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Purge Week!ThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:05 PM
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CMVThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:27 PM
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DiscussionThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:24 PM
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CMVThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:57 PM
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Purge week!ThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 03:51 PM
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ScienceThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:25 PM
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Purge week!ThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:09 PM
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Purge week!ThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:59 AM
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DiscussionThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 04:01 PM
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CMVThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 03:34 PM
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ScienceThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:42 PM
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Purge Discussion!ThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:26 AM
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Purge week!ThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:12 PM
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DiscussionThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:27 AM
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DiscussionThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:59 PM
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Purge week!ThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:03 PM
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Purge CMV!ThePleasureIsAllMind/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:13 PM
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At least that day won’t be an objective net positive for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:19 AM
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Well at least he’s an expert on dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:21 AM
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It’s not an insult, it’s the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:10 AM
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Peak incel: “This pornstar interview proves what I’ve been saying about women!”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:09 AM
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Yes, losers tend to dread situations where they have to reveal that they’re losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:11 PM
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It’s a global economy and that’s stuff found its way to our shores about 2.5 seconds after it it sprung up over there. It’s literally a difference that makes no difference. Within the culture here American incels are slurping up animated waifus just as easily as their Japanese counterparts. That is the definition of meaningless. Tell me again how feminists have actually stopped Western boys from consuming all the animated tits they can get their hands on. I love laughing at stories of scared lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:40 PM
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Who cares where it ExIsTs MoStLy. Western men sure found their way to the AI tits, didn’t they? They’re not imprisoned because of it, are they? There’s nothing stopping them from making their own, is there? This is where I usually get hit with the weak-willed Bu-bu-bu-feminist criticisms… but the facts stay facts: there’s not a single feminist critic standing in the way of your cartoon boobs because whether it’s from loudmouth radfems or weepy Drama Queen OP, random. Criticism. Means. Shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:26 PM
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What’s there to debate? “This lead character designed to be a goof because it’s a fucking comedy makes me sad for some reason and it’s all your fault. Wah wah.” Daffy Duck is probably a war crime to him. As for all that other stuff…well, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:18 PM
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Last I checked, video game tits are still such good business that they’re now making AI video game tits so yeah, your strawgirl argument is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:48 PM
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Two meaningless bitchings make a right? Hey, OP: if you want to enjoy your video game tits, enjoy your video game tits. Otherwise, who gives a fuck about Homer Simpson unless you personally identify with Homer Simpson.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:39 PM
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This man is in his feelings over CARTOON CHARACTERS! Nothing softer than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:05 PM
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Anyone else have a hard time understanding this post over the sound of self-loathing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:44 PM
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"no u" is very inferior male. Thank you for demonstrating what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:26 AM
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I didn't think it was necessary to point out that non-rapists get laid all the time too but I briefly forgot where I was. Lemme break it down for the smoothbrains: non-rapists >>>>>>> rapists >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redpill and incels (<-- you are here)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:18 PM
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Who swore up and down that he was a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:15 PM
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The question isn't "Why would women rather be with a rapist than me?" The question is "How am I so disgustingly foul that a rapist is seen as a better option than me?" And that's a valid question. Nice Guys: imagine being so thoroughly unfuckable that the risk of getting killed is preferable to living through a night with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:56 PM
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But bad comparisons are cringy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:39 PM
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"no u" is very inferior male. Thank you for demonstrating what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:29 PM
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You’ve stopped making sense a while back but I want to emphasize that you have no idea what I actually am because I’m just a username and an avatar. Welcome to Reddit, that’s all anyone here is! And that’s why using the input of people here for “experiment” and “discussion” purposes is…pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:35 PM
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Yes, I’m shitting on people doing stuff I think is worth shitting on. I’m nothing if not consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:19 PM
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Better it says about someone who actually takes what goes on in reddit seriously enough to try to bother other forums about it and then cry like a baby when it doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:15 PM
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I’m sure the world can’t wait for for the 968,623rd variant of “Muh face bones and high-n wimmen, amirite?”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:13 PM
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Oh no, some incel’s pointless prank in Online Forum A isn’t getting oxygen in Online Forum B. Better spend a few more hours to see if Online Forums C, D, or E will give your pet project attention. Very productive. Very relevant!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:11 PM
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Spending more time and effort trying to spark “discussions” and “prove points” exclusively on Reddit than engaging real people in the human being world is pathetic. And it’s the sign of someone too cowardly to try to be relevant where it matters. Creating a life where the only person whose opinion you can get is OnlineShitposter42069 and a bunch of other Chronically Online clones is sad, embarrassing, and decidedly non-getting-bitcheslike behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 02:09 PM
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It contributes more than running around Reddit playing little rhetoric pranks on people and then making videos about it! Or simping for the guy who did that and begging other redditors to talk about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:59 PM
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And redditors wonder why they get no bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:45 PM
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Is it really that terrible to read a book and learn a joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:25 AM
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Reddit badassery always boils down to “I’ll get my revenge by doing nothing. That’ll show those people who don’t even know me in the first place!” Y’all are so weak and impotent the worst thing you can imagine yourselves doing is literally nothing. Very edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 12:10 PM
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You just described the mental process of weak-willed men. The type of men it’s easy to con into a timeshare. Those men never get “forced” because his lack of a moral core (and possibly his low intelligence) makes him change before any outside force does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 12:57 PM
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Imagine being so awful you have to whine and cry to the government to give you girls because you can’t find one like millions of regular ol’ dudes can.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 02:55 AM
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OP says “women are happier single,” but is posting with the anger of someone who knows the real truth: women are happiest when not with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 05:24 PM
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Oh dear. How much money have you spent on promises to become like the men in those accounts? You can be honest with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:31 PM
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You know guys who pose with multiple women like that aren’t actually “Chad” and usually aren’t fucking all those women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:44 PM
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Ah so the only difference in the meme is you want to be the man who already spent the money on the girls, not the man being spotted getting the money for the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:33 PM
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You got all that from the guy in the bottom pic? LOL, a guy like that will do fine anywhere. Anyone who expects to be that guy just by landing in the east is destined for top guy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:28 PM
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Leaving the west makes men in shape and charismatic?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:23 PM
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Be attractive and learn how to pick your spots. How is any of this new? Are you 12?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:02 PM
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But…that’s what therapists do. A good therapist will do what’s in their power and then send you along to people and places that do everything else with the coping skills that they taught you (assuming you listened). Or, god forbid, tell you what you can do for yourself. It’s that second part that people bitch about. They think the therapist should also be the headhunter and then run to the internet complaining how they haven’t been given free pussy a job by their therapist. They think therapists…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:42 PM
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If ten years worth of doctors fail to fix your broken leg then you probably don’t have a broken leg.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:27 PM
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You sound like every client who walks into a therapist’s office and starts acting like the trained professional in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:09 PM
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The problem with the therapy field is, unlike, say medicine or law, the commoner thinks they know enough to diagnose and treat themselves and the professional is just there to dispense validation and self-prescribed cures. When you have a heart problem, you don’t see different cardiologists for ten years hunting for the diagnosis that you like. You take their word for it, get a second opinion maybe, and follow their treatment. Or don’t and see where that lands you… Are there people who can’t be …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:08 PM
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There are bad therapists but there are also bad clients. If you’ve been sincerely trying for 10 years, I got some bad news for you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:52 PM
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Just don’t be That Engineer: the guy who defines himself by his male-dominated career and his male-dominated social circle and his male-dominated hobbies. Then he looks up and thinks: “where all the women?!”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:50 PM
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What? You gave it a whole three sessions before you realized the therapist wasn’t going to give you a free 10/10 to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:45 PM
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And if you paid attention to that scenario the woman abuser is actually gaining even more support now. Which further proves OP point. If you think he’s wrong then just say it. By who? With almost 8 billion people in the world it’s safe to assume a few of them have bad takes. But if that’s who OP wants to listen to and believe speaks for all of society, that’s his prerogative I guess. Kinda makes him a crybaby though… I think OPs main issue is that women usually don’t have to be constructive if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:28 PM
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We’ve seen this type before. If it were from personal experience he would’ve led with that. It would be his username and his flair. “What if the roles were reversed?” is the go-to tactic of someone who just wants to talk/cry without putting any experience or thought into their words. We know that men can be abuse victims. There was a whole celebrity shitshow trial earlier this year speaking to that. Pretending like society isn’t evolving is just being stupid. Whether the stupidity is willful or …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:14 PM
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Because he’s crying. Like a baby. More specifically, he’s not an abuse victim. He just saw some dumbass post something on social media and wants to pretend that all of society thinks that way so he can “whatabout” his way to free victim points, an apology and a gold star from Reddit. It’s lame and has been done to the point of cliche. If you’re going to cry, cry about something specific that someone specific has done to you, not what you think those evil evil normies believe but never had the st…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:02 PM
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Because OP’s entire post is based on a hypothetical reaction to a hypothetical situation. I could just as easily say “Man giving the woman the silent treatment: good, she deserves it” because I guarantee you there are plenty of people who think this way. Homeboy’s trying to claim victim points not out of any abuse he’s actually faced but because of some shitposts he probably saw on Reddit or TikTok. He knows the awareness of men being abused is growing and his days of lazily spouting “what-if-th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:56 PM
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Women who are abused have actually been abused. People who post strawmen about the perceived slights of society (even though more and more people are getting woke to the fact that men can be abuse victims too) are crybabies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:36 PM
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Have you considered the possibility that you deserve all this treatment because you’re a massive crybaby?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:33 PM
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I think enough time has passed to come to a conclusion: how much sex have incels had since Elon Musk bought Twitter? I’m pretty sure Daddy Elon was gonna help the incels get revenge on girls or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 04:45 PM
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Just go mail-order, pops.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:22 PM
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I don’t want to sound offensive but are you neurodivergent? The fuck kind of way is this to have a conversation?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:57 AM
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And how much time have you spent looking at how many comments I made? Are you at a really long stop light or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 10:14 PM
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Complaining is one thing. But a lot of complaints here come with a snotty defeatist attitude that blames their problems on women/society/“Chad”/anyone who doesn’t validate their BS—with no interest in introspection and no resolve to make better of themselves. They literally laugh off any suggestion with the “just X bro” meme. This shows below-average self-esteem, below-average perseverance, below-average responsibility, and below-average maturity, just to name a few. Like I said, these intangibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:52 PM
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Okay, here are my stats: 0 times advocating for government intervention to fix my sex life 0 times crying about “Chad” 0 times thinking “it’s over” because of less-than-perfect looks Less than 100% reliance on dating apps; > 0% exposure to the real world 0 times blaming “female nature” when I failed to close the deal That alone is more than what a lot of PPD guys can claim, and I’m not special at all. This means that a lot do PPD guys are way below “not special” a.k.a. below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:25 PM
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Because I felt like it and it’s my post? If you want to talk about women, Reddit’s a pretty intuitive app, make your own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:18 PM
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Are you in favor of government interventions to get people sex like one would in times of high unemployment? A Sex New Deal? P.S. society will be fine. Those who need to have sex are having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 09:06 PM
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“Average” is in quotes because that’s what the guys here call themselves when they clearly are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:37 PM
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If you're here to say that average isn't good enough, I’m very much not saying that and I don’t know what made you think I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:30 PM
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Sex isn’t employment, sex isn’t medicine, sex isn’t food, water or anything else you guys try to poorly equate it to. It’s sex. Get it together.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:45 PM
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You’ve perfectly described the pointlessness in trying to calculate your “market value.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:17 PM
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Don’t use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:14 PM
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Maybe bottom 30% is by definition below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:33 PM
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The words people spew on this sub. People here aren’t afraid to share how below-average they are. They don’t mean to, but they do it nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:35 PM
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Incel and red pill types tend to short circuit whenever a man doesn’t share in their pity party: A…man? Who doesn’t hate women? And has a…HEALTHY outlook on life?! You can see their little minds BSOD in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:13 PM
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People hate reading flairs around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:03 PM
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I’m not saying it’s “all about” personality but fuck man, if you’re not good looking (and good looking people don’t hate on other good looking people for being good looking so…) you better compensate with something. A negative plus a negative is only going to equal a bigger negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:02 PM
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“Average and ugly.” You’re not slick trying to lump below-average men with average men. This is what I’m talking about: significantly flawed guys hitching themselves to average dudes saying “Yep, you and I are one in the same. Just two hopeless average dudes. Women, amirite?” No. You’re not on their level. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:49 PM
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And have you thought about where that threshold is for someone to date an average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:46 PM
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You only need to look good and forget about the rest. I have seen more than enough idiots with the personality of a rock who were succesful with women because they looked good. I’m sure “idiot with the personality of a rock” is an objective assessment of another man, taking in the point of view of someone attracted to men, and not at all sour grapes resentment. I am perfectly average and yeah, it is impossible to get a relationship. I have accepted it though. No one is worthy of me anyways. Your…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:43 PM
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I think a big part of the complaint is that for an average guy, if you do want someone, you have to settle for far less than what you'd want in a partner. Essentially someone who's made a shitload of mistakes, needs therapy, and comes to you as her final final recourse. Oh no! We can’t have an average guy with a flawed partner. After all, the definition of average is “flawless.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 01:37 PM
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“Peace be upon him.” -Red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:39 PM
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You can treat someone like a king or queen, plan an entire day around them, shower them with compliments, go the extra mile to make them feel special. You can do all that out of genuine love and affection while both parties still know, as a matter of fact, that they’re not actually royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:25 PM
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So if during the course of your married life you run across someone who has even a little more of whatever qualities you consider “sexy” in your partner, should you monkey branch?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:35 PM
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Considering there can only be one “sexiest person in the world,” is this not an argument for hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:23 PM
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You’re obviously a special case. You’re going to hold out while she’s at work or visiting family or not in the mood or sick?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:04 PM
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Yeah, I don’t know OP’s age and situation but I definitely had periods where I was young, incredibly uncomfortable in my own skin, and convinced that if I did so much as blink wrong I would lose a girl forever to a guy who blinked perfectly. Hopefully he grows out of it. What is a relationship if you can’t tease each other about your hall passes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:57 AM
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No, I’m just not a weirdo who thinks “Wow, these two girls are hot. I wonder if one is hotter than the other…” But to put things in your terms, obviously she’s not the hottest woman alive. Obviously. But it doesn’t mean she’s not still tops in my mind, even compared to some 22-year-old starlet. Is that not all that matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:26 AM
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At a certain point hot is hot. Only an obsessive puts everyone in tiers like that. I think she’s ridiculous attractive and [place hot celebrity here] couldn’t come between us if she tried. That’s all that matters. Anything more is unnecessary mental micromanagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:16 AM
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I do. By not treating her like an idiot and pretending I don’t find any celebrity hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:11 AM
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I’m not placing anyone above anyone. I’m just acknowledging the reality that A: I’m not the sexiest man alive and B: some celebrity who’s never going to come anywhere close to us is no threat. Why aren’t you castigating me for having celebrity crushes of my own? I hope you’re at least consistent in this ridiculous standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:06 AM
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I want my friends to think I’m the funniest guy alive. I want to be treated like a king at a fancy hotel. But that doesn’t mean I’m trying to book a Netflix comedy special or walk around wearing a crown and expecting to be called “Your Highness.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 01:01 AM
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Dramatic much? There’s a difference between finding someone (who you’ll never meet in life) hot and “openly thirsting for the dick”. I’m just glad she didn’t overreact when I told her mine. I’d be dating a literal crazy lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:56 AM
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Why don’t you ask people to sprout wings and fly instead? I have celebrity crushes. My girl has celebrity crushes. Everyone has celebrity crushes. You mean to tell me that you’re willing to refuse retreating to Fantasyland even once after you get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:50 AM
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They just want to be treated like it. Only the most clinically disconnected from reality woman actually believes she is. And even if you think all women are insane (because that’s how this sub rolls), aren’t you supposed to rise above that as part of the Reasonable Sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:39 AM
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Oh no! You’re not the sexiest man who ever lived and there’s a chance the woman you end up with may know that? You have my deepest thoughts and prayers. Bitches, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 12:31 AM
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“I don’t need to understand the language of the script. I just have to recite all my lines phonetically and I’ll give the best acting performance the world has ever seen!”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:02 PM
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So let me get this straight: you’re not only looking for examples of women being convinced to do something, but specific word-for-word examples…when you yourself have never been convinced to do anything. No wonder their experiences are flying over your head—you have no frame of reference! These stories and examples sound like a foreign language to you because you’ve never even come close to being persuaded yourself. This is like trying to cook the best steak when you’ve never even eaten meat in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:55 PM
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I honestly can’t tell you. It was years ago, they were talking about animals and shelters. I like animals and wanted to help them. It was a nice day and I felt a little generous so I give them some money. It helped that this canvasser wasn’t as pushy or intrusive as canvassers usually are. But again: the words slip my mind after all these years. Let’s try a different approach: you tell us what kind of answer you want by giving us an example. Tell us about a time someone convinced you to do somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:43 PM
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And that’s why people are giving you the answers they’re giving you. If I give my money to some charity worker canvassing on the corner, it’s not because they said some magic words that made me open up my wallet. It’s because they said something that either made me sympathetic to their cause, feel like giving money is a reasonable thing to do, or otherwise incentivized me to give. What that exact thing was isn’t very important because they could’ve said something else and it would’ve worked too …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:34 PM
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And is that exact thing they said the only way they could have gotten you to do it? Could it have worked if they used synonyms? Or a different approach (serious instead of humorous, personal instead of objective? Etc.)? Could they have used fewer words? Could they have emoted more or less when using those words? Would it have worked if they had texted you those words instead of spoken them to you? I could go on but the point is things don’t work because the exact formula was found. Things work b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:23 PM
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People are trying to give you examples and you keep pushing back for specific word-for-word interactions. Nobody thinks that way though. Especially if they’re thinking back to a conversation they had years ago. Here’s how people think: “This person said something in some way that made me laugh/think/curious/horny/etc.” That’s it. Nobody cares about the exact words that were used. Just how the conversation made them feel. If you can’t proceed without specific wording then you’re never ever going …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:13 PM
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You can’t possibly be this obtuse. Like, you have to understand that human communication isn’t just a series of combination locks being solved with an exact permutation of the approximately 170,000 words in the English language that can then be used to unlock a completely different person’s lock. Tell us you understand at least that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:04 PM
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Aw fuck, one of those tell-me-word-for-word-what-to-say-because-god-forbid-I-use-my-brain-to-think-on-the-fly advice threads. If you want a script for human interaction, you need classes far more remedial than Reddit can give.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:50 PM
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You may want to tell your people in the “Women-live-life-on-easy-mode-boo-hoo” thread from earlier today. Or the “Women-don’t-sympathize-with-us-because-they-have-it-easy-boo-hoo” thread from even earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:54 AM
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There is no such thing as an incel Well that’s not true at all. Look, if you don’t like the label, you can change the label. Call yourselves “swizzywompuses” if you want. And if you still go around being angry and bitter and hateful because of your unattended pee pees, we’ll just call you swizzywompuaes. I think it’s easier to simply change the shitty behavior, but that’s just me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:29 AM
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Yeah kinda. Because you're implying that most men are complaining are in that extreme. No, most men don’t even know what a Reddit is. And most men on Reddit don’t participate in PPD. And I would like to believe that even most men on PPD aren’t the angry cry babies who get called out. BUT, that “extreme” still exists. And no matter what the size of that extreme is, they deserve the backlash they get for being angry cry babies. Well that's the point of the post. Anytime a guy complains in frustrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:22 AM
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Am I making up all the angry bitching and moaning from sexless guys blaming everything from women to social media to Netflix shows that we see on a daily basis? If you don’t like being called out for acting like an incel, don’t act like an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:05 AM
2

It’s not shaming if it’s true. (Don’t forget “cry baby.” A lot of y’all are also garden variety cry babies.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:27 AM
6

Yeah that’s why they keep strategizing ways to collect plates and get casual NSA sex just for existing. You can’t seek ways to manipulate women into sex like a true “alpha fucks” and then do uwu “I just want someone to love” eyes when it doesn’t work. And even if you are genuine the fact remains: nobody on the internet truly cares about your love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:16 PM
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Now now, let’s be fair: nobody cares about the dating struggles of some anonymous schmuck who spends 500 words whining about not getting his dick wet. That’s what real friends are for. And no, your digital allies in inceldom don’t count because they’re also gonna leave your ass the second they get to touch a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:22 PM
9

Tell me you still don’t understand why your girl left you despite being repeatedly told without telling me you still don’t understand why your girl left you despite being repeatedly told.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:30 PM
1

Love is Blind? The Bachelor? Some other trashy reality TV? What’s important is that these girls—like any sane well-adjusted human—watch this stuff as spectators, not because they’re looking for honesty. Fuck me this is the only place where “touch grass” isn’t just a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:50 PM
1

They’re popular with moms and 50-year-old secretaries who host book clubs. This may also come as a shock, but Fabio also isn’t the rage with hot young singles anymore. And didn’t the couple from 50 Shades end up married anyway? I’m not menopausal so I can’t say for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 08:14 PM
9

Nothing says “an authority on what 20-year-old women think” like Sex and the City and Cosmo references.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 12:22 AM
16

Never has the “half eaten hot dog on the ground” meme been expressed so earnestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:17 PM
17

Serious response: why can’t it all be true? She can be not that into you, more interested in other options, and feel like being friendly to a stranger out of boredom that day (not knowing the psycho Reddit rant that stranger would go on because of it). Take responsibility for the conclusions you drew on your own. You are capable of being wrong from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:15 PM
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FFS I don’t even try to engage with this sub all that deeply and I can still tell where this specific brand of feckless impotent whining comes from. Are you doing this on a daily basis? It’s like a space alien learning and relearning that life on earth isn’t fair yet never being any less baffled by that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:10 PM
0

Women don’t mind men crying in a context where crying makes sense. They just don’t like it when men cry about everything all the time. Of course, judging from your OP and replies, the latter probably applies to you more than the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:05 PM
4

You know, it takes significantly less effort to just be a citizen of the real world than it does to sit on Reddit and conjure up conspiracy theories to whine about your lack of success on a seemingly daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:38 AM
4

Exactly. Or just dumb luck and/or the wrong target. Do these guys live in a world where everyone succeeds at dating after the first attempt so their getting a no or two is some grave injustice the world must stop for? The lumps would put them on the road to success if they weren’t the biggest quitters they world has ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:10 PM
4

Just because you hear the same responses doesn’t mean the responses aren’t true. If you want to hear a different solution come with a different problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:53 PM
3

Yes, maybe you’ll be the one to successfully cry his way into women’s pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:49 PM
8

Still find someone to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 12:36 AM
8

Don’t worry, OP. Someone who can’t grasp the basic fundamentals of multitasking won’t need to bother with other adult responsibilities like a relationship or kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:21 PM
1

OnlyFans girls and Instagram thirst traps don’t take time out of theirs days to get roasted by two “reformed” Nice Guys who never got over their high school rejections for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 03:20 PM
11

This sub is crawling with guys who, when it comes to women and dating, have the minds of children though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 04:00 AM
9

Some people might, maybe a very tiny sliver of an intelligent minority. But nobody in that tiny minority would run out and ask people why the thing they heard on their fake podcast is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 03:51 AM
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Only dorks listen to podcasts that pay women to come on and say whatever the dorks want to hear. “Masculinity podcasts” are for losers who still get fooled by professional wrestling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 03:30 AM
4

Confirmed: all the garbage men here complain about with afbb 8020 chad etc. is just excuse-making for them being shit in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:26 PM
7

Oh joy. Can’t wait to see mentally ill redditors analyze mentally ill celebrity behavior. I’m sure this conversation will be grounded in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:25 PM
3

“Nobody on my internet screen will show me what average people look like. Guess I have no other choice but to look to this other screen for examples. Not like there are average people literally fucking everywhere!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:24 PM
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Yeah it’s not like the potential for women to deceive hasn’t been portrayed since Adam and fucking Eve. Christ, feckless chumps who can’t make their own decisions and let people walk all over them get what they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:44 PM
31

Almost as if there are more people in the real world than in some far-flung subculture for lonely dudes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:06 PM
2

Women want older Chad, to use Loserspeak, not just any average old guy. There’s a difference between “experienced older man who can make them orgasm” and “tubby middle aged accountant who needs boner pills, never learned to eat pussy and has no plans to start now.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:53 PM
2

Okay, I’m going to try to ask as diplomatically as possible so I don’t get dinged: as you sad because you’re not the guy these women are having fun with or are you genuinely sad for men and women you don’t know? Because the men and women having sex are doing fine. The “betas” who are still living their best lives are doing fine. The only people who are sad right now are the men who missed out on being a hot 20something yet are stubbornly refusing to make the best out of their situation. And fran…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:06 PM
1

I’ll remember this next time a red piller gets in his feelings because “men want to feel wanted too…”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:21 PM
1

These men are not going to go live in the woods, they are not just going to stop stamp their feet and cry like a child. They’re stamping their feet and crying like children right now. They reduce output, they take the piss easy jobs that pay enough to get by, they don't have kids, they just sit by and do their own shit and it gets worse each generation that passes. There are a lot of people complaining about “staffing shortages” who wish these grunts would hurry up and start taking this piss eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:19 PM
3

So if someone said they look down on people who change their worldview based on TRP, would you abandon TRP? Look, I don’t know you from Adam but it sounds TRP caught you at a time when your identity was malleable. Congrats on finding your tribe I guess but a more secure simp or a more secure slut isn’t going to change their ways because some internet creeps tried shaming them. Imagine your internet “reputation” mattering. I mean really!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:06 PM
1

Oh, then you’re just lying to each other to make yourselves feel better. Well who can pass up a good circlejerk? “I was angry and unpleasant in high school, socially stunted in college, less dedicated to fitness in my mid 20s, and staunchly opposed to personal growth in my late 20s? Why won’t Instagram models fuck me? Why do I have to settle for similarly unattractive women? Must be because women can’t be loyal.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:52 PM
1

So then why, even after legal sex slavery and using women/families as property have been practically phased out, are we still going? Must be some different, more important motivator. Here’s the bottom line: any grunt who decides to just stop working and “opt out” is going to find himself cold, hungry, and at the mercy of other cold hungry grunts long before he starts worrying about getting his dick wet. Any grunt who disagrees is free to prove us wrong right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:48 PM
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It is the part of TRP who are trying to spread ideas of AF BB, shaming simps and sluts that I seek to explain. Good luck with all that. Simps and sluts don’t give a damn with people think if they’re not providing tit pics or cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:39 PM
2

Six of one, half dozen of the other. The conclusion on how to deal with it is the same. By the way, ugly people hook up with ugly people all the time. Sorry if they wanted models.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:35 PM
1

Do men want kids? Do they want to be taken care of? Do they want love and personal validation? Then they better make some hard decisions because there aren’t enough hot 22 year olds to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:32 PM
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The reason society was a success at all was because of grunts and there ability to get a woman and have a family motivated them to do the grunt work, now there are more numbers who just aren't bothering and so you end up with a society that will fail at some point (other things compound on this as well) I thought it was a universal desire to eat, have shelter, and not be murdered by predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:29 PM
2

Yeah the first thing I think whenever I see a guy babble about AFBB is, “He sure sounds happy!” Look, marry or don’t. Nobody really cares. Just don’t blame women (or they men they were with for that matter) for sexing it up in their youths. You could’ve sexed it up with them if you made some different choices. But these guys didn’t. Ah well. A conspiracy theory that conveniently absolves them of all personal responsibility isn’t going to turn back the clock or make their lives any less miserable…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:21 PM
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Oh god, this shit. There aren’t enough undersex men in the world to cause a collapse even if they all stage a “nobody will touch my penis” strike at the same time. They’re going to be replaced by men who either get sex or aren’t so whiny about lack of sex that they think LDAR’ing is a viable alternative. They’ll also be replaced by lower class women—the very kind who’s always invisible to men here anyway. Either way, we’ll be fine. Again: we’ll help you pack!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:13 PM
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I don’t think that’s quite how leverage works. If you want something but can’t afford it you can’t keep decreasing your offer and hoping the other party will eventually say “SOLD!” How do you increase investment? By increasing value. Maxed out your value? Find someone who will invest less.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:09 PM
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Yeah, but “enough men” need to do it. Exactly how many men do you think actually want to go without all that stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:56 PM
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You could’ve stopped at the first line. I think AF/BB is bullshit but am entertaining it for the sake of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:50 PM
1

I’ll give you credit: that’s the most honest representation of TRP I’ve read. There you go, boys. Listen to a bunch of anonymous internet people who are going to fuck with your mind and then leave you high and dry for the lulz. That’s a deal too good to pass up!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:43 PM
2

Wasn’t always that guy until PPD. This sub is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:40 PM
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How are BB going to have families (or, to put it in incelspeak, “sPrEaD tHeIr GeNeS.”) if they don’t accept a woman? Any guy who is so upset that he wasn’t hot when he was young can ragequit society today. No one will care, we’ll help them pack. But the system ain’t gonna collapse because these dudes know that having their bluff called means no family, no kids, no bangmaid, no validation, none of the squishy emotional stuff they pretend to not care about until you catch them in an honest moment …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:39 PM
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A legitimate program that’s actually interested in helping someone like that would have real job placement resources that could help, or at least can point them in the direction of government assistance programs (if applicable). They wouldn’t just say “Sucks to be you. Women, right? Lol.” Sometimes I think the red pill is the only group that doesn’t have these men’s well-being in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:26 PM
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How are people supposed to move past stage 2 if their flock keeps telling themselves to be paranoid and bitter about the fact that they didn’t get any sex when they were young? You’re dropping an emotional bomb on these men, throwing gasoline on the fire by constantly telling them that all their future relationships will be a sham and that they’re never going to be better than chad and then you expect them to just move on to “acceptance” like it’s nothing. This support group sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:18 PM
-1

No, a TIME MACHINE along with all that is the solution. If you’re already past your 20s then the only solution left is getting over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:05 PM
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If he’s being lied to it’s because he’s with a lair, not because of some asinine theoretical “dating strategy.” You think the type of woman who would deceive a man for her personal gain would only exploit the betas? As for hot sex and being settled for, just because he’s being settled for doesn’t mean he’s not at his max value. It’s up to him to either find someone who doesn’t consider him settling or up his value so that the woman he’s with doesn’t feel like she’s settling. Either way that’s no…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:01 PM
0

What kind of special needs social rookie tells his girlfriend he’s jealous and dissatisfied because she’s not as young as she used to be? You’re trying to blow by that OP but that’s the whole point of this argument. You’re trying to make it about AFBB but this is clearly a case of a guy who needs to get back to social training.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:51 PM
0

Woe is Me: The Thread! Reading the replies I am absolutely baffled that you strong-willed perseverant tough guys aren’t slaying the ladies daily. What with all that backbone and strength of character y’all are showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:30 AM
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This is some shameless hamstering. I’m not even going to waste our time asking for evidence of your “there are two who don’t listen to AdViCe” line. But what of all this “Red pill is becoming mainstream/men are waking up” BS this place get polluted with? You guys are conformists and PROUD of it. They’ll pat each other on the back for “advising” each other of n-counts then get in their feelings when they catch women “advising” each other about cheap men or men with Napoleon complexes. “…they seek…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:19 AM
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So you do think that men should seek the approval of their friends before making dating decisions. A guy who is otherwise happy dating a woman with an n-count of 2 (fuckin TWO!) needs to be “warned” by other men not to be too happy lest he be deemed “dishonorable.” You know, like mavericks do… Laughable, utterly laughable. The big strong men looking down on women for being feeble hiveminds will always-without-a-doubt crumble into conformity if they risk running afoul of whatever the manosphere f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:27 PM
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Bullshit. This entire sub is populated by men afraid of being clowned by other men (anonymous men at that!) for marrying a slutty girl or dating a girl with a lower “attractiveness number” than the internet deems acceptable They don’t waste time reading “alpha” blogs and hiring “masculinity coaches” because they love forging their own path.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:26 PM
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That's true but you can't disregard the fact that many women do in fact take interest by unattractive men as sexual harassment. Depends on the type and expression of “interest.” Let’s not create a reverse halo effect where ugly guys are incapable of being harassers too. And because these conversations always go the same way: yes, attractive guys get a longer leash. Yes unattractive guys are sometimes given no grace. It’s not black-and-white and there’s no persecution campaign against unattractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 02:29 AM
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Pointing at a total stranger across the bar and accusing him of drugging your drink! You know, the thing that humans do. Totally a thing that makes sense and is 100% worth the effort in every woman’s mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 12:09 AM
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This the thread where all the ‘cels try to one up each other with r/thathappened stories? Yeah, bro. Every time you glance at a girl she maces you before pulling down your pants and kicking you in the dick. And everyone clapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 11:49 PM
-6

Can we at least blame you for being too goddamn whiny?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 06:20 PM
1

Yeah but the men here don’t have any IRL women to appreciate more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:53 PM
1

Calls women emotional. Thinks a question is a “punch in the gut.” Very Rational and Logical of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:37 PM
0

I know. It’s always the dumbest weakest ones that try to ride on others’ coattails—and the bigger the coattails the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:44 PM
0

The opioid crisis is very much on people’s radar because that’s an important public crisis that needs to be resolved. Don’t try to piggyback a real concern to push for unlimited on-demand sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:42 PM
1

So quietly that the only place I hear anything is on the “HALP ME GET LAID PLEEEEEEEEZ!” corner of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:49 PM
2

I’d be okay with that. Incels have been boring society for decades now. We’re ready for a new breed of loser (maybe one that would be able to breed?)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:08 PM
-1

Nobody says society doesn’t need men. We’re saying nobody needs the type of man who’s going to LDAR because he can’t date his favorite Instagram thirst trap. Actually, we’re not even saying that. We’re just laughing at every incel who implies that society will miss him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:54 PM
-3

A guy who gets laid after the incel “calls off”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:49 PM
2

The purge is just a fun time being honest without the mods shutting us down. The red pillers cry about their failed marriages. The incels cry about their failed social skills. Everyone else laughs at them. Good clean fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:22 PM
-1

At least they’re doing some about it. Women will probably see pay equity while incels are still laying down and rotting with their security blankets of 10-year-old blog posts. Hell, women may end up making more if incels’ lack of initiative in the dating world starts to bleed into their jobs. Real men will have to pick up your slack. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:21 PM
-2

If the 80/20 rule is real and quantifiable it's not an excuse, it's a legitimate reason why dating for many men may be futile. How many great things have people been able to achieve even when the statistical odds against them were real and quantifiable? We can put a man on the moon but you can’t get one girl to like you? You don’t see the excuse-making in action? Many men who are aware of the rule did in fact try for years just to get nowhere or very poor results. The fact that they're so adaman…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:51 PM
1

Scary? Are you actually afraid of not being a sex god to every woman? Grow up. Unless you’re in a state of hormonal delirium where even the granny with saggy boobs gets you horny because boobs, you shouldn’t be finding every woman attractive either. Oh no, I have to reckon with the fact that I’m not a model. Damn those wimmin for making me face reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:41 PM
-2

Excuse-making. Don’t need to try if you think the odds are forever stacked against you. Maybe only 20 percent of men are man enough to put themselves out there and do what they gotta do. If so then more power to them. To hell with the rest of them. Less competition for me. Edit: it’s also not the same 20% for every woman, you dummies. But this is also why you deserve nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:11 PM
2

Nobody in the history of the world has ever been bothered by someone who uses the word “cuck.” Especially if that someone couldn’t event pay for a woman’s attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:04 PM
10

More screenshots… Don’t you dumbasses know how little thought normal people on the internet give to anonymous strangers’ questions? If they’re not outright fucking with you, they’re not taking your “research” seriously. Take out your internet pacifier and be a fucking person for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:18 PM
3

There is something to be said about that whole “men’s worst fear is his date laughing at him” thing. They blame society for placing a man’s human value in his sexuality but they really do it to themselves. The hardest red pilled guy still has a bit of pedestalization in him which causes him to freak the fuck out if a woman—who he inherently admires—makes fun of him, no matter how tough and stoic he tries to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:24 PM
1

I’ve seen what you incels pass off as humor this purge. Maybe you should let the TikTok and Twitter girls help you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:11 PM
2

You’re getting socially and sexually lapped by your peers and are too busy spreading dank memes to notice it. Ah well. Maybe your 30s will be the decade you finally get some.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:10 PM
2

Yeah. It’s textbook trolling going back to the days of cave paintings. I think it’s also supposed to shine a mirror on the stupid things internet culture conditions people to be self-conscious about. I’m sure in some cases the intended reaction is “Hey wait a minute! Oh, you’re joking. Yeah, I guess it was silly of me to worry about that in the first place.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:37 AM
3

Of course it is. These “men” think they have such incredible senses of humor because they use the word “retard” a lot, but when a woman makes a height joke they suddenly forget what comedy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:27 AM
1

Then why the fuck did you start this conversation you self-pitying clown?!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:28 AM
2

Hate someone, sure. But usually you have a reason to hate someone. What reason is there to hate cucks? They’re literally the least sexually competitive people around, they mind their own business, they don’t make being an asshole a core tenet of their personality (AHEM, incels). They just…are. The only reason someone would hate cucks if they felt cucks threatened their place on the social hierarchy. Incels feel everyone threatens their place, so their hate makes sense. I’m just trying to put inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:51 PM
2

Normal men don’t have the time or energy to hate cucks. They just exist. Please don’t try to associate incels with normal men. The two couldn’t be any more different.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:37 PM
1

Well nobody chooses their fetishes so you have to give them leeway for that. And they probably aren’t self-loathing like the average ‘cel (I’m referring to actual self-loathing, not the kind that gets them off), so they’ve got that going for them. So long as they’re not hurting anyone they’re probably miles ahead in life than incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:36 PM
0

Cucks are still wallets/emotional tampons/punching bags but they don't even get the sex. What "sexual satisfaction" are they getting? None, that's the whole point. They have a sexual fetish. That’s exactly the satisfaction they’re getting. It takes a true failure to not only fail at their own sexual gratification but not even understand the basics of how others get theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:18 PM
2

I’m just offering some free advice—especially relevant to this thread. Cucks don’t swing around “logic” (heavy emphasis on the sarcastic quotes) like a surrogate dick. That’s another point in their column.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:07 PM
2

Well yeah, in a certain context. But for most real-world applications they’re way better than incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:54 PM
-1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:53 PM
0

Incels are not quitters, they are ones who cannot get a mate for whatever reason. “Whatever reason” = they haven’t developed any kind of attractive qualities to make up for a lack of good looks like most well-adjusted boys learn to do before entering high school. If they ever do and get a girl as a result maybe they’ll see how they used to be below even cucks in the pecking order.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:53 PM
2

This is because you lack the mental capacity to think logically and instead rely on your emotions to guide you. FYI, this is the type of sentence that has never gotten a woman wet ever. A prostitute is way more likely to find a husband than a “logic” monster would find anyone to touch his peen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:48 PM
3

Do they want government-mandated girlfriends because they’re not attractive enough for a literal hookup app? No? Then they’re better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:33 PM
2

I figured if you wanted to speak for cucks then thinking like one would help you not talk out of your ass. Incels don’t have value for being quitters. They haven’t sold their souls because nobody wants them. They would and will “cuck” hard for the first passable looking woman who gives them a little taste of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:31 PM
2

And yet they’re still not crying salty tears on Reddit about their gEnEtIcS and hYpErGaMy. That deserves at least a little respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:27 PM
1

No, are you an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:26 PM
5

I’ve never seen logic this tortured. You’re not thinking like a cuck, you’re still using your own paranoid personal lens. Of course you would think it’s abuse. There are some people who probably think whatever you get off on is abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:25 PM
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Nah. The crying as if normal society will ever bat an eye at the “plight” of incels is funny. “Oh no, this random poll of college students shows male sexlessness went up half a percent! Society is doomed!!!” Meanwhile, the rest of the world continues to date and have sex and treat the incels like the NPCs they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:55 PM
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Famous celebrities have a ton of thirsty female fans because…they’re famous celebrities. Tim in Accounting can be classically good looking and he might have a few co-workers crush on him but it’s not like he’s going to have women on the street throwing themselves at him because he’s an accountant, not a superhero.. So I guess the answer is be visible to millions of women every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:05 PM
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Bullshit. What can be realistically accomplished from a question like this? Even if women here play ball and draw the exact universally ideal man for you (impossible since nobody can agree on that), do you think you can become him? Do you think you can add a few more hours to your weekly gym routine or get a new haircut and suddenly become every woman’s masturbation fodder? No, the best case scenario is they confirm there’s One Ideal Male Type and then all the PPD guys get pissy because they’ll …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:29 PM
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“Women, create the ideal man so I can get angry at you for calling him the ideal man.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:18 PM
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Proof that you’re not an awkward asocial maladjusted loser. Because nobody—male or female—wants to date, have sex with or even been in the same room as an awkward asocial maladjusted loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:22 PM
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That sucks and it's why people advocate for therapy. But incels aren't trying to hear that. To be brutally honest: if being out in public is that problematic for someone, they 110% need to get that addressed first before trying to find a sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 06:58 PM
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Then don't. Nobody's making you try to have sex. Live your life with other goals in mind. But don't bother us with sob stories of being denied something you won't even consider working for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 05:53 PM
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So, let’s go back to the original point. So even working towards getting sufficient capacity on an INPUT to getting laid takes incredible effort. How does that not substantiate my point even more? Because your point took more time to excuse people for quitting or giving it a half-hearted "effort" (tinder) than acknowledging that life is hard but everyone has to deal with it. Also, I personally think social circle game has a lot of issues in all fairness. If things don’t go well between you in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:19 PM
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It's friends, not generational wealth. Find a thing you can do with other people, do the thing with other people. Rinse and repeat until strangers stop seeming scary. It's really fucking hard, it takes a lot of time, but it's worth it. Source: experience
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:04 PM
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People will tell you here you just need a social circle, but from my understanding, incels don’t even have that, so you’re basically left with tinder and day game. Or maybe, just maybe, you develop the social capital before you try approaching. You're applying for a job without even putting in the work for the credentials. I know that you really really want the job, but you'd be doing yourself a favor by making sure you actually qualify first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:54 PM
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It's purge week, incel content usually isn't allowed, and incels, by nature, are some of the most cowardly least ambitious people around. Of course they're going to flood a place when they know large numbers of their brethren will have their backs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:40 PM
0

Are you people so fucking horny that you can't find one woman you can be friends with without trying to have sex? Think of it this way: if you can be seen with a woman that you're not openly lusting over you might just become a little more attractive to the women you do lust over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:41 PM
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Is it REALLY that hard to find one woman you can be friends with without trying to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:34 PM
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That might have been the worst interpretation of a sentence anyone has ever made. I’m saying that guys who declare “I prefer the no makeup look anyway” when they fawn over girls who are clearly wearing makeup are showing they have so little experience with real-life women that they might just break if they ever see one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:22 PM
0

One is either sexually attractive to have sex effortlessly like Chad (very few are) or one is a beta who's not attractive and must denigrate themselves by expending infinite amount of effort and resources to have someone pity f#ck them (most men) The man you believe to be "Chad," you don't know his life, what he does to get success, or any work he does to maintain his Chadness. That's why people mock those who speak earnestly of "Chad." The guy who can just pop into existence and have women hopp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:53 AM
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I would love a concrete example of "dogshit loon" behavior. Because from all the times I've seen redditors fawn over "pleasantness" and "agreeability," TRPcels have given the impression that they can't take anything more than a whispered tone of voice and slight-yet-ultimately-relenting disagreement. Please define your terms. Is dogshit lunacy when she asks you to take the garbage out? When she corrects you when you misquote a movie? When she turns down your sexual advances because she's got mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:23 AM
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The thing is casual sex is suppose to be a mutual beneficial thing because we both want it, so why play all these stupid games when we can just skip to the good part? The only reason you would want all this other stuff is because you want to be on a date to be marinated; this isn't what casual sex is about. What "other stuff"? All I said was "use words." Even in those sci-fi movies where society is so sexually progressive that everyone has sex with everyone, the people still ask if they want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:17 AM
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"General attractiveness" aside, if it's so hard to find one woman attractive enough for casual sex then you're kind of proving my point about not being realistic. And even if casual sex has those understandings, you're still expected to at least use big boy words to get an agreement to have sex. You can't just point at your crotch and raise an eyebrow and expect anything good to happen for you. This is what I mean. If you can't be bothered to lift a finger for even the most lazy of ONSes then yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:02 AM
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I covered it. Even if they want casual sex, their expectations of effortless instant sex are so comically unrealistic that I wonder if they've even met a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:38 AM
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Well yeah, anything’s possible when you’re a paranoid nutcase.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:23 AM
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People who fuck can’t muster the sheer amount of bitterness that TRP demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:32 PM
2

The language sounds pretty spiteful. Why not just decide not to try to be friends with them without the hard feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:20 AM
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Oh sure, I can masturbate to orgasm whenever I want, but it's sex that's a need! Oh sure, I can pay for sex, but it's the intimacy that's a need. Oh sure, I can make close friends, but it's the romantic validation that's a need. Oh sure, I could just dumpster dive for--look, just give me a model on my doorstep in 30 minutes or less!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:17 AM
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You said it would "significantly lower the SMV of all women." Since women's demands also factor into their SMV (they wouldn't be so valuable if they would take just anyone), the only way their value would lower is if the presence of sexbots removed the men they wanted from the market. It won't. It'll only remove the kind of men women never wanted. They'll maintain their leverage since the type of men they want wouldn't be caught dead with one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:36 AM
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"The man of my dreams? Hmmm...well first, he has to be the type of guy who would need a sexbot." -No woman ever
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:30 AM
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Define "good." If these women just want a man to give her money and raise the kids, I hear from TRP that there are plenty of betabuxes eager to do that. If they want a loyal man, well...look at them. There are plenty of dudes--even attractive ones--willing to get locked down for that. If they want a pure equal in every sense: career, life ambitions, etc., again look at them! They clearly know how to market themselves to broaden their pool. I'm sorry but so long as they stay in shape and don't, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:53 PM
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Either bluepill betabux cucks are eager to marry a reformed slut and raise Chad's kids just to get a whiff or the reformed slut will never get a man to commit to her. Can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:48 PM
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RP are incels that got thrown a pity fuck once.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:43 PM
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Yeah, attractive women who put themselves out in public are notorious for not having any dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:42 PM
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This is why regular people don't want to be associated with you. You think all the cuckoldry porn you obsessively watch is indicative of real life, making conversation or empathy for you impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:17 PM
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Then why do incels and TRPers constantly bitch about the schools and courts? You know what’s even easier than creating or destroying: doing nothing and just fantasizing about what might be one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:59 AM
1

Fuck me, awkward low effort dudes not getting laid is now AIDS and coronavirus. Get control of your lives, FFS!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:33 AM
0

I'm not the one who introduced actual incel terrorists into the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 12:01 AM
2

post your little "pussyslayer" cosplay stories Called it! A tip: men who are successful at attracting women don't need to formulate complicated game plans to do so and then brag to reddit like they just struck gold. You're all more transparent than those instagram wannabes who rent luxury cars just to take pictures in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:29 PM
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they are tired of being treated like shit for feelings they can't control, they just don't realize what they are doing. And we're tired of bearing the brunt of those "feelings they can't control"--and yes, I'm including the decent men who have to answer for the horny freaks who never learned how to play nice in a group. We learned how to control our urges and socialize with girls before all our baby teeth fell out--why can't you? Instead of pouting about "going your own way" because you're not S…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:24 PM
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Average Joe, the one whose taxes pay for everything you enjoy, is not having sex, is divorced, is alienated from at least half of his children, and is opting out. That's not the Average Joe's experience at all. Make friends with more guys than your bitter echo-chamber and you'll realize that the reason society is still functioning is because the average man's experience is still working out for him. And he'd rather keep it that way than have the losers drag him down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 11:18 PM
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Not an assumption, not a stereotype. Any thread involving approaching women is littered with sad dudes invoking MeToo as the reason why they can't be bothered to learn how to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:29 PM
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What in the world are you talking about? The freedom to have sex with the partners you want has lead to economic ruin? The right to say no to unwanted advances is the thing getting people killed? The ability to live a fulfilling life without depending on getting penetrated against your will has lead to the deaths of millions of people? Talk about refusing to shoulder responsibility. Society is trying to remove rape and coercion from interpersonal relationships and people are responding by sympat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:26 PM
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Yeah, I'm starting to think that's just an excuse to avoid ambition. Like there are armies of women who a: can't wait to falsely accuse someone of being a sex pest and b: are waiting for you to be the target of their accusations. The guys just aren't that special. Unless they're actually sex pests. Then yeah, they have it coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 10:17 PM
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Searched me. I agree with everything you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:47 PM
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I've been asked out a few times in the past (not "all the time") and it always sucked turning them down. Never said it was easier than approaching--though I personally prefer having control over my destiny--but I never walked away from it feeling good. Different levels of empathy for different people I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:46 PM
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The only solution, outside of incentivizing dating, would be an importation of foreigners in such a large scale that japan would cease being japan, it would be half import and that half would only continue to increase if they simply had more children. If that's the only solution--and I still think people are overblowing the consequences of this "problem"--then that'll be what they do. Progress finds a way. I don't know how to make it any more clear: Society, be it Japanese society, North America…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:44 PM
1

Okay. There's plenty of philanthropy and regular people to pick up the slack of one disgruntled racist. That's the point: for every guy who think he's getting back at the world for not supplying him with all his hopes and dreams, there are 10 (at least) who are happy with the way things are and will cooperate to keep things that way or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:34 PM
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Cool. You seem happy. If there's no problem, the rest of us will be over here doing our thing. Be well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:20 PM
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Hey, the dating game isn't pretty and everyone takes heat at some time. But I'd still place more money on those women making it than I would the guy who has already declared himself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:15 PM
3

Can't have a "discussion thread" without "discussion," can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:14 PM
1

You don't know my hobbies or where I live. Look, before you all think of me as some kind of millionaire leading the lavish life, I am very much not. I'm as normal as can be. But I do like photography, as an example, and I can't splurge on a new $500 lens just by picking up a couple more hours at the Gamestop. I preferred to live in a big city with nice restaurants and you don't pay the rent here by being some entry-level part timer. I wanted all that stuff well before the girl came along, built …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 09:11 PM
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“Care about our dicks or we’ll murder people” isn’t how you get people on board with your cause. It’s how you get labeled a terrorist organization and bring everyone and their dogs together to eliminate you before you get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:26 PM
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Incels' Hitler is going to be is going to be some reddit blogger--maybe vlogger if he's bold enough--who promises to hold huge rallies that end up having only like 10 people in a park. Here's the thing about effective demagogues: they need to have some level of charisma or creativity to create growth in a movement. They need to have the social skills to get people who don't know or maybe even oppose an idea on board anyway. Someone with that kind of social talent wouldn't be an incel and wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:14 PM
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Then they'll settle or adapt or find joy in their vibrators. The story will still be the same for men--and women, for that matter--who take themselves out of the game: nothing better and no chance at it being better. Of course, I think the depths of this Great Female Dissatisfaction is an exaggerated tale that incel/TRP beat themselves off to because they can't distinguish regular single life griping from an extreme social crisis, but these are the same people who think the world is going to sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 08:00 PM
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Maybe, but I know myself well enough to know that I wouldn't respond to extreme loneliness by suddenly quitting my job, moving to a crappier place, and denying myself the stuff that made me happy. And by "stuff" I don't just mean material things but also the comfort, security, and freedom that comes with gainful employment. Why would I abandon all that just because I'm not getting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 07:48 PM
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It better get bigger if it wants to do any political or economic damage. And here's another thing: any minority-driven movement worth a damn makes up for the gap in numbers with activity. What are these angry sexless people doing to make their voices heard and get people to care about their cause? Are they uniting? Are they demonstrating? Are they making themselves available for positions of social leadership? Are they releasing literature? Gathering crowds to hear them? Because near as I can te…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 07:40 PM
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Oh no, being single sucked. But at least I was single in a nice place to live with the ability to pay my bills and afford a few nice things. And I worked to maintain all that not because I expected a woman to waltz in and "complete" the package one day, but because whether or not she ever came along I could still have everything else. Even at my most single and lonely, I still wanted other things out of life than sex. That's why I was productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 07:29 PM
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If Home-Car-Good looking-Career-Not crazy are the key 5 to have in order to establish successful sexual relationships, i would say there are plenty of young men with 2 or 3 of these qualifications that cant get a girl or girlfriends. But...it's not. All five of those things are nice to have, but there are plenty of people making relationships work with only a couple. Hell, people living in densely populated cities expect you to not have a car. Young people aren't expected to have a career. And t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 07:24 PM
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Most of the men here seem to be solid in their nuance and logic. Say what?! In the land of "if she's not sucking your dick within 5 seconds then she's not really into you," "If you pay for a date you're a betabux loser and she'll never love you," "It's over for average guys because some Hemsworth has groupies," "if she had sex three times 15 years ago then she's ruined and not worth knowing," etc. you see the guys here as being solid in nuance and logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:36 PM
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(From another comment) Literally the only time I ever hear about "the herbivore men problem in Japan" is when I visit PPD. If they're that big of a problem, the rest of the world doesn't realize it yet. Or they did realize it, said "meh" to it, and successfully moved on...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:27 PM
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Also I my last 2 jobs atleast one person has been fired for the kind of behavior . In my 1st job dude got fired after 2 weeks for hitting on the interns. Second one kitchen supervisor got suspended for being handsy with eh cashier's ( he might have done thisand probably deserved this one though ). Sounds like the system is working. Interns aren't trying to be hit on at work and if you're trying to push open a clearly closed door, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:23 PM
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Are you sure these women weren't afraid of being in an awkward situation more than they were afraid of you? From my female friends, a lot of their anxiety about being hit on by nice but awkard dudes is more just about saying no to an nice but awkward dude. See it from their perspective: hearing no is awful but telling someone no is no picnic either. It's easier to do it if the guy is an ass or if it was understood that he could take it in stride. Just a theory based on my conversations with wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:21 PM
0

Literally the only time I ever hear about "the herbivore men problem in Japan" is when I visit PPD. If they're that big of a problem, the rest of the world doesn't realize it yet. Or they did realize it, said "meh" to it, and successfully moved on...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:06 PM
1

However, most men would rather work less or do more fun (but lower-paying) jobs if all they are worried about is themselves. Men are willing to work harder if it means that they can get a girlfriend/wife or support a loving family. Those are big assumptions that, if not true, put significant cracks into the theory of lower economic growth due to opting out. I work hard and try to make more money because I like having nice shit. I liked having nice shit before I met my girlfriend and I'll like ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 06:04 PM
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r/iamverybadass You know these girls eventually find the partner they want, right? So the ending of your story is more "Everyone lived happily ever after" than anything else, which I can get behind! Can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:55 PM
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No, "we don't need you" is a simple statement of fact. What are we as a society missing out on because of incels opting out? Is there some trillion-dollar dank meme and video game mod industry that could rise up and save the world if incels get laid? Is the key to curing the pandemic shitposts about sex bots and the world is missing out on it because we won't give sexless men government-mandated girlfriends? Incels aren't special and if they don't want a seat at the table they won't be missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:52 PM
2

A hypothetical future where 80-90% of men are sexless losers is called science fiction. People have to realize that that level of social defectiveness has always and will always be rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:44 PM
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I guess it's hard to learn how to read a room when you don't know how to read a reddit post. The point was that the only men who have ever been relevant to MeToo are men actually worth caring about. You--both the general and very specific "you"--will never have a high enough profile that your social and sexual maladjustments will matter to that degree. You still have the capacity to creep out a woman. Unfortunately, that will only result in her day being ruined, not your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:26 PM
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Kinda difficult for a majority of non chad men to realize they aren't sexually desirable when most average men are getting sex! Never forget: that "sexlessness" stat you all like to trot out still indicates a minority. A significant minority. A minority that isn't going to turn into a majority any time soon. If a societal shift hinges on that minority growing enough to have political sway, there are going to be a lot of old and disappointed sexless guys waiting for change...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 05:19 PM
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Oh don't worry. It won't. Ever. See, despite the doomsaying by incels and TRP, we don't have some alarming family problem. And if we ever do, the key to solving that won't come from an army of keyboard warriors who are too afraid to talk to women away from the comfort of their smartphones. When I think about the type of men who could solve society's upcoming problems--especially if the solution involves starting a family--I think about successful guys, widowers, family men who are open to adopti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:30 PM
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So why do their fantasies of "living the best left on your own terms" tend to coincide with the idea that society will crumble without their """""contributions"""""?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:20 PM
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For as much as they're complaining, these women aren't losing sleep over missing out on some socially inept n-counting dork with a superiority complex obsessed with being "alpha" and turning her into a baby machine. I know because nobody is looking for that. Once again, incels are mistaking the hunt for a decent guy for a hunt for them and...no, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:16 PM
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Okay, and the question will be answered by the always significantly higher number of people who either don't care or actually support safety nets. "I can't get my dick wet so burn the social safety net" isn't a political slogan that will capture hearts and minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:01 PM
2

Eh. I agree that the internet helped these people congregate and develop their "ideas." But all that time gathering and planning resulted in the grand scheme of Keep Doing What We've Always Done, Just Louder. Not exactly the Magna Carta. But it shows that this is all they're capable of. That they lie to themselves and think that's going to make even the slightest dent on society is just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:39 PM
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Not everything is the fault of or causes single mothers. But fine. Let's be honest: those hypothetical kids are better off in a single parent family than in a family where the father only became a father because he whined hard enough and the mother has no sincere desire to stay with that loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 03:34 PM
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I can go outside Based on everything you've said so far, you're clearly lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:51 PM
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Not a single one of your social science lullabies show 100% of anything. But enjoy living life on paper. Google more so the real world can keep enjoying their time away from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:35 PM
2

Don’t settle for boring women. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 08:38 PM
2

Yes, because young women HATE Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 07:49 PM
2

I don’t ‘date.’ Other than the times women asked me to go on one You and everyone else who dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:36 PM
0

Not a foid. Just a guy who doesn’t like pedos.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:33 PM
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You’re half right. PEOPLE like to call men who say “anyone over 25 is damaged...no, make it 20...well...she’s really lost as soon as she goes to college” pedophiles. Romanticizing “youth” and “innocence” is another sign considering it’s easier to trick girls into fucking you if you think she’s too young and innocent to know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 05:07 PM
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Oh, you mean asking the girl out means I have to follow up with thinking about something to do? And I can't just sit there like a stump and expect her to blow me within five minutes?! I'm not Superman! Exactly how do you expect this dating process to work? Man: "Wanna go out some time?" Woman: "Sure." Man: "Okay...well let me know what we're going to do. And don't forget to save your money. I'm gonna come hungry!" And breaking down the rhythms of normal adult conversation to their individual par…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 04:47 PM
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I'm all for everyone having standards and it's great that you have something specific that you want. At least you're showing a willingness to connect with someone, which is more than a lot of incels and RPers around here can say. I mean, there's still some big "You can't fire me, I quit" energy in your post BUUUUUUT it doesn't sound like you hate the thought of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 03:02 PM
1

See? I'd rather spend more time with a haiku bot than someone who cries about face bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:49 PM
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For the last time, catcalling and leering at girls on the bus isn't flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:20 PM
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If everyone you're with would rather be on their phone than with you then you are, indeed, awful to be around. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:07 PM
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Lack of accountability and spending your developmental years surrounding yourself with things that come easy or are otherwise hackable to you. Go out in the real world and OH NO! the things I wanna stick my peepee into don't have a cheat code? Must blame everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 02:02 PM
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