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the point is that i don't think your going to treat your partner well if your not in love with them. living with them, having kids with them, spending time with them, trying to have sex with them. Every arranged marriage (well over a hundred) I know of started without love just commitment to being married. The vast majority of them are going quite well with the partners believing they learned to love each other. how is that facade supposed to be maintained over decades? hell even just mere years…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:51 PM
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Love can evolve with time, at least with women it can because physical appearance is not the only thing we consider in a partner. And if even if she never falls in love with him, if she treats him decently, what's the problem? It's better to be with a good person who treats their partner with ethics; than to be with someone who loves their partner, but still can't suppress their desire to cheat or be controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:29 PM
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A woman will date/marry an ugly man if he is good to her. This never happens when the woman is ugly or even just less than beautiful than a group of the women around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:24 PM
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I don't think it's not that they never meet, but that so-called "lonely" men just refuse to date and/or marry the women that would care for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:23 PM
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It think it's a good idea, but men would never agree to it. They struggle with equal relationships. I don't they could share.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 06:21 PM
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And yes respect and how it will play out is 100% important when analyzing why outcomes are what they are. Not really, and only when it involves men respecting women. Women love and marry men we don't respect all the time. I know most men don't like to think about this, but it's the truth (and they should be grateful for this). My main point is that maintaining a home is not hard. If that were remotely true, there would be a lot more house husbands. There aren't because men don't the daily grind …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:25 PM
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You are deliberately misinterpreting my words. Women definitely do want house husbands. It's just nearly impossible to find men who will agree to this lifestyle. Whether or not women who are financial providers respect their house husbands is not the point, nor is it remotely important considering how little respect most men have for house wives. Women who have house house husbands probably have the same range of feelings toward their partners as of men who have house wives. The fact that so few…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:30 PM
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Men are open about their misogyny because of anonymity of the internet. In real life, most men lie. Some are even good at it. For the most part, women are completely open, but men REFUSE to believe it when we tell them the truth because men don't want to be accountable for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:04 PM
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Virtually every time mothers, grandmothers, aunts, etc., are talking to their younger women and girls this kind of advice happens. This something that women talk about all the time, but not in front of men. Because that's dangerous. It gives evil men ammunitions in their war to enslave women. Even before I got my period, my adoptive mother and other women relatives warned me (and all other female relatives) that most men only use women for sex and should never be trusted. The same was true for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:01 PM
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Men don't respect house wives either and likelihood of a husband cheating goes up significantly also, if he knows he can abuse a woman that is financially dependent on him. The SAH dads you have meet are not typical of actually "house husbands" who do the domestic and childcare work exclusively while their wives support the family financially. It is a different dynamic. One that a lot of women with good middle class jobs would love to have, but can't get because most men refuse to actually do ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 03:34 PM
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Marriage has been officially blowing up since divorce got easier which way preceded the internet. Of course, prior to that people were still cheating on their spouses or just leaving their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:24 PM
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First off. How many House Husbands do you know? I literally don't know any. I have meet some. They usually look good and are good with children. Powerful women who want children do want these type of men, but it's extremely hard to find them. Most men do not want to be house husbands once they realize how much work running a house and raising children actually is compared to running a business or having a high paying career.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:19 PM
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It's absolutely hysterical to listen to men describe what they think women want. It's like listening to a blind person describe what they think something looks like. Women don't like power imbalances. We've just have had to tolerate them. Men have always had the luxury of thinking about pleasure in relationships. Women think survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 09:15 PM
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I'm sure those guys are just flooded with matches daily. They had even less chance pre-internet to find someone compatible. Which meant guys only had to complete against other men in the same group for women more than one of them might like. Now they have to compete with guys she matches with across the state or while traveling. The same was true for women. The difference is women are willing to make the effort to find someone. This post definitely sounds like it's coming from someone who has li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:40 PM
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This is a refreshingly honest post for the Purple Pill Debate. I am sure all the incels and misogynists will be quick to trash it however. Yes, the internet has made dating and acquiring a partner a thousand times easier for most men, yet they still whine that they have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:36 PM
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Sounds like you’re continuing to blame women for the fact that men will lead them on and lie to them to get sex. What did you expect from the red pill. It's always been misogyny rebranded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:43 PM
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Here’s what ACTUAL brutally honest dating advice for women would look like: you’re probably not special, just because a man sleeps with you doesn’t mean he’d ever consider anything long term, you can’t fuck your way into a relationship, you’re probably shooting for men out of your league, you need to compromise on some of your standards, and you need to make yourself more inviting to men who approach you if you want guys to make the first move. This is what women hear ALL their lives ALL the tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 07:41 PM
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Most men don't have the benefit of potential partners throwing themselves at them Only because most men absolutely refuse to put in the effort and expense made by the average woman to find a partner. Men can get partners by being clean and non-abusive. While women have to spend thousand of hours and dollars completely remaking ourselves in order to be acceptable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:56 PM
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Absolutely, if women have to do this all the time, men should also. Attraction can grow over time also.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:25 PM
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It doesn't make sense to believe both that women cannot change their mind about how attractive you are immediately after meeting AND that women lose the ability to pair bond with each person they have sex with. Here is a radical idea, The reason it doesn't make sense is that both propositions are complete bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:24 PM
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I think it's important for women to understand how men think. It's too easy to misunderstand men and think their minds work similar to ours and this leaves women in a vulnerable position. Misogyny is the enemy and gathering intel is necessary to fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:10 PM
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Sounds like the fox declaring the grapes are sour.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:25 AM
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The men on this board don't want to spend money on virgins who would choose death before dishonor. Most men don't want to spend money or effort on women under any circumstances. They just think their entitled to sex because they have a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:10 PM
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Companionship and a woman's attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:02 PM
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Bullshit. Men like the town bike. She's how they get their free sex. Red Pill men want to make every woman to be the town bike.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:02 PM
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Overwhelmingly its men who interpret basic politeness (not even friendship) for flirtation. Many men will interpret just the fact that a woman is willing to be in the same room as them as a reason to try to rape her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:05 PM
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It's hypergamy in the male mind anytime a woman less than supermodel tier dates a man over 5 foot tall who doesn't have acne scars all over his face and a unibrow. Oh, and the man has to be fat. If the woman is more than a size five, her dating any guy less than 300 lbs. is hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:34 PM
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As opposed to men who are the oldest toddlers in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:30 PM
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Men can fall in love with the cute cashier at McDonalds. Not unless the men are also cashiers at McDonalds or similar low wage work. Or the man is much older and looking for a sugar daddy relationship. Men don't like poor women and plenty of men, especially the ones on this board, absolutely hate having to pay for anyone other than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:29 PM
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The Tea app proves how low the quality of the average man is. Women want better, but we have to settle every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:26 PM
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All of those men could easily get dates if they asked average women out and treated them with respect. I was rejected hundred and hundreds of time on arranged dates for matrimonial purposes from the age of eighteen until I eventually married my late husband. I don't think I have ever had a man ask me out on a proper American style date with honest and respectful intentions. Sexual propositions aren't asking for dates, it's just men being jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:07 PM
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A man's honor and reputation can absolutely be damaged by approaching women. Women treat men whom they're not attracted to that approach, like garbage, in most cases. Sometimes, they even go as far as to attack their character, accusing them of being creepy or rapey. Bullshit. No man's honor and reputation has ever been damaged by politely and respectfully approaching a woman. Approaching like an asshole and inferring she owes him sex immediately, yeah that can sometimes ruin a man's reputation …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:38 PM
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Tesla was famous, Nobel was famous, Ratan was famous, Kalam was famous, all were good men, talked to women and socialised too but women never even considered them for marriage but for Tate....🥵...sorry had to say it. Tesla was an asshole that treated women who weren't thin like garbage. Nobel, Ratan, Kalam, etc., all could have found wives if they made some effort. And women lie to men...makeup is the most famous one. Men don't date women who don't wear makeup. Yeah is that why we have false cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:53 PM
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Men's honor and reputations aren't destroyed by approaching the opposite sex. A woman who approaches is considered a prostitute or a slut, either way her social respect is gone and she is considered trash. Men only want women to approach because it can be used to justify whatever rape and abuse they want to do to that women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:44 PM
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Sure...Tate didn't have to do any effort though lol. That's what I said abusive men get it easy. He had to get famous and he had to approach. That's more than the little cowards crying in the corner "Why won't a woman approach meee? Why won't she do everything for meee like my mommee did?" Men say what they mean. Men lie to women all the time. It's their default mode when talking to women. Yeah you do...don't tell us what to wear and shit and like we dress for ourselves not to please men, should…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:35 PM
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Nah the one who introduced the nobel prize proposed twice but never got married. Twice is not much effort. He would have kept trying if he honestly wanted a wife. No they don't. Put it in ask men sub and see I am right. Men lie all the time in the ask men sub. But I've observed how men act. Actions speak louder than words. Men have nothing, but contempt and desire to victimize women who approach them. Apart from being raped...men are higher victims of other two...next. Also the women who do albe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:19 PM
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Abusive men get women easily than non abusive ones That's because those abusive men approached a woman and he was unfortunately her only option. Women who approach men are considered lower than prostitutes and treated worse than prostitutes. Women don't approach men because we don't want to get raped, abused, and murdered. We already have to do too damn much with the beauty performance to get men attracted. Men have to do something and contribute something for their to be a relationship. And if …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:56 PM
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If he's too shy to approach, he's too shy for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:29 PM
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It's not a theory. It's just a lie loser men tell themselves because they don't want to admit how pathetic and worthless they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:28 PM
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Because there are so many women looking for husbands (husbands not fucking slave masters). As long as a man is clean and non-abusive, he can get a woman to marry him. Now unless he is actually willing to put in some effort (which most men absolutely refuse to do), the women willing to marry that man will not look like a swimsuit model or be very wealthy, but legions of wonderful, but average women looking women have to settle for just "not abusive" in order to have a partner. Finally, if a guy c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:26 PM
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Lack of curiosity, intellectual or otherwise, makes a guy boring to me. I am a life long learner. I am never not trying to study something, formally or informally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:02 PM
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The average woman using the same level of grooming as the average man would more likely be attacked and/or rape on the suspicion that she was a lesbian than get a date. She certainly would not get a date with a man of the same attractiveness level and social standing as her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:51 PM
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Jfc what does rape or abuse have to do with this? How would that correlate with attractiveness? Rape and physical abuse are things women always have to consider when they deal with men. Attractiveness is a factor because the less attractive a woman is the less likely she will be protected from male abuse or believed if she reports crimes against her. All I'm saying is the average women can still pull average or attractive men relatively easily (compared to average men) if they want. It's not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:48 PM
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You are completely delusional about the lives of average women. Average women have to starve and work day and night in order to reach the beauty standards that average men require for a woman to earn a date. Any "options" a woman has she paid for in blood and pain. Men don't have to do this. As long as a man isn't an abusive freak, he can easily find a partner. I say it bluntly if a man doesn't have a partner it is only because he is an entitled jerk who has rejected numerous women on his level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:34 PM
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You are completely delusional about the lives of average or ugly women. We are lucky if we don't get raped or otherwise abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:28 PM
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Bullshit! Absolute bullshit! Even the lowest tier of men can get attention and love from women (women on their level that is, not the top tier) if the men make the most minimal effort. Any man that doesn't have a woman that adores him is just too damn lazy and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:27 PM
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I absolutely think this. This has always been my experience as a woman. It's the experience of almost every woman on earth except a few top beauties who represent less than 1% of the female population and even they have to live with knowing their men can discard them when their looks fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:56 PM
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Most women live all our lives knowing even guys vastly less attractive than us have 50x more options than we do. That's normal life for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:51 PM
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Bullshit. I am pointing out what the goalposts are. People go on Tinder for casual sex, not marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:20 PM
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It's the absolute truth that men refuse to acknowledge because they would be forced to admit that their loneliness is their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:18 PM
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I think it's a wonderful idea and wish it had been around when I was dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:31 PM
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It's incredibly common. Women are always being encouraged to fix loser guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:55 PM
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I would have have loved it as long as he understood that I would not have sex without him until we were married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:53 PM
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Only in the mind of men trying to deny that the only reason they are alone is their own actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:51 PM
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If that were remotely true women wouldn't be arming themselves like guerilla soldiers in parts of the United States (like where I live in Texas) to avoid being raped. We wouldn't have waiting lists at battered women's shelters. We wouldn't need battered women's shelters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:25 PM
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It's very easy. Men only chase the top beautiful women and ignore the vast majority of ordinary women. Men absolutely refuse to date average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:51 PM
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The biggest barrier is that women who do this are branded as sluts and likely to be abused and raped. We know how men think (as opposed to what they say). Men only value what they have to work hard to get. No woman wants to be a man's disposable freebie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:50 PM
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Bullshit. Men are treated like fucking gods in society. Beautiful women if they are lucky are treated like expensive merchandise (though like all merchandise they can brutalized). Ugly women are treated like lesser animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:22 PM
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Men always hurl that word "prostitute" out whenever women demand men take any financial responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 09:19 PM
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I like nerdy geeky quiet shy.. women. I actually don’t like super pretty women. They tend to be self absorbed and dont like men who are or could be smarter than them Your image is probably Hollywood's geek: a brunette with a model's body wearing sexy glasses. Not an actual geeky woman who has acne scars, short hair cut for safety, and ten or more extra pounds from living off what's available at the lab's cafeteria and/or vending machines. The conventional image of Beckie is a pretty young women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:43 PM
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Doing your makeup doesn't entitle you to a man's money. It absolutely does since he is the one who wants it. I utterly hate make up. I thought you mfers claim you do it for yourselves? Some women may claim they like make up. No one likes to admit when they are being treated poorly. I wear the goddamn make up because it's a social convention expected of women and because women who aren't beautiful are treated very badly by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:34 PM
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Absolute Bullshit and typical male gaslighting. The one universal nature I have found in men is they don't date ugly women. Hell, men don't even treat ugly women as human beings most of the time. Most men only care about how a women looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 07:25 PM
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These posts always baffle me… where are these women demanding you “pay up”? I’ve gone 40 years of life and never been expected to give anyone money outside of paying for things I want. Smart women who have to maintain the unnatural beauty image that so many red pill men expect, expect appropriate compensation and they are right. Now if a man doesn't want to be paying like this, he can just date women who don't do the beauty performance. But very few men want to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:36 PM
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Men are expected to pay rent, give her gifts, pay for dates, etc., because women are expected to spend thousands of dollars and thousand of hours maintaining the beauty image men demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:33 PM
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Plenty of religious people are average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:26 PM
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Then get off online dating and try connecting in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:25 PM
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Absolutely, when misogynists or just men in general (it's really hard to tell the difference between the two) try to claim their behavior is representative of the mainstream of feminism or the majority of women. Furthermore, terf + radfems and some female criminals often have valid points about the dangers men poise to women and civilization in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:22 PM
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Overwhelmingly a man. They have all the advantages in this culture and all others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:17 PM
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Bullshit. Misogynists play that victim shit to maintain their power. Misandry is just a slur misogynists use whenever women try to defend themselves or other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:17 PM
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Misogynist call women defending ourselves misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:21 PM
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You can try and work on yourself as much as you can but you can’t beat western eurocentric features that are deemed the pinnacle of beauty by nearly everyone. Bullshit! True, mediocre men unless they are very, very rich probably aren't going to get the pinnacle beauties of the female population. But the average mediocre women will date them, fall in love with them, and happily marry them. The problem is the average-to-mediocre man ABSOLUTELY REFUSES to date average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:11 PM
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I suggest you consider autism may be one of the factors limiting your interactions with women and consult professionals in how you can deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 11:03 PM
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Men are only overlooked if they make absolutely no effort. There are millions of women searching for partners (partners, not men who only want to use and abuse them). Basic decent treatment will get a man a wife. The problem is too many men refuse even to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:58 PM
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If you go to my church you’ll find well mannered young men who are ready for a relationship and are waiting until marriage to be intimate with another human, we recognise sex as a spiritual bond and connection, we value consent and self control, and yet a lot of men are assumed to only be seeking a sexual relationship over something meaningful, Many women have learned from painful experiences and abuse that plenty of men will say this and then treat women horribly, so they are wary of men who ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:25 PM
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They are very slow to use words like misogyny, and when they do are more likely to apply it to feminism than they are to men. In other words, "pick mes" that betray other women for male approval. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:19 PM
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Yeah, right. You don't understand how mentally healthy women work at all, if you believe women prefer average men that are already taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:07 PM
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There was no hatred in anything which I asserted. You asserted that women lie about what they say they want and insinuated that we purposefully choose bad men (as if we had any choice in the matter, women just accept what is available). That is hateful against women. The definition of misogyny. Why label men simply sharing their experience as misogynist? Because men sharing their experience always seem to blame women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:06 PM
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Any relationship starts as "hookup". Nobody in their right mind comes to the first date looking for a life-long partner. No. That is absolutely not true. Plenty of people, and its the cultural norm for some religious groups including mine, that dating is essentially interviewing for marriage. I have never gone on a date where that was not the understand premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:19 PM
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Dude, Tinder is for hookups, not relationships/marriage. Of course, Tinder all about sexually desirability and physical looks. If you want a woman looking beyond that, you need to get out in real life or go to other sites geared toward people looking for relationships based on something other than casual sex. I've watched men marry actual war criminals happily because "she is hot."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:27 PM
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More like you see one or two cases involving men that were already highly desirable and decide to use that as excuse for why women don't want anything to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:24 PM
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No, we don't. Misogynst men just remember a few cases and try to use them as examples to gaslight everyone about reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:22 PM
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I've even read online that men that reach middle age being single, are likely to be pedos. Certainly plenty of abused children have told me that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:42 AM
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Only in incel fantasies. Women are more interested in whether or not a man is attractive to whatever her preference is and whether or not he can be trusted. Women will love an ugly guy if he is decent to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:41 AM
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Not really, plenty of women (good women) consider a man who has a woman already as off-limits and we don't want anything to do with such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:38 AM
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Such disgusting insults are absolutely attempts to shame women over their looks and their lack of appeal to men. You really need to socialize more and learn about social cues and how people communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:36 AM
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That probably because you haven't spent much time around women. Insulting women for not being chosen by men is a international sport. Incredibly common throughout the world. The default insult used by men is always that a woman is so ugly they wouldn't fuck her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:32 AM
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Now, put your fingers in your ears and start chanting "Nah, Nah, Nah, Na, I can't hear you."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:22 AM
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Absolutely, I know that professional taken photos, $80 haircuts and clothes picked by a stylist will get zero matches if you come across as a misogynistic jerk in your written statements. Unlike most men, women actually read the profile information on dating sites. Just looking good isn't important if your personality sucks. And the professional taken photos, $80 haircuts and clothes picked by a stylist will not compensate for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:20 AM
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I don't think you are understanding the advice those women are giving you. Their advice is how to make the best possible impression of how you would treat a woman in the relationship in order to be desirable to a woman looking for a relationship. It works quite well if you are looking for a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:16 AM
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Clinging with desperation to your delusions is not going to change reality, incel. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45284455 Women have been insulted, treated like social pariahs and often abused for centuries because they were not chosen by men. Men have never had this occur to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:58 PM
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Absolutely, there is nothing inherently virtuous in working. If someone can support themselves and their family without a job. Good for them. Enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:06 PM
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It depends. If the man who already has a lot of resources, which I think we can safely define for this discussion as wealth, I would want him IF he agrees to put those resources under my control. I know how to preserve wealth. Now if he didn't want me to manage the money, or more literally the people I hire to manage the money; I would not want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:39 PM
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I have been in the dating world for over a decade. I know the truth. Men only care about the top 1% of attractive women and then only if they can maintain the illusion that those women might possibly fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:16 PM
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Plenty of men, most men, get more than 30 matches in their lifetimes and they reject most of them for not being "pretty" or "hot" enough. And online dating is far from real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:14 PM
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Adult virgin women don't want inferior men. So if a man wants a virgin wife, he better be prepared to offer something way above average. Whether that's voluntary virginity on his part, physical appearance, social status, wealth, or most likely a combination of all these qualities, its going to have to be as exceptional as she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:59 PM
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Overwhelmingly, I was rejected often with brutal insults. I was a size 12. My family wasn't wealthy. And I wasn't going to have sex before marriage. Average men hate women like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:42 PM
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You're delusional, snowflake, right up there with the conspiracy theorists that think the global "cabal" is harvesting adrenochrome. Average people can pair up rather quickly if they want to be in a relationship. I been seeing that happen for decades. Of course, it's vastly easier for men, even very subpar men, because there are so many more women looking for relationships than men (the vast majority of which only want casual sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:40 PM
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I probably had at least two hundred arranged introductions (that's how it's done in my culture) before I meet my late husband and around the same for meeting my second husband. Just keep trying. Sometimes people have to slog through hundreds to find the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:30 PM
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The degree to which you are trying to deny the truth and shift blame away from the horrible actions of so many men is pretty disgusting and pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:27 PM
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Tinder is for hook-ups, you not going to find a good date there. Try real life social interaction or look for dating sites geared to specialized interests that you might share with a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:20 PM
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You live in a fantasy world if you try to deny this. It's is incredible easy for men to get dates and/or wives. If a man is alone and his not somewhere in the middle of the wilderness, it is completely because he has deliberately chosen to reject dozens of available women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:15 PM
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You are probably chasing women vastly above you in terms of looks and socio-economic status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:11 PM
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The average guys have as much control of the "sexual marketplace" as any woman does. You act like an average guy can easily overcome average looks? 😂. Yes, if he wants to date a woman with above average looks, it won't be easy for him. That's the law of nature. However, there are plenty of average women who would be glad to date him AS LONG as he accepts her as average looking and doesn't demand she spent thousands of dollars and hours in order to improve her looks to be above average. In order …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:09 PM
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The current crop of average guys treat women like fleshlights who can fetch beer. They don't respect women. They are rude and make disgusting sexual requests. They won't act like gentlemen. They won't try to date properly. They won't even try not to act like sexual predators. Most of them consider themselves entitled to women's bodies by just having a penis and breathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:02 PM
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What is delusion for $1000, Alex? A gender that only has to have basic hygiene and not be violent rapists in order to get a partner complaining that "dating is just too hard."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:56 PM
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I think dating for a heterosexual man is one of the easiest things in the human existence. Any heterosexual man that can't get a date is simply a loser that refuses to try or an asshole that refuses to date women of similar appearance and socio-economic status.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:31 PM
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And in other news, water is wet and men definitely equate (involuntarily) single women with losers. Various names for unmarried women (Spinster, Old Maid, etc.) have been an insult for centuries. The term incel was actually began with an unpartnered woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:19 PM
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I would really have to think a lot about whether or not I wanted to continue dating him. My late husband had 'slut phase' before we got married and it was the single greatest problem we had. If I found out about "slug phase' when the dating just started, I would definitely break it off. If we had been dating for a long enough time and we seemed like a very good match, I might be willing to continue the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 09:15 PM
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It makes me very angry at men. I know if a man is alone, it's a choice. There are too many women looking for relationships. Unfortunately, these women are ignored by most men because they aren't "pretty" enough or sexually promiscuous enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:26 PM
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If you are religious, your place of worship/religious community is often the prefect environment for meeting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:24 PM
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Plenty of women lack romantic experience throughout their teens and twenties, but no one seems to give a damn about them. Why should I care about men? Men only have to be decent in order to get dates or romantic attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:23 PM
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I believe sex before marriage is immoral, so this would be none issue with me. I expect him to be prepared to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 05:57 PM
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This is mansplaining at it's best. Most men (99% of heterosexual men) have no idea what natural women are. They think Taylor Swift is just the "average." Men consider anorexic dolls "normal" weight and the average women lives constantly battling her weight. And the "natural" makeup requires just as much effort, products, and money as the high glamour makeup look. Same amount of money if not more. Same amount of effort. And long hair is absolute bitch to maintain: expensive, uncomfortable and tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 05:10 PM
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Not with the current technological level were women can defend themselves with more than brute strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:14 PM
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Then a lot of men need to grow up, stop acting like spoiled brats, and appreciate what they have got. Women have to work day and night to maintain the attractiveness level that most men demand in the women they treat even remotely decent. Current men do not like or even appreciate natural women. They want, no they demand, artificial dolls. So hell, yes women expect men to work hard. It's only fair that men put in at least some work after all the hell women have to go through to be considered att…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:11 PM
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If women suddenly took every opportunity of low risk getting caught - it would end the world. Sometimes I wonder darkly if it wouldn't remake the world into a better place, if men were forced to realize how ultimately disposable they could be to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:02 AM
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How many people would reject convenient sex within low risk scenarios? Plenty. Unfortunately, their voices aren't common on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:35 PM
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And all these cheating assholes would be royally furious if their wives started sampling every opportunity to cheat that was available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:31 PM
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He can be attractive with a decent job, and she'll still mess up the relationship and leave over his hookup with some random ugly bar fly. Would you make the same statement to man and encourage him not to leave the relationship over a random hook-up. I think not. Don't like an ugly bar fly? Bring someone you like instead. Would you encourage a man to recruit another man who has qualities he likes to be his wife's lover. I think not. It's not like he can get pregnant, so why even see it as cheati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:30 PM
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If you actually believed this were true, you wouldn't be talking about it. You would spend time on things that give you pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:18 PM
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- it shows that the man likes going outside and spending time in nature I hate going out and spending time in nature. I had enough of that unpleasantness as a child. - it means that he can put food on your table (literally) Not really. Agriculture and animal husbandry is more effective. - fishermen enjoy eating delicious fresh fish that is much better than storebought aquaculture or microplastic infested wild caught slop The fish individual fishermen catch is identical microplastic infested wild…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:40 PM
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We know most men only care about how attractive a woman is, so of course we put the best possible photographs on a dating site.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:08 PM
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Buying sex hands down is worse. Selling sex may be because of any number of reasons some of them quite altruistic (supporting one's family for example). But buying sex just means someone is willing to be immoral to satisfy their libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:05 PM
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I'm always been attracted to a lot of guys, but once I actually interact with them that ends quickly. Back when I considered men that way it was very for me to encounter a man I actually liked once I interacted with him. Most men were/are just too immoral, disgusting, and disrespectful for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:42 PM
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Women are not a monolith. We have individual, unique personalities, so the answer is it depends on the woman. If a woman values money and status, yes she absolutely will look down on a man with less wealth. If money and an status is not important to a woman, she will not look down on a man with less wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:16 PM
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Your initial premise if highly flawed. Not all feminist or all women believe paying for sex with prostitutes is always non-consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:59 PM
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Nope. Your "point" is that average guys are rejected and it is not the fault of these average guys. Your "point" is that this is completely beyond the control of poor, little average guys and they deserve pity. My point is that average guys are rejected and it is completely these guys' fault. It is completely something they can control. They could change their behavior and not be rejected. Since they refuse to do anything, these unwanted average guys don't deserve pity, they deserve scorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:56 PM
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Threat woman with the same decency you would a male friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:11 PM
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Most average guys are not ignored. Most average guys are rejected for being assholes. Average guys think they entitled to supermodels without making any effort to be better men. They deserve dying alone and unmourned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:10 PM
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women often catch feelings for the hookup guy (who’s attractive) and wants more than the other way around. Only in the imaginations of delusional redpillers and incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 11:32 PM
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You are just trying to deny reality. why does it always go back to abuse with women?' Because so many men abuse women. Because the most likely person to kill a woman is her husband. Life for women is like life for soldiers in a war zone. Danger is a constant. Women live worrying about survival. It's no more a ridiculous cop out than a soldier in battle worrying about the enemy. Women know men can change into the enemy on a whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:59 PM
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You should try paying attention to women of your on ethnicity first. More stable marriages occur when spouses have a common culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:55 PM
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There isn't anything outside of looks that most men care about. The smartest thing a woman can do to guarantee a long term marriage with the typical man is make damn sure it will cost him too much economically to get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:53 PM
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Bullshit. All most men care about is what a woman looks like and virtually no women meets the insane beauty standards of modern men without a ton of make-up and clothing that accents her body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:51 PM
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You've never spent anytime talking to women have you? Women go after different types of guys for according to our reasons for using them. But by the time most of us are out of adolescences or earlier we also know what the different guys are good for. And which types of guys are never useful for anything. We call those guys the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:25 PM
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The women I know who hook up deliberately look for non-marriage material men for hooks-ups. The point of hooking up is that it's casual sex. It's not suppose to mean anything other than pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 10:07 PM
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It's only a mindfuck if the guys are only interested in women who want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:46 PM
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Only if you consider being used for recreational sex by someone whose bored with vibrators winning? Women don't pin for commitment with the disposable guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:45 PM
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You really have never talked to a woman have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:43 PM
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No, You just have red pill delusions of understanding. The guys women choose for hook-ups are the disposable ones. My friends that did or still do hookups only had one type of guy they choose for hook-ups: the ones that wouldn't give them drama or look for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:21 PM
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Your willfully ignorant. Women who want to hook-up have completely different criteria for those guys than they do for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:06 PM
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More men fuck women they hate all the time because it gives them tingles than women who do this. Attraction and desire can absolutely be negotiated with plenty of women, if, and this is the biggest if of them all, if a man is willing to listen to what a woman tells him and actually follow the advice the woman gives. Respect is something that can be earned with women at least. Lately, I am starting to believe most men don't have the intellectual or moral capacity to understand what respect is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:05 PM
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A lot times what men think is a "regular, amicable conservation" isn't that. Women are taught to be polite from birth. We don't usually tell a man he is disgusting or racists or sexists, etc., unless the guy is really the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel trash and its necessary to humiliate him to get rid of him, we just cut off contact. Unfortunately, too many men refuse to understand that simple politeness is not the same as interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:56 PM
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Women only get annoyed when average men think they have a chance with them because so many average guys refuse to make any effort to be desirable to a woman, but then think women vastly above average should be delighted in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:48 PM
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I have to disagree. Plenty of women don't want hook-ups and guys that are hook-up material are immediately not considered for marriage. Among the women I know who do hook-up, they all agree that hook-up guys should never be considered for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:44 PM
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Plenty of women don't say that. I strongly suspect those who do, so so because they don't want to admit who much men abuse them with beauty culture. No one likes admitting to be abused and tortured.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:09 PM
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Women DO NOT receive free attention. We pay for it in starvation dieting, thousands of dollars invested in beauty treatments, clothing, make-up, etc. Men do not give attention to ugly women, only beauties. Meanwhile if a man showers daily, he can get a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:55 PM
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I have learned that misogyny is much worse and more prevalent than I ever thought. I have learned that I should probably never give my husband benefit of a doubt on anything. I have learned what an anomaly my first marriage was.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:13 PM
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Your initial premise is extremely incorrect. Beautiful women who are sexually available are sought-after. The average women unless she spends endless hours and thousands of dollars of money working everyday on her appearance is not sought-after. She is treated worse than a dog. Men are the privileged gender. Men only have to be clean and not beggars in order to be accepted. Though if men are rich enough they can be as filthy as the the worst street people and still get partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:36 PM
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Since I don't post pictures of myself online and don't remain friends with people who post pictures of me over my objection, the only way he could have obtained online pictures of me would have involved some sort of shady behavior, I would be mad as hell. He wouldn't be my boyfriend or my friend after that confession.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:11 PM
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People who listed real characteristics about themselves (religion, political views, likes and dislikes) that matched what I was looking for. When I was dating I wanted to discuss the deal breaker issues immediately, so I didn't waste a lot of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:19 PM
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I have honestly NEVER encountered a man that meet the criteria outlined above that was not married within six months of deciding he wanted to be married. The only men I know who "cannot attract women" are just losers virtually no one would want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:12 PM
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When a marriage is good, it is wonderful great thing. And having kids with a partner is much better than being a single parent. Unfortunately, good marriages aren't that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:47 PM
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In Orthodox Judaism a non virgin female has to declare lack of virginity before the marriage contract is signed or its grounds for mekach ta’ut and the marriage is dissolved. Plenty of orthodox men marry women who do just that, declare lack of virginity in their marriage contract. It's actually rather common. Unless he's a Cohen virginity is not a requirement for marriage. The mekach ta'ut issue is not the lack of virginity, but simply that it was not acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:52 PM
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Common folks want comfortable lives as much as the aristocrats. They are going to look for money and status and anything else that makes their lives better. So yes, marriage will be looked like just like a business deal with them also. The terms were different, but it was always bargaining for the best deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:14 PM
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Not really. As someone whose lived deep in one very traditional culture (Orthodox Judaism) and has a lot of experience with both Serbian Orthodox Christianity and Bosnian Islam, I can confidently say that virginity was only important if the woman was poor (i.e., virginity was the only thing a poor woman had to offer). What money or connections a woman brought into the marriage outranked virginity all the time and of course, what she looked like. Beauty could easily compensate for money. But most…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 07:11 PM
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I've seen it happen usually widows marrying friends of their dead husband, so it's certainly possible. I would say it is much harder than a woman marrying when she is not pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:46 PM
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Enjoy your voluntary celibacy and lonely life. Find some time-consuming hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 08:46 PM
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why don’t women want a best friend as a partner? This is actually what plenty of women want. The problem is very few men can fulfill this criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:57 PM
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How is this difficult to understand? Gay male besties are safe. They are not going to rape us. Bisexual men are just as dangerous as heterosexual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:56 PM
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Who doesn't want attention from the romantic partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:41 PM
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Then acknowledge that reality can't be changed and either get up the courage to approach a woman or die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:17 PM
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Good women don't emotionally manipulate or physically abuse their men, but men don't like good women. Men despise good women and only chase the bad women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:10 PM
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Men don't hate gold diggers they hate the fact they cant afford them. I agree 110%.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:16 PM
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I think it's about safety. We want a man we can trust emotionally and physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:15 PM
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I would never approach a man in the sense that you are suggesting. It goes against every aspect of my moral fiber and basic common sense. I would rather fuck a pig (and I am an observant religious Jew) than approach a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:37 PM
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I get very angry. I have fantasies that involve flame-throwers, wood-choppers, and steam rollers. Of course, I am a civilized adult, so I don't act on these fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:31 PM
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Pain in the ass? you mean having to do your own laundry and not cheat Be realistic. Pain in the ass can also including a man having to do dishes, look after their own children, and not spend all the family money on fantasy football.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:31 PM
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A lot of women have to fight to survive. Survival comes first, but surviving the hell that men make for women requires strength and independence. And the average person, male or female isn't strong or independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:00 PM
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She could easily lose $500 from her paycheck because she too battered or traumatized from abuse that she cannot go to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:53 PM
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Women make less money than men because of discrimination. Because of men who see any unattached women (and plenty of attached one) as targets to be abused and raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:47 PM
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Dude, are you autistic? Because that's the only way, I can understand you not getting this. Slang doesn't necessarily make sense. Slang just evolves from language and sometimes the connection between the literal meaning of slang terms and the actual meaning is tenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:39 PM
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No, men don't. All men have to do is not rape and beat their wives. Any man who thinks that is a sacrifice needs to be incarcerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:50 PM
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It’s a well known fact how much MOST men hate makeup and plastic surgery on women. This is complete bullshit. Most men do not know what a women without makeup looks like. When most men encounter a woman without makeup, they accuse of being lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:27 PM
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Speaking based on the conversations with all my female friends who have a lot of sex with different men. It's not about the penis at all. It's about the sex. "Good dick" is a slang expression some women use to describe a man who is a good lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:33 PM
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They have to make tremendous sacrifices to be in those marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:30 PM
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You cannot say that because you pay tax women owe you sex. There is no moral argument to be made. Last time, I checked the tax rates aren't based on gender. Plenty of women pay more taxes than the men that post on this board.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:19 PM
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Not really, every women I have met, except a few very, top of the pyramid beauties, have had the exact same experience. Men do not value women unless we conform to current Western beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:00 PM
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First suggestion, get off OLD, or at least the big general sites like Match.com. In general OLD is disaster for finding an actual partner. There are a few specialized sites that have helped many people find their partner, but those sites are usually religious in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:51 PM
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For most of human history (as in until only a few decades ago) marriage has been a contract and people tried to find any loop hole in that contract to get what they wanted. The only difference now is that women aren't as completely disadvantaged in negotiating and exercising our option to leave as we were in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:12 PM
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Most average guys are not raping murderers that do not stink but are constantly ignored. Having spent too damn much time around the average guy, I wholeheartedly disagree. Too many men are unhygienic trolls who want to be rapists. Most men are not constantly ignored and could easily get dates and wives if they concentrated their efforts toward women of their same level (race, religion, social class, physical similarity, etc.). Men get ignored (and they deserve worse) when they pursue women above…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:25 PM
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There are 30+ year-olds here who don't smell and aren't rapists or murderers who've never even had one girlfriend. Women ask for a bit more than that. And every one of those 30+ have rejected countless women because they "weren't pretty" or they are just want-to-be rapists who were never successful at finding a victim. Most women who survive into our twenties have decent though not perfect radar for men who are dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:12 PM
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Bullshit! Total Bullshit. There have been times when I tried not doing all the damn shit men require for dating and actually ate meals that satisfied my hunger pains. I was treated like garbage. I never got dates or male attention that wasn't abuse or violence. The large number of guys who wanted to "gangbang the dyke out of me" don't count as "dates".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:58 PM
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It feels like someone dumped a bucket of pig shit on my head and said I deserved only the worse most degrading experiences in life because I was one of the worst persons that ever existed. And it makes me angry, incredibly angry that some creepy guy thought he had a right to disturb me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:14 PM
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Imagine being a women in that world and not being able to have a relationship ever because men don't think you're on their level for not meeting his requirements with regards to education, height, income or look. This is the world almost all women have lived in for centuries. The majority of women have to remake our bodies completely into these artificial dolls in order to be in relationships. Women literally starve themselves in order to meet male requirements for beauty. We spend incredible am…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:04 PM
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This isn't something men do to any substantial degree. You obviously don't spend a lot of time around your gender or you're living somewhere outside of the West. Almost every man I have encountered in North America and Western Europe has been a virtual child with the emotional range of a spoiled brat whose never developed any discipline or self-control. And my point that women really can't or want to see men express negative emotions still stands. As if men have ever been remotely tolerant of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:00 PM
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I despise him. I despise emotional women also. An adult should be able to control their feelings except under rare extreme circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:47 PM
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Newsflash. Plenty of women DO NOT complain about men not opening up and being emotionally available. There is a vast lot of women like myself who want nothing more than for our men to SHUT THE HELL UP about their feelings and be adults. We want husbands to be our partners not children of larger growth that we have to raise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:08 PM
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I have never actually meet a woman that cared about or discussed the size of a man's penis even the promiscuous ones who had over a 100 lovers. Now tongues and lips were sometimes discussed, but never the penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:45 PM
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This is probably one of the biggest problems I see in long term relationships and marriages today. Too many men never grew up. They are emotional babies who expect their girlfriends and wives to be their free therapists and a lot of women are sick of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:18 PM
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I encounter attractive men all the time and there's certainly plenty of involuntary physical attraction to them. Of course, because I am married I don't flirt with them or do anything that would be considered remotely compromising with them (i.e., being alone with them).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 07:11 PM
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LMFAO, Men's comments merit hysterical laughter that anyone could be so delusional about reality. Again, men + acknowledging reality = opposing magnets.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:12 PM
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So let me get this straight, you don't think that a woman has ever reacted negatively to a man opening up about his problems in an appropriate and mature way? I think it probably happens, but it's as rare full solar eclipses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:04 PM
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I think 99% of those toxic narratives about men opening up to women are just outright lies from toxic men trying to play victims. The remaining 1% are probably men who don't have a lot of maturity think exposing their "vulnerabilities" (i.e., weaknesses) will get their partners to act like their mothers and take care of everything for them. Is there a "right way" for men to express emotions. Of course, it's called basic honesty. It needs to be mixed with maturity and a man has to be willing to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:36 PM
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Acknowledge and accept that they have a disability and that will be unattractive to some women. Start actively looking for a woman who doesn't find their disability unattractive (fore example, many deaf women could care less about damaged vocal chords) or finds other aspects about the man attractive enough to compensate for the disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:29 PM
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Thinking women are a hivemind is why so many men are unwanted and alone. Women hate passive guys because no one wants a lump that does nothing and is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 04:12 PM
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Then those men should prepare to be forever alone and unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:19 PM
1

Absolutely not! If a child is not made from the eggs G_d gave me, it's not my child and I don't want anything to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:09 PM
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EDIT: I am surprised how many of you guys met your partner in real life. Only few have met exclusively on dating apps. Are guys shooting themselves in foot by increasingly relying on dating apps exclusively? Absolutely! Especially, if you are talking about the general dating apps that everyone can use. The only dating apps that I have noticed that actually work in terms of getting one person in contact with another person for a relationship and marriage are the specialized ones designed for reli…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:05 PM
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Likewise once a boy always a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:58 PM
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Most men are still considerably more privileged than the average or even upper middle class woman. Outside of male inmates, rape isn't a problem for the average man and the average man certainly doesn't worry that anytime he is alone with the average woman he will be raped. In fact, he is more likely to be raped by another average man than a woman he knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:17 PM
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What do you say to men like me? That you are not trying enough or you are chasing women of vastly greater value than you. You probably think the "average woman" looks like Emma Stone. You admit to being short, accept that this makes you a lot less sexually desirable to women that value physical beauty in men or women with a strong preference for having athletic or physically beautiful children, and look for women who value things other than physical beauty who have similar interests and hobbies …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:14 PM
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I wasn't a girl when I meet my significant other. I meet my first husband because we lived in the same area and were always standing in the same lines at the post office, the library, the dry cleaners, the market, etc. He acted like a gentlemen, despite being blue collar, and we became friends. I meet my second husband for the first time through a professional matchmaker many years ago and was reintroduced to him through friends acting as matchmakers after my first husband died.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:53 PM
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Why do you believe these men are not in the same league as the women they are demanding? Because these men are ugly, short trolls demanding women that could legitimately work as models (and sometimes have). They want women whose families are vastly more wealthy than them, more socially prominent, and the women have vastly better career prospects. Why do you think so lowly of men? Because so many men are entitled garbage and the ones that aren't refuse to correct the attitudes and behavior of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:31 PM
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Yeah, I should have mentioned how hard men try to destroy these third places were women and men can interact safely because they reduce men's opportunity to rape and abuse women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:26 PM
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I have twenty freaking years of working hard to find male relatives and friends wives. I also work at a university where I see young men of all cultures acting like entitled jackasses demanding women vastly beyond their means while ignoring or often abusing the good young women who could have made them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:09 PM
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The Denial is strong in this one. It sounds like it has been a long time (if ever) since you have talked with a living woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:05 PM
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And as the sister of several brothers and numerous male cousins, I can attest that the problem with matchmaking is that men refuse to marry the women that are their matches in terms of height, weight, intelligence, and social class and would rather spend all their time and money pursuing women vastly above them in all measurably categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:34 PM
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No, that's not a proper example. The proper example to your comment about how single mothers get money from the government and the father's of their children are required to pay child support is a single father abandoned by his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:30 PM
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Yes but when a woman doesnt and becomes a single mom, they are still supported by the government and the man is made to pay child support. A single father whose wife has left him with a dependent child is eligible for the exact same government support that a single mother gets and entitled to exact same child support from the non-custodial mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:09 PM
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Choose better? Can you say the same thing to a struggling single mom or a woman that got out of an abusive relationship, that she should have just choose better? Men tell women to choose better all the time. They shouldn't expect to hear different from us. Can you say with full confidence that you can tell who a person truly is? Absolutely. Anyone that I would marry and have a child with, yes I would study and investigate them enough to know who that person truly was.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:51 PM
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Well, plenty of women are okay without the other gender. The same can't be said for many men. Women do invest in third places like religious or community centers. Men refuse to participate in those third places because it more difficult to abuse women in those settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:57 PM
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The only real solution is for men to choose better. A man should either marry a woman that won't cheat or demand a paternity test before agreeing to have his name added to the birth certificate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:54 PM
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A not so great alternative is better than no alternative. Without cold approaching most men will just die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:10 PM
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I think once a man accepts legal responsibility for the child, they are legally responsible for support. If a man has reason to believe he should not be legally responsible, he needs to declare it immediately. In other words make a decision and live with the ramifications. Now I don't think a parents are responsible for illegitimate children being stuck with all the costs (or no legal right to contact with one's children) is just punishment for having children outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:51 PM
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I think cold approaching or close to it is the only way most men today will every meet a woman and possibly find a partner. Mainstream online dating is a cesspool, so many women avoid it (though there are some specialized sites that aren't as bad). Most men won't use matchmakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:41 PM
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This is complete bullshit. All women are not loved unconditionally. Most women are hated. Only beautiful and sexually available women receive unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:37 PM
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I watch how he behaves toward people who have less power than him. That's why restaurants are so good for first dates. Being a jerk to the waitstaff was an automatic disqualifier when I was dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:29 PM
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Because it's hard to find women only gyms where we can work out in peace and safety without the risk of men harassing, stalking, raping, and murdering us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:16 PM
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I think the women of the world are better off without those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:41 PM
1

LOL. That is so much Bullshit!. Men ditch the wives that supported them for years if she's 10 pounds overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:07 PM
1

This is nonsense. Most virgin single men are not virgins by choice. They are virgins because no women ever wanted them. Virgin women don't want the rejected and worthless. The few virgin men who are virgins by choice usually marry as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:57 PM
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I think if a man asks his wife for a DNA test, he should be ready to give her access to all his email and social media accounts, not have a private bank account or any money that she does not directly monitor, and be content with always informing her of his location confirmed by electronic tracking devices. If he would doubt her fidelity and require her to prove it, he should expect the same treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:20 PM
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Women have always had to transform ourselves into commodities in order to get partners. Welcome to the world the other half of humanity has had to live in since civilization began. And stop complaining, boys. Your gender created this. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:02 PM
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It's highly important to me. I am pro-choice, pro-civil rights, and I support a strong social safety net. When I was looking for a husband, these matters were discussed before I agreed to be introduced to any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:37 PM
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No, if someone wants to be celibate until marriage, their potential partners needs to decide if they want to adhere to that or end the possibility of the relationship. It the potential partner wants to have sex with other people he or she should be truthful about it. It is not ethical or honest to continue a relationship with a woman who is abstaining from sex until marriage while pursuing other women for sex. And lying is lying and should be grounds for ending the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:07 PM
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I would not date or marry a man that had paid for sex in a situation where he knew the sex workers were exploited. These situations are rare however in the landscape of sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:03 PM
1

You are about as much a feminist as a ham sandwich is kosher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:25 PM
1

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. As a privileged male, you have no idea the horror that life is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:11 PM
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He defines "unattractive women" as women who are ten pounds overweight or who have a few chickenpox scars or stretch marks. In other words, women who everyone else would describe as pretty, but not fashion model beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:02 PM
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I would say circumstances like yours are very different from the average male. You might have better luck with a professional matchmakers or specialized online dating sites geared toward people who share similar orientations. But there are plenty of men who can’t get a (in my case Bisexual and/or Transgender) woman just due to sheer statistics working against them. All the bisexual and transgender women I have encountered have similar problems finding partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:54 PM
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You are probably ignoring the women who would gladly marry you and chasing women who have higher social status, wealth, and are vastly better looking. Or you are only looking for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:11 PM
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The bar is way below the basement. If a man isn't a violent abuser, he's basically considered a catch in the modern dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:43 PM
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this is very easy to say when you're a woman and need to do literally nothing to attract the opposite sex. Bullshit! Women have to spend thousands of dollars and thousands of hours conforming to unreasonable beauty standards to attract the opposite sex. Women literally starve to appear attractive to the opposite sex. Men do not marry ugly women. Hell, men don't consider ugly women worthy of basic human decency. Men treat us worse than animals unless they need a victim to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:42 PM
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Absolutely, completely and utterly. Too many women are desperate for relationships. Women are literally dying because of health complications brought on by trying to lose weight or otherwise improve their looks. And the bar for being an acceptable man for plenty of women is don't be a goddamn rapist/abuser. That's it. If a man can manage this, there are women who probably deserve a lot better that will marry him. Any man that cannot get a woman has got to be the bottom run of humanity and so hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:35 PM
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If the alien was a Jew, and I were single again, I would date him. Of course, we would have to really work out the issue of children early.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:00 PM
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Guys who are constantly trying to move closer to me, get told to back off immediately and get lost within ten minutes if they keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:15 PM
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No, children are not easy to raise or pleasant to be around a lot of time and they require constant supervision. The standard work week is a lot less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:15 PM
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You guys know nothing about reality. It's really pathetic how little you know about the average woman's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:40 PM
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Women are hiring PIs because being raped and beaten by some guy they meet for coffee is expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:56 PM
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It's not anti-feminist. It's at the heart of feminism. A woman's natural face and body should be enough. Our natural bodies should be enough. But in order for a woman to be considered a person, too many societies force her to completely remake her appearance into artificial dolls. This needs to be destroyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:51 PM
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It sounds like you hang around with stupid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:25 PM
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Bullshit. I was a virgin on my wedding night. Plenty of women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:12 PM
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Basic hygiene is one thing. The artificial beauty image men consider necessary for a woman to be dateable is a lot more than just basic hygiene. It's expensive torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:11 PM
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Women have to pay for all the make-up, special clothing, hair care, body maintenance, etc., required to be attractive enough for men to date them. And a ton of guys on this board think women should be paying half the cost of dates on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:58 PM
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There are memes that claim Trump is a genius statesman with higher I.Q. than Einstein a ripped six pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:53 PM
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I don't think the majority of men have the looks or sexual stamina to do this just like the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:47 PM
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Men will compromise on their standards. ROFL! How many suns revolve around the Earth in your alternative universe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:34 PM
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In this economy, women don't have the time or money to waste with coffee dates. It's smarter and safer to vet thoroughly and only invest time and money in a guy that has potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:31 PM
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We don't want to waste our time on measly coffee dates with some dude from the market. Pay for dinner or stay in your mother's basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:30 PM
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Dating is dangerous. Women vet men to avoid being raped and killed. Dating is time-consuming and expensive. Women vet men because we don't want to waste time and money on bad relationships that leave of miserable, depressed, and broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:27 PM
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I am Orthodox Jewish woman. I never willingly allowed a man to touch me unless I was engaged to him. The rape attempts I have survived don't count as sins.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:07 PM
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There are millions of men who love thick women. You do not have to starve yourself in order to be successful in dating. You don't have to do anything to your body except not be obese and not be anorexic level skinny. There are definitely not millions of men who love thick women. There are men who will fuck thick women if they can't get anyone else, but they treat those women like trash. I have watched happen to hundreds of thick women for decades. And yes women have to starve themselves in order…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:58 PM
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You probably think Taylor Swift doesn't wear make-up. The average man has no idea what a normal woman looks like without make-up. When average men see women without make-up they usually call us bull-dykes or say we are too repulsive to even look at, let alone be seen in public with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:51 PM
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Complete bullshit. The only reason I have every rejected a marriage proposal from a man was because he was immoral or a criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:47 PM
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Dating is not easier for straight women. Dating is hell for straight women. Dating is starvation and misery. It's having to completely remake our bodies through literal torture in order to be appealing to men. It's having to live our lives in a costume of paint and expensive torturous clothing because men do not like normal, natural women. Dating is living with a target on our backs because so many men are rapists and abusers. And always having to worry if the man we are with is going to turn on…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:30 PM
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Most men aren't looking for love. They are looking for a hole to fuck. The sooner women realize this, the less frustrated they'll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:55 PM
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For women who hold the belief (understandably, in many cases) that most men are harmful, misogynistic, or generally not safe to be around—how do you reconcile that belief with continuing to date men, befriend them, or regularly engage with them socially? Honestly, a lot times, it's just the fact that we all have to live around each other on planet Earth. Of course, I do prefer all female environments and put considerable effort into arranging my life where I don't have to spend much time around …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:54 PM
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How are nerd guys losers and nerd girls are not loser and above them? Yes, that's what they are doing - pursuing women of similar appearance and social status - the nerd girls. Nerd women are not of similar appearance to nerd men. Nerd women still work on our appearances. We have to look good for survival because if we don't conform to the current beauty culture our lives drop to an even worse hell. Nerd guys don't. Getting nerd guys to practice basic hygiene is a Herculean task.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:29 PM
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They are not desirable by men who might be their equals. The entourages of nerd guys are beneath them (and those losers secretly know it, but don't want to admit reality.) The entourages of nerd guys could all have girlfriends if they pursued women of similar appearance and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:48 PM
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Here's a good place to begin. https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics Overwhelmingly the perpetuators of sexual violence against women are men. Plenty of women are raped by men they know and trusted. https://wearawhitefeather.wordpress.com/survivors/rape-culture-statistics/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-third-of-male-university-students-say-they-would-rape-a-woman-if-there-no-were-no-consequences-9978052.html This is the hell world women have to live in and make dating choices in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:44 PM
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Maybe you are so wrapped up in feminist ideology that you don’t understand reality. I am wrapped up in reality. The vast majority of men aren’t rapists. Nor are the vast majority of men abusers. Only because of lack of access to women. Maybe go touch grass and do some critical thinking. Look at rape convictions and abuse statistics…. The vast majority of men are not committing these crimes. Once again, for the vast majority of men you claim aren't committing these crimes, it's only because of la…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:29 PM
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You sound like someone so trapped in the manosphere that you refuse to deal with reality. The reason so many men are alone is that men refuse to take responsibility and correct their evil, anti-social behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:55 PM
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Denial is strong in this one. All men have to do to get a good quality women is not be a rapist/abuser and treat a woman with respect. Yet, most men absolutely refuse to do this. Men are only alone because they refuse to not harm women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:22 PM
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Men have never been punished for trying to be decent. Men have been punished for wanting to rape and abuse women and when caught trying to gaslight everyone that their horrible actions were just a "joke" and flirting behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 10:38 PM
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It is definitely a big red flag. A son that doesn't fulfill his responsibilities to his parents will not fulfill his responsibilities to his wife and children. I don't see how anyone cannot understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 07:49 PM
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Women get horribly attacked rejecting ugly men. Sometimes women get killed for rejecting ugly men. And we always have assholes harassing us for rejecting ugly men. The rest of society needs to tell these repulsive men and their enablers to shut up, that they are disgustingly ugly trolls that should be content with their lot and either leave women alone or accept a woman of equal hideousness as a partner because they doesn't deserve anyone better. Social shunning if not legal constraints should b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:47 PM
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Then stop whining about women not wanting unattractive (short, wimpy, bald, micro penis, fat etc.) men and advocate that ugly men deserve to be treated as cruelly as ugly women. If it's okay to reject women because of physical appearance, it's should be okay to reject a man for physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:07 PM
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What actually happened is that women used to snitch on each other profusely. The women who snitched on each other soon found themselves exiled from other women and quickly victimized by having their own real or manufactured sexual exploits made public knowledge. Lmao, not when everyone knows everyone. You may sneak out of your neighborhood, but wherever you meetup there will be people and someone who is a friend of a friend of your husband will recognize you. It took more secrecy and maneuvering…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:13 PM
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So we agree that older women did the policing? Good. No, Older woman did some of the "policing", but certainly not all. And among the Christians were honor killers sometimes happened, older women or most other women in general were never involved in that. It was always done by men. And what is reputation tied to? Lack of known sexual promiscuity. So let's not split hairs here. There are plenty of ways sexual activity and sexual promiscuity can be hidden. Older female relatives cared about sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:35 PM
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If you can't distinguish between romantic interest and creepy behavior, that's probably a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:50 PM
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I care a great deal about the feelings of the few good, moral men I know. But I don't care about the feelings of evil people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:42 PM
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Too many men are guilty for aiding, abetting, and applauding the evil actions of a few is more precise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:39 PM
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An anonymous donor from a sperm bank is preferable to a bad father. I challenge you to find an abused child that would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:32 PM
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All the time. Male violence against women is rarely punished and never to the full extent that it should be. When women act to protect themselves, even in such mild ways as advising other women to avoid creepy guys, misogynists' begin screaming that all men are being punished (i.e., being hampered in finding victims is a punishment for men apparently) and it's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 08:29 PM
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No, women (mothers) policed other women (theirs and others' daughters). When it worked, it worked great. I come out of two very radiational cultures (Jewish and Serbian Orthodox Christians). That isn't how it worked (and currently works now) at all. Older female relatives police reputations, but many would and did happily help their daughters have all sorts of sexual fun outside of marriage (because marriage is a business arrangement not a matter of love or desire). And it never worked well. Hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:17 PM
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No, only causes that are just and moral regardless of whether they benefit me or not. Rewarding men for being rapists and murderers is evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:06 PM
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No, empathy should be based in moral reality. My empathy is only given to causes that have moral merit. Men don't deserve an ounce of empathy for problems that are entirely the result of their own evil actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:59 PM
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Women will just live by themselves with their children or form kinship networks with other women. We can do that and still have a functional society. Men are the ones that that are breaking down when they have to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:47 PM
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This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. And no woman should ever give a damn about a male snowflake's fweelings until these four lines are universally acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:26 PM
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Most men will die alone under those conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:24 PM
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In my culture (Sephardic Jew), it's quite common to live with your parents to save money on rent and also to help out around the house when necessary, so I would find a man living with his parents a perfectly natural situation. In fact, if he didn't live with them I would want to know why before considering dating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:56 PM
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Bullshit. That's what men say when they are trying to virtue signal. That's not how men act.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:34 PM
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In shape for many body types is not the emaciated thinness that the majority of men want. The only time a woman in my family was less than a size 14 was one great aunt right after she was liberated from Auschwitz (and even then she had a lot more flesh on her than most of her fellow inmates). Many women alive today had ancestors who survived severe famine and war because their bodies could horde calories and live off of tiny amounts of food. Being thin for someone like that means an inhuman prog…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:20 PM
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That's because it's so damn easy for a man not to be seen as a creep. Of course, we undervalue it. It's like worrying that vampires will attack you. No man other than a want-a-be rapist actually has to worry about being perceived as a creep. All a man has to do is be polite, don't be sexually acting toward a woman that's not his wife, and don't threaten (or physically try) to rape a woman. It's ridiculous how many men refuse to rise to these basic standards, scream like babies about how impossib…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:05 PM
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Over two decades of observing men and their dating practices. I am actively involved in matchmaking in my community and I know men are the problem, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:45 PM
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Men in general don't believe anything women says because they don't want to admit how much they hate women for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:42 PM
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Absolute misogynistic denial. Female nerds are the most hated and abused women. We are treated like freaks by normal men. Nerd guys are even worse and see us as victims to take out their frustrations over not being able to fuck cheerleaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:39 PM
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Only when male incels start following that advice. The standards for what males consider "not fat" is basically a living skeleton. Women should not tortured by starvation in order to accepted. If a man can't love a fat woman, he's not capable of loving any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:34 PM
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Being in stem and main stream life for multiple decades, I guarantee those nerd guys are all vastly less attractive than the nerd women. Meanwhile the guys who are similar to her in appearance and social skills (i.e., the men who might possibly be able to give her an orgasm) are chasing cheerleaders (or their adult equivalencies).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:29 PM
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Well, at least you are honest. However, you are hypocrite if you complain and whine about attractive women not wanting you. Nerdy guys are unattractive and tolerated only if the money is worth it to conventionally pretty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:24 PM
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Women are taught about being nice to their male partners or just men in general all our damn lives. It's something we have to unlearn in order to have healthy relationships because men do not value niceness. Men only value what they have to work to achieve. Being nice to a man only leads to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:38 PM
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No, we female nerds are not desirable unless we also highly conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:16 PM
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That would be life as usual for me and too a certain degree it's how I prefer it. Looks fade or can be ruined with one car crash or horse kick, personality and character are more integral to who a person. Valuing personality is valuing the mind, heart and soul rather than just the physical container.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:14 PM
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If some men are not getting dates, it's because those men are chasing women who are vastly above them in terms of appearance and socials status. Men who actually pursue women their age of similar physical appearance and social status aren't having problems. They are all either married or dating with no interest in getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:10 PM
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Any women who follows this is an idiot and she will only be victimized by men. Now, of course, men like women like this. Too many men want someone they can exploit and abuse. Women caring about how much money a man has and whether he pays for dates or not, is a sign that she is intelligent, has respect for herself, and understands capitalism and the true nature of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:41 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:48 PM
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I would say that this is mostly true. The "awkward, introverted non-charismatic types" tend to be creepy and obsessed with sex. Of course, they will always claim it's because they can't get sex and refuse to acknowledge the reality that they can't get sex because of their behavior and refuse to work on changing what makes them so repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:22 PM
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You seem to contradicting yourself unless I’m not understanding. You’re saying men who want marriages are extremely rare, but also men wanting relationships are also more common than women? My position is that about half of young women do not want a relationship while a larger portion of men do want relationships. You're grossly misunderstanding. My position is that most young women do want marriage. Real marriages where they are loved and respected, Most men don't want marriage. They want sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:03 PM
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I think if most men want a relationship and a large portion of women don’t, it should be on the women to put themselves “on the market” instead of making men go through unnecessary rejection and wasted time/energy You sound like one of those incels who hasn't got the courage to approach women. What you are suggesting is a really illogical way of looking at the situation. If a large portion of women don't want relationships (and there is no evidence that is the case), why the hell would we bother…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:41 PM
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If you see dating men as more of a “risk”than an opportunity/reward, why should men come up to you to begin with? For the good ones, the reason why is they want a good marriage and a family. Unfortunately, these men are extremely rare. Most men (and women) are on track to die alone under the status quo anyways While there are more people than every before, plenty of people are still getting married. Also, plenty of the people still single aren't happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:19 PM
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No, under the status quo more men have a chance at not dying alone because they have the opportunity to convince a woman to risk dating them. Change this system and most men will die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:36 PM
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The welfare state with all of its regulations and difficulties is more reliable than most men. And it is less abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:45 PM
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Some women don't believe men should have sex outside marriage. Therefore, we find it reassuring that some other women still agree with us or at least have high enough standards that it reduces the number of men "getting laid."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:23 PM
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Poor fathers get the same welfare benefits as poor mothers. While private charity has more leeway in choosing clients, the government system is completely gender blind. And there are stringent rules on how much property and financial resources welfare recipients can keep and how much they are able to work if they are lucky enough to get a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:26 PM
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Bullshit. Welfare at least in the United States is not easy to get and has a lot of rules and regulations that must be adhered to very rigidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:03 PM
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Men don't love women purely and unconditionally. Most men just purely and unconditionally want to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:37 AM
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Because the welfare state is more reliable than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:35 PM
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When you hear a man say he's been falsely accused, do you just assume he did something screwed up and is trying to cover it up? Yes, experience has taught me that criminals and psychopaths will always claim they were falsely accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:34 PM
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Deliriously happily married to my late husband for 5 years. Currently going on nearly 3 years with my second husband, we are reasonably happy. I agree with a lot of what attendquoi's said. Many of the men here are horribly unsocialized, and what's worse refuse to change this, so I can't imagine how they expect to meet anyone or be accepted. Too many mean are just spoiled brats who lack all empathy. It's probably good that they are alone as they would only abuse their partners. The majority of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:02 PM
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In real world situations were polygamy occurs it is usually because the one man who is being shared has more resources, even if they are divided among several families, than other men in the community even if those men are only sharing resources with one women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:38 PM
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Personal experience? Where at you guys pulling this info from? The largest muscle in their body. Hint: it's not their biceps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:33 PM
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Positive attention. (i.e., someone actually treating them like human beings), not just creeps who want to abuse them. Positive attention or even being treated with basic decency is incredibly rare in an unattractive woman's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:15 PM
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Two relationships is more than plenty of women get in their lives. The serial killer/abuser will have waaaay better results just looking at the numbers. And the numbers are all that matters. The quality of the women is irrelevant. The numbers mean nothing especially when the serial/killer abuser doesn't have physical access to any of those women. The incel could still pull vastly higher numbers if he only tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:32 PM
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Diane Zamora was not unattractive when she was younger. She wasn't fashion model beautiful, but she was everyday, normal pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:29 PM
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No, the boring and unremarkable not criminal will have better numbers and more opportunities to act on those numbers than the serial killer/abuser, IF only he will act on those numbers and try to connect with women. The serial killer/abuser gets a lot of attention from mentally damaged women. The boring and unremarkable not criminal guy has access to an incredible amount of boring and unremarkable not criminal women out in the real world, if only he is willing to put aside his fashion model fant…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:19 PM
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Honest question: do you really believe the only difference between friendship and a relationship is sex? I believe the only difference between friendship and marriage is sex, yes. The dynamics of a relationship where a man and woman have sex without marriage is not something I have ever really thought about, but upon consideration, I suppose it is quite a similar situation. Or are you so deep in your misandry that you assume sex is all a man could ever want from a woman? I am not a misandrist. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:15 PM
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Yep, but she was pretty, so some man adored her. I'm sure he thought she as just "innocent and misunderstood."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:03 PM
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Plenty of men care quite a lot about moral reputation, social status, and financial status when it comes to marriage. Of course, if the women is hot enough (like top 1 %) she has more leverage in overcoming deficiencies in the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:01 PM
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I would take your point if criminals and abusers didn't get better results than incels that are neither criminals nor abusers. The serial killers and abusers usually have social clot or status that the incels don't have and are often more sexually attractive. This can often offset the negative traits of such men in psychologically damaged women. Also, men who are already in prison are often pursued because women see them as "safe". They are locked up. Whereas, the incel down the street is cable …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:57 PM
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Female criminals have their fans also. I've known men who married war criminals because hot women with guns appealed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:49 PM
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Curious how none of those women with fucked up sexuality is looking at an Incel and say "yeah that does it for me" Actually there are plenty of women who would probably date/marry incels, if the incels made any effort to act like human beings. There are plenty of unattractive women who would be glad for positive male attention from anyone who doesn't demean or degrade them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:47 PM
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No, I am not. Average men get plenty of dates if they are willing to not be abusive rapists. Unattractive and absolutely hideously ugly men get plenty of dates if they are willing to be nice to women. That's it. The bar for men being considered undate-able is in hell. Women date and marry unattractive and hideously ugly men all the time. Of course, I am referring to average women, not fashion models.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:17 PM
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Every single woman has inherent biological value due to the fact that they are women. If most men actually believe this, women wouldn't have so many problems. The reality is only beautiful women have value to men. Unattractive women are treated lower than animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:07 PM
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No, the guy is frustrated he cannot get the women he wants as a status fuck. It's laughably easy for a man to get a romantic relationship if he is willing to date a woman of similar appearance and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:00 PM
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That has not been my experience. Women are rarely "triggered" by a man saying he would like to marry her unless the man is so beneath her in status that it would be an insult to suggest a marriage between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:57 PM
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The type of guys who "pine" for a relationship with women and put them on a pedestal are the type that fixate on women who are way too above them in terms of looks and social status. They ignore or nastily insult all the women similar to them who would be glad to have a relationship and/or marriage with these guys. In sort, these guys volunteer for their own loneliness. Whining about the "friendzone" is just their cope for why they can't get their fantasizes fulfilled with no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:55 PM
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I think it's more: How dare that woman have the audacity not to have sex with me after she knew I wanted to use her body!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:43 PM
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Being in the friendzone is not the same as being friends with a woman. Only in the mind of men who view woman as sexual outlets not people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:40 PM
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Talk to some good women. We will be glad to tell you how miserable our lack of romantic experiences have been. Men ignore us unless they want to insult and demean someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:38 PM
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And like men absolutely never lead women on for their own benefit? Get real. People of either gender will lead other people on for their own benefit. The problem is how often men go out of their way to chase the women who obviously will do this while deliberating ignoring and/or insulting good women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:16 AM
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How does one get someone to have romantic feeling for us? And why is it at familiarity is such a bar to romantic attraction? We're told over and over again that judging by lust for their bodies is shallow and wrong. Fair enough. But when we try to get to know someone first we're told that we're just pretending to be their friend in order to get into their pants. Do you see the contradiction here? I don't see any contradiction. It's very easy. Ask her to marry you and don't try to get into her pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:13 AM
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Whenever I hear a man complain about being in the friendzone, I know it means he only sees women as sex objects and avoid him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:07 AM
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Men can build there own damn networks themselves just as women have had to do. The rest of society (i.e., women) shouldn't have do everything for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:07 PM
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Then you need to get out of your mother's basement, touch grass, and met people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:46 PM
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None of this will get more men dating because men do not want to date the women available. There is no "male loneliness epidemic." There is a "male preferring to fantasize about Onlyfans models than talk to women in real life epidemic."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:33 PM
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It's becoming common because incel men want to create the idea of lonely, women who should have chosen them (i.e., wasted their lives on a loser) instead of enjoying their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:29 PM
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No, that is the truth. You are delusional or more likely trying to deny reality like the typical misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:17 PM
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Bullshit! Complete and utter bullshit! The average man completely ignores the average woman. Tip: Taylor Swift and Emma Stone and all the other beauties men lust after are not average looking women. They are the top !%. Nicola Coughlan is similar in body size to the average woman though she has much better skin, hair and facial structure because she able to afford the best treatments and of course a stylist and large budget to provide her with the best possible clothing for her public appearance…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:16 PM
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Bullshit! I know hundreds of men who met their wives through dating aps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:03 PM
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Especially in todays society that pushes that you are harassing if you cold approach. Not true. Today's society pushes that it's harassment if a man cold approaches like a raping creep, Men who approach politely and respectfully without threatening violence or insinuating that their only interest is using a woman for sex are not accused of harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:02 PM
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Testosterone isn't heroin. Men who want to practice self-control seem to handle it just fine. And I've meet plenty of men, regrettably not as many of the current generation, who wouldn't dream of cheating on their wives or breaking vows of celibacy they have voluntarily taken. It's only weak men who have such great problems keeping their sex drives under control like they do any other impulses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:58 PM
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Where are we supposed to ask for dates other than dating apps? Approaching at hobby groups? Trying dating apps that are more specialized to your race, religion, ethnicity or interests would be a good start. Or trying honest approaches on common dating aps and spending time getting to know someone rather than sending out tons of messages to every random women available. Approaching at a hobby group is absolutely a good idea as you would have more in common with that person than a random individua…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:58 PM
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Based on that response, I think we can all guess the causes of poster's romantic failure,
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:52 PM
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You are treating very minor and common inconveniences in dating as major problems and setbacks. Two approaches and online problems. In dating that's nothing. Almost everyone experiences that many rejections. Being upset over that is definitely crying and whining level behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:50 PM
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Too many years of observing male behavior. The overwhelming majority of men chase a small subset of women who are model like, highly attractive and usually upper class. Mean while all around those men are thousands of good women that share a lot in common with those men whose existence they don't even acknowledge, let along attempt to treat decently. And most men refuse to make any effort to attract a woman. They won't try to talk politely to women or ask for dates. There are dating coaches out …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:43 PM
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Tried first approach, failed miserably. Tried second approach, friendzoned. Tried online dating, got no woman matches but some men try to communicate even tho i only set for ONLY WOMEN. Cry me a a river. You have to stop whining and keep trying if you want to find a partner. I went on vastly more dates and interviews for matrimonial purposes before marrying my late husband and even more to eventually find my second husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:33 PM
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Bullshit! Men have thousands of options. They just refuse to date the women who would be interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:28 PM
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Sex research is difficult though. Most people do not easily answer questions about their sex with truthful answers. I certainly believe a lot of women are conditioned not to acknowledge their desires and don't give accurate information for those studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:26 PM
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This is so much bullshit, it could fertilize half the Midwest. There is nothing idealistic about the opportunity to fuck and that's what most men love about women. You guys, don't try to "spiritually bond" with us. You guys want to get laid and prioritize that above everything else. Most men don't care about a woman's character, her personality, or her intellect. Her physical appearance is important, but we all know most men will have sex with women they don't consider attractive enough to appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:00 PM
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What the fuck was wrong with some guy's upbringings that they ended up thinking they've got a right to never have anyone find their behaviour less than ideal? They didn't get any upbringings is the problem. I think most of these creepy guys were their mother's "little darling" and are looking for a woman that will view them the same way plus have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:54 PM
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And women aren’t as horny as men, so we don’t want you as much as you want us I disagree. I think women have just as much desire for sex as men, we just have enough self-control not to act creepy and enough common sense to know when sex with another person is a bad idea and masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:52 PM
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Angst-ridden single men are creating themselves. Why not go to a singles event, ask friends who they know who is single, make connections via interest groups.. That would require these men make an effort. They refuse to do that. They expect to be handed virgin super models who fuck like porn stars and have giant trust funds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:49 PM
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The only "pathways" are those that involve abusing women. Those pathways should be shut down for the good of humanity. I believe you’re a woman, so id like you to imagine you were invisible to every single male you come across both online and in person For years on end. As a unattractive woman and a minority that has been my fate my entire life except for those occasions when men thought because I wasn't beautiful I would be a good target for rape or other sadism. Being unattractive meant I had …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:51 PM
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For me it's the problem of how audio visual porn is produced. A lot of women are exploited in making video porn. And even if the actors are not exploited, it's still people engaging in non-marital sex which I consider immoral behavior. With written erotica this isn't an issue. Words can describe sex, but the letters aren't actually performing sexual acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:43 PM
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There is a measure of shame levied against men for overtly acting or speaking of their sexual desire, yet the same vocalization/displays of desire from women is lionized. I disagree with your idea that vocalization/displays of desire from women are lionized. Normal female desire is demonized and women are easily considered promiscuous and therefore damaged and worthless for expressing their desire. Male sexuality is viewed as natural and is only thought of as offensive (if and this is a big if) …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:23 PM
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I worked at a summer camp years ago. One of the male counselors was a jerk who decided to expose his body to a bunch of the female counselors. This was not an accident. He walked in front of the television and whipped off his towel with an elaborate flourish. From that moment forward his nickname was "Little Dick" and yes, we mercilessly mocked him for having a small penis the entire summer until he quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:00 PM
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Cheap makeup makes women look cheap and it can destroy the skin. I think you must be living a lavish lifestyle and you are applying this to average women for some women and forgot what women actually realistically spend lol. Us men have to spend a good amount of money aswell to look nice and also have a pretty decent career and provide for you and on top of it we have to approach so we have it harder. Doesnt matter why we have to approach and its kinda messed up that you think of men who cant as…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 04:02 PM
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Being a woman means spending hours and thousands of dollars of money painfully remaking our appearances into artificial ideas of beauty in order to attract a partner. Nothing is "handed" to women. We pay for it in blood and sweat. All a man has to do is shower. And if a man can't muster the courage to approach a woman, he doesn't deserve the company of a woman. Approaching is actually part of the vetting process that women use to weed out unworthy cowards. No woman wants a man like that for a pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:13 PM
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Take your business card, write Lunch? Or Dinner Sometime? at the top as neatly as possible and ask a waiter to give it to her on a tray. I always thought this was a cool move. One of my cousins met her husband this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:28 PM
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Exactly. But I don't think most men do not understand. I think they don't care. Women are just objects they use and not a human being that they would value or love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:44 PM
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No, you don't have to work harder unless you are only approaching women vastly out of your league. In which case, yeah, your going to be brutally rejected, but what did you expect bother a woman vastly above you in looks and social status. All a man needs to approach is a recent shower and a thimble full of courage. Sadly, that is lacking in too many men now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:42 PM
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How? Strongest people I know are the ones with the strength to be kind while also setting boundaries and having the sense of self to maintain their personality. Bully apologist always throw this platitude out to abused people trying to whitewash the reality of evil. Reality is what doesn't kill someone physically can kill them mentally.; For every person strong enough to be all forgiving and kind, a hundred more are ground and destroyed. Evil shouldn't be excused or forgiven. It should be destro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:23 AM
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I feel as if the basis for this sub is that women generally desire men less than men desire women. More honestly the basis for this sub is that the majority of women and especially the highly desirable women don't desire low quality and especially incel men. go to concerts/music festivals and dance check out bars/breweries/restaurants and enjoy some tasty food and beverages try new recipes and hi-five each other if we succeed go on bike rides and hikes go for a walk along the block and hold hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:15 AM
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Sometimes you have to be a bad person to survive the other bad people. The world's never gonna be perfect, so men should stop expecting women to be perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:05 AM
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The reason "we're in the position we're in now" is men being assholes. If you want anything to change for the better, change male behavior for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:33 PM
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I think it's a good thing if women's cheating rates caught up with men's cheating rate. What's the old American saying, sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. In an ideal world, both genders would be faithful to their partners. But we don't live in an ideal world, so it's better if women have the same opportunities as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:14 PM
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This is not a random sample of women, but of the rape victims I have worked with in the United States many of them had been gang-raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:38 PM
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Plenty of women are well aware of how high the rates of cheating are. Why do you think we don't trust you guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:18 PM
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I think it's the most natural, normal thing in the world to join hobby groups or meetups with the intent to look for partner. Searching among people that share the same interest seems like the most logical thing in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:24 PM
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Eh. I’m sure I’m an exception, but I just started hearing so much about how women prefer/love tall guys and all of that, and me being 5’7, decided to just not date. Most of the people saying this are short guys are jerks. They claim they can't get dates because they are short when it's really because they are hateful and abusive toward women. Plenty of short guys get dates and wives if they treat women well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:05 PM
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Thank you for being honest about what male values really are unlike most of your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:43 PM
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Absolutely, if he doesn't support feminism he is lying about supporting gender equality. It's not a red flag. It's an absolute disqualifier, deal breaker, how ever you want to describe a quality that makes a man unsuitable as a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:07 PM
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Ditto
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:04 PM
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If I were single again, the behavior of online incels would absolutely 1001% make me less willing to take a chance on a virgin man. And I am highly religious and did exclude men who had pre-marital sex when I was searching for a husband the first time. I would say the online incels are the biggest reason a lot of virgin women and women who do have pre-marital sex are now more willing to give a chance to a man who has sexual experience or a past that involved pre-marital sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:22 PM
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Because smart women know that vibrators can't get them pregnant. Pregnancy is dangerous and life-changing and getting an abortion is difficult if not impossible in some places; therefore, women have to be careful about the situations in which they take the risk of getting pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:44 PM
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That's a cannot do. I'm married and believe in monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:25 PM
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Ever hear of Ida Lovelace? Men didn't build anything alone though men have tried their best to suppress women's achievements. Plenty of woman worked to create this world and we are usually the ones that maintain it while men tear everything to hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:24 PM
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More male delusions supporting their unearned entitlement mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:04 PM
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Absolutely, and once we are in engaged depending on how it's done we if we break up we would need a religious court divorce in order to marry someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:58 PM
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This happens to millions of women also.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:50 PM
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No, I don't think the over inflate the importance of financial success in order to attract a "High value woman." The problem is they under inflate what is financial success and how well they are doing in terms of that. Men with this type of thinking define "High value woman" as model beautiful, sexually chaste, socially intelligent, and willing to devote massive amounts of time and attention to their husband and family. These women do not marry middle class men. They do not marry average men. At…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:19 PM
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If you were to meet this guy and the two of you hit it off, and you would think of going on a date with him, how would you actually want him to handle it? When I was searching for a husband, I would have loved to have meet and gone out with a guy like this. I expect it would be a normal date. We would go somewhere public and talk or meet at friends' house and talk. How do you want him to handle emotions as they progress through the relationship? Like an adult. How do you want him to talk to you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:35 PM
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There's plenty of boring, awkward, and anxious woman out there. There's also women who don't mind helping guys improve as long as they reassure the man won't leave them if they help him out and insecure women who want a guy whose awkward and anxious because they consider him safe.. Keep searching and you will find your match.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:10 PM
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Dating those guys actually wasn't awful. They were better men in their dating relationships than the typical, average nice guy. And they were a real revelation to me about the depravity of many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:14 PM
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If so many women weren't feed a pack of lies about the "decency" of men, we might actually have matriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:10 PM
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No, it's because those guys managed to convey that they were the lesser of evils compared to the other men available which should tell you and rest of the world how horrible quality of men available to those women was.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:08 PM
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If the world was fair men would have to do as much to appeal to women as we have to do to appeal to them and do as much to maintain relationships as women do. I think your friends were just being kind to you when they say that you go for women as ugly as yourself. No one likes to tell their friends, their friend that he is ugly. Or you may need to vastly work on your social skills. Just having similar appearance is not going to help you, if you treat the woman badly. Being clean will get you a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:05 PM
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Male entitlement fantasy Your delusions are amazing, truly pathetic coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:01 PM
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If that was important to women that men consider them sluts and would stop them from behaviors considered slutty, then why wouldn't it stop those behaviors and only stop them from approaching? Makes no sense. I've overhead too many men talk about women who approach. Slut and horny bitch are the only words they use for those women. And I've seen the violence in those men's too common actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:17 PM
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When women approach it justifies in men's mind and too often in the eyes of the law whatever violence men want to do to here. If that was important to women that men consider them sluts and would stop them from behaviors considered slutty, then why wouldn't it stop those behaviors and only stop them from approaching? Makes no sense. Well, for the women who engage in "slutty" behavior it's not important to them. Incidentally those women do approach men all the time just only the men they consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:38 PM
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Wow those behaviours are wild! So men shouldn't act like immature teenager and avoid being led by their ego Sadly that behavior is fairly standard for American men (particularly of the Southern kind) where woman are concerned. Cruelty is their idea of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:27 PM
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And no, that's not why women don't approach. They don't approach because they don't need to. It's easy to verify. First of all, men don't consider them sluts. As a woman I think that is utter garbage. I have overhead enough male conversation about women who approach to know what men feel. Women who approach are the trash they use and brutalize. A woman who approaches is in the mind of many men a woman who is giving him permission to penetrate her in every orifice. And in many parts of the world …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:32 PM
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Look for women that aren't fashion model pretty. This is where be nice and be respectful are absolutely critical. Less than attractive women know they aren't pretty because we've been treated like garbage all our lives. We grew up with being teased. Pretending to like the ugly girl as a set up for humiliating her is classic teenage bully stuff. We've had a lot of guys try scam us. We've had a lot of guys try to date us because they think we are easy marks for sex because we should be flattered t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:12 PM
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I wouldn't marry a woman that was pretty because I wouldn't want a woman to live a life of torture conforming to the current beauty standards. I would want her to be healthy and comfortable. I wouldn't expect a woman to work and maintain a house. I would give her space and privacy,a room of her own, and respect her wishes for time alone and freedom. And I would never give her any reason to distrust me by comparing her to other women or being alone with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:56 PM
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The universal definition of a prostitute has always been someone who does sex for money or material products of value like money. OnlyFans produce erotic content sometimes. Other times they may just be displaying their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:09 PM
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Bullies target vulnerable women. The virgins are alone for other reasons The involuntary ones it's because they are horrible people, actually worse than the "bullies" and no woman wants a man like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:04 PM
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My fair feminist share would have been the guy paying half the cost of the clothing, accessories, beauty products and beauty treatments, etc., necessary for me project the image he wants for the date plus paying money to compensate for the time I could have been doing something that actually gave me pleasure or generated income.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:59 PM
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LOL, so, all of the "bad boys" you encounter were all actually gentlemen? Not all the "bad boys" by any means, but a higher ratio of the "bad boys" were decent men in comparison to the average typical, nice men I encountered. Sounds like a bunch of posers who knew how to get women like you interested in them. I wish. I was questioned by too many federal agencies to realize they weren't posers. That was always point where I knew I had to end my association with the guy because I realized what he …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:56 PM
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Sure right. Decent men are quickly snatched off the market by decent woman and plenty of indecent woman also. Your situation is probably that you chase hot women and ignore the nice woman. Y’all don’t like us anyway. That's usually a sign that you need to improve yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:50 PM
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The misguided belief that men who are considered respectable, honorable, and decent actually were that. I dated some bad guys also and found a higher ratio of good men among their lot than among the typical men considered respectable and law-abiding .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:47 PM
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Victorian London had 2 million people and 80,000 prostitutes though some historians do have issue with this calculations. And technically OnlyFans isn't prostitution. The women are producing pornography for their clients. I say, good for them. They are smarter than the women who give away nudes for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:41 PM
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Cheating hands down. That is something he choose to do after marrying me. The stuff in the past may be bad, but a lot things are forgivable if he doesn't show any indicators of wanting to do those things again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:12 PM
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It's not unearned entitlement when you actually are superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:21 PM
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A hundred or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:20 PM
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Not so sure about that. We currently have an epidemic of whores. Millions of women selling themselves on OnlyFans, Seeking arrangements, sugaring websites or just using Tinder to help themselves to an STD. That was something we did not see in the past. I'm laughing as a read your reply. Prostitution is lower than it ever has been in the Western world. It's often cited that in Victorian Era London 1 in every 65 buildings was a brothel. Also, in that time period children were regularly sold in bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:15 PM
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Men aren’t claiming that women’s personality gives them boners like women are. The difference is that more men find more women attractive than the other way around. Plenty of women admit they love their husbands despite how ugly he looks. And men do not find more women attractive than the other way around. Men just don't notice unattractive women, probably because they don't consider us human. Paying bills is useful in getting you used and cheated on, not making a woman wet like you’re pretendin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:02 PM
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By that same token, you can not then criticize men who treat women as poorly as women have treated them Oh, I absolute am entitled to do this. Men have earned though their evil behavior the treatment they get from women. If anything is true, is that most men deserve far worse. If a woman chooses to talk poorly about someone she is not attracted to, you don't get to cry mysoginy because someone she deemed less than makes a mean comment back at her I get to laugh in his face and tell him it's no w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:54 PM
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The two are combined in American cultural history. A lot of racism, definitely the extreme violence and hatred directed at African-American men and boys, was centered around fears of them having sex with white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:41 PM
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Since when has thinking about a woman's personality caused a man get an erection? You shouldn't disparage financial providers. Paying bills is often the only positive qualities many men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:37 PM
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Women don't admit this collectively Women talk about it all the time among ourselves. Women have varying opinions. There is no great collective hive mind. "Pleasant enough personality" is just code for allowing her to cheat on him with the men who "offer sexual desirability" Only in the minds of deluded misogynists. Plenty of beautiful women marry and love ugly men, but the reverse almost never occurs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:33 PM
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Women care about personality considerably more than men, but it's not the only thing we care about. A good-looking man with a terrible personality is more likely to be rejected by a woman than a good-looking woman with a terrible personality being rejected by a man. I've watched doctor's marry drug addicted prostitutes and a millionaire marry a war criminal. I have never seen a woman without severe mental health problems do anything similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:33 PM
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In other words, character doesn't matter as long as the level of physical attraction offsets whatever red flags you choose to ignore. Not for me, but there are some women who certainly do feel this way. And there are plenty more men who demonstrate that if a woman is physically attractive enough a man will overlook incredible red flags and absolute criminal behavior by her. Let me ask you this; If you're implying that one man deserves better treatment because he is physically attractive, doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:22 PM
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The reason men get romantic and/or sexual attention from women is because they can offer sexual desirability or pleasant enough personalities to offsite whatever they lack physically. Men who are unsuccessful are unsuccessful because they are unwilling to offer either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:11 PM
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Most of them fall in to the want-to-be category, but when given any amount of power these men quickly turn into massive bullies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:07 PM
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He gets a pass because he has the attractiveness to offer in compensation for his behavior just like a beautiful woman can be a total bitch and men will still beg to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:18 PM
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It's not empty advice and platitudes. It's exactly what you need to do. The advice you have been given and keep complaining about (because you don't like realizing your faults) is the advice that will get you a relationship, if you try. Hell, you don't even need to do any improvement, you just need to stop chasing women out of your league and be content to date someone like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:16 PM
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You mean, the days when Emmett Till (a male African-American child) was lynched on the accusation that he whistled at a white woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:10 PM
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Things were not better for women when our sexuality was restricted. All it meant was more women hated sex and hated their husbands. Talk to some old women sometime, plenty of them will tell you how being a rich widow was the ultimate dream for most women when they were young. And for low value men, the "good, old days" meant no sex unless they paid for it (and prostitutes were not cheap) or the sex was with other men or animals. In the "good, old days" low value men who looked the wrong way at w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:08 PM
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Men have been doing the same shit and worse with no "mask" on for much longer and getting away with it for much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:58 PM
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Gym membership, lifting weights and watching their diet will certainly get them closer to looking like the Rock than sitting around, eating a diet of Cheetos, and playing video games non-stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:41 PM
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Bad hygiene is visible from quite a distance and definitely visible in a digital image.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:15 PM
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The reason they are virgin/low count men is because they are massive bullies,or want-to-be bullies more likely, and they are verbally abusive (and want-to-be physically abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:09 PM
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I have never had a "bad boy" insult my appearance, ask me to pay for anything on a date, or try to rape me. It's always been average, nice guys that were assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:08 PM
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All of that is good advice and will help a man find a partner, if he actually follows it and doesn't constantly chase women vastly above him in terms of appearance and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:06 PM
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More like "A man who doesn't act like an asshole to woman is one that woman actually want to be around."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:04 PM
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I think you no nothing about what is life is like for women. This probably because when we tell you the truth you deny it as "deranged." Try listening to women about all the safety precautions we have to do on a daily basis not to get raped. Men live life on the easy mode. Women survive like soldiers in a war zone because of male violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:59 PM
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Exactly, men think Drew Barrymore who is hotter than 90% of the human race is "plain looking." I have listened to men describe Taylor Swift as the average girl next door and an example of what they would "settle" for in a wife provided she was submissive enough in other words a slave whore. Male entitlement is delusional into the stratosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:48 PM
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You are speaking from the perspective of privileged man (though to be fair there really isn't any other kind of male) who has no idea what life is like for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:45 PM
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The unchecked privilege is strong in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:41 PM
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Only in the mind's of supremely deluded men. All a man has to do for the opportunity to be a romantic is be clean and don't be abusive. If he can satisfy those two conditions a woman will marry him. A woman has to completely remake herself into an artificial version of femininity and work at the relationship day and night in order to find a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:01 PM
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Choosing not approach a woman is a form of rejection. Women don't approach men because they know men consider women who approach "sluts" and they will be victimized as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:32 PM
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The men rate women on a nice bell curve because most women spend an extreme amount of money and time on their appearance. Most men however don't, so yes the woman rated the men below average because they were below average when compared with the small group of men that actually make an effort to look good. However, women will marry men they consider below average all the time. Men will only marry women they consider attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:51 PM
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Or, you know, most guys are just invisible to women because they don’t hit the attractiveness threshold; which, by the way, is way higher for men. Meanwhile, men will literally fuck anything with a pulse. Bullshit! The attractiveness threshold for men is basic hygiene and no extra limbs (though there are more women would find that attractive in a man than there are men who would find a woman with an extra limb attractive. What repulses most women about most men are the men's personalities. And b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:09 PM
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It took years for me to find my first husband and years after he died to find my second husband. Chances are there were probably a lot of women you ignored at those events. There always are. Women who are less than model quality are invisible to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:29 PM
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Porn is more popular, no doubt, but there are problably young men in some highly religious families that still do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:07 PM
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Go anywhere in the world where men and women are allowed to socialize and you will meet women. You will have to be clean. You will have to refrain from talking about fantasies of raping and murdering women. But other than that, there's really nothing more the average guy needs to do in order to find a wife. Most men just reject all their options to chase because they want a porn star/mommie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:06 PM
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Of course, the male need to masturbate is always catered too. Pornography is still very popular also.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:47 PM
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Usually it's a lack of options in general. As I have said before the bar for men is subterranean. Women tolerate too much abuse because their other options for partners are even worse men. Men have zero options, when we say we have zero options we literally mean ZERO. Nothing. Nada. Total bullshit! The average man has hundreds of options, but rejects all those women because they don't look like swimsuit models and they won't sex immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 06:31 PM
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I think you have no idea how much the average women has to suffer in order to conform to the current beauty standards or the dangers dating presents for us. And at least men have the option to approach. Women who approach men are quickly branded as "easy" or "sluts". Once that happens to a women, she is a victim-in-waiting. And most girls do love makeup and high heels I've never actually met a women for whom this is true. Women often have to say this to maintain the masquerade that they enjoy pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:47 PM
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I hate cold approach and it has such an abysmal success rate. I only do it because I literally have no other choice. I hate make-up, high heels, and every aspect of dating in general, but I suffered through it because I had literally no other choice if I wanted to find someone. Life isn't for the weak.;
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:03 AM
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The thing is for women it’s not a barrier. For men, absolutely it is. Men value purity. Women value experience. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Virginity is a barrier for women because most men don't want to wait until marriage for sex. And virgin men re actually the absolute worst when it comes to this. I know from too many dates with guys that valued their penises above moral purity. Women who value purity, value purity in men also. Our biggest barriers is actually finding a man who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:59 AM
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Wouldn't that mean women women suffer heavily tho. Not enough attractive men to go around There already aren't enough attractive, successful men to go around. The only chance the majority of men have is approaching women for the opportunity to demonstrate to they (those men) are a better choice than a vibrator and a good souffle (or other favorite snack).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:45 AM
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Quite the opposite would probably happen. Men would get more thirsty because they would have far fewer chances (no smart, sane women is going to waste time on a guy that isn't highly sexually attractive) and men would have a much higher drive to do a lot of things because they would be much more competition to get a woman's attention in order to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:12 AM
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No, men would be even more miserable because women wouldn't approach them. Only a miniscule percentage of the male population is actually worth a woman's time and effort. Men approaching women in literally the only chance 90-99% of the male population has for an opportunity to try to convince a woman he is not a useless pest, but someone who could add value to her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:03 AM
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When I got into serious therapy for depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:57 AM
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Usually women who enter into that sort of relationships fall into two categories. The dumb ones don't have the long-range thinking to be scared. The smart ones make sure they get well paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:54 PM
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No, the only thing important to me is that I am his last choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:45 PM
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I found him attractive. He was very attractive. He just wasn't Jewish; therefore, no relationship was possible. I didn't want, never wanted, his romantic attention and I refused it completely for reasons of morality, not attraction. My love for to G_d, was/is more powerful than any sexual feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:31 PM
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That was posted seven years and the nostalgia glasses were rather dense when I was recalling him. Looking back I realize a lot of that guy's behavior really wasn't appropriate. He was mentally abusive and border line rapey. I probably would not have had so many problems realizing me and my late husband should be together if my earlier friendship with that guy hadn't occurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:25 PM
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Experience has shown me that incels always start it (harassing and bullying women) first. If they would just shut up and stop bothering women, they would be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:17 PM
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Decades of experience dealing with men. Women are accurately aware that men will use any excuse to beat or otherwise harm us. We only use insults and ridicule when it's strategically necessary to isolate men and limit their ability to rely on the usual male allies. Drawing attention to involuntary male virginity hits the egos of incels hard and also makes them targets for other more ruthless males.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:15 PM
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The women are merely responding in kind to the behavior the men are exhibiting. This concept of doing good things because they're the right thing to do is only effective when dealing with good people. But this concept is completely lost on most men who regularly watch and applaud when women are victimized. Some people, most men, only learn when they experience punishment for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:26 PM
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That because if women are using those terms, chances are the guy started it by being insulting and derogatory to the women. The problem is men want to insult woman, but start to cry when women fight back. Hell, yes, women protect each other. It's survival because we know men certainly won't protect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:21 PM
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Women are psychologically inclined to be attracted to men who have social proof. Men are the same, I was a lonely, ugly geek young woman who had no friends. Other than rape attempts, men only noticed me if they needed someone to insult or humiliate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:19 PM
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Call out other women who are mocking, insulting, discriminating virgin/inexperienced guys. If you do not already do this yourself, start seeing virgin/inexperienced men as human beings and don't take that factor in account for judging them as persons This will happen as soon as men stop mocking, insulting, discriminating against women for their sexual histories or lack thereof. Before I got married I had virgin men insult me for being an virgin claiming it was proof of how ugly and undesirable I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:17 PM
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The Just World Fallacy is one of society's biggest barrier to Dating for Women also. Plenty of women are feed the lies that if we are good people, kind and fair, men will see the "beauty of our souls, etc." and value us. But that doesn't happen in real life. Only beauty counts for women. Men heap money and love on absolute garbage women because those women are pretty. I've watched doctors marry former whores and I've seen a millionaire marry a war criminal. But the women were always very beautif…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:13 PM
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Human cruelty. Because business owners are greedy bastards that don't want to pay their employees decent wages. Because rich people run our government and they want to keep the underclasses barely surviving so the underclasses are easier to control and exploit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:00 PM
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Pure in the sense that they want to be loved for who they are, not for the money, stability or emotional validation they provide. Newsflash. Young woman and inexperienced women factor money, stability or emotional validation in choosing partners more than older woman. Young woman and inexperienced women have more to lose in any sort of commitment. Only the really dumb ones are going to squander their social value on men beneath them. You seem to believe that what "Chad" (the hot attractive guy) …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:54 PM
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Absolutely, it is dealbreaker if we are in the United States or any other tipping culture. A man who doesn't tip much is classed with a guy who kicks puppies and spits on old people in my opinion. It doesn't matter if he "just doesn't love the idea of tipping for things he believes should be covered by employers." In the United States, those things are not covered by employers, so the waitstaff depend on tips to survive. Not tipping is literally robbing poor people. It's absolutely vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:41 PM
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What if, deep down, most people, men included, just want to be loved in a pure form? This kind of love does not exist because humans are flawed, unpure beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:34 PM
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You know nothing about life as a woman. Only the top !% of women don't face get rejected a lot. Life for most women is a daily rejection of basic human dignity for being the wrong gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:11 PM
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Some women may do makeup for themselves. Many women do not. You seem willfully ignorant of the fact that women are not a hive mind and have different opinions about things. Plenty of women do makeup for attracting the men that are worth interacting with. Those men require the makeup; therefore, they should be paying the cost of the makeup and the body care and the uncomfortable clothes and shoes. The men who don't (which I have yet to actually meet), are welcomed to marry the women who don't spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:46 PM
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Now wait a minute, we were told that women don’t dress for or do their makeup for men, but for themselves? Which is it It depends on the woman. Women have different minds. I suppose there are some women that like to dress up or do makeup, but I have honestly never meet one. I dress up and wear make up because ugly women are treated like garbage in this society and not even considered human or at least not worthy of being treated with dignity or respect. Regardless no one likes to admit when they…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:01 PM
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It all depends on the person I suppose, but I learned a long time ago, marriage isn't about romance. It's about commitment. I would never consider a man that would only commit to a coffee date in order to talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 09:53 PM
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they're not using the WHOLE make up/perfume bottle, but that's the money they still say they spent on the date, Chances are the fraction of the makeup/perfume bottle, clothing cost and maintenance, etc. that they spent for the date is indeed more expensive than cost of the cheap coffee date. Most men have no idea how expensive such things are. And it's not just the cost of make-up, clothing, hair styling products, it's the time and effort consumed getting ready for the date. Coffee dates are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:50 PM
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Romance is something only beautiful women get in marriage. Once I accepted that romance would never happen for me, living felt a lot less painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:57 PM
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I would place the line at anything that would be considered physical assault such as her using physical force to obtain samples of the body fluids for testing. When I was dating, I preferred to use matchmakers to confirm everything about potential husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:02 PM
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Bullshit. What's wrong is that men are spoiled brats. But now women want guys to "check all these boxes" before they even go out on a date. That's because looking good for dates is expensive for women (usually more expensive than the cost of the date) and we are sick of wasting our money and time on guys that don't meant some basic standards. Incidentally, in many cultures such as mine religious observant Jews, it has been the norm for generations for men and women "check all these boxes" before…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:54 PM
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With that opinion, you have to you agree that unattractive men (i.e., most men) should therefore, be deliriously happy and eternally grateful when a woman does "settle" for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:22 PM
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As a gotcha this is rather pathetic. There is already a number of a women who for whatever reason (sexual trauma, asexuality, religion, etc.) don't want sex with a partner who would take a guy up on this offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:15 PM
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A lot of life is sad. To keep on living one just learns to deal with it. I think it's better to have some happiness than none at all. And that's what men who have a problem about being "settled" for (most men in other words) fail to understand. Unless a person is one of the top 1% of human attractiveness, fabulously wealthy and talented, they are going to be "settled for" when they pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:02 PM
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The real problem is the nerdy guys want sexy cheerleaders not their female nerdy counterpart. I see it everyday on the University campus I work at. Geeky guys insult the geeky women in their classes, gaming group, or social circle (i.e., the very women who share the same hobbies and interests). Then, the same guys become frothing at the mouth incels because rich, sorority members won't date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:47 PM
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That's because you are viewing yourself as the perfect, desired person in this story. Be honest. Your husband says to you that when you first met he considered you ugly, even hideous. But through the persistence of your presence, he's come to terms with your appearance and only recently has come to feel I skiver of attraction. Are you jumping for joy? What you are describing is my experience in both my marriages and every romantic relationship I have ever had. I have to make Herculean efforts to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:33 PM
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I don't know how you are able to see this as anything but utterly romantic and beautiful. These women came to love their husbands so much that the men's unattractive appearance did not prevent their wives from enjoying sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:06 PM
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The problem is that EVERY man, no matter how ugly or poor, wants a woman as good (however they are judging good) as high status men are able to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:52 PM
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Rich and influential enough to enjoy a good life without struggle and protect their families. Families where people work because they want something to do, not because they actually need an income to support themselves. Families who don't have to worry about the police at their door because the police know not bother them. Families that don't have to worry about their women dying from septic abortions because they have the means to get them places where safe medical abortions are possible. In ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:30 PM
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Interesting given how many of your comments claim men try to date out of their league. Because those men offer women beyond their league nothing in return, but humiliation. I'm a virtuous, observant Jewish woman, the foundation of a proper family and home, my value is above rubies. I am not be able to marry a Cohen because I am a widow, but my husband should thank Almighty multiple times a day, I am with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:19 PM
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Absolutely, it was the major, probably the highest, marriage requirement when I choose my second husband. Even with love, marriage is a great risk and a horrendous ton of painful work for women. I certainly wasn't going to enter into a marriage that meant only misery and pain for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:53 PM
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Men never stop at "talking shit about women." It only escalates and empowers some of them to become violent. It conditions some of them to microaggressions against women and contributes to voting matters that lead to the destruction of women's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:35 PM
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The idea that you should base your life choices and day to day life on how your elderly years will be, is quite silly. Reasoning like that leaves a lot of people miserable once their youth passes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:30 PM
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I’m very well off and I’ve always preferred women who don’t have flashy things like designer handbags. Might even say that’s a major reason why I’m well off. Am I in the wrong socioeconomic class? Well off isn't the same as having generational money that guarantees security and relative safety for generations. Hell, I am "well off", by the standards of most Americans, but it's not enough money for me to quit my job and just live. Incidentally, the best designer handbags aren't flashy. Class is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:19 PM
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It shouldn’t be a transaction. I agree, but I also know in the real world this isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:13 PM
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I guarantee you high status men still don't care about what handbag you have on your shoulder. Based on that remark, I guarantee you have never meet any high status men except maybe the ones that are outcasts among their own peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:09 PM
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Really? LOL! That's a requirement for you? You're gonna cut out 99% for the 1% based on the fact that they value a really nice handbag? Forget looks, ambition, thoughtfulness, emotional intelligence and humor...you don't need any of that. You just wanna guy who says, "OMG!! What a cute handbag!". Okie dokie. Sigh. Autism is higher in society than I thought. Handbags are class indicators and culture signals. People identify those similar to them by such items. It's about finding a man from the ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:44 PM
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So I was right. You never posted there, and are parroting the opinion you were told to have of the subreddit. I accept your concession. I don't have to post on a subreddit to read it's contents. I didn't bother to post on that subreddit because I knew it would be waste of time. Let me answer that question with another: if you have no reason to post there, then why do you have any right to tell those men what to talk about? Because hate should be opposed. It is morally wrong to be a bystander whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:36 PM
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I’m guessing the “plenty” you read was comments and posts shared elsewhere on Reddit to shame and humiliate those men. I read enough to be sickened to the misogyny and the whining by spoiled man-children who absolutely refused do make the slightest effort improve their lives. Those men deserves shame and humiliation. Some of them deserved to be on the watchlists of multiple law enforcement agencies. If you actually posted there, which you didn’t, you would know that one of the most upvoted threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:56 PM
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I read plenty of that cesspool. It was always whine, whine, whine. Why don't supermodels want to date broke overweight video game addicts and why can't 40 year old losers rape nine year old girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:41 PM
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Oh, I think there is quite a bit of shame as a result of the double standards of sexual behavior. Men gain from having sex with a partner. Women lose however and nobody likes to admit they put themselves in dangerous situation. The variance is high because women from many cultures post on this board and standards of shame differ throughout the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:37 PM
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The 1% that do care are the guys that are actually worth making any effort for however.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:34 PM
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Bullshit! When most men encounter a woman that doesn't do the fake feminine thing with hair-styling, make-up, costumes, etc., they immediately start screaming that she's an ugly bull dyke..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:30 PM
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Mutual physical attraction is useful. However making that the basis for marriage is a very bad idea in my opinion. Everyone gets old and most of us do look less attractive, sometimes extremely less attractive, as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:26 PM
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Women often don’t think about sex as much as men do. Their sexual urges seem to be a lot less frequent. So for most of the month, many women live without strong sexual feelings, and sex isn’t really on their mind day-to-day. This is false. I don't think men's and women's sexual urges are that different. Women are just more self-disciplined. partially because the risks of sex (pregnancy and potential pariah status) are thousands of times greater for us than for men and partially because sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:23 PM
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You obviously haven't spent any time among women at all, right? Women don't have in-group bias. Patriarchy pits women against each other in competition for men. And female-based movements arose for self-defense. Men on the other hand hate and are absolutely disgusted by othere men, men deem stranger men as danger and peers as competition. Hence male friendship not being a good place to get support, value or intimacy. That sounds more like a personal confession than reality. The fact that recent …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:15 PM
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If all these "communities exclusively for sad, lonely men" didn't exclusively devote all their time and energy talking about how they want to beat, rape, and murder women that wouldn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:09 PM
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Religious women who believe that marriage should be monogamous and marriages should last for a life-time are more likely to consider things other than just physical appearance in choosing a husband. Of course, there are no doubt atheist and agnostic women who share this view also. The main thing is to look for would be a woman who believes that character and personality are important and who doesn't see immediate physical attraction as the most important consideration in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:33 PM
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It absolutely would work. I know plenty of religious women who will admit, they thought their husbands were boring, bland, and unattractive at first. Plenty of them talked openly among other women about plans to never have sex with the lights on because they knew seeing his face would ruin any possible enjoyment for them. But the guy's personality grew on them. They enjoyed his company, talking to him, and doing things together as a couple to the extent that his appearance became endearing to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:55 PM
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It has never been easier for a man to get a partner than now. All he has to do is be a decent human being. Modern men just absolutely refuse to date women who are similar to them in physical attractiveness levels and social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:22 PM
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Bullshit! Women date and marry conveniently unattractive men all the time. As long as a man is willing to treat a women decently, he will get a partner. Like it's said frequently the bar for men is subterranean. All a man has to do to get a date, a girlfriend, or a wife is don't be rapist. How fucking difficult is that? Apparently for millions of men, it's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:49 PM
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Yes, because all those men who find no one are definitely only looking for supermodels Yep, that is basically the entire problem in modern dating succinctly reduced to a single sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:36 PM
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It's definitely a choice. There are plenty of women looking for partners. They just aren't pretty enough for men to consider marrying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:18 PM
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I actually have more respect for men who do this than the ones that waste women's time and emotions going through the dating rituals when all they really want is sex and have no intentions of marrying. My only concern is whether or not the men pay enough to make it worth the effort for the women. A lot of people in the entertainment industry are underpaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:09 PM
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Unfortunately, I am describing most typical guys for the last two decades. Women aren't dating because the men are deplorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:03 PM
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Incredible numbers of women are supporting their husbands now in comparison to previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:42 PM
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It would be completely illogical for the average man who has zero options to turn down a relationship because he only wants to hookup, when he's incapable of getting hookups in the first place. First mistake, you are trying to apply logic to male behavior. Delusions run high with a lot of men. The average man believes he should be getting sex all the time for just a nod. When this doesn't happen he blames feminism, gays, or whatever minority is most popular to hate at his location.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:55 PM
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That's the caveat, the average woman doesn't want the average man, see where I'm going with this? I see that you're going deep into the land of denial and delusions. The average woman absolutely wants the average man, but the average man wants a teen model with a trust fund who gives out porn star sex for him just showing up for coffee (for which he obviously will not pay for).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:50 PM
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Most of that "attention" is unwanted and not flattering. That "attention" is men wanting to victimize women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:11 PM
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Men can date someone they perceive as having lower value than their own, while women will only date either equal or higher perceived value, that's the difference. Bullshit. Most women date men completely below them. The bar for men h s sunk so low it's in hell. As long a man is alive, he can get a wife. Of course, she won't be a virgin, super model with a multi-million dollar trust fund, but by what right has any man to demand standards in a woman that he himself can't match? If men weren't spoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:09 PM
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Their dating and hookup experiences are what matters more. Not in terms of what most people believe will give them long-term happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:57 PM
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I live in one of the largest cities in the United States. I also do a lot of volunteer work. I commonly encounter a lot of poor people. Broke, old, fat, bald, ugly, single dads are slightly less common than broke, old, fat, bad-hair style, single moms, but their numbers seem to be growing. Amazingly, most of those losers seem to have girlfriends. Frequently the girlfriend is the reason the guy is a single dad. This is almost never seen with the single moms however.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:35 PM
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Bruh, womens equivelant would be broke, short, ugly, old, single dad, bald/balding, fat and maybe an incel Everyday good women marry men who have all these characteristics. And everyday men who are broke, short, ugly, old, single father and fat reject women that have even one of those characteristics. The problem has always been male entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:22 PM
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Regardless of who is earning the bulk of the money, partners should consider each other's feelings above all else. Supporting MAGA businesses is one of those lines in the sand, hill they are prepared to die on, dealbreakers, etc., for some people and I definitely understand the wife's opinion. The guy should respect his wife and find another solution or if he absolutely feels he must use this MAGA pharmacist find a way to pay for it himself rather than ask his wife to do something she considers …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 02:07 PM
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If one goes to developing countries, the young women are more likely to need the benefits of an older, financially stable man and to therefore find them attractive The young women don't find older men physically attractive the way so many men (especially on this board) seem to think is important. The young women find older men's financial assets attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:45 PM
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This is not financial abuse. It's a couple having a disagreement and a man being an asshole about it. If the husband wants to use the MAGA pharmacy so damn bad, he should get a job and pay for his medications there all by himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 01:48 PM
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Everyday if am out in public rather than staying home. A lot of men seem attractive at first, but their personalities make them repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 01:43 PM
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Not well enough to have a deep discussion though I can read Ladino a bit better than I can speak Ladino.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:53 PM
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I'm Sephardi, we don't have those divisions. Orthodox, Conservative or Reform are an Ashkenazi thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:35 PM
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Hell, no. I think those people are deranged idiots. I am an observant Jew however. I consider sex without marriage degrading to the soul and would not engage in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:23 PM
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What kind of women have you talked to to gather that those are the standards The kind he would never have a chance in attracting in a millions years. I doubt the OP could reach even one of those qualifiers let alone all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:54 PM
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That is total bullshit! The only requirements for men in 2025 are don't be an abuser and don't smell. Women on the other hand have to completely remake our bodies into this fake version of a woman. Body hair is natural. Body fat is natural and having some degree of fat is more healthier than the emaciated shape of a child with visible ribs. And unless a man chooses to remain a virgin until he marries he has not right to expect a woman to be virgin or have a low number of previous lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:53 PM
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Yes. And only with their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 03:26 PM
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Sometimes the internet is a good thing. Most organizations now have webpages with contact information and links to volunteer opportunities. Community bulletin boards on the internet will also have information. Alternatively look up some telephone numbers and call during business hours and they will give you information on volunteering or direct you to the place where you can find this information.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:42 PM
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You don't have to be join the church to attend social events sponsored by them just don't be overtly disrespectful. Consider it like doing field work in cultural anthropology (i.e., you are observing a foreign tribe or culture). It's quite possible you might find someone else in the same situation (i.e., not religious, but at the religious groups' event to meet people and have something to do). Many churches have volunteer projects (feeding the homeless, doing repair work for the poor, etc.) tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:56 PM
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If men really believe that, then they would be more grateful and appreciative to the women that have sex with them and women who want to have casual sex would be treated like celebrities. But that's not what happens. Most men seem absolutely infuriated by the idea that a woman would want to enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:42 PM
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I take it you have never starved which is what most women have to do in order to reach the emaciated state most men describe as "just don't be fat."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:02 PM
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You have to understand women literally don't like s x as much as men do Along with that we also have to take care of pregnancy etc etc, women also orgasm way less than men do Got to disagree with this premise. I absolutely love good sex. My late husband said I had a libido like a guy. I know I wouldn't like casual sex however, so I would never engage in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 07:00 PM
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It’s why women are the privileged sex. They get physical intimacy on tap. There is nothing intimate about casual sex with a stranger. It's two people using each other's bodies for orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:57 PM
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Three or four hours after our wedding ceremony is fine with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:53 PM
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Many churches and synagogues have social programs designed to pair single people together. These are excellent places for a polite cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:43 PM
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We don't. We only shame women who approach us in a disgusting manner for immoral purposes. Men like that deserve to be shamed and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:37 PM
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They can’t force a woman to get an abortion They can certainly make abortion seem like the best option. And if abortion were an easy, convenient option, they might have a good legal argument that men should be able to opt out of fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:49 PM
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Well, if men don't like this situation they need to be strenuously campaigning for abortion to be safe, legal, and commonly accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:18 PM
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B) without a hesitation. It is most important thing for me is to raise a son who is a moral person, not misogynist that would take sexual advantage of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 08:15 PM
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Women can and always have expressed their desires Bullshit. Throughout history women have been murdered for expressing their sexual desires and preferences. It happens in many communities in the modern West today. And even in some of the most liberal communities in the West, women are shunned for having sexual practices outside conventional norms. At every turn men’s standards are villainised by women. Age standards - villainised. Body type standard - villainised. Promiscuity standard - villaini…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 09:32 PM
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Comparing bad treatment in one part of the world to worst treatment in others doesn't justify the bad treatment. Low value western men should look at the situation of low value men in other countries to see how relatively good that they have it. Part of my family, the Christian cousins, are from the Balkans. In rural areas there low value men are savagely beaten or even killed for looking the wrong way at a woman from a higher family. That legal system is supported by woman and frequently protec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:49 PM
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I know women have to go out of their way to date an average guy because I see guys who are vastly below average refusing to date women who are above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:41 PM
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First study to be found on google. There are others. https://www.medicaldaily.com/shoes-sex-appeal-why-women-high-heels-make-men-weak-knees-311622 That 80/20 stuff is just a lie incels tell each other to explain why no woman wants them. The problem is women want men that are decent human beings, not depraved breasts and too many men are the later. edit: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-020-00832-y As there has been some argument on the methodology of the first study.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:46 PM
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I already know I'm decent and kind to everyone An amazing number of abusive people believe they are decent and kind to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:01 PM
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If enough men are disenfranchised, they will stop protecting women against the predations of other men. As if men ever did before unless it was in the sense of viewing women as property. Women have always had to protect ourselves. We know we can't count on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:40 PM
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Women will basically date any man that is decent and kind to them. There just aren't many men really to meet those standards Perhaps you should evaluate what you should do to met the standard above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:38 PM
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Enjoy the break in your solitude. Now if you could only acknowledge reality and act accordingly, a woman might actually take a chance on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:50 PM
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Women don't use makeup to have a chance of dating average men lol, they do it to get more attention and validation, especially from higher tier men. Yes, we do. Average men will not date an average woman who does not wear make-up. Hell, if an average woman doesn't use make-up to enhance her appearance to replicate the artificial femininity of models, the average man treats her lower than a dog. We get called bull-dykes, sexually harassed and raped, if we don't conform to the fake image average m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:34 PM
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It’s has even gotten political, with young men voting strongly for very conservative politicians, so it might actually be in women’s interests to start to compromise more. Compromise only empowers bullies. Women need to organize better, punish men, and destroy toxic masculinity. Young men need to be taught that if they if they don't respect women, women will destroy their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:27 PM
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Women will basically date any man that is decent and kind to them. There just aren't many men really to meet those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:23 PM
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I didn't know this was a thing. How can somebody be too jewish? Actually wanting to live according to the Halakha: pre-marital chastity, observing the Sabbat, eating kosher, etc. I encountered way too many jerks (politest term I can use for them) who wanted a virgin, but threw absolute fits at the thought of having to wait until marriage to have sex. It's a major factor in why I find the virgin obsession by so many men disgusting and when I was looking for a husband and absolute reason for rejec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:17 PM
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I got a few first dates with JDate, but they always ended with the guy saying I was "too Jewish" for him. JDate was created specifically for Jews to meet other Jews. A very large number of my male Jewish friends did find their wives through JDate however.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:02 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:56 AM
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Nonsense, complete bullshit, plenty of women hate the "dolled" up look. We shouldn't have to put ourselves through that torture, but beauty is the only thing mainstream society values in women. If men were willing to date and marry women similar to them in appearance and social status; make-up, high heels, etc., wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:40 PM
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I don’t think most men feel entitled. Too many of them certainly act entitled which speaks infinitely louder than feelings. feminism is telling women that it’s okay to have early sex with a guy and to be promiscuous. Feminism tells women they have the right to make decisions on their sexuality based on their values and desires, not because they are property of a man. I choose only to have sex with my husbands because that felt right for me, but quite frankly, because so many men have pre-marital…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:51 PM
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Men occasionally get the advice to lower their standards on income, morality, or intellect, but never on beauty. Being ugly is the unforgivable flaw for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:33 PM
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Like all 10,000 of those women are out of the guy’s league? 99.9% of the time, absolutely yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:41 PM
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internet incels are certainly degenerate but physical abusers are a completely different breed theyre not even close to the same thing No, they are highly similiar. If a man can say it, he's capable of doing it. It's only a matter of how capable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:10 PM
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When women are told to choose better it basically means choose the ugly “nice” guy who’s awkward, shy an engineer and can’t get a girl to like him Of course, the ugly guy who's an awkward shy engineer absolutely refuses to date the ugly gal who's an awkward shy engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:05 PM
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“Choose better” is usually unsubtle code for “pick more based on personality and less on looks.” Which men are never told. Even the most repulsive trolls of men consider themselves entitled to beautiful women. If men were willing to date and marry women similar to them in appearance and social status, there would be virtually no single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:00 PM
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salty internet guy is more dangerous than literal physical abuser? The salty internet guy will become a literal physical abuser if given a remote chance. That's why he is never given the chance. It's often said when people show you who they are, believe them. Incels show us their hatred of women and desire to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:53 PM
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That's because incels are more obvious in their misogyny than other potential abusers. The misogyny radar didn't malfunction, the incel is just as dangerous or possibly more, so than the smooth abuser. The incel just doesn't know how to hide their evil natures as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:33 PM
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Actually, it says a women and a man should submit to G_d before any mortal human. I think certain parts of the Torah have certainly been interpreted in misogynistic ways and certain concepts of the Torah (like laws concerning slavery and women "submitting" to their husbands) are artifacts of the past that may have served a good purpose at the time they were created, but now should never be applied. Judaism is about interpreting the law and we are not supposed to blindly follow, but to constantly…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:07 PM
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No, the only men I have had sex with have been first (now late) husband and my second husband after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:57 PM
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I wouldn't have sex with him unless we were married. Now if after we were married, he still did not want to have sex with me, I would suggest counseling, immediate counseling. If counseling didn't change things, I would have the marriage annulled and move on the next guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:19 PM
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do you think orthodox jews "Date" and have "relationships"? they go to the matchmaker and get married Actually dating does happen. I went on hundreds of dates. Dates just have to occur in situations were there are witnesses that there is no physical contact (public places or someone's house where there are chaperones).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:36 PM
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More traditional in dating ventures and relationships meaning the guy takes control of relationships I shall borrow from the Ashkenazi, "Oh vey! you have no idea how many Jewish marriages work."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:31 PM
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The red pill is extremely misogynistic. It promotes men abusing women and reduces the sacred institution of marriage to legal prostitution. Now I am not opposed to legal prostitution. I consider it sinful and I would not encourage a man or women to engage in it, but what adults want to do with their bodies is between them and G_d. Marriage and family is something more. It's about commitment and loyalty. Hopefully love grows in marriage also, but if not, there should still be the previously menti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:30 PM
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I oppose the "red pill". I agree with many blue pill ideas about equality and respect in dating and selection of a marital partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:19 PM
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The same reason I eat kosher and pray multiple times a day. I am Jew who practices my faith. Sex is only for within marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:11 PM
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An emotional connection, not necessarily, but I would have to be legally married to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:52 PM
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Project much, snowflake? I am a normal woman which means I've lived my entire life with a target on my back because of my gender and to a certain extent because of my religious faith, but there is more of a support system for victims of religious persecution. My reactions are only natural based on my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:02 PM
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And your position is that women, especially women in this sub, don’t do that? Women know how incredibly difficult, stressful, expensive and time-consuming it is for a woman to find a partner. We risk our lives every time we are alone with a man because so many men are abusive to either strangers or women they have known for years. Dating is hell for us. Listening to unjustly entitled over-privileged, spoiled men whine like babies because they can't effortless obtain their "preferences", is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:46 PM
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Because men, especially men on this sub, constantly act like it is failure of women when men can't effortlessly obtain their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:09 PM
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If my son follows my advice, he will be happily married before he is 25. If he doesn't, well, his loneliness will be his own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:54 PM
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Feeling used is not a good feeling. Well, how the hell do you think women feel all the time knowing the only reason a man is interested in her is that he wants to fuck her? That he's using her image in his sexual fantasies? Because he's not taking women he doesn't sexually want out on dates. That's why so many women hate dating, hate socializing, and in general just hate any interaction with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:53 PM
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The male loneliness epidemic is purely a result of male deficiency and the refusal of men to date and marry the women that are their matches. I am raising my son (and hopefully I'll have more sons and daughters) to respect women and treat women as people rather than as sex objects. I actually don't want him to date the way most young people date in America. I would prefer he met his wife through a matchmaker. But I know he will probably have some social contact with the opposite sex. Hopefully h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:51 PM
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Besides, it's all over the mainstream media AND their parents taught them since childhood not to hook up, that men only want one thing etc etc. You would be surprised how many parents do not attempt to teach their daughters this. And mainstream media overwhelming gives girls the impression that their only value is being sexually desirable and sexually available to men. And it's pretty much established that women have more intuition and emotional intelligence. Not really, that's more of a stereot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:57 PM
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The best way for men to never have a date and die alone is to get separate orders on dates. No woman wants a man who considers the cost of a typical casual dinner more important than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:42 PM
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What they really mean is that"they'd give anyone a chance" that looks like swimsuit model a chance,if she were willing to pay for dates and fulfill all their sexual fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:46 PM
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Denial is not a mispronunciation of the longest river on Earth, it's a common facet of men on this board.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:05 PM
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Nonsense, ugly men with good hearts and minds become attractive once a woman gets to know them. It happens to good men who are ugly all the time. However if a woman is not attractive, she is condemned and exiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:50 PM
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Interesting, you want women to be as cruel as possible to men while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:46 PM
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Self-destructive tendencies. You know, repeating the same bad patterns. With each hook-up, they are hoping that it will be different, that they will find the person that will make them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:44 PM
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So the only time a woman has dated an asshole is because every man she knows is an asshole and there are zero nice or good men around her? The world is vast and wide, so I am sure there are a rare cases where this is not accurate, but yes for almost all cases it is true that if a women dates an asshole it is because every man she knows is an asshole and there are zero nice or good men around her. Actual nice or good men are exceeding rare, like red or blue diamonds, so most women have to pick th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:39 PM
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May you find your happiness in a average looking woman who has had sex with all your friends first then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:55 PM
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Quite the opposite. Don't be an asshole is quality one, but if there are no guys around that reach that quality, women have to make do with what is available. Don't be an asshole means that a man who can manage to fulfill at least this quality will stand a higher chance than all the men around him who can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:54 PM
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Bullshit. I interviewed plenty of ugly trolls looking for a husband and would have married some of them if they didn't have such repulsive opinions about women and the world in general. Plenty of ugly men have wives. Virtually no ugly women have husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:28 PM
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So what are we doing here? Well, I am trying to give men insight into why the problem of assholes being able to get women exists. It's really simple. The assholes are unfortunately, the best choices in bad situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:25 PM
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Nope, more like the guys who are successful with women that have asshole personalities usually have a few other things going for them in life. The other guys around those women aren't any better personality wise, there are just even less advantages to dating them than the guys who are jerk with a few positive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:01 PM
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If he has nothing else going for him and there are alternatives, being an asshole will definitely stop a man from getting women. The problem is when there are no good men, plenty of women will choose the lesser evil guy. Yeah, they know he's an asshole, but they also know other options are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:59 PM
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Plenty of women have self-destructive tendencies from childhood abuse. That explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:56 PM
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Most guys can't make it to point 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:30 PM
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Quality "satisfying sex" isn't the same as quantity sex. Triple digit body counts doesn't mean a damn thing about the quality of the sex or whether the women in question even wanted that type of sex. Plenty of women have self-destructive tendencies (usually the product of abusive families) that leads them to have a lot of indiscriminate sex. That sort of sex isn't satisfying to them. Many say it isn't even pleasurable. She just picked up a dude and got free dick and free accommodation all over t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 05:46 PM
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1.attractive safe orgasms Limited to just those standards then the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of average men being able to have a lot more satisfying sex than the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:43 PM
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It is significantly easier for a woman to get casual sex with a man far more attractive than herself than it is for men. There are plenty of attractive men willing to lower their standards considerably for casual sex It is also significant, vastly significant, that a woman would not consider sex under those circumstances satisfying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:35 PM
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I think if you honestly believed that and acted on that belief (i.e., respected a woman's concerns for safety in dating), it would vastly improve your dating chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:06 PM
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Plenty of women need an emotional connection to orgasm during sex. He can't just be a guy they barely know. Throughout this board, men argue that men have much lower standards in what women they find attractive than the standards women have for men that they find attractive; therefore, it should seem apparent that for women being able "to achieve the standard of being able to orgasm during sex with a man who cares about her pleasure and she finds attractive" is much more difficult because of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:03 PM
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I don't get how a little "Goodbye" over text puts you in imminent danger. Like if that was the case, women wouldn't be able to date at all Unfortunately, there are killers among us. Plenty of women don't date at all because of the risks. Some men are dangerous sociopaths and it takes a lot of vetting to weed them out. So women have to weigh whether a little "Goodbye" over text is worth their lives all the time. Until men understand this reality, they will never really understand women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:57 PM
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I know what religion this is and now all of your views on men make so much sense to me I doubt it. Experience has taught me that men who throw tantrums over being ghosted are completely incapable of understanding the world beyond their own self-adsorption.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:51 PM
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As long as the real fears women have about male violence mean "fuck all" to you, you will probably never get a date. Most women do not want to date men who lack empathy or the ability to understand others and we certainly don't want a relationship with a man incapable of caring about our feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:47 PM
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Your post indicates you would not be able to describe what"satisfying sex" means for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:44 PM
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Would you want to try that argument with literally ANY other demographic? When I was single men are the only demographic I dated. And as a matter of fact, I use the principle that it's better to ghost than deal with a potentially violent person in every social interaction I have. You are not jeopardizing your safety by communicating a rejection to someone. You have no idea what reality is like for a women do you. I have had men physically attack me for refusing to shake their hands AFTER it has …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:41 PM
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I ghost because degenerate or misogynistic male behavior makes me very angry and if I were to continue interacting with a man who exhibits that behavior, I would find myself responding to anything he says with very gut-stabbing cruel insults and otherwise uncivil online behavior. It's not about avoiding difficult conversations. It's about me not getting so enraged that I dox a guy to everyone I know and spread this information to his friends, his family, and his co-workers. So which to do you pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:31 PM
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I felt like I was going to die alone or that something was wrong with me because this kept happening. If it's happening every time, it should occur to you that the problem is something you are doing not other people. Talk to a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:22 PM
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It's a little different for you as a woman because when you don't find someone it's pretty easy to move on to the next person. As a man, you have no idea when you'll find the next person. It might be never. I felt like I was going to die alone or that something was wrong with me because this kept happening It's the exact same thing for a woman unless she's supermodel attractive and has a lot of money. The only difference is that a women hadto worry every time she is with a man about being raped,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:19 PM
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My mental health has been fucked due to this. I feel dehumanized. A woman's right not to be beaten or murdered outranks your feelings. You say most men are "harmless." Plenty of women and most crime statistics say otherwise. And yes, women do have the right to "fuck up someone's sense of worth because someone might not take it well over text". Our safety trumps your little fweelings, snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:07 PM
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I would hate any man that divorced me. If he divorced me for quitting a job, my divorce proceedings would be conducted in such a manner as to insure that I would never need to have a job in the future. I might consider selling some of his organs on the black market./s (only for the last sentence as that is illegal, but I would definitely fantasize about it.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:59 PM
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No, the best option for an unattractive man is to find a equally unattractive woman with similar interests and treat her with respect. If he does this, he will have a happy marriage with a friend, partner, and companion throughout life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:32 PM
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No, the world needs more men that hate when their own gender does evil things to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:15 PM
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I have one son. I am hoping to have more. The world needs more men that were raised feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:44 PM
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prostitution is an abusive industry. wtf? I think most people can agree that for most of history most forms of prostitution have involved exploitation and abuse. The only times it isn't have been under legal regulation. >involuntary virgins should just put some effort into finding the non virgin women who are not repulsed by them. did you think before you posted this that maybe they have already? From what I have seen none of them have. They spend all their energy chasing women vastly more attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:43 PM
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So virginal men should become sex tourists. Am I understanding you right? Absolutely not if they are going to third world countries where women are exploited. However there are legal brothels in the United States and legal prostitution is available in other First World countries where sex workers rights are protected. If virginal men are not willing to make any effort to met women, they should take that path. Now it mean some of the women they met later on will reject them, but they will just ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:39 PM
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I think you are being willfully ignorant and deny the reality. Loneliness and isolation may be painful, but those painful things do not justify harming other people. Anyone who believes they have the right to rape and enslave another humans (and women are humans) is a monster of the vilest sort. Incels may be genetically human, but they lack souls.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:23 PM
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When men rape and abuse women or advocate such behavior, they are worthless, useless, toxic and undeserving of love and affection and unwelcomed anywhere. They deserve far worse than being the butt of joke in the media. And they don't deserve sympathy. They deserve to be scorned and isolated for the good of the rest of the people. The rest of us that aren't vile monsters deserve to be protected from them by whatever means is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:15 PM
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Anyone who thinks "loneliness and isolation" justify the incel mindset and behavior is a worthless human being and a human monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:08 PM
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And more stupid young men will be unemployed or underemployed, suffering poverty and possibly cannon fodder after 2028.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:04 PM
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Would you change your tune if it was your son, dying of loneliness and isolation? No, if my son becomes a worthless human being that doesn't deserve a partner I will be the first to tell him that. Of course, I would gladly offer him advice and help, but if he absolutely refuses to be a decent human being, well, I'll probably just write him out of my life all together. Sometimes, that has to be done with monstrous family members. It's better to not have a son than have a human monster as a son.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:59 PM
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More red pill excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:52 PM
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You believe that the desert is 100% our own fault. And our own creation. And maintained by only other men. And therefore, we shouldn't complain about it. Absolutely. Men created the problem and they are the ones that should solve it. But they refuse. They deserve to die alone and unmourned.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:44 PM
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There are places where prostitution is legal. If these involuntary virgins feel it is so absolutely necessary they have sex and they don't want to make any effort to be pleasing to a woman, they should save up some money, go to a fully legal brothel and legally pay for sex. Otherwise, yes they are just whiners who don't want to fix themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:40 PM
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Any man that approaches you is obviously looking for sex. Bullshit. There are men (a small number unfortunately) who for religious or philosophical reasons men sincerely believe that sex is only appropriate in marriage, You just want them to be a dancing monkey and pretend they’re not so that you don’t get the ick. No, back when I was looking for a husband, I wanted the men who approached me to either have the same values as me or not waste my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:37 PM
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They followed and did the common advice that’s given to them and they still reached their 30’s being a virgin due to woman desiring him enough to do that intimate act with him It should have occurred to them well before reaching that point that the "common" advice wasn't working and therefore other advice should have been sought. Now he enters his 30’s where any effort he puts in will be for nothing because he doesn’t have the experiences most women want from him at that age and yet he can’t get…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:18 PM
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What do you mean obviously looking for sex? There are men who will flat out proposition a woman within 5 minutes of meeting them. So if i say to a girl i like she has a confident.and energetic vibe and she makes me curious about her and then i talk with her in order to get who she is and what she is doing to check if we vibe then ask her out is that unacceptable? If you politely ask for a date in a public place. Yes, that would be acceptable. Asking her to be alone with you, absolutely not. Unac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:44 PM
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Most women are not going to hook a man up to a polygraph to question him about his previous sex life. Some truly religious virgin women might, but those women aren't going to accept an involuntary virgin as a husband either. And plenty of women comfortable with casual sex don't have a problem with men going to prostitutes in situations where the sex-workers are volunteers and paid fairly. Once again, the true problem is involuntary virgin men refusing to make any effort to find their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:33 PM
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They have to create those chances not expect them to be given on a silver platter. Most virgin men refuse to make any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:28 PM
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If he is virgin by choice, that's very respectable. If he is virgin because he is a weird person, then there's not much to respect about that. This! It's not about him being a virgin. It's about why he is a virgin. I spent over a decade searching for a virgin man to marry who believed like I did. I never found one that was a virgin because he thought sex was only for marriage however.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:25 PM
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But it's the same as what non-virgin men think. Do you think players and bad boyfriends are secretly feminists or something? There are nonvirgin men who are not players or bad boyfriends. There are voluntary virgin men who are good men also though they are rarer. What the involuntary virgins on this sub screech about is not what all men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:20 PM
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More accurate is that involuntary male virgins make themselves targets with their horrible attitudes and absolute refusal to make any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:16 PM
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Too many guys approach like creeps; impolite, blatantly disrespectful and obviously only looking to use a woman for sex. That's what we hate. Approaching is perfectly acceptable as long as it's done with respect and courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:53 PM
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Ah so basically most virgin men are fucked. Nice. Blue pill everybody No, all virgin men are unfucked. Men who are involuntary virgins should just put some effort into finding the non virgin women who are not repulsed by them. And while not every sexually experienced women is willing to date a virgin, there are enough who will give a virgin man a chance if he treats her well, doesn't have an attitude problem about his involuntary virginity and makes some actual romantic effort. There is also the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:41 PM
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If a woman wants to have sex before marriage, she is not going to date or be in a relationship where this is not an option which includes the voluntary male virgins from her dating pool. Men who are involuntary virgins are usually too repulsive, physically and mentally for these women to date/have sex with also. Women who want to wait until marriage to have sex will date voluntary virgin men with the end goal of marriage. In fact, these voluntary virgin men are the most desirable men for them (I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 01:35 PM
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Women have been struggling with dating since dating became a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:06 PM
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If I were single, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 08:22 PM
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Back when I was single, if was done respectfully and politely, I thought it was great. Unfortunately, that very rarely happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:48 PM
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Character, kindness, and intelligence. If the unattractive man was more moral than the conventionally attractive man, he would definitely be the one I would pick. Kindness and an eagerness to help others or otherwise make the world a better place would be another tipping point in favor of the unattractive man. Also intelligence, I think it would be very difficult for me to be married to someone I couldn't have an intelligent conversation with, so a smart unattractive man would be vastly preferab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:36 PM
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This forum helps me understand my husband. Unfortunately, I have a tendency to give people I love the benefit of a doubt too much and this is a dangerous thing in marriage. This forum reminds me of how real and pervasive misogyny is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:32 PM
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For women who have been abused guys that are in prison are "safe". Those men aren't able to physical abuse their wives and children because they are literally physically separated from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:29 PM
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The major problem I have with terps is that they demand the world change to fit them, and act like spoilt toddlers when other people - particularly women - refuse to play their dumb games Exactly. They don't want to just live their lives by their choices, they want everyone, especially hot women, to applaud their choices and give them free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:25 PM
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If you offer your opinion, others are allowed to trash it. If you don't want people tearing your opinion to shreds, pointing out the bad logic and contradictions, there is easy way avoid this: keep your opinion to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:24 PM
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I see so many post blaming the Redpill and critical of the ideology and saying men should change. Well what should men that don't want to change do,what if they are content with being single not getting married nor dating not having kids. Actually be content with their decision and stop annoying other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:21 PM
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Sorry, it hurt so much when the obese, ugly uneducated Walmart's cashier dumped you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:39 PM
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A lot of men are outraged by these common sense strategies to pick better men. That because those men know that if women use good common sense they will always be rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:35 PM
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To a certain degree many facets of personality like sense of humor, optimism, or depression, may not be changeable, but how someone interacts with other people certainly is changeable. I constantly hear single men complaining about being lonely because they are too dark or edgy or sport-obsessed or non-socializing, etc. What it truly means is that they are too lazy to go looking for women with similar matching personalities or worse absolutely refuse the attempts of their friends and family to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:17 PM
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Women are not turned on by seeing a fit, attractive man's body Speaking as a woman, you are totally incorrect. I find attractive male bodies quite arousing. The fact that I don't act on that arousal unless the man is my husband is because of religious beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:43 PM
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Men in my and younger generations might be less rude but they can’t and won’t do shit, and still expect women to serve them IMHO, the men in my and younger generations aren't less rude. Many of them are far worse than their grandfathers who were raised in a world where etiquette put much tighter regulations on how men could act and how they could speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:43 PM
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The misogyny and the stupidity. Most modern men have had incredibly easy, pampered lives. They lack critical thinking skills. They are just over entitled spoiled, children of larger growth. Now the men of my grandfather's generation had sexism issues, though quite honestly I don't think they were any worse than the current generation, but they understood the reality that most things in life have to be earned. They understood that relationships require trade-offs and that yes, men below the top 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:09 PM
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Because compliments are worthless. Compliments don't pay bills or add money to my Roth IRA. Listening to some guy's compliments are a waste of her time and an insult because the guy always expects to be "appreciated" for compliments (i.e., listening to his worthless prattling wasting time she could spend reading, studying, working, or interacting with some guy who could be a potential friend or husband).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:58 PM
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Those women are not watching "toxic" media. They are getting good life advice on how to deal with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:51 PM
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• Paying for first dates Absolutely, I require a man to pay for first dates and all dates after that until marriage. • Buying flowers weekly without asking No, I don't like flowers that much. I expected both my husbands to pay for my wedding bouquet because that is traditional. • 'Sidewalk rule' Absolutely, I'll protect my son, but not my husband. • Opening the door for her always Yes, for me and anyone else who happens to be there. It's part of being polite. However if my husband is carrying so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:57 PM
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You know that men can respect you and appreciate you as a whole person, while also finding you sexually attractive, right? That's not how most men act. So given all this, why do you automatically feel objectified and degraded by a man's sexual attention? Because I believe sex is only for marriage, and this is damn obvious by the way I dress and act, so unless he is actually my husband any form of sexual attention is an insult because it implies he believes I will violate the moral code that defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:50 PM
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In rough areas, the bad boys can possibly provide better protection than the wimpy "good guys". If money and/or resources are scarce, the best class of bad boys are able to support their families by whatever means is necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:44 PM
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Women don't have any actually privileges in current society. We are slightly less abused, but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:38 PM
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Where did you get the idea I am doing that? Because unless you are living in some extreme rural location where the popular density is below 5, there are simply too many single women looking for husbands for you not to have found someone unless you are purposely rejecting potential women who are you're equal in order to fantasize/chase women out of your league or refusing to make decent effort. Average woman = vastly? For the bottom half of the male population, yes, an average woman is vastly abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:58 PM
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You need to look harder and not chase women vastly more attractive or socially active than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:11 PM
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Absolutely. I would prefer a guy who had zero sexual experience provided it was far the right reason (i.e., a moral choice, not lack of options).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:09 PM
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The reason why a person has no relationship experience would determine whether or not it is a red flag or not in my opinion. Some people get trapped in isolated areas because of their families or their jobs where dating isn't easy or possible. Investment in education can also be isolating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:08 PM
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Women have those freedoms because women fought them. Some men were our allies. The good men were our allies. And there were also plenty of weak men who knew that their only survival would be finding women strong and smart enough to help keep them alive. And Purple Pill Debate is overwhelmingly biased towards men. The misogynist garbage most of you guys spout would have your grandfathers saying, "No wonder those guys can't get women how pathetic."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:18 PM
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Bullshit. Men only chase women who project a completely artificial mimic of femininity and most of you are only interested in women who will have sex before marriage. If some women only chase the top men, it's because catching one of them is the only way to mentally justify the pain and suffering women have to endure in order to be considered attractive. Women don't reject men with actual values (we spend our lives searching for such men), but we do whole-heatedly reject trash men who try to exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:40 PM
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Only because even fewer men have values.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:58 PM
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I do know plenty of men who bent over backwards for their spouse, either stopping their hobbies altogether because their wife didn’t like them, not seeing their buddies anymore because their wife didn’t like them, or being forced into activities they hated because that’s what their wife wanted. Is this what you’re suggesting? Pass. I am suggesting that those men should have chosen better and found a woman to marry that would support their hobbies, not mind them seeing their bodies, and either en…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:15 PM
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I see lovely women on the arms of trolls everywhere in Texas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:04 PM
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I discovered a passion and a real talent for fixing vintage vehicles years ago, do you think it will buy me any goodwill from women? If a woman likes vintage vehicles, she would probably be greatly interested in you at least until she finds out you're a red piller. That's the thing. Not every improvement is going to appeal to every woman. You have to concentrate on either finding women to whom your improvements appeal to or making the improvements the women you want find appealing. Most men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:00 PM
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Taking a shower and using deodorant is not a ton of good effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:36 PM
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Only if they are hot and slutty. I've spent too many years trying to get my brothers and male cousins to consider nice women only to see them reject women who would have made them happy to chase highly promiscuous, absolute bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:36 PM
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This is common sense. Look at the average man’s wife. Most men can’t get a conventionally attractive or fit woman. That's because most men aren't conventionally attractive or fit. The average man gets a wife vastly more attractive than him which is disgustingly unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:33 PM
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No one is obligated to date anyone. However, men, especially low tier men, who constantly complain about being lonely and then refuse to partner with women who would accept them deserve scorn. They need to either wife up or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:29 PM
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I think most men already do because they look for loyalty, caring, low n-count, honesty, etc. That's complete bullshit! Most men only care about how hot she looks (so their friends will be impressed) and how fast she'll fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:12 PM
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A true nice guy wouldn't, but a true nice guy wouldn't have sex with a woman until after they were married (and he wouldn't ask a woman to marry him without knowing he could provide for a family), but most of the men claiming to be nice guys aren't that guy. Most of the men claiming to be nice guys would like nothing more than to pump and dump women, but they just never get the chance because they are so undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:07 PM
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Most people who aren't attractive or social just want someone to "accept them as they are" which is where the problem lies. The problem is men who aren't attractive or social demanding women who are attractive and social to "accept them as they are" rather than seeking a woman who also isn't unattractive or social who actually would "accept them as they are."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:53 PM
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Why would anyone enter into a relationship with someone whose physical appearance they can't stand, or who isn't fun to be around just because they're moral? Because she can work on making him more attractive and improving his conversational skills. Women call these guys fixer-uppers. Some women, the women that aren't extremely attractive themselves or have other dating problems, if they see enough potential in a man will do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:20 PM
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The "nice guy" needs to stop whining that nobody's dating him because he's virtuous, and put energy into being a more fun, interesting, outgoing, version of himself if he wants dates No. The nice guy (if he actually is one, most men who claim to be nice are more toxic than self-admitted "bad boys") just needs to stop chasing party women and pay attention to actual nice woman who have values.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:23 PM
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Men are perfectly capable of finding plain women hot. Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Outside of some Amish, most men have no idea what a plain woman looks like. Plain women are called bull dykes in an insulting manner and face horrendous abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:14 PM
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Bullshit, Men don't "let" women have the right to defend ourselves. Women won that with our blood. Women won the legal right to have abortion in the United States and women are still the major fighters in the battle to keep abortion legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:08 PM
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Bullshit. If women are able to live freely it's because women fought to defend themselves and other women from male sadism and enslavement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:01 PM
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They certainly aren't leeches in a world where women must spends thousands of dollars and thousands of hours in order to be attractive to men. Men should financially compensate women for all the sacrifices we have to make for their goddamn egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:58 PM
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Yes, if men want children or a man wants to be with a woman who wants children. Unfortunately, because of biology women have to risk their lives to have children. Men should have to risk their financial quality of life in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:48 PM
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My experience and the experience of all the women I know well has been the exact opposite. Attractive men are almost always better partners. They have better personalities (manners and kindness) and understand the time and effort women have to put into our appearances. Of course, all the little goblins on this board are going to start shrieking "Of course, they are nice, people have always treated them better." Well, the same is true for attractive women (it's easy to be kind and good when the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:44 PM
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Women read romance novels because it fulfills an emotional need. Men watch porn because it fulfills an emotional need for them No, we read romance novels as escapist fantasies, not for emotional satisfaction. The idea of men having an emotional need for porn really lowers my opinion men. Are you telling me men would rather fuck some girl who starfishes than a chick who takes it up the ass and swallows? Depends on the man. Some men do have the fantasy of "starfish sex" or sex with an unconscious …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:29 PM
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Most women know romance novels are not reality just like the average science fiction fan knows we don't have colonies in space (yet). Women read romance novels for the same reasons men enjoy porn. You guys know porn does not reflect most real sex lives, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:57 PM
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Because guys that convincingly look like trouble are good for scaring off guys that actually are trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:55 PM
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Plenty of women don't love bad boys. The whole concept of "women love bad boys" is just a lie that pathetic men tell themselves and anyone who has to listening to their whining. Loser men whine that "women love bad boys" to deny that what women don't love is inferior men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:53 PM
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It's really sad how delusional some of you incels are. I suppose if that's what helps you sleep alone all those nights, it is cruel for me to remind you of the actual world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:30 PM
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I live an ordinary life in the Southern United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:08 PM
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Bullshit! Men don't even date women who aren't anorexia victims. Plenty of women stay with their fat boyfriends or husbands, but men will divorce their wives if they are ten pounds overweight after giving birth to twins. And if a women who likes to hook up (be advised that plenty of women do not hook up with anybody) doesn't hook up with a fat guy, it's because of a lot of other factors than his weight. Fat guys with good personalities can hook up easily with women who want to hook up. Now fat g…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:02 PM
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There are many examples on social media of men showing interest in fat women. Name one where the women is actually fat rather than just a size 14.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:57 PM
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That is so much bullshit. Women are considered "fat" if we are anything other than emaciated. Fat guys with fit women are so common, it's impossible not to notice dozens of them throughout any given the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:55 PM
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Yep, as dudes we learn we have to settle. Everyone below the top 0.01% of the population has to settle. Women usually know by the time we are ten years old we have to settle for the guy we think will hurt us the least and we always have to settle for far less than we are worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:54 PM
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Bullshit! Men who refuse to treat women with human decency are abusers. End of statement. Men just don't like being held accountable for their evil behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:05 PM
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Only in an evil universe is stating the truth that men who abuse women deserve to die alone considered misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:56 PM
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Pathetic male lying complex. Most men don't try to understand women's pain because they know they are the reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:38 PM
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Women's lives are a level of torture men don't experience outside of extreme environments like prisons. No woman is coddled. Some are treated with slightly less violence if they provide sex, but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:48 PM
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Women have to completely remake our appearance in order to conform to current beauty standards. This means starvation. From the time I was 12 until I was 34, I never once left a meal table not suffering from hunger pains. It means incredible amounts of money wasted on uncomfortable often dangerous clothing and make-up. It means hair and nail care, expensive and often dangerous. It means never getting to enjoy the things we like because because of the time spent entertaining entitled male asshole…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:05 PM
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Then most men are going to spend the rest of their lives alone. had to invest overwhelmingly upfront just to be considered worth spending time with This is exactly what 99.9% of all women have to do in order to get a man to spend time with them. Suck it, buttercup. If we have do this, so do you, and the cost of a typical date is nothing compared to the cost of conforming to the current beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:45 PM
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You know nothing about women and our lives. We are the first to be used and abused, considered valuable only for our sexual appeal. Men don't care about women unless they see it as an opportunity to fuck us. Women build friendship and networks with other women because we know we can't rely on men for anything. If men in some Western societies won't care about other men, that's the world they made with their toxic masculinity and they fully deserve that loneliness and isolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:41 PM
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I would say your ideas your ideas are going to leave most men alone and miserable. Planning and paying for dates is the only opportunity most men will ever get to impress a woman enough for him to be considered worth the effort. Women can grow attracted to men that don't instantly interest us. We can love ugly guys if they show us enough love in return. But unless a man looks like a walked off the cover of a romance novel, we are not going to spend all the money and effort necessary to be attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:58 PM
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I often felt like that when I was younger; then, I learned how evil many men were.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:01 AM
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I think you really haven't been listening or thinking about what the men you are around say about women or the way they act toward women. A lot of men have blinders on about the other men who they consider their friends. Every man knows that other men, strange men, do horrible things to women, things that are evil and wrong, but they never want to admit that that those men aren't any different from the guys they hang out with all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:39 PM
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My experience in over two decades of dealing with men is that the assholes I have just described is that over 75% of all men are that way. Most of the other 25% just don't think they could successfully pull an emotional con off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:27 PM
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Depends. It depends on how well I know the person and what the situation is. For example, if you were one of the asshole misogynists who say I shouldn't get upset after a man tries to rape me and you start crying in front of me because your dog died, hell, yes I'll say you are a whiny, bitch ass loser right to your face in front of as many witnesses as possible. Hell, I'll say your dog is better off without you and probably died trying to commit suicide to get away from you. The truth is chances…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:12 PM
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Part of being an adult is knowing to reach for help before reaching that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:46 PM
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If it's something ridiculous that a grown man should be able to handle without crying or needing someone to talk to, I absolutely lose all respect for a man that does this. Something serious like PTSD, I would do whatever I can that doesn't break the law or my moral code to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:13 PM
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I am a normal woman. I have to dress office formal at work, but my religious beliefs (Orthodox Jew) value modesty. I wear a head covering and a wedding ring. Men should realize a woman dressed like me does not want any reference made about her appearance EVER.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:14 PM
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I hate compliments by men. It makes me very angry when it happens. It means some man is gawking at my physical appearance and ignoring my personality and mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:03 PM
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I know cheating with another women would cause infinitely more pain. If I caught him cheating with a man, I would think, okay he's gay or bisexual and this is just something I could never give him, and we could divorce rather easily. Probably even become casual friends afterwards. Cheating with another woman, that's rejecting me personally, not my anatomy, and my mission in life becomes to destroy his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:41 PM
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In many cases I don't consider it my place to judge because I don't know the woman's full history and I know the world can sometimes be a very cruel place. For a young woman, the facts are, she can usually have more children. and she may need the man for survival. And I fully support a young widow giving her children to her late husband's relatives and moving on with her life, if that is what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:18 PM
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Once again a misogynist finds a way to blame women for all his inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:43 PM
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Why would women be going on dates that she doesn't think she will enjoy? That defeats the purpose of dating. You are acting like women are forced to suffer through dating, but they aren't. Women are also excited for dates and want to spend time with men they are attracted to. Are women not supposed to value a man's time either? Women go on dates they don't enjoy because it's what we have to do to find a partner. Plenty of women suffer through dates and most men aren't exciting or attractive. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:35 PM
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Girl if u suffering when dating, have u considered dating is not for you? I actually hated dating and would have preferred a straight forward matchmaker introduction with a few interview sessions for compatibility in order find a husband. However men insisted on the goddamn dates before marriage. If it's so important to a man, but a woman absolutely hates it, the man should pay the entire cost. This is not even counting that the cost of getting ready for a date is FREE for most women. They wear …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:22 PM
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She isn't commodifying herself into something that can be bought. She's expecting the man to be a gracious host and she is expecting to be compensated for all the time and effort (almost always more expensive than the cost of the date) she has to suffer through in order for the date to happen. An action being a social norm does not mean they will never change. And it HAS changed, with almost 50% of women believing that they should split the date (depending on which survey is cited). Some women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:58 PM
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No, it's about men who think they are entitled to women's company without offering anything in return. But the women who expect to be paid for never actually say this before the date. They never say “In full transparency, I expect you to pay for this date. If you do not pay I will not go out on a second date with you, and there will be no chance of hooking up even if I liked you, because you did not pay. Only a guy with severe autism (to the point where he could function outside of an institutio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:45 PM
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First off, women who date "transactionally" want a considerably larger fee than a mediocre meal and entertainment. Is it ok that a woman does not want to continue seeing a man because he didn't pay for a date? A woman should never pay anything for a date. The fact that she is spending her time with a man (at great potential risk to herself if she is alone with him) is something he should be grateful about and pay all the costs of the date. Any man who hesitates to pay the cost of date is not hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:59 PM
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But if that’s the case, why is it acceptable for women to vent to their partners whenever they want? If a man were to say, “I don’t want to be your emotional support system, go tell a therapist,” he’d be labeled cold, dismissive, or even abusive. Since when has this ever been the case? Women learn usually by the age of 14 that males are absolutely useless for emotional support. We learn to rely on other women for that or occasionally gay male friends because we know heterosexual men aren't going…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:52 PM
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The guy that could read. I can earn a living for my family if I have to, but I can't live (or be remotely sexually aroused) without intelligent conversations with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:33 PM
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I could easily find an illiterate man attractive, but I am not going to date or marry a man just because I find him attractive. I could never date or marry someone who was illiterate. I value education and literacy is one of the necessary basic educational tools.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:45 PM
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I am puzzled at how they can't see the correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:52 PM
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No, I like penis-in-vagina sex as long as long as its safe (i.e., serious birth control with abortion as a backup). Lately my anxiety is growing over the safety of abortion, but I find comfort in having good plans of how to get to another state or out of the United States should I need an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:53 PM
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Most men don't beat their wives. Most men don't cheat. Enough of them do that it's something women have to always keep in mind in dealing with men. If a woman is a murderer victim, it's usually at the hands of her partner. Most men go to work every day. But do they use their earnings support their wives and families happily is the important question. Plenty of them don't and it takes a iron-clad pre-nuptial agreement to keep the relationship equal. Why would you marry someone you didn't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:44 PM
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Average men have all the complaints they have today because the REFUSE to marry average women and treat their wives decently. You know, not beating their wives, cheating on their wives, actually earning a living or agreeing to be a full-time house husband. I think most men only care about fucking because it's self-evident. It's the only thing most men care about in dating and marriage is sex. Women will stay in a marriage without sex. Men won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:01 PM
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The red-pill is about abusing woman. I am a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:49 PM
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It depends on a woman's situation. If she's living in a dangerous place, absolutely, she will choose the masculine murderer who could possibly protect her and their children over the socially awkward nerd who will be dead the first time he encounters a trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:39 PM
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Almost all women have substantially more things of value such as the opportunity to a have a true, life companion who is a honest, caring partner. Most men don't value those qualities. Most men only care about fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:35 PM
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I think your type is probably rare, but not likely to be as dangerous to women as the typical hetero- or bi-sexual male.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:20 AM
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Women who get involved with criminal men usually do so because the other alternative men are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:58 PM
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What is a "aroace" man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:56 PM
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It demonstrates that plenty of men, plenty of men on this board especially, think that having a girlfriend or wife should be free for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:00 PM
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Read a lot of the posts on this very board. Plenty of guys here think they shouldn't have to pay for anything on a date or spend money on their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:38 PM
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Most men are too cheap to want to pay escorts over and over again. What they want is free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:25 PM
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Better mental health for low-income people would probably help. More job training for all ages along with better working conditions and the living wages, but this should be available to both genders. The truth is the "male loneliness epidemic" is self-inflected. These shlubs just need the proverbial "hard beating until it sticks" by the rest of society that they are not little gods and if they want a wife and friends they actually have to be a decent person and contribute to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:16 PM
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Men can get food stamps to help feed their kids if their mother disappears or something, just the same as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:54 PM
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Women do not have support structures everywhere in our society other than the ones women have built for themselves (our family and friends). If men want more support structures than they need to fucking work and build them rather than expect women to do the work for them. Men get called incels when they whine that they are not allowed to rape and enslave women. In actuality they should be called infinitely worse for those evil desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:53 PM
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You need to get out of the red pill misogynist fantasy world and interact with real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:29 PM
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"Women!! Women!!!! I really really want a partner. I really really want a partner. OMG I want one so badly and I don't have one. It sucks so much!!" Married Female Friend: Come to dinner. I'll introduce you to my nice cousin. She's a teacher and looking for a husband. Male in the Quote Above: No! No! She's ten pounds overweight! I don't want a fat cow like that for a wife. I don't want any wife. I just need a woman to fuck me and pay for a pizza as she leaves. The above is based on hundreds of r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:42 PM
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Abortion rights have everything to do with male female relationships. Without free access to abortion, a woman basically has to live celibate and stay fully on guard against any possibility of rape. That means no dating, no boyfriend, no husband. Any time a woman encounters a man, she has to be assume he could be a dangerous predator that she may have to use lethal self-defense in order to protect herself from reproductive slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:32 PM
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Men only help and support woman because they want to fuck us. That's not the same as actually being a good person or a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:25 PM
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The "male loneliness epidemic" is a popular lie of misogynist. If a man is alone, it is completely his choice. He is alone because he has rejected countless people and communities who would have befriended him and probably hundreds of women who would have married him and if financially possible had a family with him. All men have to do to have strong vibrant families and communities, is don't be fucking abusive jerks. HOW GODDAMN DIFFICULT IS IT TO UNDERSTAND DON'T RAPE AND ABUSE WOMEN? Apparent…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:22 PM
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I have a sister who would probably love to use that line.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:00 PM
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Haven't you noticed the way men foam at the mouth rant over the fact that women can buy vibrators?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:58 PM
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Absolutely, this is a lovely rebuttal to the "If she did it with an ex, she should do it with me." Absolutely, men if her ex did something for her or let her do something to him, you should absolutely be willing to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:25 PM
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Bullshit. I am polite to everyone unless they act like an asshole (then they deserve a rude response). Most women are polite. It's something we are taught from an early age. And iI have been repeatedly rejected by ugly men for not being pretty enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 02:01 PM
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No, none of the women my cousins rejected were unattractive. All my cousins all agreed those women were definitely attractive enough for them to want to have sex with, but the women were not attractive enough to be considered for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:57 PM
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The personality is B.S. for women because all men care about is how a woman looks. Personality is important for men because a woman will give an ugly man a chance especially if she is average looking herself as long as he treats her well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:58 AM
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The average, fat slob of a Western man certainly doesn't act like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:55 AM
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I never got more than one or two matches a year on dating sites. Ugly women are ignored on dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:50 AM
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The men that are walking away from dating are the ones we never wanted in the first place. Don't let the door hit your back side on the way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:48 AM
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Beauty standards have gone way beyond darwinian evolution. Evolution favors some body fat on women for survival and fertility. The silhouette so many men want now is a woman so undernourished she might not be capable of having a menstrual period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:46 AM
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You're the delusional one. Men aren't even held accountable for picking up the check on the horrible dates they insist on creating. Being a woman is living with a target on your back 24/7. The closest a man will get to living like a woman is being thrown out into the Rec Yard of a prison. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:42 AM
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I set up plenty of profiles for my male relatives who are quite honestly below average. They have always gotten tons of matches (which they stupidly reject because the women are not "hot" enough). There are plenty of women out there looking for partners, but unless they look like a young Taylor Swift, they are ignored. If a man is alone, it's purely his own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:38 AM
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Men have been setting standards for what a women is for all of recorded history. It's time men actually got held to some standards other than just have a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:34 AM
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but women who say that for them attraction is something of a slow burn also say they won't actually engage with any man that doesn't fit this slim margin of instantly physical attraction. why is that? You are misunderstanding (probably deliberately) what women have been trying to explain to you. Women are different and we have different ways we go about considering men. Women with whom attraction is frequently a slow burn usually don't look for instant physical attraction. We have wide range of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:29 AM
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Dieting? Y’all created a whole movement to accept you aka body positivity It's a movement and it hasn't been very successful. If men don’t approach you and you want to meet men, get up and do it. Asking a woman out is the absolute minimal standard of courage a man has to have in order to considered a man or a human being in my opinion and I am not going to date someone I find contemptible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:23 AM
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Exactly. Men are finally being treated with maybe one-tenth or less of dismissal and hatred they have always heaped on un-attractive women and they howl like babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:16 AM
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Men are not remotely affected by dieting/weight management, hair care, and clothing to the extent women are. A fairly ugly man as long as he is clean and does basic (not necessarily stylish) grooming will be dateable and marriageable to the majority of women as long as his personality is not horrendous. Average women are rejected by below average men all the time. To be dateable most women have to project a completely artificial image and perform fake feminine behavior constantly. It's expensive…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:11 AM
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Women have to do so much (dieting, make-up, hair care, uncomfortable clothing, etc.) in order for men to want to engage with us that often it is just not worth all that time and effort unless there is some serious potential in the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:02 AM
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Not really. I think outside of ethical fortitude, the two most important factors in whether or not a woman cheats are how well a man treats his wife and how much the women likes sex. Some women would never cheat, and I suppose ultimately I am in that camp (I've thought about, but rejected the idea), but that's because of the same principles that won't allow me to rob banks. Other people have more flexible consciences. From what I've observed from a multitude of female friends for most women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:58 PM
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Laughs out loud. Have you been reading any of my earlier comments? All these women are conservative Christians, Jews or Muslims. The women you would consider feminists are either faithful or they get divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 09:31 PM
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Lying by omission is deliberating withholding information or censoring answers in order to not reveal the truth. Choosing not to spread gossip (even if the gossip is information that is true) about friends and neighbors is a completely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 08:55 PM
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It says that I understand that people have moral failings and I don't abandon my friends. Do I approve of their adultery? Certainly not and I have told them that when asked. Would I answer honestly if asked about what I have observed? Yes, I do not lie. However, I do not feel it is necessary or conductive to the health of their families or children to broadcast such information to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:17 PM
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That's what all the housewives I know who cheat do, especially if it's with guys in the trades.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:34 PM
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They are more likely to be stay at home moms so statistically they would have less opportunity Actually being a stay-at-home mother is one of the ultimate opportunity situations for having an affair. Most of the women I have known who had affairs or just a lot of hook-ups, used that huge block of time when the children were away at school to meet with their lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:07 PM
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Liberals don't just wing life doing whatever they want. Most are very ethical people who are quite concerned about hurting other people unlike a lot of conservatives. Religion doesn't give people better morals just more opportunities to break a lot of rules in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:03 PM
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No conservative men have a higher chance of being misogynistic control freaks whose wives want to cheat on them whether they (the wives) enjoy the sex or not because it's revenge and a way of humiliating their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:00 PM
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From my experience, conservative women, unless they secretly have a wild period where they do a lot of sleeping around before marriage, cheat the most. Liberal women have a lot more sex before marriage, but once they are ready to get married, they usually want to just have sex with the person they marry. Conservative women have different pattern. There's something about waiting for marriage to have sex, denying your desires so long, that makes someone want to commit adultery especially if their …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:57 PM
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Autistic men with a formal diagnosis, no. Once I explained the rules I have about dating I never had a problem with an autistic men who had an actual professional diagnosis of autism. It's the self-diagnosis guys that are problems. They were always assholes. I suspect they were using the description of being autistic as an excuse for their horrible behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:13 PM
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Because chances are all he is interested in is "getting into her pants" which means he has ceased to be her friend and becomes just one more guy looking for casual sex. If a man really loves a woman, he doesn't say "I love you", he says "Will you marry me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:48 PM
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As a former nerdy/unpopular girl whose only friends were similarly nerdy/unpopular girls, I can assure you, we would have LOVED to socialize and date the smart guys who shared our similar nerdy interests. The nerd/awkward guys insulted us worse than the fucking jocks however and spent their time begging for the attention of the cheerleaders, drill team, pep squad, etc. A
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:49 PM
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Of course, no one is admitting the truth that if when those men were in high school, they had paid attention to the high school girls who were their female equivalents (nerdy, not so good looking and unpopular) they could have had plenty of fun dating and socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:39 PM
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I guess I'm going to have to say submissive though I believe relationships should be egalitarian. I have never met a man whose judgement was better than mine and I definitely don't believe either of my husbands were/are smart enough to be making important decisions about our family.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:45 PM
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It would depend on why. If she's creating interesting content that I could reasonably see a non-sexual reason he's following her, I would be fine with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:42 PM
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Considering how basic food is to survival and the enjoyment of food is to emotions, YES. Imagine living your life ingesting only bland mush while all around you there was delicious. luscious food that other were happily enjoying. Imagine no family dinners or social events that you could enjoy. Imagine being unable to ever take pleasure in eating. The standard healthy diet leaves many women "overweight." I would have to subsist on a diet of 800 calories or less per day in order to keep my weight …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:25 PM
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The average woman will get asked out by multiple men, the average woman can receive countless matches on dating apps (doesn’t matter if they’re quality or not—they’re evidence that she’s attractive), No, that's evidence that men will approach any available women looking for sex regardless of whether or not they are care about her. It does nothing for a woman's self-esteem to be reminded that the first (and in many cases only) thing men care about is using her as receptacle for their ejaculations…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:16 PM
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The average woman is constantly bombarded with affirmations that she has value as a romantic partner. The average women is constantly told she is worthless and can only be made "acceptable" to men by constant work and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:12 PM
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Guess what? time and time again, inevitably shows that small, skinny women have BY FAR the greatest optionality with men. Water is also wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:56 PM
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Luigi Mangione killed the CEO of an insurance company whose coverage denials have resulted in at least tens of thousands of deaths and millions of people suffering. Plenty of people consider him a fucking folk hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 03:58 PM
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The ones that are successful at hiding their selfish intentions can last for years and multiple women and multiple marriages. The ones that aren't good at hiding it call themselves start describing themselves as incels or red pill after a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:16 PM
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I think it's all bullshit that loser men use to deflect from the fact that women don't want them because their bad men. Women want decent men that care about their partners and who will treat them as human beings not sex slaves and house hold servants. Unfortunately, too many men can't reach this standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:05 PM
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If abortion were as easy to get as aspirin or a condom, I would actually be in favor of men being able to "abdicate" a pregnancy or a "paper abortion". No one should be forced to be a parent. Unfortunately, that isn't the world most of us live in. As long as woman are potentially stuck with their bodies being used to grow babies they don't want, men are stuck with supporting children they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:18 PM
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And once I check that one all of a sudden everything will change because that's how the world works Only the most superficial of women who will leave when your looks fade or she gets a better offer. You would do better to choose a better quality of woman and pick one that doesn't prioritize physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:58 PM
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It depends. I think couples need to talk these things out before commiting, reach an agreement, and actually try to stick to that agreement. I'm opposed to most visual porn on religious grounds (it's two or more unmarried, not modestly dressed people having non-kosher sex, so it's forbidden), so both my husband had to give up that kind of porn, or at least do a damn good job of hiding any use from me. But they knew this getting into marriage with me. My first husband wasn't Jewish, so he also kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:55 PM
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And it's not likely the reason you think. Looks are a minimal thing if the man is a good person. The problem is most men aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:45 PM
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Keep repeating your delusions if it helps you sleep alone. Average women want average men, but average and below-average men reject average women in favor of the fantasy supermodels will want average shlubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:38 PM
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If I had been born a man (I'm assuming heterosexual), I would have been happily married by the time I was twenty-two. That is what happened to every young man in my community who wasn't a known criminal. And even plenty of the criminal types got married young also.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:25 PM
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Women who are attracted to the "dark triad traits" are attractive, but usually aren't mentally health. They aren't the women who are going to sustain good long term relationships with anyone. Stop chasing them and concentrate on the good women whom you ignore, if you want a successful marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:00 PM
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The isn't a "single man crisis". There's a only a crisis of spoiled narcissistic men shrieking because they can't abuse women vastly better than them. If average single men would be willing to date average single women, those men would not be single long.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:43 PM
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You are delusional and have probably never even talked with a woman (only fans don't count) if you believe this. The majority of women want good men (actual good men not creeps who think holding open a door entitles them to sex). Unfortunately, we are usually forced to choose the lesser of evil choices. Those bad guys, especially in the case of the gang bangers, are often simple the lesser bad option, When people have only bad choices, most people choose the least bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:38 PM
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The guys (the shlubs and future incels) you are referring to were NOT the safer option. They were every damn bit as dangerous and potentially abusive, they were just more potentially bigger wastes of time. Women risk a lot in dating. The risk has to at least offer the hope potentially being worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:23 PM
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That's simply not a plausible scenario. It's like asking what if a man wants to marry a Martian, but can't find one. There are plenty of women who want to wait to have sex until marriage. All those genuinely good men would need to do to find wives is interact with other human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:19 PM
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This isn't some woe is me. This is advice because women have been clear that they find a man being a virgin a turn off and a potential indicator of an abuse nature. Except that is absolutely not true! Plenty of women are virgins looking for other virgins to marry. Virgin men who choose to remain virgins for moral reasons are highly desirable by women who choose virginity for the same reason. The only virgin men that are despised by women are the creepy ones that are bitter about not getting to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:23 PM
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I'm genuinely confused why you felt the need to share all this when this is basically common knowledge for any sex educated person. There are a lot of people on this board, especially men, for whom this is not basically common knowledge. What the hell do you think saying single men are single because they are misogynistic bigots who want to dominate means? Being truthful. There may be a handful of men out there, guys working at the Antarctica research area for example, that are single because of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:58 PM
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Bullshit! The "guy who wants to give her world" is lying. If he wanted to be that man, a good woman would have already chosen him. That guy is just looking for a victim and hasn't been successful at finding one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:32 PM
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Nah. It's very different for women to be virgins that it is for men. No it isn't. It's no different morally and not much physically Most women lose their hymens from regular physical activity well before their first sex. And even if they don't, if a woman bleeds it is because the man didn't wait until she was fully aroused before penetration. I know this because I was a virgin when I married and I definitely didn't have any bleeding or uncomfortable sex. A man who has sex no longer becomes a vir…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:29 PM
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No, that's not the case. Women choose the safest man they can find. The men you are trying to claim are "safer" men aren't any "safer" they are just bigger losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:10 PM
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That's really bad advice. It will discourage women who are similarly sexually inexperienced from wanting to marry those men. And if one of those men does manage to somehow get into a sexual situation with a sexually experienced women, she's going to ditch him fast for being a lousy lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:08 PM
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You think they should chose the most evil man to partner with? That's ultimate level sadistic misogyny. Women get into terrible situations of domestic violence because of lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:03 PM
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Women usually have to choose the least evil man to partner with. The misogynist who regularly have relationships with devoted partners are these men. He wasn't an ideal choice, but the other options were worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:40 PM
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Single men disdain single women because they are entitled bastards who refuse to accept that their problems of loneliness are purely a result of their misogyny and abusive behavior toward women. Single men hate single women because single men don't have the opportunity to abuse those women and it jeopardizes their fragile egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:30 PM
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Those men (still are virgins/never have had a relationship at like 30) aren't genuinely good men. They are bad men who only want women for sex, but haven't been successful at getting that. Genuinely good men stay virgins until they marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 05:49 PM
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I am sorry the truth hurts you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:33 PM
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Not really, it's just a matter of pairing men that aren't deluded psychopaths with women who have similar hobbies or fandoms. Now be honest, I've found the ability to appreciate each other's fandoms (preferably having the same fandoms) is the single biggest factor in whether too individuals with non-mainstream hobbies will thrive as a couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:30 PM
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Not really, basic polite behavior is all a man really needs to find a wife. It's just so rare to meet men that aren't depraved animals. Women's standards are more or less subterranean. Don't be an abuser. Be capable of communications. That's it basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:25 PM
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I've guided plenty of men to getting a wife without $1M on the line. The single most important factor is the man has to be willing to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:00 PM
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Its not a man searching out of his league Then he just needs to keep clean and go to places where there are women with similar interests. Fantasy book clubs and LOTR conventions would be a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:58 PM
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I would refuse to help him find a woman for the purpose of non-marital sex. That goes against my deepest moral beliefs. However, if he asked my help in finding a wife, I would teach him how to dress to accent his attractive qualities, get him a good haircut, and teach him about all the little toiletry issues that matter to most of the women I know: make sure to keep the fingernails clean, avoid bad breathe, etc.; then I would arrange for him to meet as many of the single women I knew who had som…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 03:40 PM
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You should have been more friendly to her and she would not have needed to spread rumors./s. Seriously, that's exactly what people always say to girls and women even when boys and men are spreading rumors about the girls that could potentially get them killed at the hands of male relatives. I lost several Bosnian Muslim friends to honor killings and that is a hell of lot worse than suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:19 PM
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Tom Brady is in the top 0.0001 percent (or smaller percentage) of the male population. He's not the average guy in terms of looks, social status, or income. At 40, Tom Brady probably has a chance of appealing to an 18 year old (though his money would probably be the more determining factor), but not Tom Average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:45 PM
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More like if all the options a woman has are jerks and she's desperate to be with someone, she will just choose the most attractive of the jerks. Situations like that aren't about the guy not being a jerk. It's a about lack of options, so the woman chooses the least bad. Yeah, that often comes down to looks (however comes down even harder to looks as the determining factor when men are choosing women), but a jerk who is attractive is the lesser evil to a jerk with no desirable qualities whatsoev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:31 PM
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Speaking as a former 18 year old, a 40 year old man is aging and decrepit to an 18 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:27 PM
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Most older men are still horndogs and those with ED become that fairly easily with medication. Millions of women who have a husband or boyfriend over 40 would vehemently disagree with you about that. Why do you think they are looking at younger women in the first place? They are trying desperately to convince the world their penises still work and that they are not the aging, decrepit old men they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:43 PM
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The incels have found other things to screech and whine about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:57 PM
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Well cats can’t sexually Neither can plenty of men, especially OLD men. Vibrators however are nearly 100% effective for orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:40 PM
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That's still too old. Even at 40 most men can't keep up with 18 year old sexually and the rest of his years are just a downhill slide to geezer-hood. And it's unfair for children to be stuck with a father so old.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:26 PM
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I would have chosen the 18 year old who I could grow old with by landslide over the favorite middle aged celebrity who would leave me a widow too early. In fact, I did turn down plenty of marriage proposals from older men when I was 18. The idea of sleeping with a man old enough to be my father was hideously disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:24 PM
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Absolutely, they are choosing to remains single rather than be stuck with a loser for a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:17 PM
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I would rather remain single and childless. I cannot fathom ever being able to orgasm with a man that much older than me. I would literally be nauseous every time he even touched me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:15 PM
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No, the women are usually settling for those guys who they are already fucking because those guys are unfortunately the best of the lot available to them. True, there may be other less sexually attractive men around, but those guys have the same disgusting misogynistic attitudes as the ones that can at least get them aroused. So when faced with the choice of an attractive jerk who can at least give them an orgasm versus an ugly jerk who physically repulses them, they choose the lesser of evils.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:25 PM
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Like that would ever happen. When boys commit suicide over bullying it is almost always other boys or adult men behind it. Female peers refusing to associate with a boy because of his disgusting behavior around them is not bullying. It's the just response to a disgusting human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:59 PM
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Quite the opposite. People who are self fulfilled are more likely to form good, healthy relationships as opposed to fall into toxic ones based on co-dependency.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:51 PM
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Expecting your partner to fulfill what you lack is the fastest way to be disappointed in marriage. You can't fulfill yourself through another person. That has to come from within and your own accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:37 PM
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Talk about psycho-babble. Marriages last because people are committed to being married to each other. "Bonding" (if such a thing even exists and I firmly believe it does not) is a useless concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 07:17 PM
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Lust won't sustain a marriage, so why care?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:58 PM
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There would be less fan girls (and fan boys, Luigi has a lot of gay guys attention, I am told), but killing a health insurance CEO is definitely going to get him fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:56 PM
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Looks and height are everything to todays' woman. They will f'n take a homeless druggie home and love and fuck him if he has the hot face and tall height. More men do the same thing and have been for centuries. You want to know why you see less homeless druggie females out there? Because if they haven't lost their looks they can more easily get men to support them and their habits. I know cops that have married former junkie hookers, meaning they knew what these women had done to support their h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:54 PM
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More men are celebrated for body shaming women. If a man feels hurt about being body shamed, he’s a misogynist who needs to reflect on his fragile male ego I absolutely agree with this (though I am sure you don't actually believe your statement is the truth that it is). Male egos need to be trampled to dust.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:47 PM
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Bullshit. Utter bullshit. Short men who are kind and moral find wives all the time. But they actually have to be kind and moral men, not short guys who think they deserve accolades just for being short.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:45 PM
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Women have been partnering enthusiastically with kind, decent men as often as possible whenever we have had the option to choose our partners. The problem has always been there just aren't many men who are kind and decent. There's a vast population of men who think just because they don't rape and abuse women in public they are "kind and decent" however. Those men are the problem and need to be eliminated from the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:43 PM
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Women have always said this. Men just refuse to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:01 PM
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The Prophetess Deborah from the Book of Judges, Golda Meir, Judith Resnik, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, my maternal grandmother who ambushed Nazi supply caravans during World War II, my namesake great aunt who received a direct commission into the Soviet Army because there were no more officers left alive to be the XO of her platoon and at least she was literate. There are others, but these are the first ones that come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 01:05 AM
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Because of the additional costs women have to endure in order to be attractive enough for men to ask us out, it only logically, morally, and ethically makes sense to me that men pay for the costs of dates. If when I was dating I could have gone out on a date at my natural weight (eating food I actually liked), without goddamn make-up or heels, with an easy-to-maintain short haircut, experiencing entertainment I actually liked, having conversations I actually enjoyed and that didn't bore me, I mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:38 PM
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It's a bad norm that should be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:20 PM
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The dating pool is better off without those men. Men like that don't deserve the company of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:07 PM
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Plenty of women would choose to remain single. Guys who don't pay on dates make selfish husbands who won't support their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:06 PM
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If you’re looking for a life partner in a monogamous, symmetrical relationship, it doesn’t make sense to start off with one person putting in more effort than the other by investing more money. I agree; therefore, men should pay fifty percent of the cost of their date's clothing and accessories, make-up, hair styling, beauty regime, and all other incidentals required for her to appear and perform the feminine routines that matter so damn much to men in dating. Until men start doing that, they sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:04 PM
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Hating the phrase doesn't make it not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:18 PM
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Another misogynist afraid of the truth. Enjoy dying alone and un-mourned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:16 PM
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Of course, a certain percentage of women did that. There are women now who do that, but men, especially the ones that whine on this board, don't seem to bother looking for those women. Instead, men throw hissy fits that all women aren't like those women or that they don't want those women because some other man has touched them. Men who are "having problems dating" want good women to be promiscuous for them instead of pairing up with the women who have already demonstrated their promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:07 PM
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I'm Jewish and with us, introducing an unmarried man to an unmarried women who could become a successful married couple, especially if they do actually end up together, ranks right up there along with saving a life in terms of good deeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:01 PM
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If the can't muster the courage to actually approach a woman politely, it's a good assumption that they are too weak and useless to do anything other than peacefully accept being "weeded out".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:47 PM
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I fervently disagree. It is not a disastrous result that so many inferior men are weeded out of the dating pool and will not have the opportunity to reproduce their inferior genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:59 PM
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The risk is part of the vetting process. If he can't take that risk, he is a coward that wouldn't make a good husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:53 PM
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Do women just point at any guy on a dating app and just go out with them, or do you think they picky as hell back in the 90s too and cautious. They aren’t going on dates with random men they want to have a choice and get a good look at them first, check the vibes. Are men doing this? Absolutely not. Everybody vets to a certain extent. However, random dating was certainly happening all the time in the 90s because vetting was more difficult. And in many subcultures in the United States (Jews, East…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:52 PM
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A woman would have no way to vette him online like today. She would have no cell phone to call for help, she would be too afraid to get kidnapped. It was very uncommon. Yes, it was very dangerous, but people did it anyway because that's what looking for a partner was like. That's why they met in public spaces. That's why women drove their own cars to the place or arranged for a taxi or ride. That's why they told their friends and family where they were going and to call them if they didn't call …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:34 PM
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Which has been a common trait for most of human existence not just now. Men have demonstrated throughout history that they do not want the average woman of their time. They want fake versions of femininity that have been starved, painted, and otherwise tortured to resemble the beauty idea of the upper elite. Women are finally wising up that men do not have the right to demand we torture ourselves for their benefit. No man who wants an average woman has trouble dating. There are millions of avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:27 PM
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Women didn’t just go on dates with random men partially to get free meals and maybe hookup. Bullshit! Utterly bullshit! Hunting for rich men and a woman getting as much as possible out of any man she dated was very much a 90s thing. In fact, it was considerably more pronounced than it is today because fewer women had lucrative jobs and the world was still riding the 80s decade of excess style.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:23 PM
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You didn’t have to buy her dinner and all her drinks to agree to it, she would just go hang out with you. Utterly a red pill bullshit fantasy. Buying her dinner and all her drinks was the minimum requirement to have a quality woman's company in the 90s. Sure there were someone women that would "just go hang out with you", but they were very slutty, very ugly. or looking for a green card.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:20 PM
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How would you do this without spending time with her already first, or meeting through social circles? I’m talking about modern dating where you can just keep dating endlessly at will, which doesn’t most the time function like the past. There was singles bars, that was the only tinder/instagram like thing before the internet. My older sisters got asked out on public transport, hanging out in the library, walking on the street, all over the place. The system was don't be alone with the guy until …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:16 PM
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In any city there were 100s of couples or people to compare yourself to. And to be frank, you still have to go out and meet someone to meet someone. And a lot of the "handing out" wasn't random. People went looking for other people and places they knew single people that shared their interests would be. Plenty of people used dating sites, classified, matchmakers (amateur or professionally, especially in the large eastern cities). There's a bit more technology involved now, but nothing has really…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:10 PM
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There is an above 0 chance he considered opening up a conversation with you, but decided not to due to being intimidated. Then he needs to get over being intimidated or prepare to die alone. The bar for men is low enough to be subterranean, but having enough courage to initiate contact is one of the minimum standards to be considered a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:05 PM
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People don't set each other up any more. If I tell any of my family members "I need a date for xyz" they will give me blank stares. I think that is more of comment on you as individual than the state of blind dating. It's very common among the rest of us. In my culture it's a good deed to introduce eligible men and women to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:59 PM
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Paying for a date for a woman you never met before was not commonplace. Now you're just red pill fantasizing. At least in the mainstream United States in the 1990s a man who did not pay for all date expenses was an instant pariah. He wouldn't have even kept his male friends if word got out that he was that cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:56 PM
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More like's willfully forgetting what life was life back then or extrapolating one small subgroup behavior for the larger society.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:53 PM
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No one I know that was a teen or young adult in the 90s would agree with you. People dated all throughout the 90s, more so than even today because the economy of was good and men weren't poisoned by the red pill misogyny yet. Blind dating was very common among my older sisters and cousins during the 90s. It was the literally the way many people met their future spouses. If you disagree, explain to me the function by which women would agree to go on random dates with men not connected to any soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:46 PM
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When people choose to wait until marriage, they often do have physical contact with each other kisses, hugs, anything that don't involve ejaculation, so the couple does get an idea of their partners likes, dislikes, and what they like. In arranged marriages, there is sometimes a lot of talking about sex beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:38 PM
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I have never heard a woman say that physically fit men are unattractive. You are the one lying with your initial premise. What some women do say is that being physically fit is not the only requirement for a man to be considered attractive unlike most men who are only concerned with how a woman looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:38 PM
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If the man blames his struggles on his looks/status, or makes any generalization about women, these hordes of women will also telling him that women can "sniff out his misogyny and inc*l mentality", and THAT'S the real reason why he's struggling. Those are some of the most reliable clues that guy is either an abusive rapist or a want-to-be abusive rapist. Particularly, there's also a thing called "code switching" humans do, where they adapt their language and behavior to their social context. Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:49 PM
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Don't blame others for your recklessness. Don't insult others to excuse your cowardice. Plenty of men have no problem beating women. In fact, they live for opportunities to hit women. That's why smart women learn to defend themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:37 PM
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It depends on how the women look. If the women are beautiful, they will get partners easily and go on live happy, wonderful lives as long as they are smart enough to control the financial aspects in their marriages, so the men can't afford to leave them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:10 PM
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For me, ABSOLUTELY NOT. I hate make-up, high heels, and feminine clothing. I fantasize about shoving high heels and make-up down the throats of the designers. I use and wear those products because women who are considered ugly women are treated brutally and abused in Western society. I wear those products for the same survival reasons soldiers in combat put on Kevlar and camouflage paint. They make it more easy to survive the enemy of male violence and depravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:41 PM
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⁠You are upper class. As a woman you need to birth the children, but the rest is not your problem. No, upper class women had to manage large staffs of servants and often were responsible for multiple houses and estates. They had help from upper servants (usually a butler and housekeeper or sometimes a majordomo) to whom some of the work could be delegated, but the domestic management was definitely their problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:32 PM
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The men here are so worried about women that they are demeaning to themselves saying no one will ever like them and how it’s society’s fault. They aren't not actually worried. If they were worried, they would change their behavior. They just want to transfer blame for their failure to society rather than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:14 PM
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I don't think interesting is important. Men just have to not be hate-able or annoying. I met with plenty of interesting men along the path of searching for a husband: special forces soldiers, a lot of doctors and guys with Phds. It was always a no go because their personalities were usually just horrible. Their arrogance and entitlement was off the scale. And they were absolutely clueless about what appealed to women and had no desire to learn. Unfortunately, non-interesting men were often just …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 02:11 PM
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Oh women were even more focused on what everyone thinks in the 1980s than women are today. Marriage was a serious lifetime decision. They wanted the absolute best possible husband available. Many were willing to travel to distant universities or jobs in order to get the maximum range of men to choose the best. The average guy may have eventually got an average woman, but she had sex with a lot of above average guys before him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:42 PM
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Women in general weren’t chasing the guys at the local yacht club like in fashion magazines. Actually they were. Marrying rich was all the older women in my community talked about and all they considered. Marrying a middle class man was what women expected to do at near 40 only after they had absolutely exhausted every chance, including using baby-trapping, as means of hooking a better class man. To be a housewife, unless their were to be servants to do the work, was considered failure and such …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:13 PM
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Very few people actually got to travel by airline in the past. To do so was considered an event that people dressed up to do. Now flying is just a mode of transportation, so people dress for comfort which trust me is better than being stuck on a plane in a girdle and heels. They didn't really take better care of themselves. They weren't photographed as often and according to my older relatives, plenty of people were slobs, we just don't have as many photos of housewives in curlers and dirty hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 09:04 PM
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The problem there is incomplete aspects of the sexual revolution. We need to keep fighting, not give up and return to the Dark Ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:57 PM
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Absolutely not, I heard first hand stories about how dangerous illegal abortions were and how women died because they couldn't get adequate birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:56 PM
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The polished 50s look you are seeing was only available to the upper and upper middle class. Average women didn't get professional manicures and bought clothes once or twice a year from since fashion stalwarts as Sears or Montgomery Wards. Plenty of women made their own clothes with varying degrees of talent. They might go to a beauty parlor, but not a salon or spa. And unless they were rich, women were scrubbing, cleaning, cooking, and caring for children all the time without help or the numero…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:53 PM
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The 1980s were not the 1950s. It was a very money centric time. My older sisters grew up during that era. Women were liberated and not expected to be housewives and most didn't settle unless they were 40 or over. Herpes and AIDs were known problems, but plenty of people didn't take them seriously, especially AIDS which was considered a disease of gay men. 1980s women didn't settle. They were the Yuppie women that wanted a high profile man with money, a lot of money and style. It took a lot of ec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:48 PM
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There are still a lot of obstacles for women to overcome. We certainly don't dominate every category yet. Look at the United States presidency, for example. We need feminism because the fight isn't over by far and men will always try to oppress us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:41 PM
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That's because women work hard to overcome our obstacles while men just complain and expect everything to be handed to them because they have a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:13 PM
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The solution would be for men enmass to be mandated to to shed patriarchal dating standards that women must be artificial Barbie dolls in order to be worthy of basic, decent human behavior. But they won't so we are here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:12 PM
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There are no laws in the United States against men being custodial parents except situations were fathers have proven to be unfit because they were raping and beating their children. Divorce courts award custody to the parent whose custody they feel is in the best interest of the child. Most often that is the mother because she has done most of the child care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:54 PM
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Geee I wonder how you decide if you want to invest the time to know him or not... Normal human interaction. It really is that simple. Men and women encounter each other everyday. Some guys seem unattractive at first, but if they act like human beings and not raping animals, they can, with shared interested and similar personalities, become more attractive and absolutely desirable over time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 03:23 PM
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The reason that show exists is how exceptional those women are as opposed to normal life where grossly overweight men with thin wives is normal enough to be seen at any public venue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:09 PM
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The bar is so low as to be subterranean. All a man has to do is not be hideously deformed (though there are more exceptions to that with hideously ugly men finding wives than with even plain women finding husbands) as long as he is a decent guy who respects women and treats women like human beings not fuckdolls, he can easily, easily get a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:07 PM
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Too many men abandon their kids when they abandon their wives is the problem there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:02 PM
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Sure, sweetie. Whatever helps you cope with the loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 02:00 PM
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I am talking about exactly that type of guy: rebels, usually social (or at least proper society outliers) outsiders, and they weren't always attractive, but immediate physical attraction isn't necessary for a woman to like a man after getting to know him. Character counts more with women and bad boys with integrity rank higher than "nice guys" who have none.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 01:57 PM
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I'm the voice of the truth. You're the one spewing misogynist crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:48 PM
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More like misogynists and other incels will do anything to avoid reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:41 PM
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What you never want to hear is the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:37 PM
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That is because such men are willing to make the effort to pursue women rather than sit on the sidelines and complain that no women are making themselves readily available for use.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 09:21 PM
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I suggest you look at who is sponsoring those studies and how they are conducted. Social science isn't like chemistry or physics. It's easy much easier to manipulate or create data.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:13 PM
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Those men prey on the naive and vulnerable and they are good con artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:10 PM
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There are thousands of opportunities for men to meet women in our current society. All a man needs to do is not be a creep when he interacts with other human beings. Very few people are living in little isolated areas with no contact with the outside world. Though I do believe there are specialized dating sites and match makers that connect people stuck in isolated environments. I met my first husband standing in line.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 08:02 PM
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A decent man even if he is ugly will find a partner. A normal woman will never get a partner unless she is willing to devote her life to maintaining an artificial and unreal of image of beauty in her appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:51 PM
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Denial is strong in this one. Men being dateless boils down to those men being jerks. Men have plenty of opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:29 PM
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Absolutely, in most cases. There are a going to be a few outliers, maybe family problems like having to care for much older parents or extreme poverty, but no truly good guy is going to be unpartnered past the age of 25 unless something tragic happened such as his wife dying. In which case, once he's dealt with his grief, finding a new partner won't be difficult. There are so few truly good men out there, he will be snatched up very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:29 PM
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Absolutely. Women try hard to avoid men who are abusive. Unfortunately, some abusers are better at masking their inner evil natures better than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:24 PM
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"Men struggling with dating are either actual abusers, or 100% would be abusers if they had the opportunity to do so." It's been my experience, yes, this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:22 PM
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Abusive men who get partners are usually good at masking or at least better at masking their inner evil than the men who are alone. All these whiners that shriek about being dateless need to realize the reason they don't have partners is because the image they present to the world is that of men who will treat women WORSE than the criminal elements and bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:40 PM
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so how do you explain all the non abusive men that are actual good people that have still never had a girlfriend at like 25? They are not actually good people and the reason they are "non abusive" men is simply because they have still never had a girlfriend at like 25. Lack of opportunity to rape and harm a woman is not the same as having morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:35 PM
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Denial is strong in this one. Male unwillingness to look at objective reality and correct their behavior is the reason so many women are checking out of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:06 PM
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I've never had a bad boy insult my appearance, ask me to pay for anything on a date, or pressure me for sex. Bad boys are by definition non-conventional. Sometimes they are non-conventional enough that they don't have all the horrific behaviors found in average, so-called nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:42 PM
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It's a real statement. Men basically have to not be highly abusive in order to get a partner. The fact that that so many men claim they can't find a partner is a measure of how many men are potentially highly abusive, not how many men are considered repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:36 PM
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No, she's a smart woman that knows not to waste her time and efforts on a man until he has demonstrated some proof of being interested and potentially worthy of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 05:06 PM
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His fear of offending/bothering women would make him more attractive to me. I (and most women on earth) want a considerate man that actually and sincerely tries not to offend us. However, he would absolutely have to gather up enough courage to approach me. It could be done through the most traditional means (a.k.a.,a formal matchmaker), in fact I would actually prefer that. However, the absolute, baseline minimum required to be a man, not a child, IMHO is to initiate contact. If a man can't do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:13 PM
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It addressed the point completely. Your list is complete bullshit written by a man who apparently wants to give other men very bad advice which will only leave them dying alone. If people don't make any effort, they never improve their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:29 PM
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That's a very long-winded way to say, you don't want to make any effort. Enjoy dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:01 PM
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I never got a date until I started wearing goddamn make-up, high heels, and uncomfortable female clothing. Every single date I ever had was because I costumed myself in this artificial idea of what a woman looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:31 PM
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My entire experience with men was this until I got very good at performing feminine behavior and I've always utterly hated it. It's one of the reasons I have such high standards for my husbands and to a lesser degree the all the other men I encounter is because if I have too much so much torturous effort in order to be considered a person, they damn well are required to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:17 PM
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Only misogynists consider my rational and equitable approach to men in anyway hateful. Too many men fly into hateful and violent rages because they're losing a few crumbs of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:42 PM
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Once again, chances are the women those men are describing as "average" aren't "average". Men will describe models and teen actresses as "average".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:03 PM
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Chances are more likely my son will grow up to be psychologically healthy and well adjusted. It's the boys whose mothers are too attached to them and who spoil them with unconditional love that become vile monsters as grown men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:47 PM
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I definitely don't want my life to be defined by my kids. Exactly, I love my son, but I worship G_d, not my offspring. There is something really wrong with people who think being a mother means a woman has to sacrifice everything or that being a parent is the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:43 PM
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My son has a mother and a father who love him, but don't worship him. We will raise him to be a moral and productive member of the human race. There is certainly nothing "poor" about that. My son is very fortunate to have parents that want him to be a good person first, not an extension of their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:30 PM
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Getting pregnant is easy and quite a lot of fun. Pregnancy, while uncomfortable, inconvenient and gross, doesn't require many brain cells just the will-power to tolerate your body being used. Childbirth is hell on earth, but I was blessed with the genes for quickish labor. Editing bad fan fiction, however, actually requires creativity and intellect. It's definitely more of an accomplishment to edit a zine than have a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:27 PM
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Bullshit. Too many children, especially boys, are spoiled brats and empathy doesn't just magically appear overnight once they reach a certain age. Boys need to be taught ethics and values from an early age and that they are not the center universe. They need to be taught that they are fellow human beings that are expected to treat other people with the same moral consideration they want from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:19 PM
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I see men deny the fact that they are looking for hot women all the time. They claim they just want the girl next door or the "average" woman, but when asked for specifics their definition of the "average" woman is someone who looks like a supermodel or a teen pop star.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:06 PM
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Having a son has made me so much more aware of how misogynistic many people are and more disturbed by the prevalence of mainstream open misogyny. Too many people literally consider the greatest accomplishment a woman can have is giving birth to a son. That's absolute bullshit! I love my son, but he's not the greatest thing in my life. He isn't even as much of an accomplishment as the last bad piece of fan fiction I've edited. I have far less sympathy for any men's issues as a result of motherhoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:44 PM
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Here are the facts. Men only care about women's looks to the exclusion of every other facet of our personalities. Women are justified in evaluating men by the same criteria. It's time men got equal treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:11 PM
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wrong, you assume women care what you think
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 06:03 PM
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So should men. If men weren't constantly chasing beautiful women vastly above them on the attractiveness scale and tried to be romantic with women similar to them, virtually all men would have partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:36 PM
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Women think quality not quantity. We do a lot of narrowing done choices first before making a final selection instead of trying every option because quite frankly most of us don't have the energy and resources to try everything. We narrow the field to what seems worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:35 PM
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you must admit that you are trying to find the hottest guy possible, And men on dating apps aren't looking to find the hottest woman possible. Seriously, looks are all men care about. Why shouldn't women evaluate them on the same criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:33 PM
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Children, especially until they are able to look after themselves, are a full time job. If a man wants a full-time mother for his children, he should be doing 50% of the housework, so his wife is not working two damn jobs as opposed to his one job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:12 PM
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Well, no man will ask any woman out less she is really attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:38 PM
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Nope, I have never, ever seen or heard of a woman who rejected someone for being a virgin. I have known a number of religious women (including myself) who rejected men for NOT being virgins however.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:34 PM
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I want my second marriage outcome to be as close as possible to the trajectory of my first marriage outcome (we were on track for being the old couple that give each other half their desserts) except I don't want my second husband to die young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:34 PM
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Getting an erection is one thing. Maintaining an erection long enough for sex is another. I've been married twice. Men need attraction even if it's on the most base level, to do the deed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:50 PM
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When it comes to fight and die feminists have no problem with sending sons, brothers, husbands and fathers to die? Well, if it is all they are good for. It wasn't feminist job then or now to be responsible for men. If the men of that era thought it was oh, so bad they got drafted and women didn't, it was their responsibility to take action, not sit around crying, "Why aren't the women doing everything for us," as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 06:01 PM
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It's important since the last time anyone was drafted in the United States women weren't included in the draft because they were considered second-class citizens barred from most work categories in the armed forces. Women weren't excluded from the draft because of feminism they were excluded out of male chauvinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:52 PM
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Irrelevant. There's nothing forbiden women against fighting in favor of it the same way every other issue, they don't and won't because they just want privileges Other issues were more important. Men certainly didn't think it was important enough to fight over. Factually incorrect, otherwise they would be advocating for segregate unities, what they don't. Segregated units don't protect women. Punishing male violence does which is what feminists do fight strongly for. >Women have proudly served t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:39 PM
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Feminist don't attack true leftist men. But there's a lot of posers out there who are actually misogynists and they deserve our full hatred un-throttled. Plenty of the men on that list did very wrong things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:09 PM
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Yeah, I thought it was fucking stupid, pathetic, and typical of misogynists cherry picking minor details to create a false narrative. The list of horrible things men have done to women is ten-million times longer and until men take responsibility for that evil and actively work against it, nothing is going to improve. Feminism exists because men do evil things to women. And if you boys don't like being called on your abusive cruelty, well too damn bad. Women are tired of being your victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 05:03 PM
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If you anti-feminist you are anti-woman. You are a misogynist and the enemy of every woman. Feminist don't attack good men. They attack men who want to harm women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:55 PM
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During the draft era, women fought hard, and they still have to fight hard, to serve in the military while men were running away like cowards. Back when the United States had a draft, it was the male chauvinists , not feminist who, are against women being drafted. When feminists have objections to the draft it's because of the rape culture and systematic misogyny that run unchecked in the United States military. Women have proudly served their country for generations only to have their male coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:32 PM
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Women have been taking on more than our fair of responsibilities for generations. We are fighting because we are sick and tired of men sitting around doing nothing while the world burns. Real equality would be men actually doing their fair share of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:24 PM
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You provided no context am I supposed to read your mind? Of course, you're a woman. Your suppose to do everything for any random man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:14 PM
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She also had zero legal responsibilities, as women do today. Bullshit. Women were still subject to the same laws as men though those laws usually discriminated against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:13 PM
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Red pill bullshit. Modern Feminism is the simple concept that women are human beings and therefore, entitled to be treated as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:10 PM
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You have no understanding what modern day feminism is about and told her a lot misunderstandings. Feminism is the simple concept that women are human beings who deserve the same rights and opportunities as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:09 PM
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Totally disagree, for the average man getting a partner mostly comes down to basic hygiene and asking a woman out. That's it. There are thousands of women looking for partners and the bar for male acceptability is subterranean.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:07 PM
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Bullshit, Not supporting feminism is attacking women. Men who tolerate misogyny are misogynists. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:04 PM
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It also has to be terrible for a person's mental health to just have random meaningless sex with dozens of people. I cannot even imagine the mindfuck that it causes in the long run. The mindfuck I went through realizing my first husband whom I loved dearly had slept with so many women before me was suicidal. Looking back, I realize it would have been better if I had taken a break between realizing I loved him and actually marrying him and had a lot of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:02 PM
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Since when has anyone in the United States been drafted?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:57 PM
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If you truly feel this way, then I'm sure you would have zero issues being sexually attracted to a weak, effeminate straight man...right? Back in my single days, if he was a good, Jewish man, I could have easily, delightfully married just such a man. I meet with several ultra-orthodox guys that definitely met this definition, but they wanted something sluttier than me. Before I get attacked, I'm not saying a man with a low number is weak or effeminate. I'm just saying that there is (and should b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:55 PM
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The double standard is sexist but the reality is those men are bragging about sleeping with women they aren’t attracted tooI I heavily disagree with you. Those men are bragging about being able to have sex with women without offering commitment. They were/are attracted to those women. They couldn't maintain erections if they weren't. So why would we encourage women to have casual sexual relationships with men who do not care about them? Some people. male or female, only want the physical pleasur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:47 PM
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As long as men are attacking women, feminism needs to attack men. Feminism is beautiful. It's also the only movement that actually works to protect women because we are human beings, not property of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:39 PM
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Because men don't care who she is or what she does for a living. Men don't care about her goals or her accomplishments or her earning potential. All men care about is how badly they want to fuck her. Maybe with younger men or men that are first generation middle class. Higher social status may have sex with women of a lower social class, but they rarely marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:03 PM
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Attracting a man and maintaining a relationship is a LOT of work for women and in having sex with a man we put our lives in danger, not to mention that sex with a man is more difficult to achieve orgasm than masturbating with a vibrator. A smart woman knows if she is going to be sexual with a man, it has to be worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:58 PM
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That's more or less what I tell all the young women I know. If he doesn't want to pay, don't date him, don't even talk to him in the future, and make damn sure you warn other women about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:19 PM
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If women are not entitled to food and entertainment on dates; then men are not entitled to date or in any way associate with attractive women. It's as simple as that. If you guys want us to spend so much time, money, and effort, essentially being tortured, in order to meet your ridiculous standards of "beauty", men can damn well pay for it. We women have already paid more than our fair share.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 01:56 PM
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If I had to split a check, I would never even have a conversation with a man or acknowledge the existence of any man outside my male relatives. Cheap men are the reason, most women don't want to give men a chance to talk to them. Dating is too damn expensive and time-consuming unless the guy at least provides for food and entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:33 PM
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A lot of 9/10 attractive people partner with someone who is a 3/10 if the money is good enough. It's basically the only logical reason for someone to invest so much money, time, and effort in achieving that level of attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:23 PM
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Because ethnicity and continuing faith and culture values are important to some people. Marriages have a stronger chance of surviving if the couple have common culture and values. Now I will admit my first husband was a different ethnicity and religion than me and we had a good marriage, but it was a thousand times harder because of our differences. And we probably wouldn't have survived if he had any sincere belief, or quite honestly, gave a damn about the religion he grew up in. Literally, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:18 PM
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20 years of dating experience and watching my family and friends for even longer periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:04 PM
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If that were true and they actually wanted real relationships, most of them would be married. There are too many women wanting husbands who aren't getting partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:00 PM
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Want to bet. I was recently in the partner finding scene. I have nieces that are currently looking for a partner. Short, fat, losers are all over the place propositioning young beautiful women vastly above them. Of course, these losers are always bitterly complaining when their viciously flamed, but they really do deserve public shaming and humiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:58 PM
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And don't forget a fuckdoll. Even so called "religious" guys try to demand sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:48 PM
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If women aren't going on dates with these men there's usually two factors at work. 1.) they are not pursuing women often enough. Asking one woman out a year isn't going to net many choices and most likely 2.) they are pursuing women vastly above them in terms of appearance and social status. Guys who are 5's need to stop bothering women who are 9s and 10s. If those guys would date women of the same social class, ethnicity, and attractiveness level, they won't have any problems finding someone. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:30 PM
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Usually those men say they want long term relationships, but actually only want sex. Or if they do want a long term relationship, they expect the woman to do everything and offer her nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:16 PM
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The only complaint I have really heard that these women said about dating is that they keep coming across men who aren't interested in long term relationships. Why do you think so many women have this issue? We have this issue because so many men only want casual sex. It really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:05 PM
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In my culture women do not approach men, nor do we act immodestly There have been plenty of times I have wished someone would introduce me to guy, but it was not possibly. I just accept it as fate or the will of G_d.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:23 PM
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Absolutely, I could not share my life with someone who didn't have the same core values.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 05:04 PM
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Yes, though he is occasionally immature and has to be corrected.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:55 PM
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No, but I don't have sex unless I am married and I don't get married without a pre-nuptial agreement best described by my second husband's attorney with the comment, "Only ink, she doesn't want it signed with blood?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:18 PM
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I have seen exactly one false accusation in my life. A gay friend in the military (back when gays couldn't be in the military) who had a woman accuse him of getting her pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:14 PM
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I absolutely supported one of my gay friends when another now ex-friend accused him of being responsible for her pregnancy. The guy was in the closet at that time, so I got a lot of flack for standing by him. However my support was why our friend group and community didn't believe the accusations and supported him in his insistence of "Let the DNA test, tell the story."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:12 PM
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So all homeless men are bad guys? Plenty of women volunteer to help the homeless. In fact, when I do volunteer work, I don't see men out there working with the poor and homeless. It's always women. Can you say it about most american women you've encountered? Absolutely, almost all the American women (outside the Republican women) I have encountered are kind, decent people who help others. I can't say that about American men. And American women are more likely to help men than American men are wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:03 PM
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Why should men who you'd step over in the street if you saw them dying as people do every day. The only men I would do this to are known murderers and rapists (i.e.,men I know would do harm to me and other women). The only men who get treated like this by society are men who DESERVE it. Why should they risk their physically safety for you when there's no way you'd fight a man for them? Because it's part of the human contract that creates a civil society that people try to help others when others…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:45 PM
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Helping someone in danger isn't an obligation men have toward women. It is an obligation all human being have toward all other human beings. Anyone that doesn't carry out that obligations deserves to be exiled by their fellow human beings, male or female. Women have the same obligations in the social contract toward men as men have toward women: we are to treat each other as equals with respect and take care of one another. Women have been doing this continually for centuries. Men almost never l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 01:37 PM
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Men would claim they thought those warnings were meant for other guys, not supreme gentlemen like themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 07:15 PM
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That they are cowards who deserve to be expelled from society. If someone is in danger, male or female, it is any other human's (male or female) duty as a member of the human race to help them. Furthermore, having lived in Houston Texas for over a decade, I can comfortably say that illegal immigrants are less dangerous for women than American males. Illegal immigrants including the ones involved in the drug trade don't want police attention. They want to stay low and off the radar. I have never …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:29 PM
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Maybe not abuse, but being a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 10:41 PM
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I honestly don't care as long as he isn't whining annoyingly about it all the time. Doesn't like his "gender role" in dating, cool, may he enjoy celibacy, but I am not going to care or sympathize if he regrets his choice. It was what he choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 10:39 PM
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It's not about viewing them as sexless neutered eunuch. It's about viewing them as not potential rapists. There's a Grand Canyon sized gulf between the differences in the two perspectives. Just like no man wants to be viewed as the safe backup option which gets useful once woman is done with her fun phase. It's absolutely disrespectful. Men should have a problem with this. It is exactly how they treat women. Equality isn't disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:04 PM
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I am curious though. Have you been able to address with them or rectify them firsthand? I would tell them the first time it happened, not to touch me and that physical contact with a man other than my husband or a blood relative was prohibited by my very Jewish religious beliefs. The good men (few and far between) always apologized and never did it again. The assholes always had to try pushing my boundaries. I reported them using the procedures in the various employee conduct codes. Human Resour…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:49 PM
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Dozens of men have accused me of discrimination; frequently throwing hissy fits in HR, because I will not allow them to touch me or be alone with them in a potentially compromising situations. I have been fired because I refuse to allow male co-workers to touch me. Strangely enough the one transgendered person (female-to-male) I have ever worked with had no problem with me not touching them even though technically that would have been permissible since that person would be considered another wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:54 PM
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I would work in a locked office by myself possibly. Honestly, it's not something that happens often in education.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:52 PM
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We have a lovely conference room with a wall of clear glass. All behavior that occurs inside that room is visible to dozens of people. If I have to discuss anything one-to-one with a male co-worker or manager we have the discussion there. Otherwise a female HR rep is present.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:41 PM
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I don't find the "Mike Pence Rule" sexist. What I do find sexist is that when women have the same rules, we are usually fired or accused of discrimination. For clarification, I am an Orthodox Jewish woman. I do not meet alone with men other than my husband or male relatives without witnesses. I do not touch men or allow men to touch me for any reason unless it involves saving a human life. I have spent a lot of time dealing with the Human Resources departments of various employers. I have been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:20 PM
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Teenagers. especially young teenagers, can require as much supervision as toddlers. It just has to be done in more subtle ways which makes it even more difficult than just looking after little children. Teenagers have problems and issues that are a lot more difficult to handle than small children and their behavior can fluctuate between smart (especially when it comes to getting and doing things they want) and stupid at a bipolar pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 03:18 PM
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Having sex with someone outside of marriage is sinful in many religions also. What is disgusting sexually is also highly subjective. Some religious people consider any sex (homo or heterosexual) outside of marriage as disgusting because it is sinful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:35 PM
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child is almost a teenager in my case and most of heavy lifting is already done All the parents of teenagers or former parents of teenagers I know would tell you the heavy lifting has just begun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:18 PM
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I don't think it is unintentional. When I was single, every single dad I knew wanted me to raise his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:16 PM
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It is acceptable to reject a person for any reason. We don't force people at gunpoint to be in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:07 PM
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Yes, for me marriage is about commitment and loyalty. If two people have that and a few mutual interests to talk about I think they can have a long, happy life together. As long as he didn't cheat. Adultery is a deal breaker with me (and probably a skull or kneecap breaker).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:04 PM
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My question is, how would you feel if your male partner said he wasn’t initially attracted to you? Would it feel more positive or would it sting a little? My entire dating history (and both my marriages) has been men who admitted they weren't initially attracted to me, but somehow liking me just grew on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:00 PM
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We care. But many of us know that nothing we say or do will change the behavior of the majority of those men, so why waste the time and effort. I have always heard the adage "Don't cast pearls before swine." I think that applies well in this situation. If the promiscuous slutty men that I know as friends ask for my opinions on why their lives are miserable, of course, I would give my opinion that all their sleeping around was the main problem and suggest counseling for sex addiction and finding …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:22 PM
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The never married successful employee because I would have my own money and freedom to do what I like and the ability to protect myself. One thing very obvious to me from my family history (Holocaust, Balkan Communism, and Yugoslav Wars) is that job skills are what keep you alive and make your life meaningful. One clip of bullets (or in the more civilized West a house fire or a natural disaster) will end a husband and children and leave a woman alone with nothing. A husband can leave a woman wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:03 PM
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Why are you so afraid of the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:14 PM
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So what, people believe and practice pre-marital celibacy in the 21st century (and I imagine religious people like me will continue to practice that way of life in the 22nd century and beyond). The only difference from the past is that people like me freely choose that way of life rather than have it imposed on them by force.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:08 PM
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Stability and comfort ultimately tips the scale for me, but it is not the only factor. There has to be some excitement. There has to be something in the relationship that makes it better than being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:25 PM
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Only if he's looking for pre-marital sex. However, he would have an easier time finding a wife who was committed to pre-marital chastity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:30 PM
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It's a matter of degree of exploitative. Sex work is like destructive like smoking the occasional bit of marijuana. Age - gape relationships are destructive like doing fentanyl daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:33 PM
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It's still work. Emotionally it's different and when they look back on it in the future, it's less humiliating than being emotionally manipulated for sex by an older partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:53 PM
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Only if she was a damn good lawyer and the guy has assets. Older doesn't mean richer. Plenty of middle-aged men are broke losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:37 PM
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It's about the type of exploitation. Sex work is work. People get paid for it, underpaid in many cases, but the principle is that it is work. There is no emotional connection. Age-gape relationships are just pure exploitation, physical and mental without compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:24 PM
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Plenty of women don't believe that humans are children until 25 years old. The sex work and age gape relationships is that sex work is ultimately work. If a young woman chooses to engage in that sort of employment, she may be exploited, but at least she does get paid. In age gape relationships, she just gets exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:14 PM
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In my culture that has been the norm for young women for about 4000 years. It's also quite common in most gentile cultures. Women are routinely shamed for having sexual desires. It's already the norm for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 02:02 PM
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I believe sex should only occur within a marriage. I am great with this. In my opinion young men should be shamed for wanting premarital sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:47 PM
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I wish my husband had a lot fewer social skills. I hate some of his friends. Social skills for men aren't that difficult to learn either. Don't act out sexually with a woman who isn't your wife. How is that so goddamn difficult to understand? I know the answer, Male creeps don't want to understand. They know their behavior is unacceptable, but keep trying to get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 06:54 PM
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I totally disagree. I have known plenty of couples where the wife has vastly more money, either by earnings or inheritance, than the husband. None of them treated their husbands badly. They treated their husbands as EQUALS with responsibilities and duties to the family. Too many people see a lack of male privilege in a relationship and call it abuse. That's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 06:49 PM
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Everything good in the universe in one person. I am a wonderful Jewish woman, religious devote, very honest and true to my moral faith. I care about humanity and live everyday trying to make the world a better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 09:17 PM
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And, if a guy want to find someone long-term, is the best course of action trying to hook up with many women first? No, this is a very bad idea if you want a relationship There are plenty of women that aren't comfortable with hook-ups. Concentrate on finding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:35 PM
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I love that song!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:22 PM
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If my current husband ever hinted at asking for a paternity test, it wouldn't have to be a break-up, I could possibly kill in a fit of rage. Asking for a paternity test is accusing a woman of cheating and the one thing he should know about me above all else is that I would never do that. Adultery is just something so against every component of my being for him to imagine me capable of doing that would be beyond devastating. It would be an obliteration of our marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 02:03 PM
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Some men want virgin women for the same reason that men are against adultery: disgust that their wife has been touched by another man, it causes a feeling of aversion, as if it were something impure. Men who feel like that should stay virgins until they marry. Trust me their wives are utterly disgusted by the thought of all the other women that have touched their husbands. Feelings of aversion will arise because the women feel as if their husband were something impure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 06:49 PM
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I think you watch too many teen movies and television shows and it's led to a serious disconnect from reality. Euphoria was not a documentary. Young people are having less sex now than previous generations. Abortion is illegal and hard to get where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:57 PM
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Dude, I teach young women at my synagogue several nights every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:43 PM
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You sound very hedonistic about sex and dismissive about marriage. You are entitled to free will; however, don't complain about the consequence you may face when your older, like loneliness and isolation because no worth having in your life wants to be around you. I'm glad prostitution has worked out for you, so far. It isn't a profession that many people come out of without damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:19 PM
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The delusion is strong in this one. There are millions of virgins especially among 14/15 girls living outside war zones and high poverty areas. They just don't want to sleep with middle aged losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:56 PM
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I think it's because some of the guys on this sub cannot comprehend that there is anything more to life than sex. If they had the opportunity to have tons of casual sex, they absolutely would do just that to hell with the consequences (and they are enraged with jealous because some women do have the opportunity to get a lot of casual sex). It is completely beyond their mental capacity to imagine a person that does not see having sex with multiple partners as the most important thing in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:54 PM
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You are totally delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:50 PM
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I didn't get married until I was in my 30's. I honestly don't believe virgin men who are so because of religious beliefs are mocked for their virginity though they may suffer some from people who don't comprehend or respect their religious ideals or even having such beliefs at all. Virgin women are shamed just as much and/or targeted for rape. The later happened to me quite a lot because I went to college in the Southern United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:46 PM
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When I first started looking for a husband, I wanted a good Jewish guy who I could build a life and family with. He needed to be hard-working because I am hard-working and money is important for survival. And I hoped we shared some common interests. After a few toxic trolls I realized it wasn't fair for me put in all this effort and them offer nothing in return. He needed to look as good as I did a 6 or 7 out of 10. He had to have at least some common pastimes with me, preferably similar reading…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:54 PM
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