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Synovexh001/r/MensRights08/12/13 11:03 PM
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Today was t-shirt weather, which is just jolly
/r/RedPillWives08/02/23 10:05 PM
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You describe it very well, I can imagine that a lot of brain cells that could have gone to juggling social cues went to being honest and thoughtful. I don't envy you, but I'm pretty well in the same boat so I feel it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:36 AM
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I... what? You think the Axis being defeated by the Allies is an example of dark triad becoming the norm? I'd have thought you'd go for the Weimar Republic and how extreme personal liberty led directly to fascism, but I like the idea that an Allied victory was a victory for dark triad types, that's a spicy take...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:44 PM
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Whenever humanity has tried to submit individual liberties to group identities, results have been disastrous. When there were individual liberties to be had elsewhere, yes. Communism collapses because people keep fleeing to places that have individual liberties. If you talk to naive western commieboos, they'll tell you it doesn't REALLY count as communism until the entire world is under commie control, and there's nowhere to flee to. Do you know how we could end up with nowhere to flee with indi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:54 PM
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Right, as an explosively-increasing proportion of the gene pool, thanks to women's liberation. Letting women have the power to choose their own partners is the best thing that happened to the evolutionary success of dark triad traits since before the advent of forensic technology. Like, psychopaths and monsters have always existed, but 'the system' provided pressure to shove them to the fringes and made those genes struggle to survive. Now that women are empowered with the right to choose their …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:45 PM
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This is a slippery slope An ethnologist, JD Unwin, wrote a book analyzing how different cultures have different restrictions about sex. By his math, when a sexually-chaste monogamous society becomes sexually liberated, it tends to collapse in about a century. The sexual liberation movement was in the 1960s, we're well short of his prediction, do you really doubt that we're watching society collapse in real time? Once the consequences catch up, your idea of 'autocracy' will be a welcome change to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:32 PM
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individual genes aren’t selected by social cooperation The genes that incline someone to be an aggressive violent rapist would be very selected for in pre-permanent-settlement nomad tribes, but would be quickly removed from the gene pool in a civilized society with a sense of consent, or patriarchical monogamy. Social cooperation is a strong influence against genetic predisposition to anti-social behavior. Remember, behavior is a kind of phenotype that natural selection can exert pressure on, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:16 PM
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Oh absolutely, altruism is net disastrous on an individual level, but evolution doesn't happen on the level of the individual. What you see is, GROUPS that cooperate thrive over groups that don't, and that's what really matters. The issue here, is when self-sacrificing altruistic groups like the monogamous patriarchy that built the abundance and convenience we enjoy today, starts getting people saying 'whatever I don't need anyone else I'll just do what I want' and they start reproducing faster …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:10 PM
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I don't fantasize about hurting women, I'm sure most men are the same, but if a self-insert fantasy written by men for men was centered on glorifying abusive relationships, do you think I'd deny that it was an indicator of a deeper problem we really really need to address? These things are self-insert abuse fantasies for women. What percentage of women do you think would (consciously or subconsciously) seek out abusive relationships before we can at least have a conversation about how the men sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 08:05 PM
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Wait, shoot, did I misunderstand you? I thought for sure your "Cooperativeness has never ensured reproductive success for men" was sarcastic. In which case, monogamous society itself is the best argument against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 07:58 PM
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So you agree with me? He was famous for being good at cooperating with the men competing WITH him, at the expense of the men competing AGAINST him, and thanks to his definitive toxic masculinity, it was a fantastically successful reproductive strategy, as attested by his genetics in most SURVIVING Asian and Central Europeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 07:56 PM
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Right, within communities where everyone follows the same rules so they can share the benefits of that cooperative reproduction, e.g. a monogamous cultural norm. It regulates male competition. You do NOT see cooperation between competitive groups. Atilla the Hun had a reputation for his mastery of coordinating cooperation among his men, and it turned out to be an IMMENSELY successful reproductive strategy, but he's closer to a perfect Toxic Masculinity paragon, was that your point? Here, the com…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:59 PM
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attraction, physical or otherwise, can’t be negotiated I'd like to share another post with you; *** EXHIBIT A; TWILIGHT "Twilight" by Stephanie Meyer; her books have sold over 100,000,000 copies to date, to say nothing of the movies, making it an extremely successful franchise by every definition. In 2008 she outsold every other author. https://www.wltx.com/article/money/twilight-sets-book-sales-records/101-380884048 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/twilight-companion-novel-mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:45 PM
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OBLIGATORY READING: HEMLINE INDEX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemline_index the trend ain't sustainable. Once the economy and infrastructure goes down, we won't have the fashions of a culture acclimated to abundance and stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:59 PM
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I read the article- can you explain to me, using small words, how that disagrees with what I'm saying? Do you suggest that, because early humans used a standard primate "only high status males reproduce" (which is very common knowledge among biologists, my model wasn't ignoring this evidence) polygamy model, that makes it preferable to later-arising monogamous societies (which appeared with permanent settlements and written language)? Do you think trepanation is a better treatment for headaches,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:05 PM
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What aren't you getting about it? Women having their power to choose men creates an environment where toxic, abusive men are GENEROUSLY rewarded, and men who are honest and respect boundaries need to just shut up and be easy to ignore until women are old and desperate enough to fall back on them. My key thesis; WOMEN ARE POWERFUL. WOMEN ARE SO POWERFUL. Women have the power to prove that being a toxic abusive piece of shit is a REALLY REALLY GOOD IDEA, just like they have the power to prove that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:50 PM
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The right to vote, get a job and own property are privileges only possible when won and secured by patriarchy. A society where productive, law-abiding men have a right to sex with a woman; functional, stable society that can persist for centuries. A society where women have the right to vote/job/own property; only possible after the patriarchy does all the heavy lifting creating prosperity/stability, and has entered its phase of decline into collapse. 'Women are property and most men can have se…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:07 PM
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Are you too much of an object to see how women use their considerable power to cause harm to everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:54 AM
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[WARNING: incoming gold-worthy post:] >Do you go outside? ah sweet another episode of 'disagreeing with a woman makes her feel like I must be a pathetic loser, and that feeling proves I'm wrong.' Should I go touch grass? Do you bet I'm a lot of fun at parties? Kraistalmaidee... >The people getting choose are simply externally attractive, internally attractive or both. Let me lay out why that really isn't the 'gotcha' it feels like. EXHIBIT A; TWILIGHT "Twilight" by Stephanie Meyer; her books hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 10:42 PM
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Putting aside how masterfully you evaded getting the point I made about 'ihwt,hw,' , let's look at how you went from I gave plenty of men chances They sucked anyways Result: no more chances See? Women can learn! to "Oh I've had lots of satisfactory relationships" in 4 posts. Women are so effective at invalidating themselves it makes it feel like a waste of effort trying to engage them as if they're adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:30 PM
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Oh, the ones I didn’t date out of pity or nagging were fine. And enough to drive you to permanent celibacy? And why would you date anyone out of pity OR nagging? I'm guessing you grudgingly allowed them to send their time and attention on you when you'd premeditatedly decided they never actually had a chance, just so you could wave it around like it proved anything. If he wants to, he will This is the single dumbest thing I hear women say. If a man lives his life by 'listen to/respect/trust/beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:02 PM
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I'm an actually biologist and let me tell you how wrong you are, with another post; (keeping in mind, evolution doesn't happen on the level of the individual, it happens on the level of populations) ​ Compare 2 cultural reproductive modes; monogamous, where a man is paired with a single woman, and polygamous, where few men monopolize all the women. ​ In monogamous societies, men can focus their attention on being productive, law-abiding citizens who can cooperate with other men without devolving…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:31 PM
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There are some horribly toxic women out there, but these women are held up as representatives of the gender which I find entirely unfair and not helpful to finding any common ground. How can women debate in good faith with men here, when the men don’t seem to see us as human, only shallow creatures with no capacity for empathy or deep emotion? That's right, pot, you tell kettle!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:25 PM
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"I gave plenty of men chances They (the men I chose to give a chance) sucked anyways. Result: no more chances (for men who want to be decent, now that I'm done rewarding sucky men with success, satisfaction and status). After all, the sucky men I do choose couldn't possibly be a reflection of my choices or taste in men, it just proves all men are sucky." See? Woman are objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:23 PM
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something bad will happen if men don't get relationships/sex. Emphatically, yes. Compare 2 cultural reproductive modes; monogamous, where a man is paired with a single woman, and polygamous, where few men monopolize all the women. In monogamous societies, men can focus their attention on being productive, law-abiding citizens who can cooperate with other men without devolving into dick-wagging status-contests. In polygamous societies, only the most brutally ruthless men with the least moral inhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:14 PM
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"Ah yes because basic human rights = killing unborn children". Funny how what women want are 'basic human rights and you're evil for denying them,' but what men want is a luxury and they should shut up and resolve to live without it, in silence, without 'oppressing' women with the 'emotional labor' of thinking about tremendous suicide-causing misery inflicted on a huge (and growing) demographic of men. See that right there? You made it obvious how much of a shit you give about me, and now you ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:53 PM
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So you were sexually active (by your own account) and the men you had sex with were not respectful to you as a person (by your own account) and once you're in your late 30s (by your own account) you just cut sex with men out of your life entirely? Please imagine your own story scaled up to population-level; disrespectful men who see women as sex objects (and are 'so confident' because they don't waste emotional labor on empathy or honesty) consistently make it to the front of the line for being …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:41 PM
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Right? It's sort of the grim-shadow-counter-balance of dating apps making it easy for women to pick the most attractive men in 20 miles instead of in their own neighborhood, is that same technology makes it easy for men to see what a raw deal that makes it for most of them. emanresu eht rof tiderc artxe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:27 PM
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We really need to settle on an official recorded lexicon for the sake of posterity. These conversations are super telling about current culture and will be vital lessons to future generations, but it's jibberish if they think 'Chad' 'Becky' and 'Stacey' are just random names. :D:D
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:58 PM
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So what do women want men to say/do when they feel oppressed? There's a major theme on [universal mainstream Western culture] that women or birthing people just want "total equality [according to whatever they feel counts as equality]", but this does nothing to change their plight. So what should we do? If we say no one "deserves" equality, if that takes away consent. You cry about it. If we say no one is required to respect you as an equal. You cry about it. If we concede men are bigger and str…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:46 PM
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It’s champagne to someone who doesn’t drink alcohol. I need water. [she said, chugging any champagne bottle she finds and ignoring abundant water sources and complaining about how it's the alcohol's fault she drinks]
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:53 PM
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You are complaining over the quality of champagne when men can’t even get water to quench their thirst. absolute kino
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:52 PM
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LOL it's kinda funny how it varies person by person- I'm a property manager, and I would deadass no cap fr fr rather spend an hour getting filthy in a crawlspace, than spend 20 minutes doing data entry on a computer. The 'perfect job' got a lot to do with who's doing the work!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:32 PM
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tl;dr- I missed the point so hard that I'm just gonna make up what I need it to say to validate the FEELINGS I FEEL like FEELING. Seriously, is it that hard to process? Women have tremendous power to influence the behavior of men. Maybe the fact that so many societies across history are patriarchical, is just the result of the fact that societies that trusted women to be responsible with their reproductive power overwhelmingly don't survive? That a society where shitty shitty shitty men have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:29 PM
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It just continues to amaze me that men and women are so fundamentally different that it's this misguided to hold them to the same standard. For context; I was 25 when I lost my virginity. I'd wanted to have sex all the time since puberty hit, but I sabotaged myself by trying religiously to never do anything dishonest or misogynistic. I was AFRAID of being the kind of guy who would EVER 'pump and dump' a woman. I only wanted to have sex with someone I'd have a lifelong relationship with, who I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:20 PM
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A) I'm in my 30s and never once spoke the phrase 'peak reproductive windows' IRL, and I was in my 30s when I started talking about it as an issue. Using that as an excuse to tell yourself 'well that's why he's single, serves him right' when I never once used the term all through my teens and 20s, is a poetically eloquent demonstration of how women don't give advice to be helpful, they give advice to satisfy their own emotional needs. B) Speaking solely from my own experience talking to men AND w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 10:03 PM
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AmishPill I'm very compelled, tell me more sempai? Some folks make them sound like a nightmare of human rights abuse and ignorance, but damn if they don't look like an American fairytale. Beige Meaningless Existence /r/thatsmybandname I can see value in competition and striving to reach the top, but it's easy to take it to a toxic extreme. Really, to the credit of /u/Urbantexasguy, I will argue both sides of this. People who take modern luxury for granted and romanticize medieval living need a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:49 PM
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Doookay, I misread your point- I was not distinguishing between close companions/family and social media chowderheads, that's an important distinction I missed out on. A healthy environment for a social primate is face-to-face interaction, but a normal person could get their psyche shredded if they cared what everyone on social media thought. Keep up the good work and spread the message, I'll try to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:38 PM
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I guess this is a matter of taste, because I disagree. I see the kind of women who are available in the modern age, and I'd rather do field labor than wreck my life with a real emotional connection to most of the ones I meet. It's worth noting, though- if you've spent 25 years coding in AC and going to country clubs? You are the equivalent of landed gentry (as am I, no judgement). You're on the money that the grandest royalty would probably trade places with a Macdonalds cook just to access luxu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:30 PM
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Yeah, they are living breathing proof that being a colossally shitty human being is a really, really good idea. I've wanted to marry and have children since I was a teen, I've gobbled up the bullshit of 'women deserve your respect,' I clung to my idiotic beliefs about being honest and respectful and a good ally and partner, and my entire goddamn romantic life is one long blur of 'wow that guy is a shitty shitty shitty person, exactly the kind of man I've spend my life trying not to be like, I be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:18 PM
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Putting aside the fact that your 17-word comment is devoid of any substance but your own obvious projection; > It's frustrating that you seem to miss what's obvious to me; women consistently make it clear how much they don't give a shit about men at all. I'd ask you to consider; if you ACTUALLY believe in gender equality, why would you expect men to feel any different about y'all?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:09 PM
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I'm a little embarrassed that I need to explain, but okay. To start, 'bad' is relative. For 99% of human cultures for 99% of history, your idea of 'gender equality' is unambiguously 'bad.' If you look at the benefits women get thanks to men and the patriarchy, everything that men have done to make the lives of women as safe and comfortable as it is, free sex is a pretty sensible price, isn't it? I mean, women are sexually empowered, right? Why not use that power responsibly? Women using sex as '…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:00 PM
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In an absolute sense, things like antibiotics and satellites benefit humans as a whole, but in a relative sense, men are screwed over. Let's start with a simple analogy; men have more grip strength than women, they're so different it barely overlaps. A man can open a pickle jar with no help, a woman will often need a man's help. If a man invents a machine that opens pickle jars, now women can open jars without a man's help. This invention does nothing to help men, who didn't need help, but it sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:46 PM
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I have read that book, it is very good information and helpful, but it isn't the whole story. Humans are social primates, and the only way to have a truly healthy life is within a social network with people you care about. 'Don't base your self-esteem on others' is a great bumper sticker, but unless you live in a monastery or are crazy wealthy, it's basically just setting yourself up for failure. Good to have integrity and self-respect, but no man is an island and lives are ruined by the attempt…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:21 PM
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So, to women, you could actually have sex and still consider it a rejection? Can you even imagine how utterly privileged this sounds to most men? Your idea of 'rejection' is an average man's idea of 'GREAT VICTORY!'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:40 PM
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Right, and the only reason they don't know is thanks to the patriarchy creating such prosperity and convenience that it's POSSIBLE for women to provide for themselves, and so much stability and safety that it's POSSIBLE for women to survive without a man's protection. And now y'all are actively destroying the system that made your empowerment anything more than a far-fetched pipe dream. How are you expecting that to go?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:34 PM
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Most of those disgusting men you're pointing out are overwhelmingly men who learned how to be men from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:30 PM
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hold yourselves accountable raised in a feminist household and being a passionate, devoted believer, I had no problem juggling the fact that "gender equality" = "only men are to blame." Women are 50% of the dating equation and 0% of the accountability. Be datable. The problem with that; devoted feminist men think 'be datable' means 'be compassionate, considerate, and respectful.' In real-world application, what women SAY is 'datable' is, for 80%+ of men, self-sabotage. I say to you now; by real-…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:29 PM
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Let's take that analogy of a grifter or scammer; I'd rather work hard at an honest job rather than sleaze my way into money, even if scammers are getting more money for less effort. A BIG PART of why I don't envy scammers is that they're always one slip-up away from life in jail or a horrible death. I don't ever see scamming victims ACTIVELY PROTECT SCAMMERS AND ENABLE THEM. That's kind of unheard of. Now, let's talk about why this is a false equivalence. Sex is not money. Comparable, but not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:44 PM
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'progressive countries', in perspective to human history, are an EXTREMELY recent phenomenon, and every single one of them is built on a foundation of patriarchal societies. I'd love to hear you give an example of a struggling, unhappy patriarchical society switching to progressive norms, which resulted in stable, prosperous, safe societies. Every 'progressive' society I know of is the reverse, built on the labor, risk and sacrifice of 'awful ignorant oppressive patriarchy' that did all the heav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:25 PM
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These stats reflect the lower class and have no bearing on YOUR beta male dating pool ​ ah sweet another episode of 'women assuming men feel attraction and choose partners the same way women do.' Protip; 'not high status' is a relationship deal-breaker for women much more than men. I probably count as upper-middle class, I've wanted to get married and have a family since I was a teenager, I probably fit the bill for your idea of 'beta male dating pool' and I'd be happy as hell to wed a trustwort…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:34 AM
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By our definition of 'violent criminals,' for most of humanity's existence (for tens of thousands of years before written history), it looks like aggressive, dominant men who didn't abide by any municipal laws were, in fact, highly selected for. You know what stopped that? Patriarchy. Monogamy. Social standards of appropriate sexual conduct. Men controlling women's sexuality because women couldn't be trusted to control their own. You know, all the evil oppression that progressive feminism is act…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:30 AM
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>This theoretical ‘boring beta with a steady job’ probably isnt looking for a ‘trashy’ woman working at a 7/11 ah sweet another episode of 'women assuming men feel attraction and choose partners the same way women do.' Protip; 'not high status' is a relationship deal-breaker for women much more than men. I probably count as upper-middle class, I've wanted to get married and have a family since I was a teenager, and I'd be happy as hell to wed a trustworthy working-class woman (IF IF IF they didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:25 AM
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>often because of violence or other abuse Think of how this looks to me (not assuming other guys) who was raised to be devoutly, passionately committed to the ideal that being violent and abusive with a woman is an unthinkable evil, and would never EVER treat a woman like that. My entire romantic life ultimately consists of me wishing I could trade places with the shitty abusive men I try so hard not to be like. Now think of how this looks to a biologist; empowered, liberated women (poor, trauma…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:19 AM
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You just A) described the behavior of men who are supremely shitty human beings and B) admitted that it is, in fact, a valid and effective reproductive strategy thanks to women being empowered to choose their own partners. So ultimately you're still agreeing with OP's key premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 11:10 AM
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>Most Boys Which you capitalized like it's a fundamental law of reality because of course you did. This is why gender equality fails. You could have 'Most Girls' being selfish toxic misogynistic stereotypes, and all the evidence vanishes in a puff of 'how dare you stereotype, see here's a cherry-picked example that makes women look good, that's all the proof you need!' Imagine how it looks to me, who lived my whole life trying to be better than Most Boys and seeking serious committed relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:15 PM
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Really? From what I see that comment is -1. The rabbit hole deepens...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:54 PM
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I'll give you my angle. I was born into a feminist household with an emotionally unstable older sister who had permission to use me as her punching bag. The two combined to make a really militant, dogmatic believer out of me, and I was really determined to follow all the rules women demanded and actually BE the kind of man that women say men are supposed to be. I wasn't short or fat or shy, I was (I think) good looking, smart, funny, honest, etc. I thought I was a catch and I'd have an easy time…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:54 PM
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A) Nice anecdotal evidence. I can find examples of heroin creating music legends, or people who used meth to become math geniuses. There are always exceptions, but there are greater patterns, too. Toss a coin once, very low certainty how it will land, but toss it 10,000 times, you can be confident it's about 50% heads. Knowing a handful of exceptional cases proves nothing. B) YET. It was pushed forward under a period of unprecedented abundance, infrastructure, science, industry, technology etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:58 AM
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Isn't that convenient that you didn't demand any stats from the poster that /u/swapsta was replying to?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:03 PM
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I wanna know how you got negative downvotes. Isn't that supposed to be impossible for PurpPill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:02 PM
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​ Let's talk about this false equivalence ​ >women get dismissed for height ​ A height requirement is such a consistent force acting upon men that it's practically a law of physics. In my whole life I've never even heard of a woman being dismissed for her height. If I had a chance with a taller woman, I'd take it. ​ >bone structure ​ Again, a one-shot chance-killer for men seeking women but a minor strike against for women seeking men. Again, law of physics for men, minor hurdle for women. ​ >bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:01 PM
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"Yet I continually meet men who are good enough that they actually exist in my world. Why do you have any empathy for men who aren't good enough to exist for women?" This is why gender equality fails. Women built their whole inner cosmology around the men who are attractive enough that no matter what they do they could juggle women. And the majority who don't fall into that circle should just stop existing for the sake of making reality shape itself around your 'emotional needs.' Like, imagine w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:53 PM
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Depending how you decide it, yes. Someone genetically inclined to obesity who doggedly diets and exercises will be more attractive than someone genetically inclined to fitness who eats garbage and naps all day, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:17 PM
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Let's talk about this false equivalence. ​ Men get dismissed by women for height, bone structure, penis size etc., all factors that they really can't change so they're pretty much doomed to be anything more than a fallback once a woman's old enough to get through her 'bad boy phase'. ​ Women get dismissed for being overweight, toxic behavior, promiscuous past etc., all factors under their control. 80% of American women don't need to be overweight, the average woman could be tomboy-athletic and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:31 PM
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well because you said please, alright
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:28 PM
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​ So... Reddit-tier non-comments are sort of your thing, then? EDIT: I'm genuinely curious how this comment got -1 votes when it's not supposed to be possible to downvote? I smell a conspiracy. EDIT: -2 points now? The rabbit-hole deepens...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 01:43 AM
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A) Literally nobody says this. I'll give you gold if you can find any relevant publication or broadcast that actually states something like this. The fact that it feeeeeels like it to you, isn't proof of the outside world, it's proof of the world in your own head. B) your solution is to make sure all men know they are just as bad as abusive rapists? Because 'all men benefit' from abusive rapists? And all men deserve punishment, even if they're constantly giving up opportunities for the sake of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:20 PM
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It is also worth noting; My original point to start this discussion was to refute your point >zero men wanted relationships at this age which I, by personal experience, am proof of falsehood. I never claimed to be wholesome, until you started attacking my wholesomeness. All your arguments for why I'm not 'wholesome' have nothing to do with any shortcomings you can name, but simply because my desire to be a loving father and husband wasn't adequate for your nebulous, subjective, arbitrary, abstra…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:08 AM
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>you not wanting to exploit women doesn't make you wholesome how the hell? >that's neutral WHOLESOME IS NEUTRAL SWEET CHRIST >doesn't mean that simply not wanting to exploit people is "wholesome" This is why respect for women is a lost cause. Shitty, selfish, abusive, manipulative men rarely have trouble finding women who'll twist reality into pretzels to rationalize it. Yet, being a decent human who forgoes many chances to be happy for the sake of respecting women gets a guilt trip of 'well tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:59 AM
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>this is a ubiquitous human need/desire I wanna know where you went to high school, that has you thinking 'I want to get married to my high school sweetheart' is 'a ubiquitous human need'. My whole experience is that me wanting to have devoted love and commitment for a woman and not just 'fuck and chuck' her put me head and shoulders above the moral standards of most of my peers who had little trouble slithering into women. I was weird for wanting to get married. I was literally told 'dude don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:37 PM
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Wanting to find love in high school, then college, then my 20s isn't wholesome enough? Wanting a "loving, devoted romantic relationship that I would want my kids to grow up being exposed to" isn't wholesome enough? My entire dating strategy was 'listen to women respect women trust women believe women'. How many women do you think try to teach men how to be a 'moral leader in a relationship'?!?!? How much of my accepting the moral authority of empowered progressive women amounted to anything othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:17 PM
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>zero men wanted relationships at this age Objectively false. I wanted to find love in high school and marry. Didn't happen. I then wanted to find love in college and marry. Didn't happen. I then wanted to find love in my 20s and marry. Didn't happen. I was totally seeking the kind of loving, devoted romantic relationship that I would want my kids to grow up being exposed to. All I did was make myself a defective reject that should shut up and patiently wait for women to get over their 'bad boy …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:33 PM
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Interesting, thanks. There's definitely a risk of that, but at the same time there's a lot in human biology to by cynical about. If someone talks about how women are oppressed in a way that encourages cynical self-defeatism, would their arguments be dismissed as 'gender cynicism?' I mean, human beings are primates. We've got lots of built-in mechanisms that can be super toxic if not tempered by culture/philosophy. That the truth can make you cynical doesn't make it untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:59 PM
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All across human history, you see a redundant theme in most cultures regarding courtship and creating new generations of life; men pursue women, and women decide (if they're allowed) which pursuer is good enough. You could write it off as a conspiracy, that there's some globe-encompassing 'patriarchy' forcing everyone to do this, and we can free ourselves by destroying this paradigm. That's a lot easier to chew on (but a lot harder to substantiate by evidence) than the grim realization that, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:34 PM
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Can you explain that? I'm a biologist but never heard the term 'biological cynicism,' it sounds relevant to my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:04 PM
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All across human history, you see a redundant theme in most cultures regarding courtship and creating new generations of life; men pursue women, and women decide (if they're allowed) which pursuer is good enough. You could write it off as a conspiracy, that there's some globe-encompassing 'patriarchy' forcing everyone to do this, and we can free ourselves by destroying this paradigm. That's a lot easier to chew on (but a lot harder to substantiate by evidence) than the grim realization that, thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:54 AM
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A) implying women don't find reasons to have sex with men they find gross? Bit naive, much? I can think of like 5 exceptions offhand. I wonder what ratio of men have only had sex with women who found them gross. B) Every man who has ever had sex with 30+ women has found 30+ women who didn't find him gross. Checkmate. C) Are you really missing the point I was making that hard? That for men who don't get sex at all, their sexual history is far more of an obstacle than it is for men OR women with 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 11:46 PM
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*Men being sexually inexperienced is just downright gross, to most women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:57 PM
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Fine, you want me to keep quoting you directly? Here; <in response to someone saying constant, unvarying rejection is bad for mental health>; "Then those people are mentally weak, and they shouldn’t date." Logically, you're so emotionally uninvested in the women you sleaze on that rejection is painless (compared to non-sociopaths). That men who, unlike you, actually have emotional investment in the women they pursue are "weak" and should just remove themselves from the dating pool. Thanks for yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:12 PM
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I literally copied and pasted exactly what you said. And here you are, slithering out of accountability to your own words, almost like it's a skill you've built up to the point it's intuitive. The more I try to learn about what makes men successful in the dating scene, the more I regret the years I wasted trying to be a decent person who respects women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 06:40 PM
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Why do you care what women tell you? Behold, the attitude of the kind of man who thinks the modern dating scene is just fine. Male allies, take notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:58 PM
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I can tell from your comments you're a woman. "Just hit on women non-stop constantly! It will eventually work, just do it all the time! B-b-but NOT in social groups! If you do that it won't work! In a social group, you just sit there. And exist. Like an object. And then relationships will just happen! That's how it works for women, therefore that's how it works for men! Men and women are equal, so if the sit-there-and-exist strategy works for women, that proves it works for men! If it doesn't wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:56 PM
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>There is no reason this should be difficult at all. You're good, kid, but this was your first mistake >https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/male-and-female-brains-really-are-built-differently/281962/ As one of the only truly universal rules of neuroscience, the one thing that all myriad types of intelligence have in common is this; they don't know what they don't know. Cognitive blind spots are very tricky to discovery, and are deadly vulnerabilities. Even in your own brain, the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 04:58 AM
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Valid question, and I hope you get good answers. Here's another, if you like; (background; answer coming from someone raised to be passionate about gender equality, who despised hookup culture and had wanted to get married since I was old enough to like girls. My best-case scenario was marrying my high-school sweetheart. Second best-case was marrying my college sweetheart. Third best was finding someone special in my early 20s. I made it well into my 30s before hearing my own damn mother tell me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:25 PM
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I LOL at the pitiful non-empath untermensch who can't self-insert. I don't think I've ever watched porn without a mindset of "man I hope my future wife looks like that/enjoys that, I'd be so happy." Are guys who can't fantasize themselves into the man's role the same NPCs who can't form visual images in their head, or have an inner monologue? (Not that I have much hope for a wife at this point. Can't cuck someone with no relationship, CHECKMATE!) Unless you mean guys who legit have romantic feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:29 AM
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Thanks man. I got a lot of work in front of me but at least I've got a good start going, keep chasing that light at the end of the tunnel!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 08:36 PM
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I'm a long way from East Africa, so I suppose I'm dropping out of this race, which is a shame but such is the nature of the game! I totally sympathize, though- my parents are very progressive and liberal, and gave me a 'do whatever you feel in your heart' attitude, which left me thinking 'no dammit I want you to make my choices for me.' Arranged marriage is scary, but I'm more and more believing it would be worth biting the bullet and pouring my heart into a relationship with a stranger if that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:56 PM
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Right? It's frustrating because I want to love and trust and respect women so so much. I keep clinging to the belief that, hey, they probably meant well, the advice was probably a genuine attempt to be helpful. "You can just sit there and react to the opposite sex acting upon you, it's that easy!" I wanna believe they tried so hard. For the last couple of years, I'll just have outbursts of anger, which I never used to have. I guess this is who I am now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 07:34 PM
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>you don't ask fish for tips on how to catch the fish. I snorted and jiggled the cat on my lap well done
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:06 AM
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>imply that i want to eat out I don't know where people learn this. I never would have figured it out so I'm glad you're telling me now! >men aren’t looking to date men. they want to date then marry a woman I mostly agree with you, but at the same time I can see a good selling point to a man in a woman's body. I really ain't opposed to the woman taking charge, I'd just feel better if I could be confident that we had roles that didn't shift around based on what works for her. >not to say that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:04 AM
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Thanks much, overall I have little to complain about in life but I'm glad to have some stories to share that might be helpful!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:51 PM
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How do you get paid to ridicule thirsty simps?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 11:49 PM
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There's def a strong influence of factors that you can't change with the gym, but the difference between soft-body short and no jaw and gym-regular short and no jaw can be the difference between success and failure. It might not always seem like 'much,' but it can make a heck of a lot of difference, and it is something you can do something about. A guy who doesn't start going to the gym til 30 could get confidence and stamina enough to surprise himself at how much more attractive he's become. 'w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 07:25 PM
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Fair question OP, I get that this is a hypothetical but worth talking about. This is kind of a ramble but maybe it could be informative? My own answer; I'm very bitter because, all throughout my childhood, my teens, my twenties well into my 30s, I was gung-ho totally sold on "listen to women respect women trust women believe women." I was 100% on board with defining my moral world around being an ally to women, never lie, never put up a front, don't be assertive, 'just be yourself,' 'never do an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:52 PM
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>unanimously Good luck finding that. There are men whose greatest sexual thrill is getting kicked in the balls, and being raped is one of the most common sex fantasies among women. Even stuff like infidelity and incest aren't totally universal. Except maybe voting for the wrong political party, that's something we can all agree is unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:36 PM
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If I see that we share a common interest, I'll put an effort into making conversation and seeing where it can go. Always good to have an excuse to meet new folks imho, even if there's no sex appeal. ​ Sex appeal makes it easier tho
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 01:11 AM
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I unironically like FDS standards... as a starting point for young women. God willing I'll have daughters, and I plan to raise them with FDS-level self-respect. What IRKS me, though, is these women on FDS who spent their teens and twenties flinging themselves into affirming the beliefs of garbage men who unironically think of women as disposable sex toys, and only once they're old enough that the fuckboiz don't want them anymore, all of a goddamn sudden they 'know their worth' and any man who wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:09 PM
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You realized you called a guy an idiot because he didn't base his worldview around the exception? As you seem to have? Also, ​ Ukrain wasn't REALLY a gender-equal country! ​ None of them are "real" gender-equal countries. Part because the movement's perfection of 'no true scotsman' so that anything can be misogyny if your feelings feel like it, part, because of natural selection where cultures that stray from patriarchical norms are heavily selected against in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:29 PM
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bit like saying, "Adults start the wars, so let the adults die" Or "humans start the wars, so let the humans die" Or "politicians start the wars..." o wait
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 09:25 PM
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I'm glad some good came of it, I hope the discussion serves you well! It's all I really hope for when I'm typing stuff out. Best of luck in your adventures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:30 PM
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Masochism isn't accidentochism. The world is rarely easy to live in, being able to adapt to pain is one of humanity's neatest tricks. Tho frankly, friendly and calm I save in in-person discussion. Anonymous web posting? I'm just trying to vent out. It's definitely addictive- I don't touch booze much and have general good self-control, but I am consciously aware of how much time I squander just because someone is WRONG on the INTERNET and I NEED to make sure they KNOW it. Frankly I'd be happy as …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:18 PM
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Thanks, we all gotta figure out our own brokeness but overall I got really lucky. I am overall glad for the relationships with women in my life, and that I can keep a friendship with someone I wanna sleep with, but it'd be a whole lot easier to deal with if I had much sex life otherwise. IDK what you seek on this sub or what the band is, but hours on reddit won't help you grow as much as music, so I say aye. <3 ps what kind of band? pps o rite LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:43 PM
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Good question, yes, in 2 respects; women I'm attracted to who don't want me, and women attracted to me whom I'm not interested in. Mutually platonic is usually family members, but I've had some non-family fem-friends. I def have some positive friendships, but I feel like none of them are super close. I don't think I learned enough to balance out the lessons I got growing up, being bullied by my sister while being forbidden from fighting back kinda ruined my sense of relationships with women. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:57 PM
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I know you misogynists think you are right do you know any reason (not feelings) that we shouldn't? Women have always known this since we learned what the word meant All women are raised being taught not to have a discussion with those who disagree with them? You don't see this as a recipe for disaster? Why bother trying to have a conversation with one? Because their problematic beliefs that cause a lot of suffering for both genders, and that often arise from firsthand experience, could be chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 06:28 PM
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Your whole woe is me isn't going to help Ya know I've been getting this response for decades, right? You aren't the first to tell me. Thanks for being part of the problem. And consider, for a mental exercise; why would I feel any different about you? Though its clear the therapy ain't helping. Wow. That's a yikes from me. Oof. I bet you're fun at parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:44 PM
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"I won't bother to read it, but I'm going to make sure you know I didn't" What an utterly woman response. Way to prove the misogynists right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:39 PM
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Yet you wonder why people dont want to associate with you? ... ... I'm starting to consider the possibility that this cartoon version of me you're talking to in my place is becoming an obstacle. Lemme lowkey flex; Today is my birthday. I've been making a whole week of it, but this is the exclamation point. I invited folks out to movies, but with short notice most folks had to rain check. On Friday I saw Uncharted with my boys Tim and Devan, had a great time. Saturday I got a matinee of Death on …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:15 PM
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You can live in delusional idealism or come back to reality. this is why it's not your fault I'm being so high-conflict. I want to believe this is wrong but in the whole breadth of my intellectual grasp of reality I can't find enough to justify it. I'm not here to coddle you yep, what I've been taught to expect. Funny. you fucked up right, and my fuck-up would have been 100% preventable if I'd known better than to expect adult accountability from women. why you fucked up Swingandamiss. You're sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 09:05 PM
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I got no claim to be a good source of instruction, but... I say just stand up where you are, walk over to the guy and tell him what you just told us. Being married to a woman who would tell you that is a total life-win condition, it's like going for a walk and finding a diamond. Just worry that he thinks it's a prank because he doesn't believe his luck. For real, I feel like women stir up a lot of pain and stress by projecting their own thought pattern/style onto men. Typically men have really s…
/r/RedPillWomen06/03/22 03:35 PM
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You made a mistake once and it bothers you this much? Right, that's exactly the thing, it DOES bother me, because i built my whole life around wanting to be a good ally to women, and thinking men who get women drunk is the most despicable scum-move you can do, and I end up doing just that after putting so much effort into respecting boundaries and consent I honestly didn't think it was something to even fucking worry about. It was traumatic. Read that again; it was literally a painful traumatic …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:23 PM
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Its the same attitude, isnt it? yeah, but that's wrong. Being irrational isn't the same of being mindless. There are many types of intelligence where someone can be highly intelligent while their specific thought process is totally irrational. My initial citation, I was saying giving a drunk girl water could seem predatory, which is true. I know you don't understand, /u/roaming_bartender, [whom I'm beginning to assume has invested a large amount of time and attention to alcohol and women seeking…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 04:23 PM
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Go ahead and grunt "get help" as an excuse to stop thinking about me, I'm used to it. You get confronted with the firsthand damage done by the principles you push on others, and your mind goes straight to telling yourself 'well he needs help' so you can go back to your happy little life where I don't exist and you don't have to think about the pain your beliefs cause. Must be nice. I never had the privilege. ps if 'get help' means 'go to therapy,' I've been doing that constantly for nearly two d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:50 PM
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equally not want a woman to put on a strap on and fuck your ass until it bleeds equally fuck your ass until it bleeds my first kiss, didn't even make it to 2nd base equally talk about unhinged Were not equals I... uh... so we agree? its a bigger risk for women than men who have a naturally higher tolerance. Again, your native social circles made that feel like common knowledge, but I had no idea. Funny how my being LESS experienced than you at getting drunk and getting good at reading drunk wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:20 PM
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That's actual predatory behavior because if you replace kiss with sex it sounds like rape. And I went into it thinking I could respect women as equals, thinking if I did nothing predatory and respected their needs and boundaries, it would go fine and I would have nothing to worry about. 'Why worry? What am I afraid of? Why would I think something bad is gonna happen?' And this is what comes of it. Goddamn I regret ever thinking of them as more than objects. you think you're an experienced genius…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:49 PM
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'"Something I never said" -me' -you Clown. Did this actually sound like a point in your head? handing someone a glass of water pffffhahaha, holy shit THAT is what you're calling 'helping'? I keep water bottles in the car and hand them out to strangers who AREN'T drunk at a get-drunk-and-fuck-drunk party. A glass of water? So if she was too drunk to walk you'd just leave a glass of water and walk off? You're setting the bar pretty low if 'give them water' is what's making you feel like a hero. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 06:46 PM
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no one thinks im a predator when I'm trying to help a drunk girl sober up. you're projecting, believing that others are as rational as you are. All the good intentions and rational decision making are meaningless before a woman's feeeeeeelings. You wouldn't be the first case of a guy trying to 'help a drunk girl sober up' (tf does that even mean? Give her an IV?) getting shit cuz it looked like he was carrying her off and his good intentions were for shit. if you think your average person sees t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:40 PM
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Really now. Ya Seems like you have some male self guilt there YA THINK!?!?!? How do you think that happened? Who put that there? You don't think it could be related to spending my entire childhood at the mercy of our feminist family therapist who had an open goal of beating that into me? being a man is predatory from the sound of it. If you spend enough time with enough devotion to 'listen to women respect women trust women believe women,' yes this is the conclusion you will draw. You are the so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 03:13 PM
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As I'm learning to expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:10 PM
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Living caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:09 PM
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Must be nice. I'm sure it seems so easy coming from the point of view of the one who gets to decide what counts as predatory. You don't even have to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:03 PM
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Well, your feelings have made up their mind so I guess the discussion is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:03 PM
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Hahahaahahah rather than educate yourself on a point of which you were ignorant, you squat out a reply that has zero point at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:02 PM
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Care to elaborate on that? Cuz with my background, your assessment is so far off the mark it's comical. Small back story; My first kiss was on a NYE while I was a teenager. A girl I'd been crushing on was there, and I chatted her up, and she spent the whole night bragging about how she's a 'responsible drinker' and 'only drinks to get tipsy hee hee', which I believed. Near midnight, I asked to be her kiss, and she agreed. It was great. Then she started throwing up. Turns out she was way too drun…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:00 PM
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Underrated poster
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:53 PM
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a bit of alcohol is always a positive No male in my entire sphere would be brave enough to say that out loud. Admitting that you see alcohol as a 'positive' to approaching women is predatory with a capital P, for the be-penised of us raised in the 'listen to women respect women trust women believe women' camp. Easy to take it for granted that, if things go wrong, there's one gender whose fault it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:52 PM
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I mean I’ll say what everyone else probably says is if you make it creepy or weird I’m gonna feel creepy or weird. Not sure how to explain that but just trust your gut. You could have made this the entire post. Just say "guys whom women find attractive can do whatever they want with impunity, guys who women don't find attractive can just screw off and die or else they're 'creepy.'" For real. As someone raised drinking the 'gender equality' kool-aid, my world would be a lot less painful if I'd se…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:50 PM
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We don't try to pass as confident; we are confident.Goddamn ingrate peabrained SHITSTAIN. Ooooh, oh it’s just that easy! You just ARE confident! How FUCKING nice for you!Read this slowly, because I want it to really sink in; I was raised in a feminist household, where respecting women as equals was MANDATORY. I also lived as a physical and emotional punching bag for my abusive older sister. Because equality. The feminist family therapist who had ultimate control over my family knew about this ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:46 PM
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Excellent question, 3 main factors I can think of; 1) Across the globe, in countless cultures, in a diversity of environments, the courtship paradigm is 'men pursue, women get pursued.' If men have nobody to pursue, or no hope their pursuits lead anywhere, it's like missing a vital mineral from their body, or a minor organ. For women, 'not getting pursued' effectively means 'getting left alone,' as the whole courtship paradigm means women 'getting pursued' means 'sifting through the majority of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:51 PM
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like anyone can But that's wrong. I cannot vet like women can. It doesn't take a lot of research to find out women are constantly CONSTANTLY dealing with men approaching them, men trying to impress them, men taking the initiative to approach and try and prove they're good enough. If I'm vetting for women to play a role in the dance OTHER than 'be an object getting acted upon by men', I'm pretty much just setting myself up for disappointment. psych 101 lol wut? I never took psych 101, I thought I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:20 PM
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That you describe the process like this just shows how incredibly out of touch you are. Exactly, you know why? Because I never did that. I took my dating advice from women, and their advice was 'just be yourself.' I did. I dressed fine, had good hygiene, good sense of humor, no issue walking up to a woman and starting a conversation, and the whole time it was all an honest expression of me just being myself. You know how shitty of a deal that was? My entire experience was overwhelming getting re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:34 PM
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I haven't even begun to peak citation? And when I do peak, you'll know. citation? Feels like I struck a nerve I'm gonna peak so hard that everybody in Philadelphia's gonna feel it. citation? it really feels like you're just making shit up because it's what would need to be true in order for your emotional needs to be satisfied. Talk about a different experience in life- if my whole value-add was that I'm good at talking shit about 'yeah I'm the best' 'yeah I'm awesome' 'yeah this city can't hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:59 PM
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lead with not being able to handle a woman with a sexual past 2 thoughts; I should do you the courtesy of opening with a convenient way for you to let your emotional response shut down your brain rather than foment a cogent rebuttal. Because I should preemptively acknowledge that you use your feelings as a substitute for actually thinking things through, and cater to your child's-mind convenient comfort. Funny how I'm supposed to be the one who feels insulted. Imagine I tried to diss you because…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:43 PM
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thinking amounts to nothing if it's built on the expectation that women have a thought process beyond their emotional reaction it's an older stereotype but it checks out. Serves me right for saying something women don't want to hear and expecting more than a childish 'nuh uh'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:47 PM
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Okay, thought experiment; can you imagine envying, and admiring, and RESPECTING, someone who is absolute disgusting garbage whom you were raised form birth to thing was a monster. I'm not gonna express this right but I'm gonna try anyway- this guy you're talking about, getting sex for drugs? He sounds like utter human garbage. He sounds like an absolute ratfuck shitstain of a human being. And you know what? I never had sex in college. I was strict about planning my entire romantic/dating life ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 07:02 PM
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Why would men “not like hearing” that we are allowed to judge someone based on their sexual history? Obviously we are. What we are also in control of is vetting for and avoiding women who spent their peak years reinforcing the beliefs of men who see women as sex objects, and only grow out of it once they're old enough that the fuckbois don't want them any more. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:41 PM
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Men can just as easily say no as women can. Someone starving to death can say 'no' to someone giving them food just as easily as someone giving out food can say 'no' to someone starving to death asking for food. Therefore, someone starving and someone with food are equals with no power imbalance. Also, a heroin addict can say 'no' to heroin as easily as a heroin dealer can say 'no' to giving an addict heroin, therefore they're equal and there's no power imbalance. Apply yourself, yo! Men have ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 06:35 PM
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it's a hamfisted allegory but an allegory all the same
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:16 AM
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A quick analogy, in case it helps; ​ Imagine humans are asexual, we can reproduce without sex, we have only one hermaphrodite gender and there's no confusion about 'men are like this women are like this,' yeah? With me so far? ​ No imagine this; there's a morphological binary of these non-sexual humans; exactly half of them are born with an organ that lets them produce as much organic morphine as they ever need, while the other half are born addicted to morphine. ​ So one half of the species bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:32 PM
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Yes Future societies will look on the internet histories of the modern age from the far side of a cataclysmic collapse and say 'what the hell were they expecting to happen?'
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:01 PM
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Hey, you actually cited sources! Way to go, I'm proud of you! Interesting how "cultural competence" sec. III ch. 9 has a whole chapter focusing on women's issues, with none equivalent for men. Or how Google doesn't show any books titled 'Women and Health Organizations.' Or that a medical student would misspell edition. But, still! This is a triumph, thank you for raising my expectation of women! we are not here to talk about male issues Verily, few people anywhere are, for risk of being branded …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 04:49 PM
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A) it'd be very, very easy to reference a textbook as evidence, they probably even cite primary sources B) that's literally all the response you have? Serves me right for expecting any better. Absolute meme. I mentioned 'Women live longer than men, men die from suicide at 4x the rate women do and men die from workplace dangers 10x what women do,' and you conveniently decided to pretend it just didn't exist. As I've learned to expect. Think of how much of a shit you very obviously give about men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 01:43 PM
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Your formatting is starting to get confusing, correct me if I'm interpreting this wrong. If you make friends with someone and let them into your life, but they turn out to be a secret serial killer and they murder you, that's mostly not your fault. If you make friends with someone you know is a drug dealer, and they ask you to help them kill a rival gang, and you agree, and while helping your drug dealer friend kill his competition you get killed yourself, yes, your death is largely your own fau…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:55 PM
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I'm kind of baffled that this needs to be explained but so be it; By your own logic every shitty thing a person you know has done is now your fault I get the vibe that you're using your emotional response as a substitute for actual logic. Let me see if I can make it bite-sized; ​ If you have a friend [whom you know can't bake, can't wake up on time and can't manage a business] saying they want to open a bakery, you try to dissuade them for it, but they do it anyway and quickly go bankrupt; you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:15 PM
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I don't deny that your complaint is not with 'systemic oppression,' but reality itself. It's a woman's fault she picked a bad man Yes. In the modern age, women have nigh absolute power over which men they choose to have sex with. With absolute power comes absolute responsibility. If women took responsibility for their power, maybe the men who'd be good fathers would start getting more sex. If 99% of men try to be good fathers but the 1% who are shits are the ones having most of the children, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:15 PM
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Assumed competence. That's not a legal right it's a behavioral pattern that mysteriously emerges through experience Less fiscal and personal responsibility in their children's lives. Masterful self-victimizing twist on "courts overwhelmingly favor women for custody" and "why don't women stop getting impregnated by negligent, selfish men" Sainthood for being a single parent I've heard being a single mother is the hardest job of all, but single fathers are just lazy and need a real job. Can you ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:16 PM
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Glad to hear, may it serve you well fellow traveller
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:54 PM
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Howdy! Complicated question, but an interesting one, and I wanted to procrastinate on my office job for a bit to respond. >Men have created their own version of feminine Right out of the gate, we're treating women as objects. You could easily look at thousands of years of gender norms and think, 'well, clearly populations that adhere to these standards of cultural norms based around reproductive roles, overwhelmingly tend to out-last those that don't,' but instead you look at it and say 'clearly…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:01 PM
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Yo! Just for the point, The thread theme is 'explain the outliers and oddballs,' right? I'm discussing the outliers. I asked before if 8 was young enough. That, if the first time someone had sex they were 8, would it be enough of an outlier if they grew into healthy functional adults. Or are you defending the chance that most people who first have sex at 8 grow up fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:40 PM
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As a matter of statistical reality, it is objectively astronomical that two individuals would have the exactly equal blood alcohol level, but how equal would it need to be? Tenth of a percent? If a man has BAC 0.097 and the woman has 0.099, are they equally drunk? I'm not a big time party-goer, but I doubt I've ever been much more than legally drunk. On my 21st birthday party (postponed several months so I could go back home from school to be with friends) I got maybe 0.12, maybe. Brock Turnery'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:31 PM
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>2 teenagers having sex is normal THERE's where the disconnect is happening. I grew up in a really feminist household complete with an abusive older sister i.e. was taught it's forbidden to hurt women at all, but women can hurt you for fun and it's whatever. Sublimated my hypervigilance into ensuring rigid boundaries to hold myself back from doing anything that feminism says not to do. Had more than a few opportunities that I missed for teenage sex, all because it would have been a compromise on…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:50 PM
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I don't identify with blackpill and don't defend them, but you asked for something and I happened to have a set of about 200 research cases available, direct from the source of people using science to back their views. I advise you read on the definition of an 'ad hominem fallacy.' Especially if you're gonna swing from "what science does [x] use to justify their beliefs" to "LOL this was written by [x], whatever". I get how it's emotionally convenient for you but nobody will make progress with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:22 PM
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You asked for example, I happened to have a ready list of about 200 examples, of which you dismissed a single one. Note; I do not identify with the black pill movement and don't defend them, but just from this one, single example; their side is providing about 200 researched examples (of whatever quality) and your big rebuttal amounts to your own emotional response of mockery. What conclusion would someone draw from an objective assessment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:18 PM
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even the 5’4 balding Indian janitor can find a wife, have children, and lead a fulfilling and happy life if you meet the wives of balding Indian janitors, you'll find his relationship is largely coasting on the momentum of thousands of years of cultural precedent of women being obliged to exclusive relationships with assigned partners. Once that grinds to a halt, what then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:18 PM
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https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific\_Blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 07:16 PM
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I honestly thought it would get the point across and am amazed how far this derailed. I underestimated Reddit's passion to defend underage sex, but that's my own fault. How about this; Under the age of 12. Is that low enough? How about 8? What would be young enough for you that, if that person grow into a happy, functional adult, would be enough of an outlier that it would prove the mistake of using the outlier to represent the majority? One of us is overthinking this, and I hope it's me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:03 PM
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Fine, there are people younger than the regional age of consent who had sex with people legally too old to consent to, that turn out fine. Satisfied?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:43 PM
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Dude Canada says it's okay to have sex with your dog, I wouldn't be citing them as a moral authority for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:41 PM
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Why not? Two adults choose to get drunk and choose to have sex, one of them sure as hell is a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 10:32 PM
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Interesting, still feels wrong to say 'getting statutory raped is totally normal' imho
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:35 PM
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Both angles have some substance. On the one hand, from a scientific perspective the outliers are the most important results. Dismissing outliers is thoroughly ignorant when they can be what teaches you the gaps in your reasoning, they should be embraced and learned from. On the other hand; you can find cases of people who play the powerball lottery and win, people who do heroin and become famous musicians, people who do meth and become legends in mathematics, and people who have sex before the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 01:29 PM
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"men with low N counts inherently bad. Men with high N counts inherently good." Pity you can't process the role you play in the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:02 AM
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Fair enough, I know that it's a very apples-to-oranges comparison, and hugely depends on context of the people we're talking about. e.g., there are men who fantasize about their SO cheating on them, and there are women who fantasize about getting gang-raped. It's a sticky, nuanced subject I'd avoid if I weren't anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:01 PM
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They can’t stand the thought of having to compete with 6’3”Chad with the 9 inch dick who blew her back out in the Walmart parking lot when she was 19. Most men know they can’t compete with that and it causes insecurity. Right, why isn't this a valid stance? I want to get married to a woman who will be happy with me. If she's had 100 partners, I could be better at X than 90% of the men she's been with, that's still 10 men she's thinking of when I'm trying to make her happy with X. Why would I fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:58 PM
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Valid question, think of it like this; Take a man. Make him emotionally bond to a woman who isn't emotionally bonded to him. He wants to be a good husband, and a good father to his children. He works hard, he sacrifices, he gives up opportunities, gives up his life dreams, but it's all worth it because all his work and sacrifice is to give love to someone he assumes reciprocates. He does this for 18 years. Labor, stress, money, giving up dreams, emotional labor, the whole 9 yards, and does it wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:45 PM
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Shoot, I wish I was a faster reader! My 'to-read' backlog is already as long as my arm, thank goodness for audiobooks!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:01 PM
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Duly noted, Heinlein is an absolute GOAT but I've not heard of the others. I'll make a point of expanding some horizons, thanks for the lead!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:54 PM
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I never even thought of the male-sided influence of the equation, but yeah it's a paradox. I've read studies on sexuality about a guy choosing to hang out with his gf instead of his bros and his bros rip on him for 'being a f***ot'. Humans are primates and the harder I look the more obvious it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:49 PM
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While that's objectively true, they're far, FAR outnumbered by women who WANT to be cat-called, women who find abusive behavior attractive, and men with bad intentions who put effort into building a skill set of pretending to be the men you're describing. I want the world to have more men like you're describing, but the fastest way I can picture it happening is a hard reboot of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:47 PM
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>They’re cheerful and constantly happy and laid back. a status that's 99% unachievable for nearly anyone who's heart-on-their-sleeve honest, but 100% achievable for someone who developed a skill set at faking a persona. That's where problems really start to arise. If I'm not happy and cheerful 100% of the time I need to choose between getting good at misrepresenting myself, or just accept being a NGFL waste of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:03 AM
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Hey those are really good, I like your wavelength
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:32 PM
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It makes me sad that 'needing an emotional connection for sex' counts as an issue in our wasteland of a culture. >some men say women who aren't open to casual are not worth it Right, I'd like a culture that shames those men and frames them as unworthy of a woman's touch. >people who aren't into casual are only less attractive to people who are Logically sound, but there's a point getting circumlocuted; what someone is 'into' changes over time. Which isn't bad undo itself, but it's a shitty deal …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:28 PM
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Har har, I've been a curmudgeon since childhood, I'm excited/terrified to reach a point of accumulating experience where I can see the patterns of history repeating itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:51 PM
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too much soup out of too few onions first time I've heard this but I like the expression >I neither argued against this nor disagree with it My mistake, I have a hard enough time reading people even when it's in person lol >common arguments of your BP audience I honestly thought we were arguing, I apologize for misreading the whole exchange >RPW and LTR-oriented men because it's very hard for each to find the other Shit there's a dating site I'd sign up for >spinster in training we need to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:10 PM
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I hadn't even considered that- never concerned me personally but it would have to be an influence, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:53 PM
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I applaud your efforts and hope you can be a role model for future generations. Please reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:49 PM
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That's cool to hear about, I don't appreciate how much of my perspective is warped by sampling bias and over-weighing the loudest sources of info, it gives me a lot of hope that there's an unspoken majority of people like your social circle. I wanna believe! For the whole second part; it's more and more blatant to me that men and women live in very different worlds. I can't even tap into this mode of thought, like, are there really people who operate like that? 'why would a guy want to be with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:33 PM
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I appreciate your input but it's killing me that you're not seeing the weight of the core matter; typical women spend their prime years only looking for casual sex partners, and only resort to 'settle down' after the casual sex guys stop responding to them. Make a fictional universe in your head, with 2 main characters, each with a desire and an expectation. Dude A expects women to be sex objects, and only wants to get laid. Dude B sees women as human beings and equals, and wants to have sex in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 07:17 PM
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Therein is the issue. From what I've seen irl, the 'normal' for women is to want casual sex until they're ready to 'settle down,' usually after lots of casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:59 PM
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Lots of good responses here, one angle worth discussing; Not being interested in casual sex makes men unattractive. I've spent my life wanting a committed, meaningful, long-term relationship leading to marriage and children. Like, even as a teenager. I might not fit your definition of 'very attractive,' but I've lost track of the number of times I've gotten the advice "dude what are you doing? If you don't shut up about wanting a family, no woman will ever date you." Combine that with the patter…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:34 PM
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Was that last quote from Asimov's 'Foundation'? You absolute Chad!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 09:52 PM
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Yes, entirely. As you would expect when our primate mating strategy of millions of years gets crammed into a civilized you-gotta-wear-pants society. I'd much rather have the behavior condemned and prevented, but that's not possible with liberated women. If a man cat-calls a thousand times and gets sex once, those thousand times were worth it. Telling men to 'don't be sexually aggressive in public, act K-selective' is something the patriarchy does. Telling men 'be aggressive, be bold, be daring, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:31 PM
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I’m not sure we get to let men off the hook for being negligent bastards Dude if you run for political office on the platform that men like this get punished enough that it's not worth the sex, reproduction, and lack of investment, I WILL VOTE FOR YOU. Not all women Right, that's my issue. Some men abandon their families, the conversation goes straight to "gah MEN ARE AWFUL." Some women live in a way that is very, very rewarding for the worst of men, and the conversation is "well not all women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 08:31 PM
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Jesus I didn't even know there was a 10k character limit, sorry I'm writing so much! >why can’t we even be bothered to show up for our children? Why can't women even be bothered to 'control themselves' (y'know, like men have to? As equals?) and NOT get impregnated by negligent bastards? The 1% fucks and chucks and is a total biological success, the 99% get squawking lectures from the women who chose the 1% "Why can't you men even be bothered to show up for your children?!?!" judging all men by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:32 PM
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I would not have guessed you're not a native English speaker and I hope you're impressed with myself, I'd be really happy if I could speak a second language that well... I like the take on self-love and would love to see that taken as a more mainstream practice. My big gripe about it here is, if I [living my life around what women want] compromise a woman's self-love, I need to change and correct myself, but if a woman [to whom, by upbringing, I've given considerable control over my sense of sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 03:31 PM
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My apologies, I'm way too into acronyms; -QED; Quod Est Dictum, a Latin phrase from rhetorical schools, basically a fancy way of saying 'as thus stated.' -AFAIK; As Far As I Know. Fun English You're right about self-love, but that just makes it more frustrating; I need to juggle 'I love myself unconditionally' with 'the one thing I truly want in life is denied to me, and it's my fault because exclusion from the gene pool proves I'm a shitty person.' Imagine if I said to you, "you're a worthless,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 08:33 PM
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>One could argue everyone is a caricature of some sort. They could, but I don't. I just admire and appreciate ^___^ >Well something has got to be shitty about you if you’re excluded from a gene pool. And here we find the center of the hedge maze. 'you're excluded from the gene pool, ergo you're shitty QED' flows naturally from 'women don't have sex with you, ergo you're shitty QED.' I was raised in a feminist household where gender equality was the water we swam in. My right to love myself was C…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 06:11 PM
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>This post is a bit yikes LOL, sir you are a caricature. If this is parody you have my admiration. >we aren’t making as many babies That's what demographic collapse looks like. But hey, the least educated, highest-risk, most-likely-to-be-abusive-and-negligent families are the ones doing the most reproducing! What could go wrong? >Men bailing on their kids is a huge reason why mfs aren’t having kids anymore I feel like that sounded like a good point before you typed it out, but you didn't really …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:13 PM
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Counterpoint; if letting women choose their own partners isn't a terrible idea, why is being such a shitty shitty shitty bail-on-your-kids man becoming such a valid reproductive strategy? But really, I'm looking at this from a biology background. In a very real sense, successfully reproducing is the only real victory that matters in life. We're living in a world where being a colossal turd of a man who is exactly what men should NOT be, are the success stories. -t. grew up wanting more than anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 04:52 PM
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Quality story but MAN this guy "doesn't know" how to "use quotation" marks.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre29/01/22 03:15 PM
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​ >that little dude inside me died. >that little dude inside me died. Man why you gotta attack me like this? Armor piercing rounds outta NOWHERE. I know exactly the feeling you're talking about. Like someone you'd always been, someone you'd always counted on yourself being, was gone forever. I had it in the easiest, safest, comfiest conditions I could hope for, I can't even imagine the agony of a decades long happy marriage getting poisoned to death. I'm sorry I can't take the pain off ya, but I…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre02/07/21 09:30 PM
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that's very concise and helpful, thanks
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 06:20 AM
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hamster hamster hamster. ...unfamiliar, please explain?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/20 05:13 PM
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What's the problem? He never signed a contract for a romantic relationship. Just pay back all the money he spent on school fees (plus interest) and y'all can get right back to respecting each others as non-romantic equals. Besides, y'know, him not being 'in your class,' just a lower-class guy who'd take what little money he has and spend it on supporting a teen orphan without asking anything in return.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/05/20 05:12 PM
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>confidence and sexual maturity ...those're really the biggest things they found that could be the problem? EDIT: I got banned from a women-only feminist sub for posting this. It was a women's-only sub, so I'd never actually posted anything since that was one of the sub rules, but for weeks I'd been reading and giving awards, trying to be positive and supportive. After posting this, I tried to give an award and found I can't, because I had been banned, because I posted something on this sub. Mak…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/20 07:47 PM
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Are you pro-choice? Think of how offensive some people find it to murder a baby to be able to keep sleeping around. Are you pro-gay rights? Think of how offensive it is to people trying to protect their children from such sinful degeneracy. Do you think women should be allowed to learn to read? There are literally millions of people who are so offended by that, that they think you deserve to die to protect the sanctity of their wives. I'm in favor of not hurting anyone's feelings, and not trying…
/r/MensRights09/05/14 12:22 AM
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THAT may be the most sensible thing I've heard from you yet! An invitation to challenge your own beliefs is a noble goal, and I commend you for it! Hold on a second… http://www.skepticink.com/gps/2014/04/18/can-one-get-ptsd-via-twitter/ A clinical psychologist says you can get PTSD from twitter, but emphasizes that you need a very forgiving definition of it, e.g. I could claim to have PTSD from this conversation (which brings us to why this is on /r/mensrights- selective sympathy. If I or ANY ma…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 11:35 PM
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Rape through CoD is ENTIRELY comparable (not the same) to PTSD through twitter; an egregious misrepresentation of trauma through hyperbolic self-pity. Claiming that someone can not be a man without a Y chromosome (as you did) is at the same level of 9/11 truthers with basis in fact and conventional knowledge. Fact and conventional knowledge which I'm still waiting for you to provide. Saying someone who is physically and genetically male is a female because they got some surgery and 'feel like th…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 08:52 PM
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any forum of those who know what they're talking about you say, as if you have ANY idea what anyone outside your echo chamber has studied, but go ahead. Good job equating people who think having a penis makes you a man to being a 9/11 truther. Feel free to drop your credentials anytime. Also, [citation needed] You'll notice I never called myself an MRA, and never have. I think the community is trash, but the issues are worth following, like how I read Nat. Geo. without being an anthropologist. N…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 03:07 AM
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trans-ignorance You want conventional knowledge? You want a medical degree? In May I'll have a masters in biotech, and I can tell you right now anyone who says that cross-dressing to feel like a pretty flower is more relevant than the genome defining every cell in one's body is blowing smoke out their ass. What's your expertise, that you dismiss the doubts of a trained biologist? Or does 'years of training' suddenly mean nothing now that they don't reinforce your decided worldview? I often prote…
/r/MensRights27/04/14 12:49 AM
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Her PTSD is NOT as bad, and it is NOT worth being diagnosed. If she was sent link after link of scat porn, snuff, torture threats, furry bondage and animals being killed, she has every right to be disgusted, furious, and offended. Claiming she endured a sustained physiological response to being in real physical danger is absurd, and perpetuates the hateful stereotype that women are weak and unequipped to face reality, which I do NOT agree with. Yes, I think a doctor who diagnoses PTSD for hate-t…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 11:21 PM
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Could you be any more full of yourself? Being an activist of itself doesn't prove you deserve support- there are plenty of activists supporting idiotic causes. Holding this woman a representative of PTSD victims is disgusting and infuriating. There are literally thousands of people, men and women, who were actually traumatized, and this woman is insulting them and degrading the legitimacy of the diagnosis to attention whore over getting mean tweets. It's like calling yourself ADHD for being fidg…
/r/MensRights26/04/14 08:12 PM
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Going to twitter to start arguments about atheism and gender roles and not expect trolls is like a child touching a stove and expecting it to be cold- you make the mistake, then you know better. Crying 'victim blaming' is a pretty piss-weak excuse for being that misinformed- she's a victim of an argument she started herself, on a medium famous for flame wars and shitposting. Also, twitter insults='people abused you!' Gad. I wonder why you aren't taken seriously.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 03:54 PM
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One of the reasons MR is such a shitty community is that it doesn't discriminate, anyone who wants to address certain issues can join. Even if 99% of posters are perfect gentlemen (they're not), enough douchebags get in to ruin it. If you start a twitter account for the purpose of being politically controversial while 'believing people could be polite on the internet,' you are a naive, misguided child who has earned a painful life lesson.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 01:05 PM
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yes, I'm agreeing with that. that's why I posted.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 01:01 PM
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hahahahaha, you're just now realizing this? Welcome to the web! Polite on the internet, HA!
/r/MensRights26/04/14 02:54 AM
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I think you just proved his point. A man and a woman ride in a car and get into a wreck. She talks to a therapist about how traumatic it was, he knows his friends will call him a faggot unless he laughs it off. Nothing inherent about gender differences, but indicative of the cultural expectations impressed on people.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 02:51 AM
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Wsg22 is most likely a troll, as they make a claim then commit multiple logical fallacies to avoid backing it up. "I can prove Lincoln was gay, I just need him to show up, otherwise we all know I'm right!" Jackass.
/r/MensRights20/04/14 05:02 PM
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Brightens my day to see someone actually doing something proactive that might make some kind of lasting difference.
/r/MensRights18/04/14 11:33 PM
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Most here know better than to expect you to be able to defend your beliefs. Just keep yelling 'stupid' without offering an argument.
/r/MensRights31/03/14 01:07 PM
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You're obviously very selective in your beliefs, but it's hard to respect a person who does this. Using proxy genitalia like flashlights or dildos (diodes?) as a function of sex drive makes sense… fetishizing a totem of a penis with the mystical powers you presume it gives men to emit oppression-rays lies between silly and mentally unhealthy.
/r/MensRights31/03/14 01:05 PM
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How to deal with problem honestly? I want to deal with problem.
/r/MensRights21/03/14 09:47 PM
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um… I actually do want to end rape in the military. Am I not welcome here?
/r/MensRights21/03/14 01:47 PM
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Seconded. For having such an admirable cause, the Mens Rights Movement has one of the worst communities on Reddit (in general). Keep in mind that AMR is a small cabal of inept trolls (I WILL generalize here), whom most feminists wouldn't identify with.
/r/MensRights15/03/14 03:13 PM
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I completely sympathize with your conclusions, but so long as I have testicles, nihilism will never be good enough for me.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 06:51 PM
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So I should hate my parents for teaching me not to lie? I should hate the people who raised me for teaching me to seek equality and respect in a mate, because it's their fault people like Tucker and you fuck over everyone? I'm supposed to admire people who poison the well by treating women like shit and giving women every reason to distrust and hate men, so that manipulative shitsacks are the only ones who have a chance of thwarting their defenses and then say "hey it's the woman's choice, it's …
/r/MensRights24/02/14 06:47 PM
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I've browsed MR for a while and I don't think I've ever seen a post fitting this description, even once. Wait, did I just feed the trolls? Curses! You win again, feminism!
/r/MensRights24/02/14 12:56 PM
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I spent my life trying to treat women as human beings that I should serve and protect, and for that got the sex life of a Benedictine monk. Men who get all the sex they can handle by being shitty, shitty human beings hold a special place of hate in my heart.
/r/MensRights24/02/14 03:55 AM
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Tucker Max is a selfish malcontent sack of putrid ratshit. If society wants me to be like him society can burn to the ground. I'd rather die alone in a gutter than be anything like that turd-flinging brat.
/r/MensRights23/02/14 11:02 PM
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8P
/r/MensRights22/02/14 03:29 AM
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Oh for sweet fucking- once again, neither A nor B. I've looked at every comment in this thread, and the only one you've made that isn't a variant of "it's not my job to educate you" is; <The point of the article is stop giving out ridiculous advice and focus on the people that rape (ask long as they are men, women get a free pass). To put it into housebreaking terms - stop teaching people to block up their chimneys, booby trap their house and never leave it and other ridiculous things and focus …
/r/MensRights21/02/14 07:26 PM
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You're like a broken record. I keep saying, 'tell me what it's about' and you keep saying 'I don't need to tell you what it's about, but you're wrong.' Your last post was neither (A) nor (B), so the only reasonable conclusion I can pull from this is that you cannot defend your stance with any logical argument. You are an internet activist. You are supposed to know what discussions are about. If you have decided not to know what discussions are about, and claim its about me being wrong for not kn…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 06:17 PM
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ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!
/r/MensRights21/02/14 05:00 PM
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So… nothing. I invite you to make a claim, address my claims, make a point, defend your stance, do anything at all whatsoever to back up your opposition to any of the wall of text I've composed, and you have nothing to say. If I haven't confronted men with reasonable arguments, it should be SO SO EASY for you to point out WHY they aren't reasonable, and/or propose a more reasonable argument. I'm not pretending I don't understand the video, I think the video is patently absurd. Now, either I'm ri…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:57 PM
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I AM looking for critical debate, that's the glory of free discourse on the internet! It's a great way to further the dialogue of an issue, by letting people interact! Now, there's a line of reasoning that suggests all disagreement is the result of misunderstanding, or of unequal information. This video, with its 'rape is horrible but women shouldn't do anything to protect themselves' message is a perfect MRA strawman- if I had a goal of mocking feminist doctrine, I couldn't come up with somethi…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:47 PM
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Holy hell, really? "It's not my job to educate you?" I confront you with reasoned arguments about WHY this article is absurd, and the most you can do to defend it is saying 'either you agree or you're wrong, go and find out what it means until you agree with me.' Here's some friendly advice; when people confront flaws in feminist doctrine, if you actually have a passable reason why it's not a flaw, don't tell men to educate themselves. Half of the resources out there oppose your stance, and half…
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:39 PM
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'its about what its about'? Really? I come to you with an honest plea to clarify how my understanding is wrong, which should be SO EASY if you have ANY reasoning behind it, and THIS is the leg you stand on? If you're not trolling, do your cause a favor and read up on critical debate.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:13 AM
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I agree. It is absurd, too absurd to be true, which is why I'd like you to explain what they ARE saying. That no one is making the argument that all ways to reduce risk should be dismissed, or that women without lists of instructions don't have the intelligence to comprehend risk and safety, goes without saying, which makes me wonder why you're saying it. I'm still waiting for you to explain what they ARE saying.
/r/MensRights21/02/14 04:06 AM
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Know-it-alls pulling tips out of their ass is ridiculous and counter-productive, that's a fact. I think some of this advice is worth due consideration before being dismissed. I don't know about the stuff in the article, but I've heard of instructions coming from police who have noticed common elements after working rape cases for years. Some of the advice comes from actual, honest-to-God serial rapists who tell investigators HOW THEY TARGET WOMEN AND WHAT THEY LOOK FOR IN A VICTIM. It seems foll…
/r/MensRights20/02/14 11:18 PM
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I'm trying really hard to be sympathetic to your point of view (because, doubt though you might, I actually do want to be an ally and learn how I can help solve problems) but sweet Jesus you're making it hard to respect you.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 11:12 PM
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THAT's the case you're making? I point out the obvious flaws with the article's argument and the best justification you have is "oh well you clearly don't understand," followed by nothing. I'M ASKING FOR AN EXPLANATION. YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN THIS ARGUMENT, YOU JUST HAVE TO TELL ME WHY I'M NOT RIGHT. Wait, why do I bother? You probably won't respond, and you'll probably sulk back to tumblr or something and brag about how wrong you totally proved me. Heaven forbid you try to be an adult.
/r/MensRights20/02/14 11:09 PM
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I've read the article and watched the video. I've typed out a wall of text deciphering what I'm seeing; indignant feminists clamoring in umbrage that preventative measures (that would work about as well to deter murder and kidnapping) are 'victim blaming' by implying women have some small control of the situation. I don't understand why the only kosher rape prevention is to hold all men accountable for a rapist minority (which is probably less effective than short hair and walking in groups), ju…
/r/MensRights20/02/14 10:47 PM
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enlighten me. What are they making an argument for?
/r/MensRights20/02/14 10:00 PM
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I hadn't watched the video. I have now, and I'm even less sure what the point is. They're just repeating advice on avoiding rape in a condescending tone. There's no denying bad things happen to good people- serial killers, school shootings, bombings, muggings- even if they haven't done anything wrong. Some of the highest sex assault rates are in countries where modest dress for women is legally enforced. I always understood the purpose of feminism is to empower women, to give them agency over th…
/r/MensRights20/02/14 07:43 PM
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enlighten me, please
/r/MensRights20/02/14 05:19 PM
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Oh man, totally! People should be able to bike without fear of getting hit, and walk to the store without fear of getting raped. If there are drivers who intentionally try to run people over, those people should be found, targeted, have their licenses suspended and never allowed to drive again (castrate rapists then set them on fire). What I'd posit is that hitting a bike because you swerved intentionally into the bike lane isn't the same crime as hitting a bike because the cyclist tried to cros…
/r/MensRights20/02/14 03:35 PM
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I'm not sure I understood that sentence, but why does feminism seem obsessed with gaining power, while avoiding responsibility? I'm a man, and I'd never rape anyone, so short of taking on a very non-feminist stance of being responsible for protecting women from getting raped on the street (I totally would protect them, but it's not very feminist to do so), I'm pretty powerless to prevent rape. If there are things that people can do to protect themselves from injury, why not do that? I bike a lot…
/r/MensRights20/02/14 03:16 PM
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