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get their tubes tied I would very much be in favor of this
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 10:38 PM
6

You also don't have 80 percent of jobs hiring 20 percent of the people. The top 20 percent of the people will get the best jobs, but they won't be getting all the jobs.
/r/MGTOW05/05/19 12:00 AM
1

Alternatively: "Who cucked you?"
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 11:42 PM
2

OOTL, what is platinum and how does it compare to gold? I've gotten golds and silvers, but never a platinum.
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 11:38 PM
2

Also, I will not lift a finger to help a child. I mean, I'll go get help for them, but I will not do anything directly myself.
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 11:33 PM
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I'll give up my seats for disabled and elderly, irrespective of gender. I will not give up my seats for people not in these categories, irrespective of gender. Pregnancy is not a disability.
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 11:31 PM
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And so they decided to do it - all just to save money. $1094 isn't a small amount of money, even if it is Canadian dollars (sorry, couldn't resist) What gets me is that charging men more for auto insurance is "fair" because men are a greater risk category. But charging women more for health insurance (in the U.S.) is considered "unfair". Men also have to pay more for life insurance. It seems that any category where men have to pay more is fair, but if women would have to pay more, it is unfair. …
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 03:16 AM
2

So fucking tired of hearing about Amy Schumer. Netflix seems to try and spam her shit. Edit: that wasn't aimed at you, OP. Aimed at the author of the MSM article, and MSM in general
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 03:11 AM
3

That's hilarious
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 03:11 AM
7

Yeah, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I don't expect this to be a popular opinion here, but: They moved to a more expensive area for the bf's well-paying job. That is to his benefit. I think it is fair to negotiate for her to pay less than 50% on account of this. If I moved someone to a more expensive area so that I could benefit from a better paying job, I'd expect to absorb the cost difference, unless that move also resulted in them getting a better paying job. We split everything 50/…
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 03:09 AM
11

Putting the "cunt" back in "country"
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 01:22 AM
5

PG&E? You mean P&G, right. Fuck P&G, I try to avoid buying from them as much as possible.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 01:18 AM
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enforcing reinforcing her Not to be pedantic, but saying "enforcing" like that suggests a very different situation.
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 01:15 AM
3

I'm partial to the Civic.
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 03:21 AM
3

More like "falls onto another man's dick."
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 03:19 AM
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Them: "genes don't matter" Me: then adopt a child from a 3rd world who is literally starving to death, rather than creating one of your own. After all, genes don't matter, it's all about the child.
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 03:18 AM
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It isn't the child's fault, at all. But it also isn't the man's fault. The man shouldn't be forced to continue to live a lie. Sorry, but not everything is about "the children." If we insist on following this line of thinking; it should be noted that there are a significant number of children who are homeless and even starving to death. It's difficult to get accurate or even consistent numbers, but 3 million children starve to death each year. Anyone who reproduces rather than adopts, but then sh…
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 03:15 AM
13

Bonus: without the expenses associated with parenthood and marriage, you can retire early for real. /r/financialindependence is linked on the sidebar for good reason
/r/MGTOW29/04/19 03:07 AM
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statutory rape It's worse than them "just" being underage. She also supplied them with alcohol.
/r/MGTOW18/04/19 12:51 AM
5

Just listening to this made me sick. Family court has made fatherhood a de facto crime. I cannot think of any non-felony infraction that carries a greater penalty.
/r/MensRights12/04/19 03:26 AM
1

TBH, I'm not sure what the best avenue to pursue this would be. Maybe someone else here will know.
/r/MensRights12/04/19 03:23 AM
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they wont even apologize for doing something like this because everyone else does it. Whenever I would say that I was going to do something because everyone else was, one of the replies I would get from my parents was "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you jump too?" They encouraged free-thinking and generally followed that. But they failed in this particular instance.
/r/MensRights12/04/19 03:05 AM
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You make the grant, which pays someone else to do the research.
/r/MensRights12/04/19 03:03 AM
2

Crowdfund a research grant to study this?
/r/MensRights12/04/19 01:54 AM
2

"Be the change that you want to see"
/r/MensRights12/04/19 01:44 AM
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“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” -Upton Sinclair They don't want to know, because that allows for plausible deniability.
/r/MensRights12/04/19 01:40 AM
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I did not have complications from my circumcisions. It was all "according to plan." I am still deeply resentful of my parents for taking something away from me that I can never get back.
/r/MensRights12/04/19 01:39 AM
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Double "bonus" points if the man in question is black. But to be 100% clear, this is a gender issue first and foremost. Race builds upon this if you are a man, but I haven't heard about black women getting assumed to be the perpetrator the way that men of any race are.
/r/MensRights12/04/19 01:37 AM
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Good luck trying to find any happiness in life with that level of cynicism. I find that being honest with myself is more important than being "happy". To be honest, it doesn't affect my day-to-day happiness all that much, though it does impart a sense of isolation and disconnect with those around me and has led to a bit of an existential "crisis." I will concede that I have a very different way of thinking than most of those whom I encounter, which can make it difficult to relate.
/r/MensRights11/04/19 05:13 PM
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You're right. It is orders of magnitude worse. I disagree. Fwiw, I am a contributing and productive member of society, I'm simply not a reproductive member. Your perspective also really dehumanizes and shits on those who are unable to reproduce. Even if your comment was aimed at those who intentionally choose not to reproduce, it is still insensitive to those who cannot reproduce, and many of them already feel devalued or otherwise marginalized by society. Actually sounds very selfish to me. Par…
/r/MensRights11/04/19 04:13 PM
1

This is true. I was merely hypothesizing why white men might have such a low rate of responding too messages sent to them when compared to other groups.
/r/MensRights11/04/19 03:51 PM
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Perhaps, but it still isn't suicide on an individual level, which makes the comparison disingenuous and is a cheap attempt to be inflammatory. If anything, it allows one to have a much greater degree of freedom, and thus to live life more on one's own terms. That sounds like the opposite of suicide to me.
/r/MensRights11/04/19 02:45 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Benatar
/r/MensRights11/04/19 04:59 AM
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Or ... not creating new people to experience headaches is a good way to prevent future headaches. I'm not sure why people have this strange fixation with suicide whenever "not reproducing" is brought up. If that is really where your mind drifts, I suggest seeking professional help.
/r/MensRights11/04/19 04:56 AM
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and that White Men reply the least frequently by a huge margin. How many obviously fake messages from scammers and otherwise fake profiles do men get as a percentage of total 1st contact messages? I'd suspect (but I have no data) that this is a factor. ​
/r/MensRights11/04/19 01:10 AM
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If your existence is a problem in your mind... ...why do you continue existing? Did you seriously ask me why I don't just kill myself? I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.
/r/MensRights11/04/19 12:54 AM
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I guess that depends on whether there's some sort of an afterlife or whatever. I'm not arguing that case, but I've seen it made before. I'm not Christian but live in a predominantly Christian nation. According to their beliefs, there is a non-zero chance of eternal damnation in the afterlife. From a negative utilitarian and antifrustrationism perspective, this is a very bad risk to take.
/r/MensRights10/04/19 11:23 PM
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There is no downside to never existing. The number of potential, but non-existent people is arbitrarily large. They aren't suffering, nor are "missing out."
/r/MensRights10/04/19 10:09 PM
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Lol, someone pissed in your Wheaties this morning. Just take a deep breath.
/r/MensRights10/04/19 08:43 PM
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What if there is going to be a generation which are more intelligent, enlightened and capable of taking care of everything better? That's quite an assumption there. But even if this happens, what is the point over simply not existing in the first place. Antifrustrationism posits that "we don't do any good by creating satisfied extra preferences. What matters about preferences is not that they have a satisfied existence, but that they don't have a frustrated existence." Only with meaningful suffe…
/r/MensRights10/04/19 08:28 PM
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But I said I wasn't going to argue today, and I mean it. We'll call it a truce then!
/r/MensRights10/04/19 07:39 PM
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That wasn't really the core point that I was making. However I will explain my position regarding: is it equally immoral for animals to exist at the expense of other animals? The concept of "agency" is a big deal on this sub. Humans (regardless of gender!) have agency, whereas non-human animals don't. Morality is a uniquely human concept. Wild animal suffering is a topic that is brought up in antinatalist discussions. My general perspective is that suffering that wild animals inflict on each oth…
/r/MensRights10/04/19 06:32 PM
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting go date someone who has kids. I'm childfree. I don't want children of my own or to deal with someone else's. Wording and general crassness aside, the only one that I would consider offensive is "rule 2". 1 and 3 are both (again, crassness aside) pretty legit: no kids and can take care of one's self. I expect both of these things too.
/r/MensRights10/04/19 06:07 PM
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​Personally I take a techno-utopian stance: the literal planet isn't even close to its limit, we're just not using it as efficiently as we can. Even if the planet can support more people: why? What's the point? Of course I've seen a few Antinatalists who advocate for population control worldwide, but they were all "existence is pain" JRPG villain types. Lol, I'm an antinatalist. A "JRPG villain type," ha! I do suspect that a significant segment of the population would indeed find my ideas to be …
/r/MensRights10/04/19 05:51 PM
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This, right here. Acknowledging male vulnerability goes directly against male disposability, thus the former is often vigorously suppressed.
/r/MensRights10/04/19 05:43 PM
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Not having children is also one of the most important things a man can do to protect himself from getting assfucked in family court. No, it isn't a cure-all, but it is a good step.
/r/MensRights10/04/19 05:39 PM
1

Don't forget about taxes too. Taxes are progressive, so earning 11.4% doesn't mean 11.4% bigger paycheck. /I mean, it is that time of the year
/r/MensRights10/04/19 07:40 AM
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Extra falling damage?
/r/MensRights06/03/19 07:54 PM
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Lord help you if you fly a lot.
/r/MensRights06/03/19 07:52 PM
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There needs to be consequences for inappropriate behavior, but not everything requires a "full nuclear" response. There's a lot of middle ground here to work with.
/r/MensRights27/12/18 04:48 PM
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/r/vegan Don't repost there, it's already been posted there a few times.
/r/MensRights24/12/18 06:24 AM
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I figured out that investing the money that it would take to raise one child would yield about $45K/year (in today's dollars) in retirement. This assumes child vs. investing starting at age 25 and retiring at age 65. I excluded college. Source: www.cfiresim.com
/r/MGTOW22/06/18 01:59 AM
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There's a reason that they took the word that used to mean "happy."
/r/MensRights10/06/18 08:02 PM
2

Yeah, that "why don't you start a program for ..." argument is just as specious as "well, you can run for office if you don't like the laws."
/r/MensRights10/06/18 08:00 PM
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Trying to make it into a gender issue will only prevent anything being done to fix it. The classic "divide and conquer" tactic to distract us from the real problem.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:58 PM
1

There is plenty of space. It isn't about "space", it's about resource consumption and pollution. We could live sustainably with a greater population if we lowered our standard of living, but why would we do this? Are you willing to give up your standard of living for the sake of squeezing more people? To what end?
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:55 PM
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Men who refuse to have babies - to protect their futures and prevent themselves from getting ravaged in family court.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:47 PM
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Corporations and the government also benefit from people having children. They need a steady supply of labor, consumers, and taxpayers.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:44 PM
1

It's long been a tenet of feminism that nuclear families are inherently oppressive to women. _ “We must work to destroy [marriage]… The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Marriage is a shitty deal for men. Let them target marriage for destruction.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:37 PM
2

You can freeze sperm before getting a vasectomy. The risk of accidental pregnancy is too high, and the consequences too devastation, to leave it to chance.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:34 PM
3

I think there is one particular legislation that would make sense: legalize prostitution. Other than that, I think you're spot on.
/r/MensRights10/06/18 07:26 PM
1

I can understand why some people watch twitch, but I can't understand why enough people watch it that it is actually popular rather than some small niche thing.
/r/MGTOW15/04/18 07:11 PM
1

I love the Diablo series, but I really can't get into Path of Exile.
/r/MGTOW15/04/18 07:04 PM
1

Grim Dawn any good? I've thought about checking it out.
/r/MGTOW15/04/18 07:31 AM
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Still a better investment than marriage + children.
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 09:02 PM
6

Bitcoin payments only Obligatory: "this is good for bitcoin"
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 08:49 PM
5

I mean just look at what $60 gets you in video games Video games are a phenomenal value in entertainment. Few things can rival it in terms of value. With video games, a full time minimum wage job is possibly fullfilling or you could start saving all that extra money you didn't have to spend on other things...to retire early This isn't even far-fetched. I make a solid middle class income and can save huge amounts of money because AND have a lower "target" because I can make do with less. Video ga…
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 08:48 PM
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Yeah, it'd be like if you gift someone a car and then are held criminally liable when they get drunk and drive it into someone.
/r/MGTOW07/04/18 08:41 PM
6

Fucking bone-chilling, cold-blooded murder. If she was truly in danger, she wouldn't have had time to lazily pull the gun out of the drawer. Absolutely ridiculous that she got acquitted, but she'll be out of business (and hopefully living under a bridge) soon enough. Murdering your customers isn't good for business.
/r/PussyPass14/03/18 04:58 AM
1

Yeah, but it means GTFO at first sign of pregnancy since you know it isn't yours.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 01:14 PM
3

This article almost reads like satire. There's a song by "Flight of the Conchords" - Boom: Oh my god, she's so hot She's so flipping hot, she's like a curry I wanna tell her how hot she is but she'll think I'm being sexist She's so hot, she's making me sexist...bitch.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 06:01 AM
2

Or until he decides to run immediately.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 05:55 AM
4

Or even the D in that A.
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 05:53 AM
8

And, worse, if the child is deemed permanently disabled, you pay child support for the rest of your life. Suicide seems like a reasonable option here
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 05:53 AM
4

Vasectomy will also do the trick ;-)
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 05:52 AM
2

I think using make-up actually fucks up the skin and ages it. So it doesn't surprise me that someone who has habitually used heady makeup looks like shit without it.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 03:58 AM
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Is that the judge presiding over the kangaroo court that the poor sap is going to find himself in?
/r/MGTOW10/11/17 08:40 PM
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Posted by a man. Traitor to his own kind.
/r/MensRights10/11/17 08:03 PM
1

Yeah, that should bhave been obvious. I was thinking "dick", but 6" is about average.
/r/MGTOW24/10/17 06:16 PM
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666 Chad? I'm guessing 6-digit income, 6' tall ... what's the other?
/r/MGTOW24/10/17 06:24 AM
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Most specifically, the emotional intimacy provided in the platonic relationship would subvert men’s need to depend on women for it, thereby stripping away one element women could use to control, for lack of a better word, the relationship. Ah yes, the divide & conquer strategy in action.
/r/MensRights23/10/17 09:56 PM
1

She probably sucked someone off.
/r/MensRights23/10/17 09:53 PM
1

Objectification is still objectification, even if there are some upsides to it.
/r/MensRights23/10/17 09:50 PM
1

And wealth. Never forget about wealth.
/r/MGTOW18/10/17 02:58 PM
1

The lonely position of neutral.
/r/MGTOW17/10/17 08:50 PM
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Survival of the individual over survival of the species. And why the hell wouldn't I choose my own personal survival?
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 02:59 PM
3

I'm OK with this as long as lying about (or tampering with) birth control is also considered rape.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 02:56 PM
1

What would they do to men who are not in the top 20% that might not be able to get a date anyway? And to answer your question: probably a "gay" relationship of convenience.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 02:55 PM
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I'm OK with this as long as lying about (or tampering with) birth control is also considered rape.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 02:54 PM
7

Cannot recommend vasectomy highly enough.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 02:48 PM
2

Well, then they should be practically jizzing themselves because I'm sterilized and won't be producing any more future men. I deserve a pat on the back for my efforts.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 02:45 PM
3

I hate how driving is taken as a granted. Expense aside, I personally detest driving. It's a "privilege", and yet society expects everyone to do it even though it's: expensive, dangerous, and requires some measure of skill that not everyone possesses. It's shit that most cities, and most of society, are structured so that it's very difficult to get by without a car and the ability to drive. Also, consider that driver's licenses can be suspended for a variety of non-driving related things: namely…
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 06:55 AM
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I recommend that all men get a vasectomy. If you absolutely positively want to have kids some day, then freeze some samples first and then get a vasectomy. CYA at all times.
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 06:51 AM
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Note: I'm posting this for educational purposes only and used an "NP" link for a reason. Please do not vote or comment there unless you post/sub there already. The entire post is a shitshow, but I specifically want to comment on: Women could DIE, but yeah, you maybe having to pay some percentage of your paycheck is soooo much worse. AND Meanwhile, whether you pay child support or not, someone else having a kid doesn't endanger your life in even the tiniest way. You have ZERO risk. I point out wo…
/r/MensRights06/10/17 06:42 AM
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Note: I'm posting this for educational purposes only and used an "NP" link for a reason. Please do not vote or comment there unless you post/sub there already. I specifically want to comment on: Women could DIE, but yeah, you maybe having to pay some percentage of your paycheck is soooo much worse. AND Meanwhile, whether you pay child support or not, someone else having a kid doesn't endanger your life in even the tiniest way. You have ZERO risk. I point out workplace fatalities, but of course t…
/r/MGTOW06/10/17 06:36 AM
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Or they'll say "dark and mysterious"
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 09:02 PM
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doesn't this make you guys feel a bit sad or depressed? It's just the tip of the iceberg for me. Life's a lot sadder and depressing than just realizations about hypergamy and evolution. I could go on and on about it, but it's beyond the scope of this post. The world is shit. Evolution is shit. Nature is shit. Life is shit. Now, I guess this leaves me with a rather nihilistic view. Nihilistic, no? I still place value on maximizing my pleasure while minimizing my suffering. I would say that there …
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 08:51 PM
7

"There are no such things as Chads, just people that are more Chad than you." I would agree. And we've seen this play out where even successful men (e.g. rich/famous celebs) have gotten divorced and hosed in family court. And Chad isn't a static state of being either. One can become more Chad or less Chad.
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 08:44 PM
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Yes, to the entirety of your post. By going MGTOW, you opt out of this evil game. The game must end. I came to this realization a few years ago and have become an antinatalist as a result.
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 06:16 PM
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Evolution might be good for a species, but it absolutely is cruel and unfair to individuals within a species. And there's no denying: nature is a shitshow.
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 06:13 PM
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You want to know how I know this is bullshit? Because it seems like it's usually women who are pushing to get married in the first place, whereas men are the ones being pressured/shamed into it. Ignore the words and look at behaviors.
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 06:05 PM
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And here I am, wanting less shit with each passing year. I want to downsize. People talk about how homeownership is better than renting, but that is only true with apples-to-apples comparisons on sufficiently long time lines. Buying is NOT better than renting if you end up buying a huge fucking house and spending 5-digits on renovations. Larger houses have a lot of overhead: more taxes, more utilities to heat/cool, more repairs and maintenance, and then all the shit you have to buy to fill the s…
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 06:02 PM
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"Walter, face it, there isn't any connection." It's just attention whoring. Using a tragedy for attention whoring is despicable.
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 05:58 PM
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That comment can't be real. It's a sick joke said in poor taste. Please?
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 04:27 PM
10

Plus she's had cosmetic surgery "No one cared who I was, until I put on the mask."
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 04:23 PM
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The /r/antinatalism is strong in this thread. You guys are ahead of the curve.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 04:19 PM
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Yeah, they never talk about men's shorter lifespans, higher workplace fatality rate, higher suicide rate, higher cancer rate, disparities in the justice legal system, etc. And they think that women are the primary victims of war, despite men being the ones being conscripted (I consider this slavery), fighting, and dying. They fixate on the few areas where men actually do have it better, and areas where they think men have it better, while ignoring the ways that we get fucked over.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 04:14 PM
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Yeah, it takes 2 to tango. If older men are pursuing younger women, it's only because some younger women are going for it.
/r/MGTOW01/10/17 12:54 AM
1

And if one of those students would have gotten her pregnant, they would have had to pay child support. There are real consequences to this. This woman had power over these boys, and there is a reason it is illegal.
/r/MensRights29/09/17 06:39 PM
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McCarter faced up to 38 years behind bars Glad to see /r/pussypassdenied , but does any see a problem with this? My argument here is completely non-gendered: 27 year-old adult has sex with 16 year-old. To be clear from the story, it is statutory rape, not "you don't want to fail my class, do you?" rape, drugging-someone rape, knife-point rape, or physically overpowering someone rape. And it is a 16 year-old, not a pre-pubescent child. My point here is that people get less time for killing someon…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 10:54 PM
1

Our social structures in the west are designed to have an ever increasing amount of people putting into the system. This is doomed to eventual failure. Continuous growth cannot happen in perpetuity. What is the end-game strategy here?
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 03:35 PM
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You're living in a dream world OP.. You work under the blinkered assumption that the authorities give one iota of fuck about what the "little people" are doing. Umm ... this would be antithetical to a dream world. I don't want them to give a fuck about what I'm doing. I want to fly under the radar and coast through life with as little pushback as possible.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 03:34 PM
2

The only thing the government is actually afraid of is a falling tax collection rate. Men refusing to follow the lifescript (particularly the "get married and have kids" part) will lead to a reduction in taxes as fertility rates drop into the shitter.
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 03:31 PM
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Yeah, I'd rather just rent. Easier to move away if some insufferable dipshits move in next door. Or if I get a different job across town. Or if I decide to downsize. Or decide to upsize. Or whatever the fuck else I want. Home ownership is overrated anyway... I agree. Just another part of the life script meant to anchor us down. Buy a big house and then buy a bunch of shit to fill it up with. Get into big debt and be geographically tied to a small areas so that you are at the mercy of your curren…
/r/MGTOW26/09/17 04:48 AM
2

And 2 of the most important Don't get married Don't have kids
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 06:40 PM
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Marriage is a fucking scam, the world over. Out of curiosity, does anyone know if there are any nations that do not have/recognize marriage?
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 06:39 PM
10

Yeah, 12 wasn't even just the weight, but a bunch of other stuff you mentioned as well. Total style just went to pure shit, and it happened in only 3 years! Could you imagine marrying that?
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 06:38 PM
3

17 and 33 for me. 33 had the stupid tattoo before, so this wasn't part of her "wall."
/r/MGTOW23/09/17 06:34 PM
7

Having kids is the only biological urge I can't shake I have a strong biological urge to blow my load (unprotected) into a vagina. Pulling out doesn't satisfy this, nor does wearing a condom. However, emptying it anally does satisfy. Given that I have a vasectomy, and my urge can be completely satisfied, I an safely say that I have zero interest in procreation itself, just that I like going through the motions.
/r/MGTOW30/08/17 04:00 AM
2

And she is surprised that she lost the election after taking a massive shit on half the population? To be clear: I do not like Trump either. The Democrats should have easily won if they didn't fail so spectacularly by forcing such a disliked candidate down everyone's throats. They fucking deserved to lose.
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 11:27 PM
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Also: DO NOT HAVE KIDS
/r/MGTOW29/08/17 11:20 PM
1

How I know that feminism is full of shit and isn't really about equality: When I advocate the use of the word "egalitarian" to denote someone who is pro-equality and get responded with "Feminism" is specific, whereas "egalitarian" is not. Feminism acknowledges that the sex that is being discriminated against is females, and seeks to advocate for the social, economical, and political equality of women in a world that has historically favored men. While I agree that women have absolutely been disc…
/r/MGTOW28/08/17 02:54 PM
22

Experts say a male birth control method could cut into the thriving global markets for female contraceptives and condoms, valued at $10 billion and $3.2 billion each year, respectively. Ugh, and big pharma will sit on this for another fucking decade. This needs to be crowd-funded, or funded by a philanthropist group, or some other way to bypass big pharma. Men seriously need some contraceptive options. This is the fucking 21st century and our options are to either but a plastic bag over our junk…
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 04:57 PM
11

incel was that incel's worshipped pussy and complained about never getting it Yep, an incel that decides to move the fuck on with their life, stop worshipping pussy, and not get hung up on getting laid can become MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 07:52 AM
4

What a bunch of ignorant bullshit. These analyses are flawed. I agree with you. The excuses they give are fucking appalling. Yet some pharmaceutical companies are concerned a new birth control method for men has the potential to win as much as half the $10 billion market for female contraceptives worldwide and cut into the $3.2 billion of annual condom sales — businesses dominated by pharmaceutical giants Bayer AG, Pfizer and Merck. Different fucking customers you retards. Men aren't buying fema…
/r/MensRights27/08/17 05:50 AM
7

With modern contraceptives, I just don't understand why there are so many single mothers. Women have a shitload of contraceptives to choose from, including non-hormonal options if they don't react well to hormones. Failing that, abortion. Failing that, they can give the child up for adoption.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:51 AM
6

Agreed. The child did not ask to be brought into this shitty world by an irresponsible woman.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:48 AM
4

Never try to outbreed the competition, it's a fool's errand. You breeding more does not mean that they breed less. The world does not need more MGTOW, it needs fewer white knights, manginas, etc. Breeding is very expensive, both in terms of finances and time. These resources would be better spent trying to convert others to your cause (e.g. beta males to MGTOW). This not only means more MGTOW, but also fewer beta males; it's a win-win. And it doesn't expose you to the risks of reproduction.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:42 AM
6

participate in protest marches and stuff Protesting is foolish. You are opening yourself up to confrontation with armed adversaries. Don't engage them on their own terms, don't try to beat them at their own game. One of the most important facets of MGTOW is that there is nothing for anyone to confront. We aren't standing on a corner waiting to get teargassed.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:38 AM
3

I should have become a urologist. I could have given vasectomies to any man 18+ who is willing to sign his name and give informed consent. As it is now, it can be a real struggle for young men to find a doctor to perform the procedure. I would be proud to go into work each and every day. NOT having kids is probably the most important thing that the average man can do to not only protect his rights but to hoist a middle finger at our unjust, indecent society. I do not consider it a coincidence th…
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:33 AM
9

spreading information Spreading information is good, and it's my preferred M.O. I think the biggest single thing that men can do is to stop reproducing. People can only be subjected to our toxic, shitty society if they actually exist. And I don't want to feed any more worker drones, taxpayers, soldiers, or consumers into the grinder.
/r/MGTOW27/08/17 03:29 AM
24

That might be how the burglar got out of jail time.
/r/MensRights23/08/17 07:55 PM
5

Take away their qualified immunity and force district attorneys to give them maximum time for committing crimes or misusing their authority and I might change my mind. I am pro-citizen, first and foremost, not anti-cop Well said. I wouldn't have such an axe to grind if they had real accountability and were held to the same standards as the rest of us. And when the justice legal system doesn't have such a huge anti-male bias.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 02:37 PM
5

C'mon, law enforcement doesn't even crack the top 10 most dangerous professions. And a good number (I think approximately half) of deaths on the job are due traffic accidents. I'm not saying that it's a cush office job, but they also don't deserve any sort of hero worship. I mean, construction and agriculture jobs are more dangerous, and there are no heroics for them.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 02:31 PM
1

One of the best things I've ever done in my life. Congratulations. Just make sure to get the 2 follow-up tests; mine were at 12 and 16 weeks.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:33 AM
2

If all you need is contraception, honestly the pull-out method is just as effective as condoms (90%). The efficacy rate of condoms or pull-out is shitty over long timelines. The failure rate of vasectomy is almost 2 orders of magnitude less.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:32 AM
5

Watch out boy, she'll chew you up
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:29 AM
5

I make money using the money that I save by not spending it on women, marriage, or being a parent. Invest your savings; that will slowly build up a nice passive income for you. And as /u/cheesymold suggested, I too recommend that you learn about cryptos. I'm not saying to run out and buy Bitcoin, but educate yourself and invest an amount of money that you are comfortable with.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:16 AM
8

Actually, I think /u/PillowCastLongShadow does have a valid point. Police are the white knights that enforce all sorts of unfairness against men. How many times do the police simply assume that the man is at fault in (for example) a domestic violence situation? I've never so much as been pulled over, much less a traffic ticket, and I am still extremely suspicious of cops. I go out of my way to stay the fuck away from them.
/r/MGTOW08/08/17 05:12 AM
9

There is NO BENEFIT gained from engaging with a cop on any level. The encounter is inherently asymmetrical. The outcomes vary between neutral and getting arrested or killed. Note the lack of positive outcomes.
/r/MGTOW28/07/17 06:42 PM
11

The word "trainwreck" doesn't even begin to describe this. Any man who gets anywhere near this woman is a complete moron and setting himself up for a very bad time.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 06:39 PM
2

There's some hard core mental illness going on here.
/r/MGTOW27/07/17 06:34 PM
4

I'll dissent here and say that I've found some women in their mid and late 30s to still be attractive. They might not be "hot", but they can still look good if they actually took care of themselves not only in the present but also while they were younger. Yes, they still show their age. But some women can age gracefully if they didn't put on weight or spend their 20s drinking and partying. For reference, I'm close to your age.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 03:13 PM
1

If you have kids, you are owned by family court
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 03:07 PM
26

the ones who are married earn 20 percent more than the ones who are not married. Which tells me that in order to get married and attract a wife, you have to earn more and be more entrepreneurial and work harder. I've always been told that one of the benefits of marriage is that married men earn more money. It's nice to see someone finally acknowledge what I believe to be the correct cause-effect relationship.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 03:02 PM
63

It's Not Your Imagination, Single Men: There Literally Aren't Enough Women Out There We talked to an average guy about the shortage of non-obese, non single-mother women, where men should go if they really want to land a wife, and why so many women are obese or single mothers in the first place.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 02:59 PM
29

One important thing to remember: if you are in the presence of a cop, your life is in mortal fucking danger.
/r/MGTOW26/07/17 02:54 PM
1

I haven't read the book, but I feel like the movie leaves out too many important details that might have been explained in the book.
/r/MGTOW21/07/17 07:46 PM
1

Yeah, I think centuries and millennia go from 1-100/1000, whereas a decade would go from 0-9.
/r/MGTOW21/07/17 07:41 PM
3

Linkin Park sold out a while ago Yeah, I really liked Linkin Park's early music but had about zero interest in their newer stuff. They had almost completely dropped off my radar due to the change in their style.
/r/MGTOW21/07/17 07:38 PM
11

Does the "holes in condom" thing even work? Sounds like an urban legend. A hole in a stretchy material (e.g. rubber) would act as a stress riser. As soon as a little tension is put onto the condom, wouldn't the whole thing just shred? It's like how a little rip in fabric can quickly become a huge rip. Whether it works or not, I'm extremely happy that I've had a vasectomy.
/r/MGTOW21/07/17 07:36 PM
1

Or, heaven help us... if THAT spending isn't needed either -- then just leave the money in the hands of the people themselves. Hahaha! Yeah...they'll find a way to blow it on something.
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 03:22 PM
1

Well .. they know she puts out and will fuck without a condom. /smh
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 03:09 PM
3

soft serve ice-cream mixing station Wow, I almost choked from laughing so hard
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 03:05 PM
2

Yay! Unless you deny climate change, why would you want to create a new person that will have to deal with the impending shit storm.
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 03:01 PM
2

Yeah, this sounds like a good thing that they are trying their damnedest to spin into a negative.
/r/MGTOW20/07/17 03:00 PM
1

We don't see her feet (completely) in any of the photos. Could have been wearing heels and then switched to something without heels in the picture on the right.
/r/MGTOW14/07/17 04:06 PM
1

Do many jobs allow you to rack up that much overtime? Isn't it straight up cheaper for the employer to just get a second employee? I've had weeks in the 90s of hours, though I don't think I've broken 100. I'm sure it is cheaper to get an employee if this is consistent, but if it's just a short term increase in work load, I'd imagine it's cheaper to just pay overtime.
/r/MGTOW11/07/17 10:29 PM
2

This seems relevant here: https://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/the-catalog-of-anti-male-shaming-tactics/
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 06:20 PM
1

the nuclear family is the best thing for them Actually, I'd argue that the extended family would be better for raising children. This push of the nuclear family is just more consumerism under the guise of independence. I mean yes, there is more independence, but it comes at a high cost.
/r/MGTOW10/07/17 06:17 PM
1

Yay! This is a good sign that men are finally starting to wake the fuck up. Aside from committing a crime and getting thrown into prison, there are few things that will throw away your freedom more quickly and more thoroughly than reproducing.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 04:27 PM
2

short guy with a long dick Pringle's can
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 04:23 PM
4

then divorce him The "go back to fucking the tall dude" will happen before the divorce though.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 04:22 PM
1

Error: Divide by zero!
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 04:19 PM
3

That's actually pretty fucking scary. How "direct" of contact is required to spread this? Would drinking / eating after someone be enough? And people don't seem to understand why I'm so weird about sharing drinks.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 04:18 PM
1

Yep, there's some type of demon lurking behind that mask.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 04:14 PM
1

That's really naive and also missing the point I was making. Not doing anything wrong certainly helps reduce the chances, but shit still happens. I can accept that cops are humans and make mistakes, but they still need to be held accountable when this happens. I get held accountable when I make mistakes. So again, my problem boils down to lack of accountability.
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 01:27 PM
1

Would a vasectomy prevent "contamination"?
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 08:52 AM
9

A vasectomy sounds way easier than all the extra steps required. I'd still wear a condom for STD purposes, but it makes the rest superfluous.
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 08:39 AM
1

I tell this even to men who DO want to have kids: get a vasectomy. The only difference is that if you (foolishly) want a kid, that you should freeze some sperm first. Having kids is one of the fastest ways to cede personal freedom over your own life.
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 08:35 AM
5

I'm no fan of cops, and I've never had any trouble with them. But all it takes is one motherfucker on a power trip. My problem with cops comes down to exactly one thing: lack of accountability. If I fuck up at my job, my coworkers won't bend over backwards lying to protect my ass. I can get fired for misconduct or poor performance even if it doesn't rise to the level of criminality. Yet with cops: not only will their coworkers often outright lie to protect them, but short of actual conviction it…
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 08:33 AM
2

The OCD is just ripping away at me reading the account of what transpired. The level of fuck-up here is just too much to bear. Assuming the account was accurate, the only crime that occurred here was one of terminal stupidity.
/r/MGTOW29/06/17 08:26 AM
1

It helps to think of expenditures in terms of time; how many hours of my life am I burning away at my job to pay for this? Is it really worth it?
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 04:44 AM
1

I'm a bit skeptical of David Ramsey as it pertains to his hard line against debt. I bought a car recently. It was a modest vehicle and a sensible choice for my needs. I could have paid cash had I chosen. However, it makes no sense to liquidate my emergency savings to avoid financing a car when I can get a rate under 2%. Alternately, why would I pay cash on a car when that money could go into paying down a mortgage that carries a higher interest rate? Responsible use of debt helps one maintain li…
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 04:42 AM
2

As an antinatalist and MGHOW, I'm being crushed under the weight of my schadenboner.
/r/MGTOW25/06/17 04:23 AM
3

You mean you don't want to pay twice?
/r/MensRights19/06/17 10:53 PM
2

Workplace Salaries: At Last, Women on Top Yep, I've seen a number of articles proclaiming that young women are outearning young men, and that young men are "falling behind."
/r/MensRights19/06/17 10:52 PM
14

I men cheat, they are horrible people who should be ostracized. If women cheat, it is the man's fault because he isn't satisfying the woman; he should be ostracized. I think I see a pattern developing here.
/r/MGTOW17/06/17 06:37 PM
2

She claims to weigh 120. So she's either: completely fucking crazy, really bad face (e.g. disfigurement or deformity), or the 120 is actually 120kg.
/r/MGTOW13/06/17 11:56 PM
25

As with so many other things in life ... follow the money.
/r/MGTOW13/06/17 10:38 PM
75

As a man who is an actual nerd, I find fake nerds to be really irritating. Who would have ever thought that that there would be nerd posers?
/r/MGTOW13/06/17 09:50 PM
3

That was a nice TIL.
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 08:56 PM
2

There's a reason that /r/financialindependence is the first subreddit listed on the sidebar.
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 07:34 PM
3

Also, never EVER mess with gas appliances. Yep, sometimes it's best to leave things to the professionals.
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 07:32 PM
1

Yes. Same goes for ball caps with the huge high-profile structured crowns. I figured out that I'm not actually bothered by flat bills on caps, rather I'm bothered because these caps are usually oversized and look ridiculous unless someone has a really big head.
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 07:32 PM
1

Damn, I would have loved to have been paid for mine. Would have truly been a win-win for me.
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 07:28 PM
17

If you're a single mother, you're not worth the bother. (yes, I know it doesn't really rhyme).
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 07:27 PM
1

No arguments from me. I'd advise anyone who doesn't want kids to get a vasectomy rather than wait for something that could still be a few years away. And 2020 is still just a guess, it could be longer than that. Each year you wait means more opportunities to get someone pregnant. I say don't wait.
/r/MGTOW12/06/17 07:02 PM
1

Someone needs to make a bot that corrects "loose/looser" when it should be "lose/loser". And if I see "rouge" one more time, they better be talking about a color.
/r/MensRights08/06/17 09:18 PM
1

I'm not a nihilist, but I am an antinatalist (AN). Sometimes people like to confuse AN with nihilism, but they are very different, although they might result in many of the same conclusions and behaviors. Unlike nihilism, AN assigns (negative) value to suffering, thus avoiding / preventing suffering are considered important. Will there still be suffering? Yep, you bet. Life is full of suffering This is a central concept of AN. meaning, accomplishments of your own pursuits for your own enjoyment …
/r/MGTOW06/06/17 02:51 PM
8

One of my friends was dating a woman who had a teaching degree. She openly stated that she really just wanted to get married, have kids, and be a SAHM, and never actually wanted to be a teacher. I asked her why the fuck she wasted the time and money getting a degree. She said she just wanted the degree. I ripped into her and said that she took the slot away from someone who might have actually used the degree. My friend dumped her several months later (unrelated reasons), so I don't know what ac…
/r/MensRights05/06/17 01:27 AM
7

in case he's attracted to another girl Oh, he will be attracted to others. It isn't hard to look better than that upholstered couch.
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 04:09 PM
2

He needs to sue the mother for fraud for the damages, and sue the biological father if that can be determined. Take them both to the fucking cleaners. Born in 1988, the child is already an adult now, so there is no "best interests of the child" to consider at this point.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:38 AM
1

Even the 40% for $40K/year isn't great. Also, the article was asking me for a log-in. I'm having none of that, so here's an archive: https://archive.fo/RbLAi
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:30 AM
23

God damn this pisses me the fuck off. Thank goodness there is video of this so that he has a good case for self-defense.
/r/MensRights26/05/17 02:26 AM
2

Yep, it's like dangling drugs in front of a drug addict. As pointed out in the thread, I'd also like to see how it goes down when the OP of linked thread encounters a gay man. Especially if it isn't obvious that he's gay.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 01:42 AM
1

Parting thought: Is that blue he is wearing? Honey, what's the chance he might be in law enforcement? I'll give her this one small shred...cops in a lot of places have started to where "tacticool black" instead of the blue that they have been classically known for. To be honest, those don't look like pants typically worn by law enforcement agents. Still, the women is a fucking moron.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 01:34 AM
1

If only the white knight had DirecTV instead of cable, and stayed home in front of the idiot box. /s
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 01:26 AM
2

And got suspended from school. http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/index.html
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 01:24 AM
1

I'm going to say that it's for the money.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 04:22 PM
2

And it gets even worse (maybe). I don't know how taxes in the UK work, but in the U.S. disability checks are not taxed. So this is a non-taxed ~$96K/year.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 04:22 PM
5

He also has to pay for the lawyers for both of them. Ah yes, the indignities and the punishment never ends.
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 05:49 AM
1

hinted Woodward won't be jailed - because of her 'extraordinary' talent What, did she give the judge anal or something?
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 05:44 AM
1

I welcome our robot overlords! /s
/r/MGTOW17/05/17 05:35 AM
2

I guess I'll be a perma-child. That's fine by me. Why should I add a significant amount of stress to my life for something that I have absolutely zero interest in? /vasectomy
/r/MensRights15/05/17 08:22 PM
1

Doughty slowed down to censure her at which point she raised his middle finger to him and said: "F**k off." I know it's a typo, but that is rather funny to visualize. Like she grabbed his hand and pried the middle finger up or something.
/r/MensRights11/05/17 08:25 PM
13

Well, considering how many women refer to themselves as being bitches like it's some sort of badge of honor, I can't say that I'm surprised.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 06:15 PM
6

would I personally want to start from scratch being born into this world today? I sure as hell wouldn't
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 05:31 PM
8

Very well said.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 05:31 PM
19

I agree. Not reproducing is a kindness, an act of mercy. /r/antinatalism
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 04:37 PM
9

Just about every thing that a person does could be considered selfish in some way. People tend to do things for themselves. Unless you are harming someone by your actions, I don't think "selfish" is a bad thing.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 04:35 PM
1

What would make it acceptable/unacceptable has more to do with the political, social, and legal environment. The environment that I find myself in is the bigger problem.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 04:15 PM
17

Good reason to not have kids. I wouldn't want to condemn them to having to be around during a collapse.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 08:45 PM
3

Meth is a hell of a drug.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 08:29 PM
7

What's wrong with the woman's skin (as seen on the left)? It looks really super oily. It seems that women w/o make-up have much worse skin than men.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 08:25 PM
41

It won't get too popular. Too many thirsty men out there.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 06:36 AM
2

Charging men more for life insurance or auto insurance = fair, because the statistics support that men are a higher risk group Charging women more for health insurance = sexism Fucking double standards
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 05:17 AM
5

From OP She can blackmail you into impregnating her. She can rape you.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 05:15 AM
7

This is why getting a vasectomy is so very very important. It is one of the most important things a man can do to protect their freedom.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 05:14 AM
1

My nickname is a reference to the fact that I'm childfree. Since you are Polish, I'll give you some background here. In American folk tales, babies are delivered to parents by storks. It's sort of a way to discuss having children for audiences who are too young to understand the biology of it. Think of it as Santa Claus, but delivering babies to parents instead of delivering gifts to childfen.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 07:09 PM
9

The sidebare doesn't lie! MGTOW = shortcut to /r/financialindependence
/r/MGTOW23/04/17 03:02 AM
2

Agreed. If anything, I'd rather seem tags (flair?) for posts on what topic they pertain to, and allow users to filter out posts about women.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 05:14 PM
9

I am also a hardline antinatalist. Welcome to the fold, fellow antinatalist. Now unfortunately being 22 and single gasps society pulls the usual "you're too young" bullshit It's a bullshit pro-natalist double standard. Taking on 5 (or even 6) digits of debt for college? No problem. Buying a house? No problem. Getting married? No Problem. Having kids? No problem. Signing the next 4 years of your life away to the military, where you are risking grievous bodily harm or death? No problem. We let 16 …
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 05:11 PM
3

Remaining childfree is one of the most important things that a man can do to protect his freedom. Fatherhood is a de facto criminal act.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 06:29 AM
2

There's nothing I can do about the part of my taxes Ah, but you are doing something about paying taxes. You're just playing the long game: ensure my jizz doesn't turn into a child Your "tax legacy" ends with you, as you will not be replacing yourself with another taxpayer.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 06:27 AM
1

Well, at least by not having children, I'll spare my descendants from having to deal with an idiocracy.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 06:25 AM
4

It's fucking shitty thing to do, but let's at least be consistent and condemn women who lie about birth control with the same level of vigor.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 06:24 AM
47

This trend may be partly due to an increasing imbalance in the number of marriageable men and women at all levels of society. Go fuck yourselves. Marriageable men = meets a lengthy checklist of various criteria Marriageable women = has a pulse Conservatives need to face the fact that a significant contingent of women will remain single. We need to start addressing what it means to live as a single, religious, educated woman in our society. Boo fucking hoo! As usual, it's all about women.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 06:21 AM
41

When standing on his wallet
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 06:16 AM
1

That's pretty much how I do it. Plus, I can't just go to my boss and say "can I work fewer hours for less money?" The amount I have to work is mostly out of my control, but I control how I spend. I choose to spend on my future (i.e. retirement investing)
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 06:14 AM
1

Just a few examples, not meant to encompass every situation. Reasonable situations: death of partner, leaving a partner who becomes (e.g. after the fact) abusive, leaving a partner who cheats, being unilaterally left by the other partner in a relationship that was otherwise stable (e.g. they initiate a divorce) Unreasonable situations: child from an one-night stand, FWB, affair, non-serious relationship
/r/MensRights21/04/17 10:12 PM
1

Oh FFS
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 02:03 AM
3

sighs that's going to end up being a shit show.
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 02:02 AM
1

I am partial to the Street Guardian. Make sure to get one with a capacitor if you live in a hotter climate; the capacitors hold up better than batteries. I as able to power mine from the power source for the auto-dimming mirror, so only about 3 inches of cable.
/r/MGTOW21/04/17 02:00 AM
3

That is in the modern world, with modern laws. Men are afraid of having to pay child support. Remove the social and legal obligations, and this fear would likely be removed as well.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 04:09 PM
1

Also, why is she a single mother would also be an issue for some. This is the big one for me. How did she get into that situation? I don't want to have kids, so I wouldn't get in a relationship with a single mother regardless, but I don't always view them with derision. There are many reasonable situations that could lead to single motherhood (or single fatherhood, for that matter). And there are also some very contemptible reasons.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 03:48 PM
2

It also found that masturbating a lot when younger decreases health problems in later life. Well, I should be good to go then ;-)
/r/MensRights20/04/17 03:42 PM
2

zing!
/r/MensRights20/04/17 03:40 PM
3

And not to pile on, but it was a United flight. And here we go Seriously though, fathers are treated like they're criminals. I'm not sure why any man would choose to have children in this political, social, and legal environment.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 05:43 AM
2

'll probably get equal shit for saying this, but she's not even super hot. I mean, she's a 9 or so...But DEFINITELY not top tier in terms of Hollywood or "famous" broad standards. It's true though. I see women of her level of attractiveness just when I'm out in public on a fairly regular basis, and I'm a bit of a shut-in. If we didn't have an obesity epidemic in the U.S., she wouldn't even really stand out from the crowd. Once you realize that attractiveness isn't particularly rare, or even that…
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:57 PM
3

That, and I want my fucking self-driving electric car. Even if I don't end up buying a Tesla, it is putting at least some pressure on other auto manufacturers to get their shit in gear. He's shaking things up, and that is a good thing. I want autonomous, and I want electric. I'll buy from whoever can deliver if it's affordable and the quality is there.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:43 PM
6

Men who are married spend more hours at work than single men do, whereas married women spend fewer hours at work than single women do. Hahahahaha! It sounds like getting married sucks for men and is a good deal for women.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:33 PM
3

there aren't enough 'good men' to go around All this talk about "where are the good men" or "not enough good men to go around" pisses me the fuck off because it has a checklist for men but doesn't hold women to any standards.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:27 PM
8

Yep. The only way marriage will ever get reformed to make it less of a financial suicide is when the courts start to drop the hammer on women. Still not going back to the plantation.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:24 PM
21

There's just no winning. Except to not play the game, of course.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:21 PM
7

Or as I've seen put before, "women have a glass ceiling, but they also have a glass floor"
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:19 PM
7

Thanks goodness we don't have a real HR department where I work. If you have a problem, go to your supervisor. If you have a problem with your supervisor, go to the head motherfucker in charge. Yes, I work for a male-dominated small company.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:17 PM
6

I'm always amazed how makeup can change the apparent shape of various facial features. At what point does it become more like a mask?
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 08:04 PM
21

Her money = her money, his money = their money
/r/MGTOW15/04/17 05:39 PM
1

I'm not too concerned about the welfare of the witnesses. After all, they are willingly watching someone being murdered. If they can't handle it, that's on them.
/r/MensRights15/04/17 04:44 PM
3

Tired of botched hangings where the head pops-off That ... doesn't sound like it's botched. Sounds like it would be rather "effective" in killing, if not a bit messy. FWIW, I'm opposed to the death penalty for several reasons, but that's a discussion for another time.
/r/MensRights15/04/17 05:52 AM
3

Tesla or GTFO! Interestingly enough, I don't think Tesla advertises at all. Insulting me is not a good way to get me to buy your product.
/r/MGTOW14/04/17 04:08 PM
4

Yep, when I did international travel I realized that very few men (from 1st-world nations at least) are truly incel. Even an ugly, social inept man from a western nation can do ok. That said, I still wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 02:40 PM
9

I think of an incel MGTOW as someone who is incel, says "fuck it", and just moves on with their lives instead of fixating on trying to get laid.
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 02:35 PM
3

I think there is even more incentive for short men to go MGTOW than for taller men. And ... because of men's thirst for pussy, it seems that tall men like to shit on short men. And I've even seen short men give grief to men who are shorter. Trying to compete for women's attention makes men act like douche bags.
/r/MGTOW10/04/17 02:32 PM
1

If Your Partner Keeps Asking For Sex After You Refuse, Until You Finally Say Yes So ... like every married man ever? Also, I know quite a few guys who have been raped if we go by this metric.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 04:59 PM
1

Hahaha! I was thinking the exact same thing. Who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters!
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 04:52 PM
1

Why do you think it's just going to be some material that they dig up? I mean, surely you wouldn't make such a statement about medications: well, we've explored everything and what we've got is it. It's going to be a lot more complex than just swapping out materials in the cells. I mean, the guy that invented lithium batteries has recently come up with a technology that might be even better once it's been fully developed.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 06:25 AM
2

I don't think lithium batteries are going to be the future of EVs. Lithium supply aside, they are a rather serious bottleneck in terms of capacity and charging speed. I expect some other technology to take over before EVs are able to become truly mainstream.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 05:03 AM
2

<Dueling Banjos is playing in my head>
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 04:19 AM
2

The benefits might be good, but that still doesn't prevent the veterans from being disproportionately homeless.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 04:14 AM
1

Will these fucking oil wars stop once we hit some % penetration of electric automobiles? Yes, I know oil is still needed for other things, but EVs can't hurt.
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 04:09 AM
2

invading other countries and killing people there is illegal It's only illegal if you lose
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 04:07 AM
1

Do you really think that the war in Iraq (a country that had no ability whatsoever to attack the U.S.) was to protect your freedom? It protected our freedom to have low gas prices!
/r/MGTOW08/04/17 04:04 AM
19

Men allow themselves to get friendzoned. There is one simple way to avoid being friendzoned: be prepared to walk away, and actually follow through on it. If I want to fuck a woman and she isn't interested, I move on. I don't hang around, waste time, and hope she'll change her mind. I won't be the "nice guy". Being friends with someone because you have an ulterior motive is a really shitty thing to do anyway. And never once have I gotten rejected and given the "let's be friends" spiel, and it be …
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 10:05 PM
3

Trying to make a generalization about a group of people ranging in age from early 20s to 30s is a bit silly, no? Generation labels are pretty damn stupid to begin with. I was born in the early 80s and am sometimes considered a millennial, but I have much more in common with someone born in the late 70s than someone born in the late 90s. The largest increment we should use is by decades (80s, 90s, etc). That also has the advantage of being unambiguous, since you can probably find 20 different def…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 09:53 PM
7

MGTOW is, first and foremost, about self-preservation and survival. It is about acknowledging how things actually are, not how things should be. If you aren't in any real danger, if the woman hitting you isn't a credible threat, it's probably best to just try and get the fuck away. Yes, she deserves to get hit back, but it's important to acknowledge the realities of what would happen. Even with credible threats, I'm almost always going to opt for "flee" unless my escape path has been cut off. Pa…
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 04:48 PM
9

Yep, and due to imputed income, you can be locked into higher payments even if you hate your job and are suffering burnout. Want an easier career? Nope! The courts say you must pay xx amount based on your past earnings. Keep up with the treadmill or you'll go to jail.
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 02:41 AM
3

Get a vasectomy, never get married, and protect yourself ... because no one else will.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 10:08 PM
2

Yep, this seems like yet another reason (not that I need any more) to not have kids. Not only to spare myself from suspicious looks, but also to make sure that I don't have a son who will have to endure the same.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 10:06 PM
3

Repeat from yesterday: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/63nd2q/retirement_dream_postponed_by_22_years_due_to/
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 09:58 PM
-1

Am I the only one put off by even the name: Secret Service? It sounds an awful lot like "secret police," which could go along with secret courts and secret prisons. Edit: lol, looks like I struck a nerve. C'mon, you have to admit that it's a shitty name.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 06:26 PM
1

"Disco Stu don't advertise"
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 04:32 PM
1

Fathers in intact families (e.g. married to the mother, and thus not paying child support) don't have these sort of stipulations. Also, the state doesn't dictate to mothers how much they have to make. Mothers can have children whom they cannot support and don't face jail time for it.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 03:59 PM
6

1 in 4 men, 1 in 7 women? Are there are lot of lesbian marriages going on? Or men waiting until after 50 and marrying women younger than 50?
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 10:41 PM
4

https://www.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/comments/63le6m/my_plan_to_retire_at_35/dfvjx1e/ I knew it was one of us. Clicked back to this thread, and sure enough ... Anyone who refutes this is being delusional or outright dishonest.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 09:16 PM
18

My vasectomy has been an integral part of my retirement portfolio.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 09:06 PM
4

Yep! I make a decent (but hardly spectacular) income and am not particularly frugal. Even then, I'm on track to be able to retire by age 50. I've crunched the numbers and could squeeze a few years sooner if I really pushed myself.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 09:05 PM
16

Pepperidge Farm remembers
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 09:02 PM
2

Once you have kids, the state gets to dictate how much money you have to make, which can railroad you into a career that you hate or if you are rushing headlong into burnout. Because "fuck you!" that's why. This almost sounds like literal slavery. “I find that the applicant father made the conscious choice to earn so much less that he must bear the consequences,” Magda said. - Thus this 51-year-old man, who now earns about $65,000 a year (or about $5,400 a month before taxes) Really? I think an …
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 08:59 PM
2

Fucking damn it. People like her make it really fucking difficult for young people who don't want to have children to be taken seriously, and it undermines said young people from getting sterilization surgeries. My goal is to be compensated by the State of California for the doctor's decision NO! She wasn't deceived or pressured into sterilization. No one tried to sell it to her. She made the active decision to seek out and get it done. She made a decision and needs to own it. I can't even belie…
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 08:39 PM
14

And still acts like the girl on the far left.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 08:27 PM
27

2 Fat 2 Furious
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 08:26 PM
2

Seems like a good reason to not have children. Not that I didn't have enough reasons already.
/r/MGTOW05/04/17 08:21 PM
2

Well yeah, because women are paid less! /s
/r/MGTOW04/04/17 06:15 PM
5

Good. They need to know while they are still young, before they've had the chance to ruin their lives by getting married or getting someone pregnant.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 12:24 AM
3

OP wasn't issuing a command, just contributing an opinion. But ... you might want to reconsider. Regardless of what you think about OP's opinion, getting bitch-slapped by the court system is not a good time. There is a strong self-preservation component to opting out of fatherhood in this social, political, and legal environment.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 12:17 AM
8

/r/antinatalism I never heard about antinatalism philosophy until a discussion on another MGTOW forum. I sort of came to the conclusion on my own already, but that really cemented it. I think that not having children is a great kindness, even if it is done for your own personal benefit such as protecting yourself from our malignant court system.
/r/MGTOW03/04/17 12:14 AM
3

I want a Tesla in the worst way, but I don't want people to look at me with $$ signs in their eyes. I want one because they are very fast, superb handling, top-tier safety, and come with a plethora of convenience features. If I could have all that in a non-descript Toyota, I'd be just as happy.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 08:46 PM
8

I have but one regret about my vasectomy: waiting so long to get one. Congratulations! I wish more men would open their eyes and see how detrimental marriage and fatherhood really are, and take control of their future by getting the snip. I view my vasectomy as an amputation of sorts. It amputated a potential source of major bullshit from my life, a source of extreme stress and financial ruin.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 08:41 PM
1

In terms of preserving my personal rights and freedom, getting vasectomy was probably the best thing I've ever done in my life.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 08:32 PM
15

My thoughts: your mess, your problem. What kind of man would knowingly let himself get cucked.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 08:20 PM
18

Nope, I reject gender roles. I am a MGTOW and don't want my role dictated to me based upon the plumbing I was born with. I reject being a "provider" and being disposable. Gender equality in the home and outside the home. Equal rights AND equal responsibilities. Women need to get caught up on the latter.
/r/MGTOW02/04/17 08:18 PM
3

Agreed. Americans are dependent on automobiles because of the way cities in the U.S. have been laid out, as well as the lack of sufficient public transit in all but a few cities. Compared to Europe and other nations, we are completely dependent on cars. I feel bad for anyone who is unable to drive (e.g. visual problems, seizures) or are shitty drivers and know they shouldn't really be driving but have little other choice. Automobiles aren't a symbol of freedom, they are a symbol of dependence in…
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 04:03 AM
22

I'm guessing that is what precipitated the change in behavior from "tattoo wedding bands" to flying off the deep end. He found out. Or perhaps he knew before, and thought of the wedding bands in a last-ditch effort to try and hang on to "repair" the relationship.
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 03:49 AM
4

I don't get it either. You have men who have actually been (or currently are) married straight up telling you that it's a shitty deal. Yet men are signing up for it in droves.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 03:14 PM
5

Who can do me a huge favor and has a car? Don't ever let this skank borrow your car, or you might end up like this guy: Ryan Holle Incidentally, that seems like an extreme misapplication of the felony murder rule, since lending someone your car is not a felony and is not even illegal under ordinary circumstances. I can guarantee that a woman would have never got LWOP (or anything even remotely approaching it) under these same circumstances.
/r/MGTOW30/03/17 01:14 AM
5

Do you have something to substantiate this claim?
/r/MGTOW28/03/17 05:21 AM
2

I almost shot soda out of my nose. That is fucking hilarious.
/r/MGTOW28/03/17 05:10 AM
4

Yeah, I was going to say something to the effect of: I don't want kids That's a good thing. If only they'd show some follow-through with the one good thing on their list.
/r/MGTOW28/03/17 05:07 AM
1

But that's different than actually making a SAHM illegal, which is what the article discusses.
/r/MensRights28/03/17 12:29 AM
2

Do men get the option of a fully paid year off every 8.5 years to compensate for this disparity in rights and our ignored medical predicament that gives us shorter lives? Yeah, we should get 3 days off every 28 days for "shorter lifespan" or something. In the U.S., Social Security benefits are not adjusted for gender, even though women have a longer lifespan than men. So this would seem like a transfer of wealth from men to women.
/r/MensRights27/03/17 10:50 PM
1

Insanity aside: how could one even practically legislate this? I mean, what about women who are actually unemployed (i.e. involuntary)?
/r/MensRights27/03/17 10:43 PM
1

MEN are still held legally responsible for child support. Some men for the entirety of financially supporting a child. Yeah, I'm a big big supporter of "her body, her choice" when it comes to abortion/birth, but this also needs to come with a "her responsibility". She should have 100% final say on whether the pregnancy is carried to term or aborted, full stop. But she should also be responsible for that decision instead of trying to have it both ways. In order to ensure support should she decide…
/r/MensRights27/03/17 10:38 PM
1

Well that's a new one. Now, not only do we have secret accusers and secret evidence, but secret judges! Now we just need secret police and secret prisons! /s
/r/MensRights27/03/17 10:30 PM
1

(if you can name them) Most of stated benefits for men to get married are dubious at best, or they are mixing up cause and effect (e.g. married men earn more vs. higher-earning men more likely to marry).
/r/MensRights27/03/17 10:28 PM
3

Wow...TIL. I've never heard of someone having a hairy shaft.
/r/MensRights27/03/17 10:19 PM
14

I'd certainly remember that stunt when it comes time to find a retirement/nursing home.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 08:55 PM
6

Depends on how tall you are. 5'9" / $60K vs 5'2" / $130K
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 04:34 PM
16

Yep. Video games are, by most measures, really cheap. The consoles (or PC) might cost a bit of money upfront, though most people have PCs already that are capable of gaming even if they aren't high-end gaming machines. Games themselves are really inexpensive when looked at as cost-per-hour, and free games are widely available. For the cost of a night on the town, you can buy multiple games that can provide hundreds of hours of entertainment.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 04:26 PM
2

And employers have failed to embrace telecommuting. Even those who can't telecommute would benefit (via lower traffic volume) from more widespread use of telecommuting.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 04:18 PM
26

Naw, he can just stand on his wallet for those extra inches.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 03:45 PM
21

Yep, she could have just blocked/ignored/whatever instead of engaging in conversation.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 03:42 PM
47

Lol, I DO make an extra 10K for each inch under 6'. No, this slag can't have any of it.
/r/MGTOW27/03/17 03:39 PM
10

Yeah, I made a post on /r/childfree about how I'm MGTOW and not a misogynist and got downvoted into the abyss. The problem isn't women, the problem is white knights and government who enable shitty behavior. If the laws favored men in such a way, most men would act like shits too. This can often be seen with rich "alpha" men who can get away with tons of shenanigans that average men cannot, though they are not immune to the ravages of divorce, alimony, and obscene child support payments. And yet…
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:20 PM
3

And what, exactly, does being "mature" get you? Heartache, alimony, and child-support payments? Getting shot at in some shithole so that I can make someone else rich? No thanks! I'd rather be the guy on the right, even if that makes me "immature".
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:12 PM
1

Man on the left?
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:10 PM
3

In all fairness, the person who made these also shames women. I've seen other slides, with the exact same diagram on the far right, that talk about "real women" and shit on the childfree, regardless of gender.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:10 PM
2

He is judging people on their behavior, something they choose, not on inherent unchangeable aspects of themselves.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:06 PM
2

I've learned that a big part of life is to recognize your advantages and your disadvantages, and then work on capitalizing on your advantages while mitigating the impact of your disadvantages. IOW, play to your strengths.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 09:03 PM
2

I was also thinking about when Tywin eats a crossbow bolt while he's taking a shit.
/r/MGTOW26/03/17 04:54 PM
3

America's unequal justice system for rape survivors. Don't even get me started on the inequities in our justice legal sytem. Inequities between economic classes, races, gender, etc. How men are more likely to get convicted, serve longer sentences, and are imprisoned in much worse conditions.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 07:35 PM
1

Lack of conviction should not be equated to a false accusation. It simply means that there isn't enough evidence to prove the case.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 07:34 PM
36

Or how about: what benefit is there for me to get married? What do I gain by getting married? What makes that massive downside risk worthwhile? The question shouldn't be "why aren't you getting married," but rather "why would you get married."
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 04:53 PM
15

From the comments: If these nerds are really smart they would just pump-and-dump these women. And a vasectomy. This is key.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 04:51 PM
1

Insanity aside: how could one even practically legislate this? I mean, what if the women is actually unemployed (i.e. involuntary)?
/r/MensRights24/03/17 04:01 PM
2

It must have numbered in the hundreds. But you have the power to bed hundreds of women ? I think OP was talking about sexual encounters without condoms. Likely multiple times with a smaller number of women.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 09:59 PM
1

I took a quick glance at his page. It looks like he has exactly ONE facial expression.
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 02:49 PM
14

I'm MGTOW and I'm not for any of this. I'm not "waiting" for the collapse, but I would say that I acknowledge that it might happen and am planning accordingly. MGTOW is not a movement. There is no organization to it, no leadership, and no one can really speak for us as individuals. That's really the entire point of it. MGTOW is a mindset of self-ownership, rejection of the "lifescript", and adapting for self-preservation. It is about acknowledging the harsh truths of society and this world and r…
/r/MensRights23/03/17 02:45 PM
2

They are betrayers of their own kind.
/r/MensRights23/03/17 02:36 PM
6

By definition, not everyone can be an "above average" worker.
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 08:14 PM
1

White knight manginas are the real problem, as they enable shitty behavior.
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 07:58 PM
9

And the speaker of that quote had the fucking nerve to wonder why so many refused to vote for her. She acted as if she was pre-ordained, or I should say entitled, to have the vote of people in my age group. I knew exactly what a vote for her would bring, and I said "fuck no!"
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 07:55 PM
3

Jobs that pay reasonably? Jobs that you are qualified for? Jobs that are in your location?
/r/MGTOW21/03/17 07:17 PM
4

The women over at /r/childfree are particularly excited by the prospect of high-efficacy male contraceptives. Some of these women have bad reactions to hormonal, others just want to double-up on the protection.
/r/MensRights21/03/17 04:01 PM
3

My general recommendation, because I consider waiting years for Vasalgel too risky (unless you practice celibacy): freeze sperm + vasectomy. The price of accidentally getting a woman pregnant is too high to take any chances.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 09:03 PM
2

I don't want a switch that can turn it back on ;-) And given the "clearing times" for vasectomy, I am skeptical that this can just turn it on/off. Even when you cut the pipe, it takes a few months to clear it all out.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:49 PM
5

Vasalgel will be an absolute game-changer. I think animal trials have been successfully completed, and human trials begin next year. I would expect maybe 2020 before you can run out and get the shot. Although I've had a vasectomy, I donate to Parsemus Foundation (they are developing Vasalgel) because I consider male contraceptives to be the single greatest need to protect men's rights. There are other important issues, but I consider this to be the most egregious. The current contraceptive optio…
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:49 PM
1

They don’t have children I consider this a good thing though.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:35 PM
3

Maybe it's weaksauce, but I think I'd rather just "travel" using VR equipment if the travel is just sight-seeing. A single short vacation, complete with flights, hotels, etc could buy a full VR setup. And when I say setup, I mean a new VR-capable computer, headset, and omnidirectional treadmill (these aren't out yet, but can pre-order for $500) Is it a true substitution? No! But it's also re-usable and will be useful for gaming. And it doesn't come with the whole host of inconveniences that actu…
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:26 PM
8

If one really wants to leave a legacy, do something noteworthy with your life. Having children isn't "noteworthy" in the context that I'm talking about. People remember famous inventors, scientists, artists, philosophers, etc for centuries. Someone who has a few children will be forgotten within 100 years, when everyone who knew them has died.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:13 PM
7

Hahaha, I bet jealousy is a big component. Meanwhile, I can max my retirement accounts every year and have a decent shot of retiring before age 50.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:10 PM
9

I actually learned about antinatalism from a fellow on another MGTOW forum. Reading David Benatar's "Better Never to Have Been" was a real eye-opener for me. Welcome to the fold.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:06 PM
1

Unless said cat is OK with it. I have a really sociable cat that would probably take to this just fine. He's always out and about if I have house visitors, and he isn't startled by loud noises like most cats. But yeah, it would be absolutely shitty for most cats.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 08:03 PM
12

CGTOW
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 07:57 PM
5

Ugh, you're probably right. They are probably going to kill that crocodile because some idiot basically threw himself at it.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 02:27 PM
13

And that was very nearly accompanied by a Darwin Award.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 02:26 PM
2

And ... saved!
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 04:26 AM
2

Not demoralizing, just saying that I see zero reason why it will be any better. I'm putting my money on "worse." Time will only tell. I don't necessarily want to be right, it's just my prediction.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 12:16 AM
1

the only way to make it up is immigration. Or automation, and a shift in our economic system to accommodate this change.
/r/MGTOW20/03/17 12:14 AM
8

To Anita Sarkeesian - you are no longer relevant. Now begone.
/r/MensRights19/03/17 11:21 PM
4

Men make more than women = discrimination and oppression Women make more than men = progress Fucking hypocrites
/r/MensRights19/03/17 11:18 PM
3

all she has to do is hit herself Made me think of the scene in Fight Club where Edward Norton confronts his boss.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 11:13 PM
2

I had to watch the "shhhh" scene.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 11:11 PM
2

It an always get worse.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:30 PM
1

And you think they'll be any better? I just see things getting worse, with no real end in sight.
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:28 PM
1

That sounds like a challenge. Be careful issuing such challenge, someone might step up!
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 08:24 PM
1

Have you ever been to rural America? No jobs, no shopping, no entertainment, no services, few friends. Everything looks run-down or abandoned. And if you are some type of non-conformist, you are going to have a really bad time. Small towns and rural areas are thoroughly depressing. Even as an MGTOW, I'd rather live in a small/medium city (the mega-cities are WAY too congested for my likes) where I can sort of just disappear in obscurity and still have multiple employment options and just about e…
/r/MGTOW19/03/17 07:47 PM
3

Well, they can use fines or jail time. Interfering with someone's ability to work is not part of the sentencing, therefore I do not consider it a legitimate part of the punishment. Also, removing someone's ability to be gainfully employed is a fairly sure fire way to make sure that someone resorts to crime. It's not like someone is just going to sit there and starve to death; they are going to start taking. There are few things more dangerous than someone who has nothing left to lose. The cynic …
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:53 AM
1

The low-end acceleration with electric motors is going to be superb.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:36 AM
12

I could literally smell her cunt when I walked past her room. Gags One of my friends had like a super-crush on this one girl. I mean like the beta-orbiter stuff of legends. We went over to her place, maybe a month or so after she shit out a kid. She was knocked up by some POS druggie. I'll never forget the fucking smell when we went into her room. It took every ounce of effort to keep a straight face and not recoil from the stench.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:07 AM
3

Why the fuck should things like this affect the ability to get a job. It's complete bullshit. Unless a criminal conviction (NEVER arrests, accusations, charges, or anything other than convictions) is for a crime that pertains to the job in question, this information should be for the legal system only. I mean, we don't want convicted sex offenders working at schools, and security clearances should obviously have some checks as well. So how, exactly, is even a conviction of prostitution (or whate…
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 02:00 AM
2

I so very much wanted to buy a Tesla. I can afford it, but it would stifle my ability to save/invest far more than I can justify. I want to GTFO of the rat race, so saving/investing is a really high priority for me.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 12:39 AM
3

I don't think I could spend money on something called a "scat" pack
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 12:37 AM
3

Yep. I'm all about the /r/financialindependence , but I don't take it to the extreme that some people do. The takeaway for me is to spend selectively. Don't spend frivolously or needlessly, but it's OK to spend when it will add value to my life. If a bitchin' car will add value to your life, then budget appropriately and get one.
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 12:33 AM
3

give you the sex The once-a-month "duty" sex
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 12:28 AM
4

A degree mill? But those really exist!
/r/MGTOW17/03/17 12:11 AM
2

Because nationalism and racism. They want the "right" kind of people. I would expect a minimum amount of improvements to be dangled in front of us before they resort to mass immigration. Mass immigration would likely lead to a shift in politics and changes in the law anyway, since policy would itself be shaped by the immigrants if they arrived in large enough numbers to counteract the fertility rate dropping into the abyss.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 09:40 PM
3

Marriage is down big in my age group and single motherhood is up big time As long as the supply of future worker drones, taxpayers, and cannon fodder remains strong, nothing will ever change. It is only when birth rates drop into the shitter that we might start to see meaningful improvements.
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 09:07 PM
21

I consider MGTOW to be an adaptation / survival strategy. It's also a rejection of the lifescript, including much of our gender roles (e.g. roles in marriage, male disposability). In short, I'd answer your question with a "yes." It's hard to imagine the circumstances changing in such a way as to un-MGTOW however. Simply rolling back the clock wouldn't work, as I would reject the traditional lifescript even if women were still bound to it. I have no interest in parenting, even if family law was b…
/r/MGTOW10/03/17 04:42 PM
3

And it's a reason why I ended up buying a new car. I would have been content saving money and keeping my old car (it was well-maintained and ran just fine), but it lacks a lot of modern features such as side airbags. Sad that I feel the need to spend a bunch of money because other people are putting me in danger. Just as you had to give up a (presumably) enjoyable form of transportation. One of my coworkers rides a motorcycle and has told me of several near misses. Really eye-opening to think th…
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 06:03 PM
2

/r/dashcam has some good suggestions. I have a Street Guardian. I recommend that whatever you get uses a capacitor instead of a battery because it will hold up better in temperature extremes. The Street Guardian isn't cheap, but sometimes you get what you pay for. I've had it for almost a year with zero issues.
/r/MGTOW08/03/17 05:59 PM
1

16-year-old female Uh oh, they said "female". I'm triggered now. Are they going to force the judge to apologize? /s
/r/MensRights08/03/17 04:55 PM
3

It escaped everyone’s attention, except mine, that no offers of help came from women. I've seen various article shaming men to step up and give their seats up for pregnant women. Why can't other women be the ones to step up and give up their seats? Wouldn't that make sense in some sort of "pay it forward" way, or paying back if they have been previously pregnant?
/r/MensRights07/03/17 10:52 PM
2

It's based on the "best interests of the child", which is often interpreted in the court of law (where such interpretations actually matter) to mean financial support from both parents. This is also how you end up with cases where a man has to pay child support even though he isn't the father.
/r/MensRights07/03/17 10:41 PM
2

Note: the NSW law change took effect for children conceived after 1/1/2010, regardless of when the sperm was originally donated. That sounds like a fucking nightmare scenario.
/r/MensRights07/03/17 10:36 PM
2

jailed For fucking real?
/r/MensRights07/03/17 10:30 PM
3

Because some people will find a way to complain about anything, no matter how forced or convoluted the mental gymnastics are.
/r/MensRights07/03/17 10:27 PM
3

Regarding point 1, this selection bias would also explain why married men have higher incomes. It isn't that married men earn more, it's that higher earners are more likely to get roped into marriage.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 10:04 PM
2

My big reservation with moving to the countryside is: where to work? Unless you are retired or can work remotely, you're probably going to still have to deal with traffic jams and such just getting to/from work. I'm fortunate that my job is in a suburban area, so I can live in a quiet, low-crime suburb while still being close to work and any sort of shopping (e.g. groceries). I do have neighbors, but at least I live in a single-family home instead of an apartment, so it isn't much of an issue. I…
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 10:01 PM
7

That jar/tub looks much closer to 1 gallon than 1 quart. All I know is that shit will go straight to your gut. I like nutella, but even their small jar will last me quite a while since I use it very sparingly.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 09:55 PM
1

they have to be let outside I've had indoor cats my entire life. Most do just fine if they have toys, windows to look out of, aren't alone (I've usually had 2 cats at a time), and get human attention. The cats I have now don't even hang around the door or display any other inclination of wanting to go outside.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 09:51 PM
2

I do not get this acting like they are domestic creatures and putting clothes on them and spending on their healthcare like they are human. Uh ... cats that are socialized with humans while still kittens can most definitely be friendly and affectionate towards people. Don't be so surprised that the ones left outside, left to die ("every winter half would die or run off") wouldn't be particularly friendly to people. You're damn right I'll get vet care for one of my cats if they are injured or ill…
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 09:48 PM
17

That jar of Nutella is probably 3 weeks worth of the recommended number of calories.
/r/MGTOW07/03/17 09:31 PM
7

??? I'm not sure how your comment contributes anything of value here, or what it is that I'm even supposed to "go cry about". Pretty sure this is just a troll response.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 07:40 PM
1

So if a father's claim doesn't meet the burden of proof necessary for conviction, he would still have to pay child support? This seems to be an all-or-nothing approach. And that says nothing about the time factor when getting a case to trial. The abortion window could have already passed by the time a case goes to trial and a verdict has been rendered. I'm not talking about false accusations either. Acquittal does not necessarily mean false accusation and should not be interpreted as such, it si…
/r/MensRights06/03/17 07:27 PM
1

You don't get to dismiss it when it breaks into the top 10 for overall across all age groups, even against natural causes of death which claim most lives. I'm sure we can stop worrying about murder too. If suicides are insignificant, then so too must homicides. After all, suicides outnumber homicides by a factor of about 2.5x. (about 16K homicides vs 42K suicides) exceptional circumstances such as automobile accidents Not that exceptional, really. Lifetime risk of dying in an automobile accident…
/r/MensRights06/03/17 07:20 PM
0

I'm glad it has ended up fine for them, but it does not always go that way. Suicide is the second leading cause in my age group (early 30s), second only to the catch-all "unintentional injuries" which includes automobile accidents. It exceeds homicides by a more than 50% margin. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/injury/images/lc-charts/leading_causes_of_death_age_group_2014_1050w760h.gif
/r/MensRights06/03/17 06:56 PM
1

You've never known anyone who is depressed and/or suicidal? Consider yourself lucky. I definitely know people (IRL) who would prefer to have never been.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 06:48 PM
2

I see what you did there!
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 06:47 PM
1

Her hairstyle and the 10 pounds of make-up in the article pictures aren't doing her any favors. I still think she could clean up nicely if she'd do something different with her hair and ease off the clown paint.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 06:21 PM
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Actually, I believe that single mothers are the norm in most of the animal kingdom. But so is rape, infanticide, and other forms of murder. I don't think we should try using the animal kingdom as a model for how humans ought to behave.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 06:18 PM
1

Nice way to avoid the question.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 06:16 PM
10

As a night owl, someone who tends to pick up momentum as I've been up longer, I say "fuck mornings."
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 06:15 PM
23

I hate this conflating of late-sleepers with laziness. I could counter by saying that early-risers are slacking by going to bed early so that they are able to get up early, but I don't. I don't wake up early because I don't go to bed early. It's fairly simple, really.
/r/MGTOW06/03/17 06:13 PM
1

I have already said that I believe fathers should be able to sign away parental rights in the case of being raped. This becomes rather thorny though. Does it require a rape accusation? A conviction? If it requires a conviction, and the mother is acquitted, what then?
/r/MensRights06/03/17 06:01 PM
1

For many women that would result in their entire family disowning them. But that is a punishment imposed by her family and does not carry the weight of the legal system. If that is the what she is actually facing, then her family probably isn't too fond of her having pre-marital sex to begin with. Also, it would be wise for her to abort privately and never mention it. There isn't an abortion registry or some sort of public record. She can get pregnant and abort without anyone ever knowing. Depen…
/r/MensRights06/03/17 05:53 PM
1

Being prohibited by her religion does not carry the weight of the legal system. Also, it is very likely that such religion would prohibit premarital sex as well. People seem to pick and choose which parts of religion to follow.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 05:23 PM
1

Is this not better than children who are unwanted or for whom the parents don't have the ability (not just financial, though this seems to be the most commonly cited) to care for?
/r/MensRights06/03/17 05:21 PM
1

In all fairness, however: abortions DO need to become more widely available and even taxpayer subsidized, when necessary. The ridiculous religious stigma against abortions needs to be extirpated from popular culture and government policies.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 05:18 PM
1

No, actually an opt-in is exactly how it would need to be done in order to be workable. That avoids a lot of the weird "timing" issues pertaining to the pregnancy and abortion windows. This solution is so blatantly obvious that I'm not even sure why anyone would go down the road of opt-out when coming up with something like this.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 05:15 PM
1

I see no gain for me by marrying, but lots of liability.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 05:06 PM
3

The question that needs to be asked is: "What course of action could one take that would not result in them being in legal trouble? Where is their out if they need to defend themselves against a bully?"
/r/MensRights04/03/17 08:51 PM
1

No worries. I was very very confused there for a few minutes.
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 11:06 PM
1

Yes it is, you have no place to dictate who or what reproduces. There's quite a gulf between "I don't think anyone should be reproducing" and "I'm going to push my beliefs on others." I believe a lot of things, but I don't go around telling people what to do. I'll offer advice, if requested, or discuss beliefs on forums that are designed for such purpose (such as here). But for sake of argument, do you apply this to people who give others shit for wanting to not have kids? Would you stand up for…
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 10:55 PM
11

It could have been posted to serve as a PSA to men. The person who made the poster might not be advocating the way things are, just acknowledging them and posting it as a warning. Even if things are flagrantly bullshit, we should still adapt to it if for no reason other than self-preservation.
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 10:08 PM
1

Like you say that black men should stop dating black women. What a load of bullshit. Is it bullshit if I believe that everyone should stop reproducing? I don't limit or base my assessment on race. We should ALL stop reproducing. I am not excluding people of my own race when I say "all".
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 07:21 PM
2

This makes me think of the focus on black men as the primary victims of police violence, when the focus ought to be on men. The divide between men and women is much greater than the divide between black men and white men. White men are the victim's of police violence at a higher rate than black women. This is primarily a men's issue, though I don't want to disregard that being black is an additional factor.
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 07:17 PM
1

Bon bons
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 08:20 AM
2

Dogs are also very needy, while cats are more independent.
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 08:17 AM
1

I have also heard that male cats are friendlier than female cats. I don't have a large enough sample size to assert or contest this claim. I currently have a (neutered) male cat. Very friendly, even to visitors.
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 08:15 AM
3

My 3 decades of experiences with cats is calling bullshit on anyone who bitches about cats not being affectionate or able to love.
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 08:08 AM
1

How many of these cunts give away their cats (often a death sentence for the cat) because they're going to be shitting out a kid. They use the excuse about time or attention or whatever. Fucking ridiculous. If a cat is too much trouble for them, they're going to have a really bad time with a child.
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 07:59 AM
2

That's ... a better / more concise description, yes!
/r/MGTOW26/02/17 06:24 AM
2

The initial 2 tests (at 6 and 12 weeks) were included with the vasectomy and basically considered "mandatory." I mean, they can't force you to do it, but the vasectomy isn't considered complete until these first 2 tests. Normally, they don't have you test after the first 2 unless there is a problem. As for cost: I don't know since I have insurance and it is covered. I imagine it can't be that much though.
/r/MGTOW25/02/17 12:57 AM
2

No, but it has a lifetime failure rate of about 1 in 2000. At that point, there are a lot of other risks that I'm more concerned about. I get it re-tested annually and get on with my life.
/r/MGTOW24/02/17 02:52 PM
3

I got a vasectomy at 30. Maybe not "magical powers", but it was definitely a game changer. I do regret the vasectomy though. I regret waiting until I was 30 and not having it done several years sooner.
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 06:10 PM
6

In other words: throw a lot of time, money, and effort down the shitter by doing something that I strongly dislike so that I can spend a small amount of time doing something that I do like.
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 06:07 PM
5

On the plus side I'm still childfree It looks like you got through without doing any permanent damage then.
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 06:05 PM
4

My vasectomy And this, right here, is key. I wish more men were willing to get the snip. It is liberating, as it protects me against one of the most insidious traps out there, one that society encourages men to rush headlong into.
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 06:02 PM
4

Wow ... that makes my brain hurt. Sure didn't wait long to get on some other guy's dick. Try not to suck any dick on the way through the parking lot
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 05:54 PM
1

armed with a knife Yeah, tell me how not defending yourself works out for you. if you are hit by a woman and you were actually hurt? Newsflash: a woman with a knife can very easily inflict fatal injuries. Even unarmed, many women are capable of whooping ass. You want to know how I know the author has been in a fucking cave? Ronda Rousey has been over the news. Women's MMA shows that indeed women can kick some ass.
/r/MensRights21/02/17 06:48 PM
3

My comment was sort of serious, sort of a joke. There is a commonly quoted figure that the average woman has 4 sexual partners during a lifetime. So I said "at the same time" as a stab at that extremely suspect statistic. Numbers from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm#numberlifetime And if anyone believes that...
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 04:46 AM
1

"the provider role" is the game these single mothers were selling to men that needed a goal or a drive I have a goal, I have a drive. It's called /r/financialindependence so that I'm not beholden to a job and an employer my entire life. Earn the highest wage I can without taking a shit on my work/life balance, live well below my means, invest, and hopefully be able to retire while I'm still reasonably young.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 02:12 AM
3

Women have an average of four sexual partners. At the same time?
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 02:08 AM
1

someone has to breed. Why? No one has to breed. There is no law of physics that dictates that the human race must continue. Biological / evolutionary drives perhaps, but these can be overcome. People can choose to not reproduce.
/r/MGTOW21/02/17 02:07 AM
5

I would argue that you are less free as a business owner. You take on the debt and the financial/legal risks. For this, you also stand to get much higher rewards if the business becomes highly successful. If I don't like the arrangement I have with my employer, I can give 2 week's notice and resign. I'll need another job, but I am still free to do that.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 03:54 PM
5

Yeah, I don't see how anyone would consider this a "win". Whether you are anti-marriage (e.g. this sub) or pro-marriage, this is fucking fail.
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 03:52 PM
4

More guys are giving up on American women. FTFY
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 03:48 PM
1

Discord is a voice chat program. Commonly used by the gaming community. It allows for voice, text chat, and posting pictures. Clients for PC and phones
/r/MGTOW17/02/17 03:45 PM
1

This is what needs to happen: Get vasalgel to market. This gives men a temporary solution for preventing pregnancy. Due to being temporary, should be available to younger men as compared to vasectomy. Men absolved from child support if vasalgel or vasectomy fails, woman gets pregnant, and she decides not to abort. Yes, the taxpayers would pay the single mother in lieu of child support Because vasalgel and vasectomy are medically verifiable procedures (there would be medical records that these we…
/r/MensRights17/02/17 03:35 PM
2

If truly 55, I don't think he would be considered competent enough to give consent. Switch the genders, and the man would be considered a rapist for preying on the developmentally disabled. Anything under 70 is considered "extremely low": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_classification#IQ_classification_tables_for_current_tests
/r/MensRights17/02/17 03:13 PM
9

Holy fuck! I'm surprised that this turned out to be attempted murder and not ... murder.
/r/MensRights17/02/17 03:08 PM
1

Sad but true
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 06:33 PM
2

DO NOT: get married have children These 2 actions do the most to cede power over your own life. Also, don't sweat about being single and being a virgin. It is only a problem if you allow it to be one. Lastly, I advise you to save as much money as you reasonably can while you are still young. Don't blow it all on expensive shit. The math of compounding investment returns works better when you are younger. Check out /r/financialindependence .
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 06:29 PM
2

NICE! I've set my eyes on/r/financialindependence as well, but I've still got a ways to go. No marriage / no kids can make this dream a reality.
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 06:26 PM
1

I took that to mean "not facially attractive", as opposed to letting yourself go and becoming out of shape. Maybe some plain styling choices as well.
/r/MGTOW16/02/17 06:09 PM
1

And they laughed when I got a vasectomy. Can't lose the child support game if you don't play it. This needs to be a more common line of thought. Nothing will ever change to be more equitable so long as men continue to have children and get hosed by family courts. Business will just continue as usual.
/r/MensRights16/02/17 12:43 AM
9

Even a system of incentives/disincentives for having kids is better than outright banning certain populations from reproduction. Agreed with this, that we should incentivize non-reproduction. The government forcing its will on something like this is really not a road we want to go down. Also, men very much need better contraceptive options ASA-fucking-P. When men have better control over their fertility, the types of issues mentioned by the parent comment would become edge cases. I'd go as far t…
/r/MensRights15/02/17 08:54 PM
1

Yeah, that's why getting a vasectomy was extremely important for me. Annual retesting as well.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 07:50 PM
3

I'm fairly sure that people tend to go to jail, and not prison, for non-payment of child support. I'm sure there's exceptions, but I'd expect that jail is the more prevalent location for this.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 07:49 PM

This needs to be a more common line of thought. Nothing will ever change to be more equitable so long as men continue to have children and get hosed by family courts. Business will just continue as usual.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 07:46 PM
4

Getting a woman pregnant is tantamount to a criminal act. I cannot think of any non-felony crime that carries a greater penalty. Some of the most egregious inequalities that men face can be avoided by not getting married and not having children. I encourage all men to get vasectomies to make sure that they remain in compliance of the law. Don't put yourself into a situation where you might be unable to comply with the court ordered child support payment. No kids = no court ordered child support …
/r/MensRights15/02/17 07:43 PM
6

And someone very recently questioned me on why I don't trust "authority." It's like they were actually surprised that I am distrustful of a corrupt, malignant system.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 07:34 PM
5

This is said as if it is a bad thing, but no one blinks an eye at guys working long hours in unsafe industries in jobs they don't like to provide for their wife and family. The other option is that both situations could be considered bad.
/r/MensRights10/02/17 10:53 PM
1

If one were to look at marriage as an investment, it suffers from very poor diversification and huge downside potential. Admittedly, marrying (and staying married) to someone who makes a decent income can most definitely put one ahead. If I married and stayed married to a financial clone of myself, my finances would be in far better shape. Doubling my income while increasing my expenses by 50% (I'm just pulling a number out of a hat, and housing isn't really a big % of my expenses) would obvious…
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 10:42 PM
2

You know what else will reduce the numbers of children in poverty? Vasectomies. No child = no impoverished child See, I can solve problems too. I asked whether such emphasis on marriage put undue pressure on women to fit into an old-fashioned or patriarchal paradigm. What about whether such emphasis on marriage put undue pressure on men to fit into an old-fashioned role of "provider"? Oh that's right, we don't count. children raised without both their mother and their father have more trouble wi…
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 10:30 PM
15

Don't forget about children. Men who chase women often end up having children. They then work harder, spending more, paying taxes (as you mentioned). But some of those children also grow up to be men who do the same. And so the cycle continues.
/r/MGTOW10/02/17 10:26 PM
2

Yeah, a lot of the claims in the OP chart are dubious at best. Strength, for example, is useful for a lot of day-to-day non-conflict scenarios. Men "win" at physical, verbal, and economic strength. Women "win" at the others. Marriage/divorce strength is part of legal strength, so it's redundant. And actually, I'd argue that legal strength is the very topic of this sub, since men's rights refers to men's legal rights, though I understand that other topics on here are quite relevant as well even i…
/r/MensRights09/02/17 09:41 PM
1

Divide by zero error!
/r/MensRights09/02/17 09:28 PM
2

Getting married and having children are tantamount to criminal acts if you are a man. I cannot think of any non-felony crime that has a greater penalty than 18 years of child support payments or lifetime(!) of alimony.
/r/MensRights09/02/17 09:25 PM
1

Citing a study by the Australian National University, author Sammi Taylor argued that 13 extra hours off every week would make up for “unpaid labour” women have to do around the house, like cooking and cleaning. Newsflash: some men participate equally in the house work, live by themselves, or have male roommates. This type of assumption is ridiculous and offensive.
/r/MensRights08/02/17 05:23 PM
2

One of my goals in life is to never find myself in a courtroom. That almost always means that something bad has happened.
/r/MensRights08/02/17 04:35 PM
2

I wish you the best, and that there is in fact no pregnancy at all. I can't recommend vasectomies highly enough. It was truly life changing for me. For those that do (or might) want children some day, freezing sperm is dirt cheap compared to child support from an accidental pregnancy.
/r/MensRights08/02/17 04:33 PM
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Is there a wage gap, or are men being left behind? There's mounting data that supports that young women are doing better than young men. Citations: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/apr/09/genevieve-wood/what-pay-gap-young-women-out-earn-men-cities-gop-p/ https://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-earn-more-men-same-age-study-finds http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2010-09-01-single-women_N.htm http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/09…
/r/MensRights03/02/17 04:23 PM
1

True, it's easier to have an army of cats if you own than as a renter.
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 09:11 PM
1

The victim is damn lucky that didn't take out an eye. Still fucking terrible.
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 09:09 PM
8

"never hit a woman" That goes right the fuck out the window once someone becomes a credible threat. Someone who has a weapon (including a glass) is a credible threat no questions asked.
/r/MGTOW31/01/17 09:05 PM
1

Someone didn't think their cunning plan all the way through.
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 04:11 PM
1

You don't need a well for RO, you can connect them to the water line if the pressure is sufficient. I believe they even have under-sink systems. If you want something simple, the Pur MaxIon faucet filters (not the pitcher, but the faucet mount) do a fairly good job. They advertise estrone reduction of 96.5% and bisphenol A reduction of 97.7%.
/r/MGTOW26/01/17 07:55 PM
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It's a question of "when" not "if." Women complain about contraception being a "burden", and many have reactions or otherwise don't want to deal with hormonal methods. Women have been clamoring for men to should the burden for a long time. It just needs to be marketed carefully. Vasalgel seems to be a holy grail of sorts: high efficacy, long-lasting (read: removes user-error from the equation), localized effects, and stacks with ALL other contraception options (except vasectomy). If you're conce…
/r/MGTOW26/01/17 07:29 PM
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Enough women have reactions to hormonal birth control, or just don't want to deal with it, that they'd be happy if men could take it. Head on over to /r/childfree . The subscribers are majority women, and they (almost?) universally support more/better contraceptives for men and see that they would benefit from it too. Most women are not childfree, but it is a rapidly growing segment. It just needs to be marketed carefully.
/r/MGTOW26/01/17 05:42 PM
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My mouth is watering in anticipation of Vasalgel, and how it will be such a gamechanger. I've had a vasectomy, so I don't really have a horse in the race. But it will be great watching from the sidelines.
/r/MGTOW26/01/17 05:38 PM
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Agreed. Few things cede more power over your own life than having kids. I'd say it's almost antithetical to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW26/01/17 05:27 PM
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Anyone can be a self-proclaimed star* these days.
/r/MensRights25/01/17 04:13 PM
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Can't help but think of Clerks 37! My girlfriend sucked 37 dicks! In a row?
/r/MGTOW23/01/17 08:33 PM
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The right to protest (which I firmly support) does not give you the right to litter.
/r/MGTOW23/01/17 08:31 PM
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I'm actually rather surprised that black females are more at risk than white males. But black males ... that is crazy.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 03:36 PM
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And if the baby/embryo is a female, does that female get a choice on what happens to her body? This is one of those "divide by zero", universe-breaking conundrums.
/r/MensRights23/01/17 03:34 PM
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So what course of actions would have been legally acceptable? No seriously, what actions can you take that will protect the children while still being legally sound? I figured the court would at least have taken the side of the children in this. The lunacy here knows no bounds. This is completely fucked. It seems like you were put into a Kobayashi Maru (no-win scenario)
/r/MensRights23/01/17 03:24 PM
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This is why I recommend that men who don't want to have children get vasectomies. Male contraceptives seem to be perpetually stuck at "10 years away". They seem to use any excuse at all, any side effect or negative, to delay it. Reproductive rights are a basic human right, yet the government seems hell-bent on infringing upon these rights for men. Freeze + vasectomy (or just vasectomy, if you never want to have kids) are our only real ways to prevent accidental pregnancy. Condoms are simply not …
/r/MensRights22/01/17 08:15 PM
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And make sure to not have kids. Many of the areas where men get hit the hardest pertain to family court, child support, and the devaluing of fatherhood. It's almost like being a father has been criminalized. Men sure do cede a lot of control over their lives when when they reproduce.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 03:37 AM
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Women and children first and why every documentary on the ravages of war tends to focus so heavily on women and children. That's because "women are the primary victims of war." I strongly dislike Trump, but Clinton would have led to an even further erosion on men's rights.
/r/MensRights22/01/17 03:36 AM
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My penis gives me special combat powers! The penis mightier than the sword! /s
/r/MensRights22/01/17 03:34 AM
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I'd add a 7th: vasectomy. Unless you plan on being celibate, a vasectomy is good, cheap insurance.
/r/MGTOW20/01/17 09:13 PM
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Not Simo Häyhä, but Sabaton wrote a song about Audie Murphy (5'5") called To Hell and Back
/r/MGTOW20/01/17 09:11 PM
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they see the progression I made The best revenge is living well. This is how it's done folks.
/r/MGTOW20/01/17 08:58 PM
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You get thrown on the sex offender registry for fucking anything I know what you mean, but that was an odd word choice
/r/MensRights20/01/17 05:59 PM
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I'm a firm beliver in her right ... but also her responsibility. As for fiduciary responsibility, let's not forget: https://i.imgur.com/gD33nq9.jpg If we are going to hold men to fiduciary responsibility, then it is only fair for women to be held equally accountable. Due to the biological differences, this is a difficult issue to resolve in a manner that is fair to all parties. I do believe that women should have the choice to terminate pregnancy because that does pertain to bodily autonomy and …
/r/MensRights20/01/17 05:46 PM
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You want my help, yet if I ever fall on hard times and need some type of assistance everyone will scatter like cockroaches getting hit by the sun. As someone so succinctly put: men don't have a glass ceiling, but they don't have a glass floor either. How about a billboard that says "Women's assistance programs can STOP male homelessness."
/r/MensRights20/01/17 03:36 PM
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