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We must fight the ideology of male expendability harshly and achieve maximum international popularity for a critical view of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/26 01:01 AM
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"If we're to talk about the popular topic of gender equality in general, let me tell you how I see it. When I meet with foreign colleagues who are obsessed with this idea, I say we're against gender equality. They get concerned. I say, "You know, in Russia, we promote privileges for women". - Irina Yarovaya.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/26 01:42 PM
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The times when powerful men didn't fund bourgeois feminist organizations with vast sums of money are over. Today, they actively finance bourgeois feminist organizations, and this is a critically important part of contemporary capitalism. If we are still fighting capitalism, we must consider what capitalism looks like today. Contemporary capitalism actively supports bourgeois feminism through direct funding, propaganda in the press, academia, and popular culture, development of law from the persp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 07:27 PM
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What is typically called male socialization is actually called abuse of boys, but people are not ready for this conversation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/26 05:48 PM
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UN Women is an organization of monsters, we are not fighting it hard enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 06:23 PM
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"Women don't hate men. We LOVE gay men." A huge number of homosexual men in the world have the experience of being raised by a homophobic mother. To write such things is to devalue their experience. And the world is not limited to large cities of Western countries.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/06/26 03:41 PM
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At the same time, the mass media presents the matter as if India is a monstrously misogynistic country, instead of talking about the real Indian laws.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 03:01 PM
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Western mainstream feminism doesn't focus on war. It just so happens that Western society has become accustomed to the idea that no one will bomb their cities. If a single bomb fell on New York tomorrow, the US would experience hysteria unmatched by any other country in the world that is being bombed. As a result, Western mainstream feminism relegates war to the background when analyzing gender. And the fact that men are primarily the transhistorically cannonfodderized gender becomes a secondary…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 06:17 PM
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The proponents of the term adhere to the theory that when a man behaves toxically, it is due to his desire to "prove that he is a real man." But even when it's the case, this would be better called internalized misandry, since the idea that not all men are real is deeply anti-male at its core.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 03:07 AM
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It's a buzzword, to say the least. Few people read the original academic papers that coined it, but everyone uses it. It's a trend in art criticism right now, and I'm fed up with it, because it's become fashionable to describe almost every popular male character who's slightly more feminine than Rambo as a "deconstruction of toxic masculinity," even though in fact, we still have a monstrous underrepresentation of gender-nonconforming men in art.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 03:03 AM
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In general, I would like to know which works, if not consciously convey left-masculist views (I don’t seriously expect to discover this, unless I write it myself), then at least actually have a disproportionately large popularity among left masculists...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/26 03:03 PM
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They say misandry only hurts feelings because they think men must not be sensitive. They pretend to be against toxic masculinity and gender stereotypes, but in fact they can’t stand men who show their sensitivity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/26 06:43 AM
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Oh, I am quite optimistic about left-wing male advocacy. Over time, socialists will have to realize that for socialism to work, it must take into account that it is not enough for men simply not to be exploited in the sphere of material production. They also need to ensure that they, unlike women, are not groomed to be used as cannon fodder in the fight against imperialism. Socialism without masculism does not work. Socialism without masculism is built on monstrous hypocrisy. Yes, there is a lon…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/26 07:02 AM
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“The male gaze is not always male.” — Mary Devereaux. “Patriarchy has no gender.” — bell hooks. My two favorite quotes in academic feminism because they reveal where the key contradiction in feminist theory lies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 10:42 AM
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Non-abusive men ARE afraid of female-perpetrated domestic violence, including when they are physically-superior. Because they know there are such guidelines. Because people do not treat female-perpetrated violence against them seriously. NOMAS should go to hell.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/26 10:30 AM
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Unfortunately, Wikipedia just reflects current mainstream academic point of view here. The extreme amount of scholars work on demonizing men’s rights activism every day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 03:48 AM
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It’s a myth, males in Gaza are overrepresented as victims in the detailed statistics, but mass media do not say how many of those who are covered with the term “women and children” are boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 09:46 PM
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Zionists: “Kill every military-age Palestinian male!” Pro-Palestine activists: “Stop killing Palestinian women and children!”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 08:21 PM
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The funniest thing is that feminists claim to be fighting against patriarchy, but they actively collaborate with this gathering of powerful guys in business suits.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/26 10:41 AM
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UN criteria of what gender equality is must be laughed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/26 06:30 PM
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Saying “you’re an incel” stuff doesn’t work anymore.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 06:30 PM
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Be careful with all that “Men and women are different but equal” stuff in the rhetoric from some “male-friendly” feminists. Men’s rights activists often buy it. In fact, we must criticize mainstream feminism not for being too blind to sex differences, but for being not enough rejecting gender essentialism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 04:02 PM
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The concept of patriarchy is being used today as a golden hammer. This is a cognitive bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 08:15 PM
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“When we say that men are trash, we are talking about those who are gendered as men, and, accordingly, follow the script of masculinity.” Yes, and it makes the situation even worse. You are sexists who do not really believe that gender-nonconforming men are real men and that their manhood is valid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/26 11:40 AM
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I’m just glad that the “you’re an incel” argument towards men’s rights activists stopped working. Men do not need sex with misandrists, men need equal rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 01:13 PM
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Tommy J. Curry harshly criticizes intersectionalists for their attitudes towards Black men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 10:19 AM
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"By other men" should sound like "I'm not a racist, but..." or something like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 05:36 PM
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Rainbow capitalism has always been closely associated with popular feminism. Misandry is not queer by itself, but this alliance tries to make it looking this way. In fact, they are enemies of gay men, trans men and gender-nonconforming men. It was in these spaces that “compliments” like “you’re not really a man” appeared. All these “when I say I hate men, I mean I hate cisgender heterosexual gender-conforming men” and the like makes it clear that they do not respect their gender identities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 07:14 AM
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I'm a feminist according to Britannica's definition, but I see how Britannica's definition of feminism is so out of sync with reality, yet it continues to be used in propaganda. So it's a complex issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 10:07 PM
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Men in power are alienated from men in society. Those who don't understand this are brainless. Those who understand this and remain silent about it are conscienceless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 09:49 PM
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UN Women should just go to hell, at least until they start avoiding the straw man rhetoric. It's impossible to have a serious debate with demagogues who lie to you about what you claim. The men's rights movement does not sound as UN Women describes it, and it puts forward fundamentally different points.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 09:32 PM
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As far as I know, male victims and victims of female-perpetrated sexual violence have generally had to fight longer to have the crime against them appropriately named. This fight is still ongoing in many countries.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 08:12 PM
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As far as I know, before feminism, laws simply did not recognize that sexual violence against men existed as such. How many people were punished for sexual violence against men before 20th century? How many women were punished for sexual violence against men or at least against boys? It will not be easy for you to find such legal processes. But it just contradicts the feminist dogma that men were historically strictly privileged, like white people or cishet people. In fact, men were traditionall…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 01:26 PM
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I don't remember the animated Shrek films very well, but I can say that I was irritated by some scenes that mocked male femininity (or so it seemed to me).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 09:21 AM
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Americans should follow the German example and start holding deliberate rallies against conscription. It's time to discard the myth that the anti-draft movement achieved its goals during the Vietnam War. On the contrary, it wasn't completed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 09:39 AM
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The term "toxic masculinity" is a term coined by men. It was first used by the mythopoetic men's movement and then introduced into the academic tradition by Terry Kupers. In fact, men have made enormous contributions to academic feminist theory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/26 03:27 AM
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Your post manipulatively confuses masculinity and men. It won't work.
/r/MensRights10/04/26 01:18 AM
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All the moms in my life are trying to figure out how to raise boys who are tender and not ashamed of their feelings. D’Augelli et al. (2008) reported that only 2% of male participants’ mothers and even fewer fathers reacted positively to gender nonconforming behavior. (D’Augelli, A. R., Grossman, A. H., & Starks, M. T. (2008). Gender atypicality and sexual orientation development among lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth: Prevalence, sex differences, and parental responses. Journal of Gay & Lesbian…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 10:43 PM
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I'm tired of this argument, because we do never say "women are those who are to blame" but there are always those who try to shift the focus to the question of who's to blame, rather than the fact that the entire global system is structured to ignore the overrepresentation of men as victims of violence. But if you really want to talk about guilt and responsibility so much, let's remember who raises children in today's world. What feminists call toxic masculinity, boys often learn because of fema…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 09:41 PM
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Intersectional feminists should consider why men are always the exception to the rule in real-world statistics when it comes to the concepts of privileged and marginalized groups according to their theory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 08:49 PM
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Even such prominent feminist classics as Catharine A. MacKinnon, Julia Serano, and Peter Glick have written that men can face sexism. "Prejudice plus power" is far from as generally accepted in academic circles as its online proponents would have it seem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/26 08:54 PM
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The worst part is that people in countries without compulsory military service often don't get what a nightmare it is and how much men suffer in places where it still exists. And as soon as you start talking about it on Reddit or Twitter, some US-defaultist jerk inevitably shows up saying, "But the draft ended ages ago, why are you even worried?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/26 09:19 PM
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I'm not a Christian, so I see no reason to mention Jesus. And not all societies where discrimination against men exists are Christian, nor is there any evidence that Christianity has helped eliminate anti-male discrimination anywhere.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 08:26 PM
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It's a shame that you have to constantly hold up a sign that says "I hate Adolf Hitler", otherwise people think it might not be true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 06:42 PM
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Macho cultures say they respect men, but they avoid calling all men real men. It is also a type of misandry.
/r/MensRights13/03/26 08:16 PM
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​I’ll let you in on a dark secret: law-abiding men cannot send a signal to the brains of delinquent men saying, "stop committing crimes against women." As for "ha, ha, ha"... Women certainly could. Actually, women differ from men not more, but less than feminists think. Women differ so little from men that their increased presence in structures of power would change very little, contrary to feminist theory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/26 11:35 PM
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Society must motivate its citizens to protect the society without draft. Including when there are aggressive neighbours. No society can deserve to be protected by slaves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/26 12:50 PM
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We haven't "gone so far in promoting women’s equality that we are discriminating against men.” We have been discriminating against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 09:35 PM
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There can be no men's liberation from what they call toxic masculinity without protection of men's rights. It is a simple dialectic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 09:24 AM
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“When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression” is an absolutely irrelevant phrase in relation to men. Actually, the situation is the opposite. Many men are brainwashed and do not feel that they are systematically discriminated in relation to women despite the fact of being objectively discriminated against in multiple aspects according to pure statistics. Things that objectively represent anti-male discrimination are denied, or conceptualized as “norms of masculinity.” Men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 11:45 AM
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Posting hundreds of articles in the spirit of "Guys, you should reflect on masculinity" from magazines in a subreddit is definetely not what will liberate men. There will be no men's liberation without protection of their rights.
/r/MensRights18/02/26 08:09 AM
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In the hands of some men alienated from men in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/26 11:47 PM
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The idea that the world was designed for men was wrong in 1949 as well. In 1949, the entire system was designed so that, in the event of a world war, men would become cannon fodder. That's how the world was designed, not for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/26 02:07 PM
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Gender-based violence against men is ignored because the elite benefits from anything that turns men into potential cannon fodder in the event of war. People in the West naively believe that the elites have devised some alternative system for preventing war, other than cultivating the idea that—as a last resort—men will obediently serve as cannon fodder. They haven't. They continue to embed a specific line into the socio-cultural code: ensure that, in the event of war, men do not believe they sh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/26 02:07 PM
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Those essays in the vein of "This suprehero represents one type of masculinity, that one another" aren't just useless; they are actually harmful. This is because they attempt to treat men as objects to be "trained" through the use of "male role models".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/26 09:02 AM
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Misandry must have as wide definition as misogyny does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/01/26 04:46 PM
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When it comes to men's issues, the left still exhibits a surprising idealism and refuses to see the material causes behind the rise of the manosphere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/26 04:28 AM
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You know that in real life women dont hate men. In real world, most people hate men. People who don't hate men defend their rights or feel solidarity with those who defend their rights. We see the opposite situation: there are violations of rights, but there is no fight against them, and the fight that does exist is marginalized and ridiculed, or tries to shed the label of men's rights activism. Most people hate men. And we want to change them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/26 05:37 PM
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Liberating men from contemporary gender roles would strip the elite of a submissive supply of cannon fodder in the event of war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 08:28 AM
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It amuses me when feminists pretend that the police aren't filled with deeply conservative people who hold blatant gender stereotypes like "a man can't be raped by a woman," "a man can't experience domestic violence," and so on, when they quote statistics that the police tell them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 11:45 PM
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Your dichotomy between feminism and billionaires is questionable when billionaires fund UN Women, billionaires produce feminist pop music, billionaires fund feminist gender studies departments, billionaires don't give a cent to the socialist wing of the men's rights movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/26 10:36 PM
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The fact that a number of countries use men as cannon fodder.
/r/MensRights16/01/26 12:04 AM
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People who believe that men are obligated to be masculine simply hate men. Everyone in the world who holds this view hates men. It's very simple. True absense of hatred of men involves seeing them as full human beings who should have the freedom to define themselves whether that aligns with traditional roles or moves entirely away from them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/25 10:53 AM
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Educating the masses through educational activism is one of the most important steps in solving problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 02:03 PM
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This is why we must engage in popularizing the academic literature on androcide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/25 02:36 PM
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It's okay to not be masculine at all. Men are as diverse as women.
/r/MensRights10/12/25 07:16 PM
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Capitalism does not need to be patriarchal in order to impose rigid gender frameworks on men and women. Capitalism develops into imperialism; imperialism requires turning some people into cannon fodder and others into incubators of cannon fodder, so that the cannon fodder is ready to defend imperialist investments. The female-dominated or gender-balanced bourgeoisie in power would quite possibly do the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/25 06:33 PM
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Do you know what Russia, Ukraine, NATO, the CSTO, and the United Nations itself have in common? Their elites view men as cannon fodder.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 04:55 PM
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You can believe what you want, but ultimately there can only be two ways to destroy capitalism - either the bourgeoisie collectively renounces its ownership of the means of social production - and no critic of Marxism has explained how this can happen - or the proletariat takes them by force of arms.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 01:49 AM
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"We should abolish the draft, end war and dismantle capitalism" Do you understand that capitalism cannot be destroyed without war, because the scenario of "the proletariat asks for all the means of social production to be given to it, and the bourgeoisie agrees" is extremely unrealistic?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 01:41 AM
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I agree about capitalism, but we also need to fight those versions of socialism that believe that a socialist state, in opposing imperialist reaction, has the right to force men to be cannon fodder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/25 01:36 AM
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In so doing, we did not intend to portray the concept of misandry itself as a myth. Defined specifically as prejudice towards men, it clearly exists. Sutton, R. M., Hopkins-Doyle, A., Petterson, A., Zibell, H., Chalmers, J., & Leach, S. The false and widespread belief that feminists are misandrists. In The Psychology of False Beliefs (pp. 150-168). Routledge.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 06:41 AM
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This article doesn't claim that misandry doesn't exist. What it does claim is that it's no more prevalent among feminists than among non-feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 05:48 AM
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The terminology of gender studies is monstrously asymmetrical in practice. I can tell you that there's a book by a staunch intersectional feminist who provides asymmetrical definitions of "man" and "woman": Woman - An adult human who identifies with womanhood. Man - An adult who identifies with the cultural and social norms of masculinity and feels an affinity for manhood. Holleb, Morgan (2019). The A-Z of Gender and Sexuality: From Ace to Ze Don't laugh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/25 07:27 PM
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It is about social issues, and one of the social issues is the fact that many of those who raise boys in the West are sexist women without accountability.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 10:50 AM
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They say they're fighting patriarchy. But they're not fighting rich men who fund feminist organizations; they're fighting middle-class men who say things online.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/25 11:52 AM
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The author of the article doesn't fully understand that a man can be a misandrist. This is a fundamental and recurring mistake made by many feminists. Until they understand that a man can be a misandrist, can genuinely want men to be discriminated against in relation to women, and derive genuine pleasure from the anti-male discrimination, they will continue to talk nonsense about both misandry and the men's rights movement. I also hate what RationalWiki writes about conscription in the article "…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/25 06:12 AM
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As a society in which power belongs to men. You're focusing on the similarities, I'm talking about the differences. Mainstream feminism believes in the need to build a gender-balanced power structures, while Marxism advocates the complete removal of the bourgeoisie from power. So no, men in mainstream feminism are not the bourgeoisie in Marxism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 09:22 PM
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Was she not calling for a feminist revolution to liberate women? Not for the establishment of a revolutionary dictatorship of women over men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 08:58 PM
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Do you know what feminist psychoanalysis is and who came up with all these concepts like the male gaze and the like?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 07:19 PM
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As far as I know, she was a Marxist. But her feminism was certainly not a "gendered reworking of Marxism, where men are the bourgeoisie and women are the proletariat." Marx called for the establishment of a revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat over the bourgeoisie. She did not call for the establishment of a revolutionary dictatorship of women over men. On the contrary, her idea was along the lines of "men and women can become allies of each other," which is not at all what Marx wrote a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 07:12 PM
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Marx, in his extensive writings, proves the fundamental antagonism between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie without resorting to psychoanalysis. This stands in stark contrast to mainstream (bourgeois) feminism. which generates its arguments about the thought processes of men in power using theories devised by feminist psychoanalytic theorists. To this day, mainstream feminism bases its theories concerning the actions of men in power on the fantasies of feminist psychoanalysts. Don't exaggerat…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 06:56 PM
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Not on my list of favorite intellectuals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 06:43 PM
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I am a Marxist, and I find the premise of mainstream feminism, which advocates for primarily assisting bourgeois women in becoming even more 'successful,' to be fundamentally inimical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 06:15 AM
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That's sarcastic and even meme phrase.
/r/MensRights31/10/25 05:47 AM
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Men are killed, women are most affected.
/r/MensRights31/10/25 05:32 AM
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Feminism is an extremely heterogeneous movement, it is impossible to support it in its entirety. Marxist feminists do not support bourgeois feminism's aspirations for even greater economic improvement of the position of bourgeois women - they advocate the abolition of classes. It was not without reason that I wrote specifically about left-liberal feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 05:13 PM
14

I don't trust those feminists who say, "We must remember that men and women are different." The "differences" between men and women are, in practice, used to create laws that restrict men's rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 04:53 PM
1

"Yeah who are the men being murdered by in the VAST majority of cases? Other MEN." I have no idea why we should care, because if they were women, it wouldn't change anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 03:16 PM
2

Draft is absolutely based on the idea that the misandrist idea that men don't deserve the right to live without risking their lives. To defeat draft, a cultural shift in attitudes towards men is needed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 12:07 AM
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Personally, I believe that a dog that bites painfully is more dangerous than one that barks loudly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 05:32 PM
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You're blaming women Irrelevant question. Men can hate men. The male collective in power is no exception.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 05:53 AM
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Supporters of forced circumcision should receive therapy aimed specifically at improving attitudes toward men, to the point where "men have the right not to be forcibly circumcised." It must be stop-hating-men therapy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 05:45 AM
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The funniest thing is when the same people shame men for being too weak and sensitive and say that they are against toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 11:24 AM
1

women have been historically suppressed and oppressed (also men have a lot of issues...) These issues are called discrimination in relation to women. The very legal status of the male demographic group have to become similar to the current status of the female demographic group.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 06:45 AM
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Services of course can be valuable. My point is that the powerful male-dominant collectives actually perceive feminist academics as those who engage in valueble labour because they fund them, so it is highly questionable to think they have a goal to establish institutional misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/25 02:12 PM
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We live in a world where female professors who produce no physical product and receive direct funding from male-dominated institutions teach students that men in power constitute patriarchy designed to oppress women. Where do they get the money for this if, as they say, the vast majority of money in the world is in the hands of the representatives of institutionally-misogynistic patriarchy? And they say that to consider elites misandrist is a conspiracy theory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/25 07:24 AM
5

So what eminent scholars discovered that women in the world attempt suicide more often, and how did they manage to discover it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 07:42 AM
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I said above that the statistics for suicide comparisons are flawed for the reason you cite, but even accounting for that, more women are attempting. What international studies exist on this matter and how do we know that this is really true? Behind each study are the names of the researchers, the methods, the interpretations, and the limitations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 06:32 AM
1

I strongly disagree. The idea that wealth is not as important as freedom isn't something un-Hollywood. It's just that for some reason, when someone in Hollywood puts such a message in their movie, it's perceived as hypocrisy or mockery. But when a Soviet animator does the same, somehow, it's not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/25 06:05 PM
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No, and your post contains a whole bunch of logical errors. First of all, you took one single cartoon, created in one single country that declares communist ideology. And they drew far-reaching conclusions about all such countries from this one cartoon. That's not serious. If I were you, instead of just one cartoon, I'd analyze Soviet laws to determine: Were men legally protected from rape, just like women? (Spoiler: no, they weren't protected from sexual violence by women at all, and this was c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/25 11:19 PM
12

Therefore, it goes without saying that human rights organizations should be criticized not only for their actions towards men, but also for their original ideological position and the fundamental declarations they have adopted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/25 08:51 PM
6

Misandry does not just hurt feelings, it kills and people who kill men often need anti-misandrist therapy during rehabilitation processes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 01:45 PM
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This is a model about which the co-founder said the founders were essentially wishful thinking: finding a way to prove what they wanted to prove, when in reality there was no real evidence that the behavior of abusive men is determined by socialization in a patriarchal system and the desire to assert patriarchal authority. This pseudoscience, widely supported by American feminists, forms the basis of the system for combating domestic violence in the United States.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 08:03 PM
6

I don't think sex is the first thing in the world that should be decommodified.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 09:30 AM
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Conscripting men and excluding women from the draft is not misogyny. This is the aspect where we need to change social attitudes toward men rather than social attitudes towards women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 04:02 PM
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Even something like what is misogynistic and what is misandrist... these terms are thrown around but often not in the way I expect them to be used Exactly. We will use them not in the way you expect them to be used. Problems? So I think it's correct to identify that this is a problem, but I don't think it's coming from misandry Viewing someones as those who must be legally forced to dangerous compulsory labour is hatred towards them. Viewing men as those who must be legally forced to dangerous c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 03:05 PM
1

Men’s rights must change. I mean increase.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/25 04:30 AM
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They attribute the depiction of women in stockings and high heels to patriarchy. Meanwhile, feudal patriarchy considered the display of legs in stockings and high heels to be the characteristic of male feudal lords.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 09:34 PM
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If we take a Jew who did not participate in the Nakba, then the victims and survivors of the Holocaust for them will be us, and the perpetrators of the Nakba will be they, and this is a correct and adequate position. Even if these groups partially coincide! Because context matters. Because there is collective demographic pain and there is no collective demographic responsibility. Let's not mix healthy collectivism with vulgar collectivism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 03:21 AM
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This is the correct position, because when it comes to the violation of men's rights, all men are the object of violation of rights on a demographic basis. But when some male criminal commits a crime, he does it personally and he bears responsibility for it, and not other representatives of his demographic group. Just as not all men should be glorified for the discoveries of male scientists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 03:04 AM
5

Some of those who disagree with us are trolls. This is a case that looks very much like trolling.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 02:37 AM
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The majority of sex crimes and violent crimes are committed by us and the majority of victims are women. That is not true. Majority of victims of violent crimes are men. Sex crimes are more complicated, officially there are many more against women, but it is also well known that cops are not the best people in terms of understanding that a man can be a victim of a sex crime. Historically, there were laws that did not consider it possible at all. This also needs to be taken into account.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 09:55 AM
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This subreddit does not deny that there are men who discriminate against women and perpetrate violence against them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 09:24 AM
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The right does more harm than the left. But we also need to fight leftist misandry, both the moderate-left "men are something like white, heterosexual, cisgender, so hate speech towards them should be legal, affirmative action in their favor cannot be" and the far-left "when we make a world socialist revolution, we will use men as cannon fodder to resist the bourgeois camp."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 06:38 AM
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We fight for equal rights for men and women in everything. A man who allows himself to live the way women are allowed to live deserves not death, but absolutely equal rights with women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/25 03:23 PM
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Men who are not rapists are not to blame for the existence of men who are rapists. Men who are rapists will not stop raping because you remind them once again "you are men!!!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/25 08:05 AM
1

The stick must go across the asses of those who do not want to pay taxes to the army in a sufficient amount so that only contract soldiers serve in the army.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/25 02:56 PM
1

No. If one wants to be protected, one must fulfill their own duty to provide the defenders with carrots in such quantity that they will go to protect them without a stick.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/25 02:23 PM
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From those who stifle the freedom of their citizens, warnings that colonizers do not sound convincing. I am not calling for not defending. I am calling for defense to be organized without legal coercion. What prevents from organizing a culture and economic system of such care for defenders that people join the army despite the absence of legal coercion?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/25 01:25 PM
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If an autistic man is an abuser, then explaining it through autism is bad. But it is also bad to explain it through his manhood. I really hope that people will understand both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/25 05:28 AM
4

What is military conscription? It’s the collective will to survive. Not even close. It is an indicator of the absence of a collective desire to defend the state.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/25 07:11 PM
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In my opinion, if something good can exist only thanks to compulsory military service, then it is not certain that this good should exist at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/25 04:11 AM
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I don't know any famous creative people with left-masculist views at all, and that's very sad. Maybe there are works that I personally prefer to perceive as works with a potentially-masculist message, but nothing more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 08:05 AM
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Men do not need “male role models”. They need liberation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/25 04:55 AM
46

Most people killed in Gaza are male. We must not let anyone erase this fact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/25 10:10 AM
46

Why should a woman have the right to a female environment, but a man should not?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/25 06:55 AM
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The fact that some men commit violence against women is no reason to introduce laws that allow to face fewer legal consequences for violence against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 08:47 AM
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I don't understand why men's right to wear dresses has never been discussed in the context of the historical lack of men's rights, while women's right to wear pants has been discussed in the context of the historical lack of women's rights.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 03:06 AM
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It is necessary to recognize conscriptionism as a harmful ideology against which an international movement must be created.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 12:03 PM
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Men are under threat. No matter whether they are masculine, androgynous or feminine. Don't fall for the manipulations of imperialist political strategists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 11:54 AM
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Oh, yes, of course, when men are killed, their gender is not a factor. Sure, sure. And in Rwanda, of course, men and boys were not the primary targets of homicide. And in Srebrenica. And when cops kill black men at far higher rates than black women, the gender of the victims is not a factor. Right now, men and boys make up the majority of those killed in Gaza, but no one cares, everyone shifts their attention from men and boys to women and children, without specifying how many of these women and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/25 10:34 AM
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If a person thinks that the word misandry means something that can only come from women and cannot come from a man, from a group of men, from a group of men in power, then there is nothing to talk about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/25 08:28 AM
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Nobody talks about laws of that time that discriminated against men. We learn about them when we read Bax. There is not a word about these laws in the history of law textbooks. The history of misandry is being erased.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/25 07:52 AM
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If the imperialist system preserves, what difference does it make what gender the imperialists are? They will still be interested in imposing on men the model of potential cannon fodder to protect imperialist investments. They will still be using working-class men as cannon fodder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 04:40 AM
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Human rights must not be bought at the price of men's right not to be expendable. If mainstream human rights organizations think otherwize, we need to criticize mainstream humanism, just as we criticize mainstream feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 07:26 AM
8

Cal is a villain not because he is trying to survive. And by the way, the fact that it is the villain who says the phrase about "not the better half" will drown (and it is known that "the better half of humanity" is used by such people as a euphemism for "women") is rather a plus for the film.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/25 07:10 AM
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I saw this Heinlein's quote Conscription is slavery, and I don't think that any people or nation has a right to save itself at the price of slavery for anyone, no matter what name it is called. Robert A. Heinlein. If this is a real quote, than I would say - I know much more pro-male-disposable thinkers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/25 04:27 AM
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The idea that "I-am-a-woman" and "I-am-a-man" do not appear in society when there is no "women-should-be-feminine" and "men-should-be-masculine," is, to put it mildly, extremely tendentious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 10:01 AM
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What is gender? Gender is a social role based on one's assigned sex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 08:00 AM
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They are neurobiologically determined. A transgender man who wants to wear pantyhose and pink dresses and watch 14 romantic movies a week has a neurobiologically determined male gender identity. And a cis woman who boxes, reads 40 physics scientific articles a week, and feels acute discomfort from clothing which is sold in the women's clothing store department has a neurobiologically determined female gender identity. Their gender identities are simply not a consequence of a social role that is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 06:57 AM
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In a postgenderist world, societally there would be no need to transition, because there would be no gender to wrongfully assign. Once again: social restrictions (and that's how you define gender) do not determine gender identities. Therefore, if social restrictions will be destroyed, gender identities will remain. Because neither today nor in the future are they determined by social restrictions imposed on men and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 06:28 AM
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One of the worst myths about the transgender community is that transgender identities are a pure consequence of social restrictions placed on human males and human females.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 05:37 AM
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Well, for starters, most people in the world don't have the term gender in their vocabulary at all. It's a predominantly English-language term, and not even all English-speaking people like to use it. Secondly, among those who have the term gender in their vocabulary, some call it gender identity, others call it a social construct of boundaries and restrictions, and some people still think it's just a synonym for sex. And the proportions of first, second, and third people vary greatly across gen…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 04:55 AM
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The argument against postgenderism is semantic: what postgenderists want to destroy is not necessarily what most people call gender. And no matter how dismissively people treat such arguments, they ultimately turn out to be correct. I want to say that people don't want to call discrimination against men discrimination against men. When women are banned from wearing pants, people call it discrimination against women and a violation of women's rights. When men are banned from wearing skirts, even …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 04:38 AM
1

Support conscription for small socialist states that resist big imperialist states still means support conscription.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 01:36 AM
11

Female privilege is being assumed that your role in your child's life is generally more important than a father's. Moreover, this privilege does not exist somewhere at the level of social stereotypes, but is directly stated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/25 03:49 AM
3

Britain had no conscription until World War I. Emmeline Pankhurst and her circle fought successfully for both women's votes and for men to become cannon fodder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 10:12 AM
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The answer from a well-known theory, which relies largely on the fantasies of feminist psychoanalysts about how homophobic men think: they hate women with a passion, so when they see a man doing something feminine, or a trans woman, they become aggressive towards them. I don't find this answer convincing. Personally, I have the opposite feeling that hatred of male homosexuality and transfemininity is often connected with the fact that it is perceived as impudence - homosexual men and transfemini…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 05:32 AM
20

Black male studies is the area of ​​critique of mainstream feminism that is actually most successful right now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/25 02:09 AM
27

This is not the patriarchy that they prefer to fight.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/25 07:47 AM
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"Gender equality" indices attach great importance to whether 30% or 31% of the country's leadership positions are held by women, and completely ignore whether 55% or 80% of the country's homeless are men. These indices should be discredited as much as possible. So that school history textbooks of the wonderful world of the future would contain information about what kind of fools lived in 2025 and what nonsense they believed in.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/25 05:32 AM
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If the perpetrators were mostly women, it wouldn't change anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/25 02:04 AM
1

The men's movement? You guys know you're already in charge of everything globally, right? No, the men's movement is not in charge.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/25 01:58 AM
2

If Western mass media report that in Iran and Saudi Arabia women cannot dress as they want, this does not mean that men there can dress as they want.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/04/25 10:25 PM
0

Classical liberalism is even more right-wing than social liberalism. It may be considered leftist in the American press, but for the rest of the world and for international political science it is rightist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 06:08 PM
0

If a dog barks less, it does not mean that it bites less painfully.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 05:51 PM
2

Her "equity feminist" reminders that "men and women are different" do not help - in practice, they are used to limit men specifically. Appealing to the differences between men and women is considered acceptable when a law is passed that only men should serve, or that fathers should have fewer rights than mothers. That's when they remember "men and women are different." Therefore, it is extremely disadvantageous for the men's movement to speak out from a position of gender essentialism. On the co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 05:47 PM
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"Men, stop keeping negative emotions to yourself and not sharing them with others. That's toxic masculinity." "Okay, let's talk. We're hurt by misandry." "Oh, stop whining. It just hurts your fragile feelings, it is not a serious problem."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/25 09:16 AM
12

Men need to receive protection from a common situation when their real, not hypothetical, rapists are sitting in one prison cells with them. Nobody cares when a man faces sexual violence in prison. People just say “by other men” as though it is not something that need to be prevented as seriously as male-on-female sexual violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 03:45 PM
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sex-based spaces have a right to exist Enough. The absence of the SRY gene should not confer any additional rights at all. The need for people without the SRY gene to avoid contact with people with the SRY gene is no greater than for people with the SRY gene.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 03:11 PM
35

I can say that among the suffragettes there were plenty of conservatives and outright fascists, and the bourgeois media still glorify the right-wing suffragettes much more than the left-wing ones.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 05:59 AM
11

I have long noted that their fight against patriarchy is the fight against men's rights subreddits, not the UN, for example.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 11:03 PM
8

Peterson is a clear no. We need to create a leftist movement for men's rights based on a competent synthesis of socialist and masculist ideas.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 06:44 AM
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He was quite enthusiastic when he said “Women, generally speaking, are better than you men are”. https://youtu.be/KmY5LmaZImk?si=78-W4JP3Gdx0dYHg
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 12:55 AM
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Masculinity is not the same as being a man, femininity is not the same as being a woman. Like price is not the same as value. The problem is that when it comes to men, the concepts of men and masculinity are unduly conflated. The liberal press constantly writes about masculinity and men, as if men are obliged to be masculine in principle. That is, liberalism does not want to stray far from conservatism in this matter. In the contemprorary US, for example, the idea that "not all adult people with…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/25 10:40 PM
15

men in power do x there is no evidence that women in power would not do x Consequently, there is no evidence that x is a consequence of patriarchy Logic, basic course.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 01:08 AM
10

Minister for women is not the answer to problem with gender discrimination.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/25 03:05 AM
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Men kill women every single week in the UK They kill both women and men. There is no evidence that their violence against women is special.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/25 01:43 AM
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If boys see themselves being weaned off misogyny by the same people who romanticize misandry, the effect will be the opposite.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 06:34 PM
6

Honestly, I hate the liberal discourse around masculinity. First, just because Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne identify as men and act differently doesn't mean they're displaying different "types of masculinity." Secondly, the existence of Peter Parker does not eliminate the lack of male characters with emphasized femininity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 03:44 PM
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Actually, men have not yet had time to gain the right to emphasized femininity, but already face shaming for emphasized masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 06:39 AM
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Hitler started World War II with the words "I am not going to kill women and children." The organizers of genocides know how well gynopopulism works in propaganda. Netanyahu knew that if he continued bombing without releasing the female hostages, it сould be perceived negatively even by his supporters. That's why he released the female hostages. But few will feel sorry for the male hostages. So he resumed the bombing without waiting for the release of the male hostages. Of course, reminding peop…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/25 08:02 AM
2

Most people who have no property on means of manufacturing but produce the majority of manufacturing products are men. Of course, this is not the only injustice under capitalism, but it is a very important one, and the left should not neglect this fact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/25 06:05 PM
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Titanic really pisses off vulgar intersectionalists because it clearly demonstrates a case where belonging to the group "rich" was analogous to belonging to the group "woman", and they are trying to propagate that women are analogous to the poor, black, LGBTQ people, etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/25 08:18 AM
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I don't know what's going on at sea, but on land the United Nations rescued women, but not men, from Bosnia when the genocide unfolded there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/25 08:15 AM
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if someone says the sky is ruled by flying donkeys, you don't bother treating it as a position worth arguing against In fact, dialectical materialism has always argued with idealism as a principle in general, raising dialectical arguments against idealism. When the left abandoned dialectics and started to simply say “you are stupid, you don’t understand, there is no point in explaining to you,” this was one of the reasons for their defeats.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 02:04 PM
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I expected references to academic literature, with citations directly supporting your specific assertion: the definitions of these terms are different in the context of genocide than it is in reference to other societal issues
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 02:00 PM
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First, men, including in the West, face classification, symbolization, discrimination and dehumanization. Second "the definitions of these terms is different in the context of genocide than it is in reference to other societal issues" ...besides your personal assertion that this is so, do you have anything to support this in the academic literature on genocide studies?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 01:34 PM
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There is no need to invent something that I did NOT state. What do you not like about my assertion that society's attitude toward men develops according to the 4 stages of the standard genocide model? I didn't claim anything beyond that. Which of the 4 points of the standard model of genocide against men does not exist?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 12:48 PM
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I don't explain through the concept of genocide. I just observe the first 4 stages of genocide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 12:39 PM
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I'm not saying this is a completed genocide. But maybe we shouldn't forget that men are overrepresented not only as owners of the means of social production, but also as homeless people? And that we need to build a system to reduce male homelessness?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 12:23 PM
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Of course, not everything that reached stage 4 turned into complete genocide. But unfortunately, genocide often begins to receive serious attention after the fact, but while it is at stage 4, it is often perceived as something ordinary, like someone always dehumanizes someone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/25 06:54 AM
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"83% of single parents" Perhaps then it would not have been worthwhile to protect only motherhood and not fatherhood in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which is a reference point for legislators and human rights organizations around the world?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/25 10:46 PM
3

I've seen plenty of self-identified feminists (not in Britain, but the world isn't limited to Britain) say that feminism "is not about equality, it's about women's rights."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 11:18 PM
3

"male only drafts are rooted in misogyny" I did not see feminist protests at the Finnish embassies against the misogyny of the Finnish authorities.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 10:53 PM
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Excuse me, where does "healthy masculinity" come from then? This is still the rhetoric of maintaining gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 10:45 PM
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The article cites statistics on violence against women, but of course does not cite parallel statistics on violence against men. People who do not support male-discriminatory penal populism need to be made to look like misogynistic monsters.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/25 05:30 AM
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Further proof that, contrary to political technology narratives, right-wing does not mean pro-male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/25 04:52 AM
11

For the destruction of the imperialist system and for the understanding that increasing the role of women within imperialist bourgeoisie (the goal of the bourgeois feminism) does not lead and will not lead to men's liberation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/25 12:59 AM
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Ms Hancock said: "It is important to state that this is not about ignoring the needs of boys..." This IS about ignoring the needs of boys. If you put a boy in prison and not put a girl in prison for the same thing, you are not criminalizing the thing, you are criminalizing being a boy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/25 04:33 PM
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Femaleness should not be considered analogous to blackness, nor maleness analogous to whiteness. There are many aspects in which the opposite is true. Why should men, while being the majority of homeless people, be given additional problems in employment by affirmative actions in favor of women? Why don't gender equality rankings take into account that men are overrepresented as homeless?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/25 05:10 AM
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I think that the fact that some children are born into a bourgeois family and others into a proletarian family is bad and it would be better if classes did not exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/25 08:45 PM
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Sure, there are plenty of misogynistic young guys who need to be critically portrayed on screen. But there is also the femosphere, and its members need to be critically portrayed on screen, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/25 09:23 PM
5

Yes, when the names Tommy J. Curry and T. Hasan Johnson are mentioned, vulgar intersectionalists who say "ooh, misandry it's like reverse racism" usually shut up and do not know what to answer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/25 08:53 PM
6

American Beauty
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/25 07:47 PM
10

One should be afraid not of the dog that barks loudly, but of the one that bites painfully. The masculinity of conservatism, nationalism, fascism serves as a mask for misandry. The right-wingers simply declares that what is objectively a violation of men's rights is not a violation of the rights of "real" men. They always divide men into men and sissies. The misandry of the right-wingers is more implicit, but that doesn't mean it's any less dangerous. They can shout that they adore men. But in f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/25 07:46 AM
5

If a man assaults a man, that's the fault of misandry? If a man assaults a man, the motive of misandry must not be discounted. If a man assaults a woman, the motive of misogyny must not be presumed or assumed because of the perpetrator's gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/25 04:00 AM
5

Absolutely. Misogynistic crimes must be classified as misogynistic not because of aggressor’s gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/25 02:19 AM
8

Exactly. The gender of the aggressor is irrelevant in the context of whether the violent act must be classified as misandrist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 08:38 PM
3

I hope there is no need to explain such elementary things as that men can be misandrists, women can be misogynists, humans can be misanthropes?..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/25 04:52 PM
1

If positions of power are occupied by misandry men, then this can be subsumed under the definition of patriarchy, and it will create institutional misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 02:36 AM
2

The existence of misandrist men refutes the conception of the impossibility of the existence of institutional misandry under patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 01:41 AM
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On the one hand, he mentions many interesting facts about discrimination against men, which for some unknown reason are not interesting for modern mainstream historical jurisprudence. On the other hand, he really did adhere to the misogynistic idea that, for example, women should not be given the right to vote. This is sad. However, the fact that Emmeline Pankhurst adhered to the misandrist idea that men should not be given the right not to serve in the army does not bother anyone. So why is Pan…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/25 01:06 AM
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In fact, Black male scholars have long pointed out that contemporary intersectional identity politics harms Black men very hard because it presupposes, despite clear evidence to the contrary, that they are privileged relative to Black women. Johnson, T. H. (2018). Challenging the myth of Black male privilege. Spectrum: A Journal on Black Men, 6(2), 21-42.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/25 11:31 PM
19

When the National Coalition for Men raised the issue of military registration, it ended with the Republican-dominated Supreme Court of the United States refusing to hear their appeal.
/r/MensRights14/02/25 02:19 AM
0

The roots of modern accentuated homophobia towards homosexual men and accentuated transphobia towards transgender women are in the idea that those born with a penis should be prepared to become cannon fodder.
/r/MensRights12/02/25 12:00 PM
3

"When I say misandry, I include internalized misandry." It's a pity that this has to be emphasized at all. Because as soon as someone says the word "misandry," people immediately start hearing "women oppress men." Although the word doesn't mean that at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/25 06:14 AM
21

Criticism of forced circumcision of boys is usually taken as a source of jokes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 07:20 PM
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There will be no men's liberation until men are given the RIGHT to be liberated. The profeminist men's liberation movement pretends that men have all the rights, and that men only need to reflect on masculinity and that's it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/25 04:41 PM
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If one woman is a fool or an asshole, it doesn't mean that one should write "women are evil". It's in the same vein as "men are trash" etc. Toxic generalization should not be welcomed in any kind of human rights activism.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 02:22 PM
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I am categorically against the kind of feminism in which mothers and childcare workers (of whom there are a disproportionate number among women) are not guilty of anything and are not responsible for anything. Many of them are outright sexists and treat boys the sexist way.
/r/MensRights01/02/25 01:23 PM
7

Special protection of motherhood is included in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Special protection of fatherhood is not included. These laws have very deep roots that must be fought.
/r/MensRights31/01/25 08:58 AM
2

I'm fed up with the use of the term "masculinity" in the liberal press.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/25 09:04 AM
7

There is a slightly crazy old Russian director Nikita Mikhalkov who made a film about World War II in which a dying soldier asks an underage nurse "show me your boobs".
/r/MensRights25/01/25 08:56 AM
40

Britain: Trans women are not women. Also Britain: Violence against men must be classified as violence against women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/25 09:18 PM
51

War is pease. Freedom is slavery. Violence against men is misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/25 07:53 PM
4

Britain defeated Napoleon in a defensive war without conscription. Guess who successfully lobbied to bring conscription to Britain about a hundred years later.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/25 03:39 AM
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To hell with a state that cannot motivate its citizens to fight for it without legal coercion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/25 03:36 AM
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In fact, in the feminist academic literature of recent years it is acknowledged that working definitions of the concepts of "patriarchy" and "misogyny" have not yet been developed. Different theorists understand these terms differently, but they all agree that this is what men's rights activists should fight against if they want to solve men's issues, and the roots of this theory are actually in feminist psychoanalysis, in the fantasies of psychoanalysts about powerful and homophobic and sexist …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 11:06 AM
18

"Man, your issues are caused by patriarchy! Fight patriarchy!" "Okay what is patriarchy? Where it is?" "YOU are the patriarchy! Shoot yourself in the cheek, lose everything completely, and you will be free."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 10:06 AM
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"Men and women are different" is the very idea on which laws that discriminate against men are based. Why does the Universal Declaration of Human Rights not protect fatherhood along with motherhood? Because the creators of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights considered men and women to be very different. A woman can become an important parent for a child, but a man cannot. There is no point in being an activist for men's rights if you look for the basis in the idea that men and women are d…
/r/MensRights22/01/25 09:50 AM
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Patriarchy is destroyed very simply: it implements voucher privatization of property in favor of women. This way you will destroy patriarchy without destroying capitalism. The problem is that discrimination against men is not caused by the gender identity of those in power, contrary to the opposite claims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 09:29 AM
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In fact, the fact that in English the word man used to mean both man and human plays a role in the history of the erasure of the men's rights movement. In some cases, for example, when corporal punishment was applied only to men, the fight for its abolition was precisely a fight for the rights of male men. However, this is erased and appears to be a struggle for human rights in general.
/r/MensRights20/01/25 10:41 PM
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Finland is living proof that under imperialism, the reducing of patriarchality does not reduce the perception of men as cannon fodder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 10:06 PM
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This is how bourgeois democracy works! If you are more concerned that under contemprory capitalism there are more men at the very top than women, and you completely forget that the majority of men are those who carry out the majority of social manufacturing with their own hands, without even owning the means of manufacturing, if you tell them that you hate them, if you cause them psychological traumas, they will not thank you for it. And of the two imperialist parties that were presented to them…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 09:54 PM
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Feminist “misandry only harms men’s fragile feelings” is rooted in conservative “men shouldn't be so sensitive, or they're not real men, they’re sissies that need to be bullied”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 07:46 AM
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Gen-Z men do not want to vote against Republican Party because a huge part of Democratic Party’s core electorate promote explicit misandry. If you write “kill all men”, “men are trash”, “stop saying not all men”, “I hate men”, “misandry isn't real”, “misandry doesn't exist”, “misandry only harms men’s fragile feelings”, you invest in Trump's victory. 4B movement is stupid, they haven't learned. They're going to lose in 2028 year again. They do not want to understand that their vulgar intersectio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/25 07:43 AM
3

Hamas at least uses female suicide bombers since 2004.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/25 09:45 AM
11

This is true primarily for those capitalists who hire creative intelligentsia, but the creative intelligentsia itself can create primarily for the purpose of getting its message across. Incidentally, the message can very well be conveyed in Aesopian language, understandable only to a few, if society condemns such a message.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/25 09:35 PM
5

I wish I knew any people from creative intelligentsia who support left-wing masculist ideas. While these are in deficit, I believe that what is becoming disproportionately popular among left masculists contains the seeds of left masculism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/25 09:27 PM
21

There is no male gaze. There are gender stereotypes about men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/25 07:19 PM
33

Because in many countries, self-proclaimed leftists demonstrate explicit misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/25 04:56 PM
3

I believe we need to conceptualize value the way that if a state needs conscription, it doesn't pay soldiers for the full value of their labour, just like capitalists don't pay for the full value to factory workers if they take surplus value. Actually, legal coercion is even more exploiting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 04:08 PM
5

Imperialism views working class men as cannon fodder. Cannon fodder does not deserve rights. Cannon fodder should simply learn quickly that it must go and die for imperialist interests. It is no wonder that misandry has increased synchronously with the aggravation of imperialism. That is why I am for the left path, and for a more left path than the US Democratic Party offers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/25 12:55 AM
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Obama have read Richard Reeves and started to shame Black men, telling them they were sexist and therefore didn't want to vote for Harris after that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/25 11:41 AM
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The radical feminist idea that misogyny is inevitable as long as there is patriarchy (i.e. as long as there are more men in power than women) actually has much in common with Zionist ideology, which postulates that without a Jewish state, antisemitism cannot be defeated even theoretically; that is, that the alienation of some national or gender groups from others is natural, and not socially structured by production relations. That is, it is not capitalism and imperialism that need to prohibit a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/25 08:35 AM
12

Identifying any criticism of feminism with misogyny is like identifying any criticism of Zionism with antisemitism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/25 08:20 AM
8

There's a very underrated movie Jaded (1998), in which a female detective, clearly well trained in dealing with male rapists, suddenly finds herself having to track down female rapists, and the law doesn't classify their actions as rape.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/25 01:13 PM
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It is impossible to liberate men without giving them the right to be liberated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/24 02:41 AM
15

I hope there are leftist masculists in Japan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/24 10:50 PM
14

By the way, Democrats point-blank fail to understand that MRAs are swing voters, not fundamentally Republican. And that swing voters need to be fought for. Yes, while young Ruth Bader Ginsburg was defending men's rights in court in Moritz v. Commissioner, Weinberger v. Wiesenfeld, Orr v. Orr., while Democratic judges ruled to overturn laws that discriminate against men in such cases, men were quite positively disposed towards the Democratic Party. What did Warren Farrell call for? He essentially…
/r/MensRights16/12/24 02:32 AM
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Because against the background of what others say, his statements start to seem more or less good. But as for the neurosexist statements, I do not support him. Boys must be completely equalized in rights with girls, and no way according to the principle of "boys and girls are different", but only according to the principle of "both boys and girls are diverse".
/r/MensRights16/12/24 12:50 AM
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"Perhaps surprisingly, during the 1970s, these activists become enthusiastic promoters of the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA), which prohibited denying “Equality of rights under the law…on account of sex.”" Oh, really surprisingly. How did they can?
/r/MensRights16/12/24 12:35 AM
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It's "drop in the ocean" as long as you're biased into using a very narrow definition of misandry. Once you accept the definition that misandry, like misogyny, can be explicit, implicit, racialized, internalized, and not try to artificially narrow the definition of misandry while expanding the definition of misogyny (feminists often include in the definition of misogyny not only hatred of women but also hatred of feminine people, not only hostility towards women but also benevolent sexism toward…
/r/EverydayMisandry14/12/24 08:52 AM
5

Men are a vulnerable group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/12/24 07:07 PM
20

In the US, some people would probably call Adam Smith far-left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/24 12:09 AM
27

When a conservative lobbies for a state to be able to prohibit a citizen from having an abortion, the conservative is not prioritizing the interests of the individual; the conservative is prioritizing the whims of the state.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/24 10:28 PM
15

I highly recommend that the men's movement popularize Adam Jones's research on Rwanda. Oh, this is an inconvenient topic for left-liberal feminists, very inconvenient.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/24 09:28 AM
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Do you seriously not understand what's wrong with "we serve all women, including upper class white cisgender heterosexual gender-conforming women without disabilities" and "we only serve men if they are not cisgender, white, heterosexual, etc."? And how about serving men AS men? That's vulgar intersectionality: not understanding that men, including men of any minority, have MEN'S needs. Black men, when disproportionately killed by cops, are killed in part because they are men; not every cop who …
/r/MensRights02/12/24 05:44 AM
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Sometimes a party is judged by its electorate. And if the principled electorate of a party is made up of those who constantly say "men are trash", "I wish misandry was real", "kill all men", "misandry only hurts fragile male feelings", and the party is in no hurry to tell off this category of people, and sometimes even winks, then it is not surprising that men are not eager to vote for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/24 06:56 PM
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For some reason, feminists don't take to the streets with posters against this terrible oppression of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/24 08:28 PM
11

Good job, feminist friends. Now, to be fair, conduct a study of women who commit domestic violence against men, compared to women who do not, to see if they think men are often discriminated against. My hypothesis is that those women who commit domestic violence against men will be more likely to say there is no serious discrimination against men.
/r/MensRights26/11/24 07:37 AM
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Many feminists only mention benevolent sexism as a mouthpiece for opponents: "it's not discrimination against men, it's benevolent sexism against women, from which women ultimately suffer." I don't see them going out into the streets with placards against cases of benevolent sexism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/24 05:24 AM
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The Ministry of Justice in the UK is now under the control of a TERF who wants to abolish women's prisons and retain men's ones.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/24 03:46 AM
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In many cases it is much more relevant to say "internalized misandry." At least when feminists talk about cases where women follow toxic models of femininity, they say it is internalized misogyny, not toxic femininity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/24 11:33 AM
15

Mainstream feminism is bourgeois feminism, and of course it tries to glorify Susan B. Anthony and Emmeline Pankhurst more than Emma Goldman, Rosa Luxemburg and Sylvia Pankhurst.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/24 01:03 AM
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In Britain, one of the most influential activists for legal introducing male-only compulsory military service was Emmeline Pankhurst, still one of the most glorified suffragettes in feminist historiography.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/24 01:54 PM
10

Nancy Levit. "Feminism for men: Legal ideology and the construction of maleness." UCLA L. Rev. 43 (1995): 1037.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/24 09:56 PM
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If this was a community of fathers sexualizing babies, they would already be lying twisted in a pretrial detention center.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/24 03:26 PM
5

As a left-wing masculist, I understand that the bourgeoisie (including the female bourgeoisie) and bourgeois bureaucracy not only view working-class women as incubators of the workforce, but also view working-class men as potential cannon fodder. Bourgeois feminism tries to present the matter as if everything revolves around the fact that men are predominantly in leadership positions, although this is far from the main factor in the production of gender discrimination.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/24 08:54 AM
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A conspiracy theory has already appeared in English-speaking 4B spaces, as if offended men falsified information in Wikipedia about the 4B movement being created by South Korean transphobes.
/r/MensRights12/11/24 06:19 AM
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The Democratic Party is being foolish when it tries to portray the Republican Party as a party for white men, rather than a party that contributes to men's suicide rates, including white men's suicide rates, in red states. It would be far more advantageous for it to return to the strategy of the young Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who, without abandoning her feminist identity, defended men's rights in cases like Moritz v. Commissioner, Weinberger v. Wiesenfeld, Orr v. Orr. But today's Democratic Party ha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/24 06:51 PM
25

The Democratic Party is to blame for not campaigning for men's rights. There is plenty of evidence that the Republican Party is hurting men, but Democrats don't voice it. They want to have a reputation of party for women, to a large extent for those women who say "I hate men", "Men are trash", "I wish misandry were real" etc. Men are fed up with the Democratic Party and especially its misandrist electorate. And this is stupid on the part of the Democrats. They could at least voice the facts wher…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/24 06:57 PM
8

Here — yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 01:32 PM
85

Even though Bernie Sanders doesn't shy away from the gynopulist expression "women and children" when referring to the genocide in Gaza, I still sympathize with him more than other Democrats.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/24 04:56 AM
20

Trump actually mumbled the phrase "manhood is under attack".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 04:14 PM
45

Because the Democrats didn't fight for men's votes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 03:59 PM
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I'm afraid the Democrats will now play the card "Obama and Biden were voted for, but Clinton and Harris weren't, because American men are misogynists, we didn't spank them enough."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 07:20 AM
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In general, every Democratic voter who tweeted and posted “I hate men, Men are trash, Misandry only hurts male fragile feelings, Misandry isn’t real, Misandry doesn’t exist” invested fully in Trump’s victory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 07:05 AM
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The best campaigning for groups like Black lesbians to vote for Democrats is done by Republicans. Democrats wouldn't lose their votes if they added a little masculism to their rhetoric. But ignoring the male vote is foolish on their part.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 06:58 AM
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As for the verified double standards in this particular matter, judicial practice says the opposite. If child sexual abuse is committed by a couple of a man and a woman, the man is considered the main offender, and the woman the accomplice. If there is only one offender, then again men get longer sentences.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/24 07:57 PM
2

By the way, Biden was not shy about once saying "if you don't vote for me, you're not Black."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/24 10:27 AM
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"Her reply was that only a man can rape a woman" I strongly advise against connecting your life with people with such views. They are very abusive and toxic.
/r/MensRights04/11/24 11:20 PM
12

The point is not that, but that in 2024 the political mainstream still divides men into real and fake. They cannot understand that all men are real and that this is an axiom for sensible people.
/r/MensRights04/11/24 05:04 AM
3

Men are victims of war because men are viewed by mainstream policymakers as cannon fodder because of their gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/24 12:54 AM
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Mainstream feminists use the same rhetoric towards manhood today that racists, including mainstream feminists at least before 3rd wave, have been using towards Black people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/24 05:58 PM
6

It is much easier to reliably count bodies after suicides. How were attempts counted?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/24 01:32 AM
8

American feminism is Americentriс like American football.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/24 01:30 AM
4

There is a wild level of internalized-misandrist chivalry in Britain.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/24 10:38 PM
2

If a country introduces male conscription during aggressive war during defensive war during peaceful time it means this country ALWAYS views men as cannon fodder, it means this country ALWAYS treats men as cannon fodder. It means laws in this country are in general written based on assumption that men are cannon fodder, in the end of the day. Wars just remove masks. Working-class men are totally alienated from bourgeois men in power, and they are not responsible for bourgeois men’s actions. Ever…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/24 07:49 PM
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We do not say that misandry = women who say “I hate men” sometimes. Many misandrists are men. Many misandrists do not say that they hate men, just like many misogynists do not say that they hate women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/24 10:04 PM
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Wars remove masks: policymakers view men as cannon fodder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/24 07:52 AM
8

"It's from the CDC." By the way, these statistics are often presented without the clarifying note “in the US”.
/r/MensRights25/10/24 02:49 PM
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I just ask how this can be verified at all. In the case of suicides, there are corpses that can be counted. There are more corpses of men. How were suicide attempts counted?
/r/MensRights25/10/24 02:46 PM
13

One of the very toxic forms of masculinity is fempopulist chivalry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/24 12:34 AM
34

Tommy J. Curry “The Man-Not: Race, Class, Genre, and the Dilemmas of Black Manhood”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/24 10:07 PM
13

The researchers admit that some people, including feminists, are misandrists. The researchers generally let it slip that they have found quite a few misandry among feminists, but they emphasize that there is no more of it among them than among non-feminists and men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/24 01:29 PM
2

My slogan is "The past wasn't male." All class societies was misandrist.
/r/MensRights17/10/24 11:06 AM
15

Not from swing voters in swing states.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/24 12:29 AM
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In 2016, the “vote for us or we’ll call you a sexist” approach didn’t really work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 11:06 PM
9

Because white men are seen as the ones who will vote for Trump anyway, and Black men are seen as the ones who whose feelings should be appealed to a few weeks before voting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 08:03 PM
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Many "trans-inclusive" feminists immediately turn on the "no true Scotsman" when trans women who say or do something that they strongly associate with men appear. At the same time, for some reason they say that they are against gender stereotypes. Although in fact, the level of their stereotypes is quite large enough that they can safely be called conservatives, gender essentialists and sexists. It's fashionable these days to call oneself a feminist, being a conservative who covers up one's desi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/24 01:54 AM
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I definitely don't. Misandry is a common issue outside of feminism, and not all feminists are misandrists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/24 05:44 AM
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They demonize them the way "there are few real men today, only sissies."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/24 09:54 AM
16

Rowling is being condemned for a reason, namely calling trans women men. By the way, she hates men's rights movement and that's why she uses "men's rights movement" as a slur for transgender rights movement as though being a men's rights activism is something bad.
/r/MensRights11/10/24 06:56 AM
21

"Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/24 01:54 AM
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Mothers and female teachers in modern Western countries play a major role in raising children. Therefore, a huge number of men who faced gender policing in childhood remember not least the gender policing that women perpetrated towards them. Are we going to ignore their experience?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 05:04 PM
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Imperialism treats men and boys as cannon fodder not because people in official positions predominantly have male gender identity. It’s not even because the ownership of the means of production is registered in the names of cisgender men in heterosexual couples – that’s not the main thing. It's not about patriarchy — gender-balansed imperialism will do the same. Female bourgeoisie does the same. Pink capitalism does the same. Men are viewed as cannon fodder because it's essentially a part of imp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 08:29 AM
26

Stop fear words “misandry” and “men's rights”. Or women will vote for Trump if they hear this? Ah, the majority of voting white women do that already.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 11:50 AM
13

Male bisexuality was erased literally until the very last years. To this day, the English Wikipedia, citing the highly dubious sexologist Michael Bailey, whose works on some other, but related topics have already been withdrawn from scientific journals, writes that there are more bisexual women than bisexual men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/24 11:12 PM
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Cultural feminism and pink capitalism have played a significant role in discrimination against men, just as they have played a role in devaluing the manhood of queer men with their "when I say men are trash, I don't mean gay men, trans men, etc." Cultural feminism and pink capitalism are serious discriminators of men, although they are not the only ones. For cultural feminism and pink capitalism, a gay or trans man is a token because he is not really a man to them and supposedly will not claim t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 04:19 AM
3

Femininity ≠ women, consequently, hatred towards femininity ≠ hatred towards women. Anyway, it is discrimination against men in the right to be feminine, it is not discrimination against femininity in the right to be expressed by men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 04:12 PM
5

I use the term anti-feminine misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/24 12:49 PM
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Mainstream feminism which is represented by various journalists from bourgeois magazines, politicians from bourgeois parties, etc. is liberal feminism. Liberal in the real sense of the word. For a socialist, it is not very important whether a woman in a top position takes your surplus value or a man. But liberal feminists care about what changes at the top. What happens at the bottom is mostly not that important to them. That's why official gender equality ratings published in bourgeois magazine…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 09:26 PM
77

What is called toxic masculinity can in fact be called internalized misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 08:46 PM
49

Interesting that according to Wikipedia definitions, the term male gaze refers to heterosexual men’s gaze, while the term female gaze includes bisexual and homosexual women's gaze. Typical double standards on sexuality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 06:06 PM
19

“Male gaze” is a gender-essentialist and heteronomantive term. There are no exclusively male psychological traits, including type of gaze.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 06:01 PM
8

Palestinian little children are not homophobes, they are little children.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 05:08 PM
30

Men are afraid of other men. Men are also very sensitive and the phrase "I hate men" hurts their mental state. What do they want to say by emphasizing this? That only women have the right to be sensitive and afraid of men? Well, they let it slip that they support traditional, non-reverse sexism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 03:47 PM
10

I wouldn't say there isn't a rape culture in prisons. At least because there is a lot of sexual abuse in prisons, and very few prosecutions related to prison sexual abuse. Which suggests that many prisoners and police are quite lenient about sexual abuse itself.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 06:31 PM
13

“Only sexist men care about men issues, because they are afraid of feminism” Ruth Bader Ginsburg when she sought to overturn laws that discriminated against men was probably a sexist man who was afraid of feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 07:38 AM
7

I have found a comment by Warren Farrell on YouTube that praises Andrew Yung’s understanding of the issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 05:07 AM
89

Who are male advocates between American politicians?..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 09:43 PM
26

If a person calls themselves an activist for men's rights and at the same time does not fight for the equal right of men to be feminine, then they have issues with logic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 09:08 PM
2

Unfortunately, even many socialists do not understand the dialectical unity of economic exploitation and conscription and think that paying a soldier at full cost is declaring that he has a duty to society and giving him food and some money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/08/24 09:14 AM
64

Is misandry extremism and terrorism? Men are killed more often, men receive more harsh sentences than women for the same crimes, people who perpetrate violence against women receive more harsh sentences than perpetrators of violence against men...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/24 06:34 AM
132

Conservatism views men as cannon fodder for imperialist goals.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 05:57 AM
161

The main argument for “misandry isn't real” is narrowing of definition of misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 05:50 AM
7

"And these are actually not debatable points." Such phrases usually cause the opposite effect to the desired one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 05:49 PM
7

Russia also has a host of laws that discriminate against men, which the US does not have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 05:44 PM
17

Abolishing draft is not enough, we need to abolish draft culture. It's like it's not enough to make rape illegal when there is still rape culture.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/24 01:08 AM
4

For some unknown reason, I am reminded of those who insist on citing statistics that violence against Black people is often committed by other Black people, as if this should somehow change the assessment of the situation of the Black person for the better, or as if couldn't be linked with racism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 07:37 AM
16

“If you believe in equality then you are a feminist”. “If you believe that misandry exists then you are an antifeminist”. I probably both.
/r/MensRights11/08/24 06:24 AM
25

Many Star Wars fans think Rose did a bad thing by stopping Finn's suicide attack.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 04:55 AM
1

Actually, many feminists like to talk about how the fact that the vast majority of Black people killed by cops were men and boys is less oppressive than misogynoir, that Black women face both sexism and racism while Black men face only racism.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 05:29 AM
1

"can be = are" The author should open a logic textbook.
/r/MensRights09/08/24 05:18 AM
4

Bourgeois mass media like BBC probably don't differentiate between white men and wealthy white men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 06:00 AM
10

People socialize boys the way “don’t hurt girls, but if you hit a boy, it’s not something terrible, boys will be boys”. It doesn’t prevent sexual abuse towards women (because boys are not learned that other people boundaries are important, they are not even learned that their own boundaries are important, they could hear “if a girl wear a short skirt it doesn’t allow to you to violate her boundaries”, but they don’t hear “you can wear a short skirt and people are not allowed to violate your boun…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/24 07:12 PM
29

Special protection of fatherhood, unlike special protection of motherhood, is not spelled out in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. This is what we need to talk about, I think. This is clearly what many people have looked at when writing many laws and what many judges look at when making judicial decisions. For example, this line is also present in the Constitution of Russia and, on its basis, the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation regularly defends laws that discriminate aga…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/24 02:50 PM
2

Where do you see focusing on women? We focus on discrimination against men, not on women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/24 02:08 PM
1

Men perpetrate violence against women. Men perpetrate violence against men. Society tries to prevent male violence against women. Society doesn't try to prevent male violence against men. It doesn't classify it as gender-based, it doesn't call it misandrist, it doesn't allow men with PTSD and anxiety disorders caused by male violence to have the same opportunity as women to receive a spaces in which they won't be surrounded by men...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/24 02:03 PM
1

As arguments for “women live worse than men” and “misandry isn’t real”, by-other-men arguments are definitely irrelevant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/24 01:46 PM
25

Yes, you, The Guardian, with your mass publication of articles about how only women experience sexism, that misandry does not exist, that misandry does not harm, allowed this to happen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 09:43 PM
11

Many Russian feminists actively deny the existence of discrimination against men in Russia and elsewhere. At least the younger generations of feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/24 02:26 PM
12

Khamtokhu and Aksenchik v. Russia, an unsuccessful case before the ECHR. The ECHR decided that there was no discrimination against men in the fact that only men can receive life sentences according to Article 57(2) of Criminal Code of Russia, and that this is humanism towards women, not discrimination against men. The Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation has also repeatedly ruled that such laws do not discriminate against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/24 01:05 PM
18

Russian law literally obliges judges to give women significantly more lenient sentences for particularly serious crimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/24 09:09 AM
10

Power structures are male-dominated, but it doesn't mean they are not misandrist-dominated. At least average politicians’ attitudes towards men would probably be considered misogynistic by many feminists if the politicians had these attitudes towards women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 05:04 AM
46

Feminism must include criticism for bourgeois women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 01:37 AM
3

Of all journalists killed in 2021, 11% were women. In 2020, this was 6%. STOP TARGETING WOMEN JOURNALISTS! (c) UN Women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 04:57 AM
7

The UN is the heir to those who bullied men who survived the Titanic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 04:45 AM
18

It is important to remember that victims of false accusations of sexual violence are potential victims of sexual violence, which the false accusers are well aware of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 11:03 PM
4

Hating feminine men is hating men. If they don't understand that, they haven't fully abandoned gender essentialism.
/r/MensRights30/07/24 03:36 PM
6

I often see an analogy between misandry and black racism and heterophobia. Although in my opinion, this analogy is clearly incorrect. At least because the characteristic of a male has similarities with the characteristic of a Black person, for example, during the Vietnam War, Black skin color and male gender clearly increased the likelihood that one would be used as cannon fodder. Also, both characteristics increase the likelihood that one will be perceived as a potential sex offender and not pe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/24 03:55 AM
4

General rule: don't point people's gender out when you talk with them. An exception may be for patients, or for people offering sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 01:15 PM
12

The majority of white women in the US are going to vote for Trump.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 12:17 AM
26

UN, Bernie Sanders, English Wikipedia, etc. use the “women and children” narrative as if men and boys are not overrepresented as victims of the Gaza war. In addition, there is talk that women should be released from Gaza, and men should be left to die, as was the case in Srebrenica.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 06:41 PM
14

My auto-translator into Russian translated the phrase "Palestinian teen raped in Israeli custody" as "Палестинская девочка-подросток изнасилована в израильской тюрьме" (Palestinian teenage girl raped in Israeli custody).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 06:35 PM
4

In fact, a big part of critical work in contemporary academic feminism is focused on semantics. Because feminists of the 2nd and 3rd waves left a lot of work with unverified, confusing and gender-essentialist terminology. One can pretend as much as they like that “male gaze” is not a heteronormative and not a gender-essentialist term, but this will not stop it from being heteronormative and gender-essentialist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 11:20 AM
7

The problem is that there are no gender-egalitarian societies. There is normalized harsh gender policing primarily towards men and boys in Western countries. The Gender Equality Index is an index of the index's creators' views on what gender equality is.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 08:39 PM
11

I see no reason to give in to those who do not understand that there are rights that men lack.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 02:33 PM
5

This will happen when people understand that not serving in the army is a much more important human right than is commonly believed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/24 04:02 AM
3

It will go away — when the labour of soldiers would receive its full price, e.g. so high that conscription, even during defensive war, won't be necessary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/24 01:13 AM
12

Islamophobic violence is often closely linked with misandry, but the discourse around it is about “women and children”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 07:25 PM
11

I don't support all this gender-essentialist linking men with masculinity. Men are diverse in their preferred gender expressions. Gender policing is a form of abuse that should not be legal, especially towards children. The phrase “you're a boy, you should not be a sissy” is a valid reason of arrest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 12:19 PM
2

I support both masculism and democratic socialism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 02:40 AM
1

We don't live near the end of history. We live in the world in which authorities still don't even understand elementary things — for example, that women can rape. Future generations will facepalm on this era.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/24 07:17 AM
1

They forbid misandry but believe that misandry doesn't exist. Consequently, they don't forbid misandry. although if they had read Karl Popper, they would have drawn a different conclusion...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 09:57 PM
3

Those who don't like presumption of innocence probably prefer burning those who can't prove that they are not witches.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 09:49 PM
2

Not exactly. Actually, they say that some people are misandrists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 05:39 PM
5

There are two important moments in this article. Firstly, in one sentence it admits that some feminists are misandrists, so if someone dismisses it as proof of the non-existence of misandry, it would be stupid of them. Secondly, the authors, in fact, blurt out that they found quite a lot of misandry among feminists, they just found it in men, in non-feminists too, and they appeal to this. They don’t have a clear “feminists don’t have misandry”, they have “feminists don’t have more of it than men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 05:15 PM
88

In fact, it was scholars in Black Male Studies such as Tommy J. Curry who criticized intersectional feminists' views on Black men to such an extent that they still haven't found an answer in academic papers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 07:52 PM
3

On the one hand, I don't agree that in the second statement she blames men for not catcalling her. She blames culture for the idea that women should miss it. On the other hand, is this idea pervasive? Isn't the culture of cancel for being accused of perpetrating sexual harrassment already a part of the culture? I don’t want to defend her at all, by the way. Her article "Feminists don't hate men. But it wouldn't matter if we did" is a bunch of bullshit.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/24 03:54 PM
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I very much doubt that in Russia it’s Putin’s gender that matters. We can remember what Catherine the Great did in Ukraine and how she planned to use a huge number of men as cannon fodder to take over the Ottoman Empire.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 04:29 AM
22

Most judges in Russia are women, including Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/24 04:10 AM
11

Many TERFs are blatant and hostile misandrists. Besides, do you know how many times Trump has said that he admires (cis) women? However, this does not mean that he is not a misogynist from the position of those feminist theorists who view benevolent sexism towards women as manifestations of misogyny.
/r/EverydayMisandry30/06/24 09:39 PM
1

I think imperialism still reinforces the conscription culture. Men are still viewed as cannon fodder. Perhaps gender-balanced or matriarchal imperialist government would do the same.
/r/EverydayMisandry29/06/24 08:50 PM
20

Most people killed in Gaza are men and boys, but the discourse is about “women and children”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/24 08:20 PM
55

Just because courts don't classify violence against men as gender-based it doesn't mean misandry doesn't kill.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/24 03:29 AM
18

Exactly. The phrase “not all men” is used in response to those phrases that really sound generalizing. If they are too lazy to say “many,” “average,” then that’s their problem.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/06/24 03:24 AM
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It’s just that when men get the right not to be subjected to corporal punishment (which women already have at this point), it’s called an achievement in human rights, and when women get the right to vote (which men already have at this point), it’s called an achievement in women’s rights. Gynopopulist rhetoric leads to cognitive distortions. This may be considered androcentrism when men are confused with Men, but it is also a way of erasure of the history of discrimination against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 01:30 AM
1

Republican Party is a party of stupid sexists who view women as incubators and men as cannon fodder.
/r/MensRights21/06/24 05:45 AM
-1

An adult person with female gender identity.
/r/MensRights21/06/24 05:44 AM
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I don't belive in the shift, I rather believe that society remains misandrist. Perhaps today there is even a little (really a little) less perception of men as cannon fodder than before. Misandry used to be masked by the concepts like real man, gentleman - who deserves respect because he renounces his interests. Today, men have begun to realize that they do not have to give up their interests to remain real men, so misandrists have become more open.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/24 12:19 PM
24

Many people seriously think that in relation to real and imaginary misogynists "date men then" sounds witty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 11:28 PM
11

“Male gaze” is a gender-essentialist, heteronormative term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 04:17 PM
17

"Masculism is not needed, men's issues can be solved within the framework of feminism."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/24 10:28 PM
16

Because this argument is literally about nothing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 09:07 PM
5

I would prefer that the rehabilitation process for a man who does what I've described included not such therapy as "treat women the same as men, don't be a benevolent sexist towards them" but rather "treat men the same as women, don't be a hostile sexist towards them".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 08:54 PM
17

And this does not in any way negate the fact that if a man believes that violence is permissible only against men, then this must be taken into account in the sentence and rehabilitation process.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/24 05:07 PM
6

"Men will always be judged by society UNIVERSALLY for not being masculine enough to be providers, protectors, confident, assertive, ambitious, or even judge for not being masculine enough to be a straight man." I don't think so. If some people can come to the conclusion that gender policing is evil, then so can most people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/24 03:19 PM
2

Yeah, fascist states often report that the Duce enjoys enormous support in their state.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 11:58 AM
2

Russian people need national security primarily from their own fascist goverment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 11:42 AM
2

No. Russia is a country with a fascist regime, i.e. where the means of production, finance and power are in the hands of the extremely chauvinistic, the extremely reactionary, the extremely militaristic capitalists. And the official representative of their interests is Putin, an admirer of the works of the fascist philosopher Ivan Ilyin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 11:35 AM
2

Yes, I already realized that you sit in the zhozhek echo chamber a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 11:21 AM
9

Marx did not write that totalitarianism is needed. Marx wrote that censorship must be abolished in any case, since what is censored is always endowed with the aura of martyrdom.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 07:18 AM
11

Marx wrote that if a state introduces censorship, then people will create an aura of martyrdom for banned books, which will give them additional power. The USSR did not listen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 03:12 AM
16

We definitely should apply Marx’s core principle of what an economic exploitation is to men's issues, but we also need understand that economic exploitation exists not only in civilian sphere but also in military sphere. I mean, the labor of soldiers actually costs more than what they receive in countries where there is conscription. And we also need to understand one of the most important mistakes of Marxists of 19th-20th centuries that is viewing men as cannon fodder for World socialist revolu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/24 02:55 AM
11

We can popularize conservatism-as-misandry discourse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 08:08 AM
23

India is a country which really deserves big rallies against discrimination against men in front of its embassies. It's time for us to move on to international street activism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 07:38 AM
10

A classic of trans-inclusive radical feminism Catharine A. McKinnon wrote (in her article "Oncale v. Sundowner Offshore Services, Inc., 96-568, Amici Curiae Brief in Support of Petitioner") that direct discrimination against men exists and cautioned against comparing sexism against men to "reverse racism". I'm not her fan, but TERFism is actually much worse, inluding in issues of men's rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 05:19 AM
6

It reminds me Aloysia Inyumba's statement that "The genocide in Rwanda is a far-reaching tragedy that has taken a particularly hard toll on women. They now comprise 70 percent of the population, since the genocide chiefly exterminated the male population".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 04:30 AM
7

I don't support compromises with Putin, but it's a pity that Western people don't protest in front of embassies of Ukraine because of military draft and discriminatory violation of men's right to leave Ukraine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 08:29 PM
8

Yes, only volunteers can be on the frontline.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 08:24 PM
17

Yeah and Putin will draft men on Ukrainian territories for his next aggressive wars.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 08:13 PM
10

Average white women voted for Trump as well. Actually, conservatism is popular between white women and it's one of the reasons that many Democrats say so many gynopopulist things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 06:09 PM
4

In 2016, the world learned that American sociology is so-so sociology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 04:30 PM
11

I am for a reform of the penitentiary system that makes it clear that neither having a vagina nor having a female gender identity is not a reason to receive more protection from violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 04:08 PM
29

Unfortunately, transmisandry, as so as transmisogyny and misandry ain't uncommon in lesbian community.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 05:30 AM
29

Cultural feminism and pink capitalism teach women to have no out-group solidarity with men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/24 05:54 AM
83

Сourts just don't recognize cases of violence against men to be gender-based even if the perpetrator think that it's okay to assault men but not women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/24 03:24 AM
17

I am a trans woman and I am not a fan of Judith Butler and other followers of Hannah Arendt. Collective responsibility is a wrong idea. And I believe real opponents of gender essentialism understand that anti-feminine misandry is still misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/24 11:49 AM
41

I don't know what should be called patriarchy, but I don't believe that gendered issues are caused by male gender identities of politics and capitalists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 11:19 AM
28

"may scare other refuge residents" So what? Men also fear men. Should women who fear men be privileged in relation to men who fear men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 07:39 PM
68

Misandrists are the problem, including those who are male. One might think that there are few misandrists among criminals or that misandry has no influence on the commission of crimes. Internalized misandry actually significantly increases the amount of male-on-male violence, because many of the perpetrators think that violence against men is acceptable, at least more acceptable than against women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 02:43 AM
7

There are no such things as collective fault and collective innocence of social groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/24 12:11 AM
29

Gender policing from parents towards sons is a form of child abuse, not perfect treatment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/24 03:48 AM
22

People who live in countries without conscription - please, destroy the culture of normalization of conscription. Come out in front of the embassies of countries with conscription to protest. Otherwise, it will return to your countries too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/24 12:57 AM
4

The current state of academia is not good but not hopeless either. The number of academic works about anti-Black misandry grows, the number of academic works about discrimination against men relying on anti-stereotyping principle grows, the number of academic works about negative consequences of gender policing towards boys grows.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/24 05:11 PM
2

I think you overestimate bell hooks' influence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/24 12:07 PM
8

I think investments to countries with conscription should be banned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/24 09:24 AM
3

Do people in countries without conscription protest in front of the embassies of countries with conscription? No. This means that in countries without military conscription, men are still considered cannon fodder on a cultural level.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/24 09:14 PM
31

Many feminists, even intersectional feminists, erase feminine men. Just listen how they say "white cisgender heterosexual men" as though "cisgender heterosexual" means also masculine. Or they really don't understand privileges of feminine women in relation to feminine men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/24 08:35 PM
1

Men, of course, are never afraid to put on a short skirt with stockings and high heels before leaving the house and walk down the street. Only women are afraid of this, yeah.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 06:15 AM
18

Clearly, any discrimination against men may ultimately result in harm to women. Nancy Levit, a leading expert in feminist legal theory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 06:02 AM
8

"Where Scandinavian countries who are widely regarded to have the most gender-equal societies in the world also report some of the highest rates of sexual assault and gendered violence across the European Union" The Gender Equality Index is an index of the index's creators' views on what gender equality is. Some people care what kind of genitals a person in their country's parliament has, and others care whether their genitals increase the chance that they will be thrown under the bullets.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 05:08 PM
10

“Disrespecting women does not always result in violence against women. But all violence against women begins with disrespecting women” Discrespecting men does not always result in violence against men. But all violence against men begins with disrespecting men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 04:55 PM
31

“Women are afraid that men will kill them.” Aren't men afraid that men will kill them? Where is male privilege here? On the contrary, society has a more negative attitude towards inter-gender violence between men against women than towards intra-gender violence between men against men, so in the first case it creates spaces, in the second it does nothing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 11:57 PM
102

Actually, many misandrists are racists, and many racists are misandrists. There are many academic works about anti-Black misandry (Tommy J. Curry, T. Hasan Johnson, Nathaniel Bryan).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/24 07:56 AM
43

"Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims". "Not all men are sexual abusers, but almost all sexual abusers are men".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/24 02:12 AM
1

Around this time, the UN adopted a declaration of human rights, according to which mothers and children (but not fathers) must receive special protection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/24 11:23 PM
92

Women and children discource around Gaza is a clear gynopopulism. Most killed children are boys. And most killed adults are men. But no one cares about boys. Not to mention men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/24 09:04 AM
39

“Conscription is a male privilege because it gives a privilege to have a weapon!” Armenian men who were conscripted and killed by the conscriptors: “yeah, right”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/24 03:08 AM
54

The perception paradox: women who hate masculists think masculists hate women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/24 07:34 PM
56

Safe spaces must protect all people with all traumas and stop perpetuating assumptions that women are likely to have trigger on men and men are likely to sexually abuse women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/24 09:49 AM
5

As left-wing masculists, we should gather under left-wing flags in front of the embassies of countries that discriminate against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/24 08:51 AM
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The problem is, the right not to serve in military forces is not included in Universal Declaration of Human Rights... People don't understand how it's important.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/24 01:36 AM
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"In the year to date, 24 women have died in violent incidents, including those killed in the Bondi Junction attacks." How many men have died in violent incidents? Were perpetrators of violence against men punished as harshly as perpetrators of violence against women, or did the judges consider the female gender of the victim to be an aggravating factor?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/24 12:33 AM
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Men and boys are angry because they face discrimination, gender policing and gender-based violence, and laws don't protect them from it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/24 12:14 AM
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Bauermeister, J. A., Connochie, D., Jadwin-Cakmak, L., & Meanley, S. (2017). Gender policing during childhood and the psychological well-being of young adult sexual minority men in the United States. American journal of men's health, 11(3), 693-701.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/24 12:11 AM
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Positive masculinity discourse is a way to avoid saying "we need to protect men and boys from gender policing".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/24 04:07 AM
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“real man” including “real men are feminists”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/24 09:37 PM
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You guessed wrong. He's a bald man of quite standard appearance, much like members of NOMAS. A boomer.
/r/MensRights17/04/24 11:51 PM
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Wikipedia has such rules that in order for this to disappear from Wikipedia, it is necessary to defeat the deniers of misandry in the academic environment. As long as masculists stay away from social science faculties, nothing will change. One need to go into this environment, get educated in the social sciences and harshly criticize Michael Kimmel, David Gilmore, Alice Marwick, Robyn Caplan etc. in academic literature. They will not change on their own; they need help. This is damn hard to do, …
/r/MensRights17/04/24 11:44 PM
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If your country does not have conscription, but there are no protests in front of the embassies of countries that have conscription either, you live in a country where men are treated as cannon fodder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 06:11 AM
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The analogy between sexism and racism is false. In US, signs of Blackness and maleness increase the experience of being perceived as cannon fodder, as a criminal, and the signs of whiteness and femaleness decrease this experience. So why whiteness and maleness are analogous?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/24 11:24 PM
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In the US, conservative judges refused to recognize that military registration only for men is discriminatory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/24 10:18 AM
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Interestingly, the existence of the group is practically ignored in the academic literature. 4 uncited links, if you type in google scholar in quotes. It is not surprising that there is a tendency to neglect or deny misandry altogether.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/24 10:15 AM
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Using "toxic masculinity" only when talking about men is gender-essentialist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 11:30 AM
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The problem is that many profeminist men are quite toxically-masculine when they show chivalry and say that sexism against men doesn't exist, that misandry doesn't exist, that real men are feminists. Look on NOMAS members — they really have issues with self-reflection their gender socialization filled by toxic chivalrous narratives that they should protect “better half of humanity” despite their attempts to present themselves as progressive guys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 09:31 AM
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The term is at least overused, yeah. For example, the term hegemonic masculinity is more often used in academic literature, but average internet users don't know about its existence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 09:22 AM
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Karl Marx once remarked that a newspaper could easily become reactionary by appealing to the liberals of the recent past.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 07:20 AM
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I know some intersectional feminists in academic community (for example, Rhea Ashley Hoskin) who add the sign of preferred gender expression into intersectional analysis, but in the Internet average intersectional feminists usually neglect this sign and view white cishet men as a monolith super-privileged group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 07:59 PM
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Yeah btw Russia supports HAMAS, not Palestinian civilians.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 07:36 PM
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I said about Russia, not about all offensive wars. Russia is the state in which means are productions belong to the most imperialist, the most chauvinistic part of capitalists. Not NATO.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 07:32 PM
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Yeah it's very Leninist to support a dictator who once betrayed the Communist Party and then made his friends to be oligarchs in a post-socialist state.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 07:16 PM
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Russia is a fascist country, Ukraine is not. Putin is a big fan of Ivan Ilyin, you know. If you support Russia in this conflict, you support fascist imperialism. Russia is also an extremely misandrist country which sends only men in strict and special regime corrective colonies, which gives more than 20 years of prison only to men, which has many other laws which discriminate against men. Supporting Russia today is supporting misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 07:05 PM
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Pink capitalism and cultural feminism have long been in a very toxic and strong alliance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 09:44 AM
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Gender policing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/24 09:07 AM
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They emphasize that it is mainly women and children who are dying in Gaza, but they are silent that men and boys who are also dying mainly. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02640-5/fulltext02640-5/fulltext)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 11:44 AM
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The genocide in Rwanda is a far-reaching tragedy that has taken a particularly hard toll on women. They now comprise 70 percent of the population, since the genocide chiefly exterminated the male population. (c) Aloysia Inyumba.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 11:20 AM
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Average people hate average men implicitly, calling non-average men "real men". Implicit misandry is prevalent over explicit one, but also harmful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/24 10:58 AM
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Non-economic coercion under imperialism lies precisely in compulsory military service for men. In pre-capitalist societies, non-economic coercion was characteristic of people of both sexes; in capitalism, it was almost completely eliminated for women, and for men it is preserved in the form of mass forced military service, which even increased significantly compared to pre-capitalist eras.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/24 09:05 PM
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"Is it implying that men do have protextiom against such things?" No. Imperialist culture views men as cannon fodder and the courts in the system don't recognize men to be victims of gender-based violence, even when perpetrators of violence against men say proudly that they don't hit women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/24 09:23 AM
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I am a trans woman and I know perfectly well when everyone is trying to convince you that the words “I am a woman” are some kind of impudence precisely because women are “the better half of humanity.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 10:52 PM
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There are a ton of scientific papers on men's health and how the cultural status quo negatively impacts it, written by men. This is also a form of struggle to change the status quo. However, men are really taught that they shouldn't protest as men. Because there is a pervasive cultural attitude that there are real men and fake ones. And the real ones must sacrifice their interests. This fits very poorly with the theory that the world is designed by men in the interests of men. If this were so, t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 04:14 PM
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In Russia, the law prohibits the death penalty and life imprisonment for women, but not for men. Also, only men are subject to detention in strict and special regime correctional colonies. Convicted women are kept in general regime correctional colonies, regardless of the severity of the crime they committed. The laws provide for the existence of prisons such as FKU IK-3 Kharp for men only.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 08:31 PM
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There are a huge number of laws in Russia that discriminate against men. Since Soviet times, there was a tendency to view men as cannon fodder for the world socialist revolution, and all talk about gender equality has hypocritically ignored this aspect. Plus, the late-Soviet liberal intelligentsia, represented by the poet Yevtushenko, was indignant that the Bolsheviks “degraded women to equality with men.” As a result, after capitalist reforms, discrimination against men only intensified. Men in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 04:44 AM
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A call for protests in front of the embassies of countries with conscription, primarily to those who live in countries without conscription, where there are no plans for its return. It is a sad tendency that they have this idea of “we don’t need it anymore” instead of “conscription is a violation of human rights, it should be abolished throughout the world along, and the abolishment should be accompanied by the exoneration of draft evaders and deserters from forced military service.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 02:08 PM
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We shouldn't ignore that violence against men is often gender-based.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 11:59 AM
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An implicit, benevolent-sexist example: "real man".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 03:51 AM
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People, including all children, should have the right to choose how they manage their bodies. Both transgender and cisgender. In any aspect. Mainstream political opinion packages in the US are crap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 03:40 AM
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People still view men as cannon fodder. We need international rallies against conscription in front of the embassies of countries with conscription. If you have resorces, please organize them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 12:26 AM
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"If he has a boner he wants it" is literally the same rape cultural idea as "if she has a vaginal lubrication she wants it".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/24 12:43 PM
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Misandry is life-threatening. If courts don't recognize cases of violence against men to be gender-based, it doesn't mean they are actually not gender-based. Just ask those who perpetrate violence against men - many of them would say proudly that they don't hit women and children.
/r/MensRights20/03/24 12:16 PM
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Safe spaces should be about preventing violence, not about reducing the percentage of male violence against women relative to other violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 10:14 PM
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Yes, of course. But the point is that intra-gender violence shouldn't be less prevented than inter-gender violence. There is no need to make abusers switch to people of their own gender. Men are already overrepresented as victims of male violence, and there is no need to make them even more overrepresented. Moreover, intragender violence is more difficult to recognize as having aggravating circumstances in court - if a man beats a woman, the investigation and the court immediately guess the gend…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 10:05 PM
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What is safe space? Shoud women be protected from male violence more than men? Should women who have traumatic experience of male violence be more respected than men who have traumatic experience of male violence? I don't think so. Men are overrepresented as victims of male violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 09:55 PM
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A man and a woman should have equal level of right to no contact with men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 09:45 PM
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The study is about men with high scores on hostile sexism, but in the retellings of the study by cultural feminists, “men with high scores on hostile sexism” has become just “men.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/24 07:05 AM
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And what part of the brain, according to contemprorary international academic neurobiology, processes objects and tools?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/24 06:59 AM
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1 in 4 homeless people are women! (c)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/24 08:18 AM
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And again, a gender-essentialist understanding of misandry as something that cannot be characteristic of anyone except women. Calm down already, honestly. We never said that you are greater misandrists than those men who write laws according to which men are not protected from violence, torture, rape, etc. But with your “misandry isn't real” you are helping them a lot, yes.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/03/24 06:01 PM
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"I don't laugh at their pain" Not very plausible.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/03/24 05:57 PM
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A friendly reminder that no scientific research has been written to check the hypothesis that the experience of misandry has a significant negative impact on the mental health of men and boys. Nobody funded such a study. However, the political establishment is dominated by the idealistic idea that misandry is not socially dangerous.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/24 01:46 PM
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However, conservative judges in the United States have ruled that military registration of men and not women is okay. So, they view men as cannon fodder. Dot. Conservatives are just trying to use men's rights activists as useful idiots. There will be no real steps such as protecting men and boys from gender policing, revising the Universal Declaration of Human Rights' special protection for mothers but not fathers, exoneration of draft evaders and drafted deserters, recognition that violence aga…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/24 07:26 AM
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There is an alternative argument for devaluing discrimination against men: “it is based on benevolent sexism that harms women.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/24 11:06 PM
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The fact that India is presented as a country where there is pervasive misogyny and there is no misandry at all is extremely stupid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/24 10:55 PM
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"There is no misandry because there is patriarchy" sounds like "There is no misanthropy because threre is anthropocentrism".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/24 03:34 PM
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Personally, Crenshaw does not seem to deny the existence of discrimination against men. However, on the Internet, her concept has been taken to extremes by cultural feminists. Double however, it should be remembered that when if say that men have been generally privileged in relation to women, we mean that not serving in the army is not such an important right, that the right to express femininity is not such an important right, that not being the most frequently killed in war is not such an imp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 02:14 AM
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I agree, gender essentialism is awful and counterproductive. All these ideas that the essense of the war against boys is that they are treated the same as girls, ignoring that they are different, miss the point that boys are indeed treated very differently from girls by teachers, face more harsh gender policing, and that boys are diverse in their preferred gender expressions and needs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/02/24 10:28 PM
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I don't like this phrase because I don't like the idea that the past and the present is male. The past and present, including the era after the bourgeois and socialist revolutions (even to a greater extent than the era of feudalism), is primarily the normalization of non-economic coercion of men to dangerous work, the work of soldiers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/24 04:56 AM
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If a politician believes that the criminality of a social group justifies discrimination against that social group, screw that politician. If women, for example, are sexual abusers much less often than men, this is not a reason for the few female sexual abusers to make more comfortable conditions for detention than for the many male sexual abusers. Only one's personal actions should influence the legal system's attitude towards one. The actions of other members of one's social group should not i…
/r/EverydayMisandry28/02/24 03:19 AM
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Any crime not committed by you personally is not your crime. Rowling is engaged in vulgar collectivist demagogy.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/02/24 03:13 AM
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False analogy is a logical fallacy. Antimasculist rhethoric is based on logical fallacies, such as false analogy, straw man, hasty generalization, false cause, slippery slope, false dillemma.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 06:54 PM
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Russian laws: Life sentences are not given to women, even to mass murderers such as Irina Gaidamachuk. There are also strict and special regime colonies only for men. Only for men there are such prisons as the colony in the village of Kharp. Women are kept in general regime colonies, regardless of the severity of the crime. Polina Dvorkina, who killed her father and came to the kindergarten and attempted to kill little boys on the grounds of misandry, is also being held in a general regime colon…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/24 08:46 PM
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The history at least after Industrial Revolution is about how loud minorities became majorities in next generation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/24 06:42 PM
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Misandry is not (not only and not primarily) when a woman reacts irrationally on misogyny. Misandry is much more wide spectrum of situations when people hate men and devalue men's rights. To claim that men's rights activists mean women when they say "misandry" is a straw man. The author doesn't understand dialectic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/24 06:16 AM
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I identify as masculist, as Warren Farrell and Pasi Malmi do. But using men's rights activist in a negative way is a devaluation of real-life unfair restrictions on men's rights. This is following the slogan espoused by renegade Michael Kimmel “Men, their rights and nothing more, women, their rights and nothing less.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 06:42 PM
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In Russia there is such intersectional feminist as Nika Vodvud. "Sexism against women is the arrow, the arrow does not turn”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 07:14 AM
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Sexism against men is not reverse. Don't buy their manipulations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 07:11 AM
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The UN constantly focuses on crimes against women and girls, but in the end it turns out that the majority of civilians killed in wars are men and boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/24 07:20 AM
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People police men's gender behavior much more aggressively.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 04:52 PM
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Both conservatives and cultural feminists: "Men shouldn't be so sensitive!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 10:37 AM
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Unfortunately, there is a long left tradition to view men as cannon fodder for world socialist revolution and women as those who need liberation. Conservative politics don't actually support men's rights. Conservative judges often justify discrimination against men as "justified by traditions". Unfortunately, the only allies of masculists are masculists, and we need to criticize all the contemprorary political mainstream.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/24 10:45 PM
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Far-left theories work much better in case they include inadmissibility of non-economic coercion of men into dangerous labour, including conscription. Unfortunately, far-left tradition has a big period of viewing men as those who should be used as cannon fodder for world socialist revolution and women as those who need liberation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 01:24 PM
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Thanks for the clarification.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 11:08 AM
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Presumption of innocence is a basic principle. Otherwise, we can return inquisition and burn women who can't prove that they are not witches. (Actually, men were burnt more often, but it's burning women that is the thing which shocks cultural feminist creative intelligentsia, that's why people associate inquisition primarily with burning women today). Moreover, people are not obligated to believe judges even if they find a person to be guilty. There is also such thing as freedom of conscience, a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 01:20 AM
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Yeah and The Guardian is quite responsible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 06:30 PM
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Because there are no mass protests in front of the embassies of countries that have conscription.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/02/24 06:31 PM
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Well, yes, transphobia often goes hand in hand with interphobia.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/24 07:29 AM
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“If you got a meat between your legs, you are a man”. People are not obligated to use your definitions of the words “man” and “woman”. Language is changing. The word “man” used to mean “human”, and the end of the world did not happen because some generation stopped using it in this meaning. Not so long ago. “A feminine man but a man” Not all trans women are feminine, trans women are diverse in their preferred gender expression. Just like cis women, non binary people, trans men and cis men. All g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/24 01:14 AM
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I prefer to be to the left of those who are considered leftists in the West. Fighting for as many women as possible to become bourgeoises and officials of bourgeois states is not a very leftist struggle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 07:38 PM
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Cultural feminist slogans such as “there will be no wars when there will no patriarchy” is just idealistic bullshit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 11:33 PM
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Those who have institutional power don't control women more than men, they control people in general. Their control of women had a goal to receive as many as possible slaves, as many as possible exploited peasants, as many as possible cannon fodder (this has been actual especially after both bourgeois and socialist revolutions). In many cases, the desire to exploit men is primary, and not at all secondary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/24 06:35 AM
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The struggle for as many women as possible to become bourgeoises and officials of bourgeois states is not left-wing. Most people (including most people of color, most LGBT people, most women, most men) will not feel any better because of it. It wouldn't make them more happy if women, not men, not pay them the surplus value for their labour.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/24 04:02 AM
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Britain needs a masculist sociocultural revolution. British politics say gynopopulist bullshit too often.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/24 12:32 PM
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T. J. Curry has a good term for such bullshit - "intersectional essentialism".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 09:15 AM
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After “sexism against men is reverse sexism that doesn't exist just reverse racism doesn't” it can be an absolutely valid option to say “what about”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/24 09:14 PM
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People who say "misandry isn't real" usually narrow the definition of the word "misandry". Misandry, they say, is systemic oppression of men by women. By this logic, misanthropy is systemic oppression of humans by dwarves and elves.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/01/24 08:47 AM
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I support inclusion of a right not to be conscripted in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It is necessary to build an international anti-conscriptionist movement that will hold rallies in front of the embassies of countries with conscription.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 03:25 AM
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"Revenge of the Sith" is a wonderful film about how the breeding of male soldiers (clones) destroyed a thousand-generations democracy in a few years to thunderous applause.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 06:45 PM
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stopsayingwomenandchildren
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 06:07 PM
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There are many people who understand it, and there are many other people who are so toxic that they won't collectively stop to be toxic within one year.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 05:54 AM
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I am a trans woman and a left masculist. Early Rowling's twits about trans people and her essay were transphobic. Her recent twits are transphobic as well. Transphobia it's not only calls for violence against trans people, just like misandry it's not only calls for violence against men. Transphobia includes all forms of unfair treatment of trans people, including prejudices that we transition because of gender-stereotyped thinking. Trans rights activists said to Rowling many times that they are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 07:59 PM
6

Taylor Swift is a conservative woman who believes that “any girl who’s really thought a lot about romance and relationships and break-ups has determined that the male species has divided into two groups — and it’s boys and men”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/24 08:29 PM
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Gay men are much more likely to become victims of homophobic violence than lesbians. The idea that gay men are privileged in relation to lesbians and therefore should be affirmatively excluded from LGBT spaces is just a vulgar intersectionalist bullshit. We need more pro-masculist wing of LGBT movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/24 06:30 AM
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I know that there is left feminism, but mainstream feminism is about the struggle for as many women as possible to become bourgeois and officials of bourgeois states.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/24 01:09 AM
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It's true that there are more men than women in governmental structures, but until these men are alienated from men in general or even have misandrous worldview, it's not a system made for men's interests.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/24 05:35 PM
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Society treats men the way it treats them during defensive war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/24 04:49 PM
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The future is not "female". The future is abolishion of conscription, exoneration of draft evaders, legal protection of men and boys from gender policing, protection men from gender-based violence and including in school textbooks the information about discrimination against men in XXI century and before. And gender identities of people who will do this is of secondary importance.
/r/EverydayMisandry11/01/24 10:26 PM
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People who support male-only conscription and say that they support gender equality are just hypocrits and liars. Shame on them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 05:39 PM
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"14 000 women die every year from domestic violence", "every 40 seconds a woman in Russia dies from domestic violence" etc. is definitely no more than propagandist cliché of some Russian feminist organizations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 07:31 PM
10

It is inaccurate to say that domestic violence is completely legal in Russia. It is an administrative offense or a crime depending on various criteria. Decriminalization of some cases of domestic violence was making them an administrative offense, not a legal right. Conservative women were active supporters of this decriminalization, because domestic violence against children from their mothers is normalized in Russian culture and they were shocked when some typical Russian mothers were arrested…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 07:02 PM
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UN also finds that 14 000 women die from domestic violence in Russia every year. Don't believe UN so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 06:03 PM
8

Feminism is seen as misandry because many feminists say "I hate men" and "Men are trash" and many other feminists don't oppose it. Equalizing men with women is criminalization of gender policing towards men, protection men from gender-based violence (any case of violence when a perpatrator assaults a man in case they wouldn't assault a woman for the same reason is gender-based), abolishment of conscription, exoneration of draft evaders.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/23 12:37 AM
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Not enough. We need to abolish the idea that war is a valid reason to discriminate against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/23 07:40 PM
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A friendly reminder that men exist not for being cannon fodder during war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/23 08:46 PM
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And even in the US, there is still a current Supreme court decision Rostker v. Goldberg that male-only conscription would be okay. What does it mean? It means that they still viewed men as potential cannon fodder, and all their "we support gender equality" is just hypocricy. There is conscription culture, even if there are no conscription.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/23 10:24 AM
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A right not to serve in military service must be included in Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/23 10:18 AM
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They say “misandry only hurts feelings” because they are actually quite conservative and think that men shouldn't be so sensitive. They are liberal for women and conservative for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/12/23 12:38 PM
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"Schools need to let boys be boys again" Schools need to stop gender policing towards children. Gender policing towards children should be classified as a form of child abuse and lead the perpatrators to jails. Today, schools don't actually let boys to be feminine. The fact is that boys are still shamed for femininity and androgyny but already shamed for masculinity as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/23 12:22 AM
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Because vulgar intersectionalism is their echo-chamber. “Men are privileged over women, heterosexual people are privileged over homosexuals, consequently, gay men are privileged over lesbians”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 03:30 PM
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I know what they say about it. "It's the gender reverse joke about how men always used women in commercials! Look how men piss off from it!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/23 12:12 PM
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Yes. Collective responsibility is an awful idea. Damn Hannah Arendt's claim that collective responsibility doesn't mean collective guilt and it's okay that innocent part of the group also face responsibility is too popular today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/23 11:21 AM
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Demonizing of male masculinity. They don't demonize the same traits in women. On the countrary, they want all female superheroes have them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/23 11:47 PM
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A good test if a person is an antisexist or a hypocrite. Ask them if male-only conscription is discrimination against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/23 10:33 PM
5

I don't know why the term “masculism” became unpopular in Anglophone space. Warren Farrell in his “The Myth of Male Power” and Pasi Malmi in his “Discrimination against men” called themselves masculists. English Wikipedia uses this term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 10:21 PM
7

Men were used as cannon fodder, not only in WW2, but also during Soviet–Afghan War. Militsiya arrested men and boys who had long hair. Almost all those sentenced to death since 1960 have been men. Homosexuality was criminalized only for men. Criminal codes didn't protect men from sexual abuse at all (e.g. articles 117-118 of RSFSR Criminal code "Изнасилование" and "Понуждение женщины к вступлению в половую связь" protected only women, not men from sexual violence and harassment).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 09:25 PM
23

Internalized misandry should be called internalized misandry. When a woman says “I can't do it because I'm a woman” it's called internalized misogyny, not toxic femininity. So why shouldn't we call internalized misandry when a man says ”I can't do it because I'm a man”?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 07:47 PM
24

White people are not overrepersented as victims of violence in relation to people of colour. Men are overrepresented as victims of violence in relation to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 05:37 PM
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Violence against men is actually very often gender-based and many of the perpetrators perpetrate it because of their victims' gender. Ask them, many of them say proudly "I don't hit women and children".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/23 07:03 AM
19

Criminal statistics are often used to justify racism, misandry, and racialized misandry. Some time ago, mainstream feminism started to object to the first of these... it hadn't been objecting for most of its history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/23 11:36 AM
9

That's important. Men are diverse in their preferred gender expressions. No less diverse than women. But among women, preferred gender expression is much more likely to coincide with demonstrated one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 05:21 PM
21

I've heard nonsense like "employers force women to wear skirts, pantyhose and high heels, and men wear whatever they want." No, employers force men to wear pants and shirts, and do it much more aggressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 05:17 PM
1

I can say, there are many academic sources that Black men and boys face not only racism but also anti-Black misandry. Tommy J. Curry, T. Hasan Johnson, Nathaniel Bryan have already written many books about it. It's kind of obvious that cops kill Black males much more often than Black females and their violence against Black males is at least partly gender-based.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 05:10 PM
6

However, feminists have both street and Internent activisms.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 01:30 AM
14

Men are still viewed as cannon fodder. Men are still viewed as cannon fodder. Men are still viewed as cannon fodder. Men are still viewed as cannon fodder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/23 11:03 AM
14

I expected worse than their article which recognizes that “there is little doubt, of course, that some feminists are misandrists”. Many feminists think that there are no misandrists at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/23 02:51 AM
11

If they have PTSD, it's mental disorder and they should receive mental health care, not normalization.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/23 06:22 PM
7

Neuro-sexism is definitely awful. That's why I prefer LWMA. By the way, implicit neuro-sexism is common issue in feminist spaces.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/23 09:06 AM
43

Do those who advice to read bell hooks read those who criticize bell hooks? For example, I always read those who criticize my opinion in academic literature. To read those who criticize my opinion in academic literature is easy and pleasant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/23 04:50 AM
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I adore when they advice me to read/watch something (not bell hooks specifically) that I had already done and then ban me. Do they even understand that some of their opponents could read and disagree, or do they think that absolutely all of their opponents simply did not read the genius explanations that sexism is the systemic oppression of one group by another group and therefore it is impossible to be sexist towards men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/23 04:41 AM
5

Men are still viewed as cannon fodder. It's the conscription culture.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/23 02:40 AM
12

I didn't mean you personally say something like that. I said that it's the common narrative of dominant feminist theory — the issues are caused by patriarchy, so we need to destroy patriarchy and to make gender-balansed power structures and it will solve women's issues and men's issues too. (I still wait when they begin to really act against global power structures like UN). In fact, men in power structures are alienated from men in general, they don't solve such issues as male homelessness etc.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 03:15 AM
7

I always say that it's true that men's issues are causes by those people who are in power structures and that they must lose their power for men's issues to be solved. However, the hypothesis that it's their male gender identities are the cause of all the gender discrimination in the world sounds not very scientific.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/23 02:39 AM
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I imagine the cultural feminist explanations - men are not working because of their misogyny, they've watched too many Andrew Tate and don't want to work together with women. And they cannot help but carry out sexual harassment because they have not reflected on toxic masculinity. Therefore, they just sit at home all day and watch porn with humiliation of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/23 09:18 AM
12

It seems like Britain today can have either conservative minister for men, which won't protect men from gender policing or no minister for men because left-wing politics in Western societies think that it's like "minister for white people", "minister for heterosexual people" and "minister for the upper classes".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 03:40 PM
5

Here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/23 10:01 PM
100

Conservatives: “men shouldn't be so sensitive”. Misandry denialists: “men shouldn't be so sensitive”. And then, they are surprised when they see left wing male advocates...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 05:18 AM
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All men are real. Cultural feminism is at least partly rooted in conservatism and supports similar ideas. Like “men shouldn't be so sensitive”. No, guys. Men have no less right to be sensitive than women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 05:13 AM
11

In Russian TERFism it's extremely popular to shame heterosexual and mspec women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/23 08:36 AM
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The key word is “right-wing”. I know that India is a very misandrous country and I totally support changing of its laws.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 04:14 PM
5

No more than misandry in AskFeminists. However, I despite right-wing MRAs' claims against more vulnerable social groups than white cisgender heterosexual gender-conforming women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 07:41 AM
74

Of course. Every person who says "I hate men" represents hostile sexism towards men. Every person who says "You're a real man!" represents benevolent sexism towards men. And sexism against men is not reverse, it's direct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/23 03:30 AM
4

Because there is increasing academic literature about the negative impact of it. And because gender-nonconforming men have abilities to popularize it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 06:45 PM
5

In 15 years, there will be increasing of the discourse around gender policing and the negative impact of it on men and boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 06:12 PM
5

What is “looking good” to you is determined by your upbringing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 12:30 AM
1

What about Daphna Joel?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 12:28 AM
4

Age of majority is absolutely a social construct.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 12:26 AM
3

Absolutely negative. There shouldn't be such thing as male gender role. The fact that MensLib, AskFeminists etc. are promoting the idea that we need men with a "good male role model" is the evidence that today there is a big impact of conservatism on them. Men don't need male role models - they need rights which women have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 12:23 AM
1

Those people who are in power indeed should be deprived of power to improve the well-being of men, but they should be deprived of power not because of having male gender identity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 03:42 AM
1

I can only say that if they axiomatically believe that women in nonpatriarchal power structures would solve women's problem, that they probably ignore that men in male-dominated power structures don't solve men's problem but create them. (Or they just support neurosexism and gender essentialism and think that women are fundamentally different because of eustrogen or mind structures). So why do you trust their analitical skills?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 03:35 AM
1

I support very narrow direction of feminism. I know some feminists who support left-wing masculism. At least in Russia.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/23 03:16 AM
2

Mahatma Gandhi was a big promoter of calling women “better half of humanity”. He was the one who popularized this euphemism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/23 06:09 PM
10

It is interesting that “men are always responsible for their issues because of patriarchy” when women work with boys and socialize them. And many of “toxic masculine” standards are completely shared by many of the female teachers and mothers. They often police boys' gender behavior. But of course, all child abusers are men. (sarcasm)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/23 06:05 PM
19

I always tell that men in power structures are alienated from men in general. Look on statistics of male homelenesness and try to remember who are those men in power structures who have ever urged to fight this. We don't know them. But we know those who says that "1 in 4 of homeless people are women" and "19% of journalists killed in 2017 were women".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/10/23 10:12 PM
20

Pink capitalism teachs the society that those who deserve more praise and glorification in our world are rich female pop idols, whereas middle-class men are one of the most oppressive groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/23 03:14 PM
16

Misandry is real, misandry denialism is based on the narrowing of the definition of this term.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/23 04:18 PM
4

The problem is men and boys face harsh gender policing from childhood and it's legally allowed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/23 09:31 PM
12

"Everyone always thinks they have it the worst." Heh, no. We can find the similar mistake in male author's works of that time. They also thought that women need liberation, and men not really need it. When they wrote "equal rights" they meant women should be equalized with men in masculine fields, and men shouldn't be equalized with women in feminine field - men should be used as cannon fodder fighting with communism, capitalism, fascism, islamism, zionism etc., not be liberated as men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 09:57 PM
4

In the whole world, powerful politics, both men and women, those who are represented in UN, think that non-serving in military forces shouldn't be included in declarations of human rights, but serving in military should be. Of course they would decide that it's obvious that women have it the worst.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 09:46 PM
14

she identifies and critiques the oppressive character of socially imposed essentialization of sex difference Yeah she criticized essentialization of sex differences, but she didn't understand who are primarily and more harshly overgenderized by gender essentialists. And that's why her followers are responsible for the contemprorary world of 2023 year in which women are diverse in their demonstated gender expression, and men are diverse in their preffered gender expression. That's why her impact …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 09:16 PM
12

There is only one side for me. It's justice. Muhammed Ali said that justice is the real alternative for going to jail or to army for men, by the way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 07:28 PM
10

If I don't agree with the claim and the argument, it doesn't mean that I don't understand the claim and the argument. And what exactly makes Simone de Beauvoir an ally for men's liberation? Did I call her feminazi?..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 07:15 PM
23

And shaming male politics (but not female ones) for wearing heels.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 09:06 AM
29

We don't support misogyny. Misogyny is hatred of women and we don't support it. To criticize Simone de Beauvoir's followers, Laura Mulvey's followers, Naomi R. Wolf's followers, Michael Kimmel's followers, Allan G. Johnson's followers is important for men's liberation. Men's liberation is impossible without criticizing their conceptions. There are many reasons to criticize all of them harshly. Should we ignore that Simone de Beauvoir, living in the era of pervasive using men as cannon fodder, wr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/23 08:59 AM
4

Collective responsibility is not a left-wing idea. Ideas similar to "All Jews are responsible because in the 1st century Jews killed Jesus Christ" are just not left ideas at all. Right-wing ideology is not about encouragement individual responsibility instead of collective one, it's about lowering individual responsibility, for example, for supremacist actions. Individual responsibility for such actions shoud be big. Right-wing people don't agree with it. They think supremacist actions are not b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/23 07:16 PM
24

I think "men" and "white people"/"cis people"/"heterosexual people" etc. is a false analogy. Men are viewed as cannon fodder because of being men. There are no analogy of that for such signs as whiteness, cisness or heterosexuality. Rather Black men face more perception as potential crimnals and cannon fodder because of blackness, maleness and intersection of maleness and blackness. All this signs increase the likelihood that you will be drafted into the army, for example, or that you will be ki…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/23 10:11 PM
7

The most glorified suffragette Emmeline Pankhurst was not only a suffragette - she was also a big pro-conscription activist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/23 06:40 AM
4

Gandhi popularized the euphemism “better half of humanity” for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/23 07:58 PM
22

Interesting that the term “hegemonic masculinity” is much more popular in academic literature but pink capitalist mass media didn't popularized it but popularized the term “toxic masculinity”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/23 02:37 AM
1

In Russia, Sudebnik of 1550, article 26 represented discrimination against men: Статья 26. А за бесчестье детям боярским, имеющим кормление, выплачивать согласно их доходам, записанным в книгах; а женам за бесчестье вдвое больше согласно доходам (их мужей). А за бесчестье детей боярских платить в зависимости от их денежного жалованья, а женам их вдовое больше. А дьякам палатным и дворцовым бесчестья что Царь и Великий князь укажет; а женам их вдовое больше их бесчестья. Большим гостям бесчестья …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/23 01:30 AM
20

Yes. It is sexism against men. And not “reverse” one, lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/23 11:23 PM
10

People who think that men are obligated to be masculine are sexists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/10/23 09:27 PM
9

Dress how you want, just support the idea that gender policing shouldn't be legal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 06:27 PM
26

Mainstream feminism: “we're against gender stereotypes” Also mainstream feminism: “male gaze”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/23 03:42 AM
8

There are more MVAM than MVAW. The truth is that MVAM is often at least partly gender-based because many of the perpetrators think that it's less unethical to hit a man than to hit a woman, but it's not normally recognized to be gender-based by courts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/23 01:50 PM
9

Left-wing misandry: “We hate men as class”. Right-wing misandry: “We respect men, but only real men”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/23 12:18 AM
8

There is a big difference between gender nonconformity and transness. Gender identity is not the same as preferred gender expression.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 12:21 PM
10

"If trans rights activists would call out misandry in terf circles, so that right wingers would see how most of the things said about trans people is just based on hating men, then much more (less radical) conservatives would be much more accepted trans rights, than they are now." I don't really believe in "less radical conservatives". Conservative people literally support misandry. They just don't formulate it as "I hate men", they prefer to say "I respect only real men, not sissies". Moreover,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 12:16 PM
10

"Trans rights would be much more accepted if trans rights activists would focus on how most of transphobia is just misandry" Unlikely. "TRAs are MRAs" is the common slogan of transphobic propaganda. And it works good to discredit trans activism. If we were openly men's rights activists, then much more feminists would become openly TERFs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/23 11:57 AM
5

There are many right-wing people, and many men, who are misandrists. They just don't formulate their hatred as "I hate men". They say that they support "real men" - the little minority of men. Absolute majority of men are objects of their hatred. And so-called "real men" for them are in fact submissive cannon fodder. Not that dog is scary that barks loudly but the one that bites painfully.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/23 08:03 PM
3

We're not obligated to use your definition of the word "misogyny". By this logic, the definition of the word "misanthropy" should be dwarfs' or elves' control and abuse of humans and couldn't exist in anthropocentric world. However, misanthropy is nothing more than hatred of humans, and it exists in anthropocentric world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/23 07:49 PM
6

More logically, if toxic masculinity exists, then misandry also exists. Because if the society isn't misandrous, why does it poisons manhood with toxic masculinity?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/23 11:26 AM
11

Misandry is real. Misandry denialism is based on re-definition of the word "misandry". Misandry denialists in the academic environment like David Gilmore, Alice E. Marwick or Robyn Caplan don't like Merriam-Webster definition of this word (hatred of men). They narrow this definition as much as possible, and from this they conclude that there is no misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/23 09:48 AM
6

Lots of cases of violence at least partly based on the idea that violence against men is not as bad as violence against women, but they are not recognized to be gender-based.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/23 08:14 PM
1

It's the hostile sexism already.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/23 08:46 AM
7

The most glorified suffragettes (Emmeline Pankhurst and her daughter Christabel) were pro-conscriptionists. Sylvia Pankhurst, who criticized her mother for her pro-conscriptionist views doesn't recieve so much glorification from the contemprorary British power-havers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/23 08:04 AM
5

To right not to be a soldier is a human right, just like the right to vote. Authors of Universal Declaration of Human Rights didn't think so (they didn't include the right not to be a soldier in the Declaration). But I do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/23 07:37 AM
7

They fought? Or they still fight? In the world, conscription is still considered to be okay according to UN declarations. And cultural perception of men as potential cannon fodder is still real even in countries without conscription.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/23 07:05 AM
4

I noticed that vulgar intersectionalists often say "cisgender man" in their toxic claims about cisgender men as if cisgender man always means gender-conforming man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/23 11:13 AM
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Yeah and authors of official ratings of gener equality ignore conscription. It is criticized in academic literature: Gender-specific Call of Duty: A Note on the Neglect of Conscription in Gender Equality Indices Jussi Heikkilä & Ina Laukkanen https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/10242694.2020.1844400
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/23 07:19 AM
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Have a reputation. Because those who have an institutional power to decide what gender equality is, publish ratings of gender equality, according to which these countries are the most gender equal countries.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/23 07:17 AM
10

A compliment "you're a real man" is benevolent sexism towards men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/23 09:22 AM
1

Unfortunately, conservative minister won't protect men from gender policing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/23 03:34 PM
15

"But I believe, that the idea of women being discriminated by men is wrong by itself. Women and men are discriminated by sex/gender-system, not one by another, just like gays and lesbians are discriminated by heteronormative system, not by heterosexuals exclusively. And here we can agree: discrimination "backwards" — i.e. discrimination of those, who are in power, by ordinary women and men — does not exist." A good point. I never heard from a man "I face reverse sexism". They say "I face sexism"…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/23 02:59 PM
51

Hatred towards feminine men is at least partly rooted not in hostile sexism towards women, but in the idea that cannon fodder haven't a right to act like only the better half of humanity can.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/23 02:50 PM
9

People who perpetrate violence against men should be researched by criminologists. Criminologists should ask people who perpetrate violence against men about their worldview. The key question is if they think that violence against women is more unethical than violence against men. I sure many of them will answer yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/23 07:17 PM
5

The dress code which based on the idea that some things (feminine ones) are allowed only to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/23 09:56 AM
16

Feminine men still face harsh gender policing. Try to walk a week in a skirt and pantyhose or to come to your job in such an outfit if you don't agree. I don't say that men didn't face shaming for masculinity. Rather men still face shaming for being too feminine, but already face shaming for being too masculine as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/23 11:25 PM
12

It's not surprising that they don't criticize Zelenskyy for banning men from leaving Ukraine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/23 09:09 AM
1

The compliment “you're a real man” is the example of benevolent sexism towards men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/23 03:05 PM
2

The “male gaze” is a heteronormative psychoanalytic term. By the way, the term “female gaze” is often used to the gaze of queer women. It's the “male gaze” by definition, “straight male gaze”. Classical double standards on sexuality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/23 03:02 PM
1

Misandry kills. Coughts just don't recognize violence against men gender-based (unlike violence against women). That's why people think that misandry doesn't kill.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 07:31 AM
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I don't like gendered spaces.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 08:36 PM
2

Just remember that Zelenskyy banned men from leaving Ukraine. He's not my hero.
/r/MensRights24/06/23 09:49 AM
4

Patriarchy made two pretty lesbians to torture their little son. Let's take pity on them.
/r/MensRights20/06/23 08:51 AM
1

who won't be sent in a strict regime colony because Russian laws in books literally says only men could be sent in them
/r/MensRights12/06/23 08:49 AM
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In fact, between 1480 and 1913, Europe’s queens were 27% more likely than its kings to wage war. https://www.nber.org/papers/w23337
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:04 PM
2

Does it really count as misdandry if men make other men go to war & men impact others' men's loneliness, etc. Internalized misandry is still misandry.
/r/MensRights11/06/23 08:01 PM
3

The phrase "misandry only hurts feelings" means "men shouldn't be so sensitive". They don't really reject toxic gender stereotypes which harm men's mental health.
/r/MensRights03/06/23 04:26 AM
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They say "misandry only hurts feelings" because they think men shouldn't be so sensitive. They say they reject toxic gender stereotypes, but such phrases unmask their hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights03/06/23 04:09 AM
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Moreover, only men can be sent in the strict regime colony. The articles about legal discrimination against men (e.g. Torosyan, Kazarina, Chernopilskaya) in Russia should be probably translated in English. Because average people in UK and US have no idea about antimasculist aspects of putinism. They think Russia is a country led by a masculine man so he can't introduce laws which discriminate against men. In fact, any person who read Russian Criminal Code and Code of Criminal Procedure knows tha…
/r/MensRights03/06/23 04:03 AM
2

"This is the type of thing that makes me think we're gonna lose a major war." The war is not and never be the reason to introduce male-only military conscription.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 12:31 PM
1

Emmeline and Cristabel did supported the conscription, but Adela and Silivia didn't.
/r/MensRights05/03/23 12:21 PM
2

That men are usually (at least probably) not masculine, so the phrase 'toxic masculinity' is not about manhood.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 04:32 PM
2

When parents, teachers etc. who attack boy's rights to be feminine through gender policing be in jails (because they are child abusers), we'll see if average men are masculine or not.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 04:26 PM
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All men are real. I support men's rights, not 'real' men's rights. Conservatism is misandrous.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 04:02 PM
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No. Masculine qualities don't make men at all. All men are real ones, including high feminine men. "You're a real man, I'm proud of you" is the benevolent sexist manipulation.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 02:51 PM
7

We shouldn't ignore those facts: masculinity, in its definition, is a set of things associated with males we live in misandrous society which associates toxic things with males
/r/MensRights03/03/23 02:39 PM
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Masculinity isn't the nature of being man. Men can be high feminine and people who perpetrate gender policing towards them are abusers.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 02:15 PM
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If you're wife/girfriend/mother/female friend says to you men shound't cry you should know that she's an abuser. Because gender policing is a form of abuse.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 01:26 PM
3

I don't agree. The society loves 'real men', but hates real men.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 01:17 AM
4

Intersectional feminists also say "misandry isn't real", "it's okay to hate men because men are oppressors" very often.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 02:32 PM
3

I don't say feminism is a monolith, on the contrary, I say there are different feminists. But truly egalitarian feminism is not in the mainstream of feminism. What popular feminists say misandry is real and it's the problem?
/r/MensRights05/02/23 02:26 PM
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It wouldn't be surprising for many people if so many self-identified feminists don't write twits such as "Misandry isn't real but with your help and my chainsaw, it could be", "sexism against men is the reverse sexism and it doesn't exist"... If mainstream feminism considered such things a serious problem, people won't associate feminism with misandry. Some feminists support men's liberation, but too many of them believe "if you're a man, you're strictly privileged in this society. if you're Bla…
/r/MensRights05/02/23 01:49 PM
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There are a lot of misandrous men and women who don't identify with feminism.
/r/MensRights28/01/23 07:30 PM
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Most women even don't identify themselves as feminists. This civilization was created by misandrous men. It was created by those men who believed that men should be drafted, that men should face gender policing. And masculism must fight against all these sexist rules. And no, women's nature is not very different than that of men. Men also can be very feminine and it's okay. They are still real men.
/r/MensRights22/12/22 07:03 AM
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This action represents gender harassment.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 11:55 PM
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I use masculism/masculist, like Warren Farrell and Pasi Malmi do.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 11:03 PM
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So, many scholars (e.g. Tommy J. Curry, Nathaniel Bryan, T. Hasan Johnson) write works about anti-Black misandry. We should popularize this term, I believe.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 04:54 AM
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This post really sounds misogynous. She's not too paranoid. But she's wrong - women haven't it harder, the men are overrepresented as victims of male violence. Because many men are misadnrous people who think it's okay to hit a man and it's not okay to hit a woman.
/r/MensRights01/09/22 02:11 PM
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I'm a trans woman. The problem with Ukraine's border policy is it's misandrous.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 10:12 PM
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I believe there is a problem that gender policing of children by teachers and parents is legal. It should become illegal.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 08:12 AM
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"You know, in Russia, we promote privileges for women". (c) Irina Yarovaya
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:51 AM
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Russian laws in books are extremely sexist. Russian opposition is not very antisexist but they at least know the word discrimination.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:13 PM
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Putin introduce laws in books which discriminate against men.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:05 AM
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The most of dictionaries don't confirm your definition of sexism. Your analogy between sexism and racism is incorrect because white-dominant govermental structures don't introduce laws which discriminate against white people, but male-domininant govermental structures introduce laws which discriminate against men. And yes, male-on-male sex-based discrimination is still sex-based discrimination.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:37 PM
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I use misandry because misandry is hatred of men, including self-hatred, not only female chauvinism.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 12:01 AM
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If you're a white cis straight man, you're still more likely to become homeless, or to commit suicide, or be killed during war than a white cis straight woman.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 04:08 PM
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The society is misandrous. And most of people in govermental structures also have misandrous worldview. That's why reaction to candid "I hate men" is weak. People usually hate men. 'Progressive' misandrists say "I hate men", conservative misandrists say "I respect real men", and we should condemn the both of them.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 04:03 PM
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In Russia, it's the law in book. Only men can be sent to the strickt regime colony. Only men can be sentenced to more than 20 years. That's why Irina Gaidamachuk who had killed 17 people, was sentenced to 20 years in prison. ECHR then found this Russian law okay and non-discriminatory.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 11:04 AM
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The first, why do you think that your definition of sexism is correct? It's not the generally accepted definition of sexism. The second... Do you think that modern social gender system created by non-misandrous men? I don't think so. Because non-misandrous worldview can be either clear misogynous, or clear egalitarian, but it can't include such things as thoughts as women are beautiful, men are not beautiful women are fairer sex not all men are real men Non-misandrous people in govermental struc…
/r/MensRights07/07/22 05:32 AM
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"I think insults and misogyny is, of course, absolutely wrong, whether it's a man against a woman, or a woman against a man." he said in october 2021
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:04 PM
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"Men are whining" is not even progressive, it's actually very conservative.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:50 PM
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Reverse sexism doesn't exist, because sexism directed towards men isn't reverse.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:44 PM
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I know Ukrainian good enough to understand what means "Тож станом на теперішній час діючим законодавством України не запроваджено обов'язкового призову жінок по мобілізації." So, there is no legal female compulsory conscription in Ukraine. Не треба тут брехати.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:25 PM
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The occupiers are spreading a fake about the mobilisation of women to the Armed Forces of Ukraine https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/12/7352054/
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:10 PM
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В Україні законодавство передбачає взяття на військовий облік жінок, які мають спеціальність та/або професію, споріднену з військово-обліковою спеціальністю з переліку Міноборони, і придатні до проходження військової служби за станом здоров'я і віком. So, it's not about equal military conscription for physically strong and healthy men and women. And none of Ukrainian women banned from leaving Ukraine. Men are banned. They even can't leave their country during war. Bucha's male civilians couldn't…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:09 PM
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Zelenskyy banned men from leaving Ukraine. It's violation of Article 24 of the Constitution of Ukraine: There shall be no privileges or restrictions based on race, colour of skin, political, religious and other beliefs, sex, ethnic and social origin, property status, place of residence, linguistic or other characteristics. Any questions?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:51 PM
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It's not enough to cancel male only conscription. People still think that shaming of men who were 'draft dogers' is okay even when the coscription is removed. It's not okay. Men who evaded male-only recruitment in the past should be officially rehabilitated. They were not cowards, but the govermental sturctures were discriminators of them.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:37 PM
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Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, Belarus are misandrous states and their govermental structures believe blatant discrimination against men is okay.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:23 PM
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What is feminism? There were four waves of it... I don't think that feminists of the 1st wave would support the feminists of the 4th wave. The conservative Boris Johnson uses the term toxic masculinity, and conservative Dominic Raab doesn't know the word misandry. The modern conservatism is linked to old (and not very old) feminism.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:20 PM
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If Irina Yarovaya be the President, nothing will change. By the way, she literally said 'In Russia, we promote privileges for women'.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:37 PM
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I never support single sex classroom. Just let boys don't hear about their gender. And masculinity defined as a set of attributes, behaviors, and roles associated with men and boys is not really good because misandrous society has misandrous associations.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:27 PM
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I can say that Russian masculists call themselves masculists. And Russian feminists reaction is more tolerant. But in Russia there is a specific legal situation.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 07:13 AM
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Unfair treatment of men is not result of feminism. Because it was also before feminism.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 07:06 AM
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I call myself masculist. Like Warren Farrell and Pasi Malmi do.
/r/MensRights22/06/22 07:04 AM
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Male only consription is sexist. We should stop this.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 06:59 PM
1

Collective responsibility is a toxic idea.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 06:07 PM
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