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"don't do gym selfies"! Meanwhile Chad and Stacy with sweaty gym selfies: 999 likes I have a motto that is: Unless you are on a place littered with dead bodies on the floor, caring more about the ambient, lighting and "mood" of the photo means that the person occupying that photo is least interesting thing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:59 AM
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Women already tried to do this by pretending to be a man on tinder. They got frustrated by the lack of matches. If you photo is clear, what will carry you through is not the angles or poses, it's the organism filling that space. Women already know this. Sometimes they get advice from men to "dress feminine" while pretty girl is getting all the attention with sweaty gym selfie.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:53 AM
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There is an army of people that say otherwise. In the end it doesn't matter. The clothing isn't the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:06 AM
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An autistic woman posted a TikTok video saying that it was super hard to find someone as an autist lady. She got hit on by the entirety of the population of china and took the video down. Later she posted a video addressing this, she then said she already had a boyfriend. But even if she had not, she wouldn't want to date with someone starting online.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:03 AM
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Another victim of blonde chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:55 PM
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Lil bro got mercury pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:52 PM
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Raw meat is very appetizing to look at. In comparison, I find raw chicken disgusting, cook that asap. Red color awakens the thirst for blooooood!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:50 PM
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It's always super funny to see vanilla dating advice. Guys having trouble finding dates, online for exame, will get advices like: No mirror photos, put on better clothing, women likes suits, do that! Then a guy does this, like the one Asian guy someone one posted here a few days ago, and people start saying he is overdressed by using suits. I really don't know if there exists a collectice hivemind that simply refuses to acknowledge that some people are just ugly and old, they sooner blame the po…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:42 PM
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Chads and Stacies being bad people is just envy, they need to have some bad qualities to offset their beauty, so that the average/ugly person feels better about being honest/intelligent/honest... If they are just normal or good in other aspects, it triggers an inferiority complex response "They can't be all that, they can't be all that" its the bruised ego showing. In reality, there are pretty people that are good, intelligent and honest, and ugly people that are dumb, dishonest and bad. Its a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 12:13 PM
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Is self improvement a new religion? What if he is trying to be a basement dweller? What does that change?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:58 AM
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The evidence is that you can't say one person is more suicidal than the other because they attempted more, since the first died. It's a flawed argument, a fallacy, the conclusion does not follow from the premises. Non sequitur What you're saying is that someone who has failed at physics likes physics more than someone someone who passed, because the first attended more classes until they passed. Ever seen those documentaries on people who survive jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge? I’ve never se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 06:25 PM
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Lady, if someone fails suicide its evident they are going to attempt more than someone who succeded in the first attempt. Person A and B tried to overdose with a medication C that has 20% chance of death Person A failed 3 times and succeeded on the 4th Person B got it on the first try Does that imply that person A is more suicidal than person B? Of course not, the only way for you to know this is IF person B had failed the attempt and then gave up afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:45 PM
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I'm just stating that women actually try to commit more suicide than men. It's just that they "fail more" because they use less dangerous methods If you fail more, you are going to attempt more, it does not imply that you want to attempt more than the person who succeeded first, i.e it does not imply you're more suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:41 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763412001510?via%3Dihub Same thing in this article, but the definition of neuroticism is Measures of N consist of items referring to negative affect, including anxiety, irritability, anger, worry, frustration, self-consciousness, sensitivity to criticism, reactivity, hostility, and vulnerability (Costa and McCrae, 1992, Eysenck and Eysenck, 1975, Ormel, 1983). Hence, N is widely defined as the tendency to experience negative affect, espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 02:37 PM
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If you framed this question to "Not sharing your personal life on social media" you would have had a lot of better responses. All my social media usage is anonymous here on reddit, mostly to look for solutions to hardware/software problems, sites for books. And arguing. Limiting the usage to such an extreme degree will just be objectively harmful, even if its 1 in 10000 i've saved some reddit posts that contain useful stuff for my life. And reddit is one of the few websites that you can actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 07:09 PM
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Checkmate, too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:40 PM
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He shared his experience and you just said "no, that didn't happen" If you're not a troll, I hope you are not neurotyoical, otherwise you gotta be the most dense person I've seen in all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:39 PM
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And women that are ashamed of their sexuality due to religious upbringing should just learn it, right? No real problem with that upbringing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:35 PM
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If by cooking you mean basic meals that everybody needs to know, yes. But sometimes "can you cook" means "can you cook well?" like making recipes and making tasty elaborate food, that is not required.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:52 PM
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"Plenty" yeah this is your opinion, confidence is located on the extraversion spectrum. I rather trust accurate definitions than your opinion. An introvert can be the life of the party at a social gathering provided it's small and they run in circles with fewer strangers. Now you're just trolling me. Look, if you're projecting your behavior into introversion, i tell you, you are not introverted. And confident introverts absolutely are extremely desirable and in fact a lot of women actually have …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:23 PM
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Sorry but I rather follow the psychological model that clearly states that shy and timidness are opposed to confidence rather than entertain your wishful thinking. Shyness implies being uncomfortable with social interaction due to fear of judgement, opposed to confidence. Timidness is synonym with diffidence, the opposite of confidence. It's someone who has self doubts and thus is reluctant to show their talents. Both of these are on the scale of introversion, not all introverted people are timi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:35 AM
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Women are picky when considering casual sex partners, which by definition entails no investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:16 PM
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Wrong. Confidence is extraversion. Hence why people can see when you're confident. If you're shy, you can't be confident. If you're timid, you can't be confident. By the way, personalities are in large part acquired, so I don't know what you are talking as if acquired traits can't be part of personality. One of the earliest measures of self-confidence used a 12-point scale, ranging from a minimum score characterizing someone who is "timid and self-distrustful, shy, never makes decisions, self-ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:01 PM
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Goalpost move denied. You said that "women give bad advice" is a lie. You got debunked, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:01 PM
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Women do give bad advice, its already published research. When asked what their priorities, women mention personality over looks and money, but looks are the most important. So if you were to ask what a woman wants, they would say "personality" and you would fail because what they say and what they want is different. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:42 PM
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No, you get the options and decide they are not good. If i'm buying chocolate at a market, i can't claim i have no options because none of the chocolates are good for my taste. Again, just like a company complaining that they can't find good workers even though the market is saturated with them. I'm married btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 01:54 PM
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Women are not complaining about lack of options, they are complaining because they are not satisfied with the options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:05 AM
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My dude, you have to show that small penis men are compensating in whatever way whatsoever before asking me to give any explanation. Let alone that these guys are more aggressive. You aren't willing this correlation into reality. Either show proof or bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 12:00 AM
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Marx? Add that the 20th too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:44 PM
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So since it's the same false correlation as the small member, both are not okay, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:43 PM
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She lives in the house that needs bills paid, she is not above paid work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:35 PM
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Correlation with what? Small dick energy is used basically for "he does something i don't like" And you haven't shown the correlation anyway. Speaking of correlation, if this is the justification, then there is a certain... correlation, relating a certain demographic that makes up 13% of something but do 52% of something, very popular correlation among white supremacists, is it ok to use it, or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:32 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:29 PM
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Wow, based popper.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:28 PM
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Sarcasm. If what the woman above said was true, then being a friend of a woman would basically guarantee you a partner, but that is not observed. You can enjoy the treatment of someone without feeling the need to date them. You woman basically do your own version of AWALT when it is to talk about "personality"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:54 PM
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Hence why its basically impossible to be good friends with a woman, because they will always try to date you, smh....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:34 PM
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I could also rage at you because you show tremendous lack of understanding of something you are talking about, but i like to conserve my strong emotions for more appropriate occasions. BB, Application reviewer, i could never know of the hardships you go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:30 PM
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The one who is crying a river and raging at me is you. I made an analogy, you decided to rage at me apparently because you run a business or you review applications. None of what you say is going to change that one is having a much harder time than the other. Nothing personal, just business.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:22 PM
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True, i will post an instagram reel with my iphone 16 pro max, these applicants don't know how hard is the life of the average company with excess of applications. Check your privilege, indebted qualified people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:20 PM
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Date for intents of sex and for intent of LTR there are tons of applicants all the same. One is just more numerous than the other. And i guess you agree with the point then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:17 PM
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Companies telling how hard it is to find good applicants while the same applicants are drowning in debt and running on antidepressants...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:15 PM
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They can date and have sex, they can just ask for sex on any OLD and get sex. Both cases there are tons of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:11 PM
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Marx when popper asks when is capitalism going to fall: "Any second now"- Repeated for more than a century, and counting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:09 PM
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Sorry i'm not thrilled to hear about how hard it is for a company that isn't concerned to not starve. And thats from someone who has reviewed applications in the past. The balance is obvious, too much offer implies companies are at advantage, too much demand, workers at advantage. The most common scenario is the first. Seethe all you want, guess i touched a nerve.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:08 PM
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Speak for yourself, not for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:03 PM
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Every day another windmill bait thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:18 PM
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As much as it is hard for a company to hire someone when the market is saturated with workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 04:03 PM
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My reply to you is still there. That's my engagement with you on that thread. The person that deleted the comments os another user, and he mass deleted it everywhere. I made multiple comments in that thread and they are all there. Stop lying I'm just calling you on your BS. Have a nice day lying again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:58 PM
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It’s a pretty strong probability when weighing out the different theories. Show me the calcs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:52 PM
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Nome of my comments were removed, they were from another user. You really aren't ashamed of lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:33 PM
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Consider a stereotypical example of a man with a small penis who compensates by buying a huge truck and putting it on huge rims and lifting it up to make it look even bigger and then Have you actually looked it up to see if the stereotype holds any truth? Why you need to attach some anatomic trait to something that is a behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:20 AM
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4 comments below and you said "if their good men, then they wouldn't be virgins at 25" Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 09:56 AM
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Well to answer a question of something you haven't experienced, it's good for you to do research before dismissing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:09 PM
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The famous obesity problem that affects only women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:56 PM
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This is pure speculation. There is no conclusive evidence to why they were small. For all we know, they could simply be because the focus of the sculpture is the perfection of the body as a whole, putting less emphasis on genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:56 PM
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Bitch means female dog. Your analogy just collapsed. I dick a like for like analogy and you can see how the addition of small is unnecessary when "dick" is already an insult
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:59 PM
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"incels without hate" was shutdown without violent remarks. The red pill sub was quarantined likewise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:57 PM
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Big dick emergy - good Dick -bad Why the need to add the small?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:54 PM
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Most normal people can understand body language of sadness and anger from their SO's. Men know when their partner is angry, what they don't know is why. This is where the mind reading part comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:49 PM
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To help the ladies here: Wife is mad at husband Husband asks "What is the problem ?" "Nothing" Now husband is confused trying to figure out what he did or what happened that she is mad at. This is where the mind reading comes from. The answer given is "He should know what he did that made me upset".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:47 PM
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Most people are able to perceive body language of sadness and anger, babies do it. The problem isn't in detecting they are mad or sad, the problem comes to know WHY. And this is the part that the mind reading comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:44 PM
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'bitch energy" is not a thing. Do you see it as a popular term? The word dick can be used as an insult much like bitch. This isn't the point, the point is that small dicks energy is a shaming term that associates a body part with a certain type of behavior. The analogue of it would be "small ass energy", but this is not used.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:38 PM
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Your anedotic claim was responded by another anedotic claim and then you responded with another. This is what usually happens when you make generalizations from anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:35 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/shorts/FSMUGmGhy0o Now you've seen it. There is more if you use Google.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:33 PM
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Female erotic content is simply less numerous to a large degree. Even when you look at popular types of female erotica, for each one of them, there are thousands of porn videos for a male audience. Because women have lower demand for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:27 PM
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So you have only anedotic evidence and complains about anedotic evidence? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:20 PM
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You haven't, but this here indicates that you would, lol https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1gg86kc/virgin_men/lupnv53/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:17 PM
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This question was previously asked here One of the answers https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1gg86kc/virgin_men/lupnv53/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:15 PM
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You answered nothing. Yes everybody knows that adding a word can change it. The whole point is why is it ok to shame another for having small dicks? Hence why I said , what os the counterpart to bad bitch energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:14 PM
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Where is the 32 year old virgin short guy when you need him. Come here and tell your story, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:53 PM
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What is the counterpart to bad bitch energy and when is it used to shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:50 PM
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There's a video of a guy vlogging his trip to Japan(not a passport bro) One japanese girl gets close to him and starts saying "fuck me, fuck me". Even handsome guys don't get this so explicitly. Another guy went to a club in Osaka and got to kiss a Korean model. Idk about you but that looks like top 5% treatment for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:44 PM
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And you agreed with them. Since the claim was "Men far outdoor women..." And you said "studies show this is true ". You agreed and now is just backpedaling
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:47 PM
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The duality of Men lack socials skills and how to talk to women Men are more manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 08:16 PM
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You won't find many single men in prison. Just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:02 PM
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The "be confident, be outgoing" is advice given by women to men. So they are shooting themselves in the foot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:56 PM
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I was a shy guy that listened to this "confidence advice" and it almost fucked it up entirely. My now wife stopped mid date for me to quit the act because what she liked in me was the shy and reserved personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:54 PM
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So here is a thing Most common advice given to men to attract women: "How do i attract women?" "Be confident! Women like confidence!" Disregards the fact that confidence is a personality trait. Therefore, this advice essentially reads as: "If you don't have certain personality trait, fake it" Then, after the faking: "Why men fake their personalities?" I almost fucked up with this with my wife while dating. I was looking for advice and i got this same advice, be confident, be outgoing, blah blah …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:49 PM
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I've already answered yes to this 3 times. If the father agrees, the mother can give it up to adoption, if he has rights severed, the mother can give it up to adoption. I think i'm the one being trolled here. Or even if she gives up parental rights to the child legally, do you believe she should still being forced to pay child support? Yes, if you don't want to take care of the kid, your problem, you still need to support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 08:38 PM
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Of course i would be in favor, but not just the mother, but the father aswell. Mother commits crime against child --> Parental rights severed --> Father can decide on adoption alone Father commits crime against child --> Parental rights severed --> Mother can decide on adoption alone. I really don't know what type of double standards are you trying to show here. There is none. If both parents are normal people and did not do any criminal action against their children OR is a criminal that is a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 07:23 PM
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You are arguing with your own straw man, all of what is shown is that physically attractiveness is more important than other aspects despite not being something stated. Nobody is saying women will only go for 9.5. Your pretense of a topic attempted to show that money and status are more important, and you got debunked on that. Plus, 6/7 is not average at all, thats above average. Average is a 5/10. Plus, most women agree that Henry Cavill(Very attractive) is more attractive than Adam sandler(Ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:28 PM
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Your advice already changed, from "fucking" to "fucking them right" fucking right doesn't really have a lot to do with frequency. Are you married on in a LTR? Also, you can’t really be “cucked” if you’re also cheating on the partner doing the cheating. That doesn’t make sense. Yes, you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:33 AM
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So you will try to work it out, but the expected behavior of the woman is that she will either cheat or leave you? Hah, predictable. No surprise you hold out in the previous relationship while being cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:26 AM
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Sounds like FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:21 AM
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I'm with my wife for 12 years, i'm still enjoying it. Is it as intense as the beggining? No. Is it bad? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:16 AM
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Do you also cheat on your girlfrends when the sex frequency is less than what you are expacting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:15 AM
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You got debunked with other studies showing the difference between revealed and states preferences, move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:29 AM
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There is no plenty. There is some, I don't know why is this relevant. Tate's physical game is carried by his height. He is very far from the handsome category. The whole point is that being shitty never was a disqualifier that made someone look less attractive when they are phisically attractive. Quite the opposite. Halo effect makes shitty people look less shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:24 AM
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The only thing that makes Tate attractive is his height. I don't think Andrew Tate is charismatic outside of his intended target audience. Overconfidence is arrogance, which is a negative trait. Again and again, being rich does not make women lust for you. No conclusive evidence shows that. The value of money is in another scope, of partnership and lifestyle. Or for the prostitutes that he pays for. Andrew Tate is hated by women by and large. Jeremy Meeks, despite being a criminal, was lusted fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:09 AM
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More like MGTOW, redpill is about getting pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:52 AM
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Andrew Tate is not objectively attractive at all, lol. He is bald(big disqualifier If you don't have a nice face) and has numerous defects on his face. If being shit was a problem, inmates would all be singles, but it reality, they seldom are. Jeremy Meeks was a literal criminal, women in droves thristing for the guy, asking to release him. He eventually got released and became a model worth million, later marrying a rich girl. All because he was handsome, him being a shitty person was irrelavan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:39 AM
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And the same studies show that in the case of physical attraction, stated and revealed preferences differ a lot. So it's pointless to show when they match when the in the topic in question, they don't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:31 AM
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It's not. Handsome faces possess a whole range of common traits. Plus, height. Height is unanimous is women's preferences, meaning tall = better. Also the biggest disqualifier for a partner. But when talking about men, people always forget that height is physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:27 AM
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Thank, this comments sums up what I tried to say, but I'm too burned out to have to paste the same links over and over. Revealed preferences vs stated preferences always plaguing behavioral studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:15 PM
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Having man hater symbols is not equal for the movement itself to be man hating. There are tons of misogynistic people in MRA movements, does that mean the entire movement is? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:48 PM
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The racist part is only equal to not wanting to be a parent If you are impaired. There is 0 bodily violations for a man when they pay child support. Forcing someone to have sex with one they don't want, no matter the reason, is rape. Again, and again, the not wanting to go through pregnancy is enough of a reason, the law isnt concerned with anything else. If you disagree with the other reasons, you do you, the law and ethics are cleae: for whatever reason, nobody should be forced to partake any …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:46 PM
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A parent can decide whether or not they want to carry a pregnancy. Again, if fetuses survived outside the womb, the woman wouldn't be free of child support. Parenthood does not exist before birth. Nobody is forced to pay child support before the child is born. A woman aborting is not opting out of parenthood, she is opting out of pregnancy. If you do a vasectomy, the outcome is the same as an abortion in the end, no kids. But vasectomy are not abortions. And abortions are not opting out of paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:42 PM
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How do I know you aren't cherry picking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:48 PM
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Statistics, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:01 PM
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men literally gain health and career benefits from being married compared to single men in ways that women don't, etc. No causal relationship was demonstrated here. Association is mere correlation. Women also gain benefits from marrying statistically (such as life expectancy), but a correlation is still a correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:56 PM
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And men can expect a maid even when they don't provide to the house. Doesn't mean that women have to accept this. Simply stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:36 PM
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Providing gaps are closing and housework gaps are also closing. Transition phase is transition phase. Both sides have stubborn people wanting only advantages. Men who don't have to provide for all but don't want to do housework. Women who can provide to themselves but want a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:35 PM
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Then getting into a relationship is no longer advantageous. If women can provide for themselves, they should not expect a provider partner. And society simply needs to gradually change their view with time until men aren't required to provide anymore, Instead of men simply taking it on the chin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:32 PM
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The physical strength part rubs me wrong for a few reasons. Women are more vulnerable to be injured and killed by men, that part is obvious. However, I don't see how this equals to men having the advantage on an average relationship . Children have both financial, mental and physical disadvantages in a parent-offspring relationship. They are much more likely to be injured, killed, raped, suffer psychological abuse, be abandoned and left to starve... Yet you would be called a moron to suggest tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:29 PM
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Do you think it would be unjust for a court system to severe parental rights from a father or mother who has repeatedly sexually abused a child or pimped out their child? I don't. Those are the kind of circumstances where parental rights are severed. Is this a serious question? Whatever is wrong with the fact that a raped child needs to be protected by the state when they are being raped by their parents? Do support that in the case of woman giving up parental rights via adoption, she is no long…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:35 AM
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Not wrong. If a woman simply wanted to not be a parent and had no problem with pregnancy, they would just put the child to adoption. But they have a problem with pregnancy, they don't want to go through it. And that's all that matters. The reasons are: not wanting to be a parent AND not wanting to go through pregnancy. The second reason is enough. It doesn't matter what the main reason is, or the true reason is. White people can refuse to date black people by simply giving them a BS excuse like …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:20 AM
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I fail to see how a parent can simply sever the other parents rights in adoption. Is this a regional thing? I've said many times here that specific laws are irrelevant to the discussion of the merit of law. You can have an entire set of unjust laws but it doesn't imply that I support them, nor does it imply that putting another unjust law is correct . Prisons on failure to pay child support are rare. Unemployed father's are not taken prison and is far easier to simply have their assets seized if…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:15 AM
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Financial abortion independs of that. A financia abortion is you saying you don't want to support that kid at all, independently of your job status.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:12 AM
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I've met plenty. Ones that were completely subservient to their husbands to ones that were not. I know one trad ex wife that doesn't even remarry just because the husband ordered it. While he is remarried himself. Now you're going to tell me patriarchy did not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:11 AM
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Custody issues is something else that needs to be solved through other means instead of simply giving men option to abandon their kids prior to their birth. If a mother wants to put the baby for adoption, the father can veto it and she will pay child support. There is no inequality here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 11:08 AM
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All of what you said is wrong. And you pulled the classic "your data is wrong!!!!!" Excuse. Plus, old women are not dating youger men for you attempted and failed mental gymnastics to work, lol. Neither is older men to significant degree, age gap relationships are rare To your dismay, I'm married. So I'm here just to show how you are dishonest, illiterate and dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 10:24 AM
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This explains the frustration of many young men in dating. The "wall" is just women equaling and then outnumbering men in the mid 30s. This is what you wrote. You have to decide yourself, either women outnumber men at mid 30 or they don't. Quit moving the goal post. Btw in the US,women only start outnumbering men past the age of 60. https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2020/ So all in all bullshit. By your theory, only 60+ men should have advantage in dating. Easily not tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:25 PM
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"only dating people who have no social media" is now on my list of most based things said ever. TOO BASED
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:42 PM
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Your stats on male babies is misleading, you're taking global averages that are skewed by places with high population such as china and india. There are plenty of places with severe deficit in men, such as Russia. Plus, if you want to talk specific places. In the US men outnumber women aged 30-45 by 1.066, so about 107 men to 100 women, if population is all that mattered, the "wall" that you mention which is supposedly caused by women outnumbering men wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:16 PM
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Adoption only happens with the consent of both parents, if one parent doesn't want it, no adoption happens, and the non-willing parent has to pay child support. I'm against safe haven laws, for the record. The reasoning is that in adoption, someone else WILLINGLY takes your responsabilities for you, in other scenarios, the state (so the taxpayers) would take it just because you don't want to have a child. I'm all in for people who do financial abortions when both sides agree. This is not whats b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 04:07 PM
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You presented no argument for that, you merely saying "being submissive and smaller" If you can't write your ideas properly, you should learn how to communicate. Besides, there is no proof that being submissive as an adult women (or men) in a relationship is inherently bad. Your idea of submissiveness is slavery or worse, this is why you write this nonsense. End of the discussion anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:17 PM
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I am not putting them in the same category. You blanket stated that being submissive is bad and i gave the child counter example. Whether or not the child is disciplined, they still are submissive because their parents decide what they eat, wear and where their homes are and the decision making on the household is done by the parents, and no amount of complaining or how much freedom the kid has will change this reality. Kids have developing brains, but you seem to also have one, to fail simple r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:12 PM
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Your sources are not representative of the societal norms. Patriarchy entails that the men is the leader of the household. The wife has say of almost all of it mainly because the husband doesn't deal with it, but his word is final on the household. If he chooses to listen to his wife, thats his prerrogative. In reality husbands would do this and not be tyrants because the traditional family is more about division of labor than it is a power dynamic. There is no reason for a husband to nose on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:08 PM
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Women want to date at their income level or above regardless of how much they earn. They reinforce the gender roles as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:02 PM
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How is being submissive = unable to complain? Children are submissive because the decisions of their lives are taken by others. Children obey their parents, respect them and in turn gain protection, get fed and leisure. They play no active role in the household and simply absorbs what they learn from an authority (the parents). If they fail to obey or respect or behave, they get punished and disciplined. This does not exclude having some sort of individuality or nor complaining. They are submiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:57 PM
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Children fit the bill of both being submissive and smaller but you'd be hard pressed that they're the ones disadvantaged in an average household.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:42 PM
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There is absolutely 0 problem with what you're describing, except that its not a trad husband, but a reversal of the trad roles. If you want a guy like this, go for it. Oh and average handsome is not a 7/10. Average is is average, handsome is handsome. 6/10 is already handsome, and 7/10 is getting close to actor and model levels, this is here is already a rarity. 8-10/10 are reserved for the most handsome of men. 8/10 is handsome actor level 9/10 is model level 10/10 is most handsome ever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:34 PM
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Why simply no votes, why instead of this, higher taxes for women, or less taxes for men or something else? I don't see what the army example necessarily entails no votes, this would be akin to say that the woman has the sole custody of a child because she was the one pregnant, and the father can eat dirt if he wants to take care of his kid. This could be easily resolved by conscription for women too. Something that is being suggested for a while now, and i'm not against.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:27 PM
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There are places where abortion is totally banned, therefore, is it pointless to discuss abortion? We are discussing the merit of the law itself, not where it exists and what are the other laws surrounding it. I can argue against the murder of gays even if everywhere it was legal to kill them. Loaning or extracting are not forced regardless, again, if the father was asked to be connected to his kid for a while to save his life, he wouldn't be forced to, nor punished if refused and no matter how …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:24 PM
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Nope, unemployed people are not sent to prison for lack of child support when the law is just. A law that imprisons a father for either being unemployed or poor is a bad law. You can look for examples(rare) of this happening, just as i can show you an example of a raped girl having to share custody with the rapist. The existence of unjust laws does not entail that another unjust law needs to take its place. Its far more common to, in face of flat out refusal to pay when there is money available,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:56 PM
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You can already opt out of parenthood via adoptions, which is the transfer of your responsability to someone else willing to take it. In other situations, i do not agree, the state(taxpayers) should not be forced to raise a child when you have the capacity to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:43 PM
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You are not forced to work, you can very much be unemployed and have a kid, and nobody is going to force you to get a job. Your argument is the one that don't make sense, You cannot logically say you want a way out (abortion) while also want to keep men tied to your choices as well. It just give you advantages for no drawback at the same time that give men no advantage with all the drawback. Pregnancy is by default a disadvantage, a woman suffer physiological changes in her body, is more vulnera…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:41 PM
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You don't understand what bodily autonomy is, because both loan and extraction can be refused by the father in the example. If they just asked him to be physically connected to the kid via one of his organs, he would still be able to deny it, because again, nobody can be forced to partake any sort of procedure that uses their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:36 PM
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I really don't know why the US laws simply dictate the entire debate. Do you know what else exist in the US? Total abortion ban, so this whole debate is pointless because in some states abortion doesn't exist? There is an entire world that is not the US, this discussion isn't about a country, but the merits of a law. We are discussing ethics, wheter or not a law is fair or not is independent of its existence somewhere. If a man makes clear to a woman that he does not want to be a father, but she…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:35 PM
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Wrong, Adoptions already exist, and is a way to give up parenthood. Women prefer to abort in place of putting their kids to adoption because: -They don't want to go through all the physiological changes of pregnancy -They don't want to become more vulnerable -They don't want to face health issues -They don't want to feel the intense pain of labor -They don't want to potentially die from it. In short, all related to their bodies. If pregnancy required little physical effort, abortion would be poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:25 PM
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So then, as long as selective-service applies only to men, no votes for women, right? I don't see how it would necessarily entail no votes. But i agree that if only men are required to do something, they either would need more rights OR women less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:22 PM
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You are not forced to work at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:21 PM
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Its not, you pay your taxes don't you? Is your bodily autonomy being violated? You don't need to work if you don't want to, you owe your child money like you owe a restaurant money if you eat something from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:20 PM
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Its not, if you owe someone money and they charge you, your bodily autonomy isn't violated. If you eat the food of a restaurant, you will be charged. This is the male equivalent of the terrible "just close your legs" or "just tie up your tubes" argument. Do you really want to go there? Read the passage again and realize how wrong your interpretation of it was. I was using the examples to debunk the argument that abortion is equal to a finantial abortion because it prevents someone from paying ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:19 PM
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The case of incubator babies would cause the abortion to not result in end of parental responsabilities. Adoption already exists, which is the transfer of your obligations to someone that wants it, giving a way for people to simply abandon their kids at the hands of the state is not something i agree with. And its not the topic in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:17 PM
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I don't see why the SA victim would have any sort of obligations with a child that was forced upon him via rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:14 PM
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Parenthood is the socially and legally enforced status of subordinating your own bodily autonomy to the needs of your child. So your claim is actually an incoherent claim of incoherence - the argument you claim is incoherent actually makes perfect sense. Tell me exactly what parts of parenthood violate bodily autonomy. Their argument does not equate bodily autonomy with parental responsibilities, it frames these two things as diametrically opposed! How are you getting this so wrong? Is English n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:13 PM
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Totally against.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:44 PM
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You could have just shortened it to "i don't have arguments"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:16 PM
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Not the term, the concept. Nobody should have the right to opt out of parenthood just because someone has the option to not give away their body to your kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:01 PM
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Abortion is about parenthood, bodily autonomy is the justification. You don't get an abortion because "my body my choice" you get an abortion because "I can't/don't want to be a parent". Medical issues aside. Arguing about "True intentions" is not an argument. Abortion is by law and ethics a bodily autonomy issue, whether or not you think the true objective is is irrelevant. This kind of argument is akin to "They want freedom of speech only to say racist stuff" Late term abortions are currently …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:59 PM
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Abortion is not about opting out of parenthood, its bodily autonomy, see the organ donation example. Moreover, some of these legal ways are not gendered except for one, and i am against this one. There is no need for "fairness" to do wrong things. Men and women have options to give their child to adoption IF both consent. This is just spiteful argumentatin with no thought in mind. We are not arguing here what the laws are, but what they should be. Many states in the US have banned abortion, does…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:50 PM
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The only incoherent thing is assuming that US laws are valid for the entire world. We are discussing the merit of abortion, right? Not US laws. I for one, am completely against safe haven laws, but this is a regional problem. Imagine if i answered to you saying that "Oh no but in Poland abortion is not allowed! Asking for finantial abortions makes no sense!" None of this changes the fact that right to abortion =/= Right to finantially abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:57 PM
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Only in some places of the US. And if "some places" is a valid argument, then, Roe V wade overtuned, many places banned abortion. So now what? Europe KEEPS being on TOP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:51 PM
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Dude, chill, its just funny that the guy nailed it with precision. There is no argument here, i'm just explaining to you why the comment was made.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:50 PM
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They aspire into the purity of the blessed machine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:48 PM
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What matters is the guy nailed it by saying you were tall. Patterns are patterns for a reason, and tall guys are seen as far more attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:44 PM
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People that are born to rich parents: Ohhhh, i am mature and accomplished! People that win the lottery: Wow, now i am super mature! Guys that gain money through speculation: My tactics of potentially breaking the market show how mature i am. Celebrities and models that are only there because they were born with a pretty face: My maturity is unmatched. Rockstars that overdose on heroin: I too make mature choices. Guy from a poor family working his ass off 24/7 but failed to become rich: Guess i n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:42 PM
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6'3 is tall in any part of europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:37 PM
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How should right wing people or men know this? This is a question to psychologists, or antropologists, not regular people. "Why are people hypocrites" is what he wants to know, this isn't a question for here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:39 PM
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Thankfully abortion and adoption exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:20 PM
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The only way this passes is if he doesn't know about his child. If he's biologically the father and he knows the mother wants to give the child away, he can. He can fill the putative father registry in advance. Besides, again, these laws shouldn't exist in the first place, instead of opening a wrong thing to be done to the other side, the bad thing should be prohibited.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:16 PM
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What baby? There is no baby. It is a fetus or embryo. Do you need to pay child support to the sperm you release while you fap? No? Is this a finantial abortion? No. What are you talking about If men can relinquish parental obligations in case of paternity fraud, women need a comparable right. If a wife cheats and gets pregnant by other, than the husband can fill for paternity fraud and be free from parental obligations. Therefore, if a husband cheats and impregnates another, than the wife can re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:13 PM
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Yes the world is the US, and no, not in every state, the father can veto the adoption attempt and then have the mother pay child support. Only in a few states where there is a literal dropbox is where this is permitted, which is about 13. Besides, safe haven laws are just another retarded US law.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:08 PM
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The graph directly disproves this hey will have her doing all of the emotional labor, cooking, cleaning, shopping, gift buying, social calendar, dog care, decorating, relationship maintenance, “make the house a home,” be pleasant and non confrontational, just chill. Have no needs, no boundaries, don’t expect him to do much, not play video games with his buddies because you want “quality time” together. He wants you to expect less while doing more. He wants all of the perks of a relationship with…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:06 PM
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Now you're just schizoing, so now specifically artist is better, despite Terrence tao not being one. Want an artist? Picasso, happy? You have provided 0 evidence that a world famous artist would be less attractive to women than a redpiller. Go ahead ask women who they would rather go on a date with, Evgeny Kissin or Andrew Tate You are the one who said that "people that are artists/etc" are more attractive, i never made such claim. What i'm saying since the beggining is that it makes no sense to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:00 PM
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Abortion is not a paper abortion just as a vasectomy is not an abortion. Abortion is the cessation of the pregnancy in the female body, IF fetuses could survive outside of the womb, the women would be liable for child support and wouldn't be able to finantially abort. Again, do you think women should have the right to leave their husbands and kids because her husband impregnated another woman? We don't give rights based on sex, women should have a comparable right for things to be equal. nonsens…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:49 PM
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No, they are right wingers, they just also happen to be hyprocrites. You gotta have a terrible reading comprehension to think i was making a true scotsman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:44 PM
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Why is it when right leaning men talk about personal responsibility they throw that thinking away when a woman is pregnant?Why is it when right leaning men talk about personal responsibility they throw that thinking away when a woman is pregnant? Your title, a generalization of right wing men (wrong) The other part i already answered, hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:25 PM
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Reason number one: 1-Redpill advice doesn't work 2- Redpill ideology is vague and diluted. You have tradcons who actively promote marriage, to other RPs that do spinning plates, to others who are MGTOws who call themselves RP, to self improvement grifters
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:24 PM
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The title is a straw man because you lumped all right wing people on the same basket. There are left win people who say they are against racism but they are actively racist against white people and jews. Its just hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:20 PM
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Your title is a straw man, i don't think being right wing implies that you think that a father shoulld be able to leave his children. The rest of your post is: Well, many people are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:14 PM
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Men do not have the right to finantial abortions just like women don't. Women have right to ABORTION, terminating the pregnancy on THEIR BODIES. If men could get pregnant, they would have the same right Just like only men can be victim of paternity fraud, do women deserve equality here and be able to leave their family if the husband impregnates another woman? No, because, you know, biology, women birth their kids, men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:09 PM
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In reality, it is the confidence that attracts women. Women judge us by our behavior and they see men who act with confidence, pride and who command respect as desirable mates, Unscientific BS Wait, this is probably a troll post. Edit: Guy blocked me in lightspeed Since there are people responding to me here, i will make one edit, but i can't answer because the i was blocked, can't comment more on the thread The experts say it "women judge confidence and personality first, not looks" is false. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:54 AM
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Value as a partner and sexual desirability are two different things. Money makes you be seen as a better potential partner for OTHER THINGS that are not sexual attraction. There is no conclusive evidence that money makes a man more sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:51 AM
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In egalitarian marriages, women do a few hours PER WEEK of housework more than men(on the flipside, the man also works a few hours more per week), your scenario that "women does every house chore, men does nothing" is an absolute outlier, mine is far closer to reality. <image> Women do 2.7h/week of more housework But men do 3.1h/week of more paid work The only gap that exists here is on caregiving, where women do 1.8/week more. Remember, this is PER WEEK. This pretty much disproves your hoax. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:43 AM
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I don't know, why do you assume the artist is more? And even if it is, if you're an average person, is the way to get dates to just become a world renowed artist? Of course not. Arthur Schopenhauer was and is a world renowed philosopher, but he was so misogynistic that it would put any red pill to shame, is he more appealing to women than the average redpill? Many "world renowed" people have had or are repulsive to women. Criminals very often have partners outside of the prison, is the way to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 11:21 AM
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I really don't understand why women here think that cooking cleaning and whatnot are considered the wife's duties nowadays. They aren't. This standard may apply to you let grandfather, but to young people they fail. "I dated" well I'm also right now marrying to a woman that in her entire life did way less housework than I do. I had to teach her how to clean some things. Anedotic evidence is anedotic. You spent your whole first paragraph talking about how you would exclude extreme examples, and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:22 PM
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Because you don't have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:09 PM
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Statistically? Women are harder to please Women get much more offended in relationships than men do. Women also are more neurotic. And they initiate more divorces. A similar pattern happens when you compare gay divorce vs lesbian divorce rates. With the latter being bigger. As a rule of thumb, men are pleased if the woman does not do bad things. A woman needs both not doing bad things, and doing good things. Women require more reassurance of love, looks, and "the little things". My wife is defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:07 PM
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Who is you guys? Also you need to be incredibly ignorant about morality if you think anything of what I said is postmodernism. (Something that is not even a thing in moral theory). Let me help you. Two different types of moral thought: consequentialism, deontology. "The end justify the means" is a consequentialist statement. Utilitarian, if it's easier to understand. Hopefully your brain starts working now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:54 PM
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The point is exactly what your last sentence implies. Being married is not evidence of sex appeal. Trump is married, should o project myself on him? If you want to ask this question, then you have to look and ask yourselfs: Are these guys on the tip of the tongues of women in terms of sex appeal? No Then it makes no sense for Pill spaces to try and mimic them to get dates. Specially since it's a bit nonsensical to think that you need to be a genius to marry. Some nice guys get dates, some asshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:57 PM
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The ends justify the means os 100% a moral stance, one that you don't agree, but moral nonetheless. By moral = it is an statement of moral beliefs. There are many different types of morals out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:39 PM
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Ok, show us your evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:33 PM
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Serial killers are an anomaly. You seldom see single drug dealers in prison. Inmates usually have girlfriends or wifea outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:33 PM
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"I know a guy" isn't an argument. As your classic married nerd, the bullies I knew are also either married or are being promiscuous around. Morality and dating are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:31 PM
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Introverted people are less likely to be successful with dating, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:30 PM
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Pill spaces are looking for people with high sex appeal. Getting married isn't a proof of that. There are men who are actively despised by women who are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:28 PM
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Psychopathy is a very specific thing. Being agressive isn't it. Though I agree that RP does kind of worship psychopathic traits, what Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson are talking about isn't psychopathy. Your preference for guys like Terrence Tao is a preference, but in term of dating, Guys like him are close to the bottom of the barrel in terms of sex appeal, so you're not going to ever see him being mentioned in RP spaces, neither woman spaces, hell, even most spaces. People usually put their ido…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:24 PM
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It is associated with PUA whether you like it or not. Isn't any less bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:16 PM
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Nope, I stumbled upon the red pill without even looking for it. I was during the time where they still talked about the matrix. And nowadays, RP content is superimposed with self improvement content.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:47 PM
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I know what it is, bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:45 PM
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If you are a white or black man from Europe or United States and you go to SEA or south America. You're going to be: Taller (more attractive) Have a higher income More status due to being from the Europe and US (specially if from Scandinavia) That puts your desirability up even if you're "weak or boring"(this hardly matters ) Also, the point of passport bro is to stay there. So you attract gold diggers or green card chasers, just pump and dump. Sure the competitiveness is becoming stronger becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:44 PM
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Confirmation bias. In the incel forums there are people like you, who did get jacked and healthy, and got nothing in return. The frustration comes from the advice being done as a way to get dates. If it fails, lost time. Go to the gym for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:39 PM
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Game is astrology for men. So is RP and PUA
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:00 PM
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I will quote you when other RP men says RP is "amoral" and "doesn't care about changing society"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:59 AM
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There is a pipeline from red pill and pua to incels and blackpill. But most of these guys were already single, looked for the RP to try and date, it failed, then they rebelled. It wouldn't be surprising that most of the people that look for dating advice are single. What matters is that RP advice doesn't work. Most dating advice is confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:55 AM
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Work out to get dates = recipe to frustration. Cutting out processed food = eat healthy is now dating advice? The only modern dating advice that actually works is passport broing, the rest is confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:24 AM
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It says it in the title. Only if you don't know how to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:19 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1grrcf5/comment/lx8vbkd/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:27 PM
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There is a video of someone asking a girl if they prefer a spontaneous kiss or for the guy to ask first. She sais "spontaneous" , the reported said "always?". Then she said "if you're ugly don't even try something like that"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:59 PM
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Can't know the difference between the women that want to be approached and the women that don't. Just don't approach women in random public spaces. Save it for places where flirting is assumed. Cold approach is rubbish btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:55 PM
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It was just the most subtle insult of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:27 PM
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The wrong place is most places You told me elsewhere that you should approach women in women dominated spaces. That's a big no no that women complain frequently. You then just said "they're lying". You read the room as well as the ones you supposedly know more than.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:18 PM
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Yes the classic " I never meant what I write". See that "you" being written four times, I totally wasn't putting you in a certain group, I was talking about someone else, I know how to communicate! Just a "many" before talking about groups of people is far better communication than writing shit like "communication is subjective" Anyway, for the people that care, no evidence to show that "charisma and confidence" are preferred by most nor is it a very testable strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:15 PM
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What are "the shit" I say? So if a dude says here "women only want Chad". You are going to see this as a nuanced statement? Or like everybody else, you will se many people commenting "women are not a monolith" and "stop with the await" I gave you a counter example of what you said, don't need to get pissed about that. Personality preferences are subjective, and there is no conclusive research (specially by how different people define charisma and confidence) to warrant you any kind of blanket st…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:45 AM
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You need to update to the current year. Women are specifically complaining about getting approached in public spaces, mentioning that it's not just because a woman is existing in a public space that she wants to chat, specially with a man. If you feel you impressed a woman by approached, first make sure you simply didn't put her into a hostage negotiation, that made it look like she was actually into it. Save the flirting for places where it's assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:31 AM
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Please, no AWALT when convenient. I followed the "charisma and confidence " route with my wife and she interrupted me mid date telling me to stop because what she liked in me is that I was shy and reserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:27 AM
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And it's bad for everyone. Because the men who otherwise wanted simply to practice yoga, now can't because other men poisoned the well by using it to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:21 AM
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They are not lying, you know why whenever a "woman only" activity appears, women start joining it in droves? Women gyms, women Ubers, women hostels. Do you think it's because women are stupid and want to pay more just to see someone with a vagina? No, it's because they feel safer in these spaces. Many guys that just legit want to practice yoga already feel the tension and how the environment "dies" when they join? Because other guys went there looking for dates and now the well is poisoned. So e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 11:15 AM
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Don't if they are female dominated spaces. Women have specifically said that these are "safe spaces" for them and they don't want to have this disturbed, specially from a guy wanting to date. Also, any place where social interaction is not assumed is not included in this. I think you've seen the outrage of women because of men hitting on them in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:38 AM
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Wow sure, family and social disapproval (and threat of death) totally does not prevent gay men from embracing their sexuality. We've never seen married man coming out as gay due to being afraid of social repercussions. Women here are completely clueless. I guess it doesn't matter if a father slut shames his daughter because she isn't going to fuck him anyway. No difference. Complete Lack of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 10:24 AM
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Why is it an insecurity? Because men are born with paranoia about not fucking chicks or is it because this insecurity was born out of social prejudice? If you think height is a mere insecurity I just advise you to leave the room because you are totally clueless. Also, question for you. If a POS is black, is it okay to call them... Certain slurs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:15 PM
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Read the goddamn link. The entirety of it. There is a clear definition of sex tourism and how every single group of people practices it. Women also do it, in multiple places of africa. For the reasons of a certain stereotype that you may also know. In any case, not discussing anymore, you're too hellbent on denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:27 PM
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lmao and top kek. Attractive people are seen as more intelligent. https://www.wired.com/story/prettier-people-more-intelligent/ Not only that but every single trait of attractive people are boosted by the halo effect. You live in your own bubble, thinking everybody has it easier than you, even the people who can literally be killed by simply existing. That are barred from donating blood because the sex you do causes diseases and because you're too promiscuous. Any non straight person faces far m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:23 PM
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All of those things prevent gay people assuming they're gay, therefore, preventing them from being promiscuous. There are more explicit things such as not being able to donate blood in some countries, which is a much worse form of slut shaming. Every non straight person is subject to getting sexually shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:12 PM
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Thus, gay men go abroad for sex. Both straigh and gay sex tourists care about activities, straight and gay men during sex tourism trips will attend lots of parties, use lots of alcohol and drugs, visit saunas... You are just pulling everything out of yours despite evidence being in your face that sex tourism is practiced by both gay and straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:50 PM
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Woman, for fucks sake, gay people have more difficulty simply existing, they face prejudice by simply stating that they're gay, let alone having sex with one another. To be promiscuous as a gay person REQUIRES you to be out of the closet. Something gay people HAVE A HARD TIME DOING because they can face prejudice, be disowed by their families, abandoned by friends, be socially isolated or DIE. If you are not conisdered a functioning human being and faces repercussions for your existence, its OBV…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:29 PM
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You could just simply do a quick google https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_tourism#Gay_sex_tourism Why would someone from the US go to beaches in the Maldives if there are beaches in Miami?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:19 PM
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Gay man face criticism for existing, they face criticism for having sex but not being promiscuous, they face criticism for being promiscuous (spreading aids anyone?). They get disowed by parents, kicked out of home, lose friends... They also die for merely existing. Do you seriously think that these issues are in any order of magnitude comparable to slut shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:14 PM
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I wonder why you can't simply write "c0pe" as a response here but somehow obvious troll threads go through?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:08 PM
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Such as their mothers, fathers, friends, rest of the family, totally no big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:02 PM
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Guess homophobia doesn't exist Guess gay people doesn't face prejudice for merely existing, let alone having sex with each other. The complete lack of awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:00 PM
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Marx missed so hard that Neo-Marxists and modern left wing groups basically scraped the whole method of dialetical materialism just to justify what capitalism hasn't fallen (superstructure determines the base not the other way around, lol), focusing on cultural hegemony instead of economy and labor. (Which is all just a cop out for a failed theory)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:38 PM
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Make no mistake, attracting a woman mainly has to do with things outside of your natural looks. Incorrect, both men and women exhibit their first criteria for a succesful date as physical attractiveness. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date was physical attractiveness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5640931_Sex_Differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 12:12 PM
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What? Do you think one guy that is attractive needs to succeed in capitalism or patriarchy to get laid? These guys have money thrown at them. There is a story on a podcast of a well off women who had sex on the trunk of an old car because the dude was hot but didn't have his own place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:06 AM
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"most species" What are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:48 AM
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You just destroyed the definition of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:30 AM
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Gene Simmons makeup was not to make him handsome. It's quite clear that gene Simmons would not have slept with 4000 women if he wasn't a very successful rockstar. You can see plenty of men with similar looks as him, playing guitar, without it. Status isn't what OP suggest, but it obviously matters. People would not buy luxury brands if it did not. Nor would they but what is trending.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:28 AM
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Status is perceived social value. If you got a Louis Vuitton purse, making an exact replica of it but without the brand won't give you status. Looks and money are a different thing. They can be associated with status, but aren't the same thing. You can be rich without status(fairly easily) and handsome without status(harder, but still happens)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:23 AM
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I think you should make a Google before posting. Data shows men are the most likely to remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:55 AM
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Saw it elsewhere. The 4B movement isn't to stop having sex with men. It's just another excuse wives will use to not have sex with their husbands(who voted for Harris)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:30 AM
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Have you never heard the very popular trope "Women are never wrong?" even women buy into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:42 PM
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"Women are never wrong" is a trope for married people for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:41 PM
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I had a brainfart, i read "Online people" and put "people" on my reply. I meant "Men that have lots of casual sex = attractive, rich or with status" The dynamics of sex for women is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:17 PM
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I'm not debunking anything, i was asking a question: Given some statistic that a certain group commits more crimes than the others, is it bigotry to MANIFEST that you consider these people as potential criminals? Being wary hardly matters because Women will be wary of men regardless of statistics, instead based on reputation and experience White people will be wary of black people based on reputation and experience (And yes, that happens, white people don't admit it, but every black person knows…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:16 PM
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She is and is proud of it, because Maybe theyll produce less of you and earth will turn green again :) Truly one based misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:14 PM
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I don't have to do anything to portray you as crazy, you are crazy. I specifically said that WHITE SUPREMACIST DOG WHISTLE use that statistic to justify their beliefs, that touched such a massive nerve that you decided to show your true misandric face for no reason. Good job! Cope and seethe, lady. I'm enjoying the free rent on your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:11 PM
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lol, i just exposed how statistical thinking can be used for bigotry and you lashed out massively as if i was agreeing with it AHAHAHAHAHAH. I wasn't even trying to expose you but i did accidentally. You didn't answer my question, can i consider women potential baby killers or not? Is this misogyny? Find another specific statistic to rave about while scrolling past the 30 statistics males dominate so you can continue pretending you aren’t who you know you are True, i confess when i see a person …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:01 PM
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Well it doesn't just limit itself to online. IRL they will say the same thing but with the caveat that "We're not talking about you/my family members" My wife's friends were talking to each other and they told a story about a guy who abandoned his pregnant wife, then one of them said "Men are despicable!!!!!!!... Not you though, you're exception" I've heard them say every one of the opinions i listed above (except the potential rapists) but with the aditional caveat of "You/my family members are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:53 PM
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You didn't specify what you meant by mainstream. My social circle and the general masculine perception of the time was that everybody knew that "women like money". Since it was a common opinion among men, i say it was mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:48 PM
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I'm undecided on this. Women commit almost all of neonaticide(killing newborn baby) and commit more infanticide than men https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonaticide Is it fine for a man to consider the majority of women as "Potential baby killers?" There is also a certain white supremacist dog whistle that uses the same statistical argument, most of the crime is commited by ... but they only make up for ... % of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:42 PM
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TV, magazines? No, the only TV shows I heard giving this advice were comedy ones. I come from a poor background. I only had a TV in my house with 7 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:57 AM
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Misandry and misogyny are poorly defined terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:20 AM
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Where I live, judges are all but immune to making illegal or unhetical decisions. So there are always stories from the prenup being accepted in full to being rejected in full, even when they should not. Usually they are partially accepted, because it's almost always the case that family law and civil law will diverge in some point. With family law prevailing. It's still the best choice if you want to marry with some sort of protection. If you want to protect your assets with 100% guarantee, only…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:14 AM
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This is hard to answer. Because I know MANY women who have routinely post stuff slandering men, calling them pigs, potential rapists, violent, all of them cheat but will sleep with one at night. Pretty much all women I know will possess at least one of the above opinions, specially the last. Is this misandry? Or just someone that agrees with some misandric ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:48 AM
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I also grew up but I heard "women don't like men, they like money" from the male references I had all the time. Sure they did not say this in front of women, but they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:28 AM
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What is or is not a mistake is irrelevant, because the RP claims that by understanding female nature, a man can "improve himself" in a away that will cause women to lust for him. That way he can get casual sex If you disagree with that, you can create your own different pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:48 PM
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This seems like a dismissive argument akin to those who deny the violence of Islam "it is not written in the Quran" Sure, the "perfect theory" of the RP is "amoral" but the practice isn't. The practitioners aren't, the gurus aren't. They just start seeing morality through the lens of the RP. RP would not talk about "enjoying the decay" if it thought that the current situation is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:08 PM
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Rules of the sub disavow ranting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:16 PM
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At its essence, the redpill is the realization that men and women are biologically different. That we are sexually attracted to fairly universal patterns of behavior and characteristics across cultures This is far too vague, biology recognizes the differences of men and women, is biology RP? Of course not. RP is about methods of picking up women on the current state of society. It is not removed from it. RP guys are not "fine" with the situation, and see it as unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:13 PM
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RP specifically emphasises pumping and dumping, so men going into RP are seeking that. At least before they find a "trad" wife to marry (Tradcon position)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:10 PM
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What the fuck, I'm not that old but I always had this as a kid. I'm just a millennial, did people just got sucked into phone screens that fast?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:14 PM
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Astrology has to work for somebody otherwise people wouldn't keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:12 PM
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People that have lots of casual sex = attractive, rich or with status.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:09 PM
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The problem of RP isn't it's morality, the problem is that it doesn't work. The black pillers and incels of today, were the Red pillers and PUAS of yesterday. What should men follow? Reality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:42 PM
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In my time everybody did. "Blue pill" was just the vanilla advice that always existed. Not that it was effective, but talked about, yes. Seems that father's don't care about this anymore, given the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:26 PM
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They want something that doesn't exist. And will keep chasing unicorns to refuse accepting themselves. The fairy tale land of grifters is already set: BP: just have personality, bro RP: just act alpha and hold frame, bro. Everybody knows this is a fraud, and if men want this instead of the truth, nobody owes them an alternative. They are a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:22 PM
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A lot of RP guys just want to live like Charlie sheen, pumping and dumping like no tomorrow. There is no answer to that, RP or otherwise, no secret formula or "knowledge" It's just looks, status or money. RP nor BP have any answer besides what everybody already knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:18 PM
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I mean, now we're walking into fantasy land. Everybody knows how a guy can have lots of casual sex Looks,status or money(prostitution or sugar dating) Waiting for "the secret" to pump and dump chicks is just failure to accept your condition, coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:15 PM
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This advice is just like saying "follow your dreams and work hard" to a person wanting to become rich. Vague as fuck and employing the just world fallacy. Lots of people are just plain unnatractive by themselves. Until this person complains, then they are called incels. "Be yourself" is not dating advice, more like an advice for someone to make peace with the fact that they can't get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:41 AM
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Tradcon RP makes RP not be amoral. And it never was amoral, maybe to some purists, it was always built upon a resentment over the unfairness of contemporary dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:35 AM
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A bit too off topic no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:33 AM
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Ogres being masculinity is a cultural perception, not a biological one though. Robert pattinson is more masculine than some body builders. Masculity that matters to women are genetic traits that indicate sexual dimorphism, having giant muscles isn't that. Hollow cheeks, strong jawlines, Wide shoulders, tall, low body fat with good muscle definition = Genetic dimorphic traits. Volume of muscles = Acquired trait <image> The muscular body is certainly more masculine, but even as male aesthethics, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:22 PM
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We do have, but men have a bell curve opinion about women. Most are are average, a minority is ugly and beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:11 PM
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FemDom aficionado
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:08 PM
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Never read any book specifically about that and nothing else, its usually one topic from books about sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:06 PM
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It doesn't matter on being CAPABLE, if you don't do, it doesn't matter. Most people are CAPABLE of playing piano, playing piano is still something uncommon. "I want a man that KNOWS and DOES fix things" =/= "I want a man who can LEARN how to fix things"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:02 PM
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Any book that talks about natural/sexual selection works. You can start with the wiki on sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 04:00 PM
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He explicitly says that the blackpill(only looks matter) is only valid for women, this is not only false, but delulu. Very few people will say they have high standards. I too agree that looks are the most important (but disagree with the BP that says they're the only). And the situation on the market is mostly because guys aren't getting anything. In terms of having sex, men have low standards, but for commiting and marrying, they have higher standards. Hence why women complain about being "stri…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:59 PM
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No, he is bullshitting, the sexy son hyphotesis is the one that shows females will breed with males that have genes that are correlated with more breeding, even if these traits reduce biological fitness (such as peacock tails)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:18 PM
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Deliberately spreading misinformation? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:16 PM
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Thats not it. What you're describing is the "dual mating strategy" The sexy son hyphotesis is that females will gravitate to reproducing with attractive males even if the considered attractive traits cause inferior biological fitness, such as, for example peacock tails. The women that choose not to mate with the more attractive males will reproduce less since their sons will be considered less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:13 PM
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>Breeding fetish >Breeding fetish Porn rotten brain. Also, finding fat people unattractive is a preety gender neutral thing which furthermore reduces the ooga booga biologically programmed point. Nice conclusion, if something is gender neutral, then it isn't biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:11 PM
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We aren't attracted to deformed faces, nor disease ridden bodies. Babies spend 80% of their time looking at faces that are considered CULTURALLY attractive. Research has come and gone and people converge what they find attractive, with different levels of tolerances and weights of what is most important. More importantly, these research is not simply asking, they monitor brain activity and arousal. See this lecture https://youtu.be/iOHdZKDldIg?si=rvGM8qzNrE4vSFP8&t=1562 Symmetric faces, V shape …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:09 PM
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Delulu, plenty of men don't know how to fix things, since those are learned traits, men who are very lazy and weren't taught how to fix and cook, and even if they can learn, it doesn't mean that they want to, nor that people will simply wait for them to learn when there are others that already know. If a guy doesn't like to fix things, he won't do. And will be considered "less masculine" or whatever fits the bill of the person saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:51 PM
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No, I'm black-pilled alright. But my belief in the black-pill only applies to women. I fully believe men are more moral, kind, and sympathetic. Just because you have high standards doesn't mean that we do. Hilarious! Change your flair to "Woman hating bluepiller" because thats what you are. Guy can't even understand the own ideologies he buys. Black pill is the belief that genetic looks characteristics is what matters in human attraction. If you think ONLY women care about genetics, then what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:49 PM
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You claim to be black pilled but gives the most BS bluepilled take that you love anyone with a good "personality" is laughable. You don't even know your own pill enough. I don't know why would you hate women when they give the exact same standards as you do, saying that it's personality that matters. Men and women they want attractive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:22 PM
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An obese woman will have both a big ass and big boobs. Is she attractive? No, because it's the balance between shape and size that matters. More fat on boobs is good, but if it comes with fat on the face, arms and belly, it's bad . Big boobs and ass on hourglass = good. Big boobs and ass on obese body shape = bad. An obese woman with big ass and big boobs will look unnatractive despite these. Because body shape and fat distribution is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:19 PM
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Small ass or boobs aren't exactly genetic. Body shape is (it is what is being talked about in the OP)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:03 PM
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Literally everybody can know how to cook, not everybody likes to cook or does it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:21 PM
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"Sexy son hypothesis" is the name of a sexual selection hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:20 PM
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Which is why drama has obese troubled guys and not handsome guys. Twilight and 50 shades of grey have their common ugly and troubled love interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:19 PM
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Actors often have masculine bodies. Think of all the thirst traps Jason momoa, henry cavill, Thor, Wolverine, even the Twilight guy has a masculine body. Are they particularly dominant, violent? Also, the attraction comes from instinct, males with these body types reproduced more, which makes their genes more desirable for women to reproduce with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:18 PM
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Why is this a problem? Are you particularly attracted to women with wide shoulders, broad waist, thin hips?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 01:14 PM
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Your whole problem is assuming they are getting exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:34 PM
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Women from a poorer country = marginalized group that gets predated. nice logic. Women can do whatever they want no matter how any individual feels about it, but A classic!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:41 PM
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Wow, based.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:42 PM
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Trump voter?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:00 PM
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Show us exactly the marriage contract of passaport bros buying foreign women. "Women can do whatever they want, except when I disagree with it"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:54 PM
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Everybody is shallow. The Halo effect is not present in only part of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:46 PM
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copes Then not everything is lost for incels!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:39 AM
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Romantically I think it's close to 50/50 on dominant wives/husband's. Sexually is what leans heavily to male Dom. I'd say 90/10
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:32 AM
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This study suggests that female dominant/male submissive partnerings have higher numbers of children and thus could be considered a mating strategy in the same way that classic maledom relationships are. You're missing two things here. Being dominant in the relationship doesn't imply being dominant in bed. When you see women talking about how they prefer to be dominated in bed, it doesn't imply that they also want to be dominated in the relationship overall. "Women are never wrong" and "happy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:23 AM
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Lol. 37% of women ages 18-29 voted Trump. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls Talk about delusion >Most [desirable] women are in fact with progressives Citation needed, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:06 AM
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And the birth rates are still falling. So it's not that simple to raise birthrates, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:44 AM
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These women talk as if they were having sex with any man that messaged her. Even before trump got elected the first time, women avoided most men due to safety concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:37 AM
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Women here on Reddit have said that they are doing it for revenge, not because they are scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:36 AM
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Yes i totally believe that there is no possible behavior that is creepy. Me and everybody on this sub agrees. Totally people here agree that there are no creepy behavior I walk up to women and call them whores on the spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:46 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:19 AM
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Nothing to do with men's issues, everything to do with economy, immigration. Men have always voted more republican, and despite the narratives, its older men who vote more for trump, younger ones vote kamala more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:07 AM
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Well to me its extreme to compare sex with picnics, you do you. If the analogy sticks, then you would be ok with "Thats cool" and then goes to have sex with her friends? The argument is simply that "its not a big deal to refuse to do something to your current SO when he wants it, but you did to your ex" It would sound odd to everyone in a new relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:04 AM
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<image> 37%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:28 PM
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I don't think you understood, he's mocking the term "BIPOC"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:27 PM
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we're about to literally be in a handmaid's tale Holy shit the US election results never fail to deliver
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:05 PM
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Lady, i voted for harris, i helped you, can you help me? Black lives matter, and the black matter in my pants is ALIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:55 PM
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This is the whole point of disagreeing with the original poster, lol. You don't do it because you like your new partner less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:48 PM
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Op is a black man wanting to score more points with the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:46 PM
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The whole point is the current one wants something, gets denied, but discovers the person gave the same to an ex. This makes the situation more upsetting. Its quite obvious that a guy that doesn't say you're beautiful when you wanted him to say it, but he did the same with his ex, that he doesn't like you as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:44 PM
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The first person on this chain said women should hide this stuff from the boyfriends, as if it was wrong for them to ask this in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:05 PM
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So the likewise romance-denying person is not entitled to her partner staying. Why is only the girl that wants romance/man that wants anal the bad person here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:52 PM
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She can leave, but it is not entitlement at all for the girl to be upset and leave based on the fact that he won't do romance with her, but did with her ex. And it would not be bad for her to become upset if the man hides it from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:42 PM
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How delusion. Every woman ever would simply say that the man loves his ex more. It's not about staying, but interest. Would you ever call a woman entitled if she left the guy because he did those things with his ex and doesn't want with her? Would you ever be ok with the guy not saying this? Instead saying that he simply doesn't like doing this kind of stuff, and then later find out he used to do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:42 PM
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and when did I support this double standard? Since the beginning i'm saying promiscuous people are bad partners not just women. Don't drag me to your strawmans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 01:40 PM
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It's not different, quite a lot of men that are steady drinkers do not beat up their wives. It's literally the same rationale. It's correlation not causation, alcohol doesn't inherently make you more violent. The promiscuity stats includes men. I'm all in for women not wanting to marry promiscuous men. If you think there's a double standard here, you're not reading properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:16 PM
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Do you read? But you didn't like it now you're not doing it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:57 AM
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Tell your next girlfriend that you did all that with your Ex: Constantly reassured your love and complimented her appearence Made love letters And elaborated presents Enthusiastically went on multiple travels with her around the word. Gave her relaxing massages But you didn't like it now you're not doing it anymore. Tell me how satisfied she will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:32 AM
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Multiple published research shows that promiscuous people are associated with higher likelyhood of infidelity and divorce. Just like steady alcohol consumption in men is associated with higher rates of domestic violence. Is it wrong for a woman to not want to date a steady drinker based on this, should she ignore everything and only look at the future? Complete nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:23 AM
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Can we make a rule that cuckold posts are automatically removed? My eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 11:18 AM
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Published research shows that promiscuous people are more likely to cheat and divorce. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513802001496 https://www.athensjournals.gr/social/2017-4-4-3-Pinto.pdf https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability#:~:text=Women%20with%2010%20or%20more,the%20least%20likely%20to%20divorce. So it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:56 AM
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Husband killing wife and the reverse is a milenar enterprise. Men don't need to be RP to kill their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:21 PM
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What violence did the now quarantined RP sub incite? What violence did the now deleted "Incels without hate" incite?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:14 PM
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Please, not a boy,’ I hissed at my sister Harriet. ‘If it’s a boy, I’ll just die. I can only deal with one man in my life... and sometimes that’s one too many.’ Please don’t condemn me. I know very little about boys, coming from a family of all girls, but what I have seen I really haven’t liked. Boys are gross; they attack their siblings with sticks, are obsessed with toilets, casually murder local wildlife and turn into disgusting teenage boys and then boring, selfish men. Do you think this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 01:38 PM
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Well the government is already super worried about a minority called incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:29 PM
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For much less entire "incels" subs are nuked here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:27 PM
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My view is a bit different, i believe that men just don't really like much each other to begin with, we are much more competitive and have a hard time creating spaces that are for practical benefit for men by men, like women do. Common is the trope that women hate each other, but curiously women are far more likely to stand up for each other and fight for their gender(even when they're worng) than men are. Women will create groups such as "Are we dating the same guy" To discover fuckboys messing…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:52 PM
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And I bet a lot of guys would love a woman to ignore a man's initial rejection so he can be promiscuous and "make mistakes" coming back to the "good girl arms" after he "wakes up". Both of those situations are bad for the person being settled with. It's not women or men, getting with people that want you solely as a safety net for their "past mistakes" is getting used by someone who don't love you. Beta buxx and the situation OP is describing that "shy girl wins" are both bad for the "winner" A …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:05 PM
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A woman that rejects you and "has her fun" young and then comes back to you wanting to marry in exchange for money and security never liked you. That's what BB means The counterpart of this is the Madonna whore complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 02:01 PM
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She is 34, will shs finally get noticed at 50? See the next episode.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:57 AM
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They are settling for the BB because they could not get the man they wanted. And he constantly will have to compensate for this for not being the person the woman wanfed in the first Place Being settled for is bad. With the AF, the woman will have sex, intimacy, provide attention and even sometimes money, all for free. The BB has to pay to get intimacy, sex and attention, and has to have a slew of additional qualities to keep the woman around to compensate for lack of attraction. One has a clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:53 AM
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They do tho, its the whole point why getting settled for is bad.(and in the case of the BB, having to pay for it, lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:21 PM
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Schizoing with blackpill call outs because you know its the exact same shit. Just the good old fantasy that the bullied ones will be exalted once they get older, the pretty girls will give up on the jocks, the nice guys will give up on the popular girls. Fantasy, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:17 PM
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Please don't fill this already BS ridden space with more Bullshit, namely mbti.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:12 PM
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You and the other 15 women he tried to date. At some point the bullshit is just evident. And his supposed "qualities" as a good partner are irrelevant. No male or female gaslighting allowed. Say no to drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:09 PM
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For me, the idea of a dating a shy, homebody woman who just likes reading, crocheting, drinking tea and looking out at the rain sighing sounds really boring. Literally me and my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:07 PM
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You're just giving the same excuse women do when a man is jaded with relationships. Its gaslighting to mean its always the "good person's" fault for not choosing better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:03 PM
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You're the one regurgitating typical red pill delusions that get posted on recent manosphere spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:59 PM
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"Did you date a hoe? Hoes are more likely to be bored with decent nice guys"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:58 PM
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I get on the side of the manosphere when they say women virtue signal too much on dating, but then they pull this bullshit. Yeah yeah, buddy, i believe, men are the virtuous gender, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:56 PM
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This kind of nonsense is at the same level as "Women don't care about your looks, its your personality that counts" Or "You're a wonderful man, just not for me, i'm sure you will find a partner for you, you're great! Women would love a caring, attentive and nice man." Just gaslighting from the men's side.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:48 PM
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Would? This would only happen if the non lazy fat social media addicted women would want him. If you get men to improve on a population level, but no change on the women's quality, the only thing that will happen is sharper competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:42 PM
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Depends, if i rejected them to go to mate with a more attractive person, yes i'm an eugenicist, otherwise, no. Eugenics require active attempts at improving the gene pool. Someone who doesn't want kids, for example, isn't an eugenicist by definition. I'm not upset, just saying that eugenics is not only evil dudes on a laboratory messing with the genome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:37 PM
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What you think is irrelevant, the population trend of women's mate preferences makes muscularity not be a consistent desirable trait like Face, height and money, for example. https://www.psypost.org/interactions-between-height-and-shoulder%e2%80%91to%e2%80%91hip-ratio-influence-womens-perceptions-of-mens-attractiveness-and-masculinity/ More muscles don't make short men more attractive. The effect of attractiveness for tall men is very small. Another problem with muscularity is that many men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 10:35 PM
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Interested? No, since i'm not ugly myself. Do you think that it somehow its not eugenics? I would be an eugenicist if i was able to select mates, but i don't have the power to do that, i'm the selected one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:48 PM
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most men who are lazy gamers do not. Says who? Body/fat positivity is an extreme niche on social media Body positivity is already mainstream. And obese people certainly are not niche. Obese lazy gamer improves to get... Obese lazy lady addicted to social media Hooray self improvement!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:41 PM
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There is little correlation between raw muscularity and perceived genetic fitness because muscularity is, even with a genetic facilitator, an acquired trait. Muscular father does not make muscular son more likely. Therefore, not much selection torwards muscular men happens. Height, Facial attractiveness, Money, status, intelligence, and even personality consistently score above muscularity in terms of selected attractive traits by women. Primitive populations have very few muscular men, the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:36 PM
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Eugenics (/juːˈdʒɛnɪks/ yoo-JEN-iks; from Ancient Greek εύ̃ (eû) 'good, well' and -γενής (genḗs) 'born, come into being, growing/grown')\1]) is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population.\2])\3])\4]) Yes. One example of eugenics is height selection. Taller men are more likely to have kids (because they are selected more by women), thereby increasing average height in humans. Natural and sexual selection are eugenicist by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:30 PM
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Not really, the beauty trends could be obese women seeing body positivity content. Oh, btw, i was a lazy gamer man, didn't prevent me from scoring a job. The lazy gamer man might also be streaming on twitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:24 PM
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Did the guy above delete his answers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:45 PM
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Men will have high standards if they improves. My brother, the problem with online dating is that every attractive dude is willing to date and fuck everything that moves. Disabled women are dating above average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:33 PM
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Even the tall girls are complaining that short women go for men much taller than them, basketball level. Overall preference for women of all heights is taller men, everything over 180cm is better than everything under 180
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:26 PM
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Too tall is still better than short. Guys with 2m have more options than guys with 170cm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:25 PM
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Not when the counterpart of the "lazy gamer men" is the social media addicted woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:23 PM
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I would use the infinite money to get ultra rich. Then use the rest of the infinite money to build nuclear power plants everywhere for fun. Oh wait, only for dating? Stopping global warming helps more people date in the future. I would then use the rest of the infinite money to cause recreational inflation crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:18 PM
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Being a valid reason(debatable) is different from being the reason. You'd be surprised how often men and women tolerate bad behavior and not divorce, but then divorce out of boredom, lack of attraction, and falling in love with someone else. So far,this is speculation and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:08 PM
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Not what I asked. I'm talking about source that women divorce more because of housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:16 PM
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If you're simply not feeling it, its not ok to leave because it harms your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:18 AM
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Citation needed that women divorce more because men do less housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 11:17 AM
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He is already too old for that. People should not skip relationships to go monk mode during school, but he is already too late on the ride, this advice would work on a 22 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:31 PM
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Remember pews method for collecting data is cold calling, that means we could be getting a unrepresented sample pertaining to the 18-29 group Since when? Pew Research Center conducted this study to better understand single Americans, from their romantic goals to their experiences with online dating. This survey was conducted among 6,034 U.S. adults from July 5-17, 2022. This included 4,996 respondents from the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP), an online survey panel that is recruited through…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 09:12 PM
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The only pathetic person is you who knows jack shot about statistics and goes around saying the sample size is small. Randomized samples to collect information about populations of millions of people don't need to extend to more than a few thousand. https://www.calculator.net/sample-size-calculator.html?type=1&cl=95&ci=2&pp=50&ps=1000000&x=Calculate You could read this and acquire actual knowledge instead of regurgitating ignorance and accuse a statistical research of rage bait just because you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:40 PM
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60% single men from 18-30. Around 30 % single women on this range. 30-45 we have 20-30% single both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:44 PM
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Bad idea, unless you want to get metooed . Don't go looking for people in places that social interaction is not assumed. College is the time and place for people to find their mates, when the time runs out there,.only a friend's group can help. And that is less than 30% of the daring market. Online dating is reality now. 60% of new couples form there. With people socializing less and less, this is not going to become better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:41 PM
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It's not going to be easy to find since online dating consists of 60%+ new couples , and then you have clubs and bars which is likewise shallow. 30% of the dating space left.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:36 PM
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Most college students have jack shit though. Worse, they have debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 05:30 PM
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Then this relationship is only causing more problems to his life, he should leave and sort it out, regardless of his future love endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:00 PM
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If thats so nobody should start dating in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:51 PM
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Multiple breakups during the relationship of a year or so Breaking up with the same woman over and over? If so, he should leave regardless. If not, only if the relationships are getting in the way of career.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:50 PM
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The biggest contributors are: Prohibitive cost to multiple kids Women choosing to have no kids in favour of career. Or simply having less kids to not bother the career as much Obviously, much more prevalent use of contraceptives Participation of women in the workforce is much more correlated with decreasing birthrates https://scholars.fhsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1426&context=sacad Income for men consistently correlates with more kids on recent days. The relationshio for women is that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:23 PM
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I never said you did, i said you could do the same with 25 year olds and the results would look similar to the ones you posted there. With a massive fall post the cutoff, because you're lumping a fertile group with multiple groups with low fertility. Its a bad way to show drop off in fertility, you could just plot it per age like its done here. https://www.britishfertilitysociety.org.uk/fei/at-what-age-does-fertility-begin-to-decrease/ That way you can see there isn't significant difference betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:05 PM
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Freezing eggs can't be late, if a woman decides to freeze mid 30s its already late. If a woman manages to get a career to support the huge cost of egg freezing by 28 then i agree its a failsafe, but most people will only get enough resources to do so mid 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:59 PM
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It also means that even when they want it, it's too late. Career woman that decides to not have kids and woman that decided to settle down at 40 and fail to have kids enter the same statistic for lack of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:36 AM
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In a terrible way, because I'd you lumped 25 yr old men with older, you would also see they are less fertile than under 25, but no sane person you argue that 25 is old, which is what you tried to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 11:34 AM
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Men Will struggle to reproduce post 45 the same way a 35 year old will struggle to reproduce. Past some point a woman can't reproduce anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:28 AM
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The whole woman having biological clock was invented by a male journalist in the 1970’s I guess you can invent things that have always existed. Totally what you meant. You guys don't read what you write.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:26 AM
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Menopause is false folks. Women prior to 1970 were having kids in their 50s all the time. Ever older, remember Abraham story?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:02 AM
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Women in their dating pool have already had kids and dont want more Women are having kids later, not sooner. >Another study of intrauterine artificial insemination found that after six cycles, men who were 35 or under had a fertility rate of 52%, whereas men over the age of 35 had a fertility rate of 25%" Does this tell you that when a man turns 35 a switch turns on his balls and he suddenly goes from 52 to 25? You're lumping 35 year old men with 45, 55, 65, it's obvious that the fertility will …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 10:00 AM
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Male circumcision reduces male pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:53 PM
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As much objectification as K-dramas portrayal of men love interest as rich handsome CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:42 PM
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Women have schrodingers intuition They can sense an incel loser, whiner, mysogynistic guy, hence why you don't get dates, even if they don't know the guy. Yet complain about situationships, shitty boyfriends, abusive and unfaithful exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:39 PM
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Get better reading comprehension and stop strawmanning Hope i helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:34 PM
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The thing is, he probably still won't get as much unnatractive women anyway. What women (and men) fail to understand is that in the modern dating landscape, the problem is that women have too many options. Disabled women and fat women will get access to above average man. All because these men are willing to fuck everything that moves. Then, by supply and demand, why would a below average woman, who has access to above average man right off the bat, pick a "self improved buff midget"? Online dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:26 PM
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Yeah but money works to get sex, golddigging or otherwise. If you are in search of true love then its another talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:14 PM
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Getting attention doesn't imply getting success. Men are using masked heels to increase their height, they get more attention of women, until they realize that he's not that tall. If you do not have the perceived qualities, frauding it can help you get away with attracting more, until they realize you're just pretending. There is enough makeup and filters online to transform an ogre into a princess, its still not a good idea to bank into those things when you don't actually have the qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:02 PM
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My guy, women needed men to survive in this period, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:47 AM
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Women in women sub precisely complain about putting effort to attract men beause "They just care about looks" and "Only want you for sex". So all in all its just bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:30 AM
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I'm just showing you're desperate for attention, you can keep doing whatever you like, i'm going to keep pointing it out, because the RULES OF THE SUB disavow ranting. You just ignore the replies of men Me: Replies to the majority of them. This is what you quote You just ignore the replies of men that say they did what you suggest, it failed[...] This is what i wrote. Thank you for proving my point, you are dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:24 AM
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This is scientific truth, the best determinant of mating success in all animals is genetic quality. Hence why women heavily select for Height(genetic) and Face(genetic), body shape(genetic) and much less for muscles(mostly aquired) And men select for face(genetic), body shape(Genetic), fat distribution(genetic), when they can, at least, without options anything goes. Traits above are what is first and foremost correlated to succesful dating, for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:18 AM
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Here is a manosphere place, so more men will flock here. If you go to places where women flock too, you will see the same complaints "Men are shallow" "They just want you for sex" and the like, as a justification to "not put in effort"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:14 AM
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The men that you refer "don't put in effort" are the same ones that are putting effort in things like looksmaxxing. They are just calling you on your bullshit on the recommendations that don't work. No one here has ever said not getting rich or hot would not work. They just disagree with the 3rd point, which is very much true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:13 AM
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Your posts are just rants with 0 evidence, 0 research and just you wanting to megaphone to the entire sub of how you disliked the opinions of some men here. You're just transforming your individual discussions with people of this sub into everyone else's business. You just ignore the replies of men that say they did what you suggest, it failed, then they did something else that you didn't recommend, and it worked, rightfully call you on your bullshit, and you pretend you didn't see anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 11:09 AM
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He is responding to you with his interpretation of your post, i'm clarifying his interpretation of your post. Glad you can understand you're not the center of the universe. His interpretation of your post is that it is rubbish and physical appearence is all that matters Someone else comes out and says its the profile improvement, this was never mentioned, thus i say he isn't talking about profile improvement, but physical appearence. Whether or not his interpretation of your post is wrong is irr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:57 AM
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Irrelevant because I'm talking not about your OP, but the reply of someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:56 AM
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Women objectification = showing women with revealing clothing. The only reason to be bothered by this is because you're not the target audience. So, hate for no reason. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuFlRs6KQMU&pp=ygUvdmlkZW8gZ2FtZXMgYXBwZWFsIHRvIHRoZSBtYWxlIGZhbnRhc3kgb3JpZ2luYWw%3D
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 10:36 PM
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Woman seethe a lot against video games with sexualized characters who have their target audience as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 10:33 PM
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OP is not a woman? I thought so by seeing succubus, but it's a man, read too fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:59 PM
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There is a population of women online complaining that men aren't approaching. So there are a lot of opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:26 PM
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If one side is telling you to get away, while at the same time wanting you to pursue, its better to simply leave them alone. I do believe that more men should just take the feminist stance of "We don't owe you shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:21 PM
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The other post was a shitshow, it went from women assuming a virgin guy at 25 is a psycopath to being a religious zealot to the few ones who said no problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:17 PM
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In find it weird that women assume automatically that a guy who doesn't pursue will become celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:16 PM
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Courting the woman, basically being the first to show interest and being the one to convince her to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:15 PM
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Dodged the question, moved the goalpost. Bb
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 07:05 PM
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You can, when the guy is not attractive, there is another video of the same person doing this same experiment and getting almost no response, because he wasn't attractive. More evidence to what i say. Its funny that you provide 0 evidence while i do, and you simply say "well thats not enough". Show me yours. More videos for you. https://youtu.be/5cDeoy6Ds3M?si=9rd2b6lhgNbgvujV&t=22 https://youtu.be/EFnJMPQow7A?si=DHKt9P_UNb_pT4pM&t=96 https://youtu.be/7x5oTZs6Bp0?si=PyiyVJ_MEAqR7b54&t=90 How muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:14 PM
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I'm presenting you with evidence while you keep yapping. "Women don't want to have sex" is what is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:56 PM
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Nothing to do with profile, everything to do with appearance. You didn't read what he wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:56 PM
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No, why should i sent stuff from my personal life just to please a strange? haha. Yeah there is always a risk. Risk for a man to also be locked to a kid, just like the woman. Abortion, contraceptives. If there is no interest to have kids, how is sex for women a "bad" thing? If this was all that mattered, women would never do casual sex. But they do, without any expectation of dinner, all the time, we aren't in the 1900s anymore. If you're an attractive man, women will approach you and ask for se…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:47 PM
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Citation needed. Just a dose of reality for you: https://youtu.be/Ks_dZgzwDg4?si=_J7KiDUyhG2d2ZwL&t=309 Woman hate sex with you and the people you know because you ain't attractive. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:44 PM
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I'm not using one woman from a deleted video to say all are like that, just rebuffing that this is a good strategy. It isn't, you have no proof of that either. Just telling the men that they can "stand out" more and will still get rejected anyway. Also, i have a wife so calling my view self defeatist is hilarious. I just didn't use bad strategies like the ones you mention. There are also other examples, such was one short guy who dressed well, good looking and also that had "interesting hobbies"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:32 PM
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I'm not attractive, but regardless, she specifically said tha the "confident outgoing" persona didn't appease her and asked me to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 03:30 PM
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This advice is mostly pointless because while it can make you stand out more, you are still unlikely to get a match anyway. Its effort to still not match, i'd say just leave the dating apps. There is a video (which is now unavailable on youtube) of a 30 year old woman swiping on tinder. She instantly rejects most of the men, then she sees one with an interesting picture, looks at his profile, sees more interesting qualities(good job, interesting hobbies, like pets she likes), looks like its gonn…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:20 PM
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That all men need sex in their lives otherwise they are rejecting their true nature and will go insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:57 AM
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This is massive overthinking and exaggeration. People that are obsessed with something will likely have 0 time to even get a date and will struggle everywhere socially, with family, friends, work... It's not a dating problem first and foremost, it's a life one. If anything, women are far more obsessed with social media than men are with video games. But this kind of addiction is far more socially acceptable. I would seriously not be surprised if a woman says that she sees so social media often. …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:50 AM
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Oh I have a wife, I don't need you attempt to Shame me for lack of sex, it fails. I agree with your points, except the third because men and women will date bad people and reject people that treat them right all the time. Being polite and nice doesn't make people horny. But you still didn't answer why is it bad to ask for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:45 AM
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Oh your poor guy. You also believe this lie. Women hate sex with you/the average guy. When they are with someone they are sexually attracted to, they are very much like men with their libido and their tolerance of things they would otherwise dislike. All of this here is just the response to the average guy. IRL, tons of experiments in tinder have shown women simply ask for sex straight up to an attractive guy, and being slutty upfront, responding lewd messages positively and so forth without any…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:42 AM
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Honestly focus on what you want. If you want a quick bang, be upfront, if you want to meet someone first, then ask for a date. Its really nor worth it to ruminate about the kind of stuff that is very subjective in the first place. The only dating advice that works is to get more attractive other than that just find someone that likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:11 PM
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My wife doesn't like oral as much because she likes kissing a lot during sex and the smell grosses her out. She orgasms almost all the time with PIV positions where the clit is stimulated. And is far harder to please with direct stimulation. Got a lot of classes on tongue techiniques to no avail.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 08:05 PM
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The wall is just red pill cope. 30s women still have much higher SMV than men. Redpill just assumes that every 30s men is a succesful business men with a 6 figures salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:55 PM
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De facto does not exist on all countries. In any case, the judges can always just tear down any agreement regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:44 PM
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Women aren't entitled to shit. She is a grown adult and can leave anytime she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:40 PM
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Luckily consenting on not marrying is totally ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:36 PM
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Duck herding? I'm interested now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:23 PM
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they flock to the rock star. For every axl rose there are 1000 of guys who are playing to the girl they like and getting rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:23 PM
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Because skills/hobbies don't produce sexual attraction Skills and hobbies are useful for compatibility, lifestyle, living together, but they don't cause you to become sexually desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:21 PM
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No, based on what you're saying, being a frontman of a band with a crazy voice making tons of 10s leak over you. This is something only rock stars have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:26 PM
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No, people are sufficiently different so you can find someone compatible with you. Dating isn't a job interview. Lots of boring people are happy with other boring people by doing boring people stuff together. One does not need to find interesting people, instead, compatible people that you're attracted with. I'm not anything remarkable, i am shy, reserved, closed. I fell for a girl and listened to the kind of advice you told me here, get better hobbies, improve, be charismatic. She mid date aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:24 PM
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You just missed the time period where these same men where the ones listening to self improvement, learn an instrument, learn to talk to women, women like funny guys, and all the common sense stuff that every guy hears from early age. Yet none of this worker, they all got no girlfriends. Now they are lashing out against the advice that didn't work. And you are mad at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:20 PM
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The truth: If you're attractive, your unnatractive hobbies will become more attractive Gamer = not attractive Henry cavill, gamer, building a pc = Uh so hot! Expert rubix cube solver? Not attractive https://www.tiktok.com/@rubiksofficial/video/7243716732370619675 No women commenting, no one saying he's hot. Rubix cube solving while attractive: https://www.tiktok.com/@ness_af/video/7298538085971889454 Women says he's hot and make a big deal about the rubiks cube.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:17 PM
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Finally a good take. I really don't understand these "stop playing video games!!! Its unnatractive!" Bitch i'm playing because i like it, not to get chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:06 PM
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You are saying that ugly people can have lots of sex if they have the status of rock star and athletes that gain millions. Very good advice!!!!! just be gene simmons bro, just be messi, bro. For every messi there are 1000 regular footballers that gain no more than an average salary that are complaining they don't get matches on tinder. For every gene simmons there are 1000 of guitar playing guys who asked a girl out with a guitar and got rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:03 PM
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Yeah, fuck that, men should not make their whole lives about getting women. Not only will that not work, it will also make you a slave and miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:56 PM
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You can read a lot of trash books. Lots of "readers" will read about pseudoscientific nonsense like self help books, "spirituality to succeed in life" Or will simply read fiction books, which is basically the same as playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:56 PM
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No, what i mean is that the boring average people are perfectly dateable. The exciting top % of people usually get along with themselves. So looking for them when you yourself are not one, or looking to appease boring people by being interesting is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:53 PM
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So how is that, for example, there were groups of rockstars that did not yet have a high level of status, or resources and were not super attractive looks wise that were able to have sex with tons of women? All it took for them was charisma/social skills and of course the correct hobbie/skill (music) to get these women. There are guys just like that who struggle with dating. You're just seeing the examples of the ones who succeded. Survivorship bias. Without a proper sample size, these guys simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:51 PM
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Statistically most people. Because most people are boring. So most of the time boring goes for boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:47 PM
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unscientific nonsense. Men and women value physical attractiveness over everything else. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date was physical attractiveness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5640931_Sex_Differences_in_Mate_Preferences_Revisited_Do_People_Know_What_They_Initially_Desire_in_a_Romantic_Partner https://pancake…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:44 PM
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Most people are boring, average, nothing much to stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:35 PM
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Being a people pleaser is a slave lifestyle. Do what you LIKE to do, not what makes you more interesting to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:34 PM
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Video games are hobbies, as much as watching movies, series, playing cards...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:33 PM
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Charisma/social skills is a very innacurate/unreliable way to get dates. You can get a lot of friends with charisma, but plenty of charismatic people get no dates. Why? Attraction is not negotiable. I tried being charismatic and "able to convey stories" while dating my wife. She cringed and asked me to stop, because she liked me for being shy and closed. One should strive for compatibility, not to have a personality that pleases most. Personality only dictates how good it is to hang out and live…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:32 PM
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Hobbies are attractive when they exist in a sufficiently attractive person. Henry cavill, gamer, building pc = Hot Overall opinion of gamers = Not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:27 PM
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You still can't know that. But even if they are, its better for a guy looking for sex to be upfront and filter until he finds the niche he has more success with, than try to appeal to a wider audience with way more effort involved and way more uncertainty. Ask for sex. If rejected , you lost 1 second of your life. Keep going until you find one that is looking for a casual hookup. Better than "going easy" and getting a lot of dates where the woman refuses to have sex with you in the end, lots of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:18 PM
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dating apps and hook up apps like tinder are the same thing. Some people use to date first, other for casual sex, again, excluding this just because you can't accept that there are many people who are ok with being upfront is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:53 PM
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Again, you're confusing things again, somone can become more ATTRACTIVE to you for some reason unrelated to physical traits. But the physical attractiveness is described as "Physical traits deemed attractive" A good personality won't make a jawline sharper or boobs bigger, this is what was being measured in the experiment. And it was found out that raw physical traits were more important. I really don't know why is mentioning yourself and being mad that i don't consider your experience relevant …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:47 PM
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Never seen a reply mentioning two consenting adults planning to never get married cause so much rage, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:29 PM
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Keep seething, the woman is free to do what she wants;
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:27 PM
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If they're cool with it, what is the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:26 PM
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Lots of women insist on keep working enough to have their own money in the marriage to become less vulnerable when divorce happens, even if they trust their husband. There is nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:25 PM
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Wrong, this applies to worldwide, mainly because places with huge populations, such as india, have extremely skewed ratios https://np.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/165lsmp/tinder_gender_ratios_as_of_may_2023/ In europe the its 50% men, 50% women, USA 65-35. Also, just because the ratio favours men, it doesn't mean most women are out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:17 PM
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What you think is meaningless because it doesn't mean it is true. Besides, it doesn't matter, most men will only date a small set of women. If a guy can find a niche that he does well with, its far better than trying to appeal to a wider audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:07 PM
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Ratio is skewed by countries like india. Europe is 50-50 male and females.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:06 PM
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Don't dodge the question, i asked if you would find it offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:03 PM
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Literally nonsensical, physical attractiveness is only for physical traits, the researchers specifically separated it, and if you were even correct, the personality would never fall behind, because, according to you, they go hand in hand. You don't get to simply dismiss the whole result because of your nonsensical remarks. Besides your provide 0 evidence anyway, just your opinion. My wife literally asked me mid date when we were dating to stop trying to be charismatic, because she liked me as re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 03:03 PM
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If my wife asks me for sex without me showing interest. She is sexually harassing me? No. Because that is not the definition, neither is the definition the article uses. When you're on a hook up app, getting asked for sex is expected. If getting asked for sex was harassment, getting asked for anything when you don't want it would. So if a woman went up to me on a dating site asking for a date without me asking her to send me a message, she would be harassing me. The link defines harassment as "C…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:59 PM
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Yeah, a hook up app which is reality now. 60%+ couples form through online dating. So you're excluding a whole set of dating just to say something you particularly think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:18 PM
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Citation needed on everything you say. Plus, does it matter? Women even on speed dating SAY they want personality first, but act otherwise, so it simply mentions how what women say vs what they want differs. So it doesn't really help to ask them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:16 PM
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Your analogy only works if you think that sex is a benefit to men, and not to women. A woman having sex to a man is akin to someone giving money to another? If thats so, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:14 PM
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It cannot, this is not what the link says. And "sexual messages" encompass many things that are not asking for sex. If you really think that asking for sex on a dating site is harassment, you are seriously mentally ill This isn't a gendered issue either , women also send sexual messages asking for sex. Plus, its "sexually explicit messages" asking for sex isn't explicit, saying things like "i want to fuck you doggy raw" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:03 PM
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Don't drop links on me thinking I'm not going to read it. The link says that women (57%)experience persistent messages after they STATE THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED or they receive explicit messages . This has nothing to do with asking sex upfront to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:58 PM
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Sex is not a transation where women gives something to men without getting nothing back. Women want casual sex too, and they also do it without expecting "something in return". We're not in the 1900s anymore. The problem is not free sex, but who to "give" free sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:52 PM
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Why is wanting free sex a bad thing? Do you not think women want casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:51 PM
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All nonsense, women want casual sex, like men, without any strings attached. This is not the 1900s anymore. There is 0 problem in stating you want sex from someone if you're on a dating app, men and women do this, and it works, no reason to get offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:49 PM
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If you're on the street, sure. If you're on tinder... what are you doing there then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:47 PM
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How offensive is if a woman comes to you and say "Hey, want to have sex?" On tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:41 PM
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No, logic test Statement 1: A->B (if women, bad advice about women) then Statement 2: A-->C(if women, good advice about men) Statement 1 does not imply statement 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:37 PM
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Requesting sex is offensive? Are you on the 1900s? Do you think that women don't simply want casual sex and simply message men they want to bang with "wanna have sex?" How naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:33 PM
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Most women complain about this on tinder and most dating app Citation needed. I would say it's about as rude and in poor taste as a woman asking you how much money you make after a few interactions. Like an excuse me? This comparison is hilarious, what does how much i earn have anything to do with sex? Contrary to your prude belief, asking to have sex upfront has everything to do with sex. Just because you dislike it, it doesn't mean that everyone, nor most people, does. The comparison is also h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:21 PM
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When women are quite clear they want relationship False, we're not in the 1900s anymore, women want casual sex as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:17 PM
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None of them are reliable, your evidence being unreliable does not make opposite unreliable evidence reliable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:11 PM
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My point is that there is no downside of not being explicit anyway, its better for both parties. You can't really assure me that people won't come over to others houses and will have sex all the time. This woman here disagrees https://youtu.be/Y4E8qEDi_xg?si=9C-fNP09NAvZAdSu&t=107 So here is a quick disproval of your thesis, just stating the obvious that your experience is not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:10 PM
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It does not, data can only provides direction if its reliable. A properly randomized, non self reported data would give you some direction, not asking people about their sexual lives when there is stigma associated with it, this is close to useless. There is a study about height vs sexual partner count, showing that short guys can still have lots of sexual partners. The researchers themselves comment how the fact that self reporting can introduce numerous biases, such as the fact that people wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 01:04 PM
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Your experience is pointless, its not a data point to describe the average experience. Many people go first to restaurants, movies, parks, when scheduling a tinder date. This is just you refusing to accept that there are different experiences of people in these situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:59 PM
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Its not rude, this happens in tinder all the time, and works all the time. Men and women will message with each other saying "Wanna bang" and go out to bang. If sex is assumed, there is no rudeness in sending sexual messages. You're all either stuck in the 1900s or you are simply unwilling to admit that being upfront about sex is not a bad thing because it makes you look bad or something. Using your own logic, the fact that YOU dislike explicit texting does not make your experience (of which exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:58 PM
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No, it simply means the evidence is unreliable, men lie about height, penis size, not really surprising if they lie about sexual partners. Self reported evidence is useless when its prone to be influenced by hawthorne effect. There is also self selection bias, the people who are more likely to want to talk about their sexual lives are the ones that have the most succesful ones. Virgin man don't like to announce they are virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:55 PM
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It does have upsides, there are people who are turned off by this kind of "game", and many men have complaining about dates not progressing to sex when scheduled in dating apps. Assuming that a tinder date will progress to sex automatically because it was scheduled is naive. Many many people use tinder for multiple dates before sex and many people get turned off of sex during the date. Filtering out this situations by being upfront is going to save you time, if sex is your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:52 PM
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Its not, men and women want physical attractiveness first and foremost, "personality and charming" are what women say they want, but when you analyze their dating preferences, its not. Incorrect, both men and women exhibit their first criteria for a succesful date as physical attractiveness. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:49 PM
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Women tend to like a little mystery. This is not the 1900s anymore, women and men are upfront about wanting sex now. Tinder things go "Wanna bang?" to sex on both sides often. Specially if you are attractive, if you are, all the BS about charisma is complete hogwash anyway. There are a lot of tinder experiments where attractive catfishes got away with every lack of charisma in the book. This kind of advice is simply useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:47 PM
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Plenty of people are upfront with wanting sex and have no hard feeling associated with it. Its naive to think that tinder is a place where people assume traditional courtship. No people will message each other "want to fuck at (says time and place)" and just go and do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:44 PM
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Sexual texts on dating apps happen and work all the time. The fact that it is assumed that sex is the goal makes sexual texts more appropriate, not less. Men and women flood each other (when attractive) DMs with simples "wanna bang"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:42 PM
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I think this stems from confusing attraction vs partnership. Someone who is neurotic will be difficult to deal with for family, friends and SO alike. Some personality traits can make you harder to live together and be compatible, but sexual attraction transcends that, hence why lots of "bad people" manage to get constant relationships, in fact, people with narcisistic, neurotic traits are considered to being more seductive when they have social presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 12:38 PM
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Nonsensical BS. Don't try to make bro culture a science, Rizz is positively going not for what women do, but what they say. All the talk about personality and "being fun, having fun conversation" is all women talk about. The reality is that Physical attractiveness and status is the first parameter for female physical attractiveness. Rizz is just that, a pseudosciencie , like astrology. 0 scientific evidence on any pick up techniques working, again, just men coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 10:12 AM
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It is astrology for men because it's a bullshit culture that is used to excuse failures in dating life. Saying you didn't get the girl for lack of Rizz is exactly the same as a women telling she didn't got the guy because of his moon being in Leo or something. There is nothing wrong with trying to figure out, but there is when it involves believing in nonsense. Just accept that you can't make people like you by simply trying hard, and accept those who are actually compatible with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:47 PM
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Acting is faking, charisma isn't necessarily faking. Plus, charisma makes you respected/liked. Plenty of actors are not popular with the general public, nor are very good people to be around(Edward Norton, Amber Heard, the actress of captain marvel...) Yet they are(were) top actors regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:44 PM
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I've also seen multiple comments on serial killer videos of women saying they are good people. That doesn't mean it's the general opinion. Comedian is not a sex appeal profession Singers, doctors, actors, any other profession that has actual status attached over it have sex appeal. Chris rock does not have sex appeal, neither does George Carling. They're clowns, make people laugh, not make people want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:42 PM
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Actors can be charismatic, but their sex appeal is not from charisma, bit apperence, otherwise comedians would have a lot of sex appeal, and, tbh, comedians often seem to have negative sex appeal. And no, actors don't have to train how to be charismatic, they need to train how to act. Edward Norton is a very good actor, but far from charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:54 PM
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Stay mad
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:52 PM
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Not related to sexual attraction. Comedians aren't at the top of sex appeal. Handsome people like actors, are. In fact, comedians are very frequently on turbulent relationships, a common source of content for their routines.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:34 PM
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Rizz and game are astrology for men. It doesn't exist and is just a coping mechanics for people who are unsuccessful with dating. Men don't like to accept that they simply aren't good enough for someone full stop, they need to create a narrative that makes them think "if I did x it would work" As if a homeless guy could walk up to people and make them give all the money they have in their wallets by simply saying the correct things. Halo effect will make every personality trait of someone attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:58 PM
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Lol, hilarious. Men aren't entitled to their own children. How about the mother simply hands the kid to the father and moves on? Too hard, right? No, better make the kid EVERYONE ELSE's problem and make the kid be grown not only under taxpayer money, but also without a family, which is recipe for a very bad life for the kid. Enough discussing with braindead people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:27 AM
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Being forced to pay child support is not a right. Not being forced is(should be) I mean I agree, but women CAN run away from it, either via abortion or via safe haven. Also funny to mention that proportionally there are more deadbeat mothers than deadbeat fathers. Safe havens are stupid. Also, abortion isn't a mother relinquishing child support, its her ending her gestation on her body. Men can't do this due to simple biology. Again, you can't have a right you can't physically possess. If a fetu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:38 PM
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Nonsensical take " If you agree that people can kill another in self defense, then you agree murder should be legal, and we just disagree on how and when it should be legal" This is your argument. A child not being forced to pau child support due to rape is not financially aborting, they are just having their rights protected. Nothing is forced upon the father financially that is not for the mother. I don't agree with safe haven laws. Once either parent asks for child support , either parent has…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:26 PM
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The baby is now a problem of the state, ergo, everybody else. This shouldn't be. All that because the mother not only was too lazy to get an abortion, but too lazy to also put the kid to adoption. But you are so hilariously contradictory that you see a problem with father's doing paper abortions, but not with women abandoning their kids full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:17 PM
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That the mother can ignore the existence of the father to unilaterally abandon the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:05 PM
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It has, a father can't drop a child without the mother consent because the mother has automatic custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:01 PM
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You don't see I'm making this argument to make fun of his proposal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:59 PM
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No, it's not fair. I don't see how this is relevant. This law shouldn't exist. However, women, like men. Are not allowed to escape child support if the other parent has custody and asks for it. If men could get pregnant, they would have access to abortion. It's nonsensical to ask for a right that the mother doesn't have to a guy just because you can't cope with biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:58 PM
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I've heard this IRL. Other things include "trying to steal the spotlight of "insert someone that deserves it more". "Why does she comes to the party with a full kilogram of cement in her face (talking about makeup)" You don't see how is it toxic to judge a woman just because she isn't into fashion? This is toxic, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:05 PM
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Men and women will have kids without the means to properly support them. In fact, the poorer, the more kids, such is the paradox of fertility. I don't see what this has to do with paper abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:20 PM
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Then how the fuck did you even get to know that they still do it? You asked her to stop, she stopped, but you think she is lying? ahahahhahaha You are unbeliavably dense. You in all likelihood don't even have a partner, and is just inventing stuff with no logic here to make an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:04 PM
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I really don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:03 PM
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If this was not stated previously, no. Monogamous relationship implies monogamy, if no cheating happens, then there is no immorality. If a woman dates a guy who constantly thirsts over instagram models, and doesn't point it out, instead, rolls with it she is in no right to complain when he keeps doing it after commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:02 PM
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umfathomably based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:47 PM
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I agree, however, you can't prevent people from breeding. At least not without some... peculiar... policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:45 PM
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If men did get pregnant they would be eligible for abortion. However, since men can't, they don't have said right. Its simple to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:44 PM
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If you want people to improve, then say it upfront. Not hide it until you get commitment just so you can bitch about something that always bothered you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:15 PM
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mother and father can be exempt from child support if they can prove they can't provide for the child. Mother and father can go to jail for failing to pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:53 PM
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The problem is that people who have no relation to a children to be forced to pay for them will likely cause a revolt. Instead of forcing a father to support his own child, will likely cause just a bit of whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:45 PM
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No they don't, because the child doesn't exist. Once abortion is done, there is no new citizen that needs to be fed and get taken care of. Conversely, a mother or a father opting out of a child support throws the burden at everyone else. Which is nonsensical when these people exist and can provide to their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:43 PM
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Its a better investment for the government to not waste its taxpayer overall money to raise a kid when there is a father right there. Kids are only a net benefit to the state because the parents take care of them. The state would not need to encourage parents to adopt if orphans were a benefit to the state while raised via tax money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:39 PM
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no, abortions pass no burden to society. Read the text again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:37 PM
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I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:34 PM
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Fathers aren't automatically assumed, the woman is the one who says who is the father(and if the father agrees, he gets paternity, if not, DNA will assure the paternity). Likewise, a woman can NOT say who the father is and then drop off the baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:26 PM
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You are incredibly confused, i'm against fathers doing paper abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:04 PM
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The state is there to enforce that such crimes are punished. Again, its all for the child, the child first. Why don't you think of the children?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:55 PM
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He can be seeing the baby 24/7 and the woman still can drop the baby off without him knowing. A sudden disappearence of the mother and the child could mean a dozen of things that are not dropping on a safe haven. Again, if the father DOES NOT KNOW, he can't. Most states are NOT REQUIRED to notice the abandonment. The father could be sick, could be on a businness trip, could be doing anything that prevents him from knowing where the child is, because he won't suspect the mother will do anything c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:48 PM
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Yes, exactly? What part of my text didn't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:45 PM
1

So is calling out jealously for "copying" your style? You can't make this shit up. 99% of the time the dresses aren't even ugly. Its not as if the woman will be known as someone who doesn't know how to dress properly and will be constantly gossiped behind her back. Totally not toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:33 PM
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Nope, the mother has custody rights, the baby being with her is not a concern of the law. Also, the mother isn't forced to tell the father she wants to drop off the baby, all of this can be done anonimously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:31 PM
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If the father of the kid locates the kid and gets custody Lots of IFS here. Anonimity and lack of putative paternity makes this incredibly hard, and if not done quickly, can lead to permanent loss. Even on adoption cases, fathers can lose paternity if they don't act quickly. Also, it doesn't matter. The mother has an option to get rid of child support, fathers don't. Since women have automatic custody, the reverse situation can't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:29 PM
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"The baby will be located" Only if the laws of the state require noticing, most don't. This only works if the father KNOWS that the mother put the baby on a safe haven. If not, though luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:25 PM
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Wrong, raising kids is a net positive to the state. Handing out them to childless couples with lots of money would direct their money to a more productive thing for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:14 PM
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He cannot, women give birth, kid stays with the woman, women have automatic custody. Fathers don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:35 PM
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True, all those single neoliberals accumulating wealth need to raise a kid to quell their instiable money ambitions!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:25 PM
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Nope, she can, and in most states, after the abandonment, no effort is taken to locate the supposed father, the child is assumed abandoned and all parental rights are taken away. The mother can simply drop the kid on a safe haven without him knowing, and roll with it. Anonimity makes it even harder to find the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:24 PM
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Not if the mother simply exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:01 PM
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Women can under safe haven laws. And they can via adoption if they declare the father is unknown.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:58 AM
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Luckily the parent can, via the state, so it doesn't have to bother other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:58 AM
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I'm not supporting laws that make male rape victims liable for child support, and this is not the topic of the OP either. What i argue is that just because women can abort, it is not "fair" that men can paper abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:56 AM
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No, consent is simply the stated will of someone, you can state your will to not pay the bill but this is irrelevant. Its not about consent. "I consented only to drive the car, not to hit the pedestrians". Peak nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:53 AM
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Why is the current generation so obssessed with consent for all nonsensical things? Is eating the food of a restaurant consent to paying the bills? Consent is only relevant when consent is required.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:44 AM
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Yeah, but it doesn't mean that most single people go to clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:39 AM
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The mother that does so is free of child support. Which goes against the idea of "child first" that is used to counter father's paper abortion claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:38 AM
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But women have the option WITH the father existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:32 AM
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Therefore, childless couples should be forced to adopt children, all about the healthy, not in poverty kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:28 AM
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most single people are like that Thats a nice argument senator but why don't you back it up with a SOURCE? Btw, most people i know don't like partying, it doesn't seem like coincidence, i've never associated with these people. They ain't the stereotypical religious people either. I just always made friends with people who weren't about night life and as a result, i've seldom interacted with clubbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:27 AM
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Cool, it still passes an unnecessary burden to society over someone else's mistake. Waste of money and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:25 AM
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Because muh unfairness that women get pregnant and can abort and i don't (As if it was a benefit!)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:51 AM
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Making parents able to opt out of supporting their childs is a bad idea. Abortions have no burden passed to society, the same is not true for child support. If it seems unfair that a woman has the right to not have a kid, a reminder that its also unfair that its the woman who has to take all the health and life risks to conceive a child
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:49 AM
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To be quite blunt here: if men stopped pursuing women with those traits/lifestyles, there wouldn't be almost any relationships, because the vast majority of women have had those traits/lifestyles, and those traits/lifestyles are acceptable and understandable when single to at least some degree You only say that because you're just like them, they're part of your social routine, so you only see them. Me, i don't see many women like that, my wife isn't like that, because by social circle is about …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:15 AM
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Did they change? If yes, why are you complaining? If not, leave. Need more handholding.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:01 AM
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The easiest choice is to not date them? This kind of complaint is the same one that women make to guys who like to go out with friends to get shitfaced, or that watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:53 AM
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>Gets into a commited relationship with hoe >Complains that hoe is hoe. Surprised pikachu moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:39 AM
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"Her dress is horrible, doesn't match with her makeup and shoes" "She came to the party with similar clothing because she is jealous of me"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:17 AM
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Everybody likes clubbing. Its fun, Lmao no and its not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:13 AM
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I don't see what going out to dance with friends has to do with morality. But regardless, its the same thing, overlooked in the dating phase due to physical attraction, trying to change after the relation is secure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 09:11 AM
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Thats a pointless comparison, what would you prefer, you, or you, but smarter? But are you ever competing with yourself out there? No. Even in this scenario, getting more intelligence might change someone's behavior. Average you vs nerd you? Who's more attractive? If its a very smart nerdy guy, out of luck, it comes with a bad social perception, so average you is actually more attractive. It may make you less interested to talk to average people, or more interested in talking about more unpopula…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:49 PM
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No, they want physical attractiveness. Halo effect causes attractive people to be more sociable by default, same happens with status. Published research shows that this "fun personality" is always thrown around as super important for women, but when their actual dating preferences are analyzed, its not, instead, like men, its physical attractiveness. Also no, women aren't dumb, they know the difference between a funny person and an intelligent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:04 PM
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And thats not lack of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:57 PM
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Simply get a partner that is compatible with you and likes to talk to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:47 PM
2

Which isn't OP case anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:46 PM
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Your quoted a self diagnosed gifted kid subreddit as evidence, lol. Yeah, i'm not having basic talk with someone that thinks they're smart, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:09 PM
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Personality trait, not intelligence, or skill. Nobody needs to be able to be fun or please others to be considered normal or intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:06 PM
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Friend, you really need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Not a single time have i said that high IQ people would seldom experience relationship problems, what i said is that High IQ people would seldom engage in the topic you posted (norms about masculinity, lol) Mr. Bumpus says that intelligent people without social skills are usually nerdy. Mr. Bumpus already said this! They aren't. Ms. Mumpus says that romantic relationships require more social skills than other types of relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:31 PM
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I have a wife, i literally watch her put on makeup. You have no idea what natural makeup means, and how NOT often its used and how unnatural it is, not only that, but how hard it is to pull off. May i remind you that 99% of the time i see my wife without makeup, and this is the face i will find attractive, not the one from the party pictures (what my wife does makeup for). Hop on instagram and see how often you see natural makeup tutorials. No, you will see millions of views on makeups with colo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:26 PM
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But its not necessary for that switch to exist, this is what i'm talking about. Just because you're not socially sucessful, it doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. And its just gaslighting to say that people don't like you because you're awkward and doesn't know how to talk. Nerds talk with each other constantly with no problems. The problem is that nerds don't fit in, not that they are socially stunted. Nerds aren't autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:14 PM
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Why then do you want to date this kind of woman? Woman post sexy pics online, men accepts to date her. Men then gets mad that she keeps doing exactly what she did prior to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:08 PM
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Ms. Mumpus says I am saying that if they do not have social skills, then they will be even worse in a relationship. This is heightened for men in particular for a lot of reasons. No, its not, you're not special. And you can stop projecting. Mr. Bumpus says that just because someone who is smart and lacks social skills is usually a nerd, that does not mean nerds are usually smart. They aren't usually a nerd. High IQ people are a different breed, hence why they are called gifted. Nerds are a stere…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:00 PM
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Sure, but if you're dating someone who post half naked pictures online you're a fool for commiting to her if you wouldn't like to see her doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:55 PM
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Correlation/causation problem here. Intelligent philosophers aren't more attractive than an average doctor. Its not the intelligence, but the status/resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:40 PM
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There are levels to this, my wife knew for years i don't post shit on social media, but would then years later complain that i don't post anything about her. This case is not a dealbreaker, but a lot of people need to be aware that this is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:34 PM
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Who says they don't? I'm saying they tend to struggle more on general social contexts. Also, its wrong to call them nerdy, they are gifted, most nerds are average. You are the one needing the finger puppets. Probably stop projecting on an internet thread helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:32 PM
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This woman never heard of the maxim: A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn’t. A man marries a woman expecting that she won’t change, and she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:25 PM
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Terrible reading comprehension and generalizing skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:23 PM
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High IQ is correlated with overal antisocial behavior (but the extent is overrated) for both men and women, and not just on relationship issues. You're not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:21 PM
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"Wow henry cavill building a PC is so hot, i think i'm into nerdy tech guys "- Women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:13 PM
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So your definition of incel is anybody that can't fuck the moment they want? Hilarious. Incels are men that can't get sex at all, these guys are one step away from suicide. Again, compared to cat ladies, the women are in heaven. Goal post moving is not allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:39 PM
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Because you're hot and he overlooked this in the dating phase. After he secured you, he is now trying to change you into a personality he would actually like. This goes both ways tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:36 PM
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Brother do you know the word COMPARED? We're comparing cat ladies with incels, not average men with average women. Incels are super overrepresented in mental illness and suicidal tendencies. Compared to cat ladies they are in a much worse state. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:30 PM
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A whole lot of pseudoscience above... Nerds often can eloquently talk about the subjects they are interested in, they are still considered socially awkward, because the problem isn't how they talk, but what they talk about and how they present themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:27 PM
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STEM nerds aren't simply "socially unintelligent" more so they are not interested in what most people are. I can handle a conversation pretty well, the problem is that what i talk about is boring for most. When i do magic tricks, suddenly, my "social skills" are now good. Curious how this functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:10 PM
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Why can't OP just be a chaste little nerd? I'm not like the other girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 06:07 PM
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Intelligence does not make someone more sexually attractive. It just increases their overall "value" as a person, which would be useful in the context of dating, for someone who is sufficiently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:57 PM
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The good old sapiosexual nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:55 PM
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Both strategies suck, but one involves much less effort, hence its the one that is chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:41 PM
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Make up is mostly for women to women. Women will keep using makeup even when their partners say they don't like it. The complexity of makeup for women far surpasses men's interest in it. Do men care about the quality of Huda beauty? No, but the woman's friends will all care a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:39 PM
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Key word: compared. Compared to incels, yes, cat ladies are very much at nirvana.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:25 PM
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i'm talking about baby girls vs boys. Socialization of boys is about toughening up, girls are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:13 PM
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Yeah, when males are scarce, harems form, men just aren't selective in nature. But it in theory increases their selective power, its just that for a gender that isn't bothered by pregnancy, focusing on one isn't a good strategy. it may be a far better strategy to understand and identify the demographic they want and can attain Thats the problem, they can't attain the demographic they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:10 PM
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So you are essentially reinstating that fashion is for women to women? Yeah, i know. Hence why i am disagreeing with the guy above. But its not simply "play", women's fashion can be pretty toxic. I'm not really fond of hearing women gossiping each other to shreds of clothing and make up. This is where status comes to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 05:03 PM
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Makeup transcends "making yourself look good to men" . It's often largely a dynamic of women to women rather than for men. Women will keep extensive interest in makeup even with the disapproval of their partners . Women's fashion sense is largely superfluous to men and moreso a signal of status to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:22 PM
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Women get more support from birth, no effort required. This starts with the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:12 PM
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The only evolutionary strategy that allows males to be selective is the one where they kill the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:00 PM
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Physicall attractiveness is the highest predictor of success in and out for men and women. This is what research says, and no matter how many times women like you deny it, it won't change the facts. There is nothing wrong with wanting to date based on physical attractiveness, its just annoying that women keep denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:57 PM
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Exactly, all of this is very rare and quoting personal experience is not evidence. Women care about looks, just like men do. And its not a wide gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:47 PM
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No? You said that being finantially instable and fit are more important than looks, i said i know a broke and fat guy who sleeps with hotties as a counter. Do you read what you write? All i'm saying is that personal experience does not overthrow the evidence for the average person. The average relationship gap is 3 years, your experience of immense age gap relationships is not representative of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:45 PM
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I know a broke fat guy who sleeps with hotties. Thus, women don't care about financial stability either. Learn statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 02:28 PM
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Cold approach works if you're attractive Otherwise don't bother. Get someone in a bad day and you may get security called for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:23 AM
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Published research says otherwise. Looks first parameter for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:21 AM
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If it were inherent to human biology, then all individuals, regardless of culture, would have that biological need or instinct that drives them to choose a partner solely for their status or the money in their wallet. If men being physically stronger than women was inherent to human biology then all men regardless of culture would be stronger than women. This is not the case, thus, men being stronger is a social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:52 PM
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Women complaining about being emotional dumps gotta the most ironic shit ever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:04 PM
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The people who are struggling with dating, incels and whatnot, already are sexless work ants, but they keep trying to be accepted on a system that hates them. On top of being a sexless work ant, you are trying to lick the boot that is stomping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:12 PM
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I don't see why it can't happen. Feminism changed millenia of history of what would constitute "true female nature", yet it didn't cause any major problems to them, quite the contrary. Being tied to these "values" like family and legacy being a denial of human nature is like saying women after feminism are denying their nature, which should likewise be family, motherhood and raising good children. Yet somehow they get more out of it, not less. Btw Im not a fan of these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:07 PM
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You already are one, but on top of being sexless, you work more and get scorned and despised as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:04 PM
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It's not. Because if one improves to become a masterful rubicks cubik nerd, he won't get any women as a result. RP dictates a specific path of improvement, one that makes you "Chad". This is an improvement tied to dating. One could be Chad by actually decreasing his quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:03 PM
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The black flair does not specify a pill type, it's a custom flair. I can put whatever name I want in there. There are people who use the black flair to say "no pill". And void = empty, just a fancy way to say that I take no pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:59 PM
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Void =\= black. Void is empty, the pill I take has no content. It's just a fancy way to describe I took none of the pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:57 PM
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Why is it only applicable to men? True female nature is about having kids, yet women are for a century growing out of it more and more. Even when the biological clock ticks harder and harder post 30, more women are not having kids regardless. Or they are without a man, by getting donor sperm and being single mothers. Voluntary celibacy would be impossible and only for "anomalies" if that was the case. And I'm not even advocating for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:55 PM
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There is no solution, what you can do is simply not self destruct while pursuing something that makes you miserable. If one cannot become rich, appreciate what you have instead of crying for what you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:50 PM
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Complain all you want. Improving for dating? Only if you hate yourself. You either accept to suffer while retaining your own self worth Or keep suffering trying to get approved by a society that hates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:27 AM
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Void means empty. Does that answer your question? Color of empty makes no sense. I don't believe in genetic determinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:09 AM
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I have a wife. I'm not a blackpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:54 AM
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By self improving for years, reaching 30 after geting LMS and (delusionally) date hot 20 year olds? Sure, not a lot of commitment at all. Redpill is a praxeology meant to educate men on intersexual dynamics, thats it, what those men do or what they recommend others do is purely their own ideas as individuals. But redpills are talking about this now. Undesrtand that this does not exist in a vacuum, RP will kill itself if it works. Because it makes the market more competitive by default. Each RP o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:53 AM
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Women don’t screech at men and demand men adjust their height and breast size preferences. Body positivity movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:25 AM
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Physical attractiveness is the first criteria for men and women. So she'd choose the attractive hermit gamer most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:22 AM
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I'm not saying this will "better" the dating market in a significant way, but it won't make it worse. The MGTOW movement has an emphasis in pumping and dumping, so , no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:08 AM
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Do the same as feminism did for women: Men should be independent of women, men don't need women to live. In short, quit dating, quit doing stuff in your life to get sex. Until men start to actually increasing their value by REDUCING supply, the market will only get more competitive with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:39 AM
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The competition is still bigger, i.e, you're still less likely to get a young one to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:36 AM
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"Dating for the average man sucks. Only chad gets to hit. Thus, become chad" So Dating is hard for average guy --> Women standards are high and want chad--> Become chad--> Increase in supply of chad makes women standard raise more--> Harder for the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:32 AM
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https://youtu.be/45m-fYQTBn4?si=cGiY9L47aW0YBO3-&t=420
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:30 AM
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Your experience is irrelevant. Actual dating practices dictate that 3 years is the average age gap. 30 yr old - 20 yr old is a rare occurence. 20yo dudes would be sleeping with 18yo women yet this doesn't happen as much Because a minority of young men is banging a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:25 AM
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Passport bro is actual dating advice. However, do it quick, competition will only increase with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:23 AM
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The woman is just showing the truth of the game to you, and you refuse to listen. There is NO PATH where you will have the bigger bargaining power if the only thing you do is to "improve" for women and try to think of yourself as a catch when the last 100 years of history are preaching women that they don't need a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:22 AM
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Yep, this is just Red pill cope "Improve yourself and date younger women" is just nonsense. Yeah wait until you're 30 after working your ass out to try and date: Women that don't want you; Women that are getting rare as time goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:20 AM
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Of course it will, but this isn't an argument to say i can't criticize it because people will have different thoughts. I can talk about "Democrats" by how the democrat politicians are acting NOW, whatever some democrat guy thinks or does differently is irrelevant to the bigger fish with a bigger audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:07 AM
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And you're here wasting time with me! Take a seat!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:05 AM
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This is appeal to purity. Red pill NOW is a far cry from whatever BS it was 10 years ago. Its basically a midground between what is known as "Tradcon" and "Oldschool RP" This is the RP of today. https://www.youtube.com/@hoe_math Guy says exactly what the "old school RP" says, and mix it up with social commentary and how we should make society great again, fight feminism and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 12:04 AM
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Sounds like typical feminist excuse whenever we point out actual feminist practice. "Look at the books from 100 years ago! Its about EQUALITY! Those aint true feminists"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:50 PM
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Then check out. This RP guy here: https://www.youtube.com/@hoe_math really likes to talk about wide societal issues, how men are fucked, and how society should go back to "older ways". He is a RP with a lot of reach. I'm not interested in talking about whatever idealized version of RP exists in each individuals mind, you can't even discuss anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:48 PM
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Your mind probably exists because of placebo, because there is 0 content in what comes out of your fingers. Read your first post and try to find any argument there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:46 PM
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Women are hypergamous and entitled? Just improve yourself to become exactly what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:45 PM
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They claim to enlighten men to "make their lives better" and "oppose feminism" and value "True masculine values" which are also politically loaded (such as being a provider) trying to use science and psychology More like a whole lot of bro science.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:42 PM
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Unfocus your life from dating. Use your money for yourself, do not pursue women, and i say it not just for LT, but also short term. Do not abide to "masculine" or "traditional" values if you don't want to. If you don't have ambitions for yourself, find a work and do only the enough to sustain yourself and your hobbies. Don't have kids, kids are good for the state. Work your way to become more independent from the state in the legal limit. This example doesn't work everywhere, but as an example: …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:41 PM
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Funny how common is this answer. Either appeal to purity and "history" Or just "you're wrong" . Probably because it hits too close to home.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:35 PM
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Their advice only makes it harder. RP advice is to become more competitive on a competition they themselves says is not bearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:34 PM
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Thats not what the RP say, RPs are actively crying about how the system is broken and it should change, and to make "men's life's better". How feminism is bad, and yada yada. If it was that selfish, it wouldn't tap into those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:09 PM
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If its your goal to improve as a person, for your own self, not for dating, go for it. If not, no. And if you actually wants to fight the system you believe there is, then you should stop feeding it. If the system has failed you, why should you work for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:08 PM
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You keep dodging the argument. The people that believe and want initial attraction aren't all influenced by ROM com movies. Neither they need to, sometimes they were already like that, and rom com resonated more with them. Out because you will keep running circles here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:12 PM
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Don't pretend to do a 180. You're the one who said those different from you were influenced by ROM com movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:03 PM
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Or they are just neurotyoical people who respond to initial stimuli better than delayed ones. No need to virtue signal because people are different from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:44 AM
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Quite a few women in this thread said they would not like to hear that there was not initial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:37 AM
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The fact that I'm not convinced this is bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:26 AM
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Neither am I into empowered man-ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:25 AM
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Your qualities are not being a bad person? I totally expect someone to say they cheat when they are talking about relationships right? Where are the feminine traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:53 AM
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Curious because men and women alike say this more and more. Modernity, get a seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:48 AM
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Halo effect destroys fairy tale excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:47 AM
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https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/weexperimentonhumanbeings.html Experiment 2
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:46 AM
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"handsome is no match for persistence" Shit got dark pretty quick. So again, can you match my Papa's standard, men these days No reason to when women don't match mama standard. You wanted to break the gender roles, but only want your side to be allowed to? Enjoy the unmanly man while we enjoy the unfeminine women. Equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:44 AM
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Show me an example where the said ‘virgin’ wasnt being a piece of shit https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1g0jktm/comment/lr96hgb/ Also, why does it matter if he's being an asshole? His value is being tied to how many holes he can make wet or penetrate. The fact that asshole = no sex implies men are expected to get sex to be someone good. This is also wrong, assholes get sex plenty. Specially criminal assholes. Mainly by other men. Women will assume homosexuality when they get rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 10:36 AM
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Women aren't demisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:19 PM
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Uh, no, men's sexuality is not demonized because of that, instead: Rape, sexual assault, domestic violence, and creepy behavior like catcalling. Men's sexuality regarding "wanting sex" is very much not demonized unless you are on new age feminist groups. Men and women will shame Men for not having sex. "No bitches?" "This is why you haven't felt a woman's touch" "Enjoy not getting laid" "you ain't getting any pussy acting like this". Men are called gay for having physical appearance standards. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:42 PM
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Pre selection AKA mate choice copying. Incels are by default less attractive even if they only know this about them. Negative feedback loop. This is why "just go ask her out" doesn't work for guys who are struggling and get rejected often.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:20 PM
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No, at all, it's often a blessing if she is attractive to you and not others, less competition. Relevant to the video you posted: The women on my circle care about this They will usually dissect all the visible traits from the men and ask opinions to each other. Being single for a long time.is reason for suspicion. It's called mate choice copying This is why men at relationships are seen as more attractive, and men who gets rejected by everyone, are seen as less.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 08:16 PM
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Understand what chasing means. Also your experience isn't the experience of everyone and also isn't all true either. See: rich guy gets approached by women on his level but he wants the hot girl 10 years older than him, he attracts her and he uses him for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 07:49 PM
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No, proximity attraction exists. It's not going to make someone ugly beautiful, but it happens for average people. No glowups needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 02:00 PM
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If you're talking about a date, sure. But if not, BS. Otherwise friends and coworkers wouldn't fall for each other after months together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:41 AM
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Incels ain't rich. They would not be complaining if they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:26 AM
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Nonsense. If I don't get Brooke Shields I am not settling, lol. You can get a woman that is attractive to you with more compatible traits, not necessarily the most attactive. If the women you're attracting aren't as hot as you want, just stay single. Don't be delusional that you can just chase a hot girl into wanting you, if you are chasing, they already ain't showing interest. At best you get settled for, which is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 10:20 AM
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Looksmatch exist. It's just people that have the same level of physical attractiveness. But people aren't forced to date their looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:10 PM
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Why should a man pick the most attractive available? Disregarding compatibility and lifestyle? The women that flock to you are more likely to be compatível than those who don't. And you can at least find out because they won't reject you, so you can vet properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:00 PM
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You avoided the question. Why men can't overcome their biological urges but women can? I'm not talking abou libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:39 PM
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Lower libido = not wanting to have sex. Not wanting to have kids however, it's a whole different story. Women are on a biological clock, the desperation kicks in fast for old women close to menopause without kids. In fact, at 30 lots of women already get this urge. Yet they still do it go on single and working deep into 40s, and it gets more and more common. It's kinda pathetic and nonsensical to suggests only women can go against their biology, because muh libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 12:01 PM
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We're assuming that in else have nothing to lose (i.e low status, ). So they would be sent first yes. But don't actually do that. We don't need more wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:57 AM
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Romans used barbarians to fight barbarians for centuries before they rebelled. If they want to defect and are too sympathetic to potential enemies, I reckon they simply will avoid conscription or join the enemy right away. By the way. I don't think we should do that tho. We're past the point of needing wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:42 AM
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Eh, no, the conquerors were the ones with high status. There guys will often die of disease or starvation in the the way to the battle. The meat shields will tank the enemy while the actual fighters flank and win the fight. The Romans would throw rows of barbarians at the enemy before the legions engaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:39 AM
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Alcohol, drugs, tobbaco, music = always existed. (music is bad now?) Television existed in the supposed "golden age" post WW2, where, in the USA, vast majority of men married and working, affordable housing, and having lots of kids. What would be not coping ? Going to war? Hunting animals? Back to monke?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:35 AM
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It's impossible for mating preferences to change in this time span genetically. When you analyze hunter gatherer societies, the mating preference is still physical qualities. The generic imprint we have are from humans who reproduced young and died young. Physical indicators of health, fertility, and strength are all more important. That's without considering sexual selection, where the preferences can go against adaptativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:52 PM
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And what does this have to do with biology? You guys are saying here that men can't stop chasing because biology, yet woman also have the urges to reproduce, a strong one to have children, yet they managed to control it and get into the market single. No amount of laws would be enough if biology couldn't be overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 09:46 PM
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Another day another RP nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:10 PM
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Considering the short lifespan and child mortality rates of ancient human beings, physical traits are far more important. Indicatives of health and better genes. You don't need much intelligence to live in groups, most non intelligent animals can do that. And this is what research shows, women and men date according to physical attractiveness first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:58 PM
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Sex robots will help, we just need to not shame men for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:47 PM
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How did then, women managed to do it? To let go of their source of income, their drive to have kids, to be independent, and work?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:47 PM
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It was hard to convince anti-feminist women during the last century that they should be independent from men. Since men were their literal bread baskets, yet, despite threat of actually being homeless, it succeeded. Sttrugle will always happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:41 PM
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These kind of guys were usually sent to war on the Frontline to die. Life was never good to a reject. The old times were only truly good for most men, in SOME places, post WW2.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:40 PM
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Yeah and not everyone will escape obesity, but telling them to try isn't wrong. Again, it's better to be lonely but with time to appreciate yourself. Than be lonely and keep humiliating yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:26 PM
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When I gave up chasing, my life only got better. Later on I found someone that truly liked me, but I wasn't with that expectation when I gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:23 PM
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Because you could not see other things to make you happy. The men that are chasing are just as lonely as the ones that aren't, just that the other use their time to find happiness elsewhere, instead of humiliating themselves when they're repeatedly rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:19 PM
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They say this when they want to redeem themselves about their hoe life. It's not a positive quote, it's her saying she grew out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:07 PM
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Both men and women have reproduction as biological imperative. Yet women can be volcels without much difficulty. In fact women are just reproducing less and less since they got to the market. Seems that this isn't such a big deal for them, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:02 PM
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It's better than him keep chasing something(women) that has already told him they're not interested. One he will be both sad, frustrated, and wasting time. The other he will be occasionally sad. Chasing won't make you any less lonely, you will feel even shitties of yourself when you see nobody wants you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:53 PM
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The ones that are selling bullshit are the dating coaches, To and PUA grifters that sell courses to men that can't get relationships. No one can profit by men choosing not to engage with something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:40 PM
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Why are the women that will show interest in you, bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:37 PM
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That's kind the point of OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:33 PM
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Women are in the "I don't need men" for a century now, seems to be working fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:23 PM
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You can improve yourself by going with the flow. Take control of what you can, learn more of what you want. The only thing that you are forced to do in life even if you don't like it, is having a job and the olbigations that come with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:17 PM
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Keep doing it. Women are a century telling themselves to stop being dependent of a man and marriage and they get more and more power, more and more career success. While you are still shackled to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:12 PM
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Nonsense, women only chase the man they want. The motto of today's era for women is that they don't need any men. It's about independence and empowerment. Many women are single by choice, and also not having any sex by choice. Men dread this, women can do it easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:09 PM
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Based and misanthropy pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:04 PM
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More like MSTOW (men sent their own way) Not bad per se, but I laugh how they mgtows think that if they do this, women and society will come crawling back. Like a hobo standing in front of a Store that sells Porsches, and telling them they will not buy it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 06:03 PM
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I said the same thing in the PUA thread. It's not easy, but is preferable than keep forcing yourself into constant frustration. We know it's biology, but you can't shame or beg your way into having sex with you. Get a sex doll, or buy escorts. Then live your life for yourself. Think about it: No women wants you, so you have to just slave yourself into trying to convince them through money or status or mumbo jumbo pick up tricks like PUA? Why work yourself for someone that does not want you? Or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:57 PM
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Night? It was day, my mother was bothered with loud noises on the neighbors, and went there to complain, the woman lashed out at my mother, my mother ran back home, and the woman started hitting the door multiple times. My mother called the police, and the woman went away, we used this time to get out of home. The woman chased us, cussing my mother, saying she would get her The police arrived, we went to the office, my mother filled a case against her. One week later, i found out that the woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:38 PM
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There is NO evidence to be found if the marks of the supposed crime already expired. Such was my case, since the accusation, it was said that there was no sign of physical assault, but that it happened. It was literally my word vs hers. And such is the case of sexual assault. These crimes often leave no mark at all. If you can't know that your children are guilty of something, EVEN THE STATE will presume they are innocent. So how the fuck can you even think of not believing your kids? Any parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:34 PM
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What part of "False accusation" didn't you understand? There was no evidence to be found, because i didn't do it, you know, crimes that didn't happen don't leave any evidence. But since you have the reading comprehension of an illiterate, you couldn't understand that, contrary to what the woman i originally responded though, there were "no facts to be analyzed" What my mother knew was only two things Me denying it happened (because it didn't happen) No evidence of PA to be found. So, what you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:26 PM
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I was falsely accused because i didn't do it. Thats it. What i'm saying is that there was NOTHING else for me to do than simply deny it, because i did not do it. She just came up with a fake story and said "He hit me", but there was no hit marks, obviously, because it didn't happen. So i rebbuted with my own story explaining that i did not hit her. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:07 PM
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First she says she would look at the facts, then after she says she would believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:22 AM
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I'm really hoping that most of the women that say they would believe or be inclined to believe that their son did it, are rage baiting. Because if not, than i just want to check out of this shit. "Sisterhood" over your own children is nothing short of mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:35 AM
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There is no "IF" the states assumes, until proven otherwise. I’ve said multiple times in this thread that I would look at the facts. Decide yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:28 AM
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If you can't know that your children are guilty of something, Thats the assumption. If you know your son and you know if he or how he lies, its obvious. But if you have nothing going for it, you should believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:27 AM
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There is NO evidence to be found if the marks of the supposed crime already expired. Such was my case, since the accusation, it was said that there was no sign of physical assault, but that it happened. It was literally my word vs hers. And such is the case of sexual assault. These crimes often leave no mark at all. If you can't know that your children are guilty of something, EVEN THE STATE will presume they are innocent. So how the fuck can you even think of not believing your kids? Any parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:15 AM
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Only if there is enough reason to believe the report was done in bad faith. Even if you sue after its pretty hard to get it going, the state naturally does not want to go back to back into two cases. If you ever been into any shit like this, they will try they absolute hardest for any agreement to be made. I got told that "Boy, even if you're sure you can prove you're innocent, its still better to accept a good deal than to have a good case". Most of you guys here are clueless about this kind of…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:11 AM
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Thankfully you're not my mother, because i was on the other side of being falsely acused of physical assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:08 AM
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Not sure if rage bait, hopefully it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:07 AM
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I was falsely accused not of SA, but of physical assault, by a woman. Thankfully my mother was on my side all the time, because she knew me and trusted me. Besides obvious rage bait on some women here. I sincerely hope that many of those don't have any kids. Also asking parent questions to people who don't have kids its useless. Parents are downright delusional with obvious cases of misconduct of their child. Parental instincts will trump all the nonsense people write here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:59 AM
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Obvious rage bait, Idk why people keep failing for this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:54 AM
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I edited the post, it was missing "life" Its not wrong to have desires and act on them. But its harmful to, once you have failed to get your desires met, to organize your life around having these desires met. This is what i meant. If the store went out of cake, and you didn't know how to make a cake, its harmful to organize your life around knowing how to make a cake, to have cake as your primal goal in your life, when you know you can't make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:15 PM
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Making compliments with frequency, giving gifts early on, being romantic since the start, paying for everything, doing favours. All this since the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:43 PM
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It won't, but this isn't what i was talking about anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:40 PM
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The women in this case are not part of the class and are being farmed for experience as a tool for the class without their consent. This is irrelevant, they could be a group of unorganized guys doing the exact same thing, and it would be reported regardless. The women there did not know they were doing any course, nor who was selling them. Sorry homie, there’s no mechanism in society that makes talking to women illegal. This ain’t Iran Sorry buddy, but unfortunately, This is what happens This gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:39 PM
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First off: being hot with money will just get you used. Any sort of attraction she has will be based solely on your extrinsic characteristics which will ebb and flow with time, but also doesn’t factor in “personality” aka the bullshit that comes out when he opens his mouth. You. cant. read. I said this: Maybe money can help, but there is no conclusive evidence that it causes sexual attraction per se. Money can get you girls, but it doesn't imply they will be sexually attracted to you. Second off…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:27 PM
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I don't know why are you bringing all this. All i'm saying is that saying this "Nice midgets can get girls because of their personality, those who don't, don't get it" is illusory. Yes hot people tend to end up with hot people, thats basically what i'm saying. So midgets geting with hot women shouldn't be any argument to say that those who don't, have terrible personalities and whatnot. Learn reading comprehension. THere is a weak correlation between sexual partner count and body height in men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:23 PM
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Did you read the mall statement? It was considered harassment. You didn't watch the video, because specifically, WOMEN, went out to the security to complain about HARASSMENT I'm not arguing about the morality of this. Just being practical. If the current generation considers this harassment, and you get socially ostracized and kicked from places by doing it, you should avoid doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:19 PM
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Again, is a negative feedback loop Guy can't get gf-->He must not be a good partner --> He gets less options-->Guy can't get gf. For example, an ugly dude will struggle getting girlfriends, but that doesn't imply he's a bad partner. But his lack of partner will make him seem even less attractive. Whereas an ugly dude that HAS partners, will be seen as more attractive. Clearly, some women do choose before seeing what other women say, they're the tastemakers, there's a reason they didn't choose yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:01 PM
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Before you gobble his dick, he said this to me If you think you're a victim of this world with no agency, keep doing you. I try not to leave things to chance, So try to read first. The more I read your responses the more they sound like thinly veiled superiority plugs because “muh wife” and “guys that didn’t luck into genetics shouldn’t try and improve their charisma for the sake of attracting a partner” No, i'm only saying that PUA and game are bullshit, there is no "social trick" method to tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:56 PM
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Thats a major problem with men. Pussy is the meaning of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:48 PM
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Women despise sexless men. Sexless men are seen as less attractive, but not because of the act of sex per se, but the fact that no women wants to have sex with them. Using escorts to plug this gap won't help. Since its about selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:48 PM
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Also not true. The same reason that makes you sexless, is the same reason women don't like you Mate choice copying makes men that are selected by women more attractive, and men that do not, less attractive. So these two go hand in hand. So all else equal, an incel is by default less attractive than a guy that has sex and has a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:46 PM
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Not really. Research shows that women have a mating strategy called "Mate-choice copying". Which makes males that are chosen by other females to appear more attractive. Conversely, men that DO NOT get selected by other women are seen as less attractive. Basically, women follow the instinct that "If nobody wants that guy, he must not be a good partner" So an incel, all else equal, will be seen as less attractive than someone with sex experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:45 PM
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Then i don't understand. The study you posted compared dark triads with others to evaluate personality alone, so it didn't change physical attractiveness levels (because there was none, read the study and you'll see there are no pictures, only description of character). Personality evaluations include DT traits, because DT is a personality. If research shows that personality is a secondary trait to physical attractiveness, there is no reason to believe that being a DT overturns this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:28 PM
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Incorrect, both men and women exhibit their first criteria for a succesful date as physical attractiveness. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date was physical attractiveness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5640931_Sex_Differences_in_Mate_Preferences_Revisited_Do_People_Know_What_They_Initially_Desire_in_a_Romantic_Part…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:15 PM
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blackpilled dudes hate aa lot of redpill and PUA content for this reason. Wow, based blackpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:08 PM
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The dark triad research maintained the physical attractiveness variable constant. I'm talking about research that investigates multiple traits, and physical attractiveness wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:07 PM
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Thats pretty much it. Halo effect rules all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:02 PM
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Harassment doesn't need to be sexual assault tho. The PUAs that got banned from this mall: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.2459780 For harassment, didn't get any sexual assault charges. Simply approaching people that don't want to get approached is enough for you to be cast out of places, worse still game and PUA things involves "convincing", so you get what this is going to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:59 PM
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What i'm trying to say is that there are tons of midgets that don't get anything for every one that has a hot girlfriend. You can even see those mysogynistic RPers with hot women, that doesn't imply most of them will get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:53 PM
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See you still don’t recognize that even though Barbie’s were de entering Ken from their lives. They still have the option to include them if they wanted too, which the Ken’s do not have that option. Such is the fate of everybody that is attracted to someone, but that someone isn't attracted back. Does reality hurt you that bad? There is no reproductive strategy that will leave men partner less that they/will accept happily. RP/PUA is a honest framework for how they can improve themselves to impr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:50 PM
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Its all bullshit, for every midget with a hot girlfriend, there are millions out there getting rejected by disabled women. Bluepillers are high on copium that everybody can get hot partners with personality Redpillers are high on copium that everybody can get hot partners by hitting the gym and "acting alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:23 PM
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Based and reality pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:20 PM
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Being dark triad CAN help you to attract certain types of women. But if YOU'RE UGLY, this is irrelevant. What the research shows is that physicall atractiveness is #1, for men, and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:20 PM
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If you are attractive, you can put woman in their place, they will like you. If you are attractive, you can be prince charming and they will like you. This is the reality. And not amount of trying to be alpha without being attractive is not gonna help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:18 PM
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My marriage is rent free on your head. Keep doing PUA and you will also get one, trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:16 PM
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Perhaps you need to understand that "disabled midget" isn't the average guy. And, not really, rates of singlehood are increasing for men far more than for women among young men. The reasons are multiple, but this isn't the point of the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:11 PM
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I think that women are attracted to leadership qualities in men. If they're already attracted to him, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:07 PM
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Some do, and some research shows some women like it. But if they're ugly it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:04 PM
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How can a disabled midget get girls snd they can’t? Easy answer, the midget is nice to woman and makes them laugh, and the arseholes don’t want to do that From one side of the utopia rainbow to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:03 PM
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Scammed? No, MY LIFE CHANGED after i LEARNED PUA and BECAME ASSHOLE ALPHA. Nice guys finish last!!! Buy my course!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:01 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:00 PM
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Asshole = different than the pack, potentially prey on some insecurities. TRUUUE, join my course for 500 a month and you be LOVED by people by using DARK PSYCHOLOGY TRICKS. Be a confident alpha asshole, and your social status will raise! Click here!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:58 PM
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0 sex, and you can't get female friends, and your male friends will be put off by you being a mysogynistic. In practice, their reputation will fall with women, so they will be less inclined to be with you. TL;DR you will only be able to befriend other woman hating incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:57 PM
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Do you want a job? Just play hard to get on the interview, the company will be mesmerized by your amazing tactics and hire you. ALPHA pilled. Millions of people managed to gain 6 figures salries with this AMAZING TECHNIQUE, no qualifications needed, just say the right things on your interview and YOU WILL BECOME RECH Follow my course for only $500 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:55 PM
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As unnatractive guy Being nice = 0 sex, but you can make friends Asshole = 0 sex, and people hate you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:50 PM
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Brother you are CLUELESS, there are HOMEOPATHY DOCTORS out there, and people saying homeopathy works with them https://homeopathy-uk.org/homeopathy/how-homeopathy-helps/homeopathy-success-stories/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P7VoI3-cXc you're just intellectually challenged, and can't realize not only your argument is Bullshit, but that pua is false. I'm sorry that so many of you are so chronically miserable from lacking female company, but harebrained theories aren't going to help you. I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:48 PM
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Lots of boys are specifically TOLD to be overly nice to girls. I heard this shit my whole life. Its not manipulation, its cultural "indocrination" if you will. And after relationship has been stablished, both girls and boys can exhibit overly nice features due to falling in love intensely, which is just emotional dependence, not people pleasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:44 PM
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Ain't no Dark triad Quasimodo slaying ladies out there. There is published research showing some populations of women like "Bad boys". But thats with all else equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:41 PM
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Your lack of hearing about something is irrelevant Just google, don't be lazy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_healing Pseudoscientific medicine practices that are around for centuries, according to your logic, if they didn't die on the vine, they are not false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:38 PM
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Well it confuses me, because following your genius logic. You wouldn’t be able to propose since it’s not organic and it requires planning. This is because you understood jack shit of what i said, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:35 PM
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So how do explain the unattractive PUAs successes? So how do you explain fat nerds getting hot girlfriends? And people getting healed by crystal therapy and homeopathy? If you're suggesting they're rare, I don't buy it. Bad ideas die on the vine. Crystal healing and homeopathy tactics have been used for centuries. They're not bulletproof, but they work enough for the people that do it. If they didn't work much of the time, the practice would have died before it even really began.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:33 PM
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Its all a coping mechanicsm. Its really no different from women that try using astrology and "witchcraft" to attract males. They are unnatractive, but instead of trying to find happiness while single, they come up with mumbo jumbo "dark psychological tricks" so they can bang hot women 100% of the time. Yes bro, if you look like Gollum, just treat women badly and play hard to get, it will work, bro. Quasimodo from hunchback of notre dame could easily get esmeralda if he used PUA techniques. He's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:30 PM
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The projection hahahahahahahha. Don't be envious dude. You're arguing against your own thoughts here, your own scarecrows. I proposed, if this confuses you, its because you're the one who didn't understand shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:15 PM
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Cry more. The "unseductive" "victim" with "no agency" has a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:48 PM
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You're the one who needs professional help dude. My grandma finds leonardo dicaprio at titanic more attractive than biden, there is 0% things wrong with her You think you're the center of the world and just because others think differently from you, there is something wrong with them. Young people REMAIN attractive to ALL age ranges for both sexes, all neurotypical people. You are also tripping with the age, 18 year old look largely the same as 20 yr old, but since you're chronically online and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:41 PM
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There is no therapy needed, for both sexes young people remain attractive on all age ranges, what changes is the preferences. Women of 30 will find men of 30 the most appealing, but will still find 20s men more attractive than 40 and 50s men. At a certain age, women converge with men and find younger people more attractive than old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:22 PM
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Idk why people are responding to obvious rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:17 PM
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Because it can also backfire a ton. Plenty of women who's made the first move on a guy have come to regret it when he takes that as a sign of undying interest, she realizes he sucks, and he takes it as "her playing hard to get" and she ends up having a random guy she talked to once show up at her job, or has to file for a restraining order, or worse. Thats pretty dramatic and also happens on both sides, the men just doesn't feel threated enough for a restraining order. Most people who get ghoste…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:58 PM
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I have a wife. Lol there are sentences that homeless people can say that would award them more empathy and improve their success rate. Yep, just like one guy can learn game to entertain a girl for 5 minutes in a hostage negotiation, get rejected in the end, and be deluded that "he's improving". No, she was just being polite because your approach was more socially acceptable. Try to say the above to a homeless guy and see how hard he will laugh at your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:50 PM
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They did, he married again later, and divorced again. IDK how he is doing rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:46 PM
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There is no passivity assumed. What i call organically is people who fall in love by being close to one another and getting to know each other. Through friends, family, friends of friends, coworkers, any sort of natural socialization. This is what is falling in love organically, not "I'm desperate for pussy so i need to find some gibberish method that will help me getting the pussy i want" And none of this has relation to "game" or "i can seduce women with my skills" This is illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:46 PM
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He wrote another book called the "The truth" were he basically starts criticizing the whole idea of PUA manipulation and how it affected his marriage, because he kept trying to manipulate his wife, which led him to cheat on her multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 03:56 AM
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Yes but he wouldn't have gotten the wife without what he learned from pickup. You have no idea of that. If PUA did badly in the relationship, its likely that his wife simply loved him too much to handle his bullshit until the breaking point. This is what it means to fail to assess causality. Just because you got what you wanted, it doesn't mean it was because of a specific something you did. Much like people who says they get healed by crystals.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:40 AM
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Lots of Blackpillers initially identified themselves as red pillers, due to the usual connotation of Red pill = brutal truth, they were the branch that was not convinced by the utility of game. But since this idea wasn't popular and still isn't among RPs today, they branched off In my opinion, the RP movement nowadays is just a bunch of grifters. RP now feels like just idolizing male nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:34 AM
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This is basically what i said in the post. But most of the answers here is men saying "This is just men's nature, we're horny". Well i know, that doesn't mean you should keep being tho if it only brings you suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:28 AM
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Also, PUA used to work pretty well No, it never did. BTW, PUA was supposed to make a man be able to overcome lack of looks, or money, or status. Yet in the period where looks, money and status are the most important, PUA is useless. Because it always was. Read what you write, my friend. The male loneliness started because A) Society is going less social B) Women now have options to be very picky because men just throw themselves at them. No reason to choose average when everyone is available. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:41 AM
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If he could do this he would not be posting here, instead, he would be one of the guys that women are complaining about situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:12 AM
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Pretty sure a large portion of women already think this and have stopped dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:05 AM
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If you think the game is rigged, leave it. Also, you're very likely not a catch. Remember that attraction has to happen for a relationship to work, sexual attraction. You can have qualities that are materially good, that doesn't make woman that are looking for actual love and sex to want to date you, nor it should.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:00 AM
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Strauss himself said that using PUA on his wife caused lots of trouble. So the women probably got the worse end of the deal until he realized. He's lucky that she didn't leave him before he woke up. Just like nuclear energy can be good or bad. It just depends on who is using it for what purpose Comparing PUA to nuclear energy is like comparing a block of shit with gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:59 AM
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If you're a man in your 20s you're gonna get fucking crushed by men in their mid 30s (assuming those men stay fit). False, relationship age gaps are on average 3 years on developed countries. Unless you're in africa, this is not the norm. Again red pill nonsense about man aging like fine wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:56 AM
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Getting relationships includes sex. You're complaining on not getting one night stands is complaining with your belly full. Also, you're probably not as attractive as you think. Since attractiveness is the number 1 predictor of preference for women casual sex choice. You might have a cute face by looking neotenous. This is cute, like a baby, but not sexually attractive. You may think you're a pretty boy but you likely just look childlike.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:54 AM
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Women feel like men have the upper hand because men can decide who to approach and therefore don't need to fend off weirdos and creeps, plus they generally are seen as having more physical strength etc. so the odds of being taken advantage of are less. Women also feel like men have the upper hand because they set the venue for a date. A creative date choice can really distinguish a guy. How much wiggle room does a girl have to distinguish herself with a guy she really likes when he takes all of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:49 AM
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You can't roll the technology back. Ban dating apps, people will meet up on instagram(as they already do), or any other social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:45 AM
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I declare its IMMORAL to pick the broke chad instead of the hardworking pot bellied perfect family man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:41 AM
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This is so far off the beaten path that we might as well be talking about unicorns here. Nobody is bringing black lights on dates because they read about it in a book. This is what was in the book that influenced most people that entered PUA. It just shows the amount of nonsense there was. What game was at its core is just putting your best foot forward Vague nonsense. Game is about chatting girls into sex/relationships, its about charisma and "know what to say" "how to act on a date". Lot's of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:30 AM
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Yeah i know, but again, men throughout history had to repress a lot of their own instinct to reproduce in unethical ways. Its instinctual to men to want to kill potential male competitors (and children of other males) Its instinctual for men to not be monogamous. Armies who were used to rape and plunder Yet a lot of men find ways around it, be it by cultural teachings and morality, or by force. Sex dolls and AI girlfriends might help. But telling men to not fall to scams, even if they don't list…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:47 PM
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I mean, sure, if you like someone, just ask her out. But if you do this strategy to just get any women, you're going to be a creep. Like it or not, simply approaching girls without any sign of reciprocity will cause bad reactions to a lot of them. But again, this advice won't turn someone from failure to success, because 99% of the time, these guys already tried that anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:20 PM
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to keep working and paying taxes but most importantly, to not be any nuisance to others, to be quiet and pacified. Do you think this is bad? Like, for real, you can just work and become rich if you can, play games all day if you want, have any hobbies you want, so long as you don't hurt others. Is this seriously a bad thing? So to continue where I left off, you can't be surprised that men aren't okay with "advice" that goes totally against their psychology and biology and they'll look elsewhere …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:58 PM
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Such a bizarre post, You don't believe people can become better seducers? Not with PUA, nor game. Its a silly belief, like telling a homeless man that he can walk up to people and make them give all the money they have in their wallet if they simply say the correct things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:36 PM
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Bluepill narrative is that you will get someone you love if you simply be yourself. That by being confident you'll pick up women, that women like personality and not looks. Its hopeful adivce. What you're describing is aking to blackpill, not bluepill. And don't you dare complain! What do you want to do? To complain people into having sex with you, do you think this works? Have you never gotten an slightest idea that maybe not everyone wants to "accept" that? A lot of people can't accept they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:33 PM
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"be confident, be assertive, and just ask her out" are PC dating advice. "Just be yourself" is a bad dating advice, because it gives people expectations that everybody deserves a date. This is not how it works. I think the advice for men sttrugling with dating is either 1:Become more physically attractive 2: Quit dating for a while and just socialize, without dating in mind. 3: Learn how to read sings that women are interested in you(this one is hit or miss, because sometimes these singns overla…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:25 PM
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you are effectively asking men to stop breathing. I'm not saying its easy, but its not impossible, celibacy, voluntary or involuntary, exists. Even if it means to get a sex doll or whatnot, do not get desperate and fall for scams or be shamed into changing the way you are because you're a loser in the eyes of society. Even with the genetic imprint, still half of the men reproduced for every woman in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:12 PM
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Yeah, and if you aren't, you shouldn't really do everything in your power to become one, accepting your nature and realizing you don't need to be a hunter to be healthy or happy, than don't try. Are you unnatractive to most women? Who cares? If you like who you are, there is no need to change, you just need to accept that you will spend a long time single, or even forever single. People that are legit ugly will struggle no matter what, these people don't need dating advice, they need to learn ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:06 PM
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Simply asking to have sex straight up also works for some. Does this need to become some sort of theoretical "Oh... being direct is better!' And not using any game also works for some. The problem is believing there is anything intrinsically effective there, there isn't. What you experience is just the variability of people's behavior, some like, some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:54 PM
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With internet, this is pretty dangerous. Women make groups "Are we dating the same guy" and share pictures of them. PUA is the fastest method for #metoo any%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:51 PM
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just be confident, stand your ground, be proactive, and don't fear rejection. This is common sense and it doesn't work on all women. Having better presentation helps, but you aren't learning a "skill to pick up women" , and it also is contraprodutive to men that have more shy personalities, "be proactive" and "stand your ground" made by a shy guy will look fake as fuck. Also, simply cold approaching women is more annoying than anything else, regardless of your personality. Men see attractive dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:49 PM
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Exactly, guys that are good at dating are 90% of the time already attractive and simply neurotypical person with a normal personality. All those seduction tricks are coping mechanisms to not accept you're simply not attractive. And bothering woman because you can't accept this fact is a fast way to be featured on a me too list.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:14 PM
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Its not wrong to have desires and act on them. But its harmful to, once you have failed to get your desires met, to organize your life around having these desires met. Im telling you that certain aspects of game work. For instance boldly approaching and escalating in a romantic/sexual way. On certain types of women, its not the game, its the woman. And it only works if you have met the baseline physical attraction level anyway. My wife straight up told me when we were meeting each other for me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:12 PM
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Ken's cope is far better than the Red pill cope. At least the idea of the music is find fullfilment in yourself, not on having the woman you want. Its still nonsensical to be a RP and say "Iam kenough" the philosophies are opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:07 PM
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Game actually was just a word that meant success I really want to see any proof of that, because it would be one of the most useless terms ever. Rich guy gets a lot of hot women = He has game Henry cavill gets a lot of women = He has game. There is nothing remotely close to the word "game" in these two examples. The meaning of words can change through time organically anyway. Game now is "Picking up woman through charisma/seduction"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:59 PM
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Your flair is "I am Kenough" yet you're a RP that believes this: TRP is about going from the middle of the pack to the top. Did you even understand the music at all? Also, no, PUA and most RP is for guys who like to get scammed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:44 PM
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By a myriad of different reasons, not "I just honed my skills now i can pick up any women i want ahahahahahahahahahah" Its like you guys forget people can fall in love organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:14 PM
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Strauss himself later said that applying his PUA ideas inside his marriage caused a lot of harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:11 PM
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Oh, no no no. I have experience, i'm married to a hot woman. I tried the usual advice to pick up women with her "Being confident, assertive, dominant". I saw her physically cringe at those techniques, reject me once after, and heard she telling me to stop doing that, because she liked my shy and reserved personality. In short, i got lucky. I've never done anything similar in the whole relationship, and we're 12+ years together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:03 PM
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lol, ahahhahaha. If astrology, crystal healing, homeopathy, sorcery and witchcraft didn't work, it wouldn't exist. Are you arguing the techniques pick up artists use aren’t effective? Precisely, this is further shown by the direct pipeline form PUA to incelism. Incels created "Puahate" for a reason, they all tried that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCm-pLoqsMg If not can you demonstrate or provide a better source to pick up women? Here is a better source. Want to pick up hot women? Look like …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 05:55 PM
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Most of it is just playing hard to get Sure man AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA, if you're a hideous overweight guy, or an average pot belly guy as soon as you play hard to get, women will flock to you, they can't resist reverse psychology, those children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:43 PM
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Who is talking about RP here? We're talking about game, you just wrote a whole post of something that is not being discussed, bye. Game isn't exclusive to RP, its a very, VERY mainstream thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:41 AM
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Game is also about sex too my friend, do you think "Game" is some sort of kind hearted endeavor? Its also manipulation(tries to be) but instead of believing in a power dynamics, it believes in the power of "charisma". Game is specifically something men use that, says them, helps them date chicks out of their league. Game is using your strengths to your advantage. Yes you have to recognize them . If thats so, than sugar daddies have game by using money? Because they use their strengths to their a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:29 AM
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She is a troll, don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:39 AM
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Yeah, sure, they liked it so much the guys were banned for harassment https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.2459780
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:30 AM
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You are on your own echo chamber. The data shows randomized experiences of people of different categories. HOLY FUCKING SHIT i'm really baffle with the level of this sub. My aunt says she got cured by crystals, thus it must be true. All of my aunts friends have no problem curing diseases with crystals. Google the meaning of AVERAGES and deviations to the mean. My experience lines up pretty well with the data. All women i know prefer to date tall man and say they wouldn't date lower than 5'7''. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:34 PM
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First of all, your experience is irrelevant to average data. Data shows women of ages 20-40 all prefer taller men. Older women naturally will soften their standards with age. The older women are, the more they were raised to look for men for practical reasons. But now that women can work, they can afford to be choosier and look for other traits. I'm really fed up with "Yeah this is wrong because i know a guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:30 PM
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Because lifting heavy weights is masculine to men, its cultural masculinity. Women are attracted to biological masculinity, and no, its not large muscles either. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1fygg3t/comment/lqtzotw/ Masculinity that attracts women is dimorphic traits that indicate high level of testosterone/genetic quality. Its the same thing for Women btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:24 PM
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It really didn’t. My dad was a 5’4” ladies man surrounded by beautiful women. If he was young in 2024, he’d be an incel. How old was/is your father and how attractive his face was? You have to remind yourself that women used to be dependent on men to survive, so the standards kind HAD TO be lower, not by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:23 PM
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Taller IS more masculine, biologically speaking, its a dimorphic trait. Biologically dimorphic traits: Tall, wide frame, strong jawline, wider skull, more muscle definition (lower BF) If you want a visual representation of that, just think about Henry Cavill. And yeah i guess he is pretty much considered attractive to women. This is the kind of masculinity that attracts women the most not like... Lifting heavy weights while screaming or something, or doing martial arts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:22 PM
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No need to quote youtuber. This is backed up by published research https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf Figure 2 https://preview.redd.it/e1ztyibue6m81.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=132617350218c6b925fe4248fe6518072967fb08 Here is a social scientist discussing the data https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I8e5HsfpGs8 Also, height is a dead point already. Women pretty much agree with that, the response is "Yes we prefer tall men, fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:15 PM
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In similar fashion, confidence is a way of saying the sex will be good. If a guy is "hot" but comes off like a socially awkward selfish asshole, she won't sleep with him because the sex will probably be lousy. It's all marketing. Complete hogwash First hogwash: 1: confidence is a way of saying the sex will be good Complete baseless statement lol, the sex will be super great when a confident guy has premature ejaculation, sure sure. There is no actual correlation between good sex and confidence. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:02 PM
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Here is the fact: Women consider sex to be far more valuable than money. Most women would give away ALL their money to not have sex with someone they don't want to. For an interesting case study, I think a homeless man should sit by a sign that details how he plans to use his donations to get out of homelessness. Complete with annual wealth targets, plans to save an invest, get a job and an apartment, and get off the street. And you know what? I bet he'll get more donations than the guy who sits…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:27 PM
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Game and PUA have the same teaching, only PUA puts some more mumbo jumbo to spice it up so that men can cope when this: Game is maximizing who you are, focusing on your best qualities, and learning how to present them in a format (eg flirting) in a way that women find attractive. Fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:15 PM
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Its not reddit, its universal. Old people are actually more likely to deny looks are that important because they lived in a time where women needed men to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:43 PM
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Things like "Game, Learn to talk with women, be confident" and others is basically this: "If you're a homeless man, you can walk up to people and make them give you all the money they have in their wallets if you simply say the right things"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:42 PM
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Game is illusory, astrology for men type of thing. PUAs are not liked by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:39 PM
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´Rational means concious, analytic, vast majority of dating preferences are instinctual, not concious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:19 PM
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No is isn't. Lesser known talented people still get attention. It isn't like being famous and rich is the only way you can impress people. Not by sex appeal, but by people that have common interests. Gamers, rubix cube enthusiasts and chess players get attention from people interested in these hobbies. You do actually need to be skilled or talented at the thing though, don't you? Come on now.. You can ~have a passion~ for singing, and suck ass at it and give people headaches. It's not the same a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:08 PM
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There is no video that you sent in our interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:05 PM
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Women will still expect the attractive guy to lead They don't, since they start and keep the conversation going, despite being thrown with messages they dislike. You didn't even watch the videos, since i posted this 5 minutes ago. Watch it, the guy tries (i don't want sex i just wanna feel loved, i'm sad) and the girl switches her instance from "wanna smash" to "i'm here for you, are you ok?". You believe something that isn't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:03 PM
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I did say it was an extreme example Hence why its useless to use this to talk about the general population My SO did. I did. Lol, we found each other through music and know plenty of others who did the same too. You are people that like music and found each other! Wow, can't you see that you found each other through similar interests, not by being a people pleaser? If i had followed your advice, i would not have my wife. Because i tried all the "confidence, social skills, music" when i was pursu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:59 PM
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Wrong and wrong. Women will close the deal with an attractive men without any need of "leading" Women will often message first when presented with a hot dude https://youtu.be/Ks_dZgzwDg4?si=1MsV3VyO3PQHc93Y&t=323 https://youtu.be/5cDeoy6Ds3M?si=pDLym3_f50FKpxXz&t=18 This guy tried every red flag in the book, and still got women interested. Women want sex too, my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:56 PM
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The naive part is that they would be getting any remotely close to the success they have, by not having money and status attached to it (which comes from their TALENT). If the ONLY thing they got was women (it wouldn't happen, but just assume) they wouldn't be so keen in working their asses off , paying the bills is necessary. For every gene simmons that are MILLIONS of guitar players that have ZERO women throwing itself at them (they are also sttrugling financially). You are confounding correla…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:50 PM
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Dating is not a rational or moral endeavor. Attraction follows instincts, what people are attracted to shows a history of millions of years of succesful reproduction, humans are still animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:34 PM
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You two, like men, think of dating a as rational, moral decision. Its not. Women, in general, do not want simply men taller than them. They want men taller than OTHER MEN. This is what published research shows. I reckon it would be pretty simple for both reject grous (tall women and short men) to pair up together. But you will soon realize that tall women, possibly you too, also want men taller than other men. And short guys want women shorter than them. Fighting against biology = uphill batle.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:33 PM
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The rockstars and cool performers do it for passion/money, not to get pussy, not to be a clown people pleaser. And you know, a lot of the same guys that do this, that do music, and that perform, do not have women throwing themselves at them, they aren't famous, are many of them are often poor. Because they aren't desired because they are pleasing others, they are desired because they are good at what they do, exceptional in the case of the ones you're mentioning. Or they are desired because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:25 PM
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No, you don't have to make up for anything, women aren't owed shit from men. And attraction is non negotiable. Most people are average and boring, if you're like that, no one is owed you to "be" a "better more attractive person" by being a people pleaser is bad advice. "Game and charisma" is basically just being a clown juggling things in an effort that people laugh at you, it puts you at the service of others to get something that should be organic. Interact with people that show interest in yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:04 PM
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Nonsensical bs lmao, Biology is a big deal to children likewise Adoptive children trading adopted parents for biological ones Step Parents NEVER having the same authority, recognition and reciprocity than biological ones('You're not my father/mother!") I find absolutely amazing how children have enough cognitive capacity to be cold to someone becase "he only loves me because of his DNA" but don't resent the cheating piece of garbage mother who CAUSED all this shit. Hilarious to an extreme degree…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:33 PM
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Belief is irrelevant, the 25 year old cutoff for brain maturity is wrong anyway, even more wrong for psychosocial maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:52 AM
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The media spreads it, but people discuss because they're interested. The media also covers mundane things like paving of roads, that most people don't care to talk anything about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:21 AM
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Yeah, those who act on it are not okay in the head. But feeling attracted isn't. Being attracted to dark triad traits is already reserached to be something that is possible among neurotypical women. Simply finding it hot, not exactly being naive enough to pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 12:09 AM
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Virtuous, responsible and smart and very much legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:14 PM
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With someone that likes them. The psychos like the serial killer. The serial killers have people tha like them, and have intimacy with them, they should not have this, specially when some good people don't have it--> There is the logic. You presented no arguments, so i'm ending the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:53 PM
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To be sincere: Cry about it. Can't force someone to accept being a cuckold.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:43 PM
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They explain why it is on the article These findings contrast with previous literature which found younger women to exhibit a preference for a high-scoring DT personality (Carter et al., 2014a). It is possible that this differ-ence is linked to the fact that the characters that were presented to par-ticipants in prior research included a picture of a male along with the descriptions. This difference could have influenced the ratings in several ways, such as prompting participants to focus more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:16 PM
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You're not getting it. Its not that "I WANT THIS WOMAN/MONEY" more like "I don't want these guys to have it way easier than i have". These guys should be getting nothing, thats what it means. Money in hands of corrupt politicians isn't any different from from money in other people's hands Of course it is different. The money comes from bribes (which is money from bad people), stealing(commited by bad people) and other illegal activites. People don't want to be in the place of the politician, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:08 PM
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There is also research that indicates the opposite: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/personality-measurement/202311/is-the-attractiveness-of-dark-personalities-exaggerated Not the opposite, only poiting out there is no certainty and all studies have limitations. I agree that physical attractiveness plays a big part, but there are studies that try to control for that. "However, inconsistent with previous literature, younger women rated the low-scoring DT personality as significantly more…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:02 PM
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Tinder and OLD dating just showed that humans are animals and the dismissiviness of it just shows that we're animals that got so enthralled by how evolved we are, that we think we're not animals anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:28 PM
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Yeah but OP is saying people should stop caring. People will never stop caring about unfair things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:17 PM
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The thing is, it isn't any less upsetting. People get upset at corrupt politicians being rich and getting away with it, while the law abiding citizens are poor and hard working. It doesn't imply those people want to be criminals themselves, they are just upset about unfairness. This complaint happens all the time, its the same thing here. The men that are upset with the sex appeal of serial killers are not saying they want to date psycho girls, they are upset that a guy that does horrid things g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:11 PM
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Exactly. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm explaining to you perceived unfairness. Think about corrupt politicians, they're scumbags, running from the law all the time. But they're rich, and will have more money than the vast majority of the population. This makes people upset, that a criminal can have more money than a law abiding citizen. That doesn't imply that the people that think its unfair that the criminals have money, wanted this dirty money themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:58 PM
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Wanting to have sex with =/= actually acting to have sex with. There is research pointing that Dark triad traits (Such as psychopathy) as causing sexual attraction to neurotypical women. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913012245 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886916301015 A lot of the women that sent love letters to the killers aren't exactly mentally ill, they are impulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:54 PM
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He's jealous that these guys get women and he doesn't. Poor people can be jealous of corrupt politicians, not because the money they have is dirty, but because the politicians have money while being criminals, while the law abiding citizen is poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:51 PM
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Its not simply media coverage. Media doesn't have that much power, most of the time the topics that media covers are the ones people consider more interesting(not necessarily in a positive way), not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:47 PM
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This is the exact study i was reffering to. People think that attraction follows morality, typical case of is-ought fallacy. The women that send love letters and make rows on the courts to see the psychopaths aren't necessarily mentally ill, they just fail to control their impulsiveness. Being attracted to someone doesn't imply you want to date them, we're humans so we can control instinctive impulses, but we need to recognize that these impulses exist. There is another uncomfortable truth regar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:45 PM
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He is saying that most men don't have hundreds of women simping for them, but serial killers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:31 PM
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I think the lament is that "Even crimnals get some and i don't". Not really surprising why would this be upsetting for some people. Its a similar feeling of when poor people see average people donating money to rich people, like when Kylie jenner fans donated money to her so she could get her first billion. Its not that they would WANT these people on their lives, but the perception of unfairness. In any case, i think the serial killer attraction is an interesting topic to study, if you're into …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:29 PM
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Women's level of competitiveness is overrated, because women, disliking each other or not, are much more likely to form communities to protect each other for practical reasons. Male brotherhood is a myth, its easy to see men defending each other on the internet as incels or RP/BP because they aren't getting anything, so they are not competitors. This consideration seldom manifests itself in real life. Women's competition is more visible because the competition that males want to engage is illega…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:10 PM
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I'm not being dramatic, i'm being sarcastic that you have such a bad response for data. "Oh, they're just experimenting! They don't think like that!". Without anything to back it up. Men truly want women who are in their early 20’s, even if they are like 60. Baseless statement, also irrelevant to the discussion. We're discussing if women have preferences for tall men, but now you're seething about old men for no reason. In the USA, 5’7” is shorter than 77% of the USA. In the USA, being 200cm is …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:48 PM
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But this isn't genuine, ignoring your desires by desperation is a bad idea for both sides. This kind of lowering standards is just lying to yourself. As as I said, does not produce genuine attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:34 PM
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Well, if most women trate date as a playtime they're in the wrong place. If they are in search of a date and are playing around by selecting out people they would WANT TO date would show that they are dumb and have no clue what they're doing on a dating site. And there is no reason to believe that, since the study i linked reflects this exact standard anyway. Its quite of a cop out just to not take actual dating patterns of people as what they truly want. 180 cm is 5'11'', and btw. Heights over …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 05:09 AM
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Lowering your standards won't happen because its a subconcious standard most of the time. These people won't do it through sheer willpower, avoiding dating is what they should do, instead use socializing without dating intentions as a way to discover alternative things that make you attracted to someone. People that spend time together are more likely to fall for each other. Proximity attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:59 AM
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There are multiple problems: People treat dating as some sort of moral or justice problem, it isn't. Calling out people for shallowness for wanting attractive people is just denial of how human nature works. The first criteria is physical attractiveness, and also, beyond that, even past the looks threshold, attraction is not negotiable. Having amazing personality is not guarantee of success, nor should it. Just because you're nice and fun and kind, you're not entitled to date. Deluding ugly peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:56 AM
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His statement is exaggerated, but yes, there is a massive cutoff for men below 6ft. https://preview.redd.it/e1ztyibue6m81.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=132617350218c6b925fe4248fe6518072967fb08 https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf Figure 2 Here is a social scientist discussing the data https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I8e5HsfpGs8
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:24 AM
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Yeah, Its a useless advice if you don't know how the person looks and who they are pursuing. But even if the person is legit ugly, its still hard to simply not gravitate torwards more attractive people. Its universal among humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:08 AM
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I already responded elsewhere that this is not true. For both men and women, 1st criteria for relationship is physical attractiveness. Incorrect, both men and women exhibit their first criteria for a succesful date as physical attractiveness. A study was done where women were asked what they prefer. They put attractiveness as last, personality as first. However, after analyzing the men they chose to date, the highest predictor of a succesful date was physical attractiveness. https://www.research…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:02 AM
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Yeah, some men are incels, but even those who aren't, struggle with wasting time on bad partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:58 AM
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Women didn't message all men, because women message men far less than men message women. And, the type of women that message men the most are the unnatractive ones. Again you keep spreading nonsense. women develop sexual attraction over time. Women care a lot about personality and identity. A fat guy who will be a good provider and protect his family is attractive to woman. Incorrect, both men and women exhibit their first criteria for a succesful date as physical attractiveness. A study was don…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:57 AM
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There is a recent study that found pretty much the same thing that the Okcupid study did :That most women find most men below average https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/personality/2023-costa.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:49 AM
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Incorrect. 66% of the men that messaged women, messaged the top 33% of women. Also, there is no scale of which one of those men did. If mostly the top 33% of men messaged the top 33% of women, there is no issue. (Protip, the top men are the ones that message the most) Also, men message women far more than women message men. So even if, say 10% of men messaged the unnatractive ones, if ts 1000 vs 100, these women still get more messages. In general its just bad to analyze preference through messa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:44 AM
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Secondly, women tend to have dating struggles tied to vetting and wasting their time on bad partners, not necessarily due to high standards. Everybody has this kind of problem. "Why can't i find a good partner" -> Says everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 03:38 AM
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You're describing dimorphic traits as masculinity, which is fair. But there is a difference between what is biologically masculine (dimorphic) and what is culturally perceived as masculine. Chads often have both of those, but sometimes it goes too much to what men perceive as masculine but not necessarily attractive to women , like Phil heat and other body builders. But i agree, when talking about "Chad" specially regarding pills, where the crux of the question is dating. Chad is whatever is att…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:50 AM
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K-Pop guys are stereotypically masculine? They are chads in looks, but they don't look like what most people think when they hear "Chad" (They think of the gigachad, Vin diesel, Henry cavill, thor...) I don't think this guy is stereotypically masculine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4 You know how popular JB was with the young girls right? So was the Twilight guy. The stereotypical chad is: Good looking, ripped and exhibit stereotypical masculine traits, like confidence , dominance, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:11 AM
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Your proof is anedotical evidence. You Cactaceaemomma , is the official spokesperson for women. I know plenty of people, and most of them do STEM, therefore, most people do STEM. I know its far too complicated to grasp what "evidence" consists. But you can start using google to start learning. We're not only fans models Cool, but that doesn't imply that regular women can't dress provocatively to attract the other sex. There is a woman down in the comment section that says this There are multiple…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:55 AM
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We are talking about women, part of them are sex workers. The funny part is you provide no proof for "women don't do it for men". While we know for a fact that only fans girls, and twitch thirst trappers do it precisely for that, so evidence is lacking for your claim. In any case, you can just add "Generally, usually, most" if you want to make these kind of statements. And provide evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:39 AM
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Its anatomically possible for me to lift 100kg if i go to the gym, but i'm not interested in doing that. People's sexuality is different, there is a bunch of sex positions out there, me and my wife don't want to try most of it. Its just how we are, we aren't really chasing advanced sexual experience. For example, i know that "prostate orgasms" exist for men, but i'm not interested, despite the fact that i could train to have it. My wife says the feels uncomfortable doing sex exercises. We tried …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:35 AM
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Sure many are, because there are billions of women on earth. But its not statistically the majority, and your experience won't change that. It would be as stupid as saying no women have multiple orgasms because my wife doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:10 AM
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Women who dress sexually aren't doing so because of a man. Those who have only fans do. Short term memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:08 AM
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Dude, you're conflating personal experience with general experience. The study is showing a randomized sample of people that tells you its not the majority of women. If you're someone more promiscuous, you're bound to find people that are more proficient with giving and having pleasure. And Its not me, my wife doesn't like to be pushed after she orgasms. We've had days that we had sex 6/7 times, but every time i or her come, we have to take a rest. I'm not going to force her to keep going, thats…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 11:20 PM
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Again, most women are one and done, this is data. Clitorian hypersensitivity is real An older 2009 study suggests that women may experience a physiological refractory period. Out of 174 females, 96% reported that the clitoris became too sensitive to continue sexual activity. So, while still physically possible, sex became less appealing and possibly painful. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-many-times-can-a-woman-come-in-a-row#refractory-period If you want personal experience, my wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:45 PM
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Pick up artistry, rizz, game and "psychological strategies to get women" are astrology for men. Sure buddy, that women is totally falling for the ugly guy if he says no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:40 PM
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The ultimate level of epistemological thought to acess general problems: From my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 10:00 PM
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If we're going for nature vs nurture. Quotas for women in STEM and jobs that were traditionally masculine should be dropped under the guise that they simply aren't as interested in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:58 PM
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Experiment and get her to the point she is cascading orgasms Most women are one and done, and its not so casual or dependent on the male that she gets multiple orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 09:45 PM
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What i feel the most strange complain about porn is that the female is enjoying herself far too much. I mean, is it wrong to have intense enjoyment of your partner as a desirable outcome? Expecting it to be always that way is immature, but aspiring to get to a level that your partner exhibits intense pleasure in some genuine way is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:33 PM
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Thats only for professional porn. Amateur porn (the type that is mostly watched) have minimal cuts and often portray very mundane positions. 90% of it is missionary, doggy, and girl on top, thats it. The unrealistic part is: The bodies of the actors, penis size, how hysterical it is, volume of ejaculation, number of female multiple orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:21 PM
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People don't assume that seeing a fictional depiction of something implies real expectations from that something. Shouldn't be different for porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:17 PM
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I don't see why a piece of media, designed for entertainment, needs to be realistic. Romcom male love interests are completely unrealistic, they are unrealistically handsome, tall with a well paying job or rich, expert romantics with a perfect personality. Are the Korean actors from K-dramas that have perfect faces problematic because they give girls unrealistic standards? I think most people can separate fiction from reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:05 PM
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I mean, Romcoms also portray unrealistic pictures of male behavior and physical characteristics. Most men aren't tall, handsome, experts on romance and with a prince charming personality. Nor are they rich ceo's that will fall for the shy 9-5 girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:03 PM
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A research over large samples has shown that levels of neuroticism are higher in women than men.\25]) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroticism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:40 PM
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You're doing something worthwhile that doesn't just involve the same monotonous routine with no scope of self improvement. Proud monotonous routine follower here!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:33 PM
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I feel like "being used for sex" is quite a .... Patriarchal view of sex, as if sex was solely for male pleasure and that women are "giving themselves away" so that men can use them as objects. If you're with someone that won't commit, you're not getting used for anything, you're both using each other for sexual pleasure, and there is nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:28 PM
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Strong? Calling people gamer dorks while talking with all authority about how popular culture for males is gross and failing to even use google to confirm easily verified information deserves no hand holding.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:49 PM
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Following PUA advice gets you kicked from malls for harassment. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.2459780 Don't do it. PUA is the belief that a homeless man can walk up to people and make them give all the money they have in their wallet if they just say the correct things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:24 AM
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After getting the expected reaction, They link their only fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:20 AM
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Do they have their own incel nomenclature? Are femcels twinkmaxxing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:11 AM
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There is your answer, the success is due to him being attractive, not him being bi. Also please, anedotical evidence vs general population statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:56 AM
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being good at chess doesn't make you attractive, sorry. Please lets not dilute the meaning of words until they mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:54 AM
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Men will commit to, or even marry women that they hate/are unattracted to. Most men lack options, at least here on reddit because they whine about it nonstop. This is not reflective of male dating choices. For casual sex, men are largely inescrupulous and will fuck anything. For LT, male mating choice is largely based on attraction vs availability. I.E, getting the most attractive girl they can get. Women don't follow this trend, since they weigh other factors more heavily for LT. So they are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:52 AM
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This transforms "chad" into a word without meaning. Chad, as is, is the typical picture of the alpha male. Good loking, fit, rich, with abundance of traditionally masculine traits. The other uses of Chad is simply males that are sexually appealing to a large or majority portion of women. Pretty boys and K-popers appeal to younger women. Traditionally attractive men like Henry cavill have a wider appeal. Those two could be considered Chads, but only Henry cavill is the chad in traditional sense. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:32 AM
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Just to add, the same bias exists when talking about general relationship advice. For instance, if a man says he is not sexually attracted to his wife anymore, he will get as answer: Stop watching porn and masturbating, work on yourself to find her attractive again If the wife is the one complaining, she gets as answer: Isn't he doing something that is turning you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:07 AM
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Hell, I've even read a few posts on the relationship subs where the guy says he's incredibly unhappy and unattracted to the girlfriend, but refuses to breakup with her. This happens more so with women tbf. Its called "settling" and "Dating Mr. Good enough". You can find similar threads here in reddit "I'm not sexually attracted to my boyfriend/husband" Men are less likely to go into long term commitment with people they aren't sexually attracted to. Because the vast majority of men (not all) are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:49 AM
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Eh, bisexual men often struggle dating women and have much easier time matching with men, same is true for bisexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:43 AM
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Holy shit its even worse! Its joever for "Touch grass!" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 01:31 AM
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Its not japanese, its Korean, its not game, its a very popular Romcom genre among women. Get out of your rock. Holy shit the lack of self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 12:00 AM
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Feel free to call the science "baseless" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOHdZKDldIg minute 25:45 https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/weexperimentonhumanbeings.html Read from "experiment 2:" there is a chart showing correlation between personality score vs attractiveness score.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:59 PM
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Absolute bonkers interpretation of data. Since its only percentages here. If there are 1000000 messages sent by men first, and only 1000 from women, only thing this shows is that, from the women that actually message first, they are likely to message average men. But it doesn't mean that these women are average themselves. Ugly women may be messaging more average guys. And this is what is the case. Men send much more messages than women sent. And unnatractive women send more messages than attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:41 PM
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lol, talk about living under a rock and talking about "real world"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:23 PM
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Brother why would a fetish subreddit be representative of the average popultion. Also, "Chad" is a term that doesn't necessarily overlap with what women want. Tiktok pretty boys get tons of attention from young women, yet they are not the "masculine dominant guy". They are just good looking. People should realize that Halo effect enhances personality traits from beautiful people. A good looking guy will be perceived as more confident and dominant if he is typically "active" while an unnatractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:46 PM
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Tell that to all the PUAs that were approaching women and got kicked for harassment. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.2459780 By making the first move you are opening yourself up to rejection which takes courage and confidence.Two traits that are attractive. Women should not have to carry this burden. Baseless statement. Perception of confidence is skewed by physical attractiveness. More attractive people are seen as more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:44 PM
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Don't cold approach women, big risk of getting kicked out of somewhere or getting framed for harassment. PUA guys went to a mall to chat up women and got banned. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.2459780 If you want to cold approach 1: Be attractive 2: Be on a place where social interaction is assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:30 PM
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The game developers who make these sexualized characters are males. It's a product designed for males by males. I think it's gross and drives women gamers away but hey whatever. Dorama male characters are a product designed for females by females. I think its gross and it drives Men away from watching doramas. There is 0 problem to appealing to a target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 10:16 PM
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Myself and MANY of my friends have gone from not thinking a guy was attractive, to being madly in love with him and thinking he’s super hot because of his personality and getting to know him. And other people just like their friends personality without wanting to date or have sex with them. Boys and girls get into friendzone because some people can't understand that liking your personality =/= i wanna fuck you. Your experience is not representative of the overall experience. Do not project your …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:42 PM
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But if a 5 asks a girl out and she does know him and loves his personality, he’s gonna look like an 8 to her, and way more likely to say yes Nope, this is an unrealistic view of friendship. If you like someone's personality, it doesn't imply you want to date them. This goes against published research and also stated experiences of people in general. Plus going from 5 to 8 is fairy tale level of thinking. Sexual attraction doesn't follow from good personality traits. A very quick counter example.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:16 PM
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Friends fall for each other all the time. Men and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 09:07 PM
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You're treating this as some sort of concious decision, or moral decision, it isn't. This happens subconciously. You(like many women) are trying to imply that personality trumps looks, but studies have shown that this isn't true. In fact, in the same study, women say exactly what you said, but after being proposed some guys to date, the preference switched from personality to physical attraction. If this was just how you say it is, situationships wouldn't exist. Fact of the matter is, a guy who …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:59 PM
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Dating works following the motto "The richer get richer, the poorer get poorer" The guys that can afford to approach and pickup girls are the same ones that girls will approach without them making the first move. Guys that get selected by girls as proper partners are seen as more attractive to other girls, guys that get constant rejection are seen as less attractive. Mate choice copying. Problem with people is that they are hellbent in thinking about dating as a sort of moral problem, and employ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:28 PM
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Creep are not good people. Not all ugly people are creeps. I know TONS of guys who are not considered attractive (nor that I’m attracted to) who I would still vouch for because of the kind and genuinely good person they are. Google halo effect. his is actually a perfect example of why it’s important to first and foremost BE A GOOD HUMAN BEING. If you’re a good person with a beautiful soul, and are rejected, you’re chances with their friends will not be harmed!! Are you going to be a match for ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 08:23 PM
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This is reddit, be ready for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:50 PM
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Nope, data shows the recent dating scene is 40% online, around 20-30% restaurants/bars/clubs and 10% workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:41 PM
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Attending mixed sex events that involve alcohol and dancing on the other hand, that’s the ticket. Inb4 grape (remove the g) comments
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:38 PM
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Social circle just improves the chances of you attracting someone by reducing the influence of looks. So for someone that is average and below(but not too ugly), they are more likely to find a real match IF interest is shown. Keep trying worst thing she might say is no This one is just BS. Women want the guys they are attracted to to try, not every man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:35 PM
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Not autistic, but simply more antisocial. Its a trend with the younger generations. Less friends, less going out, less talking in person. Without this, there is no interpretation of social cues, since there is no body language to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:26 PM
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If you're interested in a date there, you will need to wait for someone to show interest. Or otherwise find opportunity with friends of friends, outside the circle. Not uncommon to hear women gossiping about "i have a friend from X that is looking for a date". Chasing and pick uping girls is for the attractive guys. For the mortals, we get selected. Problem is that the signals women give to guys they are interested in often overlap with the signals of those they are creeped out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:23 PM
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A social circle isn't a farm to "raise" your potential suitors. Dating someone in your social circle is more like realizing someone is interested in your, and making the move. The social circle is there mostly to help you find these signals. Friends(that aren't competing) will help friends get a date. Be it inside or outside the circle. Dating in your inner circle has bigger chances of success, but larger penalties. If someone in a group of close friends makes a move on someone and get rejected,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:12 PM
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His options are not the ones he wants to date. If you worked your ass off to open yourself to the "leftovers" "Post wall" "Single mothers" that are despised by the RP community, you were better off before without options. The funny part is that the guy who fails at self improvement after trying, will be getting selected out even by those he despises, his options are going to be desperate women. Good work. What's the alternative? To not improve at all? What does that accomplish exactly? In regard…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:48 PM
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per RP thought, Hypergamy requires top level success. RP intends to guide men to become alphas, not Mr. Good enough. The Mr. Good enough are the betabuxers they fear to become. the Mr. Good enough is the one that can't find women on his level because of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:40 PM
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Its not guaranteed success, but likely success. If people want to lose weight, they can just ensure they are at caloric deficit. Not a lot of people do this, but those who do, succeed, because, you know, thermodynamics. A good/bad advice is judged by how high the success chance is if followed. If its low, its bad advice. Playing the lottery to get rich is bad advice. The alternative? Well i don't know, dating young hot women is a prospect that is difficult for most men, kinda like getting rich. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 06:08 PM
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Not being a Requirement as in 100% is a pointless way to dismiss a problem. Its not 100% certain that homeless people can't become rich, but its incredibly rare, to the point that giving this advice to homeless people is insulting. You don't claim that you are unlucky, you claim that you can't get a gf because of XYZ The ones that get gfs despite bad qualities XYZ are the ones that are lucky, being lucky implies that they are statistically rare, being statistically rare, means most of the guys w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:56 PM
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I assume that advice only counts if most people that take it, succeed. RP advice not only has a very low success rate, even if it did have a high one, due to hypergamy, the success rate would plummet down due to market inflation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:45 PM
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lol, no. Hypergamy is the act of women dating up, often way up their level. So its the men that get selected. This is wrong thinking. The more men who raise up their levels, the more that 80/20 thing starts to look like 60/40. Only if you don't believe in hypergamy. More quality men flooding the market pushes the average UP, and hypergamy always feeds above average. So this is pointless, if not, then you don't believe in hypergamy. And that the problem isn't that women are picky, but that men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:43 PM
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The shortest guy is actually the one with the most attractive face. The other guys are pretty average or below. The leader certainly is. More examples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26VFZnT0My8 This is what happens when PUAs run around. Banned from public spaces due to harassment https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.2459780 You're many years late. Most people know PUA's just a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:40 PM
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Statistically there is. Average age gap in relationships is 2 years on developed countries. Dating apps data show young women often filter out 30s men. Large age gaps are more prevalent in underdeveloped countries(Talking about africa here mostly, even on SEA the age gap is far below 10 years). And the reason is that in these countries, women are still dependent on men to feed themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:33 PM
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A red pill analogy with career advice would be "If you want to be succesful, you need to be rich" Which is a bad advice. RP believes in hypergamy, and that hypergamy is rampant nowadays, to attract "quality" women, you need to be an alpha, I.E, you need to be at the top. Bad advice, prone to cause frustration and lost time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:30 PM
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Disagreeing is pointless, there is data to corroborate this. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5640931_Sex_Differences_in_Mate_Preferences_Revisited_Do_People_Know_What_They_Initially_Desire_in_a_Romantic_Partner https://pancakemouse.wordpress.com/2017/10/30/mythbusting-women-actually-care-about-physical-attractiveness-more-than-men-do/ And i really don't see how citing celebrities is a way to make general statements about population. For the general population, physical attractiveness is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:20 AM
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RP isn't really an ideology to get out of inceldom. Its an ideology that is supposed to get you substantial success with women, specially quality women. And, says them, it requires to climb the social ladder. The point of the RP is that becoming "alpha" is possible. Alpha is not just some above average guy, by their own description of the current dating market, hypergamy excludes the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 02:00 AM
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Wow, this is spot on. Pretty succint way of expressing the problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:54 AM
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Nope, all advice is not useless. Example: If you want to lose weight, you need to be on a caloric deficit. If that want to lose weight do this, most people will lose weight, since this is just how thermodynamics works. If most people do not do this, it doesn't matter, the advice is still sound. The problem with the advice of RP is that its by definition only achievable by a small minority. Because it involves climbing to the top of the social ladder, by definition, becoming part of a small minor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:51 AM
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PUA? ahahahahahha. I must link you how "good" pua guys are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql1vpch4GGM Warning: Physically dangerous levels of cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:31 AM
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Nope, one succeeds because they are better than others. Messi isn't messi because he simply put in the work. He is messi because he put in the work and he is exceptionally more talented than everybody else. Most people fail not because they don't try, but because they aren't good enough. All high paying careers are incredibly competitive, and most people get filtered out by the thousands, not because they didn't study, but because they are less knowledgeable, less intelligent, and/or didn't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:19 AM
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Dear self glazing user. I'm using red pill terminology to demonstrate its incoherent. I'm married. You are free to click away.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:14 AM
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women are attracted to strength, confidence and power. Incorrect, data shows 1st parameter for women is physical attraction (just like men) then earning power and then personality, with those two last sometimes switching places. For men, these things often come later in life And by that logic, it should entail that these older man are more attractive on the overall dating market. But this is not true, average marriage gap is 2 years on developed countries, relationships with high age gaps are ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:05 AM
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Older guys have more success on their age range. Older guys scoring girls 10+ years below their age is statistically rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:52 AM
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All of that so you finally discover that 20s women aren't attracted to 30s men. Its still betabux, you're wasting your time improving yourself to date someone who isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:44 PM
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Red Pill advice: wait until you are older and have more money then buy hair and have plastic surgery and try to date 10s because women are sexually attracted to old men's money Pretty much, and this kind of advice is prone to cause frustration, just isolate yourself and skip a whole part of a healthy human being's life just to 20s women don't want to date 30s+ men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:34 PM
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Of course it is, RP says that this process of climbing the ladder is actionable. This is what Tate, Hamza, Rollo, Cooper, Fresh and fit, all the RP gurus say. The whole point of the RP is finding "quality" women , these quality women aren't settling, unless you don't believe in hypergamy. And what do you need to do to get a quality women? According to the RP, self improve to become a high value men, a man that is in the top, that will be selected by the quality women. If this wasn't a central te…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:30 PM
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I didn't disprove hypergamy, never tried to do that. Its pointless because dating advice should work for the average person. Say someone is poor, is this advice good "Bro just practice football and become just as good as messi, he has millions" This is terrible advice. Its unrealistic And if it wasn't unrealistic, there would be no messis, because everyone would be just as good. This is red pill belief, an ideology that promotes that, to succeed in dating, you need to be among the best, but it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:16 PM
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Ironically, the RP advice being succeful, imples that women have more hypergamous choices, meaning they get even more selective, making it harder for the average guy. Hence why it makes no sense for the RP to be an open group, everyone is competing with each other by default in this medium. Assuming the RP is true, it should be an "alphas only" group, not something that has to be spread to everybody and sold like online courses (who are mostly scams).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:11 PM
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What i'm trying to say is that RP by its own beliefs, is an ideology that kills itself. Its an ideology that the more people follow it, the worse it gets. Every RP is competing with each other, for every new quality man in the market, by supply and demand, the value of a quality man decreases. Every RP is racing with each other to become a high quality male before others. Hence why you can't really consider it a dating advice. Its required to work only for the alphas, in a way, it requires the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:07 PM
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But raising socioeconomical status to the point of becoming among the "top" is not realistic advice. If you have someone poor, you can't advise them to just become rich through hard work. They should strive to become average, but average isn't enough for hypergamy. Isn't being the "top males" the whole point of hypergamy? So? For the RP to work, it shouldn't even be a movement, as it requires most people to fail for the advice to actually work, so spreading the knowledge would do more harm to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:00 PM
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Enjoy the decay isn't different from that. You know its over, so you just enjoy the decay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:55 PM
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Its like saying "Don't go into a football career if you thinking you're going to become messi" A pretty good advice. Following a path in search of a level of gain that you're very unlikely to get is misguided. These paths should be followed by passion, not by expecting gain at the end of the hurdle. If you like self improvement, do it for yourself, not in hope to get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:50 PM
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Exercise is a small part of self improvement. Wealth, status and "masculinity" is what most BP preach, hence why they talk about the 30s peak, this is where men had enough time to get there. The point i'm making is that even if 100% of men self improvement, doing so would be in the detriment of all, because they would be just raising the average and they would get cut off by hypergamy again. So, for RP advice to work, it needs for either most people to fail, or most people to not know about it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:46 PM
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And some bluepill guys get succesful with "personality". Dating advice needs statistical merit, you can always find someone that wins the lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:29 PM
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You think the advice of becoming fit is contradictory, because if everyone did it, it wouldn't work anymore? Surely you can realise how stupid your perspective on this is? The point is it works now because everyone isn't fit. This is precisely how hypergamy functions, therefor the advice works, now. The contradiction is because RP advice NEEDS MOST RP to fail. If they all succeed, they all fail. Do you not see how this is a terrible advice? The advice only works because MOST PEOPLE CAN'T be "top…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:28 PM
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Then young people can't follow RP advice, so they will fail. If they will only start following the advice at 24, then it will take even longer for him to reach his peak. You're not making any sense. Again, a 28 year old self improved for 4 years is better than a 32 year old self improved for 8, this is the fact, therefore, time does not benefit men. It only benefits those who do it early. f everyone starts seriously caring about their health and income at 22, a 24 year old will win over the 22 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:14 PM
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Thus, the advice is useless for most men. Why follow it? To work, the advice REQUIRES most guys to fail. This is why its bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:08 PM
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By your time argument, the 32 years, doing self improvement for longer, should be better than the 28 year old dude, doing self improvement for a shorter time. This is false, the 28 year old is better. So, its not time that makes things work, but doing stuff early. You're ignoring the two parts of the argument ONE PART is that if everyone self improves, it becomes the new norm, so its useless. The SECOND PART: Is that if only a small portion of men will succeed following the advice, why follow th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:04 PM
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No, it’s not the second scenario, the fundamental redpill explanation on why your average male fails to become high value/top % is because they lack discipline not because they can’t do it. Now I think the redpill explanation is wrong and it is because of genetics that average men can’t become high value but that is a black pill belief not redpill. Even if they magically did, this wouldn't solve hypergamy, they would all become the new average, and the status quo maintained. Hence, incoherent. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:00 PM
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Now compare an average 32 years old with the average 28 years old, both self improved. Who has the better deal in the dating market? Yeah, the younger. Because the older is now outside of the young girls radar. So the argument of time is false. The whole reason RP says you peak on your 30s is because this is where its actually feasible. If you could get status, fitness and wealth by 28, nobody would be complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:53 PM
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Nobody is saying men aren't struggling with dating. I'm just saying RP advice is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:47 PM
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Nope, RP thought, through hypergamy and "the lack of patriarchy" states that men's SMV without anything to back it up is far lower than women's. Giving that in young years, both of those will have their SMV attached to looks, by women's hypergamous nature, they are going to chase "alphas" while the average guys struggles with dating. Thus, the average men needs to improve himself to increase SMV, and that takes time, often, too much time, and "grinding". And here is the problem, its misguided to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:46 PM
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Being monetarily superior doesn't imply that you're monetarilly superior enough. We assume that the guy has average looks or below here (otherwise he wouldn't need self improvement to date) Sure, if a guy has 28 and is already succesful, he is going to have a great time dating, this however, is rare, much rarer than the ones that achieve success in 30s-40s. At 28 this is the age of a doctor just started his career after uni + specialization. Assuming he started at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:40 PM
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I think the vast majority of men are capable of becoming high value. Why would this not be true? Ok, so you believe in the first scenario. Hypergamy is relative, so if the vast majority of men BECOME high value, then they won't be high value anymore, but the new average. To work, the RP philosophy requires that most fail. So the advice is mostly useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:36 PM
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I’m not redpilled but this is a misrepresentation of the redpill beliefs. For the self improvement one, most men aren’t going to improve so the improved man will never become the average, one of the few self-improvement shit that actual works is losing weight yet most people(including men) in the developed world are overweight or obese. This is the second scenario, most people will fail, so its not good advice. Dating advice needs to be on the reach of the average man. This is like saying someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:34 PM
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"If every guy went to the gym, this would be the new normal. Therefor the advice of going to the gym to become more attractive is contradictory" Exactly, if EVERY guy becomes fit, by Hypergamy, the average guy is now fit, so women will start looking for the fittest among the fit, status quo remains. This is what hypergamy entails, if you don't believe in this, you're blue pilled, lol. "only a small % of men have the discipline to consistently work out, meaning this advice is not useful to the va…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:28 PM
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In the RP advice, the self improvement as a way to get more SMV is "Get wealth, status and become more dominant/masculine/bad boy" the only part that is "not virtuous" is the last, but its also the one that has the least effect on someone who is presumably struggling with dating. The problem with this motto is that, since hypergamy is relative, Either: A: most men fail to enhance their SMV to the desired level, thus status quo remain, bad advice B: Most men succeed, but that causes hypergamy to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:17 PM
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Yes? I'm not saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:08 PM
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In looks, yeah, but otherwise people generally want money and success regardless of dating. RP tieing this to dating is a recipe for frustration. Frustration that already happens with people that go to the gym, btw. This is another misguided advice. And, i know people lie to themselves, but in general, its mainstream to "self improve" to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:06 PM
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Why are you calling them "old" if the gap is only 3-5? If the gap is this size, then either both are young, or both are old. Older men aren't getting young women, marriage age gap is 2-3 years on developed countries. And, in the small % of older men with young women, a part of that are simply getting used for their status, which isn't a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:03 PM
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I'm not saying hypergamy doesn't exist. I'm saying the overall advice is useless. raising one’s socioeconomic status increases options. That is true for everything, what makes RP "distinct" in that regard is that you can "act" to get there. This is the incoherence, its incoherent with how hypergamy works. I'm not trying to say that hypergamy is irrelevant, or that women aren't selective, just that RP advice is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:00 PM
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Seems more like a blackpilled motto. Red pillers (Tate, Hamza, Cooper, etc...) are all in big on that "there is hope" and that you can "self improve" and become a "high value man" that will be rejecting single mothers left and right (lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:53 PM
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Self improvement as a means to climb up the dating and social ladder isn't good advice. This is what the RP does. Self improvement "for yourself" exists for far longer. Its the "work hard and you will be rewarded" that every person says to their kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:49 PM
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Which brings you to the second scenario, if only a small % of men can actually self improve to the point of becoming "high value" than the overall advice is useless to most men. Dating advice is something that the average person can do. Here, if i assume that the average man can, then the result is bad, if i assume the average men can't, then the advice is useless. Hence the incoherence. Women however do lower their standards as they age, despite what they say, so a man's position does improve a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:47 PM
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I mean, this is your view on the RP, but things such as "hypergamy" "self improvement" "getting status and wealth to date" and "Wall" are all part of the Red pill. What you see above is basically what andrew tate says, and he has a significant amount of following.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:36 PM
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I know people who won the lottery, does that mean you can use playing the lottery as financial strategy? Nope. This is the same argument some people use:"I know people who were homeless, worked hard, and now are rich", therefore, you don't need anything else to become rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:17 PM
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Lack of confidence stems from lack of positive reinforcement i.e- Constant failures and rejections. To be confident at something, you need practical examples of success. Since "being confident" implies "believing in your competence", if you're not competent, you can't be confident, only delusional. Success breeds confidence, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:11 PM
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Uh, no. Being good looking and passive is far better than being ugly and active. See unsolicited messages data in dating apps. Most of it is to attractive guys, not to the "Active" ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:09 PM
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being kind (not just nice) makes you MORE attractive to a woman if you’re already physically attractive to her. I don't think this claim can be general. A significant amount of women prefer traits that are "stereotipically masculine" like aggressiveness and dominance in detriment of kindness. More so when talking about sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 08:00 PM
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All the guys that women are complaining about "situationships", you can google it, you will find dozens on tiktok. Fact of the matter is, physical attraction is the biggest factor in dating. So people will put up with bad personalities for what makes their monkey brain tingle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:56 PM
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This topic should die already. Stated preferences from both sexes differ from actual preferences. Physical attractiveness is the highest predictor of dating sucess, for both men and women, and the magnitude is similar, period. That women like to pretend it isn't is irrelevant, just show the literature, and move on. Most people are neurotypical, thus they will all be at least "mid" enough for a relationship based on personality. Also, trying to improve or change a trait of yours that doesn't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:46 PM
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Tongue game and finger game is overrated in my experience. It didn't help with making sex better, more often than not, the block for female orgasm for me is psychological. Which may or may not be because i'm ugly, but it is though. Having the women be significantly horny BEFORE any kind of foreplay is in my experience far more effective for orgasms or overall good sex experience. Becoming more attractive and exhibiting traits that make them mentally aroused (dominance, for example) is where i wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 07:05 PM
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