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I technically agree with this, but I think you're missing the forest for the trees: There's no reason to believe this is really all that common. It does happen, everyone has probably seen an example of it online with the visibility the 1% have today with social media, but that it's a large societal issue I've seen no proof. I'm open to it, but I haven't been presented with any.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:43 PM
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No. I'm saying in my experience dating is profoundly more complicated than a matter of resource benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:27 PM
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My analogy to try to quickly explain biological cost benefits was too much for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:26 PM
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Desiring what? Dating up? Sure, for people who value it. Car cry to suggest everyone does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:28 AM
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Yes. That's exactly my point. Not hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:16 AM
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Dating within your economic status is lateral.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:03 AM
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I think both sexes chose a partner they deem as their "best mate," that that's inherent, but what determines that heavily varies from person to person and culture to culture. Using myself as an example, I'd say there are two primary factors in which I develop an interest in a girl: looks, and what we'll call "intrigue." I'm not going to pretend I'm not on some level shallow. I like women who I find sexually attractive. But, that's extremely personal to me what I find attractive. I like softer, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:03 AM
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. . . What? My guy what bars are you going to? This is 100% anecdotal on my part, but as a 26 year old literal oldest zoomer you could possibly be (or youngest millennial, if you want to look at it that way) dad-aged/dad-looking men are all the rage with my general age demographic among women. By no means is this universal, but this is the generation that is most likely to have spent their teenage years dutifully running a Tumblr page making romantic edits of Mads Mikkelsen, Lin Manuel Miranda, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:30 AM
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Um, well, that's what I'm trying to describe in my post. The basis of hypergamy being rooted in human psychology makes less sense once you consider that vague hypergamous behavior had more to do with physiological, social and political factors in the past when you look at it. It's Occam's Razor. "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras," is a common saying in the medical field. But A Billion Wicked Thoughts by Ogi Ogas and Sai Gaddam is a fantastic source for a lot of the psychology of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 01:05 AM
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Okay, doesn't that undermine your argument then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:49 AM
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Hypergamy as it's used today to describe the practice of women supposedly aiming to date above her own "value" socially, economically or in physical attractiveness. I've seen red pillers mostly suggest women date hypergamously for economic or aesthetic reasons or a combination of the two, and that it's inherent to the psychology of human beings. My argument is that the common cited rational as to why it's psychologically inherent is flawed, that people in general today typically date laterally b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:48 AM
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In my post I'm trying to make the argument humans have no reason to be "hard wired" to hypergamy because it was physiological factors that cause a kind of hypergamous-ish sort of behavior. Do you have any expertise or information on their being something psychologically hardwired in the human brain towards this behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:33 AM
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Is there an age limit to going to social gatherings or bars I don't know about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:27 AM
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This wasn't an argument against humans getting big smart, lol. I'm fine with that, just trying to explain how that dense brain matter changed our sexual dymorphysm and mating habits. Kind of interesting, right? I'm super into speculative evolution for like, sci-fi shit so I like to do lots of research about how certain traits affect a species. Interesting: that's actually why researchers hypothesize the female Giant Cuttlefish chose the male crossdressers, actually. Cephalopods, in general, are …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:24 AM
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It's not, really. I'm trying to address the primary argument of hypergamy as I understand it: being that it's rooted in evolutionary psychology. That there 's some kind of inherent mental quirk in women that makes them want the "alpha male." There isn't, is my argument. There were physiological challenges, then there was political needs motivated by those physiological challenges, and now we're in the modern day where they've all but vanished. You could argue that the cultural idea of hypergamy …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:13 AM
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I'm not sure how that fits with your assertion that woman are hypergamous when it comes to physical attractiveness unless you're trying to imply your niece is butt ugly. Also, like, kind of an inappropriate thing to bring up in this context, dude, but I'm just going to ignore that for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:04 AM
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Fair enough I guess. But I've had literally the opposite experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:04 PM
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Can you tell me specific jobs that were too physically demanding for women to do? Men do obviously have a lot more physical strength due to the higher levels of testosterone . . . But again, the more likely answer as to why many women didn't go certain kinds of labor (depending on thr culture) was because of that biological expense at them dying at anything other than childbirth pre-industral revolution. Off the top of my head the only general career catagory most women were almost universally e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:03 PM
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Which part is a hypothetical? The physiological challenges of human child birth? The monarchy? The industrial revolution? Those are just . . . Things that occurred my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:50 PM
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Evolutionary psychology isn't really regarded as all that useful of a field of study due to the unfalsifiable nature of the hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:47 PM
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What are you basing this off of?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:43 PM
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Okay, but, please can you give me a source or any kind of resource pointing towards it being biological? Something to Google? How do you know it's biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:39 PM
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All I can find is the research study on higher divorce rates in marriages where the woman earns more. Because equal earning and husband as the predominant breadwinner households have the same divorce rates, the research seems to suggest women are quicker to leave an unhappy marriage if they have the economic leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:33 PM
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This guy?: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Buss
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:25 PM
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So there is a lot of contention with that OkCupid study. People have kind of poked holes in it on several different levels, citing that even though women found 80% of men bellow average in attractiveness they were significantly more willing to go out with those supposed "unattractive men." There was some skullfuckery in the manner in which that data was collected as it wasn't a formal study and the inner workings of OkCupid's Metadata. Some people have even found different results while trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:23 PM
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The buisness owner?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:54 PM
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I mean, I'm just not certain this is really that common, though I believe you it happens sometimes. Social climbing is a thing men and women sometimes do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:53 PM
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I agree, I'm just . . . Picking this dude's brain here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:50 PM
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In my personal experience this does not hold true at all. I'm 5'3", trans, broke because of a three year battle with chronic illness (but getting out of being broke little by little) and I've had a, I'd say, reasonable dating life and active sex life. The woman I date all work in the same industry I do (im a commercial artist who does some gallery work and sells stuff), so they're going to be more on the alternative of lifestyle side of things, but like, to me that's just dating people with comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:49 PM
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Okay that's probably a much easier data point to verify (Maybe?) Do you have any studies? Resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:35 PM
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I agree. So . . . Hypergamy doesn't make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:33 PM
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Institution for Family Studies says 20% or men and 13% of women report engaging with infidelity. That is self-reported, but taking those numbers at their face value (which, you know, not an expert by any means but reading how the study collected that data I don't see why they would be far off from the truth) that's not really "all the time." If infidelity is to be taken as evidence for hypergamy, wouldn't those numbers suggest men are the ones looking for higher status partners? Is your argument…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:27 PM
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Can you back that up with a source or argument of some kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:10 PM
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Just ignoring the fact that a good portion of the population has accepted they'll like never own a single home, that's fair . . . But I don't see how hypergamy is a necessity in that instance. Wouldn't it make more sense that both parties would want their incomes to match so neither party is "dead weight" so to speak? Say even the social norm of men expecting they'll make more than their wives holds fast, wouldn't rich men at least only want to marry women with at least a valuable net worth? You…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:08 PM
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Do you have any examples of this that aren't anecdotal by chance? Because like, I wouldn't. With the car or a partner. The car because that's wasteful, the partner because "bigger, better, newer" is not the metric I choose a partner by. Do you have something that suggests at least a significant amount of the population thinks this way? This sounds like your personal bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:00 PM
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That's probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:19 PM
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A year and a half? Two years?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:09 PM
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I don't know, gender equality and unity in taking down the industrial complex that's destroying all our lives, and remains in power by tricking us to fight amongst ourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:37 PM
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In the TITLE my dude. Literally the first sentence of my post I'm elaborating. This is how human communication works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:35 PM
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I'm not new to this sub, I just only post here occasionally. The condescending part was implying that sex workers are such dumb helpless babies if they only knew they didn't have to turn tricks for money, they'd be saved. The fact that so many men don't respect women is exactly why the industry desperately needs to be legalized and regulated way more than others. Not all sex worker's are women, by the way. My great uncle died because he was murdered by a John in the 70s. One of thousands of dead…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:33 PM
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If you have a good and honest relationship with your kid, though it might be awkward they will be at begrudgingly willing to ask you questions about this kind of stuff. When your son gets to the age where he's likely to start googling this stuff (AND your daughter. Girls will do this stuff too. I know I might not be the best example as a trans guy but I was locking myself in my room googling "big boobs popping buttons" and deleting the browser history and I know a lot of my female friends were d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:24 PM
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All people deserve human dignity, which is why I'm not for turning anyone's private parts into a professional tool. There is no market need for that. Men - and let's be real, it's usually men - can get their own nut without risking public health. This is so condescending to sex workers. Believe it or not a lot of them actually like their job (when the government allows them to.) I went to art school and worked as a drag performer for a while, and a lot of cam and onlyfans girls work in my indust…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:35 PM
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I said this facetiously, even if it was illustrate a point. With all do respect, it's insane the kinds of things you have to put "/s" behind on this side else people take you deathly seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:15 PM
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It's not an exaggeration though, I said that in my post. It's just not nessesarily true for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:11 PM
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Actually I pretty heavily implied there's a failure to empathize on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:10 PM
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I agree, but like, I didn't really say anything that would imply otherwise did I?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:49 PM
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I actually don't agree with this. Maybe if you're in a monogamous relationship, but if you're just out there looking for a hookup, there's plenty of women dtf. And if you think literally "competing" for a particular woman's affection is how it works, you've already "lost" by your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:47 PM
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While I was still living as a woman yes. I got the most horny while I (presume) I was ovulating and right before my period. I was horny all the time back then too though. I don't ovulate anymore. Testosterone stops that from happening. I don't know my guy, I've never been a cis man abusing t. Some gym buddies I have have mentioned they used to do it and more than anything it made their hearts almost explode, so. I lived as a lesbian before I transitioned. I can only speak personally, that I neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:44 PM
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Boys end up emotionally stunted because of societal conditioning. A kid raised in a healthy environment regardless of gender isn't likely to end up an ass. I'm sorry but I'm not cool with people who blame sex work for the shitty behavior of some men. They are filling a need in a market and deserve respect like any other profession. You can use porn in a healthy way the same way you can in an unhealthy way. Like literally anything else. If a dude grows up believe women squirt milk from their titt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:34 PM
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Just so you know, that blue brain pink brain thing is a myth(sort of). Some brain structures of the brain are larger or smaller on average for men or women, none of the differences are so consistent or dramatic that scientists could like, sex a disembodied brain. Gender dysphoria comes from the internal map in your head of what you're supposed to be being off. Software issue, not a hardware issue. Personally, I was very consistently horny while I was a woman. That may have been due to a hormone …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:05 PM
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Huh that's . . . Well, good for him. Can't say a truck has ever done it for me, but yeah I see something in the wild that's vaguely in the wheelhouse of the kinds of things I'm into the rush of primal urge does come at you hard and fast. Though like, it's insane how much transitioning does affect your sexuality though. I don't think this is nessesarily just T related because trans women seem to go through the same thing (though t probably sends us straight into "go directly to horny jail, do not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:36 AM
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Are you saying that you are that smooth brained or that it's unnecessary for me to lampshade what I have to say against them? If it's the latter, you know how many times I've seen incels weaponize trans issues for their rhetoric? It's gross how often that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:18 AM
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No prob bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:15 AM
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No. My dude, ----->sensitivity issue<------ A penis has a lot of surface area where you can directly rub the nerve endings, a clitoris does not. The clit is actually a larger organ that's mostly inside the woman's body. The G spot is actually the same structure as her clit, but less nerve endings. So like, imagine to cum you could only have a smartie-sized surface area of the head of your penis and/or a small part of the underside of your shaft stimulated. If for whatever reason you had any redu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:09 AM
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Wouldn’t this also be a strong case for not putting all your sexual needs on 1 woman as a man? That's still putting the weight of your needs onto other people instead of taking care of yourself. I’m also going to point out that, you are a biological female who takes male androgens/hormones, still not the same as being born male. You had different social conditioning, your brain is different, you’ve developed and been through female puberty etc, so I’d say you’re still not having a fair 1 to 1 co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:58 PM
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"Compete for access?" Not only is what I think you're say incorrect, phrasing it that way has so many gross implications. Women are not an unlockable achievement bud. Nor a scarce resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:51 PM
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No bud they're socially conditioned to be like that. Dare I say a soft majority this doesn't even apply to. Read a Bell Hooks. It'll do ya good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:48 PM
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I don't understand what you mean by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:45 PM
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Yeah no shit it's a title my guy. It's there to inform what the post is about, but isn't exactly a good place to inject nuance. That's why you shouldn't just read the titled of articles either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:44 PM
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To cry? No. I cry about exactly as often as I cried before. Sounds like that person may be dehydrated--- which is possible, because t makes you real fucking sweaty. It's another night and day difference, how much I sweat now. I had to be either really working out or really hot to sweat at all before. If I absolutely had to I could go a day without showering and be fine if not at my freshest. If I forgot to put on deodorant, it wasn't the end of the world if I wasn't doing anything that could mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:29 PM
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I can. So can he. Testosterone doesn't turn you into a mindless animal and making excuses for or condemning men as if it does is part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:56 PM
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You say that like that wasn't what I was implying. I worded myself very carefully to make sure no smooth brained individual took this as confirmation he is blameless if he acts inappropriately on his lust. But yes, women don't seem to understand at times. I don't think I could have imagined it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:47 PM
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Um, yeah, it varies wildly from woman to woman, but I do remember I'd get hornier while I presume I was ovulating (I never tracked it) and right before I got my period. My cycle was never consistent due to unrelated health issues that are too complicated to explain. But like, I was always down to fuck personally. I dated exclusively women my whole life, and I always wanted sex more than they did it felt like. Not that they never, but like, I pretty consistently masturbated at least once a day. U…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:42 PM
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I didn't say there was. Really, pretty heavily implied jerking off is good there at the end. You know, "don't put the burden of your sexual needs entirely on your female partner." I'm not sure what else you could take away from that other than, "just take care of it yourself if she's not down, bro." If you were unaware that there's subsect of no nut men who take it so far they think finishing into anything that isn't a (hopefully) living breathing woman as loser behavior, there are. If you were …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:05 PM
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Sounds like you did take something away from it then. To be honest, I don't think that's exactly a logical take away though. My increased sex drive has not made me less socially competent. That part is absolutely social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:55 PM
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Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:51 PM
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Oh no I wholly agree. That's why I thought it might be a good idea to put this here. I started transitioning at 24, so like, I really did live as both long enough to give a solid comparison. I'm just devil's advocating here. Women dismiss a lot of these kinds of statements because, the degrees in which men can be wrong about female anatomy sticks in the brain. That doesn't justify it, but like, you see why right? It's weird how wrong even fucking male medical professionals can sometimes be. Fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:50 PM
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It's kind of hard to describe. It's kind of the difference between having a (mild to strong) craving for something and being in withdrawals to something you're addicted to. Being horny as a woman is like when you're drunk or high and think "God I'd kill for a burger right now." Being horny as a man is one or two steps below the nagging, consuming, incessant need for a fix of your poison of choice. I'm a recovered addict, so male horny is not as debilitating, but it's distracting and uncomfortabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:27 PM
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I mean to be fair, it's kind of dumbfounding how many men genuinely don't understand how female desire works. I don't want to believe it's most, and it probably isn't, but like you encounter depths of brain rot you didn't think were possible so it kind of feels that way sometimes. I had a dude in another sub refuse with his whole being to accept some women do need a vibrator in order to have an orgasm period. Physically cannot have one without it, regardless of how aroused she is. It's a sensiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:06 PM
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I don't totally disagree with this post, I don't think it's entirely fair to frame the subjugation of women are purely a historical nessesity. Humans have a very long gestational period and very problematic births relative to other mamals. Not to mention how absurdly long a human being takes to reach maturity comparatively. It's the biological cost of our big ol' brains. Female submission to an extent a historical nessesity because of that, but, if you push past the logical fallacy of economic p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/23 02:58 PM
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I'm not really sure my experience is comparable all that directly to a cis experience. Like, being a man is definitely easy for me, but most of the day-to-day reasons for that have entirely to do with not having to live with so much crushing gender dysphoria. I wasn't really great at being a "women" in the heteronormative traditional sense to begin with. In a weird way, I'd say I've been living as a man my whole adult life--- a more masculine gender role, anyway? I haven't even went by my birth …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:28 PM
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Okay, I'm trying to avoid giving grisly details about what what happened to me, but I can assure you . . . Like, knowing the proper word for "penis" wouldn't have saved me from what happened or helped me tell someone what happened to me. I was three, okay? I want you to try to put yourself in the shoes of being a three year old, with someone who was a trusted adult, trying to make sense of someone sticking a part of their body in your privates while you were isolated and alone with them. Add to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:32 PM
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I know this comment is completely in bad faith, but I spent my whole time as a lesbian in the anti-SJW crowd calling feminism cancer, so this comment is personally very amusing for me. I became way liberal after I literally manned up and just transitioned. I still don't consider myself a feminist persay, but, being a dude woked me way harder than being a lesbian did since I stopped hating myself and fortified my ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:41 PM
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I like thirst traps. More thirst traps is my party line.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 03:35 PM
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The point of my post isn't that men have nothing terrible in their lives ever, okay? I'm trying to explain what the other side of constant male attention, unwanted or otherwise, is like. It's not fun, and it doesnt mean women are treated better by society. That was the question I was trying to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:40 PM
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Are you really going to sit here and try to talk to me like you didn't just try to insult me a few comments up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:37 PM
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Men get threatened with violence too all the time. Does that cure your loneliness of does it make it worse? Because it's just a threat of violence with extra steps at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:35 PM
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There's been a lot of fanfiction in these comments, but you're the first one to write fanfic about me lol. Cool man, I like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:31 PM
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I'm not trying to make a definitive statement about the matter, sorry if it came off that way. In that video, Natalie did say she preferred the firing squad of dicks--- I was going to include that, but I felt like I had heard her change her mind on that. I couldn't confirm either way so I just left it out. Maybe I should have included it anyway, sorry. But yeah personally I disagree having transitioned the opposite way. Edit: oh literally in the same video she changes her mind. The Sylvia Plath …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:26 PM
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Again, it's you who think being sensitive and emotional is a bad thing. The only thing bad about it is that you're in so much denial you won't do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:15 PM
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Okay bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:08 PM
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That's literally only an insult if you think being emotional and sensitive is always a bad thing. In this context, it's an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:02 PM
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A collection. I'm like a deluxe Ken doll with all the accessories.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:56 PM
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Honestly man, like, I really believed I you've experienced both you wouldn't feel that way. That's not meant to undermine your trauma, but, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:49 PM
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The cope is real, huh? There's no way of saying this without being mean, but I don't know how straight men tell themselves with a straight face they aren't sensitive and emotional creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:47 PM
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I'm going to assume some of you just cant read.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:41 PM
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Do I really have to explain to you that "safest" doesn't mean "perfectly safe" or?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:41 PM
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If that's what helps you sleep at night brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:39 PM
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There is so much fanfic writing going on in this comment section I'm having to check I'm not on tumblr.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:39 PM
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I have said this five million times, for the love of God read the whole op before commenting: nothing against the men who were appropriate and respectful. No beef, no hard feelings, they were just fine. No complaints. It was all the other men who weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:38 PM
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What I'm trying to say by bringing that up is that when I was a child the party line (if you will) to dealing with child sexual assault was to put an immense amount of unfair pressure on the child themselves to be able to both rationally explain what happened to them, and tell an adult. When I was taught "if an adult touches you, tell an adult right away" I took that to mean I was going to get into serious trouble that I didn't tell anyone what happened to me. I didn't understand what happened t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:34 PM
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I know you've made this comment to try to get my goat, but of boy, wouldn't it nice if escaping rape trauma could be so easy eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:12 PM
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You're missing the forest for the threes here bud, it wasn't that there was a lot of attention, it was that it was INESCAPABLE and DANGEROUS.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:10 PM
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I can't stop you from writing your own fanfic about reality, but I'm going to discourage you from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:08 PM
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I can't believe how much I'm being accused of just lying about stuff in this comment section, lol. You know that even some bi women will refuse to date straight cis men because they're just fed up with it? This is a pretty well known thing in the queer community.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:07 PM
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Valid my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:04 PM
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Bro I can't stop you from believing in your headcanon but regardless if you chose to believe it, ask any woman, that's the reality. I was clearly a dyke. I only on occasion wore makeup. For most of my life part of my head has been shaved. My favorite jacket said fucking "Friendly neighborhood dyke" on it. Male attention anyways. I got male attention standing in the Circle K at 5 am hung over full of mud after waking up in my friend's flower bed after a raver when I was at the height of my alcoho…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:00 PM
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Okay, so, this is what's going on, okay? From my experience. Back when I was living as a woman, my reasoning for not want male attention was always the same: I was a lesbian. Not once did me saying "I'm a lesbian" stop a man from flirting with me. Nor did, "I'm in a relationship, I have a boyfriend, i have a girlfriend, I'm not interested, etc." I disproportionately experienced negative male attention because I wasn't looking for it, keep in mind, so a confident guy who didn't feel like he had a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:49 PM
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No and that's fair. I understand if this becomes painful to hear about over and over again. I tried to approach this based on the conversation I had with another redditor in a way I hope was helpful, but I understand if maybe I could have approached this in a different way. For what it's worth, I hope you know you are only personally responsible for your behavior at the end of the day. I don't like it either when men are treated like they're a hive mind. If you have any suggestions about how I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:05 PM
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You can chose not to believe me that straight women will happily sleep with other women as a easy alternative to hooking up with men, but it's true. I can't prove it obviously, but plenty of bi women refuse to sleep with or date straight cis men for this very reason. Go ask one. I totally agree that my experience was likely significantly more negative than if I was actually looking for the attention, but I'm trying to explain what women go through constantly being confronted with straight male s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:59 PM
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I got raped for the first time way WAY before the metoo movement bud. I was a little girl when that happened. Nobody came to help me. Nobody even knew it happened until the permanent physical damage that it caused my body started causing me problems as an adult. That's not even a factor contingent on me being born female, there was nothing in place to protect me or help me come forwards when I was younger regardless of my gender. Most people find the prospect of rape and pedophilia especially un…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:49 PM
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It really isn't my guy. If it was nothing but gentlemen approaching me that'd be one thing, and I would have probably had more positive experiences with men if I actually was actively looking for male attention, but it wasn't. It sucked. It was a constant threat I had to deal with on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:26 PM
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Not how what works? There was no male attention off switch, I can assure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:23 PM
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I was raped by a woman who I dated my guy. She shamed me, abused and manipulated into dating her for two years AFTER that. Trust me, I know the depths in which women suck and how you get not a crumb of empathy when the person abusing you is a cute little blonde girl who you could punch out in one blow but won't because she's cultivated an ora of being fragile and dainty so you just let her smash her bag into your face and call you a pathetic unlovable shit-stain. I know, everyone treats that kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:19 PM
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Mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:01 PM
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Oh yeah. Again, I wasn't really concerned with being labeled a bitch. I have too much of a strong personality to not be "a bitch" to some men. The women I was raised by were the same. French Canadian. But yeah, a lot of women are sensitive to that kind of social rejection. That's not to diminish them, but yeah this was just one of the many ways I was actually really bad at being a socially acceptable woman to begin with lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:59 PM
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Okay, something that I apparently didn't make clear enough in my post is that I wasn't trying to attract male attention. That whole time, I was actively trying to discourage male attention and attract female attention. So I do know what the radio silence is like, because I've only ever dated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:52 PM
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Firing squad of dicks from male attention I didn't want, radio silence from female attention I did. Keep up, here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:50 PM
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My guy, I'm not saying that straight gender rolls don't both come with bullshit. I'm trying to explain to you that the constant male attention isn't better than nothing. It's I think pretty worse, because it's a situation you can't liberate yourself from no matter what (unless you grow a beard and get your voice to drop(. A unwanted stress just on your whole existence forever. I never wanted male attention. I actively tried to discourage it. And yet, male attention still came. Again, there were …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:48 PM
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Read the thread above buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:35 PM
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God I love the "make up is catfishing" crowd. There was this app a few years ago that would "digitally remove makeup" I remember that made everyone look at least ten years older even on photos where the subject wasn't wearing make up. They were all like, "Aha! See! All women are secretly ugly! Take that foids!" The thing would fucking digitally bleach your brows abd add wrinkles to your face. Like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:34 PM
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The radio silence isn't new. I never dated men my dude. Not once has a woman come to ask me out either. I was dealing with both the radio silence and the unwanted firing squad of dicks at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:26 PM
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Buddy, like, I don't know what to tell you. Ask any women. The only reason why I got physically assaulted more often was because I was willing to be confrontational with them. Most women haven't taken a punch before, and it's not easy to stomach getting your first serious punch that way, they'll do a lot to avoid it getting physical. Including letting themselves get sexually abused just so they won't risk getting fucking killed. Men will hurt you so fast, and people will just watch. Again, that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:23 PM
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Okay, you seem to be under the impression that thus constant male attention is the opposite of loneliness--- it's not. It's a more violent and threatening form of isolation. Even if you're someone who wanted to sleep with most of the men who approach you, you can't. They pose a very real physical danger. While I was still living as a woman, tons of women who considered themselves straight slept with me. Why? Because I was just significantly less likely to be a threat to their bolidy safety than …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:15 PM
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Actually, yeah. Didn't even think about this but yeah I second your point here. I had some very awkward years growing up too. Weirdly enough, the amount of male attention I attracted really got critical AFTER I came out as a lesbian at 16. Like, after I stopped feeling pressure to attract male attention, I got all the male attention, in situations where these men had no way of knowing I was a lesbian. Maybe it was just that I seemed like so much more of a confident person, I don't know. If you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:07 PM
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No I do agree with you that the question of "who is the most oppressed" is stupid, but to the men who don't understand why constant sexual attention sucks I wanted to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:43 PM
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I think If you have experienced both you'd change your mind. It is subjective, and again I'm not someone who struggles with asking girls out, but I think you might be underestimating how exhausting it is to live with that whether you want it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:42 PM
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What do you mean women use up most of the tax money in society? Do you mean like, child care? There's nothing stopping you from becoming a stat-at-home single dad my dude. My cousin is a professional lazy piece of shit and his meal ticket was fathering children for that sole purpose. In my country anyway, that's a possibility. Who's dicks, I the men are all off to war? The systemic injustices of the prison system don't negate anything I've said here. First off, that's a sucker's way of doing a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:36 PM
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Oh yeah that's definitely a part of it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:54 PM
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To cover my ass I will say when I was younger there were definitely women who would date queer people for the novelty, but that kind of behavior goes away as your dating pool ages my dude. I can see how you'd think that if you're in your very early twenties or a teenager, but I'm 26 now and it's a non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:52 PM
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I'd say do five seconds of research, to ask your grandmother even, but really it's just common knowledge that women had very limited economic opportunities outside of getting married up until very recently so I don't know what to tell you bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:19 PM
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My guy, that all the top countries in the world use the Nordic model absolutely demonstrates that capitalism is the issue here. The concepts of trade and barter and currency in exchange for independent goods and services predate capitalism. You have to be extremely willing to twist the definition of a "free market" to say what they have resembles anything near what new innovation capitalism pioneered. In my opinion, what the Nordic model provides is in spirit a much freer market than what a trad…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:15 PM
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If you're talking specifically about this occurring in poc communities, there has been a calculated tactical effort to destabilize black and hispanic families since the Regan administration in order to encourage criminal activity, imprison, and pretty blatantly renslave poc. It's legal under the US constitution to force prisoners to do slave labor, quite explicitly. Purposefully funneling drugs and illegal fire arms into poc communities, schooling disparities, gettoization, food deserts, wage di…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:45 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:34 PM
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I agree with you that the average man isn't very high up on the social hierarchy. But that he is the most high-valued peon. Well, really women are the most high valued peon in terms of profit, but men are treated superficially as the most high-valued peon so the state can maintain their loyalty. Again, it's easier to force women by rule of law into motherhood than it is to force men to stand on the front lines. Even with the draft, logistically, there's a reason why they don't just send like, pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:33 PM
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Okay this is a very common misunderstanding of the phrase "toxic masculinity." The phrase isn't meant to denote all masculinity as toxic, but that some elements of modern masculinity have negative impacts to both men and the people around them. And most of the elements of masculinity that are considered toxic are frankly synthetic. That women also buy things has literally nothing to do with what I'm talking about, I'm not sure how that's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:27 PM
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You keep telling yourself that bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:29 AM
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Capitalism doesn't have a monopoly on the concept of markets (ironically.) You don't get to point to any ol' mixed economy and claim everything about it that's good is capitalism. It's good because it's a well-balanced mixed economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:27 AM
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Each list has a different country, but all of them are using the Nordic model. To an American the Nordic model would be considered socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:14 AM
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The most aggravating thing is how you can't appreciate how lucky you are not everyone thinks like this. Because I could say the same thing about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:09 AM
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The US is ranked 34th to 21st in quality of life ranking depending on where you look and how you quantify it. Any more capitalist than the US you're tip-toing into fascism. Top rated countries are are socialist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:52 AM
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You don't seem to be able to grasp the difference between Men, the demographic inhabiting a specific social class, and men, the human beings who on an individual level have nuances and complexities to their specific situations. Individual men who are themselves responsible for perpetuating oppression should be held individually responsible. Men in general are not at fault for the specific social role they as a collective have been shoved into, and they deserve some compassion, patience and under…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:15 AM
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Not the reddit feminist who thinks all men everywhere are personally responsible for systemic oppression telling me to touch grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:48 AM
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With your current disposition I'd hazard a guess that the answer is likely, no, most women don't like you. Never too late to shape up though bud. The fuck maid your after doesn't exist, you need to bring some substance to the relationship too, but I believe in your ability to not be useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:45 AM
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How many times am I going to have to point out to me you're cisplaining my own oppression to me right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:39 AM
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Again, I'm a literal dickless manlet, and I pull fine. I just treat women like human beings. Take interest in them as people. Have open an honest communication with my girlfriends, even my fuck buddies. The Chad secret is just learning how to gracefully take rejection. You're unfortunately a little deep in the cool-aid for that from the sounds of it, but when you work your way back up to treating women like people, I promise you--- learning how to not let a no hurt your pride too badly is the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:34 AM
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Yep. As I said, part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:22 AM
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Dude what.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:19 AM
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If you mean me, I fuck women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:19 AM
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How old are you that the Iraq wars is ancient history in your books?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:12 AM
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Bro I am 5'3" and don't have a penis. I wasn't even a guy until two years ago. Never once have I had issues finding a girlfriend. I like "traditionally feminine" women too. All of my girlfriends from before and after I transitioned are women who primarily date men. I am walking proof you're incorrect about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:10 AM
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Absolutely most women hated their husbands back then my dude. That's pretty well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:06 AM
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Okay, so you DO want a wife that hates your guts then. You just don't want her to have the authority to say that to your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:05 AM
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Men are absolutely used as pawns today my guy. You must not live in a place with a large homeless population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:04 AM
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A literal rich white female feminist novelist tweeted something that got me punched in the face by a stranger screaming obscenities at me two days later. For going into the woman's bathroom before my transition while in drag. The person who punched me to be fair was a man, but he made it known what prompted him to do that. And no, I will not knock it off. I lived as a lesbian forca long time, I have first hand experience with how much lesbians can be part of the problem. You're being dismissive …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:01 AM
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No. Being a woman sucked so bad for me I quit bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:50 PM
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The industrial complex. Capitalism. The prioritization of short-term expansion and profit over long-term sustainability and human lives specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:49 PM
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Yeah that you're being so dismissive right now tells me you're part of the problem. I didn't say all cis women though. Do I really have to #notallwomen this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:48 PM
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I'm sorry, but I'm too distracted by the absolute hilarity of you bringing up Obama in that context, because the man aged like 30 years in the 8 he was president. Say what you want to about him as a leader, the man is a walking "presidency, not even once" poster if I ever saw one. The rest of this I literally cannot disipher, bro, what? You alright there friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:45 PM
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It really hasn't though. It really hasn't. That's some revisionist history and attributing innovation and economic prosperity to a system famous for breaking any time it wasn't being babysat for five seconds. Just to pick a random factoid out of the ether from the supposed "golden years" of capitalism. What made Teddy Roosevelt famous as a president and a politician? For being a fucking trustbuster. Literally regulating the "free market". Oops.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:34 PM
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Oh, you know. Actively made society a more hostile place for me to navigate while I'm already vulnerable. Indirectly inciting violance against me that directly injured my person. That kind of thing. Oh and terfs are absolutely sexist. I mean, all oppression is just class oppression wearing different hats. White cis straight women are so used to being in the spot light of systemic oppression they are almost just as bad as white cis straight men at times when it comes to accepting that they themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:20 PM
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I know this is going to come off as mean, but I'm not convinced you wouldn't benefit from a lil' therapy bud. Also, when quality of life is raised for everyone, everyone benefits. Even indirectly. Better workers, better families, better social scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:12 PM
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Okay, so, you seem to be having a hard time grasping that my point is not that women are super-mega oppressed and men have all the power, just that men get the biggest chunk of carrot. In the nuclear family model (not to be confused with straight people just being straight, the specific dynamics of the nuclear family) men get the most authority in his little bubble of influence, which is, systemically, just the illusion of freedom. That's the "ideal" systemic powers are trying to push society in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:09 PM
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You think being a dude automatically excludes you from universal Healthcare, free tuition, free housing and basic universal income?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:58 PM
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I'm a trans guy. I was a lesbian for ten years before that. There's so many cis white women who have been super uncool to me they made their own little club.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:56 PM
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You would almost have a point if it was easy to get sterilized as a woman at will, but it isn't. They will try to avoid sterilizing you even if you're fucking dying from those organs. The system is designed to push women into child-rearing. It will even affect your employability. That's just an example. I could give you thousands. Like how you're significantly less likely to get promoted due to the predominant male work force. I'm not talking about the wage gap, but though the wage gap was misre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:53 PM
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You absolutely do not have to wait. We have the concept of social support programs in there here and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:44 PM
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I'm getting the impression you don't really get the scope in which the threat of pregnancy can annihilate your future prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:40 PM
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I mean, like, by those standards so do plenty of women. Like, your average straight white cis women are almost just as ignorant or active participants in the casual bigotry that affects me. Should I hold them all personally responsible for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:37 PM
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I don't expect everyone to do that work, I think that's valid, but even just trying not to actively antagonise or blame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:34 PM
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Let me be clear that men should have the right to not take responsibility for children they don't want before a kid is born, but having control over your own reproduction is a human right. Beyond that though, look up how many women have died since roe was appealed. Look up why geocologists are fleeing certain states.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:32 PM
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I am my own boss. Ironically I am exactly the kind of person willing to devote my entire life to my work, rise and grind. That so much shit has stood in my way to just work non-stop in peace is why I'm a socdem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:29 PM
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No where in my post did I say I came up with this. But if you don't believe me that none of this has been wide-spread taken to heart read the other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:26 PM
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That actually is pretty specific but if the answer you're looking for is capitalism, it's capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:24 PM
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You're pushing the blame just the other way. My point is that no one should be to blame but the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:23 PM
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A man did, yes. Men in general did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:21 PM
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I mean, you're not wrong. Deliberately calling someone by the wrong pronouns is for sure not becoming behavior, but I meant more like, the high key entitlement. Part of my family are immigrants. "Not as bad as x third world country" is a pretty lame excuse. The that's your ceiling for how well you're willing to treat women doesn't bode well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:18 PM
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Women not dying is a privilege they have over men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:09 PM
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How do men and women want different things? Or do you like being married to a woman who hates your guts?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:03 PM
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I agree with you that it's a lot to ask, but if I'm being honest I feel the same way about cis women (I'm a transguy.) I'm still here to advocate for them though. I'm willing to be extremely patient when explaining to cis women when they do an oopsie transphobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:01 PM
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They didn't create it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:57 PM
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Unsustainable short-term profits, baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:57 PM
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Easier is some ways, more difficult in others. None of which you're going to be able to deduce some broader truth about gender. Mostly I just hate myself a lot less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:56 PM
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You're not wrong technically, but the implication is not great here bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:32 PM
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Roe v. Wade was overturned a year and a half-ish ago my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:29 PM
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The way men are spoken to about systemic oppression, there is an implication that they must ne happier and live easier more fulfilling lives. Like that them acting like rabid bears on cocaine laced with pcp being treated as normal for them is because they like it. Some men and women don't want to be helped. They insist in sitting in the cesspool and will kick and scream if you try to coax them out of it. But a lot of men would benefit from being approached in a way that doesn't put them on the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:26 PM
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Because I'm covering my ass. But honestly as depressing as it is from my experience it absolutely does have to be said. This could have easily been prezeled into a defense by a dude who's trying to justify shitty behavior he doesn't understand why what he did is shitty. Again, it's that conditioning for a lack of interpersonal intelligence, but--- "I didn't mean it that way" is a pretty common defense men use. A valid explanation, not an excuse, you feel me? By the way, I am a man. Trans guy. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:16 PM
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Not to be like a kindergarten teacher here, but my point is that hating them back for that prolongs the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:02 PM
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Interesting, care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:00 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:52 PM
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Feminist scholars have, this is by no means a new idea, but it isn't one that's really been taken to heart in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:51 PM
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Lol bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:39 PM
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That you're so attached to that version of your own masculinity kind of supports my point, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:17 PM
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