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Dont just make false accusations about rape (I know this is considered normal in feminist culture) , make an argument . Why is it bad to object to women having consensual sex and the deciding it was rape afterwards, like the woman who recently changed consensual sex to rape months later, having seen her ex kissing someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 08:33 AM
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You are talking about Islamic societies .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 08:25 AM
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Its basically fascism , corporations get to do what they like . Its a capitalist ideology that exists on the right and the left, a pretty ruthless one at that .
/r/MensRights15/08/15 08:12 AM
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Its this sub, people post drivel and outrage post mostly.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 05:39 AM
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"Rape culture" is about cultural attitudes towards rape . Please don't try to debate about what it is, and what its about, if you don't know . Its a silly habit that mra's and other critics of it have picked up .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 11:41 PM
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They said mens general attitudes to women . Rape culture is about "culture" . How people are socialized in the culture, attitudes . We really need to start learing about this stuff before we debate it, its just a clusterfuk .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:33 PM
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Watch the film, its not about what mra's believe its about . They were primarily talking about rape of women . This is the sort if thing Im talking about ,mra's dont have the knowledge to debate this .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:30 PM
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but can you say feminists need to stop making it a gendered issue ... and use their established fgf machinery to stop discriminating and put them both on an even playing field almost over night?
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:06 PM
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Its not feminists coming after /r/menslib, its feminists running /r/menslib as a feminist sub . Its an appropriation of mens liberation by feminists - so men getting their teeth kicked by feminists will seem normal and appropriate to them .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 09:41 PM
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They wont be tolerating tackling the problems for mens rights feminism is causing in any meaningful way. That means equaling students, fathers, abuse victims rights , the accused rights , genital mutilation victims etc etc is off their table . They are more about competing with us than they are mens liberation .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 09:37 PM
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I don't think the male feminists are aware enough to see that theirs and their colleagues behaviors and beliefs are a problem. Their motivations are modern expressions of traditionalism, protect and provide for feminism - a proxy for women . They can be the real men , by doing it . Seeing other men kicked in the face in the service of that isn't going to bother them . Traditional gender roles operate like that .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 09:28 PM
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The guy there talks about locker room jokes and cat calling as if they were evidence of "rape culture". That is pure nonsense. Rape culture concerns RAPE, not speech. We cannot say what it is an what its not, before we find out what its about . This is a mistake most critics of it are making . It concerns cultural attitudes, including speech and behaviors .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 09:25 PM
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She did really well under pressure . There is this on going problem , critics of rape culture don't know enough about it to win these debates . There is this idea that all you need is to have heard the buzzword and the hyperbole and then you are qualified to say what it is or not . Doing a bit of due diligence and knowing exactly how to skewer a feminist that knows what they are talking about would yield much better results . tldr don't debate something without knowing what is first .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 09:23 PM
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Yeah, I was angry at first ... now Im just laughing at them . Best medicine and all that .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 09:16 PM
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They do not mean AW is that. Its a woman who was with a really hot guy, out of her league, then when the dust settles and she "settles" as women call it , for an average guy who will support her and is grateful to have her ... she lstill ongs for the guy that was really amazing ... the new guy cannot measure up ... but you know she had to "settle" as women say, for him . He remains oblivious , until perhaps he finds out there was someone who got her so hot she did things that she would never do …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 09:01 PM
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because for the umpteenth time . Studies that look at who hit first are new , there are only a few of them . 100s of them do not exist , you have already been shown by various people where to find the ones that do . You can look all you want for the meta you think is out there, you will not find it .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 06:45 PM
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They are right in that they stem from gender stereotyping . They fail to acknowledge that women have been teaching kids how to be all along and that feminism and feminists work to keep these stereotypes in place, look at how hostile they are about keeping their abuse denialism in place, or the opposition of lps .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 05:41 PM
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Its not the one you are looking for , the one you are looking for doesn't exist because there are few studies that look at who hits first . You are confused . That quote I gave you is from a meta analysis that was given to you by someone else far earlier in the thread , you are conflating two different things . That is the meta analysis of 100s, but it does not show who hits first, there are only a few of such studies .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 04:53 PM
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They say that rape has always been considered one of the most heinous crimes . So long as it fits the stereotype of a violent stranger psychopath , while other rapes aren't or weren't generally recognized as rapes - like date rape being considered just what happens and something they brought on themselves if they party too hard or wear the wrong clothes , or marital rape .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:36 PM
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You know plenty about it, you are just choosing to make it look like you don't know more than the average person who has heard the buzzword and read that paragraph from wiki ... but doesn't really know anything beyond that . Perhaps if you can give a brief description of what actually happens that they say happens ... and what doesn't ... something to indicate you know something beyond the buzz word and the wiki paragraph .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 04:22 PM
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Its not that its unanswered, you are mistaken. This is what you are thinking of. "This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. " The studies on context are few .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 03:08 PM
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Got to her boss and tell them .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:22 PM
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Here, go here - on the left there is a section on context of abuse, you will find them there. http://www.domesticviolenceresearch.org/
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:18 PM
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You have been linked to the two major meta analysis already . One of them which is recent has the available studies on what you are looking for, of which there are about 4 .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:16 PM
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Im refusing to debate a topic with someone who doesn't know anything about that topic . Thats normal , you heard this buzzword , don't really know what it means, and think you can debate about it . Im saying thats unreasonable of you and unfair on me .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:12 PM
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You haven't seen a meta meta analysis proving that according to hundreds of studies women initiate domestic violence and are sole perpetrators more often than men . We'd know about it if it existed . Context is a recent development n dv research, there are not 100s of studies going back decades on it like with cts studies .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 01:43 PM
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I think in the past is was more normal to have this information, we got much bigger quickly so the information is buried underneath a lot of other stuff . Its sort of a shame because imo most mras would not be able to hold their one in a public debate with feminists . Feminists have the same issue, lots of people identifying as feminist, few that know what their buzz words and so on really mean . Try http://feck-blog.blogspot.ie/ one of the best smra sources out there .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 01:03 PM
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So you are saying pro wrestling contracts don't require people to be of sound mind when making them ? No contracts work like that . There is no consent or capacity laws for people challenging each to friendly wrestling . You have no idea what you are talking about .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 12:41 PM
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Obtuse about what? You think you have gone deep into it, you have not, you just think you did because like most people that use the buzz word don't really know anything about it .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 12:34 PM
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This is a great little paper that shows some of the methods they have been using to cover it up . http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V74-gender-symmetry-with-gramham-Kevan-Method%208-.pdf
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:44 AM
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You have not gone deep into it at all , thats just your perception because you don't know anything about it . You cannot even come up with a basic description of how it works . You have copied and pasted about 4 sentences . In the nicest possible way , can you fuck off and stop bothering people by pretending you know a topic and demanding you are debated on it .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 10:30 AM
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So the analogy where two people entering into a contract (consent) and the contract can be void if one is not of sound mind ... is not the right analogy . Yeah right .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:27 AM
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There are only 4 that know if that I know if that look at frequency . Here is the Harvard one using CDC data http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020 the other three which are in students are in /r/mensrightslinks You are right to look for those one, CTS based studies are old hat .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 10:22 AM
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Now you've moved from saying that a person is breaking a law by encouraging a drunk person to sign a contract, to alleging that they might be breaking a law by breaching a contract. Thats not what happened . You said a contract could be voided if the person is intoxicated, but you don't throw the person with the contract in prison . I pointed out that depends entirely on the contract being legal, and not something illegal. Not that it matters, because what you are talking about is entirely irrel…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 03:37 AM
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There was the civil rights act . Minorities were supposed to get the benefits , white feminism along with a racist senator who was opposed to the civil rights act got women included as a minority at the last min . This is similar to the resistance white feminists put up to black men getting the vote ... Anyhow, because white women are by far the majority, most of the resources from the act went to them . Its kind of running its course, black feminists and mra's are tired of white feminism, Im su…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 03:32 AM
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I didn't dismiss because it seemed libertarian, I dismissed because it seemed irrelevant. If your point is a libertarian argument, you have chosen to start talking about something else .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 03:14 AM
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So someone could not breach contractual and business law in a criminal way ... and then have criminal charges brought against them ... hmmm.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 03:13 AM
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Not labeling, libertarian politics seemed irrelevant and seemed to be clouding and taking you off topic . We were not talking about libertarianism, we were talking about something else and you went off topic with what seemed to my mind to be libertarian points.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:56 AM
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No Im not labeling you . It seemed that libertarian politics were drawing you off topic, I just ignored that .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:47 AM
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You seemed to be making a libertarian argument which is irrelevant here ...
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:37 AM
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Im not dishonest, I don't the understand selective service reference . I think its time to stop making stupid references to DUI and make a counter argument instead.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:31 AM
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Could be fraud ... something criminal .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 02:15 AM
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I'm not dishonest, you are asking the same pointless question . That has been answered at the top of the thread. If asking that question over and over for years was some sort of effective counter, don't you think it would have made some head way by now? Its just a pointless question and its easy to demonstrate the legal and moral similarities and differences . There are far better questions to ask .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 12:50 AM
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I pointed out the obvious difference between someone committing a crime and making a contract with someone who is mentally uncomplicated . Its retarded to keep asking the difference over and over , while never making any sort of argument against it .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 12:36 AM
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Yeah reduction in work hours too . I mentioned reproduction for the conservatives who have been mindlessly going on about a population implosion for years , despite us facing ever increasing automation .
/r/MensRights12/08/15 12:16 AM
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Lauren. She is citing Johnson - a male feminist on domestic violence, whose work on domestic violence was exposed to be deliberate fraud (standard). See the first paper called the architecture of anti science . http://www.responsiblerecovery.org/PDF/PartnerAbuse.pdf
/r/MensRights12/08/15 12:15 AM
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Again, read a few sentences, then make up the rest . Dont debate about it unless you know what it is . Its not your patience thats being tested, you test the patience of others by pretending you know about things that you clearly don't and then proceeding to argue about them . This is exactly what Im talking about .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 11:50 PM
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Your lazy cop out was "basically anything misogynistic". You have no idea what claims are being made , which ones are legitimate, and which ones aren't . Its not generalized, its very specific in how it works , you have decided it is generalized because you dont know anything about it . This is the make up what it is then argue against that nonsense that Im talking about .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 11:28 PM
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Then answer why a drunk woman can be charged with DUI, because its against the law and to protect the public. but not consent to sex without saying the law say so? because the law protects the legally incapacitated from contracts and agreements .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 11:14 PM
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No, its a lazy cop out not to know what it means . See your answer above . Don't debate it if you dont know what it is .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 11:13 PM
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I am talking about someone making a contract that is illegal, and then having someone who is legally incapacitated sign it . Not only can the courts void it, criminal charges can be brought against the person .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 11:11 PM
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Now those in power decided the laws now say a drunk woman can't consent to sex, but can be charged with drunk driving. This is what is being asked why that decision has been made. And the question is easily answered . So move on from the stupid question to a counter argument .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 10:42 PM
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It doesn't matter . A person who is deemed incapacitated cannot do certain things . Children , the mentally ill and too drunk people are deemed incapable of driving, consenting to sex, contracts etc . Asking the same stupid question about DUI and consent over and over is an exercise in futility . Like asking the same stupid question about holding women responsible for their rapes was .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 10:11 PM
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What the post pointed out that legally a drunk person can't consent to any form of action, such as signing a contract or sex, expect when that action violates a law, be it harmful or not. Yes I know this, I've been attacked by other mra's for years when I try to explain this concept in answer the constant questioning of why DUI and consent while drunk are so fundamentally different - they are not , both are deemed incapable , one of consent the other of driving , the driver is charged with the c…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 09:38 PM
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Make a point of going to /r/mensrightslinks , there is great stuff in there, I put most of the early stuff in there with an older account ... and post it here to try to increase the quality, also report the drivel .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 08:52 PM
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Yes this true . There needs to be a sharp decline in reproduction .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 08:46 PM
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I accepted that definition ... then I said a person needs to know how its normalized , which attitudes they are talking about and how it all works before they debate about it . Its not enough to look at the definition then just make up something . You can't debate e = m whatever, if you don't know what e or m means . If you want to debunk or debate it, find out how it works first , instead of reading a paragraph and inventing theories about it and debating against something you just made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 08:32 PM
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Look up is, look up ought .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 08:30 PM
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Im not a feminist. Im just trying to explain why someone that has commit a crime is charged with a crime, while someone that hasn't isnt . To say explicit verbal consent can just be invalidated is something only a feminist would dream up. It was drempt up in capacity law long before feminists were involved . If you are not of sound mind you cannot contract .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 07:53 PM
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It doesn't matter . The fact is these are legal apples and oranges so asking why they are not apples and apples over and over and then refusing to acknowledge these differences is an exercise in futility . Just like the "why don't we hold women responsible for their rapes" question that was asked over and over for 3 or 4 years . An unconscious person , child or too drunk to consent to sex person isn't charged with a crime because they have not commit one. A Dui is because they have . We should m…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 07:46 PM
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Refusing for the reasons I've given over and over . You are retarded if you want to debate about something, but don't understand your responsibility to know what it is first .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 07:43 PM
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So if I'm drunk with a girl and she's capable of deciding to have sex and explicitly says please fuck me, I do, she regrets it and it's declared that she was unable to consent... That's not consent being revoked? If there law says the consent was illegitimate, consent was not revoked , it wasn't there in the first place .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 07:41 PM
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You don't consent to commit crimes in that context, consent means agreement or contract between two people . Definition of consent . Consent is an act of reason and deliberation. A person who possesses and exercises sufficient mental capacity to make an intelligent decision demonstrates consent by performing an act recommended by another. Consent assumes a physical power to act and a reflective, determined, and unencumbered exertion of these powers. It is an act unaffected by Fraud, duress, or s…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 06:28 PM
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Well done .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 05:11 PM
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If women are legally incapable of being accountable for their actions and therefore not adults, This sub is as dishonest a feminist one, they are not making a blanket argument that women aren't accountable for any of their actions . Its that women that are intoxicated , like children cannot consent to sex. Or like how men and women that are drunk cannot drive . then they shouldn't be allowed to vote, buy and sell property and virtually every other right given to adults Those things are already d…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 05:02 PM
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What Lauren probably did was edit out the part where the feminist corrected her by saying reported to the police , you can see the interview cuts off just when she "wins" . As for the university tribunals , feminism is pushing to make the same campus kangeroo system the law of the land , so its ok to conflate the two really . Its white feminists recreating the system they used against black men back in the progressive era , with out actually burning or hanging the victims . While critics of "rap…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:19 PM
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Ah ok, no I've not been .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 03:46 PM
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So should the mens rights movement campaign to make jokes in which 9/11 victims are the butt acceptable in public comedy events in new york because of free speech , like it does making jokes with female rape victims as the butt?
/r/MensRights11/08/15 03:32 PM
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ah ok, this is feminists at DOJ lying about the definitions used by the nisvs , Ive not seen them doing that before . http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf The Nisvs find 1 in 5 in the general pop without using that definition . The doj feminists must be trying to find a way to get 1 in 5 out of the student population .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 02:22 PM
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No they are held responsible for being control of a vehicle when deemed incapable of it . Distinct from people being held responsible for having sex with others that are deemed incapable of consenting to it .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 02:16 PM
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These are not my arguments . -Consent can be revoked after the fact. They (feminists) want to make the legal argument that if the person is deemed incapable of consenting due to intoxication, there was no consent in the first place . The joke is you, not understanding what we are advocating against .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 02:10 PM
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There was a rape because she chose to get drunk. No,there is a rape because someone chose to have have sex with someone who could not consent . If you have sex with a child, the child is not held responsible because they are a child .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 02:06 PM
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You literally just transposed "drunk woman" with "child". because feminists want the law to treat drunk women consenting to sex like like children consenting to sex. Is is not ought .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 02:04 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:23 PM
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"Have you ever received unwanted attention" or "Has anyone made comments about your body" No, these definitions are not the definitions used to get the artificially inflated numbers. This is what I'm taking about , all these people just making things up as they go along , thinking they are actually involved in the debate .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 01:20 PM
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You are retarded .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:18 PM
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Keep ignoring the fact that a woman can drunkenly consent to sex and then be deemed incapable of giving consent, making a criminal out of a man who broke no law. If she is deemed legally incapable of consent , he has broken the law (rape). This isn't that hard .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:50 PM
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I've answered all these idiotic arguments . If you have sex with someone deemed incapable of consenting - they have not commit a crime, you have (rape), that's why they are not charged with a crime . If you drive while deemed incapable of driving, you have commit a crime (DUI), thats why there are criminal charges attached for you . This shouldn't have to be explained .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:42 PM
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jesus , this sub . The silliness . There is no such law that operates like that . Its like saying if you have sex with a child, the child is an accessory to rape.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:38 PM
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Look up the definition of is , look up the definition of ought . Compare the two , see the difference . I see the issue, Im not so dense as it wonder out loud why driving while deemed incapable of driving is a criminal matter for the driver , and having sex with someone deemed incapable of consenting is not a criminal matter for the person deemed in capable of consenting . These differences aren't subtle .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:35 PM
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A person acting in a non-professional capacity handing someone a pen and telling them "sign this", if they choose to sign it, drunk or not, this is not a crime. Correct, unless the contract is criminal . For example they are getting someone deemed incapable of consent to sex to agree to it on paper . Please don't come here ever again arguing this bullshit, because it's completely fallacious. Look up the definition of is, look up the definition of ought .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:30 PM
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You don;t understand whats being argued . If you have sex with a person deemed incapable of consent, they have not commit crime , you have . If you drunk and drive (deemed incapable of driving), you have commit a crime . The difference isn't that subtle .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:27 PM
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He understands the difference between is and ought . He is being smarter than most people responding to me are .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:21 PM
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That's not the logic I'm using . You and others here are using the logic that in the case of someone who cannot consent to sex legally, its they that have commit a crime .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:21 PM
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Because the civil contract is not deemed to have been a crime . Its not a crime to get someone to sign a civil contract, its a crime to have have sex with some whos consent is not there . If the contract is criminal itself, then is it criminal .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:10 PM
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Right, the drunk woman should be thrown in jail for having sex while drunk -- just like the drunk person who chooses to drive while drunk. You lose. How has the person broken the law?
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:09 PM
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I didn't propose any law like that, nor do feminists .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:09 PM
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THANK YOU !
/r/MensRights11/08/15 11:59 AM
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People don't ask for consent for completely innocent nonsexual physical contact because the idea is absurd. Right they don't when there is ongoing consent and a relationship already there . Do you understand the difference between that and initiating physical contact with random strangers who dont want it .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 11:58 AM
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A drunk person is held legally responsible for their decision to drive a car. A drunk person is deemed incapable of driving and will be charged for it because its against the law . You seem it be missing the that vital part in your argument . If someone is deemed in capable of consenting to sex, and they have sex, what law do you think they should charged with to make it equal? Your line of reasoning is flawed .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 11:16 AM
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they are the same, the state holds you liable and prosecutable for deciding to drive while intoxicated because in its eyes "you are accountable for your actions", Thats because you broke the law you dummy , the law against driving while incapable of driving . If someone is deemed in capable of consenting to sex, and they have sex, what law do you think they should charged with to make it equal?
/r/MensRights11/08/15 11:14 AM
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A self-intoxicated woman can consent to sex jut like she consent to nearly anything else in life. Yet we have these laws that treat a self intoxicate woman like a self intoxicated person making other agreements that are legally binding - if its not happening, why are worrying about it here all the time ? Sure, sometimes a court may express clemency towards a self-intoxicated person by allowing them to escape contractual obligations they entered into while self-intoxicated. And agreements like co…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 11:14 AM
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If she assaulted me personally ? I probably wouldn't get the police involved . Same goes for your grandfather , but many would if it was your grandfather . Are you now going to try and argue that its now normal to assault people because I wouldn't press charges against your grandmother , or that its not assault having moved the goal posts from would I press charges if we greeted each other with a kiss, to her forcing an unwanted kiss on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 11:02 AM
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Right, it was your notion that they mean people are high fiving rapist . That is not what they are saying , if thats your notion and your counterargument , the sheer absurdity of what you think should indicate your notion is incorrect .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 11:01 AM
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See what you are saying and the other guy I quoted saying sexual assaults are a normal part of life ? This is the sort of thing they are talking about . If your notion is that they are saying people high five rapists, the absurdity of it, should indicate strongly to you that your notion is wrong and then lead to you find out what is actually being said .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:25 AM
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I doubt she grabs people and kisses them against their will , if she did do that I'd think there was something wrong with her . Does your grandmother force people to kiss her against their will or force kisses on them? If so she probably has some problems . You don't understand consent , like feminists claim happens to people in the culture .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:18 AM
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No of course not . If I was meeting your grandmother and we were kissing to greet each other , no one is forcing an unwanted , inappropriate kiss on another . or a man grabs your hand to shake it out of custom, Thats not how the hand shaking custom works , the hand is extended, you chose to shake it or not . You really are what feminists say exist , your understanding of consent and forced are blurred .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:11 AM
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You could make the same argument about joking about 9/11 victims in new york right after it happened in front of a crowd of NYers ... but out of decency you just don't do it . Should mens rights also support making jokes about the handy capped infront of the handicapped and their families that they find offensive, is that a slippery free speech slope or is in basic decency? Why not, same thing ? We have not thought this through .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 05:08 AM
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Again you cant tell the difference between agreeing to kiss someone out of formality and forcing a kiss on someone who doesn't want it . Do you understand the difference between two men meeting and shaking hands , and someone just grabbing your hand out of the blue and forcing you into a hand shake? Do you understand the difference between a child wanting to kiss an old woman, and an old woman forcing a kiss on a crying child who doesn't want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 05:03 AM
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When its a formal greeting both people are agreeing to it . Plenty of kids are grabbed against their will and squeezed and kissed by old women, that's different from two people wanting to kiss each other . You cannot tell the difference , this is what feminists are talking about . So you are proving them right .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 04:56 AM
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The rape jokes thing is one of those things that men's movement hasn't thought out properly . If the movement is going to take the quite frankly retarded position of being for rape of women by men jokes with the rape or the victim being the butt of the joke told by men, then it has stop being against the jokes that target men and boys unfairly too eg. boys are stupid throw rock at them , joking about male rape victims being lucky and so on .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 04:47 AM
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This question again . They are treated the same , not differently . A drunk person is deemed not capable of driving legally . A drunk woman is deemed not capable of consenting to sex . Same goes for minors and people with mental problems that exclude them being capable of making contracts, consenting to sex, driving etc. A better question is why are women treated more like children and people with mental deficits by feminism , than men are when they claim to be against that very thing . If patri…
/r/MensRights11/08/15 04:17 AM
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Yeah ...
/r/MensRights11/08/15 02:01 AM
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Sorry, my bad.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 02:01 AM
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A for fucks sake. Get a source you idiot , that kid on yahoo answers calls it "eye rape" - see the ""?s There is no feminist position that simply looking at someone is rape. You are a noob .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 02:00 AM
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You know there are better things for mens rights to support than the right to just kiss strangers that dont want to be kissed Right thats the claim I made, this is the claim you said I made . by saying we want him to have the right to try and kiss someone. You are an mra that argues like that feminist .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:56 AM
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http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-stop-rape
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:52 AM
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Im not a feminist. You claimed that feminists claim looking at someone is rape . So you are an mrm noob who doesn't know what they are talking about and is making hyperbolic arguments that work no where . You don't have a point to be argued against , you just made something up .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:51 AM
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A fuck it, this shit has being posted about over and over for the last two days and people don't even know what its about . It was an odious thought experiment , that lead to odious backlash .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:47 AM
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Sorry. Fuck off idiot in relation to your bullshit claims .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:46 AM
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The assault is there on camera . by saying we want him to have the right to try and kiss someone. Thats a strawman . Kiss random strangers that dont want to be kissed .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:45 AM
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Nah, I understand his post . Its Elam style shockery . The notion that rape is really a problem with women failing to keep their bodies locked down enough is explosive , he flirted with that and jokingly said it should be legalized . And it exploded in canada. Its hardly some important mens rights issue .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:43 AM
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Feminist claim that people (men) looking at them is sexual assault. Fuck of idiot .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:37 AM
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Yeah I know what he was saying . He threw a particular bomb that implied that women are at fault for rape , and tongue in cheek suggested it should be legalized on private property to fix the problem of women basically getting themselves raped by being careless , pretty fucked up . Now someone has thrown a drink in his face over it . Hardly an important mens rights issue .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:29 AM
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Non sequitor . Unless you think sexual assault is as normal as looking at people .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:25 AM
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Ah, my bad . Same question then without grabbing . You know there are better things for mens rights to support than the right to just kiss strangers that dont want to be kissed , its just as pathetic as anything the feminists are up to .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:22 AM
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Ah, ok .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:22 AM
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A politician is asking venues not to work with a guy who said rape should be legal on private property ... nothing outrageous about that really .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:18 AM
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mra's should know what this is about before mindlessly debating about it I thought about this problem and am sure I have the solution: make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds. http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-stop-rape
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:15 AM
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Ah ok, sorry thought you were the op . His article is on his site .
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:13 AM
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No, we are talking about sexual assault . The guy is saying sexual assault is a normal part of life . "Kissing me on the cheek is not sexual assault in my world. Because I'm a cool guy. Kiss my cheek, tickle me, slap my ass. I don't care. It's happened in bars, both straight and gay. It's part of life. I've even had gay men cup my balls."
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:10 AM
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Its one of his most controversial articles . Do you know anything about this or are you just mindlessly posting videos about it?
/r/MensRights11/08/15 01:09 AM
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The fact that old people think they can grab a child and kiss them against their will and people think that's normal ... yeah that's a good example . The guy I linked you to that thinks sexual assault is normal said "Kissing me on the cheek is not sexual assault in my world. Because I'm a cool guy. Kiss my cheek, tickle me, slap my ass. I don't care. It's happened in bars, both straight and gay. It's part of life. I've even had gay men cup my balls."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 01:06 AM
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This is more of what I'm talking about . Its idiotic to think you can debate things you don't know the meaning of in the first place .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 12:23 AM
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That's not at all what he was saying. Kissing me on the cheek is not sexual assault in my world. Because I'm a cool guy. Kiss my cheek, tickle me, slap my ass. I don't care. It's happened in bars, both straight and gay. It's part of life. I've even had gay men cup my balls. Kissing on the check doesn't equal groping someone's genitals. Right, they are different types of sexual assault if some random does it to someone . We are out to prove the feminists right here today ...
/r/MensRights11/08/15 12:21 AM
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Yeah, I am intentionally refusing to explain . I've said why over and over .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 12:19 AM
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The reason I ask for you to clarify what you believe rape culture to be is because no debate can happen until we agree on the premise. So if your notions about the thing that you don't know anything about align with ... fuck You cant have a premise if you don't know what it is .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 12:07 AM
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Ok, here is an example of exactly what they are talking about . https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3gi9lj/canadian_man_kisses_reporter_on_cheek_she_presses/ctyexrn
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/15 12:03 AM
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Roosh V isn't mrm. Advocating that rape be legal on private property is not mrm , this is not a mens right thing . Its red pill or /r/pussypass because feminists get a pass on being violent .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 11:58 PM
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because its not anyone elses responsibility to explain complex ideas to people who want to debate those complex ideas while having little to no information on it . Its the responsibility of the person that wants to debate those things . I can't rock up to quantum physics and expect to debate it based on notions, and then expect others to teach me what it is ... its not how it works, yet mra's and red pillers think thats how it works with "rape culture".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:51 PM
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Ah fuck it, you have the incorrect notion that means people are literally cheering on and high fiving people for raping, now you are using that notion in an argument . You can't debate complex things based on notions , nor should you .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:40 PM
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You didn't quote anything about how they argue it though . Beyond that quote you only have notions , you need to know how its normalised due to which attitudes .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:31 PM
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I already have my notions on what I believe a "rape culture" is, This is what I'm talking about. There is a perception there that its about having notions about what it is and once you have notion, then you know what it is and can debate based on notions . Its not, if you want to debate about it , find out what it is instead of arguing about notions of what it is. Its an absurd way to go about debating about anything . Im not going to get into an internet argument based on notions , neither shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:17 PM
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I think people that want to debate about it are responsible for finding out what it is themselves .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:07 PM
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You are saying sexual assault is normalized , like the feminists are saying . In your mind its ridiculous for someone to be bothered about a stranger just groping anothers genitals and its just part of normal life . edited for clarity .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 10:26 PM
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General population surveys about rape don't ask people if they were stared at for too long and then count it as a rape . This is the sort of clusterfuck Im talking about ... all this talk about "rape culture" and no one knowing what they are talking about .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 10:19 PM
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When they are saying "just be nice" they are talking about people like me being nicer to them instead of being the way I am / was (i'm one the so called "assholes" in the nice guys perception / narrative) . They aren't saying that someone they are not attracted to can suddenly become attractive by being nice , that would be absurd . Or Which is also likely they are giving advice based on what they do ... women start being extra nice to guys they want , then like the nice guys get resentful when …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 10:07 PM
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lol :)
/r/MensRights10/08/15 10:02 PM
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No I'm not justifying it , is does not mean ought . I never at any point said I support assault, I something else entirely .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 09:58 PM
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The mistake is misreading it as meaning being nice alone generates sexual attraction .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 09:56 PM
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I never said its ok to physically assault someone you idiot. You argue like a feminist .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 09:45 PM
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Discuss Nobody there knew what they were talking about . How do you know only 10% of rapes are reported if the other's aren't reported?" Reported in this context means reported to the police . To look at the disparity between rapes and reported rapes , they use surveys of the general population v's the number of rapes reported to the police . "Because they seek help at women's centers." No, see above . "So they actually are reported." No, reported in this context means to reported to the police …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 09:42 PM
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So you are down with the whole sexual assault is normalized belief , that mra's tend to say doesn't exist .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 09:27 PM
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Roosh said rape on private property should be legalized which is why he is being attacked , heartiste is a white supremacist operation . Keep posting this shit here , but don't complain when the media reports on /r/mensright being racist and pro rape .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 09:24 PM
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You are totally fine with men sexually assaulting you .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 09:21 PM
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Yeah , she is assaulting people . And women get away can with it , and those men seem grateful (the whole men are lucky when it happens to them thing ) . Just the way gender is weird and there are double standards . You avoided the question . Is a random man or woman that you don't want kissing you just kissing you ok with you?
/r/MensRights10/08/15 09:13 PM
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Fair enough , the guy just assaulted someone on camera . Do you think its all good for random guys to grab and kiss you or would you think its a sexual assault?
/r/MensRights10/08/15 08:54 PM
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your bitchesuck comment makes it look like you are srs or the like trying to make the sub look like its full of hatful idiots .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 08:32 PM
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Why are you here?
/r/MensRights10/08/15 04:33 PM
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If enenim is so alpha, why was his girlfriend getting fucked by the bigger gangster guys and he was with a poor quality skank who he allowed to make his life hell ? Why is he never linked to quality women , despite all his success ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 12:10 PM
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Chris Brown was raped as a child by women . Rihanna was beating Chris while he was driving a car. Then he lost it and beat her . Were the genders reversed , Chris would have been a feminist hero .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 12:00 PM
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"fembot" - it sounds like a word an 8 year old would use .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 09:37 AM
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So we are condemning the throwing of beer as retaliation for saying rape should be legal on private property , ROOSH V is the idiot here , followed closely by the feminists .
/r/MensRights10/08/15 09:34 AM
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Fair enough, what is the point in posting about it here ?
/r/MensRights09/08/15 09:07 PM
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Its people reading some writing by someone who is mentally ill , and mocking them . Sounds like the male version of a rad fem , nothing to do with us really . edit - I searched for a section of the text , nothing came up - so it looks like fiction but , there are idiots on that mgtow forum that do write nonsense like that .
/r/MensRights09/08/15 06:46 PM
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PUA who said things to deliberately provoke people provoked people . Nothing to do with us really ...
/r/MensRights09/08/15 06:16 PM
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They count self harm as suicide attempt , women are more likely to have bpd and so are more likely to cut to regulate emotions ... and get counted in these surveys as having attempted suicide .
/r/MensRights09/08/15 03:52 PM
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Ah ok, sorry :)
/r/MensRights09/08/15 03:49 PM
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I do admire the way hes handling it though .
/r/MensRights09/08/15 02:54 PM
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"Fembots" , "beta male simps" - the whole lot of them are infantile , both the feminists and roosh v and his supporting wannabe "alpha males".
/r/MensRights09/08/15 02:38 PM
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The is the feminist rape culture thing . Its something that is taught and fanned through sexual repression , not something thats actually true or inherent in men . Its similar to the idea that man cannot be raped and if they are and didn't like it there must be something wrong with them , because men supposedly always want sex.
/r/MensRights09/08/15 09:20 AM
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It sounds a bit silly when you are imagining what one and any given natural would do / think ... as if you somehow have access to the inner workings of many minds at once and they work like the borg .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 02:02 AM
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Women have been doing that female red pill stuff and sharing strategies for a long time anyway. PC people just freak out and hate when a small group men on reddit start acting more like women have been .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 02:00 AM
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idk why this is a big deal ... its a fair point . Men business dress codes are not a good fit for summer, while women's are .
/r/MensRights09/08/15 01:41 AM
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Cool promo . Whoever wrote it does deserve to be laughed at , hard - or pitied . The double standard there is this person is only the equivalent of what you could find on radfem hub and the like ... but thats flying under the radar
/r/MensRights09/08/15 01:38 AM
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You are promoting dishonest feminist propaganda that deliberately misrepresents abuse as gendered . So you promote what you call patriarchy and rape culture , and so does feminism . Manboobz has been caught using dishonest feminist "academic" sources (kimmel) designed to minimize and distort the truth about domestic violence .
/r/MensRights08/08/15 11:40 PM
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Not that I support only men having the vote . Their in group bias , being prone to support fascist and religious ideology ... there is a feminist paper or book I can't remember which that strongly implies that women have difficulty with universal fairness .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 11:54 AM
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Politically correct people hate men that behave more like women .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 11:40 AM
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Im not dictating any sort of speech code . I just pointing out the inconsistency in the post I was responding too.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 07:00 PM
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Not blue pill but here are a few useful tips for red pillers . Don't have sex negative / red pill attitudes about women having sex , this way no one will be motivated to lie to you and you will have better communication . Don't have the mentality that pussy is so special that a low mileage one is worth paying through the nose for , this way people will be less motivated to lie to you . If she seems great , suspend that judgment until you see her first freak out / temper loss / tantrum . Avoid an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 08:34 AM
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I know what it means and how its used . Its just foolish to claim that its not sexist to use it like when it clearly is . Calling someone a dick, as if a dick is bad thing also is .
/r/MensRights07/08/15 08:02 AM
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How can it not be sexist when its a vagina as an insult ?
/r/MensRights07/08/15 06:58 AM
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think that sometimes it is women not being used to equal treatment, this frequently seems to be 18-something 'princesses' who have never been told no or that what they're doing is wrong. Its more wide spread than that . https://uwspace.uwaterloo.ca/bitstream/handle/10012/6958/Yeung_Amy.pdf?sequence=1
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:54 AM
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Yes, there is a study that proves it .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 06:49 AM
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Generally the mrm for some reason disagrees with objections to rape jokes , so we disqualify ourselves from objecting to jokes like that .
/r/MensRights06/08/15 07:57 PM
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If someone here is calling women cunts its either an swj sock puppet or a noobie that thinks its normal here.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 04:25 PM
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Blue pillers dont object the fact that any woman exposed to female culture will know what dread game is. It only bothers them if men might learn the same things in a sub culture .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 01:04 PM
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By what it is , men becoming more concerned with what were women's interests , sexualizing themselves , being concerned with presentation and relationships etc. Queer eye for the straight guy is a television show that can be argued is part of meterosexualism - but it doesn;t define it .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 08:01 PM
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Can you fuck off with this dishonest drivel? Even un my dad's generation and my generation, we never see men as rapists I never said all men are rapists you imbecile . Typically rapists have been seen as masculine people (men) and victims as feminine people . Do you really expect me to believe you grandfather didn't think rapists were men , what did he think, that they were women , or giraffes ? Stop wasting my time with your poorly thought out and dishonest crap . Ok you win, masculinity is pre…
/r/MensRights05/08/15 12:53 PM
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You said stupid shit . Metersexual is borderline gay, is what you said ... does that men straight men like david beckam or gaylubeoil and his friends in that bathroom selfie are nearly homosexual? No it doesn't . It would have been considered gay not so long ago, but not now .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 12:51 PM
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So, so what? Metrosexall doesn't men gay .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:13 AM
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Im not thinking queer eye for the straight guy. I talking about metersexualim,
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:12 AM
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Metro doesn't mean gay .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:11 AM
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It means men becoming more like women. For example, men making cosmo for men .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 11:10 AM
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They saw rapists as men and not women .
/r/MensRights05/08/15 11:09 AM
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Im not reading paragraphs of contradictions and dishonesty .
/r/MensRights05/08/15 11:09 AM
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Im not talking about being gay. Metrosexual does not mean gay . David Beckham, for example is metrosexual .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:49 PM
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No shit, but it became associated with gay culture for a reason. Most metro products aren't gay at all, they are in very masculine packaging - the face creams and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:49 PM
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Redpill at its core is about self-improvement, for your own enjoyment. I guess there is some overlap if you like shaving all your body hair, using excessive skin care products to end up looking like a woman. You don't have to end up looking like a woman . Men can have cosmo for men, with all the same concerns and topics , like /r/trp without looking like a woman. Look at the picture GLO posts of him and friends, yes looks like homoeritica and they spend as much time on their look as women, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:17 PM
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Metro isn't being gay . It just means mens interests become more like womens . You're basically saying that if you work out, and hope that your work will attract beautiful women, that you're Metro. Im saying that if men now have the male equivalent of cosmo its an indication of men becoming more metro and a blurring of gender roles .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 07:13 PM
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I've no problem with it , I'm just asking if men creating whats basically cosmo for men is part of a general move towards metrosexuality across society .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:42 PM
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Metrosexual would be anything more typically female . Like being preoccupied with how you look , and relationships , getting a quality mate ... like cosmopolitan but masculine .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:40 PM
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It doesn't necessarily mean looking fabulous or gay . That would be the extreme end , with the male center becoming more metro than it was previously .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 05:36 PM
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I I was trying to say gay, I would have said gay .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:44 PM
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No metro is just men taking on womens interests, it doesn't have to be actually looking gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 04:43 PM
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My response is: So what? It's not relevant to anything. The fact that men engage in bad behavior has nothing to do with women's bad behavior. The point is that behaviour isn't "mens" or "womens". Its human behaviour . People will have sex with hotter people, people will cheat . Accept reality and move on red pill .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 03:15 PM
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Did I say, a war vet won't get empathy because a spoiled whiny brat liar has a womb? Yes, in the next sentence you say the same thing, in a different way using different language. I was telling you, women will be catered first between two human beings in the same distress. So men get less empathy because they are men , according to you. Please fuck off with your incoherent arguments .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 03:07 PM
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So, in our grandparents' generation and my dad's generation, they see men as rapists? They saw rapists as men not women .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:58 PM
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I said masculinity has nothing to do with empathy. I fucking know you said that . You also say men get mess empathy because they are men and that needs to changed , that it shouldnt be changed and that its impossible to change .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:57 PM
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That, is NOT a public perception. So its not the public perception that only men rape . Fuck off idiot . Stop bothering me with this incoherent shit .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:41 PM
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I am denying this has jack shit to do with how men's rights are taken away. So you are now talking about something other than the topic. Which is that mra's and feminists both talk about aspects of being masculine that hurt men. And you are wrong, these ideas about masculinity and femininity are what feminists exploit in order to push their laws , thats why they can have horrible shit happening to men which would never be tolerated the other way around.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:37 PM
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Soldiers are masculine. They come home from war, with lost limbs. So, our empathy switch turns off due to their masculinity? But between two soldiers, one woman, one man, with limited resources, care will be given to the woman. You said masculinity has nothing to do with unequal empathy and empathy is given equally to people in need .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:34 PM
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Men in unfortunate situations will get empathy. Men, as a gender, won't be denied of empathy just because they are men. You gave multiple examples of men not getting empathy because they are men and you said its because women have a womb .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:33 PM
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You are saying "man up" is harmful. Thats not saying all of it is harmful is it? Its only saying that its harmful when men need help and empathy and society says man up . I said, these problems originate from (1)(1) a political movement that use false narrative to push legislative changes that were unchecked And you said the stem from evolutionary biology . no public awareness of these atrocities going on (3) no channel to get the truth out. All of which has nothing to do with masculinity. You a…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 02:32 PM
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Saying masculinity is harmful does not help, because that is not where these problems originate. Nobody says its all harmful you idiot , mra's and feminists argue that there are harmful aspects of it. that is not where these problems originate. Then why do you keep saying the problem is men not getting enough empathy and support and it originates from the perception that women are more valuable because they have wombs . Can you please fuck off .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 01:58 PM
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And that, is how everything wrong that has done to family court and college kangaroo court happened, right? Because men are suppose to be self-reliant that they are denied of rights to cross examine their accuser and why burden of proof is on the accused? Where is the connection? Off topic . And the connection is the perception that masculine people rape , and that women are victims . That it doesn't matter if innocent men are harmed in the protection of women .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 01:55 PM
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People, of both genders, will get empathy when being unfortunate in life. You said men will not get as much empathy and help and thats a problem. Now you are going to contradict what you just said . Do you have more empathy for a woman crying they are being harassed by tweets or more empathy for a war vet not getting enough medical care? But yes, between two in need, a female will the get the care. It's not going to change.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 01:43 PM
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They are different. For the exact same distress, a woman will get the help. So? You said masculinity plays no role in how much empathy and help a man gets , that contradicts your argument . Now can you fuck off?
/r/MensRights04/08/15 01:41 PM
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(1) men's current problems are not created by perception of men. Right, you say the perception that men man up and look after themselves while women get empathy and help, has not bearing on it happening . (2) making men to abandon "harmful" masculine traits will only make matters worse for men. You advocated that a strong man abandon the present role no equal empathy and help and start advocating for equal empathy and help for men . Which you also say will make matters worse and that this should…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 01:25 PM
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Since when did I evacuate teaching kids to have less empathy for this or that gender? You are supportive of the idea that baby boys are given less attention than girls, while boys are conditioned to man up . Then you deny that this has any connection to women being given services and empathy, while the services and empathy aren't given to men.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 01:22 PM
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It is not off topic because blaming all these issues back to perception of men, or expectation of men, is very harmful. So it souldnt be pointed out that because society teaches that men needs less empathy and women which you advocate teaching at an early age , it then opens the door to men being treated with less empathy and women more .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:53 PM
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How is separating masculinity and empathy being dishonest? You need to claim there is no connection between the amount of empathy a man and woman will get on the basis they are men and women . So you try to make that claim , while in the next breath contradicting yourself .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:49 PM
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I also said, trying to make society to look at men as women in need ( Which is what you think is getting rid of the "harm" ) will make matters even worse. So? This is just you agreeing with feminists that men are punished by society if they ask for help and are seen as being like women / not manning up . Its just another example of you contradicting yourself .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:48 PM
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I said, masculinity and empathy are not connected you idiot. How is that contradictory? For the nth time because you keep talking about how society affords less empathy to men and more to women and giving reasons for why it happens . Can you fuck off?
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:20 PM
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Off topic.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:03 PM
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You fucking idiot. I said mra's and feminists have a different approach to it . You dishonest clown.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:01 PM
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Masculinity has zero shit to do with male problems. You keep pointing out that men aren't seen as worthy of help and empathy , you contradictory idiot .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:00 PM
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Look up where I said I agreed with giving boys drugs for no reason? I never said it you fucking idiot.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:59 AM
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Good luck agreeing with them putting boys on meds to behave more like girls. Fuck off you dishonest, false accusing clown . Every fucking post, just like an SJW .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:53 AM
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One of the underlying reasons family courts are cruel to men in ways they would not be too women is differences in empathy and help allowed to men and women due to socially enforced masculinity and femininity . Its also why men that complain are seen as funny and less than men .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:50 AM
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Yes you are uneducated on the subject . I dont care if you didnt want it pointed out you are contradictory , its impossible to have a rational conversation with someone that contradicts themselves from one sentence to the next .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:48 AM
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This is just stupid , all you are doing is describing how masculinity backfires on men and showing how badly society treats men who deviate from prescribed masculine roles . You dont know it, because you don't know enough about what you are talking about , but you are describing how socialized masculine gender roles harm men (what feminists call toxic masculinity) . While at the same time you are denying that this harms men .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:36 AM
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I quoted your misandrist spin . in which the woman initiates with a slap or a push, and the man responds with a haymaker. And paraphrased what the researchers described happening inside the study its mainly women hitting first, and when women are injured - typically the man hits back , then the woman ups the ante, then the man responds again and so on until she is injured ..
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:34 AM
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No Im not going back to the beginning of this conversation and starting again by pointing out where you are contradictory .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:32 AM
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You are the one who denied "toxic masculinity" to be a feminist narrative, and I even let it slide. No you lying idiot , I never said that . I pointed out that mra's for a long time have been talking about harmful aspects of masculinity. For example, men not getting enough help and empathy . Every single post you make to me is dishonest and incoherent .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 11:04 AM
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Again you dishonestly dodge taking responsibility for contradicting yourself in post after post . The conversation was never about "elebrating masculinity and celebrating empathy for others" you idiot. The conversation was about the meaning of toxic masculinity and the way expecting men to man up backfires when men need help and empathy and its not there because they are expected to man up .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:48 AM
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There are lots of good sources in /r/mensrightslinks that can be used to make decent posts here .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:41 AM
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It will probably be correct for our level of technology at the time . The traditional breeding needs to go because it produces too many people for the future .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/15 10:22 AM
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This is just an informed, sexist rant and its as hateful as the worst of what feminists produce .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:16 AM
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What do you mean there is hope - hope for what?
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:15 AM
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This is what you said . in which the woman initiates with a slap or a push, and the man responds with a haymaker. Which is exactly how feminists have been spinning the stats on women's abuse or decades . This is what the study concludes . its mainly women hitting first, and when women are injured - typically the man hits back , then the woman ups the ante, then the man responds again and so on until she is injured .
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:11 AM
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The civil rights act was supposed to give benefits to minorities . A racist senator and white feminism together pushed to have women included as a minority at the last min, as most of the population are women and most of the population white , wealthy white women sucked up most of the benefits .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 05:55 PM
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Its an established part of the female mainstream .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 05:53 PM
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Exactly .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 05:52 PM
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in which the woman initiates with a slap or a push, and the man responds with a haymaker. Where you getting this man hating , sexist nonsense ... feminists? The study concludes its mainly women hitting first, and when women are injured - typically the man hits back , then the woman ups the ante, then the man responds again and so on until she is injured . Your pushing and slapping delicate maiden / male sociopath scenario doesn't really exist in the research because its so unlikely .
/r/MensRights03/08/15 03:33 PM
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You depicted two irrational extremes . From this deluded person . From day one, we were told about the beauty of love. That somewhere there is somebody who will love of us for who we are, stick with us through thick and thin. We retained our hope even in our worst times we would find our unicorn. But then we realized unicorns don't exsist. Instead of finding our soulmate we were used as emotional tampons in the friendzone. To this deluded person . why should we love the oppodite sex? Women offer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:58 AM
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Your grandfather was soft compared to previous generations .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:49 AM
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No one regards a potential life partner in the manner of a car. In terms of virginity they have . For a long time non virgins were seen as unfit for marriage . You can often hear red pillers using the archaic language associated with it - "damaged goods" for example .
/r/MensRights03/08/15 11:15 AM
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You mean like cosmo and a million other mainstream female sources? You don't notice the female equivalent to red pill because its everywhere and normalized .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 11:06 AM
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Yeah , if we kept the traditional breeding system, civilization would be in serious trouble due to overpopulation . In 40 years we will need far fewer workers than we have .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 10:18 AM
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http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020
/r/MensRights03/08/15 10:05 AM
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A feminist would probably answer that historically men's virginity wasn't comidified , so the value thing doesn't apply to men . Its better to ask feminists directly than it is to ask mra's to answer for them .
/r/MensRights03/08/15 10:03 AM
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Its just feminists citing other feminists and creating evidence by citation ... the DV debate is essentially won . Feminists argued that the cts was misleading because it doesn't show the context, they were right ... when context was tested it turned out women were more aggressive and it was more often men acting in self defense . So the feminist view of DV is the opposite of the truth .
/r/MensRights03/08/15 09:21 AM
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The average I think , is between 2 and 9 .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/15 09:09 AM
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/r/askfeminists or /r/askfeminismformen . People here don't know the ins and outs of feminist positions . I'm pretty sure its to do with comidifying women, virgins being supposed to be "worth more" than non virgins , like they are new cars verses second hand cars .
/r/MensRights03/08/15 09:07 AM
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The trp threshold for lots of partners is the mid to high average , so technically they are right - by trp standards . Its just that most people wouldn't consider those numbers to be high .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 08:03 AM
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Read these things carefully, they are offering men help to stop being abusers .
/r/MensRights01/08/15 01:46 PM
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You haven't read much about her , the leftist men that were initially funding her, wouldn't provide funding for male victims . She did have male staff , then feminists took over and no male people over 14 were allowed be there .
/r/MensRights01/08/15 10:12 AM
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Yeah Im not really reading you anymore . You keep contradicting yourself , and wont take responsibility for it .
/r/MensRights01/08/15 10:10 AM
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patriarchal gender norms. Feminism is more often involved in maintaining these norms . For example feminists cover up and omit information on women's abuse and shame men who talk about it . And you cannot show a trend of feminism of campaigning and spending for men .
/r/MensRights01/08/15 09:27 AM
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Im not trying to impress anyone with my fitness here , glo who does try to do that , started a pissing contest because I said I was interested in fitness too , when basically accused of lying I pointed out examples that would prove I'm interested in fitness - for example the ability to do things like pistol squats which only the fit can do (strength, flexibility, balance, coordination ) . TRP is meterosexual, its all about how you look, dating , relationships and how to have sex , prior to meter…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 08:29 AM
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Just show her any feminist genital mutilation info . It will leave out any mention of mgm .
/r/MensRights01/08/15 07:47 AM
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I don't exercise to impress people at the gym, or pose in mirrors , or for women .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 06:47 AM
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15 pullups is just at the point where you can can start training your one arm pullups . One arm pullups are an elite level exercise .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/15 06:46 AM
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You didn't list any "womens" issues, you listed human issues that effect women less than men , and listed some made up issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 10:57 PM
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try /r/mensrights
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 08:26 PM
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What "womens issues", the made up ones or the ones that effect men far more?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 08:15 PM
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Read up on what rape culture is and work from there . http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Rape_culture
/r/MensRights31/07/15 07:59 PM
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because they have a policy to instantly bad any non feminist and terf posters . Got to /r/askfeminists if you have a serious question , although /u/demmian and his sock puppet mods will often ban you from /r/askfeminists if you break the rule in /r/feminism .
/r/MensRights31/07/15 06:58 PM
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IDK what sort of consequences they want ... a stoning ? I think to comes down this - women that have sex with the hot guys instead of me should be punished in some way .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 06:55 PM
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Miranda is the only one that would be deemed acceptable by red pill sexual appetite , and lifestyle wise .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 05:59 PM
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When Erin Pizzey's shelter accepted men, men went. If her refuge movement had not been hijacked, after 40 years, we will know both men and women are victims. The men she asked for funding would only fund female victims .
/r/MensRights31/07/15 05:56 PM
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And this is due to the way society views and socializes masculinity .
/r/MensRights31/07/15 05:54 PM
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Why? being fit isn't about what you like talking a picture in a mirror and how over weight relative to your body frame you are . If I posted a pic, which Im not going to , it would be of an athletic physique , you should already know that being into fitness and given the type of exercises I'm talking about . There is more to fitness than , well putting on lots of weight for the sake of vanity is actually the opposite of fitness because it fucks your heart .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 05:51 PM
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Abortion access, Women dominate and have privilege in law relating to reproduction, men have no opt out. FGM, Mgm is a larger problem . wage gap, Women make more than men for the same work, they only earn less when they start working less on the strength of a passive income from a man. maternity + paternity leave, Women get maternity leave, men don't get paternity leave . fighting discrimination in the workplace, What discrimination? hyper-sexualization in media, Equivalent exists for men . dome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:34 PM
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That has no relation to anything Ive been saying, you dont understand this conversation . Both male vet and bieber will get less empathy than equivalent women, on account of how society percieves and treats masculinity and femininity
/r/MensRights31/07/15 04:28 PM
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Empathy is given to the less fortunate which has zero jack shit to do with masculinity. Unless you are a male vet or dv abuse victim or similar, in which case you will receive less empathy and support on account of how society views masculinity .
/r/MensRights31/07/15 04:25 PM
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I am going to say this again masculinity and empathy are two different things. Unless you are a man and then find society doesn't recognize you deserve as much empathy as a woman on account of the societal view of masculinity . Or you are a baby boy who is not given as much empathy because he is to be socialized as masculine .
/r/MensRights31/07/15 04:19 PM
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Ok well you and your bffs should consider using hair products to improve your selfies .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:15 PM
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I dont use meditation any more because I think most of these terms have been sullied by hippy dippy types that buy into woo woo , I use "inquiry" instead .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:13 PM
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Can we get back on track, this is about your metrosexuality. How much do you spend on your appearance in a month, do you use hair styling products and protein supplements?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:08 PM
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Unless you are a man and then find society doesn't recognize you deserve as much empathy as a woman on account of the societal view of masculinity . Or you are a baby boy who is not given as much empathy because his to be socialized as masculine .
/r/MensRights31/07/15 04:06 PM
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I didn't say I was in an elite pull up squad .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 04:04 PM
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20 is their perfect score , they don't all come out with prefect scores, those that do can go on to elite squads and so on. And your pullup in the vid isnt a pull up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:59 PM
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haha, ok .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:54 PM
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No women in NYC date around ... if you go back into the history of american dating - back in the twenties american women doing it . It wasn't Mr. Big or CTC ... they called him BOC ... big man on campus . They divided people into leagues and dated around , most settled with a good provider and couldn't have the BOC. Women were doing this long before SATC.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:44 PM
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You're welcome . What did you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:40 PM
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Thanks, best answer yet .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:29 PM
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I don't mean anything to do with believing flying entities or some such, I just mean ways to manage and improve your own spirit and mindset , or even heal trauma .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:28 PM
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Thanks .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:21 PM
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Like have sex with a lot of guys and then find one who will pay to settle down with ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:20 PM
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That what are know as red pill truths are out there and fully accepted when its women saying it .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:20 PM
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15 pullups is late intermediate / borderline elite level . Are you lb for lb strong enough with enough flexibility and balance to perform pistol squats? There is more to fitness than vanity .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:18 PM
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I am , my pull up records is 15 dead hang pull ups , can also do one leg pistol squats .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:03 PM
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Show a feminist blog that does more .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 03:01 PM
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Maybe he was just assessing his progress in duck face making .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:59 PM
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Its entertainment that involves what red pillers call red pill truths that gained a cult like following among women .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:57 PM
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Nope, if it heals, gives you useful knowledge on how your mind works and brings you natural joy its not bs . Have you never closed your eyes and used breathing to relax?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:56 PM
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I am a fitness dude, and dont care so much about vanity, and I don't pose in the mirror with guys making duck faces while taking a selfie like chicks do .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:38 PM
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ROT isn't mens rights , you information is coming from David Futrelle . As I've said a few times now and this will be last time They have done lots of activism and are breaking mens issues into the mainstream , they also provide a good counter to feminist lies in the media . Everytime AVFM has done something controversial , the movement has grown exponentially . Were it not for avfm, there would be no conversation about mens rights in the mainstream . Show a feminist blog that's done more .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:35 PM
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Your picture in the mirror .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:33 PM
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And you are a metrosexual ... it doesn't matter . Point is the show uses dynamics that rp often talks about .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:31 PM
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That women strongly identified with and was seen as empowering for women .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:22 PM
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They have done lots of activism and are breaking mens issues into the mainstream , they also provide a good counter to feminist lies in the media . It sounds like you get your (miss) information from David Futrelle .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:20 PM
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Feminists want women to be able to do whatever the fuck they want. The end. That would include all the examples he gave .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:09 PM
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Something tells me you have a bias ... /r/mensrights is like a feminist sub , just bigger and discussing more serious problems and discrimination . AVFM is like a feminist blog, that does much more activism and its far larger than any independent feminist blog .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:55 PM
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They get a huge amount done . They have been instrumental in the mainstream of men's rights issues. Unless you are comparing it to say, feminism which is a multi billion dollar industry ad hardly a fair comparison .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:49 PM
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Its already out there , its just that women can say it and men are attacked for saying it .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:16 PM
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AVFM have just expanded to provide non mrm related journalism and a new type of psychology. Red Pill as in trp won't really give a shit about AVFM . Elam views them as confused pussy beggars that see their personal worth in who they are fucking , and /r/trp tends to view mra's as manginas .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 01:07 PM
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Its when masculinity has a negative outcome , for example I grew up in an area where masculinity was tied into alcoholism , you were more of a man or a real man if you drank a lot . Or the expectation that you stoically take abuse and don't ask for help in society . Things like that .
/r/MensRights31/07/15 12:44 PM
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IDK, I've been addicted to the conflict myself for some years myself . I guess thats the answer there, addiction .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 12:37 PM
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Because spiritual practices heal and bring useful knowledge and natural joy, while organized religion is about control and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 12:37 PM
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Your problem is differing attitudes to abortion . If you are with someone who is against it , your agreement needs to reflect that . For example , if you know your partner is against abortion , the decent thing to do is agree that if it happens you will deal with it instead of aborting it . Thats how a society with fair parental abortion rights for men would operate anyhow , IMO.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 11:51 AM
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If you are an alpha on trp , you are "alpha" to lower ranking betas and omegas , so not really alpha in the larger picture , more like a successful beta .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 11:40 AM
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Those quotes are obviously sexist, and one is racist.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 11:35 AM
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Debunking here https://www.np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3en8rr/hello_kia_and_good_job_im_based_lurker_im/
/r/MensRights30/07/15 11:34 AM
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Framing traditional gender roles for Men as toxic masculinity is one of the stupidest fucking things i've seen feminists do. MRAs do it too , thats why we are anti traditional gynocentricism , and for men getting equal help and empathy when they need it .
/r/MensRights30/07/15 11:04 AM
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You re right in that feminists femsplain mens experience , to say this exists you also have to say man mansplaing in its origional meaning exists too . But do you know what toxic masculinity is according to feminists (it was a male feminist who coined the term )? Go to /r/feminismformen or /r/askfeminists , find out what it means and then make arguments about it .
/r/MensRights30/07/15 10:54 AM
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I've been sexually harassed . I have a better example involving a male friend who wore womens leggings , what we call yoga pants now - for around a year . He was routinely groped by women and the police even threatened him with arrest . Just because he was displaying himself the way women routinely do .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 10:12 AM
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Spirituality isn't bs , organized religion is .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:34 AM
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Some of the the other posters have already covered it .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:33 AM
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Alphas would have successful betas following them , and the lower ranking beta's and omegas follow the successful beta's .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:24 AM
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Yeah men can have orbiters , they can get resentful and vengeful , especially if he gets out of it an uses them for something physical .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:50 AM
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Half? Its a few successful betas and then lower ranking beta's and omegas . People who are alpha don't go to forums to learn how to emulate themselves .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:49 AM
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They both made fair points . I dont think he trounced anyone , in fact it looked a little like he was trying to be shocking ... which he probably was , he loves to exploit the freedom to speak that being a gay man gives him. I heard him make really ignorant comments about the genocide in Ireland recently too.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 08:39 AM
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Maybe you could have just asked what its like to be in a good relationship .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 08:35 AM
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Society hears women in distress, but hears men in leadership. If you want people to start looking at these problems, it has to come from powerful leadership, not from making boys into a bunch of men expecting help. So you are now saying that men should be listened to in distress. But should be conditioned to suck it up as children and not expect help . And somehow the women are going to conditioned by powerful men to go against that conditioning and perception of men as people that suck it up . …
/r/MensRights29/07/15 10:12 PM
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I reject "toxic masculinity", there is nothing wrong with masculinity Except for the part you say is bad , not getting enough help and empathy, women despising men who show weakness and all that . Empathy has nothing to do was masculinity. A masculine person gets less empathy and support than a feminine one . If you are masculine no one cares .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 10:09 PM
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this isn't /r/askfeminists , but if you obviously haven't done any research on what it is and the snootily make demands they wont be long about banning you , if you are sincere you will prolly get a good explanation of what they are talking about . Or try /r/feminismformen It pointless asking here, you will get as many different answers as you will answers and none of them will be right .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 09:58 PM
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Saying masculinity is positive isn't contradicting. I asked you why you just started rambling about leadership skills , in between all the incidents of you flatly contradicting yourself. I said masculinity is positive Yes you say its all positive, and you also give lots of examples of being negative , then deny there anything negative about it .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 08:11 PM
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Then why did you say earlier that strong men in leadership need to point out that men need more empathy and support? You just change your positions to whatever suits you at the time, not caring of what you are saying contradicts something you said earlier .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 08:07 PM
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Why are you talking about leaderships skills in between contradicting yourself? Leadership skills are positive masculinity .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 08:04 PM
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Men not sucking up will get even less empathy than they are now. Earlier you were arguing that there is no expectation for men to stay quiet when they need help , now you are pointing to social pressure on men to stay quiet and suck it up. Can you not see how much you are contradicting yourself?
/r/MensRights29/07/15 07:57 PM
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So now you are pointing to elements of the masculine gender role that are toxic to men . You are ridiculous . You contradict yourself over and over and over.
/r/MensRights29/07/15 07:52 PM
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Men will be more miserable if men are not taught to suck it up. You really are stupid, if you change everyones perception of men, society will react differently when men need help .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 07:46 PM
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That means boys do not need empathy? That when others feel empathy for them, they should reject? It means that if teach that boys suck it up instead of getting empathy you end up with a society in which men cannot get the empathy they need when they need it .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 07:44 PM
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Of course I can separate empathy from masculinity , if you what has having difficulty with nuances like that manning up can be positive and also simultaneously backfire . For example not asking for help and society having less empathy for men that need help .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 07:43 PM
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This sub is focused on what feminists call "micro aggressions".
/r/MensRights29/07/15 06:24 PM
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Self reliance is a survival tool for men. Men manning up, will make men happier You keep saying that its a problem when men need help and they are expected to be self reliant . Can you not see how retarded you are when you are contradicting yourself at every turn?
/r/MensRights29/07/15 06:11 PM
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Since when do we teach men do not need empathy? When they are children you idiot , when they teach boys to suck it up .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 06:08 PM
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Again your nonsense . Teach everyone that boys don't need as much empathy and help when they are babies , then try to get people to change that when its grown men , while continuing to teach everyone the reverse from birth. You do not have a consistent argument . Go learn and think first, you dont even know the meaning of the terms you have been trying to use .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 05:12 PM
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One like ours, where its also recognized that women have a lesser capacity for fairness .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:42 AM
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Define the sort of answers you are expecting to hear .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:36 AM
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Socially liberal that acknowledges those things about women, and their legislation and claims are carefully checked . IDK if that clarifies it enough for you .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:28 AM
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I would prefer patriarchy by default because from what I've seen in politics and law women generally don't produce fair legislation, use extremely dishonest tactics and have a strong ingroup bias , which might explain the other examples - and so are more likely to discriminate .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 10:20 AM
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Assholes attract assholes .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 07:47 AM
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Your theories on the origins are irrelevant . We are talking about socially enforced roles , taught after birth and how they back fire on men later in life .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 07:12 AM
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to provide my ego with more substance giving me a more assertive, confident position in daily life Same thing girls with low self esteem that sleep around do , for the same reasons. The rest is to do with red pill ideology . Under ordinary circumstances , generally people that are having sex are having it for the same reasons .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:50 AM
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You did blame women's lack of empathy back to men. No I did not , you just don't understand what we are talking about . When a mother, father and society teach their boy and girl the boy doesn't get as much empathy and doesn't feel as much and when these beliefs carry on later in in life , its not the fault of that boy , boys or men in general . If you knew your topic, you this nonsense wouldn't be going on and on .
/r/MensRights29/07/15 06:46 AM
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Think about why you have sex , then apply it to women that do .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 01:36 PM
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Its the equivalent of dating around and having fwb's .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 01:32 PM
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Ok fair enough .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 12:32 PM
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imme a break. You are blaming women's lack of empathy for men, as part of male behavior? No , you think that because you don't really understated this conversation .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 12:00 PM
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Its women and men, and society that socialize children . Not just men . You dont really understand this conversion .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 11:59 AM
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Why not just say it's because they lack empathy towards men when they should not, end of story. Presumably because it would be useful to your argument to have no deeper understating of why.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 10:02 AM
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Help won't come. You'll need strong men in leadership to tell others, "Those men are suffering, ignoring them is inhume." So he would need to step out side socially acceptable masculine gender norms ... and this is off topic . We aren't taking about a strategy to change it .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 10:00 AM
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But as adults they realized it . It wasnt taught as babies like you earlier said .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:58 AM
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You said we shouldn't teach baby boys that if boys cry they will not be listened to . You have also said men need to learn to strenuously and vocally say they wont accept that as adults .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:56 AM
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So men realize on it later now ... earlier on you acknowledged it was taught as babies .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:54 AM
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That is what you wrote. Look at it again. There is nothing wrong with what I said , women and society in general enforce toxic aspects of masculinity .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:49 AM
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I never said society ignored men because men are expected to man up Right, because you are denying the obvious connection between the two .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:47 AM
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Saying enough is enough, that men suffering need to be addressed, So there needs to be more help for men and they need to to tell people when they are suffering and for them to listen . is different than catering to baby boys every needs when they cry, which teaches these boys that crying gets help. It will be disastrous. So we should give less help to boys and don't encourage them to ask for help and let others know they are suffering . You are hilarious .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:37 AM
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That is what feminists claim. But I have said it a million times, You have as often pointed to toxic repercussions to manning up - being ignored and there being no empathy .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:33 AM
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You just proved my point. You blame women's lack of empathy for men back to male behavior. No, on societal expectations , conditioning an rules for men . You don't know what toxic masculinity is, it doesn't mean inate male behavior . They are talking about society . Which you are too .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:29 AM
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How many times do I need to repeat this? Society ignoring men have NOTHING to do with masculinity or manning up. So society expecting men to man up and then ignoring men they need help aren't connected ... one is the natural outcome of the other . you aren't using your logic center .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:27 AM
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American Beauty .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:13 AM
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Gwad. The harmful aspect is NOT masculine role So manning up instead of getting help isn't a role expected of men . Do women have masculine role? Nope. So why are they ignoring MRA's plea? Where are women's "toxic masculinity" that made them ignore men in need? Who says that? Manly man? Are soldiers fighting in wars saying vets in Walter Reeds should just man up and take care of themselves? Society generally tells men to man up and look after themselves , it starts after birth . Women having no …
/r/MensRights28/07/15 09:01 AM
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Society tapping into empathy and realize men had been ignored is different than man need to see "manning up" as toxic. Ugh. So society not having empathy for men and ignoring them when they need help because they are expected "man up" , isn't toxic for men .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 08:59 AM
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You have gone off on tangents .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 08:58 AM
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In your replies you often conflated toxic masculinity and all masculinity is toxic . calling it toxic are the feminists to blame all lack of support system back to men. So the say the way men are treated and socialized in some ways is toxic .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 08:57 AM
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When I heard the term, I went to feminist sources and read about it . It doesn't mean all masculinity is toxic.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 08:11 AM
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what do they say about MRAs telling them we have men uncared for? You fucking idiot,. you just said is nonsense that male children dont need to be cared for like female children .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 08:09 AM
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I said, check where "toxic masculinity" originated from and how it is used. You don't know where it originated from or what it really is .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 08:08 AM
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listen to how Millo dismissed "toxic masculinity" and the feminist defended her theory by saying we need to pick up male babies as we do with female babies: You keep saying over and over we need to change how society views helping men you idiot .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 08:07 AM
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Right, you just said I need to go back to my feminist friends .
/r/MensRights28/07/15 08:06 AM
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No, the cause of men being ignored is simply because society ignore men's needs. That is all. Society only listens to men in leaderships and do not listen to men in need. And we have to stop that. Empathy for men ( not much happening but need to happen ), and men's masculinity ( we can keep ), two different things. So you are saying we can change harmful aspects of the socialized masculine role . You keep arguing for what you are arguing against . You want to do away with harmful socially enforc…
/r/MensRights28/07/15 07:44 AM
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You are rambling and throwing out a lot a lot of buzzwords and even a hastag but you dont really know your topic . And you are a group thinker , Im not a feminist, I just have facts that contradict you.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 07:40 AM
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So you say there is nothing wrong with masculinity , is just that one way it plays out isn't much there for the likes of vets and men that need a shelter and that is wrong .
/r/MensRights27/07/15 08:17 PM
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You want me to respond to all that , when you think "toxic masculinity" means all masculinity and that there can be no drawbacks or problems with masculinity . While at the same time you point to problems that stem from societies perception of masculinity .
/r/MensRights27/07/15 08:15 PM
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You are talking about mra tactics to get shelters , thats not what we are talking about .
/r/MensRights27/07/15 03:29 PM
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First you said it came from that experiment on the kid with the botched cric ... you think toxic masculinity means all masculine traits are toxic , you just don't know what you are talking about .
/r/MensRights27/07/15 03:28 PM
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It requires some aspects of them to be abandoned , nobody said all , ever . Such as a real man isnt raped / abused / need help etc
/r/MensRights27/07/15 03:24 PM
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People buying into the whole masculine traits ( which basically mean male traits ) are toxic, No one is saying they all toxic you egit . Toxic masculinity never meant its all toxic . Learn before you argue .
/r/MensRights27/07/15 01:56 PM
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Except the mrm is calling for society to change the masculine role to enable equal empathy for men and for men in need to be helped .
/r/MensRights27/07/15 01:55 PM
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Well , men know successful men are allowed to be angry . We but we are talking about men asking for help , a negative aspect of masculinity .
/r/MensRights27/07/15 01:54 PM
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Again extremes . And for most people its normal operating procedure not to fully open up with anyone they meet women included , its not something comes as a light bulb moment ... its not some great hidden knowledge .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 12:27 PM
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Ok, like I said , you have gone from scarcity , to monk mode which is still scarcity , hence the hard and fast all women are sociopaths thing .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 12:06 PM
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No I don't men amog , I mean the wannbes on the side lines .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 12:04 PM
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Imo , when red pillers take these extreme positions its a strong indication that they are among the ones struggling with scarcity . The ones that aren't are more realistic because they have a mixture of positive and negative experiences to draw from . That said , before I'm put in a extreme box , I do not at all subscribe to niceguyism and never did .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 11:57 AM
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Its pretty irreverent in a conversation where you are talking about socially enforced masculine rules that we are changing , unless your argument is they are biological and we are therefore stuck with them .
/r/MensRights27/07/15 09:03 AM
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Toxic masculinity is invented by feminists to blame everything back to men. Tell me the name of the male feminist who coined the term. And describe how they say it works . The right approach is to embrace masculinity . The right approach is to embrace masculinity and shout that men are not accepting being treated like shit anymore . like the expectation that men man up and take shit . But you said earlier that manning up was all positive . So you are now saying that men should embrace positive a…
/r/MensRights27/07/15 08:59 AM
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Yeah right , you weren't saying things you said that made you look like a total sexist .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:28 PM
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Independently run journals - http://www.newmalestudies.com/OJS/index.php/nms Straus describes funding not being being allowed to honest researchers and even threats made against researcher who publish truthful information on DV . A harvard study was removed from the harvard site because it exposed women as primary DV abusers .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 03:18 PM
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You don't know what you are talking about . There is no "idea that masculinity is harmful and toxic" . There is the idea that aspects of it are and that can be toxic for men , and even people around them . Which the mrm agrees with , but uses different terms to describe .
/r/MensRights26/07/15 01:43 PM
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Your theories are irrelevant to the conversation . Fact is that there are aspects of masculinity that are toxic to men , such as training male children to man up and then that leading to people not recognizing men when they ask for help and people mocking and shaming male victims - this is a socially enforced role .
/r/MensRights26/07/15 01:42 PM
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That study was shown to a be feminist fraud (standard for feminist "science") that proved the opposite of what the feminists claimed it did. They basically tried to erase and hide female privilege . http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2012/04/19/more-on-the-%E2%80%98women-and-children-first%E2%80%99-era-noh/ http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2012/04/18/why-%E2%80%98women-and-children-first%E2%80%99-was-not-a-%E2%80%9Cmyth%E2%80%9D-noh/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:27 AM
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So you are saying that boys are treated one way (masculinity) and girls are another (femininity) and this results in men not being given help . Why are you even arguing with me when you are basically saying elements of masculinity are toxic for men?
/r/MensRights26/07/15 08:07 AM
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As a POSITIVE survival skill. You are now talking about a NEGATIVE, which is about our instincts of ignoring baby boys in need, or ignoring men in need. You still contradicted yourself . And right, so there are positives and negatives to it . You are making the error that masculinity has to be totally positive or negative , there can be no elements of masculinity that are harmful to men , in your opinion . Its pretty narrow and it ignores your argument that men are ignored when they need help . …
/r/MensRights26/07/15 08:05 AM
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You sound like a conspiracy nutjob. Maybe to you and thats understandable , but is been documented and proven in many academic papers so its not a theory . For example, would it be acceptable to uppercut an 8 year old with full force just because he has a butterknife and is angry? Again you framing womens DV as innocent and mens as something else entirely , this is your internalizing of hateful feminist rhetoric . What predictive model are we using? Here is one of the studies on patterns in DV .…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 07:59 AM
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Manning up is taught as babies . Girls are picked up sooner, given more attention , there is more eye contact made with them . And boys are taught that boys don't cry etc , while girls are not . Manning-up is the RESULT of society ignoring men, Earlier you said your dad taught you about manning up .
/r/MensRights26/07/15 07:52 AM
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You are framing womens assaults on men as harmless slaps , women commit severe DV , at very slightly lower rates , higher rates or equal rates depending on which study you look at . The reason you don't know that is that feminism has been deliberately misleading the public for decades . And no , if a woman is the abuser and its reported there is a 50% the victim will be charged , this is due to feminist legislation . And, despite your rhetoric, a vast majority of actually harmful domestic assaul…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 07:46 AM
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Masculinity is a positive quality men have, Nobody said masculinity doesn't have positives. Men being disposable, is a cruel human nature to ignore men's need . You just said masculinity is all positive . You aren't well versed enough for this conversation . Get your ducks in a row .
/r/MensRights26/07/15 07:40 AM
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There are niche strands of feminism that are less hateful and generalizing - the kind that are are deemed anti feminist by mainstream feminists . on the other hand, men have to fear untrue claims about them, e.g. domestic assault. Also the fact that men are more likely to be victims of assault , including domestic assault . The reason you missed that is feminist propaganda which frames family violence as generally male to female , when its overwhelmingly female to male and child . Which is more …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 07:20 AM
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There are niche strands of feminism that are less hateful and generalizing - the kind that are are deemed anti feminist by mainstream feminists .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 07:16 AM
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You are in denial . There is a problem with the male gender role , society expects men to stoically deal with it , while women get help . It starts after birth . Men have to man up while women don't .
/r/MensRights26/07/15 06:46 AM
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The main problem with TRP is that it dresses up easily sex-neutral advice as advice only for men. Same characteristics of feminism and womens relationship advice then , framing problems that everyone has as only womens .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:36 AM
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If judge feminists by the same standards they judge men and red pill , they are worse . So why are so many people on Reddit convinced it's a hateful, horrible place? Double standards and feminist smearing .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:34 AM
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YW :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:32 AM
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My attention isn't distracted, Im asking why mra's are allowing infor wars to exploit us.
/r/MensRights26/07/15 06:32 AM
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Do you expect vets who need care to just man up? No because Im an mra, society does . That's why nobody listens .
/r/MensRights26/07/15 06:30 AM
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How is this bad movie the ultimate feminist goal?
/r/MensRights25/07/15 06:41 PM
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Picture the long suffering beta who eventually snaps and fights back . DV that causes injury to women is correlated with violent women hitting first, and a man responding in self defense and then the female escalating it , and so on .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:59 PM
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DV is correlated with dominance in the relationship , more so for women who are the dominant partner . That pattern plays out all over the world . http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID41-PR41-Dominance-symmetry-In-Press-07.pdf But there is a distinction between dominant and domineering .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 04:55 PM
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Why are we promoting this /r/coontown posting, chem trail and Illuminati believer? He is only co opting our stuff , its not news - he just watches our news and then copies it .
/r/MensRights25/07/15 02:38 PM
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Yeah I can see that , I do think trp is more based in reality though . Example , pre terpers see women gravitating towards more masculine, confident men in real life , while pretty much all feminist information is deliberately falsified and dishonest to generate fear, anger and hate in order to manipulate people into following it .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 10:56 AM
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If you read through the sub you can see how useless it is for men , even male feminists in the comments are noticing it .
/r/MensRights25/07/15 10:48 AM
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Really? Never heard of it and I find it hard to believe. He might be trying to reference the sex wars but is misinterpreting it .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 10:16 AM
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You gave that impression . You seemed to me to be saying that you had sex you wouldn't ordinarily have and put it down to depression and drunkeness .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 01:26 AM
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Yeah I think its down to good management / moderation .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 01:17 AM
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You had sex you would not have had were you not drunk . You are among 75% of the 1 in 5 women that were raped in feminist statistics .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 01:15 AM
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Even if you initiated it you were still raped because you were drunk . Stupid I know but thats feminism .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 12:33 AM
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How many hours are the women doing relative to men? There is nothing in that information that adjusts for the many factors that wage gap studies do , such as number of hours worked .
/r/MensRights25/07/15 12:28 AM
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I'm not red pill as in /r/trp red pill , I'm more sympathetic to it having been posting here for while because the more rational ones post here . I made the TRPACC account to post in trp after my other account was banned , now its my main account which is also banned!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/15 12:17 AM
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MGTOWs are pretty aware there can be a callous attitude among women towards men - remember the womens program where the hosts and studio audience were laughing about the women tying the man up , cutting off his genitals and destroying them ? I don't think there was this one incident that made his mind up , more like the straw that broke the camels back when it effected him personally .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:43 PM
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Feminists are told a lot lies by feminism and believe some pretty awful things which are guaranteed to cause unhappiness . I see many deriving a smug self satisfied feeling from the illusion of moral superiority , but thats not real happiness .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 09:17 PM
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Get evidence of her abusing you. It could even be a pattern of disparaging remarks . If you throw her out she will use it against you . I should have said this first - get legal advice .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 08:20 PM
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I wonder how feminists on reddit test the strength of their convictions Feminists generally prefer censorship and shaming , its been that way for decades - in their areas and out they bully and censor when the facts are contradicting them , thats partially why there is so much resentment of them at the moment . Cults are formed that way. Too late , its already a cult !... but if you want to post with them try /r/feminismformen
/r/MensRights24/07/15 08:12 PM
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It was ever second weekend and every second Christmas . If she fucked with it , I could have her in court .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 07:00 PM
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You weren't banned for simply being a man , its moderated by a man. You were banned because they have a policy to ban all non feminist supportive positions .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 06:50 PM
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Ignored, yes. The other two, no. Mocked, is due to disinformation, just like lies spread about MRA. No one told vets at Walter Reed to shut up and man up. It was going on long before there were mra's. No, he knows if pleas for needs are coming from men, no one will listen. Elam even wrote and article saying these problems were to do the male gender role , and that mra's had difficulty admitting it. You really are foolish. There is no difference between . "Society expects men not to complain" and…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 06:44 PM
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Your statement . No, because there is no sense of urgency for men's needs. Your immediate contradictory statement . Not because men are expected to man up If men are not expected to man up and take it , why are they not listening while they are women, who are not expected to man up? Erin said male VICTIMS at her shelter resuming MALE ROLES, those male roles helped became mentors for boys, built toys for kids, Pizzy never ran a shelter like that , she only wrote about it as how she saw it should …
/r/MensRights24/07/15 06:17 PM
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Men can complain. No one say they can't. They will find themselves ignored, shamed , mocked and or told to man up . It is people just won't listen. And why don't they listen while they listen to women ? Paul Elam understands no one will listen . Right, Elam understands society expects men just to man up .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 06:01 PM
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I had a custody order that stipulated every second Christmas . When the mother took the child out of state for Christmas when I was my Christmas for custody, I had every right to have the authorities punish her .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:57 PM
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No, society do not listen Right, because men are expected to look after themselves and man up by society . Through education So through education - socialization . When women on The View made fun of a guy getting his penis chopped off by his wife who then threw it into a garbage disposal, who are the ones mocking? Right, so members of society were mocking a man who needed help and empathy , where they wouldnt a woman . Gender roles do not harm men So excluding men from help while giving it to wo…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:45 PM
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Dont respond to posts in subreddits that have a feminist policy .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:40 PM
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They are ideologically against using gendered insults an they have a feminists only policy .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:40 PM
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Dont post in a sub reddit that has a feminists only rule and that won't happpen .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:38 PM
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Your statement . Society do not expect men to shut up and man up. Your immediate contradictory statement . Society look at the funds it has, women cries they need to for this and that, even for stupid stuff, vets who really need help, screams they need it too. Society is not telling vets to shut up. Society look at the fund it has and just think women's issues are more urgent. So women are allowed when they complain help and men are expected to man up and deal with it, and its social - according…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:29 PM
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But they did complain So? Society still expects men not to . It is not impossible, but we need re-wiring. Through socialization ? I'm just stating it is not expectation of men to shut up, because those men keep demanding support. Men are mocked , shamed and or ignored for asking for asking for help . This is because men are expected to man up , and when they don't society responds , its a gender role that harms men .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 05:25 PM
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How many times do I need to repeat this. How many times do you need to prove that society expects men not to complain and when they do they will be ignored ? Only once , everyone involved knows that . All you are repeatedly doing is proving evidence that society expects men to stay quiet and not ask for help and if they do they will be ignored ... while that doesn't happen when its women . You are describing socialized gender roles being enforced . You are too inexperienced for this debate ... y…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:56 PM
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It has nothing to do with man up and not asking for support because vets had been asking for support, dads had been asking for support, for decades. Problem is society only listen to women. Because women are allowed to speak about their problems and men are expected to man up . Which is an aspect of masculinity that is harmful to men .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:26 PM
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Society IGNORES men's plea to have support. So these men are in fact SEEKING and ASKING for support for years, decades. Society ignores because society listens only to women. And the reason for this is men are expected to man up and not complain . It has to do with our genetic coding we can't turn off. So why are you in this movement if you think its biologically impossible to extend help and empathy to men .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:24 PM
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You keep pointing out yourself how society rejects mens need for trauma related services - both for vets and DV victims and also said that its stupid to go to your friends like a woman when your wife is abusing you . You are incoherent .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 04:03 PM
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Oh, there's no support for male depression and male suicide despite MRAs keep asking? Blame it on toxic masculinity. Mra's are asking because they reject the socialized gender role that men shouldn't ask for help and men shouldn't have equal access to victim services . People respond to mra's by shaming them . Again this is society imposing the socialized male gender role that real men should man up and not complain . You have both agree and disagree with this in your contradictory arguments .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 03:55 PM
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When your dad tell you to man up and get things done, and not fret over what others think, does that lead to violence. You are exactly like a feminist , if the facts dont suit, you twist them . I didn't say my father saying man up and get things done, and not fret over what others think, leads to violence I said . Suppressing trauma and pain , not backing down , be a real man and prove yourself . Can lead to violence . There is nothing controversial about suppressed trauma and emotion leading to…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 03:38 PM
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Did you even read my full response? Are vets at Walter Reed saying, "We got this.", or are the vets demanding support and no one cares? They are asking for help are they not? But no one gives a shit, that is the problem. So society views their role as to man up and take care of themselves - make up your mind . Which part of "man up" leads to violence, Suppressing trauma and pain , not backing down , be a real man and prove yourself . unemotional, When men are hurt and emotional and they are told…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 03:15 PM
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Toxic masculinity is one of the ways in which Patriarchy is harmful to men. It is the socially-constructed attitudes that describe the masculine gender role as violent, unemotional, sexually aggressive, and so forth. Right , and also that instead of needing help , men should just man up and if the don't they aren't real men . nd as you know, male victims of domestic violence did go to shelter. But any shelter that dare accept men will not get funding. So, again, it is not men not seeking support…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 02:54 PM
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No, toxic masculinity is not about man-up and suffer. Thats exactly what it means , men should man up , which then follows into men not getting the services and support you said men should have while women do have these things , can you please fuck off and stop wasting time .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 02:39 PM
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I know, but do you know? Of course I do. I've been doing it for 7 years , I started out 7 years ago posting the erin pizzy story along with the research - long before this place or avfm existed . Thats why today I can run rings around feminists when it comes to DV debates and most mra's cannot . The Pizzy story is entry level knowledge . Thats why most of DV information in /r/mensrightslinks, which I moderate was put there when I was using the name sigil . I said MRA does not believe in toxic ma…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 02:10 PM
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Yes, men are equally likely to be victims of DV. So why are there no shelters for men, when Erin Pizzey did accept men to her shelters and it worked? Go find out , its basic history of the movement , you are supposed to know this stuff . MRAs are saying there is no support, which is true. But MRA does not go on a "victimhood competition" with feminists. You seem to be veering off the topic here . The topic was never whether or not there is a "victimhood competition" , uless you thing mra's argui…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 01:01 PM
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Risks are far greater for boys , a woman can take control of his autonomy and make him her financial slave until his 40s .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 12:33 PM
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They are not complaining they do not want that anymore. They are saying no one appreciates it. Nope, mra's are arguing that men need help with suicide and abuse victimization etc . No, MRA is not saying they are equal victims, Mra's have been using the stats to show men are equal victims for decades , since Erin Pizzy and Murray Straus began saying it . MRA is saying men's problems have been ignored, by both evolution biology and by a deliberate effort to vilify men. Right, mras say men are expe…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 12:18 PM
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So I have feminist friends because I disagreed with you . Yet, you are debating me. So how are we a group think? Your response to conflicting facts was to frame me as an outsider and enemy .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 12:07 PM
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I asked, where. Feminist and gender theory , not that experiment . When? When did MRA talk about men having toxic masculinity Mra's often complain about men being expected to man up and take shit without complaint , they just dont call it "toxic masculinity" . that men need to be nurtured more like girls? I didnt say that mra's say men need to be nurtured like girls . Mra's argue that men should have equal empathy and the right to be seen as equal victims and so on .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 12:06 PM
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Go and ask your feminists friends about #KillAllMen joke. So to you Im a feminist because I disagreed with you .... thats irrational , group think behaviour right out of the feminist play book . This is what Im talking about .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 11:33 AM
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Really? So where did all these "gender is a social construct" come from? I know it did not come from biology science. Before that . And its pretty obvious that lots of aspects of gender are a social construct , mra's complain about gedner social constructs that effect men all the time .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 11:31 AM
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So, this is where gender behavior is a social construct comes from? No its not . I figured out feminist movement's end game. Teach boys to act like girls so men will commit suicides themselves. Conspiracy theory . Its all very well to be in this echo chamber saying things that "feel" right to you and others and getting upvoated that are ultimately nonsense , its better to be an mra that knows their facts and evidence .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 11:11 AM
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This is total nonsense .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 10:59 AM
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This is total nonsense .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 10:58 AM
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Happiness is realizing that you project your own reality and that externals like material things and women do not create real happiness .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:37 AM
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They used to allow us there , but we overwhelmed them with the same wage gap and "why aren't women responsible for their rapes" questions . Now mra's can post in /r/feminismformen , /r/askfeminists in a limited way . Most mra's do not have the information and skills to win debates in either of these subs though . edit - lol attacking facts with down votes that contradict the circle jerk - just like /r/feminism
/r/MensRights24/07/15 10:34 AM
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There is the likes of mgtow , there are mra's in general and there is the /r/trp type .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 10:27 AM
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Don't post on subs that have a feminists only policy .
/r/MensRights24/07/15 10:24 AM
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Over the last few decades feminism has elevated women to a special class (in the minds of people that have not taken one of the red pills) , its like those dictatorships where you cannot criticize those in power - but they can criticize you .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 07:55 PM
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I've been resisting the urge to make a puerile and crude crack involving a ripped out fireplace.
/r/MensRights23/07/15 07:51 PM
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I thought you would be the among the first to up vote my post .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 07:02 PM
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A collar is a collar , be it electric or normal .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 07:01 PM
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I see a lot of suffering in the manosphear because of a lack of suitable women . See all the anxiety and rage about finding sexual, in demand women that have the partner counts of omegas and asexuals on trp , for example .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:51 PM
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We are talking about the assertion that the printing press and society somehow came into existence without competition / evolution - which basically mean the same thing . If masculine competition is bad , then so is evolution . If co operation worked over competition russian communist workers would have actually been working efficiently instead of the work ethic collapsing due to lack of incentive .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 03:26 PM
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Human society evolved for mutual survival and competition against nature and threats . It is part of evolution , and printers are technology not society .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:58 PM
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Invention is driven by competition . If there is no completion nothing evolves , life or technology .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:47 PM
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Are you saying that there was no competition among writers and developers of written word and then printing ? Look at say computers , it was and still is companies and coders battling it out to produce the best systems , you seem to be saying that was not the case with early forms of word processing , if so why would it not be ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 02:37 PM
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Thanks :) So I think I have 2 x men , one of them red and yourself who I'm assuming is purple from the user name .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 01:24 PM
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Ok , well Ill remove it if that's what they want . Aside from that for research I'd like to know how the people that upvoted it identify ... rp / bp / pp / male / female etc . If anyone doesn't want to say in public you can pm me .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 01:05 PM
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Sometimes it means women should have collars put on them and be lead around on a leash .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 08:41 AM
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For example . Boys on average do better than girls on average in exam style tests , girls on average test better than boys on average in course work which can easily be copied . To suit girls , the education system has been leaning towards course work marking , so the education standards are in decline . Also as some professionals and researchers in the area have said girls behaviour is the gold standard , and people - mostly boys who are being more rambunctious and harder work for a female teac…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 07:58 AM
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The criminal conspiracy investigation on her and her friends ?
/r/MensRights22/07/15 08:03 PM
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Can't wait to hear the outcome of the criminal conspiracy investigation .
/r/MensRights22/07/15 07:50 PM
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So what , party people out in the casual sex and drugs and club scene have more partners ? Slow clap! Just don't be weird about sex or act like you are willing to pay through the nose for someone with a partner count that seems low to you , and no one will be motivated to lie to you in the first place and you wont have to worry about silly systems for screening people .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:05 PM
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For the first claim - http://www.saveservices.org/falsely-accused/survey/ And the second The first paper in this journal goes through how academic feminists produce fraudulent information that makes the false accusation that domestic violence is mainly / strongly gendered , for one example . http://www.responsiblerecovery.org/PDF/PartnerAbuse.pdf This is how feminists have been able to falsely accuse men as being the primary family abuser for decades now . Much of the funding feminism receives i…
/r/MensRights22/07/15 12:09 PM
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Its not controlled by the original roissy , the blog was sold some years ago to someone with a racist agenda , which is probably why it was banned .
/r/MensRights22/07/15 12:06 PM
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The study on it showed its men making false accusations 33% of the time . The thing about feminism is , that its organized false accusing , even their research is designed to make false accusations .
/r/MensRights22/07/15 07:54 AM
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Yeah trade , http://www.austin-institute.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Cultural-Suppression-of-Female-Sexuality.pdf you are advocating that women deliberately make sex so scarce that men will pay through the nose for it .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:45 AM
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They only have motivation to lie to people that get weird about them having sex . You aren't pretty stupid to agree to marriage with any "less" than a virgin . You are pretty stupid if you get married with an unrealistic fairly tale ever and ever expectation when its likely that over half of all them were miserable for as long as there were marriages . There are far better predictors of whether someone is going to cause you problems in marriage than if they are a virgin or not .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:40 AM
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http://www.austin-institute.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Cultural-Suppression-of-Female-Sexuality.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:37 AM
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In cultures with reliable birth control and female friendly jobs the point of suppressing their own sexuality to later trade it for money and security isn't there .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 11:19 PM
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One of the most primal human instincts, The whole virgin / sexual double standards / slut shaming thing was invented by women . The idea was to get men thirsty enough to pay through the nose for sex .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 11:14 PM
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Then I embrace my tier-2 cuck status. As I would assume does every poster here with a count above 2. Hit the nail on the head there I think .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 11:12 PM
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How do you know what poop tastes like ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 11:10 PM
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Sure they do exist ... I didn't say they couldn't , they are rare with a count low enough to be considered low on rp . Hot people with an average to high sex drive , if they have a low count are generally going to have too many for rp standards .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 11:06 PM
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Feminists will make false accusations to do with rape no matter what .
/r/MensRights21/07/15 11:01 PM
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The sex tape . I am talking about the average girl , who has too many partners for rp , not outliers with porn vids on the net .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:49 PM
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because I'm talking about what rp consideres too many - more than 2 or 3 .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:48 PM
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This is a silly example , Im not talking about porn stars or similar people who aren't in the industry . Im talking about what red pill considers low or high , low being 2 or less and too high being above that .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:46 PM
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In rp too high isn't a ton of people, its only a few . Only the low average numbers are considered low .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:37 PM
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OK, so how do they do that and end up with a partner count that wouldn't be considered too high in rp?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:32 PM
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So why wouldn't they have various relationships and fwbs ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:25 PM
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Is your partner count around the lower range of average , 2 - 3?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:19 PM
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Why would a horny person just masturbate instead of having sex with people ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:07 PM
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The narrative that female sexuality is pure and clean mens is dirty and destructive . Its just a narrative that women invented years ago to manipulate men .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:06 PM
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Yeah I know that , Im not talking about raging nymphos, they rack up 100s . I'm talking about the average girls that are causing anxiety on rp.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:03 PM
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If they were not inhibited, they wouldn't be waiting . Waiting generally can mean a few things - sexually inhibited / low sex drive or low iq / religious brain washing , or prostitution for the highest price .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 09:04 PM
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In my experience that's pretty much the position and expectation of virgins when they start out at 16 or so ... the only difference here is yours was a late bloomer .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 08:42 PM
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Committed what , money and security?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 08:28 PM
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I think your hospital explanation works better , I know two guys in the mid 20's that had cancer as children , they are still mentally like children . You cannot grow and fuck like your peers if you basically don't have any .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 08:26 PM
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Well prostitution is what you are talking about really . You want whats basically a prostitute that witholds sex until they get the highest possible price, who will reject or harass you when you don't live like a devout Muslim / Christian .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 08:21 PM
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My definition of low would be anything around average . The red pill definition of low is different , they consider the low average low and the mid to high average high .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 08:18 PM
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So she late growing up due to illness ... like a 16 year old in a 21 year olds body , this is an exception ... an outlier . By now she probably has a more normal partner count .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 08:16 PM
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In general , its not false , I've met the odd one of those too . Why was it she never kissed a guy or saw a penis , low sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:43 PM
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Goods and humans are a false dichotomy ... I guess ... if you are a slave trader .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:43 PM
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Yeah , you are being fair and I'm being uncharitable because I don't know either .I think if she is going to try and get a lot of views again by picking on some kid with a low iq and humiliating them ... and new mra;s going along with it , its better that they know the history . To me it looks like she has come back for a double dip .
/r/MensRights21/07/15 07:16 PM
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You sound insane , isis insane . If its goods you want , just get goods instead of a human . Your virgin won't be tarnished for other men baring the likes of ISIS , its your mentality that is tarnished ,
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 07:05 PM
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Its not the best option for most people . And once you "tarnish" your virgin with your dirty male sexuality, they will be "tarnished" , thats why muslim girls are supposed to wash after sex with a man .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 06:22 PM
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Yeah, you are talking about people who are sexually inhibited through religion . These people are rare and the place to find them is in church or mosques and so on , and they not all that sexual in the first place .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 06:08 PM
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You sound insane . You want someone who is attractive, sexual but sexually inhibited by culture then .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:57 PM
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Was making a point about the source of that The red pill dilemma and the much of the anxiety in the sub .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:48 PM
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Low partner count is generally going to mean low smv and / or low interest in sex . Average people will be mid to over the high average .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:47 PM
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No , I was talking about the academic books and papers that show feminism is largely based in fraud and dishonesty .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:30 PM
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Sure , someone that has had two of those can be in their early to mid twenties and have a partner count of 2 as well as high smv and "sexy" . Very rare though , the lower partner count people will typically be omega or not that interested in sex .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:25 PM
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I was talking about the red pill dilemma . The hot sexual women with the partner counts of low sexuality and or low smv people .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:22 PM
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There is a spectrum running from a sexual to the other end . That spectrum will be correlated positively with the partner count .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:21 PM
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Ok, well technically its still a sort a unicorn , a hot sexual woman that comes in partner count wise with omega males and omega females and or sexually inhibited females - because thats who you are going to find when you look at the lower range of average .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:06 PM
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You realize that someone can thoroughly enjoy sex but choose to go without, even when they have options for one-off anonymous sex, right? Sure I realise that , I just can't see them coming in with a partner count at the lower range of average often .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 05:00 PM
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I personally don't have the same views as red pill on that . For this conversation I'm working off what I seen pillars saying , the lower range of average is low (2ish), and the higher range of average is high (9ish) . Personally I view everything between 2 and 9 to be low .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:53 PM
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Ok, so its the unicorn thing . They are hot and sexual and sexually uninhibited , but don't have sex outside of one or two monogamous relationships , while at the same time there are lots of them available .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:43 PM
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Their argument is based on feminist theory and doesn't acknowledge any of the ways in which men were treated as disposible . Its like a feminist rape or domestic violence statistic , lies by omission . Feminists don't deserve to be treated with the same consideration as other people because feminism is the gawker media of education and activism . You wouldn't cite gawker as a source ...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:38 PM
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Monogamous yes , but unlikely with the lower partner count .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:36 PM
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Where are these available hot and sexual women that don't have sex at? How do they end up with lower partner counts , while simultaneously being hot and sexual ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:35 PM
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Feminists are known to be dishonest , there is plenty of proof the academic discipline and the stats commonly used by feminists are dishonest and or fraudulent . Its a movement based on ideological lies that's populated by people that are comfortable lying for what they see is the greater good .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:33 PM
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If there is plenty of hot and sexual women with partner counts in the lower ranges , why are they called unicorns? Sure there are low SMV women with high partner counts , I said sexually inhibited low smv women .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:30 PM
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The dilemma for red pill men is finding a hot and sexual woman with the partner count of sexually inhibited and lower smv women .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:20 PM
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If its real life show the campaigns and spends .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:11 PM
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Can you show one feminist campaign to lesson help for women to that for men and one thats about getting women into civilian death jobs . Feminism isn't looking to give women the same disposibility and responsibility , its about special privileges and laws to benefit women .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:09 PM
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Thats not really a credible source, its feminist .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 04:07 PM
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She said she made a donation after a lot of drama , she didn't say how much if I remember right . Idk the particulars either , I just smelt something right from the beginning before the whole 5 k charity thing .
/r/MensRights21/07/15 03:47 PM
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She is back to get more cash out of us . A few years back she disappeared with 5k that she collected to start a shelter for men after a canadian man who ran one killed himself .
/r/MensRights20/07/15 10:19 PM
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You posted in a sub that has a policy to instantly ban non feminists .
/r/MensRights20/07/15 05:43 PM
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Just ask them to name one right men have that women do not , when they answer wage gap debunk it - men do not have the right to earn more . When they can't tell them what rights women have that men don't .
/r/MensRights19/07/15 08:06 PM
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Perhaps its impossible for someone who thinks arguing with people over whether or not they shave is something important or somehow to do with /r/mensrights .
/r/MensRights19/07/15 05:04 PM
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Its gaming the system give women pay rises because they on average put 20% or so less in . Women are already ahead , the men that earn more are typically the same men that are giving half of what they make to a woman that can no afford to work less because she has that passive income Single never married , childless women out earn their male peers we have slanted the system in womens favour enough .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 04:49 PM
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Construction wouldn't be equivalent , for example there is being out in the elements and the risk of injury or death . The wage gap is down to womens choices and the amount of time they put in , your solutions all involve gaming the system to pay women more for less work instead of encouraging women to spend more time at work or less depending on whether they personally want to close the gap or not . Women have no incentive to close the gap because the men that make more give half of what they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 03:55 PM
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But carers and people on their level are paid abysmally for jobs that are essential, emotionally draining and have very little in the way of career progression. Psychologists (female dominated and caring ) are well paid . Medical doctors (female dominated and caring ) are well paid . Unskilled caring work is not well paid , as is the equivalent for men . Nursing, police work and teaching are not so well paid . Most jobs have low pay and little in terms of career progression . It effects men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 03:13 PM
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Its been womens style of game for generations and generations .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:57 PM
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I'm doing the same thing as what exactly ? Its your lack of logic and implausible scenario that's causing the discomfort .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:41 PM
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Caring professions are paid around the same similar of equivalent work for men . Again your solution is paying more the same work .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:40 PM
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The wage gap can be addressed without forcing women straight back into the work-force full-time after giving birth. Only by paying women more for the same work .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:33 PM
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This is just a stupid conversation . I'm sorry I shared now . There is no motivation for her to carry on such a ridiculous web of lies , normal people don't do that . If her orgasm control and conditioning wasn't working she would just say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:29 PM
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In feminism the wage gap is seen as a problem that needs to be fixed . Therefore womens choice to spend more time with children than men is an anti feminist choice .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:18 PM
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I didn't where was anything wrong with it , its feminists that say its a problem that needs to be fixed . I was just pointing out that giving men more paternity leave doesn't work as a solution .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 02:05 PM
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Yes it is an implausible situation in a close relationship . Unless she is delusional and has personality disorders ... which she does not . There is no motivation for her to pretend .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 01:57 PM
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That's a ridiculous suggestion . Besides that , when we split up after Christmas , she had a melt down and her shrink was trying to get her orgsm without me as part of her therapy . As I said, this sort of thing can be dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 01:53 PM
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If you look at custody arrangements and parental leave systems like the Swedish one women even when given the opportunity to do less child care will opt to do more ,
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 01:47 PM
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Just curious - how do you know she's not just telling you this? because I'm in an actual relationship , and there would be no benefits at all to her making up something so ridiculous .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 01:16 PM
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Its hypnosis and Pavlovian conditioning , basically . Its not that unusual in the BDSM world . Once you give a woman permission to fully embrace their sexuality you can really do amazing things with it .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 01:10 PM
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I practise sub conscious and conscious conditioning . For example I have trained her to orgasm on vocal command and all her orgasms are tied into good behaviour , but its all being done with consent . It is actually dangerous because if I were to leave her she would need lots of de-conditioning . For a similar example , she finds it physically and mentally impossible to orgasm without me now . If you are going to do these things you need consent and responsibility .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 11:32 AM
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Yes, you are comfortable with the genocidal hate speech of a celebrated attempted murderess . We are not in disagreement here . You just don't trust women studying at college level to read things and in general have sensible reactions and thoughts. This is just nonsense , you are making false accusations with is normal in your culture . You are the person with problematic views who supports problematic things , yet you project that onto me .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 11:21 AM
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Right, because according to you its oppression of women to object to their sweet, innocent , genocidal hate speech . You justified solans .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 10:41 AM
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The endless hostility towards men in feminist articles , endless sharing of tricks to enhance smv , endless how to get a man to do / be x , y z books and articles , here is Sharon Osbourn , her collegues and guests laughing away about very serious female on male domestic violence where a man hand his genitals intentionally destroyed beynd repair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuFygvXPAM
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 08:51 AM
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That is just one the feminist illegitimate arguments . AVfM have achieved lots . more than feminists did without help .
/r/MensRights18/07/15 01:51 PM
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This is only something that people with high smv should try , the average red piller wouldn't be able to process it .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 01:48 PM
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These "nice guys" are just men behaving more like women do then .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 12:44 PM
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Nothing that women don't freely do in the female mainstream , TRP its less hateful and manipulative though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 12:37 PM
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Heres the thing . Privilege really mean legal privilege , feminists never mention that because legal privilege is what women have .
/r/MensRights18/07/15 12:22 PM
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Kudos for identifying the only argument needed to counter feminists "rape culture" . Going by their own definitions, feminism is rape culture .
/r/MensRights18/07/15 12:12 PM
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Women initiate 70% of divorces . The legislation that allows women to easily dissolve monogamous relationships and start again is female in origin .
/r/MensRights18/07/15 11:37 AM
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Women don't need the security of marriage before they have sex , and now they don't need to stay in bad relationships till death because there are other options , they don't even need marriage at all . Men who cling onto the old world are generating needless suffering for themselves .
/r/MensRights18/07/15 11:35 AM
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No, monogamy is no longer so useful to women because of modern technology and modern economies. Its not opinion, its fact. Women just don't need to find security from a man before they have sex these days .
/r/MensRights18/07/15 11:32 AM
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The research into the origins of our pair bonding and womens rejection of monogamy now that there are better options for them .
/r/MensRights18/07/15 11:31 AM
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Feckblog is about the best thats out there . Then there /r/mensrightslinks .
/r/MensRights18/07/15 10:54 AM
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This is for /r/mensrants
/r/MensRights17/07/15 09:26 PM
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Which is why we should stop posting their videos .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 08:06 PM
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Can we stop allowing infowars to co opt us? We have all their "news" already , all they do is see whats trending with us and copy it .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 08:04 PM
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So you think they are pretty good ... and prince Philips disrespect is ok ... this is what I said was happening in the first place .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 07:59 PM
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Monogamy is no longer the useful thing it was , so its time to adapt ... or suffer .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 07:57 PM
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Yeah, the origins of monogamy are down to women deciding it was the better deal at the time , now its not - so its best for men to adapt .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 07:57 PM
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We have been polygamists for a lot of our recorded history . If it was left to what is natural , there would be lots of sexual activity starting at around 13 years of age .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 07:16 PM
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Its maintained in human culture through shaming and social engineering . If it was natural it would be easy to maintain .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 06:48 PM
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Men take this monogomy / marriage thing more seriously than women . Most don't even know how money factors into it for women . iIs best for men and their health if they view it as something that might happen , even after marriage and even if it fails to happen - its just part of normal life and its not big deal .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 06:47 PM
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Monogamy is also unnatural , its a good thing if we men forget about it as the ideal . Just dont marry like that male feminist idiot .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 06:17 PM
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He was referring cleverly to his view that in general normal people are spongers , when in reality he and his family are the ultimate spongers , so its a projection . People in the UK as so in awe of there masters that Philip can openly show contempt for them and they will be honored and grateful .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 06:10 PM
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I went right through the comments and there was not one that was even moderately supportive . No feminist cookies .
/r/MensRights17/07/15 09:00 AM
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In the context of Solans being a celebrated feminist and you minimizing her you said . Nope, its all about you not liking the fact that women have their own thoughts, a lot of the time those thoughts are going to be critical of men like you, and there's not a damn thing you can do about that. So you have justified Solanas . And its also a standard feminist shaming tactic to make a false accusation of irrational ill will towards women . You are in a sick culture .
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 07:31 PM
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So Philip and the women are sponging of the working men . He cracks me up , he is really ignorant but hes funny as hell .
/r/MensRights16/07/15 07:29 PM
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Him being deliberately controversial has been the main driver of this movement in recent years .
/r/MensRights16/07/15 08:46 AM
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Well he is obviously being lied too and out of touch , there are no sub reddits that are about harassing feminist women .
/r/MensRights16/07/15 06:33 AM
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He is saying when men are raped its by men in prison . And I think its very cynical , democrats are hemorrhaging male voters .
/r/MensRights16/07/15 06:05 AM
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So what ? Subs are mostly female anyhow .
/r/MensRights16/07/15 06:02 AM
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Yeah thats how the bdsm community works , otherwise it would just be assault and not a very nice community to be in at all .
/r/MensRights15/07/15 09:26 PM
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The bdsm community and feminism have had a strong cross over for decades at least .
/r/MensRights15/07/15 09:18 PM
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They think anti feminist means anti female and that anything critical of women is blasphemy .
/r/MensRights15/07/15 07:23 PM
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You just know shes going to be making false accusations about rape before you read it .
/r/MensRights15/07/15 05:46 PM
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One of them is talking about ""Simon Cohen the essential difference". In other words they are advocating what you have basically said in your post . There is a spectrum , most men and women fall into the masculine or feminine end , because its a spectrum there are a smaller number of people who don't as much . You can make generalizations with the caveat that there are exceptions . edit - hating people for saying that seems a little ... ott .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:28 PM
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The evidence is self evident . Girls are dominating education .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:14 PM
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You seem to not give a damn about the way girls are treated, given far less attention and encouragement, feedback or opportunities than boys. That's not happening to girls , its happening to boys - thats why girls are dominating . Its just that feminists lie in order to keep slanting the system for girls .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 04:02 PM
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This is real progress . edit - thanks to the writer , nice one :) .
/r/MensRights15/07/15 04:00 PM
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The evidence is self evident , girls dominate education by a substantial margin . You seem not to understand that part .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:51 PM
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The feminist position is that there is a conspiracy . The reality is due to feminist activism and lies over the last few decades women now dominate education , more than men did in the 1970s . If there is a bias against girls in education , and girls are dominating , why do you suppose that is ? Is it because you believe they are superior ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:40 PM
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You didn't link to evidence that reflects reality , the reality is women are dominating education . You linked to feminist research , which sets out to lie to people in order to justify more pro female bias . If you simultaneously believe there is a bais against girls , and know that girls are dominating education , common sense says you must believe girls are just superior . Thats understandable because thats what we are taught to believe . Are you going to continue not commenting on that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:33 PM
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Talking away the vote is a silly thing to discuss because it could never be done . although the end point of women's voting and political movement is fascism , the end point of red pill politics seems to be too .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 08:03 AM
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You cannot argue that education is biased against girls , when they are doing better , dominate by numbers and there are numerous special programs for them . So you revert to teenage text speak . Do you believe girls are doing better despite being discriminated against due to innate superiority ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 08:00 AM
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OP of thread is trying to say that being concerned about her and being ashamed of her and shaming her are mutually inclusive . Obviously they are not . The OP is not making a rational argument .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:55 AM
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Because covering the toilet is more hygienic .
/r/MensRights15/07/15 03:48 AM
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More often they approach they let guys know that its ok for them to approach .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:44 AM
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Your post is sounds illogical . Sure you can warn her about dangers , but you act like warning her and being ashamed of her and wanting to cause her psychological pain are mutually inclusive . Its like you are rationalizing an irrational fear of women having sex like you would if you could .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:42 AM
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All studies have flaws , when academic feminists see studies that disprove their claims , they go look for the flaws to discredit the study .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:36 AM
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Your arguments are irrelevant because girls are the majority of college students , there is a bias in favour of them . Unless you believe that girls are so superior , its biased against them and in favour of boys yet girls still dominate 70% of subjects and come out with the best marks due to that . Girls are the majority of STEM students , and the majority of all other students , the system is biased in favour of girls and plays into girls learning and testing styles .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:33 AM
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Nice one , saved .
/r/MensRights14/07/15 09:18 PM
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National hiring experiments reveal 2:1 faculty preference for women on STEM tenure track http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract Pro Feminists have been pretending there is a bias against girls for decades , while not telling anyone girls were already dominating in order to get more and more bias for girls .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 08:32 PM
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So there is a bias against girls in education, when they dominate education? That makes no sense . There is a bias for girls . ... you sources are just feminists pretending black is white . Here, feminist research is generally fraudulent junk http://www.amazon.com/Professing-Feminism-Education-Indoctrination-Studies/dp/0739104551
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 08:24 PM
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There is no bias against girls , they are dominating . Your last like confirms what I said . Boys on average are being given worse grades for same work .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 07:41 PM
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Through out the education system . The new research is also showing boys on average are being given worse marks for the same standard of work as girls .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:18 PM
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You went to college in a supportive atmosphere , nobody demonizing you for your sex or gender or race there . Easier said than done when boys are being discriminate against and girls are being discriminated edit in favour of . Sending the message that school is for girls and favoring girls learning styles and punishing boys for being boys starts early .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:12 PM
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Its not paranoia . Women were denied education much longer than men were. Women were also discouraged from Pershing mathematics, science and business, equalling the playing field by giving women incentives to take these courses and follow these paths is not taking away from men, it was always an option for men and always will be an option for men, it's equalling the playing field... They lied to you , the playing field was equal in the 1980s , now women dominate education .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:06 PM
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Fuck off David .
/r/MensRights14/07/15 05:00 PM
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Yeah feminist activism slanted education in favour of girls and there are lots of special programs and incentives for girls . In the US , men are openly demonized on campus , education is not a male friendly place .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 04:58 PM
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Its mainly a silencing tactic now .
/r/MensRights14/07/15 04:48 PM
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Fuck off David , every time I direct them to some where they can actually post you start with these lies .
/r/MensRights14/07/15 04:44 PM
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Good game and personality . Good in bed and is getting referrals . Also young impressionable women thinking it really cool for him to be that old and still be "cool" (according to their tastes) .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:33 PM
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Depends on the individual , the only one I can speak for has two roles , business owner and badass in that role and a submissive to me . It works for us .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:16 PM
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Just post in one of the feminist areas that doesn't have an insta ban policy . But have your ducks in a row ... if they are saying men are more likely to raped by men than falsely accused , get the stats that prove them wrong ... if only for fence sitters to see , feminists are fundamentalists , their views don't just change when evidence disproves them .
/r/MensRights14/07/15 03:08 PM
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Feminist jurisprudence opposes fathers rights , the rights of abuse victims of women , the right of men to have their equality issues addressed , equal rights in education ... it goes on and on . And feminists typically attack any groups that organize for men . Even this ppd , its about feminists opposing the right of men to have the conversations women freely do .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:04 PM
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because when you hear what you say you think and believe said back to you , it quite rightly sounds atrocious to you . This is what other people hear too , when feminists share their views .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 12:36 PM
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because its hilarious to you that the system is allowing women to commit serious crimes against men that can involve kidnapping and false imprisonment at gun point by the police .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 10:17 AM
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Sure , its a factor that can indicate someone is more likely to cheat . There are much better predictors though .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 08:14 AM
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Yeah, I cherry picked an unbiased , professional source from the middle of a biased article , so trying to mislead ...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:07 PM
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Yeah , it is a no brainer that people that are promiscuous are by definition going to be more likely to cheat , also women that married young and didn't have many partners that feel like they missed out . The red pill take on judging things mainly on the basis of partner count is still retarded because what is a high partner count to the average red pill guy, is a normal partner count for people that are more sexually in demand (the sort of women that rp men are shooting for) and because among p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:43 PM
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What if you are Ron Jeramy who goes swinging with his wife? Or you are a person that rationally accepts that people can grow out of each other , people can cheat and marriages end and that's just normal , humans are not swans . And its far better to judge people on their personality than it is their partner count , see the woman I'm talking about for example than it is to shoot for a fairy tale where you get a woman with a low partner count that also has a strong sex drive and a marriage that la…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:24 PM
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I would say yes . The movement for women puts out endless lies and propaganda designed to cause division and resentment .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 07:12 PM
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Of course a promiscuous woman by rp standards can be monogamous , I know one fiercely monogamous woman who had 3 ways and got up and stripped in a strip club while at college , she would be no go for red pillers but they would be missing out on an amazing and loyal sexual dynamo . Its just also a fact that the more promiscuous a person is the more likely they are cheat , because of the fact they have a higher sex drive and fewer inhibitions .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:48 PM
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Comments section is gold . Oh how times have changed , people openly questioning this shit with their own facebook accounts ...
/r/MensRights13/07/15 06:40 PM
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Is a promiscuous anyone more likely to cheat? Thats a no brainer ... IDK why this is even controversial . People with higher sex drives sleep with more people .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:28 PM
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Get your shit in one sock. It is , this is the third time I've pointed out that you were projecting . Uh no. I accused you of being dishonest. Don't be re writing history that you don't like . You said my intellectual dishonesty doesn't surprise you , erecting a strawman character with a known history of intellectual dishonesty . Are you stoned? Wtf does this mean? You erected a "hamster with a law degree" straw character . No. You are simply making this shit up. Sure I am , I dont think you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:14 PM
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I accused you of ERECTING a strawman. Right, you accused me of erecting a strawman, in the same paragraph you were erecting a strawman . Is that a hamster with a law degree or something? Wtf is that supposed to mean? See above . And you erected another strawman , a woman with a law degree - are you self aware ? Because you are making that up. If you can't see that sub has lots of people in it , that are irrationally emotional and obsessive about "sluts" and partner counts it must be just normali…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 05:55 PM
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Can we stop promoting these people at info wars who are cynically trying to capitalize on our movement ?
/r/MensRights13/07/15 05:47 PM
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Why is it expected? I don't think we have spoken before and I am nor blue pill and take a very dim view of their intellectual dishonesty ... it looks like you are attacking a strawman while accusing someone else of doing what you are doing . And this sort of emotional reasoning , from red pillers doesn't surprise me . If you are right , and much of the shaming and hating on "sluts" isn't based in what I said it is , how do you explain the strong emotions and the obsessing over "sluts" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 05:03 PM
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Except, it isn't happening. It's a strawman. It is happening with a sizable portion of red pill people - they ones doing the actual shaming and hating on women that have the sort of sex lives they wish they had . Yeah, that totally happened. Uh huh. It did actually .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:51 PM
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Im not blue pill . It is obvious to me that the emotional reactions and shaming are down to insecurity . I was talking to a red piller here and he was so wound up he thought another man seeing his wife breast feeding one of his kids was some sort of threat .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:25 PM
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False accusations are part of the "routine gamesmanship of divorce" according to one aussie lawyer , in other words the system is rewarding women for making fa's . And you are a liar , you cherry picked the maxium sentence for a false accusation , against the average sentence for rape . Australia have recently rolled back the presumption of innocence as well , which again is the system siding with female false accusers . Quote from Guardian But Prof Claire Ferguson, a forensic criminologist from…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 02:27 PM
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Its to do with being excluded from the sexual market and fear of male competition .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 02:26 PM
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I don't believe feminist leaning people . Just out of experience - the culture of lying for what they see as the greater good permeates their movement , which is in itself based on lies .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 02:11 PM
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They just pushed to get themselves in front , ladies first apparently works in their community too . Its a shame , because lesbians don't experience anything like what the other groups have / do .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 08:08 PM
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Lesbians changed it to lgbtq a few years back .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 07:50 PM
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In fairness , the article does say that boys that behave x get lower grades , saying that admits that boys that don't , don't .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:36 PM
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It is well sourced , we wouldn't be saying it all this time if we didn't have evidence . Here is one of the papers about it - Scroll down to the first paper in the journal its called "the architecture of anti science" . http://www.responsiblerecovery.org/PDF/PartnerAbuse.pdf
/r/MensRights12/07/15 06:32 PM
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Id be interested in knowing what jurisdiction this is , are you aware that professional feminists tell alarmist lies to people about the justice system as it pertains to rape ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 05:20 PM
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YW.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 04:01 PM
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Sure , culture magnifies small differences .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:01 PM
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Nah, if shes caught there are limited repercussions . Nothing that compares to having a FA made against someone .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 04:00 PM
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Some of them are listed on the blog post at the top the thread . Deliberately covering up abuse and depicting it as gendered wouldn't be the main atrocity in my opinion . They are only getting away with it because they represent women . If it was some male organization covering abuse of women by men , feminists would be up in arms .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 03:59 PM
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Women are probably and legitimately more immature due to biology . They mature quicker and for a shorter period of time , in nature the shorter the maturation the less complex the animal .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 02:09 PM
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I think the OP was reading some weird religious site and saw it , probably didn't realize how old it was .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 02:04 PM
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I lived there and experienced anti male bias and false accusations . Ex wife was the daughter of a female QC , who taught her .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:27 PM
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Depicting family abuse as gendered is hate . Same as depicting crime as black is .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:25 PM
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Woman hater as in he said something critical of women or held women accountable like men are in some way? I'm pretty sure whatever he is supposed to have done pales in comparison to the hate in the article you preferred .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:21 PM
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To demonstrate that legal professionals have come out being critical of the extent women use false accusations .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:20 PM
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Yeah , the anger phase is about people who are sexually excluded , who held on to pipe dreams that when "just be yourself" and "be nice" advice it actually means they are saying that's what generates sexual attraction . Its all born out of sexual scarcity .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:16 PM
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I did yeah . It looks to be the promotion of a book trying to capitalize on the demonization of men and depiction of women as victims of men . Demagoguery .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:12 PM
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Funny how you trust some unknown america lawyer trying to flog an alarmist book than you do a retiring magistrate with no obvious agenda .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:10 PM
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Well a man bad woman victim article will sound better to you . In regard to false accusations of abuse , all it says is that there are men that do it too False accusations by men are not part of the routine gamesmanship of divorce though , the same is not true for women .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 01:07 PM
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I don't understand this . When a mother poisons the relationship with the father in the child's minds ... the children are punished for it ? In a fair system the mother should be punished for it . Why did you just change the subject , out of dishonesty and solidarity with false accusing women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 12:55 PM
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Yeah I know all that . It doesn't explain the extreme emotional reactions to and irrational obsession with "sluts" . To me it just reeks of sexual exclusion .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 12:52 PM
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Ask /r/feminismformen
/r/MensRights12/07/15 12:49 PM
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Magistrates and legal professionals typically aren't conspiracy theorists . http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/crime-court/retiring-magistrate-ron-kilner-says-domestic-violence-laws-have-been-exploited/story-fnje8bkv-1227437468981 I've experienced false accusations , 1 in 10 Americans also have. Not a day goes by where I don't see false accusations being made by the official movement for women . Its just normal for women to make false accusations against men .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 12:39 PM
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I was getting at the fact OP tried to say the false accusers lives are destroyed . When in fact false accusations are frequently profitable for women , otherwise they wouldn't be doing it in the first place .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 12:11 PM
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I do think delusion is rampant on /r/trp . These people are supposed to have abundance , yet are the most freaked out about being cheated on and women having sex like men do . Its massively contradictory .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 12:03 PM
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Because of feminist sex negativity .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 11:19 AM
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If this stuff didn't work , it wouldn't already be a normal part of female culture .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 11:04 AM
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I've had too much experience with the women in my life suffering horribly at the hands of abusive and manipulative men The research shows women significantly are more likely to be the abuser in the family or relationship . Its just that feminism sweeps womens abuse of men , women and children under the carpet for the more profitable and feminist man bad woman good narrative .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 10:51 AM
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There is a difference between outliers who are rejected , and the core of a movement . Feminism's atrocities are willfully committed by the movers and shakers of the movement which are then blindly supported and excused by the followers .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 10:47 AM
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False accusations are par for the course in divorce and custody proceedings , and in feminist activism , its probably more a sign of being a normal woman in todays culture than it is a red flag for the individual .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 10:44 AM
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False accusations don't destroy womens lives . They can get better divorce and custody deals , revenge , sympathy , attention , financial gains and can become feminist heros out of it , a feeling of power of being able to summon an armed force and legal mechanisms on a whim . Women wouldn't be doing it so much if it destroyed their lives and there were no benefits from it .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 10:40 AM
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We are actually very moderate compared to feminism , the glbtq movement, the civil rights movement etc . edit - how can you view us as extreme when looking at the list of feminist atrocities while we have not one atrocity in our history ?
/r/MensRights12/07/15 10:00 AM
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Ok thanks, I got the original Atlantic link from it . http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/?single_page=true
/r/MensRights12/07/15 09:44 AM
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Hi , not sure what I can contribute to that . I have noticed that Paul Jospeh Watson and Roosh V both started talking about "neo masculinity" at the same time , which I thought was odd .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 09:38 AM
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Do you have a link to the study or a more reliable source?
/r/MensRights12/07/15 09:31 AM
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Men have bigger problem with abuse and rape , and the feminist movement is covering it up , running discriminatory intervention and promoting misleading statistics that erase female perpetration . I think you have something akin to Stockholm syndrome .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 08:29 AM
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The feminists on /r/feminism cover up abuse and promote other lies about reality . They also support VAWA which is discriminatory and based on the deluth model . The only mens issues they will support are those that can be recast as misogny , and mens groups that are focused on helping women .
/r/MensRights12/07/15 08:26 AM
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Plate spinning isn't about lying and cheating , red pillers talk about being open about it - it simple means keeping options open , which women have speaking about openly for years . The women in the show lied in the usual ways women lie , make up tricks to enhance smv, not telling one guy about the others etc . A good rule of thumb is red pill aren't doing anything that isn't already normal in female culture .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 07:47 AM
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You are held responsible for the crime of drunk driving , putting others at risk . Having sex while drunk isn't a crime , so obviously there is no crime there to hold you responsible for . In both cases the drunk person is deemed incapable of something . But if she's active during the act, even initiating part or all of it - how is it not "consent"? Because its treated the same as being drunk and driving , a child having sex , a person who is legally incapacitated for mental problems , and so on…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 07:43 AM
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The DUI doesn't work as an analogy for you . And the consent thing and DUI are treated the same anyway . In both cases the person is deemed incapable of something - one is driving the other is consent .
/r/MensRights11/07/15 09:49 PM
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They are only doing it to cash in , they view us the same way they do conspiracy theorists - suckers .
/r/MensRights11/07/15 07:16 PM
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Lets not let that scam artist demagogue co opt us .
/r/MensRights11/07/15 05:48 PM
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Plates are just what women do too ... have a number of options open , like the main characters in sex and city that were deemed empowering and the way women should be in mainstream female culture . Women have been spinning plates since dating first became popular in the 20s . And before that it was entertaining various "suitors" .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:26 PM
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Yeah , the whole thing is based around it . In general no woman gets beyond her teens without knowing how a make a guy jealous , dread game is a normalized part of female culture .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 03:21 PM
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The rules would be the main one - they published the sort of thing women have been teaching each other for generations .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 01:42 PM
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Yeah that's how I interpret it when women argue that women experience the same things some men talk about .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 10:37 AM
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Im pretty sure they are aware that mainstream female culture teaches women to use dread game and most women know about it before the end of their teens . There have even been bestsellers on dread game for women . Don't forget , most everything that rp discuss - women invented and have been discussing openly for years .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:56 AM
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That false accusation is just a red herring and a non sequitor , I think its likely a defense of your sexism which is becoming more apparent as the conversation goes on . And in it you have just basically said Solans view of men is correct and justified , they are just women's natural thoughts and anyone who doesn't like them is a bad person. The mens movement does not and likely will never see nolan like that , because its not fully of people who have been socialized trough political propaganda…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/15 09:05 AM
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This is all about minimizing and double standards of your part . Nolan is rejected by the mrm . So he cannot become what solanas is to feminism . The mrm has an anti violence policy and no history of violence , feminism doesn't and has never taken a line against feminist violence and aggression and has a history of violent and threatening activism .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 05:27 AM
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If solans is merely interesting and its not a big deal she is celebrated and in mainstream universities and so on , then you must have no problem with Nolan .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 10:11 PM
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I suspect to you to it would depend on the gender of the person who wrote it whether its just interesting or horrific . Anyhow, Nolan would get no such support .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:33 PM
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And when feminists heard of it after the shooting, SCUM manifesto became a thing among feminists . There is no way mra's are going to do that . Mras know who he is and reject him , shooting someone would make him less popular , not more .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 08:30 PM
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I should have said on a par or less serious . For another example , here is a bunch of women laughing about a dv incident where a man had his genitals destroyed , in the female mainstream , had the mens movement not spoken up about this , there would have been no controversy about it . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muuFygvXPAM Its so part of the culture you don't see it .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:55 PM
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Nolan , the guy who is totally on his own is getting more attention than solanas did ? Hey if you want a laugh check out the one time Nolan was mentioned in an article on AVFM called "Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c): A Danger to Self and Others" . Peter turns up in the comments and starts operating two sock puppets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 03:53 PM
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Not inherently , feminism uses them as such . If it was really just about sexual assault and not about demonizing and rabble rousing, they would be including the stats for everyone .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:24 AM
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As I thought , you were lying and didn't spend 5 mins there finding those quotes , you went to a source who had been collecting them . You can find equivalent or worse quotes in the female mainstream .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:23 AM
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Its feminism , popular memes, best selling books, the womens political movements, women's journalism etc .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:20 AM
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Not likely , the mens movement in general rejects him today , can't see any that changing .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:19 AM
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Ok within about 5 minutes of digging I've found: I don't believe you , I think you went to a source that collects these quotes over time . I'll continue with you if you show your source(s) and it proves you honest .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 10:15 PM
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Right, near every rape related article they do is one sided and / or male targeted . They even celebrated violance against their partners . You found one exception , one of them cynically using male victims as political ammunition .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 10:07 PM
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Doesn't matter , the people suppressing the truth today are feminists . The people telling the truth are non feminists , with the exception of Murry Strauss , but he is attacked for it by mainstream feminism .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:42 PM
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You made an argument that an exception disproves the general rule . And showed a cynical exploitation of male victims .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 08:40 PM
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Then why did you look for an exception in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:33 PM
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Its because they are spreading hate propaganda .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:33 PM
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There is discussion in and around that already happening here .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:32 PM
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It is the case, there was a conscious and deliberate decision made not to include men s experiences with women in the surveys . The same goes for the stats they promote - they never tell you the other side .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:19 PM
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An exception doesn't disprove my point . And your exception was just using it to score points .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:13 PM
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The group thats in control of it doesn't want them both addressed , they sweep female perps under the carpet and gender it .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:12 PM
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Because people would argue that obscure academics are not mainstream , I'm showing it in the general mainstream female culture .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:10 PM
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The fact that male abuse isn't taken seriously is mostly a result of the traditionalist , patriarchal culture of the past. No, people in the general non feminist culture have been publishing the truth about female on male abuse for decades, which has been suppressed by dominant feminist voices , this is what sweeping it under the carpet is .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:04 PM
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Its womens sex criminality that flies under the radar .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:03 PM
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The existence of one seemingly balanced sex assault discussion , doesn't erase the far greater majority . Anyhow , the writer is clearly using the existence of male victims and female perps in an article designed to discredit an opponent .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 07:01 PM
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By the way your Jez article isn't really about what you say it is ... its just the dressing for a hit piece on the mens movement . It teaches everyone not to rape. It's aimed more towards men since that's the population that seems to screw it up most often. No , they hide the figures showing that its not gendered and only show one sided stats .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:53 PM
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Part of affirmative consent is making sure both parties understand how to give consent. It's not a one way street. They only teach men not to rape . What you are doing here is minimizing .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:47 PM
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Affirmative consent is an issue that's been discussed for ages and is relevant to everyone. Right - the idea that men need to taught not to rape and women don't is normalized in mainstream culture . This is what I'm talking about . The site also publishes articles that highlight issues of domestic violence against men. Is that the one they presented in a jokey manner , and the writer , two editors and bunch of the commentators bragged and joked about physically abusing their ex's ? edited .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:37 PM
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Jezebele where they support the idea that men need to be taught not to rape , minimize female perpetrated abuse and published an article where there was bragging about committing DV against men by the writer, and more of the same in the comments .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:27 PM
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Your definition of mainstream isn't popular posts on face book or the mainstream feminist movement ? I don't believe you .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:19 PM
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Sorry will delete .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:15 PM
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They say men need to be taught not to rape , and sweep female on male abuse under the carpet . And they are actually doing it with widespread support .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:44 PM
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because inclusion is "derailing" .
/r/MensRights08/07/15 04:43 PM
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/13/feminists-do-not-hate-men I have never seen this stuff , Because its normalized , you see it now that it has been pointed out to you .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:40 PM
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1 - Its an example of mainstream female culture - FB , being shared among women , 100k + likes . 2 - Yeah you get equivalent , especially coming from self identified and / or influential members of the official political movement for women . For example , they are installing classes that presume men need to be taught not to rape .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 04:31 PM
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She is still a celebrated feminist , have you seen the documentary on Swedish feminism where she is being cited by professional feminists who run the domestic violence shelters ? Massive difference between he treatment of Solanas and Nolan . And Mckinnion who spoke about the male pop, being reduced to 10% . The average , moderate feminists support McKinnions legal dominance feminism today .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 06:36 AM
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Elam is more moderate than say ... marcotte or valenti , he wrote three deliberately shocking pieces years ago ... its just there are extreme double standards applied to them .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:24 PM
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Yeah, and they are influenced by feminist ideology , beliefs and behaviour . Nolan is more into brehon law , hes not influenced by any sort of rnens rights ideology .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:17 PM
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He has been shunned and banned by mra and manosphear sites . He is not treated like Solanas , who is on recommended reading lists on womens studies courses . .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 09:08 PM
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They do get it . Its that they don't care and / or thats whats preferable to them .
/r/MensRights07/07/15 05:11 PM
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It's gynocentric , you just cannot see it because its your normal .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 07:36 AM
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Is the mark of a woman how well she cares for her family?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 07:28 AM
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The study on prostitutes from london showed most of them liked and chose their job . What you are describing is the political narrative of sex negative feminism on prostitution . Like all the other feminist narratives its not actually true .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 07:13 AM
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The dominant feminism frowns on prostitution , thats why Europe is moving towards the Swedish model .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/15 07:12 AM
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Hes a QB and she was standing afterwards ... he barely touched her .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 10:09 PM
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Boozed and / or coked up people got in a minor bar fight . Personally I speculate he turned her down and she started getting aggressive and it escalated to her punching him and ended with him punching her back and I doubt he punched her like he would a guy .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 09:32 PM
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Europe is sliding towards a feminist system from sweden . Prostitutes are viewed as victims of patriarchy who would never do it of the own accord , so their laws do not recognise sex workers making autonomous decisions and do not recognise it as a legitimate profession . The sex industry should be well regulated , unfortunately there isn't really anyone who can stand up against the dominant feminism baring the mens movement which is getting there ... I have thought about suggesting it for a caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:05 PM
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relevant - http://www.austin-institute.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Cultural-Suppression-of-Female-Sexuality.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:01 PM
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Anita Sarkessian empowered herself by playing the victim , that doesn't work for men . Trust me i know feminism has its share of shittiness just like any other movement but it is impossible to beat them using their own tactics. Trust you based on what ? The 1000s of other guys that thought playing being nice was the way forward but never actually went forward? Yes being seen as crazy and attacking is what broke the mainstream . edited for missing letters
/r/MensRights06/07/15 07:55 PM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:58 PM
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You are talking about the laws produced by Harriet Harman and co that don't recognise the autonomy of female sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:57 PM
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It was happening long before the academic concept of objectification . Prostitutes are / were also shamed by these same woman , btw .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:55 PM
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Probably because men and masculinity are being run down frequently in the media in feminist propaganda .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:48 PM
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The fireiness is what allowed us to break the mainstream finally , it didn't do damage . Anyhow, its below that which you see in feminists in the mainstream media, so what you are suggesting is double speech standards for us .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 06:41 PM
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His fiery tactics have been reigned in by design , AVFM is moving on to what elam sees as the next stages . The fieriness is an act to push things along , its not something he is addicted to and cannot help doing . Its actually years since elam published a shock piece , and he only published about three of them .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:59 PM
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This is incredible, thank you Jonathan .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:56 PM
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I think men in general should learn to be able swap and change partners as well as learn to be being swapped and changed with relative ease .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:52 PM
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Its not an official strain of feminism , its someone that some TERFS and the like believe . Types of feminism would be eco feminism, marxist feminism , third wave feminism etc .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:43 PM
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Thats not trp logic, its just the reality ... women habitually use game and habitually artificially inflate their smv . Most female media is dedicated to female game , and female game is huge industry , just walk down any high street and see how much of it is dedicated to products to inflate female smv .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 03:41 PM
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Shining light ... before Paul did avfm the men's movement really was struggling , it seemed hopeless at times - it was nothing but a few blogs and there was no media attention . What he did was find a way to use feminists silencing tactics against them and adopt the same controversial tactics of feminism and other social movements and now we are breaching the mainstream . Many people do out of naivety, think the best policy is just being nice and polite (doesnt work)and therefore elam is a liabi…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 09:23 AM
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Ah Im wrong about men and women typically getting suffereage at the same time according to this wiki , it used to say what I initially said ... In most countries, full universal suffrage followed about a generation after full male suffrage. Notable exceptions in Europe were France, where women could not vote until 1944, Greece (1952), and Switzerland (1971 in federal elections and 1990 in all cantonal elections). It is worth noting that countries that took a long time to adopt women's suffrage w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 09:14 AM
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Good but she doesn't seem too familiar with the various sects of feminism . For example "all sex is rape" isn't a type of feminism .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 08:41 AM
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ps - in most places men and women got the vote at around the same time . In the us black men got it first and there was a white supremacist feminist movement to get the same for women .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:38 AM
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It was male feminism - to do with fathers rights , male suffereing and male disposibility and being able to step out of that role , feminism came down hard on it .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:37 AM
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Most women habitually use female game guides of one sort or another . How do you think they know ho to wear make up or act cute or make a guy jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:04 AM
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When the mens liberation movement , the fathers rights movement and study into womens DV against men started many feminist decided it had to be censored and stopped and to this day continue to attack and block progress .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 08:02 AM
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Do you like it when women make you jealous deliberately ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:59 AM
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They aren't actually good . What its saying is that its bad that you live in an environment where you have to live like that - with the onus and expectation on men to go far out of their way in daily life prevent false accusations , instead of teaching women not to falsely accuse . Its an attempt to reverse genders and put the shoe on the other foot .
/r/MensRights06/07/15 07:34 AM
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Nearly all women habitually use female game to artificially inflate their smv . So when you are looking at a well made up 8 in the bar , she is likely a 5 or 6 the next morning with no make up tricks . If you are looking at an 8 who is not using these tricks , they are actually an eight .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 07:24 AM
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An eight is an eight without tricks . Women habitually and artificially inflate their attractiveness with tricks .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 03:03 PM
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Its just a satire of the things people used to say to women about rape prevention .
/r/MensRights05/07/15 02:49 PM
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Remember close to all women use female game deceptions and manipulations , if she looks like an eight she is really a 5 or 6 and she knows it .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 11:41 AM
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Thats not what happened . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_sex_wars
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 05:11 PM
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What you're saying about feminists sounds like you have no idea what their positions on sex are , what the sex wars were about , the distinctions between sex negative and sex positive feminism or that red pill has very similar sex negative attitudes to rad fems and so on . It just sounds like a confused rant .
/r/MensRights04/07/15 04:12 PM
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In a society where husbands are often more powerful/out-earning their wives Women have more social power than do men .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 03:57 PM
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I don't disagree with any one specific thing, I disagree with people making bold statements about things they have obviously have little to no information on first .
/r/MensRights04/07/15 03:49 PM
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You are talking about things feminists say and think , to do that you have to get what they say and think right .
/r/MensRights04/07/15 03:43 PM
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You don't even know what feminist arguments are ... if you want to take down feminist arguments you find out what they are and take them down , ranting , guesswork and incorrect assumptions are nothing more than wheel spinning .
/r/MensRights04/07/15 03:29 PM
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Care to explain why?
/r/MensRights04/07/15 11:31 AM
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So what? Fetishes grow out of sexual repression and making sex perverse , and there is nothing perverse about dressing up as a nurse or whatever . Its not inherently perverse , its inherently natural .
/r/MensRights04/07/15 11:16 AM
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There isn't something perverse about sex , that's something that people socially constructed .
/r/MensRights04/07/15 11:05 AM
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Feminists have been keeping pedophilia, domestic violence, child abuse and sex crimes quiet for decades . The article itself is covering up abuse by depicting it as something that men do to women and children , when its women that are more likely to be child abusers and initiate IPV.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 03:53 PM
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That's retarded . Their rape culture theory even says that boys are lucky / women cant rape is part of rape culture . To make counter arguments to their arguments and positions , we have to know what their arguments are first .
/r/MensRights02/07/15 08:35 PM
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Feminists have been attacking academics and men and women that tell the truth about the abuse stats . They have been attacking and mocking fathers rights groups for decades , its one of the reasons there is strong antifeminist sentiment .
/r/MensRights02/07/15 06:45 PM
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The attitude of the women ... the unwritten rule is they have the right to speak and bully , while MY can be rudely spoken over .
/r/MensRights02/07/15 04:50 PM
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You aren't proving anyone wrong . Feminism recruits men as allies to help women and feminists attack men and women who want to get mens issues on the gender equality table .
/r/MensRights02/07/15 04:29 PM
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I'm not going to go through all your claims . Planned parenthood grew out of the "racial hygiene" movement and as Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said about roe v's wade its a way of keeping populations that some don't want many of smaller , by giving them the choice to volunteer to use what was called state supported voluntary negative eugenics . Sure it was marketed as sexual freedom , and it did provide it but there was no agenda to help men there . Most of your examples seem to be "trickle down"…
/r/MensRights02/07/15 03:55 PM
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I'm not going to go through all your claims . Planned parenthood grew out of the "racial hygiene" movement and as Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said about roe v's wade its a way of keeping populations that some don't want many of smaller , by giving the choice . Sure is was marketed as sexual freedom , and it did provide it but there was no agenda to help men there . Most of your examples seem to be "trickle down" , they help men as a by product . Feminists did expand the definition of rape to inc…
/r/MensRights02/07/15 03:55 PM
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You are essentially saying that feminists have a lot of what they say about rape culture as it pertains to men is right .
/r/MensRights02/07/15 08:09 AM
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/r/askfeminists or /r/feminismformen You will gets some good responses and be able to improve your arguments .
/r/MensRights02/07/15 08:08 AM
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/r/askfeminists or /r/feminismformen You will gets some good responses and be able to improve your arguments .
/r/MensRights02/07/15 08:08 AM
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Women are less likely to be in higher paying jobs because they don't tend to do the 60 hours a week for decades thing , it doesn't effect them financially because women start working less when they acquire the passive income of a man .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:46 AM
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Problem with canadian stats is its a very feminist country - feminists in gov. positions they lie about women's domestic violence for example . When women get older , they tend to have the passive income of a man , and so can afford to work less while having the same or more money .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/15 06:43 AM
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No I'm not confused, I am clearly talking about one study .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 09:18 PM
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So do you imagine your broke attractive man to be really talented in someway and on his way to success . rather than someone on a minimum wage , who will stay on one ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:28 PM
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I appreciate your honesty .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:27 PM
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Would you not have a baby, have a baby in poverty or support the whole family?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:41 PM
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Can you tell us what your answer is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 06:40 PM
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Where is your evidence that feminists circulated other statistics to "protect female privledge?" Ok, I'll answer even though you are clearly being dishonest (standard for feminists) because I never said feminists were circulating other statistics to protect female privilege , I just pointed out the source of that lie that family law doesn't privilege women . Off the top of my head - primary aggressor laws that were introduced because too many women were thought to be arrested for DV , on the bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 07:56 AM
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The majority of child custody arrangements are agreed upon without court intervention. Because most men cannot afford to take on that female privilege in court . When men do file for custody of their kids, they get it about 50% of time. No , this is a lies about a study that feminists circulated in order to attempt to protect female privilege . http://www.breakingthescience.org/SJC_GBC_analysis_intro.php
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:51 PM
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Women tend to enjoy being women . Western women are privileged in the same ways class and race privilege works , being treated as children is apparently a privilege that the official movement for women women supports .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 11:44 PM
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Another fake crisis . There are many untested kits , because they aren't tested if the person doesn't want to press charges .
/r/MensRights30/06/15 09:12 AM
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They make a false campaign , then while knowing its false a bunch of them pretend that it isn't . Standard behaviour from the people that say a significant number of women don't have an issue with making false accusations .
/r/MensRights29/06/15 09:06 PM
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Nah it was years ago . They aren't as ban happy as feminists though ... if thats whats being got at here on this thread .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 07:38 PM
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Letting someone know you are interested is initiating / perusing - with the intent of something further .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 06:29 PM
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Women initiate with the guys they want . They will catch your eye an hold it for example .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 06:20 PM
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Also his level of harsh judgement of people that have normal sex lives was obviously coming from a position of scarcity . If sex is normal to a person , they don't perceive it abnormal and worthy of contempt when others are doing it .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:47 PM
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Mocking the slut shaming . I remember one egit describing himself to me as a "man of high value" - oh really, so if you are so in demand sexually , why do you get so bent out of shape about "sluts" .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 04:29 PM
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Ok . So you use deceptive female game tricks to artificially inflate your SMV which then leads to you having dates with wealthier and more attractive men that you would other wise ... but you feel entitled to have him contribute to your costs of deceiving him . You are the one doing better than you would have otherwise done , not him so you should pay the dates .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 07:35 AM
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Break up with him and move on . This is /r/mensrights , we don't really do relationship advice for women .
/r/MensRights29/06/15 07:29 AM
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Im not saying it sounds like decent discourse . I'm saying we as a group should know what it is supposed to be before making arguments against it , that way we can be effective .
/r/MensRights28/06/15 07:09 PM
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As I said , find out what it is , then make the devastating arguments against it , anything else is pissing in the wind .
/r/MensRights28/06/15 03:54 PM
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Yes .
/r/MensRights28/06/15 03:53 PM
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Its a catch 22 really , or a symbotic relationship - if we are not taking advantage of these mainstream comments sections , we are not getting better at being mra's and not getting the word out there the cheapest and easiest way ( its one of the few ways we can ) .
/r/MensRights28/06/15 12:42 PM
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rape is considered amongthe most hideous crime See , you don't know what it is ... they do not say violent stranger rape isn't generally legal and not seen as a serious crime in the first place , so there is no point in making that part of a counter argument .
/r/MensRights28/06/15 09:05 AM
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No , my point is that so long as mra's don't know what it is , we cannot make relevant arguments against it . Mra's tend to agree with the existence of a lot of it , the ways prison rape and rapes by women are treated for example , we just don't know what we agree with and what is nonsense because we don't know what it is .
/r/MensRights28/06/15 08:58 AM
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Ask in one of the feminist areas on reddit that don't instantly ban non feminists . You are probably better reading first and knowing what rape culture is , then identifying a solid argument than you are showing up with next to no information about what it is .
/r/MensRights28/06/15 08:11 AM
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If winning at life can = being a prostitute (Im not saying that it can't) , yes .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/15 07:40 AM
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Then go and ask them .
/r/MensRights28/06/15 07:32 AM
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Is far more callous to intentionally have many unwanted babies in poverty through callously denying people family planning . And you probably don't realise this , the sort of things you drop in here to say about other people , are among the most callous I've seen here .
/r/MensRights27/06/15 11:46 AM
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You are that as if your feeling are universal in all men .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/15 10:47 AM
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I posted that article on /r/oney and what I got was men arguing why there is no need to fight it .
/r/MensRights27/06/15 06:59 AM
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Maybe someones trying to link drones to something positive .
/r/MensRights26/06/15 08:16 PM
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Shit , hope its a mistake . I posted that article in oney , and the people there started acting as he described .
/r/MensRights26/06/15 07:41 PM
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I was just telling you what it was like 4 years ago .
/r/MensRights26/06/15 06:59 PM
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The sad part is that if the boys bothered to engage themselves in the issue--if they'd bother to speak up--they'd have ample ammunition to attack the "rape culture" idiocy. Same goes for the majority of us , a little bit of fact finding can yield devastating arguments against it ... but this movement for the most part has been talking about some irrelevant man in a money suit deliberately asking to be mugged instead , or some variation of it instead .
/r/MensRights26/06/15 10:20 AM
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It doesn't come from rp - slut shaming and sexual double standards come from female game .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:59 AM
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Its internalized social shaming . or are women naturally not meant to be promiscuous? This is obviously irrational nonsense , and women are naturally designed to spend many men during ovulation .
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 08:58 AM
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Nah there was just a lot of "if you don't want to get raped don't dress like a whore" type comments and posts back then . These days there is a watered down version - an analogy with a drunk man in a money suit deliberately asking for it .
/r/MensRights26/06/15 08:54 AM
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Yes I know most psychopaths don't behave that like, the rape prevention advise is still irrelevant and inaccurate. Men can be raped. With the advice being much the same with the addition of "don't go to US prision". Right, if mra's are going to give out unsolicited, unprofessional prevention advice to anyone it should be men - even if its going to be blaming people for their rapes by saying "don't go to US prision" .
/r/MensRights25/06/15 05:06 PM
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If you were here when the slut walk started you would have seen a lot of mra's making those same arguments. The man in a money suit who is clearly asking for it analogy that mra's use is a variation of this thinking .
/r/MensRights25/06/15 05:02 PM
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Psychopaths that jump out of bushes and sexually assault people are rare . There is no need or benefit for mra's to become rape prevention advisers . Its non nonsensical .
/r/MensRights25/06/15 04:56 PM
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Right, I'm corrected - the point remains - why are mra's giving out inaccurate rape prevention information? There are not 4 people jumping out of bushes assaulting people , to suggest that there are not one but 4 of these rare psychopaths running around the one campus is hysterical.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 04:40 PM
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Male virgin shaming is a possibility . Sexually shaming people for normal sexual stuff like having sex or not having sex is retarded and infatile, all people have to do is realize that and then stop doing it , then it's done. Most people already know sexually shaming women is retarded .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 07:44 AM
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The prevention advice is going to mislead people to believe the rapes were the violent stranger type (more rare than murder). These rape claims are likely the usual drunken hook up regret type, and/or outright the false claim that are fashionable at the moment .
/r/MensRights25/06/15 07:38 AM
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They are talking about gender, not biological sex.
/r/MensRights25/06/15 07:33 AM
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Shes a b or c list model, you can tell that without deceptive female game tricks she can look much less attractive and buck toothed (she was probably more so in the past) than she does in her pictures, who married someone of a higher professional status and pay grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 06:45 AM
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Shes a b or c list model, who married someone of a higher professional status and pay grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 06:45 AM
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ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:35 PM
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I have no sound the moment so don't under stand why this is here, whats it got to do with us?
/r/MensRights23/06/15 07:14 PM
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Yeah, a significant portion of them are highly irrational about women . Comes from you know "women seem wicked when you're .... etc" and traditionalist delusions .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 03:54 PM
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Yeah, I thought so . Its a great way of pointing out how "patriarchal" they really are, imo.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 03:50 PM
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I'm not a red piller. Anyhow, a red piller could simultaneously want a woman to stay at home (this is what most women want when they can afford it and get older anyway) ... and point out that women have most of societies money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 06:15 AM
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Single mothers, numerous special programs for women (vawa alone is 1.25billion a year), women's extra health care costs. A finish (I think) study found that men put more into the system than they took out and the reverse is true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 12:31 AM
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I think she borrowed "fainting couch" from gww, I could be wrong though.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 12:22 AM
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Your point about transfers, while notable, is the result of Men being the breadwinners. Not all of it. Single men are transferring resources to single women, via the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 12:16 AM
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My comment was pointing out that women have more of societies money anyway. Regardless of what the on paper wage gap looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:21 PM
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Right. I'm saying even with the wage gap as it is, women get more money than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:13 PM
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The suffragettes were campaigning for universal suffrage for women only before men had it. The vote for women was held back by them ... because the government didnt want to be seen to be giving in to terrorism. They were also racists. Its a good policy to never take any feminist narrative at face value.
/r/MensRights22/06/15 08:58 PM
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Women already get more than men, via the married men that earn more sharing their wages with the women that earn less + all other state promoted male to female transfers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 06:14 PM
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The main post is about men sex drive v's women's. Womens is artificially suppressed. For example women in the 1800s that couldn't even cum v's women today that can spend a room full of the most virile men in the world - women were designed to spend multiple men during ovulation. A guy that has a slut shaming mentality , along with girl that is sensitive to being seen as a slut - will think there is some vast difference between male and female sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 04:23 PM
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The male sex drive was never so artificially suppressed with shaming that men couldn't cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 04:11 PM
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Depends on the conditions. In the 1800s female sexually was so artificially suppressed they couldn't have orgasms. Today you have porn stars and swinger women that can spend a room full of the horniest guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 04:11 PM
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You are saying that women calling men pussy cats and sneering at nice guys is just male perception. Might be true - but likely isn't because its feminist women sneering at these guys today. You also stated that women couldn't be responsible for traditionalism. You are erasing women's agency and are implying that all these men including film makers are wrong about womens treatment of push over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 12:33 PM
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That study hasn't been torn to shreds. Wow, you're in deep, here. The traditional mindset in American society, IE don't have premarital sex, get married, have 2.5 kids, be subservient to your husband, is a result of Christianity/religion. Which has been around in full swing for at least 1000 years. And this is based around protecting and providing for women. Women have been the main adherents to religions, because what they preach was what was in women's best interests at the time. And see the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 12:22 PM
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INTP - T http://www.16personalities.com/intp-personality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 07:54 AM
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80's on, maybe? The ones I'm thinking of would be breakfast at tiffiniys era and before. "Pussycat" is vintage american slang. Earlier women DID NOT invent the traditional mindset. Why not? Women have been socializing the children all along - women are shaping society today, so why not yesterday? And there is this. http://www.austin-institute.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Cultural-Suppression-of-Female-Sexuality.pdf I think you have a feminist / traditionalist mind set and don't think women can…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:52 AM
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And I agreed by saying just look at the women sneering at nice guys in old movies. You then tried to say that was mens fault (the male movie makers). I pointed out that women (feminist women) are still hating on this type of guy. Feminists didn't invent it, earlier women did, feminists are the ones carrying the torch today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 11:29 PM
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Ah, when I said op - I meant you. I said to look back at the old movies and how women sneered at nice guys and it went from there. You said it was male perception in the movies. I pointed out these guys are still being hated on today - by feminist women and their male lapdogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 08:22 PM
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The op is trying to say male film makers invented the meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 07:35 PM
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Right - but women are still hating on these guys today - the nice guys so ...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 07:20 PM
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Movies that reflect cultural memes of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 07:06 PM
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Look at the old movies - supplicating guys were sneered at and called "pussy cats" by women, which is likely where this idea of people calling each other pussies came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/15 10:59 AM
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Yes, the best thing you can do is get facts, learn how to be effective when you are posting in some comments section , tell your friends and point out things you think you should .
/r/MensRights20/06/15 09:41 AM
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Wow!
/r/MensRights19/06/15 07:15 PM
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Mra's read niche womens forums? Nah, I was more talking about cosmo, the best seller "the rules", acting coy, knowing how to make a guy jealous, the plate spinning in sex and the city, a bajillion how to get a man to x, y z articles etc ... no girl reaches their 20s without being exposed to it. If men start doing the same stuff and talking about it on a niche mens forum people start losing their minds. Its traditional sexism in peoples minds that's responsive for the double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 06:31 PM
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This cannot be true, or someone higher up is joking around! That has no bearing on how their theory works at all.
/r/MensRights19/06/15 05:32 PM
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That already exists in female culture. There is so much of it people don't even see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 05:16 PM
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You say that as if they have some objective to run non discriminatory services that that dont work off the ideology that only men rape in the future, thats not going to happen.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 10:02 PM
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They erase female rapists and their victims.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 09:54 PM
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That is good, nice one!
/r/MensRights18/06/15 08:38 PM
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People like sex, get over it /r/trp
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 06:46 PM
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It isn't actually intellectual, none of the people taking part in it know what their rape culture theory is saying. If mra's want to dismantle it intellectually instead of stramanning it (for example paul talked about prison as if prison rape isn't already part of their theory), we have to know what its saying first.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 07:09 AM
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Expect to see even more money for VAWA if she gets elected.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 07:03 AM
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So, if one group of people can rape without adequate consequences (or even without consequences at all) - is this the indication that rape culture exists indeed and this group of people - women? Right, I think this is exactly the sort of thing we need to focusing on as counter arguments, instead of that rich man in a money suit nonsense. They cannot argue with it because their theory even covers women raping not being seen as real rape. btw you are assuming that rape culture and normalization me…
/r/MensRights17/06/15 08:36 PM
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You are very naive. Fox is about demagoguery and pitting right against left, its not some altruistic endeavor. teh rights of the accused. Man hating feminist with contempt for fair legal rights for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 07:39 PM
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Women aren't judged for red pill behaviour (I don't think your example is red pill behaviour - its just the normal you go girl stuff that women egg each other to do). Its out in the open and normal in female culture to the point people don't realize that red pill is nothing women aren't doing freely and without criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/15 04:33 PM
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Their front page has anti feminist questions on it and even if theydo ban easily. Its better to post there, than it is a sub with an insta ban policy and then making a second post here complaining about a ban from a sub that has a policy to instantly ban non feminists, because before they had that policy we over came their sub with challenges and questions. I don't know why this sub can't see the logic of that.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 03:54 PM
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I don't need to, the front page has anti-feminist questions on it.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 03:51 PM
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Ok, well keep directing questions to feminists here and in the /r/feminism, where they will be instantly be banned if that's what you think it best.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 08:55 AM
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Wow you have a low opinion of the MRM. You sound like a feminist. Its just a fact that mra's have tended to debate rape culture at that facile and retarded level for years now. I have a low opinion of mra's that have not learned to run rings feminists in public. I have a lower opinion of you now that you have conformed you are against mra's sharpening their skills with academic feminists and would rather see them posting where there is an instaban and then complaining about it here over and over…
/r/MensRights17/06/15 08:53 AM
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because you broke their rules by asking the question the wrong place.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 10:15 PM
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They ban from both if you break the rules in /r/feminism.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 10:10 PM
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Yeah, its prolly better to stick with what we usually do and direct questions to feminists here or in /r/feminism where the is a policy to delete non feminist questions as opposed to their sub for asking non feminist questions.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 09:49 PM
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these all stem from the traditional mindset that women are children that need to be coddled. Thats also the progressive / feminist mindset - for one of many examples the "safe space" and "trigger" nonsense associated with ideas and evidence that contradict feminist beliefs. women, for instance, rarely have any control over finances and are assumed to be the care-takers rather than providers. Women make most of the purchasing decisions and have the most money - you have the 25/75 wage gap, with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:07 PM
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No, only one of them does, the second was set up for challenges and questions. MRAs in general seem to feel that its best to ignore the one for non feminist questions and post exclusively to the one that has the policy to instantly delete non feminist opinion and questions.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 09:01 PM
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/r/askfeminists
/r/MensRights16/06/15 08:59 PM
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If you ask the standard mra question - why are women not responsible when they are raped or some other bs that's been answered 100s of times, you might be banned, or if you post some aggressive nonsense ... but its absolutely possible to hold anti feminist positions. I worry for this movement that we are getting so retarded that people will actually argue that posting in a place with an insta ban policy is better than posting somewhere that doesn't.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 05:01 PM
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Its obviously not correct, all anyone has to do is read the sub to see.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 04:47 PM
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Right, most of the self identified feminists don't know what it is, mra's dont know either - yet both speak about it as if they do.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 08:27 AM
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Incorrect.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 08:26 AM
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If it didn't allow them, there wouldn't be loads of them there. Its not better to post non feminist questions somewhere with a policy to delete and ban non feminist questions, than one that obviously allows them.
/r/MensRights16/06/15 08:26 AM
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I see it as something more sinister - like it being turned around into an argument against men being on campus.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 11:54 PM
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So its better to post non feminist questions at a place with a policy for instantly banning non feminist questions and have a constant stream of whining posts here about the bans, than it is to post at another that clearly allows them.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 10:25 PM
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So its better to post non feminist questions at a place with a policy for instantly banning non feminist questions and have a constant stream of whining posts here about the bans, than it is to post at another that clearly allows them.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 10:25 PM
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I didn't say they were talking about preventing it, I said its part of of their rape culture theory.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 10:24 PM
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The place is full of non feminist commentary and questions.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 10:22 PM
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You keep saying this - that its better to post non feminist questions at a place with a policy for instantly banning non feminist questions and have a constant stream of whining posts here about the bans, than it is to post at another that clearly allows them. That's just your opinion, and a rather odd one.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 08:02 PM
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I think Elam is great and I'm grateful for everything he has done for this movement. I do find it really irritating that even big dog mra's like him cannot speak about "rape culture" without giving away that they have little to know idea what the theory is saying. Prison rape, and the notion that men cannot be raped is part of their theory.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 06:43 PM
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Heads up to avfm and others. CTS based arguments are old hat. DV debate is now about studies on context, and its a slam dunk for mra's - yet we keep using these out of date cts studies.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 06:31 PM
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You were banned from a sub reddit that has a policy to ban non feminists, that has another sub reddit specifically for asking feminists non feminist questions.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 06:20 PM
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Slut shaming is a component of hypergamy. Women started doing it to better negotiate resources for sex.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 07:44 AM
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This is out right victim blaming. And it doesn't account for all the false accusations that are not made to avoid social shaming. I don't think the research has found much a trend for this as a motivation in the first place.
/r/MensRights15/06/15 07:43 AM
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They never classified us as hate groups, don't let feminists push that lie.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 06:49 AM
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You find it hard to believe because people on reddit falsely accuse red pillers (and mra's) of being neckbeards. btw - tbp was a started by a neckbeard with manboobz who is very chivalrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/15 02:38 PM
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I didnt mention what I call the accessories, I did biceps after I did deads and rows yesterday, Ill to triceps after chest and shoulders today - that's what I usually do. I too like being all pumped and veiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 07:57 AM
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Its true, we have more "diversity" than the general population, thats come up in few different surveys over the years - but we don't have divisions to go along with it, so unlike feminists we are not divided into a hierarchy along multiple fault lines.
/r/MensRights09/06/15 07:06 AM
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Yeah, I think you nailed the process for a good % of them . In the same vein, there is a section of people that took "just be nice" to mean niceness is what causes attraction, therefore if they are nice, then they will create a relationship. In reality when the advice "just be nice" is given, they have people that they are attracted to in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/15 07:00 AM
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I wouldn't give them any credit for that. If they stopped censoring mgm and insisting that its so different and that its correct to speak about / legislate against one and not the other would be their bare minimum expectation from me.
/r/MensRights09/06/15 06:44 AM
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Sort of. Because of the overall sexism in rape culture, men do not get raped. That is, of course they get raped, but because of the way rape victims are seen by society, men who are raped are either ignored or labeled as sissy, or gay, or simply weak, in order to maintain the illusion that "men do not get raped". And in the same vein, women can't rape men. Men, society teaches, are always horny, always seeking the next conquest and always ready for sex. So how could they be raped? Because of the…
/r/MensRights09/06/15 06:40 AM
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I notice I'm getting harder and bigger and I carry myself differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 10:01 PM
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deadlifts, rows, shoulder press, bench, squats ... was lifting 6 x 5, now 8 - 10 by 4
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 09:56 PM
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The main compound lifts mainly, but I dont have access to a squat rack. I was lifting heavy (6) for the first six months now its 8 - 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 09:47 PM
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You should have seen the drama when they did it, there were txers using sockpuppet accounts to make threats against themselves and then reporting them to the admins.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 08:41 PM
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Sounds good. A way to go about it might be just to adopt that style yourself and publish in comments sections often.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:45 PM
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Her interview opens with an obvious lie I had no idea it would get noticed by anyone when I first made it.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 05:01 PM
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I did cardio, then kettle bells combined with body weight training ... now I weighlift and walk - I've been doing that for six months. Lifting has no particular special effect in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/15 04:09 PM
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Its included in the feminist rape culture thing.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 03:51 PM
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Yes, subjective is different from objective. If something that isn't porn, and porn is printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate sexual excitement. sexually stimulates someone, it doesn't magically make it porn, or the producers of it pornographers. You should stop this nonsense of trying to argue that it does.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 03:45 PM
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Fucking animals doesn't work as an analogy, there is no history of people blaming animals behaviour for their being fucked by humans, or animals lives and freedoms being limited because some people fuck them. And we aren't taught not fuck animals anyway, there is no evidence of people being taught not to fuck animals. Can you show where don't date rape prevention has been traditionally taught? Like similar crimes is ? Can you show evidence of this absurd sounding movement against personal respon…
/r/MensRights08/06/15 03:44 PM
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You don't know that the word porn means. You think it if someone masturbated to anything, it becomes porn and makers pornographers. Thats not what makes something porn.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 07:05 AM
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I am getting it, You think that if someone mis percieves something that it not porn as porn, that makes it porn.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 07:02 AM
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I wasn't talking about the rape claim. Im talking about the sterile video, that is depicting actual rape. That is not porn, and that doesn't magically turn into porn if someone masturbated to it.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 07:01 AM
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The mrm takes the position that this stuff doesn't happen, when its called "rape culture", then we complain that it does happen when its not.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:49 AM
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Feminists are false accusers, false accusations are rewarded in feminist culture.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:46 AM
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No. Just because someone perceives something as true, doesn't mean that it is true for everyone else. Exactly. So if some idiot watches that film or some innocent pictures of children. and thinks its porn when it clearly isn't, it doesn't mean that it is porn and the makers are pornographers, it means that person is experiencing ignorance or delusions.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:34 AM
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Can you point to where not to date rape has been traditionally taught? Show an example from before feminists made date rape a known thing in the minds of the public and when the public thought of rape as an obvious psycho in an alley violently raping someone.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:24 AM
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I literally am not, I'm saying there is no such as the movement or agenda against personal safety at all in the first place. You can search all you want, you will never find this imaginary movement. I am literally saying despite being here years, you don't know what you are talking about and that you should find out, it only takes 5 mins - as opposed to refusing to and stubbornly arguing for days about what you don't know. Better than laboring under the illusion that giving out rape prevention a…
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:23 AM
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I understand what you are saying perfectly. You believe that if someone percieves something that is not porn, as sexually stimulating it makes it porn and the makers pornographers. So if someone jerks of to innocent pictures of kids on face book, it means the pictures are porn and the people that put the pictures there distributed child porn. You are wrong.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:23 AM
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This isn't a video of an actual rape. Right, its a depiction of an alleged one.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:22 AM
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To them it does. So you are saying they are delusional and believe the images were made especially to sexually stimulate them by pornographers. If someone percieves something that is not porn, as porn it doesn't make it porn or the makers pornographers.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 06:20 AM
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Can you point to where not to date rape has been traditionally taught? Show an example from before feminists made date rape a known thing in the minds of the public and when the public thought of rape as an obvious psycho in an alley violently raping someone.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 05:23 PM
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I'm not promoting the notion of a true feminist. Im saying that if you spent 5mins finding out what "victim blaming" is about, you would understand why mra's fighting against a movement against safety by giving rape prevention advice is stupid. You would also be able to make relevant counter arguments. edit for clarity.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 05:21 PM
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You really are stupid. If someone gets aroused by that that film, it suddenly changes into porn and the people involves in it into pornographers. Do you believe that of you look at an apple, and perceive it as a pear, than its really pear that grew on an actual pear tree?
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:49 PM
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No, because one is intended to be sexual fantasy and is designed to sexually stimulate, that's what makes it porn. Do you understand the difference between couples playing rape, and an actual rape?
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:46 PM
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To them, subjectively, it is porn. They use it as porn. That doesn't make it porn. If it did, the producers would be pornographers and they made it to deliberately sexually stimulate someone. If someone jerks off to a picture of a ladies shoe, that doesn't make it porn.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:44 PM
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Porn is performance art designed to sexually stimulate. The video that girl made is not porn.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:43 PM
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But what people jerk off to isn't dependant on intent. That is the whole point. So whether something is labelled as porn or not, is entirely irrelevant to the actual outcome. Exactly, so if some sick fucker is jerking off to that video, that is not what makes it porn. What makes porn, porn - is making it to intentionally sexually stimulate people. So why do you want to label this porn? Is it to make mra's look like sick fucks?
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:13 PM
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Its not, its a depiction representative of real rape.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:11 PM
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I am invalidating your opinion that intent matters to the outcome. It doesn't. Thats not my position. My position is pornography is determined by the intent. You are saying that if someone jerk off to something that is not pornography, then it becomes porn. You are arguing that if a someone jerks off to innocent children on face book, that makes the photos porn. If those photo are porn, then the people that took them are pornographers according to your logic.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:11 PM
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You are representing mra's here, and arguing that sterile video depicting a real rape as opposed to porn scene where its play rape, is porn to you. Thats a serious smear of mras - the sort of thing feminists would love to quote.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:04 PM
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Its not a strawman - you are saying pedophiles jerking off to children on face book are looking at porn, because they are jerking off to it. So this makes the people that took put the pictures pornographers, according to your logic. You are making the same argument about the video showing a depiction of a real rape. That someones jerking off to it, which is pretty sick - is what makes it porn.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 02:04 PM
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Are you a feminist troll here trying to create a narrative that mra's jerk off to sterile depictions of real rape? If not, you really should rethink yourself - because you are conforming to feminist claims about mra's and rape culture.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 01:39 PM
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According to you it is. But if the person is masturbating to any photos of children, would it not be considered child porn regardless of intent? Or do you think that people jerking off to Facebook photos of little kids is nothing? People jerking off to innocent children on face book, aren't jerking off to pornography you idiot. And these people are arrested because they represent a threat to children, not because innocent photos are pornography. I can't believe you are saying people that post in…
/r/MensRights07/06/15 01:15 PM
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Look, if you get aroused by that video, innocent picture of kids at the beach, or a sears catalog or medical documentary that's your subjective position. Your subjective position doesn't determine whether these things are pornography or not. What determines it as pornography is whether or not it was produced for the intent of sexual stimulation.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 01:13 PM
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Not all of it. There are people who have been convicted with just having innocent photos of children who were not in sexual positions, or being under-dressed. This is an unfair conviction if its not child porn. That's why your baby photos in the bath aren't porn, because they are not. Unless you believe your mother is a pedophile pornographer and you are a victim of child porn. Just because you chose to define pornography in one specific way, I don't make up the definitions you idiot. They are i…
/r/MensRights07/06/15 12:55 PM
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This isn't really mens rights.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 11:31 AM
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Yes I know. Thats why I was saying A better question is if patriarchy is the reason there are no shelters for men, is feminism patriarchal because feminism has been opposing the inclusion of men and hiding the statistics on female to male abuse since the 1970s.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 08:35 AM
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You could have saved us both a lot of time, had you just done your due diligence. How long do you plan on being an mra and talking about victim blaming and rape culture without knowing what it is when it only takes just 5 mins to find out? If you go into my history you can see I submitted a thread linking to one of their sites that describes rape culture and one of reasons they accuse people of "victim blaming". If you read it, you can finding out what their arguments are and how to debunk them.…
/r/MensRights07/06/15 08:33 AM
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Im not trying to over analyse it. Im just pointing the differences between it and the manboobz style lies that are being told about it here.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 08:28 AM
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The film is not designed to sexually stimulate the watcher, its designed to depict a rape, for other reasons.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 08:27 AM
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No. If that were true, then a lot of people wouldn't be convicted of child porn. Child porn is produced to sexually stimulate pedophiles. The murder analogies are irrelevant. So porn is performance art. If you want to combine both definitions, then she is doing a performance art porn piece. Porn is designed to sexually stimulate people, that's what makes it porn. This is a film that depicts an actual rape - if people are getting off on this, its a very poor reflection on them that supports femin…
/r/MensRights07/06/15 08:26 AM
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No a no true Scotsman is different. If you knew about it, you wouldn't think there is an agenda against personal safety or think that analogy with the ridiculous character waving money around was relevant. You just misunderstand a slogan and argue against that.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 04:57 PM
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Thats a conspiracy theory channel thats about ripping off the gullible. Its not mens rights.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 04:36 PM
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Its not porn. : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement 2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement 3 : the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <the pornography of violence> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pornography Just because dummies here are masturbating to it like as you say some kid would a sears ca…
/r/MensRights06/06/15 04:00 PM
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You don't know what it is. You engage it at the most facile level as do most mras - the imaginary movement against personal safety, the fact sjws call people victim blamers ... the stupid anology of the guy waving money around that has no relevance to their argument ... you don't know what the "victim blaming" argument is about.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 03:58 PM
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You are right though, they are skirting around it.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 12:52 PM
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Its not going to be an elephant in the room to a lot of people. Its being an elephant in the room is subjective. Sex isn't inherently an elephant in the room.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 12:46 PM
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What do you want them to say? Confuse it for and describe it as if its porn like people here are tending to do? It says it depicts sex acts ... sex acts are blow jobs, sex etc.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 12:20 PM
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What are you talking about? They say its depicting a sexual encounter.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 11:24 AM
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Their answer to that is that feminism is for women and men should do these things for themselves. A better question is if patriarchy is the reason there are no shelters for men, is feminism patriarchal because feminism has been opposing the inclusion of men and hiding the statistics on female to male abuse since the 1970s.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 11:14 AM
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They are nothing if not predictable. When are people going to take feminists to task for making the women's movement and false accusations synonymous?
/r/MensRights06/06/15 11:10 AM
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That's sad that you think so. You think its sad that I am sexually mature enough to differentiate between that and porn. I think its sad that you can't.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 09:51 AM
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Like I said. Just because the intent is different, doesn't mean the outcome is different. Sure, someone can jerk off to a medical documentary. It doesn't make it porn. If someone is turned on by a naked woman's body being operated on or giving birth, did that woman perform porn? No. For it to be porn, it has to intended to sexually stimulate.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 09:47 AM
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It was sent up by a well known feminist - and most of the outage is because trp has discussions that are considered heretical by feminists (criticizing women for example, thats a big no no for feminists because women are a really special upper class in their minds) - unless its the same sort of discussion of men by women. Then it just flys under the bp radar as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 09:33 AM
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Im not lying. Its well known among people that actually know about this stuff, that reenactment is common. People that don't might think its not and that it would never happen, as you did - which is understandable. My pointing out something you said is incorrect is no reason to go all sjw. If you use that argument anywhere but this or a similar echo chamber - your argument won't work.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 08:52 AM
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I never claimed that its common for people to do it front of the camera and post it on the internet. Although the porn industry is supposed to have plenty of people that experienced sexual trauma. Your claim that reenactment is proof that it never happened is off.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 08:16 AM
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No abuse porn doesn't do the same thing, abuse porn is designed to sexually stimulate. That film she made is closer to a medical documentary.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 08:12 AM
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You know you're right - this group on average could easily just be making more by doing the same or less work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/15 07:25 AM
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Its not designed to sexually stimulate. The point of it is to illustrate how someone can consent and be keen for sex and then it become rape.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 07:11 AM
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I don't know the %. Im not saying she is not lying - I'm just pointing out that people that people where traumatized will reenact the traumatic event. https://www.uic.edu/classes/psych/psych270/PTSD.htm Its been known about since freud started looking into it. Disagreeing with something another mra said that is factually incorrect doesn't make me a feminist either - "your kind" are a cancer in this movement, same group think behaviour as the feminists.
/r/MensRights06/06/15 07:09 AM
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Its not porn.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 11:45 PM
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Why do women earn less? because they work less, what happens when they work more? They earn more. Drawing the conclusion that a large group has more income because they are working more shouldn't be controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:39 PM
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Its actually fairly common for people that have been raped to reenact it with future partners in some way.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 11:34 PM
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No she didn't. printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate sexual excitement. https://www.google.ie/?gws_rd=cr&ei=OTByVZtC5N3uBqXTgrAJ#q=pornography+definition
/r/MensRights05/06/15 11:30 PM
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Its not possible that divorced men on average find that being single just allows them to change jobs to one that's better. If its happening across the board something is motivating these men to earn more money. If being divorced means they can travel further and stay over night to earn more, which I'm sure is true for some, its still working more including travel. Edited.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:17 PM
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Are you asking why he is working more, or why income goes up as a result of more work?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:11 PM
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OPs words. Jenkins's research found that the incomes of "separating husbands" rise "immediately and continuously" in the years following a marital split. When a person works more, their income goes up, see?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:09 PM
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Wait - at its worst it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 10:32 PM
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If you are 30 and have 15 as a count, you aren't really a slut. imo. I'm a guy and I'd had more than that by the time I reached my 20s. Many of these rp guys will think 15 over 10 -15 years is something shocking - this is due to their own scarcity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 08:56 PM
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Its not murky. Women have reproductive law dominance, a sentencing discount greater than the white v's black discount. Divorce favors women. The education system slanted in their favor and there much cheering about the success of it. Longer lives, the right to genital integrity, quotas to ensure they have an easier ride into prestige positions fewer women than men strive for, no pressure or quotas to go into dangerous and dirty jobs dominated by men, women get far more empathy ... it just goes o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 06:08 PM
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One was you accusing me of building a strawman, the next was your ridiculous strawman character who literally gets themselves mugged by behaving in ways no person would. Find out what their rape culture / victim blaming thing is about. Having a facile understanding of it can only lead to facile counter arguments. There are much better ways to debunk them than bickering about rape prevention advice under the illusion there is some absurd agenda against personal safety.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 04:26 PM
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I never assumed that everything was going be smooth. Or have a plan in place to sync the effects and alleviate the hardships until equilibrium is reached. Earth shattering. I'm pretty sure these things are already being worried about and plans are being put in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 04:25 PM
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Thats actually demonstrably true, men do have fewer rights and privileges than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 04:23 PM
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You editorialized what I said. The only alternative to avoid the difficulties is blocking evolution and flat earthing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:29 PM
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First you say Strawman. Then you say Announce you were mugged after putting on your finest clothes and jewelry then walking alone through the bad part of town at midnight waving hundred dollar bills around. Think anyone would say you kinda had it coming? No I don't expect you to acknowledge this. Check your self awareness.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 12:25 PM
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Can you point to where don't date rape is taught? Or even to where it was known to be rape before new feminist activism? For theft and assault? Yeah that's true. And it's a good way to avoid it happening again People already know, without dummies saying "why didn't you x, y z".
/r/MensRights05/06/15 12:22 PM
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The work that is going to automation is stuff like waitress, nurse, trash collection - exports are already well automated. You are making an assumption that all of this is going to be perfectly synchronized which I doubt. No, its going to be a shit storm. What would make it impossible is successfully clinging on to archaic systems like traditionalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 12:10 PM
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With the exception of new feminists programs, point to where don't rape is taught like don't steal, don't drink and drive, don't hit other kids etc is taught. We teach both: it's wrong to steal, here are ways to avoid being a victim. No one calls this victim blaming. Right, is that because no one sees the primary issue with theft as being the behavour of its victims. Anyhow, you will still get dummies saying "why didn't you do x, y z" after the fact ...
/r/MensRights05/06/15 12:02 PM
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Sure they will but you are assuming they will be sufficiently economically developed before automation hits them. It cannot hit them before they are significantly economically developed, think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:54 AM
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Developing countries will have their birth rate slowed down due to westernization by the time they get automation taking 40% of the work. What trp sees as the threat to civilization is actually what civilization needs to do in order to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 11:46 AM
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You honestly think we don't already teach kids that rape is bad? That's patently absurd. Ok, link me to where that's done - teaching not to date rape - new feminist programs don't count. We also teach kids not to get in vans with strangers or to leave their items unattended in public and to look both ways before crossing the street even at a crosswalk. Theft prevention is taught, safe driving is taught. Clear victim blaming. We should just teach people not to kidnap, steal, or drive recklessly. …
/r/MensRights05/06/15 11:40 AM
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Having sex with people isn't considered a perversion.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 10:55 AM
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The UK like most western countries has been relying on replacement migration as an interim solution. It will not need replacement workers / population in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 10:44 AM
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Rich countries aren't going to go through a post automation crash so long as the birth and marriage rate keeps falling, and male birth control is rolled out free of charge. It would crash spectacularly of there was some sudden revert to traditionalism - but thats impossible to do so there is no point in even discussing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 10:36 AM
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TRP people cannot seem to separate poly from being humiliated, disrespected and cheated on - which I think is down to insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 09:10 AM
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No, its not. Reliable birth control for men will be rolled out free - men will jump at the chance of an easy 5 years of risk free sex at a time and the rate of children born in fatherless homes will drop back to previous levels. Technology will lead to a 40% reduction in available jobs. If there was a move back to traditionalism (which would be impossible to do and pol pot-esque ) there would be serious over population and unemployment problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 09:00 AM
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That trp over estimates the divorce rape rate. Divorce stats count people in their 3rd or even fourth divorce and only a small % of divorcees are tying up the courts with high conflict divorces. I believe trp is wrong about civilization collapsing due to birth rates - soon there will be a 40% reduction of available jobs carried out by humans. I believe that tbp is right that a substantial amount of slut shaming done on trp is down to insecurity and sexual scarcity. TRP thought tends to be conser…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 08:40 AM
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Hard to work with a flat out "nu uh" to any opposing thoughts. Its patiently obvious that teaching kindergarten age kids about not stealing, hurting etc and the earlier religious teaching on committing crimes revolves primarily around teaching people not to do it. Same goes for teaching adults about drink driving, it revolves around teaching people not to do it. Same goes for following any sort of rules and regulations. It does not revolve primarily around telling innocent people to change their…
/r/MensRights05/06/15 07:17 AM
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I read the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/15 07:14 AM
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There absolutely is a movement by some feminists to oppose any common sense approach to rape prevention. Nope, there is an agenda to make it more like prevention of other crimes. There is no agenda to oppose any common sense approach, thats just what mra's think because we don't know what feminist arguments actually are, we just misinterpret slogans and then think giving out rape prevention advice to women is relevant to us.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 11:05 PM
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There are/were boys clubs and harassment in prestige jobs, are there is a lots of activism around getting women into those.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 10:55 PM
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No strength isn't everything. But if you have to brick carriers of equal intelligence - the one who can carry more is cheaper. I'm arguing with someone else about how women don't like low status jobs or entry level jobs They tend not to go into these jobs that's why they are not doing them in any numbers, and why the movement for women puts nothing into getting them in to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 10:25 PM
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So someone secretly filmed someone out of their minds and circulated the tapes to hurt her ... and she tried to have them charged with rape, and now is having them charged with revenge porn ...
/r/MensRights04/06/15 09:46 PM
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So she was out of her mind and secretly filmed - and he used the film to hurt her afterwards and she tried to have him charged with rape. I can see how someone would fight back like that, or consider that a rape.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 09:43 PM
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I am getting it. The YMCA might well give out cpr lessons - the mrm still has no connection to giving rape prevention advice to women, except in the misunderstanding of various slogans. There is still no such thing as a rape epidemic and there is no such thing as a movement against personal safety.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 09:36 PM
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The the firm that are representing her in this "revenge porn" case coined the term date rape, therefore its a rape case. Your don't have to say something to say something. She is clearly implying that he raped her. Was intoxicated, doesn't remember videotaped without consent, hired the lawyer who coined the term "DATE RAPE". Before you call someone a liar back it up with facts like I just did and stop being disingenuous. She is saying that after the revenge porn, she has night mares involving he…
/r/MensRights04/06/15 09:34 PM
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So you cannot accept that the content of the article has no mention of rape, and the person is not claiming there was a rape.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 09:32 PM
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You don't buy my claim? Just look at the number of women in dirty and dangerous jobs, and the number looking for equality in those jobs. I'd rather work with a small woman who was smart and teachable, then a large man who was a bonehead. You'd get more accomplished This is not an honest argument - we are talking about people who presumably have equal mental abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 09:29 PM
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She is not crying rape. He is not being charged with rape, the case isn't a rape case. If she was crying rape, the article would have been about a rape case.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 09:28 PM
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Its not a rape claim. Its a revenge porn claim.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 04:19 PM
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She is not crying rape, she is crying revenge porn and trying to use new revenge porn legislation. When the op said she is crying rape, they lied.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 04:18 PM
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No she is not crying fowl because her past caught up with her, she didn't do anything wrong. She is crying fowl because someone published something intended to hurt her. My main point of calling her claim BS is that it is more than six years after their breakup, and more than two years after the videos were posted and now that she is losing some subscribers and money she now seemingly wants to play victim. It just seems too much like a duck to call it a dog. Then your whole point is off. She is …
/r/MensRights04/06/15 04:16 PM
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She cried revenge porn, and is using new revenge porn laws. Nobody is crying rape. The op's head line is a lie.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 04:15 PM
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She didn't cry rape. The op lied in the head line.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 04:14 PM
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Thats just some editorializing the op did. She didn't cry rape, its not a rape cause. She cried revenge porn, its a revenge porn cause using new revenge porn laws.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 04:11 PM
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This isn't a rape case.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 03:56 PM
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Rape can occur without a crises, there is no such thing as a movement against personal safety, we are not white knights. So, avfm or mra's having a position on rape prevention advice is a non sequitor, unless its being given to men - but the movement doesn't see rape of men as really an issue mostly to do the victims failure.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 03:56 PM
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Rape can occur without a crises, there is no such thing as a movement against personal safety, we are not white knights. So, avfm or mra's having a position on rape prevention advice is a non sequitor, unless it being given to men.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 03:56 PM
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Nobody in construction companies lifts insane amounts of bricks. If a rational amount of brick carrying in an all male brick carrying company is + 25% of an all female company (which would had to find because so few women would be interested) the all male company is 25% cheaper. Face it, with some exceptions women are generally to prissy and soft for that sort of work. Just look at all the special laws the movement for women advocates for women - the official movement for women even says women n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/15 03:54 PM
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Well if the legal team think they have a case - the tapes likely exist. Its a safe enough bet they do exist.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 10:31 AM
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This is the feminist argument that men aren't discriminated against because they are men, only through class and racism can men be discriminated against.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 10:29 AM
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This thread is like a manboobz thread, everything twisted in order to be outraged.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 10:28 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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