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Duluth Model.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:22 AM
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Apparently you missed when I included Replace "nice restaurants" and "trips around the world" with anything or any activity that you really enjoy but don't get to do often. Almost like I knew that would be the go-to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 09:57 PM
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More like "I'm going to falsely accuse you of hitting me, and the police will take you away", or "We have a kid, but I'm going to no-fault divorce you, and now you have to pay child support, under threat of the state taking away your freedom". Just to name a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:46 PM
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Far more likely she is not as attracted to him as her "flings". And it is more likely she sees him more as a utility (BB).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:22 PM
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They sure as hell don't take it as an insult. They are getting exactly what they want, and would laugh at you if you try to tell them that you are insulting them, saying they are only good for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:20 PM
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Fine. With all his previous GFs, on first dates, he would take them out to 4 star restaurants. Took all of the previous GFs on trips around the world. Paris, Madrid, Mulan, Tokyo, London. But now, you are his GF, and he might take you to Applebees twice a year. Maybe a roadtrip once every 5 years. Replace "nice restaurants" and "trips around the world" with anything or any activity that you really enjoy but don't get to do often. You would be rightfully pissed off, would you not? It's not that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:18 PM
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Because women tend to use the state to inflict violence on men. Or manipulation on others to the same result. They also don't have to have other inflict physical violence on men to cause massive damage to them. Typically, when women inflict damage on men, its economic. What makes it so much worse, is that it is cheered on and promoted by other people and the state. Whereas when men inflict violence on men, (outside of state approved violence like in war), they are punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 07:06 PM
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Here is the issue that NO ONE brings up when this idiocy is mentioned. There are studies that SHOW that women have a much stronger in-group bias than men do. It is engrained in men to put aside what benefits men, in order to benefit women. You assume that since women put other women over men, that men must do the same for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:20 PM
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How so? If the summary of the article is true, and it's only focusing on public arrest and court records, all of that data is already public. I'm wondering how they will avoid people signing up with false names to prevent this, thou. Unless Tinder requires a government issued ID. That might be a privacy issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 03:15 PM
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Facts! Her only being sexually active with serious LTR is the best way to go. It shows that she holds a positive view of sex, and that she can pair bond. And I apply this equally to men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 06:38 PM
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I don't see how that prevents you from being pumped and dumped. My understanding is that part of the red pill techniques include getting past what they call "token resistance". A pump and dumper isn't going to think "well she isn't asking me out, so I guess I won't bother her". Not taking the first step is not going to hinder a pump and dumper. All you are doing is weeding out the men who don't want to play these teenager games of "well I'll try to make him jealous and hope he makes the first mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 05:30 PM
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Here is the thing. The guys that you went up to and asked, most likely weren't into you anyway. the guys you did this ridiculous game with, most likely would have still been into you if you flat out asked them. "The chase" is not fun for me, at all. It falls into the same "logic" as "Well if you don't know what's wrong, i'm not going to tell you." What is fun, is being with an adult who will tell me what she does and does not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:40 PM
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Try another strategy, or accept that the object of my desire just isn't into me and set my sights elsewhere. The thing is, he could very easily be into you, but because you are doing this ridiculous "I'm going to talk to other guys and hope you get the hint to manage to talk to me", he figures you just might be a flirty person and may not be into him. if you make it clear up front, you save so much headache and possible missed cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 03:28 PM
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Maybe it’s a cultural thing; but most well-adjusted dudes where I come from would read that as “she’s just a flirty person. Enjoy the flirting, but chasing her will be futile.” Or “I might have read that wrong. She’s not that interested.” This would be exactly how I would see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 03:22 PM
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Until women can really empathize with men when they ask for a paternity test, instead of automatically making it about them and how it is an attack on you, I will always laugh when women say shit like "I can't turn off my empathy."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 03:51 AM
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Yet again, you are hyper focusing on the details of the examples, rather than the heart of the matter. Guy wants sex. Some guys were able to sleep with her with no effort, whereas she decides this one guy who she wants an LTR must wait longer than the other guys. Yes, a guy is going to get pissed off at this. it's not because he sees it as a commodity, or an object, or whatever. Its because it is completely arbitrary to him why he must put in more time. How long is "far far longer"? Cos a few da…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 05:26 PM
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That is NOT the context of the argument at hand, no matter how much you try and make it out to be. Just because it is something that a man wants, does not make it a "reward". Just because it is an enjoyable part of the relationship, does not make it a "reward".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:45 PM
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Why is everyone intentionally trying to ignore the heart of the matter, and instead hyper focusing on the metaphor? This is why I gave the ice cream example as well. An example that no one who pretends to not understand the heart of OPs point. Making one person wait for something that all others before them did not have to wait for, is going to make the person who had to wait irritated and put off by that fact. I'm reminded of the saying "You can't make someone understand something, if their liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 04:36 PM
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It is exactly an equivalent scenario. It's not the "spending money" part, but it is the trips and the restaurants that are the point of it. Because both parties could enjoy it, but one party is getting far more benefit from it since they didn't have to put in nearly as much effort. And you are intentionally missing the entire point. The point is that all the other women before got to go on all of these fancy trips without putting in time in the relationship, and I as the man, had no interest in …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:52 PM
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Let's see if I can give you an example. I'm a guy, who would take women out to expensive restaurants and travel the world with them, because I found it fun to travel with someone. But I had no interest in dating these women. Then, when a woman I did have interest in, I didn't take on these trips, or go to fancy restaurants. Because I wanted to make sure she wanted me as a person, not a gold digger looking to always travel and eat at 5 star restaurants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:23 PM
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You are intentionally missing the entire context of the argument. If everyone else got ice cream without waiting, but once you came up to get ice cream, they made only YOU wait for an undetermined time, even thou there is still plenty of ice cream left, would that not be considered punishment? If everyone had to wait to get ice cream approx the same amount of time, then there would be no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:01 PM
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You assume these women aren't dumping the guy, or just using the baby to get resources from him and failing that, going to welfare. It takes two to tango. She chose to lie down with him without protection. She chose not to get an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 12:34 AM
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The issue is, if she knows that she will have welfare sitting there waiting for her, she is incentivized to be a single mother. She dumps the guy and collects child support from him, but if he doesn't pay, then there is WIC for her. She is getting paid either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 12:32 AM
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What responsibilities does she have, then? Both could keep their legs closed, both can use contraception. But only she can have an abortion, and if she decides not to, then he is on the hood for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 12:30 AM
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And if Roe V Wade somehow is overturned, that doesn't make abortion illegal. It just kicks it back to the states to choose on their own. Live in a red state? You have two options. See if you are able to move (a big ask, but if abortion is that important to you, it might be worth it), and in the mean time, try and vote for the politicians in your state to make/keep it legal in your state.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:10 PM
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How so? If it where only a matter of just having sex, there is prostitution. There are a lot of men who want more than just sex. The existence of twitch thots who don't get naked, yet rake in tons of money. Because there are a lot of lonely men who want an emotional connection, not just a physical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 03:09 PM
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Hell, I remember when I was a young teenager (14ish). There was this women in her 20s that everyone thought I must have wanted her, even thou I showed zero signs of it (because for as long as I liked girls, I've always been only interested in girls in my age group.). I couldn't win. If she came up in conversation, people would give these dumb ass smug grins if I said anything about her, no matter how neutral. If I avoided talking about her, they would intentionally bring her up, and I would blow…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 02:07 PM
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I think this is the correct answer. They don't have an obligation to help, but when you run into a person who fits the bill as an incel, point them to someone who can and is willing to help. And I'm not talking about red pillers. I'm talking about someone like Dr. Peterson. But he gets shit on for it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 01:46 PM
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Less than 16% of all men on Earth are over 6 ft. There are far, far more men in relationships then that. I think it highly unlikely that all of those women are not truly satisfied with their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:57 PM
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Here's the thing, though. If you ban them for saying it, they don't suddenly stop believing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 01:37 PM
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I agree. My friends and I have some very different views on certain topics, but that just makes for an even more interesting conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:35 AM
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Yep. I 100% agree, and I actively look for viewpoints that oppose my own, or at least viewpoints that I don't know much about. It is because of this, I see that the world is very, very rarely black and white. And when I point this out, I get called an "enlighten centrist" and people are less and less likely to accept that "their side" may not be 100% correct. It gets frustrating at times.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/20 12:10 AM
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I agree. The conversation I talked about previously, the anti marriage guy started off with stating there are exceptions. But the women later on in the conversation "forgot" that and kept telling him he was speaking in absolutes, because they felt personally attacked. So in your case, the RP guy is the one who is actually working in absolutes. I would assume because his world view was being challenged. It's a human thing to go on the attack or get defensive when presented with evidence that goes…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 09:10 PM
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Does your back hurt from moving that goalpost?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:14 PM
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Agreed. But we do need to walk a fine line. When having a conversation, it really drags the conversation down when every time you make a statement, you have to include "and this doesn't apply to every man/woman". We need to come to an understanding when having conversations that sometimes talking in generalities does not automatically mean you are applying to to every x (unless you are stating that it applies to everyone. Like AWALT). So saying a general statement like "Men like women with large…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 08:13 PM
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citation needed that it advocates for violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 07:29 PM
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What? I have never heard anyone call Driver ugly. Clint Howard, sure (and I really like him as an actor, I'm not trying to slight him), but not Driver.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 07:13 PM
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Does MGTOW advocate violence against women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 07:10 PM
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I never said most. I specifically said one. You said No one ever blamed male suicide on lack of sex. I gave you an example of one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 09:32 PM
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There is at least one guy I've read about who killed himself because he poured a ton of money into OLD, and still couldn't get a date. But sex is just a manifestation of the real need, and that is love and affection from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 09:17 PM
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I was going to say something similar, but you worded it 1000 times better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 09:14 PM
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I don't have netflix. Could you give a summary on how it is not easy to report?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 09:03 PM
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Check out this docu I wouldn't call these guys ugly. I would say they are very average. There is one guy who has a speech impediment. That's going to be hard to overcome, but not impossible. There are a couple who are just shy and have low self esteem. Easily overcomeable. There is a wannabe PUA. Stop being a tool and just act normally, and he could get into a relationship. Then there is Advanced. He isn't ugly, but he seems to have some serious brain chemistry issues, and is very, very high str…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:43 PM
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Yea, I think the person above is just slightly off. They should still improve themselves, but not for the goal of trying to get laid. Do it because it will make your life better. It takes a long time, but eventually you will no longer even want a relationship, because it will just get in the way of your goals. Life is so much better as a guy when you stop trying to get laid. "Ha ha! You're an incel that can't get laid" "Whatever, dude. I'm going back to learning Python." For your sexual needs, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 09:29 PM
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I couldn't even get a minute into it. His manner of quiet talking, like he is trying to not wake up his roommate in the next room is unbearable. MGTOW videos have a similar issue (at least a few years ago when I looked them up), where every MGTOW video had zero emotion. Like they were bored making the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:04 AM
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What you call "whining", all the non feminists call "Finally speaking up about major issues that affect people who aren't women"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 03:26 AM
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I really don't get why so many people can't wrap their heads around the fact that inceldom affects a spectrum of young men. There are incels that range from "normal dude who is a bit socially awkward" up to "Yea, this dude has some SERIOUS mental issues". And everything in between. There isn't a "one size fits all" type when it comes to incels. But I guess if you point that out, you have to point out that maybe, not all incels are at fault for being incel. That makes it a lot harder to demonize …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 07:36 PM
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as the person below said Women who don't want to be around children get abortions while the similar men are forced into fatherhood. But if women KNEW that there was going to be 50/50 custody, along with no child support, there would be a lot less children from single parent homes in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 06:22 PM
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It would make it so women are far, far less likely to "accidently" get knocked up by a guy she likes in order to get child support. It will also make it far less likely that she will just no fault divorce the guy. As for dating, women would still date, they would just be more selective. They would be looking to get wifed up in their 20s instead of 30s. Because once they are married, the guy will be paying for the necessities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 06:19 PM
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That doesn't make sense. Granted, its been some time since I took a biology class, but those defects tend to be recessive. Recessive genes , if I remember correctly, tend to have to present themselves from both the mother and the father. So if one race is more prone to carrying that recessive gene, but the other is far less likely to have that one recessive gene, then the chances of both parents having that recessive gene, passing it on, and having it present itself, is far, far less likely. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:47 AM
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Pretty much. Same could be said for MGTOW for women and blue pills. FDS doesn't effect me because I avoid relationships (or even being alone) with women. Too dangerous in the era of MeToo and false accusations. Plus, life is so much more peaceful where you can do your own thing and you aren't spending so much time chasing tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:42 AM
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I stopped reading after the first paragraph. Your entire premises is based on "FDS works because these women get tons of matches". Newsflash, its because they are women that they get matches. It has zero to do with any "strategy" that they put out there. You can find several "experiments" where a man will make a female profile with zero effort and get 100x more matches than his own profile that he puts hours into.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:38 AM
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Per my observation of people in general, I guess FDS exists because (and I have to say this because people always jump in. This doesn't apply to all people who are on that sub. But I would guess it catches a lot of them). They tell their followers what they want to hear It is a way for followers to heal their ego/ cope with being single. "See, that guy was just low value. I'm better off without him. It's good that I did x thing that FDS told me to do, instead of compromise on it!" And this isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:34 AM
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Yes, it would
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:25 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 01:05 AM
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Because many men don't value that when they look for a woman to marry. Many guys look for a woman who will be able to maintain the home, be a teammate in raising the kids (instead of some stranger at a daycare), spend some time relaxing with, and once in awhile, want to bang him. in exchange, he will bust his ass to bring home the money so she and the kids will remain fed, hope to make enough to buy her the extra things that she wants, be an emotional rock for her when she needs, and every once …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:53 PM
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You don't have to be making 100k+ a year to have women want to "steal money from". Free money is free money. Even if she only gets $1000 a month (or even $500 a month) that is money she wouldn't have had before, and money she does not have to work for going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:42 PM
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You hit the nail on the head. I've been living alone for several years. Loving every minute of it. I dread the thought of having to move in with someone, or having someone move in with me long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 06:30 PM
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There is a flaw in your thinking regarding that most men are not "rich enough for her to be marrying for money". It doesn't matter if they are making the same amount. If she is awarded anything (good chance is she might get the house), thats free shit that she doesn't have to work for, going forward (note, I said GOING FORWARD. Save your "she did work in the marriage" posts.) If someone where to offer you $1000 a month going forward because of a job you quit, and you don't have to do anything go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/20 02:56 PM
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Not OP, but yes, i too have a problem with AWALT. Words have meaning, and when you use encapsulating terms, it makes your point easier to dismiss, and no conversation can be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 11:10 PM
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You are factually wrong about incels. It started out on a forum, created and run by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 02:53 AM
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Bangmaid "Hey, someone who is helping around the house after I bust my ass at work all day, and then we fuck" Nanny "Part of the 'helps take care of the house'' role Cheerleaders "After getting told how awful we are for being men, day in and out. Having to deal with asshole bosses/clients all day. It sure is nice to come home to someone who appreciates all that I do, and supports me" Man, what POS men really must be. /s But even taking your statement on face value, in society, it's a social no-n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 09:13 PM
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^ All truth right here! And if you bring those points up, then again, you are obviously a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/20 08:51 PM
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Thank you for your candid reply. I didn't think about how personal my questions were until you responded. I do appreciate your openness on the reply. Aside from the attractive dickheads, it sounds like you have life pretty well figured out. Having a more casual FWB thing, even with close friends who I am not attracted to sounds like it would be a good way to go (at least in my head). It sounds good on paper. "Look, we are both horny and need some stress relief. Let's bang". But since I follow th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:57 PM
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You might be the first woman I've heard say that. If you are not physically attracted to them, why/how choose them in particular to sleep with? Also, is it just for sex in of itself, or for a stronger connection (platonic, romantic, whatever). I've had a lot of female friends in my life, and they came from different walks of life and had different viewpoints. However, the female friends who were more sexually open, would still only sleep with men they found some attractive quality in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:32 PM
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Active how? By a subreddit? Go on any other subreddit and if anyone says anything negative about women, there will be 20 more people reeing at them. I listed the ways how it is NOT a lot. If it were a lot, how society bends over backwards for women (which i listed) would not be a thing. Again, you personally are so privileged, you think if someone says anything negative about someone in your in group, or even just disagrees, then that is "an attack"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 07:16 PM
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I know that. The point is that it isn't even "a lot" (non majority). It's few, not a lot, regardless of a lot being a majority or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:42 PM
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Next you are going to tell me that AskWomen has a graveyard of comments, citing "derailing"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:27 PM
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i have to call bullshit that "a lot of men hate our guts and want us enslaved". The entire Western world is incredibly gynocentric. Family court, alimony, child support. No selective service required for women. Majority of the spending is done by women. False rape accusations, and damn near none of them, when proven that they lied about rape happening, get ZERO punishment, and there will STILL believe that "well he just got away with rape". Go onto Twitter and tell people you were raped 10 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:25 PM
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As someone else summed it up "He wanted chad treatment without putting in any effort to actually be a chad" But a bigger issue was that he clearly was mentally unstable. Only thought about his own wants, felt entitled. I would take a guess that irl, he was most likely incredibly whiny as well. What I find fucked up (after the whole killing spree he went on. Fuck you ER for that), is that there were fangirls fawning over him after his death. And that if they knew him irl, they wouldn't have given…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:07 PM
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You would be wrong. There is a docu on youtube. Shy Boys. Look it up. Pay attention to the incel named "Advanced". "I would fight the bloodest battle, for the chance to have one fat chick". He talked about how he asked out EVERY woman he could, and still got no results. But the point is, there are guys out there that are getting NO interest from any woman, and even when he goes for "the ugly chicks" he can still get shot down. The big issue with inceldom, or with any label that requires particip…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 06:01 PM
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And the advent of hookup apps really kicked things into high gear, giving her access to ALL the potential men in a 50 mile radius. Think about it. Incels didn't come into the limelight until dating apps were in full swing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:52 PM
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Not an incel (Pence rule). Growing up, I had very, very little IOI from girls my age directed at me. I'm a grown ass adult now. I wouldn't be angry if a woman show interest in me, but I would be very suspicious of her. I have been complimented 3 times in the last decade by women. It would be very odd for a woman to start showing interest in me, if she didn't have intentions other than "he seems cool. I would like to date him". And I base that just off of experience (or lack there of) with having…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:50 PM
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If your theory is true, how much do you think it has to do with women's need to make sure her "friends approve" of him? I forget the term for it (It's not social proof, but something else)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:39 PM
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This is the problem with trying to apply a label to people. There isn't one reason why someone is an incel. Some are really socially off putting and awkward, some have a severe lack of confidence and self esteem (no shit, you are telling me that a lot of these guys were bullied non stop in all social situations, come out damaged and can't 'just be confident?'), some have legit brain issues that feed in on themselves causing complexes, some (very, very few) are legit ugly and lack the skills to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:33 PM
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As a guy who doesn't have a "type", your comment that "taste in women are so varied" rings so very true. For me, it's about the overall package. It doesn't matter if you are x hair color, or x height, or have x size breasts. If they all compliment each other, they will enhance how I view your attractiveness. If there is one feature that I first notice and "gets your foot in the door" attractiveness wise to me, is the face. But you could have a very pretty face, but the rest of you clashes, then …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:10 PM
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Its really interesting that TRP and FDS are two heads on the same coin, but the only difference between the two are the end goals. But because FDS is looking for an end goal, but TRP is not, TRP succeeds typically. Granted, down the road there may be RPers who are still have some hidden regret in the back of their mind, where they wanted the long term companion when they get to retirement age. Maybe that is a tiny, tiny minority. I don't know. But at least in the short and mid run, RPers seem to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 04:53 PM
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It's kind of hard to read into something too much when you are only talking about sex, and flat out said that you gave him your everything. And I didn't say shit about it being meaningless. Again, you are giving away a LOT more about your true thoughts than you realize. If sex was only a tiny fraction of what you gave to do for him, you would have worded it much differently. It's very telling that you used that phrase to word it. I'm a pretty dumb person, but even I can tell that this hit a majo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:30 PM
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Oh, the men suppressing their urge to fuck, that is far, far more likely. All that takes is good enough tech. Either VR with the proper equipment that will give men men their orgasms, or a believable enough sex robot. As for hypergamy, I just consider it a form of greed, and no one group of people, be it culture, race, gender, what have you, is free from greed. It is part of nature. Even non human animals have it. The only difference is that our current society gives one group (women) a pass on …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 11:01 PM
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You're kidding, right? More sex would cause SO much more fighting. Fighting over that one guy/girl that you wanted to fuck, or a friend blowing you off so they could go blow him, or him screwing other girls even thou you are exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:28 PM
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If men became like women in terms of libido, say goodbye to innovation, and have fun trying to fill those tough and dirty jobs after a generation. So many men who do those tough, dangerous, and dirty jobs do so either to make money to attract a mate, or to provide for their families. So for the next generation, if they haven't already started a family, and are not trying to attract a make, are not going to do those dangerous jobs. Garbagemen, construction workers, power line repair. Money is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:26 PM
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And dramatically increase the number of children born to single mothers? That's the quickest way to destroy a civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:19 PM
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If sex is "your everything", that is really, REALLY sad, and says a lot more about you than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:16 PM
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Yea, you are 100% wrong. Ask the owner of one of the biggest sex doll websites, Phil Bass. I've watched two podcasts with him as a guest, and he can attest to you that men for the most part take damn good care of their sex dolls. So much so that you can't even touch another man's doll without asking (and I don't mean in a sexual manner. I mean even so much as touching her hair to see how realistic is is). They drop a few grand into them, why wouldn't they care for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:14 PM
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I highly doubt it. Government programs would just kick into high gear to insensitive having children. More so than they already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:07 PM
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The days of finding the faithful, ideal wife in the church is long, long gone. Young people (both males and females) will rebel against their parents, and have much easier access to do so. Hell, even when I was in church as a teen, pretty much all the teens were sleeping with each other. And obviously, only teens need go for teens. Teens are not and should not be an option for those who are trying to go back to church to find a mate. So what you are left with are the 30+ "born again virgins" in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 10:06 PM
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Oh, I completely agree. I think every single person can agree that incels are miserable with their current situation in life. I'm just laying out that, as with everything in life, some things are far, far easier to overcome for some people, and for others, far, far harder, and sometimes, impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 09:52 PM
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That is a tough hill to climb for many, many men. You are legit fighting against millions of years of evolutionary programming. We are hard wired to want to have sex, because that is how we procreate, which is the "goal" of successful evolution. I absolutely agree that they would be far, far better off if they could turn that part of biology off, so they can focus on other things that fulfill them, but I am certainly not going to try and downplay just how difficult it is for many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:54 PM
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What really pissed me off about that post (I just read it) is that people STILL push the narrative in that linked case, that the judge was trying to victim shame her or something. The judge was trying to understand the exact details of the alleged rape. IIRC, the alleged rape occurred with her on a counter or on a sink. So the judge was asking why it was not possible for her to close her legs in that situation, making it harder for penetration to occur. It had nothing to do with victim blaming, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:47 PM
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That case you linked is missing so, so SO much context on why the judge asked that question (if the case is what i am thinking of, which I really think it is) Why did the judge ask that question? Because she was giving her testimony about how the alleged rape occurred, where the alleged rapist had her up on a sink while raping her. The judge asked why she didn't close her legs, because he was trying to get a better understanding of exactly how this alleged rape occurred. It had ZERO to do with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:41 PM
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ngl, depending on the context of her bringing it up, it sounds like she has the sense of humor that my female friends have (which is why they are my friends).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 08:33 PM
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There can be exploitation of some men by some women on OF. Take a man who just can not get positive attention from women, at all, regardless of how much they try. then you have something like OF where for some money, a woman will at least pretend that you aren't completely alone and someone might view you positively enough to want to be with you. I would call that exploitation to some extent. Especially when some of them will denigrate their simps for not simping hard enough for them. This isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:49 PM
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And its something that the state has inadvertently promoted, by how the welfare programs are set up, and how the family court system is currently set up. Black families used to have the highest marriage rates and lowest divorce rates out of every racial group. Once the government came in with welfare (kick the man out of the house and we will give you more welfare), no fault divorce, and by the government awarding child custody and child support to women the majority of the time, single motherho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:26 PM
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Free porn has been around a lot longer than OF. There is nuance with this. It's not that "she is always 100% at fault for men having to use it" nor is it "he is always 100% at fault for simping" There is something that is breaking in society. Why do you think men are paying for things like OF when there is tons of free porn out there? I would suggest it's because these men are not getting some sort of validation that they would normally get irl. If that is due to women's standards have become to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:21 PM
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If she is actively trying to recruit simps, and berates simps for not simping for her, or not simping hard enough, then yes, she is a scumbag. But if she is not trying to recruit, not shaming men for not simping hard enough, then it is on the simp themselves for simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:05 PM
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No. What they will do is yell at politicians to pass legislation that makes it illegal for employers from not hiring someone because they have cammed before, and get them to pass something similar to the UK's pain in the ass "right to be forgotten" legislation (which just makes the internet even more shitty, and that doesn't make images saved on hard drives just magically vanish). Along with more shamming of men who do not want to date or marry these same women when they are older. They want all…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 06:02 PM
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I think you over-estimate the amount of thirst many men have when they are younger. And more and more kind are coming from single mother homes, where this will be pushes as "the way things just are, now" And what other choice will these men have? They will still have a drive to find a woman, start a family, ect. If most women are doing sex work when they are younger, unless he is part of the 20% (soon to be 10%) chad, where he can afford to be choosy and find a woman who never did sex work, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 02:43 PM
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Which is why so many are trying to normalize the idea that "If you don't want to date a girl who has done any kind of sex work, then you are in the wrong, not her. You aren't allowed to have preferences without being called a hypocrite" Watch. Give it a couple years, and there will be pushes for legislation that employers can't use past sex work like OF as a reason why they didn't hire you, or the reason why they are firing you. I promise you, it is coming next.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 01:34 PM
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Have you followed any court cases, like at all? They take MONTHS just to get to a point where a judge might see it. There is a very good reason why cases take so long. There is always important paperwork that has to be filed. "I informed him!" "No she didn't" Now it's her word against him. All throughout that, the clock is ticking. The courts also will not be able to keep up, at all. It's just not practical. "Oh, I just found out that I am pregnant , and he happens to be away on business." There…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 03:51 PM
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Oh, trust me, attorneys can drag on with the paperwork to buy her enough time, no problem. Also, even without an attorney, there are easy ways to delay it just long enough where they would be out the window. Wait until you know he will be out of town or otherwise very busy where it will make it very, very difficult for him to be able to fight it in a timely enough manner. Wait to take the test until you know you are far enough along where he has even less time to react. "Oh, I'm not sure who the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 03:41 AM
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Regarding only allowing financial abortion within the timeframe that she can get an abortion, then women will just hide the birth until the date has passed. But it will never, ever happen. The state has too much money at stake to change the current child support laws. Plus, any politician who even proposes any change to child support, it would be political suicide. Non stop ads of " politician x wants single mothers and their children to starve"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 01:12 AM
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Keep on deflecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 10:34 PM
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Deflection and goalpost moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 09:22 PM
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Ok? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? You said "I only watch an hour of survivor, what would she watch for 8 hours a day". I gave you a list.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 08:33 PM
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That wasn't the point that was made. The comment that started it all The fact that people who do this suddenly avoid me once they know my interests and project my personality from assumptions. Then someone replied to that Maybe you should get other hobbies besides gaming that you can point to/talk about so you still have other ways to connect w people/show personality? Which is what I replied to. Its more than just "We aren't compatible" it's actively trying to shame men for having certain hobbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 08:28 PM
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[Citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:24 AM
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It still boils down to him having hobbies that she approves of. That is the issue at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:07 AM
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Because those hobbies are who he is. This all goes back to prove the point, that for women to accept a man, he can only have "approved" hobbies, ones she finds acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:31 AM
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Here is a truncated list
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 05:29 AM
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They do. But when they do, they get called women haters, labeled "hate groups", and get their conferences shut down when feminists pull fire alarms. Even when the person who is trying to start a men's DV shelter is a woman (look up Erin Prizzy) And they don't get near the same amount of support from the government than feminist groups do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 05:54 PM
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I do agree that their entire purpose is to be as big a name as possible. I can name 1, maybe 2 kardashians (I don't even know if there are more than 2). I know there are 2 Paul Brothers, but I don't know who is who. I never even heard of Dan Blizarian. I only know about the Paul brothers because I watch a lot of youtube. Most of the media I consume is not mainstream to the everyday person (I stick with anime mostly). As for how much they make, I couldn't care less, and i don't think other people…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 10:50 PM
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No, I'm saying that I wouldn't be able to tell her apart in a line up, because I don't follow her, or InvaderVie. I know about them because other content creators I watch mentioned them in passing. The point I was making, is just because I know their names, or if someone who hates "insta-thots" knows their names, doesn't automatically mean they follow them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:50 PM
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I don't see these men complaining about specific models thou. If I do see them complaining, it seems to be an overall "degeneracy of the modern woman". They tend to talk about it overall. At the most, they would find one or two for examples. Every once in awhile, there will be some girl that becomes more well known. I've heard of Belle Delphine, but if you put her in a line up with 3 other instamodels, I wouldn't be able to pick which one she is. Same with InvaderVie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 03:29 PM
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Objection. Assumes facts not entered into evidence. You are making a huge assumption that these men who hate Instagram models are following Instagram models. Without evidence of this, the entire argument falls apart. I don't care about the thot-ery. I only care about how people are treated. I care that she doesn't go full Invadervie (which I only heard about incidentally on an unrelated youtube channel that mentioned it), or if they try to shame men for not dating them "just because I cam/cammed…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:53 PM
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If the guy gets upset, then either he isn't as think skinned as he thought (the key here is to see how he reacts to being insulted in a playful way by other men). Either that, or you aren't as close of friends as you or he thought. I personally don't participate in insult humor myself anymore, not since I was a teenager. But even if I did, there are guys I am friendly with, but not friendly enough to be able to jokely insult each other. Being treated like you are retarded, as you put it, that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 05:18 AM
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You are just proving the point OP is making. Men can take jabs at each other, and we know its all in good fun. Empathy is defined as being able to understand other people's feelings. If we Bullshit women are more empathetic than men. If a man wants a paternaty test, she will lose her ever loving mind. She makes it all about herself and her feelings "He is accusing me of cheating!". if women really were more empathetic, they would understand his feelings "Look, he can't be 100% sure that the kid …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:20 AM
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So you wanted boys to treat you like "one of the guys", but also say "good" when someone bitches them out on Twitter. Do you not see why men/boys don't treat you like "one of the guys"? Something a lot of men do is make jokes at each other's expense, if they are close enough friends, where they know its just a joke. If you want to be "one o the boys" you will have to be able to take an insult as a joke, as well as fire one back, both take and receive in good humor. In my experience, women (in ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 02:12 AM
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I think you are oversimplifying "just date down". You can't negotiate attraction. I totally get you are trying to address the incels that do have unrealistic standards and won't settle for less. They might be jobless, no ambition, not attractive themselves, and only want a Swimsuit model. I think this is very rare. And the problem is the lack of ambition for them. There are some incels who legit have something wired wrong in their brains, and have very offputting personalities, and due to their …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 06:00 AM
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A personal experience I had with debating a shortcel. He would not, and could not get past the idea that "women never date short men, and they ONLY go for tall men, 100% of the time". It didn't matter how using just basic logic, (there are millions of people in relationships, and there are only a very very small percentage of those men in relationships who are 6 foot or taller. And even fewer of those men who are rich, regardless of height. So logically, there has to be a large portion of men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 05:36 AM
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Of course women are happy with how family court is currently set up. They gain the most benefit from it. Men want change because they are the ones that get fucked over.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 02:44 AM
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Vigilante justice and avenge killings aren't real common or accepted in the west anymore. You are completely wrong on this. If someone harms a child, or a female loved one, you bet your ass there will be violence that will be brought upon them, and if they get charged, there is a very good chance he will be acquitted. There are a LOT of fathers out there that say "you harm my child,you won't live to make that mistake twice" And the whole "Father meets daughter's BF for the first time with a shot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:37 PM
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Me following the Pence rule gets me called a misogynist on Reddit. If wanting to protect myself from false rape accusations makes me a misogynist, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:27 PM
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The women who are most vulnerable would be older women. A Teenager is more likely to have a father who will avenge his harmed daughter. An attractive woman will more likely already have a mate that will avenge his mate. And have the least power in society? Not in the least. They can (and X number do) weaponize their beauty as power over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:21 PM
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Now that's just crazy talk! Next you're gonna tell me that they should be open and honest with them, and communicate clearly to keep the relationship healthy! But for real, you don't have to be celibate until marriage, or fuck anything that is willing. You can find a common ground where you only sleep with people who you are very serious about and would consider being with for the long haul.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:12 PM
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Here is a dangerous black pill for you. Everything you said is correct. But which gender dominates teaching roles? That gender also has a higher in-group bias than the other gender. Society loves to point out even a hint if a man is being misogynistic, but when you point out these facts, well that just proves that you are misogynist for pointing this out. There are legit misogynist out there, many of which are in positions of power over women. No argument here. But there seems like there might b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:02 PM
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So women will have to either lower their standards to go for men of lower standing and be okay with being the beardwinner, share men from the upperclass or check out of the game. I have a feeling that it is going to continue to be the second option, but with more "Men have failed us women" and "Men have become trash and most aren't worth women's time", and more heartbreak when she can't lock down that chad she wants, while settling for BB. The only thing I could possibly see that would change th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:54 PM
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10% of those men won't be enough to do all the grunt work, dirty and unpleasant jobs that need to be done, and women sure as hell won't do them. And I don't blame women for not wanting to take all of these hard ass and dangerous jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:29 PM
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Again, even if the older guy is going after younger women, she still has some power over him. Unless he has her at gunpoint where she was forced to be with him, she has power. She is obviously getting something out the the relationship. That might be gifts, money, or social status. For her to stick around, she would have to get those things. If he was not providing them for her anymore, she can leave, and he has no power to stop her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 09:58 PM
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Oh no! Competition! No no no. That isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:48 PM
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What is weird, is that younger women have power as well. They can easily use their attractiveness to manipulate men into doing their will. Just like men can use their physical strength and financial strength. People don't want to address the power that women can use. Men and women have different power cards that they can and do use to get ahead in one form or another. We are only allowed to condemn when men abuse their power cards, and we are not allowed to even acknowledge the power cards that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:40 PM
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People want to fuck hot people! News at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:26 PM
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How about using statistical logic, then? Take the percent of men over 6 feet, number of men in relationships, and number of rich men. There are far more men in relationships than there are tall and rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:19 PM
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Envy seems to be more and more common (or at least more obvious in the age of information). Celebs have people willing to falsely accuse them of misdeeds, even if they have nothing to gain from it. Rich people and generally successful people get a TON of hate. And yes, the very attractive women (especially the ones that monetize their attractiveness) get a ton of hate. They also get a ton of love as well. When people bitch about OnlyFans, I see very little complaining about the morality of it (w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 06:17 PM
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Some time ago, I went in circles with a shortcel on exactly this topic. Even giving the shortcel statistical logic (there are a TON of short men in relationships/marriages, and statistically, they all can't be rich. They could not or would not wrap their heads around the fact that there might be other qualities that many women find more important/attractive than just height. Sure, they might prefer if he was a bit taller, but his other qualities might overrule the "I really want my partner to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:57 PM
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The sad part is, these attitudes are not limited to Reddit, or even just online posting. I don't know if it was just because I was an oblivious kid and I only recently started noticing (within the past 10 years), but it seems to be getting far, far worse, where it seems like people can't agree to disagree anymore. That if you don't agree with me, then that means you are an evil person. It's always been around, (I remember growing up in the Church, and many times an argument I would hear in churc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 10:48 PM
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First, I think it's invalidated because he already said step one takes a lifetime to master. Doesn't that make this whole list moot? Second. Holy shit THIS sounds absolutely EXHAUSTING. Why in the hell would I want to be in a relationship with someone who is actively working against me, who I have to go through all of this bullshit just to get the relationship back to being equitable for both of us. There are so many other things I could be doing with my time, than to deal with all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 07:16 PM
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A thousand times this! The only thing I would add is that people should try to be civil, and argue in good faith, too. Now, this isn't always going to happen, but a effort needs to be made. If someone who you agree with seems to be uncivil in their posts, or seems to be arguing in bad faith, it would be a good idea to call them out on that. Circlejerking only serves to give a tiny hit of the "brain tingles" and nothing else. Debate might make onlookers re-evaluate their position on things (and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 06:45 PM
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I really wish this BS talking point would fucking die already. There are in fact men, that no matter what he does to improve himself, still will not get laid without paying for it. Because, unless they actively rape a woman, there will be some guys that women will still refuse to have sex with. So their inceldom, at a certain point, is still relant on someone else. That being said, I would say the vast majority of incels are incels because of major failings on their part (99% the fault of their …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 06:37 PM
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I never said it was a lavish lifestyle. I said it was free money for zero effort. Even if what they get is really shitty, its still free to them. Again, given the same opportunity, there are a lot of men who wouldn't turn down free money. And again, welfare might not be their primary goal. They might first try to get on child support, first.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:51 AM
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It's more than just money. Section 8 housing, WIC, ect. It's free to her. Free money is more than $0 free dollars. And before you try and label me a woman hater, I'm just pointing out that this is the current situation. It is the human condition to want free stuff. If somehow men could get free money from the state, and women were the primary tax payers and payers of child support, you're damn right that tons of men would do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:19 AM
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I don't understand what you mean by the second option. Could you clarify? Here is the thing, there are a lot of single mothers out there that intentionally got pregnant in hopes to get either money from the baby daddy, or, failing that, money from the state. The current welfare system insentivizes single motherhood. The woman wins because she gets money and she gets an ego boost for "I'm a strong independent woman who don't need no man" (completely ignoring that she is only surviving due to eith…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 12:42 AM
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Many people see retail workers and construction workers as "worthless", too. That just means there will always be assholes who look down upon others for any number of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 11:14 PM
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You are ignoring the point. If she gets married young, they aren't pissed that she isn't sucking his dick in particular, which is what your main point was. Your assumption was that when RP men say that she didn't get with them when she was "in her prime", that they are pissed that she didn't fuck them specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:13 PM
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Why do you assume the speaker is talking about themselves? I don't see any of these RP guys complaining when women get married "in their prime" instead of "thoting it up". "She got married to some other guy when she was in her early 20s instead of getting with me said no RPer ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 10:02 PM
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I'm pretty red pilled when it comes to relationships, but one big thing I never agreed with is was the whole "men and women can't be friends" Growing up, I had a lot more female friends than male ones, and I was only interested in 2 of them. Dated one of them for a short bit. All the rest of my female friends were platonic friends. We shared the same interests and had the same sense of humor, just like my guy friends. I never did anything for them that I wouldn't do for a male friend, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/20 09:48 PM
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See: The vast majority of recorded history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 08:32 PM
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Which is why I think the whole sexbot/VR "revolution" is way overhyped. There are petabytes of free porn available, yet OnlyFans and other forms of camgirling still makes fucking bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 08:32 PM
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I don't think this is the best way to go about it. I know that if I were asking women out, I would want her to be upfront with me. "No thanks, I'm not interested". Boom, done. Women tend to do what you are saying, and so many guys get annoyed with it. You can still reject people and while being tactful. Side stepping is passive. But then again, I don't like passiveness in people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 07:48 PM
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Wrong, wrong, wrong! Again, you keep ignoring the vast majority of people who consume this media and do nothing. It is not the fault of the forums, media, ect they consume if they have a hard time separating fact from fiction. They happen to be drawn to the content, but the content was not the cause. Alex, he already had those ideas in his head. Elliot, did you read his manifesto. It is very, very clear he already had a VERY inflated view of his own self importance, as a ego defense mechanism. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:36 PM
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I think you are mixing up cause and effect. These "anti-women" subs you refer to, even if they didn't exist, the men who cause violence against women irl, would have done so regardless. Blame the actual perp of the crime. It's the same bullshit boomers used to try and ban violent video games. There are millions of people who play them, or watch violent movies. Only a small amount of these people go on to commit real life acts of violence. They may be drawn to these video games and movies due to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 03:18 AM
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How the fuck is WebMD not reliable? God, you will do ANYTHING to avoid saying you were wrong. Make sure you feed the hamster, don't want it to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:40 PM
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WebMD Nearly half of all women currently use sex toys or have done so in the past. I knew you were going to "well men can use dildos, too!", which I addressed, and you completely ignored. How many men, either gay, straight, or bi, buy sex toys that ARE MARKETED TO WOMEN! I ask again, have you been in many sex shops? Huge sections of sex shops are marketed to women. God, you are hamstering so hard trying to prove your point, even thou I have shown your point to be wrong. the "power and status" fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:50 PM
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The goalpost shifting is astounding. Many, MANY women find power sexually arousing. That is selling SEX to women. They are sex toys......for women. Who in the hell do you think are buying them? Do you see many men buying vibe eggs for themselves? I promise you, women far out buy men when it comes to dildos, vibes, ect. There are far more straight men than there are gay men. Do you think gay men typically need to buy dildos? Do you suspect a ton of straight men buy dildos or vibes? Have you been …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:25 PM
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People have been bitching about "sexualization in comic books" since comic books have been around. Yes, the ripped man on the cover of DS is the same as the half naked woman on the cover of the latest DC comic book, even if she is holding a car above her head. It's selling sex. You keep trying to say people are selling a power fantasy to women, but it is still selling sex. Why are you trying so hard to say you can't sell sex to women? And again, sex toys for women make BANK. You absolutely can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:02 PM
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"What do these half naked women actually do in these comic books? Very little fucking" These ripped men are still very, very much selling sex to women. Same with half naked women, even the superhero ones who lift cars above their heads and shit, are still selling sex to boys and men. And you keep ignoring the female sex toy industry. By even your definition, that is selling sex to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:17 PM
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It does involve sex. And a decent amount of it, regardless of what you think. Again DS has ripped men front and center, on the cover. Often out in the woods or country. Not very expensive. And again, dildos (who's market is majority of women), vibes, ect, take up HUGE sections of sex shops, and these companies (not sex shops in particular, but the sex toys generally) make a fuck ton of money. There are sex shops that cater to women, and the rest of the sex shops cater to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 03:26 PM
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EL James has gone on record saying this is what she wants in a sexual relationship. Every single DS cover has a ripped, rugged man front and center. It is absolutely about selling sex to women. Oh, and I forgot. Female sex toy companies make BANK.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 02:19 PM
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Danielle Steele and EL James would beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:35 PM
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I really think the sexbot hype is way over-rated. Porn has been free for years, yet people still pay a premium for it. Something tells me that sex bots aren't going to suddenly make the majority of men not have sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:38 AM
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Been living on my own for years. Somehow I managed to work a full time job, with overtime, and still get my dishes done, bathroom clean, and laundry done.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:36 AM
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Agreed. You can keep things dark, and still make it age appropriate. The whole "Oh he's just sleeping" I would argue is far more harmful then telling them the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:21 AM
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No, it didn't. It's still right fucking there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:20 AM
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The Duke Lacross team. Matress girl. Johnny Depp. Vic Mignogna
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:19 AM
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Now that is just crazy talk!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 09:19 PM
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Raising them? Nope. Teaching them 1 or 2 things does not equal raising.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 09:15 PM
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It's getting more and more common. I couldn't put a number on it currently, since I would have to have a lot of data to come up with a close number. And we have to figure out criteria for it. Are we only counting cases where she goes to the police? Are we counting cases where she only puts him on blast on social media and never goes to the police? But let's say false accusation are only a quarter of unreported rapes. It's still life destroying for a man, all for what? What did he get out of it b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 09:00 PM
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Women are rarely raped by strange men (it's mostly done by someone who they trust). So they should not be weary around strange men they come across? Getting hit by lightning is so rare, so it's foolish to seek shelter if a storm is nearby! As for child support, there are men that are forced to pay for children that are not his, all the fucking time. Most of the time it is because of paternity fraud, but there are more and more cases of "he acted in the roll of the father, so he must pay". As for…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:55 PM
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What a fuckin leap from what he said. "Yea, women are not worth going to prison or being forced to pay for kids for 18 years" "WHY DO YOU THINK WOMEN SHOULD BE CALLED CUM BUCKET WHORES!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:49 PM
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Ring around the rosary is about the black plague. London Bridge is about the death of the English Monarch. Rock-a-bye Baby is about a baby that falls out of it's crib which is located in a tree. And if you look at the original fairy tails that haven't been sanitized, are pretty damn dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:47 PM
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How would that fix anything? The 80/20 rule would still apply, and you are not changing the percentage within the group of men on their desirability. The only way to change the 20% percent of top men would be to take them completely off the table for women (kill them, send them off somewhere, what have you, which I don't advocate for at all).That is the only way the guy who is in the top 30% of men would be bumped up to the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:20 PM
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Simple enough to work around it. If you are a man and can't make an account because there are too many men, just make some fake female profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 08:09 PM
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I wasn't referring to "comments in private" in my first post. Yes, in their free time, they can say whatever they want. I have no way of knowing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:25 PM
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And I see both of them in the same way. Assholes. The personal trainers even more so, because they are failing at their job. You have someone who is trying to get better by hiring you, and you shit all over them? Sounds like they are the asshole, not the fat person looking to get healthy .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:12 PM
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If a woman wants to have an onlyfans account, do porn to get paid, that is her choice. I don't object to that on the face of it, nor do I think it is the cause to male sexlessness. However, there are aspects that I do not like. Women who are on OF, and shit on men for using OFs. I have a problem with. Women who are on OF or other streaming services, not just relegated to porn (Twitch), who shit on their male viewers for not paying them enough (cough InvaderVie), I have a problem with (and that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 09:57 PM
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I don't get your point. Your first point, I assumed you meant that sexbots would upend the sexual marketplace, as in, more men would just not bother with real women and just focus on bots instead. I don't think this will be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:21 PM
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It's far more than that which they get for benefits. And yes, there is a large amount of women who would prefer sitting on their ass collecting welfare checks, rather than busting their ass. There are a lot of guys like that, too, but it tends to be harder for them to do so. And unless they are really, really, attractive, if they are living off welfare, they are going to be hard press to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:03 PM
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As the above poster mentioned, there is more than just the physical. There is the emotional element that would be missing, the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 05:59 PM
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Women will eventually learn that without said beta bucks game they're personally responsible for their own material welfare. Not when there is daddy government there to bail them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:36 PM
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I don't wanna sound like those crazy Christians, but it's even in the Bible lol, in the end of times the clay and the iron will be joined but nothing will come out of it.It's insane to think about that now that only what we have in the market are horrible sex dolls. So, sex dolls = golems?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:33 PM
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In San Antonio I believe, they tried to open a sex doll brothel. That got shut down before it even took off. If they want to ban sexbots, I can see the argument going like this. First, grant AI rights. Once AI has been granted the same rights as a living human, argue that an AI can't consent to sexual relations since it is programmed to always say yes. Thus sex with AI should be illegal. They will accept sex dolls. Using that as leverage. "We are only taking away sex with AI. You still have your…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:30 PM
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A thought just occurred to me. When it comes to advancement in computer tech, people always talk about storage space. Why does no one seem to focus on creating more efficient coding languages? Or more efficient compression of data?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 03:07 PM
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I really think the "sexbot revolution" is way overhyped. Even thou there is free porn available online, petabytes among petabytes, there are thousands of men who still pay for onlyfans and other premium sex services.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 02:57 PM
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They do support it with wholesome content. You even admitted it in your previous post. Sticked post was a post about where they traveled. Or it is because it not wholesome content you approve of. Its your way of trying to control what they do. And if you were to tell them this, they would just laugh at you. You really keep ignoring what I am saying in plain English. The people who post in MGTOW tend to be in their red pill rage mode, and most of them will grow out of it and beyond it. You are on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:59 PM
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You completely missed the point of my post. You only see MGTOW when they are in their limited red pill rage mode. You don't see the majority of them who just go on about their lives. There are people who post in hobby subreddits who you would not realize they are MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:47 PM
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Then by definition, the juice is worth the squeeze to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 12:27 AM
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Here is the thing that a lot of people who aren't knowledgeable about MGTOW don't realize. A lot of posting on MGTOW are men going through their "red pill rage" stage of MGTOW. A few never move past this phase, but most do, so they slowly post less and less, so it stands to reason you will see an over representation of these red pill rage posts, but fewer "Look at this new hiking spot I found". Those type of posts are reserved for subreddits dedicated to those hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:31 PM
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What part doesn;t sound logical? No fault divorce, the rise of false accusations, the increase in effort on your part to even get dates with no additional effort on her part, ect. Seems pretty clear to me. The juice isn't worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:26 PM
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Unless you are raping these women, they have validated you by giving you access to sex with them. You have to put in work to "prove yourself" to them, whereas she did not. Women are the gatekeepers to sex. Men are the gatekeepers to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:17 PM
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Women are holding their own.....when they are younger. I would venture to say the average 60 year old single man is far happier than the average 60 year old single woman. But why are people (women) so afraid of MGTOW? They are in fact holding their own, and these MGTOW men are not making the cut, why are they so afraid of MGTOW? MGTOW typically stay away from women when possible. If these men are leaving these women alone, everyone wins, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:09 PM
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First, it's not a movement. It's a label that some people online have adopted for themselves. Second, there are a lot more men that are going MGTOW, and they just go about their own lives. These men, unless you know what questions to ask them, you wouldn't even know. Your neighbor Bob who just went through his second divorce, who says "Yea, I'm not going to date or get married again. It's just not worth it anymore". He has adopted a core tenant of MGTOW. As other people have stated, the online v…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:58 PM
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Finding better things to do with your time other than trying to get validation from women is a much better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:34 PM
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Who said anything about being "forced" out of relationships or into marriages in the above poster's scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:30 PM
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There are viewpoints that MGTOW hold that I disagree with, but one phrase they have I think rings very true. "We don't recruit. We just watch them arrive"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:20 PM
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I would like to see the person who I responded to, say the same thing to a woman who has been cheated on. They are trying to downplay the pain men feel when they are cheated on, but I have a strong feeling they wouldn't dare say it to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 07:05 PM
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Yea, because the chance of having to pay for a kid you thought is yours, but turns out isn't, is such a tiny little issue. /s It's almost like men want to loved for who they are, and if they are cheated on, it shows that they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 04:58 PM
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There are a lot of religious people who still sleep around. Here is my thought. People who are willing to wait until marriage before having sex, tend to have a very different view on sex than someone who is willing to have sex outside of it. Someone who has sex outside of marriage might (MIGHT) view sex just something that two adults do, with only a little bit of meaning. whereas if you wait until marriage, you hold that sex is very, VERY, special, and getting divorced means that something speci…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 02:41 PM
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Or to just walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:09 AM
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"It seems to be really easy to avoid being raped by just finding the right guy who has no criminal history!" See how this is victim blaming? As for the second part of your post, even if she is making her own money, that does not mean you are not BBs to her. Once she has you locked down, she can quit her job. When stuff has to be paid for, guess who is going to be paying the majority of it? (Women very, very rarely marry someone who makes less then them, and they will easily use the logic "well y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:09 AM
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Same logic used by people who play the lotto. The difference is the are only out a couple bucks per shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:38 PM
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Show me the quote. I said no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:16 AM
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If being a cuck is happiness, I will be miserable for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:08 AM
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JFC it took long enough for you to admit you were full of shit. Even as a kid, that was the definition I was taught. We went on for DAYS, just so I can prove that your first statement I think you're missing the part where men don't sexual harass each other. Women get stalked online then harassed when they tell the person off. Is false. No where in this entire conversation did I say one gender had it easier than the other. The entire time was to prove that sexual harassment in online video games …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:01 AM
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To do what? I just laid out a way that I think would fix the issues. You're reply is very poorly worded, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what you are saying. Using church as a framework, people who grow up in the church (and follow it's teachings, not just go because they are forced to), tend to get married very young. So "waiting" to have sex isn't much of an issue, as long as their is an equal number of young women to young men. But that is just if people want to fix the problem. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:57 AM
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In this context, no it is not. Re-read what the person I first replied to is saying. "Why are you all making everything about sex!" Which I explain why everything is about sex. That is what I was addressing. At this point in time, incels are not part of the conversation. You are trying to insert them into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 12:24 AM
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You are still incorrect. using a double innuendo or other conversation of a sexual nature, even if it doesn't even imply the listener is involved, is still very much sexual harassment. So if you and I were having a conversation related to work, and then you slip in "So I was having sex with my partner last night...." That is still sexual harassment. sex·u·al ha·rass·ment noun behavior characterized by the making of unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances in a workplace or…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:01 PM
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Dingus is not sexual in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:37 PM
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You examples are also sexual harassment. It is unwanted comments or contact of a sexual nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:19 PM
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It absolutely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 01:26 PM
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That has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:38 AM
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It's not sharing the chads that they mind. Its that as they get older, the chads will pay less and less attention to them. So now they are sexless AND have signifigantly less resources than the BBs who, instead of getting laid (because women were not interested in them at the time), focused on making more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:10 AM
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True fucking facts right here. At the current rate things are going, people are just going to become more miserable. Men will be bitter when they are younger because they are sexless and not part of the 20% that women want to fuck when they are younger. Women will become bitter when they are older when they are legit trying to find a long term partner. I am an atheist, but I think the church is pretty wrong on relationships, except for a couple things. Young people should be seriously looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:07 AM
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It's almost as if.....we see both men and women as.....human, and realize that means they should be treated equally, instead of always defending the women, and always telling the men they need to stop being horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:54 AM
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It really depends on how you look at it. Would you rather have to put in minimal effort (make a bio, look at results that come in), and get a lot of results, even if the results are crap? Or would you rater put in a LOT of work (make a bio. Got through lists of women, messaging them over and over again. Looking at their bios which tend to be bare bones, trying to come up with a unique opening line in hopes she will respond x100), and get zero matches?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:51 AM
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Are you fucking kidding me? In those communities, men get sexually harassed by each other all the time. "Look at this little dicked mother fucker!" "I bet he wouldn't even know where to put it if a woman was even willing to sleep with him" "Shut up, virgin".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:39 AM
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Sex is THE primary driving force for....everything. It is innate in our DNA to want sex. It is innate for men to want youthful partners, as they have a better chance of having healthy offspring, and it is innate for women to want partners who will provide them resources for them and their offspring as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:27 AM
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Good luck getting a date at ALL if you are not very attractive, then. "Oh, he is average looking. Meh, not good for a fling. And he seems to be broke af, too. Not really relationship material either. Pass". At that point, she will think you bring nothing to the table, so why waste her time when it can be better spent fucking more attractive dudes (if that is what she wants), or trying to find a better LTR mate (if that is what she wants)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:11 AM
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The women absolutely use the boot of the State, or the boot of the mob, to fuck over good, honest men. Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:43 PM
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That sounds absolutely exhausting, just to cover your own ass. There are so many other things that I can do with all that time spent. In all reality, you do all of that, and is it really worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:42 PM
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I very much agree. Sex robots might help a bit. Society would have to knock off the shaming aspect of it, however for the weak men to get on board with them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:21 AM
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Gotta be careful of common law marriage, however. It's only going to get worse before it gets better. I forsee Palimony becoming a thing late in my lifetime. It's gotten so bad, The Pence Rule is the only way to really protect yourself. Because even thou you have your great equalizer right now, she will pull out the false accusation card on you when she is not getting what she wants. With the Pence rule, good fucking luck trying to prove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:32 AM
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Nah. Men don't have to go that far. Just cut back on how much you contribute to society. Stop interacting with women. And when women pretend to be "all for men's rights and oh so anti feminist" don't relent. Tell them to kick rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:29 AM
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Office work has only very, VERY recently become a thing in human existence. The fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:19 AM
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Because women will get him fired, get his name plastered all over the internet, so he can no longer associate with people irl, or get another job. Women have the social marketplace locked down. They have weaponized their in group bias in a way men could never do effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:17 AM
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Fight with does not equal do it for them. And you want to know why? Because society worships women, and will, without question, protect and defend women without a second thought. It is social suicide to say anything that might paint women in less than flattering light. The Men's right movement, which focuses on men's issues, is vilified by feminists because they dare say "Society sees men as disposable. False accusations do happen to men a lot more than feminists want you to think"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:10 AM
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Only after he was bashed for years, and he had to have hard, undeniable, fucking evidence that he was the one being abused. Heard, she didn;t have to have SHIT. Just her accusation was enough to get everyone to back her side without question. Fuck off with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:05 AM
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THEY FUCKING DID! And they get endless shit for it! It's called The Men's Right Movement. they can't even hold a conference without people pulling fire alarms to get the building evacuated.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:01 AM
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Funny you have to go all the way back to the victorian era to prove your point, instead of a more modern one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:59 AM
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Yet Feminists keep saying over and over again that feminism helps men too. Taking into account Karen, it seems like feminist just might be full of shit!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:58 AM
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Why do you say that? the 80/20 rule would still apply. I think TRP would turn more MGTOW if the majority of men were RP because of the 80/20 rule. "I'm doing all of these steps and still not getting as much sex as I want? Why bother?" It is to be seen if men who become MGTOW because of that are truly happy. Or are you truly a happy MGOTW if you see the danger men are in from false accusation, from the court system, from double standards, and decide to go MGTOW because of those reasons instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 05:51 PM
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So, men have to improve themselves, but women just have to look for a HVM? Why do men entertain dating again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 05:25 PM
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I wonder if they would apply that to deadbedrooms. "We haven't had sex in 6 months!" "I gave you a blowjob 4 weeks ago!" So now does it count as sex and cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:42 PM
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but lacked the will to stop her body controlling her. Apply that to a man and see how well that flies. Sounds like a justification in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 03:40 PM
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i very much disagree. Women were employed in WW2 while most of the men were at war. The family unit was still fine. The government has incentivized single motherhood. they have it set up perfectly, because if you argue against it, you "want children to starve" and "expect women to stay in abusive relationships because they are dependent on their husband", completely dismissing any responsibility the woman might have. And it's not like we don't already have a ton of resources for abused women (wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:48 PM
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As they cant as easily secure a mate that is dependent on his resources for childrearing. Women will have access to the resources on their own to raise any prospective children they choose to have, so the social convention of two parent households will probably fade as well. There is a major flaw with this argument. Women are still dependent on men's resources. It's just that she doesn't have to stay with that man in order to get them. Child support, or she can rely on daddy government (welfare)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:09 PM
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Huh. I too had an older sister, and I never had a hard time making female friends. Other than the 1 female friend I dated, I was not interested romantically in all my other female friends, and I thought that was why. Perhaps having an older sister helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:56 PM
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I easily do all my own cleaning (this isn't the 40s, where everything had to be done by hand). I don't want children. But if a man says "I want a woman who will keep the house up and take care of the kids", he is labeled as a mysognist, which is what the person above was trying to get at. "YOU JUST WANT A LIVE IN MAID/BABYSITTER THAT YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH! WOMEN ARE NOT YOUR SLAVES!" But, women tend to look for men who will uphold their traditional roles (provision and protection).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:12 PM
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No, you aren't understanding. It's a preference not a requirement. I'll give you an example. A job listing will list requirements and preferences. A guy will say "Hell, I meet 80% of their requirements, and 1 preference. I'll give it a shot and apply." and a woman will look at the list in it's entirety, see that there are 2 things she doesn't meet, and won't bother applying. It seems like men and women see preferences and requirements differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 02:20 AM
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They do what thots, thou. They just don't want to LTR them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 02:14 AM
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Very true. Only my family is entitled to my provision and protection. I'll help my friends, too, but even they aren't entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:30 PM
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Hell, there was a case awhile back where a man helped a stranded women for several hours, fixing her car, and later she MeTooed him. Sorry, only my family is entitled to my provision and protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:28 PM
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Welcome to Reddit! First time here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:26 PM
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That he had a "preference" I think something you are not getting is that men have preferences, not requirements when it comes to who they will sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:23 PM
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How so? They said they prefer women with low n-counts. if you are assuming that if someone doesn't have a preference, that means they will abuse anyone who doesn't fit into that group, then that says a lot more about you than it does about them. I have a preference being around people who share common interests that I have. That does not mean I would treat people who don't enjoy things I enjoy with contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:21 PM
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You are not addressing my points, and just deflecting. I explained why your "reasons" were bunk. Telling me to "grow up" is in fact shaming. You have no argument. We are done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 10:16 PM
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Again, you are making it all about you. Get over yourself. It is about the child, not you. He is wanting to make sure the child is his. Because guess what, even if the child is his, that doesn't mean you aren't cheating on him. It just means that you did get pregnant by him. And your rape example is wrong. All that means is that sex took place. It says nothing about if it was consensual or not. this rapist argument is really, really dumb. Get over yourself, its not about you. It's about if the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:34 PM
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You are really grasping at straws, here. First, we are talking about her saying she isn't into acts like anal. If she just had hemorrhoids, she would have just said that. And we are talking about her shutting it down with him, forever. And we are not talking about just anal, it was just an example of a sex act that she did in the past but won't do with him. Telling me to "grow up" is the same as telling me to "man up", and it exactly what I expected. It is the last resort when you have no argume…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 02:26 PM
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Yep. Exactly what I thought you would do. Deflect. You are making it all about you. You are completely ignoring his POV. As for proof of him not being a rapist? you can't prove a negative. you have to have evidence that he is a rapist, not have evidence he isn't one. Him wanting a test is not automatically saying you cheated. It is him wanting to verify the kid is his. The kid isn't a bastard until the test proves otherwise. The kid is an unknown until the test verifies one way or another. Schro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:30 AM
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Sadly, there are some states where they will still award child support because you "took the role of a father". The state doesn't care who pays, as long as it isn't the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:18 AM
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i would not underestimate the power of human stupidity. It might not dawn on some of them that they could be found out until they are about to take the test. Or they could be rolling the dice and hoping the kid is his.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:16 AM
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What don't you get. There are times where women lie about what they have done with other men to their current SO. Their SO comes across a sex tape that she did with another guy (or guys), where she is doing sexual acts with those men, but will not do with her current SO. He confronts her about it (you did anal with them, but when I asked, you turned me down). And she replies with "but I didn't like it". He then points to the video, and shows that she seemed to be enjoying it. Or even if there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 07:00 AM
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You are making no sense. you are saying that a white nationalist left the mother of his child because he had a paternity test, and the test showed that the child wasn't "pure" enough for him? Now, was it still his kid, or was someone else the father, and that is why he left? If this story is even real. You are not being clear at ALL in what you are saying. It is still not a good reason at all to allow paternity fraud to keep going at the pace it currently is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:47 AM
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I never said they were getting rich, at all. Re-read what I said again. I said they are using the children as weapons, demanding he "take responsibility" for his kids. But he was already doing that when they were married. She thinks that she will get decent money from his child support, and then land another sucker to help pay for her shit. But we are getting off of the main point. You argued it was an issue regarding her privacy because if he was so hung up on race and found out she wasn't "pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 06:04 AM
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I'm sorry that more and more men are waking up to the bullshit of "well I didn't like it" "But I have the video right here, and you seem to really be into it". It must be starting to get scary to women out there. Men are starting to say "You know what, all this BS isn't worth it". Shaming is becoming more and more ineffective, and women are even making it more dangerous to even be around them, where they are starting to complain that they can't get 1 on 1 time with male mentors, because the male…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:57 AM
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I really hope the person I replied to replies back. I would be interested in seeing how they rationalize this. I'm going to take a stab and predict it will be some form of shaming or deflection. "Men shouldn't be with that woman if he doesn't 100% trust her" "My husband loves me and wouldn't even think about asking for a test, because that is how our relationship, and how adult relationships work. Maybe when you grow up, you'll find this out" Complete deflection, not addressing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:51 AM
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i don't get your point at all. Again, if he is some white nationalist who is so worried about keeping his race "pure", I would expect they would have done DNA tests on their ancestry long before kids came into the picture. Also, the person who replied before me makes a very good point. Many women have no problem using kids as weapons in family court, but will demand that he take responsibility for the kid, when he already was when they were married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:37 AM
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Not by as much as you would hope. don't underestimate human stupidity. I can imagine there will still be a decent amount of women "rolling the dice" and hope that the test turns up to be her husband's. Or a lot of them might not even think that far. They might live in the moment of the affair, and not until they are about to do the test does it really hit home that they might be outed as a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:33 AM
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Yes, all three do. The government wins because they won't have to issue welfare. The taxpayer wins because they won't be footing the bill on that welfare. The kid wins because mom and dad have a better chance of staying together, thus increasing that kid's chances of success in life, and a better chance of not ending up in prison, as there are far more inmates that come from single mother homes than from two parent homes (which is also another win for the tax payers.)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:30 AM
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I do think there will still be women who will roll the dice. They will gamble that even thou she is fucking chad, maybe her BB was the one that got her knocked up. And a fallback plan, I could easily see her trying to guilt him into being there and staying with her anyway, because that is what a "real man" does. Never underestimate the hopeful stupidity of the human population.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:27 AM
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At first, it would result in more single mothers. But give it a few years, and there will be more abortions instead, or less infidelity, as the women who cheat realize that their comfy life will be ruined if the kid turns out to not be his. Yes, it will still happen, as people in general are dumb and think "Well, maybe I'll get lucky and the kid will be his"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:25 AM
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Not really an issue. Immigration (both legal and illegal) would counterbalance that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:22 AM
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It's cute you think they would have any assets to withhold if they are in such need they have to get on child support in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:20 AM
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Because this is a hole in your empathy. You are making it all about you, and you are not seeing it from his POV. You know for a fact, with undeniable proof the kid is yours. The kid popped out of you. However, without a test, he does not have 100% undeniable proof the kid is his. Someone with a strong sense of empathy would think "this is such a small thing that I can do for my partner, and put any doubts out of his mind, because I know I didn't cheat and this is his kid, but he won't be 100% su…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:16 AM
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She is not getting tested at all. If he was so hung up about her ethnicity, he would have had her do an ancestry test long before it got to the stage of having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:12 AM
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Start by explaining to women overall how it affects men. The stereotype is that women are the more empathetic gender, right? If that were the case, then testing would be a given to them. "Look, I know this kid is mine. It popped out of me. That is my proof. My SO/BF/Husband does not have undeniable proof that the kid is his, unless we get this test. This test is inexpensive, and is practically no burden for me to go thru with. I love this man, and it is the least I could do to prove to him with …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:08 AM
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A whopping $100. You better not look at the overall cost of giving birth, then. Or the cost of raising a kid for 18+ years. And get this. This is an area where a competitive market could do it's thing. Company A charges $150? Well this company has an incentive to try and get their prices lower, and get their prices lower. Maybe $100. Company C could also try and outbid them by trying to get the price to $75 by selling their tests in bulk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 05:02 AM
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I think a lot of people just cant over the fact that the past is the past, and thats that. Baby, I know that I took my previous GFs on expensive trips, and bought them expensive gifts, but I hated every minute of those trips and all of the shopping. I'm so glad you understand why I don't take you out to Paris like I did with them, and buy those really expensive clothes you have been eyeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 04:55 AM
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I've never seen that. I've always seen "I found this sex tape with my SO in it, where she is doing all this sexual stuff with other men, but refused to do it with me when I asked her months ago. And in the video, she seemed to be enjoying it". They try and explain that away with "I didn't really enjoy it at the time, and that is how I found out I didn't like it, which is why I don't do it with you". So was she lying then, or was she lying now? The only thing that makes sense is TRP is right. She…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 04:49 AM
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It's not that men are no longer interested in human interaction, it is that they are no longer interested in interactions with women. It is becoming more and more risky, and men are getting less and less out of it, and overall they are getting treated worse and worse. Let's start with getting more and more risky. It is becoming harder and harder for men to protect themselves from false accusations of sexual assault. Amber Heard and Depp, Mattress Girl, A case where a college student almost serve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:32 PM
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And men haven't stopped getting involved with women because of porn, either. I really doubt there will be much of a change in the SMP if sex dolls became mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:44 PM
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Only the men who need female validation will "need to get laid" The others will be fine with sex dolls. People who will shame won't know for a fact, but they will assume it is true and use it as an insult. Just like people will throw out "virgin gamer" even if they don't know for sure if the guy is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:19 PM
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Yet there was a survey done that had a lot of women not being cool with (in fact, become jealous) of their man having a sex doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:09 PM
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Yet there was a survey done not too long ago where men overestimated how cool their gf/wives would be if they had a sex doll (which is a sex toy), compared to how many women would really be ok with their man having a sex doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:08 PM
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You might be surprised. There is a good chance you do already know someone who has one. It just hasn't come up in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 08:05 PM
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So what difference between a sex doll to a sex bot would make women love the sex bot, but not the sex doll?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:17 PM
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For some reasson men just don't care that much about human interaction. Oh, I can give you a TON of reasons. You, and a lot of reddit, won't like the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:15 PM
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Holy shit! over 3700 "marriage" certificates from the company who created Hatsune Miku? I thought it was only a small handful of men who were like "I'm married to my anime waifu". But shit, if they are happy, then go for it. I don't think those OnlyFans and Twitch streamers will take as big of a hit as many predict. I mean, there is a shit ton of free porn that shows a hell of a lot more skin than Twitch streamers, yet they still choose to give them money. People still pay for the premium porn h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:12 PM
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The owner of a sex doll business says his clientele are almost exclusively male. He has only a handful of female customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:05 PM
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The owner of a business that sells sex dolls has done a couple of interviews on a youtube channel I watch, and he has gone into this. Yes, he does have a few sex dolls that the previous owners ask for him to resell. He says he does his best to make sure they are medically sterile. When people turn their noses up at used sex dolls, his reply "Well, your wife or GF was a virgin when you met her, then? My doll has 1 or 2 previous owners. How many men has she been with over the years?" And there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:02 PM
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I think it will be treated like porn. It's something that most people don't admit (or even deny) consuming, but at night, incognito mode opens up and the credit card comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:55 PM
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The fact that virgin shaming tends to be thrown more at men than women, there is some truth to that. But not all the time. I would say at least half the time, men having sex is just about busting a nut
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:50 PM
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Seems like projection. Pretty much the majority of people in my life, non of them are millionaires, but are still pretty happy. They would enjoy having millions, of course, but they certainly aren't unhappy because they don't have millions in the bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:44 PM
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I doubt it. It will be treated like porn. Most people deny looking at it, but somehow there is still a huge market for it. It won't ever become socially acceptable, but it will just be something that many people have on the DL.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:42 PM
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Porn is still considered "taboo" in many societies, even here in the states. Sex bots will be, at best, treated like poor. People will deny looking at it (or owning one), while they open that incognito tab and entering in their credit card number. So if you consider porn "mainstream", then yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:41 PM
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I haven't heard complaints from men who shell out the big bucks for sex dolls, so I don't think that men would be all that disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:33 PM
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Not necessarily. Power over a young woman means a lot more than power over an old lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:31 PM
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I don't think so. I think a vocal part of society will view people who own these bots as losers who "can't get a real woman" and will continue to shame men who forgo dating women and stick with the bots. People still shame men if a man admits that he has a fleshlight, even thou they sell like crazy, and sex shops are still flourishing. Hell, there are men who get shamed if they go to a prostitute (oh he has to pay to have sex because the only way a woman would even deal with him is if she was ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 06:24 PM
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It depends on who their primary consumer market is. If there are more women than men getting the 23 and Me tests because they are interested in their ancestry, then it might not be a good marketing move to point out "Here is a down low way to maybe find out if the kid is really your's, men"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:24 PM
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All the blame is with her. She is the one cheating, and the one passing off the kid as the other guy's. If she didn't willingly cheat with the chad, then she wouldn't have his baby. This excludes rape of course, but then bring that shit up right away, with the man she is actually seeing, not the rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 05:00 PM
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Or even, EVEN, better, disregard females, acquire currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 04:43 PM
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Shit. There are cases where if you payed up while the test was being waited on, that would put you on the hook for child support since you "acted in the place of the father". I think it would have been better to just throw all of that money into a savings account. If the courts ruled you didn't have to pay child support, then that money is still yours, and gained interest. If they did come back, and did require back child support, then you had it at the ready. But I'm not a lawyer. And I am maki…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 04:37 PM
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This is what I point to when people try and say that women on the whole are more empathetic. Bullshit. If women were more empathetic than men, they would have zero issue if a man asked her for a test. it never enters into their mind "i know for a fact that this kid is mine, as there is clear evidence of it (I'm the one giving birth). He can only be 100% sure that the kid is his if we do this test. This test takes almost no effort on my part. It's such a small thing I can do that will put his min…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 04:22 PM
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Porn has existed since man learned how to draw on cave walls. Some of the earliest motion pictures were peep shows. And young people have been able to find ways to access this before they themselves started having sex. Porn is just the easy excuse. We can't admit that young men might have it harder than women in any aspect of life. Because if we do, that means women aren't 100% victims in all aspects in their lives. As I write this, I can see the replies now that will try to deflect, dismiss, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:01 PM
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because the reality is lots of these guys who think they are unattractive to women or ugly are ALOT BETTER than they think. Do you have examples? At least in terms of OLD, this doesn't seem to be the case. Most women have dick thrown at them, and the OKCupid study shows that at least on OLD, women are much, much harsher in their judgement of attractiveness of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:19 PM
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People have different views on sex. Some people view sex as just something fun that consenting adults do. Other people view it as something that is very, very, meaningful to them, and they only want to share it with someone who they are very close with. Someone might read a book and think it is a profound piece of literature, while others read it and think it is pretentious garbage. (I'm like this with The Cather in the Rye. I couldn't make it past the first paragraph. Other people love it).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:12 AM
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Isn't there a happy medium here? How about just waiting until you are both very serious in the relationship (like close to engagement serious) Typically, people date for a decent amount of time before they get engaged (yea, not always the case, but normally, there is some time investment, and not just 3 months). Then when you both are really serious, you two can get busy, and if if doesn't work out sexually, then there is no worry about a divorce. Waiting until both of you are really considering…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:00 AM
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Citation needed. One of the most common complaints men have about OLD is that they have to cast a wide net (do the primary contact) and HOPE she responds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 12:38 AM
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Women don't expect the right man to come along. They look for the right man, but if their efforts don't work, what are they supposed to do? Hook up with just anyone? How does this work, when men do the vast majority of asking? It's like saying "I'm looking for the right job, but I'm not actively looking at want ads or putting my resume out there. I'm waiting for the right job to ask me to work for them"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:42 PM
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That sounds absolutely miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 12:30 PM
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No, you didn't. You said "Very few men rape. Very few women hurl false accusations" I gave you an example of something that rarely happens to people (getting hit by lightning), and instead of arguing against that (that people do take precautions against rare occurrences all the time). You then do what everyone else who argues about the Pence Rule does. You jump to "Well you must not deal with women at all!" Please tell me, where am I missing "self reflection"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:04 PM
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Care to actually contribute to the conversation? Like address my points?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:52 AM
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Not what I said. Reread what I wrote. I know it's hard, but use some critical thinking. I'll help you out here. You said "Very few women ever hurl false accusations". I responded "Very few people get hit by lightning" The point is, even if it is rare, you can and do take precautions to protect yourself from being hit by lightning, right? Even if it is rare, I am protecting myself from false accusations, but not being alone with women. Why do so many people have a hard time understanding the "not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 11:04 PM
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Very few people get hit by lightning. That still doesn't mean I'm going to travel outside if there is thunder close by.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 12:46 PM
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I've been seeing too many cases, either in the court of law, or more commonly, the court of public opinion, where the guy gets completely skinned alive. Fired, socially outcast, all on word from a woman. If he tries to defend himself, he is told to just sit there and take it because #believeallwomen I'm following a court case right now where a voice actor had to sue his former employer and people who he thought were his good friends, because they accused him of "sexual misconduct" from years ago…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:44 AM
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It's about not being alone with a woman without someone else present. I still work with women. It is either all done online (which is preferred, because that is hard evidence that I am professional in my messages). Otherwise, if I have to talk with them in person, it is in a public place with cameras and other people in the immediate area where they can easily overhear what is said. I would say it depends if a woman treats men poorly because of her suspicion is what would make it wrong. Just not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:57 PM
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You didn't answer before, but you answered this time. Thank you. This is consistent, which is what I am looking for. There are lots of people on reddit who have trouble staying consistent on this. "You can't judge all black people based on a horrible experience with one!" "It's easy for men to rape women, so I will view all men as potential rapists!"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 09:44 PM
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I would love to see a study on criticism and how the genders handle it on average. I think it could be tested. Give them an essay to write. Then give them criticism on the essay. Then have them fill out surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 08:26 PM
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omen usually are in this place and they got told off that they are neurotic for taking care not to get raped I don't know where you see this, but I don't. I see men telling women that they should take precautions to avoid being raped. there is a difference between "protect yourself from being potentially raped" and "I have to protect myself because all men are rapist" I see people getting onto women for trying to say all men are rapists, but not for protecting themselves. Protecting yourself doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 08:07 PM
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You didn't answer the question. If a white guy is jumped by black men, is it racist for him to be wary around black men? If the answer is yes, why is that different than a woman being wary around men because she might be sexually assaulted by them?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:50 PM
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There is a whole movement that is out there who's goal is stopping slut shaming. This is seen as a positive good by most people. The only moment that is out there that is trying to stick up for men who are trying to respectfully ask women out on dates and being shamed for the failure, and this movement (MRA), is seen by a lot of people as a negative. Yes, men are being socially ostracized for asking someone out if he is seen by her as "creepy", which could be as simple as she thinks he "looks" c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:38 PM
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The point is that it is anecdotal. You are trying to use anecdotes to prove your point. Using your logic, if a white guy was jumped by black men, would he be racist if from that point on, was wary of black men as much as women are wary of men (in your words)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:01 PM
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Physical wounds tend to heal. It will hurt like hell when it happens, and the year of physical therapy will be killer, but it is still temporary. If you are falsely accused of sexual misconduct, and that will stay with you for as long as you live. you will never be able to escape it. Just going through the court system will take a lot longer than it would for you to heal over a stabbing. Same with child support. (18+ years) Plus the fact is, if you get shot or stabbed, the majority of people won…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:59 PM
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This is a similar reason I follow the Pence Rule. I know that if I am alone with a women, even if I will be completely professional with her, years from now, she can falsely accuse me of sexual misconduct. Even if I can prove in court that nothing happened, my life will still be ruined. I literally had people on Reddit tell me I must be a secret abuser, or that I am paranoid and hate women because I express that I follow the Pence Rule. I make it clear that no, not everyone woman, hell, a good p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:28 PM
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Interesting on how you can say this, and get very little blow back. Yet I follow the Pence Rule because I don't know that this particular woman might falsely accuse me of rape years from now, and somehow I am the sexist. Understand how the courts are right now, where more and more women are falsely accusing men of abuse, and the guys are getting their lives ruined, even when it is proven that he is completely innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:09 PM
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It is their problem to address their issues. If you just take away the supply (be it fake sexual attraction, heroin, ect) you are only addressing the symptoms, not the cause. They have to want to get better on their own. If they don't make their own resolve, then they will just fall right back into it without a second thought. If you force your will upon them "for their own good", you are taking any potential empowerment away from them. Let's be honest, the guys who are giving so much money to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 07:30 PM
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How often does this topic come up? "Bro, you ain't simpin', right?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 06:23 PM
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I'm afraid to ask. Law? Law of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 06:18 PM
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Women tend to have a stronger in group bias. (this is why media is mostly dumb/inept husband, and the smart, strong woman coming in and saving the day. Men don't care who is the butt of the joke, but women do) Do we have any evidence that the women who are saying they would be outraged, are the same ones that are treating short men like shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 09:03 PM
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Let me introduce you to the insult "manlet" Short men do get shit for being short, but I will argue not nearly as much as incels try to say they do. I know on OLD there are a lot of women who might have a "requirement" that he be over 6 ft, but having had a lot of female friends over the years, none of them talked about a guy's height.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 09:01 PM
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Right? I'm in the same boat as you. They have to be pulling this directly out of their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 08:51 PM
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Sorry, I'm tired, but I forgot to add this, and I try to avoid editing my comments. Thank you very much for the compliments. The people in your life are lucky to have someone who is freely giving of compliments, even to an online stranger. If we could get more people to take your mindset, perhaps there would be fewer angry, noisy people online. There will still be some, because some people just have that kind of personality, but reducing the number of people who feel like they need to be noisy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:48 AM
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I'm actually quite dumb at times (read: most of the time). I do try and allow logic to take priority over emotion, but I, and we, are only human, and emotions should be taken into account. It is very easy to fall into the anger and condescension that you mention. It takes a lot of effort for many people to not be angry, and fall into "the grass is always greener" mindset. But the lack of compliments doesn't get to me. I only brought it up because it was relevant to the conversation. It mostly do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:34 AM
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Keep denying reality. I have zero interest in hookup culture or dating. I do enjoy observing it and hearing different perspectives on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:16 AM
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Not nearly as much as these women. And men typically handle this shit without expectation of the new woman in their life to cover up for it. And those older men who have baggage, the younger women will avoid, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:19 PM
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And they don't want women their age. They tend to have "baggage" for lack of a better word. Divorced, single mothers, not as attractive as a 22 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:44 PM
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I've heard so many stories from people like the person you are responding to have very similar stories. I am also heard from lawyers who have practiced family law and dealt with this directly, same the same stuff (the men will get taken for a ride). I have also seen it directly affect family members in my life, who have been fucked over in divorce court. There are stories of amicable divorces, but the amount of times where the man comes out ahead are so incredibly rare (the only one I can think …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:42 PM
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Oh, I completely understand, which is why I tried to do into a little bit of detail on my everyday dress. I don't take any offence to you being skeptical on what I or another poster on here would determine what dressing properly means. I'm not "well dressed" but I'm not a slob. A side note, the majority of my shirts are plain. I do have a couple shirts with "Marvel" or "Fender" on them, but they are few, and I rarely wear those. It's typically a dark colored shirt underneath a buttoned short sle…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 08:25 PM
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Again, ask men here on Reddit, and you will find that it is very, very common for men not to get compliments from women. I don't live in an area that is hostile. There is a professional pleasantness and courtesy. It's uncommon to hear strangers yelling at each other. So it's not like its an area where everyone hate each other which would explain why compliments are so few.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:27 PM
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It's not just where I live. You'll find out that the only part of my experience that is rare is that I actually have received more than one compliment in the past 10 years. The part in between the compliments were I receive none is the status quo for the majority of guys. I remember these times. because they are so rare. As for my circle on why it's so rare, its because I just have made it a habit to not comment on anyone's appearance, either positively or negatively. It's too easy for someone t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:08 PM
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I tend to look decent the majority of the time I'm around other people. Only my close, close family sees me in a worn t-shirt and shorts. The only exception is the one or two times I had to run to the hardware store because I needed something and was in the middle of a project. I'm almost always wearing a clean undershirt, short sleeve button up shirt, and nice (no stains, not freyed) khakis. Sometimes with glasses, sometimes with contacts. Or a lot of times I'll be out and about after work (off…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 11:55 AM
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Lesbian relationships have the highest levels of domestic violence. Gay men have the lowest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 08:48 PM
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Interesting take. My perception is not that incels are everywhere. What I see is that people who are against MRAs/MGTOWs throw the incel label onto them, regardless if it applies. A lot of MGTOWs/MRAs have been through the divorce system and say "Never again". Many incels haven't even had a relationship to speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 07:15 PM
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Your comment was inferring that they would go destitute and would be struggling to find decent work. My point is that they will be just fine. They will adapt and continue with their lives basically unchanged. I don't shit on the attorneys. They are working with what the system gives them. I will shit on the broken system that completely fucks over half the population, only because of their demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 06:33 PM
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I have been living alone for several years, and at this point, the idea of living with someone else is the most unappealing prospect you could give me. I have been independent for so many years, and it is so freeing. The only people I have to answer to is the government, and my supervisors at work. I don't have to come home and have to have a discussion about "Who's turn is it to do the dishes" or "Why didn't this thing get done?", or have to worry about staying locked in a room because my roomm…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 06:29 PM
1

Only richs will marry and have tradicional families to past wealth from a generation to the next, so wealth will start to acumulate in the higher social espheres even more The big problem with that thou is that generational wealth only lasts 2-3 generations. by the end of the third, its all gone. Rockafeller's wealth died out a long time ago. Anderson Cooper I believe is currently the last in line from the Vanderbilt family, and he got jack in terms of inherited money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 06:21 PM
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The lack of self awareness is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 06:13 PM
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No. They will just focus on different kinds of cases. Criminal defense, personal injury, immigration. There are a lot of other fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 06:11 PM
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A big thing you are missing about TRP and them advocating for living a minimalist lifestyle is because of taxes. They see that the more money they make, the more taxes they pay, and they see those taxes going toward funding women's lifestyles (single mothers are the biggest receivers of welfare I believe). So they see it as "the less you make, the less the government can collect from you, and the less that your money will go to funding welfare". Personally, I'm not going to let taxes prevent me …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 05:58 PM
2

This is me. I work hard and I want to make as much money as possible. I have zero interest in dating, or using wealth to attract a woman. I do this because I want to set myself up for success when I get ready to retire. I want to get my house paid off, and if I get a good 401k, then I'll only have to worry about property taxes instead of rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 05:44 PM
1

In the past 6 years, I have been complimented twice on my appearance by women. I would be very, very interested in seeing if women remember how many times they have been complimented in public in that time frame, and how much detail they remember it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 05:06 PM
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How has common law receded? How has common law gotten weaker over the years, and not more broadly interpreted? Of course the state has an interest in extending it. Women are far more likely to go on welfare. If they were a couple, and they split, it is in the government's interest to get the man in the relationship to continue to support her. Child support even more so, because if the government has to enforce child support payouts, they get a cut from what is collected. So if she is awarded $2k…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 11:20 PM
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You are missing an important point. That is where I predict it will get to. Right now common law isn't in every state. As time goes on, it will get more and more restrictive as men start opting out of dating all togther. You missed context where I list some requirements (even thou they never lived together or presented themselves anything other than just friends) I'm saying that they will extend the definition of common law and start applying it when it should not apply. That is the whole point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 10:29 PM
1

There are consequences. When they get older, less and less of these chads will want to fuck them. Then these women will want to "settle down" and get married, but very few men will want to marry them by that point, certainly not their first choice of who they want to marry. The more sexual partners she has before marriage, the more likely the marriage will end in divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:06 PM
1

So, become a pimp? Unless you are talking about sex bot brothels. They tried to open one in Huston, but it didn't take off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 05:52 AM
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"Become worthy of women" Fuck that. How egotistical do you have to be to think that others must become "worthy" of you, when you expect them to sacrifice constantly for their benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 05:42 AM
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Not for women. Do it for themselves. And when the women start giving you attention that you didn't get before, remember how it was before. Don't fall into the trap now that they want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 04:43 AM
2

OP just substitutes a woman having a man in her life for daddy government. Protection? Call the cops. Financial. Women have the highest level of poverty, especially in retirement age. They are the highest receivers of welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:52 AM
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I disagree with some of what MGTOW has to say, but there is one saying of their's i think is spot on. "We don't recruit, we just wait for men to arrive" Your last line makes me think of that. MGTOW aren't recruiting more men into their line of thinking, women are driving more men to MGTOW. I think the next step will be women starting to accuse these chads of sexual misconduct when these chads don't commit, and all these other men start going MGTOW monk. Chads will start going monk mode as well (…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:42 AM
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Men are always blamed. Man isn't in the top 20%? "You need to do better!" divorce rapes him/falsely accuses him of rape/force alimony Man says "fuck it. I'm only going to work hard enough to keep myself fed, a roof over my head, and will spend the rest of my free time playing vidya". Women "Why are there so many loser man babies! Men are why women are only going after the top 20%!" Men bring this up. Women "IT IS NOT WOMEN'S RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU! IF YOU WERE BETTER, MAYBE WE WOULD…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:34 AM
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The problem is, only the deeply involved incels are making the statement that women owe them sex. OP is making a strawmen from all rational people who aren't completely "yea, you go girl! Suck all the dick and fuck all of the chads!". Most men are saying "No one is forcing you to only have sex with men who you are not attracted to. However, there are consequences to only fucking chads when you are younger." We are giving them a heads up, but women like OP don't want to hear that, so they make up…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:54 AM
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However, women feeling entitled to men's support, enforced by laws is a much bigger threat than a few edge lords on a forum. True facts. And it's going to get worse before it gets any better. I know MGTOWs joke about how "they will pass laws so that not having sex with women is rape", and I don't think it will get that far. I do see a possibility of this happening. Dude is interested in a girl, and becomes friends with her. He helps her out once in awhile financially when she can't pay bills, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:25 AM
2

It is amazing to me that these women who you are talking about, have the gall to try and shame men who see that she is in her mid 30s and a single parent, and thinks "nah fam. I'm good", or even if she isn't a single parent, "If you can't handle my sexual past, you aren't a real man!" Slowly men are waking up to this fact. I do have some significant issues with MGTOW, but one phrase that does ring true "We don't recruit, we just wait for new MGTOW to arrive". I am very fortunate that I don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:11 AM
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If you want to cut single mothers welfare, you have to enforce deadbeat fathers paying child support. How is the government not doing this? Hell, even if the man is not biologically the father, if he "acted like a father", then he runs the very real risk of being on the hook of child support. If it comes to light later that he thought the kid was his and it is not, too bad, he still has to pay. f you want paper abortion, make actual abortion and birth control widely available and accessible. Abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:05 AM
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You hit the nail on the head. To expand upon this. The consequences being The more men you sleep with, the more men you cut out of your potential LTR list The more men you sleep with, the more of a chance that the men you come in contact with will see you just as a fling Condoms and birth control aren't 100% effective 100% of the time. There is still a slight risk to getting STIs or unwanted pregnancy Then you will be on Tinder when you are 35, asking "Are there any good men left out there?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:45 AM
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Am I supposed to believe that men do not like having extra money to spend on nice houses, expensive cars/boats etc, hobbies etc? The reward for being over productive is money and last time I checked both single and married men like money. Forever bachelors don't suddenly live in cardboard boxes and stop caring about life. Do you genuinely believe only thing driving men to be ambitious is the promise of sex and maybe a wife? Seems like bit of a stretch. Yes, because it is the truth. Many, many me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:36 AM
1

Shit there is a lot of truth in that guide. Where did you get that?
/r/MGTOW16/07/15 05:13 AM
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I really don't think I am. I do not lurk in TRP or any other PUA areas. I lurk in MensRights and here, and watch the videos and read comments posted here. That was just the most recent example.
/r/MGTOW12/06/15 03:19 PM
1

I want to thank those of you who addressed the post. You gave me some things to think about, which was one of the points of this post.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 06:00 PM
1

Enlighten me. What leads you to believe that?
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 03:25 AM
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You do not have to believe me, but I am not a troll. I have not edited any of my comments including the OP in this thread (thankfully anyone can see if a post or comment has been modified), and I see no reason to at this time. Feel free to keep me honest. Anyone can take screenshots if they feel the need to.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 03:07 AM
1

I kind of see what you mean, but I don't know if I agree with it. I am currently dealing with a traditionalist male relative that only talks about "A man is supposed to provide for his family" (focusing on the "wife" part of family), but he never seems to talk about what a woman is "supposed" to do in that traditional setting. I'm guessing he knows that women around him would not stand for that, one bit. I'm hesitant to bring up my views on relationships (I personally avoid contact with women wh…
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:59 AM
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What would be your guesses on why someone could not find this thread if not deleted? It's your own choice if you want to stay celibate or if you want to throw your hat in the ring. As long as you are happy and not harming anyone, more power to you.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:23 AM
1

Hypocrisy is one thing that just gets on my nerves. That's why the hypocrisy and purposelessly being obtuse in politics gets my rage going.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:15 AM
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Not sure what you mean? That it will be deleted, or just ignored?
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:05 AM
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I don't think I am being clear. My problem is not that people have multiple sexual partners, my problem is when someone sleeps around, yet criticizes the opposite gender for doing the same. Sleep with as many women you want, I couldn't care less. It does not effect me, but don't turn around and condemn a women if she does the same. The hypocrisy bothers me, not the sex.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 02:01 AM
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The problem is the hypocrisy in it. Saying that it is bad if a woman sleeps around, yet that same guy sleeps around with a lot of women. If you as a guy sleep around with multiple women, then don't condemn women if they sleep with a bunch of guys.
/r/MGTOW11/06/15 01:43 AM
2

Another, more recent movie that has a scene of woman on man rape is Super with Rainn Wilson and Ellen Page. It's not entirely played for laughs, but it is a scene that happens, and isn't talked about for the rest of the movie, or by anyone else it seems.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 07:11 PM
1

I don't think this is a good analogy. Just because there is a "discount" or "credit" for something, doesn't mean that if you do not qualify for said discount means you are being penalized. If there is a coupon for XYZ pizza, and I do not use said coupon, am I being penalized? No, I am just not getting the discount that the coupon would give me if I had used it. Am I paying more because I did not have the coupon? Yes. Am I being penalized? No.
/r/MGTOW16/02/15 03:47 AM
1

Do you have sauce on the women rating app that was taken down?
/r/MensRights11/01/14 07:12 AM
1

I don't think so, based on the newscasters last few comments about how she should be tried as a Filipino woman.
/r/MensRights11/01/14 07:07 AM
1

My body, my choice!
/r/MensRights09/01/14 02:12 AM
1

Do you have a link to your stats? I've heard some people say "Men are charged more because they drive more, thus have more 'chances' to get into an accident.". Also, when a male/female couple are out on the town, isn't normally the male that is driving? Please deliver me some yummy sauce.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 02:37 AM
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Why do you believe that women should have no rights? /s
/r/MensRights13/11/13 05:08 AM
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Get out of here with your......logic. /s
/r/MensRights07/09/13 02:25 AM
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First rule - Be attractive Second rule - Don't be unattractive.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 01:46 AM
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Insurance companies do in fact have stats proving that it costs more to insure a male verses a female driver. Think about this. When you have a man/woman couple who is ridding together, who typically drives? When the driving conditions are poor, who typically drives? On average, men tend to have a higher exposure of being involved in an accident.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 12:46 AM
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Let's see Assault (pushing into water) Intentional damage of property (thrown bag into water) Yea, I think she should be charged with assault and be forced to pay for the damaged property.
/r/MGTOW20/05/13 05:35 AM
1

He may get laughed at by the cops, but at least he tried. If he reports it, then another guy reports a similar situation, and then another....cops will HAVE to take an interest and realize that this is becoming an issue. OP, file a police report. Filing a report before she does should help your case if she does try and file a rape claim against you.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:25 AM
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As devil's advocate I have a few comments Getting wasted is an intentional act, so the metaphor doesn't fit Thou it may be good advice not to be alone with a child, there may be situations where it is unavoidable. Both issues need to be addressed.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:18 AM
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Read an interesting comment in the link And then she accuses him of rape
/r/MensRights16/05/13 02:07 AM
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I know people in the auto insurance business. Yes, the stats do justify charging women less for auto insurance. Think about this... When a man and women are in one car together, which gender is typically driving? When the driving conditions are bad, then who typically drives? Taking that logic, it stands to reason that the male would statistically drive more, and thus has a higher exposure to having an accident.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:26 AM
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Health insurance and car insurance are quite different. Health insurance is 1st party insurance, auto insurance in most of the US is 3rd party insurance.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:21 AM
1

The Prison and Judicial system being viewed as a form of punishment is also childish. If only more people thought this way. Prison isn't about punishment, it's about rehab.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 01:25 AM
1

The difference is that if this article was posted, but it was a man cheating, the publisher would make a point to point out how horrible the cheating scumbag is. But then again, I doubt an article about the tale of a guy cheating with an ending like this one wouldn't get published in the first place.
/r/MensRights03/05/13 04:22 AM
2

Although I would prefer that 100% false rape claims should be punished, I would be hesitant to implement it. There is a strong possibility that accusers who have "come clean" and admitted that they lied about the rape, may not have done so if they knew they would be punished. I am more concerned with keeping innocent people out of prison. Although I understand this is not going to fix the problem of preventing false accusations from occurring in the first place. "Better to let 10 guilty go free …
/r/MensRights03/05/13 03:59 AM
2

Well, I can see how that could backfire. "Well, my husband paid the bills. I have become dependent on him paying the bills, therefore I need enough alimony to pay all my bills. And now since we are divorcing, I need him to pay me more to cover those bills as well."
/r/MensRights01/05/13 12:30 AM
3

Hear hear. As soon as I mention "Mens' rights" I automatically get laughed at. Very very few of those people that laughed, took the time to acutally listen to what I meant by it.
/r/MensRights30/04/13 05:07 AM
2

"BUT, let’s switch it up. How about we find every PERSON who hits their partner in a marriage or relationship, and we drag them ALL behind barns and shoot them in the face? ALL of them. Do you think there would be more women or more men left in the world after that?"
/r/MensRights29/04/13 05:20 AM
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That last line, that sums up a lot of my thought process. I tend to play "devil's advocate" for lots of different topics, ranging from the mundane to the controversial. I don't usually agree with the opposing view that I bring, but I do it to show that I can understand the other sides' logic.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 04:51 AM
5

Oh man, they cut out the best part. [Looks in the mirror] "WHY CAN'T I STOP OPPRESSING PEOPLE!?"
/r/MensRights29/04/13 04:31 AM
1

I would love to read your view on how differently you were treated as a female MRA as compared to a male MRA.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 03:43 AM
1

And those jokes are just as lame and unfunny as this article. Point?
/r/MensRights27/04/13 04:36 AM
1

Anyone notice how she never answered the question of "would you be pissed if you found out your husband was cheating on you?" She passed it off as "oh he would never do that"
/r/MensRights27/04/13 03:35 AM
5

I used to read this comic. I now love it even more.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 05:01 AM
2

I don't think this is localized to just women. How many of us get more pissed if someone keeps telling us to calm down? Isn't this article sexist in focusing on just women, insinuating that only women find the phrase "Calm Down" irritating?
/r/MensRights11/04/13 02:36 AM
2

I try and make an honest effort to avoid personal insults overall. I may sometimes fail at that, but I at least try not to resort to name calling.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:09 PM
1

Hell, just look at Webster's definition of sexism. They felt like they had to add "especially against women" in their definition.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 05:19 AM
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Agreed. Pretty messed up. Kinda mixes the message of MRAs wanting gender equality when they throw around gender specific insults. Come on MRAs, please do not allow ourselves to be lowered to the point of name calling.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 05:09 AM
1

How is gender related to being a supreme court justice? It's pretty idiotic to say "You can't have this job if you don't have a dick".
/r/MensRights07/04/13 10:32 PM
1

Why not the 9 most qualified people, regardless of their gender?
/r/MensRights06/04/13 08:42 PM
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www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexism Webster still has work to do (ex, especially: discrimination against women)
/r/MensRights06/04/13 07:58 PM
3

Yep. Good old US of A. I remember listening to the commentator on the radio. "Gentlemen, we have to stop 'leaving the keys in the ignition' so to speak". http://www.khou.com/news/local/Sperm-Donation-Goes-To-Ex-Girlfriend-Man-Sues-193881451.html
/r/MensRights28/03/13 01:00 PM
2

Nice strawman. /s Read my comment again. Judges should look at each situation instead of just automatically awarding child support to the mother. If the mother has a history of stealing/lying, the judge needs to take that into consideration. If she stole from the person who is supposed to pay child support, either take the amount stolen out of the amount awarded, or have her pay all of it back to the father, and the father pay the normal amount of child support. If the father is required to pay …
/r/MensRights28/03/13 04:49 AM
2

Acutally, you aren't in charge of who as access to your deposit at the sperm bank. There is a case going on right now. Crazy ex found her ex bf made a deposit, walked in, took the sperm, and impregnated herself with it. Right now, he is on the hook for child support.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 04:35 AM
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If she shows up a few months later saying she is pregnant again/didn't get the abortion, demand a paternity test. With all that has happened, it is a possibility that she might try and get pregnant by someone else, and claim it's yours.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 04:32 AM
2

Regardless if the guy pays or does not pay child support, I'll bet you the kids' basic needs would be taken care of. Charities to help "poor mothers with dead-beat ex-husbands" or welfare. Now, I do not endorse all child support being forced upon the state, but forcing every single father to pay child support without looking at each unique situation, I do not support either. Stealing from the payer of child support should make any judge look at that divorce/child support hearing with a fine toot…
/r/MensRights28/03/13 04:20 AM
1

The kids will most likely suffer anyhow. Do you honestly think that if OPs brother in law pays child support, the money will actually go to the kids? If someone is willing to forge checks, I doubt that they will use all the money towards the kids.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 03:34 AM
1

No one seems to be mentioning that there are several day-to-day items that cost more geared toward women (some hygiene products for example). Stuff like men forced to pay more for drinks irritates me, but its not completely one sided.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 05:01 AM
1

Same here. I could not get passed that line either. My rage almost broke.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 04:49 AM
3

/b/ is the random channel on 4chan. Not for the faint of heart.
/r/MensRights09/02/13 10:43 PM
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Wow. So your logic states that men are better then women at sports? How is that not sexist?
/r/MensRights05/02/13 04:01 AM
9

Apparently she was "trolling MR" http://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/16xahi/i_cheated_on_my_sweetheart_of_a_husband_for_3/c847bus
/r/MensRights27/01/13 03:05 AM
2

My god. Have you seen some of the comments. The top two that were posted by women can be summed up "Women already do this guys! Tee Hee!" No condemnation of these "tips". Personally, I get enraged when I see the genders flipped. "Men, this is how to get women in bed" and is more or less telling men to treat women like shit just to get laid. I take no part in that, and get outraged when I see it. It just perpetuates treating the other gender like crap. "See, men treat women like crap, so its time…
/r/MensRights20/01/13 05:05 AM
1

I think that the main point OP was trying to make is that these posters are insinuating that all men are potential rapists.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 02:56 AM
1

I doubt this would work because the radical feminists are currently spreading facts that are inherently wrong even when they have been proven incorrect
/r/MensRights19/01/13 06:28 AM
2

I agree that this is a much better way to bring stats up instead of gender swapping. With gender swapped stats, you run the risk that people will keep using the incorrect stats to point their incorrect stance on how one gender is worse off then the other.
/r/MensRights19/01/13 06:26 AM
2

Doubtful. How many lies are the radical feminists spreading right now? I think the MRM needs to focus on spreading truth, not lies to debunk later on.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 04:23 AM
4

Even if the story is less then legit, look at the top comment "This is one of the reasons why so many women don't come forward and report a genuine rape, on fear that people will think they are like her. Rape is a hard thing to convict someone of because at the end of the day many victims take a long time to come forward which hampers any medical evidence and it is their word against the rapists. Also nobody wants to convict someone innocent of rape, well except for this low life who is plain se…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 04:18 AM
0

I'm starting to come to that conclusion for myself, actually. Not sure all the BS is worth getting into a relationship. Or it could be that we haven't found the right person yet.
/r/MensRights17/01/13 05:52 AM
1

I would bet that if OP asked them "How is it different" the coworkers would state something to the effect of "Women wouldn't stab a loved one unless the loved one did something horrible untoward them" I'm torn between thinking "it's pointless to argue with people that refuse to think" and the thought "Well if I don't at least attempt to make them think about an issue like this, they never will"
/r/MensRights11/01/13 03:47 AM
1

But the other question is, if it came down to it, and a man used self defense because a woman was attacking him, and she had the intention of doing sever bodily harm, and it went to court, how likely is it that he would be found not guilty of assault?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 05:58 AM
3

That sounds good in theory, but then the guy has the reputation of "he only wanted to get into my pants". If he becomes hostile toward her, and just an outright asshole to her, then yea, she has some data to back that up, but what if, after it has been determined that she is not interested in him, he just doesn't hang out with her as much, and doesn't buy things for her anymore, and she still claims he just wanted to get into her pants?
/r/MensRights25/11/12 07:54 AM
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