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Can you elaborate on the debunking for it? I wanna send it to a friend
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/25 06:15 PM
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Can you elaborate on the debunking for it? I wanna send it to a friend
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/25 06:15 PM
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They actually DON’T include being made to penetrate, thanks to Mary Koss.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/25 06:11 PM
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Can you elaborate more on this part please? Structural misandry is predicated on framing confrontational men as dangerous and those they confront as victims (…)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/25 06:01 PM
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Thank you for sharing those experiences and I had went through similar things as a trans person myself before.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 12:16 AM
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Weird thing is though - I've met plenty of ND women who have an uncanny ability to see right through my masked persona and understand before I even get a chance to open my mouth and I've had friendships with ND females that have been so damn wholesome. Same and relationships as well. It’s interesting. It spoils the script they've been given their whole life. It makes enacting complete control more difficult, and all the things they've grown to not only expect, but demand from men become difficul…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 10:27 PM
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Did they treat you as a potential sexual or physical threat like they often do with men? And if they did, were those one off cases or common treatment from many many people?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 10:22 PM
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Can you link the post about feminism interlapping with ableism? Edit: I found it, I’ll link it below. The post wasn’t as thorough as I would have liked but the COMMENTS were amazing and so relatable. There is a subconscious ableism not just in feminist spaces but even a lot of women perpetuate it in general. Like they mention the moment talking with lots of NT women where they realize you’re neurodivergent and “it’s like the light goes out in their eyes” and they turn completely cold toward you …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 10:17 PM
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I hate when people act like making sexualized art of women, like, makes you against women’s rights or some shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 07:14 PM
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There are some women who act supportive for social brownie points but aren’t actually. And women often get treated as if they’re safe inherently like to come out to and stuff but they really aren’t. They might not easily beat you senseless (though they can with a weapon) but they’ll possibly sic people around them on you and people might not even question it for example.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 04:21 PM
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What does girlboss mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 04:19 PM
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What does girlboss mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 04:19 PM
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Did she actually say that? wtf is that shit? “If you’re a good woman you have a big ass and tits on the inside.” Imagine the reaction
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 09:26 PM
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Did she actually say that? wtf is that shit? “If you’re a good woman you have a big ass and tits on the inside.” Imagine the reaction
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 09:26 PM
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Putting people in a situation where it’s a lose lose is a classic abuser tactic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 09:22 PM
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More info on the 4b thing he’s mentioning: “There was a South Korean school teacher who went to Australia and sexually abused one of her students then posted and bragged about it on a major South Korean feminist and 4B related forum (more on that in a bit), the parents found out and discovered it, and when they reported it, women from the feminist group harassed and even sent death threats to the family to get them to drop the case. https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/society/society_general/820323.html…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 12:39 AM
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And often when we do try and talk about our experiences we get shamed and guilted instead of any kind of apology or anything like would be expected the other way
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/25 04:37 AM
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Can you explain more about this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/25 04:30 AM
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Can you explain more on this and the last part? And yeah look at people like Mary Koss who was a rape researcher and said men can’t be sexual abuse victims and men can’t be traumatized by being abused by women and even influenced the government and laws
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/25 04:30 AM
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Link for more info on this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/25 04:28 AM
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I’ve seen this posted about in other subs before and have copied it myself so you may already know this but as a sexual abuse victim myself who was born male a big part of this has to do with Mary Koss, a woman who petitioned the government to reduce protections for male victims and skewed her studies to show WAY lower rates of male victims than there actually are, and also spread the idea men can’t be traumatized by being sexually abused by women. The CDC still reports abuse toward male victims…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/25 03:21 PM
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Yes, the point is why is that the expectation at the beginning?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/25 05:25 AM
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This post was not accusing all women of being like that whatsoever. It’s saying that it’s a common cultural trope depicted and normalized. Which is… absolutely true?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/25 05:23 AM
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To be honest, I have no idea why this post was removed. It’s not accusing all women of being like that whatsoever. It’s saying that it’s a common cultural trope depicted and normalized. Which is… fucking true?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/25 05:22 AM
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MtF, often when I was younger I had bad experiences as a sexual abuse victim. I noticed many people understand it when I present as female but invalidate it when I present as male
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/25 06:44 PM
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This is something I really appreciate about this sub also as a transgender person I have 99% of the time (minus a few hateful people) been supported heavily when posting here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/25 05:37 PM
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Sorry, the part about sub and mod overhauls and a general shift for the good
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 10:07 PM
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How so? The last part
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 10:05 PM
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Wait I never thought about it like that, or same thing with male rape. Any more thoughts about this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/25 04:50 PM
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Some of the women who groomed me when I was young (I was born male) were very into femdom, I’m curious about this relationship sometimes but I also see ways that it can be done just as a roleplay or fun loving thing, same way some men can be very dominant or even slightly violent in sex but it’s just roleplay I guess
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/25 08:49 PM
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Fem dom in the sexual sense?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/25 08:24 PM
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Also look at figures like Mary Koss, a feminist figure who petitioned the government to reduce protections for male victims, and skewed her studies to show WAY lower rates of male victims than there actually are. The CDC still reports abuse toward male victims the same way as she did. Saying this as a victim who was born male myself. Many feminists I’ve met even will defend shit like this or get mad at me for talking about my trauma. Here are the sources btw: Instead of counting male rape as rap…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/25 06:12 PM
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Here you go: Instead of counting male rape as rape, she counted it separately as envelopment. And justified it by saying men “aren't traumatized by unconsensual sex with women”. She wrote this in her papers. From “Detecting the Scope of Rape: A Review of Prevalence Research Methods” Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to conside…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 11:10 PM
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Then you can also say the men who are affected negatively by the social norms aren’t the ones who have the power to change it but you don’t seem interested to give that grace for some reason?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 04:32 AM
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If feminists supposedly care about male victims, why didn’t feminists go against her and the impacts she had and often still defend her even to now like you’re doing now? So you’re telling me feminists were able to change society’s structure for the better for women and campaign to get voting rights and other stuff but when it came to an extremely vulnerable group of sexual abuse victims that happened to be male or young boys they just let it happen and were powerless? Or is it that they don’t c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 02:28 AM
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one psychopath SHE LITERALLY INFLUENCED THE LAWS OF THE ENTIRE US AND OTHER COUNTRIES ON HOW MALE RAPE VICTIMS ARE TREATED AND THE CDC STILL REPORTS MALE RAPE IN THE SAME WAY SHE DID IN HER STUDIES AND FEMINIST GROUPS STILL CITE THE SAME STATS THAT SHE FABRICATED IN HER STUDIES
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 02:22 AM
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Adding onto OP: People will dismiss these as just “individual, not systemic” so I have proof against that Look up Mary Koss, a feminist figure who went out of her way to skew her studies against male rape victims and petitioned the government to reduce protections for male rape victims and explicitly believed that men cannot be traumatized by being raped. And the fact the CDC still reports rape against men the same way as her studies. I have sources on all of this if you’re curious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 02:16 AM
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I knew people will dismiss these as just “individual, not systemic” so I have proof against that Look up Mary Koss, a feminist figure who went out of her way to skew her studies against male rape victims and petitioned the government to reduce protections for male rape victims and explicitly believed that men cannot be traumatized by being raped. And the fact the CDC still reports rape against men the same way as her studies. I have sources on all of this if you’re curious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 02:16 AM
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I knew people will dismiss these as just “individual, not systemic” so I have proof against that Look up Mary Koss, a feminist figure who went out of her way to skew her studies against male rape victims and petitioned the government to reduce protections for male rape victims and explicitly believed that men cannot be traumatized by being raped. And the fact the CDC still reports rape against men the same way as her studies. I have sources on all of this if you’re curious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 02:16 AM
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Adding onto OP: People will dismiss these as just “individual, not systemic” so I have proof against that Look up Mary Koss, a feminist figure who went out of her way to skew her studies against male rape victims and petitioned the government to reduce protections for male rape victims and explicitly believed that men cannot be traumatized by being raped. And the fact the CDC still reports rape against men the same way as her studies. I have sources on all of this if you’re curious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 02:16 AM
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Yeah and he explicitly says men have no value inherently etc. which are the exact opposite things male advocates say
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/25 11:11 PM
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Another example is Mary Koss, a feminist activist and researcher on rape who believed men can’t be traumatized by being raped by women, petitioned governments to reduce protections for male sexual abuse victims and skewed her studies to falsify the data and show way lower rates of male sexual abuse victims than there actually are. And much more awful things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 12:06 PM
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Another example is Mary Koss, a feminist activist and researcher on rape who believed men can’t be traumatized by being raped by women, petitioned governments to reduce protections for male sexual abuse victims and skewed her studies to falsify the data and show way lower rates of male sexual abuse victims than there actually are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 12:06 PM
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Ah, thanks for clarifying. Yes I hate when people do that too or they treat cis men like shit but people who are FtM in a good way. It feels very exclusionary.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 03:54 PM
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As a trans woman, let’s not make this a cis men vs trans people issue. I’m a trans woman and I heavily support men’s advocacy because I was a sexual abuse victim of multiple women and when I was externally male often many feminists invalidated my experiences. Just as an example.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 03:40 PM
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The problem with that argument is that no woman would accept one single man who survived war to impregnate several woman and be with him at the same time, and for understandable reasons. So if we’re not gonna push ancient tribal gender roles on women which is understandable, don’t do it to men either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 03:38 PM
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As a sexual abuse victim of many women, no it’s not always a man
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/25 10:31 AM
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It just leaked that some women were posting guy’s nudes in the app btw. And the app lets you post addresses and shit. I was sexually abused and groomed by multiple older women (I was born male). I know what it’s like. Yet few talk about them when it comes to that and even many women have often shut me down when talking about it. Frankly screw the app in the first place, we know some people also get falsely accused by people who just don’t like them but are innocent and then get info put in tons …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 04:17 AM
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Why do you reject it? Curious
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/25 02:41 PM
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What about figures like Mary Koss, a feminist researcher on rape who petitioned the government for less protections for male rape victims and skewed her studies intentionally to reduce the stats representing them? And others like that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/25 02:36 PM
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What about figures like Mary Koss, a feminist researcher on rape who petitioned the government for less protections for male rape victims and skewed her studies intentionally to reduce the stats representing them? And others like that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/25 02:27 PM
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Same, also can I dm you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/06/25 01:28 PM
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It’s… kind of the other way around if you look at the history, lmfao Like I gave an example on this sub before: if you look at Mary Koss, a feminist researcher on rape, she said men can’t be victims, pushed policies to the government to make male victims less trusted and punishment on female abusers more lenient, and modified her research by using different definitions of sexual abuse for men and women. As a sexual abuse victim myself who was born male that obviously pisses me off. Or another ex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 02:42 PM
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YES, this. I take it you’re speaking from experience? Mind talking about it more?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/25 11:46 PM
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As a sexual abuse victim myself who was born male - yeah, people always say “women victims get dismissed too!” But they ignore we’re especially talking systemically, not individual cases. It’s so crazy that in every other case when something disadvantages men they say “but it’s not systemic” but ignore that criteria for this. It makes my piss boil. And before someone comes in here saying “but this is the fault of other men!” False. Mary Koss, a feminist researcher on rape, said men can’t be vict…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/25 11:40 PM
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No, leftism is actually a very specific term with a very specific definition based on an analysis of theory and advocacy for radical or systemic change to achieve social and economic equality. A liberal supports reforming things within the current capitalist system, like making social programs and regulated markets, but not addressing the system itself which caused those in the first place, only bandaid solutions. Yes there are dumb people claiming to be leftists, but most either don’t care or h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 09:49 PM
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These are fake leftists, Marx critiqued these people. Now if you mean liberals, then yes, but that’s VERY FUCKING DIFFERENT from real serious leftists practicing according to theory etc. instead of twitter trends and reactionary shit like these people do
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 02:36 PM
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Can you explain more on this? This is interesting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/25 06:24 PM
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I agree with this take, also as a fellow trans woman and leftist male advocate as well can I DM you? Kinda wanted some advice/help on some topics from someone in a similar situation
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/25 06:07 PM
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Link to full set? Asking as a sexual abuse victim who was born male
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/25 04:27 AM
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Explain? Also this is an effect of the Duluth Model from Ellen Pence
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/25 05:11 PM
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Most of these are pretty amazing ideas (speaking as a trans person myself), but a few changes and additions Add in a part for neurodivergent AMAB people (eg autistic AMAB people). We often get brushed to the sidelines or outright hated. A part for how POC men get treated. Racist white women have been… not very good Change the whole masculinism and feminism thing with just egalitarianism that works for both, otherwise it will cause more divide instead of unison. For some part that is good because…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/25 09:12 PM
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What do you mean mother shut you down? Can you explain
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/25 09:10 PM
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Really pissed off by this, as a sexual abuse victim who was born male. Holy fuck.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/25 11:19 PM
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Link? Ugh this pisses me off so much
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/25 10:33 PM
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What the fuck… as a sexual abuse victim who was born male this pisses me off so much
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/25 10:32 PM
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Here’s the thing, most women would rightfully not be happy with being impregnated by a man who has done so to many other women just for the sake of “repopulating” after a war, they’d move elsewhere instead of all being impregnated as is their right (as we’re seeing in the Ukraine and Russia situation). So if everyone can agree women don’t have to be in that “traditional gender role” why the FUCK do these people think men have to? Such a double standard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/25 08:24 PM
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thanks for sharing this, wow
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 10:45 AM
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I think the best outcome would be that they just stop the treatment toward AMAB people in general meaning both cis men and trans women, do you agree?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/25 03:05 AM
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It’s interesting how people talk about how “people always say ‘that’s someone’s daughter’ to care about a woman and never the fact it’s the woman itself who’s the victim!” But never realize it’s the other way around WAY more often and it’s even normalized when that happens also I imagine the defense some people make will be “it was done/ordered by other men” but like, it is a policy that ended up still putting the women in less harm than the men when neither should be harmed, the fact oppression…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 06:59 AM
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I disagree; for example, Mary Koss, a feminist researcher on rape, said that men cannot be victims of sexual abuse (something I heavily disagree with as a victim who is AMAB). Ellen Pence led to the Duluth model which assumes all abuse comes from “male entitlement”. Etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/25 09:37 PM
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Yes, Mary Koss, a feminist researcher on rape, said that men cannot be victims of sexual abuse (something I heavily disagree with as a victim who is AMAB). Ellen Pence led to the Duluth model which assumes all abuse comes from “male entitlement”. Etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/25 09:19 PM
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Yeah they acknowledge men’s issues if and only if it can aid and strengthen patriarchy theory
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 02:29 PM
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Like, he believed men having sex with or fucking me, or me having a boyfriend would make me disgusting or reduce my value, basically.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 10:23 AM
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No, in American prisons when MTF trans people get sent to men’s prisons, not only do they get raped sometimes to death, but also PUT IN WITH DANGEROUS INMATES TO “RELIEVE” THEM AND PREVENT THEM FROM ACTING UP ON ANYONE ELSE. Basically set by the prisons to be used as a target for all their aggression and urges. You can look this up it’s called V-coding and there was a court case on it last year from a victim of it who GOT ALMOST NO NEWS COVERAGE, even though the judge said she needed to be prote…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 06:21 PM
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No, in American prisons when MTF trans people get sent to men’s prisons, not only do they get raped sometimes to death, but also PUT IN WITH DANGEROUS INMATES TO “RELIEVE” THEM AND PREVENT THEM FROM ACTING UP ON ANYONE ELSE. Basically set by the prisons to be used as a target for all their aggression and urges. You can look this up it’s called V-coding and there was a court case on it last year from a victim of it who GOT ALMOST NO NEWS COVERAGE, even though the judge said she needed to be prote…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 06:20 PM
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Can you explain this comment more? Ofc as a trans person and AMAB I notice TERFs have a lot of double standards but I don’t understand this comment
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 06:19 PM
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As a trans woman I 100% agree, there’s an element of both in both but predominantly (expressions of) misandry toward trans women from people who see and treat us as men. I did have a family member who was transphobic who would say stuff like how I would be “tarnished” by men etc. which is more similar to traditional misogyny, but a large majority of transphobia I and a lot of trans people face other than that comes from misandry, like people making bad assumptions of us being dangerous etc. I fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/25 06:12 PM
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There is a material standard for it in terms of brain scans which can actually show indicators of gender in the brain, but as a trans person I agree with the overarching point that the only difference between TERFs and Fs is whether you apply the hatred to trans people or not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/25 06:59 PM
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hugs
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/25 12:01 AM
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Same as a sexual abuse victim myself
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 11:34 PM
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I said it’s like, not exactly the same. An analogy doesn’t need to have everything be exactly the same it’s meant to make a point. The point is you’re equating two things that are very different.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 06:22 PM
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Ok, but clearly what I said is nowhere as objectionable or a harmful thing as what they said, which is why it wasn’t an issue when I discussed it, right? You’re trying to draw a false equivalency between two things that makes no sense whatsoever. And it’s obvious you know they’re different in a moral sense because obviously mine isn’t something that would draw condemnation since I was explicitly allying with the group while you saw theirs was intended to push me out of the group. When I posted i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/25 06:09 PM
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The second part is such a strawman of the concept. If you don’t believe this “brain body map” concept, then how do you explain the widely psychologically studied phantom limb syndrome, where the brain literally sends messages to a part of the “map” that are cut off and the person feels the body part again and its senses even though it’s not there? That can only happen from the brain having a map of where things are supposed to be. And most trans people have a similar thing to phantom limb syndro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 11:45 PM
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re: your free speech argument at the end Free speech isn’t equal to freedom from a response or condemnation of what you are saying, or even just the fact that you’re being counterproductive. This narrative is very prevalent in western countries and I don’t know where it comes from. “targeted” I meant it more in the sense as “why am I being set as a target of aggression and invalidated when I am an ally to the movement” instead of that kind of thing. In the past (not from this subreddit) I have f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 09:56 PM
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I made another comment further explaining the topic https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/O8QAM1KdTO
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 09:34 PM
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Assigned gender at birth" would make sense, a gender can be "assigned" in the sense that the individual's gender identity is assumed to match their birth sex and assigned to them. That’s literally what it means, the term AGAB literally stands for “assigned gender at birth.” An assumption that the gender identity matches the birth sex and assigning that prescription to them. And AMAB doesn’t necessarily mean you switched, it just means you were assigned that. Whether you agree with and are comfor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 09:34 PM
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Furthermore, the whole concept to me validates gender essentialism No, as a trans person myself, there’s an issue with this gender abolition rhetoric and I’ll explain it. There’s two types of things we mean when we say gender: the social norms surrounding gender, and the actual feeling of gender inside your brain. For a cis person, the one in the brain matches their physical body so there’s no problem. For a trans person, their brain is structured differently and their sense of body is actually …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 09:27 PM
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Thank you 💝
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 01:50 PM
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This comment is weird because it starts off with an assumption (an assumed average man’s life as the baseline for human rights discussions) then simply builds on that instead of addressing that concern in the first place. So let’s deconstruct the idea from the beginning. We can all agree cis men and women should have the right or freedom to, for example, be able to modify their own body right? You probably wouldn’t intervene to stop your neighbor from getting a boob job or whatever. Shouldn’t tr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 01:46 PM
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I also made a case in my other comment why the transphobia against MTF people also be both misandry and misogyny at the same time, the one that’s more prevalent depends which person you’re talking to maybe
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 01:39 PM
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EXACTLY, and almost none of the social protections either
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 01:36 PM
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I get what you mean by the last part, but it's important to be careful about the distinction between *words for something existing* vs the underlying *concept.* Something can have existed for a long time without the modern obvious terms for it having been there. The idea of having been assigned a specific sex and then your brain being another one has existed for thousands of years especially in some eastern or more indigenous cultures, it's only relatively recently that *western* cultures have h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 10:40 AM
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Thank you. <3 I appreciate the responses I got here a lot Also, I think the term that might fit best (since you were curious on the last part) would be camaraderie or sibling-hood, maybe even fellowship (perhaps too formal though).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 10:36 AM
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I do think there are elements of both in both, e.g one transphobic family member would say stuff like "you will be a whore and go out to be tainted by men, that's disgusting" which generally is stuff more targeted toward women's gender roles, but they also ofc still saw me as a guy so probably also misandry or they meant it in a homophobic way too. And similar stuff for trans men as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 10:34 AM
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Yep and now I am facing transphobia on this very thread too despite making it clear I advocate for helping men. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1k0l8so/comment/mngax1u/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 02:00 AM
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“May correlate more closely with homosexuality” that’s not what the study said. You’re relying on Blanchard’s old typology of “homosexual trans woman” and stuff. It’s a shame this comment even got upvoted. Left wing groups are not spaces for transphobia. I come here to advocate for men’s issues, not to deal with extra bullshit and get condescended to while literally being an ally. Also, if you want a more close historical example, there was a place called Institut fur Wissenschaft in 1910s, 1920…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/25 01:26 AM
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The brains of trans people were found to have been similar to the ones of the gender they identify as by several studies. all of two minutes Trans people literally existed since ancient Mesopotamia where there were verses in their scriptures talking about priests who were born male but identified and were treated by society as female. Basically the same concept as “assigned at birth.” Over 5,000 years ago. Try again. Also, the main hormone in the body is a way bigger factor than birth sex. It ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 09:20 PM
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The first two parts yes exactly, go see my comments here for more explanation to the other person https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/MLrqEMKHLo
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 06:31 PM
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As a trans woman myself, just shut up with this rhetoric. Assigned male AT BIRTH. That’s the full phrase. We’re assigned male at birth and get treated with all the consequences that come with that, like being treated as disposable and other stuff. Oh and by the way? TERFs hate us because they see us as men, not women, and apply gendered misandry to us. That’s the entire point. That’s why we trans women should help roll back hatred and discriminatory policies against men too. And that’s why I fee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 06:30 PM
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As a trans woman myself, just shut up with this rhetoric. It doesn’t offend me at all. Assigned male AT BIRTH. That’s the full phrase. We’re assigned male at birth and get treated with all the consequences that come with that, like being treated as disposable and other stuff. TERFs hate us because they see us as men, not women, and apply gendered misandry to us. That’s the entire point. That's why stuff like the sexual abuse that happened to me still gets invalidated. That’s why we trans women s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 06:29 PM
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As a trans person, a lot of transphobia COMES because people see us as male and apply male gender roles and stereotypes to us and hate us. This applies to both RIGHT and LEFT. And yes, the right can be misandristic too, even in very similar ways such as seeing AMAB people as disposable. And other stuff like that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/25 03:11 AM
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> It's often a slur to Neurodivergent men. Is this meant sarcastically or do you mean that people discriminate extra against neurodivergent men while justifying it as "punching up" since they're AMAB?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 09:57 PM
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The real takeaway is that people think these right wing “Manosphere” people incentivize men first in every regard. This proves they don’t, and only really when it benefits upperclassmen
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/25 01:36 AM
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> I see your point, but I still think that men's rights activists or whatever non-controverdial name we want to give them should ally with I think issues with both need to be sorted out and tried to be brought to the side rather than one over another or something like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 12:20 PM
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But that doesn't mean they should get a free pass...? I care that the only way they think they can get the benefits is by stamping on and/or continuing a movement which stamps on any oppressed groups of men and AMAB people, eg victims such as myself, and people who often who didn't even harm them along the way, now that they have institutional power. There's a story by Ursula le Guin named "The Ones who Walk Away from Omelas". The people in the city of Omelas are living in a luxurious utopia, fu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 11:53 AM
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> I mean I see things you pointed as problems but the problem here is conflating an advocacy movement as "bigoted" in the same way that conservatives are bigoted. So speaking as a sexual abuse victim who was born male: What about when researchers like Mary Koss who were major feminist figures literally denied several times on record that male rape victims exist, and other researchers had to finish her incomplete work to use the same criteria toward male victims as she did for female victims to d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 10:43 AM
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Thanks, this comment is amazing. I also added stuff on this topic in this comment, thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1jyu1q8/comment/mn1cll2/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 10:11 AM
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There *are*, actually, specific traits that right-wingers generally have, instead of the meaningless buzz-word that people tend to use it as nowadays, and that's what those posts are referring to. See my comment explaining more. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1jyu1q8/comment/mn1cll2/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 10:05 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1jyu1q8/comment/mn1cll2/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 10:04 AM
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I'd argue they mimic right wingers *in that specific way* in terms of being a reactionary, focusing more on characteristics than class (not being a class reductionist, equal rights are important coming from a trans person and POC here, but I mean they ignore class to focus on gender and other characteristics instead of any other causes e.g "men were sent to war by other men!" while ignoring how it ended up benefiting rich people and women), shutting down movements, and so on. Left wingers are no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 10:03 AM
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Favorite response here so far. You get three types of responses when advocating for men, the people who tell you to just man up, and the people who call it anti liberal, hateful etc. and those who co opt men’s issues for their own goals (whether to further patriarchy theory or dumb right wing stuff). All of them are not addressing the issue head on. And liberal =/= leftist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 08:25 PM
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I’m gonna repost this cuz mods weren’t active so it died in new before getting approved
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/25 01:40 AM
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Also, this is a side note, and I'm gonna make another post about this later, but does anyone else consider it weird that subs like GCJ and ACJ complain about how women are sexualized in games and media and stuff, but when an actual physical mutilation is FORCED on men's bodies to make them "normal" or "attractive" to western society these people don't care and laugh it all off? They shut down discussion of that because "other people have it worse so we need to focus on that first", meanwhile the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/25 07:18 AM
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