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I remember one guy reading women's opinions here and responding "all women lie, it's just what they do!" like what is even the point of engaging then?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:00 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:35 PM
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You can like a specific type of personality and still be shallow, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:17 PM
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While I agree in principle, I dream of the day when a Redditor will be able to disagree with someone without sounding like a passive-aggressive, condescending tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:21 PM
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Well said, I think this is a good summary of the phenomenon. Women are attracted to strength and confidence, even if the guy is an asshole. They are repelled by weakness, even if he's otherwise a good person. That's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:26 PM
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I've always defined it as "the cocky, smirking asshole with a chip on his shoulder" and yes, I've met the type and they do attract women regardless of background or social class.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:22 PM
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I agree that there's nuance. In my experience, a woman might fall for a "bad boy" because he appears strong, confident, resourceful and fun. Many of these guys are also good at manipulation and appear charming at first. Now as for women who repeatedly go for assholes, they are generally young and immature, have self-esteem issues, or are assholes themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:20 PM
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Those are extremes though. I've also seen plenty of cute, sexy thicc women as opposed to skinny ones who didn't look that great. Note I said thick/curvy, not obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:15 PM
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Yep, that makes sense. Not sure about 2 though, seems like they would get along if they were both gym rats, but I can see how it might get annoying/awkward going to the same gym. It's the same as dating a coworker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:13 PM
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The beginning legit made me think it was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khMlcTE7lw8
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:23 PM
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I knew one dude who literally thought this. He kept close tabs on women he was dating, while also cheating on them. His reasoning was that he's the man and it's natural. He was one of those Andrew Tate alpha male types.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:21 PM
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Wait, why are there shirtless dudes in the produce section? Oh, it's AI. The vaunted dad bod with messed-up hands :P
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:19 PM
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"Doesn't matter how innocent you think your future husband is, ask to have access to his phone and computer" - same energy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:15 PM
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7 bachelors living by themselves, sounds right to me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:32 PM
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So I've been experimenting with different spices in my cooking and I think I overdid it with the nutmeg. Added too much and didn't realize how strong it is. I still ate the food, but 2 hours later and I can still taste it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:19 PM
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Agreed, along with American Dad and Futurama.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:12 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh0AhrY9GjA
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:54 PM
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While I think Family Guy and The Simpsons have both gone down in quality, FG is worse. Simpsons is like an old washed-up comedian who still makes you laugh once in a while. New FG is like the drunken uncle who tells dirty jokes during Thanksgiving dinner and thinks he's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:53 PM
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Alright, let's assume you have more experience in this field than I do. Care to enlighten me where I'm wrong, or would you prefer to continue being snide?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:26 PM
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What? He only "wins" by continuing to get a reaction from you. Remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:22 PM
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That's more serious, I agree, but ignoring or responding with good humor still works. Unless you're dealing with psychopaths on a regular basis, in which case you have my sympathies and should maybe look into moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:20 PM
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Mazel tov :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:18 PM
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There's always gonna be trolls and weirdos, just ignore them. I never understood those who claim they're being "harassed" online, when it's so easy to block or ignore those people. Or even step away from the screen for a while. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:16 PM
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Yep, you are free to choose the guy whose life you want to ruin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:05 PM
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Yep, I'm getting borderline too old for kids anyway, not that I ever wanted them. I value my peace and freedom way too much. This cursed bloodline shall end with me. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:57 PM
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"I hate when people follow and reply to me on this public forum site!" like wtf did she want
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:55 PM
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Just pick whoever you want, it's your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:50 PM
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I think it's a sign of possible issues, just like guys who are into humiliation or findom. But as long as it's between consenting adults, what can ya do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:21 PM
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Probably just being friendly, some women are huggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:19 PM
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Studies have shown that if you give up smoking, alcohol, caffeine, processed foods and sugar and replace them with healthy habits, you can eliminate up to 90% of whatever joy you have left in your life. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:18 PM
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To paraphrase Seinfeld, I'd be a little uncomfortable knowing the only thing separating them from me is a thin layer of spandex :p
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:07 PM
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The guys who get picked can be just as unhinged, the difference is looks and social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:03 PM
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I would hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:02 PM
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If he has done it then he's just a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 12:44 PM
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Stay strong brother. I wish more men would learn to ignore women unless they have direct business with them. Male thirst and simping have gotten us to where we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 12:42 PM
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You mean you don't wanna fight and die at the whims of politicians and oligarchs? So unpatriotic :P
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 12:41 PM
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IMO it is a breach of trust, it's basically going through their private stuff without their knowledge. Whether you find something or not, it's a sign the relationship might not be destined to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 12:31 PM
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It's a well documented fact that narcissists and psychopaths can often appear confident and charming at first, and are good manipulators of people, so it makes sense. The incel internet bro can have dark triad traits but probably lacks social skills / charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 12:27 PM
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I was referring to guys who might be compassionate, helpful, good providers, etc., but considered weak because they are not natural leaders or self-confident enough. On the opposite side, self-styled "alphas" who can be aggressive bullies, will be seen as "strong" and thus more attractive. Hope that clears it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:13 PM
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Glad to hear it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:06 PM
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Which justifies being rude and cold to strangers, got it. Maybe it's a cultural thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:28 PM
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The issue arises when women are attracted to strong men even if they're otherwise assholes, and repelled by weak men even if they're otherwise decent. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:25 PM
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Strange how I never thought of myself as unavailable or got annoyed when someone needed assistance. I believe I'll take your advice and just look for a man next time - in fact, this seems like a good suggestion guys should follow in life overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:13 PM
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I once asked a woman for directions because Google Maps wasn't working and she was the closest person available, and she acted almost offended that I was talking to her. Some of y'all need to learn some humility and basic decency. Or as I like to say - may we all get to live in a world filled with people who are just like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:03 PM
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When women have male friends ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:00 PM
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Good, decent men have had it hammered into their heads for decades that it's wrong and creepy to approach women and took it to heart. Only the poorly socialized, fuckbois and players who don't give a damn still do it, and that's who you notice. It's become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:59 PM
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https://imgur.com/okcupid-nutshell-hNtH7B9
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:55 PM
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Of course your looks will be what attracts people, they don't know anything else about you, or it wouldn't be a cold approach. But if he did compliment something else, for example a book you're reading, I have a feeling you'd still label it as a cheap pickup line. Some women will interpret any guy approaching them for any reason as trying to hit on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:52 PM
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This is the key. Someone likened it to women fasting/dieting versus men starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:41 PM
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I think I've already addressed this. Men who choose this option would simply be paying for a service, as we all do. It's not about "not seeing women as human", it's about viewing these women as simply service providers, just as the women in question wouldn't care about those men beyond seeing them as clients. As long as both parties agree to the terms, I don't see the problem. Could this service be used by some men who genuinely don't care about women/want them subservient? Sure, and some people…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:35 PM
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But the women would still be free to choose their clients or opt out of this job entirely. In essence it's just being an escort with a few extras, so the same rules apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:23 PM
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I'm pretty sure men who want relationships wouldn't use such a service or try to substitute it for one, yeah. Unless they're desperate or not too bright.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:22 PM
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That could indeed be a problem, not to mention the skill of these providers at cooking and cleaning, compared to someone specialized in those things (who is not a sex worker.) It'd be interesting to see how such a service works in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:13 PM
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I think you're reading too much into it. If you go to a restaurant and order food, does it mean you want to control the cook and waiter, and make them obey you? It's just paying for services.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:09 PM
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Agreed, as long as clear terms are set and both parties benefit I don't see any problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:04 PM
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There's a saying regarding escorts, "You don't pay them for their services, you pay them to leave afterwards." I wonder if this is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:02 PM
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But if gets to the point where she cheats, the man is already considered weak for not having a better handle on the situation. The kicking her to the curb already happens, though of course the part about being easily replaced is not always true. I don't personally agree with it, as I said this is much more common in macho, patriarchal cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:54 PM
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And I hope Trump supporters get everything they voted for. Most of them just hoped he'd win and beat the democrats, so I guess they already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:50 PM
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It makes sense in patriarchal cultures where that man will be judged and seen as weak / ineffectual if he lets the woman do whatever she wants. It's a bit like tarnishing the reputation of your employer. In more progressive societies people don't care as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:34 PM
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That attitude is precisely why Trump won, not that I'm a particularly big fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:29 PM
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Can't pop what she doesn't have, imo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:22 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:21 PM
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Interesting. Do women who hype up a friend who just broke up with a guy by saying "eh, he was a loser who didn't deserve you anyway!", or women who tell themselves that when being broken up with/rejected, also reek of entitlement and emotional instability?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:11 PM
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It's even simpler than that imo, cold approaching doesn't work unless the guy is handsome and charming. This is the part the old seduction gurus always left out, because it would've put a damper on their book sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:08 PM
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I've seen women react with outright anger and annoyance at men they deemed unattractive approaching them. It's even worse than we think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:04 PM
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Through decades of media and social conditioning, women and feminists have conditioned men to believe that it's creepy to approach them in public or at all, for that matter. The result is that only actual creeps and fuckbois will continue to approach. Ironic, but it's what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:03 PM
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What double standards am I trying to justify? Who are you arguing with? I think everyone is allowed to have whatever standards they want in a partner, and don't know why I would care or judge what they want, prefer, or need in a partner. I said the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:58 PM
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What it comes down to is this: Would you reject a guy you otherwise loved because he didn't have enough money, and accept another one who did? Then money is the primary factor, not the man. But whatever you need to tell yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:29 PM
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Not really the same thing imo, because those factors are inherent to the person. Same for looks, personality, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:06 PM
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I have no idea, my father was a typical "alpha male" who treated me like a servant or underling while I lived in his house, now I want nothing to do with him and won't even talk to him unless it's important.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:59 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:10 PM
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Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:10 PM
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And yet the world is full of poor and middle class folks who have children and make it work somehow. Meanwhile the rich have one or two (and sometimes none), and they are raised by nannies and sent off to boarding schools (albeit the most elite and expensive ones, of course). I just think there are other factors that feel more important than money, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:23 AM
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And what is the problem with intent? Are you saying men who approach women because they're attracted to them are automatically creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:05 AM
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I've met many of these myself and I'm a guy. One time I was on the bus going home and this big dude sat next to me and asked me if I'd like to go to his place and read the bible together. Some people are just poorly socially calibrated, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:01 AM
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Men are still expected to initiate and make the first move. I've heard women say that they will never approach a guy even if they like him. So guys shoot their shot because it sometimes works. The ones who don't, go home alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:58 AM
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Seriously, these people are now treating relationships like applying for a job or a loan. I'd rather stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:53 AM
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IMO, this mode of thinking is similar to the old days when people (especially from the upper classes) sought out marriages based on wealth and forming alliances between families. Then as now, love and romance were secondary considerations. Just find someone you can at least tolerate living with and essentially have separate lives, lovers, etc. Feels sophisticated :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:50 AM
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Everyone is free to have their own preferences, but when you condition your relationship to someone based on their wealth or income, it sounds like you care about the money more than the person. That's how it sounds to me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:44 AM
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Reminds me of one guy saying he works as a lawyer and still can't afford a nice apartment by himself, it's gotten crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:25 AM
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Probably gonna get downvotes for this, but to me that sounds very cold and pragmatic. It's almost like viewing it as a business deal more than a relationship. And I know there are people who think like this, and as long as they're both on the same wavelength, more power to them. I just think that when you meet someone you feel sparks with, it shouldn't matter how much money they have. Otherwise it's just an alliance of convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:21 AM
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Oh, got it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:08 PM
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Hmm, personally I don't think I even watched anything Sweeney was in and don't know anything about her beyond the occasional pics and men saying she's hot. I'm not saying you're wrong, but she wasn't nearly as overhyped and ubiquitous as Zendaya in my experience. Or maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention. :P edit: I just looked at a bunch of pics of Sweeney, she looks like a 90s soap opera star :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:55 AM
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Dudes be thirsty and have low standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:51 AM
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In my experience when that happens it's either that he is rich, they're childhood friends, he's really her type, or she was looking for a beta provider who'll pay the bills and not be a nuisance. I've known hot women who were married to some bald middle-aged accountant named Greg and they were like "he's the love of my life!" who the hell knows anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:47 AM
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Leave it to Americans to invent a sport nobody else plays and declare themselves the champions. :P (I kid, I honestly don't care and agree that some folks from Europe and elsewhere should just mind their own business.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:44 AM
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Was this you? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:42 AM
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The problem isn't men having weird fetishes, it's when they cannot keep it to themselves / in an appropriate setting and make other people uncomfortable by being gross/creepy about it. I've got some of my own (nothing gross or illegal, just hard to find) but I keep them to myself or like-minded communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:23 AM
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Do you know them, or are you just posting pics of random women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:16 AM
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I don't hate her, just find her overhyped and overrated given her mid looks and acting ability. I think Hollywood just loves her because she's ambiguously ethnic looking and can fulfill their diversity requirements or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:09 AM
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I'm sure that is true in some cases, but I've also known guys who were actual assholes and players (and in a couple of instances, abusive), yet never had trouble getting gfs because they were good-looking and popular. It's only natural that guys who grow up being Chads will tend to have abundance mentality regarding women and generally not give a shit and get away with more things. Of course it's silly to generalize, but I think it's equally silly to claim this doesn't exist and it's just lesser…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:51 PM
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Yeah, I mean there's trailer park dudes with a prison record who have like 5 kids by 4 different baby mamas, not sure it's something to really brag about tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:42 PM
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Reminds me of FDS going on about "high value men" who in their definition are basically walking wallets with no desire except to please women. Men gotta step up fr :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:56 PM
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"Oh, why can't I find a good man? Am I doomed to loneliness? Woe is me!!" "What about all these guys?" "Eww, not them"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:55 PM
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I used to agree until I saw women who reacted with anger and disgust when men they deemed unattractive dared to approach them. No more sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:48 PM
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Making platonic friends is not a substitute for romantic relationships, just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:45 PM
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I'm sure that is a factor too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 02:23 PM
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Yeah that's what I meant, typically masculine guys who exhibit chivalry and benevolent sexism. Many women will say "I like it when he takes the lead", "he's strong and makes me feel protected", "he makes me feel feminine" etc. They do not get those feelings from egalitarian, feminist dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 02:22 PM
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It's not that women want an outright sexist pig, but most seem to prefer a guy who's chivalrous, confident and even a bit cocky in a masculine way, to one who fully respects them and treats them as equals. In my experience anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:55 AM
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IMO women like that are lonely by choice, i.e. she doesn't like any of her available options. It's men in that position who often have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:39 AM
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You would know, since it's clearly gibberish or copypasta and I just thought it was funny. Guess it flew above quite a few heads, huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 02:09 AM
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Yep, that's also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:31 PM
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I think it's a bit of both. Chads can be and often are assholes because they can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:11 PM
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I've known guys like that who did very well with women / had multiple girlfriends so...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:09 PM
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Wise words indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:56 PM
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you saying we should assume by default that all men's advances are unwanted and unwelcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:16 PM
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You're right, there is also no law that says you have to say please or thank you, or acknowledge someone who greets you, or show any common courtesy to anyone. But people might notice and form their own opinions after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:01 PM
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I guess their philosophy of putting themselves first and accepting no compromise made sense, but from what I read, a lot of them sounded arrogant, high maintenance, and no fun to be around. Then again, it's none of my business since nobody is forcing me to interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:23 PM
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I highly doubt most women would willingly go through pregnancy and childbirth to "entrap" a dude unless he's rich and they're not very bright, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:13 PM
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Sounds like a miserable time to be honest, unless you're already that sort of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:11 PM
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I've seen women get outright angry and offended when a guy they deemed unattractive tried to approach them even in a respectful way so eh, there are no winners there imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:06 PM
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What's .is? Google just says it's the domain name for Iceland.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:50 AM
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Another trailer I saw recently was for Babygirl, where Nicole Kidman plays a CEO who basically gets seduced by a younger dominant guy who treats her like a pet. Many women were going wild about it in the comments. It really made me wonder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:29 PM
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A couple of years ago I would have argued, but the more I read the more I come to agree with this. Most men in online spaces don't really care about men's issues, they just want to vent their anger at easy targets like women and feminists. It's a bit like working-class people blaming immigrants for taking their jobs instead of blaming the politicians and rich oligarchs for the current economic situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:38 AM
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Exactly. The issue is not about having/showing emotions, it's having control over one's emotions versus being controlled by them. The latter shows weakness and immaturity, which are never attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:12 AM
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OP is a known manosphere troll who only ever posts stuff like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:09 PM
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Or religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:11 PM
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How would they even know unless you tell them? Maybe it's got more to do with something being wrong with those guys which caused them to remain virgins in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:11 PM
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Things could always be better, but it doesn't mean we're living in an era of degeneracy. Unless you want to return to the normalized alcoholism, misogyny and spousal abuse of the 50s, the drugs and unprotected sex of the 60s, the hard drugs and STD epidemics of the 70s and 80s, etc. The current generation is more educated and knowledgeable about sex and dating than any other in history. They are also the freest and least restricted they've ever been. Some people will take things too far or make …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:24 PM
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Compared to when? No, honestly I don't. Are you one of those who has an idealized vision of the 1950s and the 'traditional family'?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:09 AM
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If I didn’t see obvious and consistent negative mental effects from women from continuing to date around for lust and dreams for years then I would agree. Yes, we can only look to patriarchal utopias like Iran or Saudi Arabia, where women are treated as men's property, for the answer. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:42 PM
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Bold of you assuming most of them were successful enough to breed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:35 PM
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I've literally seen guys online claim that showering or washing your ass is gay, that they don't care about dressing nicely, and they're not about to change for any woman. They were obviously redpill and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:57 PM
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Honestly I don't even know what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:55 PM
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I require attractive females for breeding! This is how real men talk!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:49 PM
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By OP's logic, it would be the equivalent of guys pumping and dumping. So either both are wrong, or neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:47 PM
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Or maybe the guy only wanted sex and faked interest until he got it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:44 PM
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Exactly, like is OP trying to say fuckbois would have wanted a relationship if only that woman had a better personality? not likely :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:35 PM
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"If I scammed you out of your money, it's your fault for being dumb and not putting more effort into figuring it out."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:34 PM
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That or physically unattractive, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:32 PM
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Sounds like a very good argument for women to refuse to be homemakers or be financially dependent on a spouse in any way. So much for all those guys wanting traditional wives, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:18 PM
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Lie about what, exactly? I simply disagree, some people having certain preferences doesn't make it "the normal" thing. You could at most say it's the prevailing preference, and so what? It still has nothing to do with feminism. You sound confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:08 PM
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To be fair, those are somewhat different things. Feminists (barring a few radical extremists) generally campaigned for equal rights and bodily autonomy. Now it's true there are some women (not necessarily feminists) who prefer men that are taller, more dominant, richer, etc. just as some men only want women who are young, hot and submissive. But those are just personal preferences, with no way to be officially enforced and no effect on others as nobody is forcing anyone to interact with those pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:28 AM
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I had a very similar experience, I liked TRP's laying out the facts and telling men what they need to do in order to be attractive while also explaining female nature without sugarcoating things. I wasn't as enthusiastic about their emotional manipulation stuff, dread game etc. Plus I often saw an undercurrent of misogyny and almost hostility towards women, which I found counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:58 AM
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If he's young, handsome and confident he could be a villain and (certain) women won't care, we all know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:56 AM
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It always felt to me like a lot of the far-right, tradcon, alpha bro types you see on the internet these days are merely clout-chasers or incels who don't actually believe in all those things and are rather just jumping on popular trends in an effort to be cool and edgy. But I do agree it's contaminated TRP and the manosphere in general to a large degree. TRP was born from the old pickup artist community and talked about how to be attractive and get laid, nowadays it's all passport bros talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:48 AM
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Hasn't it been proven that men actually win custody in most cases when they actually fight for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:02 PM
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Reminds me of an old Jewish joke. During WW2, a student finds his rabbi reading Der Sturmer. He is aghast and asks him "What are you reading? Don't you know that is just propaganda?" The rabbi answers "I'm trying to cheer myself up. The regular news just talk about death and misery and how bad the situation is. But reading this, I learn that we rule the world and control all the money and governments, and it makes me feel a little better!" :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:52 PM
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This is really just a variation of the "chicks dig assholes" trope if you think about it. In my experience, the women who go for assholes are usually young and inexperienced, have issues, or are assholes themselves. If we're gonna talk about (successful) criminals, we can include gold diggers as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:39 PM
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To those men, it's equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:36 PM
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Do women flock to those men because they're criminals? Or because they're powerful and charismatic? Think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:36 PM
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The real reason some of those groups got reported and/or shut down is because they invariably attracted a bunch of misogynist far-right extremists using violent rhetoric like advocating rape, saying women's rights should be revoked etc. I don't know of any examples of peaceful, constructive men's groups being thwarted by ze evil feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:56 AM
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Can't find it now, but I do remember at least a couple of users in the past few months implying or actually saying that giving women rights was a mistake / there will be a reckoning because women are too picky and won't date lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:51 AM
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Women: In my experience, these might be some of the reasons you're not having more success in dating. Have you tried working on these factors? PPD Men: You just lie and gaslight like all women! We know you just want Chad! (actual conversations I've seen)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:49 AM
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I would say aggression and competitiveness, like some dudes seem legit desperate to be seen as the "alpha" even it it means putting other guys down. I never understood it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:13 PM
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Depends on the argument. Like when men post some bullshit generalization about women with no documentation or proof, I might say "lol" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:45 PM
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Yes, that is indeed the correct song lyric, congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:38 PM
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Sorry, didn't realize I was talking to a high schooler. You do you lil buddy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:33 PM
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If by "triggered" you mean "I think it's really stupid and childish", then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:27 PM
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Nah bro, you must be confusing me with one of those "female women" you're always going on about. You so cool and funny :p
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:17 PM
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no u
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:11 PM
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Wtf is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:08 PM
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You sound very negative and bitter, just fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:35 PM
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OP is a known men's rights troll, so yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:39 PM
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Not to mention Big Daddy Government robbing honest men of their tax dollars to give to those whores! (actual view I've seen expressed on this sub.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:34 PM
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I've also seen cases of guys being chubby/unfit with bad skin in their 20s looking much better at 30+, so yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:29 PM
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To be honest I disagree with the view that "family and career" is the ultimate achievement or what everyone should want/needs, but it's true that other factors contribute to someone's peak than looks and physical ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:28 PM
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What if they were fat in their 20s but became fit at 40?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:25 PM
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But I bet they all still have to be fit, feminine, conservative, and submissive to men in their life. Yet women are the shallow ones for having preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 12:10 PM
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But all men do like the same archetype. All manly alpha men want blonde, fit, ultra feminine, conservative tradwives. When a man wants something else, he is shamed and called a cuck/beta/weird etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:56 AM
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Ah yes, the stoic and rational gender. Not like those emotional women! :P
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:53 AM
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Can't say I've seen a lot of that, but I did see a lot of cases where if a woman said something she was immediately accused of lying or being contrarian, and any guys who agree with her are called white knights. Except when a woman actually agrees with redpill/incel talking points, then it's "Finally, a woman who speaks the truth!" :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:50 AM
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Saw another dude around here just responding that "women lie and gaslight!" whenever a woman said anything. Not sure what the point of engaging them is, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:47 AM
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Yeah, it's because men are more thirsty / less selective. Otherwise it wouldn't matter that she only picks the top guys, if those guys weren't interested in her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:55 AM
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Because most of them don't really care about children, they just want those bitches women to get their comeuppance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:24 PM
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They also fail to mention all the women who were assaulted or killed during arguments or when trying to leave their rational husbands/bfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:59 PM
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Yep, my father was definitely the first and possibly the second, not sure. Always acted like the alpha male king of the household, treating the rest of us like underlings. Never really taught me or my sibling how to navigate life, just criticized and condescended. We don't talk much anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:55 PM
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TLDR: "You're lying, just like all women! And anyway, personal anecdotes don't matter!!!" nice counter-argument, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:47 PM
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In my experience, it's usually redpill conservative types of both genders saying the man should lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:43 PM
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I just made a similar comment, this view just reinforces the idea that (some) women treat sex like a currency more than a pleasant activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:39 PM
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Unfortunately, this just reinforces the idea that women view sex more like a currency or bargaining chip instead of a mutually pleasurable activity. I know there are reasons women would be more reluctant to engage in sex with a guy who isn't willing to commit, but it still feels wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:38 PM
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Right...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:46 PM
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Found the Andrew Tate fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:22 PM
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Geez, what happened to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:18 PM
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Sure, if you ignore all the dozens of 'alpha male' creators on Youtube and TikTok constantly making fun and shitting on 'entitled women', I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:10 PM
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Even then, there's the internet. Unless you grew up in a really restrictive family that monitored your online time, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:45 PM
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Do you guys have no sex ed or basic biology classes? It blows my mind how some adult men don't understand how periods work or can't find the clitoris. Were y'all raised in a monastery?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:27 PM
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Probably because they don't want to hurt the guy's feelings. Could you tell a female friend to her face that the reason she's unsuccessful in dating is because she's fat, ugly or annoying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:11 PM
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Hell, I'm a dude and I'm currently enjoying the freedom and peace of being single, with all the points you listed. Not saying I'm not open to a relationship in the future, but it would have to be someone pretty special, and if they never show up, I'm cool with that. Not sure what the deal is with guys who act like being alone is a death sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:09 PM
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Plenty of basement dwelling neckbeards think they deserve a young Stacy, and disparage or make fun of less attractive women, single mothers, fat or older women all the time. Yeah, some women have ridiculous standards too but who cares, in the end what matters in both cases is what they can actually get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:05 PM
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Yeah, in truth between the manosphere incels and the Jack Sparrow fanboys (and girls, let's be honest) he just had a lot more popular support. And the internet loves a witch hunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:27 PM
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I remember during that whole debacle and the trial, I thought both of them sounded like unhinged coked-up celebrities. Yet people online were all shitting on Amber Heard while treating Johnny like some kind of saint, it was crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:17 PM
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Also kind of hard to get empathy, when feminism constantly vilifies you as an "oppressor" vs It makes zero sense to hate the generations of men who respect your rights the most because like 0.05% are rapists. I can see you're totally neutral and unbiased about this, naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:16 PM
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What's the point of watching porn clips if you can't let fellow viewers know what you'd like to do to that person and how hard your dick is? That and some Indian dude always going "helo beuty princess pls mary me"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:00 PM
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My new hobby is watching girls doing Twitch streams as I read all the thirsty, butt-kissing comments from simps in the chat. It's like a train wreck, sad but can't look away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:44 PM
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But it does make sense for men to hate women because a few of the latter are radical feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:24 PM
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And once again you are pulling assertions out of your ass with no proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:23 PM
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Yeah, my reaction was "Speak for yourself sir."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:02 PM
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Sometimes this sub reminds me of those "alpha male" podcasts like Fresh & Fit where they invite Insta thots or club girls just to talk over them with rehearsed manosphere talking points and act like they "owned them". Then the host tries to hit on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:59 PM
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Not only that, I wonder which gender pushes for sex more early and often...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:57 PM
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You literally said/implied that in your initial post. This is because the two things men need in a partner are fulfilled. A. She's attractive. And B. She's a friend. Men want a friend that they get to sleep with. For women, it's more complex. A woman can lose attraction for a man that’s her “type”, just as she can gain attraction for a man who isn’t, and this comes down to behavior. I don't know why you would think this is restricted to women only.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:51 PM
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I would argue that men aren't as simple minded as you and others often make them out to be. I can and have lost attraction for a woman due to her behavior/personality as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:47 PM
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You Also you And again It's pretty clear from this and your previous history that you have an axe to grind against feminists. This disingenuous dogwhistle BS isn't helping. And honestly, can you give an example of feminists denying the empathy gap exists, because I've personally never heard of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:44 PM
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This sub is full of redpillers and manosphere dudes flocking to posts like this, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:43 PM
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As a French guy once said: "I spent my life looking for the perfect woman, and I found her; but alas, she was looking for the perfect man."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:35 PM
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TBH I'm not sure what you're saying except that women like some guys and not others - should this not be so? A woman may choose a man but nothing will happen unless he also chooses and approaches her. Since men are still generally expected to initiate, the power of decision ultimately still lies with them. In more general terms, it doesn't matter who the initiator or selector is, only that both people agree to take it further.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:34 PM
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You repeatedly blame feminists in this thread and imply they are the reason men are disadvantaged or whatever. Other manospherians are flocking to the bait. The truth is, this attitude absolutely exists but is first and foremost perpetrated by men. Women being regarded as precious commodities, "women and children first", etc are old values that predate feminism and modern thought by centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:28 PM
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OP is a manosphere troll who always makes posts like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:21 PM
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By that reasoning, you must agree modern women are also justified in hating men and viewing them as potential rapists and aggressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:10 PM
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Who says the empathy gap does not exist? I've personally never heard of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:08 PM
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Yeah, OF tends to push that model which I find questionable as well. Unfortunately it's not just an OF thing, I've heard of cases in East Asia (China, S. Korea, Japan) where streaming is big, of men sending thousands of dollars to a streamer so she will mention their name online. Loneliness and weak will are a dangerous combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:46 PM
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Is that a typo? At 350 lbs he'd be obese. Maybe 250
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:47 PM
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Simps, fuckbois and male thirst in general are responsible for much of today's dating situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:41 PM
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I see OF as just another transaction site, as in "There's this chick I like, and I know that if I pay a few bucks I'll get some pictures of her" which is reasonable. I pity the guys who go on there and form quasi-relationships with the models, sometimes spending a ton of money, believing they mean anything more to that person than a dollar figure. I think that's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:40 PM
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Hey, hagspawn are just misunderstood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:25 AM
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I had one coworker who was fat, divorced with 3 kids, and had another guy dating and living with her. I mean bless'em if they're happy, some dudes just want to be with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:23 AM
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They made fun of you? That's rough. I was kinda weird and nerdy in high school but was never really bullied, the cool kids mostly kept to their group and ignored me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:52 PM
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I think OP might like it there, probably be a fan of bacha bazi ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:04 PM
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There's no reason for you to earn as much as a man if you're looking for men to pay for you. This is very disgusting K
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:10 PM
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I didn't generalize, I spoke about a specific case. If men are fine with their partner earning more, good for them. As long as they manage to avoid their friends calling them simps and whipped. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 04:06 PM
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What the hell are you rambling about? It's hilarious that redpillers call women more emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:42 PM
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There's several possible scenarios here: Women have a higher income and don't mind. The men feel emasculated and insecure, and end up sabotaging the relationship or leaving. I've heard many accounts of this. Women just look for a guy who's in the same general income bracket. I think this is the most common case, and in fact general education level seems more important than salary. And finally, some women do look for a guy who's a high earner. The good news is, the first two cases are becoming mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:20 PM
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I think you are confusing basic rights with preferences. Yes, women should have equal rights and equal pay. If some of them still prefer a man as the main earner, that is their own business. Nobody is forcing you to seek out or date those women. How would you even approach or legislate something like what you are proposing? As a disillusioned egalitarian, I think it's disappointing that the wage gap debate hasn't been followed by social discourse on upending traditional gender norms like the pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:58 PM
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Damn dude, if you projected any harder you'd be a lighthouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:36 AM
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Please tell me you're trolling and not actually this dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:32 AM
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Men trash talk each other sometimes, but a male player is not immediately flooded with messages asking him on a date, getting creepy sexual comments, or called a dumb bitch, or told to get back in the kitchen, when he reveals his gender. Don't be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:59 PM
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Why would you assume that stuff no longer happens today? Been living under a rock?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:37 PM
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I think it got taken over by blackpill and incel types.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:56 AM
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It also has to do with men being more aggressive and competitive than women, but yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:25 AM
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It's an interesting issue. Same goes for videogames/esports. Technically there should be no gender division, yet males tend to dominate the higher ranks. It could be because videogames were male-dominated throughout most of their history, that girls who played were often discouraged by harassment and creepy behavior, or that guys do have some advantage in things like reaction time / strategic thinking. In reality it's probably a combination of factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:23 AM
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Agreed with all of this, just wanted to note that these activities should be done for the sake of getting better at socializing / making a circle of friends, not just trying to attract women, because people will pick up on that. I would also add start a gym routine, get a hobby or two outside videogames (hopefully one that isn't a total sausagefest), and be mindful of one's look and body language when going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:17 AM
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I mean OP basically admitted he's a troll who enjoys riling up feminists so...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:12 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs3OWJ53rHE Now I gotta rewatch this movie :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:10 AM
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I think some just want to shit on women and complain, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:22 PM
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Something tells me the women in those areas don't have too great of a life either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:11 PM
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I think so. I believe men take more risks and fewer precautions in general, get into more fights, etc. If we're just talking about walking alone at night or something, a woman is still more likely to be attacked than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:44 AM
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No, it's more like your default stance is to find a way to blame and shit on women in every situation, so everyone who's actually sane and balanced feels like a "white knight" to you. Touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 06:18 PM
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You know those women who posted videos of guys leering at them at the gym, trying to shame them? On several occasions it was obvious those guys only looked for a second or two, and those women were roundly condemned and called crazy, including by other women. Nobody will crucify you for simply trying to talk to a woman in a normal way. If they do, they're the ones with the problem. It's only if you keep pushing past her signals of not being interested, that the situation changes. And this is val…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 03:02 PM
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But there is no guarantee they will get those things, and no law that says they should. You're talking about basic rights vs individual preferences. Individual because not all women want a man who will support them financially, etc., but I'm pretty sure all of them are in favor of basic rights and equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:48 PM
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Your hyperbole aside, it's a question of wanted vs unwanted attention. It has nothing to do with gender, and is such a basic concept I have to wonder sometimes if you guys are trolling or just chronically online. Its like if I told you "oh, so you like pizza and will sometimes even buy it for yourself or accept it from people you like, so why wouldn't you be okay with strangers forcefully giving you pizza and insisting you eat it?" Some women say they choose the bear (obvious hyperbole again) be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 02:38 PM
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Exactly, and it can be a serious issue in more conservative, patriarchal, macho societies. Some women in those areas will share the same views and culture, but the main perpetrators of violence are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:11 AM
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On the other hand Youtube is full of "alpha male" channels who shit on women constantly. Probably says something about social media in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 10:09 AM
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Heheh, someone felt targeted by that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 10:37 AM
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In my experience, women who go for assholes are either young and inexperienced, have self-esteem issues, or are assholes themselves. Also, sociopaths can appear attractive at first due to being charming and self-confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 12:05 PM
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It makes sense too, because in their heads they associate the bad boy with someone who's fun and exciting, and the good guy with a mild, boring milquetoast. Of course the bad boys are often assholes or psychos in reality, so they seldom have long-lasting relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:58 AM
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It's only terminally online guys who think about this way too much (and probably don't go on many dates.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:45 AM
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When I think of sugaring, I picture gross old men paying young women to be their "girlfriend." Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:44 AM
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Some women do this. They will pay their share because they don't want to "owe" the guy anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:32 AM
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Then it sounds like you're changing the meaning of religion to "whatever beliefs people have to feel good and navigate the world" which is not exactly accurate. Nor do those beliefs have to be false. What about just thinking it's good to be a nice person and treat others as you'd like to be treated? There is nothing false or mystical about that. Your "NPC brain" comment was pretty ironic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:41 PM
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Fair enough, guess you won't mind then if all women consider you a potential harasser or rapist and avoid you as much as possible. If anything, they are more justified in doing so since women have been harassed/assaulted far more than men have been falsely accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:19 AM
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Well said, but sadly this is PPD, land of dumbasses with extreme takes who talk past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:16 AM
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Both of those are failures of the justice system, what do they have to do with feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:13 AM
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I never claimed to be a genius, but to be honest I don't understand how it's possible to be an educated adult and be religious at the same time. It makes no logical sense. It's really no different than believing Santa Claus is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:06 AM
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I heard it as "I love and respect women too much to inflict myself on them."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:59 AM
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But there absolutely can be a definition of good which has existed throughout history without implying religion. Virtues like loyalty, kindness, temperance or charity were known and talked about in the ancient world. People understood early on that you can't have a community of selfish assholes if you want it to grow and evolve. None of this actually requires belief in a higher power or organized religion. Religious worship did provide a sense of community, but it was also often a tool of coerci…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:55 AM
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I suppose that if people need the concept of heaven and hell to be good, it's a positive thing. It's not ideal, but it's better than the alternative. Sadly, even religion has not prevented evil and atrocities throughout history, and in fact has been the cause and/or excuse for much of it. I don't think people as a whole have evolved enough to have a universal sense of morality yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:50 AM
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If lying and deceiving others to get what you want makes you happy, that says something about you doesn't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:45 AM
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Sometimes a woman is unable to get away, as in physically trapped and coerced. Sometimes she has nowhere to go, if it's her husband, or she might fear for her job and career if it's a superior. I believe that's why this concept came about in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:30 AM
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Wasn't there a survey that showed the majority of male users in here are 18-25 year old virgins? Plus the ones that came over from redpill and incel subs. Might explain a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:25 AM
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If I constantly ask and badger you to give me some money until you agree to get rid of me, it doesn't make me a thief, but I'd still be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:23 AM
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It's a false analogy because sex is supposed to be mutually pleasurable. It's not like a massage or something where you do it because you love them. If I knew a woman was just letting me have sex with her even though she wasn't into it, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:18 AM
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It's both. They are not doormats, but they are certainly taught it's their duty to handle all the household tasks like cooking and cleaning. There have just been a bunch of threads in TwoX whose main theme was that the women had to do all the cooking and preparation for Thanksgiving and Christmas while the men sat around drinking and watching TV. Similarly, keeping the house clean and caring for the kids is usually seen as the woman's job. Not to mention women in traditional and especially relig…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:08 AM
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Got drunk yesterday, woke up with a hangover, decided to give up alcohol for the foreseeable future.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:32 PM
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Wouldn't call myself RP, but that view is more reflective of the blackpill, incel thinking that's permeated it lately. In the old days, Redpill was more about self-improvement and not putting women on pedestals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:02 PM
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Agreed, it's ridiculous. It's like if someone said "you look nice today" and you responded with "you mean I don't look nice on other days?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 05:17 PM
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I believe you are intentionally misreading a common expression, in the grand tradition of PPD men making things up to be angry about - or possibly just trolling out of boredom. I said context matters because I guess it's technically possible someone, somewhere meant it the way you claim, but I have personally never heard a woman use "husband material" in a derogatory or negative way. It was always meant as a compliment, as in "that guy would make a good life partner."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 05:14 PM
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I think you're overthinking it and purposely giving it a negative interpretation. When most people say husband or wife material, they just mean that person would be suitable for a relationship. They don't mean they view them as an object or strictly according to their functionality. It takes a warped view and some mental gymnastics to reach that conclusion, imo. Also, context matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:51 PM
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Do you think calling a woman wife material also means she's boring and dependable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:46 PM
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Just out of curiosity, would you prefer to be referred to as fuckboy material, aka someone good for sex but not a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:45 PM
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Yes, it's quite common especially in more conservative households.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 04:04 PM
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It's funny because a common complaint I heard from women was that growing up, they were taught and expected to be quiet, unobtrusive and serve the menfolk. Pretty much the opposite of what this says.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:06 PM
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I disagree. Being addicted to porn is bad, but porn itself doesn't harm you. It can open up people's minds to new possibilities and experiences, other than the boring missionary starfish sex their parents probably had once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:15 PM
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Too many guys don't understand this imo. She wants a guy who can engage her in intelligent conversation, not some autistic dude who can recite WW2 tank specs for an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:09 PM
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A Youtube video where two guys discuss what women want? Well I'm sold.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:05 PM
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Why are You Randomly Capitalizing Words like That?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:00 PM
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The women I've dated would consider that behavior a bit too much, imo, especially if they just met each other or are in the early stages of a relationship. Not to mention those guys will often feel like they are owed something for their effort, and get mad if the woman doesn't give them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:26 PM
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Agreed, I'm in central Europe and it's generally considered polite here for whoever did the inviting to pay, though splitting the bill is also perfectly acceptable. Chivalrous notions like "the man always pays and also throws his coat over a puddle so the woman can step on it" are becoming antiquated, especially with the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:24 PM
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So be that guy instead, or get a hooker if you want guarantees.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:21 PM
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What if she wants to pay? Although that could also be a red flag, I've heard women say they insist on paying when they don't want to feel like they owe the guy anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:20 PM
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Caveat, this works for guys who are attractive and got some game. If you're ugly, no woman will care whether you give a fuck or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:19 PM
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Right mentality? Sorry, the dude sounds like a bitch-ass pussy in that scenario. He could have at least have walked over and got his gf away from there, instead of waiting for the barman to do it. But then again, something tells me that if the gf had gotten hurt, all the little incels around here would be celebrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:35 PM
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Was that the Christmas gift exchange thread? I looked through it and could find no instances of "advocating extreme violence against men and boys". Can you link to the exact post? Or a different one, should be pretty easy since they do it "on a daily basis", right? That was a rhetorical question by the way, we both know you're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:21 PM
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Women's subs advocate for extreme violence against men and boys on a daily basis here, and they won't get banned because Reddit protects these people, and are pro bashing hetero men in particular. Can you provide one example? Are these women watching us right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 09:41 PM
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We'll talk when women's subs get banned for advocating rape and violence like certain incel and redpill subs did. Meanwhile, please go outside and touch some grass, I promise there are no evil women waiting to persecute you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:22 PM
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Me when I've got a reply all written up then suddenly I realize I'm probably arguing with a kid, troll or moron whose opinion means nothing to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:36 AM
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I've browsed through it a couple of times, and there is for sure some misandry and circlejerky tendencies, but most of the posts seem to be complaining/venting about shitty men. TBH I've seen far worse from manosphere communities when talking about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:24 AM
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Peak PPD, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:17 AM
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For what it's worth I agree. Men should be allowed to get a "paper abortion" which involves giving up all rights and responsibilities towards the child, up to and including being named as the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:00 PM
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There is more to it than physical attraction, personality and socializing also play a large part. I just said in another comment that from personal experience, most of the guys I know who are in relationships are not significantly more attractive than the average population. If anything, they just take better care of themselves and have their shit together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:17 PM
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Hard to say without knowing you or what you look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:16 PM
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Unfortunately, if you're holding out for a woman to be viscerally attracted to you, I've got bad news for you and like 80% of men. What is possible, however, is to be in a loving relationship where attraction actually increases over time. I've head women talk about that a lot. It takes work, but it can happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:04 PM
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Oh, okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:01 PM
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My point was that those are extreme outlier examples which don't reflect the average guys complaining about being lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:00 PM
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Some of them couldn't, and would end up marrying for convenience. Others, who are capable of being independent, would be unaffected. Either way it wouldn't solve anything imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:59 PM
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Look at all the couples in the world and tell me if you think all the men are attractive - I mean real life, not Instagram. You just have to do your best with what you've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:38 PM
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Dude yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:28 PM
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Agreed, there should be more groups and initiatives dealing with men's issues, the problem is such groups almost always get overwhelmed by trolls and woman-haters, at least online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:27 PM
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But then you'd just be back to the old times of women needing to rely on men, leading to stale loveless marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:24 PM
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And that's the problem, we just had this discussion recently and people were coming up with the most extreme examples, like "So you're saying a 4'11" cross-eyed balding dude should just dress better and get confident and he'll attract women, HUH? STOP GASLIGHTING US" like that's the issue. In reality most guys would be absolutely fine if they put more effort into their appearance/personality, but they just don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:21 PM
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Probably Andrew Tate fans, usually edgy kids or bitter divorced 40-something dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:57 AM
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The point is that men who are tough negociators and ask for things are known as assertive go-getters, while women are often portrayed as bitchy and demanding, but I think you knew that. If by "winning" you mean making things worse for people you don't like just to spite them while not really getting any benefit yourself, then congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:16 PM
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I agree, women should be more assertive in the workplace. They will be called "difficult" and "bitchy" but change has to start somewhere. What all 5 of them? Abortion isn't federally banned last I checked. Go to a blue state And if you think men have it so bad, move to Saudi Arabia.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:07 PM
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Women stay in school longer and get more degrees, yeah. Men still get paid more on average for the same job. And women are currently dealing with stuff like dying due to pregnancy complications because doctors were afraid of breaking the law by helping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:52 PM
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The thing is, those channels you mentioned aren't in any way popular nor mainstream. I dunno, their thousands of followers might disagree. Mainstream doesn't mean much anymore, everything is on social media now and it's all tribalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:50 PM
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The thing is, those channels I mentioned make no attempt to claim it's a joke, so it's pretty straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:41 PM
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You're right, that's girl stuff. Men follow Andrew Tate and talk about how all women are worthless whores, or pull an Elliot Rodger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:38 PM
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Starting a business always carries risks. It's a lot of work, a lot of responsibility, and no guarantee of success. Personally I'd rather have a comfortable 9 to 5 job, but I admire people who take that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:14 PM
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That was not even true / clearly a joke. Wanna give your opinion on the dozens if not hundreds of TikTok / YouTube "alpha male" channels shitting on women regularly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:12 PM
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Still mostly chronically online stuff. People who espouse red/blackpill in real life are usually dumbasses or losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:10 PM
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"Women say they like a guy who's funny and outgoing, but when I make them listen to my standup routine for an hour every night they don't like it! Women don't know what they want, smh"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:07 PM
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You have to wonder why those things happened in the first place, though. In India and other parts of Asia, apparently women being groped and assaulted in trains and elsewhere grew to be a serious problem. What would your proposed solution be?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:01 PM
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Username checks out :P
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:53 AM
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One thing I noticed is an increasing trend among young alt-right men to demonize porn alongside with masturbation as being "weak" and "low-T" behaviors unworthy of alpha males, something I always found funny as their hero Andrew Tate literally made his money from being a pimp.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 11:52 AM
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Where are you, Thailand?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:42 PM
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I think I know what you mean. I'm currently living in central/eastern Europe (not trying to doxx myself) and sometimes go to karaoke events and stuff where people sing pop songs in English. All the non-English speakers think they sound amazing but tbh their accents and pronunciation are often hilariously bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:00 PM
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I don't understand why some people insist on treating dating like a business transaction where they try to maximize profit. It just shows a lack of actual dating experience imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:49 PM
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It's like that old saying, "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you've run into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, maybe you're the asshole."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:48 PM
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As another member of the "dated a bad singer who thinks she's good" club, I feel that pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:31 PM
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I swear I'm losing touch with modern popular culture, I have no idea who those people are. This is basically what it feels like
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:28 PM
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Best example is this very sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:18 PM
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Better than blackpill incel doomer bullshit, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:27 PM
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It also really depends on the individual imo. I personally know a lovely woman who married a short, bald, chubby guy and they seem to be happy together. Apparently he's a good provider and a good husband, so kudos to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:38 PM
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Sounds like you're leaving something out or not painting an accurate picture then. Either that or their relationship may not last very long.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:04 PM
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I think it's a bit of both. Acting uninterested / like it's no big deal will automatically make a guy more attractive than one who seems desperate or overeager. At the same time, women have to find you at least a little bit attractive in the first place, or they won't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:35 PM
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Being interesting is just part of it, and can be a significant part when trying to attract quality women. The guy who has no interests except watching football and chugging beers will probably attract a woman with similar interests, because otherwise what would they talk about? But it's equally true that looks and social status matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:04 PM
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You mean when women died due to pregnancy complications because doctors were afraid of breaking the law by helping them? Yeah, how dare they be upset about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:58 PM
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BP doesn't really "offer" anything though. It's just common sense stuff and rejection of the more outlandish parts of RP. There are no bluepillers, to my knowledge, that are selling books or memberships to their exclusive club or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:54 PM
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Blue Pill pandering doesn't really exist because there are no BP "gurus" in the same vein as RP. BP is just a reaction, and rejection of redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:53 PM
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For real, I once mentioned dressing better and getting a haircut and got a lot of pushback and angry replies in the vein of "I'm not gonna change for anybody!" ok then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:51 PM
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I wonder what the T levels of men who stalk, assault, rape and kill women are like. Not a lot of emotional control there, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:47 PM
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Women don't want to be "coddled" on average more than men. I have to admit I sometimes wanted to vent about a problem and just have someone say "yeah man, that sucks" instead of trying to reason it away or offer solutions. That's empathy. Saying "man, I had a lousy day at work" and hearing theories on how it's my fault or solutions on how to improve it is not empathy, it's like talking to a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:45 PM
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I gotta say it explained a lot when the survey showed it's like 75% incel dudes in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 07:42 PM
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What I find funniest is when certain dudes bemoan women's lack of empathy towards men while making hateful misogynistic generalizations in their very next comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:59 AM
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Not for me, I was making 300k/year as an employee. IT or finance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:24 AM
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I agree with the part about being invisible and having total freedom. As for job and financial "failures", it's a matter of perspective. I'd rather have a relaxed job that lets me support myself and leaves plenty of time for my favorite hobbies and other activities, than some high-powered career that demands 80% of my time just so I can make more money and impress a bunch of people I don't care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:19 PM
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Honestly, most of them aren't. But it doesn't matter because men are the thirsty ones approaching women. The dating market imbalance is due to thirsty male simps and fuckbois.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 12:09 PM
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"All those gold digging whores who only care about money and status will be sorry when men get AI girlfriends" "If that's what you think of women, feel free to get an AI gf and leave them alone." "OMG why do u hate men :("
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:50 PM
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Watch out everyone, we got Edgy Gigachad over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:47 PM
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How perfectly? Is it intelligent and self-aware? If not, you've basically got an expensive videogame that's programmed to let you win. If that satisfies your needs, great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:45 PM
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Reminds me of that line about asking funeral parlors why they don't hire men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:10 AM
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True, and I think it's a shame that some men will describe themselves or their gender as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:08 AM
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Yet you imply companionship is not enough. So they should hire a housemaid and forget about marriage if it's clearly such a lousy deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:06 AM
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From the way you state the issue, it sounds like what he really needs is not a wife, but a live-in maid and cook. That way her duties are clear, they can work out fair compensation and everyone is satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:49 PM
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Gotta have those Excel spreadsheets
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:45 PM
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Fine, they should both work and split chores evenly. Or if the woman stays at home, work out a system whereby the housework she does is equivalent to the man's financial contribution. Then, next time he wants sex or affection, her question should be "how will I be compensated for this?" Finally, equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:18 PM
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I don't understand these people who insist on viewing relationships like a business transaction where they try to maximize their profit, except to confirm they've probably never been in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:14 PM
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Many of whom were stay at home wives because they could not live on their own. Are you stupid or just trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:26 PM
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I agree, I've always said the modern dating situation is largely due to male thirst and over-availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:30 PM
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Bunch of little Elliot Rodger wannabes in this thread, how nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:20 PM
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Only from the men who choose to approach her. Nobody is forcing them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:13 PM
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Not at all, are you invalidating how women feel when they talk about male height or dick size?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:10 PM
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Same here. I don't mind socializing with cool people, but not all the time. I definitely need recharge time and privacy in between. I could never be a celebrity or a politician.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:08 PM
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What incel sub / 4chan forum did you get that pic from?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:24 AM
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I don't get that either. Maybe they were saying they didn't want to be relegated to the role of traditional housewife who cooks and cleans? Need context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:22 AM
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Pro-Russia, far right, anti-vaxxer, Christian fundamentalist. Apparently most Romanians hadn't even heard of him, but he had a viral following on TikTok due to thousands of accounts spreading his videos. People are saying he was boosted by bots originating from Russian groups. Just shows a large percentage of people are easily influenced idiots tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:20 AM
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This was actually taught in the past, unfortunately it also went hand-in-hand with "women shouldn't think for themselves and must obey their husbands" and if the husband wanted to cheat, come home drunk, and smack her around a little from time to time because dinner was cold, well that was just part of a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:53 AM
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I've seen men refer to high n-count women as sluts and whores with disgusting used-up bodies, then innocently claim they're just stating their preference, so I'ma take that with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 08:45 AM
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Yeah, in my experience men mock fat women far more than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:41 PM
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I've seen multiple redpill/manosphere dudes talk about how dating is so easy for women because they just have to not be fat, which is easily achievable if they just don't eat like pigs, so yeah. Actually, after reading your post, I have to wonder if you're trolling and I just took the bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:38 PM
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Yeah, I think there's a difference between trying to be your best self and pretending to be someone you're not in order to get a date. The former is more or less expected; the latter will just lead to disappointment down the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:48 AM
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So you're saying women should go back to being submissive housewives if they know what's good for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 05:32 PM
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So lone women are in more danger... from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:18 PM
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You give them "kudos" because they are cherry-picked examples which justify your hatred of feminists. You'll see what you want to see, I guess. There is plenty of criticism of both individual feminist figures and parts of feminism as an ideology. There is a reason most women do not associate with radical feminists and figures like Valerie Solanas or Andrea Dworkin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:15 PM
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Not to mention the blackpill incel nonsense ignores other factors like personality and social skills, which can make a big difference in a man's attractiveness irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:06 AM
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It's also like saying you're not a true Christian unless you identify with and approve of certain Church officials' abuse and pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:30 AM
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higher risk of getting attacked/assaulted How did feminism lead to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:23 AM
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Of course they can't, they will just ramble and deflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:23 AM
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Nowhere in that rambling did you answer the question though. When were men ever oppressed by women as a class?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:22 AM
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Not to mention that premise is flawed. The movement is much bigger than a few extremists, even prominent ones. I wonder what these guys would say if you told them they can't call themselves redpill if they don't agree with the school shooters and blatant misogynists who were/are leaders and prominent figures of the movement. Same argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:20 AM
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That's like saying you cannot call yourself a Christian unless you accept and identify with all the prominent Christian leaders who were responsible for oppression, abuse and atrocities throughout history. In other words, bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:17 AM
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I was pretty surprised to find that in certain parts of the US, women could not get a bank loan or a credit card without their husband's permission until the 1960s or 70s. Puts things in perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:10 AM
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Women have the upper hand only as far as men let them. If men are desperate enough to simp for women and put up with disrespect or abuse, it's on them. Nothing is stopping them from ending a relationship if they so choose. This is why I disagree with the double standards thing as well. A man doesn't have to put up with bad behavior. And when a man leaves the relationship, if he got a real crazy broad, she might trash his car or something. When a woman leaves a crazy dude, he might stalk and kill…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:28 PM
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a female Hmm, yes. I too desire females for mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:38 AM
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Sure, but it's not women who always complain about being lonely and dateless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:50 AM
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If money mattered that much, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos would be the most attractive and lusted-after men on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:35 AM
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I mean Notch talked about being single and finding it hard to date after becoming a multi-millionaire post Minecraft. In his case he thought women wanted a more "normal" guy, which is fair, but looks and personality still matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:33 AM
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I don't, she did. I don't always agree with Lilith, but it's hilarious to read the rabid replies from manospherians whenever she makes a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:28 AM
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"Shut up, you're stupid, men have it worse, blah blah" must be that vaunted empathy. Still proving OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:27 AM
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Still not as bad as east Asia, apparently. But I guess time will tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:25 AM
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No, just low birth rates and worsening gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:21 AM
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And you're still continuing to prove OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:21 AM
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And you still got it wrong. She never said anything about not being allowed to have preferences, that was your strawman interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:20 AM
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Agreed, as long as you apply the same standards and judgement to men and yourself. Actually I've heard about societies in Asia that are very uniform and people are shamed/criticized for being out of line in any way, sounds like your cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:16 AM
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Heh, I don't always fully agree with you, but this sub is really full of incels and manosphere dudes. The response to your post was predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:14 AM
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Even if you're admitting you only read the title (lol) I still don't see what's incorrect about it. If you go out of your way to hate on women you don't consider attractive, you've got issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:12 AM
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it's not out job to wipe snot off her face And we have our own female friends and relatives with their own hysterical neuroticism. Yeah, I can see you're totally unbiased about this, thank you for demonstrating exactly what OP was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:00 AM
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If you flaunt your money, you're gonna attract women who are after money. Might as well advertise on a sugar daddy website.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:22 AM
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Unlike blackpill, I also believe that most people's looks can be improved. Some people who are genetically cursed with actual birth abnormalities have a very hard time of it, but the "average" guy can meet enough women's subjective looks criteria to be able to meet someone if he develops all those other things too. The trouble is there are a lot of guys who are skinny or fat, have antisocial hobbies, lack social skills, don't groom themselves properly, dress like slobs, and don't bother to fix a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:19 AM
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Literally most of your post is "What about the men" and finished with a "gotcha". No need to be disingenuous on top of it. If you really think men and women face equal risk and should feel equally safe while outside and confronted by a stranger, I don't think there's any point to any further discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:12 AM
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I didn't mean you personally, but the group of men who often complain about women's lack of empathy. And I disagree, you can have empathy for an individual you know personally, but not for a group online that's mostly known for misogyny and hateful rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:09 AM
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You pretty much did exactly what the OP was talking about though, i.e., turned it around and made it her fault while going 'what about the men'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:46 AM
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Maybe women would have more empathy if you stopped referring to them as dumb worthless hypergamous whores etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:42 AM
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I mean just look at the situation in the US at present, Americans have shown that they would rather vote for a sleazy old convicted felon than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:40 AM
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I'll never understand people who hang out on this sub while claiming to be happily married with wonderful children, etc. It's like going to a forum for people with eating disorders to talk about the amazing lunch you just had.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:39 AM
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Yet they absolutely talk and act like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:01 PM
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Just as an aside, I personally always hated the "daddy" thing and found it creepy and off-putting. I don't wanna date a woman who infantilizes herself and acts like a naughty child, and I look askance at the men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:35 AM
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Reminds me of that /truerateme sub where a bunch of neckbeards rate pretty women a 6/10 because their jaw to nose ratio is off or some BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:30 AM
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The blue pill doesn't cover any of this stuff in fact it does the opposite by preaching that women are wonderful angels I have never seen this said outside of the context of redpillers claiming that's what BP says. At best it's a silly strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:48 AM
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Honestly, a lot of RP could be summed up as "Don't be a fat slob, be interesting, and act like you have value." Guys like OP are saying it helped with self-confidence, but then many take it too far and become cocky manipulative jerks. Does it work on certain women, sure, but you gotta wonder if that's what they really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:48 AM
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The positive parts of the redpill (have self-confidence, work on your health/fitness/appearance/finances, don't put women on a pedestal, be an interesting person) are fine but also nothing special, as they are reflected in mainstream advice. The other stuff like dread game, negging, and viewing women as lesser than, will make you a misogynist douche. There is no doubt that some women are attracted to misogynist douches who appear strong and confident, at least in the early phases, but you have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:33 AM
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I don't think you need official data to know there's a big overlap between redpill and incel groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:27 AM
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Do you have an example of what kind of clothing you find “provocative”? When she shows her ankles like a whore!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:43 AM
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"Laying pipe" has always sounded to me like a euphemism for taking a shit. Brb, gotta lay some pipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:46 PM
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I have to agree there, none of that experience sounds appealing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:46 PM
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I've dealt with both types and if I had to pick friends and/or neighbors I'd rather go with the straight-laced law-abiding nerds than the drunk party animals. Maybe because I'm laid back myself, but I'd rather live a quiet peaceful life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:44 PM
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I dated a girl like that. To be precise we went on one date, where she got drunk and made a scene plus nearly broke my phone. Not worth it, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:40 PM
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I take it you'd be down for that kind of fun ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:36 PM
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If anything I think sometimes this sub is too lenient with the blatantly misogynist shit that gets spewed by the redpill/manosphere crowd on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:19 AM
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On the other hand Youtube for instance is full of "alpha male" channels shitting on women constantly, and I don't see anybody canceling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:12 AM
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Thankfully you've got a plethora of mainstream porn where hot muscular guys with big dicks ravish women, and call yourself hetero watching it. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:01 PM
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Judging by the online response, if the tactic is "trying to make men mad" it seems to be working pretty well imo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:47 PM
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I don't get it tbh. The only guys obsessed with this are the ones who probably weren't getting laid in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:41 PM
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The guys writing that are the ones who wouldn't see any changes from this movement, as no women would get near them before either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:13 PM
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Again, the only men's subs that got banned were the ones advocating rape and violence. You accuse me of lying and arguing in bad faith, meanwhile you are dodging the issue and can't even respond to what I'm saying. I don't know why I waste my time like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:23 PM
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The only male spaces that were banned, got axed for advocating violence and rape against women. If there are women's subs that do the same for men, I am fully in favor of banning them as well. So far I haven't seen any.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:10 PM
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Any place like that is gonna attract its trolls and unhinged lunatics, whether male or female dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:39 PM
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TwoX definitely has too much negativity, but it's mostly women complaining that there's too much misogyny and hate coming from men, not saying kill all men.
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:27 AM
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True, men should be allowed to get a financial abortion which includes giving up all rights to the child, up to and including being named as the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:15 PM
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Agreed, as long as the father is legally obligated to pay child support as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:44 PM
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That article only talks about how Democrats didn't do enough to win young men over by addressing men's issues directly. It doesn't say Republicans or anyone else did any better, so what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:15 PM
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I would say autistic virgin (not meant as an insult, genuine assessment based on their posts)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:10 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/apples-to-oranges-BqPzT You're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:10 PM
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Those guys would gladly shit their own pants if they thought women will have to smell them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:32 AM
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But then you might also extend that reasoning to not helping a person who doesn't share your political views, etc. It's just tribalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:12 AM
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I think a better simile would be "Society encourages you to lie, cheat, and screw people over (and get away with it) to get rich." Much like bad boys with DT traits, we might not necessarily want to emulate such people, even if we hold a little envy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:22 PM
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There are still a whole lot of thirsty desperate dudes and fuckbois out there, unfortunately. I think men could actually do with having a little higher standards and more self-control.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 02:04 PM
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so edgy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:39 AM
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https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000561198/ No good movies, right. Dude is probably a zoomer/gen Alpha who grew up on TikTok and YT shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:38 AM
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These men often grow up in cultures where they are taught that women are inferior creatures meant to serve them. It's not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:34 AM
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This, I've said before that present day dating issues are largely due to male thirst and over-availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:20 AM
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There was a funny quote I read once, something like women want a smart guy who can have a conversation, not some autistic nerd who can recite WW2 tank stats for an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:14 AM
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Dude kinda seems like an immature asshole / hard to live with but I guess the money makes it worthwhile? I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:14 AM
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What he means is "Women better shut up and learn their place if they know what's good for them" even if he won't come out and say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:07 AM
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https://64.media.tumblr.com/cfb4cbdf3fd5332b05afcfead765adce/tumblr_n04ntpy6Eu1qb5wbbo1_1280.jpg Of course, this was drawn by a leftie, so YMMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:02 AM
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Yeah, but that goes for everyone in porn, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:30 PM
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There is a much greater demand for women in porn (which is primarily produced and consumed by men). Was this really ever in doubt?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 11:15 AM
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I've heard of two scenarios concerning singles events: No men showed up, or men did show up, but the women ignored all but the top 1 or 2 guys. Doesn't really seem like a good deal for the average man, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:43 PM
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It's more complicated than that. Outside of looks, women are attracted to power and confidence, even if the guy is otherwise an asshole. They are repelled by weakness even if he's otherwise a good guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:54 PM
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On a similar note, when pushed on the whole “women want bad boys” topic, guys just admit they want the quantity of women that bad boys have. So how are you gonna complain about women not wanting actual nice guys when all you want to do is be the bad boy? I disagree with this last part. We don't want to be bad boys, we're just annoyed/bitter that it works so well. It's like it's possible to feel bitter/envious of someone who got rich by stealing and scamming people while you are working at a regu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:52 PM
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My favorite part is when the main character climbs a hill and doesn't hear anything, so he says "This is truly... a silent hill." (idk i haven't played the game)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:13 AM
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Redpillers posting here be like
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:31 AM
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You know, any and all the men who bark warnings about all men at the girls and women in their life, greet dates at the door with shotguns, make “all men are scum” statements, claim that boys and men can’t control themselves, etc since forever. Or men who are jealous and controlling of their SOs, checking up on them and not letting them be alone, or getting angry if another man so much as talks to them. Always wondered if it's projection on their part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:08 AM
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I mean you can do whatever you want. But if your natural personality is "I love all animals and want to cuddle them" you can't expect to be a good hunter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:57 PM
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IMO the core of it wasn't so bad, it was basically just be confident, stand your ground, be proactive, and don't fear rejection. The canned lines and routines were cheesy, but they were meant for guys who had no idea how to talk to women. The biggest sin of those PUA guys was that in their quest to sell books/guides/lessons/whatever, they ommitted a very important factor, which is looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:34 PM
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You just gotta be careful how wide of a net you cast, because you don't want to be known as "that guy who hits on everyone". It obviously works much better in larger cities where you can belong to different circles that don't intersect each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:32 PM
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That's a good one, just gotta stay away from windows, or not ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:33 PM
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Sometimes it feels like guys can't win. If we ignore women, we're ill-mannered boors. If we try to talk and socialize with them, unless we're attractive, it's "eww, why is this creep talking to me?"; plus in this case, they probably didn't want to disrespect the guy by getting overly chatty with his woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:22 PM
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For a bit of positivity, what are some things you enjoy about being single? For me it's: Knowing I've got the whole apartment to myself, and it's as clean or dirty as I want it to be; Being able to eat whatever I want, whenever I want, without someone else commenting on it; Can decorate the place however I like; Go out on a whim, or stay in, get drunk and play videogames, I don't have to worry about someone else's schedule and wants; Sleeping and waking up when I feel like it Farting to my heart…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:18 PM
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What that girl experienced is what non-Chad men go through on a regular basis, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:57 PM
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That is pretty weird, imagine the outrage (and rightly so) if the genders were reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:54 PM
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Something tells me the guys shouting the loudest about this don't have any kids and are in no danger of having them anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:34 AM
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Attractive people have an easier time in life overall. It's only when they get older and their looks begin to fade that they start being treated like everyone else. By then they'd better have developed a personality and other skills, or they're in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:11 AM
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As with many topics here, it's an excuse for a certain segment of the sub's population to shit on women. They're not interested in solutions or real discussion, just getting their daily hate-boner on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:01 PM
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I guess, if they ignore the part about him being a literal pimp currently investigated for fraud and human trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 05:15 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:39 PM
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Looks like the Bogdanoff twins had a sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:32 PM
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Not a big fan of horror here, I like the occasional one with supernatural fantasy elements. Never been interested in straight-up slashers or gore. Yeah, I know some people are horror fanatics, I don't get it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:30 PM
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Wtf, everyone in that story sounds like a child who never learned to communicate or govern their emotions. And they're supposed to be in their 30s? Feels made-up to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:27 PM
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Ursula Le Guin is as much fantasy as sci-fi, and I wouldn't consider her writing particularly "nerdy", as it's not heavy on science or anything. It really leans more towards the young adult genre, but y'know, actually good. The Earthsea trilogy is solid fantasy fare, and short stories like Semley's Necklace or Those who Walk Away from Omelas are thought-provoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:18 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:22 PM
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This is a good and comprehensive answer, but I don't think OP will be interested in it given his post history.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:59 PM
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A 0.3-0.4 point difference is not that great, but if true it's indeed a problem. It could be that the environment of schools and what is required of students (sitting still, being quiet, having discipline) is easier for girls than boys, that's been known for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:57 PM
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Where are those studies? The last study I read was about Japanese medical schools purposely giving worse grades to female students because they didn't want women doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:44 PM
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OP is just another dude in his "look for reasons to shit on women" phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:00 PM
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How many men are regular gym goers versus women? How much effort do women put into clothes, makeup, and various cosmetic procedures like hair and nails, versus men? Didn't see those statistics, probably because they would've hurt your biased opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:58 PM
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True, but that's not what I was talking about. I never claimed all average/ugly guys are good partners, or that all good-looking high-status men are not. You're just doing the "not all men/women" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:36 PM
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Women go for guys with looks and status hoping they'll be good partners, then find out they're not. Shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:23 PM
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What does it mean though? Because I've also heard that men who write too much and/or use emojis give the "ick" as they appear unmasculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:42 AM
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Some admit it, or it's fairly obvious from the way they talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:49 AM
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Sure, some women might be turned off by men with high bodycounts, but it's much less common. They usually don't care, unless the guy has a reputation as a player.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:42 AM
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Miscellaneous
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:40 AM
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Of course all that happened. Sure they were opening their doors, not securing them and turning on the alarm? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:40 AM
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It's a belief very much rooted in patriarchal societies throughout history. Women were often expected to be virgins before marriage, sometimes even checked, and a woman who had sex was considered "unclean". There are also other reasons, like men feeling insecure about measuring up to past partners, or wanting someone who's inexperienced and easier to manipulate. You can see this with the passport bros and dudes advocating for age-gap relationships. Finally, some men believe in purity and saving …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:29 AM
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I've had people try to take advantage of me, but only rarely and not to a great extent. What happened more often was me wishing I'd been more forceful and assertive in saying no or standing up for myself. Unfortunately I grew up with a narcissistic bullying father, and it took me a long time to overcome my people-pleasing and conflict-avoidant tendencies. Still working on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:23 AM
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Half of this sub is 18-25 year old male virgins and manosphere incels, afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:17 AM
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Of course, a Veyron would require a driver who can afford it and has the skill to drive it, not some sad middle-aged dude who can't put it in second gear. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:14 AM
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Yes they do, and the reason they want virgin or low n-count women is because they don't like the idea of their property having been used by other men before them. Always has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:10 AM
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I grew up with an emotionally immature mother and an overbearing narcissistic father who treated me like a servant. Messed me up enough that I never want kids of my own. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:12 AM
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one of the things that made me want my boyfriend is is he had money and was successful So you're a golddigger? :P But I agree, the pillars are usually looks, money, status and personality/game. None can be neglected if one wishes to be successful in dating. And the thing about looks is that while they can't be changed (short of surgery) you can improve your "look". Better haircut, clothes, overall hygiene, fitness level, etc, can go a long way. Only doomer blackpillers go on about canthal tilt o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:08 AM
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Maybe it depends somewhat on which part of the world you're in, but at least around here (central/eastern Europe) money and status definitely matter. For some women, I daresay more than personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:59 AM
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Not sure that still happens, given how many guys I've seen brag online that they would never help a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:58 AM
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Self-defense is well and good, until you take it too far and/or get unlucky, and then you're either dead or in prison for manslaughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:57 AM
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Or the commercials that portrayed men as bumbling fools who needed to be rescued by women. Although I can understand the reasoning, I'm glad we're moving beyond those.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 08:52 AM
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Pretty sure I'm not even on their radar, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:12 PM
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Not true. It's about men bitching that all women are stupid unfaithful whores who live life on easy mode, and also that they can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:10 PM
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If that were true you should've been banned long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:06 PM
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And some apparently come here to brag, which I find in bad taste. It's like hanging on a forum for people with eating disorders to talk about the amazing lunch you just had.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:03 PM
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Peacocking was a thing with the early 2000s seduction gurus. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:03 PM
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They sound like a nature documentary. "The female will grant the male sexual access if he has displayed enough value. But the lucky male must still be wary, as competitors lurk nearby!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:46 PM
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I didn't mean to imply that the second was not a hookup. They could start the exact same way, she just goes further with the second guy because they're more compatible. The "countless men are able to have long term relationships but are completely shut off in the hookup world" is a redpill incel fantasy, unless we're talking about fringe cases like she's a gold digger or settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:43 PM
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I see nothing too outlandish, good for you if you found your type. Curly hair and big nose huh? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:07 PM
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Yep, or try central/eastern Europe, where if you don't have money and a nice car, you're not even considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 11:46 AM
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Can't tell if troll, bot, or idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:51 PM
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"Cooperative"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 07:51 PM
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And a deep desire to visit Thailand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 03:03 PM
2

Actually wouldn't a liberal democrat be more for freedom whereas the republican / tradcon folks are for the traditional family, marriage, love Jesus, have lots of kids and keep the white race strong and pure, sort of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:49 PM
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People have been saying the same thing since ancient Greece and Rome, yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:48 PM
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Yeah, some women will misuse the term as "a man who disagrees with me", not much you can do about that except ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:45 PM
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In my understanding, "mansplaining" refers to a man smugly explaining to a woman something she already knows, and refusing to listen to her. So unless you do that, you should be fine :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 02:11 PM
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no u
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:27 PM
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Most accounts I know of are of men feeling the way I described, and lashing out or ending things because of it, but whatever makes you feel better I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:23 PM
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In my experience it's a two edged sword. On one hand, it is possible for the person who makes more to start feeling resentful, especially if they feel the other partner isn't pulling their weight. They might also treat that partner condescendingly. On the other hand, the person who makes less can begin to feel frustrated, insecure and emasculated - as it's far more common with men than women. Basically, healthy communication and a mature mindset is needed from both partners to make the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:22 PM
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See what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 12:02 PM
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I just thought it was funny :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:57 AM
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I think certain men do prefer women who are less intelligent, because they're more gullible and easy to manipulate, plus those men usually feel angry and emasculated when a woman is smarter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:56 AM
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Anyone who actually thinks Trump is a better choice is just... never mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 11:53 AM
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I heard a saying: "Republicans will gladly eat shit if they believe Democrats will get to smell their breath." I guess it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:21 AM
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One thing I like to wish people, no matter who they are, is: "May you get to live in a world filled with people who are just like you." I think it's a good sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:06 AM
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Not American so I don't really have a dog in this fight, but when people talk about voting for a black person to feel represented, it usually means they hope that person will understand the particular problems and struggles Black Americans face and will do something to address them. But someone like Trump doesn't care about anyone except himself and his rich friends. Elections should be interesting either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 10:01 AM
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Do you believe a Trump presidency will somehow help your situation, or do you identify more with him than other candidates?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:58 AM
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Of course they do, it depends on the woman. What I'm saying is there is no point asking this question since there are enough thirsty dudes out there who will hit on any woman as long as she's halfway decent looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 03:46 PM
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As long as the world is full of thirsty desperate guys, women will bring whatever they feel like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 03:40 PM
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There are constant posts on this sub about how: women are evil women have no empathy for men that Dave Chappelle quote on how men are loved conditionally etc. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 12:58 PM
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Some people are just natural downers / attention cravers. It can be a form of narcissism, always looking for sympathy and attention without actually doing anything to fix your problems. I don't think anyone enjoys being in a relationship with someone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 12:26 PM
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To what, be a 1950s comic? "Women, always yakkin' away, amirite fellas?" laughter and applause
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 12:13 PM
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There are male escorts, but as you said they usually cater to older women and/or men. Also the successful ones are very good-looking, impeccably groomed, well-mannered, etc. The ones who just think it's an easy way to get laid won't last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 12:04 PM
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Couldn't the same thing be said about male incels? I've seen pictures and many of them would look decent if they got a haircut and some nice clothes. The problem must be in their personality/attitude/social skills. It's also true that they may have a harder time because women value these things more than men, at least initially.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:23 AM
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The overall tone also matters. I like to use Horizon Zero Dawn as an example (haven't played the sequel yet.) I think Aloy is alright for the most part, and the game has fairly well-written characters and an interesting story. But there is a subtle undercurrent of "women are better than men" throughout. Nearly all the males in the game are evil, foolish, or in need of women's help and guidance. Meanwhile the women are written as strong, wise and self-sufficient. The story itself presents men as …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:17 AM
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It's all in how they're presented. I've played great games featuring well-written female protagonists. But if it's got a tone of smug superiority, or if they change a male character to a female one and imply that anyone who doesn't praise this move is a misogynist, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:11 AM
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What's not to love about crowded dancefloors, overpriced drinks, and music so loud you can't have a conversation? :P
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 07:06 AM
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Femcels are different in that there may be more guys willing to have sex with them, but not date them or have a relationship. It's just another kind of loneliness in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:59 AM
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There's an old saying about how if you get swole at the gym, you'll get the most admiration from other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 06:56 AM
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It's about calling sensitive/caring guys gay and giving the impression that she prefers some emotionally cold 'alpha male' thug (with money) instead. I've met the type.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:18 AM
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Dunno why but she gives Melania Trump vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 11:11 AM
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You have a date / hookup with someone who's hot but otherwise dumb, boring, or incompatible. Things don't go any further. Later on you meet someone who may not be as immediately hot, but you still feel attracted to them. Furthermore, they've got a personality that vibes with your own, are a good partner and fun to hang out with. You start a relationship and attraction only increases over time. This is regardless of gender. What the f is so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:48 AM
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It's their own little way of asserting some authority in their otherwise crappy low-value lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:09 AM
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Lots of clubs do that. They want to keep an equal gender ratio (no sausagefests) and are wary of singles / groups of men starting trouble. I once went to pick up my sister from a club and they wouldn't let me in, I had to wait outside. Not that you're missing much, I can think of so many activities better than loud-ass music, crowding and shitty overpriced drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:07 AM
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Many women say the same thing, i.e., "You're not competing against other guys, you're competing against her freedom and peace of mind." It's just modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 09:06 AM
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Explains a lot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 08:59 AM
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The males of some mammal species, when mating with a new female, will kill and even eat that female's existing cubs. Maybe we should do that as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 08:09 PM
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Sorry, don't remember asking for incel opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:20 PM
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Well, you would assume a man who asks for a paternity test is at least suspicious of his partner, warranted or not. What other true intention could there be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:18 PM
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"Biological" means nothing unless you expand upon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:16 PM
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I fully understand feeling frustrated and betrayed if a woman knowingly deceived you into raising a child that wasn't yours. My point was 1) it's not the child's fault, and 2) guys who react with disgust and call it "playing another guy's saved game" or similar things don't strike me as very good people in general. In other words it's about tone and context. If you sound like a manosphere douche, I will treat you as such. It's not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:02 PM
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I'm saying your example is dumb because both the husband and the friend had to be knowingly in on it. A child doesn't know they are not related to you biologically, they just consider you their parent unless told otherwise. At most, you can blame the mother for deceiving you and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:58 PM
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Except in your hypothetical scenario, he clearly did. Do you understand the difference between a child and an adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:49 PM
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I hasted my father and he got double the movement rate and attacks per turn, sorry not sorry. edit: aww, he fixed it :P
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:48 PM
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You wear a seatbelt because it's the law. Imagine if it wasn't required and you were like "I'm gonna put it on anyway because I don't trust your driving." That would be closer to a fair comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:45 PM
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Not equivalent, because the child doesn't knowingly deceive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:41 PM
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No yuo are the crasy blue hair femenist!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:40 PM
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I get it, and I completely understand not feeling the same way towards an adopted child. The difference lies in the tone and how you make your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:37 PM
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Acting out with revulsion at the thought that a child you helped raise isn't biologically yours makes you a pretty disgusting human.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:35 PM
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Yes, imagine the horror of raising a child who doesn't carry your DNA, even if the child considers you their father in all other aspects. Guys who talk like this are probably the same ones who claim only cucks date single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:18 PM
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Some guys try to establish a quasi-relationship with the model in question, which I think is sad (and also OF is pushing this idea.) Others, like me, just like the look of a particular model, want to see some naked pics, and don't mind paying a few bucks for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:15 PM
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A chimp will absolutely fuck you up. Jamie, pull up that video.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:13 PM
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Sorry, all I could picture was this: https://youtu.be/hZ45RU2Xty0?si=U4YI-_HyiI6trgtQ&t=51
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:11 PM
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Just gonna paraphrase what I wrote yesterday The ones arguing the loudest for paternity tests seemed to be redpill manosphere dudes whose argument was essentially that women can't be trusted, and they should be fine with it anyway if they have nothing to hide. Responses that the woman in this scenario would feel hurt and un-trusted were basically ignored and hand-waved away. Some said that if a woman should be fine with a paternity test, then the man should be fine with subjecting his phone and/…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:39 AM
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Short guys should be like: "Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm, and well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Mmm."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:18 AM
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The dude still sounds like a bitchy Karen who was milking this thing on purpose. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he starts telling her that she's gonna be on TikTok / won't stop running his mouth. I mean he makes another video about it one year later... the comments were rightfully roasting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:40 AM
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It's looks, money, status, and personality. They're obviously focusing on looks and ignoring the other pillars. If you lack one of those, you'd better be making up hard in the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:34 AM
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She found it on the floor, asked around, and intended to give it back. She says as much in the video, and does not behave like a thief. Personally I wouldn't have picked it up, but I guess she tried to do the right thing. Sorry to interrupt your daily anti-female hate wank.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:28 AM
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She should've left it there, it was none of her business. Dude is a drama queen who needs to calm the f down. I have spoken
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:18 AM
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I agree her examples weren't the best, so we can make them more equivalent. Say that every time he wanted a DNA test, she should be allowed to check his phone and email to make sure he's not cheating. Now it's not illegal for either of them. Although honestly, these are all silly games. If I were a woman and my husband was asking for a test to determine whether a kid is his, I would say "Go ahead. But no matter what the result is, I will know you don't trust me and things will not be the same be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:37 PM
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In addition to spending their time in manosphere communities, the men raging about paternity tests are probably the same ones who believe marrying a single mother is a cuck move and 'playing another guy's saved game'. Real Prince Charmings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:29 PM
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Like many others arguing in bad faith, you are nitpicking at details and dodging the main issue here. There was a thread here recently where a bunch of manosphere dudes were arguing vehemently that a man should demand a paternity test for his children, and that his wife should be fine with it if she's got nothing to hide. Arguments that the woman in this scenario would feel hurt and like he doesn't trust her were hand-waved with claims that all women are basically cheating whores anyway - you kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:26 PM
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There was a thread here not too long ago about how men should be entitled to demand a paternity test, and it was full of manosphere dudes claiming it's justified because women cheat and can't be trusted. I think that's what the OP is referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 12:47 PM
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She probably thought of it as a harmless joke but I agree it's kinda shitty. Not quite to the level of the comments howling "DIVORCE NAO" but it'd still leave a bad taste. For example, what if a guy was at a Dua Lipa concert holding a sign, next to his wife, that read, "Dua, I just got married, but I’d leave my wife for you! P.S. she’s right here"? Just as wrong, but honestly? In that case I can envision many comments, from this very sub and elsewhere, calling the guy a based Chad and the wife a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:19 AM
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I see, thank you for your valuable input.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:03 PM
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As that French guy said: "I spent my life looking for the perfect woman, and I found her, but alas! She was looking for the perfect man."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:36 PM
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I guess that would work too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:05 PM
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If I ever get married, I'm taking my wife's name. Not because I'm a simp, but because my father was a narcissistic, psychologically abusive piece of shit, and I'd rather have her family name than his.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:01 PM
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Yeah, I hate that degrading stuff too. I think it's also contributed to young men thinking that women like being choked, slapped, and treated roughly during sex. Maybe some of them do, but it's by no means universal, and communication beforehand is important. It's funny because I sometimes watch Holly Randall's channel on Youtube where she interviews pornstars, and naturally I get curious and want to see some content of the person she's interviewing - but I typically look for a nice striptease o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:37 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:31 PM
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That's why I don't watch it anymore :P
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:16 PM
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I think they're confusing "young people actually turning towards religion" with "edgy alt-right teens sharing Deus Vult and tradcon memes"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:52 PM
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Isn't that the definition of a cuck, if you think about it? Watching another guy fuck a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:36 PM
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When the action is heating up and the camera focuses on the guy's sweaty ass or face, I do ask myself questions - about the director and/or cameraman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:33 PM
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Personally I'd rather not look at naked dudes but hey, whatever gets you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:20 PM
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I don't need to self insert to enjoy it. And watching a dude have sex is not self insertion, I'm just watching another dude going at it, which I'd rather not. As for trans, I've occasionally wondered what it'd be like to be the opposite gender but no, never seriously considered it, and I'd know by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:20 PM
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Since there were a couple of porn discussions earlier, what do you think of it? I'll watch it sometimes, but my number one rule is no men - if there's a guy, I'm not interested. Then again, 90% of mainstream porn doesn't interest me anyway, and what does is often hard to find. I also think guys who enjoy hardcore stuff are at least a little bit gay, and like looking at dudes' asses and junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:50 AM
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it's not sexually gratifying You'd be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:59 PM
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Looking at that user's previous history, it's almost entirely comments of being turned on by raunchy stories. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's some dude pretending to be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:55 PM
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It reads like trolling/ragebait to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:25 PM
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There is also the fact that 90% of mainstream porn is made by and for men, so I'm not sure what that says.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:15 PM
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I'd wager the women who actually shame guys for their dick size are in the same category as the men who tell fat women to kill themselves, in other words a minority group that isn't worth interacting with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:13 PM
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My question would be how do we even know the fart is hers? Maybe she got her boyfriend or some dude to fart in there for a laugh. Even if I were perverted enough to want something like that, I would never trust such a product. Same with guys who buy used panties and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:35 AM
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Also not being an alcoholic is a big advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 10:32 AM
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Yes, there are problems but do you think Trump will solve them? He only cares about himself and his rich friends. I honestly don't even care about his lies or whatever, he's nearly 80 years old and showing early signs of dementia. For all of the republicans mocking Biden, he's actually not much better. There has to be a better choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:12 AM
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Most people are trend followers, always have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:10 AM
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He probably doesn't want more exposure as an 'entrapranure' :P
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 12:08 AM
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Unlike Republicans and so-called "pro lifers" whose hearts break for the unborn fetuses but don't give a shit about actual children. "Welfare for single mothers? Fuck off, pull yourself up by your bootstraps!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:59 PM
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If men could give birth, abortion would be justified and guys who did it would be "based Chads".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:41 PM
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Can you give birth? then stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:26 PM
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It's no coincidence that many virulent anti-abortionists are men. It's easy to talk big about an issue that will never affect you directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 01:24 PM
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This, there are different types of gamers. The guy who plays a game for an hour or two to relax after work is not the same as the one screaming racial slurs into his mic and punching the wall when he loses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:30 PM
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Agreed, it's a similar thing and shows distrust in your partner. So you're either okay with both of those things, or neither. If we were to get really nitpicky, we could look at the number of instances a woman was abused by her spouse/boyfriend versus the number of times a woman committed paternity fraud... the results might be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:46 PM
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Then by your own logic, you also agree it's reasonable for women to keep an emergency stash of cash and supplies to get away from a man at any time; to assume all men are potential rapists, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:24 PM
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It's a mix of both, imo. Many guys could use some self-improvement, which doesn't need to be as hard or impossible as some make it out to be - improving your fitness level, fashion and social skills isn't some insurmountable obstacle. At the same time, these will help but they are not magical keys to attracting everyone. Sometimes you just won't be somebody's type - but you may be someone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:56 PM
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I'd actually love to date a female "loser" who isn't obsessed about the gym or her career, who enjoys cuddling, playing videogames and ordering food or cooking. She doesn't even have to be gorgeous, just cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 10:57 AM
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Wasn't there an Arab country, I forget which one, that had a women's rights council composed entirely of men? That was pretty hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:22 AM
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IMO, men occupy more of the extremes while women are more clustered around the middle. There are more male suicides, homeless, low income, etc., but also more political leaders, CEOs, high level managers and leaders in their respective fields. Unfortunately, the ones at the top rarely care about the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 11:21 AM
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No it doesn't, it implies that personal ethics and morality have no correlation to romantic or sexual success (though some may argue there is some proof for an inverse correlation).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 09:20 PM
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I'm starting to believe a big problem with society is that we've got too many arrogant assholes getting away with everything because people are too scared, polite, or apathetic to stand up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:18 PM
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Sounds like a bunch of apes fighting and posturing for the right to mate with the finest females. I'd like to think we are a little more evolved than that, though sometimes I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:15 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvK6KsLkPUs
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:42 PM
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You're right, it's misandric, I messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:54 PM
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Speak for yourself, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:49 PM
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Ironically, claiming that men are slaves to their biological nature and unable to overcome it is a misandric statement. It's the same reasoning middle eastern theocracies use to make mandatory hijab laws and everything else, because "men can't help themselves when tempted to sin."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:44 PM
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Yeah, personality can definitely increase (or decrease) someone's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 10:51 AM
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Never said they were, I was just responding to your statement that guys who are successful with women get unfairly labeled as assholes by jealous lesser men. Sometimes the label is correct, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:14 AM
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No, the guys I'm talking about were verbally and physically abusive, macho, assholes and cheaters. It wasn't some jealous nice guy's fantasy, they were actually like that. Police were involved in several domestic incidents that I know of. In my experience, about half of the self proclaimed decent nice guys are manipulative orbiters pretending to be a platonic friend while waiting for an opportunity to pounce. And their MO is to constantly criticize the guys she actually likes by calling them dou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:11 AM
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The difference is observer bias. Unpopular men invariably rate popular men as bullies and abusers, because it’s easier to digest someone’s success when served alongside revenge fantasies. Not entirely true. There is a sour grapes element, sure, but I've personally seen abusive douchebags get multiple girlfriends while decent regular guys stayed single. It's not always a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:55 AM
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Sure sure, and maybe get the village elders to check if she's a virgin, and stone her to death if she's not, as God ordained.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:49 AM
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We've gone from 5+ to 50 now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 08:08 PM
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"real man" aka dude who jerks off to Andrew Tate videos
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:48 PM
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I bet she buys a lot of peanut butter too ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:30 PM
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Yeah, I remember reading somewhere that only the top 1% make any real money
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:36 PM
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Look good in a dress? That's objectifying! He likes the dress? He's probably gay :P
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:59 AM
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So what's he supposed to do, compliment your ass instead? Men have been taught only creeps do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:29 AM
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Same here. She was young and naive and fell for my narcissistic jerk alpha-wannabe father. At least she never attempted to give me dating advice, just asking when I'm gonna find a girl and give her grandkids, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:24 AM
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I can't imagine getting married and being with only one partner for the rest of my life. Especially with the risk of a dead bedroom situation on top of it. I'd rather stay single and visit escorts, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:35 AM
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Ironically, the only ones ignoring that advice were the actual creeps, harassers and fuckbois. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 10:27 AM
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True, unfortunately it was probably the "none of my business" effect
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:58 AM
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Can't speak for others, but if I saw such an ad I'd probably think it was either a kink that the couple was into, or some kind of scam. It's sad that nobody reported it, but it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:46 AM
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Also similar cases in India, etc. I dunno what to say either, it feels like too many men are just animals with no empathy or morality. The fact that they probably come from poor, low-education backgrounds is not an excuse (see Epstein, Harvey Weinstein etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:43 AM
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Also, so many people (especially guys) don't know how to take a good picture of themselves or just don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:49 AM
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I think it depends, if the good guy is shy or not as socially skilled, while the dark triad guy is a cocky alpha jerk, plenty of women will go for the second guy all else being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:44 AM
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Yeah, depending on where you live and especially online, you could easily be accused of racism and shut down/banned for such views. We live in an era of political correctness and hypersensitivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:25 PM
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I think he's trying to point out the other half of the equation, which is that these fantasy men are often strong, powerful brutes, which the woman will get to tame. See the romance novels about not only warlords, but mafia bosses, pirates, etc. While you're right about him being misunderstood and not really a "bad guy" inside, there is also the thrill of taming the powerful alpha, who will love her and her alone. Of course there's also the case, in fiction as well as real life, of women going f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:48 AM
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That's a good point. It can be likened to men watching and enjoying action movies. I can fantasize about being a badass hero shooting it out with the bad guys, but does I mean I actually want to be put in a situation where I'm getting shot at, and possibly killed or maimed for life? Probably not. More on-topic, there are fantasies I've had that I would never ask a woman to act out in real life because they just wouldn't work / would likely be disappointing. Some fantasies should remain as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:41 AM
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As long as you're socially calibrated and can take rejection like an adult, this is de way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:12 AM
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Yeah, that's the part that sucks. I usually get IOIs from women I'm not interested in. To quote George Costanza: "When they like me, I don't like them. When I like them, they don't like me."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:10 AM
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It is, I just think it's much harder to make it work and actually translate it into a date, especially in this day and age. Guys who don't have the looks or charisma would just end up feeling rejected and disappointed. I know the philosophy is to "fake it till you make it" but it's hard to act confident and go through a hundred "no"s before you get a yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:57 AM
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Here's my view: If you are worried that she'll reject you, or even tell you to fuck off, it's probably a cold approach and she hasn't given any indications of interest. In cases like this, most guys would indeed get rejected. A much better idea would be to meet someone through friends or an activity, so you have something to talk about, and try to let the interaction flow naturally. Cold approaching just doesn't work unless the guy's got looks and game, but then he wouldn't be afraid of approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:52 AM
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female PhD students talk about the loves and lives of people regarding social science theories between talks about the lives of the scientists who made these theories. And you've noticed this because you've witnessed such conversations, or are these "facts" pulled out of your ass to support your hilariously sexist world view? You don't have to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:41 AM
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So you're saying that men actually dumb down their conversations when women are present? Why couldn't the same be true of women then, making the impression that they only like gossip or whatever, equally wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:59 AM
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Why? The exact same argument can be used. Movies and videogames are for those who lack imagination and the ability to have exciting adventures themselves. Listening to music is for those who can't play an instrument themselves. Watching sports is for those who can't play a team sport themselves. Not only is it silly, they're also not mutually exclusive. Just as you can watch porn and still have a normal sex life with a partner. You can of course choose not to consume any sort of porn, which is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:43 AM
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Sorry, but that's a bit like saying "watching movies is beta, you should be getting into fights and adventures in real life." As long as you're a well adjusted individual and not prone to addiction, it's just another form of entertainment. You could even watch it with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:03 AM
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I'm not the one getting all defensive about it and feeling the need to reply. I mean you guys are practically outing yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:59 PM
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I'm halfway convinced hardcore porn directors are secretly gay, the way they focus on the dude's ass or face just as the action heats up. I don't even like it personally, prefer solo or g/g content if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:08 PM
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Where do you live, Saudi Arabia?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:14 AM
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No, what's funny is you're having a meltdown over a small throwaway joke. You must be fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 10:10 AM
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It was just a joke, not a dick, don't take it so hard :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:33 AM
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I'm curious, do you have a girlfriend? Alternatively, do your mother and/or any sisters know you view them as inferior creatures?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:34 AM
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The more they protest...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:32 AM
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If you're going to stereotype like that, might as well say most guys don't talk about anything except sports, cars, getting drunk, and maybe videogames. Oh, and making faces and nudging each other when a hot woman walks by. Bruh acting like dudes are some bastions of intellectual and gentlemanly thought, my ass. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:21 AM
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It can be if their main goal is to brag to their bros. Kinda like guys who watch porn where some chick is getting railed by 5 dudes with big dicks, and think they're so manly and hetero.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:57 AM
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Men who sleep with a lot of women are admired and called studs, women who do are shamed and called sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:37 PM
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They certainly weren't Henry Cavill when they were single. Maybe a little better looking, but not by a huge margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 09:57 AM
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I've never been, but I heard/read accounts from men saying that the women usually crowded around the most attractive guy there and ignored the rest. Doesn't sound like a fun time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:58 AM
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I actually know a couple of short bald fat dudes who are married with kids. Sure, their wives aren't supermodels either, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:08 AM
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Not everyone is worth arguing with, and I've had my fill of incel manosphere bullshit for the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:05 AM
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She never said she wasn't as attracted to him, that was solely your assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:03 AM
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What if she wanted to make certain you're not just a fuckboy who will pump and dump her? Or are you mad because that was in fact your intention?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:29 PM
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"Females are illogical, beep boop"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:27 PM
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Sounds to me like you aren't really looking to argue or discuss anything, just to reinforce your own biases by stating your opinions as fact and selectively dismissing any opinion or argument that doesn't fit your world view. It's a poor way to live, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:26 PM
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I think it depends on what the date entails. Would she make him do it while she watched and/or relaxed with a drink in her hand? Yeah, the guy's a sap and being taken advantage of. Are they getting down in the dirt together? It's a cute idea and might lead to a connection / something more down the road. It's all in the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 06:03 AM
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Pretty sure most of these guys already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:56 AM
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If that were the case, why look for a relationship at all? Just to have an easily available sexual partner? I guess that could work, gay dudes are apparently pretty happy. You'd miss the depth of an emotional connection, but it's fine if you were never looking for that in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:55 AM
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The way she probably sees it is, would you rather be someone she's willing to have a deeper long-term relationship with, or some fuckboi who's good for a night of fun but she doesn't see a future together? Most women would think the first option is better, as genders just think differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:44 AM
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I believe what she said was that he was husband material, not hookup material. It's indeed a question of men and women seeing things differently, as most women would be flattered and so she assumed that he would be as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:42 AM
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You mean a situation which would not exist if men weren't so thirsty and desperate, which was precisely my initial point?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:31 PM
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Sorry you feel that way, it sucks living with a persecution complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 06:55 PM
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That doesn't even make sense. Do women hold collective power over men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:15 PM
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If only more actual fathers were like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:29 AM
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And whose fault is that? I've always said male thirst and over-availability is at least partly to blame for the current situation. If men showed some self-restraint and dignity and raised their standards, we'd probably all be better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 08:27 AM
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The incels I can understand; the ones that intrigue me are those who claim to be married or in a relationship and still act like virulent misogynist crackpots.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:32 AM
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There was that (in)famous TikTok video with the woman who was approached by a guy in a parking lot trying to talk to her, and she just screamed at him and locked herself in her car or something. Or another one who ignored the guy approaching her, then tried to get away from him, until realizing he was trying to return her phone that she dropped. Events like that might color men's perceptions of coming to a woman's aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:27 AM
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Yeah, I just mentioned this in my own comment. Men might be more reluctant to help women because they've been met with suspicion and hostility in the past. Like literally the scenario where you're trying to help and she goes "I have a boyfriend" or just ignores you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:24 AM
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One possible explanation I can offer is that men have had the experience of trying to help a female stranger and be met with suspicion or hostility. But I do agree we could use more empathy as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:21 AM
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I have to agree with this, unfortunately. I've rarely if ever seen girls in HS or later going out of their way to be nice to the nerdy/ostracized guys. Usually they'd just ignore them. People stuck to their cliques for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 08:18 AM
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Agreed. What I like to wish on people, no matter who they are, is "May you get to live in a world full of people who are just like you." I think it's a good sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:50 PM
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Hope that psycho piece of shit spends the rest of his life in prison, but yeah, it can be risky to try to approach/intervene in disputes like that. There have been other cases where both the man and the woman turned on the "rescuer". Better to just call 911 and get out of there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:44 AM
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They don't even rush when there is a gang of a few guys with knives a machetes causing chaos it once took them nearly 40 minutes to arrive. Probably too busy arresting people who said something racist about that gang on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:11 AM
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Yep same here, I just don't see myself trading my current peaceful, stress-free life for one of work, worries and responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:54 AM
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Those examples don't work because they're about infringing on other people's rights and freedoms / committing crimes. You can absolutely do whatever you want with your car, gun or printer as long as it's within the law. Same goes for your body, men and women alike. A woman refusing you sex is not a crime (although some men would like to make it one...)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:25 PM
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What is your alternative solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:23 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:51 PM
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So work hard and one day you may get a gold-digging trophy wife too. I believe in you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:49 PM
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You forgot to mention you are also taller than 100% of professors, have a bigger dick, and could beat all of them up. Thanks for the laugh. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:42 PM
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Spoken like a disgruntled garbageman, lol. University professor sounds like a pretty good gig to me. Vacation time, decent salary, and once you get tenure you're basically set. The road to get there is by no means easy though. It takes years of working in a department, doing research, publishing articles, and sometimes facing the competition. Feel free to keep calling them dumb though, I'm sure you're far smarter. How many books and articles have you published?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:33 PM
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Sounds like the road to being a tightly wound, joyless sociopath imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:28 PM
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Why do so many "self-made successful" people online sound like self-centered jerks with no empathy? Just something I noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:23 PM
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But is your business card nicer than Paul Allen's?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:22 PM
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No it isn't, if anything it leans toward misogyny. Just look at any video where a woman slaps or pushes a guy twice her size, he retaliates by punching her with full force, and comments are full of "bitch got what she deserved", "enjoy your feminism" and "equal rights, equal lefts". Look at any meme where men/boys are portrayed as fun and quirky, while girls are lame and boring. Look at threads where Redditors are foaming at the mouth about false rape accusations, yet in discussions about actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 10:16 PM
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Was it related to that TikTok clip where they're at the restaurant and the guy basically humiliates his gf/wife when she says he should pay, by reminding her that he's the main breadwinner, as if she's his servant and should be grateful? Because he came off as a douchebag in that, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:46 PM
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While I agree that anyone has the right to divorce their partner for whatever reason, in this particular case it sounds like the guy was looking for an escape from his marriage and found this as the perfect excuse. You don't divorce a woman you love and want to build a life with because she looked at your phone. Just my read on the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 02:43 PM
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The power to enslave women and treat them like property, I'd guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:03 PM
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But at the same time you have to be attractive and have existing social proof, otherwise she won't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:09 PM
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And she made me watch the entire Twilight series which was just...a true experience. I think she hated watching that with me though because I was constantly laughing. That just sounds like you were being an ass, ngl. Would you have liked it if she constantly laughed at LotR?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 06:05 PM
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Not reacting and staying out of things that don't concern you is also an option. Do you butt into conversations in real life too when someone complains, because you and others have it worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:08 PM
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By that token you should never be allowed to complain either because there are people who are poorer or in worse situations than you, so shut up and man up. Do you see how stupid that sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:07 PM
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Yes, all women who aren't married to a young Brad Pitt secretly resent their husbands and feel like they settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:46 AM
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Ok, but the same logic holds true, find out who those men are and what makes women attracted to them, then make a plan to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:42 AM
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Funnily I know a guy who did exactly this, they've got a one-year old kid now too. He looked a bit down last I saw him, missing his carefree partying days, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:22 AM
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Then you gotta combine the qualities of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:19 AM
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Then I guess it depends whether you wanna be the fuckboi or the husband, and guide yourself accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:15 AM
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Beat it, chick!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:08 AM
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Yeah, most women prefer guys who look fit and healthy, but not gym rats (unless they are one as well.) I agree about skinny men though. Looking like a twig ain't a turn-on. You are almost better off being slightly chubby. I feel the same way about women. I'm so glad curves are in and we're past the 90s 'skinny and flat' aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:06 AM
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Look at the women you're attracted to (regular ones, not celebrities). Look at their husbands or boyfriends. What do they look like? How fit are they, how do they dress? There ya go.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:05 AM
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I know some women who are attracted to skinny nerdy dudes, effeminate goths, or chunky bearded bikers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:03 AM
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I was referring more to your lines about women who don't have children being a burden on taxpayers and how you believe "women have all the power now" and imply things were better when they couldn't vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:59 AM
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Must be one of those guys who thought The Handmaid's Tale had some good ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:56 AM
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Unfortunately the extremist voices on both sides tend to be the loudest. I've noticed this sub isn't great for discussion or nuance as there's a lot of trolling and people talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:55 AM
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Single people have been traditionally portrayed as sad or lonely in much of popular media and culture. Women are spinsters or cat ladies, and men are either swingin' bachelors or losers who can't get a girlfriend. Thankfully, it's gotten much better in recent years as there is more acceptance of single people and recognition that marriage isn't for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:39 AM
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Gotta go with OP on this one. Yes, there are double standards and differences in women's vs men's dating experience, but it does get tiresome that whenever a woman talks about her problems she is flooded with "BUT THE MEN HAVE IT WORSE" replies. It's not a contest, and this comes from someone who generally agrees that women have it easier when it comes to dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:35 AM
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I don't think this is wrong per se, but when women say stuff like this they already imagine the guy as being hot. Average guys don't even register on their radar. Conversely, hot guys can often act like self-absorbed d-bags and still get female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:14 AM
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In fact I remember a date I went on a couple of years ago, we were shooting pool and she was saying stuff like "you're so good", "your arms are so strong" etc., and I knew I was average at best and she was obviously laying it on, and it just felt weird. Maybe she was used to guys eating that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:18 AM
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It's like the oft-repeated sayings that men want women who laugh at all their jokes, or women who aren't smarter than them. I'm sure it's true for some men out there, but it gets annoyingly generalized. It's never been true for me, and I would never be turned on or attracted to insincere praise or flattery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:17 PM
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I remember a study or survey done a while ago on this sub which showed there was a majority of 17-25 year old male virgins, which kinda explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:42 AM
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There is only one problem with that theory - the desire to reproduce is not an inherited genetic trait. Otherwise those lacking it would've been bred out millennia ago and only people who are eager to have kids would have been born by now. Yet we're seeing the opposite - more and more people especially in first-world countries are choosing not to have children, to the point that population is declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:41 AM
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Yes, and some who were born would have been better off ending up inside a condom than being dicks to others on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 10:24 AM
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*To women who are attracted to status. Which... seems to be most of them, really "Become a celebrity" is not an actionable solution, just as "start a car company" is not an actionable investment strategy. Neither I nor (I think) the OP were claiming that it is an actionable solution, nor looking for one here. It was more of a vent or realization. It is what it is, in other words. See? You can't even stop yourself. You openly acknowledge that these women are chasing the status (as women who are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:00 PM
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I just answered that, because it proves that personality doesn't matter as much as status, and striving to be "nice and respectful" will probably still have guys going to bed alone while some rapper who talks about "bitches and hoes" throws a party and bangs five models, often at the same time. Look at what women do, not what they say. If they ignore decent guys and flock to assholes with money and status, what is the point of being nice and decent? Sure, you might say it's about having internal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:36 PM
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But famous men who treat women like shit while still getting tons of women? Woo boy do they love to talk about that. Well yes, because it proves a point. The point is, guys who are unsuccessful in dating are often told "iT's YoUr PeRsOnALiTy", which is a bluepill lie or at least a half-truth. Personality does play a role, especially for long-term relationships, but when it comes to dating it's apparently not nearly as important as looks, money and status. Women, especially young and beautiful, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:17 PM
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What red pillers sell is "if you're famous and wealthy enough, you can treat women like shit and many women will still want you," Which is true, and we have countless real-world examples to draw from. They don't want to change their personality; they want to treat women like shit but be attractive to enough women that it doesn't matter. It doesn't, or at least not as much compared to looks, money and status. Alpha bad boys with high status have women flocking to them despite (or maybe because) t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:48 AM
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I actually said this last week, but I was watching a podcast with two semi-famous female comedians who both admitted they were into bad boys with tattoos, drug habits and commitment issues. Not that I was surprised, but it still stung a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:42 AM
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I'm already halfway there. I'm not completely against the idea of a partner, but they would have to be someone really special to make me give up my current peace and freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:31 AM
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Like going to the gym? I'd say they are about on par with men, at least around where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:29 AM
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I once made an argument that many men present as slobs who don't seem to care about their appearance and got a lot of pushback in terms of "I dress how I want", "Women don't get to dictate what I look like!" and even stuff like "Grooming yourself too much is gay and effeminate", and I say you do you, but then they shouldn't complain about not attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:27 AM
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To be fair women have more options in terms of makeup and clothing. Sure, men could wear a tailored suit or something, but outside special occasions they'd look like they were trying too hard or showing off. On the other hand, it's equally true that many men neglect their appearance to a high degree and could be improved with only a few changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:23 AM
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I am so tired of seeing Blue Pillers imply that men are just uglier than women and that's why they have fewer options. Do they say that? It's true that men put less effort into their appearance (usually) but the main reason is that men are much thirstier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:21 AM
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I'm sure some women do that, and a lot of men do it too. Many men are ridiculously arrogant/competitive and willing to look down on others for all sorts of reasons, from income to being able to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:19 AM
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Or an S
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:27 PM
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So I just saw the new Deadpool movie, and it was alright. It had some cool action sequences, a few laughs, and a nice ending. But I think it would've been even better if it went easier on the edgy 13-year old humor and focused more on its cast and especially the relationship between the leads. I'd give it a 7/10. Overall not sure if worth the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:23 PM
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It's really not, whataboutism at its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:06 AM
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Normally I'd agree, but in this case she's a fighter herself. Or maybe he should just watch her next fight and say her performance was a turnoff for him, see how she reacts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:04 AM
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She is a fighter herself, but still sounds sociopathic with that lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:59 AM
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Truth. The older I get, the more I appreciate a peaceful stress-free life. I can do what I want, when I want, without having to take somebody else's wants and needs into consideration. And having grown up with a narcissistic, overbearing, control freak parent, the feeling of being free and on my own is something I'll probably never get tired of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:51 PM
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If you didn't tell him to actually start the dryer, maybe he thought you wanted to do something else first. I've lived with control freak people and would've been afraid to start that dryer without being told, because I would've probably gotten yelled at. "Why did you start the dryer, did I tell you to do that??? I just told you to put the damn clothes in!!!" Of course, there is an equal chance I might've gotten yelled for not starting the dryer when I should've known I was supposed to. So um, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:58 PM
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Yeah, killers and other criminals getting love letters and marriage proposals in prison has been a known thing for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:53 PM
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I don't know anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:23 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:03 AM
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It's common especially in younger gay/trans people to make their whole identity about it, some can be annoying for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:02 AM
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Just watched a podcast featuring a couple of reasonably hot female comedians talk about how they were both attracted to hot tattooed bad boys with drug habits and commitment issues. And no, they were not joking or being ironic. Welcome to the world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:58 AM
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And then another guy gets the job because he was better-looking and they just liked him more. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:39 AM
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So guys who weren't natural Chads in their youth might as well kill themselves because there's no self improvement and their life will never get any better, is that the gist of what you're trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:03 PM
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Okay, he said "most." Not "all." But he did directly state his generalization for most women in his title. So... at the very least, multiple billions of women. Yes, I'm sure that's what he meant. No? Didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:48 AM
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OP seems to have deleted his post, but from what I recall he was talking about the women he's met and dated. How could he talk about "all" women, as there are roughly 4 billion in the world right now? Just curious, if a woman said men are trash, as many do, would you have the same response for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:54 AM
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This reply makes no sense to me. It's like if OP said "Man, the people I've met lately have been lousy friends" and you answer "Oh yeah, so why try to have friends at all then?" Umm, maybe because they didn't enjoy being lonely / were hoping for some socializing and good company?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:23 AM
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I didn't get the impression that OP excused men for similar behavior, he said it's more understandable from a logic standpoint. He didn't say what men did was less serious or more forgivable, which seems to be what you concluded. As for ghosting or blocking, it's frankly childish and immature. Everyone would benefit if people just learned to communicate honestly and openly with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:19 AM
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Strange how there is no description of the attackers... wonder if we'll hear more on this story or it'll be left to quietly die out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:27 AM
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It does, it's been shown that women are more attracted to guys whom they perceive as popular and dominant within their social circle, and especially if other women find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:55 AM
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Yeah, it's not rocket science. Just the top 20% in terms of looks, money and social status. If they're lacking in one aspect, they're making up hard for it in the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 11:54 AM
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Yeah, it usually means "I don't find you attractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:27 PM
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Not true. Yes those guys exist, but I've often seen perfectly decent guys online get accused of being a creepy "nice guy" if they ever made a hint of a complaint about women rejecting them, no matter how it was phrased.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:26 PM
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Sadly true, if you look at the likes of Andrew Tate, Fresh & Fit etc., and all their followers. I know a lot of their fanbase are edgy teens and bitter divorced 40-something dudes, but still. I'm all for male self-improvement and assertiveness but some of those guys seem like they want to live under Sharia law or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:57 AM
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I don't think anyone but assholes and radical feminists/white knights has a problem with manosphere groups that just talk about self-improvement and support for men. The problem is when these groups start attracting certain types of individuals, who are also the loudest. Look at your own points for a second: "men have more to lose in divorce, and women initiate most divorces", "women treat you as an ATM", "prioritize your own interests over your partner's". These are fine in the context of a sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:53 AM
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Agreed. Kudos to those who found their soulmate or whatever, but for the rest of us being single and free beats being tied to a relationship, in my view at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:26 PM
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I've been thinking about this recently. Could it be that women gravitate towards bad boys / assholes, get mistreated by them, then generalize the asshole's behavior patterns to all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:35 PM
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And then everyone stood up and clapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:45 PM
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Random anecdote: I used to have a coworker who was a single mom. We got along pretty well as friends, so one time she invited me over for dinner. Her kid was also there. I started getting the feeling that she was looking for a "family dynamic" and even though they were both perfectly nice, I started feeling trapped, almost like I couldn't breathe. As I left, I was genuinely happy to walk out of there and taste freedom once again. That's when I knew these kinds of attachments aren't for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 11:36 AM
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Eh, low inhibition helps if you're hot and/or socially skilled, it comes off as cringy and annoying otherwise. It's like the "be funny" advice, gotta know how to do it because nobody wants a clown. I think there is a grain of truth to what OP is saying, but I'm somewhat more optimistic about being able to self-improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:10 AM
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Posting here while living in a European timezone always feels like I'm talking to myself when everyone is asleep. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:09 AM
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Good on you. I usually sleep better when I'm sober, actually. Being drunk made me fall asleep faster but I'd wake up after a few hours with a dry mouth and feeling like crap. Not something I miss, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:27 AM
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Fair enough. I could have sworn I read several articles about career women having difficulty finding men in the same income bracket and preferring to stay single, but I'm too lazy to look for them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:55 AM
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Something has to give because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that the more women out earn men, the lesser men there would be to earn more than them 🙄 +/facepalm Which is exactly what's happening, high earning career women want men who are at least as successful as them or moreso and often won't settle for less, ending up 45 and single with 3 cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:34 PM
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Not to mention vapid, shallow and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:17 PM
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The key is, when they mention those qualities they already envision the guy as being hot, they just don't mention that because to them it's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:09 PM
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So what would be the correct answer when a guy likes a woman he isn't friends with yet? Letting her know right away and asking her on a date? Many women will say that is also creepy because "he doesn't care about her as a person and obviously just wants sex" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:15 AM
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Not only that, I'm not even sure that "he wasn't really a friend" is the only possible explanation. Maybe he really liked this girl and felt hurt when she rejected him, followed by feeling he couldn't be around her anymore, especially watching her date other guys. Would that make him a creep?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:13 AM
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Yes he’s wrong. Yeah, plenty of average dudes dating hot women because they're just that good in bed. Life isn't a sitcom. As for the irrelevant topic shift of your comment. Why do so many men pine for their crazy ex gf after they got married to plain Jane? Humans crave variety Same reason, she was probably hotter / more his type.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:56 PM
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Yep, I think we've all experienced or seen someone try their best to impress a woman and make her laugh, only for Chad to come along, say whatever pops into his head, and she's already into him. It's hilarious that women would deny this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:43 PM
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Is he wrong though? Being hot is not enough by itself, but without it the rest doesn't matter. Why do so many women pine for their bad-boy ex even after they got married to a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:37 PM
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I've seen women act angry/offended when a guy they deem ugly or below their league tries to approach them, it's like a universal thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:59 AM
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I'd say it depends on the guy and where his problems/deficiencies lie, but working on his looks, career, social skills, and attitude around women is a good place to start in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:29 AM
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Yes, I'm sure they are witty geniuses otherwise, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:24 AM
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Damn, I better go to the drugstore and get some ointment for that sick burn, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:17 AM
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People have found the love of their life at 50 or 60. If it happens, it happens. If not, those people are most likely fine by themselves anyway. I don't see the point of this negativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:38 AM
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I think it depends on the person. One of my good friends has a 2-year old, and as much as I think she's cute and enjoy playing with her, I don't think I could handle the constant need for attention and supervision, the diaper changing, the feeding, the crying and tantrums, etc. I just value my peace and freedom too much. There's a small park near my apartment where I often see tired parents with crying, screaming kids in tow. No hate towards the parents, it just isn't for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:36 AM
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Simps, fuckbois, and desperate dudes of which there are plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:18 PM
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I've always said that women's attitude today is at least partially caused by male thirst and over-availability. Remember FDS saying "dick is abundant and low value"? Sadly, they weren't wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:42 AM
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It's looks, money, social status, personality/game. And of course whether he is her type or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:42 AM
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Don't forget boring and unable to have an interesting convo, that's been my experience anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:39 AM
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Still sounds like "Western men did women a favor by letting them be equal citizens and those bitches are ungrateful" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:52 AM
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I mean if we're talking about this sub in particular, I see way more users who openly hate women and talk about them with contempt than the reverse. Women generally only get insulting when they respond to guys like that. Do you have any examples showing the contrary?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:50 AM
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It is if they had no reason to ban it. r/incel was banned for advocating violence against women if I remember correctly. Is there a female-oriented sub that does the same and is allowed to remain?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:59 AM
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I'm all for letting people do what they want in the bedroom, but to play devil's advocate for a bit, if a man or group of men overwhelmingly prefer porn that's violent or degrading towards women, saying "it's just kink" may not be that great of a defense. Would you make the same argument for people who regularly consume loli hentai content, for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:45 AM
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That sub has been dead for over a year, it's just links to their podcast now. I think they moved to a private site or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:43 AM
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I remember an article that said most of his audience was 14-25 year old male virgins and divorced 40+ dudes in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:20 AM
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Plenty of men with old-fashioned, conservative views are in positions of power though. Plus you've got people like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson etc., gaining traction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:09 AM
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I just picked the white male example because I actually think it's become more rare to see them in virtuous heroic roles as opposed to buffoons or villains. I don't think there's anything reactionary about that. But this is moving off topic. I agree that older movies had more defined heroes and villains, as opposed to modern ones where everything is shades of gray and everyone is flawed. I get tired of that sometimes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:59 AM
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Yep, and if you say anything bad about it online, you are usually told to shut up, quit whining / quit being so sensitive, men have nothing to complain about etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:50 AM
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I've actually been looking for a modern movie or TV show featuring a white male protagonist who is heroic, virtuous, not a clown or a fool, and doesn't get bossed around or upstaged by women. It's been surprisingly hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:45 AM
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Wrong. All behavior where you have a goal outcome is manipulative. It's about the intent. For example: Negging is more honest. If someone has a huge nose... they factually have a huge nose. You're conflating facts and honestly with manipulation. If a woman says "I'm the most beautiful woman in the world and way too beautiful for you. When she factually has a big nose and you say... well to be honest you have a big nose there is no way you're theeeee most beautiful girl give me a break. Are you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:59 AM
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You're right, an insincere compliment can also be manipulative. Its saving grace is that it can actually make a woman feel better, whereas negging relies on preying on her insecurity. Are women just children and simple word tricks take away all their agency? 🤣 Some women are more susceptible/vulnerable than others, and some men enjoy targeting those women in particular. It speaks to their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:01 PM
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I'm willing to bet I'm older than most of the dudes on this sub, and also this is from romcoms again? So can you actually point out any popular advice/guide from the era that said differently? I should have put money on the "they're not REAL red pillers" rebuttal. I mean they don't describe themselves as RP nor follow the ideology, the fact that you're labeling all of them as RP doesn't make it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:50 PM
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So Grandmas and romcoms. You have no intention of arguing in good faith, do you. Okay, but like where? Like what example is there of this? The memories of those of us who are old enough to remember what we heard, what we were told, and what we saw in movies. There was no other guide or forum, that's the point. I'm not sure how you could look at the red pillers moaning day in and day out about how they can't get a date and claim that it works. I haven't actually seen a lot of redpillers complaini…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:39 PM
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Because they teach men to be manipulative and prey on emotionally insecure or inexperienced women. What exactly do you think misogyny is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:15 PM
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It sounds like they took advice from either their grandmothers or romcoms. That or well-meaning parents, friends, advice columnists, popular media, etc. Nobody claimed women are perfect or ideal. That is one of the biggest strawmen red pill is built upon. The claim was rarely made, but almost always implied in how men were taught to court and attract women. The unspoken assumption was that most women were good, pure and virtuous, and would enjoy the same qualities in a partner. Then what happene…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:12 PM
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Yeah, things like dread game, negging, saying women have the minds of teenagers, etc. It also comes across in how many RPers talk about women, as you can tell they have an axe to grind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 08:07 PM
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I believe if you want love and can’t get it, you probably are doing something wrong. Yes, many women believe that from looking at personal experiences and thinking it's the same for men as it is for them. This is unfortunately not the case. The vast majority of women always have options, and will simply never experience the loneliness of being shunned and rejected as an average, socially awkward guy can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:41 PM
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I think RP suggests self-improvement in any way you can, or find relevant. The getting jacked and rich part sounds more like what you'd find in a pickup artist community.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:31 PM
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Yes and no. Before RP, a lot of advice directed at guys was to just buy flowers, be courteous and gentlemanly etc., which are fine but do not in themselves generate attraction. Then the seduction community with people like Mystery and Neil Strauss came along and started telling guys what works, but they were solely concerned with "pickup game." RP evolved from that, and was the first movement of its type to articulate that women aren't perfect, to stop pedestalizing them and rather understand ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:30 PM
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Personally, I agree with most redpill tenets but reject the arrogant, misogynistic attitude that many RPers have which is why I don't call myself RP. Can't speak for others but that's my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:38 PM
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The absolute butthurt from women and simps in response to that tweet still sends me 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:38 AM
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Does it really work when it's practically obvious what the deal is in those cases?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:35 AM
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Might have a point actually. Once I hit my mid 30s, 20-somethings started looking like kids to me. Not talking about just looks, but personality/behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:10 PM
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I did find single and available women while joining various hobbies/classes but... let's just say there were good reasons most of them were single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:30 AM
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22 + 15 = 37. You honestly think a 37 year old is an "old crusty geezer"? How old are you, just out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:27 AM
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It was a joke, holy shit you guys are autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:46 PM
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Whatever happened to guys getting rejected by a woman and saying "Oh ho ho, I like this one. She's got spirit!" edit: Some of the responses to this obvious lighthearted joke lead me to believe you're either on the spectrum, have no sense of humor, or both. Wonder why you're having trouble with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:32 PM
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He didn't once say anything about being mean to anyone. He said "(When a man) stops being a "nice guy" all of a sudden you get women filled with hate, accusing them of never being nice or a good person at all." No woman would say that to a guy who simply decided not to be a doormat anymore, unless she's got serious issues. Hence the implication that guys who get that response are usually the ones who claim they'll start being assholes and treat women badly. If that's not the case, congrats, igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:44 PM
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I think both can be true. Being creepy is being socially inappropriate in a vaguely threatening manner. At the same time, good-looking men (and women for that matter) get away with more stuff, while ugly or socially inept people with innocent intentions might be unfairly labeled. Sad but understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:35 PM
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I do agree that young men and boys need more positive non-toxic male role models. The problem is that people are addicted to drama and rage, and those guys when they do appear, are ignored or drowned out in favor of the Andrew Tates, Jordan Petersons, Fresh & Fit and their copycats, and their fanbase of angry incels and divorced manosphere dudes who don't really want answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:14 PM
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Sadly this is true, I've seen women online like Courtney Ryan, Sarah Dawn Moore and others who actually try to understand men's problems and help them, only to get dismissal and insults in their comments from dudes who don't want help, they just want to be angry. I.e., Andrew Tate or Fresh & Fit subscribers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:46 AM
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The “bring on dumb hot girls, encourage them to say outrageous things and then make fun of them using rehearsed rebuttals” is a format that seems to be (thankfully) dying. I hope so, those channels are nothing but dumb ragebait for angry incels and 45-year old divorced dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:40 AM
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One possible answer would be to stop paying attention to unhinged feminists online and go out and talk to actual women. This shit happens when you become addicted to ragebait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:12 AM
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That's unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 12:44 PM
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So here's my view on attractiveness. I think there's several layers to it. The first and most universal layer of what makes people attractive is the appearance of youth, health and fitness. I don't think too many can argue with that. The second layer has to do with the person's facial appearance. The third is their apparent level of grooming and self-care. Finally, it's their overall vibe and whether we see them as our type or not. Everyone has a type based on their personal preferences, who the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:15 AM
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Have you fasted before? I tried it a couple of times, felt really weak and wobbly by the evening of the first day. Probably something to do with low blood sugar, I should get it checked out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 10:09 AM
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Who's telling you to shut up? I know many guys who'd love to meet dominant women, yet they're so rare outside the pro BDSM scene (where a good amount only do it for money anyway.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:43 AM
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Women are attracted to strength and social dominance, even if the guy is an asshole, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:24 AM
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My theory is that women need to justify their repulsion to unattractive men by vilifying them, due to a need to always maintain the moral high ground. So they don't dislike a guy just because they he is unattractive but because he is bad and they can somehow sense it. This might explain why I've seen more hate and venom directed online at nerdy socially inept guys, than actual cheaters and abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:21 AM
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It depends. I mean some people are gonna be haters regardless, but there's still a difference between a good guy who's successful and a self-centered asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:37 PM
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That was more understandable. You don't know if that guy had a knife or a gun, and most people aren't about to risk their life for the sake of a stolen wallet or phone. At least they got him on video, hopefully they'll be able to catch him and give him what he deserves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:34 PM
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Yeah, could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:00 PM
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Frasier would constantly lament being single, even though he seemingly dated a new woman every week. Charlie Harper lived the carefree playboy lifestyle, but the implication was that he was a sad individual and secretly lonely. Other shows like Big Bang Theory, which initially portrayed a bunch of undateable nerds, also eventually had all of them get attached. The ones who remained single were always portrayed as unhappy losers, or incorrigible horndog sex pests. That's what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:00 PM
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Does anyone else get the impression that so many TV shows, especially sitcoms, portray being married / coupled as the best situation, while single people are always portrayed as losers who are either bemoaning their loneliness or only pretending to be happy? As someone who's been in both positions and frankly prefer the peace and freedom of living single, it's something I've been noticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:44 PM
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Agreed, I actually knew a girl like this in college, cute face but definitely overweight to obese. She never had a shortage of boyfriends. Dudes would pick her up in their cars, bring her flowers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:46 AM
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You gotta be careful online too, I've heard people got reported to the admins and banned for even mentioning the topic with anything other than fawning praise. Better to not even talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:35 AM
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Ah, never knew that was a genre.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:12 PM
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My theory about Onlyfans and its appeal over "regular" porn is that there can be a specific woman you are attracted to and can develop a pseudo-relationship with her by interacting, buying her content etc. Of course it's all an illusion and those women don't really care about you outside of seeing you as a dollar figure, but it's an illusion many willingly partake in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:01 PM
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Maybe I'm just having a brain fart, but what's PMV?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:57 PM
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There was a poll a while ago that showed the majority of this sub is 17-20 year old virgin males or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:31 AM
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I wonder which is more common, women rejecting someone rudely or men flipping out and getting abusive/violent when rejected. Logic would dictate that most women would be careful and not risk causing the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:21 AM
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I can't speak for others, but personally I don't ever see an AI replacing a woman (or in general a human companion) for me. I would always know it's just a program and doesn't actually have any feelings. Until the day we get self-aware, sentient AI that's not likely to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:04 AM
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How is my point ludicrous? Every woman with a father I know, along with myself, would be berated and shamed if we shacked up with a man who didn’t show capability in providing and protecting Fair enough, but something tells me the same people doing the berating will be inclined to agree that a woman's place is in the kitchen and serving her husband. In other words, the traditional old-fashioned marriage. I mean it's fine if you want that kind of relationship, there is even a tradwife movement cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:13 AM
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FDS is basically a female version of radical Redpillers/MGTOWs though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:07 AM
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Guys who brag about their money then are surprised they attract gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:05 AM
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At this point I'm convinced half of that sub is trolling or clickbait. I mean it's all posts like "My bf came home drunk last night, took a shit on the floor, stuck toothpicks in it and yelled "IT'S A PORCUPINE!" I love him but how can I gently tell him I'm not comfortable with this?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:06 AM
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True, in central/eastern Europe I regularly see couples where the woman is pretty cute and the guy looks like Shrek. He is tall tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:07 AM
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Probably because narcissists can be charming and their self-centeredness comes across as confidence to the inexperienced. They also target women with self-esteem issues. I knew a guy or two like this in college, typical alpha Chads who were abusive, cheated and slept around, and were never without girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:59 AM
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Virgin human vs Chad bear
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:56 AM
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Reminds me of that meme: High School Girls: omg Tyler is so hot Picture of Tyler: literally Sid from Ice Age with a broccoli cut
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:53 AM
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Okay troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:34 AM
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Okay troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 09:31 AM
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John: I did not hit her, that is bullshit, I did not! Oh hi Mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:01 AM
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Nobody's upset or triggered, just discussing facts. Except you, as I get the impression you're just a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:33 AM
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I don't give a shit about The View, but I can still appreciate the double standard. If men had joked about women being useless on national TV, there would've been widespread outrage and cancellations within the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:33 PM
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Those guys are not mainstream though. I don't really care about The View, I think it's dumb, but imagine a TV show where the male hosts joked about women being useless. There would be widespread outrage and they'd be cancelled within a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:30 PM
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Which would involve lots of anal sex, hopefully?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:01 PM
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I once had a dream that I was in a room with Elton John and he was playing Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me on the piano. I woke up, forgot the dream, then a bit later went shopping and the first thing I heard when stepping outside was the same song from a neighbor's window. It was a bit of a "whoa" moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:38 PM
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Did you grow up religious by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:34 PM
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So many of these are staged, I've grown jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:33 PM
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Do apps require you to list your height?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:33 PM
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I've seen women online claim that porn is a dealbreaker for them, that they wouldn't date a guy who watches it. Some take it even further and say they couldn't be with a man who has ever watched porn. Do you think that's a reasonable standard in today's world?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:32 PM
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Not one in particular, just a pattern I keep seeing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:03 PM
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It's unattractive tbh, because in my head 'body hair' is coded as 'male'. Thinking about it, though I'm a straight dude I don't find hairy men aesthetically appealing either. My father liked to walk around the house in his underwear when I was a kid, and he looked like an orangutan. I think I'm still traumatized from that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:04 PM
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I remember reading an article about him that said how every couple of years he makes a movie that's set in like Hawaii, brings his friends, and casts some hot actress as his love interest. Dude's got it figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:57 PM
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Me to myself on Reddit after seeing yet another thoughtful, nuanced post get disimissed and downvoted while the most shallow, pandering, knee-jerk, written by a 15 year old who thinks he's cool and deep, shit gets all the upvotes:
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:46 PM
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Or that some of those people didn't end up settling. I have a coworker who's overweight with 2 kids, and just got a guy to propose to her. I got no problem with that and wish them the best, but can that guy really be counted as a dating success?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:21 PM
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Yet for some reason you strike me as the type who'd go "You go girl, yass queen!" on a post of a woman saying all men are trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:17 PM
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Genius artists can also be antisocial assholes though, and often are. Hence my earlier point that EQ might be more important in a partner. I found this a pretty good read on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:35 PM
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I find it interesting how guys in this thread are so fiercely defending IQ and downplaying other forms of intelligence, I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:54 AM
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It's funny because I've actually seen this situation. She's like "this is the love of my life" and the dude looks like Kevin from The Office. Well, as long as they're happy, none of my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:15 AM
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It's the best predictor for logical-mathematical intelligence, which is great if you want an autistic nerd for a partner. The question was whether it's more important than other types of intelligence like emotional, creative, verbal, interpersonal, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 08:01 AM
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The silliest thing is that they really believe that they were "working 3x harder and are 3x more competent' comparing to men being in the same position. They'd have to, if they had to deal with guys like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:41 AM
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Same here. Being smart is good, being a smartass who likes to correct you or argue about everything, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:41 AM
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Honestly, intelligence doesn't even have to be correlated with academics, which is more about the ability to study, memorize stuff, and do the required work. I've known doctors with Ph.Ds who didn't seem very bright / were boring as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:39 AM
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Not a woman, but I agree with that. Otherwise what are we talking about, how high can she score on an IQ test? Why the hell would I care about that? Give me someone who can hold an interesting conversation, be funny, and have street smarts any day. That's what different types of intelligence means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:36 AM
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If the issue is that MORE people should be asking for consent, it's foolish to complain about women wanting men to ask for consent. I agree, but... no-one did that? Both the OP and the post she linked are talking about the fact that women do not usually ask for consent and aren't expected to in the way that men are, and how it's linked to the assumption that men are always ready and willing to have sex with anyone - which is a harmful stereotype. Nowhere did I see men complaining that they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:05 PM
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The OP's post was literally about women not being expected to care about consent as much as men do. How biased do you have to be to twist that into "Men don't like to ask for consent" instead of "Women should care too"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:24 PM
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This, and also cases like men who are assaulted / victimized being subject to ridicule instead of sympathy. Gravel_Roads' post above being a good example. "I'm a tough manly man who's always in control, anyone who isn't like me is pathetic!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:11 PM
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"I'm a great lover, I bet." - Emo Philips
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:02 PM
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Get a respectable career and work hard to get ahead. Find a nice woman and get married. Have 2 kids, a dog, and a house in the suburbs. Wake up to the alarm and go to work. Take the minivan to drive the kids to soccer practice. Consume currently popular media. Remember your dentist appointment. Pick out towels for the guest bathroom. Go to parties where you sip cocktails with virtual strangers as they talk about their investments and 401(k)'s. You are now, by most measures, a successful adult. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:01 PM
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As a tangent, guys who are single get clowned on too. If you post about being happy single as a guy, you get comments like "lol cope", you get called a neckbeard, and you get people responding with the "I sleep in a big bed with my wife" meme from The Simpsons. It's the nature of the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:15 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6l8MFdTaPE
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:04 AM
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If a guy can't remain friends with someone who rejected him because it hurt his ego, or it's too painful to see her date other guys, etc. then they need to own that and just admit that. I agree. But when guys do that, they are accused that they were never a friend and just wanted to get in her pants. It sometimes feels like guys can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:20 PM
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The bad actors are the guys who initial a friendship with dishonest intentions (basically asking someone out in slow motion) and the girls who can catch on and take advantage of that situation. But that situation hardly counts as the commenter’s premise of “I didn’t feel any attraction but her personality made me fall for her”. Could it be that he believes he should get to know her first? If guys ask women out right away they're accused of being creeps who only want sex and don't care about her …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:17 PM
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Your flair says "Red Pill Man" so why are you talking like a blackpiller?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:04 PM
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It's also easier when you're good looking, born in the right family, etc. Nobody said shit's fair, unfortunately. We just do whatever we can with the hand we're dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:59 PM
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Thought of the day: No matter how hard you try you'll never be able to please everyone, so you might as well be yourself. All the natural Chads and popular guys I've known were unapologetically themselves, had fun, and didn't try to be someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:02 PM
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Yeah, but you'd still have to deal with seeing everyone you know and love grow old & die while you stay the same. Eventually you'd find yourself in a world completely different than what you grew up with. I don't know if everyone could handle that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 12:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brWB8ivjjJA (go to 0:10 to skip the pointless intro)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:18 PM
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More people dress like slobs too, it's annoying. I was watching a documentary about Las Vegas and it was showing these glamorous clubs/casinos full of tourists in ratty jeans, t-shirts or hoodies and old sneakers or sandals. Couldn't help comparing it to those images from the 50s where everyone is dressed nicely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:14 PM
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We're not meant to live with this much calorie-dense food. I once heard a nutritionist say "The human body has multiple systems in place for preventing weight loss; it has none for preventing gaining it." We evolved to hunt and forage, not sit on the couch with a large pizza and 2L Coke.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:12 PM
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The cultural left has never wanted freedom of speech. They want to be the ones who dictate what people are allowed to say and think. Just look at cancel culture and every leftist board/forum being heavily moderated to the point they become echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:05 PM
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I almost watched it with my parents before learning it's got a bunch of explicit sex scenes, apparently? Bullet dodged.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 12:00 PM
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Not to mention that post assumes it's always entirely the man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:57 AM
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All of those are reasonable but some take it too far. I've had a woman completely ignore me when I was just trying to ask for directions, in the middle of the day. I've known other women who refuse to make eye contact or acknowledge anyone who isn't their friend, family member or boyfriend. To many men, this can come across as arrogant and "how dare you speak to me, peasant?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:54 AM
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Half the posts in that sub are made-up ragebait, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:51 AM
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Just recently I was watching a bunch of game streamers on Youtube/Twitch and noticed how many of them stumble and stutter when trying to read text. It seems to be a real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 01:51 AM
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Oh stop it, you silver tongued romancer, you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:57 PM
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If anyone ever asked me what I bring to the table, my answer would be "nothing, please move on sir/madam", like I refuse to even acknowledge that system.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:56 PM
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Because this sub is like 80% young virgin redpill-leaning males. There was a survey not long ago that confirmed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:55 PM
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Many people here, both men and women, seem to treat dating like a business transaction where they try to get the maximum profit for their investment. I don't like it either, but I don't think it represents the real world for what it's worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:09 PM
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I'm trying, but it's hard going to bed early. It's like I don't want the day to be over. :P
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:46 AM
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Anyone ever try to fix their sleep schedule? I don't know why I feel sedated during the day and fully alert at like 2 AM.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:39 AM
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That's pretty common I think, women will rarely be interested in a guy they deem to be beneath them. Unlike men who are mostly interested in looks and personality, women will also look at money and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:36 AM
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And how many would be enough to satisfy you that it does happen? How about every case of an abusive relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:03 PM
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What's really funny is how the bitter dudes get more hate and venom than actual cheaters and abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:46 PM
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I've said this before, but it's possible to rail at the injustice of someone who got rich by lying, stealing and exploiting people while you're slaving away at your honest job, without necessarily wanting to be like them. You sound like one of those billionaire apologists going "shut up, the rich deserve their money! Jeff Bezos just worked a billion times harder than you!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:43 PM
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I do agree with the last part. Sexist douche men have no trouble attracting women if they're good at hiding it and/or their looks, money and status are enough to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:42 PM
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Knew at least 2 guys in college who were typical alpha Chads, who cheated, put themselves first, and were outright abusive to their girlfriends. Guess what, they were never single for long. It's not always the case, but often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:38 PM
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Hell, take it up to 99% if you want, the rules are still gonna apply to Billy Beta and go out the window when tall athletic high-status Chad comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:34 PM
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If you're good looking, there is little you can do wrong. If you're not good looking, there is little you can do right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:33 PM
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He doesn't seem fat though, maybe a lil chubby, could definitely dress better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:13 PM
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I went out with a girl once during college, thought we had a nice time and wanted to see her again. Then I found out she hooked up with some guy at a party the next day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB-Pl9tJjaE
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:11 PM
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Do Americans have a problem with literacy, especially reading fluently? I've been watching a bunch of streamers play games on Youtube/Twitch and it struck me how many of them stumble and stutter when trying to read text, while otherwise talking fast and fluently. I'm not trying to take the piss, I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:07 PM
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Then you start using nasal spray until you get addicted, been there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:22 PM
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TRP advocates for working out and looksmaxxing though, which can definitely make you more attractive. As for boorish, what of it? Many guys who turn to the redpill have the problem of not being confident or assertive enough. Women falling for jerks and assholes over the quiet shy guy is practically a cliche.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:17 PM
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Exactly. It doesn't even have to be a repulsive personality these days, being average / not Chad is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:14 PM
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I can actually resonate with a lot of that. I see stories on TwoX and elsewhere about boyfriends/husbands who don't do anything around the house, who are incapable of even cleaning up after themselves. I've been living alone for a while now and I'm perfectly able to cook, clean, make various home repairs/improvements, handle finances and so on. I think I'd make a decent partner, but I'm enjoying my peace and freedom too much. Like that meme says, "it's a peaceful life."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:07 PM
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They must be taken before the local imam and given a severe beating as a reprimand. Then they shall be held there until their fathers or brothers come to claim them, as they have brought shame to their families. - the world those redpill guys literally want
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:15 AM
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Because they're a bunch of Andrew Tate dickriders who thought the Handmaid's Tale was an instruction manual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:12 AM
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This is the same energy as the people who claim they know a guy who's short, bald and chubby yet slays it with the ladies because of his personality. I.e., to be taken with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:38 AM
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What I take issue with is that when a guy develops feelings and is rejected, he is almost always assumed to be a creep who faked the friendship in the hopes of getting sex. People don't even care about the circumstances, they just jump to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:55 PM
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I mean the video is obviously staged to make a point, but what most people are saying is that there's a kneejerk reaction to label him creepy because he's fat and not very attractive. If he were a handsome, smooth guy it'd be like "aww, he wants to ask her out but he's shy, so cute!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:56 AM
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why does every man here insist that this is the case when it's simply not true, and women continually say this. Because we've learned to look at what women do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:54 AM
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This. I've had women I didn't find attractive act interested in the past, I tried to let them down gently and felt bad for them. I never felt angry or insulted that they approached me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:52 AM
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I’m genuinely confused like what do you guys expect that every single woman who you’re friends with is going to want you? Nobody said that. They were saying it's unfair that you are automatically labeled a "fake friend who only wanted sex" if you develop feelings for someone after befriending them, not to mention the advice about "getting to know women first and treating them like people." Are you actually having trouble understanding this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:49 AM
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My point exactly, you call him pathetic because of how he looks. If he was a hot actor, it'd be cute and romantic. I can't believe people are refusing to see or admit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:32 AM
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I have no idea who you're talking to, because that long rant has little to do with what I posted and mostly seems to be directed at someone living in your head. Hope you get some help & get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 09:30 AM
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So what would be the correct way for a guy to escalate without being creepy and making you uncomfortable? I'm really interested in an answer aside from "he should be attractive" because we already know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:15 AM
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Because they need to feel morally superior
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:06 PM
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staring creepily If he looked like Chris Hemsworth, he'd be considered cute and romantic. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:06 PM
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Just checked out the link, you didn't try to help, you just offered a bunch of dumb generalities and non sequiturs. In the end it's about whether the guy is hot or not, end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:05 PM
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Exactly, it's not about the situation itself so much as the guy being unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:03 PM
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If you want to date a woman act like a suitor and not like a friend . What does that even mean? Write poems to woo her? Ask her father for permission to court her? Challenge other suitors to a duel?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:02 PM
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Exactly. People reacting to this are such blind idiot bandwagon-jumping sheep who literally can't see it would be a cute romance story if the guy was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:01 PM
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dude’s acting like a creep the whole time Or is it just because he's unattractive? If the guy is hot, women love it when he's assertive and "knows what he wants".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:58 PM
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And yet multiple women have said that they were good friends with their SO before they started dating, or that their husband/bf is their "best friend". Huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:56 PM
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If the guy was hot, you'd welcome him making a move. That's all there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:55 PM
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If she finds him attractive, it's a cute story of how they met. If she doesn't, he's a creep trying to hit on her. The only moral I could see of that video is "Know your place if you're ugly!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:52 PM
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Because there is a difference between “hey we been friends for a while and now our feelings have grown” vs “I’m only becoming friends with her to tricking her into eventually fucking me” But my point is that regardless of which is true, people will always treat it like the second case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:35 PM
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Guy meets a girl who he thinks is cool, and they have fun hanging out together as friends. He eventually develops feelings for her, but if he lets her know now, according to the internet he's a creep who only pretended to be her friend in order to get into her pants! How should he have proceeded?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:30 AM
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Then why is it that whenever this is mentioned around here, the response is "eww, so you only wanted to be her friend in order to get into her pants? What a creep!" Or are the guy's intentions retroactively determined to be good or sleazy depending on whether it works out or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:21 AM
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City girls just seem to find out early How to open doors with just a smile A rich old man, and she won't have to worry She'll dress up all in lace go in style Late at night a big old house gets lonely I guess every form of refuge has its price And it breaks her heart to think her love is only Given to a man with hands as cold as ice So she tells him she must go out for the evening To comfort an old friend who's feelin' down But he knows where she's goin' as she's leavin' She is headed for the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:48 AM
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Woman: "Why don't men approach anymore?" Average guy: "Hi, how's it going?" Woman: "Eww, not you"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:04 AM
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Also hot guys get away with a lot more things that would get an unattractive guy labeled a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:50 AM
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The assholes who are successful with women generally have a combination of looks, status and game that makes women overlook their assholishness or chalk it up to confidence. The second factor would be that women who are attracted to assholes are usually young and immature, have issues, or are assholes themselves. Just my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:48 AM
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Exactly. You can be a little jealous, or at least rail at the injustice, of some guy who got rich by lying and scamming people while you're slaving away at your job, without really wanting to be like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:58 PM
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Yeah, those ancient and medieval folks were onto something with the robes and tunics.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:04 PM
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I agree actually, the whole "stepmom/sis/dad" whatever crap is annoying and seems to be a big niche in porn. Makes you wonder. Same for women calling their partner "daddy", I just find it cringy and offputting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:57 PM
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Anatomically speaking, men are more suited for skirts and women for pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:55 PM
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Trans men seem to be able to find partners alright, so I would say those guys have a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:54 AM
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By that same logic you could argue that equality among men can't exist either, because i.e., the ones with guns and/or military training could decide to seize power tomorrow and take away everyone else's rights. Hell, it's happened in many places throughout history. I guess we just have to trust that people overall are basically decent and sane, and realize that giving people rights and letting them contribute to society is better than going psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:30 AM
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Sometimes the only difference between the stereotypical "nice guys" and the Chads is that the latter got what they wanted by virtue of being more endowed in the looks and status department. Yet they are seen as somehow better and more meritorious just because they managed to hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:28 PM
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Did you get lost on the way to 4chan?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:30 AM
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"Just be yourself", "just take a shower", "learn to treat women like people" etc. Most guys who are unsuccessful already do that. The problem is usually that they're boring awkward nerds. But nobody says that so as to not seem shallow or hurt their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:23 AM
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Of course married men reported being happy, their wives would've killed them otherwise :P
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 05:00 PM
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r/deadbedrooms would like a word
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:15 PM
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I know plenty of people whose children are estranged, or moved to another city/country and only visiting a couple of times a year. Having children is no guarantee of anything, and thinking they are your retirement plan is a pretty selfish and crappy reason to have kids in the first place. You answered a 5 month old post to sound like a dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:04 PM
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I tend to believe this. Maybe it's true for certain women, but not the norm. Real life isn't Sex And The City.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:53 AM
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Not anymore. Women are just there to have fun with their friends, not to be approached and hit on by creeps, didn't you get the memo?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:10 PM
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But you haven't been told your whole life "if you're just nice women will always want to date you." That's not a thing that people say, that's a red pill lie used to make it seem like society (blue pillers in particular) have been purposely misleading men. I don't know where you grew up, but it was certainly true for me and my friends, way before hearing about any pills. From well-meaning mothers to friends and peers to media, guys are told to be nice, be sensitive and act like gentlemen because…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:37 PM
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It doesn't matter how guys say it, anything short of cheerful acceptance gets them labeled the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:31 PM
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Guys aren't weak and inffective, they'd just rather not get involved in protecting a woman anymore because they risk being accused of harassment and blasted on social media as creeps. Women these days are strong boss bitches who don't need no man to take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:09 PM
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So that's why Hitler couldn't find him...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:51 PM
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The narrative that women don't like certain men because they're such horrible people with bad personalities is such weapons grade bullshitonium. It no doubt contributes to the frustration of nice guys. Guys are told that if they're good people and treat women and people in general nice, then women will like them. But then they get rejected for being "too nice" while females flock to horrible asshole bully males. And it's not just that. If the nice guy dares to complain or show any frustration wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:49 PM
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I was thinking something similar a few days ago. If the good guys are hammered over the head with the fact that men are creepy and threatening and should leave women alone, guess what - they'll take it to heart and leave women alone. The only ones still approaching will be the actual creeps and fuckbois. Cue the surprised Pikachu face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:43 PM
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Too bad the author was mobbed and smeared by feminists hoping to cancel him, hope he's doing alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:49 AM
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Exactly. I never understood this "If you stop being nice to people who spit in your face, it means you were never nice at all and you were just a manipulator who was expecting human decency back!" BS line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:47 AM
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Let's say you are actually a nice person, and you hope that girl you have a crush on will like you for who you are because that's what you've been told all your life - be nice, be a gentleman, listen to women, etc. Then you realize they merely ignore or use you while chasing after bad boys. If you verbalize any of this, you are told you're a manipulative "nice guy" who just wants sex and isn't nice at all. You seriously don't see a problem with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:43 AM
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Fair enough, but you should probably still make sure she's into it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:55 PM
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True, more women initiate divorce. But in this case particularly, I remember seeing stories from women who earned more, who claimed their husbands got jealous and resentful and increasingly insufferable until they were forced to end the relationship. Either that or they were lazy, passive and did nothing around the house while the woman worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:09 PM
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I think it depends what kind of porn they watch. If they're only into "hardcore" stuff that generally shows women being used roughly and degraded, it might affect their overall perception of women and sex. I've seen women complain that their partners want to slap or choke them, for example, without even asking first because they assumed all women enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:56 PM
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Unless I missed something that study only shows that there's higher risk of separation, not that the women are unhappy or that they are initiating it. Many men feel insecure if they earn less than their partner too, and that can turn into hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:17 PM
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To be fair, many of those movies are really about the guy's journey to better himself / discover his inner strength, while treating the woman as a prize to be won by him at the end. They're not very realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:13 PM
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Exactly. It's a bit like a guy saying "I used to take my past girlfriends on lavish dates at expensive restaurants, but now I've matured and learned to manage my money better so we won't be doing that anymore."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:58 AM
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I think women see the men they are attracted to, and the ones they are repulsed by. The rest barely register on their radar at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:12 PM
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Historically, the asshole sociopath will have more success in attracting a partner as well as life in general. It's about strength vs weakness. I initially didn't want to respond here as it was labeled QFW, but then I realized that's what the nice guy doormat would do :P
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:51 AM
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If we're talking dating apps, I also noticed a lot of men don't put effort into their appearance (grooming and clothes) and don't know how to take a good picture or don't care. These things can make a big difference. Just look at those paparazzi pictures of celebrities caught without makeup doing their shopping etc., versus how they normally look in the media to get an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:40 AM
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Every 6 months? Wow, check out Mr. Prince Charming over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:38 AM
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Exactly. And I would say it's not limited to dating either. I've seen pushy assholes get away with a lot of things in life because they've got the right amount of looks/charm/status, or because people are just afraid to stand up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:35 AM
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Just my 2c, but a masculine father figure is not always the answer. I grew up with an arrogant, controlling, bullying father who treated his family like servants or underlings. He might be considered "alpha" but it made me hate that type of person and never want to be one. What boys need is good, balanced male role models and it's not always easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:06 AM
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I'm a guy, but tbh if I were a woman I'd rather be single than with some dude who judges and doesn't appreciate me. It's common sense. Not that I think those girls will have any trouble finding someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:41 AM
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That is not what was described. What was described was a one sided thing where the man treats the woman fine, but does not really love her or really feel deeply for her in any count. And he does this because he cannot get anyone else and doesn't wish to be alone. That's not love, that's being a gigantic gaping asshole. Yeah, it feels weird because traditionally women are more known to do this (the whole settling for beta bucks thing.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:44 PM
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Are pure love or dead bedrooms the only possibilities? I swear you people always think in extremes and absolutes. Not to mention that love (really infatuation) can fade over time anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:22 AM
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Dude lowkey making a lot of sense tho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:58 AM
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This sounds like a very naive take imo. Do you really think all couples in the world got together because of pure love? I mean marriage has been more about economic factors and alliances for most of history. But even if love is the ideal, what about two people realizing they'll never get together with the person of their dreams and realizing they like each other enough to try and build a relationship? I think that's what happens in most cases of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:55 AM
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Yeah, I gotta agree with this. Watched a couple of those "alpha male" podcasts where some dude is like "A high value man isn't gonna want you if you do this or that, have a high bodycount, did Onlyfans, blah blah" and I'm always thinking "dude, what makes you think SHE would want YOU in the first place?" Just live how you want and find someone compatible with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:42 AM
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Sounds like that dude couldn't handle any responsibility at all, no wonder he didn't want to be a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 08:37 AM
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I mean most women I know don’t find significantly older men attractive? Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:44 PM
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One thing I don't get is all those videos where some asshole goose is chasing somebody and that person is running away terrified. It's funny and all, but seriously, why be such a coward? It's a freaking goose, grab it by the neck and yeet it away already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:42 PM
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Am I the only one getting so tired of these threads where OP is really just trying to prove in a roundabout way that older men are unattractive? It's all down to individual cases, just let people date whoever they want already.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:30 PM
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Man: "I don't know what to do anymore. Why do women say they just want a good guy when most of them will date good-looking cocky douchebags?" Women: "UGH, nobody OWES you sex, you creepy misogynist! If women avoid you it's for a good reason!" That is the extent of women's 'empathy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:13 PM
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Yet another cowardly "wahmin bad" "discussion" post 🙄 Way to prove OP right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:22 AM
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Agreed, I gotta say this is one of the more nasty and self-centered takes I've seen on here, and that's saying a lot for PPD. Imagine being a business owner seeing a man's who's desperate for a job and going "ugh, that guy will work for anyone, why should I hire him? He won't even appreciate this company's true value." I wish more men would wake up and realize women have zero empathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:22 AM
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On the other hand, married people can go through the pain of losing a spouse or watching them battle a long sickness, possibly having to be their caregiver as well. This situation doesn't exist with single people, so pros and cons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:29 PM
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I bet OP sniffs his own farts and savors them like a fine wine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:40 AM
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nah I'm good
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:44 PM
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Fair enough. But who decides what "winning" is anyway? Maybe it's just being at peace with the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:26 PM
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Yeah, despite its flowery language the whole post could be summed up as "redpill is bad and dumb, mkay?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:14 PM
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As opposed to what, be outside without any real-life affection or intimacy? Men have already been told they're toxic and useless repeatedly, and for some of them romance will never happen because they lost the genetic lottery. They might at least find whatever enjoyment they can in life, or should that be forbidden to them as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:11 PM
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Yep, sounds pretty good for men, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:09 PM
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Yep, and knowing as a man that you will never cause those feelings in a woman is reason enough to check out and just live life on your own terms, trying to find enjoyment where you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:03 PM
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I've heard similar stories about singles events where the women ignored 90% of the guys there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:40 PM
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My goal is to work as much as I have to in order to support myself and have a modestly comfortable life. I'm not about to give my soul to some corporation which sees me as a disposable tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:50 PM
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I think 40K doesn't really appeal to women because it's a very macho, basically "no girls allowed" type of fantasy. It would be like guys being into some cute romance dating sim or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:36 PM
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Men already acknowledge it, hence pickup artistry and the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:33 PM
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For most people it's zero or one really, unless you're a Chad spinning plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:31 PM
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On Youtube, you can check out Sarah Dawn Moore, Courtney Ryan or Marni the Wing Girl. Ignore the incels and edgebros in their comments, as they actually give pretty good level-headed advice on how to date. Stay away from macho manosphere crap if you actually hope to attract a woman someday. Otherwise, try looking at the women you know whom you'd consider high quality according to whatever standards you have. If they have boyfriends or husbands, what are they like? How do they look, dress, behave…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:01 PM
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Yes, I was hiding in the bushes observing feminists and their bfs with binoculars. I also had a little notepad to take notes on and a hat with leaves glued onto it for camouflage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:52 PM
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Man, I should've gone to more parties with stoner hippie chicks. I could've told them all about how, like, the vibrations of the universe are in tune with our chakras and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:18 AM
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It's also been observed irl that many feminists don't even like liberal feminist men that much and are more attracted to strong macho types.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:48 AM
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I'm no longer interested in continuing this thing where you twist my words and only read what you want to see. Find someone else to play semantics with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:28 AM
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I do think it's funny that people who follow Tate are often vocal about wanting a traditional unspoiled wife, forgetting he and his associates made their fortune off (alleged) pimping and trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:15 PM
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Sure, let me get right on that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:10 PM
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Are you sure about that? Because I'm pretty certain it is contributing to discrimination and alienation of immigrant populations, especially second-generation who don't have their parents' optimism and whose families failed to acclimatize. But this isn't about immigrants, despite your attempt at derailing. It was just one possible comparison. It's not strictly about incels either, or people concerned about "the state of their dicks", because I guess wanting companionship and romance isn't a thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:04 PM
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It's not really loaded at all. You can see it every day on this sub, dudes will say, "I'm not entitled to sex" and then proceed to list all the reasons they should get sex. Saying they need sex (which I don't agree with) is not the same as being entitled. Being entitled means women should feel obligated to have sex with them, and only a handful of extremists are taking that view. These men are asking women for help? Should that make a difference? No, that's more motte-and-bailey bullshit. Bitchi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:00 PM
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get the sex they think they are entitled to More loaded language. If you ask someone on the street for directions and they rudely brush you off, does thinking they were rude mean you felt entitled to their help? rightly called out for their misogyny Where "misogyny" equals "showing any hint of a complaint or negative emotion regarding this situation." Basically the only allowed responses are to cheerfully accept rejection or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:28 PM
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It's enough to wonder out loud why jerks get girls while nice guys don't in order to be called a creepy misogynist incel online these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:20 PM
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Yes, that's just the kind of strawman that got the author of the article bullied and cancelled by feminists and their white knight lackeys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:18 PM
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The “victims” you’re caping for seek out and read rants from girly bloggers that—unless they’re misogynistic rapists—don’t even apply to them anyway and claim it’s the cause of their emotional downfall toward “radicalization.” These are not the same. In fact, that is the running gag of your wall of self-pitying text: over dramatic umbrage at meaningless anonymous hot takes that they shouldn’t even be offended by unless it applies to them. “Hit Dogs Holler: The Blog Post.” "When I say I hate immi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:14 PM
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Even funnier because alpha Chads also have a "me me me" attitude but in their case it's somehow a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:06 PM
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The funny thing with people trapped in poverty is they never take responsibility for themselves. Why can't they just quit complaining and make more money? Sell some stock, buy fewer lattes, and get a job at their dad's company. Worked for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:04 PM
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I agree, being dirty/messy is a problem. I read this as more about being reasonably clean vs living with someone who has unreasonably high expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:59 PM
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This is the answer, for some reason everyone else in this thread is just assuming it's men making an excuse to live like absolute pigs. I know some men who are dirty/messy, I also know women who are obsessed with cleaning to OCD levels. It's all about balance and what you can both live with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:29 PM
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Fine by me, why would I want to share my life and home with an OCD clean freak who never thinks I did a good enough job and flips out over a speck of dust? It would be a miserable experience. See, others can use hyperbole too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:24 PM
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