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| 0 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsEvery stranger deserves a base level of empathy, respect and dignity. What the fuck is wrong with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 06:59 AM |
| 0 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsEveryone is entitled to basic empathy never the less someone who is potentially a romantic partner. Who’s acting more entitled here really? People saying you should be aware of your standards lack empathy or people like you saying “I don’t have to care about anyone else.” That would not fly at all if the demographics of this were reversed. Go look in the mirror and try not to let the mirror do all the work reflecting for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 12:38 AM |
| 0 | Men are not the arbiters of reasonable standardsThis is ridiculous. If your standards lack empathy and/or you are unable to meet your own demands you are allowed to be derided as a harmful person to have relationships with. People with whackadoodle standards need therapy and education on how to have empathy. Not to be enabled. If you are unable to be attracted to and/or love anyone unless they fit extreme standards something is legitimately wrong with you and you are emotionally dangerous to anyone you could have a relationship with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 12:20 AM |
| 48 | Tired of people conflating Women with the Left and Men with the RightAlso, quite simply these progressives are just conservatives with a hat on that says “equality”. If you zoom out a good deal of feminism is exactly the same as conservatives: “Women and femininity are victims and angels that need to be protected and men are born evil need to protect and provide for women to be safe and secure.”, “Unemployed men are useless” and “Men don’t need help or deserve help and should pick themselves up by their bootstraps”. It’s the same paint color in a different hue. Z… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/06/26 06:47 PM |
| 9 | Did we just witness an “end-of-the-beginning” moment?I have yet to see just about anyone on the left learning the correct lessons from the loss and allowing themselves to experience better insight of the nuance that is gender issues and empathy towards men. Simply starting to appeal to men because you don't want to lose elections is a disgusting first step, especially as it's been nearly two years and I've seen virtually zero difference in 99.9% of the left's approach towards men aside from slightly acknowledging the existence of their issues more… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/26 06:22 AM |
| 10 | Women are more violent than we think. And men less soIt’s unbelievably disingenuous to frame abortion anywhere in the same realm as someone killing newborn or toddler. I respect that you feel as if abortion isn’t acceptable and believe it’s killing an innocent human life, even if I disagree. However you are shooting your own argument in the foot and being highly disrespectful to the grown men the original poster is advocating for and that suffered greatly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/26 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Why are post so LOOOONG in here ?This is partly true. The other part of the equation is that people here are willing to think deeply about things and delve into nuance and context. We are willing to discuss things in depth in a way that can’t be boiled down into simple catch phrases that allow the likes of many feminists and conservatives to be ideologically captured and use thought-terminating cliches. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/03/26 10:55 AM |
| 29 | Dear Louis Theroux: we are the manosphereThey make people like Andrew Tate the face of men’s advocacy while conveniently ignoring the tons of female influencers, television shows, and more that spout and regurgitate heinous shit that would label them as Andrew Tate or even worse if they were men. We had people on the view over a decade and a half ago literally laughing at a dude getting his dick cut off and thrown in a blender, and presently daily TikTok’s from women with MILLIONS of followers and people commenting agreeing with them, … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/03/26 06:16 PM |
| 27 | 'Evil' woman who used dating apps to meet men then falsely cried rape at least 19 TIMES faces jailIt is so starkly cruel to not focus on the men in these situations. Legitimately, why is it so fucking difficult for the vast majority of people to focus on the men being victimized here? Societally we seem to react far more about the victims of the most minor sexual assaults that are harmless compared to stories of men getting falsely accused and having the entirety of their lives destroyed and even falsely imprisoned. We care more about random comments towards women than we do about men losing… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/26 08:46 PM |
| – | The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”.And how am I being hypocritical? You need to have specific, salient points and examples otherwise it just comes off as deflection. I’m very capable of taking in feedback and adjusting my views and actions accordingly. There’s nothing wrong with being wrong but I need you to present an argument and address the points I make. So far you haven’t even been able to acknowledge a single one never the less provide an argument against them. And you generally can be empathetic with men as a whole who are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/26 02:03 AM |
| 0 | The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”.Criticism and analysis is not saying women are “awful”. That is the same black and white thinking (clinically from psychologists proven as distorted thinking. Look it up you may learn something about yourself, especially as that thinking is very closely associated with depression and mental illness) is what I criticized in my previous response to you. And you are very clearly expecting men to empathize with you and women overall, so why exactly is it such a problem to reciprocate, listen and und… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/26 08:45 PM |
| 3 | The redpill want women who “say they want a good man but dont mean it”.I don’t have much interest in the discussion but just wanted to add that your logic is flawed: You’re treating good guys and bad guys as a binary system where you’re one or the other. Just because a guy is good doesn’t mean he is being desired for having those traits, just as just because a woman is good doesn’t mean she is desired for that as well. And most people embody a combination of both. Theres also so many other things to take into account: there are good guys having sex and in relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/26 11:01 PM |
| 5 | Women Aren't the great Communicators They Think They AreI will happily admit men need to work on things in this arena. You can’t even acknowledge mothers emotionally repressing only their sons while fathers weren’t responsible even when being met with a scientific study without deflecting back on to men. So yes, you lack empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 11:58 PM |
| 5 | Women Aren't the great Communicators They Think They AreThey showed a literal study saying mothers have a gender bias against their own sons, when they are literal children, where fathers did not… And that’s your response? Completely lacking in empathy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/26 11:43 PM |
| 6 | Why do some women genuiely believes that "men can't struggle, because women struggle more"?I understand an extent of the biological argument but it’s completely antithetical to every cultures stated value system which is to treat people equally and human life as precious. It also is antithetical to what you’re saying even: society is asking men to do all this but putting every barrier in their path to do it and abusing them whilst doing so. And while we’re at it we’re suppressing the vast majority of men’s evolutionary instincts outside of their desire for women. It’s fucking stupid a… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/26 05:42 PM |
| 10 | The psychology behind society’s fixation on incelsIt’s odd because while I agree with you here many constantly complain and acknowledge real aspects of how the world is so unjust. Though many of the frustrations do boil down to men being scapegoats and their boogie man like you said. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/02/26 07:20 PM |
| 18 | Do most women find male genital mutilation to be funny or justified depending on the situation?It’s not just genital mutilation. It’s a daily occurrence for the joke of a video I see be the man is abused emotionally/physically. Literally saw a trending video of a woman saying “How slapping a man felt for the first time felt like” and insinuating it felt great to her. It’s a non stop barrage of the “joke” being unacceptable behavior or going “Look how bad/emotionally unstable I am and make it my partners problem because he’s a man teehee.” I used to find some of it funny but there’s such a… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/26 08:07 AM |
| 5 | The narrative around "male/mens mental health" is so oversimplified to the point of caricatureOr other men's fault. The "And who built that system" comments when men try and advocate for themselves are so asinine and lacking in empathy and accountability. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/02/26 06:38 AM |
| 2 | Do you think women are the fairer sex?There’s literal studies that show historically male dominated fields have had discrimination towards women massively resolve towards equality while discrimination towards men in female dominated fields has sustained, so your point is completely incorrect. You’re insistence in framing how women’s act of helplessness/incompetence heaps hyper responsibility and the resulting harm on men wreaks of a lack of empathy and twisting the narrative to make women victims while you laud men acting the same a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 08:47 AM |
| 5 | Do you think women are the fairer sex?If men are playing dumb and it forces women to do things for them, it absolutely is framed as negative towards the women have to do things. Women bash men constantly for "weaponized incompetence" and repeatedly call men privileged for having those women in their lives to do those things for them. It is an utterly ridiculous statement to say it is not a privilege to have the ability and room to "act like you're incapable" and have someone, and often society as a whole literally care for you and h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 11:43 AM |
| 7 | People throughout the entire political spectrum believe feminist propaganda“People also overwhelmingly and unquestioningly think that women had it harder than men historically (which I think is true, even though both sexes had it extremely hard historically…” I appreciate your post but I wish we could stop this kind of thought process. If you were to choose between a man or a woman in the late 1800’s industrial revolution United States would you rather be the woman: high chance to die in child birth, stuck at home, unable to vote etc., or would you rather be the man go… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/12/25 09:04 PM |
| 0 | Women's repulsion of weakness, while more subtle, is as "shitty" as men's objectifying tendencies.You said a blanket statement as if it was true, and you yourself omitted context. I didn’t say anything about women choosing not to date men. I logically turned your argument on its head because your premise was bad. As you said yourself choosing inaction when not replacing your brakes is an action that can cause great harm. I can however label societies neglect/inaction of men in various ways as an action that is causing direct harm to men. And frankly if women want men to be more attractive th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 08:04 AM |
| -2 | Women's repulsion of weakness, while more subtle, is as "shitty" as men's objectifying tendencies.So which is worse shooting an animal to kill it instantly or let it slowly starve to death? Is not fixing my breaks which could lead to my own and others deaths less bad than punching someone in the face? It is, by your assertion, an inaction so surely the action of punching is worse by your logic. Whether action or inaction is the morally right thing to do requires context. Also it’s philosophically quite debatable whether inaction is not doing anything. Choosing not to act is an action in of i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 03:47 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Be honest - wouldn't you feel harassed if a woman told you to smile?Scientific method is incomplete if it’s not able to be replicated. You can have data on earths gravity because you drop something and it falls, but to prove gravity you need to drop something and have it fall to the ground. It also needs to be repeated in different environments to become an ultimate truth. Even gravity in this example is not universal as there are different rates of gravity at different places. It’s how we ultimately came up with the physics equation to calculate gravity and vel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/25 10:02 PM |
| 14 | Female written romantic literature is insanely patriarchalI don’t know the divorce rate of college educated women but college educated women initiate divorce 90% of the time. That is a fucking insane imbalance that cannot be ignored in the context of this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/25 08:36 PM |
| 81 | Hot Take: The tone of this sub is starting to head in a concerning directionYeah. I have said this countless times to most people but one of the reasons I express more discontent with people on the left, especially regarding men’s issues, is that I expect better from them while we are trying to fight against the insanity that is the current Republican Party together. It’s a given that most conservatives are extremely hypocritical, many on the right will boast about being so even. I have a massive problem with people I associate with and pride themselves on empathy and b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/25 07:45 PM |
| 2 | We need more two-way empathy, not sympathyDoes it really mean zero obligation? Am I not obligated to operate better in a world when I empathize with how women are sexually assaulted? If I don’t adjust my actions am I truly empathizing? I would argue no. There’s far too much “that’s your problem” bullshit going on here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/25 12:31 PM |
| 0 | Female double standards regarding insecurityIn some parts yes. In many other facets there seems to be an abuse of men’s empathy toward women, and specifically a romantic interest. That is statistically extrapolated out into society as a whole on a macro level. The answer is not to devolve into a culture war of “fuck off and go to therapy”, the answer is to have more empathy for men and work on solutions both in the world on that macro level and individually, and not just tell them to go to therapy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/25 03:58 AM |
| 5 | Wow so deepJesus Christ I cannot speak to how upsetting seeing this was. I fucking despise people dude. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/09/25 06:27 AM |
| 9 | What is your opinion on the video? (It seems to not be pulling in as much views as she'd usually get.).The first differentiator would have to certainly be consciously abusing versus unconsciously abusing wouldn’t it? And then make it into a scale of awareness: A psychopath purposefully causing harm, versus a narcissist aware of harm but compulsively unable to take accountability, to social deficits that block awareness of behavior and inability to tell cues that something is causing harm. It’s quite odd to me how we conceptualize harm in these discussions. On one end we have men with supposed men… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/25 03:25 AM |
| 0 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureExcept there is a ton of men on a daily basis here explaining how when they’ve shown their partners they are struggling they are treated poorly and abandoned. I’ve been treated like a burden for being upset when I’m childhood dog died, for being injured, and for being worried about finances and struggling. We don’t help men learn healthy ways to cope we DEMAND they cope. If men have to filter their vulnerability in ways to make it acceptable to women then that is not vulnerability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 05:28 PM |
| 6 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureUnfortunately it doesn’t happen in real life either, at least in romantic relationships. My friends generally are quite good at being vulnerable and accepting my vulnerability but if any vulnerability or insecurity effects my romantic partner it almost always leads to a massive problem in the relationship on my partners end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 09:10 PM |
| 56 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureI also take major issue with the idea that insecurity is something men shouldn’t have. God forbid we’re human and still allowed to have love and partnership. Shaming men for having insecurities is insane considering we’re supposed to be letting them be vulnerable too, but I guess we don’t really care about men being vulnerable and healing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 05:45 PM |
| 11 | I feel for her poor son.Because they don’t think they’re wrong. Their experience and view is “valid”. Meanwhile men who say they have not been able to show they are struggling without losing their partner are just misogynistic and it’s “not all women”. Meanwhile the research clearly shows women abuse their children more often and have biases against boys but none of that means a damn thing apparently. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/07/25 09:56 PM |
| 22 | I feel for her poor son.One of the comments: “Understandable and he probably turned just like him; misogynistic and all. We are not gonna seat here and pretend that the first and only ancestral oppressors of women aren't them. And we aren't gonna seat here and pretend that, last year, 70 000 plus of them haven't been busted on Télégramme sharing tips on how to SA women including their own female relatives. You are validated, you are heard, I believe you. Hand him over to the system if another male relative does not wan… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/07/25 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Women with messed-up/morally problematic interests are shown more grace than men with nerdy/unusual but not morally problematic interestsI am generally very disappointed at anyone who uses violence in video games for an argument. What are you a republican congressman from 2005? Anytime the conversation is about men arguments seem to revert to old school boot straps type conservative rhetoric with no scientific basis at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Women with messed-up/morally problematic interests are shown more grace than men with nerdy/unusual but not morally problematic interestsI don’t think there entirely true. I also think in large part there’s a good percentage of people that are drawn to that kind of thing because of escapism, due to them not being happy. I was in a pretty niche group of a toy hobby from high school on, and I remember realizing every single person at a large meeting (aside from myself) was a child of divorced parents, for example. I also think negligence is a very real thing. I spent years asking for help from parents and about skin care stuff and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/25 03:45 AM |
| 6 | Why Are Women so Defensive When Men Complain About Dating AppsIt’s a cycle. As someone who started picky but had to learn to swipe more, it’s a result of women being hyper picky. I’ve met a lot of men who have had to go through the same process to have any success. I think the clear before to the after of men being not picky is women being overly picky. That’s not to say women shouldn’t be picky, same for men. They should. The goal should be to be picky in the right ways. Pickiness can be good, but it can also be extremely dehumanizing. You can be picky an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/25 04:01 AM |
| 17 | Is Slut shaming purely hatred for Male sexuality?I have never dated a woman that has not told me she shared details of my dick and our sex to their close friends. Every female friend I have is VERY open about it, down to even sharing the very intimate kinks their brand new partner. I obviously have a biased population sample but from everything I can tell it’s fairly ubiquitous. I shudder to think what has been said about me by women I’ve dated, even during the relationship. I’ve even had girlfriends tell me other women they just met will show… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/05/25 10:37 PM |
| 7 | Have you noticed how every "Living with ADHD" article is based on a woman?I got diagnosed at 21, and medicated up the wazoo, and my life quickly imploded. Every time I see anything on ADHD there is almost invariably a blurb if not the whole article being hijacked about "and it's especially hard for women!", and it genuinely infuriates me. It is beyond invalidating, and it does anything but match my real world experience. Ultimately I have observed the treatment of the two groups is vastly different: Basically ADHD for boys and men is an excuse, and ADHD for girls and … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/25 07:00 AM |
| 8 | Woman crashes a plane because she refused to listen to more experienced pilots, and posting about it makes men incelsIt’s their go to. In every thread I’ve ever seen about a guy describing his abuse it’s always “not all women are like that go find someone better”. As opposed to addressing the behavior and trying to induce accountability. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 04/05/25 08:04 PM |
| 1 | This video is proof that society views women as a protective class.This is an incredibly interesting, and revealing, way of putting that I hadn’t thought of before. Well done. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/25 02:19 AM |
| 2 | The obsession of "Women-only" immigrant centers in CanadaEver heard of hyperbole? Or I can rephrase into “I genuinely can’t believe the ever continuing willful ignorance of men being disproportionately affected.” Better for you? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/05/25 06:20 PM |
| 28 | The obsession of "Women-only" immigrant centers in CanadaI genuinely can’t believe how people on the left gloss over it. Just about every instance on the right slamming immigrants is almost always doing it to men. It’s similar to the way I see homophobia addressed by both sides. None of it will stop until we start recognizing the misandry involved and do something about it. The racism and homophobia certainly plays a part in their respective scenarios but we’ve been addressing those for decades, and somehow we’re still on the cusp of a Trump presidenc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/05/25 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Why is male sexuality offensive?Why would you say fuck boys are praised when they are literally called “fuck boys”? There’s a whole name for them in the cultural zeitgeist, which means that they are not praised. Even before when it was “players” it was not exactly a term of endearment. There have been whole honor codes such as chivalry printed with how men are to treat women. Mean while male sexuality is often compared to bring an animal/beast. Sure it can go for women too but it’s not nearly as ubiquitous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 06:56 PM |
| 5 | Man conned into thinking baby was his 'devastated'Genuine question, is there any social consequences for these women? One of my biggest frustrations from every relationship I’ve been in is that the aftermath it felt like I was often bullied into a war zone and was picking up the pieces of my life and myself. I had my own issues I needed to work on but it always seemed like they were gliding out into greener pastures with open arms no matter how poorly they treated me. I ended a very close friendship once even because they didn’t want to take a … | /r/MensRights | 30/04/25 09:17 PM |
| 3 | Do you think we need to do something to become more popular/known?This, and also start clearly stating and confronting the active hypocrisy of leftists in regards to men. My preferred method is to continuously point out their parallels with the right that they oh so vocally despise. They need to understand fully their beliefs are not even in line with their own supposed values. That is the only way I can think of to “reach” them and not just write them off as “bad” the way they do those other sects of people that want to address men’s issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/25 11:03 PM |
| 7 | How My Algorithm Changed When I Stopped Hating MenWas the nature of women as subservient to men is centuries past something we could realistically change? We did. Violence and sexual violence continue to this day to drop year over year. We’ve long been having these discussions on rewriting the social contract, the door is already open and we are having these discussions. The reason most of us are here, now, is because all those discussions are very conveniently leaving out men. Either all of it’s okay or none of it’s okay, and it’s not okay to … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/25 09:42 PM |
| 6 | How My Algorithm Changed When I Stopped Hating MenI think it is an uncharitable interpretation for her specific case. But I think in a cultural context of men being expected to continually give without expectation of receiving anything but a woman’s presence I think a statement like that is always going to draw ire as resentment has built up. It’s the same conceptually (from my point of view) of a man saying they look a “submissive” woman when many women grew up in hyper conservative culture just for men to entertain them with their presence wh… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/25 09:37 PM |
| 11 | How My Algorithm Changed When I Stopped Hating MenI don’t mind any woman in my life, partner, friend, family member, turning their brain off. I’m happy to let them rest and take on a bit of extra responsibility for a time so they can do so. But they need to acknowledge the emotional and physical labor involved, and address the double standard in not doing the same for their partner. If I can only turn off once in a blue moon and put myself and my relationships at risk to do so, while I’m treated as a safety dispenser, then your desire to turn o… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/25 09:21 PM |
| 29 | How My Algorithm Changed When I Stopped Hating MenI find the trend of women talking about that extremely disturbing. It’s so grotesquely infantalizing and foregoes responsibility heaping it onto the man. I understand completely wanting to be able to turn off your brain with someone safe but this idea that a good partner is your shepherd and has to stop you from wandering into traffic (an actual example I’ve seen) because you don’t want to think, and would never reciprocate (to the degree that relaxing, playing video games, and sleeping in are a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/04/25 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Men are the ones who really settleI agree with you, but I think a very common pattern for many relationships like this is the one who feels they’ve settled takes it out and projects their frustration onto the other one. The relationship becomes subtly abusive and escalates and the partner that is “settled for” is reared abhorrently. Anyone can go “Well a person that loves me will not think they settled for me” and move on easier but that is rarely what happens, and if it does it generally takes place after quite a bit of belittl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/25 07:12 PM |
| 2 | What do you think is the impediment to men forming fulfilling relationships with other menIn group bias means having a bias towards your own group. Out group bias means having a bias towards a different group than one belongs. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/25 02:39 AM |
| 2 | What do you think is the impediment to men forming fulfilling relationships with other menI see some answers but I don’t see very much data driven thought, so I will chime in with my thoughts: Men just do not have the same in group bias toward other men that women have. In fact in many areas they seem to have an out group bias towards women. We can look into whether this is environmental or biological but in both cases something would need to change with how we raise boys. Men’s language areas of the brain are smaller than women’s. Socialization involves a lot of language, so it woul… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/04/25 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Dating Apps Will Never "Fix" Themselves—They’re Built to Make Sure Men StruggleI’m not black pill/doomer minded, but are dating apps doing that or are they just enabling an already existing attitude that women have towards men? We’re seeing the lack of empathy for men among women and traditional demands women have maintaining while the traditional demands of women have minimized. This is not just in dating but nearly every sphere including physical and mental health, education, and so on. Sure dating apps are exacerbating the issue but even when men are in relationships me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/25 06:44 PM |
| 5 | The phrase small dick energy is genuinely disgustingStealing this. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/25 07:26 AM |
| 9 | The bear vs man thing is stupidLiterally saw so many commenting on posts about men being forcibly conscripted the past few days to fight in wars that women still have it worse because they get raped by enemy forces. These discussions are so tiring and lacking in empathy. Genuinely starting to think the bear is a better choice myself. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/03/25 04:29 AM |
| 7 | Any shows or movies about a man trapped in a toxic relationship?The Hangover, though it’s not the focus of the movie. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/02/25 08:04 PM |
| 20 | I can’t understand feminist menThe irony being this is their justification for continually viewing men ass lesser. Men are not monsters, and this continuous effort to cast them as always fatally flawed while covering themselves of their angelic perfection is quite literally the definition of seeing someone as lesser. Genuinely, how is it so lost on so many that this behavior is exactly what it’s claiming the other side is? Continuously doubling down on victim hood as opposed to a reality grounded in science, statistics, and f… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 12/02/25 06:48 AM |
| 5 | "Emotional Labor" discussion tool.Agree completely. I also despise how much how little critical thinking is involved. We correctly assess men doing steroids to be as jacked as a cartoon character as self inflicted, but so much of the emotional labor discussions seem to be fueled by controlling behavior: They are the ones who are taking on the responsibility and admonishing men for not being up to their perceived standard. Most men I know have to ask for permission to put one singular item of decor in the homes they help pay for,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/25 08:21 PM |
| 2 | Trump has basically made it impossible to be anti-DEI policies without sounding like a racist lunaticI definitely get the whole paradox of tolerance thing. But the absolute brazen way we just abandon every ounce of empathy and tolerance in the current political landscape is unacceptable, and also, even if only from a tactical position politically, monumentally stupid. Feminists keep saying they are seeing a spike in misogyny along with Trump’s rise but ultimately they have only themselves to blame, in my opinion. Their continuous neglect and dismissal of men’s issues even stretching to outright… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 11:20 PM |
| 6 | The "women need to take so much care into their appearance" argumentThe “everyone says I looked tired when I don’t wear make up” argument is particularly damning. They are saying that because they are used to seeing you with make up. The sudden change is much more disturbing to the human brain and why it’s so much more staunch of a difference mentally. Like seeing a guy with long hair and a beard for years shave his head. It’s fucking infuriating to use it as some sort proof of victimization. | /r/MensRights | 05/02/25 10:06 PM |
| 30 | "Emotional Labor" discussion tool.I argue even with that tbh. I constantly hear about how women are constantly expected to be nice and not start arguments/complain but in any relationship I’ve been in or observed it’s never the guy bringing up problems for the most part. I do think it comes across as they are projecting their worries/some guilt for bringing up issues but I think that ties into a lot of the social aspect of feminism that we see that is just constantly validating one another without any accountability or nuanced s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/02/25 09:22 PM |
| 53 | This comment section is disgustingFucking unreal the level of cognitive dissonance you have to have to not see the hypocrisy behind statements like that. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 05/02/25 06:39 AM |
| 13 | TIL: A US men's health campaign existed with the slogan: "This year thousands of men will die from stubbornness."And whenever I do ask for help, or go to the doctor, im footed with a giant bill that no one is going to help me with and virtually zero public programs to help me, put through the ringer of doctor after doctor with the most minimal effort, and every family member and girlfriend I have basically tells me I’m overreacting/to get over it. Maybe men don’t tell people they’re struggling because it creates even more problems because were punished for struggling. Go figure who would have guessed?! /s.… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/25 09:34 PM |
| 5 | Female narcissism is misdiagnosedWhy is it always sexism for women being misdiagnosed? Is it not possible that we just don’t pathologize behavior from girls and women the same way we do boys? The data shows clearly we do as we punish them harsher at every age, both in school and in the justice system. In my experience on top of that young girls and women are just better at fitting in and masking (the language parts of their brains are literally larger from a young age), when most of our criteria for these disorders is about fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/25 07:25 AM |
| 2 | Trump has basically made it impossible to be anti-DEI policies without sounding like a racist lunaticIn what way did I say we should be pandering and capitulating to them? I said we should not be hypocrites and abandon our values and give bad faith actors ammunition to show we are bad and drive people against us. Even if it’s partly for optics we would still be adhering to our own principles. Which, as we all know here much of the left is absolutely not doing. Compromising our values won’t change their propaganda but it fuels their ability to garner support from people who are vulnerable. Plus … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/02/25 01:11 AM |
| 20 | Trump has basically made it impossible to be anti-DEI policies without sounding like a racist lunaticDEI and the extreme conversations on either side of it is the perfect example of our political atmosphere right now. You are not allowed to disagree and have a nuanced, heartfelt, intentional conversation about what you like about it and what you don’t. If you disagree, I don’t care why you’re a bigot/wokey or whatever. If this was an individual in any personal context seeing a psychologist the therapist would say “That is black and white thinking. That is indicative of a mental health issue. Th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/25 02:20 AM |
| 0 | Women dismiss men's relationship stress, yet believe similar complaints from lesbian/bi women.I’m assuming this is a bit too broad and the bias may need to be explored contextually? I’ve read studies that show male teachers and fathers exhibit no bias towards their students/kids where as female teachers and mothers did in regards to grading and discouraging their sons to express sadness and anger. I’ve also read that both men and women when presented with who to save between a man and woman in a dangerous scenario wound overwhelming choose the woman. I’m sure there is some areas where me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/25 03:24 AM |
| 1 | Women dismiss men's relationship stress, yet believe similar complaints from lesbian/bi women.I’ve read men have an out group bias towards women as opposed to other men. Even if there is an in group bias men’s empathy for women far exceeds empathy for one another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/25 03:17 AM |
| 9 | I feel like most guys just want acknowledgment that things can suck for men too.The common response I see from women about other women is “they have a right to choose” or “not all women are like that”. The latter is asanine and hypocritical when men are constantly made to be guilty for other men, and the former is ridiculous because it basically allows women to pick and choose equality or traditional beliefs at any given time. It lends credence to accusations of women flipping back and forth when it benefits them. In general though I have seen far too many women be enabled … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/01/25 12:14 AM |
| 28 | Some men will always be unappealing to all women in a romantic sense.All of the data? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 08:29 PM |
| 9 | 2019 study reported that mothers, but not fathers, show more favorable attitudes toward sadness and anger expression by girls versus boysI cite this study a lot. It matches my experience. But for everyone else reading through it, is there any weak parts of the actual study that need to be taken into account? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/01/25 09:10 PM |
| 9 | “Girls being able to hit boys is not an unjustified double standard.”Their point is trying to downplay what women are capable of doing as perpetrators, comparing them to chihuahuas. It’s fucking disgusting. On top of that it’s also fucking dumb, as if a weaker person could never wield a weapon, use poison, or manipulate others into dangerous situations or demand others put themselves in harms way for their own benefit. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/01/25 07:03 PM |
| 3 | Men face growing pressure to use steroids as studies show increase in male body dysmorphiaI would add that mathematically it makes sense that men would be driven towards more extreme based on less options romantically. Also too one thing I feel always is conveniently forgotten in many of the conversations about beauty standards is that some things are inherent within what we possess naturally and others are developed/earned. Testosterone definitely allows men to build muscle more easily but a strong physique still needs to be earned and maintained. I find it odd that this kind of thi… | /r/MensRights | 14/01/25 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Paternity fraud is DV and women who oppose paternity tests are abusers.I would say manipulation can potentially be violence. If slavery/indentured servants are included in violence then manipulating someone to do labor is absolutely violent. If you think about the logistics of manipulation/emotional abuse it can even be far more dangerous, not because it’s inherently more dangerous but because it slips under the radar. It’s a trendy example but the United CEO shooting. He shot one guy and was arrested, compared to United as a corporation denying people’s claims en … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 07:28 PM |
| 5 | Male perpetrators of sexual violence are under-reported in comparison to female perpetrators of sexual violence. Thoughts?Absolutely. Hope it wasn’t interpreted as thinking that is the case. Definitely think those stats cited are wrong and/or biased. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/24 10:24 PM |
| 6 | Male perpetrators of sexual violence are under-reported in comparison to female perpetrators of sexual violence. Thoughts?Even if we didn’t see a 50/50 split it is imperative that we look into the actual details and all the data actually says. The data could say 90% are committed by men but if out of 100,00 people only 5-10 individuals are committing the vast majority of cases it’s a completely separate issue than “men bad”. Not to mention there needs to be a systematic breakdown of types of acts. This cartoonish caricature of sexual assault as the devil incarnate raping for the fun of it is not representative of s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/12/24 07:32 PM |
| 10 | Conservatives being misardrist and homophobic at the same time, who'd have thought?It really boggles my mind how people are so blind to how gay men are treated in comparison. I certainly know lesbians who’ve been treated terribly, don’t get me wrong, but in my life the worst treatment I’ve seen is gay men. And so much of the rhetoric there anti-gay and anti-trans is far and away gay men and trans women. I rarely if ever see any prejudice or hate directed at trans men. I recently came out as bi as well and I’ve flat out seen women who have regularly engaged in dating and being … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 14/12/24 10:07 PM |
| 8 | "Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses.I don’t think you did a bad job. I think, and I include myself in this, that many of us here have trouble with any idea of mental strength because there is an asterisk always on it for men that they are the ones that can’t be in the category of those who need others to be strong for them. It’s similar to how many sidestep the who pays on a date debate by saying “the one who asks pays”, knowing full well men are expected to ask and thus pay. It may sound like good rule that applies to everyone on… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/12/24 09:20 PM |
| 18 | "Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses.The issue is if being strong is only expected of men that is a sexist expectation. If they are expected to be strong for everyone else because they’re a man, they are simultaneously going to be punished for being “weak”. Even if they aren’t directly being punished if they are not allowed to have social and romantic connections unless they buy in to that dichotomy, that is an abusive dynamic. There are times when men need to break down and someone else needs to take a turn being strong. In my lif… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/12/24 08:57 PM |
| 8 | National Review: The Democrats Have a Woman Problem%100. It’s so obvious how fundamentally not about equality much of it is when there is droning in about equity in STEM and yet there is crickets in any other field or anything like men’s suicide or life expectancy. I think the main point of contention though that is the focal point is relationships. The vast majority of men are okay with the world being unfair as long as their close romantic relationships can be a refuge. In reality however, it seems the gendered expectations are even worse ther… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/24 09:12 AM |
| 8 | Sweden’s ‘soft girl’ trend that celebrates women quitting work OP: Imagine how men would be attacked in the media if the genders were reversed.I’m of the opposite end of preference but I have the exact same thought process. This is not a buffet and you do not get to pick and choose with equality. You can’t desire to not work/work cushy safe jobs/easy work/want to be provided for while simultaneously wanting equality in every other aspect. ESPECIALLY when it comes to your partner. I’ve had for too many situations where a partner wants equality in every aspect and then in our intimate relationship wants to be treated like a damsel and ha… | /r/MensRights | 07/12/24 12:33 AM |
| 17 | National Review: The Democrats Have a Woman ProblemI’m certainly glad we seem to be reaching critical mass on men’s issues and hopefully this is the long awaited turning point. What is absolutely baffling to me is the amount of people that seem to think this is a new/only a recent problem. It’s been like this for so long, and in my estimation the only thing that’s changed is a ramp up of toxic behavior in the last 10-15 years along with a younger generation of men that have been sold equality all their lives and do not feel as though it’s been r… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/24 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Do Male Victims Receive Equal Justice in Cases of Sexual Misconduct?Absolutely it does, though sex implies a lot of other stuff. Someone wanting you, feeling attractive, physical touch, intimacy and all the emotional parts that implies. Because unlike for women, who understandably are concerned about being used for sex, sex isn’t given in a vacuum. And those emotionally impoverished people are much more inclined to look at a 14 year old having sex with a teacher as “lucky”. People think simply looking at that last sentence and just think “gross that’s why we don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 04:40 AM |
| 4 | Why Splitting the Check Should Be the New Standard for DatingSo equality is only for men you are in a relationship with? That’s extremely convenient. Also statistically incorrect given the data on who women prefer and marry, the expectations of being able to financially provide, and the number one reason for divorce being financial difficulties. So your point even isn’t honest. More to the point, you fail to address my central argument: Just because something is romantic/involves attraction does not mean you are not bound to an ethical and moral code. Jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/24 09:30 AM |
| 6 | As leftist neurodivergent men, do you feel unwelcomed in leftist spaces or rejected in dating even with your best foot forward?Ultimately I don’t think this will be addressed until the left starts addressing the social part of all this. All the data is in, and it shows they deem men unworthy of help even in an individual level. If women are continuously not going to date men that make less money than them, then men’s primary focus will always shift to economic viability and sustainability, no matter how short sided those particular views may be. Also, in what should be an absolute shock to no one, mentally/physically un… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/24 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Why Splitting the Check Should Be the New Standard for DatingDemand: an insistent and peremptory request, made as if by right. “a series of demands for far-reaching reforms”. If you insist on someone paying for a date in order to continue seeing them that is a demand. Even if you want to argue the definition of demand in this case, you need to have an argument morally for asking for someone to pay for you with equality in mind. My supposition is not that having demands/standards is wrong, it is that it is morally unjust to demand to be paid for with all e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 07:09 PM |
| 6 | Why Splitting the Check Should Be the New Standard for DatingHaving a choice to partake in a demand or not ignores the morality of making the demand in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 06:46 PM |
| 4 | Why Splitting the Check Should Be the New Standard for DatingIn an age of equality do we really have a choice? Why do people get to pick and choose this kind of thing? Sitting here and asking someone to pay for you, and putting them into a situation that they are either forced to pay or lose interest. You are forcing a person into a bad situation. In any other context aside from dating it would not just be rude, it would be extremely rude. Your behavior is not yours alone if it is forcing an action from someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 05:52 PM |
| 45 | As leftist neurodivergent men, do you feel unwelcomed in leftist spaces or rejected in dating even with your best foot forward?The way they talk about white women voting for Trump as if they’re helpless and just have been brainwashed to vote against their own interests, while the men are evil assholes that just want to control women is astounding to me. Not one person I’ve seen bitching about men voting for Trump has even mentioned the astronomical figure of men not voting at all. Maybe speaking to the disillusioned voters would actually help your cause? Instead it’s just chastising like those ads recently that tell you… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/11/24 04:12 AM |
| 4 | the abolishment of men's gender roles.And the distinct lack of focus on toxic femininity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/24 08:57 PM |
| 15 | If men's treatment of women is the cause of the male loneliness epidemic, why fifty shades of grey is the best selling romantic novel in the history and why are girls lining up for movies like 360 days?The issue is in the last century, we’ve concluded men do not have the room to be hypocritical when it comes to treatment of women. The shoe is on the other foot now. Women are doing better in just about every metric as a group comparatively. If when men are not doing well as a whole and women do not feel as if men are deserving of help, when in the reverse it has long been established that it would be immoral to not do so, then we have not just a problem but a massive gargantuan recipe for disas… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/24 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Feminist see themselves as sex objects when they don’t get what they want.I don’t think the majority of women are valid at all. They all have their own unique problems to deal with. However, just like the data that shows men’s various negative behavior that men have to take in and acknowledge for society to be a better place, if data comes out that shows women that they display negative behaviors that id something they have to internalize, reflect on, and change. There is a ton of data from research on what women find attractive and how they perceive men. And while I … | /r/MensRights | 08/11/24 08:26 PM |
| – | Women can't complain that men voted for Trump, men are just sticking up for themselvesI think you are missing the point. I am a staunch democrat and pro choice, but the studies show Trump supporters are just nihilistic and have a burn it down mentality. I don’t agree with them, but I don’t think many are truly expecting republicans to help them, as opposed to wanting the hurt the people that are preaching equality and empathy and are conspicuously absent and minimize any issue men go through. It’s a defense mechanism and trauma response it seems more than a strategy to enact real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/24 07:32 AM |
| 13 | Are these “liberal men” in the room with us right now?The left aren’t even speaking about all the male voters that didn’t vote at all they failed to reach. The hyper focus on Trump voters could be moot if they actually tried even an ounce to reach men who feel apathetic because society cares so little about them. And they certainly aren’t going to start feeling less apathetic with men constantly being shat on. It would take so little effort to acknowledge them and problems they are going through but we’d rather generalize a prejudice towards men ov… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 06/11/24 09:58 PM |
| 10 | If harris/walz lose, and insofar as they are losing male votersYou act as if most of the people here don’t consistently speak for abortion and vote for politicians who support it as well. Don’t insult me and others here by saying we don’t turn out when the vast majority of us have continuously voted blue. I myself have never voted republican and likely never will unless something extremely radical changes, which I doubt will happen. If you don’t want men to be apathetic about women’s issues you need to learn that they just want reciprocation for their own b… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/11/24 01:26 AM |
| 5 | African man who died in the midst of being gang raped by his 6 wives.Maybe, just maybe, or we could address men’s physical and emotional loneliness and address their physiological and emotional needs many more men would not feel lucky to be raped. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/24 11:33 PM |
| 1 | My (Mark W. Sutton) interview on Politics Politics Politics with Justin Robert Young on the #gendergap in presidential voting and how #Democrats could better appeal to men. Trying to get the word out!They still don’t realize they’re leaving men behind. They simply just think men are “moving right”. With zero inclination to understand to what “left and right” mean relative to actual policy in the greater landscape. The Republican Party if you look at them closely don’t really stand for anything. Studies even show Trump supporters are nihilistic and merely driven by their hatred of the other side. The left has more of a framework to build upon but the message for men is that they are not invol… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/24 06:08 PM |
| 5 | Why Dudes Split From ‘The Left’ A.K.A. How To Defeat The Strongman/Weakwoman Dynamic; gender rights in the 21st centuryOne of the main issues with this is the left can’t actually reach out to men unless it’s done condescendingly without feeling the massive lashing back from the extreme feminists they’ve help grow and enable for decades plus. It’s similar to how the Republican Party can’t abandon Trump despite clearly hating him, as his supporters have been grown from decades of anti-education policies and moral absolutism wedge issues like abortion, that clouds their vision and makes it impossible to see. On top… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/10/24 12:53 AM |
| 2 | When men have contradictory views, they are all generalize as hypocrites. But when it comes to women all of a sudden it's "just two different people".The tight rope that men have to walk on balancing those behaviors is honestly an abusive dynamic. Besides the hypocrisy, the expectations are never communicated, and many women in my experience can flip flop at will. The experience children have when they don’t know if which parent is going to come home: The angry one or the happy one, is an extremely similar experience when men deal with women on these things. When I tell her about how I feel which version of her is going to appear? The one tha… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 26/10/24 04:58 PM |
| 3 | When men have contradictory views, they are all generalize as hypocrites. But when it comes to women all of a sudden it's "just two different people".Things like these are why I have a problem with “choice feminism”. You cannot simply choose to be regressive in an equal society, especially because it opens the door for individuals to constantly change their mind when it benefits them. If the rule is we are equal, why does anyone get choose that the other person should pay? You aren’t even choosing for yourself, you are forcing the other person to do something. That is not a standard, it is a demand and entitlement. If you want equality, then … | /r/EverydayMisandry | 26/10/24 08:28 AM |
| 8 | 46 y/o Middle School Teacher Sentenced for Locking 14 y/o student in classroom to rape himI think many men would dream of physical violence compared to the how cruel and Machiavellian women’s harm is. I was just mentioning this in another thread but I’d much rather get repeatedly punched by a bouncer at a bar rather than go 5/10/15 years and find out a child was mine was not the entire time. Societies inability to conceptualize how women cause harm indirectly, especially when utilizing society’s inherent empathy towards them, does unimaginable harm. See Emit Till as an example. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/24 12:46 AM |
| 4 | Schools have a LOT of excuses for girlsHaving been a teacher I notice the same. I was only briefly a long term sub, but I also noticed a lot of the fidgeting behavior for boys went away when I was giving them less busy work and was treating them more like adults capable of contributing to the discussion (It was social studies so more discussion based, especially since I wasn’t a trained teacher). I think many of the girls really thrive on the busy work, and I think honestly we are doing them a disservice by focusing on it as a means … | /r/MensRights | 25/10/24 06:06 PM |
| 7 | Dr K on female bullying/nasty behaviorI can’t tell you how refreshing it is to have someone not only engage with what I’m saying, but also actually cite something to further the discussion. It is absolutely maddening even having a facsimile of a conversation with anyone about anything related to men without walking on egg shells, and constantly biting my tongue. That’s an interesting excerpt. I’ve never been a fan of the whole “angry male” cliche, perhaps it was true in bygone eras, but even then it feels like a symptom of deep unha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/24 06:12 AM |
| 11 | Dr K on female bullying/nasty behaviorOf course. In situations like this I think of how unbelievably terrifying it would be to be in a relationship with a kid for years on end only to discover eventually the kid wasn’t mine. Obviously I don’t want my arms torn off by a bear, but a situation like that, suddenly feeling as though possibly 5-10-15 years of my life were taken from me could very well wish I was dead. Otherwise too, I think the thousand cuts of emotional abuse is often very compounding. Say someone gets abused, they depre… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/24 01:01 AM |
| 15 | Dr K on female bullying/nasty behaviorIt’s similar to the overt vs. covert narcissist dichotomy, imo. Overt may be generally more dangerous but they are far easier to spot and avoid. Coverts slowly get their claws into you, and all of a sudden you realize you’re knee deep in a disastrous situation that could potentially have incredibly dire consequences. In this situation I think many men would prefer physical violence because it’s easy to spot. I’d rather be punched in the face, and then know I can walk away, then slowly gaslit ove… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/24 12:50 AM |
| 5 | Dr K on female bullying/nasty behaviorAbsolutely. A slightly separate note: I’ve seen research state that the emotional impacts of physical abuse and emotional abuse are actually basically the same. I’d genuinely be curious to see what he has to say about the research on that. I need to look to see if he has other videos on abuse as a topic. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/24 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)Even if they are fired by their own fault, god forbid they deserve empathy and compassion so they can work to piece their lives together. Instead there’s an invisible gun to their head at all times stating silently: You MUST succeed or you will have no one by you left to care. If that’s the only way people in our lives care about us is that actually caring at all? Even when things are going WELL it’s often not enough. I know countless men working shitty jobs to put their partner through school h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 03:20 PM |
| -2 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)Aw men are mean to you? I guess I’ll go tell my friends that can’t afford their lawyer because they are required to pay for their ex wife’s, that she abuses and calls meetings constantly to drain him of money, despite him making less than her he shouldn’t worry because people are mean to her. Or maybe I can go talk to my friend who’s drinking himself to death after getting drugged and raped by a woman at a party as he went in and out of consciousness and then spent the following months consoling… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 03:20 AM |
| 8 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)Ironic considering the expectation of care in a romantic relationship for women by men. Any partner I’ve had would be treated poorly or left to deal with their problems on their own over my dead body. And if I wasn’t inclined to do those things not one single man in life, not friends with even, just that I know, would not respect me. Nor would I respect them if they did not do the same. Every woman on every forum including Reddit go on and on how they want an emotionally supportive partner that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 02:54 AM |
| 12 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)Everyone is deserving of base line things because they are human. Women deserve respect, love, care, and dignity, because they are human. And so do men. Who is acting more entitled here, someone asking that life is tough and we must help one another or you calling someone entitled for asking for mutual help? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 02:40 AM |
| 6 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)The study you are quoting this “fact” from was retracted. So your point is irrelevant. We are not talking about situations of abuse. We are talking about life. You cannot expect men to be put together when they are expected to do everything on your own. And we are also talking about how young boys as young as 12 are kicked out of abuse shelters, how every country in the planet men live shorter lives and die earlier of just about every single cause, and even when they are alive live with illness … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 02:38 AM |
| 16 | Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.)The issue here is life happens and the way your, and so many other statements about men’s emotional health is framed is that they are going to have to get healthy alone before a woman considers them. And that does not magically change in a relationship, especially if illness, deaths, depression, and so many other things happen. Bar being volatile, insane, incapable of doing anything ever, and psychotic we need to help each other. Even in some of those cases almost no man I know would leave their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 02:10 AM |
| 2 | Sex segregation at work with or against and why ?I am completely fine with a cultural grace period of some groups having their own things while others are not. I’m understanding of various black groups and the history of it, but ultimately it needs to end if we want true equality. The most bizarre aspect to me is the completely conflicting messages and complaints of being excluded currently and historically, and then simultaneously stating you need your own space to feel safe. With feminism it’s extremely prevalent and it is similar to a dynam… | /r/MensRights | 22/10/24 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Sex segregation at work with or against and why ?It’s so frustrating because it’s not that hard. Why exactly would a men’s only gym be an issue for anyone? Seems like it could both justify women only gyms as a construct and also thin out gyms so women can feel safe going. It would seem like a win win. But the idea of a “men’s space” seems to go 1 to 1 with this bizarre idea that we are going to be plotting and scheming misogyny when left in a group together. And I don’t even believe in any of that. My general belief is that gendered spaces sto… | /r/MensRights | 22/10/24 12:31 AM |
| 3 | Sex segregation at work with or against and why ?They endorse it and demonish the idea when it’s convenient. Men’s only gyms and men’s clubs in universities are sexist enough to make warrant severe threats and outrage but they both have existed and will continue to exist for women. I would respect either belief system despite feeling we should move past them at some point as long ad they’re consistent, but they absolutely are not. That inconsistency would be an abusive dynamic if it were applied in an individual relationship, and that’s becaus… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/24 08:44 PM |
| 11 | “Toxic masculinity” is real, but the term used for what it refers to is harmfulOne of the interesting aspects of this line of thinking is seeing the reaction when the gender roles are flipped. A woman being expected to do all the initiation romantically would be very quick to tell you that role is unfair. Same with a husband staying at home to take care of the kids while the wife works. Men in those situations are either ecstatic, or uncomfortable with how they are perceived for placing such a large burden on the other person. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/10/24 07:59 PM |
| 25 | “Toxic masculinity” is real, but the term used for what it refers to is harmfulYes. My problem with the term has always been how the goalposts of what it is conveniently move, and the even more convenient inability to acknowledge any similar phenomenon for women. If a man feels he has to be tough and never burden his partner with his problems, is it t toxic masculinity if that is the expectation SHE has of HIM? Or would that instead be toxic femininity? If millions of men talk about how they are unable to keep a partner if they lose their job, or get depressed, and we stil… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/10/24 07:47 PM |
| 2 | FD Signifer Makes a 28 Minute Video attacking Abuse Victim Johnny Depp"Moving right" is not the same as being abandoned for disagreeing. I have never in my life voted for a republican and yet any time I disagree with any issues or advocate for men I am called a plethora of things from incel, conservative, right wing, even a white supremicist. If two people are having discourse and one says men deserve equal help and treatment to women and is demolished for not protecting women, who is the real conservative in that scenario? The person advocating for equality or th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 12:19 AM |
| 13 | The Empathy Gap and Ignorance of Male Suffering (1)This shit makes me furious. I genuinely can’t believe so many people who pride themselves on being compassionate and empathetic, regularly crying out for equality and better lives for everyone can sit there and downvote someone mentioning that many men are also dying is downvoted to hell. It would be pathetic if it wasn’t so cruel. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/10/24 12:03 AM |
| 4 | Normal men don't care about women who are attracted to terrible people.What do you mean what the issue? He’s not saying there should be anything he is stating how aggression manifests in similar numbers with each gender, just in different ways. We have tons of laws no social norms mitigating men’s aggression and many men are stating that there just ALSO needs to be a focus on the more covert damage that women can cause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/24 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Normal men don't care about women who are attracted to terrible people.The problem here is overt is easier to spot and fix. It’s why psychologists often cite covert narcissists as being more dangerous than overt. You can spot an overt narcissist and avoid them, while covert you may only see when their claws are already into you. It’s why we have so much focus on men causing harm versus women. The categorical denial and gaslighting of women’s ability to do harm even in subtle ways is part of the way they do harm. It is more difficult to ascertain and stop overt aggr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/24 07:41 PM |
| 7 | Kamala Harris doesn't acknowledge that the draft controls men's bodies.None. If they do they are almost 99% to be iterating the importance of them doing it for everyone else. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/24 09:19 PM |
| 4 | Why is that in a relationship, going 50/50 (splitting bills, chores and work) is considered bad or 'feminine'?I despise those types. It’s always “we should help men so they’ll take care of us like the fragile women we are” while having the same exact traditional demands. Help men because they are people and deserve it, not just so they’ll go do the shitty dangerous jobs so you don’t have to. It’s just another flavor of entitlement. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/24 10:36 PM |
| 1 | It seems like males slow to commit AND slow to break upWomen also live longer while married. The difference is just not as great comparatively. But overall it is a small difference especially when accounting for men’s lifespan being 8 or so years less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/24 03:09 AM |
| – | More boys are now out of school globally than girls, and the inequality is bound to get worse [There is no patriarchy series]There is a ton of data showing female teachers showing a bias towards their female students and against male students. There is undoubtedly boys that just don’t vibe with school and I’ll grant you that it’s likely a higher number than girls but to say a good percentage aren’t of our own making is preposterous given the data. One aspect too is men are required to be more independent and successful from a younger age. There is no going out and having dinner paid for by the opposite sex, no getting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/24 11:49 PM |
| 6 | Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to beIt certainly is when you consider how easy it is for a woman who found you attractive it is to be turned off of you. Crying because you’re depressed and she leaves, losing your job, not making enough money, even saying the wrong thing once. Especially because of the lack of support many men get it is many times shooting themselves in the foot as well. Being attracted to confident men and then not doing anything to help them means less men are confident and thus less attractive. If men need to bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/24 08:37 PM |
| 15 | The Toxicity of “Positive Masculinity”The inability to even discern categories of incels, whether it be ones that are dangerous or not, or what the causes of them becoming one could be (self inflicted vs. pushed there by mistreatment, etc) is always one of the most damning parts of stuff like this. Not every “incel” is some hive mind conservative thinker that brought it on themselves and is misogynist, victim mentality loser that is one step away from being a domestic terrorist. In fact, any in that category seems to be vanishingly … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/10/24 11:29 AM |
| 12 | Handsome Men Receive More Privileges from Women, while Unattractive Men Get Less Leeway - Gilmore Health NewsYeah. Similar to how male CEO’s are treated like they exempt from sexist expectations of men but in reality I would say they honestly have worse expectations. If they continue working they have to work an absolute fuck ton of hours and often grind themselves to dust emotionally and physically (see the word in Japanese that literally means working so hard your heart gives out. Happens often enough they made a term for it there.), if you ease up your job to ease the stress many of your relationshi… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/24 01:37 AM |
| 7 | What’s everybody’s favorite Olympics sports to watch? Mine is mental gymnastics. Watch here as a rape apologist tries her best to justify excluding female perpetrators from rape statistics by *surprise* blaming men.Every line she uttered is so completely predictable at this point. The same tired lines and buzzwords manipulated to put no responsibility or accountability on women. They cannot take in new information and adjust their thinking whatsoever. These people mix their ideology in concrete thinking both that it won’t ever change, and never needs to be adjusted based on the context. It’s the same dumb ass attitude that seems to think women can’t be sexist or minorities can’t be racist. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 01/10/24 06:09 PM |
| 14 | A lot of people are really trying so hard to demonize single men. But they are struggling though.The judging part bothers me a ton. Not least in part I have been urged to not judge. I do my best to be an empathetic and understanding person to all people, dating or not. In dating as a straight guy there is an unfathomable amount of criticism, said and unsaid. I find myself become increasingly frustrated at the hypocrisy in all of it where I am continuously judged for things where I would be an absolute asshole of a human being, not just partner, for doing the same thing. It’s especially infu… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/09/24 11:08 PM |
| 1 | High earning women don’t intimidate men from dating themI have never ever seen that. The only thing I’ve seen is when men are the primary provider, working longer hours, more physically laborious jobs, etc. they find it unreasonable to be expected to also still participate in chores at an equal level. Especially when they are not as particular or fastidious as their spouse. Even sexist, traditionalist jack asses maintain that men should be the ones working and providing, and just want their wives to facilitate the home so they can focus on that in ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/24 04:43 AM |
| 3 | How do you guys stay positive and avoid things like insecurity and self-esteem issues in the face of rejection?A quote I saw recently that has had me attempting to shift my perspective related to this: “For we each of us deserve everything, every luxury that was ever piled in the tombs of the dead kings, and we each of us deserve nothing, not a mouthful of bread in hunger. Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/24 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Britain announces women WONT be sent to prisons as much as men in new plans, AND may close existing female prisons down!!!!Fucking insane dichotomy. The complete lack of empathy and understanding, and subsequent hyper empathy on the other side for people who should actually still be given punishments to some degree even if they are capable of being rehabilitated, is astounding. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/24 08:34 PM |
| 23 | Why is racism the line most misandrists won't cross?You’ll find other answers, but ultimately, psychologically many are just short sided. They want to look good to those around them and feel good. Moral grandstanding on an issue they don’t actually have to act on accomplishes that perfectly. And it’s an easy issue to be on the right side of. I can see people mentally patting themselves on the back when I see them use idiotic thought-terminating cliches often times. I’m sure the dopamine rush of saying white men are the root of all that is wrong i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/24 02:46 PM |
| 15 | Progressive spaces shit on lonely men and then wonder why they go to scumbags like Andrew Tate for advice.They’re rather call you autistic and say you lack social skills than admit you may have a point when you stray from the “acceptable” lines of thinking often times. The irony in that I’ve seen women get away with so much more socially comparatively, to the point where I often feel there could be a correlation between them getting diagnosed with various things like adhd and autism later in life, to then continuously tell men they lack social skills instead of being an empathetic listener. But yes … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/24 09:00 AM |
| 8 | Progressive spaces shit on lonely men and then wonder why they go to scumbags like Andrew Tate for advice.Even then criticism generally needs to be constructive, and reflected upon before it’s said to make sure it is valid. There was very little of either of those. I’m just astonished at the responses criticizing him. They are speaking of him as if he was deservedly on death row or something. It really boggles my mind. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/24 08:30 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on this video.I think one thing too in terms of “nice guys” is that they are often beaten into submission to be nice. How can they be anything else if they are misogynistic assholes when they often stand up for themselves? There’s just no winning here for many of them. It’s either be nice and have a small mediocre superfluous relationships or piss everyone off and have to be alone and hated. That’s not a very good set of choices. Not to mention the litany of hypocrisy when it comes to so many women being so u… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/24 06:10 AM |
| 6 | Why cisgender males, especially straight ones, and trans women turn to the right.I think it’s more complicated than that. I don’t want us to fall in the same black and white fallacy trap I see feminists do. There are “two lefts”: There is the social left, the woke mob types, and the status quo left. The latter is more akin to most European countries right wing. There seems to be a rather large compensatory effect based on how extreme our right wing party is. As the right wing has gotten more extreme many are getting frustrated and pulling left. Similar to how one person yell… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/24 02:12 AM |
| 2 | As one of the guys that's being talked about, the comments just hurtI would say, the vast vast majority is people who do not apathetically look upon men who are struggling. The vocal “man haters” may not be unusual but the perpetual attitude that has brought us to this societal point in time is absolutely the norm. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/24 09:28 PM |
| -1 | As one of the guys that's being talked about, the comments just hurtThe two main tenants of biological life are survival, and reproduction. It could be argued that reproduction is survival in a way, just through genes. I don’t think it should be understated how dangerous it can be to ignore that. And one of my core assertions with a lot of these discussions is that in the reverse situation, we would absolutely be concerned with women not having sex at similar rates. Especially in conjunction with all the other data to make imply they are not doing well, includin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/24 09:26 PM |
| 2 | As one of the guys that's being talked about, the comments just hurtIt’s always convenient the parts they criticize are things they don’t have to play the game in. Like having a penis to be judged on, lol. Or making enough money to provide for a partner. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/24 12:56 PM |
| 30 | As one of the guys that's being talked about, the comments just hurtI mean, he’s an awful human being. But his popularity feels more like young men abandoning their principles for nihilism when they realize no matter how much work they put into equality for women they will get none of it back, especially in their closest personal relationships. How are you supposed to believe in anything if your romantic partner, no matter who it seems to be and how much they preach for equality, doesn’t seem to care when an inequality applies to you? As soon as you lose your jo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/24 12:35 PM |
| 4 | As one of the guys that's being talked about, the comments just hurthttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cml2kvd2dvno This article is god awful and conveniently leaves out how stringent the financial expectations of men (and still to this day has mandatory military service for men) are still in South Korea, and the whole 4b movement. I also saw last year or so feminists there were protesting a politician holding up their pinkies to show he had a tiny dick. I don’t remember why. But yeah. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/24 12:12 PM |
| 7 | As one of the guys that's being talked about, the comments just hurtYeah. It takes a quick Google search to see it’s widespread. Very social media platform, every news outlet. If you want to think about how many people think this way think about how much polling numbers were to tank if any democratic politician would drop if they were to say any facsimile of “We should maybe help men a bit.” | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/24 11:26 AM |
| 62 | As one of the guys that's being talked about, the comments just hurtThe inability to connect dots on other data is startling. Extremely low disease free years of life, men leading cause of early death in just about every category. I see so many people saying this could lead to early death but from my perspective it definitely seems like it could be the inverse. Maybe men retreat to play video games because they are being mistreated rather than the inverse (I’m sure it goes both ways but come on) and thinking sex is only ever had in isolation from healthy relatio… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/24 10:27 AM |
| 42 | As one of the guys that's being talked about, the comments just hurtUnfortunately I don’t think this is isolated to online. I can’t even speak about anything related to men, no matter how much I support women, without getting called a misogynist or a incel. There’s a fallacy many people think, where only loud idiots believe this stuff, and the only loud idiots are online. There’s not, for one. I hear this stuff constantly just passing by people on the street. And two, it’s not just people who talk about it. There’s a lot of people who may not agree with the vora… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/24 10:08 AM |
| 11 | Men are not obligated to step in and save a woman from being mugged or assaulted, but it does seem that women are more likely to stop and ask the hurt person if they're okay, offer comfort, and provide help/call for help.Yeah, 100%. I think it’s especially egregious considering most of the complaints I see from men anywhere regarding women come from their inability to be vulnerable, or struggle in their romantic relationships with women. Even getting kind words or not being left in charge to plan most outings/romance often feels like a hard ask there. I don’t know if the research still holds up, but 10 or so years ago I read that female social groups are much more discriminatory than male social groups as well. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 05:48 AM |
| 16 | Men are not obligated to step in and save a woman from being mugged or assaulted, but it does seem that women are more likely to stop and ask the hurt person if they're okay, offer comfort, and provide help/call for help.Yeah. It gives me pause. My car battery died last week. I was at a 7 Eleven, and went in and asked if someone there could jump me. The woman at the counter said no, but I could go ask someone pulling in for gas coming in, but mentioned I could only ask the men. I had helped a woman in the exact same scenario days prior. It’s quite tiresome to be honest to constantly be expected to help people, and acknowledge it’s the right thing to do, and yet… you just don’t get any help back from a segment of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/24 11:01 PM |
| 35 | Men are not obligated to step in and save a woman from being mugged or assaulted, but it does seem that women are more likely to stop and ask the hurt person if they're okay, offer comfort, and provide help/call for help.This is gamma bias in action. Minimizing the good of men while exaggerating the good of women. It’s frustrating as hell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/24 07:28 PM |
| 7 | If women are allowed to divorce their husbands for wanting paternity test, then this guy is justified in leaving his wife for wanting to look at his phoneI have to disagree unfortunately. I seen a lot of posts and time and time again, even if the main post is somewhat empathetic, the comments surely aren’t. And the comments outnumber the number of posts many times over. There has been analysis of subreddits like AITAH finding significant bias towards women in many instances, and it’s obviously quite common to switch the genders and repost. So we get a ton of case studies. I find it rare to see anything alleviating blame of men with issues like yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/24 12:25 AM |
| 4 | If women are allowed to divorce their husbands for wanting paternity test, then this guy is justified in leaving his wife for wanting to look at his phoneThankfully there wasn’t too many defending her outright. But there were far too many defending the concept of not trusting your partner to a degree that they would not themselves tolerate despite disagreeing. Hypocritical, in a similar vein as the discussion on this. The hypocrisy is all it boils down to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 07:24 PM |
| 6 | If women are allowed to divorce their husbands for wanting paternity test, then this guy is justified in leaving his wife for wanting to look at his phoneSeriously. Even men with severe depression don’t have an excuse for many. I think this situation could have been handled better, and psychosis with hormones etc. is a real thing. But in general I think situations like this are frankly a result of men never being given an inch. We beat it into men behavior x is controlling and abusive no matter the context, and then are shocked when they react to behavior when it’s directed at them as if it’s controlling and abusive. In some ways that’s great. We… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 06:54 PM |
| 9 | If women are allowed to divorce their husbands for wanting paternity test, then this guy is justified in leaving his wife for wanting to look at his phoneEspecially when the bags are full of tens of thousands of dollars you are secretly funneling off from your sole provider husband and then tell him you refuse to downsize as he is sobbing from working three jobs, because you “made this house a home.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 06:35 PM |
| 4 | If women are allowed to divorce their husbands for wanting paternity test, then this guy is justified in leaving his wife for wanting to look at his phoneConstructive criticism is not hatred. There are plenty of things men are bad at need to work on. The inability to allow criticism of women/feminism and the refusal to acknowledge double standards, even when presented on a silver platter via scientific means, is the problem most people have in those spaces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 06:24 PM |
| 4 | If women are allowed to divorce their husbands for wanting paternity test, then this guy is justified in leaving his wife for wanting to look at his phoneYeah. 80% divorce rates initiated by women is no joke. 90% of college educated women who get divorced initiate it. That is an insane stat when you sit down and think about it. Lesbian vs gay divorce rates show it further. My last therapist said to me at one point men are too cowardly and lazy to initiate divorce, and thus make women do it. It’s a complicated topic. But one aspect is anyone who is picky enough to end a relationship over something small needs to not get in a relationship. Death by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 06:19 PM |
| 1 | is making your partner pay for (almost) everything, feminism?I generally agree. Honestly I was pleasantly surprised at the comments. It’s just so hard to shake the feeling of how bizarre the words many use. They it is that so few are able to straight up say “no, it’s unfair to men. We want to be equal so we will share.” Easy peazy. There’s definitely some great reasonable comments in there but some… it looks right but feels off. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/08/24 04:14 AM |
| 2 | Lack of empathy for menCan you perhaps share the study you found this stat in? I’d love to read it. Genuinely it’s like pulling teeth from a crocodile trying to communicate the difference in bias that women have towards women comparatively. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/24 08:23 PM |
| 14 | The phase "feminism is for men too" is silly for two reasons.The huge irony of that being so much of homophobia and transphobia is rooted in misandry. I rarely ever see trans men or lesbian women get the amount of heat trans women and gay men do. The sheer amount of JK Rowling terfs that only see trans women as men essentially stealing issues from women because they’re simply “mentally ill” men that are playing dress up to invade women’s spaces, or women and conservatives that shit on men as soon as they find out they had one gay experience is mind boggli… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/24 08:35 PM |
| 1 | "Women might be pickier, but their preferences are also unique to each one of them", actually they're rather similarFor everyone arguing with their anecdotes, please remember statistics and how to use them properly. A trend of data hinting that something is important, despite how many that don’t fit that trend there are, is still a trend hinting that something is important. You’re anecdote of one woman like one thing means nothing if 80% of men are being rejected for that thing. Also please pay attention to thresholds for what qualifies as an issue: If 1% of women with a certain attribute experience a negativ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 07:58 PM |
| 1 | It’s not about the draft: The draft is symbolic for men being made to put themselves in harms way for others benefit.Most I think would agree with you. However, I think the really insidious part behind the curtain of that is how little choice we are actually giving men, as making that decision is not in a vacuum. If we actively punish men by isolating them socially for NOT actively being willing to sacrifice themselves, how can they truly have autonomy in that decision making process? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/24 08:43 AM |
| 1 | It’s not about the draft: The draft is symbolic for men being made to put themselves in harms way for others benefit.Arguing against the draft, while something I do think should be abolished, wasn’t the point of my post. The point was that, draft or no draft, men are being called to sacrifice themselves and their wellbeing. And until that is worked on, “draft culture” will still exist, and even if the draft be abolished, will just begin again at some point in the future. Until men are not the only ones required to go outside during a hurricane, something I saw a lot of on my life in various parts of the south,… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/24 03:56 AM |
| 1 | It’s not about the draft: The draft is symbolic for men being made to put themselves in harms way for others benefit.This is a great argument. Kudos. I’d also like to add as well that pregnancy is not the massive life threat that it once was. Yet we continually ignore, and even punish men that don’t want to put themselves in harms way. If a man can’t have a decent standing, and a relatively normal life in society without being willing to put himself on the line at all times, who are we failing really? Every single thing that effects men more is argued away as a nothing burger, from covid killing men to mothers… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/24 03:52 AM |
| 1 | It’s not about the draft: The draft is symbolic for men being made to put themselves in harms way for others benefit.It certainly is slavery. I’m talking specifically in some moments. Chain linking arms down a hill into a river to save someone that’s drowning. And even then women need to be involved now. The overall arching problem: Men socially demanded to put themselves in harms way so women are “safe”, and are punished for not doing so. If men are not allowed to have a relationship with a woman unless he’s willing to get on the roof during a hurricane and sacrifice his life and/wellbeing for them, when the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/08/24 03:37 AM |
| 5 | A woman secretly undergoes an abortion early in the relationship, feels guilty about it later, but gets encouraged by redditors that she 'doesn't need to tell him at all'Then say that to begin with. “I am fine with abortion, but without a comparable solution to men’s ability to also say no to a child through paper abortion, I struggle to support it.” See? So easy. Without it you just sound like a yahoo that doesn’t care about bodily autonomy and you make us all look bad, like the original comment in this read was talking about. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 06:37 AM |
| 12 | A woman secretly undergoes an abortion early in the relationship, feels guilty about it later, but gets encouraged by redditors that she 'doesn't need to tell him at all'Come off that bullshit. Men being able to not be on the hook for a child they don’t want is also beneficial. And abortion helps everyone with that. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 06:33 AM |
| 11 | A woman secretly undergoes an abortion early in the relationship, feels guilty about it later, but gets encouraged by redditors that she 'doesn't need to tell him at all'The transparency aspect is a philosophical problem I haven’t even thought about until this post never the less made my mind up about. You are just using ad hominem and not exactly contributing to any coherent logic or discussion. Believe me I don’t like some of the conservative political undertones here either, but you’re missing the point. Most of the men here are frustrated that they have absolutely no say anything. In this situation, imagine you get a dog with your partner, and break up, and … | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 06:13 AM |
| 24 | A woman secretly undergoes an abortion early in the relationship, feels guilty about it later, but gets encouraged by redditors that she 'doesn't need to tell him at all'More women than men are pro choice, fyi. Speaking as a liberal myself, you might want to re-assess. I don’t like traditionalists being so acutely pro-choice myself as it strikes me as odd and inconsistent with other values but I don’t think this post is addressing that at all. It’s far more about transparency than anything. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/24 05:31 AM |
| 3 | It’s not about the draft: The draft is symbolic for men being made to put themselves in harms way for others benefit.You speak very highly of me if you think I can make the equivalent of atlas shrugged from a post I made on Reddit lmao. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/08/24 04:03 AM |
| 20 | Misandry, fear-mongering,and transphobiaIt’s insane how so much of the terf criticism is only focused on transphobia, when that’s exactly the case. JK Rowlings ability to centralize women as the sole victims of everything is astonishing. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 15/08/24 10:04 PM |
| 7 | It’s not about the draft: The draft is symbolic for men being made to put themselves in harms way for others benefit.That’s essentially what I’m saying here. “Draft Culture” is a fantastic phrase for it. I have been seeing a ton of videos recently of women lambasting the men around them for not putting themselves in harms way when a guy with a gun approaches her, for example. It’s also the reason why the mortality rate at work is so great. We either have to work to reduce it, or at least socially give men some sort of social power in exchange for the expectation (as an idea, for example. I don’t know what exac… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/24 04:39 AM |
| 7 | It’s not about the draft: The draft is symbolic for men being made to put themselves in harms way for others benefit.Perhaps I didn’t use the correct word with symbolic. But if we do abolish the draft, it will be symbolic just as the white feather is symbolic to men’s struggles with expecting to put themselves in harms way. If we want equality, we have to address that men are the one in day to day that are expected to be willing to sacrifice themselves, whether it be physical altercations or grinding themselves to dust on the job physically and mentally. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/08/24 04:35 AM |
| 9 | It’s not about the draft: The draft is symbolic for men being made to put themselves in harms way for others benefit.You are right for sure. The only problem is even in a situation where both sexes are drafted there is likely still going to be a separation and women are not going to be treated as expendable. We can see that in Ukraine unfortunately. Articles were coming out near instantly about how women stayed to help… but they were mostly helping with supplies etc. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/08/24 11:44 PM |
| 5 | If sex is the universal "carrot on a stick" for women, what would the male equivalent be?The two are incomparable unfortunately after a certain point. A one time lifetime commitment is very different than a continuous series of acts that can be given and taken away at will. I think the two were far more comparable before the advent of birth control but even then there are tons of ways to at least mitigate it. Not to mention sex is not generally had in a vacuum. It generally comes with a lot of other things: Love, compassion, companionship, physical affection, purpose, social status,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 08:45 PM |
| 2 | When you think about it. A lot of damned if you don't, and damned if you do type of situations just boils down to how society react to unattractive men vs attractive men.Unfortunately due to how ubiquitous the hypocrisy is I fear we don’t have much of a choice if we truly want to make progress. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/08/24 08:38 PM |
| 5 | If sex is the universal "carrot on a stick" for women, what would the male equivalent be?You don’t read at all dude. Domestic violence in the cases of being hit and not being able to defend oneself because of social and institutional consequences. Men certainly have a responsibility to take care of themselves but we have to give them access to the tools to be able to use it. Crime goes down when people have access to things that take them out of poverty. Learn to comprehend what you’re reading and respond to the details and refute things individually (and preferably with evidence) b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 07:10 PM |
| 6 | If sex is the universal "carrot on a stick" for women, what would the male equivalent be?You clearly didn’t read what I have to say. You are correct, but you are over simplifying everything to a dangerous degree. Dogs correct each others behavior. If I put a dog in a room with a bunch of other dogs and allow other dogs to correct their behavior, and punish that dog via negative reinforcement when it tries to correct other dogs, it will not attempt to correct anymore, even despite when it’s necessary. And this leads to worse treatment of them as behavior towards them escalates. This … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 06:51 PM |
| 7 | If sex is the universal "carrot on a stick" for women, what would the male equivalent be?I think this kind of thinking has a three-fold problem to it: A. Men are used to this behavior from an early age so they generally don’t know they are allowed to say no and demand more from women or walk away. There’s also not very much social pressure at all for women to treat their partners well, be reasonable, and so on. I see in my own life and elsewhere far too many women getting away with abhorrent, emotionally abusive behavior toward their partners and seeing zero recourse for it. There’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 05:57 PM |
| 3 | JK Rowling about the boxing controversy: men enjoying punching women in the head is summary of men's rights movementIt is mind boggling how JK Rowling can make everything about women being a victim, and men being perpetrators, and to so many the only people she is victimizing is trans people. How do people not see beyond that, even for a second, to gleam how much hatred she and so many others have towards men and their complete inability to see a complex web of problems, tunnel visioning only on how women are victims? We get to sit here and watch people discuss whether the athlete at the Olympics is even tran… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/24 06:11 PM |
| 16 | She makes $550,000 a year. Her husband makes $60,000. Here's how it affects their relationshipThis article would feel straight out of the 40’s or 50’s if the you switched the names. It reads incredibly regressive. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/24 07:27 PM |
| 6 | Calling men "pornsick" is a distraction from the fact that social media has over-exposed women to choiceWomen’s pickiness is not caused by social media. It has exacerbated it but it is certainly not the cause. Are we going to blame social media for sexist attitudes towards men too or are we going to make a concerted effort to push bigoted groups into not being bigoted? It’s a joke to sit here and state women weren’t picky with men until Instagram and tinder came around. Hold them accountable for how they choose to treat men and then dating apps and the like can’t enable their behavior. There’s not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 07:02 PM |
| 30 | Holyshit guys It's possible that the presidential election will turn to Men vs Women controversyAs a lifelong democrat, it would be a mistake for this to turn into a “vote for her because it’s a ‘her’” campaign. It’s the exact type of ideology that fuels a lot of Trump voters. Unfortunately I think that is a very real possibility. | /r/MensRights | 22/07/24 12:01 AM |
| – | Young women today may be perpetrating sexual assault at similar rates as young men, according to recent dataWonderful write up on this! Thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 07:55 AM |
| 12 | Not giving women agency is harmful towards both women and men.Meet people where they are. Try to understand what they WANT to say. If you disagree with them and you’re caught up on vernacular and bullshit details you won’t even be able to refute their actual point, and you’ll discredit yourself by being an ass in the process. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/24 10:57 PM |
| 23 | Not giving women agency is harmful towards both women and men.It’s just wording. We don’t “give” as in we don’t attribute the decisions they make to themselves and thus don’t properly assess their decision making or hold them accountable. OP is just using colloquial vernacular. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/07/24 04:54 PM |
| 2 | So let me get this straight, men are obligated to put themselves at risk for random people?One of the things that always is insane to me in these conversations is the inability to recognize that by being non reactive it’s possible that it is for their protection. There is assure potential to accidentally escalate a situation to violence that would be prevented if you simply don’t act. A scared person with a gun or knife is far more dangerous than a person running away with your stuff they has a gun or knife. Especially when the average person is not a trained fucking navy seal. Are th… | /r/MensRights | 18/07/24 12:46 AM |
| 3 | How do you all feel about evolutionary psychology and it's play in male-female interpersonal relationships?I’m sure it can absolutely be annoying, and I do empathize with that, partially because this happens to men as well. I feel like that is very often overlooked. But honestly, why exactly is this being interpreted as “ah c’monnnn give him a chanceeee.”? I was asking specifically why is there less moral questioning for women various preferences in the dating/sexual market place compared to men, in the context of studying evolutionary psychology from a philosophical stand point of “why” we should. N… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/07/24 06:26 PM |
| 4 | it's an awful feeling when real problems are seen as ridiculous hypotheticalsThis bothers me a ton. If the divorce date was 80% initiated by men it would be mentioned a ton in feminist circles, similar how that one study about how men apparently leave when their wives have cancer that’s now been retracted. It is infuriating to me that they don’t seem to have empathy for men being on the receiving end of being abandoned in relationships comparatively to that degree. There’s a lot of nuance and detail obviously, but every discussion just seems to revolve around justificati… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/07/24 06:10 PM |
| 28 | How do you all feel about evolutionary psychology and it's play in male-female interpersonal relationships?There is two parts to these conversations that I feel must be touched on: Any discussion about evolutionary psychology that paints women in a negative light and paints men in any light that leans toward being even slightly a victim in some ways is demonized. So in many aspects we have a dearth of research and taking it seriously as a science. The morality of it: Just because the science explains some sort of behavior historically within humans does NOT mean that behavior is morally acceptable. O… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/07/24 07:56 PM |
| 3 | A depressing thread that captures the depth of the feminist lefts failure of male victims and how deeply bias can drive one's worldviewI think mutual abuse is a rather vague term and there’s needs to be way more behind it. If someone gets abused for a period of time and now, at their emotional limit, fights back once is it now mutual abuse? Now the party that was victimized initially is demonized for defending themselves and I’m not sure that’s a good way to examine things. Like most terms in this field the vagueness of a term tends to lend itself to being misused, often even purposely, by nefarious parties. Why terms like patr… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/07/24 07:36 PM |
| 3 | Why do other men support societal delusion?I agree with you in part, but we actively have tons of discussions around the morality of various aspects of men’s biological proclivities. Even if it’s not “changeable”, it is certainly our moral obligation to discuss it and bring awareness to it. Even if it can’t simply be edited out of their biology the awareness can bring a lot of good into helping people control themselves and protect themselves from poor/unfair treatment. It’s paramount to people’s well being to have those discussions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Are we able to conduct our own research to help fill in the gaps to help prove our points?I’m definitely aware of the difficulty. Frankly I feel I am incredibly critical of how information is displayed and do my absolute best to try not to be biased. For example I am sometimes critical of how mens advocates state how men are far and away the victims of violent crime. While this is absolutely true there are a number of variables, including how women take an incredible number of precautions that men do not. But that’s also in part because we hyper regulate women’s safety both in the la… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/24 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Guys are not bad at sex-- you areAbsolutely it is. I even would just love to talk about it with a partner. My last girlfriend of over a year cried once when I told her I just wanted to receive a compliment outside of the bedroom, and when I asked her to communicate more so I could at least know she was enjoying it so I didn’t have to get in my head as much she never did anything different. It feels like pulling teeth just to be able to work on it ever with almost everyone I’ve dated. So damn frustrating. And nothing like being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 05:37 PM |
| 4 | The neurodiversity movement appear to have a bias against autistic men and autistic people who aren't extremely high functioning.It’s definitely absolute BS. Many of the women in my life with ADHD just don’t get slammed for being socially impulsive, and having been a teacher in my experience there is definitely a bias against boys showcasing similar behaviors. If I’m not mistaken there’s data somewhere showing boys are punished more harshly for similar behaviors in school as well (shockingly like our court system). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/05/24 06:58 AM |
| 3 | Guys are not bad at sex-- you areAlso it’s really difficult to keep up doing everything, stay erect, focused, etc. when you’re getting nothing back. It’s not just all the work physically it’s emotionally too. Reading all the cues, initiating, warming her up, interpreting every sound in movement (and having to do so correctly), trying to do the right thing with zero feedback or suggestions. Then you get the stress of doubt if you’re doing it right or not, worrying about messing up, and if it’s a long term partner those stresses … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 04:06 AM |
| 17 | Do we have evidence of sperm being stolen for personal use?Yeah that was insane. It bothers me a great deal that there isn’t a bigger outcry when stuff like that happens. It is so incredibly fucked up to try and do that. Otherwise I’ve seen a number of women in various media over the years admit to forms of “baby trapping”. | /r/MensRights | 25/05/24 03:45 AM |
| 4 | Does modern dating and the cut throat social heirarchy breed emotional distance and encourage anti social personalities in men?I think this is one of the biggest frustrations for the vast majority of men. The vast vast majority of men want to be principled and disciplined in their values. We value it a lot. Even if we don’t agree with someone’s principles we at least respect them because they have principles they want to follow, and are consistent with them. So not only do we feel emotionally betrayed when our issues are ignored or played off as “not the same” or lesser, it is philosophically devastating. It makes men n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Are we able to conduct our own research to help fill in the gaps to help prove our points?You’re far further along than I am. I’m in my 30s and trying to go back to get my degree after dropping out. I have most of a political science major, stats classes, and general interest under my belt though, and a willingness to learn. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/24 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Are we able to conduct our own research to help fill in the gaps to help prove our points?I will definitely DM you! | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/05/24 03:45 PM |
| – | Why do men push for 50/50 relationship when women find most men unattractive?Because we want equality too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 06:10 AM |
| 54 | The neurodiversity movement appear to have a bias against autistic men and autistic people who aren't extremely high functioning.As someone with adult diagnosed ADHD I feel it’s pretty similar. Seeing discussions veer towards women with the statement “AnD iT’s PaRtIcUlArLy HaRdEr fOr wOmEn” while I’m dealing with a disability that’s wreaked havoc on my life and wellbeing makes me want to scream. Most of the women I know with ADHD also seem to get a ton of leeway on issues that I just don’t: socially especially. I can’t get away with impulsive behavior of touching people and saying shitty things and it will destroy my life… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/05/24 01:01 AM |
| 2 | Yikes- a horrific take hereIt should absolutely be. Just like stealthing is. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 23/05/24 12:23 AM |
| 20 | How dare you explain the trauma of a false accusation? I'm gonna falsely accuse you now!Do these people think Emmitt Till didn’t suffer at all from a false accusation? I genuinely don’t understand their logic. We need a whole as justice system and laws outlawing vigilantism to protect the integrity of human rights and enforce even when people DO commit crimes so we’re not lawless angry mobs, never the less dealing with people who are falsely accused. What an insane way of thinking. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 21/05/24 07:46 PM |
| 1 | The problem is lonelinessLoneliness in men clearly was mostly absent in large swathes of society before the absent of social media. /s. It exacerbates some problems but give me a fucking break. I see blame on social media in every thread here and it completely ignores so much history. Not to mention social media also creates an insane amount of connections. I owe, and many people I know owe many of their friendships to its existence. | /r/MensRights | 19/05/24 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Anti-incel sites radicalise incels way more than any incel sites, here's why:Would love a link to that study per chance! | /r/MensRights | 16/05/24 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Men, what do you think about the poisoned Skittles/M&Ms/candy/muffin analogy?Sorry it is a pretty broad question. So just looking for any insight from your perspective. I mean in the sense that as a woman, how do you see scenarios of women taking accountability? Behind closed doors in a room full of women do they speak to each other differently about being accountable? Do you speak to each other and hold each other accountable? How do you see how other women treat their partners in heterosexual relationships? | /r/EverydayMisandry | 10/05/24 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Men, what do you think about the poisoned Skittles/M&Ms/candy/muffin analogy?Out of curiosity, as I’m guessing you are a woman judging by your username, what is your perspective on that (having discussions about accountability with women by both men and women)? I’m very curious how it looks from a woman’s perspective. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 09/05/24 05:28 PM |
| 6 | Men, what do you think about the poisoned Skittles/M&Ms/candy/muffin analogy?My closest female friends are great at taking feedback. There’s a reason we are so close. My romantic partners historically have been terrible at it, as well as ex friends for that reason. Mostly because if I don’t toe the line of agreeing with them the friendship can essentially end. But yes largely I both find women difficult to have those types of conversations with, as well as generally don’t see them have those conversations with each other. I also can’t stand the lack of continuity when sp… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/05/24 07:55 AM |
| 8 | Men, what do you think about the poisoned Skittles/M&Ms/candy/muffin analogy?I would be more okay with it if it was applied in both directions. I would love to see feminists and women in general hold other women more accountable. Women who abuse children, emotional neglect of boys/men, abuse the court system, financial abuse through gender expectations, false accusations, bias in education and the work place, emotional abuse… Instead we just see the same analogy used to minimize those factors. “It almost never happens!” It’s quite maddening. All my male friends, even acq… | /r/EverydayMisandry | 08/05/24 06:54 AM |
| 21 | Men don't need to open up more; society needs to be more perceptive.Men opening up and being vulnerable also does very little in terms of solving their problems. In my experience people will listen to men talk about their problems, but care very little to actually address them. If you solve a broken bone that person won’t have a broken bone to complain about. Instead we wait until it heals incorrectly and the person is permanently stuck with an injury they will complain about for the rest of their life, and over time we get tired of hearing them talk about it an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/04/24 06:25 PM |
| 7 | What are the cultural aspects of your society that are harmful to men's mental health?One underrated aspect I think in this discussion is physical health. We are so incredibly negligent about men’s physical health, which has a direct impact on their mental health. We encourage men from a young age to ignore their own well being, and even sacrifice for others, particularly women and children, and also encourage them to be far riskier with their physical health. Some of this is obviously innate risk taking built in, but I and so many others were constantly shamed for being cautious… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/04/24 05:27 PM |
| 0 | Why do men get so much hate from women nowadays when lesbians have the highest rates of divorce & domestic violence and their relationships don’t last?In my experience those kind of women are exactly the day to day norm of women I’ve dealt with all my life. Even if they are less aggressive in their dismissiveness it seems extremely normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/24 05:00 AM |
| 2 | Biden Proposed the Opposite of Equality for Men's Health SupportI would say from the obvious political capital they get from pandering to women’s issues, at least in part, the massive backlash they would get for proposing anything to help men. Even acknowledging men are in need of help beyond “men should go to therapy or share their emotions/hug each other” just get such intense amounts of vitriolic retaliation. It’s sad and pathetic at this point. Both their inability to address issues with any real leadership, as well as the backlash against men’s issues a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/24 12:38 AM |
| 18 | Why the political worldviews of young men and women are increasingly diverging | DW Analysis (My criticism)This is super interesting. I would say that just because someone understands the topic induces polarized responses does not mean they understand exactly why it does. I know too many women who are feminist, who treat relationships transactionally and want traditional relationships and are baffled at the slightest bit of push back. They just don’t understand why anyone would be against feminist arguments at all, even in their own interactions being obviously hypocritical. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/03/24 10:32 PM |
| 6 | RIP to Japan, you guys had a good runI believe this is true though I’d love to see the data again to confirm. Also, I can’t believe no one takes this into account, but if one is to succeed they can’t attempt again. People who don’t succeed can. And if they are still mentally unwell likely will. Just a sum of suicide attempts per gender doesn’t take this into account. It’s like when people blame violence on all men but in reality most of those offenses are often repeat offenders, a small portion committing a large percentage of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 05:50 PM |
| 3 | Genuinely curious, would this go the opposite way?Ironically I would generally agree with them in the sense that if that’s your partner you should be able to talk with them and try and work on things. My main issue being in the reverse situation, no matter how difficult of a situation or depression the man is facing it just seems like the answers would be wildly different. I think that is one of the reasons for the general malaise we’re seeing with men. The feeling of expendability that leads to abandonment when you’re struggling. It’s sold as … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/24 06:59 PM |
| 2 | Genuinely curious, would this go the opposite way?Unfortunately it’s not an online only thing. I’m sure aspects of it are exacerbated by online spaces but it definitely seems to have been a thing long before the advent of social media. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/02/24 06:38 PM |
| 1 | These things have existed long before social media and dating apps. It’s time to stop using them as a scapegoat and acknowledge the people behind them.I would say the technology is doing more continuing the behavior as opposed to causing. All the behavior is scientifically observable before social media and without social media. Meaning fixing social media or getting rid of it is only a band aid at best, and ignoring giving accountability to people who would display that behavior even without social media at worst. Fix the problem not the symptom. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/24 10:23 PM |
| 2 | These things have existed long before social media and dating apps. It’s time to stop using them as a scapegoat and acknowledge the people behind them.It definitely is. It’s genuinely irksome watching conversations unfold about tendencies men share with other males of the animal kingdom and state how men need to police each other and themselves, delving into moral philosophy while conveniently leaving women out of the discussion, and just generally developing amnesia when it comes to science that paints women in a less than angelic light For example. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/24 07:51 PM |
| 10 | These things have existed long before social media and dating apps. It’s time to stop using them as a scapegoat and acknowledge the people behind them.Not sure. Maybe a bit of both. I hope it’s traditional culture more than biology because that means these things are fixable. If not I’m not sure where we go from here. Regardless though we’ve had very prominent conversations around aspects of men’s proclivities that can seem biologically ingrained and we all agree some of those are not acceptable, but we are essentially forbidden from doing the same with women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/24 04:48 AM |
| 4 | What is happening to this sub?Taking women and many other demographics into account doesn’t mean we don’t stand up for ourselves and hold women accountable. It just means not being hypocritical about our values and making sure we are interpreting data subjectively and not through an ideological lense or letting our frustration allow us to treat others unfairly. That’s all. Otherwise I fully agree with you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 09:24 PM |
| 15 | What is happening to this sub?I don’t mean “women’s issues should take front and center and we need to cautiously talk about men without stepping on their feelings.” The whole reason this place exists is because we essentially became politically homeless. I am as critical as anyone of feminism. I just mean everything is connected to an extent and there needs to be caution and intellectual integrity and empathy (in true leftist fashion) so we don’t become what we despise. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 04:50 AM |
| -4 | What is happening to this sub?I mean that’s the whole point though if all of this isn’t it? We need to counterbalance some issues so they are truly equal and fair. The whole reason groups like this one have raised is because the insistence of feminism and women’s groups to advocate for themselves at the expense of men, instead of treading carefully and finding real constructive solutions and accountability on the part of everyone. Just the same as we must take into account lgbt and racial minorities. I refuse to do harm to a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 02:17 AM |
| 18 | What is happening to this sub?Women’s issues need to be part of the discussion as they are influenced by life and deserve a voice. Too many women’s space castigate men from their spaces and pile on without regard and I don’t believe it’s fair to have the same mentality. We can be male focused, but we still must keep everyone else in mind. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/24 11:48 PM |
| 4 | Gen Z men are leaning more conservative while Gen Z women are much more liberalI really despise these kinds of analysis. Not because I don’t think they’re important, but because it just feels so meaningless to me as most people are very inconsistent with their value structures. How many times do we talk about frustration with the left and feminism because they simultaneously hold up traditional values for men and want “progressive” policies for themselves? What good is it to label someone as conservative when they may have a completely different value system than most othe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/24 09:18 PM |
| 5 | The "Men need women more than women need men" trope is a strange oneI think there needs to be an asterisk on some of this research. A. I’ve read studies saying the opposite in terms of who suffers more after break ups. I’ve even read science talking about how men’s bonding (vasopressin) chemical being different than women’s (oxytocin) is responsible. Not %100 but it’s worth more of a look. B. We have socialized a lot of the benefits men would classically bring to women in bygone eras. In terms of protection for example: We have police officers, we have whole soc… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/24 06:29 PM |
| 8 | The "Men need women more than women need men" trope is a strange oneThis is very eloquently put. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/24 06:11 PM |
| 3 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.I could even forgive the tradition on the first date. It’s the complete betrayal of equality in deep intimate relationships. Ive seen far too many men get destroyed by their partners for having a financial slip up, or getting laid off… Completely flipping and treating their partner like absolute garbage if they start making more money, or decide they want a “better lifestyle”. Meanwhile many men have never even been taken out on a SINGULAR date before. And a lot of men (myself included due to pa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.%100 a violation of bodily autonomy. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/24 07:39 PM |
| 5 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.It all comes down to value systems and if they are consistent. I have no problem with the vast majority of value systems as long as they are consistent. The moment you step outside of your value system it becomes entitled self interest and no, I don’t think thats fair in any way. At all. If a man claims he’s for equality but then wants his partner to be subservient then we should punished that (socially) quite harshly. As well as in the reverse situation. This is not freedom of speech type stuff… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/24 07:34 PM |
| 4 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.If I told a woman her boobs weren’t big enough for me to her face, or that she should clean more than I do because I think it’s her job there would be absolute hell breaking lose. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 07:26 PM |
| 3 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.%100. It either is a willful ignorance of their double standards due to entitlement or an inability to conceptualize what men actually do. My aim with this post was to give a perspective that money is not just this thing we have or don’t and can throw it around, as opposed to something that was earner with our labor and time on this earth. One of our most precious resources. If it’s a willful ignorance of that effort and use of resources that men do, then it’s an absolute disaster and I honestly… | /r/MensRights | 24/01/24 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.How do you even find women that aren’t like that? Even in situations where it seems it’s fine often I feel like there’s been a bait and switch. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 05:08 PM |
| 6 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.This is an un-gendered study but the numbers are absolutely frightening. Especially while comparing how we treat our romantic partners in that situation vs. how we treat our friends and family members. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/would-your-spouse-leave-you-if-you-lost-your-job-quicken-study-shows-maybe-301796550.html#:~:text=The%20overwhelming%20majority%20(80%25),weren't%20laid%20off%20themselves. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 04:47 PM |
| 7 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.Absolutely. How on earth is it possible to feel like you can be an equal partner with those expectations of you? Here’s a study that shows nearly half of women would consider their partner being unemployed for only a few months to be a reason to end the relationship. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/break-partner-lost-job-190009974.html#:~:text=However%2C%20this%20percentage%20goes%20up,by%20the%20TD%20Bank%20survey. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 04:44 PM |
| 20 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.It’s preposterous. If someone makes $20 an hour and you expect them to pay for a nice dinner that runs $100 you’re essentially saying you are entitled to 5 hours of their labor (more if you include tip). I certainly don’t mind, it’s just difficult when you realize how little it’s reciprocated. And if you don’t? Oof. And that’s not in a relationship where you expect your partner to make more than you, pay the majority of the bills, AND do the vast majority of the dangerous and dirty jobs. Those d… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 07:54 AM |
| 16 | Societies financial/success expectations of men IS their version of bodily autonomy.The double standard is truly ridiculous. Especially with the lack of being able to push back. The fact that so much of it seems to be explained away as “attraction” when we’ve already had a discussion about how men’s sexual preferences can indeed be unethical is the most infuriating part. One of the worst parts of it is small bumps in the road for men can create an extreme amount of stress for men in relationships. Everything is great until he gets laid off, or is hurt in the job and has to swit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/24 07:39 AM |
| 89 | Young men are accomplishing less than ever before. Experts point to 'male malaise.'I would also hazard a guess that the bias shown towards girls in schools growing up via grades for the same work can be extrapolated out to many other facets of life: Jobs, social rewards, etc. And whether it’s consciously noticed as a bias or merely just felt through a lack of self esteem for those that aren’t aware of the bias, it damn well will have an effect on their attitude, motivation, and so on. People that feel they are discriminated against, and that there’s nothing they can do, will f… | /r/MensRights | 11/01/24 09:51 AM |
| 9 | Is anyone else sick of feminists using “incel” as a catch-all term to attempt to shut down any discussion of men’s rights?It’s such a deeply sexist term. Not just as a pejorative, but in the sense that calling someone one means they believe the person to be of no value unless a woman approves of what they have to say and has sex with them. Any point anyone makes, is not right or wrong based on what women alone believe. If it’s right it does matter who is saying it. You can put it behind a pretty/attractive face, or a more sympathetic one, etc. It does not make a point any more true or not. If a man needs a woman to… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/22 09:29 AM |
| 5 | Anecdotal job discrimination. Is it a large scale problem?Don’t forget willfully ignoring the challenges and barriers that most men face too despite it being a predominantly male field. To say “look at these men that get through it” without looking at the challenges they faced and all those that failed is survivorship bias. Not to mention the willful ignorance of how women can receive “benevolent sexism” in male dominated fields. Plus I’m fairly certain OOP is referring to “customer service” with CS and not computer science. That seems to be the consen… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/07/22 11:03 PM |
| 12 | Anecdotal job discrimination. Is it a large scale problem?Those that are hiring the best candidates. Not necessarily for the rest of society to shut their eyes when they see negative trends associated with gender and pretend it doesn’t exist. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/07/22 02:17 AM |
| 23 | Anecdotal job discrimination. Is it a large scale problem?I’ve noticed in my own jobs that when women are in charge more women are promoted. It’s easy to get caught up in the “progress” that women are succeeding and forget that the goal is to forget gender entirely and promote the best candidate. I have often times felt that I was on the outside of many jobs with a female inner circle and it was demotivating in terms of applying myself. And of course any suggestion even close that someone or an organization is bias towards women is met with scorn and a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/07/22 11:59 PM |
| 10 | I think I may know one reason why conservatism is a popular outlet for those who are anti-woke/pro-male.This is daft. There is a difference between only accepting equality under the law and creating systems that address problems that are unique to men, as well as countering women/feminist ideology that is incredibly harmful, and creates a disproportionate social attitude that supports women/demonizes or diminishes men and their contributions to society. There does not have to be complete social equality for society to stand up against inequalities that harm men. We aren’t asking for complete equit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/04/22 05:44 PM |
| 6 | People’s standards of men’s confidence is fucking wild to mePerhaps. I personally don’t read who the post is from first. The downside of an anonymous forum. Though once I realized it was you my response certainly changed from negative to positive. The phrase generally just had an awful connotation at the moment unfortunately. It’s why I feel like I have to say “Genuinely asking really not trying to be a dick: Source”? It’s rather absurd tbh. We should be able to ask for solutions, a source for data, etc. without it being interpreted as whataboutism, dism… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/22 06:08 PM |
| 11 | People’s standards of men’s confidence is fucking wild to meThe idea that one needs to be confident at all times is just such a ridiculous notion to me. Any idiot can be confident. Being intelligent/self aware comes with acknowledging one’s flaws and being able to be nervous, unsure, etc. Wanting people to be confident seems to reinforce Dunning-Krueger in a lot of ways. It’s preposterous. When someone demands that of their partner, or even group of people it comes across as selfishly not wanting to deal with their problems so they can focus on their own… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/22 06:03 PM |
| 9 | People’s standards of men’s confidence is fucking wild to meI think you meant well but it came across as dismissive. It’s definitely something that has been used against me when trying to talk about even just the recognition of issues men face. I think talking about active solutions, even if just for men to help themselves individually, is something we need to do more of. Perhaps adding a section in each discussion thread to propose solutions? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/04/22 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Most detractors of Feminism seem to push more traditional gender roles. Is this good a good thing or no?I agree completely. This was more of expressing my concerns for what I see broadly. When I see a retort like “Men do all the dangerous jobs!”, I rarely see anything after that implying A. How women should be up to doing that work in an equal society as well, nor B. How do we fix it so large swaths of men are not being required to risk their well-being. I do think there is a complex conversation to be had because some biological differences will get in the way. And I do think there needs to be mo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 03:55 PM |
| 4 | Most detractors of Feminism seem to push more traditional gender roles. Is this good a good thing or no?She has some traditional leaning aspects to her. But in general the concern I have by a lot of trad cons, specifically when they are women, dissenting against feminism is that it comes across as “Well if we want strong attractive men who will be work horses we should treat the, well!”. It feels quite insulting, as a man, to be honest. Especially in the dating sphere. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 03:45 PM |
| 0 | Most detractors of Feminism seem to push more traditional gender roles. Is this good a good thing or no?I certainly don’t believe in partriarchy, nor in the historical oppression of women. I was just being brief to get on with it. I do however believe in autonomy and there were aspects that were certainly unfair to both men and women simultaneously. Though I think we largely under appreciate the sacrifice the average man has made historically and how we discarded their health. I always think of the picture of men crammed into cubbies on an elevator to go into the coal mines when anyone speaks of w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 03:40 PM |
| 3 | Most detractors of Feminism seem to push more traditional gender roles. Is this good a good thing or no?I agree completely. I was just being brief to get in with the point. Not to mention the insane lengths men have historically gone through to just be attractive women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 03:36 PM |
| 3 | Confused about feminists' prioritiesGenuinely asking so I can read more about this: Source? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/03/22 10:57 PM |
| 4 | Are our modern dysfunctional gender roles rooted in an instinctual tendency to treat women as if they always were or could be pregnant?Hmmm… I think you have a good point there. Apologies. At larger population sizes and not the extremes I think I can see the benefit. Though it doesn’t strike me in any way as reflecting “equality”, nor does it seem to reflect a harmonious way of living. It does strike me as an excuse to treat men like shit or justify extreme pickiness by women to such a degree that it isolates amazing guys, or at least justifies not giving boys adequate resources to become decent men. There is a neglectful tende… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/03/22 12:49 PM |
| 8 | Are our modern dysfunctional gender roles rooted in an instinctual tendency to treat women as if they always were or could be pregnant?Seriously what is with his common this answer is? Inbreeding is extremely dangerous. Using it as a way to say “yeah it’s okay if men are expendable” is just ridiculous… Regardless if it’s true or not. But it’s not even remotely true. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/03/22 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Can male overrepresentation in violent crime/CEOs of companies be best explained by sexual selection?I think this ignores statistical curves: While the curves for men are flatter and have more representation at the extremes, the vast majority are still in/around the center as are women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/22 05:13 AM |
| 17 | Can male overrepresentation in violent crime/CEOs of companies be best explained by sexual selection?There needs to be a concerted effort to reiterate over and over again that while men hold the vast majority of these types of jobs, they are absolutely BRUTAL. The pressure and hours are insane. If that is the only outlet for men to be successful, career wise or with women, then is that any life at all? The vast majority of men don’t seek these jobs at all. Who is the winner in a marriage where one is constantly working and the other has a good work life balance? Why is that an expectation of me… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/02/22 02:28 AM |
| 6 | Women and children first policy in place in Kyiv for trains leaving the city as Russian forces approachThere was an article about a 25 year old woman making molotov cocktails in the subways of Kyiv. Even then, I think there needs to be a distinction between helping and working together and being in the trenches for one another. I’ve seen this conversation numerous times about how women can be drafted and serve non-combat roles if they can’t contribute as much physically, but that does not solve the underlying problem of only men being put in harms way first, even if for the greater good, nor the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/22 09:21 PM |
| 8 | Women and children first policy in place in Kyiv for trains leaving the city as Russian forces approachHear, hear! Well said. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/22 10:25 AM |
| 22 | Women and children first policy in place in Kyiv for trains leaving the city as Russian forces approachIsn’t the issue that women and vulnerable are synonymous with each other? The issue is disconnecting them. That and the push to view women as both capable and vulnerable simultaneously. While only still pushing for men to be viewed in a conservative “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” sort of way. Because let’s be real, either gender, unarmed, staring into the barrel of a gun are just as vulnerable as the other, regardless of physical capability. The perception that men aren’t as vulnerable is… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/22 06:46 AM |
| 10 | Women and children first policy in place in Kyiv for trains leaving the city as Russian forces approachCompletely agree. As I stated in a comment above: We’ve acknowledged some evolutionary tendencies of men are not acceptable as we’ve grown as a species/civilization. Either none of it is okay, or all of its okay. And all of it is not okay. So that leaves us with only one option. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/22 05:42 AM |
| 19 | Women and children first policy in place in Kyiv for trains leaving the city as Russian forces approachWe’ve acknowledged some evolutionary tendencies of men are not acceptable as we’ve grown as a species/civilization. Why do we need to stop there? Either none of it is okay, or all of its okay. And all of it is not okay. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/02/22 05:41 AM |
| 4 | The data are clear: The boys are not all rightThat’s an interesting concept. Though it’s fascinating that the push to emphasize victomhood and vulnerability only goes one way. Men aren’t allowed to be vulnerable, or even more so, struggle. At least not with women, or in a way that takes away resources from women. Is it because it’s a conservative push in disguise? A narcissistic means of being vulnerable? I.e. They push their vulnerable like a Trojan Horse, the helplessness wrapped around narcissism and greed, get what they want? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/22 11:42 AM |
| 41 | The data are clear: The boys are not all rightNow you warn me. Fuck my life man that was absolutely brutal. What the hell is wrong with people. Top comment about fucking house chores are you serious? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 11/02/22 05:29 AM |
| 3 | I see feminism as a form of entryismThank you! Well done on this. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/22 12:43 AM |
| 14 | Study that showed men leaving their sick wifes was flawed.This is absolutely shocking. Reading this nearly brought me to tears, in both ways, utter sadness for how your wife had treated you and the beauty of you helping your friend with cancer as well. I hope you’re doing well now. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/22 02:03 PM |
| 5 | I see feminism as a form of entryismI’ve seen stats on that from more balanced left wing academics like Cathy Young on Twitter after George Floyd. In some of them there was a similar percentage of white men killed compared to black. All in all it was about 99% of police killings were men. I’m not sure though I can take a look. I think there should absolutely be more data on not just murder, but injuries based on severity as well. TheTinMen already covered this particular topic I think? I’m unsure, but think I remember seeing it. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/02/22 01:57 PM |
| 44 | I see feminism as a form of entryismOr worse, co-opting issues that aren’t even theirs to begin with. The statistics on police violence against men is utterly damning. Yet so much of the focus was on black women. A girl I knew set me a damn Ted Tok (accidental but I’m keeping it) on why we don’t hear about black women who are killed by the police. Yet the Daniel Shaver I saw who was shot while on his knees in the hotel, offering himself to be arrested was involved nowhere near the movement. I wonder if this is a group dynamic or a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/02/22 10:50 PM |
| 12 | Paper: Even in Sweden low education and income negatively affect men's ability to have children but not women's. This can be explained by sexual exchange theory that describes heterosexual partner selection with economic market factors. Sex is a female resource, created by a supply-demand imbalance.About the male victimization: I do understand how one may see men who feel compelled to participate in this kind of exchange as victims. But at the same time, I can’t relate personally. No one is holding a gun to my head and making me participate in this exchange. I decided long ago that I don’t want to do it. And if that means being lonely, so be it. Not like what I was looking for is really there to begin with if this exchange aspect plays such a prominent role. If there is enough scarcity it … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/02/22 12:12 PM |
| 3 | Open letter to a feminist aggrieved by our "lack of education"I would argue that it’s not just your education level that makes you intelligent: It’s also your ability to be open to new information and adjust accordingly. The problem when dealing with most feminists, or conservative types, is that hearing new information only seems to push them to double down on their beliefs. I.e. “Oh, men are dying from suicide in droves? It must be their own fault for being toxic.” “Oh there’s a reverse wage gap in favor of women in their from ages 20-31? About time wome… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/02/22 05:17 AM |
| 5 | This Can’t Be Said EnoughI think one of the grand ironies of this is that men become extremely resentful regarding women and become depressed and are much less likely to be productive, while being required to take care of their emotional and physical needs constantly. I have a few female friends that let me cry it out and let me have my depressive spells without judgement, and I would move heaven and earth for them. Though they are very equality minded and wouldn’t even let me if I tried. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Why do people always assume we want to dismantle resources for women instead of add focus for male resources?Both men and women were involved in making those decisions. So clearly it’s not a gender issue, but more of a personality type that seek powerful positions issue. I worked for a campaign in college and bailed on that life when I realized I would have to sell my soul to get to a place where I could enact positive change, and I’m certainly not the only one. People with good hearts bail out of that field in droves. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/22 05:37 AM |
| 13 | Why do people always assume we want to dismantle resources for women instead of add focus for male resources?I always find this idea of patriarchy so funny. I feel like a lot of people in general are unable to identify that just about everything in the world has both an up and a downside. You can eat anything you want but you can be unhealthy, you can be hilarious but often people won’t take you seriously. Wisdom is being able to do the right thing at the right moment. It’s something you have to learn and cultivate over time. Men are a great number of the leaders and leadership positions yes, but those… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/01/22 06:48 PM |
| 15 | Thousands of redditors attack a male DV victim in response to the trending video of his victimization.Even when a party is bad, that does not mean they are condemned to being bad forever and are beyond redemption, nor does it mean they deserve to be shamed and abused by shit tons of people on the internet. Absolutely disgraceful. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/01/22 06:52 AM |
| 32 | Can't Deny It AnymoreIf you’re ever confused about how someone could say something like this so flippantly, it’s because they don’t think it’s harmful. Either that, or they believe the harm is warranted. Which is equally terrifying. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/01/22 07:49 AM |
| 4 | Complaining about not being treated equally whilst being treated equally- woman’s tweet to the AA. But the AA CEO’s response is even more concerning.I have to say something that’s been bothering me about this line of thinking. For all the complaining of how targeted these women say they are due to their gender and their perceived vulnerability, how many are actively taking steps to adequately defend themselves? I’ve known a lot of women in my lifetime. The number that take any sort of self defense courses, work out beyond the basic cardio with the purpose of being able to adequately defend themselves etc. is less than 1%. I’ve known one girl… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/01/22 12:56 AM |
| 3 | Wouldn’t addressing men’s issues have a profound impact and lessen the violence (both physical and sexual) that they perpetrate?Love this comment. Thank you. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/22 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Wouldn’t addressing men’s issues have a profound impact and lessen the violence (both physical and sexual) that they perpetrate?It’s understandable to be against communist states. I think that people on the left that display Soviet flags etc. are extremely misguided. But don’t mistake social safety nets and a general welfare state for a full blown communist dictatorship. There is a healthy equilibrium where social policies no capitalistic ones can coexist, like most of Western Europe. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/22 04:06 AM |
| 3 | Wouldn’t addressing men’s issues have a profound impact and lessen the violence (both physical and sexual) that they perpetrate?This is insane. Completely fucks with a lot of the narratives about male perpetrated violence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/22 02:32 AM |
| 5 | Wouldn’t addressing men’s issues have a profound impact and lessen the violence (both physical and sexual) that they perpetrate?I wasn’t talking about incels, but violence in general. But I wholeheartedly agree with you in regards to how incels are painted. It’s quite despicable. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/01/22 02:12 AM |
| 65 | Wouldn’t addressing men’s issues have a profound impact and lessen the violence (both physical and sexual) that they perpetrate?Ironic, considering addressing it would help reduce violence against women drastically. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/01/22 03:10 AM |
| 15 | Do you think men’s tendency to hide their negative emotions and struggles in life(to not bother other people) adds to the perception that men have no problems in life?This is fascinating and I agree with this quite a bit. Though one factor I would like to add is that, from my experience both personally, and observing others is that men are often punished for showing their struggles. I’ve had my own parents get quite upset at me for literally being in physical pain and expressing as much. Even as a young lad. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/12/21 02:58 PM |
| 5 | Conservative man complains about everything - 21 StudiosWoke identity politics. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/12/21 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Faux-Intellectual Feminism hides the fact that the ideology is their religion.Funny you mention it: I’m a poli sci major and an advocate of horse shoe theory. (In so far as you can be for a theory I guess?) Though I also think the spectrums we use to describe the types of thought are woefully inadequate at capturing the depth of complexity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/12/21 07:39 AM |
| 6 | Faux-Intellectual Feminism hides the fact that the ideology is their religion.This is fascinating. It makes me feel slightly vindicated. My experience has always been that the women in my life have been much more avid about their religious beliefs/abortion etc. Always been confused when conversations about abortion refer to specifically “only men wanting to control womens bodies.” | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/21 06:09 AM |
| 6 | Faux-Intellectual Feminism hides the fact that the ideology is their religion.It would be easy to ignore if it was isolated to TikTok. I see this everywhere. Real life included. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/12/21 02:52 AM |
| 7 | Faux-Intellectual Feminism hides the fact that the ideology is their religion.I’ve dated multiple people like this. And my mother is like this. Dealing with people in close relationships like this is utterly soul crushing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/21 11:25 PM |
| 9 | Faux-Intellectual Feminism hides the fact that the ideology is their religion.I’ve met, and dated, way too many of these types. It’s honestly soul crushing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/21 11:18 PM |
| 14 | Faux-Intellectual Feminism hides the fact that the ideology is their religion.Nor does she give citations for her assertions against man/for women. And zero context as you said. Completely pseudo-intellectualism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/21 07:03 PM |
| 24 | Faux-Intellectual Feminism hides the fact that the ideology is their religion.Absolutely a larger phenomenon. Just look at all the “research” showing how many issues women have comparatively. The twisting of every societal issue to show it’s tougher on women. The demonization of men in general. If you question it you’re not just an asshole you’re an uneducated, science-denying asshole. Academia playing into it is certainly part of the equation. Comes across like the intellectualization of misandry. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/12/21 06:02 PM |
| 6 | Banned from r/BeyondTheBumpI would say it’s everywhere in real life too. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/12/21 06:59 PM |
| 20 | Emotional labourI cannot stand the discussions around emotional labor. According to wikipedia emotional labor is fulfilling the emotional component of a job. I.e. Pretending to be happy listening to a customers shitty joke. Or pretending that you're not bothered by being dressed down by customers/management because you messed up. Being upset that your partner is not helping around the house is just... labor. And if they are unhappy about their partners contributions around the house they certainly aren't puttin… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/11/21 03:32 PM |
| 6 | #MenAreGrossBecauseI understand why it’s healthy to avoid social media, but I just don’t agree with this in the slightest. My entire life (at 30) I’ve seen women in real life saying men are disgusting. From children to grown adults you mention the idea of seeing a guy they know being naked and a good portion of them well just go “ewwww”. Not to mention that these people exist in real life too. Yeah twitter is a cesspool, but I’ve had to deal with people like this at an increasing rate over my lifetime. Most of who… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/11/21 02:30 PM |
| 9 | What are the sexist things your significant others have said/done?I’ve dealt with this a number of times. Seems to be fairly common. The biggest issue with it is being labeled sexist for calling out the hypocrisy or standing up for yourself. It’s partly cultural and a lot of women have that entitled attitude. But I always get frustrated with men who enable that shit. If men were as consistent as women were at holding women to certain standards I think a lot would change. Unfortunately romantic and physical intimacy are so rare for a lot of dudes, combined with… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/21 11:07 PM |
| 5 | What are the sexist things your significant others have said/done?Jesus. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/21 10:51 PM |
| 3 | What are the sexist things your significant others have said/done?This is atrocious. I’m incredibly sorry you had to go through this. I’ve been through similar stuff. I was an incredibly emotionally abusive relationship for about a year, and 6 years later it still bothers the hell out of me. I still wince abd ny heart races whenever something feels like it could lead to an argument. I was called a cunt so many times I just became comfortable with the word. There were times when I didn’t even recognize myself as I got sucked into that dynamic. If you ever need … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/21 10:51 PM |
| 14 | Nancy Pelosi Warns Women Are More Exposed To Negative Impact Of Climate ChangeI hate to say it, but I feel as though a lot of men aren’t full human beings in the eyes of a lot of the world. Just imagine if the Uyghur genocide in China was all of one gender and what the reaction would be, and contrast the different reactions. In that I think we have our answer. And it’s not a pretty one. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/21 04:58 AM |
| 9 | “Men are killed… by other men”I agree. I may have made a mistake in my writing because that’s what I was inferring. I do feel that there is something wrong with the “only men can hold men accountable. And women other women.” attitude. I don’t need to have a vagina to recognize when a female friend is doing something fucked up. But that may be an entirely different conversation. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/21 12:21 PM |
| 19 | “Men are killed… by other men”I do partly agree with you. But at a certain point as a society we all also need to be responsible for each other as well. Everyone needs to take a good long look at themselves and help each other with all this. There is no excuse to let abuse in a person to fester to the degree that they become a serial killer. Just as there is no excuse to let mental health issues fester until they feel compelled to commit suicide. The sad part is we recognize that as a collective for a lot of issues involving… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/21 06:59 AM |
| 16 | Virgin shaming as a mechanism of forcing the conformity of men.This whole idea of virgin shaming really seems to play off the whole “believe women”/“the woman is always right” dynamic to me. It perceives that the woman’s desires in a partner are “correct”, almost as if they are infallible. It’s never possible for a woman to have poor taste or expectations, and if the guy is not getting women interested him it’s only ever an indicator of his shortcomings. It reminds of the phrase “well if everyone you meet is an asshole, you’re the asshole.” In these context… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/21 01:40 AM |
| 3 | Disney is Back To Normalizing Violence Against Black Men for Laughs... I'm So Sick of thisMimi’s character at least defends herself. I would describe her more as a feuding character with the protagonist than a “punching bag”. Chevy chase in community, Howard from BBT, strike me as much more pure punching bag characters. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/11/21 06:53 PM |
| 2 | John Oliver, King of "x community is disproportionately affected" fails to mention men when talking about homelessnessIf he was more up front about being wrong and adjusted as he went that would be one thing. That’s something we collectively as a society need to be better at. But dodging responsibility when being wrong is incredibly disappointing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/21 10:15 PM |
| 6 | John Oliver, King of "x community is disproportionately affected" fails to mention men when talking about homelessnesshttps://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/05/john-oliver-not-a-journalist/amp | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/21 09:54 PM |
| 10 | John Oliver, King of "x community is disproportionately affected" fails to mention men when talking about homelessnessI do too. For the most part I love his show and everything they bring to light. I just don’t like when he, or people like him dodge criticism by going “I’m just a comedian”. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/21 09:17 PM |
| 18 | John Oliver, King of "x community is disproportionately affected" fails to mention men when talking about homelessnessIt may not claim to be but it wraps itself up in a package and advertises itself based on the idea that it portrays things factually. And more to the point people take their assertions seriously. Therefore they need to be held to the same scrutiny as any journalistic entity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 10/11/21 08:27 PM |
| 5 | Is gynocentrism a narcissistic pathology? Discussion of the stereotypical gynocentric behaviours encouraged in men by society and its affect of encouraging behaviour analogous to narcissism in women.Their empathy tends to strike me as narcissistic because they are only able to empathize with people like themselves. It always struck me in my personal life when I see it that it is like they saw other women as echos of themselves. As soon as that facade is broken they no longer feel empathy (see how they treat conservative women, for example). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/11/21 02:01 AM |
| 1 | I feel like gender discourse has only made my dysphoria worse.*“I hate admitting it but what the left sells as womanhood is very appealing. I know it’s a lie that women are more empathetic and altruistic than men but it feels like a definite improvement to be perceived in that framework. The difference in perception is a huge factor in my feelings, I think.” * I think by sorting through these types thoughts in a more nuanced way you may be able to help your mental health. All or nothing thinking is super common people with depressive tendencies, etc. Maybe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/11/21 03:50 PM |
| 2 | What I have learnt living with white women as a South Asian manOn an individual I agree with you. On a macro level, if “basic Gen-z white girls with nothing but trendy internet-fed thoughts” is the norm then we likely have a very big problem. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/10/21 06:21 PM |
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