TreadmillTraveller Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
21	When you subscribed to the red pill, did you hate women, or were you merely skeptical of them and their motives? [Gynoskepsis vs. misogyny: an important distinction in analysing red pill and manosphere men]		TreadmillTraveller	/r/ExRedPill	21/05/23 02:07 PM

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1	Men are emotional. No one is saying men come out of the womb without emotions. All the blue pills and feminists keep thinking we are saying men have no emotions "Not to nit pick" -- your whole comment is a nitpick. Pragmatics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/23 01:56 AM
2	Can we finally admit that men who find women unattractive, that they are openly mean to them, or simply don't think they exist? This isn't an "actually" response. It is not a counter argument to mine. Crime in the UK is up. Crime in El Salvador is down. That doesn't imply that crime in the UK is higher than crime in El Salvador. In the case of sex and crime: in the USA, it is up all-around, so all people, men and women, are committing more crimes which means there are more victims. So it is up for women, it is also up for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 01:42 PM
1	I really doubt the "male loneliness epidemic" is such a big deal I appreciate your humor with this exaggeration. Well done.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 04:22 AM
2	I really doubt the "male loneliness epidemic" is such a big deal Expand on this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 04:19 AM
1	Can we finally admit that men who find women unattractive, that they are openly mean to them, or simply don't think they exist? Men can you be truthfully honest about how you feel towards women who are ugly? I am constantly bullied and told how ugly I am in community's and let's not get started on the racism. Fine you don't find me attractive,.why are looks brought up in the midst chill moments? How constant is constantly? It is true that I behave differently towards women who I find attractive than towards other people. But this does not imply that I mistreat women who are unattractive. I am curious about your stories h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 04:01 AM
19	Can we finally admit that men who find women unattractive, that they are openly mean to them, or simply don't think they exist? One of the most pervasive myths in our society is that men are somehow less vulnerable to violence than women. This is simply not true. According to the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, men are far more likely to be victims of homicide, robbery, and aggravated assault (the three most severe violent crimes) than women. When you read or watch the news about a violent crime, such as a random shooting or a stabbing, how often is the victim a woman? The answer is very rarely. Men are more viole…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 03:52 AM
0	When you subscribed to the red pill, did you hate women, or were you merely skeptical of them and their motives? [Gynoskepsis vs. misogyny: an important distinction in analysing red pill and manosphere men] Exactly. This is what I mean by gynoskepticism from the manosphere. Labeling this as “hating women” is misleading and misleading hinders solving the problem. You can’t fix a car if you think the engine is broken when in reality it’s the battery. They have a very skewed perception of women, but that is not hate, that is incorrect perceptions.	/r/ExRedPill	22/05/23 01:10 AM
-2	When you subscribed to the red pill, did you hate women, or were you merely skeptical of them and their motives? [Gynoskepsis vs. misogyny: an important distinction in analysing red pill and manosphere men] I don’t understand your objection. My point is that we should use more precise and less charged terms when talking to redpillers. Redpillers have a specific definition of misogyny: someone who harbors a deep hatred of women. Feminists have a much broader definition. But we have to consider how our words will be received: even if we only mean “you are mistaken about women’s psychology” when we say misogyny, a redpiller will not hear it that way. They will hear it as an attack on their character a…	/r/ExRedPill	22/05/23 01:05 AM
-1	When you subscribed to the red pill, did you hate women, or were you merely skeptical of them and their motives? [Gynoskepsis vs. misogyny: an important distinction in analysing red pill and manosphere men] I have spent a lot of time reading both redpill and anti-redpill forums. And one of the things that struck me is how often the word misogyny is talked about by both sides, but with very different meanings. For anti-redpillers, misogyny is a broad term that encompasses any false or negative generalization about women’s psychology or behavior. For redpillers, misogyny is a narrow term that denotes a visceral and irrational hatred of women. And this creates a lot of confusion and hostility in the c…	/r/ExRedPill	22/05/23 01:01 AM
-3	When you subscribed to the red pill, did you hate women, or were you merely skeptical of them and their motives? [Gynoskepsis vs. misogyny: an important distinction in analysing red pill and manosphere men] Whether you agree or disagree with the distinction is different from whether it has or doesn't have utility. I will expand on this. One of the common obstacles to having a productive dialogue with people with different beliefs is that they use a different lexicon than their critics. For instance, when a feminist accuses a redpiller of misogyny, she may mean that he holds a false view of women’s nature and desires. But to a redpiller, misogyny implies a deep and irrational hatred of women, which …	/r/ExRedPill	22/05/23 12:54 AM
1	When you subscribed to the red pill, did you hate women, or were you merely skeptical of them and their motives? [Gynoskepsis vs. misogyny: an important distinction in analysing red pill and manosphere men] You don’t have to apologize. The beauty of discussion is that we get to explore and examine different ideas. I think it’s important to make a distinction here, because it has implications for how we understand and communicate with these men who follow the red pill ideology. The way I see it, they are not simply women haters or misogynists. Many interpret these terms to mean something like that they have a visceral and irrational hatred of women. But that’s not really the case for most red pill m…	/r/ExRedPill	22/05/23 12:37 AM
–	In the US women are physically more resilient than men, so why are they seen as more frail? And the majority of construction is done with machinery. Technically, yes. But the majority of construction workers are manual laborers performing the tasks that require human intervention. All the machinery means is that instead of 100 people on the job site, there are 20... but most of them are still doing grunt work. Women are capable of working in construction, but they tend to abstain from it. Indeed, most men also lack the inclination to work in construction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 07:49 PM
–	In the US women are physically more resilient than men, so why are they seen as more frail? Since physical strength is no longer needed for protection or hunting, this would make women biologically stronger than men in current society. So why are women still seen as frail? But it is needed. Can we agree that police officers and construction workers are resilient? These are fields that men overwhelmingly dominate, because they possess greater physical robustness, and they both exist for protection (buildings, removing dangerous people from the public). At any rate, you're just conflatin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 07:40 PM
1	Why can lots of women not accept that a guy isn't into them? I’m wondering if you meant to reply to someone else. I don’t see the connection between your comment and mine. Could you please clarify what you were trying to say?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 02:43 AM
2	Why can lots of women not accept that a guy isn't into them? This has never occurred to me and I have declined the advances of several women in my life. Are you certain you are not generalizing from a single anomalous experience to all your encounters?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 02:23 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread What is the point of trying to dissuade someone from being engaged? We need a diversity of "cares" in our society, because that is what enables it to function and evolve.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:22 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread There are some cases of that happening, but I have not observed an increase in frequency lately.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:19 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Come on, man, that’s bullshit and you know it. But you’re too stuck in your own bubble to see the truth… you skimmed a few articles or reddit posts and now you think you know everything about asexuality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:18 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread UConn has been dominating every game by a significant margin and they are going to defeat San Diego… sadly… it will most likely not be a competitive game	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:15 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread But Donald Trump is very good looking. He’s the best looking. Nobody looks better than him. He’s got great hair, great skin, great teeth. He’s very handsome. Everybody says so. The women love him. The men want to be him. He’s a very attractive person. He’s a 10 out of 10. He’s a perfect 10. He’s very good looking. /sarcasm	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:12 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread The world is full of shades of gray, and we lose sight of the truth when we only see in black and white. My point? Who knows why she is single. There’s a million reasons why… so I have no opinion. Maybe she’s too picky, maybe she’s too busy, maybe she’s too independent, maybe she’s too crazy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:10 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread You sound like a grumpy old fart who hates everything new and fun. :D	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:08 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread This dude is like the Rain Man of math. It’s insane. I don’t know how he does it. He must have some kind of superpower or something. He’s amazing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:06 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Indeed, that would require a tremendous amount of courage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:04 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread I find this obsession with comparing the struggles of being a man or a woman to be utterly pointless and irrational. There is no objective way to answer this question, because we can never have access to both perspectives at the same time. Transgender people exist but their experience is not the same as that of cisgender people, since we're all still influenced by our previous experiences, expectations, and social conditioning. This is not a competition. Why can't we just support each other for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 03:02 AM
1	Andrew Tate was right, he shouldn't let his women drive his car. Andrew Tate taught us more without saying anything Andrew Tate is a puddle, not a lake. As shallow as a teaspoon of water. He has a very distorted and narcissistic view of what it means to be a man. He thinks that whatever he likes or dislikes is the ultimate standard of masculinity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 02:57 AM
1	Andrew Tate was right, he shouldn't let his women drive his car. Andrew Tate taught us more without saying anything There is a fundamental difference between how weak (Tate) and strong people approach romantic relationships. Weak people are insecure and fearful. They seek partners who are submissive and compliant. They want to dominate and manipulate them. They view love as a zero-sum game, where one person’s gain is another’s loss. They are not interested in mutual respect, understanding, or growth. Strong people are confident and courageous. They seek partners who are independent and assertive. They want to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 02:53 AM
1	What type of clothing do you prefer on women? There is no simple answer to the question of what kind of clothing I prefer on a woman. The appropriate attire depends on the situation and the mood we are trying to create. Sometimes, I enjoy the comfort and intimacy of seeing her in loose-fitting garments that suggest relaxation and coziness. Other times, I appreciate the charm and elegance of a floral dress that evokes a sense of freshness and beauty. And of course, there are occasions when nothing is more enticing than a tight white shirt th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/23 02:45 AM