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Arent you making an assumption that the men struggling with dating are going after women out of their leagues? How do you define a (dating) "league" anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:09 PM
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So if there are too many unknowns to give an answer, then why do women give an answer of "be nicer" instead of "I don't know" or whatever you just wrote above?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:04 PM
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Women confound guys when guys ask "how can I get into a relationship?" and the answer is actually "work on your physical attraction" but women answer with some variation of "be nicer".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:50 PM
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the person who does nothing to better themselves So quick to judge when you've never even met the person. People can better themselves without needing to gain wealth or status. It doesn't even need to have externally or extrinsically observable effects.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:01 PM
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All these people so quick to judge someone a "loser" even though they've never met the person. Makes you wonder who the real losers are. Your friend simply doesn't value money or drive or any of that other shit women typically want. Maybe his value system for romance involves ensuring he's not being used, rather than making himself eligible by conforming to women's "standards".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:20 PM
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You can view someone as an “average Jane” objectively, while still loving them because they are your partner tho… Don't women refuse to enter into a relationship or leave all the time because they think the men love to have a relationship more than they actually love her as a person? "I love you but I'm not in love with you" What changes about the logic when you reverse the gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:50 PM
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The problem with this analogy is that it also doesn't prove or disprove that the parents don't love only the exceptional son. Even if it were the former it doesn't negate the feeling of unworthiness the "average" son will feel if he objectively observes his "gifted" brother given preferential treatments by his parents. Not to mention this analogy also falls apart because if we try to extend the metaphor into the aspect of "former partners" that the underlying situation has. This analogy has spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:37 PM
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This is not textbook manipulation. Point out where in the textbook that saying "no" is manipulation. No one in this thread claims it is mistreatment, it is simply not the treatment they will accept. You are trying to manipulate this into nebulous concept related to rape so you can gaslight men into thinking "no" is not an acceptable answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:59 PM
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What fucking consent? From Merriam Webster: to give assent or approval Nobody gave any assent or approval here as is their right. Unlike the one he is arguing which is grounded in manipulating people into rape. Where's the manipulation or rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:41 PM
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You don't get to decide what treatment is "worse" for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:32 PM
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But that is not what people here are arguing over. They are crying that she said no. Just like you and the other people arguing with your position are crying that he said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:29 PM
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Yes it is common sense that it doesn't matter why someone doesn't want to do something. They said no thats the answer. That is it the topic is off the table. So it is common sense that those particular men doesn't want to be in a relationship with someone who don't think it should matter. They said no that is the answer. The topic is off the table. What's the matter here? Topic is off the table yet you keep talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:11 PM
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Who made you the arbiter of what is common sense? Common sense is anyone who will do things someone else wants but won't for you doesn't value you as much. If someone doesn't want to do something they shouldn't need to unless there is a damn good reason for it. Good thing those particular men doesn't want to be in a relationship with said women who think it shouldn't matter don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:50 PM
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The fact that they have done x, y or z in the past shouldn't matter. Who made you the arbiter of what matters to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:28 PM
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Absolutely could be the reason, but not often explained in that way, nor is it wrong to walk away because you have standards that you be treated in the same manner as previous partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:38 AM
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... Guys standards for looks are higher for relationships compared to one night stands ... This hasn't been the experience for me. I dare say most men do not have the option of one night stands...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:50 PM
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> so detached from reality that they can suspend their disbelief and forget that they’re talking to a robot. So you mean most guys who have never experienced genuine desire or affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:53 PM
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If you think Anglospherian females are obsessed with money, wait till you meet Chinese women...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:55 PM
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Pure projection, this is what most women do. Most men do not have a higher looks threshold for relationship than for sex. If a woman has good enough looks for sex, she has good enough looks for a relationship. It's the personalities and values that stop a woman from attaining a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:13 AM
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You should learn to read. His argument is mid-30s and you counter argument with someone who just hit 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:45 PM
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from their mid-30s. a 30 y/o woman can have perfect healthy babies You are not talking about the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:16 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergolic_propellant No spark needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:27 PM
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This is not empathy. Empathy is an understanding, not feeling their feelings. It was already pointed to you that you had the definitions reversed and like most women you just double down on your delusion instead of referencing an objective source like a man would do. Like literally the dictionary says the opposite of you: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy while sympathy is a feeling of sincere concern for someone who is experiencing something difficult or painful, empathy involv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:55 AM
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I guess it's degrading to say ... The often unsaid part: I only find you attractive bc you can provide for me but chad got it for free but I couldn’t land him so you are my third choice be happy about it. Most of my male friends who are physically unattractive has experienced being cheated on, dumped for another prospect (aka Chad 2.0 came along), or divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:08 PM
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You can go ahead and martyr yourself first. I lost faith a while ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:55 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if I'm just slowly committing suicide through neglect of everything through apathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:35 AM
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So probably a better proxy is the most attractive people you can regularly get for relationships. That's what people mean when they say "An 8 will have sex with you, but only a 6 will commit to you".... The 8s and 6s are the ones that are the most attractive people you can regularly get for sex/relationships, not the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 03:33 PM
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Only the Surgeon General telling us that: The mortality impact of being socially disconnected is similar to that caused by smoking up to 15 cigarettes a day, and even greater than that associated with obesity and physical inactivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:03 AM
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But you've cut yourself off from any possible intimacy as well. In what way? Seems more like women decided to exclude him from intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:23 PM
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Male friendships are superficial compared to female friendships. No, male friendships are different compared to female friendships, not any more or less superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:52 AM
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Sorry, no one is owed friendship, just like no one is owed sex or relationship no matter how long they've been talking together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:29 AM
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No, it's not that we think the other person has zero other quality. It's that we only have finite amount of energy and time, and if they aren't eligible then we need to focus that time and energy elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 07:00 PM
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Non-AMP for mobile users: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64122628 Edit: Because u/AmputatorBot is banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:04 PM
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In adult relationships, you need to communicate in a healthy manner with each other Fixed that for you. IMO if you opened any communication threads with "do X, or we break up" then I'd view you as an uncommitted partner and take the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:07 PM
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There's no other strategy for asking your partner to do things to contribute to your well-being and the health of your relationship besides threatening to break up????
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:49 PM
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This is not true at all. Many people every day die of starvation and do not eat their fellow human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:44 PM
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And you essentially said that they were being lazy. Reminds me of the boomers complaining about millenials.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:30 PM
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Lol just pull yourself up by your bootstraps!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:13 PM
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I think you need to reread my grandparent. They are not proposing to punish women because they might entrap the men. They are asking what would happen if a woman entraps a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:32 PM
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Huh? I don't know what legal system you reside in but the entirety of criminal law where I live presumes that people will break the laws and lays out what those offenses are to be charged and tried as and the punishment along with those offenses. Proving those offenses (aka a trial) is what "innocent until proven guilty" is about and not about making of the laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:31 AM
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If you stick your finger on a light socket and it hurts are you going to stick your finger in a light socket again? This justification is also why some guys won't commit. Girls be batshit crazy once they have you on the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:24 PM
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Absolutely incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:37 PM
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Signs woman is not interested in you: pays for date, fucks early, drops any act, doesnt care about you enough to use any manipulations or games
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:21 PM
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The women is interested in seeing long-term but is disincentivizing all the long-term behavior by rewarding all the short-term behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 05:04 PM
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doesn’t care about their partner’s wellbeing at all, in which case why be with that person in the first place? It's almost as if no one cares about men's wellbeing beyond lip service and men are learning to take care of their own wellbeing first and using other people...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 04:44 PM
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No you are the one who is missing the point. You claim that relationships restrict men's freedom of action to pursue greatness when history has shown this not to be the case. Then you move the goalposts to argue that these aren't your idea of a modern relationship (which you haven't established that you are even talking about the same idea of a relationship that I or the OP have). Relationships are what both people make it to be, some restrict men's freedom, others set them free. There is nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 05:14 PM
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None of these being the type of married guys who shared in the household tasks, changed their babies' nappies, got up at night to put crying children back to sleep, or took them out the park on a Saturday morning. Nor did they allow their wives to take time away from their pursuits. Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:05 PM
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Many greats produced their most famous works when they were married... to name a few: Einstein published both his theories of relativity when he was married to his first wife. Pierre and Marie Curie were married when they did their groundbreaking work on radioactivity. William Shockley, the guy who invented the transistor, which underpins basically every device you have today that runs on electricity, was also married. Samuel Clemens (aka Mark Twain) was married when he produced the The Adventur…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 03:34 PM
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proportional to income makes the most sense. No, 50/50 expenses makes the most sense. I have introduced this in my long term relationships and all three bfs were on board. I recently caught up with an ex and he said he introduced it into his new relationship. I also just upped my proportion in my current relationship because I took a new higher paying job. BF may be taking a role in another company later this year with a pay increase, would recalibrate from there. We both work the same # of hour…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:46 AM
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No moved goalposts. No, you definitely moved the goalposts. Your original post says nothing about "love" or "same number of hours". A case of loving someone for who they are This is so vague as to mean almost anything. and agreeing that you should essentially have to sell the same number of hours to an employers to maintain your shared standard of living. So if person A works 0 hours (i.e. owns a succesful business), then person B pays all the bills by "hours" logic right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:39 AM
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You seem to have ignored the bolded part of my original comment that said all else being equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:23 AM
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Since you edited, I deleted my original response. You are moving the goalposts here. If the lawyer find the social worker valuable because they are such a caring person, then that's "fair" value exchange, but you made no such demonstration of value from person B in your original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:19 AM
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If person A views things like that, they probably don't respect their partner that much in the first place and it likely wont work out long term anyways they shouldnt date someone that makes less, because they look down on them, and thats not the foundation of a healthy relationship Backwards day? Person B doesn't respect that person A worked hard to get to 150k if they demand that person A pays proportional to income.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:10 AM
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well, thats not fair to the lower earning partner. your stance is that the lower earning partner's time is less valuable than yours. Life's not fair. The job market (not her stance) determines how much each person's time is worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 05:06 AM
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Person A may have worked harder or sacrificed more to earn 150k. How is it then "fair" that they should pay more? Fairness is just whatever both sides agree to accept in order to form a relationship, but person A doesn't have an incentive to form such a relationship all else being equal, so you are just formulating an opinion that doesn't take into account person A's wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:58 AM
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I dont know if it's intentional or not, but your example of clingy, the girl is putting in effort (spend time, texting, planning, prioritizing) to spend time together, whereas in the needy example you give examples of demands (begging, suspicions, telling her).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:05 PM
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I'm saying you want a reasonably hot and cool girl who will bang you over a cooler supermodel who doesn't bang anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:06 PM
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Nothing is reasonably expected until those two people make the terms and conditions clear of the relationship, whether that is sex, commitment, money, etc. Do you tip your waiter? By going to a restaurant, most people will agree that your waiter should reasonably be expected to be tipped as a social norm. You, of course, don't have to tip your waiter, but if enough people stop doing it, people are going to stop being waiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 05:04 PM
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I don't see why you are so confused. He's prioritizing sexually available over low-N count. You accept what you can get. Men's sexual strategy isn't filtering for quality. It's like being picky about what flavor of ice cream you get when you are dying of starvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:52 PM
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women can’t force men to stay in a sexless relationship with them I don't think anyone here uses entitlement in the sense of "by force" but as "reasonably expect".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:46 PM
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Why is this an "Or"? I think the same man who complains about it also nexts the women who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:53 PM
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Sex is better than no sex, but replacing enthusiastic sex with duty sex isn't what most guys want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 12:43 AM
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For women who think it ok to marry someone knowing that: marriages start out hot and heavy but don't end that way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:51 PM
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She doesn't have any conscious control over her sex drive and has no idea what it will be like in the future Which is all the more reason why you should vet for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 11:11 PM
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Because women want to virtue signal that they aren't shallow because they pick based on superficial characteristics (i.e. looks) instead of personality which they believe anyone can change (i.e. just be a nice person).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:38 PM
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I ate Macdonalds until I realized it made me feel like shit after a while. Never paid $100 for it though. Note how I said "women" and not "you". Men have observed that the vast majority of women eat McDonalds and pay a lot for it. Every man is going to refuse relationships unless he's the hottest guy the women has ever been with? That is what we are proposing, yes, to be sure you aren't being settled for. I haven't been the physically hottest woman anybody I've dated has been with. That doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:41 PM
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The problem here is that in the past women ate McDonalds like it is going out of style and paid with $100 bills and now they demand the 5 star chefs who built their restaurants over years of hard work serve them and give them equity in their restaurants and the women want to pay $5 for it. Maybe you personally never ate McDonalds, but that still doesn't change the fact that women are willing to give more to the junk fast food, so every man is going to want to be fast food (be more sexually attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:30 PM
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Huh? Red Pill isn't about wanting women back to being traditional. It's about women no longer being traditional and how to best optimize men's sexual strategy in response to that and enjoy the decline. Far as I can tell, FDS is also the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:38 AM
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Lol if one could afford it, who would pick a "decent house with good bones" over "the coolest apartment" or "stunningly beautiful, huge mansion"? This is literally sour grapes settling by labeling something unattainable as undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:37 AM
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I guess it depends if you consider covert contracts a bad thing. It is a "covert" contract for you to tip your waiter when you go out to eat. It is also a "covert" contract to return your shopping cart to the designated return spot. There will be a group of people (who are focused on individual rights) who think there is nothing wrong with you exercising your rights. And there will be a group of people who consider you to be an asshole by not conforming to social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:58 PM
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You want someone who respects you, not worships the ground you walk on. These two things are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:47 PM
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Not to mention the fact that those stories were so newsworthy because of how rare they are. And the firing parties (except maybe in education) usually face such a public backlash for doing it that soon it’ll be more shameful to fire a former OF creator than it is to be a former OF creator. Ironic you use a charge of selection-bias when all you know about the public backlash from firing OF creators is selection-biased by liberal news media.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:17 AM
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Just Google: "Mechanic OnlyFans fired" "Nurse OnlyFans fired" "Teacher OnlyFans fired" In most jobs, employers are free to fire for any or no reason at all, you bet they don't want employees that have showed their buttholes to the internet distracting all their other employees and opening them up to sexual harassment lawsuits. Those people who think you are going to hide using anonymity of the internet really need to think again. There are very clearly bots crawling OnlyFans and archiving every …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:49 AM
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The covert contract is how she gets to fool the man into thinking it is not a transaction. He gets to operate under the mental model that she loves him, but she gets to use her own mental model, which is her pussy in exchange for his resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:16 AM
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Nah that's equal. She equitably decided take on those risks by hopping onto the dick. If she doesn't feel it is equal she can decide not to hop onto that dick and find other dick that is more "equal".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 05:09 AM
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Heterosexual sex is an equal endeavour when she hops on your dick because she is sexually attracted to you. If she doesn't want to hop on your dick without exchanging something else, that's called a transaction. And most men have determined that commitment in exchange for some pussy that can be taken away at any time and also take half your shit along with it is a transaction not worth making.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:49 AM
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Lmao the entitlement here is wanting something in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:34 AM
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Asking someone out != sexing them up in hopes of a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:22 AM
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Men aren't machines that you put sex tokens into and get commitment from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:29 AM
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I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to get an actual comment with some sense. Right now the situation is that there is an artificial barrier to providing more supply (prostitution being illegal). We see in most markets that artificial restrictions on supply tend to drive prices up so if there was a "sex-work" stock (representing the average price to see a sex worker) and legalization was being announced today, I'd short the stock (bet money that it will cost less to see a sex worker).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:51 PM
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I am not your parent, but are you and I reading the same thread? No one claims that ONLY the most attractive people are desirable. Desirability is not a binary yes or no. It is a distribution. Attractive people are HIGHLY desirable (as in, most people want them). Your parent's point is that men distribution of HIGHLY desirable is wider than women's, as evidenced by all the statistics people post around here. Thus statistically speaking, women on average using looks, pick the same attractive men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 06:10 PM
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Curious coming from a user named "Hardcorelogic".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 03:20 PM
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My top 20% is completely different from another person's top 20%. No it's not "completely different". Most people have large overlaps with who they found attractive. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19469598/ Participants of both genders showed substantial consensus in judgments of whom they found attractive and unattractive, although men showed higher consensus than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 02:51 PM
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you would need numbers to show this. Exactly. You don't have numbers to show your claim. It's obvious you are just introducing strawman after strawman and you don't debate in good faith. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:37 PM
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Men are way more likely to die defending a home invasion robbery. Are we going to say that: Existing as a man is more dangerous than the "small" pregnancy that women go through too?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:24 PM
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Existing as a woman is literally more dangerous than "dangerous labor" a small number of men do. Your stats are not about existing as a women. They are about being pregnant as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:02 PM
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Nope. Literally at every age, men are far more likely to die then women. Police officers are significantly elevated over men. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241572/death-rate-by-age-and-sex-in-the-us/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 08:42 PM
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Except becoming a cop isn't a 9 month thing. You have a higher chance for dying when you become pregnant for 9 months, but before and afterwards, police officers experience significantly elevated risk of death compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 08:12 PM
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I don't think UBI will fix this problem. When you give a ton of money to the poor, the rich will just adjust their prices up to take the money from the poor. What we need is some system to ensure housing is available for living and not for investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 07:31 PM
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So we have to find a way to make it work while making women happy. This is incomplete. We need to find a way to make it work while making women AND men happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 03:25 PM
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Why the "Or..."? None of what I said is negated by having expectations made up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:02 PM
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I mean it's true. If women collectively demanded an "application fee" they would probably be less likely to be on the receiving end of some low-effort attempts to get into their pants. However the problem is that it's a big ask for men, since they too must protect themselves from getting used by women who are just looking for free meals. As a matter of strategy, I never pay for her half: If she doesn't understand that I have a strategy to filter out gold-diggers, then she doesn't understand a la…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 04:51 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:41 AM
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Uhh no, when did women give a shit about men's problems? So why should men give a shit about women's problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 02:30 AM
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Lmao collateral? So if the man doesn't get sex, you'll return the collateral right? This isn't a collateral, it's an application fee.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:15 AM
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You are arrogant and presumptuous to assume that she wasn't thinking of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 04:27 PM
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One guy can inseminate hundreds of women. But also there's no evidence that all of this was raping the natives and killing the civilians on a widespread scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 03:08 PM
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I'm not Gimpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:42 PM
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So are you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:38 PM
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low key visit to an art museum with a couple of glasses of wine. offered to get another drink with me at a bar 5 blocks away. The woman in this OP definitely was thinking of him recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:19 PM
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IMO this is backwards. Women making themselves financially secure have to accept that they will become unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:18 PM
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There's always been a system that women will only date you if you have status but status has become a much longer process to achieve. Don't forget that women competing with men in the workplace is a factor in how long it takes to achieve that kind of status too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:39 AM
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Lmfao ok, being polite, considerate, and tactful is antisocial as hell. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 01:19 AM
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They're looking for a man to provide to let their femininity flourish So you compete with men in the workplace directly against their ability to provide (what you claim is masculinity)... is it any wonder then men refuse to be masculine and man up and provide?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:28 AM
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SMBC What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:16 AM
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"Hi, I appreciate your interest in me, but I'm just not feeling you are the right person for me (optionally, insert X genuine reason in here)" is the opposite of antisocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:04 AM
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Marriage as it stands has no use for men, I agree. But I do not follow why it is better to completely do away with the institution instead of just reforming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:25 PM
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if people want to divorce let them. why isn't it enough of a reason to just say "i don't love this person anymore"? people change as do their emotions. Nobody said that you can't do this. You can absolutely do this with additional laws allowing this type of divorce to happen. What I don't want to allow is that any party is incentivized to leave the arrangement. How we want to disincentivize this behavior is up to society, but there absolutely should be disincentivization for choosing to marry so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:17 PM
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Dude... go back and read what I said... I was talking about very early on with a certain type of woman. I did say that specifically. Quote it. Very very doubtful. I've known men who do first date sex. They'll go through 25 women, and not ONE of these 25 women who the men SPECIFICALLY chose will have the "right personality." I doubt your doubtfulness. Most women I know just don't have what it takes to be in a relationship, it's not the men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:47 PM
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Hahaha wow. That's some backwards rationalization right there. People manipulate into casual sex all the time, or get people drunk, etc. Not everything is ethical once someone says "sure." But sure, there is causal ethical sex out there. That's why I say don't automatically judge. But yet also don't give cheating or lying men a pass. No, they don't deserve it because their special snowflake fee-fees. I'm not backwards rationalizing because you have made a strawman. You are proposing to shame man…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:32 PM
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Ethical It is ethical. Someone made a proposal for casual sex, someone accepted that proposal. Pushing it on the first date to people who don't agree with it is not fine. Please define "pushing" and how/why it is not fine? I believe it reasonable to make a proposal of casual sex if casual sex is not shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:25 PM
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Don't shame people who had casual sex before with a consenting adult. But DO shame men who try to push casual sex on a first or second date with a "normal" girl/woman who clearly isn't into it. Does not compute, I don't understand why we can't do both or neither. Either casual sex is "ok" or it is "not ok". We should either shame both or shame neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:15 PM
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whats the point of needing to provide a reason? people don't divorce just for fun. I never claimed they get divorced for "fun". Unless you equate fun to "cash and prizes" at which point you are directly contradicting what I just said. even if they want cash and prizes they can just lie their partner cheated. And in that system of laws, they would have to prove that the other partner cheated to be divorced. AKA at-fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:04 PM
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Men sitting here pretending women get pregnant by themselves. I don't reply to people who don't argue in good faith. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:54 PM
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wants out but can't? Depends on the reason for the partner to want out. If that is cash and prizes, then no. No one said we couldn't introduce more laws to allow some marriages to be dissolved. I just don't want a law that allows marriages to be dissolved for any or no reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:51 PM
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Not sure what financial abortion is. Simply put, father gives up rights to child in exchange for not having to support the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:33 PM
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I would remove all the incentives for abuse. For me personally that would be (at least): Remove no-fault divorce. If you made vows (till death do you apart), you are accountable to it. Introduce financial abortion. Introduce mandatory paternity testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:03 PM
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People who are involved in PUA and 4chan are not necessarily from mutually exclusive groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:05 PM
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While men that sleep around or are stoic and "don't have time for relationships" are usually seen as powerful. What the fuck? Where in non-modern history did society value cads or monks as powerful?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 07:03 PM
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I agree love conquers all!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:51 PM
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You act like they are mutually exclusive. Blackpill is a subset of MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:47 PM
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Anecdotally, it also seems to me that a lot of girls in FSD are in a relationship (with a HVM, obviously), while a lot of guys in MGTOW are not. How would you explain this? One cannot explain another person's anecdote with sound and convincing logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:45 PM
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I think a much stronger argument is that society actually put forth the resources to invent ways for women to make themselves more attractive with men and didn't do the same to make men more attractive to women. When we get methods to alter the things that women value in men (race and height) or ban plastic surgery then we can be fairly comparing apples to apples. Women acting like having to pay for food is a worse problem than simply not having a way to acquire food is solipsism as its finest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:48 PM
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In Ancient Egypt, body hair, especially pubic hair, was a symbol of the uncivilized, depicted as dirty and unhygienic, hence why many women opted for hair removal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:31 PM
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Ask yourself if any of the women in your entire family lineage shaved their bush before porn showed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:27 PM
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Within one generation we went from full bush to basically every woman shaving for her entire life. You mean despite all the evidence I presented to you? GTFO you aren't interested in debating. You are interested in making unsubstantiated claims to push your worldview that men are evil because one bad man raped you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:52 PM
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i dont understand how you think these look like they don't have hair? They are made out of stone and/or are 2d symbols? Well yeah the ones that are made of stones or carved symbols are because paintings haven't been invented yet (which happened ~700AD). Shaving has been around since at least the ancient egyptians (who existed between 3000BC to somewhere around 30AC): https://www.crfashionbook.com/beauty/a32332850/hair-removal-history-waxing-brazilian/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:37 PM
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Where is the hair? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_erotic_depictions#/media/File:VenusWillendorf.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_erotic_depictions#/media/File:Vulve_stylis%C3%A9e.JPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carracci_Jupiter_et_Junoncrop.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Die_Nacht_-_Night.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_erotic_depictions#/media/File:Fendi09.jpg (this one has hair around mons pubis, but none actually near the vulva, so it is likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:26 PM
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Hard to directly ask my ancestors since porn has been around since like 20 millennia ago but early depictions appear to have shaved pussies, yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_erotic_depictions#Early_depictions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:28 PM
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I make more than 90% of all men. None of this matters to women when you don't pass their basic filters which are immutable attributes like race or height.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 06:39 PM
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It’s not stressful, just not men's preference. That’s okay We’re not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 01:42 AM
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Not entirely but if it’s stressful for him to treat me to $30 worth of drinks then I don’t think our lifestyles would be compatible. Not entirely true but if it's stressful for her to pay for her half of $30 worth of drinks then I don't think our lifestyles would be compatible too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 09:07 PM
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Traditionalism is definitely on offer from women. Men takes all the traditional roles but women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 08:33 PM
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What the fuck does your strategy have to do with someone else's strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:26 AM
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People who aren't insecure often don't care or ask about past partners Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:11 AM
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because a lot of men are still providers for their women and can very easily be chosen for the financial security they bring. That doesn't particularly bother me. I'd consider weeding out someone with that viewpoint to be a bonus as well. If a man really thinks a woman values him just because she fucks him, he's either naive or stupid. Yeah, someone else's strategy to not get used as a wallet is "naive" or "stupid".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:58 PM
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BJs in bar bathrooms Ionno about you but I've met more than one woman who doesn't think it is sex unless PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:40 PM
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There's a variety of deficiencies I see, and usually these men have more than one, lack of social skills, non-existent career prospects, poor hygiene, etc... Huh? Drug-dealers and felons get laid all the fucking time. These deficiencies doesn't stop women from choosing to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 10:55 PM
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No, you misread OP, then attempted to reinterpret OP to bolster your argument. I'll stop debating you since you don't have the reading comprehension to form arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:25 PM
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No, moving on is mature. But he doesn't have to and shouldn't be expected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:24 PM
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Who said the girl has or does not have these things? It's really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:23 PM
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wow great comeback I already explained why he’s not bitter several comments ago. You’re just flailing now because you have no argument. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 04:12 PM
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And that makes him bitter how? You’re just hamstering now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:58 PM
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This is not "stick it to women his own age". This is sticking it to women who rejected him and is not in any way bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:55 PM
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And pathetic. Imagine not emotionally maturing so much that you still want a high school relationship? Load of crap. It's pathetic to expect someone to mature past something they never had.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:51 PM
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Yes, and they are both low on life experience and maturity in the way that matters with regards to love and dating. Perfect for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:48 PM
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Nowhere in the OP did he use the words "stick it to women his age". If you are going to quote, at least quote something the OP said..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:45 PM
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This does nothing to argue against anything I just said. Note the use of the word Most
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:42 PM
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I explained my logic (both are inexperienced). You just declared it without giving reason until now. You will never experience the same lack of responsibilities, carefreeness and lack of emotional baggage you have at 17 at 30. That last point alone makes it impossible for some 30yo bitter at missing out on his teenage years to experience young love. A 20yo girl and a 35yo virgin nerd both don't have responsibilities or the baggage of having been in relationships. Who said the 35 yo virgin nerd i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:40 PM
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Excellent rebuttal. Just because you declare it so does not mean that it actually is so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:21 PM
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Above average dudes are not the ones hoarding all the average women and telling the average dudes that they can't have average women.... it's the average woman telling the average dude that he isn't good enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 03:12 PM
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Umm if actions are causal to one's failure, then by definition they must be casual of one's success.... otherwise actions aren't causal..
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 02:56 PM
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You have framed this entire thing on the presumption that men are the only ones having choice, but you could make an equally valid story by framing it as younger women are choosing to date older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 02:51 PM
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Being hot (bitch or not) is not possible for a lot of women. No it's not. I've watched so many fat and sexually unattractive women in my hobby group decide to "get healthy" and they become attractive and suddenly they are drowning in attention from all the guys and also suddenly all got boyfriends. Most unattractive women could be attractive by simply losing weight. And losing weight is mostly under their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 02:44 PM
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Absolutely you can. Young love is young love because of the inexperience of both parties. The guy in this example because he used to be a broke nerd so never experienced love and dating, and the girl in this journey because she is .. young.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 02:30 PM
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In my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:15 PM
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Read my comment again. I was agreeing with you since you aren't the one pretending not to use the word as "exploit"....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:11 PM
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In the same way that "fuckboy" is a slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 09:22 AM
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No. I use it as woman who uses a man's time and attention but doesn't give him sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 09:04 AM
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And neither do I. So "fuckboys" and "attention-whore" is not dehumanizing so it's perfectly fine and you retract this statement: it's also wrote to call someone a whore full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:29 AM
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I didn't bring it into the convo. You adopted it into the other convo and used it as a caricature of a man "only wanted sex". I only adopted "attention-whore" as the female analogy to a man who wants sex, which is not derogatory in any manner just like you calling a man who wants only sex as a "fuckboy".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:17 AM
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And "fuckboys" is not derogatory how?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:10 AM
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And how did I "weaponize" attention-whore?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:05 AM
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I don’t use it You literally used it here and you even used it to defend your point. but ive never heard of a murderer or terrorist using it terrorists and rapists and murderers have said many words in the english dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 08:00 AM
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And "fuckboys" is not dehumanizing how?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:54 AM
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Yeah, sentences. So "attention-whore" is ok to say. But "I'm going to shoot that motherfucking attention-whore in the face tomorrow" (or whatever Elliot Rodgers said) is not ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:45 AM
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you broke the law by not wearing a seat belt This just underscores the parent's point... yes, some motherfucker ran the red light, but your choice to wear a seatbelt means that you could be protected. We deemed it such a common occurrence and high severity that we (as a society) made it a legal duty for you to be responsible to protect yourself. If you failed to do so, you get a criminal charge for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:32 AM
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Lmao I love it when people pretend to use an alternative definition of the word to simply justify that they weren't using the actual definition in an attempt to not lose the argument. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/use to take advantage of a person or situation; to exploit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:17 AM
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terrorists and rapists and murderers have said many words in the english dictionary. I guess every word in Elliot Rodger's manifesto is an insult and therefore we can't say any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:11 AM
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no? She did use him for time and attention and she is an attention whore? it's also wrote to call someone a whore full stop. But it's ok to call people "fuckboys"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 07:03 AM
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So if a woman strings a guy along and then refuses him sex and then he complains: "oh she's such an attention whore, she used me for validation" Do you agree this is not entitlement?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 06:29 AM
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And yet women complain they are constantly dating men who only want to use them for sex? So there's a couple of possibilities here: You live in a special bubble of dudes who check all the boxes. NarniaFox somehow filters out all the men who do check the boxes. (AKA her actual list is longer than this). 95% of dudes don't actually check all the boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:46 PM
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Lol what man would want a woman with that mindset though it’s so gross to us it’s as bad as LVM are to you FDS gals. At the end of the day gender norms exist. Follow them or don’t it’s up to you but some people might disagree with you and not date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:33 PM
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Girls who are traditional would have picked TRP guys in their youths, not wait until the guys have a job, a big nest egg, and they themselves are well beyond their desirable age. Is it any wonder then, when women actively compete with men for work (aka acquiring resources for the purpose of provisioning), then men are less willing to actually provision said women? Y'all act like you have the value of a feminine virgin 20-year-old still in college but men know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:54 PM
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And the discussion over the check is never going to be more important than all the conversation we had before that, the real substance of the date. Right, so if a man decides that in 2021 - when women have mostly reached pay equity in the workplace - that it would only be fair if they split the bill. If she argues that he doesn't value her presence by paying the entire bill... then one can conclude that she's a person conditions her affections on the value he can provide monetarily, not on what …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:18 PM
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I wouldn't date you anyways LOL, that is the whole point of my point - it's perfect because the whole idea is to filter out people with this POV asap. Lol ok. Just filter, no need to make sure that your filters actually work as opposed to leaving you with people who don't treat you as an equal. You know, the men who actually recognize equality as opposed to simps who will kowtow to your demands. If I were still dating and every man on earth had your attitude - I would just not date - and I'm cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:14 PM
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That's not equality; it's splitting value in a way that conveniences men. But like I said, none of that really matters, because dating really just comes down to leverage, not equality or any of this other nonsense. Bull-fucking-shit. No matter how much women declare it, the man paying for the date is not splitting the value fairly. Dating is not purely about leverage. You may hold tons of leverage against me, but if I refuse to accept your conditions then we aren't dating. I only said that there…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:49 AM
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Well, I'd prefer it if men all shaved their legs and crotch and took the time to style their hair; I'd even prefer it if they wore makeup to look nicer. And then there's the childbearing - that one really sucks. It would be super awesome if men actually bore them instead of me. I'd prefer it if women asked me out, and killed all the bears/wolves/spiders/robbers/wasps that came to my house. I'd love it if men would not have to worry about the offspring is actually theirs and they are not spending…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:06 AM
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Yeah, demanding equality is "holding negative views on women".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 05:14 AM
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If we can't hold women accountable with at-fault divorces do you think we'll really meet the standards needed to establish a felony????
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:35 AM
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IME women rarely marry equal or down so that isn't even something I can observe with any kind of statistical likelihood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:31 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-fault_divorce In the States of Wisconsin, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Nebraska, Montana, Missouri, Minnesota, Michigan, Kentucky, Kansas, Iowa, Indiana, Hawaii, Florida, Colorado and California, a person seeking a divorce is not permitted to allege a fault-based ground (e.g. adultery, abandonment or cruelty). The National Organization for Women opposed the introduction of no-fault divorce in New York State because it would allow a party who actually is at fault t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:25 AM
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You can't be in favor of no-fault divorces and felonious divorces at the same time. No-fault divorces are literally laws that remove findings of fault on divorces. In a world of no-fault divorce, you cannot claim your spouse was cheating to avoid alimony, let alone put her in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:18 AM
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Not only this, but being married legally means that he can put her into even more debt no?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:03 AM
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And/Or Men are afraid to leave relationships because leaving a relationship literally makes him bankrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:00 AM
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Are your dishes done? Yup. Did you cook something more complex than ramen or a frozen pizza for dinner? Grilled a nice steak. Are your sheets clean? Washed them on Sunday. But since today is Wednesday, sorta? When was the last time you changed your underwear? This morning when I took a shower. How much shit is in your cats litter box? About 8 hours worth. And my backyard to my house has some of my dog's shit in it too. How’s the underside of your toilet seat looking? Looking great. I mean I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:58 AM
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Lol that ship sailed the other way with no-fault divorces in the 1970s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:51 AM
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What issues? At least whores are explicit about the transaction here. They want money and give sex. You, on the other hand, seem to want money without reciprocating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:20 AM
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Lol cya. You are the one that's not considering men's experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:19 AM
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Lol. Any male can go out and pay for sex. As for "love"... if this is how women act when they say they love men... no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:16 AM
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Males don't want to be men, because women aren't acting like ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:14 AM
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You can't even articulate the reason. Feefees over equality!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:04 AM
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Nah y’all are too cheap to pay for your own dinner, and it’s seen as shameful, while you gals are proud when successfully friendzone another simp. And yes I can honestly say we don’t use women for sex. Before you link some “I slept with 12689 women and ghosted them” article from some struggling young writer, he dated for an article, not food. Nobody really does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:02 AM
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As a man I can tell you the vast majority of us don’t care to use you for sex. Why would I waste time talking to a woman I’m not interested in, when I could go call a hooker who will leave me alone at the end of the night? We only care because willingness to split the bill shows the woman isn't a gold digger who is only after our money. Can you honestly say women don’t like to use men for food?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:53 PM
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While I get that attraction isn't rational, you should fundamentally determine why you feel the need to condition it on "if he asked me out". Everyone feels valued and attractive when someone else pays for our shit. Does a guy who YOU asked out and then he paid for everything also makes you feel more attracted?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:37 PM
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Lol no, you both already gave up your options and chose each other. That's why no one should pay for each other. You both chose to give up your other options for a date to explore whether or not something will work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:29 PM
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It doesn't matter what you believe. Men believe that women greatly overestimate men’s desire to use women for sex vs women's very real tendency to use men for a $30 meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:24 PM
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I could care less about a "free" $30 dinner at whatever restaurant. And how can men know that? IME, a good proportion of women really do just go on a date for a free meal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:09 PM
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They’re refusing to pay because they don’t value you much, resent women, or are cheap people. Cool, you can't think of a reason why men would refuse to pay except these 3 reasons? It's ironic that women have strategies to avoid being used and then don't recognize that men also have strategies to avoid being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 08:06 PM
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If her attraction is contingent on you spending a few bucks... I think they call that gold-digger...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:55 PM
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Another man is as likely to lie to you (or not) as my platonic male friends/coworkers are to lie (or not) to me. I don't think this is true. I (a man) am more PC when I'm around women, some don't understand what it is like to be a man and will call us misogynists or terrorists and we can't take the risk of having our lives ruined by such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:52 PM
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if he didn't pay if he asked me out Are you saying if a guy didn't pay or a guy didn't (at least) split? I agree if he asked you out but made you pay for all of it, that's not in the spirit of egalitarianism (both people contribute equally). If you look down on him for asking to split, it's a bit hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:43 PM
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And how do you know that the guy didn't have lots of options that would have accepted as well and decided to grace you with his presence? By that logic you should be paying for his meals no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 07:42 PM
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Most guys period aren’t getting laid; women won't fuck someone who they don't find attractive, because women are so shallow, narrow minded and unrealistic. ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:55 PM
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You don't get to tell them what or what not to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 02:44 PM
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Speaking with caveats in every affirmative statement is tiresome No, it's they don't have the time because it's tiresome. You aren't arguing in good faith here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 01:57 PM
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This post is tagged as CMV which means "Change My View". The author is asking that top-level comments should attempt to change their view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:06 PM
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It's biology Hmm. I care about n-count not because of biology, but more that our culture (unfairly imo) punishes men when a seperation happens and promiscuity correlates with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:02 PM
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all I see is removed 👀 Probably because lots of people don't seem to be able to understand the rules of this sub. For "CMV" and "Question for X" Threads: Parent comments that aren't from the target group will be removed, along with their child replies. CMV = Change My View.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:48 PM
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I strongly prefer a woman who's had at least several partners... You aren't the target audience for this CMV then...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:42 PM
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To anyone wondering where did all nice, traditional and innocent girls go. Girls who gave up their innocence for a little time and attention killed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:03 PM
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So you want a woman with a low N count, but in the same time you don't wanna wait. So should she behave like this with every man that seems compatible at first? She can be a strong independent woman and act whichever way she wants. If she has sex on every 3rd date, because you were compatible ENOUGH. And then some guy she had sex with dumps her, she's now no longer a virgin and has a higher N count. Is she supposed to be incredibly good at reading people's true intentions from just 3 dates? Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:15 PM
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You're obligated to wait for sex on dates. No one is obligated to anything. From an equitable value exchange standpoint: if she finds my time and attention valuable and I find her low-N count sexual intimacy valuable, then if she withholds sexual intimacy then I withhold my status and attention. She can't have the cake and eat it too as well. I don't need to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:54 PM
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If someone likes speaking generalizations, that means they’re not smart enough to use their words better. Or it means that don't have the time nor inclination to write a comprehensive treatise on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:41 PM
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You have to have a space after the > character. You asked for an example of whether home insurance policies do this, so when I provided ONE policy that does this, it is enough of a counterexample. Maybe in Canada they don't think homeowners should have responsibilities to secure their home but I live somewhere where they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 01:50 AM
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Is that a real thing insurance companies can do? Or are homeowners protected even if they leave a door unlocked? https://www.yourmoney.com/insurance/blog-dont-accidentally-invalidate-your-home-insurance/ If there is no evidence of a forced entry and it appears a burglar strolled in through an unlocked door, your home insurer may refuse to meet your claim. They might say you failed to take appropriate measures to properly secure the property and therefore deem your policy invalid. BTW, you can qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:40 PM
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Where did I say anything about fault here? If you mean "responsible" then that's a qualified yes and is the reason why I said: depending on context. If you bought a house in a neighborhood known to be high crime and you did nothing to secure the house you bought, then yes, buying a house (and not securing it) means you are partly responsible and the insurance companies agree with that and tried to hold you responsible to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:29 PM
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By allowing them to have the opportunity in the first place? If your insurance contract says that you have to close your front door in order to avoid being robbed and you left it open, is the insurance company "victim blaming"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 11:10 PM
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Shit why can't it be both? Victim can (depending on situation) be responsible for being abused. Abuser definitely responsible for abusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:52 PM
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https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Extremes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 10:48 PM
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Enthusiastic sex is the least laborious. I feel like you're not acknowledging this for some reason. Like it requires absolutely no effort. It's not a boring chore and I love doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:45 PM
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labor You must not be having enthusiastic sex if you believe sex to be labor. I don't perform labor when I go play musical instruments, race my cars, go see a movie, or fuck a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 07:26 PM
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Divorce rate isn't measured per year because marriages typically lasts longer than a year. What you are stating is the probability of getting divorced in a particular year (0.27% in 2020).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 03:09 PM
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Sure? I don’t know much about the regions you named. I'm fairly certain they are talking about castes which are not regions but social classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:24 PM
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No, the more selective group is the one that has the power. This is basic economics. In this case it is the women and because they don't pick "average", then it leads to the skewed distribution above.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:45 PM
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Where is the question here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:07 PM
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Interesting. Care to elaborate? Because FDS derides RPW as a bunch of pickmeishas so they don't seem to subscribe to RedPill philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 02:00 PM
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Why is what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:56 PM
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It boggles my mind that the same men who bitch that “most men are invisible to women” are the same men who call women whores if they have had sex with men other than themselves, but here we are again. I see no contradiction here. Loose women = whore. Nothing wrong with fucking a whore, just don't marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:30 PM
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Your math doesn't work. How can men simultaneously not have any dates or choices and women simultaneously have hundreds of men wanting to date them (and are going on dates with a new guy eve try day of the week). How does the math work here exactly? Wouldn't just by virtue of the law of averages that every guy would get a lot of dates as well? That's because you look at mean instead of median. 10 guys, 10 girls. 8 girls accept dates from the same 2 guys. You are right, when count as a group, gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:59 PM
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You appear to feel differently though so you should enlighten them. This is exactly what I did, by addressing your post only suggesting to filter out men instead of looking at themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:54 PM
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That’s what I interpreted OP to be referring to when she talks about men’s behavior changing. Always the men's fault isn't it? Men's behavior did change but it's because no one will court someone forever with no reciprocity. Just filter out for your Disney prince who will woo you with lavish gifts and attention forever!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:13 PM
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Yes, and my advice is that instead of uselessly learning some magical skill to pick out men likely to be bored, that maybe it's because the problem is with yourself. I find it hard to believe that the average man will get bored when a woman is putting as much effort (or more) than the man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:43 PM
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If your relationships keep faltering around this stage then you need to learn to identify those men. I think it is more likely that you need to identify in yourself that relationships are 2-sided and make some f***ing effort into romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:32 PM
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Cool. When the robber or bear or spider or wolf attacks, I'll leave you to defend our home territory while I go cower in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 08:05 PM
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Which pill is FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:34 PM
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I'm probably top 5-1% of men This is a case of the king telling starving people what's so great about spaghetti and meatballs? I prefer lobster and steak.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:07 AM
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when the fact is probably closer to the opposite. Why does this have to be young vs old? In fact, I think both young and old men would prefer endless amounts of sex with every attractive woman they meets. Of course, that's a terrible way to build a society with half of it not responsible for the children, so we've gone and made legal rules and socialized men to "man up" and take responsibility for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:09 PM
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OP's timeline refers to the men who never got attention in their 20s and now having achieved success and options, including the option to just not deal with the high demands (put a ring on it) and little value (withholding sex) from women wanting marriage. Yours is also an alternative timeline, but his is not "off".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:01 PM
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The difference is that an ex-slut had value in her youth simply by existing and taking minimal care of herself while the man in his 30s with a nice comfortable life worked hard to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 02:53 PM
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I didn't imply women do not care about looks. Only that it is a bare minimum standard FOR MEN
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 07:08 PM
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Yeah, having bare minimum standards in that you must be sexually attracted to your partner is "shallow and narcissistic".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:32 PM
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Are you lost? What the fuck does this have anything to do with this comment thread? The whole point of this thread is that the bare minimum for a woman is to be attractive to men (i.e. hot). If they don't meet that standard, no one except "LVM" wants to date them, let alone have a relationship with them. No one here is making any claims on what women find to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:25 PM
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I don't follow. Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 07:06 AM
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They also said passions were a “non factor”, and that is the part I was arguing with. It's non-factor if you aren't already attractive. Also they said “it all comes down to if you are hot”, which makes it sound like that is the only important part and nothing else matters. That is exactly what he means. If you aren't hot, none of that matters. Besides, would women be any more likely to “waste their time committing to an unattractive hard to deal with” man?? It’s not a gender thing to want a qual…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 04:20 AM
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You didn't rebut his point at all. Let me reiterate the important part for you: if your not attractive, no man (outside of a LVM) will waste their time committing to a unattractive hard to deal with woman It would be a rebuttal if your husband is not a LVM (whatever that means?) and he chose to marry you but wasn't attracted to you (whatever that means? I think for men it is usually physical/sexual in nature) and that he married you only for your passion and brains but you are ugly as sin to him…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:29 AM
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It's kind of hilarious how she keeps talking about her time like it's the only thing which is valuable. These people self-select themselves out of the marriage pool lol.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/21 11:43 PM
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When I get those calls I tell them I'm happy where I am and am not looking...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/21 08:00 AM
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Mothers get abused by men, encourage sons to be nice guys. That's an interesting supposition but so far as I know it was society that taught me to be a "nice" guy because that's what everyone wants (teamwork lets you build things you cannot do by yourself) and not just my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 07:14 AM
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That hot girl is probably just as good a conversationalist as that frumpy girl. Personally I don't find this to be true. There are a lot of hot girls who lead very predictable boring lives (partying all the time...) which makes for really stupid conversations about their latest stupid wild thing they did. The quiet introverted wallflower often has something interesting to say if you get to know them. The problem is that they're introverted so it's hard to get them to open up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 06:24 AM
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