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Of course, there's no guarantee, but she'll land a better guy at 25 than she will at 30 Tons of men are willing to slap a ring on it, just not the guy that most women chases I.E. badboys In an era of internet dating and tinder, women have infinite choice in men The problem is that most women are swiping to the same few male models on tinder while the nice guys that would comit to them never get a chance
/r/TheRedPill04/03/17 06:11 AM
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That's not what I'm saying at all Biological clock is real, don't blame me for it It skews the SMV of women to advantage the younger ones, men from ages 18-50 are going after a small pool of women 18-30, that's a ratio of 3 men per woman, it's fantastic odds for younger women, terrible for older ones. That's why power successful men are willing to marry young women with no prospects or money. When women get older, they are incapable of having healthy children. Until science can extend a woman's …
/r/TheRedPill04/03/17 05:39 AM
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Lonewolf's right, you were shaming her In addition it implies that you are not an attractive guy she fucks (so she has to fuck randoms) This is like anti-pre-selection, it seems like you might be friendzoned by her In fact, don't ever mention the guys your female friends bangs, let the girl wonder if you are casually sexing them.
/r/seduction04/03/17 05:31 AM
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But do keep in mind before feminism. Men were socialised to lead their house, and women were socialised to be submissive. Monogamy was enforced by the state. Girls were married off young. Where their father or brother finalised who they would marry (they would always pick dependable beta males). So even alpha males would have difficulty playing the field. Even though most guys were very beta, they had stable marriages and large families, and their wives stayed thin.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/17 12:04 AM
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Donald Trump is a notorious womanizer. Women are not what defines an alpha male Augustus was definitely not a ladiesman but we all agree he was an apex alpha
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 11:57 PM
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Wait 24 hr shifts? That's not what I think it sounds like right? And why do they need to work so long, what's wrong with just 40 hours?
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 10:59 PM
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You can use fake photos in online dating... hehe Day game/bar game is crucial for giving you confidence, game and conversation skills to actually engage women. If you have crappy game, you can have tons of online dates and still fuck them all up. In terms of skill acquired and rewards I would consider day game the best, but it is also the absolute hardest to do.
/r/seduction03/03/17 09:55 PM
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for a few years is issue here, girls are burning away their SMV in that time period. They would've locked down with a much higher status man if they married younger. So at 25 she could marry a quirky engineer, at 30 she would marry a janitor for example. Plus only 20% of men are alphas, the vast majorities of guys will screw up, fail shit tests etc So I think the best course of action is to find a responsible decent looking beta male with a good income (when women are still young). Because he is…
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 08:56 PM
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80h a week? How much do they get paid for that. A police officer would be well over 200k due to overtime Still not worth burning your life though
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 08:51 PM
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NO, women have a wall, and their SMV decrease with age (and cock count), no exceptions A girl at 20 doing a biology degree is vastly more attractive than she is at 25 in med school, who is in turn vastly more attractive than she is at 30 as a doctor. In short, the man she CAN marry at 20 is vastly better than the man she can land (settle) for at 30. In stocks you must sell when you are at a peak, not when it's crashing. Women need to get married in their peak (20). The optimal path a female doct…
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 08:47 PM
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Women do shack up with younger beta males (many of whom have lower income) In this case she wants someone with a high income, 6', and alpha, who would have way too many options to consider a 31 year old. In "Match Point", the main character (Alpha psychopath with no money) marries an aging woman with a super rich dad for the money
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 08:31 PM
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I always thought it's always around 20% of males are alphas. The majority of men are followers Pre-feminism girls were married off young, many by arranged marriages. Men were told they ruled their house, girls were trained to obey. This meant men APPEARED more dominant, even if they were overwhelmingly beta. Wives felt submissive, because that's how everyone was socialised as children. Since girls were locked young, there were very few available women riding the CC, in addition monogamy was enfo…
/r/TheRedPill03/03/17 06:29 PM
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It depends on what TYPE of intelligence, girls have no interest in quantum physics or computer science (Sheldon Cooper or Doc Brown). They do however love Machiavellian intelligence (James Bond, Oceans 11, Bart Simpson). Or dominance intelligence (Tywin Lannister, M, or Caesar) I find most smart guys have good understanding of computers and engineering, but lack true out of the box thinking that men like Caesar would have. With that being said, IQ above 120 is considered bad when it comes to mee…
/r/seduction03/03/17 04:55 PM
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If you have no games whatsoever most girls will just friend zone you. You actually need to practice talking to girls, IE cold approaching.
/r/seduction02/03/17 10:15 AM
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I still remember "A streetcar named desire", there was this total beta who Blanche wanted to lock down. She constantly hid her age from him, and he was quite smitten by her. But his mother (he's also a total mamma's boy) kept on telling him to watch out for her age, and he eventually had to refuse to marry her even though he did want her. Nowadays you get beta males marrying post-wall (fat) single mothers on the regular. Betas were so much more red pill just 60 years ago than now.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 06:45 PM
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Kayak's are awesome, but I think Canoe's are better, more flexible, safer and good with friends. Don't forget a special seat for your kayak, the default seats are painful for the back.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/17 06:09 PM
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Yeah good point, you let them know you've graduated when they ask, correct?
/r/seduction01/03/17 04:34 PM
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You should go to the mall to practice cold approach pick up, open older girls too. This will give you the skill and confidence to talk to girls better in school. But yes, hang out with a new group of guys, there is always guys that are interested in meeting girls, it's not hard to find them. Some are cool, some are nerdy, but as long as they are like minded it helps greatly.
/r/seduction01/03/17 03:40 PM
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You still need to cruise the bars to practice talking to girls. Otherwise, even if you meet some gamer chick, you'll still turn her off if you have no idea what to do
/r/seduction01/03/17 03:36 PM
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You join uni clubs even after you graduate?
/r/seduction01/03/17 03:50 AM
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Marc Antony was the definition of a ZFG, eternal bachelor freeman that lived as he wanted. And he had tons of children. Augustus only had one kid though despite all his power
/r/TheRedPill28/02/17 10:48 PM
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Women entrepreneurship is not the same as male entrepreneurship, for women it's more about staying home running a (low stress) business and raising the kids. Certainly better than them burning out their reproductive years working for corporate slavehood, and being miserable harpies. More STEM means less women studies feminazis, Trump always thinks 4 steps ahead.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/17 10:31 PM
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"sure, no problem, another time" destroys suspense, and proves you are still interested. It is also a PULL, when you need to be pushing back (her flaking on you is a push) Suspense and aloofness are important, she needs to wonder if you will see her again No response works Or a pushing response "k, you owe me one" is viable, you are challenging her, but you are not showing investment "K, you'll buy drinks next time" seems reasonable, except you break the first rule, suspense
/r/seduction28/02/17 10:16 PM
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It's out right creepy, plus you are pulling on her for no reason. "I can't get along with Irish girls" is a much better line, and it's a tease
/r/seduction28/02/17 10:12 PM
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"Oh I see how it is. You don't wanna hang with me." Is a terrible response. You are declaring low value, and extreme neediness. Don't worry about it too much, only 20% of men are alphas, the vast majority have insecurities, pettiness, fear etc
/r/seduction28/02/17 10:09 PM
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Good point, girls are not going to bitch about her problems to a guy she finds attractive.
/r/seduction28/02/17 04:58 AM
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I doubt she'll call you out on it, but I'd just ignore it.
/r/seduction28/02/17 04:44 AM
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I don't bother gauging IOI's at parties I just grab their hands and see how they react. "Offending" a girl is a weird concept. Some times it causes her to be totally attracted to you, other times it'll push her away. I remember telling feminists that their ideology is stupid and they need to cook more, and it caused them to light up. The trick is to keep it half-serious and emotional (no logical arguments) Guys are a bit different, generally speaking, avoid telling cool stories in front of (beta…
/r/seduction28/02/17 04:40 AM
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DON'T talk about bagels I guess I'm the minority opinion here
/r/seduction28/02/17 04:24 AM
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Don't go into much details, but you can use them as wingwomen if you want.
/r/seduction28/02/17 04:23 AM
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Good point you make there, would you say girls would avoid sharing so much with men they are attracted to? As in, they will be more cold or distant towards alpha males?
/r/seduction28/02/17 04:22 AM
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It's called being high status, alpha males don't reply to women all the time. More importantly girls don't reply all the time. It's always better to be too much of an asshole than to be too nice. Plus if you want to be polite, you would call her
/r/seduction28/02/17 04:17 AM
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On cold approaching, you CAN cold approach, provided you have flawless game, it's a catch 22. And this only really applies if you just moved there. The risk here is that even with good game, it's easy to make a mistake. And social circles simply make much more sense. Plus since you are terrified of making a mistake, your confidence will drop, further raising your chance of fucking up, another catch-22. It's similar how you can approach in a (small) high school, just don't screw up.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 10:29 PM
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The thing is, fat chicks CAN get these guys on Tinder at least for casual fuck. Funny enough, I once met a (recently) married young couple. He was 6'2", good looking, had money, loves children. She was a fat whale, and a total shrew. I was persuading him he should consider having a big family. And she butt in the convo talking about there is no way in hell she will "pump out so many kids". I originally though she'd at least have a good loving personality...
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 09:05 PM
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Meaning they would have to settle for someone less exciting, shorter, less sexy and less interesting than they are used to. A boring beta male that will commit is a realistic prospect. To be fair, most beta males are not ugly or poor, they are good long term prospects. And they'll change the diapers and provide income. Granted a lot of women don't grow out of this delusion. That's why you have 40 year old childless women at bars hoping some investment banker will sweep them off their feet.
/r/TheRedPill27/02/17 08:51 PM
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Back when I was a uninteresting person with poor game, crappy job, atrocious style and no achievements I actually thought I was a big shot. And I still got hot chicks. This is called irrational over confidence Granted I am a genuine badass now. Honestly you need to break a few rules, that'll change your mindset. The same irrational over confidence that got me chicks I should not have caused me to do all sorts of crazy shit that made me cool.
/r/seduction26/02/17 02:58 PM
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She DID kiss you, Not every girl is going to shove her tongue when you kiss her. And clearly the tease didn't diffuse anything and just pissed her off After you kissed her, just take her home and do whatever the fuck you wanted
/r/seduction26/02/17 11:46 AM
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Women drop SMV as they age. They have to settle, if they didn't hook the alpha provider at 20, she has zero chance of hooking 1 at 30. Real life isn't sex and the city. I would assume women overall become less attracted to alphas as they age. I do recall this 29 y/o model I dated. Despite being pretty shitty at life, she was very realistic about her options of long term commitment. She ended finding someone willing to LTR her and she jumped on it. No idea if she's married by now but I wish her b…
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 04:49 PM
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It's interesting, because you are essentially a high SMV Chad when you live in a place like Thailand. You become the high status guy that every girl wants to date, even though the same guy could be a beta AFC back in the states.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 12:08 PM
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Females have no fucking reason to love you. The lioness just falls in line when the new lion defeats/kills the older one. Same as primates Guess what, humans are primates Their biological clock also forces them to quickly find new mates if they are widowed.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 05:03 AM
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Absolutely avoid story telling. Many beta males will feel absolutely butt hurt when you tell them crazy shit. And for the love of God don't tell them the women you've fucked. So many butt hurt beta males Alpha males are generally better, because they usually love to hear crazy shit you've done. Also picking up chicks together is great for male bonding.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 05:00 AM
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She's pushing 40, plus with the CC (and drinking) I'd assume she looks very old. But then again, she can cover herself with makeup and look younger right?
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 04:51 AM
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Honestly you guys should visit Thailand/Vietnam etc. Girls are dead easy to pick up due to your vastly higher SMV (at least as dates). And if you screw up at that, you can find cheap hookers.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 04:45 AM
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If your GF wants more in bed, invite another GIRL (or 2 extra girls hehe). What's with all these losers doing MMF. Most chicks are down with MFF.
/r/TheRedPill25/02/17 04:42 AM
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No idea, you can try to reinitiate
/r/seduction25/02/17 04:33 AM
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Girls are friendlier at universities and you get more numbers. But they are much more flaky. But this depends on your college. Major universities are the flakiest I find.
/r/seduction25/02/17 04:25 AM
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Dead numbers are very common. In cold approach the girl has to really like you AND feel comfortable with you before she will see you again, remember you are a stranger. Whereas in social circles you have more leeway. In short, your game needs to be perfect. lets look at your 4. 1) She's taken, and mentioned it to you. She doesn't have enough attraction, or familiarity with you to cheat 2) She seems disinterested, I don't think girls play "push-pull" games, they tease as shit tests, but they don'…
/r/seduction25/02/17 04:22 AM
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Just lose your fucking weight. A short guy can't get taller, an ugly guy can't get a better face. But a fatass can lose his weight.
/r/seduction25/02/17 04:10 AM
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She is in her late 20's and she goes to music festivals. I would assume she is quite experienced with men. I would go for a kiss as long as you have some degree of privacy from your friends
/r/seduction25/02/17 04:08 AM
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Just make a fucking move
/r/seduction25/02/17 04:04 AM
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Also being good at cold approaching naturally makes you better at dealing with girls in social circles.
/r/seduction25/02/17 04:02 AM
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Why would you tease/push a girl right after you kissed her? She has complied to your frame and you punished her for it. That's being the wrong kind of asshole (punishing good behavior). My friend used to do this, constantly punishing her for good behaviour and rewarding bad ones I'm not trying to sound like a condescending asshole here, but you fucked up. And yes, this girl was ready to fuck you that night until you screwed it up Also you don't tell a girl her blowjob sucked after you cum in her…
/r/seduction24/02/17 07:09 PM
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Chad does not fuck whoever he wants, because not every girl will fuck him. High SMV means more women, not all of them. Look at Khal Drogo on GoT, high SMV alpha chad, but he commits rape just because he feels like it. Even Dicaprio got dumped once, that doesn't make him a beta male. Not to mention vikings, huns, legions, and barbarians etc are all alphas and they committed rape on an industrial scale. Women love legionaries, but they still raped. Unless you are meaning to tell me that all the ra…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 03:21 PM
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Don't take what she says at face value. She might say she just wants to meet as friends, but she might still be sexually attracted. Meet up again and escalate
/r/seduction24/02/17 03:01 PM
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Aggressive beta is an oxymoron, aggression is an alpha trait, betas are passive. Genghis Khan doesn't bother with "attracting" women cause he just doesn't give a fuck. He fucks whoever he wanted with or without consent. If he ran into a smart mouthed "Chad Thundercock", he'd just kill him. He bend the world to his will in which consent, attraction, and seduction were irrelevant to his goals. That is the definition of alpha Why does the master of the world need to care if he was "sexually attract…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 04:39 AM
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IDGAF can apply to things other than women. Buildering, sneaking into concerts, reckless rule bending are the tenants of IDGAF. Even then IDGAF attitude or irrational overconfidence will greatly help with girls. If you are some average looking dude with no money or social skills and you ask out the HB10, she'll start to wonder who the fuck you are and assume your value is higher than it actually is. If she tells her friends, then they'll assume you frequently bed 10's which is why you had the au…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 03:49 AM
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Well there are beta nice guys with female friend groups. Do they generate pre-selection for them?
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 03:35 AM
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Don't forget if you are "alpha value" (maybe she is an orbiter). She might ghost you once she hits an LTR (or fuck you regardless, which can trigger more problems). Not a true friendship
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 03:34 AM
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So you would consider Genghis Khan to be a "beta"? The most violent person ever
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 03:08 AM
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What would Genghis Khan, or Atilla do if you were flirting with his girl? Or Scarface? Recklessness, aggression, dominance are alpha traits Many rapists are ultra alpha males, they don't give a fuck about anything and that includes the law. Genghis Khan is the most notorious rapist in history This is the red pill, we are suppose to see men (alphas and betas) for what they ARE, not some idealized version, that's blue pill With regards to killing, you think Caesar, Napoleon, Charlemagne, Leonidas,…
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 03:05 AM
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And there are girls who do end up with alpha provider types. Granted these women are usually very young and the alpha's are a bit older. Alphas win in the end, and always
/r/TheRedPill24/02/17 02:59 AM
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I have only heard one girl ever claim a guy could be too tall (she considers 6'4" to be too much). Height is probably the greatest advantage you could ever have when it comes to getting women. I'm just trying to picture a girl rejecting a 6' guy for being too tall. But then I see a short little guy walking around with a 10 and admire him.
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:21 AM
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Liberal dating -Feminist dating techniques -Asking her for permission -Hates children -Bend over when attacked, won't protect family -Say sorry for being a white male -Cuck
/r/seduction23/02/17 04:18 PM
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Only if you are far right fringe. Then only with super strong frame. Don't talk about your anarcho syndicalist communue (if you are a leftist) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:11 PM
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Shut the fuck up and start listening
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:04 PM
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Most women you talk to during daygame are going to be taken no matter where you are. Just go, Portugal is certainly not more conservative than the US.
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:01 PM
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I know an Asian guy at 5'4" that's been with over 100 chicks. Girls literally recoil when they see his short height. Plus male height is far more important than looks, this is coming from someone that's tall.
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:11 AM
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Beware it could be a shit test. Another trick is to tell her to ask you a question(s), essentially putting the onus on her and forcing her to chase.
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:06 AM
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I don't understand how people can delete their facebook, how do you communicate with old friends that you have not seen for a while? Phone's get lost, numbers get changed, people move. Facebook let's you message and meet up with people you have not seen for years.
/r/seduction23/02/17 05:03 AM
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Even if she does, that will just cause all her friends to react to you. They'll see you asked out their hot friend. This will give you an advantage. I've been through this, the low-key below the radar approach just doesn't work
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:34 AM
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When her friends are not around, ask her out. This will make her react. Also qualify her always If her friends are around, qualify her.
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:28 AM
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Before PUA started, the only guys who cold approached in the day time were guys with strong game/alphas. Basically all these pick up companies told guys they should open where ever and market it as a product. I can't speak for everyone, but look at all the guys who get complaints or kicked out of malls, clearly some people are being affected negatively by it. I do think guys should start at bars and parties a bit, just fail a bunch of times in an environment where they won't be punished for it.
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:23 AM
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Because women who are just out shopping or walking around are not looking to get approached or bothered. Now, when an attractive man with good game opens her, she feels fantastic and excited. But when weirdos with shitty game and social skills, bad eye contact, posture and calibrations opens her, and possibly multiple times a day she is NOT okay with it. https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/3h4v3f/chinese_pick_up_artists_at_eaton_centre/ Not to mention this ruins it for the rest of us when …
/r/seduction22/02/17 10:14 PM
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The problem with daygame meetups is that it attracts a good amount of guys with shitty game that legitimately creeps girls out. These guys get banned from malls and stuff, I've heard of a bookstore that kicks out PUA's. This is the advantage of night game, people are okay with guys approaching girls. But dating counselling would be a good euphemism. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a-swarm-of-pick-up-artists-tried-to-invade-torontos-eaton-centre
/r/seduction22/02/17 07:53 PM
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High school is the absolute easiest time to hook hot girls, due to the way age laws and culture works. I'd do anything to do over my youth again. I will be telling my sons just how important (and easy) high school dating is. Cold approach at the mall, this will build up your confidence and skills. Which allow you to hook girls at school. Once you get past 18, it gets harder and harder. Doing well in high school greatly affects your social skills and confidence in college. Being the awkward virgi…
/r/seduction21/02/17 08:15 PM
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I have a different outlook on it, I think white guys will keep their advantage until, like forever. Off topic, but I remember when I was 18, I saw an Asian dude with a good looking brunette, and I said to my friends. "That brother's got game" Cause it was so rare to see one
/r/seduction21/02/17 03:40 AM
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"Happy birthday, nerd" you are pushing and pulling at the same time
/r/seduction21/02/17 02:26 AM
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5'3", holy shit, well there is this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrgYS-EQFNc He's about 5'3"
/r/seduction20/02/17 08:13 PM
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Why not?
/r/seduction20/02/17 08:10 PM
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When I first started cold opening on campus, I was getting numbers nonstop, but all of them went nowhere. After about 6 months of that, my game sky rocketed and I was getting dates constantly. You game and confidence are just not that good at the moment.
/r/seduction20/02/17 08:08 PM
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http://asianphoenix.com/ His site
/r/seduction20/02/17 06:06 PM
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Just listen, let them do that talking.
/r/seduction20/02/17 05:56 PM
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I know an Asian guy, at 5'4". He's the greatest player on earth, he's been with over 100 girls, and women worship him. He actually started his own site, a total legend. He was also a total beta male in his youth, his father was a submissive beta male. When he started pick up he creep out hundreds of girls, and got like zero numbers. So he's definitely not a natural playboy.
/r/seduction20/02/17 05:54 PM
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Godfrey Gao is a tall good looking man, does he really have problem with the ladies? I guess I just had a different experience than you. When I was a kid I was the shortest, super skinny Asian, and I was still getting far more attention from (white) girls than I had any reason to. And I live in a major liberal cesspool city. White guys do have a massive advantage though. But all girls Asian, Latinas, Indian etc like, if not outright prefer white guys, you can't tell me they are racist against th…
/r/seduction20/02/17 05:52 PM
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Irrelevant, I tried this everywhere, on opening, it's 100% your tonality, loudness, eye contact etc. Girls will open 99% of the time if you do it well.
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:52 PM
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At night time, it doesn't matter, the issue here is loudness, assertiveness and dominance. "Oh My God, that's a nice dress"
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:44 PM
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At night time, you need to be loud and have very high energy when you open. Yell "Oh my God" at them and then run your opener, try that. Or act like a drill instructor, yell to the girl "who the fuck are you" The key here is being loud
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:25 PM
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Ignore it, don't think about it, don't talk about it
/r/seduction20/02/17 12:59 PM
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Fair enough, you listed this girl as not wanting you to touch her, is it just her? Or do other girls have a problem as well?
/r/seduction20/02/17 05:00 AM
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Oh, it's definitely possible, and far more common than you think
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:52 AM
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"lol"
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:51 AM
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Your text game itself is pretty sweet. But you are overgaming From what I'm reading from your conversation, I can assume 4 things You have no other girls you are messaging/hanging with You are thinking about her always You really like her You are scared of asking her out I could be dead wrong in my assumptions, but she could assume these things too, and that is low value.
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:43 AM
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You can always go to a local university to take a look on your spare time, join a college ballroom dance club even.
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:34 AM
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I disagree, like I said they are hit on guys at the highest rank and value. She don't need to give the average Asian dude a chance because she doesn't have to. When a taller white man with better game has just talked to her, the other guy doesn't even register. Nobody is obligated to sleep with you. You have to look at things from her perspective. And I hate to say it, white guys on average have the best game, mindsets, beliefs they also tend to be tallest and better looking. Now, I realise that…
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:31 AM
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How were you meeting girls back in college, and can you replicated now? At 24, you are still young
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:19 AM
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Several things to keep in mind here She met you at your fraternity, plus invites you to bars, she's gorgeous -> she's a party girl that has tons of guys hitting on her and taking her number. You are not the only horse in this race Other guys have snap chatted her too (how many do you think?) Attempting to "play it cool" can work, for like two days. But every other week, she's at a different party, and a new pool of guys are hitting on her, snapping, texting her etc Never take what a girl tells y…
/r/seduction20/02/17 04:01 AM
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I don't want to sound harsh, but I'll say it here She feels uncomfortable because she is not attracted, does not respect you, and/or you are creeping her out, but that's it. There are times where girls will let a (stranger) play with their boobs/butt, legs, hair etc. Just because she feels enough attraction, respect, and at ease enough with him. And this includes girls who are in relationships. Your problem is your conversation/eye contact/posture. Simply put that girl does not respect you or so…
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:27 AM
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I think the stigma is a false observation In my experience white chicks are just harder to pick up. They screen the hardest, throw the most shit tests, harshest rejections, have the highest requirements, flake the most, and the least likely to accept a dance at a party/club. White chicks are also extremely dominant/alpha, and tall, making it difficult for many guys to court them. It's far easier for my tall white friend to pick up an indian/asian/black girl than any white chick. The reason is th…
/r/seduction20/02/17 03:07 AM
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Fucking for weed? Who the hell does that, weed is not that expensive.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 04:41 PM
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The issue here is that women have a biological clock, so women SHOULD be growing up and settling when they are young. In fact people partied far more since feminism has occurred. Pre-feminism women got married really young. And hook up culture, 20/80 did not occur. Men can play the field as long as they want of course, provided there are enough women out there hooking up and riding the CC
/r/TheRedPill18/02/17 04:32 PM
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After you grab them, why not?
/r/seduction18/02/17 04:16 PM
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You can compliment her personality, achievements etc
/r/seduction18/02/17 04:12 PM
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Yes, just do it, fortune favours the bold
/r/seduction17/02/17 05:46 AM
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She's a tinder girl playing pool with you, of course she'll be positive. Even if she had a fun time, needy low status behaviour will still turn her off or get you friendzoned. But she did respond, so hopefully she's still interested
/r/seduction17/02/17 03:41 AM
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The sleazy grabbing her butt/tits within 10 minutes stuff work better. Being a "gentlemen" doesn't work Your problem was improper bonding in your conversations
/r/seduction17/02/17 03:33 AM
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Shut up and start listening Listening is better than talking, be the quiet guy for now
/r/seduction17/02/17 03:12 AM
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She did a push when she failed to reply Then you pulled her again with your second text You rewarded her bad behaviour, don't be so needy. Also don't just say "looking forward for a second date", where is her suspense, where is the challenge? The fact that this is on Tinder also means she is dating around guys constantly, stop being so nice
/r/seduction17/02/17 03:06 AM
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Simple pick forums, or forums of any pua site, Craigslist, www.wingman-pua.com, etc which city are you at? I got a few pretty close friends from these meet ups They're great cause most dudes don't want to, or outright hate the idea of cold approaching, so many people go to these sites to find guys who are willing to try
/r/seduction16/02/17 02:18 AM
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She wants to hook up. You dating her friend raised your pre-selection. Her mentioning your ex is just her example of token resistance, or "playing games", it's irrelevant
/r/seduction16/02/17 01:44 AM
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You can also use online sites where people are looking for wingmen. Picking up chicks together is definitely a great way to bond
/r/seduction15/02/17 10:10 PM
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Same here, my game has been fairly crappy for the past year, a far drop from my peak a few years back. It just happens, cold open more to break through
/r/seduction15/02/17 09:23 PM
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Fantastic, I think it's because most students of game are the nice guy beta males, as such pick up teaches them to be more alpha (they usually still won't be as alpha as they should) It would be pretty rare for alpha males to want to learn game especially if they are only 20% of pop, and less that 5% of that group might have issues with women. That would be a market of like 1% of men. Also an alpha can be nice, while a beta can't be an asshole
/r/TheRedPill14/02/17 06:42 PM
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"enough"
/r/seduction13/02/17 11:51 PM
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Complete falsehood, females are on a completely different spectrum as males. Everything from their hormones, cycles, emotions, status, IQ, biology etc. It's much harder is because most dudes would at least try to befriend you, while chicks have no intention of moving your interaction forward. They can wait and do nothing, and that's exactly what they do.
/r/seduction13/02/17 11:50 PM
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I know of short ugly pussies with zero game, charisma and confidence that are dating 9's. These guys should of been 40 year old virgins by all intents and purposes, yet they are dating girls even football players would be jealous of. I can link FB images as proof. One guy took 6 months to go for a girls hand, it's pathetic. You have heard of the 80/20 rule, where 80% of women want 20% of men? That also leads to 20% of women being attracted to 80% of men. The fallacy of course is that these girls…
/r/seduction13/02/17 11:46 PM
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I know of a guy that didn't go for a girl's hand until 6 months into "dating" her, a total pussy, she was a 9 at least. He was 6 or lower If you think only alphas or attractive guys are getting laid with hot chicks then you haven't seen shit. I've known enough low status unattractive beta males with zero game, zero charisma, zero confidence who by all means should be incel date pretty girls
/r/TheRedPill13/02/17 03:48 AM
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There we go, she is a waitress at a bar, she talks to HUNDREDS of guys per day. Every shift she could have any number of guys asking for her number. At least some of these guys will be attractive high status types (athlete, rich, good looking, etc). And that's every shift Either you make a move or get out, from your description I doubt she is interested. Just from the time you replied to me is another guy that asked her out. And if she's does not have a BF, then she's either dating or hooking up…
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:04 PM
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She works at a bar over the weekend. So she is a waitress at the bar?
/r/seduction12/02/17 12:01 PM
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I like Excalibur cause all the women in it are POS. While most movies pedalize women
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 02:18 AM
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Well, there are attractive alpha males that do value monogamy and don't sleep around Umm, Mike Pence? Most famous alpha leaders have had mistresses, or serial philanderers We need to compile a list of high power alphas that were faithful, cause I got no one else, even ultra disciplined guys like Bruce Lee had an affair AFAIK
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 02:08 AM
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Wait married twice? How does that work?
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 01:37 AM
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Look at postures in the photo, leaning into her as she's leaning back, his awkward beta smile, hand in pocket, physically scrunching in No, he's not banging her, you can't fake that
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 01:04 AM
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The bibles is as red pill as it gets. What's the punishment of a married woman adultery?
/r/TheRedPill12/02/17 12:33 AM
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She works at a bar, she is surrounded by guys that hit on her every single day. Ask her out, or leave, even IF she likes you, you are just one of hundreds of men she sees every day.
/r/seduction12/02/17 12:15 AM
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The substext is age She is now years older and her attractiveness has dropped While yours have gotten better due to self improvement It's the men vs women age dynamic at play here
/r/seduction12/02/17 12:09 AM
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I meant IF she did want to fuck you, she would of made sure you were at the party. She's basically inviting all the popular guys she wants to fuck I'm forwarding to "The red pill"
/r/seduction11/02/17 11:28 PM
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Even King Arthur had this moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipSZn5qcJds Look, don't take it personally, she's controlling the situation inviting her friends (popular guys she wants to fuck). He's the victim here If she wanted to fuck you, she would of made sure you got invited BTW, I want to forward your story to a different subreddit, is that okay?
/r/seduction11/02/17 11:05 PM
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Women have no respect for boy's that are their bitches, they get cheated on. That's why the ex is showing up, I'm assuming her ex is slighlty assholeish cocky guy she is still attracted to. I would tell your friend to kick that guy of his party immediately, she'll throw a fit, but she'll respect him growing a backbone. Think about it, he's basically inviting HER friends instead of his own. She's using him to host a party for guys she likes, while kicking out all his friends
/r/seduction11/02/17 11:02 PM
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A life lesson here kid, GF/wife hanging out with her ex is really really bad (or "distant friends") Don't let it happen, ever. The thought that your friend could be paying for his drinks inviting him to HIS house to get cheated on is disgusting. His extreme beta behaviour is just going to push her away and make her resent him more. He needed to put his foot down and invite you, and kick out the ex. Plus he's placed in a position where you (and his most trusted friends) are not there to support h…
/r/seduction11/02/17 10:53 PM
1

"your iris have a yellow ring around it, like an eclipse"
/r/seduction11/02/17 10:47 PM
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He invites his GF's ex? Is he asking to get cheated on?! She is walking all over him, it's his birthday, why does she have any say in who gets to come? And why would a guy invite his GF's ex to HIS birthday? Look, your friend is still in there, he is just pussy whipped because he is afraid of losing her. Unless you only friend alpha males, many of your friends will do this later in life, he won't be the last.
/r/seduction11/02/17 10:35 PM
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Some guys can talk about sex, some guys are uncomfortable talking about sex A friend of mine has a sky high sex drive and can talk about sex whenever and wherever, and it helps his game immensely. I'm more of a prude in that regard and can't really do it.
/r/seduction11/02/17 10:33 PM
1

Shit test "I agreed that I was being assertive and honest" 1) Seems like you were seeking approval with that response, 2) You were qualifying yourself 3) You fell into a trap of talking about yourself. Girls throw curveball questions and comments to throw you off the correct conversational path. At this point your focus was to arrange meeting up again, OR talking about her. You got distracted 4) You let her change and control the frame of the conversation With point 3, a friend described it as s…
/r/seduction11/02/17 10:14 PM
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Thanks for the input, But hold on, if these guys did not take you seriously wouldn't that imply they had higher SMV than you? And now you found someone with equal SMV and he's faithful to you. But good job on finding someone nice
/r/TheRedPill11/02/17 05:26 PM
2

Just on campus, one girl I approached even said "I heard about you! You are that guy who talks to girls" The best trick is to approach well, if you act like a creep people will treat you like one.
/r/seduction10/02/17 06:14 PM
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What, you don't like nice racks? ;) But you make a good point, the idea is more about her taste in music or venue rather than the venue.
/r/seduction10/02/17 04:38 PM
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White girls are by far the hardest to pick up. But this rule applies to all guys (including white guys). You have to bring your absolute A-game. I find white chicks throw the most shit-tests, most flakey, hardest to open, text the least, cock block more, offer the toughest dates. They are also the least likely to accept a dance at party I'm assuming it's because white girls are usually hit on by men of the highest SMV and game. Simply put, you are competing with the apex predators and it just ge…
/r/seduction10/02/17 04:24 AM
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I had a friend of mine get a reputation on his uni, a girl picked him up because of it. I got a bit of a reputation a few years back. No biggie, I was mentioned on a fb page, girls (who I opened) just laughed, no girl even linked my FB to it. As for the indian guy, http://brobible.com/college/article/ohio-state-facebook-reddit-campus-creeper/ A user purporting to be Sean popped into the comments from time to time to call various naysayers “feminists” and “sluts.” His frame, and self assurance is…
/r/seduction10/02/17 03:23 AM
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Many people do this (talking about the venue). But my gripe is that you are not talking about the girl. I always thought the base of the game is to have the girl speak about herself. Talking about the venue does the opposite. What's your take on talking about her vs talking about the venue/band etc vs talking about yourself?
/r/seduction10/02/17 03:07 AM
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Also, do you have a link to the feigning inexperience video?
/r/seduction10/02/17 03:04 AM
1

Famous alpha males: Caesar, Napoleon, Khan, Musashi, Trump, Bond, Antony Day to day life: Criminals/thugs/dealers, prison guards, police, spec ops, army instructors, biker gangs, fight instructors, extreme sports (like dangerous extreme), hockey, rugby Alpha traits: Dominance, recklessness, aggression, controlling, dangerous, daring, narcissists, rule breaking, leader Criminals are the best example of pure alphaness, as they have all the above traits. I know guys who drink, snort coke, steal shi…
/r/seduction10/02/17 02:31 AM
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Guess it shows that you don't need to be a super cold brooding James Bond type to get chicks. Actually he was a basically a nice guy the whole way through
/r/seduction10/02/17 01:17 AM
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17 girls in less than year, holy shit Haha, ask him, he seems like a super pro
/r/seduction09/02/17 11:45 PM
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I thought he was a bit awkward at times and complimenting her way too much. He also came off a bit goofy But he got laid, so he clearly did everything right. He also had the balls to open a girl on a phone and tell her to call back. Alpha as fuck
/r/seduction09/02/17 11:44 PM
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I can tell you are already talking about your self too much. Most guys do that
/r/seduction09/02/17 10:26 PM
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1) Is you talking about HER, 4) is you talking about yourself Talking about her is good, talking about yourself is bad "The person talking more is almost always the one of lower value." A person talking about them self is almost always qualifying them self. Don't believe me, pay attention the next time you are in a social settings are watch the guys talk. The single guys will blab on about themselves continuously when he is speaking to a girl
/r/seduction09/02/17 09:38 PM
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Statements are better than questions, BUT talking about her is still better than talking about yourself. When people wrote those books about "interview mode" it was because guys were asking dumb questions non-stop I guess it goes like this in terms of what you should do 1) Statements to get her to open 2) Questions about her 3) Talking about random things 4) Talking about yourself 5) Random, boring questions Keep certain things in mind 1) The person talking more is almost always the one of lower…
/r/seduction09/02/17 08:54 PM
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Highschool is the absolute easiest time to get (hot) chicks. My one regret was being a total chode. Game just gets harder as you get past that I would go to the mall (or even a college) to cold approach, the idea is to get you the confidence and practice you need to meet girls in school in a stranger based environment. Go to the mall, tell a girl she's cute, then ask for number, or flirt with her PRACTICE. Practice cold approaching at the mall so you get good game in school
/r/seduction09/02/17 06:23 PM
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A word of warning, asking a girl if she's taken can really piss some girls off. I got some feminists pissed off because I would ask girls that. At a university they can report you. No big deal but still annoying to deal with
/r/seduction09/02/17 06:16 PM
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I'm just listing what has worked, groups can be 2-10 girls Go up to the hottest one, tap her on the shoulder, be loud and ask for her name. Force your hand forward as a handshake. Even if she doesn't hear you, she sees your handshake and responds (don't let go of her hand) Ask her like one question after (where are you from? Or anything really) then ask her to dance. Alternatively the "creepy way" Go up to her and try to grind with her, it sounds stupid, but it works Large groups are hard, you n…
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:12 PM
1

You don't and you can't. I got that reputation at one point. I even got mentioned on the confession page. Big fucking deal, nobody cares
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:03 PM
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Try this: When you are talking to a girl, talk about her. And make her talk about herself. Then she'll awkwardly blather around and you will just listen.
/r/seduction09/02/17 05:00 PM
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It matters, but then I see a good looking blonde walking around with a short ugly dude and wonder how much money he has. Guess what, most men are not 6'+, you need to work with what you have. And any incel that claims face>height don't know shit about women. But that's another topic
/r/seduction09/02/17 04:54 PM
1

In my view being fake is irrelevant, pick up is about what WORKS.
/r/seduction09/02/17 04:47 PM
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Because it works, in fact it works much better than it should. Also it works for average/below average guys as well. This is from personal experience.
/r/seduction09/02/17 04:39 PM
1

No, because I had him show me the messages. I read them myself and found them to be fine. Like he wasn't sending anything cringy, and she seemed to be very interested. Anyway your probably right, he probably showed tons of scarcity mentality, and had a very approval seeking mentality.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/17 04:43 AM
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Fair enough, but the majority of guys are beta males. Including guys in relationships. Yes, some short nerdy dudes have great game and charisma. But certainly not the majority of them. I've also known plenty of short nerdy Asian dudes with ZERO, confidence, game, charisma or dominance that are in LTR's with good looking girls. You can't tell me you've never known low SMV beta/omegas with no charisma or confidence with decent looking girls.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/17 02:56 AM
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I've seen plenty of short nerdy Asian dudes with decent looking chicks. Unless your telling me they're all secret PUA alphas... I do agree if we are talking about fast moving pick ups at night clubs, no charisma and the girls just get bored. But these are dates we're talking about.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/17 02:25 AM
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