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Funniest thing about you is that you believe if you keep baiting, I’ll write a bannable insult. No worries, Queen. You can keep all these men in the hook. Just keep up the cleavage pics and “support” red pill tenets while betraying all women everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:46 AM

Dude he freaked out and raided his closet to “prove” it’s not him, but it’s him. The username is a riff off the other name, his shirt has buttons, the partner’s skirt is in other videos on TikTok. But I gotta go, good luck with the gullibility. That’s just one of many problems here, along with the Jehovah’s Witness mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:44 AM
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Get some, Pearl
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:42 AM

Are you scraping Reddit through a browser agent? Nope, but I’m surprised you know what that is. I wrote and published the script, but no longer own rights to it. I’ll get busted hard if caught using it so I’ll have to delete and clean. How do you know what that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:41 AM
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Maybe they’ll pick you, Sweetie.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:38 AM

Who taught you that women are desperate to be liked? My only goal is to stop the grift and dry out the poisoned well. Who gives a flying fuck what men who hate women think? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:33 AM

It’s him, and you can continue talking to a married conservative man “every day”. Cheers ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:30 AM

The pics he posted only show the bottom few inches of the shirt. The shorts he posted on the floor to “prove” he’s not the same person are not the same shirt. The skirt of the woman in his photos is on her in a different post. The craziest thing about men in the terp manosphere is they assume women don’t code. I literally wrote a program/crawler which checks and verifies usernames based on language, punctuation, habitual use or misuse of words, and just added photos to it last week. But any of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:28 AM

Witchhunt? Be serious right now. You literally do nothing about brigading, which is witch-hunting. @sanascouple on TikTok. Either look it up or maybe respect his wife and don’t literally talk to this guy literally every day wtf Talk
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:20 AM
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Done
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:19 AM

Are you in the US or India where TikTik is restricted?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:17 AM

If you can’t find it, I’ll DM you a broken link.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:15 AM

Dude it fits right to him. Go to TikTok and look up @sanacouple
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:14 AM

Just go look at the username I posted. He’s not in the US, he’s lying, it’s ridiculous. Hurry though, he already deleted one video. But I have a screenshot. I will not post direct links, but I’ll be happy to post a broken link so you can verify even though you mods do nothing about using the daily thread to brigade. So yeah, ima fact check and expose liars since you won’t take action against racists or brigaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:13 AM

Dude anyone can literally see where you stole those pics 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:05 AM

It’s not though, look at the username I posted. These images came directly from a TikTok user not in the Americas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:05 AM
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Okay, sorry. Literally dealing with a stalker (like who gives a shit about me) who promotes himself as a dating coach and encourages faking a persona… who literally stole and posted images from TikTok to pretend he’s good with women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:03 AM
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BTW, this image is stolen from user Sanacouple in Nepal on TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:58 AM

Oh hey buddy. New username but I recognize you. Remember this? It’s what got you banned before. “ Do not bring other PPD threads into the daily thread.” I stand corrected, that’s definitely a ladder and those leaves are absolutely cherries. Great job pretending you made a huge sacrifice and “treated” your partner to gathering her own food. What a fantastic present to a mother. We sure do love picking, shopping for, preserving, packing lunches, meal planning, and preparing food! It’s what women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:53 AM
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What narrative? I’ve quoted you pretending you give men advice, cherries are the least likely “pick your own” fruit as they are generally productive on new, higher limbs, they have to be covered in netting to prevent herbivory by birds, rodents, and raccoons, and a “pick your own” cherry orchard is so unlikely only AI could write it. But whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:35 AM
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Wow. That’s a horrible way to treat others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:31 AM
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Character. Morals, convictions. Honesty, brevity. Decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:22 AM
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Dude. Please post pics of you going above and beyond if you and your girlfriend “picking cherries”. Did you carry in a ladder? Bucket truck? Did you hire a super tall man or a gorilla to shake the tree so you could pick them off the ground? What are you doing right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:20 AM
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because that's what leads to suicide and major depression for a lot of men when women change their minds and want to break up Oh my fucking god. They don’t “change their minds”, they realize men misrepresented themselves. I am still committed to my girlfriend but It's not like my whole world and my identity is going to revolve around her. I will always be ready to break up and go my separate way at any time because I keep my psychological/mental distance from her at all times. I have seen too ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:17 AM
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Shew wait till you see the men arguing with me and pretending to be expert dating coaches teaching men how to act like Chad. The red pill is literal poison. They wind up bitter because they aren’t just trying to show enthusiasm and optimism, they don’t even know what those terms mean. They are literally attempting to emulate a stereotype who doesn’t exist and getting mad at women who say “yeah, maybe don’t pretend to be all cool and relaxed and sexy if you’re actually a porn addicted insecure ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:15 AM
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You literally shouldn’t. If she doesn’t like you for you, don’t. Don’t bother. Don’t pretend. Don't “fall” for any woman based on her looks alone, date only and solely for compatibility and mutual attraction. Stop listening to insane conservative women who claim men have to jump through hoops and pay a dowry/go into debt for a blood diamond/buy flowers every week unless you want to do those things. But do clean your fucking house and raise your kids and act like a competent adult. That’s a unive…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 03:00 AM
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Dude no. You literally claim to be in a position to give advice to unfortunate men in a thread in which men don’t understand how grift hurts them. While also admitting that misrepresentation is a “dating strategy”? And “pick your own cherries”? Holy shit. Cherries grow on trees. There are less than ten dwarf cherry pick your own orchards out west, and zero in the Midwest or east where cherries don’t grow all that well. And since you’re claiming expertise, biology is what I do. You can pick your …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:57 AM
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The dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:44 AM
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I always advise to show as much of your personality on a first date Great, who are you again?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:44 AM
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… the dictionary??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:33 AM
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I’m not confident, I’m ordinary. Average. Nothing special about me whatsoever. But I’m not at all concerned with faking a persona to impress people. If I had to pretend, we have nothing in common anyway and won’t date. Frankly confused by the women defending this. I am well aware that men don’t require mutual attraction, they want what they want (cough friendzone), but somehow I grew up with the impression that women desire genuine attraction and don’t want to gamble on a man who is lukewarm or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:32 AM
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… and that scheduled date will result in a humiliating failure the moment she realizes he’s a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:28 AM
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Genuine people exist and thankfully outnumber the other kind. I’ve had the misfortune of encountering two men who misrepresented themselves because I assumed most people are genuine, but I’m older and wiser and know how to spot the bad actors now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:28 AM
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Most people consider a grifter to be someone who virtue signals something. That isn’t remotely what grift means.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:18 AM
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Are you okay right now? What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:15 AM
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Majority of modern women live alone and earn their own money and take care of themselves while the majority of men stay with Mommy until they trick a second women into adopting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:15 AM
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Nope, I don’t feel the need to “make a good impression”? I’m qualified. I only take jobs I know how to do, only date men with whom I share common values and interests. I make friends within and among my social spheres, and befriend coworkers who share my goals and interests. I’ve never in my life felt the need to conceal anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:04 AM
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Paying someone to fake a persona on a dating profile isn’t going to “get results”, it’s likely to get a man posted on social media for misrepresenting himself. Do grifters promise refunds now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:02 AM
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Nah, you’re attempt a a gotcha backfired spectacularly because you assumed women are willing to accept pay so that shitty men can impersonate better men. Doesn’t matter if it’s a “thought experiment”, since the number of unsuccessful men who pay for grifter content are still struggling with dating. If men can’t create attraction on their own merit, the solution isn’t to pay grifters (male or female) to fake a persona. The solution isn’t to lower expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:49 AM
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Nope. I have never felt the need to pretend to be anyone else, and I’d never raise someone’s expectations in a professional or personal environment just so I can get what I want out of them. There is zero value in tricking people into falling for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:46 AM
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Not even a grifter can do more than put lipstick on a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:40 AM
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Yeah like I said, if men want to pay grifters to fake their persona, there are hundreds of male grifters happy to take their money. But very few women are willing to fuck over other women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:38 AM
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I’ve never faked nor felt the need to pretend to be someone I’m not. Anyone who does so shouldn’t be surprised when the person they are dating either splits or loses attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:37 AM
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Pretending to be someone else to fool someone into dating or falling for them is not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:22 AM
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Is the logic in the room with us right now? Because I’m reading a man admitting that men have such shit personalities they must pay someone to write their OLD ad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:21 AM
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Cool. So a man has such a shit personality he has to pay a grifter to make him appear human, and he’s complaining about women’s personalities? Did you think this through?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:20 AM
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Who cares what a rapist “thought”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:17 AM
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The fact that there isn't a single female ghost writing agency out there and many male ghost writing agencies says a lot. Women always tout their social skills but apparently don't want to capitalize on them. Men: “I’m filled with self righteous rage that there are no women out there fleecing vulnerable men and taking their money! We want female grift, and we want it now! Grrrr!”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:15 AM
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I will repeat that there are no agencies founded by women Wow. I’ve seen a lot of men here defend grifters and most of those men have no idea they are the customer of unscrupulous men. But I’ve never seen a man complain there aren’t more female grifters. Have you heard of paypigs? If men want to pay women to take their money, just cut out the middle man and hand it directly to women on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:14 AM
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No, that’s not okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:09 AM
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I like women, why in the world would I sabotage my friends or strangers by helping a man pretend to be someone he is not? Men pretend enough as it is. If you men want to lie and misrepresent yourselves, you do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:07 AM
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Tell that to a judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:03 AM
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So you fuck a lot of super gross, ugly and unhygienic women or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:38 AM
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Ha ha it’s an 80s piece of shit my oldest brother owned in high school. It’s a “show car” because few survived to this age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:36 AM
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Some do, I’m sure. But some are almost certainly excited by her partner’s excitement. Men perform foreplay reluctantly if at all, and none bring women to orgasm if they are not seeking an orgasm themselves. Take a looong look at “random acts of muffdive” and see how many women complain that the men are deceptive rapists who assume they will be able to put their penis inside a woman they swore they wanted to selflessly please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:35 AM
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Not rich, nor will my niche STEM career allow it unless I somehow manage to publish a text which encourages even homeschoolers and conspiracy theorists to care about nature. But I did bust my ass in school and attend on full scholarship. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:30 AM
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Because women demand a huge show, so men are happy to oblige. Of course its not always sustainable, so it falls by the wayside. Youre lucky to get this sort of huge show at all considering the effort is never returned in kind. Where are the better men? This is you, right? “The divorce came out of nowhere” FTR, I’ve been dating since age 13, had four ltrs and I’m 29. Every man I dated takes my car on Sunday and fills it up, sometimes they wash it, too. And I race a show car as a hobby, I certainl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 12:08 AM
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If they are both doing them equally, nah. But if one outperforms the caring tasks: yep. Women don’t wash their husbands’ shitstained underwear for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:50 PM
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Of course its not always sustainable Men are dishonest, got it. Now tell us something women don’t know. A Youre lucky to get this sort of huge show at all considering the effort is never returned in kind. It’s returned for a lifetime of domestic service and familial care. But men don’t appreciate it, because they move directly from Mommy’s womb to Wifey’s womb.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:35 PM
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Do me a favor. Walk outside and eat vomit or dogshit. Report back. Barring that, find a toothless homeless woman who smells and do your best to get an erection and have sex with her. If you can’t find a hobo, then think of your most unpleasant female relative, and imagine having sex with her. Could be yer ma, don’t know, don’t care. If none of these work: open any science text and explore the definition of instinct and learn how disgust protects humans from getting sick or hurt. But don’t report…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:16 PM
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Nah, they aren’t replaceable until or unless they stop putting in the effort. Men’s nastiest habit is pretending to be caring and attentive just long enough to convince her to commit, then they reveal they are no hero, but a dependent. Unfortunately for men and women, men are very, very good at putting on a show of romance and care, which means a shrewd woman could, if she wanted to, maintain and endless rotation of caring and attentive men. But she can rarely count on one to maintain the same l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:13 PM
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Which has what to do with this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:52 PM
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Nevermind the fact that nobody is "hardwired" with fear or disgust of anyone it's taught. Is there no word for “instinct” in your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:51 PM
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Whiplash from that dodge of accountability. Answer the first question she asked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:50 PM
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Are you serious? What woman have you shared a home with who doesn’t take care of the bulk of domestic chores? Who doesn’t cook and clean, run errands, take care of social requirements, buy his favorite foods… I’m not bothering with the entire list here, but jfc women never stop taking care of men, who move from mommy’s vagina directly into wifey’s vagina. Most men never even dry out, because they are so shamelessly dependent on women to look after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:49 PM
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OP’s post going right over men’s heads as usual. Replace flowers with sex and/or the exhaustive and myriad acts of domestic service and report back. If the woman you married ignored you, did her own laundry, errands, cooking, made her own plans, and showed no interest in a man’s life or penis, how long would he stick around before he realized she doesn’t care about him at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:46 PM
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She can also replace him with a more attentive, more caring man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:42 PM
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Your life is not important It’s vital to the person you share a life and a home with. If that person isn’t the most important human in your life, your parents raised a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:39 PM
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If he remained the same guy he presented when dating, she’d be all over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:37 PM
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I like your TedTalk, KR.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 10:05 PM
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It’s the “cold” part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:46 PM
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An orgasm for each partner IS the minimum. There is nothing special about making sure a female partner is equally gratified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:44 PM
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Okay cool, you want a cookie for giving a woman an orgasm even though women “give” men orgasms 99.9% of the time? Try not to fall over with that inflated head because you do exactly the same thing she does for you. Regardless of your policy, most terpers expect and assume sexual gratification they cannot or will not provide, and if the do provide, they do so grudgingly and fuck it up on purpose so she won’t expect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:25 PM
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Then why do men make dating a Disney movie? Just keep doing that, and she will be happy. the guy likes working on cars and when you have a car problem, he volunteers that try to fix your car, If she’s someone who is nervous about car trouble, sure. I can work on cars, I race and rally. But all five of my ltrs have taken my car on weekends and washed them and filled them up with gas, and I grill for them and keep their favorite food on hand. I feel like you aren’t arguing in good faith, or else a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:18 PM
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Almost as if being himself is never good enough for her. It certainly is, so long as he’s the same men he pretended to be while dating and trying to win her over.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:16 PM
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any reasonable guy would want their partner to be happy during intimacy Are those reasonable men in the room with us right now? You’ve read this sub, most terpers don’t even believe women have orgasms…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:15 PM
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Words beat the shit out of getting poked with an erection when she’s feeding the baby or sleeping in on a day off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:14 PM
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Try again. Dude men can’t even schedule a medical appointment or bother to learn the name of their kids’ teachers, dentist, or friends. Men are incompetent and childlike which is precisely why women lose interest in having sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:05 PM
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“normal average men” are still approaching total strangers based on nothing other than her appearance, which means she is free to reject normal, average men based on nothing other than their appearance and their obvious lack of social connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:57 PM
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Last I heard, men in other countries have worse problems than the “male loneliness epidemic”, too. Some men are forced to fight in unjust wars, some men cry because they can’t force attractive women to touch their penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:34 PM
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You know, I heard of some cultures that do what you said and much worse, right fucking now. Be serious. The worst offenders against women are men who can’t get women to do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 09:36 AM
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Homosexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:33 AM
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I know you are talking about mammals, and also know you are incorrect. But yeah, that’s fine. I don’t enjoy talking to anti-science people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 05:33 AM
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Umm… I was sort of forced to start paying for women on dates even though I'm totally against it, if that counts. When I say "forced," nobody made me do it, but I was rejected for not doing it so often that I had to either do it or live with going on 90% fewer dates, and I couldn't take the latter option any longer. The same thing sort of happened with single moms. My dating pool is too single-mom concentrated for me to have that standard even though I really don't like dating single moms. It was…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:01 AM
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Just the fact that every couple / family now gets to / has to make different choices about how to construct the very fundamental components of household life This is horseshit. The single men who live alone take care of themselves and their homes, their yards, their parents' homes. And they take extra steps to prove their super-special competence when trying to impress dates. And it's total horseshit, it's acting. They immediately drop the competent act the minute a woman moves in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:39 AM
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Sure, if men mind their manners and prefer consent. If they don't, nope. If they stare at kids and teens and make women's lives difficult? nope. If they bring a porn addiction and a numb dick to a proper relationship? nope. Weird, one-sided fetishes? nope. I don't give a flying fuck about any men who don't care about enthusiastic consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:26 AM
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As human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:57 AM
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Isn't she trying to illustrate how misogyny/paternalism hurts men, too? Have you spent much time in this sub? The majority of men complain that women don't approach men, and that "isn't fair". But those men aren't appealing and already dislike women because they assume women have some imagined advantage? Those men are either illogical, ugly inside or out, or morons and fixated on the idea of "fairness". Conservative cultures and religions somehow informed men that they "deserve" a domestic serva…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:56 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:43 AM
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The suitors just have to impress the parents as well. Which is how things should be. The problem with men and women from developing countries and insular, cult-like religions is that they don't recognize or acknowledge bias, abuse, emotional trauma, or bigotry their parents suffer from/force upon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:43 AM
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You do? And so does the other guy? Why aren't you helping the 99% of the other red pill infected morons who believe they "deserve" female validation? Surely you guys have a better chance at informing them than women who are sick of their illogical ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:26 AM
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I misread his tone. He admitted he's short, so I assumed he's pretending to be generous in spirit if overweight women assume he's in their league. I apologized and deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:04 AM
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You keep avoiding defending your claim of misogyny, when nature isn't moral nor immoral, nature is indifferent. Stick to human behavior if you can't defend your premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:02 AM
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Cool. Long as we're all on the same page. If men are okay with deciding that their desire to wet their dick is more important than whatever women are doing, women are justified in revealing men's faces and attitudes so that other women are forewarned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:01 AM
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Young men growing up in the western modern world Never stop whining about "body count"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:59 AM
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but they will kill the offspring of the females first to induce heat. There are very few males with the genetic fortitude to do that. Most female animals pick and choose. No mammalian male wants to raise another male’s offspring Cuckholdery is common in millions of species, but most fathers (and some mothers) don't raise their young. Freshman year Bio 101 should have explained all this. Obviously, humans don’t do that because we’re not feral animals. Well, most of us aren’t. Men who demand virgi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:56 AM
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No, nevermind, seriously. If you understand why women are picky because pregnancy, birth, and motherhood is all-consuming, I'm quiet. Good luck. Get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:53 AM
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Oh, nevermind. I'm deleting my post. You're the first man I've ever seen here acknowledge actual reproductive biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:26 AM
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If you're cool with women declining to date a short dude, why participate in this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:25 AM
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Male animals attempting to demonstrate their fitness as mates and fathers is the norm, but it isn't misogyny. Sperm is cheap. Eggs are expensive. Only human men have decided that even genetically, socially, and intellectually inferior men "ought" to have a chance at copulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:23 AM
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It's impossible to know which man is going to lose his shit and act out when rejected, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:21 AM
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And the reverse is true. If a woman feels unsafe or bothered, she has the same right to whip out her phone or surreptitiously record and maybe even live stream a man who crudely interrupted her task. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:20 AM

This is you, right? Whole damn animal kingdom looking pretty misogynistic right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:18 AM
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If you attract fit women, what are you complaining about?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:17 AM
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... really? The men who aren't appealing to women aren't in a position to choose or complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:15 AM
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Show the class male animals which reject female animals which presented or have already been bred. ? It's right there. Which animals reject non-virgin females?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:13 AM
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That sounds amazing. Can you make that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:11 AM
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I don’t think she’s really saying that men are evil because of this I am, and they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:11 AM
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Did you... did you just claim "tone deaf"??? Do you prefer virgins or inexperienced women? Have you learned anything at all about virgin sacrifices or hymen tests? Are you aware that certain cultures demand a show of bloody sheets on the wedding night? Are you aware that certain cultures murder their own daughters and sisters who were raped or had consensual sex prior to marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:10 AM
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Show the class male animals which reject female animals which presented or have already been bred. Human's fucked it all up, the rest of the animal kingdom doesn't suffer pee-pants fear of comparison. Just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:08 AM
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Yep. Men prize virginity because of... reasons. Imagine how amazing life would be if men hadn't paid for hymens, if they hadn't slut shamed and fixated on "body count" for eons. If men had only enjoyed sex and treated women like fellow homo sapiens and enjoyed their sexuality with the same enthusiasm, this timeline would be joyful instead of apocalyptic. Men fucked it all up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:07 AM
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Oh. Then you get what you get, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:03 AM
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What's stopping you from dating wealthy, attractive, single, childless young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:00 AM
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If fit women are attracted to you, why are you encountering fat women who are interested? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:59 PM
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Are there any men here who realize that women who gravitate towards sexually assertive and confident men just desire mutually gratifying sex instead of having their body used in a humiliating and awkward way? Maybe women are also Homo sapiens who prefer orgasm to whatever weird and uncomfortable gyrations which lead to male orgasm while leaving women unsatisfied and used. Newsflash, fellas. If she’s interested in sex, the last thing she wants is a man who rubs pinches, or chokes because he consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:16 PM
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And these nice guys, who grew up privileged and safe, whine about criminals getting all the women, wouldn't even look at those same exact women they bitch about. Yeah they do, because of porn education. They fetishize those women and don’t find modest women appealing for anything except domestic and familial service. Uptight, inhibited men deeply desire uninhibited women. The Madonna/Whore Complex is one of the two things Freud guess correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:07 PM
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Who keeps telling men that women are worried about appealing to uptight, inhibited men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:50 PM
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Men here frequently admit predatory behavior, everyone knows they don’t care about mutual attraction, shared values, or shared experiences. I get that you think you said something shocking, but there are several threads a week with men admitting they prefer sheltered and autistic “girls”. This isn’t news. Men have always preferred female children they can control or intimidate. Those who can’t convince peers go to developing countries for exploitation. It’s 2/3 of this sub, come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:50 PM
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She still wants to share common values and common interests, no woman gives a shit about a man who she isn’t attracted to, can’t relate to, or doesn’t share values with. Men don’t care so they can’t understand. But “I manage GameStop” doesn’t mean shit if she can’t have a conversation with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:46 PM
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I’m not sure why you keep repeating “commonality of behavior” as it’s ridiculously redundant. You don’t need to emphasize sexual dimorphism, it’s not disputed. Even if some women aren’t invested in bigger and stronger and prefer more cerebral connections, sexual dimorphism is still the norm and will continue to be the norm. In both directions. Men also prefer smaller, more petite women with feminine physical attributes, since that is the norm. Neither preference is an indictment of character. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:30 AM
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You said we do, I did no such thing. I clarified a very important fact about women’s fluctuating cycle and women’s receptiveness and interest in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:25 AM
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No they didn’t. All men are not the same. All tall, strong men do not have the same personalities, habits, values, hobbies, or socio political views. There is more to mate choice than “he’s taller and stronger, I choose him”. But do go on, I feel as though you have a beef with sexual dimorphism. Maybe it would help to learn about raptors? Maybe eagles or hawks? The females are nearly twice the size of males.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:10 AM
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Might be beneficial to your sex life to learn that women are far more interested and receptive to sex close to ovulation when progesterone decreases and estrogen increases, making all the fun stuff exponentially more fun. But do you. If you want to convince men that women’s sexual behavior is static 28 days per month regardless of hormonal changes or hormonal birth control, go nuts. But I’m going to correct this wrong headed claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:07 AM
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intragender commonality of behavior Again. Obviously humans, a sexually reproducing and sexually dimorphic species, prefer the norm over deviants. Is this your point? They most women are attracted to larger, stronger men, and most men are attracted to smaller, more petite women? And you needed what… forty citations for something every fifth grade Biology student knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:05 AM
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Ma’am I’m literally a biologist concerned with mammalian reproduction and conservation. You are literally grasping Chat GPT horseshit. I’d rather not do this, because you are just supporting the terper anti science views, though I don’t believe that was your initial intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:01 AM
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I saw several speed dating mentions. Where did you copy this list from? I feel like you didn’t compile it to support your point at all, which is… actually, what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:59 AM
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Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:58 AM
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Yes you can, as can docs and lab results. The amount of human chorionic gonadotropin in the blood determines the date of conception within 3-4 days. And obviously ovulation increases interest in sex, come on. The increase in estrogen triggers sensitivity in the erogenous zones. All sexually reproducing species are more interested and receptive near ovulation, that’s the point. We are motivated to copulate when fertile.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:57 AM
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Yeah no thanks, not tonight, maybe in the morning if work is slow. All I did was click random links and five of the six didn’t support your claims at all or even relate distantly. Sexual dimorphism has a specific meaning in biology, regardless of how terpers try to use it to indict women for preferring men who are bigger, taller, and stronger, which is the norm. Sexual dimorphism not a conspiracy. It’s nothing more than a preference for norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:52 AM
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Doctors figure out the estimated conception date of an embryo from the last period. Yeah? Because that’s the date the endometrium begins thickening again to prepare for implantation of a potentially fertilized egg. Cut it out, guessing just gives moronic red pilled anti-science men more fuel to hate women. Lots of social mammals are receptive to sexual activity outside of a fertile period, and that includes physical affection, not just the stimulation of genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:30 AM
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Aww 😕 Stress, worry, and sleep deprivation is hell on mothers, less so for fathers. That doesn’t mean we are stuck with stressful expressions forever, the baseline temperament eventually wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:27 AM
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I’m not going to look at Chat GPT for actual science. more receptive and interested in sex during the two weeks around ovulation than the rest of the month. Read this again.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:25 AM
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All black tattoos eventually bleed and turn from black to bluish-green. I’ve seen a few micro pigment “hair lines” in Atlanta and New York, and they look ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:14 AM
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They aren’t just biology stunted, they are socially stunted, too, for a variety of reasons, and they seem to lack the understanding that an youthful appearance isn’t women’s primary motivator for attraction to men. Competence will always be more appealing than male youthfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:12 AM
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You constantly and consistently admit you are an outlier, both you and your girlfriend are on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:05 AM
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women don't have a real "heat" Except they do. Typically developing, menstruating women who are not on hormonal birth control are exponentially more receptive and interested in sex during the two weeks around ovulation than the rest of the month. Fertility is the primary driver for sexual receptiveness in humans and other mammals. Obviously. The massive number of unplanned and unwanted pregnancies reflects this reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:02 AM
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Holy shit some of these are hilariously biased. Did you think no one would verify?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:49 AM
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as gays might have the best advice for women Well here’s the thing. Men are willing to lie and misrepresent themselves, jump through hoops and pretend to be someone else. Lie about their religious and political orientation, pretend competence and confidence and pretty much pretzel themselves into an entirely different person in order to convince a woman into doing sex with them. Women don’t have to do that. Women can merely smile and show an interest in a man and his pants are on the floor. So g…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:45 AM
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Cool. Menstrual cycles and estrus aren’t the sole motivators for sexual interest and sexual behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:40 AM
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This is incorrect. Are you actually open to science and biology or do you just want to argue? Because I’ve found that posting science facts is a waste of time here due to the massive percentage of homeschooled and religious folk here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:36 AM
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Do men regard the same woman in men’s overalls, no makeup, and combat boots with the same interest as that woman in a bikini top, short cut-offs, and heels?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:31 AM
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Most definitely. How many times do red/black pilled men whine that “ugly men do the same thing as attractive men and get different results!?! It’s not fair!”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:27 AM
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After a brief stint with a judgmental, miserable scowler (we didn’t date, he was my assistant/intern at work), frownlines indicate an inability to feel and express joy and acceptance to me. Humorless people who take themselves super serious are not for me. We live and we learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:24 AM

Are you okay? [–]M3taBuster [score hidden] 6 hours ago Is Reddit popular with suburbanites? And is Eminem popular with suburbanites? Any data to back that up? white rapper There you go. Now you're getting closer to the real reason she chose Eminem. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:07 AM
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Apologies, I didn’t realize auto correct caught me. Pretty boys don’t need help with dating. Men who seek red/blackpill or PUA aren’t pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:05 AM
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It makes her an opportunist, but money sure af doesn’t make him more “attractive”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:03 AM
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It doesn’t matter what myth they believe. Men are wildly offended when rejected no matter what. The number of men who demand to know “Why?!?” when women say no is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:48 PM
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Smile lines: yes. Frown lines and scowls: nooooo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:46 PM
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Pretty boys aren’t (late edit/correction) desperately flocking to social media in search of cheat codes to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:46 PM

I’m looking forward to hearing about how one woman/two men appeals more to men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:25 PM
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Betcha he’s on the Diddy tapes, and so is everyone else who was “coaxed” into playing the inauguration.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:24 PM
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… racism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:53 PM

Tell us more, “suburbanites”. You must be sixty-seventy? Who are you lecturing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:53 PM

Do sex acts appeal to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:51 PM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:21 PM

Do you have the same negative reaction to other nudes? Venus? David? Aphrodite? Discus Thrower? Rugby players? Strong Man? Pirelli calendar? Herb Ritts, Helmut Newton, Annie Leibovitz? So all nudes and all strong, fit bodies are made to give men erections, and never for art? so she is catering to the male gaze The male gaze is literally focused on children. Schoolgirl uniforms, young teens, innocence, naïveté I’d die of shame before I admitted that as a man but here men are, claiming that a tiny…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:09 PM
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Gosh I wonder why
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:56 PM
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It was never bipartisan. The group was motivated by political and religious conservatism, the Satanic Panic, and was 3:1 Republican to Democrats. Dems are not in favor of censorship, unlike the Far Reich, which is currently engaged in establishing a state news agency, shooting members of the press, and censoring news content on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:49 AM
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A child who posts “Hello, I am a racist, AMA” needs parental supervision as well as help with his mental health. You absolutely do not belong in any conversation among adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:01 AM
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Mainstream music is nicer to women than to men. No one who listens to music could possibly believe this, and that silly Carpenter song isn’t a men’s rights issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:56 AM
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its a bit odd that so much of her imagery is catered towards the male gaze She literally dresses like a child at a fifties slumber party, and her shows are attended by women. Straight men are wildly out of place at her shows and she does nothing to make men feel welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:53 AM
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Bless your heart. There were four founding members of the PMRC, and three are/were Republican. I suppose you simply forgot to mention conservative Republican Pam Howar, conservative Republican Susan Baker, and conservative Republican Sally Nevis? You can literally Google As can you, but you didn’t, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:51 AM
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I checked your post history and see zero complaints about how music portrays and talks about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:42 AM
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You are in way over you head if you think Reddit or this sub in particular is an appropriate place for a religious crusade.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:36 AM
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I don’t consider consensual porn, video games/books/movies based in fictional worlds, or songs to be immoral. Why would I? This you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:33 AM
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Perhaps you should stick to non secular music, can’t imagine you have anything to contribute to a discussion of modern pop music.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:27 AM
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Do you have a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:23 AM
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It isn’t women’s fault men sexually harass women. They also sexually harass kids, and that isn’t the kids’ fault for existing, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:18 AM
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Don’t tell them, they will assume that is a documentary instead of satire. It’s not like the men displaying prudish attitudes actually know or care about music anyway, they are just fixated on the idea of “fairness”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:16 AM
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No idea what you are referring to, conservatives famously destroyed free speech by forcing artists and industry to censor and post warning labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:14 AM
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I would blame men for harassing her. I also blame men for man on man violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:12 AM
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I’m assuming (hoping) that most men whining about this are under fifty, but there are most definitely some geriatric men in this sub who like to forget that Little Richard sang about fucking Lucille in the fifties, that Dion was calling Sue a whore, and that The Stones wanted to dominate and control women in Under My Thumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:11 AM
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Thousands of young men have been rapping about bitches, whores, violence, and pussy for fifty years, I think men will be okay if an 80 pound blond makes fun of irresponsible men who suck in bed in a cheeky, non-violent fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:00 AM
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I would accept the fact that a woman who is dressed “immodestly” is more likely to encounter street harassment from men. But how about you just stick to what you learned in Statistics? Surely you don’t need your hand held.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:54 AM
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No, victim blaming is something else. I’m explaining cause and effect, which you should already know as part of your Into to Statistics class. If you’re male, tall, and fit, you are more of a target than women because people want to pick a fight with you to show how tough they are. Right, so a man who is aware of his vulnerability to violence should take precautions to avoid that and stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:38 AM
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It isn’t my reason, it’s a problem defined by statisticians. Women are more likely to be in the home pregnant, nursing, and raising children and taking care of family and domestic duties. Women are more likely to take precautions and avoid the criminal element. Men are more likely to abuse substances and sell substances. Men are more likely to go to places where alcohol is served and tension is high. Men are more likely to participate in gang activity. Men are more likely to participate in risk-…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:28 AM
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Everyone knows that, and everyone knows why.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:17 AM
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Haven’t been on this sub long, huh? Red and black pilled men are obsessed with women’s virginity. It’s their favorite topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:51 AM
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Women were virgins on their wedding night because they were dating men on an appropriate timeline. Old virgin men don’t get young virgin brides.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:43 AM
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Men are available to women, no idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:37 AM
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A century ago, men weren’t suffering from arrested development at alarming rates, they courted and proposed before age 20. Not women’s fault men can’t get their shit together and choose video games over a healthy social trajectory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:20 AM
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Within weeks, she was okay with unprotected sex You mean you are okay with the consequences of unprotected sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:18 AM
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The only fact in this conversation is that a man’s health does not depend on a woman providing sexual gratification for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:15 AM
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Lying to a woman and claiming that a man’s physical health depends on her providing sexual gratification and amping it up by claiming he will literally die of cancer if she doesn’t provide sexual gratification or sex acts for him is horrific. Abusive, dark, and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:13 AM
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You think that’s worse than the men who can’t find anyone to tolerate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:40 PM
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Currently having three conversations with men who admit they manipulate women to get what they want at her expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:18 PM
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Why would she date a similar man? Women aren’t self destructive. If she’s sexualy frustrated and shamed by her partner, she sure af isn’t going to choose another man like that, she’s going for a better man. But he is unwilling or unable to overcome his inhibitions, so he’s stuck desperately searching for an equally inhibited woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:16 PM
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I don’t accept that at all. As others said, men stop loving women the moment the baby requires her focus, if she gets sick, if she loses her hair or shaves her head, if she joins or leaves a church he doesn’t approve of, if she loses interest in sex… men can switch from allegiance to hatred with little provocation. Men care only about women so long as they remain sexually attractive and sexually attentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:14 PM
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You mean where women cate, at their own expense to the base desires they can handle themselves. Tell everyone more about how little you think of women and what you feel women’s “duty” to men is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:12 PM
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Check the divorce rates. She will leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:02 PM
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Facts don’t care about men’s manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:01 PM
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Sexual function isn’t necessary to men’s prostate and testicular health. Sperm can be offloaded by masturbation, but most men don’t like having to do it. Tough shit. That isn’t women’s responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:57 PM
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Chivalry is performative, it’s competitive. It has fuck-all to do with sincerity or care for women and everything to do with competing with other men and convincing women to date them. Women have always known chivalry is performative because it stops the moment he marries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:56 PM
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Wrong, but this is a method of manipulating and lying to gullible, vulnerable women in order to coerce them into giving their bodies to men whether they are aroused or not. Pretty gross lies, though. Self serving and sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:47 PM
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Nah. Science and medicine exist, the claim that sex is necessary for men’s health is lubricious and frankly hilarious. Monks and priests enjoy longevity well beyond that of partnered men. Sperm can be offloaded via masturbation as often as men feel the urge, and no woman is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:45 PM
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First class men were happy to let third class men die.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:42 PM
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Baffles me when men pretend they “cherish and love” women they want to possess but don’t care about at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:32 PM
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Masturbation and wet dreams are sufficient. A man doesn’t require a partner to offload aging sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:16 PM
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Men that don’t have good sexual health habits are more likely to have ED at an earlier age, more likely to get prostate cancer, die of hear disease, sleep less… there are lists out there, but mostly they are less able have sexual relationships later in life. Some need medication for nearly every sexual encounter. Ohhhh this explains it all. A lack of sex doesn’t affect men’s prostate or chances of cancer AT ALL. Ejaculation is sufficient, and men aren’t even required to masturbate, as nocturnal …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:15 PM
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Frankly unsure what your reply has to do with my original comment. How does it pertain to your claims at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:10 PM
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Empathy is a skill. As are logic, reason, and accountability. God forbid someone ask you to note the models and media figures from the 90s who were not Kate Moss
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:09 PM
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I have no problem acknowledging toxic fads. I do have a problem with people who claim absolutes. “Heroin chic” was eclipsed by the introduced of Anna Nicole Smith, Calista Flockheart, Nikki and Christy Taylor, and the dozens of other models with healthy breasts, hips, and muscle tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:07 PM
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clearly lack an understanding of social psychology At what point to do people admit they were susceptible to fads instead of following a scientific and medical path to good health? Because I somehow managed to survive the 00s without paying for a Brazilian Butt Lift, a cancerous tan, hair extensions, or bonded teeth. You’re welcome to glorify the 90s I didn’t do that, did I?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:04 PM
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Your loaded question makes no sense. The men who feel that sexual health is a human issue are doing just fine. I don’t care what happens to men who feel that women’s sexuality is something which needs to be squelched and shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:51 PM
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Yeah, no. This is horseshit. Fads do not represent the choices of healthy people, and the average mentally healthy woman is not a victim of stupid fads. If she or he is illogical and susceptible to pseudoscience, that’s a them problem. The average man or woman has access to cites, science, resources, and doctors who can help them maintain a healthy body, even if the admit a lack of self control and autonomy. Also Demi Moore is a fucking mess, I used her as an example of a strong, fit woman for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:46 PM
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If he’s insecure and blames her for his “sexual health”, then yes, his “happiness” occurs at her expense. If he can’t figure his shit out on his own and deal with his own decisions and actions, he has no business punishing a more experienced partner for his willful missteps and inhibitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:44 PM
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“Detoxing” is the new “crash diet”, and pseudoscience and grifter horseshit is never going away. You referred to the heroin chic fad, which consisted of a couple drug addicted models. At the same time, Calista Flockheart, Nikki Taylor, Christy Turlington, Claudia Schiffer, and Anna Nicole Smith were fit and had a healthy enough weight for C and D cup breasts. You’re not even acknowledging crash dieting and its chokehold on the culture Why would I acknowledge a fad, when the same fads happen ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:40 PM
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So you don’t wanna talk about the disgust women feel for men who they aren’t attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:06 PM
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Disordered eating still exists in mentally ill people. But the 80s and 90s celebrated fitness. Aerobics was a whole theme and fad, and body building and fitness contests were more popular then than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:05 PM
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…? Where did I or anyone else claim that attractive women don’t get attention? Beautiful women get attention from men they find appealing, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:02 PM
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She likes making money, I promise she’s disgusted by most of the men who lust after her. Have no men here ever seen an AMA or confessional by female sex content creators? They are disgusted to horrified by attention and contact with men they’d never date and are repelled by. The most successful OF women pay someone else (frequently a man) to respond to male commentary because it grosses them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:48 PM
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My older siblings are from that era. There was no computer lethargy, food was healthier, and the focus was on physical health. I also know who Grace Jones is. Linda Hamilton, Angelina Jolie, Jenny Shimizu, Gabrielle Reece, and Demi More were fit and muscular. I can name a dozen more muscular and fit female icons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:41 PM
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Yeah they do. And men do, too. Plenty of men are desired by gay men, and if they aren’t attracted, it’s meaningless. The only attention which counts is that from people they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:36 PM
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Huh? What happened in the 90s? I can’t find anything you refer to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:27 PM
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A lot of us avoid men for reasons. I haven’t worked out after work on in evenings since I was 17 because weird old men (some of my friends’ fathers and uncles and brothers) made it gross. I go at five, and almost all the patrons are female, and we aren’t doing “cardio”, we use free weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:25 PM
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Yeah that’s what I said. Uptight, repressed men who are afraid and disgusted by human sexuality will be shit in bed and will emotionally and psychologically attempt to shame and control the woman in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:21 PM
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Yeah they do, where are you when they claim “hystobristophilia”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:02 PM
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Burr could write a skit about this. “Hey fellas, ever feel irritated that women get nervous about all the crimes we commit? ☕️ Women, amirite? They act like men mangling, raping, drugging, and murdering them is a Big Problem
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:50 PM
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Hey, buddy. Who commits those crimes against women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:47 PM
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Let’s look at it from the viewpoint of rationality. Every single “true crime” aficionado I have ever known has been female. From an objective point of view, this is a really messed up hobby. Funniest post I’ve ever read on PPD. A man “concerned” about women’s fascination with crime against women, but unconcerned about the MEN WHO COMMIT THE CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN AND PROVIDE THE CONTENT BECAUSE THOSE MEN ARE FUCKING PSYCHOPATHS
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:46 PM
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And women can choose to avoid the men who are disgusted with sex. Asexual people exist, and they can definitely enjoy happy, fulfilling lives with one another if they are honest and decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:43 PM
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Resources, looks, charm =/= being good in bed Nope, not if she still has to endure his clumsy, unsatisfying use of her body. And terpers know this, they never stop whining that women “fuck losers”. Why would women do that? Say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:40 PM
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If he isn’t appealing and fun, he isn’t in a position to choose. And if a woman settles for an unappealing, inhibited and repressed man, all the shaming language and attitudes he brings here will just give her a perfect excuse to avoid sex with him or cheat and leave. This is where repressed men fail horribly. No amount of “nice guy/moral guy” rhetoric is going to disguise his misogyny and disgust with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:38 PM
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You just said that women aren't thinking of just bringing sex to the table and yet the argument falls back to men needing to do a bunch of stuff in exchange for just sex. Why would any woman risk her health and reputation on a man who’s going to be shit in bed? If she’s going to progress to sex in any relationship, she’s going to ensure it happens with someone who will make it worth the risk. And she’s not going to gamble on a man who already admits he thinks less of her the moment she has sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:26 PM
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Yet you disagree with me, who notes that men who are sexually and socially frustrated use hideous and harmful language and views of women, so… Women would rather take their chances with men they actually enjoy than gamble on men who are openly verbally hostile towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:22 PM
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Most guys like that hold conservative views and suffer religious indoctrination.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:19 PM
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It’s not like red pillers are in a position to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:18 PM
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A specific subset of men, not all men. Obviously, as the vast majority of men manage to socialize and date just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:18 PM
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They admit they lack social experience and confess limiting cultural/religious views.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:17 PM
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It’s a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 06:16 PM
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Why evade the question? Where did you get the (wrong) idea that testosterone is solely responsible for motivation and sex drive, and where did you get the stupid idea that women don’t have testosterone? And as a bonus question, women don’t actually want children they don’t want to raise, so what do you think is responsible for the massive number of unplanned pregnancies if not rampant, feral hormones in humans who are not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:59 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:56 PM
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Shit it doesn’t take drinks, just reject one or ask him to back up a little and women find out the truth about how he actually feels about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:54 PM

But women read and consume conservative, ASD, and red pill content and know very well how those men regard women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:53 PM
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Well, yeah, why would any typically developing women want a man who is stewing in misogynistic cult rhetoric, judgmental and sex averse??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:52 PM
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Passive and neurotic = sex averse and fear and disgust of sexuality, especially female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:49 PM
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Teenage boys who spend most of their time indoors and don’t date have centuries old, disgustingly regressive views of women. See: red pill and any and all discussions of “body count”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:49 PM
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Wow, flirty, confident, sexually motivated men get laid more often than repressed, inhibited, and asexual men who are disgusted by female sexuality? Who knew, what a revelation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:47 PM
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Do you? How can men here continue to claim that women don’t have testosterone and other hormones which motivate them towards success and sex? Why do you think women are somehow eager to work, to compete, and to pursue sex and sexual attention? Can’t wait for your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:45 PM
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Do you believe women find older, less attractive and out of touch men are somehow more sexually attractive because they have money?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:43 PM
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Men harm women and children, they don’t protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:40 PM
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Do you actually believe they are sexually attracted? Do you understand what “opportunistic” means?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:40 PM
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Women can easily understand men’s desire for affection and attention, it’s just that they are often so aggressively demanding about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:39 PM
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It’s a shame, because it would remove a lot of the fear and mystery for inexperienced men, and it would dispel the putrid horseshit PUA and TRP tells men about escalation. I’ve seen women slap men and have them thrown out of bars for following those instructions, and I’ve yelled at a couple strangers for touching me when they have no valid reason. If the mods and daily members of this sub wanted to actually help, they’d encourage posts about flirting and sex instead of squelching them. I still g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:38 PM
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No, feminism promotes vigilante justice by filming and posting criminal and antisocial behavior committed by men. Meanwhile red pilled men decry women who film and post antisocial and combative behavior and whine that women are Big Meanies who use social media to defend themselves. Men do nothing to help or protect women unless they are paid to intervene.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:21 AM
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Protect what???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:18 AM
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Jfc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:52 AM
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Date men, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:42 AM
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Yeah but they don’t like people. They don’t want friends, they think they are smarter than everyone else, and they fucking hate women and find women vapid and shallow. Admit freely they “have no use for women” unless those women are providing sex. They don’t want friends, don’t want a social circle, don’t know how to make small talk or flirt, and prefer hacks and cheat codes and compare real life to video games. This is never going to happen for most red pilled men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:28 AM
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I can’t link to posts without witch-hunting, but I’d love to prove you wrong. Literally have five different men here citing some stupid Japanese study that women report being more satisfied in relationships with wealthy men, and since men here tend to misunderstand science, they incorrectly assume that the money is sexually exciting, rather than the confidence and intellect of a successful man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:25 AM
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Huh? The old ones are the primary promoters of money as attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:21 AM
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I agree. But it should be noted because gullible young men don’t realize how certain mods control the narrative by deleting posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:20 AM
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Nah, no. Damn near every red piller and the male mods claim women are sexually attracted to money. When called out about the beta bux thing, the just ignore or delete the posts. This is my second biggest pet peeve here, which I address weekly, so you can easily find men claiming women get turned on by money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:17 AM
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This is the red pill’s primary tenant. Wait until you are older and making good money. Dozens of terpers and the terp mods claim women are sexually attracted to money. Which is ludicrous, IMO, illogical and irrational. But it’s a major red pill directive. So why do terpers recoil if a woman says “well, if you’re ugly or awkward, maybe women will date you for money”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:14 AM
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The red pill promotes financial success and even claims that women are sexually attracted to money. The blue pill emphasizes competence. You switching teams?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:09 AM
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Weird that men forget how often they claim women date “broke losers” and criminals while promoting dangling money in their thirties and forties while claiming that “women are sexually attracted to financially stable older men”. What is the current red pill stance on financial success and women now? Did something change?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:08 AM

Do you read the confessions by men here? Backtrack and look at the posts from the men arguing with me. If she isn’t sexually attracted, he’s still going to expect her to submit and pretend, and if she doesn’t, he’s will abuse her emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:59 PM
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That mod deleted almost all the posts pertaining to sex which pleases women. I’m not a fan of the knee thing, wasn’t raised in a religious environment, but it’s a well known method of warming up younger women when making out. It won’t do any good if I try to explain it, he will just delete it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:56 PM
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I’ve experienced daily love and list, so, no. The thing you describe is manipulation at its least, rape at its worst. I can’t imagine wanting to use another’s frustrated, ungratified body and your description makes me sick. Men here need to confess they don’t care at all about mutual attraction, they care about using a woman’s body. Just drop the “beta bux” complaints and admit none of you care if your partner is excited or gratified.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:22 PM

Not at all. But introverts also become obsessed with the Head Cheerleader and lose their minds when “she can’t see that I’m a Nice Guy she has nothing in common with. When are the introverted men going to admit they have zilch in common with the women they persue?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:18 PM
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Oh. So you don’t know about foreplay? Fingers, tongues, thighs, hands, toys, and knees? There are some prudish mods here who would hide explanations, but women prefer a dozen acts before an erection penetrating their vagina. I’ll describe them, but a couple mods will likely delete them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:15 PM

Yes, because as was said, the only unit of value you understand is sex. Apparently your home language lacks the concept of compatibility. If a strange man approaches a stranger, he’s only doing it because of sexual attraction, since he doesn’t know her. Do you need a working translation of compatibility and rapport?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:13 PM
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You can’t be a hater, you are beautiful and you can ask me to delete this and I will, but I believe you’ve been abused by an opportunistic woman. Surely you can see how women perceive you IRL, you are prettier than most of us. Evopsych is the problem. Modern humans are cursed with thousands of years of religion and oppression/repression. None of us can be compared to apes. Evopsych is grifter psyops designed to misdirect gullible men with a religious or same sex education.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:10 PM
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All of these are male specific and catered to the male sexual experience. What percentage of vibrators and dildoes both presently and historically have been manufactured for and sold to women? Why would women masturbate so much if they didn’t possess a sex drive? And since women can have sex whenever they like, why would they choose masturbation instead if men weren’t shit partners? they often walk away thinking just because a man orgasms it was a 10/10 sexual experience Tell me how it feels to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 10:38 PM
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Again, if someone who was formerly engaged and enthusiastic stops seeking sex, and they aren’t ill, the problem isn’t with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:22 PM

Do you believe that attractive and semi attractive women enjoy having sex with clumsy, unattractive men? If they did, wouldn’t they date those men? Do sex workers call men and beg them to come back for free visits?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:19 PM

You haven’t shown any statistics. Where is the actual study?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:55 PM

I can assure you there are many people in long term relationships who are having sex with a disengaged, unexcited person’s body. I agree, and those people are sociopathic. I can also assure you there are many people who have been with sex workers that were at the very least engaged. Imagine someone so unappealing they have to resort to a sex worker, trying to arouse her. I feel certain that’s the last thing a sex worker wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:54 PM
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It's not that all those people are bad, it's simply that those who they see that are bad and successful mostly have those traits. What traits do introverted murderers, rapists, and school shooters have in common?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:48 PM

What makes you assume ditch diggers and crime scene cleaners don’t love ringing up customers and would do it for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:47 PM
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I disagree with both your experience and your claims. But let’s assume I do believe you. Do you have a cohesive argument as to why men don’t just fuck one another?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:02 PM
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You’d be surprised at the candor and bullshit when women discuss sex, too. Neither indicate how individuals actually act when dating. Upvoting even though I disagree with this post because I apparently doomed you when I mentioned how pretty you are. And I’ll delete this post in a couple minutes, too, because red/black pill men are haters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:39 PM

If someone has to be paid to have sex with a man, they aren’t attracted to that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:38 PM

Because sex is a mutually gratifying act unless on partner is a complete sociopath
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:35 PM
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More projection from you. Did you already forget the insult you posted an hour ago? yourself to feel better about them being on the back of your trading card Do you own a mirror? Maybe look in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:00 PM

I understand, but that’s a different conversation. Doesn’t do any good to be angry that women prefer attractive men, since men also prefer attractive women. Human nature isn’t anything to waste time railing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:58 PM
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I’m not a fan of any soft science. I just assumed you making this personal is projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:53 PM
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Your posts aren’t a confession?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:43 PM

The vast majority of a sex worker’s job is acting. I don’t believe men are so stupid they actually believe she’s enjoying acts she must be paid to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:41 PM

Of course not. If she were attracted to that man, she’d do it for free. Manipulating her body in a shitty attempt to pretend he cares is gross. She still requires mutual attraction for gratification, she isn’t a sex toy, she’s a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:40 PM

Because having sex with a disengaged, unexcited person’s body is a sociopathic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:37 PM

I’m not insecure, I’ve never had the problems you describe. I’ve never been in a relationship in which I wasn’t sexually desired. But then again, I’ve never misrepresented myself or displayed incompetence. I’ve never pursued sex with someone who was busy or distracted or ill, because I’m not an idiot like some men who assume their erection is more important than whatever a woman is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:35 PM

Of course it isn’t. But ugly people cannot reasonably expect the same results as attractive people. We each play the hand we are dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:32 PM
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Nope. If a man presented a far more competent and appealing version of himself in the early stages, he committed fraud and he gets what he deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:22 PM

The halo effect is real. Attractive people have better social skills because they have an easier life, and people with an easier life have more opportunities to develop social skills. There isn’t any valid reason to hate or focus on those people or regard them as villains. It’s not their fault they were born pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:20 PM

Whatever you gotta tell yourself to feel better about them being on the back of your trading card. Your insult was removed. I don’t have casual sex. But I can objectively describe the appeal of men who don’t hate women vs men who actively hate women because of massive insecurity and puritanical views. It seems like men should want to explore and understand the reasons certain men are popular and successful and why some men are not. I At what point in this sub do we get to address men’s trauma di…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:19 PM
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If the woman who loves him doesn’t find him sexually desirable, perhaps he should address that before trying to convince another woman he’s fun in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:54 PM

They aren’t losers. They are fun and appealing, usually funny and good at flirting and good in bed. It’s weird when men feel they are in a position to judge men they aren’t dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:31 PM
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You’ve reached the point of confession, and I’m pulling back. I’ve never experienced what you describe in any relationship. But the moment a man proves he’s dependent and incompetent, I lose all attraction and leave. If a man chooses to remain with a woman who is no longer actively interested in sex with him, the onus is on him to recognize what changed and go back to the man he presented in the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:24 PM
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Because the only unit of value that women understand is sex Ha ha, no. It’s not limited to sex. The classmate/coworker she isn’t interested in, isn’t compatible with, and isn’t attracted to is equal to the homeless old guy because she isn’t going to date either one and neither one cares about her happiness and fulfillment. So their unwanted attention is equally worthless. Not quite. It’s because men are less privileged than women, and don’t chase social status like women do. It’s because men don…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:21 PM
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Sometimes those loud attention seekers are just fun and extroverted, they aren’t all a menace. Problem is that introverts regard all loud and outgoing people as bad, and the most inexperienced introverts believe that emulating the worst traits is how to succeed. They fail to see the good traits, it’s a real problem I haven’t seen anyone address in pop psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:14 PM

If you’re attractive, sure. If you’re geriatric, have a shit body and awkward posture, and sporting a shitty, embarrassing toupee, makeup, high heels, and a diaper… Tinder is not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:35 PM
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She says hormones and the male sex drive are psuedoscience. Wow, dishonest much? The horseshit about women being solely driven by reactive desire is the pseudoscience. Healthy, typically developing women have their own desire for sex, masturbate, and have wet dreams even in the absence of males.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:34 PM
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Cry laughing. Women are the primary reason men go to the gym and they show off like little boys seeking attention when women are present.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:32 AM
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Is there something wrong with your keyboard?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:56 AM
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They should ignore basic life skills that men (and women) do when they live alone. But it’s only men seeking extra credit and sexual favors for washing a dish. Did you misunderstand my post? Take care of shit which needs to be done without being asked or begging for extra credit since you’d do the same thing when living alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:29 AM
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Who in this sub are “Stacie’s”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:27 AM
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So…maybe say it more often, and not to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:26 AM
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Incompetence and entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:25 AM
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🤣 The manosphere is a bitch fest filled with disaffected men from all over the globe. You’re participating in it right now, and frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:22 AM
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Did you forget to switch usernames or what
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:22 AM
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Yep. You can find them in colleges all over the US, despite the political shitstorm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:20 PM
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This place informs most women to avoid or postpone marriage as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:19 PM
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We have to love and respect them, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:18 PM
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I already have three voluntary paid jobs, zero desire to take care of a grown man for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:18 PM
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Already gave you two examples of the fervor in your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:16 PM
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However, culture (or more specifically Western culture) smothers this and labels males who are too colourful and theatrical as gay or effeminate, and especially where maleness is seen as innately dirty and impure, wants the males to be as bland and "stoic" as possible. Oh come on. Be specific. It’s conservative/socio political control, not “culture” at large. The strongest, most successful males are still the loudest, most conspicuous, exhausting men who make terrific noise for attention. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:15 PM
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Birds aren’t strictly monogamous, and every species has sneaker males, cucks, and females which stray.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:12 PM
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It hasn’t? Males prove their fitness across species, and women must exercise caution to avoid predation on them and their young.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:11 PM
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You must be new here. This is pretty much all I ever talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:10 PM
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Oh… so men here actually do understand that women don’t want to have bad sex with men they aren’t attracted to. I didn’t know any red pilled men understood this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:09 PM
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You’re comparing sociopaths with the general population? Yeah, that tracks for red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:44 PM
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The idea that men assume that great sex is somehow a massive loss for women…🤣 I don’t have casual sex and have never experienced the disappointment of losing a terrific fuck, but I’m certain the terrific fuck is a far better experience than suffering through terrible, ungratifying sex with a self professed nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:41 PM
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Do any terpers realize that fantastic sex is better than terrible, ungratifying sex with a man she isn’t attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:40 PM
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The discrepancy isn’t because women don’t like their options. The weird doofus in management might have more money than the homeless guy at the bus stop, but if she isn’t attracted, those two men are equals. Their sexual attention is equally repulsive. But many if not most men will have sex with a woman they find unattractive or even repulsive, because they are not hardwired with the fear and disgust which behooves women to choose healthy, fit, attractive partners with social status and social s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:38 PM
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You: I don't think you know where the name "Red Pill" itself comes from. And what does a name that can be confused with almost nothing have to do with how flawed the "movement" is ? I don't think you're talking about the "real" "original" Red Pill theory... But why do you claim what you claim? What is the basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:26 PM
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No one. Who hurt you and what is your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:23 PM
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Testerone creates spontaneous sexual desire (i.e- being turned on without being erect) until you realize how this affects men & their views on sex values and relationships it is difficult to fully emphasize because YOU aren't the one experiencing the struggle. I despise pseudoscience so I’ll try my best to be civil. Testosterone is not the sole factor in sexual arousal, women not on hormonal birth control or repressed by cultural or religious indoctrination are viciously interested in sex around…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:20 PM
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broadly because I’m writing a book on dating “ The Big Idea. A leader or leaders propose a new transcendent idea that promises a panacea solution for alienated and vulnerable people. This big idea promises to solve all problems; to end loneliness, isolation, and a sense of personal failure. It makes vague promises of meaning and salvation.” These posts are the number one sign of cult adherence. I’m a the expert, critics are wrong about “us” and wrong about “tenet”, I’m writing a book, I’m the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 05:58 PM
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Red pill adherents and grifters use pseudoscience and conspiracy to support their claims, and merrily misstate statistics and confuse ragebait with actual scientific study. It’s indefensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:30 PM
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Men do however need women for sex and that's generally something not negotiable for long term relationships. Is this a confession that men don’t care if she enjoys it or not? That men don’t care if she’s lost attraction, and will continue to use her body as a sex toy regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:26 PM
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You don’t realize each of your posts supports the dogma and the talking heads? You literally copied a well known universal indicator of a cult by pretending it’s a super secret cabal of informed men who are too deep to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:56 PM
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just as long as it’s not her who ends up with the dude. Depends. If he’s this dude: they don’t have the market share on manipulation anymore. They absolutely do not. If he’s just a late bloomer who decided to improve his life and his attitude: they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:54 PM
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Women don't get "turned on" by a good functioning household or family harmony. This is hilarious. Do you think women are excited about sex with an incompetent man who behaves like an entitled teenager? What wife craves sex after laundering his shitstained underwear? If the man who makes up 50% of that relationship (& possibly 100% of the income) is fundamentally unhappy with their sex life than the harmony will be disrupted. The cognitive dissonance in this post. If the woman who makes up 50% of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:52 PM
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Women aren’t mad that unpopular men seek self improvement. Women are disgusted by the gullibility of men who are so susceptible to conspiracy and grift.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:39 PM
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Save your preaching for someone else, I’m fit and young, and I have a high libido and happiest with daily sex in a long term relationship. I was very clear. Companionship and domestic responsibilities are requirements of adults in a relationship. Those are mutually beneficial activities and efforts which strengthen the bond and create harmony. The one sided use of another’s unexcited body creates discord, and humping away in a sweaty frenzy while the other person is not turned on or worse, feels…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:37 PM
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That’s funny, didn’t know who that was. Turns out she is also a red pill grifter, what a traitor to women and an enemy of men who are susceptible to rage bait. Simply awful person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:29 PM
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I don’t see grift for women because like everyone else, I teach my algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:28 PM
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Not at all concerned with anyone who “checks out”. I took a year off from dating and it was blissfully peaceful. Highly recommend focusing on self improvement now and then. I care because of men who poison the well harm other vulnerable, gullible men. We should all be united with hatred towards grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:48 PM
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It’s “stop wasting your time contingency planning and start living”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:03 PM
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Live as thought you would in your own house, alone. You aren’t there to “help out”, you are there to share a life and do what needs to be done. Don’t wait to be asked. If you see dirty dishes, do them and put them away. Walk the dog. Pull the weeds. Clean the fridge. Wash the windows. Buy extra toothpaste, toilet paper, cooking supplies. And don’t report these obvious tasks, it’s not extra credit. It’s called being a competent adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:58 AM
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Why in the world would you bring the term “evidence” into this discussion? TRP is a demented game of telephone started by a handful of unscrupulous grifters. There may have been an original plan to offer for-pay advice to socially clumsy young men, but it’s been nothing but a demented game of telephone for a decade. It’s a clusterfuck of individually isolated and insulated teens and men discussing all the ways women ruin their lives, while furtively beating off to women at the same time. It’s Ae…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:49 AM
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I don't think you know where the name "Red Pill" itself comes from. Numerous statements like this pretend “insider information”, which is one of the hallmarks of cult affiliation. Everyone knows where the same come from, everyone can see red pill drivel on social media. It’s not a secret society. It’s not classified intel. It’s some disaffected kids who lean heavy into the ASD spectrum and tend towards planning rather than doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:44 AM
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It’s about understanding the real mating game, shaped by both evolution and culture. The pseudoscience is meaningless, it’s nothing but a device grifters use to sound like experts. Directing vulnerable, gullible young men away from science and common sense is criminal. The red pill is like any other cult: the most conspicuous members define the credo, and that creed consists of complaining about women while strategizing how to get female validation. Everyone besides red pill devotees recognizes …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:36 AM
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No, he’s exceptionally pretty, and several women agreed. He can barely post here now, because men here don’t just treat women poorly, they treat attractive and desirable men like lepers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:59 AM
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It’s incredibly unlikely that a man willing to hump a disinterested partner’s body for his sole gratification is capable of providing anything resembling emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:23 AM
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One of those relates to the functioning of a household and the harmony of the family, the other is a self-centered sense of entitlement to another’s body, whether the other person enjoys it or not. Something is horribly lacking in men’s sex education, someone’s forgotten to tell men that sex is a mutually gratifying act for two people. Who is telling men that they have the right to hump a partner like a dog humps a pillow?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:34 AM
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Because the idea of humping someone’s disengaged and disinterested body in an excited frenzy is abhorrent. Sex is for two people, and if one party isn’t equally sexually excited, it’s not much different than having sex (or use the other word) with an unconscious person. I’d die of embarrassment if not of shame, knowing that a partner was lying there unaroused, unexcited, and simply going through the motions in hopes the other person would just get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:24 AM
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Are you implying that she isn’t also meeting her husband’s financial and emotional needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:22 AM
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Sex as I experience it does not include using someone’s body as a sex aid, regardless of aftercare. If my partner isn’t as excited as I am, I’m not touching them until we are on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:20 AM
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You already established an affinity for outliers in the previous post, no need to double down. The point is that women generally prefer men with big, strong, masculine features and attributes, in exactly the same way men prefer women who are sexually dimorphic. And there isn’t anything wrong with this, it’s how natural selection worked before political power forced the subjugation of weaker people. Before you bring up outliers a third time, obviously there are men and women who have preferences …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:16 AM
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Presumably both provide emotional and support needs for each other, that’s the purpose of any partnership. We play to one another’s strengths and weaknesses as one of the many ways to actively love. But the person wiling to use another’s disengaged, disinterested body for their sole gratification is a mentally disturbed monster in my eyes, so this isn’t a dialogue I’m interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:07 PM
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The person wiling to use another’s disengaged, disinterested body for their sole gratification is a monster in my eyes, so this isn’t a dialogue I’m interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:05 PM
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Women have always have physical preferences, and fit, tall, strong, competent men with attractive, masculine features have always been the general preference, not sure why you are pretending this is news. The presence of a few exceptionally attractive, talented, and charismatic outliers doesn’t change the norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:57 PM
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They enforce duty sex and scheduled sex and throw a huge fit if anything interferes. Same thing is mentioned here constantly: men claim their wives are obligated to provide sex whether she’s inclined or not. The same men who claim that they have a high libido, explain that she’s bound by her vows to provide sex since the terms of monogamy dictate he can’t get it anywhere else, and they also proudly boast about denying affection and conversation since “my needs are getting met.” Find it very hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:38 PM
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The most important aspect of having responsibility for others is the ability to cooperate and consider others. In the same sense, an only child is often spoiled and self centered, where a child with multiple siblings is better prepared to work with others, to share, to sacrifice to help others. The amount of happiness or stress a man has doesn’t determine his maturity, his ability to live with consideration and care for others does. His ability to adapt to stress or change indicates his maturity…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:35 PM
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Yes, and socialization. Our language doesn’t just describe our behavior, it also dictates it. “Boys will be boys” carries weight well into the college years, and boys are permitted to get away with antisocial behavior which would get girls kicked out of school and church. Boys play sports in evenings and holidays while girls clean up. (Not in my house, but I certainly saw it with classmates and neighbors). Girls are raised with warnings to conceal their bodies and guard against creepy men as soo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:12 PM
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The humiliation and psychological domination is part of the appeal for those men. The marriage and dead bedroom subs are filled with monsters who are positively gleeful that their partner either submits or faces punishment via emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:07 PM
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Losing hairs isn't a sign of being a bad person yet so many view it that way because of how we portray them. Pick a topic. Is it sexual attraction, or values? If we can already stop this then it's a start. And again, that is just one example. That’s a very good idea, but I doubt it will work. Women have generational trauma from being criticized for looks, it’s unlikely women are willing to let go of the option to speak about men the way men speak about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:02 PM
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And, since about every women on this sub are always hellbent to remind us you’re supposed to do more than just fun things with them. Men will do anything except take care of their own home once a woman moves in, including taking care of another man’s home. In fact I’m fairly certain that women are removing the fun out of anything merely by coming near it. If that happens, it’s because men refuse to take care of themselves and their homes and families like functional adults and leave everything t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:21 PM
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And you think that short, skinny, weak chinned, unfit myopic balding men can somehow come into vogue? Can somehow trigger attention in women? Do you know what the ideal male sex symbols looked like throughout the decades you refer to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:07 PM
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Can’t tell if you are joking, but the White House is filled with sundowning methuselahs hell bent on destroying the country for their own financial gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 03:44 PM
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Is it hypocritical to decline cabbage while eating lettuce? Are cabbage and lettuce the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 03:43 PM
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He’s done his part to pay a sex worker, he has not done his part to prove he’s a competent man deserving of respect and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:26 PM
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You’re not a fan of the Revolutionary War? That’s peculiar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:13 PM
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Oh, I dunno. Kick them off Medicare, restrict college grants and loans, and remove food subsidies, and force them to work until 80, where they perish from stress? We don’t have to worry if they drop like flies due to the Big Beautiful Plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:11 PM
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Nothing stopping you paying for a beautiful young woman to pretend she’s attracted. Prostitution is a job for certain types of women. I don’t personally know any with the stomach for it, but they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:04 PM
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No, women are attracted to competent men, and disgusted by incompetence. Odd that this is so difficult for men to understand, since men’s entire modus operandi when dating is to break their fucking necked trying to demonstrate how capable and competent they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:23 AM
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It isn’t a different set of “rules”, it’s a different man. Women are allowed to prefer attention from men they are attracted to and reject men they are not. Women are not required to date every man who approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:18 AM
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I’ve seen one woman make that claim, and dozens of men express disgust and horror with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:14 AM
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Women don’t like having sex with a man who behaves as a child. Men rather seem to enjoy their Oedipal bent, but it grosses women the fuck out. Men who behave like competent adults get laid. No one cares if men who behave like dependent children pout.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:14 AM
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And none of those things stopped happening when women were in charge either. When was that? Again, women are not paragons of virtue. Comparatively speaking…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:12 AM
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You realize this isn’t any better, right? Downplaying sex doesn’t alleviate the confession that men will settle for anyone just to avoid being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:43 AM
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The point was that if a multitude of societies came to the same conclusions regarding women, it wasn’t a mere coincidence. A multitude of societies also enslaved people, destroyed cultural, languages, art, and artifacts. Raped children and forced marriages. Sent men to die in wars, ritualistically castrated little boys to make them sing pretty. Civilization comes from taming and controlling nature. Ha. See above for what happens when men are in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:42 AM
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Women aren’t concerned about being excluded, it’s unlikely a man with these inhibitions is a good match, anyway. The point is that the men who are fixated read as asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:11 PM
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which is comply unavailable both physically & emotionally. Red pill revenge fantasies aren’t relevant to women’s desire for mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:51 PM
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I realize you’re joking; but you are aware that many men here actually believe she’s attracted to that clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:23 PM
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Men’s indiscriminate sexual behavior is not a valid measure of women’s prerogative to select the healthiest, most compatible and attractive partner they can pull. And trust me when I inform you that men do not want women to behave indiscriminately, i.e. like men. Men are already pee-pants terrified of women with sexual experience, the very last thing those men should want is for women to become more promiscuous. Better thank your lucky stars that women are discriminating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:22 PM
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The "rhetoric" doesn't invalidate the effectiveness of the advice. First of all, get your physical and mental health sorted is not universal advice, it’s common sense. No one needs to tell men with working eyes and mirrors that women prefer attractive men. Everything after that is the horseshit rhetoric which turns the pills into a cult. Men take the most basic life skills and add pseudoscience and grift to turn the red pill from useful tips to toxic vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:18 PM
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Assuming that a woman can tolerate awful sex with a man who hunches away on her body in a frenzied sweat for even a year is a bridge too far. She absolutely must be sexually attracted, even if the mutual interest wanes later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:44 PM
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That’s why they incorrectly assume that sex isn’t important to women, because women have discriminating tastes. When they finally grow up and discover that women do possess a sex drive, it scrambles their brains and they lash out with shaming language and name calling in an attempt to kill it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:41 PM
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She offered friendship. Not her fault he misrepresented his intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:29 PM
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Looks like she was getting exactly what she wanted. Good for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:28 PM
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Annnd there it is. It took 11 minutes to disprove men’s virtue signaling “but but most men are attracted to most women”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:05 PM
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One would have to have an unparalleled level of egocentricity to think they know better than millennia’s of people. Oh? Which is it? Are you celebrating the patriarchy and the rules which subjugate women? Or pretending it doesn’t exist? Because your earlier post praising the patriarchy was positively reverent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:04 PM
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most men like most women sexually. Wanna gamble on this? Hey fellas, Taylor Swift is the most beautiful woman on the planet, isn’t she? Her face and body literally perfect in every way. She’s like a living Barbie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:26 PM
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My point is that women are more shallow, because men are more willing to overlook things they don’t like in a woman to have sex and relationships with them. Can’t believe you published that self own. Imagine admitting to being so desperate to get sex that men will fuck women they find unattractive and pretending it’s a virtue 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:24 PM
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If it were successful, lab partner, men wouldn’t have a loneliness epidemic now would we. Men wouldn’t be stumbling clumsily through dating apps and screeching about women on social media. But I believe you have a blind spot. You might want to remember who controls the masses (the wealthy) and how the wealthy control the masses (via mite). Men who believe themselves to be the masters of their domain are fools unless they wear the crown. IOW: y’all ain’t never been in charge. Men obediently and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:20 PM
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Is this the part where a woman has to explain again that the red pill is a cult partially cribbed from general advice which applies to everyone everywhere of every age? If I refer to red/black pills, I’m referring to the rhetoric, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:13 PM
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Women don’t experience this red pill revenge fantasy, but just for funsies, let’s pretend it happens occasionally. Waiting for commitment while having fantastic sex beats the shit out of enduring decades of awkward and unsatisfying sex with a man she isn’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:11 PM
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It’s male egocentrism. Mark believes his attention is a gift and a privilege. But Mark’s unwanted attention as equal to the unwanted attention of the homeless bum at the gas station. We seem to be trapped in the same awkward space as Copernicus, who realized that the universe doesn’t revolve around what men think it revolves around. Centuries of political and physical dominion over women poisoned their brains. They simply can’t conceive of a world in which a man’s feelings and desire aren’t the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:08 PM
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I’m applying logic and reason, which has nothing to do with pill horseshit. The pills are responsible for the neutering I referred to. It doesn’t matter how physically fit and well groomed a man is, if his brain is castrated by stupid pill rhetoric which leads to emasculating terror of female sexuality. By the time a man emerges from the puritanical soup which is the red pill, his sexual identity is gone. He reads as asexual; as awkward and repressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:53 PM
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Not sure if you are deliberately evasive or if you really don’t get the point. A man who doesn’t care if his romantic or sexual interest is returned is an immature and selfish emotional child. Why do so many men make romantic and sexual overtures towards women who don’t desire them at all? If he is a good partner, her desires and her happiness are equally important to his own. Since he was rejected and flounced out like a petulant child, he clearly never cared about anything except his sole feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:49 PM
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Begin by removing the multi-faceted stigma conservative and religious men attach to female sexuality, because their reservations hamper their own sexual expression and women don’t see them as masculine or sexually attractive. Men neutered themselves with their illogical fears of female sexuality and with their clumsy attempts to control women via shaming language and paternalistic attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:42 PM
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Why would he tell her that? If he’s minding his manners and behaving morally, his past feelings are irrelevant. He can’t have what he wants She isn’t a “what”, she’s a who. And if he actually cared for her, her feelings are equally important. Why do men so often desire women who don’t desire them? The answer is in your language. Because men don’t consider women’s feelings at all. Men only care about what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:38 PM
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over-valuation of superficial traits, under-valuation of long-term compatibility The only way a marriage retains longevity is if both partners are either mutually attracted, or both are asexual. No woman will be happy providing her body for the sole gratification of a man she isn’t sexually attracted to. Strangest thing about red/black pilled men: they admittedly select and pursue women based on sexual attraction to her appearance, yet pretend women are superficial if they reject men based on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:29 PM
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There are no victims, but there is one entitled, self-centered man who does not know what love is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:21 PM
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It confirms the OP. Men assume the world should revolve around them and their feelings and give little to know consideration of women’s feelings. If she were your friend, you’d want her to date a man who makes her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:29 PM
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He doesn’t care what she wants, doesn’t care about her happiness at all, only his own. People who care about their friends want them to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:23 PM
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The discussion is about men not liking women’s company unless those women provide sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:22 PM
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It doesn’t matter if he wants sex or a Hallmark romance, since he doesn’t care about her happiness at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:21 PM
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But I just wanted someone to like me, So you were only “friends” with them because you wanted their romantic or sexual interest
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:15 PM
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This is off topic. The discussion is about men who don’t like women and seek only sex, but not companionship from women. And I don’t have any divorced friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:03 PM
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If he turned out to be a needy, dependent, helpless man who pretends women are his saviors and persecutors , maybe less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:01 PM
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I’m not single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:37 PM
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Every woman I know who divorced a man who didn’t enjoy her company left for a man who does enjoy the company of women. Word to the wise, men who hate women. She will divorce you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:35 PM
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What is an elder doing in a dating sub? Why does this place attract so many middle aged and elderly men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:32 PM
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I volunteer for possibly the same agency, and the men here pretend they are doing disadvantaged women coming from developing countries a huge favor by enslaving them. Those women are streetwise and experienced and suffer no illusions they are being rescued by a benevolent Disney prince. They know exactly who is purchasing their services and allegiance, and very few stay with those men (PPBs) who are excited about exploiting “vulnerable” women. When women escape those predators, they aren’t asham…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:30 PM
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a three-day work week They are twelve hour shifts, lab partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:11 PM
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You must have attended an all boys school, so how would you know about the typical school experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:10 PM
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Sure, if everyone is fully informed, adults who enjoy casual sex and mutual attraction should do as they please. Almost all the men I associate with are closer to your description than any other. Men who like women: get laid. No woman here believes the bullshit red/black pillers claim that Chad hates women and is the ultimate misogynist. We know they are lying anyway because they aren’t actually spending time with men who seek and enjoy the company of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:07 PM
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The only reason I did it was to aggravate the dozens of terpers who screech “only woman who are fat, ugly, or old argue with men here”. Turns out, I didn’t have to gamble on it. All I had to do was point out how ridiculously attractive one of the male users here is, and the fat, ugly, and older terpers immediately started down voting all his posts even though he’s a terper just like you people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:39 PM
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Such cattiness. Then how do you explain all the ugly men who feel it necessary to comment on the women who have smaller breasts and behinds? You know this has nothing whatsoever to do with plastic surgery, but you definitely added a data point. I’ll ask you directly: Why are unattractive and old men so very convinced that their opinion of women’s faces or bodies matter at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:27 PM
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I have no idea what anything in the above post is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:10 PM

If you're hinting at me, I won't show my face for professional and safety reasons, but I have shown my mostly nude body to a user here to prove my stats, and he verified it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:10 PM
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I'm asking specifically about the male habit of taking the position that their opinion of which female features are attractive vs not is so very important for them to express. Do you understand my question? If you don't, please choose the social media you prefer and seek the hashtag "hessomid" for one million examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:09 PM
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Nope. I don't like ugly people = to "I don't like people who are balding, flat chested, overweight, wear glasses" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:07 PM
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I did the same thing. Why is it a problem when a woman complains about the existence of ugly, overweight, balding, old, older, unattractive, tattooed, short, skinny, out of shape, men with bad teeth, bad skin, or small... things? It's the same thing, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:52 PM
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Let us assign value to people's opinions in proportion to the level of attention they receive from the opposite sex, or the absence of it. Very intelligent and most importantly, moral. Sorry if practical, rational, and logical pairings are a problem to you, I guess? But since you broached the topic, why do you feel that "Clarifying that a certain type of person isn’t my preference" is a moral action, when rational and logical desire for mutual sexual attraction has the same results? I have done …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:40 PM
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How could it be personal if I have no idea what that anonymous user looks like? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:33 PM
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Alright, for the 100th+ time. Men on social media never fail to criticize female models, actors, musicians, athletes, politicians, and business leaders based on their appearance alone, and damn near all those men have public profiles. And those men are old, fat, bald, weird, awkward, ugly... and many of them post their photos. Now take a look at this sub. Few to no photos are posted. But when I ask totally anonymous men why they are so convinced they are in a position to reject women who would f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:32 PM
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Why are we so offensive today? Exactly. Why are men so determined to criticize women's appearance, when they get wildly angry if women return the favor. Or more pointedly, why do ugly men with few options spend so much time criticizing the appearance of women who are disgusted by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:18 PM
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Nope. I have zero tattoos, no extra piercings, the hair and skin I was born with. I've been asking this question on reddit and other social media under different incarnations for a literal decade. I understand this particular question invites critique. In general, on this sub, all over reddit and every manosphere space, and every social media space, men of all ages, of all social status, of all socioeconomic status, and frankly frightenly ugly men appear to live for critiquing women's appearance…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:08 PM
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Same question I always have for men who feel very strongly that their attraction to women who don't know they are alive is so very important. Why do you feel your opinion about how women look is so very crucial to share? Can you explain this phenomenon? (#) hessomid on TikTok
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:04 PM
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No one is asking men to chime in on the appearance of women who aren’t remotely interested, and yet men do, somehow, feel their opinion about women who would never date them matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:04 PM
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Sure it does, because he’s faking an interest in physical health and sexual attractiveness just long enough to trick a woman into dating him. He will revert immediately upon commitment. Why in the world are you speaking for what women care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:01 PM
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Depends. Is he a lifelong athelete? Or a gamer/terper desperate to trick women into believing he's a dedicated athlete? Is he natural, or on gear? Does he fit in with an belong to athlete culture, or is a tren/test/anabolic devotee using shortcuts to attract women he has nothing in common with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:27 PM
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That's odd, I find the more a man demands that random women who don't know he exists conform to his favorite wank material, the more obsessed with himself he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:25 PM
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Do you believe that women pierce their noses in an attempt to attract men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:24 PM
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At a certain point in any teen's life is the milestone in which they realize their parents are human and either or both are victims or products of their respective familial, cultural, or religious environment and/or voluntary adherence. Once the teen realizes their parents are also human and takes the time to respect and understand the dynamics which influence their upbringing, including the teen's own limitations and... beliefs, what happens now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:23 PM
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Oh for fucks sake, men lie with such enthusiasm and confidence. No, childcare would not be something I would ever want to do Men are fucking ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:29 AM
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Your wife left you and paid your bills and never had custody? Did you win the lottery?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:53 AM
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Raise them yourself for free, Homie.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:25 AM
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Newton was born of a woman and raised by a woman. No men would achieve anything without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:07 PM
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Expecting extra credit for basic hygiene is something. But you still actually have to like women and enjoy their company before one wants to spend time with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:06 PM
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How successful are men, really, when half of them reproduce? Wouldn’t you reckon that men’s impulsive and (ahem) “innovative” behavior kills them before they contribute to the gene pool?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:42 PM
1

Misanthropic men are also sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:33 PM
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From men who sexually disgust them? Brother please 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:46 PM
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The can of worms OP has opened cannot be unseen. I’ll speak for most women. Men who hate women or regard them as lesser can wallow in the “loneliness epidemic” until death. Women have zero interest in such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:45 PM
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The field of psychiatry is incomplete until the link between misanthropy and the male loneliness epidemic is defined. PPD is a fucking goldmine for the ambitious student seeking a published breakthrough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:42 PM
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But any woman can have that plus friendship with a man she actually respects and is attracted to. Why would she settle for a boring user?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:38 PM
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What interest do men have in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:37 PM
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Step 1: if a man likes and respects women, having a diverse social sphere is key to warm approach. That’s it. There is only one step. Men who resent and dislike women get what they get, which is likely to be constant and consistent rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:32 PM
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Oh look, it’s my turn. Let me stalk your posts for awhile. Stop talking and trying to befriend women, unless you prefer bitching about problems instead of solving them. Thank me later for fixing this for you. Stay away from female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:28 PM
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Then he should be a more interesting, engaging, and genuine friend instead of a shitty, manipulative orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:23 PM
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Men are more risk prone since they’re more disposable Impulsive and volatile, which is also why they are far more likely to encounter violence. The words imprudent and stupid work, too. Men are also naturally more interested in things, and this is seen in infants and other animals too so it’s not just a societal construct. This disposition would lend itself well to innovating those “things” that make up society. Speaking of stupid. I used chimps and bonobos as a proxy for where humans would be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:23 PM
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Okay I guess I need to be more direct. Do men feel they are somehow more interesting and complex? Do red/black pilled men realize that the women they find sexually attractive are extremely unlikely to be excited about sharing a boys with a gamer who has no idea how to cook or operate the dishwasher? A neck beard who cannot be trusted at parties or weddings without saying something embarrassing or stupid? A man who calls athletic events “sportsball”? A man with half a dozen weird fetishes or a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:06 PM
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No one asked. Date whomever you prefer, best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:58 PM
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Gay and asexual men and women are indeed useful to society, which has fuck all to do with evolution or other primates. Would you like to restate your claim without relying on the evolution of sexually successful hominids, and perhaps making the point outside of a sub which focuses on romantic and sexual selection of hominids?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:58 PM
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When big strong men stop seeking women’s attention, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:52 PM
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If thine eye offends thee…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:51 PM
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same way I do phrases such as lonely men. Just for funsies. What’s the title of the post you’ve responded to? Hint: it’s right at the top. Scroll up. If you need help, ask the OP or a mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:51 PM
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I’ve posted men’s own words here. If you have a problem with their confessions, take it up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:49 PM
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My issue lies with antisocial men as well as men who spread disinformation, because the horseshit they post harms men I love. And I’ll do as I please, but it’s positively darling when men think they have any influence over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:48 PM
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You know why. You consistently post disinformation and false MRA horseshit, and refuse to respond when corrected. I don’t know why you continue to respond to my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:46 PM
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How do you… … do you think women find you boring or tedious?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:44 PM
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Hence men are still critical to the evolution of society, if we were like bonobos then chances are human society would be something like 10000 years behind technologically. Are you seriously trying to claim credit for primate evolution while confessing that men who don’t pass down genetic information because they are antisocial have somehow advanced society?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:43 PM
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They know straight men don’t want to hang out with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:12 PM
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You are the third man here who pretends he’s speaking to an audience other than PPD debate. Have you considered looking where you are before you post?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:12 PM
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dating experts grifters and their hateful, obedient, anti intellectual subscribers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:52 PM
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Are you remotely aware of what sub you are in, and which men are whining here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:51 PM
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Of course they do. Or at least they keep trying and assume they have the skill to disguise their disdain for women. However. The ubiquitousness of cameras and social media mean that men like this are failing miserably, as women expose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:36 PM
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You support the men who say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:35 PM
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They aren’t in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:28 PM
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Dunno, why do you men keep marrying female prisoners?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:28 PM
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I’m sticking to the men in this thread who openly admit they hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:27 PM
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Maybe keep up with the thread? Multiple men here admit they sexually desire a woman and want a domestic and sexual servant while actively hating women. None of those men are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:21 PM
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It’s gendered because women are attracted to men they like and respect. Red/black pilled men hate women, have no respect for women but will happily use and degrade women. Women are repelled, as they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:20 PM
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My answer stays the same. No woman benefits from the company of a man who desires but despises and disrespects women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:17 PM
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And for every man that goes down the incel rabbit hole there is one woman who will never ever have a partner. And she is better off for avoiding abusive, shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:16 PM
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All straight men desire women’s sexual attention. That doesn’t mean they like or respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:13 PM
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There's an entire demographic of men completely incapable of connecting on any level with women. Or men! They claim their social and sexual problems would somehow be solved by men-only social spaces, but they don’t like men, either, and especially despise and disparage athletic, socially successful men who would never waste time in a sausage fest anyway. Literally the only thing they have to do is stop hating people. If they cannot manage that, it’s either therapy or solitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:12 PM
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The only thing stopping those men is their belief they “deserve” subservience from attractive women even if the men are ugly and misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:08 PM
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No woman wants to spend time with a man who hates her unless she’s offering her pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:06 PM
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I think most men don't have women as friends because they don't really want to play personal therapist all the time. You think any woman wants to date, fuck, or marry a man who feels this way about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:05 PM
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Oh, I dunno, the company you keep? I can think that the vast majority of women are boring and have vapid hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:03 PM
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you: I can think that the vast majority of women are boring and have vapid hobbies Why would any woman want to devote her life to any man who regards women this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:02 PM
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You realize women can see men’s post histories and men in this very thread openly brag about hating women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:57 PM
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Men who “built and maintain the infrastructure” can surely invite their male friends to parties and cookouts, can surely rent social venues for sausage fests. Women have done it for decades. Baby showers, wedding showers,crafting parties, mom groups, MLMs for makeup or sex toys… Do men need Mommies’ help planning their little parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:56 PM
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Who are you responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:49 PM
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If you have a point, make it without attempting to shame women for preferring men they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:48 PM
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Yeah he’s a shitty friend who was never a friend. But he will for sure start whining about the “friendzone” as soon as she realizes he’s a phony.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:47 PM
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Are you joking right now? Or just think that deleting your insults renders them invisible? Did Chad cheat on you and you're here taking on the rest or mortals?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:45 PM
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If it bothers him, he isn’t her friend, he’s an orbiter and a liar incapable of being friends with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:44 PM
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The answer is the same obvious answer it has been for decades. If men don’t want women to select for mutual attraction, then they can lower their standards. Date ugly, awkward, hateful women, since that’s what men expect women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:44 PM
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And? Men prefer women they find sexually and physically attractive, why do the same men pretend to be dismayed that women have the same preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:41 PM
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Sexual attraction isn’t shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:41 PM
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You are better than this. Hatefilled, egotistical men who regard women as accessories to men, as a means to an end,, don’t care about women or what women want, and the feeling is mutual. Women aren’t required to reach out and rescue, convince, convert, or provide comfort to shitty men who prefer red pill indoctrination to treating women like equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:38 PM
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It’s the part with sexually and romantically undesirable men with no social experience decide that women who don’t want to date them are somehow “using them” for therapy?? Orbiters try many manipulative things to entrap women, but they are not capable nor qualified to provide “therapy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:35 PM
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If you base your definition on terpers in this sub, yeah. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:33 PM
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When men solve their own problems instead of demanding that women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:33 PM
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What do women have to do with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:32 PM
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Those men found their hate filled communities looong before their puberty and cerebral and sexual interest in women. Men need to reach those men in their own plane, why would women bother with men who hate them or regard them as a means to an end?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:30 PM
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What lonely men want is to be considered worthy of love, affection, and adoration Most here hate women, so who cares what they “want”? Women don’t care what men who despise and disrespect women want until they grow up or get therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:27 PM
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I don’t know who you think you are talking to, but Chad is a good man. Sexually attractive, fun men with social lives are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:27 PM
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Never been cheated on in my life, and I spend most of my time working and hanging out with attractive, athletic men. I won’t insult you, but I will ask what your problem is with sexually and socially attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:25 PM
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Yeah, men never do define "just world fantasy". If men are jerks who regard women as less than, as accessories, as sexy children, women are right when they avoid and actively dislike or make fun of those men. That isn't a just world fallacy, that's rejecting men who don't share their values and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:06 PM
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And what rights and feelings am I disregarding? Her human rights to happiness, professional fulfillment, independence, and sexual satisfaction. What can you do to support her and enhance her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:00 PM
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Define Just World Fantasy, and remain here while I give examples of how men defy it, dare you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:55 PM
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I have no idea what you are saying or why you are participating in this discussion. If you aren't "lonely" and desperately desiring a female partner to warm your dick and clean your house, why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:24 PM
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Then you aren't lonely and don't need a partner. You've decided and defined your conditions, which exclude nearly everyone and represent sociopathy. Good for you, you got what you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:17 PM
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but I think it can be a net-negative unless these people are integral to your short and long-term successes. Friendship and romantic/sexual companionship are mutually beneficial activities. Men or women who regard others as a means to an end are sociopaths, and as such, don't have a place in society. Misanthropes are not society's problems or concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:15 PM
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are just fucked over by nature in a liberalized dating market Such a weird thing to post. Women prefer men they are sexually and cerebrally attracted to, has fuck-all to do with politics. The only reason women in previous decades settled for men they couldn't stand is because women weren't free to support themselves financially or prevent unwanted pregnancy. What's going on the red/black pill atmosphere anyway? Do men want women to be sexually attracted or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:11 PM
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What are the chances a man with such discriminating interests will find a woman willing to date a man who regards most women with disdain?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:04 PM
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Do you think your words are invisible? You admit you infantilize women and feel you are qualified to provide grown, legal women with guidance. I warned all kinds of women in my time. Not just 18 year olds. But the problem is, they never seem to listen. While also reserving the legal right to fuck them, hmm? If I feel an 18 year old male is too immature to make decisions about his own lovelife, sexual interest with him is off limits since he's an emotional and social child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:57 PM
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And women only make "good friends" who pass your qualifications for an exclusive club do... what? Are they allowed to exist as platonic friends? Or what?? What conditions are women required to meet in order to qualify for your exclusive club?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:55 PM
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She doesn't, and to assume that most people who are single and lonely must have some huge hatred and disdain for the opposite sex is bordering a delusional gender war fantasy at best. You're participating in the same thread I am, and I've read your posts. Platonic companionship is not a perfect replacement for romantic companionship. Of course not. But the men who hate women who don't want to touch their peen would make horrific, abusive companions for women. Men either like women, or they want …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:53 PM
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The perverse interest men have in infantilizing women they admit they want to fuck needs to be addressed, or tried by a jury of peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:51 PM
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All girls over 12 or so and all women realize men who are attracted to them are not "free therapists", they are manipulators who sabotage their relationships with other men. "lonely men" are the last people on earth qualified to be therapists, and orbiters need professional therapy far more than any woman seeking friendship and support from a casual friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:44 PM
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But if I expect to become their friend, I have to win them over The fuck? No, you just share common values and common interests, that's all that is necessary for friendship. Do you feel access to your person is some sort of exclusive club or something? Your replies are baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:42 PM
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You had your chance. If you don't like women, you aren't "lonely". If you don't like and respect women, why do you want one? (Rhetorical question every reader knows the answer to.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:39 PM
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Because I treat individuals with respect and give them a chance to win me over. Yeah no one is required to win you over.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:38 PM
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As usual, men who claim they are lonely and demand attention from women, confess with their whole chest that they actually hold women in disdain, dislike women, degrade and devalue women, and confess they want a warm hole, not a human being deserving of respect. Keep it up fellas, blatant chauvinism and aggressive misogyny is really a fantastic method of seeking female companionship /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:35 PM
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Tell me you haven't read the replies from men without confessing you haven't read the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:33 PM
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I think most men don't have women as friends because they don't really want to play personal therapist all the time. Okay, then stay lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:32 PM
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So society should ignore any woman who complains about feeling lonely and depressed because having even just one friend should negate all of that, huh? So society should ignore any woman who complains about feeling lonely and depressed because having even just one friend should negate all of that, huh? If she hates men and finds them vapid, stupid, overemotional, incompetent, and just generally annoying? Yep. Yessir, most definitely. Men who claim to be "lonely" hate women, read the other confes…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:32 PM
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I can think that the vast majority of women are boring and have vapid hobbies without thinking that all women do. That's your answer. What woman in her right mind would gamble on a man who hates women? That doesn't make me a "bad" person. It makes you a bad partner who only desires a woman for use he can get out of her. To me, it really comes down to how you treat individuals, not how you view the general population. To women, it's how men who find women "vapid" treat and regard women, and that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:28 PM
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It's because those men aren't actually lonely. If they were, they'd be happy to have female platonic friends. But they aren't. The same men who claim loneliness actively hate women, claim women are boring and have vapid hobbies, claim women are emotionally dependent children. Admit that a woman who isn't offering her pussy isn't worth wasting time on. That's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:02 PM
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Thing is, it is lost on them. Red/black pilled men love confessing they've spent years orbiting women and attempting to "council" them on which men they ought to date. A universal fact about red/black pilled men: they cannot resist telling on themselves. They are happy to infantilize women, describe women over 18 as immature and vulnerable children who need to be protected from men. Note how I stressed "other" men. The same orbiters who claim they protect and try to help women, also reserve the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:59 PM
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No, I'm very clearly expressing disgust at the unsurprising confession that men want to fuck women they infantilize.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:56 PM
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they lose almost all of the millions they started out with by menopause lol. Potentially fertile eggs after the onset of puberty range between 300,000 to 500,000, but the average potential for fertilization is nearer 300 for women. Meanwhile, men produce a quadrillion sperm. 1,000,000,000,000,000 potential chances to impregnate… and most are squandered because women don't want to breed with most men. It still means men are required to impregnate women lmao. Men vastly underestimate the number of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:55 PM
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I don't address anti-science political disinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:47 PM
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Because i saw women (all women, not just 18 year olds) that were dating total losers and/or assholes. Nope, no. No sir. If you find them old enough to fuck, you have no business pretending them need the advice of an old man who claims they are old enough to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:53 PM
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It’s the same claim. Why were you warning any woman over the age of 18 if you consider them entirely responsible for whatever any man does to them? I can’t wait to hear it. And I’d love to hear the same excuses from all the orbiters and and “nice guys” who warn women away from men. How can you justify warning women to avoid men if all women over the age of 18 are responsible for whatever happens to them?? Surely it has nothing to do with your ulterior motives, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:37 PM
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You don’t want to stick to your claim of earning women against older men with bad intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:26 PM
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There’s loads more benefits to male physiology …speaking of loads
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:23 PM
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Women don’t have to? Men adore spraying sperm into the barren ground. i.e. Petri dishes. Half a million births in the US alone are conceived with donor sperm. If mothers harvested all the gym socks, the numbers would be much higher. Very few ejaculations are aimed in the direction of willing and fertile eggs. Men love wasting gametes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:22 PM
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The women who prefer solar or wind power and a collective desire to preserve ecology instead of destroy the earth and leave future generations to starve in a dystopian, desolate wasteland.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:16 PM
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Paid workers who choose those careers. When men get booboos or the man flu, who takes care of them? Same thing. Paid workers who choose that line of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:15 PM
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It was a long fucking time ago, in 1984. But I can see why you’re confused, since marital rape wasn’t federally outlawed until 1993. So if you’re fine with drinking, smoking, and dying in war at age 18 and consider raising the age of accountability to 21 a “slippery slope”, guess it’s safe to assume that removing the excuse for (marital) rape in 1993 was also step backwards for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:06 PM
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Here’s a thought. MAYBE WARN OLD MEN TO LEAVE TEENAGERS ALONE INSTEAD?? Call me crazy, but I think predators should be stopped instead of victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:00 PM
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🤣 So who did you warn 18 year old women about? 23 year old men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:54 PM
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Have women asked men how to “judge” them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:58 PM
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Yep. They all have the same goal, trying to socially enforce approaching kids. Where I live and work, women under the age of 25 or so act out when approached by older men. Not because they want to risk their safety, but because they want older men to respect social convention and to stop being creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:57 PM
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Men are women’s first source of warnings against men’s sinister motives. And Men routinely pretend all snakes are venomous and treat them all as threats to life. Women are just following men’s lead. Relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:19 PM
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You have this very negative view of men which just isnt true. My view of men who want to exploit young women when it’s convenient, yet protect young women from men they regard as c in petitions is accurate and substantiated by your own post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:59 PM
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Somehow I figured you’d withdraw you view of maturity when confronted with the possibility of ostracism via social media. Men always seem to cherry pick claims about female maturity. Father of an 18 year old on prom night? “Protective father practicing justified violence” Thirty year old perv desperate to snag a naive girlfriend? “Upstanding citizen who deserves a crack at a woman young enough to need her father’s guidance”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:25 PM

Are you preaching Biblical inerrancy? Hmm? Doesn't matter if you answer is yay or neigh. Genesis 9:7: "And you, be fruitful and multiply; increase greatly on the earth and multiply in it." John 15:5:"I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." Colossians 1:10:"That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God." Psalms 1:3: "He shall …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:12 PM
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Sure, if they have advisors and chaperones. Barring that, 18 year olds are "smart enough and mature enough" to blast men on social media and expose them for creeping. Right? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:11 PM

The irony of "religious" people parroting these points concerning "purpose" is that even Catholic teaching (which is a far cry from "progressive" religious teachings around sexuality) itself even says that "sex is a gift from God to be enjoyed by married couples … who aren’t allowed to practice birth control Massive omission on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:05 PM
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It's just standard homespun folk wisdom Folk wisdom advises men to suck the venom out of rattlesnake bites. Among a thousand other ridiculous falsehoods. As well as a massively obvious oxymoron. which somehow catches on in the culture and gets repeated in discussions like this one. Used almost exclusively by men trying to defend sexually harassing young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:56 PM
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Do you think an 18 year old knows how to take advantage of all of the scholarships and grants for tuition? Oh what about them knowing exactly what they want to major and then never change that major 2 or 3 years in. Absolutely? That’s what counselors and advisors are for. How can you not know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:54 PM

No one has claimed females have orgasms in those species You know this isn't true. It's largely not a thing and women's experiences are consistent with it not being a thing in humans. Yeah? Who are the vast majority of sex toys for? And which men decided to prevent women from purchasing devices to facilitate sexual pleasure without a man? Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Thailand, Malaysia, Alabama, and Texas. Explain the pervasive proliferation of female sex toys, and also why men ban toys which facilita…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:26 PM
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I actually thought it was Dear Abby who came up with that. That's... an even dumber reason to take it seriously? She was an ugly old woman who regarded grown men as children and chastised women who didn't indulge in manchildren. "Remember, you are dealing with a little boy in long pants, who is short on will power. Don't play the martyr and make a wild scene. Vehemence and nagging, though he's guilty as sin, may launch him on a new career — philandering in earnest."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:15 PM

And you are hopelessly, hilariously wrong, but no man or woman can convince an indoctrinated man resistant to reason, logic, and science.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:09 PM
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But if it did, no one would be able to date or marry any 7-year-olds Yet they did, in 1901, when this sentence was published. You know what else was the "rule" in 1901? Forcing male children to labor in mines. Segregation. Denial of equal rights for non-white men and all women. Lynching wasn't illegal and rarely punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:05 PM

All female mammals possess a clitoris. The organ which exists for no other reason than sexual pleasure facilitates copulation. If a man suffers religious indoctrination which prevents him from understanding simple biology and evolution, he's beyond the reach of science and reason, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:58 PM
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Admitting you aren't participating in good faith is a new one for terpers. I'm in awe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:54 PM
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I think the divide by 2 + 7 rule is good particularly for serious relationships What's the origin for that "rule"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:52 PM
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All the more reason an unblemished, untarnished 18 year old should be protected from 40 year old losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:52 PM
0

Do you know anything at all about college? That many states have adopted two years of free state or tech degrees? That scholarships and grants are available for scholars and athletes? Average cost of a four year state college with full tuition is under $40,000? If that person accepts the free two year program, it's less than $20,000? Maybe, just maybe, Fox Entertainment isn't the best source for stats on college tuition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:50 PM
3

The slippery slope, coupled with a Boomer "get off my lawn" rant? The middle aged and senior men in this sub are gonna upvote this so hard they might tip their recliners over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:47 PM
2

It isn't the standard rule, it's literally a throw away quote from a 1901 book by French author Max O'Rell. I'll remind readers that in 1901, marital rape was legal. in France, the age of consent was 13, Delaware's age of consent was 7. Maybe consider the horrors female children were subjected to in 1901 before claiming this horseshit quote is a social "rule".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:44 PM
1

The empathy lies with the more vulnerable party, and that's the younger person who stands to lose more by association with an emotionally or socially stunted 24 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:37 PM
1

Like, what if a 24-year-old is in the same life stage as their 18-year-old counterpart? How would an 18 year old be served by attaching him or herself to a 24 year old suffering from arrested development?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:35 PM
4

22 vets die by suicide each day, and 34,000 vets in the US are homeless. Traumatic brain injuries, disfigurement, PTSD are common. 5.3 million veterans receive Disability Compensation. You want to offer your 18 year old son or little brothers up with these odds?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:34 PM
-1

stop giving out hundred thousand student loans You want med students to stop seeking an education and loans they will obviously be able to pay back? Or do you actually think most student loans are 100,000?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:30 PM
0

military recruiters Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:26 PM

When I'm teaching, religious students demand to know "what purpose does a mosquito serve" and "Why do we humans need bears" and other questions which indicate the religious belief that everything on earth serves a purpose and a function to mankind. The OP and supporters seem to be operating under the same presumption that a god designed everything to function for His higher purpose. In reality, the purpose of a sex drive is copulation, full stop. For reproduction: sometimes. For bonding: certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:11 PM

If it's not associated with the climax/goal of the female role in reproduction When a woman is sexually aroused, her body lubricates the vaginal canal. The more excited she is, the easier it is for sperm to swim in that hospitable environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:54 PM

but it wouldn't have a biological function or benefit reproduction. I feel like you are just messing with people here and pretending not to know. The clitoris is the only human organ which exists solely for sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is literally the purpose. All mammals seek pleasurable sensations. If sex feels good, an animal is more likely to seek it, which occasionally leads to passing down genetic information.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:52 PM

It would come from the men who are using all of the services she provides. Pay a STAHM the same money a widowed father must pay to a babysitter, daycare, chauffeur, tutor, personal shopper, chef, nurse, social planner, etc, and that salary will be taxed as income, same as any other job. Who the fuck is paying people to wash their own clothes and empty their own dishwasher? What are you on about? Who is discussing a woman who lives alone? Men would be able to afford to pay for a wife and a stay a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:49 PM

but there's not a biological function they'd need to be incentivized to reach like there is for men. Where in the world did you get this idea? You definitely did not learn this in Biology 101. Surely you understand that the instinct to pair up is for copulation, not reproduction. Very few animals have any idea that copulation occasionally results in conception. Since the "goal" is to rub genitalia, it's reasonable to assume that animals which enjoy the sensation of sexual pleasure will seek it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:45 PM

You've almost got it. If you pay women for the work they provide for free, they will be contributing to the tax base and won't need public assistance. That's between $180-205,000 per year. Of course that means most men can't afford to pay for a wife and stay at home mom, but it would sure stop the argument about "muh tax contributions".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:33 PM
1

Cucks love paying for deadbeat fathers. Let that sink in
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:22 AM
2

What kind of man hides behind another? Oh that’s you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:10 PM
2

Which woman caused you to believe your mother sacrificed nothing whatsoever to raise you to adulthood? Do men here ever consider the depth of their confessions? You can insult women all day long, but men can’t do it well without revealing their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:10 PM
3

You want credit for confirming that antisocial women prefer attractive antisocial men? Weird victory lap but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:02 PM
3

Don’t have to. Rep pilled men aren’t attractive, sociable, fun, confident, flirty, or sexually appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:22 PM
1

Moms need naps, not martyrdom. Holy shit, you just diminished everything mothers do from gestation to labor to nursing to 18-20 years of self sacrifice of 24/7 on call effort and care. To a fucking nap. I don’t think a terper has ever written anything more unappreciative and hateful than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:21 PM
2

Hey maybe find someone else to flirt and “neg” okay? I would never.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:13 PM
2

But her kids??? They are more important to women than anything women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:11 PM
3

Did I ask you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:03 PM
2

Is it? Then look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:57 PM
1

Because she loves her kids and wants them to have a good, happy, successful life? Are you fucking serious??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:56 PM
2

Im choosing to ignore your personal insults and answering your initial question. Because her kids come first, obviously she cares more about their health, their social lives, their scholastic and athletic achievements than he does. Because hygiene and nutrition are important to her. But mainly because he pretended to be competent long enough to fool a woman into serving as his unsatisfied bangmaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:55 PM
-1

I answer. I’ve started exactly one conversation and it was positive. And I also don’t care if you lie about my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:51 PM
0

Dude everything in the red/black pill is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:50 PM
1

Jesus fucking Christ, the wage for the tasks of a stay at home mom is $185,000. Who the fuck cleaned his house, bought and cooked his groceries, did his laundry, and planned his social and family events when he was single?? And why did he stop??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:19 PM
2

I’m sorry, what?? Who did the fucking chores when he was single? Who washed his clothes and his dishes, mopped and vacuumed, who cleaned his sinks and toilets and showers, who bought his groceries, who prepared his food when he had the same fucking job??? Was it… was it Mother? Be serious right now. Why do men become helpless and entitled the moment a woman moves in?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:16 PM
1

Pay them. Pay them a wage, and ensure it’s legal and above board so they are contributing to the tax base and social security if in the US. What’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:15 PM
3

So why would it be unreasonable for me to say that men or women shouldn't be held to this? Women have done it for decades, surely the men who “designed, built, and maintain the infrastructure” can handle it. Are you saying that instead of women only playing one role men should join them in misery? Ha ha what misery? There is freedom in the ability to operate smoothly in every realm. Ask the men who paint their nails, who sport kilts and pick up kittens. Ask the women who split their own firewood…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:44 PM
0

I never write anything more hateful than what men say. My replies are measured in-kind responses to men, along with actual facts and evidence. I’m not patient with men who misrepresent statistics, but with everything else, it’s an equal but opposite response to their posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:41 PM
3

Do you believe indulging in their disinformation and hatred of women is helping them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:39 PM
1

Men are so quick with excuses for relying on others to perform the role a mother fills. No one believes men. No men do this all themselves, they run to Mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:39 PM
5

Every red and black pilled man, where have you been? They all admit they expect her to fill all those roles since they are working (the same job they worked when single). Try and keep up, will you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:08 PM
1

I agree. Pay for it and stop whining about taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:07 PM
2

Average salary for each of those roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:07 PM
3

I’m pretty sure single mothers rely on the structural support of their friends, family and communities as much as men do to help take care of their children. You are wrong. Most single men Again, I was talking about parents, but please tell me what you’ve read here. Surely you’ve seen how many formerly single men expect their wives to take over all the housework, shopping, cooking, laundry, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:07 PM
3

Women don’t find playing the roles of mom and dad fulfilling, either, that’s why they eventually leave. But women do it because if we don’t, no one else will. Entitled men sure as fuck expect perpetual unpaid service from women while simultaneously (read the thread you are in) verbally chastising women for “failing to contribute to the tax base”. I don’t care how you feel about me, personally, but as a progressive man, surely you can see through that horseshit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:56 PM
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Who are you responding to? I’m speaking of single fathers, who simply cannot raise their children alone with paying for help or expecting free labor from family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:47 PM
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You claimed that you are unable or unwilling to play two roles, and I illustrated how women play two roles as a rote. Women play multiple roles daily, but men are somehow incompetent and incapable?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:44 PM
1

You have no idea what women really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:42 PM
4

Still have no idea what you are saying. dead bedroom are a thing and mostly are a result of women refusing sex. Yeah women don’t like having sex with men who are selfish, entitled, incompetent, or have gross habits. Still have no idea what point you think you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:41 PM
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Sex is a 2 person activity Absolutely agree, when it’s fun. When he is competent, attractive, and mutually invested in her gratification as much as his own. But do you know where you are posting right now, and that red and black pilled men demand sex as an obligation? Who don’t believe that women’s orgasm is necessary? Who claim that sex is a biological need or else men will go crazy and commit suicide? Consider the space you are in and pay attention to how red/black pilled men speak of sex and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:39 PM
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No idea what this post says or how it relates the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:31 PM
3

It’s men as a class, especially the men who cry because women “don’t contribute to the tax base” because men don’t pay them. When men do lose a wife, they rely on the free labor or their female family members. Love to see the bills of a man who moves away from his family and has to pay babysitters, tutors, nurses, cooks or take-out, housecleaners, etc. They sure as fuck don’t get all that for free unless they run to mommy for help after a wife dies or leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:30 PM
2

Have you asked men who are physically attractive and flirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:21 PM
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Wanting to treat her as an equal but also wants to shove me in a traditional male gender role. This common complaint is completely off base. Women have been playing both roles for decades. The competent parent, competent employee, competent student, the person who manages all the practical and essential chores of raising children and keeping a home. While also maintaining a feminine countenance, typical feminine behavior towards others in familial and social situations, the careful and attentive…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:19 PM
5

How much do you pay your children’s babysitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:10 PM
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It’s not hate, it’s common sense. Exploiting another for free labor is called something else when a man isn’t married to his domestic, parental, and sexual servant. Can you think of the name for someone who is expected to take care of everything for free? Who can’t contribute to the tax base because they are not paid for their labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:10 PM
-1

As you should. If you want someone to take care of your home, your children, and you: pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:07 PM
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No, I want men to apply common sense and reason, and recognize the reason women contribute less taxes is because they aren’t paid for their lifetime labor. How about you raise your own goddamn kids and keep you own goddamned house? Without help from Mummy. Do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:06 PM
10

Correct, so pay women for their domestic and parental labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:56 PM
7

So fix it. Pay women for their unpaid labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:55 PM
10

Women are not paid for the work of raising children and keeping a home. When men start paying women for those tasks, they will contribute to more taxes. Stop whining about this when men benefit directly from women’s unpaid labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:55 PM
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The same things everyone works for. A place to live, something to drive, money for utilities and hobbies, activities with friends. But I can see how the “logical gender” is distressed if he doesn’t also acquire an unpaid servant, an unpaid housekeeper, an unpaid personal shopper, an unpaid chef, an unpaid social planner, unpaid laundress, and unpaid chauffeur he can use for unpaid sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:45 PM
2

The ick is because men don’t care about her happiness, only their own, they don’t require mutual attraction, they don’t care that she isn’t romantically or sexually attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:43 AM
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Enjoy the sexbots, because human women will commit sepaku before allowing pervy human men to harm them with their disgusting fetishes and affinity to drug women and commit necrophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:48 PM
4

Yeah, I am. Disinterest isn’t abuse, harm, crime, or murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:13 PM
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Statistics about violence aren’t th Oppression Olympics. No matter how you torture an OP: disfigurement and murder will never equal rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:44 PM
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The part where you complain about women wishing men were dead, while leaving out the part where the leading cause of injuries to women is domestic violence, leading cause of death of pregnant women is homicide. But sure, let’s talk about men’s hurt feelings more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:22 PM
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u/Ceazer4L, do you engage at all? With any of your inflammatory posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:58 PM
-1

It’s entirely acceptable for men or women to feel distaste to dislike for people who seek to oppress and hinder their autonomy and freedom. It’s also entirely acceptable to avoid people who regard other humans as subordinate or less than, and to hate people who regard other humans as a means to an end. For example: I actively hate fat old draft dodging men who benefit from generational wealth who encourage impressionable and mentally ill young men to serve as cannon fodder. I actively hate fat o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:25 PM
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It’s my favorite. How long before the conservative prom dad with a shotgun becomes a meme to respond to “why are women rude to men” queries?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:20 PM
1

You left out indoctrinated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:18 PM
1

Then reread what I wrote. If a man likes sex and feels valued when physically desired, admit it. Nothing can be gained by pretending to be the “Nice Guy” unless he prefers infrequent and chaste sex. Show who you really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:38 PM
2

Lost interest in the plight of men who are exposed by male “spies”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:35 PM
2

I didn’t imply shit. I laughed at the idea that men who earn their friends about shitty men are “spies”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:30 PM
2

Imagine reaching a Big Age and assuming men all support misogyny and chauvinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:23 PM
2

I didnt forget, I was making fun of the idea that men who expose misogynists are “spying”. Those men are allies, hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:12 PM
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no one cares about the opinions of those who spy on them in a private moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:37 AM
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Yep. They tell women. Who told brainwashed men that men who like women support them? Sorry-not-sorry that misogynists and chauvinists are routinely outed and exposed for hating women. Say whatever you want in the "locker room", better men will tell women and stop those men from interfering with women's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:35 AM
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Then you should have no problem linking your "alternate definition" of spying. u/The_Forgotten001 43 minutes ago Irrelevant, no one cares about the opinions of those who spy on them in a private moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:30 AM
4

How does that apply to this topic? Befriend a stud oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:21 AM
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I’m using it the same way, Linguistics Major. Men who believe they are justified in comparing “pussy” to the spoils of war and women as commodities really believe they are speaking to allies in the locker room, when those “allies” who are popular with women rush right out to warn women against such men. And they also make fun of them. But they aren’t spies. They are friends of women and allies; the men who actually provide protection for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:04 AM
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Irrelevant, no one cares about the opinions of those who spy on them in a private moment. Are you okay right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:54 AM
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Same, why are you assuming “spies” inform me? Are men and women enemies are war? Opponents of the same “sport”? Or do I simply prefer adults who regard human beings as ends in themselves rather than achievements to conquer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:52 AM
2

Yeah they do, because they imagine that’s how “Chad” regards women, so they feel way too comfortable pretending they are slaying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:43 AM
0

*without being judged for their lack of popularity and success with women. Unfortunately for those men, they forget that men also know about Aesop’s Fables, and can clearly see when frustrated men suffer from sour grapes. You know how women know? Men tell us. Maybe the next time men feel they are in a “safe space” to compare women to resources, they might remember that more successful men have female friends and will happily blast the chauvinists to save the female friends from wasting time with…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:42 AM
1

Lemme guess, spanked and turned out okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:32 AM
1

The only person in the position to decide the severity is the victim, full stop. No one should touch anyone without enthusiastic consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:18 AM
1

I am, actually, at least the men who pretend they are masculine trad men, because trad men take on the role of the oldest child in the home. Lazy, entitled, and incompetent when it comes to parental and domestic tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:12 AM
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Women aren’t whining all over social media and demanding reparations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 04:58 AM
2

Perfection, but you are way too generous with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 02:40 AM
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He wants the same thing I want. Recognition for his accomplishments and achievements, an interest in his hobbies and interests, care for his family, an ear when he’s had a bad day, and a solid fuck when he’s wound up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 02:39 AM
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Can women see photos and stats of these men who so desperately desire to be regarded as providers and protectors? I need some evidence of these wealthy gladiators lining up for attractive, weak, dependent and fearful uneducated women. How much can they bench?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:43 AM
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It’s not about you men at all, no woman is considering the thoughts and delicate ego of a potential future mate when signing up for school and applying for jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:41 AM
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It’s why they leave their boring, unsupportive husbands for better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:19 AM
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My coworkers and I have the best relationship. All but one of us (he’s a shithead like your surgeon) keep up with each others’ achievements and goals and make a point of celebrating. 7 of us went to the new guy’s little sister’s graduation because they just moved in March and she hasn’t made many friends yet. We all went and screamed and yelled for her and I made signs. We barely know this guy, he has only been with us since January. I can’t imagine how badly I would hate to come home every day …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:18 AM
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I said most guys don’t equate degrees with intelligence or attraction, And I clearly said “women didn’t ask”. Women don’t give a flying fuck what men they can’t talk to want. Because there will always be men at work and at school who do care and who can carry on a conversation. There will always be men who are supportive and interested in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:09 AM
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men want to know how being with a woman will enrich his life Then he’d better be the most attractive, most fascinating and engaging man alive. If he is not, his need for adulation might better be served by rescuing a dog from the shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:08 AM
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They don’t plan on conversations and spending time together outside the bedroom. Those men might be better served living a solitary, celibate life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:06 AM
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Sure he will. Men also prefer supportive and engaging partners. Adults prefer people who lift them up, not bring them down or diminish their accomplishments. Fortunately it’s easy for women to find a more suitable partner if the first one is self-absorbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:02 AM
1

That’s okay, she can easily find a more supportive and engaged partner who cares as much about her happiness as his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:01 AM
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You’ve expressed numerous times that a woman’s accomplishments aren’t important to you. That means one of two things, and both are absurd. The first is that you have the gall to assume that a woman’s achievements have anything whatsoever to do with you, or any man. Do you understand? Women don’t live for you. Or for any man. Women are entirely separate humans, with their own goals and agendas, none of which are serving as a man’s support system. It’s not about you. And two: any relationship with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:41 PM
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The ability to think critically and support and celebrate one another’s achievements is the highest indicator of value. The Venn diagram between trad men who post red pilled screeds and conspiracy theories is a circle. No woman of any intelligence and ambition wants to be stuck with a man who lacks the ability to think critically. But most disqualify themselves when they reveal they believe they provide “protection” for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:33 PM
1

Ah, you think women ought to breed with nerds. The last time a notable nerd made a baby with an attractive women he carried the toddler around on his shoulders as a human shield. I don’t agree that physically weaker, unattractive men are the path to success.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:29 PM
4

Why do you think that women care what uneducated men think?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:26 PM
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you have to ask yourself how does your intellect enrich a man's life. Women don’t study and strive for professional success to enrich a man’s life, they do it to enrich their own lives. If a man possesses the intelligence and interest in keeping up, he’s welcome to come along for the ride as a team player. I'm saying before you assume he's intimidated by you, maybe consider it's because you're giving him your CV but you're saying nothing that indicates you would be fun to date, a good wife, or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:19 PM
1

Hypergamy is the condition in which orbiters pretend to be women’s platonic friends, yet never wind up dating them because the women are far too attractive for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:00 PM
2

Rejecting lower-middle class men in non-masculine, indoor jobs or the service industry is a good way to strengthen the genome as well. Surely terpers are in favor of women choosing to breed with lumberjacks, athletes, farmers, and the most popular, physically attractive men. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:59 PM
1

Red and black pill men. TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:48 PM
1

Lionesses do the majority of the hunting and the defending of territory, raising the young. Male lions don’t do shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:46 PM
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If you believe this to be true, terps must be wildly angry at the men who benefit, huh. Bigger, stronger, more powerful men hoarding all the women, huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:52 PM
2

Freedom and autonomy, same pleasures men enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:16 PM
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OP, I’m going to assume this post is intended to help other men out, because you are far too attractive to suffer these problems, unless you have the misfortune to prefer broken women. All you have to do is take off your shirt and grin and everything will fall into place. But if it’s for other men, you may not have an experience with their actual behavior. They neuter themselves in a desperate attempt to win women away from the Bad Men who wish to corrupt them. They put themselves in the unfortu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:03 PM
3

I prefer to invest in pepper spray and bear gel, prominently displayed. Lower investment, higher yield. Fucked up men with agendas which counter women’s leave armed women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:51 PM
0

And if a man’s wife left after investing significant time, she already determined his value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:44 PM
1

Because they lowered their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:47 PM
3

The male loneliness epidemic is created and maintained by men who admit contact with their filthy little penises corrupt and contaminate women. The only solution is for women to avoid sex with most men to preserve the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:45 PM
1

if they'd just not bother me with their nonsense I’ve yet to see a single man complain that women bother them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:37 AM
4

because if they don't, human reproduction will take a brutal hit. No. Men want sex and domestic service from women, they are certainly not providing a service to “human reproduction* because they want to stick their dick in a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:35 AM
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Woman encounters lone bear in the woods. Bear might or might not be hungry, might or might not fear humans, might or might not prefer to avoid any trouble. Chances are great that Bear wants nothing to do with woman and runs the other way. Woman encounters lone man in the woods. Chances are very high that he will interfere with her in some way because women know men, and men do not leave women alone. They try to initiate conversation. They make unsolicited comments and criticism. They give unsoli…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:48 PM
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Thing is, polar bears can be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:16 PM
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This is the one time I actually want to hear their feelings, but this late in the argument (bear vs man is a year old now), I believe men lack the ability to verbalize their outrage. I would love to hear the reason the analogy so deeply wounds and offends them. I have my suspicions. I think there is a solid chance that rejection sensitivity is born in the testes. I think science will eventually discover that rejection sensitivity is a sex linked trait, triggered by the onset of puberty and comor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:58 PM
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I'll see insulted by it The collective outrage by men is well documented all over social media, and continues in the very thread you are writing in. You can’t rewrite history simply because it makes men look needy and whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:49 PM
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Well no. It's that we see them blatantly mistreat women; women complaining about them....and they still somehow end up together. Serial orbiters pretend to be women’s platonic friends, so of course women confide in their friends. Dating is hard for everyone starting out, sometimes breakups and misunderstandings are painful. Women’s biggest mistake is believing those orbiters are sincere and truly have their best interests at heart, when in reality, they are sneaker men. Forever gathering intel a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:46 PM
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No, that’s what men who think they have loftier morals and an easily repressed sexual identity tell themselves. They hold flirty, sexually successful men in low regard because they feel that women ought to have more angelic, closer-to-God morals and assume they are somehow the better choice regardless of their appearance and attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:29 PM
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Every little boy learns that pretty girls prefer pretty boys in kindergarten. It’s baffling that grown men pretend they didn’t notice that attractive people prefer dating attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:13 PM
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Has anyone suggested that this particular attempt at bucking convention is self-sabotage? “She can’t fire me! I quit!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:11 PM
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Men are hurt by it? Umm… yeah, there’s this thing called the internet. Social media was jam packed with men howling in existential pain and self righteous indignation for fucking months after this stupid analogy floated to the top. You might also take the time to look up, because the very thread you are in begins with a man who is profoundly insulted by the bear analogy. Here, I’ll help you find it. It’s the fourth comment above this one. ⬆️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:09 PM
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I have a better idea. Tell women that men would choose the bear over them, and see what happens. Or, barring another boring rehash of this stupid analogy, remind yourselves what happened when men said “We are going our own way, and boy howdy women are gonna miss us when we’re gone!” If that isn’t sufficient, remind women that sex bots are on the horizon and that women are replaceable with technology. And women will shrug and wander off. Not hurt. Not offended. Utterly unbothered. I ask you… why …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:06 PM
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I think a lot of men would choose the bear over women And women collectively shrug and go back to whatever they were doing. Men really need to dig deep and figure out why they are so hurt by the bear analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:01 PM
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while giving nothing in return Men here must despise their mothers. Both misogyny and a lack of dating success are overwhelmingly due to terpers’ Mommy issues. Red/black pill men really need therapy to unravel their indelible hatred of Mother. It's only men who are being exploited Women sacrifice their health, their freedom, their autonomy and the entirety of their adult lives to raise children, half of whom are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:59 PM

I’m just here to remind terpers to apply skepticism and demand empirical proof before believing every stupid thing a grifter posts and to ask men to stop spreading rage bait. You guys are destroying your little brothers’ chances at a social life and any kind of happiness with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:45 PM
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With all that said, it's clear that many western women, inspired by feminism and misandry, have chosen to abuse these privileges. Are ya gonna spank us, Daddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:12 PM
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Lifelong masking is a horrible mental and emotional burden. The only good thing to come out of TikTok is that stupid, insensitive trend where NT people pretend to have “a touch of the ‘tism” in order to describe a quirk. But at least it’s normalized the conversation about ASD, masking, and debilitating social habits. I’m still angry that in twenty years, no one made a popular and successful dating app for ND folks. Not to limit dating options, but to include. Plenty of introverts and independent…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:33 PM
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In interactions, things like facial expressions, how people respond, body language and tone all contribute to how someone's perceived. The problem is that folks on the spectrum and those with very little social experience already know they cannot communicate well in person, either. Cannot relax and enjoy socializing, so they don’t try beyond following some grifter’s prescriptive cold approach. Which also fails, for the same reason. Men with the above social issues know they are hobbled and stick…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:29 PM
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Imagine how women would feel if most men would never date half of them or find them attractive ,that they only went for the most attractive women. imagine how most women would feel if no matter how hard they worked on their appearance or personality most men wouldn't want to be with them because of their height or because they were born in a low socioeconomic class. Imagine if most men were not just cold towards women but outright hostile to them displaying any interest towards them. THAT's how …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:18 PM
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I can see how you arrived at that conclusion, considering that men revere access to sex as an accomplishment on par with homeownership, but you suffer blindness to the woman’s perspective. Men are “willing” to accept women on almost any terms because they regard women as a resource rather than an equal partner deserving of equal consideration and equal importance in a relationship. If a man assumes he must present a portfolio and resume to the bank in order to purchase a GDT/R8/911/woman, he’s d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:10 PM
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“You could have already bought a house with a two car garage and had 2.5 kids with a stay at home wife if only you hadn’t wasted your life on those goddamn video games and played a team sport instead.” said Boomer fathers to their underachieving sons Oh wait, the undeniable pressure to “man up” from mid century dads somehow affects women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:58 PM

The two most “toxicly masculine” groups in existence are butch lesbians Butch lesbians serve as proof that it isn’t difficult to maintain a masculine aura and conduct oneself with equal parts competence and sensitivity to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:54 PM
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Men have to care to be providers. Makes this claim ⬆️ Then immediately compares the care for a woman with the care of livestock. To plant the tree today that will shade the next generation is inherently caring, and men have provided that care since the beginning of agriculture and animal husbandry. Both are resources. A man’s care, as you admit here, is equitable with the care of an investment in livestock. One thing about this sub is how comfortable men are with confessions like this. Lonelines…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:50 PM
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No you can’t. You can link phony rage bait designed to fool socially inept men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:02 AM
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So cute when men pretend women don’t have a sexual identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:00 AM
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It never stops working. Outside of this space, men are aware of their limitations and adjust their desires accordingly. Red pill lies to men, as usual. Many women hit a second wind in middle age and some report the best sex they’ve ever had. Granted, they aren’t having that sex with the manchild they married, but they do rediscover their sexuality with an independent man later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:58 AM
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Women don’t have to imagine shit. All of us who are under forty know that men trained their dicks to porn and filtered social media pics; women don’t pretend they are ugly, short, balding men’s first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 11:23 PM
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Gym is still gym, and athletic teams are still full plus bench riders, no idea what you are talking about. None of you have proven that boys aren't a pain in the ass since their parents are permissive "boys will be boys". But men also claim that they design, construct, and maintain the infrastructure while apparently suffering an inordinate amount of trauma in elementary school. Got anything to say about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:46 PM
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I'm not discussing dating. I'm referring to this ",men can have the right to complain if the media doesn't suit their tastes although the media is under no obligation to conform to them." I can make a post inviting women to shred popular, notable men for their shortcomings in the same style and enthusiasm men use when degrading and demeaning famous women. You think men will be okay with that? Or will they collectively shit their pants and the pants of the men next to them when women write about …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:44 PM
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women have limited time to have kids so they better hurry and find the right guy. Nope. Women are fertile for 30-40 years, and can get healthy sperm on demand. But having finite eggs by itself doesn't make it more noble for a woman to be superficial in her dating choices than men. It really sounds like the argument is "women are picky, superficial, etc because we have to be, whereas men's superficiality is by selfish choice". Yep, pretty much. So their dating choices aren't driven by a sense of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:21 PM
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The number of sperm and number of eggs is completely irrelevant. Both men and women use a very small fraction of their eggs or sperm. Wow, great job missing the point. Who invests more in the rare gametes, and who can blow billions into dirty socks and continue their uninterrupted life apace? Any guy who is a good guy Outliers aren't worthy of note. he's most likely bringing in the majority of money, which is also a necessary part of raising a family. He's making the same money he made when sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:17 PM

Some straight women aren't into needy men, that doesn't mean they want to be dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:14 PM

They demand rights from men they are not attracted to. Jfc because dispensing sex isn’t required for equal rights? Women with Down’s, Angelman’s, hearing or sight impairment, and any and all forms of limiting chromosome or developmental disorders qualify for equal rights. Same for men. Who keeps informing men that women are subordinate accessories with an obligation to serve men? Where do men get this stuff from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:01 PM
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If a person knows they are unattractive, they also know they are limited to similarly unattractive partners, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:29 PM
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Intellectualising is a trauma response For people with intrusive thoughts or OCD, not most people. If those people aren't seeking medical intervention and CBT or some other constructive adaptation to adversity, what can anyone do to reach them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:28 PM

While I admit that half or more of woke idealogy is Christian based, derived from the New Testament teachings of Jesus, the other half is science based, with supporting evidence and fact. What is the anti-woke agenda based on? Because it sure appears to trickle down from the wealthy old men who run the country, and their disinformation campaigns which are suddenly veering away from Christian teachings and leaning hard into white power.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:46 PM
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How do you explain contradictingly wildly with the red pill rhetoric which informs men to put off dating and socializing until they are in their thirties and forties and make significant money?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:43 PM
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Does this not by default imply that you actually have very high standards, since pretty every guy meets these basic standards A woman produces around 300 potentially viable eggs in a lifetime, presuming she's healthy for the duration of her fertile window. Pregnancy, birth, and gestation are taxing-to-debilitating and the product is 18-26 years of round the clock care, concern, expense, and all at the expense of a mother's autonomy. A man produces a quadrillion sperm. 1,000,000,000,000,000 poten…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:08 PM

Anti-woke consists of men who feverishly support anti-intellectualism, lack critical thinking and comment and share obvious disinformation, men who misinterpret statistics, economic trends, and misattribute political decisions to the wrong party. Anti woke men subscribe to harmful and ludicrous conspiracies, wind up in hospital because they or their children are unvaxxed against diseases that were easily preventable or nearly eradicated, men who believe in "flat earth", "Big Foot", "cryptids" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:50 PM

There is nothing that women desire more than the freedom they perceive to have been robbed of by the world. This is true. But it has nothing to do with feeling lesser than men, and everything to do with the understanding that the predators who gleefully limit women's autonomy and freedom have the advantage of violence, as well as the immortal echoes of Puritanical history which paints women as the occasions to sin. Everything horrific which happens to girls and women: they brought on by a) being…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:40 PM
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There are far too many competent fathers and competent men in caring professions like medicine, primary and secondary education, non-profits, and counseling positions to support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:32 PM
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Define phallic dynamics please. Oh wait, it was defined by Marilyn Frye fifty years ago. “To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:31 PM

Oh. Damn shame men suffering depression will be ridiculed and shamed during the anti-woke regime. Men who get cheated on will be regarded as beta chumps. Men who are unable to pull young, attractive women will be laughed out of the bars and breakrooms. Old men who desperately try to get the attention of sexy, younger women will be laughed at and physically beaten by true alpha men and white knights. Anti-woke men despise weaker, unsuccessful poor men, and mercilessly ridicule men who can't pull.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:18 PM
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Attractive and desirable men and women all get married and have families. Confirmation bias: a cognitive bias which describes the tendency to favor information that confirms one's existing beliefs or biases. Sampling error: the discrepancy between a sample's characteristics and the true characteristics of the population at large If a man trains his algorithms to show him grift and rage bait, he's going to assume the handful of naive women who had sex with a man they met online then felt fooled o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:08 PM

As someone who frequently returns men’s insults in kind, I’m fully in favor of making fun of the way men in the media look, up to and including their height, makeup, lifts, hair line, fake hair, hair transplants, obvious cosmetic procedures, awkward posture and facial expressions, moobs, guts, rumors about their dick size, disharmony of facial features, peculiar proportions, small hands, weak wrists, and staggering insecurity. We good? Can man handle the criticism they level at women as though i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:44 PM
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You guys have got to stop fantasizing attractive men as immoral, mythical immortals. They are just people with the same life plans and goals as everyone else. And like everyone else, they outgrow messing around and settle down with someone they love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:48 AM
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Studies are the only thing which will convince me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:00 PM
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What are the same behaviors you speak of? I’ve never seen girls draw and carve dicks all over school, haven’t seen women jerking off in public restrooms or dressing rooms or exposing themselves in drive thrus and parking lots, haven’t seen women punching holes through walls to intimidate their families, haven’t seen women destroying electronics because they lost a game…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:55 PM
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If she did the work of a sex worker and multiple other jobs without pay, she didn’t take advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:52 PM
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“Boys will be boys” appeared in the lexicon in 1600, and nothing has changed. Men punch holes in walls and destroy property when they lose a bet, when their team loses. Disruptive behavior is tolerated with boys, and poise and decorum is demanded of girls. Boys are allowed to tumble and wrestle around like puppies, girls are expected to fold their hands in their laps and hide their bra straps. No one has ever held boys to the same standards of conduct and manners as girls are held to, up to and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:32 PM
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Do have some evidence this is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:25 PM
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Anything he owned prior to marrying is his, and anything they accumulated during the marriage is half. And his half is far cheaper than paying an actual sex worker, a maid, a cook, a personal shopper, a laundress, a secretary, a personal servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:21 PM
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why does actual redpill advice tell them to get in the gym, make more money, and improve themselves? If those men were already fit and athletic, they wouldn’t need to pretend to be by going to the gym at some big age to impress women with their phony interest in fitness. If men already had professional and financial ambition, they wouldn’t have to be told to pretend ambition to trick women into making them believe they are natural go-getters. If men wanted to be better people, they wouldn’t have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:19 PM
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Ask TRP, this sub, men’s rights, seduction, and every location based pick up sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:47 PM
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Let’s tell the truth here. The red pill instructs men to fake who they are, fake what they have to offer, to hide their sexism and bigotry, to conceal porn and gaming dependence. “Fake it till you make it” is the motto. The blue pill, which is the norm, informs people to represent their strengths and weaknesses honestly and to find the people who they relate to, the people who share their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:24 PM
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How in the world could you possibly think that women from a third world country do desperate to escape poverty they marry men they aren’t attracted to and have nothing in common with could possibly thrive and take care of themselves financially? Only educated or skilled immigrants can survive in the US independently. Don’t equate servitude and desperation with loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:20 PM
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Loyal or trapped
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 07:13 PM
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For all you and I know, they came over with the full intention of taking advantage of a stupid, unpopular American man and intended to stay long enough to obtain legal status. But don’t worry about them, nearly every college, women’s charity and domestic violence org reaches out to help these women escape if they are being physically, sexually, emotionally, or financially abused abused or isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:59 PM
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Who told you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:51 PM
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Because they are undereducated and afraid of losing their children. In larger cities those women have charitable legal resources, but if a man drags them into the Midwest or the Appalachian mountains, it’s going to take them longer to figure out how to prove financial abuse, isolation, neglect, and rape. But if men go about it the right way and actually try to connect with women based on shared values and treat those women well, men have a much greater chance of succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:16 PM
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What’s the difference between bet bux and a man who provides a green card? Both are paying a woman to pretend interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:54 PM
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I would also say that men have lost their minds at this point and are willing to burn it all down. Lead with honesty then, idc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:37 PM
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It's okay to admit you cannot defend the position you took to indict women, and admit that men are hypocritical on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:32 PM
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I responded to your OP, which is open to anyone. "Of course, in the case of "Grape," no one is against getting an abortion" Is it about the "baby" or not? "
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:11 PM
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I responded to a debate post with a counter point. When are you going to stop targeting me?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:05 PM
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Say it with your full chest, OP, in full caps. IF SHE DIDN'T ENJOY THE SEX AND IS A VICTIM OF VIOLENCE, ABORTION IS MORAL IF SHE ENJOYED THE SEX, SHE'S A MURDERER in the case of "Grape," no one is against getting an abortion Every single man who claims he's okay with abortion after rape is a fucking immoral liar who never once cared about the "rights" of an embryo. So let's just get that out of the way and expose their blatant hypocrisy. While we're speaking of hypocrisy, let's also include the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:47 PM
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I understand you’ve had bad experiences This is a near universal experience among women that many men (even here) admit. Men here argue vehemently in favor of deception in order to "win" against their perceived competitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:37 PM
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If a woman move to the US then gets married to an American man I wouldn't consider that different in any way that matters tons of people build relationships through the internet. That's a normal, healthy relationship built on shared values and shared interests, same as any other?? and thereby prettier You know, just admit that passport bros don't care about shared values or shared interests, they just want a fuck toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:35 PM
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Odds are if she's attracted to a shitty man, she's equally shitty, But I have hope they might work towards healing one another. Marriage isn't an AA meeting, where damaged people tend to spiral down into the trauma bond. It's entirely possible for two mediocre or two damaged people to heal one another, but that will never happen if he's trapped in a cycle of black pill grifter crab bucket rhetoric, and she will never heal if she suffers family trauma and exposure to hatred and fear of men who mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:33 PM
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The comment I replied to said nothing about values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:31 PM
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why not be stagnant Not my conversation, but wtf? Because you aren't the only person in the family, nor are you the planet surrounded by subordinate orbiters who adjust their lives according to your singular experience??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:46 PM
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There are 166,100,000 men in the US today. There are 5,000 "mail order" or green card brides. The chances a man will actually marry a foreign woman is 33,220:1. 25% of those marriages end within 15 years. Red and black pilled men never stop complaining about paying for the first date, never stop fretting over being considered "beta bux" because they are unappealing to American women. Why are they so eager to fund the entire life of a woman from another country who they have nothing in common wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:44 PM
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<vomits/>
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:25 PM
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Addicts and thieves don't commit, and narcissists cheat. But Chad? The happy and popular kid? He commits just fine. Happy people mature and desire the same things their peers and their parents enjoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:24 PM

It's the part where they claim "I don't want to settle for less just because she's older or has a child" when she is also settling for less, since he's nearly always asocial to antisocial, has gaming or porn habits, is embittered, wildly controlling and envious of more sexually successful or attractive men. And will forever and always be gawking at attractive women and slobbering over porn or attractive coworkers/classmates vacation pics. That's the thing men here refuse to admit: that no matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:23 PM
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I just can’t fathom a world where most people have absolutely no clue on anything core to who they are until they’re like 40. Have you ever asked women why they divorce when the oldest child has graduated or near it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:39 PM
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Andropause starts earlier than menopause, I don't know why men find it so very convenient to leave this fact out. Men become clingy, weepy, easily moved to emotions other than anger, among other things. Since most men on this sub are older than most women on this sub, and most are over 35, I feel this needs to be addressed each and every time menopause is addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:35 PM
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They didn’t truly know who they were and so lacked self-awareness to select a partner that actually fit them and their values 4 He completely misrepresented himself and his level of competence and independence long enough to secure a commitment. He pretended to be neat and clean, pretended to be kind to strangers, love babies, and care about domestic and wild animals. He pretended to be Mr. Fixit and repair all the broken things, and provided solutions to the problematic things. He showed an ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:31 PM
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constant condemnation directed toward young impressionable men and boys as inherently toxic or problematic is a start Why should women just take the abuse and criticism which has been a constant of male culture for decades, if not eons? Do me a favor, because I suspect you overlook the prevailing rhetoric from men towards women, via the male gaze. Go find the hashtag "he's so mid" on TikTok and watch a couple videos to see the comments men make about beautiful women. Be sure to zoom in on the ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:23 PM
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Then why did you claim the main body of the clitoris is limited to the 3D model that is popular among non-science majors?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:50 PM
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The black community didn’t call cops because of valid reasons having to do with racist alignment with Klan ideology. Had nothing to do with “black morals” or whatever you are trying to promote as a code of ethics. And it remains true today. If a black victim of domestic violence calls police, chances are the victim, not just the perpetrator, might be arrested, shot, or murdered by police. Don’t act like you forgot that body cams magically turn off in black communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:44 PM
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Choose better? Isn’t that what men say 100% of the time? Of all a man’s experiences with women are negative, he needs to choose better. Right? Choose the unattractive, unpicked, awkward and friendless women, because they are the most loyal partners. Word for word, follow men’s advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:14 PM
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Post your citation, and while you’re at it, post the brain and pretend the brain doesn’t have millions of networks which branch off from the brain, the brain stem, and the spinal cord. Looking forward to your evidence, as well as whatever hilarious model which shows the brain detached from the rest of the nervous system. I suppose you believe the penis is free floating as well, with its own brain, detached from the prostate and spinal column. Show us that, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:09 PM
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what do you suggest we do when they start firing? Put toddlers on our shoulders as human shields?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:57 PM

I haven’t been wrong yet, and men here confirm they lie and misrepresent themselves in order to win a woman over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:56 PM

You didn’t look far enough to see the entire network of fine nerves embedded in the muscle, but idc. Not a single man demanding that women masturbate during sex had any idea before today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:04 PM
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18 year old boys who are not considered old enough to drink or smoke should be allowed to sign up to die for rich old men, nor register for the draft. But then again, I don’t feel entitled to the piles of dead bodies of men under 21 who “protect Muh freedom”. Did you serve? If not, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:42 PM
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Hey, so I don’t want to talk with you anymore for reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:32 PM

Good god. No wonder men are so shit in bed. “The Still-Misunderstood Shape of the Clitoris” The Atlantic. Science sources at the end of the article which reveal the massive network of internal nerves, plus a bonus picture of the main body of the clitoris for the masses of incurious men out there whining that women have “low libido”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:32 PM
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Adult women also have children, and as the primary caretakers, likely have more common sense than the male teenagers the military recruits for cannon fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:29 PM
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How generous. Re-do your math to included the teenaged girls between the ages of 15-17 (that’s too young to serve, FYI, but not too young to rape and impregnate by older men) who were impregnated by men five+ years older. You going to take in their babies so they can serve the draft dodging, vet ridiculing POTUS? Hmmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:40 PM
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No it’s okay, we can stick to my original claims and your original challenges and claims that the current admin supports vets. But if you get bored in the next few hours, you’re welcome to figure out why mothers tasked with gestation, nursing, and child rearing are less enthusiastic to run into cannon fire for rich old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:33 PM
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Because the men here are shamelessly, proudly bad in bed. Guess we might end up sharing Chad after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:29 PM

Underemployed for sure, but not turning down this salary and position until I, like most (redacted) employees, are in danger while the current admin dismantles and redirects our funds to the military contractors they are deeply invested in. But don’t worry, it will “trickle down”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:29 PM
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Ma’am I’ll have time for direct quotes and videos supporting my claims later, what will you do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:26 PM
1

It’s just that I’ve never seen an engineer downgraded to a combat role.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:25 PM
1

Facts. You done have “time” for supportable facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:24 PM
1

What happened to all your claims of combat duty?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:18 PM
1

I have clients until six, but I can’t wait to show you the built in purposeful handicaps to that phony ass bill. Any adult voter should read every bills and find the riders (look it up) and spam hidden inside of bills designed to convince constituents that politicians are working for the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:17 PM

That was my initial intention, but men exposed themselves as inept, entitled lovers who may or may not be heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:11 PM
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Did you see or perform combat, and do you believe that the general public is unaware that educated men and women in protected roles are instructed in basic combat but are protected by human drones expected to sacrifice their bodies so that nerds can punch in numbers on keyboards? Because gunner on convey isn’t the role you served, if you were honest with your earlier posts. Enjoy that military discount at Home Depot while laughing at homeless vets trying to sleep in parks under shrubbery while t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:06 PM

To expose men who feel entitled to women’s bodies and who suffer an embarrassing yet willful lack of education and affinity for female partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:03 PM
1

Conservatives don’t defend the mistreatment of veterans they are actually the ones most vocal about helping veterans. Conservatives voted for a man who humiliates veterans. Conservatives support the arrest and imprisonment of homeless vets. Conservatives are responsible for hostile architecture and for-profit prisons, for the massive budget cuts to the VA.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:02 PM

where my five college degrees finally got me in a Stolen valor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:59 PM

Did you fight? M4 qualified? Or support? (everyone knows it’s a support role)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:52 PM

So you were never at risk of death, never fought, never risked your life. But somehow consider yourself equal to your brothers who died so you could live a safe, protected, cushy life like every other civilian? How convenient. Enjoying those benefits and discounts while your brothers in arms rot in graves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:47 PM
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Oh please defend the negative treatment of POWs, service members, and the shameless neglect of homeless veterans more. Love to see conservatives confess their disgust for the men they pretend they revere to entice them to die for generational wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:46 PM
1

Come back when you can defend how the current admin treats veterans. Until then, don't bother addressing me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:40 PM
3

He's the masculine archetype.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:37 PM
2

They risked their lives so that men with generational wealth could get richer. And look where the US is now, the laughing stock of the entire world, with a reality television star in charge and tweeting about how he hates Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen. Imagine the feeling of losing a child, a sibling, or a spouse so that this clown could enrich himself by destroying the Constitution and shredding the emoluments clause.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:36 PM
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That's what I said. If someone isn't enthusiastic and engaged, stop. With like... ten exclamation points. This is for every inept and entitled man in this thread. If your partner isn't enjoying it, she's just laying there or "starfishing", stop and find a partner who is into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:32 PM
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Readers will accept your concession that you cannot, infact, write a quick tutorial on how to stimulate the clitoral glans, since it's "the most obvious and easiest way of making the vast majority of women cum". If it's "so easy", men can do it, right? crickets
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:30 PM
2

Do you really believe that men who are willing to risk their lives for a $45,000 per year so that rich old men can profit from their deaths are sane? That they are noble or good partners? That men who are willing to run into cannon fire and risk Havana syndrome, prisoners of war, landmines, brainwashing, nuclear weapons, firebombs, dirty bombs, assassinations, and airstrikes by men or unmanned drones are somehow the most chivalrous men in the world instead of men who suffer a deathwish or hero f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:26 PM
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How would any man or woman know that he's interested or invested in sex if he's timid and prudish?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:21 PM
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Jesus then why in the hell didn't you stop? I'd rather die than force myself on a reluctant partner. Gross. Goddamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:18 PM
2

You know better than this. You cited US, then switched when called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:17 PM
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Because an ogre who is an inept and clumsy or selfish lover isn't going to get them anywhere close to an orgasm anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:14 PM
1

If he's the best man ever, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:13 PM
2

Because they are concentrating on something or someone who did it right, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:12 PM
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I've been saying this for months, maybe a couple years. The retroactive jealously sub is a cuck hive. So is the limerance sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:11 PM
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Neither are men, so men with this attitude should put that thing away or masturbate. Men aren't entitled to vagina unless it's fun, because there are far too many men out there who are into mutual gratification. Pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:09 PM
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Not wrong. A formerly prolific poster confessed his deliberate incompetence with a post which read something like this: "while she refuses to make eye contact and shuts her eyes and focuses like the Buddha on her orgasm" ...because dude... she's fantasizing about someone or something else, and trying to escape whatever alien fumbling you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:08 PM
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Funny how you suddenly jumped to other countries after posting this: They make up 16% of the US military. Argue in good faith, can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:05 PM
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Why do you need to be enticed to do a better job? When literally using a human's body as a fleshlight and depositing potentially fertile and diseased sperm into her body? If her excitement isn't paramount to your excitement, why do that to someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:05 PM
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16% of men are dishonorably discharged. 25% of men who join the military are mentally ill, with 11% suffering multiple disorders. Got anymore stats you want to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:01 PM
2

You've never heard of Chad? The expectations of size, strength, competence, and social and athletic prowess?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:56 PM
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Meanwhile the man you respond to, who I consider ops because he's totally supportive of pick-up, is one of the top five most masculine men here, because he loves women and isn't remotely threatened by either male or female competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:44 PM
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What back-breaking, uber-masculine and taxing physical labor do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:42 PM
2

Indoor men, NEETS, computer science majors, tech support, and delivery drivers don't admit taking credit for all the work that miners, bricklayers, construction workers, high steel welders, underwater welders, oil riggers, refuse collectors, pavers, air traffic controllers, slaughterhouse workers, professional athletes. The only thing in common indoor men have with those men are chromosomes, and women share half those chromosomes while also raising whole humans to functional adulthood while men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:39 PM
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Men who pretend to be incapable of raising children are not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:29 PM
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That's what 80% of the men in this thread should do. They despise women and are obviously uncomfortable with female sexuality. Paying for it would satisfy all their urges to use and devalue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:27 PM

And so deeply and unsettlingly uncomfortable with the idea of female sexuality independent of their use of her body. So many levels of male generational entitlement and insecure cuck trauma revealed in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:26 PM
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Seeing your partner get off should always be put front and center. Yabbut... not as an obligation, but because that excites. If it's an obligation, just pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:25 PM
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"Hate you"? Listen, the reference to mental hospitals and crisis means you have no business on this sub, which is for adults who debate (that means argue, sometimes vehemently) to support their competing sociopolitical or religious and cultural views. I have no idea who you are, but please take care of yourself and avoid spaces like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:25 PM
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It address female competence, and highlighted every single competent trait men are inexplicably incompetent with. And I didn't even mention giving women orgasms, which I learned today are a Herculean feat men are incapable of achieving, whilst women watch men decode spyware, encode spy-proof encryption, dig diamonds from the boiling center of Earth, fly to space and back, repair entire cities devastated by hurricanes, sneaker waves, tornadoes, blizzards, and fire. But changing a diaper or rememb…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:23 PM

If it's so easy, why can't men do it? Didn't men... design, build, and maintain the infrastructure? Wouldn't the whole world "collapse" if men disappeared? If men can maintain the power grid, supply clean water to huge cities, start and prevent wars, put out fires, decode foreign spy intel, code encryption which protects identity and money, hit homeruns, execute perfect chess moves... ...then surely they can eke out an orgasm from a willing woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:15 PM
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Everything has to be perfect right away... like in the novels and movies... Nope. They just have to be equally invested and fascinated in their partner's enjoyment as their own. That's becoming rare as the red and black pills poison unappealing men and attractive ND men. Women aren't required to offer their bodies for charity for disaffected or disabled men. Those men can pay a woman to pretend. Women are fully realized human beings with their own autonomy and agenda; they aren't required by any…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:09 PM

Exhausted and disappointed hot take: men who already struggle with social cues for... reasons... resent the process of learning how individual women get excited and reach satisfaction. Analogous with their frustration with all social cues. They want a trusted, rote process with zero variation and diversification, they want a predictable performance which matches the search terms the prefer on porn. If a woman has the patience or tolerance for this: perfect match. Most women would never allow the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:06 PM

They don't know. They are pretending to know, and still doubling down and pretending that the clitoris is too tiny to address. They really don't know and don't care. One of the posters who deleted his posts claimed he was taught about the clitoris, but I have access through work to every single science and medical journal, and the actual clitoris isn't taught in any public school or community college format. It's solely self-taught by curious people excited about mutually gratifying sex, or peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:00 PM
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Oh, you can't support your claim and write a simple tutorial? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:54 PM
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Horseshit. Men universally leave their "legacy" alone with women 90% of the time, and 90% of the children's lives. The same men expect her to propel a child the size of a pointy, boney watermelon out of the same vagina which can tighten around his pinky and immediately transition into WonderMOM and bounce back to his sexy lover immediately. He expects her to take care of the exhausting minutia of his Legacy's/ Legacies' nutrition, growth, health, exposure to pathogens, exposure to peripheral fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:53 PM
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You can clearly see how men who are frustrated with dating speak about women here. Do you believe there is a difference in how men and women vent about frustrations? Do you regard one as "worse" than the other, and if so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:38 PM

I didn't attack you at all, but I'm amused by your contradictory statement, as will any and every reader. I'll post it again for posterity. if your trying to suggest that stimulating it is not the easiest way to make a woman orgasm Why aren't you informing the OP and all the other entitled men here how easy it is to stimulate the clitoris to orgasm? Write the step by step tutorial right now. What's stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:33 PM
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This post is all over the place. What point are you making besides the inability to relate to women and hating women who realize they that child rearing isn't for them? Most women here either have kids or want kids someday, so who are you attacking and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:31 PM

that stimulating it is not the easiest way to make a woman orgasm, Irony so thick I taste blood. holy shit. If it's so easy, just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:25 PM

Yeah there are whole fetish/porn categories which revolve around "free use" and there are apparently women who are totally fine and even excited about being used, maybe because it excuses their responsibility and helps dissipate religious or cultural shame? None of our business, but there are definitely women and men who find the emotionally detached use of their body pleasurable, at least some of the time. No big deal. But we aren't getting that from the angry men here. They are mad that they "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:24 PM

Oh hey, I thought I missed something and checked your username. I don't humiliate men online, I use social media for learning, not for social clout. I don't have a single photo of myself or any of my friends or family, no videos of men. I am a consumer, not a customer. But the second I realize I've been lied to, I'll happily pretend to be taking a photo for "memories" when the man who swore he won a trophy for golf then swings like a monkey, who knows everything about hiking freaks the fuck out …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:20 PM

Most men aren't clueless oafs, but trp has created two generations of angry, rejected, disaffected men who hate the women they desire, and also taught incurious, anti-intellectual men mid century sexual intel. I don't even have to mention the damage weaning a penis on porn causes. If a man isn't a porn star, he doesn't deserve dick worship. If he has no interest in her orgasm, she isn't required to be interested in his. If such a man has access to a willing naked woman, she's done enough by prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:15 PM

Using the search engine of your choice, find the Atlantic article about the 3D model of the clitoris. If you are debating in good faith, you will admit you have a gap in your education.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:11 PM

Okay at this point, I'm going to ask, but I'm going to use the collective "you". Answer however you like, by guessing how other men might feel based on your powers of empathy, or answer for yourself, idc. Do you enjoy seeing her get turned on and getting off, or are you going through the motions in order to get access to her body? Do you find figuring out the mood, the tempo, and the urgency fun, or aggravating and frustrating? Do you enjoy the variation, how sometimes it's slow and affectionate…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:05 PM
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No, he doesn't post. He just sits with me on breaks sometimes and asks me to post questions or comments. He has a sister on the spectrum (one of my brothers is, too) who is trying to date and is working towards supporting her without making things worse for her. Trying to figure out what her prospects and pitfalls might look like. He's a good guy, and older man's man who loves his vulnerable sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:58 PM

It requires the cooperation of the partner who bears children. Source: any farm, anywhere. Any nature documentary about social mammals. Or, and this is going to tax red pilled men: science education.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:48 PM

Chad loves getting women off, that’s why he’s popular. Because he likes women and is into mutual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:47 PM

No fucking way these men are ever going to figure out that a woman’s primary sex organ is her brain. Imagine this scenario. Woman has sex for the first time with boyfriend A. Next day, he says or texts: “Last night was amazing. Can’t wait to tear into you again” vs boyfriend B: “Look I know you didn’t orgasm, but you could have masturbated while I used your vagina like a fleshlight”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:46 PM

Most women have a experienced a man who enjoyed getting them off, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:44 PM

This is my experience as well, with a sample size of four. Even the men I didn’t end up with are clearly turned on by their effect on women, and recognize that a woman’s primary sex organ is her brain. Flirting, teasing, promising a good time, and knowing when and how to kiss and touch indicate that a lot (I assumed it was most) men enjoy the whole process of seduction and pleasing. That’s why those men are popular, the confidence and interest in women conveys. Same for me. Discovering his favor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:43 PM
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Why are you certain that female choice doesn’t play a role, when most females reject beta males without consequence? In even the few notable cases where females in a tribe sneak off with a younger male, she is still choosing which male she prefers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:37 PM

Nope, we are just dismissing men’s laze. If a woman has to masturbate to reach orgasm, he isn’t worth the effort or the risk. Too many GGG men out there who love giving pleasure as much as receiving. No women desire an inept lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:11 PM
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Yeah that isn’t true, it’s that a particular mod and I share an interest in science and argue over the same topic often, so we cross swords often. Shit thing to do, mod, you know who you are. I’m rarely if ever in the daily thread, stick to one or two topics. And some of my posts are from a coworker who is fascinated but he won’t make a profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:07 PM
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Of course, the extent to which men found ways to turn a force advantage into sexual access during the course of human evolution is complex. Anyone who has ever lived on or near a farm sees how this process works, speculative evo-psych isn’t necessary to explain a practical process. Bulls and rams are particularly destructive and territorial, even when not in rut. They also aren’t very tasty due to the testosterone, so male animals on meat farms are castrated soon after birth. It isn’t profitable…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:04 PM

The knowledge replaced the guessing about the “G spot”, and solved the mystery of why the sweet spot for orgasms caused by internal stimulation is in different locations for different women. Some cannot orgasm without external stimulation, some prefer internal, some prefer both. But the clitoris is like an iceberg, and all the terrific parts buried inside lead to those amazing contractions during her orgasm. And provides multiple routes of stimulation, and explains why penetration feels good to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:02 AM
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No one asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:58 AM
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Since most female mammals reject males when they are not in estrus, and females which live in tribes or groups will band together to beat the dogshit out of males which attempt rape, the reasonable assumption is that sexual pleasure facilitates copulation in the few mammals which have sex for pleasure and/or bonding.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:58 AM
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I’m not remotely interested in this tangent, I just pointed out your study doesn’t relate at all to sexual pleasure of either partner. Which is the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:56 AM

There are adults here discussing sexual pleasure, no one needs a lecture on Puritanical ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:55 AM
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Huh? I didn’t ask about the number of partners. The topic is sexual pleasure and orgasm, and nothing in that study points to performing oral sex until the receiver reaches orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:46 AM
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I’m not aware of any modern debate about the function of the clitoris, which is universally known to be solely dedicated to providing sexual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:44 AM

Dude women don’t want to get pregnant in every sexual encounter even when they are with the love of their life. Apply reason and common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:44 AM
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What does it say? I’m using a work device and can’t use any social media apps, I have to use the old version of Reddit on a browser.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:43 AM
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Can you point to a source, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:28 AM

Did you read anything in a study about STIs about sexual pleasure or orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:26 AM

I’m don’t know, I can’t see flair and haven’t changed anything. There is a solid possibility a mod here who hates me changed something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:25 AM

Men who have a death grip, a porn habit, are out of shape, suffer religious or cultural inhibition, body image issues, or who have health problems and/or meds which hinder sexual pleasure have lots of trouble having an orgasm. (Same for women)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:21 AM

No one taught you that men have exponentially fewer inhibitions, and exponentially fewer chances of getting pregnant or being harmed during the process?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:19 AM

That’s the typical way sex goes down, if the man has any interest in mutual pleasure. Sadly there are only a few men like you in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:16 AM

That says nothing about the frequency nor does it say anything about bringing a partner to orgasm. That’s a study about how HPV gets transmitted, has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual pleasure. Participants in the survey could have “tried it once in high school”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:14 AM

Probably desperately trying to arch her back and hold her hips in a position which stimulates her while he starts and stops, ruining the rhythm and interrupting her pleasure because he can’t last.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:10 AM

Describe it, then, and please indicate the health book so that I can see what you claim to have learned in class.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:07 AM
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That’s the Freudian take that men clung to for nearly a century. You are old enough to know how penis-centered male sexuality is, and that most men, especially conservative men, feel that the penis is the primary tool and the primary focus. It’s outdated information and another example of misogyny in medicine. Medical professionals know that the clitoris is the only human organ which exists solely for sexual pleasure. The penis serves multiple purposes: excretes urine, delivers gametes, and give…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:07 AM
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Most of the men here believed the clitoris is a tiny magic button that dispenses orgasms, and that only women know how to push. Incurious men flooded this thread with nonsensical hot takes, pretending to know all about how women “ought” to enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:00 AM

The clitoris wasn’t fully dissected and understood until about thirty years ago. The new information wouldn’t be in recent health texts in elementary or high school because of the political trends towards anti intellectualism and Puritanism. The clitoris is many times larger and more complex than most men know, and it’s the only human organ which exists solely for sexual pleasure. It’s taught in college, but few men here attended, and if they did, few took science or health based classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:58 AM

Pity you don’t take the time to learn more before responding with bad, outdated information.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:53 AM
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Sounds like some 60s/70s bad psychology and very penis centered. “Clitoral orgasms are immature/a mature woman orgasms via penetration” or something. Really outdated and based on bad data and male centered sexuality. The clitoris is huge, mostly internal, and wraps around three sides of the vagina. Penetration is stimulating the clitoris, but his style and his interest in her enjoying is what makes orgasms via penetration work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:45 AM
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Same. But it’s common here, it’s conservative entitlement to women’s bodies, I think. Don’t know if they hate sex or hate women, maybe a combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:40 AM
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Have you had to tell a woman how to touch you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:38 AM
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The way you and OP describe it, the man is using her body as a sex toy while she masturbates alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:20 AM
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I find the resentment expressed here really disturbing. If we can see how aggravated some men are at “having to learn how to get her off”, their partners have surely given up on it ever been mutually exciting and gratifying. If a partner was frustrated and rolling their eyes and barking orders to just do it yourself I’d hate them immediately and forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:19 AM
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Men: “Women, for Pete’s sake why can’t you just masturbate while we use your body the way we want to.” Also men: “Why do women ghost, why do women divorce, why are men are so lonely”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:08 AM
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You are not wrong. Women learn in high school and college that some men pay attention and learn how, when, and where to touch a woman, and others just paw blindly and wait for instructions. A bad experience just feels like she wasted her time and hope on a selfish centered man and it leaves a bad memory. But the first guy? That feels like love. Forever chasing that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:06 AM
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That works okay in doggie, not great in other positions. So gettin banged feels great when his pubic bone gets pressed, rubbed, or slammed into her clitoris. If her hand is in the way, he isn’t hitting the angles which feel great. If her hand is in the way, he’s barely penetrating or risking a slip out, which hurts. If her hand is in the way and he’s thrusting at a different tempo than she is, throws off the whole thing. If he’s just barely in and she does manage an orgasm, the contractions are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:53 AM
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Women do have a refractory period and not all women are multiorgasmic. But they are very good at paying attention to their partner’s reactions and adjusting accordingly. I made out with a woman in college and gave her an orgasm just kissing her neck and messing around underneath her clothes in the back seat of a car, and I’m not gay or bi. Men are just incredibly selfish and working off the “education” they think they received from watching commercial porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:47 AM
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This place is just some alternate universe where men resent women and want to punish them by depriving them of orgasms. I’ve only had four long term relationships but all four were more enthusiastic about my pleasure as their own. I don’t get it. Men spend years of their lives feverishly masturbating, so when they finally get a partner, why aren’t they enjoying the whole feast? They have no idea what they are missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:43 AM
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Odd question. His excitement excites me. Tearing him to pieces and getting him to the edge of losing control is what turns me on. Thanks to this thread, I was today years old when I discovered that people aren’t excited by their partner’s excitement. I’d die of shame and likely disgust if my partner wasn’t enthusiastic and well on his way to ecstasy. I could never use someone’s body then leave them unsatisfied and walk away whistling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:38 AM
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🙋‍♀️ I do. I’ll do all the work. I only have sex when in love, and when I’m in love, I’m not done until I’ve ruined him for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:32 AM
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Openly hating women while dying for female attention and validation is going to land all you red and black pill men in the nuthouse someday. You guys have got to work through this dilemma you’ve created for yourself. Never seen men so eager to cockblock themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:30 AM
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Do any of the men in this thread know that the clitoris is analogous to the penis and that the vast majority of it is buried inside and wraps around the vaginal canal? Or do men believe it’s just that tiny little button on the outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:26 AM
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Guys have no interest in women’s anatomy and most don’t know what the clitoris actually looks like and that the internal clitoris is enormous compared to the tiny button outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:24 AM
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Other men here admit they consider porn an education. I think I’d laugh, climb out of bed and block the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:19 AM
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Two women have no problem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:13 AM
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where the woman is on-top, upright and bouncing like an Amazon is a rarity. That’s to get you off, not herself off. What do you think bouncing straight up and down does for her? Some men really don’t know anything about The Angles, do they? Look, I’m not even going to quote you but everything you wrote is wrong, so wrong. When men are having sex, they are trying to postpone their orgasm. That means a lot of starting and stopping, changing tempo, changing positions. When a woman is working toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:09 AM
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🦀🪣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:29 AM

Nope. But the Karen meme is constant, which is poking fun at middle aged women. Men give women hell about their age constantly, and there isn’t anything women can do to stop a clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:03 PM
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I said women post them more often than men post shirtless pictures. Good god. You aren’t looking for photos of shirtless men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:00 PM

When do you see tall men acting out because they are tall, or being insecure and defensive because they are tall? Bullies come in all sizes, but the two do not compare because they don’t live the same experience. Tall women who are insecure about their attractiveness tend to bully short men, that’s a closer analogue for you. Or flat chested women who call busty women “fat”. Pick a better analogue if you want to bolster your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:00 PM

It's not acceptable in the mainstream discourse to bodyshame women in any way. Patently untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:54 PM
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I haven’t seen a lot of tall bullies, mostly because they don’t feel threatened by tall men or tall women and they generally aren’t an easy target to pick on. Imagine an ugly woman who get's belittled as ugly woman syndrome for being angry about her looks or even for being upset regardless Why “imagine”? If an ordinary to ugly women makes an appearance as a public figure, whether athlete or politician or actor or singer, men pile on to criticize her appearance. Not to admire her talent and accom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:53 PM

The point of body shaming is to blame someone’s defects on the obvious flaw they can’t deny. That’s how bullying works. If a guy gets unreasonably angry at light hearted teasing, his propensity for losing control of his emotions is the easy target. Making fun of a girl or woman’s features is the low hanging fruit for bullying women. A bad haircut or unfortunate birthmark for either. In Europe, it’s redheads. In the US, it’s weak chins or bad teeth. It isn’t limited to men’s height, it isn’t limi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:49 PM
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…you strawmanning No, it’s me laughing at your confirmation bias, which reads very much like a confession. I only rarely see women in bikinis, I look at the style and location of my friends’ vacation spots. Once again - men do not try to attain physiques that women claim to find attractive. Dude, you’re on Reddit, there are far more bookish and introverted women here who focus on the cerebral. How many attractive and muscular gym bros have you ever seen struggling for dates? Women do like muscul…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:10 PM

The campaigns to stop bulling against women have had zero effect on men, and now an army of disaffected men who have been rejected by women have doubled down on the body shaming and criticizing. One hundred years of making fun of women for being ugly, flat chested, flat bottomed, for gaining weight after pregnancy, for having no waist results in a pushback. No one should be surprised that women finally fought back and started noting short men and balding men. Men have been training women to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:59 PM
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I suppose if a man spends all his time searching for hot women in bikinis to jerk off to, he might think all women do that. And I suppose if a man is attracted to women in bathing suits, he might assume there are no styles and no fashion in swimsuits and vacation clothing. Yes, but they still don't try to attain physiques that women claim to find attractive, i.e. they don't listen to women just like women don't listen to men regarding nails and whatnot. Women who work out do find it appealing. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:44 PM
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Women have friends, and fashion is one of the hobbies women do together, it’s just one of many communal hobbies like design, photography, craft, etc. There is a lot more to social media than scrolling for vacation pics to jerk off to, which is what men use it for. And men openly admit they go to the gym to appeal to women or other men if they are gay or bi. The next time men host a bitchfest here or on Ask Men (it’s a daily event there, and one here yesterday) about all the things men hate about…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:33 PM
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I'm happy for your husband that he has a wife who can wake up one day, see him preparing french toasts and think "this is so romantic, I love him more than ever" Ask the men who got dumped if they miss it. Ask the divorced men living on Doritos and soda. Ask the men who have never had a woman show them love if they would find those daily acts of care and love to be special or romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:09 PM
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Since he can buy and prepare his own damn food. Just because a man assumes his wife wants to take over his mother’s role doesn’t mean she isn’t showing love by making an effort to show she cares about his happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:07 PM
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Men do performative chivalry because they believe that’s how they can outcompete other men. They buy flowers, jewelry, and drugstore cards on holidays because that’s men’s definition of what women expect. A man with any empathy and care for an individual woman learns how she and she alone likes to be loved. It might be a dozen roses, but it’s more likely roadside flowers and a picnic, or a houseplant and a home cooked meal that he shops for, prepares, and cleans up. You know, in the same way a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:51 PM
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Is this the thing where men decide that every piece of clothing a woman chooses is to attract men? That makeup isn’t for play and hobby, but is in fact somehow… for men? That women go out in public for the express purpose of hunting for men to lure? Because no. This is all men’s tendency to project their internal experience on others. Men complain constantly about women’s clothing, their makeup, their piercings, tattoos, choices in haircut or color. And women continue to do as they please withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:47 PM
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Those women prefer men with critical thinking skills because they expect to enjoy their lives with a man who can hold a conversation with the them and won’t embarrass them in front of friends and family with conspiracy theories or baseless arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:01 PM
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Most men make more than most women, it’s the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:12 AM
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Because they are busy and career focused and presumably looking for someone equally ambitious. Most men my age don’t own a home, but I do. And I didn’t buy it to impress men. I work for the same reason everyone else does, to support myself and buy the things I enjoy. Men get this wrong because almost everything they do revolves around getting female validation and they simply don’t realize that very few women live that way. If men would get their heads out of their asses they would understand th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:58 AM
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but women care much less about this, Wrong. If a woman is going to have sex for the duration of her natural life, it needs to be with a man she’s excited by and attracted to. "Gym-cels" or RedPillers who whine about being single when they go to the gym every day and have six pack abs. Because they are no fun and their personalities as interesting as a wet paper bag. The average woman also overestimates the importance of their career/education in attracting a man. Having a high paying job won't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:40 AM
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The reason women have been running to divorce court is because men haven’t been accountable. Generations of men used women for their bodies, for 24/7 365 on call labor. Maid/parent/teacher/incubator/chef/personal shopper/secretary/nurse/social events and holiday planner/husband’s sex toy who never received the gratification he did. Decades of unappreciated, unpaid labor for nothing?? Damn right she gets a portion of what they earned during the marriage. He couldn’t have paid a full time staff to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:32 AM
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Everyone who pays taxes has the right to vote. That includes kids who start working at 15 and six months. They have a better education in civics and government than all the lead poisoned Boomers anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:14 AM
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I don’t know why men bring up the military. I don’t know any woman who thinks teenagers ought to be signed up to die, or even sign months to years of their lives away in a contract. It’s too young for predators, too young for the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:24 PM
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The military recruits men as young as fifteen and asks them to sign contracts at 17 precisely because they are young, stupid, naive, and not fully formed. Most 21-25 year olds are too smart to run into war.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:33 PM
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Not in the US. Men have been recording girls and women and posting the results for years, I think they will be okay if they decide to bully and unaccompanied woman. Consider the camera my boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:31 AM
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Yeah that’s nothing. The creeper who leers and stares and tries to get a reaction out of her is disgusting. Internal thoughts without action are no big deal so long as things don’t escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:13 AM
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We are all filmed in public and it’s getting more pervasive by the day. And yeah, no one likes it. But predators don’t have to like it, they just have to stop and let women live. They have all the porn they could ever desire on their phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:47 AM
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Because they don’t want to be predated, and that’s the usual course. Do you have intrusive thoughts? Like a problem? Because some of them can be treated, even if OCD is severe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:46 AM
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Why shouldn’t I take a video if I’m being harassed?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:27 AM
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I don’t do anything with the videos, but I record them in case they escalate. They immediately stop and move away, obviously. Same thing they do if a man shows up. Men have zero respect for women, but they magically respect a camera or another man who stands by.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:12 AM
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Women just don’t want to be leered at, followed, or photographed. Most women have experienced slobbering, leering old men since they were children. But your thoughts are your own, so long as you don’t interfere or try to interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:07 AM
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Then GTFO social media if you don’t know how algos work. It’s widely understood that FB took over TikTok, the ads never stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:57 AM
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It’s disrespectful to her and weird as fuck that you think staring at her is going to turn her on. I’d pull out my phone, and I’ve only done that ten times in ten years. Don’t. That’s horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:56 AM

… … who could possibly know anyone’s thoughts unless they’ve taken action?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:48 AM
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If you aren’t communicating your thoughts, what is the problem? Is it intrusive thoughts? Religious guilt? This thread is all over the place because there are men in it who admit they deliberately try to mess with women’s sense of peace and safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:47 AM

What did you mean by your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:45 AM
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Do you “try to turn her on” if she’s with a male companion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:45 AM

Why is leering and gawking at women and teens considered “masculine” to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:01 AM
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How do men feel when women record and post leering men to social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:57 AM
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How do men feel about woman who record leering men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:57 AM
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Women also notice attractive, tall, fit, and confident men with good posture who are dressed appropriately for the environment and for the environment but they are still human beings deserving of respect. Even when wearing bike shorts and going shirtless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:54 AM
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How often do you go swimming? Most of us are dressed for the environment, and the awkward men in jorts and shoes are awkward and obvious and get chased off before they can record much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:52 AM
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Yeah they are. Men get off on creeping on women who don’t want them. It’s their shtick. But no man is fucking with me, I’m fit and at ease staring back at them and in the right environment, calling them out for staring. And stop. Everyone can tell the difference between zoning out and trying to intimidate and shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:50 AM
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Bonobos aren’t rapists, there is little to no danger in existing as a female bonobo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:04 AM
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Nothing new from men. They stare and leer precisely because they know it makes women uncomfortable and nervous. They know they are bigger and stronger and live to punish women for developing breasts and hips as if women do it on purpose. They also know attractive men women’s own age don’t behave like lecherous old buzzards. They do it because they get off on making women feel like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:03 AM
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Yeah, women can absolutely be outraged by leering creeps, because they are gross and acting out deliberately.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:54 AM
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How can men still pretend it’s the clothing? Rape is rampant in countries and cultures where women are covered in cloth head to toe. The dove project . org will prove to you that women and girls have been raped while wearing full military regalia, men’s pajamas, onesies, diapers, and sweats. Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:48 AM
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Have you never seen actually nude women on your phone, or porn of any kind? How can someone’s summer clothing compete with the staggering and endless array of nudes and perversity online?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:43 AM
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People who suffer intrusive thoughts need to forgive themselves and realize no one can see inside your head if you don’t give away any tells. Don’t leer, don’t scan, don’t stare, don’t follow and no one will ever know. Cognitive behavioral therapy might help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:40 AM
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Men are not visual creatures. They can’t match clothing, very few have any sense of fashion or style, most live in the equivalent to a frat house with toys and posters on the wall. Men make fun of modern art, lose their minds when dragged into a home decor, roll their eyes at handmade items. Men just behave the way they do because they are bigger and stronger and they know women are mostly powerless to stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:36 AM
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You’re supposed to mind your own business and look at the billions of pornographic images on your phone, because we live in a society and manners and decorum are vital.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:33 AM
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Best post on this topic I’ve ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:28 AM
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I’m confident you have the tools to invite men to an all male party. If you are unsure, ask any pregnant lady or a mom. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:26 PM
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Are you saying that straight lonely men somehow need straight lonely men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:52 PM
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Any men are welcome in gay bars, no one needs to demand anything. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:36 PM
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Gay men wouldn’t know or care. Maybe lonely men who want male only parties should ask their mommies to help them plan it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 09:24 PM
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Because gay men are men. Holding straight male-only events doesn't work, people get mad and call you a bigot because you are not inclusive enough. Got any more excuses for learned helplessness and willful inaction? Since pregnant moms and mothers of several small children organize and host events every single weekend without asking men for help? Ladies, these men claim they offer women “protection”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:59 PM
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You confess nothing whatsoever is stopping you from attending gay bars or holding male only events. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:26 PM
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Jfc why would you ban gay men?? How straight can a man be if he’s terrified of gay men, who are also men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:26 PM
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The learned helplessness coming from men who claim they build and maintain the infrastructure is absurd. I know for a fact that men can rent any venue in any city in the US and invite men to join, and a few paid at the door should cover the cost of rent. Every pregnant lady, mom of toddlers and small children hosts events without any help or support, I feel sure Big, Strong, Masculine Man can figure out how to host an event. Since men aren’t doing this, guess they are either incompetent or there…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:13 PM
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There are bars for men all over the west. If gay men can create male dominated spaces, the only thing stopping straight men is that most straight men aren’t interested in excluding women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:07 PM
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Your thalidomide reference is all about a massive mistake and/or crime against humanity caused by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:05 AM
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Why do men hate their kids and want them to suffer and live with less than their father or mother can provide? What about your “legacy”? The constant chiding about “who will care for your in your old age” and “Muh population replacement rate”? Because I’ll tell those kids how their father felt about them and I’ll help them slam those stingy old men into a nursing home faster than a sneaker wave. Enjoy the diapers and lonliness, shitty dads
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:12 PM
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Dude what? Deadbeat parents, kids on drugs, serial cheaters…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:45 PM
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The point is that you're a misandrist who jumps to "everything is men's fault" at every opportunity. It was also men who promoted the use of radium to make glowing watch and clock dials, which led to the hideous and horrific deaths due to cancer during the world wars. But thanks for bringing this up and highlighting the generational trauma men have cursed women and male and female infants with. All the motherless children due to radium, the deformities due to thalidomide are indeed horrific mark…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:41 PM
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Source that 100% of doctors prescribing thalidomide were male? Source that the doctors knew it would cause deformities? I have a feeling you’re going to delete all this, but the sources are all over the web. Two men recommended the drug to treat nausea during pregnancy, and two male run companies promoted and distributed the drug and had no plans to stop until a female pharmacologist stepped in to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:38 PM
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It was men who promoted and marketed the drug, and a woman named Frances Kelsey who raised the alarm and stopped the distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:34 PM
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That makes me sad, but it would explain so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:33 PM
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Last time. Why did you bring this heinous act up? For what reason, and what point were you trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:29 PM

I don’t get men’s problem with this, I love every member of my family whether biological, adopted, or temporary. I wouldn’t feel “cucked” if I adopted, fostered, or fell in love with a man with children. Some of these men truly resent children other than the convenience of an anchor which keeps their woman at home even in an unhappy marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:28 PM

I don’t believe there is a wall, but men who who wait until they are thirty to date are in no position to expect virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:26 PM
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Dude what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:25 PM
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What are you trying to do here? Male doctors caused a particularly heinous crime against women, and male and female infants. Why did you bring this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:13 PM
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Why did you bring up a heinous and horrid action men did to women and children? What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:03 PM
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I hope so, but I also know where we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:02 PM
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I have no idea what you are saying. Women trusted doctors who supposedly had a solid plan to help with morning sickness and you somehow blame women for their infants’ deformities. But don’t stop there, blame women for the exposure to radium during the world wars. Blame women for believing doctors who claimed that sugary formula was somehow better than breast milk because they were being paid by Nestle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:21 PM

You couldn’t be more wrong. Red/black pill entitlement is off the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:17 PM
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Are you blaming European women for trusting their doctors?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:42 PM
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They don’t exist unless you provide them evidence. A broken link is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:48 PM
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What citation are you using?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:45 PM

Women don’t want a lifetime of sexual and domestic servitude with a man who regards them as lesser, or a man they can’t stand. Kind of important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:44 PM
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Where and when?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:43 PM
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I assumed that meaning biological, whether married, divorced, or never married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:41 PM
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How are facts ideological?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:39 PM
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Women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:34 PM

Women don’t want that. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:33 PM
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Sure, but how will you reverse the right’s rampant anti intellectualism campaign?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:32 PM
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Ideally women prefer to have kids with mentally and socially competent men, which leads to the best outcomes for kids. Do you disagree with that agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:19 PM
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Do I need a longer list? All their kids are a fucking mess. Drug addicts, criminals, antisocial icons who admit massive problems with adaptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:08 PM

An adopted brother is deaf and he's super lazy and tends to sign with one hand, which makes it hard for me to understand, but he's flying when amonst his hearing impairped peers. He's in DC near Gallaudet, but when he comes back for visits he always brings a couple friends and they are the laziest signers who understand one another just fine. Stuff was kind of a different world back then for disabled kids. I'm actually with an older collogue all week and we hit it off and I just asked him how fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:07 PM

Yep, but all of their friends did, too. I graduated with... maybe thirty exchange students? I don't know how many fosters, but it was the norm when I was 13+. Foster kids are far more common now. I work in a wealthy city with several colleges, and the line for foster kids is looong. The system is begging even young single women and men to foster. I've done it 6 times now, five long term, even though I only agreed to emergency/temp status. My two counties recognize that group homes are detrimenta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:01 PM
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Do you? It was never tested on pregnant animals or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:55 PM
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You left out the most important component of parenthood, and that's raising children in a loving, caring environment, which billionaires have proven they are incapable of doing. Musk uses his toddler as a human shield. Trump didn't raise any of his children and cheated on the last one by paying a porn star for sex. Junior is constantly caught on camera doing coke and making insane Nazi proclamations and threats to society. Cruz' daughters hate him and haven't hidden that on the public platform. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:52 PM
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His inability to attract women without children at an appropriate age implies the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:43 PM
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Love has both colloquial and deeper meanings. Literal thinkers who live to nitpick aren't in a position to describe love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:42 PM
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Sounds like he isn't in a position to have a wife or kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:41 PM
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No one believes that's all your mother did for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:40 PM
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You can also literally go to jail for failing to make payments on time, even if you're dead broke. Child support is based on his or her income.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:22 PM
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Big doubt you raised yourself to adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:21 PM
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Despicable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:20 PM
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Desire, infatuation, obsession, fixation, and lust are not synonymous with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:19 PM
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Oh. I didn't realize my experience was unique. I love those kids, and love the handful of kids I've taken in as much as I'd love my own without any thought of their parents. And I'm near thirty, so I know a lot of recent divorcees who are dating and falling in love with parents of kids, and they all seem pretty happy and cohesive. I don't think I'm naive at all. I'm certain that the red/black pill echo chamber is determined to keep men in the crab bucket, and implying step and adoptive fathers a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:09 PM
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My parents are old, but expressed gratitude for the kids. I'm aware that shit people exist who take in foster kids for the measly government stipend, but the vetting process for kids with special needs is extensive and geez we've always been grateful for the opportunity to learn and grow with them. My BIL is a STAHD, but fluent in ASL because he joined our family after my parents (shaky but okay with ASL) were begged to take in hearing impaired twins. He loved it and continues to be on call for …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:04 PM
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Are you saying men should be paying women to teach their kids to floss? Yeah??? Because men sure aren't fucking doing any of the work beyond the bare minimum. Be prouder of letting kids' teeth rot out and allowing them to follow a path of heart disease, stroke, heart attack, and Alzheimer's. Minimize the importance of teaching kids basic health care and hygiene more and watch even more women lose respect for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:52 PM
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My parents had a litter of kids, I have a bunch of brothers and sisters, and as they aged, my parents and elder siblings started taking in exchange students and foster kids, all of whom greatly enriched our lives and we loved/continue to love them even if they flew back to their original environment. The horseshit from the red pill about "paternity" is just that: horseshit. Most men are perfectly capable of loving kids they didn't create, but red/black pill men are taught selfishness and jealous…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:49 PM
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I don't click on links other than scientific citations. not that im against it i support a gender neutral society... No such thing in human history or human future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:47 PM
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I suppose you can cite your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:46 PM
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"Put up with"? GR, noooo. I'm younger than you and even I know that we choose our fosters and adopted kids based on what we feel we can offer them, and the handicaps are understood and accepted prior to signing the final papers. Unless you grew up on a foster farm, you were pre-loved and were never a burden, but a gift. If it was the former, then bless you for your patience with others here, if you were raised to regard yourself as a burden. My brother/s sisters are often a pain in the ass, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:45 PM
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You know what the services are. But humor yourself here. Pretend you moved far away from your family and work forty hours per week and those hours don't coincide with two kids' school and extracurricular hours. Now imagine being in charge of transport to school buying their clothing as they grow like weeds buying the clothing they need for sports and/or other extracurricular activities buying their clothing as they outgrow it buying the clothing they require for gym buying the accessories and su…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:41 PM
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"Most people are stupid" tells the whole story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:23 PM
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KR, if you can find a spot, please please talk about adopted/step/foster children. I don't have your knack for diplomacy, and I'm feeling angry (I never feel anything when dicking around here) at the number of men who are gloating they resent-to-despise other men's children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:21 PM
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Even a parent loving their child is dependent on the condition that they're their child, That isn't true at all, many of us love our foster siblings, our foster children, our steps and adopted kids. Evo-psych has destroyed men's charitable and empathetic tendencies. Do red/black pill men realize how they alienate their brothers with this hateful rhetoric? Would you walk right up to an adopted or foster child and tell him "your father never loved you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:20 PM
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How can you be a friend or partner to women with this level of misanthropy? Are you sure that others don't find misanthropes to be stupid and inept? Are you certain there is no room for compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:17 PM
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Can you add anything about mutual attraction? It's difficult to respond to a request for unconditional love when he (and it's almost always a he asking for this) doesn't profess unconditional love for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:16 PM
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Single men with full custody pay for all those services, unless their mommy takes over. But they never paid their children's mother for the same tasks. Defend that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:10 PM

They are the entire support system who can easily leave and support themselves and do it alone rather than take on the care and feeding of an adult male. A guy has to choose carefully because he has more to lose in a divorce No he doesn't, since he is incapable and unwilling to replace the role of wife and mother and will have to pay a dozen other people to replace her role if she disappears. (or give the children to his mommy, which is a cop-out). A lot of these qualities too are just missing f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:09 PM
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You've said more about this in the past, I feel you could elaborate further, since you tend to employ more tact and diplomacy than those of us who are bemused by entitlement. I'd say "Your participation in their life is voluntary" and there are benefits to socializing with others, but it's up to the individual to draw a line at bodily autonomy. But I feel like you have more generous words.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:04 PM
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how do you compare/measure suffering or privilege or oppression in a credible way? Equal legal rights and equal representation cover nearly all of it. The legitimately comparable concerns pertain to legal rights, benefits, employment, and health care. Do you feel there is a public need for legal protections for anything beyond these?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:01 PM

who do you think wins in a divorce when you’re making more money? The man who enjoys the benefit of an unpaid servant who replaces the womb, the incubator, the wet nurse, the nurse, the chef, the secretary, the personal shopper, the laundress, the chauffer, the housecleaner, the social planner, and the human calendar for the duration of the marriage. He never pays for the multitude of her services, so she never gets a chance to accrue savings, contribute to a retirement plan or social security.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:56 PM
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And the superfund cites. And the location of urban public schools within close proximity of superfund cites, factories, and landfills. It was never a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:54 PM
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They dont see kids as family to love unconditionally, they see kids as a symbol of their relationship, so when the relationship ends, caring about the child also ends. Perfectly described men who throw a fit about child support payments. If they don't want their children to live a comfortable, well-fed and cared-for life, they resent both the mother and the child and fight child support. "Muh legacy" is an will always be a bullshit red herring designed to justify a fear of women with any sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:28 PM

Then you aren't red/black pill nor conservative, so who are you arguing with here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:25 PM
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Then you aren't red/black pill nor conservative, so who are you arguing with here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:24 PM
1

No one assumed the barista or cashier doens't have a college degree, maybe read the OP of the thread you responded to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:23 PM

If you’re a college graduated man you’re going to want to get with someone with similar goals Oh, so you're neither conservative nor red/black pill. Only people who get with attractive people without thinking about values and goals are usually all women and look how thats worked out with all the mess we have in the modern dating age Women deliberately choose men they share values and experiences with and also men they are attracted to. Educated women aren't dating cashiers. But red/black pill an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:22 PM

This is peculiar. Men claim they will be happy with a cashier or Starbucks barista. But... Men claim that attractive women are superior, and the chances that a woman hired to tend bar is likely to be attractive, and we already know she's educated. So which value is it men are concerned about? Could it be her exposure to attractive, promiscuous men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:56 PM
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Red/black pill men claim to have an agenda to help men with self improvement, but their primary method has been and will always be an attempt to knock women down a peg. It's Aesop's sour grapes writ modern, and it's just as pathetic now as it was 2,500 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:37 PM
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Are you trying to pretend that men are somehow forced to test medical procedures and pharmaceuticals? Nuremburg protected white men starting in 1947. As late as the 1970s, an estimated 40% of native American women who sought medical care or gave birth in hospital were forcibly and secretly sterilized. Same thing with black women in southern states. Pharmaceutical testing for women didn't become the norm until 1993, and women of childbearing age continue to be excluded from common pharmaceutical …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:24 PM

Shared values and mutual attraction aren't important to men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:06 PM
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But current feminists are weak and pathetic. They talk a big game online but fold IRL. So... what is your opinion of the MGTOW who never, ever actually went their own way but fixated on women to the point of threatening violence against them? I know several feminist, Anti Trumper women who make an exception for their MAGA boyfriends because he's "sweet". What a fucking joke. Big doubt. Men do lie about who they are, but women have left men and cut off their own family members for their far right…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:03 PM
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Physical attraction is exacting for many, if not most women, this is true. But that isn't shallow. Shallow is dating for money or status, for youth or good looks alone. Like many notable politicians who want to impress other men with their young, attractive wife, and young models and actresses willing to date or have children with elderly ogres for money and fame. Sexual attraction is not shallow, and is indeed by design or biology, whichever you subscribe to. Regardless of how nice, decent, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:02 PM
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Mutually gratifying sex is an equal exchange in which both partners benefit. Is that a foreign concept?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:10 AM
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…and you can’t see the benefit in having mutually gratifying sex with men who women are attracted to? Hint: it’s right there in the very first line: both people are getting what they want. That’s the red pill blind spot when it comes to sex. Men seem to forget that women are also Homo sapiens with a built in desire for sex. Their own sexual identity independent of men, and they are in a position to choose the partner they prefer rather than waste it with an unappealing man who pretends to care a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:53 AM
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Some women just don’t deliver. For many women, the illusion cracks the moment their clothes hit the floor. Bodies that look fuckable under layers of shapewear, turn out to be soft, sagging reminders that filters don’t work in person. And still, women expect something. A call. A connection. A second look. Based on what? A clumsy performance? Body shaming women after Men’s Penis Depreciation Month is crazy work
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:14 AM
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Women might take that seriously if the cries of “Muh population rate” and “close ya legs, whores” weren’t squealed by the very same men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:33 AM
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men had spaces but women always barge in No one buys this argument when gay men have hundreds of bars all over every western country which embrace men with open arms. If gay men can make men only and male dominated spaces to find camaraderie and community, surely a bunch of aggressive right leaning rednecks can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:00 AM
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Surprised any men had any concerns. For a couple years men kept claiming they were going their own way and women collectively shrugged and went back to whatever they were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:08 PM
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I bet most people would like to have a real and honest impression of the person they go out with, not a phony. And phony/fake/insincere is how cold approachers behave, and why they are regarded with distaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:25 PM
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If you march up to strangers and start yammering, the impression will be “this guy is outgoing and gregarious, he must love socializing” At what point do you correct that and tell her the truth about your social preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:21 PM
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Women nearly always raise the child while he runs away and abandons them. But please tell women more about responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:16 PM
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Every stinking day men remind women they don’t want or need feel good noises, they demand an action plan. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:15 PM
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What impression do you believe you make on a stranger when you pretend to be outgoing and sociable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:14 PM
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Perhaps you need to hone your writing style, because I’m not the only woman who sees very clearly that you describe women as a commodity. Maybe stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:13 PM
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Or… try meeting people in a different setting with a different context more conducive to socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:12 PM
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It’s the same thing as being propositioned by a toothless druggie. Indiscriminate attention is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:04 PM
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Not all of us enjoy social events. So pretending to be sociable, outgoing, and gregarious long enough to convince a woman you are all of those things is what… just a blatant misrepresentation of who you are and what you have to offer? How could that ever end well for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:03 PM
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You’re acting like fear of rejection or being misjudged isn’t valid when the stakes for men include public shame or worse. The fear of rejecting a man who might or might not lose his shit and follow you to the parking lot is a valid fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:00 PM
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Men who are successful don’t clock a woman in the produce aisle, make a beeline straight for her or follow her to an empty aisle only to ask a phony, made up reason to talking at her. They enjoy organic small talk. Unforced. They smile and wait to see if she smiles back. They don’t go hunting for women like a predator. If a man or woman can’t figure this out, cold approaching isn’t for them. Again this social expectation for men to pursue women The person who wants something is expected to go an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:40 PM
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They want the women (the resources) for themselves (as if they are hoarding a commodity) There is no other way to parse it, and it’s also horseshit. Wealthy men aren’t hoarding women. Money isn’t going to make unappealing men sexually appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:32 PM
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The thing men want requires women to give their bodies away to men they do not feel any romantic or sexual interest in. “Look at you with your two good kidneys when only one of mine works, why can’t men just give women a kidney”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:26 PM
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