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Can they please ban TikTok already
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:35 AM
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It’s truly crazy to me how effective this propaganda has been. You all have literally convinced yourselves that the vast majority of women throughout history were oppressed and miserable, and only in the last fifty years have their lives become tolerable, and you don’t even realize how absurd that sounds. You want to know how I know it’s absurd? Because during the first-wave of feminism, and continuing to the present day, about half of women have opposed it. If women’s lives were so uniformly mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:57 PM
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Universal childcare is unfortunately necessary in our current society, but the goal should be to improve society in ways so that children can once again be raised by their families. I don’t want some $10/hr stranger raising my children, but unfortunately a lot of people don’t have a choice these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:52 PM
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Marriage and motherhood also make plenty of women very happy. Just because some loud feminists keep beating the drum that marriage/motherhood is some kind of heinous oppressive slavery doesn’t make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:49 PM
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Being used for sex doesn’t help with loneliness. Loneliness is about connection, not physical proximity to other people. You can be in a room filled with people everyday and still be terribly lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:45 PM
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What? It’s a fantasy world that people in relationships have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 06:43 PM
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So a modern Lysistrata?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:51 AM
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Bit extreme to not even allow them in your social sphere, no? They’re just men who have been on this rock for a few more revolutions around the Sun, you don’t need to fear them so much, they’re still human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 12:42 AM
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And yet most men still end up in relationships with women. People’s preferences don’t necessarily determine their reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:36 PM
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What evidence do you have that society “is rapidly moving toward polygamy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:05 PM
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You weren’t “assigned” anything. If you have XY chromosomes then you are a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 05:37 PM
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What does that mean? I have plenty of good things going on in my life, but that doesn’t change the fact that the only purpose of life is to create more life. Seriously, what other purpose is there? Your problem is that you seem to need your life to have some sort of “meaning,” so when you’re told that it has none, you automatically view that negatively and push back against it. But why is it negative? Why does your life need some sort of “meaning” beyond simply survival and reproduction? Literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:47 PM
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I’m sorry that basic biology makes you sad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 06:51 PM
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Most women today still want a loving partner and a family. The unhinged lunatics you see on TikTok do not represent the typical woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:20 PM
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I don’t think it, I know it. It’s a basic biological fact. There is no “meaning” to life. Life exists to create more life. That’s all it is and all it ever will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:19 PM
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Bringing new life into existence and raising that life into a functional, capable adult is far more meaningful than any career could ever be. “Careers” are literally just structured busywork designed to keep this dystopian society running while enriching those at the very top.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:17 PM
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Gotta love the confidence of the ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:21 PM
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It was the normal expectation for most women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:19 PM
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Your “challenging and rewarding job” is still most likely completely meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Nearly every modern career is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:49 PM
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You need to study more history and anthropology, because you’re just plain wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:47 PM
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Exactly this. Until the IR, fathers were self-employees and worked from home, either as fathers or craftsmen. The idea of leaving your house and family everyday to go be someone else’s slave for the day is a very new phenomenon in human history, and its negative effects are beyond obvious at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:46 PM
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That’s because you have a very superficial and childish view of history, where “the past” was just universally bad and filled with ceaseless struggle and suffering
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:45 PM
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The only purpose of life is to create more life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:44 PM
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For the vast majority of human history, to love and have a family was a completely normal expectation. Only in the past half-century or so has it changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:43 PM
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You nailed it with the last paragraph. Hobbies and a career can never replace the deep, meaningful connection and experience of having a loving, devoted partner and building a life and family together with them. I’m honestly kind of disturbed by the people on here who genuinely believe their career gives them some kind of “purpose” when they’re literally just a cog in a machine that cares not one iota for their wellbeing. They’ve been so thoroughly indoctrinated by our dystopian culture, it’s tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:42 PM
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Talk therapy can only do so much. This idea that if men would just go to therapy all their problems would he solved is so ridiculous. I was in therapy for over a decade and yet am still struggling with the same issues I was when I started. If there’s a problem that has no solution, talking about it incessantly isn’t going to solve the problem, and in some ways can make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:38 PM
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Men are providers and protectors, but those roles have been made almost entirely obsolete in the modern world. It’s not a surprise that more and more men are falling into despair and hopelessness when they are unable to fulfill their natural purpose in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:33 PM
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I got bad news for you bro, women aren’t a hive mind, and a guy who’s considered “so hot” by some women wouldn’t even get a second look by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:00 PM
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Taking care of yourself doesn’t mean having one specific body type. A swimmer has a very different body type from a powerlifter, yet both are fit and attractive to women. Some women will prefer the swimmer, some will prefer the powerlifter. There’s not one “ideal” body type that all women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:58 PM
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Now try making the same argument but not using the most extreme example you can think of
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:55 PM
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Women’s taste in men is just as diverse. In fact, I would argue that nowadays it’s more diverse than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:52 PM
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Arranged marriages exist today as well, and plenty of people are fine with continuing them. I would argue that arranged marriages are superior to modern dating if the goal is a healthy, stable lifelong relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:55 PM
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It does work for millions of people, and has for thousands of years
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:52 PM
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Most women have absolutely no idea what they want. I would argue that one of the reasons “the patriarchy” developed was because female indecision is socially destabilizing. Men are generally much better at making decisions and sticking to those decisions, and both families and societies are much more stable when the decision-makers are predictable and consistent with their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:17 PM
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How else should I describe the terminally-online men who constantly whine and complain and play the victim and refuse to work on themselves and make up nonsensical stories about the boogeyman Chad who monopolizes all the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 05:51 PM
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Of course it is, but it’s a matter of degrees. Being good at a hobby is not going to excite a woman in the same way as a man returning from a hunt or battle would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 03:48 PM
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Weak men will do anything to avoid accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 03:44 PM
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It’s because most guys on here are looking for justification for giving up. Why put in any effort to improve yourself when instead you can just go on Reddit and whine and cry about how unless you’re 6’4” and stunningly handsome women will spit on you if you try to talk to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:45 PM
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But most guys are average, and thus how they act greatly determines how they will be perceived by others
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:36 PM
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We let the weak men run the show for a couple generations and look at the mess they made
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:11 AM
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Two people who were married for a decade decided to get divorced and you take this to mean that women will “quickly” lose interest if you’re not an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:09 AM
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This is what most people fail to understand. The reason that so many women seem to have no interest in men these days is because most men these days aren’t masculine enough. It’s not their fault, as modern society has few outlets for men to engage in traditionally masculine behaviors, but it is a major problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:41 PM
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That women are more attracted to well-educated adult males who can provide for a family? Shocking revelation!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:36 PM
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Nothing is “everything.” Stop with the black and white thinking. Luck is of course an important factor, but so is self-improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:33 PM
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Most women can’t just “marry a high income man when she wants to”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:23 PM
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Well yeah. I’m not denying culture has an effect on us, I’m saying our desires and urges are primarily the product of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:00 PM
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Just another broke loser trying to warn you about “gold diggers”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:47 PM
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When she starts to realize that I can do whatever I feel like whenever I feel like it, that usually helps her understand my financial situation
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:46 PM
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No we didn’t. Lifespan cannot be changed. We doubled our life expectancy, almost entirely due to reducing infant mortality. I define myself as an animal because that is what I am. I am a bipedal savanna ape with a brain slightly larger and more complex than my ape cousins. There is nothing special about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:43 PM
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Civilization came to be primarily due to agriculture, which came to be due to a uniquely stable climate regime that we are currently bringing to an end. Homo sapiens is 250,000 years old. Civilization is 6,000 years old; it’s a strange and brief aberration in human history. As for “human permanence”, idk what you’re talking about. No species is permanent. We’ll be extinct one day just like every other species will. Change is the only permanent feature of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:39 PM
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And guess what? None of that changes the fact that my basic urges and desires are still driven by evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:35 PM
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Well people tend to change a lot between childhood and adulthood, so there’s that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:32 PM
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Does it though? Or are you just repeating stereotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:37 PM
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Culture shapes us, but evolution still drives our basic urges and desires. 4,000 years is a drop in the bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:36 PM
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Homo sapiens as a species is about 250,000 years old. Genus homo is over 2 million years old. The 6,000 or so years of civilization are a drop in the evolutionary bucket. We are still ultimately just bipedal savanna apes, forced to live a completely unnatural life nowadays. Of course it’s going to be messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:35 PM
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Might makes right is the law of nature. Sorry, but we’re still animals, no matter how desperately you want to deny this basic fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:31 PM
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Well then that’s pretty sad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:39 PM
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So edgy bro
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:37 PM
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As a 15yo child, ok bud
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:34 PM
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Huh? You’re saying that YouTubers are in “positions of power”? Are you actually being serious right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:33 PM
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And who are these people who have committed suicide over false allegations? Any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:32 PM
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Bullshit. Men in positions of power regularly use their power to take advantage of and exploit others. It’s a tale as old as humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:31 PM
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Is this a serious question?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:22 PM
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Meeting people IRL through work, school, volunteering, sports leagues, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:21 PM
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Amen to that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:35 PM
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I use a condescending tone toward people who are clearly deficient in basic knowledge. I did read the title of your post and the entire post itself. It’s dumb, childish, and not based on reality. Again, there is zero evidence that human lifespan has been increased or can be increased. Average life expectancy has obviously increased, but that’s almost entirely due to a massive reduction in infant mortality over the last couple of centuries. Life expectancy =/= lifespan. Learn the difference and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:33 AM
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People like you who blindly believe in never ending progress are so amusingly naive. There is literally a 0% chance that any human ever lives to 200 or anything close to that. In fact, there is no evidence that we’ve managed to increase the human lifespan at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:28 PM
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The collapse of global industrial civilization in the next few decades should take care of the overpopulation problem
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 09:26 PM
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I wish someone could explain to me why so many people give a shit what a random dude with a microphone says or does
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:44 PM
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No one ever said zero percent of disabled people reproduce. They said it is statistically much less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:32 PM
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Lol what? It literally has everything to do with who people are attracted to. How tf are you so wrong about nearly everything you talk about on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:31 PM
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Having something drawn on your body is not “playing with needles”, nor does it signify any kind of “impulse control issue”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:14 PM
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Well then it seems you need more experience with women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:08 PM
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People are driven by subconscious drives and urges that are the result of evolution. Obviously no one is consciously thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:05 PM
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Your problem is black and white thinking. “Always”, “never,” “all”, etc. Of course some disabled men reproduce, but it’s certainly far less than men who aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:03 PM
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What are the drawbacks exactly? There is nothing inherently wrong with adorning your body with drawings. Some weirdo Puritans don’t like it? Oh well, they can die mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:03 PM
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You honestly are a pathetic little man and I would truly like nothing more than to encounter you in person and give you a much-needed attitude adjustment. “Men” like you are who give the rest of us a bad name.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:59 PM
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The real world, which guys like you would benefit from participating in
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:52 PM
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Yes, people still believe things that are observably true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:47 PM
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I love tattoos and piercings on women and I consider myself to be pretty traditional. I honestly never understood the negativity/hostility toward tattooed women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:45 PM
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Lol ok gramps. How tf does it mean “low impulse control”? If someone wants a tattoo, why is that an “impulse” that must be “controlled”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:43 PM
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I’m traditional and I love tattooed women. They’re also not a monolith, and are just as diverse of a group as women in general. Stop making lazy generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:41 PM
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Breaking News: Local man in shambles after discovering he must actually compete for women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:19 PM
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It’s nature, you don’t get to reject it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:17 PM
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This is a good thing though, since the planet is terribly overpopulated
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:15 PM
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How exactly am I being manipulated? If I’m getting something out of it too, how am I being used?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:10 PM
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Never paid for sex in my life. But I do know how to take care of a woman and I enjoy doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:06 PM
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For the vast majority of cultures throughout history, you were considered an adult after puberty. Follow biology, simple as that. Only in the past half-century or so have we as a culture become obsessed with infantilizing people, particularly women, to the point of absurdity. Women often had multiple children and were managing a household by age 20, but today we’re told that 20yo women are utterly helpless naive fools who are incapable of making any serious decisions. It’s honestly insulting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:55 PM
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Correct, but that still doesn’t change the fact that men must compete for high value women. In fact, it means men must compete more since there are fewer high value women these days. Personally I think the “body acceptance movement” has done more harm to dating than almost anything else. Women used to take pride in their appearance and their health. But nowadays we’re all expected to delude ourselves into believing that “she’s beautiful at any size.” Freed from the social pressure of having to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:35 PM
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Idk dude, all I know is that I always pay for dates and sometimes it leads to something and other times it doesn’t. I try not to worry too much about outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:25 PM
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They need to be more selective then. Overall in my life I’m fairly certain I’ve had a lot fewer dates than my peers, but a much higher success rate. Too many guys try to play the numbers game, which of course leads to a higher failure rate. It’s fine to use that strategy, but they have to be able to accept consistent rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:23 PM
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How does that change what I said? If a woman is a raging bitch land whale then she’s not high value, is she? It doesn’t matter how many high value women there are; the point is that because of their high value you must compete for them. If men are choosing to waste time competing for low value women, that’s on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:17 PM
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Or maybe she’s just more traditionally-minded. Not all of us consent to this dystopian society we’re forced to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:11 PM
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You can’t win ‘em all
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:09 PM
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Men absolutely enjoy the chase, but I think the more important thing to focus on is that submissiveness and having a personality don’t have to be mutually exclusive. Submissive doesn’t mean doormat, despite what a lot of people on this sub seem to think. And in purely sexual terms, the most submissive women are almost always the ones who are feistiest in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:17 PM
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Nope, he would be a woman who wants a real man. Not some broke whiny loser who’s so insecure about himself that’s he’s terrified about being “used” for a $20 dinner. After spending some time on this sub and seeing the posts and comments by guys like you, I’m coming to understand why most women these days simply aren’t attracted to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:54 PM
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It’s always the guys with nothing to offer who are so terrified of being “used.” Notice how men who are confident in themselves and actually have something to bring to the table don’t have these fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:51 PM
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Dude I’m legit not trying to be rude but I think you have some serious problems with reading comprehension. Or is it that English isn’t your first language? The fact that you think I’m a neoliberal capitalist is hilarious when I’m quite literally the opposite. I would burn this entire capitalist neoliberal civilization to the ground if I could. Idk what to say about the other stuff though. You’re just ignorant and living in a fantasy world if you don’t think men are, and always have been, compet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:57 PM
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Neither side is being used. They’re two humans coming together to trade what they have for what the other has. Been going on for 250,000 years. More if you count our primate cousins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:53 PM
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He hates that you get to coast through life while others have to struggle and fight just to hold onto what little they have, while you have more than you know what to do with. It must be nice to have your entire college experience paid for by someone else while also having infinite dating options that you can cycle through at your convenience. He’s upset at how oblivious people like you are to your own privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:40 PM
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This right here is a prime example of why modern dating is so utterly fucked. People are treated like commodities to sample and dispose of at your convenience. Tell me, since you’re clearly drowning in options, why not date one man at a time? Actually get to know him and give him a real chance, instead of already having one foot out the door thinking about the next date from your “roster.” Since you have so many options, you wouldn’t be missing out, because if things don’t work out with the guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:38 PM
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No it’s not “scientifically true.” It’s popsci nonsense. Please, go ahead and define for us what exactly a “fully developed” brain is. There is no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:28 PM
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She’s having trouble pulling them out of her ass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:24 PM
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Exactly. That’s what baffles me about these guys. They want “high value women” yet are shocked and appalled that they actually have to compete for such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:20 PM
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That’s not rape, and it’s fucking insulting to actual rape victims to claim that it is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:11 PM
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How is a man getting used if he’s getting something out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:10 PM
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Most men who claim to be “traditional” are just insecure modern right-wingers with a 1950s fetish, trying to have their cake and eat it too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:57 PM
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I’m sorry, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:55 PM
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It’s about being able to take care of yourself. If a man can’t do basic cooking and cleaning for himself, that’s a bit concerning, no? Why would a woman be attracted to a man who, much like a small child, is unable to take care of himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:33 PM
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Why tf are you so enthusiastic about defending this guy? Idgaf what you want to call it, rape, sexual assault, whatever. He’s still a piece of shit. And so are “men” like you who try to make excuses for him and downplay what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:30 PM
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Defending Brock Turner and Shittenhouse in one post, just incredible
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:12 PM
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When you love someone they become more attractive to you than they otherwise would be if they were just some random person
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:23 PM
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Where did I ever say I approved of toxic masculinity? I said masculinity and femininity are opposite poles, and that’s where attraction comes from. If everyone is the same, it’s hard to generate any attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 04:00 PM
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Is there even a shred of historical evidence that indicates that women in the past “just [weren’t] generally attracted to men”? It’s not surprising that in an era where men have been effectively neutered, most women wouldn’t find much to be attracted to. There’s a reason men and women are different: opposites attract. The obsessive desire on the part of progressives to mush humanity into an indistinguishable amorphous blob where everyone is perfectly equal and exactly the same is the problem. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:34 AM
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You would be surprised at how traditional many self-declared “feminist/progressive” women still are
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:12 AM
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*modern men These issues didn’t exist in the past. But of course women today aren’t attracted to most modern men, because they don’t act like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:10 AM
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I live in Portland, Oregon and most of my friends are communists and anarchists. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:08 AM
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Except I’ve literally never met a woman who said or acted that way. When I ask a woman out, I don’t specify beforehand that I’ll be paying. But when the check comes, I simply take it and pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:07 AM
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First of all, idk how tf you think I’m neoliberal in any way, shape, or form. Do you even know what that word means? But of course it’s a competition. Is this your first day on Earth? Men have been competing for women for as long as there have been men and women. No matter the time or place, men compete for women’s attention and affection, and those with little to offer rarely win the competition. The man’s interest is less important though. Any attractive woman is going to have the interest of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:03 AM
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In many cases dates are essentially between strangers. What do you think OLD is? Or blind dates? Or dates setup by your friends? Or cold-approaching? Even if you kind of know the person beforehand, like a work acquaintance or classmate, the first date is still useful as a designated one-on-one time where you can actually get to know the other person. So if there’s chemistry, you setup another date, and if there’s not, you move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:57 AM
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If you want something valuable, you need to invest in it. It’s not paying for her time, it’s showing appreciation for her choosing to give some of her time to you. She didn’t have to accept my invitation to dinner or drinks or whatever. She most likely has 17 other dudes also asking for her time, and that’s on top of everything else going on in her life. So yes, if she chose me and made the commitment to spend two hours getting ready and then an evening with me, I want to show my appreciation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:53 AM
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Exactly. People don’t seem to realize that we still have what is essentially a Neolithic brain. Our desires often don’t match up with our current reality, because culture evolves far faster than biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:38 AM
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Attractiveness is indeed subjective, but most women still find cheapskates to be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:12 PM
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I’m 35 and always pay for dates, and I have literally never had a woman object to it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:06 PM
-1

Well idk about you, but I’m not looking for a woman to financially take care of me. I’ve already got that covered. I’m looking for a woman to take care of me in other ways. That’s how the whole male-female pairing thing works. Man provides resources, woman provides companionship. It’s a tale as old as humanity itself, yet for some reason in the past few years men have lost their minds and can’t seem to handle it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:03 PM
0

It’s a competition, and you have to use whatever tools are at your disposal to make yourself as attractive as possible, or at the very least don’t make yourself unattractive. A man who is unwilling to buy a woman a drink or a meal because of some weird misplaced fear of being “used” is going to be unattractive to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:59 PM
2

I don’t understand this whole “feeling used” nonsense. I’ve been on many dates that didn’t result in a second date. So what? That’s literally what the first date is for, to assess compatibility and see if this is someone you actually want to pursue a sexual and/or romantic relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:58 PM
-1

It’s about proving your worth and showing you’re serious about her. If you can’t spend $30 on someone who you supposedly are very interested in, then you’re clearly not that interested. Assuming she’s at least halfway attractive, she has many other suitors. You really think she’s going to choose you when you’re too cheap/broke to even buy her a damn drink?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:54 PM
2

My experiences beg to differ. You might need to get out of your little cozy progressive bubble and spend some time in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:51 PM
5

It’s not about her being convinced to go on the date with him. It’s that, assuming she’s at least moderately attractive, he’s competing with many other men for her attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:49 PM
0

“Hey I really like you, and to show you how much I like you I’m going to invite you to hang out with me, but you have to pay your own way” I’ll never understand the dudes who think that being a cheapskate on the first date is a good strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:47 PM
1

For real. The overlap between the guys is on here who demand to split the bill and the guys who never get second dates has to be close to perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:44 PM
0

“At least the career won’t cheat” You sure about that? What do you call it when companies fire employees and then two months later hire new ones at a lower wage? Your employer doesn’t give a damn about you and never will. You are a cog in a machine designed solely to enrich the people at the top. At least your husband loves and cares about you and your wellbeing. You would choose an impersonal business relationship versus an actual human relationship based on sharing a life together? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:15 PM
1

Well I’m currently single and live alone, so if I didn’t do all the house chores then they wouldn’t get done. And unlike most of the guys on here, I have no desire to live in cluttered filth. When I’ve lived with a partner in the past, we’ve split the chores based on what we like/don’t mind doing. So in my last relationship for instance, she did most of the cooking while I kept the kitchen clean and organized. She hated laundry and I hated cleaning the bathroom, so I did the laundry and she kept…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 06:17 PM
1

But do most women actually want to work? Most jobs are pointless BS that overwork and underpay you. The vast majority of people don’t ever get to work their “dream job,” and if they do, more often than not the “dream” part very quickly gets lost in the “job” part. If it were still possible for most men to support a family on one income, we would see a lot more women opting for being a SAHW than you might expect. Let’s not forget that even today about half of women don’t support feminism. Many, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 06:09 PM
-2

Ah ok, so past bad, present good. Everything black and white. Got it 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:42 PM
3

If I did it would be tears of laughter about a man who can’t handle basic life tasks and then wears it like a badge of honor
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:42 PM
1

Then you really need to find a better class of people to hang out with because that’s insane
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:25 PM
8

Ah, so you’ve chosen to be helpless then. Also pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:24 PM
1

Perhaps we need to significantly alter our economic system so that a family can live off one income as it used to. Why should both partners have to work? Why is forced labor for all the world so many of you seem to want to live in? Why tf would I ever pay strangers to care for my child? That’s utterly insane to me. I would never let some minimum wage rando be one of my child’s primary caregivers. I don’t plan on having children, but if I did, their mother would be their primary caregiver, just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:22 PM
7

You don’t know how to cook or clean? That’s honestly pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:11 PM
-2

“Is either beaten or cheated on” You people are absolutely ridiculous with the assumptions you make. You cannot actually believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:07 PM
3

Why not? I’ve had female friends who I was also attracted to. As long as you both can communicate well it shouldn’t be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:13 PM
12

I don’t get what there is to debate though. Guy expresses romantic/sexual attraction to a girl, she says she’s only interested in being friends. So either be friends with her or don’t. Girl expresses romantic interest in a guy, he says he’s only interested in sex. So either have sex with him or don’t. What’s the issue we need to debate exactly? That it sucks to have romantic feelings for someone who only has platonic ones for you? Of course it does, but that’s just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:26 AM
1

Having purpose, real purpose, is what creates consistent happiness. There’s very little purpose or meaning in modern life, because most of the real struggles have been removed. We’re all just playing a shitty microtransaction-based RPG at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:21 AM
10

I just don’t understand what exactly the friendzone is. You want to date her, she just wants to be friends. So either you accept her friendship or you move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:14 AM
0

Repeated romantic rejection is a modern invention. For most of human history in most cultures marriages were arranged, with varying levels of input from the prospective spouses. There were certainly many men and women who would be considered less than desirable in those cultures, but any rejection was considered more a rejection of the family, not the individual. Nor was it a personal rejection to your face, as typically the fathers of the prospective spouses handled the arrangement. Nowadays we…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:42 AM
1

I want a long term relationship, so I’m not sure how getting to know someone is an “outdated strategy”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:25 PM
1

Unfortunately stuck in the modern era but trying to make the best of it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:58 PM
1

I’m looking for an authentic relationship, which is only possible by actually getting to know someone. Maybe we end up as just friends. Maybe we lose interest and stop talking. Maybe we date and breakup. Maybe we date and get married. Who knows? You have to live life and see where it leads.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:12 PM
3

Modern culture is based solely on individual immediate self-gratification. Our entire society exists solely as a sandbox for people to indulge in their hedonistic and narcissistic tendencies. The people at the top of the social hierarchy tell us that this is the best life has ever been, and because most humans simply aren’t that bright, and even fewer have any historical knowledge or understanding, we blindly believe what they tell us. A healthy society is based on the collective, NOT the indivi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:09 PM
1

Being severely ND is often a dealbreaker, but slightly? Not at all. You just have to lean into it and be authentic. If anything, it can help you stand out. Most dudes are boring clones of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:55 PM
1

Getting to know someone who you enjoy being around is never a waste
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:50 PM
5

Whether building a platonic friendship or a romantic relationship, you need frequent and consistent time together, in person, preferably spent on a shared task or goal. That’s why even for me, a misanthropic introvert, it was easy to make friends and get dates in college. Now, as a mid-30s single adult who WFH, it’s basically impossible to do either. That’s also why arranged marriages were able to work for so long and in so many different cultures, despite the horror the concept seems to generat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 03:48 PM
2

“Transformative thoughts” 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:03 PM
2

You need some sort of physical activity in your life regardless of your weight
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:07 PM
1

Absolutely false
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:05 PM
5

This is honestly just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:00 PM
17

Of course women are attracted to mental and physical strength. But the idea that you can never show any weakness is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:57 PM
3

But people lived with their extended families since before the concept of poverty even existed. Living with your extended family is the natural human condition. The time we’re living in now is a strange and brief aberration. None of what we’re living through now is natural or normal. People these days would be a lot less stressed if they had more people they could depend on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:05 AM
4

They’re fleeing from abject poverty and/or violence, not from their extended family
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:34 AM
5

It doesn’t work because the burden of childcare is too much for just parents to handle on their own. At almost any other time and place in history, childcare and most other domestic tasks were shared among the extended family. One of the primary reasons people are so stressed these days is because they’re having to do more than they ever have before. We used to depend on each other for nearly everything; nowadays we’re expected to handle practically everything on our own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:23 AM
9

Well given that humans lived that way for literally 99% of our history, it’s probably a good idea. Sharing burdens makes them much easier to handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:20 AM
1

Believe it or not women have different tastes, so there is rarely just one “hottest guy” in the group
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:18 PM
2

Honestly dude, judging from your posts you are far too socially clueless and paranoid to have any chance at dating a woman, so don’t even bother
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:12 PM
16

Why are you struggling so much to understand that women are human beings too? Why tf is that so hard for you to comprehend?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:09 PM
12

Who tf are “you as a person”? I’m so sick to death of seeing this nonsense repeated over and over again by guys on here. “I want her to like me for me.” Wtf does that even mean? Who are “you”?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:07 PM
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95% of the guys on here are severely autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:05 PM
1

This makes absolutely no sense. What about if the husband dies? Or cheats on her? Or abuses her? Or just leaves her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:37 PM
1

No, that’s weird. Who asks someone they barely know for gifts?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 02:46 PM
1

I’m focused on “gold” because that is the operative word here. Gold diggers want to be spoiled, they want wealth and luxury. A woman who is being financially supported by a man isn’t a gold digger, that’s just a woman in a more traditional relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:44 PM
3

Work on yourself while seeking a relationship. Why are the two mutually exclusive? It’s not like the work is ever going to be completed, so if men wait until they’ve “fixed” themselves they’ll be waiting forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:51 PM
1

Most of the men on here are on the spectrum. Taking things literally is what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:48 PM
6

I mean sure, but what gold are they digging from that? Gold diggers want to be spoiled. They want men with actual wealth so that those men will buy them expensive things and take them on expensive vacations. How is a man making $70k/yr going to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:52 PM
15

Most American males are legitimately convinced that with a year or two of “hustling” they’ll be a millionaire
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:00 PM
10

No, it’s not. At all. 1) You actually have to have gold to be dug. You really think a woman is going to put in all the effort of faking attraction to you for a $70k/yr salary? 2) Anyone with basic observational and social skills should be able to recognize a gold digger. Gold diggers want luxury. They want fancy things. They want to be spoiled and pampered materialistically. You can spot them from a mile away if you know what to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:57 PM
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The odds are heavily against you. Your logic is the same as working class conservatives who vote against social services that would improve their current QoL because it’ll mean higher taxes for them when they become rich in the future (which they’re all deluded into believing they actually will).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:53 PM
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This fear of gold digging that has infected so many men these days is really funny
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:02 PM
2

Humans are complicated creatures and it’s simply impossible for any human relationship to be “effortless.” Strong mutual desire doesn’t mean that the relationship doesn’t require effort. It’s not “my opinion” that all relationships are transactional, it’s a basic fact that any half-aware adult can recognize. I would love to hear an example of a relationship you’ve had that didn’t involve any negotiation or compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:34 PM
2

Just another side effect of the plague of narcissism that has engulfed the Western world. Loyalty and commitment are far too inconvenient in the Age of Immediate Self-Gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:24 PM
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1 for sure. A clear division of labor is more efficient, and if I’m making $1mil/yr then the extra $250k isn’t worth it for her to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:21 AM
3

Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:20 AM
6

Two humans sharing a life together, platonic, romantic, sexual, or otherwise is never “effortless.” Any “effortless” relationship is one where either both partners have no personality whatsoever, or where one is a doormat. All human relationships are transactional and require negotiation and compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:17 AM
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A healthy relationship requires two individuals who are self-aware, loyal, and willing to listen to, compromise with, and sacrifice for each other. Their goal should be to build a life together that is greater than the sum of its parts, better than either could have as a single individual. This means sometimes you won’t get your way, sometimes you’ll have to do things you don’t want to do, sometimes there will be bad days. But if this is someone you love, the reward is getting to share your life…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:09 AM
5

The backlash to progressivism and feminism has already begun, and in the next decade we’re going to start to see some social changes that would shock people today. The pendulum always swings back. Foolish modern Westerners think time is linear, but it’s not. It’s cyclical. Which is why “progress” doesn’t even technically exist. Things change, but always wind up where they began.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:18 PM
5

Well that’s a pretty childish take
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 11:12 PM
1

By posting on this sub with a “debate” tag you did ask for my opinion, along with everyone else’s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:35 PM
-1

Show evidence they don’t. Plenty of women get into sex work because they like sex and realized they could make a higher income doing that than getting some random shit job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:13 PM
1

Organ sale is permanent, sex is not. Also, anyone who doesn’t own capital is financially desperate. Hence why you have people working for $7.25/hr stocking shelves in Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:11 PM
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I’m curious how those women are being exploited? They are engaging in a business transaction, the oldest one in human history. She gives sex, he gives money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:34 PM
1

I’ve a far better understanding of evolution and human history than you do, I can assure you of that. All you have are nonsensical talking points about how women in the past hated their husbands and were forced to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:30 PM
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I’m pretty sure that there is near-perfect overlap between guys who bitch and moan about women expecting them to pay for dates, and guys who continually fail romantically and sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:20 PM
1

It’s all related though. When you do something that makes you feel good, you tend to want to do it again. And the more you do something, the more capable and confident you feel when doing that task. Feeling capable and confident is directly related to having high self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:13 PM
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This is such a weird thing to be splitting hairs over. Fine, they’re driven to “copulate,” not “reproduce.” I still don’t understand what point you’re trying to make about that though. Also, nice feminist hysteria at the end there. “Sentenced to a lifetime of serving under a man they aren’t attracted to.” Who says those women were not attracted to their husbands? It’s such a ridiculous projection by modern feminists. Just because you are bitter and miserable and hate men, doesn’t mean all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:10 PM
1

Define “use.” How exactly are men like me being used by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:39 PM
1

So many words to explain such a simple concept. Biology makes us feel good when we do the things we’re supposed to do. When we’re hungry, we eat, and it feels good. When we have to shit, we shit, and it feels good. When we have an infant that depends on us for its survival and it looks at us and smiles, it feels good and makes us want to take care of that helpless human. So why would sex be any different? Sex is the only thing that matters in life. Life exists to create more life. That’s all lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:39 PM
1

But they’re driven to reproduce regardless of whether or not they’re conscious of it. It’s also impossible to assess the level of consciousness of other animals; hell we struggle to do it with our fellow humans. Copulation, reproduction, whatever. The point of life is to create more life, and males generally take the lead in that endeavor. At the end of the day, sexual success for males feels good, because they’re doing what they’re biologically supposed to be doing. How we label that good feeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:33 PM
1

What does it matter if they’re conscious of the outcome or not? The point remains that the purpose of life is to survive and reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 03:30 PM
2

On the basis of logic and common sense. Not everything needs a peer-reviewed study. The only purpose of existence is to reproduce. Men who get to reproduce a lot feel more confident and accomplished (aka higher self-esteem) than men who don’t, because they’re having success fulfilling their purpose. How could being one of the best at your job (in this case reproduction) not increase your self-esteem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:36 PM
1

The only purpose of life is to reproduce, and human males are typically the ones tasked with “making it happen.” So of course our brains are hardwired to desire female attention and validation; those are the cues we use to determine who is going to want to reproduce with us. In the grand scheme of things, literally nothing else actually matters. Survive and reproduce. That’s the game of life. Everything else is a side quest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:32 PM
5

Lol do you? Because it doesn’t sound like you’ve been within ten feet of one in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:25 PM
6

So the women dating poor men are what exactly? An optical illusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:21 PM
0

Chasing and trying to impress women are what men have been doing for as long as we’ve been human. And once a woman is suitably impressed, then we protect and provide for her. That’s just the way the game works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:20 PM
3

No but they all are convinced they’re bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:06 AM
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“Hey you know this one person who’s famous specifically because she’s an outlier?”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:09 AM
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Ok but according to you he’s ugly and thus incapable of getting any women because there’s “no gym for the face.” He is a product of working on himself. You think he just woke up one day and decided, “hmm maybe I’ll be a famous actor”? No, he had to work and sacrifice and take shitty roles and lose out on roles he wanted and have 12-hour days on sets, etc etc. He has personality traits that would make him generally attractive to many women and that make up for his less than handsome face.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:02 AM
3

Grow a beard. I have a big head and an unimpressive chin/lower jaw. Beard balances my face and hides my weak chin. Go to a barber and get a good haircut. Forget Supercuts. Go to an actual barber and figure out a style that looks good for your head and face. Take care of your skin. Figure out your authentic style and start dressing better. There’s plenty of ways to enhance your physical appearance no matter how ugly you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:57 AM
0

I get that. But I’m saying that their low T is most likely caused by being sedentary and never exerting themselves. Use it or lose it. A lot of these low T guys just need to get up off their ass and do things that stimulate their body to produce more testosterone. Injections and/or other pharmacological interventions should be the last option, not the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:09 PM
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Regular resistance training increases testosterone though. I would recommend that first, then get tested after a while and see if you’re actually low T. I have a feeling that most of these young guys with low T are actually just couch potatoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 08:25 PM
0

So a woman is an adult at 18, and can make her own decisions, yet somehow it’s “creepy” if an older man is attracted to her? It seems to me that you don’t really view the woman as an adult, or why would it be creepy? You’re infantilizing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:17 PM
0

So when she turns 20 is it ok then? I’m genuinely curious at what age you believe adult women should be allowed to make their own choices in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:24 PM
2

“Creepy and unethical” for two adults to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:56 PM
1

I legitimately can’t tell whether this is satire or not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:00 PM
3

Feminists are so goddamn annoying. You view everything through the lens of modern Western culture, which is a very strange and brief aberration in human history, and then you attack anyone who simply points out basic facts about the past. No one is “excusing” rape and slavery, we’re just accepting that they are part of what it means to be human. Humans clearly like raping and enslaving. What we know of as “civilization” has existed for 8-10,000 years, and for the vast majority of that time rape …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 09:15 PM
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Women aren’t that picky, it’s just that most men these days simply can’t measure up. And it’s not even men’s fault. Modern culture has eliminated the ability for most men to prove themselves in the ways that men used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:15 PM
2

As opposed to valuing me for what exactly? I really want to explore this idea of being “loved for who you are” that seems to have infected so many men on this sub. When you say you want to be valued as a “human being” what does that specifically mean? You don’t want to be valued for what you can do. So what do you want to be valued for exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:47 PM
1

Then go work. We most likely wouldn’t be a good pairing, and that’s ok. Your job is an exception though. Most jobs are BS. Most jobs overwork you and underpay you. Hence why the majority of people in this country have one or more chronic health conditions and are living paycheck to paycheck and have little to no savings. Most people in this country quite literally get worked to death. Of course she would get to make decisions, it’s a traditional relationship not slavery. Not using your brain or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:29 AM
2

Protecting and “bringing home the bacon” is what men have done since time immemorial. I simply choose to trust the wisdom of the ages and do my best to live accordingly. Humans did things a certain way for millennia. Then the Industrial Revolution annihilated that way of life, and it’s been progressively downhill ever since. All I’m trying to do is build a bubble of traditional humanity for myself in a dystopian world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:20 AM
2

Ah ok I see the disconnect, you think she likes the money itself. No, it’s about being provided for. It’s about not having to worry about money. It’s about being able to live her best life (isn’t that what feminists want?) and not having to stress about working some BS underpaid job just to barely afford to live. Of course it’s transactional. All relationships are, platonic and romantic. We’re always giving and doing for others, and hopefully receiving in return. You scratch my back, I scratch y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:14 AM
1

When did I ever say I wanted a weak woman? Women from traditional cultures are a hell of a lot stronger than any self-declared “boss babes” today. Give me a traditional woman over a modern career woman any day. Edit: and to clarify I mean both mental and physical strength
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:01 AM
7

People always make up dumb excuses for the stuff in their past they aren’t proud of, just part of being human
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:47 PM
1

If she’s an adult, then she is absolutely subjected to it. Unless she finds a man willing and able to provide for her. Her companionship. Her feminine presence and energy. That’s mainly what I’m talking about when I say that she provides for me. Monks make a conscious choice to live a life of strict denial in order to bring themselves closer to the divine. It’s a personal choice and I respect the commitment, but have no interest in joining them. The vast majority of men have no desire to live th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:20 PM
1

The black and white thinking is so weird. Why do you think she couldn’t care less about me? If a woman wants a provider, that does not preclude her from genuinely liking the man who provides. That’s what you don’t seem to be understanding. She can like that I provide for her and also like being with me. I’m genuinely confused why you seem to believe the two are mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:14 PM
2

Their brains have been rotted by progressivism. They literally cannot even fathom a situation where the woman involved isn’t the victim. Feminists love to talk about “strong women,” yet they’ll never miss an opportunity to paint every woman as a helpless victim being chronically abused and oppressed by the men in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:06 PM
2

Typical bitter feminist mindset. Not even a consideration that it was a mutual breakup, or that the woman was at fault. Nope, just a rant about being “done with your shit,” “mediocre sex,” “picking up your mess,” “looking at your cheating face,” etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:03 PM
1

By their post-breakup actions you often can
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:00 PM
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Evolutionary survival adaptation. Being hung up on the dude who abandoned you or died is going to dramatically lower your chances of survival, while being able to quickly move on to the next man greatly improves your odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:59 PM
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Women are allowed to work, and most jobs are pointless and overwork and underpay you. Why would I want to subject a woman I care about to that kind of life? It makes me feel good knowing that I can provide a better quality of life for her. And in exchange, she does the same for me. See how that works? Men need women and women need men. This is undeniable. The fact that this is even remotely a controversial statement illustrates how fucked modern society has become. I’m not sure how needing a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:50 PM
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Well duh. If she’s looking for a provider type and I refuse to even pay the bill for a basic dinner, of course she’s going to think less of me. I’m not sure what you think you’re proving here. I’m trying to attract women who want to be SAH, so obviously I am going to pay for the dates. I pay for dates because I live by traditional values. If I want to get the attention of an attractive woman, then I need something to offer. This is how it works for just about every sexually-reproducing species o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:38 PM
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Men were providers and protectors long before organized religion. It’s our biological purpose. The only people who question this are overcivilized Western “men” who for some weird reason seem to want men to be women and women to be men. I don’t think women were oppressed throughout history. I think there were more clearly-defined gender roles based on a general sexual division of labor that worked well for the vast majority of societies for the vast majority of history. Just because men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:28 PM
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While I personally am not one to wait until marriage, I see no problem with waiting. Only sex-starved teenagers are obsessed with how quickly they can fuck. If you’re actually trying to build a relationship with someone, there’s nothing wrong with taking it slow. Indeed I’ve found it to be more fulfilling and lead to better outcomes than just diving in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:12 PM
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You’re a prime example of why society is slowly turning against progressivism. Smug, judgmental, completely intolerant of any way of life that doesn’t exactly match yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:10 PM
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Some women want a traditional relationship with a man who provides. Some men want a traditional relationship where they provide. Why does this upset you so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:07 PM
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This is such a weird attitude to have
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:06 PM
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Some women are traditionally-minded and are looking for a man who can provide. If that’s not you, that’s ok, but no need to shit on people with different priorities in life. Some men like being providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:04 PM
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The only social programming going on are posts like this telling men that they shouldn’t be providers. Men were providers and protectors throughout 99% of human history. That’s literally our only purpose. The era we’re living in today is a strange and brief historical aberration, which explains why so many men feel so lost and directionless these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:00 PM
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I should’ve been more clear, you’re correct. I was speaking from my personal perspective as someone in decent shape who lifts regularly and eats well, so it’s depressing to see how few women seem to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:06 AM
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Mutually assured destruction 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 04:01 AM
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If she’s physically attractive and is someone I would want to be friends with, then I’m going to be interested in her as more than a friend. When men and women are friends, it’s because one or both of them don’t find the other physically attractive. Otherwise they wouldn’t be just friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:58 AM
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This is unfortunately the harsh truth. Any quality woman who is decently physically attractive has already been locked down by 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:00 PM
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That’s one of the biggest (no pun intended) issues I’ve noticed. It’s not that most women are ugly, it’s that they’re obese and don’t even seem like they’re bothering to do anything about it. Even just a few decades ago, the average woman was just that: average. No one would mistake her for a supermodel, but she had a pleasant face and was a healthy weight and looked like she at least cared a little about her appearance. But nowadays the “average” woman is obese with bloated puffy face and a big…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:58 PM
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It’s about having the opportunity to actually meet someone and get to know them. Where exactly are adults supposed to do this nowadays? In college it was ridiculously easy, even for an introverted homebody like myself. As an adult? Basically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:50 PM
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Insecurity, plain and simple
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:00 PM
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Be a doer, not a consumer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:53 PM
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So your first wife made a poor life decision based on her temporary feelings of physical attraction toward you? And you’re saying that’s a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:25 PM
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No excuse why someone isn’t working? Maybe they don’t want to. Most jobs underpay and overwork you. As long as she’s doing her part at home, how tf is she “leeching”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:23 PM
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Exactly. It’s not just their appearance, it’s their whole attitude. Women in their 30s tend to seem joyless, at least compared to women in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:12 PM
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Humans are social creatures. The desire for the company of others, and particularly loving company, is a natural human trait. We need others. This idea that humans should just learn to be happy alone goes against the entirety of our biological programming. Chronic loneliness causes physical and mental health problems. Being alone makes people ill, and you’re on here trying to normalize it. Yes, people “get in relationships to feel whole.” That is literally the point. A life alone has no meaning …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:09 PM
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But that’s such an extreme position. Why is it either “love yourself” or “miserable, self-loathing person”? Is there really no middle ground?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:02 PM
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It’s all part of the cult of individualism, which desperately tries to convince us that our own individual lives and accomplishments are the most important things in life, even though humans are a highly-social pair-bonding species. We are not designed to live alone and spend much of our day alone. It is quite literally inhumane; it goes against everything humanity evolved to be. Self love is a modern Western invention, created by narcissists to give a philosophical foundation to their damaged a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:01 PM
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Widespread physical and mental health deterioration due to the destruction of community and family, combined with lack of meaning and purpose in most of what we do. The majority of people in the West are on one or more medications. The majority are overweight. The majority are anxious, depressed, and/or emotionally unstable. Our entire culture is nothing but mindless consumption and “hustling” to make the money to afford it. We stare at screens all day and have almost no actual useful skills. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 04:31 PM
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Levantines are definitely at or very near the top of the female ethnic attractiveness hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 03:17 PM
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I have no power to destroy it, but it’s on its way to collapsing on its own
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 01:10 AM
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Capitalism is just feudalism with extra steps. Modern employment is just slavery with extra steps and better PR. The people at the top of the system are pissing on you and telling you it’s raining and you’re dense enough to actually believe them. That’s what “progress” is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:32 PM
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I don’t think that though. It’s just your overly-dramatic conclusion based on lack of historical knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:29 PM
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What we know of as “human civilization” has existed for about 8-10,000 years. The “modern world” is about 50-250 years old depending on how exact you define “modern” (personally I choose the start of the Industrial Revolution). Understanding how humans lived for the vast majority of their history is pretty important to understanding why humans act the way they do today. Our brains do not change at anywhere near the pace that culture has. If something existed and functioned for thousands of years…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:41 PM
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Ok then what word should I use to describe being romantically and sexually exclusive to one person at a time?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:12 PM
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One sex not needing the other is a massive problem. Every human culture that has ever existed has been built on the foundation of the two sexes needing each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:10 PM
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Combined with the slow collapse of industrial civilization, this is a lot more likely than the people snarkily replying to you realize
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:08 PM
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Love comes after commitment. What “someone brings to the table” determines whether or not you commit to them. When you commit to someone and start to build and share a life together, love develops. Your second paragraph is 100% true. “Madly in love” = infatuation. True love is stabilizing and comforting, not exciting and passionate. The reason so many relationships fail is because they were built on passion, not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:21 PM
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Respect, honor, loyalty, commitment, and sacrifice are all dead, killed off by “progress”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:14 PM
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You can still be monogamous in your dating practices by only dating one person at a time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:58 PM
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I would enthusiastically give up my phone and all the other pointless distractions and toys we have if it meant a return to a better era.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:57 PM
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There’s almost no jobs in those towns, and the ones that are there pay $7.25/hr
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:59 AM
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Monogamy should always be expected, but sadly we live in a time of rampant narcissism and immediate gratification
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:01 PM
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Male circumcision is awful and should be banned. Not a big fan of conscription either; if the men of a society don’t want to fight for it, then it doesn’t deserve to exist any longer
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:50 PM
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Most abusers are very easy to spot, as are most shitty people in general. Women aren’t fools. They see the red flags, but choose to ignore them because the guy is so hot/funny/exciting/etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:48 PM
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It would be my fault if I saw a bunch of obvious red flags but chose to ignore them. Most women who end up in abusive relationships see the red flags early on but choose to ignore them because the guy is “so hot/funny/exciting/rich/etc.” Can we please stop pretending women are helpless fools who can’t see obvious negative traits in men? They can, they just choose to not care until the consequences arrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:47 PM
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No, there’s just a higher threshold for ending things than there is in the modern West. As it should be. In the U.S. these days, people literally can get divorced because they’re bored. They can blow up a whole family on a whim. Sorry, but that shouldn’t be acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:44 PM
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How are the two mutually exclusive? A good way to discourage divorces is to focus on ensuring good matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:42 PM
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Too much free will is a bad thing. For all humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:53 PM
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Which will only create more conflict down the road
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:50 PM
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You should be responsible for avoiding those situations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:41 PM
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It’s part of the modern Western mindset centered on unrestrained individualism, which inevitably leads to narcissism. Narcissists can never accept accountability, so is it any wonder that in the most narcissistic culture on Earth so few people these days (of both sexes) are willing to take any responsibility for their actions? The modern West is built on the victim mentality. “I’m a beautiful unique precious snowflake so how could anything bad that happens to me ever be my fault?! Surely someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:40 PM
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They need to learn from their past mistakes and then do better. Giving up is still a way of avoiding responsibility. It maintains a mindset of, “most men suck so I’m just going to avoid all of them,” rather than, “I’ve made terrible choices with men but I’m going to learn from them and choose better in the future.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:33 PM
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“I had this great idea and even though it goes against everything that humans have done for millennia, I know I’m right and everyone else throughout history is wrong because my idea just feels right.” This is why liberals are morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:21 PM
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All our brains are. This is basic biology. Evolution is slow, social change is rapid. Why do you think this sub even exists? Because of the disconnect between our modern cultural values and our savanna ape brains. This sub is literally just a bunch of humans dealing with the contradictions and confusion caused by living in a world that our brains are not designed to function in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:18 PM
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If you’re waking up next to Gollum, it’s because you were piss drunk the night before, not because she was wearing makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:15 PM
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“I saw a bad photo of a woman once so that proves my point!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:12 PM
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You’re drawing the wrong conclusion. Divorce is still allowable, it’s just seen as a terrible, absolute last resort, because in those cultures it means the dissolution of the bond between two families, not just two individuals. Divorce is discouraged because it is socially destabilizing. It can affect literally dozens of people. Modern Westerners can’t grasp this fact though, because their brains have been so infected by individualism that they can only see things through the lens of how they wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:27 PM
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This is such a childish and outlandish take on what arranged marriage actually is. Typical Western woman, hating something she doesn’t even understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:17 PM
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That’s not how arranged marriages work. Maybe educate yourself before posting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:15 PM
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Guess 99% of men throughout human history are like that then
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:14 PM
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There’s also social pressure on the fathers to ensure a good pairing. An unhappy marriage reflects poorly on the fathers who arranged it. Remember: arranged marriages are primarily about connecting families and building/strengthening social ties. If your daughter despises the husband you chose for her and is constantly in conflict with him, that’s going to destabilize the larger family group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:13 PM
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Most cultures that practice arranged marriages involve the prospective husband and wife in the process. It is almost unheard of that two fathers simply arrange a marriage between their children with zero input from them. Prospective husbands and wives typically have veto power, and the arrangement process itself takes years, as multiple candidates are considered and vetted. Furthermore, no one benefits from an unhappy marriage, and indeed a bad pairing would reflect poorly on the fathers who arr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:10 PM
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Yes it absolutely does. Our brains still function the way they used to. Social change has progressed orders of magnitude faster than biological evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:56 PM
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The right to have control over their own bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:57 PM
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Sure, men “can” like anything, but most of them like mostly the same things. Most men don’t like obese women. Most men are not judging women on things like “weird head” or the size of their eyes. Most men like women to be shorter than they are. Most men don’t like hairy women. Most men like younger women. Are there outliers? Of course. Just as there are for women. I just don’t get why everyone here can’t agree on the obvious fact that most men like certain traits, and most women like certain tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:22 PM
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The point isn’t that it doesn’t happen. The point is that most women are not dating abusive assholes. So the two assholes you knew doesn’t prove anything other than that some assholes can succeed in getting dates, which no one has denied.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:17 PM
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You quite literally said, “because romantic relationships are a tool of the patriarchy invented to oppress women.” Those are your exact words, and they are absurd. Romantic relationships are not an “invention,” and nobody designed them to “oppress” you. Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:53 PM
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Two examples counts as “often enough”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:50 PM
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This further proves my point that women aren’t some kind of hive mind. You can indeed be a “10/10 beautiful man” and yet plenty of women will still end up not being interested in you, because other traits of yours aren’t appealing to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:51 PM
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Idk, which gender is it? I’ve never personally known anyone who does that, man or woman. Are you basing this off some random TikTok you saw? Normal people IRL don’t do this. The fact that you think women are only dating or fucking their ideal man is absurd. Yes, women are only slightly pickier. At the end of the day, the average woman just wants a confident, physically fit man who demonstrates the ability to take care of himself and others. I think the issue is that few men these days can fulfil…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:46 PM
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And women are okay choosing men who don’t fit all of their preferences too. Do you actually believe that every woman out there is only fucking or dating her ideal man? Women are slightly pickier than men on average. But being a bit choosier =/= hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:52 PM
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Well in terms of politics it makes sense since, at least in the U.S., there are only two political parties and one of them continually tries to restrict women’s rights. It’s not really a surprise that women are overwhelming liberal when the conservatives are trying to essentially criminalize female bodily autonomy. As for music and everything else, maybe that’s your experience, but it hasn’t been mine. The women I know have just as much diversity in taste of music, etc as the men I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:48 PM
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Proof of what? That men who aren’t conventionally attractive still have romantic and sexual success with women? You’re asking me to prove that? Literally just look around. I saw it in high school, I saw it in college, and I see it all around me as an adult. Dudes of all types are dating and fucking. Do conventionally attractive men have more success on average? Sure. But so do conventionally attractive women, so what exactly is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:42 PM
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Translation: I watched a couple TikTok’s that talked about this
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:25 PM
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Dating is higher risk and more dangerous for women than it is for men. Some women are terrible at seeing red flags. Both of these statements can be true simultaneously. But the idea that most women are dating abusive dirtbags with zero redeeming qualities has no basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:24 PM
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Do you not understand jokes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:18 PM
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Men do have lower standards than women on average, which makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. Men are programmed to want to spread their seed; it’s always been a numbers game for men. Women are programmed for the opposite: looking for the best possible partner to provide for and protect her and her future offspring. But claiming that women are a hive mind is ridiculous hyperbole. They don’t all like similar music. They don’t all have similar political opinions. They don’t all like the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:34 PM
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And there’s plenty of regular average dudes who look like these celebrities in terms of basic appearance/vibe/style and are also getting women despite not having money nor social cred.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:07 PM
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Women have just as much variety in their desires as men do. There’s women who like skinny tatted punk dudes, there’s women who like roided-up jocks, there’s women who like well-dressed businessmen, there’s women who like KPop guys, there’s women who like tweed jacket wearing intellectuals, there’s women who like dad bods, etc etc etc. The things you say that women have in common aren’t that different from what men have in common. Most women want someone taller than they are? Well most men want s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:05 PM
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This is exactly why I take all survey results with a grain of salt. Just because someone responds a certain way to a specific prompt doesn’t mean that captures the totality or complexity of their true feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:50 PM
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Yes, there are certain traits that the majority of women find attractive. No, that does not mean all women are attracted to the same traits. Obviously different women have different tastes in men, just like different men have different tastes in women. I don’t understand what the debate is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:15 PM
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I mean yeah sure they’re allowed to be, but how many guys want to date an antisocial neurotic woman? Women need confidence and social skills to succeed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:44 AM
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A lot of people seem to find Jesus when it’s convenient for them. Politicians do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:19 PM
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But only obsolete because of the unfortunate societal changes forced upon us over the last century or so
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 04:17 PM
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Dating is overly complex because everyone expects to find the “perfect” person, and their dating pool is basically all of humanity, and they have essentially infinite time to do it, so they end up being driven mad by analysis paralysis. Humans struggle with too many options. Our brains aren’t designed for it. There have been many studies showing that when humans are given fewer options and less time to make a decision, they end up happier with their decision than the people who had more options …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:33 PM
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Marriage made sense for millennia, but then we had all this wonderful “progress” in the last century or so, which has made marriage effectively obsolete today
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:16 PM
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I should want someone to love me because I’m funny? I provide entertainment for a woman, so she gives me love in return. Ok, seems fair enough. But what happens if I’m not as funny as she thought I was when we first met? Does that mean she never loved me for “who I am”? I should want someone to love me because I’m smart? So because I won the genetic lottery and was born with a brain that works slightly faster than others’, that’s “who I am” and I should want a woman to love me for that? But what…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:01 PM
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No, because your point doesn’t make sense. Being a provider is a way of living; taking out the trash is an activity you do once a week. Apples and oranges. If I am someone who feels fulfilled by providing for my wife and family, and am able to do it, you’re saying that isn’t a part of who I am? And if not, then what exactly qualifies as “who I am”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:35 PM
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It comes from men. We don’t like to share. In a man’s ideal world, the woman he’s with would have only ever have been with him. Thus, whether they consciously even realize it or not, most men view promiscuous women as less desirable, in terms of getting into a relationship. They’ll gladly pump and dump promiscuous women, but rarely do they want to get into a committed relationship with them. So when women give it away freely, they’re inadvertently reducing the number of prospective future partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:24 PM
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And yet most people are average, and most couples are composed of two average people. It seems your complaint is with the above average women, who (rightly) use their attractiveness to their advantage, as all humans would.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:19 PM
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What would you rather the women do? Be honest and tell a guy he’s ugly as sin? You really think that would go over well with most of the thin-skinned guys on here? Also, the guy very well might be ugly and have a terrible personality. So the advice would still be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:15 PM
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But how does that mean that being a provider isn’t part of “who he is”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:09 PM
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I think we should absolutely praise housewives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:07 PM
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Well like I said, there’s a baseline level of attractiveness you have to reach in order to be considered. I don’t think women are denying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:05 PM
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As will some men. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:04 PM
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But women aren’t pretending. What woman has ever said that looks don’t matter at all? But they have said many, many, many times that there are other things that matter besides just looks. Men are exactly the same. Looks matter, but they’re not the sole source of attractiveness. A woman can be 10/10 looks-wise, but if she’s got a shit personality then I have zero interest in being around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:03 PM
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No one is saying we should rely solely on romantic relationships, but it’s ridiculous to imply that the patriarchy “invented” romantic attraction. Also, it’s interesting that you are so critical of the patriarchy/traditional ways of life, yet traditional cultures almost always have a much stronger emphasis on community than modern liberal ones do. Modern liberalism at its core is just unchecked individualism (i.e. narcissism); it’s all about the self. Traditional cultures are almost always orien…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:59 PM
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Those two statements aren’t mutually exclusive though. I, as a man, also care about more than looks, but women still need to meet a minimum physical attractiveness threshold to get my attention. What’s wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:45 PM
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Men’s sexuality isn’t their most valuable asset though. They lose nothing by giving it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:32 PM
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I don’t really understand how relying on yourself is less stressful. What if you become disabled or sick?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:30 PM
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What does “liking a man for who he is” actually mean? What exactly makes a man “who he is”? Is his ability to be a provider, the role that men have had throughout human history, not part of “who he is”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:27 PM
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I didn’t realize romantic relationships couldn’t exist within loving communities
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:15 AM
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Whoever said that? I’m just responding to her BS with my own BS
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:32 PM
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Some of us actually want to live a real human life unmediated by screens and endless thoughts of, “how can I monetize this?”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:23 PM
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This is literally the PPD version of that meme 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:21 PM
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😂😂😂 You are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:21 PM
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Or I could just go to the event and enjoy it like a normal person. You can’t be present in the moment if you’re busy filming and planning how you’re going to edit some dumb video that 17 people are going to view and then immediately forget about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:20 PM
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Absolutely, unequivocally no. Social media rots our brains and society. We should be encouraging people to give it up, not double down on it. Also, your last point about AI kind of undermines your whole argument. AI is going to put 99% of influencers out of business.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:18 PM
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Me reading that last paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:23 PM
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A woman like you would probably benefit from a little subjugation 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:45 PM
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The few existing hunter-gatherer tribes in existence are nearly extinct, and do not live the way they used to either. They’re confined essentially to nature reserves, and often aren’t even allowed to hunt. They almost always depend on the outside world for at least some of their food. There is no one on Earth living as humans used to; it’s just not possible. And assuming there was a group doing so, it’s not like I can just show up and join them. That’s not how things work in traditional societie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:39 PM
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I do so against my will. That’s like saying the circus animals love performing because they’re doing it. What choice do I have? Just because I’m forced to live in this world doesn’t mean I enjoy it. Not sure why that’s so hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:26 PM
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Tbf it was fathers who almost always controlled marriage. Prospective grooms rarely had much more say in the arranged marriage than prospective wives. Polygamy and concubinage were generally only practiced by elites and thus weren’t really a part of most people’s daily lives. Women who are in a relationship absolutely can have power. That’s what modern Westerners can’t seem to understand. A submissive wife who understands how to use her sexuality can have her husband wrapped around her little fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:18 PM
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Women can be very powerful within their relationship through the use of their sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:12 PM
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There’s a reason some of us argue that things were better in the past. Women got their “liberation” and then most of them decided that it was a good idea to give away their most valuable asset for free. This is why so many “liberated” women can’t find any good men. Who do you think is going to commit to you when you’re giving yourself away all over town?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:09 PM
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I’m not domesticated, or at least not fully. I chafe at the absurdities and restrictions I’m forced to deal with in civilized society, and I would happily burn it all down if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:36 AM
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That’s because you’re domesticated. Most humans these days are, mainly because the ones who refused to be domesticated were killed off. You prioritize comfort, convenience, and ease, as all domesticated animals do. It’s why a wolf will grow depressed in captivity, while a dog is content and indeed could not even imagine any other life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:08 PM
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Well to a degree, that’s the path I’m on. My plan is to buy land or join an intentional community in the next few years and start living a simpler life close to nature. But I can never escape all the techno-bullshit because it has literally changed the world. Most waterways are polluted. Most wild animals have been killed off or are protected in nature reserves. Most wild plants have been outcompeted by crops or invasives. I can’t live like humans lived. I can’t hunt or gather. Every square inch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:01 PM
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I would say that romantic feelings are the result of the combination of platonic and sexual attraction. If you’re platonically attracted to someone, you want to be their friend. If you’re sexually attracted to someone, you want to fuck them. If you’re platonically and sexually attracted to someone, you want to be in a romantic relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:33 PM
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Personality can be modified, but overall it’s not something that can be completely flipped from one extreme to another. That’s just not how it works. The introvert is always going to be introverted; it’s a matter of finding ways to still be social in spite of your introversion. But you can’t just decide to not be introverted. You can, through force of will, overcome your introverted tendencies, but it will keep you under consistent stress to maintain the facade. If all the man cares about is sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:12 PM
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This has to be satire. You’re literally just mashing buzzwords together 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:59 PM
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I believe he’s referencing the time before civilization and agriculture, which ushered in the concept of permanent hierarchies. That would be my ideal era to be born in as well. But any time before the Industrial Revolution was better than any time after. Give me a real, authentic human life over this modern BS where everything is based on comfort and convenience. We’ve sucked all the meaning and purpose out of life and then wonder why everyone is so depressed. Don’t you find it even a bit inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:58 PM
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You can still be yourself while simultaneously working to improve yourself. Who ever said the two were mutually exclusive? The thing that matters is authenticity. What are you doing and why? Are you trying to act like some cocky asshole because you think that’s what women want? That’s not authentic and it’s not self-improvement, it’s just playing a part that you think will get you temporary sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:49 PM
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I’m not talking about just sexual attraction though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:46 PM
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That’s not true though. There are plenty of shy, awkward, introverted men who are in relationships. I’d use those three words to describe myself and I’ve been in relationships. And for the record I do not look like “Chad”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:36 PM
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But they never said all short ugly balding dudes were killing it. They said if you have a niche, that can significantly increase your attractiveness to opposite sex people who share that niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:31 PM
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Short ugly balding guys who have a niche. The last part is key and seems to be what you’re not understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:27 PM
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Yeah but I’m also weird and eccentric in certain ways, and I’m open with my thoughts and feelings. According to most of the guys on here, those traits will “repulse” and “disgust” women and send them running.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:25 PM
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I’ve had multiple heartbreaks and my view of the opposite sex hasn’t been destroyed. I’ve been rejected more times than I can count and yet I don’t go around bashing women. That’s why I view these men as pathetic. They act as if they’re the only people who have ever experienced disappointment, rejection, and heartbreak. We all do, but we learn to deal with it in healthier ways than shitting all over the opposite sex and/or making up nonsensical beliefs about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:23 PM
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Agriculture and civilization was the start of everything going downhill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:18 PM
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It’s gross that adults should be allowed to live their lives and make their own decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:16 PM
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The funniest part is that it’s always the men with the least to offer who are utterly shocked that women don’t just fall at their feet and “love them for who they are.” These guys will be 30 years old, living with their parents, their entire personality is video games and anime, and they’re just completely baffled at why “being themselves” isn’t attracting any women. And then of course they’ll blame the women for it. “Damn bitches only want 10/10 gigachads who treat them like shit, life is so un…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:47 PM
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Genghis Khan was honest, loyal, and honored his commitments. No one ever said mass murderers couldn’t fit that bill, so what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:37 PM
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What kind of question is that? Oh let me guess. I’m going to say “no” and then you’re going to reply, “well then how come this one time I heard about this serial killer in prison and he has a bunch of women writing him love letters so that clearly means all women prefer psychopaths.” Is that the dumb point you were trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:27 PM
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Sure, but do they have other traits that add to their value as well? I never said high value men only had those traits; I said to be considered high value you need those traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:07 PM
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And there it is. The perfect distillation of 99% of male whining on this sub. “This one time, I acted like myself and this girl who I was dating for two whole months broke up with me, so clearly that means I’m going to be forever alone because all girls only like gigachad alpha monsters and there’s zero hope for anyone who isn’t a 10/10 arrogant asshole alpha Chad”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:04 PM
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I mean yeah, duh. “Yourself” still has to have some attractive qualities. But it’s so ridiculous to keep seeing these posts arguing that men have to be some kind of ubermasculine Superman in order to have any success with women. Assuming you’re halfway normal and not ugly as sin, “just be yourself” is perfectly good advice. Tbh I wish I learned that earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:59 PM
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“Have always done” 😂 You really think history is just a straight line where humanity ceaselessly “progresses” toward better and better things? Even a cursory glance at human history should tell you that’s blatantly untrue. History is cyclical. And there are already signs that this “progressive” cycle is nearing its end. It peaked in the 2010s. The next few decades will be a gradual reversal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:53 PM
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Men who cheat are liars who are too weak to honor their commitments or control their urges. That is low value no matter how you try to spin it. If that’s changed, then that illustrates just how utterly fucked and unnatural modern Western culture is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:46 PM
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It’s not about female approval, you’re just writing shit that’s dumb with no basis in reality. Call me whatever names you want, I’m still beating you in the game of life 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:34 PM
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As with every single other “attraction” debate on here, the answer comes down to the simple fact that attraction is holistic. No one is attracted to “just this” or “just that,” nor is there any standard grading criteria, even within each individual category. Each situation is unique. Some women are more focused on facial features but then one day find themselves falling for a guy with an average face but a great sense of humor. Some men tend to go for skinny blondes and one day find themselves l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:06 PM
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Are you actually being serious right now? I can’t tell if this is fantastic satire or if you’re just a 15yo incel
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:48 PM
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High value men are honest, loyal, and honor their commitments. Low value men whine, lie, and are always looking for immediate gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:34 PM
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Men are always sorting their social hierarchies, just as any other social primate would
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:10 PM
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The greatest lie ever told was that “the past” was a time of universal misery and suffering. The second greatest lie ever told was that “embracing progress” was the only way to eliminate misery and suffering. Things are obviously worse now. Across the board, not just romantic/sexual relationships. Modern society is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions and hypocrisies. I look forward to the day when we finally start tearing down all of this “progress” and return to the way that h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:51 PM
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Why not? They’re biologically and legally adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:40 PM
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“Ostracized by society” is a little dramatic. Just live your life and stop worrying about what random idiots think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:39 PM
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The traditional porn industry is far more dangerous for young women than OF
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 03:37 PM
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Well meeting them is the main obstacle right now. Like I mentioned in my comment, it’s basically impossible for me to meet people in my current life situation. So I can either sit around being sad about it or I can do something about it. I choose the latter, which in this case means using my money to help me meet attractive women. But the other part of it is that I genuinely enjoy taking on the provider role. It makes me feel good knowing that I’m making her life easier, and in exchange she make…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:23 AM
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It was a minority of women, and mostly upper class (and white) women. Even today, a substantial fraction of women oppose feminism/women’s lib. If life was so uniformly and consistently horrible for women everywhere, how come only a minority of women cared enough to support their own supposed “liberation”? For comparison, as far as I know there aren’t any Black people in the U.S. wanting to be re-enslaved. Black people were actually oppressed and actually gained real liberation. Yet millions of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:04 AM
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I love how you brainwashed modern Westerners simply cannot accept that most people in the past were ultimately content with their lives. Were their lives perfect? Of course not. Neither are anyone’s lives today. But overall, most people were and are content from day to day. Good stuff happens, bad stuff happens, but overall it’s just life and they make the best of it. But this idea that all women in the past were uniformity miserable and oppressed and constantly suffering is a load of BS with no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:20 PM
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My question is: what is “genuine” dating? What makes a relationship “legitimate”? Why am I sugar dating? Because it’s easier. I’m an introverted homebody who works from home and has hobbies that are mostly solitary. It’s pretty much impossible to meet anyone, let alone attractive single women. Sugar dating simply cuts through all the wasted time and frustration. I can meet attractive women easily and we can get right to the point: what are we both looking for? If we’re on the same page and we vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:16 PM
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Well then you’re doing something wrong. Seven figure wealth unlocks a lot of doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:14 PM
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Who said I was? It would make sense that if a woman was dependent on a man as a provider and he could no longer provide, that she would consider leaving him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:53 PM
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More often than not it’s because the woman simply got “bored.” Rather than work through it, as countless previous generations of women did, she simply abandons ship. This is not surprising, given the cultural messaging most young Western women have been receiving for the past few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:10 PM
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What part of, some women want a man who can provide for them, are you not understanding? By your logic, every traditional marriage is just a guy paying for sex. Why does it make you so upset that other women are being taken care of? Is it because no man wants to do the same for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:46 PM
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And I’m arguing that the ability to provide can be part of someone’s overall attractiveness. I just don’t get why you’re trying to deny something so obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:38 PM
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It also doesn’t mean she didn’t enjoy the sex. It’s so funny how you modern Westerners literally cannot even imagine that there are people who think and live differently than you do. The idea that a woman could find a man attractive for his ability to provide, and that she could actually enjoy having sex with him, is seen as simply unbelievable by you. You cannot grasp that there’s more to life than just immediate gratification based on superficial nonsense. You really think that your attraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:35 PM
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It’s funny that it’s always broke dudes telling me that “wealth isn’t attractive”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:28 PM
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It’s on the list of things that can lead to sexual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:27 PM
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Lol what? Looks are permanent? Have you not heard of aging? I am embracing reality, it’s you who continues to deny it. It’s beyond obvious that being a provider attracts women. Obviously looks are important. Obviously personality is important. But acting like the ability to provide isn’t also important is just ignorant. Do all women get attracted to providers? Of course not, and certainly not in the modern West with all of its proudly “liberated” women who have been raised to be horrified at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:26 PM
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I said it’s the ability to provide that leads to attraction, not the money itself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:22 PM
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I always love when people speak so confidently on things they know nothing about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:21 PM
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But looks aren’t permanent, and, especially nowadays, can be altered. Wealth isn’t necessarily permanent. Neither is status. Even personalities change. So who are we, inherently? What makes you you? When you say someone is attracted to who you inherently are, what is it they are attracted to exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:07 AM
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I would argue most of those men are so desperate that they’re willing to accept fake attraction over none at all. So are they being scammed or are they simply settling for the best they think they can get? But I do agree that in general men tend to overestimate their abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:05 AM
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Always so black and white with people on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:00 AM
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Money? No. Being provided for and taken care of? Feeling safe and secure in life? That’s a different story. Of course money itself does not create attraction. But a man who has it and uses it to take care of his woman is attractive because of his ability to provide. Attractive to all women? Of course not. No man is. But there are plenty of women who desire a more traditional relationship and are attracted to men based on their ability to be a provider. Let’s not forget that for most of human his…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:59 AM
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Sounds like the problem is men who lack self-awareness and suffer from overinflated egos then, not an actual inability to detect scams. If a man is self-aware and isn’t egomaniacal, he should be able to differentiate between a woman putting on an act and one who is genuinely attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:16 PM
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Versus the women who are attracted to good looks? They don’t care about the person, they just want an attractive face to look at it. Versus the women who are attracted to a sense of humor? They don’t care about the person, they just want to be entertained. Versus the women who are attracted to a high status man? They don’t care about the person, they just want to move up the social hierarchy. All relationships are transactional, and that goes both for romantic and platonic. Why would you keep so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:13 PM
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How is it different at all? You’re telling me that if a woman is attracted to me because of the structure of my facial bones, that’s a good thing, but that if she’s attracted to my ability to provide, that’s a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:08 PM
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Why would I spend my money providing for someone who isn’t going to fulfill their end of what’s expected in the partnership? If I actually have a level of wealth sufficient to attract women, then that means I have options. Why would I choose to be with anyone other than a woman who wants an actual relationship and genuinely wants to be with me? Gold diggers are easy to spot, so why would I even waste my time with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:44 PM
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Couldn’t that be said about anything though? Those kind of women are not attracted to him, they are attracted to his good looks. Those kind of women are not attracted to him, they are attracted to his high status. Those kind of women are not attracted to him, they are attracted to his personality. I’ll never understand why attraction to wealth is seen as somehow separate and different from any other kind of attraction. What exactly does it mean to be “attracted to him but not his [insert trait h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:40 PM
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I don’t recall telling people I’m masculine, but I have tried to define it for the guys on here who struggle with things like basic definitions of words. As for telling people that they’re dumb, idk what you want me to say? Don’t say dumb stuff and I won’t call you dumb. Simple as. And ok, if you don’t like the phrase “high value man” then propose a suitable substitute. How should I describe such a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:33 PM
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I’m confused why it’s so black and white though. Why does making 100k+ mean he would be lonely? Wouldn’t that make him more attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:20 PM
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Because no matter what most women say, they still want a man to be a provider. It’s hardwired into their DNA.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:58 PM
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I enjoy being a provider, so yes. Though with a caveat that she has to have something going on in her life. If she’s just sitting around watching TikTok all day, then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:56 PM
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This. We all settle, on just about everything. Rarely does someone get exactly what they want. Most of the time our lives are made up of “the best we can do,” and not “the best possible version that ever existed.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:51 PM
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But why not just use my money to find an attractive traditional wife who’s looking for a provider, and then procreate with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:46 PM
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And then they call themselves “stoic” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:15 AM
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Why on Earth would I want to have children with my SB? The whole point of a sugar relationship is that it’s supposed to be casual. Creating new life is pretty damn serious, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:12 AM
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What “statistics” are you referencing? Who has the stats on the dating success of bullies? What specifically defines a “bully”? What specifically defines “success in sex and romance”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:06 AM
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Pretty funny eh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:04 AM
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Huh? Being respectful to everyone is one of the best displays of social dominance there is. Only weak men feel the need to show off and try to assert themselves over others. Truly dominant men don’t need to prove it to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:47 PM
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I agree completely. I had to take a couple weeks off and then fell out of the routine and missed another two weeks. In the meantime I could feel my depression and anxiety starting to spin out of control. Finally got back to the gym the other day and it’s like I’m a new man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:44 PM
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Because it seems like any man who is remotely successful with women is labeled an “asshole” by guys like you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:41 PM
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It’s honestly sad that guys like you can’t fathom that high quality men actually exist. Men can be bold, assured, sociable, and uninhibited and not be bullies, and the fact that you refuse to believe that says more about you than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:40 PM
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Sounds pretty pathetic tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:37 PM
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It continually blows my mind how many guys don’t seem to understand what you posted. Women are generally attracted to masculine men. Some masculine men are assholes. But it’s the masculinity that is making them attractive, not the asshole behavior. And guess what? More often than not, the woman either realizes she picked an asshole and leaves him, or they stay together in a toxic relationship and pop out a bunch of babies and spend their days drinking and fighting and living in near-poverty in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:25 PM
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I mean I guess if literally all you want is immediate noncommittal sex with a low value woman before she moves on to the next asshole to fuck, then sure, I guess you have a reason to be upset
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:21 PM
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No, they haven’t. They’ve labeled toxic traits for what they are. The problem is guys like you can’t seem to differentiate between true masculinity and the pathetic and failed attempts by most guys to emulate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:18 PM
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You literally asked what would happen if women rose up and demanded men make them sandwiches or they won’t have sex. I replied to you with what the most likely outcome would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:34 PM
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Tedpilled technically, though Ellul is pretty cool too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:32 PM
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Ditto for industrial society as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:23 PM
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Small sample size, but the two relationships I’ve been in (~1yr and ~9yrs, respectively) both began by meeting her at a time and place where I wasn’t actively looking to meet someone. But both instances involved my social group and actually being out in the world doing things, and if I had been sitting at home alone, then obviously neither meeting would’ve ever happened. So I believe that serendipitous encounters can absolutely occur, but they usually require other factors to be in place beforeh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:22 PM
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They’re extremely over-represented in this sub though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:47 PM
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There is no longer a need for men in modern society, thus most males stay perpetually stuck in adolescence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:42 PM
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That was a lot of work just to brag about your disproportionately big dick. Good for you, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:36 AM
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It’s still crazy to me how a few months of some minor inconveniences caused people like you to utterly lose your damn minds. Grown men throwing temper tantrums because they had to wear a cloth mask in public, acting as if they were being subjected to literal torture. Absolutely pathetic. If only there was a virus to wipe out conspiracy-minded halfwits like you, the world would be a much better place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:27 AM
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I’m very sorry that governments didn’t perfectly handle the first global pandemic in living memory
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 01:22 AM
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I mean there’s no guarantee that your authentic self is likable or attractive. You very well might filter out just about everybody. Not everyone can be a winner. But here’s the thing: you can also make changes. Being authentic does not preclude you from taking action to make yourself more attractive. The original point I was trying to make is that putting on an act is a terrible idea that almost always ends in failure. But genuinely attempting to improve yourself is a great idea, and will almost…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:40 PM
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Ah yes, the next excuse. “Well if she’s more attractive than him then he must be a doormat or be rich!” I just honestly can’t comprehend why the idea that many women are attracted to personality, and indeed will often prioritize it over looks, wealth, etc, is so utterly inconceivable to people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:36 PM
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Have patience, these things take time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:31 PM
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Weird then that they took such extreme measures to contain its spread, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:27 PM
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Most humans are idiots, news at 11. You think guys aren’t missing bright red flags all the time too? Humans tend to see what they want to see and believe what’s most convenient for them. Men are just as guilty of this as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:38 PM
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Yeah you’re right, I must be hallucinating when I see couples where the woman is more attractive than the man. Clearly women only care about looks and there is literally no hope at all for non-Chad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:35 PM
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No you’re missing the point. The filtering happens naturally, simply by you being you. So if you’re “stoic, stable, but ultimately boorish,” to borrow one of your examples, then anyone who doesn’t like that will most likely distance themselves from you. The people who choose to be around you after getting to know you are the people who actually like you for you. But you’re not consciously doing any filtering, that’s what’s so great about it. You’re simply being yourself, and the people who don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:33 PM
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But what are we changing exactly? People are the input in this scenario. China has 30+ million extra men. You don’t think that’s an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:27 PM
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“Rather”? I never said that. I’m simply responding to the premise of the post, which is that true equality can never exist between men and women because men can tilt the scales in their favor whenever they choose to. Is that factually untrue?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:26 PM
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Then you’ll filter out people who aren’t attracted to that type of person, like I said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:04 PM
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They would have sex and then she would make him a sandwich. Because men are stronger than women, and if push came to shove, men can simply use force to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:03 PM
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Plenty of women, if not most, will be turned off by a shitty personality regardless of physical appearance. A great personality can also make up for struggles in the looks department.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:59 PM
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This is always such a weird way of thinking to me. “Well it hasn’t happened yet in this arbitrary timespan, so that means it’s *never happening.” Effects take time to be realized, and that’s starting now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:48 PM
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War is always a good fix for male overpopulation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:46 PM
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And the American dudes think they’ve got it so bad. At least there’s an even sex ratio here. Also, I would guess that China is going to have to start a war within the next decade just to cull some of their excess male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:45 PM
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This is a great jerk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:27 AM
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I mean, do I really have to say what would happen in that scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:22 AM
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No one is twisting anything. It’s just that this sub is overpopulated with dudes on the spectrum who take shit so goddamn literally that they end up completely misunderstanding simple concepts. They hear someone say, “oh you’re such a nice boy, you’ll make a girl really happy one day,” and they think: “being nice is how you get a woman.” Sorry, but that’s on you. You say guys accept when they get passed on for someone who is objectively better, but you don’t seem to be accepting it. The reason t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:26 PM
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The most important life lesson I’ve learned so far is to stop trying to make everyone happy, along with its corollary, stop trying to be liked by everyone. No matter who you are, no matter what you do, you will never make everyone happy, and you will never be liked by everyone. I wasted so much of my childhood and young adulthood trying to do that, and not until my 30s did I realize my mistake. Be yourself. Be authentic. Do what feels right to you. Dress how you want, pursue whatever hobbies you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:13 PM
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Damn I must be really unique then because I’m not a Chad and I’m neither a doormat nor an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:14 AM
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I’m not denying her anything, and I have zero interest in playing the games you describe. We both like the pace we’re moving at, we communicate well, and we’re becoming closer and more interested the more we get to know each other. I just legitimately don’t feel the need to rush toward sex, so I don’t find it odd that there are women who feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:15 AM
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Dominance does not mean disagreeableness. Assertive does not mean disrespectful. Confident doesn’t mean arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:10 AM
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Or you could just be assertive and confident without being a dick. I’ll never understand guys who think “assertive/confident” equals “asshole.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:06 AM
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Gotta love this black and white thinking. Doormat or asshole. Only extremes, no middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:05 AM
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Maybe just be yourself from the beginning so you can start attracting women who are actually attracted to your authentic self? Are you sure it was the niceness that scared her away, and not the fact that your entire personality changed abruptly? You put on an act in order to attract women who like assholes, then you drop the act and are surprised she loses interest? Not only were you lying about who you are, the person you are isn’t her type. How tf is this her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:04 AM
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Lol what? It clearly worked for him, given that you exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:00 AM
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You were never nice to begin with if that’s your attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:58 AM
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No it wouldn’t. Most likely it would make him angry and bitter that some woman called him ugly and boring. And then he would post about it on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:56 AM
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Well first of all, finding the perfect person isn’t about just getting laid. So which is it that you want? A serious monogamous relationship or just a quick fuck? But besides that, what exactly do you want people to say? The example quote you gave is an empty platitude. It’s like when you say to a cashier, “how are you?” Do you actually give a shit how this random person’s day is going? And when they reply, “good,” do you honestly think that’s the full and complete answer? So when you complain a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:54 AM
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But then a lot of women will simply refuse to date anyone. Or they’ll start dating other women. So now you’ve got to criminalize being single or lesbian as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:29 PM
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Your entire premise is nonsensical because redistributing wealth is pretty straightforward; just raise taxes on the rich and provide more generous aid to the poor. How would we ever “transfer romantic success,” short of literally enslaving women and then…what exactly? Bidding on them? Having a lottery? Passing them out to men randomly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:26 PM
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Hmm well I’m a man and I like to take it slow, especially with women I really like, so how do I fit into this ideology of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:15 PM
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Ok Jimmy G
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:13 PM
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Well yes, that’s part of being in an intimate relationship. But I’m so sick of this idea that all men want is sex and don’t give a damn about anything else. That’s simply not true and never has been. Just because sex is part of being in an intimate relationship doesn’t mean that it’s the only thing that matters or even my top priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:12 PM
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More intimacy overall, not just sex. I’ve had girlfriends and I’ve had girls who are friends; while the latter are great to have, they’re not a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:08 PM
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Well yeah, I’m just saying it doesn’t have to be like how most guys on here talk about it, where if she isn’t jumping your bones on the first date then she’s repulsed by you. Of course some level of attraction is necessary to get the ball rolling, but it doesn’t have to be much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:10 PM
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Companionship still has more value. That “raging sex drive” can be tamed with my hand, and the “urge for multiple partners” is just that, an urge. I don’t let my life be controlled by petty urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:08 PM
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Getting to know someone does equate to building attraction though. I can see it happening in real time with the woman I’m dating now. Taking it slow and letting things grow and develop naturally is honestly far more satisfying, and has a much higher chance of creating a more stable and longer lasting relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:52 PM
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Are you really trying to argue that men aren’t attracted to things like personality and intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:45 PM
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Do you not understand the difference between a girlfriend and a female friend? Yes, men are generally lonely in all ways, but they’re usually specifically lonely for intimate female companionship. I’ve always had female friends throughout my life, but it’s not the same as having a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:44 PM
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I would take companionship over sex any day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:40 PM
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I’m a man and I have multiple types of attraction. Sex is one aspect of it, not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:38 PM
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It’s not a mindset, it’s just a biological and evolutionary reality. When and where in history have men not competed for women? What exactly is to be gained by not competing? Then you’re guaranteed to get nothing. Men are interchangeable and expendable, and societies seem to be more stable when their young male population is periodically culled via war. Less men competing with each other means more social harmony. In other debates I’ve made the argument that war is a net positive for humanity pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:30 AM
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Women inherently have more value, thus men have to work to earn their attention. That’s the way it’s always been and the way it will always be. Why don’t average and below average men just date average and below average women? This whole MGTOW shtick is a bit ridiculous and completely self-defeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:32 PM
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Makes sense. No one wants the village bicycle, but they don’t want someone completely inexperienced either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:06 PM
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Why should it be any other way? Why should unremarkable men get any attention from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:02 PM
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Some people are shallow. I choose to avoid such people. You should too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:57 PM
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Do you not understand what “subtle” means?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:55 PM
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“This bad thing happened to me this one time so that makes all of you liars”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:54 PM
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In this instance, vulnerability would be him sitting down with her and having a discussion about why her male friend makes him feel uncomfortable. Insecurity is lashing out at her and being a passive-aggressive asshole to her on unrelated issues because he’s too scared to voice his concerns on the actual issue bothering him because he’s scared of her reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:18 PM
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You realize there’s a healthy middle ground right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:14 PM
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Just be yourself from the beginning. That filters out all the people who won’t like you for you (this goes for both platonic and romantic). That’s honestly one of the most important life lessons that I’ve learned, and I wish I had learned it a lot sooner. You’re never going to be liked by everyone, so don’t even try. Just be who you are, the people you aren’t compatible with get automatically filtered out, and the ones who remain are the ones you should focus your attention and energy on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:13 PM
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I’ve heard a lot of guys on this sub complaining about it but have never experienced it in person
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:10 PM
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They’re women, not aliens. Just talk to them. It’s not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:54 PM
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But why is it a feminine trait? What about being emotionally vulnerable is feminine? It requires you to take a risk; isn’t that usually viewed as a masculine trait?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:50 PM
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Then we as a society need to start raising better men. It seems to me that the problem isn’t traditional marriage, it’s shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:40 PM
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Except that we have zero evidence that mid level government bureaucrats have ever, at any time or place in history, had a “harem of concubines,” regardless of their salary. Harems were reserved for chiefs and kings, who more often than not obtained their power through exercising their “alpha” traits. Also you’re confusing dowry with bride price. The dowry is given by the bride’s family, and serves as both a status symbol for the bride’s father and an insurance policy of sorts in case her husband…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:32 PM
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All humans are needy. Needing others is part of being human. We’re a social species, and a pair-bonding species. Chronically single people and/or those who are socially isolated have worse health outcomes. Only someone whose brain has been completely fucked by the modern Western cult of individualism could argue that needing others is wrong. It’s literally part of being a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:21 PM
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Only if you define “need” as literal life or death. For most humans, having a partner greatly improves their quality of life, to the extent that it is effectively a need if you want to have a complete and fulfilling life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:17 PM
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As a very general and not-to-be-taken-too-seriously statement, I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:30 PM
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Lol what? Are you delusional? You don’t think women in the past were sexually attracted to the “exciting bad boy Chad”? Women have always been torn between wanting the exciting bad boy and the stable, dependable provider. It’s a tale as old as humanity. In the old days, who do you think was getting more attention from women? The badass 6’2” jacked warrior, or the meek 5’7” scribe with the stable but boring government job?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:16 PM
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I like being a provider and taking care of someone. I like that she doesn’t have to work some shit job and be stressed about money. Her happiness and lack of job/money stress makes me happy. I’m so sick to death of this BS narrative that all traditionally-minded guys are psychopathic manipulators who want to abuse and exploit their gf/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:12 PM
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But why is needing someone wrong? Being human means being dependent on others. This idea that it’s wrong to need your partner is so strange to me. Why on Earth would I commit my life to another person unless I felt like I needed them and they needed me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:10 PM
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Yes we do. Men and women are complementary. We need each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:08 PM
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Or maybe we should have more consequences for infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:07 PM
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Commitment used to mean something. Loyalty used to mean something. People used to swear solemn oaths over the graves of their ancestors. Fuck this modern BS where everyone is encouraged to be a selfish narcissist whose only goal in life is the pursuit of short-term pleasure. Fuck that. We need more stigmatization, not less. We need more consequences for disloyalty, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:04 PM
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This is the correct answer. Modern society is inherently emasculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:57 PM
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Since when are vulnerability and masculinity mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:55 PM
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Obviously most women prefer masculine men, just as most men prefer feminine women. Do people really not understand how human sexual attraction works? The differences between men and women are what attracts them to each other. Male-female pairing is supposed to be complementary. Each side is supposed to bring something the other lacks, and by pairing up they create something better than the sum of its parts. But why does almost everyone here have to take that basic fact to absurd extremes? All th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:53 PM
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And if I did?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:19 PM
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It will be a long-term change in societal norms and laws. The pendulum has swung too far one way, which means it’s destined to swing back the other way. That’s just how it works. Progress is a myth. History is cyclical and humans have been acting out the same stories for millennia. Every progressive era is followed by a reactionary era. Look at the rise of right-wing ideologues around the world in the past few years. They haven’t done much yet, but they’re slowly and steadily building support an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:29 AM
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No I just don’t hang out with scumbags
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:22 AM
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There’s already a backlash to feminism and sexual liberation brewing. Couple that with the accelerating collapse of global industrial civilization and the ensuing societal chaos that causes, and we’re about to see the pendulum start swinging back in the next decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:38 AM
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Most people aren’t forced though. That’s the thing that Western liberals refuse to accept. Most men are going to act in ways that are stereotypically masculine, and most women are going to act in ways that are stereotypically feminine. The occasional outlier doesn’t disprove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:34 PM
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Two things: 1) For most of human history, in most cultures, females in their teens and early 20s were married off to “established” men, almost always in their 30s. These men were considered the most attractive because they had proven themselves as men (usually as a hunter or in battle) and had access to valuable resources (meat, money, etc). In a natural human society, older men are generally going to be attracted to younger women, and vice versa. It’s a simple trade off: her youth, beauty, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:02 PM
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I forgot common sense and basic observational abilities are a rarity on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:49 PM
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Women aren’t encouraged to express vulnerability because they usually already do. Men are usually the ones obsessed with the idea of being “stoic.” I mean shit, how many posts on here have been from men convinced that women will ghost them the second they show any emotional vulnerability? Women being passive-aggressive in certain instances does not mean women avoid communication. And I would argue that women act that way at times because I the past they’ve felt unheard by a man when they do try …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:47 PM
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Vulnerability isn’t an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:38 PM
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Usually it’s as obvious as their look and personality. Gold diggers are materialistic, and materialistic people are easy to identify because of how they live their life. The stuck-up woman who dresses like a Kardashian and has a $4,000 bag on her arm is going to raise some big red flags for me. The chill artsy girl who shops for clothes at thrift stores is not. It really just comes down to: what does this woman seem to value? If it’s material accumulation, if her favorite hobby is buying expensi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:08 AM
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Don’t need stats to know that most divorces aren’t due to anything that serious. It’s usually just one partner (usually the woman) getting “bored” and/or deciding that they “deserve” better. Sorry, but blowing up a family because you’re bored is not a valid reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:54 AM
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So instead let’s focus so heavily on the potential negatives that people on here are literally refusing to believe that any woman prior to like 1980 was ever happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:52 AM
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That’s correct. Our relations with others and the social roles we play define us; not our individual accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:46 AM
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But a human cannot lead a happy life of solitude. We are a social species. The occasional hyper-introverted outliers don’t change that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:45 AM
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This. All the proud loners on here are the ones who actually have psychological issues. It’s not normal to be ok with being alone all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:43 AM
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Homo sapiens is a social species and a pair-bonding species. We desire community as well as intimate relations. Saying that humans who can’t be alone are weak is like saying humans who can’t hold their breath for ten minutes are weak. Sure, some humans can do it, but it’s not a typical aspect of being human. There’s no virtue in being a loner, and study after study indicates that consistent solitude leads to worse health outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:40 AM
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Poor vetting ability. Gold diggers are easy to spot a mile away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:53 PM
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Some of them did, some of them didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:37 PM
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I mean sure I guess if she has no family
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:36 PM
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And yet trust and vulnerability are the only way to create the deep bonds necessary for true love. To get the best out of life, we have to take risks. Most modern relationships are so vapid and superficial and prone to sudden dissolution precisely because no one is willing to be vulnerable or trust anyone. We’re all so hypervigilant for any signs of “red flags,” any reason to cut bait and move on at the first bit of difficulty. People used to actually commit to each other, “richer or poorer, in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:36 PM
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If life is so much better for women these days, why are they less mentally and physically healthy than ever? Men aren’t part of this discussion. We know they’re a mess. But so many posters on here are claiming that women’s lives are significantly better now that traditional marriage has declined. So many posters love to bring up how 50s housewives were popping pills and abusing alcohol. Yet that’s exactly what modern career women are doing, and they’re fatter than ever too. Women have all these …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:20 PM
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But two incomes require both partners working, and that doesn’t always equate to a better lifestyle. If one income could support the family, it would make far more sense for one parent to not work, especially if there are children involved. If I have children, there is no way I am ever sending them off to some daycare (not to mention the cost of a decent one practically eats away an entire income anyway). Even without kids though, life just runs much more smoothly when one partner manages the ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:15 PM
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Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:02 PM
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Yeah it’s so much better these days, now she’s dependent on Zoloft with a side of Wellbutrin, and some Xanax on hand for her panic attacks
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:16 AM
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Lol as opposed to all the single career women dependent on their daily SSRI to get out of bed in the morning and their daily bottle of wine to get to bed each night?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:14 AM
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Multiple people on this sub have literally used the word “slavery” to describe traditional marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:12 AM
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No you’re missing my point. If women are now freed from the shackles of marriage and have all these rights and freedom that they didn’t used to have, why are their health outcomes still so terrible? Shouldn’t an increase in personal freedom lead to an increase in happiness and thus better physical and mental health? Everyone loves to point out how 1950s housewives were popping pills, yet conveniently forget to mention how modern single career women are also popping pills and downing them with al…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:08 AM
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I mean I can waste time sourcing it but it’s all pretty obvious. Are you actually going to try to argue that women aren’t more obese now than 100 years ago? I think it’s pretty obvious if you, idk, just look around. I read an article a few months ago about how UK and US women lead the world in binge drinking and the problem is getting worse. And again, just look around. Women drink more than men these days. Same with being medicated. I can’t remember the last time I met someone who wasn’t on at …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:03 AM
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I mean yeah, duh. But if one income was enough, as it used to be, then many if not most people would choose that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:47 AM
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I don’t care how physically fit you are, unless you’re Ronda Rousey you’re not beating a man in a fight
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:42 AM
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No, because I enjoy being a provider. There are many women who prefer to be taken care of financially rather than work a job. I don’t believe any of them think they’re signing up to be enslaved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:26 AM
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Half the time the reason is essentially “boredom”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:19 AM
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You realize that plenty of our grandmothers and great grandmothers loved their husbands and were happily married for decades, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:19 AM
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Well you kind of explained why historically men and women have had about a ten-year age gap in marriage. Younger women are more desirable and older men have more strength, experience, and resources. It’s a very logical way to pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:18 AM
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The one I’m dating now 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:15 AM
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90% of the stuff posted on this sub is stupid and statistically [un]likely and yet people have no problem discussing it ad nauseum. But for some reason whenever the topic of a man being a provider and taking care of his SAHW comes up, this sub melts down and acts if we’re talking about instituting chattel slavery for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:14 AM
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Congrats, you found an example of an asshole. It proves nothing other than that some men are abusive assholes, as are some women. But plenty of men enjoy being providers and don’t use it to “domineer” their wives, and it’s ridiculous to act like they just don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:02 AM
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The rate of marriage went down and yet people are more unhappy than ever. Women are more obese, more likely to be diagnosed with a mental illness, more likely to be alcoholic and/or binge drink, and more likely to be on medication than back in those supposedly awful days where they didn’t have basic rights. All this freedom, all this independence, and yet women are less physically and mentally healthy than they have ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:56 AM
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So that means what that guy did isn’t also extreme? That is not normal nor common behavior. But yes, there are millions of men who beat their wives, and millions more who don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:53 AM
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So you take one extreme example of an abusive asshole and extrapolate it out to cover all men? Are you being serious right now? This is just as egregious and absurd as the 15x/day posts on here whining about how they saw a TikTok where a woman made a joke about a guy being short so that means all women are evil whores who only want 6’5” Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:14 PM
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Thank you for further illustrating my point. “Benevolent slavery.” My goodness. That’s what you think marriage is? Slavery? Wtf is wrong with you people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:10 PM
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There is going to be a massive backlash against feminism within the next decade. In fact, I would argue it’s already begun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:03 PM
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10% of the U.S. population is 33 million people. That’s a lot of people. Who said no education? A SAHW can’t have a college degree? Achievements? Ambition? Who tf cares? I sure don’t. I just want a simple life with someone I love. The last thing I want is someone filled with ambition and desires for “achievement.” Narcissistic BS. You realize people can have skills and choose not to work a job, right? When did I ever say that women should be confined to the house? You’re literally making stuff u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:47 PM
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Unfortunately most people don’t seem to prioritize commitment these days
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:39 PM
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Maybe that means we need to change how our economic system functions then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:35 PM
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Yes, because I trust my ability to vet
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:23 PM
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Sorry that I’m not swallowing the BS narrative that marriage is slavery and all women prior to 1980 were housebound slaves, barefoot and pregnant 24/7/365, getting beat by their husbands because dinner was two minutes late. All these horror stories are just that: horror stories, not representative of how the majority of women lived. Most women were fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:23 PM
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Many men enjoy fulfilling their traditional role, as do many women. Don’t be bitter and jealous just because you can’t do what men have done for millennia. Just because a woman chooses not to work a job doesn’t mean she’s “foregoing any ambition and skill.” That’s absurd and insulting. I have far more respect for SAHWs than I do for career women. I don’t want my future wife to have to work because I want her to focus on what she’s actually passionate about, instead of worrying about a paycheck. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:19 PM
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Most women throughout history did that and ended up fine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 03:41 PM
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Or maybe she will be “trapped” in a wonderful situation with a man who loves and cares for her and provides for her every need. How come we don’t talk about that possibility? Why is it always the potential negatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 03:39 PM
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Population decline is a good thing. The world is overpopulated with humans. Just because we stupidly chose to build our economic system like a Ponzi scheme doesn’t mean we should double down on that mistake by exacerbating the overpopulation crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 03:36 PM
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Idk how many women are specifically looking for a leader. They want confidence, because confidence is attractive, but that doesn’t mean they want a leader to submit to. Additionally, there are few men these days worthy of being called leaders, and even fewer who a woman would want to submit to. That isn’t entirely the fault of most men, it’s more a cultural issue, but the fact still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 12:26 AM
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Leadership doesn’t mean bossing someone around. Leaders earn their status through how they behave and treat others. They respect, inspire, and motivate others, they don’t shy away from difficulties or challenges, and they take responsibility for the entirety of a situation even if they were not directly involved in it. A boss is just someone with more power than you who tells you what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 12:22 AM
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Any time you get a bunch of likeminded people together it’s going to end up being a circlejerk. That’s a human thing, not just women. You really think male-only spaces are any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:23 PM
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Sure, but we’re also better at controlling such urges because they aren’t life or death. Women are the way they are because, historically, it improved their odds of long-term survival. There’s no survival benefit to a man spreading his seed, thus the urge to do so is far easier to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:23 PM
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Yes, and they have historically restricted their own rights as well. In order for a collective (i.e. “society”) to function properly, individual rights need to be restricted. The reason modern society is such a mess is because there is no structure and there are no social roles. It’s a chaotic free-for-all where everyone gets to do whatever they want, whenever they want, and don’t care who is affected by it. Unsurprisingly, despite all this “freedom,” everyone is more miserable than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:19 PM
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Because the reason is usually that they would rather be chasing after pointless personal accolades and career accomplishments. Nuns and monks practiced asceticism; their lives were focused on discipline and renunciation of indulgence and self-gratification. That’s something to respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:13 AM
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In my experience, women are far more likely to be disloyal than men are. It’s not even entirely a conscious thing; they’re genetically predisposed to always be on the lookout for a better situation. This is why traditional cultures placed certain restrictions on female behavior. It wasn’t because men are evil; it was because they saw the societal chaos that happens when women are left entirely to their own devices. Thanks to “women’s liberation” we’re now getting to learn that lesson anew. It’ll…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:51 PM
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A combination of high cost of living and rampant cultural hedonism and narcissism. People who want kids can’t afford them, and people who can afford them don’t want them because they’re too busy “chasing their dreams” and being their “best self.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:53 PM
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It’s only predatory if you act like a predator. If you’re genuinely looking to start a relationship with a woman from a more traditional culture, there’s nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:18 AM
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And yet it still applies in real world conditions because women are still the reproductive bottleneck. Men are mostly expendable, thus have less value than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:47 PM
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You understand that most people don’t lose their virginity at 13, correct? That is a glaring red flag, especially for a woman. It’s not the flex you think it is. I lost my virginity at 20 and don’t see any reason to be ashamed of that. I was a sheltered only child and a late bloomer. So what? I’m not married but I was in a nine-year LTR that ended during the pandemic. I’ve casually dated since then. I’m looking to settle down in the next few years once I get to a more stable place in my life. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:48 AM
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You’re stating your preference and backing it up with nonsense statements, acting as if men in their 40s are frail 80yo’s with one foot in the grave. Your preferences are based on ignorance, and I’m going to call you out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:39 AM
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Lol just because someone had sex a few times as a teenager doesn’t make them experienced
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:38 AM
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Any person of any age can fuck up your life. It’s so ridiculous to specifically focus on just older partners in AGRs. As for your part about “stealing someone’s opportunities” and “interfering” and being “selfish” - why do you have such a terribly negative opinion of older people? Have you not ever heard of the concept of a mentor? Have you not ever considered that many young people, specifically young women, would have very good reasons for wanting an older partner? And what is this “stealing” …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:43 AM
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No they don’t, they just want to be outraged by AGRs. It’s like with MAGA voters. They don’t actually want to solve the border crisis, because then they wouldn’t have anything to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:37 AM
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When did I say stop developing? I said that humans who go through puberty are biologically adults. Is that factually incorrect?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:35 AM
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Probably because he’s basing it on biology, and the majority of humans these days go through puberty by 15, thus becoming biological adults
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:17 AM
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It’s gross because what the literal hell are you talking about? You’re saying that we should consider making it illegal for a 25yo to date anyone over 40? You think we should have laws on the books to restrict fully developed adults from making their own relationship decisions? Are you actually being serious right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:16 AM
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Correct. Each family unit benefits from having more males because males bring in more valuable resources (meat from hunting, metals from mining, higher salary vs women in the modern world, etc). A male is more valuable to his family, but a female is more valuable to the larger society (tribe, nation, etc). Severe overpopulation isn’t a problem in most societies, however, so situations like China’s one-child policy are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:09 AM
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It’s actually very traditional. I’m a man with resources taking care of a younger woman in exchange for her companionship. That’s about as traditional as you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:00 AM
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Unfortunately the cancer that is Westernization has metastasized
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:56 AM
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I’m not getting defensive, I’m just baffled by some of the shit you’re saying and pointing out how dumb you sound
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:55 AM
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It’s a red flag that I didn’t have extensive sexual experience by the time I started my 20s? That’s an interesting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:50 AM
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Women in non-Western cultures don’t have the weird hangups over older men that Western women seem to so often have
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:53 PM
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Taking care of yourself can absolutely prevent most of the common negative effects of aging. Men aren’t supposed to be weak, overweight, decrepit pieces of crap by age 40. That’s a choice, not a destiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:50 PM
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I’m just stating the obvious, not sure how that’s an attack. I was a young man not that long ago, and I was skinny, had bad skin, didn’t have much money, and dressed poorly, which are all common traits of young men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:47 PM
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Just because we’re the same species doesn’t mean that we don’t have significant differences
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:45 PM
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I didn’t say physical prime, though it’s certainly possible. Maybe my cardio isn’t as good as it once was, but I’m stronger than I have ever been and it’s not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:43 PM
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Women aren’t more valuable? Really? Women are the reproductive bottleneck of every society. Each woman can only produce one child at a time (twins, etc are statistically rare and thus not relevant here), but each man can theoretically father infinite children so long as he can keep finding new women to have sex with. Now imagine two tribes, each with ten men and ten women. The tribes go to war, and in one tribe, nine out of the ten men die, while in the other, nine out of the ten women die. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:42 PM
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Well they do to some. But yes, you’re right, modern Western women these days seem to usually want boys or women; there isn’t much desire for actual grown men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:30 PM
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Guess I’m a genetic marvel then, because I absolutely without a doubt look better now than I did in my early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:28 PM
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I never said mid-teens were “prime baby makers.” I said that’s when women were usually married. Prime pregnancy years are usually early to mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:28 PM
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You use a word like “historical” and then reference shit from only 100 years ago. That’s nothing from an historical perspective; that’s basically still modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:26 PM
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It’s not about what I want, it’s about how humans have historically organized society. If humans did things a certain way in most places and times, then there’s probably a reason for it. Get mad all you want, but you can’t change history.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:23 PM
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Tradition means quite a bit actually. If the majority of humans did something a certain way for most of history, there’s probably a good reason for it. And I would argue that there’s actually far more people today doing weird shit in the name of thumbing their nose at tradition. “Historically”? You realize there’s more to history than just the past century, right? Human civilization is about 10,000 years old, and Homo sapiens as a species is about 250,000 years old. I’m talking actual traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:21 PM
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What are you talking about? Can’t drink as much? Guess I’m a freak then because I can drink a lot more now than I ever could when I was in college. I used to get drunk off beer in college; now I drink exclusively liquor and can never get more than a buzz and I can’t remember the last time I had a hangover. “Athletic sex”? Tf are you doing that requires elite athleticism? I can’t pick up a woman and throw her against the wall? Are you being serious? I lift 3x/week and the weight I’m moving is sig…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:15 PM
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Literally almost all of them. Most 20yo dudes are skinny, poor, can’t dress well, and are often obnoxiously immature. All I know is I’m bigger, stronger, wealthier, and more mature now in my mid-30s than I was in my early 20s. I can drink more (I have more muscle mass), I’m better sexually because I’m more confident and experienced, and as far as staying out all night that’s never really been me, so that’s not an age issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:03 PM
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Hence why the male prime is 30s-40s, when they have the best combination of physical fitness and financial resources
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:55 PM
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Women are obviously more valuable from a societal perspective, but neither sex is superior; they’re complementary
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:59 PM
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This is such a weird take because any man who even halfway tries to take care of himself is going to be more attractive at 40 than he was at 20. All of my guy friends, and myself, absolutely look better in our mid-30s than we did in our early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:58 PM
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Why only extremes? What about a fit 40yo? Male prime is 30s-40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:56 PM
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A man who actually takes care of himself is almost guaranteed to be more attractive as he ages. I know that was certainly the case for me. Young men are more often than not pimply, skinny, poor, and don’t know how to dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:55 PM
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Men being less shitty would be an equally good start. I find it strange that we so often blame women for choosing shitty men, but never seem to talk about why so many men are such pieces of trash. It’s really not that difficult to be a decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:06 PM
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I agree completely. Modern Western culture is built on narcissism and immediate gratification. No relationship is ever going to be perfect, and they all take effort and commitment, but most people today don’t really seem interested in that. They want it all and they want it now and if they can’t have exactly what they want right now then they aren’t interested. This is why modern dating culture is so utterly fucked. People just jump from person to person, endlessly frustrated about not being abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 08:02 PM
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Hmm maybe because monogamy is the natural human desire, hence why you feel jealous when your monogamous relationship is threatened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:22 AM
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What? It’s not about closeness, it’s about the fact that it’s two completely different kinds of love. Also, siblings get jealous over parental attention all the time, so your entire premise is not only nonsensical but flawed. Plenty of children get neglected and ignored in favor of the “golden child” of the family. You don’t think the siblings feel jealousy when the golden child is showered with praise and affection while they get crumbs?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:21 AM
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We’re apes. We’re capable of the most heinous brutality and the most selfless sacrifice. Each of us has that potential inside of us, and how far we slide to one end or the other of that spectrum depends on both our choices and our experiences. Jealousy is advantageous because it is a check against injustice. If someone has more than you, it’s advantageous to be jealous because that jealousy motivates you to correct the imbalance. I can think of no better proof that monogamy is the natural norm t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:19 AM
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Because the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Most humans seem to naturally desire one partner. Not two, not three, not seven. Just one. Throughout history, across the world, humans seem to like pairing up. If they didn’t, then we would see plentiful examples of humans doing it a different way. But we don’t. We see a thimbleful of alternatives in an ocean of monogamous cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:13 AM
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Why can’t I argue that it’s natural? The vast majority of human cultures that we know of throughout history have practiced either monogamy or polygyny (harems). Thruples, polycules, group marriage, etc are extremely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:06 AM
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Why do you think both can’t exist simultaneously? Sex is an enjoyable act. I can have casual sex with someone while simultaneously desiring to be in a monogamous relationship. And when I’m in a monogamous relationship I no longer have casual sex, yet I can still find women other than my partner to be attractive. Cheating is a novelty precisely because monogamy is the norm. People want the stability and security of a monogamous relationship, but it’s not as if their natural urges go away. People …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:03 AM
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It happened to me once and ended up being the longest, most meaningful, and most complicated relationship I’ve had. However that was almost 15 years ago and I was in college, so it was significantly easier to meet people. As an adult in 2024 who works from home, such serendipitous encounters will be much less likely, if not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:47 AM
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Humans are naturally monogamous. We want to pair-bond. The current status quo is the way it is because that’s how the vast majority of people want it to be. Most mentally healthy adults have zero interest in being part of a thruple, polycule, etc. They just want a committed partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:16 PM
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Monogamy isn’t ubiquitous, but it sure is damn close
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:12 PM
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And yet it’s almost always the poly folks who won’t stfu about how awesome it is to be poly and how everyone else is oppressed by monogamy. Poly folks are some of the most obnoxious and smug people I’ve ever been around. If they’re so confident in the superiority of their lifestyle, they sure spend a lot of time loudly proclaiming to anyone within earshot how culturally advanced and ethically superior they are to rest of us dumbass peasants who are happy with monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:11 PM
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Jealousy is a natural human feeling. You’re never going to remove it, and it’s laughable that you would think it’s even possible, or desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:07 PM
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Cheating doesn’t disprove monogamy. Humans naturally want to pair up, yet we also seek novelty. Our romantic and sexual lives always have some level of tension because of this. Marriages ending doesn’t disprove monogamy either, since divorced people usually find a new monogamous partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:02 PM
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Because it’s childish hedonism. It’s people wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Not to mention, it almost never works out because humans are naturally jealous creatures. “No one seems wholly content with traditional monogamy” Really? Because the vast majority of humans alive today practice monogamy and don’t seem to have a problem with it. “Dysfunctional nuclear family” Yeah because adding even more people to the mix is sure to clear up any dysfunction, right? “The only issue that libfemi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:58 PM
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Idk a lot of people on this sub sure seem to imply it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:08 PM
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Sure but it’s just a generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:28 AM
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Exactly why the concept is complete BS. So many people use the “brain development” issue as a reason why younger women shouldn’t date older men, yet as you just illustrated, everyone’s brain develops differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:27 AM
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Oh cry me a river. Every single goddamn time there’s a post or a comment about a man having any sort of dating success, guys like you show up to whine about how it’s only because he was hot or a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:25 AM
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I’m so sick of the “brains keep developing until your mid 20s” BS. There is no cut-off where suddenly the brain is “fully developed.” Your brain is always changing, so what exactly counts as “fully developed”? Reminds me of how people talk about depression just being a “chemical imbalance” even though there has never been a single study to show that this is the case. I’m just so tired of simplistic popsci explanations for complex human phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:55 PM
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An ordinary man? Highly unlikely, given that the primary reason young women are usually attracted to older men is due to their ability to provide
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:23 PM
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This is one of the reasons why most human societies were patrimonial, where the wife went to live with the husband’s family. Women will always be on the lookout for something better (this is an ancient survival strategy baked into their genes), thus it’s a wise move to limit opportunities for temptation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:40 PM
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The part that makes you sound like a gold digger is your plan to “outsource” the housework. I want to be a provider and take care of a woman, but she has to still contribute somehow. I don’t believe either partner should simply get a free ride with no responsibilities at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:30 PM
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I just see children and adults. All these other distinctions are arbitrary and mostly superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:12 PM
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But why can’t two people create a life together just because they aren’t at the exact same stage of life experience? Have you not considered that many women prefer older men because they prefer men who have more experience and confidence, not to mention financial resources? Why is that so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:10 PM
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I think it just didn’t work because most relationships don’t work. Are you honestly going to argue that there are some sort of massive differences between a person in their mid-20s and a person in their mid-30s? I genuinely don’t understand this idea that people need to have the exact same life experiences or else they won’t be able to understand each other or have anything to talk about or have anything in common. There’s a 13-year age gap with the girl I’m dating now and we never run out of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:43 PM
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So men aren’t allowed to have preferences? Women in their 20s are more attractive and more fun to be around than older women, so why would I not be attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:37 PM
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This. Adulthood is adulthood. If you’re enough of an adult to buy a gun, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, join the military, rent/buy a home, etc, then you’re old enough to make your own romantic and sexual decisions. The idea that a 21yo grown woman lacks the ability to make her own dating decisions is utterly insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:34 PM
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No, but a laidback, carefree attitude sure is attractive. Younger women are just more fun to be around. In my experience, women 30+ tend to be too serious and boring
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:30 PM
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Irrelevant. Socially, a man’s value increases with age, while a woman’s declines. Fair or not, this is generally how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:28 PM
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Ah so now adulthood isn’t enough. Now they have to be “established” adults. Maybe we should just wait until women go through menopause. Maybe then they’ll have enough life experience to not allow themselves to fall victim to the manipulations of older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:26 PM
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I truly never can understand this mindset. What does “stage of life” matter, and why does it only seem to matter in romantic relationships? Do you have a problem with friends in different “stages of life”? I had friends in their 30s and 40s when I was in my 20s. Were they trying to control me or manipulate me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:24 PM
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You can work your ass off at anything and not see results. Effort does not guarantee success, but it does increase the likelihood of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:16 PM
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Yes but the problem is that many adult men make this the foundation of their personality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:12 PM
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Yet weirdly I’ve avoided these issues, so they’re certainly avoidable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:04 PM
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They’re not necessarily lining up for them, but they’re open to the possibility
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:03 PM
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To a degree, sure. But no amount of looks is going to salvage an ugly personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:58 PM
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The desire to pair-bond is extremely strong in most humans. It’s not really a stretch to say that being perpetually single isn’t life worth living. Missing out on a crucial aspect of human life is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:55 PM
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Most of the men on this sub think that the reason women aren’t attracted to them is because of their looks, but I’d bet just about anything that more often than not it’s because of their personality. Looks only gets your foot in the door, but personality is what seals the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 05:18 AM
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I’ve double-texted plenty of times. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:57 AM
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3k or 3 billion, what OP is saying still isn’t true. It’s not the majority of women on Earth, and it’s not the majority of women in his local dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:55 AM
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More experience with what? Women? I’ve got plenty, which is why I find this discussion laughable. My opinions are based on my actual lived experiences, unlike most of the guys on here whose only interactions with women seem to be when they rage-watch TikTok videos. Idk what other men are doing, but I don’t lie or conceal who I am early on. What would be the point in that? I’m myself from the jump; if she doesn’t like me that saves us both time and frustration. Why pretend I’m someone I’m not, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:58 PM
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I’m saying that clearly these women were not as interested in you as you think they were, because normal human beings don’t just snap and lose all interest in a person that they were just “abundantly interested in,” to use your phrasing. So either you’ve got a knack for attracting mentally-imbalanced women, or you’ve misjudged their initial attraction to you. You’ve also yet to provide an example of what you’re talking about. Give a concrete example of a time when a woman was “abundantly interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:51 PM
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That’s such a weird mindset to have. I’m in my mid-30s, people in college are typically in their early 20s. It’s a 10-15 year age difference. Do you honestly think people are that different just because there’s a decade or two between them? What could we have in common? Literally anything. The girl I’m dating now is in college, and we never run out of things to talk about. We share similar worldview and life goals, we read and discuss history and philosophy, and we simply just get along. We vibe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:17 PM
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We might actually get some interesting discussions then lol. That’s what so maddening about this sub; gender relations are a fascinating topic yet the discussions here almost never reflect that. PPD is basically just a circlejerk sub at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:06 PM
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No I’m not. If a woman abruptly leaves you over something nonsensical, she clearly wasn’t that interested to begin with. That’s just basic common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:47 PM
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Except it’s not. You’ve interacted with about 0.0001% of women on Earth. Stop making nonsensical generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:24 PM
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It really is baffling to me as a man, and one on the spectrum no less. These dudes will watch a few goofy TikTok videos and legit think these are the actual, completely serious beliefs of not only the woman making the video, but all women everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:21 PM
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Well then she couldn’t have been too interested in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:17 PM
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If a woman ghosts you because you texted “too fast/slow” or said something weird, that’s a sign she ain’t the one. Why would I ever want to be with someone that I had to walk on eggshells around? I don’t overthink texting and I say weird shit all the time. If that filters out a bunch of women, that’s a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:16 PM
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No, but I could argue that the parent receiving child support be required to accurately document how every dollar of child support is spent, and if they’re found to be using it on things not related to the child, they lose custody and it reverts to the other parent. Fathers should absolutely be required to support their children, not their ex-wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:29 PM
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Life expectancy is not lifespan.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:26 PM
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I would sooner disembowel myself with a butter knife than pretend that I’m in a relationship with lines of code
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:23 PM
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She can be, but why do we automatically assume that all men have evil intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:03 PM
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I was specifically referencing the part about dating older guys for security. As for your comment about the economy, ok bud, whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:03 PM
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What gender war?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:18 AM
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They aren’t doing it en masse, but it’s becoming more common, and will continue to as economic conditions deteriorate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:45 AM
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But why is that always the default? Why is the default assumption always that the older man is going to manipulate and harm the younger woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:44 AM
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But people in their 20s are not a monolith. Plenty of them are immature, and plenty of them are more mature than people twice their age. I have no desire to spend time with immature people of any age, but I’m not going to prejudge someone’s maturity solely because I’m older than them. When I was in college I had no problem interacting with people 30+, so as someone in my mid-30s now, why would I have any issues interacting with people in their early 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:37 AM
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Good luck with that 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:08 PM
5

You’re uhh, kind of forgetting climate chaos and overall ecological collapse. The Global South is screwed. Dating will be the least of their concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:36 PM
0

Well there isn’t going to be industrial civilization in 100 years so that’ll probably have a pretty big influence on things
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 07:24 PM
5

You only “disproved” me because you missed my point. I never said that multigenerational households weren’t the norm. I said that the nuclear family (M-F paid plus offspring) is the basic building block of human social organization. Everything else is built on top of that foundation. So yes, of course multigenerational households were the norm, and one of the worst aspects of modern Western society is the lack of them. But those multigenerational households were almost always headed by a father …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:06 AM
3

When did I say men weren’t expendable? Of course they are. Always have been. How does that invalidate my point though? Most societies were patrimonial. All the wealth and property passed from father to oldest son, with the others living as dependents. If oldest brother dies, it goes to the next oldest, and so on. So the nuclear family structure remains intact either way. Here’s a question: if the nuclear family isn’t the foundational unit of social organization, then what is? I’m not saying exte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:59 AM
5

Loyalty, honesty, makes her feel safe, willing to compromise and sacrifice, emotional support, provision of all her needs and wants, seeks her advice on important matters
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:51 AM
2

I’m more of a Bronze Age traditionalist than whatever this weird 1950s BS is about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:26 PM
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The nuclear family has always been how societies organize themselves. It is the basic unit of human social organization. Male and female pair-bond plus their offspring. Radiating outward, you’ve got extended family, then clan, then tribe. But the nuclear family was always the foundation. And before you even bother, yes, I know you can find specific examples to “prove me wrong,” but the few exceptions you’ll find only prove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 11:25 PM
3

I’m confused. Who is fucking OF girls? They can get 1000 dudes to each pay $10 for a photo of their tits; they don’t need to actually have sex with anyone for money
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:57 PM
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You didn’t do a good job of making your point clear then, because all I see is you claiming SAHWs have a “free ride” because cleaning a house isn’t as “hard” as medical school. Your argument seems to be that because it’s unskilled labor, it doesn’t count. As for what kind of house I’m living in, I don’t quite understand the question. I’m single and I live in a clean house because I keep it clean. And because I’m responsible for that, I understand how much work it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:42 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with being dependent on others. We are a social species; we’re supposed to depend on each other. The cult of individuality and “independence” is a modern Western invention. I would be dependent on my wife, and she would be dependent on me. Growing up, I was dependent on my parents, and one day if I have kids, they’ll be dependent on me. In a truly traditional life (not some weird 1950s re-run), everyone in the village is dependent on everyone else. Narcissism has made peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:38 PM
-1

Who gives a shit about how “skilled” a specific task is? Is the task important? That’s all that matters. If you want a clean house, that takes hard work, and you should respect the person doing the work. How much “skill” it requires doesn’t matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:25 PM
1

So just to be clear: you don’t have a problem with women cleaning up after others, you just don’t want to be the one to have to do it. You don’t have any problem with people being “under” you, but you don’t want to be “under” anyone else. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:23 PM
14

It’s also a huge incentive to shitpost and create clickbait
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:29 PM
2

Exactly. You realize how much crazy shit I say online? My internet self is a caricature of my real self. So why take it so seriously? They’re just playing a character; we all are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:27 PM
6

Don’t forget to like and subscribe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:24 PM
3

You seriously think being a housewife is a “free ride” or are you just trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:47 PM
-1

All part of the plan. Corporate America is the #1 enemy of traditional families. Slowly break down large families into competing individuals, alienate them from each other and society, feed them processed garbage that fucks with their hormones and neurotransmitters, make them entirely dependent on their job for survival, and then force-feed them a 24/7/365 stream of media that says that this is true “freedom.” That is how you create modern slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:46 PM
1

Modern western women are utterly deranged
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:41 PM
1

I’m curious about women who say that: do you clean up after yourself? Because this idea that being a housewife = being a maid is a strange way to look at it, since you’re already cooking and cleaning when you’re single. Are you so resentful about being your own maid, or only when you’re cooking and cleaning for someone else? Or do you just live like a slob when you’re single, but then criticize single men for being the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:40 PM
2

That doesn’t make any logical sense though. You have nothing against women selling their bodies, but you have a problem with men buying? Takes two to tango.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:30 PM
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Correct. This is why people like me argue that slavery never ended, but was instead extended to the entire population and given better PR. Exactly how are you “free” when your boss controls your daily schedule and can fire you at any time for any reason? You’re wholly dependent on this person for your livelihood, and if they decide they no longer need or want you, you’re back to square one. Yet somehow some women legitimately have come to believe that this is a superior arrangement to having a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:29 PM
23

Yours is just as “TV”, except it’s a Netflix show about a bunch of horny queer art students
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:20 PM
4

I honestly think it’s equivalent to jerking off. Without any kind of prior connection with the person, how could it really be anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:17 PM
9

Correct. They’re designed to drive engagement. It’s 2024. Do you seriously not understand how social media operates?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:02 PM
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It’s incredible how many men on here are utterly incapable of recognizing a joke. They’ll watch some goofy video by some random girl and literally think she’s being 100% serious and is expressing the views of women everywhere. It’s a really strange phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:01 PM
5

You think people are more honest online? What world are you living in?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:00 PM
-1

Anyone who isn’t a teenager keeps repeating this because it’s the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:59 PM
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And most TikTok videos are designed to drive engagement. You think these “creators” even believe half the shit they say? They just want clicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:58 PM
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Mystery is alluring. This affects both sexes though. I find winter clothes on women to be sexier because there’s the “mystery” of what’s underneath. Most women are typically more socially-oriented in their thinking, so the “mystery” they want to figure out is the man’s life story. From where he’s been, they try to deduce where he’s going, and how they might fit into it. Detective work is a good comparison; I don’t think it’s a coincidence that most women love true crime shows. It makes sense tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:48 AM
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As a lonely man who isn’t bitter nor entitled, I’m here to tell you that you’re an asshole. You know nothing of my life, nor the lives of any of the lonely men on here, yet you’re quick to write judgmental paragraphs on how we’re the cause of our own suffering. You can take that bullshit victim-blaming and shove it. Why am I lonely? Well, I’m the only child of two older, conservative parents, one of whom was an abusive narcissist and the other an enabler. I barely got to know any of my extended …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:01 PM
0

Why would you expect kindness to help you with dating? Kindness is the bare minimum. It’s like whining that women aren’t all over you because you showered today. You want a cookie because you did the bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:47 PM
1

As with literally everything else, it depends on the woman. Some prioritize looks, some prioritize wealth, some prioritize social status, some prioritize personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:45 PM
1

Unsurprisingly, the sub full of young men lacking self-confidence doesn’t understand what confidence actually is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:42 PM
1

Honestly, trust your gut. If you know your partner, you’ll know when something isn’t quite right. There were a couple times in a past relationship where I suspected cheating based off nothing except my gut instinct, but I didn’t confront her as I had no evidence. Years later I found out my gut had been correct. Trust your gut.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:20 PM
1

No it’s not. You’re just viewing “dominant/submissive” superficially. Submissive =/= slave. Submissiveness is a way of interacting with/relating to another person. It does not mean the sub gives up all of their autonomy. And whatever autonomy they do give up, it’s their choice to do so, hence confirming their autonomy. I feel like that’s what so many people on here don’t seem to understand. No one is saying women should be forced to be submissive. Literally the last thing I would want is a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:03 PM
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Modern Western women won’t want to hear it, but your concerns are valid and it’s a completely appropriate boundary to set. Even if she genuinely has zero intention of ever cheating on you, repeatedly putting herself in situations where it could happen just isn’t a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:52 AM
1

What’s actually the difference though? I’m honestly curious because so many guys on here are very obsessive about the whole AF/BB thing. If she’s with me and I’m happy with her, why would I care about being “alpha” vs “beta”? The label doesn’t affect my objective reality, so what does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:08 PM
0

According to some guys in this sub I am, because I’m a provider. But I only go for younger women, so idk how that factors into the whole alpha-beta mythology
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:29 AM
1

Of course. We’re here for one thing and one thing only: procreation. That’s what drives everything that men do, whether they even realize it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:32 PM
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Even if that were the sole factor, it’s not as if men aren’t making similar calculations based on their own life experiences and timelines. Being a human is hard and no one knows wtf they’re doing for the first couple decades. Then by the time they start to figure it out, they’re in their 30s. It’s not some conspiracy by women to be assholes toward men, it’s just humans being human. It takes them awhile to figure out what they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:43 AM
1

Oh for sure, I don’t deny that at all. There’s nothing like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:25 AM
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I always love that it’s her “settling” and not her maturing and realizing what she actually wants in a man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:05 PM
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I think you have it backwards. True love is built over time. What you seem to be describing are crushes and honeymoon periods, which are always going to feel more “special” when you’re young because the feelings are new. Were you really creating that strong of a bond with your gf when you were a teen? Were you really willing to sacrifice more? At the time, it sure felt that way, but how things feel and how they are can have a wide gulf between them, and youthful brains can’t always tell the diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:13 PM
3

We don’t want to raise fertility rates though. Human overpopulation is the greatest problem facing the world today. We need less humans, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:25 PM
1

This is the only correct answer, which makes sense since it’s actually a sourced definition. Everything else the two of you are going back and forth on is either factually wrong or irrelevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:47 PM
1

How tf is a single mom “by default a whore”?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:45 PM
2

Yes, but it’s not so much appearance as overall vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:43 PM
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Tbh it’s not even unfair. It’s just the way it is. A man has to prove himself to a woman one way or another. If it’s not looks (which is usually a way to determine health/good genes) then it’s wealth/access to resources. Men with neither tend to get outcompeted, which means natural selection is working.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:36 PM
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But that’s the difference. Your money spent is an investment in a possible relationship with her. That’s your buy-in. She doesn’t need to buy-in. She doesn’t need to invest anything in you, because she has a line of twenty dudes waiting for her if you can’t close the deal. Women have value, men don’t. This is why men compete over women, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:33 PM
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This is what all the whiny “how dare she expect me to pay” guys on here don’t seem to understand. Either compete or don’t. They expect attractive women to give them attention for literally nothing, it’s so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:19 AM
4

Maybe she just wants to live more traditionally. Why do you feel the need to insult her just because she chooses to live a different way than you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:16 AM
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Yeah because today’s society is so happy and healthy and our male-female relations are going so well 🙄 Half the population is obese, on multiple medications, self-medicating, or all three. And all everyone does is whine incessantly about how hard it is to find a good man/woman. And when they do get in relationships, they immediately stick one foot out the door and leave the moment things get difficult. Because everyone deserves the best right? YOLO! No one should ever have to compromise or settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:13 AM
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100% I do, but that’s because I believe traditional gender roles are a positive for both individuals and society. Humans thrive with predictability and structure, which roles provide (this goes for any type of social role btw, not just gender). Unlimited autonomy, the freedom to “be whoever you want to be” sounds great in theory, but it will never lead to individual contentment nor societal stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 02:04 AM
0

Money lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:39 PM
4

I exclusively date one at a time. Unfortunately this has become a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:58 PM
1

Why can guys like you not accept that your shitty individual experiences with women are not universal? Why is it so hard for you to accept that maybe you just need to pick better women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:56 PM
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I’m lying to myself that I haven’t experienced any negative consequences for being emotionally open and vulnerable? So now you claim to be able to see inside not only the minds of every woman, but me as well? Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:18 PM
1

You seen the economy lately? Sorry, but no. The average man cannot support a family on only his income.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:51 PM
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Yes, the woman has to rely on the man. And guess what? The man relies on the woman too! That’s what a partnership is, the joining of two different individuals into one whole that is greater than the sum of its parts. I take care of her, she takes care of me. We do it in different ways, but both are equally important. Also, submission does not equate to being powerless. Submission is a way of being, a way of relating to another. But it does not mean the person is a doormat with no rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:50 PM
1

Does the woman not have hobbies? Friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:43 PM
-2

No wonder women have such a low opinion of men these days
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:42 PM
6

I’m a traditionally-minded man who enjoys being a provider. It makes me feel good to know that the woman I care about doesn’t have to stress about money. I’d much prefer that she spend her time on her hobbies and her health (and me!) than having to work some bullshit underpaid job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:40 PM
2

I guess I’ve just been incredibly lucky in my 35 years of life then. I’m very open with my emotions, I’ve cried in front of female friends and gf’s before, and I’ve never had any negative consequences from it. Hence why I’m so baffled by these posts, they just make no sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:32 PM
1

How am I denying human nature exactly? You’re denying basic psychology if you don’t understand that being vulnerable strengthens bonds between two people. I’ve yet to suffer any negative consequences for being vulnerable, but I guess mentioning that means I’m virtue signaling?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:22 AM
1

I just be myself and I let the chips fall where they may. I don’t waste my time obsessing over what other people think of me. If I meet a woman who doesn’t like me because I’m a human being who is open with my emotions, then that’s her problem. Why tf would I be upset that some uptight bitch isn’t attracted to me? I don’t want someone like that in my life. But in my personal experience, I’ve yet to meet a woman, either friend or girlfriend, who treated me poorly because I was emotionally open wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:20 PM
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Why do guys on here keep insisting that women want 24/7/365 emotionless robots? Thats not true, never has been true, and never will be true. You and your brother are self-sabotaging and then making up excuses after the fact with all of this “oh I had to break up with her bro, my past is just too dark, she’ll break up with me as soon as I show any emotion, I better end things now” bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:55 PM
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Right? I love all the dudes on here going on and on about stoicism like they’re Marcus Aurelius, when all they’ve done is watch a few videos by some loudmouth moron on YouTube
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:50 PM
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No, they’re not. Pick better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:48 PM
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That’s such a childish and superficial view of arranged marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:33 PM
2

Of course our minds are clouded by sexual urges all the time. Our only purpose in life is to create more life, so naturally our brains are wired to be hyperfocused on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:47 PM
1

Well it’s kind of a chicken-and-egg situation we’ve got here. Are men refusing to commit because they don’t want to commit, or because they see that few women want to commit, so they don’t even bother? Think of all the young women these days happily offering themselves up as fuck buddies, and claiming that this is “sexual liberation.” Yay, women can now fuck for fun, consequence-free! Yet the average dude sees a woman like this and thinks, “hmm, well I clearly can’t count on her ever actually co…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:55 PM
1

Women used to get those things. They used to be happier. But nowadays, why would a man give those things when he’s fairly certain she’ll leave him as soon as she spots a guy who she thinks is slightly better? That’s the problem with giving women unlimited sexual freedom: they almost never want to commit because they’re filled with FOMO that somewhere out there, there might be a better guy for her. I would walk to the ends of the Earth for a woman who truly committed herself to me. My primary foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:18 PM
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Are you implying that there isn’t a small group of people today who have that same power? People aren’t any more “free” today than they were 50 years ago or 500 or 5,000. We’re still tightly controlled by a tiny cadre of unaccountable elites. There’s just more and better distractions to keep people from realizing that it’s the same shit it’s always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:55 PM
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To clarify, perhaps “manipulate” wasn’t the best word choice on my part, as I wasn’t implying anything negative. More like, “influence subtly.” The point I was getting at was that submissive women can still be equal partners; it just won’t look like standard Western visions of an “equal partnership.” The woman would be exercising her power/influence in subtle ways that might not be obvious to outside observers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:52 PM
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Feisty and submissive aren’t mutually exclusive traits though. For me that’s actually the ideal combo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:48 PM
3

Why would any guy want a dominant woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:25 PM
4

I would say the problem of rose-tinted glasses is far worse when it comes to the present day. People like you legit think that because they have internet and 17 brands of toothpaste that their lives are infinitely better than any that came before them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:20 PM
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This is something that most of modern women don’t seem to understand. Men are incredibly easy to manipulate. Make him feel desired, make him feel strong, make him feel needed, and you’ll have him completely wrapped around your little finger. In any legitimate D/s situation, whether just in the bedroom or a 24/7 lifestyle, the submissive one is always the one with the real power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:17 PM
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You have a very childish and superficial understanding of what submission means. Though tbf, most men have a very childish and superficial understanding of what dominance means, so I can understand why you think the way you do. Shitty dudes unfortunately always ruin things for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:06 PM
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Western values are built on individualism. In the West, people, including women, are raised to believe that their personal wellbeing is of the utmost importance. This of course leads to selfishness and narcissism, as individuals become increasingly concerned with nothing except their immediate gratification. They want to feel good and they want to feel good now, and they don’t really give a damn about the consequences. In non-Western cultures, maintaining harmony and stability within society is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:02 PM
0

Population decrease is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 03:47 PM
9

It’s almost as if “alpha” and “beta” are completely bullshit terms with no real basis in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:12 PM
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Can we please start banning posts that are based on some random video someone saw somewhere? How many more of these do we need? Literally no one gives a shit what random online attention whores say or do, and they certainly aren’t an accurate representation of real life. Why oh why do so many people on here (usually guys) insist on using random TikTok videos or Twitch streams as “proof” of anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:52 PM
5

No one wants to have sex with a goddamn robot, and even if they did, do you think the average person would be able to afford one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 08:19 PM
1

Because it’s something they can’t have. Or at least couldn’t, since power was based on brute force for most of human existence. By attaching herself to a powerful man, now she can reap the benefits of power, without actually having any herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:00 PM
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Women are attracted to power. In a monetized society, money = power. Pre-money, power came through a combination of brute strength and social alliances. That’s why big, strong men with high social status are attractive to women. But nowadays, raw physical strength and social influence are no longer enough. To get what you want in today’s world, you need money. Men who have more money get more of what they want, which is a form of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:57 PM
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My social circle used to be entirely progressive feminist types and I literally never once heard anyone talk about this. It seems you’re doing exactly what OP mentioned: taking random shit you heard online and extrapolating it out to apply to an entire group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:31 PM
1

I’m not sure what you mean. The modern world bombards us with near-infinite options on almost every conceivable choice we have to make, from the mundane to the life-changing, whether we’re choosing a toothpaste or a life partner. None of us can escape the negative effects of having too many choices, which is why this is a systemic societal issue, not one of individual responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:26 PM
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Yes you can, because they’re two entirely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:19 PM
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Because women get pregnant, men don’t. The stakes are significantly higher for women. At worst, a man will have to pay a few hundred a month in child support. He will never have to actually be pregnant, carrying a growing fetus inside his body for nine months, and then have to give birth. Pregnancy and birth come with all sorts of potential health risks, including death. Thousands of women literally die every year in this country from childbirth. Forcing woman to stay pregnant is a potential dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:18 PM
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The good news is that the shitty men who think this way probably aren’t getting laid to begin with, so the problem kind of solves itself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:13 PM
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Correct. Too much choice leads to unhappiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:08 AM
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For the vast majority of human history, across just about every culture, there were rules governing male-female relations, sometimes very strict and detailed rules. We could even rightly call them “protective measures.” They were meant to maintain trust and respect between both parties by governing behavior, to avoid any appearances of infidelity. Only in this weird, brief aberration in history that we’re currently living in do people believe that blind faith is somehow a good thing. It doesn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:34 AM
1

Attention can be addicting for humans
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 05:15 PM
2

I definitely struggle with it. If a woman I’m interested in presents herself as a Madonna, it can be difficult for me to feel sexual feelings for her, regardless of how physically attractive she is. It’s almost like my affection for her becomes more fatherly in nature. Conversely, it’s almost impossible for me to feel any romantic or affectionate feelings for women who present as Whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:31 PM
3

So what if it’s “socially unacceptable”? As long as you’re not hurting anyone, do whatever feels right to you and stop worrying about what society thinks. Society is usually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:01 PM
-1

Yes because word-of-mouth info on the internet is so reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:53 PM
3

It literally happens all the time, what are you talking about? Stop giving credence to overly-online prudes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:51 PM
3

You’re both adults. Why would it be “inappropriate”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 03:50 PM
1

Since when is Elon considered good-looking? Dude is ugly af, fat, and I highly doubt he’s 6’2”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:29 PM
0

“It’s biology” 🙄😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 07:00 PM
1

Blatantly untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:59 PM
2

Exactly. I don’t understand all these men on here who are so sad about some trashy girl losing interest in them because they showed vulnerability. That’s a good thing. Let the trash take itself out. Why would they ever want such a woman in their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:57 PM
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I mean let’s be real, the only reason Elon isn’t a literal incel is because he’s rich. If he never stole other people’s ideas and used his daddy’s wealth to fund his little business ventures, most women wouldn’t go near him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:56 PM
-1

Showing vulnerability is literally the opposite of being weak. Why do so many men on here struggle to understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:54 PM
1

I’ve had the completely opposite experience. I’m always open with my thoughts and feelings, and I’ve never felt judged or criticized by a woman for showing vulnerability. And if I ever am, that’s their problem. If a woman is going to judge me for being a human, then I’m not really interested in having her in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:51 PM
3

The solution is to return to a more traditional way of doing things, but no one wants to hear that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:46 PM
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Most men today are cowards, which is why the few men who aren’t are so attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 06:44 PM
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Most humans are pretty much the same. This isn’t a male vs female issue
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:10 PM
4

OP really needs a history lesson
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:00 PM
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Because there’s nothing wrong with being autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:53 PM
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More choices, less satisfaction
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:28 PM
1

Turns out living your entire life online stunts your social development, who woulda thought
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:22 PM
3

The problems began with agriculture and civilization, accelerated with the Industrial Revolution, and went into overdrive with the advent of the Internet
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:21 PM
1

Money brings power. Power is sexually attractive to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:54 PM
1

Spoken by someone who clearly has no idea what they’re taking about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:48 PM
1

Way to judge something you know nothing about 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:47 PM
3

Why do you keep making these nonsensical posts? You don’t have a bunch of “supermodel gorgeous” friends with “stellar personalities” who are getting “constantly shot down.” Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:45 PM
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I tend to live frugally, dress simply, drive an old car, etc., so at first glance no one would ever guess my net worth. But what always gives it away is that I don’t work yet can afford to do whatever I want. Also, sugar dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 03:07 PM
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“I don’t hate men, I just don’t like anything about them and don’t want them near me and I make broad negative generalizations about them based on nothing”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:46 PM
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Can’t reply to the mod directly but how is me calling them a narcissist bad, but not them telling me to “peddle my foreign bullshit elsewhere”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:45 PM
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Attraction is of course dynamic, but I think it’s untrue to claim that relationship issues primarily affect female sexual attraction. It goes both ways. This idea that all men are just mindless sex robots who care about nothing else is based on ridiculous stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:43 PM
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Thanks for taking me literally. You know what I mean. To survive in this world, individuals need to work, unless they have independent wealth. It used to just be that men had to work, while women were financially taken care of by their fathers and then husbands. Nowadays, women are expected to work and provide for themselves, and those that don’t want to are often shamed by men as well as other women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:38 PM
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But why do you assume that’s what he’ll become?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:36 PM
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Well technically with my future plans I’ll also be SAH, but either way I’d be looking for a SAHW. Also, kind of a weird statement you made about raising children. How much effort parents put in absolutely determines how happy and healthy the child is. How could it not? And a downright hilarious statement about jobs. Are you really so naive to actually believe that effort is “always rewarded”? Because that’s just not even remotely true. And most people can’t just “change jobs,” at least not in te…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:33 PM
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No one gives a shit what you said because you’re literally just making stuff up. Damn near every guy on here has told you you’re wrong, yet you continue to insist that you somehow know better. No one gives a shit about your “supermodel friends.” You wanna know why they got rejected? Probably because they’re as fucking annoying as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:51 PM
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Blatantly untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:47 PM
3

You’re literally just making things up, like wtf is wrong with you? You’re not a man and you clearly have rarely if ever interacted with men, given the utterly insane things you’re saying about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:45 PM
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Ah so this actually has nothing to do with men at all then. It’s not about men being uncomfortable, it’s about you being uncomfortable. Your “supermodel friend” got rejected, so now you’re making up excuses not to approach men because you’re afraid of also getting rejected. How about you work on your own issues and insecurities rather than making nonsensical generalizations about half the world’s population?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:44 PM
3

We all “settle.” There is no such thing as a perfect partner. Relationships are about sacrifice and compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:40 PM
3

This is just blatantly untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:36 PM
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But why are you assuming he will be disrespectful and abusive? Why is that always the assumption? Why can women never assume the best outcome instead of the worst? I honestly never used to believe it when men would say shit like, “women despise men,” but now I’m really starting to understand it. Your default state seems to be to assume that every man is an abusive asshole looking for a sex slave. You can’t fathom that most men just want a loyal and affectionate partner to build a nice life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:05 PM
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Well first of all, why is she just “swan[ning] off to Montana” on her own for a week? But secondly, why do you assume SAHW = slavery? Thats why I refer to so many of you as dramatic. You literally have convinced yourselves that SAHWs are forced to surrender their basic human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:56 PM
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For women who don’t like leaving the home, what is the upside? Why should women be forced to work? Ambitious bourgeois women are who drove feminism and women’s “liberation.” The average woman had little interest in it and still doesn’t. Yet now she’s forced to go out and get a job whether she wants to or not. How exactly is that fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:53 PM
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Lol what are you on? You have no control over those things. You can’t just get another job. At least not a good one. If so, why are so many people unemployed? Why are so many people overworked and underpaid? The only reason you have this mindset is that you’re a privileged modern bourgeois woman who has never known a life where she wasn’t progressing. The thought has never even crossed your mind that you might not be able to just magically level up whenever you feel like it. But guess what? Most…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:44 PM
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Because mindless growth is what drives cancer. Progress for the sake of progress is not a good thing. Striving never leads to actual happiness; it’s a treadmill. And in fact, it usually leads to terrible things. See: agriculture, civilization, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:33 PM
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My issue is that she’s opposed specifically to a “forced marriage.” Not bad marriage. She never mentioned the quality of the man. He could be kind, respectful, generous, intelligent, handsome, and affectionate. Then what? Would that really be the worst thing that could happen to a woman? Being married to a quality man? Hence why I said she’s being dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:31 PM
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But OP said you’re free to choose the man in this scenario, so I assume you’d choose one you’re attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:04 PM
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Psychologically damaged individuals, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:00 PM
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What are you talking about? You don’t control whether or not you stay employed, your boss does. You can be fired for pretty much any reason at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:59 PM
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So dramatic. You can’t imagine much worse than arranged marriage? I’d say you’ve lived a pretty damn privileged life if that’s the worst thing your brain can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:58 PM
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The result of your labor is a happy and healthy household, taking care of the people you love. There’s literally nothing more valuable than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:56 PM
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Believe it or not, SAHW’s are allowed to leave the house
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:55 PM
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Why must you “build towards anything”? Modern culture has damaged people’s brains so much, making you think you always have to be striving and doing and achieving. How about just slow down and enjoy life?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:54 PM
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I just find it interesting that as women have been encouraged by society over the last few decades to become more masculine, there is now a growing subset of men who literally want to become women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:37 AM
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I’m just not afraid of bodily functions and normal human behaviors. There’s nothing wrong or shameful about sex. Like oh no, some woman was touching herself on the beach! What a tragedy! What a crime! I am so hurt, so victimized, so violated! Oh whatever will I do?! How can I recover from seeing a woman pleasure herself?! I am scarred for life!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:38 PM
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That video is a great illustration of why I only date younger women. Women over 30 tend to be bitter and obnoxious, always looking for a reason to be upset about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:26 PM
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If he’s single and makes $200k/yr he can absolutely afford to buy a house. $200k/yr is an impressive income pretty much anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:27 PM
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I’m the same way. I honestly don’t understand how anyone has the patience for all the nonsensical games we’re told we have to play
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:41 PM
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Modern society has taught us all to be egotistical, self-absorbed narcissists who think that sacrificing or compromising or showing any kind of vulnerability with anyone is the worst possible thing you could do
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:38 PM
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Are you actually going to try to argue that rape is a “rare occurrence”? Or that the men who do it always go to the prison? Because both of those statements have absolutely zero basis in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:28 PM
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I’ve been alive for over three decades, I’ve had hookups, I’ve been in relationships, and I’ve never once been concerned about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:24 PM
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I would say my ideal is a confident, clever, capable woman who willingly takes on a submissive role. I enjoy being in a dominant role and feeling needed, but also genuinely want an equal partner and someone who isn’t going to fall apart without me. This type of woman is definitely a unicorn in today’s world though, and I’ve only ever met one who I felt truly fit what I’m describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:47 PM
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“Mutilates her body” 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:31 PM
1

The unwilling observers can look away or relocate. They’re not being preyed upon. Stop being such a dramatic puritan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:04 PM
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But it’s not predatory. Who is she preying on? Predators prey on someone. A woman lying on a beach blanket touching herself isn’t preying on anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:03 PM
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Untrue. I always go for quality over quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:22 PM
3

This is the correct answer. It’s crazy how so few men on here seem to understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:20 PM
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Let’s all be selfish, lying assholes to each other and care only about our own immediate gratification, yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:09 PM
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Struggling together is quite literally the best possible way to form a bond between two or more humans. Shared suffering, and shared attempts to relieve that suffering, connects humans in a way nothing else really can.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:45 PM
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Nah, most people are just people. Not particularly good or bad, just goofy apes wandering around not really knowing what to do with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:42 PM
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The Cult of Individualism has ruined just about everything in society, and it does so because it pushes humans to act in unnatural ways. We are a social species. A highly social species. Prolonged loneliness literally destroys our bodies and minds. We need others, yet individualism tells us that is wrong. Individualism teaches us that all we need is ourselves, and that if we need anyone else, that’s a personal failing. It teaches us to always prioritize our own needs and wants, every time, no ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:39 PM
2

You do realize that every traditional woman was single at some point, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:28 PM
2

Well now you’re moving the goalposts. What counts as “some form of intimacy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:26 PM
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Of course, there’s platonic love and there’s romantic love. You can also feel sexual attraction but not be romantically in love with someone. So just because you wanted to “jump your partner’s bones” at first sight doesn’t mean you were in love at first sight. It means you saw someone who you really wanted to fuck. How can you not see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:25 PM
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So you manipulated her into having sex with you and you think that’s equivalent to love? You committed and sacrificed for your own sexual gratification. That is not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:22 PM
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Sexual attraction is based on more than just physical appearance though, so that kind of undermines your entire point. As I become more emotionally connected to a woman, I tend to become more sexually attracted to her. Her physical appearance hasn’t changed, yet I find her more sexually attractive. Why do you think the same can’t be true for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:20 PM
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Exactly, well said. I honestly would never want to just jump into bed with a woman that I’m interested in starting a relationship with. I want to get to know her and build an actual connection first. Three dates is never going to be enough time to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:24 PM
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Just because you have little to no experience with women doesn’t mean that’s the case for the rest of us. It is absolutely possible for women to develop attraction to a man, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:20 PM
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If she won’t have sex with you on date 2, then you’ll have to forever beg for sex if you get in a relationship with her? Absolutely childish take.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:17 PM
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Desire isn’t love. Yes, desire is stronger at the beginning. But love grows over time. It is something that is built.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:09 PM
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That’s sexual attraction. Do you really not understand the difference between sexual attraction and love?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:52 PM
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Sexual attraction is sexual attraction. Infatuation is infatuation. Love is love. They are all different feelings. Can they be linked? Of course. But just because young people mistake sexual attraction/infatuation for love doesn’t make it love. Love involves commitment and sacrifice. Infatuation doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:51 PM
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Why is BDSM catching strays?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:41 AM
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Are you seriously asking if it’s a good idea to make your partner feel insecure? It’s your partner. Do you love and care about this person? If so, then why tf would you ever play bullshit mind games with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:32 PM
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I never said confidence was all it takes. I said it’s the key to success. It’s what brings it all together and provides a foundation to build upon. If you’re constantly second-guessing yourself, doubting your abilities, questioning your goals, worrying about what others think, etc, it’s going to be extremely difficult to succeed at anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:27 PM
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The way you described it sounds a lot more like horniness at first sight. We all have that. True love is something that is built over time. How could you possibly love someone you literally just met?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:21 PM
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But that isn’t happening. TikTok isn’t real life. Women aren’t constantly doing any of what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:17 PM
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Just the entire Type A personality is off-putting to me. “Ambitious” people are almost always obnoxious narcissists who have the wrong priorities in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:56 PM
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The two are intertwined. Competence both requires and builds confidence. There’s definitely some early “fake it til you make it” involved, but once someone starts to develop competency in certain areas, their confidence can quickly increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:43 PM
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It’s the number one problem with modern dating. Everyone seems to think that if they don’t immediately “feel it” right away with someone, then on to the next. But there’s no such thing as love at first sight. Romantic attraction builds over time through repeated and consistent interactions between a man and woman who enjoy spending time together and gradually open up and become more comfortable around each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:40 PM
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Who cares? If we’re getting along and she likes me now, that’s all that really matters. And tbh I wouldn’t be surprised, as I’m a lot better in person than an online profile
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:35 PM
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Confidence is the key to success in life. Sure, some people just stumble into it. But most successful people (no matter how you measure “success”) are successful because of their confidence. People confuse narcissism with confidence, but that doesn’t mean confidence isn’t or shouldn’t be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:41 AM
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Confidence comes from competence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:38 AM
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You realize women can have those too? Maybe some of these sexless marriages are because the husbands aren’t doing a good enough job of pleasing their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 05:12 AM
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My goodness that woman’s entire personality was so utterly off-putting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:53 PM
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No need to tell on yourself that you’ve never been physically close to a woman. Any man who has can absolutely tell when a woman is wearing makeup, false lashes, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:24 PM
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Local man discovers makeup alters women’s appearances, news at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:22 PM
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Emotions, instincts, and past experiences are ultimately what we use to make our decisions. There’s no such thing as “rationality.”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:27 PM
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Would I partake in rape? No. Do I understand why it happens and the biological basis for it? Yes. And why wouldn’t I want to hear about harems? That’s also perfectly natural. As long as everyone is consenting, what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:04 PM
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I just don’t view romantic and sexual relationships as some kind of carefully-planned business transaction, which is the vibe you’re giving off with all these rules and limits and timelines. If me and a woman like each other and both feel like we want to be exclusive, then that’s what we do. And if it doesn’t work out, then we break up. I guess I just don’t see the downside to making her my gf after 3-6 months. Like where’s the negative for me? That we might break up? Most relationships end. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:01 PM
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He’s talking about being his gf, not his wife. No wedding plans involved. Obviously vetting for a wife takes more time than vetting for a gf. Modern dating is literally vetting for a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:11 AM
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I don’t get your point. He’s talking about vetting for a gf, not a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:10 AM
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I didn’t realize “official” meant living with each other. I suppose I better understand your caution in that regard then. Dealing with those kind of breakups are for sure a pain in the ass. Though I still think it’s completely possible to vet someone for that in under 1.5 years. I don’t want anyone begging to be my gf though. That honestly sounds uncomfortable, even if you don’t mean it literally. Either we’re compatible or not. If we both want to be together, that’s what we do. If not, we don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:08 AM
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They’re the dark mirror of confidence and charisma. I understand being fooled by it a few times, but there are a lot of women who seem to end up with the exact same shitty guy time after time after time. At some point shouldn’t we expect women to have to learn to differentiate between confidence and arrogance, between charisma and narcissism?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:57 AM
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So what if she’s “putting on an act”? Then you break up with her. She’s a gf not a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:52 AM
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His example was girlfriend, and there’s no way in hell you need to vet a possible gf for 18 months. As for marriage, a few years seems reasonable. How much more time would you need?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:45 AM
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I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:40 AM
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Never said people don’t lie or manipulate. I said it’s usually pretty easy to spot these people early on. Perhaps it’s an experience thing. I’ve had my run-ins with abusers and narcissists, and now the signs are obvious. But no need to purposely be cold or ruthless to others who haven’t done anything to you was my main point. I agree with you that men also need to do better. They’re just as bad at it, judging by the posts on here. And I’m not saying blame the victim, but if a person has a histor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:38 AM
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That’s why I specified “health and fertility.” The aspects of the female body that are typically associated with attractiveness are also associated with good health. To say that “every culture” had such fertility statues is completely untrue. Even if they did, have you not considered that exaggeration was a common feature in all forms of ancient art? Furthermore, that “big belly” is most likely representative of pregnancy. Petite young women still get big pregnancy bellies, and their breasts usu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:32 AM
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This 100%. Any success I’ve had with women is because I’ve embraced my “differentness” rather than try to hide it. Authenticity is attractive, and it filters out people who ultimately wouldn’t be good for you anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:54 AM
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I suck at vetting because it doesn’t take me a year and a half?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:48 AM
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But “young and hot” is directly linked to biology. Men desire “young and hot” women because those women tend to show the physical signs of fertility and health. A “hot” woman is just a woman with a healthy and fit body that looks ready and able for reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:48 PM
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Or just get better at reading people? You don’t have to be “ruthless” and “cold” in order to be better at spotting abusers and narcissists. Literally just pay attention and use basic common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:29 PM
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The term is new but the action itself is as old as time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:28 PM
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The “partial girlfriend treatment” 😂 Dude what are you on? Either commit or don’t, but stringing it along for over a year while you hem and haw is ridiculous. What woman is ever going to stick around that long waiting for you to make up your mind on whether or not she deserves more than the “partial gf treatment”?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:21 PM
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Absolutely ridiculous statement about “real men.” I would argue that “real men” should know how to vet somebody. How tf does it take you a year and a half?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:18 PM
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Most shitty men are just so damn easy to spot imo, but maybe being a guy helps me see it faster. Throughout my life I’ve always had close female friends, and I can’t tell you how many times they’ve asked for my opinion of a guy they’re dating, only to get upset when I tell them he’s a loser, only to then hear a few months later how I was right. And what did I use to make my judgments? Usually nothing more than a quick browsing of his social media. How people choose to display themselves online t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:16 PM
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Why does the simple word “traditional” cause so many people to absolutely lose their minds and imagine the most extreme possible outcomes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 01:12 AM
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How is it any different? You literally just said the quality of all types of relationships is worse these days. Quality matters more than quantity. Quality of relationships is being ruined by the way modern culture operates. Thus it is clearly a systemic social problem, not one of individual responsibility. If modern culture is consistently making it more difficult to meet people and forge real bonds with them, how can you blame individuals for being lonely? We literally do not have the same opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:48 PM
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Whether or not a woman is naturally obedient or submissive, appearing to be can be a great way to exercise influence over a man in more subtle ways
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:16 AM
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That’s a ridiculous oversimplification based on cherry-picking extreme examples of horrible human behavior. The vast majority of people throughout history lived pretty average, mostly uneventful lives. It’s honestly kind of funny to me that so many people think “the past” was just 24/7 violence and suffering. People on average were absolutely, unequivocally, happier in “the past” because their lives had meaning. There is no meaning to be found in modern life. The only reason so many people today…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:34 PM
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Who tf cares about quantity? What tf value is having 500 “friends” if you’re not actually close with any of them? I’ve always kept a very small social circle precisely because quality matters far more than quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:23 PM
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Yeah but then OP can’t keep living in his fantasy world where life is supposedly better than it’s ever been and people should stop complaining and just be happy. Better to just victim-blame so he can stay atop his high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:21 PM
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Oh really? How many autistic people do you know personally? And how involved are you in their dating lives? You know for a fact that they got into their relationships “without even trying”? Really? Or are you just talking out of your ass? You remind me of my mom. She says the same dumb shit, completely divorced from reality, and based entirely on how she thinks things should be, rather than how they actually are. I’ll talk to her about how low-wage workers are chronically stressed and depressed,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:19 PM
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Honestly dude, you sound like a fucking out-of-touch asshole. Congrats on being born into an awesome life where everything is just peachy and the problems other people face are clearly their own fault, because the world as you see it is just fine and dandy so that must be the case for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:14 PM
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The fucking Surgeon General of the United States has issued multiple reports about the severity of the loneliness epidemic, but I’m sure you know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:12 PM
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While we’re having fun victim-blaming, how about some blame for poor people being poor? Why don’t those bums just work harder? Or how about women who get raped? Why don’t they take some personal responsibility and dress more modestly? What about kids who get abused by their parents? How come they don’t behave better so they don’t get beat?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:11 PM
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This is so cute and naive and privileged. Healthcare? It’s only “amazing” if you can afford it. There are literally millions of people suffering from treatable health problems solely because they can’t afford it. We withhold medical care to people because they don’t have enough green paper. That’s honestly worse than living in a society where the technology simply doesn’t exist. At least then everyone suffers equally. Drugs? You think “drug problems” were worse before? I can’t remember the last …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:00 PM
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The world as we know it is ending. Sticking your head in the sand ain’t gonna save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:45 PM
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The growing (it’s not incoming, as it’s already here) crisis involving soil erosion, microplastic pollution, ocean acidification, massive biodiversity loss, and global climate chaos is overblown? The very ability of the planet to support human civilization is faltering, and you think the crisis is “overblown”?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:44 PM
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Our ancestors were happier because they lived real lives. They had agency. Their choices mattered. Life had meaning. Wtf is modern culture, truly? How anyone can feel anything other than ennui and despair in this society is beyond my comprehension. We stare at screens and push buttons all day. There’s no point to any of this. All we do is consume, and no matter how much we consume we are never content. Give me a life where my decisions actually mattered. Where I had to solve actual problems. Whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:40 PM
1

Yes, take a break. Not, completely avoid dating throughout your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:41 PM
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Men have always needed to do things to set themselves apart and get female attention. It’s certainly more difficult nowadays, but there’s nothing new about a man needing to work on himself in order to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:30 PM
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I don’t understand the premise of the post. Who is telling men that they can’t simultaneously date and work on themselves? Since when are those two things mutually exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 05:27 PM
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I’m 35 years old and it’s worked out fine for me so far, but I’ll let you know if something ever changes. It’s honestly just crazy to me that you legit don’t think humility and confidence are compatible, when that’s clearly the most attractive combination in a man. Do you actually believe that any women (other than perhaps the lowest value ones) are attracted to arrogance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 09:06 PM
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Again, humility and confidence are not mutually exclusive. A man can be both confident and humble. Arrogance, however, is surely a sign of weakness. Confident men don’t need to brag or show off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:34 PM
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More weak-minded thinking. You’re so focused on failing, on being hurt, on losing, on being exploited, etc, that you end up creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. You would be surprised how far actual confidence in yourself can take you. I can be open and vulnerable with women in my life because I’m confident in the strength of my relationships with them. I’m also confident in my ability to build new relationships if it turns out the women in my life aren’t who I thought they were. Example: let’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:32 PM
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People can change though. Just because a woman was a slut in college doesn’t mean she’ll be a slut forever. I try to judge people on where they’re at, not where they’ve been.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:22 PM
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There’s only “zero evidence” if you ignore all the evidence. Men investing in their children is one of the things that sets humans apart from other primates. It’s one of the major advantages our species has. Of course there are deadbeat dads, but the vast majority of human males want to be involved in parenting their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:21 PM
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No evidence except that the vast majority of human societies that have ever existed were built on the foundation of male-female pair bonding. That is quite literally one of the things that sets us apart from other primates is long-term monogamous pair bonds. Of course humans can form multiple bonds throughout their lives, but we are primarily driven to find one human of the opposite sex to pair off and procreate with. The only “agenda” at play is from weirdo urban liberals who absolutely refuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:18 PM
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First of all, assuming a generation is 20 years, 6,000 years of civ = 300 generations. Secondly, height has little to do with evolution. It’s primarily driven by environment and childhood nutrition. Men are taller today on average because they were better fed on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:15 PM
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I personally have no interest in ever being drugged, but I don’t fault people for choosing it when they can’t get the help they need elsewhere. Many people were also put onto these drugs when they were children and are now physically addicted to them, so I can’t hold that against someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:10 PM
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I’ve had many female friends throughout my life and been in many relationships, and never have I felt judged or scorned for being emotionally vulnerable with any of them. And I’m someone who is pretty open with my thoughts and feelings, so I’ve been emotionally vulnerable with just about every important person in my life at some point or another. I’m sorry, but what you’re saying just isn’t true. Showing vulnerability is one of the most confident things a man can do. It means he’s not afraid of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:57 AM
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Ah ok so one girl you kinda knew back in high school was mean to her boyfriend one time, so that means that all women hate men showing any vulnerability?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:45 AM
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Being emotionally vulnerable is not the same as being weak. If you can’t understand this very basic concept, I’m honestly not sure what to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:43 AM
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The fact that you think dating is a “battle” says far more about you than any woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:40 AM
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Showing vulnerability is a sign of strength and confidence. You’re afraid of being exploited. Fear =/= strength or confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:39 AM
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Nope. I’m looking for a SAHW, and while I would certainly like my wife to listen to me (seems like the polite thing to do when someone is talking to you), I have no interest in a helpless doormat. Submissiveness is an attitude. It’s a way of relating to the dominant person in your life. A dominant person provides a feeling of security and stability for the submissive. They provide and maintain structure. They are focal point for the sub’s desire to serve, but service does not have to mean inequa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:18 AM
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So physical attractiveness? Or something more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:04 AM
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They’re predominantly dating men with fewer resources because those men make up the vast majority of men. There aren’t that many men who can truly separate themselves from the pack based on wealth alone. The ones who can are usually older, and they disproportionately date women younger, sometimes much younger, than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:57 AM
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I’m curious why you think a submissive woman can’t be their own person? Also, if two people are specifically looking for a D/s type of dynamic in their relationship, isn’t that caring about compatibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:30 PM
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A submissive woman can still be an equal in a romantic partnership. Most people simply don’t understand what the D/s dynamic is about and just assume it’s some asshole bossing a woman around all day. To be clear, that absolutely happens in a lot of relationships, but it has nothing to do with dominance or submission. That’s just a guy being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:27 PM
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Define “genuine attraction”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:22 AM
1

We still kill each other over superstitions. Literally all the time. Nothing’s changed. Humans of all ages have always been influenced by fictional stories. This isn’t some new phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:07 AM
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I’ll never understand why so many people are so obsessed with numbers. Number of dates before sex. Age gaps. Body counts. Who gives a damn about any of it? Two people should have sex with each other when they both feel like doing so. What does it matter whether it’s the first date or the five hundredth?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:36 PM
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Humility and confidence are not at all mutually exclusive. I think you’re confusing arrogance with confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:01 PM
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Ben Shapiro was mocked because he outted himself as never having made his wife wet
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:58 PM
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Women are not a monolith, and neither are coastal cities. I live in Portland and I’ve been surprised many times by views expressed by some of the women I’ve met here. People don’t often fit neatly into the left-right paradigm. So I would say those dudes should be honest and authentic about who they are, but always be looking for common ground with women they meet. They should filter dates based on values and life goals, which don’t necessarily overlap neatly with political identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:10 AM
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So one woman used you and that means all women are terrible and will use you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:48 PM
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Takes like these are so weird to me because they imply that female friends aren’t providing any emotional support to their male friends. Why is friendship with a woman always made out to be that she’s “using” the man? Some of my most fulfilling and supportive friendships have been with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:03 PM
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If you view emotionally supporting a friend as being a “tampon,” idk what to tell you, but that’s a sad and strange way to look at friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:58 PM
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It’s honestly kind of sad that you don’t think men and women can have fulfilling friendships. You’re literally cutting out half of humanity as possible friends just because you have some weird insecurity about being “used”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 07:57 PM
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Alcohol lowers inhibitions and thus makes people more open and less guarded. This facilitates social interaction. As long as you’re not getting wasted every day, the negative health effects are minimal to none, so I’m not sure why you’re presenting it as such a bad thing. To answer your question though, I personally enjoy the vibe of a mostly empty bar on a weekday afternoon. Which is to say, I’m not there drinking to meet people, but to enjoy my drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:41 PM
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Of course. But OP seemed to be implying that we should shun people who are already socially isolated. Why purposely go out of our way to psychologically harm other people who aren’t doing anything wrong except being “awkward” and “weird”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:25 AM
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I never said women shouldn’t have any. Nor did I even specifically limit my criticisms of unlimited freedom to only women. Men don’t usually handle it that well either. Our culture has become obsessed with the cult of individuality. We’re all obnoxious narcissists these days. Modern life is a meaningless free for all where anything goes and no one has to give a damn about anything or anyone other than their own immediate gratification. I’m merely suggesting that perhaps things would be better fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:49 PM
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Women get to do that yet they seem to be more miserable than ever. Maybe unlimited freedom isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Maybe humans are happier and healthier when there are some sensible limits to their conduct and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:09 PM
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I’m sorry you’ve had those experiences, but my point is that I don’t think they’re as common as OP makes it seem. He seems to be equating rejection itself with mistreatment. This is understandable as rejection certainly hurts, but just because the man was hurt by the rejection doesn’t mean that the woman was mean to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:53 PM
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Of course, there are just as many shitty women out there as shitty men. That doesn’t mean they’re the majority though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:49 PM
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If a man is weird and awkward because he’s been socially isolated by circumstances outside his control, you think the solution is to isolate him further? That’s seriously your solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:42 PM
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How does a woman not being romantically/sexually interested in you mean “she is a user who was exploiting you”? She enjoyed your platonic company but wasn’t interested in you romantically or sexually. Welcome to life, it happens. You’re going to be attracted to people who aren’t attracted to you. That’s all it tells you about “who she really is.” I’m also curious to hear more about how you’ve been treated like a leper and had women violently lash out at you, because that honestly sounds very hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:57 AM
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It makes them more complicated in that I’ve missed opportunities by essentially friendzoning myself. When I really like a girl, it’s like some sort of mental block develops that seems to prevent me from wanting to make a move. It’s not a conscious thing; it’s like my sex drive just gets throttled down against my will. Tbh idk why this is, and it’s something I’ve given a lot of thought. There’s definitely some kind of “purity” aspect involved, even though it’s completely illogical since my brain …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:37 AM
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I wouldn’t say it ruins relationships, but it makes them more complicated for me. If my brain classifies a woman as a Madonna, then it’s very difficult for me to initiate anything sexual with her. But if the woman gets classified as a Whore, then all I’m really interested in with her is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:50 AM
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Exactly. It’s crazy to me how many grown adults still view love in such a childlike way. They legit believe there’s someone out there waiting for them who will just magically love them “for who they are.” It’s insane thinking. There is no such thing as “love at first sight.” No one is ever going to fall in love with you because you’re just “such a great guy.” The world is filled with “great guys.” Why tf is she going to choose me over the thousands of others? Because of what I can provide - reso…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:01 PM
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You’re taking a few extreme cases and extrapolating them out to cover all cases. In the vast majority of cases, marriages were arranged. Their purpose was to strengthen bonds between different families. Girls often did have a say, and the arranging was usually far more like matchmaking than a slave auction. To think that men as a whole are so utterly disgusting and psychopathic that they would regularly sell their daughters as literal sex slaves is ludicrous. Have some men done this? Yes, of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:53 PM
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True love develops over time. It develops through repeated and consistent interactions between two people who share their lives together. All of your examples fail to take this into account. There is no such thing as “love at first sight,” so to expect a woman to just magically fall in love with me simply for who I am is utterly absurd. People like me want “the old times” because both parties needed each other. That’s a good thing. I want a woman to need me and I want to need her. Humans are a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:46 PM
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As opposed to the mythical woman who will just “love you for you”?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:21 PM
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Apples and oranges. Wealthy and powerful men do those things because they can. They’re living in a completely different world than you or I, a world based on selfishness and immediate gratification. I’m talking about regular folks. The average man is without a doubt more loyal than the average woman. Men will go into a multiyear depression after a breakup, while a woman will be out at the club three days later hooking up with a guy she just met, and be in a relationship two weeks after that. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:32 PM
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Tbh in my experience it’s because women are often terrible at both. They inexplicably try to make it work with men who are clearly awful and draped in red flags, yet they will also give up so easily on decent men as soon as a slightly better potential option comes around. This is completely understandable, as women are biologically designed to consistently seek out the best possible situation for themselves, due to their more vulnerable position in life. But, at least nowadays, most women seem u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:08 PM
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Who tf said you or people like you should be punished? I’m childfree and plan on being so for the rest of my life. That doesn’t prevent me from acknowledging that in making that choice I’ve technically “failed” in my biological purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:58 PM
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It depends how one defines “alpha” and “beta”, which are nonsense terms with zero actual science behind them. To me, “alpha” means a man who can get what he wants and doesn’t have to play by the rules that most other men do, so money would absolutely make a man an “alpha” in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:59 PM
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Women like physically attractive men who can provide financial security. Men who have both those traits tend to attract the most women, as well as the highest quality ones. However, since such men are relatively rare, women tend to go for the attractive ones early on to have fun, and then settle down later with a financially stable partner. In literally any human society where female sexuality isn’t controlled, this is what happens. It’s just the way humans are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:57 PM
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Too much choice has ruined dating. It’s ruined just about everything else in society as well, but it really stands out with dating. It’s been shown in many studies that more choice = less satisfaction. The more options people have, and the more time they have to make a decision, the more anxiety they feel during the process and the less satisfied they feel with their choice after the choice is made. Up until recently, your dating options were pretty much confined to where you lived. There was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:44 PM
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Why are you being so weird about this? He’s speaking strictly in a biological sense. The only purpose of life is to create more life. Thus, if a life form does not reproduce, that is considered a “failure” from a biological perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:30 PM
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I would say this is more generally a modern human problem. No one, man or woman, seems to have any interest in taking even the slightest personal responsibility these days. Everyone has Main Character Syndrome and will do anything necessary, including completely rewriting history, to ensure that they are always the hero of their story.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:17 PM
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Why do you think “a good amount of women” are attracted to that type of guy though? You asked a grand total of three women and believe that’s a large enough sample size to start making inferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:26 AM
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Yeah why bother trying to confront the systemic issues plaguing our society when we can just drug everyone into zombiefied contentment instead
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:44 PM
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I’m part-Greek, making fun of Slavs and Turks is a reflex I can’t help it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:38 PM
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Love without a doubt. Who would ever value work over love?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 09:37 PM
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Admitting you’re a Slav isn’t the flex you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:44 PM
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I’ve given up trying to educate people like that. They’ll learn the truth when it’s too late, as you said. And honestly, I think that deep down they know they’re wrong, but the cognitive dissonance of accepting that reality is simply too much for them to handle, so they persist in their delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:40 PM
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No, I never said I did. The discussion was whether or not I would be open to it. I said that I would, because why would I care if a woman sold nudes? If I’m dating her and having sex with her, while the other dudes are just wasting money on buying her nudes, how does that make me the pathetic one? I’m getting to actually be with her, while they’re paying for a little online fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:37 PM
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This is just sad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:31 PM
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The cult of individuality is at the root of this I believe. We’ve been brainwashed since birth to think that each of us are special little unique snowflakes that deserve nothing but the best. We deserve to “have it all.” We should “never settle.” We’re told to go to college and get a degree so we can get a good career and make our own money and be “independent.” Of course the only way to do that is to toil incessantly, but we’re also programmed from a young age that hard work is “good for the so…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:51 PM
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In this modern world I don’t judge people for doing what they have to do to survive. I think it says a lot more about society that so many women are willing to “flash [their] asshole and everything else for $5” than about the women who are doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:30 PM
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It’s a “pathetic mentality” that I don’t judge a woman because she sells nudes? It’s “pathetic” that if I dated an OF model I’d be getting to bang her while the rest of the guys just get photos? Weird take but ok bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:28 PM
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Thank you for posting this. It really is disheartening to me how few people seem to realize the truth of what you wrote. Anyone who can be happy with just their career and hobbies is honestly a bit of a sociopath imo. We are literally biologically designed to need other people, yet the modern world tries to convince us that having such a need is shameful and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:26 PM
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Well except for the fact they’re not having sex with their customers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:55 AM
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Why would I not date a woman who sells nudes? The men who buy them just get photos, I would be getting the real thing. Good for her for convincing random dudes to pay her bills. Sounds like solid entrepreneurship to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:53 AM
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Gold diggers want to use their husband as an ATM to accumulate material possessions. They want to buy things. They want to conspicuously consume. They’re materialistic and narcissistic. Men who are actually traditional have no interest in those women. Zero. There’s not a chance in hell I’m wasting my money on some overpriced handbag or Kardashian lip fillers. Fuck that. Traditional men want traditional women, and one of the things a traditional women wants is a man who can provide financial secu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:15 AM
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No. A gold digger is the type of woman who wants a wealthy man to use as a personal ATM in order to accumulate material luxury. A woman who simply wants financial stability and security is not a gold digger. She wants to live a more traditional life and take care of domestic responsibilities, and thus needs to be sure the man she chooses can provide financially. That has nothing to do with gold digging. It’s basic vetting for the the type of husband and relationship that she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:59 AM
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“Whore” in this instance is an archetype, not a moral judgment or a personal attack. It’s not about your intentions, it’s about how you present yourself. Posting NSFW content online sends a certain message about yourself, and most men are going to receive and interpret that message a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:05 AM
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Men are expendable, so it makes sense that men are overproduced, and that mechanisms evolved to ensure that overproduction does not lead to overpopulation. A society can continue to reproduce itself as long as there’s at least one sexually-mature male. Women hold all of the social value because they are the reproductive bottleneck. Thus men are overproduced and compete and fight amongst themselves, winnowing out the least fit. This flips the sex imbalance, with more women than men postwar, givin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:54 AM
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It’s like walking through a construction site topless in a g-string and then being shocked that she got catcalled. It’s just a very obvious observation, so I didn’t get the point of posting it. She put herself in a situation where any adult would know the outcome and then came to Reddit to “expose” it. Yes, men who want LTRs would also be interested in casual sex with certain women if offered to them. I just didn’t realize this was new information.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:15 AM
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It’s the Madonna-Whore Complex. Most men desire a monogamous relationship with the “Madonna” archetype - demure, devoted, pure, virginal, etc. For me at least, I have zero desire to have sex with those kinds of women unless we establish an emotional connection first. I want to develop a true and deep connection with that type of woman. The sex is really the icing on the cake. However, the flip side is the Whore - and do I really need to list any adjectives? The Whore presents herself in a certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:52 PM
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So just to be clear: you have a boyfriend, yet you’re still posting NSFW content online, and you’re upset that men see your content and want to hook up with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:40 PM
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You’re posting “content” in a NSFW sub. What exactly did you think was going to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:38 PM
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But you’re making it up that they have these things in common. You don’t know shit about anyone’s life yet you’re quick to make broad assumptions. Have you ever considered that maybe you’ve got the order of operations backwards? Maybe all the dudes wasting time on video games are doing so because they can’t find any social acceptance, ever think of that? Is it really that difficult to imagine that after years of isolation and rejection, some people will retreat into fantasy worlds to avoid feeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:49 PM
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Nice job victim-blaming there. You know nothing about me or anyone on here. Stop making stupid assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 04:11 PM
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The ultimate reason dating is very hard for guys these days is because men no longer have any purpose in modern society. For the vast majority of human history, the average man could offer provisions and protection for a woman. Now what can he offer? She needs neither his provisions nor his protection, so why would she even bother with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:12 AM
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As they said it’s about more than just the event that happened. It’s about having social support. Someone who was victimized by violent crime but has a strong social support system is almost assuredly going to handle that trauma better than someone who was bullied and/or simply ignored for much of their life and doesn’t have a social support system to fall back on. Not to mention, forgetting all of that, we know that humans are social animals. Loneliness literally takes years off people’s lives.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:05 AM
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This 1000% When you have a strong social support system, dealing with trauma is infinitely easier than when you’re socially isolated
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:02 AM
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I’m just amused by all the comments freaking out about the no male friends and no clubbing boundary. You all do realize that almost every human society throughout the history of civilization has had very similar social rules, right? If a woman commits to a man, then she shouldn’t be running around with other men. Not sure how that’s a controversial statement. But according to people on here, I guess every human society that has ever existed was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:49 PM
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And it’s his choice to end the relationship if she does. See how simple the concept is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:39 PM
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How is it dictating? He’s setting a boundary. If she doesn’t like that boundary, she has the ability to leave him at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:39 PM
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He literally just said that there’s nuance. He never said 100% no male friends under any circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:37 PM
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Mosque-pilled
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:57 AM
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Because you came on here to specifically argue a point. You posted with a definitive agenda. Random women commenting on some random meme on Instagram that they’ll literally forget about two minutes later is a little different, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:52 AM
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I think his point is more that American women seem to use dating apps for validation, entertainment, and ego boosts, while European women are actually using them to find men to date. It’s not about ease, it’s about intentions. I can’t tell you how many profiles I’ve come across where it’s literally just an ad for her Instagram. As in, nothing other than one photo and her @. The typical American woman on a dating app isn’t taking it as seriously as the typical man is, hence the continued frustrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:48 AM
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What a terrible guy he was for wanting women to actually put effort into dating and relationships and to cut back on some of the blatant narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:44 AM
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I meant it on a personal level, not societal. The typical, individual woman, no longer needs a man. My argument is that this is undermining the very foundation of society. I’m not sure what “liberal” buzzwords I used, given that I’m not a liberal nor would most liberals agree with what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:35 PM
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Each relationship is unique and each one that ends does so for its own reason/collection of reasons. In his case, I assume that his drug use and mental health issues probably caused strains in his relationships. But I’m just honestly not sure what you’re trying to prove at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:33 PM
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Yes, they’re commenting on a stupid meme. So what? Why are you taking social media comments so seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:30 PM
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Not quite sure why you have to put down other women by implying that they have literal brain damage just because they prefer dominant men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:26 PM
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Spent way too long in a relationship with a BPD woman, so I can confirm. Sex was insane but so was she. I’d literally rather be celibate the rest of my life than ever get involved with another BPD woman. Crazy sex does not outweigh having to deal with a legitimately crazy partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:21 PM
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Because most relationships end. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:19 PM
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Ok so what’s your point? Women can be pickier and thus choose to be. Is this a surprise to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:16 PM
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“When he admitted in this reel that he has mental issues and he is on drugs” 😂😂😂 Dude, it’s a fucking meme. It’s goofy internet shit. Are you actually being serious right now? It’s a goofy meme meant to be funny. Why in tf are you thinking this serves as some kind of “proof” of anything? Like dear god I’m on the spectrum but some of you take autism to a whole different level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:15 PM
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Because he’s a funny dude and women tend to like funny dudes. It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:13 PM
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Modern society made men obsolete. That’s the fundamental issue here. Human societies have always been built on interdependency. For 99% of our history, we needed others. Now we live in a strange aberration in history where most people can go through their lives never actually needing anyone. In terms of intimate relationships specifically, this has been nothing short of a disaster. Women used to need men. Men used to need women. Now no one needs anyone anymore. Most people call this “progress,” …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:56 PM
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BREAKING NEWS: Humans are complicated and often have conflicting desires
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:47 PM
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Yeah I’m sure those kids would’ve been much better off without the extra income and having a father figure in their lives 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:17 PM
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Most of the “men” on here are insecure little boys who are desperate are for social approval
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:13 PM
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I’m legitimately not trying to be rude, but are you in middle school? What kind of immature nonsense is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:11 PM
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Women are attracted to confidence. Men can be both confident and kind, the two traits are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 05:16 PM
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Theory #1 is the big one. Most men have options in terms of women, they just don’t like the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 12:14 AM
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Individualism. The past four generations, at least in the US, have been trained since birth to “never settle,” to “accept nothing but the best,” to “be their best self,” etc etc. Over time this mindset creates very disordered thinking, particularly black-and-white thinking. Every situation, every interaction, becomes a personal referendum on the self. People have become so narcissistic that they no longer have any interest in truly understanding and empathizing with others, because it gets in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:49 PM
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I guess it all depends on how we each define value. A trashy woman with no self-respect is automatically low-value to me. The types of women who go for the types of guys you describe have never really been on my radar, so I guess I just haven’t given it much thought tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 07:13 PM
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Survival within the context of a tightly-knit social group where everyone had a role and everyone depended on everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:49 AM
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This is pretty much the origin of male-female pair-bonding. Young woman needs protection and resources, older male needs companionship. It’s a tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:46 AM
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People tend to gravitate to their own kind. If a woman is legitimately attracted to a drug-addicted criminal, then she isn’t the type of woman I would be interested in, so it’s not something I really think about. Women who are attracted to low value men are absolutely low value themselves. Their inability to properly vet men and/or their lack of self-respect automatically lowers their value, at least in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:24 PM
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No, I want to live the way humans evolved to live. I want actual, meaningful, deep connections with other humans. Platonic, romantic, all of it. I want to need others and have others need me. Not this dystopian culture of isolation and alienation where everyone is obsessed with themselves and their own immediate gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 03:07 PM
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The type of women who are attracted to abusive drug addicted criminals aren’t the type of women you’re interested in, so why do you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 05:11 AM
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Literally every human society that has ever existed has been based on interdependency and sacrifice. We’re living in a very strange and unnatural time, and its end is coming a lot sooner than most people realize. Individualism leads to narcissism. Mass narcissism leads to societal collapse. We’re well in our way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:45 AM
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No. Relationships are the bedrock of human life. We are a social animal. Relationships - platonic, romantic, familial - are the foundation of every human culture that has ever existed. This obsessive focus on the self is an historical aberration whose negative effects are beyond obvious at this point. We’ve become a bunch of insecure, anxious, whiny narcissists boozing and smoking and medicating ourselves into oblivion while we passively stare at screens all day long. Individualism invariably le…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:43 AM
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Humans are supposed to need each other. Interdependency was the norm for the entirety of our existence as a species. We are a social animal. Yet in modern culture we’re now told that interdependency is bad and to need someone else is wrong. The results of this ridiculous narcissistic experiment shouldn’t surprise anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 04:37 AM
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It’s not feminism, it’s modernity. No one needs anyone anymore. And not just in romantic relationships, but in all relationships. For the vast majority of human history, we lived highly interdependent lives. We needed other people. But nowadays we don’t. Everyone can take care of everything for themselves. “Progress” has destroyed the very foundation of human social relations: needing each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:08 PM
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The ring used to be for the bride to have something valuable and thus not be destitute if her husband ever left her. Since modern progressive women have their own careers and incomes, why should they expect a ring nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:45 PM
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This is why I continually argue that most women still want a traditional relationship. They’ve just been socialized since birth to believe that it’s “wrong” and that they need to be independent and “empowered.” This creates a lot of internal tension, which is why the typical modern woman is so miserable despite all the “progress” in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:42 PM
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No one ever said there weren’t shitty women out there. But they’re not the majority. Which this study proves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:08 AM
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How so? What about those guys invalidates what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:15 PM
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Who said anything about social status? I simply said men compete for sexual access to women, and a portion of those men will never find success. However a man wins the competition - looks, resources, personality, status, etc - doesn’t matter. You’re correct that there is no set number for what percentage of men should reproduce, but it’s clearly not 100%. Same goes for infant mortality. Not every child is supposed to survive infancy. This brief aberration in human history known as “modernity” ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:15 PM
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It’s not a double standard, it’s just life. Women have value, men are replaceable. Throughout the history of our species, men have had to compete for sexual access to women. While there are more hoops for men to jump through these days, the basic premise remains the same as it has always been. From an evolutionary perspective, not all men are supposed to reproduce. For those men, of course this is a personal tragedy. But for society as a whole, that’s just how it’s supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 07:05 PM
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This 100%. Every relationship I’ve been in, the woman became more physically attractive to me as our emotional connection deepened.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:54 PM
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Because I value the relationship that has been developed over time. It’s not about her personality, it’s about how our personalities have interacted and the experiences we’ve shared and the love we’ve built together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:50 PM
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True love develops over time. There is no such thing as love at first sight. When two people consistently spend time together, when they share their experiences over time, their joys and their sorrows, trust and affection naturally start to build. But it takes time. This is why most modern relationships end in the 6-24 month range. They’re all based on infatuation and immediate gratification. As soon as one of the partners gets bored, or finds someone more shiny and exciting, off they go. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:48 PM
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If the wife is SAH and the man is the only provider, how is it unfair that he should have to give his ex-wife some financial support? She sacrificed the ability to earn her own money in order to manage the home for him. Now she’s supposed to just be on her own and start over with nothing? How is that fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:36 PM
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If a man has that much money then he should have a good attorney to ensure his assets are properly protected
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:22 PM
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Because he desperately needs to feel like a victim, so he invents imaginary persecutions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 04:20 PM
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The fact that you actually believe that a woman who was not at all interested in me would nonetheless agree to go on another date with me solely for free food is honestly just sad. Why do you have such a low view of women? I mean my god, it’s what, a $20 entree and a glass of wine? And you think women are debasing themselves for that? For the record, I’ve had multiple dates that I paid for and that never progressed beyond the first date. And that’s perfectly ok. First dates are for getting to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:59 AM
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Me paying for a woman’s $20 entree and a glass of wine is going to convince them that I can provide them with a life of material luxury? Are you actually being serious right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:50 AM
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Thanks for taking me completely literally. What I meant was that the point of a first date is to get to know someone. I’m just confused what the hell you think a first date is? Who says I go in with money as my primary attribute? I ask a woman out for drinks and/or dinner, and when the check comes I pay for it. Again, that is basic dating courtesy, or at least used to be. That doesn’t mean I’m leading with my wallet. Whatever percentage of women you think it is, the point is that there are absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:46 AM
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But attraction is based on more than just looks. A woman can find a man moderately attractive based on looks alone, but his personality, wealth, etc can add to the overall attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:33 AM
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Technically yes, though I would argue that most women simply want a baseline level of safety/stability and reliable access to resources. Of course there are the gold digger types who will always be looking for someone wealthier, but I think the typical woman simply has a certain baseline expectation, and as long as it is consistently met, she has little reason to look elsewhere. I think the deeper issue at play here is modern culture, particularly social media. I think that women have always had…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:33 PM
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Why do so many men insist on this black and white binary situation where a woman is either with a man for his personality/looks or she’s with him for his money. You realize that both can be true simultaneously, right? A woman can genuinely enjoy a man’s company while also appreciating his ability to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:18 PM
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People need to realize that all relationships are transactional. She likes “who you are”? But what does that mean exactly? If you’re funny, then you are providing her with laughter. If you are kind and patient, then you are providing her with emotional support. If you’re handy and know how to fix things, then you are providing those skills. If you’re handsome, then you’re providing something pleasant to look at regularly. So how is that any different than being a financial provider? A lot of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:12 PM
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