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6

If I could find a secret location where tons of single women wander around on their own waiting to be approached then maybe I'd have some skills by now. College.
/r/seduction28/07/15 06:36 PM
1

He IS in a leadership position... And he's acting all leader-y... Yeah... Is there actually some confusion here? Yes, the confusion is how to the handle the situation appropriately. Going in there all "alpha" and puffing up my chest is not the solution, its not good leadership or being a true alpha. If you were okay with him stepping up, you should have stepped up. I know that now.
/r/askTRP21/07/15 03:31 PM
3

When you feel like it. I don't do it on social media and I only keep extremely controversial opinions to myself at work because that could come back and bite you in the ass. If it's just a casual conversation outside of work then state your opinion when you want, regardless if people don't like it. If they don't like it, sucks for them.
/r/askTRP21/07/15 05:32 AM
1

No, we are both in the lowest part of the totem pole. Yes, but they allow him to take charge. When they want to take control back, he will give it to them without any grief. ...I believe it could be done, yes. At the same time, if I tell him not to tell me what to do, but do it to him, then I'm a hypocrite. We lead based on experience. We have many people that are new, and we also have some that know what they are doing but don't give a fuck about taking charge or who is taking charge. I believe…
/r/askTRP21/07/15 01:19 AM
2

Very true. I forgot about that possibility. If it were me though I still would just move on and pursue other women.
/r/seduction19/07/15 02:23 PM
4

The only thing you really did wrong here was say "OK" to being friends with her. Never do that. You want to be intimate with her, not be her friend. It was a shit test. Still, this was a victory. You approached and got a number, which is more important than focusing on the one thing you messed up. You completed your goal.
/r/seduction19/07/15 04:31 AM
5

No, you did fine. Personally I would have let her go after the second one, but that's me. She doesn't respect your time and isn't interested. Next her.
/r/askTRP18/07/15 12:44 AM
-1

After reading your previous comment in this thread, and now this one, you're awfully insecure. Maybe you should focus on that instead of his grammar and punctuation.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/15 10:04 AM
7

Joe is RP as fuck. Total master of frame. Considering the video at hand, I got the impression that he lost frame because he got really angry over it. I understand that we should show our anger when it serves a purpose, but to me it looked as if she was getting under his skin. If this is a case where he didn't lose frame, then why is that?
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 07:16 PM
6

Use your energy for better stuff. I'm genuinely curious what you consider "better stuff". Why don't you think working on your social skills is a valuable use of your time?
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 06:27 PM
2

You can organize it in multiple ways. You can do push movements (bench press, leg press, squat, etc.) two days a week and pull movements (Rows, hamstring curl, etc.) two days a week. You could do chest and triceps one day, back and biceps another day, legs another, and do core all three days. Cardio is very important. The Red Pill is focused more on building muscle mass and strength to achieve more of the "man" look and ultimately attract more women. Cardio, while extremely important, will make …
/r/askTRP05/07/15 03:53 AM
5

"Oh I get it, the woman is pregnant and the man has his head in his hands indicating that he is not happy about it. Hardy har har". (Because "jokes" like this have been beaten to death). If you really got banned for saying the above, then I am pretty speechless. It makes me wonder how people that are offended by something of this caliber are able to make it out in the real world.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/15 03:51 AM
1

Good post. If this guy doesn't question what he is doing after this, I'm not sure anything will. It took a whole hell of a lot less for me to find the red pill. Pretty brutal.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/15 09:00 PM
2

Really? Because in your very first post you said: I don't know what I expected when I came here.
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 04:25 PM
53

Time to plate her up If she's not too much trouble. No, OP is in a delicate place right now due to this chick. If he plates her, it will likely be difficult for him to resist getting back in a relationship with her because of feelings and oneitis. If he is already over her, has other plates, and has fully adopted the red pill mindset, that's one thing. However, it sounds like this will take a while for him to recover from and to fully grasp the principles. Find other women. Do not ever contact h…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 04:21 PM
4

I guarantee you you will be back whenever you try to game a woman again and it doesn't work. You're already here for a reason...
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 03:14 PM
0

I was replying to /u/wiseclockcounter. When I said "This guy..." I was describing what an AFC is, I wasn't referring to one particular user. Edit: I edited my previous post to make it clearer.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/15 09:32 PM
6

This right here. A summary or paper based on science needs to have credible sources to support their claims. Otherwise, you're just making claims, even if they may have some truth to them.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/15 07:16 PM
9

It should be in there. It stands for Average Frustrated Chump. AFC's are a joke. They hate on guys that are good at getting women or anyone that is better than them at something when they could spend that energy trying to better themselves. In the "hating on guys who get women" example, they'll call the successful guys douche bags or assholes. Edit: Just checked it. It's not in there.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/15 07:02 PM
2

Don't ask for a number, tell her to give it to you. It comes across as assertive and dominant. Also, you can't just straight up walk over to them and get their number ( and get it consistently). You have to make some sort of conversation opener. Pick something about how they look or what they are wearing. If you don't want to come across as too invested and be direct, then say something along the lines of "Excuse me, I saw you and I think you're cute. What's your name?..." Good work on having so…
/r/seduction17/06/15 09:41 PM
2

Good post. This is a really good measuring tool to see where we stand in this regard. Being "alpha" or "beta" is a spectrum, and is not black and white like many think ("Oh I did this, I must be a beta."). If you do one of these you are not by definition an "alpha" or "beta", if you have a lot of these qualities that lie on one side of the spectrum, then you can call yourself an " alpha" or "beta".
/r/TheRedPill17/06/15 11:40 AM
1

Alphas are direct, assertive, and even aggressive-when they need to be. They do this when setting boundaries as to how they like to be treated when someone attempts to "step on them" and when voicing their intentions. Being passive aggressive is cowardice, if you want to sum it up in a word. An example would be if someone asked you to do something you didn't want to do, say yes, but not do it. An alpha male would just tell them no. Another one would be talking shit behind their back (most people…
/r/askTRP14/06/15 03:51 PM
2

Ha fucking awesome. Keep it up.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/15 03:48 PM
1

I remember you posting in it. Thank you both for the thorough replies. Send me a link to the thread you made.
/r/askTRP13/06/15 02:51 AM
2

I will respond to this. I'm at work so I can't formulate a thorough reply right now. I will edit this post. Edit: Alright, while Remy Price is correct to a certain extent, generally people are an ass in the anger phase because they do not know how to use it. The emotion is foreign to them, they just let it run wild for the first time during this phase. However, Quotidian is more correct, you want the anger to help you meet a goal. When you feel angry, ask yourself "Is it just?" and more importan…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 04:53 PM
3

I have always been told to submit. Hold your emotions in. Don't take charge. DONT BE A MAN. Be very careful with this. When I first started I told myself the same thing and went too far with it (being aggressive to an extreme and taking no direction from anyone). Its good that you want to do this, but tread lightly. You can still take charge and not submit while not being a complete ass. Good luck.
/r/TheRedPill11/06/15 07:02 AM
1

Coming from a guy whose name is AssViolator.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/15 08:16 PM
1

Do not let her touch them. She may poke a hole in it, if she really does want you to get her pregnant. If you forget one and she offers one to you, turn it down and leave immediately. Edit: The fact that this is a possibility would deter me from interacting with her on any level and find a different girl. It isn't worth the risk.
/r/askTRP07/06/15 06:37 PM
3

Go to r/sex and look at their sidebar. They have a good FAQ on the subject.
/r/askTRP07/06/15 02:58 PM
1

I second this. I am in the same boat as OP, and it would save a lot of people time answering these sort of questions if it was just in sidebar. This is a subreddit built on the foundation of becoming a better man, and this subject is clearly a critical part in that. Hell, even having a link to one in the sidebar that is on a different site could work.
/r/askTRP07/06/15 02:36 PM
1

Just schedule a date. Don't have a text conversation, just set the day, time, and event and leave it at that. If she flakes and has a good reason, give her a second shot. If she flakes again, doesn't have a good excuse, or doesn't have a good excuse and does not attempt to reschedule, then drop her and find other girls. Good luck.
/r/seduction07/06/15 12:29 PM
5

Being assertive and dominant. I take pride in having both of those traits, but when I am around someone that is more dominant or assertive (or both) then my confidence drops a good amount. Like you, however, I can pull off acting confident when I'm really not, which helps bring me back out of it.
/r/seduction06/06/15 01:32 AM
2

At least you're being polite now. I said he was rude because he demanded information in such a way that he's probably not going to get it. Would you respond to that? If I had the sources I wouldn't. What defines rude is whether or not it's a way of asking that's likely to get you what you want from your perspective from someone with something you want and capable of protecting it. I might have been rude to him, but at least I tried to be polite. There is more chance that I will get his sources t…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/15 06:50 PM
1

I'm not at all perturbed. I mean that from his perspective, if that is correct knowledge, you are a punk. I know enough to know it might be, and you're trying to tell someone else what is and isn't rude. You don't decide what's rude unless you're in charge. Are you in charge? I certainly don't feel it in this context. People want to know if that is true or false, and he decides whether that information is revealed. The other guy didn't even say please. If he doesn't provide a source, then why sh…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/15 06:08 PM
1

Why exactly should you do that? Source on that being correct game theory behavior in sexual strategy? See what I mean punk. It's rude. I don't quite understand what you're getting at. Elaborate. Punk? You're really going to start name calling now? How can you say that requesting a source is rude and then start name calling? Is that not rude in itself? How about calming down so we can have a discussion like adults.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/15 05:23 PM
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Requesting a source isn't rude. If you volunteer scientific information that isn't common knowledge, then you should provide a source. If anything, the guy he is requesting the source from is being rude because he is insulting his ability to form correct grammar and punctuation for a meaningless capitalization error.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/15 04:05 PM
1

You are right, in a sense. My main point was that the graphic OP created was to be applied for everyone, hence the "for the average person" comment. So for the sake of saving space in the graphic, saying three days a week is fine. As far as four to five days a week being better than three, that's debatable. What type of workouts are they doing? Muscular endurance? Strength? Power? Just cardio? Those are critical questions to ask when determining the frequency of your workouts. Depending on the t…
/r/seduction13/05/15 03:05 PM
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Three is enough for the average person. Two days minimum is needed to maintain strength. Source: Exercise science major.
/r/seduction13/05/15 01:21 AM
1

In the event that this isn't fake, you crossed the line, and that is putting it extremely generously. All you have to say is "Excuse me, but I am next in line." That's it. If he was just talking to him, then let him talk. You weren't the "alpha", you were the douche.
/r/seduction10/05/15 02:11 AM
2

"The Definitive Book of Body Language".
/r/seduction09/05/15 03:16 AM
2

I can't answer the first part of your question but I can answer the second. Holding eye contact and smiling are the biggest indicators that she is interested. If you see those two you're definitely in. I have a body language book that I will link to you if I can find it. Its very informative on this sort of topic. Edit: Found the link but its messed up. The book you should get is "The Definitive Book of Body Language".
/r/seduction07/05/15 03:23 PM
2

Thanks a bunch dude.
/r/seduction05/05/15 09:23 PM
5

Thanks for doing the AMA. I have a question about approaching. Every time I see a hot girl, I keep thinking to myself that she knows my intent the moment I approach her, and it ends up psyching me out. I feel like she is thinking "sigh here we go" and it messes me up. Do most girls think this when being approached? Do they typically get hit on a lot, or no (I've heard both)? Does what they think really matter? Thanks.
/r/seduction05/05/15 07:34 PM
1

I was referring to the top portion of your original post, as in no it would not be over dramatic if you just walked off.
/r/seduction04/05/15 11:29 AM
3

No; it would be a very cold day in hell before I would believe that I need to convince a woman that I am worthy to go out with her.
/r/seduction04/05/15 01:03 AM
1

How does one do this? Do you just go by a certain demographic (bars or clubs for example)?
/r/seduction28/04/15 12:14 AM
1

There is one in the sidebar that is pretty good.
/r/seduction23/04/15 12:36 PM
1

Escalation. If you are not wanting anything serious, then start touching and being very physical from the start. Touch the small of her back when walking, caress her leg while driving, etc.. She'll know you're intent, but if she asks just be honest about it.
/r/seduction20/04/15 12:20 PM
1

This is a very crucial point, OP. You may very well have good intentions and be honest about who you are, but some people will not like you or your intentions, and that's fine. As long as you are not maliciously going after people, you will be fine. The important thing to accept is you're going to be seen as a prick by somebody.
/r/seduction20/04/15 12:14 PM
3

You need to meet new people, even if it is just friends to hang out with. Find hobbies, if you have some work on them. It will distract you from her. Also, others have said getting laid helps.
/r/seduction19/04/15 07:10 PM
1

Good read. Thanks for posting.
/r/seduction19/04/15 02:41 PM
2

While puking.
/r/seduction18/04/15 07:18 PM
2

I remember watching that video. He handles that dude's attitude with great skill and does so very calmly (which is the most difficult part). Very informative on how to handle assholes like that.
/r/seduction18/04/15 05:07 PM
2

This is what I was looking for. Thank you.
/r/seduction13/04/15 07:25 PM
1

I was referring to the fear of being controlled yourself. This is my biggest issue, are you an alpha even if you are being controlled? I would think that's being a beta...
/r/seduction13/04/15 01:59 PM
1

Oh I know about the fear part (all too well), it's a bit easier said than done. That being said, the part about being controlled is the hardest to deal with. How do you remain an alpha, but not be afraid to lose control?
/r/seduction13/04/15 04:10 AM
6

This point is critical. There are many variables that come into play (vocal tone and body language) that could make you appear as an asshole, even when you don't mean to be.
/r/seduction12/04/15 08:45 PM
55

This is something I have struggled with, and still continue to do so. When I first started this I went into the completely other side of the spectrum. I became very aggressive and threatening to everyone. Although it felt good and I was respected, I don't think I had much of an influence. Thanks for posting this, because I think that its a common issue that should be discussed more than it is. It really is a hard balance to achieve.
/r/seduction12/04/15 05:54 PM
3

And yet you're here too. I guess we are all fatasses with a pornstar addiction.
/r/seduction12/04/15 03:21 AM
2

There we go. As far as going after women goes, I wouldn't do that right now. I would put all of my focus and attention on myself. You're on the right track by reading No More Mr. Nice Guy, however you should also work on adopting a more confident mindset (by being assertive, voicing your opinions, doing things for yourself, going to the gym, finding new hobbies, etc,). As someone else mentioned, being the "teddy bear" is not sexy or attractive. Try to be less of a friend and more of a potential …
/r/seduction11/04/15 02:08 PM
1

You're going to have to be specific. What behaviors and mannerisms do you possibly have/do that may make others see you this way? How do you dress or look? Do people say why you give off this vibe? How does your vocal tone sound?
/r/seduction11/04/15 06:09 AM
1

I get that you really want to approach this girl, but the gym is not the best place to approach women. If you really want to, do it after the workout. That being said, don't think, just act. Also know that women like it when they are approached and that what you say is not a huge concern, because approaching is the goal. Lastly, you are not going to die. She is most likely going to be polite to you (unless you're a douchebag to her). Post an FR tomorrow.
/r/seduction09/04/15 10:19 PM
1

I would drop her. There are plenty of other women out there.
/r/seduction09/04/15 08:58 PM
3

If she can't date until two weeks from now I would drop her and move on. It is much more time efficient and better overall for you to just find someone else. Out of curiosity, why two weeks?
/r/seduction09/04/15 06:18 AM
8

Just reread it. You are correct. Thanks.
/r/seduction07/04/15 12:46 AM
4

Good work. I agree with everything except asking them what they want to do. You're the man, you're supposed to lead and decide where you and her go. Other than that, congratulations on your success.
/r/seduction06/04/15 08:56 PM
3

I remember reading your post. Good work.
/r/seduction02/04/15 06:11 PM
4

Never mind the fact that I sounded like a bumbling idiot and don't actually remember what she said her name was (I think it started with a K?). Its important to remember this. What happened during the approach is not as important, the fact that you approached is. Congratulations.
/r/seduction01/04/15 07:48 PM
1

Thanks, I've been reading this stuff for a couple of years. The community has helped me out greatly.
/r/seduction01/04/15 06:57 PM
8

If you are having trouble making eye contact with women, that should be your first step. Do things in baby steps. For example, start making eye contact for a week. Next week, add a smile. After that, start doing both of those and say hello, etc. Women are people too, they like social interaction. As far as books go, read "Models" by Mark Manson. It is an excellent book and really puts things in perspective. However, it is important to not become too absorbed in reading about seduction and not do…
/r/seduction01/04/15 05:16 PM
1

"Models" by Mark Manson. That being said, reading about this stuff helps a lot, but going out there and doing it will help you more.
/r/seduction27/03/15 09:24 PM
5

You forgot that you have to pee on them, to assert dominance.
/r/seduction25/03/15 03:50 PM
2

I disagree, but to the each their own. Edit: To elaborate, yes, alphas don't have to gloat. However, in this context, it would have gotten under this asshole's skin, which is exactly what he deserved.
/r/seduction23/03/15 09:22 PM
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I can't stand people like that. I wish you would have rubbed that in his face, but that would have likely escalated to a fight. Good move.
/r/seduction22/03/15 08:32 PM
5

Mark Manson's book "Models" covers this. Mens attractiveness to the opposite sex is based on their behavior (confidence, for example). This is why your friend can do so well while the guys at the bar dangling their keys trying to get women can't. They know that they are compensating their wealth for their lack of confidence. To sum it up: your friend has the right attitude and demonstrates confidence (behavioral traits) around women, making him attractive and appealing to them. As others have sa…
/r/seduction22/03/15 01:21 AM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/redpillbooks/comments/237wz6/sperm_wars_and_no_more_mr_nice_guy_pdfs/?sort=confidence The link above is a free PDF of the book. To everyone who suffers from "Nice Guy Syndrome": read it. It is definitely worth it and will really put things in perspective.
/r/seduction20/03/15 03:55 AM
2

This right here. I was also confused as to whether or not OP was referring to a bar or a dinner date.
/r/seduction17/03/15 05:02 AM
1

The approach alone is a victory, regardless of how the interaction goes (and you did fine in the interaction) and whether or not you get a number. Good work.
/r/seduction15/03/15 04:39 AM
1

This was my impression after reading through it. I also wouldn't have re-approached simply because of her shitty attitude, she sounds like someone I don't want to be around regardless of how hot she is. But you got the date so congrats.
/r/seduction15/03/15 04:30 AM
34

It sounds like her friend said something to her while they were in the bathroom, fucking your evening up.
/r/seduction14/03/15 07:09 PM
3

That's a shame, because they are actually good books.
/r/seduction14/03/15 04:51 PM
4

Working out. It won't necessarily help you with women directly (although it helps with confidence), you should do it for your health. Its great that you accept yourself, but again, do it for your health. Edit: Forgot a comma.
/r/seduction13/03/15 09:12 PM
8

Why not both?
/r/seduction13/03/15 08:41 PM
0

I disagree with this. I think he handled it fine. The only thing I see wrong with the interaction is the "Ha, ok" comes across as slightly smug, that's it.
/r/seduction12/03/15 12:03 AM
1

You also.
/r/seduction09/03/15 12:54 AM
1

To build upon this, your girlfriend is into the guy who seduced her, not the guy who gets complacent once in a relationship. So keep doing it and you will be fine.
/r/seduction08/03/15 08:25 PM
3

Thanks.
/r/seduction08/03/15 08:20 PM
1

For me, the beginning step is the hardest part with anything. Once I build some momentum, then I become more driven to succeed and finish what I started.
/r/seduction08/03/15 08:17 PM
3

Personally I would have left, but at least you learned something from it so your time wasn't completely wasted.
/r/seduction08/03/15 02:15 AM
34

Well done, especially dealing with the AA. Do another FR after the concert.
/r/seduction07/03/15 06:56 PM
1

Chances are you are done for the day, but I am going to post anyway. I did the same thing and was in the exact same situation. Just as I was about to leave, I had seen this really hot girl that I was getting ready to pass. I did it, I said "Hey" and told her I thought she was cute and ended up getting a number in less than a minute (could have been fake but I didn't give a shit. That wasn't my real goal). It was tough, and awkward, but after that very brief conversation I had the biggest damn gr…
/r/seduction05/03/15 12:46 AM
1

Proofread your post, then make the necessary corrections. Then we can help you.
/r/seduction28/02/15 02:21 AM
2

I've noticed that Seddit is pretty divided on how to deal with the "I have a boyfriend" line. Normally I would agree with this and do it but it could very well be a shit test. I think that some of the witty comments listed below could actually work and pass the "test". However, your response isn't necessarily wrong either if she actually does have a boyfriend. Anyone have any thoughts?
/r/seduction27/02/15 01:54 PM
19

I disagree with this one. How do you know she deserves it? This is the first conversation you have had with her, she could be a bitch for all you know.
/r/seduction27/02/15 01:26 PM
2

Excellent post. It really puts a different view on things, especially approach anxiety. That part that struck me the most was the "bonus" part. It puts things at ease. If she texts back or goes on a date with you, consider it a bonus, if not, say "oh well" and move on. Edit: Spelling errors.
/r/seduction23/02/15 08:17 PM
1

Would you rather not make the move and regret it? You have absolutely nothing to lose. If she isn't interested, then there are boat loads of other women to choose from (which, you may not think so now, is a viable option). She may be glad you took the initiative to speak to her. Edit: Spelling error.
/r/seduction19/02/15 11:44 PM
1

Just signed up, thank you.
/r/seduction15/02/15 04:52 AM
2

As someone who has struggled with this before, thank you. This post brings some clarity to that particular shit test.
/r/seduction07/02/15 12:29 AM
1

I second this. I have the book and it is an excellent read and a valuable resource.
/r/seduction03/02/15 04:04 AM
3

This right here. Is it possible they will be a little hurt by it? Yes, but that is why you can do it with class (although I think just getting back in your car is acceptable as well, considering her deception). I'm not going on a date with someone that knowingly deceives me in the very damn beginning.
/r/seduction02/02/15 09:24 PM
7

Yeah, but they deceived him by putting up pictures that are not an accurate representation of what they look like. Had the tables been turned, they wouldn't like it either. They deserve it.
/r/seduction02/02/15 06:49 AM
1

Stop talking to her and ditch your friend. They are not worth your time if they pull that kind of shit.
/r/seduction23/01/15 05:06 PM
1

I'm genuinely curious, why do you have this mentality?
/r/seduction23/01/15 04:53 PM
1

While you are right, evolution favors cowards, if you think it is ok to go out and fuck another man's wife then fuck you. I get it, meeting any woman can potentially lead to sex but that is a really shitty thing to do, and even shittier to let the man raise YOUR kid. There are plenty of other women out there that are single.
/r/seduction04/11/14 04:19 PM
1

Do not pursue her again. You are no ones back up. Find someone better.
/r/seduction31/10/14 03:31 AM
3

I don't know why you are being down voted. Everything you stated was the truth, with the exception that assertiveness may come more naturally to some, making it easier for them.
/r/seduction08/09/14 11:44 PM
2

Don't do it. It's a shitty thing to do and there are millions of single women out there that can be picked up. Find a different one.
/r/seduction05/08/14 06:38 AM
1

Power pose, fake it till you make it, improve yourself ect This right here, specifically the power pose. You'll be amazed how you much better you will feel about yourself when you demonstrate powerful body language (standing up straight and having your chest stand out for example). I had a co-worker the other day make a comment stating that I walked confidently, so people do notice.
/r/seduction10/07/14 03:08 AM
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To sum it up: speaking your mind. Saying your opinion without caring if others approve or disapprove. It also means setting your own boundaries of what you will and will not do. So if someone asks you to do something and it is unreasonable, tell them no. Do not care if someone thinks if you're a dick. Those are your boundaries and if they don't like it, then tough. However, make your boundaries reasonable, which is something you will have to judge on your own.
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