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A lot of the red pill centers around a fear of powerlessness. Your partner is a separate individual free to make their own choices and that can be scary at times. It means they can leave you at any minute. They can cheat on you. They can do these things for reasons that aren't fair or rational. Dread game is a method that allows red pillers to feel in control of those scary uncontrollable possibilities. If you are commanding the fear of your partner you are ensuring they would never dare do anyt…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 01:57 PM
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The thing is the red pill presents these behaviors as universal among all women. When really it is a minority of women that are particularly narcissistic who do behave in a way that resembles how the red pill describes them. One of the ways the red pill propagates itself is that it selects for narcissistic people. When someone takes the red pill strategies to heart and fully enacts those strategies they push away every woman except the ones that are exceptionally narcissistic, insecure, low self…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/26 10:55 PM
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Why would it? Sex is unique to each person. If someone loves you they will work with you to be as sexually compatible as possible. The insecurity with body count, I find, is a belief that she has surely had sex with someone who is "better at sex" than whoever her current partner is. The thing is there is no universally agreed upon standard for "better at sex" Every person has their own standards and interests when it comes to sex. No one is universally good at sex with everyone. So no, you shoul…
/r/ExRedPill10/02/26 10:42 PM
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They are the product of an abusive household and they clearly never healed from that. Andrew Tate is bald voluntarily because when he was a child his mother wanted to take him to get a haircut. His father learned of this and went on a rant about how getting a haircut was feminine and only women care about their hair. Then he sat Andrew down and forcibly shaved all of his hair off. This is a story that Andrew himself told about his father. And Andrew was portraying it as the correct way for a fat…
/r/ExRedPill28/01/26 09:05 PM
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You're hitting on something very human here. Yes sharing your vulnerabilities literally does make you vulnerable... So imagine how much you would trust and care for someone who knows all of your vulnerabilities and never exploits them. How connected, then, would the two of you feel if the two of you openly shared your deepest vulnerabilities, fears, and insecurities in full honesty and mutually chose to protect and love one another regardless? These are the risks inherent to human love and conne…
/r/ExRedPill22/12/25 10:27 AM
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There is no objective hierarchy of desirability. No wonder people don't like you. Do you really think a good relationship can be built upon "you are beneath me, I am above you" You don't want a partner you want someone to serve you.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 06:07 PM
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Part of your problem is that you saw those women as beneath you. You're not as great as you think you are.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 06:04 PM
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That's absolutely absurd. I have been rejected by women and dated other women. Keep sucking on that black pill and you'll never see happiness.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 05:19 PM
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Desirability is subjective. It may be true that certain traits are seen as less desirable by a wider proportion of people but dating isn't about being attractive to everyone. If you have conventionally attractive traits you will be more outwardly appealing to more people but that doesn't mean you aren't desirable to anyone. Being conventionally attractive doesn't guarantee good and fulfilling relationships either. Someone who is attractive might have more relationships but quantity is not the sa…
/r/ExRedPill22/10/25 05:16 PM
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I think for the best possible outcomes we need to restructure how boys and men conceive of personal value. A lot of men internalize that the greatest possible validation of their value comes from the attention of women. This leads to a vicious cycle of insecurity where they see no value in themselves, they try to get attention from women to feel valuable, then women (usually) don't want them because they don't project any value. If we teach boys that value comes from within and how to generate t…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/25 03:29 PM
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Why would they need to abort if they aren't having sex??
/r/ExRedPill28/08/25 06:53 PM
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Approximately 62% of adult men in the United States are fathers. Can you explain how that could be true if only 20% of men are having sex?
/r/ExRedPill28/08/25 06:29 PM
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Sure but where does that come from? If my life is lonely and without pleasure what do I have to look forward to and be happy about?
/r/ExRedPill26/08/25 02:17 AM
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What incels and red pillers want is the magic key that simplifies their problems and reveals what they have been missing their whole lives. Biological essentialism is nice for that because it gives a sweeping one-size-fits-all solution that is (supposedly) baked into the very DNA of humanity. If they can look at animals and say "animals tend to mate with the largest and boldest of the pack therefore the same can be said for humans" it removes all of the annoying nuance involved. Even if that is …
/r/ExRedPill19/08/25 05:25 PM
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First point: Yes I would say so. I'm always thinking of better ways to express this issue so maybe not in those exact words but yes I have been speaking with my therapist about this and I'll probably express something similar to my comment to her next session. Second point: I have this issue where I aspire to do things and I fight through doubt that I can achieve it then, for whatever reason, when I do acheive it it has little to no effect on my self esteem or sense of worth. Just in this past y…
/r/ExRedPill12/08/25 04:15 AM
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I am a lonely man struggling with self worth, maybe someone here can help me unwind these thoughts. I definitely am caught in the "never enough" validation-seeking trap and I recognize it's a trap that's bad for me but I can't understand how to escape it. It seems paradoxical to me: I have value and worth as I am, but I'm not seeing the results I want to see. So where am I supposed to find the evidence that proves my worth to myself? How am I supposed to believe I am a catch and women want me wh…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/25 05:11 AM
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I think she wasn't laughing AT your body but trying to share a moment of levity with you. That said, I totally understand why you would react this way. I think from her perspective flaccid penises are funny looking to her regardless of how big or small they are. From your perspective she was mocking a vulnerable part of your body.
/r/ExRedPill05/08/25 09:17 PM
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I would say recognize that just because someone is in a happy relationship doesn't mean they fell into it easily. Maybe for some people it was effortless, but most people had to do some amount of work on themselves before they got to a place where they could thrive in a happy relationship. That applies to both men and women. Also you don't always know a couple is happy just because you see them holding hands or whatever. Maybe publicly they look happy but they could be on the verge of a breakup …
/r/ExRedPill01/08/25 05:26 AM
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A core component of right wing philosophy is that bodily pleasures are morally wrong. They think that bodily pleasures distract from your human purpose which to them means working and reproducing (and sometimes worshipping God depending on who you ask) This is why they are against drugs, abortion, birth control, homosexuality, porn, and masturbation, among other things. They view abortion and birth control as allowing for sex that is purely for pleasure which they view as wrong. They are against…
/r/ExRedPill22/07/25 02:34 PM
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I suppose that's true. I don't mean to imply that men have it worse when it comes to dating, more just describing why the lack of hookups and dating app matches can make men insecure about their desirability.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/25 03:46 PM
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I think that is painful for a lot of men though. Sure most of us could get into long term relationships and those are great but if a man isn't "hot enough" for hookups it comes with the implication that they aren't all that sexually desirable. It suggests that whoever you end up with in a long term relationship will feel more sexual desire for others. Of course it's not that simple, sexual desire can be built through connection but it is painful to think your girlfriend or wife doesn't look at y…
/r/ExRedPill21/07/25 04:49 AM
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You keep saying that like it's impossible to move on from someone in your immediate proximity. He'll be near you at work, yes, but if he's not actually interacting with you he should be easy to ignore. If he's difficult to ignore that means some part of you is still interested or attracted to him even though you recognize he isn't worth your time. His attention toward other women means nothing about your value. He has already proven himself to be a jackass by believing in red pill BS. You handle…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/25 01:27 AM
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To get a little more political, I think that is also a consequence of a rugged individualist society. That cultural notion encourages isolation, comparison, and looking down on those less fortunate than you. There is a reason Red Pillers think of dating in capitalistic terms
/r/ExRedPill25/05/25 05:31 PM
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It's rooted in the 80/20 myth A man that can have sex with a lot of women must be a "high value" man to get so many women interested in him. Because women are biologically only attracted to "alpha men" or whatever bullshit. While any man of any value will (supposedly) have sex with any woman of any value. So a woman having sex with a lot of men is not considered an accomplishment. In fact that "devalues" the woman in their eyes because it means she is giving her value away. This is all bullshit.…
/r/ExRedPill23/05/25 01:30 AM
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I think for a decent amount of men, especially men that fell into red pill beliefs, the feeling is "yes I totally would... If I felt like I had a chance with her. Women can pull higher value men just by existing where men need to be in the top 10% to get a high value woman" (I use "high value" to capture how red pillers think about it, I don't believe in assigning a value to individuals) So it's not really about whether or not he would, he doesn't feel like he'd be able to if the opportunity cam…
/r/ExRedPill07/04/25 07:24 PM
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Yeah... I was reading this thinking "I don't know if I trust someone on ex-red pill to have an impartial reading of a dating advice book..." Then I read the comments and my suspicions were confirmed
/r/ExRedPill01/01/25 07:59 AM
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I'm 29 now but when I was your age I also had a phase where I was on 4chan which led me to pick-up artistry. I never got quite so hateful towards women, but I did have a "nice guy" complex thinking that women didn't want me because I was "too nice" I will say count your blessings. Sucks that you went down that path at all, but I stuck with my bad dating beliefs until high school. Figuring out how bad it is at 14 is a great start. Hell there are full grown ADULTS who still treat women the way you…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/24 11:05 AM
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Yes but I'd say it's also more complex than that. "The asshole" in my example would probably have a higher success rate if he were respectful and considerate. And "the shy guy" would have a higher success rate if he just talked to more women and projected more confidence. It's partially a numbers game but partially also being a good human being, taking care of yourself, having confidence, etc.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 07:32 AM
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I think it's a few things: If someone is a misogynist and doesn't care about the feelings of women or how women perceive him then it is a lot easier to approach them, make what you want from them clear, and then engage with them. If you are more worried about her feelings, worried about how she'll feel about you, and see her as a person you are more likely to be timid or hesitant in approaching. The latter is a more respectful and moral person, and maybe even more desirable, but they may have mo…
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 03:10 AM
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If someone doesn't care about a woman's feelings it becomes much easier to lie and misrepresent yourself without feeling any remorse Where if someone is caring and sees women as people they might be more worried about hurting her feelings or making her uncomfortable. I'm sure these guys put on a whole false persona around women and not all women can see through that facade
/r/ExRedPill25/04/24 07:38 PM
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I could give examples of non-famous people I know that are not conventionally attractive and get laid but you wouldn't know who they are. So there is literally no example I could give to convince you. And so what if Rhea Perlman is his "looksmatch?" My argument was that you don't need to be conventionally attractive to get a relationship or casual sex. Not that anyone and everyone can have whoever they want. A core experience of seeking relationships is not being able to be with someone you real…
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 06:40 AM
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There is such a thing as "conventionally attractive" that, yes, will generally be more alluring to a greater amount of people. But this applies to everyone, though. I guarantee there are women you notice and have sexual attraction for much more than you would for other women, right? Do you feel ashamed for feeling this way? Do you feel like you're being mean or unfair to the women you aren't attracted to? No, because you can't help what you are and aren't attracted to. And you shouldn't feel bad…
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 04:21 AM
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Ok, dude, fine some people were wrong and told you that ever having even a little casual sex is unrealistic as a man. Something tells me you are misrepresenting what they actually said, but fine let's assume they made the claim that casual sex is always unrealistic for men. They were being stupid when they said that and they were wrong. End of story. It demonstrably is realistic, I mean who do you think straight women are having casual sex with if not men? And it's not just "chads" either. Women…
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 03:55 AM
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It depends on your definition of casual sex. Having one night stands or FWB every now and then is a very realistic thing that happens everywhere all the time. Banging a new girl every night like some kind of sex god isn't very realistic. I suppose people in kinky and sexual social circles might possibly live like that. The more effort you put into that lifestyle the more frequent sex would be I'd imagine.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 03:22 AM
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I did I just misunderstood your point about wealth at the end, but now I understand you were only using it as an analogy. So your main concern is the attractiveness of your friends and doing well with womeb? Anyone has the capacity to be attractive to women in my opinion. But your self esteem is the first thing you need to build before taking the next step. That can be a hard thing to do and as others have suggested getting professional therapy may be your best bet. I have struggled with similar…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 05:56 AM
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Dude, let me tell you something. The fact that the people around you are richer than you is not a reflection on their value or your value as human beings. Sure, maybe they are going to Paris and getting new cars but not because they are "harder workers" who "wanted it more." Plain and simple, they got lucky. They also benefit from capitalist American culture so most people, including you, believe these rich kids are better people and more deserving of their wealth than others. It's wrong, rich p…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 03:31 AM
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I think these guys believe that all of those ugly to average looking men in relationships are ignorantly or knowingly cuckolds. This is completely untrue, of course, but they think modern marriage is an arrangement where "lesser men" pay for their wives livelihood while the wife goes and has fun cheating with "alphas" So yeah they just think every woman in their family is cheating most likely lol
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 10:09 PM
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No one with a good education is likely to date a guy who cares so deeply about chastity anyway lol
/r/ExRedPill22/02/24 05:48 AM
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I think their idea of sex is that a virginal woman would have no concept of sex and therefore would be easy to dominate. Without being "tainted" by other men there is no risk that she has had sex with a more masculine or more sexually capable man. So in their minds she would be happy to be dominated and degraded in bed. And the desire to do that to women comes from a power fantasy. It is as fucked up as it seems. Basically they want a virgin they can corrupt to their own desires.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/23 06:06 PM
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So what you're saying is if women fuck men that are TOO attractive or have TOO MUCH sexual prowess they will ruin themselves for the man they actually love? I think that is fucking ridiculous. What human thinks that way? Sex is all about connection. I would much prefer sex with a woman I wasn't as physically attracted to if I was more comfortable with her, if our sexual interests matched more, and if I felt more freedom with her. I guarantee you it is the same for women. Why? Because then you'll…
/r/ExRedPill24/08/23 02:16 AM
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It's also a weird way to justify the ludicrous belief that if your girlfriend gets any kind of attention from other men then it counts as cheating. Posting a beach bikini pic to Instagram? Did it get likes from men? That's cheating apparently But when a man posts a shirtless pics and it gets likes from women, that's not cheating because attention isn't like sex for men! Ridiculous
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 06:03 AM
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There is a subreddit called /r/RedPillWomen There is also Pearl Davis who says things like divorce should be illegal and that feminism is "ruining femininity" I think it is usually women that want to feel a sense of superiority over other women by being more "truly feminine" and therefore more appealing to men. It comes from insecurity the same way it does for men. But obviously there are much less red pill women than men because it basically purports female inferiority.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/23 02:05 AM
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The only reason women and minorities appear to have contributed to western civilization less is because western civilization actively suppressed their education, discredited their achievements, and often gave the credit to some white man instead. Even with those barriers though there are many inventions, contributions to culture, and science that have been produced by women and minorities throughout history.
/r/ExRedPill02/07/23 03:46 AM
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I’m 5’6” and I’ve had sex.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/23 04:45 AM
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“Traditional values” when it benefits men, “scientific biology” when they want to go against tradition. To be fair there was a ton of adultery in “traditional” marriages in the 50’s. But that’s not because they were happy.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 07:48 AM
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Ok well then I guess whenever you ask your wife to take a paternity test you also have to offer to take a polygraph test that proves you aren’t cheating on her. And pray to god your relationship will be healthy and survive that level of mutual distrust. I really don’t think a paternity test is always necessary unless there is a good medical reason or if there is evidence of cheating around the time of conception.
/r/ExRedPill27/02/23 04:42 AM
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Would you be offended if a girl asked you to take a background check to prove you weren’t a rapist? After all she has a right to know she isn’t dating a rapist right? Or, if the legal implications make it too different for you, how about a polygraph test where they ask you if you’ve ever cheated, what your intentions for the relationship are, whether you’ll stay with her if she gets pregnant, etc. Would you be offended by that suggestion?
/r/ExRedPill26/02/23 11:52 PM
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Dude this is such bullshit you’re spewing. You come at me asking for studies acting all empirical about your beliefs and then you give me the okcupid data and a bunch of anonymous confessions on the internet where random supposedly real women say they are utterly disgusted by below average physical appearance? Even assuming all of those confessions are real, they really mean nothing. Of course you can find a dozen women saying they vomit at the sight of a man under 6’6” Think of all the awful sh…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 11:55 PM
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For sure this perception is based on my personal conclusions in talking to women and seeing who they date. But there is some research to support the claim as well. This is based on one study so idk if it’s really conclusive but I did find this: A new study out of the U.K. found men in their 20s care about looks FOUR TIMES more than women do. And women in their 20s care THREE TIMES more about someone’s personality. Researchers looked at nine different traits and when it comes to dating, women car…
/r/ExRedPill12/02/23 03:08 AM
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I get the feeling you were using the term innocently, but it’s a subtle way people dehumanize women. I think it’s ok to use as an adjective. Like female pilot, or female athlete, etc But as a noun it becomes dehumanizing. People use female as a noun when describing animals. Think back to nature documentaries “the male pursues the female with a mating dance” It’s often used to reduce women to a set of animalistic instincts that guide their behavior. Notice that people don’t usually do the same fo…
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 11:27 PM
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Women on average care less about physical attributes than men do. That isn’t to say your looks or height never matter, most people do care about those qualities to some degree. But this caricature of women that they won’t even acknowledge the existence of someone under 6’0” isn’t true at all.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/23 08:16 PM
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Average doesn’t really mean most, it means roughly half. On a standard bell curve, the average of a metric will fall right on the peak of that bell curve. Meaning that everyone behind that peak is below average, and everyone ahead of that peak is above average. About half of people will fall directly on or around average, with everyone else being above or below the average. Most metrics relating to dating are subjective, but you see my point. When we consider that rarely is anyone average in eve…
/r/ExRedPill04/02/23 02:03 AM
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Ok? And? Is everyone universally average in all things? The average experience is what everyone should expect? Maybe it’s a little more unlikely or difficult to have an experience that is out of the ordinary but is every thing about you average?
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 07:59 PM
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Men also age and not all men gain wealth and status with age. Wealth and status is also often seen as attractive in women so there really isn’t much disparity there in my opinion. I will admit that patriarchal standards do tend to devalue older women because they are seen as unattractive, and physical attraction is a woman’s main value in a patriarchal society. However patriarchal values are not held universally. Plenty of young guys like older women, plenty of young women like older guys, and p…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 10:53 PM
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Even among other apes things are more nuanced than physical strength and size
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 08:40 PM
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They all imagine themselves as Elon Musk (or rather, the idealized image of Elon Musk they have in their heads) except they aren't Elon Musk yet
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 09:00 AM
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I’ve admitted I was nervous every first date for every girlfriend I’ve ever had. Usually they appreciate it and completely understand and they admit they’re nervous too.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 11:21 PM
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I think body shaming for anything is wrong, however I’m more lenient about it when it’s directed at someone who actively body shames others and sees no problem with it. Andrew Tate is a perfect example of that, he wants to uphold toxic masculinity so calling his dick small is something that he would care about. And it’s the kind of criticism Andrew Tate dishes out regularly. Similarly, if a woman were saying that she is better than fat women and that it’s important to adhere to beauty standards …
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 06:49 PM
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all the have to do is put on leggings and go outside if they want to be desired, they can hit the gym - something that won't help me how am I in the same situation? I don’t know what to tell you other than every single word of this is untrue. And you’d know that if you actually talked to and empathized with women beyond trying to date or fuck them. I encourage you to first look at your self esteem and body image issues. Address whatever it is that makes you feel so undesirable. Perhaps with the …
/r/ExRedPill07/12/22 01:53 PM
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is this how you cope with the fact women don't desire men? Women do desire men. They’re not quite as open about it as men are but women get horny for men all the time. They don’t desire ALL men. But you and all other men don’t desire ALL women either. Sometimes men and especially red pill or incel types make the mistake of imagining all women as attractive. They don’t see unattractive women as having any real value so they don’t incorporate unattractive women into their worldviews. Incels like t…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/22 01:32 PM
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The fact you use terms like “sexual capital” tells me that your mind has been poisoned with capitalist ideas about competition and desirability. This red pill stuff, at the base of it, is a reaction to the false belief that capitalism is the natural primal society that humanity was meant to live under. That’s why red pillers connect their ideas to concepts like markets, supply & demand, and capital. Most people do not think of other human beings as commodities. When you’re deciding what car to b…
/r/ExRedPill07/12/22 11:00 AM
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I would perhaps agree that dating apps are toxic to some degree and are responsible for reinforcing ideas that incels have about women and themselves. I focus on the 80/20 rule because that is a big cornerstone of red pill ideology that isn’t really true in life. And once you realize the 80/20 rule isn’t true it demystifies a lot of the red pill and incel rhetoric. The rule is somewhat true in online dating, but that’s why you either use online dating with that knowledge in mind or avoid using i…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/22 04:05 AM
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You’re sooortt of right. The 80/20 rule is true… ON DATING APPS. That doesn’t mean it’s true in every single dating context ever. And while Tinder might seem like an objective way to judge how desirable you are as a man, it’s really not. First of all, women are typically less interested in online dating than men. So there is usually a high ratio of men to women. Like 10 men to 1 woman. Obviously if you’re competing with 9 other men then on average every time you talk to a woman it’s going to mak…
/r/ExRedPill04/11/22 09:13 AM
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Yes, but also I think most people who want to find love will find love. Maybe it won’t last their whole lives, or maybe it won’t be as happy a relationship as others have had. But I think the vast majority of people will find themselves in at least a few relationships over the course of their whole life. The fact that some simply won’t is definitely a sad fact. I think you’d have to be really unlucky to be searching for love but never find it, but I’m sure it does happen. That’s why you look for…
/r/ExRedPill02/11/22 05:59 AM
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Dude you are so far removed from reality it isn’t even funny. Do you think the average normie could even begin to fathom what you’re trying to communicate with this comment? That isn’t because you’re more intelligent than most people, it’s because most people do not spend 16 hours a day on Reddit and 4chan learning about the world from the most deranged members of the human species. You’re mixing in incel words with the Nazi dog whistle (((echoes))) around the word GENETICS as if the the Jews ar…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 12:56 AM
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My girlfriend broke up with me months ago, and while I can’t prove she wasn’t cheating I have no evidence or strong suspicions that she did. So….
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 09:52 PM
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And maybe an ideal face ratio chart so you can objectively calculate how attractive your date is
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 08:55 PM
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Does he seriously think women ever think about this stuff? “Hmm he’s pretty short but carries himself like he has an 8 inch dick. Hmm do I want a manlet with a big dick? I guess it depends on whether he’s an alpha male or a beta male, let’s see how he acts in a group. Hmm he’s a little bit beta, well too bad if he were just 3 inches taller I would have given him a chance” Like, that is psychotic.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 08:22 PM
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So please, women, gimme your honest opinions about this. Would you rather... 5'7'' manlet-maxxed with average 6'5'' p. or a 5'11''-6' low-average man with a mediocre 5.5''-6'' p.? You will never ever EVER hear women talking about men like this. Sure maybe some women really really prefer tall men or whatever. But no woman is sitting there thinking “hmm well this man is manlet and a sub-8 beta male, but it looks like his penis is pretty big so maybe he’s worth my time, hmm but I don’t know he is a…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/22 08:15 PM
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Assuming the truth is exactly how you perceived it and wrote it down here, I can tell you I don’t think this guy is happy. And while he might be good at getting a passionate rise out of women I doubt he is someone stable that they’d want to engage with for very long. Here is what I will suggest: are you sure the toxicity is what these women are attracted to? It sounds like this guy has a certain charm to him and a lot of confidence, but he couples that with a lot of demeaning words and disrespec…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 12:00 AM
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Ok but you see that’s what you’re doing to women right? You’re taking these women with unrealistic standards and saying “yep that’s women for you” I could just as easily make a video with guys saying they’d never date a girl who is overweight, has a body count higher than 3, women with breasts below a certain cup size or an ass of a certain size. They’d never date women who are a certain amount taller than them, they’d never date women that dress a certain way or have tattoos, they’d never date …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 09:05 PM
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Can women be shallow and vapid? Yeah of course. The crucial thing about “women are people” is that they’re people, and people are far from universally good. Just like there are a lot of unethical asshole men out there, there are a lot of unethical asshole women out there. How does it make you feel when women use one bad experience with a man and applies it to all men?
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 08:07 PM
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Strange then that short men sometimes date women with big asses. And tall men sometimes date women with flat asses. And everything in between. While there are beauty standards that people will, on average, be attracted to they are far from universal or objective.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/22 04:06 AM
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Stop parading around this “top 80% of females” bullshit please. Looks and compatibility are subjective and there is no objective beauty or desirability standard.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 10:04 PM
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I completely agree with you. I’d imagine it’s easier on average for women to get male attention, but that male attention is mostly sexual and usually unwanted. And if it’s not explicitly sexual it’s often possessive (e.g. “nice guys” feeling entitled to a date because they asked nicely). It’s very possible for women to get a ton of male attention but still feel lonely because seemingly none of them are interested in her romantically. And on top of that there are a lot of women who just don’t get…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 10:02 PM
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The women I find attractive would be considered ugly or below average by most men, I think. At least in my experience. That isn’t to say I’m not attracted to more conventionally attractive people too.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 07:46 AM
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Relationships are conditional by nature. For both men and women. Some have more strict conditions than others, and maybe sometimes their conditions are cruel. (For example, it’s fairly common for people to leave their significant other when they become seriously ill or disabled. I’m not sure how common that is, but it definitely happens. And it is very cruel.) But romantic relationships come down to personal choice at the end of the day. The only reason people stay in relationships is because th…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/22 04:52 AM
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This is how I saw that thread go: “Is it true that the standards for men are very low?” “Well, we don’t really mean men have an easy time getting into relationships necessarily, just that they often aren’t good partners and that is considered normal. And anything above that is considered exceptional.” “Wow how could you say something so hateful toward men?“ “It’s not hateful it’s just true, a lot of men barely even clean themselves” “WOW so now men are dirty AND don’t care about their partners?”…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 12:43 AM
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Explain yourself. What part of her mentality is wrong? How is expecting the bare minimum of men wrong?
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 09:35 PM
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And I think what this does to men is it throws their entire perception of what they should be doing in a relationship out of whack. Men who do the bare minimum or less often feel like they’re doing plenty. Men who go above and beyond feel like they’re doing enough but never really know for sure. How is a man supposed to know the difference between what is enough in a relationship and what isn’t? It seems like the rule should be “always assume you’re never being asked for too much” but then how d…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 09:32 PM
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So you’re saying men shouldn’t be expected to do the bare minimum and should be praised when they do? Kinda seems like you’re proving her point dude.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/22 09:16 PM
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How do women want to be treated exactly?
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 08:00 PM
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I sort of agree, in the sense that maybe women don’t have as much experience with initiating contact or expressing romantic interest and that is important for men to know how to do. Only because there is a societal expectation for men to be the ones to do that for the most part. However, I think women are great at giving feedback on what is and isn’t creepy behavior. Appropriate and easy ways to meet women, good ways to introduce yourself, the kinds of things they’d appreciate from someone expre…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/22 06:03 PM
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All due respect, I think this is a somewhat narrow worldview. After all, there is a certain type of woman most men are attracted to. And in fact, I feel like women who fall out of that type are more often ignored than men who fall out of the traditionally attractive male type. But there are also lots of men who prefer the less conventional women just like there are lots of women who like the less conventional men. If we work in generalizations then yeah “most x want x” can make us feel a certain…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 10:22 PM
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What kind of innate primal attractions do men have? Are men rejecting their primal instincts when they go after strong women?
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 09:47 PM
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The important thing to remember with break ups is that the other person involved is still their own person. Maybe it was something you did or didn’t do in the relationship, but it’s rare for that problem to go completely unspoken. If a woman breaks up with someone for seemingly no reason or spontaneously than it was most likely an internal problem with her. People can get dissatisfied with a relationship for a variety of reasons and there isn’t always someone to blame or even rationality to it. …
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 09:23 PM
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It's hard to compete with an ideology that offers a one-size fits all solution to a complicated problem. The red pill takes men who are lonely, sad, and confused about how to relate to women and tells them it's because they're pathetic. They're not good enough, but the good news is they can get good enough if they just treat women in this specifically prescribed misogynist way. If it doesn't work then it's because you still aren't good enough. You need to lift more, or "dread game" more, or make…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 04:38 PM
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This would come off as insecure, possessive, and controlling. I think it’s fine to send her a short introductory text like “hey this is so and so” but only after you leave. Asking her to confirm it right then and there would be a red flag and would probably make her concerned that you’re an overbearing or even dangerous person. And If you’re approaching strangers I’d advise you not ask for her number but just give her your number and then don’t linger for too long. This puts the onus on her, she…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 08:24 PM
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I think they use the driving thing as an example of how men and women are inherently better at different things and are therefore inherently different on a base level. Therefore women shouldn’t be treated exactly the same as men because they’re not the same as men. It’s a small building block that they use to build bigger and bigger misogynistic conclusions. But I agree it’s such a dumb sticking point to begin with.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/22 02:21 AM
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The response I always hear from Tater Tots is "oh sure women are more CAREFUL drivers, but men are more SKILLED drivers. They're more able to do crazy shit like parking in tight spaces and drifting and street racing and blah blah blah" "We're better reckless drivers" is a stupid flex for men anyway, but it's also something that can't really be proven or disproven without some kind of study where men and women both try to do crazy driving stunts.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/22 03:06 AM
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I think it’s Rolo Tony Brown Town
/r/ExRedPill20/07/22 02:06 PM
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I will refer you to his own words that have been archived with screenshots in this post: Link And this video where he beats a woman on video for not listening to him: Link Is that specific enough or do you still want to expend energy defending him?
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 11:10 PM
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He wasn’t offering them money dude he was pressuring them to do it and then taking all the money they earned by cam showing. He did this with multiple girls at a time and called it a business. It’s sick.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/22 10:15 PM
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Thank you for your supportive words. Even though I've heard it from many people it's always helpful to hear that I didn't do anything to deserve the kind of treatment I got from her. Oh no! I'm so sorry you were given that intense of a feeling from just not getting answers you needed to save your time, energy, and love from being sorta wasted. Anxiety can definitely cause us massive issues until we can get it under control (I finally after years of trial and error got put on the right medicine f…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/22 06:33 PM
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I do want to say that I don’t think she was being quite as manipulative or abusive as a red pill guy. I think red pillers do that kind of stuff intentionally with the goal of forcing her into servitude. I think my ex just had a problem with unrealistic expectations. She always seemed disappointed in me in some way or another. One time she seemed very distant and disinterested in spending time with me. She didn’t seem to be having fun on our date. So I asked her “am I a disappointment to you?” Ho…
/r/ExRedPill18/07/22 05:28 PM
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I’m a man but I’ve had a girlfriend do things kinda like this. It put me in a position of always trying to please her but feeling like it was never enough. And eventually she just broke up with me without explaining why. I suppose to a red pill guy psychologically abusing someone into servitude is their ideal situation but it ruined my self esteem for quite a while.
/r/ExRedPill18/07/22 04:30 PM
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This is kind of off topic but I don’t want any mention of Andrew Tate to go by without this being mentioned. Andrew Tate is a sex trafficker. He currently lives in Romania because, in his own words, they have lax laws against rape. Andrew Tate is a sex criminal actively trying to spread his views to young boys and teenagers. His sex trafficking involved convincing women they were dating him and coercing them into doing webcam shows and giving him all of the money.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/22 02:41 PM
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That is a good point, alpha/beta is probably more of an accurate representation of how men relate to each other when steeped in a toxic masculine culture than how women see men. That actually explains the widespread belief of alpha/beta dynamics among toxic men a lot.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/22 06:15 PM
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I have no idea the full context of this passage. I imagine he was making some kind of point about something but I can’t imagine what it could be.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 09:06 PM
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If someone loses attraction to you for expressing your feelings, then they don’t actually care about you. Could it happen? Sure, but I would take that as a sign that they were a person seriously lacking in empathy if after being vulnerable and expressing my emotions the only take away they had is “ugh that was so unattractive” In my experience women really appreciate it when you can communicate and express your feelings. If anything I think most women consider it an attractive trait when you can…
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 07:24 AM
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I think that’s a bit extreme. Sounds like he just has a bit of insecurity but still cares about her a lot. I think he should be honest with her about how he’s feeling, admit that it’s silly to feel that way but he still does anyway and try to work with her on it. It’s hard to say what exactly is even going on though because he didn’t exactly specify.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 06:17 AM
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I dreamed I saw my maternal grandmother sitting by the bank of a swimming pool, that was also a river. In real life, she had been a victim of Alzheimer’s disease, and had regressed, before her death, to a semi-conscious state. In the dream, as well, she had lost her capacity for self-control. Her genital region was exposed, dimly; it had the appearance of a thick mat of hair. She was stroking herself, absent-mindedly. She walked over to me, with a handful of pubic hair, compacted into something …
/r/ExRedPill05/07/22 01:41 AM
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Better yet, why don’t they start a cult and position themselves as the supreme leader. And then only allow men to join if they pledge their wives and girlfriends to the supreme leader. That’s the kind of fucked up way they want the world to work for them so they might as well do it out in the open and collect as many vulnerable people as they can
/r/ExRedPill03/07/22 05:06 PM
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All the people saying “but you can lose weight” strike me as a bit lacking in understanding. Sure theoretically an obese person can get down to healthy weight but it’s rarely that simple. First of all, most obese people have some kind of addiction to food. Be it sugar addiction, stress eating, compulsive overeating, or what have you. Sure, you can overcome all of that, but it’s hard and usually requires outside help. And then even after you’ve beaten that part of the equation, the threat of a re…
/r/ExRedPill27/06/22 10:52 AM
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Man that is such a heartbreaking story. I can only imagine what it’s like to lose someone to a shitty ideology like that. Honestly though, it’s pathetic that he is still trying the same tactics that made you break up with him. Makes you wonder what he thinks is going on in his mind. Does he think you’re putty in his hand and it’s only a matter of time until you come crawling back? Because clearly that is not the case.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 11:55 PM
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I was going into an incel sort of mindset around high school but pulled myself out of it for the most part by the end of high school. For me, no longer defining myself by my relationship status was a big help. I think incels have a problem of obsessing over finding a relationship, like if they found one it would finally validate their worth as a person and they will finally be happy. But if they did find a relationship without learning more about themselves I guarantee they would find themselves…
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 12:03 PM
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I can’t find the original clip on their podcast, but Noah Samson used it in his video on them which I linked below. There are other wacky clips in that video as well. https://youtu.be/CuZuaQ3a6SY&t=157
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 07:21 AM
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This is what’s so awful about RP ideas. This guy was probably insecure and scared of losing your affection. But rather than discussing that with you he got into these weird abusive and manipulative ideas that are supposed to make women crazy for you. And now I’m sure he’s still trying to harass you because he believes he can win you back with that type of behavior. It’s horrible.
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 04:53 AM
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Show him the clip of Fresh and Fit saying “Who gives a fuck about a woman’s orgasm? It’s useless” then pause it, look him in the eye, and say “I give a fuck about a woman’s orgasm” If that doesn’t make him realize how dumb he’s being then perhaps nothing will. On a more serious note, I think the only thing you may be able to do is tell him seriously how you love compassionate men, and how his compassion is your most cherished quality of his. Fresh and Fit are big on being these indomitable macho…
/r/ExRedPill24/05/22 04:49 AM
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My advice: it’s not your job to teach these guys that women are human. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of men struggling with deep seated misogyny. And there’s not a lot that can convince them that women don’t crave aggressive stoic domination from men. Part of the red pill and pick up artist philosophy is that women never say what they actually want. In fact, according to them, women will actively mislead men as to what they want. As a sort of “test.” It’s ridiculous I know, but basically these me…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/21 05:04 PM
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I mean, I think you should let go whatever is real. Sometimes it is a normal reaction to be shocked or stoic at a death. Or maybe not devestated, but just very bummed about it (if the death was expected it’s usually easier to cope with the passing) But if you really really loved that dog that you had for almost 20 years and your heart is broken at the loss, then go ahead and be a blubbering mess if that’s what feels natural.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/21 08:01 AM
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This is the only place on the internet where the word “rogueinhoid” exists
/r/ExRedPill30/01/21 01:01 PM
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I’m a man but I’d personally be very uncomfortable and disturbed if someone I was close to was completely emotionless as their dog died
/r/ExRedPill26/01/21 01:21 PM
1

Perhaps there’s truth to that but I doubt one leads to testosterone increase where the other leads to decrease. And even if one or the other does effect testosterone, testosterone is not some magic chemical that equates to manliness. Too much testosterone causes premature baldness, I don’t think that’s a particularly masculine trait.
/r/ExRedPill24/12/20 12:16 AM
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This reminds me of a “no fap” discussion in which they said that masturbating reduces testosterone, yet having sex increases testosterone. Why? How does the body tell the difference? Let’s say I get off with another person but we don’t actually have sex, would my testosterone go up or down?
/r/ExRedPill23/12/20 05:21 AM
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James Adomian does a hilarious impression of him
/r/ExRedPill11/10/20 01:53 PM
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100% women sacrifice looks the majority of the time. It’s deep within our culture, at least American culture. Think about all the sitcoms with a big fat husband who is the funny guy and a slender conventionally attractive wife. People expect women to care less about looks, and when everyone expects you to be a certain way you either start to be that way or you deal with being looked down upon by others. And being harassed by people like Incels probably.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/20 01:31 PM
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It's hard to say. I think it has to do with entertainment being primarily moved indoors. Youth often spend time together via the internet these days. And I'm not a "technology bad" kind of guy, I just think that technological developments tend to cause cultural changes that require some adjustment. For example, when writing was invented people stopped memorizing things. Thousands of years ago people would commit stories of thousands of words to memory. Today no one does that because there's no p…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/20 01:26 AM
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Don’t listen to the comments saying that women aren’t attracted to feminist men. It’s not true. Most women I know will dump a man for exuding toxic masculinity or expressing misogynistic opinions. Sure there are women who go after toxic and even abusive men. But it’s because those women have insecurity issues. The reason so many men are bitter about this today, I think, comes down to the fact that a generation of boys never learned social skills. So growing up these boys saw women as an other. A…
/r/ExRedPill09/08/20 10:12 PM
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I would say it’s more like chicken or the egg. Do they see women as sub-human because they have no female friends? Or do they have no female friends because they see women as sub-human? I think there’s probably a bit of both. And the ones that do have female friends probably don’t respect their female friends to the same degree they do their male ones.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 11:12 AM
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I think I second this. Your girlfriend might be picking up more on your insecurity surrounding this attitude rather than the attitude itself. It’s true that if you feel something wrong you usually give off signals that something is wrong. And it can make people shy away or become concerned. That said you also can’t “make” your girlfriend retain interest in the relationship. All you can do is continue being your best self. Listen to her, communicate with her, and do what you can to accommodate or…
/r/ExRedPill19/12/19 04:32 PM
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Against sexual acts toward someone who isn’t comfortable with it, yes
/r/ExRedPill01/10/19 08:54 PM
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Here’s where the beta orbiter idea comes from: A lot of men think that being a woman’s personal slave will woo her into some kind of romantic relationship. This doesn’t make them a “beta” or a worthless human being or anything else along those lines. It does point to some bad personal philosophy, bad ideas about women, and poor self esteem though. These men will feel somehow betrayed when their hopes aren’t met and at that point may cut off the friendship entirely. Note: I phrase it as “personal…
/r/ExRedPill28/02/19 11:17 PM
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I know this is the least of the entire story but for future reference you don’t need to be swabbed for STD tests. Everything that can be tested with a swab can be tested with a urine test. Best of luck to you moving forward. You’ll come out on top with time.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/19 07:30 AM
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My point is just because something is popular culture doesn't mean it's correct. I apologize for responding crassly but just because others believe it means nothing. There are plenty of other shows that depict women as loving and caring humans, why don't you listen to those shows? You have trouble believing those shows? Why?
/r/ExRedPill11/12/18 02:38 AM
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That doesn’t mean anything? You’re just using nonsense pseudo-philosophy to justify your misogynist beliefs
/r/ExRedPill10/12/18 07:14 PM
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Step 1: stop developing your beliefs from mindless shows like Family Guy. That show is created by misogynists so of course the way they portray women will match up with TRP in some way.
/r/ExRedPill10/12/18 07:00 PM
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Not sure if that’s necessarily true but unconditional love is very very rare. What we call unconditional love might just be love with very low conditions but still conditional. And I think it’s the sort of thing that happens between parents and children. It’s not a realistic expectation when it comes to relationships.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/18 05:11 PM
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No I don’t think so. It’s easy to point to the animal kingdom and say “well males are usually the dominant ones in ape and monkey societies” and yeah that’s true but humans are a very nuanced species. The ability to form and communicate complex ideas creates an environment for our species where it’s hard to compare humanity to other animals on a level playing field. Also it’s not always the case that men are dominant in the animal kingdom. There are several species where women are dominant or wh…
/r/ExRedPill23/04/18 10:40 AM
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Adding to that, I theorize that red pill-types get off to "conquest" If a woman approached them and asked them to have sex they wouldn't enjoy it, even if they found the woman extremely attractive. They only enjoy sex if it's their greatness, their "alphaness" that accomplished it. They only enjoy it if they feel that they dominated the woman mentally. In short they aren't really getting off to having sex with someone they find attractive they're getting off to the fact that they dominated and m…
/r/ExRedPill22/04/18 06:52 AM
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I think it's several things. They see Asians as "naturally submissive" and "uncorrupted by feminism" they believe Asians will act as they think women should act. They have weird ideas about Asian racial purity. You'll often hear alt right folks talk about how great it is that China and Japan have pure ethnostates that don't allow those dang minorities in. So they believe Asians will be as racist as them, or at least not mind their racist beliefs. They exploit the language and culture barrier. It…
/r/ExRedPill04/12/17 04:15 PM
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I'm just now reading this thread and holy shit is Mr.hold_the_holohoax a fucking idiot. "I wouldn't trust no icky black dude so I'd always choose to work with the white dude therefore every person on Earth would and should do the same!" Are you fucking insane? That's your argument for ethnocentrism being beneficial? You ever wonder why we don't call people Angles, Saxons, Normans, and Franks anymore? BECAUSE THEY FUCKING INTEGRATED AND BECAME ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRIES OF ALL TIME. I kno…
/r/PussyPass20/04/17 07:47 AM
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It's just a joke dude, don't be so sensitive!
/r/PussyPassDenied09/04/17 10:32 AM
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Well yeah, which is more likely they're not showing images of the women they sleep with because they respect their privacy or because they don't exist? lol
/r/ExRedPill19/03/17 02:09 PM
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I suppose he didn't bring that up in the video because simply asking "are you telling the truth?" is kind of a cheap debate tactic. If you can destroy someone's philosophy or belief while assuming everything they say is true then it doesn't matter whether they can produce evidence or not. But yes, I agree that this is yet another thing lacking within the red pill. Granted, it would be kinda creepy (as if they aren't already creepy) to post pictures of themselves with the women they banged.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/17 01:47 PM
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Pick-up artistry is an incredibly flawed philosophy that is not only hateful towards women but doesn't make any sense. I highly recommend you watch the entire video though because a summary can't show you the arguments made. Unless you want me to straight up summarize every point he makes but would you really rather read a bunch than watch a video?
/r/ExRedPill19/03/17 10:14 AM
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The first post on this sub that I actually enjoyed and agree with
/r/PussyPassDenied07/02/17 12:10 AM
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