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“Their entire worldview depends on the commodity model, and on a corollary view of their own entitlement: that there must be some “proper” way for them to act and “get” sex; that if they do all the “right” things, they will unlock the lock and get laid”. Holy cow that is so blatantly and disgustingly sexist. Rather than nice men being nice because they are... nice men.. they are only being nice because they think that's what they have to do to get laid. Everything a man does he does to get laid …
/r/MensRights17/11/15 08:16 PM
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Wow she is a reeeeally bad actor... the cringe factor is off the scale..
/r/MensRights17/11/15 08:08 PM
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That's just not true. In Sweden, where I live, no one is prosecuted for thought-crime of this nature. I really doubt we are the only country that doesn't do this. Also, "always" is a funny word. The world changes constantly. It's a silly defeatist attitude to say anything will always be the case.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 08:35 PM
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He's saying that no one should be prosecuted for bullshit thought crime, men nor women. You didn't address this. Instead you responded saying "but he was prosecuted". Yes, that guy never claimed otherwise. Then you continue to point out sarkeesian and quinn wanted this law. Okay. So what? How does that change anything? The law should still not exist, for men or for women. Finally you point out that "now we have precedent to say "if you're a woman, the laws don't apply to you".". You're absolutel…
/r/MensRights03/11/15 08:13 PM
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I'm sorry but it's obvious that you and him are not talking about the same thing. He's not (necessarily) disagreeing with any of the things you said in that post. You're not addressing his point at all.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 08:03 PM
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Why are you ignoring everything he said and talking about something else?
/r/MensRights03/11/15 07:49 PM
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Her mom flipped out and plain forbid him Huh? Did he have a sex change while you wrote that sentence?
/r/MensRights12/06/15 03:50 PM
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To the men problem.
/r/MensRights12/09/14 03:31 PM
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I thought it was equal on paper. I guess it's different in different countries.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 02:56 PM
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Well, having an advantage/disadvantage in family courts is social discrimination, not law.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 02:45 PM
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That's all well and good. No one is asking you to feel terrible about your dick and be depressed and feel broken or anything. But I don't see how being able to accept a life without a foreskin means we should perpetuate the removal of more foreskins. Foreskins are obviously a good thing to have, and if anyone doesn't want theirs they are still free to elect to have it removed as an adult.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 11:28 AM
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How could you possibly know what you are missing? People who still have their foreskins can easily simulate what it's like without one by simply pulling it all the way down, and I can tell you there is a world of difference. The foreskin is a vital part of sexual stimulation for men. Not only does it contain a ton of nerve endings, it also shields the sensitive glans, has a surface on the inside that feels much like a pussy, has a special no-friction rolling/folding mechanism and gives you 3 lay…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 10:09 AM
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People (feminists especially) don't care about the people on the bottom. The focus is always on people who have it better than you, so you can feel sorry for yourself and feel righteous about your desire to advance upwards (while stepping on the invisible people beneath your feet). That's why when you talk about the higher variance in men they only hear "more men are geniuses" and the whole "more men are handicapped, have mental problems, are homeless, etc." just doesn't enter their minds in any…
/r/MensRights07/08/14 11:40 AM
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Devils advocate: Men are inferior in every way except physical strength, which they use to oppress the intelligent and noble women.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 11:35 AM
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So why don't they? Because they want the attention. Ooooor they just want to look good for themselves, which makes them feel good and increases their self esteem. Just like men. Do you only dress well for attention? If not, why do you think women are any different?
/r/MensRights06/08/14 03:10 AM
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I see hot women constantly when I go outside. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and I have no desire to verbally harass them. Same goes for most people so I really don't see your point. This is not a problem and framing it as such is ridiculous. You're acting like a feminist, trying to warp reality into a place where you are the victim. Fucking stop. Just stop. Shame on you.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 02:51 AM
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Wow I'm disappointed with this sub for the first time in a long while. What's with this circle jerk? OP is pulling a logical knot that'd make your average radfem gasp with jealousy. Street harassment is somehow about men being oppressed by women flaunting their unavailable sexuality? Give me a fucking break....
/r/MensRights05/08/14 06:01 PM
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Right I understand those things. But what she said wasn't that the law defines male rape victims out of existence. She said men can't be raped if they had a hard on. There are no laws that make a difference between a man having a hard on or not, so she was wrong.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 05:12 PM
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Asses can be too big? This is news to me.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:39 AM
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Paul Elam and AVFM are the extremists of the MRM. Of course they are nowhere near as extreme as the extreme feminists.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:32 AM
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When it comes to actual, legal rights, men and women are the same. Everyone has equal opportunity. At least in the US. Not really. Conscription and Duluth model comes to mind. Also that until a few years ago the legal definition of rape excluded men (I think this has been changed now but I'm not sure, someone else wheigh in on this please).
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:30 AM
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I don't see what the problem is..? Is the world going to become a worse place because we share a commercial that is breaking new ground in the depiction of men in media? If anything it's good that they are rewarded for doing things right.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 11:23 AM
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Don't blame the women using the shelters. They're not the ones making these decisions.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 10:59 AM
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And sadly, she's right. Umm..
/r/MensRights05/08/14 10:41 AM
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Yes but that has nothing to do with whether or not the guy had a hard on, so no she wasn't right.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 12:39 AM
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Sounds strange.. if what they're saying is 80% don't lead to a conviction that sounds reasonable. But 80% being provably false accusations? No way they could even prove 80% of cases even if it was 80% false accusations. So I'm deeply sceptical.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 10:41 AM
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Beyond that I think the notion that a woman can't hurt a man is ludicrous. I have a challenge for any woman who thinks they can't hurt a man physically: Go punch a man you love (spouse, brother, father, friend, whatever) right in the face as hard as you can. Oh, you don't want to do that? Oh gee, why's that? After all, he won't feel a thing, so it shouldn't be a problem right??
/r/MensRights03/08/14 02:06 AM
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Wackos or not it is a basic tenet of feminism that women have way worse problems than men (patriarchy theory). Feminism is at it's core straight up denying most male issues. Until feminism reforms away from patriarchy theory there can be no alliance. There is also the fact that big feminist organisations have (with success) fought against legislation meant to help men for decades. I think you need to wake up, read up, and realise that feminism might not be what you thought it was.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 12:37 AM
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I'm 100% sure if there was a gender swapped cover feminists would be up in arms about it and calling it rapey.
/r/MensRights02/08/14 12:21 AM
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I don't like how she brought up stay at home moms. There's nothing wrong with being a stay at home mom if your husband is ok with it (in fact, what a luxury). But bringing it up might make people think they believe women should be stay at home moms and are a bunch of socially conservative gender traditionalists. You know how much they like to misrepresent the MRM and other anti-feminist movements, so don't make it easier for them.
/r/MensRights30/07/14 12:33 PM
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Jeans are a type of pants. Genes is the word you are looking for.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 11:36 AM
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Patriarchy will NEVER have a definition. Saying so doesn't make it so. What is your supporting argumentation? something that people don't want defined. Funny that feminists were happy to help create these new definitions if they "don't want it defined".
/r/MensRights21/07/14 10:24 AM
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Sigh.. what's so hard to understand about this. Patriarchy doesn't have a good definition now no. Thus giving it one makes it attackable. You just stating that it can't be given a definition doesn't just make it so. You're completely irrational. You don't even realise you can't even "analyze why the word is meaningless" if it doesn't have a definition.
/r/MensRights20/07/14 08:30 PM
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I think this poster is suggesting that you simply don't allow people to use the word. Force them to define their beliefs instead. Which is what I'm doing with this...
/r/MensRights19/07/14 11:29 PM
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The same cannot be said for some women. Fixt. I'm sure that's what you meant to begin with, but on a sub devoted to gender issues it's important to be clear so people don't think you're generalizing a whole gender. Also when it comes to communities centered around discussing gender issues I think it's valid for people to point out their gender.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 11:23 AM
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I'm sure you'd be equally ok with a feminist ranting about men being sociopaths?
/r/MensRights16/07/14 10:35 PM
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The bpd, sociopathic or narcissist personality of woman today Then you should probably communicate better because that's exactly what it sounds like.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 10:20 PM
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AVFM isn't exactly representative of the "mainstream" MRM. Saying that all or most women are narcissistic sociopaths is not only ludicrous but also misogynistic and paints our movement in a terrible light. We can't be opposed to feminists and society in general picturing men as sociopaths and then turn around and say the same about women. Secondly your post in particular doesn't tell me anything about narcissistic sociopath women, only that your typical craigslist user isn't very imaginative or …
/r/MensRights16/07/14 10:11 PM
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What even is this other than some bullshit misogyny? What does it have to do with the MRM? Go home, you're drunk...
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:45 PM
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I'm not sure what this has to do with my post. Did you respond to the right person?
/r/MensRights15/07/14 01:29 PM
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Sex trafficking is not just a woman's issue though. It happens to men and boys too but since women receive more empathy in general in society their problems are more recognized in general. Most people don't even realise it's a thing that men and boys suffer from trafficking, and this is the kind of thinking we want to change. Obviously stopping trafficking of women and girls is an admirable goal, but sidelining male victims is not. Also, think about the public perception of trafficking of women …
/r/MensRights15/07/14 01:26 PM
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But everybody knows human trafficking and under-age prostitution is only a problem for women and girls! Omg omg stop derailing!
/r/MensRights15/07/14 09:01 AM
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You know, it's also the fact that black and white thinking is ingrained in the very core of feminism with the concepts of patriarchy and the oppressed vs privileged.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 08:08 AM
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For women in the west there is social discrimination. AFAIK there is no legal discrimination against women (correct me if I'm wrong). Also what irony that one of your examples is "privilege". The feminist version of privilege is the denial of male issues and the simplification of sexism into a neat black and white oppressor and oppressed dichotomy. The very thing you are accusing us of. Are you projecting by any chance?
/r/MensRights14/07/14 10:17 PM
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Who is slamming down all female issues? Stop making shit up...
/r/MensRights14/07/14 10:00 PM
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Way to miss the point. The point is that feminism is not an appropriate vehicle to pursue equality. Not that we don't need equality.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 09:34 PM
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I can only play the cards I'm given. You made the initial argument, which I counter-argued, but you just repeat the initial argument in response. Because your counter argument amounts to "no, it won't work". No, it's a glaring problem with the overall reasoning. Yep. And we are not going to convince any feminist of that until we have deconstructed patriarchy for them and made them realise that many parts of it don't make sense. Only then can they look at the parts they still have left and realis…
/r/MensRights13/07/14 10:43 PM
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Don't know why you are getting downvoted. I think a lot of people only read the headline and got angry.. ugh.. -_-
/r/MensRights13/07/14 10:27 PM
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Again, you're not actually addressing the counter-argument. You're just mindlessly repeating the initial argument. I would say the same for you. It seems we aren't getting anywhere. One of the glaring problems is that they cling to even using the word patriarchy. If you're actually going to go to all that trouble it would be smarter to just not use the word at all. No, that's not a "glaring problem". That is called progress doesn't happen all at once.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 10:23 PM
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Let me try to simplify this. A concept that can mean different things to different people has no real world value. If every feminist defines patriarchy as something different from every other feminist then the term does not actually mean anything outside of that individuals mind. And my point is that it will no longer be a concept that means different things to different people. It will be different concepts that mean the same thing to everyone. The thing isn't to chose what patriarchy means to …
/r/MensRights13/07/14 09:30 PM
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What I said was that if patriarchy means different things to different people then it is meaningless in terms of any truth-based discussion. What an individual chooses to define as patriarchy is utterly irrelevant because no matter what they define it as the argument fails exactly because there is no accepted definition for the term. There is nothing to argue against because the idea was invalidated from the start. I think this is the crux of our disagreement. You seem to be arguing that when we…
/r/MensRights13/07/14 07:50 PM
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That was beautifully put, thanks. I'd give you gold if I wasn't poor. This really made me think.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 07:34 PM
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I did you're just ignoring it. I don't know how you can fail to see that if someone has to define their patriarchy we can finally attack it. It's completely irrelevant that there exist more than 1 version of patriarchy. You can be against the ones you want and for the ones you want. Just like the existence of the problem of racism doesn't somehow diminish your ability to argue against patriarchy, so does different versions of patriarchy not hinder you from arguing against the ones you oppose. Yo…
/r/MensRights13/07/14 07:11 PM
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By the gods you are bitter.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 06:11 PM
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Not at all. Before people could change their minds or some new person you talked to could say "but my patriarchy is different, you're misunderstanding patriarchy", without defining what exactly it means to them. When people define their version of patriarchy you can hold them to that. It makes a world of difference. I think you're just bitter to be honest and it's clouding your judgement.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 06:05 PM
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How about both? Being attacked less by feminists in general would be great. Having feminism evolve (or at least branch off) into a non misandrist ideology would also be great.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 05:27 PM
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I disagree. I think there has been some constructive things going on. For example (this was before my time, but I found it anyway) there was a discussion to nail down exactly what feminists mean by patriarchy a while back. They ended up with 4 different "types" of patriarchy you could combine as you wished (ie i subscribe to A and C but not B and D, this is my version of what patriarchy is). That's great as it allows us to critizise patriarchy theory without it devolving to sword fighting a fart…
/r/MensRights13/07/14 05:22 PM
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A place where MRA's can voice their concerns and be listened to by feminists instead of attacked. That's not progress?
/r/MensRights13/07/14 05:17 PM
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I don't understand your logic. Can you explain?
/r/MensRights13/07/14 05:16 PM
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I don't understand. Why would it be seen as an insult to call a rapist a rapist?
/r/MensRights13/07/14 01:47 PM
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Interesting. When was this? Also is there any chance you were banned for something else such as breaking some rule or what not? Did they specify the reason?
/r/MensRights13/07/14 01:09 PM
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Yes I do understand. I could spend half an hour digging through my post history to find the occasion but.. ugh.. :p Just keep it in the back of your head I guess until you come upon further evidence either way.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 12:52 PM
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I don't. But I used this argument in another subreddit, I believe it was CMV, and I got destroyed by some people who seemed very well sourced. I think it's important we stay on the moral high ground and root out myths in our own ideology lest we become like feminism.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 12:44 PM
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This gets thrown around a lot but apparently it's untrue for america (could be true for other countries).
/r/MensRights13/07/14 11:11 AM
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Exactly why I could give a shit less about women's "rights" issues. Women don't deserve rights, who cares about them. Careful. I took a peek in AMR and realised they are completely immune to both context and sarcasm. You're gonna get quoted and they're gonna masturbate to it and hiss about the evil misogynist mra. And then the voodoo.. oh god the voodoo with the evil shitlord doll. Watch it man..
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:50 PM
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Something which they keep claiming is on their agenda. I guess you missed that part.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:41 PM
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And the ones (100%) who lose a ton of potential for sexual pleasure. But since male sexuality is dirty and evil I guess that might not count.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:36 PM
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Damn... my deepest sympathies. Glad you're ok now.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:12 AM
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Yeah because mental problems are a made up thing. At least when it concerns white men.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:03 AM
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Ok so basically it can all be summed up into a single point: Indoctrinate your children with feminist dogma from a young age. This might be the lowest I've ever seen feminism go. It's looking more and more like a religion. First they started taking offense from any and all criticism and now they want to indoctrinate children. Exactly how religions tend to work.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 07:59 AM
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Just wait till AMR link this comment and complain over the rampant homophobia on mensrights.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 07:16 AM
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Because redditors.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:11 PM
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You should probably fix the spelling on "homocide".
/r/MensRights12/06/14 04:11 PM
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Yeah but with there being such little porn for women in the first place I don't think it's indicative of much.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 01:06 PM
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Please educate yourself on academic feminism.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 03:47 AM
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Patriarchy is a word that existed before feminism. Patriarchy theory on the other hand is the foundation of academic feminism.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 03:37 AM
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Look up patriarchy theory. If you don't even know what feminism is you probably shouldn't be promoting it.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 03:01 AM
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No they don't. Great argument. You got me there. I especially love the added flair of telling me to chill THE FUCK OUT when I'm perfectly calm and you seem a bit worked up :)
/r/MensRights10/06/14 02:05 AM
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Except feminism just so happens to have the denial of male issues as a core tenet of their ideology?
/r/MensRights10/06/14 01:08 AM
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I really don't think peoples names should be printed until they have been convicted. But anyway, amazing that they used the word rape. A world first perhaps?
/r/MensRights10/06/14 12:18 AM
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So basically.. only misandry is acceptable, anything else is misogyny. Seems feminism has slid the scale a bit off center.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:41 PM
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Um.. no.. I have no idea how you could infer that from what I wrote. You seem like a very emotional person. I've never mentioned the friendzone and I'm not even fat. You're strawmanning so hard you're gonna give yourself a heart attack.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:37 PM
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Wow. I'm a god damn idiot because I don't have the same experiences in life as you. Woke up on the wrong side today?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:28 PM
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Um... yes? Do I need the special edition masculist goggles to see it? He is specifically saying the opposite of what you say he is saying.....
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:12 PM
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Yes this is a real question. Link me to a comment that holds the view that we should tear down women's rights rather than help men's rights, because I'm not sure I've ever seen such a thing.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 05:41 PM
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Calling us "misters" get's you a "Mrs" in return.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 05:25 PM
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I see you aren't replying any more and conveniently never responded to most of my post. Congrats on your intellectual integrity, Mrs.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 05:07 PM
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Where did you see someone complaining about women getting help? I saw people complaining that men don't and comparing it to how women do. The fact that you read that and somehow assumed we are looking to "tear down support for women" shows your incredible victim complex and your prejudiced view of the men's rights movement.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 05:00 PM
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No. I conceded my point. But I guess you were too busy working yourself up you failed to notice that.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:41 PM
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Ok, I've never seen this but judging by the amount of responses to the contrary this must be something I've missed?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:22 PM
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You'll also know the middle B in BBW stands for beautiful, there's no category for big, ugly women, because it's catering to male standards of female beauty still. Right, which means that men can commonly associate fat women with beauty. I've just never seen the opposite. You make a good point that porn is mostly aimed at men and thus there hasn't been a chance for a "BBM" term to be invented. But this doesn't prove that there are a significant amount of women who like fat men. We are left stand…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:22 PM
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I know you touched upon gender role (I controlled+F) but I wonder if you made the link between gender roles and why there is a higher percentage of males in the working class and women in the middleclass? Ocht I'll read it sometime :) Not sure what you're getting at to be honest.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:14 PM
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I don't. But I've just never seen a woman express delight over fat male bodies ever and there's no term for it (such as BBW). Meanwhile "BBW-culture" is pretty widespread.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:35 PM
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Yep.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:33 PM
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Wow that is a great point.. and sickening to hear...
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:31 PM
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I dunno it's just bad compared to other sex toys. Doesn't feel very good. Have you tried anything else? I mean, I'm not judging.. if you like it, have fun! But don't miss out on other stuff that's out there just because the fleshlight gets all the spotlight.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:30 PM
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Well the rest of the text explains why we disagree with patriarchy theory (even under its proper definition). Read it at some point if you get our of your phase :)
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:28 PM
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You might find this to be an interesting read. Feel free to respond to that post if you want. I am not afraid of criticism and mature debate, or even changing my mind. Also just FYI I'm not the person you were responding to first so you should probably reply to him.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:21 PM
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Not in any numbers.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:02 PM
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It's actually surprisingly good. Infinitely better than fleshlight (which is beyond terrible, I don't know how it got the reputation as the sex toy). But no. Nothing you're gonna do many times. That would be a very expensive habit.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:00 PM
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The thing that gets me is the hypocrisy. #notallmen is apparently wrong because #yesallwomen. But wait..! Doesn't that mean that #notallfeminists is wrong because #yesallmen? They should probably make up their mind on this. It's either/or.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:57 PM
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Damn that's a productive post. If you disagree with something you should probably say why and how.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:55 PM
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Yeah rampant is a very strong word. I would use that word if their retarded 1 in 4 figure was true, but not in reality.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:49 PM
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I guess that's a good silencing tactic. Drown out the original voices of #yesallcats with your own bullshit.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:47 PM
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You just missed the fact that societal beauty standards for women promote under eating and societal beauty standards for men promote muscle growth. Therefore probably most anorectic's and bulimic's are women and most people who use steroids are men.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:44 PM
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There's lots of men who find bigger women sexy. Are there any women anywhere ever who have a fat man fetish?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:41 PM
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They are just as capable because they are STRONG and POWERFUL!!! However they would never do such a thing because they are angels and don't suffer from "toxic masculinity". :)
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:44 AM
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Um, yes but they are leaving out 100% of the context to make it sound like he holds this position because he thinks rape is dandy and rapists should go free.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:41 AM
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Didn't you hear? Evil MRA's (stands for Misogyny & Rape Advocates, I think) are coming to take all the women's rights away. Apparently they want to remove the women's right to vote and make it legal to rape and beat women. That's what I heard anyway.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 09:10 PM
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I think it's pretty obvious you didn't read the whole post as you are mostly repeating things i already wrote.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 10:38 AM
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Poor kid was probably a lot more bothered by his mum acting like a loon than by being yelled at by some stranger.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 09:47 PM
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Right but that wasn't the thing he was challenging. And I don't think anybody takes "men are more often in positions of power" to mean that most men are in positions of power.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 09:30 PM
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My sentence: men are more often in positions of power in the political and corporate worlds His reply: If you define power as having a lot of responsibility, then that is possibly true. If you define power as having the ability to control things, then this is false. Men are demonstrably more often in leadership positions in the political and corporate worlds. For his statement to be true (men are not more often in positions of power) then being in a leadership position must entail no ability to …
/r/MensRights07/06/14 08:08 PM
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If you define power as having a lot of responsibility, then that is possibly true. If you define power as having the ability to control things, then this is false. This was the original sentence I responded to. I think you are completely off track to be honest. The person who wrote the above is essentially saying that having a position of power in the political and corporate worlds gives you no control, only responsibility. This is what we are arguing. Not whether or not there are other forms of…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:37 PM
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Is this how you speak to women?! Haha. Yeah because women should be spoken to differently than men.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:23 PM
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Yes I've read that one and it doesn't really have any relevance on the original point.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:17 PM
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How do you explain that different people in power do different things then? You're basically saying there is no such thing as power in this universe. I have a hard time taking this stance seriously to be honest.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:11 PM
3

Right but you're not saying that every person in every position of power has only 1 viable option are you?
/r/MensRights07/06/14 07:06 PM
2

I think the subtle difference is that they claim men hold power, but people (both men and women) are giving them that power by adhering to the values of "patriarchy". Of course this goes against their idea that men in power is what perpetuates the patriarchy. The whole concept is obviously not the most coherent and logical thing. I'm just saying how they see patriarchy theory, not saying it's not full of shit.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 06:52 PM
3

"being in a position of power doesn't give you more ability to change things" I think it's more subtle than that. He referred specifically to responsibility granting power, and yes if one has enough responsibilities failure to perform them can have a great impact (this can be seen as a form of power), however, this does not mean that the one with said responsibility can reasonably exorcise said power (there will be consequences). Having drawbacks to having power doesn't somehow diminish the fact…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 06:33 PM
4

If you define power as having a lot of responsibility, then that is possibly true. If you define power as having the ability to control things, then this is false. Are you really saying that being in a position of power doesn't give you more ability to change things? Yes many things are decided by the societal zeitgeist, at the very least which options are available. But as the person in power you definitely have a lot more control than a random other person in the given domain. Therefore it obv…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 03:13 PM
0

You will have to ask a feminist about these things. I have no idea.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 03:01 PM
1

The word patriarchy meant something before feminist theory came about. This wikipedia entry is on the word in general, not the feminist theory (it has a tiny section on feminist theory if you scroll down).
/r/MensRights07/06/14 03:00 PM
1

I didn't claim it makes sense I'm just describing the theory. As for the parts you quoted, men are seen as having all the power, but patriarchy is still perpetuated by "everyone". How they still come to the conclusion that the concentration of men in leadership is what drives patriarchy (as well as "everyone" promoting it) I don't know. Feminists were never known for their logical thinking. Personally I suspect the male power thing is there just so they can pull out their old card "discriminatio…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 02:59 PM
3

You are forgetting that those of us who still have a foreskin can easily test both with and without by pulling it back or not. The difference is huge.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 05:38 PM
11

I've never heard any "serious" feminist say this. I'm very curious if this is actually part of any kind of official feminist theory, or if this was just your average radfem loon making shit up.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 04:47 PM
0

Patriarchy isn't about blaming men. It's wrong and it's bad for other reasons (it dismisses male issues). But basically patriarchy is the idea that both men and women hold the value that masculinity is better than femininity. So it's not saying men are the source of all evil (feminists may still say this :), that's just not what patriarchy means). I think it's important if we want to be taken seriously that if we are going to criticize feminism we must understand what it is we are criticizing. N…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 10:26 AM
3

"There is sexism against women and sexism against men. But the sexism against men is actually just caused by the men being so [repeats all sexist notions about men]." Bravo... No really just wow. Fucking wow.
/r/MensRights06/06/14 01:36 AM
2

Wasn't able to tick anything on that page.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 11:47 AM
395

You had the audacity to say that men are capable of having problems. This is the scariest thing a feminist can hear. Chills them right to the bone.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 04:52 PM
27

"Now sit down and shut up and stop derailing."
/r/MensRights04/06/14 04:51 PM
4

IMO outright activism is not nearly as important as discussion and spreading awareness right now. We are never going to have the changes we need until a lot more people are aware of the MRM perspective. Reddit is the perfect platform for this. Media publicity I'm all for but looking at how that looks right now (ie pure slander and lies, 100% ignorance) I could do without.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:49 PM
7

Well then again AVFM isn't liked by most of the MRM community.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:35 PM
-1

didn't say they did. I thought this: It's not a thing meant as much. Anyway the thing you mentioned with being seen as competent and taken seriously is the one thing I can think of right now. There's probably a few more minor ones but no, we are not bathing in privilege.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 05:20 PM
1

Yeah internet-memes are held to such high regard right? Everybody loves those and would like them all over every subreddit! All you're doing is ridiculing a person with quotes that don't even have anything to do with her. This does not give a good vibe from this movement. Makes us look as hysterical and unintellectual as the radfems. Anyway, from the sidebar: No advice animals, rage comics, or other low-effort image posts. Mods may remove these at their discretion.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 04:20 PM
1

I'm assuming she didn't say these things so... what's the point? It's just stupid to be honest.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 04:00 PM
-1

There are privileges for being a man. There are also privileges for being a woman. They don't exclude each other.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:52 PM
75

Tumbler feminists at least claim to be feminists. TRP is generally opposed to the MRM.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:57 PM
4

... You sound like an actual misogynist. Haven't seen that in a long time. Edit: Downvotes why? Did any of you actually read what he wrote? It gives us a reason to be prejudiced against all women Enjoys "being given a reason to be prejudiced against all women"... and we don't have to do anything in order for women to be hurt because of the actions of Feminists. Implying the suffering of women is a good thing and "we don't even have to do it ourselves." Hello?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:53 PM
1

honey I don't think a passive aggressive tone is going to accomplish anything.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 06:12 PM
1

Too bad they won't get it, or understand to be ashamed.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 06:10 PM
3

I can imagine them responding "you are such a lost cause and so far away from reality with your mens rights brainwashing that I see no hope to be able to convey the truth to you". Of course with less words and more insults. The obvious reply to that would be that if they can fathom such a reality as they describe, what exactly tells them it's not the other way around, that they have a hopeless feminist indoctrination. It's just that they would not be able to even comprehend this argument (becaus…
/r/MensRights01/06/14 06:03 PM
15

Where in the fuck does 1 in 3 or 4 come from IIRC it's from defining any instance of drunk sex as rape (no matter level of inebriation or if both were drunk).
/r/MensRights01/06/14 04:51 PM
2

I don't know what kind of world whoever made that is living in but only a handful of those are even close to accurate. Fat girls seen as desperate? What? That doesn't even make sense and I've never seen that sentiment anywhere in my whole life. Victim blaming not happening for men? HAHA! Ahh.. I'm not even.. ahahaha...
/r/MensRights30/05/14 04:12 PM
210

It's common knowledge on this subreddit that you get banned if you try to post on most feminist subreddits (I think? or maybe it was just /r/feminism) as an MRA. Without fail. I somehow just assumed you feminists knew too. So people in there are actually wondering where all the MRA's are and why we refuse to come to them and talk?
/r/MensRights29/05/14 05:08 PM
1

I resist the idea of "patriarchy" as misleading and poisonous—it's a way of ordering society and history that predisposes the results we're going to obtain from studying it. In other words, it creates patterns that are not there. Additionally, it is nearly impossible to see the world from another lens once engrained with the patriarchy dogma. I've never seen it described like this but it is spot on. A good example of this is how feminists will often say that any disadvantage men have is only a s…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 03:18 PM
1

You must be joking... do you realise how many mental disorders there are. "Mental disorder" is not one thing. Jesus fucking christ...
/r/MensRights29/05/14 01:25 AM
4

Well.. I honestly don't even know where to start. You should try to learn more about this. You sound incredibly ignorant (no offense, just being frank). There is not a single symptom that exist in every single mental illness, least of all violent outbursts. And autism is not even a mental illness, it's a developmental disorder.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 11:07 PM
1

Are you trolling?
/r/MensRights28/05/14 10:18 PM
5

No.. they are not. That is misinformation (which there is much of concerning autism spectrum disorders).
/r/MensRights28/05/14 07:06 PM
0

The purpose of democracy isn't to get amazing politicians into office. It's just to avoid outright tyrrany. Sadly it's the best we've got.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 10:53 AM
6

I'm not seenloitering but I'll try to answer your question anyway. The big reason feminism and the MRM are in opposition as seen from the MRM side is patriarchy theory. Under patriarchy theory femininity is almost always disadvantaged in society compared to masculinity, making men inherently privileged. We in the MRM simply don't agree with this. We believe sexism is a complex and multifaceted issue where men and women have many individual issues where they are privileged and disadvantaged. Femi…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 07:46 AM
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Especially as a response to the fact that twice as many men than women were killed. Really fucking disgusting. Men don't really count in her world, obviously.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 10:45 PM
3

Oh. I interpreted it as "an uncommon type of MRA". Sorry :)
/r/MensRights25/05/14 12:56 AM
3

Ok I have no idea what you are saying. What exactly are the numbers in the chart?
/r/MensRights24/05/14 10:48 PM
20

So out of our 91 098 users, 198 also subscribe to TRP? Anyway the MRM and TRP have incompatible goals. TRP seeks to exploit gender roles while the MRM tries to dismantle them.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 10:38 PM
7

Yes I assume that is the reason they investigated this user. Doesn't sound one bit unlikely. And it wasn't really a long list of abuses anyway.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 10:32 PM
3

I don't see where he said that. Maybe you misinterpreted it?
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:58 PM
36

TRP isn't any kind of MRA.
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:05 PM
5

How do you know they knew it before that thread?
/r/MensRights24/05/14 08:03 PM
1

You might have made a difference, albeit small. Good on you for being brave and standing up for men!
/r/MensRights23/05/14 05:38 PM
2

Every little boy thinks guns are cool. I probably drew hundreds of guns during my childhood. Didn't turn into a psychopath or serial killer (shockingly!).
/r/MensRights23/05/14 05:33 PM
0

Yeah it's not perfect but jesus christ. At least she is not a raving lunatic and better than most people. And yes it doesnt say physically weaker but if you read the sentences following that it's obvious that's what she meant.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 12:44 PM
8

Pretty sure she means physically weaker, if you read the whole thing...
/r/MensRights22/05/14 09:44 AM
3

But it's not even an example.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 09:25 PM
18

Canada gang violence is mainly groups of ducks right?
/r/MensRights17/05/14 01:35 PM
165

Respect Our White Passengers Please refrain from the following: Mugging Assaulting Threatening Unwanted conversation Asking white people where they're "from"
/r/MensRights17/05/14 01:32 PM
14

"Um.. Mr bus driver. I just thought I'd notify you that I was unable to refrain from harassing another passenger."
/r/MensRights17/05/14 01:30 PM
1

Ok, never saw that so it can't be too common. But sure ban those too.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 01:29 PM
1

Never saw people doing things like these in subs where such things are banned. I think you are reaching.
/r/MensRights12/05/14 07:45 AM
5

Except, you know, banning those types of posts. That's a pretty easy solution.
/r/MensRights11/05/14 10:27 AM
2

tools->options->privacy->uncheck "remember form and search history"
/r/MensRights05/05/14 01:45 PM
2

That's weird because I've turned it off in my browser.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 12:56 PM
2

The funny thing is half of them don't get it and take it seriously. Can't make that shit up.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:51 AM
4

That's your browser and you can disable it. At least in firefox.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:42 AM
4

Funny that he is somehow able to tell the gender of people online. He must have magic powers.
/r/MensRights29/04/14 11:50 PM
5

It's just gay all the way down.
/r/MensRights27/04/14 04:52 PM
1

No I'M never wrong.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 08:37 AM
1

They are equally important. I'm not arguing that. I'm just arguing from experience how organisations tend to be ran.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 08:45 PM
-1

I think informing your personnel of current policy usually has a far higher priority than updating posters.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 07:26 PM
-2

I don't know why you'd assume the drivers are not taught the rules of their job.
/r/MensRights13/04/14 07:15 PM
2

That's great. Link it as much as you want :)
/r/MensRights12/04/14 09:40 PM
1

They did a study where they showed that people who were low on "benevolent sexism" were seen as sexist. I think it was linked here a few times.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 07:45 PM
6

Wow. Welcome to the internet where we all get random death threats from strangers every day. Yet when it happens to a feminist it's somehow a real threat and somehow it was an MRA who did it. Get real and get over yourself. Show us something where an actual MRA organisation did something in real life please.
/r/MensRights12/04/14 01:32 PM
5

I don't see what's wrong with being "super-rational" or "super grown up"?
/r/MensRights08/04/14 10:50 AM
19

Most sexist norms strike against both genders in different ways, resulting in many different types of discrimination or prejudice. The way I see it feminism has focused entirely on the way these norms affect women and actively oppose the fact that they affect men too. The MRM exists to bring light to the male side of these same coins.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 11:05 AM
10

That's a pretty huge difference.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 11:12 AM
3

And yet over a long timespan they tend to fail, as we are seeing right now in the world. Some memes with good defense mechanisms (threat of hell etc. etc.) can stick around for a good while. But in the long run reason tends to win out.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 12:49 AM
4

Yep. Over time I believe shitty ideas will weed themselves out in the marketplace of ideas. Unless, of course, you hide them under the rug and let them fester unchallenged.
/r/MensRights29/03/14 06:18 PM
7

It is and it isn't. Think of it as trying to run Windows 7 on a 486 while everyone else is using Windows 3.11. If you had ten times the brain power it would probably rock. But as it stands, you sacrifice a lot and things are generally a bit of a mess.
/r/MensRights28/03/14 07:45 PM
4

Affair Or my favourite: Relationship
/r/MensRights25/03/14 10:23 PM
5

I think that's hilarious. She should go to afghanistan and tell the girls who aren't allowed to go to school about her problems. Maybe they can help.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 10:04 PM
1

He is talking about chik-fil-a I believe.
/r/MensRights25/03/14 09:46 PM
1

Right... you obviously don't even know what politically correct means. Nobody is going to accuse you of political incorrectness because you swear. I'm thinking you are probably just trolling by now so if you have nothing sensible to add I won't bother replying.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 05:06 PM
1

Being PC has nothing to do with how you present your opinions, only which ones you present. I think you are confused.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 04:30 PM
1

I don't see what this has to do with my response to danpilon to be honest.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 11:04 AM
2

Feel free to point out where i said or implied such a thing, cause i didn't. Being mature, open minded and non-toxic has a value on its own. It doesn't have to lead to some secondary value such as being right to be a worthwhile pursuit.
/r/MensRights20/03/14 09:56 AM
1

Didn't say we did.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:53 PM
9

Yeah god forbid people make an effort to be decent and logical people. Let's succumb to the same traps as feminism and become a toxic and close minded movement just to make sure we don't inhibit individual thought.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:24 PM
0

The thing is that a person who is not found guilty in a trial is not necessarily innocent, there is only insufficient evidence to say that they are guilty. Just as every alleged rapist that is not convicted does not mean it is necessarily a false accusation. Thus the only two cases that are conclusive is when it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is either a rapist or a false accuser. Everything else should be labelled inconclusive.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 10:21 PM
2

We need to teach our boys not to rape. See they start so early it's obviously natural for them...
/r/MensRights19/03/14 08:26 AM
2

I think it's obvious he wasn't defending it. I don't know why everyone is jumping on him.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 08:23 AM
2

I think you completely misunderstood his post. Take a deep breath and read it again.
/r/MensRights19/03/14 08:22 AM
1

Please ignore this troll he registered a few days ago and have been showing up in every other thread since then spreading dirt. He is either a false flag from SRS or a manhood academy twat.
/r/MensRights11/03/14 05:51 PM
6

I was under the impression that brigading was against the rules of reddit and subreddits can be closed over it?
/r/MensRights11/03/14 10:02 AM
11

Who are you to say that Afghani women need you or anyone else to speak for them? I think you're being ridiculous now. Sometimes it's very hard to speak for yourself when you live in a system where you are powerless. There is nothing wrong with needing help and the notion that it's racist to intervene in a terrible society like the taliban is just silly. Yeah we could wait for natural progression to (maybe) sort the situation out over the next 300 years. Or we could help now... I normally like yo…
/r/MensRights08/03/14 08:00 PM
7

TIL natural un-mutilated body parts are "alien".
/r/MensRights02/03/14 10:07 AM
1

Haha.. oh god this is so funny. Can you actually imagine their worldview? They think men are some kind of evil caricatures going around trying to "intimidate" people with their evil gaze. Just wow...!
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:29 AM
10

I would rather call such a thing sexual harassment or perhaps even sexual abuse. But psychological rape is just an outright silly word...
/r/MensRights01/03/14 01:15 AM
1

Like I said I don't really have an opinion on the issue I was talking about that specific argument. I also didn't claim there was only a minority, I asked why he uses an argument that rests on there being a majority and where and if he gained the knowledge that there was such a majority.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 01:11 PM
1

Right but why would we adapt a word as the "official definition" if only a minority of the affected wish for it. That makes no sense.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 12:03 PM
7

Yes and for now I would say sadly we have to play ball. You could be an idealist and say we shouldn't have to. But let's be realists. Women who fight for the MRM will be able to give legitimacy to the movement in a way men just can't in this climate. Yes this is a terrible state of affairs and one of the things our movement is fighting against, but for now I think it would be stupid to ignore it.
/r/MensRights28/02/14 09:42 AM
2

Not agreeing or disagreeing on the basic issue but just wondering how you know (or think you know) that a majority of rape victims want to be called survivors? I would guess that most who use the word survivor about themselves don't do it as a conscious choice but rather because that's the term they've heard used. But most importantly I have no idea how many actually call themselves survivors. Do you?
/r/MensRights28/02/14 09:38 AM
1

You're right, my conclusion was overly simplistic. Thanks for your reply. The article was still a disastrous piece of crap as they merely stated this theory as a possible cause without describing anything about the actual research that went into that. But I guess that is MSM for you.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 01:40 PM
6

Right how obvious is it that fat girls not being taller disproves this? How come they didn't think about this? What the fuck I don't even...
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:26 AM
1

Ok :) Keep being angry, you're very good at it. I bet you've had tons of practice.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 01:30 AM
1

I'm toxic? Who's the one who has been vomiting insults since his first comment? Project much? :) Have a nice life. Who am I kidding you're gonna have a terrible angry life, and perhaps you deserve it.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 01:24 AM
1

It's a construct, comprised of predispositions, experiences, preferences and just plain thoughts. These can be influenced slightly, but everyone has one, and sometimes they don't match what sex they have. It's actually you who are the bigot for denying a person of a certain sex to express a certain form of behavioural tendencies. My whole point is that they don't have to match. The whole concept of gender is a retarded arbitrary construct based on traditional gender roles. You are saying that in…
/r/MensRights24/02/14 01:12 AM
1

All this time you haven't been communicating with a person. You have been communicating with a construct in your head, loosely based on some text that an actual person wrote, but mostly shaped by your expectations and insecurities. I've seen that before, really annoying thing. You should try a therapist. Basically you are ignoring 99% of what I say and filling it in with what you think a "transphobic bigoted asshole" would say.
/r/MensRights23/02/14 09:18 PM
1

What exactly is bigoted about my views?
/r/MensRights23/02/14 09:00 PM
1

It's not even a matter of science, it's a matter of semantics. Male and female are words. Words have definitions. The definition for male and female is xx and xy. Check every dictionary ever. Really, go do it. Right now. I'll wait. Your only problem is that you think sex means a lot more than it does. You think a person with xx or xy have to fit in to a certain mold, and since you don't fit in that mold you think you have to call yourself something else. Well here's news for you. You are allowed…
/r/MensRights23/02/14 08:54 PM
1

Seeing as xx is the definition of a female (check a dictionary), an xx male is not possible. I have absolutely nothing against people who want to change their body, or whose mind does not match their body according to traditional gender roles, I just don't call them something they are not because that just supports gender normatism. In short, you can do anything you want, other than lying about your genetic makeup. This is only a problem to you because you place irrational weight on said makeup.
/r/MensRights23/02/14 08:49 PM
1

Right, which is why sex isn't about what you identify with. Anyone can, and is allowed, to identify with anything. It's simply about a biological categorization based on genetic makeup.
/r/MensRights23/02/14 08:52 AM
1

But what is it she is self identifying with? It's the male gender role obviously. It's not that she self identifies with having a Y chromosome since she doesn't.
/r/MensRights23/02/14 08:11 AM
1

Like I said I think it's simply redundant to redefine a persons sex because they display characteristics that are traditionally seen as the other sexes gender role. I think it reinforces gender roles, as if a man is not allowed to be feminine, he must first turn into a female, and vice versa.
/r/MensRights23/02/14 07:59 AM
5

Come on...
/r/MensRights22/02/14 10:58 PM
4

Reality always has exceptions and complications. But we still have to define our words in a way that does not require 1800 peer reviewed papers, 400 philosophical essays and where the definition is not 60 pages long. What would we call a double X born with a penis? Probably "a woman with a genitalial mutation" or something. At the end of the day it doesn't much matter. We are all just people.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 03:36 PM
0

People surgically remove their ovaries? Really? What is the reason for doing that? I am genuinely curious. Anyway it's irrelevant, the chromosomes will always stay the same. I somehow knew I shouldn't have written ovaries, since I don't think it matters what specific body parts you cut out of yourself, but it made the sentence flow better.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 03:12 PM
3

It's just that the whole concept of gender is bullshit. It's trying to take an open ended infinite spectrum of personality types and fit it into a binary dichotomy, and to make things worse it borrows the words from biological sex to describe this dichotomy. Therefore when I say man I will always mean a person with a Y chromosome. Other factors don't really matter because both men and women come in every shape and form. If you are a woman who don't like your female body and who have a more tradi…
/r/MensRights22/02/14 02:50 PM
14

Man and woman are biological concepts. You can say you are masculine or feminine but that is a different thing. Scientifically a male is a person with a Y chromosome, not a state of mind.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 02:10 PM
2

Not really. What you consider your gender identity to be (which is an altogether fluid concept) doesn't make you a man or woman.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 01:22 PM
4

Real men have a Y chromosome. That's about it.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 11:22 AM
-5

Real wo/men know not to try to follow stupid lists to become what someone else's ideals are. And there you are, committing the same fallacy they are. Some wo/men follow stupid lists, they are still real wo/men. Ok, maybe I'm being anal and your point wasn't to be perfectly logical but rather make a ploint. Still, just sayin :)
/r/MensRights22/02/14 11:21 AM
10

contradict* You're welcome!
/r/MensRights22/02/14 09:42 AM
2

Come on it's below our dignity to even care about something like this. This is just an example of a completely retarded individual who wrote a pile of incoherent bullshit. I mean seriously? Leaving her home and family? I guess women tend to live with their parents until they get married? What century is this person living in? Not even feminists think these things. It's just a lone nutcase. Drop it.
/r/MensRights22/02/14 09:38 AM
3

The mandatory sarcastic comment in every thread is getting old. Let's not become as toxic as the feminists.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 11:39 AM
5

Anti-intellectual macho guys like you who are so afraid of stepping outside their gender role make me embarrassed to be a man.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 10:26 AM
9

I think the most likely scenario is that this person only read the headline and not the article and then wrote men because in the public consciousness a child molester is a man.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 07:16 PM
5

Perhaps try reading the article linked and not just read the screenshot?
/r/MensRights15/02/14 06:18 PM
5

Actually that was a terrible post. You made a claim in the title which you did not back up or explain (even if it was true) and which was not sufficiently explained by merely following the link. And it was a pretty damn irrelevant post to begin with.
/r/MensRights15/02/14 11:39 AM
1

As the vast majority of assault victims in real life are female and the vast majority of assailants are male, Umm... are they allowed to just lie and pull bogus facts out of their ass? What the fuck the guardian?
/r/MensRights14/02/14 10:08 AM
1

Then be the change you want to see. The more people are exposed to this "radical" notion the less unpopular it will be. Also it's probably heavily influenced by location and/or social circles. Where I live (in Sweden) this kind of thinking is much more rare and I've frankly never seen a man be ostracised for wanting to be an active father. I'm not saying leave the country but maybe moving to a more progressive area would help.
/r/MensRights13/02/14 10:04 AM
1

I KNOW, this isn't a normal "male" trait. We don't nurture, we don't coddle, we don't change diapers and coo and dress children. Sure we do. This is 2014 and you should not be letting traditional gender roles define you. A mother has no more right to be with the children than you do. Women who think otherwise are probably not worth dealing with. There is a word for such attitudes; it's called sexism.
/r/MensRights13/02/14 09:34 AM
6

You should probably not gauge the entire MRM by a single low profile thread with a handful of replies. I've been subscribed here for over 2 years and such views are very very uncommon.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 06:26 PM
2

Because apparently over time we bring our memories in line with the dominant narrative, in this case being that women do not rape. That's what she says anyway. I would love a source on that.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 04:57 PM
12

Your assumption that MRA's don't think women face discrimination is simply wrong. Hang out in this subreddit for a while and you'll see that.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 04:34 PM
0

You have a fun way of making no arguments whatsoever. Have fun with your life.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 09:21 PM
0

I am just calling a pig a pig. Don't pretend I'm the bad guy here as you had an extremely hostile tone long before I lost my patience with you.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 09:19 PM
0

It's not your disagreement that is the problem. It's your aggressive confrontational nature and your failure to make any kind of sense. Basically you argue like a radfem and we don't need people like you in this movement.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 09:14 PM
0

Nor did I claim my source was credible. You're being needlessly confrontational. Grow up please.
/r/MensRights09/02/14 09:08 PM
0

And yet you used kff.org?
/r/MensRights09/02/14 10:40 AM
0

Well I read it from an MRA source not from some feminist site. Also a quick googling gave me this. Seems there is a lot of conflicting information here. But we should seek the truth and not recoil from information that does not support the notion that men are victims. That's how feminism works and I know we are better than that. Not accusing you of that by the way just saying we need to stay objective especially if we find an area with conflicting information. It might be tempting in cases like …
/r/MensRights08/02/14 07:03 PM
1

My one criticism is that she would always agree with the people asking questions (bar the feminists), even if they said really stupid things. For example the guy talking about calendars at work or the guy rambling incoherently about how there won't be any room for men in the workplace soon because scary women everywhere. Other than that she was rockin as usual.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 01:42 PM
2

I read that heart disease kills more women but only because women live much longer over all. Men die earlier of heart disease.
/r/MensRights08/02/14 01:18 PM
11

Surely gender norms and culture is part of it. The problem is when people claim that's all of it and men and women are born as blank slates.
/r/MensRights07/02/14 10:02 PM
3

Did that subreddit that was going to archive ridiculous bans from /r/feminism ever take off?
/r/MensRights06/02/14 01:10 AM
1

Well someone got told!
/r/MensRights21/01/14 02:17 PM
2

It would be interesting to see how people would react to an MRM version of sarkesians kickstarter. I bet you the "terrible threats and verbal abuse" or what not would be tenfold.
/r/MensRights20/01/14 12:42 PM
3

So if it was dominated by rich black women things would somehow be better?
/r/MensRights31/12/13 02:55 PM
2

Great source. Vague statement by random guy that it is so. Ok...!
/r/MensRights23/12/13 08:57 PM
-1

So because the sidebar isn't censored we are a hate group. Gotcha. If the members of the group are doing any actual, you know, hating, that's just kind of irrelevant right?
/r/MensRights19/12/13 08:21 PM
3

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of those 400 came from 4-chan. Looking at the 4-chan thread and comparing it to the MRM thread it is obvious. I can't even find a single post in the MRM thread saying a person filed a report, but maybe they have been deleted or something.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 07:30 PM
-2

And if you actually had spent any time in this sub you would also know that AVfM is not well liked, sidebar or not (the sidebar basically holds any relevant sites, it doesn't judge them this way or that).
/r/MensRights19/12/13 07:21 PM
1

To our discussion here and now. Don't twist my words. How can you stand being so intellectually dishonest?
/r/MensRights19/12/13 07:19 PM
1

Linking to that site is exactly 100% meaningless in the context of our discussion. But whatever you can do to avert attention away from the fact that you are unable to give a real response right?
/r/MensRights19/12/13 06:18 PM
-4

If you want to count AVfM then I'll count Jezebel. Does that make us even? Wow, the post you linked is 50% strawmanning and 50% bullshit, far from eloquent. Let me guess, you skimmed through that and let it dictate your perception of the MRM since you already "knew" we were misogynist pigs.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:48 PM
1

And you know the art of replying without saying anything. Good job on being a waste of space on the internet.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:42 PM
1

If you cram enough strawmen into the text box maybe you will win the internet somehow?! :D
/r/MensRights19/12/13 02:13 AM
-13

conducting a denial of service attack on a rape reporting form. We are? 4 chan is and maybe a handful of people here jumped on that train. That certainly does not mean that "the MRM is performing a DDOS". Also go right ahead and form your entire view of a movement by a single thread. That's so very intellectual of you.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 02:10 AM
6

I didn't say it was peachy. I said read before you react since what people are talking about in this thread is completely different than reality. It's obvious nobody read it.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 10:23 PM
20

Guys read the thing before you react. No one is going to a hearing. The information will be used to identify and address troubling trends. If a perpetrator is named, a member of the Dean of Students Office will meet with that person to share that the person was named in an anonymous report, review the Sexual Misconduct Policy, and inform the person that if the allegations are true, the behavior needs to cease immediately. Information shared in this form alone will not result in anyone going thro…
/r/MensRights17/12/13 03:58 PM
21

They ran out of things to bicker about so long ago that their art of making things up have become bizarrely creative.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 04:32 PM
1

I think it does. You're going to have to phrase the question better then.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 06:26 PM
2

Because believe it or not my head is full of things. Some I find important and others not.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 06:23 PM
2

I usually don't act upon things I don't find important...
/r/MensRights09/12/13 06:11 PM
2

The mob is great when it's about things you care far too little about to spend time forming an opinion of your own. Obviously before you act on such information in a meaningful way you should verify it yourself first.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 06:09 PM
0

I understand perfectly well and for that reason I don't hold it as some kind of ultimate truth that Paul Elam is an asshat. But if you spent your life verifying the truth of the common wisdom concerning every person out there you'd never get anything done. I think in 8 out of 10 cases* the "mob" will be right. Also, in this case I've seen some of his writing in person and yes he seemed like an asshat to me. *76% of all online statistics are made up.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 05:59 PM
0

Yeah it's pretty bad. Maybe you have a different understanding of the word than I do.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 02:10 AM
5

It doesn't. But if a lot of people are talking shit about the same person it probably means they are on to something.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 02:09 AM
2

And you don't see that 95% of the people turned off are people already looking for an out for one reason or another. Citation needed. Men's Rights Activism is unpopular. Get used to it. It will - by default - be painted as misogyny, no matter what you do. Get used to it. So your solution is rather than be better than our enemies we're gonna turn into a mirror image of them because fuck it our reputation has already been smeared? Sounds like the worst idea ever. The good thing with getting attack…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 12:26 AM
4

Yeah I would say that's likely. If he was amazing I'm sure I would have heard about that too. Alas, no such thing. If there's smoke, there is usually a fire etc.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 12:14 AM
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Creating visibility when it's of the bad kind and only fuels the notion that MRA's are "misogynistic whiners" is not a good thing. Maybe you'll spread some rings in the short term but in the long term you're giving a great target for radfems to point at and say "see, I told you MRA's were "like that" ". You may see some people joining up and think it's a great success. What you don't see are all the people you turn off. People who might have been interested who now might never have anything to d…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 12:12 AM
4

Please explain how that is relevant in the slightest.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 11:24 PM
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As you might expect, since I don't like them, I don't go there a lot. So I don't have a ton of meat. But what made me dislike them to begin with was how their tone was very confrontational and "radfem'y". I also never once saw an article there that made a good point in the few times I visited. Seemed like a lot of indignant yelling and little substance. I also constantly hear bad shit about Paul Elam here on reddit.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 11:09 PM
2

Really makes you respect the guy huh? He sounds like a carbon copy of your "friendly" neighbourhood radfem. In fact radfems are the only people I've ever seen say things like that ("you're wrong but I won't waste my time telling you why", essentially).
/r/MensRights08/12/13 10:52 PM
8

AVFM has been a dirty stain on the MRM for a long time. I hope they go away.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 10:47 PM
23

Sexism is discrimination + power. Only women suffer from sexism because only men have power. Only men have power because women suffer from sexism. Aaaaand the loop is closed.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 09:47 PM
24

So when you criticize a woman for not shaving her armpits it's sexism. But when you criticize a man for not shaving his neck it's not? Which is it gonna be? Why am I not suprised at the hypocrisy?
/r/MensRights04/12/13 09:42 PM
7

I think you misunderstood his post. Look at the post he replied to.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 04:35 PM
5

At the same time these people usually support one or several of the following: The ability for a woman to surrender her child to the state anonymously, state funded orphanages, state subsidised abortion. And probably others I can't think of. The hypocrisy is strong as always.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 02:43 PM
1

Right but you have to assume it might not be aborted, and in most cases probably won't. Anyway my response to that is this: If the woman chose to go on with the pregnancy alone, give her child support from the state (for the sake of the child, not for her). Since the man did not chose to have a child he should not be held responsible for the child's upkeep. None the less we cannot punish the child for the mothers stupid decision, it needs support from someone or something, so, the state.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 02:40 PM
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The only real counter argument is that the child would suffer from only being supported by one parent. To fix this I think we should let single parents receive child support from the state, but many people counter that with "it's the man's responsibility to pay that since he chose to have sex". Obviously when talking about the mothers responsibility for having sex everything changes....
/r/MensRights17/11/13 02:23 PM
1

Well since that clump of cells won't be aborted in this case it's going to become a person. That's the difference.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 02:20 PM
1

We have to think in the present and that is effectively why they got charged. If they didn't distribute it around the school it would not have gone to court. Laws don't change depending on the circumstances. The law is the law is the law. In this case they are bending the law by not charging the girls.
/r/MensRights16/11/13 03:46 PM
1

I don't think you actually meant to remove CP laws but just in case I'm going to clarify what you hope you meant (which I agree with) which is to remove the CP charge off the boys as opposed to remove the laws. No not all CP laws. Just the law that states an under age person who takes a sexy picture of themselves is producing CP. People have been convicted of this in the past. So it's not really the case that the boys got charged because they "distributed". Since that's not how this law has work…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 03:27 PM
0

I agree with you in spirit, but the law doesn't work that way, or isn't supposed to anyway. If someone makes a legal dick move you can't just use a different law to nail them. The cp law actually is used on people who merely took pictures of themselves and as such it's an insane law. Why does this insane law not apply on the girls in this instance? I'm glad it didn't since it's an insane law, but they are using it on the boys so there is definitely sexism in the works here. I would love for ther…
/r/MensRights15/11/13 02:57 PM
2

It is very much a dick move but there are no laws against that kind of thing that I know of (there probably should be). The thing they are actually being prosecuted for both them and the girls are guilty of.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 12:15 PM
1

Ok.. I think a vast majority of people don't really hate someone enough that they want to kill or rape them.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 04:35 PM
1

Still have no idea what any of this has to do with the statement that "most people would commit crimes if they could get away with it". The reason most people don't rape is because they don't want to rape and because they don't want to hurt other people.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 04:14 PM
1

I don't know what this has to do with anything.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 12:28 PM
4

And at the same time it is portraying men as rapists. But a feminist can always twist things so that she is the victim.
/r/MensRights12/11/13 04:07 AM
2

I would imagine that most people would commit crimes if they could get away with it, Except, you know, morality?
/r/MensRights12/11/13 03:54 AM
1

Isn't that a step towards equity? Otherwise, all women desiring children would suffer professionally far more than a man who wants to be a father. Yep and I am personally for it. Most MRA's are against it which is the reason I said there is some hypocrisy in the MRA as well on this issue. Again, something I struggle with in theory but that has a solution that comes in application. Society can't pay for all unwanted children. If, some years from now, we have a world in which it can, then there is…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 09:13 PM
1

I'm not sure where you got that. please explain I am saying that feminists are pushing for the compensation of mothers due to the effect pregnancy has on their careers. As for forcing abortion, no one is saying that so just drop that subject. And why would we pay for the father? Because he had no say in the matter. Thus it's not really his fault the child exists and must be cared for. As he is innocent, what is the rationale on putting the burden on him? Why not then distribute it upon all innoc…
/r/MensRights10/11/13 08:24 PM
1

Right but the part where society pays is part of the whole legal paternal surrender idea. You obviously can't have one without the other or the child would suffer for it. And if you expect society to pay for a mothers pregnancy then you should expect it to pay for the man's part as well. I don't really understand what your point is to be honest. It seems you are for the idea but you are worried people would not want it? I don't see how that has anything to do with the idea itself.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 07:16 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not talking about forcing an abortion. I am talking about legal paternal surrender. The woman is free to have the child but the father can opt out of fatherhood and child support will be paid for by the state instead of the father. Thus we can avoid both of the situations you feel are unacceptable. How is that not the best solution?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 05:02 PM
1

Ok, to clarify: I'm not saying the whole thing is symmetrical. I'm saying there is a symmetry in the case that both genders suffer from asymetry.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 04:38 PM
1

Ok, to clarify: I'm not saying the whole thing is symmetrical. I'm saying there is a symmetry in the case that both genders suffer from asymetry.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 04:36 PM
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I'm not following. How is there not symmetry? In both cases you have a person making the choice to have sex, a pregnancy happens, and then there is an adverse effect that only strikes against one of the genders.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 11:16 AM
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Don't forget that when it comes to pregnancy and being away from work and thus missing out on some potential career development feminists never declare that the woman chose to have sex/get pregnant and thus can't complain. No, she needs to be compensated. Hypocrisy as always. Though I will say there is some hypocrisy in this matter from the MRA side as well.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 02:01 AM
4

Let me know if I got it wrong because it seems absurd. But here's my take on it: You believe that anyone is allowed to do anything and can never be criticized for it, because apparently the only reason people ever criticize other people is because it feels good? That makes absolutely no sense to me. Anyway you seem to be lacking in empathy if you don't understand why it's less than OK to make a "silly random remark/joke" about a persons traumatic experience.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 04:17 PM
4

I have no idea what your point is.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 04:05 PM
6

I think his point is that it's a little insensitive.
/r/MensRights09/11/13 01:16 PM
9

Honestly, I think some feminists have simply become addicted to the notion of being a victim. It's an easy way to feel self-righteous. When you are the victim you can never be wrong (in their world). The more victimized you are the more right you are and the less anyone is allowed to question you. Also it gives you a nice and "valid" excuse for misandry. Something like that...
/r/MensRights07/11/13 10:48 PM
1

And if children were starving in Africa, I wouldn't worry about any US prisoners, right?
/r/MensRights07/11/13 02:00 AM
2

No. You said there was a double negative which there wasn't...
/r/MensRights07/11/13 12:21 AM
1

No, you just didn't read it carefully enough. I only reversed once. Though I wrote "man" when I should have written "anything but a woman" so I can see why you would be confused. Anyway, if the vast majority of protagonists are male, isn't that a problem?
/r/MensRights06/11/13 10:53 PM
2

The fix would be that people see the trend in that very few movies get the "seal of approval". Which individual movies get it wouldn't matter much.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:49 PM
3

Nobody cares if a single movie passes the test. The thing is when 80% don't it's a whole other matter.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:14 PM
1

It's not government enforced nor taxpayer funded in this case.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:08 PM
3

I wouldn't say a ton. Not if you compare it to the opposite anyway.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 04:48 PM
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Giving it an official rating probably has such effects. Considering people hopefully know what the rating means it'll be up to every person to decide if they care enough about such a thing to let it affect their decision to see the movie. My spontaneous feeling is that most people won't care at all, but that such a rating will still highlight the issue and make people aware of it. I agree. But I also will not give official ratings to the haircuts of individual garbage collectors just because the…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:51 PM
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That is a very good point. There are so many tropes concerning men that I'm not sure a single test could cover them all though. We might need a whole slew... disposability is a big one for sure. Oh and maybe a test to see if whoever is portrayed as evil also happens to be male. But I would say that the bechdel test is different in that it doesn't just try to point out sexist things in general, but concerns the very participation of women in movie plots.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:12 PM
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That's an interesting exercise in mental gymnastics. You begin by making the case that blame lies in the subjective experience of the blamed (or not blamed). You then declare out of thin air that if it were women being blamed, I would have supported them, while also insinuating that I would be wrong in doing so (but wait, doesn't that make your original statement wrong? does it's validity depend on gender?). Then you conclude that I, in doing so (or rather, in doing so in your imagination) am su…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 03:04 PM
4

Wow. Yeah I'm totally a feminist only I've been active in the MRA sub longer than you have been a redditor. The irony here is that you posess all the qualities that makes a radfem bad. You are overly aggressive, view the world in black and white and reject an idea purely because you've heard the opposing side use it. Here's a news-flash: Feminism and the MRM have some small overlap because they are both gender-literate movements. Shocking isn't it?
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:57 PM
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Drawing attention to it by giving out ratings based on it is a clear way of trying to lower the popularity of certain pieces of art based on this ridiculous standard. This may or may not be called trying to enforce it if you want to quibble about definition. I see it as simply drawing attention to the problem. I doubt many people are going to skip watching a movie because it didn't pass the bechdel test. As for insinuations that I have not read it: Where did I come up with the notion of a test: …
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:43 PM
2

I think you have completely misunderstood the bechdel test. It doesn't in any way care about if you have a man talking to a woman. I really don't know how you came to these conclusions.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:36 PM
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I agree it won't be the old authors. But I actually think exposing these things help because really, most people (including myself) are so used to this that we don't really see it. I had actually never spared a thought to gender in films until I read about the bechdel test. Once people start seeing a problem it has the potential to affect people (such as new talent, most likely) who can make the difference.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:33 PM
3

I think it's silly to expect that kind of change. Extra scenes like that would not make anyone happy and the movie in question would probably just get criticized for paying lip service to the bechdel test. In the end it would probably end up having the opposite effect as hoped. The positive change you speak of, I actually think it could happen. But as with all things, change is a sloooow process. We're not gonna see an increase in such movies tomorrow, or in 5 years. But maybe in 10-15.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:17 PM
-3

If people were trying to enforce passing the bechdel test I would have a big problem with it. But that's not what is happening here. They are only drawing attention to it. It's not that anyone is not showing movies that don't pass the test. You should really read the article, not just look at the headline.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 02:11 PM
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Let's try a gender swap. How would you feel if you lived in a world where almost all movies failed the reverse bechdel test. In other words you could almost never see two men talking about another man. It was all women or men talking about women. Are you seriously saying you wouldn't see a problem with this?
/r/MensRights06/11/13 01:56 PM
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It's not feminist drivel since it's part of the MRA narrative as well. Maybe you are new to this thing. Women being seen as non-actors is for example a big contributing force to why men are receiving harsher sentences for the same crime. Or why only men are seen as potential sexual predators etc. etc. They wait around to be hit on. They sit at their desks hoping to be promoted. They just wait for someone else to get their lives started, and then they wonder why nothing ever happened for them. An…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 01:43 PM
13

If you read the article this is not something mandatory. Just a new rating that four small Swedish cinemas are now using. There's no need to be up in arms about this. Also, the bechdel test does highlight a problem that exists within our culture. That of men being seen as actors, and women being seen as only acted upon (I am assuming this is the reason why most movies fail this test). This notion is not only to the detriment of women but also men. In fact it's getting more common to see feminist…
/r/MensRights06/11/13 01:20 PM
12

Ok I am confused. I almost never see misogyny in this sub. Why are people in this thread talking like it's a problem? Do I somehow just miss all the misogynistic comments?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:58 PM
19

Yeah this is sadly true. If you reject a fat and/or ugly woman you are an insensitive shallow bastard. If you even approach someone as a fat and/or ugly man you are a creep and it's probably best to get a restraining order.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 01:47 PM
4

No. Still too ugly.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 01:39 PM
167

As always equality doesn't mean 50/50 but 100% women. Makes me sick.
/r/MensRights02/11/13 05:29 PM
5

Didn't you get the memo. Feminism is now about preserving gender roles and embracing the victimhood of weak women!
/r/MensRights31/10/13 12:38 PM
3

Actually I find nowadays many feminists have completely misunderstood feminism and are traditionalists, embracing most gender roles rather than opposing them and only really opposing gender roles that have very clear negative effects on women. I don't know how that happened but there you have it.
/r/MensRights30/10/13 10:56 AM
1

viscous Oh god
/r/MensRights28/10/13 08:31 PM
10

More importantly, what exactly is "milk" and why can't it be said that she is getting it? Like a fair milk exchange. You get some of my milk, I get some of yours. That's love right? A dual, reciprocal thing. Or is a mans love worth nothing?
/r/MensRights28/10/13 04:02 AM
-10

Well damn, Sherlock.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 08:00 PM
36

Your main flaw in this particular situation is disagreeing with someone who has an opressed vagina. Afaik they don't know his/her gender.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 04:24 PM
1

And is unreasonable, gold digger or not.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 11:16 PM
1

Or maybe it's that he's been taught that men always want it? And any boy wants to be a man. I too loathed getting kissed as a child, and yet did nothing to stop it.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 06:34 PM
2

spatial*
/r/MensRights14/10/13 05:25 PM
1

Circular logic. Men aren't "marginalized" so they don't actually suffer from sexism, just from individual cases of prejudice. Since they only suffer from individual cases of prejudice they are not "marginalized". Good work.. facepalm The big problem is that people like her are unaware of sexism against men and are not interested in finding out about it because then they can't use their precious "victim"-tag any more. The only thing you can do is educate her about sexism against men. But it's goi…
/r/MensRights14/10/13 05:21 PM
7

I see a lot of comments online saying things like "men can't be raped, if he is hard then he wanted it". But these are probably a vocal minority. I actually think most people are not retarded.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 07:34 AM
4

Wasn't there an actual study on this?
/r/MensRights22/09/13 09:08 AM
2

No. Some people actually find chubby chicks attractive. You sound incredibly narrow minded and immature.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 09:38 PM
5

Wow. Checked out your post history because you said such a ridiculous thing and with your name I thought maybe you were an SRS shill or something. Nope, just the biggest asshole on reddit. Congrats.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 09:26 PM
16

Really? I see a lot of the opposite. People keep mentioning over and over again that feminist =/= woman.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 10:38 AM
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Proud to be an MRA when I see these kind of comments in the top. Keep it level guys and gals!
/r/MensRights20/09/13 10:34 AM
2

But but... according to feminist "logic" (lol) if a woman with a mustache is looked down upon that is because mustaches are seen as masculine and masculinity is looked down upon!
/r/MensRights06/09/13 03:07 PM
1

I'm just saying that being conservative is generally seen as bad in progressive-fascist Sweden. I personally happen to agree by and large that being conservative is usually the worse option but I don't see anything inherently wrong with it, and I'll defend your right to hold conservative opinions to the death.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 10:03 AM
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AFAIK something like 95% of MRA's identify as egalitarian. The reason we support the MRM and not the egalitarian movement is that women's rights already have a lot of influence and power and, I can't speak for everyone but I feel that before egalitarianism can work we need to raise awareness of male problems lest egalitarianism just becomes a female-centred movement like feminism. Basically most people think men don't have sexism related problems and if we fail to raise awareness of these then I…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 07:47 AM
1

Are there any actual laws that have been passed in the past 10 years that could be considered "feminist laws"? Because if not then well.. I rest my case. But maybe I'm just ignorant to them.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:39 PM
1

Well, to be fair I think many of the other parties mostly just pay lip service to the feminist label in order to gain PC points. Maybe I'm wrong, this is just my impression.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:17 PM
5

That's not an accurate description of feminism though. Feminism comes with patriarchy theory and the notion that women are oppressed and men are privileged as a whole.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 10:33 PM
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Women's rights are needed. Feminism is more than that, though.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 09:26 PM
4

Yeah we have that problem too actually. Sweden is probably the no1 country in the world when it comes to PC-hysteria. You may not criticise islam because that means you automatically hate every practitioner of said religion and probably every non-practitioner too who was just born in a muslim country, you terrible racist you.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 07:18 PM
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Well the irony is that it's a fascism about being progressive. Only, when you find out that what was touted as progressive was in fact wrong and not very progressive at all, you're not allowed to criticise it lest you be seen as a conservative.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 07:12 PM
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No. We don't really have a MRM here. There are 2 bloggers who write MRA related stuff (and take heavy flak for it) but I don't think they actually self identify as MRA's (not sure though since I've read almost nothing of them). The movement is simply not even known about in Sweden. Being an MRA in Sweden is kind of like being an atheist in the US. If you told anyone you'd get something like "Huh? What is that??? Do you hate women or something?! What the fuck?!".
/r/MensRights01/09/13 06:16 PM
2

Sadly some people do. Some things just boggle the mind like no other.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 05:24 PM
2

Using "they" doesn't even remotely work in Swedish. Hen is a great addition to our language IMO.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:15 PM
0

I don't think you can necessarily call people MRA's just because they disagree with feminism or agree with a specific MRA sentiment. In my experience a lot of people think feminism is bullshit but for all the wrong reasons and meanwhile embrace the male gender role and don't think men suffer from sexism either. Essentially they are unthinking people who think the whole idea that gender affects people is "some kind of weird gay ass thinking" and people should "stop whining like little pussies".
/r/MensRights31/08/13 09:17 AM
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Furthermore I think it's a false assumption to ascribe feminism as liberal and critique of feminism as conservative. So ceding that point to begin with would be bad.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 08:41 AM
2

Wind gust = phallic thrust. No way they would do that. "Our society is so absorbed with celebrating masculinity that almost everything is made in the image of the phallus. Dicks fucking everywhere!!!! And no I'm not just a crazy bitch!!!" - Probably every womens studies professor ever
/r/MensRights31/08/13 08:38 AM
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I've seen "relationship" used a lot.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 07:45 AM
6

Certainly not an issue in itself. I would rather see it as a (insignificant) symptom of a larger issue.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 10:05 AM
5

Never saw pussy refered to as junk, ever.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:56 AM
20

They actually say exactly this...
/r/MensRights26/08/13 02:27 PM
3

If you look at it carefully, you see that the kid actually ran into him, not the other way around. That mom should have kept an eye on her kid, she was very far away when it happened. Shitty parent is shitty.
/r/MensRights24/08/13 08:39 AM
1

I can't take that first link seriously when the site it's on is called scientific psychic and has a section on "paranormal" :( Not saying the info is wrong but I would prefer a more reliable source :)
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:40 PM
14

I like when people are real on this sub. Sometimes I'm proud to call myself an MRA. Other times I am embarrassed.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:29 PM
7

This is really interesting and unexpected, do you have a source?
/r/MensRights23/08/13 01:24 PM
1

Why would that be misogynistic? If anything it's misandrist because he only cares about the situation with a woman as opposed to just "person".
/r/MensRights21/08/13 02:44 PM
1

Please don't upvote stuff like this. Discussing what 1 whackjob says or thinks is unproductive and just lowers the quality of the sub.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:28 PM
1

Well I simply don't know of any movie with a similar scene. If anyone else does they are welcome to contribute!
/r/MensRights19/08/13 10:24 PM
2

Honestly, I think the opposite situation would never even be shown on TV, at least in a light hearted show like True Blood, because it would be seen as too terrible and serious. Meanwhile in that scene the atmosphere is somewhat light hearted. She is all smiles, it's focusing a lot on her pleasure, there is no dark or ominous music etc. etc. I get the feeling watching this that the message the producers want to convey is akin to "look, she's such a meanie, tehee! making him work for it!" rather …
/r/MensRights19/08/13 03:58 PM
3

Well if they do then you have an opening to try to change their minds. Logic is on your side (I know this doesn't always help, but it doesn't hurt!). You could point out that the very fact that they think it's different is sexism. To which they might respond something like "naww men always want sex, it's biological!". To which you can reply that you are a man and they are not, and you are here to tell them that the idea of men being sex crazed animals is sexist fiction, not reality. I know some …
/r/MensRights19/08/13 02:18 PM
2

While I have no experience or knowledge of this thing whatsoever, I can definitely imagine having a female lawyer would produce a subconscious effect upon the judge or jury or whatnot. A man defending another man could be seen as two agents of the terrible patriarchy for people inclined to such thinking. That said, it's probably way more important that your lawyer is competent than what gender it has. Just the idle musings of a layman so take it for what it's worth.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 01:29 PM
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I'll show you the door.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 08:03 AM
5

Yep. Calling someone a pussy essentially translates into calling them weak or a coward, because there are sexist norms saying women are weaker and have less agency than men (the latter ironically mostly perpetuated by feminists). Calling someone a dick essentially translates into calling them unsympathetic or unjust, because there are sexist norms saying men are more agressive and less sympathetic than women. Somehow one of these is a problem and the other not... hmm...
/r/MensRights14/08/13 07:09 PM
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I actually had a feminist on reddit tell me that the draft is discriminating against women because women don't get to join the army and are seen as weak and bla bla bla. She didn't think it was important when I raised the point of the endless amount of men dying in horrible ways in wars throughout time. In fact she thought it was nothing compared to how women get raped in war, every time. War is all about rape. Sigh...
/r/MensRights14/08/13 07:00 PM
0

No u.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 06:48 PM
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I'm 31 but thanks I guess?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:34 PM
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Wow. Literally the best gif I ever saw by so fucking far.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:18 PM
2

I am imagining the shitstorm and all the help she would get. And now I have a headache, thanks.. :(
/r/MensRights13/08/13 03:14 PM
4

I am sorry to say this but you have utterly retarded friends and family if they react like that :(
/r/MensRights13/08/13 12:42 PM
16

But I'm a man and I don- oops! I started mansplaining! Sorry sorry! I am such a shitlord :( I need to accept that I am scum. Forgive me..
/r/MensRights13/08/13 12:40 PM
17

Mothers and sisters but not brothers and fathers? Obvious sexism is obvious.
/r/MensRights13/08/13 12:17 PM
14

Hmmmm, so... if someone gets empty rude generic comments on their youtube clip or in their blog (as happens to exactly everyone on the internet) it's called internet bullying or harassment or "serious threats" and is a major problem (but only if the recipient is a female feminist of course!). However if someone receives unsubstantiated criminal allegations online it's totally fine and it's outrageous that the target of these accusations is shocked! How dare he be shocked! Clearly PZ Myers is the…
/r/MensRights13/08/13 11:18 AM
3

Never saw it that way. Good point.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:52 AM
9

Well, to be fair, power isn't binary but a spectrum. One can always fantasize about more power. Let's not circlejerk it too hard guys.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:47 AM
3

Well, to be fair, any character in a game is designed to look good for the simple reason that game developers want the game to be cool and appealing to gamers. As a guy, I absolutely appreciate my characters having hair because it makes them look more awesome.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 12:28 AM
0

Good thing you don't have to chose between exactly those 2! But yeah I agree with your point.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 08:39 AM
6

Not that there's anything wrong with being angry if you are struggling against discrimination. But I don't even see a lot of anger in this subreddit. Yeah, the occasional bitter guy who thinks women are fucked up. But overall people seem level headed here and open to discussion etc.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 08:31 AM
5

Seriously imagine how terrible the trial must have been for her. Sitting there and talking about a traumatic experience that didn't happen and being objectified by everyones male gaze. I think it practically constitutes rape. Might just be safer to give a few years in prison to everyone present including judge and jury.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 08:48 AM
20

Thing is, when a woman does it it's not assault it's a "relationship".
/r/MensRights23/07/13 03:35 PM
35

in a 100% non-perverted way So sad that you have to say this :/
/r/MensRights23/07/13 03:33 PM
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Really don't like the aggressive tone in the right column... shit like this doesn't further our cause but just makes us look like whiny woman-haters. No thank you.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 05:22 PM
1

So, if they feel fine about it but it offends you aesthetically, that means they suffer? Feel free to link citations proving that trans-people feel worse post surgery. Either that or see your phobia for what it is.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 08:07 PM
1

No it's just a way to point out that you are not driven by rationality but by misguided hatred and fear. Being perverted doesn't translate into harming another person, thus it's none of your business how perverted a person is or isn't.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:41 PM
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This doesn't belong here really. It's the words of one heavily downvoted person. Let's keep the level here higher than SRS.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:37 PM
0

Transgenders are a bunch of perverts based on every single psychology/psychiatry/psychoanalytic textbook out there that hasn't been corrected by feminists/social Marxists. Not saying you're right but what exactly is wrong with being a "pervert"? You sound like a pretty hateful person.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 07:19 PM
4

The female power fantasy: The 5 year old girl is privileged to be with the handsome objectified man and suck his beautiful dick. Sometimes, only through a gender switch can we really understand how truly fucked up something is. Face it, even us MRA's are conditioned in these ways.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 06:11 PM
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The funny thing is I bet many feminists would say the little boy is privileged and the women in that video are being objectified and oppressed.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 12:39 PM
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That's a funny expression they got there. "Supporters of equality for women". How can you be a supporter for equality for one specific thing? The word equality means by default it's for everyone. I guess while everyone is equal, some people just deserve to be more equal than others.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 11:11 AM
8

Except they often say discrimination against women is institutionalised, unlike discrimination against men. At least I hear this quite often.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 12:26 PM
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As a result of her crocodile tears and her gender, she will receive a lessor sentence than if a man tried to hire a hitman for his wife. Fixt
/r/MensRights11/07/13 08:08 AM
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The reason most MRA's are anti-feminism is that feminists are actively anti-MRA. All we want is to promote gender issues affecting men, but we are unable to do so without being actively chastised, sabotaged and vilified by feminists. Sexist norms affect both genders (often even the very same norm can strike at both genders in very different ways). Under feminist doctrine there is however no such thing as sexism against men. Feminists are actively denying that any such issues exist and thus perpe…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 07:48 AM
2

Get RES and you can save threads.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 06:45 AM
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