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Are you okay? [–]M3taBuster [score hidden] 6 hours ago Is Reddit popular with suburbanites? And is Eminem popular with suburbanites? Any data to back that up? white rapper There you go. Now you're getting closer to the real reason she chose Eminem. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:07 AM
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I’m looking forward to hearing about how one woman/two men appeals more to men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:25 PM
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Tell us more, “suburbanites”. You must be sixty-seventy? Who are you lecturing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:53 PM
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Do sex acts appeal to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:51 PM
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Do you have the same negative reaction to other nudes? Venus? David? Aphrodite? Discus Thrower? Rugby players? Strong Man? Pirelli calendar? Herb Ritts, Helmut Newton, Annie Leibovitz? So all nudes and all strong, fit bodies are made to give men erections, and never for art? so she is catering to the male gaze The male gaze is literally focused on children. Schoolgirl uniforms, young teens, innocence, naïveté I’d die of shame before I admitted that as a man but here men are, claiming that a tiny…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:09 PM
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its a bit odd that so much of her imagery is catered towards the male gaze She literally dresses like a child at a fifties slumber party, and her shows are attended by women. Straight men are wildly out of place at her shows and she does nothing to make men feel welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:53 AM
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Bless your heart. There were four founding members of the PMRC, and three are/were Republican. I suppose you simply forgot to mention conservative Republican Pam Howar, conservative Republican Susan Baker, and conservative Republican Sally Nevis? You can literally Google As can you, but you didn’t, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:51 AM
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I checked your post history and see zero complaints about how music portrays and talks about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:42 AM
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I don’t consider consensual porn, video games/books/movies based in fictional worlds, or songs to be immoral. Why would I? This you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:33 AM
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No idea what you are referring to, conservatives famously destroyed free speech by forcing artists and industry to censor and post warning labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:14 AM
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Thousands of young men have been rapping about bitches, whores, violence, and pussy for fifty years, I think men will be okay if an 80 pound blond makes fun of irresponsible men who suck in bed in a cheeky, non-violent fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:00 AM
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Masturbation and wet dreams are sufficient. A man doesn’t require a partner to offload aging sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:16 PM
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Frankly unsure what your reply has to do with my original comment. How does it pertain to your claims at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:10 PM
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Your loaded question makes no sense. The men who feel that sexual health is a human issue are doing just fine. I don’t care what happens to men who feel that women’s sexuality is something which needs to be squelched and shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:51 PM
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If he’s insecure and blames her for his “sexual health”, then yes, his “happiness” occurs at her expense. If he can’t figure his shit out on his own and deal with his own decisions and actions, he has no business punishing a more experienced partner for his willful missteps and inhibitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:44 PM
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Do you read the confessions by men here? Backtrack and look at the posts from the men arguing with me. If she isn’t sexually attracted, he’s still going to expect her to submit and pretend, and if she doesn’t, he’s will abuse her emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:59 PM
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Not at all. But introverts also become obsessed with the Head Cheerleader and lose their minds when “she can’t see that I’m a Nice Guy she has nothing in common with. When are the introverted men going to admit they have zilch in common with the women they persue?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:18 PM
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Oh. So you don’t know about foreplay? Fingers, tongues, thighs, hands, toys, and knees? There are some prudish mods here who would hide explanations, but women prefer a dozen acts before an erection penetrating their vagina. I’ll describe them, but a couple mods will likely delete them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:15 PM
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Yes, because as was said, the only unit of value you understand is sex. Apparently your home language lacks the concept of compatibility. If a strange man approaches a stranger, he’s only doing it because of sexual attraction, since he doesn’t know her. Do you need a working translation of compatibility and rapport?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:13 PM
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You can’t be a hater, you are beautiful and you can ask me to delete this and I will, but I believe you’ve been abused by an opportunistic woman. Surely you can see how women perceive you IRL, you are prettier than most of us. Evopsych is the problem. Modern humans are cursed with thousands of years of religion and oppression/repression. None of us can be compared to apes. Evopsych is grifter psyops designed to misdirect gullible men with a religious or same sex education.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:10 PM
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Do you believe that attractive and semi attractive women enjoy having sex with clumsy, unattractive men? If they did, wouldn’t they date those men? Do sex workers call men and beg them to come back for free visits?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:19 PM
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You haven’t shown any statistics. Where is the actual study?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:55 PM
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I can assure you there are many people in long term relationships who are having sex with a disengaged, unexcited person’s body. I agree, and those people are sociopathic. I can also assure you there are many people who have been with sex workers that were at the very least engaged. Imagine someone so unappealing they have to resort to a sex worker, trying to arouse her. I feel certain that’s the last thing a sex worker wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:54 PM
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It's not that all those people are bad, it's simply that those who they see that are bad and successful mostly have those traits. What traits do introverted murderers, rapists, and school shooters have in common?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:48 PM
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What makes you assume ditch diggers and crime scene cleaners don’t love ringing up customers and would do it for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:47 PM
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You’d be surprised at the candor and bullshit when women discuss sex, too. Neither indicate how individuals actually act when dating. Upvoting even though I disagree with this post because I apparently doomed you when I mentioned how pretty you are. And I’ll delete this post in a couple minutes, too, because red/black pill men are haters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:39 PM
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If someone has to be paid to have sex with a man, they aren’t attracted to that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:38 PM
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Because sex is a mutually gratifying act unless on partner is a complete sociopath
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:35 PM
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I understand, but that’s a different conversation. Doesn’t do any good to be angry that women prefer attractive men, since men also prefer attractive women. Human nature isn’t anything to waste time railing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:58 PM
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The vast majority of a sex worker’s job is acting. I don’t believe men are so stupid they actually believe she’s enjoying acts she must be paid to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:41 PM
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Of course not. If she were attracted to that man, she’d do it for free. Manipulating her body in a shitty attempt to pretend he cares is gross. She still requires mutual attraction for gratification, she isn’t a sex toy, she’s a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:40 PM
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Because having sex with a disengaged, unexcited person’s body is a sociopathic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:37 PM
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I’m not insecure, I’ve never had the problems you describe. I’ve never been in a relationship in which I wasn’t sexually desired. But then again, I’ve never misrepresented myself or displayed incompetence. I’ve never pursued sex with someone who was busy or distracted or ill, because I’m not an idiot like some men who assume their erection is more important than whatever a woman is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:35 PM
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Of course it isn’t. But ugly people cannot reasonably expect the same results as attractive people. We each play the hand we are dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:32 PM
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The halo effect is real. Attractive people have better social skills because they have an easier life, and people with an easier life have more opportunities to develop social skills. There isn’t any valid reason to hate or focus on those people or regard them as villains. It’s not their fault they were born pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:20 PM
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Whatever you gotta tell yourself to feel better about them being on the back of your trading card. Your insult was removed. I don’t have casual sex. But I can objectively describe the appeal of men who don’t hate women vs men who actively hate women because of massive insecurity and puritanical views. It seems like men should want to explore and understand the reasons certain men are popular and successful and why some men are not. I At what point in this sub do we get to address men’s trauma di…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:19 PM
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They aren’t losers. They are fun and appealing, usually funny and good at flirting and good in bed. It’s weird when men feel they are in a position to judge men they aren’t dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:31 PM
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Because the only unit of value that women understand is sex Ha ha, no. It’s not limited to sex. The classmate/coworker she isn’t interested in, isn’t compatible with, and isn’t attracted to is equal to the homeless old guy because she isn’t going to date either one and neither one cares about her happiness and fulfillment. So their unwanted attention is equally worthless. Not quite. It’s because men are less privileged than women, and don’t chase social status like women do. It’s because men don…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:21 PM
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Sometimes those loud attention seekers are just fun and extroverted, they aren’t all a menace. Problem is that introverts regard all loud and outgoing people as bad, and the most inexperienced introverts believe that emulating the worst traits is how to succeed. They fail to see the good traits, it’s a real problem I haven’t seen anyone address in pop psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:14 PM
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If you’re attractive, sure. If you’re geriatric, have a shit body and awkward posture, and sporting a shitty, embarrassing toupee, makeup, high heels, and a diaper… Tinder is not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:35 PM
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Cry laughing. Women are the primary reason men go to the gym and they show off like little boys seeking attention when women are present.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 03:32 AM
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Is there something wrong with your keyboard?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:56 AM
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They should ignore basic life skills that men (and women) do when they live alone. But it’s only men seeking extra credit and sexual favors for washing a dish. Did you misunderstand my post? Take care of shit which needs to be done without being asked or begging for extra credit since you’d do the same thing when living alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:29 AM
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So…maybe say it more often, and not to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:26 AM
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🤣 The manosphere is a bitch fest filled with disaffected men from all over the globe. You’re participating in it right now, and frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:22 AM
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Did you forget to switch usernames or what
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:22 AM
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Yep. You can find them in colleges all over the US, despite the political shitstorm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:20 PM
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This place informs most women to avoid or postpone marriage as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:19 PM
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We have to love and respect them, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:18 PM
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I already have three voluntary paid jobs, zero desire to take care of a grown man for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:18 PM
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However, culture (or more specifically Western culture) smothers this and labels males who are too colourful and theatrical as gay or effeminate, and especially where maleness is seen as innately dirty and impure, wants the males to be as bland and "stoic" as possible. Oh come on. Be specific. It’s conservative/socio political control, not “culture” at large. The strongest, most successful males are still the loudest, most conspicuous, exhausting men who make terrific noise for attention. I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:15 PM
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Birds aren’t strictly monogamous, and every species has sneaker males, cucks, and females which stray.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:12 PM
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It hasn’t? Males prove their fitness across species, and women must exercise caution to avoid predation on them and their young.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:11 PM
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You must be new here. This is pretty much all I ever talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:10 PM
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Oh… so men here actually do understand that women don’t want to have bad sex with men they aren’t attracted to. I didn’t know any red pilled men understood this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:09 PM
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You’re comparing sociopaths with the general population? Yeah, that tracks for red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:44 PM
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The idea that men assume that great sex is somehow a massive loss for women…🤣 I don’t have casual sex and have never experienced the disappointment of losing a terrific fuck, but I’m certain the terrific fuck is a far better experience than suffering through terrible, ungratifying sex with a self professed nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:41 PM
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Do any terpers realize that fantastic sex is better than terrible, ungratifying sex with a man she isn’t attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:40 PM
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The discrepancy isn’t because women don’t like their options. The weird doofus in management might have more money than the homeless guy at the bus stop, but if she isn’t attracted, those two men are equals. Their sexual attention is equally repulsive. But many if not most men will have sex with a woman they find unattractive or even repulsive, because they are not hardwired with the fear and disgust which behooves women to choose healthy, fit, attractive partners with social status and social s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:38 PM
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Save your preaching for someone else, I’m fit and young, and I have a high libido and happiest with daily sex in a long term relationship. I was very clear. Companionship and domestic responsibilities are requirements of adults in a relationship. Those are mutually beneficial activities and efforts which strengthen the bond and create harmony. The one sided use of another’s unexcited body creates discord, and humping away in a sweaty frenzy while the other person is not turned on or worse, feels…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:37 PM
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Live as thought you would in your own house, alone. You aren’t there to “help out”, you are there to share a life and do what needs to be done. Don’t wait to be asked. If you see dirty dishes, do them and put them away. Walk the dog. Pull the weeds. Clean the fridge. Wash the windows. Buy extra toothpaste, toilet paper, cooking supplies. And don’t report these obvious tasks, it’s not extra credit. It’s called being a competent adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 11:58 AM
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One of those relates to the functioning of a household and the harmony of the family, the other is a self-centered sense of entitlement to another’s body, whether the other person enjoys it or not. Something is horribly lacking in men’s sex education, someone’s forgotten to tell men that sex is a mutually gratifying act for two people. Who is telling men that they have the right to hump a partner like a dog humps a pillow?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:34 AM
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Because the idea of humping someone’s disengaged and disinterested body in an excited frenzy is abhorrent. Sex is for two people, and if one party isn’t equally sexually excited, it’s not much different than having sex (or use the other word) with an unconscious person. I’d die of embarrassment if not of shame, knowing that a partner was lying there unaroused, unexcited, and simply going through the motions in hopes the other person would just get it over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:24 AM
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Are you implying that she isn’t also meeting her husband’s financial and emotional needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:22 AM
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Sex as I experience it does not include using someone’s body as a sex aid, regardless of aftercare. If my partner isn’t as excited as I am, I’m not touching them until we are on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:20 AM
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Presumably both provide emotional and support needs for each other, that’s the purpose of any partnership. We play to one another’s strengths and weaknesses as one of the many ways to actively love. But the person wiling to use another’s disengaged, disinterested body for their sole gratification is a mentally disturbed monster in my eyes, so this isn’t a dialogue I’m interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:07 PM
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They enforce duty sex and scheduled sex and throw a huge fit if anything interferes. Same thing is mentioned here constantly: men claim their wives are obligated to provide sex whether she’s inclined or not. The same men who claim that they have a high libido, explain that she’s bound by her vows to provide sex since the terms of monogamy dictate he can’t get it anywhere else, and they also proudly boast about denying affection and conversation since “my needs are getting met.” Find it very hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:38 PM
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The humiliation and psychological domination is part of the appeal for those men. The marriage and dead bedroom subs are filled with monsters who are positively gleeful that their partner either submits or faces punishment via emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:07 PM
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And, since about every women on this sub are always hellbent to remind us you’re supposed to do more than just fun things with them. Men will do anything except take care of their own home once a woman moves in, including taking care of another man’s home. In fact I’m fairly certain that women are removing the fun out of anything merely by coming near it. If that happens, it’s because men refuse to take care of themselves and their homes and families like functional adults and leave everything t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:21 PM
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Can’t tell if you are joking, but the White House is filled with sundowning methuselahs hell bent on destroying the country for their own financial gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 03:44 PM
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You’re not a fan of the Revolutionary War? That’s peculiar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:13 PM
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Oh, I dunno. Kick them off Medicare, restrict college grants and loans, and remove food subsidies, and force them to work until 80, where they perish from stress? We don’t have to worry if they drop like flies due to the Big Beautiful Plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:11 PM
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Nothing stopping you paying for a beautiful young woman to pretend she’s attracted. Prostitution is a job for certain types of women. I don’t personally know any with the stomach for it, but they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:04 PM
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I’ve seen one woman make that claim, and dozens of men express disgust and horror with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:14 AM
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Women don’t like having sex with a man who behaves as a child. Men rather seem to enjoy their Oedipal bent, but it grosses women the fuck out. Men who behave like competent adults get laid. No one cares if men who behave like dependent children pout.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:14 AM
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And none of those things stopped happening when women were in charge either. When was that? Again, women are not paragons of virtue. Comparatively speaking…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:12 AM
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You realize this isn’t any better, right? Downplaying sex doesn’t alleviate the confession that men will settle for anyone just to avoid being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:43 AM
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The point was that if a multitude of societies came to the same conclusions regarding women, it wasn’t a mere coincidence. A multitude of societies also enslaved people, destroyed cultural, languages, art, and artifacts. Raped children and forced marriages. Sent men to die in wars, ritualistically castrated little boys to make them sing pretty. Civilization comes from taming and controlling nature. Ha. See above for what happens when men are in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:42 AM
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Women aren’t concerned about being excluded, it’s unlikely a man with these inhibitions is a good match, anyway. The point is that the men who are fixated read as asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:11 PM
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which is comply unavailable both physically & emotionally. Red pill revenge fantasies aren’t relevant to women’s desire for mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:51 PM
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I realize you’re joking; but you are aware that many men here actually believe she’s attracted to that clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:23 PM
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Men’s indiscriminate sexual behavior is not a valid measure of women’s prerogative to select the healthiest, most compatible and attractive partner they can pull. And trust me when I inform you that men do not want women to behave indiscriminately, i.e. like men. Men are already pee-pants terrified of women with sexual experience, the very last thing those men should want is for women to become more promiscuous. Better thank your lucky stars that women are discriminating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:22 PM
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The "rhetoric" doesn't invalidate the effectiveness of the advice. First of all, get your physical and mental health sorted is not universal advice, it’s common sense. No one needs to tell men with working eyes and mirrors that women prefer attractive men. Everything after that is the horseshit rhetoric which turns the pills into a cult. Men take the most basic life skills and add pseudoscience and grift to turn the red pill from useful tips to toxic vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:18 PM
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Assuming that a woman can tolerate awful sex with a man who hunches away on her body in a frenzied sweat for even a year is a bridge too far. She absolutely must be sexually attracted, even if the mutual interest wanes later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:44 PM
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That’s why they incorrectly assume that sex isn’t important to women, because women have discriminating tastes. When they finally grow up and discover that women do possess a sex drive, it scrambles their brains and they lash out with shaming language and name calling in an attempt to kill it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:41 PM
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Looks like she was getting exactly what she wanted. Good for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:28 PM
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Annnd there it is. It took 11 minutes to disprove men’s virtue signaling “but but most men are attracted to most women”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:05 PM
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One would have to have an unparalleled level of egocentricity to think they know better than millennia’s of people. Oh? Which is it? Are you celebrating the patriarchy and the rules which subjugate women? Or pretending it doesn’t exist? Because your earlier post praising the patriarchy was positively reverent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:04 PM
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most men like most women sexually. Wanna gamble on this? Hey fellas, Taylor Swift is the most beautiful woman on the planet, isn’t she? Her face and body literally perfect in every way. She’s like a living Barbie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:26 PM
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My point is that women are more shallow, because men are more willing to overlook things they don’t like in a woman to have sex and relationships with them. Can’t believe you published that self own. Imagine admitting to being so desperate to get sex that men will fuck women they find unattractive and pretending it’s a virtue 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:24 PM
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If it were successful, lab partner, men wouldn’t have a loneliness epidemic now would we. Men wouldn’t be stumbling clumsily through dating apps and screeching about women on social media. But I believe you have a blind spot. You might want to remember who controls the masses (the wealthy) and how the wealthy control the masses (via mite). Men who believe themselves to be the masters of their domain are fools unless they wear the crown. IOW: y’all ain’t never been in charge. Men obediently and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:20 PM
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Is this the part where a woman has to explain again that the red pill is a cult partially cribbed from general advice which applies to everyone everywhere of every age? If I refer to red/black pills, I’m referring to the rhetoric, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:13 PM
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Women don’t experience this red pill revenge fantasy, but just for funsies, let’s pretend it happens occasionally. Waiting for commitment while having fantastic sex beats the shit out of enduring decades of awkward and unsatisfying sex with a man she isn’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:11 PM
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It’s male egocentrism. Mark believes his attention is a gift and a privilege. But Mark’s unwanted attention as equal to the unwanted attention of the homeless bum at the gas station. We seem to be trapped in the same awkward space as Copernicus, who realized that the universe doesn’t revolve around what men think it revolves around. Centuries of political and physical dominion over women poisoned their brains. They simply can’t conceive of a world in which a man’s feelings and desire aren’t the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:08 PM
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I’m applying logic and reason, which has nothing to do with pill horseshit. The pills are responsible for the neutering I referred to. It doesn’t matter how physically fit and well groomed a man is, if his brain is castrated by stupid pill rhetoric which leads to emasculating terror of female sexuality. By the time a man emerges from the puritanical soup which is the red pill, his sexual identity is gone. He reads as asexual; as awkward and repressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:53 PM
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Begin by removing the multi-faceted stigma conservative and religious men attach to female sexuality, because their reservations hamper their own sexual expression and women don’t see them as masculine or sexually attractive. Men neutered themselves with their illogical fears of female sexuality and with their clumsy attempts to control women via shaming language and paternalistic attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:42 PM
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over-valuation of superficial traits, under-valuation of long-term compatibility The only way a marriage retains longevity is if both partners are either mutually attracted, or both are asexual. No woman will be happy providing her body for the sole gratification of a man she isn’t sexually attracted to. Strangest thing about red/black pilled men: they admittedly select and pursue women based on sexual attraction to her appearance, yet pretend women are superficial if they reject men based on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:29 PM
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Sure, if everyone is fully informed, adults who enjoy casual sex and mutual attraction should do as they please. Almost all the men I associate with are closer to your description than any other. Men who like women: get laid. No woman here believes the bullshit red/black pillers claim that Chad hates women and is the ultimate misogynist. We know they are lying anyway because they aren’t actually spending time with men who seek and enjoy the company of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:07 PM
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If you're hinting at me, I won't show my face for professional and safety reasons, but I have shown my mostly nude body to a user here to prove my stats, and he verified it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:10 PM
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At a certain point in any teen's life is the milestone in which they realize their parents are human and either or both are victims or products of their respective familial, cultural, or religious environment and/or voluntary adherence. Once the teen realizes their parents are also human and takes the time to respect and understand the dynamics which influence their upbringing, including the teen's own limitations and... beliefs, what happens now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:23 PM
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Misanthropic men are also sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:33 PM
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From men who sexually disgust them? Brother please 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:46 PM
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The can of worms OP has opened cannot be unseen. I’ll speak for most women. Men who hate women or regard them as lesser can wallow in the “loneliness epidemic” until death. Women have zero interest in such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:45 PM
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The field of psychiatry is incomplete until the link between misanthropy and the male loneliness epidemic is defined. PPD is a fucking goldmine for the ambitious student seeking a published breakthrough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:42 PM
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But any woman can have that plus friendship with a man she actually respects and is attracted to. Why would she settle for a boring user?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:38 PM
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What interest do men have in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:37 PM
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Oh look, it’s my turn. Let me stalk your posts for awhile. Stop talking and trying to befriend women, unless you prefer bitching about problems instead of solving them. Thank me later for fixing this for you. Stay away from female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:28 PM
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No one asked. Date whomever you prefer, best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:58 PM
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If thine eye offends thee…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:51 PM
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My issue lies with antisocial men as well as men who spread disinformation, because the horseshit they post harms men I love. And I’ll do as I please, but it’s positively darling when men think they have any influence over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:48 PM
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Are you remotely aware of what sub you are in, and which men are whining here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:51 PM
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Of course they do. Or at least they keep trying and assume they have the skill to disguise their disdain for women. However. The ubiquitousness of cameras and social media mean that men like this are failing miserably, as women expose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:36 PM
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Dunno, why do you men keep marrying female prisoners?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:28 PM
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Maybe keep up with the thread? Multiple men here admit they sexually desire a woman and want a domestic and sexual servant while actively hating women. None of those men are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:21 PM
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It’s gendered because women are attracted to men they like and respect. Red/black pilled men hate women, have no respect for women but will happily use and degrade women. Women are repelled, as they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:20 PM
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My answer stays the same. No woman benefits from the company of a man who desires but despises and disrespects women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:17 PM
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All straight men desire women’s sexual attention. That doesn’t mean they like or respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:13 PM
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There's an entire demographic of men completely incapable of connecting on any level with women. Or men! They claim their social and sexual problems would somehow be solved by men-only social spaces, but they don’t like men, either, and especially despise and disparage athletic, socially successful men who would never waste time in a sausage fest anyway. Literally the only thing they have to do is stop hating people. If they cannot manage that, it’s either therapy or solitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:12 PM
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It was a long fucking time ago, in 1984. But I can see why you’re confused, since marital rape wasn’t federally outlawed until 1993. So if you’re fine with drinking, smoking, and dying in war at age 18 and consider raising the age of accountability to 21 a “slippery slope”, guess it’s safe to assume that removing the excuse for (marital) rape in 1993 was also step backwards for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:06 PM
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Are you preaching Biblical inerrancy? Hmm? Doesn't matter if you answer is yay or neigh. Genesis 9:7: "And you, be fruitful and multiply; increase greatly on the earth and multiply in it." John 15:5:"I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." Colossians 1:10:"That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God." Psalms 1:3: "He shall …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:12 PM
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Sure, if they have advisors and chaperones. Barring that, 18 year olds are "smart enough and mature enough" to blast men on social media and expose them for creeping. Right? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:11 PM
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The irony of "religious" people parroting these points concerning "purpose" is that even Catholic teaching (which is a far cry from "progressive" religious teachings around sexuality) itself even says that "sex is a gift from God to be enjoyed by married couples … who aren’t allowed to practice birth control Massive omission on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:05 PM
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It's just standard homespun folk wisdom Folk wisdom advises men to suck the venom out of rattlesnake bites. Among a thousand other ridiculous falsehoods. As well as a massively obvious oxymoron. which somehow catches on in the culture and gets repeated in discussions like this one. Used almost exclusively by men trying to defend sexually harassing young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:56 PM
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Do you think an 18 year old knows how to take advantage of all of the scholarships and grants for tuition? Oh what about them knowing exactly what they want to major and then never change that major 2 or 3 years in. Absolutely? That’s what counselors and advisors are for. How can you not know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:54 PM
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No one has claimed females have orgasms in those species You know this isn't true. It's largely not a thing and women's experiences are consistent with it not being a thing in humans. Yeah? Who are the vast majority of sex toys for? And which men decided to prevent women from purchasing devices to facilitate sexual pleasure without a man? Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Thailand, Malaysia, Alabama, and Texas. Explain the pervasive proliferation of female sex toys, and also why men ban toys which facilita…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:26 PM
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I actually thought it was Dear Abby who came up with that. That's... an even dumber reason to take it seriously? She was an ugly old woman who regarded grown men as children and chastised women who didn't indulge in manchildren. "Remember, you are dealing with a little boy in long pants, who is short on will power. Don't play the martyr and make a wild scene. Vehemence and nagging, though he's guilty as sin, may launch him on a new career — philandering in earnest."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:15 PM
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And you are hopelessly, hilariously wrong, but no man or woman can convince an indoctrinated man resistant to reason, logic, and science.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:09 PM
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But if it did, no one would be able to date or marry any 7-year-olds Yet they did, in 1901, when this sentence was published. You know what else was the "rule" in 1901? Forcing male children to labor in mines. Segregation. Denial of equal rights for non-white men and all women. Lynching wasn't illegal and rarely punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:05 PM
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All female mammals possess a clitoris. The organ which exists for no other reason than sexual pleasure facilitates copulation. If a man suffers religious indoctrination which prevents him from understanding simple biology and evolution, he's beyond the reach of science and reason, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:58 PM
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I think the divide by 2 + 7 rule is good particularly for serious relationships What's the origin for that "rule"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:52 PM
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All the more reason an unblemished, untarnished 18 year old should be protected from 40 year old losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:52 PM
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Do you know anything at all about college? That many states have adopted two years of free state or tech degrees? That scholarships and grants are available for scholars and athletes? Average cost of a four year state college with full tuition is under $40,000? If that person accepts the free two year program, it's less than $20,000? Maybe, just maybe, Fox Entertainment isn't the best source for stats on college tuition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:50 PM
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The slippery slope, coupled with a Boomer "get off my lawn" rant? The middle aged and senior men in this sub are gonna upvote this so hard they might tip their recliners over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:47 PM
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It isn't the standard rule, it's literally a throw away quote from a 1901 book by French author Max O'Rell. I'll remind readers that in 1901, marital rape was legal. in France, the age of consent was 13, Delaware's age of consent was 7. Maybe consider the horrors female children were subjected to in 1901 before claiming this horseshit quote is a social "rule".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:44 PM
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The empathy lies with the more vulnerable party, and that's the younger person who stands to lose more by association with an emotionally or socially stunted 24 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:37 PM
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Like, what if a 24-year-old is in the same life stage as their 18-year-old counterpart? How would an 18 year old be served by attaching him or herself to a 24 year old suffering from arrested development?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:35 PM
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22 vets die by suicide each day, and 34,000 vets in the US are homeless. Traumatic brain injuries, disfigurement, PTSD are common. 5.3 million veterans receive Disability Compensation. You want to offer your 18 year old son or little brothers up with these odds?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:34 PM
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stop giving out hundred thousand student loans You want med students to stop seeking an education and loans they will obviously be able to pay back? Or do you actually think most student loans are 100,000?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:30 PM
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military recruiters Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:26 PM
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When I'm teaching, religious students demand to know "what purpose does a mosquito serve" and "Why do we humans need bears" and other questions which indicate the religious belief that everything on earth serves a purpose and a function to mankind. The OP and supporters seem to be operating under the same presumption that a god designed everything to function for His higher purpose. In reality, the purpose of a sex drive is copulation, full stop. For reproduction: sometimes. For bonding: certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:11 PM
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If it's not associated with the climax/goal of the female role in reproduction When a woman is sexually aroused, her body lubricates the vaginal canal. The more excited she is, the easier it is for sperm to swim in that hospitable environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:54 PM
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but it wouldn't have a biological function or benefit reproduction. I feel like you are just messing with people here and pretending not to know. The clitoris is the only human organ which exists solely for sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is literally the purpose. All mammals seek pleasurable sensations. If sex feels good, an animal is more likely to seek it, which occasionally leads to passing down genetic information.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:52 PM
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It would come from the men who are using all of the services she provides. Pay a STAHM the same money a widowed father must pay to a babysitter, daycare, chauffeur, tutor, personal shopper, chef, nurse, social planner, etc, and that salary will be taxed as income, same as any other job. Who the fuck is paying people to wash their own clothes and empty their own dishwasher? What are you on about? Who is discussing a woman who lives alone? Men would be able to afford to pay for a wife and a stay a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:49 PM
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but there's not a biological function they'd need to be incentivized to reach like there is for men. Where in the world did you get this idea? You definitely did not learn this in Biology 101. Surely you understand that the instinct to pair up is for copulation, not reproduction. Very few animals have any idea that copulation occasionally results in conception. Since the "goal" is to rub genitalia, it's reasonable to assume that animals which enjoy the sensation of sexual pleasure will seek it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:45 PM
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You've almost got it. If you pay women for the work they provide for free, they will be contributing to the tax base and won't need public assistance. That's between $180-205,000 per year. Of course that means most men can't afford to pay for a wife and stay at home mom, but it would sure stop the argument about "muh tax contributions".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:33 PM
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I answer. I’ve started exactly one conversation and it was positive. And I also don’t care if you lie about my posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:51 PM
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Dude everything in the red/black pill is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:50 PM
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I never write anything more hateful than what men say. My replies are measured in-kind responses to men, along with actual facts and evidence. I’m not patient with men who misrepresent statistics, but with everything else, it’s an equal but opposite response to their posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:41 PM
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Average salary for each of those roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:07 PM
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I’m pretty sure single mothers rely on the structural support of their friends, family and communities as much as men do to help take care of their children. You are wrong. Most single men Again, I was talking about parents, but please tell me what you’ve read here. Surely you’ve seen how many formerly single men expect their wives to take over all the housework, shopping, cooking, laundry, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:07 PM
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Who are you responding to? I’m speaking of single fathers, who simply cannot raise their children alone with paying for help or expecting free labor from family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:47 PM
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You have no idea what women really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:42 PM
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It’s men as a class, especially the men who cry because women “don’t contribute to the tax base” because men don’t pay them. When men do lose a wife, they rely on the free labor or their female family members. Love to see the bills of a man who moves away from his family and has to pay babysitters, tutors, nurses, cooks or take-out, housecleaners, etc. They sure as fuck don’t get all that for free unless they run to mommy for help after a wife dies or leaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:30 PM
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How much do you pay your children’s babysitter?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:10 PM
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As you should. If you want someone to take care of your home, your children, and you: pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:07 PM
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No, I want men to apply common sense and reason, and recognize the reason women contribute less taxes is because they aren’t paid for their lifetime labor. How about you raise your own goddamn kids and keep you own goddamned house? Without help from Mummy. Do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:06 PM
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So fix it. Pay women for their unpaid labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:55 PM
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Women are not paid for the work of raising children and keeping a home. When men start paying women for those tasks, they will contribute to more taxes. Stop whining about this when men benefit directly from women’s unpaid labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:55 PM
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The same things everyone works for. A place to live, something to drive, money for utilities and hobbies, activities with friends. But I can see how the “logical gender” is distressed if he doesn’t also acquire an unpaid servant, an unpaid housekeeper, an unpaid personal shopper, an unpaid chef, an unpaid social planner, unpaid laundress, and unpaid chauffeur he can use for unpaid sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:45 PM
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Yeah, I am. Disinterest isn’t abuse, harm, crime, or murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:13 PM
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Statistics about violence aren’t th Oppression Olympics. No matter how you torture an OP: disfigurement and murder will never equal rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:44 PM
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The part where you complain about women wishing men were dead, while leaving out the part where the leading cause of injuries to women is domestic violence, leading cause of death of pregnant women is homicide. But sure, let’s talk about men’s hurt feelings more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 08:22 PM
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u/Ceazer4L, do you engage at all? With any of your inflammatory posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:58 PM
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It’s entirely acceptable for men or women to feel distaste to dislike for people who seek to oppress and hinder their autonomy and freedom. It’s also entirely acceptable to avoid people who regard other humans as subordinate or less than, and to hate people who regard other humans as a means to an end. For example: I actively hate fat old draft dodging men who benefit from generational wealth who encourage impressionable and mentally ill young men to serve as cannon fodder. I actively hate fat o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:25 PM
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It’s my favorite. How long before the conservative prom dad with a shotgun becomes a meme to respond to “why are women rude to men” queries?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 07:20 PM
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How does that apply to this topic? Befriend a stud oh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:21 AM
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I’m using it the same way, Linguistics Major. Men who believe they are justified in comparing “pussy” to the spoils of war and women as commodities really believe they are speaking to allies in the locker room, when those “allies” who are popular with women rush right out to warn women against such men. And they also make fun of them. But they aren’t spies. They are friends of women and allies; the men who actually provide protection for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 11:04 AM
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Irrelevant, no one cares about the opinions of those who spy on them in a private moment. Are you okay right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:54 AM
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Same, why are you assuming “spies” inform me? Are men and women enemies are war? Opponents of the same “sport”? Or do I simply prefer adults who regard human beings as ends in themselves rather than achievements to conquer?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:52 AM
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Yeah they do, because they imagine that’s how “Chad” regards women, so they feel way too comfortable pretending they are slaying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:43 AM
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*without being judged for their lack of popularity and success with women. Unfortunately for those men, they forget that men also know about Aesop’s Fables, and can clearly see when frustrated men suffer from sour grapes. You know how women know? Men tell us. Maybe the next time men feel they are in a “safe space” to compare women to resources, they might remember that more successful men have female friends and will happily blast the chauvinists to save the female friends from wasting time with…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:42 AM
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I am, actually, at least the men who pretend they are masculine trad men, because trad men take on the role of the oldest child in the home. Lazy, entitled, and incompetent when it comes to parental and domestic tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 10:12 AM
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Ah, you think women ought to breed with nerds. The last time a notable nerd made a baby with an attractive women he carried the toddler around on his shoulders as a human shield. I don’t agree that physically weaker, unattractive men are the path to success.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:29 PM
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Rejecting lower-middle class men in non-masculine, indoor jobs or the service industry is a good way to strengthen the genome as well. Surely terpers are in favor of women choosing to breed with lumberjacks, athletes, farmers, and the most popular, physically attractive men. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 10:59 PM
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Red and black pill men. TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 09:48 PM
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If you believe this to be true, terps must be wildly angry at the men who benefit, huh. Bigger, stronger, more powerful men hoarding all the women, huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:52 PM
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OP, I’m going to assume this post is intended to help other men out, because you are far too attractive to suffer these problems, unless you have the misfortune to prefer broken women. All you have to do is take off your shirt and grin and everything will fall into place. But if it’s for other men, you may not have an experience with their actual behavior. They neuter themselves in a desperate attempt to win women away from the Bad Men who wish to corrupt them. They put themselves in the unfortu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 07:03 PM
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And if a man’s wife left after investing significant time, she already determined his value.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:44 PM
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The male loneliness epidemic is created and maintained by men who admit contact with their filthy little penises corrupt and contaminate women. The only solution is for women to avoid sex with most men to preserve the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:45 PM
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because if they don't, human reproduction will take a brutal hit. No. Men want sex and domestic service from women, they are certainly not providing a service to “human reproduction* because they want to stick their dick in a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:35 AM
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This is the one time I actually want to hear their feelings, but this late in the argument (bear vs man is a year old now), I believe men lack the ability to verbalize their outrage. I would love to hear the reason the analogy so deeply wounds and offends them. I have my suspicions. I think there is a solid chance that rejection sensitivity is born in the testes. I think science will eventually discover that rejection sensitivity is a sex linked trait, triggered by the onset of puberty and comor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:58 PM
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I'll see insulted by it The collective outrage by men is well documented all over social media, and continues in the very thread you are writing in. You can’t rewrite history simply because it makes men look needy and whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:49 PM
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Has anyone suggested that this particular attempt at bucking convention is self-sabotage? “She can’t fire me! I quit!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:11 PM
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Men are hurt by it? Umm… yeah, there’s this thing called the internet. Social media was jam packed with men howling in existential pain and self righteous indignation for fucking months after this stupid analogy floated to the top. You might also take the time to look up, because the very thread you are in begins with a man who is profoundly insulted by the bear analogy. Here, I’ll help you find it. It’s the fourth comment above this one. ⬆️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:09 PM
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I have a better idea. Tell women that men would choose the bear over them, and see what happens. Or, barring another boring rehash of this stupid analogy, remind yourselves what happened when men said “We are going our own way, and boy howdy women are gonna miss us when we’re gone!” If that isn’t sufficient, remind women that sex bots are on the horizon and that women are replaceable with technology. And women will shrug and wander off. Not hurt. Not offended. Utterly unbothered. I ask you… why …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:06 PM
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I think a lot of men would choose the bear over women And women collectively shrug and go back to whatever they were doing. Men really need to dig deep and figure out why they are so hurt by the bear analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:01 PM
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while giving nothing in return Men here must despise their mothers. Both misogyny and a lack of dating success are overwhelmingly due to terpers’ Mommy issues. Red/black pill men really need therapy to unravel their indelible hatred of Mother. It's only men who are being exploited Women sacrifice their health, their freedom, their autonomy and the entirety of their adult lives to raise children, half of whom are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:59 PM
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I’m just here to remind terpers to apply skepticism and demand empirical proof before believing every stupid thing a grifter posts and to ask men to stop spreading rage bait. You guys are destroying your little brothers’ chances at a social life and any kind of happiness with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:45 PM
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With all that said, it's clear that many western women, inspired by feminism and misandry, have chosen to abuse these privileges. Are ya gonna spank us, Daddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:12 PM
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I can see how you arrived at that conclusion, considering that men revere access to sex as an accomplishment on par with homeownership, but you suffer blindness to the woman’s perspective. Men are “willing” to accept women on almost any terms because they regard women as a resource rather than an equal partner deserving of equal consideration and equal importance in a relationship. If a man assumes he must present a portfolio and resume to the bank in order to purchase a GDT/R8/911/woman, he’s d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 01:10 PM
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The two most “toxicly masculine” groups in existence are butch lesbians Butch lesbians serve as proof that it isn’t difficult to maintain a masculine aura and conduct oneself with equal parts competence and sensitivity to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:54 PM
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Men have to care to be providers. Makes this claim ⬆️ Then immediately compares the care for a woman with the care of livestock. To plant the tree today that will shade the next generation is inherently caring, and men have provided that care since the beginning of agriculture and animal husbandry. Both are resources. A man’s care, as you admit here, is equitable with the care of an investment in livestock. One thing about this sub is how comfortable men are with confessions like this. Lonelines…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 12:50 PM
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women have limited time to have kids so they better hurry and find the right guy. Nope. Women are fertile for 30-40 years, and can get healthy sperm on demand. But having finite eggs by itself doesn't make it more noble for a woman to be superficial in her dating choices than men. It really sounds like the argument is "women are picky, superficial, etc because we have to be, whereas men's superficiality is by selfish choice". Yep, pretty much. So their dating choices aren't driven by a sense of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:21 PM
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The number of sperm and number of eggs is completely irrelevant. Both men and women use a very small fraction of their eggs or sperm. Wow, great job missing the point. Who invests more in the rare gametes, and who can blow billions into dirty socks and continue their uninterrupted life apace? Any guy who is a good guy Outliers aren't worthy of note. he's most likely bringing in the majority of money, which is also a necessary part of raising a family. He's making the same money he made when sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:17 PM
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Some straight women aren't into needy men, that doesn't mean they want to be dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:14 PM
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They demand rights from men they are not attracted to. Jfc because dispensing sex isn’t required for equal rights? Women with Down’s, Angelman’s, hearing or sight impairment, and any and all forms of limiting chromosome or developmental disorders qualify for equal rights. Same for men. Who keeps informing men that women are subordinate accessories with an obligation to serve men? Where do men get this stuff from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 05:01 PM
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If a person knows they are unattractive, they also know they are limited to similarly unattractive partners, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:29 PM
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Intellectualising is a trauma response For people with intrusive thoughts or OCD, not most people. If those people aren't seeking medical intervention and CBT or some other constructive adaptation to adversity, what can anyone do to reach them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:28 PM
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While I admit that half or more of woke idealogy is Christian based, derived from the New Testament teachings of Jesus, the other half is science based, with supporting evidence and fact. What is the anti-woke agenda based on? Because it sure appears to trickle down from the wealthy old men who run the country, and their disinformation campaigns which are suddenly veering away from Christian teachings and leaning hard into white power.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:46 PM
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Does this not by default imply that you actually have very high standards, since pretty every guy meets these basic standards A woman produces around 300 potentially viable eggs in a lifetime, presuming she's healthy for the duration of her fertile window. Pregnancy, birth, and gestation are taxing-to-debilitating and the product is 18-26 years of round the clock care, concern, expense, and all at the expense of a mother's autonomy. A man produces a quadrillion sperm. 1,000,000,000,000,000 poten…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:08 PM
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Anti-woke consists of men who feverishly support anti-intellectualism, lack critical thinking and comment and share obvious disinformation, men who misinterpret statistics, economic trends, and misattribute political decisions to the wrong party. Anti woke men subscribe to harmful and ludicrous conspiracies, wind up in hospital because they or their children are unvaxxed against diseases that were easily preventable or nearly eradicated, men who believe in "flat earth", "Big Foot", "cryptids" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:50 PM
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There is nothing that women desire more than the freedom they perceive to have been robbed of by the world. This is true. But it has nothing to do with feeling lesser than men, and everything to do with the understanding that the predators who gleefully limit women's autonomy and freedom have the advantage of violence, as well as the immortal echoes of Puritanical history which paints women as the occasions to sin. Everything horrific which happens to girls and women: they brought on by a) being…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:40 PM
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There are far too many competent fathers and competent men in caring professions like medicine, primary and secondary education, non-profits, and counseling positions to support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:32 PM
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Define phallic dynamics please. Oh wait, it was defined by Marilyn Frye fifty years ago. “To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:31 PM
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Oh. Damn shame men suffering depression will be ridiculed and shamed during the anti-woke regime. Men who get cheated on will be regarded as beta chumps. Men who are unable to pull young, attractive women will be laughed out of the bars and breakrooms. Old men who desperately try to get the attention of sexy, younger women will be laughed at and physically beaten by true alpha men and white knights. Anti-woke men despise weaker, unsuccessful poor men, and mercilessly ridicule men who can't pull.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:18 PM
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Attractive and desirable men and women all get married and have families. Confirmation bias: a cognitive bias which describes the tendency to favor information that confirms one's existing beliefs or biases. Sampling error: the discrepancy between a sample's characteristics and the true characteristics of the population at large If a man trains his algorithms to show him grift and rage bait, he's going to assume the handful of naive women who had sex with a man they met online then felt fooled o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:08 PM
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As someone who frequently returns men’s insults in kind, I’m fully in favor of making fun of the way men in the media look, up to and including their height, makeup, lifts, hair line, fake hair, hair transplants, obvious cosmetic procedures, awkward posture and facial expressions, moobs, guts, rumors about their dick size, disharmony of facial features, peculiar proportions, small hands, weak wrists, and staggering insecurity. We good? Can man handle the criticism they level at women as though i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:44 PM
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You guys have got to stop fantasizing attractive men as immoral, mythical immortals. They are just people with the same life plans and goals as everyone else. And like everyone else, they outgrow messing around and settle down with someone they love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 12:48 AM
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why does actual redpill advice tell them to get in the gym, make more money, and improve themselves? If those men were already fit and athletic, they wouldn’t need to pretend to be by going to the gym at some big age to impress women with their phony interest in fitness. If men already had professional and financial ambition, they wouldn’t have to be told to pretend ambition to trick women into making them believe they are natural go-getters. If men wanted to be better people, they wouldn’t have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:19 PM
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Ask TRP, this sub, men’s rights, seduction, and every location based pick up sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:47 PM
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Let’s tell the truth here. The red pill instructs men to fake who they are, fake what they have to offer, to hide their sexism and bigotry, to conceal porn and gaming dependence. “Fake it till you make it” is the motto. The blue pill, which is the norm, informs people to represent their strengths and weaknesses honestly and to find the people who they relate to, the people who share their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:24 PM
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Because they are undereducated and afraid of losing their children. In larger cities those women have charitable legal resources, but if a man drags them into the Midwest or the Appalachian mountains, it’s going to take them longer to figure out how to prove financial abuse, isolation, neglect, and rape. But if men go about it the right way and actually try to connect with women based on shared values and treat those women well, men have a much greater chance of succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:16 PM
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What’s the difference between bet bux and a man who provides a green card? Both are paying a woman to pretend interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:54 PM
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I would also say that men have lost their minds at this point and are willing to burn it all down. Lead with honesty then, idc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:37 PM
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It's okay to admit you cannot defend the position you took to indict women, and admit that men are hypocritical on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:32 PM
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I responded to your OP, which is open to anyone. "Of course, in the case of "Grape," no one is against getting an abortion" Is it about the "baby" or not? "
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:11 PM
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Say it with your full chest, OP, in full caps. IF SHE DIDN'T ENJOY THE SEX AND IS A VICTIM OF VIOLENCE, ABORTION IS MORAL IF SHE ENJOYED THE SEX, SHE'S A MURDERER in the case of "Grape," no one is against getting an abortion Every single man who claims he's okay with abortion after rape is a fucking immoral liar who never once cared about the "rights" of an embryo. So let's just get that out of the way and expose their blatant hypocrisy. While we're speaking of hypocrisy, let's also include the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:47 PM
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I understand you’ve had bad experiences This is a near universal experience among women that many men (even here) admit. Men here argue vehemently in favor of deception in order to "win" against their perceived competitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:37 PM
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If a woman move to the US then gets married to an American man I wouldn't consider that different in any way that matters tons of people build relationships through the internet. That's a normal, healthy relationship built on shared values and shared interests, same as any other?? and thereby prettier You know, just admit that passport bros don't care about shared values or shared interests, they just want a fuck toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:35 PM
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The comment I replied to said nothing about values.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:31 PM
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why not be stagnant Not my conversation, but wtf? Because you aren't the only person in the family, nor are you the planet surrounded by subordinate orbiters who adjust their lives according to your singular experience??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:46 PM
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There are 166,100,000 men in the US today. There are 5,000 "mail order" or green card brides. The chances a man will actually marry a foreign woman is 33,220:1. 25% of those marriages end within 15 years. Red and black pilled men never stop complaining about paying for the first date, never stop fretting over being considered "beta bux" because they are unappealing to American women. Why are they so eager to fund the entire life of a woman from another country who they have nothing in common wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:44 PM
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Addicts and thieves don't commit, and narcissists cheat. But Chad? The happy and popular kid? He commits just fine. Happy people mature and desire the same things their peers and their parents enjoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:24 PM
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It's the part where they claim "I don't want to settle for less just because she's older or has a child" when she is also settling for less, since he's nearly always asocial to antisocial, has gaming or porn habits, is embittered, wildly controlling and envious of more sexually successful or attractive men. And will forever and always be gawking at attractive women and slobbering over porn or attractive coworkers/classmates vacation pics. That's the thing men here refuse to admit: that no matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:23 PM
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I just can’t fathom a world where most people have absolutely no clue on anything core to who they are until they’re like 40. Have you ever asked women why they divorce when the oldest child has graduated or near it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:39 PM
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Andropause starts earlier than menopause, I don't know why men find it so very convenient to leave this fact out. Men become clingy, weepy, easily moved to emotions other than anger, among other things. Since most men on this sub are older than most women on this sub, and most are over 35, I feel this needs to be addressed each and every time menopause is addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:35 PM
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They didn’t truly know who they were and so lacked self-awareness to select a partner that actually fit them and their values 4 He completely misrepresented himself and his level of competence and independence long enough to secure a commitment. He pretended to be neat and clean, pretended to be kind to strangers, love babies, and care about domestic and wild animals. He pretended to be Mr. Fixit and repair all the broken things, and provided solutions to the problematic things. He showed an ent…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:31 PM
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The black community didn’t call cops because of valid reasons having to do with racist alignment with Klan ideology. Had nothing to do with “black morals” or whatever you are trying to promote as a code of ethics. And it remains true today. If a black victim of domestic violence calls police, chances are the victim, not just the perpetrator, might be arrested, shot, or murdered by police. Don’t act like you forgot that body cams magically turn off in black communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:44 PM
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I haven’t been wrong yet, and men here confirm they lie and misrepresent themselves in order to win a woman over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:56 PM
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You didn’t look far enough to see the entire network of fine nerves embedded in the muscle, but idc. Not a single man demanding that women masturbate during sex had any idea before today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:04 PM
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Good god. No wonder men are so shit in bed. “The Still-Misunderstood Shape of the Clitoris” The Atlantic. Science sources at the end of the article which reveal the massive network of internal nerves, plus a bonus picture of the main body of the clitoris for the masses of incurious men out there whining that women have “low libido”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:32 PM
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Underemployed for sure, but not turning down this salary and position until I, like most (redacted) employees, are in danger while the current admin dismantles and redirects our funds to the military contractors they are deeply invested in. But don’t worry, it will “trickle down”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 06:29 PM
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That was my initial intention, but men exposed themselves as inept, entitled lovers who may or may not be heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:11 PM
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Did you see or perform combat, and do you believe that the general public is unaware that educated men and women in protected roles are instructed in basic combat but are protected by human drones expected to sacrifice their bodies so that nerds can punch in numbers on keyboards? Because gunner on convey isn’t the role you served, if you were honest with your earlier posts. Enjoy that military discount at Home Depot while laughing at homeless vets trying to sleep in parks under shrubbery while t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:06 PM
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To expose men who feel entitled to women’s bodies and who suffer an embarrassing yet willful lack of education and affinity for female partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:03 PM
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where my five college degrees finally got me in a Stolen valor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:59 PM
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Did you fight? M4 qualified? Or support? (everyone knows it’s a support role)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:52 PM
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So you were never at risk of death, never fought, never risked your life. But somehow consider yourself equal to your brothers who died so you could live a safe, protected, cushy life like every other civilian? How convenient. Enjoying those benefits and discounts while your brothers in arms rot in graves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:47 PM
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He's the masculine archetype.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:37 PM
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How would any man or woman know that he's interested or invested in sex if he's timid and prudish?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:21 PM
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Because they are concentrating on something or someone who did it right, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:12 PM
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I've been saying this for months, maybe a couple years. The retroactive jealously sub is a cuck hive. So is the limerance sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:11 PM
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Neither are men, so men with this attitude should put that thing away or masturbate. Men aren't entitled to vagina unless it's fun, because there are far too many men out there who are into mutual gratification. Pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:09 PM
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Not wrong. A formerly prolific poster confessed his deliberate incompetence with a post which read something like this: "while she refuses to make eye contact and shuts her eyes and focuses like the Buddha on her orgasm" ...because dude... she's fantasizing about someone or something else, and trying to escape whatever alien fumbling you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:08 PM
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You've never heard of Chad? The expectations of size, strength, competence, and social and athletic prowess?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:56 PM
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Meanwhile the man you respond to, who I consider ops because he's totally supportive of pick-up, is one of the top five most masculine men here, because he loves women and isn't remotely threatened by either male or female competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:44 PM
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What back-breaking, uber-masculine and taxing physical labor do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:42 PM
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Indoor men, NEETS, computer science majors, tech support, and delivery drivers don't admit taking credit for all the work that miners, bricklayers, construction workers, high steel welders, underwater welders, oil riggers, refuse collectors, pavers, air traffic controllers, slaughterhouse workers, professional athletes. The only thing in common indoor men have with those men are chromosomes, and women share half those chromosomes while also raising whole humans to functional adulthood while men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:39 PM
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And so deeply and unsettlingly uncomfortable with the idea of female sexuality independent of their use of her body. So many levels of male generational entitlement and insecure cuck trauma revealed in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:26 PM
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"Hate you"? Listen, the reference to mental hospitals and crisis means you have no business on this sub, which is for adults who debate (that means argue, sometimes vehemently) to support their competing sociopolitical or religious and cultural views. I have no idea who you are, but please take care of yourself and avoid spaces like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:25 PM
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If it's so easy, why can't men do it? Didn't men... design, build, and maintain the infrastructure? Wouldn't the whole world "collapse" if men disappeared? If men can maintain the power grid, supply clean water to huge cities, start and prevent wars, put out fires, decode foreign spy intel, code encryption which protects identity and money, hit homeruns, execute perfect chess moves... ...then surely they can eke out an orgasm from a willing woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:15 PM
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Exhausted and disappointed hot take: men who already struggle with social cues for... reasons... resent the process of learning how individual women get excited and reach satisfaction. Analogous with their frustration with all social cues. They want a trusted, rote process with zero variation and diversification, they want a predictable performance which matches the search terms the prefer on porn. If a woman has the patience or tolerance for this: perfect match. Most women would never allow the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:06 PM
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They don't know. They are pretending to know, and still doubling down and pretending that the clitoris is too tiny to address. They really don't know and don't care. One of the posters who deleted his posts claimed he was taught about the clitoris, but I have access through work to every single science and medical journal, and the actual clitoris isn't taught in any public school or community college format. It's solely self-taught by curious people excited about mutually gratifying sex, or peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:00 PM
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I didn't attack you at all, but I'm amused by your contradictory statement, as will any and every reader. I'll post it again for posterity. if your trying to suggest that stimulating it is not the easiest way to make a woman orgasm Why aren't you informing the OP and all the other entitled men here how easy it is to stimulate the clitoris to orgasm? Write the step by step tutorial right now. What's stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:33 PM
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that stimulating it is not the easiest way to make a woman orgasm, Irony so thick I taste blood. holy shit. If it's so easy, just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:25 PM
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Yeah there are whole fetish/porn categories which revolve around "free use" and there are apparently women who are totally fine and even excited about being used, maybe because it excuses their responsibility and helps dissipate religious or cultural shame? None of our business, but there are definitely women and men who find the emotionally detached use of their body pleasurable, at least some of the time. No big deal. But we aren't getting that from the angry men here. They are mad that they "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:24 PM
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Oh hey, I thought I missed something and checked your username. I don't humiliate men online, I use social media for learning, not for social clout. I don't have a single photo of myself or any of my friends or family, no videos of men. I am a consumer, not a customer. But the second I realize I've been lied to, I'll happily pretend to be taking a photo for "memories" when the man who swore he won a trophy for golf then swings like a monkey, who knows everything about hiking freaks the fuck out …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:20 PM
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Most men aren't clueless oafs, but trp has created two generations of angry, rejected, disaffected men who hate the women they desire, and also taught incurious, anti-intellectual men mid century sexual intel. I don't even have to mention the damage weaning a penis on porn causes. If a man isn't a porn star, he doesn't deserve dick worship. If he has no interest in her orgasm, she isn't required to be interested in his. If such a man has access to a willing naked woman, she's done enough by prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:15 PM
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Using the search engine of your choice, find the Atlantic article about the 3D model of the clitoris. If you are debating in good faith, you will admit you have a gap in your education.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:11 PM
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Okay at this point, I'm going to ask, but I'm going to use the collective "you". Answer however you like, by guessing how other men might feel based on your powers of empathy, or answer for yourself, idc. Do you enjoy seeing her get turned on and getting off, or are you going through the motions in order to get access to her body? Do you find figuring out the mood, the tempo, and the urgency fun, or aggravating and frustrating? Do you enjoy the variation, how sometimes it's slow and affectionate…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 01:05 PM
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No, he doesn't post. He just sits with me on breaks sometimes and asks me to post questions or comments. He has a sister on the spectrum (one of my brothers is, too) who is trying to date and is working towards supporting her without making things worse for her. Trying to figure out what her prospects and pitfalls might look like. He's a good guy, and older man's man who loves his vulnerable sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:58 PM
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It requires the cooperation of the partner who bears children. Source: any farm, anywhere. Any nature documentary about social mammals. Or, and this is going to tax red pilled men: science education.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:48 PM
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Chad loves getting women off, that’s why he’s popular. Because he likes women and is into mutual pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:47 PM
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No fucking way these men are ever going to figure out that a woman’s primary sex organ is her brain. Imagine this scenario. Woman has sex for the first time with boyfriend A. Next day, he says or texts: “Last night was amazing. Can’t wait to tear into you again” vs boyfriend B: “Look I know you didn’t orgasm, but you could have masturbated while I used your vagina like a fleshlight”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:46 PM
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Most women have a experienced a man who enjoyed getting them off, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:44 PM
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This is my experience as well, with a sample size of four. Even the men I didn’t end up with are clearly turned on by their effect on women, and recognize that a woman’s primary sex organ is her brain. Flirting, teasing, promising a good time, and knowing when and how to kiss and touch indicate that a lot (I assumed it was most) men enjoy the whole process of seduction and pleasing. That’s why those men are popular, the confidence and interest in women conveys. Same for me. Discovering his favor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:43 PM
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Nope, we are just dismissing men’s laze. If a woman has to masturbate to reach orgasm, he isn’t worth the effort or the risk. Too many GGG men out there who love giving pleasure as much as receiving. No women desire an inept lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:11 PM
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Yeah that isn’t true, it’s that a particular mod and I share an interest in science and argue over the same topic often, so we cross swords often. Shit thing to do, mod, you know who you are. I’m rarely if ever in the daily thread, stick to one or two topics. And some of my posts are from a coworker who is fascinated but he won’t make a profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:07 PM
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The knowledge replaced the guessing about the “G spot”, and solved the mystery of why the sweet spot for orgasms caused by internal stimulation is in different locations for different women. Some cannot orgasm without external stimulation, some prefer internal, some prefer both. But the clitoris is like an iceberg, and all the terrific parts buried inside lead to those amazing contractions during her orgasm. And provides multiple routes of stimulation, and explains why penetration feels good to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:02 AM
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There are adults here discussing sexual pleasure, no one needs a lecture on Puritanical ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:55 AM
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Dude women don’t want to get pregnant in every sexual encounter even when they are with the love of their life. Apply reason and common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:44 AM
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What does it say? I’m using a work device and can’t use any social media apps, I have to use the old version of Reddit on a browser.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:43 AM
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Did you read anything in a study about STIs about sexual pleasure or orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:26 AM
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I’m don’t know, I can’t see flair and haven’t changed anything. There is a solid possibility a mod here who hates me changed something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:25 AM
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Men who have a death grip, a porn habit, are out of shape, suffer religious or cultural inhibition, body image issues, or who have health problems and/or meds which hinder sexual pleasure have lots of trouble having an orgasm. (Same for women)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:21 AM
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No one taught you that men have exponentially fewer inhibitions, and exponentially fewer chances of getting pregnant or being harmed during the process?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:19 AM
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That’s the typical way sex goes down, if the man has any interest in mutual pleasure. Sadly there are only a few men like you in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:16 AM
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That says nothing about the frequency nor does it say anything about bringing a partner to orgasm. That’s a study about how HPV gets transmitted, has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual pleasure. Participants in the survey could have “tried it once in high school”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:14 AM
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Probably desperately trying to arch her back and hold her hips in a position which stimulates her while he starts and stops, ruining the rhythm and interrupting her pleasure because he can’t last.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:10 AM
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Describe it, then, and please indicate the health book so that I can see what you claim to have learned in class.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:07 AM
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The clitoris wasn’t fully dissected and understood until about thirty years ago. The new information wouldn’t be in recent health texts in elementary or high school because of the political trends towards anti intellectualism and Puritanism. The clitoris is many times larger and more complex than most men know, and it’s the only human organ which exists solely for sexual pleasure. It’s taught in college, but few men here attended, and if they did, few took science or health based classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:58 AM
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Pity you don’t take the time to learn more before responding with bad, outdated information.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 09:53 AM
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Same. But it’s common here, it’s conservative entitlement to women’s bodies, I think. Don’t know if they hate sex or hate women, maybe a combo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:40 AM
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Have you had to tell a woman how to touch you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:38 AM
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The way you and OP describe it, the man is using her body as a sex toy while she masturbates alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:20 AM
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I find the resentment expressed here really disturbing. If we can see how aggravated some men are at “having to learn how to get her off”, their partners have surely given up on it ever been mutually exciting and gratifying. If a partner was frustrated and rolling their eyes and barking orders to just do it yourself I’d hate them immediately and forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:19 AM
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Men: “Women, for Pete’s sake why can’t you just masturbate while we use your body the way we want to.” Also men: “Why do women ghost, why do women divorce, why are men are so lonely”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:08 AM
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You are not wrong. Women learn in high school and college that some men pay attention and learn how, when, and where to touch a woman, and others just paw blindly and wait for instructions. A bad experience just feels like she wasted her time and hope on a selfish centered man and it leaves a bad memory. But the first guy? That feels like love. Forever chasing that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:06 AM
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That works okay in doggie, not great in other positions. So gettin banged feels great when his pubic bone gets pressed, rubbed, or slammed into her clitoris. If her hand is in the way, he isn’t hitting the angles which feel great. If her hand is in the way, he’s barely penetrating or risking a slip out, which hurts. If her hand is in the way and he’s thrusting at a different tempo than she is, throws off the whole thing. If he’s just barely in and she does manage an orgasm, the contractions are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:53 AM
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Women do have a refractory period and not all women are multiorgasmic. But they are very good at paying attention to their partner’s reactions and adjusting accordingly. I made out with a woman in college and gave her an orgasm just kissing her neck and messing around underneath her clothes in the back seat of a car, and I’m not gay or bi. Men are just incredibly selfish and working off the “education” they think they received from watching commercial porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:47 AM
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This place is just some alternate universe where men resent women and want to punish them by depriving them of orgasms. I’ve only had four long term relationships but all four were more enthusiastic about my pleasure as their own. I don’t get it. Men spend years of their lives feverishly masturbating, so when they finally get a partner, why aren’t they enjoying the whole feast? They have no idea what they are missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:43 AM
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Odd question. His excitement excites me. Tearing him to pieces and getting him to the edge of losing control is what turns me on. Thanks to this thread, I was today years old when I discovered that people aren’t excited by their partner’s excitement. I’d die of shame and likely disgust if my partner wasn’t enthusiastic and well on his way to ecstasy. I could never use someone’s body then leave them unsatisfied and walk away whistling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:38 AM
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🙋‍♀️ I do. I’ll do all the work. I only have sex when in love, and when I’m in love, I’m not done until I’ve ruined him for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:32 AM
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Openly hating women while dying for female attention and validation is going to land all you red and black pill men in the nuthouse someday. You guys have got to work through this dilemma you’ve created for yourself. Never seen men so eager to cockblock themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:30 AM
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Do any of the men in this thread know that the clitoris is analogous to the penis and that the vast majority of it is buried inside and wraps around the vaginal canal? Or do men believe it’s just that tiny little button on the outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:26 AM
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Guys have no interest in women’s anatomy and most don’t know what the clitoris actually looks like and that the internal clitoris is enormous compared to the tiny button outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:24 AM
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Other men here admit they consider porn an education. I think I’d laugh, climb out of bed and block the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:19 AM
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Two women have no problem at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:13 AM
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where the woman is on-top, upright and bouncing like an Amazon is a rarity. That’s to get you off, not herself off. What do you think bouncing straight up and down does for her? Some men really don’t know anything about The Angles, do they? Look, I’m not even going to quote you but everything you wrote is wrong, so wrong. When men are having sex, they are trying to postpone their orgasm. That means a lot of starting and stopping, changing tempo, changing positions. When a woman is working toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:09 AM
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🦀🪣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:29 AM
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The campaigns to stop bulling against women have had zero effect on men, and now an army of disaffected men who have been rejected by women have doubled down on the body shaming and criticizing. One hundred years of making fun of women for being ugly, flat chested, flat bottomed, for gaining weight after pregnancy, for having no waist results in a pushback. No one should be surprised that women finally fought back and started noting short men and balding men. Men have been training women to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:59 PM
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I suppose if a man spends all his time searching for hot women in bikinis to jerk off to, he might think all women do that. And I suppose if a man is attracted to women in bathing suits, he might assume there are no styles and no fashion in swimsuits and vacation clothing. Yes, but they still don't try to attain physiques that women claim to find attractive, i.e. they don't listen to women just like women don't listen to men regarding nails and whatnot. Women who work out do find it appealing. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:44 PM
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Women have friends, and fashion is one of the hobbies women do together, it’s just one of many communal hobbies like design, photography, craft, etc. There is a lot more to social media than scrolling for vacation pics to jerk off to, which is what men use it for. And men openly admit they go to the gym to appeal to women or other men if they are gay or bi. The next time men host a bitchfest here or on Ask Men (it’s a daily event there, and one here yesterday) about all the things men hate about…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:33 PM
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I'm happy for your husband that he has a wife who can wake up one day, see him preparing french toasts and think "this is so romantic, I love him more than ever" Ask the men who got dumped if they miss it. Ask the divorced men living on Doritos and soda. Ask the men who have never had a woman show them love if they would find those daily acts of care and love to be special or romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:09 PM
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Since he can buy and prepare his own damn food. Just because a man assumes his wife wants to take over his mother’s role doesn’t mean she isn’t showing love by making an effort to show she cares about his happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:07 PM
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Men do performative chivalry because they believe that’s how they can outcompete other men. They buy flowers, jewelry, and drugstore cards on holidays because that’s men’s definition of what women expect. A man with any empathy and care for an individual woman learns how she and she alone likes to be loved. It might be a dozen roses, but it’s more likely roadside flowers and a picnic, or a houseplant and a home cooked meal that he shops for, prepares, and cleans up. You know, in the same way a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:51 PM
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Is this the thing where men decide that every piece of clothing a woman chooses is to attract men? That makeup isn’t for play and hobby, but is in fact somehow… for men? That women go out in public for the express purpose of hunting for men to lure? Because no. This is all men’s tendency to project their internal experience on others. Men complain constantly about women’s clothing, their makeup, their piercings, tattoos, choices in haircut or color. And women continue to do as they please withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:47 PM
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Those women prefer men with critical thinking skills because they expect to enjoy their lives with a man who can hold a conversation with the them and won’t embarrass them in front of friends and family with conspiracy theories or baseless arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:01 PM
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Most men make more than most women, it’s the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:12 AM
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Because they are busy and career focused and presumably looking for someone equally ambitious. Most men my age don’t own a home, but I do. And I didn’t buy it to impress men. I work for the same reason everyone else does, to support myself and buy the things I enjoy. Men get this wrong because almost everything they do revolves around getting female validation and they simply don’t realize that very few women live that way. If men would get their heads out of their asses they would understand th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:58 AM
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but women care much less about this, Wrong. If a woman is going to have sex for the duration of her natural life, it needs to be with a man she’s excited by and attracted to. "Gym-cels" or RedPillers who whine about being single when they go to the gym every day and have six pack abs. Because they are no fun and their personalities as interesting as a wet paper bag. The average woman also overestimates the importance of their career/education in attracting a man. Having a high paying job won't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:40 AM
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The reason women have been running to divorce court is because men haven’t been accountable. Generations of men used women for their bodies, for 24/7 365 on call labor. Maid/parent/teacher/incubator/chef/personal shopper/secretary/nurse/social events and holiday planner/husband’s sex toy who never received the gratification he did. Decades of unappreciated, unpaid labor for nothing?? Damn right she gets a portion of what they earned during the marriage. He couldn’t have paid a full time staff to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:32 AM
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Everyone who pays taxes has the right to vote. That includes kids who start working at 15 and six months. They have a better education in civics and government than all the lead poisoned Boomers anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:14 AM
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I don’t know why men bring up the military. I don’t know any woman who thinks teenagers ought to be signed up to die, or even sign months to years of their lives away in a contract. It’s too young for predators, too young for the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:24 PM
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The military recruits men as young as fifteen and asks them to sign contracts at 17 precisely because they are young, stupid, naive, and not fully formed. Most 21-25 year olds are too smart to run into war.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:33 PM
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… … who could possibly know anyone’s thoughts unless they’ve taken action?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:48 AM
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If you aren’t communicating your thoughts, what is the problem? Is it intrusive thoughts? Religious guilt? This thread is all over the place because there are men in it who admit they deliberately try to mess with women’s sense of peace and safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:47 AM
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What did you mean by your comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:45 AM
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Why is leering and gawking at women and teens considered “masculine” to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:01 AM
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How do men feel when women record and post leering men to social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:57 AM
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Women also notice attractive, tall, fit, and confident men with good posture who are dressed appropriately for the environment and for the environment but they are still human beings deserving of respect. Even when wearing bike shorts and going shirtless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:54 AM
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How often do you go swimming? Most of us are dressed for the environment, and the awkward men in jorts and shoes are awkward and obvious and get chased off before they can record much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:52 AM
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Bonobos aren’t rapists, there is little to no danger in existing as a female bonobo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:04 AM
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Nothing new from men. They stare and leer precisely because they know it makes women uncomfortable and nervous. They know they are bigger and stronger and live to punish women for developing breasts and hips as if women do it on purpose. They also know attractive men women’s own age don’t behave like lecherous old buzzards. They do it because they get off on making women feel like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:03 AM
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Yeah, women can absolutely be outraged by leering creeps, because they are gross and acting out deliberately.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:54 AM
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How can men still pretend it’s the clothing? Rape is rampant in countries and cultures where women are covered in cloth head to toe. The dove project . org will prove to you that women and girls have been raped while wearing full military regalia, men’s pajamas, onesies, diapers, and sweats. Stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:48 AM
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Have you never seen actually nude women on your phone, or porn of any kind? How can someone’s summer clothing compete with the staggering and endless array of nudes and perversity online?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:43 AM
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People who suffer intrusive thoughts need to forgive themselves and realize no one can see inside your head if you don’t give away any tells. Don’t leer, don’t scan, don’t stare, don’t follow and no one will ever know. Cognitive behavioral therapy might help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:40 AM
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Men are not visual creatures. They can’t match clothing, very few have any sense of fashion or style, most live in the equivalent to a frat house with toys and posters on the wall. Men make fun of modern art, lose their minds when dragged into a home decor, roll their eyes at handmade items. Men just behave the way they do because they are bigger and stronger and they know women are mostly powerless to stop them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:36 AM
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You’re supposed to mind your own business and look at the billions of pornographic images on your phone, because we live in a society and manners and decorum are vital.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:33 AM
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You confess nothing whatsoever is stopping you from attending gay bars or holding male only events. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 08:26 PM
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Why do men hate their kids and want them to suffer and live with less than their father or mother can provide? What about your “legacy”? The constant chiding about “who will care for your in your old age” and “Muh population replacement rate”? Because I’ll tell those kids how their father felt about them and I’ll help them slam those stingy old men into a nursing home faster than a sneaker wave. Enjoy the diapers and lonliness, shitty dads
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:12 PM
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That makes me sad, but it would explain so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:33 PM
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I don’t get men’s problem with this, I love every member of my family whether biological, adopted, or temporary. I wouldn’t feel “cucked” if I adopted, fostered, or fell in love with a man with children. Some of these men truly resent children other than the convenience of an anchor which keeps their woman at home even in an unhappy marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:28 PM
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I don’t believe there is a wall, but men who who wait until they are thirty to date are in no position to expect virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:26 PM
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I hope so, but I also know where we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:02 PM
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You couldn’t be more wrong. Red/black pill entitlement is off the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:17 PM
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They don’t exist unless you provide them evidence. A broken link is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:48 PM
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Women don’t want a lifetime of sexual and domestic servitude with a man who regards them as lesser, or a man they can’t stand. Kind of important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:44 PM
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I assumed that meaning biological, whether married, divorced, or never married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:41 PM
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Women don’t want that. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:33 PM
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An adopted brother is deaf and he's super lazy and tends to sign with one hand, which makes it hard for me to understand, but he's flying when amonst his hearing impairped peers. He's in DC near Gallaudet, but when he comes back for visits he always brings a couple friends and they are the laziest signers who understand one another just fine. Stuff was kind of a different world back then for disabled kids. I'm actually with an older collogue all week and we hit it off and I just asked him how fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:07 PM
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Yep, but all of their friends did, too. I graduated with... maybe thirty exchange students? I don't know how many fosters, but it was the norm when I was 13+. Foster kids are far more common now. I work in a wealthy city with several colleges, and the line for foster kids is looong. The system is begging even young single women and men to foster. I've done it 6 times now, five long term, even though I only agreed to emergency/temp status. My two counties recognize that group homes are detrimenta…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:01 PM
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His inability to attract women without children at an appropriate age implies the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:43 PM
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Love has both colloquial and deeper meanings. Literal thinkers who live to nitpick aren't in a position to describe love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:42 PM
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Sounds like he isn't in a position to have a wife or kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:41 PM
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No one believes that's all your mother did for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:40 PM
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You can also literally go to jail for failing to make payments on time, even if you're dead broke. Child support is based on his or her income.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:22 PM
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Big doubt you raised yourself to adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:21 PM
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Desire, infatuation, obsession, fixation, and lust are not synonymous with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:19 PM
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Oh. I didn't realize my experience was unique. I love those kids, and love the handful of kids I've taken in as much as I'd love my own without any thought of their parents. And I'm near thirty, so I know a lot of recent divorcees who are dating and falling in love with parents of kids, and they all seem pretty happy and cohesive. I don't think I'm naive at all. I'm certain that the red/black pill echo chamber is determined to keep men in the crab bucket, and implying step and adoptive fathers a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:09 PM
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My parents are old, but expressed gratitude for the kids. I'm aware that shit people exist who take in foster kids for the measly government stipend, but the vetting process for kids with special needs is extensive and geez we've always been grateful for the opportunity to learn and grow with them. My BIL is a STAHD, but fluent in ASL because he joined our family after my parents (shaky but okay with ASL) were begged to take in hearing impaired twins. He loved it and continues to be on call for …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:04 PM
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Are you saying men should be paying women to teach their kids to floss? Yeah??? Because men sure aren't fucking doing any of the work beyond the bare minimum. Be prouder of letting kids' teeth rot out and allowing them to follow a path of heart disease, stroke, heart attack, and Alzheimer's. Minimize the importance of teaching kids basic health care and hygiene more and watch even more women lose respect for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:52 PM
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My parents had a litter of kids, I have a bunch of brothers and sisters, and as they aged, my parents and elder siblings started taking in exchange students and foster kids, all of whom greatly enriched our lives and we loved/continue to love them even if they flew back to their original environment. The horseshit from the red pill about "paternity" is just that: horseshit. Most men are perfectly capable of loving kids they didn't create, but red/black pill men are taught selfishness and jealous…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:49 PM
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I don't click on links other than scientific citations. not that im against it i support a gender neutral society... No such thing in human history or human future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:47 PM
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I suppose you can cite your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:46 PM
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"Put up with"? GR, noooo. I'm younger than you and even I know that we choose our fosters and adopted kids based on what we feel we can offer them, and the handicaps are understood and accepted prior to signing the final papers. Unless you grew up on a foster farm, you were pre-loved and were never a burden, but a gift. If it was the former, then bless you for your patience with others here, if you were raised to regard yourself as a burden. My brother/s sisters are often a pain in the ass, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:45 PM
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You know what the services are. But humor yourself here. Pretend you moved far away from your family and work forty hours per week and those hours don't coincide with two kids' school and extracurricular hours. Now imagine being in charge of transport to school buying their clothing as they grow like weeds buying the clothing they need for sports and/or other extracurricular activities buying their clothing as they outgrow it buying the clothing they require for gym buying the accessories and su…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:41 PM
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"Most people are stupid" tells the whole story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:23 PM
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KR, if you can find a spot, please please talk about adopted/step/foster children. I don't have your knack for diplomacy, and I'm feeling angry (I never feel anything when dicking around here) at the number of men who are gloating they resent-to-despise other men's children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:21 PM
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Even a parent loving their child is dependent on the condition that they're their child, That isn't true at all, many of us love our foster siblings, our foster children, our steps and adopted kids. Evo-psych has destroyed men's charitable and empathetic tendencies. Do red/black pill men realize how they alienate their brothers with this hateful rhetoric? Would you walk right up to an adopted or foster child and tell him "your father never loved you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:20 PM
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How can you be a friend or partner to women with this level of misanthropy? Are you sure that others don't find misanthropes to be stupid and inept? Are you certain there is no room for compromise?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:17 PM
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Can you add anything about mutual attraction? It's difficult to respond to a request for unconditional love when he (and it's almost always a he asking for this) doesn't profess unconditional love for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:16 PM
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Single men with full custody pay for all those services, unless their mommy takes over. But they never paid their children's mother for the same tasks. Defend that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:10 PM
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They are the entire support system who can easily leave and support themselves and do it alone rather than take on the care and feeding of an adult male. A guy has to choose carefully because he has more to lose in a divorce No he doesn't, since he is incapable and unwilling to replace the role of wife and mother and will have to pay a dozen other people to replace her role if she disappears. (or give the children to his mommy, which is a cop-out). A lot of these qualities too are just missing f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:09 PM
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who do you think wins in a divorce when you’re making more money? The man who enjoys the benefit of an unpaid servant who replaces the womb, the incubator, the wet nurse, the nurse, the chef, the secretary, the personal shopper, the laundress, the chauffer, the housecleaner, the social planner, and the human calendar for the duration of the marriage. He never pays for the multitude of her services, so she never gets a chance to accrue savings, contribute to a retirement plan or social security.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:56 PM
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They dont see kids as family to love unconditionally, they see kids as a symbol of their relationship, so when the relationship ends, caring about the child also ends. Perfectly described men who throw a fit about child support payments. If they don't want their children to live a comfortable, well-fed and cared-for life, they resent both the mother and the child and fight child support. "Muh legacy" is an will always be a bullshit red herring designed to justify a fear of women with any sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:28 PM
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Then you aren't red/black pill nor conservative, so who are you arguing with here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:25 PM
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If you’re a college graduated man you’re going to want to get with someone with similar goals Oh, so you're neither conservative nor red/black pill. Only people who get with attractive people without thinking about values and goals are usually all women and look how thats worked out with all the mess we have in the modern dating age Women deliberately choose men they share values and experiences with and also men they are attracted to. Educated women aren't dating cashiers. But red/black pill an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:22 PM
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This is peculiar. Men claim they will be happy with a cashier or Starbucks barista. But... Men claim that attractive women are superior, and the chances that a woman hired to tend bar is likely to be attractive, and we already know she's educated. So which value is it men are concerned about? Could it be her exposure to attractive, promiscuous men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:56 PM
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Shared values and mutual attraction aren't important to men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:06 PM
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But current feminists are weak and pathetic. They talk a big game online but fold IRL. So... what is your opinion of the MGTOW who never, ever actually went their own way but fixated on women to the point of threatening violence against them? I know several feminist, Anti Trumper women who make an exception for their MAGA boyfriends because he's "sweet". What a fucking joke. Big doubt. Men do lie about who they are, but women have left men and cut off their own family members for their far right…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:03 PM
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men had spaces but women always barge in No one buys this argument when gay men have hundreds of bars all over every western country which embrace men with open arms. If gay men can make men only and male dominated spaces to find camaraderie and community, surely a bunch of aggressive right leaning rednecks can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:00 AM
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Surprised any men had any concerns. For a couple years men kept claiming they were going their own way and women collectively shrugged and went back to whatever they were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:08 PM
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Or… try meeting people in a different setting with a different context more conducive to socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:12 PM
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You’re acting like fear of rejection or being misjudged isn’t valid when the stakes for men include public shame or worse. The fear of rejecting a man who might or might not lose his shit and follow you to the parking lot is a valid fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:00 PM
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Men who are successful don’t clock a woman in the produce aisle, make a beeline straight for her or follow her to an empty aisle only to ask a phony, made up reason to talking at her. They enjoy organic small talk. Unforced. They smile and wait to see if she smiles back. They don’t go hunting for women like a predator. If a man or woman can’t figure this out, cold approaching isn’t for them. Again this social expectation for men to pursue women The person who wants something is expected to go an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:40 PM
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And just like OP, men aren’t required free to reject women who wear makeup, correct? Not required to date women who wear makeup, perfectly free to avoid talking to or marrying women who wear makeup. Looks like you fully support the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:47 PM
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Women don’t make the same amount as men, and literally cannot work the same hours when tasked with gestating, birthing, and raising children, even if they do manage to work part or full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:43 PM
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How does wearing makeup in any way compare to getting in women’s faces, negging, phony pick up lines and generally interfering with their day?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:42 PM
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Makeup isn’t something women do at men. Men aren’t required to look at makeup, wear makeup, or like makeup, unless you’ve had the unfortunate experience of dozens of women getting in your face and demanding to know how you feel about their makeup. You can simply avert your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:33 PM
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Even if some of that is done for attention from the opposite sex, it’s the man she’s mutually attracted to, not the other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:28 PM
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Yep. The top earner in the house can either pay ‘em now or pay ‘em later. Can’t believe men are still whining about the 20 years of round the clock care and service their wives and mothers put in for the price of a shitty Mother’s Day card.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:25 PM
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It caused a lunch table brawl at my workplace. Two of the men who do well with women couldn’t see it and were enraged by the idea that women might “conspire” against them (yes, that is exactly how they framed the idea that a woman might not want a man’s attention for whatever reason), but an intern who was on the deep end of the ASD spectrum had no problem spotting it. I don’t think it’s an introvert/extravert thing or a NT/ND thing, seems more like a “people who make good eye contact vs people …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:26 PM
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This is precisely what women mean when they say "Just treat women like people". Women don't know if they like a man until some kind of rapport has been established, and men don't, either. They've got to learn to chill and wait to see how the first meeting unfolds before playing their hand and demanding numbers or a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:56 PM
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Men continue to believe the pick-up horseshit works because they are just terrible at reading people and don't realize that a woman who presents a rejection with a dry or nervous smile isn't actually flattered by the pick up lines. She's just using good manners to safely extract herself from an uncomfortable situation. The pick up subs are full of men claiming "But women love the attention, they always say they are flattered but spoken for, bitches love compliments, the attention boosts their eg…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:53 PM
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Not if you don’t even like her and don’t know anything about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:48 AM
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And there it is. You guys literally hate women, stop pretending you’re “heartbroken” that a woman doesn’t want to date you. You aren’t friendzoned, you waste your time hovering around the people you despise the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:35 AM
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Okay that’s three men here claiming they have female friends they know nothing about. Guys, those women aren’t your friends, since you can’t be bothered to take the least bit of interest in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:16 AM
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An actual friend would know who she is interested in or who she is dating. Do you pay attention to her at all? Show an interest in her life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:06 AM
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Kinda seems like you are just now realizing that refusing to give financial compensation for domestic and parental tasks is actually slavery. Alimony exists because the legal system acknowledges that stay at home or part time wives and mothers have no chance to work and contribute to their savings or retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:01 AM
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Alimony will stop when husbands financially compensate their wives for all of the domestic and parental tasks they take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:58 AM
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someone your friend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:55 AM
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If you don’t know who she is interested in romantically or sexually, you two are not friends. You are strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 02:39 AM
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Can you not think you'd make a good partner to her? Let’s go back to this. How are you in a position to decide what is best for her? Are you her father? And how can you be a good partner if she isn’t romantically or sexually attracted?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:55 PM
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If he doesn't care about my desires and my preferences and my goals as much as his own, yeah, he's a manipulator and a fraud. Perhaps if you were a better person, they’d view you as deserving of more. Oh gosh, you've darn near crippled me with that insult. I might cry. No, men just fucking lie, and they are proud of it. It's universal. Men pretend to be everyone they are not in order to lock down a commitment from a woman. Thankfully I've finally arrived at a better method of vetting, though I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 03:03 PM
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SHE ISN'T ATTRACTED ON A ROMANTIC OR SEXUAL LEVEL
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:22 PM
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We ask men to rationalize attraction to obese women every day Who asks men that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:21 PM
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It really bugs me that men are so self-important that they cannot conceive that a woman's preferences are equally important as a man's. "Love is the condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own" (Heinlein) Men whining about the friendzone only care about their own happiness, not hers. Which is what Lil clearly stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:20 PM
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If you know she has other preferences and you aren't it, you don't care about her at all. You are acting in a self-serving manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:15 PM
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Listen, nothing either of you said makes sense on any level, either metaphorical or literal. I assumed I missed a meme, and figured it was a poorly cobbled joke. I still have no idea wtf either of you are trying to communicate with that phrase. I don't really care that you are deeply offended at being questioned about your knowledge of food plants. Can you skip ahead and just explain what you are trying to communicate?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:14 PM
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The "message" is incoherent either way. Can you rephrase it so it makes sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:11 PM
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The majority of women encourage men to have female friends. They explain patiently why cold approach doesn't work well, and it's because women prefer men they share common values and interests with. A few recommend making friendly noises instead of abruptly demanding phone numbers and dates. Flirting is indeed the universal method of communicating interest, and it's a very low-risk way of testing the waters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:10 PM
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Hey, it's okay to be wrong. I asked someone else about the origin of the quote, and when a second person repeated it, I figured I missed a meme and wondered if it was satire. Very few people know or care where their food comes from, and many people live on pre-prepared food. You aren't required to know plant families. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:06 PM
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I did? Men who are desperate tend to try to force romance or sex out of every single friendship with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:00 PM
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That said, I'm fairly sure you wouldn't either if English was your third language. Shall we continue the conversation in Spanish or Italian, if me being precise about botanical terminology is so important to you? Duuuude. I speak read three languages, speak two, and write two. But botany is Latin. Which all three of the languages you are so proud of are based on, so no... nothing was fucking lost in translation, you simply have no idea what you are talking about. I assumed, incorrectly, that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:58 PM
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Men who don't try to date every woman who stands next to them can. Men who don't try to force sexual attraction on their platonic friends can't. Desperate men can't be friends with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:49 PM
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It might be different for everyone. I've seen women here write they've developed an attraction to someone in their friend group. For me, I'm either physically attracted or I'm not, and proximity won't change it. A man who pretends to be a friend while performing to try to impress me and demonstrate how many ways he's "better" than who I actually prefer is repellent. Can't stand that kind of manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:46 PM
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Spinach doesn't look, taste, or small like anything in the nightshade family. All leaves in the nightshade family are toxic. Not that any indoor Dorito and Dew lovers give a shit, but that quote is bizarre, coming from people who at least pretend to care about facts and logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:10 PM
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I prefer cake to spinach because spinach is actually a close relative to nightshade, which as you know is very poisonous. Where did this come from? Because it's stupidly incorrect. Nightshades: potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants tomatillos, peppers...but not spinach. Spinach = Amaranthaceae
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:09 PM
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That isn’t what I meant. Women want a man they can relate to, a man they are compatible with. Someone with whom they share values and experiences and interests. Not sure how you could so badly misconstrue the purpose of those groups. They exist because men are liars. Women use those groups to avoid getting involved with lying cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:54 AM
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Are the men okay? Do they understand that women use the groups to vet men before going out the them because they don’t trust men and hate cheaters?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:52 PM
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You believe chivalry benefits women??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:46 PM
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You brought it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:43 PM
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MF! My parents didn't have to tell me how to cooperate in a house full of kids, and I was always happy to use my strengths to support family and friends, and still do. I have never at any point in my life asked "What's in it for me", I've simply contributed my fair share for living in a family or society without expecting Quid Pro Quo. That's how damn near every human and every social animal behaves. Don't ask questions, simply consider others and participate. If a kid is 13 and sees a classmate…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:42 PM
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I hope you do feel that both incel and hypergamy are useless terms. Incel because some or many of those men aren't comfortable with sex in their cultural sphere, anyway, and that's why they struggle. Hypergamy because it has no meaning in the human condition. Women have always been tasked with gestation, nursing, childcare, and elder/infirm care, so women as a whole have never and will never be in a position to outearn men. Women as a whole are smaller than men. That's sexual dimorphism, the nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:36 PM
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I'm asking about the contemporary origin and perpetuation. You mentioned it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:28 PM
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RP was thrown together by dudes in the USA for dudes in the USA for hooking up with women in the clubs I accidently grew up in a generation 20 years older because my siblings are twice my age, but it's my understanding that men and women in the 70s/80s/90s had no problem hooking up because young people were mostly on the same page: seek higher education/have fun/enjoy your youth/prepare for marriage, family, and career. My oldest siblings (there's a whole litter) did not experience what I've enc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:26 PM
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I want to know where a specific subgroup of men get the idea that chivalry is valid, when it was was always and continues to be performative horseshit designed to convince women to choose them. Pick me behavior since the Middle Ages, and as transparent as glass. Unless... it's how ACE men add value by pretending to suppress "baser instincts" they don't possess, anyway. I've always suspected the latter, but if you want to prove me wrong or provide provenance, I'd love to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:15 PM
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Your diplomacy, as always, is top notch, but it's lost on black and white thinkers, who want definitive instructions and formulas. Thing is, people with ASD of any level are at a social disadvantage for sure, but they can also be complete jerks who expect to be treated with kid gloves because "they can't help it", while at the same time, acting out horribly towards others because "they can't help it". And here is where you and I diverge. Most can fucking help it. They know very well they receive…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:04 PM
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There isn't anything a man could do or say which would convince me to take his last name, the social, professional, and political risks to women are too great.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:51 PM
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Also, humans are bad at letting go of tradition, so lots of men still hold on to the idea of chivalry because "It's just what you do" or "That's how I was raised." Hey, write me an essay please. No matter how long, I've been longing to figure out where this comes from for a decade now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:49 PM
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I ain't taking their name if they give me or a loved one a kidney. But I live in the US, where the looming threat of fucking with women's ability to vote and travel freely is stinking like fossil fuels.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:48 PM
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Listen, if you can figure out where the current generations of men got the idea of chivalry, state it plainly. Because of reasons, I've lived in a dozen radically culturally diverse towns and cities in the US since birth and I've been exposed to every US culture and religious tradition from worldwide to snake-handling fundies, and damned if I know where or how the idea of the chivalrous white knight led 90% of red and black pill men to the manosphere. Probably post rationalization of an inhibite…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:46 PM
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Will still expect a version of their own mother, even if they are "kind enough" to expect a watered down version. Very few fully independent men in the world who seek an equal partner rather than a helpmeet, a caretaker, a servant, or a missing rib.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:40 PM
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All acts that could be interpreted as submission Huh? It's desire. Often one-sided, born of a sense of competition, frequently insincere and based on nothing other than his sexual desire to get there first and beat the other men who want her, too. TRP is so full of misinformation that men actually believe that women have a hard time securing commitment from men, when the opposite is true. Men are wildly desperate to outcompete other men and to that end, will propose to women they want, but don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:39 PM
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You aren't trying to get to know her better if you think she's a shallow dingbat, and she can clearly see your goal. But if and only if you actually connect to a woman and respect her, even if some of your interests diverge, flirting is how you communicate your interest. Women like sex, too, we're the same species. But women aren't inclined to have sex with men who clearly regard them as lesser humans with silly ideas. I feel like you don't realize that light hearted small talk doesn't reveal an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:30 PM
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Oh great, then go down the Joseph Campbell/mythology rabbithole for a couple days.Campbell's theory is born from mythology. You don't have to be a purist, use the platform of your choice, but stick to the scholars. There is a Ted Talk about The Hero's Journey. Start there and seed your algorithm to show you related content for a couple days, but make sure the source is reputable. but most girls i find have lame ass personality they like pop culture gossips, listening to music and binging netflix…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:24 PM
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My issue is with pat statements, claims that folks on the spectrum translate as gospel. Someone upstream said "People like agreeableness". But that's a psych term with a very specific meaning with regards to surveys, and not applicable to real life. Many if not most men who come to the manosphere in search of cheat codes or hacks take pat statements as gospel because nuance is their Achilles heel. If a man on the spectrum suddenly starts agreeing with everything his peers and women say, he's goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:20 PM
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No, you're not a villain, though you seem to be a victim of the red pill, whose members inform men that there are hacks and cheat codes to trick women into liking and dating men. i care about her interest too much If you only care because you are trying to win her over, she can see right through that manipulation because it's a habit of many men, most nefarious and full of shit. Men have the inclination to pretend to be far better than they truly are because they believe themselves to be competi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:17 PM
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We agree about a lot, I just have experience with folks with ASD and I'm aware that they are brilliant and hateful in equal parts, and have no problem addressing it head on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:09 PM
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I've never seen anyone talk about this here, but it's an important factor when teaching people with symptoms of ADHD and ASD. First impressions are what most people perceive as "personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:01 PM
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Literally going to have to provide your personality, your values, your goals, your interests, your assets, and your faults. Or mock one up. Human relations are complex and limited to your sphere and abilities. There are very few universally attractive traits or habits because humans are diverse thanks to values, religion or lack thereof, exposure to differing cultures, socialization, hobbies, interests, goals, experience, mood, attitude, mental health, physical health, beauty, lack of beauty, ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:57 PM
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Okay but who is he, and who is she, and why does he want to associate with her, why would he want to spend his life with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:51 PM
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Have you considered actually caring about her interests and experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:50 PM
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It's because men who aren't great with dating or flirting are desperate for a formula or cheat code which is universal and appealing to all women, instead of the women in their sphere with whom they share common values, common interests, common experiences. Women don't want to date a generalist/opportunist, because he doesn't actually like her or relate to her. He wants a placeholder; he wants a woman who will take care of all his domestic duties and provide sex with him. He wants the comfort of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:49 PM
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Good points, all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:04 PM
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Don’t confront, just snap a photo or pretend to, and leave for somewhere without a creep. There is no way to predict if it’s simply someone with special needs and no sense of propriety and manners, or one of the creeps who exposes himself in the parking lots of women’s stores. But definitely not worth the risk of confrontation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:16 PM
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Gotta learn how to stand up straight, walk with a long stride and with purpose, and hold direct eye contact. If all that fails to discourage a creep, aim the camera at him and his car. Creeps and criminals profile vulnerable, distracted women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:02 PM
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It’s something women teach other women, and it’s taught in sociology and criminal justice. For all men’s claims they are bad at reading body language and facial cues, they are very, very good at spotting insecurity and vulnerability, and very good at picking out naive or mousy women and teenagers to leer at and follow around while actively avoiding women with squared shoulders and direct eye contact. It’s amazing how many women are surprised when approached by other, more observant women who inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:55 PM
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So fucking gross
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:47 PM
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I didn’t know men knew about the profiling thing. Did you take a criminal justice class?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:47 PM
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Men will not admit to this. They will not admit to stepping behind objects, clothing racks, cars, pretend to be occupied by their phone so they can move to the periphery and gawk at women without being called out. They won’t admit to pretend to stare at their phones while secretly filming high school athletes, cheerleaders, and feet. Even when called out, they vehemently, indignantly deny acting like creeps. Not even when crime stats show how many men are arrested for following or stalking stran…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:46 PM
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You brought up the topic of moral decay and tried to pretend it began when women started selecting men for attraction rather than settling. I disagree with you. Moral decay began when men treated women as domestic servants and sex workers, which led women to run as fast as they could towards divorce court and the workplace as soon as the option to escape was available. Women have no desire to return to servitude under men who hate them and men they can’t stand to see naked. Men who like women an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:28 PM
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Moral decay is when women select men based on looks swag overconfidence versus the content of his character. Moral decay happened when husbands forced or coerced ungratifying and demeaning sex from wives who were not attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:22 PM
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Did your mother work and pay the same amount as your father into social security?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:34 AM
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How can women who have no choice but to stay home and raise children pay into social security? Most women weren’t hired or qualified to work prior to the 80s. When women tried to work in factories during the world wars, they were fired the minute men returned from the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:33 AM
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Beta Buxx to the nth power
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:30 AM
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Because women don’t get paid for the lifetime of unpaid labor which allows men to work longer hours, lab partner. Women also don’t get to pay into social security retirement programs since they are trapped at home doing five jobs 24/7 for 20-59 years with no pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:28 AM
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If men don’t want to have babies, why are they having unprotected sex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:17 AM
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Men exploit women for free round the clock labor for the duration of their marriage, use their wombs to incubate the progeny they barely acknowledge and their bodies for sexual gratification with no financial compensation whatsoever other than a roof over their head. Wives and mothers without a job outside the home or a part time job have no chance to contribute to social security or any investments or retirement plan. Better fuckin’ believe women are due compensation for the 24/7, 365 days per …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:26 PM
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Nope, that’s coming from an ordinary looking woman. Men simply aren’t picky, and most are desperate to date and have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:48 PM
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It’s cringe because men shouldn’t be thinking of other men when dating unless they date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:31 PM
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Men regard women as a commodity which “ought” to be fairly distributed among men. A woman is more likely to regard men as a liability, since there are always dozens more men in her life who desire her, whereas she only desires one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:30 PM
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Stop believing and promiting fake rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:28 PM
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It’s weird because women instinctively protect themselves, and the women in this thread are correct, since the poster literally creates pornographic images with cartoons on a gaming platform primarily used by kids and spends his time complicating that a rape-simulation “game” was shut down by the host. So yeah, women are going to protect themselves, and men will continue to believe they’ve “never met and don’t hang out with pedos or sex offenders” when there is almost certainly at least one in e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:14 PM
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The endless tantrum is limited to a certain type of thinker who is trapped in a loop of the time his sister got more chocolate milk in her glass. There is no fairness, because all people don’t need or want the same things, and not everyone is capable of contributing the same things. Things in life which will never be fair: Good looks. Height. Bone structure. Region of birth. Unpunished crimes. Birth defects. Insider trading. Tax breaks for the wealthy. Crimes against children, the elderly, the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:38 AM
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It isn’t about women, it’s always about men who didn’t get picked by attractive, childfree women who suffer the magical belief that men are the star of their home, worshipped by a woman who sacrifices her entire identity to boost his ego. If men don’t want to date women with children, avoid them. Screen them out on OLD. Hundreds of thousands of divorced fathers over thirty who are happy to date those women, and plenty of moral men who take the role of father figure seriously. The revenge fantasi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:28 AM
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Nope. Just proves there are money and fame hungry women just as bad as he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:00 AM
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Daddy issues Daddy’s money Psychopathic ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:33 AM
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It’s not a problem for most people, who don’t frame every human interaction with “What’s in it for me”. The emotional reward of self-sacrifice. A roof over your head. Family, friends, and coworkers who are happy when you enter a room. Mutual respect. Favorable attention from the opposite sex. The list goes on, but sociopaths need not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:42 PM
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Rage bait is designed for engagement, to funnel money to the creators. Doesn’t have to be a pill to make money from gullible people who are easily angered.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:20 PM
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I don’t feed grifters rage bait revenue streams. Not watching rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:37 PM
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Also, that's why I mentioned that she indoctrinates her friends, because even if it's like "Phew, dodged a bullet," she's making more people like her Oh, you mean exactly like you and OP are indoctrinating other men to rebel against the use of the phrase “the bare minimum”? Are we doing a little influencing of our red and black pill peers here, hmm? Little peer pressure? Mmmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:06 PM
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I’m going to need an example, because small kindness and small favors aren’t being taken advantage of. Cooperation isn’t being taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 10:04 PM
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Do you believe that “not getting something in return” is being taken advantage of?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:51 PM
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The opposite is true. If a parent, a sibling, a friend, or teacher asks for a small favor, and he says “What do I get out of it?” The list of benefits to living in harmony with a communal species in no particular order: Participation in a loving household, cooperative workspace, and society. The love and respect of peers and family. Belonging to a group. At some point terps need to ask themselves what is more important: being liked and having friends, or having an endless tantrum about “fairness…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:45 PM
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Twofer! You both get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:32 PM
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There is no “morally right and fair” in mutual attraction. If a man doesn’t want to date a woman who possesses traits both masculine and feminine, he isn’t required to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:31 PM
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It’s the bare minimum for healthy people with any respect for others and a sense of community. Someone who refuses to exhibit basic manners and small kindness unless he gets something in return is an antisocial jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:29 PM
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Women will commit Hari Kari before being forced to have sex with men who disgust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:36 AM
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Try r/ ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:16 PM
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so yes women should be putting more effort If she wanted to, she would. She likely has other, more enthusiastic and appealing options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:17 PM
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How many men are willing to "compromise" and marry and have sex with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:54 PM
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Threaten women more and see how that works out for men. Maybe this sort of thing wouldn’t happen if both sexes would interact and compromise with each other instead of starting verbal gender wars. There is no compromise over sexual attraction. She's either sexually attracted and enjoys sex with him, or forced to allow the degrading and dehumanizing use of her body as a fleshlight for the duration of her natural life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:39 PM
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They also need to realize that many of their privileges in a democratic society are due to the good will of men voting to also support them. That's disgusting. So women are supposed to offer their bodies to men who do not excite them and cannot gratify them, just because men could kill them or enslave them if they wanted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:33 PM
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Ageism has nothing whatsoever to do with physical and emotional attraction. No one has to defend a disinterest in someone they aren’t attracted to and have nothing in common with. so any argument condemning older men for pursuing younger adult women is generalized misandry (ageist misandry, specifically), and I can't support either misogynist or misandrist viewpoints. Women grow up, as toddlers, with nasty, uncomfortable attention from old men. Their mothers and fathers warn them to keep covered…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:20 PM
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Men who claim they require sexual attraction do not love it when women say the same. They recoil in horror like a salted slug, and instantly revert to Puritanical ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:11 PM
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Filling in each others blanks is goals. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:08 PM
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You forget that the men who made it to medical school/PhD programs spent their formative years and most of their twenties focused on studies and missed a social life. Those men are happy with a woman who is self sufficient, fun in bed, and who is willing to take care of all the boring minutia of running a home. It’s not like they have any idea how to suddenly create a social circle and have the time to find a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:06 PM
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Baldness isn’t a problem for women who fell in love with him when he was young and had a full head of hair. We all age. The problem is the red pill narrative which promises men that women will line up to beg for older men’s attention when he’s in his thirties or forties and making more money What is common in men who are in their thirties and forties? Baldness. Hard to make an initial impression on younger women if he’s bald. Moral of the story? Red pill is shit. Go out and date now, not when me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:17 PM
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If he never expects sex nor pressures her, and she is equally asexual, that would be a perfect union. Kinda doubt those two people could somehow find one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:13 PM
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Women should realize (and most do) that the vast majority of men cannot become as ripped as Henry Cavill did in Superman without EXTREME dieting and exercising, to the point of being unhealthy. Women don’t suffer the conflict between fantasy and reality, women have a lifetime of examining their own flaws. Magnifying mirrors, makeup to hide acne, scars, and facial flaws, stretch marks, cellulite, shapewear, flattering fashion… women understand very well that movie stars aren’t in the cards for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:11 PM
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Men were viscerally attracted and had no problem using or forcing their wives to have sex with zero interest in her satisfaction. The vast majority of women who married for financial security led dismal, diminished lives with husbands who felt entitled to degrading and using their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:07 PM
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If you wrote a book about your experiences, whether biographical or a collection of short stories/inspired fiction , I’d buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:57 PM
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Physical attraction isn’t shallow for any typically developing people who expect a sex life for the duration of their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:56 PM
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What were men doing during that time period? Let me guess, designing, building, and maintaining the infrastructure?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:18 AM
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Then there is no difference between a 30 year old naive, inexperienced and sheltered man with no dating or social experience and a Chad with 30-50 partners by aged 30, and no difference between a 20 year old inexperienced female classmate and an experienced 30 year old female professor who pretends she’s inexperienced, religious, and inexperienced preying on 20 year old naive freshmen. Right? A woman who has had 100 partners at 30 but lies about it and pretends to be a virgin is the same as a 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:17 AM
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I understand how sexual attraction works for women, and I also understand how women might settle for beta bux if they desire resources and conspicuous consumption more than good sex and good genetics for their children. It’s men who don’t understand the difference between women who are sexually attracted vs women who settle for a wealthy man who they can reject often.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:35 PM
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Why do men continue to pretend that indiscrimination is somehow moral? When it’s the opposite? Which men actually want women to be indiscriminate? Surely not the “nice guys” or “good men”, definitely not the men obsessed with dick sized, and there is zero chance that any man who utters “body count”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:27 PM
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Has it occurred to men that women have suffered hair triggers, men with a clumsy, inept porn education, and fuck upped fetishes and refuse to tolerate that after they gain some experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:10 PM
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Dude, sex workers are attracted to status. If men want to pay for sex and companionship, no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:57 PM
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Honestly have no idea why you feel the need to defend your hobbies and habits: do you and seek partners who share your things. Go nuts But weird and delusional 40+ old men who pursue young, healthy women need to adjust their expectations accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:48 PM
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Funny. I’m also a gardener who is renovating a house but I’m young enough to care very much about my physical health. Late twenties are the best time of a woman’s life, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:19 PM
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Women don’t respect cult members or ignorant conspiracy theories because women are more logical and rational 🤷‍♀️. Men can either adapt or stick to the women in their insular uneducated church.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:05 PM
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Are men truly surprised that women fought back against subjugation? Think long and hard about this one. Men claim that stay at home wives and mothers “have it easy”, but if three-six decades of 24/7 on call service were easy, why did almost every western woman run wide fucking open into the work force to gain independence from the tyrants?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:03 PM
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Are all men fair game for selective service and the draft at 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:00 PM
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Men who unilaterally decided that women are fair game at 12:01 am on their 18th birthday. But those men reassure me that selective service and the draft are fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:59 PM
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There is a difference between wanting sex and coercing or taking sex from naive young men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:07 PM
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Because he knows there are men who are gentically,sexually, and socially superior to him. The Hapsburgs didn’t dominate because they were better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:56 PM
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It's a joke for 80-90 year old men who wanted to keep women dependent, pregnant, and barefoot. Do you think men sacrifice their free time and social lives because they really enjoy calculus? Intelligent men do. And the other men who work hard? They have to if they want a domestic servant who produces and raises competent children. But working hard and seeking an education aren't required. Any idiot who inherited money or gambles well can pay an underwater basket weaver to pretend to like him whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:25 PM
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Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:22 PM
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Men just want to keep women beneath them; because they want women more than they want anything and they inherited a sense of dominion. And they sure don’t like it when they are called out for being illogical and susceptible to conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:15 PM
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"underwater basket weaving" Dude are you 90? This phrase is propaganda from the 1950s. Why are the elderly participating in a dating sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:57 PM
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Why aren't women worried about it? Be thorough, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:45 PM
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Comparatively, dude. If I'm fifteen+ years younger, I'm in another realm altogether. I wish men would stop pretending they had anything other than nefarious goals to dominate and control young women they hope are inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:39 PM
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Yikes. I do not agree. Some 18 year olds might have come from good homes with a solid education and sense of self, but not all. Maybe not even most. I do not believe that all 18 year olds are mentally, emotionally, and physically mature enough to handle military service or sex with an authority figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:37 PM
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The grifters who convince gullible young men that younger women sexually desire older men ought to be shamed in the public square.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:31 PM
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I'm surprised a stalker is this dedicated to alerts on his name. (Reminder to deliberately misspell famous names to avoid this sort of insincere and awkward fan worship.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:18 PM
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Do you believe that adult men who sign a contract for military service are required to complete that contract since they were adults when they signed it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:15 PM
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Oh this is an odd fetish, or agent's bot. Interesting post history, and fantastic use of Google alerts to farm mentions of Galecki's name. Congrats on the most insincere, inauthentic, and implausible algorithm possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:13 PM
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Every man who claims that the legal age of women is the age of accountability should support forcing men who join the military at the legal age of 17-18 to remain regardless of whatever mental, emotional, or physical hardship that very adult commitment presents. No honorable or dishonorable discharge for those men who fail to adapt or encounter horrors they are unprepared for. They are required to remain in service the duration of their contract because they are of legal age. That fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:03 PM
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Do you think Leonardo DiCaprio traumatizes the girls he dates? Dude we all clock those girls as fame-hungry beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:00 PM
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they shouldn't have the right to vote. They shouldn't be joining the military, either. 30-40% are discharged for failure to adapt. Should those men be forced to serve regardless, since they are legal adults? Say it. Say those 18-20 year old men should be forced to serve or jailed if they fail to complete the contract they may have signed at 17 or 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:59 PM
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Define adults in your region.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:56 PM
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Dude I don't want to date or have sex with a man who has creaky knees, declining test, can't keep up with me on a short morning run, has to take pills for sex, is threatened by my age appropriate friends and activities, or starts any conversation with "kids today don't know good music/authors/movies/comedy/activities". Very few women outside of sex workers/gold diggers are willing to sacrifice their happiness and love lives for a man who overcompensates, condescends, and is at the same time, pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:55 PM
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Everyone wins if the genders legitimately find one another more attractive. Absolutely no. The children of those unions lose, either/both to bad genetics or a shaky upbringing by parents who don't love or respect one another and are more likely to divorce and cause massive stress in a child's life. Let me remind you again how expensive gametes are for women. A woman produces around 300 potentially viable eggs in a lifetime, presuming she's healthy for the duration of her fertile window. Pregnanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:50 PM
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You did not defend always leaning towards forcing women to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:37 PM
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What are the complaints from women about social media? Women aren't interested in dating strangers they have nothing in common with, so the connections made via friends and mutuals are beneficial to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:34 PM
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No woman is going to remain in a country with a "policy" to program their brains to ignore instincts and desire. The very idea suggests that women are the problem and can and should be manipulated or coerced to ignore millions of years of evolution as well as the upbringing and influence on their lives during their formative years. It also reinforces the idea of women as auxiliaries instead of fully realized human beings. Reinforces the idea that women are accessories to men rather than equally …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:32 PM
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what you wrote, can you rephrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:27 PM
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If he possesses the ability to think critically and the knowledge and drive to triple check any questionable claims: no problem. If he's prone to conspiracy/magical thinking or makes noises in favor of anti-intellectualism, no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:09 PM
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The argument that "Women are flighty and prone to social and peer pressure, we can simply re-program them since they are so easily influenced" is extreme, and deserves an equal and opposite pushback. Let me ask you something. When did the beautiful at any size movement start? 2003. Anna Nicole Smith was a women's size Large during her Playboy era, at 5'7 and 160 (reported) pounds. Ashley Graham was 200 pounds on the cover of Sports Illustrated 10 years ago. And nothing has changed. Men still com…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:07 PM
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All men who are intellectually, morally, and emotional equal, loyal, pacifist, and sexually attractive and sexually enthusiastic step to the front, please, so women can fight over you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:58 PM
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The problem is that there is no profit in expose, since the red/black pills aren't that popular or populus. Parents definitely need a shake up if they aren't facilitating a social life for their children and allowing them to steep in festering pools of grift, but the general population is unconcerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:56 PM
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You've been bringing this up for years. Nothing stopping you from creating the opposite of ragebait. Create an AI of an unattractive, short, thin man and mock up a following by attractive women. Surely some content creator is up to the task. Barring that, the unattractive stars of Friends, Seinfeld, and The Big Bang Theory never achieved fandom. (Tried to pick famous and popular men from the past three decades). At no point in the skyrocketing trajectory of fame did the arguable wealthy and famo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:53 PM
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How many ugly actors and musicians have been hanging on girls' walls since the fifties? How many women are infatuated with Ed Sheeran instead of Harry Styles? How many high school and college students chase the most unattractive men in their class?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:47 PM
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If he's born unattractive, he might be limited to women who are also born unattractive. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:45 PM
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If he has a great personality, he has options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:45 PM
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Did you just claim you are inundated with messages from both women you find attractive and women you find unattractive? Kind of telling on yourself here. If I can ignore dick pics and block those men, you can ignore and block women who don't suit you. But if you are getting matched with overweight women, your body fat percentage doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:41 PM
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He isn't settling if he is unattractive or unpleasant. He might wish he could pull a more appealing woman, but his league is what he can pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:39 PM
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Can't be a bottleneck if women are also reproducing less or not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:38 PM
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Social media is designed to keep people in contact with one another. I use it almost exclusively to make real life plans with friends and mutuals. Nothing stopping lonely men from using it the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:37 PM
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Yeah, no. You’ve seen what happens when every single “good man” ™️ is told that mutual sexual attraction is also important to women. They recoil in pearl clutching horror at the idea that women prefer a man they can enjoy sex with, and lash out with all the insults and euphemisms for whore they can vomit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:41 PM
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He also pays for sex, wears heels, makeup, and appears to be diapered, bankrupted several companies, committed fraud dozens of times, stole state secrets, is the laughing stock among world leaders, sold positions in congress to complete lunatics, is on the cusp of purposeful forcing a recession, made fun of POWs, and played varsity tennis after dodging the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:33 PM
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It’s because they finally understand that there are no hacks or cheat codes to dating and sex, and they wasted years of their lives getting fleeced by rage baiting grifters who profited from their disenfranchisement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:29 PM
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Is it extreme to track a woman’s hormonal cycle?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:47 PM
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Good boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:40 PM
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Any cold approachers in this thread? If you see an attractive lone woman in the woods hiking on a trail, are you going to try to stop her and try to get validation or a date, or let her pass? And what if two men are hiking behind her? Are you still going to stop her and try to get her attention or pick her up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:37 PM
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It’s clearly understood that the comparison to a lone man in the woods to a bear in the woods is the likelihood one of them will ruin her day. Even you know which one that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:35 PM
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Sure. But the lone man who comes for her when she is also alone is the problem, and the source of the complaint. Men love to find a woman out alone with no one around, and many of those men are wildcards likely to react badly if she ignores or rejects them because she’s busy doing her own thing. Do any men here actually understand the metaphor at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:30 PM
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Utter lack of empathy for others. I’ve never jumped out of a plane, but I feel sorry for people who realized too late that it’s terrifying. Never eaten live oysters, but I feel bad for people who contracted vibrosis. Never been pregnant, but I feel sorry for any woman who suffered a miscarriage or traumatic birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:29 PM
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Are you pretending women are safe from men? In a sub packed wall to wall with men who claim that women are in grave danger from men, from their partners, from players, from men at clubs, from men at parties, and from attractive men? Have You ever given women unsolicited advice on how to keep themselves safe from… men? Because every single terper makes a habit of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:24 PM
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Nothing stopping you from reading those subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:21 PM
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Horseshit. Neither spouse has the right to expect the one sided use of their partner’s body.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:17 PM
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And they are in many places which are populated by… you guessed it… men. The metaphor is about how men behave when they are certain no other man is around to stop them. Try and keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:05 PM
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That’s hilarious. Men have missed the point of the metaphor since the beginning. I explained it above.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:05 PM
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Women are complaining about being treated as opportunities, complaining about the hassle and harassment. Women are noting that a man regards a lone woman as an opportunity to wet his dick rather than a person doing her own thing. Women are complaining that men do not corner them if another man is nearby. Women are complaining about predatory behavior. Men have been using it to complain they are angry at the idea that women don’t want their attention under these circumstances. Men are humiliated …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:04 PM
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Nah. I can also skip over to the human cesspools that are dead bedrooms and the marriage subs and watch men violently implode due to rejection then confess they require scheduled duty sex from the wives who get absolutely nothing out of it other than shame and disgust. “Muh love language is physical touch”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:00 PM
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Huh? Absolutely not. Men do not provide protection, and this discussion is entirely limited to how men behave when no one else is around to stop them. Women tried to communicate that they are not always open to being hassled or picked up. Women tried to communicate that a man’s desire to date or have sex is not more important than whatever a woman is doing, and that an unaccompanied woman is not an invitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:50 PM
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I’m sorry, did you just compare a fear of sexual harassment and sexual assault to dating politics? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:37 PM
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The Dove Project .org
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:25 PM
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Let’s be real right now. When men tell women to avoid having fun, they mean “you should pick me instead”.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:24 PM
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The food is plentiful and abundant for bears during spring and summer months. But there are always thirsty, angry men around and they despise women who are happy doing their own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:16 PM
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Since when do bears have a vested interest in getting women’s attention and validation or having sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:08 PM
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I encounter women on my running trail at a rate of 1:3. Black bears are common, especially this time of the year when mother bears have kicked the overgrown yearlings out and are out teaching their cubs how to forage. I also see lone women running on city sidewalks while wearing pepper spray. Very few bears in the city. Women who go out alone are often afraid of men and all women are aware that women get blamed for any and every sexual harassment and assault by men. Don’t know why men collective…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:07 PM
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Sexual attraction is vital for typically developing people. But if wealthy, unattractive men want to pay for sex, idc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:55 PM
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So… men want traditional women to fulfill a traditional role, while enjoying the freedom of breaking down and crying and getting pampered like a child, which is something only progressive women are likely to offer. Looks like trad men have quite the dilemma, hmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:15 PM
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How can women get excited for Chad’s tall, fit, muscular frame and also want some rich old schlub at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 08:13 PM
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I dunno. Why did men line up to date and marry Gypsy Rose Blanchard after she abandoned the boyfriend who killed her mother to protect her? No female felons exit jail without a husband or boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 07:11 PM
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Don’t know who you are trying to convince with this very personal rant, but women aren’t going to beg you to reconsider. Enjoy your solitude and doing as you please. Many women have also learned that solitude is better than living with a miserable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 05:32 PM
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Men not only lie to get dates and relationships, they also nakedly admit it here. Stop the gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:57 PM
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They’d rather live in relative poverty than live with an immoral man who regards them as objects. As they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:50 PM
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No man has ever paid my bills, and relationships and marriages have ended over cult membership.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:37 PM
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Men do that on and off daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:34 PM
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A friend hates morning sex with her husband and has spent years claiming she starts work before 7 like I do, just so she can escape before her husband wakes up with his usual morning erection. He apparently prefers morning sex over anything else. She goes and gets a coffee, often hangs out with me in the morning before opening her office at 8:30. If men are fine with women avoiding their hormonal peaks and valleys, I suppose women have to accept it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:33 PM
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Sweet summer child, the Faithful Word Baptist Church posted a video sermon saying “You are not allowed to refuse to get physical with your spouse”. Bear in mind nearly every man here admits they do not care about a woman’s values or her socio-political views, and women know men misrepresent who they are to get a date. The chances that a man who holds similar OT and conservative political views will lie to get close to a woman is high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:54 PM
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Dating down is always an option, but a man’s dating down is usually applying reason and accountability. If the women he finds sexually attractive don’t find him sexually attractive, he’s reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:45 PM
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Nope. This is a short thread, and witch-hunting is forbidden. Read the comments; you’ll find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:37 PM
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Women don’t want to serve as a flesh-light or risk a disease with men who don’t excite or satisfy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:36 PM
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Username begins with A. This thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:30 PM
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Male sexuality is so ubiquitous and ingrained that the male gaze determined how every single women in media and advertising looks for the first 100 years of widespread publication. Male sexuality is the norm, while female sexuality continues to be regarded as a pathology; a moral failure. The reason men misrepresent their loneliness as something neutered because of the implication that women are obligated to sacrifice their own bodies and lives so that men will be “happy” and stop threatening so…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:26 PM
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Readers just want the truth, because if men were honest about what they are actually “lonely” for, they might be taken more seriously. Men claim to be lonely when they really mean they desire a romantic relationship and sex. ETA: disregard the above. A man just made a new thread describing male loneliness honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:49 PM
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One being that people tell romantically lonely men to get a big social network as if that replaces a romantic relationship. ??No. It's to give a person more opportunities to meet new people, to make connections with the types of people who suit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:21 PM
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Dude you constantly use the phrase “low quality” when speaking of your fellow human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:42 PM
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Fisherian runaway. My nipples are hard. A man who is familiar with biology?? Here??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:39 PM
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If it’s an equal exchange, beta bux isn’t abuse. No different than passport bros. If he has to use money to attract and keep her, he married a sex worker who isn’t attracted to him. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 08:15 PM
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England is your peoples “motherland”, if your lineage is… homogenous. Is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 08:13 PM
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Not a goddamn thing stopping your people from returning to their motherland other than compete and willful ignorance of a second language and their ancestral culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:54 PM
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She sure did choose to be with that man who is more than happy to obligate her service because money. As opposed to mutual love and respect. Can you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:53 PM
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Red pilled men who never stop promoting making money and waiting to date until they can dangle conspicuous consumption as a lure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:16 PM
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Personality was never enough for sex or a commitment, but it can make or break both a first impression and a long term connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:15 PM
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Fanboy (no offense, I’m a season ticket holder for a couple things) who is obsessed with athletes is in no position to argue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:14 PM
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Ahem. He pays those women. He pays porn stars for sex. Women are disgusted by him. He has to payyyyy them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:11 PM
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Really? I have not. They might grow to hate them later, but my friends are pretty well adjusted. Though mid twenties to mid thirties women are a little more together than teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:59 PM
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It’s so big right now it’s an easy example. Also… I’ve encountered him twice and that’s the least of his ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:58 PM
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If he’s paying her to stay because she isn’t attracted, his money is the leverage he holds over her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:57 PM
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Is it? Cru Mahoney on TikTok is conventionally good looking though probably nearing forty. And women fucking hate him because of his attitude and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:44 PM
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Those men use the only leverage they have over women to retain them, so they probably perversely enjoy that abuse of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:42 PM
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How he acts is the opener. If that bombs, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:41 PM
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Small talk: organic, neutral pleasantries to pass the time in a crowd. Pick up attempt: artificially manufactured phony ass requests for help from a particular and isolated lone women with something so obviously inane he can find it in three seconds on his phone. Hope this helps! (No man needs to follow a woman to the tampon aisle to ask where she bought her boots because his sister would love them for her birthday. Nor does that man need to ask a woman about the bus schedule, her favorite drink…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:00 PM
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I don’t feel like dealing with you today.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:48 PM
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Sustained immigration over decades will have an effect on the people there even if it's only on a social level. Holy shit I never pegged you as a Native American. You certainly have a point there. What is your tribe affiliation? Cherokee? Micmac? Navajo? Yucci? Choctaw? Chickasaw? Creek? Aztec? Seminole? Maya? Tarahumara? Please, u/RapaxIII, tell us more. I had no idea your peoples had been displaced by colonizers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:42 PM
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This is true. But it’s also true that most women don’t find superficial appearance to be sufficient to pursue a man. Physical attraction is essential for most typically developing women, but a stranger’s looks alone aren’t reason enough to desire a conversation or a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:40 PM
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Nope. I assume the man who initiates small talk in the presence of others is just friendly and chatty. Because he doesn’t square up, use some horseshit made up excuse to talk at her, doesn’t cut off an exit, or follow her to a space with no one around. Wild that men still maintain the lie that women can’t tell the difference between organic small and entitlement to female validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:23 PM
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It’s the same “importance” as men. If she prefers staring into space over validating some rando: her agenda is equally important to his.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 04:12 PM
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Since it involves potentially encroaching on another's time and peace? Unless a man has clear signals that she's open to a chat, he's gambling on her reaction. Nearly all women are polite as possible regardless of their level of interest because of safety concerns, but women are well aware that men seeking validation expect a warm welcome regardless of how busy or interested they are. Did you watch Cru Mahoney's videos? If you don't understand why his absurd overreaction to a woman simply going …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:39 PM
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Proverbs 21:19 OT men choosing the bear woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:06 PM
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So why haven’t I joined the pill warriors Because a Witness can simply ask to be moved (or will be moved whether he likes it or not) anywhere in the world with a Kingdom Hall and matched with a woman whom the elders decide needs to be bred.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:55 PM
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In the US, strangers talk to one another when opportunities arise and convenience permits. That's normal. Organic and neutral small talk: normal. Obvious pick up attempts and PUA techniques are as obvious as any smarmy sales technique. Some women are okay with it, some women are repelled by it. Do that at your own risk, but there is no way to mass-groom women into dating strangers. See TikTok: CruMahoney's ridiculously obnoxious video on 4/25, and watch thousands of men and women drag him for tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:46 PM
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Most men aren’t tall, most men don’t want to be dwarfed by a tall runner. And I don’t care. People like what they like, and that’s fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 10:13 PM
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I’m not consider universally hot. I am fine with compliments on the fly or compliments from people who don’t want something from me, but I don’t need them. Nor do I do anything to seek them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:32 PM
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I’m not speculating? Men post stop simping it here several times per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:28 PM
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I don’t want compliments and neither do the rage bait content creators.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:01 PM
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They aren’t dating these men, they are using these men as tools to make money on social media. Rage bait creators, both male and female, aren’t here to help anyone except themselves. Grift serves the same purpose, whether it’s frames as “self help”, “dating advice”, or rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:18 PM
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Every man who demands a dick worshipping, kowtowing virgin with a cleaning and service fetish is an old, bald, paunchy loner who is mean as hell. Men are never told to look in the mirror and adjust their expectations accordingly. Do you have anything to say to those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:15 PM
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Women aren’t. They create rage bait so they make money from engagement. Every share, like, comment, and view puts money in their pockets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:10 PM
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They admit this daily with “men stop simping” and “women’s overinflated egos” posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:08 PM
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Are revenge fantasies/ gotcha posts really worth an OP? It isn’t like the women who claim to be single by choice are going to give up and beg poor, ugly men to date them. Just say you resent women for having choices and roll on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:11 PM
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I think men who hate makeup yet invite women who wear makeup on a date are stupid. I’m incompatible gamers or anime guys, you know what I do? I don’t flirt with them or ask them out. Imagine whining incessantly about a centuries old hobby which you aren't required to participate in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:24 PM
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Tell the men who whine that women are nice and supportive of their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:22 PM
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Where do you think the memes of guys inviting women to a pool on the first date or waking up to one and not recognizing her come from? If men stopped competing with one another, they might be more supportive friends, too. But men will throw one another into the fire for one woman’s brief attention. Insult one another in front of women, put one another down, tell embarrassing stories. No man is going to make supportive noises in his friends’ direction is his friends spend all their time talking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:24 PM
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Where do you think the memes Face blindness, which is common in folks with ASD. If he (or she) feels angry when a woman changes her hairstyle or hair color, or when she adds or subtracts makeup or tattoos, he’s probably stuggling with face blindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:14 PM
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There is no such thing as being inherently less attractive because attraction is not an inherent property of anything. Science has known that symmetry in facial features is inherently more attractive for decades as it reflects optimal health. If women had historically been allowed to choose their partners instead of being bought and sold or taken by force, we’d all be more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:45 AM
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We are aware that men desperately desire female validation and will work hard to get it and are on the constant lookout for it. Which is why they project their feelings and attitudes onto women. Male validation is so common and frequently unwanted that it isn’t all that important, especially for the women who have no trouble dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:29 PM
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I wear no or minimal makeup to work or to run errands or play coed sports. I will wear it when I go out with girlfriends or go shopping with girlfriends to women’s stores. Occasionally on dates. Absolutely do not do it for the approval or attention of random men. If I have to run to hardware or home improvement stores, the parts department at Toyota: I dress like a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:19 PM
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There are never ending complaints about women’s fashion choices from men. Men hate Nose rings Tattoos High waisted pants Bell bottoms Short hair Fake eyelashes Fake nails Long nails Pointy nails Running shoes Funky colored hair Novelty nails Fake tan Pale skin Bangs The list goes on and on. Yet women still wear all those styles and all the things men claim to hate. So maybe it’s not about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:17 PM
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I’m sure some older women might resent it, we aren’t too far past a time when offices and businesses required makeup as part of a polished look. Fashion is play, since we were toddlers. Most people are aware of that. But there are obviously some men who believe that women’s every move is designed to distract and bamboozle men. I’m certain a lot of misogynists believe that women also deliberately develop curves and pretty faces just to fuck with men’s combobulation. Those men are hilariously wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:01 PM
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Sometimes, when I’m trying something new or bored. Like millions of users on r / makeupaddiction. That sub immediately bans any men who make sexual or flirty comments, it’s just for hobbyists. Why? Aren’t women allowed to have fashion as a hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:52 PM
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Why waste all that time and effort putting on makeup and taking it off every single day if you don't really gain much from it? Because it’s fun. It’s play. Why do men waste all that time and effort playing video games which keep them from experiencing life with real people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:47 PM
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Then I might really begin to question if you even see them as human since you've set them apart in a worldview that's pretty devoid of anything decent. Unwanted sexual attention is problematic for most women. He could be deeply wounded or it's just dirt off his shoulder. OP hasn’t responded, you have. This is how you are receiving the information that a man’s sexual arousal towards a stranger ranges from awkward to deeply unpleasant. I find it hard to believe this is news to a man. Since you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:20 PM
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The issue you have nicely confirms the first thing I wrote: “The problem isn’t what men want, the problem is how they project their desires onto others. Not limited to sex.” Are you truly concerned about “misanthropy” when I’ve said nothing unpleasant about women, children, or the elderly? Or are men just deeply wounded by rejection, because their feelings or sexual attraction and sexual arousal feel so Big to them that the idea their attention is not only unwanted, but sometimes repulsive morta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:58 PM
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I don’t buy this as an excuse to pretend women are a separate species with no sexual identity or sexual desires or their own. Men have always been aware that the sex toy market is large and widespread, and most of the toys have been for women. Showerheads, too. Literotica and assorted varieties of smut, Hollywood and music idols…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:35 PM
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I find it hard to believe you cannot tell the difference between aggressive and unwanted sexual attention from “unattractive man merely existing in the world who she hasn’t even noticed”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:18 PM
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If I politely ask a stranger on a date, Do you believe this is the topic of this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:17 PM
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You must be new to Reddit. A lot of Reddit men are convinced and angry if women don’t respond favorably to unwanted sexual attention. And most red/black pilled men express anger that women aren’t interested in their “sexuality”, which is a new and weird complaint around here. Still not sure why those men believe women are required to care about the sexuality of a man they aren’t interested in, regardless, it comes up often. Like in this OP. Men want women to believe their sexuality causes them t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:08 PM
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How is a man who objectifies women accusing those women of dehumanizing them? Do you understand the irony of your accusation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:57 PM
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Because men here seem to lack the ability to feel disgust when they are aroused by a stranger, it’s apparently necessary to spell it out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:56 PM
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Men have an advantage most women will never know. If a woman wants to have sex with him, she probably genuinely likes him, admires him, and respects him. Men will literally lie about respect and admiration and have sex with women they actively hate, just to get a chance to use her body. Are we even now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:08 PM
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Men incorrectly limit “objectification to the sexual, when all othering of women is objectifying. “Women only want the attention of good looking men!” Well, duh, women are humans, just like men. Of course they prefer attractive people. “Women don’t have a sex drive, otherwise they’d seek sex from willing strangers”. Obviously women have a sex drive, they are Homo sapiens, same as men, not some alien other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:26 AM
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“no, he just wants to get close to her in a way that doesn't intuitively make sense to women and to which they can't relate to"? Obviously women are aware of what men would like to use their bodies for, it’s learned in early childhood. “Sit like a lady, don’t sit in Uncle Bob’s lap, go put a bra on, no pajamas in front of guests”. You can badly want a relationship or sex, more intensely than many single women do, more so for its own sake, fueled by a more testosterone-based sex drive. The proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 10:23 AM
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Well yeah, women know this. Men do, too. They’d find it weird if a used car salesmen or religious proselytizer showed up at their workplace and got in their face, demanding an audience and validation. The difference is that men feel entitled to women’s attention. That’s why men don’t care how jarring and unwelcome their approach is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:15 PM
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Women find male sexuality disgusting and are trying to turn men into asexual worker drones. 99% of posts by red and black pilled men express disgust towards female sexuality. What do those men expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:12 PM
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Don't approach women at X place, she is there to do Y thing Literally the only thing women are asking on social media is not to create a hostage situation. Is the there to earn a paycheck? Do not interfere. If you must, leave a number on paper and she will contact you. Literally do not follow her or waylay her in a space where she is vulnerable and alone. That’s it. Nothing stopping men from grinning, saying hello, handing over contact information, and going away until she decides to contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:45 PM
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Is the man she isn’t romantically or sexually attracted to a better choice? Who believes women are better off with platonic roommates?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:34 PM
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And because they regard flirting and teasing as bullying, and popular men as rivals. There may or may not be a testosterone deficit there, but I suspect that’s one component which impacts red/black pilled men’s feelings about men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:28 PM
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What are state colleges suppose to do about willful anti intellectuals? They are getting exactly what they want: dumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:02 PM
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Those men aren't typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:14 PM
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BECAUSE THEY SOLD OUT TO ALL THE BIG FELLAS ALREADY BUT THEY ARE ONLINE WITH FREE SHIPPING OVER $50 Newsflash: a lot of men are huge. Shop accordindly. Either get to the store the minute they put out next seasons clothing or buy online and quit whining? Do women have to hold men's hands through everything, including buying a goddamn shirt?? But sure, men designed and constructed the Golden Gate Bridge and the Seven Wonders of the World. And can't figure out how to shop for a fucking twenty dolla…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:56 PM
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BECAUSE COLLEGES ARE FOR PROFIT AND THEY NEED STUDENTS TO PAY FOR SALARIES AND EXPENSES AND MEN AREN'T GOING BECAUSE THEY SUBSCRIBE TO CONSPIRACIES AND ANTI INTELLECTUALISM
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:53 PM
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Jfc Target carries men's sizes up to 5XL. If you didn't find any, it's because they fucking sold out. Look online. Do men have any desire whatsoever for credibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:51 PM
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Why no big & tall in Kohl's or Target or everywhere plus size clothes are? What??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:49 PM
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Because men are wildly susceptible to groupthink and glommed onto anti-intellectualism as though there is some massive benefit to being stupid and uneducated
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:48 PM
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Target and Walmart are filled with plus sized clothing, and Target's walls are papered with plus sized male models.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:47 PM
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Women are more: influenced by their mood Contradicts this: Men don't have this kind of problem and are even more likely to take risks than women. Men take more risks with their health and safety than women by far. Men are more likely to abuse substances, more likely to have sex with questionable partners and prostitutes, more likely to break the law, more likely to act on fetishes and myriad and sundry sexual urges, more likely to react to frustration with physical anger, more likely to destroy …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:46 PM
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Manners ≠ sex acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:31 PM
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Two things. If he’s pretending to be a platonic friend while surreptitiously cutting her off from the man/men she’s actually attracted to (the orbiter/girlfriendzoner), what he actually desires doesn’t matter. He’s already untrustworthy. And the other: what if she simply doesn’t find shyness or a lack of overt sexuality attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:16 PM
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It isn’t extremely rare, this is red/black pill rhetoric spread by men without a mixed friend group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:09 PM
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Or you could learn something about men’s bodies on one simple search.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:02 PM
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If not abandoning ones family is an inconvenience to someone, that someone should do themselves a favor and not marry and start a family then. When he abandons his domestic and parental responsibilities, he abandons the family. Men who remain the person they promised to be, fathers who remain engaged in their children’s lives and participate fully in their upbringing do not wind up divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:01 PM
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I’m referring to typically developing men with normal testosterone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:51 PM
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Are women required to soften the world for men? Or do men just expect women to fill that role for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:12 PM
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How convenient for men who can’t replace a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:36 PM
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It’s not bad for women, and it’s a boon for women who don’t care what men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:36 PM
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Is masculine bad now? You guys are so trendy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:30 PM
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The double standard is wanting women to behave indiscriminately and settle for subpar men whilst also hating women who behave indiscriminately. Do men want women to be selective, or inclusive? Pick a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:29 PM
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No big deal, women leave a shitty husband anyway. If women don’t want to replace a man or can’t find an appealing replacement, they are fine being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:28 PM
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Attempt at justifying double standards: failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:18 PM
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A man with an erection is not the same man after he’s ejaculated. A man who just lost a game is not the same man who just won a game. Men’s hormones fluctuate on a 24 hour cycle and react to the most innocuous stimuli which have nothing to do with them. He passes a woman with large breasts on the street: gets aggressively sexual with a coworker. Gets ignored by the coworker he has a crush on: gets aggressive with his male friend. Men’s emotional brain depends on their test levels, and they can f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:15 PM
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Women don't want to stay in a miserable contract with a miserable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:57 PM
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And none of that actually factors into the argument of social dating expectations of men being the higher earner, the one who is supposed to spend on the woman and many other social expectations still remaining the same despite similar expectations being broken for women If those men expect sexually inexperienced trad women, of course. despite similar expectations being broken for women Independent working women aren't seeking trad men, and trad men aren't seeking those women. Stop making up pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:51 PM
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but if you want to be remotely successful with women you pretty much have to for a lot of them Yep, that's a choice many men are not making. Who cares? Men aren't required to adhere to traditional archetypes or required to appeal to trad women. They are free to do as they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:50 PM
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Haven't you seen the retro active jealousy wailing from men here who feel they have the right to use a woman's body? If she tried and hated an act like anal or facials with a previous boyfriend, red pilled men feel they have a right to force her to perform the same acts for them, no matter how painful or humiliating. That's ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:46 PM
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Then men should fix things before they are hopelessly broken, but they don't. See: r/ dead bedrooms. See the men in this thread who hate their ex wives and want an end to no fault divorce. It's not love. It's entitlement and a sense of ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:44 PM
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Women can replace complacent, neglectful and abusive men with a more loving and attentive man easily. Men cannot, and that's why men stay. Not because of some noble, beatific feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:42 PM
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Men want it to last regardless of her unhappiness because men know it's difficult to find another woman willing to settle for the man she left for good reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:40 PM
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Men have been deciding to forgo military service for decades. Playing video games instead of sports and performing physical labor. Remaining single and living at home (in the west) instead of securing a teenaged bride in church. Taking jobs in the service industry instead of hard labor. I dunno what stereotypes men here believe they are "required" by some mythical entity to retain, but men are not performing as their ancient archetypes, and that's fine. Do you. But don't complain if sexually ine…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:28 PM
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Women get to decide which men are attractive and possess appealing traits, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:25 PM
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It’s about how we foster a happier society for everyone Is this a joke? Because you describe "a happier society for" men, at the expense of women's freedom and autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:24 PM
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Men here pretend that sexual experience somehow devalues and degrades women, so just use your own bias. That work for you? If having sex with more than one man somehow decreases a woman's worth, then you have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:22 PM
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If you are in an accident and suffer a loss of blood and you choose donated blood from a healthy person over a person addicted to needle drugs, are you a hypocrite? Or making prudent decisions with your life and your body?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:21 PM
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Men are experiencing the birth pains of women's emancipation after two thousand+ years of subjugating women. And it's not limited to "the sins of your fathers". Most women around the world are still indentured servants or literal chattel / slaves, and damn near all of our grandmothers were subjugated. So pardon women for failing to accommodate modern men, who, given the chance, merrily admit they would love to subjugate women again and force them into sexual and domestic servitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:10 PM
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You don’t think that “something went wrong” when women had no choice and no free will? When human beings are considered chattel and sold like property to men they did not pick, subjected to a lifetime of backbreaking 24/7 domestic service, and raped for decades by the men who paid for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:56 AM
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TikTok of the day: bananamoon20. Men in the comments applying for political asylum and reparations because two women are sick of unwanted sexual attention and avoid them. Men literally having violent, hate filled meltdowns because two women feel it’s necessary to drop whatever they are doing at work to avoid a man’s unwanted attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:47 AM
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It’s not a problem for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:14 AM
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If it’s mutual, she’ll act on it. 99% of it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:08 AM
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Listen to me. If she isn’t interested, a man volunteering to deposit sperm in her regardless of her interest or pleasure isn’t a compliment. It’s equivalent to a man saying “I’d piss on you”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:58 AM
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enough, but they also get guys who absolutely thirst for them just because they exist. If she isn’t attracted or interested, nah. The toothless, homeless guy at the gas station who compliments her ass is equal to the weird high school friend who sends unsolicited dick pics and professes a high school crush. There is nothing whatsoever flattering or ego boosting about being treated as a cum receptacle, since the same men also use a dirty sock or Kleenex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:31 AM
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Because sexual attention isn’t the measure or worth of a person??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:28 AM
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I wish. I’m acquainted with a few men who feel they are owed a beautiful, youthful companion. The sense of entitlement and superiority is rampant among certain folk. With any luck, they will retain that sense of arrogance for the duration of their lives, and it will protect them from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:33 PM
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Someone should correct that so certain men don’t waste their 30s and 40s alone whilst awaiting a fair maiden to show up with lingerie, a broom, and a whisk to fulfill all their fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:19 PM
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Ah, then I agree with you. FTR, most of the pro-prostitution men here actually believe the women are enjoying it. When pinned down, a few admit they are aware she’s acting, and don’t care, they are willing to suspend disbelief and pretend they are giving her the dicking of her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:18 PM
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A prostitute doesn’t want a man for his body. She wants his money. Nm, I misread the comment I replied to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:12 PM
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If those men “deserved” an attractive young woman, they would have qualified when they were young. Some people just need to accept that some of us are ordinary-to-ugly and will never get a 19 year old virgin porn star lookalike. Time to grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:07 PM
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“Most”. It’s the first word.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:20 PM
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What percentage of men over forty have divorced?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:19 PM
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Men start losing their hair before thirty and test drops off around 35. Most don’t protect their skin from the elements, and show their age at the same rate as women. Most young women date 2-3 years older, they don’t want old men. The older guys will be stuck with the older women, as always. If they missed the boat and don’t date in high school and college, that’s too bad, but there are no reparations for arrested development.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:21 PM
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You’ll see more young male prostitution to fill the need for older women etc in the future. We know what trends will occur. No we won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:19 PM
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You consider that a long term relationship? I’ve read “arrangement” often enough that I remember your username and backstory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:17 PM
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How are you surviving in the pay-for-companionship relationship you talk about often? Or have you moved on to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:14 PM
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You mean taking pornography away from men, right? Since men have been gobbling up hard and soft core porn since long before social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:08 PM
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Men provide almost all the labour and the vast majority of resources in society. But, because it's provided to you indirectly and you don't have to provide anything in return, or interact directly with the men, in most cases, you think it doesn't exist. Which men are volunteering their labor? All the men I know work for a paycheck. Once again, men and women are not the same. Men don't have to be attractive. That's not their value. Their value is what I've alluded to above. If men expect affectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:57 PM
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If the second round picks marry, they get her money and labor. Stop pretending men do women a huge favor by marrying them. Men double women’s labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:10 PM
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Are you reading my words? It’s a part of attraction. Obviously sexual attraction matters, too. No idea why men keep pretending this is news.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:53 PM
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Women have eyes, man. We can see when a man is objectively attractive or is our type. But that isn’t love meaningless without the rapport and the connection. they do matter yes, but actual attraction (visceral, lustful, emotional, feelings) has way more to do with other factors that rapport and common interests. Common interests, common experiences, and common values are part of rapport. Do you know what that word means?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:39 PM
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We believe that the reward is legal security and access to our resources and labor. Well I dunno who “we” is, but women provide resources and lifelong labor, and women shouldn’t give it to men who feel grossly entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:32 PM
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Men claim to be “in love” with women they barely know but are eager to have sex with. They claim to be “in love” with women they have nothing in common with: no shared values, no common interests or experiences, opposing sociopolitical beliefs. Most men care how a woman looks, not who she is. That isn’t love by any definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:26 PM
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It’s time for terpers to craft a new revenge fantasy. Sharing Chad is starting to sound like a good idea. “Lindsay, you can have the Chad tonight. I had a rough day at work and I just want a quiet bath then bed. Send him back when you are done.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:24 PM
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Those men aren’t a good match for the women they are interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:20 PM
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Do men actually believe they “reward” women with their mere presence in a household? If it’s not mutual, no woman will bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:15 PM
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Those women were right. Hopefully that man grew up and mellowed out with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:09 PM
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Most men feel a sense of dominion over women. They constantly command women to smile and accommodate all approaches now matter how inconvenient, order women to settle down and have kids, attempt to control women’s sexuality by shaming it, expect wives to spend their lives serving men’s domestic and sexual needs. It’s not surprising at all to hear men speak of women as a shared commodity. Men simply can’t conceive of women serving any purpose other than a means to their end; accessories.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:55 PM
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Men aren’t going to be more sexually attractive when they get older. They can certainly experience love and affection, but “holding the line” is just letting life pass you by.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:51 PM
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No, because I’m attracted to men. Men don’t care about women’s interests because they don’t actually care about women as people. Men care how she looks, she can kick puppies for fun and men would still date her. Had an old boss swear he was in love with me and kept asking me to come to his LAN parties. I have less interest in gaming than I have in preserving animal pelts, but he was relentless. Wrote love notes, cried when I quit. Still tries to contact me on social media. Men are completely nut…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:47 PM
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Wrong. Common interests and experiences are part of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:34 PM
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Women prefer men they share common interests with, that isn’t a mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:44 AM
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A vanishingly small number of men are willing and able to provide “male labor and resources” and the only men who protect women are paid to do so. And and even smaller number of men are attractive enough to demand or deserve pretty women to leer at.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:58 AM
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Men are silver foxes, women are hags As someone trapped working for wealthy middle aged and older men four days per week, they are also hags. But they believe themselves to be James Bond sexy. It’s puzzling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:15 AM
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Always an excuse huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:27 AM
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Because men never stop ranking and comparing women to every woman they see at work and on the street and in porn. But hat happens if a woman compares her man to a previous boyfriend? Ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:17 AM
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Men judge a woman's looks and put them in to two categories: would fuck or wouldn't fuck. Not one of four billion women on the planet asked men. Those men should shut the fuck up or post their full body nudes. Let's see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:14 PM
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Ha ha the privilege. Who the fuck informed men they deserve a never ending parade of beautiful young women in media? And can we see photos of the men who feel they deserve nothing but beauty and youth? (Ladies, check out #he’s so mid on social media. Take a long look at the men who feel entitled to nothing but youth and beauty. And join me in feeling horror and pity for their daughters since most are fat middle aged bald men)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:47 PM
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Horseshit. Men assign women the moral higher ground but clutch pearls and cry fat tears when women respond in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:43 PM
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Except they are lying. All my life I’ve had a baby face and looked several years younger than my age, but now at almost thirty I definitely look 27-30. 18-20 year old boys don’t stop. They don’t actually care if women are within 15 +/- years of their age, they just lash out here to show off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:42 PM
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Meanwhile, dudes will literally be taking a picture dead-staring into a mirror with one light bulb in the bathroom burnt out, or an off-angle shadowed face with sunglasses on. I'm not saying that this is all there is to it, but getting above the floor for good, flattering pictures is something I find most men struggle mightily with. Might be why the dreaded gym-mirror and fish-holding pics are so common. Never seen a man in this sub admit he understands the OK Cupid survey of 30 college women wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:34 PM
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The number of men who demand equal responses whether they are attractive or unattractive, whether they are a first round pick vs a late pick in their 30s, who demand equality of sex acts even if she tried one and hated it, vs the men who preach “it’s bad when women have casual sex or more than a couple partners but it’s fine when men do it” is absurd. Fucking sick of red pill/conservative men’s rules for thee but not for me. Red pill is full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:25 PM
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Real men of integrity lead with decency but also with honesty and that sometimes include uncomfortable truths. Yeah no. Those men judge women based on their own unrealistic and stupidly inflated expectations of higher morality. “Women should do X because they aren’t sexual likes us healthy men”. The Good Man/Nice Guy rhetoric is based on othering women, putting them on a pedestal and holding them to higher standards of sexuality because it makes those fellas uncomfortable. It’s horseshit. It’s a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:25 PM
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If she has shown no interest whatsoever, he gets what he gets. Men do not get to dictate how women respond to a pick up attempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:33 PM
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A 12 year old boy asks a 12 year old girl to be his girlfriend. A 35 year old man asks a 12 year old girl to be his girlfriend. By your metric, that’s fine, right? Since it’s the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:49 AM
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I'm straight and I even like getting hit on by gay men Men aren’t in any physical danger when rejecting. As you said, men get pissed off because they feel entitled to the same response that women give attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:12 AM
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No chase face
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:11 AM
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I go dancing a couple times a month. I’ve never taken any interactions there seriously, but I’m betting on leave them wanting more. I mean excuse yourself or disappear before the song or conversation is over, then go do something else and see if they follow. The guy who keeps trying in that environment just comes across as smarmy or desperate, hoping to get someone, anyone to go home with. So split before that awkward lingering happens. Smile, tap your watch or indicate you want a drink, walk of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:42 AM
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Yeah because one is consensual and the other is fucking predatory
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:48 AM
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I have the same experience with men who demonize women for lacking interest in men they aren’t attracted to. “Women like attention from attractive men, but they dislike being hit on by unattractive men!! Women discriminate against ugly men!”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:55 PM
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Compare the rates and history of male teachers to female teachers who rape kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:48 PM
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Every single man here and most men on this planet have access to a free and dizzying array of porn. From nipples in sweatshirts to the most unhealthy and disgusting fetish. Don’t make excuses for men leering at and creeping on women in real life. There is absolutely no reason any man with an IQ above 60 to bother women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:41 PM
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It is easy to communicate. But most people don’t want to provide written instructions, they prefer intuitive, attentive lovers. Because people who demand written instruction will do the same thing over and over regardless of mood and tempo and expect demand the same results. While they, themselves, also prefer variety. Imagine marrying a woman who refused to deviate from exactly the same style, pressure, tempo, and angle of jerking you off, forever. Might as well be married to a robot, right? No…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:52 PM
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The fuck? Of course women know what they like and don’t like. Very few men actually know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:49 PM
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Yeah that means men are more attracted to the chiseled version.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:02 PM
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Okay thank you, and hang on. I'll be back at the office in an hour and I'm done for the day. And stop pretending I don't look at sources. I'm the loudest voice here about stats and facts and you know this. Feel free to attack me on valid complaints, but you are way out of line on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:45 PM
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You know what? You said this better than I ever could. Even though I'm fully aware, and have always been aware since I was a very young child, that men foist their sexual feelings onto others and it isn't my fault, what I don't get is their lack of accountability and agency. The entire purpose of blaming women for their erections is to excuse said erections. But it's so very weak. I can't imagine feeling arousal and blaming someone else for it. I can't imagine being so small, so weak, so defense…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:42 PM
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Not really all that different. I never knew life without social media, dealt with the whole Covid weirdness, and found reddit because some disgusting asshole posted my (clothed) pictures on porn sub. I doubt my experience was all that different from my sociocultural peer who is ten years younger. But it's vastly different from people who subscribe to religious indoctrination or vulnerability to grift and conspiracy, even if they are my own age. At any rate, please keep this up and stick around. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:33 PM
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Thank you for sharing this, you are a good writer. But I bet you are massively underestimating yourself and your accomplishments. Listen, do you feel sexy? I mean, do you actually desire sex often, or would you prefer a more romantic type of relationship? Because if sex is important to you, you gotta learn how to flirt. Otherwise women will regard you as a friend or brother figure. There are too many men in the world who are at ease with flirting and making moves, so if you don't make it clear, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:29 PM
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I'm sorry about that. Women do have a history of getting away with all kinds of sexual violations, because of the same cultural and religious rhetoric that informed men. FTR, some of us are stopping that. I am at a bar once per week for an athletic club I belong to, and I like to dance so occasionally go to rowdier clubs on the weekend. When I see drunk women acting crudely towards men or sexually assaulting men, I record it, find the manager or bouncer and show them, and call them out loudly. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:19 PM
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I'm reading the first link now, but I'm using my phone because I'm in the field for work. Where is the quote so I can find it quickly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:13 PM
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I'm 29, not from your parents' generation. But every generation thinks they invented sex, and their parents only had sex to create children. And every generation is wrong. People have always been fucking. My parents are old. They had kids from 18 to 45, and they and their peers didn't suffer gender based socialization issues, either. Sexual mores are a matter of both culture and education, but not age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:12 PM
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Hey, do you realize there are zero sources for the claim about Mary Koss? I would never defend the idea that men cannot be raped, obviously they can, but this quote comes from MRAs, and there isn't a single source for it. Anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:01 PM
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This is one of the more creative and open hearted OPs in a long time, so it's definitely possible to learn and outgrow childish ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:55 PM
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But not all of this repression is self imposed Past the age of accountability? Sure it is. Men do this to themselves, and proudly spread it. do you believe that men are always encouraged and taught to be sexual, especially in healthy ways? What's with the "always"? There are no absolutes. The world is multi-cultural, and individual adults are entirely responsible for their attitudes and behaviors, regardless of whatever indoctrination they experienced as children. If an adult cannot navigate his…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:53 PM
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You are stating deliberately inflammatory rhetoric designed to shame women for failing to find unattractive men attractive. Of fucking course women prefer the wanted romantic and sexual attention of attractive people over unwanted attention from unattractive people. Everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:50 PM
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You know what? Your parents, your relatives, your neighbors, and all the ancestors suffer a forced marriage and resigned sex with partners they probably aren't attracted to and can't relate to, since they didn't choose them. In their minds, they might be trying to downplay the importance of sex, since they assume you cannot get what you want. Same things happens in Abrahamic purity culture; despite the reputation for debauchery, a large portion of the US belongs to insular, conservative religiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:42 PM
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Ugly guy approaching me? He must be a degenerate that only thinks about sex and sees me as nothing more than flesh and bones for him to mingle with. I'm calling HR. Hot guy approaching me? I've suddenly realized how much I needed and wanted romance in my life, I can't wait for this beautiful experience. I'll never figure out what twisted math men use to claim that women are unfair because they prefer wanted attention to unwanted attention. Old, married pastor approaching me? He must be a degener…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:08 PM
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Cool. When will men stop claiming that popular men are "the worst of us" because of projection? When will men drowning under self-imposed sexual repression stop calling themselves "Good Men" when they clearly despise women who they believe cause them sexual frustration?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:03 PM
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I don't think people have an issue with male sexuality in itself, its just how men externalize their sexuality onto all the women around them even when we've done nothing but exist. Nailed it. Men believe that women's bodies are something women do at men. As if women grow breasts and hips just to distract and torment them. Like we do it on purpose instead of have no choice whatsoever. They refuse all accountability for their leering and their frustration, and none hesitate to project it onto lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:58 PM
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I was really insecure about my sexuality, and was afraid that me even having a crush on a girl was harassment. Like I was unworthy of having romantic or sexual feelings, because it's an affront to polite society. Like I was inconveniencing people at best, and attacking them at worst. And this leads to further issues. Good natured men, who are put off by their own desire, try to remain passive and neutral, because they believe it's the right thing to do; and then they get mad when "asshole" men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 01:47 PM
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If someone is bothered by banter and teasing, it just means they take themselves very seriously and aren’t a good fit for someone who is relaxed and fun. It’s not an indictment of character. It just means incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:20 AM
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Why? 8+ billion people in the world. If you don’t mesh and have conversational synergy, just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:19 AM
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If he isn’t confident, why is he trying to meet women? Women test men’s frame to see if they’re being authentic. … women want to determine if the man they are interested in shares any common values or experiences with them. It isn’t a test. It’s conversation. So the woman negs him (let’s say she teases him about how long it took to pick out his clothes or style his hair). Flirting. For him to maintain frame (that he is a confident person) he would need to brush off the neg, neg her back, and/or …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:18 AM
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On the rare occasion I run into someone who is inauthentic and obviously trying something, I just walk away. Who is doing this, and who falls for it? They are emotionally and socially vulnerable people who are paranoid that they everyone else is playing a game instead of just acting with spontaneity and genuine openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:13 AM
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Can’t imagine being sexually excited, much less gratified if a partner isn’t aroused and clearly reaching orgasm. But stand by, men will march into the next thread screeching about holding the most important jobs, designing and building the infrastructure, making the world go round, but are too incompetent to bring a woman to orgasm. (gestures to the Golden Gate Bridge, the pyramids, the Hadron collider)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:18 PM
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Of course women judge men who aren’t selfish in bed, why wouldn’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 05:02 PM
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Speaking of shame, why aren’t men ashamed of having sex on women who aren’t enjoying it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:51 PM
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Full time jobs end at 5pm. Your kids didn’t have homework or need attention and care after five? Dinner cooked, served, eaten, and cleaned up before five? Dogs walked and kids exercised before five? Did they ever see fireflies, enjoy sunlight in winter after school, or enjoy outdoor activities after the air cools in summer? No walks or bike rides after dinner, no baths; no bedtime stories or homework?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:21 PM
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⬆️⬇️ The thread you are posting in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:10 PM
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Of course they aren’t a better person because vacuum. But the person who represented themselves accurately and honestly is indisputably the better person. Keeping the house at 'guests are coming' clean 24/7 Spouse is far more important than a guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:09 PM
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I’ll rephrase. What kind of monster uses a woman he cares about for his sole sexual gratification when he can do it himself? Since, you know, he expects her to lie there and masturbate herself during or after he coldly uses her body like a plastic doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:45 PM
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It's just personal info, like if a guy told his friends that his girl gave awful head. It would just be embarrassing and put his partner down for no reason with people that he probably interacts with in a healthy relationship. If he's so selfish and inept that he continues to use her body for his sole pleasure, she needs to discuss the humiliation and trauma with her friends. He can prevent that by ensuring she's having a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:37 PM
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If he's not reaching orgasm after using her body without interest in her pleasure, who cares what he wants? If a woman jumps on a man, reaches orgasm after 60 seconds, then immediatly rolls over and falls asleep, she's a selfish jerk, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:35 PM
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He's pleased by the use of her body... how could he possibly have a complaint about pleasing her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:32 PM
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Men can do it themselves, too, they don't need to use her body to masturbate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:31 PM
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Right? I have a garage with an engine hoist. When friends ask to borrow my garage for a motor swap or to replace headgasket, they know I'm not going to be breaking all the nuts free, climbing into the engine compartment, getting greasy, busting my knuckles while they stand by. I mean, I'm enthusiastic about helping ensure they get the job done, but I'm not doing it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:28 PM
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I think it's perfectly reasonable to have a higher standard of cleanliness for when guests are coming over than for everyday life. In the beginning stage of your relationship, you're a guest. Your wife is worth less than a guest?? The mother or future mother of your children deserves lazy, slovenly behavior, but your guests are led to believe you are a far better person than you are? Send me her contact information, I'll help her start the divorce proceedings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:16 PM
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If they know they have a quick trigger, why are they penetrating before she's fully excited and primed? Selfish? Hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:15 PM
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It isn't something a woman would do if she wants the man to keep trying harder. If he's bumbled it that badly that she just wants to get it over with, why would she put herself through more torture? Also not all women can orgasm, either because they haven't found a way to or it isn't possible for them. Then why are men using their bodies as cum receptacles? but talking shit to their friends about their current partner is still trashy imo. Is he hoping to fuck their friends? How is commiserating …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:13 PM
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If other men can, so can he. But he has to want to and actually feel excitement about her excitement and desire a mutually gratifying experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:04 PM
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Enjoy! Go nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:03 PM
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Her response is the role, same as his.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:59 PM
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while women's is indirectly involved. Too many men hit the right spots for men to believe this, come on. The clitoris wraps around the vaginal canal. If he doesn't feel good, it's because he didn't stoke the fire first. I fail to see how it's unfair unless the man is asking what the woman wants and if things feel good and the woman refuses to answer the man's questions. Because the men who demand a schematic refuse to engage her brain long beforehand with flirting and promises he can follow thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:58 PM
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Why wouldn't they put down a self-centered partner who uses her and isn't concerned with her gratification? Hopefully the others introduce her to a more caring and engaged lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:50 PM
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No "respectable" woman would allow a selfish man to use her body for his sole gratification. but it pretty much just comes across as trashy. No one is trashier than a man who uses a woman's body like a sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:25 PM
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For me, it's hormone and activity driven, but I agree. If I have to do it myself or provide a schematic and written instructions in triplicate, why would I want an inept partner? Women can find an intuitive and engaged man who is excited by women's enthusiasm and pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:23 PM
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If your partner doesn’t seem to be enjoying it, you should be stopping and communicating with your partner. Red pilled men don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:20 PM
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It feels unfair — how can it be the man’s responsibility to achieve something when he often has no clear idea if his partner is even enjoying it? Jfc why does he want sex with someone he doesn't know if she's enjoying it? That is sociopathic. Why is this dynamic so common, and why have we accepted it as normal? The fragile male ego, unchanged for eons and men's clear and consistent confession they don't actually care if she's enjoying it, so long as she pretends to enjoy it long enough for his o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:19 PM
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“Wives are the ones who most often file for divorce at 66 percent on average. That figure has soared to nearly 75 percent in some years.” Men: “We never saw it coming!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:16 AM
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So is the marriage rate. “As of 2021, both marriage rates AND divorce rates in the US are decreasing – with the marriage rate dropping from 8.2 per 1,ooo people in 2000 to 6.1 and the divorce rate from 4.0 in 2000 to 2.7.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:13 AM
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I need an example. All mothers undergo a change in attitude and priorities once they are tasked with helping an utterly dependent person survive and thrive. It’s a massive undertaking and pregnancy and motherhood rewire and reprogram brains. But if it’s detrimental to everyone in the house, seek help. If you must, get video of abusive behavior. Could she be suffering PPD? Or some other unmanaged mental health issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:02 AM
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If children and/or health or your behavior was not a contributing factor, I’m sorry you were mislead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:57 AM
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I mean I don’t understand your complaint (blah blah). I can’t figure out how she’s competing over the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:38 AM
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I don’t understand your example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:34 AM
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I didn’t read that, who said that? Neither partner is responsible for remaining with a fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:33 AM
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Within reason, absolutely. Aging and the addition of children, illness, or changes in workload obviously affect frequency and quality for both, but either partner who pretends to be enthusiastic sexually for the sake of locking down a partner is guilty of a bait n switch. But the elephant in the room men refuse to acknowledge is that a woman will lose attraction and resent a man who becomes childlike and dependent post marriage. Few if any women choose to marry a fifteen year old child, or a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:33 AM
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There isn’t anything remarkable about a man working the same job he worked when single, before they shared a home. His job doesn’t get any harder because he chooses to invite a wife and children into his life. Same job. Same work. His wife and children are positive additions to his life, not burdens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 06:56 AM
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because of course the both of you were trying to make a good impression. No. One of us was honest, the other willfully deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:53 AM
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I expect him to maintain the same levels of cleanliness, good hygiene, health, and competence he showed me when we were dating. That’s a reasonable expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:05 AM
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He should If he did, she’d feel as though they are equally invested and she’d have more for herself and for him. , but 1) this is why some women justify doing 100% because it gives them a reason to avoid their spouse Well yeah, if he’s being a selfish, lazy brat instead of doing his share of raising the children. I’d avoid him, too, because I’d resent he’ll out of while losing respect and attraction due to his incompetence. and 2) when he does take over, it's likely so she can go do something el…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:02 AM
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I did not make the claim that unattractive men are morally corrupt. Unwanted attention is unwanted attention regardless of his appearance. I said men have no reasonable expectation of same treatment, since the two men in your example are not the same. She might find attention from both the attractive and the unattractive man aggravating, you have no idea what a woman’s level of interest is until she communicates that. You get what you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:59 AM
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Is he not also devoting time to the care and raising of his infant?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:41 AM
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Using the baby as an excuse for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:37 AM
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I don’t get why the solution isn’t “We haven’t had a date in while, I should probably pull more weight around here and see if we can carve out some time for each other” instead of pouting like a spoiled toddler and allowing jealousy of his own helpless infants fester. I don’t think there is any saving a man jealous of a damn dog or cat, though. That’s just pathetic. His mother must have been so relieved when he finally left home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:36 AM
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How can she withhold when there isn’t enough time and energy to go around? If a grown man requires more attention than infants and toddlers, is he grown? Is he a man? And why in the hell would he have children if he can’t handle the redistribution of time and energy? Men are brats.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:18 AM
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I’d be inconsolable if I married a man who wasn’t equally devoted to the care and raising of our child. I doubt counseling would reverse the bad feeling I’d get from that. But I already had a boyfriend admit he was jealous of my pets. I have a farm with a dozen assorted animals, not a fancy little purse dog which dresses up for holidays and shares my pillow. The last one complained I was spending too much time on my temp foster siblings who escaped horrific conditions and stayed with me until th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:16 AM
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and this a a big one attractive ppl are usually awarded more positive leeway in how there behaviours are perceived, as you see in the meme above the two men said the same words but got completely different reactions, basically behaviour that seen as acceptable for the top men is a war crime when commited by the bottom man. Leave it to men to believe that women have no rights to sexual preferences, and they are therefore owed the same response as the man she’s actually interested in. A 12 year ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 03:10 AM
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The halo effect is real much of the time because attractive people have 100 times more opportunities to socialize and receive positive feedback. If your life is more pleasant and you have a lot of friends and social activities, you are better at making friends and handling social activities. Red/black pill men don’t understand the above because they cling to the narrative that attractive people are evil and ugly people are Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:37 AM
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Did she hide her exacting behavior and rigid expectations for cleanliness when you were dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:34 AM
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Leverage? Jesus may this “love” never find me. That’s petty behavior coming from someone who professes love.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:33 AM
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Sunk cost fallacy, fear of putting kids through the hardship of living in two homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:31 AM
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I don’t have kids, but I’ve heard from peers and read online that men deeply resent the time and attention wives give to the kids and withhold cooperation and household responsibilities in the pettiest act of revenge. Men have confirmed it here, with several admitting they are jealous of the attention wives give to their own infants and children. Dead bedrooms and the marriage subs are full of men admitting they withdraw cooperation and affection until they receive the sexual attention they feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:30 AM
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It is their individual responsibility to set boundaries and make expectations clear. It is also their individual responsibility to represent themselves and their habits honestly. Men don’t do that. Men fake being hygienic and organized, they fake competence and a desire for order and cleanliness in order to secure a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:26 AM
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Joking, right? When a man is trying to impress a new woman, his place is spotless, he cooks, and nothing is in disrepair. His hygiene is impeccable, nails short, beard shaved or trimmed, smells nice. He doesn’t drop the phony Most Responsible and Attractive Man Ever act until he locks her down with a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:23 AM
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Why bother making claims you know are easily disproven? Your claim that “women aren’t expected to work on their attractiveness” is insanity. The expectation that women will make themselves as attractive to men as possible is drilled into women from birth. Jfc men still stomp around demanding that women smile for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:05 AM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:37 PM
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If she isn’t compatible with him, he isn’t good. If they have no rapport, no common ground, he isn’t good. If they don’t share some common experiences and common goals, he isn’t good. If she isn’t physically attracted, he isn’t good. He may be an overall nice person, but he isn’t a good match without the list above, or at least a combo of most of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:37 PM
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Women don’t have the same dating troubles as men, and b) where the hell have you been. The women’s support and fashion subs are filled with women asking for advice on hair cuts, hair color, weight lifting and weight loss plateaus… help with nerves about sex and pregnancy. No one in the world pretends to know more than men who don’t even bother to examine someone else’s experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:34 PM
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I’m under the impression two people are sharing your keyboard as you contradict yourself in a hilarious fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:51 PM
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What are you even doing here. Pew research has conducted research that confirms that there is a surplus of women seeking commitment. If your entire worldview is shaped off of a survey, idk what to tell you. Pew research has conducted research that confirms that there is a surplus of women seeking commitment. Surveys are notorious for being filled with blatant lies from participants (coping mechanism)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:35 PM
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I pointed out the difference in “emotionally intelligent and expressive men” and men who rage at women, take zero accountability for their predicament and threaten violent social uprising. The former shows emotional intelligence, the second does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:02 PM
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This is bad faith. There is a difference in seeking support and advice and blaming women for “the dating market/the 80/20 rule/a lack of enthusiasm towards cold approached/insert the dozens of ways per day men blame women here”. “I’m disappointed I can’t find someone to date” ≠ “Women suck because they won’t let me stick my dick in them”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:00 PM
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Men can’t handle rejection. Each and every time a woman in this sub disagrees with a man he devolves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:06 PM
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What? Demanding attention from others has always put the attention seeker at an advantage. Doesn’t matter if it’s men, religious proselytisers, or used care salesman. Demand someone’s time and attention, you don’t get to decide how the interaction goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:39 PM
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When women are cold approached, they just try to navigate the rejection in a way which preserves his dignity and her safety. Once he’s out of sight, he’s out of mind. Not a second thought. The man might walk away licking his wounds and angry all day because he projects hi embarrassment and anger. He’s mad, he’s feels foolish, disappointed in himself for failing, and now he’s fantasizing all kinds of scenarios in which he looks like a bumbling fool. But that is all inside his head.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:36 PM
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The entire beauty and fashion industries are built on women’s improvement. Women grow up knowing they have to emulate prettier, curvier, more graceful women. Men are told to improve after they fail at getting something they want. Car salesmen can’t make a sale? He needs to improve. Women don’t respond to a man’s desire for a date? He either improves or lowers his expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:18 PM
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I don’t doubt there are some problematic women out there, but we’re talking about men approaching. But the gender doesn’t matter. Asking for validating/romantic/sexual attention means you get what you get. The person asking is not in a position to dictate how the other person feels about it or dictate their response.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:14 PM
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I haven’t seen anyone claim victim status beyond the massive projection in the OP, who imagines the very worst in women who have the same right to reject on appearance as he does to approach. Why does her motivation matter at all? Why ruminate and rage about it? No means no. There doesn’t have to be a reason or a motive. Maybe he was rude, maybe she was annoyed, maybe she’s in a relationship, maybe he’s ugly. It doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:23 PM
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Men vastly overestimate women’s interest in them, studies which prove this abound. Attention from men a woman would never date isn’t worth anything, even if she finds their friendship valuable. The idea that unwanted romantic and sexual attention from men somehow blows up women’s ego is ridiculous, when most women do everything they can to cautiously avoid or reject it. How else to explain this… the homeless man at the gas station who said “Nice mouth, I’d like to fuck it” = the coworker she pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:21 PM
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The cognitive dissonance in this post is stunning. ⬇️ And basic bitch which will make drama Stop reframing things to put yourself into position of victim, it's bad for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:10 PM
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As usual, men vastly overestimate the value of sexual and romantic attention from men they have no interest in. Might want to check that ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:21 PM
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No sons, but brothers, and male friends. But I don’t need male relatives to understand and empathize with their struggles. Most of the men in my life are stuck working with or for older men or conservatives with the Boomer attitude, and those men are still advancing the narrative that boys ought to be circumcised, that war and violence and physical fights “make men out of little boys”, that the only emotion men should show is anger. Those people come from a different world, in which their cost o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:19 PM
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a means of showing off her desirability when she makes men frozen and awestruck Wow that’s more projection than IMAX. I wasn’t aware that women paying attention to men was a problem now, I’ve read nothing but the opposite here. Nothing stop you from taking the advice you give women when they complain about sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:47 AM
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Is this the part when men complain that the MeToo movement oppressed them by discouraging sexual harassment at school and in the workplace and preventing them from playing grabass at work? Parents have a duty to teach manners and decorum in the public square.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:39 AM
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How the hell do you see us as belittling that which we most desire? Absurd framing. Desiring sex from women ≠ admiring women. But keep trying to redefine objectification, you’re funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:35 AM
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It’s neurotic to make up reasons to get angry at women a man is interrupting because he wants attention. Do men realize that they approach women based on their looks? So is perfectly reasonable for women to reject men based on their looks. It doesn’t matter why a woman or man rejects an approach. No one has to defend a lack of interest. Stop making up reasons to hate the thing you want the most. You’re only hurting yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:29 AM
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No one is required to deal with unwanted romantic or sexual attention. But I doubt very much the women who flirt expect you to perform or return it. Most of the time flirting is just goofing around, just small talk intended to be pleasant. If you just walk away, I bet they will get the hint and stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:03 AM
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OP didn’t describe the approaches, either. I’ve seen both kinds; one works and ends pleasantly, the other is forced and awkward. I can easily see men assuming the annoyance is due to his looks, but it’s more likely due to his approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:00 AM
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So no loneliness issue, men don’t want attention from attractive women, but if they are old or unattractive it’s alright. Got it. Sounds like a healthy mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:49 AM
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I only feel insulted when hot women do it. That fucking entitlement pisses me off, like they're so used to these piece of shit simps just bending over backwards for them they think I'm a fucking chump or a clown just like them. Flirting isn’t a contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:37 AM
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Sure they aren’t simply annoyed by being cornered by an awkward stranger with who won’t leave without a response? Maybe it’s the approach. Attractive people are just better at flirting and better with rejection. Unattractive man with a serious face and heavy expectations of an audience approaches at an awkward moment: Hello there, do you have a boyfriend, can I have your number Attractive man walks up grinning: What are you drinking? I’m not going to buy you one, I just think it looks good. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:35 AM
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When it’s the Scouts, the Catholic Church, boys only private schools, sexual assaults during sports and frat hazing… it’s time for men to stand up for another and stop protecting the rapists and stop defending the spaces this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:26 AM
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What are you talking about? Who told you women rooted out criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:15 AM
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No, he has better sex with a woman who doesn’t have to draw him a map. Jesus after the kissing comment just stop. But please confess you hate kissing in your profile. Give women a chance to pass before the weirdness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:53 AM
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Inept men who are “bad kissers” are not entitled to women who can match up with better lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:36 AM
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You replied to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:32 AM
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Plenty of good fucks are bad kissers Ha ha no.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:31 AM
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Option A: the man who pays attention to her responses and proceeds accordingly because he’s excited by her excitement Option B: the man has no idea what is going on and demands written intrusions in triplicate which he will robotically follow regardless of the mood, the tempo, the passion. Wonder which one women prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:31 AM
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What? Almost no one goes straight to sex. A few minutes of kissing and making out inform women of how tuned in and compatible they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:28 AM
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They have good sex by selecting men who don’t need a schematic to figure out how to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:23 AM
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If she has to tell him what to do, he’s not intuitive. He’s inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:18 AM
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Men who don’t even protect their own? Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:53 AM
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“far less” explains it all. A woman produces around 300 potentially viable eggs in a lifetime, presuming she's healthy for the duration of her fertile window. Pregnancy, birth, and gestation are taxing-to-debilitating and the product is 18-26 years of round the clock care, concern, expense, and all at the expense of a mother's autonomy. A man produces a quadrillion sperm. 1,000,000,000,000,000 potential chances to impregnate…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:52 AM
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Women start getting unwanted, disgusting and disturbing attention from men when they are literal children and sure af aren’t seeking it. Red pill men need to stop projecting their pick me energy onto women. Unsolicited, unwanted male attention is a nuisance, not currency. Women aren’t needy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:51 AM
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Yeah because most men are unattractive and unpredictable and damn near all of them are capable of impregnating a woman. And some enjoy harming women. Have none of you guys ever wondered why the sex toy industry has always been almost exclusively for women? Hint: it’s because women can’t get beaten or pregnant by a toy, and the toy gets the job done.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:56 PM
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🤷‍♀️Most women have an experience with a connected, tuned-in, intuitive lover. Women, unlike men, aren’t interested in sex with robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:54 PM
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Men have fewer limiters. Figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:52 PM
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Sperm is abundant and low quality, and men have low risk when it comes to sex. What are the repercussions of casual for men? Zero pregnancy and a better reputation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:51 PM
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Let’s not forget what happens when stupid men use unregulated gear and don’t add in estrogen to temper it. If they skip estrogen after supplementing test, their erections decline and they get super duper moody, emotional, and their fertility tanks. Test by itself is not the sole factor behind libido. For the men who refuse to believe this, try it. Dose yourselves with testosterone and see how long it takes for you to lose interest in sex and your emotional periods to start. And quit guessing abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:49 PM
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Sperm is cheap and low quality, eggs are expensive and a lifetime investment. Women protect their safety from men who are sometimes excited about humiliating and hurting them. The brakes women put on their libido are by necessity. Factor that into your bad math. A woman produces around 300 potentially viable eggs in a lifetime, presuming she's healthy for the duration of her fertile window. Pregnancy, birth, and gestation are taxing-to-debilitating and the product is 18-26 years of round the clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:45 PM
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It’s called might makes right, and it’s a centuries old truism. Maybe you’ve heard of it. Bigger and stronger men oppress the weak. It’s their schtick, in every era.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:33 PM
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I don’t post sources anymore. This place is packed with male conspiracy theorists who discredit every news org and every citation. Wiki has citations. So does every search engine. “How many boy scouts were abused” “How many boy scouts claim abuse” “Boy Scout abuse scandal”. Pick your favorite source, even if it’s Fox Entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:32 PM
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Women support men who like women. Why would women support men who despise them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:09 PM
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The red pill literally advocates for men to help unsuccessful men get laid. Your mums gave you life, taught you basic life skills, loved you, and attended your needs until well past the age of independence. Ask your fathers where the fuck they ran off to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:05 PM
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Because the presence of women stops a lot of male on male pedo abuse. We don’t like it when you predators hurt our sons and brothers. Men prefer sweeping it under the rug and pretending it doesn’t happen. cough joe paterno cough Meanwhile, on neighboring threads, men vehemently defend dating the youngest women they can, because those women are sexually naive and sexually inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:59 PM
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Why are you speaking about men’s paid labor whilst ignoring women’s round the clock unpaid labor? No man would be here if his mummy didn’t gestate, birth, nurse, and raise him to adulthood while on call for 18-25 years of his helpless, dependent life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:38 PM
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I’m for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:32 PM
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Peculiar how many men want to return to that lawless, immoral era in which men and boys harmed little boys because no man wanted to address it and they pretended it wasn’t happening to 93,000 boys. Ninety-three thousand boys harmed while men stood around and did nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:03 PM
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Do you… not know what happened when the clubs was exclusive and segregated?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:02 PM
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Okay, so he stays home and doesn’t do anything social or fun with a mixed group of people. Then what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:28 PM
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Men here. They’ve been “blaming” women’s standards on Hollywood trends, and defend their shaky thesis because “women in former generations settled for short, weak men so long as they had money”. They literally think of women as neutered children, as though the women who settled for those ugly wealthy men had any alternative. Hell, men still pay other men to take a daughter off their hands in a large portion of the world. Young impoverished women in developing countries still settle for ugly, wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:22 PM
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Devotees of the red pill. “TRP-ers” Toxic masculinity. Men don’t support men. Sometimes female friends are better options for kind and inclusive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:10 PM
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Newsflash, fellas. Children who suffered sexual assault or coercion are not equal to thirty-forty year old male virgins simply because they experienced (criminal) sexual contact. Teenagers at and above the age of consent who were coerced by dates, authority figures, or plied with drugs and alcohol are also not as “experienced” as thirty year old virgin men. Naive students who were already preyed upon by teachers or professors are also not on the same level of experience as 30-40 year old virgin …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:04 PM
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He isn’t at a disadvantage. He has years of life experience and masculine authority and the intention of taking advantage of her life inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:58 PM
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Life experience > sexual experience. He still has years of life experience and authority over her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:56 PM
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I say all those things, it mostly falls flat because men rank women like cattle: the only thing they seem to care about is appearance and they never tire of complaining they hate women’s hobbies, interests, accomplishments, and careers. But they sure don’t like it when women address their appearance. It’s a weird blind spot for men, who throw whole tantrums if women bring up physical attraction, after they spend months talking about nothing other than women’s looks. If she’s prettier, she’s the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:55 PM
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I’m trying to figure out how to respond without saying the phrase which is a dog whistle to terpers because they purposefully misinterpret the meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:50 PM
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The choices you’ve made are no different than the choices that nearly every med student and PhD have pursued. “I was busy and focused on my studies” “I dunno. Just had no interest in casual sex and wasn’t motivated to deal with bars and dating apps”. Your life was your own, you don’t owe your past to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:45 PM
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Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:42 PM
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I agree with you. As a woman, I’m horrified by the implied solutions, but evidence abounds that men are determined to force women to submit. Both politically and socially. that literally every unwanted guy is just there because his standards are too high? Sometimes too high, but mostly just unrealistic. Grifters have a vested interest in fooling men into believing they use cheat codes and hacks to get women, and gullible men believe it. After they fail, they become increasingly disenfranchised a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:37 PM
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Just gonna make women angrier and less interested in dating. I visited a resort town last month during the first spring heat wave and saw dozens of Aqua Tofana tattoos. Obviously women aren’t interested in harming men, but they and collectively circling the wagons and taking steps to discourage harassment and abuse. Also saw my first female dominated beach area, surrounded with umbrellas and tents so that women could sunbathe without gawkers or photographers. I wanted to get in and there wasn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:32 PM
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Yeah I agree that’s a shitty phrase, but I haven’t seen a better descriptor for someone’s roughly equal peer. Maybe you can do that. Maybe you’re the man who can come up with an apt, non offensive word or phrase which references “people like yourself” without the implication someone is lesser. I’ve tried “sociocultural group”, “similar life experience/trajectory”, “similar values and habits”, but those don’t address the elephant in the room, which is sexuality and physical attraction. So how cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:25 PM
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Funny how that isn’t obvious to men. I’m really uncomfortable with their new narrative that women are somehow not actually attracted to masculine traits, but are covertly following media trends and can therefore be manipulated or brainwashed into finding unattractive men appealing. It’s sinister as fuck. What are they going to try? Subliminal messaging? Putting progesterone in tampons so that women respond to weaker, smaller, effeminate men because of our motherly tendencies? Throwing acid on at…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:18 PM
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If someone’s sexual identity develops from fantasy, they are solely responsible for developing a reasonable self-image before attempting to date well out of their league/culture/experience. Who could possibly fix that for them? Unless you prefer a verbal firing squad? “You’re too ugly and weird to date the outgoing cheerleader, Jeremy, find a bookish knitter who prefers staying at home”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:07 PM
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Does the older man lack life experience? No, no he doesn’t. Do men here openly admit they desire sexually inexperienced and naive women? Yes they do. But it's still the evil man's fault, huh. In the case of a man deliberately seeking sexual contact with a younger, sexually inexperienced person? Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:58 PM
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This is how it works for men who spend their lives using cheat codes and hacks to game. They buy into the red pill grift because they want the shortcut and are convinced they can hack their way into panties. I’m blaming their parents. Every lazy parent who just ignored their kid’s social and emotional development and left them locked in a dark room for the duration of their childhood is ultimately responsible for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:48 PM
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Hell yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:40 PM
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This is all the things the red pill massively fucks up. Men who aren’t naturally athletic and health conscious resent the gym as it symbolizes work they have to do to get noticed. And they’ll drop it anyway and get soft the minute they get a girlfriend. Skip the gym. Eat better food for sure, but go do fun stuff with like minded people and live.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:40 PM
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If I love him, I’m going to honor him and won’t care at all about his virginity. Falling in love with someone who appears to have a wildly differing cultural and social experience is the problem. I have never been in a space in my life in which I had interest in deeply religious people, or those who had a restrictive sexual identity. Not at 15, nor now at 29. I suspect that man would be happier dating within his cultural space.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:36 PM
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Not at all, but reason and logic still reign. Unattractive, undesirable people have no choice but to pair with same. They don’t “deserve” someone who is more attractive if he or she isn’t interested. This is where the conversation halts every single time. Men who haven’t dated or socialized much apparently train their brains and dicks to respond to beauty and can’t imagine finding someone who has also shared their life experience and values, all they talk about is “looks match”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:33 PM
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Gotta admire a diehard apologist for sticking to his beliefs. But you stopped reading before this comment, and it’s a short OP. “..an older man may not be the most experienced romantically” See it?? It’s right there ⬆️ Older desire younger women because of their inexperience and naïveté.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:26 PM
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Acknowledging that lookism (i.e. discriminating against unattractive people in non-dating contexts such as hiring or casual social interactions) is a form of bigotry and shaming it the way we shame racism, sexism etc. Unless you are ten, you know very well what happened with Marvel and DC reduced the curves and concealed nipples on female characters. You also know that men all over the west simultaneously menstruated the moment Lizzo was posted on a billboard advertising women’s athletic apparel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:23 PM
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Few are born rich, popular, and famous, most pursued their talent and skill to make it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:19 PM
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Have you read the thread you are participating in, starting with the OP? They literally confess to desiring younger women precisely because of their sexual naïveté.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:15 PM
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A lack of sexual experience doesn’t mean he lacks life experience, authority, wisdom, or the power to persuade a naive young person to do whatever he wants, even if that isn’t good for her. Men here have a blind spot because they feel deprived of sexual experience. But the same men would clearly recognize how unethical it is if they were 16-25 and being groomed by a much older and unattractive woman to perform sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:09 PM
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A few reasons. A woman can get away with cosplaying whatever gender they feel like, so long as she’s attractive. Displaying masculine behavior is acceptable for women, men displaying feminine behavior: not so much. Men’s far greater propensity towards fetishes/paraphilas is well documented, many of which look silly to others. And finally because men who suffer fetishes have a tendency to act out towards others without consent. Flashing, dick pics, ejaculating on public property, upskirting, phot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:06 PM
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Obviously, everyone is talking about older men, but you decided to create a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:52 PM
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I haven’t seen anyone here say that it’s fine for older women to date a younger guy. When older women are sex offenders, it’s men who claim they wish they had a teacher like that, it’s women who raise hell to save their sons and little brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:46 PM
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It’s appropriate to characterize the men who openly admit they desire younger women because they are naive and sexually inexperienced. Since when don’t men like being taken at their word? When men tell women who they are, women listen. The confessions are all over this thread, starting with the OP, and throughout and every exhausting thread with the same topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:43 PM
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I don’t think men here actually watched the movie. The writers uglified an attractive female character to humble her and force her to give the ugly man a chance. She saw her reflection after the curse and was horrified and embarrassed, knowing that no attractive man would date her. She had no choice but to rely on the ogre to assist her. It’s the ugly man’s fantasy: knock beautiful women down a few pegs and force them to ask ugly men for help and attention. Show her how it feels to be ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:41 PM
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It’s difficult to care about people who drag other men down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:38 PM
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Hey that’s awesome. Taking care of your hygiene and physical health is a sign of growth and progress. Crossing some goals off the checklist is a big deal. Forgive yourself. When you are trying to stay afloat, every victory is a good one. Even if it’s just flossing or making your bed. Be good to you, this is the only life you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:28 PM
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Ummm… lemme think on this one. Predation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:26 PM
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I repeated his actual words. Older men have more life experience than younger women. Men openly admit they prefer young women because they lack sexual experience. Literally seeking inexperienced, naive people out of insecurity and the desire to dominate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:25 PM
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Ima give you a couple minutes to find this quote in the thread. “…an older man may not be the most experienced romantically”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:20 PM
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Every single inexperienced, insecure man here who claims he will only seek and date women with his level of experience. All of them. It’s in the fucking OP
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:14 PM
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Read it again. That’s what men say they like about young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:13 PM
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I care about the men who can be liberated from the crab bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:12 PM
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🤣 I didn’t claim those women are naive, since I’m not the old guy trying to justify his interest in younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:08 PM
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I hope you are in a place where you can make female friends. You deserve love and support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:07 PM
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It isn’t that love isn’t important. It’s that there is no solution which doesn’t infringe on the freedom and autonomy of others. And since those others are women who many if not most men regard as accessories, supplemental aids to men instead of fully realized human beings with their own rights and freedom, it’s clear that men feel women exist to serve them. Recent anti feminist sociopolitical rhetoric about the birth rate and women’s right to work and healthcare confirm this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:00 PM
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Because “I prefer naive and inexperienced girls” is alarming to every woman, every girl, every father of a daughter, ever brother of a sister, and most therapists. Remember when Michael Jackson defended his proclivities by saying “I just relate to kids better than adults” and we all reflexively cringed in horror? Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:54 PM
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Freedom and autonomy that my female ancestors didn’t have is worth it. My grandmothers and a couple aunts were miserable. I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:18 PM
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The male fantasy isn't about a nerd getting the girl, if anything, the male fantasy is about the man of good character (the hero) getting the girl regardless of if he's handsome or not. The idea that being the good guy is rewarded. A Just World Fantasy. I’ve been telling you guys this for months. Men write, cast, animate, produce, and promote this shit you fellas call “Romance” as though women have any hand in it. It’s all about nerds and unattractive men, as it’s always been. It’s damn near pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:17 AM
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Have you ever considered just looking around? Using the same senses used to match clothing and plans to weather? The same basic senses which inform humans who is attractive and popular, who is well liked and appreciated vs the other guys? It’s real easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:10 AM
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Women don’t date men who are jealous of their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:02 AM
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Terpers: “Women LIE!!!” Also terpers: tell big lies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:00 AM
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Did you even actually watch that movie? She herself chose stay an ogre. He never told her to do that or make her do it. This is my favorite chapter of TRP. It’s the part where men admit they’ve been lying all along, and women never “misled them” and Disney never “misled them”. Women don’t believe this horseshit, men write it, men produce it, and it’s the male fantasy of how the ugly guy/nerd gets the girl. Hate to break it to you, DT, but if Fiona had never been cursed with ugliness, she wouldn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:20 PM
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I love (and by love I mean hate) how men frame obsessive fixations and covert contacts as “chivalry” and throw years of collective tantrums when women don’t do what manipulative men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:02 PM
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Except for my first boyfriend at fourteen, they’ve all done it and it gets worse as I age. I broke up with the last one a year ago and he demanded a reason, so I sent my phone records. Didn’t even include my social apps, the constant comments he put on everything I ever posted (I don’t post much) or the emails. 80% of my phone bill came from his number. The previous three did the same thing. If I didn’t love kids and family, I’d be happier alone; they drive me fucking crazy. personally struggle …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:59 PM
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Gotta watch ‘em. Men shame the women who reject them, and infantilize the women they desire. Dating men requires heavy vetting and risk assessment. Don’t make the mistakes your twenty-five/forty-five year old sisters have made.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:15 PM
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Favorite PPD comment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:12 PM
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I’m not describing the character’s perspective. The writer deliberately flipped the script and made her ugly/humbled her to appeal to ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:12 PM
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Only men would portray “please don’t smother me” with avoidant behavior. I’m aware of how vasopressin/mate guarding works for men, but I still feel that men who build and maintain the infrastructure, win Olympics, and run into burning buildings could maybe refrain from messaging 80 times per day. I realized in writing my first response that I’m projecting a lot of hurt I felt in a past relationship onto this conversation so that’s really all I have Yeah, me too. Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:11 PM
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You’ve asked every single woman you know since childhood how to get laid? Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 07:07 PM
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She wasn’t ugly before the curse??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:22 PM
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Ya gonna pretend men never watched porn, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:10 PM
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but they SAY Why do men try to pretend that happily partnered women spend tons of time misinforming unpopular men? When and where are women claiming that looks don't matter, whilst dating and marrying attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:10 PM
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Shrek literally uglified a woman to humble her, which is the supremo incel fantasy... Written by a man, as 99% of nerd-gets-the-girl stories originate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:06 PM
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You're wrong. All red and black pill men assume that women live for serving men and children, and that any minor thing they do to "help" is a massive sacrifice on their part. Men work the hours they see pay for, but expect women to work around the clock unpaid. Men work the same forty hours when single as they do when unmarried. Work doesn't magically become a massive "sacrifice" because a woman and child some along. And your post is intentionally vague. Why not say exactly who and how you feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:31 PM
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Women are certainly guilty of that too, though. Yes, absolutely. Good sex is rare for women, so sometimes it feels like love. We make mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:26 PM
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I would like to know why men here regard women as slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:11 PM
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This is some real pick me energy, OP. Women can clock women who feel they are competing for male attention. Genuine female friends are happy for their friends who are more attractive, more popular, more successful with men because they are aware that has zero effect on their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:08 PM
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You mean women choosing to stop making money make less money? W O W Men don't deserve children. Some men should have been abandoned by their mothers as soon as they revealed they don't recognize or appreciate everything she's done for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:57 PM
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Oh, I'm never sure in this space. But thank you for the dialogue. I don't need people to agree with me, but it's nice that some man somewhere understands that being himself is the only way to ensure long term happiness in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:56 PM
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Want to contribute to the conversation or are you incapable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:38 PM
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Dude I've been telling you guys for months that men damn near universally lie about who they are and what they have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:37 PM
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I don't know if you mean me or him, but the team worship is and will always be weird and uncomfortable to me, equated with astrology. I play every sport I can because I'm physical and like to goof around and have fun and I have teams I prefer, but I can't imagine giving a shit if anyone else prefers my teams' "rivals". Having common interests doesn't require cult-like devotion to a team/actor/musician/astrological sign. Lots of people just vaguely enjoy watching football/baseball/Olymics/XGames …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:35 PM
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We've been over this thousands of times. As women became more autonomous, their expectations towards men didn't change. This is on men. Men have the freedom to refuse to serve the patriarchy. Men can decline to ask women out or refuse to pay for dates. Men can post profiles and social media offering to raise babies while mom works and pays the bills. Do that. No one is stopping men. Live your truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:30 PM
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Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:27 PM
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What we're seeing is the consequences of not adjusting fast enough. Men seem surprised by this, but women aren't. Women never believed men are supremely confident, competent, and capable. Men have always been vulnerable and needy, never took the steps to learn how to live independently because they always assumed a woman would be there to coddle and comfort them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:24 PM
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I'm not vulnerable at all, no problem kicking anyone out or pushing them away. I'm happy alone. My problem is that men don't listen or care what women want, they only care about locking down the woman they are sexually attracted to and outcompeting competitors. If a man tells me what he expects or needs and I love him, I'll do it. If I tell him what I need, he ignores it and does what he wants to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:21 PM
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Men work 40 hours per week and enjoy their free time and get to pretend any alone time spent with their own children is a Huge Favor to their Wives. Wives and mothers are on call 24/7 and expected to provide sexual service on demand. Someone is being exploited, alright, and it isn't the person who gives up every inch of freedom and autonomy to serve her husband and raise her children. Strange ideas from you, always. Who are you? I've never seen your name here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:18 PM
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Like, if my husband suddenly decided he wanted to homestead or something, we'd be getting a divorce Ha ha I love you for this. My favorite people in the world are honest and open, and we don't have to agree or share hobbies. I automatically like anyone who says "Fuck you, I'm not going running or growing my own food". (I'm a runner obsessed with gardening) I'm not going to date them, but I'm going to respect and admire them instantly. A man who tried to convince me he was outdoorsy and athletic …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:34 PM
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Vetting is about what you want. For women, vetting is about compatibility. What is vetting for men? Seeing her naked and comparing her to the women he wanks to in porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:28 PM
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The point of the shared discomfort and inconvenience Funny how convenient it is for men when women just shut up and cooperate with the subservient, dutiful role regardless of his behavior. What, exactly, is the discomfort and inconvenience he is sharing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:27 PM
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Same for capabilities but to a lesser degree. It’s easier to demonstrate those through actions and my presentation Just do the things. If you have proficiencies you use often and are comfortable with: just do them. "Hey, your garage/computer/lawn/garden/kitchen could be better, and I love this stuff. Can I show you an alternative or help you with this one?" If nerdy "I can see you are stressed. Have you tried distracting hobbies? Let me show you how I do Lego/puzzles/woodworking/gaming/whatever …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:21 PM
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Relationships stayed in tact not because people were better at them, but because they didn't have a great way to get out of them. People in collectivist cultures hide their misery. There is a reason their artists and poets are alone or marry outside their culture. People in cultures with arranged marriages cannot safely or comfortably leave because of lifelong social and familial repercussions. And some aren't qualified to make enough money to support themselves. And that's by design. People in …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 03:09 PM
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For women, the misrepresentation is an unforgivable sin. No one wants to waste their lives, their time or energy on a fantasy their partner faked long enough to secure a commitment. The resentment corrodes the relationship until it ends in a painful breakup. FTR Apparently some women fake a higher sex drive for the same reasons, and I get why men express bitterness and feel cheated and lied to over that, too. No one who misrepresents themselves can reasonably expect a harmonious relationship. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:40 PM
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What are you advice for a man to make their partner happy I feel like this should be a separate thread, but it's a brand new question here. Interesting, good idea. Perhaps a two-parter. "Women, what do you need to feel fulfilled and valued" and "Men, what do you need to feel fulfilled and valued"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:28 PM
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I meet mostly attractive, fit men who have no reason to inflate their credentials and exaggerate-to-blatantly-misrepresent their personality and attitude, and yet they do. But it's not just me. I watch my friends and coworkers do it, too. I get that men feel an innate compulsion to compete for mates, but in our social construct where we comment to monogamy, fraud and misrepresentation lead to divorce and strife. If I were a man, I'd offer a practical, honest representation of myself and women co…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:24 PM
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Hey, RG. I agree with everything you posted, I could have written it. Just wanted to direct you to something charming and fun. I hate piano, forced to take lessons my whole life and I really stink at it. But I'm fascinated by Jon Batiste and if you have TikTok, look for "Jon Batiste reacts" or similar search terms. He's unable to control his emotional reactions to music, and it's beautiful. Please watch a few of these videos, for no other reason than to reaffirm the importance of music to your l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:17 PM
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I hate attention from superficial men who I share nothing in common with. Resent it to the core of my being.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:11 PM
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Present my actual capabilities and assets along with my limitations in the beginning. No faking a persona, no faking an interest in her interests, no pretending to be the neatest, cleanest, most competent man in the city. Just be my physically healthy, mentally and emotionally accurate self, and she could take it or leave it. She'd most likely take it, because I'd only pursue women I actually share common interests and values with. And take it or leave it is the key. Insecurity, clinging, fawnin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:07 PM
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Please stop with the pedo insinuations. So fucking gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:36 AM
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You describe team support as a cult-like religion, are you aware of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:43 AM
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I’ve never seen women claim common values don’t matter, where are you seeing that so I can avoid those people
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:41 AM
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Oh and there are plenty of videos on social media, just look for Tough Mudder
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:06 PM
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I did sign a hold harmless, but no NDA. Most people tough enough for those things aren’t concerned about modesty, they were concerned about winning. I was just trying to get through it. I have a spine injury from a wreck so I struggled horribly with anything I had to crawl through or under. Left with my tail between my legs. But a fire truck offered a garden sized hose and I stood and washed the mud out of a lot of shorts and never once looked at men or women. It was nothing. The water was freez…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:05 PM
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Cuckholding = mate poaching. Both male and female animals occasionally use it as a mating strategy. It’s not a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:07 PM
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So we should just let people walk around naked and rut like dogs in the street then? Yes. Because if you are going for hysterical hyperbole instead of reason, I’m going with you. “We” should absolutely let people walk around naked and rut in public, because that’s the next step after yoga pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:20 PM
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Stay home if the year 2025 is too advanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:36 PM
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~ Planet fitness is also the only gym in existence that I know of that doesn’t have weights that go beyond 60 pounds~ It’s 80 pounds. You’re not allowed to make noise when you work out meaning you can’t push yourself, you can’t drop your weights, etc Good. Neither does the YMCA or any school, college, or professional gym I’ve ever joined. Shut the fuck up if you can’t lift without squealing like a child desperate for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:11 PM
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Women don’t want men they would never date leering at them, either. Self correcting problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:10 PM
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Wow. Conspiracy theories about a chain gym. 70% of people don’t use their gym memberships. It’s not limited to PF. Planet Fitness doesn’t have locations in small towns, so it’s safe to assume there are competitors. Go there. Or work out at home. Purchase blinders if unable to look away from women dressed in athletic gear. Problems solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:00 PM
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Its feet, isn’t it? It’s always feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:47 PM
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If he “frequents the business”, he’s a supporter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:46 PM
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What practices at a gym are deceptive? Do you have grounds for a lawsuit? Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:45 PM
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If I were deeply offended by the dress code of a business I’m not required to attend, I just wouldn’t go. It’s not that hard to avoid seeing attractive and fit human beings. Walmarts are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:42 PM
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I rarely drink alcohol, I’m fit. But I do enjoy hanging out with my friends a few times per month.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:41 PM
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Such a person wouldn’t even last 5 days as a man I'd rather die, frankly. Rather die than settle for a conservative, insecure, red/black piller, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:20 PM
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Someone doesn't go out. Newer bars serve non alcoholic beverages. Both my running and cycle club meet at a craft beer bar which serves kava, acai bowls, elixirs, and smoothies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:20 PM
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Which men are constantly begging for pegging and suffer innumerable ridiculous fetishes? Hint: women aren't begging their partners to suck their toes, hunch balloons and fart on cakes...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:17 PM
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I'm 29. Things are the same now as they were when I was in school. Some kids have differing levels of hormones, different parents, and different hobbies, but most kids have always had boyfriends and girlfriends from preschool onward.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:16 PM
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It's about controlling women. Sex isn't a bad thing. War is a bad thing. Some of us have rational priorities and morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:14 PM
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People who "rigorously exercise" are aware that humans have bodies. Some of us even like fucking one another! It's wild, right??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:12 PM
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I tried (and miserably failed) a Tough Mudder a couple weekends ago and I saw everyone's junk, because we were all desperate to hose off before getting in our cars. No one cared. Some people hid, some tried to change behind buildings, some people were so uncomfortable with mud in our crevices and cracks that we just begged the people with the hose to help us. Next one is beside a lake, so we can all run in and swim the mud off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:11 PM
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Somewhere in men's primate brains they are certain that if they corral the fillys, they will have their pick, even if they are mean, ugly, small, and weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:09 PM
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It's not a matter of fashion, is it. It's men's desire to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:07 PM
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God forbid a business protect it's its financial interests... Men are soooo oppressed (Thank you from the bottom of my heart, u/MediumRareInnards, for correcting my grammatical error)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:06 PM
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Congrats on the humble brag I guess? I've never been the prettiest girl in school, (I've never been the prettiest girl anywhere) I didn't cheer, and I wasn't voted "most popular". But I was always at ease with the company of boys as well as girls, and my first boyfriend from kindergarten is still a family friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:04 PM
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Valedictorians and salutatorians have partners. Tommy's problems don't include "being too smart".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:02 PM
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Kids in kindergarten don't care about any of this kind of stuff, why are you bringing up kindergarten kids? Every picture of me from school (I started at four) shows me with boys standing beside me with their arms around me, trying to hold my hand. I never went to a single dance without a partner. told to men It's remarkable how each and every black/red pilled man was sight impaired and never saw any media until age 30. How did that happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:59 PM
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Those women aren't going to marry men who can't compete, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:56 PM
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not because of their hard work The fuck? You think athletes sprung from the head of Zeus?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:56 PM
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It's the same topic. Mate poaching and cuckholding are both represented across all spectrums of sexually reproducing mammals, including humans. You know those men who cry about the "friendzone"? Sneaky little cucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:54 PM
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Ha ha where do you live that indecent exposure is a hazard? The only people who see men and women in athletic gear are going to gyms and beaches. That's like saying a kid can obtain fentanyl and other drugs on the street Ha ha no, it’s like saying “Certain men can’t be trusted at gyms, athletic events, and resort areas”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:38 PM
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No thanks, I’ll do as I please, and I prefer debunking bad science.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:35 PM
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The scientific term is mate poaching Because the term describes the POV from the "poacher". Now find the mirror research on "cuckholdery" and take note how often younger, smaller, non dominate men sneak in and couple with desirable females. Your bias is showing, but science is not biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:10 PM
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I said that because I was specifically talking about women in the past since that's what redpillers often focus on. It's the Golden Age fallacy. They didn't experience life, likely had a sheltered existence and deify their parents and are blind to flaws, and consider mid century fiction to represent a better life. The men who idolize angry men who screech at people and threaten violence suffer enmeshed parents and magical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:07 PM
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They will, too, when given the chance. The wildest thing in PPD is men who actively hate women and express burning hostility also claim they are the "better choice" and the "good man". Dude... when people tell you who they are, women listen. Women often get fooled by men who are good at concealing a lack of morals and responsibility, but the men who come out of the gate hating women and speaking less of them: no woman in her right mind is walking into that dumpster fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:02 PM
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I've been sayin' this... But terper rage eclipses this simple truth. Turns out, hating women doesn't help men get laid. It's a mystery
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:00 PM
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I avoid the men on gear in my gym like the plague, but I see nuts every week. And I have yet to faint, catch the vapors, clutch pearls, or get pregnant. If women aren't interested in or dating that man, whatever is displayed or hanging out is no different from his elbows or knees. No big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:55 PM
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What is your cultural background? Your views on women's clothing do not reflect any western experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:53 PM
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Meanwhile kids experience and witness school shootings, are carrying bulletproof backpacks and undergoing active shooter drills. Pretty sure most kids are aware that adults have bodies, and most kids don't notice or care if athletic adults wear form fitting clothes, since we also watch the Olympics, rugby, gymnastics, swimming, volleyball, football, baseball, track and field...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:50 PM
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Never played a sport or been to the gym? I'm in a cycle club, dominated by aggressively health conscious men approaching middle age, and cycle shorts and apparel are imperative because traffic is heavy here and safety rules. We also meet at a bar after most practices/races, and wear the same clothes. Dick and ball prints are nothing. No one gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:48 PM
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Women don't care about men's hard-on for social status, and they also don't care about an endless line of dudes wanting to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:43 PM
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They aren't but it is rather hypocrital to want a men whose improved his life in ABC Taking care of one's physical health is indeed a Herculean effort for some people, but only men expect pussy as a reward for taking basic steps to improve their physical and mental health. Because bluepill said this was the case. Bluepill isn't a thing, but non red pillers suffer no illusions that sex is a TERRIBLE CORROSIVE THING WHICH DEGRADES AND DEVALUES WOMEN, that's the basis for the red pill. The red pill…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:42 PM
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Are those women seeking and having sex with men who feel that sex damages and degrade women? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:27 PM
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Why do people who enjoy sex need "boundaries"? Seems like you believe that sex is degrading. Do you? People who lack religious or social inhibitions are free to do as they please, and likely get more out of a casual sexual encounter than uptight, cautious women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:26 PM
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Deformity and poverty, primarily. Rosemary Kennedy, aunt of RKF Junior, apparently suffered some learning disabilities. Her father, RFK's uncle, decided to have her lobotimized, then institutionalized. Which is probably where RFK Jr got these ideas: "Autism destroys families, and more importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which is our children" ""These are kids who will never pay taxes. They'll never hold a job. They'll never play baseball. They'll never write a poem. They'll never go …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:24 PM
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Jesus you guys desperately cling to the idea that women are asexual. Please read this as though I’m shouting into a bullhorn. Women don’t want bad sex. The end. So many men are immoral cheaters that any woman, anywhere, of any age, could get fucked on the down low and no one would ever find out. But women don’t do that. Because bad sex isn’t worth it. Has nothing to do with social status, which women are magically granted at birth by the same idiots who believe that women don’t care about sex or…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:54 PM
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Because bluepill said this was the case. Bullshit. Men and women who oppose conservative red pill horseshit have never once pretended or lied that sexual attraction isn’t imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:50 PM
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bully and thinks this just a fluke Ain’t no way someone that inept designs, builds, and maintains the infrastructure. Working hard works in business and academics. Not with women and relationships. Both athletes and professionals work pretty fucking hard and they are successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:46 PM
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The decisions women make have fuck-all to do with men who they aren’t attracted to. Do terpers believe they are alternatives to Chad? Is that the new narrative? Because it’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:41 PM
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Doesn't mean you shouldn't be upfront about what you want and what you say you want.. The entitlement and the hubris is unparalleled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:47 PM
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Literally have opposing, competing mating strategies. Couldn't be more different with regards to sex. A woman produces around 300 potentially viable eggs in a lifetime, presuming she's healthy for the duration of her fertile window. Pregnancy, birth, and gestation are taxing-to-debilitating and the product is 18-26 years of round the clock care, concern, expense, and all at the expense of a mother's autonomy. A man produces a quadrillion sperm. 1,000,000,000,000,000 potential chances to impregna…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:22 PM
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Anyone who just sits on there ass, and say is broke and fat but then demands a model tier women is just as bad as a women doing the I know my worth stick and I’m note settling for non chads. This is in fact also called out by red pill. Okay but why? Her trajectory is nothing to you. The handful of notorious men here who never shut the fuck up about fat woman are obsessed with them to the point that we all pretty much agree they are closeted chubby chasers who doth protest too much. Have any of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:58 PM
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Anyone reading this thread should read OP's post history, because he buried an absolute gem in the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:33 PM
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This is beautifully written. I disagree with some of it and I'd write a rebuttal but I don't want to take anything away from your post. Your candor is remarkable, thank you for taking the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:31 PM
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The guys here never consider the risk and investment for women. It's a product of culture for sure, but mostly evolution. A woman produces around 300 potentially viable eggs in a lifetime, presuming she's healthy for the duration of her fertile window. Pregnancy, birth, and gestation are taxing-to-debilitating and the product is 18-26 years of round the clock care, concern, expense, and all at the expense of a mother's autonomy. A man produces a quadrillion sperm. 1,000,000,000,000,000 potential…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:16 PM
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That's so hard to hear from you, because I don't know a more measured and thoughtful man. You care so much for others, but not for yourself? You're literally brilliant, say more with few words than anyone here. Discriminating with your responses, careful to participate in socially relevant discussions while ignoring rage bait. And generous to a fault. I'm sorry younger you was unkind to you. I'm glad you outgrew that kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:12 PM
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However when society It's wild how men practically howl "women lack accountability" in unison like a wolfpack, while simultaneously demonstrating an utter lack of accountability and blaming some nebulous other for their lack of romantic and sexual success. Terpers sure do love their fairy tales.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:07 PM
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That's exactly who would merrily pay to humiliate and degrade a woman. For sex, though, they claim to be petrified of "beta bux", of a woman pretending lust or attraction. If they are at all consistent, they have too much pride to pay a woman to feign attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:54 PM
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Now see this is why men need mixed social groups, because some of you have no idea how men behave, and you're too close to the subject to see it in yourselves. Nice Guys aren't any better than Deadbeat Dads, because you are all cut from the same cloth. Every man who has ever been interested in me love bombs me for months. Lays it on really thick. Pretends to share all my hobbies, pretends to love all the art, music, books, and movies I like. Feigns enthusiasm and competence for all the things I …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:47 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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