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nice don't fuck it up dude she could be THE ONE 0_0
/r/seduction03/10/16 04:31 AM
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just be cool bro
/r/seduction03/10/16 04:28 AM
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Step 1 is make sure you're happy and doing your own thing without her. Step 2 is to remember that you still have to be cool, and to not be needy Step 3 is do this a bunch of times and fuck it up so you know what not to do because no internet post could cover all the nuances but after getting burned a few times you'll sure as fuck learn what they are. If you want her to be a FWB, just keep hanging out and fucking her, and not really putting a label on anything. Fuck her really good. Avoid boyfrie…
/r/seduction03/10/16 04:23 AM
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Hey well at least you were out with a chick that was attractive enough to have another guy come up and make out with her in the 10 minutes you were gone lol. That kinda sucks but is also hilarious XD. Anyways, this is always a risk if you just leave a girl by herself. Take her with you to get a drink. If she doesn't wanna come with you, it's prob because you have some neediness in the way you're interacting with her. At that point, all you can really do is take a step back and realize how whack …
/r/seduction03/10/16 04:18 AM
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For Jeffy, Alex, and Julien, it's all their videos, removed or otherwise. If I did all of Tyler's videos the torrent would be 76 GB, so for him it's just the deleted ones.
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 05:22 PM
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Social status in the animal kingdom is based around access to resources (food and women). Some men have more access to these resources, so in that sense there is an objective hierarchy. That said, like any social convention, it exists only in the minds of the people thinking about it. There's no law of the universe that determines male status hierarchy. What this means is that it is easily changed around based on the behavior and events. Someone who is beta can act alpha in certain contexts, and…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 06:06 AM
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can you rephrase the question?
/r/TheRedPill14/12/14 05:51 AM
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Billions of other women. You are still a fucking cool dude. You learned from this and will do better next time. You got this
/r/seduction29/06/13 05:43 AM
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As a professional mouth coordinator, I can also attest to this fact.
/r/seduction08/03/13 10:40 AM
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Just greet and keep movin'. This one helps build what we call "outcome independence." Do it enough that it doesnt bother you when they ignore you. As a beginner, you may notice a shift from saying "hello" AT the hot girls to really saying "hello" TO the hot girls. :)
/r/seduction08/03/13 10:32 AM
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Force air through your vocal chords
/r/seduction06/03/13 06:08 AM
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All I can say is wow. It's really crazy how wrong you are about me. I have to wonder where the breakdown in communication was. Actually idk, you are just interpreting what I right in the harshest possible light. Or something, haha. Just crazy.
/r/seduction03/03/13 02:17 AM
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righting
/r/seduction03/03/13 01:44 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you trolling? It doesn't mater what I believe. Fuck me. It's your life, not mine. You are too fucking lazy (yes, lazy) to read the sidebar, which is the best of the best this community has to offer. And you won't even go out and talk to girls? And you want to improve your game? Pick one. If you want to be a doer, a guy who acts instead of wishes, then get out there and work your ass off for it. Your goals are not going to fall into your lap, and random people…
/r/seduction02/03/13 08:04 PM
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Don't read anymore. Just go talk to girls.
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:57 PM
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Yeah, that's a good question... I mean, besides their looks, my guess is that it's a combination of two things: My friend is a really fucking cool dude, but he is just getting started with game--so he wasn't thinking about the broader social dynamics of our little group, and honestly probably wouldn't have been able to fend most of the guys off. He had just kinda isolated the girl's friend and was zoned in on that, which is totally fine. The girls were both very polite to approachers, like I men…
/r/seduction02/03/13 06:48 PM
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For me personally it means guys who aren't expressing themselves authentically--usually because they're stifled by social conditioning, possibly because they don't like themselves, just don't know how, etc This FR did not include all the really cool dudes we interacted with. Haha, I see how reading it you could get the impression that everyone is a chode to me. I don't mean to communicate that at all. These guys were all chodes in a slightly different way--but the theme is the same. I could be w…
/r/seduction02/03/13 06:32 PM
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Neuroscience
/r/seduction02/03/13 07:50 AM
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It also helps if everyone takes shrooms..
/r/seduction01/03/13 03:39 AM
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It seems like most people here probably see all this as overwhelming--too complicated or too much work. Tepid response is what I expected. I wrote it for several of my friends this week, and just decided to cross-post it here with some minor edits in case anyone is in a place were this type of advice is useful. But the average sedditor is very different from my average friend... Anyhow I am happy if even one person found it helpful :)
/r/seduction22/02/13 04:31 PM
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Excel for the goals and log, Word/a piece of paper for the SWOT. For example my weekly goals this week are: intellectual - list every project going on in my lab, who is working on it, and assess its likelihood of publication; social - 20 approaches and 3 networking interactions; personal - lift every day, no excuses.
/r/seduction22/02/13 01:28 PM
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I have the same exact thing. Don't think it's a huge problem tbh--but it is a function of how much emotional investment you put into the girl (put another way, how much you care about them). Some pain is both natural and unavoidable in seduction, and in life.
/r/seduction16/02/13 08:24 PM
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Subscribing to more subreddits is not the way to mastery. Going out is the way to mastery. Reddit doesn't give you the foundation for strong inner and outer game. Experience does.
/r/seduction14/02/13 02:46 AM
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Practically speaking, have several other girls you really like available so if shit blows up with that one it doesn't matter. Also, if you're gonna be in your head, might as well try to think of your escalation as an honest and natural expression of your will. Totally normal, and btw totally appreciated. What do you think, girls will be offended if you try to kiss them or affectionately touch them? Nah bro. Billions of our fellow humans have gone through the same song and dance, and billions mor…
/r/seduction13/02/13 02:26 PM
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It's easier than you realize Same thing with escalation and the first kiss IMO. I mean, holy shit, just lean in and do it when the time feels right! Not rocket science. The problem with this, and with your really great post, is how difficult it is to teach the confidence and outcome-independence that go into successful seduction. Until a newbie goes out and actually fucking does it they will never understand how right you are. It's a real choke-point in a person's growth. I don't have any idea w…
/r/seduction13/02/13 01:43 PM
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Chatting with every facebook friend is a fucking awesome game idea. My heart is already pounding. Edit: also, it's bad to be shy if it makes you feel bad. It sounds like you don't feel good about it. In general, if there's anything in your life that you don't feel good about, you should change it. So do something to make yourself less shy :) Start small--the eye contact game, for example. Just keep improving, whatever the pace.
/r/seduction13/02/13 02:57 AM
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Yo Uh Remix... uh... Yo I knew this one dime who could really fuckin twist She rolled round that pole like a fresh sierra mist On our fifth fuckin date we still hadn't kissed but she didn't give a fuck when she gave it to my wrist Suddenly I'm anal fisting, yo Arm-fuckin straight up the wet, dark hole I still feel it eatin away at my soul Aint never seen nothing like it, went to town on this ho
/r/seduction12/02/13 05:01 AM
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and he was rapping to himself the whole time....what a weirdo!
/r/seduction12/02/13 04:34 AM
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without breaking eye contact
/r/seduction12/02/13 03:55 AM
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I like this
/r/seduction12/02/13 03:21 AM
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I would actually say yes, live your life a little bit. but I'm crazy, so..
/r/seduction12/02/13 12:21 AM
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gotta freestyle your way outa trouble ;)
/r/seduction11/02/13 09:55 PM
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I would just try to be congruent, confident or not. Of course after doing it about 3 times in a row, you'll be in state anyways. So... if you get the number and can segue into natural conversation right afterwards then great... But it doesn't really matter, just try to have fun and see what works and what doesn't
/r/seduction11/02/13 08:21 PM
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You're correct in general, and this is a very good point, that everyone should understand. But it's not so black and white, and different people will have to find the optimal mix for themselves. The synergy will work differently for everyone.
/r/seduction07/02/13 07:38 PM
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Don't fucking send that text OP, lol Why not just become friends with her? Keep chasing other chicks, and tell her about your exploits like you would any of your buddies. Even better, get to know her friends--expand your social circle! You'll figure out what the bf situation is and if you still care if/when they break up you'll have a pretty good chance, but you'll have gained a lot regardless. It may turn out that her "boyfriend" doesn't even exist, and you'll have your chance to escalate even …
/r/seduction05/02/13 03:31 AM
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Abso-fuckin-lutely hold eye contact. Give her a small but genuine smile--enough to spike her emotions and confirm that you're not a creep. If she smiles back it's on.
/r/seduction05/02/13 03:22 AM
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Maybe I just have to relax and not worry about seducing as many girls as I can, but much more of seeing how many friends I can create It sounds like being more social in this manner may be just what you need, I agree. But don't stop gaming girls--if you want to be more than friends with someone don't automatically short-change yourself. maybe I should be the one that is creating great opportunities for my friends I hate to be blunt, but it's possible you will outgrow those friends soon given you…
/r/seduction03/02/13 12:05 AM
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What are some good tips to well... Act like a normal human being to make girls more comfortable talking to me and hanging out more? First of all, it's totally normal to want to hang out with them, and to set up these interactions. Don't be afraid of that, seriously. I'm going to assume that asking to hang out isn't your problem, but rather having solid game when you do is what you're asking about. Girls will be comfortable with you as long as they feel like you have an abundance of other girls y…
/r/seduction02/02/13 11:35 PM
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When you are at a party, how can you figure out with girls are taken without just standing in the background for a long while just observing or literally hitting on every girl there? How can you do that without losing social value/respect/looking despite? You should talk to everyone. You gain social value when you do this, not lose it (unless you're acting needy). In a college situation, how can you game without seeming like a douchebag PUA and yet not lose opportunities like I did? You have to …
/r/seduction02/02/13 11:27 PM
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Hold eye contact more
/r/seduction31/10/12 03:04 PM
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So ...I guess it would just be "myriad shit"
/r/seduction31/10/12 10:24 AM
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Okay, so...I go out 3 nights a week, work my ass off approaching and pushing my limits with this stuff, have real quality interactions with a lot of girls, and am improving pretty rapidly atm. And I'm fucking up. Got it. Thanks buddy.
/r/seduction31/10/12 10:23 AM
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haha that feel... Look, there's a ton of really good stuff, don't start watching it all at once because you're going to get addicted and waste a lot of time. It depends where you are in your game...but I would probably start with "Foundations" if you're a beginner, and Blueprint if you're intermediate. But really, you should just be going out instead of watching videos. Doing both is ideal, but going out has to come first.
/r/seduction30/10/12 07:40 PM
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Owen has really stepped it up recently. Since he got skinny and has normal hair and clothes his videos fuckin rock. Am I the only one who thinks this? He doesn't give me that "weird" vibe anymore...he's just a normal dude who's passionate about pickup, and he's brutally honest about how much work it takes etc. Very grounded, very realistic... This coming from someone who used to brush off RSD as being a huge circlejerk about "state".
/r/seduction29/10/12 08:47 PM
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Two words: day game.
/r/seduction13/10/12 06:17 AM
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My question is rather why we don't hear that enough. All of these systems and models and theories are cool, but their efficacy can only pale in comparison to actually going and talking to chicks...you're right about that. IMO "go practice" should be the only advice for all beginners.
/r/seduction20/08/12 11:53 AM
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Dude, your ancestors were the ones that did fuck the women, not the ones that didn't. ALL of your ancestors got it done. You really fuckin think you "don't have the tools"?! Lol.
/r/seduction05/06/12 01:48 PM
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certainly not Christian conservative-type right wing Thank god
/r/MensRights20/05/12 01:14 AM
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Damn, I would love to be able to do that. I could totally do it in a non-cunty way too--just need to familiarize myself with the stats.
/r/MensRights20/05/12 12:29 AM
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I watch kids, am not a pedophile, and don't give a fuck.
/r/MensRights12/05/12 06:26 AM
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Keep it up man, don't let this shit define your life going forwards.
/r/MensRights10/05/12 01:40 PM
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THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR MY BLOOD PRESSURE
/r/MensRights02/05/12 10:30 PM
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OP, I'm very glad to see that your reception has been at least nominally positive, a sharp contrast to mine as I attempted to make the exact same point 22 days ago. If you want to get a much more...fleshed out picture of what this community really thinks about feminism, you should take a look at that thread. You're the kind of person we need on our side, but also the kind we're most likely to alienate with carelessly imprecise antifeminist vitriol. Don't expect open arms, but I appreciate what y…
/r/MensRights11/04/12 11:01 PM
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I have a feeling that for me and my generation, we emulate this kind of behavior because it's what we saw on TV. And honestly, people I know who grew up before TV was real popular--like my dad, for example... none of them are slobs at all I don't think it's the writers reflecting on their shortcomings because the character's traits and even lines are so repetitive and static across shows. I think it's the trope that's been determined to produce the highest ratings when used in a certain way.
/r/MensRights28/03/12 02:01 AM
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Calm down
/r/MensRights23/03/12 11:51 PM
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Well perhaps we need to do something to make this happen. We need someone brilliant to come up with a label that really hits the mark, is easy to remember, and is mostly politically correct....and then HAMMER THAT SHIT HOME LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW BABY. I'll think about it but I'm not good with words so success is unlikely. But this would be the best thing that could happen to MRA right now. It would allow us to 1) Get the general public on our side 2) Get the good feminists on our side 3) Not …
/r/MensRights23/03/12 07:28 PM
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If you're hoping for upvotes, understanding, or support for your rational arguments about feminism in this subreddit you're doingitwrong. It's brushed off as either NAFALT ("not all feminists are like that") or simply incorrect. We do need to be more political about who we're attacking, because blanket-labeling all feminists as wrong, evil, or even believing in patriarchy theory hurts men's rights activism (by getting us labeled as "sick and deluded" for example) and alienates potentially powerf…
/r/MensRights23/03/12 07:16 PM
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Feminists are not our enemy. Shitty feminists are our enemy. When you attack all feminists you hurt MRA by making yourself look like an extremist. Patriarchy theory doesn't mean women blame all their problems on men. Just ones related to patriarchy--thats not sexist, its rational. You've drawn a specious implication there.
/r/MensRights22/03/12 03:24 PM
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Do you want the truth? I had a complete reply to your original comment, with line-by-line citations and either refutations or comments. I even did some google-fu to find precise references for the points I was making. Then I pressed backspace, and when I went back forward to the page all my work was gone. I don't have it in me to do it again. All of my attempts at explanation and argument here have been downvoted below 0 points, so people who see them now are already primed to see them as worthl…
/r/MensRights21/03/12 05:23 AM
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I don't know how to answer someone who doesn't think women are oppressed, or ever have been. I don't know how to answer someone who thinks feminism as a whole is imprudent and that oppression is not an objectively discernible phenomenon. I don't know how to answer someone who misunderstands the way philosophy works. I have a university degree in philosophy; that doesn't make me right about everything philosophy-related, but I suspect I've got a more accurate perspective on it than you. Especiall…
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:40 AM
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You're right! It's almost like out of the onion Redditor posts about feminism on /r/mensrights, complains about getting flamed
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:33 AM
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I don't know what that is, but it sounds like another attempt to confine what I'm trying to say into some category that you already "know how to hate." I'm really disturbed by what I've seen in this thread, though--and i don't just mean specious reasoning. I'm astounded at how preposterously misunderstood I've been. I suspect it's because I gave this post such a shitty title.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:32 AM
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You guys are totally right, I'm just another run-of-the-mill troll, white-knight, feminist, anti-man, stupid, illogical person trying to say that you all are wrong and WE'RE RIGHT. That was totally the theme of this post and everything I've said. Black and white.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:13 AM
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When you think that a group of people with PhDs and IQs higher than both of ours, publishing articles in philosophical journals and debating with real academics and other philosophers are wrong, and you're right, you might have a problem. Instead of being reactive and aggressive about things you haven't taken the time to understand, maybe you should consider that you don't know everything about feminism.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 04:12 AM
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At least acknowledge that both types exist.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 02:55 AM
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we focus on the parts that are anti-male because, surprise surprise, this is mens rights and we focus on anti-male stuff here. And because they're reprehensible, but yeah. You contradict yourself in your edit. You claim that the way we talk about feminism is harmful, and then you say it should change to reflect "true" feminism. Right, I contradict myself because I was wrong (to call it "true feminism") before but don't want to alter the original post. I'm pleased with this resolution
/r/MensRights21/03/12 12:08 AM
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the sick and the deluded Over the top much?
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:58 PM
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I have been corrected on this point. The top edit on my OP reflects this.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:52 PM
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You're right. Especially here.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:48 PM
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You have an irrational desire to save the word "feminism" I'm not worried about saving the word. I gave up on that. See the top edit on my OP.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:47 PM
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It seems that everyone here assumes that I'm irrational and stupid. TBH I have browsed this subreddit for a long time and even so I didn't expect to get flamed and downvoted so hard. I've presented a viewpoint that conflicts with this seeming hatred of feminism, and done my best to reasonably defend my arguments and admit when I'm wrong. I'm not sure what to make of the response. I still love /r/mensrights though, thank god this place is here.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:36 PM
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Would I be wrong? Both genders lack necessary rights and freedoms. All that matters is that that gets resolved, not keeping score on who's worse off.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:05 PM
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Okay then, sorry. And in my defense on the first point, he said I was projecting, implying that I, a dogmatist, am projecting dogmatism onto him. One cannot project "speaking-like-dogmatist" because that's not a personality trait or whatever, that's a non-personal observation about the content of what somebody says. It's pointless to make any other kind of observation because this is the internet. You really must think that I'm a really stupid or terrible person, and that's too bad. Even if we d…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:02 PM
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Feminism IS what people think it is. I don't like that form of argument. It's possible for people to be wrong about what something is. Even most people.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:53 PM
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I didn't say he was a dogmatist, I said he was speaking like a dogmatist. Are you really following all of my comments just so you can try to jump on me in cases like this and prove me wrong?
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:52 PM
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I have a real problem with the phrase "helping women helps men too" because it's still putting focus on women while men sort of tag along as an after-thought and our problems are not adressed directly. That would be ridiculous if that were what I meant. Of course it isn't. My second problem is the assumption that men have all natural rights and the ability to live their lives freely and the small logical jump required to come to the conclusion that men are already at the top of the Freedom Foodc…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:51 PM
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Please see the top of my post, under "last edit."
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:50 PM
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No, patriarchy theory says that institutions and social structures are designed to reflect a male dominance over women. And sure enough, if you look at many of the institutions (there are fewer now, thank goodness, but there are a huge number of examples in the past--a good present one is how religious institutions don't allow women to attain anywhere near the power that men do), this is sometimes the case. Of course it's also the case that the institutions of marriage and child-raising systemat…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:47 PM
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Feminism is becoming a bad word, but it's just a word. It's not really important to reclaim that word. You're right, but it is important to differentiate [what I call feminism] from what [people here tend to call feminism]. The words, as you say, aren't really important. The reason it's important to make this distinction is that people here read all of the negative things about "feminism" and get a seriously misguided world-view. This world-view is Harmful to our cause of men's rights activism P…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:37 PM
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So I'm not rational, only 'rational'? Look, as I have now edited into my post, I think your criticism here is the strongest counterargument to my position here. Really. It's damaging (but not entirely destructive in some important ways) to my argument. Now if you would appreciate those of my arguments that are not refuted by your point, I would be thrilled.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:33 PM
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I take offense to that. If you have read any of my comments here you would know that I have made every effort to be rational and perspicacious. Even if you think I'm wrong, there's no need to insult me personally. Your impression of me--what you think my motivations here are, the kind of person you think I am--are wrong, I can guarantee you. I wish you (and everybody else who I know is thinking like you) would appreciate the value of reasonable argument and discussion. Instead, much of this thre…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:31 PM
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You're speaking like a dogmatist. If I respond you will attach much more weight to my words than what I meant by them. I also don't know exactly what you mean by patriarchy theory I'm not sure how to address your concerns here. If you give me a precise claim, I can easily tell you whether I agree with it.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:18 PM
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I believe the same for men, which I stated clearly in the title of my post so you're wrong.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:10 PM
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This is so insulting. The same people that say this turn around and say "kids end up better with two parents, not one" and "Be a real father, spend time with your kid." Who came up with these census definitions?? Seriously, who?
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:08 PM
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I don't believe in Patriarchy Theory, thus I am not feminist. Does not follow Feminism has claimed to be about equality, but it never was and that is quite evident. Oh, you didn't read the thread/post. Do you believe in Patriarchy Theory? If not, you are not a feminist. wat
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:04 PM
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Sorry, that's what I meant.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:03 PM
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an unbased attack.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:03 PM
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Since Locke and Rousseau, freedom has not been defined as "freedom for the self's choices over all". That's a moot point now. Feminism obviously means something different to you, and that's part of the problem - it means different things to different people. I'm just trying to argue that it's possible to be mistaken about what feminism is. Not everybody is right about what feminism is. If you accept this premise (which you will unless you're the ultimate relativist) then it can't be that unreaso…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:00 PM
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Maybe. But I could say you're confusing the women's superiority movement with feminism.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:53 PM
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If [feminism] consisted of being anti-man then you'd be right. Anti-man women who call themselves feminists would try to disown me as a feminist for me also being an MRA, but fuck them, they're ignorant. And I hope you aren't saying that by supporting men's rights activism that I can't also support feminism?
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:49 PM
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nope. Also, when I agreed with you, I didn't mean to say that both genders should have the exact same responsibilities. That wouldn't work because men and women are different--we like different things, and want different responsibilities in the first place. What I was agreeing with was that if women want certain rights they must accept the responsibilities that come with them. If they want equal pay they must work equally. If they want the lion's share of benefits after a divorce they must accep…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:46 PM
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I read the link. Look, it's true that what a lot of people think of as "male privelege" has in reality involved a lot more men giving their blood, sweat, tears, and lives for the common good. I hope you don't think I'm trying to pander to you here, but I agree that what has been seen as discrimination had completely valid reasons. This is called paternalism. The truth is, it may have been for the best that--back in the day--things worked the way they did. But in modern society (really since abou…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:43 PM
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of course!!
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:34 PM
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Gender egalitarianism in the context modern Western Society (aka what we're talking about), as a position, precludes neither feminism nor masculinism. Active egalitarianism would entail both. You're nitpicking.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:28 PM
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If you are both, you're neither That does not follow. there are many conflicts about what are rights and what are "priveleges" true, but a commonly accepted version "rights" is found in the declaration of independence, and is based on centuries of philosophy. Until a force actually in the middle steps up and sorts out the truth from the dogma the fight between the two sides will continue It isn't a fight. It's teamwork towards a mutual goal. Let's say you have two groups, group A and group B, an…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:27 PM
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If you could please complete this sentence: "TheresJustNoWay is wrong because ________" I'm wrong because feminism is really just hatred of men? I'm wrong because I'm trying to constrict its definition to something that is too narrow? I already responded to both of those arguments (and even admitted that they're legitimate and honestly hard to contradict). I just want to know what you're focusing in on so hard here. I don't think we disagree as much as you think.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:24 PM
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You raise a bunch of points here that segue into some very complicated, confusing ethical/moral arguments. I think you're right about all of the above, personally, except that if it were me I wouldn't call those people "feminists" but rather "anti-masculinists" or just "bigots." An interesting aside about equality though: it's hard to imagine a just world where women and men are treated the exact same way, because the two genders are biologically, neurologically different. So it would be complic…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:19 PM
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Ok, honey.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:14 PM
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Right. Can't someone be both? I like the idea of egalitarianism (I guess), but that entails fighting for both men's rights and women's rights.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:10 PM
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Ah. Your argument would be devastating if it were actually true that men have never ever oppressed women (through physical means or otherwise). But they have. Also...and I know this is the wrong place to say this.. but do you really think our society is not patriarchical? Women do shitty things to men all the time--they violate our rights, they denigrate our freedoms. Men do the same to women, and believe it or not, man, we've done it to them more than they've done it to us, historically.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:08 PM
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You sound like you're not confident enough in your argument to make it without name-calling. You also sound misogynistic. You could blame feminism for the evils done in feminism's name, but no instead you blame us for pointing it all out to people. Fuck you. That's pointlessly insulting. I think this subreddit is doing a great thing, I consider myself a MRA, and I blame the perpretrators, not some abstract concept, for the evils done in feminism's name.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 09:01 PM
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It has the fem- prefix because historically women have not had the same rights and opportunities to self-actualize, realize their dreams, be authentic (whatever you want to call it) as men. I wish masculinism was a word. Feminism and masculinism would both be "egalitarian movements" but that doesn't make them egalitarianism. That's like saying a book called "how to cook a steak" should just be called "cooking".
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:59 PM
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You misunderstand. You're giving examples of what bigots who call themselves feminists to hide their malicious agenda have done. Of course, truly helping women helps everybody in society (including men). If feminism only aimed at making so that women experienced the same natural rights as men and had the same ability to lead lives of liberty and authenticity etc then it would be great...and it has been great.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:57 PM
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We don't disagree. When they say "women's rights" they mean what I said precisely. Women should have the same natural rights as everybody else. The result of having those natural rights is what I said feminism was: promoting women's ability to lead a life of liberty and authenticity.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:55 PM
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There are a lot of counterarguments to what I'm trying to say (even if it's correctly understood, which as I see it only one critic here correctly understands). Yours is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:49 PM
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Okay you're right. One of my original points was to demonstrate that the word "feminism" was being misused. But I see now that this is not a sound argument. Throughout feminist history there has been a great deal of disagreement, even among feminists, over what this word means (although now I believe it's pretty settled). Regardless, I would be wrong to try and make the claim that you are misusing the word. But, please try to relate with me here, I still think that my point that you misunderstan…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:47 PM
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Ok. You're right. My point is that what I'm calling "feminism" was called that first, and more, compared to how you might define it.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:34 PM
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Because you can just ignore me and be done with it if it causes you so much distress.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:31 PM
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Women wouldn't be able to vote or have normal jobs if not for feminism. Have a little historical perspective man.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:27 PM
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You're implying that I'm not exactly like you in my disgust and abhorrence for all of those things you describe. I'm not some fucking white knight. See the edit I made to my main post for a response to the "well they're a majority so what they call themselves is right" argument. Also, I'm not going to downvote you even though I disagree with you. Because you're making a legitimate argument. I wish people would stop abusing that system (but that's another discussion).
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:26 PM
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If you had read my post you would have perhaps clicked on the link to my evidence to support these claims.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:24 PM
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If you want to use the word "feminism" for that, then that's your choice. In fact, if the trends you are describing continue, that may very well happen (and it's too bad). But that is just plain old bigotry, and doesn't deserve a word like feminism. But if it must, then I hope you at least conceptually distinguish between the real deal; the big leagues and the shitheads trying to push anti-man legislation and agendas. I would never ask that everybody accept my personal definition of feminism. I …
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:17 PM
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If you read the main link from my post, you would understand that this is not my personal philosophy. Stop making fallacious attacks. Are you saying the mass media should dictate what is true? Look, I see what you're saying (because you're right, it's not so hard). It's not about the word feminism though. If you want to call that craziness feminism then you need to understand that [that thing which means promoting women's ability to live genuine and authentic lives] is something different--and i…
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:12 PM
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If a bunch of people started banging on keys on a piano and calling themselves pianists, would they be? No. No matter how many idiots try to usurp the meaning of feminism, it doesn't define the term.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:09 PM
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Here's an analogy, since this seems to be the most misunderstood point. Me distinguishing what feminism really is is like distinguishing professional guitarists from kids who pick it up and learn chords to impress their friends. It's like calling what people with years of training and experience do in labs with advanced equipment and methodology "science," rather than so many crackpot attempts.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:07 PM
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No, it's what misguided and anti-man bigots are doing.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:04 PM
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You shouldn't be bothered by this.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:04 PM
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You're right, that's really badly worded. I mean to say that "supporting women" or whatever is not being a feminist, just like "supporting minorities" is not being a civil rights activist. Does that make more sense?
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:02 PM
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If you considered yourself a feminist you would vote against that. That's not fucking feminism. It's not promoting the building of authentic, free lives. It's a disgusting political attack on men's rights.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 08:00 PM
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I don't have a brand. Why would you say that? I have read the sidebar, including "what is /r/mensrights' view on feminism. Accusing me of that is a cheap shot. I wish they would stop calling that feminism. And I wish you would too. Feminism is not about shitty legislation that as you say blatantly promotes misandry. Feminism is not just about equality. It's about letting women build their own lives authentically, without unjust societal constraints. Fuck VAWA.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 07:58 PM
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I don't get to decide!! The majority of feminists, and almost all feminist policy is actively anti-male This is fucking exactly why I made this post. No. don't act like they believe your definition of equality. They're wrong.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 07:51 PM
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You're wrong. You literally don't understand what feminism is. This is why I made this post dude. Edit: I was wrong to hinge my response on the definition of a word. I should have said: can't someone be both? Egalitarianism involves fighting for men's rights (as we do here) and for women's rights. There is no "egalitarianism VS. feminism" distinction (at least there shouldn't be).
/r/MensRights20/03/12 07:46 PM
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That's not my point. I'm making larger pragmatic point here by pointing out that if you think feminism is the only problem, you're wrong. It hurts the men's rights movement to misuse the word and concept. Also, if you think feminism should be called egalitarianism, do you also believe this applies to civil rights?
/r/MensRights20/03/12 07:42 PM
2

Ah, you're right.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 06:35 PM
1

This speaks less to men's rights and more to the fact that there are crazy people out there. Police say she may be facing additional charges at a later date. this is the only thing to be concerned about.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 06:18 PM
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It really sounds like this girl is just insane. If she really were malicious in this way, and if she actually did file a police report (reading OP it's not clear just how far she went with this), then I'd have to cave here and say fuck it, OP has a responsibility to take her to court. I found the argument about protecting future unexpecting men from her compelling.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 05:34 PM
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I understand where you're coming from and feel this just as viscerally as you do. If it were me though I'd just get a restraining order and move on as quickly as possible. As long as I'm not in any legal or reputational peril. No need to ruin a life, even if she's crazy.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:22 AM
0

Well done OP! Try to let this incident (and all contact with this girl) fade quickly into the past. Don't get involved with the courts unless you absolutely must
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:07 AM
1

As a newcomer here, I am not familiar with what you mean. Can you explain why he is the cancer? My only reference point is the cancer on /b/. I'm not trolling though.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 11:01 AM
1

Youve been downvoted because people disagree with you, not because they found your argument invalid or unsound. What you're saying is of course true, and in no way diminishes the reasons for having that subreddit or the good that it does for its genuine participants. Sexual abuse is a serious issue that needs to be brought to light--for now, it needs to be politicized. For people to call this cancer is blatantly antirational.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 10:59 AM
1

It's also why you say it
/r/seduction21/01/12 09:56 PM
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True, but that really says something about looks and game. Saw him at my college and he was extremely charismatic, funny, and egotistical. Several girls (students) in the front row flashed him during his talk.
/r/seduction21/01/12 09:50 PM
4

well of course, but what I'm referring to is slightly before that stage of escalation, ya know?
/r/seduction21/01/12 12:08 AM
1

oh shi- totally doing this all night tonight to every girl I talk to
/r/seduction20/01/12 11:38 PM
1

Last time I treated life like a video game I got mugged and broke a rib
/r/seduction20/01/12 08:16 PM
1

Try to be genuinely afraid at least once per day. That's all ya need.
/r/seduction18/01/12 12:44 AM
5

Ah, I didn't mean to imply either that you have anything so serious. If you repeatedly expose yourself to the contexts, procedures, and fears that you afraid of you will become less afraid. In this case that means finding a way to make yourself cold approach despite your fear. It only gets easier. EDIT: The neediness/creepiness goes away after you stop being afraid of rejection. I went with a friend to Times Square last year with the sole purpose of getting rejected by strangers. After the first…
/r/seduction07/01/12 07:58 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_therapy
/r/seduction07/01/12 07:43 AM
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