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To be fair the actual law is mainly regarding pregnancy, supposedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 08:23 PM
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It's not a troll, you just refuse to believe anyone sharing your beliefs would say something so stupid. Ontop of that a few months ago there was a pretty popular tweet, with tens of thousands of likes echoing the same sentiment regarding rape by deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 03:35 PM
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What? This is the first time she's spoken about this on her account and none of the other videos indicate she's a troll, brainless take. I'm guessing anyone else who embarrasses you is also a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:42 PM
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Haha, right? It's a bit unfortunate that both the left and the right seem to have bone to pick with consensual sex outside of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 02:16 PM
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Precisely, not everything immoral needs to be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:03 PM
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMR4GWnCb/ I love rape by deception discourse, it's so unhinged, how exactly would you prove the difference between someone intentionally decieving you and someone changing your mind after you act unhinged?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:45 PM
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There's obviously context to when it's appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:08 PM
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How
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:19 PM
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Doesn't have to be desperate but those who assume desperation are probs functioning on a few brain cells anyway so best to just let them go. Unrealistic expectations for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:02 PM
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Brainlet take tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:07 PM
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It looks desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:06 PM
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Imagine being so thirsty as to send two messages lmao I'm a zoomer nihilist, I'm so cool. This. Jk, obviously there's room for nuance but more often than not double texting looks desperate. Yeah you don't need to autistically avoid literally all double texts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:06 PM
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Tell that to Haley Joel Osmont.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 02:00 PM
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Why do people unironically try to defend double texting lol. Like, if you need to double text chances are the relationship isn't gonna work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 01:59 PM
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Good way to get back at german men by raping german women lol. You really got them good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:16 PM
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It's utter horseshit made so people can sleep better at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:58 PM
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Yes, she believed that women were effectively brainwashed by society and incapable of consenting to heterosexual intercourse in the same way children cannot consent. Different kind of rape than being held down while you scream but ultimately still rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:57 PM
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Probably not, but there's significantly more russian men than there are feminist THINKERS, note how I didn't say all feminists or all women. Specifically feminist ideologues, which is a significantly smaller demographic to be generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:56 PM
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Oh so now Dworkin was non-literal and hyperbolic, yeah right. You and I both know that's absolute horse shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:51 PM
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Does it mean that most Russian men are wife-murderers and rapists? Idk, Ask the women in berlin in 1946 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:40 PM
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What? You really think there's no difference between being a fan of a artist who has vaguely misognystic lyrics, and being fan of a philosopher? Nobody gives a fuck about Travis Scott's personal ideology lol, no one is listening to his music for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:38 PM
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I saw a tiktok that was just a Andrea "All heterosexual intercourse is rape" Dworkin quote that got over 20k likes. What's so funny is since 2013 there's been a hard push to sanitize feminism and make it more appealing to men and women who don't absolutely hate men, and so whenever someone who opposed feminism would bring up borderline genocidal feminist thinkers like Dworkin the argument was that they were "Long dead and irrelevant". Well, I don't think 20k likes is irrelevant at all. Dworkin i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:30 PM
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I think it's literally just something some youtube pua-trp-manosphere dude made to grift people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:04 PM
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As team man and misognystic as I might be this whole sigma male shit is gay as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 02:41 PM
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I'm redpill sympathetic and I agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 02:13 PM
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At the end of the day, even the 5’7 guys end up finding someone usually so i saw it as unnecessarily doom & gloom. 10 or 20 years ago maybe, but I think in a modern context that doesn't seem as likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:54 PM
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They should just switch to half-weekly megathreads. That would fix the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:52 PM
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Well most women would be divorcing their husbands who are "great guys" if people followed this rule lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:20 PM
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turned out to be a pyrrhic victory, and then he resents her for being a disappointment, and then associates that resentment with all the work he did just for her useless ass to be waiting at the end of all of it... Probably not, more realistically he put in the work and it still didn't pay off.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:17 PM
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It's the same way addicts are destroying themselves with opiates, yes it's obviously a choice they're making, but you have to look at the societal and cultural reasons of why they're making that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:16 PM
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The amount of men who actually choose porn over sex with their s/o's is greatly overrated. More often than not porn is a calamine lotion put in to sooth the itch that isn't being scratched by their s/o.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:14 PM
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Life is short, and time is a unreplenishable resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:08 PM
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I didn't say 23 year olds had low libidos, I said a 23 year old who had a low N count most likely would have a low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 06:20 PM
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Are you low N? Fairly. Why would a 23 year old woman be low libido? Because she's not interested in sex? that can happen at any age, also it's a matter of being low N AND low libido, if she's not low libido at that age it's unlikely she's gonna be low N. Women don’t actively reject men their own age...so not bs. Before the age of like, 25 they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:58 PM
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Okay but outside of that context the comment makes no sense LOL. I'm stating that at a younger age I.E. 18-22 finding a low N but not low libido woman isn't that insane and unlikely. Also in my own personal experience a lot women I've met don't date men their own age? So I have to call bullshit on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:45 PM
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Male and female dating strategies are on a fundemental level at odds. Like I benefit from getting a girl who is simultaneously low N but sexually attracted enough to me to put out early, and you benefit from with holding sex and finding guys who are willing to wait. One of us has to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:43 PM
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You didn't address the rest of my comment at all. My girlfriend is 19 I don't see how that's an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:15 AM
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No? But a lot of women date up in age though, I'm saying though I think that between the age of 18-22 it's likely you can find a girl with a low, or 0 N-count who isn't low libido. I think past the age of 23 it's pretty unlikely she's not gonna be low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:08 PM
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Yeah I would say if you're older and not dating young then you probably should give up on filtering for low N, or be relative with what's low, cause any virgin, or really low n count 25+ is garaunteed to be cripplingly low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:58 PM
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I'm 23 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:56 PM
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Nah, I would say ages 18-22 is about reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:47 PM
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Yeah, absolutely. Plenty of women assume the absolute worst of all men for their physical safety so why can't men do the same thing for their mental and emotional safety?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:30 PM
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It depends on how young you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:29 PM
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Well not literally all, but you can't tell the women who do feel this way from the women who don't from the outset, so it's safest to assume it's all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:12 PM
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Hey that's really fucked up that you'd refer to every woman on earth as a bitch and a cunt. Kinda misognystic tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:55 PM
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Nope, the men you want to swipe right on (who are usually attractive) don't want relationships. Lots of lonely uggos out there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:00 PM
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Are you saying there are no European incels then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:58 PM
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This is one of the worst takes I've seen in a while. Everything you've said is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:56 PM
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Okay but most "rant" threads, which are what you described. Get deleted, OPs thread isn't that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:53 PM
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If women can use waiting for sex to eliminate players, men can use the same to eliminate high n women if that’s something they want to do. Nah, that's the fallacy here. These women may be high N, but they aren't necessarily eager to be having sex with the beta romantic type dudes they're dating. They can afford to wait especially considering they'll be getting something else on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:52 PM
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High N women can wait for sex with the boring beta they're dating if they're getting sex from hot guys outside the non-relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:49 PM
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Why do you even post here lol. It's a "debate" sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:47 PM
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Incels are shamed because they’re psychos who wrute about how women deserve to be murdered and raped for not having sex with them. Yeah that's horseshit, before the term or phenomenon of incels was a thing being a male virgin was something to be ashamed of, jesus christ watch superbad or american pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:08 AM
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But the reason why men do that is because they're less attractive for not having the casual sex lol. Womens attraction is based on what other women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:06 AM
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It's a lot of the time the same thing for female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 09:44 AM
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Yeah "claim" being the word in question here. As in it's bullshit lol. There are no real femcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 12:27 AM
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I'm not arguing that there is no such thing as high and low value, I'm arguing that most people on ppd corrupt these labels with their own personal bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:54 PM
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Exactly, so since it's relative, so the label "low value" is about as objective as the label "fucking retarded idiot". It's an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:44 PM
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Yeah but those values are subjective to the individual, the terms high and low value are rarely ever used in good faith here. I'm not arguing that there is no such thing as high and low value, I'm arguing that most people on ppd corrupt these labels with their own personal bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:42 PM
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Nah I've heard people imply that an uglier, shorter, poorer, man with the right opinions is higher value, so it's all relative and never used in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:41 PM
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Okay but ON PPD the terms are never used in good faith and are just a stand in for an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:38 PM
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Virtually in all cases and are almost never used in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:35 PM
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They're meaningless because they're completely subjective fill ins for insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 05:33 PM
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I've dated a few women who would be considered quite unattractive by societal standards, I can tell you, having dated women who are attractive, the ugly ones in terms of personality were significantly worse in every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:38 PM
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Is there any evidence the majority of men who want committed relationships are able to get them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:36 PM
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Yeah but that's not how the vast majority of people use it here. Like a guy who was 6'5 with a nine inch dick and a six figure salary who's a misognyst is going to be called "low value" by the majority of women here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:34 PM
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Solution 5 is actually genuinely good, debate me as to why it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:23 PM
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CMV: High value and low value women/men are utterly meaningless terms and just take the place of basic insults and ad hominem. Because basically regardless of your pill or gender, a high value is "person I agree with ideologically" and low value is "person I disagree with ideologically".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:23 PM
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Same with the nonsense about how all misogynists are ugly virgins, when misogynistic views actually predict high partner counts in men. Do you have a source for this? It sounds interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 03:20 PM
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A lot of mormon missionaries are usually not that bad looking, so these guys, if they weren't religious probably wouldn't be virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:21 PM
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can't imagine liking yourself and wanting something good for yourself yet still putting yourself through bs Yeah but they like themself enough to pursue someone they're attracted to, and a lot of them are just not attracted to men who are interested in them openly and without stipulation. Like they're not choosing between "guy whos attractive who pays attention to me vs guy who is attractive and doesn't pay attention to me" because the former guy ISN'T attractive by virtue of him liking her open…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:19 PM
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I just mean that it's not a matter of esteem if you're just bored or you can't respect men who aren't making you jump through hoops for affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:14 PM
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Maybe it's because she can't respect women who like her openly and without strings or (unreasonable) conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:09 PM
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Yeah but there's a lot less of a sterotype of bi guys refusing to date the same sex. Like I feel like if you ask a lot of gen z people today if they've known a bi girl who's never dated any women they'd probably say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:05 PM
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Yeah I'm asking why though. Why do so many bi women feel no romantic attraction to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 02:03 PM
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https://twitter.com/CovfefeAnon/status/1412634352987557892?s=19 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:10 PM
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Yeah but the sterotype isn't that they can't date women it's that they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:37 AM
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Not the same thing, there is a lot more effort that goes into fucking a person vs masturbating with an object
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:35 AM
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Okay but in the united states there's almost a sterotype of bisexual girls who are only biSEXUAL and do not date women. This is like a fairly popular sterotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:33 AM
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How can you not be attracted to women and fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:30 AM
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Q4Women: why are there so many bisexual girls who don't date women? Like women especially modern women seem to not have many nice things to say about men, so assuming you already are attracted to women to begin with why is the idea of a relationship with one unappealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 10:27 AM
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Why did it get deleted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:50 PM
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Okay then a virgin woman who recieves 7/10 sex in that case more than likely is going to be more satisified than someone who's had someone truly gifted previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:49 PM
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There's a lower standard beyond "make me cum"? Yeah? I've not finished many many times during sex lol. Also I didn't dodge the question, I said I would be satisfied but I'm male so my answer is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:32 PM
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The best sexual partner? My answer is irrelevant because I, as a result of being male don't really hold my partners to high standards. But yes women would want the best, widely speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:11 PM
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It's not unattractive, just less attractive by comparison, also ultimately you can work around that, but not needing to is far better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:05 PM
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It's not unattractive, just less attractive by comparison, also ultimately you can work around that, but not needing to is far better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:05 PM
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I can have more than one friend though, you can't have more than one husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:03 PM
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Yeah how MEDIOCRE, there's a world of difference between being mediocre and being above average. Even if you're putting maximum effort and being above average, if she's had many previous partners it's unlikely you're the best. You seem to have this weird idea that the difference between good lovers and great lovers is effort. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:39 PM
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Because being better can be a matter of natural talent or natural endowment, or you could also be less attractive than other guys she's fucked which would make having sex with you less fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 03:37 PM
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Yeah but the "BEST" isn't always a matter of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:05 PM
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Over time, you do get to know your partner's body better than anyone else. Being the best isn't a matter of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:03 PM
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6/10 sex usually means no orgasms. ??? What? 6/10 is above average on a 1 to 10 scale. Not mediocre. What exactly would numbers 1 through 5 be then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:01 PM
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Yeah but if your partner was above average in bed you wouldn't have known you could have had better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 02:00 PM
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Sometimes your absolute best isn't as good as someones "I'm drunk and nearly half asleep"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 01:59 PM
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IF YOU AIN'T FIRST YOUR LAST!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:10 PM
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But sexual unsatisfaction sex is one of the main reasons why people cheat lol. If you've had better you're going to be unsatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:07 PM
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You can always hedge your bets, even if there are no guarantees.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 12:06 PM
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Yeah, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 11:52 AM
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The other direction is manosphere. What? I'm saying she's as insane as the average bloop just more in terms of "redpill" beliefs, hence "the other direction"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:59 AM
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It wasn't potrayed as an injustice in his original comment? Just an observation that there MUST be genetic losers, who lose not through the fault of their own lack of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:16 AM
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It certainly is luck haha. It's luck even when you're already attractive. You can put all the effort in the world in and still fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 10:07 AM
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This is exactly how I feel! I don't think most incels are as hopeless as they claim to be, but the weird bluepill stubbornness to admit that there is ANYONE who's hopeless is fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:59 AM
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It's just the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" just world fallacy bullshit boomers peddle but instead of it being about wealth it's about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 09:57 AM
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This is one of the few things I won't do to get girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:59 AM
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Her beliefs are about as insane as the average bloop, just in the other direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:52 AM
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Chelsea Handler swears off dating white men and now I'm beginning to believe white privilege may exist...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 07:46 AM
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I need to get a female psychiatrist...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:17 PM
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Poppy isn't blue pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:05 PM
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I thought /trufemcels was quarantined/made private as a result of them trying to avoid being made fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:03 PM
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How about nubile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:03 PM
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they can't even do that now but somehow they think it will totally be possible if they grew a penis lol As much as I want to agree we can't assume these women aren't romantically successful themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:06 PM
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I don't disagree. But this isn't just a response to that thread, because that thread has basically been reposted many many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:03 PM
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There are lots of BP females who have been posting here for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:02 PM
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This is a good response, however in OP's post he said more or less "since women think it's easy to get a date" and the details of your list are kinda contradictory to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:01 PM
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I genuinely don't know how this is a reply to my post, like I'm puzzled if you accidentally posted this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:59 PM
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Whenever we get these "Q4W: if you were a ugly/average man how would you get a gf/what would you do" threads, I feel like the premise is still flawed, because the women in question didn't grow up male, and have no male experiences or even more importantly a male libido, so a lot of there answers come down to "why would I need/want a girlfriend" or a sort of "just live life and hope a girl falls into my lap with no effort".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:46 PM
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Have you ever considered that they developed feelings after they became friends with you? And then after saying you like someone, that's fucking awkward, and gross especially knowing that person is going to date other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 02:40 PM
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I also think that these cold women date dorky men because they lack options, and the dorky men date cold women because they also lack options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:00 PM
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Yeah but you've stated that the issue is dishonesty from the get go, if men are open about it then what's keeping women from just picking monogamous men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:45 PM
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It's bad to get rejected. It's understandable to reject people, but it's not a good thing for the person being rejected, why should men have to sugar coat and relentlessly c*pe and tell yourself it's not a big deal and that it doesn't matter? It seems dishonest. As well I think the slinking and sinking is accurate because the typical reaction to rejection, especially from someone you're already friends with and subsequently feel you have a connection with enough that you think you should make a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:04 PM
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Okay but what motivation do women who are monogamous have of letting their boyfriend fuck other women vs just dating a guy who won't cheat on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 07:00 PM
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Yeah and in the last 10,000 years of civilization women had to depend on men for security, women can get jobs now, and boyfriends who don't want to, or are atleast willing to successfully resist the urge to sleep with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:51 PM
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What's with the slinking and the shrinking? It's just accepting the facts and moving on with your life. I don't see what your issue is with how I've worded it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:49 PM
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Men could have that negotiating power No? The reason why they lack that negotiating power is that men are overwhelmingly more attracted to women than vice versa. 80/20 and all. So the majority of average men without being extremely wealthy won't be able to exclusively find a one sided poly relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 06:07 PM
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Yeah but most men are objectively not attractive enough to have that negotiating power lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:28 PM
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But I suppose not every relationship starts like that where a woman already likes you. Most relationships I'd argue, because most men don't immediately strike women as "wow he's handsome" so most men are going to have to prove themselves, and a lot of that proving process requires not being outwardly nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:28 PM
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Yeah but a great deal of those cuckolds are the result of not having the negotiating power to prevent their s/o from fucking other men. It's like a choice between "let me fuck other men or be single, your choice".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:24 PM
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What are you on about most men do not want to be cucked, and most men aren't dumb enough to expect a woman to let them sleep with other women without expecting the same in return. You have no evidence for most men being polyamorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:22 PM
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If you enter a monogamous relationship, most people expect that relationship to stay monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:21 PM
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Well you do if you'd like to live past the age of 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:17 PM
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There's a lot of unattractive niceness that doesn't mean creepy niceness, like for example responding to texts quickly, as a guy is a big no no because it's interpreted by women as desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:12 PM
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Internet? The situation I'm proposing is a guy trying to make a move on a platonic female friend and failing, the faux "Nice Guy" will get angry and probably go on some spiel about how women only like guys who treat them like shit and are shallow etc etc, where as the genuine nice guy will accept the L and shrink out of sight. The latter is certainly less embarrassing, but up until the point of rejection the two would be seemingly identical in actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:11 PM
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And being nice prevents that physical attraction usually, unless they're exceptionally attractive to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 05:05 PM
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Easy, the data shows the lower the N count, the lower the rate of divorce. And if I had to guess as to why that was the case, it's probably that if you've fucked 10 guys, the likelihood that your LTR is the best one you've fucked is lower than if you've fucked 2 guys. Don't forget, sex isn't a meritocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:14 PM
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Do you unironically think that TRP advocates for rape, or do you think that any degree of deception in dating someone is paramount to rape? If you believe the latter I'd love to know where your line is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:12 PM
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The point of those posts is to clear the head of the men who lurk there. You cannot overcome a challenge you don't fully understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:02 PM
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Okay. But ultimately they aren't in any better of a situation than the scheming "Nice Guy". Hell if anything they're much worse off because the faux "Nice Guy" can realize the strategy he's working with is flawed and move on to something better, where as the authentic nice guy is attatched to his "ideals" and is hard headed and continues failing and never self reflecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:00 PM
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There still isn't much difference between a faux manipulative "Nice Guy" and a genuine nice guy, the only real distinction comes from after they're rejected, one will lash out in anger, and one will slink away into the shadows with his tail between his legs. But ultimately they suffer the same fate. The authentic nice guy has a minor advantage in that he doesn't risk gaining a bad reputation but I don't doubt that many real nice guys get accused, or assumed to be faux "Nice Guys", so any advanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 02:54 PM
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I don't think penetration is key. I think it's all about libido. For a lot of girls who get statutorily raped the motive is rarely ever purely "wow this guy is so hot I want to have sex with him and that's it". There's usually some sort of greater manipulation and coercion happening there. I would even say cases where women are molesting girls it's still more manipulative and less straight forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 04:55 PM
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Right, that's why a lot of men react that way, it's immature but I do feel like there are some real and severe fundemental differences between male and female teachers fucking students of the opposite sex, and I'm saying that as a decidedly right leaning "team man" guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:50 PM
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It's not even a rape fantasy, it's a statutory rape fantasy lol. If you're young man and have a good memory you can usually remember your line of logic at age 13 or 14. Not justifying it, it's just "rape fantasy" isn't the right word.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:46 PM
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Bit more niche than james charles but if you looked up the thing with danny avidan, this like somewhat famous dude in the realm of videogames stuff on YouTube he got into a bit of hotwater temporarily for fucking one of his adult fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 01:43 PM
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I don't know if any of you are young, or dumb enough to care about e-celeb drama but the term "power imbalance" or "power dynamic" has come up recently with adult internet-celebrities and their also adult fans, as a way of saying by virtue of these people being fans it robs them of their ability to make a decision. Also I've seen various people echoing the idea that grown adults can be groomed, it's a bit scary how desperate people are becoming not to take any degree of accountability for their …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/21 08:10 AM
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They don't, it's a case of the loudest voices. As someone who is gen Z there's still plenty of women drooling over traditionally masculine dudes with 6 packs, also a lot of this has to do with them being underage, and by in large underage girls tend to prefer more femine/androgynous boys because that's what boys their age look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 05:01 PM
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Because a white man has physiologically more in common with a black man than he does a white woman. There's more evidence of sex (and gender) being more real than there is race.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 04:55 PM
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There's a stronger basis for changing your race than there is your sex, and most terf arguments are literally identical to most anti-transracial arguments lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:34 PM
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The purge on here really kinda sucks, honestly it should be more controlled chaos, like "post anything you want, that also has to do with the topic of the subreddit" cause otherwise you just get literally meaningless shitposts pushing out any kind of interesting, albeit controversial content.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 02:32 PM
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You're insane lol. If you "cheat" survival of the fittest, YOU are the fittest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 04:59 PM
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It's not even really being a jerk, just being less nice, like, responding to text messages less frequently is a tried and true method.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:44 PM
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Women look for men with a bigger dick than her Uhhh... 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:40 PM
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So you prioritize the happiness of female strangers over your male children? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:35 PM
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Perhaps, but we're talking about dating advice. "Just be yourself" is bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:57 AM
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plus, girls get 10k boob jobs, lipo, fillers, nose jobs, makeup etc, its not really that bad, and you ignored the rest. Yeah and lipo (which could be fixed through dieting) boob jobs and nose jobs all aren't banned in the west for being too dangerous like cosmetic leg lengthening surgery is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:01 AM
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Based mom lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:58 AM
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You should be a man who women are attracted to, if that man happens to be "yourself" then great, if not you need to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:58 AM
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Unfair to whom? Ideally you'd want your child to succeed, full stop. She'd only need to teach double and triple bluffing if her daughter was dating her son lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:57 AM
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How do your priorities change if you're a single woman in your 30s pushing 40 vs in your teens and 20s? Reliability and genuine kindness and responsibility are not something that catches the eye of young women, they matter to older women who now need these things but it's a consequence of their life circumstances changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:56 AM
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https://twitter.com/robkhenderson/status/1407024156701507586?s=19 Never forget fellas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 11:55 PM
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I'm not saying the advice itself is "don't do any work and sit around and wait for women to find you" they're certainly being told to put work in, it's that they're wasting their time, the advice of "be the best version of yourself" is still dogshit, don't be a great version of yourself, be a mediocre version of a man who actually gets pussy. Better to create a low quality product that people actually want than a high quality product with no market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 02:50 PM
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Literally nothing would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 01:21 PM
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Not really though, there are "normal" personality traits that are unattractive to the vast majority of women, like being mousy and unassertive. For some people, being passive IS their personality, and I don't think it's that uncommon. It's still bad advice, rather than be yourself, be the kind of man women want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 01:19 PM
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These are all redpill things you're spouting. But it is a narrative, men are told to be themselves, are you seriously arguing they aren't? And that is overwhelmingly dog shit advice. So when men get raised on bad advice, it's no surprise when they end up with bad results lmao. There is a big deal of actual responsibility and self improvement one can do don't get me wrong, but men are by and large fed really shitty advice and then actively discouraged from pursuing the things that work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 01:18 PM
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The "there's someone out there for everyone" and the "just be yourself" narrative has ruined countless men's lives because it actively discourages meaningful self improvement. "You can self improve while still being yourself" not always, there are times where what's holding you back is literally a core foundational aspect of your personality. Plus the whole concept of "self" is nebulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:28 AM
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Yeah, there is winning, reproducing, not reproducing is losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 10:23 AM
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Right? I'm sure the latter one is the real victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:20 PM
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Then they shouldn't claim that they want to be loved, It is love, it's just a different kind of love. Like how some women get upset when a man lists off his reasons why he loves a girl and her being pretty is the first one. It's still a reason lol, it's arguably the oldest reason. Also nobody wants it to be the ONLY reason, just a reason, like in the top 3 reasons. You can find someone attractive but not love them, but you can also love someone because you find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 07:08 PM
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But they do love them lol, they love them in the way that they want to be loved. Any guy can get loved for his boring ass comfort traits and wealth, few can get loved for their looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:56 PM
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Ultimately, what makes such a man feel valued would be being treated like a fucktoy. And that's fine... just don't pretend the woman doing it actually values him. Well, firstly it's not all or nothing, you can be immediately very viscerally attracted to someone, and also like them as a person, which is ideal. You can say that how a man wants to be loved is irrelevant to you and that's fine but ultimately that's why guys don't like being made to wait because they're losing in the ways that matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:51 PM
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I guess, I mean it worked out with my current girlfriend, but coming across someone who matches that energy isn't likely and it's best to just keep it extremely lowkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 06:34 PM
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For enough people to warrant caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:47 PM
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Superior according to who? Other men? You're not the one determining value in this scenario. Yes, big shocker, people want to be loved and valued for the things they love and value. Being loved for being extremely viscerally attractive to most men is superior to being loved for a long boring nebulous list of ill defined comfort traits. But hey, now we know how you feel about the women YOU use for sex. There's no need to be malicious lol I'm more poking fun at your comment saying they're "as usef…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:46 PM
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If the measurements are nebulous and ill defined then it shouldn't be compared to IQ, and the naming of it makes it intended to be compared to IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:42 PM
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This is where the disconnect is. The guys I fuck immediately ARE the lesser... women can use men for sex just as easily as men can. If a guy is good only for sex, he's no more valuable than a vibrator. Hahahaha, holy shit. I'm sure those guys are literally crying themselves to sleep right now lol. You probably ruined their lives by "using" them for sex and then didn't want a relationship. Ultimately, it's about values, you may not see those guys who you were attracted enough to fuck with 0 vetti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:39 PM
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because they think women are only have the greatest sex of their life every day with chads and then settle down and give their husbands vanilla sex once a month. Yeah, this is literally unironically what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:29 PM
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But there is no measurement that's actually functional lol, so it still fails at what it's intended to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:16 PM
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The name exists literally to trick less educated people into thinking it's the emotional version of IQ lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:16 PM
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Fine because I already have a girlfriend LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:10 PM
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Yeah but it's mutual, I'm fine with being less important to my wife than my children, because it's the same for her, she'd be less important to me than our children. But with someone elses kids that's not true, and forming that kind of attatchment to kids that aren't yours feels gross to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 05:09 PM
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Does it really show? Really? Without reading minds, and assuming the guy didn't brag to a friend or openly admit to manipulating him, how do you really know he planned to pump and dump you vs changing his mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:53 PM
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I've also had this mindset and for me, women interpret anything other than aloof apathy as absolute desperation for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:52 PM
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If EQ shares nothing in common with IQ why is it named in a similar manner? Hell they ever shortened the acronym to two letters instead of 3 (when it should be EIQ for Emotional Intelligence Quotient) specifically so it would seem similar to IQ. It's literally deceptively made to appear similar to IQ to the layman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:44 PM
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Yeah, literally. Because EQ is literally created to be compared to IQ, despite having no similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:15 PM
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Yes, but EQ means "Emotional Intelligence Quotient" where's the quotient when there's no standardized tests and all the tests can be lied on?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:14 PM
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I already mentioned it my post, there is a such thing as those who are more or less social adept. However EQ doesn't exist in the way it's commonly presented. I.E. as a empirical thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 02:02 PM
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It exists in juxtaposition to IQ which implies it's significantly more empirical than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:58 PM
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Then just stop telling men to act nice lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:56 PM
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Pinkpill and FDS are microscopic minorities, don't be terminally online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:53 PM
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Good retort, why doesn't EQ have numbers? How come I can lie on EQ tests and not on IQ tests? EQ is worthless outside of a term to describe low/high social aptitude. And you can tell the whole concept exists to be in comparison to IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:51 PM
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EQ still isn't real. And not in the sense that there aren't people who are more/less socially adept than others, but rather there is no "emotional intelligence quotient" to speak of. EQ tests can be lied on, IQ tests cannot. Also notice how it's always high/low EQ and not "an EQ of 95"? As well EQ isn't anywhere near as static as IQ and generally just increases naturally with age and life experience. The whole thing reaks of insecurity, like "I may be average IQ but I'm high EQ" like the whole c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:48 PM
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Even if they are a couple, are you not allowed to refuse being touched?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:16 PM
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Why are you only allowed to refuse being touched if it's sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:15 PM
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Yeah the same way if you were raised a Christian or Muslim you'll probably end up staying a Christian or Muslim as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:40 PM
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Oh yeah certainly, it's not surprising. It is interesting though how women feel entitled to non-sexual affection within a relationship at all times, and withholding that for any reason is a "redflag" and "punishing her".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:29 PM
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Vasectomies should never ever be considered a reversible surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:20 PM
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I don't even think it's that big of a deal, but if the sexes were reversed it certainly would be. Which also brings up a point of how men are often times shamed for not wanting to cuddle, and being told that refusing to do it is "punishing" women, but yet the reverse isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:19 PM
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Very very few terps are anti-abortion pro lifers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:18 PM
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Interesting double standard here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:16 PM
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Well in a later post I said deeply closeted homosexuality (to the point where you don't even know you're gay) or asexuality. But yeah i think it's both.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 07:27 PM
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It's not total asexuality, but it's close enough. I think you're splitting hairs by saying "No she's not asexual she fucked him for 20 minutes 9 months ago". I think that females being okay with never having sex again is proof that they're more inclined to asexuality, whether or not asexuality can be considered how "normal" female sexuality works is up for debate though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:45 PM
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I think you're projecting way too much. I'm confused because I have a high libido and I'm male. I'm not arguing every guy is getting DB'd or that it's even common, I'm just arguing that it's enough of a problem that the reasoning behind the women who aren't cheating and are DBing is most likely that they're either deeply closeted lesbians or just (mostly) asexual. I that a completely heterosexual woman with a normal libido is going to either fuck her husband, or fuck somebody else. But it's unli…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 05:15 PM
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Not all of them, and that's what I want you to explain. The ones not cheating, why? The fact that they're more afraid of being caught cheating than they are living their life sexually unfufilled proves that their libido is low, and borderline non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:29 PM
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Yeah and their risk aversion is proof that they have low libidos lol. If it was that severe then they would be willing to take the risk. I'm trying to figure out if you disagree with me because you think I'm wrong or because you think my hypothesis means women don't have to take moral responsibility, because I would argue that being a closeted lesbian, or a asexual, and wasting numerous years of your husbands life is completely and totally immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:28 PM
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Most of them can still fuck chad, or at the very least fuck a man more attractive than their husband, so if they only want to date chad then that still doesn't disprove my hypothesis about them being asexual. If their sexuality was THAT important, they'd either be cheating or fucking their husband. But it's not because all the non-cheaters are all either low libido or asexual. Or in a few instances not fucking their husband because of his negligence, I'm not gonna bother arguing about how common…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:10 PM
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I do when the risks of coming out are very low now in days. The whole trans issue is a whole different thing and I won't go into it, but failing to do ANY introspection and just thinking that not wanting to have sex with your husband or any man, or anybody for that matter is normal and not bothering to think any more on it is destructive and immorally negligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:40 PM
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What about the women who are deadbedrooming their husbands who aren't cheating? If they're not asexual and only horny for chad why isn't literally every single one of them cheating? Your argument is total horseshit. How can someone who's totally heterosexual and totally into sex, but only with chad, willingly opt out of sex with chad for the rest of their life? Because if you're seriously arguing "No, ALL of them are cheating" you're gonna have to cite a source saying that 100% of sexless relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:39 PM
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What good is womens lower threshold on male attractiveness for relationships compared to FWB and hookups if you're just going to deadbedroom your husband as a result of lowering your physical standards? Also the difference in "good enough to fuck" and "good enough to date" is vastly smaller than people claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:35 PM
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Yeah but I'd say the 80/20 rule is a symptom of womens lower libidio and proclivity to asexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:33 PM
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Yes, but I think if you live in a western first world country, you have a responsibility as an adult to understand yourself and not possibly waste 3 or 4 years of someone's life. Not being able to admit you're homosexual is that individuals fault, even with societal conditioning added, especially considering the degree that homosexuality is accepted in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:32 PM
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I'm not arguing about most women being secretly lesbian, but I am arguing that a decent enough portion of them are either closeted lesbians (so far in the closet that even they themselves don't know that they're lesbians) or completely asexual and sex repulsed. Because the amount of women who are totally and completely fine with having sex 4 times a year doesn't seem to make sense if they're as attracted to men as they claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 02:29 PM
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I don't know if it's lesbians or asexual but hetero-romantic women, but there are a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:35 PM
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Same, I do kind of resent women being seen as the big victims in this situation and not the guy who was tricked into dating a woman for multiple years who is disgusted by him on a fundemental level, because that's got to be traumatic enough to damage future relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:32 PM
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Yeah, precisely. It's situations like this where people are trapped that have caused my opinions on cheating to be a bit more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:30 PM
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Precisely, to some extent I feel bad for men who get deadbedroomed but unless you're worried about getting divorce raped, I don't know why they don't get out of that relationship, so similarly it's hard for me to feel bad for women who continue to date men who refuse to put any effort into getting them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:23 PM
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That's great for you, my point still stands and I agree with the girl I replied to. This extreme sex aversion seems like asexuality or compulsory heterosexuality, or perhaps not total asexuality but an extremely low libido, like still technically wanting to have sex, just not more than 4 times a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:18 PM
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Fuck no, hell I could count the amount of people who I've met who admit to using reddit on one hand. ALL of the pills, from red to blue to pink to purple, have an overly inflated sense of self importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:16 PM
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The whole point of pimps in criminalized prostitution is to threaten johns who mistreat the prostitutes (although usually the standards for how well you have to treat them are very low) and also make sure that they pay, in an industry where you can't exactly send someone to jail for theft.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:13 PM
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Has anyone here read the compulsory heterosexuality masterdoc? it's very fascinating and I think explains a lot of dead bedroom situations or women who date or marry men who fit all of the adjectives they claim to want, and then immediately have the desire to lash out and emotionally abuse these men. It's a symptom of sleeping in the same bed as someone you're disgusted by.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:12 PM
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it is probably a massive cause for concern if the thought of having consensual sex with a man you are attracted to, or the act of doing so is so generally unpleasant to you? I don't fuck with a lot of left wing alphabet soup identity politics, but it literally is just asexuality, clear cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 01:07 PM
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There is a certain hypocrisy in the redpill community where they can't decide whether men have it worse or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 06:57 PM
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Yeah but there will always be a deficit in one gender or the other, one will always be rejecting for sex/commitment more often, so categorizing and arguing which one is doing it more often is still a worth while pursuit, and arguing that it's based on the individual and situational is a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 06:56 PM
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Nah, the taste for variety is exclusive to attractive men. The average man will satite his desire for variety by jerking off to porn of women who don't look like his wife when she's rejects him for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:35 PM
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I wrote it on my break at lunch so I can't really make a thread rn lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:34 PM
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The whole "muh individual experience" is just a cop out, it's the equivalent of flipping the board and refusing to play during chess. Unquestionably one sex will be gatekeeping sex or relationships, or both, more than the other, and saying "muh individual experience" is like refusing to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:33 PM
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Boring take tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:13 PM
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Nah, men get lonelier than women. Settling will always beat dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:12 PM
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Bros before hoes is more like you should choose to drive home your drunk friend rather than fuck some slut at a party, not that you should side with your friends over your wife. It's about prioritizing your same sex platonic friendships over potential relationships with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:11 PM
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Yep, it's a unsolvable issue, unless more than 30% of the male population goes extinct there will always be genetic losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:05 PM
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I think it's the opposit, in terms of you're less attractive the more dense the population is, if you were in hicksville alabama where more than half the population of young men are overweight you'd probably be more likely to be considered more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 05:02 PM
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CMV: Men being "gatekeepers of commitment" is apex fallacy, a small amount of attractive men have high standards for commitment because they have an abundance of options. But average and ugly men are just as, if not more lonely and desperate for non-sexual emotional intimacy as women. And commitment minded average and below will usually lock themselves into a relationship with the first non-crazy average (and I don't mean incel standards of average, I mean overweight frumpy frizzy haired mediocr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:53 PM
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Nah, "men" is too wide, a very small amount of very attractive men gatekeep relationships. But average and ugly men are just as, if not more lonely and desperate for non-sexual emotional intimacy as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:45 PM
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Why would you choose a 50 year old escort over a 20 year old escort if you're not more attracted to 50 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:38 PM
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Being an ugly man doesn't just lower your bargaining power in terms of how pretty the girl you can get is, but also how mentally stable and abusive. The below average but nice/funny girls get snatched up by more attractive men, so you're not just left with ugly girls, but ugly, abusive, and mentally ill. When guys are in abusive relationships more often than not it's literally the best their situation allows them to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:31 PM
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Yeah of course (:
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:29 PM
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i actually had a guy upfront with me- said he only saw me as a sex buddy and that i gave off "hoe vibes." funny enough he said this to me right before i was going to have sex with him. i kicked him out right after that. Probably best not to be upfront then...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 01:14 AM
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i actually had a guy upfront with me- said he only saw me as a sex buddy and that i gave off "hoe vibes." funny enough he said this to me right before i was going to have sex with him. i kicked him out right after that. Probably best not to be upfront then...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:36 PM
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I think it’s hard to be vulnerable and it can go wrong but maybe harder to keep up a hard front at all times, long term? Maybe, but from my perspective keeping that front up seems to be the safest, and really only option...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 09:15 PM
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Life experiences, the same life experiences that would lead you to be guarded around men for your own personal safety. Again, the logic is simple, do something, get a bad result, stop doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:38 PM
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Well, I use fingering loosely to describe hand to genital stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:36 PM
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I understand that I’m just one person and I don’t speak for all women, but I’m also certain I’m not alone among women in feeling this way Yeah but there's not enough women like this to be able to reasonably filter them all out. As well you don't realize but the women who do not like male vulnerability do not always wear it openly, sometimes they don't even really know they don't like it. Like it's less of a concious "I hate emotional men they're pathetic" and more of just a deep gut feeling of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:35 PM
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Because many men have had bad experiences with it lol? If you do something and it has a negative harmful result, you usually try to stop doing it, and even suggest others not do it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:05 PM
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I get this is socially reinforced behaviour I don't think it is, I think humans are social creatures and heterosexual men are hardwired neurologically to want to have sex and form close relationships with women, it's the male biological imperative, and about as close to a real "purpose" as we can get. I think it's only natural for men to kill themselves upon realizing they have no hope of attaining the most important thing to the majority of men who've lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 06:17 PM
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Fingering lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 06:08 PM
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There's not enough, it's not a reasonable standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 06:07 PM
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That's great for you but you're telling the other men in this thread that they're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:21 PM
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I was friends with her brother and got invited to a small get together, got to third base and dated her a few more times before we both decided we wanted to be a thing (I don't even allow relationships to be ambiguous) our one year anniversary is in a couple months.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:19 PM
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Just become an incel bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:15 PM
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I agree, full stalls even in gender segregated bathrooms would be incredible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:14 PM
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You're a nurse?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:12 PM
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You either have more options than the average man or are comparatively more introverted and apathetic towards relationships than the average man so your "solution" doesn't work for average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:11 PM
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Attractive narcissists will always win over average people with a heart of gold* Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:58 PM
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Yeah, also these girls are attracted to asian twinks, not twinks in general. Masculine toned, but not roided dudes will always beat out twinks unless they're competing for 15 year old girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:36 PM
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A good personality can turn a 8/10 dude into a 10/10, but it can't turn a 5/10 into a 10/10. Attractive narcissists will always win over uggos with hearts of gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:35 PM
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It's not that EQ doesn't exist, it's that it isn't measurable and shouldn't be compared to IQ. You can lie on EQ "tests", you can also be a manipulative narcissistic sociopath, and still appear as high EQ, when people usually use the term "high EQ" to describe empathetic altrustists. Yes, there are people who are more socially adept compared to others, but it shouldn't be treated as a quantifiable static thing when it's not quantifiable or static, like IQ is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:31 PM
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You're either in a position where you're more attractive than the average man, or more apathetic towards relationships than the average man. So this sort of way of living your life wouldn't work for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:27 PM
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You're the execption not the rule. If most men spent their time looking for execptions they'd die alone. It's best to try to go for the average girl, not the rare one in a million execption. Also I've had women react negatively to vulnerability who outright have said that they were attracted to vulnerability, so a lot are either lying or just don't know what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:26 PM
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Literally gaslighting men into thinking their life experinces are fake or imagined LOL "I know you say you saw that and experienced it but it's not true"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:24 PM
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To you, what’s the difference between men and women in a loving relationship? It's not "Men shouldn't cry because it's not allowed and it's immoral to cry" it's "Men shouldn't cry because it's dangerous and will destroy their relationships". He's not preaching masculinity as the proper way for men to be, but as a pragmatic solution to real problems. It's not what men should do but what men must do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:23 PM
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Spoken from a position of priviledge and abundance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:21 PM
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But men objectively hold the opinions of women that they're romantically involved with higher than their male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:19 PM
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Mens attraction can be negotiated far more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:15 PM
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There's also more to it than that. Ugly girls want attractive men, some will settle but they'll never be happy. Men don't want to get settled for but ugly girls always settle. With average or above average women you don't have to ask "is she with me because I'm all she can get" because you know that isn't true because you know she has options.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:11 PM
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Women on here insist that men have two seperate sets of attraction, one is attractive enough to fuck and the other is attractive enough to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:09 PM
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Yeah I've been saying this for a long time, it literally seems like something to make people feel better about themselves. Also it's not static like IQ is, EQ tests can be lied on unlike IQ tests. I was just pointing out that it's ironic people associate high EQ with empathy and altruism when by definition for someone to be a successful manipulator they'd HAVE to be high EQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:07 PM
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Doomp eet
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:00 PM
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Most successful manipulators would be described as high EQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:59 PM
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It's a debate subreddit lol, the whole point of the subreddit is debating useless shit that means nothing outside of this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 01:12 PM
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Or, I saw an example once where a guy took a girl back to his and had a friend hide under the bed, had sex and then when they were going to go a second time either had the lights really dark or girl blindfolded and the other guy came out and had sex with her, pretending to be the first guy. Yeah that's the legal definition which is really different, I'm only talking about lying in terms of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:15 PM
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It's a sentiment a lot of people actually agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 01:12 PM
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How do you guys feel about rape by deception/rape by fraud, not the actual real legal version of it that exists, but the concept that lying or omitting information makes sex non-consensual and thus rape? The only execption I can think of where I agree with this is STDs or contraception. But I've seen people include basically literally any lie, there was a really good twitter thread on this I posted a while back in one if the megathreads but I couldn't find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 11:59 AM
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there are ways of knowing whether or not he is genuine before you reject him That's the point, for the guys who aren't going to lash out being nice is just as bad of a strategy as the ones who will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:32 PM
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Oh, right. But the main argument is that those are "kinky" women, or aren't actually women and just men setting their profile as female, and that it's not representative of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:54 AM
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no, it’s not just that. it’s that the faux nice ones come already expecting something from you as “payment” for them being nice to you It's the exact same thing as the authentically nice guy he's just smart enough to realize lashing out isn't going to do him any good lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:53 AM
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This doesn't really answer my question as eating pussy and "hardcore" porn aren't mutually exclusive and a lot of the stuff women look for can be present in videos containing the stuff they complain about. Also it's 2020 and I find it hard to believe guys aren't going down on a girl because it's not featured in the porn they watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:47 AM
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But the point is that the genuine authetically nice guys are still going to get treated just as bad, and be just as unattractive as the faux nice schemers. The only difference between the faux nice and authentic nice is one lashes out verbally once there's no chance of any romantic relationship forming, and the other slinks away with their tail between their legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:45 AM
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Q4Women: What exactly do you mean by "hardcore" porn? I'm relatively young, but originally hardcore just meant more nudity and shown penetration than softcore which usually left a lot more to the imagination. Do you mean like, hitting and slapping and being thrown around/choked? Because if so I'm confused as to how it's heavily promoted and as prevalent as you say. I exclusively use incognito to browse porn (even though I don't live with anyone and don't share my computer lol) so I always get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:43 AM
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Yeah, but the issue is men would be just as likely to make fun of fat as fuck men as well, because ultimately it's a choice and an indicator of a lack of self control. Back when fatpeoplehate existed it didn't exclusively focus on women. Versus height, which is literally unfixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:52 AM
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Faux nice guys and genuinely nice guys are identical right up until the point of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:49 AM
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"Just be yourself and be nice" is bad advise for getting a relationship, not just for getting laid. More often than not they're not asking their parents how to get NSA sex but a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:19 AM
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So then it's more or less a non factor if it makes that little of a difference to counteract other societal woes that contribute to suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 02:07 PM
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How can we measure the decline of masculine stoicism? By opening your eyes and looking around is, is that a joke? Are you arguing that american society has harsher standards of masculinity now than in the 1960s? Or 1980s? there are countries with far better suicide rates than the US and a lot of them have more egalitarian views on dating (that kind of has correlation with less toxic approach towards masculinity) Yes but we should be seeing some sort of decline of suicide rates in the US with sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:54 PM
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Well, sorry I speak from a western standard. Are you arguing that in the US the standards of masculinity are higher now than 40 or 50 years prior?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:45 PM
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Reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:20 PM
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If toxic masculinity is such a decisive factor in male suicide, then why has male suicide not declined along side the standard of masculine stoicism, which is arguably weaker now than it's been for the last 100 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:18 PM
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The problem with this argument is it pre-assumes these men can get women without TRP techniques. So you've got a choice between the women who TRP techniques work on and nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:14 PM
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You don't consider any of thess things to be a factor in your rejections?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:13 PM
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She claimed to be normal, and that her being ugly or weird couldn't be the reason for her to get rejected, clearly that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:10 PM
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I can tell you though visceral loathing for men is something that can scare away even the most desperate simp. Guys know that if you loathe men, they won't be the execption. And you can usually detect resentment it's not hard as I doubt you're ashamed of any of these points so I'm sure you do nothing at all to try to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:08 PM
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That's breaking off a relationship after it's began because redflags appear. Totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 01:06 PM
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The big issue is plenty of progressive liberated women want big strong masculine men as much as tradcons do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:27 PM
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This is the fundemental difference between male loneliness and female loneliness. Female loneliness is being surrounded by people and not feeling understood where as male loneliness is total isolation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 12:21 PM
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Where were you 5 years ago?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:58 AM
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It's half and half. A woman who's a virgin should have been into monogamy enough to have settled down before the age of 25, it's a huge redflag. A 18 or 20 year old virgin can just be insecure, but at 25 it's likely she has some tremendous hangups, or is just an asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:57 AM
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But it's objectively true, I can have gay friends, but know full well that the thing that is going to hurt the feelings of a gay person the most is being homophobic. So would you be wrong to automatically assume I hate gay people? I don't think you would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:54 AM
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It's not a good or bad thing lol. But the difficulty of obtaining sex, even for the very attractive outweighs the percieved immorality of it. You also have to remember it's women choosing not to exclude high N men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:51 AM
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Exactly back to my original hypothesis is that the trans thing has instead of giving you the ability to switch between our two gender identities it's just created a mirror "special" set of the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:01 PM
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But by seperating them from men, they're being transphobic, it's a lose lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 09:33 PM
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Yeah, because ultimately by progressive values it's transphobic to seperate trans people from their cis counterparts. Basically it's like saying You're not a man, you're a woman Vs You're not a man, you're a trans man And I think that's the direction western society is going, where we won't consider trans people (who can't pass as cisgendered) to be their biological sex, but we will consider them to be a seperate "special" version of cisgendered people. So, categorizing people by Men, Women, Tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 06:11 PM
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Trans men are viewed by non-terf radical feminists as women-lite. Otherwise they'd not be excluded from the phrase "I hate all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:20 PM
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It all comes down to doing something that you seriously do not want to do. do you think men can't have reasons to not want to cuddle outside of withholding it as punishment? Because a lot of the same reasons to not want to have sex I.E. (Bad day at work, headache, you did something that pissed me off, you forgot to do a chore etc). And also the same logic, even if the reason for you not wanting to cuddle is she did something you didn't like, it follows the usual logic of the reason not being a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:25 PM
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100% appropriate to stab someone who sexually assaulted you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:14 PM
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The primary question is "should a man withholding non-sexual physical intimacy be considered as bad as a woman withholding sexual intimacy". Also in that hypothetical it's not rape, there's no pressure, outside of financial pressure, not to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:49 PM
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Sex is a big deal if it means fucking a man you think is repulsive and you're not attracted to them. A man who you're already into so much that you literally married them, but are just temporarily not in the mood due to current circumstance is totally different from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:59 PM
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So if a guy wasn't really into you but viewed infidelity on par with like murder or cannibalism (I.E. he won't cheat on you) you'd be okay with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:08 PM
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It's mentally more gratifying and fufilling. I know this is a controversial opinion a lot of TERPs hate, but a lot of mens desire for sex is validation, but not in the way you're thinking of wanting your buddies to pat you on the back, but more wanting undeniable and absolute proof a woman IS attracted to you. And there isn't really any way to have that proof without a woman having sex with you. It's the real reason so many lonely men don't get prostitutes or escorts, they don't want sex, they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:05 PM
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What? I'm sorry but I legitimately thought you were in your 50s. Not even meaning this a insult at all, it's just your writing style and arguments give off strong boomer vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:59 PM
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The issue is that it's morally repugnant then, not that it's physically uncomfortable so again it's false equivalence. Arguably having sex with someone is more so considered cheating than cuddling, but plenty of people would end a relationship if they knew their s/o was cuddling with other people especially in a romantic context. So counter hypothetical: If you had a absolutely horrendous day at work and were incredibly irritated and on edge (not with your husband but just in a general sense) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:55 PM
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Yeah, but this is somebody you're supposed to be attracted to. Are you saying women are as unattracted to men they're literally fucking married to, as a heterosexual man is another man? If that's the case then they never should have gotten married to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 04:06 PM
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Chad can be a deadbeat, being a deadbeat however doesn't make you chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:23 PM
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Pining to BE the mythical father. I.E. someone attractive and charming enough to do horrendous things and suffer no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:22 PM
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Maybe, but there are limits to this. If you were a very attractive man punching waaay down in terms of LTRs, you could still be attractive to an uggo woman even if you were a tremendous whimpering beta. Base physical attraction can conquer failures of personality, even if those failures are about weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:20 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:32 PM
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Right? But you'd be surprised how not curious girls are. Which I interpret as a side effect of a very very low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:41 PM
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I guess not, but plenty of people don't consider 18 year olds to be adolescents
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:15 PM
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Senior year is worringly late.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:08 PM
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Hugely underrated red flag for women: If she didn't masturbate in her adolescence. Like, if she started in senior year of high school, or any later than that you're in for a bad time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:56 PM
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If it's a one off sure, if it's a continuous thing, the question for the person getting rejected changes to "Is my partner not in the mood for sex, or are they not in the mood for sex with me?" It's not unreasonable to want to date someone who's attracted to you, and end relationships with people who aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:44 PM
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The woman is mentally ill and does not actually want a nice guy, she wants a guy who treats her like shit If you were to filter out women like this you'd be reducing your dating pool to virtually nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:20 PM
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Shits just not healthy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:01 PM
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I am a red headed man and it sucks dick. I literally saw immediate improvements when I started dying my hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:32 PM
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Certainly, again though, I'm not talking about slovenly pigs/hoarders. Just women who are slightly messier than the guys they're dating, because guys are just more forgiving of that. How many stories of men divorcing their wives after leaving dishes in the sink too many times, or clothes on the floor? Men can get mad but not furious resentment levels of anger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:29 PM
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Nah, she'd be jealous. Remember when he found the half blood prince book, and beat her in the little faux potion competition? And rather than being happy for her friend for succeeding she was furious that she didn't show everyone up? She'd indefinitely live in his shadow if they got together and forever be Harry Potter's wife rather than who she really was.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:27 PM
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Self hating ones, which unfortunately seem to be in abundance these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:24 PM
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Some women are funny, and some women are funny in a tragic sort of laughing at them not with them way, like Trisha Paytas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:23 PM
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Definitely, and a lot of them are like, decorated veterans of this community, not gonna name names but a few people here literally read the title and that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:20 PM
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I've said it once and I'll say it again, date a girl who has a lower standard of cleanliness than you do. Not a slovenly pig, but just lower relative to you. And if the only girl who would have a lower standard of cleanliness would be a slovely pig then work on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:18 PM
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So you feel like average men get better more rewarding relationships with their female counterpart than vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 11:51 AM
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Who has an easier time getting a relationship, an average man or a below average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 05:03 PM
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It's a thing plenty of men feel, but women many times refuse to believe exists. It's one of those "lived experiences" situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:50 PM
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I wouldn't, I've already got a very low bar for what I'm capable of being attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:48 PM
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A lot of the girls I've dated barring my current GF have been emotionally distant and victims of sexual abuse, usually childhood sexual abuse. These are the girls who are either the most into me or the most receptive to what I'm putting out. I have no clue what conclusion to draw other than that I should have learned my lesson much sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:10 PM
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Not totally red but I'm 80% sure my mother cheated on my father, I know for a fact my sister as cheated on exes before, ontop of the fact that she would make the bloop women on this subreddit look like moderates in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 01:20 PM
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Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 11:47 PM
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Young ugly women generally prefer being alone to dating young ugly men. They bury themselves in their hobbies and platonic female relationships and generally can cope with loneliness greatly. There's this weird myth that there is this huge surplus of good intentioned ugly girls with great personalities just waiting to be given the chance, and the only thing holding them back is mens physical standards for LTRs, but that's a myth, it's not real, they do not exist. There are virtually no truly lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:04 PM
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If porn was loving and gentle, sure. Unfortunately, those are so rare as to be hard to find How much porn do you actually watch, genuinely? Because most porn I see is just regular sex being filmed, the only severe difference is that you prefer positions that are more filmable, I've never got this argument that 90% of porn is women being choked or tied up or jackhammered until they cried or choked on some dudes dick, that's a seperate category of porn and isn't on every front page you see.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:49 PM
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Human beings have evolved past the need to pay for porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:46 PM
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There's no proof they were ever capable of getting these women to begin with though? So for plenty of these men they've gone from no pussy to mentally ill pussy. Seems like a improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:44 PM
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I feel like it may fall off as the market becomes so incredibly oversaturated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:41 PM
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Well they love chad within 15 minutes of meeting him lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:40 PM
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I feel like it's going to become a whole new reason to divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:34 PM
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Congrats dude (:
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:45 PM
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Vibe is just frame lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:45 PM
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https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1376359247647232006?s=19 So many dudes getting mercilessly cucked these days. W For being self respecting enough to actually get out of that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:45 PM
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It's bittersweet. I'm not a very attractive dude and I've been dumped for shitty reasons and then had girls try to get back with me. It doesn't feel as good as you would imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 02:04 PM
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But why does that matter if the non-promiscous woman you're dating doesn't give a shit? Like many MANY low N and virgin women I've met, including the religious ones. Why say "No! I will not date you because I'm not up to the standard that you're not holding me to" lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 05:20 PM
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I don't know, honestly I think a fat unattractive woman over 30 with kids would probably make most men as miserable, if not more miserable than the woman you described, provided she is none of the things you listed at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 05:15 PM
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Barring a very miniscule of norman bates mom type of jealous moms, virtually all women are decidedly team women, this includes their sons, nephews, cousins, and little brothers. They will put the comfort happiness and security of women they've never met, nor will ever meet above the happiness of their sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:31 PM
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Yes, but not everyone is a shrewd stern business person lol. Whatever happened to "just be yourself"? Does that not apply with your children?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:24 PM
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Yeah, they're just shit at their job lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:18 PM
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A pickme is just any woman who breaks rank with what you want. They're scabs crossing the pussy picket line by having standards that don't match your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 12:02 PM
1

Pete Davidson is rumored to have an 8 inch dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:55 AM
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In the US statistically the average man is overweight lol, and 5"8 or 5"7 is the national average I believe, and both of those are waaaay below what women are willing to go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:54 AM
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It's not ugly people don't date, it's that there is no such thing as a surplus of lonely ugly women. Ontop of that this is usually a result poverty and poorer white folks having more conservative views on dating. You don't see many young ugly middle class or upper middle class couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 06:05 PM
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Ugly women prefer being alone and burying themselves in their hobbies over dating ugly men they're not attracted to. As well being ugly doesn't magically make your pussy wet for guys who are average. And ontop of that women just handle solitude better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:23 PM
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Guys without criminal records are done for
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 05:21 PM
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But having the internet and computers is very common for basically all poor people born in the US after the mid 90s? I know plenty of poor people from certified ghettos who have the latest iPhone and a ps5? I think your vision of poverty is kind of outdated or inaccurate to life in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 06:40 PM
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incels tend to be middle to upper class Since when? Do you think that being impoverished just magically grants you game lol? I can say having been on a few incel forums before they migrated to reddit that plenty of them lived paycheck to paycheck working 40 hours a week. The term "wageslave" basically originated on incel forums as a self descriptive term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/21 02:01 PM
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Wait so no reposting other peoples violent content from an entirely different platform or no threatening people?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 01:47 AM
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You're as likely to be able to pick out a "malicious woman" out of a group of women as you are to pick out a rapist out of a group of men. What does it hurt to he cautious? Genuinely. If anything by refusing to be alone with women you don't know well you're only making their situation safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:21 PM
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Okay, I can agree with that. But considering that the stakes are high it still seems like it's worth being cautious about. Even if the odds are low, if it does happen things are unlikely to end well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:13 PM
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The correlation is the same thing, according to you we live in a just world so only bad people have to worry about getting accused just like bad people with things to hide are the only people who have to worry about government surveillance. It's the same principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:07 PM
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Since sexuality contains the word SEX, isn't it more likely SEXuality would mean that biological sex isn't a non-important factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 05:23 PM
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Seems very just world fallacy-ie. Are you also okay with government surveillance because you have nothing to hide if you've done nothing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 05:17 PM
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Still good to know what you're getting yourself into. Also "that caliber of guy" would range from unattractive to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 05:10 PM
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Ugly girls are dangerous because they're always settling, not necessarily settling for less than they can reasonably get, but less than what they want. And when a better opportunity comes by they have absolutely not incentive to jump ship. Especially considering a lot of less attractive women crave male attention, but what people don't understand is that they do not want to be seen as attractive by A man, they want to be seen as attractive by MEN, widely. Basically the threshold of attractive en…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 04:02 PM
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Hahahaha, I love this!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:28 PM
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Yeah but it only shows you're insecure if you get caught in the lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 07:19 PM
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Legolas Orlando Bloom is a traditionally masculine attractive dude, who dressed up in a costume where he had pale skin and no facial hair, but that was the extent to the feminine androgynous aspects of his appearance. Justin Bieber Attracted to by pre-pubescent girls, I didn't see any adult women talking about how they wanted to fuck this 14 year old boy. Kaulitzses Not really mainstream and pretty niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:21 PM
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and moves on to someone who will be exclusive with her. And then proceeds to resent them and treats them like shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:17 PM
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A chad doesn't have to decieve, he's so attractive that even if he fucked you and never saw you again, you'd not feel like you were conned or had one pulled over on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:13 PM
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Plenty of bad people exist everywhere, you don't date heterosexual women so you have absolutely no idea what kinds of bad women exist. Good men will respect boundaries, but abandon the relationship and look for a woman who likes them enough that they don't need to set harsh boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:21 PM
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This is actually why my number one priority when trying to date a woman is whether or not she actually likes me and actively wants to have sex with me, far above anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 04:18 PM
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Idk, take it with a grain of salt I really don't go to these communities THAT much, but think, most TRP dudes do not like monogamous relationships and don't approve of them, most RPW are looking for monogamous relationships, so most RPW would avoid dating TRP guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:38 PM
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They're both are very vaguely right wing, but they have very different goals, so I don't think they have that much overlap, also imho RPW is kind of a dead community.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:35 PM
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Well, to be fair RPW and TRP are very different, arguably a lot of the women on RPW would probably tell them not to date TRP dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:31 PM
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Why would you listen to TRP if you're a woman LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:25 PM
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o if women were being honest and the guy still couldn’t get them off, would he be happy? Because she was honest? Not happy persay, but happier. Also if he's doing something wrong than he can try something different to get her off, and if it's not something he will ever be capable of doing regardless of effort than he can end the relationship and look for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:11 PM
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It upsets men because it's insulting, by faking your orgasam you're saying we're too weak to handle the truth. Would you be happy if a man said "I lied to not hurt your feelings"? Also it implies a lack of communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:19 PM
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The senate were the real monsters. Julius and Augustus were heros.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 07:00 PM
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Yeah I think George Lincoln Rockwell literally used the phrase social justice in one of his speeches once lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:37 PM
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So men don't deny that supermodels have an easier time lol, the problem is the lie
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 04:13 PM
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There's always a ceiling though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:37 PM
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The article isn't arguing about what trans women need to do it's arguing what cis straight men need to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:34 PM
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I'm not arguing that ONLY chads can get girls, I'm arguing that women greatly downplay the advantage that these sort of men have, and argue that "good personalities" or some other beta bullshit is better when it's not. I'm not saying non-chad men can't succeed or that it's even unlikely for them to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:33 PM
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They 100% do lol, look at how many women claim that size doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:26 PM
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It’s old school girl game - don’t let him make you his secret fuck. If he wants to stick it in, he has to date you properly Yeah but this isn't "trans women, don't settle for men who are ashamed of fucking you" it's "men, you need to stop being ashamed of fucking trans women"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:25 PM
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Legitimately, for the opposite sex it's whatever you want, and for the same sex it's somebody with a similar world view to you, atleast that's what people say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:32 PM
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https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/transgender-dating_ca_5de12effe4b0d50f32a106a4 I thought that saying anyone "deserved" love was certified incel talk?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:31 PM
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So you're hyper sexual, but not actually attracted to anyone? You can understand where I'm coming from if I say that's a bit strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 07:36 PM
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Yikes! Have you ever considered specifically pursuing men with low/non-existent libidos? That way you and him could like each other for similar reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 07:01 PM
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Do the men you're dating know you're not attracted to them at all what so ever?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:52 PM
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I've never been attracted to a partner Is this a typo? If you've never actually genuinely been attracted to someone you date why bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:12 PM
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Appropriating gay culture is homophobic, you're stealing from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:36 PM
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Because it's gay. It's an appropriation of gay culture to stick things in my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:34 PM
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"Tell your mom to post more anal vids"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:32 PM
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You said men deny themselves pleasure? But plenty homosexual men don't deny themselves that pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:30 PM
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You don't consider homosexual men to be "men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 09:26 PM
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Right? I literally have never met a guy into that under the age of like 31. It's so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:48 PM
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Yeah it's exclusively held up today by Gen X dinosaurs it's so weird for me to hear them act like it's still the standard young women have to attain
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:39 PM
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Wow, I wasn't expecting to ever agree with you this much, weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:36 PM
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But taking it in the ass makes you gay, right...? Unironically yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 08:35 PM
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Very, honestly I don't like messes but I can't really imagine myself berating my girlfriend over not doing the dishes when it was her turn or not throwing her clothes in the laundry hamper. Honestly I think the dating meta should be to date a woman with lower standards of cleanliness than you. Of course this won't work for men who are slovenly pigs, in which case the best advice would be to not be a slovenly pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:22 PM
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It's things like this that make me incredibly glad to be the cleaner person in my relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 08:18 PM
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But then don’t go by me, that (dumping by text) could be a common thing among your generation for all I know. Have to chime in as a young person, I've heard quite a few girls say they would much rather be dumped via text or phone call versus in person. Generally to avoid the humiliation of crying infront of someone/in a public place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:39 PM
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Hinge and Bumble are literally DATING, apps, not hookup apps. And even still, just hold out on sex if they're so terrified of being pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:28 PM
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It depends on the boundaries set by their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:21 PM
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Being "tough" but facially hideous and autistic isn't going to get you pussy lol. I'm sure plenty of brutal conquerers or war heros of the past weren't casanovas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 06:16 PM
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Women already do this with the degree of caution they take with their own personal safety, and barring a few incels most people have absolutely no issue with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:53 PM
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The definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing and expecting a different outcome. The majority of men who refuse to be emotional with women have been rebuked by women in the past and refuse to make the same mistake, it's very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:49 PM
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. I personally hate the constant vagina close ups - I think this is just something where heterosexual men and women will always disagree lol, with the exception of the """""straight""""" guys who don't like how vaginas look.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 06:10 PM
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I suppose, it's more I'd rather watch porn with women who I can't tell are porn stars from a mile away. And the high production value just feels gross and fake on a fundemental level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:12 PM
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Anyone else noticed that the few women who do watch porn usually prefer the high budget (unrealistic) studio stuff to amateur? I find it kinda weird that men are more desperate for authenticity in porn than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 03:54 PM
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Be emotional, excluding fear anxiety and sadness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 03:53 PM
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I mean you saying "Oh I totally don't care about men being masculine" is great for you, but like, literally every woman I've known has proven the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:29 PM
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It's someone elses cross to bare lol, if you want those standards to go away encourage women not to reward men who meet those standards, idk what else to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:26 PM
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plus as a girl As one girl, vs literally all of my life experiences that go against what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:25 PM
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I don't think so, I think those men who "rebel" will end up alone and wasting their lives for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:22 PM
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So men should just intentionally make their life shittier to get rid of "toxic masculinity"? C'mon bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:19 PM
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Men shouldn't be expected to stop doing these things until society stops having the expectation of them to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 08:07 PM
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A social construct that men are objectively punished by women for not following. So sure, it can be a social construct, but this is kind of a moot point to most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 05:12 PM
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Yeah but only a total psychopath actually loses interest in someone because they show vulnerability in these areas. See, I can't agree. Because for most women I've seen who have experienced disgust as a reaction to vulnerability, it's a very visceral deep gut reaction, and a lot of them are confused about why they feel this way, and even sometimes ashamed or guilty. But however confused or guilty you feel that can't bring back the attraction that you've lost for that person. It's not that women …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 02:43 PM
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It's not an excuse it's just an acceptance of the game you play lol. If you'd like to opt out then all power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 07:06 PM
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You have to learn to deal with the world as it is, not as it should be
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 06:54 PM
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OH yeah, that part was good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:43 PM
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Well the movie was really good, the child actors were like, legendary, I don't think I've ever seen better, but the ending was just like, weird as hell and kinda amateurish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:41 PM
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Certainly, that's the crux of the argument, even if these women who love vulnerability exist, who has the time options or luck to find them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:34 PM
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Other women don’t and prefer a bit of softness. There are also women who want that on a superficial level, right? Like, I suppose saying ALL vulnerability is bad is a bit much, because technically simply telling a girl you love her is vulnerable, if you're apart telling her you miss her is vulnerable, lots of very small things like this could be vulnerable, or "soft". I'm referring more to shows of weakness, sadness, fear, uncertainty. I think there's a good portion of women okay with the surfac…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:32 PM
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Yeah pretty much, it's still toleration, also there are women who are okay with it, but the issue is you functionally can't tell these women apart from the women who can't tolerate it, or will lose feelings when seeing it. The time investment makes the risk not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:27 PM
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Sure but the mistake that you are repeating is believing that all women are the same They aren't, women who tolerate vulnerability exist, I'm not denying that, but you don't know who these women are until you're vulnerable around them, and then by that point you've usually invested too much time in the relationship to take such a risk. And even when you have actual women telling you, no that's not true I've literally seen women react extremely negatively to justifiable vulnerability, the kind of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:25 PM
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What neediness am I railing against? The thread is not about whether you should or should not be vulnerable, it's about the fact that most men who choose not to be make that decision based on their life decisions and the amount of time they reasonably have left to find a good relationship. If they can’t deal, it wasn’t meant to be. Don’t just withhold yourself because you’re afraid a woman may not like it, that’s how you get angry repressed men who engage in deceit about their self-image. The re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:21 PM
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Nope, neither are good. Vulnerability is dangerous regardless of how good the excuse is, if a man has witnessed this himself with his own two eyes he shouldn't be expected to keep doing something he knows is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:55 PM
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If you're not ready to keep your vulnerabilities with you to the grave don't even bother hoping for an organic and healthy relationship. Well then that seems to be the issue here. An inability to successfully keep your vulnerabilities in, conquer that and you'd win.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:54 PM
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Yes, but I'm arguing both put you at risk of destroying the relationship. How reasonable and excusable a mans vulnerability is, is ultimately irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:52 PM
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Okay, I'm saying both are bad. I've seen open unambiguous vulnerability have serious consequences in the past, why should I assume it won't in the future. You do know the meaning of insanity right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:50 PM
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At the same time, unless we take that fall, we'll never know. For me it's a baby with the bath water situation, I don't consider relationships to be worthless without reciprocal vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:48 PM
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Life can be disappointing, can't it? Sometimes you just lack the negotiating power to get something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:43 PM
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Oh, sure, but I had to paint an accurate picture for people. The point I was making was in this situation it wasn't blatantly obvious she was going to react that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:41 PM
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Yes. But even when you're attractive, to some extent you're playing with fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:45 AM
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Yeah, I'm playing devils advocate a lot here. The CMV part of this isn't women who accept vulnerability do/don't exist, the CMV is whether or not finding these women is easy and worth the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:44 AM
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How am I not arguing for that? I personally feel vulnerability isn't worth the risk of destroying your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:32 AM
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But it seems like with all the complaining that's being done here, men want to be emotionally vulnerable. That's the issue, they want something they risk searching their entire lives to find. RP men love to harp on about the wall but I honestly doubt 30+ men have as good of relationship prospects as they insist. The reality is the amount of women the average man can go through isn't as big as you think, and the amount of time we have isn't much. Average and ugly men need to decide, would you rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:28 AM
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A pretty common BP archetype is the reason why RP men, or any men for that matter, have bad experiences with women is because those women were really shitty, immoral, just awful women, who were hot. It's a sort of clever inversion of the hot sociopathic bad boy. I'm making this point to show that she was by every single account the kind of person you would peg to be okay with vulnerability, no glaring obvious red flags what so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:24 AM
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Not him of course but Death of a loved one Death of a pet Uncertainty of job security Fearing for the safety of a loved one (be it mutual or not mutual) If it's reciprocal, feelings of physical inadequacy, I've dated girls who would whine about not feeling like they're pretty enough for me, sometimes simply being spurred on by seeing a prettier girl in media, even though they were physically out of my league, and I was intimately aware I'd not be able to get away with saying something similar to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:17 AM
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I appreciate your honesty with #2 in saying or might be unable to get a relationship at all Of course in my honest opinion this isn't a "might" situation and more like a "probably" situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:09 AM
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Nah, it doesn't have to be continous and constant whining. Just one moment of vulnerability is enough to puncture the veneer. All this talk of "balance" is just world horse shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:06 AM
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Right, the issue is you can't know who's who for sure, and sometimes the relationship is good enough that it isn't worth the risk, I'll save my vulnerability for when I'm geriatric and dementia ridden.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 04:01 AM
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redpills always black and white things that are way too over-complex for such contrast. It's not black and white, but it's simply about managing risk, the amount of time a man spends in a relationship to earn the right to be vulnerable, regardless of circumstance, is too long to afford to risk destroying that relationship by being vulnerable. Let's say a man has a really good relationship with a girl, gets along with her great, super compatible, otherwise looking like a great LTR, "the one", or …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:59 AM
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The Florida Project Dude that ending sucked, I think his reasoning for crying may have been different to what you think LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:49 AM
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Because vulnerability is the only way to have a genuine connection with another person. This goes back to my OP, these relationships can be good, but have the flaw of a lack of vulnerability, so it's a judgement call if it's better to be alone or have a flawed relationship. And a lot of the time you have to make a decision because your window of opportunity to have a good relationship is finite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:48 AM
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Who are you responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 03:24 AM
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I don't give a fuck what people on PPD say, for obvious reasons. You can ignore what I say, since we're just trading anecdote notes anyway. But I'll just say "What people say on PPD is not all of reality." Alright, to be honest I want to disagree with this but I don't LOL. I still am making the point that most women even those who prefer vulnerability won't accept it 6 months. I'm using allegedly pro-vulnerability PPD women as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 01:04 AM
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No, I've been condescended and for saying I'm not going to avoid expressing noteworthy vulnerability in a relationship. And been told the experiences that inform that decision were either lies or misinterpretations (all by people who weren't there, mind you lol). By noteworthy I mean, for example I had to bury 3 dogs over the timespan of a year and a half, and I obviously didn't pretend it wasn't a bad thing or that I didn't care at all, or that it simply didn't matter, but for me, the extent of…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 01:01 AM
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I'm not arguing to abstain from relationships I'm arguing to abstain from vulnerability, the like, I'm sad/insecure/afraid/impotently frustrated kind of vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:54 AM
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Nope this is bullshit. If you're arguing that I, or other men should pursue women okay with vulnerability in the first 6 months of a relationship, then that's delusional and unrealistic. Even on PPD the women who are okay will with male vulnerability, and prefer it, will still argue you a good reason, and you need to have been in a relationship for long enough for them to be comfortable with it, and the amount of women comfortable with that in the first 6 months is functionally non-existent, uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:53 AM
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In any case, I think how your vulnerability is expressed is a bigger factor in how someone views it over just the act of expressing it. Just my own experience in life, which, as usual, looks very unfamiliar to the issues "most men" face according to PPD... Fair enough, I'm not arguing that you, or any man who wants to be vulnerable shouldn't. I'm arguing that men who make a judgement call to hide vulnerability indefinitely in a relationship shouldn't be condescended or treated like liars. I feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:38 AM
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External vulnerability women like. Guy gets misty eyed at a sad movie, his parents anniversary wedding speech. Aaaw, what a sensitive guy. Internal vulnerability women don't like. Guy is insecure about his ability, future, the woman's feelings for him. Women go yikes, at least if it's early on in the relationship Yeah and I've seen negative reactions to both, early and late in the relationship. Why should I continuing doing something to myself I know has had negative consequences when I can just…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:36 AM
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So is it impossible for women to not be okay with male vulnerability? Is it always a just world, where the good hard workers triumph and get their great relationship and the lazy bad people suffer in isolation?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:34 AM
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I'm male, and I more or less agree with what you're saying. I'm saying these women are bad apples for the sake of argument because I'm not interested in arguing if most women hate or tolerate vulnerability, that conversation feels fruitless to me, atleast it does posted here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:33 AM
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I think so, I was good friends with him long before they met or dated, I feel like his reasons for being upset were fairly justified, and she herself reneged on the view that he was whining when she was older, and personally admitted to mistreating him, it's not just me saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:21 AM
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If you want to tolerate male vulnerability please be my guest, but it's cruel to expect men to be vulnerable when they've been punished in the past for it. If you're fine with vulnerability, why should every man assume every woman is like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:10 AM
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Even your anecdote was after repeated and prolonged "vulnerability" that she considered to be whining Not quite, let me quote myself when he confided in her one too many times one too many times one And sorry if I misused the phrase "one too many" which I thought to mean one time was too many, I.E. one sting from a cobra is one too many to kill you. But the anecdote is that he confided once and never again, and it was still enough to be considered gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:08 AM
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by no means is worth for a man to open up his feelings with his partner even if he is in a deep LTR I'm not arguing you should, I'm arguing more so that you can't screen for vulnerability tolerating women early on, because even the women who do, theoretically tolerate vulnerability, aren't going to tolerate it 6 months in. The BP argument is men can be vulnerable, but there's a time and a place, and that time is usually multiple YEARs into the relationship, which is too much time investment for …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 12:01 AM
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this all seem like dudes are completely misreading their whining and woe is me rants for "vulnerability". That, or they started crying in the middle of a fight and go all Pikachu faced when their chick doesn't give a shit. Yeah, I'm not talking about whining, I'm talking about things being bad enough that you would consider them being, at least on a logical and moral level, "justified" in their upsetness. You just have to be a man in that super boomery stacking bodies in Vietnam sense, so there …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:40 PM
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I really feel like when you all talk about "feelings" you mean "loser woe is me sadsack depression self pity" not "I was sad my parent died" I can't speak for anyone aside from myself. But I don't expect women to be okay with men whining lol. But I also know dudes who have been punished for expressions of vulnerability that fall under the purview of what you've described as acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:35 PM
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Usually death of a loved one, or pet, but it can also include general expressions of percieved inadequacy, I'd say I have less sympathy for that just because it should be obvious to keep your mouth shut about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:20 PM
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What's the logical flaw? That they're hypocritical? If they're not hypocrites is it still illogical to not show vulnerability?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:18 PM
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Okay, I don't disagree, but that still doesn't counter what I've said. Even if these men are hypocrites, ultimately, they're using their own life experiences to help avoid being hurt while also not excluding themselves from relationships entirely. It's only emotional pain they're avoiding instead of rape/murder, which obviously it goes without saying is unfathomably worse in every possible way. But still it's unfair to get mad at people for using previous life experiences to help them avoid gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:08 PM
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Obviously the best option is to talk it out with someone... that's apparently not your GF/Wife??? Unironically. Either that or some kind of meditation deep introspection kind of shit and somehow fix it alone, but more likely what you said. This isn't me saying this is fair or pleasant, but in my personal experience this is the way the game is played.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:06 PM
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That's not toleration though, even though she's "fine" with it you'd still suffer consequences. Whether you're being DB'd or dumped, what's the big difference here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:04 PM
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Yeah, the whole entire argument on both sides is completely anecdotal, I mentioned that in my post...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:03 PM
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Not true at all? Women take precautions for their personal safety based on the actions of a few men, and I totally support them doing so. I'm just doing that in regards to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 11:02 PM
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Relationships can still be fufilling with the absence of expressions of vulnerability though, so that feels unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:53 PM
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Ah but it's a false dichotomy, either express vulnerability TO your s/o, or don't express it at all? That seems to eliminate any possibility of ACTUALLY dealing with your problems alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:53 PM
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No, but as well the women who were low maintenance and preferred softer more feminine men, also did not tolerate weakness or vulnerable emotions (FYI I think emotion is a bad way to describe it, emotions barring the vulnerable ones are attractive to most women). So it's a toss up, yes a woman who's all talking about how men ain't shit is 100% not going to be okay with you crying, but just as easily women who do not fit that description can also be not okay with you crying, albeit on a deeper, mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:51 PM
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That's wonderful that you feel that way, but I'm making a risk based assessment and saying that it's better to take the money and run with a relationship that is good in every aspect execpt for ability to be vulnerable, and accept that as a unknown. For me, Ideally I'd want a woman who you earnestly believe is okay with you being vulnerable, but then never EVER test that theory out under any circumstances. Which is what I pretty much have with my current girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:47 PM
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I'm male. Are you asking me why women should tolerate healthy traits? I don't think I'm qualified to answer that if you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:43 PM
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The woman I knew who hated male vulnerability wasn't attractive at all. And I've dated less attractive and more attractive women, the less attractive ones were not any nicer at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:42 PM
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Where are those stone-cold women who hate vulnerable men? Re-read my post, they're not stone-cold, at least not by choice. I've never even met these "I hate men and I'm not afraid to admit it" women in person, all of the women I've personally known to have disdain for vulnerability have claimed to be the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:42 PM
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I actually agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:39 PM
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It’s pretty easy Is she high maintenance/generally demanding? Is your strength and masculinity a big deal to her? But my personal life experiences go 100% against what you just said. And I have reason to doubt I'm the only one who feels that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:39 PM
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Ah, good one haha, the kind of masculinity that comes to mind when you hear me say what I said, that kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:12 PM
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Not arguing it's bad. I've just learned to deal with my problens and far far away from the eyes of others. So, I.E. traditional masculinity LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 10:05 PM
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It's not, I've witnessed negative reactions to male vulnerability by women, I've seen it. It's my life experience, and I'm making my decisions based on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 09:57 PM
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No, it's not. Because it's all contextual, even women who tolerate vulnerability do so only after you've been with them for very long, you can't be vulnerable in the first 6 months it's more like the first 6 years, and there's virtually no way to tell the difference between women who will tolerate it and women who won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 09:14 PM
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in a relationship that is firmly established (as in a marriage) a female partner should support her man through thickness and thin. Should they, or will they? Do all men have enough time and options to find a "good wife"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:51 PM
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Exactly! It's nice in theory, not so much in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:49 PM
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You gotta ask yourself this, is a woman who flees the relationship the moment she realizes you aren’t a robot worth keeping? Yes, life is short, waiting for a woman who will accept you, flaws and all, instead of being stronger is a one way ticket to dying alone. Only the truly privileged or lucky will find someone who absolutely accepts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 08:47 PM
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How am I too sensitive? I'm not upset about what women say, it just allows me to see things more clearly. I still suffer from the whole "woman victim man victimizer" mindset that I was raised with, and being on tiktok is slowly eroding that mindset away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:53 PM
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Like, on average, in western society, you are overweight, fat or obese. But there are still non-fat men who are unattractive, and they're not an uncommon sight. If anything I'd say chubbier (bordering on fat) but tall and masculine dudes fair better than in shape (not sickly thin, not fat, not muscular) effeminate looking short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 06:51 PM
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That actually makes a lot of sense tbh. I find virgin obsession kind of creepy. Lots of women get a “spidey-sense” about it. This is why I don't ever express my interest in virgins to women, or even men. And any guy who does is a fucking idiot and deserves his fate. Everytime a girl has told me their body count (ALWAYS unsolicited, even when I'd rather not know), be it 0 or 50, my reaction is usually "...okay?" It all comes down to making yourself seem not judgemental, but 90% of women under the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:29 PM
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Tiktok is legitimately making me more redpilled than PPD ever has. What I've been loving is like, videos where women will ask "what are some greenflags for men, that make you trust them more" and all the traits they list are just traits that make men more easily manipulated and controlled lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:23 PM
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Girls in the 4-6 range tend to like nice guys I'm going to assume you've never dated any genuinely unattractive women? Well, I have, and no, they absolutely do not like "nice guys". Avoid perpetuating the myth of the poor ignored uggo wall flower with only good intentions because she 100% is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:18 PM
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Hell fucking yes, this is literally what my flair (which causes people to mistake me for a woman) means. Love is a literally endless song and dance and labour, the courtship doesn't end until your wife is too senile and geriatric to leave you, and I say this as someone who is exclusively intetested in monogamous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 05:11 PM
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Because one of those was studied more, it's kind of like the fallacy fallacy, an argument built off of a fallacy is bad, an argument that contains a fallacy isn't necessarily incorrect, I.E. "the sky is blue, everyone says so."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:09 PM
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Maybe I’m just a quality vs quantity guy The sex a girl has with a guy she is intensely attracted to enough that she'll ignore the fact that he's a horrible human being is higher quality than the sex a girl has with a guy she's in a LTR with, whom she may not be that physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:07 PM
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I don't see a dishonest relationship as a successful relationship. It depends, if the facade drops it's unsuccessful, if it stays up forever it is. It's a tree falling in the woods scenario, if no one is around to see the facade drop, to everyone but yourself it might as well not be a facade. And I do see dishonesty as a moral failing, especially when it's harming others. I'm not talking about whether or not being dishonest is wrong. I'm stating that people can be virtually universally unworthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 05:21 AM
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Wins at what? Being an asshole? Manipulating people? Wins at getting a successful and happy relationship. I'm betting that's why you can't form real connections with anyone I actually am pretty much completely honest in my current (and ideally final) LTR. I'm not really speaking of myself here so much, although it was my plan in the past, I kinda ended up in a relationship where it wasn't necessary for me. But for others I don't think it's so much about "connections" as it just not being able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 05:14 AM
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Then find someone you can be your honest self with. That's not always an option, why would someone willingly choose a mediocre person? And mediocrity isn't as relative as you think. Deceiving people just makes you an asshole. But an asshole who wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 05:03 AM
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It's faux connections or no connections, in order to form that connection you have to garner interest and sometimes you can't do that being your honest self.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 04:36 AM
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And no, it's not necessary. You're doing it to get something you want. Yeah, it's necessary to do it to get what you want LOL. That still makes it necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 12:39 AM
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Make excuses all you want...dying alone is not a justification. You'll get no sympathy for me. It's not an excuse and I don't want sympathy, it's just a necessity, I'm not rationalizing my actions as moral, just necessary. And if you can spend your life manipulating someone, you can probably write a novel. Those two things aren't connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 12:14 AM
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Literally no woman I've ever known that is actively dating likes a guy likes that. I can't count the number of conversations where I've had with other women where they say he doesn't seem interested or text back much so they're bailing. I've only met one woman who wasn't this way, I've had plenty of failed relationships that failed because I responded too quickly, it just seemed clingy and like I had no options and was desperate. Ever since I've throttled my texts I've gotten better results. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 12:10 AM
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I don't think there's any excuse for not being honest in any relationship made of your own will. People deserve to know exactly who they're involving themselves with. Men (and women) who behave the way you're describing are trash, as is anyone making excuses for it. Ah, they're trash, but they're trash who end up in happy fufilling relationships, while the mediocre men who insist on being their authentic mediocre selves get nothing but loneliness and death. It's not an excuse, it's bad, certainl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 12:06 AM
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They don't "put up with it" they prefer it to actively replying and showing interest, which comes off as desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:55 PM
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Okay? At the end of the day, you're at the table or on it. Besides the "predation" at hand is faking minor aspects of your personality to make a relationship or hook up work out, it doesn't hold much weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:52 PM
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Simple survior bias at play, you don't see all the men who fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:50 PM
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Yeah me too, fortunately a sucker is born every minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:49 PM
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Because it's not safe, being yourself and being nice are effectively choosing to do nothing at all, it's a choice to do nothing, and by making that choice you're leading yourself to a one way trip to isolation and dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:41 PM
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Yeah, that doesn't sound like a good person to me. Certainly not, but being good largely won't do anything for you as a man, it's only going to leave you destitute and isolated. Victory is all that matters. Nobody really "deserves" anything, people only get what they take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:09 PM
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It's not a spin, people have a provable motive for lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:06 PM
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Last words of man withering away childless alone in a hospital never to be remembered by anybody after he's dead "at least I wasn't cringe" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:18 PM
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Well for the woman sure, because technically the guy who's "hacking" the relationship is keeping her from a natural potentially, but for the guy that's totally not true. And sometimes it's a very binary choice, either play the hand you're dealt or walk away from the table, and surprise surprise most men aren't keen on dying alone in a hospital bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 09:06 PM
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Fewer first world children, you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:55 PM
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It's better to "hack" relationships than to end up alone. If you've been dealt a bad hand (see: ugly or short men) then you kinda gotta do what you gotta do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 08:51 PM
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I still feel like it affects men worse, just based off the fact that I don't see a lot of below average women who feel like they were mislead about their relationship prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 07:09 PM
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Why would you lie about being a fucking loser LOL Are you more likely to lie about something that makes you look good or something that makes you look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 06:00 PM
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Right! That's what I've been saying for a while, it's not about teaching your son game or helping them get pussy, it's about making them aware that their failures right now will have dire consequences later on in life. It's about a sense of urgency rather than just kicking the can down the road and saying "Oh I'm sure you'll find someone in senior year" then to "Most people meet their s/o in college" then to "Most college relationships are a distraction you'll find someone during your career" th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 05:51 PM
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Just put the same importance on adolescent boys to succeed socially that you would in succeeding academically. Not telling you to teach your kids to get pussy, but make sure that you make them aware that being socially inept will have extremely harsh consequences in their later life, like dying alone. Most dudes get to be incels from a lackadaisical attitude towards personal relationships in their adolescence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 03:23 PM
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So do you really think the average woman has a huge shortage of commitment minded men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 08:02 PM
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Right, but as you were saying, being with a cheater (who originally cheated with you) and thinking he cheated on other women but not you helps a lot of women feel special.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 05:36 PM
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Yeah but women want to feel special, like they can change someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 04:27 PM
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The just world fallacy is alive and well, it's just been changed from personal finance to romance, it is being held up by secular people to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 04:17 PM
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I think some men do prefer the chase, but like, using tiktok and seeing a lot of women on social media admit losing interest once affection is reciprocated. And I don't see a lot of men saying that they lose interest in women who reciprocate affection. This is somewhat controversial among women, but it's difficult to say if that's because it's a controversial and unorthodox opinion or just if being open about it is a social faux pas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 06:45 PM
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And I struggle with wondering if the women who've left me did so because I cared for them and treated them well, as if the only way to keep someone is to love them less. So true, I'm not sure why women can't grasp that this is a very common (perhaps nearly universal) experience for a lot of guys. Like, I literally cannot be open about how much I actually like a girl, even further into the relationship I have to throttle it. For some reason women still wonder why guys wait so long to respond to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 03:43 PM
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It's no mystery why men aren't happy lol. Our prospects, both economically and romantically are objectively worse and a good portion of pop culture and the zeitgeist sees us as the enemy, even if you're not white.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 07:30 PM
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I would go as far to say that it's bad advice for men who are ONLY looking for a LTR as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 07:25 PM
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Right now, on the track that I'm on, really really really good (:
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 08:35 PM
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A lot of whether or not you'll be able to go to college is decided by how well you did in highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 07:06 PM
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Easy, put a sense of urgency and awareness into genetically unfortunate men. I.E. just have the same conversation you'd have with your kid if they had a learning disability, but swap academics for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 06:58 PM
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Because it's extremely difficult to live on your own on a minimum wage income and living with your parents is the big tell for a manchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 06:50 PM
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I can't relate and I live in a very very not progressive place. I kinda find it hard to believe anything like this is happening often.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 07:58 PM
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Are going to judge you for saying no? I thought you were like, in your early 20s? I've literally never heard of a social group of 20 year olds being that far right leaning as to shame women for saying no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 07:05 PM
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You don't even have to spend money on dates you could get coffee and go dutch, visit a musem, go to a state fair, literally there's plenty of cheap dates that don't require you to be in anyone's house.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 06:25 PM
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Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 06:22 PM
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If you already feel like a guy might be dangerous and you know that the most dangerous time to be around any man is when you reject him, I feel like you can understand why just sleeping with someone would be more appealing to someone who is conflict avoidant than rejecting them would be. Are you sure you don't just feel like all men are like this, regardless of their actions and personality prior to them trying to initiate sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 06:21 PM
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It's not wallowing. As I've said it's not "hopeless" completely it's just best to know how bad the odds are that you're dealing with lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 11:12 PM
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The OP was asking who lied to men lmao. Let’s not pretend that the nerdy boys weren’t jerking it to the popular girls and not ugly betty Certainly, but most ugly women I've known very very willingly choose to stay permanently single as opposed to settling down with an ugly man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 10:18 PM
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Turn that sadness into urgency then, that's what I suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 10:17 PM
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And they often work! They often don't as well, this is mostly survivor bias. Again though, it's not that it's hopeless it's just that they will have to try considerably harder and also face the very real likelihood of dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 10:10 PM
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Again, the argument here isn't "should you believe the lies people tell you" it's "were you ever lied to to begin with". Didn’t you observe what kind of guys the hot girls were dating and got female attention? Can we not pretend like the average and ugly girls weren't fawning over these guys as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 10:01 PM
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People can change. Not as much as you think, even still it's better to assume the worst and work from that point rather than deluding yourself with fake hopes and optimism. The most important thing for ugly men is that they keep their feet firmly on the ground and understand the sort of oblivion they're looking at if they fail. I learned how to be a decent person. Morality is a non-factor in deciding relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:55 PM
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I don't think they're as good at deluding themselves as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:43 PM
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I think it's more about what you are attracted to and what you want to be attracted to. But yeah, women should choose attraction and compromise on comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:42 PM
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It's not that simple. A good example would be kids with learning deficiencies getting told they will have to work 5x as hard to get to the same place as other children. It's not a simple either or binary of everyone having a chance or some people having literally no hope at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:40 PM
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I don't think media is primarily to blame though, plenty of regular people preach this sort of stuff. You expect movies to be feeding you saccharin sweet bullshit but not the authority figures in your life when you're an adolescent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:38 PM
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The argument isn't that men shouldn't be expected to see beyond these lies, it's that they were never lied to at all. Also I don't think women were sold as many lies most of them are well aware men care about their looks and aren't fed lies about glow ups and pie in the sky dreams of social mobility
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 09:01 PM
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the motivation is civil strive and internal conflict. I'm asking what the motivation is to use bots on a microscopic subreddit. How would that help with your goal of civil strife?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 01:16 AM
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Same if they’re all significantly different than you, So, if theoretically a guy was dating a girl and all of her exes were very attractive very abusive men, and the man clearly was neither, that would definitely be a big red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:57 AM
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They have to pay for those bots, you know that right? They also have to pay people to make them. So why would they pay to put bots on a microscopic incredibly irrelevant subreddit that will most likely be quarantined in a year or two? That's why it's schizophrenic sounding, the motive isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:55 AM
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I want to disagree with this, genuinely I do. But there is just a vibe pregnant women give off that's like... ick. Maybe it's the waddling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:52 AM
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This one I don't actually get and I'm a very sexual person. But then again I also don't get the appeal of lace either, it looks scratchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:51 AM
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Imagine all the NTs coming to poach some autistic pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:50 AM
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Sounds slightly schizophrenic, no offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:48 AM
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Yeah but those men usually haven't been in a relationship with a woman who hates them, or any woman for that matter. It's miserable. Truly it is better to have never loved at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:48 AM
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But I'm saying it's kinda not relevant. In modern times, if you're a woman and you really want to have the least amount of negative impact on men, just don't lower your physical standards, even if it means dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:44 AM
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With the spread of information what you're describing is literally impossible, much less totally unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:35 PM
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Who cares about society. Women cannot be happy with men they consider unattractive, and when they're not happy they will make sure their husband isn't either. It's a cycle of pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 10:42 PM
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Settling for anything but "her" type. Women have different types and they all do not belong in the same category. This is always a weird argument, ugly men are no womens "type" lol, women like different variations of men who are never really far from the male beauty standard. The biggest variation I see is facially attractive tall dudes who are very mildly overweight, while still being heavily built in terms of muscle, that's the biggest variation from the male beauty standard I ever see. Then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 09:40 PM
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Exactly! Womens sexuality isn't up for negotiation. As a result, ugly women like attractive men just as much as their attractive counterparts and consider waking up next to a man they aren't attracted to as a worse fate than dying alone. Women cope with loneliness better than men anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:50 PM
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It's not the top, I've been friends with and a lot of truly ugly women, and I know most of them would very easily pick loneliness over settling. It's hard for me to ignore what I already know. I don't buy this whole ugly women dating ugly men thing, I've never really observed any of these relationships in anyone under the age of 35. Even on the street most looks matched ugly couples are older, and in my opinion part of a very different culture. I see looks matched ugly couples going the way of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:44 PM
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Don't act like most modern "movements" exist outside of social media, come on. If fat acceptance isn't a movement than pretty much 90% of every one of these "movements" after 2011 aren't movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:18 PM
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Effort can help people realize their potential, but plenty of men simply have absolutely no potential. I'm not saying they shouldn't try and should instead spend their free time crying and whining on reddit, but they also shouldn't be filled with false hopes and expectations that they can escape their fate. Outside of luck, which is being in the right place at the right time, plenty of men will become evolutionary dead ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:17 PM
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He won't though lol. Ugly women generally prefer loneliness over being with guys they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:10 PM
2

The body acceptance movement exists outside of fat female models lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:08 PM
15

Totally, lazy people deserve to be miserable and lonely you won't get me arguing against that. However, lack of effort isn't the barrier to relationships and happiness, luck is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:08 PM
3

You have to get your foot in the door. All of those comfort traits don't and never will matter if you're ugly and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:07 PM
4

Yes fat ugly women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:05 PM
23

A fat pizza faced guy with a lovely well rounded personality is never gonna get a blonde beauty. He's not going to get an ugly girl either don't kid yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:03 PM
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Did you think dressing like a slob, not brushing your hair, teeth and wearing clothes 2x bigger for you, was going to get you a gf? You can do literally everything said here and still not get a gf lmao. You really do think we live in a just world don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 08:02 PM
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Literally almost every adult in my life. I was raised evangelical christian and the implication is that the women in that sort of culture will date you based on your actions and personality and not your looks. Not to mention that even as an adolescent when I expressed worry about my current failure or the reality I wouldn't have many future successes with women I was constantly fed lies and false hopes constantly kicking the can down the road about how if it didn't work out in sophomore year sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:57 PM
12

I actually think your mom was nice to have been so honest. You can't be "crushed" if you never had any hopes or expectations of being happy to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:50 PM
1

The thread is a cmv and your post isn't going against it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:49 PM
1

Yeah probably not. Your ambition would be percieved as vain and representive of your fragile ego, as opposed to brave and defiant. Your aggressiveness would be brutish and anti-social rather than a quirk of your personality. Your self interest would be seen as narcissistic instead of "necessary" for your survival. And your emotions would be percieved as either volatile or pathetic and self pitying, instead of natural and necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:48 PM
1

Well, then your original reply feels a bit like a non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:40 PM
1

She disagreed, at that moment we were kinda long distance so she didn't have to be confronted with me eating meat every day of our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 07:39 PM
5

You have guys who barely pay any attention to their gfs I've seen these guys, they're usually very attractive or have good dick game and frame. The most genuinely insanely fucking toxic and abusive guy I've ever known coincidentally had a 9 inch dick. I've yet to see all these relationships where the guy is emotionally distant AND ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 05:05 PM
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A woman with truly low standards will not stay single for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 05:00 PM
1

Do you expect men to take umbrage with those expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:54 PM
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Never ever lower your physical standards no matter what. Make absolutely 150% sure you're really really into a guy before you commit to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:50 PM
2

I broke up with a girl because she was a vegan and I was pretty much certain that it was going to lead to hundreds of arguments down the line. She insisted it wasn't going to be a problem but considering she was a pretty hardcore moral vegan, and was also attatched to me soley because I was pretty much the only guy to pay attention to her I just saw things breaking down in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:47 PM
2

https://twitter.com/WomenPostingLs/status/1348652078407835648?s=19 Why
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:43 PM
3

The main takeaway should be you don't need to change. Is this because you don't like the idea of men being dishonest to get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:16 PM
3

Literally it's virtually impossible. This is like constructing a science fiction scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 03:09 PM
1

I am, I just feel like you're implying it's something that literally doesn't matter at all to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 06:21 PM
1

I mean, I think these are certainly interesting, and admirable, so it's not that it has no value to me, it's just attraction (going both directions), personality and compatibility are all above that. I can't imagine someone's career being a big factor in whether or not I want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:46 PM
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Ugly women are aware of their league, but that doesn't magically make them attracted to ugly men. No amount of endearing heartfelt gifts, or cute thoughtful dates can change that. While an ugly girl might not ever expect to date a hot guy that doesn't mean they don't dream and yearn for it and this makes them a lot more of a unstable relationship prospect than popular culture would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:18 PM
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Wow, I'm hearing a lot of resentment in your posts, have you considered that your attitude is why your relationships keep falling apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:15 PM
2

I have, and I intend to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:12 PM
1

another boundary crosser and I'm just so fucking sick of guys crossing my boundaries. For some reason the way you worded this is hysterical to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:11 PM
0

but if you believe you're going to get hard everytime you see your wife's breast that you've seen every day for the last year's you have another thing coming. This is more of a testosterone erectile dysfunction thing than it is a relationship boredom thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 04:53 AM
1

That's an extremely niche situation and not applicable to the every man. There's a lot of luck that goes into becoming a famous musician it's silly to argue that it's all about hard work. but it will give him a better chance than another really ugly dude that doesn’t have them. Better, yes, but better in the sense that "bad" is better than "worse" , but undeniably still no where near "good".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 01:27 AM
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Yes, but even saying that , perhaps enough category 2 traits can make an above average dude more attractive than a marginally more attractive dude lacking in category 2 traits, but it can't make an average dude beat and attractive dude, and it sure as fuck can't make an ugly dude beat an attractive dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 01:08 AM
1

Some, but not most, arguably few. These people in question are pretty much asexual and use sex purely as a reward system, which is a pretty miserable experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 01:04 AM
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Would you be willing to define that for me and the readers? A romantic sense means those achievements make you want to date that person more. You can admire someone's achievements and it have absolutely no effect on whether or not you want to be in a relationship with them. If you're trying to argue women should be platonically admired for their achievements then I don't really have much to argue about here. Nope. I disagree. ACHIEVE means has risen. Even if you're exclusively talking about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 01:03 AM
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I'm not going to bother to call you a liar further, it's fruitless, but you're crazy if you think it's true for most women. Effort will keep very few relationships a float if there's not an extremely strong connection, which usually comes from physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 12:52 AM
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If the man is trying to make me happy that's good enough for me. C'mon bro you know that's not true LOL The very concept of polygamy makes me irrationally angry and disgusted on a visceral level. Same goes for "open relationships." At least we can agree here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 12:44 AM
1

It's a simple complex question: Why [we/a]ren't women valued for their achievements? Well this question presupposes that men are valued (in a romantic sense) for their achievements, and not for the status that those achievements bring them. If we're using achievements to describe just simple hobbies that don't actually increase ones status (I.E. being skilled with a instrument, or being a good artist without being famous) then I would argue that men do value those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 12:43 AM
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So then in that case their career/achievements is just a means of deducting what kind of personality they have? It still seems like in this hypothetical their achievements aren't something that is a deciding factor of whether or not you should date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 12:37 AM
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Not really, I'm poor, and I've had many very good relationships and friendships with not so educated women. You can find out if you're compatible over coffee lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:46 PM
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Okay, let's go back to what I replied to originally, you asked "why" women weren't valued for their achievements (I assume in relationships, I don't deny women should be valued for them outside of that in a greater historical context). The answer as to "why" is men value personality, physical attraction, compatability, and reciprocation of physical attraction before what the woman has done. I can speak for most men in saying I've never wanted to date someone soley because of their achievements a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:37 PM
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"should" is a strong word, hints at demand(s). So is that a no? Why should I prioritize a womans achievements when selecting a partner over things more important to me like personality and looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 10:48 PM
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Why aren't women on average (there are exceptions) valued for MORE than just their beauty, like, for example their average ACHIEVEMENTS and consistent ConTRiBUtiON? Are you talking about in romantic relationships or just in general in life? Because in terms of romantic relationships: why should men be attracted to women's achievements? How is her having a PHD or a well paying job going to make the relationship any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 08:51 PM
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men have other things to give . And in a relationship none of those other things will make up for being ugly. Affection that you have to win is entirely pyrrhic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 08:48 PM
0

Paranoid about peoples intentions, but arrogant in never admitting that it could happen to them. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:31 PM
1

Okay, I can agree there I suppose. But that isn't the only time people actually get accused of being colorist or whatever, I've seen dark skinned dudes get accused of being colorist just for having a history of almost exclusively dating lightskinned women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:29 PM
1

I'm not applying these opinions I get what you're saying. Would you accuse someone who openly touted their love and preferences of tall people some sort of phobic or ist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:25 PM
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But no one has an issue with openly saying they like tall people, or strong jaw lines, culturally speaking that's accepted. But openly admitting your preference for skintone or hair isn't? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:20 PM
2

But we don't have any issue spouting our preferences for height or facial features(some of which occur more in certain races)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:51 PM
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This, but unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:44 PM
0

Glad we can see eye to eye (:
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:57 PM
1

They were banned because it's a subreddit for women and men pursuing them invalidated their world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:53 PM
1

Not when they've never had a relationship in their lives to begin with lol. Femcels are a fantasy for incels, both in terms of them being pitched as low hanging fruit and as someone who can understand them, both are false.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:46 PM
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Nothing of this proves that the femcels pursued were only pursued for sex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:39 PM
1

6 is the cut off for average and "big" starts at 8. 5, which is most average is small.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:07 PM
1

Yes, I do! Most guys have small dicks so they have reason to perpetuate, and as well, again, it relates back to my last post. A world where good sex and bad sex is determined by effort and generosity is a much nicer feeling world than one where it's determined by genetics. It's the same reason people believe in karma, and people getting payback for their immoral actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:09 PM
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sometimes they base it off what they've seen on the internet or what their friends have told them. "Motion of the ocean" being an excellent example of this. Also your flair is "Manlet Lover" so do you really think you speak for most women when you talk about your love of shrimp dicked manlets? That's two copes right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:05 PM
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It all goes back to what I said about it being a cope. Big dicked sexually generous guys exist plentifully. You said before that the big dicked guys won't learn to be generous because they don't have to, why do you think that is? Why would they be getting more sex because of having a big dick, if it wasn't for the fact that sex with big dicks is better lmao. I've already explained what motive you have in perpetuating stuff like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:00 PM
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Women and dicklets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:21 PM
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See a lot of women make this argument but it's not true. The skin you, and women like you, have in this game is the fact that reality makes you sad. The notion where someone's value can be determined at birth, and where people can be completely worthless through absolutely no moral failing of their own upsets a lot of people, women included. The end result of big dicks being better means little dicks are worse and useless in comparison, and as of right now there is literally no way to change tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:20 PM
2

Feels like a cope to me tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:13 PM
2

Why wouldn't they, they still have to compete with big dicked guys who know how to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:08 PM
2

You'd be surprised how controversial what I'm saying is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:06 PM
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There's plenty more I'm not going to cite entire blogs talking about EQ during purge week lmao. Look into people who talk about EQ they clearly present it as a rigorously scientifically proven thing. Again you're playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:50 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:44 PM
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The literal fact that it's name is incredibly similar and the fact that it's piggybacking and riding the coatails of another theory dude. Don't play stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:44 PM
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Because the language surrounding EQ attempts to compare itself to IQ in terms of how well studied it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:30 PM
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There's still no actual proof of it, making it psuedo science.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:16 PM
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It's real in the sense that there are people good and bad at socializing, but EQ clearly exists as a concept to be compared to IQ, something that is rigorously studied and actually observable scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:58 PM
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It isn't, but you should just be able to accept being dumb, I'm not particularly smart and I'm not upset abour it. I just hate seeing people who refuse to accept reality and cope at every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:56 PM
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Not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:55 PM
2

They can, but they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:54 PM
2

Do you have any proof of this outside of your schizophrenic ramblings?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:53 PM
1

I don't think it's a issue of "some" differences, I think those differences are bigger than you give them credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:42 PM
1

Okay, but they're still different. A horse is more different from a dog than it is a zebra but it's still different from a zebra.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:39 PM
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There is however a homogeneous poor american white culture. And that culture still differs from poor black culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 07:32 PM
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I forgive you, just don't fuck up again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:54 PM
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In all of the ways that white and black culture are different? The only way they could be the same is if their cultures were identical. Obviously this isn't applicable in extremely multiracial multicultural communities but those aren't as common as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:53 PM
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It's not race based it's culture based, black and white people just tend to have different cultures even if they're in the same income bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:52 PM
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Yeah but that was cheat day so it doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:51 PM
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Which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:50 PM
2

I don't think these people actually want sympathy from women as much as you think they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:49 PM
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Hey don't be upset for me, I don't resent women all. You mistakenly believe that I think that women imorally won't sympathize with men, which I don't. I think that women can't sympathize with men, even if they really really want to, they're just not built for it. A womans built in response to male vulnerability is visceral primal disgust on a gut level. On a logical or moral level I'm sure women want to sympathize with men, they just can't bring themselves to. And I think a lot of women even on …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:48 PM
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Hey if you're going to make a reference to me, please tag me next time. If you want to look through my post history you can, you won't find any female hating posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:27 PM
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You can work relentlessly to get ab muscles, better style, and take 4 showers a day, AND also be a relentless manipulative machievellian schemer. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:25 PM
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I'm not confused as to why you don't agree, I'm confused as to why men holding that position upsets you? Most women do not care lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:22 PM
1

I'm saying what as in what did he say that was that was controversial? It seemed like an overreaction
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:57 PM
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I'm not racist but you have to be a fucking idiot to say that white dating culture and black dating culture is identical and thus advise for both can be universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:01 PM
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I'm male, fyi. My place comes from less of a "men don't deserve sympathy" standpoint and more of a pessimistic assumption women either can't or won't be able to sympathize with virtually all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:40 AM
1

Are you using you in the royal sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:20 AM
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Does it actually upset you that men might feel this way about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:01 AM
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and actually hurtful! You're joking right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 04:00 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:59 AM
-1

What
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:50 AM
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Yeah but a lot of straight women don't actually like men so they're not that motivated by a desire for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:20 AM
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if you want to be loved you gotta find someone who can meet you not someone who is so hot it makes all your friends jealous, a man isn't a fucking purse I'm male. But I think expecting women not to date men for the soul purpose of being able to brag to their friends is kind of a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:13 AM
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I don't see how what you said is contradictory to my post? Wanting people to lower their standards is fucking dumb, whether those standards are reasonable or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:02 AM
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What
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 12:53 AM
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And dating any man isn't dangerous? So we're just supposed to play Russian Roulette with any guy we date No? If you wanna make guys wait for sex then do it. Men and women just have competing interests. It benefits you to hold off on sex until you're sure the guy actually likes you, and it benefits me to make absolutely sure the girls I'm dating are sexually attracted while also simultaneously not having a high N. Ideally you'd catch that girl who dated five guys before she gets to the third or f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:57 PM
1

So first degree murder is the same as manslaughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:21 PM
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I don't support shitting on high N women but dating high N women is dangerous and likely to lead to a failed relationship with someone who will get bored of you lol. The blameless girls who got played are functionally identical to the girls unstable girls who get bored easily and who also dip after the honeymoon phase is over. So the best solution for mens survival and happiness is to avoid both and stick with a lower N girl. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:10 PM
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Jesus, imagine thinking a 4 month relationship is a "pump and dump" and not a failed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:04 PM
1

Yeah, I think perference/disgust towards facial neoteny is one of the big differences in heterosexual women and men. And a lot of heterosexual women will mistake the projected male coded features onto women thinking these women are attractive. I mean, they are since it's attraction is subjective but you get what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 05:23 PM
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I'm not sure how to describe it and it's probably very anecdotal, but a lot of female facial features women envy aren't attractive to me. All I can think of rn is super high cheek bones, and strong jawlines, but also I'll find straight women be like "omg she's so pretty" and it's just a girl under a pound of makeup lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:36 AM
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I've said it before but goddamn straight women have horrible taste in what women they consider to be attractive lol. Like so often I'll be like "That's what you want to look like 🤢"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 04:53 PM
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Okay but it's still a lie by omission ultimately. I'm not trying to equate this with actual deception, like hiding whether you have kids or stds or don't have a genuine interest in a relationship, obviously all those things are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 07:59 PM
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I agree. But this 100% falls under the umbrella of dishonesty. A man hiding how much of a nervous bitch he is takes away a womans ability to make an informed decision on if she wants to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:40 PM
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Half the people I've ever known to be in a polyamorous relationship were either guilt tripped into it or too emotionally attatched to their s/o to put their foot down and risk ending the relationship. In fact I've never known a poly couple that equally benefitted from the relationship. As a result I think it fucking sucks and shouldn't be touted as a good alternative to monogamy. A "good" alternative to monogamy is unattatched promiscuity. Romantic emotional intimacy outside of monogamous relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:36 PM
1

Better bad than terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:32 PM
1

Well, like, a containment auto mod is good, that way all of the boring played out criticisms of feminism can get endlessly spammed there, and actually well thought out criticisms can get their own threads. Mind you, I don't like feminism at all, but repeating the same played out poorly worded criticisms from 2014 to have the same boring fruitless arguments lowers the quality of content here severely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 05:41 PM
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Functionally, the authentically nice guys and the vengeful "nice guys" only change after you reject them. It's like schrodinger's nice guy, prior to rejection the nice guy could either be authentic or a faker and very very few people would ever know. So women just assume they're all fakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 02:29 PM
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I have a feeling they're just going to go back to the "no incel fds or brainlet anti-feminist takes" the last of which I don't have an issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:41 PM
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Yoo, why was the incel fds feminism automod deleted?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 05:18 PM
1

I'm not talking about medical surgery or piercings. One of the reasons why people get furious with circumcision being compared to FGM (the fgm that occurrs in Africa and the middle east) is the assumption that it's always the FGM that involves removing and destroying the clitoris, but a large degree of the oversees FGM is just labiaplasty, which IS comparable to circumcision in terms of how harmful it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 04:59 PM
1

Oh absolutely. I wish we would stop acting like morality plays any part in attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 04:57 PM
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The people misusing the term toxic masculinity to describe all masculinity have more control over the ideological direction that feminism is going than the academics using it the correct way. Feminism is no longer controlled by old upper middle class academic white women, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 04:50 PM
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The issue is why is labiaplasty for toddler age girls considered female genital mutilation but circumcision for toddler aged boys not considered male genital mutilation? And a significant portion of FGM is labia plasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 04:47 PM
2

An attractive guy with a good personality will beat out an attractive guy with a bad personality. That's the extent that it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 04:45 PM
1

Okay, but why don't men have? I have no idea, I just know they don't. Thus making more men looking for committed relationships than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:21 PM
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Not really, women stastically have bigger friend groups and more social outlets outside of their partner than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:11 PM
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More women are better with loneliness than men. There will be men who can literally go their entire lives without ever having a close relationship with a woman and be fine, and there are women who will sink to horrible depths to avoid loneliness, but these are both the execption, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:48 PM
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I’ll never be able to compete with Adriana Lima or even the local Adriana Lima in securing commitment from top tier rich and successful men who are also good looking. Here's the issue, rich men and poor men don't function neurologically differently. You will as an average woman, get the same level of romantic passion (I.E. thoughtful gifts/dates and emotional availability) from men around your level of equivalent attractiveness aa you would if you were attractive by virtue of men having naturall…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:47 PM
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Chad doesn't care about n-count for hookups, and neither do incels lol. With the execption being women so renown for promiscuity that it might cause him a worry for his physical health.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:38 PM
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I agree mostly, however I don't think getting commitment for unattractive women is really that much easier than for unattactive men. It is though, women handle loneliness better. So on average there's always going to be a surplus of men wanting commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:27 PM
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It's a waste of time. Women are just programmed not to sympathize with these men. Biologically and culturally. These men are evolutionary dead ends, just with the means to contemplate the fact that they're evolutionary dead ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:22 PM
3

People think this is a blue pilled take when it's literally as red as it can be. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:15 PM
1

Yeah, but that's never going to happen lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:14 PM
1

But then what about all of the people who made major break throughs in cancer research prior to that team. They ultimately formed the basis, yet it would be crazy to call them "people who discovered a cure for cancer"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:05 PM
1

largely because that incompatibility would lead to insecurities in the relationship. Can you elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:54 PM
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Ugly women do not want to be in FWB relationships with average dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:52 PM
1

Yeah but being a contributor on a team of people looking for a cure is clearly a completely different situation than a guy who has found a cure for cancer. Would you also count anyone whos worked in cancer research as "someone who has found a cure for cancer"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:49 PM
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I don't think that's possible with a disease as well known as cancer, just by virtue of him being famous he'd have a much wider range of exposure for women willing to tolerate his lack of social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:08 PM
1

Can you imagine a world where you simultaneously cure cancer, and also are involuntary celibate? Because I can't. I don't look down on asexuals like isaac newton.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 03:21 PM
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Your post almost gets it but misses the mark. There is a fundementally good reason to have a bruised ego over not achieving sex. At the end of the day in the long term, the very very long term after you and I are food for the flowers and worms, your sexual success will be all that matters. Because at the end of the day things that didn't perpetually procreate didn't pass on their genes. There's no meaning to anything, no telos to evolution. Life marches on, pushed forward by the blind and vacuou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 01:29 PM
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Yep, my best relationship there was an immediate and very strong connection, no need to convince her to like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 12:27 PM
2

Jealous of the cash money she's making without ever showing anything. Also a great deal of women don't consider sex work to be "lowering".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 11:30 PM
2

Women auto correct in their brain "sensitive" to mean "sensitive to my feelings" rather than the man himself being vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:48 PM
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Better to have a relationship that had a strong flame and died than one that's dead on arrival though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 10:19 AM
0

I don't know about that one chief...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:20 PM
2

People aren't going to stand for being treated horribly by their partner This is satire right? How do you explain domestic abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:35 PM
2

It isn't, ask men what their ideal n-count is, you either get "it doesn't matter" or "0-5/0-3" the latter of which roughly translates to "the less the better" however for women this isn't true at all. The few who do say they want a low N man always say "low, but not none" yet you virtually never see men echo this sentiment, it's always "virgin, or however close I can get to that within reason". It's obvious low N is significantly more attractive to men because they actually want virgins, women d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:34 PM
2

I have dated quite a few girls who were molested in the past, and it almost always comes up within the first week and a half. Honestly I genuinely feel like there's something that attracts sexually abused women to me. But it's always a pretty scary situation dealing with it, there isn't much you can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:29 PM
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No, because the person being settled for is in a fundementally precarious position, especially if they're male. Women resent having to live with and sleep with ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:41 PM
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Ladies, can you please wait till at least the third date before telling me you were molested, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:37 PM
3

Because the foundation of a romantic relationship should be love, not survival. Not sure how this is a controversial statement...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:25 PM
2

Why do women with non-zero, but low n counts still have lower rates of infidelity compared to higher N women? I doubt you could make the case of these women being religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:16 PM
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Okay, I could say that I prefer toothless hairy women who are somehow simultaneously fat while also having no tits or ass, would you assume I speak for all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:10 PM
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Yes, because she doesn't love you. Most people can't settle for long, and waking up everyday to someone you're not interested in causes you to loathe them. This isn't love at all, it's a pragmatic decision made for survival, it's grotesque for all parties involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:08 PM
1

Is a bit of embarrassment really worth the risk of dying alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 10:17 PM
2

I don't know, I've known a few actual femcels, most of them don't actually want relationships, not even on like a "I want it but I don't want to do the work to get it" more like, they say they want it, but upon any sort of deeper thought they retract that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 10:13 PM
1

Do you ever think you might have some responsibility in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 10:09 PM
5

You sure it has nothing to do with both groups having opposing goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:58 PM
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Yeah, because you have a vested interest in making it look better lol. You do realize I can go on FDS and read the posts there? Just openly lying about it's content is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:56 PM
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No, it's 2020, co-equal relationships have been a thing for a long time it's nothing new, FDS certainly didn't create this. FDS craves absolute control, not co-equal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:55 PM
2

So much for femcels lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:48 PM
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Okay? But those two statements aren't contradictory. You can be not attracted to belle delphine and still laugh at women who seethe with jealousy at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:44 PM
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There's no real stigma, people might be surprised you're into a man who's weaker than you, but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:43 PM
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FDS is looking for a relationship where the man let's her make all major (and most minor) decisions in the relationship. Not equality. Co-equal relationships are great and I don't have any fondness for the weird tradcon shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:41 PM
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Again, that's not what they want. You can keep trying to sugar coat it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:37 PM
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It's not that at all though, and what you said is reasonable. If that's all they were after they would have already found it because what you described isn't that uncommon lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:36 PM
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Not even alpha bux, because the alpha bux still makes relationship decisions and is his own independent man. Their version of alpha bux is just an accessory to her, something that exists only to serve her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:01 PM
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I don't think their standards are as meager as you claim. Their inherent disdain for men causes them to not feel comfortable in a relationship where their partner doesn't defer to them on every decision. While also simultaneously loathing the kind of men who would exhibit that level of submissiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:00 PM
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Or because it doesn't exist. The jist of a high value man according to FDS is someone who is very ambitious and domineering in his worklife and sycophantic, servile and spineless in his home life. I'm sure it's possible for these men to exist, but they're just as rare as the "virgin but horny all the time exclusively for her boyfriend" girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:14 PM
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Okay, I don't actually disagree here. I think shitting on promiscuous women is a waste of time and energy and unnecessary. Would you consider it unfair to advise other men not to date promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:58 PM
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So if a high n guy doesn't verbally deride women who are promiscuous, but refuses to date them, that's fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:52 PM
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How is it hypocritical? If you have anger issues should you only date women who also have anger issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:45 PM
1

Olive Garden isnt really trying to be good or delicious, it’s just trying to be cheap and easy to mass produce The problem here is this just world fallacy. That so long as you try your best and do your homework there's no way you could be inferior to another man sexually. But that's just not true. A good portion of sexual prowess is decided before you're born. You can't work your way up to a bigger dick. And there are plenty of men who are well endowed AND generous with foreplay, how does your l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:42 PM
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You have to get her to fuck you first lol. You can be a walking human encylopedia of foreplay and it will make 0 difference until you convince her to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:36 PM
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0, well 1 counting myself. But if things get truly dire I'll settle for 5 or less and just resent her until we divorce or one of us dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:31 PM
1

It depends on who you ask. Lesbian seperatism is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:30 PM
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Go ahead and waste your time if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:29 PM
3

Exactly! I genuinely can't wrap my head around this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:28 PM
2

Well, either way, if someone is saying "don't date promiscuous women" it's a leap in logic to assume that's saying you shouldn't be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 03:27 PM
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CMV: Telling men to not date whores is not the same as telling women not to be whores. Waay too often do I read women asking "so what should women do?" On here lol. Idk? Whatever you want. There's plenty of guys without self respect guys who won't care about your N count so why would you even ask this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:55 PM
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I think a lot if TRP has transitioned from "Women shouldn't have casual sex" to "I won't date women who have had casual sex, and if you're smart you shouldn't either". Honestly I feel like recommending men not to date whores shouldn't be interpreted as recommending women not be whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 01:47 PM
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The "pill" and psychoanalyzing stuff is a representation of an EXTREMELY small amount of the population. Don't get it twisted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:04 AM
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Yeah pretty much. But on a debate forum it helps to be verbose. Brevity is not the soul of wit here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 12:21 AM
2

Close, but no cigar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 08:53 PM
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If you haven't been accused of being a incel and a woman in the same day you don't truly deserve the purple pill flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:39 PM
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I'm male lol. All of the pockets in my jeans fit my needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:37 PM
2

Truth hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 06:54 PM
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Because they're hot enough for a girl to overlook how dumb cargo shorts look.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:16 PM
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Yeah but they're fuck ugly and not flattering to anyone, you need to be really really hot to negate how bad they make you look. Also they're the popular shorts of prepubescent boys so they reak manchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:12 PM
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Text throttling (that is waiting to reply to someone even when you're not busy) implies you have options, which by having options implies value. It makes her feel like she has to win you over, and if she succeeds in "winning you over" even if you knew you wanted to date her from the get go, she feels like she's gotten something more valuable than if you had been open and available from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 05:11 PM
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If you're not a celebrity, super model, or billionaire, you shouldn't be wearing cargo shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:20 PM
2

Most incels don't even actually like Elliott Rodger, the majority of his victims were other unattractive incel asian dudes who he openly hated. The whole saint Elliott stuff is shock humor, which clearly works as intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:18 PM
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People think that by quoting Maslow's Hierarchy of needs that means you think there should be state mandated gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:17 PM
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I don't think so. Male sexuality is a lot more subject to persuasion than people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 03:49 PM
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Get rid of all of your cargo shorts IMMEDIATELY.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 01:34 PM
0

Glad we could resolve this matter 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 03:49 AM
0

That most guys don't care about girls getting off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 03:26 AM
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This is a dumb boomer (gen x) mindset that stopped being true after the year 2015.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 03:15 AM
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Okay, I don't believe, you but I believe that you think that, so I get why you'd omit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:28 PM
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I'm not saying you specifically I'm just giving an example. And that's fine if you want to omit it, I just think if I was a female and I had as many options I'd preselect for people who share the same ideology as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:23 PM
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I don't think that's true. You honestly don't believe in the existence of progressive men? Like, there are dudes literally letting their girlfriend get fucked by other guys and you're skeptical that a guy might shrug his shoulders at the idea of you being slutty when you were younger? I mean it's your call lol, do you lie about who you voted for so you can date trump supporters also lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:07 PM
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Do we mean like N-count? Cause honestly I think it's a waste of time for women to lie about it, if you're honest you can just get a guy who doesn't care or is even into it. I mean, are you foaming at the mouth to date men who think promiscuous women are disgusting, honestly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:57 PM
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What was the context?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:54 PM
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Yeah, maybe I'm just an outlier but I've honestly met quite a few people (not just girls) who were like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:57 PM
1

Yeah, Machievelli admitted that there are lots of times where you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 05:39 PM
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I think it's more of it just being a deep haze, I've known a few girls who are blatant about the fact that they straight up just can't remember anything at all from back then. This is usually an indication of some childhood trauma that is almost guaranteed to put massive strain on the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 05:24 PM
2

Adolescence and early youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:21 PM
4

Hey man, unironically it's not a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:20 PM
2

Yes, sure. But I made a thread talking about what dating strategies are unfair or unethical and the main theme of answers I got was lies, of any kind, no matter how small.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:31 PM
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Afterlife maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 01:30 PM
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There's not a false equivalence though and emotional investment is largely the reason why this gets brought up by TRPs to begin with? To disconnect emotional investiment from the argument is to completely and fundementally misunderstand it. It's the reason why the threads aren't "my girlfriend wouldn't do anal with her ex and now she won't do it with me either". The whole sex act thing is just a stand in, it's a measuring stick for how much you matter to the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:24 AM
1

The homogeneity isn't deeper than having similar facial features.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:18 AM
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To a degree, but women value their sexuality equally, if not more than a man values his time and emotional expense. So they are equal. Are you trying to argue that a guy who wrote thoughtful poems for his ex, but not his current girlfriend, is more emotionally invested than a girl who used to do anal for her ex, but not her current boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:15 AM
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The effort is irrelevant because the sacrifice is equal. The man equally doesn't want to plan a huge thoughtful date as much as the woman doesn't want to have a dick in her ass. The point is that in both cases one can conclude that they had a greater emotional investment in the relationship in the past than they do in the present. Both times they made sacrifices that they now refuse to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:05 AM
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The effort is irrelevant, both are things you don't really want to do that you do, women put a lot of importance into sex, so it's roughly equal, even if she's ultimately putting in less effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:58 AM
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Not really, either way you're doing it because you know it will make the person you're with happy and that's something you're interested in. Whether it's someone who isn't artistically talented painstakingly writing a poem that not only has to be good in terms of prose but also emotionally resonate with the woman he's dating, or getting fucked in the ass. The fact that getting fucked in the ass is easier just seems like one could indicate the woman has even less emotional investment in the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:44 AM
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Lying is the single greatest dating strategy in existence. If you can learn how to do it good enough then almost any man barring the truly disfigured can get at least a meager amount of pussy. The best redpill books would be books on psychology, body language, and of course the classic prince by niccolo machiavelli.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:34 AM
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hey I'll fuck you if you can abandon any genuine part of your identity and put on an appealing enough mask that's fits what's in my imagination of fucking Women are actually mortified of being lied to. Coincidentally lying is also the single greatest dating strategy to ever exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:30 AM
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It is high quality in terms of production, just not content and women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:21 AM
2

I think men take loneliness worse than women because they have more to lose. Women have the whole "I'm surrounded by others but still lonely" loneliness and men have the "I am absolutely and utterly isolated and if I died tomorrow it would take weeks or months before anyone noticed" loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:19 AM
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I think OP misses the point here by focusing on money rather than thoughtfulness, but it doesn't work for it to just be "I used to do sexual thing for my ex now but I don't" won't work for both genders because one of them clearly values sex more, a good hefty chunk of women are happy with starfish sex where they get to cum, and anything else ranges from okay to a waste of time. A lot of redpillers with too much of a focus on the "bux" in beta bux forget about the affectionate thoughtful aspect o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:16 AM
1

You should seriously consider reposting this as a thread, or even just in the offtopic general.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:10 AM
1

This is a good analogy. Maybe if you get rid of a bit of the more insane financial stuff. But the notion of being more romantically involved, I.E. writing heartfelt poems or giving gifts or planning that are extremely thoughtful or expensive to the individual girl, is pretty much a mirror of what women want to what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:06 AM
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Having only assholes hurts dual mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:00 AM
1

Where are you meeting people with reddit ideals irl, I've never ever heard anyone at all mention this irl lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:58 AM
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I think at the end of the day the expectation of being understood and all this moralizing is a waste of time. If you meet a woman who obviously treated much shittier guys much better in the past then drop her and don't think about her again. Don't let people who literally could give two shits less about you live in your head rent free.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:52 AM
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If she can't remember many details from her adolescence and she's not that old (under the age of 40) that should be considered a fucking huge redflag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:28 AM
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No, absofuckinglutely not. However it's best not to seem like you're stoic or hiding pain, but appear unaffected entirely. A man should be unmoved by tragedy. Women will say "ugh I hate robotic men" but fail to be able to define what a insufficient lack of vulnerability looks like? Is it not crying enough? Do you break up with your boyfriend if he hasn't met his yearly crying quota? They'll always give you bullshit answers about men lashing out from emotional suppression, but what if he suppress…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 08:39 PM
1

This is the one. TRP isn't advising men to pursue women they're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:28 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again pre-reddit incel communites were insanely fucking different from reddit incel communities. Equally as misognystic but significantly more self aware and self loathing. I honestly still consider myself somewhat incel sympathetic but whenever I read shit from reddit incels I more and more lose that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:16 PM
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This, people seriously underestimate just how fucking hideously unattractive people can be on a biological level. Very few people have the money to pay for hair transplants and jaw surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:13 PM
2

Hey your loss, your pecimessim is only holding you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:06 PM
2

The things you mentioned are both widely available to most women lmao, I don't get how that wasn't clear th3 first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 06:49 PM
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The thing is they never had a chance to get this stuff to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 05:12 PM
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It's already here, you're just not trying hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 05:09 PM
2

Finally someone who actually understands! And yet if you say this people will think you're bluepilled, smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 05:09 PM
2

I disagree with her in that just stopping whinning will help, it's also that a lot of these skeezy former drug addict dudes are really adept at manipulation, and are willing to say and do whatever it takes to win, and a lot of neckbeards are either too lazy, moral, or autistic to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 03:02 AM
1

Wow, on the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 02:54 AM
1

You don't have to google search it just use a mirror lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:32 AM
2

Right? How do people go 18 whole years without getting curious ONCE?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 03:05 AM
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I was never taught how to masturbate though, as well I was never caught masturbating, I just noticed it felt good.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 10:58 PM
0

I'm a bit surprised that it took till college. Maybe something like sophmore year is a bit more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 10:40 PM
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I don't know, you might not know what it is by name but like, the concept of never looking at your genitals with a mirror is weird as fuck to me. I did that just out of curiosity. I guess women aren't curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 10:33 PM
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You really didn't know what a clitoris was until college 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 10:29 PM
1

Women don't feel guilt, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 10:27 PM
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No, the incel argument is that ALL men, not just incels will lose interest in women because of sex robots. And as well the argument being retorted by me is that women do not care about sex robots period. For whatever reason. Which is something I've heard here frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 10:19 PM
1

This, well endowed dudes have more confidence, because that confidence comes from a place of reality, not just being made up fake confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:36 PM
1

Exactly, I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 08:34 PM
3

I'm definitely of the belief that nobody but incels will get any use out of sex robots, but articles like this don't bode well for the whole "why do incels think women care about sex robots" argument. Clearly there are SOME women who take umbrage with the idea of them, it's fucking stupid to pretend like there aren't. Edit: as well there is another article of women clearly in opposition to it. Imagine posting this much of a self own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 06:10 PM
3

No? Although hygiene and style matter, they usually improve mens situations from worse to just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 04:06 PM
2

If you're attractive, it means switch from promiscuity to committed relationships. If you're ugly it means lowering your standards. Very simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/20 04:05 PM
4

You're hardly feeling entitled to that money though. Being entitled would be going into the bank, without a gun, demanding the money, and then crying when you don't get it. Entitlement is all about the lack of effort, not morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 07:08 PM
8

I'm talking about men who are trying to pump and dump you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:42 PM
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You're not entitled, carefully lying and scheming is hard work, especially according to the women on PPD who would never ever in a million years get manipulated because they're just too smart and cunning. So you're not entitled to it, you've worked your ass off to get it and you reap the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 03:00 PM
1

"Weebdom" isn't a cultural phenomenon, anime isn't that popular dude. It's still on the very fringe of pop culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 02:54 PM
1

Reddit has a higher amount of leftwing people on it compared to reality which is a mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 12:52 PM
6

You're terminally gay unfortunately, it's untreatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:30 PM
6

Nikola Tesla died miserable and poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:26 PM
3

LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:25 PM
0

Daring today, are we?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 11:42 AM
11

I heard someone call Kanye West a incel not too long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:42 PM
1

Women want men who other men want, unless you're model tier levels of attractive it can be presumed that if you're a virgin that's not a choice you've made but a choice that's been made for you. It's that simple. Women assume that if other women have rejected you it's most likely for a good reason. Fortunately, lying exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:41 PM
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I can second this, a lot of working class guys are too fucking stupid to understand why it's pathetic and shameful to pay for a girls only fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:39 PM
5

If you're not asian I wouldn't lose sleep over it. It's not like white twinks are slaying out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:36 PM
0

It's natural though. Nothing sexual about a erection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:33 PM
2

Dudes rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:31 PM
5

Go ahead and make it legal for women to be toppless, you're powerless to stop me from getting hard. You will never "normalize" it to the point where it's not arousing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:29 PM
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"Gynecomastia is an enlargement or swelling of breast tissue in males. It is most commonly caused by male estrogen levels that are too high or are out of balance with testosterone levels." Literally the first thing you see when you google it lmao. It has nothing to do with being overweight. As for the rest of that stuff it's total horseshit. Guys who are hung also do foreplay just as often as small dicked dudes, giving them a fundemental advantage over small dicked dudes. Are you really trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:27 PM
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WTF is gynecomastia? Manboobs? Google it, but you can have gynecomastia without even being fat. And a girl doesn’t know if a guy has a micro penis or is swinging an elephant trunk just by looking at him Yes but you can still stop talking to someone after you find out they have a small dick (doesn't need to be a micropenis). What difference does it make getting rejected before the talking phase vs at 3rd base? You're getting rejected either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:14 PM
1

Yes but if you've got gynecomastia and a small dick having a strong jawline won't bail you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:51 PM
5

Holy shit this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:05 PM
1

I will concede that face is more important than body, but there's a ratio. Where if you're too bodily unattractive a good face won't save you, and a lot of cases being facially ugly as a guy can't be saved by being in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:27 PM
3

The best reason to not be rude is you let her know how much you care. As the old saying goes, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:18 AM
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They're a lot less common than you think, reddits big hay day is over especially among people under the age of 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:15 AM
4

I've never seen this love of bloated undefined fat guy muscles in any women under the age of 28 tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:14 AM
3

Value is relative and meaningless. A high value woman to a man is a pickme, a how value woman to a woman is someone who tows the party line.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:09 AM
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Just lie and it won't be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:02 AM
1

Not pill related
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:01 AM
1

So casual sex is immoral? Because that's not particularly personal or intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 03:01 AM
3

I feel the abyss staring back into me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 11:45 PM
6

This is ironic right
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 10:26 PM
3

Honestly it was even worse when there were same sex Q4 questions. It was basically like "Q4(samesex): do you have this experience that validates my own?" It's very circle jerky.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 08:46 AM
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The goal I've set is to reproduce and have a nice family 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 11:32 PM
1

You should have posted this in the incel/feminism/fds thread tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 11:09 PM
1

Interesting hypothesis...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 11:07 PM
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Imho I haven't seen a good Q4W in a long time, they're either thinnly veiled debate threads, or non-sub related questions that never provide interesting answers. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 11:06 PM
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It's still significantly more tangible than any other made up life goal. Of course nobody is special, just like the same as, again, any other living creature, but they all want to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 11:03 PM
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It's not meaningless at all, passing on your genes has been the goal of basically every vertebrate to ever live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:37 PM
1

The point is your argument about female sexuality being mental and not based off just physical attraction doesn't apply outside of LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:36 PM
3

you don’t get to just exist and have everything you want served to you on a platter. that’s not how shit works. You do if you're hot and you meet her in her slutty "phase".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:30 PM
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I'm male. Not sure who you mean by yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:12 PM
2

What in the motherfuck is this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:17 PM
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Because ideally you'd be in a relationship where the person you're dating is actually attracted to you enough to where they want to have sex with you without filling some domestic quota to have sex. Sex should be a mutually enjoyable experience, not a reward when you accumulate enough good boy points.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:33 PM
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I actually do believe in cooperative relationships, I just think they're significantly more likely to occur when both parties are relatively equal and aren't bringing baggage to the table. And the relationship where you're raising someone elses child is fundementally unequal from the get go. So it's pretty unlikely that a perfect cooperative mutually beneficial relationship is going to form from that. Ontop of that your whole argument is based on you cleverly ignoring and reinterpreting "forgot …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:30 PM
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Honestly? Which is better, getting hen pecked and lectured by a woman for 35 years until your heart decides to put you out of your mercy, or fucking that woman once and never thinking about her again for the rest of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:08 PM
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Because when you're young, and not an alcoholic, drinking alcohol is difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 04:30 PM
1

No kids, I would like to have and raise my own, I actually like kids, I just wouldn't invest time raising my own. I have goals outside of spreading my genes but it's most likely the one that's going to last the longest after my death considering I'm not particularly artistically talented.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 03:07 PM
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Not in the world of other accomplishments but compared to raising offspring that don't like you from a woman who most likely doesn't love you, yeah that's a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:56 PM
1

Yes, it does. A lot of men can't meet the criteria though so it's difficult to do. But considering most people getting sperm donations are usually umc or just flat our wealthy I'd say you're not just biologically winning but you're setting your kids up for a pretty good future as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:54 PM
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Okay? Someone hating me after I fuck them, especially if it's someone I will literally never see or hear from again is totally irrelevant to me and has no effect on my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:37 PM
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"Forgot" is the opportune word here. But it was just an example, one of these guys gets sex unconditionally, or more realistically with significantly less conditions (I.E. tell a joke at a bar and be good looking) and the other gets it conditionally by constantly kow towing to her demands. I don't see how you don't see that as loser behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:35 PM
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The one who doesn't lose sex for a week when he forgets to do the dishes sounds more like a winner to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:31 PM
22

Raising YOUR children is fufilling, raising someone elses isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:29 PM
12

I'd say this is less bad because at least your girlfriend is right along with you in terms of getting evolutionarily cuckolded. Versus the biomom having a inherent advantage over the step dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:27 PM
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Why would the biological father win in this case? The stepdad will still have kids (even if not biological) who will love him and remember him after he dies. The biological father who is not around, will have no family and his own kids will remember him as a douchebag. The legacy of your family members remembering you will fade quickly, where as your genetic legacy won't fade as quickly. Neither of them really matter when you're dead though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:25 PM
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Exactly my point. And you'll even find that in femdom subcultures they don't actually like or hold their subs in high regard outside of the bedroom. Like, they may be helping you get off, if you actually enjoy that sort of stuff, but I'd say very few actually like these men, and none of them genuinely respect them. It's a pretty stark contrast to the whole maledom/femsub matrix where you have innumerable people saying the sub is actually the one in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:56 PM
3

If you look up the ratio of submissive men to dominant women, you'll find it actually is!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:50 PM
1

I don't think rape and murder is equivalent to lying. Kind of a bad analogy bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:49 PM
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Yes because if you date a servile spineless man, you're going to resent him and be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:48 PM
4

In a lot of ways. A lot of RP principles are common sense/have existed before RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:47 PM
1

Yeah but you're presenting the issue as it makes you feel bad, the lying isn't the problem it's the regret and shame from lying. The better solution would be to stop regretting and being ashamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:45 PM
2

Seems like the issue in that case is weird morals then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:43 PM
2

But you could just as easily get the exact same results if you faked being authentically the things that women happen to like lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:37 PM
2

Yeah but you'd filter everyone. This is effectively a strategy to insure you never get past the first or second date because there almost virtually are absolutely no women willing to tolerate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:28 PM
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How exactly can you be honest about this upfront, like... on the first date are you supposed to say your mother didn't love you or something LMAO?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:23 PM
2

Definitely, any man who's not outwardly interesting (I.E. someone you'd consider generally boring until you know them a more intimately) you really begin to dread meeting a new fling or girlfriends friends. You're basically dating them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:25 PM
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What if he's fucking ugly? Like, even if you like him, if he makes you look bad when you're together and doesn't impress your friends that's definitely a reason to break up for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:22 PM
1

It's just kinda odd how rarely you hear about men dumping their girlfriends because their friends told them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:21 PM
3

Not to mention that men who truly understand women and have high emotional intelligence have a extremely tempting golden opportunity to manipulate, that other men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:15 PM
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I don't actually disagree, I'm pretty vanilla lol. I just think the wording of "sexual expectations" sounds more about frequency of sex than actual specific acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:45 PM
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I don't think women actually want men to be like women, they just want men to perfectly understand women as if they've lived their entire life as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:42 PM
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Please tell me you're referring to weird niche fetishes when you say "sexual expectations" and not just the hope of getting sex more than twice a week...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:40 PM
3

but who is claiming they can? Lots of people, this isn't that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:27 PM
3

No no, okay, you've never heard the whole like "Women can tell you're xyz that's why they don't like you irl" as a response to something posted online?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:26 PM
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Not really. Have you never held your tongue before in real life? It's that easy. I probably wouldn't be able to detect if some girl had a complex about men, I don't see how you really believe this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:58 PM
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I think you're missing the point here. I doubt you'd be able to tell if someone is writing misognystic rants on the internet unless they literally tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:20 PM
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Because they're fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:45 AM
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Women can detect immediately when you've made a misognystic comment online but can't detect the red flags that would indicate a abusive boyfriend, hmmm...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:59 AM
1

Low N and virgin aren't that different lol, if you're like 25 with an N count of 2 it isn't that different from being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:10 AM
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Women are attracted to men other women are attracted to, you can look that up. A man with no previous partners is a man who's been wanted by zero women, since it's a lot less common for men to be virgins by choice rather than by circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:55 PM
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I would never pay for phone sex but I've mutually masturbated over the phone a lot of times. My teenage years had a lot of long distance relationships lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:01 PM
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HELL FUCKING YES I KNEW IT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:00 PM
1

A pickme can easily undercut another female but a simp won't be able to undercut an attractive guy. A simp might out compete a broke beta but they're not going to out compete an attractive dude because the two of them offer different things that the woman wants and will get one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:17 AM
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But women don't actually like simps. Like, you could find love as a pickme, but I don't think the reverse is true for simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:12 PM
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Okay, also the comments on that thread are totally fucking off base. I've seen women expressing any view right of mao zedong being refered to as pickmes on websites like twitter and tiktok. PPD is super out of touch with youth culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:08 PM
1

I never should have skipped that thread!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:05 PM
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Not really, it's pretty common in youth culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:41 PM
2

Oh yeah exactly, a lot of these arguments presuppose that just because a guy is endowed he won't bother with foreplay but that's bullshit. Yeah, a guy with a huge dick who doesn't do foreplay and cums in 3 seconds will be worse than a guy with a average dick who does foreplay and lasts hours, but that's just a bullshit imagined scenario that doesn't exist in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:40 PM
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You're out of touch, I could find you a thousand videos of women saying "kill all men doesn't literally mean kill all men ugh, how could you think something so stupid?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:08 PM
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So pickmes are to women what scabs are to unions, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:58 PM
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Exactly, it screams of insecurity about being boring. People are so desperate to give themselves a label that might seperate themselves from the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 05:22 PM
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What is the counter argument to this actually? Like, if the meta is to just shower why do men with poor hygiene still have girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:32 PM
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-This is the ill treatment Im speaking of. If they enjoy a fulfiiling consensual sexual relationship then brilliant. But acting like she is someone something to be ashamed of is pretty dehumanising and immoral. Why, she's unattractive? He doesn't want to be known as a guy who dates unattractive women, I don't see how that's unfair. You feel sorry for the guy but there must be a reason he keeps going back. Maybe he really likes having sex with her, no regrets. He doesn't feel sorry for the guy sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:30 PM
2

What the fuck, is your flair ironic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:13 PM
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Whether or not someone has a little dick is pretty objective. The question isn't whether or not she thinks it's small it's whether or not the "motion of the ocean" actually matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:12 PM
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"My super power? Crying when someone else in the room is also crying, even when I'm not personally effected by what they're upset about. I'm kind of a bad ass 😎"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:02 PM
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People calling themselves an "empath" seems so cringe to me. Not that there's anything wrong with being a empath, it just feels very "I'm very boring and this is my identity" y'know?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:51 AM
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Hell yeah, not even in like a sub culture kinda way. There's something just intrinsically cool looking about eyeliner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:31 PM
10

Yeah, guyliner because it looks cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:17 PM
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No it's not? There's always going to be more men looking for both sex and commitment more than women. Women handle loneliness significantly better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 02:54 PM
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I still find it hard to believe, but either way I don't doubt you've not ran into many guys who enjoy it. Word of advice though to screen for this is avoid guys who are "straight" but aren't that into vaginas, that I know is kinda common, which surprises me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:30 PM
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It's HARDER but ultimately still easy. It's gone from very easy to just moderately easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:28 PM
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Because it's the goal of all Vertebrates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:49 AM
1

I think it's a generation thing, how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:45 AM
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There are a lot of men willing to give commitment. It's still easier to get commitment as a woman than it is as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:44 AM
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I don't know, all of my friends say they give oral and enjoy it. If you are actually attracted to women you will lol. I wouldn't consider myself generous because I consider it to be sexually gratifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:43 AM
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Perform, I don't think it's that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:37 AM
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Not her, but there is a decent amount of potential, definitely worth looksmaxxing. I'd advise you to play the social circle game and OLD if you can. Also study psychology and body language, it never hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 10:41 AM
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Figure out what she wants to hear and how she wants to hear it, say it, get laid, and then get out of there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 10:38 AM
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Yeah, pretty much every time me and my girlfriend have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 10:37 AM
1

Don't forget EQ (ability to manipulate)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 10:35 AM
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How can you not speak to men. I genuinely don't understand what's so difficult. If you fail you can just move onto a different guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 10:48 PM
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Doesn’t mean the activity wasn’t enjoyable or that she’s traumatized for life or anything. I've heard women on here say quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 02:38 PM
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I'm not arguing you don't like your fiance or that YOU don't need connection, but plenty of women don't need connection to have sex, if it was all or even most women casual sex wouldn't exist, do you think all these women are feeling a deep emotional connection with their tinder hookup? And eventually these women, who don't need emotional connection settle for guys who are less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:12 AM
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Not getting angry can be percieved by women as passive and weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:07 AM
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The whole robot angle is garbage. When people say emotion they mean vulnerability, don't be anxious, sad, frustrated or afraid. Every other emotion is fine. Women do not punish their boyfriends for not being vulnerable enough. Do you have a yearly crying quota for your man where if he doesn't meet it you will dump him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:06 AM
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and more sexually attracted. I don't buy that, honestly. I think it's sexual availability, not attraction. You're not worrying about other shit so you have more time to be sexually available. Real genuine attraction will make you down in spite of stress, what's going on or the content of that persons person's character.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 05:01 AM
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Marginally, and even then, it's not that she wants to have sex more because you listen to her problems, like it's not a turn on, it's just having her problems listened to removes a barrier of sorts, I.E. you're a lot more likely to be "in the mood" when you're not thinking about how much of a bitch your coworker is. You know what will increase the desire for sexual intimacy? Being hot, having abs, having a strong jawline, being over 6 ft, that's what really increases a desire for sexual intimacy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:49 AM
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Sure, my point still stands from my post that the average guy she's in a committed relationship will listen to her problems, and the guys who she's more sexually attracted to (and are thus more attractive and have a higher value) won't, so she settles for whoever will, while still ultimately not being that thrilled about the whole arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:42 AM
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You can do it on mobile too if you're willing to jump through a few hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:13 AM
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The advice should be find a hobby attractive to women, and learn how to fake enjoying that hobby if you can't find one that you don't authentically enjoy. A lot of hobbies can be poison to women. As for "work on yourself" it's nebulous and about as useful as telling someone to breathe. Just say hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:12 AM
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The half of the n count posts are science though lol. Like, there's a lot more empirical data for n count related discussion than there is pretty much any other topic on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:09 AM
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Yeah, that's true, I honestly think the "beta buxx" role is more "beta emotional support and listening to her bitch about work because nobody else wants to" but that doesn't have the same ring. Also I still think even if it's dual income she lives a cushier life because of the 2nd income, but so does he, so I guess that aspect is somewhat mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:07 AM
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Because he supports her, both financially and emotionally. She can always cheat if she wants to be sexually fufilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:38 PM
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giving the image of having options Bruh, how does this even work like "You know I could be raising the neighbors kids instead, just saying" like lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:35 PM
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You 100% should not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:32 PM
1

I don't know if I'd rather be gay, but I get quite a bit of attention from guys and I'm pretty confident I'd do better. But I can't say I'd rather be gay necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:30 PM
72

Is there any proof autism has increased, instead of rather the frequency of it's diagnosis has?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 07:03 PM
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Perhaps for good reason lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 11:46 AM
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I was raised considerably evangelical, I would say this didn't make much of a difference, aside from giving me an existential crisis at age 11 lol. But my falling away from the church had little to do with disagreements and more to do with a lack of faith spiritually, considering evangelical christianity puts a HUGE focus on the spiritual feely worshippy part of christianity I think if I was catholic or lutheran or went to a less spiritually focused church I probably would have never became agno…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 09:08 PM
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I don't think he's going to respond. He seems like he's only willing to engage people who aren't really able to argue that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 09:04 PM
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I think he means just more straight forward, he says what he wants rather than being all timid and saying like "if that's okay with you" and stupid shit like that. A girl can say no either way but one is more decisive and shows less investment and less fear of offending or bothering her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 03:28 PM
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Even this isn't really true, women who pursue effeminate men have a habit of verbally and emotionally abusing them. You wouldn't do that to someone you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:35 PM
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Literally yes, welcome to having an XY chromosome enjoy your stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:35 PM
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Okay? I didn't say they couldn't, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. I just said I'm glad to not be dating someone who believes in something so fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 01:55 PM
1

Yeah but it's fucking stupid, you're forgetting this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 01:51 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 10:43 PM
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Well I don't date men so, not really something I have to worry about. But it's just fucking annoying, I use tiktok because I'm young and all the time I'll see shit of like, a toxic couple or anything and girls in the comments will be like "This has pisces energy" like, what the fuck are you on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 10:42 PM
3

It's not reasonable to expect every man to be completely celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:49 PM
1

It depends on how muscular and what kind of build. Mesomorphic and ectomorphic body types with a good amount of lean muscle (think about how almost every male avenger looks) is attractive to most heterosexual women. Super buff endomorphic men aren't attractive to most women this, also goes for any body builder types.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:24 PM
1

Because I want to see the vagina of a woman I'm romantically interested in???
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:21 PM
2

This is actually really clever I've not considered this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:19 PM
5

It should be a resolved issue since it's literally proven straight up that N count correlates with likelihood of cheating and divorce??? So like until a counter study proves otherwise I'm not sure what's left to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:17 PM
6

God I'm so fucking thankful not to have a girlfriend into astrology jesus christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:16 PM
1

Sure I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:58 PM
2

Oh yeah, this is the second time I've been called out for this on reddit lol. I always get wary and weary mixed up lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 04:58 PM
2

Being spontaneous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:31 PM
2

Men should be just as weary of giving up emotional support to women they're not dating/fucking as they are giving resources to women they're not dating and fucking. This becomes less relevant as you get older but from ages 18-24 you really should be stingy with who you console. As the saying goes, why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:26 PM
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And none of them will admit they've ever been conned out of sex either lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:10 PM
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Honestly, negging is just teasing explained autistically and with a goal in mind. Most of the time you're not like "you're pretty cute for a fat girl" it's more like picking on a girl if she says something that sounds stupid or fumbles her words or mispronounces something. The only difference between negging and teasing is you're negging with a goal in mind, where as you might just tease for fun, but I think a lot of guys tease playfully because they've subconsciously made a connection between t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 08:14 PM
3

Tumblr is dead, but in 2013-2015 they had a vicegrip on feminism and have permanently effected the ideology. They may not be relevant now but they've already changed things massively.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 07:38 PM
4

Okay, you can laugh all you want but one has eyes and ears and the other only has the attention of the UMC academics, which make up a very small percentage of the population. It's the same reason why TERF feminism is in rapid decline, it has 0 appeal to lower class young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:19 PM
4

TRP ideas are old but the packaging and systemizing of them is relatively new. (I.E. less than 15 years old).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:16 PM
6

Feminist academics have less control of the ideology than 19 year olds on tumblr.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:13 PM
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CMV: Twitter and Tumblr have significantly more control of the trajectory of modern feminism than academia or any feminist thinker. See the decline of TERF feminism and how subscribers to that ideology are almost never under the age of 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:12 PM
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"The patriarchy hurts men" has been a major feminist talking point since 2012. For as much as feminists love to complain about men bringing up long dead irrelevant feminist thinkers like Dworkins you seem to be ignoring the sort of messages the ideology has been spitting out in the past 5 or 10 years. Go on tumblr and actually read where the ideology is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 06:10 PM
4

The issue is the fake inauthentic "Nice guy" and the genuine nice guy look identical up until the point of rejection and thus are both equally as likely to get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:33 PM
1

I've seen this sentiment a lot. But I feel like it's more common irl than on PPD. Hell it gets applied to dicks too with the whole sterotype of dudes with big dicks not doing any kind of foreplay what so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:29 PM
3

I agree with a lot of the black pill and even I highly doubt this will ever happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 02:28 PM
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This is a really really weird and off topic reply to a thread asking what dating strategies you consider to be unethical. For starters, I think you seriously overestimate how much women dislike redflags that are related to mental health, certain mental disorders are even attractive in women, narcissism is a good example. Where as some are very very unattractive, I.E. depression, co-dependent , autism/asperger's, anxiety. It primarily stems from these being related to vulnerability, introversion …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 10:52 PM
1

Also genuine question for those who actually agree with this sentiment, how do you tell the difference between a guy who tricked you into thinking he wanted a relationship, fucked you and left, with a guy who did want to have a relationship, fucked you, and then changed his mind and left. Post nut clarity is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:37 PM
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Women are pretty much seen as being justified in their insecurities depending on what it relates to. It's a lot easier to get away with complaining you can't get a man because you're ugly or fat or too tall than it is to complain about not getting a girl because you're ugly or short or have a small dick. However women and men are equally chastised for relationship based insecurity. I.E. jealousy and constant accusations of infidelity, I will concede this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:55 PM
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https://twitter.com/lethal_heroine/status/1326715575435988992?s=19 Thoughts? It seems like people aren't too on board in the comments lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:50 PM
3

I think people in those BDSM relationships that go beyond I guess just physical sensation (which I also don't get, but thats different) but determine the relationship between 2 people are people who should get mental help Oh yeah totally, and then they act smug even to other BDSM people for having it only be in the bedroom lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 05:07 PM
2

But, they're literally implying that the original intent of the film was a commentary on masculinity lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 02:23 PM
6

Couldn't women also pay for sex? So you've still got the edge of being able to get for free what men pay for lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 02:14 PM
3

No, although an all female remake of lord of the flies got a bit of controversy by subtly implying that if adolescent girls were stranded on an island they'd kill each other. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/01/entertainment/lord-flies-girl-remake/index.html Source^
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 02:13 PM
0

I think you're overrating just how ugly "ugly" girls are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/20 11:34 AM
1

Oh yeah, imagine trying to date as a guy who OPENLY has no interest in travel, like that's a death sentence for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 09:54 PM
106

Because it validates you as a man to be wanted by a woman, even an ugly one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:44 PM
3

I would say maybe because if you catch feelings early on it indicates you're clingy desperate and effeminate as a man. And obviously a woman would want to know about that, versus a guy hiding his interest and "playing it cool" and pretending to be aloof.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:42 PM
1

I think you seriously underestimate how boring and unlikable someone can be, while still being entirely "authentic". You seem to be suffering from the delusion that so long as a person takes care of themselves, works hard, and has good intentions that they simply HAVE to succeed in romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 08:39 PM
2

Trying to be someone you are not This one is a good one though...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:40 PM
1

Just be your authentic self so it makes it easier for women to figure out if you're worth dating? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:16 PM
4

I'm male. The question is what women here find to be unethical strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:16 PM
3

I'm sorry but yes, having insecurities that are based primarily in how it will affect your life are more legitimate than insecurities based on how you feel when you look in the mirror. It's the reason why more women have eating disorders than men, because for those women they don't want to be thin because of the tangible advantages it helps them attain and the tangible disadvantages that come with not being thin, but because they're trying to meet a beauty standard they've set for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:14 PM
2

Does this include lying by omission?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:11 PM
9

Women don't wear makeup for men, they wear it for themselves and for the accolades of other women. Also natural makeup is easy to spot if you're in 5 feet of a woman and the only men who can't tell are literally morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 06:00 PM
9

Most male insecurity is justified. 9/10 times if a man is insecure about a physical trait it's likely he has or will be rejected because of said trait, where as women will be insecure about traits or parts of their physical appearance that literally no man gives a fuck about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 05:38 PM
1

A lot of younger dudes are jerking off to women who more or less don't look like pornstars. Normal looking women in porn is a pretty big thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:32 PM
2

To be honest I always pictured you as a 30 something giga normie female lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 10:10 PM
5

I never would have imagined you were a weeb...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 10:09 PM
5

A bit of a less serious one. That 90% of men don't vocalize during sex naturally. Men are quiet during sex naturally and they're not holding anything back, and chances are if a guy is vocalizing with you during sex it's because he knows you enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 10:04 PM
1

Men also want to but don't have the negotiating power to make it a requirement. A lot of RP complaints (justifably) relate to their replacability.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:46 PM
1

Yeah but just think if that actually worked. Imagine meeting your soulmate through mobile scrabble.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:45 PM
1

Also it doesn't help that the opposite is true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:31 PM
1

This will make me want to have sex with you Unless you deliver on this it's only going to work once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:30 PM
5

go to therapy This one especially, people really can't grasp that someone's entire problem can just soley be that they don't have a girlfriend, and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:29 PM
1

Definitely. But I know plenty of guys that would roll their eyes at the whole "nothing is sexier than doing the dishes". Of course I'm sure it works on guys who are stupid, of which there is no shortage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:23 PM
1

Hey! I'm glad you're being honest about it being a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:19 PM
-1

Do you also believe in an omnipotent sky daddy that punishes the wicked and rewards the righteous?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 04:29 PM
8

Because they're an easy boogey man that's offensive to both sides of the aisle politically. On the left because they're misognystic, on the right because they indulge in self pity and don't boot strap often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 04:27 PM
1

Yeah, they're not. Beneficial to have in a relationship sure, but not sexy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 04:23 PM
2

100%, my point is if you wanna have a bunch of sex fine, just don't have a pretent relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 11:59 PM
2

Idk using your emotional connection to leverage and convincing a monogamist who doesn't want to be in a polyamorous relationship to be in one seems more sociopathic than just having NSA promiscuous sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 11:37 PM
5

Okay, but you can't expect people to act completely against their own best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 08:16 PM
4

Well you're an anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 08:15 PM
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