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DiscussionShaenon/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:07 PM
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Well, stop doing it. We're not impressed. You did pollution to impress girls? That was a terrible idea! Girls love breathing!
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 09:28 AM
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When trying to prove how much smarter you are than women, it helps to know the names of the two women you've kind of heard of. If I were stranded on a desert island I would still be a feminist and have a cunt. Amish women have 'em too.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 09:24 AM
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When looking for rational, non-emotion-based information on dating, always go with the guy who uses phrases like "shitty super-sluts."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 07:37 PM
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Wait, why is this an "Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks" story? The unemployed hippie guy is an alpha? Mr. Perfect is a beta? Why? Your aunt settled for a guy who wasn't that great, it didn't last, and then she hooked up with an awesome alpha guy. At 40, no less. That's like the inverse of Red Pill reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 07:32 PM
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Believe me, people shit on women for their relationship choices at least as much as they shit on men. Are you even on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 07:24 PM
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Ha ha, yeah. Although my grandma was much more interested in the girls in the family getting an education. She always regretted that her parents blocked her from going to college because they thought it was a waste of money for a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 07:19 PM
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Nah, there are tons of awesome men around. Most people outside of Reddit are pretty cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 07:14 PM
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Update: still not having sex with Red Pill Man. Getting impatient now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 07:11 PM
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"Even if they are at fault however, it doesn't imply men are at fault when getting divorced." Why not? Those men should have known better than to marry a woman who would later leave them. Just like a woman should know better than to marry a man who would later beat her. Most men who beat their wives aren't criminals. Except for breaking the laws against wife-beating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 07:07 PM
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Some women are bad at choosing partners and blame men. Some men are bad at choosing partners and blame women. The only difference is that the men got together and created an entire weird "Matrix"-themed online cult around blaming women, whereas the women mostly just post frowny faces on Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 07:17 AM
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So you treat women like children, thus driving away all the women who want to be treated like goddamn adults, and now you're baffled as to why the women who are left hanging out with you seem immature? What a mystery. If your superior male logical brain can't figure that one out, no one can.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 06:34 AM
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Most men are not "fueled by anger" and "just plain don't mind" hurting people. Most men are cool and nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 06:08 AM
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It's women's fault when they get beaten? Okay. Then it's men's fault when they get divorced. P.S. Responding with a shrug to domestic abuse is a pretty good sign that you're not one of the poor underappreciated non-bad-boy nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:47 AM
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The man must have branch-swung from some nice beta girl, proving that men are incapable of honor or love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:34 AM
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But it goes beyond that. If you prove yourself to be a high status man, you can get regular threesomes, dirty raunchy behavior, hot sweaty passionate sex from any woman. Okay. I'm a woman. Use your high status to get sex from me. Sweaty passionate sex. Hurry up. I'm waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 05:26 AM
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Dude, you're not allowed to play video games and fart around on Reddit. Your life now revolves around making your wife happy. The house needs to be sparkling clean when she comes home, the kids need to be clean and perfectly behaved, and you are not to complain about anything. If you fail to please your woman, she can divorce you and leave you destitute, and it will be 100% your fault for choosing poorly. This is how my grandmother lived. It was what she was raised for. It was so much fun that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:40 PM
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The League of Women Voters isn't a feminist organization. It's a nonpartisan organization that analyzes political issues and shares information to voters. It's best known for overseeing the presidential debates every four years. In other words, this isn't the feminist stance on the bill; it's the stance of political analysts trying to be as nonpartisan as possible and analyze whether it's a good bill to vote for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:32 PM
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How awesome would it be if RPers modeled themselves on Warren Buffet? All saving responsibly and supporting worthy charities. If it helps encourage them, Buffet was in a poly relationship with two women until his wife's death.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:21 AM
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Custody should be based on the best interests of the children. Ideally that means something like 50/50 custody, but not always. I don't think alimony is worthwhile except for a short period to help a stay-at-home partner until they get back in the workforce. How many divorces these days even include substantial alimony?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:18 AM
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Okay, so... Would you agree to forego any sort of money-making career and ALSO wait on your partner hand and foot, attending solely to her needs, plastering a big fake smile on your face no matter how miserable you are, if it meant your partner could leave you at any time and you'll be destitute? Because if that seems like a good deal to you, you're welcome to it. Find a rich old lady looking for a boy toy. They're out there. You just need to make the right choice, because if you choose the wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:14 AM
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What are they supposed to do, walk around crying and apologizing for being unworthy of your boner? Nobody has to feel bad. You're probably okay-looking too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:08 AM
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I could say just as easily that men don't love women. They "love" the best deal they get, whichever woman has the blondest hair and the biggest boobs. This is extremely obvious by the amount of work women have to do to look good for men, while men sit back with boner in hand expecting to be impressed. How is possible to conclude men love women when a man doesn't do anything but evaluate how "hot" she is to him? ...Of course, I wouldn't say that, because that would describe only the saddest and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:04 AM
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Because that's what keeps society ticking. It's optimally beneficial for everyone. "Optimally beneficial" for whom? Personally, I got a lot of benefits from being able to sleep around before I got married, and to marry the guy I loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:01 AM
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There are large amounts of blogs where women encourage each other to cheat on their partners? Can you point me to some?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:56 AM
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They love double standards when they're whining about women doing the exact same things they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:54 AM
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For a while I hoped to offer, by sharing my small store of hard-earned wisdom, a glimpse of a healthier, humane approach to life, one that involved treating other people (even female people!) with decency, a life built on moral and intellectual growth, curiosity, and appreciation of our brief time together on this fragile planet. Naturally, that went nowhere, and now I post when I'm drunk and need a laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:51 AM
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Doing most of the shopping does not equal having most of the financial power. Do housekeepers have more power than their employers because they buy the groceries?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:45 AM
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If you're being "dominant" in a way that somehow breaks the law, you should probably stop doing that. There's plenty of BDSM fun to be had without risking arrest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:43 AM
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Dominatrixes have huge client bases because lots of men prefer dominant women. If most women prefer dominant men, there would be large numbers of women paying to be dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:41 AM
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Is this something that has ever happened, or is it what you wish would happen to a women who rejected you so you can say no and laugh in her face? In reality, she should have AAA. It solves so many imaginary problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:37 AM
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I think most women would have expected him to do it. Most women would expect any man to help any woman in that predicament. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:33 AM
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I mean, you don't have to help someone if you don't want to. But if you'd help a male acquaintance with a flat tire even if he refused to blow you, maybe you could help a female acquaintance too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:32 AM
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Human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:30 AM
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But those things aren't real. They're stuff misogynists tell each other to convince themselves women are too scary to date. Come to think of it, that's kind of useful. I approve of your curriculum for horrible men who need to be encouraged to stay away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:26 AM
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Ha ha... Reading RP stuff, I've often had the same thought. I know guys the RP fellows would almost certainly consider "alpha," and none of them are dicks to women. They enjoy dating. They enjoy women's company. Mistreating women so they can brag about it to sad assholes on Reddit would seem utterly bizarre to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:25 AM
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Are they really just angry women hating jerks who can't get laid? No. Some of them get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:09 AM
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Oh, sorry, 22? You're very mature. I apologize for doubting that you know how adults live and think. No, seriously, why do you think you can't go to the Bahamas when you're 40? Because you totally can. I'm almost 40 and I'm pretty sure they'll sell me a plane ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:06 AM
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Most men who seek custody get it. Look it up. I know the manosphere says otherwise, but out in the real world society is eager for men to be involved in their children's lives as long as they're not abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:03 AM
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So there were "right" women in the 2000s? The 1990s? Just give me a year. I'm pretty old, so I was probably around for it. I hate to tell you this, but there have been women with self-respect for decades now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:02 AM
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Also: I'm a big fan of sex, don't get me wrong, but there's a lot more to "a life worth living." Yeesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:00 AM
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You think most men aren't "doing well enough" unless they kill all the other men in the vicinity and hope this convinces girls to date them? This is seriously the weirdest place on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 06:00 AM
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Terrifyingly so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:58 AM
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No. Women are a different kind of life form, whose emotional, moral and mental make up is very different from men's. In what way is it different?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:58 AM
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What is the schism? When did it take place? I cannot wait to find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:58 AM
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Tattoos on men are a major red flag. A man with tattoos has covered his body in scars and graffiti without even CONSIDERING how it might affect his attractiveness to women, which is a man's only source of value. Such a man has horrifically misplaced priotities. He might even think his body belongs to him, and is not a gift to be presented to the woman who will eventually own him! Ugh! What alpha woman would marry such a selfish slut? Just kidding. I love tats and dig any ink you've got going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:57 AM
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Why are big tits more natural than small tits?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:48 AM
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Fine by me. I find dudes hot, so I understand why other people would feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:45 AM
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Most women? Source. Porn. AKA the place most RP guys get all their information about women and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:45 AM
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It's like if you ever hear a guy talk about the girl who dumped him who was such a bitch. Then you realize she's just your run-of-the-mill nice girl who was only a "bitch" because she didn't bend over backwards for him. I've heard this version far more often than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:42 AM
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Ghomeshi's a rapist. Women weren't attracted to him. They were raped and harassed.. If you're sitting around feeling jealous of him, you need to seriously reexamine your life and priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:40 AM
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Women aren't rewards. They're people. Unfortunately, people can often be bullied and beaten into staying in shitty situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:37 AM
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The Red Pill is built around the juvenile fantasy of being a total asshole and getting praise and admiration for it. I assume most of these college boys will grow out of it when they develop an interest in anything beyond their own boners, but then I see middle-aged dudes bragging about what creeps they are and just have to shake my head sadly and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:35 AM
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What the hell are you talking about? Every human being is worthy of basic respect. Don't be a shit to people. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:31 AM
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No. If you're an asshole to someone else in my presence, I'm going to kick your ass. That's my duty as a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:28 AM
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In what way does women's "value" go down? I'm awesome and getting awesomer. The women I know are much the same. You sound boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:27 AM
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Not really. It's better to have no asshole at all so the rest of us can get some much-needed work done.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:24 AM
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If you're any kind of guy, PUA is pretty useless. Just talk to some women! I swear it's not that scary! Some of them will even like you! And no, don't be an asshole! Why do you people try to deal with everything by being an asshole? (I know, I know. It's because you're assholes. You should work on that.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:22 AM
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Without reading the comments, I'll predict: The difference is that men's emotions are logical and good, while women's emotions are weird and bad. EDIT: Called it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:19 AM
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About the regular number.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:17 AM
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I don't get this whole "conflict-oriented mindset" at all, so... I dunno, just ditch it? Assume that other people, male and female, are people more or less like yourself, with their own issues and problems and dreams? Stop thinking of social interactions as battles you have to win, and maybe even have fun interacting with people instead? That's all I can advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:16 AM
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"But you see, we men are human beings at the end of the day. " Are women human beings at the end of the day? If your answer is yes, you're ready to leave the RP bullshit behind, leave your crappy ex behind, and move on. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:13 AM
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You're rooting for thousands of men to die so it's slightly easier for you to get laid? What the hell? Just ask some girls out. We're not that scary, I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 05:10 AM
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Listen to this man, Red Pillers. Do not reproduce. This is excellent advice for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 04:58 AM
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Let me guess. You're 18. What the hell is a JB? Why can't you go to the Bahamas and/or snort coke at 40? They sell plane tickets to 40-year-olds, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 04:57 AM
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What, you mean as a woman you're not showered with tons of money out of nowhere as soon as you reproduce? The Red Pill lied to us! Almost like it's a bunch of made-up bullshit from paranoid men who hate women!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 04:54 AM
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If you actually ask for custody, you'll get it. And paying child support is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than raising a child. For men, there's pretty much no downside to having kids. It's women who need to think very carefully about it. Sorry, I mean "the bitches."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 04:53 AM
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"These days" as opposed to when? No, please. Tell me which era had "right" women you would deign to impregnate. Because that is always hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 04:51 AM
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Red Pill is just an exaggerated version of old, old hatreds toward women. I agree it's pathetic that some men think it's new and edgy to repeat stale sexist slurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:58 AM
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Empathy is a great trait to have, but I don't know why you imagine I'd pride myself on it. I don't. Still crying for the men who have the terrible burden of dealing with people who want to be their friends but are WOMEN! Stupid, gross, inferior WOMEN! The very idea that such creatures as ourselves would be worthy of a man's company! We're really getting out of line.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:44 AM
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Nope. I get paid. Are you saying you'd be okay with a relationship where you were your girlfriend's "employee"? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:35 AM
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I have never heard a woman complain about a lack of good men IRL. Neither have I, but RP guys love to wank off to the idea that there are tons of women crying over the lack of good men to date them. For some reason RPers imagine they would be the "good men" in this scenario. No, it doesn't make sense to me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:30 AM
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"As women, how do you properly ascertain what you think you want with what you really want?" As men, how do you properly ascertain what you really want? Assume that women do much the same, except without adding a bunch of extra words because they don't know what "ascertain" means. Question answered. You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:24 AM
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I know I'm going to be horrified/amused, but I have to ask... What are the supposed differences that you think should be taught?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:18 AM
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What the hell are you talking about? Both my grandmothers were brilliant women from working-class families and had few opportunities. They pushed their daughters to go to college because they'd never had the chance. One of my greatest sorrows in life is that my maternal grandmother died before I could tell her that I got accepted to Vassar. Nobody needed to tell me about feminism. "Did they tell you to get every inch out of trying to be hot you could?" What is wrong with you, you ungrammatical p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:14 AM
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Instead you'd get used to everyone, but especially men (particularly those your age) treating you exceedingly well and letting you get away with shit in proportion to how open you are. Where are all these men who treat women like queens and let them get away with shit? I demand names and addresses, because all I keep meeting are jackasses like you guys who think it's edgy to be dicks to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:03 AM
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Honestly, most RPers were probably better humans before they discovered this sewer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:00 AM
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You would like to see more shallow, looks-obsessed women trying to train their daughters to be gold-diggers? Wouldn't work anyway. Women are awesome now and have way too many opportunities to waste time impressing boring men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:59 AM
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You do realize we build connections with our plates right? You build connections... with a person you refer to as a "plate." A person you interact with strictly so you can brag to losers on the Internet that she means nothing you and you could dump her at any time. Right. Read that aloud to yourself and decide whether it makes any sense whatsoever. Hint: It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:57 AM
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I seem to be relating to them just fine. By seeing them as sub-human? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:53 AM
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So, what you're saying is centuries of traditionalism was just bull? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:51 AM
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Yeah. Isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:49 AM
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My husband doesn't cry often, but when he does it's very moving. It may be pertinent to add that my dad is the extremely stoic type and it was rare, growing up, to see him express any emotion at all. My brother and I were just talking tonight about how weird that was. He didn't get excited by the birth of either of his children. That's messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:45 AM
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I don't believe all Muslims could be terrorists. Do you know any Muslims? For that matter, do you know any women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:40 AM
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'TRP took a pretty rational position that was something like "Men are nature's genetic gamble and thus there are far more male geniuses and prodigies than their female counter parts."' But that's not rational at all. It's an idea that flatters the egos of sad men. Do you guys even know what "rational" means? Because I do, and I'm a lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:38 AM
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Better than you, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:37 AM
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What is the place of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:36 AM
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"You believe this yet you dont see why RP is reviled?" It's hilarious, isn't it? "I'm so sensitive and open-minded I let women TALK to me! Why aren't they grateful?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:35 AM
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"I love women. I think they are cute and adorable and lovely." EWWWWW How do people like you even function in the real world, where you have to constantly deal with women are smarter than you, more competent than you, generally better at being human than you? Do you just stick your fingers in your ears and hum until the scary awesome women go away?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:30 AM
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Trp quite often mourns the loss of women as quality wives and mothers. So women are valuable... at being servants to men. HAHAHA no.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:22 AM
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Nah. I want dozens of sluts too. They will maximize reproduction by helping to raise my children. I'm kidding. Just six or seven sluts will be acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 07:20 AM
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We don't all get male attention, though. I certainly didn't have men hanging off me when I was younger. I used to resent people who seemed to have more social success, but eventually I realized that was petty and immature, and other people's happiness didn't detract from my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 07:09 AM
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No, they both end up being douchebags. But they have a set of convoluted excuses for why it's okay to be a douchebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:59 AM
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What is the nature of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:57 AM
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Hating half the human race is not a healthy step in any process. Do you think KKK members are just working the racism out of their system, and one day David Duke is going to wake up and be totally cool with black people? Have you noticed that never happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:52 AM
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No hate. Fire is cleansing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:44 AM
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Nah, it's okay. I don't think it's unusual to not want to be insulted, but I do have many other unique and cool qualities. If someone thinks that's an insult, it's no skin off my nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:42 AM
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Where and when is this happening? With the military leaders and the harems?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:29 AM
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Wait. Are you under the impression that if a stupid woman and a smart man have children, the girl children will be stupid and the boy children will be smart? Like in "A Muppet Christmas Carol" where Kermit and Miss Piggy have children, and the boys are frogs and the girls are pigs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:27 AM
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No. I'm a socialist, not a communist. I believe in pursuing a healthy balance of power between government, business, and the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:18 AM
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It's worth doing just to watch the hamsters spin. The guy telling the OP to stop using logic was the peak.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:51 AM
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I just got back from a comic book convention with my husband. I sold my comics, he sold his books. We hung out with friends and colleagues, had romantic dinners, got some precious alone time in our hotel room (our son was home with his grandma), and talked and laughed together. It was a blast. The sex was nice, too. I'm sure this whole "trading resources for reluctant vaginal access" thing is great, though. You have fun with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:48 AM
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You see it with the phenomenon of "The top 20% of men get 80% of the women". That's not a phenomenon. There is no evidence behind it. It's just a thing manosphere guys made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:32 AM
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It's not that easy for women to get laid. The weightlifting analogy is spot on. All you dudes who even lift are reprehensible weight sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:28 AM
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If you talk to a group of men using positive language, I'm sure they'll also agree that they like partners who meet their standards, that they might have sex with hot, unstable girls but wouldn't marry them, and that they enjoy going out with a girl other guys envy. It's not a lady-specific thing. A huge chunk of RP rhetoric is just taking stuff most humans do and rephrasing it in a way that glorifies men and demonizes women. Men wisely go for "high SMV," while women are stupidly "hypergamous." …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:16 AM
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Hey, it's not like humans are getting abused. Just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:05 AM
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How do you know the first statement wasn't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:03 AM
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Reframing things for male emotions(TM) is actually a fun exercise. Examples: Instead of saying men are shallow and obsessed with status, tell them they're looking for "high SMV." Instead of saying they're insecure about their penises, agree that it's unfair they have to compete with "Chad," an imaginary large-penised man (like children, they love imaginary friends*), and that women shouldn't be allowed access to other men's penises anyway. If they start feeling sad about not being in a happy, lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:03 AM
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Yesssss. Stay away from women, RP dudes. Far, far away. You don't want those sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 08:27 AM
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I don't like aggressive men. I definitely don't like men who insult me. Why would I have any patience for that? I'm awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 08:18 AM
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Amazingly, the graphs all show that eventually women will be very, very sorry for not dating these horrible men who hate them, and will come begging to give them apology blowjobs. It will definitely happen one of these days. Graphs wouldn't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 08:16 AM
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I don't care about mean words. I care about mean thoughts. Mean, petty thoughts that make men small and scared and nasty. You're afraid of women, you're afraid of other men, you're afraid of your own inadequacies, and all the RP does is encourage you to turn that fear into hate. Some improvement. And what are the supposed valuable lessons buried in the ten tons of manure that is the Red Pill? "Being attractive will get you more dates than being unattractive?" "When Mr. Rogers said to be yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 08:11 AM
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Because encouraging angry, self-absorbed men to blame all their problems on women and see them as worthless garbage will definitely cut down on violence against women. What is wrong with you people? Good god.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:57 AM
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You want to date a woman who's only with you because otherwise she would starve to death? Think long and hard about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:56 AM
1

Lots of guys with facial deformities date women without deformities; it seems to be more common than the reverse, to be honest. And how do you know whether or not people whose pictures you see on Tindr are virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:52 AM
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If nothing else, it's a good way to keep being forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:47 AM
1

This is the way these conversations go every single time they come up on this forum. "I can't get laid! Help me!" "Why don't you (one of twenty million possible suggestions for getting laid)?" "No, that sounds too hard." "Okay, what about (another suggestion)?" "Eww, I could wind up having sex with a non-babe!" "How about (yet another suggestion)?" "But that won't impress my friends!" ...and on and on until everyone gives up. Just ask some ladies out or something. It's not a big deal and you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:42 AM
2

In the RP world, it's always okay if you're a man. Things are only bad when women do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:25 AM
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There's no such thing as a 1/10 woman. There's no such thing as a 1/10 man. This is bullshit RP dudes make up to protect themselves from the complexity and wonder of human relationships. An RP guy will turn up his nose at a fat woman (Her life doesn't revolve around looking pretty for men? Horrors!), a nerdy woman (Ugh, my bros will laugh if they see me with someone uncool!), a disabled woman (So much trouble! How will she wait on me hand and foot as is my manly due?). A normal man might talk to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:23 AM
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Women use 3x as many words as men on average. Citation? Actual studies on the subject find that men and women talk about an equal amount, but women are perceived as talking much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:07 AM
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Um... "A mind is a terrible thing to waste" is the slogan of the United Negro College Fund. Which does help many black women go to college, but it's an organization focused on race, not gender. What do you think colleges should do to recruit more male students? And do you feel that, say, tech companies should do the same to recruit more female engineers?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:05 AM
1

Show me a work of men's erotica where a man falls in love with a fat balding spineless woman with no money. Women have diverse tastes an interests. We don't exist for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 06:45 AM
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I feel exactly the opposite. A man who needs women to be weak in order to feel strong is a sad little man-child and not worth a woman's time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 06:44 AM
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Awesome men like awesome women. Only crappy men are looking for hot substitute mommies who are too inexperienced to know the sex is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 06:41 AM
1

If the space aliens' first contact is with guys on Reddit, our species is doomed. Nuke us from orbit; it's the only way to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 06:37 AM
1

So they only call people snowflakes... when they call people snowflakes. Yup, definitely my experience too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:49 AM
0

It's impressive that he was able to discern your facial expression and pose from something you posted online.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:46 AM
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Who are these feminists who think men are shit and want to kill them all? I need to give them a good talking-to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:40 AM
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Actually more guys are obese. But as with everything in the RP, it's okay if you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:34 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure how women are doing anything different from men here. The OP likes big boobs. If he turns down a fat, homely old lady who has big saggy tits, does that mean he's lying or confused about liking big boobs? OMG men are such hypocrites!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:33 AM
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Sorry, I still like short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:22 AM
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It's been proven, eh? You need to read more women's erotica.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:21 AM
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However the truly sad part is that despite women now being much lower in quality, they are much more demanding and less humble. Women do tend to smarten up as they get older and stop putting up with bullshit. But that's not sad. That's awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 06:03 AM
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I dunno, there seem to be a lot of sexy nerds in pop culture these days. Tony Stark and Bruce Banner get as much fangirl love as Steve Rogers and Thor. Just last night I finally got around to watching "The Martian," about a heroic sexy scientist played by Matt Damon. Nerdy guys are getting a lot of good press. I'm a nerd and I love nerdy guys, but not the ones who have a huge chip on their shoulders about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 05:48 AM
1

You're not being sold or given away either, so what are you complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 05:25 AM
1

Yeah, why don't women take the mature, sensible route and point guns at people? That's what an adult would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 04:24 AM
2

And a huge number of field reports don't even report any success! At least half of them are guys coming up with complex rationalizations for why some brief, mundane interaction with a woman was actually super alpha. I saw a field report once where the guy's girlfriend mocked him in front of her friends for being unemployed and playing video games on her couch all day, which was another RP triumph because he demonstrated "amused mastery" while they were all laughing at him. Which I think meant he…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 04:17 AM
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Why do RPers all think they're nice guys? Dudes, you're not nice guys. You were never nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 04:09 AM
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I agree with you. I agree that when RPers manage to get laid, it's usually because they managed to trick a woman into thinking they're not woman-hating assholes. In that case, why not just... not be a woman-hating asshole? No trickery required.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 03:53 AM
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It doesn't offend me. It just makes me laugh every time a slur-spurtin' edgelord demands that other people be polite and sensitive and coddle his delicate feelings. You are a funny little fellow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 03:35 AM
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Most RP guys dream of having happy long-term relationships but hate and fear women. The Married RP guys are, at least by their own questionable accounts, living the dream: abusing and insulting a wife who's been cowed into submission and will puff up their egos while they high-five each other for showing feeeeemales their place. Every RP guy dreams of becoming a Married RP guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:38 AM
1

What do you mean by women are conformists? All his male friends agreed it was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:25 AM
1

Speak for yourself. When I see Danny DeVito peeing his pants, I get in line for a piece of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:24 AM
1

Why would I want to date someone who doesn't value me as a person? If having a low "SMV" weeds out shitty men who don't actually like me, awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:23 AM
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Yeah, same here. I'm a straight woman who's been monogamously married for over ten years, and Ozy's perspectives are much, much closer to my experience. They also seem much kinder and happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 06:07 AM
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Do women love each subsequent child less than the first child? Do you think women with more than one child are bad mothers because they obviously used up all their love on the first child and must hate the others? Also... men have oxytocin too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 03:25 AM
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I can't say I've ever gotten tired of food, work, or talking. Do most people start to hate talking as they get older? Why do you think the 14th time falling in love or having sex will be worse than the first time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 03:19 AM
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A microscopic tiny man. Living in a sperm cell. But don't let the woman harboring the tiny man in her uterus be scared by a horse, or its arms will fall off and it will be born covered in hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:58 AM
1

But it's illegal to discriminate based on sex. Ergo, you must be imagining these injustices. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:47 AM
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That's definitely not the impression I get from reading any RP stuff whatsoever. Not only is it all directed at women, nobody seems to ever get over the "anger phase."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:45 AM
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Also it makes me suspect he has no idea how genitals work. Not that I don't enjoy a little dirty talk in the bedroom (which a gentleman or lady does NOT share), but dude, if you're crushing someone's vagina, you are doing it incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:42 AM
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Acting like a bratty child in the hope that an actual adult will get pissed off so you can giggle over how naughty you are is the very definition of secure masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:39 AM
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my vag suffocated the fuck of that guy I pounded his face until he choked I cowgirled his schlong until it broke in two You are the wind beneath my wings.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:37 AM
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Poor shamed and triggered RP men. Run to your safe spaces, soft little kittens. Run and hide because a woman criticized you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:35 AM
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Why does the lingo we use offend you so? Because it mostly consists of insulting and attacking me? Is this hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:35 AM
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Aw. You're triggered. Poor guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:33 AM
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My husband wants me to stop reading this nonsense and come to bed so he can have some sex that thankfully will not include literally fucking shit out of me. But I cannot stop reading! It is too hilarious and I am too drunk!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:26 AM
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I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 07:24 AM
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So everyone gets laid, but super-hot guys get laid the most. Okay, I guess, if true. Don't see what the problem is. (Yes, yes, I know. The problem is that all the women in the world had sex with this one super-duper-hot guy and he was so amazing no other man will ever compare, and whenever you have sex with a lady she's thinking about that dude and how his penis was much bigger than yours. That's not a thing, though. That's just you.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 09:10 AM
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Some do, some don't. People do all kinds of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 09:02 AM
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The men you're citing were not scientists. Lord Chesterfield was a politician and Schopenhauer a philosopher. I'm not sure where you got the idea that Chesterfield ever studied neuroscience or psychology. And even if they had been scientists, science from 200 years ago tends to be a bit outdated. People in Chesterfield's time believed that each sperm cell contains a tiny, perfect copy of an adult human being that turns into a baby when the sperm enters a woman's uterus. I assure you, this is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:55 AM
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The point is, RPers don't treat fat men and fat women equally, or single mothers and single fathers. Whether this is surprising is irrelevant. Really, though, outside the manosphere, most men are capable of talking to each other without constantly spouting misogynistic slurs. You guys are just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:32 AM
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Then what's with the "anger phase"? Why be angry at women? It doesn't make logical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:29 AM
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It's illegal to discriminate against men as well, yet the OP lists supposed anti-male discrimination in the legal and business worlds as two of his three examples of male oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:27 AM
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I could never have a long-term relationship with someone who uses "long-term relationship" as a verb.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:19 AM
4

Add some wine and you just described my perfect evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 08:17 AM
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I don't want sex and commitment. I want $500. Why should it matter to me that I can get access to your penis, on any timetable? Your penis is of no value or interest to me, whereas with $500 I can put raised vegetable beds in the back yard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 10:27 PM
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If the attractive women are pairing off with the plain men, what happens to the plain women and the attractive men? Do they stay single forever? Again, please tell me where you live that homely gals like myself are all dating super hot dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 10:09 PM
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Oh, you mean a more attractive man. If they like each other, sure. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 10:02 PM
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Even if women had all these advantages you imagine we have (wow, a man might deign to have sex with me if I'm not too fat? I'll definitely take that over a fair pay and respect in my field!), why would this make you hate women? It would be reasonable to be angry at the social structures and conventions that you feel favor women, but most women didn't create those structures and men are equally responsible for maintaining them. As a feminist, I think men have a lot of unfair advantages, but I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 09:12 PM
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I drank some coffee and then committed suicide to cleanse the world of my degeneracy. But you didn't provide an option for successful honorable suicide! My corpse is more degenerate than ever!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 08:55 PM
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I know you're just repeating RP gospel, but come on, does this bear any resemblance to what you see in reality? When you walk outside or hang out in a coffee shop, do most couples you see consist of a totally unappealing woman and a gorgeous dude way out of her league? And if so, please tell me where you live so I can move there, because I am a lady and I want to get in on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 07:21 AM
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What's an arbitrarily attractive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 07:16 AM
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Add ten million points to my score for all the Alcohol Consumption I'll be doing after reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 07:10 AM
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This is hilarious. I like that a fat guy is more degenerate than a rapist or murderer. But less degenerate than a serial killer, so go size positivity! Let's see... I get one point for the mocha I had this morning, ten points for having safe sex, and ten points for successfully committing suicide. Time to add up my points and see how d
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 07:09 AM
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My husband was unemployed when we started dating. We've been married over ten years now. Some years I earn more, other years he does. The more money we can bring in as a team, the better. Now that we have a kid to support, I'm even farther from being able to imagine giving a shit that I might make too much money and OMG we'll be in the wrong gender roles. The kid needs to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 06:53 AM
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The manosphere concept of how the average woman lives will never cease to amaze me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 06:34 AM
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Okay, cool. I want you to send me $500. How do I go about doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 06:26 AM
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As an independently wealthy, model-gorgeous blonde who has no thoughts or goals and can survive on nothing but $5 well drinks, I find the RP idea of how the average woman lives 100% accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:32 AM
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Well, you heard him. Women can't even lift. From an RP perspective, what can we possibly do with our time?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:16 AM
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In what way is it harder? What specifically do you have to do that you imagine a woman doesn't have to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:14 AM
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You can sell your body. Find a rich gay guy or an old widow in need of some lovin'. If RP men work out half as much as they claim to, they shouldn't have trouble finding sugar daddies. Sure, you probably won't be attracted to him, but this isn't about your silly feelings. This is about results. Get busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:10 AM
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Your link about what men and women study in college shows that men are more likely to study engineering, women are more likely to study medicine, education, and social work, slightly more women than men study the arts, and math, science, and business majors all have a roughly even gender split. How is this proof of female inferiority? It seems to speak well for female students that they're pursuing careers that help people and contribute to society rather than chasing easy Silicon Valley money. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 09:00 AM
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Men yelling at women, threatening them, stalking them, sometimes physically attacking or even killing them because they got turned down for a date: No big deal, just suck it up, it's probably not that common so stop linking to websites suggesting that it's super common, you're trying to make men look bad for no reason, why do you girls have to complain about every silly little thing? Women flaking on dates, possibly because of the above: MANPOCALYPSE. Bonus lesson I learned from this thread: Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/16 08:18 AM
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Still iffy. That girl squirrel was obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:22 AM
2

So you can't remember her name either?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:15 AM
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I'm sort of convinced it's a troll, but how do you even tell around here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 06:12 AM
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You're watching a movie where talking, singing animals who are all friends despite being different species go out on 1950s-style romantic dates with other talking animals, and the part that strikes you as unrealistic is that the animals getting dates aren't sufficiently "alpha"? Who would try to run children's budding romantic dreams with bitter rants about the dangers of love and feeeemales... holy crap, wait. Are you the owl from that movie? YOU'RE THE OWL!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:57 AM
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In that case, the lesson is "Don't fuck squirrels." As true today as it was in Arthurian England.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:46 AM
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Women, on average, are more obese then men. It seems like someone just wants to stir up drama by writing that. In the U.S., men are much more likely to be overweight or obese than women. http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/adult-overweightobesity-rate-by-gender/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:38 AM
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Honest opinion, for whatever reason men are less likely to write online rants about the opposite gender, that or the rants that are written just aren't taken as seriously. Sorry, I have to sit and savor the cluelessness of a guy on this forum saying that men don't write online rants about the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:37 AM
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Maybe he's an RP guy and you were supposed to swoon at his alpha display of dominance and negging. I always miss those cues myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:35 AM
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If Rollo's into jacked dudes, he can bang jacked dudes. The rest of us like all kinds of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:33 AM
4

I can't think of any fat female sex symbols either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:25 AM
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If you're having trouble getting a girlfriend, I'm guessing it has less to do with how ripped you are and more to do with the fact that you use words like "landwhale." No good person talks like that. Be a good person. You'll feel better about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:22 AM
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According to the OP, men don't need a woman to be thin or attractive. So who cares what the attractive girls want? You can date a less attractive girl and be just as happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 05:19 AM
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So I'm reading another post about how it isn't okay to be bigoted anymore and that said bigots are the real victims. Don't you understand how hard it is to be a bigot these days? People could criticize you! On the Internet! Your feelings could be hurt, when all you wanted to do was hurt the feelings of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 10:31 AM
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Well, now this thread has 111 comments, 90% of which are men crawling over each other to insult her body. Consider your thesis disproven.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 09:52 AM
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It's great when they brag about how they narrowly avoided learning anything about other humans, isn't it? Not that I think this person actually took a women's studies class, let alone lots of them. Too much danger of scary cooties.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 09:50 AM
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Absolutely. For years I've been saying the whole idea that men hold women to any sort of beauty standard is absolutely ridiculous. Where are these so called men with stupidly high standards that everyone is talking about? Where is all this pressure from men to be "thin?" Who is saying this? Huh. I could have sworn I read a thread here yesterday of RP guys agreeing that Emma Watson is ugly, flat-chested, mannish, and physically unworthy of their penises' attention. Must have hallucinated that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 09:45 AM
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I will never understand people who get all upset over what complete strangers do with their bodies. There's an epidemic of fat people who don't hate themselves and trans people who feel comfortable in their gender? Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 03:32 AM
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Meh, it doesn't have any connection to reality in the U.S. either. It's mostly based on thinking bad movies are real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 03:15 AM
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Most RPer seem to be well-off, sheltered college kids, which is why not getting laid is the worst form of oppression they can think of. The older guys tend to brag about how much money they make, which I take as seriously as all their other stories about their alpha alphaing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 03:10 AM
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I think this is in part because the US has a big sex negativity for males and a big sex-positivity for females, on the level of college campuses. That's literally the opposite of reality. Good god, not being allowed to rape people is not oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 03:03 AM
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What you just wrote? Women in tech hear it ALL THE DAMN TIME. You're not original. There are tons of other insecure techbros who get their panties in a knot when a woman outperforms them. Why do RP guys think they're the only ones being dicks to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 02:57 AM
1

Orwell criticized communism, but he was an ardent socialist. He initially supported the communist revolution in Russia until it turned into totalitarianism, which disillusioned him on pure communism. He was one of the pioneers of Marxist literary theory (that is, analyzing literature in terms of its economic assumptions and ideals; check out his famous essay on Dickens), so it's always weird to see him held up as anti-Marxist by people who don't know his work very well. Like most left-wing ideol…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 01:37 AM
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You mean like small villages? They tend to be tight-knit communities where everybody knows each other and marriages are frequently arranged, or at least heavily influenced by the families. A guy with a good job and education generally fares better in those situations than a hot guy. Or do you mean subsistence-level societies? As 99_Problem said, it's the rich dudes who get multiple wives. Women don't necessarily have a lot of say in who they marry, though. "Wife" is basically "indentured farmhan…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 07:21 AM
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What I don't get is, why don't misogynists want to be called misogynists? Just about everyone on the RP vomits endless hatred, contempt, anger, and fear toward women, usually in the most derogatory language they can think of with their limited imaginations ("cum dumpster," uh-huh, never heard that one before, Faulkner) but if you call it misogyny they cry and tell you to stop calling them mean names. It's like you guys are aware that misogyny is bad, but haven't quite worked out why.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 07:09 AM
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Yeah no. Saying shitty things about women isn't an act of revolution against the evil femocracy that secretly controls the world. It's just saying shitty things about women. Orwell himself had feminist sympathies: https://www.brainpickings.org/2013/12/09/george-orwell-on-gender-equality/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 06:58 AM
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Text the alleged victim sent her friend the day after the incident: "I don’t remember throwing up, or coming home, or having this random … guy in my bed. I didn’t want this guy. At all. This guy wanted me and got me when I wasn’t conscious." But yeah, it must not have been rape because she made later texts a writer for Reason considers "flirtatious," and also because she did a porno. Look, maybe the girl's dad is lying. It's happened before. But based on the Fox News article (which is still symp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:56 AM
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It's very rare for a man to go to jail on a false rape charge. The alleged harm to his reputation is all about FEEEEELZ, which are unimportant, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:31 AM
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How so? I'm repeating your thesis. You're arguing that physical attractiveness is a sign of good moral qualities, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 02:23 AM
1

I could just as easily say guys are lying and saying they didn't enjoy the fun times they had being friends with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 02:20 AM
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Links or it didn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:38 PM
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I don't know of any positive qualities that men have and women don't. Nor do I know of any positive qualities that women have and men don't. It's interesting that you think treating women as equal to men is "man-hating." If I like cats as much as dogs, am I "dog-hating"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:34 PM
2

I'm pretty sure one group of people can have different opinions from another group of people without it being evidence of a secret conspiracy. As a general rule, third-wave feminism is more sex-positive than second-wave feminism, but there's always been a range of opinions on issues like sex work and pornography. You can be sex-positive and against sexual objectification. A lot of us ladies feel sex is more fun when we're enjoying it ourselves instead of just posing for consumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:31 PM
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You didn't get your porn check for being a feminist this month? Weird. Better call All the Porn Companies in the World and tell them to get on the ball.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:26 PM
2

"Care to give examples?" "No." Oh, Internet. Never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:19 PM
3

I don't think RP guys realize the true scale of the competition they're up against. Real life isn't "Revenge of the Nerds" where every jock is a jerk. That hot guy who's dating the girl you like? Chances are he's not just better-looking than you; he's a kinder boyfriend and an all-around nicer person, too. For one thing, he's not on Reddit bitching about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:16 PM
3

It's hilarious how a woman suddenly becomes super ugly when she says something misogynists disagree with. Yeah, Emma Watson's a total uggo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:11 PM
1

Link to this study?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:08 PM
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Good god, y'alls. If you don't want to be friends with a girl, don't be friends with her. This strategy of pretending to be her friend and then getting pissed off when she doesn't fuck you is clearly not working for anyone. It sounds like you did the right thing by cutting this girl off when she got clingy and weird. That's a totally cool thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 10:06 PM
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So... a woman who's young and blonde with big tits probably worked hard to achieve her age, hair color and tit size, ergo you are a good and moral person if you find her attractive. Whereas a woman who started her own company and became a senator was probably just born that way, ergo you are a bad and shallow person if you find her attractive. Does this make sense to you? Like, at all? I mean, sure, be attracted to whatever you want, but don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the back for wanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 09:53 PM
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Congratulations: you've found the men the rest of the world has been laughing at for throwing online tantrums about women being Jedi and Ghostbusters. Aren't they marvelous in their native habitat?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 09:24 PM
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One never gets the impression that she's basically a guy in the body of a woman. She is, though. The characters in Alien were written to be played by either sex. Ridley Scott decided to go with a female lead to get more women in the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 09:20 PM
2

"Is it okay to say this horrible thing about women?" "Of course! It's just a general rule! And personal choice! And common sense! And harmless fun! And nobody gets hurt, or at least nobody I care about! And there's probably a really good reason for saying it, like maybe cavemen had to yell horrible things about women to stun prey, so it's evolution!" "Is it okay to say the exact same horrible thing about men?" "No!!" (runs to safe space to cry) Keep them hamsters spinning, boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:13 AM
1

Why would an employer even think about whether you might rape someone? Because there are probably people working there besides you, and your hypothetical employer doesn't want them to get raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:01 AM
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Did this occur in any context, or did strange women just call you a rapist out of the blue for no reason? Why do I suspect the former?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 08:00 AM
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The women look up and complain there isn't anyone above them. I've never heard any woman say this who wasn't fictional, being quoted in the New York Times Style section for another scare story about the "man shortage" that's been predicted since people started letting women go to college, or both. In my experience, women with successful careers are more open to marrying a less successful guy because they have money and status of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:53 AM
1

Dry your tears, honey. The Internet is full of places where you can make all those sexist comments and many more, and other dudes who hate women will give you headpats and kisses. What a marvelous era we live in. Teacher, nurse, and secretary are three of the most common professions for women, so obviously a large number of the women in a survey will have those professions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:48 AM
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Nursing is probably the best-paid of the female-dominated careers in the U.S. It still pays low compared to other medical careers. But you can make a nice living as a nurse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:44 AM
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Just to be clear, I am unaware of any affirmative laws permitting employers to fire women for having a child or being married. That happened all the time before laws were passed specifically forbidding it. It probably still goes on today in the U.S., just under plausible deniability, and in many countries (Japan springs to mind) companies are still open about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:43 AM
1

Then what's all this blather about women being jerks by only "marrying up"? It sounds like the problem is men being obsessed with "marrying down."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:40 AM
3

Not a surprise. Both male and female bartenders tend to get a lot of sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:38 AM
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Marrying someone because they've got big tits is...not what love is. Do you guys really not understand how emotions work?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:36 AM
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Yeah, teachers are way more important to society than most engineers. It's shameful how poorly they're treated in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 07:33 AM
1

Sure, why not? I'm always up for new experiences. I doubt it's especially impressive, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:10 AM
1

Then why do they run mostly on women's daytime TV shows? And who buys the Tampoons? ...you're leading me on, aren't you? Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:06 AM
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Logic isn't just about facts and figures. Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:52 AM
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Comfort and safety are rational things to be concerned about. The perceived status of an expensive car is very much emotional and irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:49 AM
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The rule is, if you make a decision an RP guy likes, it's rational and correct. If you make a decision an RP guy doesn't like, it's emotional and wrong. Men going after hot women with awful personalities = rational, good Women going after hot men with awful personalities = emotional, bad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:46 AM
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Meh. Go for whomever you like. The worst that can happen is that you get rejected, which is not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:41 AM
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In a world with gender quota's in the business world women are being given things just because they have vagina's. That's not a thing that's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:39 AM
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By that metric, men don't get away with anything besides a cheap thrill either. But cheap thrills are fun and many people clearly find them worth pursuing. Personally, I enjoy both cheap thrills and loving relationships. They're not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:36 AM
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Please prove that women aren't all worthless cunts. I'm awesome and bring great value and happiness to the world. Thanks for asking!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:33 AM
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It seems logical if you're a guy who only cares about women for their bodies. Everyone else is just laughing and shaking their heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:32 AM
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Not at all surprised that the response from RP dudes is "Women, because they get to sexually service ME!" It must be nice to have society constantly telling you how wonderful you are based on zero evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:21 AM
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No he won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:13 AM
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Or... most people take feminist issues more seriously because they're real issues that affect people's lives in real ways, and they don't take MRA issues seriously because they're the opposite of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:13 AM
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Nah, if he's RP, chances are he's a young white college boy who has never worked a day in his life and thinks he's horribly oppressed because women can say no to sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:08 AM
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But I'm not worse. I'm awesome. I don't want to lie to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:17 AM
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Okay, then give me a link.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:16 AM
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Only one women? In my experience, most Tampoon ads do talk about the absorbancy of the Tampoon. Also, comfort is very much a rational concern about a product you have to shove into a personal orifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:13 AM
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Then it would be easy for you to find an example of this man-hating. Go ahead. Find someone saying that all men are irrational, that men are incapable of love, that a man is "the smartest teenager in the room," that it's okay to abuse men because they secretly enjoy it and won't respect a woman who's nice to them, or the equivalent of all the sweet, lovely, not remotely misogynistic things RPers blather on about endlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:36 AM
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What makes an engineer more logical than a psychotherapist? Logic and basic math skills are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:24 AM
2

Look at the advertising of a Tampoon to a Man or a Women. The ad toward the Women will focus on her emotions and comfort the Ad toward a man will focus on how much water it holds and other technical information. Did you work on this Tampoon ad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Vt4vmWxmY
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:23 AM
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Just look at how a car commercial toward men is ( f150) and one with a car targeted to a women (family suv) Typically, the SUV commercial would emphasize its practicality to average families, while the F150 commercial would play up male power fantasies. This year's F150 Super Bowl ad focused on safety features but sold them through pumped-up military rhetoric, calling the truck "battle tested" and showing blueprints of tanks. Male-focused ad campaigns for less practical vehicles, like sports car…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:16 AM
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In the state of nature, if a male Homo sapiens wanted to fuck a female one and he was the most dominant male present, he simply would. Consent was irrelevant. No compatibility issues there. That's...very unlikely. To put it mildly. I could go into more detail, but I don't know of any ape species that live in groups with multiple adult males, but only one of those males has sex. And it's usually the female's desire for sex that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:32 AM
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This is a great strategy! If you're a woman or male model. You say this sarcastically, but look at what popular women do at parties. They socialize, laugh, make a point of meeting lots of people, and generally look like they're fun to be with. And they put tons of effort into their appearance. It's not a bad model to copy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:24 AM
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My husband is only a nerd about comic books, and he never encountered poly stuff until I started taking him to sci-fi conventions. Now he assumes every fat beardy guy has about five girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:18 AM
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I think she's deliberately trolling, but on this forum it's impossible to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 06:16 AM
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Geez, he's not going to -talk- to her. She's a woman. They've got mouth cooties. In real life, most of the guys I know who put off marriage didn't want a traditional picket-fence life with a stereotypical hausfrau. The guys who wanted that married early. When the latecomers settled down, it was usually with an offbeat woman who had a life of her own and was very much not there to scrub kitchen floors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 06:10 AM
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I'm really tempted to start a topic asking RP guys to answer basic biology questions, just because the answers would be amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 05:59 AM
1

What does Charles Manson have to do with anything? I'm asking whether it would be acceptable for a woman to deal with a bad relationship by abusing other men. Would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 05:33 AM
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Really? You can point to examples of prominent feminists recommending that women abuse their male partners? I doubt that very much. "The personal is political" means that many of the personal problems women face are shared by other women and can be overcome by political action. I don't even know how you can translate that to mean "use dread game on your boyfriend." Because that would be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 05:30 AM
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if you ask any seasoned RPer whether or not they hate women, I guarantee you, they will 100% say that they do not. they just have a stronger understanding of the female psychology than they did before. And when you ask what they mean by that, their "understanding" is that women are hateful. It's never, "I used to put women on a pedestal, but RP taught me they're people with normal human personalities and I should deal with them as such." It's always, "I used to put women on a pedestal, but RP ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 05:26 AM
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Most men 40 and over are married, though. But yes, you are totally the only college-age guy who isn't ready for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 05:08 AM
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Men trick me into thinking their hair naturally stops growing! Sometimes they even shave so I'll think they don't have facial hair, and wear deodorant to convince me their armpits don't smell! And did you know... ...holy crap... ...men don't really smell like Old Spice? Damn those tricksy males! They got me again!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 05:19 AM
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Should a woman in that situation seek out a relationship with a man she can dominate, abuse, and punish for all her previous bad experiences with men? Should she learn manipulation and "dread game" to keep her new boyfriend in a constant state of fear? Should she learn to hate men and see them as subhuman? Because that's what RP recommends for men. That's not empowerment. That's abuse of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 05:08 AM
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I've never seen these non-misogynistic RP guys. If anything, they tend to hate women more the longer they spend on manosphere sites swapping stories about how awful women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 05:04 AM
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I sympathize with the frustrations of young people who have trouble dating and socializing. My sympathy drops considerably when they decide to deal with their problems by being dicks to women. I can go help people who treat me with basic respect, and have considerably more serious problems, instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 04:55 AM
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I don't believe I'm above it, in fact I enjoyed doing it. I'm only trying to cut down on it because women seem to reward men who don't. Exactly. That's a crummy reason. I can't sympathize with someone who deliberately tries to be a worse person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 04:44 AM
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Yeah, this happens in any feminist conversation over less-than-perfectly-feminist things. Some women fall on the side of "Wearing makeup/shaving my legs/taking my husband's name/reading Twilight is sexist and we shouldn't do it," some on the side of "It's problematic, but not that big a deal," and some on "I really enjoy it though."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:08 AM
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You can release the same chemicals by masturbating. Why have sex with other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 03:03 AM
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Women like men that stand out in a positive way. This is a huge thing that seems to get overlooked in RP circles. Standing out from the crowd makes women notice you. The old Mystery-era PUA tips kind of overemphasized this (and ignored the "positive" part) to the point that guys were supposed to wear stupid hats and do magic tricks in bars, which I definitely do not recommend. But flaunting something about you that's interesting and positive is all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:58 AM
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Most people don't have a realistic idea of how muscle develops or what it looks like on a regular person. You often hear women worrying about getting "too muscular" if they do weight training, like pumping a tiny jogging barbell for ten minutes is going to turn them into the poster for "Pumping Iron 2: The Women." Realistically, it's difficult for most women to put on visible muscle, and even if you lift a lot you'll probably just get hot abs. Back when I went to the gym regularly, I got fairly …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:50 AM
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When Mad Men was running, the male actors were told not to diet or crosstrain too much so they'd have period-appropriate physiques. That's why Jon Hamm looks a little softer and less chiseled than other hot-guy actors. And yes, it's ridiculous that not having a six-pack visible from two miles away counts as "dad bod" in some circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:42 AM
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Well, maybe. But the passage clearly resonates with a lot of women who aren't sociopaths, because most women do feel that pressure. Like most antiheroes (think Walter White), she does horrible things for initially sympathetic and relatable reasons, and it's only after a certain point that you realize how deeply messed up she is and probably has been all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:17 AM
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Your mom raped your dad? Good god, that's horrific. ...Oh, wait. You just mean they got divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:11 AM
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If his dad's in his fifties, he grew up in the 1960s and 1970s, when there was plenty of free love going around. It sounds like he's just not into that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/16 02:09 AM
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This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 09:27 AM
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Your dad sounds cool. I'll totally meet him for lunch if he's ever in the Bay Area.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 09:02 AM
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Exactly. The point of the passage is that it's an exhausting performance, and sooner or later the Cool Girl will crack and either give up the act or turn into a total psycho like the character in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:39 AM
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I thought you guys wanted hard truths and were pissed at women for coddling you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:28 AM
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Hey, I wasn't the one who made up the imaginary conversation in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:26 AM
2

Yeah, years ago a friend of mine asked his circle of friends for help with his dating profile, and a bunch of women in the group jumped at the opportunity to take him shopping and give him a makeover.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:20 AM
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They'll just start complaining about how the sexbots think they're so great, not like the Generation 1 sexbots that were properly submissive, and after you've had a sexbot for a while she gets rusty which is COMPLETELY disrespectful to men. Also, did you know that rich guys can afford more sexbots than poor guys? Proof that sexbots only care about your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:13 AM
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Exactly. Women went along with this crummy deal because there were no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/16 08:02 AM
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Sure, why not? I hereby proclaim myself archpope of the Agnostic Church of Don't Be a Dick to People (Not Even Women and the Gays).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:15 AM
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That would indeed be a bad situation, and one that women really have faced in history. But come on: there is no situation in which one's survival depends on following bad pickup tips on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:02 AM
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Exactly. They convince themselves that any success they have is because of the Red Pill, which means they themselves are still unattractive and unlovable. And everyone on the RP forums tells them this is true, that they're worthless without RP. Some of them eventually figure out this is nonsense. The rest decide it's women's fault, because everything is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 06:02 AM
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Been told that, in pretty much exactly those words. In other words, not actually those words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:50 AM
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Yeah, any time this comes up, half the RP guys here say, "Ha ha, you're so dumb for thinking we take AWALT literally, of course we don't think all women are literally the same," and the other half say, "All women are identical man-hating death clones from Mars and anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is one of their spies."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:49 AM
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It's not hypocritical to say some girls will go for him, even if she personally wouldn't. Women are, amazingly, individual people who like different things. If someone offers you banana bread and you hate bananas, is it hypocritical to say, "No thanks, but I'm sure other people will enjoy it"? No, because banana bread is delicious and I'm going to eat all the banana bread as soon as you're gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:46 AM
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Yeah, it's awful when a woman tries to be your friend, like she thinks she's a person or something, and when you try to get her to shut up and spread her legs she politely excuses herself. How do you men deal with the terrible, terrible burden?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:42 AM
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Yeah, I'm baffled by the way RP guys interpret advice. Most people understand that "be yourself" means "have confidence and don't put on a fake persona just to please people." They don't think, "Oh, boy, I can play Xbox all day and cheerleaders will fly into my lap through the window like at the end of Animal House, because a guy who does nothing but play Xbox is who I really am!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/16 05:33 AM
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What are the men's expressions like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 09:06 PM
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Yes! Just ask! If she says no, big deal. If she says yes, go on a date. It's seriously that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:16 AM
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Everyone's a jerk in relationships sometimes. It's not a woman thing, it's a people thing. Own your crummy behavior, apologize, and work toward not pulling shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:57 AM
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Yeah, I've heard this one. Men and women are good at different things. Specifically, men are good at all the important, valued, exciting, and human things, while women are good at waiting on men and having vaginas. And don't try to do anything else, girls, or you'll lose that feminine mystique! An moldy oldie, but still popular among fundamentalists and men who hate having to clean their own toilets.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:55 AM
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The first computer languages were created by Admiral Grace Hopper. Women were well-represented among the first programmers, coders, and computer operators. And no, computers were not upside-down backwards machines that worked the opposite of modern computers so you can hamster out a way of still giving all the credit to men. Computer engineering and programming became male-dominated when the research moved from government to business and started to make a lot of money. Suddenly coding changed fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:45 AM
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I don't know of any anti-trans radical feminists who have enormous political power. Mostly they're an annoying fringe presence on the Internet. What laws are you thinking of?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:25 AM
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It turned out the woman who married Manson just wanted to steal his corpse. But that's probably proof of some other congenital female evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:12 AM
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I was going to college back in the '90s, the era of Take Back the Night marches and early activism against campus rape (not to mention the dawn of Christina Hoff Sommers accusing rape victims of being lying sluts), and I remember the exact same "if men can't assault women, how will they ever get laid???" panic. It looks like our species managed to continue reproducing anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:16 PM
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4) Don't rape people? It's not that hard to approach a woman without harassing or assaulting her. In fact, it's less effort! You just ask her if she wants to see Deadpool or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:13 PM
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"It's true that most men prefer moderately big boobs to small ones, but I don't think that's a deal breaker as long as her face is pretty and she meets his other requirements (personality, how feminine she is etc)" It's exactly the same with men and height. You understand that "men like big boobs" doesn't mean "all men like big boobs" or "men only want big boobs" or "small boobs are repulsive" or "any man will dump his girlfriend if a women with bigger boobs comes along." Extend the same logic w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:03 PM
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This is pretty accurate except for the idea that the He-Man Woman-Haters' Club stuff is anything new. Misogynists do tend to get louder and whinier whenever women make any kind of social progress, but they're always around. When I was growing up in the '80s I thought eventually sexist guys would die off and the humanity would be free of their nonsense, but now I suspect some men are always going to have weird issues with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:47 PM
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When we decided to have kids, my husband started thinking more about feminism from the mere possibility that we would have a girl (we didn't). One of his "aha" moments was saying, "Wait a minute. Telling little girls they should be flattered when boys hurt them is really messed up." I'm hoping it's less common these days as adults take bullying more seriously, but yeah, girls are fed a lot of dysfunctional messages about how relationships work and what kind of behavior they should put up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:33 PM
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Reading this sub, I'm amazed by the number of RP guys who are genuinely shocked by the discovery that pop culture, especially pop culture designed to indulge straight male fantasies, is not an accurate source of information on human relationships. They just found out that slovenly jerks are not handed hot babes as rewards for existing and stomping on turtles will not cause a princess to give you a blowjob, and they are angry, ANGRY that society lied to them. So, um, TV isn't real? I hope that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:48 AM
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I'm cool with men wearing makeup and push-up bras if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 09:36 AM
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Nah. When he was younger he ran a lot. Now he walks a lot. He's a skinny guy. Janet: "I don't like men with lots of muscles." Callback: "Just one big one!" Dr. Frank-N-Furter: " I didn't make him for YOU!" Callback: "She gets him anyway!" (Speaking of retro...)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 07:24 AM
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First, 22 isn't that old. I know in college it seems like everyone else is fucking like rabbits, but you're not alone. Chill out, meet people, learn and do interesting things. Be reasonably presentable. Have fun. If you don't like lying and games, don't pull that shit yourself (in other words, no PUA or Red Pill nonsense) and don't tolerate it in other people. Figure out what you want and be up front about it, and things will get less complicated. Realizing there are no clear answers is your fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 07:20 AM
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Good god, no. If someone wants to stop, then stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 07:04 AM
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No, who cares? He can do whatever he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 09:08 AM
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So you think we stop having experiences when "society stops caring" about us? And this happens as soon as we are no longer pretty? You know the experiment where they show infants a toy train going behind a wall, and after a certain age the infants figure out the train has not literally disappeared and will probably show up on the other side of the wall in a few seconds? Replace the toy train with a woman, and most RPers would fail that test. And then high-five each other over how mature they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 09:05 AM
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Why did you disbelieve those studies, but believe it when some dudes on the internet, with what you admit is no scientific proof, said, "Girls are dumb, hur hur"? It couldn't possibly be because the dudes flattered your ego when reality didn't, because that would be awfully immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:59 AM
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I don't think this is a real thing, but it's fine with me. People shouldn't get married unless they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:36 AM
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So if a man doesn't stand up to abusive men he's a jerk, but if he does stand up he's a white knight, which is bad for some reason. I'm starting to think this game is rigged.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:31 AM
1

I've been reading your posts here for a while. It's weird that you seem to think you're not one of the assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:28 AM
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Mind you, this is to take the vacation I EARNED as part of my compensation for selling a 3rd of my time to them, and I STILL have to figure out how to take it on my own. This is why we can't allow men in the workplace: their entitled belief that they deserve vacations. Think of how much it costs your employers, you selfish taker! If companies are forced to give men time off just because they want to sashay to the Bahamas for a week, they'll just stop hiring men. Then you'll be sorry you were so …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:24 AM
1

That's exactly the same discrimination women face for taking maternity leave. It sucks. Why not fight it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:20 AM
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Because we all know that "parental leave" is really about "maternity leave". My husband took parental leave when our son was born. It was a lifesaver. He's a fantastic dad and we're both grateful his job allows the flexibility to spend time with his kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:18 AM
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You are asking men to lower themselves in order match the capabilities of women. I'm pretty sure both men and women have the capability to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 08:16 AM
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If you're worrying about a woman falling madly in love with you, forcing you to marry her, having your children, then leaving you and triggering a downward spiral that somehow ends with you committing suicide in prison... ...before you're actually dating anyone... ...you may be jumping the gun a bit. Chill. Just date some people, see how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:51 AM
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In that case, yes. Rorschach was strangely persuasive in that chapter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:29 AM
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I LEARNED IT FROM YOU! I have to agree, though, reading anything at all about RP is too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:23 AM
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It's not offensive to me; it's just not what the study seems to be about. I haven't read past the abstract, though. Since you clearly have, can you let me know what it has to say about women and their tricksy scheming?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 09:09 AM
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Definitely run like the wind. The least plausible part of this scenario is someone on a manosphere forum not ranting about women. The second least plausible is everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 08:49 AM
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Or, more likely, people are kinda creeped out when you form a club devoted to talking about how much they suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 09:21 AM
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Most major battles of feminism, like the vote for instance, were passed pretty much the moment that women agreed they even wanted whatever the feminists did. That's factually untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 08:49 AM
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I'm not laughing at RP guys because they want girlfriends. I'm laughing at them because they've somehow decided the way to get girlfriends is to yell misogynistic insults at them. Also, I'm laughing to keep from crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 07:51 AM
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I'm more interested in the misleading way the information is presented. Based on the abstract, what the study found is that teenage boys with high EQ are less likely to engage in risky or criminal behavior than boys with low EQ, probably because they have a better ability to judge when something could get them in trouble. But teenage girls with high EQ are actually more likely to engage in risky behavior than low EQ girls. (The sample size is really small, so take it with a grain of salt.) I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 06:50 AM
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Well, it's pure anecdata, but in the good grade-section, my female classmates where mostly less sharp, partially even significantly less sharp than the guys with similar grades. And this study suggests why you had that misconception.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 06:33 AM
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I really, really don't like making catty comments about people's looks, but good lord I need to bookmark that page for the next time a RP guy starts whining about how women's standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:40 AM
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She is literally acknowledges that her partner is hurt and confused, yet states she does not feel bad for him, or look for a solution. That is possibly one of the most unhealthy attitudes you can take towards relationships in general. Likewise, he's aware of the problems she has with his weight gain and is unapologetic about not planning to work on it. They just sound like a horribly mismatched couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:33 AM
0

Anti-feminist dips. Milo is a clickbaity far-right Tweeter. CHS is Christina Hoff Sommers, who started her career back in the '90s by writing about how college rape victims are making it up; it is the eternal sorrow of her life that Phyllis Schlafly refuses to die and cede the title of Specialist Snowflake Who's Not Like Those Other Girls. Both of them are Gamergate heroes despite knowing exactly jack and shit about video games. I feel bad for knowing these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 05:09 AM
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A woman should always be honest about her sexual history. It scares off the insecure guys, leaving the men who are fun and safe to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 04:58 AM
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Put it this way: You're hanging out with a guy who's way bigger and stronger than you, and he starts to grope you and demand that you give him a blowjob. When you try to leave, he blocks the doorway with his massive bulk, laughs at you, and says, "What about my blowjob?" You're OK with that, right? I'd hate to think you're some kind of man-hater who pretends to find a guy threatening just for standing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:40 AM
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By the OP's rules, the woman's behavior is fine in both cases because she doesn't say anything about hitting the man. Ergo the man shouldn't feel forced to talk, and if he does feel that way it's because men are stupid and emotional. Oh, those silly men!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:32 AM
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The difference is this: You're a man. By RP rules, everything you do is great and totally understandable. Unless it's being nice to a woman; that's bad. She's a woman. Women are soul-eating death robots from Mars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:20 AM
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"Probably not, because you're a woman" coming out as "Probably not your woman" is a truly amazing display of superior male intelligence. Those are the words of a literal cartoon caveman pounding on a keyboard with his little cartoon club. P.S. The keyboard is a turtle who looks up and says, "Eh, it's a living."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 07:10 AM
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Yeah, wrangling a newborn is hell on earth, doubly so if you also have a toddler. It doesn't sound like her husband is helping much, even though she says it's more than most men. And she mentions popping a stitch! AHHHH... She'd have to deal with all that whether or not she also had a job, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 06:59 AM
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Who here is idolizing corporations? The woman who wrote the article is a reporter and says she likes her job. A lot of us have valuable, productive jobs we love.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 06:55 AM
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I will never grow tired of how eager misogynists are to dish it out, and how hilariously incapable they are of taking it. Y'alls natter on endlessly about how women are stupid and soulless and subhuman and deserve to be treated like garbage, sharing graphic fantasies about abusing women and mocking them as they suffer... but if someone says, "Yikes, that's gross," cue the fountains of tears as you cry about how bullied you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 10:37 AM
1

Most attractive men never settle down? Like, ever? Obviously there are people who stay single for life and are perfectly happy, and all power to them, but I wouldn't say it's the majority. Even good-looking people fall in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:20 AM
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Everybody prefers to be with someone they find attractive. Duh. I can just as easily point to a guy with a hot wife and say, "AHA! Proof of male hypergamy! He went after the most desirable woman available!" And then I can point to a guy with a plain wife and say, "AHA! Proof of male hypergamy! He's only with this inferior woman because he has no other choice, and if he had the power he'd dump her for a hottie!" And then I can stick my thumb up my ass and whistle the Star-Spangled Banner, which w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:16 AM
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If one partner cheated, the other partner would be more likely to seek an at-fault divorce, assuming they lived in a state where that was an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 07:09 AM
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And women have far more control over that offspring being born than men. So what, you're going to have sex with a stupid woman and trust her to do the right thing and get an abortion before her DNA pollutes the gene pool? She might not have that much sense. She's stupid. Come on, think about the demographic crisis. "Female scientists who want kids" isn't exactly a huge demographic. There's a lot of Ph.Ds out there who would probably have more kids if they had a househusband to take care of them.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 06:39 AM
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I don't think anyone in this word, even "alphas," gets everything they want in relationships all the time with no need to reciprocate and no danger of being dumped. I mean, I haven't yet been able to assemble a harem consisting of Idris Elba, 1990s-era David Duchovny, and Doctor Venture, but I'm still happy. RP seems to encourage guys to feel insecure and dissatisfied about their sex lives. "Don't have a girlfriend? You're a beta loser. Oh, you have a girlfriend now? Well, if you weren't a beta …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:43 AM
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Every culture in history has been convinced it was in the midst of a decline and things were better in the old days. Every culture has had reactionaries convinced that men are getting dangerously weak and women are getting dangerously strong. In the U.S., every wave of immigrants is seen as a threat to American culture. It's not original and it doesn't signify much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:04 AM
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I mentioned why: divorce law changed to allow more divorces. There hasn't been a significant change in the divorce rate since then. It's true there's also been a decline in the marriage rate (sort of; it's mostly that people are putting off marriage until later), but that's separate from the divorce rate. Divorce rates are based on the pool of married people, not the pool of all people. What do you think my bias is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 01:53 AM
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Men can produce far more offspring than women, so you dudes have a lot more potential to produce as many smart babies as possible. What are you wasting your time on the Internet for? Get out there and knock up some fugly scientists! Civilization depends on it!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 01:48 AM
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Yeah, divorce rates in the U.S. reached a high in the 1980s when the last major changes to divorce law took effect. If anything, they've decreased slightly since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 08:14 PM
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When you give SMP control entirely to women who pick who has the sexiest 6 pack, the population gets dumber. Thank goodness RP combats this by encouraging men to value intelligence and success in women and not just go after the hottest babe they think they can score.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 08:08 PM
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What feminists have lost their jobs for being a feminist? What feminist protests have had men outside, screaming at the attendees that they are rape apologists for attending a feminist talk? Early feminists were threatened, harassed, jailed, and, in the U.K., beaten and tortured by police. Civil rights activists in the 1960s went through far worse than just getting yelled at. Same with gay rights activists. People have died for social justice. Feminist activists are still in danger in areas wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 08:10 AM
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No, no, no. When men manipulate, throw temper tantrums, and play the victim, they're awesome alphas applying the lessons of the Red Pill. It's only bad when women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:55 AM
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Why are you with someone you dislike this much? Is it just for the kids? This stuff is so weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:51 AM
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Yeah, I'm curious to hear this plan. We cut down on rape, domestic violence, and job discrimination by making those things illegal. What are you going to do, call the police on a woman if she doesn't have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:27 AM
4

Indeed one BPer said as much. In other words, they didn't actually say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 06:22 AM
3

Assuming a closed SMP where assortative mating would occur, simply insert the values of Fat and Skinny into the following formula: X = S(F)1xF(F)/S(F)2 where X = the net amount of banging. Voila!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:40 PM
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Hey, I'm not the one insisting that attraction is genetically hardwired. I think people like all kinds of crazy stuff that has little or nothing to do with reproductive viability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:36 AM
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And doesn't he sound like a charmer? Those women sure missed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:34 AM
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"I've taken that advice to heart and have actively approached low-SMV women (fatties, junkies, plain jains, single moms and neurotics) and still find that these same women feel like they're above me in SMV for them to reject me the way they do; one unattractive fat woman on Tinder actually asked me if I have abs and wanted a pic...this uneducated, out of shape landwhale feels like she deserves a guy with abs who makes bank. Shouldn't she be expected to lower her standards as well?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 09:31 AM
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Evidence that looks correlate to health and intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 07:11 AM
1

I can never figure out if I'm repulsing them or not. Sometimes it's impossible for a woman to be unattractive because men will bang anything and that's just biological reality, and sometimes I'm completely unfuckable for things like aging past 25, having a job, fatness, tallness, and talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:53 AM
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People want what they want. If this woman you don't even like chooses to pass over your generous offer of discount dick to stay at home for the evening, that's on her. There may not be a lot of ripped dudes looking for fat ladies, but apparently she's willing to wait until one shows up. I know people with dating standards I personally consider silly and arbitrary, but as long as they're not whining about how unfair it is that the gender of their choice isn't collectively making itself over to pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:27 AM
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Except for the part where his lone evidence of women having too-high standards was a woman not going out with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:12 AM
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It's baffling that heavy women don't want to date a guy who uses phrases like "landwhale." There's female irrationality for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:11 AM
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I see non-hot men dating hot women more often than I see the opposite. Some women have bonkers taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:08 AM
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I think RP men vastly overestimate the amount of sex everyone else is having. All surveys on the subject suggest that the average woman has 4-5 sexual partners in her lifetime. Even if these women are rounding down a little, that's not especially promiscuous. Obviously there are women who have had many more partners, but RP fantasies about the average woman sleeping with dozens or hundreds of men (all of them sexy alphas who even lift and have bigger dicks than the RP guy making up this scenario…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 06:03 AM
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Fat means a woman has plenty of calories to spare on pregnancy. If you're interested in women's bodies strictly for "biological importance," run like a maniac from skinny women, because they clearly haven't been able to secure enough food to prepare themselves for babymaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 05:46 AM
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So...you've personally watched lots of women have sex with lots of different men, in various positions, closely enough that you can tell how aroused they get each time. Where is this happening? Because I'm coming over with popcorn. What if the good-looking bass player is also a guy she feels comfortable with? Is the sex HOT... or NOT?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 05:38 AM
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How do you know how your friends' wives feel during sex, what their level of arousal was in every past relationship, and how many sexual partners every one of them has had? I have no idea how sexually aroused any of my friends get, much less their spouses. You must have interesting cocktail parties. Do you think that if they were with "alphas," they wouldn't drink, gain weight (someone is heavier at fifty than they were at twenty? How unprecedented!), or have job woes? How would this work? I'm s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 05:22 AM
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Any evidence of this? He's not the handsomest fellow in the world, but he seems smart and socially adept enough that I bet he didn't have a ton of trouble. Mark Zuckerberg (the real one, not the movie version) and his wife were college classmates and started dating long before he became a billionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 03:43 AM
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Women aren't people, silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 03:25 AM
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I'm just saying, women have red skin and horns and tails with like those little arrow points on the end. How is that demonizing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 01:41 AM
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History is filled with remarkable women who overcame absurd barriers to excel. It's great that you're learning more about them. Take, for just one example, Emmy Noether, a mathematician who helped lay the groundwork for modern theoretical physics. She was born in Germany, one of the world's centers of math and physics at the time, which would have given her a great advantage were it not for the fact that German high schools and universities didn't take women. Wealthy girls could go to finishing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 06:22 AM
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Obviously I want to be valued for my talents, accomplishments, and contributions to the world. Those are the things I value in myself. I don't think you dudes understand what rich opportunities you have in this area. If you want to make yourself more attractive to women, you can work on your looks...or you can build your career, or go for a degree, or do charity work, or take bass guitar lessons, or learn how to make a perfect cup of espresso, or paint, or climb Mt. Everest, or build an artcar a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 01:48 AM
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There's a neat psychological experiment showing that most kids learn the concept "other people don't know what I know" around age three or four. The researcher goes into a room with a kid, shows them a soup can with jelly beans inside, then closes the can and says, "If we bring Mommy in and ask her what's in the can, what will she say?" Below a certain age, the kids answer, "jellybeans," because they know the can contains jellybeans so obviously Mommy must know it too. Then, after a certain age,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:02 PM
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I didn't know my husband was attracted to me for a long time. He was very shy with girls and wouldn't ask me out or tell me how he felt. It didn't help that I'd previously had a huge crush on a guy who sent out similar mixed signals and had turned out to not be interested in me. Of course, my husband wasn't a "beta orbiter." He was a cool guy I was friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 08:50 PM
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I do enjoy both those things, thanks! But my husband has a lot to offer too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:48 AM
0

Why don't you RP guys who are mad about not getting laid meet up and have sex with each other? Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:45 AM
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God, I would love to have this onerous "burden of performance." Hot dudes throwing themselves at me because I work hard and do awesome things? Yes please. Actually I did pick up my husband by showing him my comics, and he's very hot, so I guess it worked out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:16 AM
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So...loving someone for their personality, intelligence, talents, achievements, and inner self is shallow and false. Real, deep, meaningful love is based strictly on hotness. And it's eternal, unless the object of love does something stupid like eat a cookie or age past 25. You're right. I don't understand this version of love at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:14 AM
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"A 2009 study published in the journal Cancer found that a married woman diagnosed with a serious disease is six times more likely to be divorced or separated than a man with a similar diagnosis." http://www.cnn.com/2011/LIVING/07/21/sick.couples.o/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 01:03 AM
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Who cares about what you find sexually appealing? This is about the most rational choice for your financial security. It's foolish to date people based on things like "attraction" and "chemistry" and "having any interest whatsoever in being with this person" when you could be working on your looks in the hope of hooking up with a rich sugar daddy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 12:57 AM
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The media has been freaking out over "hookup culture" since I was college student (in my senior year, Spin magazine even published an article on the topic focusing on my college), and I'm friggin' old. It's just so much pearl-clutching. Young people are always going to have casual sex, and old people are always going to get pissed about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 02:13 AM
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Women are not trophies handed out to men as a reward for the best manning. I swear, we're just people doing people stuff. Don't get mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 02:03 AM
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Men say that all the time and everyone's pretty cool with it. Dating someone who has a kid is difficult and can involve a level of commitment not everyone wants. I know guys who've dated single moms and broken it off for that reason, and it was completely understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:58 AM
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No, they're saying it's wrong to praise men and not praise women for doing the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:54 AM
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If someone is willing to act like a bigoted shitheel because he thinks it helps him "get pussy," he is not a good person and never was. I'm not sure why this is confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:52 AM
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Well, you're living in the same economy as the rest of us. Are you currently searching for a rich guy you have no sexual interest in so you can sponge off him? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:44 AM
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If not wanting to date someone is "spitting" on them, then brother, I have been covered in saliva throughout my sad little life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:41 AM
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This is one of the things I find baffling about RP and manosphere thought in general: the idea that y'alls invented being jerks to women and everyone else is super nice. I'm reminded by a quote by Linda Ellerbee about interviewing Hunter S. Thompson: "He was under the impression that we had never seen an asshole before and would be impressed." I've never seen a woman spitting on a man for being short. That sounds horrible. Where did you see that and who did it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 07:25 AM
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So much of the Red Pill seems to be about inventing convoluted ways to avoid the terrifying possibility that women are just regular people. Women prefer attractive, fun men over plain, boring men? But why? What could possibly explain this bizarre predilection?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 07:16 AM
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I'm a feminist and I don't think that. My mother was a SAHM and a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 07:06 AM
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Meh, it's no skin off the professor's nose if you want to waste your time in her class. I'm sure there are students who are there to learn and engage with the material; she can focus on them. Get your easy A, snigger about how dumb other people are for caring about slavery and oppression and stuff, and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:57 AM
1

You don't think there was sexism in ancient Greece?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:51 AM
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Not really. There aren't a lot of jobs in the modern military that call for huge strength, and if it's really an issue women can be drafted into other roles. My 100-pound cousin served in the Air Force. You don't need big muscles to fly a plane. On the contrary, being small is an advantage. And she was plenty strong by the time she got through basic training.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:34 AM
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Damn, we're not even good at mutating. I'd feel bad if I were capable of human emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:30 AM
2

Married almost 15 years now to one of the most amazing people I've ever known, and I know a lot of amazing people. All these debates over relationship structures and dynamics are weird to me. We just...like each other? And want each other to be happy and fulfilled? RP guys strike me as very frightened of being hurt by relationships and eager to subscribe to a system that promises to protect them from hurt. There's no such thing. Life is risk, love is dangerous, and other people don't exist for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 01:00 AM
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This is great because as I was reading through her post I was thinking how none of these relationships bear any resemblance to the RP idea of how humans work. I'd love to hear your mind hamster explain how a depressed guy who killed himself is an alpha she's secretly pining for, an unemployed stoner and a guy who likes stereotypical romantic stuff are alpha players (I thought only white-knight betas give women flowers and jewelry?), and her current boyfriend is a beta. Most of the guys were youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:45 AM
1

Are you writing this from a feminist labor camp patrolled by jackbooted ladies with machine guns? Because actually that would be awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:54 AM
1

I'm not sure how yelling at some men for making fun of you in misogynist. Is it possible the girl felt sorry for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:13 AM
1

Human men and human women share 100% of the same DNA. There are some traits that men only have one gene for, rather than two, thanks to the shape of the Y chromosome. The presence of the Y chromosome also causes some traits to be expressed and others to not be expressed, creating most of the physical differences between men and women. Men and women do not have separate sets of genes. They're the same species. Really. Man science is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:05 AM
2

Relax. Don't put up with bullshit. You look fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 09:07 AM
1

I'd really like to see this in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:31 PM
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"No it hasn't. You're thinking perhaps of the white feather campaign?" It's interesting that you bring up the white feather campaign (obviously a solid representation of modern feminist thought, since it happened 100 years ago). The major suffragist who supported it, Emmeline Pankhurst, also supported a draft for women. She wanted all able-bodied men to be drafted into the military and all able-bodied women to be drafted into factories for the war effort. Oh, and she ordered her fellow suffragis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:28 PM
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There's a split on feminist thought on prostitution. Some want it legalized. Others want it criminalized--that is, it's not illegal to sell sex, but it's illegal to buy it. The practical problem with simply legalizing prostitution is that it doesn't seem to cut down on the illegal sex trade and human trafficking. There are still johns who want to abuse sex workers and/or have unsafe sex, there are still sex workers desperate enough to let them do it, and creating a legal sex work market just dri…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:19 PM
2

It would make it much easier to be a stay-at-home parent without going broke, and provide some acknowledgement that childcare is valuable work. Both moms and dads could take advantage of this. Whether it's practical to implement is another matter, but it's a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:06 PM
1

It's possible that some respondents are feminists but want feminism to be less critical of men, but honestly, a 2% difference is probably just a sampling error.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:09 AM
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It may be due to the phrasing of the question. The Vox poll simply asks if respondents consider themselves feminists, to which 18% answered yes. The WP post poll offers the options of "strong feminist," "feminist," "not a feminist," and "anti-feminist." 17% of women and 10% of men identified as "strong feminists"--that is, a similar (but a bit smaller) percentage that identified as feminists in the Vox poll. Maybe only people who feel strongly about feminism want to give themselves the label "fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:04 AM
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I'm not aware of any feminists who think women shouldn't be garbage collectors or coal miners. Garbage collector is a pretty good job, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:34 AM
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HAHAHA no. I guess there are people who are into it, and good on them. Personally, I can't respect a man who needs a woman to pretend she's not his equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 03:35 AM
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Ugh, no. Not my type at all. Which is fine, as I'm sure this hypothetical man would find me very boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 10:18 AM
3

It's a measure of what a joke Trump is that hating half the population of the country he would theoretically lead barely makes the top ten of reasons he would be a bad leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:14 AM
2

If he can build a wall across Mexico, ban Muslims, and stop ISIS by yelling, surely he can launch nukes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:07 AM
1

Are you old enough to remember the 2000 election? One of Bush's campaign slogans was that he was the "MBA candidate" and would run the country like a business. (His record as a businessman wasn't very good, but neither is Trump's.) And he did. He siphoned money to his cronies and their companies, ran up debt, made economic decisions that created short-term gains at the cost of a huge long-term crash, and retired just in time for everything to go to hell. Exactly the behavior that makes businessm…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 07:03 AM
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Mammals have all sorts of different reproductive strategies. Just looking at our two closest relatives, chimps and bonobos, they have completely different social structures and sexual habits. Neither chimps nor bonobos have setups where females only mate with a few "alpha males"; in fact, females in both species mate freely with a lot of partners. Humans have fairly low gender dymorphism. We're not like, say, baboons, where males are always at least twice the size of females and often have big r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 05:06 AM
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Well, you can't trust what men say about themselves. You don't ask a fish about fishing, do you? If I want to know about men's feelings and experiences, I'll ask some women, thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 01:50 AM
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Let's see... my husband: Is passionately in love with me and totally loyal, as I am to him. I'm sure he looks at other women. I think he's extremely good-looking, although we've never gone to the Institute of Objective Attractiveness to have him formally rated on a 1-10 scale. He works a low-paying job at a nonprofit that he's passionate about. He is obsessed with comic books. He's a quiet guy who likes hanging out with friends and seldom drinks. I'm a little more social than he is, but we're bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/16 01:43 AM
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Oh my god, do not send her pictures. Imagine you break up with a girl, start seeing someone else, and move on. Then, over a year later, she sends you a picture of herself and she's lost 60 pounds and there's a note saying "Ha ha, now I'm as skinny as your new girlfriend SO THERE." Is your reaction: a) "Aw, man, she's hot now. Better dump my current equally hot girlfriend and beg her to take me back." b) "It's so sweet that her life still revolves around our long-over relationship. Giving up on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 09:42 PM
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Morning: Slept in a very alpha style. On my stomach, which humans evolved as the most dominant way of sleeping. Wore socks to bed because socks create a subconscious psychological connection to shoes, which create a connection to me walking out the door, instilling dread game. Also because my feet were cold. My morning breath inspired dread in a different but still very alpha way. My husband recognized the high value I was demonstrating, because we had a morning quickie. A RP victory right out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:10 PM
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Just now I asked my husband to hand me the remote. I could never have made such an alpha demand without months of training myself to see men as subhuman creatures put on earth to serve me, but he recognized my superior value and gave me the remote, proving the inferiority and submissive nature of all men. Also he totally wanted to do me. You bet I'm a rebel. A rebel who's watching "The X-Files."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:53 AM
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Wait, which version of this story is accurate? You asked how much longer she was planning to use the leg press, hoping that she'd get the hint. When she didn't, you asked her directly, at which point she apologized and left. You asked her to get off the leg press, but she had headphones on and didn't hear you. You started screaming at her until she left. The first is a totally reasonable interaction, the second seems... a bit excessive. (I admit I'm secretly hoping this story will keep getting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 08:35 AM
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It's also laughable to tell me to get advice from women. There's a reason TRPers love the old 'don't ask the fish how to fish' line. Oh, geez, I'm sorry. I thought you knew. The horrible truth is... I'm a woman. I know, it's awful. And here you are, listening to advice from me. Please do your best to forget everything I've written so far, lest you be infected by tricksy lady thoughts. Definitely do not respond to this post. It's too dangerous. Instead, show my writing to a man and ask him what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/16 07:48 AM
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Why do you think not everyone can hunt? It's not that hard. Anyway, we were talking about which job is more valuable to society, not which job is harder, and in most hunter-gatherer societies the gatherers bring in more food. You didn't answer my question about the feminist farmers. This is very frustrating. I have a whole wallet full of feminist farmers I need to convert to non-feminist farmers, and I need to know the conversion rate STAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:53 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure why you need to adopt an entire misogynistic mindset where you see women as subhuman monster-slaves just to make a reasonable request. "Hey, there are a lot of people waiting to use the leg press. Could you keep it down to ten-minute sets?" That's not Red Pill. That's just a regular thing to say when you want to use the leg press.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 05:46 AM
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But all the instructions on the website are about serving ice cream with poop on it! There is no information about non-poopy ice cream! And the site insists the poop is essential and you're missing the entire point of ice cream if you don't eat big spoonfuls of poop with it. It's covered in gifs of Morpheus going WHAT IF I TOLD YOU POOP IS DELICIOUS I would personally not trust that website to have trustworthy information about ice cream, even if I managed to sort out all the stuff about poop. "…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 03:45 AM
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Damn, when my parents named me Shaenon they condemned me to a lifetime of belittlement. Every barista at Starbucks is shit-testing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 02:08 AM
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I dunno, but dressing up is not mistreating other people. Insulting people is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 01:54 AM
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My parents have been married for 40 years. Is my dad a chad? What can you tell me about my dad's personality? My mom's? I've only been married for 14 years. Is that enough to make my husband a chad, or does he have to wait another six for formal chadship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 01:03 AM
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Yeah, there are so many RP "success stories" where the negging and manipulation and alpha-ing seem to be going on entirely inside the guy's head. If I asked someone for help on a project and he said, "Only if you pay me, har har," I'd laugh politely. It wouldn't occur to me that he seriously thinks I should pay him because he has deigned to descend from the heavens and gift me, a mere woman, with his godly presence and attendant CS 101 skills. If I thought that, I'd laugh for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:21 PM
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Being confident and making conversation is great, but most women really don't like being condescended to, mainly because we get it all the damn time. Why do RP dudes think they invented being smug dicks to women? I mean, this "I make it clear through speaking that I am smarter on a specific subject, and better equipped to answer this request for help than others, and that getting help from me is a prize, not something one should take for granted" just sounds childish and tiresome. Good god, toda…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:12 PM
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Why would the hunter be more valuable than the gatherer? In most subsistence societies, the gatherers bring in most of the staple food. Hunters are more vital in, say, traditional Inuit society, but in most parts of the world plants are more plentiful than animals. What if the feminists are also farmers? Or what if the feminists are doctors? Are they still less valuable than the farmers? What is the feminist-to-farmer conversion ratio? At any rate, all human life has value, and prawns are delici…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:02 PM
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If you're looking for a comprehensive, reliable, one-size-fits-all rulebook on "how to find one's place, meaning, and importance as a man in the modern world," it doesn't exist, and anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something. I wouldn't go to that convenient full-service ice cream place if the ice cream was always served with a huge steaming turd on top. And some of the regulars were trying to eat around the turd, but most of them were going, "No, no, you have to eat the turd…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:46 PM
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That's nice, but a) the sexual revolution and modern feminist movement didn't just happen in America, and b) even in feminist America, we have elderly couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 07:17 PM
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Modern feminism has been around for 50-60 years now, and yet there are still plenty of old couples. Wait, you can have elderly Chads? What does that look like? Sam Elliott, maybe? It's true that after my grandma died, my grandpa was very popular with the ladies at the nursing home on account of having all his hair and teeth. Teeth are very alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:32 AM
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"If just going out and talking to women a lot got you laid, guys would just be like 'hey y'all, started actually talking to women and I'm all fixed. Thanks for everything and have a good life!' That never happens." Of course it does. That's how it works for the 99.9% of the male population that's not on Reddit bitching about how women suck and trading ideas for horrible things to do to them. Moving in nerd circles as I do, I know a lot of guys who were late bloomers when it came to dating and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 09:06 AM
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You've never heard of anyone just asking a girl out? Ever? How did your parents meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 08:54 AM
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Honestly, it's not that hard to get laid. PUA advice works to the degree that it encourages men to work on their appearance and social skills, put themselves out there, and not get discouraged by rejection. All the he-man woman-hating stuff does more harm than good. Did you notice that neither of the guys in your links actually got laid? They went home alone and jumped online to spin ego-saving stories and microanalyze every interaction. The woman in the first story didn't even seem to notice th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 03:46 AM
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What you're asking is a vital human question. Namely: is there a rational reason to behave ethically? To act with empathy toward people different from you? To strive for more than immediate personal gratification? Most people would answer yes to these questions, but for many different reasons. Personally, I find my life is valuable only to the degree I make the world a better place and myself a better person. Cynically using people, reveling in selfishness, refusing to listen or learn: that sort…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/16 01:12 AM
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She does say to date those men. And THEN TO MARRY THEM. The advice is: date whatever guys you want, even if they're not great long-term prospects, but only commit to a guy who respects and supports you. Men are given this advice all the time. If a guy told you, "It's okay for you to date flaky bimbos for fun, but don't marry one of them, marry a reliable woman who supports you," would you think that advice was pro-bimbo?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 10:05 PM
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Any time I've seen a relationship where the partners made a big fuss over the man being in charge, either it was outright abusive or, more often, the woman ran around coddling and sheltering the man to prop up his ego and he was comically blind to it. My grandparents were like that. What was really frustrating was that over time the dynamic just made my grandpa more self-centered and childish. The nadir was when my grandma was in the hospital with terminal cancer and my grandpa stood by her bed …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 09:26 PM
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That's the beauty of complementarian relationships: anything that goes wrong is the woman's fault, yet the man still feels entitled to prance about bragging about his awesome responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 09:14 PM
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Why would you marry a woman you don't trust enough to treat as an equal and listen to? And if you trust her, why so much stress about giving her a little bit of control?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 09:12 PM
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Adolescent edgelords playing at being cartoon supervillains. Two things particularly amuse me: Every bad thing they accuse women of is something they aspire to themselves. Women are shallow and "hypergamous," but it's okay for them to be obsessed with looks and status. Women are too demanding, but they want to be waited on hand and foot. Women are irrational and have hamsters in their heads, but it's totally rational to swallow any made-up crap on the internet that flatters a cranky misogynist's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 09:03 PM
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It's psychologically natural for a woman to be disgusted by a man who wasted his manly essence on a bunch of different women and for a man to be impressed by a woman who's practiced enough to be awesome at sex. This is SCIENCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 05:42 PM
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...or maybe women have actual real problems and it's not a trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 05:33 PM
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Have a job, don't burp too much. Stop embellishing, because that's what is required to be bangable by the majority of women. Glad we've resolved all the problems between the Stereotypical Sitcom Sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 11:12 AM
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On an anonymous survey? I guess men might round up and women might round down, but I doubt the average woman is having pornstar orgies with dozens of dudes and then telling the CDC she's only been with four or five guys ever. I mean, it'd be awesome, but what would be the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 11:03 AM
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Yes yes, hypergamy, despite being a word with an agreed meaning is entirely made up. What IS the agreed meaning? Because so far I've heard these definitions of "hypergamy": a) Women want to dump me for a richer guy b) Women want to dump me for a cooler guy c) Women want to dump me for a handsomer guy d) Women will date me if I can prove I'm their objective superior ...none of which, I might as well note, is anything close to the dictionary definition of the word. This makes useful discussion ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:57 AM
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Meh. If she's only attracted to a small number of people, them's the breaks. As long as she's not blaming men as a gender for failing to turn her on, I don't see what's unreasonable about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:50 AM
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In the large majority of mammals, females and males differ largely on both their physical and social roles. Wolves, Apes, Chimps, Monkeys, hyena, Lions etc. Not really. This stuff varies a lot from species to species. To wit: Wolves: Very low sexual dimorphism. Packs are family groups overseen by an alpha couple. Males and females hunt together. Apes: Depends on the species. Within the great apes alone, you've got male-led harems (gorillas), female-led hierarchies (bonobos), and free-for-alls wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:40 AM
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"You can turn a lot of people into nurses, but not everyone into an engineer." What makes you say that? If you're talking computer engineering, it's not especially difficult and doesn't require more than a bachelor's degree. Nursing requires an advanced education and a lot of specialized knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:19 AM
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Not to be glib, but I've never been in any kind of relationship with a woman that didn't at some point go into emotional outburst mode. Some are much better than others, but its happened with each and every LTR mate, female friend, and female family I've known. When they get stressed, instead of calming down and thinking clearly they tend to get emotional, upset, and start freaking out. Which is precisely why I'm Captain. If I freak out over some emergency, its after the fact. In the moment, col…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 07:17 AM
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Come to think of it, what is with these men thinking they can be chefs? For hundreds of years, women did most of the cooking, so obviously men are incapable of running a kitchen. I've certainly never eaten tasty food from a male-run restaurant, and if you say you have you're lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 07:07 AM
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"Before you all freak out, this is a total generalization. But I've lost track of the number of women I've met who seem promising but then, when faced with adversity or challenge, wimp out in one way or the other. " And I've met lots of men who just want to fart around on the Internet and play video games all day. Ergo, women are better and smarter than men, probably because of hormones or something, and relationships work best when women boss men around. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:55 AM
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Not being critical, because outside of our own heads most of this is opinion. RP theory doesn't really cover ANYTHING from the woman's perspective. That might be your first clue that it's not a very useful theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:43 AM
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When Jane requests something out of Bob in front of their friends, Bob's friends reply "you better go do that before you're in the dog house har har har"... its rather nauseating. To me, that doesn't suggest that Jane has lots of power. It suggests that Bob is assumed to be the one in power and the idea of him taking Jane seriously is funny and/or emasculating. I agree it's nauseating. What requests is Jane making that would be considered abusive if they came from a man? Is she telling him to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:41 AM
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Sorry. There's also lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 03:27 AM
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AWALT means instead of using thought and nuance, a man gets to dismiss a woman's concerns out of hand. It's convenient! That's just the hamster you have in your head instead of a brain talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 03:18 AM
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"It is a set of principles all women possess. Hypergamy, solipsism, and machiavellianism." But those are just traits most people possess in some degree. I mean, aren't scoring with "high market value" babes, being proudly self-centered, and trying to manipulate people the core goals of Red Pillin' it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 01:44 AM
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I came here immediately after reading another thread where a RPer was explaining that it's Red Pill for everyone to sleep around because that's the way animals mate in the wild. (Well, some animals. Animals do lots of different things.) It's convenient how the natural order always happens to be whatever the RPer in question personally wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 12:14 AM
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I agree, but I'd phrase it as, "Eventually she'll tire of living with a self-absorbed ass who only cares about her weight and her 'market value,' and she'll dump him to go look for a healthy relationship." But that'd probably happen if she stayed fat, too. You should date people you actually want to date. Anything else is wasting time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 12:01 AM
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I have a secret for you. At some point, hopefully not long from now, you'll look at a picture of yourself from when you started dating this insecure little creep and realize you were perfectly fine. And he knew it, and was scared he wasn't good enough for you, so he tore you down and made you feel like you had to prove yourself to him instead. I mean, did he actually say "you meet my minimum sexual standards?" That is hilarious. The next time he tries that crap, laugh in his face for me. Say it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:56 PM
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Oh, no, I can have an awesome job and casual sex and horrible men won't try to marry me! Get me out of this briar patch, feminism! It must be amazing to have such an inflated ego that four of the ten worst things you can imagine happening to another person are “not getting to marry me.”
/r/MensRights14/12/15 07:26 AM
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I dunno, this one online forum where lonely, frustrated men tell each other that women secretly want to be treated like shit, and when women say, "Ew, no, just don't be an asshole," they yell at her and insist it's totally going to work one of these days and it's a mystery why J-Law isn't blowing them right now? What's the name of that place again?
/r/MensRights23/11/15 09:34 PM
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