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Women want to marry in their 30's when their looks decline but not in their 20's when they're at their peak attractiveness and "just want to have fun". Men who divorce and remarry are older guys. Most men get burned during divorces and lose everything so they resist marriages. We can talk about the benefits and cons of marriages endlessly, but the point remains, it's mostly women that want it, and women in their 30's too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:20 PM
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The redpill's goal is to secure sexual attraction in a woman, and it works. Has nothing to di with relationships. Also, you already know male nature since we're honest. But since women lie and virtue-signal about their nature, men need the redpill to really understand how you work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:17 PM
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Uh huh, is that why subs like r/waiting_to_wed and complaints about not getting marriage proposals are all by women? Many women only start wanting marriage when their looks decline and they want to lock in the best man that they can get before future decline. Many men caught on to this and are now anti-marriage. Like no way you're locking him down when he has just started to peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:56 PM
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When we say polygamy, we don't only mean women sleeping around with Chads. Polygamy here means that the majority of women will coalesce around the top few men, and will all compete for the attention of the few top males. 500 years ago, we didn't allow women to do stuff like this. Average Stacey was married off to Average Joe by her father. This is what I mean by monogamy, and how it was forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:51 PM
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Few women in their 20's want to get married anymore, they only start wanting marriage in their 30's when their attractiveness takes a steep decline. Ironically men are the opposite, we start off wanting marriage and then turn on the idea as we grow older. There's a mismatch in the interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:47 PM
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I agree with her, we've given women freedom and choice, and most of them have shown us that they have no interest in monogamy. It's a losing battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:39 PM
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You're correct about men being dangerous and possessive, but then again, what does this have to do with monogamy? A strong and powerful male with 5 wives can still better protect his children than a weak man with 1 wife. Also, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are terrible examples for you, doesn't Elon have kids with like 10 women? The average woman doesn't go for him because he's out of her reach. Reality is, lots of women only settle for a monogamous relationship in their 30's not out of free will, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:35 PM
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The normal profile would get 0 matches. Every woman that has tried dating as a man has failed spectacularly. How'd you meet your man, and was he your first boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:24 PM
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Yeah that lie doesn't work anymore. Grab the pic of a male model, give him a Nazi tattoo and a shitty profile, and he'll still get hundreds of matches. You all want the same few guys, it's super shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:22 PM
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The redpill only cares about what works. If many women weren't shallow then redpill advice wouldn't work and would be worthless. Rather than complaining about the red pill being misogynistic for exposing your real nature, why don't you debate its efficiacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:20 PM
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Neither of those things are exclusive to monogamy, in fact many women would coalesce around a few top wealthy males with lots of resources to ensure the best material conditions for their children. Your last sentence is what broke your comment, we really did not enforce monogamy as much before the invention of agriculture, and in hunter gatherer societes, it was very common for 1 man to have multiple wives, with females seeking out the best males of their tribes. Religion changed all of that, we…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:18 PM
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Acknowledging female nature is misogynistic? Interesting claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:10 PM
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Read your own last sentence. Then reread my comments. Your first sentence is meaningless, saying "not just" could mean anything. Your last sentence is objectively false, we enforced monogamy religiously, nearly all human societies did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:10 PM
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Yeah, uh huh, and yet it's still the same few men with hundreds or thousands of matches, and nothing but crickets for the other 80% of men. If what you said is true, the average man would get far more sexual attention since there would be at least a few women super attracted to him, but it doesn't happen. You fear being perceived as being shallow if you admit this, but men already know that you're shallow. Why don't you work on fixing this problem yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:07 PM
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Of course, there's benefits to monogamy for women too, but look at how monogamy has collapsed in the last few decades as soon as we removed all social taboos preventing polygamy. The percentage of men and women in committed relationships in their 20's keeps growing smaller every decade. Right now, less than 40% of Gen Z men are in relationships, and that number is on its way to 0%. Meanwhile a small number of Gen Z are racking up double and triple digit body counts. You were obviously trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 05:04 PM
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Lol, all those things you mentioned are implications of the red pill being true, but they're not red pill per se. Instead of being angry that the red pill is based on female nature, why aren't you angry at your own gender for being this way? For example, TRP says that women are hypergamous and that the goal is to trigger their emotional hypergamy, this can be done by appearing more confident, assertive, and sexual. Rather than being mad at that particular advice (which works by the way), why are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:57 PM
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It's not just dating apps, it's everywhere. The average woman only finds a small percentage of men to be attractive, and since women want what other women want, we end up in a negative feedback loop with a few guys having most of the female attention and the rest none.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:52 PM
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"Everyone has a different type" And yet 80% of women all fawn over the same few men. Why lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:48 PM
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How was monogamy not enforced when casual relationships and hookups were not only taboo, but even punishable by death in most human societies? A 20 year old woman a 1000 years ago couldn't sleep around and build a double digit body count like many women do today. Monogamy was enforced by society specifically to avoid the 80/20 female obsession that we see today. Women in their natural state want the most attractive men that they have access to, and sexual access often dupes them into thinking it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:46 PM
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Unsubstantiated beliefs? Those beliefs stem from direct observation of women's behavior. Is your nature so digusting to you that you insist on denying it at all costs, or is this a legitimate lack of self-awareness and you're unaware of what you do and how you're perceived? Which is it? "making up prejudiced assumption about women as a whole" Yeah, that's how dating advice works. Not all women are the same, some are ok with being cheated on and some aren't, and yet because most women don't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:31 PM
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Bruh, come on... How in hell did you get to that conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:20 PM
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There's one thing stopping them from fucking other people, it's the loss of access to that particular HVM. She can leave the harem whenever she wants, but if she does so, she doesn't have access to the man anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:00 PM
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Incels are mostly hated because they're unattractive and undesirable. This thread is a prime example of that, you're literally defending players who have traumatized and duped far more women than incels have simply because men who can sleep around are desirable and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:50 PM
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It's a harem because he doesn't let his women sleep with other men while he can still sleep with other women. This is why they tell you to not cheat but do so themselves, that's how harems work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:48 PM
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No, both undesirable and desirable men will feel attraction towards a good looking woman. The difference is that the man who slept around has already slept with women just like her, so he knows she ain't shit beyond her looks. The incel meanwhile gets nervous around her and still sees her as this being beyond what he can achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:46 PM
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Any man who has a harem of women is a high value man. He has value and women coalesce around him. "I realize this is just about jealousy" You just insulted men who have harems by saying they're not HVM, who's jealous here? I'm defending the HVM here, he's entitled to a harem of low value women, it's a common thing throughout history, so cut your complaints about him not letting you cheat while he cheats on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:43 PM
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The fact that he gets nervous around you is proof that he still puts you on a pedestal. Men who sleep around don't see you as being special enough to warrant that nervousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:39 PM
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High value males do not share their women, no matter what, especially if it's low value women. So why are you shocked that men in situationships don't want their low value women to be with other men? If the woman was a high value female, then the HVM knows he can't control her actions unless he commits to her. But the low value women? They better stay in their lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:37 PM
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Yes but incels still put women on a pedestal and would probably get nervous around you because he still idealizes you. The man who slept around will never get nervous with any woman ever again, he knows that you're just animals just like us and that he can sleep with you if he uses the right combination of words and actions to sexually arouse you. He has done it hundreds of times already. But I'm not surprised to see you focusing on the incel here. The man who sleeps around is still deemed an at…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:32 PM
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Being intimate with the same woman 1000 times has a different effect on your brain compared to sleeping with 1000 women once. Same amount of sex, but the novelty of women being special and not just females of our species fades away in the latter scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:25 PM
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Yeah, except a those studies, common sense, and basic biology. You know how doing something repeatedly that you've always dreamed of takes away the allure from it? It's the same concept at play here. Sleep with 100 women/men, and the 101st woman/man is just that, the 101st woman/man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:20 PM
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It absolutely is, it's a male thing so you wouldn't understand. Men grow up with an idealistic view of women, but women grow up with a realistic view of men. It's a big deal when a man actually sleeps around with women and finds out that they're actually the same lust-filled animals that men are. Men start sleeping around for the same reason that women do, just to "have fun", but the lessons we learn from it are far more impactful. "downplaying dehumanization" This is the difference between some…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:16 PM
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Says all men. Only virgins and incels are desperate to be chosen by a woman. Once a man has slept around with a few women, he learns to understand that women aren't all that special and that they're just like men. "So high value men DO care about the ego boost from being chosen." No they don't. Greed doesn't equate to a desire for being chosen. The men with soft harems don't want to share the multiple women that they're in a situationship with with other men. It's less about the woman's validati…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:10 PM
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Yeah, but thinking women are sexual objects and knowing women are sexual objects are two different things. The hatred incels have for women is nothing like the actual dehumanization that women go through in the eyes of a man who slept with 100 women. The man who slept around will know women aren't shit and are really just sexual conquests. The incel will still put women on a pedestal and value them more than the male thot would, seeing as he still has an idealistic view of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:03 PM
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That was real, idealistic and primal love. I don't see why you're happy that you changed unless you're happy to love your partner less than you would've otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:48 PM
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Kind of crazy how for women, an absent and abusive father is what sabotages them, and for men, a loving and caring mother is what sabotages us. Yeesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:45 PM
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Men stop caring about the ego boost they get from being chosen after the first few women they sleep with (suddenly women aren't these super picky beings anymore). Also, men whine about cheating in situationships because those are supposed to be harems where a high value man has sex with multiple low value women who are supposed to only want to be with him. Women will tolerate being in situationships with guys out of their league, so they can't be surprised when the guy refuses to commit to them …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:43 PM
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You think a man that has slept with a 100 women can ever see women in the same light that ne did before? Sleeping around damages your ability to love (pair bonding), and desensitizes you from seeing members of the opposite gender as real human beings and not just sexual objects. Women would normally get the ick from a high N count male too, but since only high value men can sleep around, it counteracts that ick. Us men feel the full brunt of a woman with a high N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:37 PM
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No they aren't, romance and intimacy aren't supposed to be for pleasure only. This is what someone with damaged pair-bonding would say. But to someone who supports hookup culture, I can see why you'd think that. Love really can't ever be the same once you've slept with over a dozen men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:31 PM
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The worst part? I don't have a specific someone that I'm upset that got away. Never met a girl that I would consider my ideal woman. It's even tougher not knowing whether your perfect woman exists or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:59 AM
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Love that lmao, use their own words against them. Although ladybird isn't one of those hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:47 AM
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Only a small percentage of men who are naturally attractive and confident can make the bluepill work. The rest of us have to take the redpill since women are not attracted to average men who practice the bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:45 AM
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Neither, the Redpill is information that takes female nature into account in order to increase a man's sexual attraction, and tne bluepill is just mainstream beliefs about women. Redpill is only concerned with what works, while the bluepill wants to be true but is mostly lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:31 AM
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A lot of bluepilled women in this thread are clowning on OP's claim by saying that sex is a deep act of love and connection, and not just something you pay for. Like ma'am, aren't you the same demographics that defends hookup culture by insisting that "it's just sex!!! Who cares if I did it casually with many different men???"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:17 AM
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Redpill people do all those things too. Actually, a lot of men claiming to be bluepilled are guys who are naturally redpilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:14 AM
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Notice I said blue pill women and not you specifically? "It's just sex!!!" is a common blue pill female response to any man that gets the ick from a woman's body count. And yet sex becomes this important act of sensual connection and love whenever we switch the subject to men soliciting sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:10 AM
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Yea, don't really got a choice in the modern era do we? Still though, it's not men going around saying that someone's sexual history shouldn't matter at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:05 AM
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Eh, blue pilled women are the first to say that sex is just a fun activity when just justifying their history of hookups and N counts ("it's just sex!!! Why do you care so much!?"). Funny how sex becomes this act of love and connection only when sex work is involved, but one night stands? Nope, all good, sleep with as many Chads as you want and move on the next day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:59 AM
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Good, now you know how men feel about high body counts in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:56 AM
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Average women expect men to tolerate their double-digit body counts and yet freak out when finding out a man paid for sex once, like really?? Kind of an insane double standard, even though both give the same ick (makes you seem less attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:56 AM
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But you get one for being a woman? Didn't have to gender that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:51 AM
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It was a hypothetical question, I knew you wouldn't answer because any answer you'd give would be laughed at for how stupid it is. Still though, was hoping you'd give the typical advice of "Come on bro, no bathroom selfie, no gym selfie, no selfie that doesn't show your entire face, make sure to list actual hobbies and passions in bio and not just pickup lines!".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:50 AM
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Calling it coercion is a bit of stretch, sex is an indicator of desire, and if there's desire, then you should show it while dating. A lot of women complain about a lack of effort by men in dating and relatiomships, but really that revolves back to the problem of a lack of desire. If he DID desire you, then he'd do all those things for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:35 AM
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OP is trolling. He's spewing nonsense so that women don't have a monopoly of that on this sub (shoutout to my girl L.O.B.). Right below OP's post there's a woman pushing an app created by a single mom demanding a deposit to date her. Looks like OP needs to go overtime to keep his crown.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:29 AM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:25 AM
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Sex is a display of desire for those men. Sure I could love her a lot and not necessarily show it, but it's still a sign of affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:52 AM
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That's not even what love bombing is. Most men that love bomb are too broke to do it with expensive gifts and trips. Most instead do stuff like saying : I've never felt this way before, I dreamt we were married, I can't wait to introduce you to my parents, here's what our future kids would look like, etc. And lovebombers only want casual sex, they don't want LTRs. THAT's modern love bombing, not the act of getting gifts to support someone's passions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:49 AM
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I consider wanting an LTR to be maturity, I've always only wanted only an LTR and was never interested in casual sex. I even turned it down too on several occasions, most often by female friends who were inviting me over after a rough breakups and some threesome proposals (another guy though..). Based on your comment, you did too. "My husband did that a bit." No offense, but I don't believe that you should have tolerated that. I want my future wife to have high standards and not to accept medioc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:44 AM
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I didn't even know the term love bombing at that time, like I said I naturally love giving gifts and do it for friends too. It wasn't love bombing, it was my proof that I really cared about that girl's dream of being an art school teacher and wanted to supported her ambitions. She was drawing with her fingers on her old shitty phone and I felt bad about it. I knew gifting something as big as that could be seen as "lovebombing"/putting pressure on her, so I never told her about it and It's very i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:24 AM
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Most rejections are. Look, I know some women feel very guilty about rejecting good men because they're not attracted to them, and I've even seen women try really hard to get past that lack of attraction at the start for a good man, but it never works. Which is it to say, biology still reigns supreme. OP is wrong not because morality trumps urges, OP is wrong because he'll lose his partner if he cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:06 AM
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I grew up very sheltered, my parents are good moral people and gave me the wrong idea about women. Some of us never got that life experience that you mentioned early on because we were taught that wanting anything other than an LTR that leads to marriage is immoral, so best stay single until financially stable and then you can date to marry. We're thrown into the 21st century and are then shocked fo find out that women are actually just like men, and that your only way to win them over is by sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:02 AM
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What's a non-boring good profile? Can you give an example? I'll bet you'll describe profiles I've seen countless times.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:37 PM
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Who said it's wrong? You said that humans aren't beholden to their biology and are capable of higher order thinking, and yet evidently this isn't true because your biology tells you to reject unattractive men and you do regardless of your "higher order" thinking telling you that the person you're rejecting is actually a good person worth considering. OP is a troll but he's right, we're all animals at the end of the day. I just find it bizarre how some women claim that humans are more than their …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:35 PM
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Why are you acting like most women don't reject good men for being physically unattractive? Evidently the "higher order thinking and morality" thing is bullshit because of how so many "Sorry I had fun but didn't feel a spark/connection" comments we get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:26 PM
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This actually happened to one of my friends, like a woman he met on an app asked him to pay her for her time for a date. This was years ago though. Ballpark percentage? Maybe 1-2%. Still enough to be believable that something like OP's post is real and isn't pure ragebait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:12 PM
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I feel you, I'm the same. I only say this stuff to men and women who complain about dating problems. If they were ok being alone, they wouldn't complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:08 PM
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Average male is simple, simply go on a dating app, sign up as a woman, and start swiping. After a few dozen or hundred swipes, you'll start getting average men. As for the ugly dudes who pull, a lot of them are actually on apps like IG hitting random women (usually have a friend in common) up in their DMs with cringey pickup lines, also on Snapchat and texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:06 PM
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There are many women who legit ask for a deposit to date them, like not even for prostitution. Unsurprised at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:59 PM
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Halo effect says otherwise. How many criminals have fan clubs?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:07 PM
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Hold on, how in hell could you possibly know that from the start? Women say that they want good kind men and that personality matters more than looks. So unless you were born a misogynist who believed that all women are liars since day 1, you'd only learn the truth about most good men being invisible through experience yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:05 PM
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I appreciate your empathy, and I also feel for your husband. In my case, I was very fortunate that I got a low 6 figure job right out of uni, so I could be even more generous with gifts than I was previously. Money wasn't the issue. I got burned every single time when it came to gifts, I'll give you a story. The very first woman I dated after graduating, we had talked through FT calls for weeks and learned so much about each other. Her dream was to quit her min wage job and go to art school, she…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:53 PM
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Yes, sex is an expression of love to me, but so are acts of service and gifts. I'm very big on giving (especially personalized) gifts, often expensive ones. I do it with my friends too. I think if I stopped doing this with my future wife, she'd probably be sad I'm not doing these things for her. She could interpret it as me loving her less. I kind of see your point now though, tbh after having been burnt in my last relationships and dates, I don't do gifts like I used to anymore. I guess that ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:35 PM
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Interesting, thank you for sharing your experience. I'm a bit biased right now, since last week I got recommended this Youtube Short of an older blonde woman in a podcast specifically saying that younger women in college should sleep around as much as possible to "get it out of their system" before settling down in their late 20's, so that they don't have any regrets. To me it looked like opportunism since it looks like older women want to remove younger women as potential rivals for the attenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:28 PM
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I feel like most women would be angry once they realize that the man is only going 50/50 with them, while with "hotter baddies" (let's say) he showered them with gifts, trips, and paid dates. This rarely happens to women because men treat their LTRs options far better than their hookups, but this is what us men feel when we're made to wait. Remember, male effort & attention are to you what sex is to us, it's the biggest proof of the opposite gender's desire for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:21 PM
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Who do you believe is pushing young women to hook up and have more casual sex? My original point was that older women are encouraging young women to do hookups to sabotage them. It removes young women as potential competition for older women for the men in their 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:16 PM
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In their 20's too? Women are going to gym more than ever, and even as per your stats, younger women are usually thinner. Any way, most fat chicks I know are actually already in loving relationships, while my most attractive female friends are mostly single. Anecdotaly to me, it looks like us men have already followed your advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:09 PM
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You can't avoid it, like I said previously, gold and youth digging are inherently biological, we all do it to a certain degree. Yes there are some people who ONLY care about youth/wealth, but it's a small percentage of people overall, not enough to tell either men not to bother getting rich, or to tell women not to date young while they're at their peak attractiveness. The advice not lead with wealth is correct, but the female equivalent would be a woman either dressing older or using less makeu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 08:02 PM
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I'm in my 20's, the overwhelmig majority of women my age are attractive to the average man. The bottom 20% of women not attractive to the average man are mostly overweight women, yes. Still though, there are more men struggling with dating than there are fat women, so even in your hypothetical situation it wouldn't fix our problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:41 PM
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It goes up if an actual relationship is your goal, but yes, the resentment from not being with your first choice will eventually build up over years or decades and make the relationship explode. Still though, is that not preferable to being ghosted after sex and being in situationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:37 PM
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Maybe it was just me, but I grew up in a strict household where morals and values were extremely important. I'm not any more mature in my late 20's than I was in my early 20's, so this talk of women in their early 20's all forcibly being immature sounds misogynistic to me since it implies women did not have the cognitive development that I had at the same age. It's not immaturity, it's culture. Young women are encouraged to go out and sleep around as much as possible without anybody telling them…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:34 PM
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I'm not talking about you specifically, I'm talking about what some women do in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 07:04 PM
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Why don't you own up to it then? You slept around when younger while fully knowing that will make men in the future get an ick from it if they're considering you for an LTR. Own up to it instead of lying and deceiving. If I know women want a rich man, then I won't waste my youth playing video games only to then fake being rich during dates to give women the wrong idea. That's a form of deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:56 PM
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Why do older bluepilled women always imply that women between 20-27 are forcibly immature? You didn't "change", the only thing that did is your attractiveness (which may be on the decline prompting the rush for an LTR). How can women who participated in hookup culture and have double digits bodycounts suddenly turn around and say "Sex is unsafe and risky", like where was that mentality in your early 20's? And why do older women still encourage younger women to "have fun", but then say this stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:52 PM
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That's fine with me, that's okay. You gotta understand that there are women who make men who want LTRs intentionally wait for sex even after determining that they're serious. They do it because they don't want the guy to think they're "easy", even though they were already easy for other men. They want to increase their perceived value by making the dude wait. Men hate that the most, not what you described. What I described is a form of virtue-signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:41 PM
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When I said men don't do it, I clearly meant that we don't do it like you do. Are you arguing semantics now? For example, I could say that men don't use mascara. Now do ALL men not use mascara? No, there's at least a few men who do use mascara, but in general, it's a woman thing. Same goes for gaslighting. A few men do it too, but most don't, while most do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:33 PM
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"Continued loneliness forces you to canibalise those skills to survive." This is the biggest and most depressing point. Women (society really) are actively rooting out these skills and behaviors in men. It becomes much worse when the average good man struggling with loneliness sees someone even uglier than him in a relationship treating women like shit but still always being with a woman. Negative feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:27 PM
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I know, your last reply was shocking, everything you said is objectively true. There's really only 2 things preventing the average man from getting into a relationship, its laziness and a strong moral code. I'm not lazy, but when you grow up being told to never treat a woman in a way that you wouldn't want your father to treat your mother, it kind of prevents you from doing those things you mentioned, like raising your voice to be more demanding which I would never accept if my dad to my mom. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:10 PM
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"I don't want to immediately sleep with a guy claiming he wants an LTR, because he needs to prove what he says he wants is actually what he wants " Okay, so men asking for an LTR have to "prove themselves", that's good, that's what I advocated that you do. Let's say that before even date 1, you were able to determine that this man actually only wants an LTR with you, would you still sleep with him before date 3? Think carefully about that. It's good to vet, but once you've vetted someone (either…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:04 PM
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No, because you said "men lie and gaslight too!", that's not something I can deny, what I did deny was the implication that it was anywhere near the level that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:56 PM
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"Why don't ugly men just treat women worse then" That's the whole point of the redpill lmao. A lot of mid/ugly men follow society's advice to be good to women and they fail at getting into relationships with women. So they look at what the successful ugly men do and try to copy them instead. This is why women utterly despise redpill, they argue it's immoral but aren't willing to admit that treating them worse is what sexually turns them on. You've given a strongly redpilled reply that is objecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:55 PM
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Okay then, so the question remains, why do you sleep with men who only want you casually on date 3, but the man who's serious about wanting to build a life with you is made to wait longer? Are you simply less attracted to the LTR option, or is something else? Why wouldn't you give sex to a potential LTR like you would to a casual? What's the logic here??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:46 PM
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Doesn't change what I said, why don't you grab the picture of an average male and try setting up a dating profile with it? The only real problem most men have is that they're not sexually attractive enough to get past the dating stage with women, it's not "lack of social skills". Only ugly men who treat women like shit can get into a relationship with women. The average male or the ugly man who'd treat a woman like a queen? He's stuck at the "Sorry, I didn't feel a spark/connection" stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:40 PM
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So why don't you do it? You had no problem sleeping with strangers very fast in the past, so why don't you do it to this particular stranger? Please explain this to me. "I want sex to be a mutual expression of love" This is a blatant lie, since you had no problems sleeping with strangers in the past as long as they were attractive enough. Why do you suddenly become more prudish when a man shows legitimate interest in you (and not just lust), even though you very well know that men love sex and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:29 PM
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Nope, the only thing men ask you to do is to not punish someone for seeking out an LTR with you. If you slept with men who only ever saw you as a sex object on the first date, then you should also do the same for men legitimately seeking out an LTR with you. Your goal is to vet who just wants to get laid, and who actually is seriously considering you as an LTR to be their future wife or mother of their children. You can do this by extending the talking stage a little bit before the first few dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:21 PM
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Nowadays the only men that can get into relationships are those men who don't do anything on Valentine Day's, based on what women are saying. The more likely a man is to better treat a woman, the less likey he can get into a relationship with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:12 PM
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Do you think the probability of a relationship succeeding goes up or down when you lower your standards? I've seen a lot of posts like this, like some women will spend most of their lives getting pumped and dumped by Chads, and then decide to lower their standards a tiny little bit (only in terms of looks, in terms of actions she'll compensate by asking for more), fail at relationships with slightly-less-attractive-than-Chads, and then advocate to going back to being pumped and dumped by Chads. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:11 PM
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Dating standards low for women? The lack of self-awareness is honestly insane. Why don't you grab a picture of an average male and set up a dating app profile with it to see how insane women's dating standards are?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:06 PM
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Perhaps, but the fact that we don't do it to the degree that women do is what inspired your post to begin with. We don't care as much about how we're perceived, so we don't lie and virtue-signal to make ourselves look better than we really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:03 PM
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It's the truth. Women are almost the same but lie and virtue-signal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:59 PM
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What you're saying still doesn't make sense, since men are biologically more attracted to youth in women, just as women are biologically more attracted to resources in a man. So men and women will ALWAYS care about these 2 things, but to different degrees. Yes there are gold and youth diggers, who ONLY seek out these 2 things, but they're quite rare. Male complaints about gold diggers are way overblown. Like I said previously, right now you're doing the equivalent of telling a man to date when h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:53 PM
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Yes, but we don't lie and gaslight like you do. When a woman rejects a man, some women will lie and claim that it was a moral failure of the man (he wasn't nice enough), and not tell the truth, which is that the woman rejected him because he wasn't physically attractive enough. I wish women were more honest like us and weren't so preoccupied with how they're perceived by men, that would end all the gaslighting and virtue-signaling overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:02 PM
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It's never happened before in history (going backwards), but trust me, when it happens (hopefully it doesn't), you'll know without anyone telling you about it. Also, there's no "revenge" fanfic here. Nobody is taking revenge for anything, unless you think something like the French Revolution was a "revenge" and not social change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:58 PM
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Yes it does. You have a problem with how crudely we present ourselves, and you're asking us to be more sympathetic (or at least diplomatic) towards your woes. The problem is, Y'ALL DO THE SAME THING. Has a man ever complained about being rejected by women and gotten a sympathetic response to it by women? Hell no, it's either the truth (date in your own league), or gaslighting (you weren't nice enough to her!) from women. Men just give the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:53 PM
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But that's what your original post implies, you gave the standard response men give to women who complain about being pumped and dumped by Chads, or are kept in situationships, and then implied that this was mean to women. And yet if a man was to ever complain about a woman rejecting him or keeping him in the friendzone (because she has options), women would tell that man the same thing you said in your original post. (Aka "date in your league") Why do you expecy sympathy for rejected women when…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:48 PM
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Don't you think that it's sexist for you to feel entitled to be chosen by a man with options, when you'd never make the statement for men who don't get valued by women with options? Both the majority of women AND men don't get chosen or valued by members of the opposite gender who have options. The only difference is that while a woman will just reject you or keep you in the friendzone, the Chad will keep you around for sex and fun in a situationship. Somehow, many of y'all still think it's okay…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:40 PM
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Whether that's true or not, I'm glad to agree that we should do away with marriages now. Terrible idea all around in the modern world. "More women are seeing marriage for the trap it is" Cool story, can they hop on r/Waiting_to_wed and let all the other women know the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:36 PM
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Tell women to date young to avoid "youth diggers"? Again, you're not making any sense, how can a man tell you to date young to avoid people looking to date young?? By the time a woman is too old, the man is also too old and can't get younger women anymore, so it's still advantageous for her to leverage her peak of attractiveness (her young age) to get the highest value man that she can get. Also, all relationships are inherently transactional, especially for men. There aren't any men loved for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:31 PM
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We know most women want to eventually get married. You could’ve had a man that gave you that wedding so many women dream of if you actually bothered locking him down while you were at your peak attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:41 PM
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Yeah, the men at the top will try to discipline the males that are lashing out. Except that the 20% will understand that the 80% far outnumber them and will massacre them. A lot of male elites will go through what Russian nobility suffered in the October revolution. History will repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:39 PM
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Agreed, it’s exactly like that. The child instinctually throws a tantrum, it’s natural for him to do so without thinking about it. Men who can’t reproduce are the same. It has nothing to do with asking for privilege back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:32 PM
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You’re struggling to understand basic words, where did I ever say that money was leverage for you? Many women are struggling with dating in their 30’s specifically because they have little leverage anymore. They demand desirable men while those same men prefer to have younger women. Also, why is hookup culture your only idea of “fun”? What’s so fun about sleeping with strangers and having constant one night stands? It looks like you made a bad choice and you’re trying to trick other women into m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:29 PM
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The “wanting fun” is what makes them not ready or suitable to settle down with. OP is specifically saying to use your youth as leverage when you still can before losing it. A 30 year old woman is nowhere nearly as desired as a 21 year old one is, and yet the 30 year old woman will make demands that only a 21 year old woman can actually get. Youth is to women what money is to men, it’s leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:17 PM
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When an elephant during musth starts murdering other males and females of his species, is he “asking for his privilege and entitlement” back? Lots of males in mammal species become violent when they can’t reproduce, it’s natural. The average male fought in wars and broke his back farming the land, he was never given an average female for free or out of kindness, it was earned. You can argue that average men don’t deserve an average woman anymore because most don’t go to war anymore or farm the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:01 PM
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Statistically speaking, we’re both average. A high value woman could be a model, and a high value male could be a millionaire. Neither of these are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:53 PM
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What? Who tells men to get rich to avoid gold-diggers? Rich men are specifically sought out by gold diggers. Also, you’re lying. Women don’t love men for who they are, but for what we can provide for them. Same for men, we love women for what they can provide to us (including youth). Women specifically tell other women not to date broke men and to only aim for men who are already successful. Men telling women to get married while young use the same logic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:50 PM
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The opposite of the Halo effect is equally true. If a man being more attractive makes women more sympathetic towards him, than a man being unattractive makes women become even more critical and disgusted towards him. Women will lie and virtue-signal about not judging men based on their looks, but they do. If a woman sees you complaining about anything dating-related online, or even offline, then she'll think that you're unattractive and that will make her less likely to sympathize with you. Dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:57 AM
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Reddit is filled with both low value males and low value females, expecting either to sympathize with the other isn't going to work at all. The average woman on this sub is probably a millennial woman in her 30's with a bodycount so large that it would make most men's stomach turn. The average man on this sub is probably a zoomer male with a bodycount so small that it would give most women a sever ick. Both are garbage to each other even though the average man would still be willing to sleep wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:49 AM
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It is true that in a majority of cases, if a daughter resisted very harshly, her father would not give her away to another man asking for her hand in marriage. Many women willingly entered into marriages because they relied on husbands for protection and for them to provide, they couldn't feed their children otherwise. But at the same time, it was men who took away women's economic opportunities, and made them feel the need to seek out protection, so it still feels like we forced average women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:44 AM
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OP going to "the solution is to treat women like objects" is insane. Why is this what you assumed OP meant? Why did you not assume the opposite, rather that women should stop objectifying men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:10 AM
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They hate non-traditional women who want men to behave in a traditional way, It's not weird at all, imagine if a man was demanding that you pay 50% of all bills, while simultaneously asking you to be the main provider, to cook, to clean, and to do all the chores. You'd be disgusted by him. This is why so many women lose their minds when asked the "What do you bring to the table" question, they legitimately offer NOTHING to men, at all. Zero benefits beyond access to their vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:04 AM
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This is where the root of most of men's hate against women in dating comes from. The majority of women in dating now all claim to be progressive, but they're only progressive when it comes to female gender roles, and they're very traditional when it comes to male gender roles. An actual progressive woman who wants to do 50/50 and is equally involved in planning dates is extremely rare, and extremely desirable to men. Just as a fully traditional woman (who wants to be submissive and feminine) als…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:55 AM
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You're both right. Technically, you don't owe low status males any sympathy, but it's in your interest to show them some anyway. Just as it's natural for you (assuming that you're an average woman) to want a top 20% man, it's also natural for an average male to become violent and lash out at society for being unable to reproduce. Both these things are observed in nature. A small amount of sympathy can go a long away towards preventing the worst-case scenario here for you (society reverting to fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:48 AM
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Yeah, like that. There's probably lots of relationships that only exist because women in their 30's felt heavily pressured by their family, friends, or society to be in a relationship, and wouldn't have existed without that pressure. Those relationships all include women that are extremely resentful because they had to settle for a man who was not their first choice, since it was either that or being judged for being single in their 30's.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:30 AM
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Bots? Seriously? This is a common viewpoint, and I'm glad OP posted that video because I bet y'all would be on his case about making a statement without backing it up. But I guess there's nothing to argue here, your two choices are to either deny that this happens (i.e. saying it's bots) or to admit that a large percentage of women are hypocritical in how they objectify men but get angry when men objectify them. You did the former. take it to conservative people 🤷‍♀️ The majority of women who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:17 AM
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I argue that lost opportunity isn't even the biggest factor. In most mammal species (even in ones where pregnancies are much shorter), females will intentionally seek out the best genes for their offspring. There's no point for a female to reproduce with a low-value male, even if there aren't any high-value males around. Reproducing with men with undesirable traits legitimately hurts the species, and so women instinctively avoid it. Women being 80/20 really is just evolutionary biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:12 AM
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How many real progressive women exist? The vast majority of women will still be disgusted by a man that asks to go 50/50, all while simultaneously getting angry if a man asks her to behave like a traditional woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:04 AM
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And men are objectified by women more than other men, so what's your point? Nowadays very few men are telling other men to be "providers" or traditional men, that's something women are demanding (while simultaneously screaming that it's sexism to expect a woman to be traditional).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:03 AM
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OP's post is about women in the comments saying the guy is hot for being a glorified handler, what does the post being ragebait have to do with his point? Way to deflect from the point he was making, since you know some women's standards are hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:00 AM
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Even with your edits it's still wrong, it's the same exact arousal that men go through. I'm telling you, I have female friends so I know it all. I've literally had female friends CELEBRATE seeing a picture of someone they had a crush on in a bad angle because it "freed them from the curse" (since they knew the man was but they were attracted to him). It has nothing to do with the desire for a masculine, affectionate relationship. Booktok shows how women fantasize about being ravaged by attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:56 AM
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Yeah but women get extra creative with their sexualization and even make literature out of it, although admittedly the worst I've ever seen was for fictional male characters (both in anime and movie characters), but still it was pretty raunchy in general. "For women, it's more aesthetic" What a load of shit, no it isn't. Sexualization is sexualization, once you look at someone and describe them like they're a sexual object, then you've sexualized them. There's no such thing as "aesthetic" when a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:48 AM
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but there's something off-putting about her that becomes clear once you get to know her. Curious, why do you think that is? The only real blocker to men seems to be weight, most men are extremely turned off by fat women. Is she fat? If not, it's hard to see why she can't get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:37 AM
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Lol what, that's a blatant lie and you know it. Go on the TikTok accounts of lots of attractive men and you'll see women sexualizing them in a way that puts most men outside of 4chan to shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:34 AM
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Wholeheartedly? No, but a lot of men are lonely enough to accept a fat single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:32 AM
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There's a good historical, sociological, and anthropological answer to OP's question, and it has nothing to do with "women forgoing men" (or what you really meant, women forgoing average men). Before the advent of agriculture, women weren't oppressed like they've been in the last few thousands of years. Women in hunter-gatherer societies held a bit more freedom than they later would, but could just as easily be killed or raped without any repercussion. Fact is, back then, many females would coal…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:26 AM
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There's a good historical, sociological, and anthropological answer to your question. Before the advent of agriculture, women weren't oppressed like they've been in the last few thousands of years. Women in hunter-gatherer societies held a bit more freedom than they later would, but could just as easily be killed or raped without any repercussion. Fact is, back then, many females would coalesce around the few top males, and most male hunter-gatherers never got to reproduce because of it. The top…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:24 AM
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What do you mean by ex? The guy she let have sex with her on the first date probably just pumped and dumped her. OP is comparing how women behave with men they hookup up versus the ones thet seek out LTRs with. Sex is a perfect measuring tool for a woman's attractiveness to a man, in the same way that attention & effort are a measuring tool to determine a man's attraction to a woman. The more a man is attracted to a woman, the more he'll spoil her. women whine about men not doing enough things f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:18 PM
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It's not a moral failing, it's biology. Sexual selection happens in most mammal species, where females seek out males with the best genes for their offspring. It's perfectly natural. The reason such a big deal is made out of it is because women lie about not being this way and virtue-signal about how this would make them shallow. Most women mindlessly obey their biology (as do men), but refuse to admit it and lie about being different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:12 PM
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