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I'm looking at how divorce laws work in France and indeed French can sue their spouses for damages. Not just for adultery, for whole trange of things. French are based!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:13 PM
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Yup and single men in that imaginary village will be more then happy contributing to raising your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:02 PM
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Do you have a source to confirm that, a real world example? Not because I'm saying you are wrong, but because I am interested in it, I tried googling and... got jack shit 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:41 PM
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Well, monogamous marriage is the dominant marriage structure worldwide because of Christian European colonialism. Which doesn't mean monogamy is a bad thing. Monogamous societies did end up being more sucesfull then anything else. Overwhelming majority of men do spend their energy raising kids, are productive and are placated by having a family. While polygamous societies... lots of single men which have to be "used" for constant wars, or will start civil wars on their own. I'm not for compulsor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:39 PM
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This is why I hate serial monogamy... I get to see it's results. Poor woman, poor her parents, poor children. But also there is some man out there which will stay single for his entire life, because he wasn't cool enough. While some fuckboy is making children around and lets other raise them. P.S. wouldn't be surprised if he is cheating on his girlfriend as well end ends up leaving her too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:59 PM
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I'm not thinking conforming to those ancient roles in which man is patriarch is the only one working, woman's place is in the kitchen. I'm thinking man and woman get together, start a family have kids and stick together raising those kids. Long term monogamy. As for family roles I think it would be best for both parents to work but less then 40 hours a day, and for men to spend more time with their kids. As for what progressives want, I believed that most progressives still think monogamy is bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:41 PM
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If you had generational wealth backing you, two parents raising you properly that's a huge privilege and boost in life recognized by every study out there. But marriage as it is doesn't really serve to bind spouse's into fullfiling obligations. In a huge twist of irony progressives do recognize these privileges. And want to destroy nuclear family...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:15 PM
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This is just an extreme example of men being railed by the system though. I know examples of women being railed even harder. I knew a couple which had three children, both of them were working, they didn't accumulate any wealth. He cheated, she started divorce. Since they didn't accumulate any wealth there was nothing to split, wife got custody, he had to pay child support. But, guy quit his job and started working illegaly in different country. He doesn't have any reported income so he doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:05 PM
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If contract is breached other party can sue for damages... except for marriage. If somebody scams you, you can sue for damages... except if somebody scams you into raising a child which is not your own. Yup, marriage only exists to divide accumulated wealth and to make divorce lawyers rich. Vows should be changed accordingly. Which is why me, my sister, and a whole bunch of our friends never married. We simply cohabitate. Also my sister, a single mom of three gets a lot of social benefits while …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:19 AM
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I bet your mom never felt like hitting the wall. And most people which chose the "easy" route do end up hitting a wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:16 PM
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I warmly recomend you join a debate club. That way you get to hear people laughing at you when you come up with these "conclusions".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:11 PM
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No. Real world works very differently then whatever you imagine in your head. We do not separate into gender tribes, we do not justify shitty behaviour just because culprits have same genitals as we do. Men and women had resentment toward that woman and the man which promoted her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:59 AM
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so, a woman who has to suck dick to climb the corporate ladder VS a man who is promoted just because he's a man Sorry but real world is not like that la-la land which you have in your head where men have all the privilege and woman is always a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 08:47 AM
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Power and respect are not the same thing though. Just one IRL example. I know a woman which got promotion because she was (intentionally) making managers cock hard. Doing so did not grant her respect of her coworkers, quite the opposite. But she did use her sexuality to climb to a position of power above us men and women which weren't making managers cock hard. Using her sexuality alone will not put her on the tip of the piramid, but it sure as hell puts her above the place she realistically des…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:58 PM
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No I'm not. By the way you do know that people which laugh for no good reason look incredibly dumb? You do realize that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:58 PM
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No shit Sherlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:37 PM
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Hey I'm not some kind of activist trying to influence women over the internet. But over the years interet women regularly try to infuence me...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:21 PM
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The thing about being BI is, I actually get to compare. Guy sucked my cock a couple of times, was order leagues better then best blowjobs women gave me. So from my perspective, gender which is worse at providing orgasms also complains way more about receiving them... ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:41 PM
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Nobody is better at making yourself orgasm than you. This is true for everyone. Everyone can masturbate themselves faster than another person can. I'm going to disagree with this part because I can go down on her, suck her clitoris, massage her G spot, finger her asshole, at the same time giving her a orgasm she could never achieve on her own. And I'm sure women could give me blowjobs which would blow my mind away, if they weren't so passive. When I was younger I made a huge mistake of not being…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:25 PM
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I didn't made a conscious decision that high n women are less desireable LTR partners. I feel that such women are less valuable as partners, relationship with such women would make me feel less fullfiled. I simply prefer what makes me feel better, as such there is nothing gratuitous about my preference. And there is a whole bunch of studies which confirms this feeling is not a phobia, not an irrational fear, not... just insecurity. Since this fear is not bad for me, I'm not going to change it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:25 PM
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Yes I would, and before you point out the hypocrisy... Yes I do want to fuck a bunch of women, yes I do want to marry a low N woman, but there are other needs/wants I have, needs for honesty, fairness, ballance. And I have to compromise between them. I do want a LTR with women that have certain "amount" of purity, since I want things to be fair I'm keeping a certain "amount" of purity myself. Yes I have rejected casual sex in past, because even though I could have done it secretly, I did felt it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:23 AM
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The irony of it all is that feminist love to tell men "privileges that you have are invisible to you". While they themselves are utterly blind to all privileges they have and have a fucking electron microscope for detecting any bit of privilege men might have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:15 AM
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Well duh... why would I care about these women from the internet which think I'm privileged, evil, want to use me as a tool, dismiss every problem I have, or simply blame patriarchy for every problem I have. Want to shape me in a way that convenients them, their agendas, giving zero fucks about negative impact on my wellbeing. I care about women in my social circle, which surprise do care about me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:37 AM
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Even in those free spaces, won’t most of the women still all chase the few hottest men? Hottest men will get most attention, but no most women will not case after few hottest men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:00 AM
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Centrists/moderates are the sane ones, going lib, auth, left, right... => less sane, more extreme. Men have been stable politically over the years, with most men being moderate/centrists. Women have been becoming more and more lib over the years, today there are more lib women then moderate ones... women are going more and more extreme. Men didn't become more extreme, democratic party did... by leaning too progresive and ignoring important existential issues they lost support of people who were …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:59 PM
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Some women will pull out all kinds of manipulative crap to keep their orbiter in orbit... some men do this shit to to keep spinning their plates. But yeh, I'm not going to coddle anybody who is suffering because they are refusing to "pull the band-aid". Learn to say no, set a border, enforce a border, walk away... or be shamed for being a pussy. Best way to help them really.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:11 AM
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I do have empathy for people which found themselves in the friendzone. Despite what the people of the internet are saying, IRL shit does happen. But not for people which are "stuck" in the friendzone, because. 100% proven method to leave the friendzone is to... just walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:44 AM
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We do have a study linking far-right with psychopathy and narcissism. We do have a study liking far-left, and a study linking feminism and a study linking LGBT activism with psychopathy and narcissism. This fits into my observations just fine... most activists do not have honest intentions. They are using a supposedly noble cause as a "dark vessel" from which they get to abuse, troll, spew their hate, all while claiming moral superiority, virtue signaling, seeking power. Which ends up with peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:16 PM
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Yep. These women are veting for somebody who will validate their vanity. Somebody who will lovebomb them, chase after them, won't take a no for an answer. Just so happens that guys which don't take a no for an answer... well they don't take a no for an answer. I do have a nasty study which says that narcissistic women are far more likely to end up being physically abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 12:14 AM
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You are pulling off incredible levels of mental gymnastics to avoid acknowledging two very simple truths. Women get horny too. Women can be dumb too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:38 PM
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“I can fix him” isn’t horniness. It’s insecurity. It’s saying “if I can fix him…if he’ll change for me, then I’m worth something.” If this was true then women would also find fat guys and make them hit the gym. Which is not happening is it? It happens when woman sees attractive guy which makes pussy goes moist, but guy does have a nasty personality, which she will fix and get herself a very attractive and kind boyfriend. Spoiler alert she gets a black eye instead. If you can read people well eno…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:25 PM
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Dude, I'm a survivor of child abuse Welcome to the club I guess. and a psychologist I looked at your post history, and I'm going to go with "naaaaah, no you are not". So, again, try to have a Little. Bit. Of. Fucking. Empathy. When I see self-entitled people falling for love-bombing, I do feel secondhand embarrassment. I would feel embarrased in their shoes, so that's what my empathic feeling is. I could never feel the empathy you want me to, because I'm as self-entitled... sorry I guess. I didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:10 PM
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Survivors of child abuse have all of their alarms light up at receiving even normal levels of affection. Which is why they often end up in abusive relationship with no love bombing needed. They literaly see abuse as normal and suspect people who are treating them fairly. Holy fuck do I have empathy for this group of people. Zero empathy for self-entitled people looking for a prince on white horse. Ones which think love-bombing is the norm. Even though they feel like they deserve all the empathy …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:34 PM
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In stockholms syndrome victim can't just walk away... can they?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:26 PM
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It's not Stockholm syndrome... more like heroin really. Man treats woman, usually below his league like a goddess, love bombs her, showers her with affection, gifts, strokes her ego, makes her feel like a queen. Woman loves this very, very much... feels like heroin. Once she is hooked, man turns abusive. Woman: I want to help him to be the man I think he is. What woman actually means: I want to turn him back into that guy which was kissing the ground I was walking on. I will put up with this abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:18 PM
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I sure as hell can notice covert ones too. When woman is lovebombing me, or somebody is being too nice to me I'm thinking "wait a second, I dont deserve this. What's the catch?". Be down to earth, know your worth, nurture two way relationships, do not become dependent on anyone... you are not going to get abused. Feel entitled to a one way relationship => you get abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:26 PM
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Abusers are casting their net everywhere. People which are susceptible to manipulation employed by abusers are the ones getting caught in the net. But also just like men, women can fall for abusive guy just due to being horny... the "I can fix him".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:21 PM
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When somebody is being too nice, that's also a huge red flag. When somebody is treating me too nice I'm thinking "whoa, I don't deserve this, what's the catch?".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:18 PM
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Covert abusers usually do start a relationship which is a one way street, they love bomb their target in every possible way. When people who are down to earth are being lovebombed, their brain goes "hey I don't deserve this kind of treatment, something is wrong, yellow alert." Being down to earth is what protects us from this form of abuse. Feeling entitled to a prince on the white horse which will kiss the ground on which we walk on is what opens us up to abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:11 PM
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The ones you could identify were because Because they were obvious, and people which couldn't see them were being dumb or horny... as simple as that. When man is being dumb, we can say he is thinking with his dick. That is socially acceptable. But when woman is being dumb tribe XX argues that she was actually the victim. Yeah she was the victim... because she was dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:22 PM
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Because they are so blatantly obvious to me. Yes they lie, they manipulate, they speak sweet nothings, promise Moon and stars... all of which is obvious as fuck. Grown people falling for this shit are dumb as a brick. I did met some women which were legit smart, and still ended up in abusive relationships. But this happened because they were forced to chose between several shitty choices. Not unlike when I had to chose between working for super-shitty company or being hungry. But far more women …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:47 PM
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I would disagree on first one, because I'm a BI guy, never had sex with another guy and I'm 40. It's not like I'm craving dicks and losing sleep over what I'm missing out 😂 I'm traditional, loyal. But hey I'm not denying your right to have your preferences no matter what they are. No mater if racist, sexist... our freedom to chose with who we have relationships is one of our most basic freedoms. I'm only pissed at people which have their preferences but deny the right of other gender to have the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:54 AM
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Yeah, if I couldn’t defend myself, I’d run away too. Buh-bye 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:29 AM
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Well you decided that hoe-math is entertainment, misogyny masquerading as a coherent belief system. Based on what? Defend your definition? And then I will defend my decision to label you as a homophobe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:22 AM
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Sorry but I refuse to debate with homophobes. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:19 AM
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Hoe_math is entertainment, but it’s more misogyny masquerading as a coherent belief system. If you really believe that, then I don't have anything of value to exchange with you. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:07 AM
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What parts... TRP was supposed to be a simple to use guide on sex and relationships. But since a bunch of people decided that finding out women like fit confident guys makes them scientists, sociologists, psychologists, philosophers... useful stuff is buried under a shit ton of hubris. As a positive example I would like to point out youtuber hoe_math which explains psychological aspect in a simple way, with pictures made with colorful crayons and doesn't call all women hoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:59 AM
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Some people learn redpill naturaly, some people are unsucesful because they are missing just one or two things... which can easily be fixed. Some people got shat on by the genetic lottery, and I do feel sorry for them, but... if that is the case, just give the fuck up and do something else. And some people are just fucking lazy. They know women like fit guys which have status, a goal in life, social skills. They know how to achieve it, but they are not doing anything about it... instead they pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:45 AM
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The study directly stated it was to maintain status as the status was threatened by a lower value males initiation. So why does it only happen after being rejected by a higher value man? Either study conclusion is wrong, or your memory is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:10 AM
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I'd say TRP actually works. It's just that people which do embody it's ideas are out there fucking. While instant gratification people are on the internet using TRP to feed their revenge fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:09 AM
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You are trying to argue she is insulted in the rejection case but not the approach case. Yup and so far I didn't heard a single solid argument that this isn't the case. Now be a propper Red Piller, shut off those "alpha widow, beta bob" emotions, turn logic to 11 and think again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:06 AM
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I remember that social experiment but I think you are interperting it wrong. When higher value male rejects a woman THEN her status is under question. Then she feels insecure. Then she feels like she has to re-establish her value. And then she rejects low value man. Low value man approaching doesn't attack value. High value man rejecting does. And low value man is used to re-establish that value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:53 PM
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Around 1/4 of women in my generation did it, which at the time made me believe women are 💩 But as I grew older and started to live in different places I realized that I wasn't really growing up in average community. At my place of growing up, my generation was insanely worse then previous and next one in every metric... drug abuse, alcoholism, rape, highschool dropout rape, teenage pregnancy, everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:01 PM
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I'd guess women would find guy on the left to be more attractive. Because due to the camera angle, guy on the right ends up looking short. I mean just look at those short legs and big head... he looks like 5'. If you want to score on Tinder, learn how to take a fucking photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:42 PM
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It's because they feel attacked because they are at risk of losing their status. Bullshit, because... imagine Hunchback of Notre-Dame approaching Scarlett Johansson in a bar. Why would that reduce her value? Also if women value is being attacked, why would she draw attention to that event? Why do women start talking on their own about all these men which were making a move on them? Why does a woman keep a bunch of messages from a guy which "annoyed" her, and is showing them around? It's bragplai…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:48 PM
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I'd like to ask a couple of questions. What about a bisexual man which never had sex with another man? Bisexual man which received a blowjob in the past. Bisexual man which was a top in the past but was never fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:32 AM
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Users like heroin too, that doesn't mean it's healthy for them. Dating apps and their relationship with body image, mental health and wellbeing: A systematic review - ScienceDirect Despite their popularity, a growing body of research suggests that mobile dating may have adverse implications for users' body image, mental health and wellbeing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 07:37 PM
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Well you know who I find to be annoying? Nice looking woman approaches me, smiles, bats her eyelashes, then tries to sell me some shit I don't need. So I politely tell her I'm not interested. But she isn't taking no for an answer, she is being annoying and frankly creepy... Did this happen to you as well? Why is nobody talking about these women stalking us, approaching us at the most inappropriate places and trying to economically use us?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:31 PM
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Except these women tended to end up with guys which were above average... Some of them were even flirty with me but back when I was young my stupid brain was saying (dude that's just your imagination, hit the cold shower). And do keep in mind I didn't say all unattractive men were shooting up, I would say overwhelming majority didn't. Let's say ~5% of unattractive men, they have litterally no shame and will shoot their shot with fucking everybody, they will approach 20 women per day, get rejecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:13 PM
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I don't know the details The details of this relationship are kinda important. But even if we assume Sharpe was a fucking angel... he was dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:00 PM
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Attractive guys sure as hell do approach women. But during my life I did heard several very attractive women complaining they only get approached by unattractive men which actually makes sense. Unattractive men don't really lose anything for being rejected by very attractive women. Attractive men on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:25 PM
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My solution is to not directly approach, but just to engage in conversation, and see where things are going. At the end of the day when I do engage with a woman, that doesn't mean I already picked her, I might find her interesting, and want to find out more about her. I might genuinely just want a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:16 PM
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It's virtue signaling. But I do acknowledge that sadists would find humiliating somebody to be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:34 PM
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So I'm guessing Sharpe hired Zuniga as a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:58 PM
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Well I would argue starthing a relationship with 19yo crazy woman is a bad idea. But it's not like athletes are the brightest of the bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:58 PM
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Oh you finally found something to feel victimized about? I'm not even going to ruin this for you. Go ahead tap yourself on the back for women still being perpetual victims in every scenario in your own head. And... the rest of us will debate this and stay on-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:16 PM
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Even further down she is switching the narrative again into "men hate women". She is not here to debate the point you have made. She is here to say men are bad and women are victims...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:10 PM
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Do you realize that this is a debate sub, we are debating about the subject OP has posted. And once again you are completly going offtopic, reframing the subject into "angry men hating women". Stop reframing things to put yourself into position of victim, it's bad for you. It really is. But more importantly I find it annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 12:52 PM
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"Grass is greener on the other side" We miss what we don't have and don't appreciate what we do have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:18 AM
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But you automatically assumed that's all there is to it. What about normal women which find annoying people to be annoying, but will politely reject unattractive but polite man. And basic bitch which will make drama about unattractive man daring to approach her... so she can covertly virtue signal to everyone her high value? Now I'm a grown man living in real world with real friends, real women-friends, and in this real world even other women do call out such behaviour. So good luck with "all wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:13 AM
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I would describe it as covert bragging, a self-promotion in which person avoids directly describing their value... insecure women do this a lot... What insecure woman really wants is for everyone too see that she was approached by that guy, and she rejected him, but it can't come out as bragging. So insecure women will repack it as something else, something presentable. When insecure woman is being approached, she might stir up drama to draw attention to the situation, so everyone gets to see he…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:49 AM
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OP wasn't taking about women being cornered though...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:56 AM
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And apparently microplastic are lowering our libido and fertility too. And most study point that contracepcive pills lower sex drive in women too. And if that wasn't enough lets mention chemicals called hormone disruptors as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:00 PM
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shut ins on the internet are telling you Yup, media has created this image that buch of people are hooking up with strangers, but it's actually a minority of men and women. Most people are still monogamous, but we are having less sex, spend more time being single, marry at later dates, even masturbate less. I'd guess unhealthy lifestyle, porn, women being too picky, porn... probably more causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:27 PM
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I would criticize the show for being vague on all events prior to the arest. Ends up being a warning call, but one which is vague on the problems... Adolescence mainly deals with events starting from the arrest, ending with the impact on boy family. Would be nice to have another season going from the past to the stabbing... dealing better with the causes which lead to stabbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:21 AM
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You should actually compare happines of single and married women, single and married men to draw a conclusion on which gender ends up being more miserable. But that's not even important... Important bit is that single men and women end up being worse of then maried men and women. So the narrative of women ain't needing no man... well yeah, but woman is better of with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:28 AM
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Have you ever considered that you might have that timeline backwards? Missed the part where I voted left for the past 20 years, left which has pushing for women's rights? And is completly deaf when it comes to male specific problems? How come it's only a problem when men behave selfish? Well nothing about you backs this up but okay! Were you under impression I'm trying to win your approval? Let me demonstrate how little fucks I give by not even bothering to read the rest of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:14 AM
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Nope. Because what I am doing is reflecting on what is being thrown at me. If you are being selfish to me, then I will be selfish to you. If you want me to be nice to you, be nice to me. I have a feeling this wasn't a tough decision for you. Like I doubt anyone twisted your arm over supporting far right politicians. If that was true I wouldn't be voting for politicians on the left for around 20 years. I was voting in the interest of people which were being selfish. Men can be selfish too. I'm al…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:54 PM
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to highlight that there needs to be a collective paradigm shift in how we understand and support kids today. Personally I took it that way. Not some patch but a paradigm shift.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:25 PM
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ik we’re talking elsewhere but just saw this reply, canonically we only know she sent 3 emojis. the only other hint we get that she may have said more was “it looks like she’s being nice, right?” so she possibly attached the emojis to sarcastic/superficially nice comments but that’s not even confirmed Maybe trust the detective son which did say Jamie was being bullied? interesting take on it being a dog whistle, i can buy that. i’d prefer to plainly call it cyberbullying bc that’s what it is for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:23 PM
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hey cheers to that honestly. you don’t spend a lot of time scrolling sites? is this post/sub one of the rare times you do or did you search for it? just curious Nah I only use reddit as a social network because... again this site has less algoritms screwing up my brain, and some subs are echo chambers, but you can easily avoid them. Last time I went to check out Facebook... complete clusterfuck. And I did search for articles on Adolescence, I stumbled upon subs where people talked about it a cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:10 PM
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For women to man up against mysogony? Isn't that what they're doing? Asking goverment and men to do something about it, isn't maning up. Like if you/men don't care, and aren't putting any effort to make changes, there's nothing they can do but continue on and tell you to fix your own problems. What would need to be done for you to consider the problem addressed? At this point I'm willing to let those politicians on the far-right give it a try, so... guess time will tell. I would understand this …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:00 PM
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Google is your friend. Here let me help google.com
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:10 PM
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White Dudes for Harris? Holy fucking shit, that was such a bad combination of cringe and fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:10 PM
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That sounds fun... have to check that sub out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:06 PM
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I don't even have an algoritm because I use search engines, youtube, without being loged in, cookies. Makes internet a far more interesting place, like it used to be before algorithms. Katie posted 3 mean emojis on his insta Detective's son simply took out three messages as an example. If situation was the other way around, it was a girl receiving those messages on social media then decided to kill herself. Would it also be just three mean emojis?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:02 PM
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I would, because I put children first. Has to do with traditional values...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:55 PM
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So therapy doesn't count as an answer to men/boys problems because society isn't taking boys/mens problems (lol at that btw) seriously? No. My answer to people/groups which want to draw my attention to the problem of mysogony, yet fail to acknowledge boys/men problem is that proper solution for mysogony is for women to men up. Which could also be interpreted as "I don't give a fuck about your problems either". This is well aligned with my philosophy of simply reflecting back, of being a mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:53 PM
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Therapists are less mentally equiped to deal with male issues. Source: I went to four different therapists, turns out Claude AI is better then them and like 100 times cheaper too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:49 PM
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“primary bully” is way too strong for someone who canonically only sent him 3 mean emojis She didn't sent him three emojis, she commented on his posts using emojis which had in-group meanings. The term best describing this behaviour is called Dog Whistling. It's interesting how this behaviour is being recognized when it is used against left, minorities, women... but when woman uses it against, then people start playing dumb. The thing with plaing dumb though... people might actually think you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:46 PM
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Idk. It'd be cool if they did another season directly from his point of view or something. This show was going from the arrest into the future. Would be nice to have another season going from the past to the murder, revealing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:52 PM
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Yup. On the internet I read several sarcastic or obviously bullshit takes which made me genuinelly laugh, only to find out that OP was dead serious. And I keep forgetting that I can't communicate on the internet the way I do in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:42 PM
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Also every article about the TV show focused on misogyny. PM Sir Keir Starmer focused in his talk on misogynistic manosphere influencers, didn't said a word about bulling. No, it's not the algorithm, it's 9612354325623th case of society orbiting around women. To the point that fictional girl character being killed in a fictional TV show is creating far larger panic then reality... reality in which girls are not being stabbed by misogynistic boys. But boys are killing themselves at a rate 3x high…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:29 PM
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I would argue that it is possible dad and Jamie do have biological tendency to lash out. That's actually a thing, people with smaller Amygdala are easier to lash out, people with larger one are anxious. But dad didn't go around stabbing people. Even with this problem he was functional, wasn't abusing his family. Even under very serious stress in the last episode, lashed out at that jerk-boy, then stopped himself. But his boy which was neglected, exposed to toxic enviroment in school, spiraled do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:18 PM
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When person or society is ready to take boys/mens problems seriously, then I am willing for constructive talk, and "go to therapy" is one of serious answers. If not, answer is "just man up", "pull yourself by the bootstraps", "join the military"...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:03 PM
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Jamie suffered from benign neglect from both parents imo lol Both of them were raised in different times. Even when wisdom is being transfered from generation to generation, society is changing at such pace that wisdom doesn't have answers for new challenges. And sometimes wisdom is not being passed on so young people have to seek wisdom on their own, stumbling on people like Tate, gangsters, feminists, learning about life from television shows which are not made for education but for entertainm…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:59 PM
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So these peope want to moral police our vurnerable gay men into hiding their COCK outline? That's homophobic as fuck, these people should be shamed for moral policing our beautiful gay men, a minority we care about so much!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:45 PM
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Again, can't use that excuse, because you used the word "Suicide" in the same sentence. Actually I can and if you have a problem with that feel free to write a 3000 word essay on why I shouldn't be doing that and send it on my email [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) Yeah, that's the point. The dad was shown as an innocent, sad man Watched sports while his son was spending entire days in his room surfing internet? Father just didn't knew how damaging this was because he was rais…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:31 PM
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Ha! Are you saying the couples like the one in the show are exhibiting “fatherless behavior” too? I’ve always associated that with dads not being in the home or physically absent. Yes! It's not just about having a father in home, it's about having involved father. If I was Jamies father and I saw him spending so much time alone in his room, surfing internet, or playing games... I would drag his ass out, we would talk about shit, we would do manly man activities. Now I myself didn't had a father …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:19 PM
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Jamie tried to take advantage of a girl who’s been bullied for having her private photos leaked, she has enough self respect to know Jamie is just trying to do this based on his online views of women. Jamie didn't tried to take advantage of Katie, he tried to take advantage of the situation he didn't create. Jamie was a low value man, he saw Katie being made low value... he moved in. Jamie then decides to scare her with a knife because she’s rejected him snd when she didn’t comply he killed her.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:12 PM
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Which is why I fucking love the term "fatherless behavior" even though it is a slang term, because for a change it is pointing out to the root problem. Lack of father's involvement in raising their child. Don't want your children to end up behaving like that? Then for men, fucking raise your kids, for women pick a man who is commited to raising his kids. For men and women which are exibiting "fatherless behavior", you just got the cause served right on your platter... enjoy the wonderful experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:03 PM
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Weak people use internet to vomit their frustrations, to bully, not risking a black eye, not experiencing social consequences. Which turned internet into septic tank of humanity. Chad Jr. was the one which shat all over Katie, by spreading her nudes, but he doesn't get shit for that. Katie was using internet to shit all over Jamie, using emoji symbolism to do it in covert way, thinking she can do it without consequences. But to be fair, Jamie himself was venting his own frustrations on internet,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:57 PM
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It's not completely ignored. It's discussed more prominently than Jamie's bullying of Katie, given that the story is from Jamie and his sympathetic family's perspective, and Katie is dead, so her side of the story is only expressed by her friends. Every discussion of this show I saw so far was completly ignoring it, and was oblivious to all the nuisances in the show. You don't even have the decency to say "Boys committing suicide"? You can't even use the "I was trying to avoid censors" excuse, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:43 PM
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I was just being super biased in favour of men. To point out your own bias in favour of women. Note to myself: Just say it bluntly in future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:26 PM
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How most women, including my 60 year old mom, interpreted the first episode: Completly biased in favour of women? He’s not a reliable narrator. But detective's son said he was bullied by women, and pointed out how emojis are being used to covertly bully. Ever been bullied by other women? Were they bullying openly or covertly? Also who the hell wants to ask their “bully” out on a date? Offcourse she didn't accept his invitation to a date, that's not a issue here. Issue is after being asked out, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:24 PM
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Before I read that statistic I was assuming that people which had a failed marriage behind themselves would learn from previous mistakes, and have a lower chance of divorce in next marriage. But it looks like people divorced due to a trait (causing problems in marriage, not trying hard enough in marriage) which they then carry on into their second marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:17 PM
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Sorry stabbing did happen, but Jamie allegedly stabed that poor girl. If you ask me she was probably stabbed by another woman. And Katies nude which was allegedly shared by chad Jr. I think it was actually shared by another woman. This is very obviously a case of misogynistic women terrorizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:16 PM
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pre alleged bullying Before the alleged stabbing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:03 PM
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But Jamie being bullied by Katie is completly ignored. You know what else is being ignored while public is having a moral panic due to boys stabbing girls, which... doesn't really happen in real life? In UK suicide is one of the leading cause of young people's deaths, with boys unaliving themselves at the rate 3x higher then women. Now tell me again how mysogony is a huge problem and I will tell you to just man up. Because that's the answer boys/men get for all their problems since forewer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:01 PM
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And this show did get this part very much right. Victims of bullying do tend to redirect bullying to someone even more vurnerable. Until the most vurnerable person in the group is being bullied by everyone. But in real life UK doesn't have an epidemic of boys stabbing girls. It has a high rate of teenagers unaliving themselves, sc being one of the leading causes of death for young people, girls attempting more often, but boys unaliving themselves 3x more often then girls. But public has a moral …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:43 PM
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I never said that. What I did say is that men with high body count tend to be the biggest sexists/mysgonists. They just don't show that in front of women... And this study didn't made a separation between sexually experienced men which have stable relationships, and sexually experienced men which have high body count, did it? Now if this last group is so nice, why do women complain about the "golden cock syndrome"? Why does this study find that people with high body count rank higher in narcissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:24 PM
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Doesn't this run contrary to the commonly held view on this sub that very sexually experienced men (aka Chads) are bigger misogynists than sexually inexperienced men? From my experience men with high body counts had the most misogynistic takes on women. However they acted in front of women (because duh) and were slutshaming women in front of other men. Men which had stable relationships with women had the most positive opinions about women. While men which lacked sexual experience were either th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:07 PM
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Let's do this step by step. Chad boy shares Kate's nudes, which makes her a target of mockery/bullying, this girls sinks to the bottom of the hierarchy. Jamie employs his RP knowledge, he thinks that now he stands a chance with Katie, he asks Katie out. Katie not only rejects Jamie, she makes Jamie a target of mockery/bullying, which diverts mockery/bullying from Katie. (which is the actual RP knowledge by the way supported by a study, when HVM rejects woman, then LVM approaches her, women tend …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:56 PM
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Leftist economic systems also didn't go all 100%, and they were only acepted in communal, monogamous societies, in which all areas of life weighted toward equality... but didn't go 100%. You want a village in which women can have kids with whoever they want, but everybody is supposed to raise kids. You end up with a village with no men... Men are living around that village, spending their energy lifting weights, ready to hop into village to deliver some sperm. By the way this is how elephants an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:30 PM
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Not only that but people raising moral panic over fictional show, even got the fictional show completly wrong. Seems like nobody noticed small guy (Jamie) which did the stabing was bullied by this toxic culture, and primary bully was Katie, girl which got stabed, she was the one bullying Jamie online by calling him a inc3l and red piller. While she herself was bullied by a guy to which she sent her nude. The only reason for moral panic I am seeing is fucked up society not seeing how angry guys g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:18 PM
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But women were bullying this boy over social media, they were calling him a red piller, inc3l... How come so many of you missed this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:07 PM
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Why accept quality/equity if it doesn't apply to all areas of life? If you have a poor short guy and a rich tall guy, then in the name of equality you take money from short guy and give it to rich guy... you achieved economic equality, but increased overall inequality. We never had a liberal-left country because majority refuses such one sided social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:59 PM
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B - But only because A already had his fun and burned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:24 PM
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When I do meet single mom, I do think "wait, why did her first marriage went to shit"? Now if woman does have a nice collection of tattoo's I do have a pretty good idea on what the cause was. But if woman says "Oh my ex was a huge asshole". If she has a shitty personality, then she will blame everything on her ex. If she was OK but her ex was a huge asshole, then I do feel resentment. Because she did chose a huge asshole, gave him her best years, gave him children, and I'm supposed to raise assh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:24 PM
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It's not universal truth but. When people get married first time they have about 40% chance to divorce. People which were divorced once have 60% chance for their next marriage to end in divorce. People which divorced two times have about 70% for their third marriage to end in divorce... So previous divorce is a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:13 PM
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You sound like a troll 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:50 PM
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Masculinity has nothing to do with morals. But masculinity does have to do with virtue. And different societies/cultures/communities do have different virtues. Virtue doesn't have to be moral, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:18 AM
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Just so happens that I was fat for a couple of years and had no care in the world... why would I? When I was fit and hat a hot chick... then there were things to worry about. If you can't understand this, then instead of telling people to get therapy, you should go fuck yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:10 AM
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Liberal club going bi men do not have this problem. Yes they do. Conservative bi men without a extensive social circle definitely do, because their pond is conservative women. Conservative bi men have a bigger problem. We have a gay friendly but not exclusively club in my town, it's been around for 20+ years. There are more women there then men, the guys are the ones with options. I'm in the northern Midwest. Women go to gay bars specifically not to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:05 AM
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No you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:03 AM
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That's just what the Nazi said too!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:00 AM
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If I had a $1 for every post wall woman which asked me why I'm not getting married. Then tried to convince me I should get married. I would... order a pizza, 4 cheese tuna, and would have enough for a beer too. It's only a fantasy if man is fat and on a spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:00 PM
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The last time I checked young boys in US, EU are more right, more authoritarian then young boys of previous generations. It's almost like society is correcting itself for all the progress or damage that has been done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:54 PM
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I HAVE climbed the social ladder multiple times in my life. Can you prove this? Because I'm under the impression you are living in your parents basement and have no status at all. Your whole post is essentially humblebrag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:51 PM
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Women don't care about it so much they made a whole no slutshaming movement to show how little they care? You know how much women I saw on this sub being butthurt because men were saying certain actions made them less valuable, less desireable? Everything is pointing out that women care even more about their status then men do. But you say women don't care, so obviously I will trust you because women are never full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:48 PM
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Oh I'm going to believe you then. Just kidding, like shit I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:40 PM
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Better comparison would be Slut-Madonna. It's easier for woman to be a Madonna because, it' more about things she doesn't do. Men have to work for that masculinity. But when men do damage their masculinity, they can still work to repair it. Woman can't. She has to change social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:39 PM
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What evidence do you have that your husband is a decidedly non-fragile and does not worry about whether someone perceives him as masculine, because he thinks less of the people who judge that kind of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:30 PM
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Real masculinity is behaving like I want you to behave. No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:29 PM
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Yep. Most people aren't even conciously aware of all the damage which accumulated and how said damage affects our thinking. If we were, we wouldn't pay therapists to figure that shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:24 PM
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I do acknowledge that. But how do you know a guy spewing shit about fragile masculinity on the internet is a free spirited guy who doesn't give a fuck. And not a neckbeard living in basement which doesn't have a social status, social circle... doesn't have anything to feel insecure about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:11 PM
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But can we, and should we? I mean, society will discriminate non-masculine men, so if we teach boys to drop masculinity we are setting them up for a world of hurt. If you had a son, would you throw him under the bus to potentially make world a better place. Can you get all other parents to do the same? Can you get girls to not have a preference for masculine men to? Finally, even if a world with masculinity and femininity seems shitty to you. Are you sure world without them would actually be a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:09 PM
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Cultural difference, for me masculine man has to be a virtuous one. Femine woman has to be virtuous one. This is not a case in every culture. Perhaps a Madonna–whore would make for a better representation of the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:06 PM
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True and I would also say... since masculinity is more based on actions we men have a harder time gaining it. But since we gain it by action we also have greater ability to repair it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:01 PM
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Chat GPT was trained using stuff from internet, therby all of it's social definitions are trash. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:51 PM
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It's identity-based manipulation, conditional validation, emotional blackmail. To give an example... "Man which refuses to marry high-N women is insecure and fragile, he is not a real masculine man." Translation - If you don't want to marry women like me, you do not conform to idea of masculinity I made up to manipulate you into marrying me. But I sure as fuck do prefer men which are actually masculine. This is why we are having a masculinity crisis. So many manipulators are using it to shape me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:46 PM
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It's identity-based manipulation, conditional validation, emotional blackmail. To give an example... "Man which refuses to marry high-N women is insecure and fragile, he is not a real masculine man." Translation - If you don't want to marry women like me, you do not conform to idea of masculinity I made up to manipulate you into marrying me. But I sure as fuck do prefer men which are actually masculine. This is why we are having a masculinity crisis. So many manipulators are using it to shape me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:46 PM
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It's identity-based manipulation, conditional validation, emotional blackmail. To give an example... "Man which refuses to marry high-N women is insecure and fragile, he is not a real masculine man." Translation - If you don't want to marry women like me, you do not conform to idea of masculinity I made up to manipulate you into marrying me. But I sure as fuck do prefer men which are actually masculine. This is why we are having a masculinity crisis. So many manipulators are using it to shape me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:45 PM
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It's identity-based manipulation, conditional validation, emotional blackmail. To give an example... "Man which refuses to marry high-N women is insecure and fragile, he is not a real masculine man." Translation - If you don't want to marry women like me, you do not conform to idea of masculinity I made up to manipulate you into marrying me. But I sure as fuck do prefer men which are actually masculine. This is why we are having a masculinity crisis. So many manipulators are using it to shape me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:45 PM
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It's identity-based manipulation, conditional validation, emotional blackmail. To give an example... "Man which refuses to marry high-N women is insecure and fragile, he is not a real masculine man." Translation - If you don't want to marry women like me, you do not conform to idea of masculinity I made up to manipulate you into marrying me. But I sure as fuck do prefer men which are actually masculine. This is why we are having a masculinity crisis. So many manipulators are using it to shape me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:45 PM
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It's identity-based manipulation, conditional validation, emotional blackmail. To give an example... "Man which refuses to marry high-N women is insecure and fragile, he is not a real masculine man." Translation - If you don't want to marry women like me, you do not conform to idea of masculinity I made up to manipulate you into marrying me. But I sure as fuck do prefer men which are actually masculine. This is why we are having a masculinity crisis. So many manipulators are using it to shape me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:45 PM
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It's identity-based manipulation, conditional validation, emotional blackmail. To give an example... "Man which refuses to marry high-N women is insecure and fragile, he is not a real masculine man." Translation - If you don't want to marry women like me, you do not conform to idea of masculinity I made up to manipulate you into marrying me. But I sure as fuck do prefer men which are actually masculine. This is why we are having a masculinity crisis. So many manipulators are using it to shape me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:45 PM
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Why do most women hide the fact they were raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:24 PM
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I'd say the idea of what masculinity is varies from region to region, which is why it is so hard to explain it in simple terms. Also I'm going to say that some regions do have very harmful ideas of masculinity. Some have very positive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:23 PM
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I'd say you didn't understand the series. Her femininity was at risk. I'd also say my "definitions" are just fine. I'm also going to add that you are wrong. Good luck debating this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:18 PM
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This example is somewhat intriguing to me. I see what you're saying. I grew up in what would be a small town to most people. But if someone had started a rumor about me like that, no one would have believed it. (someone did actually start a similarly damaging rumor about me, but it was a different subject). And had I been in a large city, the traction of said rumor would have been low. Well my piece of trash step-brother was dealing drugs which placed my own status into vurnerable position, in-f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:01 PM
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Or I just... stay in the closet and have a much larger pool of women which can pick me?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:40 PM
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"Heterosexual and gay/lesbian people were less willing to date bisexual people than bisexual people were to date them, consistent with anti-bisexual bias rather than mere in-group preference. Preferences against dating bisexual men appeared particularly strong, even among bisexual women." "Results indicated that heterosexual women rated bisexual men as less sexually and romantically attractive, less desirable to date and have sex with, and less masculine compared to straight men. No such differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:40 PM
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So the British series Adolescence, great example because it's a fictional show so I don't have to drag real names into debate. Girl sends a nude to one guy, he shares her nude all over the school. What happens with girls status? What are effects on her life? How does that make her feel? Would anyone sane say to that girl "You are just being fragile, pull your bootstraps and act like a man". If it wasn't a picture but JUST a rumor about that girl having XXX with multiple men, effect would be the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:31 PM
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I'm bisexual and in closet, because masculinity and heterosexuality are synonymous. Go to the LGBT forums, ask bisexual guys just how discriminative women are against bisexual men...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:24 PM
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I'm bisexual and in closet, because masculinity and heterosexuality are synonymous. Go to the LGBT forums, ask bisexual guys just how discriminative women are against bisexual men...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:23 PM
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People which have inflated masculinity, status, they feel insecure all the time. Because it's a balloon, an illusion which can easily go to shit. People which do have stable foundation for their masculinity/femininity/status. They can still experience events which can damage that. To make an example, in my hometown somebody started a rumor that I am selling drugs. I was living a very honest life, I certainly wasn't selling drugs. Status I had was fragile, it could be destroyed by a stupid rumor,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:22 PM
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Ever heard of teenage rebelion stage which starts around the age of 13, when teenagers... well rebel, against their parents, norms, system and become insuferable edgelords? They just turn into different kind of edgelords. Back when I was young we had punkers, rockers... normal folks. Then we had skinheads, goths' emo's... crazy folks. Worst case, girls were reading We Children from Zoo Station, emulating it's main character, a teenage drug abusing prostitute. Because that was edgy and cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:55 PM
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Not for physical attractiveness, but for... let's say "quality" of partner, I do get the "She could do so much better." feeling. I know a small bunch of women, which were very attractive, they had options, they end up with a guys which are bad news. So it's not just that she went below her league, but I can immediately tell that relationship will end up bad for her. Always, no exception, relationship ends up bad for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:29 PM
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Does this mean that fathers are disappearing off the planet? Are they incapable of staying involved with a child they have without female intervention? It means traditional men are disappearing off the planet. A) Traditional family roles only ever worked for fathers, and in case you hadn't noticed there's more people in a family than just him. You are absolutely correct! Modern woman is far better off being a modern single mom, then being opressed with traditional husband. B) does this mean that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:26 AM
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Media has a part in driving engagement, it's kind of like Streisand effect. Except in Streisand effect attempts at censorship end up attracting more attention to something that originally was. But when media constatly tries to shame edgelords like Tate, edgelords which will never stop due to eing shamed... it just ends up drawing more attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:11 AM
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Youtube video by Veritasium Is sucess luck or hard work. But I also do remember more modern studies on the subjects, involving other professions, and which child one is in family too (younger, middle, older). Good luck finding links for those though. Galton–Watson process for surname extinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:25 AM
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In my experience women in relationships do this more than anyone. Ones which can't date a guy they like, because they are already in a relationship. I noticed this. There was def a chemistry going on, some of them were setting up to "monkey branch", two of them did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:23 AM
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I can't remember the exact specific of these studies, but oldest kids in the group end up getting advantaged. World is full of these hiden advantages/disadvantages which don't really have anything to do with how good our genes are, how smart/healthy we are... we just end up with or without them due to blind luck. As our date of birth. As an example, surnames are going extinct. Apparently having a "bad" surname provides such a disadvantage that over generations your entire line ends up extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:19 AM
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HVW will expect a HVM to treat her as HVW. HVM can treat LVW as LVW. HVM which has lots of $$$ can pay $ LVW or $$$ HVW to treat him as a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:02 AM
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We need alternatives that are not problematic--more left aligned spaces and content to counter the ring wing dominance of these male spaces. But you would have to get left to see boys/men are more then just a disposeable tool to be shaped into an ally. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:48 AM
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Im around men who’ve created and work on orgs for young boys and men. Why isn't media pushing this forward instead of this Tate guy and whatever the fuck women with experience in raising packs of cats want men to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:38 AM
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Why aren't men providing the guidance boys and men need? Because traditional family in which fathers do provide guidance for their sons has been to a large degree destroyed? This is purely what feminism has been saying for decades. Same feminism which wants to destroy traditional family roles, and is celebrating single motherhood? Yay 1/4 of all childen are being raised by single mothers! Why aren't men providing guidance for boys? Why are boys listening to this Tate guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:36 AM
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But I was raised by a single mom, so I was raised in Matriarchy. And my Matriarch sure as fuck did shame sexuality, even weaponized it by slut shaming other women to elevate herself above them... even though later on we found out her history... let's say it really wasn't as chaste as she presented it. So to me it seems feminists keep hijacking the cause to put women into position of power. If we vote Republican women into power, that will fix everything right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:23 AM
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Feminism is a female interest group, period. That's why I see it as being so shitty... Just like you see male interest groups as shitty groups. The way I see it, men should become selfish, should join male interest groups, because apparently almost destroying society is the only way for society to pull it's head out of it's ass and rebuild itself into something that actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:54 AM
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Feminism had every sense at it's begining, because women were 2nd class citizens. Modern feminism became illogical, because currently we have assimetry. Feminism is super analitic about any disadvantage women have, and any advantage men have, while not only ignoring but censoring every advantage women have and any disadvantage men have. Feminism also directs all "equality" efforts in their favour. As such modern feminism is not about equality... it's just an interest group.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:55 PM
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It's kinda like the relative age effect, men born in January are most likely to become athletes, CEO's, jocks, leaders, fuckboys. Is this because of horoscope? Nope, it's because they are the oldest, biggest most mature in the class, and this difference compounds itself through life. You might end up a loser simply due to being born in december. Also the luck factor... if luck makes up for just 5% of sucess, we run the world simulation again, entirelly different people end up becoming richest an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:29 PM
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In my experience when woman does "help you" date their friend, they are actually interested in you. So when woman tries to hook you up with her fat friend... decline in most polite way possible. Often times I had those same women try to date me a month or two later. Which would explain retroactively jealousy. Maybe she was testing you, maybe she realized her own feelings too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:20 PM
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In my experience when woman does "help you" date their friend, they are actually interested in you. So when woman tries to hook you up with her fat friend... decline in most polite way possible. Chances are, a month later she will try to date you herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:18 PM
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This. When I moved to new city where I had zero social connections, I made friends with a woman, then her friends, then their friends. My new social circle was basically a tree, branching out from that first friend, and I had romantic/sexual relationship with women in that tree. Which is why I find those red pillers which find women they can't fuck to be hilariously wrong. Selfish to the core and too dumb to think one step ahead... Not having a social life which involves women is the greatest co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:15 PM
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Then that isn't a friend. A friend is someone who wouldn't do this. Have a standard, plus, Exactly, I do agree. And I do want to exit such relationship. When other side is trying to emotionally guilt trip into staying in such relationship... who is being the manipulative one? if you're that into someone who you haven't even kissed or been intimate with, that says a lot about you, Yes I can fall in love with someone before sticking my dick into them or even kissing them. All my legit relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:10 PM
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Women want to have orbiters, and some women do covert manipulate to get them. All they do is within plausible deniability. So what happens when friendzoned guy realizes situation and wants to get out? Covert manipulator goes on a damage control spree, feigns innocence, claims victimhood, paints guy as manipulator. I had a woman tried to pull this shit on me, and just as she cooked up her smear campaign, I simply released our chat history, and there was a "oh shit, what a bitch" moment in entire …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:48 PM
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I sure as hell did met men which just so happen to become best "friends" with the most attractive woman around, they simped for her, then booohoo cried because she put them into friendzone... while in reality they placed themselves into it. I sure as hell did met women which lead on men into the friendzone, because guess what, women can be cruel bitches. Just like I met men which lead on women into situationships. And... when people are legit friends, one of them can fall in love because duh. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:48 PM
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The men who complain about a woman’s sexual past are the same ones who have no past of their own and struggle to get a woman to have any interest in them at all. It’s very sad. Sounds like you are just trying to shame men which don't want comited relationships with women that have rich sexual past. In reality, lowest value men are the ones willing to have a comited relationship with such women, because they have no pride to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:38 PM
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You are just saying people want healthy relationships. And yeah, most of them do. True, and part of healthy relationship is to feel special to your partner. Women are not denied this need to feel special. Men to a large degree are. We are expected to be romantic, to make our partner feel special... that's fine. But when us men express desire to be special, we are lead to believe there is something wrong with us. Source: my lifetime experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:27 AM
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Never heard anybody describing a stay in home mom as a leech. Never heard a man working traditionally masculine work being described as a leech either... heard so many times them being described as less valuable. So not just that these workers are not being respected, they are being anti-respected. Like I remember during the COVID how all these essential workers were being praised. Doctors, nurses, retail workers. I don't remember anybody noticing there are people working to keep their lights on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:40 PM
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What Elon Musk is doing is super-progressive, he abandoned the traditional roles. Traditional marriage, traditional roles of husband and parent. And is instead making contracts with egg donors, surogat mothers, IVF clinics giving sperm and $$$ to have them make and raise his male kids, while female fetuses probably get aborted. Now progressives feel disgusted by him, because... it's only cool when man doesn't pay for it? And Elon was adored by the left, had to spend hundreds of millions to suck …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:55 AM
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Strenght - So many problems can be solved if you are strong. During my life I had a bunch of problems I could solve on my own due to being strong as a mule. Confrontations in which I don't have to back down due to other side being agressive, if I am right and other side refuses to back down then I will intimidate them. Much easier to lose weight besacuse muscles burn fat. Being a guy and having guy friends. Being a part of the monke tribe is awesome. Us apes "hunt" together, share spoils, help e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:29 AM
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I fully agree. There are simply too many selfish women, so most men get to pick between getting a run down nagging wife in their 30's and... embracing the decline. Getting married with a naggin wife and raising some shitty kids doesn't save civilization. It just prolongs the decline... you get eat shit and have shit too while woman gets to eat cake and have it too and only end up prolonging the period when just that is happening. Best way to save civilization is to become selfish, embrace the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:44 PM
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Which is why I said "people should be careful about assuming what actual consequences are" I think there are consequences, but they are not as clear cut as people tend to assume. If you are older you remember all those very outspoken people wanting to ban violent games because they would turn all of us into mass killers? 2024, Violent Video Games Don't Increase Aggression And Might Actually Be Beneficial | IFLScience
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:12 PM
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And I know for certain that when Carmageddon came out in 1997, there was no increase in road deaths. Because Carmageddon taught us that driving irresponsibly destroys out car. Cars are expensive so are car repairs. Carmageddon taught us to drive cautiously and respect rules on the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:42 PM
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I believe media does lead to real world consequences, but people should be careful about assuming what actual consequences are. As an example I believe violent games actually serve as a "vent" for people, therby decreasing agression/violence in real life. As for a rape game, I'm going to be honest and say... I have no idea on the real life consequences, and as such I wouldn't support either side. I wish more people had this approach too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:40 PM
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The thing I am seeing... a lot of red and blue pilled people can only see things in black and white. Man can only be this cruel warmachine which would NEVER EVER comit any act which isn't selfish as fuck, or man is this simp which will treat woman like a slave and drive her to her lover to get fucked. Nothing in between is possible. Which is probably the core reason on why they are being so unsucesful, not being able to see nuisances => lack of social skills because duh. But hey, nobody wants to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:49 PM
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So we become attractive, patriarchal men. And if we cannot become Alphas, because can't find a tribe of men looking for a leader on Craiglist. Well don't be anyone's beta either, amerite?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:41 PM
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Buuuuut... the winning strategy in prisoner dilema is not to be always nice, or to always be selfish. It's to start nice, do revenge by playing tic-for-tac, forget after taking revenge... the selfish thing to do is to start nice and cooperate but punish any attempt of other side not playing nice. This is why so many species develop brain large enough to play the game, then develop cooperative behaviour in herds, packs. People which are being selfish-selfish are more likely to become billionaires…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:38 PM
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I wouldn't say when men show kindness to women, but when other men are being actual simps. Because when man is simping it does make life harder for other men. But women are doing the same thing because when woman is sleeping around with a bunch of guys... she is simping for guys, making life harder for other women. Then in real life other women sure as hell do police her, slut shame her. Please do tell me this is not the case, so I can tell you to get off the internet and touch some grass 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:21 PM
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You can't change what someone else deems attractive. Actually you can... to a degree. - By pressuring modeling industry to stop showing anorexic and photoshoped models we did roll back some of the unrealistic beauty expectations. - By being rejected/accepted our brains do figure out where our "place" is, and we find people in our league more attractive. However while society did put a pressure on lowering female beauty expectations, no effort was made to lower male beauty expectations. Apps like…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:16 PM
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True but I will say women do not pick their partners on looks alone, because. In a study which used speed dating setup women were exposed to more then just looks and they were picking different partners. Where women do show 80/20 preference in practice is Tinder, which shows pictures of men, and a short bit of text. And when you put a bunch of people in lets say a classroom, due to preselection women pick what other women pick. So where 80% of modern men are hitting a wall... during our educatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:07 PM
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It's a multifaceted reason. Yup, culture changed from family oriented one to one cherishing individualism, independence. But also today it is far easier to be independent. We can "cook" a meal by throwing something into microwave. We have all these appliances for housework. We have TV, internet, games for fun, we have porn on internet for free, OF girls show their buttholes for $2.99, women can find themselves hookup on Tinder... all of which are cheap. We have a social circle of friends to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:38 PM
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The Red Pill was never really that radical, it's always been Stoicism/Gnosticism, which is ancient as fuck, carried in a modern language with modern symbolism. Something being ancient doesn't mean it's not going to become radical in the future. As I said I consider Red Pill was radical +10 years ago. I would argue that it resulted in men ditching a system (Escaping the Plantation) that is rigged against them, that exploits our labor and our human affection for the explicit and exclusive benefit …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:36 PM
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You equating your family issues to rape is genuinely so out of touch with reality. Oh actually I'm not. My family issues were 10x worse ten being gang raped by 10 guys 10 times. And I do know a woman which was raped, didn't really experience trauma, is leading a perfectly happy life. So for a change I'm going to be the selfish one and take just my emotions into consideration. Because fuck everyone else. Being raised by a single parent is 1000 times worse then being raped. Feels out of touch? Goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:36 AM
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I’m not saying the child WILL have an optimal life, but neither do kids who lose their parents later in life, children who grow up in extreme poverty, children who have abusive parents, etc etc. Absolutely true but parents are also supposed to try their best to, not bring children into extreme poverty, not die, not abuse their children. Just so happens that abusive assholes don't really give a fuck about children's wellbeing. No one is dealt a perfect hand in life. That isn’t to minimize the suf…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:23 AM
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Just because you are miserable and sad does not mean that every person in your case would feel the same way Not all women feel miserable after being raped either, so we could save some money on prevention. If you feel outraged, I just did the same thing you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:58 AM
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But I presented it as a question, to be more clear... if you know child will end up being raised by a single parent, is it morally right to bring them on this world? I don’t think it’s morally right to pressure women into how they control their body because the man isn’t interested in being a grown up and facing the consequences of his actions. But with the exception of rape it does take two to make a kid. I think suffering this child is likely to endure justifies pressure being placed on men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:37 AM
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Actually unaliving yourself by jumping into vat of acid is the only guaranteed way they can ensure they won't procreate, But our entire civiization is not built upon 100% guarantee, but by doing economy, finding a spot which is good enough. So are you statistically, mathematically, real life illiterate. Or you are intentionally pushing for men to get sterilized because some kind of hate, revenge? Maybe even a sexual fantasy? By the way if Anthony Edward was using condoms, chance to get three wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:22 AM
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I’ve met plenty of people with absent fathers who grow up just fine. Sorry but this here is a horrible argument. Yes some kids do grow up fine with just one parent, but most don't. And parents are supposed to stack up those chances so their kids don't end up suffering. I grew up with just one parent, and so many people were saying what a wonderful kid I was... But I wish I wasn't born. A wish which has been folowing me for around 30 years. It takes two to make a kid, so how about we teach/influe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:16 AM
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Is it a morally right thing to do though? I think this is a problem with our society. Even suggesting a morally right thing can be seen as extreme. How the hell do we push society forward if we can't even suggest such things?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:03 AM
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Not OP and I will try to word this correctly. I think it is amoral to make children when conciously knowing these children will end up being raised by a single parent. So men and women do have a moral obligation to not make kids unless they are sure kid will have two parents. Since men do not have ability to abort pregnancy, if they do not intend to raise a kid, they should ensure contraception is being used. But sterilization is not the only safe form of contraception. Condoms work too. Man whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:59 PM
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You seem to generalizing a lot. No shit Sherlock? Did you think that whenever I say "men" I was trying to say that absolutely every man on the surface of our globe, at every time in history is like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:46 PM
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This totally fits my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:54 PM
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Weird as fuck because on the internet, in the media, women stick together and shit all over men. In real life women have this pecking behaviour in which they can mercilessly bully their "sisters"... then bullied women will join groups of men for safety. I remember this happening over and over in my life, but greatest example when company I worked in was suddenly left with around +25 women and just two of us guys. Before that afternoon and nightshifts were least popular ones (shitty schedule, way…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:42 PM
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Weird thing is that... women do have stronger bias for other women, this is a fact. But from experience small group of men = strong bonds, teamwork. Small group of women = lots of backstabbing Women have better opinions of women, untill they have to actually work with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:33 PM
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I'd call it rooting for the underdog. This "progressive" media machine is huge, strong, and fucking evil. Seeing somebody tank it, even a small turd like Elon... feels nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:08 PM
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You're not traumatised though. You're just whiney. If you decided so based on redditor's gender and color of skin. I am openly accusing you of racism and sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:33 PM
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This is a trap into which both sides fall into. And once again each side can recognize this problem in opposite group, but not in their own group. This problem is called victimhood mentality. Person has negative experience, trauma, which makes them afraid to expose themselves again. This part is perfectly normal, that's just our brain not wanting to experience same thing again. Correct thing to do would be to figure out why exactly did you fail, make some changes, try again. But if you fall into…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:29 PM
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Oh! What an excellent chance for discu Well I watched it and it's a damn good show. But it is a fictional show... and people are behaving like it's a documentary. You know I also watched this movie called Mars Attacks! so why aren't we having a panic about these Martians killing people while goverment doesn't do anything about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:03 PM
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Radicalization is just adoption of radical views in opposition to a political, social, or religious status quo. It doesn't mean that radical view is wrong as an example... Established view was that Sun is revolving around the Earth, then Galileo Galilei took out his telescope, did some math and he was radicalized by the idea that Earth is revolving around Sun. Idea which was radical but correct one. If society holds a narrative that women are angels, then young man has some interactions with wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:55 PM
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Repressive tolerance only works as a tactic against the opposition when the opposition wants to uphold good PR and play nicely with you. It does not work if the opposition is openly hostile. Which ironically leads to left feeding growth of far-right. Left sucesfully censors moderate opinions, purple pills, because moderates want to play nice. And left sucesfully employs shaming/canceling to shut down moderate opinions/ideas. But people on the right, most radical red pillers, they don't give a fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:40 PM
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Red Pill was a radicalization maybe +10 years ago because it's views were radically different from established ones. Just like Galileo Galilei was radical when he said Earth is revolving around the Sun, not the other way around. That narrative was radical, but true. This radical movement didn't result in groups of men commited to doing violent crimes. It resulted in men becoming more selfish. Which is where media shows it's hypocrisy once again, because media cherries selfish women. But selfish …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:04 PM
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Where did I state that? Work on literacy: "Sorry but IF you need a one way relationship to feel bond, problem is you." Isn't this what I said? You said there are no bonds, I say bonds are created through these transactions. You'll be surprised at the power of arseholes Never met a sucessful asshole which didn't start relationships by being "nice" (positive interaction). It's just that... lot of broken women in the west right? One could even say previous generations did a very shitty job raising …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:31 AM
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Can I agree on this one? Because I do agree on this one. We are living in a society where paid goverment services are taking care of general safety. Also women can hire men to do all sorts of stuff that women cannot (or won't) do. Now if somebody is being a helpful motherfucker, and feels like their efforts are not being returned... yup, stop being a sucker. This goes for both genders, everybody really. But bitter people trying to blackmail other gender over the internet... I guess it makes a ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:28 PM
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Sorry but if you need a one way relationship to feel bond, problem is you. Best relationships are actually transactional but... costs and gains are essentially emotional. It's not a zero sum game because... both of us can gain more then we invested. Which makes entire thing messy, fuzzy, so you can't write a simple guide on it. It's like you and me are sitting on the table, I give you a compliment, which costs me very little, but can mean a lot to you. You buy me a cup of coffee, which doesn't m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:25 PM
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Noncommittal men has always been a thing. But looking at baby boomers, noncommittal men still ended up marrying, just at a later date. Men which didn't get married they couldn't find anybody who wanted them. Now I'm seeing men being unwanted in their 20's. Turning into wanted but noncommittal men in their 30's. I can see this happening in great numbers. And it's not due to MGTOW, Red Pill, Andrew Tate radicalization. And they were never valuable to women. Because women need selfless, generous me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:24 AM
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anti-feminists can care about traditions Believe it or not universe doesn't revolve around vagina. Selfish man is pro himself, not anti-feminism. Selfish man doesn't care about traditions. They normally dont We normally do. Hooking for casual sex, fuck buddies, situationships, heck even being a lover... all are still on the table. We just don't commit ourselves to anyone. Women liberated themselves from social expectations, guys are doing it too. Even guys which are just gaming and masturbating,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:41 PM
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Bad take because there are so many articles about men checking out. Except they never directly write about men checking out, they always write about consequences of men checking out. In essence men became selfish, just like women are, men are refusing to perform their traditional roles. As an example we get articles from all over the western world about men not joining the military. As for checking out of relationships, women will never admit to not being wanted due to their pride. So we will al…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:04 AM
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If grandfathers were opressing grandmothers, well all of us have grandfathers and grandmothers. So why would men which did had opressed grandmothers pay reparations to women which had opressive grandfathers... doesn't make sense. Feminists are an interest group. They do not seek equality, they always seek special rights and privleges for their in-group. And will keep coming up with justifications on why they deserve better treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 02:44 AM
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they are just not interested in them But those incels have to be demonized to justify using them as a punching bag without being labeled as a bully. So let's just say they do want single moms to be unalived, abused, and/or SA’d and call it a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:38 PM
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As fucking always, the truth is complex. There absolutely are abusers which start of as charming love bombing guys, then manipulate their ways into codependent relationship. But if you never saw women lining up to jump on obviously dangerous, abusive men then I fucking envy you on the Smalwille bubble you are living in. Wanna change places?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:32 PM
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We have members of both gender do it. They chose sexy ignoring red flags. For them chose better means chose more sexy... their ass ends up getting burned over and over again. Then instead of reflecting and saying "I was such a dumbass chasing after the horny, I have to start filtering out the red flags". They come to the internet to shit all over the opposite gender. "I'm not a dumbass, entire opposite gender is jerks. Gibe empathy." Then they get horny and do it all over again. It's just that, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:25 PM
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