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I don't give "signals"—that's some weird "dating strategy" BS to set up plausible deniability when rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:34 AM
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The internet rarely knows what I look like; real life knows what I look like, but I never get to know what real life thinks of me because it doesn't tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 09:44 PM
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Oh my god; there are individuals that believe bullshit—say it isn't so. Next thing you'll tell me that large parts of the planet believes in nonexistent deities, horoscopes, or other easily disprovable nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 02:11 PM
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I disagree; there is some evidence that suggests that around that age neuroplasticity reduces greatly and that this is more common in males than in females and it mirrors my experiences. They start to think in rigid patterns and loose a sense of inquisitiveness that younger individuals more often have. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4456778/ The ironic part is that many individuals that were quire remarkable were also suspeted to be autistic, but they made for very poor conversatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 02:48 AM
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Most human beings are above 25 and being remarkable has absolutely nothing to do with having a good conversation. Most human beings aren't remarkable at all, yet they often have conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:31 AM
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None of that has anything to do with being able to have a decent social conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:30 AM
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No, far from it. Every male I've known has essentially become incapable of having a decent conversation after the age of 25 or something; I've never met a male past that age that is remotely interesting to still talk to and all my friendships with males fizzled out around that point because we had nothing to talk about because they had nothing to talk about: they offered zero interesting insights any more. It happened to some females as well,but to many it did not happen. There is apparently som…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:08 PM
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None of the "red pills" are discussing actual strategy in their "red pill" fashion to do red pill things. They're all just complaining about how selective the other sex is. I thought the point of the red pill was that it actually worked or something and they they are loaded with sex but they're all very single so thank you reddit for your virtue signalling. Maybe the sub just needs tighter rules on absolutely no content about complaining about how hard it is to have sex and only content about st…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 08:00 PM
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Because it's actually an incel sub which is evident during purge weeks. All the other incel subs were banned so this is where they come now. This is not a "red pill vs blue pill" debate sub any more: this is an incel sub but the rules say that the incels must allow outsiders to challenge their views and can't just ban them and the mods remove circlejerk posts, but other than that 80% of the userbase are incels, 10% are legitimate redpills, and 10% are those that challenge incels and almost no in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:10 PM
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Americans have a propensity for that— it's the land of tribalism and identity poltiics due to the two party state: all groups are complaining how bad their group has it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:14 PM
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To shed more context on this: North America has a concept of "tryout dates" where you're "dating" to see whether you are compatible when you don't have any real fealings yet; that's what creates this different. "tryout dates" in most of Europe are considered somewhat improper, especially when done with multiple individuals and is considered playing with the feelings of others—if you go on a "date" you're definitely already very interested and not just "trying the water".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:12 PM
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I'm fairly certain that this entire "incel" and "redpill" phenomenon is an almost chiefly US thing yes. But that can be said about 90% of "social problems" that Americans like to talk about like they're universal but really just isolated to the US. I remember a post that talked about how "western society breeds school shooters", sure dude, very "western"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 05:09 PM
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The thing is that you would expect the opposite from an evolutionary standpoint and historically that was the case in many cultures. Almost always, the less selective sex grows "showier" it's the male peacock that has the fancy tail, not the female peacock. One would expect that males put more time in their appearance or develop other secondary sex characters to show them. In many historical cultures it was clearly males that putmore effort into their appearance so it might simply be a contempor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 07:07 AM
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I despise "dating strategy" and all that crap. I do what I enjoy and feel like doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:27 AM
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If you consider my post confirmation for the idea that ugly females on average receive more male attention than average females then you're looking for confirmation for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:35 AM
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If out of my league is better looking than I? then definitely, because I'm pretty ugly. I could tell because subjective beauty evaluation skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:04 AM
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Dragon Ball Z probably has the highest muscles and even that is less than your mainstream X-men character shot. Of all the other popular series Bleach Naruto One Piece Hunter × Hunter Yugioh Fullmetal Alchemist All these dudes have super powers or shoot lasers out of their hands or whatever, but none of them are really buff and not even in DB are they that buff unless for dramatic show after some recent transformation, but they do tend to have haircuts that range from "remarkable" to "ridiculous…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:56 AM
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Then what explains that a male only needs to grow beautiful long, well maintained hair for females to constantly say "Wow, you have really beautiful hair" but almost no male would ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:42 AM
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How much of this is purely a United States thing anyway? I noticed that all of this muscular male idea media crap seems to come from that place and that in most other places it doesn't seem to be the case. It's often noted that US male superheroes designed as a power fantasy for males tend to look ridiculously buffed and jacked but it doesn't look that way at all in say French or Japanese comic books, especially in the latter where they're more so noted for their unique-to-visually impossible ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 01:39 AM
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Intelligence is overrated and individuals typically conflate other terms such as diction, accent and all that stuff with "intelligence". Like Benedict Cumberbatch being called the "intelligent" or "thinking woman's crumpet"; I'm fairly certain that individual never really said anything that betrayed particularly intelligent though, but it speaks in RP so that automatically means "intelligent" or something. Every once in a while on r/askreddit the question of "what betrays high intelligence" come…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:10 PM
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You have to want it and you have to realize therapy isn’t a quick fix. In medicine that's typically called "not working". If I suffer from some heart problem and there is a surgery that fixes it, all I need to do to be healed is undergo it; I don't need to "have to want it" and it is "a quick fix". When medicine only works when the patient "wants it", it is typically called a placebo effect in most medicine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:34 PM
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It turns out most human beings don't live in morality tribalism central USA. I almost never see Dutch politicians speak in terms of morality an "justice" like US politicians do—they speak in terms of order and utilitarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 08:44 PM
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My "standards" for both "sides" are the same: Speak in language that is as precise and technical as possible Don't believe in morality Don't have any allegiances to any cause, party or individual and judge on a case by case basis
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:22 PM
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"confidence" and "arrogance" is like "freedom fighter" and "terrorist". Only idiots care about those kind of distinctions—it's the same thing depending on whether the speaking party likes or dislikes the referent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:03 AM
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Depends on your definition of "muscular". Visible sixpacks is already not healthy and requires dropping body fat below healthy levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:10 PM
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Including the term "based and redpilled" which doesn't refer to this specific redpill but comes from The Matrix. "redpilled" was a general term for "knowing the truth" long before this; it's funny how "bluepills" pretty much took the term as their own while it's clearly an insult. In The Matrix "redpills" are the ones brave to take the red pill and know the truth about the world whereas "bluepills" accept the delusions of the matrix on a subconscious level and prefer the bliss of ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 09:00 PM
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Because most male ones do too. Most of those lean boyband stars or other similar things don't have overly defined muscles either—they tend to have bodies looking like this which is "lean" but not with any real defined muscles and really quite comparable to the female ideal. professional athletes, swimmers, artists also tend to have bodies like this. Muhammad Ali in its prime didn't even have a sixpack.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:57 PM
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Why can't they be both? What is this false dilemma. "empowering" is such a nonsensical word: any profession is "empowering" because money commands power.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:43 PM
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I noticed that various "gravure models" or whatever wear random things like Star War shirts which I assume is a marketing choice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:09 AM
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Do I need a special reason? I simply do. It's a common trope in pornography that the character is tortured and initially hates it but then comes to like it—I suppose it's the contrast between the ultraviolence and the orgasmic expressions from being horribly mutilated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:25 AM
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The most degenerate ultra-violent ultra-gory comic books mostly. Think: "loli gets raped by tentacle monster and in the process and comes to enjoy having its fingers sliced off with ahegao faces”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 11:57 PM
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I believe they shouldn't even have the legal right to. Companies like reddit want to have their cake and eat it to; they want to be able to say with one hand "we are not responsible for what our users say and it's their content" but they also moderate the content. I'm saying they should choose: they should either be a publisher, in which case they can editorialize but also be held responsible for content, or they should be allowed to reject responsibility, but then they aren't allowed to editori…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:05 AM
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I don't even believe child porn should be censored let alone TRP. Really the only thing I believe should be censored is personal information leaking which I believe should be owned much like copyright by the individual it belongs to and can only be made public with permission from all those individuals. The rest is fair game: TRP, child porn, holocaust denial, getting on a soapbox and saying "all Jews should be gassed" or "females should be made slaves" or "capital punishment for atheists"—I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 12:54 AM
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"sexual orientations" didn't exist before the 1880s when the were invented by psychiatrists to medicalize religious sexual morality as psychiatry tends to do. Before that time every individual was what they now call "bisexual" so evolution and genetics obviously doesn't say much about "sexual orientations" that way. You mistakenly assume that sex in human beings is primarily for reproduction—high frequencies of same-sex sexual acts are very common in species that practice sex recreationally such…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 04:24 PM
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and the fact they're bi completely changes how you see that person And this is the only reason such pseudoscientific labels like ethnicity/race/sexual orientation/religion/virginity and all that other crap that can't actually be physically measured exists. It's simply a case of "I see you differently" based on it whatever that means. Rubbish for idiots whose minds gets too easily influenced by a label on a box. Nothing that is "self-identified" has any value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:10 AM
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Why would gender be special in this. You're never perfect—there are always some sexual things one wants to do that the other isn't into, or various non sexual things or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:06 AM
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Nope, but what cares—almost all sexual attraction is based on bigotry, stereotypes, and falling in love with a nonexistent image one has created of an individual in one's head. Human beings don't fall in love with human beings; human beings are far too mediocre for that; they fall in love with idealized images of human beings they created in their head that don't exist and all of that is based on stereotypes and prejudices.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 04:04 AM
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>seriously thinking that female orgasms are usually achieved by vaginal penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:08 PM
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Well, the female orgasm is significantly harder to reach than the male one No it isn't— It's harder to reach in those "female lies around; male does shit" types of sex, just as male orgams are harder to reach in "male lies around; female does shit" types of sex. If she is attracted to you she will orgasm without much trouble. If she isn't she will take a lot of effort. Attraction has nothing to do with it. Human beings simply orgasm poorly from others stimulating them and dictating the rhythm—it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:07 PM
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Nothing, that's why it's different, noncomparable, and the analogy is forced. One does not in general complete a 6 year university education to learn how to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:50 PM
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Nah, I managed to make the first woman I had sex with orgasm and I was just winging it. She of course didn't know I was a virgin. Female orgasms have very little to do with "male performance"; just like male orgasms have very little to do with "female performance". But for whatever reason in the "gendersphere" the idea lives that males are "responsible for female orgasm" but not in reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:45 PM
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No, but jobs are. That's why I'm saying "the difference" and that the two aren't analogous. My point is that it's perfectly reasonable or employers to expect it for more advanced jobs that employees know what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:43 PM
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The difference there is that one starts at the bottom and climbs to the top. One starts with a simpler job requiring less experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:12 PM
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Yes if this individual thinks it's worth the money to do so; no if not. Man, I provide such complex, thought out, and masterfully engineered solutions to problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:11 PM
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"stunning" individuals don't exist in real life. They exist either as drawings or highly photoshopped models with tonnes of makeup. I don't think I have ever in real life actually seen an individual on the street that's aesthetically rewarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 11:34 AM
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Low amount of dick/long hair combination where I live. Short hair looks ridiculous and repulsive, but dick is good for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:39 PM
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There is no way to know if you should. You take a gamble that it's an individual that wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:19 AM
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I do not bother with words for which Reddit threads pop up asking how one "personally defines it", as in recognizing that all have their own definition. Language exists to communicate to me, not to use buzzwords for its own sake—words that have no universally agreed upon definition are best avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 06:24 PM
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Oh wow, I was all ready to say "Vulva, not vagina" but it's actually about vaginae. I think it's quite rare to be aware of the shape of one's vagina to the same extent as one is aware of the shape of one's penis. How many individuals are aware of the shape of their oesophagus, rectum, ear ducts and other such entry points?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:04 AM
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I have never met any individual in my life that even likes big breasts and fat asses. Like, even most porn stars have medium sized breasts. That big breasts are oh-so favoured is such a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:53 PM
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Take one small look at the polyamory community to see that it becomes polyandry very quickly. The idea that it becomes polygny is such a strange and weird misconception that is often warned against.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:50 PM
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In general, family law should be treated as any other contract rather than being exempt from normal contract law. The weird thing is that they is that in many jurisdictions "courts don't like to get involved in families", so you can't generally make contracts about that kind of stuff, except for "marriage" which is basically a contract too, so they're perfectly happy to enforce a single one-size-fits-all contract, but they don't give individuals to freestyle their own rules as they see fit and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 06:48 PM
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Then why is it that on most professional modeling pictures they don't smile but often have this serious, pondering fierce stare?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:03 AM
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The same thing individuals in general comment more on female appearance—smiles are just a drop in thw bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 04:02 AM
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Then those that say so are crazy. But then again, this is the sub where "women said that" is frequently used for "I encounter at least one female individual that said so".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:39 PM
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The story proves that an average male can find a date on tinder which is nothing new because that was already established. Most males that go into online dating can find a date there you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:22 PM
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What does laying out height to income have to do with faces? How the hell does this completely unrelated thing suggest that height is more important than face for males—especially when it shows just as hard that female height correlates with high income as male height.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:20 PM
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Yeah, I know. When that sub was still up there was a picture thread and these dudes were convinced they were super ugly, but many of them looked far better and cuter than OPs example. There is also this meme picture on 4chan they call "the /pol/ guy"; it's a massive misogynist, racist incel that posted a picture there that spread across the entire board for how cute it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:17 PM
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These dudes are insane. Do they really think that height matters more than how good looking the face is? Two metres is also far too high for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:02 PM
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You've crazy if you actually believe that. Height doesn't mean fuck compared to face.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:00 PM
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Nothing— These kinds of "talks" are som weird US thing: they can figure that out for themselves and whatever knowledge I have will be completely outdated. No wonder US "dating life" is so absurdly formulaic if they actually sit down with the next generation and tell them some made up "rules" about it. Would you teach him not to rape women? Sems counter productive—being morally preachy about the obvious only makes it more alluring. Tell him what is the qualities of HVW Holly shit no—one can decid…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 07:16 PM
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Anything works for attractive individuals. Life is better for the pretty—one is even hired more easily. There was actually a research a while back that implied that on average human beings perceive a lecturer to be more intelligent of the video quality of the feed is better—the halo effect is a strong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 01:08 AM
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I don't speak for any party but myself; I speak about other parties however.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 10:12 PM
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Considered by what party? I said that the bishōnen type is not considered "feminine" in the Han-cultural sphere and many other places and that their being "feminine" is mostly something invented by Anglic media, so that would mean that Koreans tend to not consider them feminine but for instance Canadians do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 06:47 AM
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Where did I say they do? Like what are you even tal]king about? The word "Asia" doesn't even appear in my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 06:38 AM
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What does that have to do with anything I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 06:28 AM
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And like most theories without any evidence or explanatory value that completely violate Ockam's razor it's pure wishful thinking and wanting it to be true. "sexual orientations" is pseudoscientific BS to begin with and a completely unfalsifiable concept in this case because an individual's "sexual orientation" in all literature is purely defined by whatever the individual "self-identifies"—it's worth jack shit for any serious science outside of crappy heavily politicized gender students soft ""…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:28 PM
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This sub would not exist if al individuals made that simple answer. The entire reason this complex debate even exists is because the simple answer to nullify all of it is "Some do; some don't."—the debate exists because individuals are trying to find something that doesn't exist: the one thing the entire $gender likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:23 PM
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It should be noted that analysing the entire bishōnen aesthetic as "feminine" seems to be an Anglic idea. They aren't considered "feminine" in most parts of the world—and I gain the distinct impression that they are only called "feminine" in the Anglosphere because Anglic males are so notoriously not invested in their appearance that the word "beauty" itself has come to carry a feminine association in English: they simply consider anything that is "beautiful" to be "feminine" at this point. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 11:19 PM
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According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine (NLM), more than 50 percent of all men over the age of 50 will be affected by male pattern balding to some extent. In the US, I assume—it's not that common world wide. In any case, I consider short hair—not at least to well over the shoulders—misshapen and for freaks, if you wear a wig that's fine, if you shave your head and just always wear wigs because it's more convenient even though your natural hair is still there that's also fine but short…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/21 04:48 PM
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Marriage itself is pretty much associated with far-end religiousness where I live. I don't think I've ever met an individual that I liked that would consider marriage anything more than archaic religious traditionalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 10:54 PM
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I don't really think all those other things are as popular at all given that most of male stars popular with the female audience seem to lack them. It mostly seems to be males that are interested in them, and even that seems to be a particular subset obsesed with identity more so than with an appreciation for beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 04:32 PM
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It's a semantics issue. I remember a topic about how some jurisdiction changed the defnition of rape to also include anal rape and there was much rejoice. It turned out it was purely semantics, as the crime it was already classified under, something like "grossly indecent involuntary acts" carried the exact same punishment as rape. Honestly, I wonder if it wouldn't be btter if all legal things had numbers rather than names to avoid al the semantics arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 02:44 AM
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I wouldn’t define a masculine face as having a square jaw. You see it frequently mentioned on this sub. The belief that all females are attracted to these features: square jaw muscles broad shoulders thick arms brow ridges widow's peak low voice
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/21 12:56 AM
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Pretty much all male film stars popular with female viewers seem to be smooth faced prettyboys that lack square jaws. It's also a meme that in female dating sims all these character designs have jaws so pointy they could be use as a lethal weapon. I'm sure there are some that like square jaws, but they seem to be a small minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 09:46 PM
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No, I'm trying to same humans are a species. Neither I nor OP were specifically talking about "women".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 10:11 PM
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Because it's yet another piece of bullshit in a long line of bullshit. Bullshit species does bullshit things—you picked out some oddly specific type of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 09:21 PM
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US and Europe aren't the only places in the world. There are definitely more places that work that way, but it's often pointed out that the US culturally has more in common with a developing nation than a developed one—it has cultural sentiments one would expect of a country with less than half its GPD/capita. Which might have something to do with that half of that GPD goes to the one percent there, so 99% of the population essentially has half that GPD/capita to work with so the idea of the US …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 07:39 PM
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Choose for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:41 PM
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Need to be for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:40 PM
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Undefined—I don't have any friends that do "relationships". My second question is do you think I had a justified reason for not wanting to go further with our relationship? You can do whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:40 PM
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emotional support That's the word circlejerkers use for circlejerking, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 01:14 PM
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I think it's unwise to assume that there are such consistent and typical "reasons" and I think assuming the existence of patterns that do not exist is a general thought flaw. Human beings seem to have a tendency of assuming that superficially similar symptoms must have similar causes—I am not so sure of that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 10:11 AM
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Stabbing an individual in the back is illegal regardless of friendship—I don't need "loyalty" to protect myself from that. That's the nice thing; if it's truly so bad then it's probably illegal to do regardless of friendship; the rest is just tribalism and "defending friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:09 AM
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Apparently those specific individuals that do so can't. Is there an individual that said that every individual can do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:46 PM
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Not in the slightest. My family is not concerned with whether I marry and what individual I might marry. but they are loyal decent guys who respect people and would treat you well None of this I care about. Loyalty in particular I despise as a character trait—loyalty to human persons is as dumb as loyalty to brands.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 03:44 PM
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I can't recall a single instance that I saw a "couple" at all, because I have no way of knowing what random individuals on the street I see are "couples". Just as I can't recall a single instance of talking to any individual with a pacemaker—no doubt I've talked to some that had, but how can I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:31 PM
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Because you send your time reading "gendersphere" blog posts where individuals talk about this stuff and individuals that spend their time talking about gender and "empowerment" tend to have gendered beliefs. Most individuals don't even think about it nor have an opinion about it, but they aren't the one voicing opinions online about it either they see neither as empowering or and don't seek politics behind entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:44 AM
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More so "one can find at least one example", which is true of anything. "genders are the same" is not something that is ever proven; it is assumed a priori so that a single example proves a claim. Yes, I'm sure there is at least one example of a female human individual that would rather share and will even except being beaten; it wouldn't even surprise me if this were 2-8% but anything higher than that would probably be surprising to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:47 AM
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And after which you're no longer a virgin. So this thing comes up like once in one's lifetime; one fucking moment and then it never plays again— Mountain from an ant hill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:24 PM
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No, what you should take from this is that in 99% of interactions it will never come up. They can't treat one differently because they never ask so one never lies to begin with so how can one generally be treated differently except in the 1% of cases where it comes up? It can't be that big a party of one's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:04 PM
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That's what a semantics debate is. The point is that it's clear what OP in this context means with the word, even if it isn't the historical meaning. The word "man" historically also meant "human" regardless of sex and age, but it's pretty clear what you meant with it in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:02 PM
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Most inividuals don't know whether others had sex or not. That's the point, nothing physically changes; this isn't "Loveless" where one's ears disappear after having sex. There's no sign; there's no test; the hymen is a myth that dissolves on it's own during puberty anyway—there is nothing that even the most educated specialist can use to put a human being under a microscope and determine whether that individual is a virgin or not, so how can one be treated differently on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:40 PM
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when the majority of men can not even get sex or relationships to begin with. You don't really believe this do you? like 1% of males remains virgins after 25 in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:37 PM
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That's a dumb semantics debate. OP clearly means male that never had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:19 PM
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I don't think it's a "tool to control women". I simply indeed don't hold credence to things that I can't physically observe; the same holds for male virginity. It's also a dumb semantics debate with all sorts of different definitions of what losing one's virginity means, and I dislike that ever mean. Would you date a male virgin? If not, for what reasons? No, I don't "date", dumb semantics game again—gender and virginity have nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:19 PM
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That's wat the goal of improvement in this topic obviously is when reading OP. It's improving one's chances to get laid, improving one's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 12:37 PM
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That's not really the case with all this "dating self-improvement" though. The point is that they do certain things with the delusions that this will make them more successful in "dating" and my belief is that it doesn't work at all because they see it as a competition of strategy, tactics and achievements an someone can get "good at" whereas in reality it's really simply something that simply "happens" to most individuals by chance. So they get more and more frustrated as all their stuff isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:28 AM
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Most self-improvers seem extremely frustrated in my experience. Worrying about "improving" intead of living life seems stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 10:25 PM
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I don't recommend any individual "improve itself"—it's useless. I once saw a post somewhere on /r9k/ which really outlined this and the gist was: for most individuals love and relationships is simply something that "happens" as teenagers already and young adults. Most human beings do not need "to improve" to get that. That these posts come from a weird place of that all "males" need to "improve" or whatever is simply putting personal problems onto genders—they act like 80% of males aren't having…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 09:13 PM
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If this is the standard for you, what are you going to do if your own son can’t meet any of these standards in his life later on? It isn't my standard, and parents "telling" their children something about "dating" isn't done where I live anyway. Can't recall my parent ever doing anything of the sort and it would be useless advice anyway—you just figure it out by watching others and I didn't even have a need for that because I disagreed with the standard anyway and it never hurt me in any way. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 06:07 PM
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I do not use instagram; I do not use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 10:12 PM
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That's the interesting difference isn't it? that user said "disgusting", not "unattractive". I've definitely notice that many consider the idea of two males kissing downright disgusting, not so much "not interested myself" but "disgusting", and that doesn't seem to apply to the same degree with females. You see it too in Anglic fiction: they're fine including male/male relationships nowadays but you rarely see them actually kiss or have sex scenes as apparently much of the audience does think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:56 PM
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There was actually a topic on r/askmen that asked "Why are so few males bi?" and the top answer was "Freddy Mercury was bi, but the whole world remembers him as gay; that's why." You see it too with a lot of fictional characters and the how they are instantly tagged "gay" when it's male with the slightest hint of homoerotic behavior but female characters not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 10:49 PM
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My experience with such individuals is that they tend to be insufferable moralfags that are completely obsessed with what others think of them. There comes a point where one has more money than one can reasonably spend—at that point money no longer becomes a practical tool but a way to show off one's social status and more is only coveted by those that care about that. The end result is is an individual that really tries to be liked by everyone and desperately goes along with any new moral fad. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 09:10 AM
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It's a silly metric. A better metric is using percentiles—as in subjectively more attractive than n% of persons. It isn't even clear whether a 5 maps to 50th percentile or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/21 05:58 AM
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No, I never got judgement; no individual ever expected me to reproduce and my parent seemed to figure out that I was not the type to reproduce and have a family when I was as young as 10. Choose? why does one "choose" to not have a dog? why does one "choose" to not be a doctor? Individuals usually choose what they do do, not what they don't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 11:28 AM
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I have no idea what the average individual of any gender is like, and those that think they do probably have a very inaccurate impression. It also does not really matter, since I am certain that whatever the average is, I would not find it attractive, as is the case with most. I have never used a dating app in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 12:19 PM
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There are two things you're missing. Legolas and whatever boyband icons you're talking about weren't selected purely for their looks. Orlando Bloom, while very attracted, had a gracile, slightly androgynous quality to him which fit the character of the elves. And was found attractive due to it,not despite of it; that's the point. Likewise boybands are selected to give the impression of youth so they are more reminiscent of the peers of high-school girls who make up their main fanbase. Yes, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 05:02 AM
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No, I'm understanding exactly what you said and I'm saying it's false. How can you misread this paragraph so much: The problem is not that theory; the problem is that the items on the list are what is considered universally attractive. Legolas was probably specifically selected to lack many of those traits—same thing with every other boyband icon or every character played by Michael J. Fox or James Spader—these traits aren't considered universally attractive and there's a very big audience that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 12:39 AM
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That would maybe be the case if it were only dating sims, but when it's also big and popular stars like Michael J. Fox or Loki or every character played by James Spader or every other boyband or Joseph Gorden-Lewitt that are violating these rules then you're not longer taking about outliers but about mainstream, commercially successful stars. At this point the "outlier" becomes around 70% if not more. The truth of the matter is that most male actors and characters that tested very positively wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 09:20 PM
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The list isn't comprehensive, nor is every trait absolutely necessary. The list said that every single one of those traits is considered universally attractive. The sheer number of popular male sex icons that are specifically selected to lack many of those traits would indicate otherwise. The point of the list is to show that for anyone considered attractive, the universally accepted traits are the ones "doing the talking" if you will, and all the subjective traits are just extra that are only a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 08:22 PM
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That's moving the goalpost. I simply argued against the specific list given by the user I responded to, that specific list of traits that was supposedly considered universally attractive. You have watered down the claim of that specific list of concrete points to "One has to be pretty". I never argued that one didn't have to be pretty. I simply said that that specific concrete list of points is not what is universally considered to be the ideal of beauty, despite of what the poster said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 07:41 PM
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You're listing people with 99.999th percentile status, And they got to be that despite lacking most of those features is the point, because it's complete nonsense that these are considered unversally attractive. For about half of the things in that list, 50% of females will consider them a detriment rather than a boon. the most important being a good jawline, good eye area and a well developed, proportionate face. Yes, but that's not what was mentioned in that list, is it? As I pointed out in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 07:12 PM
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Orlando Bloom is a traditionally masculine attractive dude, who dressed up in a costume where he had pale skin and no facial hair Legolas does not have: Deeper than average voice, probably slightly less deep than average for an adult male High shoulder to hips ratio, pretty average Prominent cheekbones wide prominent chin thick neck prominent browridge, faaar less than the average adult male thick hair eyebrows are thinner than the average male the only times legolas was seen smiling was a rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 07:09 PM
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There was probably a reason why Michael J. Fox was really popular for a while and all the girlss were all over Marty McFly having that "cute puppy" appeal. The last time this was brought up some statistics from female dating sims and the most popular love interests in some of those games were brought up and quite often the most popular or second most popular character in them was the short "cute puppy" character.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:24 PM
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OP asks for evidence. Most upvoted comment is no evidence but pure conjecture; that's also prima facie completely false by simply looking around and seeing some of the most popular male sex symbols with males. I very remember the craze of drooling over Legolas, Justin Bieber, and the Kaulitzses that none of that. Some of the things you list like "thick browridge" are probably going to considered unattractive with most.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 05:21 PM
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Relationships are dumb; gender is dumb; sexual exclusivity is dumb; marriage is dumb; short is hair is hideous and any human being without long hair looks like a grotesque deformity—foit me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 07:39 AM
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If that were the case they wouldn't also be wearing it in every public appearance without studio light. There are no studio lights at random awards show catwalks, but they're all wearing it there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 05:28 AM
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No man could legit increase his SMV with makeup. Explain to me then why every single male film star or television host is sent to the makeup room before any public appearance or even before the cameras are rolling in said films.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 04:35 AM
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The exact same way I feel about females wearing makeup to increase their "sexual market value"—individuals that have "dating strategies" and consciously think about this crap are in general goddamn annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 04:33 AM
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Groups don't enjoy or do enjoy status or equaity; individuals do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:40 AM
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Groups that come together to whine about how oppressed they are perhaps. I've never seen it in groups that come together to research nuclear fusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 10:03 PM
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Horseshoe theory eh. I noticed before that the language on r/theredpill in the rules seemed quite similar to the typical SJW "safe space" rules. You can often take a typical incel/rp writeup and just do a s/male/female s/female/male on it and arrive at a typical SJW writeup, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:11 PM
1

I'm sure you know many individuals you never went on a "first date" with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:49 PM
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Going on "first dates" is a turnoff in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 12:16 AM
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You assume that individuals that visit prostitutes do so because they can't find sex. I once read a blog written by a prostitute that was also a client of other prostitutes and the FAQ had the obvious question of why go to prostitutes if you're already one yourself? But the thing is that customer is king was the answer and that as customer one gets to choose with what prostitute and what to do and is fully in control. That's why many individuals that otherwise have no trouble getting sex still v…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 04:53 PM
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Nope, seems like a loose-loose to me. I dislike relationships and I have nothing against sex, so I'm giving up something I potentially enjoy to get something I don't. It's like giving up sex to in exchange for being forced to do a giant pile of dishes each day—it's not even that giving up the sex is a super big problem; it's the dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 07:23 PM
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LWN, Tweakers, Slashdot, Lainchan, Arxiv— It seems that increasing signal to noise is simply: make a community about a subject that attracts intelligent individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 08:17 AM
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This exact same thing was posted on Hacker News recently. The difference in intelligence is hilarious: on HN the statistics and science behind it were immediately analysed with many pointing out that a 10.7% vs a 11.3% divorce rate difference isn't much, as well as pointing out many conflating factors such as male fetuses in the womb being more likely to die from a stressed carrier as well as rebuttals offered to the various analyses also pointing out other controls. Here: it's simply a vessel f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 04:12 AM
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I gain the impression that many of them hate promiscuous females. It is not enough that I succeed; others should fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 07:17 AM
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Don't use terms that mean a different thing for different individuals; formulate what you say as precisely as possible Be morally apathetic Be individualistic and don't take social groupings seriously These traits seem to heavily correlate with each other in any case. How have these standards shaped your LTR history? Are you successful enforcing these standards? Have you ever adjusted them? Never needed to adjust them. I don't really socially interact with individuals that don't have these and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 12:35 AM
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Both "being attractive" and "having feminine attributes" feels like neither to me It's something posters on the internet talk about—not something that affects real life. What did your mother's influence have on this, tyrannical, encouraging, possibly competitive? My parent left me alone with regards to this. How would attractiveness and expression be if it wasn't a social standard for your gender? Is it possible a competitive aspect would just recreate it or would more women feel free? It isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 03:54 AM
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I do not think most males have "troubles getting dates". Most human beings are not not fixated on some weird "dating strategy" self-improvement stuff and simply live their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 09:07 PM
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Nothing, they're dumb buzzwords that change from culture to culture and individual to individual. They're the that-manieth useless terms that individuals don't use to communicate but because they get some kind of dopamine reward high simply from name-dropping them or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 04:37 PM
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I'm fairly certain it isn't legal where I live to practice any form of price discrimination based on gender or anything at all. From what I understand, in say the US, health insurance or car ensurance can also charge different premiums based on gender, age, or pre-existing conditions or whatever they want, that isn't legal throughout the EU; it's only legal to charge higher premium for prior cashins by the same client. Basically, the US is strangely liberal with how much price discrimination it …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/21 09:22 PM
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Hell no— all those internet guides seem silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:31 PM
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Confidence and charisma are—like most of these self-help/dating advice words—deliberately vague poorly defined buzzwords to offer the illusion of helping whilst actually doing fuck all. What one individual considers confident and charismatic the other does not. It's like giving the advice "be more beautiful!" but not defining what that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:44 PM
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https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_clr.asp#:~:text=About%2076%20percent%20of%20public,school%20level%20(36%20percent). Yes, it's quite clearly teachers. Where do you derive your 95% from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 06:10 PM
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First off—I searched for multiple countries and couldn't find one where the female percentage in public schools exceeds 76% Second off—developing an "identity" is for idiots that can't think for themselves—they can rot for all I care and I don't care about them. There’s many areas in society where people say we should have more equal representation. How do women feel about this wrt the gender imbalance at teaching institutions? The aforementioned idiots that can't think for themselves care about…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 03:21 PM
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No, but I don't mind it either. It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious. —Oscar Wilde They can have donated their kidney an all their belonings to charity or have raped several 5 year olds and gotten off on a legal technicality—it doesn't matter anything compared to simply how entertaining they are to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 01:05 PM
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To be fair though, I don't think a statement like "women like sex" would ever need to be qualified with "but with individuals they're attracted to, and in an appropriate context". But then again, it seems that that part is typically well understood and the in the former case it often isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 06:57 PM
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Women typically want both. I wouldn't know what others want, but I want neither. Passionate individuals are typically extremely annoying and biased and let their emotions get the better of them. I would go with talkative over passionate though but rather neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 12:22 PM
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Have you ever been "approached" like that by any of your friends or given them an "indication of interest" that you wanted to be their friends? Besides, the story doesn't even exclude the possibility that I've been "approaching" them. I haven't for the record, but the story doesn't exclude it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 09:12 AM
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I do not wish to be "approached" by strangers of whatever sex for any other reason than business such as asking directions or information. I do not give "signs"; I have a mouth that is capable of communicating to far less ambiguity than "signs" and that mouth does not tend to communicate to strange individuals that I know nothing of "come hither for social reasons". These are conflicting ideas, so which mentality should guys adopt, to wait for IOI’s or not ? It's interesting isn't it? How member…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 08:04 PM
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I believe that there is at least one female human that is, and at least one female human that isn't. I continue to find these questions stupid. If you want a serious answer then formulate your questions numerically in percentages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 09:19 AM
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As much as I hate the purge weeks on this sub, it shows well how all these "self help" groups that are supposedly about strategy and improvement are really just a thin veil about hating and complaining about the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 04:07 PM
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Is "branch swinging” yet another need for fancy jargon for simply "breaking up for another individual"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 06:30 AM
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Such experiences are a factor of what individuals one selects upon. I don't have any clingy or needy social associates because that's what I select upon—all of my friends are fairly robotic, independent and amoral so I don't experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 08:38 PM
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Will girls show up with a tool box and change tires, brakes, build decks, an outhouse, get a truck out of the ditch, etc? Co-op a video game, show up for poker, bring a handle of booze, bring her own fire arm to the gun range? I'm female and the bolded is what I have one or tend to do with friends... come on man it's 2021— guns aren't legal to privately own where I live and sports shooting is rare but when it exists the shooting range owns and stores the guns. Also, none of my friends own cars w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 02:29 PM
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As another individual pointed out in this thread this is often simply a matter of one's professional environment. If you're say a female research mathematician thennot only will most of your colleagues be male but so will most of the individuals you know from university so it's statistically probably a very much possible that if you have 8 friends that all of them are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 02:22 PM
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Yes I have plenty of male friends and my SO has plenty of female friends. I wouldn't date someone who ONLY has friends of the opposite gender though (imo that's kind of a red flag). Would you an individual that only has same-sex friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 02:18 PM
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Marriage should be abolished. It's what you sign up to when you get married and there's a very easy way to avoid that: don't get married. Now, I personally feel that many of the legal requirements of marriage are ridiculous and I do not believe that it would ever be legally binding if it were a standard normal contract because courts do not uphold ridiculous agreements that go against public policies. In most jurisdictions marriage entails having to pay for the debs incurred by the other spouse:…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 08:41 AM
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Neither—being found attractive is not something I actively strife for not something I'm explicitly hoping for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 05:06 PM
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That's effort into appearance. You seen an increasing number of males do it too in certain places and they get the same fan-base. It was also a thing during the emo craze.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:50 AM
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Yet many of those completely unattractive males are still married and have reproduced so apparently it doesn't work that way. Also: like the super charming handsome 5'2" guy or the ugly guy with a big dick and wide shoulders This ”tall and wide shoulders" talk is as silly as large breast talk; it's a stereotype, not reality. The truth of the matter is that many high-selling male and female models lack all of that because it's a dumb stereotype and though some care, the majority simply doens't. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:46 AM
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Being responsible for the life of another human being, especially a minor that most likely can't take care of itself would bother me. Having said minor also live in my house would bother me. On top of that having an adult live in that house would bother me. Being married would bother me. I see absolutely nothing desirable about this situation. If so do you show this understanding to a man in a BB situation who also feels the exact same way? What is a "BB situation"? I googled it and couldn't fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:15 AM
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It's not as bad as being beaten. Again, beating a human being or other acts of violence are generally illegal, being promiscuous isn't, and in most to all developed places not even infidelity is. That should show the difference in magnitude between promiscuity and violence and how unorthodox it is to consider both to be of similar magnitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 07:54 AM
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No, because I like porn, I like sex before marriage, and I dislike marriage. I could easily live without porn So could I; I could also easily live without carrots but they're tasty and it's nice that they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:54 AM
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Obviously because violence is bad and promiscuity isn't. If you believe promiscuity to be just as bad as violence then you can do so, but there are few jurisdictions that make the latter as illegal as the former, so your opinion is unorthodox.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 02:53 AM
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That's what I'm saying. The vast majority of people would think it's insane. Courts decide things that the vast majority of people disagree with all the time. In this case they decided upon the law and what the electorate voted. The average German does believe that it should be legal and that it should be the 14 year olds own decision even if they would not have personally done the same—that's the the difference. The whole "age of consent is 13 in Japan" is way more complicated than that - every…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:11 PM
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It's a common thing around the world. It's in fact an idiosyncrasy of common law to have so many "statutory" crimes where certain elements of crimes exist as a matter of law that don't have to actually be proven by the prosecution such as felony-murder where intent to kill is assumed to exist as a matter of law if the prosecution can prove the defendant had intent to commit a dangerous crime. Or with drug laws that over a certain mass of certain drugs is found that intent to redistribute then ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 02:45 PM
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I disagree that it would. In fact: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/relationship-teenager-girl-15-47-year-old-uncle-court-germany-german-a7394656.html it's also completely legal in Germany and let's not forget that the current president of France once had such a relationship. I think residents of Anglic countries can really overestimate how much they think the rest of the world shares their "teenagers should not have sex" idiosyncracies. I often see them act with complete surprise…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 02:41 PM
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I just looked it up. It's apparently a very common belief among US citizens that the age of consent is 18 where they live when it isn't or that it's 18 throughout the US with various explanations offered as to why.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 01:36 PM
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What media says it's 18? I've never seen that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 12:58 PM
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I live in a jurisdiction that theoretically allows for a 30 year old to fuck a 12 year old and with that I do mean theoretically—I don't think the courts ever allowed it. But it's exactly about what you raise: the courts here look at the individual context and there are more elements of the crime than simply age: the prosecution essentially has to prove that it is what you call "predatory" or rather "undermining the minor's capacity to make a voluntary decision" If the court is satisfied that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:38 AM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/relationship-teenager-girl-15-47-year-old-uncle-court-germany-german-a7394656.html To note: the ruling was not about whether the 14 year old could have sex with the 46 year old: as a matter of law it could; the ruling was about whether the parents could stop the 14 year old and the court found that parents have no right to tell their children not to have sex provided it be within the legal age of consent lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:32 AM
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There are many states in the US that have it lower than 18, and none that have it higher. It's not the default, but the extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 11:30 AM
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I honestly believe that everything that is legal should be legal to do for financial compensation so the same rules should apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:28 AM
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All of the examples I listed were consensual and did not involve coercion?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:11 AM
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The difference is that those places are poor as hell an not developed nations. Anglic countries that are all well developed nations all have in common that they have teen pregnancy rates that are comparable with developing nations See this list for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_teenage_pregnancy#Birth_and_abortion_rates,_1996 All the top are Anglic common law countries with the exception of Hungary which isn't a well developed nation Teen pregnanct rate in the US is 8 tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 09:09 AM
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Desire is necessary for sex. No it isn't. You can have sex for money, as a favour, to experiment, to try it, because you "feel like it" all of which does not constitute "desire"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:47 AM
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I think the situation we have here in the Netherlands is okay: 12 years old, or at the start of puberty, whichever comes first is the provisional age of consent at which point one can in theory have sex but "yes" can mean "no" and courts look at the circumstances to see if there was no psychological pressure involved and that kind of shit 16 years is "yes means yes" with the exception of formal differenes of power such as teacher/student, superiors at work, parent/child and stuff 18 is simply "y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 08:45 AM
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I personally spent $2500 on my PC. I’m not saying PC gaming is shit, I just don’t think it is the best experience. And I hate the larger library argument. Yea it has a large library but most games are shit. There are very few indie PC games worth buying, but consoles have their exclusives also. I will concede to the cheaper prices tho I feel like since I spent an additional $1900 of the device it kinda doesn’t offset the cost. And since I have both consoles and a powerful PC I feel like I’m qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:43 AM
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No option B doesn’t care if you sleep with others. He’s a BAY-TA male. Great, then B it is. spends thousands of dollars on a rig Have you ever seen any individual spend thousands of dollars on a PC? The truth of the matter is that you can build a better PC for the same price that a console costs because of the simple economics of size: console hardware will always be overcosted because it has to fit into a more portable size and that makes it more expensive. But the sky is the limit if you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:12 AM
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You have to watch a movie with him twice a week and have sex with him 3 times a week. So to be clear, whichever I choose I surrender my right to have sex with others? or only in the first case? Also not interested in sexual exclusivity? How old are you? 35 Edit: Console playing men are statistically better at everything in life (except first person shooters). It’s fact I wouldn't trust the intelligence of any individual that's such an irresponsible and technically illiterate consumer to actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 01:49 AM
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One is the man of your dreams, perfect height, weight, physique. He’s charismatic, great in bed, treats you exactly how you want to be treated except for one thing. He’s into polygamy. Has many women he sleeps with and won’t be in a relationship with you if you sleep with other men. The "man of my dreams" is not interested in "relationships" or sexual exclusivity and does not care about what I do with others. Caring about what others do in their own free time is such a huge turnoff. The other ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 01:16 AM
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Well this suddenly explains all the madness I keep reading on this sub about claims what entire genders want. They're reading highly political online articles and base their position on what entire genders want based on the claims of identity politics advocates... that suddenly makes quite a bit of sense to explain all these "women say this and that" posts when "women" should be replaced with "some random angry segment of identity politics that most individuals of the street have never heard of"…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:12 PM
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Women have made it pretty clear that they don't want emotional intimacy from a partner because that's something they reserve for their platonic female friends and they really wish men would do the same so women didn't have to be burdened by emotional labor. With that you mean that there is a nonzero number of individuals that are female and made that clear for them, no doubt. In any case I have no interest in being any individual's "girlfriend", "wife" or reproductive catalyst and certainly don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 02:10 PM
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I think it's a statement so vague that this very nice phrasing "It's not even wrong.". There's far worse than wrong in fact; there's "not even wrong"—a statement so vague its truth value can't be tested empirically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:10 AM
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Practically every modern man watches porn and practically every modern woman has a vibrator/toy. I'm pretty sure there are more modern females that watch porn than that have a vibrator. Vibrators are kind of rare compared to watching porn. I agree that porn is bad for young men because it desensitizes them I don't, nor do I consider it a problem if individuals become more desensitized to sex—like, what's the problem with that? Maybe the reason I'm so unintrested in real life sex is simply becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 05:12 AM
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That's because David Bowie isn't "feminine" but flamboyant. For whatever reason the word "feminine" is often used to describe flamboyant and campy males even though there's really nothing feminine about them. What individual would look at David Bowie and mistake it for a female? Consider for instance Kaoru Ōshima, a male that's not flamboyant at all but very easily mistaken for a female. If you are feminine in the "lacking masculine features" way, you basically dont exist in the eyes of women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 07:21 AM
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Yes among some; no among others. Like what are you asking here? Whether there is a nonzero number of individuals that hate it? I hear that even in the U.S., the worst thing a man fears is being feminine/non-straight and it can cost him respect not just when it comes to dating but in friendships, family, and even at work. Is this true? Even in the US? The US is probably known as the most religiously consevative and gender role obsessed place of the entire developed world. "feminine" is also a use…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 07:16 AM
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I hate dating—the sex of the other parties and their gender is not material to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 11:56 AM
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Why does this purge week even exist? To remind all that all this talk about "dating strategy" is merely a thin veil for being mad at femoids? Reminds me of when I still played StarCraft II and all the balance whining—it was always phrased as strategy and wanting to improve but it was really just about whining how the other two playable races had an easier time and not being inerested in solving anytihng.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:40 AM
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And 13-14% is a healthy body weight. But to show a sixpack one must go under 8% generally, which is unhealthy. I would believe all this stuff if all this talk about muscular stressed that a six pack shouldn't be visible. If I image search "ripped" all of them have a sixpack and are unhealthily low body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 07:08 PM
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Muhammad Ali didn't even have a sixpack. Klitschko Ruiz
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:20 PM
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Why even bother ever having a conversation aboht anything then? No, why even bother having a conversation on something that's predicated on a falsehood? It's like trying to have a conversation about how to gain energy from transporting heat from a cool area to a hot area—it's impossible and a useless talk. It's about identifying trends, if there are any in the first place. Then OP should have quantified it at the very least with percentages of what number is acceptable—which is also rarely done …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:17 PM
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Maybe a strongman's body is an indicator of genetic fitness. But this "muscular" stuff as in what's achieved by cutting body fat isn't. These aren't bodies build for performance and professional athletes look nothing like that. this is what genetic fitness looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 07:28 AM
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Genders do not have a single unified taste. That's the problem with this sub and trying to find the single unified rules that apply to an entire gender—you won't find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:10 AM
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So where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:05 AM
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"asking out" to much of the planet is some fictional event from American TV series man... It's not a thing that happens in many dare I say most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 01:11 AM
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Some are; some aren't, and the definition of "femininity” is very arbitrary. One thing I noticed is the bishōnen situation—a very popular male standard of beauty in East-Asia that many English-language analysists have described as "feminine"—but I'm not so sure that the East-Asians that keep featuring these characters in their films, television series and video games agree with that it's "feminine". I've never seen them referred to as such in said media and they seem to very often talk about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:01 PM
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Women of PPD: What general negative traits would you be willing to apply to women? You mean statistically? worse at maths shorter weaker less of a sense of humour no penis menstruates more quick to loose emotional cool more concerned with the approval of others less blunt Statistical averages don't mean shit to me either way though—the average human being lives underground, somewhere in between India and China, for one; the human being also has slightly less than one testicle, and I never met th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 12:11 AM
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If I wanted a family I wouldn't be what I am, but then I would prefer to be a single parent—the alpha or beta status is secondary to the fact that I do not want a co-parent. If "alpha" is simply code for "whatever I personally find attractive" then I doubt those genetics would do my offspring well, to be honest... I have a pattern of having sex with jaded cynics. Then again, I can't stand being around optimists so it would be better for my mental health if those I raised were jaded cynics. One o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:34 AM
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If you take one look at South Korea it seems like there's a far bigger female sexual response there and it's noted for being a culture where the beauty standards males are held to are as rigourous as those that females are held to. Not just the females in any case—places like r/starcraft ended up being very eroticizing about these South Korean male progamers and most of that came from males as if all they needed to start to find males attractive was males that applied skin cream, put some effort…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:17 PM
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I do not care about what any other individual on the planet does in its own free time. "my man" as you so call it can fuck a goat, watch child porn, and even run systemd in its own free time—I do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:03 PM
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If you're talking about this "bottled water" fad, in many places it can't even chemically be distinguished from tap water. Honestly, it feels like a fashion accessory to have a water bottle along more than anything the way it's marketed—it's the new monocle for those that have no medical need for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:01 PM
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But to the individual, water has the same value and purpose despite availability. No it hasn't: the value of anything goes up if it's scarcer. Male sexual attention apparently isn't scarce, so the value is low; if it were less scarce the value would be higher. Add in the fact that we see women struggle to get clean water consistently, and I think you see the exaggeration of your response. It turns out water is quite a bit more valuable in places where clean drinking water is scarce, yeah. People…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:50 PM
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Those same guys Seems to me that those that don't want to be compared to passt lovers are also most often the ones that think porn is bad and all that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:48 PM
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It's more like that that poster said "Water is everywhere and for free, so I don't care much if I am offered free water." And then you replied with "You'll change your mind when water is scarce." Yeah no shit, the entire point was that it wasn't valuable because it's plentifully available which would imply it would become more valuable if it weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:34 PM
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My thought experiment is that when men actually stop giving you attention, your life will be in crisis Yeah, and that poster said "Not much, because the bar or getting attention from men isn't very high". Evidenty the bar would be higher in your changed boundary condition eh.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:28 PM
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How much value do you place on getting female / male attention, compared to the other aspects of your life? Attention as in romantic/sexual attention. I don't much value sexual attention, and I don't much care about the gender that sexual attention comes form. Think about how much value you place on friendship, family, your health, certain hobbies and passions of yours. Then compare that to how much value you place on female/male attention. What do you say to that? In other words, how valuable i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:27 PM
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Westley pursued Buttercup against odds, but that was more of a comedy romance. So were the other two. Maybe your point is that men shouldn't pursue women unless they show a bit of interest, otherwise they deserve their fate. My point is simply that the male lead ending up with an arsehole female is just as common in male-targated romance as the gender-inverted situation is in female-targeted romance media. But that is I think a problem with gender relations. Women want to be pursued. Evidently s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 11:24 AM
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A tale as old as time and an annoying cliche plot point in shitty romance movies. A woman falls for the jerk who doesn’t treat her well while ignoring the nice guy (actual good men, not the neckbeards over on r/niceguys) Same thing happens in reverse in male targeted romance doesn't it? Louise Françoise de Blanc de la Valerière won at the end despite literally hurling explosions at Saito and starting out keeping the latter as a slave despite all the other far nicer candidates Saito could choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 02:27 PM
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The more attractive a man is, the more partners he has. The more attractive a woman is , the fewer partners she has. That's again your own conjecture and not something backed by research. The research shows nothing more than "bullies—regardless of gender—have more sex" and even goes out of its way to note that it's regardless of gender and you tie your own extra conjectures to that to turn it into a gendered claim to suit your agenda, all the while pretending that your claim was backed up by res…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 12:01 PM
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Ah, I see, so it isn't research that shows it but your conjectures.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 11:04 AM
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I read the first research in your first link. The poster claimed that "research shows females prefer males that are bullies" The actual research actually makes no gendered distinction whatsoever and only goes so far as that adolescents that bully have more sex. It doesn't even go on about whether they are preferred, simply that they have more sex—their more having it might entirely be due to more actively seeking it out. https://archive.is/ZGvcF The first link literally contains this paragraph: …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 09:32 AM
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Nothing in my wording is even talking about sex. But if you pick out one individual out of all the other options when the only thing you know about all those individuals is their looks, then you base your pick on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:11 PM
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What other reason do you have to pick someone out to "cold approach" if you know nothing but the looks of that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:38 PM
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No they weren't. They were coworkers, classmates, and all that stuff, not individuals that decided to talk to me because they like how I look.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:46 PM
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Nothing to do with any fear of murder—it's about time. If I don't know an individual I have no reason to talk to that individual and I'm probably doing something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:45 PM
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All one has to do is watch old television shows to see how common it is. Even a more contemporary show like "The Big Bang Theory" that is geared towards Generation X and older shows it happening, even if the younger generation doesn't do it as much anymore. That would be an American TV series that is thus about American culture. It doesn't really happen in Dutch TV series and many other North European places because there's a bigger culture of social distance there. Cold approaches really used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:44 PM
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Before the internet I think this type of thing was a lot more acceptable. I'm fairly certain this is a very cultural thing. In some cultures it's more acceptable to start small talk with strangers than in others. The rationale was that, how else were men and women going to meet? How would this be a gendered angle? How would individuals at all meet each other? what does this have to do with gender? It turns out human beings make contacts from work or school or whatever that doesn't involve approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 03:46 PM
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Good, more individuals should be antisocial and not approach strangers—that has nothing to do with gender and in many cultures approaching strangers simply does not happen much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:17 AM
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Men complain about being considered creepy for cold approaching too That's because approaching a complete stranger one has no business with is fairly creepy. Has nothing to do with gender—the only time I was possibly "cold approached" in my life for what I later realized might actually be some sexual move was by a female and I considered it unnerving, strange, and bizarre. What individual goes up to a total stranger to awkwardly try to make a conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:15 AM
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What is a "male perspective" about that? It makes perfect sense to me that yes if both the casual and the long term prospect want to have sex, but the former is getting it, that the former is being rewarded. I'm really not seeing a male perspective in this, but everything has to be made gendered I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:27 PM
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Guro toddler stuff of course, tentacles are optional. They're also big fans of Aki-Sora but that series is really one of a kind—it was so good that Tokyo had to make a law to ban its sale.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 09:15 PM
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Apparently not with those you like. That's the problem with going by one's own experiences and why it's useless. If I were to go by my own experiences with males then all males do something STEM-like, like being fucked up their arse, watch the most depraved drawn pornography you can think of, have long hair, like dreadlocks, and tell you bluntly to your face that they don't care when you're vulnerable to them. That's not "males"; that's "the males I like".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 08:16 PM
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That's the problem isn't it that most of the things they investigate are these "feeling terms" that elude a precise definition—that would be why sociology is not a hard science as in hard science terms have very strict and objective definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:00 PM
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And that is why we have a giant replication crisis in sociology and even if the results can be replicated it's not worth much. In sociology: what approximate synonym one uses to ask the question can utterly change the result. Especially with cross-country surveys and language barriers this is problematic since these terms often don't translate well between languages—there's really no way to say "dating" in my native Dutch and the words for "friend" and "boyfriend" are also the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 06:49 PM
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None—I don't like "dates", "hookups", or "relationships" and if I did I wouldn't be as obsessed about it with regards to gender as most of PPD anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 12:14 PM
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Few females suffer from hair loss, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 09:01 PM
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Why is Sweden not the west? Sweden is generally considered a "western" country, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 01:47 PM
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That is why I said 99% and not 100%. And yes, I definitely have noticed that Canadians do it far less and generally seem more aware of the differences that exist between their province and country and the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 01:46 PM
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I think this happens on the English speaking forums because, statistically, those participating in them are more likely to be American. Only about 35% of reddit traffic is from the US so a single post is more likely to not be than to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 01:45 PM
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I dislike to use the word "West" because it encompass many countries where far too many people live, so each experience might be different. 99% of the time you see the worst "west" on the internet it's an individual from the US that's talking about the US. My favourite one is when they say that in Japan they take off their shoes before entering a home but in THE WEST they keep their shoes on—most of the world knows keeping shoes on as a strange US idiosyncracy and they are taken off at almost al…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 12:16 PM
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I learned all those things in the Netherlands but I also felt it was very abolutist. We learned all about the clitoris and how important it was as well as the glans, but it was really purely about PIV and there was some small part about PIA sex but they pretty much told you that that was only for two males and there was really nothing about "what if two females have sex". Turns out my vagina is pretty much insensitive and I mostly enjoy anal sex and I feel those lessons damaged me more than help…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 12:14 PM
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Sweden isn't "the west"? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're from the US... In any case, I'm Dutch and I was indeed spared that nonsense about "boys are sex mad" yes, I in fact didn't really realize the US had such a conception until reddit I'd say when I was really exposed to US culture. I really did not go into puberty or adolescence with the idea that males are supposed to have a higher sex drive than females—I was never told that or informed of that. Apparently females in the US are…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 12:11 PM
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Yes, that's very common human behaviour. "When I do it, there's a reason why it's different."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 03:04 PM
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Yes, almost every individual does unethical things by almost any standard of "unethical".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 02:41 PM
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Which would be absurd. Why is this absurd? It's breaking one's implied word? Doesn't mean that one is legally obligated to, but it's no different from first saying you'll attend something and then backing out without a real intervening reason—you can't be forced but you won't be getting thank-you's for it either. Lying and giving false impressions is generally considered unethical, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 10:40 AM
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That too wouldn't surprise me. But even standing still there's a certain postureing involved like as Louis XIV does. Like when I stand still I pretty much stand like this, not like this
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:55 PM
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"looking good in a dress" is honestly not a function of body type but of having learned to walk and move in a certain way. I've often seen it remarked that Dutch females when they put on a dress essentially "look like a male in a dress"—I doubt they have different body types and it's mostly a function of socialization and how nothing stopped them in childhood from walking with wide strides in an efficient but unelegant manner—in many cultures young females are socialized to take small steps with…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:45 PM
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I didn't expect this meme to be referenced here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 04:05 PM
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More or les what I think about "girls and women" with soft and "feminine" features who can be mistaken for girls—nothing much really. The former group seems to have a penis so that makes their bathroom usage more efficient I guess so that's nice. Many people have prejudice against boys having long hair below the shoulders but I think that is wrong because if girls can look beautiful and pretty why can't boys? What's "many" here? It seems that all a male needs to do to be the talk of the town in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:58 PM
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I suppose you don't like it when guys have fat "beer" breasts and stuff... I don't like any breasts; it's not necessarily those that are built by fat, but also those built by muscle or mammary tissue; I simply like a flat chest—it's not a gender issue for me. Usually women love a V-shaped type of male body. Idk maybe you are not into swimming xD That's what the males that love them keep saying; the females that don't keep claiming otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:08 PM
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Attractive would be flat chests. Repulsive would be broad shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 02:23 PM
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Where are the statistics and research then? Because I looked for this "boarding school syndrome" and I could find no actual data gathering, numbers and research but only conjectures. You also say two loving parents but I do know of some research which turns out that individuals raised by single parents by choice are not doing any worse than individuals raised by two. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170705095332.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 05:02 PM
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Adoption is fine, you're still a failure as a parent, but at least you didn't just nope out and leave the other parent to pick up the slack. As I started this thread. I see nothing wrong with "failing as a parent". Individuals shouldn't be forced to be one due to blood relationships, or "children" for that matter. In your best judgement, do you think you experience emotions as most other do? I ask because if you think a government institution is the ideal scenario for child raising, you appear t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:34 PM
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You seem to equate leaving a child, someone who is unable to care for themselves, with leaving a friendship. Why? So you believe giving up to adoption should be illegal? that's what happens. It's not as if they're cast out on the street. Even if you yourself feel nothing for your parents or a theoretical child, you have to realize that is not even close to the norm, right? The norm doesn't concern me—slavery is the norm at various places and times. And leaving child is not the same as leaving a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 03:01 PM
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Please tell me you would actually follow through with your view and would abandon a child once you weren't "feeling it" anymore. I wouldn't become a legal parent—if I became pregnant I would abort; if I somehow didn't abort I would give it up for adtoption. I tire of dumbass statements where the people making them, follow it up with some "I wouldn't do it, but it's ok if someone does" bullshit when challenged. Well, I did in the reverse way. I cut ties with my parent because I wasn't feeling it …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 01:51 PM
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I don't understand the line of thinking that they won. If you don't pay child support/see your kid, you've abandoned your child, you've failed as a father and a man. Congratulations, you're a fuck up, take a bow. So what? What's the rule that one has to "succeed as a father and a man". No human being owes another human being love, time, and affection and gender and blood relationships play no part in that. You're not entitled to love from a spouse that can break up at any moment, and you're not …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 01:22 PM
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I don't care one bit about it. No human being owes another human being company, love, time spent, or affection, and gender and blood relationships play no factor in that my belief that no human being owes another any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 01:16 PM
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You'd be surprised how muddy most of this shit is in the actual practical real world rather than the dream world of identity politics where everything is simple and clear. On top of that, a little bit of alcohol goes a long way in opening new doors. This model of "Hurr durr, human beings are attracted to sexes, and if you're not attracted to a certain sex that means that no amount of alcohol can change that, and it also means that you're completely repulsed by the thought of having sex with that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:24 PM
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If a man is sexually attracted to women they aren’t gay, You don't need to be sexually attracted to an individual to have sex with said individual, and certainly not to do something that qualifies under the broad line of "cheating" which for many would already include certain cuddles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:17 PM
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Those who marry are almost always sentimental fools that execute an agreement they never understood because they like the label. Those that married and got divorce can't even follow up on their own foolishness. That beng said—marriage and alimony is a dumb legal construct and it turns out it's easy to avoid: don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 08:01 AM
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Any individual that cold appoaches another is desperate, judges on appearance, pushy, annoying, and what-not in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 07:43 AM
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Too short— As I said: chest length minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:50 PM
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I personally find hair to look all the better when it's not brushed. something like this or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:59 PM
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Men with longer and more beautiful hair than you do or men with shoulder lenght hair. Is this more attractive than short hair? Or most women like men with short hair? If so why? My guess on what "women" think is as good as yours—you can find some statistics here and there which seem to often conclude that slightly more than 50% prefer it. My own personal belief is that about any human being with hair shorter than around chest length looks hideous. What do you think of boys who have long hair who…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:57 PM
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I am not into "relationships" as I said; I do not pair-bond; I do not negotiate sexual exclusivity. The topic asked if I would prefer if humans mated for life. I said I didn't—without revealing my gender—and then you argued that it is "bad for women", which isn't applicable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:21 AM
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The point I am making is that splitting up actually benefits the man, especially if he was smart enough never to sign a marriage contract. Rejecting the idea of a life-long relationship is not a problem for a man who has his act together financially. At the same time, cutting short such relationship is bad news for women. I don't care about what's good or bad "for women"; I only care about what's good or bad for me. As it stands I'm not an individual that marries, gets into relationship or negot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 08:55 AM
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There is a notorious video interview featuring Kevin Samuels with a woman who wants advice on how to land a 6-figure man. This video went viral. The original one got over 1 million views: "You Look Average At Best. You're Gonna Die Alone" Dating Consultant Gives Woman A Savage Response When She Says She Wants A 6-Figure Man! https://worldstar.com/video.php?v=wshhl0vkpbMLOzA3XL3p Kevin Samuels does these videos every day. He's got women calling them, and even "booking a paid session" for a one-on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 08:23 AM
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I'm mid-thirties—is that old enough? I do not, and never had, any desire to "find" a "high value male"; I do not "pair-bond" and if I did the sex of the individual I did so with and its "value" would be the least of my concerns—my biggest concern would be finding an individual that leaves me alone if I had to "pair-bond".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:41 AM
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I didn't promise data. You promised studies that showed things about caveman socities. You have not given me studies; you have given me your conjecture built upon another's conjecture. I told you that the studies show that there was no polyandry and if anything we were more polygynic. Which they do. There is no serious expert claiming that they were polyandrous. You have cited absolutely no studies; you have cited conjectures one individual made, which don't even touch upon cavemen, onto which y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:16 AM
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https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Mean-Standard-Deviation-for-the-anthropometric-measurements-identified-by-stepwise_tbl2_235133071 This one doesn't include wrist of which I would like to have a source because that sounds weird, but it does have ankle, so I'm just using American ankles here. So if we calculate that in [whatever normal distribution calculator(]http://onlinestatbook.com/2/calculators/normal_dist.html) we can find. We indeed find that the female mean is located at 26.6 percentile…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:14 AM
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So what? You promised me data that showed it. What you came with was conjecture and induction that "showed" it; those are two different things. It's the difference between promising incontrovertible video evidence of that an individual committed the crime, and instead of that when asked coming with inductive, circumstantial reasoning as to why you believe said individual committed the crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 05:11 PM
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True, but those wouldn't exist either according to the theory. The hypergamy thing is an "AWALT" trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 03:53 PM
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Yes, but that goes against the theory that supposedly females would be willing to share but not be willing to be shared and would always simply go for the linear "top" of all available bidders.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 03:36 PM
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.... The whole article was about how the evolution of our species points to polygyny. So? It didn't actually cite any recordings of caveman societies pacticing polygyny and not polyandry, which is what your claim was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 02:30 PM
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Not only does that article claim that humans are also polyandrous, but your original claim was about caveman societies which that article does not go into. It indeed points out that of all studied societies, half legally allowed polygny, half did not, and 1% allowed both polgyny and polyandry, but the point of contention was what would happen if both were allowed, not how many societies allow both, all the while pointing out that there's probably a reason why not many societies that made laws on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 01:51 PM
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What makes you think that as far as I know the consensus is otherwise. I mean come on dude... the entire human female reproductive system is designed to obscure the identity of the paternal parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 01:31 PM
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Of course not. Look at any anthropology study ever. You mean in societies where polygny was legal and polyandry wasn't? Gee. Makes you wonder why polyandry had to be illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 01:12 PM
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Nope— I have no desire to be perpetually bound via some mechanism to the first individual I had sex with—as is rather common, that individual and I no longer really speak to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 12:06 PM
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Every single thing one might do about one's appearance is "attention seeking" in the same way. Apparently aesthetic choices you personally don't like are "attention seeking" only.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 12:02 PM
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One small look at the polyamory community reveals that the natural result is polyandry. It's a pretty common situation when some opposite sex couple "opens their marriage" what always happens: the female quickly finds many males that are all quite willing to share that one female but the male takes far more time to find any females that are interested in sharing. It seems to me that males are more okay on average with sharing than females are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:49 AM
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Ah, so it only applies to "women's shirts" and not "women's t-shirts"? again, no pockets There are no pockets for the breasts as that would stop it from being folded; the material simply stretches; it would also make the construction process far more difficult since they're simply made from flat layers of cloth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:43 AM
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They're also made with darts etc to accommodate chest size. No they aren't; they're usually just made of flat fabric, if they actually had pockets they couldn't be folded as they can. this is a female shirt lying flat on the floor, there are no pockets to accomodate breasts; the fabric simply stretches
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:02 AM
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I have really big boobs. In order to get a man's shirt that fits around my chest, I need to go up so large that it literally drowns me everywhere else. I use one of my step dads old shirts when I'm dying my hair- it fits just nice around my chest, but goes to my knees and I have to roll up the sleeves about a billion times before I can use my hands. And my partner is slim and short. Despite his broader shoulders and my narrower waist, I still can't button his shirts over my tits. And again, male…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:56 AM
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They aren't at all. When I was a kid I used to quite often wear boys clothes because I preferred them, but with hips and breasts and on average shorter height it just doesn't work. Males have a higher average chest circumference than females so this is a load. The wider ribcage of males offsets the breasts so really, if anything males shouldn't be able tof it into female shirts if it worked that way. At the end o the day though it doesn't work like that either way because shirts an clothing are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 05:54 AM
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What is now "female clothing" has its basis in mostly originally male high-fashion for the rich. It started with rich males, then rich females copied them, and then rich males stopped doing it. It was never designed around practicality—that's the reason. Until quite recently in Eurogenetic cultures young males were also put into dresses with lace and ribbons and all that stuff before they were "breached" which was the point of having to wear practical clothes because they started working. this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 05:51 AM
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The differences in male and female bodies as a statistic are unimodally distributed with the exception of primary sex characteristics, not bimodally. Pretty much all secondary sex characteristics are unimodally distributed, often in about 1/3s, meaning that the lowest 33% of females would be higher than the average male, such as in height or shoulder width or waist/hip ratio or chest or arm circumference etc. With the exception of the genital area where a case could be made, though flacid penes …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 05:47 AM
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And how is "stable" defined again? If it's purely about splitting up then yeah I can understand that: one of the reason marriage is so foolish is because it makes splitting up harder when you actually want to and can lead to significant loss of capital. It's like saying prison leads to a stable address...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 04:46 AM
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The research showed that counties in the U.S. with more men than women generally had higher rates of marriage, fewer births outside marriage and fewer single female heads of household — all of which are generally signs of greater family stability, according to the researchers. So basically "family stability" is purely defined as "more individuals marry"/ You might as well call it an indication of "more individuals make dumb business deals because they like the label" then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 01:01 AM
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I don't believe there is an aspect of my gender or of any gender. Every time I see one of those reddit threads about "what of your gender does the other gender need to understand better" I'm mostly just "Well, that's just you" and I don't necessarily share it. There aren't aspects of genders, just individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 02:48 PM
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"Some do; some don't." What even is this question? "GUYS, GUYS, DO YOU THINK WOMEN LIKE THE COLOUR PURPLE?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 03:57 AM
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So what? Let's even assume for sake of argument that that instinct exists but I have rationally concluded that reproduction will worsen my quality of life—as it turns out following one's instincts rather than rational reasoning often leads to a worse outcome. The first instinct when there's a grease fire is to also poor water on it—very bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:23 PM
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It makes sense cause firefighters pretty much embody what it is to be a man (big, strong, brave, protectors, etc) Nonsense. The most manly job in existence is gay for pay porn star—there is nothing manlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:18 PM
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Yeah WTF... You're paying me for time and inconvenience here, not for eggs. They're cells, I loose skin cells every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 01:32 AM
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Male pattern baldness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:42 AM
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If you're aware that you're doing it you can probably take certain reality checks to yourself. Be critical of yourself and wonder whether you've really seen those things you believe exist, or that you just want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:57 AM
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I don't see how Tom kept up the illusion he had of Summer as this pixie girl next door who was made for him when her actions showed that she liked to sleep around and didn't value a relationship. That's the point. Tom ignored all that and was never in love with Summer but in the idealized image of Summer that only existed in Tom's mind. Also, at the end of the day, Summer probably had the same fantasy about the guy she ended up marrying. Wouldn't surprise me, because Summer is also very naïve—th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:56 AM
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Sex, drugs, rock & roll, world domination, invent nuclear fusion—in no particular order.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:43 AM
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Being married is like being a leader: any individual that wants to be shouldn't be. Marriage is business; almost any individual that gets married does so over emotion rather than business reasons; don't do business over emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:42 AM
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IT's gender politics. Gender politics like any other identity politics always takes a general problem and turns it into a specific one because those that practice it only care when a general problem affects the in-group. I'm not even sure if "MPDG" is a gendered term any more; I've seen it referred to male characters as I have "Mary Sue" and it's really about as common though I've definitely noticed that when it concerns a male character it's simply not called that. There was a CMV about this a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:47 PM
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but the Netherlands isn't the entire world either. The point is that there is no universal "male" or "female" experience and that location, age, race, culture, wealth, and all those other things come into play. I'm not even sure it's so endemic to the entire US. I've seen many compelling statistic arguments about the US that point out that when they speak of "female" in such situations what they really mean is "white, 20-30 upper-middle class female" and that many of those things don't even appl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:05 AM
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Well, if you're anything like the women that I know; you may THINK you're being treated the male way but you're not. You don't know what it's like to be removed from your own house by the cops because of a domestic dispute that you called 911 over. Quite right, because I don't live with any other individual and never will. Apart from that the Netherlands doesn't know a "duluth model" and that shit doesn't happen here at all, and if anything the stereotype in the Netherlands when the word "domest…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:38 AM
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And yet every time they come with a list of things about how individuals are supposedly treated on their gender I find that I more often get treated in the "male way" than in the "female way". In fact, since most of this talk is from the US, it wouldn't even surprise me if most Dutch individuals of either sex are more so treated in the "male way" simply because that's the cultural difference and most Koreans of either sex in the "female way".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:05 AM
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Definitely the case that very often one can find similar ideas rebranded. I'm still waiting for the explanation of what exactly the difference between "postmodern" and "nihilism" but I guess "postmodern" is what "critical theory leftists" call it and "nihilism" is what "goth kids" call it and "epistemological scepticism" is what "philosophers" call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:17 AM
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What does this have to do with "female"? It's just a word for "things one does affect one's reputation" or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:16 AM
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I'm a woman and I'm totally not privy. if a girl sits through an hour of emotional labor for her friend bitching and venting she's gonna be entitled to an hour of emotional labor from her Wtf is this shit? I don't sit through an hour of friends bitching? I've got better things to do and thank god I lack friends that come to me or most likely any individual with one side of any story—if they ever should come with a problem they would at least try as hard as they could to tell both sides so that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:14 AM
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Title IX specifically refers to programs that receive federal funding for education, this is the title of the topic, not 'arbitary'. And title IX isn't about sexual harassment and assault. This is about the separate issue raised by OP about that—Title IX has absolutely nothing to do with sexual assault which is illegal seperately. Not denying those in family things and women attacked in a park alone, there is however hysteria amongst college girls and their behaviour on campus, this is the title…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:00 AM
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Ah, so the "BS" isn't individuals getting raped but an arbitrary type of hysteria you want to stop. Silly me, thinking that you actually cared about rape. I'm not even sure what this has to do with court cases because the 80% of rape cases that are perpetrated by non-strangers also go to courts
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:48 AM
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That is in no way implied by the words "social" and "matrix". It's simply used to make it sound more fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:47 AM
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Lol— The individuals that are the most likely to rape any female are said female's spouse, parents, or other close relatives. Apart from that you severely underestimate how common male/male rape is and female/female rape isn't that uncommon either. "stranger rape", is very, very uncommon compared to "familiar rape", most rape victims are intimately connected with the rapist. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:18 AM
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"female social matrix"? is this really just a fancy term for "a women's circle" to make it sound posh and complicated and thus more "legitimate". In any case: as usual it depends on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:13 AM
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The problem with sexual harassment and assault is that they are often he said/she said situation. That makes them very hard for the legal system to handle. But the cure of making a special exception for these crimes is worse than the disease. So are many other things such as threats or otherwise privately admitting to a crime and then later denying it. In many jurisdictions if it's the defendants word against the word of another with no further evidence the defendant walks as a matter of law. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:08 PM
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What do they do instead? Bench trials like most places in the world? As you can see, pretty much any place with Jury trials is a former colony of the British Empire because they came up with the absolutely bizarre idea of letting complete laymen decide fact in court cases and no other country wants to touch that crap. Japan actually had it or 20 years in the early 1900s as an experiment and they stopped because they gave defendants and option and no defendant would pick it because of the widespr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:05 PM
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I see no reason to make special exceptions for this compared to how it works in every other criminal or civil court case—I don't support "rape shield laws" which don't exist in other accusations. I think the general US principle of capability of convicting on a single witness is weird though: the US actually executes on the word of a single witness—where I live there's a statutory burden for any crime involving jail time that a single witness isn't enough and as a matter of law there is always r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:34 AM
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So what if one isn't interested personally in the "provider" at all, as long as said "provider" provides semen and money that allows for raising children as a homemaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:31 AM
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I don't care about "sexes" finding me attractive, opposite or same. I only care about the specific individuals I might want to have sex with finding me attractive—the rest is of no concern to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:37 AM
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And that still doesn't answer why breaking this agreement is so much worse than breaking any other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:12 PM
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If ever I made the agreement that another human being can have sex with no other individual but me, I wouldn't care one bit if they broke that agreement. I don't really care what others do in their own free time when I'm not around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:59 AM
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When you are dating someone, the point is they chose you to be with, they care about you and love you, you are supposed to be the sexiest and hottest to them along with the kindest and most loving. Holy unrealistic fantasy world Batman. No, some random Instagram model is going to be hotter anyway. When someone cheats that tells the betrayed that they aren’t good enough, that they aren’t attractive, they aren’t good in bed. No it doesn't; it tells that an agreement was broken. You can bet your bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:04 AM
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Having looked at your profile pics (as you have asked others to do) Reddit has profile pictures now? Holy shit it's actually there on the "redesign"> This website is trying harder and harder to be social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:38 AM
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I don't get why breaking the agreement of "I won't have sex with any other individual than you" is put on such a high pedestal. It's a broken agreement; there are worse broken agreements out there and I really don't get why this one is so important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:23 AM
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My experience rarely matches women on this sub and other women in certain subs. My experiences of what this sub say posts say never matches what I read. I see 1000 reddit posts of "females say this; males say that, blbalbalba" before I ever see a post that actually says it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:53 PM
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Why do so many act as if porn is special in this? Fiction creates unrealistic expectations; it's called the "CSI Effect" where many jurors in the US were found to have unrealistic expectations of forensic technology due to fiction—it happens with everything but somehow porn is often talked about as bad because it creates "unrealistic expectations". It does, just like everything else including every non-pornographic film also creating unrealistic expectations of the aesthetic value of human being…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:50 PM
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Perhaps there are, but most of the issues described there are not issues that a "large majority of women" go through—at max ultra gender conformant 20-30 year old white ones living in the US. It's common on reddit to forgot that not all are 20-30 yea old white and living in the US it yeah...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:27 PM
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It's extremely acceptable for males to do so and every famous male celebrity and whatever else goes on TV is made up before the cameras roll. What you mean is "visible makeup".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 12:47 AM
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Ehh, Bob Marley's dreadlocks were very thick, so were Jason Momoa's. Both look like neglect to me in how chaotic they are, how there are holes in them and how they often split up and form branches. There are entire communities on the internet dedicated to this style and how much they like it—I very much disagree with your opinion that they are as unpopular as you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:15 PM
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I don't know whether this is the place to ask the question but here goes, I've been reading up on sexual fantasies held by men and women. It seems to me that it's not uncommon for women to desire rough sex/have rape fantasies even though they'd never want to be raped. Similarly, many men have fantasies about dominating another woman. As far as statistics go, in both sexes passive rape fantasies are more common than active and in both around 50%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_fantasy So now …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:12 PM
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Bob Marley's hair was neglect, and that's a cultural icon. I think I'll manage and I've never noticed this line drawn; my hair seems to be an asset in the goal of having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:45 PM
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Apparently not, given how popular say Jack Sparrow or several characters from the Matrix were in terms of looks—not to mention the style icon that was "The Freestyer Guy". But then again: the network executives also said that Jack Sparrow couldn't be popular: in fact, they said it of Ronon Dex at first for this reason and when the character's hair became so popular but the actor wanted to cut it off they didn't allow it and sewed it right back on because it became too iconic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 02:19 PM
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Ever noticed the extremely heavily correlation between tribalism and caring much about the opinions of others? I mean it obviously makes sense that those that want to belong with a group would and it's kind of an obvious idea but it's kind of funny to see how much all those individuals that really care about their "identity" and stuff and like to draw tribalist, absolutist lines are also ways so concerned about their appearance and whether others like them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:47 PM
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No, not at all. Knee length tangled hair which' tangles allowed it to exceed its normal terminal length.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:34 PM
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No individual understands any life but their own. They won't understand what it's like to constantly have your guard up. I'm female; I don't have that and you will find that many males say in warring areas of civil unrest do. They don't understand why we feel insecure when we see airbrushed supermodels in every form of media. Yet I don't feel that and don't care about it whatsoever; and I've read comments on the internet from males that do. They'll never understand what it's like to have to put …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:19 PM
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So what? the individual you're talking to doesn't feel that way. It's almost as if what one finds easier to communicate with is an entirely personal matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:32 AM
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Of course they aren't, because sexual orientations are complete pseudoscience but some party at one point decided that one should call oneself "heterosexual, bisexual, or homosexual" but nowadays "heteroflexible" and "homoflexible" provide some greater granulatity. In pretty much any research worth the slighest salt they use the "Kinsey scale" which instead of 5 values they make it 9, which is still arbitrary, why not 100? from 0 to 100? the point is still that you, or some specialist, arbitrari…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:43 AM
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I... don't. I don't date males and I don't date females either. Apart from that, even if I were to date, one can't control what one falls for in the end—it's not like I make some decision of "Well, I'd like to fall in love with an individual with these properties next." One meets another; stuff happens; yadiyadi. Hell, even your orgasm is not guaranteed with a man. I never got the "orgasm metric" for quality of sex; if that were the indicator then masturbation would probably be better than sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:36 AM
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No it doesn't; it simply depends on what party decides to sit still and what party decides to move. What you say makes no sense physically speaking. A male can lie down and be completely still and not do anything and a female on top of it do everything if they happen to agree to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:19 PM
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Physically that makes no sense. You can hold a a foot still and wrap a sock around it, or you can hold a sock still and put a foot into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 07:09 PM
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The entire narrative of r/sex, r/purplepilldebate r/askmen, /r/TwoXChromosomes and pretty much any part of the "gendersphere" is that when a male and female have sex that the male should "please" the female, be the active party, dictate everything, and if anything is less than satisfactory for either party, either the male did something wrong, or is suffering from some bodily defect. Essentially females are to lay there, do nothing, and males are responsible for their enjoyment, as well as for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:32 PM
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>this male polygyny stuff. Take one look at the polyamory community and conclude that in a free system the result isn't ale polygny but female polyandry—it tends to end up with few females having many males.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 08:45 PM
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Hypergamy applies to pretty much every human individual in every case not just about dating but about everything. It's a convoluted way to say "humans tend to want the best thing they can possibly get", gee.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 11:40 PM
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If this ridiculous principle were actually extended outside of sexual morality there would be no concept of contract law and tort law and estoppel law and whatever else. The goddamn reason that contract law exists, that marriage exists, is because is because the world would go to hell if human beings had to rely on trust rather than the government enforcing agreements. Trusting another human being is stupid as hell when you can have a system where the government enforces binding agreements. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:42 PM
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Do these factors even matter at all? I legitimately do not care. The only time I use the word "man" which isn't often; I use it in the gender neutral sense. I only sometimes use the word "male" which is a clearer concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 05:50 PM
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Nope—these are internet memes on gendersphere subreddits—nothing I actually encounter in life where there is no "red pill" or "incel" or "dating market" or whatever else that any individual discusses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:35 PM
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I would never "LTR" any individual. Don't really care about any other individual's wealth of frugality—I make it a policy to not be involved in the financial matters of another. also need to show it off and spend money on status symbols for the woman? Like what? You mean ornaments that broadcast how much they cost so that you can let the world know how much money you no longer have? I think the thing about Dutch culture, by and large, is that by broadcasting how money you no longer have your sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:32 PM
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Depends on if the straight man finds the other man repulsive? There's a very big gap between "being attracted to" and "being repulsed by" you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 11:48 PM
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I'm sure there is a nonzero number of individuals that are both female and experience problems in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 04:49 PM
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Again, the ratings are not based on what the subjects consider to be "average" The ratings are based on "do you want to match with this individual". If you give a rating of of N stars and above and the other does too, then you get a match. You keep assuming that a rating of 4 on this 7 point scale means "I consider you perfectly average" it doesn't; it means "I want to match with you"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:47 AM
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What lies in between the best and worst? Right, the average. No it doesn't—that's where you're wrong. "least attractive" could be average, "most attractive" could also be average in theory "most attractive" could be severely below average. If you got 50/100 points on a test, that doesn't mean you did average—it's entirely possible you did far worse, or far better than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 09:32 PM
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Yes, it says most and least, not "more than average" and "less than average". A rating in the middle on this graph doesn't mean the rater considers one "average" any more than jury giving a figure skater a 5/10 means that it was "average" when the jury would give most a 0/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 06:13 PM
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There are no averages in that graph. They weren't asked to rate individuals on "below average" or "above average" but on "how much are you willing to match with this individual".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:58 PM
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Even on incel boards the majority consensus is that they wouldn't fuck any overweight female and in some cases females with unshaven legs. It has less limits than female thirst, but it definitely has very obvious limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:22 PM
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That statistic has nothing to do with whether they consider anything average. The way I read the research is that at time if you gave any other user above a certain rating you would match with that user. You could rate them from 0 to 5 stars or something and 4 and up was a match. It doesn't imply in any form that the raters considers what they call a 3 to be "average", just that they have no interest in a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:19 PM
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Firstly I don't even believe in either of your assumptions: most human beings aren't pre-occupied with "dating" to begin with—that's only a minority. But apart from that the two narratives you present don't contradict each other at all: If some random individual on the street, even a good looking one would "ask me out" and I don't know that individual I would always reject that individual. If I had gotten to know that individual in another context I might have grown quite fond but I'm not going …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:18 PM
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I suppose if one has very unusual tastes that are very unpopular one can make that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 10:28 PM
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read it for yourself, I suppose The gender differences in the US aren't that large, and for both around half do not wish to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 07:41 PM
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i wouldn't enter a relationship at all with any individual. But I'll say the same to this as I often say to such questions: I don't believe a "genderbent version of oneself" is something that makes sense as a constructable artefact. There is no bijective function between male and female that maps every male to exactly one female—I simply put don't know what "the genderbent version of myself" would be: there are so many questions this doesn't answer: I don't know what this individual's face would…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 07:54 PM
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Okay, so what does it mean for something to be considered immoral or unethical then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:30 PM
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I'm not even sure whether I consider murder or rape immoral or unethical—at the very least it doesn't invoke a passionate emotional response in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:12 PM
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No, the article I was talking about was written by a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 07:07 PM
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Some do, and some males do, but yeah, I noticed this mentality in some. I even read an article once on Linus Torvald's notoriously aggressive way of phrasing things that called it sexist, all the while admitting that Linus doesn't seem to treat males and females differently and is simply very vitriolic, but still claimed that this was sexist because females "perceive it differently" It was written by a male, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:58 PM
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I think the reality is that they probably use a variety of visual cues to estimate expertise, gender being one of them. If you show up and you "look like you know a thing or two about cars" they won't try to swindle you and if you're ignorant—as determined by both looks and your comments—then they do. I'm sure that they attempt to swindle males that by other means appear ignorant just as hard and gender is probably a factor they use to make an estimate, but one of many, and one that can easily b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:54 PM
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Because males spent more time on their body there. It's pretty clear to me that this shit of "I think female bodies are so much more aesthetically pleasing" is simply "Females have higher grooming standards" And then they suddenly get introduced to KPop and see these male pop stars having a longer regimen, not to mention the plastic surgery of Anglic females and their perspective suddenly changes. Back when I still visited r/starcraft, that place was very andro-erotic for how male dominated it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:46 PM
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Female bodies have hair too when it's not shaven. What they mean to say is "I find human beings that take more care of grooming their body to have better looking bodies"—yeah duh. I have actually heard from many sources that most women find the male body to be ugly and less attractive then the female body. Is that true? No doubt if they live in the Anglosphere where males have notoriously low grooming standards compared to females—that's not about male bodies, that's about grooming standards. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:24 PM
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It existing—I don't do relationships and if I ever were to get in some someone I would end it. I live my life; you live yours. It's mine; you can't have it: mine; mine; mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:17 PM
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Brother me? It's a drop in the bucket of random gender expectations—it doesn't really bother me any less or more than companies not hiring males with long hair or females with short hair. It happens; it's everywhere; if I'd let it get to me I'd be perpetually bothered. I simply personally tend to not socially with such individuals as I find the time not rewarding but it's really no better or worse than all the other gender expectations many individuals have of their offspring—and none of those I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 06:41 PM
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Yet all individuals I had sex with are quite introverted and mostly keep to themselves and "approaching" is—thankfully—not a common thing in the culture I live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 09:33 AM
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That's true, and then what? Like, what's the downside?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/20 08:24 AM
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But with men, there are certain (mostly physical) characteristics that make men attrated to women. Such ass: Boobs, ass, not much weight, etc. This makes men instantly attracted to women. Having bore witness to many a flamewar about whether flat or breasts are the ideal among them I'd disagree with this universal statement. Most of my friends are not exactly attractive neither rich but they all have had girlfriends. And females without boobs, ass, and not much weight don't? Which characteristic …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 09:49 PM
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Even if you could compress attractiveness level into one single scalar value: very different looking males of the same attractiveness level still lead very different lives and are treated very differently on their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 05:04 PM
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My point is: what body. What would my body look like? everything would change based on that. Just as everything would change if I happened to have a completely different female body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:55 PM
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I find this question nonsensical as it would depend what male I would be. There is no simple bijective function between all males and all females that would answer what male it would be. There's this comic book about some gender-swap virus pandemic that spreads by kissing but the thing is that the swaps take place purely on genitals and breasts it seems with all those affected keeping their exact original face and height to the point that they can often keep their old clothes with relatives not …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 04:17 PM
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IF 30% is unemployed it simply means that the claim that "only the top is employed and the rest is fighting for scraps" is false. The top is employed, and the middle is employed then, and only the bottom is unemployed and fighting for scraps. And in this case it goes further than that because that 30% here can still be heaving sex; it's simply that the 70% is guaranteed upper bound. Your wording suggests that only the top 20% is having sex at any regular interval which is just completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 07:24 AM
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I had a friend that did that yeah for pure sport; I also had a friend that for pure sport would win the hearts of individuals, instantly dump them, and and then tried to get them back and repeat and see how many times they would actually fall for it. I must admit that as much as I'm not an arsonists that sets buildings on fire, when one's burning I sure as hell take a moment to enjoy the sight—it was quite intriguing in both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 09:29 PM
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Okay, let's talk about relationships then. In the USA, 60% of adults are cohabitating with a domestic partner; I assume many more are in a relationship but not living together There is no crisis; there is no problem—most US adult males are in a relationship and having sex and the common man on the street does not experience a sexual crisis or frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 08:58 PM
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I often see talks about some "sexual market crisis" here implying that 80% of males die a virgin or something. Apparently in the US after the age of 25, only 5% is still a virgin, and after 30 it is 0.3%. There are some really strange conceptions about this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 06:29 PM
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Because both aren't giving advice as much as thinly veiled tribalistic rants about the other sex. Any individual seriously trying to give advice would ask significantly more questions before giving it. As a general rule of thumb in life: advice-givers that aren't interested in trying to understand the specific situation aren't interested in giving good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 02:56 PM
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It's probably easier to tell of individuals that wonder these things and are conscious of it, and even then they will probably simply appear as nervous and I wouldn't immediately start to wonder about their prior sex life or the nonexistence thereof as the proximate cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/20 02:52 PM
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I've certainly seen it, and I think most reasonable individuals know it's optimistic wishful thinking. Some individuals also believe in horoscopes, or that there's some all-powerful, well-willing being that watches over them as they make calls on their phone stuff with material won by slavery from the poor over which this all-powerful, well-willing being also watches. Some individuals are rather optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 03:19 PM
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