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| – | Why do high-body-count women get the most offended when men prefer low body count?Because women can just claim misogyny for pretty much any standard or expectation they don’t like, and debating women on what is / isn’t sexist doesn’t fly for now. Our culture of identity politics encourages people to reject or even shame nuance unless you’re criticizing an “oppressor” class. It’s kosher to pontificate endlessly about why women should be excused for any anti-social behavior patterns, any preferences / demands in men, any upholding of the very patriarchy that supposedly has them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 09:20 AM |
| 0 | Why would I, as a woman, take any of your complaints seriously ?You shouldn’t, broadly speaking - the same way a “nice guy” should realize that women make themselves available to the shitty men they go on to complain about. No matter what people say, in the real world people complain about the exact behavior they actively incentivize with their choices. A man will ignore indicators that a woman will walk all over him, cheat, use him for money, etc if she’s attractive enough. A woman will engage in or condone hookup culture, then complain about being manipula… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/25 08:12 PM |
| 3 | How do you screen for political compatibility, and how important is that for you when dating?A less pointed way to ask this question - look for hints that they are oblivious to or accepting of bias. How convenient are their beliefs or values to their current situation? Would they maintain their opinions if they were suddenly forced to switch lives with another random human; ie good faith opinions that would survive switching socioeconomic class, gender, race, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/25 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe men in western societies pose any risk of reverting to extreme patriarchy (eg Iran ‘79)? More generally, do protections for women ultimately exist at the mercy of men?In Iran’s case, it was forced onto women, but eagerly accepted by men no? It was an important bargaining tool. Khomeini brought women back under strict control of men, especially notable as women were instrumental to the revolution. Despite their credibility and mobilization experience, strict Islamic restrictions were comprehensive ~1 year in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe men in western societies pose any risk of reverting to extreme patriarchy (eg Iran ‘79)? More generally, do protections for women ultimately exist at the mercy of men?I think I was unclear before. I meant that all but the most repressive regimes have some kind exchange with their populace. Eg CCP justifies its substantial power with its economic results, QoL improvements, etc. Some govt’s social contracts grant male superiority in lieu of or in addition to prosperity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe men in western societies pose any risk of reverting to extreme patriarchy (eg Iran ‘79)? More generally, do protections for women ultimately exist at the mercy of men?Frankly, it seems like dominance over women is sometimes enough of privilege to offset a govt failing to deliver prosperity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 11:26 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe men in western societies pose any risk of reverting to extreme patriarchy (eg Iran ‘79)? More generally, do protections for women ultimately exist at the mercy of men?I agree that government enforcement is key in most cases. I was thinking that men can leverage women’s vulnerabilities to restrict or eliminate women’s suffrage. Or maybe collectively enable another system that denies women a voice, like a fascist dictatorship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 10:43 PM |
| – | “Women are wonderful” effect…I struggle to see the connection between WAW effect and men’s bitterness toward women, or how they are mutually exclusive. WAW is purported to exist societally — across genders and beyond the scope of relationships, eg prison sentencing, social norms like chivalry, etc. I absolutely agree that tons of men attribute malice and their own issues to women, but these men aren’t the ones upholding WAW as construct. Edit: see that the idea is WAW is taken by men to fuel negativity toward women, get you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/25 04:32 AM |
| 5 | Why do you like "bro" spaces?First: think people shouldn’t feel a need of friendships of the opposite gender, so kudos. Second: I def didn’t wanna imply you feel a need. Point was mostly around why men value male friendships so much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 02:42 AM |
| 17 | Why do you like "bro" spaces?Male friendships are based on acknowledging mutual humanity in a way that I’ve rarely seen reciprocated from women that are friends with men A close gay friend took me to Drybar once, that was the only time I felt anything like a princess with a hair professional. I’m curious what kind of barber you have in mind, most typically stay pretty normal. I saw someone mention “homo” which also reminds me - there is not bullshit when you tell a bro something you’re proud of. No implication you’re tryna … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 02:03 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Hiding money and assets in a divorce should be illegalNo, literally just have a career and if you have a kid, return part time at least 6—18 months. Tbh trolling aside - good faith effort to go back to you career that just didn’t work out, or health complication from childbirth, etc valid reasons exist for not being able to return to work. And that should not subject women to financial abuse. I still genuinely feel 50/50 financials is silly as a default for all situations where one spouse works while the other is a SAHP. Let’s say you and a hypothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 01:49 AM |
| 1 | RP isn’t synonymous with incels and hating women. RP discussion is best when based on observations of the reality we navigate, entirely free of judgment or bitternessI wish I thought of mentioning this definition in the context where the term actually came from 🤦♂️ that’s exactly it though, getting to underlying substantiative reality without worrying about making men feel like losers etc. I’m still trying to figure out how PUA became intrinsic here. I just bought the Buss ebook and will read Stewart next. Thank you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/25 12:07 AM |
| 4 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADYoung men that are entirely disconnected from one of the three remaining big content sites? From internal Reddit data, a small minority of college+ educated men under 25 use Reddit less than once a week. Based on what you said, we are so disconnected in social circles I gotta just bow out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 11:59 PM |
| 2 | A man has been dating a woman for years before telling her he's into crossdressing. What are your thoughts?Women made lying and disregarding expectations acceptable with shaming of promiscuity standards and so on. Even if you merely condone other women’s doing, you don’t deserve honesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 11:35 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Hiding money and assets in a divorce should be illegalThis type of thinking is what makes men have an unspoken understanding that women are inferior. Get your money up brokie. Domestic labor and child rearing doesn’t make you financial equals even if get us to say we agree with your broad hysteria. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 11:32 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADThat’s true only of women. Reddit has a huge head start with men, it’s another thing we wouldn’t admit unnecessarily. You know women hear what yall wanna hear right? Even 4chan has been relatively common across men but nonexistent among women. I’d pretend I never heard of 4chan w women tho, a lil too much for the girls for now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 11:26 PM |
| 1 | I understand the value of protecting no-fault divorce and believe it should always be available. I don’t understand why some states only allow no-fault separation, ie fault divorce isn’t possible. Both should always be available.I’ve been trying to bundle Westlaw with my Thomson sub - fruitless 😔 Anyway, I’ve literally never seen successful prenup limits on marital asset splits or SAHM spousal support. Any material decrease vs a non-prenup scenario was a no-go. Forget trying to make infidelity a factor top. NY and New England if relevant. Is your prenup research posted on westlaw? Didn’t think they hosted so lmk if elsewhere too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 08:31 PM |
| – | Some of women's strong preferences actually lead to a higher rate of divorce.Unless a woman out earns her husband and has done so for many years, there isn’t really a downside to divorce for them. SAHM at minimum walk w the bulk of marital assets, child support, and separately maintenance support. A higher rate of divorce - did you mention that as something they’re tryna avoid? I’d almost expect SAHM divorce rate to be higher, since financial benefit of divorce scales with both income disparity and default parent status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 08:22 PM |
| 4 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADIn most white shoe firms it quite literally matters. For a lot of very lucrative fields it’s absurdly irrelevant for sure eg most specialties for doctors which someone mentioned above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 07:58 PM |
| 3 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADVery cool, forget my question, bit i just got a streetfighter. You said Texas so I gotta ask - you a Harley purist? Progression over the years: no-brand 50cc pedal moped, z400, mt07, panigale v2, street fighter sp2. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 07:55 PM |
| 4 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSo interesting - I’d look past any count for the right partner, but all else equal it would make a difference. Does your professional network overlap with your academic one? It’s kinda suicide to bring a partner to a dinner for example if she was known for being wild back in the day or via some grapevine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 07:41 PM |
| 4 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI and most men I know truly and meaningfully care about body count. We obviously don’t reveal this, and even play along eg “why did think I’d care about body count? Be for real, do I seem like some kind of Reddit incel?” I can’t fathom the type of man that actually doesn’t care - ie not just willing to look past a high count. Are you based in Europe west of the Slavs by chance? Or the Anglosphere excl the US? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 07:28 PM |
| 8 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADWe’re totally just lying to hit 😭 are you not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 06:55 PM |
| 0 | RP isn’t synonymous with incels and hating women. RP discussion is best when based on observations of the reality we navigate, entirely free of judgment or bitternessI’ve fully realized I’m above my head from other comments, didn’t even know there were content creators and books, thought it just stayed a forum thing. Red pill isn’t the right term for sure. I see you’re a woman per your flair, so trying to choose an impactful example for “reality.” The trivialization of men’s preferences around modesty or intimate history isn’t a mere facet of feminist ideology, but pragmatic collusion among women. Not gonna argue if you find that to be incel-like. Otherwise,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 06:06 PM |
| -1 | RP isn’t synonymous with incels and hating women. RP discussion is best when based on observations of the reality we navigate, entirely free of judgment or bitterness“High value male” feels totally not RP and more aligned with bottom decile sustenance seeking type ie the sprinkle sprinkle women I think RP isn’t the right way to describe what I find valuable based on your comment and the response to post in general. The rejection of sugar coating (whether to serve egos or propriety) across genders in favor of plain concision felt unique to red pill spaces. Even more evident concepts like AFBB are shut down in most mainstream channels. So I guess I gotta find … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 04:38 PM |
| 1 | RP isn’t synonymous with incels and hating women. RP discussion is best when based on observations of the reality we navigate, entirely free of judgment or bitternessI think I’m not as in tune as I thought, I heard of fresh and fit before this, but I would have never thought of red pill from their stuff. I guess I’m more talking about how there’s a layer beneath what women say, both as a demographic and individually. And RP forums are the only place I’ve seen that addressed. Maybe I’m thinking of sm a layer of abstraction below any pill type content. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 03:58 PM |
| 3 | Women that say it’s controlling if a man doesn’t like their girl showing a lot of skin online or where other dudes can see: do you actually want us to agree that you do it for yourself not for men?It’s weird that women just happen to be super defensive of aligning with the male gaze, and in doing so disregard that men almost always approach while women plays a passive role to initiate courtship Is the takeaway that women presenting as available isn’t a thing? I’m trying to believe that I’m not just being a pushover, feels more and more delusional | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 03:53 PM |
| 1 | RP isn’t synonymous with incels and hating women. RP discussion is best when based on observations of the reality we navigate, entirely free of judgment or bitternessI’m 99% sure you’re disagree with me so - PUA is not the core of redpill. I’ve always seen it as a space that doesn’t fall in line with “women are wonderful” type rhetoric, is ok to discuss women to be just as opportunistic, self interested, and horny as men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 03:47 PM |
| -3 | Women that say it’s controlling if a man doesn’t like their girl showing a lot of skin online or where other dudes can see: do you actually want us to agree that you do it for yourself not for men?This is just playing the game too. This is why we play along. No one shows their bodies on the regular, at least not most women. Dressing a certain way when you go somewhere to meet an intimate partner is not really connected to usual behavior. I buy drinks for women when I’m single. Or like swipe up on their thirst traps, etc. Women aren’t told to avoid men that do so if they want a partner to cut it out in a relationship. I always assumed women vehemently reserved the right to play dumb as con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 03:41 PM |
| -1 | How do you define “victim blaming?” Is victim blaming ever ok? Should we hold men who abuse women accountable?I think a true RP mindset acknowledges women reject even the basic accountability to avoid obviously bad partners. Let alone that they condone and incentive everything a man does by sleeping with them or just being present in a flirty environment with them. Think about how frats are supposedly dens of assault and how men are so predatory spiking drinks at clubs etc. They still desperately compete to be the ones pretty enough to get in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/25 12:30 PM |
| 1 | I understand the value of protecting no-fault divorce and believe it should always be available. I don’t understand why some states only allow no-fault separation, ie fault divorce isn’t possible. Both should always be available.Pretty clear if you have a bit of time to poke around case databases. I have access to a LexisNexis account, but just barely since it’s through the spouse of a friend, many other quality sources exist though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 11:38 PM |
| 1 | I understand the value of protecting no-fault divorce and believe it should always be available. I don’t understand why some states only allow no-fault separation, ie fault divorce isn’t possible. Both should always be available.At least in my state and surrounding states, judges can unilaterally dismiss a prenup. There don’t need to substantiate impropriety or inequity or so on. This can be appealed of course, which is a huge undertaking, but even then, a judge isn’t bound by anything objective to dismiss a prenup. There is no way to definitively prove a prenup is “fair” despite a judge’s dismissal but the opposite is true - there are well defined factors for “unfair” like % marital asset split | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 11:11 PM |
| 9 | Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular?I’m not disagreeing with you. Women broadly reject the notion that they go to clubs to be pursued for sex. I think they’re entitled to the benefit of the doubt, but otherwise I think what you spelled out has always been the obvious explanation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 06:53 AM |
| 9 | Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular?This is pretty broadly rejected by women 🤷♂️ seems intuitive to me though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 06:42 AM |
| 2 | Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular?Very true, good point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular?Thought of this type of thing as bait rather than VIP treatment, but to each their own | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise.Nope, it’s definitely feasible for almost all men to lock down a partner they like well before “leftover” age. If you’re not overweight, get even cheap contemporary clothes that are the right size, and always maintain basic hygiene and grooming, it doesn’t matter if you’re short or even a bit weird / creepy. Exceptions aside like disfigurement, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 05:13 AM |
| 4 | Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular?I know it’s not all men 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 04:57 AM |
| 5 | Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular?Is it a really VIP treatment when it’s commonly understood to be in pursuit of sex? Or is it just compartmentalized? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 04:56 AM |
| 1 | Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise.Most men can’t easily hook up, that’s always been a privilege. Most can make it happen every now and then though, even our shot kings. More rarely, but sure. And I get the reasoning behind your point on raw lust. That doesn’t require being defeatist, thought, or assume that being attractive is all or nothing. Dating apps aren’t easy for most men, meeting organically requires demonstrating effort for most men, but I promise no one ever has to settle for leftovers. Most men can find a long term pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise.Yeah they can’t really hook up tbh. But they didn’t have to settle either, longer term relationships since young enough, mid 20s ish. Still don’t think a substantially expensive sex bot really makes sense. Sex toys sure, even nice ones, but more than one paycheck is probably too much to spend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 04:37 AM |
| 1 | Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise.Gotta be joking, serious self improvement would benefit short men much more than taller men. I only known 3 men under 5,6. All are doing just fine, one just got married to a great woman (yes attractive). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 04:31 AM |
| 4 | Night clubs, frats and similar spaces are widely criticized for their danger to women. Men that occupy these spaces are almost always the perpetrators. How do these spaces continue to draw women? Why do women-only versions remain unpopular?Those feel much rarer vs SA or related harm to women. Get your point though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 04:25 AM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)I hope women as a whole get wise to men, about this but across the board especially 🙏 deadbeat dads can’t keep getting away with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 11:54 PM |
| 1 | I understand the value of protecting no-fault divorce and believe it should always be available. I don’t understand why some states only allow no-fault separation, ie fault divorce isn’t possible. Both should always be available.I never said fault would be the only option, just that both no-fault and fault should be available. Many states on allow no-fault, I’m saying they should also (never exclusively) offer fault divorce too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 08:06 PM |
| 13 | I understand the value of protecting no-fault divorce and believe it should always be available. I don’t understand why some states only allow no-fault separation, ie fault divorce isn’t possible. Both should always be available.That husband was entitled to a quick and clean no fault process before cheating. And marriage should mean fidelity. Cheaters are at fault, so I don’t see the problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 07:57 PM |
| 0 | I understand the value of protecting no-fault divorce and believe it should always be available. I don’t understand why some states only allow no-fault separation, ie fault divorce isn’t possible. Both should always be available.No fault would still be around! I’m sure people or at least legal counsel wouldn’t prefer the more complicated alternative Willy nilly. Even the most two bit lawyer wouldn’t be greedy enough for fees to suggest taking the fault approach without very solid justification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 06:56 PM |
| 2 | I understand the value of protecting no-fault divorce and believe it should always be available. I don’t understand why some states only allow no-fault separation, ie fault divorce isn’t possible. Both should always be available.Courts don’t seem very shy to recoup costs with court fees, which divorce processes are not exempt from | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 06:47 PM |
| 3 | I understand the value of protecting no-fault divorce and believe it should always be available. I don’t understand why some states only allow no-fault separation, ie fault divorce isn’t possible. Both should always be available.The legal system would be just as involved with a prenup. Judges have essentially unchecked power to dismiss any prenup as well. Also, why penalize people who didn’t or couldn’t get a prenup for whatever reason? What if they were shamed or manipulated into not having one? What if they assumed certain things like fidelity are intuitive enough that a specific document isn’t necessary? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 06:46 PM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Call it misogynistic - no one wants to be the dweeb putting in serious effort to woo a woman after many men got her in bed without that kind of investment. Exclusivity and ease of access are crucial measures of a “prize.” Courtship culture isn’t just a set of expectations for a man, it requires some level of purity of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 05:16 PM |
| 1 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Sorry submitted as I was trying to add line breaks: Point is - if a woman expects special treatment, it’s not reasonable for her to be upset that her partner would consider her promiscuity an important factor. And on the flip side, promiscuity naturally becomes irrelevant when approaching a relationship as equals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:56 PM |
| 1 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)I sought a partner that didn’t have the “women are more special” mindset, and despite this thread and some incel adjacent ish sorta thinking for a while as a single dude, the thought of my partners past intimacy never really occurred. I don’t like to think about it, ofc, but I truly don’t care. And I think that only happens if there’s no pedestal in the picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:50 PM |
| 3 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)If she wanted to, she would 💅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:41 PM |
| 1 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Despite this whole thread, I’ve never been particularly sensitive to a partner’s intimate past (I do think it’s rational that some are). Women aren’t really penalized for high body count, they enjoy sex, and in most cities, can access it on demand. I assume this means very high counts are fairly common. And the frankly, men would do the same if they could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:36 PM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Where did I ask anyone to feel sorry at all 😭🙏 There is no ask of anyone here, just a statement that this standard will persist despite backlash, and no amount of highlighting it as a double standard or problematic is currently relevant. Realistically men know it’s best to deny caring in any case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:29 PM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)I was telling my partner something similar. Why is good for me to carry her inside if she falls asleep in the car, but I’m “too heavy” to bring in? It’s crazy we can’t have the same expectations of each other regarding every factor. I think I enabled her by giving in on the engagement ring. I said I wanted to her to buy a ring and propose, put photos of it on IG. She said that’d be embarrassing so we could break up or the proposal needed to be from me 😑 hello we are equals? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 03:09 PM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)I agree. This is by and large rejected by women though, so I didn’t mention. For whatever reason, this is considered untrue and / or irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 02:49 PM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)I totally agree, but afaik this is one reason why men aren’t always honest about whether they care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 02:15 PM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)There are religious pockets of the country for sure, but by and large women are free to be as intimate as they please. I’m not a huge fan Islamic approach, but the gender roles for women are definitely stricter for them, so they may as well be demanding of male suitors. We try to have to both ways - women and men are equal but women should still be the prize. Not true universally, but widely accepted. The princess culture thing is not common outside more disadvantaged and / or very socially cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise.Unless $200,000 is a trivial amount of money, think about how investing that much into self improvement would change your life. Or even if they get down to $20,000 - imagine $20,000 to book a personal trainer session every day for 6 months. I guess it would be weird since these will probably be expensive for a long time, that you’d choose to spend such a large amount of money on this. I think it a $20 simple alternative like a flashlight wouldn’t make you seem like a freak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 01:04 PM |
| 0 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)That’s what made me say (afaik), I don’t know the relationship preferences of everyone I’ve ever met, and I didn’t expect that I could by sight if someone is poly. I made this point elsewhere, but promiscuity feels irrelevant to more egalitarian connections. Do you think it helps that Germany has fewer legacy gender role expectations vs the US and most other countries? This was many years ago in Munich, but I thought that I was getting pranked when my date put her card down on mine for the check… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 12:51 PM |
| 1 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Appreciate the insight. I also think it’s super interesting how Im entirely disconnected from people with the lifestyle you describe. Even in the a super liberal city in a very LGBT heavy community, I don’t know of any poly type people (afaik). The closest is friends that gave up 5 minutes into a FL account | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 11:35 AM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)As valid as filtering for promiscuity is currently, I think it’ll fade and rarely come up in a healthier dating environment. Gay and lesbian couples don’t think about intimate history nearly as much. In large part because they didn’t have millennia of gender role baggage like het relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 09:39 AM |
| 6 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Apparently American women age 18 to 30 have ~2.6 lifetime intimate partners so far. Assuming the partner count is 0 on the youngest end and a linear distribution, we top out at 5 partners as a high estimate for average partners among women aged ~30. Regardless, I bet 5 will be considered naively low | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 09:27 AM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Agreed - I don’t think it’d come up in general, especially not around casual dating or sex. Not sure why anyone would be forthcoming about something most partners strongly dislike | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 09:17 AM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Off topic a little and maybe I’m wrong: I bet you and even the most die hard of your opinion would look past 100 bodies for the right woman that worshipped you. I don’t think it can really stand in isolation as a standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 09:10 AM |
| 3 | Women do actually hate the idea of sex robots despite saying otherwise.I promise there are many legitimate concerns around legalizing SW and especially brothels (distinct concept btw) that women care about far more than competing away men in general. Frankly the whole “top x% of men…” theory alone means the men that women desire likely wouldn’t frequent paid SWs. The real concerns range from providing cover for trafficking to potential trauma to unsuspecting victims to grooming for minors into the industry, and so on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 07:07 AM |
| 1 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Fair enough. Either way, I’ve never noticed a link between personal relationship preferences and social circles in academic and professional spaces. I’m not even sure how friend groups and networks would at all be based on sexual proclivities. We dont take classes or pursue hobbies or work in industries based on how much we like sleeping around lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 05:59 AM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)I guess I’m just unclear on the line between illogical and acceptable. If your sisters boyfriend says he’d expect an engagement ring and proposal from her to consider getting married, is she logical to find that off putting or end the relationship? I wouldn’t think so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 05:54 AM |
| 1 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Genuinely asking, not arguing at all - what is the fatal error? I might not be communicating effectively, I think anyone can disagree and / or consider a man incompatible based on almost anything, including based on his preferences around promiscuity. I just don’t get why discrepancy in your comment - devaluing for women, value accretive to men - is controversial while many other asymmetries have always existed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 05:38 AM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Sure thing - I and most in my circles don’t consider promiscuity to be shameful or otherwise negative. Preferring less promiscuity in a partner does not require disrespect. I’m very happily engaged and never thought about my partners past, so this is more outside-in from men and women I’m friends with. I don’t care about promiscuity, I’m saying people arent wrong if they do care. To answer your question, a minority of men I know actually care strongly, they’re generally indistinguishable tbh. Ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 05:30 AM |
| 6 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)If the men that care would rarely come across promiscuous women, isn’t it almost a non issue? Based on the immediate accusations of insecurity, I assume you like most women find preferences around intimate history to be offputting. I’m not sure why it would matter, though, if it’s only common among men you wouldn’t want anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:55 AM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)No one is ever justified to shame someone for their promiscuity. Preferring a less promiscuous partner is totally compatible with maintaining respect for people across the spectrum. Women aren’t shaming short men by preferring tall men, for example. This isn’t meant to influence anyone’s decisions either, purely just saying numerous double standards exist, promiscuity isn’t some rare example of differing implications for men vs women. There’s been discussion both on this sub and broadly that thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:43 AM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Agreed, but I also don’t think it’s that simple. If certain standards are shamed or dismissible, people aren’t exactly free to have whatever standards they want. Some women prefer men that do not consume or have rarely consumed pornographic content. However, they may be shamed as anti-SW or as insecure and deal with dishonesty from potential partners. Women generally don’t consider promiscuity a valid standard, and generally shame men that care about promiscuity. Lying about intimate history is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Do men prefer no makeup/surgery, and should women tell when they've had surgery?My personal preference on facial cosmetic surgery: it should feel plausibly natural. A new acquaintance at a dinner, for example, shouldn’t be able to tell with certainty you’ve had any procedures. I feel like lip filler genuinely looks so trashy in almost every case, and it’d be embarrassing to have a partner / date with visibly injected lips. Even small volumes (0.3mL) can create that trademark “she doesnt belong here” shadow, so prevalent even I’ve picked up on the numbers here. Body enhancem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Men and women are not the same that is okay.I’ll agree to disagree on women seeking higher earners, it definitely varies by region, culture, age, etc. I also prefer looking at relationship data instead of what people claim to want. People may claim or post that they don’t expect xyz. But the majority of het relationships, even among younger people, are women dating men with higher income. The hours worked bit might reveal what I’m trying to explain. The actual dollar amount contributed is clearly what matters. Spending is in USD, not your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 08:37 PM |
| -1 | Men and women are not the same that is okay.Women still expect men to earn more and contribute more to finances, not actual 50/50 split of expenses. Despite this, they expect an even split of non-financial responsibilities (domestic labor). This is easy to observe in discussions around how responsibilities are shared. The consensus is usually that expenses should be split proportionally based on each partner’s income, but housework should be a truly equal split. As women almost always earn less than their male partner, women pay less than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 08:16 PM |
| 0 | Men and women are not the same that is okay.Maybe it’s just bias from what I’ve seen. By basic domestic duties, I mean for example folding laundry as part of an even schedule of chores, especially the family has children at all. Frankly, women see equal financial responsibility as overachieving by itself. Domestic labor, generally sensitive topic, on top hasn’t worked out. The usual justification is childbirth related risks, pain, opportunity costs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 07:48 PM |
| -3 | Men and women are not the same that is okay.That could have been clearer, mb. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the 50/50 bills and chores type relationship work out. I believe women resent even basic domestic duties for a man if he doesn’t lighten their financial load. Not necessarily all bills, but meaningfully more. Would be interested in others’ thoughts, if I’m reading this wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 07:35 PM |
| -3 | Men and women are not the same that is okay.I wholeheartedly agree, why it’s so hilarious to see the same old talking points on body count for men vs women, income, responsibility in a relationship, etc. Even very clear consequences are ignored - newsflash my guys, women only expect to finance and clean up after their children. But this can never be tactfully absorbed until we see men generally stop the overly specific equal split arguments. And ofc women allow basic ebb and flow to address legislation that coddles them like babies, presu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 07:12 PM |
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