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I have so many women tell me that they've never been cold approached. That's a good sign imo because it separates me from the normal reserved dude. Very little competition is good for the lone wolves like myself who has approached 15k+ to date.
/r/seduction10/03/26 09:23 PM
1

You typically want to save the kissing/sex for a second or third date, preferably second. If you do it on the first date you better guarantee it's going to go through to home base but I don't advise it because a lot times it leads to buyers remorse. I always advise a second date strategy where the first date is primarily to break the ice and Kino escalate.
/r/seduction10/03/26 07:51 PM
2

I applaud that man. It's exactly what I preach and do myself. Although I don't ask if you're married. I just ask if your single. You are your most attractive as a man when you're forward and unregulated (no rehearsed "lines")
/r/seduction10/03/26 04:12 PM
2

30-50 approaches per day 4x a week minimum for real cold approach practitionership.
/r/seduction09/03/26 07:26 PM
1

Quite common. Negative Macro state
/r/seduction09/03/26 11:57 AM
0

That's why for cold approach you will always end up attracting a subset of women in accordance to your style/personality/vibe.
/r/seduction04/03/26 09:06 PM
-8

Very well said in the last couple of paragraphs, but we have to end the erroneous idea of germ theoryand moreover the idea of contagion as is relates to "sexual transmission". It's laughable once you learn about it's vacuousness. There is, and never has been, any genuine scientific evidence that any ‘germ’ is the cause of any disease, including those claimed to be transmitted sexually.
/r/seduction03/03/26 09:45 PM
1

I've attracted every type/race in my experience from just sheer volume of cold approach. There's no pattern unless you are very selective and don't do high volume. Also you have to live in a heterogeneous city to make this assessment.
/r/seduction03/03/26 01:14 PM
1

Talk too much, say the wrong thing to disqualify themselves, make it super long, doesn't kino a little,
/r/seduction03/03/26 12:32 PM
1

"15 approaches" & "rarely happens to me" is where you should improve and not worry about hypotheticals. If you get to 1000 approaches you will have a better sample size/understanding of how rejection is the norm and you have to embrace it. For someone who hasn't approached at your focusing on the wrong things. You should be asking how often do you get rejected, now that's where it's at.
/r/seduction02/03/26 02:16 PM
1

Doesn't matter what they say. I had girls together that looked apparently young said they both have husbands. Other women said they're lesbians.. they will come up with anything on the spot you can tell by their body anguage. It's a polite way for them to say no. Just move on and find women that reciprocate your interest, even if it's neutral.
/r/seduction24/02/26 12:47 PM
3

When it comes to cold approach it doesn't matter too much what you say, if it comes off robotic, or if it's simplistic. The #1 factor is how confident you come off verbally/body language and deregulated (no scripts and authentic/forward). You will end up realizing this at the 2000-5000 mark, from my experience. Women don't remember or care about the initial interaction as much as one might believe. Being pushy is also essential for pulling on insta-dates and your willingness to ask 5-10 times fo…
/r/seduction24/02/26 03:51 AM
13

Well said. It's what I preach. Anybody can hide behind a screen, take good pics, and "text" rehearsed lines. Get out there and cold approach 1000 women and see your dating life skyrocket.
/r/seduction24/02/26 12:29 AM
3

Don't be a provider and do a date that doesn't involve spending money shell either acquiesce or move on. Gotta have a strong frame.
/r/seduction19/02/26 11:54 PM
0

Roughly 400 approaches. Insta dates are as real as actual dates and lead more often to sex. You're most likely to sleep with a woman the day you meet her due to her micro/macro state. Id say 10 planned and 5 insta.
/r/seduction18/02/26 05:33 PM
-1

Familiarity... men don't go out and cold approach, dating apps are not effective for the majority of men. And social circle game is limited to a certain amount of women within the confines of that group. With cold approach I've personally had 15 dates in one month. Dating women from work is very beta and if you have to resort to dipping the pen in the companies ink, there's some inadequacies there as it relates to dating/social prowess.
/r/seduction18/02/26 02:01 PM
3

Great! If she says no, you move on. Any scripted lines or means of avoiding rejection is too regulated and you will be your most attractive to a woman when you are fully deregulated, forward, and authentic. You will attract a subset of women if the "her type" aligns with you. Gimmicky seduction is for people who don't embrace rejection and no that is the default for most girls you will approach. Do some chicks like the playerish, heavily scripted shit, sure but another subset will like the more …
/r/seduction17/02/26 03:01 PM
9

Scarcity mindset. Meet women everywhere but where you collect a paycheck.
/r/seduction17/02/26 12:58 PM
8

Hey I know you're working but I really think you're attractive. My name is... Go from there. If she is single ask her out. If not, her loss and you keep it strictly customer friendly going forward. You don't owe anybody anything and she doesn't owe you her time/number, but it could possibly turn out well if you just try. The worse feeling in cold approach (early stages) after personally doing thousands of approaches is "what if/what could have been". Ohh and life is too short to look for signals…
/r/seduction17/02/26 03:20 AM
1

Don't, just text to setup dates. Get good at communicating and kino
/r/seduction16/02/26 09:52 PM
2

Food on first date is the first mistake. Save the kiss for a second date lay but you must initiate touch and some slight kino on a first date. Preferably bar/coffee shop where you can sit right next to her.
/r/seduction16/02/26 08:44 PM
1

I follow a 2nd date lay approach where I invite her to my place either directly or shortly after meeting out at a bar.
/r/seduction15/02/26 05:12 AM
1

I think the absence of IODs is a given. But again I've had girls be quite dismissive and still got contacts and when on to dates/lays.
/r/seduction14/02/26 10:55 PM
1

In no circumstances should you reduce overall approach volume based on an erroneous idea that you know which certain demographic of girls will be more likely to reject you. Ha! I wish I knew that based on my 15k approaches. Any means of avoiding rejection is not the way. There's no odds in your favor unless you do very picky low volume day game in which I heavily oppose and preach the opposite.
/r/seduction14/02/26 10:54 PM
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You will always need to do high volume for even the best looking with solid game. This is especially true if you want multiple plates and live a non monogamous lifestyle.
/r/seduction14/02/26 10:15 PM
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It's a numbers game in a sense that the primary/default outcome will be rejection and If you avoid it by calibration and only approach select few that give signals than that's not really high volume cold approach.
/r/seduction14/02/26 10:13 PM
1

Her reaction/feeling on the surface is not a good representation of whether she will go on a date after getting the number. I've had very neutral and shy responses go on to be great flings with amazing sex.
/r/seduction14/02/26 10:11 PM
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Gotcha. Girls will be interested in you. You just haven't met enough (sample size) to have a good viewpoint on it.
/r/seduction13/02/26 08:09 PM
3

If it's touristy you won't meet anyone local. So id approach as many ppl as I can and it's ok if you're known as the "approach guy". Otherwise move to somewhere more populated
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:44 PM
2

Are you looking for a mongomous partner or multiple plates?
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:37 PM
1

Yeah depends where you live my friend. If you're in a small rural town you won't have the success due to lack of "foot traffic".
/r/seduction13/02/26 07:16 PM
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Just need to cold approach 1000 women and see the dating part of your life change for the better. You naturally align with a subset of women. 1000 is a starting point.
/r/seduction13/02/26 06:47 PM
1

If I had a height disadvantage and that young I would be outworking all my buddies (high volume cold approach) like it's nobody's business
/r/seduction12/02/26 04:35 PM
1

Acting robotic versus smooth and suave on the approach ultimately means nothing when it comes to getting girls to convert into dates. As I’ve said before, a man is at his most attractive when he’s fully deregulated and natural. What I’m reinforcing, constantly, is that high approach volume and embracing rejection are the true foundation for maximizing results. A lot of guys mistakenly believe that low volume with a high “conversion rate” is the mark of an advanced PUA. It’s not. Selectively appr…
/r/seduction12/02/26 01:25 PM
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Please elaborate
/r/seduction12/02/26 01:13 PM
3

Looks like you're just starting off and complaining about a one out of six conversion. That rate is laughable though. If you ever do thousands of approaches, you'll see that's not the case and most are going to be rejections. Charisma is gained as a consequence of interacting with lots of women, I believe it's developed your youth and adolescence as well. Use texting as a means of setting updates not to build rapport.
/r/seduction12/02/26 12:56 PM
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That would be a great challenge actually. See how many dates you can acquire in 2-3 weeks. Just push for instadates. Will teach you a lot about social dynamics and womens micro/macro states.
/r/seduction10/02/26 07:50 PM
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Move to a city with 5 million+ ppl in heavy foot traffic you should approach in high volume (50+ approaches per week minimum). Looks aren't as important as you think, the confidence/audacious-ness just needs to be a tad bit higher if your looks are average.
/r/seduction10/02/26 07:29 PM
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Move on and find women who are single, you shouldn't invest time with a closed relationship or have any inclination for intrusion. She may have reached that boredom stage as many women do but do the right thing and keep your hands to yourself.
/r/seduction10/02/26 05:51 PM
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Ask her what her intentions are and if she is willing to go on a date with you on the basis that her relationship with her bf isn't serious or not exclusive or phasing/phased out
/r/seduction10/02/26 05:01 PM
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Approach 1000+ women, work on frame, body language, and conversational skills. Be outcome independent, non needy, very forward, and don't change behavior for shit tests while also balancing it out with politeness/charm.
/r/seduction10/02/26 03:55 PM
1

You have to have strong and forward frame and not waste time on women that have to need a deep level of "courting" before you have access to sex. Avoid sexually suppressed women and focus on ones who know what they want from the get go and don't want anything from you besides your intellect and intimacy.
/r/seduction10/02/26 03:50 PM
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Lots of older women will flake a consequence of having more time being exposed by societies bullshit programming, making women older than 33 a tougher road to navigate. I have most success with women older than 33 when they reciprocate having sex very early on (1st date indicators). Many will be disqualified by sheer virtue of being prude to the fullest extent (typically high earning tomboyish women).
/r/seduction10/02/26 03:16 PM
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Sexual suppression and sex shaming aren’t the same. Suppression is about control and limiting what people can do or desire. Sex shaming is about judgment and making people feel less than for their sexuality. One restricts behavior while the other attacks worth.
/r/seduction07/02/26 03:07 PM
1

Yeah I completely agree. I've noticed it depends on the girls state and your frame/ how you manage the relationship... Form my POV after 15k approaches
/r/seduction06/02/26 08:49 PM
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Same day lay is easier by definition keeping a girl by establishing a relationship is harder due to high flake post number acquisition and or ONS.
/r/seduction06/02/26 08:48 PM
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Again the excessiveness is purely subjective. For most people? Definitely. Flaking is the norm and hence why I urge for high numbers game to inevitably get moments of positive outcomes. (Approach > number > long term dating).
/r/seduction06/02/26 06:29 PM
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Exceptions don't make the rule. I think most men, given the opportunity would be happy to have many women in their life if time for other essential needs are met. This is directly dependent on how much freedom you have. 40 hour work week, lifestyle choices (Diet, exercise, drug use), obligations such as kids/marriage. Given that most of the population don't have time it would be a bit harder to be satisfied/fulfilled with 4-5 lays per month. I surely don't have that issue but my life is non-chao…
/r/seduction06/02/26 06:02 PM
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That doesn't mean someone else wouldn't find that same experience positive. It all comes down to how you want to spend your time, and it appears that this level of love making doesn't suit him. I also spend time with lots of women in a polyamorous structure and enjoy time to the fullest extent with said women... whether it's a friends w benefit or something thats deeper than just intimacy. In either relationship category I enjoy that person being in my life but I do balance it out with friends, …
/r/seduction06/02/26 05:47 PM
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We need to end it because transmission has never been proven via "germs". A strong man doesn’t limit himself to one woman. He enjoys spending time with multiple women because variety makes life more fulfilling Women are plagued with sexual suppression/repression due to society. So if you truly love someone, you will never restrict them from being free and independent, even when it means the freedom for them to intimately spend time with other people. Meaningless sex is a dumb term to shame other…
/r/seduction06/02/26 05:42 PM
-1

We need to end the germ theory/contagion myth and just have sex with relatively healthy people, pregnancy prevention aside.
/r/seduction06/02/26 04:57 PM
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Haha sexual suppression and sex shaming. Double whammy, what an insufferable comment. This guy should be commended for what most men can't do in a lifetime, not even close.
/r/seduction06/02/26 04:55 PM
1

Anywhere there is high foot traffic. Preferably a city with 5 million or more people.
/r/seduction03/02/26 03:49 PM
1

Day game approach at high volume, end of story
/r/seduction03/02/26 02:02 PM
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It is single handedly the most effective way of establishing new relationships with women who you can actually see in real time rather than the sad state of swiping and meeting ppl virtually, albeit it has some positives. In order for it's effectiveness you need to put in a great deal of numbers every week and be consistent otherwise neediness and entitlement start creeping in quick.
/r/seduction02/02/26 07:17 PM
1

Now this is the definition of sexual suppression. Been waiting to find a post like this. Most men don't know how to cold approach with respect and confidence so I can see why women definitely have a guard up. But it doesn't refute or override the thousands of positive reactions that I have received whether it was a rejection, number exchange, or even a relationship.
/r/seduction02/02/26 07:15 PM
5

You approach as many women as you can through day game with ultimate confidence and treat them/approach them like a normal human being and you'll be surprised with the outcomes. I've dated very attractive women based on this mindset
/r/seduction01/02/26 01:53 AM
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They are promoting & selling a gimmicky/avoiding rejection type game. It's for the birds. Approach many women and you will find a subset who are going to go on to sleep with you.
/r/seduction29/01/26 11:54 PM
8

1/10 is only if you approach 10 girls a year and are very selective by getting IOIs and have a degree of warm approach with pre-selection. 90% is laughable not even the most elite dude will close even 10% if they do high volume cold approach (day game). It's a numbers game and high rejection is a necessary prerequisite.
/r/seduction29/01/26 11:40 PM
-2

Never kiss on the first date unless you're certain it will turn into sex, happens infrequently. I'd save the kiss for the second date that includes sexual escalation (push for sex after inviting her over) A little kino on the first date is the precursor for this.
/r/seduction28/01/26 01:30 AM
2

Man all the logistics here is poor
/r/seduction27/01/26 10:01 PM
1

You need to be maximally forward with his girl. If she doesn't want to have sex with you next time then I'd move on but you have to be very socially calibrated with bedroom game. Good luck brother
/r/seduction25/01/26 01:42 AM
3

Aka you care about rejection when you should be embracing it
/r/seduction24/01/26 12:20 AM
1

Cooked. Enjoy missing out on sexual opportunities. What a terrible mindset
/r/seduction24/01/26 12:19 AM
2

I only approach women I am sexually interested in and do so via sheer numbers game. Daygame is about high volume, for someone who has done 15k + approaches.
/r/seduction21/01/26 04:41 PM
2

Yeah I think I was averaging 6 hours a day 6 days for just that one week. (I typically do 150-200 now) I just wanted to reach that number for shits and giggles. And boy did the contacts pile up. It's only overkill if you don't want 5-10 simultaneous plates
/r/seduction16/01/26 08:31 PM
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Well it's a high traffic pedestrian area and I'm bouncing around like a pinball. You gotta be in a city with at least 10 million ppl to have chances of 50 approaches in a several hour time span.
/r/seduction16/01/26 08:29 PM
7

Now ramp it up to 30-40 a week and you will get farther in the cold approach/dating market than most men on the planet. I've done 300 in a week and it was very insightful.
/r/seduction16/01/26 06:45 PM
1

Text back whenever the fuck you want. Im on my phone a lot for work so it pops up and I usually respond pretty quickly since I primarily text to setup dates and not build rapport or get to know someone (for the most part).
/r/seduction13/01/26 01:31 PM
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Precisely why it's not for everyone. But 5 million makes your chances of running into the same person slim if you do 100+ approaches per week
/r/seduction10/01/26 03:55 PM
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My minimum threshold for the population of a city where I would consider mass approach volume to be viable is 5 million.
/r/seduction09/01/26 09:48 PM
2

Very well said. Beat me to it. Typically men don't want to seem like a "creep" or have stalkerish type approaches. Like you said in the 4 points above, if none of those are fringed upon then going out of your way is perfectly acceptable. I've had girls roll down their windows of their car or have intercepted before they enter or leave a building because the best time to approach is as soon as you see her or you'll risk the possibility of losing the window of opportunity
/r/seduction09/01/26 03:57 PM
1

Their attention seeking and if your profile isn't well calibrated with decent photos and bio then your fucked. Meet women through cold approach as someone suggested above.
/r/seduction04/01/26 03:29 AM
5

Instead of building emotional or conversational connections just approach another 100+ girls until one acquiesces to your personality/vibe. One rejection and you're being over analytical. You could have been more emotionally suave but in most cases still ends up in her not being interested.
/r/seduction02/01/26 04:48 PM
2

I know you're very busy but I wanted to come meet you, exchange names, would love to get to know you more when you have some free time. Hand her something akin to a business card with your number on it that way it stands out and she can reach out if she's genuinely interested. Maintain eye contact, smile and keep it brief, she'll respect that.
/r/seduction02/01/26 02:12 PM
10

If she re-engages like that you need to maximally forward as the initial rejection of "I have a boyfriend" might have been a quick shit test to see if you change behavior/frame. I would have grabbed her contact and set up a date because what she seems like on the surface on the initial approach is not indicative of anything. See if you can initiate again and number close. Best wishes!!
/r/seduction30/12/25 04:42 PM
1

Yeah if you want Disney monogamy. Good luck with that! Ha!
/r/seduction29/12/25 05:04 AM
7

2-3 approaches is nowhere near enough to assess proper high rejection count over a decent span of time. You will need 50-150 approaches per week over a course of 6 months to establish any kind of positive spike of success. You take rejection personally, feel entitled, and don't embrace rejection (no matter how harsh it may be)
/r/seduction28/12/25 11:56 PM
0

Are you kidding me? I've done over 15k in a 7 year time frame. That's why im on here... to preach the power of cold approach not only for your intimate life.
/r/seduction23/12/25 01:10 PM
1

Absolutely not. Never be indirect with your openers. That's a way of obfuscating your intentions and trying to become outcome dependent by avoiding rejection. Just compliment her appearance from the the get go, exchange names, then wing it. You are you're most attractive during a cold approach when you are not regulated with speech and don't use observational/indirect openers.
/r/seduction23/12/25 01:30 AM
3

You haven't approached/met enough women. At the same time you can only realistically target women 18-29 or so since you're 23, and the Gen Z crowd is tough to navigate esp. going into 2026. Takes a whole set of skills and sheer numbers game.
/r/seduction22/12/25 04:46 PM
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Have you approached over 500+ women in your life? If not you will have to do that to see results in terms of certain women being aligned with your personality. You also need to give off more playerish vibes than provider vibes with certain girls. The balance is fine tuned over time when you've been on many dates. Also being honest, straightforward, and holding your frame will get you out of the friendzone vibes. You have to initiate dates and kino escalation early on.
/r/seduction22/12/25 04:16 PM
1

Not an excuse not to date outside of employment. There's plenty of ppl you will "like" as a consequence of high volume approach.
/r/seduction20/12/25 03:25 PM
2

Scarcity mindset. If you have to rely on coworkers then you're not approaching enough. But give it a go nonetheless.
/r/seduction19/12/25 07:44 AM
1

Cold approach works wonders for self esteem and confidence building, apart from improving style, hygiene, and "looksmaxxing", charisma/convo skills.
/r/seduction18/12/25 06:08 PM
1

Defeatists mentality. You care too much about what people think. As soon as you adopt a change to this your attitude will follow suit.
/r/seduction18/12/25 06:04 PM
1

Your reply relies on projection and unfounded assumptions, pretending to know someone’s character, emotional life, and values based solely on my responses to day game and criticism of exclusive relationships in the western world. Drawing conclusions about a person’s fulfillment or philosophy by scrutinizing my critique of marriages is intellectually lazy and ignores the complexity of real human relationships whether closed or open. This kind of armchair psychoanalysis says more about your need f…
/r/seduction18/12/25 04:07 AM
1

Your trips with your wife are 1 example and is subjective. You need to remove your subjectivity and see my statement as a generality for the majority of relationships that are exclusive. I never said free from boredom, your interjecting. I approach a lot because I am NOT needy. I do day game not night game. And yes 50 approaches 4x a week is the minimum for true practitionership when it comes to having many plates. If you want a Disney monogomy relationship then obviously my advice isn't needed.…
/r/seduction17/12/25 09:57 PM
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You care too much about what people think and fear rejection and are outcome dependent. As soon as you change your mindset and incur lots of rejection you will have successful outcomes; any "cool guy" or ego stuff you imagine will go out the window.
/r/seduction17/12/25 05:12 PM
9

Good guide to cold approach? I'll give you the best one: The Forward Male: World-Class Day Game for the Male in His 20s As far as getting intimate at your age? Just start interacting with girls and learn through trial and error: poke fun (flirt), kino escalate (including touching during normal conversation), body language, eye contact, voice tone and speech nuances. This can be learned via books but must be applied with many women before it becomes second nature. Your gonna fail a lot before you…
/r/seduction16/12/25 11:36 PM
2

Sleep with many people, stop being needy or you will be crippled with Oneitis for the rest of your life. Ppl need to learn how to let go and realize most relationships won't last forever... It's a different generation and the only couples that last a lifetime either have huge spikes in drama or live relatively boring, sedentary, and don't have promiscuous tendencies.
/r/seduction16/12/25 09:42 PM
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Do not do an event or activity date. Invite her out for coffee or drinks where you can sit close to kino escalate. You can choose to bounce to your place after 30-45 minutes. Edit: Unfortunately after that kind of gap you'll have to meet outside first and then invite over. If you already had sex with her invite her over directly to play a new board game or watch a short movie (lots on YouTube).
/r/seduction16/12/25 04:41 PM
1

What's your end goal with said girl?
/r/seduction16/12/25 01:46 PM
1

Honestly, I really have no fucking idea. If you want an idea from someone who approaches a lot .. the real question is how many rejections have you had?
/r/seduction15/12/25 01:25 PM
1

Most men will never aspire to take cold approach very seriously. I've preached 30-50 approaches per day 4+ times a week is a minimum to non neediness, a scarcity free mindset, and finding/screening women to fit your needs and personality compatibility. It's also a prerequisite for multiple plates. If you're looking for monogamy then low numbers will eventually get you to that goal.
/r/seduction14/12/25 03:21 AM
3

Yeah loner for life. Losing recipe.
/r/seduction13/12/25 02:02 AM
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One of the best comments on this sub. I've been preaching this for 5 years.
/r/seduction13/12/25 02:01 AM
1

The majority of the time, yes. It's akin to height, where the woman prefers someone taller than her.
/r/seduction13/12/25 12:46 AM
2

This is fantastic, very happy for you! Appreciate the insight and references!
/r/seduction12/12/25 04:49 AM
1

seeing IOIs are limited to the location of where you are approaching (night club venue) You can't get an IOI in a busy city such as a Metro station where high approach volume is possible. Warmer? What girls seem like on the surface has no relevance (at least consistently) to whether she will go on a date and subsequently have sex with you.
/r/seduction11/12/25 04:46 PM
0

There is no reading anything. Just approach many women. Subtle signs implies you are relying on IOIs to approach. That's not conducive to high volume which beats the whole notion of needing to think about ovulation cycles.
/r/seduction11/12/25 04:36 PM
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You’re trying to wrap indecision in soft language, but the truth is simple. Mixed signals waste everyone’s time, a man should know what he wants with clear intentions. Calling that out isn’t “shaming,” it’s just refusing to play games and accepting friendzone predicaments (business partners, acquaintances, coworkers, someone you have ZERO sexual interests in is FINE). Attraction isn’t a philosophy seminar....if someone wants you, they make it clear... if they don’t, they should be very easily wi…
/r/seduction11/12/25 04:06 PM
1

We're strictly talking about cold approach.
/r/seduction11/12/25 01:30 PM
1

"Really likes me but doesn't feel anything romantic" is moronic. You completely misunderstood the context of my response. We need to start shaming men who are wasting women's time with this type of rhetoric.
/r/seduction11/12/25 01:28 PM
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Move on, that guy is cooked. Nothing romantic? Don't waste your time with extremely beta males.
/r/seduction11/12/25 01:38 AM
0

Even if the theoretical connection exists in only a very small way, it has virtually no real-world impact on cold approaches or dating dynamics. In practical terms, it doesn’t translate into anything meaningful or noticeable for a man during his interactions. In other words, the connection just doesn’t offer any real predictive value.
/r/seduction10/12/25 08:47 PM
1

The idea that a woman’s position in her menstrual cycle can reliably predict her willingness to hook up is pure fiction. Claims like “She wants an aggressive alpha when she’s ovulating” or “She prefers a gentler, beta-type guy during her period,” or even “Women are more likely to hook up while ovulating,” are baseless. Only people with little real-world experience tend to take such statements seriously.
/r/seduction10/12/25 05:20 PM
3

Stop trying to read them and be forward and clear with your intentions. Who cares what she thinks, you have to create your opportunities.
/r/seduction09/12/25 11:30 PM
5

I'm sorry to say but what's wrong with guys these days? How hard is it? Just say hey would you like to go out for a drink or something? You're going to filter out women who genuinely want to get to know you right away and then you can stop playing the friend zone game. Just some tough love.
/r/seduction09/12/25 10:42 PM
5

Around 200 in a 5-6 hour session. Felt in a flow state, and was able to instadate 2 and get about 50 contacts. I recommend every man to try the 100 in one day challenge, it will give you perspective on cold approach and how much bolder you become during a long session.
/r/seduction09/12/25 09:25 PM
2

Nope, just approach more women so you don't come off as needy. Women who want to spend time with you will become very apparent if you ever reach 3-10 simultaneous plates.
/r/seduction08/12/25 09:45 PM
1

It's more confidence, and it's the #1 characteristic to getting one laid besides other factors such as pre-selection. The Indian guy would just need to be extra bold and approach at very high volume since some ethnicities, unfortunately, can be a drawback for men.
/r/seduction08/12/25 01:33 PM
1

Worse rejection I've had after 25k approaches has been a younger girl who made a scowl face and turned an entire 180 to her friends (let's just say her ass wobbled in her yoga pants after her dance-like move lol). Many totally ignore you as well.
/r/seduction07/12/25 04:08 PM
1

Whatever your subjective view on it is.
/r/seduction06/12/25 04:31 AM
1

In addition, It's his high status and confidence/competency. The dude will look better in his 30s.
/r/seduction05/12/25 02:02 PM
1

Too regulated/scripted, it comes off inauthentic. Ppl complicate cold approach and don't do high volume. Winging it after a direct opener is optimal.
/r/seduction05/12/25 01:57 PM
6

Dude, just take her out for drinks and escalate physically with kino. That's the only surefire way to know. She's signaling you to make moves. Take action and don't be so passive. What's with this bizarre friendzone energy men have these days. Be direct, forward, and playful and you will be in bed with her in no time.
/r/seduction05/12/25 12:27 AM
4

Approaching 50 women with a calm, outcome-independent mindset is less desperate than approaching one woman and hinging your sense of worth on her reaction, which is essentially needy imo. I have approached 10s of thousands of women because rejection is the norm and I embrace it... Therefore you get positive outcomes as a result - that essentially come in waves in between incessant rejection. My position on high volume is essentially a screening process, not a cry for attention, you will auto sel…
/r/seduction04/12/25 03:24 AM
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You need to be doing high volume approach for any attempt at success. I'm saying 50-100 per week at minimum for multiple plates. If your looking for a gf I'd say 50. Let me know if you need me to elaborate
/r/seduction04/12/25 02:35 AM
1

Big fat Zero
/r/seduction29/11/25 01:51 PM
1

It's all about approach and first/second date logistics. This is the strangest take I've seen on this sub.
/r/seduction28/11/25 08:51 PM
6

"When are you available this week?"
/r/seduction26/11/25 11:15 PM
1

It's the only choice if you want many plates, and reach levels of experience with women the average man will not see/experience in a lifetime. If you want to find your "soulmate" and suffer the drawbacks of an exclusive relationship, or worse a marriage,.then high volume isn't necessary. I'll never be monogamous as I do wish for new experiences and will never stop approaching. I understand this isn't the norm and it's very worth it as you'll screen for women who wish to spend time with you and b…
/r/seduction26/11/25 06:18 PM
1

I said a week - in order to establish a subjective experience that would ultimately contradict your refutation about my take on rejection. Indicators of interest.
/r/seduction25/11/25 11:29 PM
1

Go ahead and approach 100 women a week for an entire calendar year and see if your insights/notions hold true. Like I've mentioned on the sub before. If you get to 1000+ you start realizing many women are in a state and incessant rejections lead to a proportionate amount of positive outcomes. I'm not talking about low volume approaches where the girls give IOIs. Im speaking from a perspective of high volume approach and what the experience is like from someone who has reached 25k approaches in r…
/r/seduction25/11/25 10:28 PM
2

Rejection is primarily out of your control. There's subset of women that are going to be attracted to you and it's often her micro and macro state that leads to receptiveness and contact exchange
/r/seduction25/11/25 10:12 PM
1

If you get to 10k total day game approaches you will see that being direct (be forward, make your intentions clear, compliment her looks on the first opener, then wing it), embracing rejection, and instadates/number closing is the most effective combination. There's nothing humiliating about rejections. They compromise the majority of all approaches no matter how good looking or smooth you are. They are a necessity before seeing blips of positive outcomes. Any loser can get someone's Instagram. …
/r/seduction25/11/25 07:31 PM
11

This is categorically the wrong way to do day game cold approach.
/r/seduction25/11/25 03:28 PM
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I wouldn't recommend having female friends as it just reinforces you into a friendzone lifestyle/frame. Acquaintance? Sure. Friend and your find her attractive? Never. Catch up by not continuing to have platonic friendships with women and start dating frequently until you figure out the nuances of body language, eye contact, holding conversation, kino escalation, and humor/banter. If you need a self help book to get your started then begin with that.... Practice makes perfect.
/r/seduction24/11/25 11:05 PM
6

Such a thoughtful comment, very insightful
/r/seduction24/11/25 09:23 PM
8

Don't do event dates. Just say we should get coffee or drinks and set a date and time based on her availability. Get off the web and start interacting with women in person, that's how you get better at flirting. Unfortunately not every man learns this stuff in middle/high school so there's a lot of catching up and practice to do.
/r/seduction24/11/25 09:01 PM
28

Flirt in person. Ask her out on a 1 on 1 date.
/r/seduction24/11/25 06:21 PM
2

Well you'll need to write a book, send me a signed copy. Your not the norm at all.
/r/seduction19/11/25 10:02 PM
1

I work for myself so easy to average 150+ approaches per week I don't understand your second sentence. Are you translating?
/r/seduction18/11/25 06:13 PM
2

Once you pass 1000+ approaches I think it's smooth sailing. I'm in the 20k + range and have an even more nuanced perspective from seeing women's behavior via cold approach.
/r/seduction18/11/25 05:41 PM
9

Always directly. You are your most attractive to a woman when you're direct, clear and decisive with your intention & mannerisms. In other words, be as deregulated as you can, meaning no scripts or rehearsed prompts. Just wing it after you first introduce yourself and compliment her beauty. Something to the effect of hey, I thought you were really pretty I wanted to come say hi...after that talk about anything you want and either choose an instadate or number close. Keep it's simple. Most of my …
/r/seduction18/11/25 04:36 AM
1

Jump in the fire and start approaching and embracing rejection
/r/seduction18/11/25 02:58 AM
1

It's both my man you can't oversimplify by focusing on one side. It's all inclusive & comprehensive.
/r/seduction18/11/25 02:38 AM
1

When you understand the psychology (societal and biological implications) of a woman, you will understand "most" women.
/r/seduction18/11/25 12:01 AM
75

Anywhere there's high traffic volume pedestrian wise whether it's a shopping mall, subway station, outdoor events, grocery stores doesn't matter. Put the numbers in. You'll find women who are wanting to go on dates and go on to be intimate
/r/seduction17/11/25 05:22 PM
1

You care too much about what people think. Be the approach guy, who gives a fuck, nobody has the balls to do it in your area. Those chicks should be flattered and grateful someone approached them, because men don't these days.
/r/seduction17/11/25 01:15 PM
1

The overwhelming majority of the time. Girls are just often in a state and ghosting/rejection compromises the majority of all interactions no matter how smooth or good looking you are. There are exceptions obviously for high fame/status.
/r/seduction16/11/25 09:43 PM
8

Because they're idiots and like to play stupid games based on the societal programming where if a woman is too easy or shows interest early on its a turn off, pure stupidity. I wish more women are clear with their intentions and can override years of sexual suppression and just have intimacy as soon as they wish without being shamed by others; women are just as horny as men, biologically speaking, we just live in a sexually suppressed world unfortunately and women are the main victims.
/r/seduction14/11/25 06:07 AM
1

I have very little idea about what your saying. All my relationships that I deem the girl attractive is positive in some way. Whether it's a friends with benefits scenario or something a little more serious. I am not needy by choice because I continue to approach at a high volume.
/r/seduction13/11/25 01:12 PM
2

You.cant have an abundance mindset if you don't approach/date many women. Once you get to 500-1000 approaches and get some plates/sexual interactions then you can start building a non-needy scarcity-free mindset
/r/seduction13/11/25 04:43 AM
2

The dude is cooked first off... but If you like that type of guy then grab his hand and put in your leg or another intimate area and encourage him to go further with your words, eye contact, and body language.
/r/seduction13/11/25 04:36 AM
1

No you can't do those numbers on college campuses. Heavy foot traffic/transportation setting.
/r/seduction12/11/25 01:21 PM
1

I don't wish to reveal that. But definitely in the top 70 for most populated city which is necessary for that amount within 5-6 hours.
/r/seduction11/11/25 05:17 AM
1

You'll have to look up the definition of "tend". Rules in society often emerge from patterns of regular behavior, hence my word choice. Rules are also general... they typically do not apply to specific individuals or cases as I've illustrated. Inclination is just a euphemism to further support my general argument.
/r/seduction06/11/25 01:28 AM
2

Just approach, compliment, wing it and try to number close within 1-3 minutes. Talk about anything, it doesn't matter. Being deregulated and direct is ideal
/r/seduction05/11/25 09:48 PM
0

Some people's subjective view doesn't dispute the rule. I'm speaking in general for society and how most societally successful women view most below average/average men In other words, competent and socially savvy women tend to not be attracted to men who are inept, unintelligent, and humorless.
/r/seduction05/11/25 06:35 PM
0

Man I wish I started 11 years ago.... It's been 5 years for me and in order to "move the needle" you need to do very high volume. I'm probably around 25k + approaches if I had to guess, but I'm able to do that in the very busy city (high foot traffic). 100+ per week is minimum for success with multiple plate formation in 6mo-12mo span.
/r/seduction05/11/25 04:04 PM
2

*women who are clumsy and have chaotic lives themselves. Most successful and intelligent women will not want to be around a mediocre man.
/r/seduction05/11/25 01:09 PM
1

Start doing 15 per day 4 days a week. Keep the convo sub 2-3 minutes and try to number close. You will gain traction as you embrace more and more rejection.
/r/seduction04/11/25 07:34 PM
1

Embracing rejection is a prerequisite to having women in your life. After about 1000+ approaches you will see normal female behavior and how she is on the surface is irrelevant to how the interaction and future is outcomes will play out.
/r/seduction04/11/25 01:38 AM
4

Approach many women in your city.
/r/seduction03/11/25 11:50 PM
1

To elaborate.... being able to have sex with many women isn't so special and amazing, it's only due to approaching A LOT. Yes, very uncommon, but I'm willing to get rejected incessantly and in high-volume as the precondition to hooking up with many girls.
/r/seduction03/11/25 01:37 PM
1

If you think most of the anxiety and tension goes away after your first 100 approaches, then you're an anomaly. I think you should publish a book
/r/seduction03/11/25 12:46 AM
1

Yes, to an extent, if you embrace it and understand it's overwhelming majority of all interactions. Approach anxiety lessens greatly after 1000+ daytime approaches. In my experience after 10,000 approaches the tension is barely there.
/r/seduction02/11/25 10:38 PM
1

I'm responding directly to your comment.
/r/seduction02/11/25 09:36 PM
1

What is the alternative to not getting laid as a male in his prime with high libido? Love and belonging are important. Good luck sexual suppression.
/r/seduction02/11/25 07:00 PM
2

5 approaches. After 50 in one day it's just quick and flow state. When I did 150 in a day once I was just expecting a rejection so I can go on to the next, surprised how many contacts I got that day.
/r/seduction02/11/25 06:48 PM
0

I completely agree with you. I'm just throwing the case out there for the argument that 200+ is the minimum for world class day game which your percentage accurately sums up. Most men won't even do 30 per week (excludes online dating) because of the mediocrity of modern men in the dating market. I try to encourage 200+ on these posts because of how it changed my life in terms of what I've been seeking, so any number close to that one will get results for multiple women, not monogamy. I'm quite m…
/r/seduction02/11/25 06:26 PM
1

You need to quit those habits ASAP, otherwise you're cooked. Once your alcohol and porn free for a year and get to a decent weight via diet & exercise then start slowly approaching. If you delay fixing your life around it will get harder to get out of as you age.
/r/seduction02/11/25 05:43 PM
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Please re read that... I put a caveat in there. True high volume cold approach is 200+ per week (advanced level) anything under isn't going to have high plate formation (8-10 plates) with multiple days of sex per week with different women. If oneitis is what OP is after then good luck with that, highly advise against it if you live in the western world. With that being said....not to be confused with a lower tier; which is general plate formation: 20-40 approaches, 4+ days per week, for at least…
/r/seduction02/11/25 05:38 PM
2

Not a good mindset. Need to be doing 200+ approaches per week if you want to have a great love life. Doing less isn't true practitionership but will still produce results but may take longer to accumulate plates. You have to embrace rejection. Signals don't mean too much in the grand scheme of things as many women will not do so but will still go on to have sex.
/r/seduction02/11/25 05:15 PM
6

It's odd for what reason? Because of society or surrounding audience? Your care too much what people think. Nobody really cares that you said hi to a few girls on campus, they could care less. You'll be surprised how many women are flattered whether or not you get rejected. You can talk about commonalities on first date. Cold approach is about being clear with your intentions and forward. Secure the number or do an instadate. That's it.
/r/seduction01/11/25 07:17 PM
14

Great to hear man, it only gets better in your 30s, I can definitely relate to everything you mentioned! I started feeling 95% content with those characteristics at age 25.
/r/seduction30/10/25 10:39 PM
0

Date single women, less drama/problem.
/r/seduction30/10/25 08:58 PM
3

If it wasn't based on some extenuating circumstance, it was because you didn't escalate to sex on the 2nd or 3rd date. Many women who are sexually attracted to this will want sex on 2nd or 3rd date and will ghost if you don't follow through with it. Gotta be extra forward in these circumstances.
/r/seduction29/10/25 11:31 PM
1

You should build rapport and interest in person, much more genuine and mature, a lot can go wrong with texts (loss of interest, joke gone wrong) you give her more chances to disqualify a possible meet up. She won't let you = hard pass. Develop an abundance mindset and approach/date a lot. You don't want to get in too deep with someone exuding that much resistance when shes still virtually a stranger.
/r/seduction29/10/25 03:36 PM
1

Simple solution. Use texting to set up dates exclusively. You can get to know the person in the flesh where tone, eye contact, and body language is present. Also as the man, you acquiring her contact via in person or internet should be followed up with you dictating where and when the date should be with obvious modifications in accordance to her availability/location/interests).
/r/seduction29/10/25 01:27 PM
2

Keep it simple.... coffee/tea or drinks date. I don't drink so I keep 1st dates under $15 on average. Under 1.5 hours as well. You shouldn't invest too much money upon the first meeting in case the romantic/sexual attraction isn't there (largely dependent on man's frame and choice of convo/behavior on first dates) - Yes we are taking you out to get to know you intellectually and intimately and any jumping through "courtship" hoops & numerous dates without intimacy is just sexual suppression inst…
/r/seduction28/10/25 06:56 PM
2

It's gonna be hard if you never established that in early childhood and adolescence all the way up to high school. It's just like language acquisition the older you get the less installment efficacy... Will take longer it to get those memory pathways and experience to deeply engrain. Get yourself out amongst women/dates as soon as you can. I can't imagine how it is for any man in a 1st world country to not have experienced the intricate & fascinating personality and affection of women (5-10 mini…
/r/seduction28/10/25 05:26 PM
1

This is the method I preach as it is you being your most attractive (direct, forward, winging it, and deregulated). Women do love it, and if she rejects, her behavior at the surface doesn't always match (uncoupled) what she actually felt at the time and/or afterwards. I'll even go further and say that my approaches are sub 90 seconds unless the girl is very talkative and storytelling and seems to be single and looking for men to date.
/r/seduction28/10/25 03:08 PM
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It's a possibility that they want the attention/benefits of being with a male & no sex, which would come with modern day friend zoning. They like this "self sexual suppression" especially when they are able to convince simps to put them on a pedestal and extract services/resources.
/r/seduction28/10/25 03:03 PM
2

You cannot unless you're super selective and are avoiding rejection. If you mass cold approach (200+ a week min.), you will get laid proportionally in waves (20 rejections in a row, then a few numbers, repeat) those numbers will lead to some dates which will lead to getting laid if you're forward enough.
/r/seduction24/10/25 11:54 PM
1

Depends on where you live but.. cold approach a lot, I'm able to do 200+ per week, try 50+ minimum to start.
/r/seduction24/10/25 12:13 PM
1

First date should always generally be a public bar/coffee shop keep it under 1-1.5 hours. Kino and a little sex talk is also a prerequisite.
/r/seduction24/10/25 01:20 AM
3

You need to be dating a lot more for a fairer sample size. A couple dates here and there from online dating is going to get the exact response of your post. 3 dates a week minimum if you want to find "high interest" women anytime soon, since it's numbers game. You also need to be inviting women over to your home or at least suggest after the date - on the second date. First date, for the most part, they get buyers remorse or you get ghosted. 2nd date is much better in terms of retention.
/r/seduction23/10/25 07:01 PM
1

Beat me to it, well said!
/r/seduction23/10/25 12:42 PM
1

There is nothing that will ever beat sheer high volume cold approach. I'm talking 200+ a week at the minimum. Warm approaches are limited to the groups you surround yourself with & women who initiate physical signs first (aka I'm not embracing rejection enough).
/r/seduction23/10/25 12:40 PM
1

Exactly... a city with 500k ppl is a starting point/minimum for this level of approaches.
/r/seduction22/10/25 12:07 PM
0

Adequate "boring over time for both parties" sex life, no thanks. I currently have 3 low drama & happy open relationships that are more than just FBs (these can be closed on their end if they wish). Monogamous ones come with high drama is my argument... especially if you share the same home and finances, not to mention children (I understand kids are necessary to populate society). I don't mind the grind, it's nice to be able to approach any woman you wish and have an opportunity in possibly sta…
/r/seduction22/10/25 12:34 AM
1

How exactly do I talk? You mean write. Reddit isn't a place for precise grammar, punctuation, and sentence structure. I can write you an APA response if it will prompt you to refrain from using strawman arguments. Being thirsty as a man is not a diss. Most men in the western world are quite lonely or cannot have multiple women in their life simultaneously. And I'd argue most men would if they had the choice and wouldn't be condemned by their family/friends/society. My justification for doing hig…
/r/seduction21/10/25 05:08 PM
2

Most men who seek cold approach will not pursue true practitionership which is that aforementioned figure. There's no burnout if you wish to have multiple women in your life. Just eat a solid diet and exercise properly. I don't see how mass cold approaching would lead to that... Or maybe I'm different and don't see it that way
/r/seduction21/10/25 01:48 PM
0

I understand 99.9% of men will not put in numbers like I do but I am also very masculine and forward so approaching this many women in the densely populated city I live in is ideal especially considering my average convo is sub 2 minutes and 50% are 1 minute. So I wouldn't discredit that it's "bullshit". Not practical for most men and their living/financial conditions? Correct. I work from home and have a business which allows me to spend an hour or two a day approaching, and I do so because I e…
/r/seduction21/10/25 01:44 PM
1

Good looks only gives you a slight advantage on how ramped up your confidence needs to be.
/r/seduction21/10/25 01:39 PM
32

High volume cold approach, full stop. 200+ approaches per week minimum and you will naturally filter for women who are attracted to you. Including the 9s & 10s
/r/seduction20/10/25 08:39 PM
8

That's completely dependent on how many cold approaches you do including "dating app" numbers.
/r/seduction20/10/25 12:53 AM
1

Correct its less taboo for them and what happens there stays there and promiscuous actions are more acceptable in their minds
/r/seduction18/10/25 09:58 PM
2

I don't understand your statement
/r/seduction18/10/25 09:30 PM
2

Do it brother. Less westernized women and if you are white you get a further advantage.
/r/seduction18/10/25 08:25 PM
4

As many contacts from dating apps as you can along with the most important... As many in person approaches as you can for instadates and/or dates established via text.
/r/seduction15/10/25 12:09 PM
3

You just gotta try and attempt witty conversations where you show subtle attraction cues through your tone, speech, facial expressions and body gestures. You can read about these in self help books but practice and failures are necessary for improvement.
/r/seduction13/10/25 03:13 PM
1

Once you get her number and leave. You text her the next day or whenever you have time.
/r/seduction13/10/25 12:28 AM
1

I would ask for the date through text or if you live in a high pedestrian area you can ask for instadate, if she denies that try a number close, or just number close to begin with. Hi my name is xxxx I thought you were cute... Then you wing it. Exchange names of course and you can literally talk about anything, just be forward and persistent.
/r/seduction12/10/25 10:11 PM
1

As long as you wing it, you are your most attractive to the woman (and authentic). Any regulated behavior or scripted lines are not ideal. It doesn't matter what you talk about, it's all about approaching her confidently and closing within a reasonable amount of time, whether you're pursuing a phone number or instadate.
/r/seduction07/10/25 02:58 PM
1

I'm talking about beta male losers who have strange quirks/personalities. There are many euphemisms here.
/r/seduction07/10/25 12:40 PM
10

Women don't approach because of the fear of rejection and all the characteristics within the realm of 'stranger danger'. Can't blame them for the latter, lots of awkward guys out there to include creeps and low life's.
/r/seduction06/10/25 09:23 PM
7

I've never had a date make a big deal about this once I explained my lifestyle choices and made them feel comfortable about drinking on their own. Some even decide to not drink either.
/r/seduction30/09/25 10:09 PM
1

Her receptiveness during the cold approach is independent of whether or not shell go on a date and so forth. Some standoffish and neutral will go on to have sex with you. Some very receptive and positive approaches go on the ghost you. My interactions are less than 2 minutes most days. Some of which only last 30-45 seconds. Rapport building is a waste of time if you do high volume approaches.
/r/seduction29/09/25 05:57 PM
1

Welcome to irrational and illogical female wiring/societal programming!
/r/seduction29/09/25 03:33 PM
2

1000s of approaches is the answer
/r/seduction28/09/25 06:05 AM
2

"Don't be"implies that your referring me to that implication. You cant defeat me with your lack of linguistics. I actually.love women and have a deep respect in the correct context.
/r/seduction27/09/25 02:02 AM
5

Get your definitions correct. Misogynist means hatred of women. Words have meaning and that's what you implied.
/r/seduction27/09/25 12:36 AM
0

Pointing out basic biological facts about the differences between men and women doesn't make me a misogynist.
/r/seduction26/09/25 08:29 PM
2

Can't disagree more, I have male friends that fulfill friendship needs and it's more powerful since men are more superior in every regard except maybe child care/rearing. Slight acquaintances with a woman, sure, just friends never. ultimately, the primary reason why men would spend time with women is to get sexual satisfaction.
/r/seduction26/09/25 04:14 PM
1

The forward male is revolutionary. Wouldn't be where I was today without it. Wouldn't have this many women in my life if I didn't read that 'gold'
/r/seduction26/09/25 12:39 PM
1

I'm not talking about monogamous relationship establishment here, any guy can find a 4 or 5 get oneitis and suffer high drama . I'm talking in context of what a <1% super confident hyper promiscuous man would do.
/r/seduction25/09/25 01:55 AM
1

I advise that you read Mike Melhman's book, world class day game, to fully answer your question. A response on this thread doesn't do it justice.
/r/seduction24/09/25 02:14 PM
1

If you live in an area with high pedestrian traffic it is ideal... You just ask her logistics i.e. what is she doing right now and bounce her to a coffee shop, bar, or the like. Then you push for back to your house and you keep insisting, it's ok to burn the bridge here - if not contact exchange and move on. Bedroom game is another topic for another thread. But yes women will acquiesce to high confident men with proper frame, because they want sex too.
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:20 PM
1

As long as I am getting to know the woman intellectually and intimately I don't care when the sex comes, preferably sooner since sex is the the ultimate driving factor (otherwise I would just spend time with my male friends). Also women make it hard in most cases for men to get close and sleep with them thanks to the societal programming as in the case of many TV shows and Disney movies.
/r/seduction23/09/25 12:54 PM
3

I think you get a void because society says that it's way too soon which primarily affects women. I've never seen a man react that way to having sex in a short time frame
/r/seduction23/09/25 12:04 PM
49

Exactly right. And it's on the male to be as forward as possible. Your best chances of sleeping with a woman is the same day you meet her - insta date. Push for invite to house after 20 min or so. Instadate lays lead to more ghosting post hookup. 1st or 2nd lay leads to a bit lower chance of ghosting and higher chance of long term plate but hookups are a bit lower on non instadates.
/r/seduction23/09/25 12:17 AM
8

Mass approach volume at subways or train stations or a busy city is ideal.
/r/seduction21/09/25 05:36 PM
5

Or just cold approach and use text only to set up dates. Save the charm and flirtation for in person where eye contact and body language matters.
/r/seduction21/09/25 04:22 PM
-1

It's just sex bro, enjoy life, what the worst that can happen - you don't like the sex (quite rare in my estimation), but it's still better than being alone & self pleasure.
/r/seduction18/09/25 11:51 PM
2

5 is the only thing that I have contention with. Direct approach is king, you are being most authentic this way and environmental comments is a means of the inevitable in most cases, rejection.
/r/seduction18/09/25 12:09 AM
1

It doesn't hurt to do so if you don't approach a lot. But if you approach enough you should just hard next and meet more women who want to spend time with you.
/r/seduction17/09/25 12:23 AM
181

You fear rejection. And your outcome dependent. And you care what people think including the surrounding audience. Reverse all 3 and nothing can stop you from meeting women.
/r/seduction16/09/25 11:15 PM
1

Invite her over to your place, end of story. You can't dictate any monogamy with her until you've had sex twice... Let alone not even kissing. Don't be stuck in the friendzone. Leave 'getting to know her' for in person, just use texting to set up dates. If she wants to play text tag keep it at a minimum.
/r/seduction16/09/25 07:42 PM
3

Unbelievable insight, great post my friend.
/r/seduction15/09/25 12:12 PM
8

Nope they reject just as much as 7-10s. It's all about her 'state' at that moment your approach. Some women just don't find day game approach comfortable for whatever reason, some are neutral, some welcome it with open arms regardless of demographics.
/r/seduction14/09/25 06:25 PM
6

You can't avoid people's weird tendencies. Unfortunately meeting women in hobbie meetups comes with these kind of annoyances and inconveniences. Best bet is to try to isolate and/or quickly number close the girl you like.
/r/seduction13/09/25 08:10 PM
1

Various cities still implies a low sample size since you can only be in one area at a time as an individual.
/r/seduction11/09/25 12:22 PM
5

It's not enough of a sample size to observe a single city in a certain time frame from one's purview. Statistics are quite beneficial, especially in this post/case.
/r/seduction11/09/25 12:33 AM
1

Be in the moment and work on your memory and recollection.
/r/seduction09/09/25 11:27 PM
14

It's the norm, flaking and ghosting will comprise most of your interactions with women no matter who you are (unless it's a high social status person i.e. celebrity)
/r/seduction08/09/25 07:41 PM
0

Who cares how many guys came up, you're looking at this from an outcome orientated perspective. Your move is, simply hi I am xxxx I thought you were cute/pretty. Ask for her name, then wing it. I'd recommend an insta date for night game if not, many girls are more likely to ghost after a night of drinking.
/r/seduction06/09/25 01:46 PM
1

Just be transparent and approach more.... the more dates you get the more chances you have of filtering out for women who won't bring up the conversation about kids or don't care either way.
/r/seduction05/09/25 04:04 PM
1

She's often in a state... This doesn't apply to the first date. Approach is a means of getting a number or going on an insta date. How you vibe with her or how receptive she is has very little to do with you seeing her again. Many women will ghost or flake regardless of the vibe.
/r/seduction05/09/25 02:32 PM
4

A man's preference for brief conversations isn't about trying to be cool or mysterious, but rather it's rooted in experience and efficiency. After enough approaches, it becomes clear that longer conversations don’t improve outcomes. They don’t make the interaction better, and they don’t increase the chances of follow-through. What the novice mistakes as “building rapport,” the experienced man sees for what it is: filler. He understands that success depends far less on what’s said, and far more o…
/r/seduction04/09/25 06:50 PM
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He's got a porn addiction, plain and simple. Dumbed down dopamine receptors, full stop. Or some childhood trauma.
/r/seduction04/09/25 03:13 AM
4

A guy will not give a fuck about rejection or his batting average. Insofar as the male opens as many women as possible (and consistently), the numbers game will play out, and promiscuity can be achieved.
/r/seduction04/09/25 01:13 AM
20

If you feel like you've missed out on sexual opportunities then make it a point to approach as many women as your schedule allows. Btw 28-32 is your prime in terms of getting women from the entire legal age range.
/r/seduction03/09/25 08:20 PM
3

130 is great for a true start, but in true practitionership, when you get to 1000 is when you'll get to a better sense of a woman's 'state' (where the tip of the iceberg begins).
/r/seduction03/09/25 08:09 PM
1

Approach her next time you see her. The longer you wait the worse, generally speaking. You want to be the first guy to ask for her number. Remember if she's not interested there are plenty of women out there and it's a numbers game. Don't hyper fixate on one girl who may not reciprocate interest. Confused and anxious about 1 approach/girl when you need to do hundreds to secure dates is a scarcity mindset.
/r/seduction03/09/25 06:01 PM
1

Approach 150+ girls a week, end of story
/r/seduction03/09/25 02:26 PM
2

Numbers game my man. Girls who "seem interested" can very misleading early in your date acquisition timeline. Basically just expect every and any girl to flake / ghost because you need to recognize that her behavior / words mean less than zero. The ones that truly want to be with you/sleep will make it very apparent.
/r/seduction03/09/25 01:25 AM
2

Unfortunately the leverage is on her side in the context of what she wants to do (agreeing to meet up, sharing photos, disclosing intentions) when it comes to online dating. The only solution I have is to make in person approaches whether it's in a social circle or cold approach.
/r/seduction02/09/25 06:47 PM
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I think you've misunderstood my use of the word unregulated in this context. I'm saying that you're winging the conversation and not using PUA inspired tactics or gambits. Becoming non needy (approaching in high volume has nothing to do with neediness, it's the only way to have success in terms of multiple relationships aka non-monogomy) is a requisite to success in having many relationships in your lifetime. The core issue here that I'd like to stress is that high volume pproaches alone isn't e…
/r/seduction01/09/25 01:52 AM
1

Just say hi and let her know that you're interested. The longer the wait the worse... Someone may scoop her up or she will lose interest because of your hesitancy. If she isn't interested, just remember it's a numbers game for men.
/r/seduction01/09/25 01:16 AM
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Embracing rejection was used correctly here, read it again or I will do my best to sum up what I mean in my last paragraph... by embracing rejection you understand that's the norm and you avoid neediness and outcome dependence. Making small talk or building rapport does not change whether or not a woman will exchange contacts or go on an instant date with you. It only wastes time. The difference between a 90-second conversation and a 5-minute conversation is negligible and at the end of the 5 mi…
/r/seduction31/08/25 06:05 PM
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My comment is the antithesis of what the PUA community purports. When you don't embrace rejection, you are most likely using indirect methods in order to delay the inevitable, which is rejection. Being direct and authentic with your intentions is most attractive to women & any divergence from direct approach is too regulated. You're ultimately changing your behavior for her and not holding frame, obviously it may work in some cases as just saying hi and holding a conversation can convert to succ…
/r/seduction31/08/25 05:23 PM
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Direct approach always surpasses indirect or observational approach. Anything different is a means of avoiding rejection which is the norm
/r/seduction31/08/25 04:41 PM
1

What did you try? You need to get rejected 100x to even approach the tip of the iceberg
/r/seduction31/08/25 04:23 PM
1

Preselection has stood the test of time. You just gotta back it up a decent amount with proper frame and your in.
/r/seduction31/08/25 04:22 PM
1

Dude just go out and approach why do you need support. Build some integrity by accumulating rejections. Need a wingman? Give me a break. Reminds me of dudes who need therapy... Just get your ass in the gym!
/r/seduction30/08/25 10:53 PM
7

Using you for attention with no true intention of meeting up. I would only escalate in a sexual manner in person. Move on and get many contacts, and use text to set up dates exclusively. You won't convince a girl to meet up if she has already out ruled that possibility.
/r/seduction29/08/25 02:22 PM
1

You care too much about what people think and their opinions. Once you get over that you'll be able to approach with a surrounding audience. Btw this extends to business, personal goals, and non-mainstream opinions/takes.
/r/seduction28/08/25 04:13 PM
1

Street is ideal for approaches. It's authentic and no alcohol is involved so she sees your confidence isn't reliant on a drug.
/r/seduction28/08/25 02:28 PM
1

I tell myself if I want a shot at getting to know this person I cannot hesitate since I'll virtually never see her again. The approach is the success and now I have no regrets anymore since I can approach anyone anywhere even with a surrounding audience. You think it's hard because you care about what people think and are focusing on the outcome and avoiding awkwardness and rejection. Guess what your first 100 approaches are trial and error and it only gets better after that. Say hi, wanted meet…
/r/seduction28/08/25 12:17 PM
3

Solid take, refreshing to see. A+ comment
/r/seduction28/08/25 04:37 AM
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You need to learn to embrace rejection, lurking around and trying again after an hour after a soft no will get you responses from women like that. The unfortunate truth is that their emotions are volatile in that kind of environment especially with alcohol present and an unknown history with men... your best shot at approaching women is as soon as you make eye contact or as soon as you spot them since waiting only builds bad anticipation and overthinking.
/r/seduction28/08/25 04:36 AM
1

Id like to imply that this is probably every 100,000+/1 men in the world
/r/seduction27/08/25 08:15 PM
1

I don't date or spend time with women to provide them any substantial financial benefit or resource and vice versa. I don't need to spend lots of money on them and buy their “love.” Do I pay for dates? Of course but it's usually a low cost (a few drinks) and push for sex by using a 2nd date model, where I invite them over to my place. Anyways, spending time with a girl is to say that I want to experience them intimately but also intellectually (sharing ideas & quality time). That’s the purest...…
/r/seduction27/08/25 12:35 PM
1

Well I work from home with a successful consultation business with no debt and a paid off condo and real estate investments for passive income. I'm not saying it's possible for everyone, I'm saying it is a necessary number for plate formation and overall success of cold approach. 10-20 approaches a week is not true practitionership as it relates to cold approach and getting laid/long term relationships.
/r/seduction27/08/25 02:06 AM
1

Granted, you can only accomplish this number (in a reasonable amount of time) in densely populated cities with lots of foot traffic.
/r/seduction26/08/25 08:56 PM
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Around 50-60 per day 3-4x a week minimum for long term plate acquisition Edit: Down votes show that many modern men are cooked, meaning fear of rejection and not putting in numbers/effort to achieve their desired goals...
/r/seduction26/08/25 08:42 PM
20

Go out on a bunch of dates and practice... teasing and poking a bit of fun balanced with kino escalation and compliments that are not related to her beauty works effectively. Just gotta know timing, the woman's own personality, body language, etc The only true way is to make lots and lots of mistakes (and successful moments) and know how to flirt will come naturally as a consequence of high numbers and taking risks. If you have a lot of women in a social circle it helps to practice with them in …
/r/seduction25/08/25 07:28 PM
2

Next time bounce to another part of the club to isolate and gauge receptiveness. That way you're not directly dealing with the dude.
/r/seduction23/08/25 01:24 AM
1

Women say "busy" but will make time to see men they like. It's a polite no, move on to someone worth your time.
/r/seduction24/07/25 12:21 PM
3

Lost cause, on to the next opportunity. You can try a follow up text a week or 2 later, but that takes a toll on your dignity and neediness imo.
/r/seduction22/07/25 04:18 AM
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Completely normal behavior for women to ghost post ONS regardless of your frame and her interest level. Since women are more likely to do ONS than men. Men would prefer follow-up sex in the long term in most cases
/r/seduction22/07/25 03:39 AM
1

What qualities would make another practitioner better than him? I'm not dismissing that there is a lone wolf there that also has done 50k + approaches.
/r/seduction21/07/25 02:14 AM
1

You understand the norm is rejection? so high approach volume is absolutely necessary for number exchange > date > relationship/sex.
/r/seduction21/07/25 12:23 AM
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Gotta close, building rapport doesn't increase chances of exchanging numbers or bouncing to another spot for a possible ONS. Sub 2-3 minutes, get the number and go. Leave kino escalation for the first date
/r/seduction20/07/25 07:41 PM
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I think too much emphasis on what you do on her side and you contemplating what is more viable for younger women is the wrong thought process. It's irrelevant imo. Can you properly manage money and have plenty of income for your lifestyle and expenses? If yes, then focus on what matters.... how you treat her, your frame, and how you structure the relationship. I'd recommend not being exclusive as that tends to promote drama. She should not rely on your finances and vice versa. If you're looking …
/r/seduction20/07/25 07:31 PM
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Wouldn't recommend living with a woman, it’s a recipe for high drama in the western world, especially if you share bedroom & bathroom. Should have lived separately and see her 1x a week for long-term success as it pertains to the relationship and your mental health.
/r/seduction20/07/25 06:59 PM
1

Just buy it and support Mike's wealth of knowledge. Pays for itself 100x over after having many great relationships over the years. Like the title says 'world class, there's nobody better than him at daygame. Straight to the point no gimmicks. Or you could DM him on IG. He will send you his blog content. Check out his podcasts dialogs on Spotify as well!
/r/seduction20/07/25 01:34 PM
1

It's a big part since I believe human connection, especially romantic/sexual is imperative for human well-being. Since sexual suppression plagues women in the western world, high approach volume is necessary to find women who haven't been brainwashed and will go on to have sex with you without much mental gymnastics that society has instilled in them. To answer your question, I have many interests, and my entire week is filled with work-play balance.
/r/seduction15/07/25 12:16 PM
1

Of course, but I work for myself and have tons of flexibility. Hence, this way of dating/relationships is not ideal and conducive for a 9-5 job. But you can still have success if you put in adequate time.
/r/seduction15/07/25 03:08 AM
1

That's fantastic. Can you break down your approach and some takeaways? Would love to hear it.
/r/seduction15/07/25 03:05 AM
1

If you can document 1000 approaches in a day with a cameraman, I will personally ship you a plaque from Guinness World Records!
/r/seduction15/07/25 02:21 AM
3

3-5 dates a week if I do ~250 approaches a week. And yes, I do sometimes get cold streaks with much lower numbers and higher rejections but cold approach success comes in waves. As long as the number of approaches is consistent and high it balances out. Don't give a fuck about what people think and the surrounding audience, if you see a girl attracted to, just approach. The worst rejection I've had besides completely ignoring me was, 'I'll pass" and I reckon based on her reaction she never had a…
/r/seduction15/07/25 01:45 AM
1

Of course, always welcome to that
/r/seduction15/07/25 01:40 AM
1

In what sense? I think being stuck in a monotonous high drama exclusive relationship is unhealthy. With more "plates" I am not needy and I am able to see 2 or more women 1x a week that allows for relationships that are rewarding and very low drama. It can only be done with high approach volume > high rejection (normal) > proportionate amount of successful 1st dates that lead to long term relationships. This represents a spectrum: fuck buddy - someone you deeply care about. I have no choice since…
/r/seduction14/07/25 11:20 PM
0

My interactions are usually less than 2 minutes with most hovering around 60-90 seconds. Number close, while asking if she is single to ensure initial receptiveness and attraction, I don't want married or women in exclusive relationship.
/r/seduction14/07/25 11:11 PM
3

I average 15% number exchange with 1/3 going on to dates. Roughly 3-4 dates a week, even if I exceed on potential dates I stick with about half the days in a week.
/r/seduction14/07/25 10:24 PM
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4 days a week 50-100 per day. It's a numbers game!
/r/seduction14/07/25 08:07 PM
2

Couldn't of said it better. Its a numbers game keep approaching, trying to rationalize women's rejection after a number exchange is a moot point. Find a girl who likes bring approached and isn't apprehensive about meeting up with a stranger in a public setting. This is completely normal which futher solidifies the need to do mass approaches.
/r/seduction03/07/25 11:25 PM
1

Sharing a dwelling, exclusivity, and more than 1x a week time spent leads to high drama on the woman's end.
/r/seduction26/06/25 03:41 PM
1

Yes, unless you want a Disney monogamy relationship with the next girl you meet & have sex with, which I advise against in 2025.
/r/seduction26/06/25 12:53 PM
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Sorry but no man doing high-level approach volume is achieving 1/5 or 20% conversation rate for sex, no matter how good looking or good the "game" is. The exception would be someone who is apparently VERY high status in a club or group setting or a well-known celebrity. It's just not realistic, especially if you do audacious approaches where there are no signals sent and a surrounding audience. As described in Mike Melhman's book 'world class day game', you have to be doing at least 50 approache…
/r/seduction26/06/25 12:22 PM
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Mike Melhman Pick up his book, world class day game... Change my life on this topic
/r/seduction18/05/25 07:30 AM
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