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| 205 | Penis shaming: can we actually talk about it? | misandry | SexEleven | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/21 10:57 PM |
| 152 | Personal experience of social biases against men in academia | discussion | SexEleven | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/21 12:10 PM |
| 115 | Feminist misreading of the “you’re a pussy” insult | discussion | SexEleven | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/22 03:21 AM |
| 51 | Misandry Example: Men With Depression Just Need to Get Their Shit Together | misandry | SexEleven | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/12/21 05:15 PM |
| 17 | Ideas for a funny satire of feminist excess | discussion | SexEleven | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/22 02:59 PM |
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| 1 | Is it just me or are men not allowed to be private with their relationships anymore? I will offer more naunce and context so people can get an idea of what I meanI appreciate your effort and thought. I honestly don’t really understand the point you are making and I don’t see it. I got the feeling that this post sounded a bit like some feminist points that are a bit of a stretch, like trying to force a normal dating or social phenomenon into a sexist box. Maybe this is a generational or developmental age thing? I could see this maybe being a Gen Z high school thing? I don’t know because I am an elder millennial. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/23 12:59 AM |
| 43 | Are you partnered with a woman? Do you discuss these issues?I discuss with my partner and she is supportive. We agree on most issues. I feel sad when I read some pessimism on here because it really is possible to find female partners who have a similar mindset. The internet skews everyone’s perception. It makes you feel like the average woman will attack and cancel you for stating a basic fact about male issues, but it’s not true. That’s just the Twitter-brained radlibs when they are in front of an audience and feel they have to perform their duty for th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/23 03:15 PM |
| 6 | Thoughts on getting married (to a woman)Preach, brother. Unfortunately, identitarianism has this inherent tendency to devolve into us vs. them thinking, repeating the original mistake of the oppressor, which was us vs. them thinking. You cannot overcome otheriztion by otherizing. You cannot fight hate with hate, nor fear with fear. Two rights don’t make a wrong. All these simple wisdoms seem to be lost in today’s atomized social media culture. It’s very sad. I really believe most men can find women or men who will marry them and make … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/05/23 06:00 PM |
| 8 | Have you ever been shamed by another man (or men in your life) for showing certain emotions?Definitely all through growing up, elementary school through high school and significantly less so in college. This absolutely is a thing. We don’t need to pull a reverse pop feminism and blame it all on women. It’s American culture as a whole (and others, but I’m only comfortable talking about my own culture). All adults are responsible for changing gendered oppression. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/05/23 11:22 AM |
| 2 | Anti-male sentiment on the left from the perspective of a trans womanThis is an amazing read and should be archived for this sub. The author captures so much of what we discuss here on both the emotional and cognitive levels. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/23 06:40 PM |
| 19 | Guardian article that sums up the left's problem discussing male loneliness.I like many of your points. I don’t think that women can’t comment on or understand men’s issues just because they never lived as a man. That standpoint epistemology stuff is dangerous and just wrong. They absolutely can understand. All they need is empathy and research. It’s that simple. And men can understand women’s issues and cis people can understand trans issues, all by using basic empathy, research, and genuine relationships with people unlike themselves. I think standpoint epistemology g… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/23 01:25 PM |
| 4 | Is pornography degrading to women? Or does society just have a problem being open about male sexuality?As with most things, critical social justice types look at a small minority of bad actors and then generalize their behavior to the group they are from. Ironically, it’s the same with conservative bigots. There are indeed a small percentage of sadistic men who enjoy degrading women sexually, just like there are a small percentage of Black people who commit violent crime. Then the feminist wrongly concludes that all or most men enjoy degrading women and the conservative bigot says all or most Bla… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/23 02:22 PM |
| 10 | Should there be a push for more men to study psychology?I’m sorry the culture discouraged you from pursuing what you wanted. I think it was a bit easier for me because I did my undergrad right before campus culture got so heated and driven by critical social justice (that doesn’t use critical thinking on male and other issues). Then I took 6 years off. I will say, most students and professors have been kind and supportive, though there have been multiple times I felt a bias against me. Three big ones stand out. But I honestly think the toxic, simple-… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/23 01:39 PM |
| 55 | Should there be a push for more men to study psychology?I’m a male close to obtaining my PhD in clinical psychology. I believe the most recent numbers say that 75% of PhD students in psychology are female. I am in the Clinical Child specialty and I can tell you I am extremely rare. I am doing interviews now and often times there are about 20 applicants in the Zoom meeting and I am the only male. We definitely need more men. There are many working class and/or Black boys who are struggling in school and their community environments for reasons obvious… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/23 01:49 PM |
| 3 | To what extent is female support for men's issues desired, and how?Women are over 50% of the population and many hold lots of cultural and institutional power on these issues, so yes, winning them over is absolutely necessary. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/23 02:23 PM |
| 3 | How do I make peace with the fact that practically no one has progressive views on the role of men in society?That really sucks man. I’m sorry you got screwed over in those divorces. That sounds awful. I was more so speaking to the younger men you alluded to. Good on you for getting out and getting on with your life. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/12/22 05:37 PM |
| 10 | How do I make peace with the fact that practically no one has progressive views on the role of men in society?I can tell you are hurting and have been burned. I’m really sorry for what you’ve gone through and I can relate, although I obviously don’t know your life. I just want to say that I don’t think you, OP, or anyone here has to give up on marriage entirely. That is an extreme conclusion based on a nihilistic and overly generalizing view of women. There definitely are many women who could ruin your life with a marriage and divorce and of course men do face bias in the family courts. But there are pl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/12/22 03:33 PM |
| 19 | How do I make peace with the fact that practically no one has progressive views on the role of men in society?I’m lucky to have a female romantic partner who will listen and does empathize with all these issues. My girlfriend before her though… ice cold and ruthless. So I guess I want to say it’s possible to find women who do understand and validate you emotionally. I don’t want young men to give up hope. There are many empathetic women, they are probably just the ones who are quiet, don’t seek the spotlight, and are too nice to be given political power. Look for nice, empathetic women who are not termi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/12/22 03:26 PM |
| 1 | The soft eugenics of male-hatredWell said | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/12/22 05:29 AM |
| 29 | misandry in LGBT community?Oh wow, I never thought about it like that. That really sucks. They try to be “nice” by sparing you but inadvertently call you out as not a man in the process. That’s messed up. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/12/22 04:52 AM |
| 144 | misandry in LGBT community?I think it’s the same. The problem is that no one in these spaces thinks misandry exists. They would laugh if it were seriously proposed. Misandry to them is just social justice. As you said, the norm is to “punch down” as a way of producing “equity.” It’s a really sad mindset coming from a place of austerity and trauma. Rather than helping everyone who needs help and empathy, it is seen as not only acceptable but actually praiseworthy to scapegoat, tokenize, stereotype, and disparage men - even… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/22 08:55 PM |
| 5 | Struggling to find a place in societyYes, they would. Maybe a few would not like me as much, but they would be ones I don’t like as much anyways. I did have one close friend I was getting close with and then we talked about gender and other issues and had a big fight and she basically crucified me and showed strong misandry and extremism. So we stopped being friends at all and that was very painful. Btw I do kind of identify as a feminist. I say I am a gender liberationist and support certain strands of feminism as part of that. I … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 10:26 PM |
| 6 | Struggling to find a place in societyYour situation is rough, man, and I can totally relate. In fact, I match your exact social identity profile - white bisexual male who doesn’t fit gender roles but also doesn’t really fit in LGBTQ groups and is perceived as straight. It’s hard to find “your people”. But I would say the first step is rejecting the identity politics categorization system. Any group that organizes along those lines, consciously or unconsciously, is gonna be semi-hostile to you and/or force you to be something you ar… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/12/22 06:48 PM |
| 1 | So we understand that a major part of the incel identity is feeling unworthy of attention from women. I'd like to highlight that this is largely due to the toxic dating environment we've forced upon awkward men.100%. It’s sad how often diversity somehow doesn’t apply to men or neurodiversity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/22 03:07 PM |
| 7 | So we understand that a major part of the incel identity is feeling unworthy of attention from women. I'd like to highlight that this is largely due to the toxic dating environment we've forced upon awkward men.Yea, it’s even to the point where I feel like we will have “reputable” feminists saying in public that autism is not an excuse for making women uncomfortable. Then there are so many men who are not on the spectrum but have poor social skills due to genetics and early environment. People are so blind to their suffering because they see their awkwardness as predatory, that making a woman uncomfortable absolutely warrants a harsh humiliation in response and her discomfort is the only pain that gets… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/11/22 05:09 AM |
| 4 | 1 in 6 Hiring Managers Have Been Told to Stop Hiring White MenLol I’m a white man and I had the same thought as you. Sucks you got down voted into oblivion for pointing out an obvious exaggeration in the post title. I still don’t agree with the “deprioritizing” at this level on the basis of only two characteristics. And I’m honestly scared when I hit the job market. But I like to be honest and accurate too lol | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/22 12:54 PM |
| 3 | What happens when you "identify" as your political beliefs?It sounds like you are very reasonable and not dogmatic about it. I do think OP was highlighting “identifying” with labels, which I would argue is different than what you are doing here. That word can be used in many ways. But the sense in which OP was using it describes attaching your personal identity to labels such that a critique of the beliefs the label refers to becomes a critique of who you are as a person. It creates the personalization of politics in the style of modern neoliberal ident… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/11/22 03:08 PM |
| 4 | Finding validation in positive masculinity as a young transguyWelcome, brother! Glad you are feeling some hope and acceptance in spite of the challenges you’ve faced. That sucks that people said “ew you’re a straight man now?”. All I can say is that there are many ignorant haters out there who diss others to make themselves feel better and it is very sad and unfair that they make that choice. But just know that just because someone says something like that doesn’t mean their opinion has any value. I know it’s hard to hear those things and deal with them. B… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/11/22 09:54 PM |
| 2 | Who decides how we measure equality?Great stuff dude, keep up the good work! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/10/22 01:19 PM |
| 4 | Shower thought: If a woman lies about her intentions during sex, for example by secretly not wanting to have sex, does that mean the guy was unable to give informed consent, and was raped?I disagree with your argument. Rape is being penetrated or made to penetrate without consent. In your scenario, the man is giving consent; therefore, it can’t be rape. You used the term “informed consent”, so I assume you’re arguing he gave consent but was deceived about her intentions, so it wasn’t informed consent. That’s fine, but as far as I know, legal definitions of rape and sexual assault are not based on informed consent - they’re just based on consent. Sex isn’t a psychological experime… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/10/22 09:50 PM |
| 2 | After years of having to have conversations with feminists and understand their perspectives - I have given up.I gotcha. I agree that empathy is paramount and people are absorbed in their own lived experience by default. I still think self-absorbed has negative connotations that are unhelpful. The term is usually used as an insult suggesting that someone is especially selfish and shallow. I think the irony of the situation depends upon whether you interpret OP as being self-absorbed or not and whether you believe everything is subjective or not. In your interpretation, it is ironic. In mine, it is not. I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/10/22 11:57 PM |
| 9 | After years of having to have conversations with feminists and understand their perspectives - I have given up.You seem to point to feminist and their perspective as something that hold you back from being recognised but from your message, all I got is that you're angry they're self absorbed (which is a little ironic and very > understandable as it's a surprisingly very common experience). For me, it was this line that came across as mean. You are implying that OP is self-absorbed. Then you criticize OP by claiming it is ironic for him to get angry at self-absorbed feminists while being self-absorbed him… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/10/22 02:42 PM |
| 12 | After years of having to have conversations with feminists and understand their perspectives - I have given up.I think you’re being a bit mean to OP who just opened up about life threatening illness and depression. I also disagree with your claim about objectively ranking the seriousness of issues being impossible. If by “objective” you mean mind-independent or “from a God’s eye view”, then yes you are right. But if you mean what most people mean when they say it (I.e. according to the preponderance of scientific evidence), your claim is absurd. What is more serious, a paper cut or being violently beaten… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/10/22 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Is it time we talked about male heroism?Anyone else remember the NY subway hero? He jump on the tracks and covered the body of a woman having a seizure as the train barreled over them. They both survived. I’m glad he got huge recognition and he was also super humble about it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/10/22 01:00 PM |
| 13 | Bias against reserved menI feel you man. It’s because there has been no mens liberation movement. Feminism liberated women from gender roles so that they are praised for taking on traditional masculine ways of being, even one’s decried rightly as mean, selfish, arrogant, etc. But men were never liberated. Men are still viewed as pussy/gay/weak/loser/failure if they embody traditionally feminine ways of being. But it’s not everybody. There really are women out there who will be attracted to you for who you really are and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/09/22 09:51 PM |
| 3 | Why do you think most women are hostile about manly traits but seem to be attracted to them?My experience is very similar to yours. Red Pill has these big kernels of truth because it was based on evolutionary psychology. They go wrong when they stray from the science and get emotional and tribal. Jordan Peterson is totally unhinged now, but I followed his YouTube in 2015 and found a great video editorial he did on The Agenda (a Canadian TV program). He sums up this dynamic really well. Some stuff I disagree with, but the main thrust is spot on https://youtu.be/LjjAdCbZKbU | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/22 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Any idea what might help against male self-hatred?I remember that Scott Aaronson post so well! That was such a defining moment for me. I remember reading it in college and completely identifying with so much of what he went through. I was like “wow finally someone gets it and says it out loud”. And then he was utterly eviscerated. I guess that was my “red pill” moment (not the pickup artist movement, just generically). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/08/22 02:51 AM |
| 19 | My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother revealsWhat a messed up story. So sad and ridiculous. Good for the mother for writing this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/07/22 03:06 AM |
| 5 | Why are unsolicited dick picks seen as such a big deal? Perspective of a not 100% straight guyI think everyone is misunderstanding your point. You said it’s wrong and I agree. But you are saying people exaggerate the harm. I also agree. I don’t think it causes permanent psychological damage or anything. It causes offense and outrage at breaking a taboo that then gets described as if seeing a penis is deeply traumatizing. I think in reality it’s deeply offensive to most people and gross, but that doesn’t equate to harm. I think this is the product of our deep Christian sentiments around s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/07/22 12:30 PM |
| 2 | Should we make erections normal?I like your idea overall and have a few additions. You said, “Erections are not sexual”. I wouldn’t go that far. I would say erections are not always sexual. That way we can be taken seriously because there’s a huge correlation, it’s just not 1-to-1 (especially in teens as you say). And I would also specify that erections don’t alway coincide with subjective sexual arousal. This is true of females too, who can experience their body being sexually aroused but their subjective experience is of no … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/07/22 12:45 PM |
| 11 | Help me understand rhetoric surrounding men emotionally "opening up"The rule for many pop feminists is this: if the “opening up” makes me feel good, then it’s good. If the “opening up” makes me feel uncomfortable, then it’s bad. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/07/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Some common gender myths and their rebuttalsThis was an amazing post. You educated me on a lot of issues. For example, I had no idea mothers are more likely to perpetuate child maltreatment or that boys are equally likely to be human trafficking victims. That makes me wonder. I wonder if this helps explain why sexual abuse gets much more attention and is seen as more harmful than physical and emotional abuse/neglect. I always thought it was the Christian view of sexuality that drove. Now I wonder if it’s also sexist, since girls are more … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/07/22 10:11 PM |
| 2 | Horseshoe theory between conservatives and (old-school) feminists on the trans issueYea totally, I agree. I don’t deny that there are transwomen or pretend-transwomen predators and women have a right to feel uncomfortable or afraid about the prospect of a person with a penis in their same-sex space. I am even in favor of the right to have “vagina only” or “penis only” spaces. But the moral panic and the failure of anyone to call it out is the frustrating part. What are the objective odds of being sexually assaulted in a female bathroom? I bet it’s like getting struck by lighten… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/07/22 06:58 PM |
| 7 | Horseshoe theory between conservatives and (old-school) feminists on the trans issueInteresting points. Yea, it always sticks out to me how feminists point to a handful of cases of transgender women sex offenders and then say “see, these are all predators just like men! If even one woman is victimized that means 100% are in danger and 100% of men and trans women are predators waiting to pounce.” Obviously that’s just the shrill voices, but it’s scary how influential they are and it’s just a really view of humanity | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/07/22 01:18 AM |
| 6 | Why be on the Left when modern leftism is a virulently anti-male movement?They are not the left. Don’t let them win. You are referring to identitarian neoliberals. In my experience, the more materialist, the less identitarian, so I’m curious who these so called communists are who hate men so much. Also, labels are bullshit for most people. Many people are not principled in how they label their beliefs and treat the labels more like belonging to cliques based on pop understandings, not scholarly understandings. So ignore those fools. Only join campaigns you believe in,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/06/22 11:30 AM |
| 12 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellYes. One man figured this out perfectly. His name was Richard Rorty. Read “Achieving Our Country” by him. He wrote it back in 1994 and perfectly predicted the problems with the “cultural left” that replaced the “reformist left” after the Vietnam War. He even predicted the inevitable right wing populist reaction to this cultural left and the rise of an authoritarian “strong man” who would take advantage of the resentment from working class whites who had been screwed over for 40 years while being… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/06/22 11:58 AM |
| 22 | Being a left-wing male advocate is a special kind of hellIt is white rich girl feminism, you’re right. I think the whole neoliberal identitarianism movement is a class project. It is a smoke screen to cover the obvious reactionary ruling class politics packaged with it. It is a Trojan horse. Diversify the ruling 1% so the 99% can be screwed even more while their kids can “see themselves” in the rulers. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/06/22 11:51 AM |
| 2 | Ideas for a funny satire of feminist excessWhat is that? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/22 04:53 PM |
| 2 | The vast majority of biphobia is just completely unveiled misandry100%. I’m glad I met you. I feel the exact same and haven’t heard anyone else share feelings quite like this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 01:43 PM |
| 2 | The vast majority of biphobia is just completely unveiled misandryWow, I relate to your struggles and perspectives so much. You know what is total fucking bullshit? “Straight presenting”. That’s not a thing! Jesus Christ, they think it’s somehow progressive to believe in there is one true way to present as gay/bi/pan/whatever? You can only be truly queer if you force yourself into some arbitrary stereotype? What is wrong with the world? God damn, these people are Regina George from Mean Girls. What they say and believe has nothing to do with pride or liberatio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | The vast majority of biphobia is just completely unveiled misandryWow, I want to tell people that some LGBTQIA+ people feel this way (not just me), but I’m scared they won’t believe me and just pull the straight presenting privilege stuff on me or claim I’m speaking for others. But I knew this was true! Just validating to hear it from someone else | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/03/22 03:42 AM |
| 17 | What is the easiest, most irrefutable, position to have for male advocacy?It troubles me that this comment was downvoted so much. He’s just asking normal questions. I also don’t know what duhhh was specifically referring to with that statement. We should not be a cancelation community. Please for the love of all that is holy do not turn this into a mirror image of toxic feminist spaces that would do this exact thing to someone asking for evidence | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/22 06:52 PM |
| 4 | What do you think about the term and application of "intersectionality"?Intersectionality is a useful term for legal theory. Crenshaw’s argument for unique workplace discrimination of Black women on the basis of their intersecting race and sex was revolutionary and helpful. But when it comes to broad social analysis or creating a worldview, it is a flashy new word for multivariate thinking. Any social scientist will tell you that of course every human phenomenon is explained by multiple variables and these variables interact. Interaction effects are taught in stats … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/22 02:39 PM |
| 18 | The "getting bitches" insult is getting incredibly frustratingYea I agree. The difference is that women expect to be courted and won over. You are tasked with proving your worth to them. And they will more often do subtle things to test you. It makes it much more stressful. It’s not the same with men. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/02/22 11:44 AM |
| 2 | What's the thing with postmodernism?I think that in principle, all of them could use rationality and the scientific method, but very often do not. I don’t have time to define them now, but I’ll say that I believe the philosophy of pragmatism is the only way forward. It is the one philosophy that can take the benefits of your list along with the benefits of the scientific method while jettisoning the useless and counter productive aspects. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/22 01:06 PM |
| 9 | A few interesting perspectives on when attacks on "harmful masculinity" are just an attack on masculinity.This is correct. Females, on average, are more emotionally expressive, less emotionally stable (Big Five personality trait), and more vulnerable to emotion-based psychopathology like depression, anxiety disorders, etc. That fact, however, says nothing about how much is caused by genes, environment, and their interactions. I suspect the difference is genetic but it gets much bigger by nurture. The biggest difference is that when men cry, complain, or are too expressive, people will target them wi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/22 01:42 PM |
| 22 | The Idea of Toxic Masculinity being touted as universally bad has inherent racist implicationsYou made really good points. This needs to spread more. Many feminists would probably respond like “All the bad stuff you listed is due to racism, it has nothing to do with you being a man. In fact, your male privilege protects you.” But that’s total bullshit. The easiest way to see how intersectionality fails is to compare black men and black women. Intersectionality says black women should be more oppressed in every way. But black men are far, far more likely to be murdered, falsely accused, k… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/22 04:32 AM |
| 3 | Mention men, and you're instantly dismissedI recommend you give up on trying to change minds on social media. It is designed not to work and more attempts will probably leave you more frustrated and hopeless. I wish I had a better solution, but all I’ve got rn is try any kind of in person activism instead. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/22 01:34 PM |
| 6 | the idea that ~90% of rape victims are women is most often based on statistics that exclude male victims. And it's often feminists that push for that exclusion.I had no idea. That’s so messed up and depressing and sadly not surprising | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/22 03:04 PM |
| 7 | the idea that ~90% of rape victims are women is most often based on statistics that exclude male victims. And it's often feminists that push for that exclusion.I was thinking the same thing | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/22 11:28 AM |
| 16 | the idea that ~90% of rape victims are women is most often based on statistics that exclude male victims. And it's often feminists that push for that exclusion.Holy shit, I was honestly expecting this to be an exaggeration because it’s so ridiculous but OMG that woman is evil. She describes the experience of a man being drugged by a woman and waking up with her naked on top of him and his penis inside her as “unwanted contact.” That’s equating it to someone brushing against a stranger’s arm in the subway. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/01/22 04:06 AM |
| 12 | For bi and other LGBTQ guys, do you ever feel weirdly tokenized/fetishized by feminism?I’m an agender queer/pan white male. I only label my sexuality and gender when I need to and I don’t tell people unless they are close friends because of something like this. They see me as cis het white male and so basically bad and not worthy of sympathy. When I have told some people, they all the sudden change and see me as more worthy of sympathy and respect. It’s bullshit, so I decided to stick with only telling my close friends because I don’t want to support the underlying idea that all s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/01/22 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Misandry Example: Men With Depression Just Need to Get Their Shit TogetherI acknowledge I didn’t have proof of the double standard for sale of direct comparison. But as I said, it’s not the advice. It’s the tone and the total lack of any acknowledgement or sensitivity to obvious mental health issues of depression and trauma history. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/12/21 12:49 AM |
| 2 | Fact checking ourselvesThanks for the reply. Those are good points, and I agree for the most part. What if we simply used the term misandrist feminists to label the kind we oppose? Or we could clarify that we support gender liberation and equal rights for genders while opposing misandrist beliefs, whether held by conservatives or feminists. I honestly think most people who call themselves feminists or say they support it don’t think very hard about it and wouldn’t be able to identify different subtypes. In real life (… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/21 12:37 PM |
| 16 | Fact checking ourselvesI really like this post and agree it’s important. One trope I see is not recognizing the many types of feminism and feminists and instead treating the irrational man-hating feminists as representative of all feminists. This is a classic emotional backlash dynamic. Some feminists have done it to us, equating all men with concern for misandry and critiques of strains of feminism with misogynistic maniacs and blood thirsty incels. So then we have a tendency to hit them back with a taste of their ow… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/12/21 03:13 AM |
| 7 | The totally unrealistic standards of many single womenOf course they have the right, just as men have “the right” to hit it and quit it with every young, vulnerable woman they can find and feel no shame. That doesn’t mean it’s right. I think the OP is making an important point about asymmetrical cultural pressure. The evolved sexual reproduction strategies of females are not challenged to the same extent as those of males. Men are made to feel shame if they focus too much on appearance, go for the youngest women they can, hit it and quit it, etc. I… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/21 07:13 PM |
| 1 | I know Douglas Murray is a conservative figure and thoughts on many of his controversial viewpoints may vary here, but he is 100% spot on with this take that he did with Chris Williamsson about a year ago.The American Psychological Association defines non-binary in the first paragraph here: https://www.apa.org/about/policy/resolution-gender-identity-change-efforts.pdf | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/12/21 04:16 AM |
| 1 | I know Douglas Murray is a conservative figure and thoughts on many of his controversial viewpoints may vary here, but he is 100% spot on with this take that he did with Chris Williamsson about a year ago.Detransitioners do exist and some do cite social contagion. The question is what percentage. But I want to challenge you on your non-binary stance. What does it mean to “not believe” in the non-binary concept? Do you understand that biological sex and gender identity are not the same? Are you aware that intersex people exist, which shows empirically that there are not just two sexes? And that in gender identity, expression, and roles are not distributed bimodally with no overlap, but rather on a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/12/21 02:46 PM |
| 3 | Why are men born with a foreskin?Do handjobs hurt less if you are uncircumcised? I needs tons of lube and then it feels amazing, but my gf always likes to grab my circumcised dick before lube and it just hurts | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/12/21 02:03 PM |
| 2 | A wild rideI think the cookie analogy should go a little more like this… A man has a cookie and a woman has half a cookie. They both want to eat exactly one cookie. The man says, “Hey, how about I break my cookie into fourths and give you one so that we both have 3/4 of a cookie?” The woman replies, “Ugh, mansplaining from a place of privilege, could you be more misogynist?” The man begins defending himself: “Umm I was just trying to communicate the method by which we achieve equali—“ She cuts in, “And now… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/12/21 02:43 PM |
| 5 | Have feminists actually directly killed people like other groups?Interestingly, when you Google her name, there are almost no stories that list this as the motive. The only one I could find was a New Zealand newspaper that said she told police she didn’t want them to grow up to be abusers. That being said, I haven’t seen any evidence that she is feminist. She was repeatedly raped growing up, so mental illness and revenge are more plausible causative factors. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/12/21 03:45 PM |
| 15 | I just read a perspective on male suicide that astonished meThis reminds me of a google search I did on male suicide research a while ago. The first result that came up from a Ph.D. research psychologist explained disproportionate male suicide by linking it to "male fragility." It was a female psychologist, she had a PhD, and this was her research specialty. Jesus christ, talk about blaming the victim. Can you imagine if women killed themselves 4 to 6 times more and a male psychologist researched the link between this and female fragility? Also, I'm actu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/21 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Seeing Male Homophobia as Internalized MisandryI 100% agree that violent aggression is not an essential characteristic of being a man. That’s why I said it’s only a tiny fraction of men. If it was an essential characteristic, it would be all men. I also agree much has to do with social factors and I believe with the proper socialization, we can almost entirely eliminate violent crime in men. And I believe many feminists and women promote a dominant culture that makes the proper socialization impossible by pushing toxic masculinity discourse,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/09/21 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Seeing Male Homophobia as Internalized MisandryI’m sorry you had those painful experiences. I’m gonna say something that might be unpopular in this sub, but I don’t think it should be. Physical or sexual assault by men is perceived as more dangerous than that of women because it is. On average, men are much bigger and stronger. Thus, the threat of potentially being physically overpowered and severely assaulted is much higher. The male population commits about 10x more violent crime than the female population and almost every single serial ki… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/09/21 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Body-Shaming Rears Its Ugly Head At The Majority ReportMajority Report is trash. Good article | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/09/21 03:13 AM |
| 4 | How I Went From Being Anti-Masculinity YKW to Being A Pro-Humanity Individual. Pt 1 [My Story]This is extremely interesting. Thank you for your honesty and vulnerability. I can’t wait for part 2. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/21 10:33 AM |
| 7 | How I Went From Being Anti-Masculinity YKW to Being A Pro-Humanity Individual. Pt 1 [My Story]I agree about the fashionista/cult point. I think it’s the same for many movements and their labels. People are often one issue voters, maybe two, and use one ideology as a sort of religious cosmology. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/09/21 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Personal experience of social biases against men in academiaThanks man, I appreciate the sympathy | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/21 11:52 PM |
| 21 | Personal experience of social biases against men in academiaWow, that’s so reassuring you think about it the same way, especially the way you cope with it. I often try to view it the same way and I’ve never met anyone who does the same - just seeing them as children who don’t know any better and don’t know they are doing it. I swear it has its roots in the family. I noticed it in mine. My mom and sisters used my dad as a whipping post for their emotions and still are totally oblivious to it and how he put in the effort to patiently take the blows because… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/09/21 03:07 PM |
| 2 | If intersectionality was to include men (without the blame game that usually goes on, currently), would you support it or not?It depends on what type of intersectionality. It’s a word like critical race theory which people use very differently. There is Crenshaw’s original definition which was an innovation in discrimination law stating it’s possible for employers to discriminate against black women specifically in a way that is different than simply discriminating against women as a whole and black people as a whole. Then there is the pop wokeism version which we probably all think is oversimplified and problematic in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/09/21 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Left Wing Male Dating Advice - That actually worksLol cool, that’s what I thought. I was pretty confused when I saw all the top comments were not about what you asked for | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/09/21 01:32 PM |
| 5 | Left Wing Male Dating Advice - That actually worksOh weird, the OP said at the end that he wants to use this post to put together a guide to dating that isn’t steeped in red pill ideology and PUA that actually works. Did I misread that? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/21 11:37 AM |
| 4 | Left Wing Male Dating Advice - That actually worksI was awful at dating and attracting girls from 10 - 21 and then got pretty good at it 22 - 30. So I feel I have a pretty good perspective having been scared, depressed, and unconfident for years, then improving drastically. Much of the redpill stuff comes from evolutionary psychology but has often been dressed up in a morality left-wing men like us find objectionable. It’s like a frat bro libertarianism. So just forgo that bro’d out dressing and read up on evolutionary and social psychology of … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/09/21 02:07 AM |
| 1 | Penis shaming: can we actually talk about it?I agree ☝️ | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/21 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Penis shaming: can we actually talk about it?Hey man, yea I don’t want to fight about this. I can agree to disagree but I have to clarify my position because I don’t agree with how you summarized it at the end. I agree with the thrust of your last sentence except what you are calling bigotry I call targeted intervention in this case and many others. I support targeted programs in some cases and universal programs in some cases. I don’t think that on principle the NAACP can never be excused and should not exist because it’s an organization … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/09/21 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Penis shaming: can we actually talk about it?Good call, I didn’t factor in costs when I made my quick statement. While I do think various types of feminism have come with great costs to men, I don’t think the same can be said of the body positivity movement. That movement helps women at little to no cost to men (if you disagree, feel free to share examples). So then your analogy doesn’t work because the net result of hitler was extremely negative even though he helped tons of Nazi’s because his leadership led to killing tens of millions. E… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/21 02:56 PM |
| 3 | Penis shaming: can we actually talk about it?My thinking is that helping 50% of people is better than 0% and helping 100% is better than 50%. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/09/21 01:56 PM |
| 1 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakOh nice | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/21 01:58 AM |
| 3 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakRedpill/MGTOW did not invent the term Hypergamy. It’s been used by social scientists since at least 1960 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/001872676001300106?casa_token=hFio3CIO2f0AAAAA:be4ImR1o6FC1I_Wg5yIZt9SqdXYVmI1X_x_GzZ-xVkT7_cXjGkcNRgyc11AincTASy6BQWfNOGw5 So maybe you can try introducing the term like “There’s this term in social science called hypergamy which describes how women mate across and up dominance hierarchies.” | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 11:12 AM |
| 7 | The myth of incels and self-worthI love your point about the erasure of loneliness and the human need for affection. Incels are largely lonely, depressed, and anxious men with no hope. Demonizing them is the same thing as calling a depressed person lazy. It’s blatant mental health stigma meets “toxic masculinity” I.e. men can’t have soft feelings and if they do, they should be punished. The irony of toxic masculinity discourse is that it is often the creator of toxic masculinity culture. It’s blaming the victim and gaslighting … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 01:03 PM |
| 47 | Swiss Cheese Masculinity and The Romantic IdealI liked your breakdown with the diagrams and really liked some points you made. When reading the LinkedIn posts, however, I was honestly repulsed. Any time someone evokes the “real men do X”, I wanna puke. Real men are strong and dominant. Nope. Actually real men are kind and always put women first. Still no. Ok, real men are the perfect balance of strong and nice, yin and yang? NO! There’s no such thing as a “real” fucking man. All men are real men. We’re all fucking real. Jesus H. Can you imag… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/21 11:30 PM |
| 2 | On the sexual assault of menThe thing I’m curious about is what level of intoxication counts as inability to consent as well as how they count cases where both people are intoxicated. I say this because I think this is used to overestimate number of male perpetrators and so it might being doing the same to female perpetrators. Saying all this as a male who has been sexually assaulted by women and men, btw, but also someone who has had plenty of drunk sex where we were both drunk and definitely still able to consent | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/21 11:55 AM |
| 9 | A common response to males committing suicide 3x times as often as women is “That’s because men choose more violent & lethal methods”, with misandrist implications that it’s a result of men being inherently violent. In reality, studies show that even using the same less-lethal methods, men die more.I’ve thought about this a ton since I’m a male and was suicidal around age 19 and now I’m training to be a psychologist. I’m so happy someone else has noticed this. I remember when I first heard this stat and the lethal means explanation, my gut reaction was that men simply want to die more, that they are in so much pain and really want to die and not be rescued, so they use a gun. I was drawing from my own experience because I had suicidal thoughts every day and I knew that if I’d do it, I’d re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/21 05:23 PM |
| 3 | I (MtF) just got banned from a transgender sub for arguing that it is mostly misandry, and not misogyny, is the true cause of the rampant discrimination against transsexual womenExtremely interesting take. Please make your own post | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/21 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Cringe culture and the victimisation of neurodivergent menJust speak up in a polite, firm way explaining why it is unjust. You have the moral high ground. They might try to dismiss by saying the person isn’t really on the autism spectrum, but if you have proof, you can make them look like a total ass for making fun of someone with a disability. EDIT: not saying this is easy. I tried explaining this dynamic once with my feminist sister and she got really triggered | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/08/21 04:09 AM |
| 162 | /r/misandry has been banned.Wow. What a fucking world we live in. It’s so obvious that misandry exists and people want to voluntarily talk about how it affects them and Reddit’s like “No, you’re evil for feeling pain. Fuck off.” | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/21 08:46 PM |
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