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I would say it's much less of a problem. A lot of women respond very positively to arrogance in men.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre16/09/19 11:42 PM
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Yes, I am pretty sure that if you measured the actual economic contribution of the typical single mom and compared it to the support she receives from men (either directly or indirectly) it would be shockingly low. And of course we are supposed to pretend that they are "strong and independent "
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/19 05:44 AM
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Yeah, I think most single moms are pretty jaded and resentful of men as a group. Getting (literally) fucked over is probably pretty damaging.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/06/19 05:15 AM
12

I guess this is sarcasm, but in case it isn't consider all the men who work at dirty, dangerous, miserable jobs; who endure grinding commutes; who put in overtime week after week in order to support their families. Consider that they keep doing this for years after their wives' beauty has faded. It's completely reasonable for a man to want and expect a wife who is attentive and devoted.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/19 09:20 AM
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Not exactly what you have in mind, but there do exist subcultures with strong social norms to keep women in check. I am talking about Amish; ultra Orthodox Jews;FLDS; etc. In all of these groups divorce is rare; recreational dating (ie the cock carousel) is almost unheard of; female infidelity is heavily stigmatized; leadership positions are for men. Perhaps most importantly these subcultures give men the respect and appreciation we deserve, as opposed to constantly shitting on us and blaming al…
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 03:54 AM
2

You could definitely call this a pot and kettle situation.
/r/MGTOW17/06/19 03:25 AM
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I wonder how common it is for male dating profiles to say "You must be able to tolerate X about me."? I bet it's pretty unusual.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/06/19 03:04 AM
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Even if they stay in shape, sexual attraction fades pretty fast. If regular hot sex is important to you, absolutely don't get married unless your wife is okay with you banging other women.
/r/MGTOW07/06/19 12:06 AM
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Most obese people are food addicts.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 04:04 AM
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It depends what you mean by "best" The most sexually exciting partner is not necessary the best overall.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 01:56 AM
4

Yes, not only do I agree that junk food is a good analogy, I am pretty sure it's the same brain circuitry that's being overloaded. I.e. if you did an MRI image of this girl's brain while she's fucking Chad, it would be eerily similar to that of a fat person who is eating potato chips.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 01:52 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it were fake. It's rare for women to accept responsibility for their predicaments.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/19 01:43 AM
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There are literally thousands of vlogs, blog posts, news paper articles etc. by women who find themselves in this situation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/06/19 05:48 AM
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I don't expect to convince you of anything but if there are any lurkers reading this, ask yourself what was the first US State to give women the vote and when. The answer is Wyoming in 1869. There was very little Jewish influence anywhere in the US in 1869, let alone in Wyonimg. It was pure male thirst at work. Since then, the US has been steadily moving to the Left. Jewish people became influential about 100 years later. People who blame the Jews are essentially arguing that whatever was pushin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/19 10:33 PM
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When you blame everything on the Jews, you are no different from feminists who blame everything on men. Even in the most Jew haring countries in the world, birth rates are dropping, women are being given more and more rights, gynocentrism and feminism are taking root. And the cause is very simple. It's not some conspiracy of Jews or illuminati or communists. It's just the male instinct to seek female validation combined with sufficient wealth to avoid immediate negative consequences. Wealth + hu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/05/19 08:42 PM
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It's possible that a girl really made that claim to him, either because she is exaggerating or she's not disclosing that she does a lot more than sell nudes online. I think a hooker who is young and attractive can make $10k a month no problem.
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 02:08 PM
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A man has to be very wealthy to find a woman who will agree to such an arrangement. Also, you need to find a woman who will be a decent mom and who is in good health. There are very few women like this and competition for them is fierce. The other problem I see is that even in friendlier jurisdictions, the deck is still stacked pretty heavily against men. What mom decides to cut off your access to your children? What if she fabricates false accusations? These problems are not insurmountable but …
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 01:53 PM
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I really hope this advert is parody/trolling but I think it's real. It's fascinating how women's demands and sense of entitlement increase with age. I guess they are thinking "Chad fucked me 20 years ago and since then I've become more worldly and experienced. "
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/05/19 12:52 PM
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I disagree that men care most about sex, but it's true that men can be deceptive and manipulative. That's why societal norms are necessary for men just like with women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/19 11:58 PM
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Men don't do the exact same thing, but we do have destructive instincts. That's why there need to be societal norms and laws to keep these destructive instincts in check. Feminism is about removing all the traditional checks on female behavior-- with predictably negative results.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/05/19 01:13 PM
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What this post shows is that the hypergamy instinct is amoral. This woman would really like to be sexually attracted to Billy Beta but she's not. Would it help if she (and society) acknowledged that chemistry = looks; that women have "chemistry" only with the top 20% of men; that as a result, the majority of women will never marry an alpha provider? Perhaps, but it won't change the fact that it sucks for both parties to a relationship if the woman has zero sexual interest in the man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/05/19 01:35 PM
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I agree but what I am curious about is how often and how loudly the Church exhorts young women to stay chaste and marry young? I would guess it's pretty unusual in more liberal churches.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/19 02:53 AM
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But is she telling the truth or is she lying? Did she let herself get impregnated by some random dude she wants nothing to do with? Or does she have feelings for the guy and "sperm donor" is a cope but she will always drop her panties for him if he snaps his fingers? Hard to say which is worse, but it doesn't really matter. I would never date a single mom, perhaps with an extremely narrow exception for a young widow with only 1 child who had been married to a solid guy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/05/19 01:35 AM
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I wonder what percentage of men are single, sufficiently wealthy to set a woman up in style, and marriage minded? Probably well under 1%.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/05/19 11:09 PM
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I wonder how average guys would feel about it if they got to participate in the sexual free-for-all from ages 18 to 25. I mean, it's annoying to be served leftovers if you had to sit on the sidelines while others are feasting. But what if you get a piece of the action? Back in the 80s and 90s it was not too hard for an average guy to get laid if he wanted to.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/19 02:59 PM
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Well, does "settling" mean accepting someone who is less than your ideal? Or is it accepting someone who is less than what you think you deserve? I think that when men settle, they are usually thinking something like "ok, she's not a supermodel, but I think I can make do." When women settle, they tend to think they are getting cheated somehow.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/19 01:41 AM
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The reality of human nature is pretty horrendous. Society likes to pretend that Women are Wonderful but that's just a fantasy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 10:27 PM
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"Conspiracy" is an interesting straw man. In reality, female hypergamy is not the result of any conspiracy, it's simply female nature. In fact most women will readily admit to being hypergamous as long as it's framed in a positive way. e.g. "men are dogs who will fuck almost anything while women are picky and can be happy with just 1 good man." The only reason women object to the okcupid chart is because after a little thought, it makes them seem shallow and unreasonable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 10:25 PM
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You can bet that she constantly judges men over things, even stuff like height over which they have no control. Heck, the post itself is implicitly judging men who decline to get involved with a pregnant woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 04:06 PM
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What's also a natural instinct is for men to bail on their children; to ditch their wives for someone younger; to manipulate women into sex; and so on. That's why society has norms and laws in place to keep this sort of destructive behaviour in check. When people talk about taking women's rights away, it's mainly about putting the same sorts of limits on what would otherwise be unfettered sexual freedom.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 01:18 PM
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"Grudging " is a key point here. The difference between a woman who is enthusiastic and one who is unenthusiastic is like night and day from the first moment you meet. Having experienced both, I definitely would prefer full on monk life to being with a woman who was not that into me.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/04/19 12:20 PM
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Yes when women write about their failed relationships, it's rare for them to make the man out to be sympathetic in any way. He was always "controlling" or "abusive" or whatever.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/19 01:30 PM
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Yes when women end relationships they retroactively make the man into a terrible person.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/19 01:26 PM
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The story is obviously fake. If it were real, the man would be "abusive"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/19 01:25 PM
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Yes good point. Very likely the problem is NOT that she is attracted to men who are unavailable. It's that she dates the most physically attractive men she can who of course are unavailable because they are interested in her only as a p&d.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/04/19 11:28 PM
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Perhaps there should be a flair for women who reverse the usual AFBB strategy. It's actual pretty ingenious: when you are in the prime of your youth, find some rich older guy who thinks he's finally found a unicorn. Trap him with a couple babies, and you still get a good 15 or 20 years to ride the CC
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/04/19 08:28 PM
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I would say that depends on the law in your jurisdiction. I think that in a lot of jurisdictions, a husband is a presumptive father regardless of whether he signs. In a lot of cases, a man who discovers he is the victim of paternity fraud is better off playing along with it and pretending nothing is wrong so that he can arrange his life to prepare for the divorce proceedings.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/19 01:49 PM
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I agree, but as men, we need to worry more about protecting ourselves on an individual basis than about changing laws or public policies. If we lived in a world where there were a possibility of convincing legislators to adopt mandatory paternity testing, there would already be protections in place against paternity fraud.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/04/19 10:11 AM
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Yeah it is almost certainly fake. Still, guys need to keep in mind that (1) most women of childbearing age have literally hundreds of opportunities per year to easily get casual sex; (2) if you are not Chad, your wife's instincts are screaming at her to fuck Chad behind your back; (3) there are literally no legal consequences for her doing so; and (4) the social stigma is getting milder with every passing year. The smart thing to do is to quietly have your children tested in infancy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/03/19 10:58 PM
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I wonder what percentage of romantic problems boil down to "you're just not attractive enough to attract the people you find attractive. " Probably like 80-90%.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/19 09:07 PM
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Is an Indian woman ever concerned that their arranged husband won't find HER appealing? As a man, if I were entering an arranged marriage, I would be concerned about both issues: is she appealing to me; and am I appealing to her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 04:25 PM
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Any time men publicly complain about their lack of success with women, they are met with ridicule, scorn, and accusations of having an entitlement mentality. The usual complaint is "I treat women well; I do nice things for them; I support feminism; why won't they date me?" And actually this complaint is more legitimate than this arwa's complaint.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 11:21 AM
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Yes she is well below average. I would charitably give her a 2.5
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 12:33 AM
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The reality is that it's femininity that's in crisis due to women's fixation on independently achieving wealth and social status by pursuing education and career to the exclusion of marriage and family.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 12:31 AM
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Yes, there are no mainstream articles lamenting women's "fixation" with height, looks, financial success etc. No, those are just muh preferences. The fact is that if you marry a 35 year old woman and immediately start trying for children, there is less than a 50.50 chance of having 3 healthy children without trouble. Not that we men should have to justify our preferences. Nobody in the mainstream asks women to justify their preferences for tall or handsome men. "I find it attractive" is sufficie…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 12:28 AM
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What's also interesting is when they complain about becoming invisible in their late 30s. That there is a double standard when it comes to aging. The reality is that the extra attention they receive in their late teens and 20s is exactly and mathematically balanced out by the reduction in desirability afterwards. But somehow they think they should be considered desirable at their 20s level into their 30s and 40s. Even though this is mathematically impossible. That said, I think it's not so much …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/19 12:20 AM
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She was almost certainly trading on her looks and youth -- one way or another.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 06:20 PM
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Yes it's a cliche but there is some truth to it: women like men with experience; men prefer women without experience. And I agree: I would much rather go somewhere with a woman that she's never been before. Either we are both discovering it for the first time or she is new to it and I am showing her things.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 03:45 PM
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Despite the insane gynocentrism of modern society, this is why I would rather be a man. Probably 30 years ago she was pretty cute. To go from being a highly desired young cutie to a hag must be pretty traumatizing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 03:10 PM
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The bone loss in the jaw is what does it for me. Yuck! Probably she's already making those lip snacking sounds that old people make.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 03:07 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me how women think it's a positive for them to have travelled the world. Yes it's projection, but it's also pretty delusional.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 03:04 PM
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A lot people really don't understand the strength gap between men and women. Consider Hollywood movies which show women punching men out. A lot of people don't understand that this is pure fantasy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 02:31 PM
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I would guess that she mainly wants attention and doesn't care that she's being made fun of.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 02:29 PM
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Yeah this woman is a really good example of how sexual experience damages women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 02:08 PM
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It's an interesting phrase. For men, "decent looking" means "not repulsive" For women it means "Chad."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 01:54 PM
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Another reason to talk to women is that society worships them. If you are seen talking with a woman it raises your social status. But yeah, in actual conversations they tend not to be very interesting. Also, the educated ones tend to be rather arrogant and insufferable. They may accuse us of "mansplaining" but I find it's more common for women to act as if they are experts on subjects about which they know very little.
/r/MGTOW25/03/19 09:41 AM
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Yes. I love her dearly but the reality is that she's not a very interesting person. Also she can't really focus or get to the point.
/r/MGTOW25/03/19 09:34 AM
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You can discuss fertility as long as you pretend that there is basically no difference between male and female fertility.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 09:16 AM
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Interesting. But it seems you can discuss fertility if you spout the party line that there is no difference between male fertility and female fertility. In other words, what triggers them is the notion that there is an area of life where men have a natural advantage over women. If men had the same narrow fertility window, then it would be perfectly fine to discuss it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 09:10 AM
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For women, "decent looking" means the top 10-20% of men. So if she's not in the top 10-20% of women, the best she can hope for is a p&d. Commitment is mathematically impossible.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/03/19 12:46 AM
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What's interesting is that as she puts more and more miles on the odometer, her requirements get stricter and stricter. Each failed relationship; each disappointing fling; each pump and dump makes her harder to satisfy. It doesn't help that she is teetering on the edge of the wall.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/19 10:57 PM
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You can bet that 99% of the women on that sub are exactly the sort of Strong Independent Women we spoke fun at here.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/19 06:48 PM
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I think it's just general gynocentrism. The general rule in society is that you don't say anything that offends m'lady. The male mods there are classic white knights.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/19 06:29 PM
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Thanks for posting this. I actually commented on the thread but my comment was shadowbanned. Basically I pointed out that while it's true that men have a biological clock, people shouldn't use that fact to distract from the very real truth that the male fertility window is much wider than that of females. I pointed out that a 50 year old man who wants children is like a 35 year old woman. There is increased risk but it's doable. The mods shadowbanned my post and also responded with a carefully c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/19 06:17 PM
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Perhaps it's because they have very little positive to offer but they feel they have to put something.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/03/19 11:15 AM
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In my view, the biggest problem is the woman's assumption that her career and education enhances her desirability. The more desirable the woman thinks herself to be, the more annoying and less attractive she is as a relationship partner. The second biggest problem is that intellectual arrogance is a major turnoff in women. Women who think they know a lot tend to be insufferable bitches.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre24/03/19 04:37 AM
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Too perfect.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/19 01:29 PM
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Serious question: do you accept that women's instincts push them towards pursuing a dual mating strategy?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 11:32 AM
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Whatever, your mask slipped off for a second. You can put it back on if you want, but all the guys here know what's underneath.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 11:25 AM
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Women as a group - particularly those who post on /r/sluttingover30 - really did criticize this guy for insisting on an inexpensive date. If a man does not feel comfortable spending money on a woman, is his choice respected?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 11:23 AM
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You are the one who generalized by baselessly acusing men - and only men - of projecting. The reasonable inference is that you are a typical lying man hating feminist. Again my question: how exactly was I projecting?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 11:20 AM
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It's a fact that most women deny their dual mating strategy to others and themselves. It's obvious that you subconsciously categorized this man as someone to be used for resources. Too bad for you he didn't accept his designated role.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 10:54 AM
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Yikes, we are being invaded by a lying man hating feminist. Sorry, it's just not credible that a 40 year old American woman who is sexually into a man would be afraid to go his place for a cooking date. Anyway how exactly am I projecting dear?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 10:49 AM
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Good point. Probably it would cost under $1000 to set up a full wardrobe for a woman which would be perfectly attractive to a man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 05:27 PM
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As a side note, that's one of the dirty little secrets of modern society. Very few women are actually interesting people who are stimulating to spend time with. We guys spend time with women because (1) we are hoping to get laid; (2) we crave female validation; and (3) it raises our social status to be seen with women. In all my years, I have met perhaps 5 women who would be worth hanging out with if they were dudes
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 10:01 AM
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Only when society understands and accepts that male desires and needs are legitimate. Right now, the unwritten rule is that average men are supposed to freely sacrifice their time attention and resources for women; that if they ask for or expect anything in return, they are creepy entitled misogynistic pigs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 08:33 AM
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I actually disagree a bit. If a 40 year old American woman refuses to be alone with a man on the third date, it almost certainly means that she is not sexually attracted to him. If she is not sexually attracted to you, spending money won't fix the problem. It will just make her lose respect for you. I think that this is an area where we guys have an unfortunate tendency to project. If a guy agrees to go on a date with a girl, he's almost always sexually attracted to her. So it's natural to assum…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 08:27 AM
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Imagine if the puppy was a rescue dog from an aggressive breed; you had no idea what it's history was like; you had no legal right to defend yourself if it attacked you; and if you put it up for adoption you had give away half your stuff. In that case very few people would adopt a dog. Marriage is very similar except that men put up with a bad deal because we are so desperate for sex, female validation, and children.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 07:45 AM
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It depends on what else the man has to offer. If he is wealthy or physically attractive or both, many women would date him. Which is fine, because all successful romantic relationships are ultimately transactional. Each side contributes something that the other side wants or needs. At the end of the day, the problem addressed by this sub is that women as a group and society in general have a tendency to dismiss devalue and delegitimize men's desires and needs.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 06:31 AM
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The real problem here is that he is a man who stands up for himself and won't allow himself to be used. "My money my choice" are words that women hate to hear
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 06:15 AM
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My money my choice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 06:07 AM
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Yes, and there is another clue here: After she rejected the cooking date and he told her he was on a budget, she made no counterproposal. If she were really into him, she would have said "ok, let's meet for a cup of coffee and people watch." I am pretty confident this woman is a classic time waster who enjoys stringing guys along for attention and validation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 06:00 AM
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Probably he WOULD be into her if she were into him. If she refuses to be alone with him, it's a strong indication that she's not that into him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 04:35 AM
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Probably he didn't even need to go all the way, he just wanted to know that things were headed towards a sexual relationship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 04:34 AM
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Agreed. Almost certainly the issue here is intimacy not money. If you are a guy, it's easy to spend a lot of time and money on women who are just stringing you along and have zero interest in a sexual relationship.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 04:28 AM
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I agree that this is outside the scope of WAATGM but her post does illustrate something, which is that very frequently women use men for validation.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 03:50 AM
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Disagree, she wants a tall successful "gentleman " which means she wants a man who has all of the traditionally desired male qualities. Fine, but does she offer any traditionally desirable female qualities such as chastity, youth, innocence or submissiveness? Absolutely not, she has a child already and she's fucked so many guys that she has to put a note in her profile not to message her if you've been with her in the past. Not only that, but her claim of being independent is almost certainly bu…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/03/19 03:43 AM
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Actually this is an area where life is pretty fair, at least for women. Almost every woman can attract a few marriage proposals from stable family oriented guys if they (1) don't overeat; (2) treat men with a minimal amount of respect; and (3) make it a priority in their early 20s. That is literally all it takes 99% of the time. If a woman is thin, under 25, and not a complete bitch, plenty of guys will line up to put a ring on it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 10:38 AM
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A lot of the time, miscarriages are nature's way of aborting fetuses with serious problems.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 10:30 AM
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I don't have a lot of sympathy. Almost any woman can get a husband and children if she makes it a priority in life. Even as a man, I was able to marry young and have children by skipping the opportunity to have lots of casual sex and by spending my first few years as a father in a small apartment with shitty neighbors.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 10:28 AM
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Yeah it's pretty amazing. "Let's talk about the difficulties faced by older women in finding a family oriented husband WITHOUT discussing the increased fertility problems those same women can expect" Really it's just another example of the rampant gynocentrism of Western society. Men's feelings and preferences matter little, even if they are objectively reasonable. Women's feelings and preferences are paramount, even if they are objectively unreasonable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 10:21 AM
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Yes, I would call it a dramatization of a real problem. Which is that most women don't have much gratitude or respect for the beta providers or orbiters who support them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 08:13 AM
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Yes the story is fake - just like 95% of the stories on twoxchromosomes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 08:00 AM
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I basically agree, but come on this story is fake.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 07:58 AM
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Let's suppose a girl has a "no sex until the third date" rule and that it's based on her own experiences and not something she looked up online. What that means is that she's been pumped and dumped multiple times. It means that her trust in men as a group has been eroded. It means that she feels she belongs in a position of power with respect to men. All of these things will make it more difficult to have a long term relationship with her. But it's actually worse than that, because it's pretty l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 06:48 AM
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Funny that you need to shoehorn your "realities" into an anonymous online discussion.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/03/19 06:16 AM
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Spare me your cuckoldry fantasies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/19 08:22 AM
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Just being unfunny is not such a big deal. Virtually no women are funny. What I dont like is when the woman thinks that her nasty sarcastic comments make her funny.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/19 06:11 AM
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I think that in general if the woman has rules or policies for dating, it's a bad sign. As you allude to, it means she's been burned in the past and she is more jaded and less innocent.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/19 06:05 AM
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I'm calling fake on this one. There's just way too much self awareness and acceptance of responsibility for this to be an actual woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/19 05:55 AM
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I think that for the most part women actually can rely on their appearance. If a woman is young, decent looking, and not batshit crazy or a complete bitch, plenty of guys will be interested in a long term relationship with her. Anyway, this woman is probably about a 5/10 in looks. That's plenty attractive enough to be called "pretty" on Facebook and, if you are young, to have a beta orbiter or two. It's also attractive enough to convince Chad to let you suck his cock when he is feeling bored and…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/19 04:09 AM
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Nowadays if your children are abnormally short they can be given hormones. So choosing a non short husband is more about sexual preference.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/19 07:14 PM
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Yes I am a man in my 40s and I am not attracted to women in their 40s. But the thing is this: if a woman in her 40s hits on me, I don't invent excuses for my lack of attraction. I don't claim that she's "creepy." Also, I fully accept the mathematical consequences of my preferences combined with those of other men my age: it's simply not possible for any except the most desirable middle aged guys to have a 25 year old girlfriend. And of course I don't hate women for being unattractive to me. By c…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/19 03:49 AM
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I have already explained to you twice in simple terms why your reasoning is gynocentric and biased. Let's do this: Why did you apply a criteria to men of having a steady job and their own place? By the way, it's true that male sperm quality decreases with age. Why is this relevant?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/19 02:57 AM
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Feel free to show me where I have expressed "that type" of thinking, ie pushing for equality if -- and only if -- it benefits me. To be sure, most women think this way but it's pretty unusual among men. Anyway, the number 30 is significant because if a man meets a prospective bride who is 30+, the odds of forming a relationship and having 3 healthy children without a lot of hassle start dropping pretty fast. The same is not true for men. This is a biological fact -- you may not like it but it's …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/19 06:31 PM
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You are making the gynocentric mistake of applying female standards to men when it suits you AND male standards when it suits you. If you are going to require that a man have a steady job and his own place to be a decent prospect, fine. But in that case it's unreasonable to also require that he be under 30 and childless. A 35 year old man is a perfectly reasonable marriage prospect. Also, if he has children but makes enough money to support them along with his future children, there is no proble…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/19 04:31 PM
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This subreddit offers the more extreme examples but the reality is that there are very few modern secular women who are slender, under 30, childless, low n count, and genuinely appreciative of men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/19 07:10 AM
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I doubt that she seriously wants to be a mechanic. More likely she wants to project an image of being a man's woman, so to speak. I doubt that she is actually bi either, probably she claims to be because it's cool and because some men like the idea of dating a girl who also likes girls.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/03/19 05:53 AM
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And "no fuckboys" means that she loves fuckboys. By the way, I hire interns at work and I have noticed that it's extremely common for females to cancel or reschedule at the last minute for questionable reasons. We're talking job interviews here, not dates. It seems that this sort of game-playing is hardwired into the female brain.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 05:01 AM
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By the way, one interesting thing about that car commercial is that the women in the commercial are ugly for the most part. If a commercial aimed at men features a fat ugly woman, it's worth taking note. The advertiser is setting her up as a foil for the product.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:58 AM
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I think that if the woman is not crazy and is not a complete bitch, her looks will normally suffice to attract a decent husband. The bigger problem in my opinion is that for a lot of women, a decent husband is no good. - they need Chad. Actually they need Chad, MD or Chad, Esq.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:52 AM
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Well our society is so gynocentric that we don't tell women the facts that they desperately need to here. -- because it makes them feel bad. In mainstream sources, basically the only time you will hear about the male preference for younger women is in the context of man-bashing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:45 AM
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Well there are people out there who have essentially zero romantic/sexual success their entire lives. Usually it's people who are male; physically unattractive; and have some kind of mental problem like Aspergers or social anxiety. You can call it whining if you want but it's a pretty shitty situation to be in. And it's very different from the situation where you age to the point where your physical attractiveness dramatically declines. That's something we all go through if we are fortunate enou…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:41 AM
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Well there is a big difference between being a 40 year old virgin who has never had a date and being a 40 year old who is past their prime and can no longer get dates with the people one finds attractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:34 AM
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Well the sub is for people who have had essentially zero sexual/romantic success their entire lives. Not for people who are past their prime and can no longer attract anyone they themselves find attractive.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:32 AM
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Yeah when I was in Asia I did meet a few women around age 40 who really did look like they were in their 20s.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:29 AM
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I have met a few people who looked astonishingly young, but it's pretty rare. Especially among women since it's practically a given nowadays that a woman will have her hair colored.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:27 AM
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Yes, it's like people online who claim to have IQs of 150. Such people do exist but it's so extraordinarily rare that people who make the claim are wrong 99% of the time. Besides, a 40 year old woman who appears to be 25-28 will have very little problem getting interest from a lot of men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 02:22 AM
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I think that we men have our own version of the dual mating strategy. The female dual mating strategy to to fuck Chad and then settle down. The male dual mating strategy is to first settle down and then fuck young women. Put another way, I think the male mid life crisis is very much driven by reproductive instincts. It tends to occur when a man is still capable of reproducing but his wife is not.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 01:54 AM
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Something like 95% of women I have met in life are aggressive game players. I think that when a woman says "no games" she means the gamesmanship should ideally be a one way street in her view.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/19 01:25 AM
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Why do they present sarcasm as a positive quality? Do women like men who are sarcastic? Is it a warning? If it's a warning, fine, but then why do they downplay their weight?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/03/19 11:33 AM
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As I read it, there is a difference between "not having a stable marriage" and getting divorced. Because many women never marry. Don't get me wrong - I think that sexual promiscuity is extremely destructive. But if we are shouting numbers from the rooftop we need to be accurate.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 10:21 PM
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From a moral perspective this is spot on. But the economic reality is that women are prized, particularly young women. It's a bit like admission to a trendy but overpriced night club. A total ripoff but if you want to dance you have to pay the piper. To me what's most astonishing is not how little women have to offer besides physical beauty; it's how quickly that beauty fades.
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 10:45 AM
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Mgtow means different things to different people but for me it means (1) not sacrificing yourself for the sake of female validation; (2) not basing your sense of self-worth on what women think of you. Relationships with women are not ruled out but are based on carefully weighing the benefits and risks. In my view, the opposite of mgtow is PUA. The PUA's entire life and sense of self worth is based on obtaining validation from women.
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 10:36 AM
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I don't think feminism hates women any more than the parent of a spoiled child hates the child. Or perhaps a better analogy is that of a lottery winner who has 10 million dollars dumped in his lap, and proceeds to blow it all on hookers and cocaine. Ending up a drug addict with STDs -- much worse off for having won the lottery. A tragedy not motivated by hate but caused by ignorance. Being a woman is exactly like winning the lottery; like having a couple million dollars dropped in your lap as a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 09:06 AM
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For most of these women, their "best" was 15 years and 100 dicks ago.
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 06:56 AM
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Yes, when you think about it in terms of dollars and cents, my wife got an amazingly good deal from our marriage. Which I don't begrudge her, but I do wish that society would show some appreciation for male contribution and sacrifice.
/r/MGTOW10/03/19 06:46 AM
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I would read it a bit differently. My guess is that one of the first men she had a relationship with was a very funny guy and it imprinted on her a bit. Which is part of why the best practice is for people to avoid the idea of having a little fun and then settling down. Because it's easier to have a long term bond with a person if they are one of your first few relationships.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 06:25 AM
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I would guess it's the lack of negative feedback. How often does this woman hear that her standards are unrealistic? How often does she hear that her looks have dramatically declined over the last 15 years? How often does she hear that even 15 years ago when Mr. Tall and Handsome wanted to bang her, he would never have committed? Quite possibly she literally never hears these sorts of things and instead hears the opposite. That she's just as beautiful as ever; that she deserves commitment from t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 06:17 AM
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Yes, whatever it is about her which prevented her from having long term relationships isn't going to change. Whether it was mental illness; super-high standards; extreme need for variety; or something else entirely. My normal feeling is that people --especially women-- should marry young, I thing this is someone who will cause only pain and heartache for some unfortunate dude. The only way she can have a successful marriage is if she were in a Male dominated culture and she had to live totally u…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 05:37 AM
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Do you happen to have a cite for that? Because if that is verifiable, it needs to be shouted from the rooftops.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/03/19 05:27 AM
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Never heard the phrase before but I would guess you are right. It's sort of like a game-player who needs to date straight shooters because if the other person is a game player, then the games won't work all that well.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/03/19 10:30 PM
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Yeah I think it's probably trolling/parody.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/03/19 12:44 PM
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Yeah that picture is a huge magnet for pedophiles. And what's more, she probably knows it. Surely she's gotten a few messages from guys who were pretty obviously mainly interested in the daughters.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/03/19 08:18 AM
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Except what she really means is that she doesn't hold herself back from saying hurtful things; from insulting people if she thinks she can get away with it; from undermining her man in front of others, etc. Put simply, she's a bitch. Probably that's a big part of the reason she's single. Men will put up with quite a lot to get a quick roll in the hay, but we tend to be less forgiving of female bullshit in long term relationships. Even in long term relationships. many men will tolerate sass if th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/03/19 08:14 AM
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There is a legend that eskimos have some huge number of words for "snow." No idea if it's true or not, but it's interesting how many words there are for a difficult woman: harridan, harpy, shrew, bitch, cunt, yenta, battle axe, witch, etc. Not that I think women are inherently more difficult than men , it's just that society puts up with women's bullshit more.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/03/19 07:38 AM
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Without men she would be cold dirty and literally starving to death. So maybe she should start showing some gratitude.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 09:50 PM
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It's actually extremely easy to filter out the guys who want to pump and dump. Just refuse to get intimate before you marry. Problem solved. The reason so many women dont do this is because they WANT to bang Chad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 06:37 PM
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There is actually a lesser know study which confirms the okcupid study. A European researcher developed a computer program which rated people's looks. To get the data to train their neural network, they asked a number of test subjects to look at large numbers of photos to rate people's looks. What they discovered incidentally was that women gave 80-90% of the men negative ratings. This fact is vitally important for men to know. If your girlfriend or wife finds you unattractive, there is a huge r…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 05:55 PM
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Probably there actually is a "shut the fuck up" clause in her contract. And probably she has received a friendly phone call from the studio reminding her about it. But what else can the studio do? If they sue her, then the Left will get medieval on them. I do think her career is likely to fizzle out after this. By the way, isn't this post a bit of a mission creep? Not that I really mind. Waatgm is one facet of the larger problem of runaway gynocentrism.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 02:54 PM
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Yeah, if she had played the "beauty ends" card while she was still young and thin and childless, it would be a lot more believable.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 10:28 AM
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And for not playing games.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/19 10:26 AM
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Yes, if Chad makes friends with a girl first and later makes a move on her, will he be criticized for having ulterior motives? Of course not, the girl will say " It's cute how shy he was" or "he was such a gentleman to wait until we felt comfortable together." Conversely, if an unattractive man skips the whole friendship thing and unambiguously tells the girl that he would like to have a sexual relationship with her when they first meet, he will be condemned for being too forward and aggressive.…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/03/19 01:52 PM
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They respect Chad, at least in private.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/19 02:21 PM
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I am pretty confident that nobody will ever marry this hag.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/19 11:13 AM
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Even if they dont have a racist bone in their body, it would be pretty shameful for a white guy to be out and about with this woman and her 3 mixed race children. He knows that everyone is secretly laughing at him for being such a cuck. Even progressive feminist types would not have a shred of respect for him.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/19 11:09 AM
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You touch on an issue which needs to be discussed more. If a man finds a potential partner unattractive, he will either settle for her or not but he won't hate her for being unattractive. By contrast, most women instinctively hate any man who is unattractive to her if he presents himself as a sexual being. Her subconscious instincts are screaming at her to keep that man out of her vagina especially while she is ovulating and to do the minimum necessary to extract resources from him. Those subcon…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/19 11:05 AM
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Yes, I think you called it. She probably used to turn tricks or make porn movies to feed her drug habit. And if she has an arrest or conviction record (or there are porno films on the internet of her) it means that her future husband will eventually find out ie she can't just pretend it never happened. I agree that relapse is an issue here. But there is another issue which is that most men instinctively don't like the idea of marrying a former sex worker. Men's feelings matter and if we feel bad…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 09:53 PM
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I think you are over complicating things a bit. The fact is that most men have a very strong instinct to seek female validation and approval. That alone is enough to explain why most churches along with most other institutions are succumbing to the cancer of runaway gynocentrism. These institutions evolved in the distant past when people lived on the brink of starvation and foreign invasion. Therefore traditions developed to keep the worst aspects of female nature in check. Cultures which failed…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 09:05 PM
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I guess, but an abortion is not a big red flag for most guys, not compared to the behavior that necessitated the abortion. Besides, a past abortion can be concealed from a husband forever. Anyway, when someone demands that they not be judged, they usually deserve to be judged.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 08:46 PM
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Whatever it is, it must be pretty bad if she needs to lay the groundwork in her profile as an attractive woman in her 20s.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 08:06 PM
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I think it's difficult to fake attraction for long.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 05:55 PM
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I have a strong feeling that when she refers to her "flaws" she is talking about specific and serious red flags and not just the sort of general pluses and minuses that everyone has. The sort of things that have caused good men to walk away after the first date. I am guessing STDs and perhaps an undisclosed child.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 05:45 PM
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Yeah and you might think that if a woman is in this kind of one-sided relationship, she would not fault her guy friend for making a sexual advance towards her. But of course even a mild sexual advance is seen as a terrible thing; a breach of trust; an abuse. And of course the attitude of these women is echoed by that of our gynocentric society. Your average guy is supposed to be an asexual servant of women. A self sacrificing robot with no independent desires or interests.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 11:53 AM
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Yeah I have experienced both genuine attraction and the woman tolerating intimacy because she wants something from me. I too would rather be an incel than be locked into a relationship with the second option. Besides, if you are going to be with a woman who is just tolerating you, it's better to find an escort or a sugar baby. At least that way you are with a woman who is young and thin and hot.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/03/19 01:13 AM
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Thanks. Of course part of the problem is that a lot of guys have never actually experienced authentic physical attraction by a woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 09:56 PM
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What gets me about this is that the actual fake friend here is almost certainly the girl. Whenever I have been in one of these ljbf relationships every time I have asked for a favor she has found an excuse to decline. A real friend is willing to inconvenience himself to help a friend.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 07:48 PM
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Another thing about the post is that it is a partial answer to the Big Question. Sadly, some good men are trapped in these sorts of marriages; vaguely aware that something is very wrong, but perplexed and deceived by the wife's gaslighting. Probably a lot of men who engage in extramarital affairs are simply searching for something their wives can't give them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 12:31 PM
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I think that holding out for a virgin isn't quite the right solution. Your virgin bride will still be exposed to television movies books stories from her girlfriends etc about Chad. It happens all the time that women who marry young decide that "they have missed out on life" or "need to find thenselves" and all of us guys here know what that means. At the same time, it's possible for a woman who is a non virgin to be excited by her husband although admittedly the chances drop in proportion to he…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 10:42 AM
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Agree 100%. As a man, it's natural to assume that if the girl is willing to fuck you, then she's into you sexually. The post is also revealing about Male nature. There is a stereotype that men are just cold hearted fucking machines only looking for a wet hole to put our dicks. But in reality most guys want a woman who is attracted to us.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 10:33 AM
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Yes thanks a lot for letting this be posted. This is just so revealing of female nature and men need to be aware of it. Something like this happened with my neighbor. His wife had first married a fitness instructor and divorced him when he cheated on her. Then she married my neighbor who is a wealthy doctor; she admitted to a mutual friend that she had married for money. A few years later, it comes out that my neighbor had started having an affair. Everyone in the neighborhood thought he was a j…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 10:29 AM
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Almost certainly when they had this talk, she made up some BS story about "not feeling sexy due to the baby" or "I am not a very sexual person" or whatever. I feel really terrible for the husband because he is in a bad situation that he probably doesn't even understand.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 10:19 AM
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I see it pretty regularly that the woman wants to defer intimacy because she has "trust issues" or has been "hurt in the past" but I am not buying it. I am pretty sure that even today if Chad snapped his fingers she'd drop her panties so fast your head would spin around.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 10:05 AM
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I agree . . There are plenty of men who will fuck literally anything that appears to be a fertile woman if there won't be much effort or commitment involved.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/19 10:00 AM
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I would guess she's bi because it's cool. To be sure, I believe that she's into only the most desirable men, but that's because she's a normal hypergamous woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/19 09:56 AM
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Yeah and what's funny is that men's preferences in this area are a lot stronger than they realize. Most men are smart enough not to publicize their preference because it invites condemnation and deception. If I were looking for a ltr, any hint of a slutty past would get the girl nexted and I wouldn't explain why. If she's travelled extensively; if she has "rules" or "policies" for dating; if she drinks heavily and gets frisky when she's drunk; if she has a tinder account; etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 04:00 PM
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Yeah, it's true that women are instinctively attracted to money but the attraction is qualitatively different from their attraction to alpha qualities.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 03:53 PM
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"Misogynist" = anyone who openly believes that (1) women sometimes behave destructively or (2) there exist qualities where men are innately superior to women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 12:19 PM
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I am pretty sure this is fake based on the fact that she's accepting some of the responsibility for her predicament.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/02/19 07:57 AM
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It's hard to see how paying a girl for a massage with a happy ending is "monstrous." Obviously it's different if she is a minor. But otherwise, you can bet that Kraft gave very generous tips and all the girls were eager to have him as a customer.
/r/MGTOW25/02/19 12:39 AM
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It's pretty astonishing that the entire article makes zero mention of women's well known tendency to insist on dating men more financially successful than them. Literally no responsibility at all for this problem is put on women - men are 100% to blame. And as usual men's feelings and desires are delegitimized. Suppose it's true that men prefer women who are not career oriented? Why is that so terrible? Certainly you won't see any criticism of women for preferring men who are tall, financially s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/02/19 07:49 PM
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If you take her profile at face value, then yeah. But what happens when you go out to dinner with her and she is already forking over $50 for a sitter? Will she insist on splitting the check on top of that? Or will she expect you to pay for the whole meal? The fact is that women, especially single moms, are utterly dependent on men in hundreds of subtle and not so subtle ways. Notwithstanding their protestations to the contrary.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/02/19 06:58 PM
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Yeah the odds that she is truly independent are pretty low. In all my years I have met only a small handful of women who are emotionally, physically, and intellectually capable of facing life's problems head on without help or support from a man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/02/19 06:27 PM
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This is obviously fake. A real woman would have claimed that Jeff raped her or ar least plied her with alcohol. Women don't accept responsibility for their choices. Never have never will.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/02/19 10:45 AM
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