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This is what I've been trying to get people to understand. If you can understand cluster b personality disorders (narcissism, borderline, antisocial and histrionic) and extend it to all human population...it all make sense. Redpill teaches men to emulate cluster b behaviour and only people with cluster b (who are normalised by this type of behaviour) will be attracted. Healthy individuals will stay away due to being extremely confused by the interaction and also that strange feeling you have whe…
/r/ExRedPill05/11/21 02:07 AM
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Alot of the comments are really good here, they've explained the difference between entitled to sex (happens with those who waited and not waited), and those who are just respectful and wanting to get to know you better first. I think the key message here is to find out more about yourself. It sounds like you may be demisexual (wanting emotional connection first before experiencing sexual attraction) or sapiosexual (needing intellectual connection first) etc. It doesn't matter if the guy is Red …
/r/ExRedPill28/09/21 02:27 AM
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Because it's based on power and control. Stemmed from their own lack of power and control in their own lives. It never was about the relationship. Never about the women. Never about emotion, commitment or love. Asian women are the current title holder of tropes and stereotype of being submissive. Hence the redpill and incel buzz.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/21 02:27 PM
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The Redpill movement and mother-son emotional/sexual/covert incest needs to be talked about. I highly doubt a guy from a healthy family with a healthy childhood will likely to fall for the Redpill crap... I think we've all been looking through this via the sociology perspective for too long, yes its misogynistic and there is just so much more going on. we need to examine the psychology.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 12:34 PM
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I think its alot more than GAD and depression. I really wish there is more research into this. The symptoms are almost the same between the different shooter. Its a mix of narcissistic rage, cptsd, self-hate, externalized hatred, denial, delusions, grandiosity and extreme distorted thinking like in a cult but at the same time, not really like a cult member. I think there is research that insecure attachments especially fearful avoidant are highly likely to fall into cults... fearful avoidants ar…
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 12:29 PM
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This sounds like grandiosity under NPD.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 06:24 AM
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It's so sad and angry to see another one. Are there clinical studies on incel and an actual diagnosis? So clinicians know what to watch out for. So those people can get mental health treatment before doing something so stupid.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/21 06:22 AM
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Finish line? What do you mean? Is it possible to have finish line in life?
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 10:31 AM
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Contrapoints
/r/ExRedPill20/07/21 11:11 AM
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Pretty sure far right is cluster b and narcissism.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/21 11:06 AM
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I think thats the root causes, and distorted belief system (hence the RedPill Cult). They cannot comprehend relationships as anything other than power imbalances (usually stem from a complete lack of self-empowerment, self-love, self-respect) and they are projecting it onto everyone else. I do wonder if RedPillers can feel emotions anymore, or their thinking style and belief style have been hijacked completely.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/21 12:42 AM
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Usually children raised by narcissistic parents have broken attachments - insecure attachment styles (avoidant and anxious) The ones have had a neglectful childhood become dismissive-avoidant, and the ones with manipulative parents usually end up with fearful avoidant attachment styles. All insecure attachment styles run away from intimacy due to ACE experiences with their parents. The only way to maintain a relationship is through excessive control, while simultaneously pushing their partner aw…
/r/ExRedPill01/04/21 03:10 AM
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do you have the source where he said that? The one openly practicing PUA guy that I knew had a narcissistic mother. And I suspect that some of the other male friends I knew who had bad relationships with their mother and/or father have displayed PUA/Redpill tendencies.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/21 01:12 AM
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If you think every person you run into is a possible sexual encounter you erode your boundaries, and you miss out on real friends. Some go even further than that, its not just a sexual encounter, but a chance to up level in this "game" by specifically going after girls, that they think someone else likes. The whole thing is super creepy.
/r/ExRedPill10/02/21 03:09 AM
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Red pill is a mindset and a worldview. It's in line with other anti human and narcissistic worldviews. Redpillers are not going to lie about their worldview but they might try to hide it, you should be able to see gaps Ask questions related to a person's worldview and that's how you find out. So instead of remembering a list of red flags. I'd say it's more effective in finding out their worldview.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 11:01 PM
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If they haven't realized now, that women that are hitting the 30s mark are women who were in their late teens and 20s when The Game hit the shelf. It's been a decade of headaches, heartaches and dealing with losers. and now their careers are stable and at the very least just sick of dealing with PUA/RedPill losers that they've decided to stay single. 30s single women are created by the RedPill PUA movement.
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 04:25 AM
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How can a woman over thirty be anything but single, if she's "un-dateable" according to them? its their projection isnt it? :)
/r/ExRedPill06/02/21 04:21 AM
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Yep CBT and DBT would help alot
/r/ExRedPill28/01/21 04:44 AM
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Exactly. Don't settle for babies. Go for people who are willing to grow up
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 08:45 PM
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I fear for those daughters
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 11:47 AM
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I really wish the day they can make realistic human androids and just give those redpillers one of those and they can leave women alone.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 12:11 AM
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I'd say 30 is when life really begins for women, when you've finally got out of the stupid mess in the 20 and your comfort in your own skin. Maybe that's why insecure guys need to spread falsehood and rumours like this. Women in their 30 just don't have the time and energy to deal with big babies. It's a win win for women in their 30s. Insecure men are disqualifying themselves.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/21 12:03 AM
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If it's dehumanisation specifically due to the n numbers then it's very redpill. For me, I believe there is a heightened disease factor and potential unwanted pregnancies that the guy might not even know about. In conclusion, too many complications and potential trouble in the future. Say when baby mama wants the guy involved in the future or when the kid wants to get to know his biological dad etc
/r/ExRedPill24/01/21 06:13 AM
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I don't think they get laid like how redpill explains it. But rather the women who have bad childhood tend to be attracted to those guys. My question is why would a healthy man want to date women who are unhealthy?
/r/ExRedPill24/01/21 05:34 AM
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You might be demisexual. Where you can only have sex with people you have emotional bond with. Look into this. I personally cannot be with someone who have high n count. And I'm a female and demi sexual. To me it's more about difference in core values.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/21 05:27 AM
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Sounds like a story of how a narcissist is made; and how entitled mindset are created. Excellent allegory, I do wish she goes into psychological details as to why the Boy found it hard to accept the lawyers and towns people's version of the truth vs. his parents/family. This links to a deep-seated fear and painful realization: If my parents lied to me about the land, then what else would they have lied about. Parents are not meant to lie to their own children, they are meant to love and give the…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/21 01:43 AM
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I also don't think the stereotypical "submissive" women is really submissive at all. If anything they are the least submissive types with a massive facarde. The closest thing that submissiveness represents is also clinical depression.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/21 11:42 PM
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But respect isn't submissive? They are worlds apart. A person can be dominating and respect someone. A person can also be submissive and not respect anyone.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/21 11:38 PM
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do you actually believe anyone in this world is really "submissive"?
/r/ExRedPill09/01/21 11:36 PM
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Anything that deals with submission is dealing with the need for power. It says more about the men who like that kind of things and want to impose it, and what they lack in their own life, than any women. Its one of those crabs in a bucket mentality. If I can't be powerful, then neither can anyone else.
/r/ExRedPill09/01/21 11:35 PM
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I wonder if there are studies why men would follow that path of thinking, in terms of that extreme materialism and superficiality and become completely ignorant and oblivious to the emotional connection in a relationship
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 11:51 PM
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I think its the inability to fully admit to themselves that getting girls in their "current" state is hard....which ultimately leads to admitting that they are "unworthy and unloveable" as who they are at the moment. And instead of seeking real help from psychologists and get to the core of why they are unable to attract girls (and addressing the shame and guilt), they cover it up with more "lies"
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 12:57 AM
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As usual with the manosphere, too much emphasis is put on female behavior while very little is said about male contribution to divorce and other marital problems. Thats the main problem here. Its the completely inability and lack of self-insights that is basically the core of TRP. They cherry pick stats, ideas, theories and twist it to fully suit their needs and agenda.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/20 12:53 AM
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I've always wondered how men can stop their brain from produce oxytocin that bonds the man to the woman.
/r/ExRedPill29/10/20 09:23 AM
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exactly. for women, the reality is even more scary - it becomes a torture chamber.
/r/ExRedPill29/10/20 09:22 AM
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According to Laura Bates a vast network of incels and other men who hate women are able to operate, virtually undetected online. These extremists commit deliberate terrorist acts and violence against women. Vulnerable teenage boys are groomed and radicalised. In this episode Bates, the bestselling author and founder of The Everyday Sexism Project, speaks to Sonia Sodha about going undercover to expose misogynist networks and communities. Spotify link: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6f6WMqJjve6…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/20 02:55 AM
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They are addicted to control especially externalized control. This means they lack the feeling of inner peace, and feeling lack of control in their own lives. It doesn't even have to be independent women; basically anyone dares to question anything or disturb their locus of control. They rather project their hate towards women, than to do some actual self-work. I wonder how many of them come from an abusive family like this? Because anyone from an emotionally stable family will think this form o…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/20 11:53 PM
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To understand the "alpha and beta and high value and low value" mindset is to realize this mindset is a copy of someone with a narcissistic personality disorder. Narcissists cannot tolerate that they are on the "lower-end" (is inferior to others) and therefore will 1. need put those around him down and 2. will seek people with higher status to associate themselves with. The hypergamy that RPers complain about is basically a psychological projection of their own mindset. They are the ones seeking…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/20 03:44 AM
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I honestly wonder where this level of entitlement comes from? Is there a connection between RedPill and being the Golden Child for example?
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 11:16 PM
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When you blame women for everything, I doubt that's accountability. There is a major difference between accountability including understanding their own emotional need/wants like "why am I so concerned about being hot" vs. "im going to do push-ups because I'm going to be hotter and than I'm going to get all the girls" which is really like a form of self-ass-kissing and skipping over actually looking at the self problems.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 11:15 PM
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Shes explaining internalized patriarchy which is a result of living in a patriarchy society. Unfortunately deprogramming from that comes from the individual and it takes a long time. This goes for other issues like ableism, racism etc. Sexism is a toxic ideology for both sides; women usually are forced into submissive roles, and men are forced into aggressive roles.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/20 01:41 AM
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I remember reading the social research Brené Brown, who researched shame, and what she said about men and being shamed for having a weakness, especially by women they're in a relationship with, was pretty devastating. Then she went on to say even she feels disgusted by men with a "weakness", even while understanding mental health and trauma well. She explains this by societal conditioning. I have been following Brene's work for over about a decade now, and have studied CPTSD and variations too. …
/r/ExRedPill02/09/20 11:35 AM
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I'd say; I think attachment theory (so how the men attach to love interest) is a pretty good indicator. People with insecure attachment tend to partner up with other insecure attached, and hence repeat the same trauma patterns. Then it becomes really easy to say "all women are X" when those are the women they tend to attract and be attracted to in the first place. So I'd say, a portion of men (who had shitty upbringing, and bad female friendship or wasn't socialized as children) are more likely …
/r/ExRedPill28/08/20 07:08 AM
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This is a podcast I follow that is run by an ex-scientologists, he regularly have guest who are ex-cult members and also professionals who study cult ideologies. Its one of the best podcast because he can take the concept and the idea and give real life examples in scientology or Mormonism or other cults. This is a really good ep, I highly recommend people look into and really understand how cult brainwashing works. https://sensiblyspeaking.com/2019/11/09/sensibly-speaking-podcast-218-how-to-tel…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/20 04:21 AM
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I;ve always believe RedPill to be closer to cult ideology than anything else. Usually, people who are Red Pill are also in the Alt-Right, its no coincidence there. I think what Red Pill does (along with Alt-right and other cults) uses syncronism. Its basically a form of pattern picking in coincidences and claiming that it must be "Red Pill Truth" Also Red Pills and Alt-rights seem to affect the same type of people in terms of their thinking and maybe even certain personalities are more vulnerabl…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/20 09:30 AM
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Do you know Brene Brown? She is someone I highly recommend. Its only a 3 minute clip, but hopefully it will give you another perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s6DQrqVHxM
/r/ExRedPill25/08/20 02:12 PM
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If Henry Cavil (Superman) can be talking about games all day and openly admit to WoWing in interviews, and breaking the internet with a video of him building a computer. What are you scared of? That guy is putting his FAME and CAREER on the line for public discussion. And his hobby landed him the lead role in The Witcher. Also there are girls who games and likes anime too. You just need to find someone who accepts that.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/20 04:32 AM
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sounds like you need to vet more the type of women you hang out with. and try to break out your social circles more. if you keep going for women who does that sort of behaviour, the lesser your self esteem is, inregards to your hobbies. try making it one of your deal breakers; "any women who openly mocks my hobby" and see how far that takes you.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/20 04:30 AM
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go out and help other men who are stuck. I feel like younger men have no role models anymore and all end up on 4chan; and not only does TRP get to them, but also other cults on 4chan. it is extremely tiring and almost impossible for women to deracialise them. and IRL; it is extremely dangerous for the women to be approached by TRP men. I always feel like I might accidentally trigger a guy, and I end up doxxed or worse.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/20 09:02 AM
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does porn allow men to view themselves as more likely to get with hotter women too?
/r/ExRedPill24/08/20 08:58 AM
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No offence, but anyone subscribing to TRP doesn't seem emotionally mature to me. There are some assumption in the post: Maturity =/= age. Maturity is its purely to do with life experiences and how do you deal with life experience/adversities and your mindset. Having kids doesn't mean they are mature. Having a job doesn't mean they are mature. Those women are probably immature themselves and only have recently started to "mature" or gain some sort of self-awareness but still they find themselves …
/r/ExRedPill23/08/20 01:31 AM
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Some get warped views on what women actually look like; the ones they see online/social media may alter what they want to pursue. I see a rise in men pursuing the same women because she looks like 8-10 but the rest of the ladies become invisible. I wonder if there is also a general trend towards women-hating pretty girls more due to this trend.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/20 01:18 AM
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Sounds like one of the unhealthy attachment. A fearful avoidant? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_theory
/r/ExRedPill22/08/20 08:00 AM
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Can you give us a TL;DR on the main points? I understand the traditional psychology view of co-dependency; is it the same?
/r/ExRedPill22/08/20 05:19 AM
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As a women, not trying to be dramatic but I’d be scared of a man like that. I’ve had men abuse me, sexually harass me etc I think this is something RedPilled men don't think about, is that RedPill behaviour is exactly someone that would be considered violent, or potentially violent. Any women valuing her own life will avoid men with such behaviours; even if they know nothing about Redpill.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/20 02:24 AM
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They specifically grab from programs that's used to assist those raised with Cluster B family members and co-dependency recovery programs, and others. Woah. that explains alot. I find the entire PUA/RedPill technique is reverse engineering and emulating a dysfunctional relationship with unhealthy attachment styles. It makes sense that CPTSD and cluster B (specifically Borderline Personality and Histrionic Personality) patients would be "attracted" to those guys.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/20 02:35 AM
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Going underground makes it very very scary.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/20 08:17 AM
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I see. Redpill community have been getting alot of bad press for the last 2 years. Might have contributed. yeah could be the groups I'm in.
/r/ExRedPill17/08/20 08:13 AM
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LOL! The love life of the emotionally unavailable.
/r/ExRedPill19/07/20 01:00 AM
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PUAs: How to catch a fish. Step 1, buy lots of our books and lectures...
/r/ExRedPill19/07/20 12:59 AM
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As someone who was once in a relationship with a RPer; I hope ex-RPers would go out and actually help the young men in TRP movements. Get them out. Stop letting future generations hurt more girls. Stop the cycle. Those men are more likely to listen to ex-TRP than anyone else. People who've been burnt by TRP have their own recovery journey to take, but once we know, we do become more guarded. Because I can't just assume anyone I meet is healthy/emotionally stable. It has become TRP until proven o…
/r/ExRedPill13/07/20 03:53 AM
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Thank you for the analogy.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/20 03:33 AM
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Do you think they are addicted to the power behind sex? Its the same idea that Rape is about power, not the sex.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 08:38 AM
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I can see how if someone focuses on power and control would be interested in TRP. But the person must feel so powerless. It means TRP isn't really about the women at all.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 07:51 AM
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I'd imagine books and ideas like Man's Searching for Meaning by Victor Frankl would be a better teacher for hope? Whereas the "hope" TRP doesn't really make sense because it points to Hate as a base ideology (which is basically the opposite of hope)
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 07:49 AM
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What do you mean? I think its as easy as falling into any cult groups online. But I don't understand why it is hard for them to get out the same way; and it creates a stronger emotional reaction to it.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 06:32 AM
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I think it will cause opposite effect. The more shame someone feels, the more likely they are to shame others. And pass on the Shame trauma.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 06:30 AM
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I have to disagree with that. You have to disagree with the opinion/the situation etc but not shame them; there are many ways you can disagree with someone. Shame might "change" the behaviour in the short term, but does more damage in the long run. Shame never really goes away, once the damage is done. The person may be shamed into not saying anything, but doesn't mean shame will change how they feel about it. Brene Brown goes into details of the whys and what will happen.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 06:01 AM
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That TRP works. For those who are involuntary celibates, the TRP method can absolutely get you the sex you want or feel like you need, and that it can make the entire ideology seem "right". I'd argue TRP doesn't work. Its a just a branding of manipulation...and its manipulation that works on really naiive or attract mentality disturbed girls (who already have a host of issues). So if TRP community read any books; The Prince, or 48 Rules of Power, or even How to win friends and influence people, …
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 04:05 AM
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I agree with your abusive female behaviour are not as publicly spoken about as male abusive behaviour. There should be more awareness around this issue. Alot of women are actually victims of other women's toxic behaviour too. (but people will call it just a "cat fight", rather than seeing it for what it is.) However the concept of shame; and using shame to make someone else feel bad is not a healthy behaviour. Shame should not be used as a weapon. It is one of the most toxic form of control. It …
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 03:57 AM
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I suspect alot of men who are attracted to Red Pill from trying to understand women, are infact having trouble communicating to women due to their own internal anxieties. In that case I suggest lots of therapy and counseling. If men are attracted to Red Pill because it dehumanizes someone to help with self-esteem then try intense therapy for years. If men are attracted to Red Pill due to wanting to understand women's thought processes: then talking to women will help. If men are attracted to Red…
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 03:47 AM
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I think all the attachment styles can have people with Red Pill ideology, but the fearful avoidant type that are the most worrying. The style itself resembles somewhat of BPD, and that "I hate you! Don't Leave me!" Which is evident is alot of what Red Pillers do: I Hate Women! I want to have sex with them!
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 02:34 AM
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Agree 100% Red Pill basically hurts the guys much more than any benefits it can give them in the short term. Its a form of self-destruction.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/20 02:26 AM
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I wonder if there is a group selection bias; when you claim that Red Pill works, and that Hypergamy is a real thing. what sort of social circle do you have to be in for it to happen 100% of the time?
/r/ExRedPill06/07/20 12:22 AM
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Yes, debating blackpillers and hardcore redpillers is annoying. Because we can't change them, only they can themselves. Also they are not looking for change when they come here, they are looking to spread their ideology. This place should be for people who are looking to leave redpill and have a safe space to vent their REAL frustration instead of all blaming on women.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/20 12:17 AM
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I think Red Pill and Alt-right is the result of severe trauma which produces very toxic personalities, and hence they are stuck in that environment because the healthy people rejects them, and unhealthy people keeps them in the toxic environment. which eventually becomes a permanent and internalized worldviews. Trauma usually indicates something went wrong during childhood, and they are somewhat developmentally stunted. I follow Gabor Mate's work, and I agree with alot of what he says.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/20 06:07 AM
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usually the male head of the house hold. If they have no father, its usually the brother that makes the decision. Makes me wonder if hypergamy is a male fantasy
/r/ExRedPill30/06/20 04:26 AM
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I've always wondered why "women who wants to have equal rights" would it be such an issue; i think the not having to take responsibility for their failed relationship" is a really good answer. essentially its boy thinking and entitlement. I mean, wouldn't they want their mother, sisters, daughters to have RIGHTS?
/r/ExRedPill30/06/20 04:19 AM
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They are the Gretchens of the RedPill world (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZMLm5dsk7U) They come with a whole host of identity, self-esteem and self-love issues. This scene from Mean Girls really illustrates what Gretchens get out of having a relationship with Regina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K4L9K8oUZ8 Gretchens have internalized the lack of self-will and self determination that they need to follow a "leader" who demonstrates "power". But like the short scene, Gretchens don't actually…
/r/ExRedPill30/06/20 04:05 AM
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They treat "relationships" like business deals and zero-sum game. So in reality, they don't actually have relationships because that will require emotions, commitment, and empathy. You have to be so mentally unwell to see relationships through that kind of worldview.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/20 03:30 AM
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Interesting, I know two men who have done this to me but I definitely don't think they were "redpilled" compared to other strategies these people seem to use (dread or were bothered when I talked about past experiences). It doesn't have to be Red Pilled. There was abuse and method of abuse before Red Pill. The technique is specially called Hoovering. They dump you then try to draw you back through various methods. Its all based on entitlement and rejecting your choice of not wanting to continue …
/r/ExRedPill07/06/20 03:35 AM
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a big one is victim mentality Basically anything from the Cluster B from the DSM.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/20 03:31 AM
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What Shallon preaches does to young women is basically what Red Pillers do to young men. Both use the victim narrative that their gender has been unfairly treated and that power and manipulation is the only way to get them what they want. (we all know this isn't true) if you dig deeper, its basically a form of cult and MLM style business. Shallon with her private WhatsApp groups and merchandise, and Red Piller with their books and live seminars. Shallon openly admits she has been diagnosed with …
/r/ExRedPill04/06/20 01:16 AM
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I think his video is directly targeting Red pillers, so he uses alot of Red Pill terms. If you use psychology terms; Red Pillers are not going to understand it at all. Remember, they are still in their own world view.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/20 05:39 AM
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I haven't watched enough of his content to get a full picture, but his like one of few youtubers who is addressing Red Pill directly and head on, using Red Pill terminology; while addressing it through psychology. I'm interesting in seeing where he will take it towards.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/20 05:38 AM
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there is a difference between "always" and "almost always"
/r/ExRedPill29/05/20 05:35 AM
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yeah, I'm reading his book right now about Shame. I think Brene Brown's works are the best (in terms of bite size digestibility)
/r/ExRedPill29/05/20 05:33 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4P7r9syq6M
/r/ExRedPill28/05/20 01:56 PM
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I dont understand why red pillers come to exredpill subs and threaten people? if you so confident in your way and masculinity then why are you complaining so loud?
/r/ExRedPill28/05/20 01:30 PM
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acting distant to attract women is still pursuing women.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/20 08:17 AM
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cross post to r/cults?
/r/ExRedPill24/05/20 01:41 AM
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anything by Brene Brown
/r/ExRedPill18/05/20 03:19 PM
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Thats nicely put. I find that disorganized and anxious attachment styles are most likely the girls to be attracted to Red Pillers. Those girls usually have alot of insecurities that they haven't addressed. (makes sense that some guys claim that Red Pill works; when in reality, its only working on insecurely attached girls) I think all relationships are dysfunctional unless they are securely attached. Regardless if they are using Red Pill strategies or not.
/r/ExRedPill12/05/20 01:39 AM
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Well said. It is basically a death-hate cult.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/20 12:02 AM
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I take this as you have not spoke to girls who have done the chasing and getting rejected. The last guy I was interested in, rejected me before I could even ask LOL...it was a 1 day of "oh bummer..." then after that I was like... "oh his loss anyway" LOL I dunno...maybe you just haven't met the right girl to ask for this survey/theory of yours? Also, my first ex; I asked him out too.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/20 10:24 AM
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I've never thought what pre-dates PUA and Redpill was the Witch Hunt.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/20 03:56 AM
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well good for him. His more exposed than ever.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/20 02:43 AM
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Thanks for the info. I will look into Eric Hoffer. This stuff is probably the key to the understanding of all those cults popping up...
/r/ExRedPill01/05/20 01:37 AM
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??? what the...
/r/ExRedPill01/05/20 01:28 AM
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Unfortunatly, that seems to be the path for a lot of people in hate-ideologies...hitting rock bottom
/r/ExRedPill30/04/20 11:45 AM
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So is he still a PUA/RedPiller but with a "Christian" flavor now?
/r/ExRedPill30/04/20 11:43 AM
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Yes the odd are against us already in dating. And the whole TRP and PUA just doesn't help. But I can see why autistic men are especially prone to fall for it They have no idea if TRP/PUA is true or not; most don't have that kind of life experience They have no idea what a healthy relationship feels like or looks like Its hard to get into the mindset of women for men (its a perspective issue too)
/r/ExRedPill25/04/20 02:16 AM
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I'm also on the spectrum, and I am female. I could see the issue with TRP and PUA stuff when it first became popular. Using the pattern recognition skill (a gift really), it was obvious where it will end up from my perspective because the whole thing was extremely abusive and degrading to women. I do feel the autistic men are one of the victims because if you use TRP and PUA you will NEVER achieve the level of intimacy and relationship (that I know alot of autistic people want), and in the end, …
/r/ExRedPill25/04/20 01:49 AM
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at the moment, they seem very balanced and level headed.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/20 12:57 AM
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Table of content for those who want to learn a specific topic. Video Minutes - Video topic 6:30 Why are we interested in Rollo Tomassi’s book The Rational Male? 10:50 What is White Knight Syndrome? 15:07 What is Compensatory Narcissism? 21:26 What is the type of man who consistently sacrifices for women? 24:15 What you won't hear from Red Pill guys 31:27 What sacrifice and compromise imply about your relationship 36:27 Do women have an inborn and irresistible impulse to switch off their emotions…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/20 04:17 AM
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Your welcome :)
/r/ExRedPill20/04/20 04:15 AM
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Thank you for that. I was gonna ask for recommendations, and it appears he has a couple of TRP related vids up.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/20 04:15 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/g46h57/our_uncensored_opinion_of_red_pill_with_steve/
/r/ExRedPill19/04/20 11:56 AM
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Just found this online. Highly recommend everyone to watch this. It goes through the mindset in details. David Tian is a psychologist and someone who have gone through the RedPill journey himself.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/20 11:55 AM
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https://youtu.be/qIzzNh84ANw
/r/ExRedPill19/04/20 11:50 AM
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Theres resentment in the TRP community because they are using manipulation to get love and belonging which will never work. Yet they go back to TRP for more. Your post reeks of moral-superiority and entitlement against women. You are very much redpilled.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 01:28 PM
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Thats the thing, without healthy relationships to counter those TRP solutions , men won't get that alternative perspective. Hence drives them into the cult even further. And the deeper they go, the harder it is to wanting to hear female friends perspectives.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 01:23 PM
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I wonder if there is a sub like this one but for the ex-radicalised people? I've been reading Christian Picciolini's books; and he talks about the process and mindset of a radicalized person. And it fits perfectly with this video.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 12:37 PM
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What about the 50 yo check out lady at the store? Maybe they really like to play video games? Why can't there be a friendship with them? Also why do guys see women as "potential" sex objects before humans with emotions and souls?
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 12:32 PM
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Counter-narratives as in when you do befriend the opposite gender, you are more likely to expose yourself to counter-narratives. It's like you will never understand a dog's behaviour until you actually hang out with a dog. Friendship also serves the purpose of mentoring too. If you have issues with a girl, wouldn't it easier to ask your trusted female friends than go to TRP and end up with some really unhealthy solutions?
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 12:28 PM
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I think the step before that is the original family dynamics and family teaching which men models after. After that I think your right, it becomes the Chicken or the Egg question. Yes; i don't understand why men see so women as below them for friendship? Women are humans too. I think for any women's safety and sanity; not befriending men who disrespect them is the right thing to do. Friendship can turn emotionally abusive too.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 12:26 PM
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What about guys that have had/do have female friends, and still think RP ideas are generally accurate? I've had guy "friends" like that. Usually the friendship don't last, very very surface like. It doesn't develop. Also, what are the benefits of a guy being friends with a woman vs. being friends with another guy? I think a lot of guys just don't see a reason to, even non-RP guys well... thats why we have the TRP issue.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 08:12 AM
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Sounds like an extreme form of compartmentalising
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 08:09 AM
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This is scary, Red Pill Ideas are going international. Can I ask what is your original culture? There might be difference between TRP here (with English language users) vs TRP (with a different language) due to the underlying culture it is trying to establish itself within. For example, "peacocking" is very popular seduction move in TRP but it only really works in culture that support individualism. Whereas I think this move is much harder to pull off in culture that values collectiveness.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/20 02:32 AM
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no problem. the whole boom of one cult is related to the boom of another.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/20 09:57 AM
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For women, I do think its not that great as what the mainstream tourists says. For foreign guys in the first couple of years; sure its wonderful because everyone is so "polite" and no one ever says no to your face. For an asian guy; the same expectation of politeness applies to males too. For anyone who have lived in Japan for a while; the politeness eventually becomes creepiness because nothing is ever that "nice" without a cost.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/20 08:19 AM
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I think those with solid boundaries are eventually able to realise the relationship is going into a deadly path prior to it turning into a full blown violence; which means the TRP might work on the first few dates, but eventually it'll become really obvious. I do think naiive women (those who have never been in an abusive relationship/friendship or very young or those conditioned to see abusive relationships as normal) are more likely to stay in abusive relationship even with red flags. unfortun…
/r/ExRedPill09/04/20 08:14 AM
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thats the thing, I don't see it ever working on women with real healthy solid self-esteem, but definitely works on women with low self-esteem. I think when TRP say it "works" it probably worked on low self-esteem women but are relatively attractive. those relationships eventually fall apart due to an build up of insecurity on both sides.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/20 12:00 PM
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This is what I thought, the fact that they are always after the best looking and the youngest women is a form of hypergamy. I see this as a form of mental projection for something they want deep down but feel shameful for it. Much like someone who cheats will claim and blame their partner for cheating.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/20 11:56 AM
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+1
/r/ExRedPill08/04/20 11:55 AM
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Stick around the sub a bit more. maybe one day when your ready, your come around.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/20 11:55 AM
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I am, but adding a larger view point to what your saying.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/20 05:04 AM
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multiple recurring events with multiple women. I've never heard of a man that has one bad experience who then goes on to start to see women as disposable trash to use then discard. I've had more than one bad experience, This is why therapy is very important. People are attracted/feel comfortable around people with similar levels of emotional maturity and awareness. If you are brought up in a family that doesn't teach you healthy aspect of love, you are basically programmed to chase love after em…
/r/ExRedPill06/04/20 12:51 PM
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The negative and fearful mindset is basically plaguing men and women at this point. Men accidentally get in relationship with toxic women (who were abandoned by their redpilled ex), then the men become redpilled and goes on to have a relationship with an honest women who then gets a dose of redpill.... then the cycle continues. Thats why things like Red Pill is extremely dangerous. Men who are attracted to these type of ideology don't have a healthy relationship to model from and a good male rol…
/r/ExRedPill06/04/20 11:14 AM
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It teaches the user to take on narcissistic personality disorder. If you look at the internet trend, when PUA/redpill came out and exploded on the internet; women's support and help groups especially related to narcissistic personality disorder also exploded.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/20 12:25 AM
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I think we need to think outside of the male vs. female paradigm because I deeply believe that man and women have aspects of both female and male elements (or personality traits). I think it is the societal narrative: all women must be X, and all men must be Y; and that those narratives were created in the first place to put women and men into a battle against each other. When men stop buying into their narrative, and before start calling them "mgtow" (which is really a patriarchal way of view m…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/20 05:39 AM
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There is definitely material profiteering happening here to. Anyone and any material who charges for any type of "enlightenment" or "self advancement" is basically self-serving; because the very definition of helping is to help without an agenda. I'm starting to see parallel between TRP, mental health issues (like you said, feeling of anxiety etc), personality disorders, childhood trauma, serious sadistic crimes like child sex abuse cults and neoliberalism; if they are not just manifestations of…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/20 05:34 AM
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LOL don't know if they allow crossposts
/r/ExRedPill31/03/20 05:29 AM
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That is the very definition of Sadism.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/20 02:48 AM
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I've always thought the emotionally mature ones were alpha, and the chest pumping, fast cars driving, women chasing ones were betas. Somehow RP turned it upside down.
/r/ExRedPill03/01/20 06:12 AM
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Its a projection.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/20 11:44 PM
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Women who wanted to date but wanted normal healthy relationships are going to avoid online dating, because it is the hunting/training ground for emotionally abusive men, stay on the app for 1 day as a female and you'll know what I mean. The rest are probably clueless first-timer, or something going on with them, or isn't really looking for relationships at all. So yes, it is a self-selection process.
/r/ExRedPill01/01/20 11:38 PM
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Mental gymnastic When it works, its pua technique When it doesnt, its the womens problem. So in their mind its 100% working
/r/ExRedPill01/01/20 10:35 AM
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I'm like 3 minutes into this women 30+ rant vid, and I think his got an extreme inferiority complex. He only feels superior to women over 30 because that's what "society" talks about and its more to do with reproduction system. He doesn't mention anything about women who choose to be childless or wanting to only settle with a good person, or wanting to focus on career? Who are probably way financially stable than him. He only targets women who apparently only wants to settle down in their 30s. I…
/r/ExRedPill01/01/20 02:00 AM
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What about fear of disease? Both from men and women?
/r/ExRedPill26/12/19 03:49 AM
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Excellent post. I was wondering if the complex also can occur in females but reversed. So rather the female internalize the madonna-whore complex, she projects that onto the male? Where males in high sex partner counts "whores" are lesser than the men who have lower sex partner counts "madonnas".
/r/ExRedPill26/12/19 03:16 AM
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But definitely you want to be a taker?
/r/ExRedPill09/12/19 01:26 AM
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men unable to go through life without seeking validation Exactly. Nice Guys, Red Pills, PUAs, Fuck-boys, abusers are really the same thing, just in different costumes. The root cause of them are the same. They are external validation seekers; for unsolved internal pain, and a lack of self-love in order to have a healthy form of self-worth.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/19 03:13 AM
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I'm sorry that you went through this. And I am glad you are out of that relationship. And thank you for sharing this story with us. I just wanted to add: I find one of the earliest signs of being in a toxic relationship is the feeling of disconnect and loneliness. Even when you are sitting/standing/sleeping next to him; you feel completely and utterly alone. I believe this is due to the fact the key missing in those relationships, is lack of emotional connection. Not "Hollywood movies style of p…
/r/ExRedPill28/11/19 03:06 AM
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In the red pill they say that women would do whatever for a man they find attractive enough. For a “true alpha”. Therefore if she isn’t sleeping with you on the first or second date she doesn’t see you as an alpha male and you’re wasting your time. This is where TRP is wrong. Women with mental health issues and severe low self esteem do that. Healthy women set boundaries. Usually only do what they are comfortable with.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/19 09:12 AM
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The "no strings attached casual sex" ideology is as bad as red pill itself. It is a cult too. People who actually like casual sex should be with people who share the same values. And those who don't should be with those who also share those same values. Only when you have same values, would you have respect for each other in a relationship.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/19 01:41 AM
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Tbh i think number count is also important to some girls too. Because the number count reflect so much in attitude and value towards sex.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/19 01:24 PM
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I'd assume cluster Bs already practice red pill without them realizing. And I wouldn't be surprised that the leaders of TRP are on the cluster.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/19 06:07 AM
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What is scary that today's society creates scenarios where young men fall easily into the trap of TRP. Do you think the high school environment makes creates mentality that accepts red pill?
/r/ExRedPill07/10/19 06:05 AM
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I wonder why is that redpill ideas is more attractive to this specific group usually naive, insecure, or at a hopeless point in their life. What is it about the red pill is more acceptable when your there.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/19 07:25 AM
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Completely ruins any form of trust between men and women. It teaches men to dehumanize women; and as a result, women are now weary of men.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/19 08:57 AM
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Learn basic communication skills and be well rounded. Go take on hobbies of some sort.
/r/ExRedPill28/09/19 11:36 PM
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I dont have problems with red pill attract women who likes short terms. Its when red pills use manipulative strategies on women who are interested in long terms.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/19 05:29 AM
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But i thought red pillers only want 10 out of 10? How many 10s are even in this catergory?
/r/ExRedPill23/09/19 05:27 AM
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I see where your going, i think true masculinity and femininity is importang for a society to continue to function at all. I think masculinity is the archetypical father. He stands for integrity, speaking his truth, sticking to his values, standing up for the unfortunate, mentoring. And femininity is the archetypical mother. She is empathetic, nurturing, compassionate, actively listens and gives sage advise. I think society has got to a point where integrity and empathy are both traits that peop…
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 04:40 PM
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contrast them with men who rejected those old beliefs and grew up with/adopted gender equality as a new belief system Yes this. Why do some men move forward and some dont?
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 04:29 PM
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I dont see how thats related to red pill. Red pill is about getting women to have sex or explain why they are not. But theres nothing in their philosophy about blocking other men from getting sex. There was never kill all chads kind of ideology. If anything, the violence are directed towards women.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 01:33 PM
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I think it can manifest differently but entitlement and victimhood feed into each other like a cycle I cant get sex (victimhood), but society and patriarchy said i should be (entitlement) While not seeing sex is related to ability to emotionally connect to women. Entitlement - pua red pill, Victimhood - incel, Hopelessness - mgtow
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 01:27 PM
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I see, its seen things in zero sum, and the fear of lack, even fear of missing out. Im not sure of red pill zero sum is a justifiable fear. Women are not dying in masses.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 01:03 PM
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Feminism basically told patriarchy to shove it. I guess red pill is the responce to that. But what is interesting was how red pill (more external control) was the responce rather than self emotional examination.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 12:49 PM
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Can you explain what do you mean by resources? Racism and sexism are both related narcissistic responce. And narcissim is related to childhood developmental trauma...
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 12:46 PM
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patriarchy is to blame- these men think they are entitled to women’s affections, bodies, and lives. Just throwing some ideas out there: what if even the patriarchy belief system is a symptom of emotional trauma. Where Alexithymia caused the shut down of all emotions in the person; because of hypervigilance, and fear of emotional connection. (this was all during early childhood so they wouldn't know why the pain exist). And the only way to "connect" with someone is through sex. So the patriarchy …
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 12:27 PM
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it works. Like the games work, but do they attract the right kind of women/people? Like are the people you're attracting by playing these games mentally healthy? Or is the un-availability of it something they're used to? Exactly. The reason why it "works" is basically just finding women who have the same developmental/childhood/emotional attachment issue as you (at the level of Red Pill mentality). Which from the outside looks like self-torture to emotional abuse. Its not actually being in a tru…
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 11:44 AM
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jealousy is related to insecurity. You need to find the root cause of why you feel insecure, that is specific to you. e.g. ask questions like: What happened in your childhood that made you feel less than whole?
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 03:59 AM
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Also the whole " don't respond straigh away, be unavailable. The whole self improvement, get hobbies thing makes sense bit then its like don't drop them stuff u do to make time for her, and it gets girls attracted to u." is meant to mimic boundaries. Building REAL emotional and healthy boundaries is the aim, NOT A FAKE VERSION CALLED REDPILL.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/19 03:56 AM
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It's like, we go to Mars. Then you start think that we are manipulating women on Earth. Are you really that stupid? We are on the rocket to Mars, we don't give a damn about Earth Women. Lastly, you have no idea what narcissism is. ok tell me what narcissism is then.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/19 01:59 AM
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So the solution is to become a psychopath and manipulate all women? And spread psychopathy ideology? If all the women in your life does not recognize your interior then you are the common denominator for picking these women to hang around in the first place. How about take some responsibility for the choices and consequences in your life. (Another sign of narcissim)
/r/ExRedPill17/09/19 11:27 PM
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Red Pill ideology asks regular people to start being unempathetic towards others; where the "other" is both the opposite sex, and other men, as well, since they're always supposed to be trying to 'one-up' the other guys in the sex department. This is creepy. It is basically saying; is psychopathy and sadism trainable? ​ The ones who hit their mid-to-late twenties, and still think they're owed sex simply because they exist, are the ones you need to feel sorry for/concerned about. Thats the thing,…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/19 02:20 AM
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Deep hatred of women. Using violence or fantasy of violence against women. Need for control in the relationship, or fantasy of relationship. Citing no responsibility against harm done to the women. etc etc The difference is that Red Pill happens in the minds, whereas the SKs would actually act it out. That is until Red Pill becomes so extreme/delusional they actually become violent, aka Elliot Rodger.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/19 02:15 AM
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I haven't read the book yet, but definitely will be reading it. In the show, they touched on the early childhood and also relationship with their mother as one of the key elements. Do you think it is important element in making a narcissist.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/19 09:29 AM
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well said. Everytime anyone bring up the concept of "internal world", it is usually ignored by the narcissist. This is because they don't have one themselves (extreme self-hatred therefore distancing themselves from ever examine their inner world). And projecting that onto other people. Most narcissist see other people (both male and female) as NPCs. Therefore it only makes sense to them that hypergamy can be the "ONLY logical explanation" on how females select mates. (notice the over emphasis o…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/19 04:18 AM
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This video may be of interest to you. It is exactly what you are talking about, including the analysis of the entire Red Pill cult. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIzzNh84ANw specifically: 41:13 Why “sexual market value” (SMV) is a flawed concept
/r/ExRedPill16/09/19 04:13 AM
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so its mutal? there is as much of hypergamy in women as there are in men.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/19 09:42 AM
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There is a connection between misogynistic views, racism and narcissism. So I don't think your theory is out stretched. There is definitely one thing about red pill/incel groups that stood out for me over and over again; is the completely absence of acknowledgement of the internal world of women such as life events, emotions, ethics, values and morals. (this is a typical narcissistic trait too) They talk about women going for Chads and biologically programmed with hypergamy, and that being the o…
/r/ExRedPill15/09/19 04:49 AM
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As much as comics are for boys tho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 09:43 AM
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Men are quite predisposed to avoid telling women "No", which became their wish engine This is interesting, and in 2 parts. From the way its worded, it sounded like men were giving women things. I dont think feminist women are actually asking for mens permission. There seems to be an underlying assumption that in order for men to give, he must also control? Second is, if he does control it then why cant he say no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 09:42 AM
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Do you think there is an underlying resentment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 09:09 AM
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The original fairy tales are pretty grim. Disney is super rose tinted glass version, it does promote unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 09:07 AM
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Its interesting that the counter movement did not transcends the feminist POV. And your right about it being a counter movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 09:05 AM
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Yeah thats what im talking about too. Say the women could not marry someone from a lower class, and the guy from the lower class is ok with that because her daddy said no. Why would that not happen today. What if her society and social circle is still operating from that paradigm? And this could be rejecting a man of higher value or a man of lower value, wherever her social circle is operating from. I think manosphere is putting all the responsibility and blame onto the women rather than looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 09:00 AM
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I do think hypergamy is born out the political need to have major families aline with each other. Men of those time are as involved in hypergamy as women. Girls could only wed who their father agrees to. If anything women who are in love with men from the lower class are usually forced to marry from the upper class by the father or brother. So isnt this a class issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 08:41 AM
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It sounds like manosphere is raised from men trying to find new identity within the new modern dating frame? Blue pills are looking at things from more emotive perspective for sure. Do you think its an evolution process? Is this a paradigm shift?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 08:20 AM
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Do you think that anti shame is pushing away the feelings of shame rather than integrating and accepting shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 08:14 AM
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Yes but what are you all fighting for? Where is your common ground? What happened in society that brought you to think ans accept this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 08:13 AM
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This is an interesting perspective. It kind of almost explain the rise of asian fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 08:11 AM
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Are you staying its a gen y thing due to upbringing? Or are people more idealisitic? Fairy tales and stories existed for a long time. But Disney is definately a 21 century thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 07:00 AM
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Internet is a vehicle for sure: but cant be just the internet. There has to more because ideas dont just pop out of no where. I mean we had books and printing for a long time and ended up with religion and not Manosphere. But why is this happening right now? Why is manosphere blooming right now? Why are young men and young women accepting redpills ideas right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 06:59 AM
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Are they aiming for who is the most immoral person?
/r/ExRedPill03/09/19 05:29 AM
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This is what manosphere doesnt tell you. Its basically looking at relationship through the lense of "business and corporate entities", which basically dehumanizes people and is the exact opposite of what relationship is. A relationship is a connection and a connection is vunerability. Relationships are not business transactions. It cannot be explained by manosphere philosophy. This diease of the mind have infected both men and women, hence you have the play out of this toxic dynamic. Look at how…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/19 04:50 AM
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Then he obviously does not have the social skills and the self awareness to handle that relationship. He may not be that mature.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/19 04:44 AM
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Glad it made your day. And your welcome.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/19 07:15 AM
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I'm not trolling. I literally don't understand red pill logic. It's basically shooting themselves in the foot logic. And exactly what you've said.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/19 07:14 AM
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Yeah it called infatuation and secret crushes. But everyone goes through that, girls too.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/19 05:54 AM
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What about love they felt from parents and grandparents? They can't feel that?
/r/ExRedPill04/08/19 05:53 AM
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So which means red pillers have never loved anyone before? Or that they have and got really burned. Which means if they have felt love then it can't be a marketing buzz word. Or they have and are creating false narrative to cope? Essentially denialing oneities is a defense mechanism?
/r/ExRedPill04/08/19 05:51 AM
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Lol I don't. I understand the pain of losing someone you think is the one. But I'm never be going to go against falling in love with someone. Because falling in love is what humans do.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/19 01:15 AM
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It sounds like oneities is infatuation rather than real romantic love. So oneities is essentially the person on the pedestal, rather than liking the person for who they are?
/r/ExRedPill04/08/19 12:32 AM
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I think the good looking people from both sides are jaded from the dating scene. Some just accepts that people are out to bang and some just completely opted out. When the PUA scene started over a decade ago, I'm pretty sure pro commitment women of all ages and types are manipulated into sex. Often when they guys get what they want, they usually find a very tiny aspect of me and start dissing me. I personally have experienced this many times. I'm not a 10 out of 10 as well. I believe im the prac…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:25 AM
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I'm going to attempt and try to answer this: My question is if the red pill doesn’t work as is claimed on this reddit, what should young men do to attract American women? Red Pill NEVER works. It has fake effect on women whose self esteem is so low (often with a PD themselves) that any attention (including negative attention) would make them feel "love". The irony of this is that, no healthy relationship can be formed from this. Alot of men who are emotionally dead inside or suffer from a PD the…
/r/ExRedPill19/07/19 09:24 AM
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Your right. I'll get back to that. Good luck :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:00 AM
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Lol sorry but your posts shows why you posted this. You haven't seen a love relationship. But hey that's cool, it's a learning progress, and we've all been there. There is a difference between relationship of true love and relationship for the emotionally unavailable. The CADs you are talking about are usually men who display emotional distance and invulnerablity. Those can't feel safe enough to be emotionally seen and in another word they can't be vunerable. This a well documented and known as …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 04:09 AM
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Shaming is used because it's effective when women use it against each other. Shaming also require caring about what society or her social circle thinks. It is probably the most damaging form of control. And women who lack self awareness usually respond to it and also been used on. Their social circle, friends, mothers probably used it at one stage to control her. It won't work on a fuck boy because you can't shame someone who is well aware of his behaviour or that his social group actually award…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 02:57 AM
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It sounds like a pyramid scheme. It's really sad imo. Those guys probably needed help with emotional support but ended up with this kind of stuff
/r/ExRedPill08/07/19 11:42 AM
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It's interesting that you've brought up economic as incentives to keep young men in the loop. It honestly operate like a cult at this point. I think the men who are attracted to this and can't get out are those who cannot believe that other men would take advantage of them, because women was suppose to be the enemy?
/r/ExRedPill08/07/19 02:00 AM
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I've read marks book, subtle art of not giving a fuck. I think it does cater to certain world views. But I haven't read models. I didn't know Mark is purple pill.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/19 01:02 AM
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I feel like this make alot of sense. And I felt that people who are drawn to this community have trauma or cptsd due to childhood abuse. I guess the articles just confirms it. Tho usually the signs of intense projection, hate and dehumanization (like in red pill coms) is along the lines of borderline personality and sadism. A pure narcissits just don't care?
/r/ExRedPill07/07/19 05:03 AM
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Yes I remember PUA tactics were mostly about manipulation but nothing of the sort that focuses on dehumanizing women as an ideology. Neil strauss was so ashamed of the game that he went into counselling and wrote a follow up book called The Truth which goes into the detail about the damages of PUA communities. I'm really surprised that most red pill communities don't talk about Neil Strauss anymore, considered his book was one of the foundation for the community. Thank you. This explains alot, a…
/r/ExRedPill07/07/19 03:21 AM
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I think some people pick red pill because it's easier than face certain truth. Like for example their childhood and maybe even their mother was abusive. Usually this causes so much mental anguish that unless you are emotionally ready and with professional help, you won't be able to handle it at all, let alone process and come out of it. Hence the development of cptsd or pd and Red Pill essentially externalize, projects and blames women for all problems. Which is a form of coping mechanisms that …
/r/ExRedPill06/07/19 08:19 AM
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Your perspective doesn't include love, compassion, positive regard for others and space for natural personal growth etc. Your perspective is based on cause-effect and strategies to achieve personal optimum. (This is actually normal thinking style from extreme individualistic cultures and you may be projecting those cultural norms) Have you ever thought about what your seeing and observing may be specific to one cultural behaviour (the one that you've been conditioned under) rather than an explai…
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 10:15 PM
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Can you explain what about the red pill ideology was true to you?
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 04:12 AM
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To me the big issue with red pill is that it teaches men to develop cluster B personality traits (dark triad traits) to win validation from women with borderline personality disorder, traumatic backgrounds and self esteem problems. THIS. This is so well put. Red Pill strategies are basically copies of psychopathic and Machiavellian methods. And usually it's other damaged women with personality disorders will be attracted to this due to familiarity. If red pill works then it makes you think about…
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 03:02 AM
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I honestly believe the red pill movement distracted men from healthy emotional development. And actually learning from real life experience. The girl rejected you? All women are evil. Instead of just that girl rejected you. It produced alot of black and white thinking in people. I was first introduced to the book, The Game when I was 18. And I remember all a sudden everyone around me was peacocking. It destroyed my ability to relate and trust guys too.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 02:50 AM
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I don't think it's red pill that saved you, I think it's you discover boundaries and implementing them. Once you know what red flags to look out for in unhealthy people, you will be able to set boundaries much easier and get out of toxic relationships faster. And this is for men and women.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/19 02:44 AM
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