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A person: Like chattel slavery for example when black people were owned (literally) by white people? That was better better for race relations or for white people to get labour?? You, an intellectual: More rights, more responsibilities too. Something people tend to forget.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 02:52 AM
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I’m not the person you asked, and I really don’t care that much if X unethical behavior is technically sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 07:45 PM
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Why is a manipulative sales tactis evidence that manipulation is good? The sleazy car salesman trope isn’t usually viewed as the hero?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/18 07:27 PM
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This is old, but the position on the left tends to be, “these preferences exist, but are much more socially determined than RP cares to admit.” Even if trends are cross cultural, it doesn’t make them biological essential truths. There are reasons monarchies come to exist in many early societies that in a sense stem from biology and such, but that doesn’t mean democracy is a denial of biology. The difference between my positive view of democracy and people’s positive view of monarchy in some past…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 09:00 PM
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Is less than 30 percent “just short of half”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 02:16 AM
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Being cynical doesn’t make you smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 11:52 AM
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I’d rather they weren’t on the razor’s edge, than try to use that to force them into unoptimal living situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 11:58 PM
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Sorry spending time with someone is such a burden for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 08:02 PM
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Is it paying if I do it because I like it? We’re not all emptioally stunted. I do “emotional labour” for my close male friends too, and yet they don’t think I’m trying to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 07:59 PM
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I meant relationship partner, not sexual partner. Is it a contradiction for a stud to have only casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 07:56 PM
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Well I don’t buy her meals/drinks/entertainment so… And any “emotional labour” I do for her is returned, probably with interest. I have been in a relationship based on me dping emotional labour, but having the self respect to end that is not synonymous with RP misogyny and masturbation over Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 07:50 PM
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I should’ve known enjoying being with a person I like was all a ruse. This is one of the many examples of RP being pathetic manchildren.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 07:44 PM
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I’m all for going to marraige therapy and figuring shit out. But that takes time and money that low-income families don’t have anyway. Edit: and saying, “let’s make sure children get enough food and education” isn’t a nefarious plot to undermine judeo-christian values, it’s helping children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:15 PM
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Lol, I meant in a relationship, not a sexual partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:10 PM
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Exactly. It’s not need based so it has nothing to do with single mothers, aside from them also being human. I can’t answer for other people, but I’d say we should have socially supported daycare so both parents can work, which, is still incentivised over being a single working parent in this scenario. Also it’s better for shitty marriages to end than for children to grow up under a shitty marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:07 PM
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Idk I’m not RP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:59 PM
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Wow guess I’m a skinny socially anxious alpha since I’ve never paid for sex in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:37 PM
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That’s ridiculous. Universal income isn’t just for children, it’s universal. It just means everyone deserves a minimum quality of life. It’ll still be best for the parents and children to have two incomes on top of UBI. Even free-market hero Milton Friedman supported a negative income tax, which has similar effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:33 PM
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It’s probably more that nobodys trying to bang the crazy cat lady, they’re trying to bang the crazy hot girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:46 PM
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I’m asking questions out if interest. I’m not trying to pull a “gotcha,” I don’t care who you are, and I don’t have any alts. Edit: If you don’t want to reply, then… don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:40 PM
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So what if he was Chad Thundercock in college but never had a partner. Also a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:29 PM
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The hesitation to date male virgins in this thread seems to be about not wanting to teach him how to sex, but also about not wanting to deal with the insecurities. Since I’m a dirty social constructivist, I have to suggest that if we didn’t have such a stigma against men being virgins, they’d be less insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:28 PM
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What if he was Steve Carrell from the 40-year old virgin but then he got redpilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:23 PM
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Having sex once would push him over the “virgin” line and into the “relatively inexperienced” zone. The same person could be either of those things with just a tiny change in luck. How much experience is enough to not assume the worst?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:21 PM
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This at the expense of reaponsible people - who may find defending themselves against crazed gunmen an impossible goal to achieve due to the onerous burden of supporting the protection of the rest of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:11 PM
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Thanks for putting words in my mouth, but no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:08 PM
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Could you show me the green party proposal that describes everything you’ve said? I’ve found nothing on single mothers in their 2016 platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:07 PM
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Why didn’t you stay home?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:02 AM
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Who’s responsibility is it to make sure I don’t shoot people in the streets? Me. Yet when I shoot people the state will step in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:08 AM
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What’s more important, not helping the undeserving, or helping children?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 02:43 AM
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What you described, not enjoying anything in life (except orgasms), is called depression. Slightly better orgasms, and even loving relationships, are not a cure for depression. Edit: If you want nonstop orgasmic pleasure, I’ve heard heroin is better than sex. But personally, I’d advise against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 12:34 AM
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I don’t know, see a therapist for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 07:06 PM
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If those thigs have done nothing for you then you have problems bigger than getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:11 PM
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I have social anxiety and understand the fear of approaching people, either romantic interests or potential friends. But if I was being approached on the streets by 40 year olds who could physically hurt me, my day to day anxiety would probably be a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 03:09 PM
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I don’t know a single person who’s social issues stem from being too concerned with ensuring they’re not raping someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:00 AM
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People have been calling feminism anti-man since forever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 07:13 PM
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Wow. Thinking about the consequences of your actions. How far we’ve fallen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 06:02 PM
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You mean like that old academic woman who’s getting completely shot on by everyone but her powerful peers?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 01:00 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 11:34 AM
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what if I wanted to hurt her cervix? What if she wants to bite your dick off?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 08:06 PM
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Wow, thanks Foucault
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 03:50 PM
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feminization of… politics When Hillary bombs Yemen, femininely
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 03:25 AM
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About 1 in 500 people actually pay the estate tax. What public good does that accomplish? Since some of those taxes go towards social programs, it increases social mobility (which is the best measure of equality of opportunity across class imo), which is very low in the US atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 02:52 PM
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Also feminism has always had heavy backlash. The suffragettes would laugh at univeral positive bias in favour of women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 01:46 PM
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we’re heading towards a society that boosts female privelege… Except, not really? men who are not immediately attractive to women should never talk to them Wow, I guess every feminist I’ve ever known or read has been unicorn, because I’ve ont ever heard this from incels. do as women say and not as they want What does this even mean? I’ve never seen this dynamic in my life. Egalitarian relationships are more common than ever. The material conditions of women generally track with their attractiven…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 01:39 PM
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My first point was that it’s patently absurd to brlieve that “it [women] tend to try to discard majority of men into lower class citizen who are just meant to be lonely slaves,” given that women rarely owned slaves, and men who owned women slaves often used them as sex slaves. I was reaponding to your point, so I did not feel the need to describe in detail the entirety of the slave trade in all human history. The material conditions of women generally track with their spouse. Working class women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 12:49 PM
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I didn’t say otherwise. I think class is pretty important if you’ve seen my username. But I said a true thing and then you said “nuh-uh.” The vast majority of slave owners have been men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 12:28 PM
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IMO perks for married couples should be abolished, and whatever inheritence taxes exist should exist no matter who the recipient is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 12:20 PM
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Here you go, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 12:18 PM
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Men literally held women as sex slaves for much of civilation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 12:14 PM
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If you’re religious, spiritual fufillment. If you’re secular (at least in US) less taxes. Other than that marraige has always been a shitty deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 11:57 AM
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If there’s kids, you have a glorified shared parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 11:48 AM
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education intimidates immature men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 09:20 PM
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K. I thank you for the downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 08:51 PM
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Good news, [men who aren’t self-conscious about their intellectual dick size] have nothing to worry about. FTFY Also the two studies from the wiki page on the subject mention significant variance in the top 1% or 2%. This is significant on a large scale, but it doesn’t mean if you’re a kinda smart guy just assume you’re smarter than women you talk to. Especially in the workplace where you’re interacting with those of a similar skillset to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 08:06 PM
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>I didn’t claim to be smart >reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 02:33 PM
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There’s women smarter than most men, and there’s women less smart than most men. I don’t see what this has to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 02:32 PM
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If you’re yelling at someone in a restaraunt, you’re inviting strangers into your life. And if you are in public with a group, and you say something, you should expect anyone and everyone to jump in. Have private conversations in private. Obviously I’m not advocating for this guy to LITERALLY jump up on the table, kick the meanie man in the teeth, and carry his wife away to safety. I’m also not saying he should try to therapize the couple. Telling someone to stop shouting in public isn’t insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 01:53 PM
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ITT: low self-esteem men who’s feelings get hurt when a woman is smarter than him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 01:48 PM
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Isn’t RP, especially MRP, literally complete outsiders trying to tell you what to do in your relationship? It’s impersonal, but people still tell their stories and get advice. I’d rather get advice from a friend than anyone on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 01:43 PM
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At the very least, OPs friend was embarrasing him in public, and thus it’s OPs business. At most OP cares aboht his friend and wants him to have a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:49 PM
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Well I only have the info from OP to go off of here. I can’t answer for whoever holds a different opinion than me, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:48 PM
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To put it in Kantian terms, it’s immoral to treat a rational being as merely a means to an end. In a healthy relationship this isn’t happening. Feminists probably don’t believe that me fantasizing about going on a rad (mutually enjoyable) hike with my friends is objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:45 PM
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Why would a sane person start a fight with their spouse while in public with a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:40 PM
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my friend started shouting at his wife, telling her not to talk over him Any arrangements of genders or relationships make the person yelling in public the bad one here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:39 PM
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My cheecks flush… with rage, as I picture CHAD’s golden, engorged, uncircimcised cock. Spraying, like machine gun fire, his superior, big chinned ejaculate wherever he pleases. If only I had a taste of his immortal life-force, I too could transcend, and fufill my essential, unchageable purpose, that my goddess Evo Lution has handed down to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 12:11 PM
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By itself it doesn’t condemn TRP (I’m not trying to poison the well) but it’s just a fact that white supremacists try to recruit from all over the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 05:46 PM
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I’ve never had a transcendent experience when drinking a cup of coffee, but I haven’t forsaked coffee. And to complete the metaphor, if I had to choose a specific coffee to drink forever I think I’d live. An imperfect but fufilling relationship is much better than a cup of coffee.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 03:28 PM
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Self-improvement existed before TRP and occasionally without sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 03:26 PM
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Poe’s Law
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 03:21 PM
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In your case, it sounds like you married someone you like who’s in your economic and social class, which is pretty unremarkeable, and doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with your parents, except for the obvious factor of raising you as UMC parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 03:07 PM
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If convincing someone to leave an abusive relationship was easy, they would hardly exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 03:03 PM
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Hormones and sex are pretty interrelated, I don’t see how it’s not obvious that one effects the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 06:20 PM
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you are effectively useless in all areas of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 05:27 PM
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you are effectively useless Bearing your child is useless?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 05:16 PM
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I have nothing ethically against hedonists, but it seems like a pretty hollow life to me. I’d rather have the friends I do, be able to read the books and watch the movies I want to, and do whatever (not sexual) physical activity I enjoy than have an orgasm button.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 09:58 PM
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I mean I guess, but there are things I’d like to do with my time that don’t involve my penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 06:33 PM
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So if she doesn’t come is that 1 for you and 0 for her or 1/2 for both?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 04:37 PM
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Just because you hide it doesn’t make it less stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 04:22 PM
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she’s an entitled princess. you’re horrible and only good for fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 04:16 PM
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40 times a month???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 04:10 PM
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there is nothing more mood killing than showing emotional vulnerability Quick, someone tell my girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 11:26 AM
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Psh, they’re just coping cause they’re not Chad enough to buy tickets to the Johnstownville Sharks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 12:58 AM
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But evolutionary relics do exist in our psychology I, and the critics I referenced, didn’t deny that. It’s a strawman. In one of the links it mentions a critic saying “I am unabashedly enthusiastic about efforts to apply evolutionary theory to human psychology.” This is different than proper noun Evolutionary Psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 12:51 AM
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Evopsych isn’t just the statement that there are evolution has implications in psychology. Here are some criticisms of evopsych. My main takeaways are that it ignores alternative explanations, tells just-so stories without adequate proof/evidence, and relies on theories of mind that aren’t conclusively true. I think RP has nothing to do with science.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 09:15 PM
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So you’d rather me clone you and harvest your clone’s sperm for sperm banks, than to just like, adopt or something. I know I’m being ridiculous, but all gloryfying of genetics or blood and soil or whatever is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/18 08:14 PM
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Thank.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 05:47 PM
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Wat
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 05:47 PM
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they were rejected by everyone In their minds, but yeah the rest is pretty true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 04:15 PM
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Just because everything they say is logically inconsistent doesn’t mean they don’t say it. They even have a special word for how disgusting they find normal labias to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 04:12 PM
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You realize I’m using soyboy and cuck ironically right? People who use those as insults are 1)stupid 2)immature
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 03:24 PM
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If you look at incels, they constantly claim they’d take anything with twoXchromosomes, but also constantly shit on women’s looks and talk about how they’d only date skinny subservient virgins or whatever, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 03:01 PM
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I just don’t think the cultural meme of begetting an heir is worth much. Past some “hey, neat-o, we have similar eyes,” and some hormonal stuff, I think a bond between a parent and child should be disconnected from DNA. Any father who learned his children weren’t genetically his, and felt like the 18+ year relationship between him and his children were wasted is kind of a shitty person imo. To not even let your genetic legacy survive. (which is a definition and the purpose of life) This is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 02:55 PM
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“The message is bad” “Ad hominem” “”Reading comprehension””
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:44 PM
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Oof, I’ve been outed as a megachad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:43 PM
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Evolutionary psychology isn’t basic arithmetic, it’s highly criticized by people within the scientific community. It just tells a nice story that’s easy for anyone to understand, so people eat it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:43 PM
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“You made us be sexist by not fucking us”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:36 PM
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/r/badphilosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:18 PM
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I’d definitely criticize the content of evolutionary psychology
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:16 PM
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compares anything besides strict biological determism with creationists compares feminism to nazism sniff he really was the mostest rationalistist atheist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:13 PM
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And you’d be enslaved or killed while your wife was taken into the local warlord’s harem. The past was shit for women, but it was shit for 99.99% of men too. Plus, most people are cool with gays now, so maybe you’d get your chance to be powerless to an alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 01:06 PM
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Women aren’t the only people who cheat. Men cheat more than women. There’s just not the threat of not having your DNA reproduced. Which, frankly, is a stupid thing to be obssessed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 12:57 PM
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Yeah when you stop you children from having a relationship the safe way (especially when you throw a temper tantrum and break their stuff), they tend to do it the stupid way. It’s like abstinence only sexed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 08:20 PM
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Well she had some shitty relationships. One guy was literally using her to “climb the social ladder” in high school. Guys who told her pretty horrible things about her body. One of them turned her onto Milo Yianoppolus so dispite being in STEM she was somewhat of a biological essentialist in the worse sense. Idk if they directly referred her to it but she read a lot of stuff on the RP subreddit. When we first started hanging out and having sex she proposed an open relationship. I’m pretty sure s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 06:24 AM
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My girlfriend was “redpilled” before I met her, and the amount of mental colonization that goes on is horrifying. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. effeminate schreech can’t we all just get alooong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 11:00 PM
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Unironic “fellz vs reelz” is a bad mem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 10:47 PM
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EdG
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 08:27 PM
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Ariel even has an orbiter in her friend Flounder. friend Also, part of the point of the movie was that it was stupid for Ariel to try to change who she was, because the Prince actually liked her and treated her like a human being, he wasn’t just trying to bone. And the father was a shitty patriarchical biological essentialist until he realized, hey maybe just let people live, jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 08:26 PM
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is given a soul
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 08:22 PM
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You could say an upper middle class US citizen voted for higher taxes because their biology was warning them about not appeasing the majority of the lower class. It’d be fucking stupid, but you could say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:29 PM
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You could say an upper middle class US citizen voted for higher taxes because their biology was warning them about not appeasing the majority of the lower class. It’d be fucking stupid, but you could say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:26 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:11 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:06 PM
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It largely has changed. The pill and legal abortion makes sex immensely safer than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 06:07 PM
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They didn’t really have the idea of “homosexual” back then. If you’re an adult male you need a wife to produce offspring, but then you go fuck your boy lover. There’s a scene in Plato’s dialougue where a bunch of men are so attracted to a young boy that they fight to give him a seat and one guy falls off. And then his robe moves just the right way and Socrates almost loses his mind. The influence of pederasty on Greek culture of these periods was so pervasive that it has been called "the princip…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 06:00 PM
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Beauty is largely a female trait Tell that to the Ancient Greeks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 05:26 PM
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people find female bodies more sexually attractive Tell that to the Ancient Greeks
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 05:23 PM
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They weren’t just trained to be “””alphas”””. They were trained to live communally, and ignore hunger and fear (which is as biological as you can get) for the sake of something other than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 05:22 PM
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When 7/11 has “free slushie day” do you feel the need to explain to the store clerk “muh free lunch” fallacy? Probably not, because we all know what “free” means in this context. It’s not a particularly clever point, but it’s brought up all the time for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 05:14 PM
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We can go down that rabbithole and start letting orphans roam the streets again, but even if I’m being selfish, it’s better for me to not do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:53 PM
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Everyone can set their own boundaries obviously, and long as thy’re honest and communicate. But anyone who wants to cheat, can find a way. I just think clubs are a stupid place to draw the line. My girlfriend gets hit on at work and at the soup place. I don’t have such a low view of her self-control that I think loud music is the thing that’ll make her immediately lose her pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:51 PM
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Because the child didn’t choose anything. Wether he wanted the kid or not, the man now has a kid, and should desire the best for the kid, even if he doesn’t care enough to personally help. Because it’s the right thing to do. “Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed” and all that. Because everyone in society benefits from everyone else being able to flourish to a level that allows them to contribute to society. Public education raised everyone’s standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:46 PM
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I think that’s a ridiculous standard. Obviously I wouldn’t sleep naked in bed with a platonic girl friend, but my girlfriend has to trust me to a degree everytime we’re not in the same room. Earned trust is healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:25 PM
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How do you define BP? I just got here, but it seems like BP is just what RP considers the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:22 PM
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Men have the option of wearing condoms or getting a vasectomy. Anyway if we had free childcare, healthcare, and education, and a baseline amount of garunteed housing and food, then it wouldn’t be necessary. The solution is to help everyone instead of deciding which individual to fuck over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:21 PM
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Market forces aren’t eternal laws of the universe, anymore than fancy dinner etiquette is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 12:37 PM
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Are plates, AWALT, negging, the wall, all concepts that are secretly about cultivating the transcendent bonding of two souls? And some of us just treat human beings as human beings instead of as commodities. Something something commodity fetishism could literally never be more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 02:30 AM
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Cults usually start with the inoffensive self-help stuff to get you invested before they further indoctrinate you. This is straight out of the Scientology handbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 11:53 PM
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Makes me sound quite shitty, I know Yeh, I do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 10:50 PM
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Cults usually start with the inoffensive self-help stuff to get you invested before they further indoctrinate you. This is straight out of the Scientology handbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 10:48 PM
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I called an idea (not person) shitty. He called a specific woman a “hole”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 10:45 PM
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I spelt it wrong, but looks like you followed suit. Anyway, are you tring to do a “what if the genders were reversed?”! thing? Cause it still doesnt’t work. Let’s look at the front page: BDSM joke Political joke about abortion A post about sexual harrasment being bad A joke basically from The Office but replace gay guy with straight woman Student loan stuff TOTALLY NOT ROBOT joke Literally a post celebrating strong father figures letting their sons open up about their feeling Someone saying they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 10:33 PM
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Nah Edit: Since RP views women as, not human beings to have a mutually respectful and beneficial relationship with, but as things to achieve or win in the “marketplace” (not at all creepy phrasing), it seems like another instance of insecure guys projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 10:10 PM
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I agree. “Trashy” is generally used to denigrate poor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 06:24 PM
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That’s like saying manual labourers desire an unequal power dynamic. When I criticize capitalism, I’m criticizing capitlaists, not workers. Same with sex workers and gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 06:20 PM
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These answers are pretty good, but the real answer is… ASK HER. Don’t play games. Maybe she’s playing games, or maybe she’s doing it unconciously, but talking to her like a human person is the best thing to do. (Not a woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:34 PM
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He called a historically important and intelligent woman a “hole” in the next comment and you’re going after me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:33 PM
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Oh so you’re just a reactionary. That’s cool, I guess. But hey, here’s a secret: power can exist in multiple ways!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:01 PM
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Lol, thinking dieing for your master is good but, y’know, mutually respecting relationships between two people is bad. So brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 02:00 PM
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It’s cool man, not everyone learns how to read complex writing. Don’t be ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 01:58 PM
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Sounds like you have mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 01:57 PM
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It’s a ridculous view with no room for nuance. What if the person you’re loyal to tries to kill themself? It’s unloyal to go against their wishes and it’s unloyal to allow harm to come to them. What if they ask you to help them molest some children? Surely people can change, so are you loyal to the person today, or the person ten years from now who’s essentially a different person?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 01:52 PM
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How does it feel to know that Mary Wollstonecraft debunked your shitty ideas 200 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 01:49 PM
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This is exactly what’s wrong with trp mentality. I don’t want to be a slave, but I also don’t want to be a master. Read some fucking Hegel and learn how to have a mutual relationship with anyone in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:55 PM
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Imagine being this binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:53 PM
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How Fruedian. “I just want a mommy to love me no matter what.” (Mostly joking, don’t get offended, fellow men)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:49 PM
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If by feminist, you mean liberal feminist, then I agree. But many feminists are leftists and many leftists are feminist. But if you think gender should be ignored for the sake of class, you’re a brocialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:43 PM
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Politically they do, but they’re not a monolith politically. Some support Israel, some support Palestine, some are conservatives, some liberals or leftists etc. But for the most part they’re all anti-anti-semitism. Just like women are more likely to be feminist, or at least anti-misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:41 PM
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All groups push for their ideas to be mainstream, bhuddist monks excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 12:02 PM
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This is what we call a brocialist. Even Marx+Engels recognized the oppression of women, although it clearly wasn’t their focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 11:59 AM
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I think the women red pill sub is equally as disgusting as the red pill but they’re harming themselves more than anything else so it’s harder to attack. This question reads like, “why is the KKK bad but the Black Panthers okay?” Which is a bad take. I critcize groups that treat other people as a means to an end. If there was a group that was actually just about an issue men has (how to emotionally manipulate women doesn’t count) then I’d be cool with it. I’d also criticize a subreddit that was f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 11:19 AM
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Well nothing’s going to be done aboutbit if we all pretend that it’s not a problem or that it’s “beneficial.” The most minor possible thing we could do would be to make it socially unacceptable, which won’t happen by denying it’s harm. I think a 40 year old man should fave legal consquences for yelling at a 16 year girl about her tits from his car. Obviously there’s no hard lines with this stuff but anything’s better than being a SQW. Edit: Also, education from a young age on how to not harass w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 09:14 PM
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Another good quote from source 2. Self-objectification is even found in women who view sexual objectification as harmless or even complimentary (Fairchild & Rudman, 2008). Research has linked self-objectification to mental health outcomes such as depression, disordered eating, and reduced productivity. So, the sexual objectification of women indirectly contributes to their mental health problems because it leads to self-objectification (Augustus-Horvath & Tylka, 2009; Fredrickson & Roberts, 1997…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 08:23 PM
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How is a study about how sexual objectification has negetative effects not in disagreement to the statement that “sexual harassment exists on a continuum of behavior of that is unibjectionable and even beneficial. It’s literally the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 08:22 PM
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Sexually her alpha Unless you mean BDSM, wat this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 08:18 PM
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Well here’s a study that disagrees with you. Here’s an overview of a bunch more. The current literature makes it clear that sexual objectification is both directly and indirectly linked to various mental health distresses and disorders in women, including anxiety, depression, disordered eating, and reduced experiences of flow and productivity. Constant experiences of sexual objectification cause women to internalize society’s scrutiny; the resulting self-objectification leads to habitual body mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 07:48 PM
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you tell women what they want to hear Actually my current gf was “redpilled” and depressed because of it and it took a lot of arguing to get her out of that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 05:59 PM
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I haven’t said anything about castration. I disagree that harassing women is an inevitable part of the dynamic between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 05:56 PM
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No I’ve changed. But the only reason to be tradcon is because you are in the group that benefits from the status quo or because those are the values you’ve been instilled with. Reactionary is the opposite of progressive. Women get more rights, reactionaries try to fight back. Gay people get married, reactionaries fight back. Peopfle want to not be discriminated against because of religion or countey of origin, reactionaries fight back. Also I don’t have tattoos, and I’m extremely introverted, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:46 PM
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I don’t know if that has predisposed me to default to those ideas It has. Reactionaries gonna react.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:30 PM
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I can’t tell if you’re making a point here. But scientology isn’t just a religion. It’s dangerous and harmful and literally infiltrated the US government successfully. Not a conspiracy theory, it’s well known, public record stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:27 PM
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specifically asked Right. And you specifically claimed that because men you like have sexually harassed women, that sexual harassment was a necessary product of the “dynamism” between genders. Myself and other men have done just fine not harassing women, and I’d rather not be patronized to, and told it’s impossible for me to keep my hand out of the cookie jar because muh human nature. I also know women who have never been “raging bitches.” Other things that were seen as natural at one point beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:20 PM
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So women are more likely to be honest about wanting something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 04:01 PM
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From your OP you sound incredibly degrading of women. Your hypothetical blue pilled man loves his partner, but she just gets dicked down into submission. You’ll never have a satisfying relationship with someone you don’t biew as an equal. It’s the master slave dialectic. You search for validation and recognition in them, but because they are not percieved as equal, you can never be recognized by an equal, and thus, fully validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 03:57 PM
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You seem to just imply that it’s inevitable that the men who you enjoy will also harass women. I don’t think men need lower sex drives to not harass women, but it sounds like you do by bringing it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 03:49 PM
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Well here’s a survey saying 81% of women have been sexually harrased. So if you consider 81% of women to be pretty, then you are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 03:45 PM
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I’m a straight white male with horrible anxiety and have experienced long periods of lonlieness; I’ve been told I look like a school shooter and that I look like a holocaust victim (scrawny) both by multiple people. I get it. It sucks. I never became a misogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 03:24 PM
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Haha just let me threaten your life it’s all in good fun. Sure women are raped all the time, but did you have a full psych evaluation if this specific guy to be sure he was mentally prepared to rape you? Silly women. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 03:09 PM
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I think Simone de Beauvoir was right when said that people who think equality of the sexes means we’ll be losing certain social dynamics were correct, but it’s ony because we lack imagination that we think that means everything will be boring. I don’t think I lost out on having an interesting relationship with my parents just because they didn’t beat me like in ye olden days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 03:07 PM
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Harassers don’t just target “pretty women”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:59 PM
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Call your parents, ask this question on /r/askphilosophy and stop taking life advice from the internet equivalent of this comic book ad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:52 PM
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Scientology does have some effective counseling stuff, especially at the beginning. That was the point. In what ways is it a cult? Decades old self-help advice repackaged in some new trendy way✅ Insecure men who just discovered reactionary political beliefs✅ A shallow view of human interaction as merely transactional✅ Emotional manipulation to make yourself feel like a strong manly man✅ A see through veneer of “scientific” language✅ An in-group circlejerk of superiority and belief that everyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:41 PM
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How would you respond to someone who said Scientology made them better with people? “That’s great, but it’s still a cult.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 01:54 PM
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