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Inner Game Top_Client9752/r/seduction14/10/22 05:21 AM
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Hi OP, You sound a bit like my 24 year old self. Threw all my time and effort into study & career, and social life took third place. You're definitely right about most young people seeking fun. It's one of the very few times in your life that you can afford to prioritise fun, and in retrospect I wish I'd given it a bit more priority in my twenties. Those "fun" connections teach us about relationships and social skills, and help us to work out from experience rather than theory the things that ar…
/r/seduction16/10/22 09:37 PM
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You’re so right! It’s too bad so many guys don’t understand that they need to build this mindset first instead of seeking validation from women they don’t even know. I also think guys should top trying to fuck women who they don’t even like just to scratch that itch…
/r/seduction14/10/22 09:02 PM
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Just click “let me read it first”. No subscription needed.
/r/seduction14/10/22 09:06 AM
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Aha! The sarcasm didn't translate via text. ;-)
/r/seduction14/10/22 06:34 AM
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Hi OP, It depends what you're looking for. All the PUA stuff can work for a one night stand, but you'll have to look a bit deeper to find guidance on building authentic attraction. I studied Neil Strauss, Mystery Method, David D'Angelo, Ross Jeffries etc etc. - i.e the OG PUA coaches back in the day. Your best bet is to read/watch everything you can and work out what feels the most authentic to you. Keep in mind that Strauss has even admitted that his PUA experience was really all about a bunch …
/r/seduction14/10/22 06:16 AM
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i honestly can't believe a severely socially anxious virgin's first task is to steam up to women and say corny bullshit written by an internet man with a legitimate hope to have sex with her. Not sure how you link that comment to my post. There is absolutely nothing in my post about approaching women and using pickup lines in the hope of getting laid. In fact, it's almost the opposite: develop social muscle by learning to be sociable with everyone, not just people you want something from.
/r/seduction14/10/22 05:59 AM
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Hi OP, I know the feeling. It sounds like you need to build your confidence so that you believe in yourself a bit more. If you considered yourself as the prize, it wouldn't matter if other guys were talking to these women. Unless, of course, you're not bringing sexual attraction to the table through flirting when you engage with women you find attractive. I'd suggest brushing up on how to escalate, and working on your confidence (detailed how-to guides in the links). I can almost guarantee that …
/r/seduction04/10/22 02:02 AM
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Hey OP, You can still "hold space" for someone without falling into the trap of Nice Guy Syndrome. In fact, the ability to hold space and not be affected by a woman's emotional issues is quite deeply masculine. What I mean by "holding space" is being consciously present in the conversation and listening to them without offering solutions or getting drawn into the emotional vortex. You can acknowledge their situation simply by saying things like "that sounds tough", or applying active listening t…
/r/seduction04/10/22 01:08 AM
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I lack subtle games that you usually develop when you're around 16-19. That I feel stems from me having studied in an all boys school. I get where you're coming from (I was in the same boat), but what makes you think everyone else learns these things in their teens? Very few men know anything about subtlety! I've worked with men in their 30s & 40s who went to co-ed schools, were surrounded by sisters etc, and still had no idea how seduction works. I bend over backwards for women sometimes and tr…
/r/seduction29/09/22 08:22 AM
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Hey OP, I feel lonely due to the circumstances and a ltr would make it so much better for me That, my friend is one giant red flag that will kill your prospects of a successful LTR. (Speaking from brutal experience - spent 4 years at uni without any dating success, then stumbled unsuccessfully through short-lived romances until I fell into an LTR in my 20s-30s that lasted a couple of years before I realised that I'd settled for less than I wanted.) Whilst a romantic relationship does provide som…
/r/seduction29/09/22 01:58 AM
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Hi OP, Reading between the lines, you seem to be more the authentic relationship kind of guy rather than a PUA/player. If touch doesn’t come naturally to you, I recommend you start practising touching everyone casually during conversation so you normalise the behaviour. Nothing creepy, just a light touch to the outside of the upper arm to emphasise a point, or as part of a greeting, compliment, or farewell. I’ve spelled out the whole ritual of escalation here - you might find it helpful to have …
/r/seduction27/09/22 11:42 AM
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OP, women get bored of being asked boring questions by boring men. What is boring to most women? Typical interview questions, likely followed by a bunch more pre-memorised interview questions. Many in this thread are suggesting making assumptions / cold reads because they see it as some kind of power move. It works with some women, but others (more socially experienced perhaps?) often consider it arrogant or cocky. If you are approaching with the intent of finding a relationship, you need to act…
/r/seduction24/09/22 09:10 PM
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Start by starting conversations with everyone you cross paths with throughout your day. Men and women alike, with no agenda other than acknowledging another human and passing a few moments together. Speaking to men as well makes you appear more sociable and less predatory. The conversations don’t need to be long. Maybe a compliment about their style , and a simple question about how their day is going, or what the highlight of their week is. If you need tips on how to keep the conversation flowi…
/r/seduction23/09/22 11:50 AM
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You should be able to find this on the apps. Just be up front about what you’re after. The trick with the apps is to have a really slick profile with professional quality photos. Find someone who specialises in Tinder profile for men and enlist their help. It’s a science! In terms of meeting women in real life: attend meet ups, join social clubs, communities, attend workshops etc that are likely to attract people with the values you seek. Sex-positive communities like Tantra workshops and the li…
/r/seduction20/09/22 12:44 PM
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OP, the fact that you are posting multiple threads on the Internet telling random strangers how much of a victim you are kind of suggests that you either need qualified professional help or some tough love. I’m not a psychologist, so I can only offer the latter. Despite the words they may use, women are treating you this way because of the way you behave and the energy you project, not because you are unable to get a date. I.e. they treat you with contempt because you haven’t demonstrated that y…
/r/seduction16/09/22 01:17 PM
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You may not be able to make someone who is repulsed by you feel attraction, but you can certainly develop attractive character qualities that attract that kind of person. It just takes time and effort. The problem so many men suffer is that we don't understand how attraction works, how to engineer our lives to maximise the likelihood of meeting the type of people we find attractive, and the types of qualities those women find attractive. I've seen plenty of men go from mediocrity to complete mas…
/r/seduction16/09/22 06:39 AM
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OP, you're right that people have prejudices, and if they are prejudiced against men of your ethnicity, physical build, hair colour, whatever, then you don't want to attract them in the first place. The best approach for any man who isn't naturally gifted with the appearance of Adonis and the charm of Casanova is to invest the time and effort into developing attractive qualities. Once you achieve that, you will: Have a natural energy about you that people are drawn to - men will respect if not a…
/r/seduction16/09/22 06:33 AM
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Having male friends is only part of the picture, but an essential foundation. Without it, you risk displaying needy behaviour towards women (undermining your chances of attracting someone you like) , and once you're in a relationship you're likely to slip into codependency and subsequent misery. Your stated problem is that you are frustrated about being alone with no-one to talk to. Don't expect success with women until you fix that. The harsh truth is that frustration and loneliness tends to ma…
/r/seduction16/09/22 05:11 AM
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If the way you interact with women is “an act”, you’ve probably fallen into the trap of thinking PUA skills make you attractive. Having authentic qualities such as confidence, strong sense of self-worth justified by meaningful achievement, and conversation skills does make you attractive. Nothing to do with macho/alpha behaviour - emotionally mature women see through that BS in an instant. A man who truly knows his power has no need to flaunt it. Timid, submissive men with low self esteem more o…
/r/seduction14/09/22 09:42 PM
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It all goes hand in hand to create a virtuous cycle. Confidence helps build social competence, social competence reinforces confidence, conversation skills boost both, etc. In isolation, each topic only gets you so far, and then you kind of fall off a cliff. E.g. if you focus exclusively on confidence, but don't learn conversation skills, you'll feel good up until the point you engage in conversation and find yourself lost for words, and that undermines your confidence and self-esteem again. (Th…
/r/seduction13/09/22 05:27 AM
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Hi OP, this is like reading a diary entry by my 20-something year old self. :-) The fact that you understand how you arrived at your current situation and you are aware of your issues is an extremely good sign. The next step is to put in the time and effort to forge the character of the man you aspire to be, and build the lifestyle that goes with it. Expectations of masculinity: feel free to take time to yourself if you're upset after a rough day, but only once you've met your immediate obligati…
/r/seduction13/09/22 12:34 AM
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Thank you. If there are any additional topics you'd like me to cover, please let me know.
/r/seduction12/09/22 11:44 PM
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These are all good tips so far. My formula: * Understand and adopt confident body language * Understand and adopt confident vocal tone and cadence * Dress in a simple style that you know makes you look good * Seek things that scare you, overcome your fears * Practise a martial art to learn how to handle yourself physically. * Master your attitude towards sex (I.e. eliminate sexual shame, build confidence by understanding women’s sexual desires) I’ve written a whole “how to” series over here if y…
/r/seduction12/09/22 09:12 PM
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OP, you seem to be in such despair that you're reluctant to follow even the best advice offered in this thread. Maybe you just want to wallow in your anger and misery - that's up to you. But if you genuinely want advice on how to improve your situation: Build your confidence. You have some already, but build more. Build your social competence. Social status is less important than the ability to carry yourself properly and engage smoothly in conversation with anybody who crosses your path. Build …
/r/seduction07/09/22 09:03 AM
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Agreed. But that's a very vague concept when you're struggling with perceived self-failure. A bloke needs some actionable guidance to lead him to self-love.
/r/seduction07/09/22 08:54 AM
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Sometimes when you fixate on a perceived problem you reach an impasse. It becomes necessary to step away and shift your focus for a while and then come back to it. If we can interpret your statement literally, it suggests you have no close male friends. Expecting a woman to become your sole source of companionship / company / emotional support is a recipe for relationship failure. Women will sense it as neediness and will run a mile. Forget about chasing women for a while. Whatever free time you…
/r/seduction06/09/22 04:22 AM
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OP, don’t be so hard on yourself. There are guys much older than you with successful careers, in good shape, who are also in the same boat. How are you supposed to learn this stuff? We don’t learn it at school, and those with natural abilities (perhaps your brother) are seldom capable of spelling it out to those of us who need help. Here’s the deal though: being old enough to shave doesn’t automatically make you a man in the eyes of women. You need to build your confidence and cultivate your sen…
/r/seduction04/09/22 11:50 AM
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Since this is /seduction, am I correct to assume your objective here is to improve your ability to charm people through conversation and witty banter? I consider this to be the basis of flirting and requires a mix of listening skills and conversation techniques combined with a sense of playfulness. "Conversation Cassanova" provides some good guidance along these lines. (Don't remember the author's name off the top of my head, but the ebook is available for Kindle.) I'm about to publish a "how to…
/r/seduction01/09/22 11:22 PM
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If you're open to kink (especially dominance, rope bondage etc) you'll find there are plenty of women 20-something and upwards who are attracted mature age men and want to play. Just be sure to manage the inevitable emotional attachments that will form by communicating early and often, and gracefully end things before they lead to emotional harm. E.g. someone our age from my local scene has a rule of not playing with the same person more than 7 times avoid attachments. If you want any more tips …
/r/seduction01/09/22 06:37 AM
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If you're keen on dating younger, give some thought to the kink scene. In my experience it's the most likely place to find young women eager to explore with older men, but without the expectations of long term relationships etc.
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:33 AM
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Welcome to the scene, my friend! In short, the answer is a resounding "no, it's not too late!" - I only arrived a few years ahead of you, and let me tell you there is an abundance of opportunity for us older guys to have fun with women of all ages. A couple of tips, if I may: Most of the PUA techniques are effective in getting women's attention. However, women who know their way around the bars and clubs can spot PUA techniques a mile away, and many take a dim view of it. Your challenge will be …
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:31 AM
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Let's start by addressing that mindset of yours... You met a girl at a club, who kept up the conversation afterwards, and who now wants to see you again. She is definitely interested in you. Whether or not she is ready to become intimate with you is the question. You now have the responsibility to show up as the same guy (i.e same energy) she met at the club, and gracefully continue to build rapport and attraction. If she feels the same way, she will give you plenty of signals - e.g. closing the…
/r/seduction01/09/22 05:09 AM
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The funny thing about material success combined with dating later in life is that it creates the added challenge of weeding out gold-diggers. I wanted a partner who was attracted solely to my character, not my finances. After recalibrating my approach I kept to a vague description of my career ("I work in IT"), avoided any disclosure of the trappings of material success that I enjoy, and avoided inviting dates to my apartment for the first couple of dates. The way I present myself and carry a co…
/r/seduction31/08/22 04:50 AM
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My friend you have received some really valuable advice in this discussion, but you have a journey ahead of you that will take time, patience and perseverance. It wasn’t until I was in my forties that this all clicked into place for me, and I’ve worked with dozens of other men in the same boat. You have the benefit of starting early (we all fumbled our way through clumsy relationships before falling back into the single scene in mid-life). I’m sharing an entire series of “how to develop attracti…
/r/seduction30/08/22 08:40 PM
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What do you hope to achieve from this post? Do you expect sympathy? Maybe false promises that you can carry on like this and expect life to magically get better? What you need to hear is that you have the attitude of an entitled, spoiled child, and no woman will every find that attractive. You say you only rant like this online. It's not the ranting that's the major problem, but the fact that you feel all this negativity and misdirect it towards other people who bear no responsibility for your p…
/r/seduction30/08/22 11:34 AM
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Fair enough. At least you're clear on where you stand, and you're right, you shouldn't invest huge amounts of effort just for the sake of sex. You're better off just paying a hooker if it comes down to it. In your case I'd suggest being very up front with the fact that you just want casual sex (e.g. on OLD profiles, and even in conversation), and just put in enough work to eliminate the reasons for women who also just want casual sex to reject you as a candidate. It does limit your options to wo…
/r/seduction28/08/22 11:55 PM
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To be fair i rather not be toxic, but man this is much harder than it looks. If you're serious about improving, set aside your short term craving for sex and focus on developing authentically attractive character traits. It's true that all other things being equal, a physically attractive man will have more success with women. So the onus is on you to make sure all other things are stacked in your favour! The way you carry yourself, your grooming and styling (need not be fancy, just simple and e…
/r/seduction28/08/22 10:01 PM
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I’m biased since I’m the author, but I’m in the process of publishing all the insights I learned going from PUA to more authentic character development and learning to connect with women in a meaningful way. Jump on while it’s still free. I’ll also be uploading an entire course on sexual confidence and communication, and an intro to kink & BDSM that I run for men who are looking to lift their game in the bedroom. https://bedbarsbeyond.substack.com/ Books and videos are good, but nothing beats ha…
/r/seduction28/08/22 11:32 AM
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Sounds like you need to build confidence and assertiveness. (Sounds easy, right? Too bad it’s hard work, but it pays off in all aspects of life). I’m in the process of uploading a series of “how to” articles on this here. I’ve worked with a bunch of men who all went from chasing to being chased, and the transformation was all down to building authentic character traits that women find attractive, and orienting their lifestyles to come in contact with the type of women they find attractive. OLD w…
/r/seduction28/08/22 11:20 AM
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You're sounding pretty jaded there, buddy. I think if you look a little more deeply, very few women with simps for partners enjoy emotional and sexual fulfilment. There are still plenty of women who understand and accept their primal attraction to masculinity, and want nothing to do with men who behave as you describe. Treating a woman the way you describe is a surefire recipe for killing attraction and creating resentment on both sides. I agree with many of the commenters about the role of medi…
/r/MensRights28/08/22 10:11 AM
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Such an underrated comment, but it's the absolute truth! Party tricks will only get you so far, but you need to invest in yourself for sustainable results with quality women. As a an older bloke who stumbled down the PUA path before discovering what VNF recommends, I can attest that VNF's advice takes some effort, but it improves your life in so many other ways. OP, the instructions for achieving this are too lengthy for a comment thread, but to point you in the right direction, focus on buildin…
/r/seduction27/08/22 02:06 AM
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I think it may help to qualify that comment in terms of objectives. Are you looking for one night stands with physically attractive women, or to build lasting relationships with women you actually value beyond their appearance? The odds of cold approaches of random strangers are not in favour of the latter outcome. On the other hand, actively involving yourself in communities (IRL) that attract women who share your values and measure up to your idea of quality gives you much better chances of co…
/r/seduction25/08/22 08:31 AM
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So true! Old timer here (i.e. I learned the game from the Mystery Method manuscripts, David D'Angelo, Ross Jefferies etc when they were all the rage). Remember Mystery's top had and welding goggles??? Being weird doesn't make it bad. Weird is fine if you are authentically eccentric. If you're not, then serious peacocking just creates incongruity that will make you come across as a fraud - at least to any girl who is sober enough to still have any sense. If you're looking for something more lasti…
/r/seduction24/08/22 12:38 PM
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