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| 10 | What do you think of the Washington Post Op-Ed: "Why can't we hate men?"Why should conservatives care about how you feel then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 02:20 PM |
| 5 | What do you think of the Washington Post Op-Ed: "Why can't we hate men?"I don't see how that's a good point. Eliminating differences in structural power should be the end to a means, not an end in itself. What's the evidence that giving women equal "institutional power" will inherently make the world a better place? If you want "fairness" and equal opportunity, you should explicitly pursue that. Unless you believe in blank slatism, there's no reason to think equal opportunity results in equal institutional power between the genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 02:05 PM |
| – | What do you think of the Washington Post Op-Ed: "Why can't we hate men?"I don't think it's like a black slave saying "I hate white people". No one seriously believes the treatment women face today is comparable to the treatment slaves faced. This situation is like a black person right now who's a sociology professor and director of African American studies at a major university writing an Op Ed titled "Why can't we hate white people?" I'd argue that would evoke similar reactions too. Though I will say, the historical oppression black people have faced in the US is m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Thanks for actually answering the question using behavioral examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Yes, my gender. You and that woman also have your gender in common. As a man, being self aware means I'm aware of both the ways in which men are superior to women and the ways in which men are inferior to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:23 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Well I don't know what to say other than you're not living in reality. "Women talk, men actually solve the problem" is a (well justified) stereotype as old as time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Self awareness involves not only being aware of your individual flaws but also the flaws of the groups whose identities make up a part of your personal identity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?That's not a behavioral inferiority. Arguably a biological one, but it's totally tangential to behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:12 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?It's not about "whether they made a good list". It's "did they even read my question properly and answer it". Again, the woman I mentioned had an answer that I don't think is good, but she at least answers the question. I'm not going to be arguing with answers that don't even answer the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Yes, but again it's mainly women doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:07 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Because she didn't answer my question. For the one woman who did answer my question, I accepted her response despite not thinking those were the strongest examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?There are no specific answers I'm looking for other than examples actually belonging to the category I explicitly asked for (behavioral inferiorities). For example, look at the response from u/CatchPhraze , which actually answered my question even if I don't think those examples are the strongest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Thanks for at least giving an example that's actually a behavioral inferiority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 06:00 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?It doesn't matter if I do or don't. The behavioral traits are a group don't necessarily extend to each individual in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?You can take a look at the answer from u/CatchPhraze Her examples are somewhat weak, but at least they are examples that actually answer the question, i.e. exhibit behavioral inferiority. So once again, the answers I'm looking for are ones with behavioral inferiorities. Not very complicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:57 PM |
| -3 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Thank you for being the first person to come close to answering the question and providing actual examples of inferior female behavior, not stupid things like "women are weaker" or "women go through pregnancy". I feel like 2 and 5 are a little bit weak, but at least thank you for having your examples be in the correct category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:55 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?The "specific answers" I'm looking for are behavioral inferiorities, as I literally specified in my post. Only one woman's response has come close to actually answering the question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:52 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?1, 2, 3 are not at all behavioral inferiorities. 4 is somewhat iffy... but I'll take it. 5 is a good example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Yes, that's one example that fits what I'm looking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:48 PM |
| -5 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?I want to see if women are self aware and capable of identifying their own gender's behavioral inferiorities. I quite literally did that for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:45 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?These are not ways in which women are inferior. I'm looking for ways in which they are BEHAVIORALLY inferior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Yes, and it's the actual harming of others that's seen as problematic, not the mental illness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:43 PM |
| -4 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Besides spatial reasoning, this is entirely listing out ways in which women are victims, not ways in which they are behaviorally inferior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:42 PM |
| -5 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Yeah but again, certain behaviors are mainly committed by one gender. Violence is a male behavior for example. I'm not really looking for if these behaviors are biological or sociological here. Just asking women to name 5 examples of important female bad behaviors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:41 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Yes, I agree. However, men and women exhibit these traits in different ways. I already listed out 5 male behaviors that exhibit them, so now I'm asking for 5 female behaviors that do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:36 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Like I said, I'm basing it on general societal values. Mental illness is no longer seen as a sign of inferiority, just like physical illness isn't. The three main things viewed as morally inferior are: causing harm to others, dishonesty, and stupidity. Behaviors aligned with these are considered to demonstrate inferiority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Generally, I'm referring to traits involving causing harm to others, exhibiting dishonesty, or demonstrating stupidity (stupidity is essentially the greatest uncontrollable trait society still deems morally inferior). The examples in my original post all fit this description. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:32 PM |
| -4 | Q4W: Can you name five important ways in which women are inferior to men?Besides your point on the sisterhood, these are not points of social/moral inferiority. They're all points supporting victimhood but not actual inferiority. For example, being depressed is not considered a sign of inferiority, while being violent or stupid is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 05:27 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?You can do that with 100M easily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/25 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Those comments were referring to $1 billion. If you read my post, I also ask about higher amounts than $1M. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Interesting flair btw. I decided to make a custom flair inspired by your format. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 03:20 PM |
| 7 | Feminists and Redpillers are two sides of the same sexist coin.Andrew Tate is not an incel. Incels despise Andrew Tate and despise tradcons. I really don't know what to tell you if you think traditional conservatism is incel ideology. Incel ideology would involve viewing society as fundamentally a gynocracy and viewing all social issues through the lens of women oppressing men, which is just as against traditional conservatism as woke ideology is. Tradcons think incels are whiny losers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 03:14 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?You first rebalance the social power between men and women by destroying woke ideology/culture and bringing back classical liberalism. You then liberate men from their gender role in the same way women have been liberated from theirs. Use the media and social media to campaign against traditional expectations on men, and make misandry as socially taboo as misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 03:09 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Uh, basically all the dating-related traditional social expectations that still apply to men? Being expected to approach/initiate everything, being expected to be economically and socially successful (and judged harshly if not), still being expected to be the breadwinner, etc. If all cultural norms are downstream of material conditions, then young men and young women being equal economically should mean that men are freed from their gender role like women have been. But that has not happened. As… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 02:59 PM |
| 8 | Feminists and Redpillers are two sides of the same sexist coin.Are you seriously going to argue that Trump, Vance and Elon are incels? The guys who are married multiple times with kids from different women? Incel ideology could not be farther removed from the Heritage Foundation type conservatism or "Dark enlightenment tech bro" ideology; the only thing in common is their opposition to wokeness/social justice ideology. There are never been an incel with real power in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?The earnings gap is not driven by discrimination; the wage gap has been debunked. The earnings gap is primarily driven by women choosing lower paying fields, working less, and taking time off due to pregnancy/childcare. Fixing the earnings gap is about fixing the social inequalities that drive these choices. Just like how fixing the "dating gap" is about fixing the social inequalities that make dating harder for men. Not about forcing women to date men they don't want to. I really don't see what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 02:35 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Wow cool. Let's get rid of all politicians and policymakers then. No more policy debates. After all there are no societal problems, any problem someone has is their own fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 02:29 PM |
| 8 | Feminists and Redpillers are two sides of the same sexist coin.You are missing a lot of nuance here. Yes, in terms of negative harm, the worst of the worst is still incels because they commit violence. But nonviolent incels commit basically zero harm, because incels are low status and can only commit harm through violence. They don't have relationships or social circles. The only platform for their ideology is their own forums in dark corners of the internet. Meanwhile, extremist feminists teach their ideology in lecture halls, advance it in prominent magaz… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Well I'm explicitly speaking from a "diagnosing/fixing social issues" perspective, not the "giving individual advice" perspective as you are talking about here. Please read my point about the earnings gap vs "dating success gap" again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 02:09 PM |
| – | DISCUSSION🗨️ ABOUT MAIN PPD POSTS📮, LOOKS👀, AND N-COUNT🔢 ARE RESTRICTED🚫 FROM THE DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD🧵Meta question/complaint: why do so many posters, especially women, insist on speaking from a "giving personal advice" perspective when I'm explicitly speaking from a "diagnosing societal issues" perspective? It's extremely annoying, and I'm not sure if these women just don't get it or if they're doing it on purpose. I do see that an effective (albeit bad faith) debate tactic is switching to a "giving personal advice" position once you start losing, since as the advice giver, you naturally have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?You're the one not getting it. Why do you keep coming at this from the context of personal advice? This has nothing to do personal advice. The context I'm speaking in is the discourse around social inequalities and how they affect gendered outcome disparities (at a societal level). I'm questioning why there is so much focus on fixing the social inequalities that cause the earnings gap, whereas the "dating success gap" is brushed off as an unserious problem despite being a much larger inequality … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 01:56 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?No, the campaign for more women in STEM is not about fighting latent discrimination by employers. In fact, there are studies showing that in many areas of STEM, resumes with female names are more likely to be hired than equivalent resumes with male names. (Example, females are 41% more likely to be hired in software engineering jobs with an equivalent resume: https://economics.yale.edu/sites/default/files/marley_finley.senior_essay.pdf) The campaign for more women in STEM is all about rectifying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 01:50 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?I never claimed women are saying "great relationships are worse than being single". I'm claiming women are massively downplaying the EXTENT to which a great relationship is better than being single. Based on the material value women here put on sex/romance, the "dating gap" between men and women is objectively many orders of magnitudes larger than the earnings gap. Yet the latter is taken extremely seriously, while the former is dismissed and downplayed as an ultimately trivial, insignificant is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 01:42 PM |
| -8 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Just because relationships require mutual consent doesn't mean the dating market isn't heavily shaped by culture and social norms/expectations, many of which are changeable without going against anyone's consent. Why is that when less women are going into STEM than men, we assume it's mostly because of social/cultural factors and try to change them, yet when men do worse in dating, suddenly it's men's responsibility to change themselves and there's zero push to question (let alone change) the su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Copy/paste: If you really want to know why I'm asking this, it's because I'm seeing lots of women trivialize men's dating issues and downplay women's advantages over men by suggesting sex/romance are insignificant and even not necessary for a full life. In fact, when struggling men complain, most women even try to paint being locked out from sex/relationships entirely as no big deal at all. There definitely is this attitude that dating issues are something frivolous/unserious and not "real probl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 01:10 PM |
| -7 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Lol no you don't. You totally missed the real point of the question, in fact the "I'll choose love over any amount of money" answers prove my point. If you really want to know why I'm asking this, it's because I'm seeing lots of women trivialize men's dating issues and downplay women's advantages over men by suggesting sex/romance are insignificant and even not necessary for a full life. In fact, when struggling men complaining, most women even try to paint being locked out from sex/relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 01:02 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?That was a later edit I made to the post because I wasn't thinking about these loopholes initially. The comment you responded to was before that edit. But I'll go ahead and delete it to avoid confusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:54 PM |
| 5 | Saying "Don't worry, you still have plenty of time for kids" to women who are like 35 is bad adviceYeah I mostly agree with your overall thesis. However I don't quite agree with claim A, the implication behind that user's comment is that an older woman can have healthy kids as long as she gets with a much younger man. It's true that generally women want slightly older men, but in the context of older women who still want kids, they naturally should be going for young men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:53 PM |
| -1 | Saying "Don't worry, you still have plenty of time for kids" to women who are like 35 is bad adviceOf course it's a sociology major saying this BS 😂😂 Wish that stupid field could get fully defunded and burned to the ground, then rebuilt once wokeness is gone. It's a fundamentally interesting and important area of study that's gotten hijacked by social justice activists and now serves the singular purpose of providing a veneer of academic legitimacy for woke ideology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?To clarify, is $10M the minimum amount you'd take the deal for? Considering you don't mind being single, would you take it for any less than that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:39 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Sorry, just to clarify- I'm saying think back to before you met your husband, say as an older teenager. At that point, you didn't know you'd meet him. If the deal had been offered to you at that point, do you think your younger self would have taken it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:36 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?I specified that the money must be spent selfishly and cannot be used to fix world problems (including supporting social causes). The main point of the question is "how much is sex/romance materially worth to you", so allowing the money to be spent on immaterial social causes defeats the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:34 PM |
| 0 | Feminists and Redpillers are two sides of the same sexist coin.You are confusing Redpill and blackpill. Redpill is individualist, promotes male gender roles, and shames men who self-victimize or don't conform to social expectations. That's the total opposite from feminism. Meanwhile, feminists and incels are two sides of the same coin. Their ideologies /prescriptions are basically exact gender opposites, it's just the former has more formal academic dressing. And that tells you a lot about how backwards society is. Incels are treated as potential terrorists… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Follow up: thinking back to before you had your first sexual/romantic experience, would you have taken the deal at that point in your life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:22 PM |
| 9 | Why Most Men Who "Give Up on Dating" Are Just Reacting, and not Thinking.Yep, more creep accusations and public humiliation for you. You go king! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?I'm referring to real relationships. You can have any kind of imaginary or parasocial relationship you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:18 PM |
| -6 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Ok, by "spending it on yourself" I'm including picking up the tab for activities you do with your friends, even things like expensive restaurants, first class flights, etc. The intention of that condition is basically that the money has to be used selfishly, not strictly just on yourself. I'm just trying to avoid the loophole of "I'll take a billion dollars and set up all my friends and family with generational wealth". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:12 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?You'd be surprised on how easily you can spend a billion dollars. Buy some mega mansions in NYC and LA, a fleet of mega yachts and private jets, and a large collection of supercars, and you're almost there already. For a few million, you can probably buy some private concerts with the biggest celebrities in the world too. There's so many experiences you can unlock with a billion dollars that no one on this sub can imagine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:09 PM |
| -3 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?But couldn't loads of money unlock tons more life experiences? You can live in a mansion, fly on a private jet, have your favorite celebrities perform privately for you, travel the world on a luxury yacht, etc. Alternatively, I'm curious what your response to the follow up is. Imagine a time before you ever experienced sex/romance. Would you have taken the deal then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:06 PM |
| -5 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?But you don't have to be totally alone, you still have an extremely active social life your girl friends. With tons of money, couldn't you just retire and focus on your hobbies / spending time with your friends? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Just to clarify, you've never had any sexual or romantic experiences before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Does your family not have a comfortable life right now? Would your answer change if you were forced to spend the money on yourself alone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 11:47 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?What about the follow up: think back to before you experienced sex/romance at all. How much money would you have needed to take the deal then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 11:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?What about the follow up: think back to before you experienced sex/romance at all. How much money would you have needed to take the deal then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: For $1 million, would you be willing to permanently forgo sex/romance? If not, how much would you need?Just because you divorce doesn't mean you can't keep seeing your child. How much money would it take then? Surely you'd divorce your husband for $10 billion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 11:42 AM |
| 17 | Why Most Men Who "Give Up on Dating" Are Just Reacting, and not Thinking.Let's say I go onto r/AskWomen, and search up the threads about women's opinions on approaches. I read the top voted comments of every thread, and quite many of them say "Don't approach me at all, in any circumstance". Which social media algorithm is manipulating me via ragebait? None at all. So now the question is whether female-dominated subreddits are representative of women in real life. Personally, I live in a hyper liberal bubble dominated by woke ideology, so the answer is yes. Now finall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 11:39 AM |
| 4 | Men aren't approaching women due to a lack of social skills, merely because they are taught not to.It's a well informed estimate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/25 01:31 AM |
| 5 | Nerdy men who want a partner who shares their specific interests are more delusional than women who want a partner who makes 300k a year in his 20sLol what? Comic cons are like a 10:1 gender ratio. Besides, a lot of (I daresay, even most?) nerdy women are radical social justice warriors who despise men and spend all day whining about the "white supremacist cis-heteropatriarchy". Just look at r/TwoXChromosomes and r/AskFeminists to get a good idea of what talking to them is like. Not great candidates for dating lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 07:15 PM |
| 1 | A lot of “icks” and turn-offs are just modern women reinforcing traditional gender roles while pretending to reject themWow what a chad, you're so cool bro. Want a cookie? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 02:34 PM |
| 38 | A lot of “icks” and turn-offs are just modern women reinforcing traditional gender roles while pretending to reject themNo. I have never heard of men randomly getting the ick for trivial things like those listed in the post. Men are also not enforcing any kind of traditional gendered expectations on women. Stop trying to "both sides" this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 11:50 AM |
| 16 | Men aren't approaching women due to a lack of social skills, merely because they are taught not to.Can I say the same thing to any woman complaining about how she was conditioned into [insert gender role]? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 10:25 AM |
| 17 | Men aren't approaching women due to a lack of social skills, merely because they are taught not to.Are you seriously dismissing culture, environment, and social conditioning entirely, and attributing his fears of approaching women completely to personal failure? That's the real cop out here. Next time I hear a woman complain that women are conditioned to believe that their value comes from their looks, can I just tell her that's women's own fault for believing it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 10:22 AM |
| 6 | Men aren't approaching women due to a lack of social skills, merely because they are taught not to.Common sense estimates. Obviously it's not exact but for a below average guy, it's in this ballpark | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 10:06 AM |
| 8 | Why do a lot of you say, it’s easy for men to get a date nowadays when it really isn’t?You're literally contradicting yourself in your tiny comment. If "some men", enough to make up a nontrivial minority, don't have love in their cards at all, then by definition getting dates is not easy for men (especially since the vast majority of men who struggle to get dates still end up with someone in the end). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 09:49 AM |
| 16 | Men aren't approaching women due to a lack of social skills, merely because they are taught not to.It's 10x more common than the woman saying yes though. There's maybe a 20% chance of a response akin to the video I linked, a 5% chance of her accusing you of harassment and calling the cops, and a 1% chance of her agreeing to go on a date. So it's simply not worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 09:45 AM |
| 3 | Why do a lot of you say, it’s easy for men to get a date nowadays when it really isn’t?A lot of people here are missing the mark. Deep down, women don't actually believe that men can easily get dates. That's why, whenever you get into a personal insult contest with a woman, she pulls out the "men are lonely but I can get anyone I want" card. The actual reason women say this is because under the modern social justice oriented culture, identitarian victimhood is power. Power is a zero-sum game, so to gain power, women seek to exaggerate their own victimhood and downplay/dismiss male… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 09:31 AM |
| 17 | Men aren't approaching women due to a lack of social skills, merely because they are taught not to.Being yelled at and publicly shamed... the interaction would look something like this: https://youtu.be/v6WRFXFjjCg?si=FDSd7LjI4-4gEI__ Except, imagine it is in a large public area and she's yelling, so you just have to sit there and take the humiliation rather than retaliating. That's not even close to the worst thing that can happen though. She might just scream that you're sexually assaulting her, or call the cops. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 09:26 AM |
| 1 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.See this is what you're not getting. Why exactly do you think the average NPC I'm talking about is some kind of fedora wearing neckbeard wearing hentai T shirts? I'm talking about a guy who looks like this. He already has a nice haircut and decent fashion. It's not worth it for him to go to a $200 barber to get "the perfect haircut"or spend hundreds on "the perfect fit". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 03:17 PM |
| -1 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.It's so funny how women here keep trying to paint nerdy guys as "actually winning" as opposed to being the sexless losers everyone knows they are. The virtue signaling never ends | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 03:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Inter-sex Resentment Is Caused (at least in part) By How Both Sexes Have Irrational/Contradictory Desires For The Otherlol, it very much is. You know the 80/20 rule? That's hypergamy. Literally Redpill 101 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 03:05 PM |
| -3 | CMV: Inter-sex Resentment Is Caused (at least in part) By How Both Sexes Have Irrational/Contradictory Desires For The OtherIn what world? Have you forgotten hypergamy is a thing? Women date up in every aspect, including looks and SES. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:56 PM |
| 2 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.And I told you that the "average NPC milquetoast pointdexter"- the person the post is targeted towards- already does all the things you're describing. Also, the alternative to a terrible solution is not doing nothing at all. The guy in this scenario has tons of actual solutions, such as plastic surgery, passport bro, or even giving up dating altogether. For a normal guy, trying to make micro optimizations on haircut and style is a total waste of time. It's like the meme of telling someone to sto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:49 PM |
| 8 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.You aren't getting it. The average milquetoast pointdexter is ALREADY doing all the things I just listed. There's average milquetoast pointdexter already meets all the standards for normalcy and isn't shy or neurotic or high-inhib. He is socially intuitive and can crack jokes just fine. There's a MASSIVE gap between a high-inhib neurotic boring guy and a generic milquetoast pointdexter. And then another massive gap between this and someone with an actual "sexy personality". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:43 PM |
| 17 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.You are contradicting yourself left and right. The average NPC already does all this. BY DEFINITION he acts normal. The average young guy goes to the gym, has decent hygiene, and pays attention to his style. Why are you conflating your weird caricature of an antisocial nerd who has clear social deficiencies with "the average NPC"? Edit: I just read your post again and you're even contradicting yourself within it. You're conflating a bunch of different standards for social competence that couldn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:36 PM |
| 1 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.I know that, I was making an analogy to illustrate how delusional and unrealistic her advice is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:28 PM |
| 5 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.There is a difference between "hard" and "delusional to the point of insanity". Progressive adjustments aren't going to turn an NPC into a charismatic smooth talker, just like it won't turn an average middle class guy into a mega millionaire. Even big 5 personality traits are pretty much immutable once you reach adulthood, let alone everything else. You are partly right about teenagers though. Your "advice" would be useful to someone's who's at most 14 years old and unnaturally high inhib. But m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:25 PM |
| 8 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.The average NPC already "relaxes and grins instead of glaring at others in judgement". To be genuinely charismatic as a man you need a special talent and personality type. The "flattering haircut" and "posture improvement" will help with this as much as a $5000 bonus will help you become a multimillionaire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:21 PM |
| 10 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.Yeah the Nobel prize analogy was obviously a hyperbole. Realistically, telling some boring NPC to become a charismatic, socially intuitive smooth talker in adulthood is like telling an average middle-class guy to become a decamillionaire in adulthood. It's totally delusional. I still can't tell whether this is a troll post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:16 PM |
| 4 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.Her advice is just as right as my advice for the average NPC to become a multimillionaire. After all you just need to practice and grind. What's hard about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:12 PM |
| 17 | If you’re an average NPC, becoming “sexy” is about shifting your behavioral mindset more than anything.Yeah bro these are some great suggestions you got there. Here are some other behavioral mindset changes he should make: -Develop his mental intuition and win a few Nobel prizes -Develop his financial intuition and become a billionaire from trading stocks -Develop his vocal intuition and gain a deep, soothing voice that makes girls swoon -Develop his vertical intuition and become 6'4 It's really easy, he just needs to practice. I mean after all, he managed to go from a boring NPC to a hyper chari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 02:05 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Wokeness = radical social justice ideology (based on using the reductive oppressor/victim framework, derived from bastardized postmodern critical theory, as the primary lens for viewing the world) and the repressive, puritanical culture surrounding it. The tangible harm that feminism has caused me is the same tangible harm that racism causes black people in the rural South. Btw, anyone trying to make fun of me rather engaging with the arguments is just proving my point, lol. You're obviously a b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 01:44 AM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Just because you are a creepy pervert who can't think of anything but sex doesn't mean all men are the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 01:05 AM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Lol I can very much read a grant application, thank you. And in fact, I literally go to one of the universities that Trump is targeting (Berkeley). It's a far left shithole and I'm glad it's being threatened with defunding. Ultimately, the universities which kill their DEI nonsense will get their funding back. The ones that don't should be weakened as much as possible, and the funding redirected for better use. This is perfectly good for the country. I just wish Trump would also destroy all soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 12:55 AM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Voting is not, and has never been, a HUMAN right. It's at best a legal right and most definitely not inalienable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 12:51 AM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Yes, you can argue that, and I'm not going to throw a hissy fit like the women are doing here. You are going to have to implement your voting ban in some way though. How will you know who's Redpill and who isn't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 12:49 AM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?What's funny is that you automatically assumed I'm white. I'm a POC born to immigrant parents. It seems like you who's unable to recognize perspectives other than your own. As for your comment on autocracy, did you know that the US is not the only democracy out there? Wow, shocker, I know. Tons of democracies in Africa and South America became corrupt failed states. Meanwhile, Singapore went from a backwards hellhole to what is today because they had an autocracy. So did China, which went from b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 12:46 AM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Lol yep, ironically she is just proving my point further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 12:34 AM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Dude there are tons of comments here and I'm also doing other things right now. No one is scared of you dumbass. You've made zero actual arguments against me btw, only a bunch of weird insults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:49 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?You need to take a basic history class if you think we had universal suffrage in the 18th century. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:46 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Yeah Curtis Yarvin is indeed pretty based. Is this some kinda gotcha? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:45 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Doesn't that partly prove my point? I'm a male, I'm open to debating whether men should have voting rights. I'm also a minority, and I'm open to arguments from white nationalists for why I should lose my right to vote. None of this offends me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:30 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?I'd be hesitant to equate "right wing = good" historically though. There's been long stretches historically where right wing ideology was just as insane, backwards, and repressive as modern wokeness, and represented female interests over male ones. Then you also need to consider the lag between women gaining voting rights and the full removal of barriers for them to participate in the political sphere. I think it's hard to prove or disprove the argument I outlined because there's so many confoun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:23 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?It's about excluding people who would clearly refuse to respond properly and instead troll, derail, and insult. The vast majority of women will not engage in this topic with good faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:21 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Are you offended? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:13 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Because Redpillers are the only ones who could possibly have a reasonable conversation about this. What exactly do you think the responses would look like if I asked this to bluepillers or women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:12 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Universal suffrage very much should be controversial. I'm not "clamoring for women not to vote". I'm just open to the idea and it's growing on me- I outlined the basic argument in the post. I'm also open to arguments for excluding all kinds of other people from voting- e.g. single people, students, net tax receivers, even blacks or Asians or Latinos. In fact, I even think there's a strong argument that we should remove voting altogether. America may be better off as a monarchy or dictatorship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 10:05 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?What's there to be worried about? The tariffs are on pause. Trump is indeed playing a bit fast and loose with the deportations, but the media is blowing it way out of proportion. DOGE is also going a bit too fast but it's generally doing fine. Trump's doing great with his funding cuts to universities and efforts to eliminate DEI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 09:52 PM |
| – | What are your thoughts on repealing the 19th amendment?Yeah, I also highly question universal suffrage altogether. The founders were really onto something when they restricted voting rights to white landowning men. I think maybe an alternative, modern-day solution is to allow 1 vote per "full household" (i.e. married couple with at least one child) that's a net contributor to taxes, and no votes for anyone else. I feel like this would be in strong alignment with the well-being of society, though unfortunately I'd lose my own vote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 09:48 PM |
| 7 | One of women's biggest advantage: In-group biasYes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/25 04:39 PM |
| 3 | What part of a man's personality are women attracted to?Funny then how intelligence is negatively correlated with romantic success, and the fields requiring the highest intelligence (pure math, theoretical physics, etc) are the ones most repulsive to women. Have you ever seen a woman lust over a man because he has a PhD in algebraic geometry? Me neither. In reality, women want a smooth talker who seems worldly and cultured. That's not intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 06:52 PM |
| – | dating effect from parties and into life.Female privilege in action. A fat guy wouldn't be invited to college parties in the first place, and even if he did, all the girls would run away from him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 06:46 PM |
| 5 | Men should stop lying about having low standardsNo, that's an idiotic way of thinking. How high your standards are are measured relative to YOURSELF. Not relative to "the market". For example, if you are in a town with 1000 men and 10 women, and all the women are dysfunctional druggies, refusing to date a dysfunctional druggie isn't "high standards" even though it disqualifies all of the women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 01:17 PM |
| 1 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.They are very much the same women. Just like how it's the women who are constantly in relationships telling men that staying single for life is perfectly fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 01:12 PM |
| 0 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.There's no such thing as a woman who's permanently socially ostracized and excluded. If a woman has no friends, it's entirely by choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 12:59 PM |
| 16 | Men should stop lying about having low standardsLow standards doesn't mean no standards whatsoever. You can have low standards while excluding people in completely different stages of life and dysfunctional human beings. A lot of average men, their standards are "around my age, not obese or deformed, functional human being (i.e. has a job, not a druggie or criminal or hobo)". These ARE low standards, especially compared to the "quadruple 6" his female counterpart is asking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 12:56 PM |
| 2 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Biology and culture are. Women naturally add value to other women's lives while men don't inherently add value to other men's lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 12:43 PM |
| -3 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Just because I want nothing to do with women doesn't mean other men share the same sentiment. Most kissless virgins are desperate simps who crave the slightest hint of female attention. And you are correct- although I am sympathetic to these men and wish their life improves, I do not personally care about them. Men don't care about other men. There is no male solidarity or "brotherhood" like there is the sisterhood/female solidarity. Because once again, women are inherently valuable and men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 12:39 PM |
| 1 | I feel like the Gender War and the modern “pills” movements are manufactured.They might be helping exacerbate the "gender wars" but they certainly aren't the root cause. The root cause is the takeover of the social justice movement in the early 2010s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 11:41 AM |
| -3 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Oh believe me, I am glad. I'm speaking for low value men in general here. Not sure why you're making it about me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 11:39 AM |
| -1 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Men were complaining about the economic and political aspects of it, not the social isolation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 11:27 AM |
| 0 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Thanks for continuing to prove my point. Such a long comment chain with not a single argument from you, only childish insults 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:50 AM |
| -1 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.You still have made zero arguments and said nothing of substance... except an ad hominem I guess. Typical female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:38 AM |
| -1 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Men are naturally lonelier than women. THEREFORE, the lockdown, which equalized everyone's social lives to zero, had a much greater impact on women than men. That's the conclusion of my logic, not whatever BS you made up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:31 AM |
| 1 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.No, your logic makes zero sense. Low value men had zero social interaction anyway. The lockdown didn't change a thing for them so they simply didn't care. Women had their active social lives destroyed, so THEY reacted extremely emotionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:29 AM |
| 1 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.It very much is gendered. There's a male loneliness epidemic but no female loneliness epidemic. There are lots of male incels but no such thing as a femcel. Normally, women are MORE socially active than men, and there are WAY MORE isolated men than women- because men face a much higher bar than women for social acceptance. Socially, the lockdowns hit women WAY HARDER than men. So the reactions to the lockdown do support my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:23 AM |
| -6 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Why are you so consistently allergic to generalizations and insist on making gendered things non-gendered? If you're so afraid of generalizations, there's no point coming on this sub. Normally, women are MORE socially active than men, and there are WAY MORE isolated men than women- because men face a much higher bar than women for social acceptance. Socially, the lockdowns hit women WAY HARDER than men. So the reactions to the lockdown do support my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:21 AM |
| -1 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Lol wtf? You think lonely men WANT to be inside all day with zero social interaction? Low value men are FORCED inside too, because unlike low value women who still easily join friend groups and find romantic relationships, low value men are thoroughly ostracized from all social circles. Women can socialize/date just by existing, but men need to bring something to the table. This is gender dynamics 101. The isolation women faced during COVID is the same isolation low value men face their whole li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:15 AM |
| -7 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.Ok? Yes, COVID sucked and it was very tragic for many victims of the disease. No, it doesn't change the premise of my post: normal women were breaking down over temporarily experiencing the social isolation that low value men experience their whole lives. You aren't making any arguments here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:07 AM |
| -15 | The reactions to the COVID pandemic prove that women are fragile hypocrites.The men against the lockdowns were overwhelmingly against it for economic reasons. These were blue collar workers, small business owners, etc who wanted to get back to work to feed their families. In terms of the reactions to the social isolation itself, women fared FAR worse. It's just the economic impact was worse on men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 03:03 AM |
| 7 | No one cares about “men checking out” other than anti-feminists.You probably don't know them well enough. I bet quite a few guys you know have checked out but are hiding it from you. Do you know the relationship status and social life of every single guy you know? A lot of seemingly normal guys are doing worse than you'd think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/25 12:22 PM |
| -14 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.No, my entire position doesn't rest on that. My entire position is a meta level argument and independent of the actual state of the dating market. You need to read more carefully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:45 PM |
| 2 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.Classical liberalism emphasizes EQUAL, not equitable, rights and opportunities. Collective responsibility is quite literally directly opposed to liberalism, which prioritizes individualism (so individual agency and responsibility). "Community advocacy" has nothing to do with liberalism. I have no clue where you're getting this garbage information from. You know that modern feminism and social justice ideology is fundamentally based on critical theory, which stems from Marxism and CRITIQUES class… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:40 PM |
| -3 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.I did not make any claim about assortative mating breaking down nor assume it as a given. My entire post is a meta-level argument. My premise is based on this reality: there are many people who ARGUE that due to "hoeflation", men are consistently dating below their league, and therefore what needs to be changed is ending hoeflation and returning to assortative mating. Whether or not you agree with this argument is irrelevant. What I AM saying that when someone makes this argument, you need to ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:32 PM |
| 1 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.There is nothing liberal about modern feminism either. Modern feminism is diametrically opposed to egalitarianism and classical liberal values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:29 PM |
| 1 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.Even on the level of individual advice, I don't think it's valid to say "your value is what you can get". The conditions of the broader dating market still affect your individual situation and determine what you can realistically expect. It doesn't make sense to shut down discussion of this. I do agree though that on the individual advice level, the main focus should be on what you can actually do. Secondly, I find that often when people zoom in on their individual plight, it's often for the pur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:26 PM |
| 0 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.That's your belief. It's not a hard fact. If you think that hoeflation is "demonstrably made up", you need to demonstrate why it's made up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:16 PM |
| -5 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.The change I am suggesting is for people to stop shutting down arguments with thought-terminating cliches. "Your value is what you can get" is tautologically true while also being a useless thought-terminating cliche. So yes, it needs to stop being said. I already thoroughly explained this in my post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:13 PM |
| 1 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.My initial premise is not flawed because the entire post is a meta-level argument. My premise is based on this reality: there are many people who ARGUE that due to "hoeflation", men are consistently dating below their league, and therefore what needs to be changed is ending hoeflation and returning to assortative mating. Whether or not you agree with this argument is irrelevant. What I AM saying that you need to actually engage with the argument rather than shutting it down with the stupid clich… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 04:08 PM |
| -14 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.My entire post is a meta-level argument. Here, I have not taken any stance on the dating market; what I think needs to be changed is irrelevant to my post. The reality is that there are many people who believe that due to "hoeflation", men are consistently dating below their league, and therefore what needs to be changed is ending hoeflation and returning to assortative mating. What I AM saying that you need to actually engage with this argument rather than shutting it down with the stupid clich… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 03:57 PM |
| -11 | "Your value is what you can get" is a useless tautology that purely serves as a thought-terminating cliche.Yes, Redpill states that male and female NATURE just "are". That says nothing about what the dating market, which is heavily affected by social/cultural/political/economic factors, SHOULD look like. The normative question of what the dating market should look like is separate from Redpill theory, which is purely descriptive. The current default answer to this normative question is "assortative mating". So when society deviates too much from assortative mating, the default assumption is we need t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Men are menHave you heard of something called selection bias? You know that middle-aged men who visit prostitutes and middle-aged men on dating apps aren't representative of the average middle-aged man right? You should've learned this in middle school math class. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/25 12:53 PM |
| – | Men do not understand valueDo you know what sub this is? This is a debate sub. It's not a dating advice sub. The goal here is to analyze and debate gender dynamics, not to get laid. Now, that said, even for personal purposes, understanding dating and gender dynamics is important. Nobody has ever advocated to act like your bizarre caricature of a sperg, that's a stupid strawman you made up. People here are simply deconstructing/systemizing dating and gender dynamics on a societal scale to develop a better understanding of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 10:25 PM |
| – | Men do not understand valueThat's the worst strawman I've ever seen. No one is saying "me 3, you 3, we date now". What leagues mean is "if I'm a 3, I should EXPECT (in the probabilistic sense) to get paired up with A 3". What you are doing here is mixing up different levels of analysis. "Leagues" are defined in the context of a certain dating market, and while they DO inform individual interactions, they obviously don't fully govern individual interactions. As an analogy, literally take a normal market. If the market valu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Both sexes experience privileges that the other sex does not.No, feminists are not like Christians. Yep. Some Christians have done horrible things in the name of Christianity, but they were all done by abusing religion and disregarding what the actual scripture says. All the garbage feminists do is quite literally baked into their "scripture" (foundational theories that the field takes as a sacred truth). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Both sexes experience privileges that the other sex does not.Yep. Some Christians have done horrible things, but they were all done by abusing religion and disregarding what the actual scripture says. All the garbage feminists do is quite literally baked into their "scripture" (foundational theories that the field takes as a sacred truth). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 08:51 PM |
| – | Men do not understand valueThat is a lot of words to say "your value is what you can get". That's an extremely superficial, basically tautological statement that isn't useful at all. We have a collective default conception of what each market SHOULD look like, under reasonable circumstances; and if the market drifts away from this significantly, the natural reaction is that we ought to either fix the market, unless something has fundamentally changed that merits readjusting expectations permanently. For example, imagine i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 04:32 PM |
| 7 | Both sexes experience privileges that the other sex does not.What I'm describing is literally mainstream, standard feminism. Not fringe weirdos on the internet. Feminism has moved on from liberalism and egalitarianism a LONG time ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 03:47 AM |
| 14 | Both sexes experience privileges that the other sex does not.Patriarchy is not "men having more socioeconomic autonomy than his female class equal". By that definition, patriarchy no longer exists in mainstream western society. Patriarchy is "institutionalized male power and privilege", which feminists are adamant is still deeply embedded in society. Feminists have explicitly made it clear that is feminism is the movement for the liberation of women from traditional social expectations and the destruction of male power/privilege. They do that by taking po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 03:29 AM |
| – | Men need to stop with their revenge fantasyYep thanks for confirming women have dating on easy mode and can easily find simps, LOL! When I was arguing the exact same thing the other day it was getting shouted down, but now I hear it straight from the horse's mouth. Just don't try to act like a helpless victim of the patriarchy now that you've admitted this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 02:50 AM |
| 17 | Q4M: Would you date someone who fetishizes you? Why or why not?Most men are desperate enough that they don't care | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 02:42 AM |
| 5 | Men need to accept that dating may not be on the cards for themYes, I did. Don't pretend that you would even remotely be trying to put all the responsibility on the woman if the genders were reversed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 02:31 AM |
| 12 | Men need to accept that dating may not be on the cards for themSo somehow women's negative feelings and dispositions are entirely socially constructed and ingrained into them by the patriarchy, which they bear no individual responsibility for, while all of men's negative feelings and dispositions are their fault. Classic misandry right here- male hyperagency and femmale hypoagency whenever it's convenient. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 02:22 AM |
| 31 | Both sexes experience privileges that the other sex does not.I don't think anyone has an issue with the idea that that men and women both have privileges, and it shouldn't be a competition. But try telling this to feminists and progressives, and you'll get laughed out the room. What people have issue with is the idea that men are systemically privileged while women are systemically oppressed, and therefore any men's issues should be sidelined and dismissed until the patriarchy is gone. These people furthermore believe in the "progressive stack", where by … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 02:16 AM |
| – | Young men are radicalized into the manosphere by what WOMEN say in progressive spaces.Every single one of these statements is completely, objectively correct. Not one of them is hateful or misogynistic. What's your issue? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 02:09 AM |
| – | Young men are radicalized into the manosphere by what WOMEN say in progressive spaces.Who says these men are specifically angry ONLY at women? These men hate everyone, especially themselves. The anger at women goes hand in hand with anger towards the entire social order. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Men need to stop with their revenge fantasyBrutal but true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 06:41 PM |
| 4 | You probably should start caring about a woman’s careerAt the high levels assortative mating is simply impossible, because there right tail of almost every field is male dominated. For example, if you're a man making 7 figures, chances are you'll have to date way down in income/career. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 04:01 PM |
| 8 | You probably should start caring about a woman’s careerWell, the other side of the coin is women tend to have an extremely inflated ego over very mediocre achievements. For example, I'll often see "strong independent women" bragging about how educated and successful they are, and smugly putting down the men they encounter for being so stupid and uneducated. And then this "strong independent woman" turns out to be a midwit pencil-pushing corporate drone with a humanities degree from a no-name college and zero academic achievements her entire life. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 03:40 PM |
| 2 | How often do you encounter a man you're attracted to?That's not what "attracted to" means in this context. "being attracted to" someone means that you find them visually attractive, as in they look good enough that you wouldn't mind going on a date with them, and can see yourself potentially in a relationship with them. It doesn't mean you actively have any kind of feelings for them. For example, a lot of men are attracted to 80-90% of women their age that they come across, even though they barely notice and are totally indifferent towards 90% of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/25 01:57 AM |
| -10 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWCopy/paste: By modern women, I mean women immersed in the modern cultural zeitgeist, i.e. elite culture which is dominant among the producers of our consumable cultural products (art/media/scholarship). This culture is nowadays exactly the same as woke culture. I see Reddit as a good representation of woke/elite culture, the type you'll see on Ivy League campuses (or at my school, Berkeley). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 09:07 AM |
| 1 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOW??? What are you talking about? Who says he doesn't drive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 06:52 AM |
| 1 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWNo one is asking for her to "move her insurance". The husband is asking to move his OWN prescription. Just because she pays for their insurance doesn't mean they need to get prescriptions at the same pharmacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 06:49 AM |
| 2 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWBy modern women, I mean women immersed in the modern cultural zeitgeist, i.e. elite culture which is dominant among the producers of our consumable cultural products (art/media/scholarship). This culture is nowadays exactly the same as woke culture. I see Reddit as a good representation of woke/elite culture, the type you'll see on Ivy League campuses (or at my school, Berkeley). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:34 AM |
| 2 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWNo. There's a trend where often big corporate pharmacies will have shortages while smaller/local ones are fine. Probably something to do with different supply chains, or big pharmacies having more predictable demand leading to less inventory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:29 AM |
| -3 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWWhy do you disagree with my conclusion? Look at this very thread. Every single comment from women is trying to justify and defend the OP in the other thread. Even the "level-headed"/"reasonable" women here are giving that woman full benefit of doubt and none to the husband. The reaction in this thread is literally proving my point. Women twist themselves into knots to defend the sisterhood and their perverted political dogma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:24 AM |
| -3 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWEven the women in this very thread (and also that one white knight who lives on PPD 24/7) are taking every opportunity they can to excuse and justify it. If that doesn't prove my point, I don't know what will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:22 AM |
| -4 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWI already explained in the post that even without the shortage comment, her behavior is very controlling and borderline abusive. The added context doesn't change all that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:21 AM |
| 1 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWI already explained that even without the added context of the shortages, her behavior is very controlling and borderline abusive. It doesn't change all that much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:19 AM |
| 3 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWSo by your logic, when a rich man marries a woman who doesn't work, the man gets to unilaterally decide on every purchase and major life decision. It's ok for him to dictate that she can't buy any clothes or food or makeup unless he's onboard with it. If she disagrees, she should take accountability and work to pay for her own stuff. Correct? Or are you just a misandrist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:15 AM |
| 8 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWThe commenters are modern women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:12 AM |
| 0 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWFlip the genders and it will most definitely NOT be the same. Politics and sex are intertwined; misandry and Trump derangement syndrome go hand in hand. If the genders were reversed, nobody would be circlejerking over the wife wanting to take away the husband's "human rights". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:11 AM |
| 5 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWThis is in the controversial section of the comments where naturally the people who go against the grain are going to flock. Most comments in that section are YTA and responses agreeing to it, because all the supporters just circlejerk under the top comments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:10 AM |
| -9 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWNo one gives a crap about the one shitty woman in the post. The issue I raised is about the RESPONSE to her post. All the top-voted comments are unequivocally supporting her and devolving into a deranged man-hating, Trump-bashing circlejerk, which echoes the dominant sentiment among modern women. But of course you didn't even bother to read to that part. Never change Reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 03:01 AM |
| 2 | A case study on why dating is absolutely horrible for men and all men should go MGTOWHe needs meds too. The OP stated in the original post that even when the husband wanted to move just his insurance, she wouldn't let him. The fact that it was her who had faced the shortage doesn't change much; it gives him good reason to fear that he'll also face shortages. Once again, leveraging your superior financial position to deny your partner from making his own healthcare decisions, when he has a good reason to while your reason is just politics, is financial abuse. And for some strange… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/25 02:55 AM |
| 0 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.I already addressed in my post that due to technological advancement, economic egalitarianism is more feasible. The post is talking about how social and political egalitarianism weakens society and is unsustainable long-term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Are all or most women attracted to women?Do you think you find a woman who's basically a "beautiful version" of you more aesthetically appealing than a woman who's objectively beautiful but looks nothing like you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 02:40 PM |
| 1 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.Don't worry, as a young man in progressive spaces, I'm used to keeping my head down and accepting my place as a second-class citizen. It's not so bad once you get used to the powerlessness and disenfranchisement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 01:56 PM |
| -3 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.Greatness is indeed domination, because domination is necessary for survival. If your nation can't win wars, it's inherently not sustainable and therefore not great. If you don't conquer and don't innovate, eventually you'll get conquered. Slavery, child labor, and colonialism were indeed good for a strong, stable society centuries ago. Technological advancement is what removed the economic benefit of slavery and child labor, otherwise we'd still have it today. Colonialism is still good; decolon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 01:51 PM |
| 1 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.Yes, children is the right comparison. I've always been irritated by comparisons of the treatment of women with that of property or slaves. I'd hesitate to equate infantilization with oppression though. If you view oppression one-dimensionally through the axis of power (like feminists do) then yes it's oppression, but I strongly dislike that definition. It's extremely reductive and essentially serves as a setup for the motte and bailey every feminist does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 01:37 PM |
| -3 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.Lmao, I'm a racial minority. I'd be a second class citizen in the 50s and 60s too. I never advocated for going back to that time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 01:32 PM |
| 1 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.No one is arguing for anyone losing rights. You don't automatically lose rights in a patriarchy, it just means the culture is set up so that men hold most of the institutional power. The equivalent is if it was proven that multiculturalism is bad, and America is better off under white supremacy and "WASP monoculture". As a minority I'd be a bit sad but I'd understand, and I'd work hard to assimilate to white culture and prove myself nonetheless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 01:29 PM |
| 1 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.I am talking about social/political egalitarianism, not economic, like I already said in the post. And third wave feminism did NOT have real political/institutional power just after the Cold War. Not until the late 2000s at least. The US has indeed been stagnating on the world stage and becoming less stable/cohesive since the 2010s. That's a reality. US soft power is nowhere near as strong as in the 1990s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 01:21 PM |
| 0 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.I admit that American society as a whole is what feminists define to be a patriarchy (men have more institutional power collectively), though that's gradually changing. However, many subcultures are not "patriarchal"; particularly, in elite culture (which controls academia, art, and mainstream media), women are more powerful than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 01:01 PM |
| 1 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.I think there is a similar argument to be made for other inequalities too, mainly racial inequality, though I think it's less strong. You can argue that widespread multiculturalism is bad for society, and there should be one dominant race/culture (while other races are somewhat "second class" and must assimilate). That's definitely a claim I'm open to, even as a racial minority myself. But this argument is much weaker than the gender one because racial differences are far less pronounced than ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 12:39 PM |
| 0 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.Once again, egalitarianism is what created wokeness, and woke immigration policies led to the influx of third world migrants. I'm not talking about the UK a state here, I'm talking about the UK as a culture (usually I don't have to make this distinction, but when it's "conquering from the inside", I do). British culture is being conquered by third world patriarchal culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 12:29 PM |
| -1 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.American ascendance does not correlate with feminism. It might correlate with the academic development of feminism, but does not with feminism's social/political power, which is what matters. American was indeed most powerful in the past and then stagnated as feminism gained power. America's peak power was just after WWII and just after the collapse of the USSR. Both these times, feminism had little to no political power; even up to the early 2000s, the US was very socially conservative. Ever si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 12:24 PM |
| 0 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.That's the point.... I explained to you that egalitarianism is the ROOT CAUSE for why those immigrants were allowed in. Hence, the egalitarian society is getting conquered by a patriarchal culture. What are you not getting here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 12:14 PM |
| 0 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.A statement does not imply its converse. I said ONLY patriarchies are sustainable in the long run. Not that ALL patriarchies are sustainable. And why don't we take a look at Europe. The UK has been overrun by third world migrants, who have lots of kids and will eventually replace the native population. Why did this happen? Because of woke immigration policies. Why did wokeness start? Because of egalitarianism (as explained in the article I linked). So you see the UK being conquered from the insi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:59 AM |
| 0 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.And what have these tribes invented or contributed? How powerful are they? I already said in the OP I'm talking about SUCCESSFUL CULTURES. Not random irrelevant tribes that haven't invented/contributed anything, created any kind of legacy, or achieved any kind of meaningful power. You can maintain a society with a weak culture if you're a tiny tribe that just wants to survive (and get lucky enough that no one decides to conquer you, which is the only reason the two tribes you mentioned exist). I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:44 AM |
| – | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.You seem to struggle a lot with reading and logic. Egalitarianism makes a country weaker and less stable. A country can only grow and maintain strength/stability under a patriarchy. THEREFORE, a country's that's already been made strong by patriarchy is the only one that can sustain egalitarianism for any extended amount of time. However, that is not forever- the country will eventually have to become patriarchal again or die out. That's what's happening to the US- previously made strong by patr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:39 AM |
| -4 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.What about it doesn't make sense? Once a country's become strong and stable, it can afford to have a culture that makes it weaker and less stable. A weak country that seeks to survive must have a culture that maximizes its strength/stability, or it'll get conquered or collapse. Also, just LOL at China being egalitarian. Economically, maybe, but socially and politically, no. Look up the top ranking members of the Chinese government- how many woman are there? Finally, like I explained, the US rose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:35 AM |
| 0 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.So why has every culture that's become a great power or made major contributions been a patriarchy? Can you name a single egalitarian or matriarchal culture that satisfies this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:30 AM |
| 1 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.I already acknowledged that ECONOMICALLY, the optimal equilibrium is much more egalitarian than historically, due to technological advancement. But that equilibrium is still on the patriarchal side. Now, socially and politically, nothing has inherently changed; social and political egalitarianism will fail for the same reasons it has before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:27 AM |
| 2 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.That's not the patriarchy. In patriarchal societies men hold institutional power, but women are often still VALUED more inherently. Historically in western patriarchies, women are inherently valued more so they receive protection and provision, while men are inherently disposable but valued for their economic contribution- hence less protection but greater autonomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:23 AM |
| 1 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.When I was writing that line I was thinking of the Weimar Republic, which had grown feminized and degenerate, and was overthrown by the Nazi regime. Your first point is interesting. I'm actually not sure that cultural feminization is INHERENTLY authoritarian. In fact, I don think authoritarianism is inherently gendered at all, just look at all the patriarchal kingdoms/dictatorships throughout history. I thought a bit more about it and I'd actually put cultures on a 2x2 axis of masculine/feminine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 11:19 AM |
| -16 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.Learn the difference between correlation and causation. As I explained, the correlation exists because prosperous societies are the only ones that can AFFORD egalitarianism, because egalitarianism weakens society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 10:42 AM |
| -2 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.No it was definitely not. Throughout history, nearly every single great innovation in science and technology was made by men; there's only a tiny number of exceptions. During the most innovative period of the US, around 1870-1970, America was definitively patriarchal. Therefore evidence that innovation has been slowing the past few decades. And no one claimed that "patriarchy -> great society". The claim was that a great society must be patriarchal. The converse of a true statement is not necess… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 10:38 AM |
| -9 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.The vast majority of modern inventions and innovations have been created by men. Funnily enough, innovation has been slowing down the past few decades. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 10:32 AM |
| -4 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.We are in the most peaceful time in history due to the explosion in economic productivity from technological advancement. This technological advancement was primarily driven by male innovation and engineering. Also, the Roman Empire's fall WAS in large part due to its liberalization. Just not liberalization to the point of complete gender equality, because that was never feasible economically back then. Finally, yes every society falls. But some societies make great contributions and become very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 10:28 AM |
| -14 | The patriarchy is good. Every single successful society in history has been patriarchal, and non-patriarchal societies are doomed to fail.Read the article I linked. Relative to men, women care much more about protecting feelings and promoting social justice than protecting rational inquiry and the free exchange of ideas. There's been multiple studies backing this up. Moreover, women tend to use emotional manipulation, particularly in the form of self-victimization (this is the "female tears" part), to gain social power and shut down discourse, which society hasn't figured out how to address. Meanwhile, the male equivalent- invokin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 10:23 AM |
| 2 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?I'm not asking for advice on how to approach. Please read my post again, I'm making a point about the practical implications of stigmatizing approaching and asking women if this is really what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 10:13 PM |
| 0 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?You're taking it for granted that women would rather have ONLY creeps approach them than also having normal guys to balance out the creeps. I don't think that's something you can automatically assume, so that's part of the question I outlined in the OP. But I've yet to see women here actually addressing my questions instead of going on their own personal soapbox. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 10:11 PM |
| 6 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?What a bizarre rant. I have idea how you went from my post to this weird imaginary conversation you made up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 09:56 PM |
| 0 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?Funny how you completely left out the middle part, where I was explaining that the practical implications are that only creeps approach now. I was asking women if this id the outcome they want, and if not, why they keep making approaching taboo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 09:55 PM |
| 8 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?No, I've absolutely seen tons of women shaming men for approaching at all. The typical rhetoric is something like "Women just want to be left alone and you aren't entitled to our time. The fact that you dare approach us in the first place shows your gall and entitlement from cishet male privilege. We WILL be mean to you if you approach us because you aren't entitled to women's kindness." This is honestly a pretty tame phrasing, the usual rhetoric is much more vicious than this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?Again I'm not talking about sparing anyone's individual feelings. I'm making the point that collectively, when you stigmatize approaching, the respectful guys stop doing it and only the creeps keep doing it, so now 100% of the guys approaching you are creeps. So the question I was asking is whether this is the outcome women really want, and if not, then why they stigmatize approaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 09:46 PM |
| 4 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?Did you read what I was saying? I was talking about the practical implication of mass shaming approaching / making it taboo. When approaching women in public becomes taboo, the normal guys stop doing it and only the creeps will still do it. So now every guy who approaches you is a creep, and if you want this to change, you have to unstigmatize approaching women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 09:43 PM |
| 13 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?Isn't that quite literally what I'm talking about though? when approaching women in public becomes taboo, the normal guys stop doing it and only the creeps will still do it. So now every guy who approaches you is a creep, and if you want this to change, you have to unstigmatize approaching women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 09:41 PM |
| 6 | Why do you shame men for approaching women?I'm not talking about this subreddit, I mean the internet/Reddit in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 09:37 PM |
| – | How is it finding a therapist for you?This is not politics. Patriarchy theory, which posits that men are privileged due to institutionalized male power, is accepted as hard fact in all social science fields. Obviously a psychologist will work based off the theories they're taught. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 03:15 PM |
| – | How is it finding a therapist for you?The stuff I mentioned is literally gender studies 101. And I'm referring to the FIELD of psychology, which you can make judgements on by observing what kind of papers get published. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 03:11 PM |
| 8 | Q4RP: Are men really more emotionally resilient than women?Why do you think your personal experience on this matters at all when you literally work at a STRIP CLUB? Do you think the guys coming here are normal guys under normal circumstances? This is beyond parody man 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 03:04 PM |
| – | How is it finding a therapist for you?How do I know what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 02:59 PM |
| – | How is it finding a therapist for you?The field approaches things from a female perspective, in large part because the vast majority of practitioners are female. Its infusion of feminist theory is the perfect example. Intersectional feminism is an extremely female way to view the world- analyzing every social issue through the lens of an extreme reductive identitarian oppression/victimhood framework while refusing to acknowledge any sort of personal agency. But rather than taking feminist theory for what it is- an ideology / worldvi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 02:55 PM |
| – | How is it finding a therapist for you?Men generally face far greater struggle finding a suitable therapist than women. That's just the natural result of a field becoming completely feminized and ideologically captured. The blue collar construction worker struggling to put food on the table doesn't want to pay $200/hr to hear an upper middle class white woman lecture him on how his problems are because of "institutional male privilege" and how needs to deconstruct his "patriarchal misogynistic values". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 02:34 PM |
| – | How is it finding a therapist for you?I don't plan on finding a therapist because therapy is absolutely worthless in its current form. The entire field of psychology itself is thoroughly feminized and ideologically captured; for any somewhat normal man, therapy will be a complete scam and waste of money. Just think of it this way. Being a good therapist requires you to have a rational, consistent view of the world, and extremely good logical reasoning abilities. Anyone who DOES have this set of traits will make much more money doing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/25 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many women on here say they have lower physical standards for casual sex despite pretty much every study and most people's lived experiences saying otherwise?You have it mistaken. Being under the influence lowers women's inhibitions but not standards. In other words, "beer goggles" makes women more willing to hook up with Chad, but it won't make her feel attracted to an ugly guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/25 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Women live life on easy mode.You can watch it in your browswr | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 12:06 PM |
| -2 | Women live life on easy mode.Lmao. That's like having sympathy for Elon Musk's financial struggles. Any "dating struggle" a woman faces is 100% on them and them alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 06:26 AM |
| 3 | Women live life on easy mode.https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGwY1dLxNpE/?igsh=aHFwMDkyOHRkaXVk This is a prime example of the standards of a modern woman. Do you think a woman can make a post like this without being excessively coddled and spoiled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Women live life on easy mode.Just go ahead and say you don't know how definitions work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 06:07 AM |
| 2 | Women live life on easy mode.Just like how technically, "incel" includes any guy who's involuntarily celibate. And a "nice guy" is any guy who's nice. Right? Do you know how definitions work? Once again. "Modern western woman" has a specific meaning- it means women caught up with the western cultural zeitgeist. These women are overwhelmingly young and in liberal cities. How many times do I have to explain this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 06:07 AM |
| 0 | Women live life on easy mode.Yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 04:17 AM |
| -2 | Women live life on easy mode.Sorry about your early life. But I will say it's an exception, most attractive western women have been spoiled and coddled throughout their whole childhood. Think of the classic bitchy, entitled sorority "mean girl". I'm surprised that you are socially ostracized though. Women generally make friends with each other extremely easily, especially if they are pretty (due to halo effect). You should also be able to make male friends easily, even those not trying to have sex with you. I'm not sure of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 04:05 AM |
| -11 | Women live life on easy mode.Tell her to marry an extremely rich guy. Life won't be so hard on a megayacht and private jet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 04:00 AM |
| 3 | Women live life on easy mode.Oh wow a small typo. You got me.You are so smart for catching that!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:47 AM |
| 2 | Women live life on easy mode.You are the one making zero sense. Nowhere am I arguing about money being a primary factor for getting women. Are you high or something? My argument is that women can easily marry a rich guy, so they can easily become financially set. I literally recapped the thread in my last comment. Wtf are you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Women live life on easy mode.Look up the "woman are wonderful effect". It's backed up by a ton of studies. Here's another clear example: https://legaltalknetwork.com/blog/2023/04/falsely-accused-the-brian-banks-story/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:33 AM |
| 3 | Women live life on easy mode.Wtf are you talking about? "Money is a leading factor" is something I never said and you just made up... wtf? Read the thread again; I'll recap it since you seem to struggle with reading comprehension and are apparently schizophrenic. My claim: Women live life on easy mode, in part because you can become financially set by dating a rich guy. You: It's not that easy to date a rich guy Me: Lots of rich guys are desperate, so yes it is that easy. Which part of this simple logic do you not understan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:31 AM |
| 6 | Women live life on easy mode.No, these are often funded by the government or corporations, both of which mainly make money from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:25 AM |
| 6 | Women live life on easy mode.Seriously? You think a 2:1 bias ratio can be explained away by "the female applicants are stronger than the male ones"? How about this stat: around 20-30% of male USAMO qualifiers are accepted to MIT, while it's 90+% for female ones. Anyone familiar with college admissions knows it's a fact that top STEM programs hold female applicants to a far lower standard than male applicants. I can't believe you're trying to debate this. I guarantee you in the actual lawsuit when the data is released, it'll… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:23 AM |
| 4 | Women live life on easy mode.?? These guys being so desperate is evidence that women can easily marry a high earning guy. What's there not to get? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:12 AM |
| 4 | Women live life on easy mode.So explain to me how so many guys making mid 6 figures have rock bottom standards but still can't get a date to save their life. You just have to find one of these guys and ask him out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:09 AM |
| 3 | Women live life on easy mode.Did you read my comment? I gave you an example of an actual top school, MIT, blatantly discriminating against men. Other top programs like Caltech, CMU SCS, Berkeley EECS, etc do the same. You gave me an irrelevant liberal arts colleges not even in the top 50, proving my point exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:07 AM |
| 0 | Women live life on easy mode.Have you tried dating a rich guy? Or sugar dating, that's free money for you. Did you know that many women are "platonic sugar babies", meaning they just get free money for being friends with a man. Some are even "online platonic sugar babies". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:04 AM |
| 9 | Women live life on easy mode.https://fairadmissionsmit.org/here-are-the-facts/ Lol, say that again? Affirmative action for women absolutely exists, especially for STEM programs at top universities. Back in high school I did math/physics olympiads, and results that would barely register on a man's application would essentially auto-admit women into top schools. There's also all kinds of scholarships, programs, etc for women. Affirmative action for men only happens at irrelevant liberal arts colleges that men (rightfully) hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 03:00 AM |
| -1 | Women live life on easy mode.Middle class westerners generally have never struggled to get any of these. also, even in third world countries where people struggle for these, socializing and sex/relationships are an extremely important part of life (arguably even more than in the west sometimes, since we focus so much on school/career) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:54 AM |
| -2 | Women live life on easy mode.Nope. Pretty and wealthy women have additional privileges; my post is about FEMALE privilege, and it's based on average, normal women. I mean, seriously, are you really going to deny that normal, everyday women can have an abundant social and romantic life with zero effort at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:51 AM |
| -3 | Women live life on easy mode.A lot of women do struggle with self-awareness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:39 AM |
| -17 | Women live life on easy mode.This is the real world. Sorry you're too blind and unaware to see it. Even as a "low value woman", every single point on the list applies to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Women live life on easy mode.Triggered by the truth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:35 AM |
| -3 | Women live life on easy mode.Well, slave owners weren't able to avoid being killed by their literal slaves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:35 AM |
| 0 | Women live life on easy mode.I mean, yes, that's how social power works. Social power means you have influence over normal people who abide by social norms, but you don't have influence over psychopaths who don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:34 AM |
| -1 | Women live life on easy mode.Funny how this "underclass" of women can still hop on yachts and private jets with a quick Instagram DM | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Women live life on easy mode.You're conflating meaningful, institutional power with everyday social power. The latter (which is what I was talking about in my post) is very much aligned with privilege, the former isn't. "Live life on easy mode" is about privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:32 AM |
| 4 | Women live life on easy mode.Pregnancy, childbirth, caregiving, or any other traditional gendered social expectations are completely optional for women. You know that these days, "childless cat lady" is a badge of honor that women proudly wear? There's zero social pressure anymore for women to partner up or have kids. As for your last paragraph I'm honestly glad things are this way. The west has made its bed, now let us lie in it. I hope to see the complete collapse of western civilization in the coming decades- we can be a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:30 AM |
| 2 | Women live life on easy mode.Privilege is not equivalent to "real, meaningful power". You can be extremely privileged despite having no institutional power. My post id about privilege. And I believe women absolutely DO have plenty of "real, meaningful power", but that's a separate complex debate not relevant to the one on privilege. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:21 AM |
| -3 | Women live life on easy mode.Do you know what "e.g." means? I am saying cities LIKE those. Again, "modern western woman" has a specific definition and doesn't mean any woman in the west, just like how "incel" doesn't literally mean "involuntary celibate". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:15 AM |
| 2 | Women live life on easy mode.I did specify in my post in the literal first sentence- I am talking about "modern western women". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:12 AM |
| 0 | Women live life on easy mode.Ok? Feminism is not even a thing in the majority of the world but that's not what we're talking about. Once again, I'm only talking about "modern western women", and that means millennial/GenZ women in liberal urban areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:11 AM |
| -17 | Women live life on easy mode.Yeah obviously. I'm talking exclusively about "modern western women", which is referring to millenials/genZ in cities like NYC/LA, not boomers in rural Kansas. You might as well bring up Afghan women being oppressed by the Taliban, that obviously has nothing to do with the conversation here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 02:05 AM |
| -3 | Women live life on easy mode.Yeah because there's lots of boomers around and conservatives in rural areas. I'm talking exclusively about young people in hyper-liberal cities, e.g NYC, LA, SF, Portland. If everyone voted like this demographic the Republican party would be gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 01:59 AM |
| -2 | Women live life on easy mode.All of these points are complete BS. Have you been frozen in time since 1950? Your second to last paragraph is so hilariously out of touch, nobody asks women to do any of those things. Even expecting your girlfriend to not flirt with other men is now "controlling" and "misogynistic", let alone expecting her to perform traditional gender roles. And that list of questions... yeah, absolutely, hilariously, out of touch. In 2025, "childless feminist cat lady" is a badge of honor that women proudly w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 01:56 AM |
| 4 | Women live life on easy mode.Women are respected much more than men. It's basically impossible for a woman to be viewed as a loser, while tons of men are viewed as losers for not having a good job, or not having a friend group, or being ugly or short, or a billion other things. There's no one who's disrespected more than a low value man. Pregnancy and childbirth are completely optional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 01:50 AM |
| -8 | Women live life on easy mode.The real world, in any highly liberal big city. Obviously I'm not talking about conservative backwaters populated by boomers and rednecks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 01:47 AM |
| 4 | Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonableWhat a garbage load of nonsense. Men aren't looking for women in similar economic positions because they have low standards and are taught to be generous/giving, while women have high standards and are taught to be selfish/entitled. It's absolutely insane how feminists try to paint every single moral virtue men demonstrate over women as actually a moral failure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/25 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Expecting a partner to at least be in a similar economic position as you is entirely reasonableNobody is giving women flack for wanting a man of similar economic status, wtf? That's not hypergamy and never was. What IS hypergamy is wanting a man of vastly superior social/economic status, and what women do get flack for is acting ENTITLED to such a man. Nobody is criticizing a woman for saying "I'd prefer a man who makes 6 figures just like me". She gets criticized for saying "if you don't make 6 figures and pay all my bills, you're a little broke boy and not a real man". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/25 01:45 AM |
| 4 | How comes jocks and street boys don't get the "inc*l" label?You chose the worst possible picture of him. Here is his wikipedia photo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/USAFA_Hosts_Elon_Musk_%28Image_1_of_17%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/220px-USAFA_Hosts_Elon_Musk_%28Image_1_of_17%29_%28cropped%29.jpg He looks pretty normal, and imo above average for his age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 11:42 PM |
| 8 | How comes jocks and street boys don't get the "inc*l" label?Elon Musk gets called an incel all the time. Which statements along those lines has he made? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 10:57 PM |
| 10 | How comes jocks and street boys don't get the "inc*l" label?Why do married men with kids who clearly have no problems getting women still get called incels? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 10:12 PM |
| 25 | How comes jocks and street boys don't get the "inc*l" label?Why does Elon Musk, a guy with 10+ kids from several different woman, and who literally dated Amber Heard, get called an incel? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/25 10:10 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.It led to thousands of men enlisting. Aka, committing suicide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:41 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.Learn some basic history. Ever heard of the white feather campaign? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:33 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.A small fraction of men hate women while a large fraction of women hate men. However, men are more likely to express their hatred through physical violence while women are more likely to do so through social violence. It's just that the former is more gruesome and easier to become outraged over so they're amplified by the media. For example, tiny, isolated cases like Elliot Rodger and Junk Furata are still brought up constantly to inflame female outrage. But what about the incident, less than a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:27 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.Well women will never stop hating men, so the alternative is for women to hate men and for men to just meekly take it. No thanks, I'd prefer mutual hatred. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:14 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.Copy/paste: The difference between passport bro and betabux is what you receive in return. When you passport bro, you get sex and companionship from a nice/friendly woman (even if she's faking it). Once you head back to your home country, you leave any baggage behind. When you betabux, you get treated like shit, dead bedroomed, cheated on, and divorced, and the woman will be cheered on by all her feminist friends for fighting the patriarchy. Maybe she'll throw a false accusation or two in there,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 12:36 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.We want to because we've been conditioned by the gynocracy to crave female validation, but for those of us who are unattractive, we can't get it the normal way. So naturally the solution is to pay. And no, that doesn't necessitate seeing women as subhuman. Tbh, I've come to realize another good reason though- by flipping the power dynamics, you get to treat the woman just as horribly as they treat men on a daily basis, and really teach them a lesson this way. I see this as a form of resistance a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 12:23 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.There has never been a time in history where men have displayed to women the sheer hatred and vitriol that women show to men today. Fortunately with the growing influence of Trump, Tate and the manosphere, maybe we'll see a change in GenZ. I dream of the day when young men have the balls to be unapologetic misogynists and fight back against the systemic misandry they experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 12:16 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.I said it INVERTS the typical power dynamic. So you agree that in normal relationships, the woman has power over the man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 12:12 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.The difference between passport bro and betabux is what you receive in return. When you passport bro, you get sex and companionship from a nice/friendly woman (even if she's faking it). Once you head back to your home country, you leave any baggage behind. When you betabux, you get treated like shit, dead bedroomed, cheated on, and divorced, and the woman will be cheered on by all her feminist friends for fighting the patriarchy. Maybe she'll throw a false accusation or two in there, and now you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 12:09 PM |
| 2 | Why are women uncomfortable (or refuse) to date virgin menYep, I've been arguing this for a long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Why are women uncomfortable (or refuse) to date virgin menDo you identify as a feminist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 10:56 AM |
| 0 | Why are women uncomfortable (or refuse) to date virgin menNow if you interviewed 100 women and asked them if they believed we lived in a patriarchy in which men collectively oppress women, all men are privileged, and social/political "gender reparations" are necessary, 90 out of those 100 women will say yes. If you asked them the man vs bear question, at least 70 or 80 will say yes. Now tell me again about how the gender war is just an online thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 10:54 AM |
| 1 | I have a weakly held view that many red-pillers underestimate the success of the average man because they overuse dating apps, and there are tractable ways of improving their luck.Typical female behavior. This is why I'll never approach a western woman in my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Why are women uncomfortable (or refuse) to date virgin menThat culture you're referring to is degenerate, yes. Doesn't change the fact that western culture is too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 08:18 AM |
| 4 | Highly promiscuous societies are often good for Low SMV menLOL, that makes sense. I used to be in somewhat rat/EA spaces (still kind of am, since their so closely tied to AI safety) and even went to a rat-adjacent high school camp (SPARC, if you've heard of it). The thing is, in these communities the same social dynamics apply as in another community- status is king, and low-status men are screwed. It's just that looks play less of a role in this community's status; that doesn't make the status competition any less vicious or the low status men any less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 08:14 AM |
| – | Why are women uncomfortable (or refuse) to date virgin menAm I reading this right? At 15 years old you had already slept with (which is what I'm assuming "fooled around with" is a euphemism for) MULTIPLE virgin guys?? Western degeneracy truly knows no bounds... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 05:54 AM |
| -1 | What fraction of men around you (in your age range) do you find attractive?No. The difference is in this case you're looking good to please someone else, not just for the sake of your own pride. On the other hand, obsessing either your partner looking good (beyond the threshold of attraction) is indeed vanity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:49 AM |
| 2 | What fraction of men around you (in your age range) do you find attractive?You've never once sat down for a few minutes and intentionally people-watched? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:47 AM |
| 1 | What fraction of men around you (in your age range) do you find attractive?Once again, "find 90% of women around me attractive" does NOT mean "notice 90% of women around me AND find them attractive". It means "of the women around me, 90% WOULD be attractive to me IF I was noticing them". Everyone ignores strangers when going about their day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:46 AM |
| 1 | What fraction of men around you (in your age range) do you find attractive?Nobody is. Men also don't notice most strangers. So I'm asking this under the hypothetical of IF you are intentionally noticing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:44 AM |
| -1 | What fraction of men around you (in your age range) do you find attractive?Can't relate. Sounds like vanity to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:43 AM |
| 0 | What fraction of men around you (in your age range) do you find attractive?If you don't care for men anymore, who don't you purposely make yourself ugly so you don't get approached anymore? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:34 AM |
| 1 | What fraction of men around you (in your age range) do you find attractive?I mean I agree that most people are just normal looking and I don't pay attention to them, but I find "normal looking" to be attractive. There's a lot of women I find attractive that I don't notice/are invisible to me, obviously I'm not paying attention towards the vast majority of female strangers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:29 AM |
| – | Is there any real obsession with AOC among conservative men?I don't see conservatives obsessed with her at all. She had a few moments in the spotlight a long time ago but now she's just a meme. It seems like liberals are the ones REALLY obsessed with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/25 09:46 PM |
| 3 | What are your thoughts of prominent feminists in power who do things that men in power are chastised for when they do the same actions?Seriously? She's a top executive at Meta. Imagine if the same story came out about Mark Zuckerberg, you seriously don't think it'll be all over the front page? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/25 10:58 PM |
| 0 | Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality.Considering that Ukraine is literally kidnapping men off the street and sending them into the meat grinder, and yet still have full support from the left, I don't think abolishing the draft can successfully be used as a tool for gaining the moral high ground in an actual war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/25 12:55 AM |
| -1 | Q4W who identify with feminism. Are there any priveleges that mostly benefit women you’re advocating to give up in the name of equality.Ah yes, trickle down feminism. That has worked so well. "Hey men, just keep your heads down, don't complain or speak a word, just accept living in the shadows of women. We're gonna keep shitting on you while giving women more privileges to dismantle the patriarchy. One day in the far future it's going to trickle back down to you..." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/25 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?Why does a sexual comment automatically make you feel objectified though? He could be just giving you a sexual compliment while still wanting to get to know you as a person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 11:40 PM |
| 23 | Majority of "misandrists" are men.Obviously male rapists are an unavoidable constant. In a population of 4 billion, there are bound to be complete psychopaths. Female rapists are also an unavoidable constant. What exactly are you trying to say here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 10:28 PM |
| 0 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?Did you bother to read my comment? Looks like you totally missed the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 10:23 PM |
| -1 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?Here's the difference. The manosphere is a tiny, fringe group whose views would get any man shunned in real life. Meanwhile misandrist "femcel" views are not only extremely common in real life but institutionalized into government, corporations, etc. To put it this way. TRP represents maybe 1% of men irl, while TwoX represents 50% of women irl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 10:12 PM |
| -1 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?Wow, multiple men on a Redpill internet forum said some misogynistic things. That's crazy. Now how many men in real life have said that to you? Also about your second sentence, you know that's literally what men hear on a daily basis right? Women everywhere are saying "we have our own money now, what do we need a man for?", "you're not a real man if you don't provide and pay for everything", etc, implying that all men have to offer is money. This is literally objectifying men and reducing them t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?1) Nobody is saying she's obligated to consider it. She's perfectly ok to ignore it. But there's no reason to consider it objectifying or degrading. 2) That is an absolutely absurd take. Asking a woman out isn't telling her you want to put your penis inside her and only care about how your penis feels (WTF?), it's telling her find her physically attractive so you want to spend time with her to get to know her better as a person. That's the opposite of objectifying or degrading. I have no clue wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/25 10:02 PM |
| -15 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?And generally "views that are harmful to women" means anything that goes against the woke feminist agenda- for example, the idea thatwomen can enjoy sexualization by their own volition without being conditioned into it by the evil patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 04:57 PM |
| -2 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?I mean yeah, those do come off as inappropriate since they're demanding you to make a sexual display for them. But the scenario I'm talking about is a guy compliments you sexually, like "wow you're so hot", or asks you out. These are the typical situations in which women complain about feeling degraded by male sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 04:42 PM |
| -1 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?Do you view unrestrained female sexuality the same way? And sure I agree with your last point. But do you think that a man expressing his sexuality via making a sexual compliment (e.g. "wow you're so hot") or asking a woman out makes it objectifying/degrading?These are the main contexts I'm referring to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 04:36 PM |
| -1 | Why do you view male sexuality as inherently objectifying and degrading?It's not a "bad argument". If approached sexually or romantically by an unattractive woman (or even a gay man), most men would appreciate it and not feel objectified/degraded at all. You never see men reacting badly to an ugly girl asking them out. If this doesn't apply to you, you're the exception not the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Manosphere is cool when women do itI love Instagram reels. So many based guys not afraid to say misogynistic things, unlike the cucked soyboys on reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 03:54 PM |
| 2 | Manosphere is cool when women do itYou're half right. Yes, there will be no female equivalent of the manosphere, because the manosphere is a fringe group with no institutional power. The ideological equivalent of the manosphere- feminism- has actual structural and institutional power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Manosphere is cool when women do itI've seen full comment sections of women cheering on the male suicide epidemic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 03:49 PM |
| -1 | The Sexual Diversity Movement is a Cultural InvasionI don't think it's garbage. My understanding is that he's arguing that we need to approach the topic of sex/gender with some consideration of cultural relativity and epistemic humility, rather than attempting to elevate western sociological theory to the status of hard fact. That's pretty reasonable to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 03:35 PM |
| 3 | Why do girls invest so much into their looks, but hate to be complimented about it?We are talking about compliments though. Not dating. If a girl said, "Wow that's a nice car, you must be so rich", no guy would take offense to that. I don't get your reverse analogy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Why do girls invest so much into their looks, but hate to be complimented about it?Sounds like you have some weird complex then. Any normal guy would love to be complimented on being rich, handsome, or tall, whether it's from a man or a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 03:28 PM |
| 0 | The Sexual Diversity Movement is a Cultural InvasionThe latter. My understanding is that he's arguing that we need to approach the topic of sex/gender with some consideration of cultural relativity and epistemic humility, rather than attempting to elevate western sociological theory to the status of hard fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 02:57 PM |
| 0 | The Sexual Diversity Movement is a Cultural InvasionI only skimmed the post, but what I'm getting is this: it was western sociological theory that invented the concept of a "gender identity" that is separate from biological sex, and the movement to elevate this theory everywhere to the level of a hard fact is an assertion of western cultural superiority. I think I mostly agree with this, but I will also say, the most common response to your argument by progressives is that western culture IS superior in this area, and therefore this "cultural inv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 02:52 PM |
| 8 | The Sexual Diversity Movement is a Cultural InvasionI've never heard of this term either. But based on the OP, he is referring to the concept of gender identity being separate from biological sex, and the movement to force people to accept this idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 02:37 PM |
| 0 | Q4BP: When was the first US case of a woman charged with rape of her cohabiting husband?Yep, it's very telling of the misandry and double standards ingrained in our criminal justice system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/25 01:27 PM |
| 1 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menWhat exactly do you think "6 inches" is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 01:28 PM |
| -4 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menThere was a post in my state's subreddit the other day about a conservative protest. The comments section was filled with leftists calling for violence against the protesters, including running them over with vehicles and shooting them with guns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 01:27 PM |
| -1 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menNope. Even in nerdy/loser social circles the same social dynamics apply, often even more brutally. The high-status band leader is getting all the band girls while the quiet, awkward band guys are left aside. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 01:23 PM |
| -2 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menI'm sure quite a few did. Why would guys message you with no intention to meet up? You could also replicate the experiment yourself. Find the ugliest woman you know of, make a tinder profile and see what happens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 01:21 PM |
| -7 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menI don't think you're aware of just how far left the overton window has shifted. Being pro social safety nets and environmentalism isn't left wing lol, most conservatives even agree with it. Here's a good limtus test. Do you think Trump is a pro-Nazi fascist dictator? Do you think Elon Musk and all of the DOGE staff deserve to be executed for treason? Do you believe that every Trump voter is an uneducated, racist, misogynistic Nazi who deserves to be subjected to violence? Do you support mass sho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 01:17 PM |
| -8 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menAh yes another comment saying "hurr durr both sexes have good and bad people, you can't generalize!!!!" Fact is, women have much higher and more delusional perceptions of themselves and standards for who they date, period. Denying this fact is like denying that men are physically stronger than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 12:59 PM |
| -3 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menUnironically yes. Reddit is an American website on the internet created by America. This subreddit is centered on American gender dynamics; other countries are not relevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 12:53 PM |
| 1 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menYou know some of these interviews are in one continuous take to prove it's not cherry picked? And you are welcome to find me a street interview whose results are the other way around. But you can't. I don't need a double blinded peer reviewed scientific study to exercise basic pattern recognition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 12:51 PM |
| 2 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menThat seems pretty reasonable? A lot of this is just part of being a normal middle class guy from a Christian background. I don't see how you reconcile your first and last point though, considering the progressive left considers Christianity as inherently oppressive, misogynistic and evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 09:23 AM |
| -7 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menThat's a stupid trope not grounded in reality. In the real world, young men are very down on themselves and view themselves as worthless subhumans. Men this generation have thoroughly capitulated to the feminist cultural zeitgeist and view themselves as ugly, useless objects, only useful for utility and undeserving of love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 07:05 AM |
| -1 | Men should decenter women tooTo be clear I'm not racist and have nothing against black people. As I've stated, my perspective is informed primarily by the comments of black men in incel/manosphere communities, who DO have firsthand experience with the gender dynamics in the black community. Now you are correct that I've never spoken to a black woman in a personal capacity. So I'm curious about your take here. The black men in the manosphere are saying first, a lot of black women look up to ghetto culture (more so than black… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:56 AM |
| 1 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menI used to think that but now I think it's just a cope. People on the internet say what they really think but are too afraid to say irl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:39 AM |
| -4 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menLook up the pig woman experiment. Some incels created a fake dating profile of an ugly, obese woman, and even photoshopped her to make her looked like a pig. She still got tons of matches and messages with attractive guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:36 AM |
| -16 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menActually I think the internet obsession with humbling people is a great thing. This "obsession" is just a reaction to the shamelessness epidemic in America, especially among women, due to the erosion of social structures that enforce the social hierarchy. So you see a lot of people who don't know their place in the social hierarchy, or even worse, reject it altogether, and face no consequences for it. The internet is a great solution to this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:25 AM |
| -4 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menI've never had a friend group or a girlfriend. My arguments are based on observations from Reddit, Instagram reels and Tiktok. If anything I strongly believe this leads to a more accurate perspective, because I'm basing it on a diverse group of people and not my own bubble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:16 AM |
| -2 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menOr if you don't have a big enough dick. You need 6 inches minimum for "pornstar sex" with any girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:14 AM |
| -21 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menThat research is outdated and also heavily biased by boomers who didn't grow up during the current cultural zeitgeist. If you only survey men and women in the current16-22 range, you will certainly find the opposite. Also, the study you linked is from the UK. Only America is relevant here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:11 AM |
| 0 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menLet's say we have an obese woman with a stocky frame, unattractive face and no friends. That's definitely bottom 2%. You think she can't go to the club or Tinder and find a chad to have sex with her? Look up the pig woman experiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:05 AM |
| -9 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menThat's a weird mindset. All women have to do is rate themselves realistically and they won't get dunked on. Why is it humiliating to rate yourself realistically? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 06:02 AM |
| -6 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menWhy doesn't it make sense? Chad will fuck a bottom 2% woman. Why shouldn't a bottom 2% woman deserve to be with an ugly, awkward weirdo? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 05:59 AM |
| -10 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menThat research is long outdated and heavily biased by boomers who didn't grow up during the current cultural zeitgeist. If you only survey men and women in the 16-25 range, you will certainly find the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 05:57 AM |
| -11 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menUh what? You know that men are also rated on the 1-10 scale? I will never understand women's weird aversion to having their looks quantified when men's value is determined solely by women and quantified in a billion different ways (looks, height, dick size, money, etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 05:54 AM |
| -8 | "Lower your standards" is good advice for women but bad advice for menHas no argument so resorts to insults. Classic! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 05:46 AM |
| 0 | Men should decenter women tooHave you thought about why black males are this way? I'm not black but I can empathize with the predicament of black men. According to the "blackcels" I've spoken with, the situation is that black women are very hypergamous and overwhelmingly attracted only to the hypermasculine thug archetype, which leaves normal black men in the dust. They also engage in extreme promiscuity, have kids out of wedlock, and are very shameless and entitled. Honestly, this tracks with my own observations based on r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 05:01 AM |
| 3 | Men should decenter women tooThis just shows you don't understand the manosphere movement. It's a fringe counterculture that's entirely reactionary to the woke feminist establishment. If you don't want the manosphere to exist then maybe don't be blasting hatred and vitriol against men in the mainstream. Fresh and fit is just giving women a taste of their own medicine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 04:53 AM |
| 1 | What % of men fail to meet reasonable hygiene or grooming standards?What's wrong with not showering every day? If you live in a colder climate (e.g. the Northeast US) and don't exercise or go outside, you can go for several days in a row without showering with no issues. This is especially true for Asians since a lot of them don't have body odor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 02:41 PM |
| 45 | Would you be willing to g to forgo all casual sex if it meant dating went back to how it was before?Duh, the vast majority of men can't get casual sex anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 12:14 PM |
| – | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?Nobody is claiming that except the stupid strawman you made up. There's nothing wrong with not dating unattractive loser men. But there is something wrong with treating them like subhuman scum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/24 01:40 PM |
| 2 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?Cheering on their suicide and proclaiming they're worse than wild animals is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 08:34 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?Celebrating and gloating over the male suicide rate does make a woman sadistically misandrist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 08:33 PM |
| -1 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?How is it unhealthy? Men can find fulfillment through a successful career and friends/hobbies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:53 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?The difference is women DO get a free pass for missndry. It's an objective fact that misandry is tolerated in mainstream society while any hint of misogyny is shunned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:31 PM |
| -2 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?Funny how unattractive women can easily get loving boyfriends/husbands, often even out of their league, while unattractive men desperately want a woman in their league but end up living and dying alone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:29 PM |
| 2 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?Why do I have to be better than them when they get a free pass? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:24 PM |
| -5 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?How am I off base? This is quite literally how western progressive women behave | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:20 PM |
| 0 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?I'm talking about western progressive women who fervently subscribe to woke ideology. Which, where I live, might as well be all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:20 PM |
| -5 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?Not hate, just be negatively prejudiced against. And why isn't it healthy? The solution is just to avoid forming any personal connections with women, and instead focus on your career, hobbies, and male friendships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:18 PM |
| 0 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?First sentence of wikipedia: Misogyny (/mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls So I'm right. Yes misogyny can take the extreme form of hating every single woman in the world, but I'm referring to the milder form of being prejudiced against women as a group. Note that "prejudice" is a much weaker word than "hate". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:10 PM |
| -2 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?It's literally not. First sentence of wikipedia: Misogyny (/mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls So I'm right. Yes misogyny can take the extreme form of hating every single woman in the world, but I'm referring to the milder form of being prejudiced against women as a group (while still recognizing some women don't fit it). Note that "prejudice" is a much weaker word than "hate". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:08 PM |
| -4 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?Being a misogynist doesn't mean hating all women. it's having negative prejudices towards women as a group. And I think this is a justified reaction imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:02 PM |
| -12 | What's wrong with being misogynistic? Why SHOULDN'T men become misogynists?Women are already extremely misandrist. Misogyny is just a natural and justified reaction, like I explained. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you think it's sexist/misogynistic/problematic for a man to fully avoid and decenter women?Safety in this case would be social safety, not physical safety. If a man attacks you at least you can fight back, but if a woman decided to falsely accuse you of SA, you're absolutely done for. Even if she does something not as drastic, such as spreading rumors that you're a creep, you're faced with immediate ostracization from your social circle. As a man, I can certainly fight a man physically, but socially, a woman has absolute power over me. This holds true for app men except the really pop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you think it's sexist/misogynistic/problematic for a man to fully avoid and decenter women?Do you think women choosing the bear is sexist then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/24 06:12 PM |
| 3 | If Cinderella is the fairytale of a low SMV woman capturing a top 20% man. Then what is male equivalent fairytale for men's struggles?When you say that you're upper class and he's middle class, what kind of income brackets / family backgrounds are you referring to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/24 07:16 PM |
| – | Q4W: was there a point to feminism raising awareness about female beauty standards?The point is to add fuel to the endless cycle of female self-victimization and externalize the blame for toxic femininity onto the "patriarchy". This provides women with even greater power in modern day victim culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 12:05 PM |
| 1 | What would actually make a positive change for you men?The end of the cultural dominance of feminism and wokeness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 11:54 AM |
| – | Society cannot fix dating. Any fix massively impedes the human right to not be touched by somebody you don’t want touching you intimately.This has been the 100 bilionth time this exact same post has been made. Why are you still "debating" this? This is already a settled issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 11:22 AM |
| 3 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Most probably weren't. The ones who murdered innocent British people/loyalists for no reason certainly were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 03:48 AM |
| -2 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Yes. But in this case, the "con" is being a completely normal person. So you don't know when you get conned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 03:44 AM |
| 0 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?if a normal looking person is complaining about their lack of luck in love How do you know they're normal looking? What does that leave? A ton of things. Maybe they're too short, or not rich enough, or simply don't have the natural magnetism/charisma, etc. Maybe they are normal but they're in an environment where being normal simply isn't enough. But more importantly, when a guy says, "I can't date girls because I'm bad looking/short and women care a lot about looks/height", you believe him. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 03:12 AM |
| 4 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Ok. So a literal violent murderer, who murdered an innocent father of two kids in cold blood, "doesn't have a shitty personality". Meanwhile, you still think that you have a well-functioning personality detector. The jokes write themselves man😂😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 03:08 AM |
| -1 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?I find it very brave of you to assume that most of these dudes can code switch effectively I find it very reasonable actually. A lot of these guys are very successful professionally and make tons of money. So if they can code-switch well enough to succeed in a professional environment where the feminist-dominated HR is watching like it's 1984, not being code-switch well enough isn't the reason they're not getting a first date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 03:05 AM |
| -2 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Got any evidence to back this up or did you just pull all this out of your ass? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 03:03 AM |
| 6 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Let's be honest here, you don't need to be some super sleuth to read all of the incredibly shitty comments dudes post on here about women and figure out that they're unpleasant, and that this energy comes out irl from time to time. How do you know this though? This is literally the whole point lmao. You're just automatically assuming this "energy comes out irl" with zero statistical evidence to support it. I've never met a whiner with a giant, woman-shaped chip on their shoulder who didn't let m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:55 AM |
| 4 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?So of course it’s not remotely a science Could they be wrong about their judgements? Of course. So we can all make judgements that could be wrong. But that is human nature. Great, that's all I'm asking women to admit. But sadly even in this thread, you have a lot of women acting like female intuition is virtually infallible. But following this, if a man makes a Reddit post complaining about dating that "reeks of desperation and negativity", women should actually listen to the substance of the po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:54 AM |
| -1 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?It doesn't matter though. That's the point. He's being desperate, negative, and misogynistic on Reddit because it's an anonymous internet forum where he's venting out his negative feelings. That doesn't mean he says the same things in real life. So, when a man makes a desperate, negative, and misogynistic post, actually listen to his lived experience (what he blames his dating failures on). If he says that women don't like him because he's short or because he's ugly, believe him. Don't immediate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:50 AM |
| 16 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Even in this thread there are a lot of women claiming near psychic abilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:47 AM |
| 8 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Does that necessarily equate to reliably detecting a "bad personality"? No. Ok. So when a man online is complaining about dating, can you agree that women need to stop jumping to conclusions and blaming it on his "desperation", "negativity", or "misogyny"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:46 AM |
| -5 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?The reason there aren't Red pilled faculty is because academia has devolved into an instrument of the state-sponsored religion, wokeness. Try saying anything that goes against the woke religion, and your career is over. A great example of this is earlier this year when Berkeley professor Shewchuk, a renowned computational geometry research, made a perfectly innocent statement advising men to get out of the Bay area for better dating options. In a sane world, he would've gotten a small reprimand … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:41 AM |
| 7 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?If so, the jokes write themselves 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:33 AM |
| -1 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?You do. When this happens: Whenever a man online expresses his frustration regarding his struggles with women, there will invariably be hordes of women in the comments shouting him down, saying, "Well actually the reason you're struggling with women is because of the negativity and desperation oozing off you. Just be more confident bro and work on your personality!" If the man blames his struggles on his looks/status, or makes any generalization about women, these hordes of women will also telli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:32 AM |
| 9 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?The point is very obvious: whenever a man online is complaining about their dating struggles, don't automatically blame it on his "negativity", "desperation", or "misogyny" because that's what you got from the Reddit post. I have no idea where you got those other weird ideas you're projecting onto me. The reality is that gut feelings about people are not an exact science. So stop acting like it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:24 AM |
| 15 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Funnily enough, most guys you'd label as incels tend to treat customer service workers very well and show lots of empathy/understanding to those different from them. That's why they're so angry that they receive no empathy from women. But again you're fundamentally missing the point- you have no authority to assess the success rate of your methods. You cannot measure the sensitivity of a test when you only see the true positives and can't count the false negatives. It's simple as that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:15 AM |
| 1 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Which part of this doesn't make sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:56 AM |
| 1 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?So when an apple complains nobody is biting it, you shouldn't jump to the conclusion "it's because you have a worm". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:52 AM |
| 1 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?That sentence was very clearly about in general on online spaces, not here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:51 AM |
| -2 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?They are supposed to not automatically blame "desperation" or "misogyny" whenever a man online is complaining about dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:50 AM |
| 3 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?No, that isn't what I'm saying. Read that part again, it's prefixed by "for all you know". Look, the point of my post is simple. You cannot determine the sensitivity of your "misogyny test" or "desperation test" because you can't count the number of false negatives. Therefore when men complain online about dating, it's unreasonable to automatically blame their dating struggles on their "desperation", "negativity", or "misogyny". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:48 AM |
| 3 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Ok but you missed the point entirely. No amount of true positives you get gives you any information on the number of false negatives. The entire point is: ok, you may have caught a few men, but who knows how many you didnt catch? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:45 AM |
| -2 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Again. For any "test" you use for "bad personality", you can't figure out the sensitivity because the number of false negatives is indeterminable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:37 AM |
| 1 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Sigh. Do you understand how to read words/phrases in context? Because in this context, "missed out" means "failed to sniff out", not "missed out on dating" as you seem to think it means. More precisely, for any method of "bad personality sniffing", you cannot accurately determine the sensitivity of the test because you can't know the number of false negatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:27 AM |
| 2 | How exactly do you think you can "sniff out bad personalities"?Again, as I explained in my post, you're falling to selection bias. You're only seeing the men who don't bother to "code switch" properly and not the ones who do. For all you know, for every one person you "catch", there's 10 you didn't. In your case it's actually very likely, since you seem to hold in your head an extremely hyperbolic caricature of manosphere men's beliefs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 01:04 AM |
| – | Attraction May Lead People to Appear Funnier, Research ShowsAnd these guys were getting zero women until they became "rich guys with status". There's countless singers, rappers, and other entertainers who talk about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 12:03 AM |
| 1 | In your experience, are women on Reddit representative of women in real life? If so, what motivates you to still participate in dating?How old are you? Lots of young women are like this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 11:15 PM |
| 1 | In your experience, are women on Reddit representative of women in real life? If so, what motivates you to still participate in dating?GenZ normie girls are. I see a lot of rhetoric spouted irl that's even worse than what you'd see on Reddit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 11:15 PM |
| -5 | q4w: Being that women in the west fertility (number of babies born) has been declining, what solutions do you all propose to increase the fertility rate?That's simply not true. Tons of men who are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, some even making millions a year, are struggling to get a single date because they're not attractive and "cool" enough. Meanwhile, there are tons of loser bums with drug addictions pull tons of girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 08:34 PM |
| 1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.How exactly am I "keep on ignoring" them? I already said that fathers and husband choosing the bear are just as stupid, paranoid and irrational as women who do. Fortunately, most men have the sense to still choose the man for their female family members. I live in an area where there's brown bears, and they come down from the mountains more and more looking for food, there hasn't been any attack in hundreds of years. And we see them quite often. They look at us and leave. Ok, now try being stuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Even college is not that great of a way for men and women to meet, due to male variabilityNone of this matters. If you are an attractive, sociable, popular guy, you can easily date in college, regardless of your major or IQ. If you're not, then you're going to have a real hard time, again regardless of your major or IQ. Women in college have a trivially easy time dating, just like women anywhere else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 07:32 PM |
| – | How are your Romantic, familial,professional and friendship relationships with the opposite gender?Romantic: nonexistent. I've never dated or had a relationship. Familial: really great. My mom and sister are genuinely amazing people, and I have a very good relationship with them; frankly, they're the only reason I haven't become a misogynist who hates all women. I'm actually able to have very reasonable discussions with them on things, and neither of them subscribe to the toxic woke ideology that endorses blind prejudice and misandry. Sadly, I'm fairly certain women like them are very rare an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 07:26 PM |
| 1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.Once again. It is not irrational to be afraid of men. But it is irrational to be so afraid of men you'd take a high chance of being mauled to death by a bear, just to avoid being in close proximity with a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 07:14 PM |
| 10 | Mainstream feminism is a hate movement - if you identify as a feminist and don't hate men, you are the fringe. I challenge you: Find me a single notable feminist who condemns feminist man-hatingYou can't say it's definitely a "hate movement" if you refuse to allow rhetoric from "random persons on the internet". These people are the rank and file of the movement. I agree. Why don't you go on r/TwoXChromosomes and take a look at what the "rank and file" of the movement have to say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 06:45 PM |
| 1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.No, the entire point is that it is NOT men's responsibility to "change that". When you have an emotional, irrational fear, it is your own responsibility to get therapy to fix it. The fact that women choose to justify their irrational phobia and blame it on men tells us they are emotional, illogical and have zero accountability. And any father or husband choosing bear is just as stupid, irrational, and deserving of ridicule as the women who choose bear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 06:02 PM |
| 8 | Q4W: If a man is unwilling to get into a physical fight for you, is he not a real man to you ?That's completely delusional. A drunk man (or any man really) is FAR more likely to get into a physical altercation with a man who provokes him than with a woman does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 09:11 AM |
| -1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.Why does that matter? I'm arguing that it proves that women are illogical. Whether or not the opinion affects me in real life is irrelevant to the discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 11:08 PM |
| 1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.That's interesting. Could I ask what your location/demographics are? At least where I live, I'm fairly certain most women irl would choose the bear too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 06:27 PM |
| 3 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.If you bothered to read the post you'll see I fully understood and addressed the intent/rationale behind it, and explained why it was stupid and proved women are illogical. But of course you have don't bother to read and immediately resort to insults. Wtf are you doing here then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 06:18 PM |
| 2 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.I'm fully aware of the point. In fact, I addressed the exact "point" you're describing in the original post. Take a read. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 06:05 PM |
| 4 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.It was “would you rather go through a Junko experience where you go through horrors and slowly pass away or just have a quick end through being mauled by a bear”. No, it was: "would you rather have a 0.00001% chance of going through a Junko experience where you go through horrors and slowly pass away, or have a 10% chance of just having a quick end through being mauled by a bear" The fact that women are unable to weigh the relative probabilities of these proves that they are illogical and overly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:44 PM |
| -2 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.That is a lot of words to call names/throw insults, blame the patriarchy, and say "actually the bear IS the right choice". Your endless rambling on "context", "oppression", "systemic violence", etc may explain why women choose bear but it does not make the choice any less irrational*.* The RATIONAL way to choose is via an expected utility calculation, and in the vast majority of the question's framings, any reasonable calculation would lead to the choice of man. I already explained this in my po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:36 PM |
| -5 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.If you cared to read even the title, you'd realize that the discourse is being used as a case study rather than to "revived". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:26 PM |
| 1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.inb4 she doesn't understand what an analogy is and says "omg you're comparing an internet joke to the Holocaust? what a pathetic manbaby hurr durr" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:26 PM |
| 6 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.LOL, I'm sure it's "casual humor" when women everywhere on social media were unironically, very literally, arguing for it. The "it was just a joke" is probably the dumbest copout for this that there is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:25 PM |
| 1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.You do realize that the tiny, minuscule, negligible minority of women has even heard of the stupid tik tok "man or bear" trend, and you've heard the opinion of an even smaller fraction of women? Ah yes. I forgot, you have to meet all 4 billion women before drawing any conclusions or making generalizations about them 🤡🤡 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:17 PM |
| -3 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.It is not unreasonable for women to be wary of strange men in certain circumstances, such as walking to our car at night or walking/hiking/jogging in remote areas. We know that the majority of men are not violent and don't have bad intentions, but we have no way of knowing which men could pose a danger to us until we've had a chance to get to know them. I'm going to repeat this again. It's reasonable for women to be wary of strange men, but NOT to the point where you'd rather be stuck with a lit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:15 PM |
| -1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.It depends on your own utility function but for most people, yes, duh? Nearly everyone offing themselves in general is not doing it from a logically sound perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:03 PM |
| 0 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.I'm pretty sure it's much smaller than even that, 0.1% was generous. Men raping woman in war is a terrorization tactic and not at all comparable to raping a stranger just because you're in the woods with her. If you want to get an accurate probability, you could just look at the fraction of total men that perpetrators of stranger rape makes up; any man who'd rape a woman just f for being alone in the woods has likely already done something similar. I'm fairly certain it's well under 1%. Then mul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 05:00 PM |
| 0 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.It's illogical when you don't consider the vast disparity in the relative probabilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 04:58 PM |
| 0 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.No, that's so off the mark I don't even know where to begin. It's not a hyperbole or exaggeration when there are countless women all over social media very literally making the argument that it's more dangerous to be alone with a man than with a bear, and shaming any man who dares disagree. probably upsets them that a prefers anything other than them. No, that's totally wrong. No man would have an issue with "I'd rather be alone with a woman than with a man." Even "I'd rather be on my own in a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 04:56 PM |
| -1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.LOL yeah, literally every single female comment here is proving my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 04:54 PM |
| -5 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.The illogical part of it is failing to consider that the chance of rape upon choosing man is orders of magnitude smaller than the chance of being eaten/killed upon choosing bear. If the woman (with a consistent utility function) would rather have a 0.1% chance of being raped than a 10% of being eaten/killed, then she'd also rather be 100% chance of being raped than a 1% chance of being eaten/killed, which I'm fairly certain no woman would agree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 04:49 PM |
| -8 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.In nowhere in the post was there any mention of "personal victimization" or "hurt feelings". The post was entirely logical: thoroughly refuting the rational validity of all of women's reasons for choosing the bear, and then discussing how it exemplified women's inability to use logic properly. But because you're a woman, you're unable to comprehend that one can argue against something in a purely rational manner without being emotionally hurt by it, so you get this kind of projection. Thanks for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 04:43 PM |
| 1 | The man vs bear "debate" is a case study showing that women struggle with logic and are overly emotional, and thus not worth arguing with.If you actually read and comprehended my first paragraph, you'll see the "room" question was one specific variant I highlighted as particularly egregious. Thanks for proving my point though! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/24 04:38 PM |
| 5 | Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equalityI think that the problem is more that power is being taken away from men more than they are being demonized. Young men see the relationships of their parents, see that today's idealized power structures see more relative support for women rather than for them, and they then feel disempowered because of this. And is there a problem with this? It's not a "when you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression" thing; due to the victimhood culture we live in, young women simply have much mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 11:41 PM |
| 12 | Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equalityIt took me 1 minute to read. If you aren't willing to read a multiple-paragraph post then maybe you shouldn't be on a debate forum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 11:34 PM |
| 3 | Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equalityTo start, Trump can revoke federal funding from all blatantly biased news sources. NPR would be a good start. If I were Trump, I'd also tackle the arts/entertainment industry by sending the DOJ to fully investigate all the pedophilia and sex crimes in Hollywood, and then prosecute everyone involved to the fullest extent of the law. It hits two birds in one stone- justice for the victims, and the removing the current woke liberals from power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 11:31 PM |
| -2 | Too many men use ‘being honest’ as an excuse to be bulliesSpeak for yourself. Negativity and pessimism in a woman is very attractive to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 11:21 PM |
| -2 | Women have a problem with logic.I completely agree. Remember the saying: "Never play chess with a pigeon. The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over, shits over the board, then struts around like it won." Similarly: Never debate with a woman. The woman just blames the patriarchy, calls you an incel, then struts around like she won. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 10:43 PM |
| -1 | Women have a problem with logic.This entire comment chain is useless pedantry on your part. Drawing conclusions from empirical evidence is quite literally the use of informal logic (what OP clearly is referring to). OP (obviously not a native English speaker) is saying, "Here are several strong pieces of evidence which I've presented to women to refute some of their common talking points. When I bring these up, women tend to react emotionally rather than provide logical arguments." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 10:14 PM |
| -1 | Women have a problem with logic.There was no mention of any assumption in the comment you replied to. He drew a conclusion, not made an assumption. And drawing conclusions from empirical evidence IS a part of logic. Why don't you go and look up what informal logic is? That's pretty clearly what the original post is referring to, not formal mathematical reasoning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 10:06 PM |
| -3 | Women have a problem with logic.Nobody is confusing "a single piece of empirical evidence" with logic. Logic is not the evidence itself but how you choose to interpret/draw conclusions from the evidence. If you are dismissing a large body of corroborating evidence for no good reason other than your emotions/intuition, then yes that's pretty illogical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4M- Hypothetical- your child's friends parent is accused of in appropriately touching another child but doesn't get convicted, what do you do?False accusations regarding CHILD sexual assault are not at all commonly discussed on this subreddit. This is a stupid troll question and you know it. "Would you let your child stay over with a guy accused of child molestation" is completely different from "would you keep your friendship with a guy accused of sexual assault". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 09:42 PM |
| 0 | Q4M- Hypothetical- your child's friends parent is accused of in appropriately touching another child but doesn't get convicted, what do you do?C. It would depend a lot on who got accused and who's the accuser, and how well I know both of them / what I perceive them as. If I have any reasonable suspicion of the accusation, I'd make sure to talk to them both to get both sides of the story. If I come to the conclusion that the accusation is very clearly false, I'd not only let my child stay over as normal but also defend him against the accusation and offer any support he could use. If it seems wishy-washy, I'd temporarily stop my child f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 09:34 PM |
| 0 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingWell, what's appealing about being a victim in the west is that under progressive/woke culture, victimhood grants you power. The basis of modern progressive ideology is that you can divide people into "oppressor" and "victim" classes, and that to compensate for "historical systemic oppression", members of the victim class must be endlessly catered to and accommodated for while the members of the oppressor class are given zero help and have their voices silenced/dismissed. This goes for all kinds… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 05:55 PM |
| 10 | Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equalityWhere am I assuming that? This entire discussion is about why men are rejecting progressivism and instead turning towards right-wing/manosphere communities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standardsI'm at a top STEM university and know lots of religious people studying math, computer science, and physics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 05:15 PM |
| 15 | Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equalityProgressives do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 05:05 PM |
| 6 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingNo, your logic is completely wrong. The 5.5% statistics is the percent of reports proven false. It doesn't mean the other 94.5% are automatically true; in fact, the percent of reports that get proven true (i.e. result in a conviction) is also around 5%. The remaining 90% of accusations could be either true or false, we don't know. False accusations happen extremely rarely, but they are a rare exception. Again, there's zero statistical evidence that "they happen extremely rarely". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 05:03 PM |
| 0 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingNo thanks, I'd rather not waste my time watching a propaganda piece whose entire existence is the use of emotional appeal to advance the feminist narrative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 04:47 PM |
| 0 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingThis is what the truthful women have to go through. This is what the truthful women cherry-picked by a sensationalized documentary had to go through. getting a rape kit done, being pulled back to the station to repeat the story again, being poked and prodded. All that sounds reasonable to me as long as it's done in a gentle manner. How do YOU propose filtering out the false accusations or the ones that simply don't have enough evidence for a case? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 04:44 PM |
| 3 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingI can't believe a woman is saying this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 04:39 PM |
| 5 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingThey're probably factoring in sexual assault being grossly underreported so if you looked at the number of false accusations vs the total number of sexual assaults that occur, the percentage would actually be much lower. The number of false accusations is also grossly underreported. Sure, many women who get SA'ed don't go through the legal system, but many false accusations are also made entirely outside the legal system (e.g. telling HR, or title IX / university judiciary, or even just your soc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingOdds are if you’re worried about getting a false accusation against you raped/sexually assaulted then you are 1. hanging out with the wrong people in the wrong environment or 2. you are acting in questionable ways that could lead to trouble. How does this sound when you flip it around? Are you still on board with the victim blaming? Just like how there's women who do everything right and still get raped, there's men who do everything right and still get falsely accused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingAssuming the 5.5% is true, that would nearly align it with the false accusation rates of other crimes. Even accepting this as true, there's no reason at all to believe false rape accusations should align with the false accusation rates of other crimes. Rape is extremely unique in that it's the most stigmatized and disdained crime in existence, while being one of the most difficult to prove, so it would be the go-to false accusation to make if some evil woman wanted to hurt a man's social standin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Women are simply lying about this pretty consequential thingWhen there is a conflict between punishing the guilty and protecting the innocent, you choose the innocent. It's better to have false accusers walk free than sending a bunch of rape victims to prison. What? Why does this go only one way? This principle also means it's better to have some real rapists walk free than sending a bunch of false accusation victims to prison. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 03:45 PM |
| 28 | Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equalityWow, men are adapting by rejecting the ideology that hates them and going to communities that actually hear them out instead of incessantly shitting on them? Who would've thought! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 02:58 PM |
| 13 | Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equalityMen will adapt to whatever type of behavior will get them sex No, please stop with this dumbass misandrist rhetoric. Men are not sex crazed animals purely driven by their libido. In reality, men adapt to whatever type of behavior aligns with their principles and values. Since a lot of men value fairness, justice, and equality, they turn away from feminist/progressive spaces and towards the alt-right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 02:54 PM |
| 0 | Are women in denial about dating/relationships? Mainly pertaining to their standardsIt's pretty clearly a simple typo 🤷 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 02:48 PM |
| 7 | Are you really "doing it for yourself"?Nope that's a huge cope. Why do lesbians dress revealingly then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/24 10:40 AM |
| – | We can at least agree that that too many women are addicted to taking pictures at the expense of ruining a momentExcessively taking pictures of yourself is narcissistic and childish, especially if it's just to post on social media. Women have no problem shitting on male hobbies like video games, so it's only fair men return the favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?No, it's a feature of the system that devalues men and treats them as disposable, while treating women as valuable and worthy of protection. You're seriously arguing that being sent off to die makes you more valuable than being protected at home? WTF? At best you could say "more useful", but absolutely not more valuable; you should know by now the difference between these terms. In the entire thread you act like men aren't disadvantaged in any way by the system, and when someone points you they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One WomanThe idea is you just don't get attached. Focus on your career and have some fun on the side, rather than become a betabux. It may be more expensive in the short run but it's much cheaper long term. Also, I'm very well aware of how the tech industry works, especially for young men. I'm a CS major and can confidently say that it's very easy to make close to 200K starting if you just have decent projects and know basic DSA. Just about every FAANG/big tech company pays close to 200K, and some of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 02:58 AM |
| 0 | Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One WomanOh I don't mean quit your job and settle down in a new country, I mean more like take periodic vacations and have flings/short term relationships in those. Realistically, any young guy making 200k+/year (which is very common in industries like tech and finance) should be able to afford this easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One WomanIf I dated western women I'd be a betabux anyway, so might as well sugar date and make the transaction clear. And your description sounds no different from western women. If I'm gonna get used anyway, I might as well go for whoever's cheaper. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/24 12:01 AM |
| -5 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Maybe to hear a different perspective that might change your mind? Do you consider yourself the smartest person on earth? If not, what makes you think that your opinions (on some very subjective matters) are indisputably correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 11:22 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?I'm not sure how this is relevant at all. We're not talking about a guy who fits in whatever definition you have of a Redpiller (which seems to be an exaggerated caricature) and believes all the "essential beliefs." We're talking about a guy who believes in a few manosphere beliefs, of which "women have it easier in dating" is absolutey one. Btw nobody is against DEI because society is gynocentric. Wtf did that even come from? That makes no sense at all. The vast majority of men in the manospher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:57 PM |
| -1 | Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One WomanSounds exhausting. Why not just avoid dating entirely and go the passport bro/sugar dating route? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:38 PM |
| -2 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Well that's just how it is. These are the same people who cut off their parents and siblings for voting Trump. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:36 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Wdym? I'm just asking what women would do. It's pretty normal for progressive social circles to ostracize anyone that has a hint of right wing or antifeminist beliefs. If a guy tells a woman about his Redpill beliefs, it's likely she feels it's her responsibility to report him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:24 PM |
| -2 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?I'm embarrassed for YOU if you've been on this sub for any amount of time and still lump all manosphere beliefs into "dehumanizing horseshit about how to train your bitch". Pray tell, which parts of being against gender discrimination via affirmative action/ DEI hiring is "dehumanizing"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 10:21 PM |
| -11 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?I already explained in another comment and used the race example. I'm a POC and more than willing to engage with a white person who holds "extreme/radical" views that society considers racist. If you can't do that you're intolerant and close minded, simple as that. "Safety" is a total copout, you are not in any danger from a guy with manosphere views, just like how I'm not in any danger from a guy with alt right views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 05:35 PM |
| -5 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?I think it's just good evidence to not become close friends with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 05:27 PM |
| -5 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Just about everyone else in this thread is saying they'd cut off the guy. Congrats on being one of the few slightly reasonable ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 04:41 PM |
| -2 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?As a POC I would certainly tolerate/be open to discuss most of what society considers as "racism", such as beliefs in inherent biological differences between races (eg IQ, aggression, masculinity, etc). I would be more than happy to talk it through if a friend believed that society was discriminating against whites and too accommodating to minorities- that's not even racist at all. If you aren't able to do this, you're just close minded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 04:37 PM |
| -3 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Well at least your responses are mostly reasonable. You're maybe one of the few women here who didn't say to immediately cut them off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 04:31 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Are you willing to have your mind changed though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 04:22 PM |
| -3 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?If a smart friend was a scientologist, I'd talk to him about it and see what his perspective is rather than immediately cutting him off. I definitely wouldn't become a scientologist but I'm open to being convinced that it's not as evil as the media portrays it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 04:21 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Are you set in YOUR views though? If it's someone who you presumably respect and see as intelligent, you wouldn't be open to possibly changing your mind at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 04:09 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?It's a system set up by a tiny group of men for their own benefit. For nearly all of history, 95% of men AND women were peasants with zero autonomy or power. The "for men" part is complete nonsense and merely a projection on women's part. Men do not do things "for men", they do things for themselves. The so-called patriarchy is in fact very gynocentric and puts women's well-being, feelings, and safety FAR above men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 04:02 PM |
| -5 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?That has nothing to do with the principle of being open minded to opposing beliefs. For a better example, I'm a POC, but even if one of my white friends believed that society is racist against whites and too accommodating to minorities, I'd be totally open to talking it out and potentially changing each other's minds. Refusing to do so and automatically dismissing him as a "racist who doesn't see me as human" would be simply close minded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Are you open to being convinced / revising your own beliefs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 03:15 PM |
| -9 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Wow, I can't believe that you are the only woman on this thread who'd even attempt to hear him out rather than automatically cutting him off. If a woman I'm close to turns out to be a huge misandrist/radical feminist I'd do my best to hear her perspective and be open to having my mind changed, so it's interesting most women think so differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 03:13 PM |
| -14 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?Wow, that's a new one. Being against DEI or thinking women have it easier in dating makes you unsafe now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 03:11 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?That's fair. What if it was a friend in your social circle though? Would you just avoid him or try to get him ostracized too? And what about if it's a close family member like a sibling or parent (so much harder to break contact with)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 02:54 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: What would you do if your male friend or partner told you he had some manosphere beliefs?For a relationship, that makes sense. What about someone who's in your friend group/social circle? Would you just avoid him and act distant, or try to get him ostracized/kicked out? Another hypothetical: what if it's your sibling or close family member (so someone who's much harder to cut off)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 02:48 PM |
| 3 | (American) Redpillers had the biggest Women Are Wonderful biasI would love to see this proof of ‘Women Are Wonderful’ The "women are wonderful" effect is quite literally supported by tons of studies that universally agree on its existence (something incredibly rare in psychology/sociology). I suggest you take a look at the Wikipedia page. OR they let small groups of celebrities and blue haired feminists bother them way more than it does the average person. These "small groups of celebrities and blue haired feminists" are the ones who control academia, the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 01:22 PM |
| 3 | Many Men Struggle in Dating because they are Not Very Interesting.Ah yes, "graphic designer in FAANG". When I think of "interesting jobs that push the boundaries of humanity's knowledge", that's exactly the first thing that comes to mind! Come on now... If you said "AI research scientist at Deepmind" or something that would be something else, but "FAANG graphic designer" is literally a prototypical example of "PMC corporate drone". she makes her own clothes and her own bags, she has strong political opinions that we go back and forth on together, she has a goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 01:13 PM |
| 2 | Many Men Struggle in Dating because they are Not Very Interesting.So I've read through the comments and based on what you've said about yourself, your wife, and your social circle, it really seems like you have a super inflated view of how interesting you and the people around you are. It sounds like you're just in a standard upper-middle class social circle- in which most people are above average intelligence but still midwits, and "well-rounded" but only very superficial. Neither you nor your wife sound particularly interesting at all- which is fine, because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 01:04 PM |
| 2 | Many Men Struggle in Dating because they are Not Very Interesting.Travelling to a new place, trying new foods, going skydiving, hiking up a mountain, trying to film a movie or play live music, all of these things could be considered adventurous or daring in different ways Yeah it's so adventurous and daring to buy a plane ticket, make some restaurant reservations, and do a bunch of sanctioned activities with zero risk at all!!! LOL, do you even hear yourself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 12:00 PM |
| 4 | What is the longest you have ever been in a committed relationship?I have never been in a relationship or even had any kind of sexual/romantic interaction with a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/24 11:30 AM |
| 16 | Lily Philips films the aftermath of her sleeping with 100 men in a single day. It's basically an advertisement to bring back Patriarchy/ReligionLOL you just made up your entire second paragraph. It's all projection on your part. She's extremely happy right now. This stunt is going to massively boost her porn career and make her a lot of money. She doesn't at all seem "dead inside". And trust me, she is not at all lacking in options for marriage; even the dirtiest, nastiest pornstars have hordes of rich, attractive men lining up to marry them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/24 02:17 PM |
| 1 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.LMAO wtf?? Who even mentioned TikTok at all? And whether it's easier to be straight in this world depends on the area; in more liberal, urban areas, you're celebrated for being lesbian and despising men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:28 PM |
| 5 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.No, there was no such implication and it's legitimately insane to jump to that. Also why don't you respond to my point about the feminist concept of compulsive heterosexuality? It completely refutes the dumb conclusion you're jumping too unless you're willing to say feminists are doing the dame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:25 PM |
| 1 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.There's no reason to believe the women in real life feel any different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:22 PM |
| 2 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.LOL wtf? That was the biggest leap I've ever seen. Nobody called women "dumb and not autonomous adults" except you, stop putting words into my mouth. You realize that the entire concept of compulsory heterosexuality, the idea that lots of bi/lesbian women were socially conditioned into heterosexuality by the patriarchy, was created by feminists right? Do they also view women as "dumb and incapable"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:20 PM |
| 1 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.It's not "magical thinking", the common sentiment from women on Reddit is quite literally "men aren't competing with Chad, they're competing with my peace". For a very recent example, just look at the massive amount of women joining/celebrating the 4B movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:15 PM |
| 5 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.Lmao what? If you bothered to read my post you'll see that actual homosexuality only accounts for a fraction of the lopsided gender ratio. Most of the difference is heterosexual/bisexual women choosing to avoid men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:09 PM |
| -1 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.They see men as simple-minded, sex-crazed, emotionless, predatory animals and fail to recognize that men have the same real feelings, deep thoughts, etc that women have. Most women don't really see men as human. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:06 PM |
| -1 | Men are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to women’s dating choices.Women pick who they want, men pick who they get. Men end up with shitty partners because their alternative is being alone. They're not purposely choosing a shitty woman just because she's attractive while turning down good women for being less attractive/exciting, and THEN complaining about it. Women do do this though so that's what they're being called out for. If any man did this, men would also gladly call him out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:04 PM |
| -1 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.I agree that hypergamy is a reason, I believe that in the pool for LTRs, the ratio is just as strong of a factor. While yes, a lot of women do go for non-committal Chads and fuckboys, most of those women aren't really pining for relationships and are instead ok with the FWB/casual sex arrangement (even if they won't admit it). Tbh I think "pump and dump" doesn't happen all that much. Really, I do believe that most women deep down can recognize a fuckboy when they see one, so the ones who proceed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 06:00 PM |
| 1 | A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool.That's certainly one factor to it. But I would argue another major factor is that women's sexuality are in very large part socially conditioned, and they've been conditioned to be primarily attracted to women rather than men. The current cultural zeitgeist that GenZ grew up with has conditioned women to despise men as whole, be disgusted by male sexuality, and view men as disgusting and dangerous predators, while viewing other women as innocent perfect angels. It's pretty obvious that a large fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 05:55 PM |
| 4 | 5 questions regarding your pill, please share if you can.Bluepill 2-3. Yes. I went from bluepill -> redpill -> blackpill -> back to bluepill. Naturally I started off bluepill just like everyone else, but in early high school I became frustrated by my loneliness and lack of social/romantic success, so I turned to Reddit to seek answers. It became clearly that all the "normies" here were nothing but idiots and gaslighters, and all the "normie advice" was absolute garbage, so that led me to discover the Red Pill dating strategy. Redpill succeeded in help… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/24 04:23 PM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".Wtf is this comparison? Conservatives are not going to maul me and eat me alive lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 01:44 PM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".I think it's pretty logical to not want to abide by an ideology that despises you and blames you for everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 11:36 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".Your second paragraph is insanely ironic considering wokeness/social justice is the dominant American religion. All of the mainstream media, entertainment industry, academia, and big corporations abide by it. And where are you getting the idea that joining the manosphere = "blindly following some ideology religiously and not making up your own mind"?? Lmaoo. These are huge spaces with tons of different ideologies, their only common thread is being reactionary against feminism. Personally I never… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 11:32 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".Well western society as a whole has massively shifted leftwards over the past decade or two. So men staying where they are is still relatively shifting right, and I 100% think the left's demonization of men is a factor. At least personally, in 2020 I was extremely pro Biden and hated Trump. Now I still dislike Trump, but I voted for him enthusiastically because of how the left has been treating men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 11:13 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".He's usually great in bed, but now with him being "too sore" to even properly worship me every night, I'm just like why. I even know these guys, one is called Chad, who would totally make up for this lacking aspect in my life atm, and I wouldn't even have to pretend to love him. Seriously thinking about just taking his money and moving on, I've earned it, I've been with him for years now, ever since I got depressed and he looked after me and bought me a house and all that. But I deserve more, I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 11:03 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".I’ve seen men in countries where child marriage is still rampant demonizing feminist from their countries. Probably because child marriage is not rampant where these men live? These types of things are generally only rampant in rural, backwards villages, while the men complaining likely live in urban centers where the culture is much more westernized and feminism is a major cultural force. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 10:54 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".Lmao wtf? That's the most unhinged thing I've ever read and shows you have absolutely zero understanding of the manosphere. There's no "reward" that some "manosphere leader" is promising to young men. There's no "vision" for the manosphere. It's a collection of several very different communities whose only common thread is being reactionary against feminism. Let me ask you, who's the leader of men's right activists? What's their vision and reward? What about the blackpill/incel community? Whose … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 10:44 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".See maybe I would buy this more argument if it wasn’t for the fact that I’ve noticed a large amount of support for these redpill influencers like Andrew Tate and manosphere accounts in general also come from men living non western countries, where feminism is even mainstream enough for them to scapegoat as the boogey man that explains all their problems. It's because these men consume western media and are active on western-dominated online communities, so they see the demonization of men just a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 10:41 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".Simple example is the entire man vs bear thing. I'm sure someone will use the ambiguity as a copout, so I want to make it clear that men have tried asking all kinds of variations to clear up the ambiguity. For every single variation asked in progressive spaces, even the one where it was "would you rather be stuck in a ROOM with a random man or random bear", women by far and large chose bear. I'm sure someone will use the "ragebaiting" or "ingroup-signaling" cop-outs too; no, these are very clear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 10:27 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".Not surprised you didn't read it but thanks for proving my point! According to you, men being treated poorly in feminist/progressive spaces is also the patriarchy's fault, aka men's fault collectively. Meanwhile the women who dominate those spaces are not to blame at all. This is the kind of rhetoric that makes men turn to the manosphere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 10:12 AM |
| 5 | Men are a big part of the problem.Who's "we"? Men are not at all a monolith, the men complaining about Onlyfans aren't the men rewarding it. I'm not sure how "lack of education" has to do with anything here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 07:59 AM |
| 5 | Men are a big part of the problem.I don't like the rhetoric of blaming men for simping. Simps, by far and large, are victims of misandrist oppression by the western gynocracy. The vast majority of simping is simply the product of our modern social environment. We live in an age where women are glorified and viewed as perfect angels who can do no wrong, while men are demonized and forced to take responsibility for all of society's ills. The entire western world is hellbent on coddling and catering to women in every possible way, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 07:53 AM |
| – | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.Lol stop capping. Point is that you most definitely have rejected men before, and quite many of them out of your league. A guy in class who has a crush on you. A stranger on the street who thinks you're cute and approaches you. The hordes of men in your texts and DMs. You're telling me you said yes to EVERY SINGLE ONE of these men? No you didn't. I'm tired of women making up blatant falsehoods to try to victimize themselves and act as if their struggles are even comparable to men's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 05:15 AM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.Don't worry lots of women struggle to handle the truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 06:00 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.Yep. If you think about it, the biggest power dynamic is actually just between men and women. The average woman has 1000x more power than the average man in the dating world, and they clearly frequently abuse it. But of course you don't see feminists complaining, so I don't care about any of their moral grandstanding about "unethical power dynamics". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 04:12 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.Why should beta men go through all that effort of lifting, holding frame, and conforming into the hypermasculine redpill archetype, when he could just use his money? For female validation? I think it's pretty pathetic and irrational to be so dependent on female validation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 04:09 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.Lmao what is Redpillers' obsession with lifting? Lifting is going to improve you by maybe 0.5-1 points max unless you're starting out really fat. It's not going to make you chad. And it sure as hell isnt going to make you more charismatic or sociable, which matters just as much as looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 04:06 PM |
| – | The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies.Less attractive women are just as shallow, entitled and narcissistic as highly attractive women, and they also have the exact same ludicrous standards. Thank feminism for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 04:03 PM |
| 1 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.Ok how about I ask you out? I'm 20 so in your age range and I have the money to pay for your flights. (see? of course the "never rejected a guy" part is total BS lmaoo) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 03:33 PM |
| 0 | Women with at least one son: Did having a son make you more sympathetic to men's issues and more disturbed by the prevalence of mainstream open misandry?Wow just wow, imagine prioritizing your own twisted sense of moral righteousness over not only objective facts but your actual son's well being. I feel terrible for your son. I hope he comes to his senses and eventually realizes what a pathetic excuse of a mother he had. Men have to worry about being rejected by women who don’t like men. Women have to worry about being MURDERED by men who don’t like women (but still want to fuck us). If you spend 2 seconds to think critically you will realize th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/24 03:39 AM |
| -1 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.oh damn I didn't know that Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and all those conservative politicians and billionaires aren't professionally successful. thanks for enlightening me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 09:26 PM |
| -2 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.I'm throwing female talking points back at them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 05:50 PM |
| -16 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.Nope I don't believe in using sources/studies. The vast majority of social science studies are utterly worthless and tell you nothing at all. There's been very few effects that have survived longstanding replication, so I simply take those as principles and combine them with my own observations to form my own ideas. This post is mainly based on my observations and experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 05:22 PM |
| 0 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.???? That bullet point was clearly not in the context of a relationship, just a friend or acquaintance... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 05:11 PM |
| -5 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.So you'd rather date a progressive woman? Go on r/TwoXChromosomes and r/askfeminists, and take a read. These are how the women you'd like to date feel about you. Are these really the women you want to date? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 05:10 PM |
| -9 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.How can you possibly love male sexuality and men as people if you're a liberal progressive? Men are only 50% of the population but make up nearly all the murders, nearly all the rapes, and nearly all instances of sexual violence. Male sexuality has been the weapon of the patriarchy to oppress and enslave women for millennia. In fact, the patriarchal power structures in western society significantly vitiate female consent to the extent that all heterosexual intercourse can be fairly considered ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 05:07 PM |
| -2 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.Duh, this post is 100% centered on the US and to other culturally similarly countries like Canada and UK/maybe some other western European countries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 05:00 PM |
| -15 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.There's no such thing as a "moderately progressive" woman. A moderately progressive woman is one that's progressive in name only and hasn't taken the time to think deeply about what her ideology means. One of the core tenants of progressivism is: "silence is violence", which I believe is justified if you believe the rest of the crazy loony stuff. Thus, as a progressive woman, if you're not vigilantly fighting against misogyny and oppression in your personal life, then you're complicit in it. So … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:58 PM |
| -7 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.I'm suggesting that most progressive women are like this, yes. If she isn't then she's merely a progressive in name only. One of the core tenants of progressivism is: "silence is violence". If you're not constantly speaking out against misogyny and oppression, then you're complicit in it. So logically most women who are actually true to their progressive beliefs are very vocal, zealous, and ardent believers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:54 PM |
| 0 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:52 PM |
| 6 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.Bro really thinks that every conservative woman is white trash from the ghetto 💀 In reality, there's a lot of intelligent, well-educated, professionally successful conservative women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:51 PM |
| -1 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely."Staying at home" is not a traditional gender role, idk where people got that from. My parents are super conservative and have a very traditional relationship, but they both work similarly-paying jobs and split the housework, with my dad doing the outdoor chores and taking care of finances/investments while my mom does more of the cooking and cleaning. "Trad relationship" doesn't mean "1950s American fantasy" lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:46 PM |
| -4 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.Everything else I said absolutely is associated with conservatism. Also, copy/paste: I'm blue pilled because I despise how misandrist the Redpill is. The Redpill advocates for men to essentially center their lives on "self-improving" to become an "alpha male" that gets women, and puts the entire onus on men to simply get better. The Redpill has no empathy for struggling men and tells them to either improve or fuck off. Why on earth would I be Redpilled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:43 PM |
| -25 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.Describing general tendencies is not making caricatures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:39 PM |
| 0 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.Uhh obviously debate what's best in general? I've been using generic second-person POV throughout the entire post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:37 PM |
| -4 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.I'm blue pilled because I despise how misandrist the Redpill is. The Redpill advocates for men to essentially center their lives on "self-improving" to become an "alpha male" that gets women, and puts the entire onus on men to simply get better. The Redpill has no empathy for struggling men and tells them to either improve or fuck off. Why on earth would I be Redpilled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:36 PM |
| -3 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.How? I think they might not be actually progressive then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:33 PM |
| 2 | Conservative women are MUCH better to date than progressive women, and all men should avoid dating progressive women entirely.Ideally that'd be the case but it's pretty much impossible to find a woman unconcerned with social performance. The biological female imperative is quite literally to maximize social status; finding a woman who doesn't do that is incredibly rare. In general, you see that women care about social climbing/gaining social status to a far greater extent than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 04:32 PM |
| -1 | Do conservative men prefer liberal women?Being conservative doesn't mean "upholding traditional family values". As a conservative, I'm for egalitarian relationships in which both people work, and I don't subscribe to any of the BS regarding traditional gender roles or social expectations. I'm also not at all interested in having kids. In general, I'm somewhat anti traditional social values but I'm very much for racial and gender equality, so overall that makes me a hardcore conservative by today's standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Do conservative men prefer liberal women?Nice projection. Unironically thinking that lying about your political views to get sex is rape is next level insanity. But thanks for thoroughly proving my point to anyone else who reads this thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 09:05 AM |
| 0 | Do conservative men prefer liberal women?What an absolute garbage analogy. Medical professionals are expected to adhere to a very strict set of principles when talking to patients, and doctor-patient interactions are very heavily regulated. That's why any kind of lie by a doctor to a patient is abhorrent behavior- it breaks the standards that make patients automatically place huge amounts of trust to the medical staff treating them. Meanwhile, the standards held for personal interactions are nowhere near as strict. There's all kinds of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 08:59 AM |
| -2 | Do conservative men prefer liberal women?Lmao, so you're AGREEING with those women that lying about your political affiliation to get sex is considered rape? Thanks for proving my point. Seems like YOU'RE the one treating it flippantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 08:38 AM |
| 3 | Do conservative men prefer liberal women?Will they hide their political affiliation to get laid? Of course. As a conservative man I will never understand this, this is quite literally playing with fire. If you lie about your politics to sleep with a liberal woman then dip afterwards, you're in SERIOUS danger of public shaming and false rape accusations if she even finds out your true views. For a lot of liberal women for example, they believe that consent can be conditional and thus retroactively revoked, so lying to get sex is rape. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 08:29 AM |
| 8 | Do conservative men prefer liberal women?I deny it. I very strongly prefer conservative women. Additionally, some liberal women argue that conservative men find conservative women boring, viewing liberal women as more of a challenge, and even consider conservative women "easy." LOL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 08:21 AM |
| -1 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?Eh, I think this relationship is very common among middle-aged married adults (sleeping in separate bedrooms, no longer having sex, not really cuddling/kissing/being intimate, etc). It's indeed rarer for relationships to start off like this, but it does happen not too uncommonly. In general, I think it's pretty common among married couples for their love to change from romantic to familial over the years, meaning more duty/service to each other but no more passion or intimacy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 08:18 AM |
| 1 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?That makes sense. However, let's say his explanation is this: When you ask your boyfriend about all this, he tells you that back then he was immature, and he's grown since his past relationships. Now that he's a mature adult, he doesn't care about juvenile things like constant cuddles/intimacy, frequent hot sex, or grand romantic gifts/gestures. He's done chasing the excitement of sex/romance; now he wants a peaceful, comfortable relationship with someone who has a stable lifestyle, which is why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 07:45 AM |
| 0 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?But the man you're dating isn't behave exactly like you want. There's frequently a big gap between your standards (ie things that are dealbreakers) and your preferences (ie what you'd hope him to have in a perfect world); so of course you wouldn't be with a man who doesn't meet all your standards, but a man could meet all your standards while not meeting lots of preferences. So the scenario really is when a man meets all your standards but not many of your important preferences, and then you fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:57 AM |
| -1 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?But the man you're dating isn't behave exactly like you want. There's frequently a big gap between your standards (ie things that are dealbreakers) and your preferences (ie what you'd hope him to have in a perfect world); so of course you wouldn't be with a man who doesn't meet all your standards, but a man could meet all your standards while not meeting lots of preferences. So the scenario really is when a man meets all your standards but not many of your important preferences, and then you fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:55 AM |
| -3 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?But the man you're dating isn't behave exactly like you want. There's frequently a big gap between your standards (ie things that are dealbreakers) and your preferences (ie what you'd hope him to have in a perfect world); so of course you wouldn't be with a man who doesn't meet all your standards, but a man could meet all your standards while not meeting lots of preferences. So the scenario really is when a man meets all your standards but not many of your important preferences, and then you fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:55 AM |
| -4 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?But the man you're dating isn't behave exactly like you want. There's frequently a big gap between your standards (ie things that are dealbreakers) and your preferences (ie what you'd hope him to have in a perfect world); so of course you wouldn't be with a man who doesn't meet all your standards, but a man could meet all your standards while not meeting lots of preferences. So the scenario really is when a man meets all your standards but not many of your important preferences, and then you fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:54 AM |
| 0 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?But the man you're dating isn't behave exactly like you want. There's frequently a big gap between your standards (ie things that are dealbreakers) and your preferences (ie what you'd hope him to have in a perfect world); so of course you wouldn't be with a man who doesn't meet all your standards, but a man could meet all your standards while not meeting lots of preferences. So the scenario really is when a man meets all your standards but not many of your important preferences, and then you fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:54 AM |
| -5 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?But the man you're dating isn't behave exactly like you want. There's frequently a big gap between your standards (ie things that are dealbreakers) and your preferences (ie what you'd hope him to have in a perfect world); so of course you wouldn't be with a man who doesn't meet all your standards, but a man could meet all your standards while not meeting lots of preferences. So the scenario really is when a man meets all your standards but not many of your important preferences, and then you fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:54 AM |
| -2 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?there is no combination of words anyone can use to make me understand why I'm dating a man who doesn't give ME what I need, no matter what their past was. it's alien and incomprehensible to me that anyone's attitude is "well she rolls her eyes, doesn't say i love you and doesn't suck my dick BUT AT LEAST SHE WAS NEVER HOT FOR ANYONE ELSE". how can anyone expect others to sympathize with or understand this neurotic fear and attitude? But the man you're dating isn't behave exactly like you want. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:50 AM |
| 1 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?But the man you're dating isn't perfect, surely. There are definitely some behaviors from your man that bother or you or isn't perfect in your eyes, but it's acceptable and you're willing to tolerate. Now imagine that he did exhibit all the "perfect behavior" you were interested in with his ex, and his ex was much more attractive than you. That's essentially what I'm trying to get at. For example, let's say you'd like to have sex every day, but he only wants it 1-2x a week. However, you discover… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:39 AM |
| 0 | Will you give up porn in order to have the best relationship possible with a woman?Yes, I would give up porn if I ever got into any relationship. However, the entire premise of your question is wrong. Watching porn doesn't mean you objectify women, disrespect them, judge them negatively, or any of the nonsense you came up with. The men who objectify and disrespect women would likely do them even if they gave up porn. As for judging women negatively, a lot of men (including myself) primarily it them off of what women do and say themselves both in real life and online. If I were… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 06:23 AM |
| -8 | How would you feel if the guy you're dating was much more romantically/sexually enthusiastic with his ex-girlfriend?That's great in theory but in reality not everyone is in a relationship they're really, truly satisfied with. So putting yourself into this hypothetical, just assume you ended up in this hypothetical scenario due to getting into a relationship out of social pressure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 02:33 AM |
| 1 | You are not oppressed for being a woman, or a victimOf course Poland is not a relevant dataset for this discussion. Its culture compared to American culture is night and day. https://swe.org/research/2023/earning-gap/#:\~:text=Gender%20earnings%20gap:%20In%20all,of%20their%20male%20colleagues%2C%20respectively. These are not the same results. A mid-career gender pay gap doesn't say anything by itself without being adjusted for a ton of confounding factors. For example a lot of women prioritize work-life-balance more and don't push for promotions … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 12:47 AM |
| 2 | You are not oppressed for being a woman, or a victimDid you even read the abstract of your own paper? The dataset is from POLAND, a (relatively) highly conservative non-western country. That's completely irrelevant to any discussions here, which are solely about the west. LMAO, classic woman response. Next time a woman says something stupid I'll tell them that no wonder some conservatives want to take away women's rights. Deal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 12:15 AM |
| 0 | You are not oppressed for being a woman, or a victimFor 99.9999% of women, it'll never happen to you either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 12:01 AM |
| 7 | You are not oppressed for being a woman, or a victimI’ve lost two jobs because managers got erections every time they were around me Opinion automatically rejected. This simply does not happen in the real professional world. Either you made this up entirely, you're making incorrect gross assumptions about the real reason you're fired, or you're an extreme anomaly that's irrelevant to 99% of workplace environments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/24 12:00 AM |
| 3 | You are not oppressed for being a woman, or a victimIf I get a job over a man, it's because I'm infinitely more qualified. If my salary is higher than the average man, it's because I have them 3:1 in degrees Just LOL. If anything it's the other way around. DEI hiring is a HUGE presence in high-paying industries like tech and finance; in these industries, a man must be 100x more qualified than a woman to get the equivalent job. If my salary is higher than the average man, it's because I have them 3:1 in degrees Wow you're totally off your rockers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/24 11:54 PM |
| 0 | It's okay to string along women who are in their 30s..Ok sure. But then how do I know what real-world women think? These discussions on social/romantic experiences are very personal and I'm not a high-value male, so I can't get close enough to real-life women to talk to them about these topics. As I responded to the other user: "Long deep conversations" with women are only available to high-value men, since women don't want low-value men in their lives. Just think about a woman with a vibrant, thriving social and sexual life. Why on earth would she… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 01:03 PM |
| -5 | It's okay to string along women who are in their 30s..Never. But I've had plenty of conversations with women on Reddit, and also witnessed their general behavior. That tells me all I need to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:40 PM |
| 1 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.I got men to agree to meet up for a date (obviously I later canceled) and promise he was genuinely looking for a LTR, not hookup. The vast majority of men were decent and respectful in the chat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:37 PM |
| -3 | It's okay to string along women who are in their 30s..Lmao, tell that to most women. Most young women are feminists who hate men and have zero sympathy for men, and actively celebrate the male loneliness crisis, male suicide rates, etc. And yet they date just fine because most men are pathetic cucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:35 PM |
| 3 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.I've made a fake profile as a woman and this was my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:32 PM |
| 4 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.Never gonna happen. The "consequences"/"wall" are a Redpill revenge fantasy. She'll easily lock down a high earning betabux and divorce r*pe him for millions. She has absolutely no problem continuing to date tall handsome guys out her league. Or, if she wants she can have a rotation of hot young boytoys to hookup with, while her friends provide her with all the companionship she needs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:31 PM |
| 5 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.Ok? Tons of guys on dating apps are looking for relationships. If you set your profile to "looking for a LTR" and swipe left on obviously fuckboys, most guys are going to be decent, respectful, and looking for a relationship. Your "argument" holds no water. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:29 PM |
| -6 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.I'm talking about women in general not you specifically. Maybe you're an outlier, or maybe you're just consumed by victim mentality. As an outside observer not infected by the woke mind virus that causes extreme victim mentality in women, my perspective on women's lives in general is much more accurate and unbiased than yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:25 PM |
| -1 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.It's just a fact that women have life on easy mode. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:06 PM |
| 4 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.The average guy's match is just as low quality as the average girl's. This stupid "quality over quantity" mantra assumes that women's matches are lower quality than their male counterparts, which is complete misandrist BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:05 PM |
| 5 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.This is you, projecting your own fantasy. You want to fuck as many women as possible, so you assume that women also want to fuck as many men as possible. Most women aren't going through the day asking themselves "HOW MANY MEN CAN I GET TO FUK ME??" It's not flattering for women to know most men would pump a load into them. Women tend to want men who will LIKE them for their mind as their body, treat them well, and encourage them. This is you not even reading the full paragraph. Yes, most women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 12:03 PM |
| -1 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.As a average women you have to actually be nice to people to make friends, if you sit inside all day nobody is going to rescue you. You have to actually talk to people if you want friends they won't come themselves it isn't how yall say it is people won't just come to you like that People absolutely do come to you like that. All you need to do as a woman is be receptive to these social invites and somewhat bearable to be around. Meanwhile as a guy you have to actively demonstrate social value, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 11:59 AM |
| -1 | There's no reason a modern woman SHOULD date in her league. Men need to quit complaining about it and accept reality.I don't quite agree with your last sentence. Life will always be unfair, society's goal isn't to make things completely fair; there's some forms of fairness that we decide to address, while for others we don't. For example, a huge type of unfairness is the IQ/intelligence you're born with. Society deems this unfairness acceptable, so we don't address it. Meanwhile, racial segregation is also unfair, and society deems it unacceptable so it was dealt with. Similarly, western society has decided th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 11:47 AM |
| 2 | What do you think about the common assertion that many women have unrealistic standards?All three of these are a projection on your part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 09:44 AM |
| 6 | What do you think about the common assertion that many women have unrealistic standards?Half of the women on this subreddit are unattractive, misandrist, low IQ losers (and if you can't recognize that, you're probably one of them). So if these women think they're above dating their equivalent man, then yes they're stuck up bitches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 09:04 AM |
| – | Breasts: A Symbol, A Stigma,the Contradictions of Topfree Advocacy, and Dating.Yes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 09:00 AM |
| -12 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?Wow, so the average small-dicked man who's in a relationship is being abused. That's even worse than I thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 11:53 AM |
| -2 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?Copy/paste: It's very obvious what it's trying to say, I'm not sure how you can miss this. I'll just spell it out to you anyway: the expectation for small-dicked men within most relationships is that they either use a strap-on/penis extender, or forgo penetrative sex altogether and only do oral/fingering/toys. Men who have an issue with this and think it's emasculating are shamed for being insecure, selfish, entitled, etc. So the point of this post is to flip the script and ask women how they'd … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 11:50 AM |
| -3 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?It's very obvious what it's trying to say, I'm not sure how you can miss this. I'll just spell it out to you anyway: the expectation for small-dicked men within most relationships is that they either use a strap-on/penis extender, or forgo penetrative sex altogether and only do oral/fingering/toys. Men who have an issue with this and think it's emasculating are shamed for being insecure, selfish, entitled, etc. So the point of this post is to flip the script and ask women how they'd feel if it w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:41 AM |
| -1 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?By "small side of average", how big are you talking about? 6 inches? 5? I find a lot of women overestimate the average dick size, because the average size of men who date is much larger than the overall average. My post is mainly referring to <=4 inches length/girth penises, which basically no woman would be satisfied with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:39 AM |
| 2 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?Reddit. It comes up all the time on relationship subs, and men are shamed for being upset by it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:34 AM |
| -1 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?Ok, I think it's valid that you feel this way. Now what are your thoughts on the expectation for small-dicked men to either use a penis extender/cock sleeve or forgo penetration entirely in relationships? Is it fair for them to be upset by this? Tbh I don't think this is realistic. Men seem content simply having a woman in their lives. So if one man doesn't appreciate me, there are at least 2 others who will. Yes, that's unfortunately a big difference between the male and female experience. A ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:28 AM |
| -1 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?I'm glad that at least someone here got it. I swear this subreddit has negative IQ. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:26 AM |
| 2 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?What? Yes, the role reversal is a cock extender / strap on. The entire point of this post is as a response to the expectation for small-dicked men to either wear a cock sleeve or forgo penetration entirely (solely using toys and fingers/oral) in the relationship, and men who have a problem with this are shamed as insecure losers. I was asking this question to see how women would feel if she were in such the shoes of a small-dicked man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:26 AM |
| -5 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?Yes, the role reversal is a cock sleeve. The entire point of this post is as a response to the expectation for small-dicked men to either wear a cock sleeve or forgo penetration entirely (solely using toys and fingers/oral) in the relationship, and men who have a problem with this are shamed as insecure losers. I was asking this question to see how women would feel if she were in such the shoes of a small-dicked man. I'm glad you personally are consistent though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:25 AM |
| -9 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?If you don't realize that vaginas come in naturally different sizes, then you're the one who's completely ignorant about female anatomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:05 AM |
| -5 | How would you react to a partner asking you to "wear" a fleshlight because your vagina is too loose?Yes, the point of this is the role reversal. This is the exact scenario men with small dicks are placed in every relationship. Idk about a fleshlight because those things look big no way would I stick that in me. There's definitely one small enough to fit in you in this hypothetical. I would Forgo Penetration or break up If that makes us incompatible then oh well. You would be willing to forgo penetration entirely in a long-term relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Extension du Domaine de la lutteWhere I live the discourse around men is primarily about how they are mentally ill, lonely and falling behind. The conversation is about finding ways to address these problems, to help current and furure men. Funny how you left out that the discourse is always about blaming men for these problems, and the "ways to address these problems" is always to shame men even further so they address their moral failings. Men are mentally ill? That's because they don't seek therapy because of toxic masculin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 09:49 AM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.So women are narcissistic and entitled for having expectations for a potential partner. They are narcissistic and entitled for thinking they deserve a set of unreasonable expectations and that men are obligated to meet them. But you saying that ugly and low status men deserve 'excitement, enthusiasm, deep conversations late into the night, talk through his problems, fully accept him' in exchange for basically nothing. The "in exchange" is reciprocation. Somehow, this isn't you being narcissistic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 05:25 PM |
| 10 | CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too lowWhy is this user not banned yet? She posts nothing but troll content and ragebait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:46 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.No one is saying women can be fully replaced by AI. Obviously a relationship with an AI girlfriend is inferior to a genuine, loving relationship with a real woman. But I do think it's superior to lifelong loneliness, and to transactional relationships in which the man gets used for money and treated with contempt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:31 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Spot on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:29 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.The loss for women is that it's harder to extract resources from men, due to simps and betabuxes turning to AI gfs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:21 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.We're talking about replacing the dating game with an AI girlfriend, not an existing relationship with an AI girlfriend. Do you understand the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:18 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Well I'm referring to relationships not hookups, obviously for OLD hookups women mainly go for looks. But for relationships on OLD, women are mainly looking for status, meaning they 1) want you to be hot to brag about it to her friends, and 2) want to see you living a highly social flashy "party lifestyle". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:14 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Don't get too excited, the ones SAing women are the chads and fuckboys you women love so much. The SA numbers aren't going anywhere by taking beta and omega males out the pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:11 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Well modern dating is all about men completely catering to women. Men would be more than willing to compromise if women were too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:10 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Read the post, I'm not talking about any takeovers. Alphas/chads will be having sex and relationships as usual. But AI will provide a respite for beta males tired of the dating market, and omega males (incels) a way to alleviate their loneliness. In turn women still date as usual, they just have a harder time extracting resources from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:05 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.It's not fear mongering, it's simply a prediction. I even said the primary change is a benefit for men rather than harm for women. Also, the paragraph you quoted is 100% facts. Which part do you find inaccurate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:02 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.It's going to reduce the number of simps and betabuxes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:58 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.This is such a dumbass take. You're seriously telling me that an 18 year old fit guy in college should be going for 40 year old obese single moms? Btw you know that only 3% of men are these exact same qualities too, right? That doesn't somehow make them the "top 3%" and a league above the rest. Dating pools are stratified by age, location, and socioeconomic status. Leagues only exist within these strata. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:56 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Well it affects you by making it harder to extract money and resources from men. If that's not your thing, it doesn't affect you. And simps are a real thing not merely a pejorative. Simps are men with zero self respect who pedestalize women and bend over backwards to help them for no reciprocation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:51 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Lmao wtf?? Married women aren't even in the dating pool. If you're not ghetto, basically all unmarried people are in this age range are childless. And age 18-25 women are dating same age men, not 40 year old men. For age 18-25 unmarried men, these women are top 50% (or really top 70-90% depending on location and socioeconomic status). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:45 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Exactly, this is another one of my points. The main harm to women isn't incels being knocked out, it's the average guys who are simps and betabuxes. But hey they can enjoy sharing their Chads! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:41 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Hate to burst your bubble but the guys using AI gfs are already leaving you alone. The construction workers and homeless guys who catcall you aren't going to be buying these. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:40 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.There's no "threatening", it's just a prediction. wtf are you on? And again if you cared to read the post, the main harm to women is the loss of simping and betabuxes. Yes of course the top 10% Chads are going to remain in the meatspace, have fun sharing them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:35 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.They are the men who are the orbiters and simps though, who women take full advantage of. I already explained losing simps/orbiters is the main effect for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:26 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.They would be of course, but I'd imagine the winning (or at least popular) product will be something like a one time flat fee to buy a wrapper on an open source model, with additional fees only for possible optional updates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:24 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Bad analogy. If real restaurants were full of terrible waitstaff who openly cuss you out and piss in your food, and home cooking costed $1000 per meal, then yes hot pockets would eliminate these two for many people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:20 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.Can you read? Did I mention "talking dolls" at all? I'm talking explicitly about audio/video based virtual AI girlfriends for emotional connection, not physical gratification. Does this sound like a walking fleshlight to you? You could've seen by reading the literal first sentence but of course you didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 03:11 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.The men that aren't struggling romantically is like the top 10%. Even average guys who occasionally get into relationships struggle insanely hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 02:56 PM |
| – | AI girlfriends are going to completely change the dating game, and it's going to happen very soon.It's very different, because your AI girlfriend is exclusive to you and could spend as much time as you want with you. Imagine if there was a personal camgirl assigned to every man, and she's available 24/7 to talk to him for free. THAT would totally change dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 02:54 PM |
| -1 | I choose the bear. As a man myself I know what men are capable of. Debate meThat's a huge cope. Progressives control the entirety of academia, the mainstream media, Hollywood/entertainment, and the education system. Progressives hold 100% of the social and cultural power in the west; no amount of political power makes up for that. Let's face the facts, conservatism is completely dead and will never come back into the western mainstream. Conservatives could win the next 10 elections and it wouldn't change a thing. The "backlash" you dream of misandrists and feminists is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:53 AM |
| 6 | I choose the bear. As a man myself I know what men are capable of. Debate meAre you trolling or actually this stupid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 04:48 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Dating is harder for women because we have to judge if the male is safe and can protectYes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 07:50 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Keep coping to yourself, maybe you'll feel better 😂 And enjoy less making less in a year than I do in a summer. Have a nice one too! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:58 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.LOL "charity", get the fuck over yourself. Who tf do you think you are? You aren't special and nobody will care if your account disappears this instant. My post must've struck a real nerve with you. And "nobody will want to work with me"? Ok I'll tell that to my manager at FAANG this past summer who gave top reviews on my internship (even in the collaboration/teamwork aspect), and to all the companies whose interviews I've passed. What do you know, people don't say the things they do on Reddit i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:53 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.You sure are obsessed with sex aren't you. I literally never once mentioned sex in this thread. Well newsflash, not everyone else is a pervert, and it's possible to be against some things purely on principle rather for the purposes of obtaining sex. Shocking, I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:40 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.70% of the population is overweight/obese. You don't look down overweight people or think that we should? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:28 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I'm not "showing off" for the purposes of flexing. I've said multiple tines I've mediocre, a loser, etc; point me out to ONE place I said this makes me impressive or a genius. I'm making the point that if even a mediocre loser like me can do these things, then no they aren't impressive at all, and people with lesser accomplishments shouldn't feel good about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:27 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I think anyone who's a corporate drone working a useless paper pushing job is a literal bum. College education and 6 figures are not impressive at all. And this applies to both men and women, the difference is these men aren't smugly bragging about how women are intimidated by their success and need to step it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:23 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I spend a lot of time on Reddit and Instagram/TikTok. Also this is just for an internship, I'm a student. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:17 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I unironically agree with your last sentence. There's very few people who deserve to be proud of themselves, and everyone else should know their place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:15 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Men are not a monolith lol. The guys here acting like 100K is an insane amount of money are just as delusional. Don't even get me started on the idiot Redpillers who think making 6 figures makes them a "high value male" that's entitled to a beautiful woman. I think that 100K is a more than reasonable ask by a middle class woman of any age. Now I will say it's a bit high for ghetto hoodrats and trailer trash for ask for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:13 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Unironically, modern women do need to be knocked down many pegs. It seems like the average guy despises himself and understands he's a worthless loser (as he should), while the average woman thinks she's some kind of princess that the world is lucky to have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:09 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I'm annoyed that I'm on a 10x better trajectory than those women and I still have the self-awareness to realize I'm a mediocre loser, while those women who are literal bums in comparison to even me act like they're god's gift to earth (and society encourages them for it). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 04:03 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I go to a top school on par with Ivies. And I'm a student of course I haven't published groundbreaking research or founded a unicorn lmao. But also I never claimed to be impressive myself either, that's the thing. I consider myself very mediocre/unimpressive, and don't have a single positive thing to say about myself. And yet these women who are literal bums in comparison to me act like they're god's gift to earth. That's what really grinds my gears. Also nice assumptions about my "relationship … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 03:59 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Ok you're a dumbass lol. For Citadel, Jane Street, HRT, just as a few examples, the quant research internships come out to 250-350K/year prorated (including sign on). You seriously think companies paying 500-600K+ new grad are paying 100K prorated for internships? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 03:35 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Are you illiterate? I said the internship pays MULTIPLE times 6 figures PRORATED. So yes the pay itself over the summer is less than 6 figures but when prorated to salary it's 300K+. Read my comments again and you'll see how stupid you sound. Maybe work on your basic reading comprehension. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 03:28 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I don't disagree? Yes the course sellers and grifters are also pathetic. But they're not telling women off for being "intimated by their success". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 03:27 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Close to 6 figured, not quite. It's a quant research internship at a top hedge fund. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 03:16 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I agree, it's much easier. Not having the algebraic fluency to derive the quadratic formula on the spot is like not having the English fluency to parse compound sentences. The former is just much more common because the American population is atrociously mathematically illiterate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 03:13 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Lmao you all are getting so hung up on this quadratic formula thing when I'm literally mentioning it as a basic example of fundamental grade school math that anyone who calls themselves "educated" should know. It's not some kind of esoteric piece of knowledge that's difficult to remember. You'll also never need to multiply 2 digit numbers by hand in a real world setting, but if you can't do it you have zero mathematical fluency and you're definitely not "educated". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 03:11 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.You forgot the point of an education didn't you? "Educated" doesn't mean having enough knowledge to function as a corporate drone. If you don't know enough math to derive the quadratic formula or can't read well enough to understand classic novels, then yes you have no business calling yourself "educated". And as for your last paragraph, I'm making multiple times 120K at my summer internship (prorated). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 03:01 PM |
| – | Q4W: What's the downside of women having empathy for male sexlesness?Just because you're a sex obsessed pervert doesn't mean other men are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:58 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Yes to all 3 of your questions. Again I got a 1580 SAT in 6th grade lmao, then a 1600 when I retook it in high school. The vast majority of Ivy League students are also mediocre bums. Something impressive to me is like publishing groundbreaking research, founding a unicorn startup, winning Olympic medals, etc. Or for a more education focused example, I'd consider winning an IMO gold medal pretty impressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:56 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Yes a lot of bums make 6 figure salaries. If you disagree you're just a bum yourself. Just an example- in the comp sci field, Capital One and Amazon, companies infamous for hiring anyone with a pulse, pay 100-200K starting salary in the US. Decent CS students instead go to companies like Jane Street and Citadel, making 500K+ out of college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:52 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.I got a 1580 on the SAT when I was 11 years old and only knew math from my middle school algebra I and geometry classes. Again, no it's not impressive, and this type of delusional thinking is the problem with female socialization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:49 PM |
| – | Q4W: What's the downside of women having empathy for male sexlesness?No you absolute moron. Systemic and structural changes so that struggling men are assumed the same level of grace and agency as struggling women are, misandry is shamed/shunned like misogyny is, and people genuinely acknowledge the real privileges women have/problems men face for no fault of their own. I have no idea how you managed to shoehorn casual sex into this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:44 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.Only 30% of Americans are healthy weight. That's not something to brag about. Only 2% of Americans get a 1500 SAT. That's nothing to brag about either and in fact trivially easy for anyone who mastered their middle school classes. Just because it's better than the average American doesn't make it impressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:38 PM |
| – | Q4W: What's the downside of women having empathy for male sexlesness?No it's not and again that's a completely idiotic notion that women made up. When we move past individual empathy, the real ask is for systemic, structural changes in culture and discourse, not the "government mandated gf" strawman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:35 PM |
| – | It's funny how the "strong independent women" bragging about their career/accomplishments are always completely mediocre and unimpressive.No wtf? I don't even know what "MLM huns" have to do with this, that's completely out of left field lmao. I'm talking about the women who post on Reddit, Instagram, etc bragging about how well-educated/accomplished they are and how men don't measure up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:32 PM |
| – | Q4W: What's the downside of women having empathy for male sexlesness?Women having empathy for men would reduce women's status of victimhood in society, which in turns would harm them by reducing their privileges intended to compensate for this victimhood as well as the ability to use victimhood as an excuse to avoid accountability. Basically, modern female privilege in large part arises from the woke narrative that women are victims who have it harder while men are oppressors who have it easy. It benefits women for this narrative to stay as long as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:27 PM |
| – | Q4W: What's the downside of women having empathy for male sexlesness?No it's not. The notion that men asking for women's empathy secretly just want sex is utterly idiotic and just another excuse for women to justify their lack of empathy for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 02:21 PM |
| 5 | Social media is putting a spotlight on "trad" culture, which is horrifying for everyoneTrad culture is not Duggar-style Christian fundamentalism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/24 01:30 PM |
| 1 | How socially privileged are you?I am in university right now, living on campus. I do stay in my room a lot but that's because I'm never invited to anything and don't have a friend group to hang out with. For #12, I don't talk to my parents about my problems. For #7 I was just never close enough with anyone to be invited to things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 03:31 AM |
| 1 | How socially privileged are you?That's really interesting. My sister is also pretty social/outgoing, but I've never made any connections from her or met her social circle at all. (And similarly vice versa.) Could I ask what's the age gap between you and your brother, and what type of community you grew up in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 09:59 AM |
| 1 | How socially privileged are you?Huh, that's pretty strange to me. How large is the age gap between you and your siblings? My sister is 3 years younger than me and neither of us have ever talked to each other's friends; I really can't imagine me taking her to any kind of social event with my peers (or vice versa). Maybe your point about having a large/social family has some merit though. My entire extended family is on the other side of the world and I'm not really close with them; in the US it's just me, my sister, and my pare… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 09:48 AM |
| 1 | How socially privileged are you?Wow. Reading your specific responses, I'd actually put your score at 1 based on how I intended the questions to be answered. It's insanely surprising that a woman could get that low, and especially not have #3 checked off. I feel like even if a woman was an ugly, autistic, aromantic, asexual, asocial hermit, they'd at least have that one point. Could you share your story on how you missed out on so many social experiences, even as a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 05:13 AM |
| 1 | How socially privileged are you?Wow that's surprising, it's incredibly rare that a woman scores below 5 or so. Would you be able to share your story on how you missed out on so many social experiences, even as a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 05:02 AM |
| 2 | How socially privileged are you?How is it possible to have girls interested in you when you don't have a social life? Are the girls okay with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 01:25 AM |
| 3 | How socially privileged are you?Do you believe the same for the job market? Once you make an initial effort, everything trickles down and you'll have a comfortable job enough to support you? That homeless people, retail and construction workers, etc just didn't put in enough effort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 10:56 PM |
| 6 | How socially privileged are you?I wish that was the case because then I'd have strict parents as an excuse. Sadly it wasn't- my parents were pretty permissive and would've let me hang out/party/date, I just wasn't socially desirable enough to participate in these experiences. In fact my parents have chewed me out multiple timed for not having any friends or girlfriend lmao. Even now in college, when I call them they always tell me to make friends and party rather than entirely concentrating on academics. I've learned to just t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 10:51 PM |
| 2 | How socially privileged are you?I don't think they reasonably could've done anything about it. I actually played a sport on my high school varsity team all 4 years (was even next in line for captain before my injury) and on a competitive club team for 6 years, but never managed to make friends or fit into the group for either team. I was also involved with many school clubs (4 of which I was the president for), and didn't really make any friends through those either. Same with pretty much all the activities I was into- math/ph… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 10:45 PM |
| 1 | How socially privileged are you?I am aware of age being a factor, that's why a lot of the questions were about high school and college. I do agree the "have you ever" ones are biased towards older people, but I still think they're important because there's a HUGE gap between having never had some experience vs having had it infrequently. As for the rest, all the other aspects you mentioned are important factors in social privilege. I'm not trying to control for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 10:35 PM |
| 1 | How socially privileged are you?Yeah duh you know very few people who are isolated and have no friends... because these people tend not to be the ones you know lmao. Trust me these people (mainly men) exist in droves, they're just invisible to you so you're unaware of their existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 10:31 PM |
| 5 | How socially privileged are you?It's not about getting sex from random people easier. It's about having a much easier time dating and finding genuine relationships, a much easier time forming friendships and being accepted into social groups, and in general just having people be far more warm, welcoming, open, friendly, and receptive to you. These are all objective, undeniable female privileges. You don't think these privileges would make one less lonely? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 10:28 PM |
| 6 | How socially privileged are you?Yes, I completely agree with that. Personally, I would say my (and many other men's) issue fundamentally comes down to completely missing out on the social aspect of the human experience. Sex is just one small part of this. But it's not just Redpill men perpetuating the stupid idea that men's only problem is sexlessness; it's women who are always reducing men's issues down to "boo hoo you can't get your little dick wet". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 10:17 PM |
| 6 | How socially privileged are you?I'm pretty sure I'm not autistic, I usually have no issues with reading social cues, body language, emotion, etc. I also don't have any of the symptoms commonly associated with autism (eg flapping hands, hyperfocusing on one thing, etc). I think my reason for my low score is just a combination of many things- poor looks, weird voice, awkward/unaesthetic mannerisms, being somewhat quiet/nerdy, etc. I'm also not exceptionally funny, interesting, or intelligent, as I would need to be to compensate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 01:33 PM |
| 5 | How socially privileged are you?I'm definitely below average, but I'm not sure by how much. I've always been very conscious of properly abiding my social norms and being extremely friendly/respectful to everyone, so maybe my social skills just suck? But I feel like can't be THAT below average though, considering my social skills are enough to consistently pass behavioral job interviews and successfully lead many organizations, clubs, etc. Who knows, maybe I'm much worse than I thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 01:23 PM |
| 6 | How socially privileged are you?Wow that's crazy. I have a 0/15 so your life is probably like a movie compared to mine. Do you think you're especially socially successful for a woman, or close to average? How common do you think a score of 0/15 (like myself and many other struggling men have) is among women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 01:19 PM |
| 16 | For average men, getting a female partner mostly comes down to luck, everything else is insignificant.There's no such thing as a disposable woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 08:35 AM |
| 6 | Are There Really Men Who Make Over 175K A Year And Have Difficulty Finding A Mate?Lol ur in for a huge shock buddy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 06:13 AM |
| 6 | Are There Really Men Who Make Over 175K A Year And Have Difficulty Finding A Mate?Also in a HCOL area, there’s many men making six figures in consulting or finance. Yep, I don't understand the notion that 6 figure salary is somehow "high-earning" and makes you attract women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 11:38 PM |
| 5 | Are There Really Men Who Make Over 175K A Year And Have Difficulty Finding A Mate?I don't think class signifiers are a thing in America beyond middle class. If watch an interview with any prominent billionaire, politician, etc, their mannerisms and behavior are basically indistinguishable from any normal middle class/upper middle class person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 11:35 PM |
| 0 | Sex ratios matter for dating strategies for both men and women. Even seemingly small differences in sex ratios can be misleading.There are quite a few things I disagree with the bluepill on, I just disagree with the Redpill far more. Not quite sure what you mean by "the ebony capsule", I haven't heard that term before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Are There Really Men Who Make Over 175K A Year And Have Difficulty Finding A Mate?Or it just means the post hasn't gotten much traction so people didn't see it yet. Lmao. Also, not sure what you mean by the guy, there are tons and tons of high-earning men on Reddit who can't get a date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Are There Really Men Who Make Over 175K A Year And Have Difficulty Finding A Mate?Yes, there are tons of quite normal men who make this much money who are struggling very hard, particularly in STEM careers. Silicon Valley is full of FAANG engineers making 500K+ who can't get a date to save their lives. Wall Street has a lot of quant traders and researchers making millions of dollars every year who would be lucky to lose their virginity by 30. Btw, 175K is pretty much nothing these days. Any respectable upper middle class profession either starts at over that or makes that a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 11:25 PM |
| 10 | Sex ratios matter for dating strategies for both men and women. Even seemingly small differences in sex ratios can be misleading.Lmao the entire article is just bs, even at places with very high f:m gender ratios it's still winner takes all by Chads. The quote by the girl is just a classic case of non Chads being invisible. Don't even get me started on the last paragraph, it's simply insane. I'm a guy at a so called "elite college" (one of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Penn, Columbia), and I can 100% guarantee you that it hardly helps at all in dating, let alone give you "abundance". The guys here getting girls… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 11:01 PM |
| 6 | Sex ratios matter for dating strategies for both men and women. Even seemingly small differences in sex ratios can be misleading."Elite places" like... Sarah Lawrence, a no name liberal arts college with a 50% acceptance rate? 😂😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 10:43 PM |
| 2 | Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life?Many women in this very thread are agreeing with/justifying them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 05:36 AM |
| 4 | Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life?Really? You think men are evil and entitled just for an innocuous initial approach, even if he perfectly takes the hint and goes away when you say you're not interested? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 12:16 AM |
| 6 | Why Are Progressives So Bad at Marketing Their Values?And who controls the media, hollywood/entertainment, big corporations, and academia? All the political power in the universe doesn't matter when progressives dominate in social and cultural power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life?It's one thing to be annoyed and possibly frightened, it's an entirely different thing to denigrate men approaching innocuously for being "entitled" (and thus morally corrupt). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 10:11 PM |
| 3 | Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life?Are you American? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 10:09 PM |
| 10 | Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life?I think your position is perfectly reasonable. However, the overwhelming sentiment on Reddit aligns with the users quoted in my post- women who think like you are extremely rare. Do you think the quotes in my post are reflective of women's feelings in real life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 10:07 PM |
| 7 | Are Reddit women's sentiment regarding male attention reflective of women in real life?You would call the first comment "chill"??? It's normal for women to feel this way about public approaches? Remember this is about initial approaches in general, not repeated advances after being turned down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 09:53 PM |
| 0 | Why Are Progressives So Bad at Marketing Their Values?Wait until you find out the cultural areas men dominate that have influence. You mean none? Women completely dominate men in every cultural area. Men collectively have practically zero social or cultural power these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 09:07 PM |
| 24 | Why Are Progressives So Bad at Marketing Their Values?Because the core tenant of western progressive ideology is extreme self-righteousness and sense of moral superiority, along with extreme zealotry in their own beliefs with zero tolerance for possible differing perspectives. To the western progressive, their beliefs are not only self-evident but also incontrovertibly morally righteous, and everyone who dares disagree is necessarily morally corrupt and racist/misogynist/stupid. Thus, the very idea of "marketing" their ideology is anathema to progr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 08:27 PM |
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