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Your word = actual evidence Experience of others = false.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:38 PM
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Pretty people: Have a better life than average and ugly people in pretty much all aspects. Halo effect and pretty privilege statistically manifest constantly in the life of attractive people. Women of PPD: Its so hard to be beautiful!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:19 PM
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Typical case of "Women are wonderful" above. What happens when women try to run male profiles in OLD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37vfwncvRgA
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:10 PM
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At a grocery store while she’s making googly eyes at you? Appropriate! See, not even women can give advice for easy things such as these. You say this and another truck of women will say "Grocery store is for buying groceries, not flirting!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 04:01 PM
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Most people are trying to shame women for leaving marriages According to?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 03:36 PM
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>Women don't really see the difference between faking it and actually being confident. Thats because there is another word for when you don't appear confident, arrogance. This is where the "assholes" that are also not popular with the girls stay. I followed the confidence advice and my now wife spotted it and called bullshit on it mid date. She said she liked my shy persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:28 PM
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Pretty boys are more masculine than your average joe. They often have hollow cheeks, defined jawlines, long frame...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:53 PM
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In short, my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:22 PM
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Lack of options Sunken Cost fallacy The good old "Bad is better than boring" I know a guy who says "if she doesn't nag any action i make, i don't want it". I don't understand what goes through this kind of people's head, but this and "i can fix him" girls are not uncommon thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:16 PM
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add that "Sunken cost fallacy" this part often comes deep into the relationship. If my wife started becoming bitchy right now i would not leave her and would just tolerate. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:13 PM
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Gotta put that on the prenup man! You never know! lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:11 PM
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Cute(in looks and personality), delicate, modest, likes cute animals/babies, down to earth. Pre-requisites: Loyalty, no smoking, no drinking (unless in rare occasions).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:10 PM
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Halo effect. What attractive people do makes the act itself seem attractive. Henry Cavill building a PC has confused some women to think they like tech nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:14 PM
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"don't do gym selfies"! Meanwhile Chad and Stacy with sweaty gym selfies: 999 likes I have a motto that is: Unless you are on a place littered with dead bodies on the floor, caring more about the ambient, lighting and "mood" of the photo means that the person occupying that photo is least interesting thing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:59 AM
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Women already tried to do this by pretending to be a man on tinder. They got frustrated by the lack of matches. If you photo is clear, what will carry you through is not the angles or poses, it's the organism filling that space. Women already know this. Sometimes they get advice from men to "dress feminine" while pretty girl is getting all the attention with sweaty gym selfie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:53 AM
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There is an army of people that say otherwise. In the end it doesn't matter. The clothing isn't the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:06 AM
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An autistic woman posted a TikTok video saying that it was super hard to find someone as an autist lady. She got hit on by the entirety of the population of china and took the video down. Later she posted a video addressing this, she then said she already had a boyfriend. But even if she had not, she wouldn't want to date with someone starting online.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:03 AM
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Another victim of blonde chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:55 PM
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Lil bro got mercury pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:52 PM
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Raw meat is very appetizing to look at. In comparison, I find raw chicken disgusting, cook that asap. Red color awakens the thirst for blooooood!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:50 PM
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Billions of sperm per day, one egg per month. Supply and demand, woman more valuable than man biologically. It's OVER for most Y chromosomes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:47 PM
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It's always super funny to see vanilla dating advice. Guys having trouble finding dates, online for exame, will get advices like: No mirror photos, put on better clothing, women likes suits, do that! Then a guy does this, like the one Asian guy someone one posted here a few days ago, and people start saying he is overdressed by using suits. I really don't know if there exists a collectice hivemind that simply refuses to acknowledge that some people are just ugly and old, they sooner blame the po…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:42 PM
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Tbh I tasted raw milk during childhood and it was fucking delicious. Why bacteria have to ruin everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:21 PM
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I wish I had the money/time to commit to animal based diets. Red meat is too expensive, so is finding other carb sources other than grains and bread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:17 PM
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One thing needs to be clear here, people (women mostly) are twisting the definition of "ick". Ick is an impulsive disgust reaction (hence the name) to something, its not rational, you look/hear the thing, you feel disgusted, thats an ick. Defining "being abusive" as an ick is wrong, because first, this is anger and moral disapproval, not disgust, second, this is a rational reaction, if being abusive was an impulsive "ick" to the general popukation, abusive people would be single, instead of havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 05:55 PM
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First of all, you have a wrong view of what consists generic quality. A peacock tail when too big is bad for the survival of the peacock, makes him clumsy , hard to move. But females prefer these type of tails. Due to that, large tailed less survival fit males reproduce more than the ones who have smaller tails better for survival. Genetic quality means the genes that have higher chance to reproducing, not necessarily surviving. Second, you mention intelligence, but is intelligence genetic? It m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 02:34 PM
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Chads and Stacies being bad people is just envy, they need to have some bad qualities to offset their beauty, so that the average/ugly person feels better about being honest/intelligent/honest... If they are just normal or good in other aspects, it triggers an inferiority complex response "They can't be all that, they can't be all that" its the bruised ego showing. In reality, there are pretty people that are good, intelligent and honest, and ugly people that are dumb, dishonest and bad. Its a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:13 PM
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Hookup means a woman is risking pregnancy with a male that won't commit, therefore they need to at least be "safe" that if a pregnancy happens, the child will have good genes, therefore good genetic qualities (6 feet, 6 pack, handsome...). This strategy is what you see in peacocks. Its proportionally much rarer that women will be willing to hook up with average men. LTR standards for women are not a monolith, some want to LTR with the same "Chads" of the hookup, but the strategy that is more com…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:02 PM
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Reasons that I believe cause this: IRL Socialization now ironically has too big of a social cost, everything needs to start online first then IRL. The idea that men approaching women is threatening due to inherent belief that men are dangerous and that approaching makes them feel unsafe. Cold approach is basically dead, too low success rate. Potential fear of social repercussions if an approach backfires and gets seen as harassment or impoliteness. Simply being seen as cringe, or as Impolite has…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 10:13 AM
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Lemme explain the rules of the game. If woman do bad thing online = it's rage bait. If woman virtue sinal online = it's genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:39 AM
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Can't make this shit up, lol. Person that has emoji ick saying that those icks are not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:35 AM
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A lot of these were not invisible, but hiding. As soon as they show they exist, there is dick ready for them. This applies even to disabled women, I saw one news of a woman in a wheelchair(she was not attractive) hanging out with average guys. I will agree with a woman that she is invisible if she hops online dating and gets 0 matches and 0 attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:50 PM
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Your examples are not from people that are invisible, but people that are getting rejected by those they like. If a woman wants to claim they're invisible , they need first to hop on OLD, make a profile and get 0 matches. Or other things like never getting a compliment from the opposite sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:34 PM
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pet your dog without consent either. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:29 PM
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Thank you master windmill, now I know there are people who actually think this. And should stay away from marriage. BRB I'm going to charge my wife for sexual assault because she hugged me without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:24 PM
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It doesn't matter, having sex = not incel. Again, whores are still virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:14 PM
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The people that are jumping for trump In a trump rally are simping for him If you are in the rally to show support. , you are simpining for him. You can find photos online of women with a trump flag, the maga hat and holding a gun to show support. This is the same thing. Are they all red pills,incels?(which is already a distortion of a word, because RP and incels are different things).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:12 PM
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Jumping like a dork isn't red pill, but simping for Trump absolutely is. Conservative women jumping in the trump rallies = red pill This is you destroying the meaning of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 05:07 PM
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Paying for sex doesn't remove a guy from the incel rolls Whores are still virgins too then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:38 PM
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Blackpill is the belief that only looks matter in dating, frequently expanding to "Only genetic heritable looks matter" in dating. This is separated from incelism Any blue pilled person can be an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:35 PM
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Is self improvement a new religion? What if he is trying to be a basement dweller? What does that change?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:58 AM
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The evidence is that you can't say one person is more suicidal than the other because they attempted more, since the first died. It's a flawed argument, a fallacy, the conclusion does not follow from the premises. Non sequitur What you're saying is that someone who has failed at physics likes physics more than someone someone who passed, because the first attended more classes until they passed. Ever seen those documentaries on people who survive jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge? I’ve never se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:25 PM
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Lady, if someone fails suicide its evident they are going to attempt more than someone who succeded in the first attempt. Person A and B tried to overdose with a medication C that has 20% chance of death Person A failed 3 times and succeeded on the 4th Person B got it on the first try Does that imply that person A is more suicidal than person B? Of course not, the only way for you to know this is IF person B had failed the attempt and then gave up afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:45 PM
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I'm just stating that women actually try to commit more suicide than men. It's just that they "fail more" because they use less dangerous methods If you fail more, you are going to attempt more, it does not imply that you want to attempt more than the person who succeeded first, i.e it does not imply you're more suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:41 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763412001510?via%3Dihub Same thing in this article, but the definition of neuroticism is Measures of N consist of items referring to negative affect, including anxiety, irritability, anger, worry, frustration, self-consciousness, sensitivity to criticism, reactivity, hostility, and vulnerability (Costa and McCrae, 1992, Eysenck and Eysenck, 1975, Ormel, 1983). Hence, N is widely defined as the tendency to experience negative affect, espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:37 PM
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Flawless logic. People smile to the camera because they're happy not because it's a social norm. People who don't smile to the camera must be unhappy. That's an even worse reason lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 11:25 PM
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I don't know what does this have to do with smiling = making ugly people look prettier. Yeah you're a hipster, the point is that he is considered attractive regardless of smile. Ugly people don't become better smiling But anyway, receive the truth. Smiling = halo effect for attractive people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU_bjSbw0bk Also very culturally sensitive, as carefree smiling isn't seen in a much positive light on other cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:03 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/hciosqa1ww3e1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=350fe9e64d9d8cd1356c98f86ab9f33f5e867fa5 I bet he would get a lot more dates if he was smiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:50 PM
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Bald and non white living in a western country. Also 35 (cue in the Red pillers saying that the best time for dating for a man is in his 30s) (Ask and you shall receive the racepill)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:46 PM
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MFW you get career, money, "get better personality" and "self-improve" only to become an incel in your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:35 PM
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If you framed this question to "Not sharing your personal life on social media" you would have had a lot of better responses. All my social media usage is anonymous here on reddit, mostly to look for solutions to hardware/software problems, sites for books. And arguing. Limiting the usage to such an extreme degree will just be objectively harmful, even if its 1 in 10000 i've saved some reddit posts that contain useful stuff for my life. And reddit is one of the few websites that you can actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 07:09 PM
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This is the basic snapshot for when you've been settled for. Anything is an excuse to not have sex. If the guy makes significantly more than her, its classic betabuxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 06:53 PM
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Poor left wing husbands <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:08 PM
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I'm not saying it will work in general, read again, it can work for a specific women orbiter simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 04:05 PM
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The numbers are irrelevant, all i'm saying is that these women are actually quitting the market because they were part of it, since there were people wanting them. The ocasional shitty relationship is enough for them(simps) to get laid for a short period of time, hell, even the positive attention satisfies them, so the leverage to sex strike in order to ask for better behavior could work for the 4B's orbiters simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:58 PM
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I GET IT NOW, THANKS!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:55 PM
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Wrong. Only fans models have an army of simps that are there solely to get approval from mommy, they have 0 chance of fucking her but still simp to get her attention and get callouts and nice things said to them. And women settle, i don't think i need much else to say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:44 PM
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Checkmate, too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:40 PM
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Nope. Here is my take Ach ist das wieder einfach heute für die deutsche professionelle elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen", bestehend aus dem Präzisionsscharfschützen Florian "syrsoN" Rische, Sprühtalentspieler Can "XANTARES" Dörtkardeş, Weltklasseansager Johannes "tabseN" Wodarz, Vertikalschnipsikone Tizian "tiziaN" Feldbusch & auch dem verrückten Gewehrspezialisten Nils "k1to" Gruhne von der deutschen professionellen elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überreg…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:39 PM
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Which begs the question on who is forcing them to adopt these ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:32 PM
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Not getting positive attention from these women. Not having any more chance to being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:29 PM
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Voluntary colonialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:28 PM
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Hookers always existed yet simps only become more numerous and more desperate, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:27 PM
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Of course it is, lol, because men are pretty fine having sex without commitment rather than having no sex at all. This is why women leverage sex to get commitment, and it works. Now, they will leverage sex to get "better behavior" and its bound to work with how many simps are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:27 PM
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First of all, what do this have to do with mgtows, do you think they don't work? ahahhahahaha. Second, if women did the same, the world would also collapse, 40% of the workforce is female. Third, here is a caveat, if half of the women in child bearing ages decided to not have kids, we would be back to the jungle in a few generations. Thats if men didn't simply start wars to get rid of the excess.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:22 PM
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But if the simps want them, they will get affected by the sex strike and then "behave better" to please those
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:57 PM
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Goalpost ---> Moved
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:40 PM
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But simps want them, and with enough compensation they could score one of these women, even if its to get dumped shortly after. They don't miss simps, but simps miss them, this is bargaining power.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:38 PM
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It doesn't matter that they would be satisfied, the simps would still miss them, which is where their barganing power comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:35 PM
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<image> These women here could pull an army of simps easily. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-election-american-women-4b-movement-1981891
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:43 PM
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Undesirable women almost don't exist, there is always some desperate man around the corner willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:35 PM
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They weren't, but they could very much date the armies of desperate man that exist out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:35 PM
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They have some. A lot of mgtows have 0. Hence why they become mgtow in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:08 PM
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I've already seen many 4B women relapsing. Only a small portion of these people actually commit. For both MGTOW and 4B. Plus look at how "quiet" they are https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1gli4en/anyone_else_joining_the_4b_movement/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:56 PM
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The difference is that 4B women have bargaining power to say they quit by themselves. Whereas MGTOW is more like MSTOW (men sent their own way), most of them weren't wanted in the first place. Like a hobo saying they won't buy any more Louis Vuitton products. In both groups, they always relapse and play a passive aggressive game when they say they want to quit but never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:55 PM
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He shared his experience and you just said "no, that didn't happen" If you're not a troll, I hope you are not neurotyoical, otherwise you gotta be the most dense person I've seen in all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:39 PM
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And women that are ashamed of their sexuality due to religious upbringing should just learn it, right? No real problem with that upbringing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:35 PM
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If by cooking you mean basic meals that everybody needs to know, yes. But sometimes "can you cook" means "can you cook well?" like making recipes and making tasty elaborate food, that is not required.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:52 PM

"Plenty" yeah this is your opinion, confidence is located on the extraversion spectrum. I rather trust accurate definitions than your opinion. An introvert can be the life of the party at a social gathering provided it's small and they run in circles with fewer strangers. Now you're just trolling me. Look, if you're projecting your behavior into introversion, i tell you, you are not introverted. And confident introverts absolutely are extremely desirable and in fact a lot of women actually have …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:23 PM
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He is specifically talking about men here. Autistic women have far less problem with getting laid than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:20 PM
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Oh come on, not another one of these "men are just sex craved emotionless beasts". Casual sex requires no deep emotional connection. For both men and women. The reason for higher virginity rates in male autists is because the norm is for males to approach females and court them. Autistic of both sexes will be very reluctant to do that, but since women are the ones being approached, and the ones who are supposed to be courted, they have less of a problem with that. LTR and friendships both requir…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:14 PM
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the expectation for small-dicked men within most relationships is that they either use a strap-on/penis extender, What the hell. Well I guess I don't have a small dicks then yesssss. I had no idea about what this was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:43 AM

This post is an obvious troll but I don't know what it's trying to say. Windmill flower trolls are more straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:20 AM
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Love the people overthinking. Autistic men face more trouble than autistic women because the social norm is: Man approaches woman and carries the social interaction, trying to keep the woman interested. Autistic women don't have the same problem because they get approached by neurotypical men and these men will try to keep the woman interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:09 AM

Sorry but I rather follow the psychological model that clearly states that shy and timidness are opposed to confidence rather than entertain your wishful thinking. Shyness implies being uncomfortable with social interaction due to fear of judgement, opposed to confidence. Timidness is synonym with diffidence, the opposite of confidence. It's someone who has self doubts and thus is reluctant to show their talents. Both of these are on the scale of introversion, not all introverted people are timi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:35 AM
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Women are picky when considering casual sex partners, which by definition entails no investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:16 PM

Wrong. Confidence is extraversion. Hence why people can see when you're confident. If you're shy, you can't be confident. If you're timid, you can't be confident. By the way, personalities are in large part acquired, so I don't know what you are talking as if acquired traits can't be part of personality. One of the earliest measures of self-confidence used a 12-point scale, ranging from a minimum score characterizing someone who is "timid and self-distrustful, shy, never makes decisions, self-ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:01 PM
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Goalpost move denied. You said that "women give bad advice" is a lie. You got debunked, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:01 PM
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Women do give bad advice, its already published research. When asked what their priorities, women mention personality over looks and money, but looks are the most important. So if you were to ask what a woman wants, they would say "personality" and you would fail because what they say and what they want is different. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:42 PM
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This is irrelevant, people will keep calling french people cowards even when corrected, the stereotype is repeated over and over, being correct is irrelevant to the social status quo. The stereotype will be continuously reproduced despite its validity, its group think, not rationality. What matters is not the accuracy, but the mentality of the group. The group thinks that shaming french people is ok, the group does not think shaming black people is ok. You keep dodging the question over and over…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:39 PM
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You keep saying "we" you are you, you speak for youself. And options are something that you want, you can take, and is available to you. I have 20k, i want a car, i have multiple brands to choose, these are all options, whether or not i don't like chevrolet or Jeep hardly matters, these are all cars that are available for me to buy. Again, i don't get to say a supermaket likes chocolate options when they have 10 of them, just because i don't like any. Thats final. Learn to speak for yourself and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:33 PM
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Every stereotype is founded on a pattern observation, ranging from personal anecdotes to scientific research. French people and surrendering is a stereotype, a false one, because its based on one war. So your call of stereotype = reality is misguided at best. Asians have stereotypes of being cold, asexual and good at math, and bad drivers. Ok so if someone has the stereotype of black = criminal, can they go online SHAMING black people if they don't have any other information? Also, women commit …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:26 PM
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Whenever i see women saying that to get a girl you just need to be "a decent human being" i wonder why is it so hard to find single guys in prison, quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:11 PM
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No, you get the options and decide they are not good. If i'm buying chocolate at a market, i can't claim i have no options because none of the chocolates are good for my taste. Again, just like a company complaining that they can't find good workers even though the market is saturated with them. I'm married btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:54 PM
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Correlation is not causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:33 AM
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Oh yeah, because If he said "Renowned philosopher" he would also get the same number of matches Totally to do with the skill and intelligence, nothing to do with status and money. I really don't know why women like to virtue signal so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:31 AM
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You gotta stop trolling me. I'm asking you If you find this ok. There is no evidence to back it up, and no study. The one that you showed me tells the opposite of the stereotype. So, by consistency, an unfounded stereotype should not be acted upon, do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:13 AM
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Women are not complaining about lack of options, they are complaining because they are not satisfied with the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:05 AM
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My dude, you have to show that small penis men are compensating in whatever way whatsoever before asking me to give any explanation. Let alone that these guys are more aggressive. You aren't willing this correlation into reality. Either show proof or bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:00 AM
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Marx? Add that the 20th too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:44 PM
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So since it's the same false correlation as the small member, both are not okay, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:43 PM
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She lives in the house that needs bills paid, she is not above paid work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:35 PM
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Correlation with what? Small dick energy is used basically for "he does something i don't like" And you haven't shown the correlation anyway. Speaking of correlation, if this is the justification, then there is a certain... correlation, relating a certain demographic that makes up 13% of something but do 52% of something, very popular correlation among white supremacists, is it ok to use it, or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:32 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:29 PM
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Wow, based popper.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:28 PM
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Sarcasm. If what the woman above said was true, then being a friend of a woman would basically guarantee you a partner, but that is not observed. You can enjoy the treatment of someone without feeling the need to date them. You woman basically do your own version of AWALT when it is to talk about "personality"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:54 PM
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Hence why its basically impossible to be good friends with a woman, because they will always try to date you, smh....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:34 PM
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I could also rage at you because you show tremendous lack of understanding of something you are talking about, but i like to conserve my strong emotions for more appropriate occasions. BB, Application reviewer, i could never know of the hardships you go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:30 PM
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The one who is crying a river and raging at me is you. I made an analogy, you decided to rage at me apparently because you run a business or you review applications. None of what you say is going to change that one is having a much harder time than the other. Nothing personal, just business.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:22 PM
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True, i will post an instagram reel with my iphone 16 pro max, these applicants don't know how hard is the life of the average company with excess of applications. Check your privilege, indebted qualified people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:20 PM
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Date for intents of sex and for intent of LTR there are tons of applicants all the same. One is just more numerous than the other. And i guess you agree with the point then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:17 PM
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Companies telling how hard it is to find good applicants while the same applicants are drowning in debt and running on antidepressants...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:15 PM
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They can date and have sex, they can just ask for sex on any OLD and get sex. Both cases there are tons of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:11 PM
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Marx when popper asks when is capitalism going to fall: "Any second now"- Repeated for more than a century, and counting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:09 PM
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Sorry i'm not thrilled to hear about how hard it is for a company that isn't concerned to not starve. And thats from someone who has reviewed applications in the past. The balance is obvious, too much offer implies companies are at advantage, too much demand, workers at advantage. The most common scenario is the first. Seethe all you want, guess i touched a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:08 PM
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Speak for yourself, not for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:03 PM

Every day another windmill bait thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:18 PM
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As much as it is hard for a company to hire someone when the market is saturated with workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:03 PM
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My reply to you is still there. That's my engagement with you on that thread. The person that deleted the comments os another user, and he mass deleted it everywhere. I made multiple comments in that thread and they are all there. Stop lying I'm just calling you on your BS. Have a nice day lying again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:58 PM
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It’s a pretty strong probability when weighing out the different theories. Show me the calcs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:52 PM
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Nome of my comments were removed, they were from another user. You really aren't ashamed of lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:33 PM
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Consider a stereotypical example of a man with a small penis who compensates by buying a huge truck and putting it on huge rims and lifting it up to make it look even bigger and then Have you actually looked it up to see if the stereotype holds any truth? Why you need to attach some anatomic trait to something that is a behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:20 AM
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4 comments below and you said "if their good men, then they wouldn't be virgins at 25" Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:56 AM
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Well to answer a question of something you haven't experienced, it's good for you to do research before dismissing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:09 PM
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The famous obesity problem that affects only women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:56 PM
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This is pure speculation. There is no conclusive evidence to why they were small. For all we know, they could simply be because the focus of the sculpture is the perfection of the body as a whole, putting less emphasis on genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:56 PM
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Bitch means female dog. Your analogy just collapsed. I dick a like for like analogy and you can see how the addition of small is unnecessary when "dick" is already an insult
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:59 PM

"incels without hate" was shutdown without violent remarks. The red pill sub was quarantined likewise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:57 PM
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Big dick emergy - good Dick -bad Why the need to add the small?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:54 PM
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Most normal people can understand body language of sadness and anger from their SO's. Men know when their partner is angry, what they don't know is why. This is where the mind reading part comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:49 PM
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To help the ladies here: Wife is mad at husband Husband asks "What is the problem ?" "Nothing" Now husband is confused trying to figure out what he did or what happened that she is mad at. This is where the mind reading comes from. The answer given is "He should know what he did that made me upset".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:47 PM
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Most people are able to perceive body language of sadness and anger, babies do it. The problem isn't in detecting they are mad or sad, the problem comes to know WHY. And this is the part that the mind reading comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:44 PM
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Then don't get bothered when others show their own anecdotes, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:41 PM
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'bitch energy" is not a thing. Do you see it as a popular term? The word dick can be used as an insult much like bitch. This isn't the point, the point is that small dicks energy is a shaming term that associates a body part with a certain type of behavior. The analogue of it would be "small ass energy", but this is not used.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:38 PM
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Your anedotic claim was responded by another anedotic claim and then you responded with another. This is what usually happens when you make generalizations from anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:35 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/shorts/FSMUGmGhy0o Now you've seen it. There is more if you use Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:33 PM
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Female erotic content is simply less numerous to a large degree. Even when you look at popular types of female erotica, for each one of them, there are thousands of porn videos for a male audience. Because women have lower demand for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:27 PM
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So you have only anedotic evidence and complains about anedotic evidence? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:20 PM
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You haven't, but this here indicates that you would, lol https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1gg86kc/virgin_men/lupnv53/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:17 PM
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This question was previously asked here One of the answers https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1gg86kc/virgin_men/lupnv53/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:15 PM
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You answered nothing. Yes everybody knows that adding a word can change it. The whole point is why is it ok to shame another for having small dicks? Hence why I said , what os the counterpart to bad bitch energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:14 PM
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Where is the 32 year old virgin short guy when you need him. Come here and tell your story, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:53 PM
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What is the counterpart to bad bitch energy and when is it used to shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:50 PM
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There's a video of a guy vlogging his trip to Japan(not a passport bro) One japanese girl gets close to him and starts saying "fuck me, fuck me". Even handsome guys don't get this so explicitly. Another guy went to a club in Osaka and got to kiss a Korean model. Idk about you but that looks like top 5% treatment for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:44 PM
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And you agreed with them. Since the claim was "Men far outdoor women..." And you said "studies show this is true ". You agreed and now is just backpedaling
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:47 PM
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I know because you can see that the content does not get much attention. Gaming content has 10-100x the views, likes and interaction compared to RP, gaming is a popular topic among men. Any other topic such as movies, politics... all get much much more traction than RP does. The majority of men being undesired by women is not a rp principle? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:09 PM
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The duality of Men lack socials skills and how to talk to women Men are more manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:16 PM
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First of all you don't know that. Second, this is not a RP principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:13 PM
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You won't find many single men in prison. Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:02 PM
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The "be confident, be outgoing" is advice given by women to men. So they are shooting themselves in the foot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:56 PM
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I was a shy guy that listened to this "confidence advice" and it almost fucked it up entirely. My now wife stopped mid date for me to quit the act because what she liked in me was the shy and reserved personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:54 PM
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So here is a thing Most common advice given to men to attract women: "How do i attract women?" "Be confident! Women like confidence!" Disregards the fact that confidence is a personality trait. Therefore, this advice essentially reads as: "If you don't have certain personality trait, fake it" Then, after the faking: "Why men fake their personalities?" I almost fucked up with this with my wife while dating. I was looking for advice and i got this same advice, be confident, be outgoing, blah blah …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:49 PM
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RP content possesses far less viewership than regular content. Videos seldom reach millions, compare the amount of publicity and viewership of RP content versus Gaming(which is overwhelmingly male) and you will realize that its a minority movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:31 PM
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Caring about feeling is fucking part of a romance man, this is what I saw, since in those situations women lost "feelings" for a man, and that's why they cheat or nag or leave. I do chores even if I live alone, and my house is clean. Its not, a mother cares about the feelings of her children and vice-versa, there is no romance between the two. This is companionship Then you don't be a bitch and leave her on the spot, since if she is not offering you a romance, why are you staying? Who says they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:27 PM
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Most people don't even know what the RP is, and it is something that is around for almost 30 years
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:15 PM
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You have very little experience. And at best you have the story of online one side and of people who obviously will not say they are wrong. You know only the surface of the guys you were talking about, and isn't in the position to judge Much like there are "men who take it for granted" there are women who nag, don't want sex, just wants more and more money. So chicken and the egg, did the guy slack off because the woman got cold or the woman got cold because he slacked off? I am with my wife for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:04 PM
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My guy, are you taking for granted what cheaters say to you? Women that date married men will say their wife hates them, no sex, she got fat, demands money all the time. Terrible references. These people will never say they are just cheating pieces of garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:54 PM
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Are you married on in an LTR. If yes, for how long?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:48 PM
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If you are going to marry, you have to understand you are going to spend most of your time not having sex nor doing romantic things. You will have to work, to do chores, to give emotional support, you will spend most of the time being a companion to your partner, if you don't like doing that, get the fuck away from marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:38 PM
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Its because its just a stupid stereotype of how a bad partner of a gender behaves, she threw the generalization and i just threw it right back at her. Its typical BS of people who had bad relationships or have none and generalize out of theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:35 PM

I've already answered yes to this 3 times. If the father agrees, the mother can give it up to adoption, if he has rights severed, the mother can give it up to adoption. I think i'm the one being trolled here. Or even if she gives up parental rights to the child legally, do you believe she should still being forced to pay child support? Yes, if you don't want to take care of the kid, your problem, you still need to support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:38 PM
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Yes there was someone finger pointing, but i noticed i replied to the wrong person. One blue pill woman that answered to you, but i already put the correct answer to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:26 PM

Of course i would be in favor, but not just the mother, but the father aswell. Mother commits crime against child --> Parental rights severed --> Father can decide on adoption alone Father commits crime against child --> Parental rights severed --> Mother can decide on adoption alone. I really don't know what type of double standards are you trying to show here. There is none. If both parents are normal people and did not do any criminal action against their children OR is a criminal that is a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:23 PM
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I don't know if you realized, but my response is just the flipped version of the stereotypical "bad partner" relationship, but from a man's POV. I'm just showing how finger pointing is silly. Me and my wife will go on trips far more often now than in the beggining, but the intensity and energy is still lower than in the beggining, we just grew older, we work more. It doesn't suck in the slightest, its good to have someone there for you regardless of adventures. We are closer now in terms of actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:15 PM
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You are arguing with your own straw man, all of what is shown is that physically attractiveness is more important than other aspects despite not being something stated. Nobody is saying women will only go for 9.5. Your pretense of a topic attempted to show that money and status are more important, and you got debunked on that. Plus, 6/7 is not average at all, thats above average. Average is a 5/10. Plus, most women agree that Henry Cavill(Very attractive) is more attractive than Adam sandler(Ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:28 PM
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If you go around stereotypes, women do dating 2.0 even before marriage. The libido and desire for physical intimacy will drop far quicker than the man's Demands for better presents/demonstration of love (boyfriend X gave girlfriend Y present Z, and i deserve no less than that) Nosing on the guy's fashion sense starts. Get better clothes, get better haircut, shave that beard. One-sided increase of emotional needs. All that during the courting phase, and the man will accept all of that to not lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:15 PM
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Thats during the honeymoon phase, women will drop their libido and agreableness in the first months in, far before marriage. Men will still try to chase up to that without it being worth it. Men slack off because women lose interest and start comparing her boyfriend to everyone else, and change their priorities to "be happy" to "i deserve no less than..." and starting to nag about every "flaw" that you have that didn't bother her in the beggining. Do the work to keep the man interested, if you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:50 AM
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So you know that libido falls, you shouldn't simply give that terrible advice specially if you are in an LTR yourself. Every partner will adapt to each other given normal changes, when they like each other. Anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:46 AM
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You can also not be a premature ejaculator and do bad sex with frequency regardless. Did your partner's libido fall?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:42 AM
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Oh yeah, sex twice a day with premature ejaculation is better than sex 3x/week with enjoyment for both parties. Are you married on in LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:38 AM
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Your advice already changed, from "fucking" to "fucking them right" fucking right doesn't really have a lot to do with frequency. Are you married on in a LTR? Also, you can’t really be “cucked” if you’re also cheating on the partner doing the cheating. That doesn’t make sense. Yes, you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:33 AM
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So you will try to work it out, but the expected behavior of the woman is that she will either cheat or leave you? Hah, predictable. No surprise you hold out in the previous relationship while being cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:26 AM
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Sounds like FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:21 AM
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I'm with my wife for 12 years, i'm still enjoying it. Is it as intense as the beggining? No. Is it bad? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:16 AM
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Do you also cheat on your girlfrends when the sex frequency is less than what you are expacting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:15 AM
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All of this is obvious, the hard part is accomplishing this. Has a very common problem, often parents don't like their in laws and vice-versa, not something you can control. Kids will throw this into disarray. Men and women have different priorities and frequency goals in this. Tolerance of what consists lack of time for yourself and neglect of the relationship differ Some people don't do chores, some people don't have financial responsability Men and women have different priorities and frequenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:12 AM
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If women behaved the same way as the courting phase things would be much easier. But a few months in and the desire of physical intamacy is gone, the presents are good enough, the princess treatment gets demanded and the fashion overhaul of the man's clothes is required. Sounds reasonable? Life isn't a fairy tale, grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:02 AM
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You got debunked with other studies showing the difference between revealed and states preferences, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:29 AM
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There is no plenty. There is some, I don't know why is this relevant. Tate's physical game is carried by his height. He is very far from the handsome category. The whole point is that being shitty never was a disqualifier that made someone look less attractive when they are phisically attractive. Quite the opposite. Halo effect makes shitty people look less shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:24 AM
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The only thing that makes Tate attractive is his height. I don't think Andrew Tate is charismatic outside of his intended target audience. Overconfidence is arrogance, which is a negative trait. Again and again, being rich does not make women lust for you. No conclusive evidence shows that. The value of money is in another scope, of partnership and lifestyle. Or for the prostitutes that he pays for. Andrew Tate is hated by women by and large. Jeremy Meeks, despite being a criminal, was lusted fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:09 AM
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More like MGTOW, redpill is about getting pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:52 AM
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Andrew Tate is not objectively attractive at all, lol. He is bald(big disqualifier If you don't have a nice face) and has numerous defects on his face. If being shit was a problem, inmates would all be singles, but it reality, they seldom are. Jeremy Meeks was a literal criminal, women in droves thristing for the guy, asking to release him. He eventually got released and became a model worth million, later marrying a rich girl. All because he was handsome, him being a shitty person was irrelavan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:39 AM
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And the same studies show that in the case of physical attraction, stated and revealed preferences differ a lot. So it's pointless to show when they match when the in the topic in question, they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:31 AM
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It's not. Handsome faces possess a whole range of common traits. Plus, height. Height is unanimous is women's preferences, meaning tall = better. Also the biggest disqualifier for a partner. But when talking about men, people always forget that height is physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:27 AM
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Thank, this comments sums up what I tried to say, but I'm too burned out to have to paste the same links over and over. Revealed preferences vs stated preferences always plaguing behavioral studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:15 PM
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Having man hater symbols is not equal for the movement itself to be man hating. There are tons of misogynistic people in MRA movements, does that mean the entire movement is? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:48 PM
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The racist part is only equal to not wanting to be a parent If you are impaired. There is 0 bodily violations for a man when they pay child support. Forcing someone to have sex with one they don't want, no matter the reason, is rape. Again, and again, the not wanting to go through pregnancy is enough of a reason, the law isnt concerned with anything else. If you disagree with the other reasons, you do you, the law and ethics are cleae: for whatever reason, nobody should be forced to partake any …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:46 PM
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A parent can decide whether or not they want to carry a pregnancy. Again, if fetuses survived outside the womb, the woman wouldn't be free of child support. Parenthood does not exist before birth. Nobody is forced to pay child support before the child is born. A woman aborting is not opting out of parenthood, she is opting out of pregnancy. If you do a vasectomy, the outcome is the same as an abortion in the end, no kids. But vasectomy are not abortions. And abortions are not opting out of paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:42 PM
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How do I know you aren't cherry picking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:48 PM
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Statistics, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:01 PM
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men literally gain health and career benefits from being married compared to single men in ways that women don't, etc. No causal relationship was demonstrated here. Association is mere correlation. Women also gain benefits from marrying statistically (such as life expectancy), but a correlation is still a correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:56 PM
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And men can expect a maid even when they don't provide to the house. Doesn't mean that women have to accept this. Simply stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:36 PM
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Providing gaps are closing and housework gaps are also closing. Transition phase is transition phase. Both sides have stubborn people wanting only advantages. Men who don't have to provide for all but don't want to do housework. Women who can provide to themselves but want a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:35 PM
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Then getting into a relationship is no longer advantageous. If women can provide for themselves, they should not expect a provider partner. And society simply needs to gradually change their view with time until men aren't required to provide anymore, Instead of men simply taking it on the chin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:32 PM
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The physical strength part rubs me wrong for a few reasons. Women are more vulnerable to be injured and killed by men, that part is obvious. However, I don't see how this equals to men having the advantage on an average relationship . Children have both financial, mental and physical disadvantages in a parent-offspring relationship. They are much more likely to be injured, killed, raped, suffer psychological abuse, be abandoned and left to starve... Yet you would be called a moron to suggest tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:29 PM
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Do you think it would be unjust for a court system to severe parental rights from a father or mother who has repeatedly sexually abused a child or pimped out their child? I don't. Those are the kind of circumstances where parental rights are severed. Is this a serious question? Whatever is wrong with the fact that a raped child needs to be protected by the state when they are being raped by their parents? Do support that in the case of woman giving up parental rights via adoption, she is no long…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:35 AM
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Not wrong. If a woman simply wanted to not be a parent and had no problem with pregnancy, they would just put the child to adoption. But they have a problem with pregnancy, they don't want to go through it. And that's all that matters. The reasons are: not wanting to be a parent AND not wanting to go through pregnancy. The second reason is enough. It doesn't matter what the main reason is, or the true reason is. White people can refuse to date black people by simply giving them a BS excuse like …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:20 AM
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I fail to see how a parent can simply sever the other parents rights in adoption. Is this a regional thing? I've said many times here that specific laws are irrelevant to the discussion of the merit of law. You can have an entire set of unjust laws but it doesn't imply that I support them, nor does it imply that putting another unjust law is correct . Prisons on failure to pay child support are rare. Unemployed father's are not taken prison and is far easier to simply have their assets seized if…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:15 AM
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Financial abortion independs of that. A financia abortion is you saying you don't want to support that kid at all, independently of your job status.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:12 AM
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I've met plenty. Ones that were completely subservient to their husbands to ones that were not. I know one trad ex wife that doesn't even remarry just because the husband ordered it. While he is remarried himself. Now you're going to tell me patriarchy did not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:11 AM
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Custody issues is something else that needs to be solved through other means instead of simply giving men option to abandon their kids prior to their birth. If a mother wants to put the baby for adoption, the father can veto it and she will pay child support. There is no inequality here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:08 AM

All of what you said is wrong. And you pulled the classic "your data is wrong!!!!!" Excuse. Plus, old women are not dating youger men for you attempted and failed mental gymnastics to work, lol. Neither is older men to significant degree, age gap relationships are rare To your dismay, I'm married. So I'm here just to show how you are dishonest, illiterate and dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:24 AM

This explains the frustration of many young men in dating. The "wall" is just women equaling and then outnumbering men in the mid 30s. This is what you wrote. You have to decide yourself, either women outnumber men at mid 30 or they don't. Quit moving the goal post. Btw in the US,women only start outnumbering men past the age of 60. https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2020/ So all in all bullshit. By your theory, only 60+ men should have advantage in dating. Easily not tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:25 PM
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"only dating people who have no social media" is now on my list of most based things said ever. TOO BASED
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:42 PM
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Your stats on male babies is misleading, you're taking global averages that are skewed by places with high population such as china and india. There are plenty of places with severe deficit in men, such as Russia. Plus, if you want to talk specific places. In the US men outnumber women aged 30-45 by 1.066, so about 107 men to 100 women, if population is all that mattered, the "wall" that you mention which is supposedly caused by women outnumbering men wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:16 PM
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Adoption only happens with the consent of both parents, if one parent doesn't want it, no adoption happens, and the non-willing parent has to pay child support. I'm against safe haven laws, for the record. The reasoning is that in adoption, someone else WILLINGLY takes your responsabilities for you, in other scenarios, the state (so the taxpayers) would take it just because you don't want to have a child. I'm all in for people who do financial abortions when both sides agree. This is not whats b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:07 PM
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You presented no argument for that, you merely saying "being submissive and smaller" If you can't write your ideas properly, you should learn how to communicate. Besides, there is no proof that being submissive as an adult women (or men) in a relationship is inherently bad. Your idea of submissiveness is slavery or worse, this is why you write this nonsense. End of the discussion anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:17 PM
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I am not putting them in the same category. You blanket stated that being submissive is bad and i gave the child counter example. Whether or not the child is disciplined, they still are submissive because their parents decide what they eat, wear and where their homes are and the decision making on the household is done by the parents, and no amount of complaining or how much freedom the kid has will change this reality. Kids have developing brains, but you seem to also have one, to fail simple r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:12 PM
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Your sources are not representative of the societal norms. Patriarchy entails that the men is the leader of the household. The wife has say of almost all of it mainly because the husband doesn't deal with it, but his word is final on the household. If he chooses to listen to his wife, thats his prerrogative. In reality husbands would do this and not be tyrants because the traditional family is more about division of labor than it is a power dynamic. There is no reason for a husband to nose on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:08 PM

Women want to date at their income level or above regardless of how much they earn. They reinforce the gender roles as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:02 PM
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How is being submissive = unable to complain? Children are submissive because the decisions of their lives are taken by others. Children obey their parents, respect them and in turn gain protection, get fed and leisure. They play no active role in the household and simply absorbs what they learn from an authority (the parents). If they fail to obey or respect or behave, they get punished and disciplined. This does not exclude having some sort of individuality or nor complaining. They are submiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:57 PM
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Children fit the bill of both being submissive and smaller but you'd be hard pressed that they're the ones disadvantaged in an average household.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:42 PM
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There is absolutely 0 problem with what you're describing, except that its not a trad husband, but a reversal of the trad roles. If you want a guy like this, go for it. Oh and average handsome is not a 7/10. Average is is average, handsome is handsome. 6/10 is already handsome, and 7/10 is getting close to actor and model levels, this is here is already a rarity. 8-10/10 are reserved for the most handsome of men. 8/10 is handsome actor level 9/10 is model level 10/10 is most handsome ever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:34 PM
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Why simply no votes, why instead of this, higher taxes for women, or less taxes for men or something else? I don't see what the army example necessarily entails no votes, this would be akin to say that the woman has the sole custody of a child because she was the one pregnant, and the father can eat dirt if he wants to take care of his kid. This could be easily resolved by conscription for women too. Something that is being suggested for a while now, and i'm not against.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:27 PM
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There are places where abortion is totally banned, therefore, is it pointless to discuss abortion? We are discussing the merit of the law itself, not where it exists and what are the other laws surrounding it. I can argue against the murder of gays even if everywhere it was legal to kill them. Loaning or extracting are not forced regardless, again, if the father was asked to be connected to his kid for a while to save his life, he wouldn't be forced to, nor punished if refused and no matter how …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:24 PM
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Nope, unemployed people are not sent to prison for lack of child support when the law is just. A law that imprisons a father for either being unemployed or poor is a bad law. You can look for examples(rare) of this happening, just as i can show you an example of a raped girl having to share custody with the rapist. The existence of unjust laws does not entail that another unjust law needs to take its place. Its far more common to, in face of flat out refusal to pay when there is money available,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:56 PM
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You can already opt out of parenthood via adoptions, which is the transfer of your responsability to someone else willing to take it. In other situations, i do not agree, the state(taxpayers) should not be forced to raise a child when you have the capacity to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:43 PM
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You are not forced to work, you can very much be unemployed and have a kid, and nobody is going to force you to get a job. Your argument is the one that don't make sense, You cannot logically say you want a way out (abortion) while also want to keep men tied to your choices as well. It just give you advantages for no drawback at the same time that give men no advantage with all the drawback. Pregnancy is by default a disadvantage, a woman suffer physiological changes in her body, is more vulnera…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:41 PM
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You don't understand what bodily autonomy is, because both loan and extraction can be refused by the father in the example. If they just asked him to be physically connected to the kid via one of his organs, he would still be able to deny it, because again, nobody can be forced to partake any sort of procedure that uses their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:36 PM
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I really don't know why the US laws simply dictate the entire debate. Do you know what else exist in the US? Total abortion ban, so this whole debate is pointless because in some states abortion doesn't exist? There is an entire world that is not the US, this discussion isn't about a country, but the merits of a law. We are discussing ethics, wheter or not a law is fair or not is independent of its existence somewhere. If a man makes clear to a woman that he does not want to be a father, but she…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:35 PM
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Wrong, Adoptions already exist, and is a way to give up parenthood. Women prefer to abort in place of putting their kids to adoption because: -They don't want to go through all the physiological changes of pregnancy -They don't want to become more vulnerable -They don't want to face health issues -They don't want to feel the intense pain of labor -They don't want to potentially die from it. In short, all related to their bodies. If pregnancy required little physical effort, abortion would be poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:25 PM
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So then, as long as selective-service applies only to men, no votes for women, right? I don't see how it would necessarily entail no votes. But i agree that if only men are required to do something, they either would need more rights OR women less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:22 PM
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You are not forced to work at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:21 PM
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Its not, you pay your taxes don't you? Is your bodily autonomy being violated? You don't need to work if you don't want to, you owe your child money like you owe a restaurant money if you eat something from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:20 PM
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Its not, if you owe someone money and they charge you, your bodily autonomy isn't violated. If you eat the food of a restaurant, you will be charged. This is the male equivalent of the terrible "just close your legs" or "just tie up your tubes" argument. Do you really want to go there? Read the passage again and realize how wrong your interpretation of it was. I was using the examples to debunk the argument that abortion is equal to a finantial abortion because it prevents someone from paying ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:19 PM
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The case of incubator babies would cause the abortion to not result in end of parental responsabilities. Adoption already exists, which is the transfer of your obligations to someone that wants it, giving a way for people to simply abandon their kids at the hands of the state is not something i agree with. And its not the topic in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:17 PM
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I don't see why the SA victim would have any sort of obligations with a child that was forced upon him via rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:14 PM
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Parenthood is the socially and legally enforced status of subordinating your own bodily autonomy to the needs of your child. So your claim is actually an incoherent claim of incoherence - the argument you claim is incoherent actually makes perfect sense. Tell me exactly what parts of parenthood violate bodily autonomy. Their argument does not equate bodily autonomy with parental responsibilities, it frames these two things as diametrically opposed! How are you getting this so wrong? Is English n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:13 PM
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Totally against.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:44 PM
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You could have just shortened it to "i don't have arguments"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:16 PM
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Not the term, the concept. Nobody should have the right to opt out of parenthood just because someone has the option to not give away their body to your kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:01 PM
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Abortion is about parenthood, bodily autonomy is the justification. You don't get an abortion because "my body my choice" you get an abortion because "I can't/don't want to be a parent". Medical issues aside. Arguing about "True intentions" is not an argument. Abortion is by law and ethics a bodily autonomy issue, whether or not you think the true objective is is irrelevant. This kind of argument is akin to "They want freedom of speech only to say racist stuff" Late term abortions are currently …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:59 PM
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Abortion is not about opting out of parenthood, its bodily autonomy, see the organ donation example. Moreover, some of these legal ways are not gendered except for one, and i am against this one. There is no need for "fairness" to do wrong things. Men and women have options to give their child to adoption IF both consent. This is just spiteful argumentatin with no thought in mind. We are not arguing here what the laws are, but what they should be. Many states in the US have banned abortion, does…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:50 PM
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Safe haven laws in itself are not exclusive to mothers. Only in places where there are baby boxes you can say its exclusive. Germany does not, nor does belgium, Netherlands. Of course, even with illegality, people abuse legal loopholes to put up ones. I am against safe haven laws anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:32 PM
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There was a time where no laws like that existed, and people fought for them to become true. If you think that safe haven laws (a bad law) is supposed to exist because some places in the US have banned abortion, stick to it, this is not my problem, i defend what i believe in, and where i live, abortion and adoptions are allowed, and safe havens are prohibited. I agree with this, and have no duty to defend anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:46 PM
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The only incoherent thing is assuming that US laws are valid for the entire world. We are discussing the merit of abortion, right? Not US laws. I for one, am completely against safe haven laws, but this is a regional problem. Imagine if i answered to you saying that "Oh no but in Poland abortion is not allowed! Asking for finantial abortions makes no sense!" None of this changes the fact that right to abortion =/= Right to finantially abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:57 PM
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Only in some places of the US. And if "some places" is a valid argument, then, Roe V wade overtuned, many places banned abortion. So now what? Europe KEEPS being on TOP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:51 PM
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Dude, chill, its just funny that the guy nailed it with precision. There is no argument here, i'm just explaining to you why the comment was made.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:50 PM
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They aspire into the purity of the blessed machine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:48 PM
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What matters is the guy nailed it by saying you were tall. Patterns are patterns for a reason, and tall guys are seen as far more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:44 PM
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People that are born to rich parents: Ohhhh, i am mature and accomplished! People that win the lottery: Wow, now i am super mature! Guys that gain money through speculation: My tactics of potentially breaking the market show how mature i am. Celebrities and models that are only there because they were born with a pretty face: My maturity is unmatched. Rockstars that overdose on heroin: I too make mature choices. Guy from a poor family working his ass off 24/7 but failed to become rich: Guess i n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:42 PM
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6'3 is tall in any part of europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:37 PM
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Follow me here: If i ejaculate inside a fertile woman, my sperm will reach her eggs, a zygote will form and will grow into a baby, correct? Baby need child support If i don't ejaculate inside a fertile woman, no zygote will form No zygote, no baby, no child support. Therefore, men have the ability to opt out of child support LMAO!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:27 PM
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Works out super fine here in Europe. Sorry you guys can't seem to deal with your own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:50 PM
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Again there is no baby, the fetus never had any right of child support, since he remains a fetus, there is no right of child support. A man does not need to pay child support to a pregnant woman, only after the pregnancy ends is he liable to it. Again, you keep talking "baby" because you believe its a baby, so why you simply say you're against abortion? Women have the right to not pay child support to kids who are not biologically there as well There is no analogue to paternity fraud rights to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:50 PM
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How should right wing people or men know this? This is a question to psychologists, or antropologists, not regular people. "Why are people hypocrites" is what he wants to know, this isn't a question for here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:39 PM
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Dead fetus remains a fetus, which never had or has right of child support. You have no counter argument to the paternity fraud analogy because your "equality" argument was debunked. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:28 PM
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Thankfully abortion and adoption exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:20 PM
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The only way this passes is if he doesn't know about his child. If he's biologically the father and he knows the mother wants to give the child away, he can. He can fill the putative father registry in advance. Besides, again, these laws shouldn't exist in the first place, instead of opening a wrong thing to be done to the other side, the bad thing should be prohibited.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:16 PM
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What baby? There is no baby. It is a fetus or embryo. Do you need to pay child support to the sperm you release while you fap? No? Is this a finantial abortion? No. What are you talking about If men can relinquish parental obligations in case of paternity fraud, women need a comparable right. If a wife cheats and gets pregnant by other, than the husband can fill for paternity fraud and be free from parental obligations. Therefore, if a husband cheats and impregnates another, than the wife can re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:13 PM
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Yes the world is the US, and no, not in every state, the father can veto the adoption attempt and then have the mother pay child support. Only in a few states where there is a literal dropbox is where this is permitted, which is about 13. Besides, safe haven laws are just another retarded US law.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:08 PM
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The graph directly disproves this hey will have her doing all of the emotional labor, cooking, cleaning, shopping, gift buying, social calendar, dog care, decorating, relationship maintenance, “make the house a home,” be pleasant and non confrontational, just chill. Have no needs, no boundaries, don’t expect him to do much, not play video games with his buddies because you want “quality time” together. He wants you to expect less while doing more. He wants all of the perks of a relationship with…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:06 PM
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Now you're just schizoing, so now specifically artist is better, despite Terrence tao not being one. Want an artist? Picasso, happy? You have provided 0 evidence that a world famous artist would be less attractive to women than a redpiller. Go ahead ask women who they would rather go on a date with, Evgeny Kissin or Andrew Tate You are the one who said that "people that are artists/etc" are more attractive, i never made such claim. What i'm saying since the beggining is that it makes no sense to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:00 PM
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Abortion is not a paper abortion just as a vasectomy is not an abortion. Abortion is the cessation of the pregnancy in the female body, IF fetuses could survive outside of the womb, the women would be liable for child support and wouldn't be able to finantially abort. Again, do you think women should have the right to leave their husbands and kids because her husband impregnated another woman? We don't give rights based on sex, women should have a comparable right for things to be equal. nonsens…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:49 PM
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No, they are right wingers, they just also happen to be hyprocrites. You gotta have a terrible reading comprehension to think i was making a true scotsman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:44 PM
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Why is it when right leaning men talk about personal responsibility they throw that thinking away when a woman is pregnant?Why is it when right leaning men talk about personal responsibility they throw that thinking away when a woman is pregnant? Your title, a generalization of right wing men (wrong) The other part i already answered, hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:25 PM
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Reason number one: 1-Redpill advice doesn't work 2- Redpill ideology is vague and diluted. You have tradcons who actively promote marriage, to other RPs that do spinning plates, to others who are MGTOws who call themselves RP, to self improvement grifters
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:24 PM
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The title is a straw man because you lumped all right wing people on the same basket. There are left win people who say they are against racism but they are actively racist against white people and jews. Its just hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:20 PM
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Your title is a straw man, i don't think being right wing implies that you think that a father shoulld be able to leave his children. The rest of your post is: Well, many people are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:14 PM
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Men do not have the right to finantial abortions just like women don't. Women have right to ABORTION, terminating the pregnancy on THEIR BODIES. If men could get pregnant, they would have the same right Just like only men can be victim of paternity fraud, do women deserve equality here and be able to leave their family if the husband impregnates another woman? No, because, you know, biology, women birth their kids, men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:09 PM
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In reality, it is the confidence that attracts women. Women judge us by our behavior and they see men who act with confidence, pride and who command respect as desirable mates, Unscientific BS Wait, this is probably a troll post. Edit: Guy blocked me in lightspeed Since there are people responding to me here, i will make one edit, but i can't answer because the i was blocked, can't comment more on the thread The experts say it "women judge confidence and personality first, not looks" is false. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:54 AM
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Value as a partner and sexual desirability are two different things. Money makes you be seen as a better potential partner for OTHER THINGS that are not sexual attraction. There is no conclusive evidence that money makes a man more sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:51 AM
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In egalitarian marriages, women do a few hours PER WEEK of housework more than men(on the flipside, the man also works a few hours more per week), your scenario that "women does every house chore, men does nothing" is an absolute outlier, mine is far closer to reality. <image> Women do 2.7h/week of more housework But men do 3.1h/week of more paid work The only gap that exists here is on caregiving, where women do 1.8/week more. Remember, this is PER WEEK. This pretty much disproves your hoax. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:43 AM
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I don't know, why do you assume the artist is more? And even if it is, if you're an average person, is the way to get dates to just become a world renowed artist? Of course not. Arthur Schopenhauer was and is a world renowed philosopher, but he was so misogynistic that it would put any red pill to shame, is he more appealing to women than the average redpill? Many "world renowed" people have had or are repulsive to women. Criminals very often have partners outside of the prison, is the way to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:21 AM
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I really don't understand why women here think that cooking cleaning and whatnot are considered the wife's duties nowadays. They aren't. This standard may apply to you let grandfather, but to young people they fail. "I dated" well I'm also right now marrying to a woman that in her entire life did way less housework than I do. I had to teach her how to clean some things. Anedotic evidence is anedotic. You spent your whole first paragraph talking about how you would exclude extreme examples, and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:22 PM
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Because you don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:09 PM
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Statistically? Women are harder to please Women get much more offended in relationships than men do. Women also are more neurotic. And they initiate more divorces. A similar pattern happens when you compare gay divorce vs lesbian divorce rates. With the latter being bigger. As a rule of thumb, men are pleased if the woman does not do bad things. A woman needs both not doing bad things, and doing good things. Women require more reassurance of love, looks, and "the little things". My wife is defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:07 PM
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Who is you guys? Also you need to be incredibly ignorant about morality if you think anything of what I said is postmodernism. (Something that is not even a thing in moral theory). Let me help you. Two different types of moral thought: consequentialism, deontology. "The end justify the means" is a consequentialist statement. Utilitarian, if it's easier to understand. Hopefully your brain starts working now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:54 PM
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The point is exactly what your last sentence implies. Being married is not evidence of sex appeal. Trump is married, should o project myself on him? If you want to ask this question, then you have to look and ask yourselfs: Are these guys on the tip of the tongues of women in terms of sex appeal? No Then it makes no sense for Pill spaces to try and mimic them to get dates. Specially since it's a bit nonsensical to think that you need to be a genius to marry. Some nice guys get dates, some asshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:57 PM
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The ends justify the means os 100% a moral stance, one that you don't agree, but moral nonetheless. By moral = it is an statement of moral beliefs. There are many different types of morals out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:39 PM
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Ok, show us your evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:33 PM
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Serial killers are an anomaly. You seldom see single drug dealers in prison. Inmates usually have girlfriends or wifea outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:33 PM
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"I know a guy" isn't an argument. As your classic married nerd, the bullies I knew are also either married or are being promiscuous around. Morality and dating are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:31 PM
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Introverted people are less likely to be successful with dating, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:30 PM
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Pill spaces are looking for people with high sex appeal. Getting married isn't a proof of that. There are men who are actively despised by women who are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:28 PM
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Psychopathy is a very specific thing. Being agressive isn't it. Though I agree that RP does kind of worship psychopathic traits, what Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson are talking about isn't psychopathy. Your preference for guys like Terrence Tao is a preference, but in term of dating, Guys like him are close to the bottom of the barrel in terms of sex appeal, so you're not going to ever see him being mentioned in RP spaces, neither woman spaces, hell, even most spaces. People usually put their ido…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:24 PM
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It is associated with PUA whether you like it or not. Isn't any less bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:16 PM
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Nope, I stumbled upon the red pill without even looking for it. I was during the time where they still talked about the matrix. And nowadays, RP content is superimposed with self improvement content.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:47 PM
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I know what it is, bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:45 PM
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If you are a white or black man from Europe or United States and you go to SEA or south America. You're going to be: Taller (more attractive) Have a higher income More status due to being from the Europe and US (specially if from Scandinavia) That puts your desirability up even if you're "weak or boring"(this hardly matters ) Also, the point of passport bro is to stay there. So you attract gold diggers or green card chasers, just pump and dump. Sure the competitiveness is becoming stronger becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:44 PM
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Confirmation bias. In the incel forums there are people like you, who did get jacked and healthy, and got nothing in return. The frustration comes from the advice being done as a way to get dates. If it fails, lost time. Go to the gym for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:39 PM
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Game is astrology for men. So is RP and PUA
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:00 PM
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I will quote you when other RP men says RP is "amoral" and "doesn't care about changing society"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:59 AM
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There is a pipeline from red pill and pua to incels and blackpill. But most of these guys were already single, looked for the RP to try and date, it failed, then they rebelled. It wouldn't be surprising that most of the people that look for dating advice are single. What matters is that RP advice doesn't work. Most dating advice is confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:55 AM
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Work out to get dates = recipe to frustration. Cutting out processed food = eat healthy is now dating advice? The only modern dating advice that actually works is passport broing, the rest is confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:24 AM
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It says it in the title. Only if you don't know how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:19 AM
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Ok lets see who is open to a conversation on the street: -everybody looking at their phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:47 AM
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Only approach in places like clubs, or in school. Stores and in the street, no. First, street is not a place to bother people. I may be walking somewhere important, or in a rush. Second , you will find videos of women threatening to call the cops on guys that were approaching them kn the street. PUAs were kicked from a mall for trying to pick up women there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:49 PM
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I always posted the second graph when people say "there is much more men than women on OLD" Depends on where you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:43 PM
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There is no difference, they are synonyms. Both words can be used to refer to the same thing. like girl and lass Provocative clothing = sexy clothing. Now, since she is the one that asked for the definition, she is the one that needs to elaborate upon it and answer OPs question, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:32 PM
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No, synonym is synonym. "She wore a very provocative dress" makes no mention of behavior. Argue with the dictionary, language matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:05 PM
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Yeah, I think "hey dude, I'm not interested in seeing your batman underwear"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:36 AM
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/thesaurus/provocative She wore a very provocative dress. Synonyms Sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:31 AM
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I guess fashion is very regional. Here where I live I've never seen girls using that outside of school. Looks are mostly corporate clothing, and for loose settings, shorts, even if it's cold as fuck. Then for special occasions, dresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:24 AM
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Shorts that show part of the butt cheeks is not provocative? Micro shirts? This is used all the time. Baggy clothin is men's fashion trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:34 AM
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They're Synonyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 10:30 AM
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Accentuate is an understatement. Nowadays you can see half of the ass of the girls when you walk around. This catches the attention of even people that don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:46 AM
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Manu women consider men with certain types of clothing sexy. The opposite also exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:43 AM
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People that dress like that are looking for attention. In an Instagram post, any attention is good. In the street, most isn't. Maybe they want to just show off,maybe they want a select people to notice them and go after. Think about a job interview. Everybody sees it, and it's good that the maximun amount of people see it, only a few are qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:40 AM
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Men Dating advice for men : hit the gym lose weight and gain muscle. Also men: gym is for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:31 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1grrcf5/comment/lx8vbkd/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:27 PM
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There is a video of someone asking a girl if they prefer a spontaneous kiss or for the guy to ask first. She sais "spontaneous" , the reported said "always?". Then she said "if you're ugly don't even try something like that"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:59 PM
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Can't know the difference between the women that want to be approached and the women that don't. Just don't approach women in random public spaces. Save it for places where flirting is assumed. Cold approach is rubbish btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:55 PM
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It was just the most subtle insult of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:27 PM
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The wrong place is most places You told me elsewhere that you should approach women in women dominated spaces. That's a big no no that women complain frequently. You then just said "they're lying". You read the room as well as the ones you supposedly know more than.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:18 PM
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Yes the classic " I never meant what I write". See that "you" being written four times, I totally wasn't putting you in a certain group, I was talking about someone else, I know how to communicate! Just a "many" before talking about groups of people is far better communication than writing shit like "communication is subjective" Anyway, for the people that care, no evidence to show that "charisma and confidence" are preferred by most nor is it a very testable strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:15 PM
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What are "the shit" I say? So if a dude says here "women only want Chad". You are going to see this as a nuanced statement? Or like everybody else, you will se many people commenting "women are not a monolith" and "stop with the await" I gave you a counter example of what you said, don't need to get pissed about that. Personality preferences are subjective, and there is no conclusive research (specially by how different people define charisma and confidence) to warrant you any kind of blanket st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:45 AM
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You need to update to the current year. Women are specifically complaining about getting approached in public spaces, mentioning that it's not just because a woman is existing in a public space that she wants to chat, specially with a man. If you feel you impressed a woman by approached, first make sure you simply didn't put her into a hostage negotiation, that made it look like she was actually into it. Save the flirting for places where it's assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:31 AM
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Please, no AWALT when convenient. I followed the "charisma and confidence " route with my wife and she interrupted me mid date telling me to stop because what she liked in me is that I was shy and reserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:27 AM
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And it's bad for everyone. Because the men who otherwise wanted simply to practice yoga, now can't because other men poisoned the well by using it to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:21 AM
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They are not lying, you know why whenever a "woman only" activity appears, women start joining it in droves? Women gyms, women Ubers, women hostels. Do you think it's because women are stupid and want to pay more just to see someone with a vagina? No, it's because they feel safer in these spaces. Many guys that just legit want to practice yoga already feel the tension and how the environment "dies" when they join? Because other guys went there looking for dates and now the well is poisoned. So e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:15 AM
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Don't if they are female dominated spaces. Women have specifically said that these are "safe spaces" for them and they don't want to have this disturbed, specially from a guy wanting to date. Also, any place where social interaction is not assumed is not included in this. I think you've seen the outrage of women because of men hitting on them in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:38 AM
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You're a bit delusional of you think that using smartphones is not something fundamental on this age. I really don't care about the judgement part, I'm just saying that it's false that experience comes with age by itself. The current state of society trends to people dating less and socializing less. You're bound to see gaps showing in social development in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:27 AM
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Wow sure, family and social disapproval (and threat of death) totally does not prevent gay men from embracing their sexuality. We've never seen married man coming out as gay due to being afraid of social repercussions. Women here are completely clueless. I guess it doesn't matter if a father slut shames his daughter because she isn't going to fuck him anyway. No difference. Complete Lack of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:24 AM
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It's not a reflection of anything, because using separated averages to deduce that the average age gap of marriage is close to that average is an invalid reasoning. It's also an invalid reasoning (a straw man) to say that I was arguing that the most common outcome was marriages with large age gaps. You also have a problem with language You said Also, significantly large age gaps were not particularly common even in the past: Now you say. throughout recent history of Western civilization, large a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:14 PM
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You changed the stats, shows a different time period with a different measure and then says get good? Is it so hard to just understand that you used a bad stat that you now isn't going to be able to use to demonstrate your previous point because the time period is not the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:32 PM
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The perspective is largely irrelevant. What matters is the truth. There is no shortage of old men being surprised that the gold digger is gold digging. Nor women in their mid 30s complaing about being pumped and dumped. I am 22 years younger than my mother yet I have infinitely more experience with technology than her. Even 10 year old kids deal better with smartphones than her. Why? Because she has little experience with technology and learning these things while older is harder. Another thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:28 PM
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I'm only telling you that more age doesn't imply more experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:06 PM
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The authors of English Population History from Family Reconstitution, 1530-1837 give the average ages of marriage at this time as about 25 years for men and 23.5 years for women. Courtship and marriage were expected to happen early in adulthood, as the average and ideal adult of either gender was securely married and procreating. That stat doesn't say the age gap was low. Consider the groups Male: 30, 30, 15 Female: 18,18, 35 Average male age: 25. Female: 23.5 The two 30 year olds marry the 18 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:02 PM
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Experience only matters if you had experience with that thing. A STEM nerd who spend his 20s studying will have no idea how to spot some young women wanting to use him for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:38 PM
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Why is it an insecurity? Because men are born with paranoia about not fucking chicks or is it because this insecurity was born out of social prejudice? If you think height is a mere insecurity I just advise you to leave the room because you are totally clueless. Also, question for you. If a POS is black, is it okay to call them... Certain slurs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:15 PM

Read the goddamn link. The entirety of it. There is a clear definition of sex tourism and how every single group of people practices it. Women also do it, in multiple places of africa. For the reasons of a certain stereotype that you may also know. In any case, not discussing anymore, you're too hellbent on denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:27 PM
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lmao and top kek. Attractive people are seen as more intelligent. https://www.wired.com/story/prettier-people-more-intelligent/ Not only that but every single trait of attractive people are boosted by the halo effect. You live in your own bubble, thinking everybody has it easier than you, even the people who can literally be killed by simply existing. That are barred from donating blood because the sex you do causes diseases and because you're too promiscuous. Any non straight person faces far m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:23 PM
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All of those things prevent gay people assuming they're gay, therefore, preventing them from being promiscuous. There are more explicit things such as not being able to donate blood in some countries, which is a much worse form of slut shaming. Every non straight person is subject to getting sexually shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:12 PM

Thus, gay men go abroad for sex. Both straigh and gay sex tourists care about activities, straight and gay men during sex tourism trips will attend lots of parties, use lots of alcohol and drugs, visit saunas... You are just pulling everything out of yours despite evidence being in your face that sex tourism is practiced by both gay and straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:50 PM
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Woman, for fucks sake, gay people have more difficulty simply existing, they face prejudice by simply stating that they're gay, let alone having sex with one another. To be promiscuous as a gay person REQUIRES you to be out of the closet. Something gay people HAVE A HARD TIME DOING because they can face prejudice, be disowed by their families, abandoned by friends, be socially isolated or DIE. If you are not conisdered a functioning human being and faces repercussions for your existence, its OBV…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:29 PM

You could just simply do a quick google https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_tourism#Gay_sex_tourism Why would someone from the US go to beaches in the Maldives if there are beaches in Miami?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:19 PM
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Gay man face criticism for existing, they face criticism for having sex but not being promiscuous, they face criticism for being promiscuous (spreading aids anyone?). They get disowed by parents, kicked out of home, lose friends... They also die for merely existing. Do you seriously think that these issues are in any order of magnitude comparable to slut shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:14 PM
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I wonder why you can't simply write "c0pe" as a response here but somehow obvious troll threads go through?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:08 PM
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Such as their mothers, fathers, friends, rest of the family, totally no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:02 PM
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Guess homophobia doesn't exist Guess gay people doesn't face prejudice for merely existing, let alone having sex with each other. The complete lack of awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:00 PM
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Marx missed so hard that Neo-Marxists and modern left wing groups basically scraped the whole method of dialetical materialism just to justify what capitalism hasn't fallen (superstructure determines the base not the other way around, lol), focusing on cultural hegemony instead of economy and labor. (Which is all just a cop out for a failed theory)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:38 PM
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Make no mistake, attracting a woman mainly has to do with things outside of your natural looks. Incorrect, both men and women exhibit their first criteria for a succesful date as physical attractiveness. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date was physical attractiveness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5640931_Sex_Differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:12 PM
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What? Do you think one guy that is attractive needs to succeed in capitalism or patriarchy to get laid? These guys have money thrown at them. There is a story on a podcast of a well off women who had sex on the trunk of an old car because the dude was hot but didn't have his own place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:06 AM
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"most species" What are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:48 AM
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Since you said you were arguing with "the men" of the sub that said beta was bad, you're arguing against a broad audience using a definition that applies to only part of them, redpillers. This is why you have so many people complaining about the definition here. You should have framed the argument specifically for redpill men, instead, you put everybody on the same basket and used a definition they may not use.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:33 PM
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It's not scientific, I was just arguing with you that if you were to use the same definition that exist for some species of animals to apply to humans, it would be the one I quoted. You used "current pill discussion" in your opening and then switched to RP only. I just pointed out that the "men of this sub" may subscribe to a definition of beta that is not the red pill one, as per you wrote here I am using these terms alpha and beta to argue against the men around the sub who like saying being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:11 PM
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Not all species of animals have an alpha beta dynamic. But the concept exists and it can be applied to any animal if you'd like. You just need far more effort to make it become scientific >The only definitions of alpha/beta that matter are the ones from red pill There are pills that are not red. And discussion about the pills does not necessarily needs to abide to any pill terminology. You could be more specific on saying in the title that you only want to talk about the RP definition instead of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:41 PM
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Not proven? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy Red pill definition of alpha and beta are more or less nonsensical. The alpha there is alike to a psychopath. Which has little parallel even with biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:09 PM
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A king would not be an alpha without high mating success. There is no point for an alpha male to be an alpha if this does not improve his chances to reproduce .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:00 PM
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If you define it based on biology(what actually matters in defining alpha/beta): Alpha traits are those that provide the man with high mating success and social status. Having a handsome face is this an alpha trait. A pretty boy is an alpha, an ogre that lifts 150kg is not an alpha, despite the fact that one is seen as more masculine. Having a lot of money is not a beta trait, since money is correlated with higher mating success. Though social status depends on how you gain it. Being "controllin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:50 PM
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You just destroyed the definition of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:30 AM
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Gene Simmons makeup was not to make him handsome. It's quite clear that gene Simmons would not have slept with 4000 women if he wasn't a very successful rockstar. You can see plenty of men with similar looks as him, playing guitar, without it. Status isn't what OP suggest, but it obviously matters. People would not buy luxury brands if it did not. Nor would they but what is trending.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:28 AM
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Status is perceived social value. If you got a Louis Vuitton purse, making an exact replica of it but without the brand won't give you status. Looks and money are a different thing. They can be associated with status, but aren't the same thing. You can be rich without status(fairly easily) and handsome without status(harder, but still happens)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:23 AM
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I think you should make a Google before posting. Data shows men are the most likely to remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:55 AM

Saw it elsewhere. The 4B movement isn't to stop having sex with men. It's just another excuse wives will use to not have sex with their husbands(who voted for Harris)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:30 AM
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Have you never heard the very popular trope "Women are never wrong?" even women buy into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:42 PM
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"Women are never wrong" is a trope for married people for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:41 PM
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I had a brainfart, i read "Online people" and put "people" on my reply. I meant "Men that have lots of casual sex = attractive, rich or with status" The dynamics of sex for women is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:17 PM

I'm not debunking anything, i was asking a question: Given some statistic that a certain group commits more crimes than the others, is it bigotry to MANIFEST that you consider these people as potential criminals? Being wary hardly matters because Women will be wary of men regardless of statistics, instead based on reputation and experience White people will be wary of black people based on reputation and experience (And yes, that happens, white people don't admit it, but every black person knows…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:16 PM
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She is and is proud of it, because Maybe theyll produce less of you and earth will turn green again :) Truly one based misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:14 PM

I don't have to do anything to portray you as crazy, you are crazy. I specifically said that WHITE SUPREMACIST DOG WHISTLE use that statistic to justify their beliefs, that touched such a massive nerve that you decided to show your true misandric face for no reason. Good job! Cope and seethe, lady. I'm enjoying the free rent on your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:11 PM
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lol, i just exposed how statistical thinking can be used for bigotry and you lashed out massively as if i was agreeing with it AHAHAHAHAHAH. I wasn't even trying to expose you but i did accidentally. You didn't answer my question, can i consider women potential baby killers or not? Is this misogyny? Find another specific statistic to rave about while scrolling past the 30 statistics males dominate so you can continue pretending you aren’t who you know you are True, i confess when i see a person …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:01 PM
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Then why say "Thats typically..."?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:54 PM
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Well it doesn't just limit itself to online. IRL they will say the same thing but with the caveat that "We're not talking about you/my family members" My wife's friends were talking to each other and they told a story about a guy who abandoned his pregnant wife, then one of them said "Men are despicable!!!!!!!... Not you though, you're exception" I've heard them say every one of the opinions i listed above (except the potential rapists) but with the aditional caveat of "You/my family members are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:53 PM
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You didn't specify what you meant by mainstream. My social circle and the general masculine perception of the time was that everybody knew that "women like money". Since it was a common opinion among men, i say it was mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:48 PM
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I'm undecided on this. Women commit almost all of neonaticide(killing newborn baby) and commit more infanticide than men https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonaticide Is it fine for a man to consider the majority of women as "Potential baby killers?" There is also a certain white supremacist dog whistle that uses the same statistical argument, most of the crime is commited by ... but they only make up for ... % of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:42 PM
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Well i can find examples from this website itself, see the replies of my comment https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1gf9w5h/comment/luis4ga/ One woman says that a guy having casual sex with a woman offering nothing is return is akin to giving away free money to someone. The other says sex is never free to women so its reasonable for them to ask for something in return. So your experience is not conclusive data. Also this phrase is very common in situationships, where the women act…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:39 PM
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TV, magazines? No, the only TV shows I heard giving this advice were comedy ones. I come from a poor background. I only had a TV in my house with 7 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:57 AM
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Misandry and misogyny are poorly defined terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:20 AM
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Where I live, judges are all but immune to making illegal or unhetical decisions. So there are always stories from the prenup being accepted in full to being rejected in full, even when they should not. Usually they are partially accepted, because it's almost always the case that family law and civil law will diverge in some point. With family law prevailing. It's still the best choice if you want to marry with some sort of protection. If you want to protect your assets with 100% guarantee, only…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:14 AM
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This is hard to answer. Because I know MANY women who have routinely post stuff slandering men, calling them pigs, potential rapists, violent, all of them cheat but will sleep with one at night. Pretty much all women I know will possess at least one of the above opinions, specially the last. Is this misandry? Or just someone that agrees with some misandric ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:48 AM
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Women themselves claim to be used for sex "He just used me for sex" "He wants me to give away sex for free" "I'm in a situationship" Add that to: wives only accepting sex with their husbands if they give something else in return Naive to think all women are sex positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:43 AM
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The reason is: just because women don't want casual sex with you, doesn't mean they don't want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:39 AM
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I also grew up but I heard "women don't like men, they like money" from the male references I had all the time. Sure they did not say this in front of women, but they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:28 AM
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We aren't talking about the majority of men, but red pillers. If you disagree with Trump's core ideas, you're not a trumpist, merely a sympathizer. I didn't answer because there is no red pill for women. And I don't see how this is relevant. Women have an army of men ready for them at any moment, due to supply and demand, women can afford to be picky. Also, women are less bothered by being single. They have the advantage on the current sexual market, so they are not chasing unicorns. Women can h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:19 AM
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What is or is not a mistake is irrelevant, because the RP claims that by understanding female nature, a man can "improve himself" in a away that will cause women to lust for him. That way he can get casual sex If you disagree with that, you can create your own different pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:48 PM
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The reality of it doesn't matter(Both the Quran and RP are nonsense anyway), what i'm talking about is difference between theory and practice. Islam is peaceful in theory, not in practice, RP is amoral in theory, not in pratice. Your purist view of the RP is in actually not the "true" RP but another version of it, like the Tradcon and Liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:45 PM
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This seems like a dismissive argument akin to those who deny the violence of Islam "it is not written in the Quran" Sure, the "perfect theory" of the RP is "amoral" but the practice isn't. The practitioners aren't, the gurus aren't. They just start seeing morality through the lens of the RP. RP would not talk about "enjoying the decay" if it thought that the current situation is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:08 PM
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Rules of the sub disavow ranting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:16 PM
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At its essence, the redpill is the realization that men and women are biologically different. That we are sexually attracted to fairly universal patterns of behavior and characteristics across cultures This is far too vague, biology recognizes the differences of men and women, is biology RP? Of course not. RP is about methods of picking up women on the current state of society. It is not removed from it. RP guys are not "fine" with the situation, and see it as unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:13 PM
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RP specifically emphasises pumping and dumping, so men going into RP are seeking that. At least before they find a "trad" wife to marry (Tradcon position)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:10 PM
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What the fuck, I'm not that old but I always had this as a kid. I'm just a millennial, did people just got sucked into phone screens that fast?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:14 PM
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Astrology has to work for somebody otherwise people wouldn't keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:12 PM
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People that have lots of casual sex = attractive, rich or with status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:09 PM
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The problem of RP isn't it's morality, the problem is that it doesn't work. The black pillers and incels of today, were the Red pillers and PUAS of yesterday. What should men follow? Reality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:42 PM
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In my time everybody did. "Blue pill" was just the vanilla advice that always existed. Not that it was effective, but talked about, yes. Seems that father's don't care about this anymore, given the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:26 PM
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They want something that doesn't exist. And will keep chasing unicorns to refuse accepting themselves. The fairy tale land of grifters is already set: BP: just have personality, bro RP: just act alpha and hold frame, bro. Everybody knows this is a fraud, and if men want this instead of the truth, nobody owes them an alternative. They are a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:22 PM
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A lot of RP guys just want to live like Charlie sheen, pumping and dumping like no tomorrow. There is no answer to that, RP or otherwise, no secret formula or "knowledge" It's just looks, status or money. RP nor BP have any answer besides what everybody already knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:18 PM
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I mean, now we're walking into fantasy land. Everybody knows how a guy can have lots of casual sex Looks,status or money(prostitution or sugar dating) Waiting for "the secret" to pump and dump chicks is just failure to accept your condition, coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:15 PM
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This advice is just like saying "follow your dreams and work hard" to a person wanting to become rich. Vague as fuck and employing the just world fallacy. Lots of people are just plain unnatractive by themselves. Until this person complains, then they are called incels. "Be yourself" is not dating advice, more like an advice for someone to make peace with the fact that they can't get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:41 AM
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Tradcon RP makes RP not be amoral. And it never was amoral, maybe to some purists, it was always built upon a resentment over the unfairness of contemporary dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:35 AM
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A bit too off topic no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:33 AM

Ogres being masculinity is a cultural perception, not a biological one though. Robert pattinson is more masculine than some body builders. Masculity that matters to women are genetic traits that indicate sexual dimorphism, having giant muscles isn't that. Hollow cheeks, strong jawlines, Wide shoulders, tall, low body fat with good muscle definition = Genetic dimorphic traits. Volume of muscles = Acquired trait <image> The muscular body is certainly more masculine, but even as male aesthethics, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:22 PM

We do have, but men have a bell curve opinion about women. Most are are average, a minority is ugly and beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:11 PM

FemDom aficionado
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:08 PM

Never read any book specifically about that and nothing else, its usually one topic from books about sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:06 PM

It doesn't matter on being CAPABLE, if you don't do, it doesn't matter. Most people are CAPABLE of playing piano, playing piano is still something uncommon. "I want a man that KNOWS and DOES fix things" =/= "I want a man who can LEARN how to fix things"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:02 PM

Any book that talks about natural/sexual selection works. You can start with the wiki on sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:00 PM

He explicitly says that the blackpill(only looks matter) is only valid for women, this is not only false, but delulu. Very few people will say they have high standards. I too agree that looks are the most important (but disagree with the BP that says they're the only). And the situation on the market is mostly because guys aren't getting anything. In terms of having sex, men have low standards, but for commiting and marrying, they have higher standards. Hence why women complain about being "stri…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:59 PM

No, he is bullshitting, the sexy son hyphotesis is the one that shows females will breed with males that have genes that are correlated with more breeding, even if these traits reduce biological fitness (such as peacock tails)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:18 PM

Deliberately spreading misinformation? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:16 PM

Thats not it. What you're describing is the "dual mating strategy" The sexy son hyphotesis is that females will gravitate to reproducing with attractive males even if the considered attractive traits cause inferior biological fitness, such as, for example peacock tails. The women that choose not to mate with the more attractive males will reproduce less since their sons will be considered less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:13 PM

>Breeding fetish >Breeding fetish Porn rotten brain. Also, finding fat people unattractive is a preety gender neutral thing which furthermore reduces the ooga booga biologically programmed point. Nice conclusion, if something is gender neutral, then it isn't biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:11 PM

We aren't attracted to deformed faces, nor disease ridden bodies. Babies spend 80% of their time looking at faces that are considered CULTURALLY attractive. Research has come and gone and people converge what they find attractive, with different levels of tolerances and weights of what is most important. More importantly, these research is not simply asking, they monitor brain activity and arousal. See this lecture https://youtu.be/iOHdZKDldIg?si=rvGM8qzNrE4vSFP8&t=1562 Symmetric faces, V shape …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:09 PM

Delulu, plenty of men don't know how to fix things, since those are learned traits, men who are very lazy and weren't taught how to fix and cook, and even if they can learn, it doesn't mean that they want to, nor that people will simply wait for them to learn when there are others that already know. If a guy doesn't like to fix things, he won't do. And will be considered "less masculine" or whatever fits the bill of the person saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:51 PM

No, I'm black-pilled alright. But my belief in the black-pill only applies to women. I fully believe men are more moral, kind, and sympathetic. Just because you have high standards doesn't mean that we do. Hilarious! Change your flair to "Woman hating bluepiller" because thats what you are. Guy can't even understand the own ideologies he buys. Black pill is the belief that genetic looks characteristics is what matters in human attraction. If you think ONLY women care about genetics, then what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:49 PM

You claim to be black pilled but gives the most BS bluepilled take that you love anyone with a good "personality" is laughable. You don't even know your own pill enough. I don't know why would you hate women when they give the exact same standards as you do, saying that it's personality that matters. Men and women they want attractive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:22 PM

An obese woman will have both a big ass and big boobs. Is she attractive? No, because it's the balance between shape and size that matters. More fat on boobs is good, but if it comes with fat on the face, arms and belly, it's bad . Big boobs and ass on hourglass = good. Big boobs and ass on obese body shape = bad. An obese woman with big ass and big boobs will look unnatractive despite these. Because body shape and fat distribution is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:19 PM

Small ass or boobs aren't exactly genetic. Body shape is (it is what is being talked about in the OP)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:03 PM

Literally everybody can know how to cook, not everybody likes to cook or does it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:21 PM

"Sexy son hypothesis" is the name of a sexual selection hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:20 PM

Which is why drama has obese troubled guys and not handsome guys. Twilight and 50 shades of grey have their common ugly and troubled love interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:19 PM

Actors often have masculine bodies. Think of all the thirst traps Jason momoa, henry cavill, Thor, Wolverine, even the Twilight guy has a masculine body. Are they particularly dominant, violent? Also, the attraction comes from instinct, males with these body types reproduced more, which makes their genes more desirable for women to reproduce with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:18 PM

Why is this a problem? Are you particularly attracted to women with wide shoulders, broad waist, thin hips?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:14 PM
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Lmao Sure. Academia and feminist studies is dominated by neolibs ( who are just classical libs reworked) and not a variety of modern left wing groups. Simone de Beauvoir was peak neoliberal thought and no Marxism whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 10:00 AM
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Critical theorist with neo Marxist influences. Very clear difference between Marxist and neo Marxist. Third wave feminism(modern) is neo Marxist/critical theorist. All those things about Frankfurt school and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:41 AM
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Never daid otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 09:39 AM
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Your whole problem is assuming they are getting exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:34 PM
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Women from a poorer country = marginalized group that gets predated. nice logic. Women can do whatever they want no matter how any individual feels about it, but A classic!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:41 PM
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Wow, based.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:42 PM
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Your own "expert" mentioned how Feminism analyzes social problems from critical theory as well as neo marxism. I mean, bro, i know you can't think for yourself, but come on. . Critical feminism, which often analyzes power and oppression through a neo-Marxist lens, is prominent in academic circles. However, this influence in academia does not necessarily represent the broader feminist movement, which is more ideologically diverse. This is exactly what i said to you. Of course the "broader feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:40 PM
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what is being said is of the women who voted for Trump, 37% were of the ages of 18-29 Are you not embarrassed? Where the fuck did you see this? They were comparing the share of 18-29 women who voted Harris vs trump. <image> Out of all women 18-29, 61% votes for harris, 37% for trump. Seriously, your math makes no sense. Lets see the flipside. You say 16.65% of 18-29 voted red, lets see how much voted blue 53% of women voted Blue, 61% of this 53% is of 18-29. Meaning 32.33 of 18-29 women voted bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:33 PM
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Trump voter?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:00 PM
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Show us exactly the marriage contract of passaport bros buying foreign women. "Women can do whatever they want, except when I disagree with it"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:54 PM
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I really don't see how the mods just let any troll post go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:51 PM
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You IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:48 PM
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I didn't say Carole was a Marxist. Did you read what I wrote? I said that modern feminists are Neo Marxists and critical theorists. Carole specifically is a critical theorist with Nei marxist influences You wouldn't need to ask for chat got if you simply read what I write. Very few people are Marxists nowadays, the left evolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:30 PM
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Google Carole pateman. I'll help. Look for "the sexual contract" You didn't even do that. No argument, just appeal to ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:49 PM
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Everybody is shallow. The Halo effect is not present in only part of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:46 PM
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Modern feminism is neo Marxist. It's left. See Carole Pateman. It's the same discourse. The left veered away from the classic worker problems due to a paradigm shift. They disagree with Marx that changing the economy will bring the revolution because capitalism prevents it. Then they need to deal with the social structures and change them first, then they change the economy. It's also easier for left wing discourse to be digested by the masses when it does not tackle their privileged position up…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:27 PM
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Nonsense. Left wing needs more support from the working class. Ironically because what we understand as left wing now started as the side that appealed to the working class the most. Marx is probably looking at them like " WTF are you doooooing , where is das Proletariat? Warum you care about men slicing their penises to become women?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:57 AM
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copes Then not everything is lost for incels!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:39 AM
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Romantically I think it's close to 50/50 on dominant wives/husband's. Sexually is what leans heavily to male Dom. I'd say 90/10
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:32 AM
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This study suggests that female dominant/male submissive partnerings have higher numbers of children and thus could be considered a mating strategy in the same way that classic maledom relationships are. You're missing two things here. Being dominant in the relationship doesn't imply being dominant in bed. When you see women talking about how they prefer to be dominated in bed, it doesn't imply that they also want to be dominated in the relationship overall. "Women are never wrong" and "happy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:23 AM
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Lol. 37% of women ages 18-29 voted Trump. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls Talk about delusion >Most [desirable] women are in fact with progressives Citation needed, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:06 AM
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And the birth rates are still falling. So it's not that simple to raise birthrates, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:44 AM

These women talk as if they were having sex with any man that messaged her. Even before trump got elected the first time, women avoided most men due to safety concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:37 AM
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Women here on Reddit have said that they are doing it for revenge, not because they are scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:36 AM
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Yes i totally believe that there is no possible behavior that is creepy. Me and everybody on this sub agrees. Totally people here agree that there are no creepy behavior I walk up to women and call them whores on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:46 PM
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They can be emotionally available to other things (such as when you show frustration) but not when you show weakness and insecurity. Its also not simply dismissing, but losing attraction/becoming cold over it. If you want to call this likewise emotional unavailability, then it simply means that the complaint is "Women are emotionally unavailable" does that make it any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:18 PM
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Yeah, much like it doesn't occur to you that "emotionally unavailable women are repulsed by vulnerability" instead of "women find vulnerability to be an ick". Men that say "all women dislike vulnerability" are likewise wrong. What i'm saying is: Totally normal women can be icked by vulnerability. And whats being refused to accept. 20-25% at any given moment, around 50% will have some trouble over a lifetime. "At any given moment", people that take pills for anxiety aren't BPD nor are they needy …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:30 PM

No. Your question is similar to the commonly raised point "If no laws existed, would everyone do crime?" the answer is no, while some people would be inclined to commit more crime and crime rate would definitely rise, humans would form communities to protect themselves and enforce their own made up rules, these people would still think doing crime is bad even if they get away with it. Animals with social structures all have rules to deal with deviants and members that disrupt the order
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:19 AM

Nothing to do with men's issues, everything to do with economy, immigration. Men have always voted more republican, and despite the narratives, its older men who vote more for trump, younger ones vote kamala more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:07 AM
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Well to me its extreme to compare sex with picnics, you do you. If the analogy sticks, then you would be ok with "Thats cool" and then goes to have sex with her friends? The argument is simply that "its not a big deal to refuse to do something to your current SO when he wants it, but you did to your ex" It would sound odd to everyone in a new relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:04 AM
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I don't live in the us so Idc about US laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:02 AM
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Rationally dissected, lol, you think too high of yourself. Birth control by nature of what it is.. A method to prevent birth, is informed consent that neither party wants a child. How can you possibly believe that consenting to sex where both parties are actively trying to PREVENT conception. means one party has to be responsible if conception occurs and the other party decides they want it..If you lend me your car there's a chance 2% I steal it. Are you consenting to the theft by lending me the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:55 AM
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Mentally ill people and people with untreated traumas are a minority of the population. Yet it doesn't occur to these complainers that it is "mentally ill men use you as therapists" but instead it is "men will use you as therapists" I find it incredibly unlikely that these women are just rolling on a streak of mentally ill men as much as those guys who complain that women have low libido are rolling on a streak of frigid women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:31 AM

<image> 37%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:28 PM

I don't think you understood, he's mocking the term "BIPOC"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:27 PM

we're about to literally be in a handmaid's tale Holy shit the US election results never fail to deliver
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:05 PM

Lady, i voted for harris, i helped you, can you help me? Black lives matter, and the black matter in my pants is ALIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:55 PM
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This is the whole point of disagreeing with the original poster, lol. You don't do it because you like your new partner less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:48 PM

Op is a black man wanting to score more points with the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:46 PM
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The whole point is the current one wants something, gets denied, but discovers the person gave the same to an ex. This makes the situation more upsetting. Its quite obvious that a guy that doesn't say you're beautiful when you wanted him to say it, but he did the same with his ex, that he doesn't like you as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:44 PM
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The first person on this chain said women should hide this stuff from the boyfriends, as if it was wrong for them to ask this in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:05 PM
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So the likewise romance-denying person is not entitled to her partner staying. Why is only the girl that wants romance/man that wants anal the bad person here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:52 PM
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She can leave, but it is not entitlement at all for the girl to be upset and leave based on the fact that he won't do romance with her, but did with her ex. And it would not be bad for her to become upset if the man hides it from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:42 PM
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So trump gained votes from almost all classes of men and women, but the election result is due to a divide between men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:25 PM
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Trump winning over men of color did nothing Since black men voted ovewhelmingly for Harris anyway. What does that +2 in black women mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:24 PM
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I don't see the relation. Latin america mostly outlaws abortion, yet women aren't volcels there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:13 PM
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I don't like elon musk. Electric cars are BS. You were the one who had to make a comment of how much you dislike him (and projecting this on every women). Hide the salt more, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:53 PM
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I guess he also dried the vagina of the google's cofounder(who has likewise money) wife that he banged. Elon musk is 188cm , that alone qualifies him for sex with a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:52 PM
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The amount of seethe is transpiring through the screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:48 PM
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Holy shit. Guy lives with victoria secret models.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:45 PM
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No, people can just be unnatractive and normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:43 PM
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I think very old people that still vote are mostly more politically active and educated, which tends to shift democrat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:42 PM
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Black men voted majority for Harris <image> Women voted more for biden than for harris. I really don't see this "men vs women" narrative when the current candidate has had less votes from both sexes. Except when talking about non white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:41 PM
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I don't see how this is representative of anything. Women in general are voting less for harris than for biden, what does that mean? Vast majority of black men voted for harris.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:27 PM
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And why is that cause "misandry" and not "shitty candidate"? I think young people care more about the fact that they can't buy a house than tinder dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:26 PM
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<image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:21 PM
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Just a weak candidate. The men vs women narrative is bunk. Non white men voted mostly kamala, with black men holding a huge majority on voting kamala.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:17 PM
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Didn't know melania accounted from 3 women. You're just saying your opinion as if it was true. You dislike the guy, ok, that doesn't mean every woman does. You guys love to AWALT when convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:15 PM
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Guy has kids with 3 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:12 PM
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Guys stop capping. Younger generations of men are still more likely to vote harris. The usual suspects, 30-64 people, are the ones who are voting trump more <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:10 PM
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Massive conjecture, 2020 wasn't much different at all than now, and men far more for biden anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:05 PM
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Senior citizens = only people 65+. People 30-64 vote for trump on the majority. The older the men, more likely to vote trump <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:02 PM
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Older men (the ones that actually have women) are more likely to vote for trump anyway. Conservative values will trump "men's issues" most men themselves don't give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:53 PM
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I want to know how many of these will actually do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:50 PM
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White women always voted for trump. The female vs male doesn't exist. It's white people vs rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:48 PM
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Bro stop smoking. Gen Z men still voted more for Kamala than trump 49-47 in her favor. The bulk of trump's votes came, as always, from older people. Trump has overall even less votes this year than 2020.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:42 PM
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I'm not remotely close to saying AWALT. All I'm pointing is the fact that no man ever thinks they're being "used as therapists" when it's a basic prerequisite to males to listen to your wife venting on anything she wants because "they need it" even HOW we need to behave relative to this venting, so much so it's ingrained in popular culture. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7hFAv8z8xmw&pp=ygUYZW1wYXRoeSB3aXRoIHBoaWwgZHVucGh5 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg&pp=ygUXaXQncyBub3QgYWJvdXQgdGhlIG…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:35 PM
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55% of 18-29 age groups voted for Kamala. 49% voted for Kamala vs 47 for trump in ages 18-29 30-44 is 51-45 in favour of trump 45-64 59-40 This is just nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:59 PM
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This is just another way of saying "good women don't leave you for this". And the problem, per her own writing, is that men CHOSE emotionally unavailable women, their fault. Which is just "just world fallacy" nonsense. And that regular women possess no flaws regarding this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:55 PM
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18-29 still largely voted for Kamala. Gen Z starts the latest at 2000. Most people of 18-29 are gen z.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:51 PM
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What are you smoking. All the married "chads" with mid-high income are more likely to vote trump than single men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:37 PM
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White women always voted more for trump
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:27 PM
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You're in need of another type of pills rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:26 PM
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Holy shit US elections cause too much salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:23 PM
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The old man is probably bald too. Game recognizes game
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:18 PM
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Not even close. Look at Latin America and see how many convicted felons are elected with a far bigger margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:18 PM
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No they are based. Lie so the other side thinks they will win and then they have a mental breakdown not knowing why.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:15 PM
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SKILL ISSUE
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:14 PM
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How delusion. Every woman ever would simply say that the man loves his ex more. It's not about staying, but interest. Would you ever call a woman entitled if she left the guy because he did those things with his ex and doesn't want with her? Would you ever be ok with the guy not saying this? Instead saying that he simply doesn't like doing this kind of stuff, and then later find out he used to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:42 PM
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and when did I support this double standard? Since the beginning i'm saying promiscuous people are bad partners not just women. Don't drag me to your strawmans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:40 PM
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Let a human cope. Who's gonna carry the copes? Someone has to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:29 PM
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Angry incels are negligible on the grand scheme of things. Married mid to high income men are way more likely to vote trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:20 PM
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Biden would lose but with dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:19 PM
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Classical liberals aren't right lol. They were PART OF THE LEFT when the terms came to be at the time. Left meaning socialist/communist or sympathizers is a recent development. In the current political landscape, a classical liberal would land center-right. I never said that dems are left wing. They are centrists, with some hovering to the left social wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:12 PM
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America idk but the French population was entertained with previous presidents escapades.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:09 PM
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Well I never said trump will help. O just said that social issues don't imply lack of pussy access alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:05 PM
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Instead let that solid paper have sex with it instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:02 PM
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Don't look percentage of white women voting for trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:55 PM
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Kamala Harris realizing women like senile old man more than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:54 PM
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I'm still amazed that senile old man managed to be a better candidate than the person that replaced him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:50 PM
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Brutal catpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:49 PM
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We that don't live in the US can just enjoy the memes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:48 PM
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Bro even senile old man defeated trump. It requires way less effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:47 PM
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What men here face is irrelevant, because nobody is talking specifically about men here, but men in general. Men face issues with Custody and divorce Homelessness and suicide School and college But I hardly think that these are swing reasons for trump winning. Immigration, war and overall demonization of conservative ideas are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:44 PM
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I don't think the guy above implied that "social issues" = only not getting pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:34 PM
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Liberal in itself is already a distorted term. A classical liberal from the books would be considered right wing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:32 PM
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He is definitely maxxing that anti minority stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:30 PM
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Blue pill painted red overdose above.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:28 PM
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America WILL NOT elect a present shorter than 6 ft. GET TALLER WOMEN
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:27 PM
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SKILL ISSUE Even SENILE old man beat trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:22 PM
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Common mate choice copying and preselection W
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:20 PM
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Bro take a look: Trump: loses to senile old man Oof Kamala: loses to the guy that lost to the senile old man, after she REPLACES senile old man. Large OOF
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:18 PM
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It's not different, quite a lot of men that are steady drinkers do not beat up their wives. It's literally the same rationale. It's correlation not causation, alcohol doesn't inherently make you more violent. The promiscuity stats includes men. I'm all in for women not wanting to marry promiscuous men. If you think there's a double standard here, you're not reading properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:16 PM
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Kamala voters initiated stalking purge. All FAKE Kamala voters will have no mercy. Code: If white man Trump voter Elif fat guy with no bitches Trump voter Else Pure hearted angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:12 PM
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It's the ping pong Incels are getting dangerously numerous But men aren't having problems getting dates But the same men are the reason the right is gaining force because of lack of dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:10 PM
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Imagine the dude that asked for advice to them because he couldn't get dates and now they're lashing out against you for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:08 PM
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No need for game, Chad would have slayed with this line. NOTHING MATTERS
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:05 PM
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Now she will be mega suspicious that her echo chamber only has liberal men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:03 PM
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Do you read? But you didn't like it now you're not doing it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:57 AM
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I got Dry and I don't even have a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:51 AM
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Give a warm shoulder to all the progressive hoes crying about the election results. Limited investment opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:50 AM
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Soviet union returns, cold war 2.0 but the US is bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:49 AM
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"A girl boss can't be worse than a senile old man, right?" United States of America: About that...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:46 AM
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Biden: I diffed Trump in my deathbed and he runs through you like a truck that easily? Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:39 AM
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Tell your next girlfriend that you did all that with your Ex: Constantly reassured your love and complimented her appearence Made love letters And elaborated presents Enthusiastically went on multiple travels with her around the word. Gave her relaxing massages But you didn't like it now you're not doing it anymore. Tell me how satisfied she will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:32 AM
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Multiple published research shows that promiscuous people are associated with higher likelyhood of infidelity and divorce. Just like steady alcohol consumption in men is associated with higher rates of domestic violence. Is it wrong for a woman to not want to date a steady drinker based on this, should she ignore everything and only look at the future? Complete nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:23 AM
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Can we make a rule that cuckold posts are automatically removed? My eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:18 AM
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Published research shows that promiscuous people are more likely to cheat and divorce. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513802001496 https://www.athensjournals.gr/social/2017-4-4-3-Pinto.pdf https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability#:~:text=Women%20with%2010%20or%20more,the%20least%20likely%20to%20divorce. So it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:56 AM
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She said either the woman you choose is emotionally stunted or you're using you gf as a therapist. Easy to narrow it down. All in all, it's always the man's fault. To give more detail . When men open up they either Open up to emotionally unavailable women(bad partners) Use their partner as a therapist Therefore, when men open up to good partners, they are using them as therapists. Can you see it now how it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:16 AM
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Yes, the good old men who want emotional support want their partners to be therapists. But women needing to vent about every hair of their body is just emotional support.(with the caveat that they don't want solutions to their problems. )
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:24 PM
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Husband killing wife and the reverse is a milenar enterprise. Men don't need to be RP to kill their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:21 PM
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What violence did the now quarantined RP sub incite? What violence did the now deleted "Incels without hate" incite?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:14 PM
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Ok so your response is that she is just rage baiting for clicks. Sure, everything that you don't want to be true is just rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:07 PM
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In some places of the US, yes. I'm against that, and in the rest of the world such things are not legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:03 PM
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You just said nuh-uh with more words. There is no possible financial abortion against someone that has no financial needs. Is vasectomy abortion prior to conception? Again and again, there is no burden left to society to cover when an abortion happens. When a financial abortion happens, the single parent and society have to cover a gap for 18 years. Nonsense. Having sex while using birth control is informed consent that neither party wants to be a parent, Nonsense again, birth control is as much…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:02 PM
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Please, not a boy,’ I hissed at my sister Harriet. ‘If it’s a boy, I’ll just die. I can only deal with one man in my life... and sometimes that’s one too many.’ Please don’t condemn me. I know very little about boys, coming from a family of all girls, but what I have seen I really haven’t liked. Boys are gross; they attack their siblings with sticks, are obsessed with toilets, casually murder local wildlife and turn into disgusting teenage boys and then boring, selfish men. Do you think this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:38 PM
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Nope, this logic doesn't work. You can't finantially abort someone who has no finantial needs, the child is completely supported by the mother's body. Abotion is the act of ceasing biological support over an embryo/fetus that needs direct acess to a women's body to survive. To say this is equal to finantial abortion, is to say that vasectomy is an abortion that happens prior to fecundation. Finantial abortion is called such because when done there is a finantial gap left by one parent that has t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:09 PM
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Well the government is already super worried about a minority called incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:29 PM
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For much less entire "incels" subs are nuked here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:27 PM
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My view is a bit different, i believe that men just don't really like much each other to begin with, we are much more competitive and have a hard time creating spaces that are for practical benefit for men by men, like women do. Common is the trope that women hate each other, but curiously women are far more likely to stand up for each other and fight for their gender(even when they're worng) than men are. Women will create groups such as "Are we dating the same guy" To discover fuckboys messing…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:52 PM
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The gaslighting comes from "men's issues are men's fault". It doesn't matter if someone means it or not. If you call someone ugly, whether tou truly believe they are or not, it's hurtful not because of the inner perception of the person, but because ugly people have less value to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:08 PM
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And I bet a lot of guys would love a woman to ignore a man's initial rejection so he can be promiscuous and "make mistakes" coming back to the "good girl arms" after he "wakes up". Both of those situations are bad for the person being settled with. It's not women or men, getting with people that want you solely as a safety net for their "past mistakes" is getting used by someone who don't love you. Beta buxx and the situation OP is describing that "shy girl wins" are both bad for the "winner" A …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:05 PM
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A woman that rejects you and "has her fun" young and then comes back to you wanting to marry in exchange for money and security never liked you. That's what BB means The counterpart of this is the Madonna whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:01 PM
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She is 34, will shs finally get noticed at 50? See the next episode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:57 AM
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They are settling for the BB because they could not get the man they wanted. And he constantly will have to compensate for this for not being the person the woman wanfed in the first Place Being settled for is bad. With the AF, the woman will have sex, intimacy, provide attention and even sometimes money, all for free. The BB has to pay to get intimacy, sex and attention, and has to have a slew of additional qualities to keep the woman around to compensate for lack of attraction. One has a clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:53 AM
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Men themselves say that sex with women and being desired by women is important to their feelings of self worth and self esteem. It would be hurtful to a lot of men to be told nobody finds them sexually attractive even nobody else cares about their n-count itself. It is the self perception of being sexually attractive that is being attacked with the insult, not their perception by others as being a stud. That's nonsense, right up to the level that women only care so much about being called fat be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:51 AM
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Lots of talk, no substance. You are just spending your time ignoring the women here who very much calls your bullshit saying that this, just like the women's side of the fantasy, is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:26 PM
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They do tho, its the whole point why getting settled for is bad.(and in the case of the BB, having to pay for it, lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:21 PM

Schizoing with blackpill call outs because you know its the exact same shit. Just the good old fantasy that the bullied ones will be exalted once they get older, the pretty girls will give up on the jocks, the nice guys will give up on the popular girls. Fantasy, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:17 PM
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Please don't fill this already BS ridden space with more Bullshit, namely mbti.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:12 PM
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You and the other 15 women he tried to date. At some point the bullshit is just evident. And his supposed "qualities" as a good partner are irrelevant. No male or female gaslighting allowed. Say no to drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:09 PM
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For me, the idea of a dating a shy, homebody woman who just likes reading, crocheting, drinking tea and looking out at the rain sighing sounds really boring. Literally me and my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:07 PM
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You're just giving the same excuse women do when a man is jaded with relationships. Its gaslighting to mean its always the "good person's" fault for not choosing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:03 PM
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You're the one regurgitating typical red pill delusions that get posted on recent manosphere spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:59 PM
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"Did you date a hoe? Hoes are more likely to be bored with decent nice guys"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:58 PM
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I get on the side of the manosphere when they say women virtue signal too much on dating, but then they pull this bullshit. Yeah yeah, buddy, i believe, men are the virtuous gender, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:56 PM
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This kind of nonsense is at the same level as "Women don't care about your looks, its your personality that counts" Or "You're a wonderful man, just not for me, i'm sure you will find a partner for you, you're great! Women would love a caring, attentive and nice man." Just gaslighting from the men's side.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:48 PM
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Would? This would only happen if the non lazy fat social media addicted women would want him. If you get men to improve on a population level, but no change on the women's quality, the only thing that will happen is sharper competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:42 PM
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Depends, if i rejected them to go to mate with a more attractive person, yes i'm an eugenicist, otherwise, no. Eugenics require active attempts at improving the gene pool. Someone who doesn't want kids, for example, isn't an eugenicist by definition. I'm not upset, just saying that eugenics is not only evil dudes on a laboratory messing with the genome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:37 PM
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What you think is irrelevant, the population trend of women's mate preferences makes muscularity not be a consistent desirable trait like Face, height and money, for example. https://www.psypost.org/interactions-between-height-and-shoulder%e2%80%91to%e2%80%91hip-ratio-influence-womens-perceptions-of-mens-attractiveness-and-masculinity/ More muscles don't make short men more attractive. The effect of attractiveness for tall men is very small. Another problem with muscularity is that many men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:35 PM
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Interested? No, since i'm not ugly myself. Do you think that it somehow its not eugenics? I would be an eugenicist if i was able to select mates, but i don't have the power to do that, i'm the selected one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:48 PM
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most men who are lazy gamers do not. Says who? Body/fat positivity is an extreme niche on social media Body positivity is already mainstream. And obese people certainly are not niche. Obese lazy gamer improves to get... Obese lazy lady addicted to social media Hooray self improvement!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:41 PM
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There is little correlation between raw muscularity and perceived genetic fitness because muscularity is, even with a genetic facilitator, an acquired trait. Muscular father does not make muscular son more likely. Therefore, not much selection torwards muscular men happens. Height, Facial attractiveness, Money, status, intelligence, and even personality consistently score above muscularity in terms of selected attractive traits by women. Primitive populations have very few muscular men, the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:36 PM
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Eugenics (/juːˈdʒɛnɪks/ yoo-JEN-iks; from Ancient Greek εύ̃ (eû) 'good, well' and -γενής (genḗs) 'born, come into being, growing/grown')\1]) is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population.\2])\3])\4]) Yes. One example of eugenics is height selection. Taller men are more likely to have kids (because they are selected more by women), thereby increasing average height in humans. Natural and sexual selection are eugenicist by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:30 PM
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Not really, the beauty trends could be obese women seeing body positivity content. Oh, btw, i was a lazy gamer man, didn't prevent me from scoring a job. The lazy gamer man might also be streaming on twitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:24 PM
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You're moving the goalpost. I'm only saying men get devalued for not having sex by both men and women, not that man sluts are valued by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:40 PM
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Yes, but if you are are 40, in your 40s, you are not menopausic yet. But you were talking about late 30s women as approaching menopause. 40s women are approaching menopause.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:55 PM
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By trend I mean pattern, not something that is "trending"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:48 PM
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Did the guy above delete his answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:45 PM
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40s menopause? LoL what the fuck , that's early as fuck. Normal menopausic range is 45 to 55.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:41 PM
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Men will have high standards if they improves. My brother, the problem with online dating is that every attractive dude is willing to date and fuck everything that moves. Disabled women are dating above average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:33 PM
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Even the tall girls are complaining that short women go for men much taller than them, basketball level. Overall preference for women of all heights is taller men, everything over 180cm is better than everything under 180
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:26 PM
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Too tall is still better than short. Guys with 2m have more options than guys with 170cm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:25 PM
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Not when the counterpart of the "lazy gamer men" is the social media addicted woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:23 PM
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I would use the infinite money to get ultra rich. Then use the rest of the infinite money to build nuclear power plants everywhere for fun. Oh wait, only for dating? Stopping global warming helps more people date in the future. I would then use the rest of the infinite money to cause recreational inflation crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:18 PM
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Being a valid reason(debatable) is different from being the reason. You'd be surprised how often men and women tolerate bad behavior and not divorce, but then divorce out of boredom, lack of attraction, and falling in love with someone else. So far,this is speculation and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:08 PM
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It's not misogyny. A man who wants to be treated like a princess and be the one to get protected by the wife, not lead and be physically weaker than the wife is not a masculine man. That's a simple description. As a consequence, women would prefer not to date said man. That's preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:04 PM
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Late 30s? If you say a woman is approaching menopause, everybody will think at least 40 if not almost 50
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:02 PM
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The narrative is a trend, not a preference of every man on earth. Men do prefer youth and attractiveness over feminity on average. If anything, that most of the responses, even among RP men looking for feminine wives are that they prefer younger should tell you that the narrative is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:54 PM
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Funny joke from a woman online: "When i'm frustrated with work and want to quit but my husband tells me "you can do it!" Instead of "do it, I will support you fully" " I find it cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:50 PM
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What spectrum? Autism? Men are far more. Women are more likely to exhibit problems such as borderline or bipolar. Also, as an anecdote, my wife and other wives I know were more and more inclined to quit their jobs and get supported by the husband alone, specially when the men gets a pay raise. It's now a subtle trend in career women posts online. My wife is waiting for the day I can make as much or more than us both so she can quit her job, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:37 PM
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You are now schizoing completely out of topic moving the goalpost. I just showed a published research and a lecture that says that went are not honest to what they consider more important in a relationship, putting personality above looks when looks are more important. Hence, lack of honesty demonstrated. Whatever you're yapping about here is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:36 PM
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Yes they will make up a nonsense excuse talking about personality and sets up future failures for the same guy. You could just say you didn't find him attractive enough. Women have no problem rejecting men due to being short, so the politeness excuse is not even true anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:29 PM
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It's not up to debate, women say personality is above looks, but in reality it's not, this is what upsets men. Men and women value physical attractiveness over everything else. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date was physical attractiveness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5640931_Sex_Differences_in_Mate_Preferences_R…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:27 PM
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The age gap is far too big for most guys responding here, including me, to consider the second. No surprise that most here prefer the boss baby, while the one older guy here prefers the second. Age influences a lot, the question is a bit misplaced if you are intending to gather whether men prefer trad wives or boss babes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:04 PM
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Everyone has eyes but women will keep deluding everyone say it doesn't matter much, that it's all confidence and personality. One gender is being honest, the other isn't. You are bothered by honesty for reasons who the fuck knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:00 PM
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The whining is that both men and women care just as much, yet women don't want to admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:59 PM
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And why is it a men insecurity to be insulted relative to their sexuality, Ms? Perhaps because it's tied to how others see him? Women get more insulted for being called sluts than men, why is it? Just their own insecurities, or the fact that sluts (when female)are perceived as less valuable women for men and society in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:39 PM
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Not what I asked. I'm talking about source that women divorce more because of housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:16 PM
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If you're simply not feeling it, its not ok to leave because it harms your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:18 AM
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Citation needed that women divorce more because men do less housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:17 AM
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I don't know how you guys don't see this Is a gender reversal of the common red pill rant about single mothers. But I unironically believe any sort of single parenthood shouldn't be encouraged unless necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:39 PM

He is already too old for that. People should not skip relationships to go monk mode during school, but he is already too late on the ride, this advice would work on a 22 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:31 PM
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Remember pews method for collecting data is cold calling, that means we could be getting a unrepresented sample pertaining to the 18-29 group Since when? Pew Research Center conducted this study to better understand single Americans, from their romantic goals to their experiences with online dating. This survey was conducted among 6,034 U.S. adults from July 5-17, 2022. This included 4,996 respondents from the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP), an online survey panel that is recruited through…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:12 PM
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Woman, I just showed you the stats, the whole worldview thing is your invention to keep changing the goalpost and not admit you are just ignorant. There is a research that shows what OP mentioned, it's not made up like you suggested it's not rage bait, nor it is low sample size. You could simply say you don't believe it and move on instead of pulling up ignorant excuses. If you want to doubt the data,go read the study, go pull up the dataset and analyze it. Otherwise, its just pathetic ignorance…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:03 PM
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You know nothing, since you have not presented any sort of justification about how the sample size is small. Calling a 3000 sample small reeks of someone who has no familiarity with stat polls of any kind. The only pathetic person is the one that remains ignorant by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:50 PM
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The only pathetic person is you who knows jack shot about statistics and goes around saying the sample size is small. Randomized samples to collect information about populations of millions of people don't need to extend to more than a few thousand. https://www.calculator.net/sample-size-calculator.html?type=1&cl=95&ci=2&pp=50&ps=1000000&x=Calculate You could read this and acquire actual knowledge instead of regurgitating ignorance and accuse a statistical research of rage bait just because you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:40 PM
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60% single men from 18-30. Around 30 % single women on this range. 30-45 we have 20-30% single both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:44 PM
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Bad idea, unless you want to get metooed . Don't go looking for people in places that social interaction is not assumed. College is the time and place for people to find their mates, when the time runs out there,.only a friend's group can help. And that is less than 30% of the daring market. Online dating is reality now. 60% of new couples form there. With people socializing less and less, this is not going to become better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:41 PM
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It's not going to be easy to find since online dating consists of 60%+ new couples , and then you have clubs and bars which is likewise shallow. 30% of the dating space left.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:36 PM

Most college students have jack shit though. Worse, they have debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:30 PM

Then this relationship is only causing more problems to his life, he should leave and sort it out, regardless of his future love endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:00 PM

If thats so nobody should start dating in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:51 PM

Multiple breakups during the relationship of a year or so Breaking up with the same woman over and over? If so, he should leave regardless. If not, only if the relationships are getting in the way of career.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:50 PM
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Look, just because you say you looked at google, it doesn't mean you did https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68505321 Few patients in the UK have come back to use their frozen eggs, but for those who do, the success rates are slightly lower than IVF using fresh eggs - which is about 20-30% per round depending on age. It could be as low as 5% for people in their 40s, according to HFEA. https://www.vox.com/health/24141538/egg-freezing-cost-age-ivf-fertility-pregnancy Today, there’s more data available, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:29 PM
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The biggest contributors are: Prohibitive cost to multiple kids Women choosing to have no kids in favour of career. Or simply having less kids to not bother the career as much Obviously, much more prevalent use of contraceptives Participation of women in the workforce is much more correlated with decreasing birthrates https://scholars.fhsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1426&context=sacad Income for men consistently correlates with more kids on recent days. The relationshio for women is that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:23 PM
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I never said you did, i said you could do the same with 25 year olds and the results would look similar to the ones you posted there. With a massive fall post the cutoff, because you're lumping a fertile group with multiple groups with low fertility. Its a bad way to show drop off in fertility, you could just plot it per age like its done here. https://www.britishfertilitysociety.org.uk/fei/at-what-age-does-fertility-begin-to-decrease/ That way you can see there isn't significant difference betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:05 PM
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Freezing eggs can't be late, if a woman decides to freeze mid 30s its already late. If a woman manages to get a career to support the huge cost of egg freezing by 28 then i agree its a failsafe, but most people will only get enough resources to do so mid 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:59 PM
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It also means that even when they want it, it's too late. Career woman that decides to not have kids and woman that decided to settle down at 40 and fail to have kids enter the same statistic for lack of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:36 AM
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In a terrible way, because I'd you lumped 25 yr old men with older, you would also see they are less fertile than under 25, but no sane person you argue that 25 is old, which is what you tried to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:34 AM
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It won't happen because men brotherhood stops in the internet. Men will always see each other as potential competition, and the threat of not getting or losing women due to fighting for your gender rights brings shame that Men aren't willing to overcome. Being called incel online is no big deal, but when this happens IRL it will shatter the men's vision of self worth, which is directly tied to how successful he is at attracting the other sex. Until men stop seeing getting laid as q crucial aspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:59 AM
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Men Will struggle to reproduce post 45 the same way a 35 year old will struggle to reproduce. Past some point a woman can't reproduce anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:28 AM
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The whole woman having biological clock was invented by a male journalist in the 1970’s I guess you can invent things that have always existed. Totally what you meant. You guys don't read what you write.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:26 AM
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Menopause is false folks. Women prior to 1970 were having kids in their 50s all the time. Ever older, remember Abraham story?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:02 AM
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Women in their dating pool have already had kids and dont want more Women are having kids later, not sooner. >Another study of intrauterine artificial insemination found that after six cycles, men who were 35 or under had a fertility rate of 52%, whereas men over the age of 35 had a fertility rate of 25%" Does this tell you that when a man turns 35 a switch turns on his balls and he suddenly goes from 52 to 25? You're lumping 35 year old men with 45, 55, 65, it's obvious that the fertility will …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:00 AM
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Male circumcision reduces male pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:53 PM
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right, so in video games all women have big boobs and ass and you are in love and care about all of them lol sure lol You don't play videogames. No, not all videogames have women with big boobs and ass. Btw, a minority of them are like that nowadays. God of war, elden ring, mortal Kombat , baldurs gate, sekiro do not possess any of the women you speak of. And the games that have said women, Bayonetta and stellar blade for example, the woman happens to have a whole ass character arc. So unless th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:20 PM
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Just like the love interests of the male protagonists are in love with the person. The person just happens to be very hot. Just like the love interest of k-dramas happen to be rich CEOs. You're just inventing problems. It's never the case that the female love interest is just a piece of ass. Your brain is rotten by porn. I'll go further. Female character in games are far more humanized than 99% of the male ones, sho serve only as obstacles to be killed. Again, you're hating on something just bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:38 PM
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Portraying men to be suitable partners only when they have money and status is definitely a good thing and totally doesn't affect women's relationship with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:27 PM
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As much objectification as K-dramas portrayal of men love interest as rich handsome CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:42 PM
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Women have schrodingers intuition They can sense an incel loser, whiner, mysogynistic guy, hence why you don't get dates, even if they don't know the guy. Yet complain about situationships, shitty boyfriends, abusive and unfaithful exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:39 PM
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Get better reading comprehension and stop strawmanning Hope i helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:34 PM
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The thing is, he probably still won't get as much unnatractive women anyway. What women (and men) fail to understand is that in the modern dating landscape, the problem is that women have too many options. Disabled women and fat women will get access to above average man. All because these men are willing to fuck everything that moves. Then, by supply and demand, why would a below average woman, who has access to above average man right off the bat, pick a "self improved buff midget"? Online dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:26 PM
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Yeah but money works to get sex, golddigging or otherwise. If you are in search of true love then its another talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:14 PM
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Getting attention doesn't imply getting success. Men are using masked heels to increase their height, they get more attention of women, until they realize that he's not that tall. If you do not have the perceived qualities, frauding it can help you get away with attracting more, until they realize you're just pretending. There is enough makeup and filters online to transform an ogre into a princess, its still not a good idea to bank into those things when you don't actually have the qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:02 PM
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My guy, women needed men to survive in this period, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:47 AM
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Women in women sub precisely complain about putting effort to attract men beause "They just care about looks" and "Only want you for sex". So all in all its just bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:30 AM

“Women having any sort of standard is a problem.” You’re also proving my point by adding in muscles. Also, the vast majority of people’s bodies are normal, so idk why you guys wanna talk about people with disorders/defects/disabilities. I never said it is a problem, lol. You are just either immensely dishonest, or you have the most terrible reading comprehension of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:26 AM

I'm just showing you're desperate for attention, you can keep doing whatever you like, i'm going to keep pointing it out, because the RULES OF THE SUB disavow ranting. You just ignore the replies of men Me: Replies to the majority of them. This is what you quote You just ignore the replies of men that say they did what you suggest, it failed[...] This is what i wrote. Thank you for proving my point, you are dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:24 AM
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This is scientific truth, the best determinant of mating success in all animals is genetic quality. Hence why women heavily select for Height(genetic) and Face(genetic), body shape(genetic) and much less for muscles(mostly aquired) And men select for face(genetic), body shape(Genetic), fat distribution(genetic), when they can, at least, without options anything goes. Traits above are what is first and foremost correlated to succesful dating, for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:18 AM
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Here is a manosphere place, so more men will flock here. If you go to places where women flock too, you will see the same complaints "Men are shallow" "They just want you for sex" and the like, as a justification to "not put in effort"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:14 AM
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The men that you refer "don't put in effort" are the same ones that are putting effort in things like looksmaxxing. They are just calling you on your bullshit on the recommendations that don't work. No one here has ever said not getting rich or hot would not work. They just disagree with the 3rd point, which is very much true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:13 AM
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Your posts are just rants with 0 evidence, 0 research and just you wanting to megaphone to the entire sub of how you disliked the opinions of some men here. You're just transforming your individual discussions with people of this sub into everyone else's business. You just ignore the replies of men that say they did what you suggest, it failed, then they did something else that you didn't recommend, and it worked, rightfully call you on your bullshit, and you pretend you didn't see anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:09 AM

He is responding to you with his interpretation of your post, i'm clarifying his interpretation of your post. Glad you can understand you're not the center of the universe. His interpretation of your post is that it is rubbish and physical appearence is all that matters Someone else comes out and says its the profile improvement, this was never mentioned, thus i say he isn't talking about profile improvement, but physical appearence. Whether or not his interpretation of your post is wrong is irr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:57 AM
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Species don't have needs. Individuals have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:45 AM
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Something seems off Yeah, his height. Your posts reek of "poor people are poor because they don't try hard enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:39 AM
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He's 5'3. Your question is like wondering how a homeless guy can't find money to eat lobster.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:37 AM

Irrelevant because I'm talking not about your OP, but the reply of someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:56 AM
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Women objectification = showing women with revealing clothing. The only reason to be bothered by this is because you're not the target audience. So, hate for no reason. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuFlRs6KQMU&pp=ygUvdmlkZW8gZ2FtZXMgYXBwZWFsIHRvIHRoZSBtYWxlIGZhbnRhc3kgb3JpZ2luYWw%3D
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 10:36 PM
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Woman seethe a lot against video games with sexualized characters who have their target audience as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 10:33 PM
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Men do get devalued by not having success with women. There is a very recent thread showing that most women there wouldn't date a virgin and some of them see it as a red flag. "Getting no bitches" "never feeling the touch of a woman" "incel" are common insults for men. What does this tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:08 PM
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OP is not a woman? I thought so by seeing succubus, but it's a man, read too fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:59 PM
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There is a population of women online complaining that men aren't approaching. So there are a lot of opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:26 PM
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If one side is telling you to get away, while at the same time wanting you to pursue, its better to simply leave them alone. I do believe that more men should just take the feminist stance of "We don't owe you shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:21 PM
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The other post was a shitshow, it went from women assuming a virgin guy at 25 is a psycopath to being a religious zealot to the few ones who said no problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:17 PM
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In find it weird that women assume automatically that a guy who doesn't pursue will become celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:16 PM
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Courting the woman, basically being the first to show interest and being the one to convince her to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:15 PM
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Dodged the question, moved the goalpost. Bb
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:05 PM
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There is a world of difference between "women want less sex" and "women hate sex" Holy fuck, that should be obvious, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 06:19 PM
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This is just flat denial, you can see that they're using tinder. What i'm simply showing you is women being interested in sex upfront, your thesis of women hating sex is disproven, good day. If women hated sex, they wouldn't message attractive men with "wanna bang" on a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:32 PM
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You can, when the guy is not attractive, there is another video of the same person doing this same experiment and getting almost no response, because he wasn't attractive. More evidence to what i say. Its funny that you provide 0 evidence while i do, and you simply say "well thats not enough". Show me yours. More videos for you. https://youtu.be/5cDeoy6Ds3M?si=9rd2b6lhgNbgvujV&t=22 https://youtu.be/EFnJMPQow7A?si=DHKt9P_UNb_pT4pM&t=96 https://youtu.be/7x5oTZs6Bp0?si=PyiyVJ_MEAqR7b54&t=90 How muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:14 PM
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I'm presenting you with evidence while you keep yapping. "Women don't want to have sex" is what is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:56 PM
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Nothing to do with profile, everything to do with appearance. You didn't read what he wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:56 PM
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No, why should i sent stuff from my personal life just to please a strange? haha. Yeah there is always a risk. Risk for a man to also be locked to a kid, just like the woman. Abortion, contraceptives. If there is no interest to have kids, how is sex for women a "bad" thing? If this was all that mattered, women would never do casual sex. But they do, without any expectation of dinner, all the time, we aren't in the 1900s anymore. If you're an attractive man, women will approach you and ask for se…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:47 PM
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Citation needed. Just a dose of reality for you: https://youtu.be/Ks_dZgzwDg4?si=_J7KiDUyhG2d2ZwL&t=309 Woman hate sex with you and the people you know because you ain't attractive. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:44 PM
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I'm not using one woman from a deleted video to say all are like that, just rebuffing that this is a good strategy. It isn't, you have no proof of that either. Just telling the men that they can "stand out" more and will still get rejected anyway. Also, i have a wife so calling my view self defeatist is hilarious. I just didn't use bad strategies like the ones you mention. There are also other examples, such was one short guy who dressed well, good looking and also that had "interesting hobbies"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:32 PM
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I'm not attractive, but regardless, she specifically said tha the "confident outgoing" persona didn't appease her and asked me to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:30 PM
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This advice is mostly pointless because while it can make you stand out more, you are still unlikely to get a match anyway. Its effort to still not match, i'd say just leave the dating apps. There is a video (which is now unavailable on youtube) of a 30 year old woman swiping on tinder. She instantly rejects most of the men, then she sees one with an interesting picture, looks at his profile, sees more interesting qualities(good job, interesting hobbies, like pets she likes), looks like its gonn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:20 PM
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That all men need sex in their lives otherwise they are rejecting their true nature and will go insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:57 AM
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This is massive overthinking and exaggeration. People that are obsessed with something will likely have 0 time to even get a date and will struggle everywhere socially, with family, friends, work... It's not a dating problem first and foremost, it's a life one. If anything, women are far more obsessed with social media than men are with video games. But this kind of addiction is far more socially acceptable. I would seriously not be surprised if a woman says that she sees so social media often. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:50 AM
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Oh I have a wife, I don't need you attempt to Shame me for lack of sex, it fails. I agree with your points, except the third because men and women will date bad people and reject people that treat them right all the time. Being polite and nice doesn't make people horny. But you still didn't answer why is it bad to ask for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:45 AM
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Oh your poor guy. You also believe this lie. Women hate sex with you/the average guy. When they are with someone they are sexually attracted to, they are very much like men with their libido and their tolerance of things they would otherwise dislike. All of this here is just the response to the average guy. IRL, tons of experiments in tinder have shown women simply ask for sex straight up to an attractive guy, and being slutty upfront, responding lewd messages positively and so forth without any…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:42 AM
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Honestly focus on what you want. If you want a quick bang, be upfront, if you want to meet someone first, then ask for a date. Its really nor worth it to ruminate about the kind of stuff that is very subjective in the first place. The only dating advice that works is to get more attractive other than that just find someone that likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:11 PM
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My wife doesn't like oral as much because she likes kissing a lot during sex and the smell grosses her out. She orgasms almost all the time with PIV positions where the clit is stimulated. And is far harder to please with direct stimulation. Got a lot of classes on tongue techiniques to no avail.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:05 PM
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The wall is just red pill cope. 30s women still have much higher SMV than men. Redpill just assumes that every 30s men is a succesful business men with a 6 figures salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:55 PM
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De facto does not exist on all countries. In any case, the judges can always just tear down any agreement regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:44 PM
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Women aren't entitled to shit. She is a grown adult and can leave anytime she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:40 PM

And you are the lesbian lover of his girlfriend? I'm here doing the same as you are. And i'm entertaining myself with you raging over a normal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:37 PM
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Luckily consenting on not marrying is totally ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:36 PM

And you will keep seething here hoping that she does it just because you can't accept consenting adults in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:30 PM
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Duck herding? I'm interested now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:23 PM
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they flock to the rock star. For every axl rose there are 1000 of guys who are playing to the girl they like and getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:23 PM
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Because skills/hobbies don't produce sexual attraction Skills and hobbies are useful for compatibility, lifestyle, living together, but they don't cause you to become sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:21 PM
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No, based on what you're saying, being a frontman of a band with a crazy voice making tons of 10s leak over you. This is something only rock stars have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:26 PM
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No, people are sufficiently different so you can find someone compatible with you. Dating isn't a job interview. Lots of boring people are happy with other boring people by doing boring people stuff together. One does not need to find interesting people, instead, compatible people that you're attracted with. I'm not anything remarkable, i am shy, reserved, closed. I fell for a girl and listened to the kind of advice you told me here, get better hobbies, improve, be charismatic. She mid date aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:24 PM
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You just missed the time period where these same men where the ones listening to self improvement, learn an instrument, learn to talk to women, women like funny guys, and all the common sense stuff that every guy hears from early age. Yet none of this worker, they all got no girlfriends. Now they are lashing out against the advice that didn't work. And you are mad at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:20 PM
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The truth: If you're attractive, your unnatractive hobbies will become more attractive Gamer = not attractive Henry cavill, gamer, building a pc = Uh so hot! Expert rubix cube solver? Not attractive https://www.tiktok.com/@rubiksofficial/video/7243716732370619675 No women commenting, no one saying he's hot. Rubix cube solving while attractive: https://www.tiktok.com/@ness_af/video/7298538085971889454 Women says he's hot and make a big deal about the rubiks cube.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:17 PM
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Finally a good take. I really don't understand these "stop playing video games!!! Its unnatractive!" Bitch i'm playing because i like it, not to get chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:06 PM
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You are saying that ugly people can have lots of sex if they have the status of rock star and athletes that gain millions. Very good advice!!!!! just be gene simmons bro, just be messi, bro. For every messi there are 1000 regular footballers that gain no more than an average salary that are complaining they don't get matches on tinder. For every gene simmons there are 1000 of guitar playing guys who asked a girl out with a guitar and got rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:03 PM
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Yeah, fuck that, men should not make their whole lives about getting women. Not only will that not work, it will also make you a slave and miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:56 PM
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You can read a lot of trash books. Lots of "readers" will read about pseudoscientific nonsense like self help books, "spirituality to succeed in life" Or will simply read fiction books, which is basically the same as playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:56 PM
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No, what i mean is that the boring average people are perfectly dateable. The exciting top % of people usually get along with themselves. So looking for them when you yourself are not one, or looking to appease boring people by being interesting is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:53 PM
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So how is that, for example, there were groups of rockstars that did not yet have a high level of status, or resources and were not super attractive looks wise that were able to have sex with tons of women? All it took for them was charisma/social skills and of course the correct hobbie/skill (music) to get these women. There are guys just like that who struggle with dating. You're just seeing the examples of the ones who succeded. Survivorship bias. Without a proper sample size, these guys simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:51 PM
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Statistically most people. Because most people are boring. So most of the time boring goes for boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:47 PM
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unscientific nonsense. Men and women value physical attractiveness over everything else. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date was physical attractiveness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5640931_Sex_Differences_in_Mate_Preferences_Revisited_Do_People_Know_What_They_Initially_Desire_in_a_Romantic_Partner https://pancake…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:44 PM
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Most people are boring, average, nothing much to stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:35 PM
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Being a people pleaser is a slave lifestyle. Do what you LIKE to do, not what makes you more interesting to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:34 PM
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Video games are hobbies, as much as watching movies, series, playing cards...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:33 PM
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Charisma/social skills is a very innacurate/unreliable way to get dates. You can get a lot of friends with charisma, but plenty of charismatic people get no dates. Why? Attraction is not negotiable. I tried being charismatic and "able to convey stories" while dating my wife. She cringed and asked me to stop, because she liked me for being shy and closed. One should strive for compatibility, not to have a personality that pleases most. Personality only dictates how good it is to hang out and live…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:32 PM
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Hobbies are attractive when they exist in a sufficiently attractive person. Henry cavill, gamer, building pc = Hot Overall opinion of gamers = Not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:27 PM
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You still can't know that. But even if they are, its better for a guy looking for sex to be upfront and filter until he finds the niche he has more success with, than try to appeal to a wider audience with way more effort involved and way more uncertainty. Ask for sex. If rejected , you lost 1 second of your life. Keep going until you find one that is looking for a casual hookup. Better than "going easy" and getting a lot of dates where the woman refuses to have sex with you in the end, lots of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:18 PM
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dating apps and hook up apps like tinder are the same thing. Some people use to date first, other for casual sex, again, excluding this just because you can't accept that there are many people who are ok with being upfront is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:53 PM
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Again, you're confusing things again, somone can become more ATTRACTIVE to you for some reason unrelated to physical traits. But the physical attractiveness is described as "Physical traits deemed attractive" A good personality won't make a jawline sharper or boobs bigger, this is what was being measured in the experiment. And it was found out that raw physical traits were more important. I really don't know why is mentioning yourself and being mad that i don't consider your experience relevant …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:47 PM
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Never seen a reply mentioning two consenting adults planning to never get married cause so much rage, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:29 PM
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Keep seething, the woman is free to do what she wants;
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:27 PM
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If they're cool with it, what is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:26 PM
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Lots of women insist on keep working enough to have their own money in the marriage to become less vulnerable when divorce happens, even if they trust their husband. There is nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:25 PM
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Wrong, this applies to worldwide, mainly because places with huge populations, such as india, have extremely skewed ratios https://np.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/165lsmp/tinder_gender_ratios_as_of_may_2023/ In europe the its 50% men, 50% women, USA 65-35. Also, just because the ratio favours men, it doesn't mean most women are out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:17 PM
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What you think is meaningless because it doesn't mean it is true. Besides, it doesn't matter, most men will only date a small set of women. If a guy can find a niche that he does well with, its far better than trying to appeal to a wider audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:07 PM
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Ratio is skewed by countries like india. Europe is 50-50 male and females.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:06 PM
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Don't dodge the question, i asked if you would find it offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:03 PM
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Literally nonsensical, physical attractiveness is only for physical traits, the researchers specifically separated it, and if you were even correct, the personality would never fall behind, because, according to you, they go hand in hand. You don't get to simply dismiss the whole result because of your nonsensical remarks. Besides your provide 0 evidence anyway, just your opinion. My wife literally asked me mid date when we were dating to stop trying to be charismatic, because she liked me as re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:03 PM
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If my wife asks me for sex without me showing interest. She is sexually harassing me? No. Because that is not the definition, neither is the definition the article uses. When you're on a hook up app, getting asked for sex is expected. If getting asked for sex was harassment, getting asked for anything when you don't want it would. So if a woman went up to me on a dating site asking for a date without me asking her to send me a message, she would be harassing me. The link defines harassment as "C…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:59 PM
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Yeah, a hook up app which is reality now. 60%+ couples form through online dating. So you're excluding a whole set of dating just to say something you particularly think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:18 PM
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Citation needed on everything you say. Plus, does it matter? Women even on speed dating SAY they want personality first, but act otherwise, so it simply mentions how what women say vs what they want differs. So it doesn't really help to ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:16 PM
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Your analogy only works if you think that sex is a benefit to men, and not to women. A woman having sex to a man is akin to someone giving money to another? If thats so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:14 PM
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It cannot, this is not what the link says. And "sexual messages" encompass many things that are not asking for sex. If you really think that asking for sex on a dating site is harassment, you are seriously mentally ill This isn't a gendered issue either , women also send sexual messages asking for sex. Plus, its "sexually explicit messages" asking for sex isn't explicit, saying things like "i want to fuck you doggy raw" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:03 PM
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Don't drop links on me thinking I'm not going to read it. The link says that women (57%)experience persistent messages after they STATE THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED or they receive explicit messages . This has nothing to do with asking sex upfront to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:58 PM
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Sex is not a transation where women gives something to men without getting nothing back. Women want casual sex too, and they also do it without expecting "something in return". We're not in the 1900s anymore. The problem is not free sex, but who to "give" free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:52 PM
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Why is wanting free sex a bad thing? Do you not think women want casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:51 PM
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All nonsense, women want casual sex, like men, without any strings attached. This is not the 1900s anymore. There is 0 problem in stating you want sex from someone if you're on a dating app, men and women do this, and it works, no reason to get offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:49 PM
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If you're on the street, sure. If you're on tinder... what are you doing there then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:47 PM
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How offensive is if a woman comes to you and say "Hey, want to have sex?" On tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:41 PM
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No, logic test Statement 1: A->B (if women, bad advice about women) then Statement 2: A-->C(if women, good advice about men) Statement 1 does not imply statement 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:37 PM
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Requesting sex is offensive? Are you on the 1900s? Do you think that women don't simply want casual sex and simply message men they want to bang with "wanna have sex?" How naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:33 PM
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Most women complain about this on tinder and most dating app Citation needed. I would say it's about as rude and in poor taste as a woman asking you how much money you make after a few interactions. Like an excuse me? This comparison is hilarious, what does how much i earn have anything to do with sex? Contrary to your prude belief, asking to have sex upfront has everything to do with sex. Just because you dislike it, it doesn't mean that everyone, nor most people, does. The comparison is also h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:21 PM
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There actually isn't, if a woman is turned off after a sexual message, you lost 1 second, if you were not explicit enough, got into a date to "come over" and the woman, just like in the video, didn't want to have sex, you lost your whole day. By being explicit, you're filtering out people who would otherwise waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:20 PM
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When women are quite clear they want relationship False, we're not in the 1900s anymore, women want casual sex as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:17 PM
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None of them are reliable, your evidence being unreliable does not make opposite unreliable evidence reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:11 PM
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My point is that there is no downside of not being explicit anyway, its better for both parties. You can't really assure me that people won't come over to others houses and will have sex all the time. This woman here disagrees https://youtu.be/Y4E8qEDi_xg?si=9C-fNP09NAvZAdSu&t=107 So here is a quick disproval of your thesis, just stating the obvious that your experience is not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:10 PM
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It does not, data can only provides direction if its reliable. A properly randomized, non self reported data would give you some direction, not asking people about their sexual lives when there is stigma associated with it, this is close to useless. There is a study about height vs sexual partner count, showing that short guys can still have lots of sexual partners. The researchers themselves comment how the fact that self reporting can introduce numerous biases, such as the fact that people wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:04 PM
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Your experience is pointless, its not a data point to describe the average experience. Many people go first to restaurants, movies, parks, when scheduling a tinder date. This is just you refusing to accept that there are different experiences of people in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:59 PM
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Its not rude, this happens in tinder all the time, and works all the time. Men and women will message with each other saying "Wanna bang" and go out to bang. If sex is assumed, there is no rudeness in sending sexual messages. You're all either stuck in the 1900s or you are simply unwilling to admit that being upfront about sex is not a bad thing because it makes you look bad or something. Using your own logic, the fact that YOU dislike explicit texting does not make your experience (of which exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:58 PM
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No, it simply means the evidence is unreliable, men lie about height, penis size, not really surprising if they lie about sexual partners. Self reported evidence is useless when its prone to be influenced by hawthorne effect. There is also self selection bias, the people who are more likely to want to talk about their sexual lives are the ones that have the most succesful ones. Virgin man don't like to announce they are virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:55 PM
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It does have upsides, there are people who are turned off by this kind of "game", and many men have complaining about dates not progressing to sex when scheduled in dating apps. Assuming that a tinder date will progress to sex automatically because it was scheduled is naive. Many many people use tinder for multiple dates before sex and many people get turned off of sex during the date. Filtering out this situations by being upfront is going to save you time, if sex is your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:52 PM
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Its not, men and women want physical attractiveness first and foremost, "personality and charming" are what women say they want, but when you analyze their dating preferences, its not. Incorrect, both men and women exhibit their first criteria for a succesful date as physical attractiveness. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:49 PM
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Women tend to like a little mystery. This is not the 1900s anymore, women and men are upfront about wanting sex now. Tinder things go "Wanna bang?" to sex on both sides often. Specially if you are attractive, if you are, all the BS about charisma is complete hogwash anyway. There are a lot of tinder experiments where attractive catfishes got away with every lack of charisma in the book. This kind of advice is simply useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:47 PM
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Plenty of people are upfront with wanting sex and have no hard feeling associated with it. Its naive to think that tinder is a place where people assume traditional courtship. No people will message each other "want to fuck at (says time and place)" and just go and do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:44 PM
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Sexual texts on dating apps happen and work all the time. The fact that it is assumed that sex is the goal makes sexual texts more appropriate, not less. Men and women flood each other (when attractive) DMs with simples "wanna bang"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:42 PM
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I think this stems from confusing attraction vs partnership. Someone who is neurotic will be difficult to deal with for family, friends and SO alike. Some personality traits can make you harder to live together and be compatible, but sexual attraction transcends that, hence why lots of "bad people" manage to get constant relationships, in fact, people with narcisistic, neurotic traits are considered to being more seductive when they have social presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:38 PM
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You're just throwing words at the wall hoping they stick. No matter how much mental gymnastics you practice, birth rates are falling since the baby boom, regardless of economic growth, way before any problem with the pyramid happened, in fact, the birth rates fell when the pyramid was in its best state: excess of working adult population due to the boom. The baby boom was unprecedent on whole history. No other time of economic growth has any such rates happened. Birthrates falling have direct co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:20 AM
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Nonsensical BS. Don't try to make bro culture a science, Rizz is positively going not for what women do, but what they say. All the talk about personality and "being fun, having fun conversation" is all women talk about. The reality is that Physical attractiveness and status is the first parameter for female physical attractiveness. Rizz is just that, a pseudosciencie , like astrology. 0 scientific evidence on any pick up techniques working, again, just men coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:12 AM
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Women should likewise not want to date single fathers. A kid that is not going to ever see any sort of legitimate authority from the step parent is a huge headache. Worse, may not even respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:07 PM
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It is astrology for men because it's a bullshit culture that is used to excuse failures in dating life. Saying you didn't get the girl for lack of Rizz is exactly the same as a women telling she didn't got the guy because of his moon being in Leo or something. There is nothing wrong with trying to figure out, but there is when it involves believing in nonsense. Just accept that you can't make people like you by simply trying hard, and accept those who are actually compatible with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:47 PM
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Acting is faking, charisma isn't necessarily faking. Plus, charisma makes you respected/liked. Plenty of actors are not popular with the general public, nor are very good people to be around(Edward Norton, Amber Heard, the actress of captain marvel...) Yet they are(were) top actors regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:44 PM
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I've also seen multiple comments on serial killer videos of women saying they are good people. That doesn't mean it's the general opinion. Comedian is not a sex appeal profession Singers, doctors, actors, any other profession that has actual status attached over it have sex appeal. Chris rock does not have sex appeal, neither does George Carling. They're clowns, make people laugh, not make people want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:42 PM
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Actors can be charismatic, but their sex appeal is not from charisma, bit apperence, otherwise comedians would have a lot of sex appeal, and, tbh, comedians often seem to have negative sex appeal. And no, actors don't have to train how to be charismatic, they need to train how to act. Edward Norton is a very good actor, but far from charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:54 PM
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Stay mad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:52 PM
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Not related to sexual attraction. Comedians aren't at the top of sex appeal. Handsome people like actors, are. In fact, comedians are very frequently on turbulent relationships, a common source of content for their routines.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:34 PM
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Rizz and game are astrology for men. It doesn't exist and is just a coping mechanics for people who are unsuccessful with dating. Men don't like to accept that they simply aren't good enough for someone full stop, they need to create a narrative that makes them think "if I did x it would work" As if a homeless guy could walk up to people and make them give all the money they have in their wallets by simply saying the correct things. Halo effect will make every personality trait of someone attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:58 PM
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No it wasn't, it was actually balanced, not super high or low, perfectly sustainable. It is consistently falling since 1960, in fact, it fell the hardest post the baby boom, the recent decrease is mild. https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/birth-rate Except society is already collapsing, all you're asking is if it's fair for a parent to be forced to pay for a child they have no rights to, no it's not fair, especially given the statistics of how many parents are …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:10 PM
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Ah the old capitalism bad nonsense. Capitalism brought us to the prosperity we have today. Birth rates were falling long before the inversion of the pyramid. This is off topic, if parents stop being able to support children, society would have collapsed already, we're talking about whether or not is fair to do so when society is functioning properly, this is off topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:22 PM
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Populations increase and decline all the time, for a myriad of reasons, this is not burden or whatnot, its just normal population dynamics. The global population is VERY FAR from declining, india and africa are producing more than enough to keep the growth. The problem with birthrates on developed countries is the pension system, the burden being, not the lack of kids, but old people, that are retired and don't produce. The pension system is rubbish and requires direct taxation of working adults…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:15 PM
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Lol, hilarious. Men aren't entitled to their own children. How about the mother simply hands the kid to the father and moves on? Too hard, right? No, better make the kid EVERYONE ELSE's problem and make the kid be grown not only under taxpayer money, but also without a family, which is recipe for a very bad life for the kid. Enough discussing with braindead people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:27 AM
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I doesn't matter if you support it, or not. In any place where the (problematic box even when safe haven is allowed) doesn't exist, only the mother has the right to drop off the child, or someone with the mothers consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:47 PM
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Not every state has this box, read the georgia example. Only eleven states have this box, and this box is heavily criticized because exactly ANYBODY could drop off a child, be it a parent or otherwise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-haven_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_hatch#United_States
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:45 PM
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Being forced to pay child support is not a right. Not being forced is(should be) I mean I agree, but women CAN run away from it, either via abortion or via safe haven. Also funny to mention that proportionally there are more deadbeat mothers than deadbeat fathers. Safe havens are stupid. Also, abortion isn't a mother relinquishing child support, its her ending her gestation on her body. Men can't do this due to simple biology. Again, you can't have a right you can't physically possess. If a fetu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:38 PM
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Anonimity doesn't mean nobody sees you, you identity is just concealed to the court and general public. https://dhs.georgia.gov/organization/about/georgias-safe-haven-law
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:27 PM
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wrong, women have automatic custody. Father can't abandon child without the mother accepting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:18 PM
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Women can finantially abort via safe haven laws without the consent of the father, men can't do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:16 PM
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It does not, i'm against it. I'm just pointing out that woman have options that men don't, they can effectively finantially abort via safe haven.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:56 PM
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I never said rape victims should pay child support. You just ran out of BS and is dragging me to straw man's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:27 PM
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Ahahahahahahahahahha, fairy tale land.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:26 PM
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Nonsensical take " If you agree that people can kill another in self defense, then you agree murder should be legal, and we just disagree on how and when it should be legal" This is your argument. A child not being forced to pau child support due to rape is not financially aborting, they are just having their rights protected. Nothing is forced upon the father financially that is not for the mother. I don't agree with safe haven laws. Once either parent asks for child support , either parent has…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:26 PM
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The baby is now a problem of the state, ergo, everybody else. This shouldn't be. All that because the mother not only was too lazy to get an abortion, but too lazy to also put the kid to adoption. But you are so hilariously contradictory that you see a problem with father's doing paper abortions, but not with women abandoning their kids full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:17 PM
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Father is with child. Mother suddenly disappears with child. Child is abandoned, father assumes mother is still with child. Father attempts to sue for parental alienation. Time goes by and he loses custody. Mother conceals pregnancy from the father(google it, not just the father but everyone). Unilaterally drops off baby, father never knows kid exists until too late. Loses custody. Etc etc etc. What amazes me is that the only person who is punished for "not caring" is tja father. The mother can …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:14 PM
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That the mother can ignore the existence of the father to unilaterally abandon the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:05 PM
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She of course can, and the problem is that a father can lose custody of his child simply because he didn't know the mother abandoned the child. The government is not forced to make a notice of an abandoned baby in most states.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:04 PM
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It has, a father can't drop a child without the mother consent because the mother has automatic custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:01 PM
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You don't see I'm making this argument to make fun of his proposal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:59 PM
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No, it's not fair. I don't see how this is relevant. This law shouldn't exist. However, women, like men. Are not allowed to escape child support if the other parent has custody and asks for it. If men could get pregnant, they would have access to abortion. It's nonsensical to ask for a right that the mother doesn't have to a guy just because you can't cope with biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:58 PM
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Ita adorable that you don't see I'm being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:53 PM
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I've heard this IRL. Other things include "trying to steal the spotlight of "insert someone that deserves it more". "Why does she comes to the party with a full kilogram of cement in her face (talking about makeup)" You don't see how is it toxic to judge a woman just because she isn't into fashion? This is toxic, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:05 PM
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Men and women will have kids without the means to properly support them. In fact, the poorer, the more kids, such is the paradox of fertility. I don't see what this has to do with paper abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:20 PM

People lie, and if you find out, you leave them. Without any evidence of lying, assuming is just complete and utter paranoia. I'm happily married, and you lack braincells, so i won't be discussing anymore. As if men didn't lie too, women are the devil, i know, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:07 PM
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Then how the fuck did you even get to know that they still do it? You asked her to stop, she stopped, but you think she is lying? ahahahhahaha You are unbeliavably dense. You in all likelihood don't even have a partner, and is just inventing stuff with no logic here to make an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:04 PM
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I really don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:03 PM
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If this was not stated previously, no. Monogamous relationship implies monogamy, if no cheating happens, then there is no immorality. If a woman dates a guy who constantly thirsts over instagram models, and doesn't point it out, instead, rolls with it she is in no right to complain when he keeps doing it after commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:02 PM
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umfathomably based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:47 PM
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I agree, however, you can't prevent people from breeding. At least not without some... peculiar... policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:45 PM
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If men did get pregnant they would be eligible for abortion. However, since men can't, they don't have said right. Its simple to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:44 PM
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If you want people to improve, then say it upfront. Not hide it until you get commitment just so you can bitch about something that always bothered you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:15 PM
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Exactly, hence why the government can just make money out of thin air and create utopia, with no regards of what people want or find fair or are willing to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:00 PM
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Considering one person can take a car and run over various people, yes. Also, even if you don't get picked, you could still be, which would make everyone want to revolt too. George floyd was only one guy, many people protested on his behalf. What about suicides?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:59 PM
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mother and father can be exempt from child support if they can prove they can't provide for the child. Mother and father can go to jail for failing to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:53 PM
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Yeah because OF COURSE you would be INCREDIBLY paranoid that your wife is doing some shady shit on your kid, and OF COURSE you should lose custody if you're not paranoid. Absolute brainrot thought, and one that is only applicable to the father, because the mother can be "careless" to not know what the father is up to, still won't lose custody if the father tries to give the child away. Enough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:51 PM
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They can locate the mother, and the mother can still refuse contact. To go through that, he would need to sue her for what the most likely cause is: parental alienation, all of the time rolls by and he still doesn't know the child is already forfeit. Thats IF the police can actually find the woman, this takes time, specially for someone who doesn't want to be ofund. Again, none of this is required to mother to do, which already shows the inbalance of rights. No matter what narrative you put in y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:49 PM
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The problem is that people who have no relation to a children to be forced to pay for them will likely cause a revolt. Instead of forcing a father to support his own child, will likely cause just a bit of whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:45 PM
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No they don't, because the child doesn't exist. Once abortion is done, there is no new citizen that needs to be fed and get taken care of. Conversely, a mother or a father opting out of a child support throws the burden at everyone else. Which is nonsensical when these people exist and can provide to their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:43 PM
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But its all about the children, ain't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:42 PM
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Its a better investment for the government to not waste its taxpayer overall money to raise a kid when there is a father right there. Kids are only a net benefit to the state because the parents take care of them. The state would not need to encourage parents to adopt if orphans were a benefit to the state while raised via tax money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:39 PM
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no, abortions pass no burden to society. Read the text again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:37 PM
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If you can force fathers to pay child support you can force childless couples to pay child support to adoptees.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:36 PM
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I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:34 PM
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Emotional damage is not a burden to society. Me watching Hachiko causes emotional damage to me, not a burden to society. Global population collapse is not a thing. And also, not a burden, having kids is not an obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:33 PM
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Fathers aren't automatically assumed, the woman is the one who says who is the father(and if the father agrees, he gets paternity, if not, DNA will assure the paternity). Likewise, a woman can NOT say who the father is and then drop off the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:26 PM
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You are incredibly confused, i'm against fathers doing paper abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:04 PM
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The state is there to enforce that such crimes are punished. Again, its all for the child, the child first. Why don't you think of the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:55 PM
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He could be sick, on a trip, he could be seeing the kid 24/7 but without knowing the mother intentions, she would disappear without warning and many things could be the cause of that. Also, what a delusion way of seeing custody, did you make a mistake? Well too bad, you lost your kid. Funny thing is that the mother can make all these mistakes but this thing can never happen to her due to presumed custody. But suddenly only fathers can be held up to standads.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:52 PM
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He can be seeing the baby 24/7 and the woman still can drop the baby off without him knowing. A sudden disappearence of the mother and the child could mean a dozen of things that are not dropping on a safe haven. Again, if the father DOES NOT KNOW, he can't. Most states are NOT REQUIRED to notice the abandonment. The father could be sick, could be on a businness trip, could be doing anything that prevents him from knowing where the child is, because he won't suspect the mother will do anything c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:48 PM
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Yes, exactly? What part of my text didn't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:45 PM
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Its not, women aren't allowed to forsake child support. Women are allowed to not carry a pregnancy, if men could get pregnant, they would have access to abortion too. Since this doesn't exist, only women, duh, can have this right. You can't have reproductive rights of something that does not happen inside your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:43 PM
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So is calling out jealously for "copying" your style? You can't make this shit up. 99% of the time the dresses aren't even ugly. Its not as if the woman will be known as someone who doesn't know how to dress properly and will be constantly gossiped behind her back. Totally not toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:33 PM
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Nope, the mother has custody rights, the baby being with her is not a concern of the law. Also, the mother isn't forced to tell the father she wants to drop off the baby, all of this can be done anonimously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:31 PM
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If the father of the kid locates the kid and gets custody Lots of IFS here. Anonimity and lack of putative paternity makes this incredibly hard, and if not done quickly, can lead to permanent loss. Even on adoption cases, fathers can lose paternity if they don't act quickly. Also, it doesn't matter. The mother has an option to get rid of child support, fathers don't. Since women have automatic custody, the reverse situation can't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:29 PM
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"The baby will be located" Only if the laws of the state require noticing, most don't. This only works if the father KNOWS that the mother put the baby on a safe haven. If not, though luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:25 PM
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Wrong, raising kids is a net positive to the state. Handing out them to childless couples with lots of money would direct their money to a more productive thing for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:14 PM
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Both sexes have to take the consequence of their actions if the child is born. Let me remind you: Pregnancy is not fair, the woman takes all the burden conceiving the child. Giving the man added right on not having to raise the child would not be fairness, quite the contrary. You can't ask for a right when you don't have a child inside you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:11 PM
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He cannot, women give birth, kid stays with the woman, women have automatic custody. Fathers don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:35 PM
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No, why does it matter here? I'm only pointing out that you don't have to make everything about consent. More often than not it is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:29 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:25 PM
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True, all those single neoliberals accumulating wealth need to raise a kid to quell their instiable money ambitions!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:25 PM
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Nope, she can, and in most states, after the abandonment, no effort is taken to locate the supposed father, the child is assumed abandoned and all parental rights are taken away. The mother can simply drop the kid on a safe haven without him knowing, and roll with it. Anonimity makes it even harder to find the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:24 PM
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Not if the mother simply exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:01 PM
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Women can under safe haven laws. And they can via adoption if they declare the father is unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:58 AM
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Luckily the parent can, via the state, so it doesn't have to bother other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:58 AM
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I'm not supporting laws that make male rape victims liable for child support, and this is not the topic of the OP either. What i argue is that just because women can abort, it is not "fair" that men can paper abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:56 AM
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No, consent is simply the stated will of someone, you can state your will to not pay the bill but this is irrelevant. Its not about consent. "I consented only to drive the car, not to hit the pedestrians". Peak nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:53 AM
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Why is the current generation so obssessed with consent for all nonsensical things? Is eating the food of a restaurant consent to paying the bills? Consent is only relevant when consent is required.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:44 AM
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Yeah, but it doesn't mean that most single people go to clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:39 AM
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The mother that does so is free of child support. Which goes against the idea of "child first" that is used to counter father's paper abortion claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:38 AM
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But women have the option WITH the father existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:32 AM
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Therefore, childless couples should be forced to adopt children, all about the healthy, not in poverty kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:28 AM
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most single people are like that Thats a nice argument senator but why don't you back it up with a SOURCE? Btw, most people i know don't like partying, it doesn't seem like coincidence, i've never associated with these people. They ain't the stereotypical religious people either. I just always made friends with people who weren't about night life and as a result, i've seldom interacted with clubbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:27 AM
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Cool, it still passes an unnecessary burden to society over someone else's mistake. Waste of money and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:25 AM
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Because muh unfairness that women get pregnant and can abort and i don't (As if it was a benefit!)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:51 AM
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Making parents able to opt out of supporting their childs is a bad idea. Abortions have no burden passed to society, the same is not true for child support. If it seems unfair that a woman has the right to not have a kid, a reminder that its also unfair that its the woman who has to take all the health and life risks to conceive a child
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:49 AM
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To be quite blunt here: if men stopped pursuing women with those traits/lifestyles, there wouldn't be almost any relationships, because the vast majority of women have had those traits/lifestyles, and those traits/lifestyles are acceptable and understandable when single to at least some degree You only say that because you're just like them, they're part of your social routine, so you only see them. Me, i don't see many women like that, my wife isn't like that, because by social circle is about …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:15 AM
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Did they change? If yes, why are you complaining? If not, leave. Need more handholding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:01 AM
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Commitment into a monogamous relationship implies monogamy. It does not imply, however, stop watching porn or going out clubbing. Its easy and simple, you either don't date that person, or make it clear that commitment will only come with different behavior. Trying to change post commitment is secured is not only foolish but also shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:58 AM
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The easiest choice is to not date them? This kind of complaint is the same one that women make to guys who like to go out with friends to get shitfaced, or that watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:53 AM
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>Gets into a commited relationship with hoe >Complains that hoe is hoe. Surprised pikachu moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:39 AM
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The problem is engaging in a relationship while knowing this is usual behavior, and getting mad that usual behavior remains usual. Girl complaining that guy that always watches porn keeps watching porn is shooting herself in the foot in the same way. Girl complaining that steady drinker keeps getting wasted with friends aswell. If you don't like how a person usually acts, then you are a fool for getting into a relationship with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:33 AM
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"Her dress is horrible, doesn't match with her makeup and shoes" "She came to the party with similar clothing because she is jealous of me"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:17 AM
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Everybody likes clubbing. Its fun, Lmao no and its not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:13 AM
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I don't see what going out to dance with friends has to do with morality. But regardless, its the same thing, overlooked in the dating phase due to physical attraction, trying to change after the relation is secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:11 AM
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Thats a pointless comparison, what would you prefer, you, or you, but smarter? But are you ever competing with yourself out there? No. Even in this scenario, getting more intelligence might change someone's behavior. Average you vs nerd you? Who's more attractive? If its a very smart nerdy guy, out of luck, it comes with a bad social perception, so average you is actually more attractive. It may make you less interested to talk to average people, or more interested in talking about more unpopula…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:49 PM
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No, they want physical attractiveness. Halo effect causes attractive people to be more sociable by default, same happens with status. Published research shows that this "fun personality" is always thrown around as super important for women, but when their actual dating preferences are analyzed, its not, instead, like men, its physical attractiveness. Also no, women aren't dumb, they know the difference between a funny person and an intelligent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:04 PM
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And thats not lack of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:57 PM
2

Simply get a partner that is compatible with you and likes to talk to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:47 PM
2

Which isn't OP case anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:46 PM
1

Your quoted a self diagnosed gifted kid subreddit as evidence, lol. Yeah, i'm not having basic talk with someone that thinks they're smart, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:09 PM
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Personality trait, not intelligence, or skill. Nobody needs to be able to be fun or please others to be considered normal or intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:06 PM
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Friend, you really need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Not a single time have i said that high IQ people would seldom experience relationship problems, what i said is that High IQ people would seldom engage in the topic you posted (norms about masculinity, lol) Mr. Bumpus says that intelligent people without social skills are usually nerdy. Mr. Bumpus already said this! They aren't. Ms. Mumpus says that romantic relationships require more social skills than other types of relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:31 PM
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I have a wife, i literally watch her put on makeup. You have no idea what natural makeup means, and how NOT often its used and how unnatural it is, not only that, but how hard it is to pull off. May i remind you that 99% of the time i see my wife without makeup, and this is the face i will find attractive, not the one from the party pictures (what my wife does makeup for). Hop on instagram and see how often you see natural makeup tutorials. No, you will see millions of views on makeups with colo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:26 PM
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But its not necessary for that switch to exist, this is what i'm talking about. Just because you're not socially sucessful, it doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. And its just gaslighting to say that people don't like you because you're awkward and doesn't know how to talk. Nerds talk with each other constantly with no problems. The problem is that nerds don't fit in, not that they are socially stunted. Nerds aren't autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:14 PM
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Why then do you want to date this kind of woman? Woman post sexy pics online, men accepts to date her. Men then gets mad that she keeps doing exactly what she did prior to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:08 PM
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Ms. Mumpus says I am saying that if they do not have social skills, then they will be even worse in a relationship. This is heightened for men in particular for a lot of reasons. No, its not, you're not special. And you can stop projecting. Mr. Bumpus says that just because someone who is smart and lacks social skills is usually a nerd, that does not mean nerds are usually smart. They aren't usually a nerd. High IQ people are a different breed, hence why they are called gifted. Nerds are a stere…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:00 PM
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Sure, but if you're dating someone who post half naked pictures online you're a fool for commiting to her if you wouldn't like to see her doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:55 PM
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Correlation/causation problem here. Intelligent philosophers aren't more attractive than an average doctor. Its not the intelligence, but the status/resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:40 PM
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There are levels to this, my wife knew for years i don't post shit on social media, but would then years later complain that i don't post anything about her. This case is not a dealbreaker, but a lot of people need to be aware that this is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:34 PM
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Who says they don't? I'm saying they tend to struggle more on general social contexts. Also, its wrong to call them nerdy, they are gifted, most nerds are average. You are the one needing the finger puppets. Probably stop projecting on an internet thread helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:32 PM
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This woman never heard of the maxim: A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn’t. A man marries a woman expecting that she won’t change, and she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:25 PM
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Terrible reading comprehension and generalizing skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:23 PM
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High IQ is correlated with overal antisocial behavior (but the extent is overrated) for both men and women, and not just on relationship issues. You're not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:21 PM
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"Wow henry cavill building a PC is so hot, i think i'm into nerdy tech guys "- Women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:13 PM
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So your definition of incel is anybody that can't fuck the moment they want? Hilarious. Incels are men that can't get sex at all, these guys are one step away from suicide. Again, compared to cat ladies, the women are in heaven. Goal post moving is not allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:39 PM
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Because you're hot and he overlooked this in the dating phase. After he secured you, he is now trying to change you into a personality he would actually like. This goes both ways tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:36 PM
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Brother do you know the word COMPARED? We're comparing cat ladies with incels, not average men with average women. Incels are super overrepresented in mental illness and suicidal tendencies. Compared to cat ladies they are in a much worse state. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:30 PM
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A whole lot of pseudoscience above... Nerds often can eloquently talk about the subjects they are interested in, they are still considered socially awkward, because the problem isn't how they talk, but what they talk about and how they present themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:27 PM
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STEM nerds aren't simply "socially unintelligent" more so they are not interested in what most people are. I can handle a conversation pretty well, the problem is that what i talk about is boring for most. When i do magic tricks, suddenly, my "social skills" are now good. Curious how this functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:10 PM
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Why can't OP just be a chaste little nerd? I'm not like the other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:07 PM
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Intelligence does not make someone more sexually attractive. It just increases their overall "value" as a person, which would be useful in the context of dating, for someone who is sufficiently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:57 PM
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The good old sapiosexual nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:55 PM
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Both strategies suck, but one involves much less effort, hence its the one that is chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:41 PM
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Make up is mostly for women to women. Women will keep using makeup even when their partners say they don't like it. The complexity of makeup for women far surpasses men's interest in it. Do men care about the quality of Huda beauty? No, but the woman's friends will all care a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:39 PM
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Key word: compared. Compared to incels, yes, cat ladies are very much at nirvana.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:25 PM
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i'm talking about baby girls vs boys. Socialization of boys is about toughening up, girls are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:13 PM
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Yeah, when males are scarce, harems form, men just aren't selective in nature. But it in theory increases their selective power, its just that for a gender that isn't bothered by pregnancy, focusing on one isn't a good strategy. it may be a far better strategy to understand and identify the demographic they want and can attain Thats the problem, they can't attain the demographic they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:10 PM
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So you are essentially reinstating that fashion is for women to women? Yeah, i know. Hence why i am disagreeing with the guy above. But its not simply "play", women's fashion can be pretty toxic. I'm not really fond of hearing women gossiping each other to shreds of clothing and make up. This is where status comes to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:03 PM
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Makeup transcends "making yourself look good to men" . It's often largely a dynamic of women to women rather than for men. Women will keep extensive interest in makeup even with the disapproval of their partners . Women's fashion sense is largely superfluous to men and moreso a signal of status to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:22 PM
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Women get more support from birth, no effort required. This starts with the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:12 PM
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The only evolutionary strategy that allows males to be selective is the one where they kill the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:00 PM
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Physicall attractiveness is the highest predictor of success in and out for men and women. This is what research says, and no matter how many times women like you deny it, it won't change the facts. There is nothing wrong with wanting to date based on physical attractiveness, its just annoying that women keep denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:57 PM
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Exactly, all of this is very rare and quoting personal experience is not evidence. Women care about looks, just like men do. And its not a wide gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:47 PM
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No? You said that being finantially instable and fit are more important than looks, i said i know a broke and fat guy who sleeps with hotties as a counter. Do you read what you write? All i'm saying is that personal experience does not overthrow the evidence for the average person. The average relationship gap is 3 years, your experience of immense age gap relationships is not representative of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:45 PM
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I know a broke fat guy who sleeps with hotties. Thus, women don't care about financial stability either. Learn statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:28 PM
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Cold approach works if you're attractive Otherwise don't bother. Get someone in a bad day and you may get security called for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:23 AM
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Published research says otherwise. Looks first parameter for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:21 AM
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If it were inherent to human biology, then all individuals, regardless of culture, would have that biological need or instinct that drives them to choose a partner solely for their status or the money in their wallet. If men being physically stronger than women was inherent to human biology then all men regardless of culture would be stronger than women. This is not the case, thus, men being stronger is a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:52 PM
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Women complaining about being emotional dumps gotta the most ironic shit ever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:04 PM
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The people who are struggling with dating, incels and whatnot, already are sexless work ants, but they keep trying to be accepted on a system that hates them. On top of being a sexless work ant, you are trying to lick the boot that is stomping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:12 PM
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I don't see why it can't happen. Feminism changed millenia of history of what would constitute "true female nature", yet it didn't cause any major problems to them, quite the contrary. Being tied to these "values" like family and legacy being a denial of human nature is like saying women after feminism are denying their nature, which should likewise be family, motherhood and raising good children. Yet somehow they get more out of it, not less. Btw Im not a fan of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:07 PM
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You already are one, but on top of being sexless, you work more and get scorned and despised as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:04 PM
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It's not. Because if one improves to become a masterful rubicks cubik nerd, he won't get any women as a result. RP dictates a specific path of improvement, one that makes you "Chad". This is an improvement tied to dating. One could be Chad by actually decreasing his quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:03 PM
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The black flair does not specify a pill type, it's a custom flair. I can put whatever name I want in there. There are people who use the black flair to say "no pill". And void = empty, just a fancy way to say that I take no pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:59 PM
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Void =\= black. Void is empty, the pill I take has no content. It's just a fancy way to describe I took none of the pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:57 PM
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Why is it only applicable to men? True female nature is about having kids, yet women are for a century growing out of it more and more. Even when the biological clock ticks harder and harder post 30, more women are not having kids regardless. Or they are without a man, by getting donor sperm and being single mothers. Voluntary celibacy would be impossible and only for "anomalies" if that was the case. And I'm not even advocating for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:55 PM
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There is no solution, what you can do is simply not self destruct while pursuing something that makes you miserable. If one cannot become rich, appreciate what you have instead of crying for what you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:50 PM
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Complain all you want. Improving for dating? Only if you hate yourself. You either accept to suffer while retaining your own self worth Or keep suffering trying to get approved by a society that hates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:27 AM
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Void means empty. Does that answer your question? Color of empty makes no sense. I don't believe in genetic determinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:09 AM
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I have a wife. I'm not a blackpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:54 AM
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By self improving for years, reaching 30 after geting LMS and (delusionally) date hot 20 year olds? Sure, not a lot of commitment at all. Redpill is a praxeology meant to educate men on intersexual dynamics, thats it, what those men do or what they recommend others do is purely their own ideas as individuals. But redpills are talking about this now. Undesrtand that this does not exist in a vacuum, RP will kill itself if it works. Because it makes the market more competitive by default. Each RP o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:53 AM
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Irrelevant to the discussion. I see you're not really interested in elaborating further other than making up statements that even if they were true you could use your brain for 2 seconds to realize why. Its about internet and people being truthful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:47 AM
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Deleted content? The user deleted his account, the comment is still there, with multiple people agreeing below it. Keep denying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:32 AM
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Incorrect, both men and women exhibit their first criteria for a succesful date as physical attractiveness. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date was physical attractiveness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5640931_Sex_Differences_in_Mate_Preferences_Revisited_Do_People_Know_What_They_Initially_Desire_in_a_Romantic_Part…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:31 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PlusSize/comments/p29c13/comment/h8j0o4b/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:29 AM
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Women don’t screech at men and demand men adjust their height and breast size preferences. Body positivity movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:25 AM
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Physical attractiveness is the first criteria for men and women. So she'd choose the attractive hermit gamer most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:22 AM
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Become more physically attractive. (This isn't the same as going to gym) Other than that? Probably none. But there is one that does not make your bargaining power lower at the expense of your precious time: Checking out of the dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:12 AM
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I'm not saying this will "better" the dating market in a significant way, but it won't make it worse. The MGTOW movement has an emphasis in pumping and dumping, so , no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:08 AM
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Not really, it would be equivalent to say "Why do i need a woman when i have a fleshlight" The problem is that few men say this, and this is why the bargaining power is and will keep being inbalanced. Giving up pussy is too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:07 AM
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Do the same as feminism did for women: Men should be independent of women, men don't need women to live. In short, quit dating, quit doing stuff in your life to get sex. Until men start to actually increasing their value by REDUCING supply, the market will only get more competitive with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:39 AM
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The competition is still bigger, i.e, you're still less likely to get a young one to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:36 AM
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"Dating for the average man sucks. Only chad gets to hit. Thus, become chad" So Dating is hard for average guy --> Women standards are high and want chad--> Become chad--> Increase in supply of chad makes women standard raise more--> Harder for the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:32 AM
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https://youtu.be/45m-fYQTBn4?si=cGiY9L47aW0YBO3-&t=420
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:30 AM
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Your experience is irrelevant. Actual dating practices dictate that 3 years is the average age gap. 30 yr old - 20 yr old is a rare occurence. 20yo dudes would be sleeping with 18yo women yet this doesn't happen as much Because a minority of young men is banging a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:25 AM
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Passport bro is actual dating advice. However, do it quick, competition will only increase with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:23 AM
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The woman is just showing the truth of the game to you, and you refuse to listen. There is NO PATH where you will have the bigger bargaining power if the only thing you do is to "improve" for women and try to think of yourself as a catch when the last 100 years of history are preaching women that they don't need a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:22 AM
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Yep, this is just Red pill cope "Improve yourself and date younger women" is just nonsense. Yeah wait until you're 30 after working your ass out to try and date: Women that don't want you; Women that are getting rare as time goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:20 AM
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Of course it will, but this isn't an argument to say i can't criticize it because people will have different thoughts. I can talk about "Democrats" by how the democrat politicians are acting NOW, whatever some democrat guy thinks or does differently is irrelevant to the bigger fish with a bigger audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:07 AM
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And you're here wasting time with me! Take a seat!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:05 AM
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This is appeal to purity. Red pill NOW is a far cry from whatever BS it was 10 years ago. Its basically a midground between what is known as "Tradcon" and "Oldschool RP" This is the RP of today. https://www.youtube.com/@hoe_math Guy says exactly what the "old school RP" says, and mix it up with social commentary and how we should make society great again, fight feminism and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:04 AM
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Sounds like typical feminist excuse whenever we point out actual feminist practice. "Look at the books from 100 years ago! Its about EQUALITY! Those aint true feminists"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:50 PM
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Then check out. This RP guy here: https://www.youtube.com/@hoe_math really likes to talk about wide societal issues, how men are fucked, and how society should go back to "older ways". He is a RP with a lot of reach. I'm not interested in talking about whatever idealized version of RP exists in each individuals mind, you can't even discuss anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:48 PM
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Your mind probably exists because of placebo, because there is 0 content in what comes out of your fingers. Read your first post and try to find any argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:46 PM
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Women are hypergamous and entitled? Just improve yourself to become exactly what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:45 PM
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They claim to enlighten men to "make their lives better" and "oppose feminism" and value "True masculine values" which are also politically loaded (such as being a provider) trying to use science and psychology More like a whole lot of bro science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:42 PM
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Unfocus your life from dating. Use your money for yourself, do not pursue women, and i say it not just for LT, but also short term. Do not abide to "masculine" or "traditional" values if you don't want to. If you don't have ambitions for yourself, find a work and do only the enough to sustain yourself and your hobbies. Don't have kids, kids are good for the state. Work your way to become more independent from the state in the legal limit. This example doesn't work everywhere, but as an example: …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:41 PM
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Funny how common is this answer. Either appeal to purity and "history" Or just "you're wrong" . Probably because it hits too close to home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:35 PM
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Their advice only makes it harder. RP advice is to become more competitive on a competition they themselves says is not bearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:34 PM
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You're so butthurt you even manufactured a phrase that is not in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:32 PM
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Science, technology and industry that were vastly more advanced in the west compared to other countries, which made said countries to become colonized. The founding fathers, Smith, John locke, all individualists, and those became more numerous during the enlightenment. Every single step of the Anglo individualistic philosophy promoted science and technology, its it a coincidence that Europe pulled ahead of Asia and the middle east(who were more advanced prior), still in their own "Traditional va…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:30 PM
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Thats not what the RP say, RPs are actively crying about how the system is broken and it should change, and to make "men's life's better". How feminism is bad, and yada yada. If it was that selfish, it wouldn't tap into those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:09 PM
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If its your goal to improve as a person, for your own self, not for dating, go for it. If not, no. And if you actually wants to fight the system you believe there is, then you should stop feeding it. If the system has failed you, why should you work for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:08 PM
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No. I am saying that people have the capability of ignoring what they are attracted to and reward moral behavior instead of lizard brained caused attraction when they pick who they date. I do it so it is possible. You're neurodivergent yourself, can't use you as a parameter to everybody. BTW, you can't, really. Can't make sexual attraction arise from morality. A man will not go for a nobel prize 60 year old women, even if its "the right thing". This system would be naturally selected out pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:48 PM
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but if they renounce it, or simply do the bare minimum in order to afford an apartment and a gaming console/internet, then it will create big gaps in a couple of decades. Thats exactly what they should do? If your dream is to have a 1950s traditional family, you were born in the wrong time, adapt. Its pointless for a man to just try and "become better" in the eyes of women so he can "be worthy" of a family. To do that you would need to become much more impressive since women now can afford just …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:44 PM
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I disagree with you. Those financial issues you mention affect men more than women, because men are judged for their financial ability/wealth to a much greater extent. Women still need to feed themselves. Wait, are you saying, then, that men are more jaded now? That does not help your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:34 PM
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I shared with you that all ethnicities tend to have race preferences when dating. unless you believe that everybody is racist against everybody, including their own race (which doesn't mean anything), or its not racism. "I don't wanna be friends with Asians, that's not racist. I just don't like them, it's not racist though". If your reason to do so is based on a sentiment of superiority and asians inferiority, yes. But if you don't want asian friends because you don't mesh well with asian cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:32 PM
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Brother, reasons for jaded are many for everyone: Can't afford a house Loss of purchasing power Excessive social media usage Lack of friends/socializing Terrible diet and sedentary lifestyle Drug abuse. Being jaded with dating is like very low on the list. Your level of satisfaction with life is always dictate more about the things you actually need to survive. People nowadays will reach 30 super jaded regardless. Single women will be just as jaded as those with sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:27 PM
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You are pulling this out of yours. Reason for jadedness extends far beyond dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:32 PM
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Counter arguments to what? I'm telling you that even non white people are biased towards white people. Would be enough for you to realize this is not racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 02:30 PM
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What this means is: If society wants to change it will change that's kinda obvious. I also don't think that darwinism works because no moral system is better than the other, only different. Nothing preventing history to go back to old moral systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:25 PM
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Yeah but since morality is subjective, people can just "Nuh uh" you for their reasons. Also, more moral systems aren't necessarily objectively better, sometimes they cause more loss in terms of overall quality of life, economy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:19 PM
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Quoting worn out "broscience" isn't gonna do much here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:17 PM
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According to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:12 PM
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You keep dodging the argument. The people that believe and want initial attraction aren't all influenced by ROM com movies. Neither they need to, sometimes they were already like that, and rom com resonated more with them. Out because you will keep running circles here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:12 PM
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Individualism was what caused the west to dominate in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:09 PM
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What is the "in expense of society" that the current dating landscape causes?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:08 PM
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The current dating landscape is considered moral (and more moral than previous ones). So?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:06 PM
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It's not possible to sustain population growth without the density increasing, too much land and all the problems that come up with lack of density (such as lack of security) .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:05 PM
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Don't pretend to do a 180. You're the one who said those different from you were influenced by ROM com movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:03 PM
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Developed countries(those where the problem you listed are more prevalent) have more population density, not less. The only economic problem so far is lack of birth rates affecting pension systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:53 AM
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Funny information for you: The dating market, for whites and non whites, show a preference for dating whites. White women/men receive the most messages from all ethnicities. Also, not wanting to date X race is not racism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:50 AM
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Birth rate is already decreasing even with people pairing up. 2 women reproduced for every man in history. Where is the collapse?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:48 AM
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Or they are just neurotyoical people who respond to initial stimuli better than delayed ones. No need to virtue signal because people are different from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:44 AM
1

There is no morality or immorality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:43 AM
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Bringing morality to matters of taste is pointless. What is "desirable behavior"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:42 AM
6

Quite a few women in this thread said they would not like to hear that there was not initial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:37 AM
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The fact that I'm not convinced this is bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:26 AM
2

Neither am I into empowered man-ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:25 AM
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Your qualities are not being a bad person? I totally expect someone to say they cheat when they are talking about relationships right? Where are the feminine traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:53 AM
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Curious because men and women alike say this more and more. Modernity, get a seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:48 AM
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Halo effect destroys fairy tale excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:47 AM
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https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/weexperimentonhumanbeings.html Experiment 2
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:46 AM
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"handsome is no match for persistence" Shit got dark pretty quick. So again, can you match my Papa's standard, men these days No reason to when women don't match mama standard. You wanted to break the gender roles, but only want your side to be allowed to? Enjoy the unmanly man while we enjoy the unfeminine women. Equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:44 AM
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Show me an example where the said ‘virgin’ wasnt being a piece of shit https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1g0jktm/comment/lr96hgb/ Also, why does it matter if he's being an asshole? His value is being tied to how many holes he can make wet or penetrate. The fact that asshole = no sex implies men are expected to get sex to be someone good. This is also wrong, assholes get sex plenty. Specially criminal assholes. Mainly by other men. Women will assume homosexuality when they get rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:36 AM
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Women aren't demisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:19 PM
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Uh, no, men's sexuality is not demonized because of that, instead: Rape, sexual assault, domestic violence, and creepy behavior like catcalling. Men's sexuality regarding "wanting sex" is very much not demonized unless you are on new age feminist groups. Men and women will shame Men for not having sex. "No bitches?" "This is why you haven't felt a woman's touch" "Enjoy not getting laid" "you ain't getting any pussy acting like this". Men are called gay for having physical appearance standards. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:42 PM
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Pre selection AKA mate choice copying. Incels are by default less attractive even if they only know this about them. Negative feedback loop. This is why "just go ask her out" doesn't work for guys who are struggling and get rejected often.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:20 PM
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No, at all, it's often a blessing if she is attractive to you and not others, less competition. Relevant to the video you posted: The women on my circle care about this They will usually dissect all the visible traits from the men and ask opinions to each other. Being single for a long time.is reason for suspicion. It's called mate choice copying This is why men at relationships are seen as more attractive, and men who gets rejected by everyone, are seen as less.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:16 PM
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Understand what chasing means. Also your experience isn't the experience of everyone and also isn't all true either. See: rich guy gets approached by women on his level but he wants the hot girl 10 years older than him, he attracts her and he uses him for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:49 PM
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No, proximity attraction exists. It's not going to make someone ugly beautiful, but it happens for average people. No glowups needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 02:00 PM
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If you're talking about a date, sure. But if not, BS. Otherwise friends and coworkers wouldn't fall for each other after months together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:41 AM
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Incels ain't rich. They would not be complaining if they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:26 AM
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Nonsense. If I don't get Brooke Shields I am not settling, lol. You can get a woman that is attractive to you with more compatible traits, not necessarily the most attactive. If the women you're attracting aren't as hot as you want, just stay single. Don't be delusional that you can just chase a hot girl into wanting you, if you are chasing, they already ain't showing interest. At best you get settled for, which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:20 AM
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Looksmatch exist. It's just people that have the same level of physical attractiveness. But people aren't forced to date their looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:10 PM
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Why should a man pick the most attractive available? Disregarding compatibility and lifestyle? The women that flock to you are more likely to be compatível than those who don't. And you can at least find out because they won't reject you, so you can vet properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:00 PM
1

How can women overcome their stronger urges to have kids but men can't over one higher libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:55 PM
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You avoided the question. Why men can't overcome their biological urges but women can? I'm not talking abou libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:39 PM
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Lower libido = not wanting to have sex. Not wanting to have kids however, it's a whole different story. Women are on a biological clock, the desperation kicks in fast for old women close to menopause without kids. In fact, at 30 lots of women already get this urge. Yet they still do it go on single and working deep into 40s, and it gets more and more common. It's kinda pathetic and nonsensical to suggests only women can go against their biology, because muh libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:01 PM
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We're assuming that in else have nothing to lose (i.e low status, ). So they would be sent first yes. But don't actually do that. We don't need more wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:57 AM
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Romans used barbarians to fight barbarians for centuries before they rebelled. If they want to defect and are too sympathetic to potential enemies, I reckon they simply will avoid conscription or join the enemy right away. By the way. I don't think we should do that tho. We're past the point of needing wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:42 AM
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Eh, no, the conquerors were the ones with high status. There guys will often die of disease or starvation in the the way to the battle. The meat shields will tank the enemy while the actual fighters flank and win the fight. The Romans would throw rows of barbarians at the enemy before the legions engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:39 AM
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Alcohol, drugs, tobbaco, music = always existed. (music is bad now?) Television existed in the supposed "golden age" post WW2, where, in the USA, vast majority of men married and working, affordable housing, and having lots of kids. What would be not coping ? Going to war? Hunting animals? Back to monke?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:35 AM
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Well duh young people want to fuck young people. And if they don't get this opportunity, they will carry this desire into their older age.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:26 AM
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It's impossible for mating preferences to change in this time span genetically. When you analyze hunter gatherer societies, the mating preference is still physical qualities. The generic imprint we have are from humans who reproduced young and died young. Physical indicators of health, fertility, and strength are all more important. That's without considering sexual selection, where the preferences can go against adaptativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:52 PM
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And what does this have to do with biology? You guys are saying here that men can't stop chasing because biology, yet woman also have the urges to reproduce, a strong one to have children, yet they managed to control it and get into the market single. No amount of laws would be enough if biology couldn't be overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:46 PM
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Another day another RP nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:10 PM
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Considering the short lifespan and child mortality rates of ancient human beings, physical traits are far more important. Indicatives of health and better genes. You don't need much intelligence to live in groups, most non intelligent animals can do that. And this is what research shows, women and men date according to physical attractiveness first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:58 PM
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Sex robots will help, we just need to not shame men for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:47 PM
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How did then, women managed to do it? To let go of their source of income, their drive to have kids, to be independent, and work?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:47 PM
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It was hard to convince anti-feminist women during the last century that they should be independent from men. Since men were their literal bread baskets, yet, despite threat of actually being homeless, it succeeded. Sttrugle will always happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:41 PM
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These kind of guys were usually sent to war on the Frontline to die. Life was never good to a reject. The old times were only truly good for most men, in SOME places, post WW2.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:40 PM
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Lol. Have you ever been obese? It's akin to drug addiction, your body will fight you if you try to quit. Anyway, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:37 PM
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Yeah and not everyone will escape obesity, but telling them to try isn't wrong. Again, it's better to be lonely but with time to appreciate yourself. Than be lonely and keep humiliating yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:26 PM
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When I gave up chasing, my life only got better. Later on I found someone that truly liked me, but I wasn't with that expectation when I gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:23 PM
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Because you could not see other things to make you happy. The men that are chasing are just as lonely as the ones that aren't, just that the other use their time to find happiness elsewhere, instead of humiliating themselves when they're repeatedly rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:19 PM
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They say this when they want to redeem themselves about their hoe life. It's not a positive quote, it's her saying she grew out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:07 PM
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Both men and women have reproduction as biological imperative. Yet women can be volcels without much difficulty. In fact women are just reproducing less and less since they got to the market. Seems that this isn't such a big deal for them, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:02 PM
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It's better than him keep chasing something(women) that has already told him they're not interested. One he will be both sad, frustrated, and wasting time. The other he will be occasionally sad. Chasing won't make you any less lonely, you will feel even shitties of yourself when you see nobody wants you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:53 PM
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The ones that are selling bullshit are the dating coaches, To and PUA grifters that sell courses to men that can't get relationships. No one can profit by men choosing not to engage with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:40 PM
4

Why are the women that will show interest in you, bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:37 PM
4

That's kind the point of OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:33 PM
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Women are in the "I don't need men" for a century now, seems to be working fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:23 PM
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You can improve yourself by going with the flow. Take control of what you can, learn more of what you want. The only thing that you are forced to do in life even if you don't like it, is having a job and the olbigations that come with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:17 PM
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Leaving the dating scene will make them more undesirable due to age. Self improvement with the final goal to date = ticking time bomb of frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:14 PM
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Keep doing it. Women are a century telling themselves to stop being dependent of a man and marriage and they get more and more power, more and more career success. While you are still shackled to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:12 PM
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Nonsense, women only chase the man they want. The motto of today's era for women is that they don't need any men. It's about independence and empowerment. Many women are single by choice, and also not having any sex by choice. Men dread this, women can do it easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:09 PM
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Based and misanthropy pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:04 PM
3

More like MSTOW (men sent their own way) Not bad per se, but I laugh how they mgtows think that if they do this, women and society will come crawling back. Like a hobo standing in front of a Store that sells Porsches, and telling them they will not buy it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:03 PM
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I said the same thing in the PUA thread. It's not easy, but is preferable than keep forcing yourself into constant frustration. We know it's biology, but you can't shame or beg your way into having sex with you. Get a sex doll, or buy escorts. Then live your life for yourself. Think about it: No women wants you, so you have to just slave yourself into trying to convince them through money or status or mumbo jumbo pick up tricks like PUA? Why work yourself for someone that does not want you? Or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:57 PM
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Sorry, but being accused of something I didn't do after sharing my experience, again, triggers the fuck out of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:13 PM
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While the woman chasing us, she got close and I was always in front of my mother, this is where she claimed I hit her. And my mother asked me if I was sure I didn't hit her there. I said yes I'm sure, I did not hit her, she believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:02 PM
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I know what i did, precisely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:42 PM
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I didn't say it didn't happen because there was no evidence, i said i was falsely accused, and that there were no evidences of PA, so to the state and my mother, it was her word against mine. Of course is a fucking giant trigger, do you think i take lightly being falsely accused of a crime? Do you think its nice going to court as a suspect? This shit lives rent free on my head. Holy fucking shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:41 PM
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Night? It was day, my mother was bothered with loud noises on the neighbors, and went there to complain, the woman lashed out at my mother, my mother ran back home, and the woman started hitting the door multiple times. My mother called the police, and the woman went away, we used this time to get out of home. The woman chased us, cussing my mother, saying she would get her The police arrived, we went to the office, my mother filled a case against her. One week later, i found out that the woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:38 PM

There is NO evidence to be found if the marks of the supposed crime already expired. Such was my case, since the accusation, it was said that there was no sign of physical assault, but that it happened. It was literally my word vs hers. And such is the case of sexual assault. These crimes often leave no mark at all. If you can't know that your children are guilty of something, EVEN THE STATE will presume they are innocent. So how the fuck can you even think of not believing your kids? Any parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:34 PM
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You absolute imbecile, in my MOTHERS POV it was her word against mine. This is what i'm talking about this, because THERE ARE NO EVIDENCE TO BE ANALYZED. The crime didn't fucking happen ,i said since the beggining that the accusation was FALSE!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:28 PM
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This is exactly it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:27 PM
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What part of "False accusation" didn't you understand? There was no evidence to be found, because i didn't do it, you know, crimes that didn't happen don't leave any evidence. But since you have the reading comprehension of an illiterate, you couldn't understand that, contrary to what the woman i originally responded though, there were "no facts to be analyzed" What my mother knew was only two things Me denying it happened (because it didn't happen) No evidence of PA to be found. So, what you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:26 PM
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I was falsely accused because i didn't do it. Thats it. What i'm saying is that there was NOTHING else for me to do than simply deny it, because i did not do it. She just came up with a fake story and said "He hit me", but there was no hit marks, obviously, because it didn't happen. So i rebbuted with my own story explaining that i did not hit her. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:07 PM
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Since your work no differently than chatgpt, you can't really come up with once your script fails. You don't even know what we were talking about, hence why you're so lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:02 PM
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First she says she would look at the facts, then after she says she would believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:22 AM

I'm really hoping that most of the women that say they would believe or be inclined to believe that their son did it, are rage baiting. Because if not, than i just want to check out of this shit. "Sisterhood" over your own children is nothing short of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:35 AM
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