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Africans in Ukraine are still in Ukraine even if they're Africans. The bullets don't discriminate. Stop pretending that there is an epidemic of fake refugees If you don't want Russia to have the pretense of saying they're fighting nazis, stop using Nazi talking points
/r/MensRights28/02/22 02:28 PM
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Shengen laws allow students to also move between borders. There are enough European government officials declaring it to be about race for it not to be racist. It doesn't cost anybody money to let them leave, it costs them money to keep them in
/r/MensRights28/02/22 09:49 AM
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And they're also not letting non-whites out
/r/MensRights27/02/22 03:32 PM
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They've been conscripting women too. Just not as much as men
/r/PussyPass27/02/22 10:43 AM
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Nah, you'll be fine. It will be just Ukranians that suffer from the bombs and Russians that suffer from the sanctions The US will not invade because that will escalate into a nuclear exchange
/r/MensRights25/02/22 08:53 PM
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Did any Afghans die?
/r/MensRights04/09/21 02:50 PM
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Most people get divorced for financial reasons The other reasons is that they actually believe what people tell them relationships are supposed to look like. E.g. women want men to be open with their feelings, when women want men to be open with some feelings in the appropriate time and place and in the appropriate way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:18 AM
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That's what emotions are like lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 11:06 AM
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Yeah, the better thing to tell people is that everybody is guaranteed to fall in love and will have a happy family. The dissonance between societal expectations and the failure to live up to then will have no consequences What's that? That's how incels came to be? Welp, they'll get better when they get gfs :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 03:18 PM
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The more people have (women, status, money, etc.), the more entitled they feel. He felt insulted particularly because he has other options There are several studies about this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:13 AM
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Exactly, those who can't move out are already branded as losers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:55 PM
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You are to angry to think through what you just said. You need to straw man my positions and attack the character you think I am in order to shelter your fragile worldview that must always be at odds with reality I'm not an American or a westerner, and my opinion is based off of the praise from people who have experienced both capitalism and communism You cannot accept this fact, and you must reject reality in order to protect your ideology and comfort yourself in the notion that you have nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 06:05 AM
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Yes, they were changes of systems that didn't start by individuala changing themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:56 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/ Real wages have not been increasing. By what measurement have lives gotten better? The most generous reading of the data can only indicate that things haven't gotten worse
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:52 PM
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Just one society. I'm begging you to give me an example
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 07:50 PM
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Let's say what you're saying is true, why are people food insecure then? If there wealth is going up, why were 1 in 5 Americans food insecure prior to the crisis? Why have small businesses been shutting down? Why has this generation gotten a record low share (a fraction of a fraction) of the wealth that was owned by the previous generation at the same age? Do you think people have more free time and disposable income?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 04:29 PM
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Find the things that are causing a societal change, and fix those There may be a way to regulate porn consumption. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:42 PM
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Her profile is named after Ayn "systems aren't real, but private property and corporations are" Rand
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:40 PM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:32 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/25/the-homeownership-rate-is-falling-among-millennials-heres-why.html https://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-delaying-buying-homes-us-homeownership-decline-2019-4 Your source defines home ownership as the rate of homes that are occupied by their owner, not the percentage of the population that owns its own homes you can't simultaneously believe that there are record evictions, like a food security, higher rates of debt, and yet somehow more wealth at the same ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:32 PM
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Real wages haven't. Food security hasn't. Home ownership hasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:55 AM
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My point is that it doesn't help anybody to just point fingers and blame people. I would rather focus on solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:39 AM
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The economy improved, but people's living conditions haven't
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:38 AM
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Isn't that encouraged by the systems that we have in place?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:37 AM
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I don't know what the solution is, I just know that's what we have isn't working
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:36 AM
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If it is society that is improving, then that is a systemic change and not improvement that starts with the individual
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:34 AM
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Even if you think so, it's clearly not good enough. People aren't going to be okay with decreasing life quality, no matter the reason
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:33 AM
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So how can you say that one cause the other and not to the other way around? Correlation is not causation
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 11:33 AM
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A lot of things are novel. Cheap screens, microplastics, disney remakes, video games, Lil' wayne
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 03:00 AM
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Revolutions aren't self-improvement though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:58 AM
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Supply and demand changes are not boom and bust cycles Businesses weren't shutting down en masse and people weren't expanding their businesses (in so far as businesses existed)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:56 AM
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Like when?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:54 AM
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They traded, but not in such a way that could cause boom and bust cycles There weren't stock markets or federally backed loans
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:54 AM
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We aren't better than ever. Life expectancy is dropping for the first time since we measured such things, climate change will ruin us, overwork is up, people are getting evicted, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:52 AM
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There are more libertarians and far right than socialists. But almlost all political scientists agree that as the status quo fails, people get pulled to political ideologies. Be it socialism or fascism
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:31 AM
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Okay, so people end up being socialists (free healthcare isn't socialism, but whatever) it's just that people tend to be that way there You saw education centres where ideas opposed to socialism are pushed to the forefront and economicw classes resoundly reject the idea of basic welfare, saw people come to different conclusions than what they we're taught, and came to the conclusion that everybody is coming to those conclusions because they're tricked Okay, buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:03 AM
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I doubt it can be solved with one policy solution, but higher wages, healthcare, and hour limits might help Or you could go the other way and [parody] the poor
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 02:00 AM
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What did they teach you about socialism? What class was it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:37 AM
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If that's the kind of economy that you mean, then boom and bust cycles are not that old hello, spice trade? Silk trade? Gold and salt? Less than 400 years old
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:37 AM
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The wealth inequality in America is now worse than in the French revolution. You do know what lost cities, ghost towns and nomadic migrations are? Not to mention the effects of wars, famines and plagues which would empty entire population centers? Yes, but none of those things had an effect on moving the global concentration of people living in rural areas into urban areas. Moving between two urban areas is not the same as moving into urban areas Boom and bust cycles have gone on as long as ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:12 AM
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Has that ever actually successfully changed society?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:09 AM
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Bro, America has 25% of the world's prison population. How much more accountable can they get?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:08 AM
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Cool, I'll tell the people who work 12 hours a day and can barely afford rent or even insulin that none of it is actually impacting their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:07 AM
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When did real capitalism exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:06 AM
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Do you have any data?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:05 AM
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I wish food was secure man, 1 in 4 Americans are now food insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:05 AM
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Sounds like you can't trust anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:04 AM
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The boom and bust cycles are pretty new. The levels of wealth inequality are also pretty new. The cities are only waning, they are not waxing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:04 AM
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Yeah, but there is a reason they consistently go down during economic depressions and spring back up during boom cycels (though in a diminished method). You have to believe that all the other cases were flukes, but this time it is due to technology and all other conditions play no role
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:03 AM
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I hate to be an enlightened centrist, but both BP and RP people have been denying the systemic issues. But good point on the ones highlighted by the ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 01:01 AM
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Does that help?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 12:59 AM
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Extrapolating from reading about times of economic depression (like the great depression) and how people were having sex outside of marriages but db was more common
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 12:59 AM
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A better world is always just a theory until you try it out. The only world that is real is exactly the one you live in now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:46 PM
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Not more casual sex, just more sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:45 PM
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Couldn't find any sources on the industrial revolution, so you'll just to take my word for it lol In the great depression it was a mixed bag https://www.encyclopedia.com/economics/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/gender-roles-and-sexual-relations-impact-great-depression
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:44 PM
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Do you have data to back that up? Genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:40 PM
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I have yet to meet anybody who graduated from any college, except from China who was ever taught Marxism except slight hints in some elective classes I thought you guys loved rich people being allowed to get power and privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:39 PM
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Anprim gang, rise up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:14 PM
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Depressingly true lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:14 PM
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Because 'we' can't fix systemic issues at large. Only work with them. Then who can? Also, the word you should have used, is technology. That's what it all comes down to. We point fingers while the machine laughs. This technology seems to have had the same effect multiple times through the centuries. It also seems to impact different cultures in different ways
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:13 PM
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Sexlessness became an issue the last few years since it started increasing rapidly in 2008. Also was an issue in the 1850's and 1860's and a little bit in the Great Depression. I mean that those that follow RP stop being sexless and those that don't (either because they don't believe in it or because they aren't aware of it) , stay sexless. That doesn't explain why sexlessness is up though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:12 PM
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How is the commodification of dating and sex through popular apps with user controlled points of sale not actual? Oh no, I think that we have definitely commodified people and sex. I just don't consider it to be part of the gig economy because you don't do it for income Every generation until now thought the younger generation was horrible. Those generations had the same statistics we're complaining about. Rising suicide rates, simultaneous increase in debauchery, and sexlessness, bad stock (peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:10 PM
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I don't think I have definitive answer, but women tend to do three important things: 1-They raise their standards for one night stands 2-They tend to associate wealth with attractiveness 3-They need to be in the mood for sex This leads to three related problems: 1-Who has the energy or time for a real relationship in this economy? Better to just get your brains fucked out by a rando, which raises standards 2-Wealth disparity = Attractiveness disparity. Nobody wants to sleep with Stan burger flip…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:06 PM
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IDK, really. Just thinking out loud. ​ I would just think that spending more time at work and stress lead to women (and men, sometimes) to have a lower sex drive and to have less time for sex. Only the people who can afford to have sex and tend to be very picky because they don't have time to spare. Plus, the general attitude of constantly needing to hustle and compete
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 08:01 PM
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Not going to give to much personal info, but I went to one of the top 10 schools in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:59 PM
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Men had been getting laid just fine before smartphones, social media and OLD and society was very much capitalistic. It was the advent of those things that caused sexlessness to skyrocket. The problems we've complaining about arose in the US and the UK in the 1700s and the 1800s. They aren't exactly new to the internet I didn't say that capitalism didn't change human behavior, I said that capitalism isn't the problem. If capitalism changes human behavior, and human behavior is the problem, doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:57 PM
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Let's say you have a group of 100 poor people and 100 rich people. Every rich person is having 1 kid each, averaging 1 kid per family. 10 of the poor people are having 12 kids each, averaging 1.2 kid per family. Although the poor are having more children on average as a group, it does not necessarily mean that the rest of the poor are having equal amounts of sex. ​ Obviously this doesn't consider inter-class mixing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:53 PM
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Socialism or communism? The terms have been jumbled up so much that it doesn't matter what you call it (Lenin and other communists called it state capitalism with a strong welfare state, everybody else called it socialism/communism). Closer to how the USSR was run than the US (obviously not in everything) Because females enjoy the benefits of "socialism" (to varying degrees, of course) pretty much world-wide. I think that's a good thing. It is not a zero sum game. I would rather a world where bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:51 PM
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https://www.livescience.com/62781-why-are-suicide-rates-rising.html https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/suicide/index.html https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/05/the-global-suicide-rate-is-growing-what-can-we-do/ Unfortunately not. At least in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:48 PM
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Not the reason. A reason. A group having more children doesn't indicate a healthy or rigorous sex life of the majority of the people in that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:46 PM
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Biology. Capitalism isn't the problem. So, the behavior of humans have been changing in a statistically measurable manner in ways not seen before the advent of capitalism, but are still just biology? That would require removing unfair divorce and child support laws, welfare, gender quotas and legalizing financial abortion I agree some, I disagree some. But those are systemic solutions. There is a individual solution , red pill. It's been gaining popularity, and yet more and more people are sexle…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:44 PM
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We exist in a Wendy's
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:41 PM
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My reality? Excuses? I mean, rates of incarceration have been going up, the governments surveillance powers have increased, there are at least two global powers that can kill you with no consequences legally, and there has been a war on drugs for half a century. How harsh do we have to be before the positive effects kick in?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:41 PM
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I think you meant the reason, but I think they are an important part that can't be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:39 PM
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You said a lot of interesting things, especially about the internet amplifying expectations both good and bad. ​ However, I just want to say that I doubt simply higher recognition of mental illness is the reason we are registering higher rates is because suicide is also increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:37 PM
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Oh? Funny, I thought I was asking questions You were asking questions, but the questions you ask simply show a bias. I just thought it was worth noting. It's easy to look at differences in other systems and notice their failures and to think those failures are unique to it. ​ So-uh, no stories, no evidence no answers to my questions then, huh? It's ok, no need to sweat. I already gave stories above (it's okay though, we all forget), and I mentioned the attitude of the majority of the people livi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:35 PM
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I just think that it is ultimately ineffective for fixing societal ills
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:31 PM
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Group and thing are two different things. ​ Do you not believe that you could help people lose wait if the addictive materials in food were banned? Do you not believe that people having time off would help them create interpersonal relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:30 PM
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People will always struggle, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't reduce struggle. This mindset also implies that the only reason for the statistical change in society is due to a spontaneous collective failure. ​ I don't want to fix myself. I'm fine. I care about other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:27 PM
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I mean other its hard to find data about this, but this very conversation proves this. You asked about the concerns of people who didn't like their life in the USSR, but the same answer applies to capitalism. I'm not accusing you of dishonesty, just implicit bias
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:25 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:24 PM
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The gig economy of dating and sex I meant the actual gig economy lol I feel like the things you claim (Idk if I disagree) mistake correlation with causation. Perhaps it is the other way around, perhaps they are just happening at the same time. ​ I'm reading about moral panic in the 1860's and sounds a lot like what we're complaining about now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:23 PM
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Buddy, I wish colleges were half as based as you think they are. They are libertarian education camps through and through lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:21 PM
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You're making the mistake I highlighted. you refuse to address what causes people to behave in certain manners, and simply place the blame on them Even if you're right, that solves nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:19 PM
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I'm religious myself, but let's not pretended that the most prominent people who evoke religion are proposing any real solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:18 PM
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I don't think the government debt plays as much of a part as overwork does
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:17 PM
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📣It's not about me. I give a shit about other people and want to help them📣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:17 PM
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We're already going through this in another thread lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:15 PM
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Blaming them helps reach a solution. You cannot fix a problem if you do not recognize the cause. At best, you treat symptoms
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:15 PM
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I never claimed there weren't serious issues? I'm just saying that most of them had a taste of both and preferred the Communist government Edit: We should strive to meet everyone's desires. Yet, we only criticize countries transitioning to communism for not doing enough while deliberately ignoring the capitalist countries that make MOST people unhapppy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 07:12 PM
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True. Caring about things isn't cool
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:42 PM
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Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:40 PM
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Yeah, I believe in free will, but I think external circumstances limit your options
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:36 PM
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I believe that the way we deal with it and the reasons they are perpetuated are systemic issues
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:35 PM
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For the majority it was ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Obviously people always suffer under all economic systems, but I prefer a system where the majority are happy rather than a majority that can't afford a $40p dollar emergency I like to think of myself as a man of data, so the stories don't matter as much and tend to sway people based on feelings rather than thought. However, there are stories. There are stories of people who appreciated the new food security, the lower working hours, the guaranteed housing, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:34 PM
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Yep, and I prefer how it worked on in real life in most places to the current status quo. And, according to the people from most of the previous Soviet states, life was better then It wasn't perfect and certainly had massive problems, but still preferable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:21 PM
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Communism is a stateless, moneyless, classless society in which the means of production and land are not privately owned, and where things are distributed according to everyone's need through direct democracy I haven't been lucky enough to experience it irl, no. Why does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:07 PM
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Can you guarantee that there will be a job that pays $35 an hour for everyone who learns a trade? Do you have any evidence for the mindset being the only barrier? How many days do you have to fight? How do you define giving up?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 09:57 AM
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I mean scarcity for luxury products (e.g. gold) and time-limited scarcity (e.g. who gets the new phone first), but I don't think that will be a big issue
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 09:55 AM
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I understand the immediate reaction to information that conflicts with your pre-conceived notions is often to dismiss it, but facts don't care about your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 09:54 AM
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Communism has never existed. Even Lenin said the USSR wasn't communists. No communist party in the world claims that communism has existed However, the people who have lived under governments guided by communist and capitalist ideology tend to prefer communism by and large
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 12:47 AM
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So, you punish the masses because of the mistakes of some few people? How do you budget yourself into paying $1000 in rent when you make minimum wage? Or simply have no job?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:48 PM
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My solution is communism (yes, I know) Scarcity will forever be an issue. I just don't believe that that justifies letting someone be homeless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 10:47 PM
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What year was it that you were making 7.25? Where were you living? People are willing to kill for $35 an hour, your situation is not representative. Hell, people are willing to kill to get a job at all You can't simultaneously see that the system doesn't play a role and it is due to the mindset, but also claim that the wealth inequality is a problem to be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:33 PM
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You're pointing out modern society which promotes the idea of a tournament species People behave like this because the systems we have in place promoted this idea. This hasn't been always the case, and there are still societies in which it isn't These ideas have their origin in French and British aristocracy which benefited from such ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:31 PM
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Idk what you mean by numbers, but my solution doesn't matter. What matters is pointing out the fact that you can't pay your bills when you don't have money?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 09:29 PM
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We don't spend our life doing sports If we pretend that we are not a tournament species in both action and rhetoric, we are effectively not a tournament species
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 01:22 PM
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We are not a tournament species We were taking care of our own since before we became Homo sapiens.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 12:33 PM
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Ah yes, people lived better lives when children were getting eaten up by machines in factories and the adults breathed more spot than oxygen. Sex goes down as regulation decreases, and say what you will about the USSR, but people had healthier sex lives
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 12:32 PM
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Of course. Why did the poor never think to pay their bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 12:30 PM
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Most "pacifists" irl only oppose violence coming from one side She cheated. That's bad, but I won't do anything about it He retaliated. I will oppose him and shane him
/r/PussyPassDenied28/10/20 03:12 PM
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He was lmao
/r/PussyPass24/10/20 12:34 AM
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From what I saw on Twitter she's an anti-masker and didn't like him because he looked Chinese
/r/PussyPass24/10/20 12:34 AM
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If I had a choice, I would be asexual. Better yet, I would be a woman. I hate the fact that I am constantly expected to give and provide and stigmatized for expecting something in return I also get vein-popping mad when I see women online getting paid hundreds of dollars and getting free shit just by existing and having their venmo/cashapp on their twitter handle
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 10:41 AM
1

How do you fit a public will react to minority women gave up on a white woman? More importantly, how do you think the cops will react?
/r/PussyPass23/09/20 08:28 AM
7

They can sell feet pics and live better than most people ever dream of
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 03:43 PM
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Or a countries hegemony in action pass
/r/PussyPass16/08/20 08:15 PM
24

Because even people who are against her actions in principle don't have the emotional response to follow through with anything
/r/MensRights14/08/20 01:47 PM
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I agree with both your points However, my original point was rather to show the policies by one (powerful) wing of the feminist movement doesn't define the entire movement, and painting it as such only empowers the wing that we oppose more strongly
/r/MensRights06/08/20 10:13 AM
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The definition of rape being penetration, is one policy that I can think of Feminism is supposed to be an ideology of gender equality through the empowerment of women. This can be, but is not necessarily anti-thetical to men's rights
/r/MensRights05/08/20 08:55 AM
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I agree with you, but I have two points of contention which is the generalization. Feminist movements have potential allies, and the generalization just pits us against each other because of assumptions that are made. ​ Second, safe spaces exist whether we like them or not, but the term safe space just caught on in conservative circles because it was the term used by colleges ​ Just out of curiosity, how far left are we talking?
/r/MensRights04/08/20 11:12 PM
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I explained in another comment
/r/MensRights04/08/20 11:05 PM
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The policies that we ascribe to "feminists" is often the policies pushed by neoliberal, class-blind, racist and often outright supremacist organizations. In the current political climate (the West after WWII), that is the only kind of political organization with sway. however, that doesn't mean that is all feminism can be ​ In the same way, most "successful" MRA movements are conservative, which force MRAs to play the "not all MRAs" card when conservative policies are pushed. For example, aborti…
/r/MensRights04/08/20 11:05 PM
0

Exactly
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:58 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/i3peyw/half_of_generation_z_men_think_feminism_has_gone/g0dukow
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:35 PM
-1

Let's clear it up. Does being an MRA require one to be conservative, capitalist, and/or racist?
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:34 PM
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That's an impossible task, and you know it. The measurement of equality is entirely subjective unless everybody lives as exactly the same person and has the exact same life It's subjective, just like the idea of men"s leagues and women's leagues in sports. Is it discriminatory or equal? There is no right answer
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:32 PM
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Treating people equally isn't discrimination, but that doesn't mean that people can always tell the difference It's not on me, because I'm not a feminist, but it is still stupid to conflate the objectives of an ideology with the methodologies of organizations Feminists come in different forms, and they often disagree. And not all feminist organizations are neo-liberal "girl power" type feminists
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:27 PM
1

So, the men's rights movement requires support for Elon Musk reopening his factories, since self-proclaimed MRAs support him?
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:23 PM
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Your conflating ideologies with organizations. That's like saying that the men's rights movement is responsible for the pandemic response because the Republican party claims to support men's rights Plus, TERFs are a subsection of feminism, and saying feminism (as though it is a sentient being) is excluding trans people is misleading at best
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:21 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/i3peyw/half_of_generation_z_men_think_feminism_has_gone/g0drin4
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:16 PM
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Come on, dude. People in the 60s and 70s absolutely claimed that policies helping black people would hurt white people. (For example: removing housing discrimination would tank property values) Not saying that that's what's happening here, but they did make those claims and were partially right
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:15 PM
-5

Then democracy sucks because we got the Democrats out of it, and republics suck because they gave us North Korea
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:13 PM
-1

That's how we take it, but it could mean a lot of different things to different people
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:09 PM
-6

Is there no difference between an ideology and organizations?
/r/MensRights04/08/20 10:08 PM
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I think "too far" is a stupid metric as that implies there is too much equality, when it is better to say whether or not it is adequately dealing with issues
/r/MensRights04/08/20 08:50 PM
1

It's a systemic issue, and not an individual one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 10:51 AM
1

No, because that's not what I consider to be juggling
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 10:09 AM
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Disregarding people's feelings and using them is sociopathic When monogamy is expected, and the juggling is hidden it hurts people, no matter how long it has been going on for
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:29 PM
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Fucking autocorrect My comment about the sociopathy is that we celebrate the lack of empathy, and congratulate people who actively hurt others while shaming those who are hurt by empathizing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:27 PM
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Because being juggled hurts our feelings Is the celebration of sociopathy a new thing, or have we always been like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:57 AM
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It's a prisoner's dilemma Both people lose if both do it, and it would be best if neither side did it But, if I am the only person who doesn't do it, I lose a lot more, and if I'm doing it while the other doesn't I stand to gain a lot Since there are no restrictions and no consequences on who juggles partners, then the logical thing to do is to juggle partners
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:52 AM
2

You can show just a yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:12 PM
1

TRP is telling you how to negotiate for a better salary from your asshole boss FDS is telling you how to get your minimum wage worker to work for unpaid overtime
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:54 PM
1

Is what separates thewanted and unwanted advances the attractiveness of the person or the circumstance/type of approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:02 PM
1

Just did. Not one example
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 09:01 PM
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The hypocrisy and saying that the problem is with the approach and not with the attractiveness of the person, yet all the approaches that they say they despise work when the person is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:35 AM
5

The reality of the power dynamics is that they can have it both ways, and they know it.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/20 08:30 AM
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Feminist: sees a room packed with women who share exactly the same view Also feminist: "It's just the loud ones!"
/r/PussyPassDenied16/05/20 08:22 AM
1

How did you get in one without trying to impress a person of the opposite sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:31 PM
1

Great, so there are two. Not exactly common
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:02 PM
1

Is it fair for unattractive women to complain about having to do stuff to attract men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:02 PM
1

Have you ever been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:59 PM
1

46k subscribers, shouldn't be hard to find 10
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:39 PM
1

It's how they feel though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:38 PM
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Oh no, the people who had actual slaves, could travel to exotic locations, owned plantations, never had to work a day in their lives, could end men's lives simply by accusing them of looking at them wrong couldn't vote boohoo
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:25 AM
2

Do you think you can find 10 examples in 24 hours?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 06:24 AM
1

How common do you think that idea is in these subreddits?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:46 AM
1

So, if I threaten the lives of your lived ones unless I get to jizz in your ass and on your face it isn't rape. Good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:45 AM
2

If by "you" you mean Chad's, then sure
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:44 AM
1

You're complaining that you don't like the feelings men have to express. Do you believe that men should express their feelings or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 02:44 AM
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Physical rape isn't the only kind of rape. That's like saying that if I drugged you and jizzed in your ass, it's not really a traumatic experience because I didn't wrestle you into it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:29 PM
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Exactly, it's extraordinarily rare. Why would a man want to use force if it isn't needed?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:28 PM
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Ugly women still get to have sex and continue to breed ugly people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:28 PM
3

Adolf Hitler was elected to the UKs parliament?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:26 PM
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Society, as vague as that sounds. There are exceptions, but I'm sure they wouldn't break 10% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:26 PM
1

What does this have to do with whether they express their feelings or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 04:25 PM
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It always has been. Feminism has not started by women who were put down by the system. It was started by Rich white women who wanted the same leader positions as their rich white daddies. They worked together to make sure that black people didn't get to vote, and actively delayed the woman's right to vote because it would have made it easier for black people to get the right to vote
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:42 PM
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They tended to kill themselves out of site, so you wouldn't have to deal with it, and could continue to believe in your just world fallacy which frees you of any responsibility to make the world a better place
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:36 PM
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If that person does not do anything to attract the average woman, is it his fault if he dies alone? If the genders were reversed, does the woman get any sympathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:30 PM
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The fact that you surrounded by men who she complained about being dangerous come on but with no Chad in sight would make her lose her mind
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:22 PM
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Males can't understand how it is to be sexually harassed by older dudes when you're just 14 years old. First, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Second, most men don't know what it's like to be harassed at the age of 14 because women hitting on young boys isn't seen as dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:21 PM
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Fuck are you talking about? Most by rapists are powerful men (and women) who know they can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:16 PM
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What made you make that decision? What ended up happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:08 PM
2

Do men who are in the same situation is you get to make the same demands?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:07 PM
1

Why aren't you a femcel?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:06 PM
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Impress, seduce, attract, please, entice. Don't get stuck on semantics, you know what I mean
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:05 PM
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I'm trying to turn the tables around. If men have to work hard to earn the favour of the average woman, and men and women are equal, should women be working to earn the favour of the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 03:04 PM
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Pretending you don't want to die all the time because you are tired of constantly having to prove that you have worth
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:35 AM
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This is the feminist version of "we must ban Muslims, remember 9/11?" Edit: I just read the part about the Islamic extremism, which proves that the other has no idea what they're talking about. Islamic extremism is also one of those things that is hugely overhyped in the mainstream Media. It's because no one in society (especially women) wants to admit that the most dangerous man is the white Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:25 AM
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If Chad, then be hotter than the competition, keep him away from the competition subtly, but relentlessly, and make sure his balls are empty If not Chad, you're good to go. can keep it as long as you want; he has nowhere else to go and he knows it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:24 AM
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It's called training them like human beings, sweaty
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:20 AM
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Women can't tell the difference between entitlement and need because they never had to struggle for what they need
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:14 AM
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My problem with r/mgtow is that it is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem. It's like trying to end Nestle by not buying their products. It's better than nothing, but there are plenty of idiots and desperate people to replace you that they won't even notice
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:11 AM
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Things to make him attracted to you, and things that please him
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:08 AM
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I think those courts or kangaroo courts, but that doesn't change the fact that the statement is an opinion You can have a million good reasons to the Star wars prequels, but that doesn't mean that them being bad is a fact
/r/MensRights11/05/20 08:07 AM
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Still a shitty incoherent ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:06 AM
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Worstpersonyouknow.jpg
/r/MensRights08/05/20 04:44 AM
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That phrase includes an opinion
/r/MensRights08/05/20 04:43 AM
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Good point, most men have varied taste
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:18 AM
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"Officer, I never said I'd burn this orphanage to the ground. I just said it would be a shame if something happened to it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:14 AM
1

Is that why the US sucked at the space race for so long?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:13 AM
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The top 1% of taxpayers have paid a great deal in taxes, I agree. However, the richest people are not necessarily the top 1% of taxpayers. I'd like to see a source on your second point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:12 AM
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Neoliberalism is an ideology that is more focused on capitalism and has very little to do with the things you mentioned. In fact, the things you mentioned are arguably very much anti neoliberalism because neoliberalism believes you have no obligation to care about others
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:10 AM
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I think that we were born capable of evaluating many things, including shallow things, about our mates. However, we also have begun teaching people that they only have to fend for themselves and look for immediate gratification. So, the sense of fulfillment we get from helping others and valuing character has been numbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:09 AM
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We are the first generation to be dying earlier than our parents, we have less free time then the average medieval peasant, we now have to pay money to rent a living space, etc. We've replaced the pastor with the billionaire, who we have told that they owe nothing to us. At least the pastor have to keep you fed and couldn't take her house from you if he expected your loyalty
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:07 AM
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I think this whole thing is based on an assumption that people naturally only one to fend for themselves. I say, if they did then this society would collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:05 AM
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Sorry, I thought you were making fun of me. Too much aggression in this comment section
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:04 AM
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Do you think that the current people in charge of it call Mom who we put in charge because they also believe that they have no obligation to anybody except themselves is working?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:04 AM
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The ability to prevent aggression depends entirely your relative strength to other people. Persuasion only works if you offer somebody something in return, which still means that you are giving something up in order to prevent harm to yourself, and would reward aggressive behavior, where the most aggressive of us and the most powerful of us would be ruling, not those that offer the best services or the greatest benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:03 AM
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We choose to make the elites elites. They aren't genetically better than us or anything. We simply decided that they own things, and therefore they should rule us, which is cyclical. The way we decide if things are good or bad is based in morality otherwise having people drill screws under your nails would be neither good nor evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 12:01 AM
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Wait, but if you believe that everybody should only fend for themselves, then aren't you helping them by giving them that advice? Why not save the effort why share that his wife's with other people? Wouldn't fending for yourself be to trick them into believing that they shouldn't and should prioritize other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:55 PM
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1-Why is the cut off their? 2-Doesn't that justify policy that benefits A certain race without regard to other races? After all, most people's friends and family are of the same race
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:54 PM
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From what I've heard the bill is given to the patient when they leave the hospital, not many treatments require up-front payment. That's in the US, where the law requires emergency treatment be given before asking for payment. This is not a neoliberal society allowed to run amok No idea what you said there. his* pricing. basically, if the doctor says the treatment is worth $1,000, and I don't think it's fair what then? If he says it's worth a billion dollars, what then? What guarantees that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:53 PM
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It's not about them thinking they're too good for the average woman, it's complaining about how women who are average think that they are old things by men before they can go into a relationship but not vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:48 PM
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I don't know how you expect me to post conversations I've had in person. I also know better than to take people at their word because people typically aren't honest with themselves let alone others
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:47 PM
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Something that is expected of you, and may be punished for not fulfilling
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:47 PM
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It's not binary, but the Chad-ier he is, the more he is allowed to talk about feelings without shame
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:45 PM
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Is that why the US is doing better than Cuba right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:44 PM
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>suck dick like a hobby >perfect Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:44 PM
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Humor is dead in this post irony world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:42 PM
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I'm still convinced that because we believe nobody has the obligation to help another person, every single comment section is going to become a race to the bottom of who cares less
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:59 PM
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If you think that's because people are giving a lot of money at the means they earned it, you're either delusional or you haven't spent enough rich people yet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:58 PM
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In a society where everybody is looking out for themselves, why would the doctor not to charge me up front? Why would I respect as pricing afterwards? Why would insurance try to cover me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:57 PM
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Is it that the capitalist excuse about why people have to die under a capitalist system? or is it because you're so cynical you can't believe that the world gets any better than allowing people to starve to death despite the availability of resources
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:55 PM
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If a society believed that people have obligations to others, the sociopaths would not be able to rise to the top unless they serve the community. Why would the likes of Bezos be rich if we punish them for not caring for their employees?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:54 PM
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Copying this answer from a different comment I hate it when people pretend that their projection of the world is what's real and accuse me of not meeting many people. I have friends from four different continents (five if you consider the ME to be separate culturally), who speak a collective 8 different languages, they range from religious fundamentalists, dieharrd capitalist, proud communists, to gamers. Not a single fucking exception. Do not try to use your "broad life experience" as a way to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:53 PM
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Attractive, tall, and I'm assuming his problems are external and have little to do with insecurities
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:51 PM
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I know we're supposed to hate women, but I think that a healthy community does have people supporting others as a moral duty first, and a legal duty second.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:47 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/geg6qu/telling_men_to_talk_about_their_feelings_is_like/fpnaf0h I'm assuming your husband is a Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:45 PM
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I'm very familiar with the incel community, if you actually talk to them, most of them already hate themselves and think they're not worth much. They don't really have high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:44 PM
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Unironically, I want to use this opportunity to show people that most of their problems comes from a lack of community. I'm not accepting your jokes because even jokes become accepted ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:43 PM
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Who said we have to kill Innocents? I just wanted to say that we have an obligation to help people
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:42 PM
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I understand the difference. I'm saying that's if nobody has the obligation to protect people's lives, then nobody's life is really protected by the right to live
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:41 PM
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Ugh, tell me about it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:56 PM
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See, that still depends on people believing that they have an obligation to maintain positive rights. Unless, you're talking about everybody finding for themselves, in which case, that just means that the more powerful person can get away with whatever they want and the weak will not stand in the way. This is especially true if the powerful starts justifying their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:55 PM
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You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. You can't change society without removing its current form.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:53 PM
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First of all, I'm not one of the unattractive men that I'm talking about. Unfortunately, we live in a society where people are cynical towards people's motives and can't believe that anybody would try to make anybody else's life better. Honestly, this is the worst part of this thread. Not a single person believe that anybody is ever genuine, which makes them react ungenuinely in turn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:52 PM
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You didnt have the obligation to make this post. I'm not the neoliberal, I have an obligation to work society just as much as society has an obligation towards me Yet you had the wealth to enable you to. https://mobile.twitter.com/superlancerboy/status/1182102151394291713/photo/1 Truly sad times. I wish i were back in times where i die from bad teeth. Technologies not synonymous with capitalism. I would say capitalism stops technological progress. The USSR had all the major milestones in space e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:49 PM
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Why would anybody respect negative rights if there are no mechanisms to stop them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 12:43 PM
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I'm saying that the lack of a positive right is impractical. The lack of a positive right makes negative rights useless. It is unsustainable at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:49 AM
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Aw, we're just making shit up now? I'm sad that you can't cope with reality. we could offer you health Care under communism, but you clearly prefer being a cuck to men who control more money than you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:48 AM
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Oh, I get it. You're the kind of idiot who thinks that projecting strength makes up for the fact that they never earned a thing a thing in their life. You'll never be happy, and money can't buy that. Pretend to be smug and aloof.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:40 AM
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I'm talking about the other people choosing to protect you, son. I thought libertarians were supposed to be smart, but they can't imagine more than one gun existing in the world and think they have that one gun
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:37 AM
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What is with you people and ad hominem? Same people who think I advocate for social welfare because I'm poor. The problem is that every time I reject the assumption, you fall back into your shelter of "you're only mad because you lost the game."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:35 AM
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It never happens with people they're committed to at the time. It happens with people they're dating to get to by, it happens with one night stands, that is happens to exes. There's too much taboo to make fun of people they're dating in the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:32 AM
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Why do I get the feeling that you also talked about how violent antifa is that they need to be stopped from taking away your tendies? Unless you make more than 200k a year, you're practically a cuck and I think that's having a stronger man cuckold you makes you less of a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:31 AM
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Capitalists are too greedy to spend the bullet protecting each other. That's why they depend on socialism from the poor. That's why they have to preach to the poor that they have an obligation to fulfill their duties, but simultaneously preach that they have no obligation to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:29 AM
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Why should others join you when it simply puts them at risk, or, at the very least, it's extra effort, which they do not owe you? You're assuming that you're the powerful one in this dynamic. What if I have the jump on you? What if I have sluperior firepower? What if you were dumb enough to trust me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:27 AM
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They don't discuss who they're too good for, but laugh at the people they had to settle for
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:25 AM
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This is what we call projection. Plus, you pretend that not everybody is living the same way already, whether they're neoliberal or not because we both live in a neoliberal society
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:16 AM
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If nobody has the obligation to stop me from shooting you and looting your corpse, what value do the right to life and the right to property have?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:15 AM
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What makes you think that the guy coming for you doesn't have a bullet of his own? Why shouldn't we let him shoot you and take your stuff? Hell, we can even split the stuff if we help each other out then shoot the other person because we're not responsible for them either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:58 AM
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Women are plenty insecure, but they still feel insulted by the idea of settling. I hate it when people pretend that their projection of the world is what's real and accuse me of not meeting many people. I have friends from four different continents (five if you consider the ME to be separate culturally), who speak a collective 8 different languages, they range from religious fundamentalists, dieharrd capitalist, proud communists, to gamers. Not a single fucking exception. Do not try to use your …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:47 AM
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Ending up with attractive women doesn't mean they feel entitled to attractive women. That doesn't mean they will resent the unattractive women. That doesn't mean they will make fun of how "mediocre" the women are with their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:34 AM
7

Visual and shallow does not mean that they think they deserve better than average. They don't pretend that the world has treated them unfairly if they end up with an average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:16 AM
2

Sorry, I don't believe that your attraction to a man is not going to decline after finding out that he got shoved in the street bye a man twice his size and finding out that he can't do anything except to be humiliated
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:15 AM
1

Ugly women will still get to breed though. That's a Band-Aid solution
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:12 AM
-1

I'm not talking about sex. I'm talking about long-term relationships. To men, average women have their value. Two women, an average man is basically prison food. They might swallow it, they will make it very clear that they believe they deserve better and that they would be fine without those men existing. Only men have the ability to look themselves in the mirror and say that they are average and therefore deserve average
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:07 AM
6

You're imagining Chad thundercock talking about how he lost a patient in his six-figure doctor job. You aren't imagining Pajeet talking about how he feels worthless when he gets rejected because of his height and funny accent. You aren't imagining Howard crying late at night because a guy twice his size shoved him on the street and there was nothing he could do. It may be sweet, but it's not sexy and most people want to pretend these problems don't exist, so they will hate you for bringing them …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:04 AM
2

It's mostly the lies, but the gas lighting, and the demeaning plays a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:57 AM
1

People will still generally make fun of people who can't get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:26 AM
1

They do, we just don't blame it on women and FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:27 AM
1

Men should talk about their emotions and open up about their insecurities, but not like that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 08:12 AM
1

Class interests
/r/PussyPassDenied07/04/20 04:12 PM
3

You know how some people practice a sport for years, but somebody who trained for less than a year does better? Like that, but for pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:28 PM
1

Could it be because you have to try and get laid, where as it comes naturally for others?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:03 PM
1

There are plenty of people who have moms and are depressed, so you shouldn't be depressed because your mom died.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 04:02 PM
1

!RemindMe 7 days
/r/MensRights23/02/20 06:27 PM
0

Guess how much good it does to blame yourself for something you have no control over
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 05:36 AM
5

You can criticize your friends, it's allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 06:08 AM
2

The amount of attention, validation, and social standing in the world is limited. Since the price is "paid" by looking attractive, and more people want more of the limited supply, they put in more effort into creating more attractiveness. However, as more people do the same and the level of attractiveness rises, you end up with attractiveness inflation. So, more extremes need to be reached in order to have access to the same supply with the resources that are available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 12:40 AM
0

I don't know what to tell you, I'm agreeing with you here. I'm just saying it's a natural reaction to that situation. Buyer's remorse and all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 04:14 AM
2

I agree in principle, but I do sympathize with people who feel like they got a bad deal. I think of it like when somebody buys a sports car, and then realizes it cost too much, guzzles gas, and isn't very practical. It's not that they were lied to, but they did fall for a salesperson repeatedly telling them how cool the fast car is. Then again, we don't blame the sales person, and we're rarely call it manipulation. Everybody selling something, and unless you want to live in a world where there i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:58 AM
1

It feels like they're falling for bad sales pitches, and then feel bad later. I can't say I know everyone's story, but it feels like there is a pattern of people using that term to mean they fell for bad or false advertising. Unfortunately, unless we want to have to submit resumes before dating, and make lying on their resumes illegal, I don't see what the solution is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 03:42 AM
1

I honestly think that if there is an official accusation, the accuser shouldn't be known because it could lead to the harassment or other forms of pressure that would lead to people not willing to report crimes. That being said, I don't think the accused should be made public either
/r/MensRights07/02/20 06:49 PM
10

I agree generally, but if the court fails so terribly people will lose faith. And the power courts have is entirely dependant on that faith. There is a difference between "I think he should have gotten 5 years, not 10," and "this man is being hanged for smoking crack."
/r/PussyPass03/02/20 06:07 PM
4

Can't blame him
/r/PussyPassDenied02/02/20 06:13 PM
1

I meant to argue that women have it better than men. Do you disagree that having nothing is worse than only having something but not everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:20 PM
1

It's better than nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 03:02 PM
2

There's a reason r/chadfishing got banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:29 PM
2

The problem with women's (and normie) advice is that it doesn't work. It gives men ideas to make women's lives better, but men will not get what they want in return. It's the equivalent of telling people who can't move their legs to work unpaid overtime until they can move their legs. It might be great for other people, but not for them. The best advice they should receive is that they will their never move their legs, and they should stop trying. They should look out for themselves first, and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:13 PM
3

It's the equivalent of rich people saying "just go on vacation, bro."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 02:00 PM
1

You are purposefully assuming that other people have the same experience and avoiding confronting the fact that you have been given things you did not earn. You'd rather believe that you earned what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:59 PM
1

Are you taller than 6'? Are you white? Are you fat? Most men are under 6', many of them are not white, and fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:56 PM
1

The goalposts shifted a while back. Now, it's "meaningless sex is easy, but not good enough."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 01:53 PM
0

When Everyman is putting effort, the men who are below 6', ugly, ethnic, and poor will still lose out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 07:34 PM
2

Think of the implications of what you're saying. You will end up with a world where only 20% of women are viable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:46 PM
5

Either you are attractive or it is a rule you have before. Statistically speaking, if a man and woman were both free to approach whoever, the women would have much better luck than the man, who would have no luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 04:10 PM
1

There's your explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 06:49 PM
0

Are you white?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 03:05 PM
1

Should we call ourselves male-oriented feminists?
/r/MensRights04/12/19 06:07 PM
1

You can't help people by telling them to just fix their issues. it's kind of like me accusing you of being negative because you don't simply stop having OCD.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 12:49 AM
2

Bearfield was at the hospital with her two children, their father, a social worker, and two police officers in November 2017, following a report of a 'non-accidental' injury to the older child, the court was told.
/r/PussyPass04/12/19 12:48 AM
2

Why don't you apply the same logic to yourself that you do for people with other genetic disadvantages? Why should we assume that men's struggles are due to the lack of effort, and even if it was unfair, they have no right to complain, and should only work harder to fix the issue? Why shouldn't I tell you the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 06:58 AM
2

For those people, we admitwe have created makes it harder for them. however, our solution is not to tell them to stop itching, or solution is to look for solutions to change society to give people equal opportunities. Yet, when that group is men, the onus is on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 06:57 AM
3

The kid was hospitalized. Also, anyone I don't like is an incel. The officer injured was a woman, do you not respect her rights or are you okay with violence against women, incel?
/r/PussyPass03/12/19 06:56 AM
1

Nope. I just switched attractiveness for race. Race is applicable since attractiveness also varies by race.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 06:52 AM
4

See all the vases you are making for this woman's sake? Make them for a man
/r/PussyPass02/12/19 06:09 PM
1

I would have treated this black man exactly as I would a white man. I will only believe that implicit bias exist if I believe that I am actively making these decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 06:04 PM
5

Tell that to black people. Tell that to feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:39 PM
3

OCD is not a disadvantage. Just stop obsessing compulsively about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:58 PM
1

For the ugly guys in this thread: There are no ugly guys Hmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:57 PM
1

Other than the stats, the words coming out of their mouths, my personal experience also confirms this. I was rejected because a femcel thought I was black
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:28 PM
2

It's like telling somebody who can't get good food to just stop eating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:24 PM
2

Chad is an incel because he doesn't respect the women he's sleeping with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 06:22 PM
1

I don't have a solution, but I know the solution starts with caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:39 PM
1

The scale is different, but the principle is the same. Why should anybody care for anybody?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:20 AM
1

"Why should I care for the n****?" -White people in the 60's "Why should I care for the Jew?" -The German in the 1930's "Why should I care for the Greeks?" -The Spartan, when Persia was invading
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:54 PM
16

That doesn't explain why not as many women are being affected.
/r/BlackPillScience09/11/19 08:59 PM
3

you saying that you don't think women are wonderful is the same as when people say that they don't associate ignorance with being black. it's a bias that has been proven to be true in the fast majority of the population, including those that don't admit it to themselves.
/r/MensRights07/11/19 05:03 PM
1

That doesn't guarantee that they'll be at the same level as you, it means you'll be dealing with extra competition, and, most importantly, don't shit where you eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 07:31 PM
1

I am a part of the queer community and I don't know any that think that you aren't born gay, I knew I like women since I was 9 it's what I was attracted too. And I know people who knew younger, lots of which came from homes in which it wasn't talked about so yeah I believe a 100% they were born like that. Welp, that isn't my experience. Then again, I am surrounded by Philosophy and Sociology majors. We routinely come to the conclusion that nobody is born with a certain psychology. It's similar t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 06:23 AM
1

That's fair, but I think across statistically unlikely. Hard to find that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 06:00 AM
1

You are born gay. So gay people are wrong for saying that that isn't true? There are no environmental factors that shape people's attraction? And some men fuck guys for money, but people aren't going to change their sexuality because of a lack of "good" men. They don't choose to, but it can lead to the change. E.g. plenty of guys aren't gay, but they can get it up in prison. Does their desire to have sex with men make them not gay? Being able to sleep with someone and your sexuality actually cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:25 AM
1

If you can't marry up, don't marry at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:18 AM
1

Not all social experiences are trauma. If you are born gay, why do you think that the gay community also denies the idea of a "gay gene"? I'm not talking about choice, I'm talking about environmental influences. 99% of the "straight" women I know still have no issue with sleeping with women, yet they are straight. There are also several studies that back this up. Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 10:48 PM
4

By that logic, you can say that police shootings are a white people's issue. This would excuse the "all lives matter" movement, and makes it's just as legitimate as the black lives matter movement.
/r/PussyPass05/11/19 08:40 PM
1

Not completely around then, but to think that the environment does not shape people's sexuality is reductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:39 PM
3

I think most men are already unfuckable. "Collapse" is subjective here. I see the rise of right-wing populism as part of that collapsed, but also as proof that it's won't be complete anarchy. It sucks, but unfortunately it's also livable. People get used to any change if it happens gradually enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:38 PM
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Social and perhaps legal reform. I can't say I have the perfect solution, but I think I have a direction. 1-Start counteracting the shaming men face for not being fuckable. (Short, ugly, ethnic, etc.) 2-Encourage men to stop being so thirsty. 3-Make cheating in a marriage illegal, or at least make it weak in their divorce case. 4-Teach men about the realities of the dating market, rather than hiding it behind blue pill platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:37 PM
2

You can't make her do anything with her career. Also, you shouldn't marry a woman who makes a penny less than you. Marry up, fuck down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:13 PM
2

You're right. We should change this, but we can't trust the blue pill or feminism to change it. They seem focused on reducing the damage to women and not on reducing damage in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:11 PM
0

That's why people are trying to actively change it. You can't solve a problem if you don't see a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 08:10 PM
2

I would say the rise in right wing populism and terrorism is us reacting to that shift in equilibrium. It's not going to cause a collapse, but it is changing it greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:51 PM
-1

That's a very reductive way to look at sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 07:50 PM
5

If women are less affected than men, then by definition it's not a women's issue. It's a men's issue, and even that is spun as a women's issue.
/r/PussyPass05/11/19 03:49 PM
1

I understand that, but the issue is when they transform an issue that affect both sexes, and effects men more than it does women, but is spun as something that should be fixed for women only.
/r/PussyPass05/11/19 03:46 PM
0

I appreciate the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:00 PM
1

And? How credible is that threat? It proved lls that she had a choice between having a very good career and no career at all. Considering it was Harvey fucking Weinstein, I would say that's credible as as credible as can be. No. He chose to have a clean conscience and make smaller amounts of money instead of sucking proverbial dick for the big role in the big production. How did you fail to see that? Then your example doesn't work. your father had a choice between decent money and a lot of money…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:36 AM
0

Things are bad. We can fix them. Imagine this scenario: I will cut your fingers off, unless you smuggle drugs. Once you're done smuggling drugs, I will offer you a million dollars. What do you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:29 AM
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If my career paid what theirs do and it was Harvina Weinstein, then hell ya I would do that. Actually even to double my much more modest pay I would do that. I might even do it for a new car. Sex isn’t a huge deal. It doesn’t break you or taint you. They are forced between choosing millions and being broke. You're ignoring the other part. You being a slut doesn't make coercing okay. If sex isn't a big deal, then why is rape a problem? And I get it. They worked hard. But nobody works 1,000 times …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:20 AM
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Even if you worked to get rich and famous? Even if your career was on the line? Also, don't forget that not everybody who was pressured into it got a career. You just can't get the fair shake unless you do it. You can coerce people with more than just a threat of death. Put yourself in that situation, but switch careers with yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 09:10 PM
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Good actors/actresses don’t need to suck dick for roles unless you want to argue that literally everybody operates like that. Not everyone, but it's more common than you think. Weinstein didn't cultivate a reputation for doing it once. There is audio of him saying that he will end her career unless she performs sexual favors for him. The world isn't a meritocracy. Even though this is based on the false premise of “you will never work in this city if you don’t suck my dick”, I can always choose n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 09:09 PM
0

Salma Hayek’s career would have ended if she didn’t give in to Weinstein by the time she did the movie about Frida Khalo? Are you high??? Plenty of better careers have ended. More abruptly. And even in cases where it is a first role... all you have to do is say no. And lose everything that you built up for yourself. Realize that your dream that brought you to California wasn't going to happen, and be okay with working at Subway for the rest of your life even though you know you're a great actor.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 07:29 PM
1

http://www.longdom.org/open-access/the-prevalence-of-false-allegations-of-rape-in-the-united-states-from-20062010-2475-319X-1000119.pdf There are plenty of other studies
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 07:21 PM
1

Accusations of rape are 5 times as likely to be false than any other crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 03:39 PM
3

I have to disagree. It was mafia move. If she slept with him, she got a movie. If she didn't, her career would have ended. It's kind of like saying that people were willingly smuggling drugs because they got paid for it while forgetting that saying no could mean their deaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 03:26 PM
5

That would be fair if women weren't selective with who had to wait. That's why it's third date or bust.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 09:27 PM
5

It's legalese. Prostitution is illegal. Escort services are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 09:35 PM
-5

Do you mean you disagree, or don't understand what I'm saying?
/r/BlackPillScience25/10/19 08:58 PM
1

!Remind me 1 day
/r/PussyPass25/10/19 08:47 PM
-3

Bad partners don't have to be abusive. Again, I think it mostly has to do with Chad/normie-girl than men vs. women. Does that make sense?
/r/BlackPillScience25/10/19 08:46 PM
1

Have...have you seen this sub? Have you met women irl? Women aren't innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:35 PM
-11

To be fair, it might mean that men are worse to their partners than women. However, I think that's also a problem of women chasing the top 20% of men.
/r/BlackPillScience25/10/19 07:54 PM
0

You think the reason that women insult men by attacking their ability to get laid is men's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 07:50 PM
1

I'm simply stating what is made fun of, not who. The ability of men to get sex is very relevant to their perceived worth
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 03:48 AM
4

Disagreement here is proof. It's only a matter of time before a man gets insulted that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 03:50 PM
2

I'm improving myself, and I think most guys are. There's only so much they can do though. Especially when all the other guys are also improving themselves, so they can't stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:15 AM
1

Actually, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:45 PM
4

She said she wanted love and connection. She said she hated bad casual sex. She never said that she didn't want it ever. She never said she would not care for not having the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:45 PM
0

You could say the same about women then. They were born the way they were and there’s nothing they can do if their feelings aren’t reciprocated. Women have choice. They can choose who to sleep with. that situation must suck, but it doesn't suck as not having the choice in the first place. It's better to have a blind taste buffet than no food at all. People used to say that all the time to black models. They still do. At least the female ones so they made their own way. Other black women supporte…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:40 PM
1

So why are we judging the message based on the messenger? for every ideology you can think of, I can think of someone who is a bad representative. In that sense, there are no valid ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:35 PM
1

Did you not hear about where most of them were lost? Do you know what a museum is?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:34 PM
1

If I recall, your entire culture was almost wiped away by rats. In that sense, white people have never created a civilization. The only truly sophisticated people that are not savages are the Chinese.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:33 PM
1

If you have a hobby, it still is easier to feel better sexless than if you don't. And patience helps to get laid. It's about opportunity cost. The time you spend on your hobby as opposed to getting laid is better than doing nothing, but worse than spending time trying to get laid. I agree. But as I said, there are hobbies that can help you in getting laid. With the exception of the gym or travel (which most can't afford), they won't help you get laid more than just trying to get laid. But once y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:32 PM
0

May be funny to you but it sucks it you never get off and your feelings aren’t reciprocated. Yes, and the same applies for men. Men don't even get the attention or the hope. All in all though it’s the responsibility of the person who put themselves in that position to get themselves out. Men don't put themselves in that position. They are in that position because of the way they were born. Imagine saying that black models need to make themselves more attractive if they want to be as desired as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:28 PM
6

We are talking about women in general. That includes her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:26 PM
0

That sounds miserable. I bet no guy would want to have sex with someone just because they like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:01 PM
10

Why would they want something they described as bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:00 PM
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Most guys wouldn't mind being a McChicken to women. It's better than the attention they're receiving currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 07:47 PM
1

I mean, if you like it, you probably won't notice that. After all, I could say sex also is a hobby. You'd notice it if you're spending time on the hobbies rather than getting laid. Sex is a hobby, which is why you need to spend more time I'm getting sex then other hobbies. Opportunity cost. The real currency that matters is happiness. Sex makes guys much happier than most hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:42 PM
1

This debate exists to find what makes attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:40 PM
1

And hypocrisy doesn't negate the message. A heroin addict could tell you not to do heroin, doesn't make his advice any worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:40 PM
1

Yes, it is. Not everything you offer is action, not everything you can offer is changeable. That's the part that I disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:39 PM
2

If you believe what you said, you wouldn't be so dismissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:38 PM
0

This is a research paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:37 PM
1

They wrote it. They just lost a lot of it, either from colonist, or nature. Think of the dark ages. There work cultures, we just don't have a lot of artifacts from that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:37 PM
2

Every person thinks their average, because that's what they're used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:36 PM
3

Can you give an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:38 PM
1

Some other guy took them the other nights. Not an average one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:36 PM
1

Correlation does not equal causation. You’re talking about a correlation of roughly 0.4, which means there’s 60% variance not accounted for. Correlation is not causation, but I expect things that are correlated to go together. Where did you get those numbers from? He’s neither. Working class family, average looking dude and a little chubby to boot. He’s remarkably funny and smart, and that’s where is charm comes from I have to assume that he's the exception, or you're missing something. That's h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:27 AM
1

That's how history works. That's how colonisation works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:25 AM
0

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/7-influential-african-empires First result
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:25 AM
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Here are better sources. I shouldn't have picked the first Google result. https://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/ http://www.newsweek.com/study-finds-men-nice-women-not-other-way-around-261269 http://archive.is/e6p19 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12147-015-9142-5 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21051521 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamafacialplasticsurgery/article-abstract/2737367
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:23 AM
1

Bad sign =\= invalid message
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:05 AM
1

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/12/171214140807.htm One of many
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:04 AM
1

She could give away everything she owns, but that still won't fix the problem. It's like throwing wood from your house into a fire and hoping that'll put it out. You have to enforce it on everyone, it's like saying "if you really wanted a communal fire department, why don't you pay for one by yourself?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:04 AM
1

Should
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:02 AM
2

You can hate the rich, while being rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:02 AM
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You keep thinking it's about forcing people to have sex. Either you are really bad at singing the point, are you are intentionally not seeing it. These baseless accusations don't support your cause. Most incels can't get anything, and you can't work at becoming 6'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:01 AM
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By taking your analogy It's like complaining that no one barters your food because the one you give in return is bad. The analogy doesn't work here. It's not a matter of what you're offering and what you're getting. The analogy is simply about who can get, and who can't get. Who are The haves and the Have nots. Women are haves, and they are not in the same boat as men. You can always make food on your own. Masturbating isn't intimate. It doesn't fulfill that social need.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:00 AM
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Nothing about this suggests we're angelic, I don't know where you got that impression from. you seem to believe that you judge attraction based on personality, and that implies that you're attracted to things that aren't as simple as attractiveness. You're not different, you're the same as the rest of us. There's also studies that say men pictured with children or dogs are rated more attractive than photos of those same men on their own. Being more attractive, is not the same as being attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:58 AM
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If you are 0 you have very severe defects. If you are severely obese with an average face, etc. you probably are 2/10. On a woman scale, those men are invisible, so they might as well be -1 A guy with average facial features probably can't reach anything above 7. Once he is 6 or even 5 it's better for him to stop lookmaxing (and just keeping himself in shape) and improve himself in other aspects. I disagree. Looks are the most important thing, and most men are rated to be below a 5. Why do they,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:52 AM
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There's a strong correlation between how people rate attractiveness and personality. Statistically, your Asian friend is the exception. He might be really really rich, or really really attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:47 AM
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It's the one hurdle that you can't get over. That's why it's so important. That's like saying access to food is not the most important thing for health.you need food before you consider which food do you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:46 AM
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In other words, Alpha fucks, Beta Bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:37 PM
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The insult is about ability, not result. It insults your ability to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:36 PM
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You aren't fucking them, and then saying that when they're complaining on anonymous internet forum is why they aren't getting laid. It's the equivalent of hitting someone and then saying that they wouldn't get hit if they weren't constantly crying from the pain of getting hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 02:39 AM
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You attempt to be insulting and dismissive. However, this sounds to me like a legitimate grievance. This is why men aren't listening to you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 11:27 PM
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Their reputation. How they treat other people. Lack of honesty. The list is too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 11:20 PM
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Are you attractive, rich, white, or tall?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 11:17 PM
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Yes, looksmaxing first. But after some point its returns become too small (you can easily move from 4 to 6, but it becomes very hard to move from 7 to 8). So, you should spend some time on looks, some time on conversation skills and after that some time on hobbies. It's just that you can't play a card when you are not in the game. Most guys are on -1. Stop giving them advice on how to move from 7 to 8. We can agree on looksmaxing first. The problem is that people treat that as if it is secondary…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 06:41 PM
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Developing any skill requires time. when men are told to develop hobbies, they spend more time on that and then on other things that could be more attractive. It's the equivalent of spending four years on learning how to be good at interviews in order to get a job. it's a small part that most men shouldn't bother focusing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:04 PM
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You literally defined them as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 05:03 PM
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You found Alpha Buxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:48 PM
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They prefer that the guys they are already with to have hobbies. Getting a hobby won't help 99% get a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:35 PM
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They can always import cheaper labor. What about doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc.? Also, that cheap labor will probably be other men. You haven't addressed the issue. They can always automate. Automation won't erase jobs, it'll just change their nature. Anyway, how long can a bunch of men go before they're on the street? Most men aren't homeless. I'm confused as to what this is supposed to say. They'll have screwed themselves, not society. They can both be screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:34 PM
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I would agree with you if it wasn't something that is often said to explain away why some men get sex and some don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:59 AM
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People also wants less suicides. People also want less domestic abuse. People need men to be motivated to work
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:59 AM
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And Hitler only advocates for united Germany. Russia only wants to secure its borders. Your crush isn'tt ready for a relationship right now
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:34 AM
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Women are often surprised that men don't do the "right thing" when the "right thing" is punished and not rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:32 AM
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Have you never been told that girls like good guys? Have you never been told that girls love guys with hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:25 AM
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You're so cool for not caring about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:25 AM
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Is that why the term is used as an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:23 AM
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r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:22 AM
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A lot of their subs were banned too, this is only natural. There are more people telling them how sad and deplorable they are then people who address their issues. You can't prevent this on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:21 AM
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Is that why the connotation it's often coupled with is the man is unable to get pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:18 AM
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A sex bit doesn't validate. A sex bot is just a better deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 01:53 AM
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If the data is showing anything, it's that women are not opting out. You don't consider it a privilege because you can't compare it to not having a choice at all. It's like complaining that your food tastes bad, and saying it's not a privilege when compared to people who don't have food.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 05:01 AM
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You think they will swoon over sexless neckbeards when they see them in real life? You already assumed that they will be unattractive. Why should they leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:59 AM
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Can't be. I've been told that you need to be happy with yourself first, and relationships can to make you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:57 AM
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Men decided collectively to be misogynistic and stop showering. They also contracted a severe case of autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:55 AM
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"Society is bad in some form. Stop trying to make it better."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:52 AM
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Not directly, and not only with the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:48 AM
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When I met my ex, and then my then BF, now husband, love grew out of affection, attachment, and Ultimately, compatibility. I'm assuming you have to spend time around each other for that to happen. He had to attract you with something. He had to stand out among other men. The grass is greener where you water it, is the quite obvious answer. I agree, and this is how it should be. But why water dying grass when there is luscious green grass available a swipe away. I guess I never considered that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:48 AM
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Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make it fair. Doesn't mean we should lie to people, and blame them for failures outside their control. Just because people eventually figure something out doesn't mean that it was okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:33 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:32 AM
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Losing virginity =\= being desired. Average =\= median.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:09 AM
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They can't do that too because they're not given the opportunity to. you can't prove that you'll be a nice boyfriend, if no one will let you be their boyfriend. It also says a lot, when you make people jump through different hoops based on the way they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:08 AM
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If something is improbable, but not impossible, you can see plenty of examples, but statistically, there are more that simply will not have success. Like winning the lottery. It can happen, but it's a bad idea to think that it will. Can I have a source on grooming skills being lacking in men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:06 AM
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80/20 Your looksmatch doesn't want to you. There aren't enough women to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:04 AM
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So, you agree that it's almost down to looks. Thank you for confirming the Black Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:03 AM
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A very explicitly talk about things like height. You can't change that. It's easy to not think about other people's problems by blaming them for the issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:02 AM
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I'm not worried about myself. You can't add height or hair in the gym. You can't change your bone structure in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:01 AM
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Societal: People become honest. Society helps each other. Career: Develop technology to fight Global Warming. Something to make my parents proud. Also, be a best selling author and voice-actor Personal: A loving wife that wants me for me, and doesn't even think about how I compare. I don't have to compete when I'm with her. She should also play games with me and like to snuggle. 2-4 kids. A good relationship with the extended family. Plenty of time for video games, sports, books, etc. That or mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 04:01 AM
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I'm 27 and I'm married. Hence why this doesn't apply to you. we are talking about if you were somebody who was on the dating market. You're not in love. You have a selection of men to pick from. Why go for less than perfect? Why not dump the guy if he's not up to snuff? Why settle for less? I don't know why a bunch of random cocks is having it all? Because they are not exactly random. They are tall, attractive, fit, etc. they're everything you could possibly want for that moment. And yeah, exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:45 AM
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Excellent retort. You've destroyed the liberals with facts and logic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:38 AM
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If you find a guy on tinder doesn't mean he wants to be with you long term. Neither is the guy you're talking to. The guy you're talking to can be replaced. You might not even want long-term. Why would you, if you can have it all? I've read a bunch of ancedotes about women having a hard time with OLD. They usually go along these lines: "This revolving door of women coming into his life and want to sleep with him treated me as though I was just another one of those girls he wanted to sleep with. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:38 AM
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They are the only people saying what actually matters when it comes to mutual attraction. Personality doesn't matter. Social skills don't matter. Only looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:34 AM
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You have to move onto the next girl. Same song & dance. If you're not attractive to one woman, chances are most women don't think of you as attractive. You can talk to a thousand women, not one will think that you being 5'4" is not an issue. If she’s not attracted to you then there’s no other option anyway. You could stop wasting your time. Like what is the alternative to this. Giving up. I don't ask people without legs to keep trying until they can walk. We teach them to accept it. Like you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:33 AM
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In case you're serious, you are using words that in ways if that nobody is using them. We both agree that being tall unattractive are the most important factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:25 AM
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That's literally the opposite of a Chad. You just confirmed the BlackPill lmao More words
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:24 AM
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You don't have to be taught to like sugar. Women don't have to be taught to like Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:23 AM
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Tell your husband about it, just for 24 hours. Why would he be afraid if it's not possible to replace him in 5 minutes? He won't tell you this, but he's scared to death that you can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:22 AM
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Female attraction is based on more than just perfect looks. https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037/h0021188 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19558447 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00570.x I got more links if you want. We use "attracted" differently than you do. You aren't as angelic as you think you are. You are just as animalistic and base. When we say a guy who's good with kids is attractive, he IS, and he has that quality regardless of his looks. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:20 AM
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Try it. Prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:05 AM
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That's literally the opposite of a Chad. You just confirmed the BlackPill lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:04 AM
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Then move onto the next girl. Who will also do the same song and dance. And if you guys can’t even get a girls interest how does negging/holding frame/kino help you? I'm Black Pill, but the all the things you just mentioned play into the "holding a girls attention during small talk" bit. You have to be attracting her during the conversation otherwise you are not relationship material. If you cant find one girl who wants to talk to you then you probably just have shit social skills. Why not ugly?…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:03 AM
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Why do they mention that there are more attractive men out there? Why do they focus on things that we're told don't matter? Also, for 80% of men, they won't get last the "somewhat attracted to" threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 03:01 AM
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I'm trying to say that average men do not have safety in a relationship. You will constantly have to give. She doesn't want you, she wants Chad. I.e. the Black Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:57 AM
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Obviously, and men come attached with cocks and vice versa. You can replace your man. How is a Tinder date not a new man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:54 AM
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I don't disagree with their content, I'm using them as an example of truths that people won't tell you. "A good personality will get you laid." "You just have to be more confident." "Girls aren't constantly thinking about Chad and comparing you to him."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:53 AM
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Open a Tinder. Wait 24 hours for guys to see the new account. Swipe right 20 times. Brand spanking new man. Even if he's not Chad, he's still a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:51 AM
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You see someone you fancy, you talk to them. If they want to talk to you. "I have a boyfriend." Is a common phrase. You talk to them enough until you exchange snapchats/phone numbers whatever. This won't happen. Think about how many you didn't do this with. And then you flirt on there to test the waters. "I'm not looking for a relationship rn." Are you guys saying you can’t even make small talk with a female?? They won't want to date you just because they are okay talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:50 AM
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The data disagrees. Those other women just don't verbalize it the same way. The women in that sub will say "I hate shorties" other women would say "we just didn't click"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:47 AM
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For guys trying to find gfs, how is that difference important? If they are gaining instead of losing, I would say they aren't losers. It's the equivalent of calling Jeff Bezos a loser because he mistreats his employees.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:46 AM
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You blasted past several steps that stop most men. You are giving men advice on how to be better at step 356, but since you started there, you think it's step 1. Men need help with the real step 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:40 AM
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Doing the same thing with a different hat on
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:39 AM
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They use a different language, but I don't see how there truths are different from the rest of women's truths. I.e. I can replace this guy in 5 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:39 AM
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You got approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:37 AM
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Then why do they keep mentioning looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:33 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:32 AM
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It's less incels and more to do with the economic burden, and children with no father figures. The system that breeds incels breeds those other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:14 AM
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"Why do you complain about an economic system that makes you poor?" It also has to do with the lies that people grew up with and are still spread around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 02:12 AM
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Doesn't mean that those ideas aren't popular. If you can't use a sample to study large populations, no science means anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:42 AM
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Excellent retort
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:40 AM
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Nice. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:29 AM
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So, the incels are right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:28 AM
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"Looks aren't the most important thing!" "You don't have to be 6'+!" Etc. How can you deny those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:22 AM
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What makes you think those women are separate? Can't handle the truth? I will go away as soon as someone proves me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:21 AM
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The first paper shows that the uglier you are, the longer you wait. It's not equal regardless of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:17 AM
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How does that negate the point you made earlier? You said they were going for a man they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:16 AM
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Good point. The end result is that the incels are right to think that it all boils down to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:14 AM
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http://pauleastwick.com/s/HuntEastwickFinkel2015PSci.pdf https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550615584196?journalCode=sppa
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:13 AM
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Yes, and the BP still assumes that women are equally suffering in the dating market. The Black Pill shows the truth that those women are all chasing after Chad. They think height is very relevant, attractive faces are very relevant, and men are easily replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:03 AM
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I think that both are not ideal relationships, but the burden isn't equally placed on the sexes. Those women are still chasing Chad and letting him get away with behavior they hate and punish the low value men for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:02 AM
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I'm more concerned with the parts relevant to the Black Pill. Also, how is a guy going to compete when women are now aware?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 01:00 AM
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Unless you're a Chad, you don't have much of a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:59 AM
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It's about the fact that is brought up to avoid the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:43 AM
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Directed towards BP. Why shouldn't I be wary that women think like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 12:42 AM
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I want a long-term partner, but not at the expense of VR.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 06:42 PM
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I got the name all of them off the top of my head. I recall a Muslim empire (Mamluks(?)), and Mansa Musa
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:41 PM
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I am of Berlin. -JFK
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:39 PM
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Women tend to think they're more attractive than they actually are. Hence 80/20
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:39 PM
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Exactly, you can't find data of men putting aside nasty attitudes for sex. Women will ignore a man's nasty attitude. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00570.x
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:35 PM
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African countries are improving at a rapid rate. They had their ups, they are currently in a down. I can say that Michael Phelps is a very fast swimmer, even if he is not able to swim when he's 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:32 PM
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It's not a competition. I'm saying that if you can blame Jews for your problems, then you have to admit that black people have problems because of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:30 PM
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He still needed to get around 40% of the vote. You can also vote in local elections. You can vote for people who oppose the electoral college.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:38 PM
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There's a reason we no longer consider it a good science. Further, up until the 60s, Europeans weren't considered a single race. Slavs, Germanics, Greeks, Italians, Jews, etc. Were all considered vastly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:37 PM
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Thanks, mom
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:34 PM
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The same can be said for African cultures. You're not civilization builders or colonizers exclusively. It's just your turn Edit: You can't even argue that your turn is over, and it's China's turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:33 PM
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The whites had a much stronger influence on Africa than the Jews did on any other civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:32 PM
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I never specified which end I want to be on for a reason ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:29 PM
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"Ich bin ein Berliner"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:27 PM
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No such thing. There is great variance among all ethnicities. Italians don't look like Germans. Swedes don't look like the French. The Greek don't look like the Slavs. also, that doesn't change the fact that your children can inherit those features from you, and inherit some of those features from their mother. They'll look like both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:27 PM
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So, why can't you do the same with a non-white partner? Your children will have features from both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:20 PM
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But I don't if I do yet :(
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:16 PM
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"I" can be used to show solidarity. It can be used to show how she would feel if she were in that position. The second paragraph is just pure projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 02:06 PM
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Demographic shifts are a force of nature. They are neither good nor bad. Getting in the way can be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:46 PM
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Depends on what you define as action. Voting and educating voters are actions. Whenever more is done, the right will immediately attack them in the media as violent. See: antifa
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:45 PM
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Aren't we making fun of her for I have expensive shoes and also supporting communism?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:44 PM
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Well, even if those studies refer to all people who watch porn and did not just addicts, then that means the best solution is for all meant to get partners early. Men don't watch porn because they prefer it to real women, they watch it because they can't get real women. In other words, you can sleep with a guy who watches porn or the guy who sleeps with a bunch of women. If you don't want either, you should have dated the ugly guys. Too late for this generation. With the way things are going, to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:43 PM
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The voter base would be much more successful if it wasn't for the white man. You got in the way of progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:40 PM
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I wasn't expecting this Me right now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:37 PM
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Understandable, have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:34 PM
1

The same doesn't happen to my friends. That's the curious part
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:34 PM
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The right likes to praise hard work, until someone poor actually makes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:32 PM
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Does the same apply for blacks in relation to whites? They could build a much better society than you could if the white man didn't get in the way?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:31 PM
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It's not spread equally between the sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:28 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:28 PM
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You can be rich and support the poor
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 01:27 PM
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That's your failing. I don't want examples, I want data
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:24 AM
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Cool, but why does that make him a bad partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:18 AM
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That last part is not the true. You have no evidence of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:13 AM
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r/blackpillscience
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:09 AM
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Welp, most men apparently don't have your extremely accurate perceptions. I'm glad that it gives me more flexibility
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:06 AM
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Never fell for the "attractive time model" meme?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:02 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:01 AM
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If you can blame the whites, you can blame the xenomorphs. If you can't blame the lights, you can't blame the xenomorphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:01 AM
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This is the part where I show you the data, and you deny it with anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 06:00 AM
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I clarified in the body. I'm not going to lie and say I wouldn't smash an attractive transexual, but I haven't been presented with the opportunity yet
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:57 AM
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In other words, they are right. Ugly people are not dateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:53 AM
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You're the exception.every single person I talk to about anything Google statistic involving them is the exception to that statistic
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:51 AM
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Lose weight. Date ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:40 AM
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Reddit rules prevent me from saying what they will do to themselves. We hate them, we won't help them, we treat them as a redeemable, we make fun of them, and we don't have the decency to get out of the way when they want to put an end to their misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:39 AM
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Cool story. The thread is about whether they are right or wrong. This is why people don't take women seriously as intellectuals
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:37 AM
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I have been told I'm nicer than most. However, the ones that flashed me I don't even know. Happens in seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:35 AM
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Yes, that's why Asian, Indian, short, bald men have less success.these things are associated with having bad social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:24 AM
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Can the environment affect people in any way? No, it must be the genetics that are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:20 AM
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The leader of the American alt right has an Asian wife who disagrees with him
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:19 AM
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The data disagrees. Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:13 AM
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You realized he is a misogynist after you gave him a bunch of pussy. He must be devastated
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 05:11 AM
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Looking at pictures of Ferraris online is not the same as renting a Ferrari.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:57 AM
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I agree. Except with the porn thing. How's that similar?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:56 AM
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Notice more =\= notice exclusively
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:48 AM
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"I've dated plenty of average-looking guys." "My BF is average." "Average guys can still get laid."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:48 AM
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Being black is associated with being lower class. Lower class is associated with ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:18 AM
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Do you look a lot like your dad? Do you look a lot like your mother? Or do both of your parents look alike?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:17 AM
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Physical features go way beyond that. Unless you marry your siblings or cousins, your kids going to look way different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:59 PM
2

Purge week.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:44 AM
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You associate being black that those features because of social and media conditioning. I learned to change those perceptions, so can you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:41 AM
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BELOW AVERAGE MAN: I'm standing right in front of you. WOMAN: Hmm, must have been the wind. NGL. That part cracked me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 04:11 AM
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I'll take either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 03:50 AM
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Mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:57 AM
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She's probably going to sleep with the older dude anyway. Cutting her off, but giving you the option of returning, means that relationship will probably last for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:53 AM
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The goalposts of blue and red have both shifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:44 AM
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All white people look the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:38 AM
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That sounds very wrong. That being said, I want it in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:35 AM
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Principal, and empathy. I feel pain when other people feel pain. Probably why I sympathize with incels so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:29 AM
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LET ME TOUCH IT!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:28 AM
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Did I ask? I wouldn't care about anything except the abortions and the kind of man she sleeps with. It lets me know where I stack on the totem pole, and where this relationship is headed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:26 AM
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I spent most of my life going with the flow. Didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:24 AM
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Statistically, women have stronger racial preferences. They just don't talk about it as loudly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:20 AM
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We need transformer penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:20 AM
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Too late, I just became a mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:12 AM
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How are you supposed to shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:11 AM
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Is it too serious or light-hearted? I'm very confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:11 AM
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Real talk, after all that venting, I feel great. We should love each other more. I don't know you, but I really love you. Life sucks, but we don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:10 AM
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We don't have to disagree to keep talking. I think we've done well by finding common ground, and seeing a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:00 AM
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This is the equivalent of a broke man saying that Porsches suck. Your own hatred keeps you from enjoying life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:58 AM
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Even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:56 AM
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A worthy goal. And a life free of desire. Sounds like the life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:54 AM
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Hormones are real. You can influence them. Follow the science, not your heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:54 AM
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At least they won't be tortured by unrequited love. It's the worst form of torture I can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:52 AM
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Is there a pulse? Edit: Actually, that's not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:51 AM
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Don't shame mommy fetishes. They are the last hope for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:49 AM
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RIP to my Indian brothers. I wish you more bobs and vagene in this life or the next. Perhaps you will be Chad in another life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:48 AM
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Legit, you should seek affirmative consent if you're sleeping with somebody who has severe autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:46 AM
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I don't drink coffee. Rage is my drug of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:44 AM
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My randomly created character sucks. I hate procedural generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:42 AM
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Ignorance is bliss. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:36 AM
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How do you think the Earth stays up? I've been lifting so hard that the Earth is the only weight that makes me feel strain anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:20 AM
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Have you seen the pictures thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:17 AM
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Conceptually, yes. Statistically no. It's possible to win the lottery. My dad found my mom. I won't play the same game he did. I also know that his frequent losses didn't leave him unscathed. I've been on those subs. The difference is night and day. It's the equivalent of a person comparing not being able to afford healthy, delicious food with someone who gets no food at all. If I had to choose between getting no sex while being unloved, and having sex while being unloved, I would take the latte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:15 AM
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I love Halloween pranks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:03 AM
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Yet you don’t like women with high n-counts of women are more liberal and egalitarian with sex. If women are even MORE liberal with sex distribution there’ll be more women with high N-counts. Here's the order I prefer: Low n-count high egalitarianism. High n-count high egalitarianism. Low n-count low egalitarianism. High n-count low egalitarianism. You don't have to fuck everyone. Just don't chase exclusively after Chad. A man being a non-Chad doesn’t eliminate the emotional risks that come with…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 01:03 AM
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Uhhhh for casual meaningless sex EVERYONE tries to punch above their weight Data disagrees. Men lower their standards, women raise them. It’s like hiring a chef: do you choose the classically trained one who worked at a 4 star restaurant or some schlub from the diner down the street who might be “nice?” I'm with you. No one wants the 4 star chef. Everyone wants Gordon Ramsay. Now you see the blackpill. For meaningless sex: looks, Chad and Stacy reign supreme Don't try to make it seem as though t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 12:37 AM
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Who the hell said anything about cheating They're still married. Only one got a divorce after several years. Not because he wanted something else. I don't trust women to do the same. I wasn't talking about scarcity. I am. Scarcity, or perceived scarcity is what drives dating behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 11:38 PM
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It’s because self improvement is what’s needed and sometimes hard work does pay off. Sometimes. Sometimes you're better off trying to strive for change in a societal level. Sometimes you're better off giving up. Other times you have to work smart and not hard. It depends on the situation and what it calls for. One thing that’s certain though is if you weren’t dealt the best cards in life refusing to use them and just wallowing in anger and self pity that someone got a better deck will do nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 11:18 PM
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I don’t think that will work as well as you’re hoping. A big part of the reason why women wanted sexual and economic freedom in the first place is because they didn’t want to be stuck under the thumb and rule of “mediocre” men. They wanted the opportunity to try and find better men. The problem is that they lacked choice. No one likes being told what to do. I'm pretty sure if I was forced to marry Kate Upton, I'd be pretty pissed too. Or stay single with no man at all while still being able to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 11:11 PM
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N-Nani.?!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 10:39 PM
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I've been to therapy. My issues with society are real. Just because they make me depressed doesn't mean they're not real. I am self-improving. I just know what hand I have been dealt. I won't spend money on the lottery, I won't expect a woman to love me. I won't expect her to stop wanting Chad. I can get sex now, but it wasn't because I believed I could. It was because I believed I couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 10:37 PM
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Getting your dick wet by multiple holes is ambition? It's an ambition. It's a desire. All these context are much rarer that the main causes, which is desire. Do you think desire is unchangeable? that feeling will cause a person to never feel they are good enough or wanted enough. Because they usually aren't. They should stop lying to themselves. We should stop lying to ourselves that the world is always just and things will work out for everyone. You can't solve a problem if you don't see a prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 10:35 PM
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No, politicians agreed that the expense of putting everyone through compulsory education was worth the cost to the taxpayer because it produces future taxpayers. Were this not the case, there would no free education for anyone. It only exists because it benefits the state. Make no mistake about that. You don't think society is better with more educated people are in it? Do you prefer not having employees who can read? As for laziness yeah some people actually are just lazy. But we even have pill…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 10:08 PM
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Yet if women become even more “stingy with sex” it will be a problem. Damned if you damned if you don’t. No one is asking that. I suggested that they become more egalitarian with the sex distribution. There is no do or don't. There is do it differently. That’s not cheating though. I know, I'm just using it as an example of how you can be okay with certain behaviors, and other people won't. If they don’t want what their girlfriend is offering they can always leave. I know, I'm suggesting that's m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:31 PM
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You know you can walk and chew gum at the same time right? Cooperating with the police and compiling a list of possible suspects won’t take up so much time that I’ll be unable to work hard and recoup. Why is that my responsibility though? I don't want to do it? I’m not giving advice that would hurt them. Telling them to work on themselves, when the way you suggest working on themselves will not give them the results they want is hurtful. Telling them to not try to change society for the better i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:34 PM
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How rich are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:17 PM
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They were. He has his supporters, but so do the YouTubers who made negative videos about him so his comment section was a mess for a while and it gave me an interesting view into how men’s minds worked. Support for him was split along gender lines until the allegations of him and his mistress physically abusing his wife came out. That kind of stuff attract a minority of men, and a majority of women. It's not as gender-based as you like to think it is. Plus, men don't want to do something that a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:59 PM
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No most men are not struggling. Only the ones that are trying to live the life of Don Juan. In other words, men who don't have ambitions, are not struggling to achieve those ambitions. Yeah it pretty much does, unless it’s rape. you can sleep with someone because you feel sorry for them. You can sleep with someone because you want something from them. You can sleep with someone because no one else will. None of those are rape, none of them are desire for sex. People desire to fuck, so they fuck.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:23 PM
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It's easier to convince people to get over the height issue if they're already having a conversation with you. Depending on how good you are with taking pictures, tinder might be better than real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 05:12 PM
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So you do have an issue with them then. “I don’t have a problem with short guys, I’ll be friends with them but I’d never sleep with them” That's a fair comparison. Except I blame high n-count women for their plight. Their choices lead to their suffering. I don’t know anyone(I’m including myself in this) who is trying to get men to be ok with their girlfriends not sleeping with them and cheating on them. Most men remain blissfully unaware. Most men are okay with not getting to experience the high…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:42 PM
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Going with your examples if I was robbed I’d spend my time trying to get justice and find the people who robbed me You'd spend your entire life doing that instead of moving on. vs stewing in bitterness and anger. IDK "trying to get justice" seems pretty angry and bitter. If my country broke out in war I’d try to escape or fight to get my safe life back but I wouldn’t be bitter . You are a zen monk who is not affected emotionally by anything in life. You are cool as a cucumber who is never stress…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:29 PM
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Idk how it is in the US but in most of the developed world there's free compulsory education until the age of 18 Exactly, we have agreed that society needed changing. Not the individual. We still blame people who faill in bad schools for their "laziness" though. Further education (university) should really only be attended by people who actually need degrees for their career. We want more doctors, but we're not willing to relieve them of debt. Tragedy of the commons. If anything we need to stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:24 PM
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Then his ig started getting rage flooded by women. Appears that most people are not on his side. Sacrifice your wants for random dudes? Why? I’m confused on what you’re getting at so please elaborate. Don't take out loans for fancy cars. You don't end up in deep debt, and have an appreciation for the minivan. Sacrifice short-term gain and the illusion of the high life to achieve greater contentment for you and society. I make sure to only approach and engage with men who are my looksmatch or bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:11 PM
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I had a dream that society didn't influence individuals. Why do people irl keep talking about societal issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:58 PM
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No matches, no dates. You can't get to step 2 if you can't get to step 1. ​ 0 =/= very low. 0=0. None. Nada. Zilch. Bagel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:53 PM
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Most men aren't in that minority either so they talking out their arse. Most men aren't in that minority either so they talking out their arse. Most men don't claim to be Chads. Most men are struggling to find women. Hence the popularity of the red and black pills. Most (80%) losing their virginity through STR/LTR between the ages of 16-19 Having sex =/= desired for sex. Unless you think that preference for casual hookups increases as you get taller. 40% people have sex exclusively in commited r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:49 PM
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You fall into this as well because you seem set on not being with a woman with a high n count. That’s perfectly fine but you’ll have to go one of the aforementioned routes if you choose not to lower your standards. I have no issue with high n-count women. I will sleep with them, but not date them. My issue is not "how does this help me?" but "This is bad for everyone, why can't anyone see it?" Less than a week or one more date is plenty of time. That's still an undue burden placed on the man. Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:42 PM
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Cunt coaster. Imagine that Chad and this guy are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:28 PM
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why are you so hung up on the material? It's an analogy. there are plenty of cultures and people leading very fulfilling lives without ever having even sat in a supercar. Exactly, they never experienced the supercar. It's the equivalent of women who did not sleep with GigaChads. They are typically happier. If you chose to focus on art, learning, reading, lounging, loving, biking, yoga, eating popcorn, whatever, then enjoy the lower stress of the shared 2 BR apt. You can do that while being rich.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:21 PM
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you're projecting. maybe it's the company I keep, but the fellow Libertarian leaning friends and hobby acquaintances I hang with do not "blame [society] for our issues". Exactly, that's a problem. Society shapes you more than you shape yourself. It's easy to say that you are responsible for how you turned out to when society puts you in a position that makes you successful. We didn't pick our parents, nor how we were raised as young children, but after that, we're where we "are" (for better or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:16 PM
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Well, there are plenty of examples. We want people to be educated, and yet we refuse to support education. We tell people to be happy by themselves, when that is impossible even if you're a sociopath. We tell people take care of their children, but there is very little reward (from the community) for doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:10 PM
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I disagree with your statement, at face value. It assumes no course corrections and self awareness. That's fair. that's not what I said. and I quote: ".. find the best match (ie: optimal partner) you can " "best match" and "optimal partner" is not "if everyone wants the best", it means the best "for you" and the "best you can do". See, "best for you" and "best you can do" are very different things. The lots are also does not differentiate between sex and relationships.it doesn't differentiate be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:07 PM
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And get zero matches? How does that solve the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:43 PM
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All the data disagrees with you. Most men's experiences disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:43 PM
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You divide men into Chads and non-Chads, where in fact there is a giant and growing % of Chad-lites, I'd like to see a source on that. data shows that people are having less sex, and less men are having sex then women. I don't think that it's a clean and easily identifiable split, but the split exist. and THAT is the mechanism that is upsetting he Game lately. Are you saying that women are now chasing uglier men? The rise of the Hipster guy was also the rise of a half-Chad, Chad in a different o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:41 PM
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physically? No. Poor Jeremy Meeks. Most women don't agree that he's attractive. The closest to an universal Chad like this is a guy who is extremely confident and has extreme emotional intelligence, Women often confuse good looks for confidence and "personality. so that he can manipulate any woman. Was Jeremy Meeks such an emotional genius that he manipulated so much money out of so many women using nothing but his face? Looks have little to do with it, except as a confidence booster. So, you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:34 PM
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If one man has sex with a hundred women, and nine men have no sex at all. The average man is having sex with 10 women. Even if most men are not having any sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:20 PM
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how is that surprising? Humans want things. Not surprising, just a pretty face for an explanation. Also, let's not pretend that the common opinion is it that women only want attractive men. just because something is natural does not mean it's good. Nature wants people to die of diabetes. Women would love a guy who is both capable of delivering, while decent about it. Since most cannot have everything, they must compromise between having someone who is capable (a Chad) and someone who is decent. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:18 PM
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To be honest, that 9/10 SMV only matters if their personality is at least somewhat compatible with mine. Why the hell would you want to fuck a 9+/10 with a nasty personality, if you have some respect for yourself? standards for what's a good personality is change depending on how attractive the person is. That's just science. Also, what people say and do are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:56 PM
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Every man AND every woman will drop everything to fuck a 9/10. Not in my experience. My family is filled with good-looking men, and they've had opportunities to be unfaithful with much more attractive women than their wives. This is what we call projection. How has this ever been construed as a primarily gendered phenomenon Women have more chances to sleep with attractive man than vice versa. What an attractive men do for any pussy, is the equivalent of what women do for Chad dick only.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:55 PM
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I legit don’t know why you have beef with this girl. I'm debating. Do you just have beef with the world in general? The world in general, some people more than others. Do you just not have an outlet for this sort of shit? This isn't my outlet. This is the place I come to hoping people prove me wrong. If not, then I hope for social change. Or, at least men realizing that they have been lied to. Listen up man. There’s actually a lot of research on this topic, and it’s pretty clear that physical at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:51 PM
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I wouldn’t be bitter about it. Really? You won't feel bitter after losing the high Life?are you a Buddhist monk who can simply take any form of pain and suffering and to just go with it? Accept it with no negative feelings? Use your parents as an analogy. That's more relatable. Do you think you'd be as upset about a parent dying if you had grown up with them as you would be if you hadn't grown up with them? What’s a scenario where it wouldn’t be my fault that comparable to the smp like you’re tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:33 PM
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If he has Facebook probably that too but I first saw it on it months ago. Then a couple female youtubers discussed it and their subscribers went to his page and rage spammed him. I'm still confused where all of this is taking place. The platform changes things. Chase in what sense? NSA sex. Sacrificing their own wants for his. Asking out. Not rejecting. Try to impress him. Most men will always hate women. Only because they are mistreated and lied to. Even when sex was more equally distributed an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:29 PM
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Like women you’ll either have to face the backlash or virtue signal. You don't see lowering standards as an option? f you’re upset that a girl slept with over 10 people just give it some time and say you’re not compatible. How much time? I should still waste time and money talking to her, and going out with her? Weddings aren’t work in my eyes. Those are always fun. Study groups can go either way and it depends on if I’m the one tutoring or not. I don’t see how this is akin to cuckoldry. It's ak…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:17 PM
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What if it wasn't your fault? Also, you still view it as an L. You cannot be as satisfied with a used minivan as you have been had you not experienced the Ferrari for most of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:04 AM
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Is the “exclusive chase” in reference to men or women. I’m lost on how that connects to anything I said. Women chase attractive men exclusively. Inb4 "well, duh" Don't be surprised when they hate you and use you when you're older though. Don't be surprised when you can't be happy with Billy Beta. Don't be surprised that incels continue to hate women. https://youtu.be/meiU6TxysCg This shouldn't surprise you. It may be easier for an ugly woman to get(free) sex than an ugly man but it won’t be with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 07:02 AM
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Weddings and study sessions aren’t work. One is a formality, and the other is definitely work. Those can be fun. Can be fun doesn't mean is fun. It also doesn't change the fact that you only get to experience a very specific kind of fun whether you want it or not. I honestly wouldn’t be upset since I’m not an extrovert Being such an introvert that you don't like being invited to events or gatherings, and prefer people only talk to you for work or formalities is extremely rare. Just like there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:56 AM
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If you drove nothing but supercars, and lived in mansions, if you have to have roommates in a two-bedroom apartment and only use public transportation, you will be very angry. It doesn't matter how "in tune with your emotions" you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:50 AM
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What’s not an exclusive chase? Chasing for romantic/sexual purposes I’ve been an ugly woman and I can assure you we don’t live the same life as beautiful women. I don't think you do. I think that you have chances to sleep with somewhat attractive men, and to have a relationship with average men. This is 100x better than being an ugly man. Whether or not the woman gets blamed depends on the situation and who you ask. True, but popular opinion sides with women. Women are wonderful There was a cele…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:27 AM
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At what cost though?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:15 AM
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I’d just assume that they picked up on the fact that I’m a wallflower. I'm saying that you were never asked. They never invited you to fun stuff. They only invited you for real work. It’s not socially acceptable to say because it makes you sound insecure. Cool motive. Doesn't change the fact that it's socially unacceptable. Also, let's not assume that it's still not viewed as a flaw in moral character. People use 'insecure' to insult the men they view as bad because insults are socially acceptab…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:15 AM
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But it's not an exclusive chase. The ugly women also get to live that life. They aren't blamed for the men's unhappiness and/or unfaithfulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 06:10 AM
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Exactly my point. Which is why I don't think that the plight of women and men are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:09 AM
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Again, the fact that that is the only difference you see is why men believe the 80/20 rule. One is fat. One has a much weaker jaw. One has generally much better features.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:53 AM
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Not that. Cheating is immoral, but everything else I said is not related to what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:51 AM
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If you think that those two people look similar in yes of attractiveness, the bottom 80% of men have no hope of being perceived as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:34 AM
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See above. Tl;dr Social conditioning of men to think that moral behavior is attractive. Also, being attracted/not attracted to someone is no excuse for immoral behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:33 AM
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How they pursue them and treat people based on attractiveness is related
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 03:16 AM
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The dating market is not removed from moral judgments.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:56 AM
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You can be as upset and bitter about it as you want. And you don't have to be with anyone you don't want too, so if you think a girl has had to much sex don't date her. I agree, but, in my experience, that's not socially acceptable to say. There are people that you might fuck but not date Yes, and there is a certain type of man that all women want to fuck, and you have to at least be fuckable to be dateable. and there are some people you wouldn't do either and some that maybe over time you would…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:48 AM
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Whats the obsession with finding moral fault. People's attraction doesn't work on morals I'm responding to that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:40 AM
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Holy shit. Goddamn. It never even began for the bottom 80%
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:39 AM
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That's understandable, but the problem is that a lot of men are shamed for not being there when a woman "is done having fun." And also feel bitter because they were not allowed that experience. Imagine if your friends never invited you to parties, gaming sessions, travelling, etc. but invited you to study sessions, help with moving, weddings, etc. You would (rightfully) think that you're not a real friend, and wouldn't agree to help people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:39 AM
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Plenty of MGTOWs and incels are ethnicities. r/braincels had a poll that showed that half the users were non-white. A lot of "not-racist" women have very strong racial preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:36 AM
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I think not caring about other people's feelings makes you a bad person. I think betraying someone's trust makes you a bad person. I also think that blaming someone else for your choices that hurt them makes you a bad person. This also neglects how men are told that their failures are because of a lack of moral character, and that people want morality from their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:34 AM
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https://medium.com/a-m-awaken-your-inner-asian/an-executive-summary-on-the-intermarriage-in-the-asian-community-5852043e684a 37% of asian women want white men exclusively. They also rate white men as more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:26 AM
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Not moral. It's just that you refuse to think that a woman does something that makes her a bad mate, but you are immediately willing to believe that all men's issues in dating are their own. In other words, you burden one sex with responsibility for the status of the RMP. Edit: Plus, morality is important when men are constantly told that the reason for their failings are due to their lack of moral character.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 02:05 AM
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Never a woman's fault. Women are wonderful :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:37 AM
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The difference is who can afford it, and men can only do so much to improve their attractiveness. In that analogy, the women would be the resteraunts. Fancy resteraunts would be stacies who can demand ridiculous things in order to get access to them. They can even reject people for not adhering to the aesthetic. Walmart is Beckies who can have plenty of sex with bored Chads and normies, but still aren't giving anything away. They wish they could charge more, but they settle for who they can, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:36 AM
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If you don't think they're good looking. This is just more proof of how skewed your perceptions of attractiveness are. You want to tell me Louis CK is as good looking as Owen Wilson?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:31 AM
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You're welcome. Though I should apologize for giving it when none was asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 01:30 AM
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I don't see what you're saying. I'll post in the sub though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:14 AM
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Well, shit. Not saying I don't believe you, but...source?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:07 AM
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That last part makes sense now. You're actually the (statistically) exception among most ethnicities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:03 AM
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Hmm. Maybe that's correlated or even causated. I would advise against using it, just because it skews perceptions. Kind of like flying exclusively first class, until you can't anymore. You could try hanging out where people with bad social skills tend to be (e.g. DnD campaigns, gaming lounges/cafes, comicons) Also, read books about it, and try it out with people you don't think you'll meet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 12:02 AM
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At least your honest. Are you black?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:51 PM
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I consider that only a step above hiring prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:37 PM
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Can only have sex after 23 unless they provide something in return (money, food, entertainment, status, etc.) and/or are doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:35 PM
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Only in person. I suck at taking pictures. Also, I'm not white. Racists get scared lmao. Are you saying you only want to date Chad's/Chad-lites?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:32 PM
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That's a very good representation of what I see. The world needs more people like you. Do you use Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:31 PM
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I somewhat disagree. Most people are actually not successful at dating. Those who aren't either only vent online and/or in therapy, or blame themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:30 PM
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Can I see one of those pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:12 PM
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Why aren't they posting there though?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:11 PM
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I think that plays a part, but I think how good looking they are also plays a big role.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:55 PM
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True. Extreme individuality is responsible for so many of society's ills. We refuse to see ourself as part of a society, but have no problem blaming it for our issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:54 PM
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What is your minimum standard for attractive enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:46 PM
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All of those are bad reasons to get married, I agree - thankfully, they are quite rare. Not in my experience. People just lie about them, and shit comes out after the divorce or is swallowed but is obvious. I’m sorry you’re so cynical/misanthropic that you think that they’re significant enough to argue about. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dh4z3u/who_cares
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:46 PM
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They tend to go to Hollywood. The ugly stay in stand-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:33 PM
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It kind of does, at least at first. Betabuxx and settling post-wall are not love or desire. Of course some people are sociopaths and get married for ulterior motives, Not sociopaths, just selfish, short-sighted, and/or greedy. but most get married because they fall in love. Most get married because they feel they have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:23 PM
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Tragedy of the commons. If everyone wants the best, then you become disposable and so much potential is wasted. Also, if I want what's best for myself, why shouldn't I cheat and lie? Why should I ever be nice or give anything I don't have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:16 PM
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Married doesn't mean desired or loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 10:04 PM
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That's not bad take. I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:53 PM
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The problem is that most women say they want 'men' who they trust, 'men' who treat them nicely, 'men' who are funny, etc. They just fail to mention that that man also has to be Chad, and (more often than not) those standards drop significantly, if not outright disappear, when they meet a man who is Chad enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:52 PM
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I wish I wasn't :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:48 PM
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I actually don't have problems dating because my face more than makes up for it. I also where perfume, which helps in person. Online though women tend to disappear when they see the dreaded '5'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:48 PM
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I know. My point is that the beautiful people removed the negativity from that post just by posting photos of themselves. Even those that brag about how good they have it exclusively due to their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:45 PM
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If they didn't only want Chad, my looks shouldn't matter. If you are interested, we can DM. Fair warning, I am not white, and I'm 5'9" Edit: I don't want to be identified with this account.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:42 PM
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I doubt it. People were stating how they don't care if other people died alone etc. And they weren't usually referring to specific people, but general groups i.e. incels, RP, Muslims, Indians, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:28 PM
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With how quickly I've seen the same women drop their panties for Chad, and how they treat him better, I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:13 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dhaxx5/what_do_ppd_posters_look_like_post_pictures_from People are nicer her than in the other posts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:12 PM
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r/foreveralonewomen went private because they kept getting asked out on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:03 PM
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Come to me, ugly women. I will fuck you. If you aren't in my area, pay me half the travel costs and I will fuck you. OP will ignore this because I am not 6'4" white Chad and keep making the same argument about en are hypocrits for not fucking me and other Beckys." Hell, I remember legit meeting a woman here who was a "30 year old femcel" who stopped talking to me the moment I said I wasn't white.y experience isn't unique. Men who aren't 6'4" white Chads are invisible to women and that is why the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 09:02 PM
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Those things are different. So, when a woman says she wants a guy who "doesn't smell" she actually means rich and tall. That part is why you shouldn't listen to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:55 PM
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They need to be funnier than their good-looking counterparts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:52 PM
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Problem is that she will likely seek both
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:51 PM
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Most people can't afford a Mercedes S-Class. They settle for the reliable car.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:50 PM
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If they all taste good, why would anyone go for one that doesn't look good?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 08:49 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/dh4z3u/who_cares
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:17 PM
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That's the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:14 PM
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Iq just almost high enough
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:09 AM
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Most people aren't. Now you have a common cause with the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 07:08 AM
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Yes I know too much about myself and the world to make the mistakes of other people before me. I'm not the most exciting, but I can make women the most content.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:50 AM
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Thank you for your honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:42 AM
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The world needs more people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:34 AM
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u/theHelperdroid Only one who cares about me on here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:19 AM
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It's the cool trick of racist fascists. There's a worldwide plot to destroy their culture so strong and so intelligent that no one can see it, but also by inferior people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:09 AM
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50% of asian women in relationship are in a relationship with a white guy. Not the same compared to asian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:07 AM
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I love you. Fuck you; you're wrong. I love you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:56 AM
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"Why should I care about black people? Why should I care about poor people? Why should I care about the disabled? Why should I care for anyone who isn't me?" If you're not at the absolute pinnacle, you suffer, just not as much as the people beneath you. If you're at the top you stop things fr getting better for everyone. In the RMP/SMP, you become a disposable hole for Chad unless you are a bombshell. Chances are, you'll chase someone so much more attractive than you that you become disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:51 AM
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Or let them sort themselves out, but you won't support legalizing euthanasia. These half measures make things worse than either extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 01:45 AM
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Epic roasts, bro.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/10/19 07:47 PM
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He did, but he also had to be wary of showing that he is proving himself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 11:04 AM
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It's typically when they don't want to feel that they aren't the only source of knowledge.
/r/MensRights05/10/19 02:17 AM
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Your biases May differ, but that does not proof that you do not have similarities of biases with other people. plus, if there is unity of opinion among other people, that means that there is also unity in which group of people benefits. And this case, it would be more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:49 PM
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Well for starters, you accepted the limitations that were stopping you from living the sort of life the guys who were fucking them were living. You made and kept making that choice... to spend your youth doing one bunch of things rather than another. Can you prove that it is always a choice? From your hobbies to the clothes you wore to where you hung out and who you spent time with...after age 18 you chose that shit. That also isn't always a choice. People can be poor, disabled, live in bad area…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:47 PM
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I like this take.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:42 PM
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Blaming others/ being resentful of others is also harmful. so, just got your argument as to why shaming people who feel resentment is fair? You will never be happy with that much resentment in your heart. That's a pretty strong claim. Sure, if people are only feeling one emotion they are also incapable of feeling another emotion at the same time. However, why can't a person feel resentment towards one thing, while also feeling happiness from other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:41 PM
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People who voice their self-pity are expressing shame. Resentment and pity are not the same. They are shaming themselves. They are announcing to the world, "Look how I failed. See how ashamed I feel. Feel sorry for me, like I feel sorry for myself." why does that excuse a negative attitudes towards them? They are not saying, look at my success and celebrate it with me. Yes, people who feel wronged attend enough to celebrate that. They are not even saying, look how I failed, but I learned somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:40 PM
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That says more about you if you see that it is the only way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:30 PM
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That’s on you if you don’t have the balls to try to find out about a woman’s sexual past. So, for most men it is shamed if you do, shamed if you don't. I’ve always made a point to do this myself and, if she’s going to get offended about it, then she’s likely not compatible with me to begin with. That's fair. What about the men who don't really have a choice though?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:29 PM
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I used to feel more guilty about it, and still do at times... But they just had to have a Stacie who's out of their league, or was, and now resent her for it. You know for a fact that that isn't true. You know that there are more sexless men than sexless women. You know that men are more willing to settle than women are. You know that men have lower standards than women do. So I think it's ok to dog them for being pussies. This implies that you are okay with dogging men for being less masculine.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:27 PM
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Yeah, that's why I am worried about telling men that women don't care about muscles. Most men will have to spend the months to look like Chris Hemsworth. Chris Hemsworth have to spend a lot of time to look like Chris Hemsworth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:23 PM
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i think it’s absolutely morally reprehensible to be in a relationship with someone and not care about their well-being and happiness. I agree. Thankfully, nobody ever suggested that. I didn't, and neither did you. I think we also both agree that, in a healthy relationship, both parties must also be happy. Do you hear how incredibly self-absorbed you sound? How can a person seek their own happiness without being self-absorbed? You will never charm anyone with the “me, me, me” attitude. Okay, why …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:20 PM
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Welp, shows me for having any self-awareness. If it sounds childish to you, then it's must be childish. Also, thank you for teaching me that if I express emotions then I am being childish. I am sure when other men read this they will come away with a positive attitude too emotional openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:12 PM
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I've had this argument before. And, while I don't agree with the idea, there is an explanation. The phrase "men should Express their emotions" doesn't mean men should express any emotion. It's means that men should express feelings that, according to them, are socially unacceptable to express. It could also mean emotions that are healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:10 PM
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So not only do you blame her, you blame the culture and all other women too. Yes, I think it is natural and logical to assign blame to the responsible parties. Have some agency. It's not a choice between the two. I can identify how other people have influence over me and the society while also still maintaining agency. If it's harmful then find a better way to cope with your failure that doesn't involve blaming your surroundings. If it is harmful. That part is debatable. Plus, sometimes realizin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:08 PM
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So, instead of engaging in the discussion, you choose to make a few irrelevant points and expect them to be shocking enough that I stop responding. Your attempt at the Grand gesture and condescending tone may make you feel righteous, but it's just hurts your ethos.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:02 PM
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She is at least somewhat responsible if she is part of a culture that has led to the current circumstance I find myself in. Plus, she is not owed anything from me either. Don't you think that's being resentful to oneself is harmful?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 08:28 AM
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That's only true if you think the present isn't affected by the past. In order for this dichotomy to exist her choices must have affected his life. Her choosing to share her happiness and adventures with a selected group of people that did not include him, has left him liking meth experience. Plus, he will never experience that kind of fun with her, as he does not have that type of relationship with her, or any other woman for that matter. Further, she likely would not have participated in that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 08:17 AM
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There's no shame in feeling that way. I know I wasn't invited to the vast majority of crazy parties but I wasn't crazy about the ones I actually went to either. So I do get missing out. Well, then how do you feel about the shaming that often occurs in society. Also, there is a difference between being invited to a few parties, and not having anybody want to be with you. On one hand you're 32. You still have time to go nuts if you want to. Fuck some hookers and get wasted if you want to. Get some…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 07:50 AM
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I just want to respond to your last paragraph. How do you know you can change minds without testing the waters?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 07:45 AM
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I'll try to make your comments relevant. How would you feel if you heard that the man broke up with a woman because he feels angry that she got to have so much fun while she was young, and he didn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 07:44 AM
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I think it is fair to shame people for engaging in silly, self destructive behaviors and beliefs. Do you believe that resentment is self-destructive and silly? Do you think it is fair to harm someone who is already harming themselves? And what change would that be? Depends on what you care about. It could be as simple as changing a company's policy, and it could be complete social and political reform. Having every person on earth be born to wealthy families and never having to work for what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 07:41 AM
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In the case of both economics and dating, I think the phrase "water isn't a big deal until you don't have any water" is a good response. It depends to the extent that you are rich, or how many people find you attractive. If you could find a partner every month, then more partners are probably not going to make you happy. However, if you could only find a partner after you reach the age of 32, you're likely to feel like you missed out. You're also likely to feel that the world has treated you unj…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:56 AM
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I like this take. However, what about the case were assumptions were made? Remember, we live in a culture that does somewhat shame men for asking about a woman's body count. Also, what about in general? As in, is it okay for a pwrson to be resentful for other people having more success in the dating market than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:51 AM
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You're comparing "an austrian woman being raped for ten years" with feeling a little jealous you couldn't get laid? No, I am not. I am using that example as a response to your claim that happiness comes entirely from within. "People who naturally react" they have to do the mental work to learn how to get out ahead of their thoughts. Everyone has some mental work to do. Do you think it is better to react positively to every circumstance, then to react differently based on the circumstance? I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:49 AM
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I'm not really interested in helping them through that. Then how do you expect men to change their minds, and swallow the blue pill? You are clearly stating that you are not interested in helping them. The red pill is stating the opposite. Maybe those men should get some therapy for their self-esteem issues? Not only is this problematic as it frames therapy as something that people who are broken go to, but it's also presumes that people who who have these feelings are only having them due to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:15 AM
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Why does this keep happening? Why do people talk about what to the woman should do and how toxic the man is instead of addressing the question? I am asking weather the response to men expressing those emotions is fair or helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:11 AM
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Are we talking relationships or casual sex though? Both. They are often correlated. And do black women think that black men are less attractive? OR, are you talking about white women because that's who every race pines for? lmao There are multiple shades and ethnicities of people in the world. The only demographic that finds black men attractive is other black women. However, every other race rates them as very much less attractive. It is especially relevant when white men view black women as mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:10 AM
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People can shame anyone they want for anything. No one can control what people think. I'm not arguing that. I am arguing whether it is fair to shame people for thinking, or expressing certain things. I would argue that most shaming is just people expressing jealousy or virtue signaling anyway. I'm curious. What do you think that people who shame men for the scenario I stated above are jealous? I would agree with you that someone shouldn't "shame" you for being envious about circumstances, but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:05 AM
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What a cop out. I obviously was not being literal. Then why do you refuse to engage in the experiment? If you think it's stupid, at least tell me why. Resentment in interpersonal relationships is pointless. Do I need to make myself more clear? Stop bringing in completely inane counterpoints that do little to relate to the topic at hand. I think it's relevant. Interpersonal relationships are very much influenced by society and culture. I bring up those examples to show the very concrete ways peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:01 AM
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But what you're actually talking about is demanding an individual's time, emotions, and body. All boundaries and rules are fair game in those regards. You're trying to negotiate the non negotiable. Nobody is demanding anybody else's body or time or emotions. We are simply discussing weather it is fair to shame people for feeling negatively that today have less access to those than other people. Especially in the context where they are shamed for breaking up with a woman for supplying all of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:49 AM
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I agree, that those emotions can often come as aggressive. However, I think that those reactions can also come from men not having any other more socially accepted way of expressing those feelings. weeping makes them less masculine, and therefore less attractive. And calm statement of fact has them accused of being entitled, and they are often portrayed as claiming that women owe them sex. not to mention the bombardment of helpful advice that make it to seem as though that their issues are entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:40 AM
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Happiness comes from within. Thoughts create feelings. There are certain environmental factors which will cause you to feel things, and it's up to you to sift through that contrast. The science really disagrees with that. Money, social standing, physical health, and other things do very much have an effect on your happiness. Unless you would like to think that poor black disabled people are choosing to be unhappy. Let's do a thought experiment, would you say that to the Austrian woman who was ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:36 AM
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Yes if your a black male. Like wtf man? You've got the big dick meme on your side. What more do you want? Yeah, you might be suspected of committing crimes but at least that's masculine. "Being white" is seen as a bad thing while "being black" is what people think of as having swagger now. There are many things wrong with this. Much more that is missing. I would like to focus you on one point though. the data is still shows that to most women think that black men are less attractive than white m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:26 AM
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I see your point. However, I think it is easier and more productive to have a conversation about to the ideology rather than the people who follow the ideology. I believe that it is only one step removed from insults. Unless, you are talking about the people from the perspective of the effects of the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:24 AM
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That's the dumbest fucking hypothetical I've ever read. If you think it is extreme, then tell me at what point does happiness become a choice and when it isn't? It's a thought experiment. Who cares if it is fair or not. That's literally what the post is about. Plenty of people care, because plenty of people have felt those feelings and felt ashamed and invalidated for having those feelings. Resentment is pointless. Resentment brought the French revolution, and democracy throughout Europe. Whethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:23 AM
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Well, I'm referring to people who I am aware will never achieve my level of success. Whether I just due to genetics, socioeconomic background, there are other factors. I'm not talking about the productivity of being resentful. I am talking about whether it is fair to shame people for being resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:19 AM
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Why does it have to be tracking down with you? Can't you simply see you in the system as unfair, and that you should both benefit equally? What if you worked for her? Imagine you making the money millions upon millions of dollars, but since you are not the owner of the company, you are only making $75,000 a year. You're aware that the only reason that they have what they do is because you gave it to them. Also, imagine you are told that the reason you are unable to achieve the level of wealth th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:17 AM
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Social status. It's also about being validated. if I have learned anything when it comes to relationships, is that it doesn't really matter if the person has good reasons for feeling the way they are feeling (though examining that can be helpful), as validating them turn off and make them feel better then simply dismissing those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:13 AM
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But why do you think it is fair to insult that man for having those feelings and insecurities? Aren't those feelings simply natural? What's if the genders were reversed?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:11 AM
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Yes, because women are perceived as less dangerous than men. And for good reason, usually. Consider this: Yes, because whites are perceived as less dangerous than blacks. And for good reason, usually. Don't forget that the same perceptions that affect minorities also effect men (in the justice system)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:10 AM
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And why can you not have fun? Anyone can go and make fun for themselves. Is that's completely true? As a thought experiment, would you say that the Austrian woman that was abducted and raped by her father for more than a decade was only unhappy because she chose not to be? Greed and envy are two things that make people miserable. Why wallow in it when you can go maximize your own happiness in a way that you see fit. The post isn't about weather being resentful, greedy, or envious are productive,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:08 AM
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Who was stopping you from having the fun? YOU are in control of your life, your emotions, your decisions. How does having a negative emotional reaction benefit you? Look, emotions are just our GPS system to tell us if we're on the right path or not. You have to know what you don't want (via negative emotions) to know what you do want. How can you very confidently assume that happiness is completely unrelated to environmental factors? is it fair to say that black people are less happy than white …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:05 AM
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While women are attracted to physical appearance more than they would like to admit, and even society-at-large would like to admit that, they are also attracted to success. Therefore, if a man is perceived to be more successful in his thirties, he is also more likely to be perceived as attractive. Betabuxx could also be a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 05:00 AM
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-A lot of red pillars are also conservative. However,the red pill and conservatism are technically separate, though there is a lot of overlap. -They blame women for chasing after men they find attractive and not considering the possibility of pregnancy and the stability of the father. There is also the scenario where the man who has impregnated a woman not paying any child support, but some other fool is responsible. Obviously, this is not always the case. -They statistics that say men cheat mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:55 AM
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I'm thinking more of a situation where a man is already in a relationship with what he assumes a low n-ount woman, and find out if he is wrong. There are opposing views over whether that is affair reason to break up? It could also depend on how he finds out, why she has such a high n-count, what is considered a high n-count, his own n-count, and the type of men she slept with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:43 AM
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I realized most women have a very different definition of muscular than men. are you sure you are referring to the size of the muscles, and not the body fat percentage? Is Chris Hemsworth too muscular? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:36 AM
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What's makes you think you are not affected by implicit biases? Even if you are an exception, what makes you think that there is not very strong agreement among the others as to what being attractive is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:12 AM
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Again, the science disagrees. There is very strong uniformity among what is considered attractive. People who say they don't discriminate based off of race, looks gender height and clothing often do, even when they are not intending to. It's called implicit bias, look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 08:34 PM
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First, if you’re actually asking me for a pity fuck, the answer is “no”, Internet stranger. LMAO. Attack a person's character, and assume bad intentions in order to make people less inclined to agree. But I’m assuming you mean this for women in general. In which case you’re not getting the analogy at all. You are not actually offering a PBJ to someone hungry; you’re trying to convince someone to eat a mystery sandwich that might be a PBJ or it might be made of cardboard (not satisfying) or might…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:08 PM
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You're missing the point. I'm telling you why men aren't believing you. All you're doing is explaining more. You think that you are misunderstood. You are very well understood. It's just that nobody agrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 05:56 PM
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So you're saying they can't simply play "pretend" with "Trans-Women"? Who's pretending? There are also various degrees of transitioning. I e. Some have penises and some don't. Hey, WAITTA MINNIT! Are you suggesting that "Trans-Women" AREN'T [quote] "REAL WOMEN" [unquote]??? Why, you "TRANSPHOBE"!!! I think attraction is irrelevant to that.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/10/19 05:57 AM
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Men aren't solely defined by their penises. Men have body hair, facial hair, deeper voices, wider shoulders, narrower hips, etc. Dildos just feel good because they go inside. Vaginas can't go inside other vaginas.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/10/19 05:23 AM
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I’m explaining a cultural movement to try and expand men’s rights and improve men’s health, and you’re having a tantrum because you don’t want a penalty for punching Sheetrock. You're further proving my point. I am disagreeing with that movementon the basis that this is not being genuine with the words that says. It's implies a lot without saying it. It attempts to avoid being called hypocritical by saying that the words they said don't mean what people think they mean. Here I am, expressing fea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 03:05 AM
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I’m pretty aware of my biases. What are they? If you were you'd notice that both your male friends are attractive. With my female friends I notice I have a wider range of men I put in the average category than them. A lot of men I think of as average or attractive they view them as ugly. So overall, I don’t find a lot of men exceptionally attractive but I don’t find a lot of them ugly either. Most men fall in the average range in my eyes. That makes you the exception that proves the rule. You sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:37 AM
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Depends on the shooter, but many of them admit that they've had previous sexual encounters, or that they are unsatisfied with the women who are attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:32 AM
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I know you've explained it. The problem is that you're being disingenuous. Or, at the very least, you need to use a better phrase
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:31 AM
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Except I really am not and I have no idea what gave you that impression. Are you assuming this must be the case based solely on my gender? Sort of. The data shows what it shows. People aren't aware do their own biases. No matter how much you want to say "I'm not racist," it doesn't change the fact that you associate black people with violence and being uneducated. You tell yourself that you don't think that, but when you aren't thinking about it, that's the assumption you make. Implicit bias: lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:31 PM
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They’re not invisible to me though which is what I kept on saying. It's the equivalent of white people taking implicit biases tests, and denying the results by saying "but I'm not racist." You aren't aware of your own biases. Which is normal, and okay. Pretending that you are above them is not though. I only have two male friends. They’re both attractive imo. They have nice skin, good hair and are in decent shape. Doesn't that make you think? The article you linked said that men were going for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:03 PM
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Exactly, I believe that the Democratic party is riddled with problems, but they are better than the alternative, and Bernie is not likely to run as a Republican.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:31 PM
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I see them everyday. That’s how I know. If they are invisible, you cannot see them. How many male friends do you have that you would consider to be attractive compared to those who are attractive. Close friends only. No acquaintances. Which I why I kept saying it’s not a matter of my personal preferences. 99% of society happens to have the same "personal preferences." Do you mes more women are rated as 8+ than men ? Exactly. If so doubtful. There’s fairly clear cut thresholds for all the numeric…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:30 PM
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Men find the average women to be a 5/10, women find the average man to be a 2-3/10. The 80% of women are being considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:14 PM
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Those men aren’t invisible to me. How would you know? Men and women who are 8+ on the attractiveness scale, the things I see them get other people to do is mind-blowing. More women are rated as 8+ than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:49 PM
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Most of the food I guess it's too much for me to ask you to try a peanut butter and jelly sandwich
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:48 PM
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TIL science is not real
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:46 PM
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I agree that Democrats have issues, but they are not equal to Republicans. They also have a Bernie. No one is saying not to pick a third position, but when having to choose between those two, the right choice is obvious. Plus, alwàys staying center will guarantee works for the more extreme because no matter the parties stand for, you will always choose to be in the middle. You kind of have to compromise if you want to get things passed that need more than the majority, if you are worried about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:43 PM
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So, the phrase "express your emotions" actually means "express emotions which I believe that society deems it unacceptable to have or express." That addition is what makes the previous statement misleading. That's one of the main differences between the red pill and the blue pill. the blue pill blames men for not being able to express other emotions, and shames men who express feelings of anger and frustration as infantile, immature, and misogynistic. The red pill follows through, and does not d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 09:37 PM
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Flaws with strategy are not the same as flaws with ideology. If one side is ineffective at helping oh, the solution is not to empower people who are effective at destroying. Plus, the problem with centrism is that it leads to your Obamacare statement. if ignores the fact that's a lot of the problems with Obamacare are because Democrats were forced to compromise with Republicans. And, the way you phrased it leads me to believe that you are in fact on the right wing, but are using the guise of cen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:32 PM
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So, are you attacking me because you disagree or because I'm mentally ill?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:29 PM
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They might have had opportunity for sex, but they are also mentally unstable enough to shoot people and sometimes that can limit getting laid. That's a very broad generalization. Also, when I say "have opportunities to have sex," I mean being pursued and wanted. They voluntarily choose to not have sex. That negates the "in" in "incel." I agree it might be more them rallying behind the the title It is because incel is viewed as anti-liberal. So, right wing extremists are more likely to adopt the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:13 PM
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You've proven my point. "Expressing our emotions" is not a request to express our emotions, but to express the right emotions. It is an attempt to reshape men's perception and behavior. It is not an attempt to simply make it more acceptable for men to express the emotions that they are currently experiencing. It is a misleading statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:10 PM
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One side wants me to stop existing, the other wants to tell me how to exist. Those aren't equal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:03 PM
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Welp, many do describe themselves as incels, but often times they appear to have had opportunities to not be celibate. However, I see the problem with them being impassioned by that title.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:48 PM
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Yes, nobody here is arguing whether they have the right. The conversation is of whether they have made the right decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:39 PM
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Exactly, the things that frustrate men are different than the things that frustrate women. They're allowed to express sadness, regret, loneliness, fear, but only if it comes from a source that portrays it as the man's own fault. They're also only allowed to express it in ways that are deemed socially acceptable. The issues that's men face that stem from society, and women, including things about being mistreated due to their heights, femininity, lack of success with women, are not acceptable com…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:38 PM
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I think a higher proportion of women would, because women are not expected to be rejected, and violence from them is more accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:34 PM
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So, you think that every time black people talk about police brutality, somebody should talk about how they need to work on accepting gay people first?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:34 PM
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Are you confident that they actually are, or do you think they are just labeled that? Plus, is it a random sample, or was it a deliberate search for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:32 PM
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r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:30 PM
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That's it doesn't make their decision right
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 07:26 PM
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it's the equivalent of saying Islam causes terrorist attacks, because some people called themselves Muslim and committed acts of terror
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:16 PM
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No problem, I know it's not a statistics, but I notice it enough that I always ask if the "creepy loner" rhetoric is based on fact. In my experience, it often isn't. It's usually white supremacists, and that's why people assume it's incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:15 PM
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Show me a popular post that supports violence
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:14 PM
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Pointing out hypocrisy is not the same as hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:13 PM
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Is that what you took away? I was talking about how the "men's space" talked almost exclusively about non-male related issues, but you took that as me having a problem with the acceptance of others. It's the equivalent of going to a black lives matter protest, and then saying the conversation should be about how there needs to be more acceptance of gay people. You don't have to be against either to realize that the issue does not belong in that space.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:11 PM
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I have no problem with white liberals disagreeing with the opinions of a person of color or other minorities, I have a problem when they do not engage those arguments, and dismiss them as "token"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 02:45 PM
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It may have come off wrong. I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 12:10 PM
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Again, you are focusing on the minority who happened to have trouble with women. The Texas shooter, for example, had a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 12:09 PM
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There are no studies that I am familiar with, but looking at profiles of shooters typically shows fairly popular shooters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:06 AM
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The vast majority of men won't do that though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:04 AM
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That ignores the fact that the vast majority of shooters are actually very popular, and have no trouble getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:31 AM
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braincels was essentially the little kid that cries about nobody loving them because they're ugly. Incel tears is essentially the "helpful" teacher that thinks the best way to deal with this is to tell them to man up and realize that they are being bullied for not being a good person. And that everything that is wrong with how they are treated, is inherently their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:30 AM
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Their "advice" is usually useless and is aimed at making women feel better. It rarely addresses men's real issues because it refuses to acknowledge that men are different. Not to mention the fact that it avoids talking about how the feminist movement has hurt men, especially men of color. I have many friends that I can talk to about my feelings, but I recognize that I am lucky. Most men don't have that, and even my female friends who are open to talk about feelings won't admit that sensitive men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:27 AM
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I wouldn't go that far, but white liberals can definitely be racist even when they don't want to be
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:23 AM
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Ah yes, the "men's rights" space that is filled with posts about LGBTQ rights, women's rights, and how men can be better to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 10:09 AM
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Not always. Sometimes you silence people to prevent violence. Not saying it is in this case, but I don't want ISIS sharing videos online
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:51 AM
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Excellent job of dismissing the efforts and beliefs of people of color as "token." You can't come up with a good argument that the RP is racist, so you become racist yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:50 AM
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If you are assuming that the men having trouble dating are more white than non-white, you have some privilege to check.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:49 AM
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I'm a liberal (closer to leftist), but I'm still pretty RP/BP. Theredpill wasn't pro-violence in any way, it shouldn't have been banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:48 AM
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Depends on what you mean by won. Everybody is still unhappy, suicides will still go up, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:45 AM
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People don't stop getting frustrated just because they are silenced. Hell, most mass shooters are popular dark triad types. Incels are most likely to kill themselves. But we have to signal our virtues
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:43 AM
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The "anti-hate" train shutting down male spaces is proof that the whole "men should express their feelings" is a myth. Anything that frustrates you is your fault, and the only feelings you are allowed to have is to cry over not being allowed to paint your nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 04:39 AM
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You could say that, but you have to willfully ignore all data that proves the opposite. Pretending that both sides are the same is the r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM of the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 06:53 PM
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They have an image and status to maintain
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 05:28 PM
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They do, they just want it from a very small subset of men and they only want it to go one way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:34 PM
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Your question involves false assumptions. Nobody has mentioned pressuring for sex. It is only when they are searching for a mate that their extremely high expectations lead to harm for both sexes, even though it hurts men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 04:33 PM
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"If men didn't let dirt build up in their folds, and stopped slapping their moms, they would be able to get laid more." "You guys don't want change because you have fragile egos." basically all attempts at blaming men for the current state of the SMP and RMP
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 03:14 AM
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Yes, unattractive men are either invisible or creepy. Women don't realize the biases they have against men because every claim they make is following an unstated "in reference to men I find attractive."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 03:12 AM
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Or a racist, remember Emmett till
/r/MensRights28/09/19 04:59 PM
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It's cool that you want to bring new ideas, but the reason I was pretty aggressive, is that a lot of these ideas have been brought up before, aren't that to you, and they have been thoroughly debunked. women judge the attractiveness of a man they haven't met, using his income as a metric. They aren't waiting to find out how much you contribute, and / or how he picks up the slack in other ways. They just think more money equals more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 08:35 PM
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As it stands, the men who are not out-earning women are playing video games and "hanging out." Source? It sounds like a straw man that women use to justify their attractions that don't fit the "woke" narrative I'm willing to bet a man who is a compassionate, hard-working stay-at-home-dad would be HIGHLY sought after. More conjecture Just a thought. :) That's not just a thought though. That's a lot of conjecture and assumptions presented as facts. It's a weak attempt at reframing female attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 05:45 PM
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The three points you made below are why men need to start spinning plates. How long should go for is up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 12:44 PM
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Say what you said here to him. If he's not a complete dolt, he'll try to work on it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 08:50 PM
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Again, the facts disagree with that statement. Your perception is skewed because the men who aren't very attractive are invisible to you. So, when you do the "calculations," you discount the bottom ~80% of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 04:22 AM
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You just need to be attractive enough to date. You think an equal % are from men and women, but that's because most men are invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 02:53 AM
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Men rate most women as average and will ask them out. Women rate most men as unattractive and will not date them. Therefore, women have more access to pretty privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 01:54 AM
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"I can definitely handle 3 weeks with no water" -Person who has never been thirsty
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 01:26 AM
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It's more like the difference between a person who can't afford good, healthy food (women), and people who can't get any food. Both are big issues, but one is much much worse than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 01:12 AM
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80/20
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 01:04 AM
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Tall girl (movie)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 12:30 AM
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Women are going for short, socially awkward, poor, ugly, and/or ethnic men. Where are those women? I will sell my kidney to live there immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 11:28 PM
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Couldn't have said it better myself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 08:36 PM
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True, but there are plenty of men you can convince to get married because they are desperate. Nobody wants desperate though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 05:31 PM
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You are assuming that the guys these women are going for are the same men who can't get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 03:51 PM
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only “ugly” or “fat” chicks give them a chance. Pure projection. Also... In many cases, get a better personality and shower more is terrific advice. Then why doesn't it work? If you have terrible hygiene and are a raging jerk with no interests or hobbies to speak of Baseless assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 11:57 AM
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Those men will be glad for a chance to date anyone. And, men don't lie and tell women to "get better personalities," and "shower more," etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 09:15 AM
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The thing about people like that is that they will never change that perspective. All it takes is one person saying it onetime and they will not latch on to to forever. The only thing that will redeem you in their eyes if you stop fighting for men's rights.
/r/MensRights02/09/19 06:43 PM
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I said for that one specific man. From a purely selfish standpoint, why shouldn't he?
/r/MensRights02/09/19 06:42 PM
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Not men's righta victory, but for a man in that position, it might be the only victory.
/r/MensRights02/09/19 04:22 PM
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While I think that does happen, it's not the cops' job to make that judgment without examining the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 02:47 PM
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This says more about you than Chads. It's the equivalent of a German in 1938 saying "I don't know what you're talking about. Hitler's been nothing but great to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 04:16 AM
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If it was rare, an entire AUDIENCE in THE VIEW wouldn't feel comfortable laughing. What makes this group of women different from others? Do you want more examples? Will they change your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:47 PM
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Google disparities in arrest an incarceration rates. There are too many sources that study different aspects for me to bither looking for them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:46 PM
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1-Would this hold for racial inewualities in crime? 2-Women are getting away with robbery ala cardi b. They are getting away with "sexual trysts." And they are getting away with "cracking from an abusive realtionship" which leads to their children dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:52 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:08 PM
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Why are so many women are confident enoguh to laugh like that, if it wasn't commonplace? If that was a problem, why did nobody say anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:07 PM
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That sounds absurd, but I showed you evidence of it. And this is a very popular talk show, with very popular people. Yet, you still claim it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 10:32 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. Rich white people are getting away with crimes, but we are targetting all men which doesn't solve the issue, and only creates another divide.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 10:24 PM
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If men are responsible for the failings of women, why not the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 10:23 PM
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That's not what I claimed. I claimed that men do not have support or even sympathy, and that women aren't innocent either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:05 AM
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I think rather than framing it as a men vs women issue, maybe it’s be better to acknowledge that the issue is strictly a male issue. Can women never be wrong or evil? Your suggestion seriously infantilizes women. Plus,it is cruel to everybody who has ever been hurt by women. This is exactly what we want to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:04 AM
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ I don't recall a single genre where there aren't several examples wherr male prison rape isn't comedy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:00 AM
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I have yet to see that happen except in stand-ups that are no longer popular. Heck, James Gunn lost his job because he made jokes that could be misconstrued as jokes about pedophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:50 AM
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Would you deny the rape and sexual harrassment can make a woman's life worse? No, but I advocate for the prosecution and punishment for rapists. The fact that you talk as if every accused man is an innocent victim and don't understand why #metoo caught on speaks volumes. The fact that you assumed that's what I meant, and that you implied that every accused man is guilty speaks volumes. If you actually cared about #metoo, you'd know that it helps far fewer people than it hurts. Are you okay with …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:49 AM
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The reason people don't talk about rape because they don't care about the underprivileged (black people and the poor). Being laughed at is worse though because it means your lack of justice isn't a lack of awareness, it is a lack of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:45 AM
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I think you've been seeing it. You just weren't noticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 03:06 AM
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Would you deny that at anytime accusations can make a man's life worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 03:02 AM
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My ancestors were migrating traders.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 03:00 AM
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https://youtu.be/kkmanLIAdXI All very popular women, not counting those in the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:45 AM
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The prison rape joke is very common. Also, nobody really says men get raped polmont so there is no real way to have evidence of people laughing at male rape. However, there are plenty of clips online of women laughing at men being beaten by women, or being severely tortured by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:36 AM
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Some men would laugh in private. Most women laugh on TV
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:29 AM
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Africans were responsible for killing many of my ancestors (who were traders). I guess I should ask them to deal with the overcompensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:25 AM
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If a woman were to accuse me of rape in the US, my life would be over. If a woman were to accuse me of rape in my country (a "patriarchal" ME country),I would probably be dead within the week. The way I see it, you are the one who is privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:22 AM
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If black people were less terrible, everyone would have a better view of them. You could fight for meaningful change but instead you complain about mean and truthful words.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 09:20 AM
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If the average man did this, then why di men averagr 7 partners over a life time? Why are ~30% of them not having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 04:27 PM
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As a person raised as a Muslim, I don't believe this seeing as Mohammad personally only killed a cew number of people, and I feel like I would have remembered that part. However, as a person raised as a Muslim,I want to believe the idea of the Chad Muslim killing the Virgin Kaffir and taking his wife
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 06:46 PM
2

Danny Devito is just as much if a chad as Channing Tatum?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 12:38 AM
3

What of she was complaining about not being able to find a bf?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 05:13 PM
1

Fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 12:25 AM
1

Does that mean a brojob is straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:34 PM
8

Knowing you can kick peoples asses if they piss you off. Do you think there are no consequences for that? That's only a real advantage if you're a really really big dude, and only being violent against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 04:54 PM
2

Upin rereading, the article, I see your point.
/r/PussyPass21/07/19 08:59 PM
5

She would be arrested for locking herself in a car to avoid rape?
/r/PussyPass21/07/19 08:55 PM
7

Switch genders
/r/PussyPass21/07/19 06:19 PM
5

Perfect material for r/menkampf
/r/PussyPass19/07/19 04:45 PM
1

Without appropriate controls those studies show that attractive, wealthy, and charismatic people are happier than those who are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:48 PM
1

You're making a huge assumption in that women are automatically contributors to the marriage, and making an even bigger one when assuming they contribute equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:47 PM
2

That's the equivalent of saying "oh great, now we have to hear how to raise our kids from the people without kids."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 06:33 AM
12

Even if that was the case, most men are not men "historically." They are men "contemporarily," as are the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 10:05 AM
1

Source?
/r/PussyPassDenied08/07/19 01:33 PM
1

r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 11:32 AM
1

r/short
/r/MensRights03/07/19 08:35 PM
1

I agree. I just wanted to point out that this sub shouldn't be dedicated to that.
/r/MensRights03/07/19 06:49 PM
3

Unfortunately, (for good reason) no one wants this sub to turn into a "feminists are bad" sub. I think we need to show how most feminists are worse than they would like us to believe, but I still think this sub should focus more on what rights men need. I realize I posted this, but I don't want it to be a regular thing. We coukd create a separate sub though.
/r/MensRights03/07/19 06:46 PM
9

You say that, but making a profile of a handsome guy with the bio "I want to fuck" Got me more matches and agreements to meet up in a day than actual me did ever. >inb4 women who exist on tinder don't also exist in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:19 PM
1

I know a fee people who are pretty buff (not cut) but work out pretty minimally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:47 AM
199

I have a personal reason to hate metoo, and it isn't because of a false accusation. It's because when a friend of mine was abducted and raped by a college professor, they did nothing to help because he wasn't a celebrity. All they do is use rape as a political tool to take down undesirables rather than help actual victims. Especially when ot hurts powerful people that they don't want to hurt. Or especially when it hurts supporters of metoo (like the professor was.)
/r/PussyPass01/07/19 01:21 AM
4

Hard to tell because some people are jacked naturally and others are skinny but use enough steroids to look "normal".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:23 PM
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If it was about women, would you also reject it? I find that people (bloops especially) typically reject any idea of men being victims of any kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:41 PM
1

Who lied to you? I don't believe the people of TRP have been lied to in any mass traditional sense of the word. You are either lying or live in a very different world than the rest of us live in. Visit the blue pill at least. In my own experience anger isn't the reaction I have had to being lied to either, it's just been a lot of "why?". Really? You've never been promised a promotion and then not gotten it due to nepotism then gotten angry? You've never been cheated on? You've never ever been li…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:01 PM
1

It's possible (and recommended) not to feel angry. But anger is the natural reaction to feeling lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 02:54 PM
1

That's why I said it is the reaction from society that is unequal. The act itself isn't easier on women though.
/r/MensRights29/06/19 01:07 AM
1

In all cases I think they are equal. Statutpry rape affects both sexes the same way. As does use of force or coercion.
/r/MensRights29/06/19 01:06 AM
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I disagree with the judge. Rape is equally horrible regardless of gender. The reaction to the rape of men is much worse than the reaction to the rape of women.
/r/MensRights28/06/19 05:48 AM
3

I see, my bad
/r/PussyPass27/06/19 01:27 PM
14

That looks like a fake tan to me
/r/PussyPass27/06/19 10:31 AM
5

Also a revelation to people who believe the media, the schools, and the culture. edit: also a revelation to people who believe what women say
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 07:32 PM
2

98% match rate NAWALT!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 07:22 PM
5

It proves that there is "doing something right" to attract women. You can be a racist jackass and still get laid. Believing that you can woo a woman is a waste of time. Spend no time, effort, or money pleasing a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 07:20 PM
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It proves that you should behave selfishly. Because your relationship success is almost entirely removed from your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 07:18 PM
1

You're complaining right now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 11:52 PM
1

Stop complaining, nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 09:16 PM
0

You are the epitome of the modern relationship. You're trying to win by caring the least. You've managed to straw mans people's positions, ignore the actual issues, and add nothing to the discussion, except that you are so cool because you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:11 PM
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This a relationship and sexual dynamics forum. Being aloof is just a bad attempt at trying to appear above it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:24 AM
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Racism & sexism are wrong powers for good.
/r/PussyPass20/06/19 11:57 PM
9

I want to know what these women tell their inevitable shorter than 6' tall children when they get passed over for someone taller or even bullied because of their height.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/19 07:43 PM
1

That is true, but at least it is possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 03:29 PM
1

Yep. I think the men's approach is better (assuming fairness and honesty).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 09:30 PM
1

Incomplete anecdotes. Just like the "90%." They have pletny of issues that aren't PC to address.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:01 PM
1

Not true. It is possible to learn to love. I've dated women that weren't my first choice. When I'm with them, I'm still hally and never sought an upgrade.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 02:06 PM
1

None of them use evidence. They all use emotional and ethical appeals
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 02:03 PM
2

1-Find 6/10 dude with no luck with women. 2-Go out. Be flirty, but not too promiscuous. 3-Lock that shit down. Or: 1-String along Betas. 2-Find and fuck Chads. 3-Marry richest Beta who thinks that he is lucky to have me. 4-Continue to search for more Alpha Chad cock. 5-Divorce Beta at earliest convenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:12 AM
2

They always say that that happens. And they don't have to point it out because it's been poimted out already, but you never actually make any good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:06 PM
1

I think you replied to the wrong comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:05 PM
3

So full of holes that nobody can say what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 03:46 PM
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Because when it comes to women's choices, the signs are much more obvious. Most men aren't Chads. And men have the ability to fall in love, whereas women can only pursue tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 02:59 PM
3

See the difference between BP & RP/BlackPill. You can only offer ridicule and shaming tactics. They provide experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 02:55 PM
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You could go for guys that not all the other women are throqing themselves at, but I guess dying alone > no tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 02:50 PM
1

You know exactly what he meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 12:33 PM
5

My best self isn't my true self. You still get the same problem you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 01:03 PM
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I'm not proud. I hate it, but it's my only successful strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 07:37 PM
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"My true self" is a depressed lazy asshole with no spine and an edgy sense of humor. Being yourself is cool advice if yourself is attractive. Women's bs detector is a myth. If it was, I wouldn't be able to fake a personality (and sometimes a life and name) to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 01:34 PM
1

Why do people whondisagree with TRP always resort to offense?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 02:39 PM
1

I don't see the practical difference, though. LTRs require much investment. Those men do not want to invest much. The difference is that the guys were never going ro commit to anyone anyway. Women "commit" as long as there isn't a better option. A guy will commit eventually, and stay. Even if he cheats, he will still want his prinary. A woman will not stay loyal ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 02:16 PM
1

That makes me think he lost because he overplayed his hand. Because before then he had you with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 02:12 PM
1

Never said they would. I'm explaining why it's bad. A heroin addict won't stop doing heroin because I tell them to, doesn't mean it's good for therm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:20 AM
1

The vast majority of men are mediocre. Your dad and current SO are mediocre. I may sound like a hippy, but if you can't be happy with mediocre, you can't be happy. There will always be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:20 AM
1

Did he ever act on that power?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 05:18 AM
1

How did he have power?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 03:14 PM
1

Theoretically. They aren't usually great because most people are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 04:43 PM
1

Men do it too, in the case their women demand exclusivity. That's nkt monkey branching. That's wanting different things. Men are more likely to pursue multiple partners, that's true. However, men who are into "harems" are not really much into LTRs. I think those men are inti LTRs, they're just not good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 04:42 PM
1

It is today. The weird strategy is still better than the bad one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:44 PM
2

Dude, there is no "proof" here - you didn't provide "proof" either. My proof is an induction argument. Habits. What is it you're expecting? I don't know. I'm not on your side of the debate. If I knew of a gokd argument against my position, I woukd state it. I do not think you are per se going to be a bad partner simply because you do not exclusively date someone one at a time. I don't think it's a bad habit, there's nothing that I've ever seen regarding some sort of diminishing capacity for "pai…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:43 PM
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Nobody owes anybody anything. That behavior makes for a bad long term partner. Women are free to become bad partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:18 PM
2

Thenjit is a really weak rebuttal. You sinply refuted the claim with no proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:17 PM
1

Exclusivity =/= LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:13 PM
2

When i say "you" I am referring to the collection of women who date multiple people at once. I believe that your attitude affects your ability to pair bond long-term because it builds a bad habit. What is your rebuttal? (Other than "nu uh")
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:11 PM
1

You will never have the ability to "truly" know someone. I still learn new things about my parents and they're my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:08 PM
1

Nobody owes anybody anything. That's why I suggest for men to keep those women as sexual partners only. Women are not owed men's feelings or commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:06 PM
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You're redusing to look at things long term. Your attitude right now will never change which makes you a bad long-term partner because you will always be looking for the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:05 PM
1

From a short term, economic point of view,you should do this. It it will affect your ability to pair bond, and most guys don't want a relationship that depends entirely on them being the best option 24/7/365
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 06:02 PM
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Date one person at a time. If you don't like them, you stop dating them. That way you have to consider what you're losing from the guy you're dating currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:03 PM
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Just because that is how things happen now doesn't mean that is healthy. It also doesn't negate my claim. Men and women aren't the same, though men also shouldn't do it. Women monkey branch, men build harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 05:01 PM
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Because that tendency to "see what is out there" will never disappear. Even after marriage and kids. She will not see you as an attractive option, she will see you as a good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 04:46 PM
1

This js the natural conclusion of all BP debate. BP argues that RP doesn't work. RP shows that it does work. BP moves the goalposts to "that won't work if you want a real relationship," etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:11 PM
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No, it is an interpretation and it's very reasonable to assume that many red pill men who say AWALT really mean that only women are like that, Because typically, they are discussing female traits. even when it comes to traits that men also have (like hypergamy, defined as "seeking the best mate that you can get"), Not the defintion of hypergamy. Hypergamy is the willingness (and desire) to abandon your current partner should a better option present itself. given all the disgusting rants that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 02:09 PM
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Another person commented how depression is a lack of meaning, which stems from a lack of goals (in summary it's laziness manifested) He must be a great dude. That isn't what depression is though. I've tried helping him in any way possible but he doesn't want to make things better for himself having all the answers in front of his nose. Yep, sounds like depression alright. With our history and how he acts, I'm starting to think it's attention seeking behaviour and manipulation tactics. That's wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:46 PM
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You say it's vague. Tell me how it can be more specific. More than one interpretation exist, but they are not equal. One is defined by the people who use it, and more accurately fits the words. The other is a defintion that is not what people who use it (usually) intend, strips it of everything except for the one that paints the people you disagree with in the worst light possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:28 PM
1

He will have major issues, he will get nothing more than sex. That is all he wants. Mission accomplished. RP works.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:20 PM
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Choosing to act interpret things in the most charitable ways is not objective It's less of an interpretation as much as it is the actual meaning. I fail to see how it can reaonably be interpreted any other way. I know it is. I am arguing against those who pretend that it isn't and act like many red pill men totally don't mean AWALT in a very disparaging sexist way, acting like men don't have their vices as well. When I mean mysoginy, I mean the prejudice against women. Which you have to have if …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 01:19 PM
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It would be cool to see a study that had actors behave the same way, but with different heights just to see the outcome.
/r/BlackPillScience29/05/19 08:09 AM
1

True, but that's a problen with anything going mainstream. TRP itself has not changed. I disagree with third-wave feminism being TRP for women. It's a political movement, not a forum for advice (the the two tend to overlap). Nobody on TRP is saying TRP dictates who you should vote for or going on protests. I'd even say being honest about being RP can be against RP philosophy often.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 07:50 AM
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It's not just not objective, Where is the subjective part of the statement? it's outright dangerous. Plenty of actual misogynists slip through the cracks Newsflash. TRP is mysoginstic. It discusses why treating women as equals and doing what they ask will lead them to lose attraction to you. It is not interested in helping women in any way. It is only interested in giving men the same power over them as women have over most men. if you're just going to assume that all that AWALT talk is mostly m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 07:44 AM
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How is “women treat men poorly when men are losers” not specific? How much more specific can it be? You keep using the words "charitable interpretation," but it also sounds like you only accept the worst interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 07:34 AM
1

There you go. He can probably find another girl who is in the same place as you were. He might not be looking for a long-term "fulfilling" relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 07:31 AM
1

I should have been more specific. Towards men who end up in bad marriages (that aren't necessarily abusive).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 07:28 AM
1

Didn't say you were. I'm just saying that the less women a guy should try to date a woman with the least experience possible is because he will not simply have to be a "good" bf, he will have to be better than the ex's, while also dealing with her frustrations from previous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 07:27 AM
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Inb4, studies aren't real life Actually, inb4, no response
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:29 PM
1

He already pulled you, didn't he? What makes you think he can't pull someone like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:27 PM
1

He only want 60 more people to do what you did, and he'll be set for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:26 PM
1

I agree with your rationale, I'm just curious as to why you can't extend the logic towards men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:13 PM
1

Only if you're white. To asian women, you are the branch swing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:09 PM
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Idk if it's relevant, but you provedvthe issue with high mileage women. The RP strategy to prove AWALT is to just let them talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:01 PM
1

Most
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:56 PM
3

It seems to me be's making it very specific and you're boiling it down to women hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:42 PM
2

Nobody is preventing women from having their own RP. The RP in it's current form exists to help men, it will not spend time with helping women get men or explaining male behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:06 PM
5

To be fair, it could also be that the less satisfaction/commitment that leads to perceiving the bf to be less attractive.
/r/BlackPillScience28/05/19 07:48 AM
1

In the meantime, what should he be doing in his relationship? Depression doesn't go away after two therapy sessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 05:17 AM
7

Why did you break up then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 03:07 AM
5

He obviously does, but the other women in this sub behave the same way, do we all have bad realtionships with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 03:04 AM
5

Women are different than men = women are a different species? Are women attracted by a guy wearing lip stick?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 03:02 AM
0

To me, that shows how only the kibd of depression that is sexy is allowed. What should he do if he is sad and depressed 24/7?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 02:48 AM
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OP, this should tell you why you can't have a lasting relationship if you open up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 02:40 AM
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Depends. If you want to guarantee that the relationship lasts, don't tell her. If you want to risk your relationship in hopes of maximizing its emotional benifits, tell her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 02:34 AM
4

Sounds like he understand the dating market place better than she does. Trans girls are way easier than bio girls.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/05/19 11:12 PM
1

Rather than debate that, I will bring the conversation back on topic. Did anyone ever say that to you in real life Are ads not real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 08:20 PM
2

How do people find these cool rocks?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:55 PM
3

Have you seen the Gillett ad?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 05:07 AM
2

Links?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 01:53 PM
1

I'm pretty sure RP has actual science as well anecdotes. BP only has the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 03:13 AM
1

I'm arguing against the comments that I'm responding to, obviously. And they were referring to the OP. Ignoring context of words only weakens your argument. BP? Who or what is BP here because you're definitely not referring to me. 1-Then whatever your philosophy is, it is useless. 2-Are you an enlightened centrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 06:24 PM
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These aren't memories, these are facts of life that I have experienced. So, memories? First of all I'm not sure how "borderline mentally handicapped" can be worked on, I meant looks wise. t he more important point is that the rest of the things I mentioned were not worked on. Exactly, genetic determinism. Browse this sub more. these dudes are the type of ugly which you cannot fix. But you also said had quite literally teeth falling out of his mouth, showered once a week, lived (and still lives) …
/r/BlackPillScience24/05/19 06:22 PM
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I find this hard to believe because of a very simple fact of life that I have believed in since my teenage years, which is: anybody can get laid. Memories are unreliable. I say this because I've personally known dudes who were borderline mentally handicapped, had quite literally teeth falling out of his mouth, showered once a week, lived (and still lives) with his parents in his mid-30's, and was able to get himself a girlfriend or two, and get down to business. Notice how you never mentioned ug…
/r/BlackPillScience24/05/19 08:06 AM
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IT WANTS TO HELP PEOPLE! Also IT: Kill yourself you myohinistic loser. I bet you don't even shower and are a parasite on society.
/r/BlackPillScience23/05/19 09:17 PM
4

You obviously understand that that is impossible to do. I know absolutely nothing about you other than 2 personality traits that you listed from a myriad of personality traits one can have, and the fact that you dress fashionably. I do, but what Idon't understand is why nobody I know (male or female) an pinpoint why I can't get a date either. Women can't figure out why they're "just not into" me. But if you believe that you have characteristics that should enable you to find romance, people tell…
/r/BlackPillScience23/05/19 09:15 PM
1

How am I "misinterpreting what people are saying" when I did not read nor care about what other people here are saying? ​ So, you're arguing against people without even reading what people are saying? This is an example of why BP is a failure. It only leads to "I don't care about any issues or any of you, therefore, I win the argument." It is incapable of fixing issues or responding to criticism due to it's incorrectness. ​ Did the OP make that statement, or did someone else in the comments make…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 04:17 AM
1

“Some people here are saying something different so you must be wrong” is fallacious thinking. Not what I'm saying. I'm saying your arguing from a place that inherently misinterprets what people are saying. are you sure that you aren’t just perceiving shame from it? "Calling sex a need sounds like an addiction. Junkies say they need the drug and obese people say they need junk food." The word "junkie" is a derogatory term.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 03:51 AM
5

Impossible. I must be a secret rapist. so secret that I don't even know it.
/r/BlackPillScience23/05/19 01:53 AM
1

K. So what? Then your argument is fundamentally flawed as you are making false assumptions about what the argument actually is. How so? Explain. The OP clearly shames people who pursue sex. Especially those who can't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 06:26 PM
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Then explain my issue. Why can't I attract women even though I've been described as funny, well-dressed and charasmatic. I realize I'm humble bragging, but all those features never translated to getting laid. People always tell me I'm doing something wrong, but they can never say what it is. Women would always tell me that any girl would be lucky to have me, but never them. Nobody entertains the idea that I'm not doing anythibg wrong rather, I am something wrong.
/r/BlackPillScience22/05/19 03:43 PM
1

> That is nothing less than responsibility avoidance cranked up over 9,000 ​ That's sounds exactly like what every privileged group has told those that struggled in every period of history ever. ​ > The fact is, in most jurisdictions, a woman can report "stalking" to the police and the police will very likely do something, up to and including getting a restraining order. ​ Not the case for men. ​ None of what you said addresses my two claims though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:27 AM
1

Society, as cliche as it sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:20 AM
1

how do you differentiate seductive from creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:20 AM
1

> That's personal obligation and unconditional love. Sex is neither of those things. ​ Yes, but it is not a need. Every argument you've made in order to shame people about having sex can be made about saying you *need* to feed your kids. The only difference is who suffers. ​ > Because that's a legitimate problem. ​ So is lack of intimacy. ​ > Money is a means to an ends to fulfill needs. ​ So is sex. ​ >Sex is just there to fulfill desires. ​ Incorrect. As I and others have stated before, it ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:11 AM
2

For the most part, when people are defining a "need" without specifying what it is needed for, yes. ​ That's not how people here view it. ​ Irrelevant to the topic. ​ " I find it creepy when people say "Sex is a need"." ​ " Calling sex a need sounds like an addiction. Junkies say they need the drug and obese people say they need junk food. " ​ It appear very relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:06 AM
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Like there is healthy food and unhealthy food, there is healthy sex and unhealthy sex. There are ways to make and spend money, some are healthy and moral, and others aren't. That doesn't make money any less valuable. Your argument is the equivalent of Jeff Bezos saying that money isn't a need because it's just numbers on a screen, and that you shouldn't revolve your life around it. You would be right, but that is willfully ignoring the things money allows you to do. You can ignore all the benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 07:04 PM
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That's like saying food isn't a need, but nutrients are. You are technically correct, but sex is the standard way of satisfying many of those needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:39 PM
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I'm specifying what a need is in order to further the discussion. Is need simply what is needed to be alive? If something is not a need, do people not deserve help in pursuing it? Should they be shamed for doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:38 PM
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Satisfies social need. I dont need to fuck them. At least we agree that needs aren't simply what keeps us alive. A DESIRE Yet you don't shame people for wanting it, or complaining about not having it. A means to an end. And sex is a means to satisfying their end, which is the need for social acceptance, belonging, self-esteem, and pleasure all rolled into one bundle. In a way that often can't be satisfied without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:36 PM
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Still not a need. Depends on your definition of need. You don't need to feed your kids,and yet... Either way, that That doesn't mean people should stop pursuing ot. That doesn't translate to the right to sex. Nobody said it did. That's my biggest problem with stating "Sex is a need". It sounds so entitled to say that. Just because you don't like the way it sounds doesn't mean it is any less true. It also doesn't make it any less of an issue. If somebody told you that they wanted to pay off their…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:18 PM
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My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:10 PM
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I like to use the example of Emmett Till. False accusations are super rare, does that excuse what happened to him? Do we allow it to happen again?
/r/PussyPass20/05/19 03:41 PM
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You don't need money to survive. Why do you look for more of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:38 PM
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You don't need friends. Why do you have them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:37 PM
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You don't need friends, you don't need the internet, you don't need a job, you don't need to even think about the question you are asking. Yet you still do them. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:36 PM
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"You don't need money to be happy." - Jeff Bezos
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:34 PM
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Can it really be fulfilled without sex? The single most important factor is being single divorced for men committing suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:33 PM
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If you're having sex without the purpose of procreation, you're just filling a desire. We fulfill our desires to make life worth living. People have the right to ambition and happiness. Don't you do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:31 PM
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Then is it not an issue if people go insane with weaker immune systems and bad cardiovascular health because they are in confinement? After all, they have all the things they need to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 03:30 PM
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I see your point, but I do hate female penguins.
/r/BlackPillScience16/05/19 08:51 PM
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He only refutes the possibloty of there being one guy who reproduces with all the women of his age. He doesn't consider that 20% of men reproduce,whule the other 80% don't.
/r/BlackPillScience16/05/19 08:50 PM
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Too late lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 05:37 PM
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Tbh, I think both people do this, but women subconsciously, with good reason, think that they won't face consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 04:30 PM
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I'm in the same boat as you, except I still try because they're my friends. I've yet to convince them until the inevitable happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 04:29 PM
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Yeah, I like r/braincels and r/blackpillscience. The latter should stay scuentific.
/r/BlackPillScience13/05/19 03:05 PM
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Plenty of askreddit questions prove his claim. While, by no means absolute, it is better than what you brought forth to the table. You're comment isn't an academic paper, but that doesn't mean that we will ignore the need for evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 03:58 AM
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It's more likely that the condom broke and you just never realized it. When they break, it's not dramatic and semen doesn't burst after. You only realize it if you check.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 03:56 AM
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It could be stolen, condoms could break, women can lie about being on bc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 10:46 PM
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You have no evidence for your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 10:45 PM
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They are. Women are told to not date Chads with spotty histories, and they do anyway, the criticism of single moms is a criticism of absent fathers. However, the absent father has no reason to listen to us as he has much to gain, the mother loses. Granted, they don't listen anyway and make the samle mistake and are surprised when the same thing that happened to other women happens to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 10:44 PM
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You don't have to. Why are you here if you don't care?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 04:34 PM
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That's not how people work though. They will just get depressed and/or angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 06:15 AM
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It is becomibg worse though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 06:14 AM
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Yeah, not to mention all the straw we have to clean up after them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 06:04 AM
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More just world fallacy. Also, if you're just an asshole who doesn't care about anybody's issues or even want to help, why come to a debate sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 05:59 AM
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If anything ever bad happens to you, it's because you never tried hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 04:55 AM
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Which is the one that's supposed to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 07:03 PM
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They weren't raised with the idea of no matter who/what they are, and how they behave/look, they deserve and should only go for ULTRAGIGACHAD 3000 with a trust fund and should never settle for anything else while simultaneously not improving themselves or offering anything. The boom in hookup culture also leads to women giving them sex, which means that their choice of mate never pans out, because ULTRAGIGACHAD3000 realizes that he can have all the options and choices in the world with no need (…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 03:02 PM
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Rape won't because that's not related to sexlessness. The person who is most likely to raoe is the person who feels entitled to it; the person who is already getting plenty of it. Other forms of violence will though. Murders, shootings, roberries, arson, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:08 PM
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Just because it's a circlejerk doesn't make it any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 06:05 PM
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What is his strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 05:26 PM
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I've gotten plenty of (unsolicited) compliments on my body. Still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 04:01 PM
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You've taken my point into consideration... I don't know what to do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 05:09 PM
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You say that, but you've proven to care a lot about tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:24 PM
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The bottom is 80% of the male population. The bottom of the bottom is about 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:21 PM
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"I'd really love to talk to you about racial segregation Dr. King,but you soubd really better and angry, so I will keep the laws as is."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:20 PM
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There are systemic issues, no doubt. Mostly to do with police incompetence/laziness. The two issues I'm highlighting are: 1-Culturally, there is desire to make women safe. Not the case for men. 2-The assumption (that you just made) that women are the main victims of such crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 08:33 AM
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