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Do you know what grates me about these posts? It's only this prominent because she's female. I get it, it makes us feel like the message is getting through...except, what's the message that we're trying to deliver? That it's not your character or the content of your message, but your identity that matters? This girl isn't saying anything any random person from within these boards hasn't said 1,000 times. Then again, this is where the problem is. We look to women for validation: 'a woman has said…
/r/MensRights14/06/17 12:49 AM
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What is the issue with any of this? No-one in the MSM has any concern invoking 'white' as a pejorative term and, whether you agree with him or not, there's nothing innately distasteful about his perspective on sex education. As for his perspective on LGBTs, the entire progressive - anti-liberal - world fawned over Fidel Castro for weeks (a raging homophobe who put homosexuals in-front of firing squads) and nobody blinked an eyelid (I wonder why that is? ie, they couldn't actually give a crap abo…
/r/MensRights09/06/17 04:20 AM
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He didn't lose his seat.
/r/MensRights09/06/17 03:35 AM
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I hope so. The concept of education and politics always interests me, it's as if the progressives - who are far closer to fascism than either the 'left' or 'right' - are blissfully unaware just how educated National Socialist Germany was.
/r/MensRights28/05/17 09:16 PM
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Thanks, but it will go down like a lead balloon. Most people don't want to face up to what they're fighting and progressives have spent decades in academia, the MSM and political institutions propagating racial profiling, bigotry and inverted xenophobia in the name of 'progress' and 'morality' (despite lacking any moral code to speak of other than 'everything is justified if it aligns to our political objectives') The truth is, it's far easier to stick your head in the sand, pretend it doesn't e…
/r/MensRights28/05/17 09:04 PM
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Here are all the arguments you need. I posted this in another thread, however the underlying point is you'll keep losing for as long as you focus on the symptoms (feminism) rather than the disease (progressivism, which is anti-liberalism, ie, anti-individualism): If you want to win, heed this call: stop just fighting feminism and start fighting progressivism. It's all the same thing. You aren't fighting feminism, what you're really fighting is Being treated like a collective and being forced to …
/r/MensRights28/05/17 03:01 PM
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Oh, WAKE UP. If you want to win, heed this call: stop just fighting feminism and start fighting progressivism. It's all the same thing. You aren't fighting feminism, what you're really fighting is Being treated like a collective and being forced to assume collective responsibility for the actions of your 'collective' the inconsistent application of morality and ethics between collectives (collectives which progressivism - which is anti-liberalism - has defined on our behalf) the legitimisation o…
/r/MensRights28/05/17 01:21 PM
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What are you talking about? No, it doesn't. However a man can be sexist to another man in a multitude of ways, eg, telling him to 'man up', as a means to make him conform to his standard of masculinity. What are you talking about with 'hard labour work'? Where have I even written about the nature of his work?
/r/MensRights27/05/17 08:03 PM
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If a government attacks another country then all sorts of innocent people are going to die. That, in turn, is going to cause a desire for revenge. This should be painfully obvious. So again, if you're interested in stopping terrorism you should demand that your government stop participating in it. The same is true of the Muslim community. We aren't being attacked by a sovereign government - we're being attacked by terrorists. I thought this much would be painfully obvious. So, I assume, by your …
/r/MensRights27/05/17 07:48 PM
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My argument is quite simple: we aren't collectively responsible, we are individuals. You want to label it as incoherent largely because you don't want to argue it. Your 'rant' would have the world living by the principles of eye for an eye, as is the case with most moral relativists. What is a decision to attack western civilisation if not a moral argument? What is deference to a justification - 'we did it first!' - if not a moral argument? The whole thing is a call to morality, even from their …
/r/MensRights27/05/17 07:23 PM
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Read my posts above and below, that's the last thing I'm doing. I've actually stated 1. whether it even matters if it's sexist and 2. going around accusing everyone of racism is a terrible idea I simply disagree it's not possible for men to be sexist towards other men.
/r/MensRights27/05/17 05:06 PM
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Sexism isn't a person, it's an act. Sexism isn't filtered by the identity of the perpetrator or victim. It's just as logical to suggest anything perpetrated inwardly - towards people of similar biological characteristics - isn't valid, or a legitimate crime. Is violence really violence when it's white on white or black on black? Is murder really murder when it's female on female? This form of moral relativism is what is corroding society from within - a principle is only a principle when it's ap…
/r/MensRights27/05/17 04:37 PM
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How am I projecting?
/r/MensRights27/05/17 02:09 PM
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True, but does it really matter? The problem with accusations of sexism is they are rarely ever about sexism. They are about taking an isolated incident, extrapolating the identity of the perpetrator and the victim then projecting it onto humanity as a whole (in this instance 'all men' and 'all women', in another instance 'all white people' and 'all black people') to score a victory. This accusation, for example, isn't about sexism, it's about scoring a political victory over feminism. I can see…
/r/MensRights27/05/17 01:46 PM
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It may take a village, that doesn't mean you should blow it up and force its will.
/r/MensRights27/05/17 11:36 AM
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Absurd. Eye for an eye? I tell you what, based on your logic - we're all collectively responsible for the actions of everyone else - I'm aggrieved that people like me, white Europeans, were enslaved by North African Muslims for hundreds of years under the Barbary slave trade. How many Muslims do I get to blow up? More to the point, millions of black people were enslaved by Muslims under the Arab slave trade, how many Muslims do they get to blow up? In fact, a white person was killed by a black p…
/r/MensRights27/05/17 09:27 AM
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What? I know I'm interfering with the hyper-sensitive baying mob here, but it's not racist - dehumanising? Possibly. Sexist? Maybe. But racist? No. You really should be a lot more careful flinging that accusation around, in fact, as far as I'm concerned, people who falsely accuse others of racism - or anything else which carries a penalty of social exclusion - should be treated just as harshly as genuine racists. People have killed themselves after being falsely accused of racism; more to the po…
/r/MensRights27/05/17 08:57 AM
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Because 'men' - particularly 'white men' - is the only remaining label in society people can be openly bigoted towards; it's wholly socially acceptable. The sad part is, we think we're a secular society - we aren't. Identity is our religion; that and 'love.' It didn't used to be like this; it's all ideology. It has infected our minds and the true enemy of men isn't feminism, it's identity - it's the inconsistent moral framework which filters all truth by the identity of the perpetrator or victim…
/r/MensRights23/05/17 08:08 PM
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What does not wanting to be 'abolished', or subject to government interference into what ethnicity a group of people is entitled to, have to do with 'white supremacy'?
/r/MensRights22/05/17 06:17 AM
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The mere fact you even think it's within your power or remit to 'abolish' biological characteristics of people I find abominable. What right does anyone, let alone a government, have to determine whether anyone else has a right to a skin colour or ethnicity? Human beings will always find difference, and that difference will always be exploited for nefarious ends. If it's not 'race', it will be something else.
/r/MensRights22/05/17 06:12 AM
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From the paper: "Experientially, though, I'm a feminist because I have personally run into incredible discrimination, my whole life has been organized around fighting, being devalued because I'm a woman, it showed up in family life...and then in the work force, you know, continually," This is where these movements went wrong. It points to deep levels of self-indulgence. They don't want liberty, they want a class struggle - against white men. They don't identify as individuals, they identify as '…
/r/MensRights21/05/17 09:56 PM
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Yeah, the fact it's from 2002 is why I highlighted it. 'Whiteness studies' goes back to the 70s, but it's all driven by the same purpose: co-opting identity to draw dividing lines down the middle of society for political purposes. It's important, I feel, for people to understand where this rhetoric emanates from. National Socialist Germany was a very 'educated' place, with the best education system and levels of literacy in the world - it's no coincidence, in my view, that everyone who disagrees…
/r/MensRights21/05/17 09:44 PM
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That's why you'll continue losing - the wider political context has everything to do with men's rights. All we want to do is isolate ourselves in a little silo - as feminists do - and say 'this is a male issue, and this is a female issue'; it's the exact mentality which led us to this juncture in the first place (ie, the exploitation of identity to draw a dividing line down the middle of society between progressives and liberals, and globalists and nationalists). I posted this in another thread,…
/r/MensRights21/05/17 05:56 PM
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It's insane how far it has gone.
/r/MensRights21/05/17 03:28 PM
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It seems to be endemic these days. It didn't come from a source, I just analysed it myself. Go to Google.co.uk and type: site:bbc.co.uk "bongo bongo land" If you review the articles you'll see how often it was accentuated and repeated.
/r/MensRights21/05/17 02:55 PM
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The entire progressive (anti-liberal) system is set-up to pay worship to the religion of identity: it's not what you do (violence), but who you are (female), that matters. The identity (equality for women) is prioritised ahead of the principle (equality) at every turn, and it propagates outcomes - 'black culture' - which would be met by its own calls of a 'return to fascism' with a mere context switch ('white culture') The 'correct' perpetrators - white, heterosexual and male, or 'the new bourge…
/r/MensRights21/05/17 12:02 PM
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Exactly. Lauren Southern is great, as is Shapiro, and Milo. The problem is, the MSM - well, the anti-liberal progressive media - parades everything it disagrees with as 'fake news', or some other form of narrative, and thus arguments aren't tackled, the people who make them are. It's anti-intellectualism on steroids.
/r/MensRights20/05/17 11:25 PM
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It's part of a general pattern in the MSM, particularly as progressivism has exerted a stranglehold on the narrative in the last 20 years. They don't report the news, they describe it - it's adjectives aplenty. They aren't a political party, 'they are a 'far-right party accused of - they can't make the accusation directly! - white supremacy and Islamophobia' (to be accused, they only need to be accused by one person). They also resort to taking minority opinion, and accentuating it. They deem it…
/r/MensRights20/05/17 11:18 PM
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No problem. I'm glad it helps.
/r/MensRights20/05/17 08:57 PM
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Agreed. However, it likely goes well beyond 'discouraging' and veers into 'dangerous.' There's only so long it can be stomached, and if it's brought to people's attention more than it is now, and propagated by nefarious forces, the outcome isn't worth thinking about. I have to admit to being disappointed in myself, in as much as it inspires an innate tribalism in me, and to identify with my own group. For as long as this issue continues to be dangled over people's heads, and continues to be expl…
/r/MensRights20/05/17 08:21 PM
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Is Abhorrent, but not the same thing as drawing up lists, kidnapping people, then torturing and killing them as occurred in eg Pinochet's pro-capitalist Chile. He was directly advised by Milton Friedman. What I believe to be the implication in that statement is a false equivalence. It's a bit like saying because Mussolini advocated the minimum wage he was a Socialist. As for the point about torturing and killing, I believe we're on the road to progressivism legitimising any amount of abhorrence …
/r/MensRights20/05/17 07:55 PM
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I'm not, but thanks for pointing me in his direction.
/r/MensRights20/05/17 07:24 PM
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Perhaps. Again it depends on how we define the term. Modern day "progressives" aren't rounding people up and putting them in camps, as occurred in countless communist and pro-capitalist dictatorships throughout the 20th century. Have you read the OP? Modern progressives are racially profiling and singling out people, based on the colour of their skin and their culture, for opprobrium and social exile. The only difference is it's targeted inwards, not outwards - it's the same principle. I disagre…
/r/MensRights20/05/17 07:14 PM
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And this is how they - the progressives - win, ie, while we're arguing about whether Hitler was socially left or right, or economically left or right, progressives are far closer to fascism than either left or right, and stomping all over the political spectrum. Aside from that, I'm not really disagreeing with you, except on the capitalism point. Ford was a progressive (ie, fascist), he wasn't right-wing or left-wing. Hitler controlled many aspects of the German economy. To call him a capitalist…
/r/MensRights20/05/17 06:38 PM
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Social justice isn't a recent manifestation. It has been spoken of since the dawn of progressivism (the late 19th century), and has always been its stated aim.
/r/MensRights20/05/17 05:45 PM
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Ford was a progressive. He was also a ruthless anti-Semite, and a massive fan of Hitler (the feeling was mutual). Fascism was progressive. Progressivism is both reluctant capitalism (a heavy bias towards market intervention and manufacturing outcomes) and social collectivism, it doesn't belong on a political spectrum (like fascism). Hitler destroyed the political spectrum, as did progressivism. Progressivism, like fascism, is anti-liberal, anti-Christian (Hitler even created his own religion), s…
/r/MensRights20/05/17 05:43 PM
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I can't provide you with any more evidence of my argument than the leading light of second-wave feminism, the instigator, being a communist. There's a good excerpt from a video on second-wave feminists produced by the BBC of all organisations articulating the paradigm I've outlined above (I've linked to the appropriate point): https://youtu.be/sCRohDqWDcw?t=254
/r/MensRights20/05/17 04:55 PM
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Thanks :) It's about the only outlet I have left. Articulating these arguments in public would see me deprived of economic and social opportunities. I suspect we're on the path to irreversible ruin, and the worst part is very few can see it (or care).
/r/MensRights20/05/17 04:49 PM
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That's not actually too far from the truth. "The decisive anti-Semitic book I was reading and the book that influenced my comrades was ... that book by Henry Ford, "The International Jew". I read it and became anti-Semitic. The book made a great influence on myself and my friends because we saw in Henry Ford the representative of success and also the representative of a progressive social policy." Who said this? The Hitler Youth leader, testifying at Nuremberg. Spot the key word: progressive. Pr…
/r/MensRights20/05/17 04:27 PM
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Because this isn't about feminism. It's about a class struggle, and identity is now, and always was, the proxy. It wasn't about women being treated like individuals (liberalism), it was about women identifying as a class with a view to overthrowing white men (overwhelmingly classically liberal, ie, limited governance and individualistic, and deemed the 'bourgeois class') and manufacturing a statist utopia. Second-wave feminism didn't adopt liberalism (individualism), it adopted progressivism (so…
/r/MensRights20/05/17 02:55 PM
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The problem is we've created this little silo for ourselves, and call it 'male problems, in response to feminism.' We've divorced ourselves from the context of the problem: a corrosive and subversive progressive assault on liberalism. I wrote this in another thread, and it applies here; none this will change for as long as we keep misidentifying the problem: What does that [women winning the right to vote] have to do with feminism? That was the women's rights movement, or rather the Suffragettes…
/r/MensRights20/05/17 02:51 PM
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What does that have to do with feminism? That was the women's rights movement, or rather the Suffragettes. In fact, to be precise, it was about genuine liberalism (not progressivism, which masquerades as liberalism but has always opposed classical liberalism). It's why John Stuart Mill, an actual liberal, wrote a highly acclaimed essay entitled 'The Subjection of Women'; if he were alive today, he'd be beyond distraught at the bastardisation of liberalism. Feminism is about social collectivism (…
/r/MensRights18/05/17 07:05 PM
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Why? To be fair, I don't actually care what feminism does to men - that would make me as bad as they are (ie, construing of society as composed of collectives, rather than individuals). I care about what it does to men and women, and society. Feminism is the root of many of the problems we face as a society, particularly in its desire to construe of white men as 'the new bourgeoisie' and any non-white, non-heterosexual and/or non-male a natural 'ally', or 'the new proletariat'. This dichotomy, m…
/r/MensRights15/05/17 08:13 PM
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Everything these people - self-proclaimed 'progressives' - say is racism personified. That we revere them, and give them so much space in mainstream culture, is sickening. History will judge us beyond delusional for allowing these people to rise to prominence, and perhaps diagnose us as suffering under the strain of the sociological equivalent of Munchausen syndrome. We'll be judged the worst of all generations when we succeed in enabling their quest to deconstruct western civilisation under a t…
/r/MensRights14/05/17 08:16 PM
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Let me show you how this works: Male perpetrator, female victim: oppression Female perpetrator, male victim: empowerment White perpetrator, non-white victim: racism Non-white perpetrator, white victim: omitted from record LGBT and Castro: Castro was a hero! LGBT and Christians: homophobic LGBT and Islam: omit from record Xenophobia against non-western states: xenophobia Xenophobia against western states: colonial revenge Black culture: progressive White culture: fascist 'Do we need men?': progre…
/r/MensRights13/05/17 11:21 PM
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And you're reacting just like 'the ladies do'...with righteous indignation. It's a JOKE.
/r/MensRights11/05/17 06:15 PM
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This is the guy who, among others, correctly deemed that progressivism is nothing more than the sociological equivalent of Munchausen syndrome. As someone who despises progressives to the core, particularly their racial, gender and sexuality obsessions, their racial profiling, their inclinations towards eugenics, their love affair with statism and their anti-liberalism, I can't help but hope he's paraded on every stage he can possibly be paraded on. Identity politics is a plague which is tearing…
/r/MensRights09/05/17 10:58 PM
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Thanks :) The sad part is, we could have had it all - we could have been genuinely liberal (limited governance and individualism). I doubt, as a society, we'd ever have been free from identity-based strife, but classical liberalism would have worked. Alas, it's not to be: progressives must control, the state must intervene in everything, and identity politics will be the means to that end.
/r/MensRights07/05/17 09:09 AM
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No, I think progressives exploit identity politics to draw a dividing line down the middle of society between nationalists and globalists. I think they deem, as per second-wave feminism, that if someone is non-white, non-heterosexual and non-male, they are 'the new proletariat', and white heterosexual males are 'the new bourgeoisie'. I think people who believe they can isolate men's rights from the wider political context, turn it into a special interest group and get somewhere without tackling …
/r/MensRights06/05/17 11:37 PM
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Western society isn't engaged in a war against men, it's engaged in a war against white men. It's socially acceptable to be as racist or misandristic as you like towards this group and it's socially acceptable to subject them to 'diversification'. The distinction between 'men' and 'white men' is a vital distinction, as is the distinction between progressivism and liberalism (the former is fundamentally anti-liberal).
/r/MensRights06/05/17 08:08 PM
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Something we'd never say: "those aren't true National Socialists."
/r/MensRights06/05/17 08:04 PM
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I wouldn't. I would convert them to be anti-progressivism, and their entire world view would be changed - and men's rights wouldn't be required, because their wouldn't be an opposing force. Why you shouldn't be a progressive: *Progressivism has always opposed classical liberalism. The former is social collectivism and technocracy (big government), the latter is individualism and limited governance. *Progressivism, as a framework for social collectivists, has always advocated identity politics. I…
/r/MensRights27/04/17 11:01 PM
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It isn't a recent manifestation, it just seems that way (with the advent of the internet). Engels was writing about the oppression of women - by men - in the late 19th century. Whiteness studies departments have been around since the 1960s. Second-wave feminism defined white men as 'the new bourgeoisie' back in the 70s. Marxism has been writing about the destruction of nation-states (internationalism and global government) since the Communist Manifesto, and the nation-state is seen, by Marxists,…
/r/MensRights23/04/17 12:50 PM
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It's a lot easier to just treat and think of women as children. They'll never be consistent, I think they lack the capabilities. It's why so many of them subscribe to cultural relativism, and prioritise security ahead of truth.
/r/MensRights16/04/17 06:46 PM
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Why does anyone need to be 'the most deprived'? Why does anyone gain or lose from someone of their identity gaining or losing? Could you be any more Marxist? How about extending your empathy based upon individuality, not race, gender, sexuality or religion? This isn't a competition, identity politics is merely a means to divide classical liberals to fulfil political objectives.
/r/MensRights19/03/17 10:32 PM
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How about we don't indulge Marxist class warfare rhetoric from the 19th century and simply extend empathy based on the number of individuals who've killed themselves? How about we accept the world is composed of individuals, not collectives?
/r/MensRights19/03/17 10:30 PM
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Class? You do realise feminism emanates from Marxism? Engels was crowing on about the 'oppression' of femininity long before Friedan. Friedan was, naturally, a Marxist. You do realise 'white males' is a class as far as feminists are concerned? They are 'the new bourgeoisie' and women are 'the new proletariat' - that's second-wave feminism in a nutshell. These are the women who deemed all penetration to be 'oppression.' What we need to start talking about is classical liberalism - limited governa…
/r/MensRights19/03/17 10:26 PM
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Yeah, I've been on the receiving end of that, too. It is a bit like the 'I feel unsafe' therefore 'this should be legislated against' argument. Feeling unsafe (not protected from) is obviously markedly different from actually being unsafe (protected from), however this is what happens when politics prioritises emotion ahead of reason.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 11:16 PM
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It really is about time we erect a wall between classical liberals and impotent progressivism.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 10:34 PM
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To paraphrase a famous quote: those who sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither. To provide another, this is from Ernest Bax, 1890: "the bravest and strongest man is as weak as a child against the overwhelming force of the state...any woman can at will summon to her a power no man can resist... the whole power of the courts and the community, backed up by the press and public opinion." It's just another example of statism. Everyone who votes for progressivism (anti-liberal technocracy) vo…
/r/MensRights12/03/17 09:03 PM
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The question was snappy, the answer isn't. The answer you're asking me to provide is a book. It depends on how you define time; if we're talking post-WW2, we could look at mortality rates, redistribution of wealth (we are easily the most privileged and richest generations which have ever lived) and the absence of warfare. This, in my view, breeds apathy and weakness. I believe humanity is wedded to conflict, where it doesn't exist it must create it. The conflict has merely drifted internally, wi…
/r/MensRights12/03/17 06:56 PM
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Why does one need to be better or worse than the other? What's the implication? That because one is worse it creates a preferntial victim? Does that extend to 'men are 6x more likely to be homeless' therefore men are deserving of preferential treatment in the context of temporary housing?
/r/MensRights12/03/17 02:47 PM
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Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. The story of civilisation.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 02:36 PM
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Ignoring the hostile tone, in what way? You may have no apprehension whatsoever about vacuuming fetuses from bodily organs, but I do. She owns her body, she doesn't own life or the potential for life. A fetus isn't her slave to do with as she pleases. Don't want to spawn life? Use protection.
/r/MensRights12/03/17 03:35 AM
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Do you know the part that really sticks in my gullet? The person who wrote this will think they're a liberal. They aren't, they are the complete antithesis of liberalism - they are progressive (ie, anti-liberal). What's worse, everything they claim they oppose they'll be propagating in another context later that afternoon (anti-white racism, misandry, fawning over a homophobic communist, spewing hatred about a western nation-state and omitting Islam from the record entirely).
/r/MensRights11/03/17 10:42 PM
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They question during that video why feminists and MRAs can't work together, considering they both appear to advocate gender equality... ...this alone signifies how little is known about feminism. The second-wave re-framed the entire debate to be about more than 'equality', it conceived of men as the 'new bourgeoisie', it deemed marriage and even penetration to be 'oppression' and it set about convincing women to withhold sex from men by entering into same-sex relationships (and thus make men suc…
/r/MensRights11/03/17 10:08 PM
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What people fail to realise is progressivism (feminism) and social conservatism are different sides of the same coin. One will shame you and kick you into social exile for daring to be a religious or social puritan, the other will shame you or kick you into social exile for daring not to be.
/r/MensRights11/03/17 09:51 PM
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They aren't making decisions about her reproductive organs, they are making decisions about what's growing inside them.
/r/MensRights11/03/17 09:48 PM
1

While this is clearly fake, let's not pretend it doesn't happen on an endemic scale. When educated estimates suggest upwards of 15% of men are raising children which aren't there own, it's pretty evident women are fairly carefree with the truth.
/r/MensRights11/03/17 05:02 PM
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It isn't minuscule. It just isn't spoken of for the same reason everything else isn't spoken of: people are terrified about being deprived of their economic and social opportunities for speaking truth. As for groups, I suspect you'll continue to struggle, partly because many who identify as MRA are anti-feminist as opposed to pro-men, which is a response to the manner feminism operates. Men don't tend to collectivise, nor do I feel they need to - it's merely going to feed the problem (progressiv…
/r/MensRights11/03/17 04:42 PM
3

It all emanates from Marxism. Engels used to write about the 'oppression' of women endlessly (http://www.isreview.org/issues/02/engles_family.shtml). It inspired second-wave feminism's definition of marriage and penetration as an act of oppression, which manifested in the second-wave feminist cult (which was started by a communist, ie, Betty Friedan) entering into same-sex relationships in the 70s to force men into succumbing to their demands, and thus revealing a true inequality no-one dares sp…
/r/MensRights11/03/17 02:11 AM
2

Why then, from the 1960s onwards, has feminism redefined class warfare to conceive of women as 'the new proletariat' and men as 'the new bourgeoisie' (ie, their oppressors)? Men are to feminism what an enemy is to nationalism: 'the other.' The very notion feminism is capable of supporting men when it deems, under second-wave feminism, men to be their 'oppressors' is patently absurd. If anyone cares to doubt this - the exploitation of identity as a proxy for class warfare, which is a primary basi…
/r/MensRights10/03/17 10:37 PM
15

She isn't a feminist, that's just a euphemism - she's a misandrist and a bigot. She's what a modern progressive (anti-liberal) society produces, and deems socially acceptable. Of course, a simple switch of context from men to 'black men' or 'women' would be met by her own calls, and those of her fellow progressives and employer, of 'a return to fascism' (an ideology many of them - progressives - championed in the 1920s).
/r/MensRights10/03/17 10:29 PM
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This is the problem in a nutshell, and so many think it's confined to men's rights, eg, gender. It isn't. The problem is progressivism (anti-liberalism) being prioritised ahead of classical liberalism (individualism). Progressivism asserts society isn't comprised of individuals but collectives; it was established to oppose individualism (classical liberalism) at the tail-end of the 19th century. It holds a firm belief in social (soft) science (most of which it invented), technology and technocra…
/r/MensRights10/03/17 08:52 PM
1

Oh, she's so close she can almost taste it, but she's not quite there. What she fails to realise is feminism is just propaganda - it's about the accentuation and repetition of female victimhood or male perpetration and the omission, contextualisation or rationalising of male victimhood or female perpetration. It's what those of us with rational minds call bias. Weakness isn't a virtue, however it's the fuel which drives most social policy in the modern age.
/r/MensRights29/01/17 01:24 PM
4

THIS is why we can't divorce men's rights from the wider political context. I've been saying this for years, and I'm often subjected to a tidal wave of shame and guilt-tripping - these women were all Marxists and Communists, that's where all of their thinking comes from. Progressives - 'liberals' - have never opposed sexism, racism, homophobia or xenophobia on a principled, moral or ethical basis. It's evident to all with the reading comprehension of a five year old that their 'principled' stanc…
/r/MensRights21/01/17 09:26 AM
1

He needs to destroy feminism, we all do. It, more than anything else, is responsible for the erosion of male rights. It believes in one thing and one thing alone: the erosion of individuality. The identity (equality for women) is always placed before the principle (equality). This leads to the accentuation and repetition of 'truth' (eg, when it's male perpetrator and female victim), and the omission, contextualisation and rationalisation of 'truth' which acts contrary to that 'truth' (eg, when i…
/r/MensRights13/01/17 11:11 AM
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Absolutely sick of the cultural and moral relativism; this would NEVER be acceptable in the context of any other ethnicity. We can argue it's a direct quote, however this would never be accentuated (never mind repeated twice on the homepage) if anyone had said this about any other ethnicity.
/r/MensRights12/12/16 08:04 AM
1

You are such an idiot. Do you swallow this nonsense whole? Find something white supremacist on Breitbart. Do it. You won't. The group which the media has been so very careful to highlight made no proclamation of an association to the 'alt-right', that was of the media's own doing - it's their way, in one fell swoop, to tarnish an entire movement they have no answer to, and they are trying to do the same with 'fake news.' Even if this group of people did make a proclamation of support for the 'al…
/r/MensRights27/11/16 12:04 PM
2

It was absolute nonsense to even associate the video to alt-right. It's a flagrant lie designed to defame and tarnish a movement which is opposed to identity politics. 'Alt-right' was an association created PURELY by the media. Nothing about it is alt-right, and if we're going to start racially profiling 84 million people - the number of people who visit Breitbart on a monthly basis - then we better extend that same courtesy to the left, eg, 'the PM of Canada came out in favour of Castro today, …
/r/MensRights27/11/16 02:29 AM
1

"Point being, I don't want to be associated with Nazi's, Neo Nazi's, or any group that actually "Heil's" at their meetings" Serious question...do you swallow absolutely everything that's sold to you by the media? If you're going to start indirectly labelling me a white supremacist, with respect, you can **** off. Find something white supremacist on Breitbart. Do it. You won't. The group which the media has been so very careful to highlight made no proclamation of an association to the 'alt-right…
/r/MensRights27/11/16 02:17 AM
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Trump doesn't embody the perceived victimisation of women, the MSM and public institutions do. See my post above. If 'saying nasty things' is a barrier to running for political office, then humanity may as well give up now. As I'm sure you're well aware, far worse has, and continues to be said, against men on a daily basis.
/r/MensRights19/11/16 12:18 PM
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Second-wave feminism was spearheaded by a communist. This led to 'the personal is political.' This led to the Third Way, or the amalgamation of far-left social values and right-wing economics, and the destruction, by the political elite, of the political spectrum. It deemed that everyone being unhappy all of the time was better than some people being unhappy some of the time, all in the name of 'compromise.' This led to the disenfranchisement of tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions, of …
/r/MensRights19/11/16 12:13 PM
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Why are we prioritising identity ahead of individuality? We aren't feminists. Second-wave feminism was spawned by middle-class communists; like all class warriors, they wanted to manufacture conflict between identities (except it was no longer proletariat vs. bourgeoisie; to manufacture statism they had to co-opt an identity the purveyors of individuality could never oppose: women. Thus the debate is no longer big state vs minimal state, it's women vs. men, non-white vs. white, etc.). Prejudices…
/r/MensRights16/11/16 01:32 AM
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Betty Friedan, catalyst for the second-wave of feminism https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/may/07/1963-beginning-feminist-movement Yes, she was a...communist. http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/friedan-per-horowitz.html and http://nova.wpunj.edu/newpolitics/issue35/boucher35.htm
/r/MensRights15/11/16 11:45 PM
2

Did he really? What a...that is a surprise, and I'm rarely if ever surprised.
/r/MensRights14/11/16 03:08 AM
2

Thanks but I'm not new to this, I know all of the issues; I argue them to destroy the primary plague eroding unity in society: cultural and moral relativism. The personal isn't political; I'm political, they're personal. They want to reduce everything down to a debate on identity and there are no winners in such a debate, largely because the objective isn't justice or harmony, it's moral and social superiority. We can deal with homelessness, domestic violence, suicide rates, workplace deaths, ed…
/r/MensRights14/11/16 03:06 AM
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I suspect if most women were tasked of living the life of a man for a single week, they would end up in the corner of a room, crying their eyes out in despair. In fact, that's broadly what happened when someone tried it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7kP_dd6LU Male life is solitary. You are responsible for yourself; you are always valued for your utility first and your personhood...2nd, if you're lucky. You're taught never, ever to display any form of weakness. You spend much of your life tr…
/r/MensRights14/11/16 01:44 AM
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This may piss people off, but I'm fairly far-right (which probably isn't what you think it means; it means I'm libertarian and an extreme individualist, which also means I go apoplectic at 'liberal' nonsense) and have always been FAR more opposed to feminism than I have been in favour of men's rights. Men's rights is counter-productive. It should be individual rights, full stop. I appreciate the need to counter-balance the Marxist/feminist utopia rhetoric, which is why I'm behind men's rights as…
/r/MensRights14/11/16 12:51 AM
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It's just links posted to reprehensible articles, most of which no-one who deems liberals are 'nice people' who 'protect' minorities and women will likely have ever seen. They deem they do this out of the kindness of their own hearts, despite the fact they are incentivised and see a huge electoral advantage from flaming tensions between ethnicities, genders, sexualities and religions. As far as they are concerned, and this has been the case since the 70s when middle-class Marxists/second-wave fe…
/r/MensRights14/11/16 12:15 AM
4

We all seem to think feminism exists in isolation. The problem is the complete decimation of liberal individualism, in favour of an insidious cultural relativism which suggests there are no universal truths. We don't assign rights and responsibilities to people - we assign them to groups. The identity ('equality for x group') is always prioritised ahead of the principle ('equality'). It's a form of relativism which reverses every age-old prejudice against a host culture or identity, contextualis…
/r/MensRights13/11/16 08:09 PM
2

I used to be a member of The Student Room, I posted under 'The Citizen Act' (until I got banned for perpetrating the ultimate offence: upsetting people) - I used to tear the place up. It's full of virtue signallers and snowflakes, who clearly have no experience with the outside world. It's all part and parcel of the progressive education system: keep them pathologically emotional and altruistic, keep them voting progressive. In years gone by they went straight into work at 18, and that won't do …
/r/MensRights21/08/16 09:53 AM
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They do. However, I wouldn't call it a philosophy - it's a religion. It's based on religious principles. If 'the patriarchy' isn't a deity, then I don't know what is.
/r/MensRights20/08/16 05:11 PM
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And that would be fine, I'd have no trouble and have no trouble accepting that progressivism is treated as a euphemism for regressivism. However, here's the problem: they are everywhere. Every MSM organisation peddles this rhetoric, including formerly conservative newspapers. Every University is peddling rhetoric on deconstructing the 'white ethnicity', to the point of inciting genocide, and still nothing is done about it (opposing it is deemed 'white supremacy'). Times Higher Education really p…
/r/MensRights20/08/16 05:09 PM
3

The Guardian is a borderline treasonous organisation; it openly and brazenly hates everything - I mean that, it's no exaggeration - about its own country. It's nothing more than a righteous and overtly hostile bully and grievance collector which constantly exploits people's identities to further its own nefarious agenda. It has sought, over decades, to relegate political discourse to a battlefield for moral superiority; a debate isn't a debate for the Guardian until they've eviscerated their opp…
/r/MensRights19/08/16 08:50 PM
1

A false accusation of racism should be as socially toxic as the perpetration of actual racism. A false accusation of rape should carry as severe a sentence as that handed down to someone found guilty of rape. n.b. this isn't a new story. It was originally published by the Belfast Telegraph on 4th April, 2014. She has long since been released from prison. The infuriating part is she wasn't incarcerated for making a false accusation, she was incarcerated for perverting the course of justice. http:…
/r/MensRights19/08/16 04:11 PM
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I believe they otherwise refer to this as 'body shaming'? Progressives really love language control, it's how they enforce their socially acceptable religions on beleaguered populations and make the world conform to their politically correct group think. Yesterday's religious conservatism is tomorrow's 'diversity', yesterday's segregation is tomorrow's 'safe space', yesterday's free speech is tomorrow's 'far-right populism', yesterday's Marxism is tomorrow's identity politics, yesterday's racism…
/r/MensRights19/08/16 02:23 PM
1

Who has Julie Bindel incited? As I posted elsewhere, it was John Stuart Mill who argued articulating corn dealers are 'exploitative capitalists' or 'condemning the poor to starvation' isn't, in and of itself, an act of incitement if communicated through a medium, like the mainstream media. However, it could be deemed incitement if it was communicated outside the house of a corn dealer, in the company of a mob and while the masses suffer from starvation. Julie Bindel is nothing more than a bigot …
/r/MensRights17/08/16 03:59 PM
1

See, you just spoiled it by declaring your own victory ;)
/r/MensRights17/08/16 01:20 PM
1

In what way is Julie Bindell a 'violent tyrant'? You aren't standing on the side of Churchill, largely because Churchill opposed someone who had already perpetrated acts of unprovoked aggression across much of Eastern Europe. Julie Bindell is a bigot with an internet connection, she isn't Adolf Hitler. Your argument get more and more hysterical by the second. Take a long, hard look at yourself, then take a long, hard look at a feminist. I'm struggling to identify a distinction between you both r…
/r/MensRights17/08/16 09:46 AM
1

Remind me never to seek your counsel if I'm in a position where I'm the victim of a violent assault and forced to defend myself.
/r/MensRights17/08/16 09:33 AM
1

Finally, some sense. It really is true that, given enough time, social reformers become the embodiment of everything they oppose.
/r/MensRights17/08/16 09:32 AM
1

I'm not sure it's possible to 'over-think' your right to say whatever you want to say, whenever you want to say it. I do like that quote, mind you. Never heard it before.
/r/MensRights17/08/16 09:22 AM
1

It's dramatic in the extreme to call this 'incitement.' As I posted elsewhere, it was John Stuart Mill who argued articulating corn dealers are 'exploitative capitalists' or 'condemning the poor to starvation' isn't, in and of itself, an act of incitement if communicated through a medium, like the mainstream media. However, it could be deemed incitement if it was communicated outside the house of a corn dealer, in the company of a mob and while the masses suffer from starvation. Julie Bindell is…
/r/MensRights17/08/16 09:05 AM
0

What is this, a persecution complex? Trying to keep men down? How is defending someone's right to say whatever they like 'keeping men down'? You sound like a feminist.
/r/MensRights17/08/16 08:47 AM
0

Good God, now we're getting conspiratorial - we may as well be feminists. Check my extensive posting history, you paranoid idiot.
/r/MensRights17/08/16 06:23 AM
1

I completely agree with you and I have no desire to have her speech suppressed. I'm glad someone does, because according to my comment score the prevailing wisdom suggests we fight fascism with fascism, racism with racism and hatred with hatred. A defence of free speech attracts a negative score count on a MRM board. Who would have thought we'd see the day? Like all social reformers, we become the very prejudice we claim we oppose. The same happened in the 60's. We stood up and opposed racism - …
/r/MensRights17/08/16 05:56 AM
1

If defending free speech is dramatic, then call me dramatic.
/r/MensRights17/08/16 05:51 AM
1

Yes, fight fascism with fascism and racism with racism. That will work.
/r/MensRights17/08/16 05:51 AM
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...by becoming them. I get the appeal, however being a citizen of a liberal democracy was never meant to be easy. Freedom is hard, and it isn't free. Any idiot can control someone, it takes strength to let someone live free. The moment you decide to advocate the values those you oppose use to control you, is the moment you've lost. Feminism will have its day. Today isn't that day, but it will come.
/r/MensRights16/08/16 10:07 PM
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EDIT TO INCLUDE: Bravo, MRM'ers. A defence of free speech has attracted a negative score count on an MRM board. I never thought I'd see the day, but you are now officially feminists. Take a bow. I can't quite articulate how much I disagree with this. 67% of students would ban free speech when it offends minority groups. I find that opinion offensive, however the moment I deem my offence is a suitable basis upon which to ban someone, the quicker I legitimise their view. It's a bit like attempting…
/r/MensRights16/08/16 09:50 PM
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As far as 'liberals' are concerned, men aren't individuals worthy of individual rights, they are the group otherwise referred to as 'men.' Women aren't individuals worthy of individual rights, they are the group otherwise referred to as 'women.' Similarly, white people aren't individuals, they are white people; non-white people aren't individuals, they are non-white people. 'Men' and 'women' are imagined collectives as far as the liberal is concerned, hence why they can project their perceptions…
/r/MensRights15/08/16 07:06 PM
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Cheers for this. Yeah, I spotted that latterly - I just chose that example at random, but the same rhetoric can be found all over their main website, ie, http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2016/04/white-and-male-and-seen-all-over/
/r/MensRights15/08/16 04:01 PM
2

Thanks for this. I'm going to be quite critical, but I just want to accentuate I appreciate the time you put into replying to the post. I'm no fan of identity politics either, but I don't think Bill Clinton, Theresa May, and the majority of these Harvard professors are Marxists. You don't need to be a Marxist to apply Marxist principles (see Hitler, who often aped socialist rhetoric and was a self-avowed socialist). Minority and women's activist groups find a common enemy in the "straight white …
/r/MensRights15/08/16 03:29 PM
4

I think part of it comes down to a lack of understanding of what a 'liberal' is. To many, it means you side with 'black people', or 'women', or 'homosexuals', or against 'men', 'Christians' or 'white people.' That's not the definition of liberal though, that's the definition of Marxism. It's basic out-group (non-white, non-heterosexual, non-national, non-Christian, etc.) vs. in-group (white, male, heterosexual, Christian, etc.) and the conflict is manufactured to enable the nefarious few to cont…
/r/MensRights15/08/16 01:08 PM
5

I'm a big fan of radio 4 Ha, why? BBC Radio 4 is so far-left on social policy it believes Cuba is centrist.
/r/MensRights15/08/16 11:50 AM
1

My God, that woman is screechy.
/r/MensRights15/08/16 11:47 AM
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This isn't a conspiracy theory. For it to be a conspiracy theory it would have to be a conspiracy - you seem to be under the impression I'm outlining something which isn't actually happening, when I'm clearly not. I know it sounds outlandish (they rely on that, largely because they know anyone who comes out with these sources and citations can be forced into self-censorship under a charge of 'white supremacy', a bit like men who argue against feminism are forced into self-censorship under a char…
/r/MensRights15/08/16 11:07 AM
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Impossible to say, largely because you'd have to define 'school' - Universities apply democratic structures, ie, departments, schools and colleges, in budgetary and legal terms, exist independently of each other. However, I do know: There are thousands of these types of journals across hundreds of western universities. A simple search will unearth them. Looking specifically at Noel Ignatiev, the author of the book the article cites, he was employed as a professor at Harvard for a couple of decad…
/r/MensRights15/08/16 10:51 AM
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I appreciate the apology, thank you. I'm not offended by your 'racial slur.' I'm merely arguing: It's socially acceptable to be racist towards white people. Those who advocate this form of racism are those who claim to oppose 'racism' in the context of every other ethnicity. It's hypocrisy, much as the 'sexism' narrative is full of double standards, ie, male-only golf club = bad, female-only golf club = good. Progressives stoke up the same ethnocentrism and tribalism in what they perceive to be …
/r/MensRights15/08/16 08:47 AM
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You tell me, they're arguing it. Condescension will get you really far, by the way. Just out of interest: would you ever refer to someone as 'blackey'? Thought not.
/r/MensRights15/08/16 08:08 AM
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"Mass immigration was never a centrist policy, it has only been deemed such in recent years. It has always been a far-left policy. The 'racism cover' they employ in the context of any person speaking about 'whiteness' (ie, they are automatically deemed a white supremacist) is orientated not around intelligent analysis but shaming and guilt-tripping the nation-states of western civilisation, and for the sole purpose of accruing capital and increasing their own vote shares."
/r/MensRights15/08/16 07:58 AM
5

I've already answered that question in the post.
/r/MensRights15/08/16 07:47 AM
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The sad thing is, few people are aware of how deep this goes. This is just surface-level identity politics. It's spawned by an insidious desire to turn society in on itself and decimate white majority populations; its all about exploiting people's identities as a proxy for class warfare. It almost sounds too outlandish to believe (which is why it works) but it all emanates from academia. Take the world's most prestigious University, Harvard; this is a post on their website about 'abolishing the …
/r/MensRights15/08/16 06:26 AM
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Point 1. She got a job. There's your first step to realising feminism is the biggest load of crypto-Marxist nonsense. Point 2. "Just a bunch of suburban girls who grew up with a lot of privilege who think they know everything there is to know about how to respect another human being while doing nothing but disrespecting them." The striking thing is, she appears to have only just arrived at this realisation. Point 3. "I'm over being told that I'm expected to behave a certain way." The striking pa…
/r/MensRights01/08/16 02:32 AM
2

That's because women don't have issues, individuals have issues. You're playing in their sandpit - the more we become orientated around gender, and categorise the world's populations into distinct groups 'men' and 'women', the more we feed the 'perpetual struggle.' Why? Irrespective of what you do, you're wrong. Someone always defies the gender stereotype - that's all it is, a reverse prejudice - and no two women or men are alike through virtue of sharing common genitalia. It always orientates a…
/r/MensRights03/05/16 08:54 AM
2

You only need to ask one question to defeat a feminist in a debate: do you have anything to say about women which isn't a relative comparison against men? After their negative response, you simply follow-up with: so, what you're arguing is that women are nothing unless compared relatively to men - they have no sense of identity? That's fundamentally regressive. Debate over.
/r/MensRights03/05/16 08:50 AM
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I'm nothing like as optimistic as you are. What's missing from your analysis is a bare, cold reality - hate sells. We're now officially the Buzzfeed generation; we like our headlines to be soundbites, our prejudices to be socially acceptable and our political ideologies to be religious in nature (ours is a generation of theists, all we are is socially acceptable theists). Man-hating feminism is a socially acceptable religion; as is multiculturalism, diversity and equality. All of these movements…
/r/MensRights17/04/16 11:08 PM
6

'Misunderstood', or 'empowered.' Really, she's just a missionary for one of the few remaining socially acceptable religions (which cast a spell, and falsified narratives, over all of civil society).
/r/MensRights12/12/15 12:17 AM
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I've given an absolute mountain of examples in my original thread and I've been accused of providing a wall of text. The examples are self-evident, it's blatantly obvious to a number of people who commented in the previous thread what my point was. Therefore, there should be no doubt in anyone's mind what the point is. Whether people want to see the disease (progressivism and the contextualisation of morality) rather than an endless list of symptoms (divorce courts, domestic violence, custody is…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 12:56 AM
-1

Why are you incapable of seeing the point? It has nothing to do with SSM. It has nothing to do with the specific issues stated, I could have cited thousands of alternate examples to make the very same point. These just happened to be the most blatant hypocrisies. I know you can see the point. Why you refuse to acknowledge it is absolutely beyond me. Rather, you just want to focus on the issues which, as I've reiterated time and time and time again, have nothing to do with the point. You're talki…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 12:30 AM
1

My view that we should apply morality consistently and to all individuals? Not just specific groups of people?
/r/MensRights13/08/15 11:16 PM
1

And yet I'm obligated to accept yours? I've presented an argument. I've reiterated time and time again to you, it's not about the issues, it's about the inconsistent application of morality. Much in the same manner feminism encouraged an inconsistent application of morality to men's issues. It has nothing to do with whether you support SSM or not. Why is it fair women receive positive action for an unequal distribution in favour of men but men don't receive positive action for an unequal distrib…
/r/MensRights13/08/15 11:12 PM
0

You're bringing this back to the examples and issues presented. It has nothing to do with these issues, or my personal viewpoints on them. You may not regard the inconsistent application of morality to be an issue, but from what I've experienced, from what I see, it's the entire problem of the men's rights movement. Progressivism feeds this problem.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 10:00 PM
-1

No, I'm not a progressive, I don't have a perpetual victim complex. I'm not a victim, I just refuse to support progressivism.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:46 PM
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I'm well aware of the American bastardisation of the term. Progressivism is not liberalism.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:44 PM
-1

No. But, in addition to the responses from the moderators, the general response in this thread (overwhelmingly progressive), in the main thread I created, as well as the general response in the other thread (which stipulated feminism is actually a far-right movement) provides a very good indication that it is. I won't stop championing men's rights (even if I wanted to I couldn't, it's my belief system, I may as well try going without oxygen), I'll just stop utilising the label 'men's rights acti…
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:27 PM
0

Well, if you believe morality is applied consistently in the context of men and, by extension, men and women are treated equally in the context of a femine notion of equality, then perhaps you should be here: https://www.reddit.com/r/feminism
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:20 PM
1

The post has nothing to do with mass immigration and everything to do with the inconsistent application of morality by progressives. Mass immigration is just one of thousands of examples people don't want to read or analyse. The inconsistent application of morality is everything, it's the main complaint of many in this subreddit ('society treats women in one manner, and men in an entirely different manner').
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:17 PM
1

It has nothing to do with the issue and everything to do with the inconsistent application of morality and how that morality is enforced to the benefit of only certain groups in society. I don't oppose SSM.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 08:09 PM
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I also appreciate this will be welcomed by the majority (and will likely be accompanied, progressive style, by a torrent of accusations, condescension and insults) - the reaction will be indicative of the political monopoly accrued by progressivism within the men's rights movement.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 07:44 PM
2

Hidden among a wall of text are a number of more extreme opinions that some people may find distasteful. A message to users: read the entirety before claiming you agree and/or voting. That's a direct quote. He construed my opinions as extreme. To be honest, even though it p****ed me off, I was willing to let it go. However, then another thread is started, conveniently just a few days after mine, and then attempts to determine that the sky is in fact red and we should deny all objective reasoning…
/r/MensRights13/08/15 07:39 PM
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Great. But racism isn't right-wing. What do you call 'white privilege'? Nice racism? It's still racism: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. As per my points above, it was the Democrats who opposed the abolition of slavey and the Republicans who favoured it. The left wasn't racist and the right wasn't racist - EVERYONE was racist. Femini…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 08:30 PM
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I don't know what you mean by "Individualism". Do you mean "identity politics" again? But then you seem to be implying it is somehow opposed to Communism this time. Identity politics has nothing to do with individualism. See here: Individualism is the moral stance, political philosophy, ideology, or social outlook that emphasizes the moral worth of the individual.[1][2] Individualists promote the exercise of one's goals and desires and so value independence and self-reliance[3] and advocate that…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 07:58 PM
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So, just to get this straight. Feminists say they are left-wing, progressive politicians propose feminist policies, feminism was spawned by communism (heck, almost every early feminist was a communist, including Betty Friedan), but feminism is right-wing? Are you having a laugh?
/r/MensRights12/08/15 06:16 PM
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What? Are you honestly trying to assert the individualism is a movement of the left? All of the early feminists were communists. Betty Friedan was a communist. They all believed in categorising people into component groups and then pitting them off against the rest of society for a game of perpetual divide and rule. Almost all rabid feminists are left-wing progressives. I've never met a right-wing gender feminist. Ever. Take something very simple: say someone expresses a racist viewpoint. What's…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 05:52 PM
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Just a question. Which side of the political spectrum argue the pay gap exists? Which side of the political spectrum wants to deconstruct society by importing millions of migrants (largely to shore up their vote counts, despite the fact it's played out on the diversity and tolerance battlefield)? The division is manufactured by progressivism - they love identity politics, they love looking at people as a category rather than an individual and they love dividing the population up.
/r/MensRights12/08/15 01:03 PM
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Whatever they are, they AREN'T liberals. That would require individualism, which progressives loathe.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 06:46 PM
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I find that highly ironic. I made pretty much the same points when I looked at it from the other side of the political spectrum and my viewpoints were derided as 'extreme.' Of course it reflects political views, and it feels like another slap in the face. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3g0x6x/feminism_isnt_the_problem_its_a_symptom_of_a/ Why wasn't that pinned?
/r/MensRights11/08/15 06:45 PM
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I haven't read it but I do have it on my bookshelf, so I will give it a read through. Shamefully, I only purchased it after watching Good Will Hunting. I'm afraid you're never going to persuade me to the merits of Marxism. While I don't disagree with your point about divide and rule, progressivism has created the division.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 06:40 PM
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Pretty much everything I stated in my post yesterday: 'it's identity politics underpinned by moral relativism.' https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3g0x6x/feminism_isnt_the_problem_its_a_symptom_of_a/ It's basic group think and collectivism, enforced by shaming and the exploitation of age-old prejudices. It's also a loathing - and I mean loathing - of liberal individualism. To think like an individual, or apply critical thinking, is the precise definition of some social crime. Progressi…
/r/MensRights09/08/15 12:08 AM
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And they say I create walls of text.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 11:33 PM
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That's f*****g horrendous.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 11:25 PM
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I hate to state it guys and girls, but that post highlights a very big problem. Look at the number of comments - 22. There's a feminist author on the Telegraph (Radhika Sanghani) - well, there are a few actually - who frequently drags in hundreds of comments for a pro-feminism piece, largely from p****d off males who are sick to death of the double standards and moral relativism. Yet, there's next to nothing, in mainstream circles, when it's about advocating FOR men's rights, rather than operati…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 05:22 PM
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It's pretty clear this place is turning into something - cultural Marxist - which my post last night highlighted. Absolutely no tolerance for differing versions of morality (and that comes from someone who's in favour of SSM) and no insight to understand that their version of morality is just as bigoted when placed within another context. So much for liberal individualism, eh? The subreddit has become a place which is moral relativist by default, and that's not on. It's the very definition of in…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:38 PM
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Of course that's what he means, but the progressive baying mob who feel the need to lynch everyone who fails to express outright devotion to their version of bigoted, collectivist, narrative-driven morality, have downvoted him 13 times.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:36 PM
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Can I ask, am I allowed to be in favour of SSM and be opposed to the sanctimonious manner in which the progressive movement forced SSM upon people of all varieties, and from all backgrounds, largely through shaming and the exploitation of narratives like 'homophobia' and 'bigotry' (when, in reality, 'progressive' bigotry is just as apparent when you place the morality which underpins SSM - people should be free to marry whoever they choose - within the context of incestuous marriage, something m…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:22 PM
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This point should be emphasised.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:18 PM
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Well done for attacking me on something else other than the actual points being made. because apparently blacks controlling their lands is 'progressivism' Well done for doing exactly what my OP indicated you would do: exploit racism for the purposes of scoring points, and to make me conform to your politically correct perspective.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:15 PM
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If you want to make fighting against same sex marriage a political issue that rallies the MRM, and a lot of people seem to think that's just peachy, I find that troubling. Read all of my comments below the OP and you'll find that's anything but the case. I don't want to come across as dismissive of your point, however I don't want to repeat myself for the fourth time. Even if I was opposed to SSM, I wouldn't deem it 'troubling.' I'd consider it my morality, in the same way many people hold a mor…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:03 PM
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Ha, definitely not. To many it's weird, however the main reason I want to do it is so I can explore the subject to greater depth and eventually put a book together. I consider the problem emphasised in the OP to be at the heart of most problems with British politics today. I address it with an almost obsessive, all-consuming stubbornness. It bugs me far too much, particularly the synthetic and disingenuous nature of modern progressivism (and, by extension, all of its subsidiary ideologies).
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:59 AM
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I'm almost fairly certain you're a SJW with how offended you get at everything. Yet another attack on me personally rather than the points I'm making (again, remind anyone of anything?). From the speed of your response it's pretty clear that again you haven't even read anything I've typed. Me pointing out that some people being progressive will find your points against what they agree with, while some they might agree with, therefore read whole post before saying they agree. I don't even underst…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:46 AM
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Please, if you are going to respond, I've had a long day and not in the mood for walls of text. Keep it short or I will not read, not in the mood for that shit tonight. Well, I'm going to address this first because there's a great deal of intolerance even in that sentence. It's not, as you put it, 'shit', it's a viewpoint. Your inability to be tolerant of other people's opinions is hardly my problem, is it? Going to be honest, stopped reading there. Well, what's the point in even engaging me in …
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:29 AM
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See the conversation below. It will be on most of the themes identified above, notably contrasting political ideologies and how these relate to moral relativism and identity politics.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 03:06 AM
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He's partisan precisely because he's labelled my viewpoints 'extreme', with no qualification. That implies to me that he holds a contrary viewpoint. That is what he is asking them to do. He just warned that there are some extreme view expressed and people should read all of them before saying they agree with you. After he labelled my points 'extreme.' They aren't extreme, they are anything but extreme. 68% of people in the UK want to see a reduction in mass immigration. A majority wants to see a…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 02:59 AM
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I posted this below however I think it's worth a comment in itself as I'm already witnessing attacks on identity rather than points (as predicted in my OP). Hopefully it will show just how intertwined progressivism is with identity politics (and, by extension, feminism), and how utterly juvenile it is and orientated entirely around mob rule and shaming narratives (remind you of anything?). Do you want to know the ironic part? Progressives are so utterly intertwined in identity politics and attac…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 01:53 AM
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Agreed. I didn't dare mention 'cultural Marxism' - I prefer 'identity politics underpinned by moral relativism', even if it isn't as descriptive of the problem, largely because it lacks all the connotations of cultural Marxism - in the post, so kudos. ;)
/r/MensRights07/08/15 01:05 AM
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The tribal nature of some progressives viewing this thread is utterly pathetic. I mean, they are downvoting every single comment I'm making, including: And thus miss the points entirely? Are you honestly arguing it's valid to attack a person rather than the points they are making? and... Sorry, misunderstood your question, I thought you were referring to the theme/discipline. It would be with the department of politics so, for all intents and purposes, it will be a PhD in Politics. There's also …
/r/MensRights07/08/15 12:59 AM
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Sorry, misunderstood your question, I thought you were referring to the theme/discipline. It would be with the department of politics so, for all intents and purposes, it will be a PhD in Politics. There's also a subset of the department which focuses on political ideologies, which will obviously be a major theme within the PhD.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 12:13 AM
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Do you want to know the ironic part? Progressivism is so utterly intertwined with identity politics and attacking people based on identity rather than point, that no-one has even asked for my personal perspective on SSM prior to making presumptions. The funny part? I'm not even against it. Why then am I presenting the opposing side of the argument? It's simple. I think it's outright hypocrisy that so many within the progressive movement circle people like a pack of dogs and chant 'bigotry' and '…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 12:05 AM
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Even if the very fabric which underpins the progressive movement - moral relativism - is the very fabric which underpins feminism, and everything we fight against? I think it's important to raise these issues, and influence people's perspectives. Progressivism is, in many instances, particularly around issues like mass immigration, or 'white privilege', merely the reversal of age-old prejudices and the exploitation of social narratives to make people deny common sense, ie, 'it's impossible to be…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 11:27 PM
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Of course. I haven't quite decided yet, but broadly around the themes listed above, ie, identity politics and moral relativism.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 11:25 PM
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You're basing that on what? Assumption? The title is ambiguous at best. It doesn't say anything about progressivism, or anything of any relevance, all it does is operate as a 'tease' to encourage people to read the post.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 11:24 PM
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Well, if it's any consolation I'm entirely dismayed by the moral relativist principles of many in the progressive movement, particularly as, as the above post demonstrated, it merely cloaks prejudicial views of their own. I'm also dismayed that a 'moderator' can take such a politically partisan stance in a thread. I'd like to believe people are capable of making their own minds up rather than being influenced by the official line. If you care to debate some of the points then please, feel free. …
/r/MensRights06/08/15 11:23 PM
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Ok, on that rationale - pointing something out but failing to signify what is you're referring to - what are the points you deem to be 'extreme'? I tend to think the view 'that as white people hold all the power it's impossible to be racist towards a white person' is extreme, don't you? Or is 'extreme' merely a euphemism for: 'I don't like what you're saying, therefore I'm going to use a narrative - 'extreme' - to denounce you, rather than attack you on point.' It's also quite ironic considering…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 11:21 PM
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Thanks. No, not really. A bit too busy with the impending PhD and trying to veer my way back into full-time self-employment. Definitely aiming at it for the future though. I think more than anything I'd love to set-up a broader news site with an emphasis on identity politics as it relates to a more socially conservative stance. Other than Breitbart, the UK is really lacking. It's a massive undertaking though, a borderline suicidal business model and difficult to monetise without massive flows of…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 09:41 PM
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Good point and completely valid. :)
/r/MensRights06/08/15 07:14 PM
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Cheers but in consideration of the number of downvotes it's receiving - I've been watching it closely - it appears as though quite a few do. It's quite ironic because from my perspective those MRAs who utilise these same arguments in other contexts - notably Islam, multiculturalism and mass immigration - are a big part of the problem that is feminism. They are feeding it. It's almost relative moral relativism.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 07:11 PM
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And thus miss the points entirely? Are you honestly arguing it's valid to attack a person rather than the points they are making?
/r/MensRights06/08/15 06:47 PM
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I refer you to my original point: However, none of them will be able to argue any of the below on point - they'll simply attack my character.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 06:20 PM
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Well, not all at once but yeah.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 06:19 PM
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So, to get this straight, you're contextualising the morality to be just two people, of a certain identity, and only if they conform to that identity are they allowed to be married? Is that not the very prejudice advocates of SSM were fighting against in the first place?
/r/MensRights06/08/15 06:10 PM
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Why would I? It's pretty simple. We can't be in favour of SSM and denounce all who oppose as 'bigots' or 'homophobes' without simultaneously acknowledging that the morality which underpins the justification to legalise same-sex marriage - 'people should be free to marry whoever they choose' - should be extended to all groups in society, including incestuous and polygamous couples. The morality is the precise equivalent. Yet, you'll find a mass of progressives who feel that incestuous marriage is…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 05:48 PM
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Actually, it's worse than that. If you look at the last 12 months, it was 1.1% of men and 1.1% of women who reported being raped, or 'made to penetrate.' Of all the perpetrators forcing men to penetrate, 79% of them were women.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:03 PM
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Well said. I am however astounded you called them 'The BBC', I think 'The Bias By Omission Corporation' is far more apt.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 08:47 AM
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we desire companionship, and love is the deepest form of companionship there is. I enjoyed your post, it was well written. However, I didn't feel it addressed any of my points until the part quoted above. Would you say, as society holds true, love is anything more than an expression of self-interest? The only point I've attempted to make in this thread is that love is nothing more than an expression of self-interest. I'm not trying to de-construct anything, I'm just highlighting what I perceive …
/r/MensRights01/08/15 01:19 PM
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Why wasn't the whole world jumping out of windows before the Italians came around? I was being flippant. What are the interests of masculinity? No idea. Hence why I opened the conversation on a men's rights forum.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 12:49 PM
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As to what constitutes each party's self interest I think what you say is far too narrow but yeah people stop loving for various reasons but why does that make it a fiction? Because it was never something beyond an expression of self-interest in the first place. It sounds like what you're really disagreeing with the idea of a one true love or soul mates. No, I'm arguing against the notion that love is anything other than a veneer to conceal raw self-interest. For it to exist, her self-interest m…
/r/MensRights01/08/15 12:35 PM
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And the contribution is appreciated, but in fairness, you haven't really opened your post up for conversation, have you? You asked 6 questions in one go. You wouldn't have an offline conversation with someone in that manner.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 12:25 PM
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But that doesn't detract from the fact that love is a mutually beneficial expression of self-interest which wouldn't exist in the first place if the man (or woman) fails to meet the expressed self-interest of their partner. His self-interest is sex. Her self-interest may be security. There's a high probability that if security is removed, or worse she has to provide security, the 'measurable emotional response' suddenly reveals itself as nothing more than a cold hard expression of self-interest.…
/r/MensRights01/08/15 12:22 PM
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Are you basically positing that if I don't sit here and type answers to every single question which has popped into your head, then the post must be derided as a 'conspiracy theory'? If you want to ask a question and start a conversation then do it - ask one.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 12:17 PM
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I think though that most people have no real conception of what love is. To some large extent, I think people really only love themselves. (Which is sad and cynical, but makes some level of sense.) Where loving other people comes in, is when that person begins to form part of your identity and consciousness. All of which is dependant on whether you meet her self-interest, ie, whether you are employed and can provide for her, etc. Self-interest must be met before 'love' can exist, therefore what …
/r/MensRights01/08/15 12:15 PM
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I appreciate the sentiment, however you haven't contested any of the points I've made. What is 'love' other than a feminine ideal and a mutually beneficial expression of self-interest?
/r/MensRights01/08/15 12:08 PM
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The entire article is just a smokescreen - it's feminism in disguise. It's feminine traits being held up to be superior to masculine traits, and championed as those which men should aspire to. She addresses micro-level anecdotal evidence to make her 'points' and portrays men as 'victims' to cloak her prejudicial attitudes. Here’s what I’m more worried about than the unwarranted cat-calls whistled my way as I’ve walked down a street alone at night with my arms folded tight across my chest: how me…
/r/MensRights26/07/15 09:35 AM
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Again, if a man had said this, Facebook would have gone apoplectic and it would probably have made the frontpages of the BBC*. *exaggeration to highlight ingrained bias.
/r/MensRights25/07/15 09:10 AM
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I love numerics in gender debates. Let me give you some insight to the logic applied, which underpins many of the arguments around this in our 'progressive', moral relative world. Feminist: '1 in 3 women are raped on UK campuses.' Human being: 'No, they aren't. The definition of 'rape' has been extended to include 'stare rape' and 'forced kissing.' 0.02% of the British population is raped every year. Feminist: 'Yes, and most of them are women!' Human being: 'And?' Feminist: 'We need to teach men…
/r/MensRights25/07/15 09:04 AM
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The only difference being the BBC is a publicly funded organisation - with a £3.6 billion annual budget - and is duty bound, in accordance with their charter, to remain impartial.
/r/MensRights19/07/15 10:49 PM
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I could write a 10,000 words essay on this but really, it's just 'the women are wonderful effect.' It stipulates women show a tremendous in-group bias towards other women, and men also show this bias towards other women. The bias isn't anything like as pronounced between men. Edited to add: I should probably also remind you all of the advice handed down by Rape Crisis Scotland: 'if you stop to help a woman whose car has broken down at the side of the road, remember not to rape her.' Remember tha…
/r/MensRights19/07/15 11:52 AM
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Tie this to falling admissions of boys to higher education - now 40% of all applications according to UCAS - and you have a crisis in the waiting. In fact you can tie it to positive action - Universities offering grants exclusively to women and Intel spending $300 million on diversity quotas, etc. - and female primary school teachers (who now dominate the primary school teaching profession) consciously marking boys down in primary schools, too. They'll get the society they want, eventually. Once…
/r/MensRights19/07/15 11:47 AM
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This argument you created about argument for same-sex marriage and incest being similar just because of the fact we want to marry who we love is just awful. I didn't make that argument. You are making that argument but I didn't. I'm not sure how many times I need to repeat it until people stop wilfully misrepresenting what it is I've actually said? This is what I said: I didn't state homosexual marriage was 'like' or would 'lead to' incestuous marriage. I stated the morality utilised to justify …
/r/MensRights19/07/15 10:19 AM
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saying homosexual marriage is like or leads to incestuous marriage I think out of line I didn't state homosexual marriage was 'like' or would 'lead to' incestuous marriage. I stated the morality utilised to justify the legalisation of same-sex marriage - 'people should be free to marry whoever they please' - must also apply in the context of incestuous marriage, otherwise it's rank hypocrisy. I fail to see how in one context, namely homosexual marriage, it's deemed 'bigoted' or 'homophobic' to b…
/r/MensRights19/07/15 12:23 AM
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This from the organisation - BBC - which brought you favourable coverage of the LuLu app, an app downloaded by 3 million women to rate men on a scale of 1-10 based on their sexual performance in bed. What did they do after spending weeks upon weeks denouncing men via NoMorePage3? They got a guy to walk up and down the street asking women to rate him 1-10. The BBC - misandristic and moral relativist to the core. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25261160
/r/MensRights18/07/15 10:10 PM
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Slightly humbled by your comment but no problem - glad it helped. I think many do share these values and attitudes and hold modern progressivism in a similar disdain. Electoral results all over Europe, particularly in Sweden, France, Finland, The UK and the Netherlands, give us an indication of the likely size of the resistance over the next few decades. My only concern is they focus on the wrong things, they are too busy attacking the 'symptoms' rather than the 'disease' which forces people int…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 09:48 PM
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Cheers :)
/r/MensRights18/07/15 09:40 PM
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Cheers for this - I think based on what you've outlined, and the rational and considered nature which underpins your viewpoints, we'd probably agree on a great deal (with the exception of multiculturalism, which I believe is merely the prioritisation of all cultures at the expense of the host resident culture - then again, that's a very long debate!). I wouldn't describe my perspective as either socially conservative, or progressive. I think I fall into the trap many in society are in, but perha…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 09:38 PM
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I must comment you for your skill in straw men arguments. Please give it a rest, eh? There isn't a single straw man anywhere and you're adopting feminism 101 now. If you want to make an accusation then clarify it - where have I adopted a straw man? Bringing up the Rotherham sexual assaults/rapes to imply I support them takes this to another level. Don't talk absolute nonsense. I brought up the Rotherham example as an illustration of how dangerous it is to go around shaming people (an act you've …
/r/MensRights18/07/15 08:46 PM
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Frankly, I don't give a shit about you explaining your opinion. Well, that's not aggressive. It's like a guy dropping the n-bomb repeatedly when talking about black people saying I didn't wait to ask him his thoughts. No, it's not. That would be racism. I would question why you are invoking racism to make a point, however I feel my OP goes some way in explaining this. I already know enough by the way he talks. Yes, you know he's a racist because he has just called someone a n----r. Much like you…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 05:50 PM
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I'd argue the fact you even see any difference between gay and straight marriage other than there is two of the same sexual organ in one and one of each on the other type of marriage makes your views bigoted. Ding, ding, ding - we have a winner! The ironic part in all of this is that you presume I am opposed to SSM without once asking me for my viewpoint. To even discuss the topic is to be accused of 'bigotry.' Does this remind you of anything? I hope it does, and I hope it outlines for you why …
/r/MensRights18/07/15 04:36 PM
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I'm not talking about people taking advantage of other people, though. I'm talking about two consenting adults, over the age of 18 (or over the age of 21, dependent on jurisdiction), perhaps Mother and Son, or Father and Son, choosing to marry. If we accept the morality 'people should be free to marry whoever they choose' as the deciding factor in legalising homosexual marriage, I don't see how that morality can stop short of being applicable in the context of incestuous marriage, or polygamy. N…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 04:20 PM
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Well, in which case, we're broadly in agreement.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 04:09 PM
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It's not a 'mental illness problem.' It's a moral relativist problem. She has been taught to think in this fashion by a society which has created the conditions to allow her to spread bile and hate providing the target for her hate and bile is the right type of identity (in this instance 'heterosexual men'). She won't be held to account for her views because she too is of the right identity - she's non-white, and she's female. She's a sacrosanct identity type - she's impervious to criticism.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 03:53 PM
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Moral relativism strikes. See above.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 03:11 PM
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Yep, I mentioned moral relativism in the post.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 02:48 PM
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"If you really decided to rape a man and he wasn't into it how could you do it 'cause his penis would be limp." Jesus. Ah, wait, I get it. So if a guy rapes a girl and she's wet, she must be into it. And if she orgasms then she really, really must be into it? What a f*****g moron. "Maybe if crime was legal for, like, 12 hours, I'd try and go out and see if I could legally rape a man." Yet another example of how progressivism - which is inextricably informed by modern gender feminism - creates th…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 12:58 PM
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No, I'm saying the entire story is clearly made up, there's is no Asian security guard who is 5ft 10 on Primark's staff (this is the description she gave), or anyone who even comes close to matching that description, nor was anyone spotted approaching her while she remained on CCTV the entire time she was in the store. One woman makes up a story and it's publicised all over the MSM and everyone, by default, believes her.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 07:17 AM
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It utterly infuriates me to see how they remain so persistent with their exploitation of this narrative. It has become nothing more than a very safe way to shore up votes (typical divide and rule). We all know the evidence against the pay gap, however what's particularly galling is that it's a Conservative PM pushing this (it's no surprise, but it's still galling). The UK may be one of the most neo-liberal economies in the world, however culturally it has shifted so far left, and adopted so much…
/r/MensRights14/07/15 12:06 AM
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Again, society has created the conditions for such misandry to be deemed acceptable when it's pretty safe to say we'd never, ever put up with a Doctor saying this about females who have gone through a mastectomy. It's very similar to the view, where Sharon Osbourne and a group of five women sat around a table and laughed hysterically for 10 minutes about the story of a wife a who chopped her husband's penis off. There were no recriminations, no-one got fired and no-one blinked an eyelid. Put a g…
/r/MensRights13/07/15 12:50 AM
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I think you mean it's not relevant to you. That doesn't mean it's not relevant to other people. There have been many similar stories about female on male violence posted on this subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2p5615/estate_agent_yasmin_thomas_who_avoided_jail/ There are many posts made on this subreddit which are decades old, right now there's a YouTube video on feminism in 2014 featured on the frontpage. This news story was published by the Mirror recently, even if the …
/r/MensRights13/07/15 12:32 AM
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So a woman writes an article about a male issue from the perspective of a woman and in response to a woman's letter? Hmmm, I'm pretty sure they've tried to lynch men for far less. Hell, Tim Stanley isn't even allowed to discuss the topic of abortion at the most prestigious University in the world. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/i-helped-shut-down-an-abortion-debate-between-two-men-because-my-uterus-isnt-up-for-their-discussion-9867200.html
/r/MensRights12/07/15 10:06 PM
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Might I add, within that entire post I didn't spot one bit of specificity. About anything. It was all anecdotal evidence which I imagine is at the root of your prejudice towards the men's rights movement. From what I can see, you are relying on your own personal experience to project a perspective onto all of masculinity and by extension, the men's rights movement. By any definition that isn't rational. There are 3.5 billion men on earth. Give us an example. What is 'extreme' about men's rights?
/r/MensRights12/07/15 03:41 PM
2

Which is a euphemism for 'I don't agree with the sentiment and thus it shouldn't be here'? I fail to see how it's not relevant. I'm the messenger. It's a topic of discussion. I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment but I don't agree with a lot of the topics I post. I share them to encourage discussion and reflection, and to learn from other people.
/r/MensRights12/07/15 01:21 AM
10

Well, hang on a second. Let's not conflate. The issue many will raise is men are being subjected to norms women aren't: it's OK women to say they don't want to date a man because he's too short but it's never acceptable to say you don't want to date a woman because she's too fat. Point taken - major double standard. However, that's not what this is. It's a guy who decided to date a girl, a girl who has been through something which sounds, quite frankly, horrendous, and THEN decides he doesn't wa…
/r/MensRights12/07/15 01:14 AM
6

It's a correlation I highlight time and time again - the problem isn't confined to feminism, it's confined to progressivism. They use the same narratives to make people conform with their ridiculous group think, to the point appeasement of a barbaric and medieval religion which is entirely antithetical to their supposedly cherished principles is revered under an agenda of 'tolerance.' Sweden, once a peaceful country, is now harbouring a ridiculously large Islamic population and has emerged as th…
/r/MensRights11/07/15 11:55 PM
1

Don't feel bad. Chivalry is long dead. She's equal before the law. She decided to hit you. She made that choice; she knew the repercussions. Charge her.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 10:38 PM
2

Welcome - you've just faced up to your first example of a person (typically a progressive) using a social narrative to make you conform with their politically correct, prejudiced, conformist group think. They use it around immigration, Islam, multiculturalism, same sex marriage, austerity and every other social, political and economical issue, too. The WORST threat to feminised driven society is individualism; to think for yourself and refuse to be valued purely for your utility and ability to s…
/r/MensRights10/07/15 10:10 PM
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As the narrative goes, if you hit back you are a 'woman beater' and if you don't hit back, and take a beating, you are a 'sissy.' Quite the narrative that has been constructed. It's a bit like the 18th century really, if a man is found to have beaten his wife he is tied to a post and lashed, and if he is found to have been bested by his wife in a fight he is dragged through a village on a cart while everyone beats him with pots and pans.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 05:19 PM
3

I have to be honest: the way she describes these women, it terrifies the crap out of me. They are absolute basket cases. What has happened for young people (predominantly women) to fall so far so fast? That's a bit of a rhetorical question because I understand - I base many of society's problems squarely at the feet of identity politics, particularly around issues like immigration and SSM (I'm in favour of the latter, FYI). However, feminists seems to be of the variety which are particularly ame…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 07:06 PM
19

The worst incident I've come across recently was Boko Haram. The coverage surrounding the 200 girls was everywhere (rightly so). However, there was barely a modicum of a mention for the thousands of boys who weren't just 'kidnapped', no, they were slaughtered, burned alive, tortured or beheaded. Coverage? Nothing. Not a jot, at least not in the relative sense. I wanted to tear my hair out at the injustice of it.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:23 PM
11

That more men are raped in the United States than women, according to the Department of Justice (and when you incorporate prison rape), and that the narrative is still shaped solely around the dynamic 'male perpetrator/female victim', is a national disgrace.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:22 PM
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I've never been a feminist but the day 'I got it' and started to get gradually more annoyed with the complete alienation of male narratives from society was the day I watched that video on the view, where Sharon Osbourne and a group of women laughed hysterically about a woman in the US who chopped her husband's penis off. That was the day I realised the pendulum had shifted far too far. Unfortunately, the more I've read and the more I go through life with my 'gender reversal' hat on, the more I …
/r/MensRights06/07/15 12:58 PM
22

I've also submitted a huge comment under 'The Citizen Act' on this post, here it is: "We'll just keep screaming on about domestic violence being perpetrated by women and you, and your ilk, will just keep ignoring us. Hundreds of independent studies show domestic violence is perpetrated by women just as often as men (many of which have been reported on by this very newspaper, albeit with little in the way of moral outrage typically only reserved for women) and a study from Harvard University whic…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 12:27 PM
18

Of course you are making it a feminist issue, you are arguing like a feminist. No-one on here disputes women should be protected from domestic violence, the simple fact is though: they already are. Both Governmental funding and domestic violence refuge provision is massively weighted in favour of women. You argument seems to be a justification that because women are more likely to be the victim of serious domestic violence - death - it's somehow a logical outcome to give them privileged victim s…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 03:18 PM
18

Yes, and calling people 'morons' is REALLY going to bring them round to your supposedly superior way of thinking. The real question is whether you have read the article. First sentence: "The pets of WOMEN AND CHILDREN fleeing family violence will be offered protection as part of a program funded by the Victorian government." It's sexist.
/r/MensRights05/07/15 03:14 PM
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Guys, I really wouldn't bother commenting - it will just get deleted for breaking the Guardian's 'community standards.' It's immensely easy to get deleted on the Guardian, a contrary viewpoint on 'sensitive' issues like mass immigration or feminism - contrary to the prejudicial viewpoints of progressives, that is - is enough to warrant deletion (and going into the pre-moderation queue). They are the enforcers for those who proclaim there is a right to be offended - je suis Charlie? Pfft. They'll…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 01:42 PM
2

Meanwhile, back in the real world, our debt to GDP is 90% - thanks, Labour! - and our national debt is £1.4 trillion. Oh, and did I mention that our biggest public expenditure, pensions...the pot is running dry. It's nearly dry already. It's very unlikely anyone under the age of 30 will actually receive a state pension - it's an outright certainty they won't receive a state pension anything like what their parents receive. Of course, even the debt to GDP ratio is invalid - GDP is just the total …
/r/MensRights04/07/15 11:20 PM
4

It's quite simple: to be opposed to Islam and all the western values it abhors (homosexuality, individualism, equal rights, etc.) would be to oppose multiculturalism. To oppose Islam would be 'intolerant', her ideology determines we must tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance. She's another primary advocate of 'Islamophobia', a 'hate crime' which our once would-be Prime Minister, Ed Miliband, tried to outlaw pre general election and during an interview with MuslimNews. To paraphrase a…
/r/MensRights04/07/15 11:12 PM
1

Agreed. I simply mean if they can afford nuclear weapons then they can afford to foster distribution of wealth and improve social mobility.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 07:14 PM
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I attribute that more to the disillusionment with Labour, rather than anything else. There is a growing, cretinous anti-austerity movement, however it's the type of movement that claims to speak for the working classes while spending an inordinate amount of time focusing on the rich. They hate capitalism, they think it has failed - they are juveniles. They advocate Twitter societies, a society based around feelings and Michael Moore logic. Needless to say, they don't have an alternative to capit…
/r/MensRights04/07/15 06:58 PM
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This woman is rancid, but it's worth noting she's also widely regarded as utterly inept. She advocated policies including giving EVERY single citizen in the UK £71 per week, as a stipend and to save on welfare administration costs. Conservative estimates put the cost at £240 billion. She also supported legalising membership of terrorist organisations like IS and Al-Qaeda.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 06:43 PM
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To believe in patriarchy requires a similar leap of faith to what one would take in choosing to adhere to religious belief: 'patriarchy exists because you can't prove otherwise.' For millennia organised religion has practised intolerance with relentless deference to a sacrosanct belief system. The patriarchy is merely a belief system, and like most belief systems it's seriously flawed. Even the premise of your question suggests it something which exists as a belief, rather than something which e…
/r/MensRights27/06/15 09:06 PM
1

No. Feminism has 'endured' for 60 years because feminism isn't a 'thing.' It can't be held accountable, it has no leader, it can't be vanquished from society. Feminism will still exist a millennium from now, long after its proponents, and proponents of 'progressivism', are seen for what they are. Fascism has endured for hundreds of years, but it doesn't make the movement valid or worthy of our consideration. The narrative has worked to destroy fascist ideologies and it will eventually turn its a…
/r/MensRights27/06/15 03:00 PM
2

The more concerning facet of this story I refused to read is that in modern society emotion - nay, identity - is prioritised well ahead of achievement. I firmly believe there are many on these boards who are blind to the truth behind progressivism - it's all about identity, all of it. It's rich vs. poor, young vs. old, women vs. men, resident vs. migrant, etc. Then it has the cheek to accuse conservatives of playing divide and rule. They divide us into component categories and pick us off to inc…
/r/MensRights26/06/15 11:40 PM
1

Uh-huh, if you say so. Best wishes, An emasculated coward typing on Mommy's keyboard.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 11:11 PM
1

Whereas tarnishing an entire generation of males with spurious 1 in 5 and 1 in 3 rape statistics - by extending the definition of 'rape' to include actions like 'stare rape' - clearly isn't worse than that. No-one here with even a modicum of sense would argue prosecution or incarceration without evidence.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 05:46 PM
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To paraphrase Betty Friedan, 'the Mother of the (gender) feminist movement': "women who preached man-hating sex/class warfare threatened to take control of NOW, driving out all women who wanted to combine equality with loving relationships with their husbands and children." She made this point in 1973. Look at us now in a far, far worse position. If even the leader of the feminist movement identified the problem all the way back in 1973, it really shouldn't be beyond the comprehension of anyone …
/r/MensRights10/06/15 05:42 PM
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How do I reconcile it? I owned up to what I am: a conservative. Conservatives don't hate people, they aren't scum, they don't want to benefit the rich and hate the poor, they just see the world for what it is. They believe in the market and the power of the individual. Stalin and Hitler were both fundamentally opposed to capitalism - a central tenet of right-wing politics and culture - despite the incessant conflation of 'Nazism' and 'right-wing' politics. I also believe socialism to be fundamen…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:59 PM
9

Innate bias towards gynocentrism isn't 'menrights-y'? They do question individual suicides when women throw themselves in-front of trains. See the post below.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:50 PM
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It's not just the incident itself which I have an issue with - although something has to be said about why male suicide rate has continued to increase year-after-year, and is significantly higher than female suicide for reasons we are all aware of but no-one acknowledges - but rather the hypocrisy and the narrative. Take this case: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/25727743/girl-posted-self-harm-photos-online-before-train-jump It was posted last year. A girl jumped in-front of a train and sh…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:29 PM
0

What is it with the false classification of liberal in America? Liberal IS right! Even fascism is deemed 'right', the 'National Socialist German Workers Party', which, along with communism - Stalin - was ruthlessly opposed to individualism and capitalism. Fascism and communism are both collectivism and shared a great deal in common, particular the notion of dehumanising people and treating them as a category.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 06:01 AM
2

Even this part doesn't resemble reality: "stop that, they've been oppressing us for centuries, it's our turn now" The suffragette movement in the UK was originally only for upper-class women, they didn't die for their rights (with the exception of one suffragette who committed suicide). The only reason men were granted universal suffrage 10 years before women was because they died in their MILLIONS during WW1 - they then campaigned on behalf of women to extend the franchise. What the feminist na…
/r/MensRights13/05/15 11:05 PM
3

Same old double standard. Women can refuse to date a man because 'he's not tall enough', however try telling a woman you won't date her because she's too fat. Can open, worms EVERYWHERE.
/r/MensRights13/05/15 10:48 PM
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Are you British? If not, I'd suggest you're lost in translation. 'Sorry' is the most overused word in the English language in the UK. People apologise for EVERYTHING. It's common vernacular and part of the whole British excessive politeness thing.
/r/MensRights13/05/15 10:47 PM
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. It's NOT an opinion, it's RACIST. To justify one form is to justify all forms. This item has: Planted the seed of ethnic suspicion in the minds of potentially hundreds of young white boys, that people of ethnic minorities are out to replace them. Just given them a free pass to incite racial hatred and article 'black men shouldn't be allowed access to Universities.' The Equality Act 2010, while being an absolute disgrace in parts, specifically stands against this. It is racis…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 12:28 PM
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I do enjoy how people are voting me down yet have absolutely no challenge to the point I'm making. Utterly insane. This is feminist ideology running through your veins, that it's not about legal protection or freedom of expression, it's about the fact we don't like the guy and that alone is basis enough for his exclusion. Daft, unprincipled, conformist nonsense.
/r/MensRights28/03/15 07:42 PM
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This. I'm astounded by how many MRAs seemingly believe that it's acceptable to ban a person's right to express his opinion simply because they don't like who he is as a person. Freaking insane. Such behaviour is FEMINIST group think.
/r/MensRights28/03/15 07:40 PM
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So what if it doesn't cast him in a good light? So what if he's being disruptive? Who has he killed? What law has he broken? None. He's entitled to speak up and behave in any way he sees fit, irrespective of whether we don't like what he says or who he is as a person...being 'disruptive' is something the vast majority of students do (at least they used to), heck if it was a justification for banning people from an education then the vast majority of alumni wouldn't have degrees! To condone this …
/r/MensRights28/03/15 07:36 PM
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And your opinion is that he strayed beyond being civil? Based on what? To be honest, this entire thread reeks of feminist ideology. "We won't stand up for the principle of freedom of speech, we will revoke this man's right to freedom of speech because we disagree with who he is." Utter nonsense. He's guilty before proven innocent in this regard, and this thread has tried to sideline him based on the fact they don't like who he is as a person. Talk about feminist logic. If I'm honest, I don't thi…
/r/MensRights28/03/15 07:26 PM
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It was just a few students. He said as much in his YouTube video.
/r/MensRights28/03/15 07:17 PM
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Which crazy statements?
/r/MensRights28/03/15 07:15 PM
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So, even all being true, which the n-word assertion you made is true according to the student himself, what justification is there for ANYONE to ban ANYONE from a classroom for being 'disruptive'? Surely if his disruptive behaviour was as bad as suggested, they'd have settled on a little more specificity than something as subjective as 'disruptive.' What's wrong with being disruptive anyway? In this instance, it seems to me it's being used as a euphemism for 'challenging', and God only knows we …
/r/MensRights28/03/15 07:13 PM
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It's RACIST. It's not anything other than racism. It's not a spoof, his character is irrelevant - it's racism. If you want it eliminated from society then you need to stand against it in all forms. All that article does is justify racism against ethnic minorities. The Independent has just put up a big sign that says: 'It's OK, go ahead and be racist towards black people in Universities, or those of any other ethnicity.' Needless to say, that's how race wars begin.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 05:46 PM
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It takes a great deal to shock me. I've read and heard all of their white privilege nonsense, however this is another step. It's the reversal of age-old prejudices and it has shocked me in its blatancy (they are usually a lot more covert with this crap). I find it funny that with this type of mentality permeating throughout Universities why they wonder why so many people oppose mass immigration. Congratulations to the author, he has just cemented my support for UKIP - I'm not about to be targete…
/r/MensRights27/03/15 04:14 PM
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To hell with EVER getting married. My girlfriend has raised the topic in a subtle fashion twice and I will never, ever do it. If she mentions it again, I will point her in the direction of this story and the thousands of others like it.
/r/MensRights26/03/15 08:55 PM
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I love Judge Judy. Granted, she's only enforcing the law as it should be enforced but damn, she isn't half rational with it. Judy for President.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 10:32 PM
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They banned a debate on abortion involving Tim Stanlet at Oxford recently, too. Not to mention their needing to protect the delicate sensibilities of students at UAE, when they banned a debate on mass immigration, or banning the Sun newspaper from campuses, as well as the song blurred lines. Welcome to 21st century students! They used to be provocative, they used to demand society's attention and reform, now all they do is swing the banhammer around. If you want to understand how Universities ar…
/r/MensRights22/03/15 09:02 PM
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No, but we do see their reaction to domestic violence jokes. We do see society being orientated entirely around the delicate sensibilities of women. From there we can extrapolate.
/r/MensRights22/03/15 08:58 PM
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That's a valid point and a similar point to the one being made by a poster below (although he made it in a far less coherent fashion than you did). I want to agree with you (and I do on the point it SHOULD be deemed funny), I just don't believe you can make your point without resorting to synthetic outrage. Believing otherwise is flagrant idealism, the only way they will start to unpick their double standards is if you point them out to them on their terms. Morality is highly subjective, a doubl…
/r/MensRights22/03/15 07:42 PM
3

Ah, good, more personal insults! I'm sorry you regard disagreeing with you as shooting you down, your insecurities are your own, don't project them onto me. If you don't want debate, or if you want to play identity politics with the Men's Rights forum, may I suggest you don't bother replying to my points. Your claim that this would be accepted in reverse is just plain wrong. I'm not 'hanging' with you either, this isn't a fraternity, some of us are affected by feminism, and all the double standa…
/r/MensRights22/03/15 07:35 PM
2

Agreed, but it's not just the ad agencies (a point you've alluded to), far from it. It's the mainstream media's pandering to a female's every whim and demand as if the only way to communicate with them is to infantilise them whenever they come face to face with masculinity, it's directors and producers consistently, systemically, portraying males as hapless and archaic, in need of saving from women with superior intellects (see Homer and Marge Simpson, see Carla and Turk on Scrubs, see Phil and …
/r/MensRights22/03/15 07:28 PM
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Uh, yeah, uh, because when you call someone stupid that totally makes it so! Try discrediting the points rather than the poster, your life will be easier. Can I ask, what about this would be accepted in reverse? Are you making the claim that the sight of a woman have every bone in her body broken by a man, only to then be flung in a cupboard under the pretext of women being disposable, would be deemed accptable to feminists in ANY context? I hate to break it to you...but feminists don't care abo…
/r/MensRights22/03/15 07:22 PM
4

How is the sight of a man having his bones broken and being jam packed into a cupboard not anti-male? If that were to have been a woman, all hell would have broken loose.
/r/MensRights22/03/15 06:57 PM
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Are you having a laugh? Not in a million years would that be tolerated in reverse - heck, Matt Taylor (the guy who landed Rosetta on an asteroid) can't even wear a shirt without feminists jumping on the bandwagon and dominating the frontpages of the MSM for days on end. Most things feminists advocate wouldn't be tolerated in reverse. Take women-only groups, like networking groups, gyms, taxi firms, political party conferences, business conferences, etc., or even workplace awards and discriminati…
/r/MensRights22/03/15 06:54 PM
0

This is from the same woman who toured schools teaching boys not to hit girls. The same woman who wore a 'this is what a feminist looks like' t-shirt in Parliament, only to later discover the t-shirts - which were sold for £40 a piece - were being made by Mauritian sweatshop workers working for £0.60 per hour. Her political history is the epitome of divide and rule.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 09:37 PM
3

Great article but this woman needs to do an in-depth read of Ched Evans's case if she wants to see 'regrettable sex' manifest in full-blown character assassination. She drives while drunk, she's responsible. She gets into a fight while drunk, she's responsible. She steals while drunk, she's responsible. She has sex while drunk, he's responsible. He has sex while drunk, he's responsible. It's equality, don't you know?
/r/MensRights08/02/15 10:45 PM
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That AMA restored my faith in humanity, and the ability of human beings to prioritise logic and reason ahead of indoctrination, by about 0.1%. They really tore her sexism to shreds. Good to see.
/r/MensRights02/02/15 12:36 AM
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I was never a feminist. But I was never anti-feminist either. I think, for me, it started from realising, around the age of 23, that this just 'doesn't feel right.' Feminism was always something I'd heard of, something that sounded fairly reasonable if not a little bit self-aggrandising and I just figured it had nothing to do with me. Then I started asking questions about wider society, and I kept being met by the same nonsense. Why are decidedly intolerant measures being justified in the name o…
/r/MensRights01/02/15 06:39 PM
3

Excellent. Hardly an appropriate amount of money, but AT LEAST, finally, it is being acknowledged. Now, can someone tell Chris Grayling, our SoS for Justice, to STOP blocking every single attempted investigation into rape in our prison system? If we can do that, those figures would undoubtedly sky rocket, as they have in the US. Only then will people begin to realise the extent of the problem. I'm also slightly miffed why this has been announced so covertly - I know it's an official Governmental…
/r/MensRights01/02/15 04:35 PM
2

Cheers, didn't spot that. Fixed.
/r/MensRights01/02/15 03:41 PM
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I'm not bitter, I'm not sure how you can claim authority on how I do or don't feel. For every single reference I've given, I could have provided 10, 100 or 1,000 more. If I don't read the Guardian, the Telegraph, the BBC, the Spectator or the Daily Mail, what do I read?
/r/MensRights01/02/15 03:34 PM
2

Fair play. I haven't seen Magic Mike but I've sure as hell heard of it, I also appreciate your more traditionalist stance of wanting to keep sexualisation within the confines of your relationship, a standard I wish other people would assume, but don't. But again, that's what I wish for, it doesn't mean it should happen. I think it's impossible for legislators to navigate these issues. Prevailing wisdom suggests that in order for 'equality' (whatever that means, it's a very subjective term used b…
/r/MensRights01/02/15 12:41 PM
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There's no offence intended in either direction. You are sharing a viewpoint, and I'm sharing mine. There's no justification being made here, I'm just stipulating that, as far as No More Page 3 is concerned, objectification 1. only flows in one direction and 2. is only bad in one direction. Accepting the initial premise of their argument (which I don't), that objectification is 'degrading and humiliating' (which isn't for them to say, it's infantilising women to tell them what they find to be 'o…
/r/MensRights01/02/15 12:09 PM
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It doesn't really have anything to do with 'porn' and everything to do with freedom of expression. You are looking at this from the viewpoint of it being indecent for a mainstream news publication to include a picture of a woman showing her boobs. Can you clarify, then, how much boob a woman is allowed to show in a mainstream newspaper? Are we allowed shots of women in bikinis? 3/4 boob? Are we allowed tight tops? Does any of this 'belong in a newspaper'? Who draws the line? More to the point, i…
/r/MensRights01/02/15 11:24 AM
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I see there's confusion over what this means below. Just to confirm, this isn't an Act of Parliament, it's a recommendation handed down to the Police by the Crown Prosecution Service, a body which suggests to them how best to handle accusations of rape and sexual violence. The problem which is posed is how far this extends to, or what the next step is. The issue is the reversal of the burden of proof i.e. a man now has to demonstrate the woman consented, as well as the nature of it. The Sexual O…
/r/MensRights01/02/15 02:47 AM
1

I'm not meaning to be critical for the sake of it here, but singly the best way to insult an Irish, a Scottish or a Welsh person is to refer to them as 'English.' You're wiping out nearly 10 million people. It would be a bit like referring to all Americans as 'Californians' or 'New Yorkers.' The UK is all of the aforementioned, including England. 'Britain' is colloquially used to refer to the 'main island' i.e. Wales, England and Scotland. Scotland in particular plays a very large role in the ec…
/r/MensRights01/02/15 02:36 AM
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'TIS THE PATRIARCHY'S FAULT!!!! 'TIS...PATRIARCHY!!! PRIVILEGE!!! MEN'S HAVES THE PRIVILEGES! I mean, it's (the patriarchy) intangible, but this, like males being 6x more likely to be homeless, 90% of all workplace deaths, 66% of all homicide victims, underperforming relative to girls at ALL levels of the schooling system, 43% of University applications, 20% of primary school teachers, twice as likely to be the victim of a violent crime, paid less than women for part-time work when the median fi…
/r/MensRights30/01/15 12:39 PM
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Please, this is the tip of the iceberg as far as discrimination against males in the UK prison system goes. See PSO (prison service order) 4800, let me quote you a few bits: "It is important to note that although some aspects of how imprisonment affects a woman is clearly gender specific and will only apply to her and not a male prisoner (an example would be facilities for pregnant women), other elements of imprisonment are likely to impact women differently or to a significantly different degre…
/r/MensRights30/01/15 12:10 AM
2

What with living in the UK, I may find that slightly challenging. ;)
/r/MensRights29/01/15 04:04 PM
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"Written fucking consent???? IS THAT WHAT YOU FUCKING WANT????!?!?!?!?!" No, actually. That's wrong. It's not enough. According to The Sexual Offences Act 2003, consent can be withdrawn at any time which, in theory, means a woman could argue, even with a contract, that she withdrew consent halfway through the sexual act. So, the man needs to ask, consistently, whether she still consents, and record her admission. Him: 'Em, I know this is a bit awkward, I know we are REALLY in the mood for this r…
/r/MensRights29/01/15 12:20 PM
2

It's the difference between sexual offences and incidents of rape which are actually reported (15,000) and survey data compiled by the MoJ, The ONS and The Home Office. "Based on aggregated data from the ‘Crime Survey for England and Wales’ in 2009/10, 2010/11 and 2011/12, on average, 2.5 per cent of females and 0.4 per cent of males said that they had been a victim of a sexual offence (including attempts) in the previous 12 months. This represents around 473,000 adults being victims of sexual o…
/r/MensRights29/01/15 10:06 AM
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'Kind of' one sided? It's not 'kind of' anything. It's modern feminism doing what it does best, flying under the radar and imposing authoritarianism on the world under the guise of 'equality' and 'tolerance.' They are nothing more than 20th century conservatives - they want to demonise and ban masculinity, we see it in their attempts to ban free speech on UK university campuses (i.e. Tim Stanley, an editor for The Telegraph, was blocked from discussing the issue of abortion because he 'lacks a u…
/r/MensRights29/01/15 12:51 AM
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Em, no. Is she says he raped her, then he is deemed to have raped her, because he lacks evidence indicating otherwise. There is no 'description' involved, he has to PROVE it, or else he's presumed guilty. The onerous burden of proof has been shifted entirely to men, and the presumption of innocence has evaporated. So yes, something has changed - everything!
/r/MensRights29/01/15 12:25 AM
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Women can't be convicted of rape under UK law. They can only be convicted as an accomplice.
/r/MensRights28/01/15 11:55 PM
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While I agree with what this woman is saying (the woman sticking up for a male's right to due process), she's an incredibly weak debater. She's challenging them on the all the wrong things - she shouldn't allow the fact the woman in front of her is getting so indignant to bother her. It's all BS with these people, they are all manipulative and they will all exploit emotion as much as necessary to make their points. She should nail them on it, she should be on the offensive - always. Take her poi…
/r/MensRights26/01/15 10:30 PM
2

It's not just feminists who behave this way, these behavioural patterns exist within many left-wing movements. It's all about constructing a narrative. The narrative, at the core of feminism, is the patriarchy, or 'the systemic oppression of all women by all men and for the purposes of ensuring male privilege.' Needless to say, nowadays we've gone so far left, cultural Marxism has had such an impact, that this is now a plausible and accepted narrative among Parliamentarians, 'academics' and cham…
/r/MensRights03/01/15 04:09 PM
0

Yeah I do, exactly like that. The very same Facebook which feminists complain was sexually objectifying women. It's a double standard.
/r/MensRights22/12/14 07:43 PM
-5

Yet, the merest hint at rating women by their looks over their personality, in public, is met with outrage by gender feminists. There's a mass of new articles in the MSM about female objectification (by men) every day of the year. Here we have a situation where women are doing on a systemic scale, and no-one blinks an eyelid. I don't care about being objectified. I care about double standards and hypocrisy. Young boys have to grow up with the narrative "it's deplorable to sexually objectify wome…
/r/MensRights22/12/14 08:20 AM
7

No. I'm saying it's a complete double standard and one of the biggest examples of hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights22/12/14 07:21 AM
9

The gross ignorance of some people is dumbfounding. "I'm just surprised that that's allowed." Is she kidding? Women-only gyms, taxi firms, networking groups and business conferences exist all over The UK. There are far, far more same-sex groups for women than there are for men. Never mind The Labour Party which has it's own women-only party conference, which is glaringly omitted from the debate owing to the fact it challenges the established narrative (and we know how much The BBC hates to do th…
/r/MensRights22/12/14 07:04 AM
2

Nothing will change until we challenge the established narrative. Men can't be victims, and no-one is willing to speak up for them. You can talk about man-made disasters, you can talk about astronomical events, but the real disaster men will face in the 21st century is the destruction of masculinity and it's our civility which will be our destroyer. In the UK, this issue rarely hits the headlines. Girls are outperforming boys at nearly ALL levels of the schooling system, 60% of all applications …
/r/MensRights20/12/14 11:48 PM
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