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A fuckboy is a guy who's just out for sex and is disrespectful towards women about it. The male slut who slut shames girls. The creepy dude who just wants sex and will lie through his teeth about himself, his intentions, and anything else to get it. The shitty manchild who takes rejection badly. It is not about his desire for sex and all about the amount of respect he treats others with and his apparent lack of use for women besides as real dolls. You do not have to get laid at all to be a fuckb…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:56 PM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:54 PM
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Less to do with him and more with her. I too have been stalked when broke, actual crazy runs by different rules. This specific woman who was on a millionaire dating site though, I suspect, has specific materialism issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:53 PM
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This is why I consider average people to be completely undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:50 PM
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I love when someone comes in trying to make an argument that emotional manipulation and dishonesty a la PUA is the same as flirting, communication, and attraction. Women don't need to be manipulated for things to progress, men who want to fuck women who don't really want to fuck them need manipulation to try to "score" with girls. What you and everyone who isn't super successful with PUA doesn't really seem to understand is that PUA doesn't attract women or manipulate them as well as you think. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:49 PM
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Flat out untrue. Men who aren't toxic are wanted plenty. Lots of men who are masculine can't separate their masculinity from toxicity (a key theme in your article) and just like the men the article writes about you simply do not understand that masculinity does not have to come default with disrespect towards your partner. Ask any masculine gay top. Also the article's OP herself misconstrues being attracted to dominance as being attracted to masculinity because so many men have that fucked up th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:37 PM
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It is a warrant signed by a judge, there is no issue of unreasonable search and seizure. Now, you cannot be forced to cooperate, but legally a judge can order blood taken against your will, meaning that this does not violate the self incrimination clause. It is a violation of bodily autonomy. So is imprisonment, if you want to talk about complete legal bodily autonomy I have some funny things to tell you about basically all of our criminal law.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:34 PM
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I'd rather kill capitalism worldwide tbh. Though I would HAPPILY move to one of the many western countries who are saner than the US if I had the money. France, Germany, Canada, and Sweden are on the top of the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:26 PM
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The article is a datapoint not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:24 PM
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So you're blind. You're ignoring all the anti woman legislation, you're ignoring basically every fact and statistic feminists put forward no matter how studied (because there's alot) about how women get treated. "I don't believe the problem is as bad as you do" ok but my "belief" is not a belief it is testimony. Yours is the pure belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:24 PM
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Ok, first, no. Flirting as an action exists in context and it is the context that arouses a woman (or man) generally. Flirting is seen as like an action that generates a response and that's horse shit. Flirting is communication same as anything else and if the person you are communicating with isn't into you, they aren't into you. Now, flirting like many forms of communication can be used to communicate things that will arouse a woman. If she already likes you, communicating that you are also at…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:15 PM
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Low fertility is an average white male problem handicapped by being unable to see the privilege readily on display for everyone not them. Fewer women want to fuck average white dudes every year lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:48 PM
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My mom fell in love with a malignant narcissist from a broke family and is not in my children's lives because she won't divorce him so awalt is so far and away not reflective of my mothers life when I first encountered it I couldn't process it. She's the one who came from money and she never left her (and my) abuser. She married down because she fell in love with his charisma and he's not even alpha. He's a scared little beta bitch who stopped hitting me when I hit my last growth spurt and passe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:44 PM
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Someone else said for every girl who dates an asshole there's a guy who dates a psychotic bitch. We separate at evolutionary psychology but I absolutely agree with the sentiment that young people haven't got a fucking clue what's good for them and often pattern their dating choices after unhealthy ideals (like what media shows) and don't understand that they themselves aren't a cookie cutter who has the same desires for partners as everyone else. That said... I guess I really just cannot put mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:40 PM
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Wow. Less naive/more worldly are negative qualities in women. That comes unsurprisingly close to pedophilia. Same predatory mindset targeted at as close to the legal side of the age line as possible. P.S. The only real reason not to date women in their 30s is that if you want to settle down with someone all the best ones for long term relationships tend to be in one by that age and the dating pool consisting of "Who's currently single or divorced" is really, really inconsistent. Women under 30 a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:16 PM
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I can't think of a thing men tell women that would affect how low the average guy's standards really are or put most women below that ground scraping line. Though "If she's fucked a bunch of guys she's used up" comes really, really close.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:05 PM
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There is no such thing as a natural. There are only people with more innate talent for communication but 90% of communication is learned. I can be charming as hell, most of it was learned The difference between naturally glib people and not is usually a ton of early experience and social exploration on the part of the "natural"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:03 PM
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Nice guys are a combination of traditional masculinity teaching boys that they are supposed to "win" a woman and feminism telling guys they aren't allowed to be creepy, overly forward, or handsy trying to do it. Nice guys are the fallacy that a woman's love comes from what you do for her which is a traditional idea. They see a woman they like and they go throw time, attention, perhaps money at her. They attempt to "win her" and in the process remove all concepts of personal choice, preference, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:00 PM
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Boys lose control when attractive women come along. Boys unused to strong emotions and actual mature emotional control. When I see an attractive woman I look for an opportunity for non hostile eye contact and gauge interest. If she keeps the eye contact I go talk to her. If she doesn't, I go about my day and glance back at her ass if I get a chance to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:56 PM
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My preference for girls who don't use much makeup is about 90% "Takes less than half an hour to wake up, get ready, and leave the house" and 10% "Too much makeup is just not attractive your skin shouldn't look like drywall wtf"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:53 PM
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I don't feel guilty, but then I'm as blue as blue gets and distinctly not part of the problem. I see reliance on "the natural order of things" as nothing more than a signifier of weakness. Someone who is most comfortable with a natural advantage over others is someone afraid of competition and losing. And usually someone who's methodology works for them and not others and who needs an irrational justification like "The natural order" to excuse self absorbed actions as normal and not what the are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:47 PM
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No one should have that much money. Bezos didn't contribute enough to the economy to earn that, he simply owned the company that did. I do not consider owning capital nor risking it to be economic contributions worthy of note and most of the work done to create and maintain Amazon has been done by the people Bezos severely underpays. Profit is the unpaid labor of the working class and Bezos is in my mind nothing more than a thief. Having his wife steal half his shit after that is just hilarious …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:44 PM
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Wow ok. So not inferior but deemed inferior and you just cited your own personal perspective (which I do not fully agree with) which is irrelevant because you have to ignore all of the men who then DO think women are inferior and treat them as such. If you think money has nothing to do with gender dynamics you must be posting from a world that's left currency behind. How's Star Trek and can I come?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:38 PM
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I posted it before the purge was over i thought. Feel free to remove it idc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:30 PM
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You don't have to produce a phenotype from one image when you image over time and watch brains differentiate through exposure and hormone influenced growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:27 PM
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Most of the arguments people make including AWALT are the polar opposite of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:25 PM
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I never said women are less violent because of socialization it is proven that violence in men has a ton to do with our hormonal systems and testosterone. That said, violence is not a need the vast majority of people have and violence itself arises out of conflict and an inability to handle it any other way which itself VERY much has to do with socialization. So you're part right and part wrong on that one. Second, you do not need to be inferior to be oppressed that thought itself is stupid. Bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:25 PM
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Not until the brain is acted upon by the environment and hormonal systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:13 PM
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The amount of biotruths Red Pill ideology tends to depend upon to make sweeping generalizations and the fact that there is no female brain to fall back on to say that they exist in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:12 PM
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Men are actually the more physically and psychologically reactive gender so far as hormones go. The idea of women and "hormonal swings" is basically just gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:11 PM
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I love that you think most people are fucking a new person every other week.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:10 PM
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They do, but how hormones affect an individual brain is going to vary by individuality and not by "female brain vs male brain" response. It moves the discussion away from red pill dichotomies and towards a more greyscale picture of society. There are too many individual shades to effectively generalize across a gender, and generalizing across genders is Red Pill's stock in trade. It's how Red Pill conceptualizes the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:16 AM
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But society encourages those roles. Men are encouraged to be both violent and analytical. Men are raised for those things. Skews the numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:12 AM
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I have never seen an evolutionary psychology argument that doesn't rely upon gender roles being natural to try to have a point. It is justifying behavior after the fact based on traditionalism and a desire to maintain the status quo. I don't see how men and women's brains not being different until the world or hormones acts on them doesn't stop all arguments that we were built for the roles we exist in like they slammed into a brick wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:11 AM
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1) It's about what we like, agreements for exclusivity don't rest on logical concepts they rest on irrational ones like possession, desire, trust, etc. Casual sex is good for a fair few people and not good for others. Those who it is good for should be able to have it and those who it is not shouldn't. The quintessential problem with freedom is lots of people are just too dumb to self manage without fucking it up. People who shouldn't have casual sex, will. People who should sometimes don't. Peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:09 AM
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Ok but like TONS of red pill people bring up evolutionary psychology and cite gender differences based on that. This shoots pretty much all evolutionary psychology arguments in the face and puts alot of the weight of development on nurture instead of nature. That's a big change from alot of standard Red Pill ideas. If people are individuals what does that mean for AWALT, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:06 AM
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Fair. My thing is that if there aren't two types of brain, that means that the differences exist either due to hormonal differences that alter development in progress, or that they are almost entirely due to the nurture side of development and the nature/nurture debate tilts further towards nurture, wouldn't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:04 AM
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I believe that changes are caused by hormonal differences but most of all by conditioning and environment. I believe this article to be evidence that nature loses to nurture 9 times out of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:02 AM
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1) Judging by domestic violence and abuse statistics men lash out and dump their emotions on other people more than women do 2) The specific example you give about how women can't handle their emotions and men can is actually in real life that women have emotional interdependence in healthy ways and men are catastrophically isolated and emotionally stunted by that isolation. 3) You are trying to hold onto the way you are and come up with a justification for the way "men are" being emotional matu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:01 AM
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lmao calling you it is not misgendering you, it is not a gender. It is an object and you are being dehumanized. Learn the difference please.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:51 PM
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I know all about internal and external locus of control and I can see that too but I'll have to read more about learned helplessness itself. Any links to suggest before I give it to google?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:50 PM
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No but that doesn't mean they wouldn't agree with me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:50 PM
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Not all of society. The US has far more issues about it than other countries with a saner view on sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:49 PM
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Nah I'd rather bitch about it thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:49 PM
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I'm not disagreeing I just also don't see that as a bad thing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:48 PM
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1) No, I don't like you 2) Got a wife for me to fuck in return if you could?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:48 PM
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Only if it's widespread and it's actually not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:40 AM
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I think marriage shouldn't be romanticized and neither should premarital sex or virginity. I like sex being a thing people can freely have alot of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:37 AM
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The few intelligent TRPers admit that TRP does not apply to all women and AWALT is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:32 AM
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I learned a thing, cool
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:27 AM
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You link overgeneralizations back to your personal reaction to an entire group of people lol. That's dictionary definable solipsism, the inability to see or analyze past your own reactions and perspective. I don't have to back a claim when it's literally in the comment I was replying to. But good job on the self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:24 AM
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lol choosing not to engage with a long ass post that could have been summed up in a few sentences and telling you you're taking a purge week post more seriously than I am is not being a snowflake, don't lash out at me cause I wasnt really interested in what you had to say
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:22 AM
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No bisexuals have casual sex plenty. Perhaps more than most. Demisexuals are no casual sex people
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:20 AM
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I'm not like the trans issue master so you got what I understand about it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:20 AM
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I'm almost entirely certain them being demisexual was coincidental to the beatings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:19 AM
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It isn't something you should need an identity label about, and if you need one it shouldn't imitate the language of an actual marginalized group's sexuality labels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:19 AM
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Therapists actually all disagree with you so...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:18 AM
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no?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:18 AM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:17 AM
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I just call it a dealbreaker and move on at this point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:17 AM
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That's a severe overgeneralization that borders on ridiculous there aren't only two motivations for provocative dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:16 AM
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I don't hate straight people, but many of them are people I would rather not live or work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:15 AM
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Huh that is an interesting perspective on them. I can see it. Even the angry ones seem pretty helpless in their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:15 AM
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Nah you have solipsism issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:14 AM
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Then settle for the ever dwindling pool of dating partners who share your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:13 AM
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You are so an it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:13 AM
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It quite obviously follows our orientation naming conventions..
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:12 AM
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Pick a word that doesn't sound like words that belong to marginalized communities because they had to be reclaimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 03:12 AM
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So no bis, no trans people, all that. What's it like to stand on the wrong side of history as you watch it being written?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:32 AM
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Ok so lol all your opportunity cost bullshit is the exact same line a different way that this is the best and more efficient way we can do things and you've basically given up hope on further social evolution. No you didn't win the debate you just ignored my previous post stating that we were at this impasse in the discussion because you're really invested in not losing a debate that neither of us can actually prove. You know exactly what my point is and the truth is it's falling down around our…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 09:04 AM
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It's literally everything I said. I have a few complaints if you haven't noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:17 AM
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LMAO OH GOD IT BROUGHT UP CLIMATE CHANGE I have a real life Trump supporter just like I saw on The Young Turks! The ones that like are crazy in denial OMG I've never actually seen one of you in the wild. How is the mounting insanity going I'm so curious what it's like to feel your brain buzz sawed in half by cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:11 AM
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Good lord. This is my last reply to you. 1) How exactly do you propose to stop control from coming to the top in a world where the vast majority of wealth and productive capital all rests at the top if there are no changes to property rights? This is not a fresh system and the road from where we are to where you are leaves all the same people potentially in power. If you remove them from power that by definition means taking their property. Then what do you do with it? Distribute or nationalize.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:08 AM
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Did you not understand from the very outset that the entire point of this post was a purge week petty "Grinds my gears" type post or what? You nailed it on the head I think we own that ending and they can fuck off. It irritates me. You're allowed to disagree, even if you're gay as hell and already are LGBT and wanna tell me no. I'll call you dumb, but you're free to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:37 AM
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I do not have time to explain to you why you're wrong about this. :Edit: Can someone do the standard intro to what oppression is, who experiences it, and why for straight white dudes for me I've done it way too many times
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:36 AM
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1) I do not have a complete structure for a new government hidden in my head. At least not at this point in my life. More thought on that is required. Included in that is how exactly property rights would take shape. There might well be a more diverse set of goods provided. I wonder about lower cost, we've never tried without capitalism. But also, we're approaching concepts of more localized production and if that becomes possible then resource distribution becomes more simple and it solves the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:27 AM
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My same experience but with several more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:58 AM
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No the rest of my labels don't really get victimized. Poly culture is chock full of white people and the white privilege shield is strong. BDSM is way more popular now than it was when I got into it lol. Also chock full of white people. Being a white dude myself it's really just that I'm bisexual. But I've been put through alot of shit, including being physically attacked, for being bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:58 AM
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There is no reason for the word itself. Demisexuality. Demi means nothing. It means partial. Partially sexual. There are other identities for that including low libido and grey asexual. The convention is an lgbt convention. Homosexual. Bisexual. Transexual. These are labels that we got put on us. And they were used to hurt us by people who weren't like us. And we took those and we owned it. They aren't just words. They were slurs. For a very long time. They were words that could be used against …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:53 AM
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No, nature intended us to live in caves, sharpening sticks, and killing animals for food. That's what we were built for. Everything else is our own goddamn invention. Our own decisions. Our own structure. None of it is immutable. Property rights of some kind are required, yes. You're right, property is just the relationship and what I'm really saying is that the current relationship is bad. When humans are in bad relationships, do we end it all, or break up and find a new relationship? What seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:42 AM
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Inside the community we actually quip that everything trans people do is a little bit gay because of their own internal dynamics. They cannot be socialized into being straight people. It doesn't happen. Most trans people date exclusively inside the LGBT community, all the ones I personally know do but then I live in Texas so I have a location bias. I don't know how to describe it better than yeah they have a bit different issues, being gay doesn't come with dysphoria or ever really involve surge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:22 AM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:19 AM
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Yeah nope. "You can't change the nature of property without changing human nature" Bullshit. Property is an idea. It's not what nature intended. And if you can convince enough people it's in their best interest you can change anything, the problem is education and disinformation. Beyond that your argument is literally fatalism and we might well kill ourselves off before we get any further than this but there's not a damn thing you can say that will ever make me believe that we couldn't get there…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:13 AM
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We used to do alot better than that with advice but these dudes don't listen and also the really specific advice that used to got given got neutered down into some generalized shit that doesn't actually help given out by people who don't understand it because it worked for them, they didn't have to figure out much besides some general guidelines and could competently feel their way through interaction after that and don't understand people who don't have their experience very well. Yeah if you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:06 AM
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I mean if that's accurate yes you should self describe as that. I'm a bi dude who's not into the vast majority of dudes even the tiniest bit and would marry the rest. I mean, theoretically if they were the right type.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 06:01 AM
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Yeah that's alot of what it's about. There's history they are not a part of. Both community history and each of our personal experiences being LGBT in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:59 AM
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The most economically efficient way to allocate capital under capitalism is in as few hands as absolutely required to administrate it. That's the end point of capitalism. Oligarchy. We've figured that out and the economy no longer works based on the economics you are both quoting at me. If it did we'd have had some bankruptcies instead of bail outs. Your economics die on the hill of "too big to fail" and the abysmal legislation that got us here. Oh it also dies on you saying "Not most economical…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:46 AM
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Ive seen stuff like it but that's slut shamey, what does it have to do with the goodness of the husband/man in question?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:42 AM
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I get where you're coming from and I agree. The problem is the appropriation. You didn't hear me say "I don't like it when people call themselves dominants because it steps on LGBT issues"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:40 AM
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Since the internet began, back in the early 2000s on LiveJournal, on Myspace, On Facebook, on Digg, and then on Reddit, on Somethingawful and on Tumblr and on Xanga and all the other forgotten places, people talked about relationships. As soon as anonymously posting the shit that just happened in your relationship became a thing people could do, it happened. Spaces developed around it. Conversations began to happen. Sources began to be shared. There was one graphic that was the cycle of abuse il…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:33 AM
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I know the med struggle. Sorry about that. A half an incel would probably be one who hasn't given up hope yet. And lol ok so part of why I kinda want to study incels is lots of red pill don't have a super strong grip on reality. Very few of them are in any way accurate in their views and the ones who are tend to be the ones who are like predatory but really do not want to get in trouble and are trying to find out how close to the bandsaw they can get their balls without getting nicked. Incels on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:23 AM
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Most of them kinda brag about it in my experience. Like, they talk about blue and red pill as both having not given up and accepted reality (blackpill) like they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:16 AM
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"I'm a LoveRequired. I can't be intimate with someone I don't have a serious romantic connection to" Pick a word, any word, so long as you're not imitating an identity people have died for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:15 AM
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lol. You're really not gonna like it when I explain to you in simple terms that your economics are utter bullshit and help prop up an exploitative system and should be regulated out of existence as they stand and that what you just threw at me is a bunch of theoretical measurements that give you an average compensation gap of more than 30% behind the 1 to 1 I quoted and that you measured compensation on average PER JOB without regard to the elimination of jobs and changes in the workforce which …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:45 AM
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Oh it's not about it existing. It is not a sexuality. It is at best a preference. But it mimics sexual orientation language. If they had come up with a different word that had nothing to do with us for it it wouldn't matter. The same way "I am a dominant" is not saying you're Domsexual or BDSMsexual or some stupid shit like that. But demisexual is a word that implies lgbt status. And occasionally there are demi's who want to make that argument (it never goes well) but mostly it's just like, we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:30 AM
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Every one of my close friends is a feminist and like I'm 34. Most of my friends my age have had kids and most of my younger friends either have recently, are in the process, or are planning on it. The urge to have at least one kid is still one of the most common desires in the world and childfree people are a small minority. It's ridiculous to think that feminists aren't knocking each other up like everyone else and people forget that ten kid families are way out of style and the corresponding f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:05 AM
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Most of the time when I see incels talk about approaching women they quote large, often ludicrous numbers. I never see them talking about an approach, about what the individual experiences are like. I do see lots of them admitting to basically never leaving the house. There are very practical reasons why some of them are invisible that have nothing to do with looks OR personality. Anxiety complexes and bad socialization abound in that subculture and a fair few of them are self aware enough to re…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:01 AM
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I don't have proof dude. But I grew up in the 90s and hit high school in a time just before everyone had a cell phone and anyone at all had much access to sexual education information, relationship abuse information, or places to go to ask questions like /r/relationships. And in that day and age when predators could operate much more freely, I got to know very well what rapists looked like. And then a little later in college, in a time when date rape was almost never rape and seddit openly poste…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:48 AM
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But I won't have to see it. I'm a live and let live kinda guy but active appropriation needs to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:43 AM
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I wouldn't go that far but I am all for public shaming. We do it to people who are trans racial lets do it to them. Also random gripe but demisexual means fucking nothing. Even sapiosexual, which is just straight up bragging about your own intellect randomly in a sexual conversation, means what it says. Sapio. Ok you like smart people. Demisexual. I'm "kinda sexual" The demi part has zero meaning until you explain what it is and the entire rest of the word is just imitating lgbt verbal conventio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:36 AM
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Ohhhhhh. Ok. I see. You're not half an incel you're an unmedicated person with (likely clinical) depression. Go talk to a therapist and stop blaming this on yourself. And get your fucking meds back. I am on Duloxetine, trazadone, and buspar. I have PTSD and when I am not medicated I'm not fucking functional. Especially socially. Get back on your meds. If you can't make your own neurotransmitters, storebought is fine. Get meds and THEN talk to a therapist once you're stable on them. Start there. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:35 AM
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Ok, when I say capital assets I mean the resources and means for production. I mean real capital, owning land or owning the production facilities. Owning the companies themselves. The vast majority of the world's wealth, especially in capital asset form, is in male hands and stays that way. That severely imbalances women's ability to be revenue generators on the scale men are. And let's face it, I have a girl right now who's dating a guy who she says is great in every way except that he wants he…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:23 AM
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Lord. I hate the tax dollars argument. Taxes do not pay for anything do you not know how economics works? The government PRODUCES money. Taxes do not actually pay for shit if they did the US would have shut down over the corporate tax breaks given over the last 40 years quite a while ago, considering how much income the US lost to all of that shit. Also if you look at the distribution of capital assets and you understand that capital makes money you start to really understand why the tax picture…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 02:37 AM
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Yeah I would say extreme disconnection from most common social experiences will drive depression, anxiety, and all kinds of other mental illnesses that are not a joke. Sorry about your night, I'm just waiting for my gf to get back with weed so I can continue trying to get her addicted to game of thrones. (It is working, I knew she'd love Tyrion)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 02:31 AM
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Symmetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:54 AM
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I think the potential for violence if you could tell a rapist or potential rapist on sight from blocks away cannot be overstated. I'm not complaining, I think it would be an interesting world. But the transition from our world to that one would be violent. All massive transitions like that with humanity always are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:53 AM
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lol ok so all together that is "I sometimes feel like a guy, sometimes like a girl, sometimes like neither. I will fuck literally anyone of any body, orientation, whatever, who I am both attracted to and wants to fuck me. But I need emotional connection first and a label to tell you that instead of just being able to talk about moving slowly and getting to know each other like everyone else does." ​
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:50 AM
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Helps by redirecting wasted energy towards more productive endeavors. Exactly how much do you expect people to shout into the wind before they stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:43 AM
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There is far more group sex on our side than on Red's Side, if you know how to find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:42 AM
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Bigender is a nonbinary person who feels equally man and woman, perhaps at the same time or perhaps alternatingly. Pansexual is "I am bisexual but I feel bisexual is a dated label and want to be explicitly trans inclusive in my label so I am a Pan" (I am bi but I was born after 1990!) Genderqueer and bigender are usually mutually exclusive. If bigender is both, gender queer is "I have qualities of both but nothing that matches what men or women are supposed to act like or feel like so I'm a mixt…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:39 AM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:32 AM
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The difference comes when you are sexually selected out of the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:32 AM
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Call it a pet peeve. It pisses me off, especially when I see otherwise straight people claiming the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:32 AM
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I don't think incels refuse to lie and cheat, I think that the majority of them are so socially repugnant that they couldn't lie or cheat to get their way as they cannot make the opportunities with women TO lie and cheat to get their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:31 AM
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Nah I don't want anyone fucking with my perceptions any more than has already happened in this life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:30 AM
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Alternatively, get laid a bunch so you go into your serious adult relationships not having to insecurely compare your experience to hers and feel shortchanged. Let me tell you nothing makes you care less that your girlfriend has had some one night stands in her past like having some group sex and kink in yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:26 AM
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Dressing a certain way doesn't mean it's for you. Modeling and porn are either for her or for money, not for you. So I am failing to see where they're soliciting it from you unless they told you they are, and then I don't think they'd be complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:25 AM
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Depends on the people and the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:23 AM
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Pretty accurate given the generalizations about Tinder that go around when Tinder represents like less than 1% of the dating population in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:15 AM
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Not in the slightest. I am a feminist dom lol so I'm right who that's aimed at. I don't try to find a girl and introduce her to BDSM. I try to find a submissive who wants to date someone. Consent is the key. And not treating women like a monolith which sex negative posts like this quote tend to do. Some women do not like BDSM at all. I do not date those women. I do not significantly flirt with those women. I do not throw BDSM at them in a casual sex situation. Saying that we're hypocritical is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:10 AM
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Marriage is a scam and should only be entered into for financial gain of both parties within the confines of a stable relationship and otherwise people should stop getting married to people like it's a goal to achieve and start getting married like it's a thing that's right for some and not for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:07 AM
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It takes about an hour of solid, good, enthusiastic conversation for me to find a connection with someone that will lead me to feel more than "That person is attractive and I want them" With the right people this is insanely easy to come by.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:59 AM
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Just because men are available doesn't mean any of them want to offer a woman what she needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:57 AM
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Straight people all need to go to six months of relationship counseling before they're allowed to marry for the first time. Five for LGBT people, we're slightly better at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:56 AM
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Because lots of men refuse to learn. Like the answer to this entire post is "Feminists try, lots don't listen because they see holding onto their privilege as a serious goal and aren't about to let you come and convince them to give it up"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:54 AM
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That was the point of opening with "My pet hatred" I fully do not expect a forum primarily full of straight people who likely unanimously do not call themselves demisexual will actually care I just like bitching about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:52 AM
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1) I agree, sexwork should be legal and regulated 2) Kavanaugh is a rapist who got the same handwave most men in power who rape women get 3) COMPLETELY AGREE. This is a problem more in the US than other countries with saner perspectives on sex, early and comprehensive sex education, etc. We have an exact blueprint for how to do it watching other countries succeeded at doing just this and the US just refuses to play ball because of the influence Christianity still has in this country and shouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:26 AM
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So you dated a manchild who happened to be fat? Is this just turning Red Pill on itself or do you actually think everyone who is fat also has the same personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:23 AM
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"Being up front about sexual purpose is also kind of offensive" Deal with it. It's better than dishonesty grow a thicker skin. This is where we're taking dating if you don't like it please happily go back to a time when men were supposed to flirt and feel you up and you were supposed to slap them for going too far and that's what communication in dating was, we won't miss you, no offense. I'm sure there are some red pillers who would love to take that trip with you. Shaming men for attraction ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:20 AM
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Why I watch pretty much all amateur/swinger videos. Real people fucking with no money involved makes fun porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:14 AM
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I wouldn't say "painfully" but the rest of your post minus the tone is correct. Statistically most people are super vanilla compared to the outliers. Not everyone wants to piss up a partner's butt and make them lick it off the floor of the tub when it comes out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:12 AM
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Kink shamey as fuck sorry. Lots of women like anal sex. I fucked my girlfriend in the ass for the first time this weekend and she liked it. Wants more. Some women love degredation I suggest you go visit some BDSM subreddits before you spout any more internalized misogyny out at the world and claim to speak for women you expressly do not. Bleaching and cosmetic surgery are not widespread enough for you to quote like they are. They're an issue created the the problems you're talking about, but the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:10 AM
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Red pillers are a maladaptive strategy to changing times. I used this analogy in another thread and I think it fits well. Through most of history the concept of property has dominated relationships and sex. Women are property, their sex is a product, and backwards men still call the dating world "the sexual marketplace" Red Pill, seeing that women do not want to be owned anymore, has adapted by attempting to learn to squat successfully on property they acknowledge they have no control over. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:04 AM
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PSA: Yo Radfems are TERFs, trans exclusionary radical feminists, and are a transphobic bigoted cis privileged hate group. As a feminist please do not refer to radfems in a positive light unless you want to be jumped on for being transphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 12:00 AM
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No they don't. Not all men have a sex drive that's super high, and some women have sex drives as intense as the horniest men I've ever met. People who have lower sex drives tend to underestimate higher drives but that's no a gendered thing just a people thing. What women do is overestimate the average male's maturity and self control, projecting their own attributes across a man they're attracted to hoping that he's a match (he's usually not)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:58 PM
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Only if men violently oppress them. Women have the same aptitudes for science, invention, development, etc that men do. The only way to keep sexless women at 0 power would be to kill, imprison or maim every woman who tries to gain 1 power. Personally I'd rather kill, imprison, or maim you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:48 PM
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There are no rational men of intelligence besides myself I would trust to get me a wife and I would much rather have women free to be picked than have to go through someone's father. I don't need other men playing gatekeeper when I want to date someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:42 PM
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You're not a 9 in appearance from what you said in your comments you just feel like you are. Which is fair, most people feel they're more attractive than they are. But the answer to your question in this day and age is learn how to talk and ask. Communicate. Escalation isn't done by throwing a hand and seeing if she slaps you. It's not the early 90s anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:36 PM
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Women aren't so much against sexual objectification as they are against you doing it without their consent. The answer to this question is they expect to be able to dress for themselves or for a guy they like and have you leave them alone entirely, which is perfectly reasonable. They want to be objectified by those they give consent to do so. Sex partners and such. Like anyone else, because tell me any straight dude wouldn't like his girl grabbing his arms in bed while he's fucking her and telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:28 PM
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Also, negotiated CNC
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:24 PM
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I think that cuckolding should be as un-kink shamed as any other kink that can be engaged in in a healthy way. I think that the severe slant towards men having this fantasy is an artifact of conditioning. Men are supposed to be in control at all times, a good man is a leader who is and all that. People often explore fears and other intense emotions during sex. And for the average straight man, having his masculinity forcibly taken falls into the same kind of potential arousal situation that rape…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:20 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:12 PM
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So what does that make you, warm diarrhea
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:11 PM
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It could have been *gasp* Charlotte!! What is a good female chad name I just came up with that and it really isn't hitting me like I want. Do I have to use Stacy? I hate that name.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:07 PM
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I am. My fiances have a breeding kink (and so do I). That said it's not like we go off birth control without intending to have a kid we just roleplay about it and have lots of creampies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:05 PM
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Did you not know breeding was a kink? /r/knockmeup youre welcome lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:04 PM
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I love the "gave her youth to chad" line. Like you should have owned her future before she met you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:03 PM
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I will say I fully support theraputic sex robots provided by single payer medicare for the chronically lonely. I have no idea how to actually logistically achieve it but I support exploring the idea seriously lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:02 PM
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That it is. I didn't say everything is going WELL I just said I wanna study extinction in incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:01 PM
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I don't know reddit formatting that well but tbh I feel like this conversation is done. Feel free to quote me at myself for clarification though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:00 PM
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lol someone's bitter about not getting a blowjob. When my other gf comes to visit in a few days maybe I'll take you a picture of two feminists sucking one man's cock. We'll make a metoo poster for the background for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:58 PM
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As a bi guy I have to say black dudes are just as fun as anyone else and generally moreso in bed (at least than the average white dude) and you're just jealous because you can't come out long enough to suck a dick or acknowledge your innate racism enough to admit that any dick, not just a black dick would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:56 PM
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Because /r/incels is dead
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:50 PM
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lol I don't know where you get the idea feminists aren't reproducing. I have two already and more planned. Some of us like to fuck and being a feminist doesn't mean a girl can't have a breeding kink =p
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:50 PM
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Who sees men who don't get sex as automatically good? I'm curious because I see that nowhere including on /r/braincels these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:48 PM
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So many assumptions. "Submissives are all personality disordered or sexually assaulted" and that's not true in the slightest. It's not even a majority. Perhaps it might have been if BDSM was still super niche but it's not at all and there are far too many participants for them to be mostly or even a small majority people who are mentally ill unless you want to severely and broadly expand the definition of mental illness and say that there are shitloads of mentally ill people in the US and UK whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:35 PM
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Well on her end I think she thinks I picked who I picked to like fuck with her. It feel like based on my and my friends' divorces it's pretty common for one or both parties to act like the other person living their life is done to spite them and react accordingly, if that's not you congrats life turned you out more emotionally mature and stable than most people, including everyone I've ever seen go through a divorce lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 10:21 PM
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I was gonna do a long writeup but my bottom line is this. You talk about suboptimal selection but optimal is itself an entirely subjective concept you are trying to objectively apply across people. While at the same time when you say "Well some people just find what they both want even though it's suboptimal and I guess you win" and your studies amount to "This applies to everyone who wants what it applies to except those who don't even if it seems like they should" You create these absolutes th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 03:50 AM
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I now coparent with my son's stepdad because she refuses to ever talk to me again. Every time she's around me she's like visibly angry and we haven't spoken directly in a couple of years now. Her new husband is alright though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 02:58 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 12:31 AM
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My ex wife had a serious boyfriend before our divorce was final and still lost her shit when I moved a woman in with me three months after we signed the divorce. To be fair I bet every ex wife fears the younger hotter woman after the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 12:04 AM
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Hunch, no. More like a compilation of observations of red pill spaces and threads. Red Pill focuses on specific demographics of women to the exclusion of others. It talks about how all women are but the women they describe, use as examples, etc, are all primarily middle to upper middle class straight white women between the ages of puberty and maybe 35 who reside mostly in the US and UK and then brings in evolutionary psychology. I love though how you're pretending Red Pill in general puts that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 12:01 AM
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Yeah I did. You break dating down into a false dichotomy of women seeking short term arrangements labeling alphas as protectors and betas as providers. Yet I am a man with all the alpha traits that you say women specifically select against for long term relationships. I am not someone anyone looks at and thinks they control, from my appearance to my presence in the room. The gait, the voice, all that stuff that you genuinely can't fake. Dominant women specifically are not attracted to me, though…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:55 PM
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And "they" are adults who can communicate their own priorities and needs and not hold anyone else accountable for things they did not explicitly negotiate for in a relationship that is otherwise healthy. You don't get to hold people accountable for needs you have that you don't communicate. If you want kids bring it the fuck up. If you want to get married bring it the fuck up. This is like the opposite of the date rape conversation. Just because he doesn't say "No I don't want to marry you" does…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:37 PM
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None of my relationships fit into that dichotomy. Most people's life experience I've ever heard doesn't. But I guess I kinda do match your specific list of alpha traits, everything but beauty. My priority list is different though. Your post basically assumes that all people have the same basic set of immutable life priorities, which is just untrue. You assume that women all universally exhibit a change from lack of control to a desire to seek control and I guess become the alpha in the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:33 PM
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I'm willing to accept your contention that women are more visual than men in casual hookup situations if you acknowledge that this is largely because women are on the whole more selective when it comes to casual sex and men are literally papering the internet with offers for free sex. I need to go google tinder participation statistics hold on. Huh.. interesting. A study I just read said that Tinder vs POF use varies by country quite a bit. In the US 21% of women using dating apps are on Tinder …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:12 PM
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You got a few things mixed up. 1) Saying women are less visual is a way of talking about how they process information in their brains. It's not saying they aren't at all, it's saying that often non visual associations are stronger. Example? Height. Some women do like the look of a tall man. More women talk about the feel. Women talk about how big a man feels in their arms and how small they feel in his. Women talk about strength in practical applications. It's not the look of a strong man as muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:54 PM
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Is this a serious post or is this "Blue Pill with a red pill attitude" If serious lol this is narcissistic as fuck and the concept that anyone is owed more than they were willing to ask for in an otherwise healthy relationship is fucking laughable. Also lol @ pretending women do not also seek relationships that are not actively moving towards marriage just for fun companionship, romance, and sex on the up and up, especially in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:23 PM
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I will say the most vocal fat acceptance people I know are girls with fat boyfriends. Just my anecdotal experience but I do spend all my social time around bluepilled people. Not everyone who's a feminist is without their issues. People of color have been talking about "White feminism" for a few years now and it's an issue. 53% of white women voted for Trump I guarantee you there are feminists in there who their racism beat their feminism. People are fucked up. It's a work in progress. And also …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:17 PM
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More the high degree of self absorption and bean counting, transactional nature of your social interactions with the opposite gender. Not saying you can't find those other characteristics too, but they're not the ones I'm specifically talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 10:02 PM
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I...uhhh... So I said "Women who act like red pillers" That's all I said. YOU are the one who interpreted "like red pill" to mean "unstable" sooo....
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:54 PM
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I don't really see how I'm not an alpha as red pill defines them. Hell I'm bi, I don't really ascribe to straight masculinity much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:52 PM
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My Happy Gilmore-esque happy place
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:47 PM
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I meant more that either way you're going to be looking for women with a more red pill matched mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 09:43 PM
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Their methods to seem to self select them towards the women who act just like them, thus reinforcing their biases horribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:02 PM
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1) If I could, hell yeah. I'm a slut sounds like fun. But it's hard for guys to rack up those numbers when they're relatively average looking. 2) Why? Because it sounds like fun. Under what conditions? Tbh just find me a swingers circle with alot of bi couples, I'm bi I'll rack up the boys and girls. 3) Like I got a pointless achivement in WoW, in other words awesome 4) I believe in ethical nonmonogamy and just want free sex with people who aren't cheating, infected with anything, or overly vani…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:56 PM
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Lord. I blame her. She gets an F for communication. The initial trigger was him not putting the extra energy into sex she needed. Sex in a relationship is mutable. Not all sex is supposed to be a two hour long foreplay intense affair. It sounds like that dried up entirely and she disengaged from him. Thing is, ok so a thing happened and she had a response. But she at that point knew something was wrong and he didn't. And she just kept it. Blew him to avoid kissing him kept it to herself. I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:48 PM
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Your title and one sentence are talking about two entirely different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:37 PM
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Sex without connection doesn't meet any needs I have that masturbation can't. Even casual sex can have a casual connection. Connection without sex in a romantic context is absolutely frustration to me though and I don't stay in relationships without a high degree of sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:36 PM
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Came here to post this. The wall is a red pill concept, not a world concept that red pill agrees with. Blue pill just disagrees with the metaphor as it's presented (because there's a different presentation for every guy who does a writeup on it)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:33 PM
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I really couldn't say as to your personal experience. I've had 2 serious relationships end (I don't really count dating that lasts weeks to a few months as anything) the first was my ex wife who got abusive after we had a kid and she couldn't take the stress who I froze out of the bedroom for 7 months until she stopped treating me like shit and she filed rather than work on her issues or go to a therapist. The second I dumped after 4 years because it just wasn't working and I needed it over. My …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 06:32 PM
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This is stupid. No you're right I don't have a study. They don't study the left behind much. There aren't many studies about incels either. The ways in which life are grim for a woman who is explicitly unattractive especially later in life are systemic and I might be guilty of a few iffy examples and explanation but that doesn't change the abject neglect society treats ugly people with and the realities of having that treatment stacked on top of a lack of male privilege is, in my opinion, grim. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 05:54 PM
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You've stumbled across the alt right. Google "Proud boys" They are an alt right group that advertises as "western chauvanist" and they are the alt right's specific brand of response to feminism now that they're organized to respond on multiple social issue fronts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 03:16 AM
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Actually the guy who brought the gun to the date carried concealed and it was a crime of impulse, not premeditated. Why I'm also an advocate for gun control. Bullets won't stop our government, not anymore, and I'm honestly more afraid of your average citizen with a gun than even the cops (and I don't like cops)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:40 PM
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I'll own being an ignorant american on this one. It doesn't happen here much. Nancy Pelosi being a noteable exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 08:50 PM
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Do you see ugly women in politics? How about on TV? Ted Cruz is ugly as shit, so is Trump, doesn't matter much. Hillary looks like she could still throw a good fuck in her 60s. Piss and vinegar. Women have to maintain like men do not. Appearance matters for them in ways it doesn't for men. There are fewer opportunities presented to the least attractive ones, often less than they need to thrive as people. And it's different. It's not like active oppression like black people exist under. It's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 07:38 PM
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True to a point. Attractive women do not see much of a drop in their casual sex prospects, but definitely do in their relationship prospects. A 35 year old woman rarely dates a man under 30. Even now as age gap relationships become more common they are far more common with older men and younger women and older women with younger men is seldom marriage and maybe even kids serious. Unattractive women see a bigger but still not huge drop in their casual sex prospects, but relationship prospects pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 06:45 PM
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It's not a troll coming from someone who genuinely thinks most of the globe could use a therapist in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:43 PM
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Would you also consider it an attack if I suggested that if you have issues in relationships, the avoidance of responsibility you're demonstrating here absolutely plays a huge part and you should consider talking to a therapist and working on it to find a better you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:41 PM
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Actually I cited factual history that contradicts your argument and then continued to explain why your views are wrong. They are not fact based (irrational) and your use of language like "Grow the F up. Be big girls" is condescending and emotional. You do not like the way things are or the way things are going. You do not like acknowledging that the risks are real. You dismiss them out of hand based on nonfactual reasoning. Thus, your entire argument is factually a result of your prejudice, as e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:36 PM
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Wrong way about it. This isn't about some overarching view of society. This is the same mental process that keeps people enthralled to capitalism. The temporarily embarrassed millionaire fallacy. People support capitalism because of the hope that one day they can be one of the rich ones, because we've been sold an idea that any day, any idea, could be the one that means you no longer have to worry about money anymore. You win the prize. Most don't. It sets up all kinds of insane societal and eco…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:31 PM
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Thiiiissss ​ All of this
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:22 PM
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Women have been shot moments after telling men no within the last few years in America. Women get beaten. And no, no white knights pop up. Your view of reality is irrational and like dissociated from what anyone actually experiences. What you think is real is all figments of your imagination created by the resentment you feel for not finding the success you want with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:19 PM
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I take a lack of direct positive response as no consent. If she's not actively giving me "Yeah I like this" signals I assume she would rather not. Do this with men too fyi. Yes if you make a girl make you stop when she's pretty obviously not into it you're the asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:18 PM
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If the challenges have substance that sounds like fun. If they're pointless or only serve to entertain her I'll go from bored to irritated pretty quickly and it'll stop or we'll break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:59 AM
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Nice copypaste
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:21 AM
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I've literally had this discussion before with a girlfriend. We were open and she really wanted to fuck her boss. He was down but he was also a bit of a weird unpredictable dick and he'd fired girls for stopping fucking him before. I told her no find someone else and she did. (It was not brought up to him he just hit on her so we knew he'd say yes)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:20 AM
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Ok. There is a difference between anonymous from like legit dangerous people and anonymous from Joe Blow Gen Xer who is fully competent with chrome and takes his laptop to best buy when windows fucks up and owns a gun and is MGTOW after a messy divorce and lost his shit. Because it's Joe Blow I'm actually worried about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:13 AM
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How could you not? I don't personalize emotions unless there's real blame, first off. Like, if she fucked you up in the breakup, I'd be mad about that. If she tried to be nice, well breakups hurt and also sometimes breakups are necessary. Everyone who dates rationally goes through breakups. The first person you date will never be the person you should marry and be with forever. Soulmates do not exist. You're just some like percentage compatible with people. The more compatible you are, the more …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:50 AM
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Online sex workers are fun and I wouldn't have a problem with my girlfriend doing it so long as it was anonymous. No like snapchat throughout the day out doing things and riskier shit some of the single ones engage in sometimes. I'd prefer no one be able to find our physical address. I think the acceptance of sex work in this online form has lead to people being more open about sexwork in general and alot of the stigma has been taken away. It's one of the few ways younger people sometimes have w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:32 AM
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Why do you hate her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:29 AM
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Do I think any significant number of women build a bimbo persona to use in the world and try to like live as that? To date as a bimbo and land a marriage that way? No. If it happens it's too rare to generalize about. Weird outlier cases and gold diggers in the 1%. Adaptations to specific environments lol. Do I think girls play dumb in bars to get free drinks? Sure. I don't date women who aren't highly intelligent though so it's outside my experience entirely. I need someone who can keep up in co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:26 AM
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Seems fake but I side with the husband or against the wife, whichever you prefer. I'm bluepill as fuck but my babies are mine and I like it that way. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:18 AM
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To me this is like asking what I'd do if my kid keyed my car. Little fuck would be working off the paint work I had to have done about it, I don't care if they're in their 30s. But my kids would never key my car.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:09 AM
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This is a long post to say talk to the pretty girl. Works though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:05 AM
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Yeah. Complimenting a woman for the compliment is good. Communicating desire is good. But you should be communicating other things and communicating desire other ways than just compliments. Being a one trick pony doesn't show someone who you are and tbh not everyone accepts compliments equally. If you're complimenting someone to express desire, what if they focus too much on the compliment? On either agreeing with it and feeling complimented and seen instead of realizing that you're actively tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 10:01 PM
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Structure. You structure your boundaries, personal lines, expectations, and such and you stand up for them to the death tbh. How do you balance? Are you complimenting her because you want and plan for her to feel good, or because it feels good to say a nice thing? If you're complimenting her because you enjoy being that guy (or because it's a safe way to express that causes you no anxiety) you're actually making the interaction about you. That's not actually fun to interact with and after a whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 09:34 PM
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My daughter will be raised to be better than that. You don't fuck with the family income streams, period. If my daughter did that, I'd tell her it will be a while after she's done with him before she's welcome at my house. This isn't an adult friend of mine she's had a crush on for 12 years that she fucks in her 20s this is my direct current boss. Nope. Don't fuck with my job. You can find plenty of other men like him. lol this is actually a rule in my open relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 09:15 PM
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Men do not punish promiscuity except where family or general views and attitudes are concerned, generally. Well, also legislation. And emotional abuse towards spouses with high partner counts. And slut shaming women in their vicinity who don't give them sex. Oh right. Men don't punish promiscuity when it's under their control. The difference in response between men and women makes perfect sense when you consider that other women consider other women their peers and interact in peer related ways …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 09:06 PM
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If you can fuck your friend's dad, have her NOT hate you for it, and get married and be happy while going on vacation together the three of you, power to you. Live your best life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:41 PM
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Yes, being middle class in an environment full of spoiled rich kids without the slightest conception that they're bragging about shit they're lucky to have and nothing else, is going to affect how dating works. Yes I would absolutely say the vast majority of those people are garbage humans who have been ruined by an amount of wealth that amounts to them having no clue how the actual world works and how the vast majority of people live. Yes I would say you will see more success around more ground…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:38 PM
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No not even close. There might be men who are physically attractive to most women and there are common personality traits that most people are attracted to but when you distill that down into an individual person there is no individual person who is universally appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:31 PM
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You have to be pretty ugly as a woman for this to not be realistically possible. The number of guys who will meet in a heartbeat for free sex with just about any woman off Tinder is honestly depressing. The outlier cases are likely gonna be access issues. "Help I'm a woman in a town of 1200 there aren't enough people here I could ever consider fucking to hit 35 bodies"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:27 PM
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This is how people end up married to people they end up hating "because it seemed like the right choice based on available data"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:24 PM
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lol "thanks to western men" if western men had had their way we'd still live in the 50s and women wouldn't have the right to vote or own property.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:22 PM
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No men being afraid of the consequences of rape for the first time in modern history on a societal level is absolutely benefitting society. Just not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:21 PM
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I guess I know a few girls who say that's what the guy they had a kid with pays.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 03:00 PM
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I'm a a bi dude and if a guy is under 5" I won't call him back
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 03:26 AM
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ok that made me laugh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 03:19 AM
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The right to choose abortion or not without input from anyone but her doctor without freeing the guy from responsibility towards the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 03:18 AM
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Less than 2% of accusations are false I'm quite a fan of the naming and shaming going on. These conversations need to happen and they're gonna suck. Everyone involved has to suck it up until sexual assault stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 10:48 PM
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The men who are afraid of a thing happening to them are either way overreacting (like the OP) or secretly predators pissed at having fewer ways to prey on people. Like Henry Cavill. It really is not hard to not say inappropriate shit to women. What men want is the ability to take risks based on what they want and how bad they want it and women have said "No you abused that privilege too much, adapt and change" and men are crying. I've had alot of sex, including drunken sex, and never once had ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 09:09 PM
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"Men are at women's mercy!" *1% of actual rapes end in conviction* "The world is so scary for men! We constantly have to be afraid!" *Ignores rape statistics that make the world a scary place for women*
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 08:45 PM
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What is this, a portrait of a bluepilled alpha douche? Was this posted by Bill Clinton?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:07 PM
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I really honestly do not know. Too many variables. I can't see it happening though. I have two kids and they both look like my little clones, boy and girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:03 PM
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Nothing about what I said had a thing to do with insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:58 PM
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Yeah none of us can afford to have 5 kids but 1s and 2s are still really common and so is the desire for 1-2 kids at some point in the actively dating population. Childfree is becoming socially acceptable (its dumb it wasn't) but it's still a minority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:56 PM
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Perhaps not to you or me, but it does for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 05:49 AM
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It is not rational to discard to emotional component to relationships and sex and you're reducing objections to extramarital arrangements to just insecurity which isn't an accurate representation just of the irrational reasons involved to say nothing of the potential rational ones. Your argument has literally no value. And I actually am poly and in open relationships lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:39 AM
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The problem with that is your dating pool is who is currently single in that age group and that is a complete crapshoot. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:36 AM
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Empathy, sympathy, compatibility in personality and life priorities and such. Expected life structure. Monogamy is right for some people. That is a fundamentally irrational statement it is also objectively true. It's not right for others. When it is right, a life follows behind that has to be built. You can't build a life with someone who wants to structure their life radically different from yours. Someone who is so different that you can't relate emotionally. Well who knows maybe you can but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:28 AM
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Childfree puts you in a severe minority of heterosexuality. Having standards of any significant kind severely limits your dating pool. You're trying to win a small lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:20 AM
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Don't get married young either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/18 04:16 AM
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I will repeat to you that the common response was a logical belief that a benevolently sexist man will provide. That benevolent sexism is not a trait which drives an emotional response but a logical one. The actual abstract says this. This study wasn't just a numbers study it was studying choice and reasoning, an active critical process. Women said benevolently sexist men were more attractive especially in relationship contexts because of the assumption of that benevolence being directed at them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:27 PM
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It is unethical. I didn't even have to bring up the word ethics for you to say it yourself. Ugh fine. Yeah you're right. Lying is often an effective strategy in social interaction where they don't see it coming or can't detect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:10 PM
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The only thing I think the MGTOW community gets right is absolutely be alone before you date an abusive or exploitative person. If you can't find one buy sex toys and live alone, look for a fuckbuddy, hire a sex worker. Anything but settling for abuse/narcissism/etc. If half the world is utterly undateable and shunned by everyone so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:04 PM
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You can literally pay 5 bucks a year in child support to avoid court action against you for it yeah Child support is help but most of the time not much of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:56 PM
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Which brings me back to the practical application. It's a valid strategy only if you have a method. And we covered the fact that if you are trying to get laid, showing benevolently sexist traits sends a message of longevity which is the opposite of what you want to send if you want to hook up. Guys who act like they want to commit to get laid get bad reputations these days. Not a good strategy. And if you're not acting like you want to commit, benevolent sexism won't help you much because it's s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:54 PM
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Nooo. Masculine arrogant assholes do not always come out on top. One of the genuinely nicest guys I know (who's pretty hot) is married to the a gorgeous girl who is equally nice. One thing that men often forget is that when they're looking at a hot guy and a hot girl out in public that's not all there is. They didn't just match up because they're hot and their time came. Both of them could have chosen other people, they're both hot. Personality is the main deciding factor there once looks meet t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:52 PM
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We divide labor in my house based on aptitude, preference, etc and try to come out with the same amount of time spent on being productive. I hate dishes. I am bad at them. My ADHD mind misses things in that kind of a detail oriented task and I end up getting bitched at for some of them still being dirty, and making sure they aren't takes me twice as much time as my girlfriend. But she hates cleaning floors. Hates sweeping, hates mopping, hates vaccuming. I care not at all about all three of thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:47 PM
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If a dude is a submissive and straight he needs a female dominant I don't see what the problem is. You said your friend has gone through a big change. Sounds like he's stepped outside the traditional masculinity box and found it fits him better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:44 PM
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Some women do want that. Red Pill ignores the fact that men and women there is a not insignificant portion of people who seem less than naturally monogamous. We want to fuck other people, in many cases we don't mind our spouses doing it so long as we get to. Some people fuck others together, some apart. Some of us, the greatest nightmare is the idea of being trapped in any relationship which does not allow us to fuck someone new once in a while, especially after you've been together for years an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:42 PM
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I didn't say sex is not an outcome dude. I said that sex is an outcome of attraction and all that was studied was initial attraction. Initial attraction and choosing to consent to sex are very different questions that are going to engage the mind differently and have different expectations and standards for people. It is not a dumb hill to die on that studying self expressed initial attraction (a thought experiment) and studying sexual outcomes (hard facts) are two very different things and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:30 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:26 PM
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Men are only far more likely to be considerate of a woman if that woman is outwardly submissive towards the men. And on average men are entirely unlikely to start a fight with a woman and mostly unlikely to start a fight with a man. It's 2018 most people don't walk around swinging into assault charges lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:26 PM
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There's so little nuance to anything you say. "Women prefer sexist men, so men should be sexist" Let's throw in the word benevolent twice to give you the benefit of the doubt. The study, once again, only studied initial attraction. Sex is an outcome. There is no study at this point about benevolent sexism and the likelihood of getting laid. They only studied initial attraction to otherwise strangers they did not know based upon abstract theoretical perceptions about traits that they had no time …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 08:23 AM
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Social conditioning isn't just about subconscious desire. It is also about active conscious perception. The studied included information about this. That the women's attraction was considered, involved a perception that the men would either be more willing to commit or more willing to provide. Is it not suspect to you that so many women used the same logical concepts to define their attraction? Logic is not instinctual at all. Logic is 100% learned. Clearly this preference is learned. If we unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:56 AM
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Well actually this thread said that feminists think that sexist men are sexier than woke men and that's wrong. The specific study is that women tend to somewhat (not a huge preference) prefer men who have benevolently sexist traits over men who do not have them and that this preference is widespread. Here's the thing though. The study stated that the women involved had specific logical reasoning stated. That reasoning being that those men were seen as being more willing to commit or invest. Whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:37 AM
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:smh: It doesn't matter why? Yeah it does, because the preference for benevolent sexism is alot lower than it would have been if you studied it in the fifties. It is one data point at one point in time that is in flux and the why is important if you want to be aware of the world, where it's going, where it's come from, and why it's moving between those points. It's been shot to pieces because the argument for benevolent sexism is that the preference is innate. If it was not innate there's no rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:24 AM
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lol not benevolent sexism again. First, benevolent sexism is more attractive than not benevolent sexism and benevolent men tend to be more attractive than non benevolent men. Across the averages it's a plus in the dating world. Second, as gender equality is an ongoing battle let us accept for the sake of discussion that the average man is sexist in measurable ways through societal conditioning to some degree or another. Third, let's realize that if most to all of the men you date are at least a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:19 AM
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Being aware that men don't respect women and will more readily back off for other men and using that to your advantage isn't sexism doofus.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:08 AM
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lmao you think a woman won't walk up and save a friend of hers from an aggressive and unwanted advance from another woman? And dear God you should see the Oscar worthy performances women put on in gay bars when their gay friend wants to escape a gay dude who is not a friend. He'll never convince the guy he's straight, but she'll come damn close to convincing them for him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:06 AM
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This is the same benevolent sexism article rehashed again, the same exact argument that got shot to pieces. When society itself is sexist and women have to fight for basic rights in legislative and judicial form, it is a result that all men are going to be a little sexist. Some more than others. Now, we have advanced, but we have not left that behind. So, a man who's sexism itself takes benevolent form is going to be preferable to a man who has no benevolence, or who's specific sexism isn't bene…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 07:03 AM
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Mail order brides are all adults and are not women who are assumed to have been socialized to be married off as young as 13. That video you linked said one in five girls there is illiterate. I think you'll find a 100% literacy rate in the mail order bride system lol. The marriage market is taboo because the families are selling the girls, raising the girls, etc. Mail order brides are the person selling herself or whatever. Personal choice matters. Society being structured to keep women ignorant …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 06:52 AM
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Seeing your average guy with power tools is probably pretty close.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 06:45 AM
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Rambo is a male power fantasy not a female sex fantasy. Dracula is a dude who will go down on a girl on her period.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 06:24 AM
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Women know when they are flirting, women do not know when you think they are flirting, and you want to hold them responsible for when you think they are flirting that they think they are not. Or in the words of Will Ferrel from The Other Guys "Now you are asking me to mask my emotions because of how it makes you feel, and that I will not do" lol get over it tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 06:22 AM
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Deflecting blame is an American human problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 06:18 AM
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Where to begin... You linked a divorce statistic that means little and says nothing about marital satisfaction. That statistic exists amidst context like "Sexually conservative women are less likely to see divorce as an option especially in Christian communities" You linked a girl being completely ignorant of her own behavior with regard to cultural and family pressures and racism that doesn't come from white people as an example of "Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks" and you talk about the bad boy stereot…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 06:13 AM
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The internet changed how dating worked. In about every way possible. It changed what people were looking for, it changed how they were looking for them, it gave them access to people outside of their immediate social circles, friend groups, employment environments, etc. Long distance relationships were relatively rare back when everyone was communicating via phone and physical letter only. That was like how the majority of the US was in 1999. You dated people you saw in front of you, if you were…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:43 AM
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High body counts were unheard of because until the internet there wasn't anywhere for people to anonymously discuss it like this. Do you not know the history of swinging in America, especially pre 80s and aids? You said you grew up in the 70s did you not hear about hippies and orgies?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:33 AM
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"Hey, you're good enough for me, I like you. Am I good enough for you?" God such a terrible mindset. So lets talk about good enough itself as a concept first. Good enough is are you a decent human being. Good enough is do you keep your word. Good enough is do you know how to show basic respect and how to engage in healthy relationship communication. Good enough is if you have a mental illness you're working on it. The good enough you're talking about is more about a value judgment. I would advis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 05:29 AM
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Meet people in person, fish around for someone you can send an actual interesting first message to on an app not based around tinder matches, take a college class and hit on people who can buy their own alcohol. The usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 04:14 AM
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I think marriage should be about having figured out that you fit well enough to say yes to tax benefits and involving a judge in your breakup. I think that the point of marriage is to say "Ok this person is a good enough match I need to have divorce in front of me before I consider ending this relationship"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 04:05 AM
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Self improvement isn't red pill, just because red pill says it's red pill and presents concepts that have existed for a long time couched in red pill language and you ran into it there first.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 04:03 AM
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Socially adept and dominant are two entirely separate categories of personality trait. They have interactions but exist on scales that are separate from and unrelated to each other. Dominance at it's core involves a desire to lead and be followed. Being socially adept is about being able to read and respond to social interaction in a fluid, spontaneous, authentic manner that other people are pleased by. In many ways people who are less socially adept are more suited to dominance. The power dynam…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 03:54 AM
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1.8 and 2.6.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/18 03:42 AM
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You got this all backwards and twisted up. The flake isn't "forgetting you're in the top 20%" that's just you stroking your ego lol. Flakes are flaking on you like every other guy because that's what they do and who they are. Not saying you're not right to avoid those girls, I'm saying that you made an entire post about how those girls should specifically be treating you differently and maybe they'd find more success in dating (you) and it's kinda funny how you made this entire post about it but…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:27 AM
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It's fraud, no they don't deserve it. Posting it online without a photo release signed when they were sober should be illegal even if you actually gave them the money. This is predatory and gross as fuck. That said a hundred bucks is a hundred bucks and it really depends on how creeped out I am by whoever is asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:04 AM
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I expect my wife to despise Jeff Dunham. No one asked for puppets, Netflix.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:02 AM
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lmao truuuuuuu
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 07:00 AM
1

Who's smarter, funnier, and kinkier?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:59 AM
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If you have opportunities which require or are aided by losing ethics and morality, probably. If you're naturally good at being awful, probably. If you have some level of privilege to avoid consequences for the actions you're taking, probably. If you never get caught, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:58 AM
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Women play hard to get because guys often use women for sex and playing hard to get is how they verify if your interest is purely sexual or if you're invested enough to put up with some bullshit in order to be around her. Also can be a litmus test for anger issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:56 AM
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This is so backwards. Men don't seek power for sex. Power is it's own pursuit. People seek power and use power to control. Greed is it's own reward it's not a sexual selection or mate attraction mechanism in our society. Some women are attracted to wealth and power. Most women don't seek it in any significant way. You need to understand, most women aren't socialized around the rich any more than most men are. They aren't around those guys, they don't have access to them or travel in their circle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:54 AM
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My source is his post. He talks about relationships like an investment scheme. Businesslike and transactional. The structure he's going into this with is entirely self centered. "How do I get the most out of this" It's substituting getting to know your partner so you can predict them with searching for some system of data points from which he can draw statistical future predictions. It's substituting this analysis for alot of what dating is supposed to be. If you're picking a partner based on da…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:44 AM
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It's funny you say I'm trying to make him feel bad, I didn't call him names, I told him that his expressed perspective on sex is absent any part of the emotional connection people seek relationships for. I do enjoy putting dumb people in their place from time to time, this is not that. I really shouldn't have to explain why treating your relationships like a business decision makes for bad partner selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 06:34 AM
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It's not goal post moving to say that one person's neurodivergence makes normal emotional attachment really not make sense to them and another person's is CPTSD without significant attachment issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:26 AM
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Buy yourself a human growth and development textbook, go learn everything there is to know about human attachment in a first year course textbook, then come back and I'll talk to you about the fact that that's not what this guy is looking for and that if he claims to be statistical modeling is not how you find it. But really, he is fundamentally not looking for the emotional connection that is why, outside of arranged marriage type situations that are explicitly for practical gains, people engag…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:09 AM
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Oh I'm totally neurodivergent just not in ways that make me incompatible with romance and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:06 AM
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He's talking about business models and relationships in the same post...this isn't being backed into a corner by facts this is carping on about a statistic absent 99% of the context and completely missing the entire point of relationships AND how they work in the real world. Someone who approaches relationships with this kind of profit/loss thinking isn't someone who I'd want to commit to. It's 2018, if you need financial stability these days you get roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:05 AM
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This is a really hamfisted ad homenim. The fact that you describe relationships being less satisfying when romantic is at the same time really just evidence that I'm right and your emotions don't work like other people's and actual relationships are not for you, and you should stop trying to talk about how people who aren't neurodivergent like you how to have the romantic relationships you seem not compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:39 PM
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True. Obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:26 PM
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Anyone who approaches dating this logically really shouldn't be dating anyone. If you're choosing your partners because of the statistical likelihood of things going bad, you have like zero idea how to pick a partner that is actually compatible with you and also seemingly no ability to judge character without objective measures of some kind. You call it narcissism because you do not understand human connection on several basic, internal levels. Because human relationships are not for what you ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:25 PM
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I think men are sexually active in different patterns and that'll change any correlations involved. I'd wanna see it studied before I said more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:17 PM
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lol So to be equal the answer to dating and flirting in the workplace is to mandate a dress code which only changes what women wear, really (especially in any professional setting) and you think that ordering women to dress certain ways so the men aren't attracted isn't discriminatory? ​
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:25 PM
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I'd say two things. Most of those statistics, like STD rates, are no brainers. More partners = more risk. The ones that aren't, like self reported marital happiness, I tend to question. I look at the percent that are "in stable 5+ year marriages" and I'm wondering is that like who is in one of those at the time they were surveyed? Is that people who have had a 5 year marriage, specifically, and 5 year relationships are not included? Focusing on marriage in a time when people trust marriage less …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:24 PM
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I don't think you understand self improvement. No one else can take responsibility for your issues, not healthily. If you're dating someone who's trying it's gonna die and also that makes you a child looking for a mother more than a guy looking for a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 06:08 PM
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What do you mean do what others want without question? ​
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:16 AM
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Your goals for self improvement are yours, not your partners. You give them input but it is input only. The responsibility rests on you, including the responsibility of choice. It's your job to choose what to work on, when. It's your job to self manage your own energy and time. It's their job to respect and support the process. You avoid being taken advantage of by watching for abusive patterns. My partners hold me accountable to things I commit to. I don't make bad commitments and I don't spend…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 07:15 AM
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The usual capitalistic delusion that more than a tiny fraction of people can be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:49 AM
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People often do. In my opinion there is a difference between a problem (My libido dropped because life sucks and I'm stressed out) and an incompatibility (Sex doesn't really matter to me much at all and it matters much more to you by relative comparison) and I don't try to solve incompatibilities and people who do are the kind of people who lost their jobs at GM and will still vote Trump in 2020 (if he's not in prison by then) Being a starfish isn't a temporary problem. It shows a significant la…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 01:44 AM
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He's uncomfortable because he just got really insecure at being compared to the kind of guys who put up solo jerk videos for people to look at. lol you have a funny association and I mean if that's what gets you off go for it, but you're relying on one single visual association to evoke the past and that's one of many ways to turn yourself on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:22 PM
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Marital rape used to be a thing that couldn't be a crime because a wife legally owed her husband sex. So, yeah there was. These days you find women who enjoy that most often in BDSM relationships. If you haven't met a woman who enjoys satisfying her partners needs when she's not particularly in the mood I suggest you look into the "Freeuse" kink lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:14 PM
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I think blue tends to be more progressive and red more conservative, but given that Hillary is now what republicans used to be like 30 years ago and Trump is a white supremacist the goal posts have been moved enough in the country that people who might have been republicans if it was 20-40 years ago are now basically democrats with or without the neoliberalism part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:12 PM
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No, your dichotomy is not realistic or nuanced in any way and as a generalization doesn't actually reflect how women behave in the real world in any significant way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:09 PM
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Stop treating starfish sex like a problem that women need to address and start treating it like "This person does not prioritize or enjoy sex like I do and we should not be in a sexual relationship" If someone stops putting in effort that's a different problem. Address it, get to a counselor, or, you know, think about what you want to do about a relationship where your partner stops giving a shit about your needs. If someone is a starfish and you don't like it stop dating them. If everyone stops…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:07 PM
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Thissss. Expectation makes up like at least 80% of the average human's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:05 PM
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Sarcastic bisexual progressive nonreligious slutty pothead girls and boys. As smart as I can find. Personality is important. Appearance might be why you start fucking, personality is why you don't stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:00 PM
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Came here to post this
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:53 PM
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I disagree. If you enter into a relationship where sex is part of the agreement within the relationship you are taking some level of responsibility for your partners needs. If you are expecting exclusivity and your partner is agreeing to it, those needs just became partially yours to meet. I am poly and even in poly relationships it is understood that if sex is part of how you relate to each other and needed for either party it is the responsibility of the other party to put energy towards meeti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 03:17 PM
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Yeah NOOOOOOOOOO. This isn't absolute in one way or the other but a person has every right to require that their primary relationship(s) include satisfying sex and to end any relationship that does not. I'm poly and dating two women and both of them are satisfying sexual partners I would not date either of them if they weren't independently fun in bed. You are right that sex should not be coerced. If you as the partner with the lower libido don't want to have it you have every right to have your…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 02:32 PM
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This is just like a random wild prediction on mainstream culture embracing inceldom which is not gonna happen. Bronies waited for years, made their own movie, and still are on the periphery of society. Furries have fallen into "Don't kinkshame, but also keep your kink the fuck away from all of us and never bring it up unless you know you're talking to another furry" and incels who are even less of a real community than the two above groups will not get even the marginal acceptance of Bronies and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 02:01 PM
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No that's marriage. Monogamy exists in nature, it is the contract of marriage designed to curb individuals into cogent households that fits into the specific economic goals of society under capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/18 01:50 PM
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Problem with the current trend is that people are trying to open up the relationship in response to needs they don't know how to negotiate for or talk about and often people don't know how to handle the results. There are ways to do these things and most people don't know them. There are few places you can go to find good information on how to try, either. But at the same time, you don't hear about the ones where it goes well and they have no need to ask /r/relationships how to save a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:33 PM
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lol my preferences are women who fall within a pretty complicated set of standards and tendencies and preferences and life priorities. It's a narrow band of humanity. Fortunately for me, the kind of girl I like is a kind of girl who likes guys like me. I figured that out pretty well, or maybe I just got lucky. My standards come from experience. Who do I like, who works well with me. Also from my own life priorities. Physically my preferences vary. One of my girlfriends is tall and curvy, the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:13 PM
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To get the best sex partners you have to be one of the best sex partners and most men do not measure up to that one specific standard well enough to spend much time in the top 10% of women by sexual skill and enthusiasm. Lots of men, the women they really want sexually don't stick around them long. And the women who want to stick around them are the ones who prioritize sex alot less in their lives and who don't need a guy who can perform in bed. If you can't last upwards of 20 minutes bare there…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:06 PM
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For some of us they are. Not all people are monogamous. Not all people are nonmonogamous either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:12 PM
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lol women were taken as slaves and raped en masse after battles for most of human history, treated as property and traded and valued as property. But sure let's call men running the world with no input from women and making war on each other over border and philosophy disputes and just pure greed since the invention of the concept of property "gynocentrism" ​
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:11 PM
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Culture itself skews heavily heterosexual. Gay kids grow up knowing this, it's nothing new. Just let the gays be gay at the school dances. Problem solved. Remove enforced heteronormativity and we lgbt people are fine. Prom king and queen can go the way of the dinosaur though. It's barely been relevant for a long while. No one will miss it in ten years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:09 PM
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Don't use Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 08:04 PM
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Does it count if I was dating a guy with PTSD who I thought he could get better and in the end he didn't do his treatment and the relationship was unsustainable and I dumped him after 4 years of trying to make it work? Also, kids affect men's decisions to stay just as much as women. Millenials did not learn from Blink 182.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:58 PM
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You're mistaking submission with cowardice and ambivalence. Submission is a choice. A desire to follow rather than lead. It doesn't indicate an inability to lead, it indicates where the person is most comfortable. Some people would rather follow a good leader than set out to lead themselves. A submissive person who has their shit together doesn't need you to run their life but might get pretty horny while they let you do it. But healthy submission requires healthy leadership and that is somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:57 PM
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Divorce. The kids will be better off in a not toxic marriage. The fact that his wife legit changed the relationship expectations and did not make any room for him is on her. If she can't provide his needs and wants to stay in a relationship she has to give him freedom to find some happiness somewhere else. But this guy would probably be better off himself divorced. Don't stay in shitty relationships that ignore your mental health needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:54 PM
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This is fucking stupid. The nonmonogamy community would tell you that if nonmonogamy is something you need (And MANY people are not suited for nonomonogamous relationships) you should honestly structure your life around it. It's not a thing you give out as a christmas present and it's certainly not something you hand out over...boredom? The first sin of nonmonogamists is "Relationship broken: Add people" and it is so named because IT IS A TERRIBLE FUCKING IDEA.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:52 PM
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Because of the concept of sexual ownership in monogamy that's part and parcel to how men were taught to look at women. This is a mostly male phenomenon, women often assume that their partners have had sex before them and place little value on a man's virginity besides occasionally enjoying being a guy's first as a kink. Men are the ones taught to value purity and that their partner's sexual fidelity prior to them even meeting is a factor in their masculinity, like a guy who can get a girl who's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:49 PM
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I won't commit to a girl who's had or intends to have less than 10 sex partners in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:46 PM
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Actually judging by the increasing frequency of negotiated open relationships monogamy is not natural to lots of people and your attempt to label your personal perspective as "natural" in order to shame people who aren't like you and feel more secure in your own position is pretty transparent. I get it, if you accept that some people are naturally nonmonogamous that means there are people you might otherwise like to date who have a valid reason to not date you and I'm sure you don't like that. C…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:45 PM
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Men would not be dropping out of society as a whole over dating if the other parts of society were designed to support or enable the average person to live a good life. Men would not be dropping out of a society that didn't push the values that we are here to pay bills and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 07:39 PM
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All of my serious relationships have started with sex on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:48 PM
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Soulmates are a bulllshit concept. Some people are compatible, some aren't. Some are moreso than others. Unattractive to me is not compatible with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 06:01 PM
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If you can't figure it out on your own I really don't see how I can help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 05:36 AM
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No jealousy issues is a no brainer. Not progressive is too. If you are jealous or you're not progressive, please go. Monogamous is also simple. I don't date people who aren't into open relationships. The last is a common misconception. Open relationships still have rules and boundaries and if someone has a history of breaking rules and boundaries they've agreed upon, go away. A history of infidelity indicates someone who can't be trusted, including within the context of an open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 04:40 AM
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Dealbreakers...hmmm - Significant materialism - Significant Jealousy issues - Monogamous - Not progressive - Not scientifically and politically literate - Not above average in sex drive - Family isn't first life priority/doesn't enthusiastically want to be a parent - Abusive habits like gaslighting, avoiding responsibility, lying, and hostile emotional manipulation - Addiction of any kind - Unaddressed mental illness - History of infidelity (specifically violating agreements within the relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 08:37 PM
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Radical feminism is a hate group comprised of cis privileged women who want to deny trans existence because they are triggered by men. TERFs are conservatives in feminist clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 07:09 PM
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Yeah nooooooooo. This is one of the many examples of Red Pill falling flat on it's face. Clubbing girls are by far the minority and most girls do not partake in that lifestyle. By far the actual minority. Lived in Austin. Most of the girls between 18 and 25 go to sixth street a few times a year, a small subset goes a few weekends a month. Hence why you can fit most of the bars people go to on three streets in downtown Austin and they're still not always crammed except for Friday and Saturday nig…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 04:13 PM
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You'd do better putting that money into a therapist to help you with any internal issues you have and putting the time into just going out and talking to more women.
/r/seduction03/12/18 07:22 AM
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There is no such thing as perfect dude, only varying degrees of compatible.
/r/seduction03/12/18 07:21 AM
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I don't think women should be given leniency either. Like, I'm totally down for prosecuting Amy Schumer. I was just commenting that the laws address male violence specifically and do so for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 09:16 PM
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I think the average person needs a hell of alot of guidance before they can make good decisions and at least in America things have been as a society coming in from the outside so unbalanced and unhealthy for so long that we need training wheels on social interaction for a few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 09:14 PM
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That we're in complete agreement on. People focus too much on "getting a date" and not on dating people they actually work well with. Too desperate not to be alone in our fucked up disconnected emotionally repressed country and trying to force each other into boxes none of us really fit into. People need to look at the world like "Most of these people are people I should not personally date, I wonder who I should?"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 09:09 PM
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Men have traditionally had ownership of their partners sex lives. In the 90s and early 2000s they were still heavily teaching millenials to save it for marriage and specifically shaming girls "Save that gift for your future husband" and most men in this country were raised around the idea they were due their wife's purity. Men also have insecurity complexes that they're told to select mates around and make big life choices around. If you feel insecure about your partner's income, date someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 09:06 PM
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I used to be a catholic boy who liked nice christian girls and now I'm an atheist who likes the same lol. My ex wife was a non NPD narcissist. The kind who can love you but acts shitty still. I learned from that one, never repeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:58 PM
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Red flag in the sense that it shows me he's not someone you want to date and future partners who know about it should consider it a red flag, you know like if a dude tells that story about his breakup I would seriously reconsider anything with him. (Bi)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:52 PM
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If everyone lived how I told them to live we'd euthanize half the world so take everything I say with a grain of salt. Never give me power.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:50 PM
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I would wager a solid 40% of adult people of all genders and orientations are helpless children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:43 PM
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It's not judgmental attitudes like that, hostility and lazy generalizations and evidence of being an adult child in an emotional maturity sense are all red flags that we tell women to avoid or seriously consider if they're worth it in men. Fair's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:42 PM
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Yeah no. No that doesn't mean it happened more. The factual history of rape IS THAT it happened more. Rape being male perpetrated is not a conclusion it is documented fact. That's some basic level research I am not doing for you. Do your research.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:40 PM
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I didn't say love was enough the entire point of my post was don't stay if you have a real issue just don't be a fucking douche about it and own your reactions instead of blaming them on other people like a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:38 PM
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If you wanna go there that consent exists the moment you take your drivers license and the contract exists thereafter. Consent to police procedure also different than consent for sex, sorry. Learn about contract law or I'll just nuance it out for you and make your comparisons continue to be stupid. Rape laws that favor women exist because rape perpetration favors men. Get over it. I'm not against prosecuting female rapists. I'm against making the laws any more lenient on men than they already ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:38 PM
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Oh so you're a troll. Ok blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:30 PM
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Wanna know a secret? Americans have a problem with respect. The boomers got shafted in alot of ways. One of them was the widespread new parenting trend. The start of "cry it out" and the end of parents being their children's teachers thanks to school systems really being big after world war 2. Children two hundred years ago learned to survive from their parents. Every parent had a role in teaching their children to exist. Boomers didn't get that, but parents still had authority. Authority way ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:20 PM
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Uhh, that wasn't stating an opinion, person. That is what has happened. That is history. Rape laws have been established primarily to combat heterosexual male perpetrated rape. I am not saying women can't and don't sexually assault people, or that they should not be held responsible. I am saying that the laws factually DO in the present time slant towards the prosecution of men because men factually do perpetrate more rape than women and have throughout history and the laws reflect the reality, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:06 PM
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You're just as bad at generalizing as the manosphere that you quoted. You didn't talk about privilege, or about societal conditioning. You didn't talk about real problems men had. Nothing about your post is feminist and that makes you gross too. Ugly, short, fat, and broke men are "just as bad, probably worse" tells me you have zero ability to actually judge character in any way and are just as comfortable justifying generalizing people based on nothing but your own emotional experience as the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:01 PM
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Cause you have an inherent bias that causes you to make assumptions about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:46 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:45 PM
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lol exactly how? ​
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:18 PM
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This is where I fall out on that. Being judgmental makes you the asshole. Disgust for high body counts is learned. Taught concept in our society. Cultural and passed down. Some people are not like and cannot relate to other people to degrees that cause innate discomfort. I'm a nonmonogamous person and I can't date monogamous people. I understand that better than most. Lots of men have bad reactions to it and then slut shame their partners because of their bad reactions. They blame partners for r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:17 PM
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I'll agree she had her own communication issues and from what I have read did not assert any clear boundaries, opting for nonverbal communication with someone who clearly responded correctly when communication was explicit. I would not have supported her bringing charges against him. He did not have the criminal intent to override her consent. He was just as clear as she was and they missed each other like fucking idiots tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:13 PM
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Jesus fucking christ Amy Schumer gave an inspirational speech about raping someone in college. What timeline are we on? What the actual fuck? :Edit: This is why I advocate including consent in comprehensive sex education and starting it in 6th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:06 PM
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What the fuck. I disliked her comedy before but she absolutely raped that guy if the article is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:02 PM
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Not me, I fully support shaming women who are manipulative or who use alcohol to get laid the way men do, and prosecuting them if sexual assault happens. The laws slant towards men not to address some meta concept of equality, but to address factual reality. Men commit lots of sexual asssault. Men do so and have done so in large part because other men excuse it and justify it and blame the woman. Men who are not rapists enable men who are because they disrespect women in similar ways and want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:48 AM
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Yeah no. His emotional experience became irrelevant when he started being a douche about it. Full stop. Don't like the new rules don't play the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:45 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:33 AM
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People are often not prepared to find out their significant other is significantly sexually wilder than they are and it causes serious insecurity, especially in straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:32 AM
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Hmm. I will go ahead and say that people with higher N counts are naturally more likely to want sex partners outside of marriage in any gender. As someone who has a high N count because I am not monogamous, who seeks people who are likewise slutty and not monogamous, the people I date and myself are people who don't do so hot in monogamy and I think that enforcing monogamy as a default isn't healthy for anyone who isn't strictly monogamous. Should be an option. I don't think not being monogamous…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:30 AM
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Even if not true as one of the most bluepilled people here narcissistic women like this do exist and rather than generalize women about her people attracted to women should simply take note and avoid people who act anything like this in the future. Straw woman or not this is a pretty effective demonstration of narcissistic perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:25 AM
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Everyone please take note of this. You want feminist criticism of feminists? This is a selfish sex partner who you should avoid. This is the kind of person I run like hell in the opposite direction from. Casual or otherwise. Anyone who is less self conscious with a stranger than with someone they care about is someone who exists in relationships with emotional dynamics that are unhealthy and that you want no part of. Let this person have their god awful borderline narcissistic tinder hookups and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:21 AM
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Because operating a vehicle and issuing a verbal contract (consent) are two entirely different situations that have nothing to do with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:18 AM
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Men in their current form on average need to be forced into change. The damage done to relationships is a necessary part of teaching the average man boundaries and respect. You don't act right, you no longer get to participate at all, period. That's the goal. Ultimately, you're not entirely wrong. Damage has been done. Very much on purpose. No longer are women taking up the job of emotionally maturing young boys into men. No longer are women taking up the role of mother in romantic relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:14 AM
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https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/tix_dis.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:04 AM
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I don't know who mattress girl is and I don't know what about a woman who killed her abuser and became an activist on the backside has relevance to this discussion. Aziz ansari's accuser has a valid point and just goes to show you should have explicit consent conversations with new partners and that ye olden days of "The boy initiates until he gets a no or gets slapped" need to be done and over with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:02 AM
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Or more simply you take a page out of modern feminism's book and you stop fucking engaging with women who act like that. Shun abusers and adult children of all genders 2018.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:41 AM
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They don't. That isn't like a permanent state. People can alter behavior, because that's what this is. Chooseable behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:33 AM
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I mean, so far every woman who's wanted to have sex with me has and I like variety in people I sleep with. Works well on men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:24 AM
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I talk openly about sex with the people I fuck and bring up boundaries at the same time as I'm asking about kinks and preferences. Anything can be flirting if you know how to talk to women and flirting keeps them excited enough to bridge you happily through all kinds of structural conversations about consent lol. A little charm goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:53 AM
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lol yeah that's the argument. Feel free to disagree, you're not the target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:51 AM
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Because opinions like mine are shaping legislative policy now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 03:32 AM
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Correct lol don't make it her problem beyond breaking up. If he hadn't been disrespectful and hadn't just like cut off contact and disrespected her he's allowed to quietly do whatever he wants. It's the blame, the directed judgment, and the hostility that are out of place here. Not the leaving. You react how you react. And if you take every bit of slut shaming away you can still have a perfectly valid reaction of pure discomfort because you found out someone is utterly unlike you in ways that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:29 AM
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He is free. No one is forcing him to do anything. Except that he got bad feedback because we collectively frown on that behavior. You have every right to be that way in theory. When you do, lots of us have every right to say "Fine, be that over there" That is of course the innate threat of feminism. We're establishing social standards of our own which include treating men who act like this like men who exhibit what we consider to be glaring red flags and potential dealbreakers on our side. That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:16 AM
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You missed the point, let me explain. In terms a therapist would put it to you, emotions are always valid and sometimes justified. His reaction was valid. Real for him, and he has to deal with it somehow. The way he chose to deal with it, blaming her for the reaction, was wrong. That is childish. It is not her fault that this made her incompatible with him in some way. She did nothing wrong. But the way he put it was intensely disrespectful. He was disgusted. His disgust was a valid emotion, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 02:05 AM
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Yeah I know but I actually do lol promise. And not how dare he I'm not up in arms about it that's just objectively what you would describe that as. The emotional reaction of a child. I'm not blaming the child for being a child, but it's entirely accurate and kinda states his bias and irrationality. I thought men were supposed to be all about logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:34 AM
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RP isn't relevant to the establishment. It wasn't quarantined because Red Pill is something the establishment pays attention to much or actively wants to suppress. It was quarantined because Red Pill is a toxic community by modern social standards and those social standards exist not because of the establishment but because of pressure put on the establishment. You know, by feminism =p
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:30 AM
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Yeah I think it's a single pretty stark example that shows we need to pay and study this more and publicize the findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:28 AM
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I'm a fan of orgies and I have the most well adjusted kid I've ever met soooo... My perspective, his judgment is bullshit. Let her go if you don't like it, you have every right to be personally uncomfortable because you found out that there is a side to her that is so far and away from what you want for yourself that you can't relate to her and can't get over it. Own your reactions like an adult and dump her respectfully. "Didn't work out" There are plenty of other dudes who want to go to more o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:14 AM
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If a woman is looking for a man who will cede lead of the household I'm not for her, assuming that is part of the question. The rest is pretty standard for dating profiles over 30 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:12 AM
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Slut daughter. She'd be a chip off the old block.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:10 AM
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The science itself seems marginal at best. I don't think the correlation exists for no reason, but as the article itself states they have no causal link. Behavioral psychologists and such are starting to study the modern straight dude, especially the modern straight white dude. The modern straight white dude on average doe not like it. For most of the history of media the stories told about white men were only the stories white men chose. It's kinda funny to watch people chafe. But this article …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 05:15 AM
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I really wonder where you're getting this. Just like, as a parent and being involved in parenting circles the schools are as overcrowded as ever. I will say, being in my mid 30s I had kids in my late 20s and I have friends who are my age having their first kids. Millenials seem to be having them later pretty commonly, but then I know tons of parents in their 20s right now too. Not all of them are healthy families but what else is new, people often suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:49 AM
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I mean, if you want the basic rundown, in a healthy relationship we generalize expressions of love as people have 5 love languages. Words of affirmation, physical touch, acts of service, quality time, and gifts. People tend to have preferences and tendencies towards some of them over others. Some people are better with words, some people really like giving or receiving gifts, etc. Or you know, I'm abjectly terrible at quality time (giving and receiving) because I'm adhd but I can do acts of serv…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:45 AM
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I never paid much attention to him, the PUA community got boring back when everyone was still talking about Mystery (does he even exist anymore lol) but if you get banned from multiple countries for your rhetoric I'd tend to assume there's a good reason for it. Now if only they'd do that to Nazis so we can watch Trump not be able to leave the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 12:00 AM
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Isn't roosh the guy who got banned from multiple european countries for directly advocating that men date rape women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 08:29 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:56 AM
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Best comment thread I've ever seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 02:37 AM
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Oh, male, forgot to put it under automod
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 05:47 AM
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I feel the same way about you, stunted manchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:49 AM
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Lmao. You didn't even get my gender right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:40 AM
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The answer to your question is learn about abuse. Men have a problem. The emotional stoicism in which we're raised, especially in America, leaves men vulnerable to emotional abuse. Without having a fluent understanding of emotions, without both emotional maturity and emotional intelligence, men are walking targets. Straight guys as a monolith have a severely sub par understanding of things like gaslighting, emotional abuse, manipulation, etc. Most of the men who do not fall into that category go…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:36 AM
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lol "The way neurotypical people all identify as" dude you know nothing about my condition or me personally except that I'm outside of straight norms. If you'd said "You're bi and poly straight people are different" you'd have had the beginnings of a point. "Keep em at arms length" you're just taking shots in the dark so you don't have to think. Have fun with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 02:12 AM
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You do realize I live in a country where more than half the working population lives paycheck to paycheck with no savings, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 01:41 AM
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Lol I do understand. It's all bullshit. Hypergamy, AFBB, all of it. A few bare statistics and lots of finger pointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 01:40 AM
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Lord. You literally made an entire post blaming male behavior on women. That's all this is. "women select" dude women have not been able to select their own husbands in most societies through most of human history I don't know what you're talking about. It's frustrating to talk to people who have no historical idea that arranged marriages are historically by far the majority still because we've got thousands of years of that being widespread and less than a century of modern dating. Funny you br…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:16 PM
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You're manosphere. MRA is just older red pill and you sound exactly like half the red pill posters I've interacted with on this specific topic. So I mean, "not the same at all" is like a pair of fraternal same gender twins saying they look nothing alike. Yeah you fucking do you have the same nose, eyes, and lips. Just different head shape and hair color. Society didn't afford women an out. Medical science created abortion. Past that point, the only thing society ever should have done is fuck off…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:09 PM
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lol how are you going to encourage this. They do have that right. Lots of women do. And lots of women don't give a shit. But I'll tell you a secret. As poverty increases and inequality becomes a defining characteristic of our economy, more and more men and women live in a world where none of us have much money and interdependence is the way forward. When none of your dating pool is rich, when no one you know has more than a thousand dollars in savings, anywhere, money stops being any kind of rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 09:00 PM
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1) Culture. Men are actually the more emotionally reactive sex. Women are as a whole steadier in their moods. Men are the big emotional babies from a biological standpoint, which is part of why emotional repression on the part of men is so toxic. Instead of learning to deal with their feelings, men just try not to feel and boil over. This culture of male stoicism destroys close bonds men should have with others. 2) Yes. Men in other countries do not have alot of the rules and standards we have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 08:57 PM
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lol "If men can't check out of parenting women shouldn't be allowed to either" It's not women's fault men don't have an out if they want one. Tough shit, you're a father now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 08:20 PM
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I read that you said the answer to the OP's question was no. Did I misinterpret that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:34 PM
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Uhh. a) Men do not on the whole have higher sex drives than women. All you have to do is check for people talking about mismatch. It is equally common for women to be on the higher side of a sex drive disparity as men in healthy and equal relationships. This is a non fact. b) You listed no preferences even. You are right that dynamics favor women over men. That's what happens when men hold the economic power in the world, still. But you are citing biology as the difference with no evidence of an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:32 PM
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lol "My girlfriend is amazing" and "Women do not care about anything but what you do for them, that's my experience" are two things that don't compute. I was joking about you. How is your girlfriend amazing if she only cares about what you do for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:20 PM
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Blue Pill: Here's a bunch of sources Red Pill : NUH UHHH
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:19 PM
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Men are not a minority group lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:18 PM
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"I date shitty people, therefore women are shitty"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:13 PM
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It became mainstream in the same way "being straight" became a mainstream term when gay people began to be talked about in mainstream discourse. Cis is the opposite of trans. That's all. Think about it like saying someone is straight, except that you're saying their biological sex and assigned gender match.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:12 PM
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Yeah no. Statistically if a woman gets pregnant while on birth control Her body is one of the few that doesn't use it well enough or isn't affected by it right and thus pregnancy is still a risk to some degree She unknowingly took something that interfered, like antibiotics The birth control is not applied correctly. I know a girl who is currently suing her doctor to recover abortion and emotional distress costs because her implant was not put in correctly and it's identifiable medical malpracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:10 PM
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Yeah but I mean the idea of your presence in the room has existed far longer than the country I'm sitting in right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:59 PM
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I did. And here's the thing about the dating world. It's inequal on a basis created specifically by society and cultural attitudes that Red Pill takes for granted as like human defaults. That's what all your bunk evolutionary psychology is, trying to support the idea of biological human defaults to explain bad generalizations. The inequality in dating is social. It is developed. Influenced by biology but not determined by it I've had this argument before. With someone educated enough to actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:59 PM
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Fucked up and hurtful and often necessary these days on all sides of every gender fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 04:49 AM
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I liked protesting added to the end of this post. More people should realize this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:32 AM
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There don't have to be tbh. You're looking for arguments, I just stated facts. Can't argue with facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:31 AM
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I'm all ears. Please continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:19 AM
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Insightful. I agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:18 AM
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Yeah no. You do not need an inherent power dynamic to fuel passion, connection, or anything else. Saying that with no power dynamic you are glorified roommates is a false dichotomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 01:17 AM
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Frame is a concept that doesn't originate with red pill. I first saw it in Seddit years ago and it moved from there to RP dialogues. Frame is another word for a concept that exists all kinds of places. In the BDSM world we call it "presence" Presence is simply put your deliberate projection of personality. It's the mood you attempt to approach the world with, the perspective on self and your interactions you maintain when being social. If a therapist described it to you they'd tell you that it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 12:14 AM
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No, women who are bisexual and done with men still identify as bisexual. I know a number of them. It is also common for bisexual women to decide to be done with straight men and only date queer men because of the massive systemic problems in straight culture, especially where sex and dating are concerned. Women who are lesbians who have had sex with men tend to be women who were in denial about their orientation due to heterocentric conditioning and culture throughout their lives. They are also …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:05 PM
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Oh I see. You think there's still a middle class in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:56 PM
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lol person has reading comprehension issues and isn't embarrassed enough by them to not have the last word. That's new.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 02:21 PM
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Non sequittor is involved in argument. I wasn't making an argument as there is no argument here. The OP made a horrible leap of logic, I corrected it in a joking post meant to illustrate that this is not a topic I take seriously nor should anyone else, and here you are talking about logical fallacies. You can stop overthinking it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 02:15 PM
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Uhh obviously the "thots" are part of the working class like anyone else and the ones with the actual money are the upper class who control most of the world's resources and production. Obviously this was a comment about economic warfare between members of the working class instead of focusing efforts on making class war on the rich. Obviously this was a joke at the expense of people who think they're accomplishing anything other than being petty towards women for resentment that has nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:40 PM
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No it's used the same way. It's not bad to get good at one thing. It is bad to base your self image (your masculinity) on only one thing. I was pretty clear about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:38 PM
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/man-who-sabotaged-condoms-guilty-of-sexual-assault-top-court-rules/article17367231/ Not as cut and dried as I thought it was. A man was convicted of birth control fraud that resulted in an unwanted pregnancy. The precedent has been established for a man to accuse a woman, but there has to be an unwanted pregnancy and proof of the lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:37 PM
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This is a terrible reply that does not reflect any reality or even really understand what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:29 PM
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The concept that relationships were somehow better when one person had to take the lead and the other person had to follow. Red pill is primarily concerned with how to keep men on the upside of a power dynamic during dating in a world where more than ever before you have to create such inequalities because they do not exist. It's all about gaming a system that isn't supposed to be gamed to get an advantage that isn't healthy for anyone to maintain. This fundamental idea informs their entire pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:26 PM
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Women are way more informed about relationship dynamics and how a healthy relationship should work than they were 10 years ago. It's nice cause instead of having to teach every girl I date how to have an argument without being mean to each other I just get to break up with any woman who hasn't already learned that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:22 PM
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I've never gone more than a week without having sex with anyone dating or hookup. Everyone I am interested in is easy and I prefer women with higher n counts for dating. I won't seriously date a woman who isn't into swinging in a "yes lets do that after we've been together a year or two and keep doing it" kinda way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:18 PM
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Your question is stupid but the answer to the title is absolutely yes. We have seen that sex rates fall as comprehensive sexual education rises because teens faced with the full, informed adult choice to have sex often decide not to and teens who can't make the full adult choice because they do not understand it have sex at proven higher rates. So as such we should act quickly to initiate comprehensive sexual education starting in probably 5th or 6th grade so that by the time they're old enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:17 PM
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Hmm. Any point in time you can point to when women controlled less than 50% of the assets worldwide. So, basically, the entire history of property in the human species.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:13 PM
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Here's how you divide this one out. If you are giving a woman an orgasm she does not want, that is toxic. If you are giving a woman an orgasm she does want, it is not. Therefore building your masculinity on consensual sexual exchanges where you do something for your partner they like and want you to do again is not toxic in any way. However, building your masculinity on only one thing, no matter what that one thing is, is toxic, so diversify. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:10 PM
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They aren't exaggerated and trans issues have become a sticking point because transgender children go through hell if not allowed to transition, the medical establishment is 100% behind trans rights and trans issues, and the resistance to it is an intensified form of the same bigotry other LGBT people have faced and have seen strides made in recent years. Trans people have fewer rights than the rest of us gays, so we're trying to fix that and that's part of why things are loud right now. The oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:08 PM
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In Canada lying about birth control is a form of rape. I don't know about other countries, I know the US doesn't currently have those laws, I wish we did. No gender bias on that law. Lying about birth control is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 01:01 PM
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There's nothing to challenge here. You're just pretending most women have to want men. There are shitloads of gold star lesbians in the world you just don't travel in their social circles cause us gays stick together.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 12:59 PM
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Depends on the people. But yes open relationships are often sustainable if things are open and communication is good. Lots of people do not have hangups about swinging and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:35 AM
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Yes. Don't know what it matters, what it means is that I won't date anyone I do not personally consider to be attractive and my standards for who is considered attractive are a bit strict. I don't rate numbers, you are or you aren't, and most people aren't. I don't fake shit, I simply do not talk about appearance to anyone, ever, unless I am attracted to them. I do not comment on most people's appearance. "If you don't have anything nice to say" and all that. My version of body positivity is no …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:28 AM
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This is very stupid. By far the most common mentality when watching porn is to imagine you're in the room watching it live instead of watching it on a screen. Voyeurism is by far the most common kink people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:25 AM
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I think it's yet another example of the lower socioeconomic classes screwing each other instead of the ones with the actual money tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 11:19 AM
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Depends on the law change but I am all for legislating against fraud. In any case where a woman can be proven to have lied to a man about him being the father and be found out to have cheated and had another man's baby I think that at the very least you're talking hefty emotional damages in civil court in addition to expenses incurred as a part of "fatherhood". When it comes to criminal fraud, the issue is primarily that criminal fraud is laid out usually in terms of contracts and there really i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 05:26 AM
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Depends on what you classify as bad behavior, so I'm going to say no because this question is a stupid "gotcha" question that pretends I can't approve entirely of this specific law and disagree with whatever idiocy you have planned to respond with. However if you have an actual men's issue to address feel free. You want to talk about a law setting out that judges are required to default to 50/50 custody without a reason to remove custody from one or the other party to protect fathers rights I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 04:10 AM
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No, men valuing women for sex is created by a trained dehumanization of an entire gender. That is not an immutable fact, and the mere fact that you stated that that non sequittor of logic, that completely unconnected line of thought between "Men have a desire to have sex with women" and "Men place primary value of women on their sexuality" shows me you are neither educated nor intelligent enough to participate in any real discussion on this topic. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:39 AM
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1) Because "men have the power for relationships" comes from a time when society was structured to prevent women from being financially independent of men in the world. For the longest time the provider role was necessary because men restricted women with laws enough to prevent them from providing for themselves easily or at all. 2) Because "women have the power for sex" is a heteronormative concept that has no application to women who aren't straight and is a direct result of transitory social …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:21 AM
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Because all of society has been structured around these maladaptive behaviors. If you and everyone you will ever meet has been conditioned to respond to sex in certain ways, to treat dating interactions in certain ways, then certain things will be effective given those dynamics, even if none of it is healthy for anyone at any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:17 AM
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The point of bye felipe is to point out the community conversations going on about bad male behavior dude. It's to point out that women are talking about these things and sharing how guys act and collectively avoiding guys like that. And you're missing something. You call standards artificially inflated. You say that because men do not match the standards and it's like "what guy do you actually want" and red pill focuses on looks almost exclusively with status being a middling second and ignores…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/18 12:16 AM
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The world must be pretty scary if you have to simplify it down that much to wrap your head around it. Your generalization is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 11:30 PM
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lol your overgeneralizations miss the point entirely. And TRP does have it's own philosophy. One that is built around men having power they don't really have anymore, one rooted in maladaptive behaviors and coping mechanisms and low emotional intelligence and emotional maturity on the part of men. Red Pill is designed around "What if men refuse to change" and the answer to that, again, is that women will more and more refuse to date, have sex with, or procreate with Red Pill type men until you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 11:02 PM
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Because enough people refuse to follow them that we have to make a law. If men weren't by and large giant children looking to marry their mother and be taken care of by her while fucking her in the straight American dating community we wouldn't have to do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 09:44 PM
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Wealth, not in my experience and no from what I've read. Wealth plays nothing into sexual attraction. Career? Lots of careers attract female attention. Be a cop, a military dude, a professional photographer, or anything else that scratches any itch they have for roles and you can see lots of sexual attraction. College professors don't have everyone after them, but there are always students in the class that are into fucking their teachers. Everyone has fantasies. If she likes suits and wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:39 PM
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lol "Hey wanna see my dick" "Sure!" "*dickpick*" is pretty unambiguous and if you don't have that don't send one it's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:33 PM
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I take it back op THIS is the dumbest post in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:32 PM
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This is the dumbest post. Slippery slope fallacy and all. Harassment is harassment. If you were in person, making a woman outraged, disgusted, and hysterical on purpose is both a potential civil tort (lawsuit involving harm) and criminal harassment. The law currently covers repeated incidents of harassment and obviously exposing yourself on purpose. I'm gonna turn it around on you. You don't get to treat people like shit on purpose and get away with it because it's online. "Taking the law down a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:30 PM
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It would take less time to find some healthy ones just because there are so goddamn few to pick from lol. Eddard Stark and Caitlin Stark are a great one. So is Rob's relationship with his wife. The relationship between Superman and Lois Lane as portrayed in modern comics and cinema is a healthy one. Tony Stark and Pepper Potts likewise grow to have what looks like a great relationship for the most part, excepting Tony's PTSD (I HAVE TO PUT THE NANOBOTS IN MY CHEST PEPPER ITS TO KEEP US SAFE) My …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:46 PM
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This isn't true. Healthy romance still has problems and can have conflict. Also, in a healthy romance story the conflict would primarily come from outside the relationship, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:41 PM
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Ok. So you want passion. Passion passion passion. Passion is one aspect of relationships. One facet. When you have been with someone for years, gotten to know them, had a healthy relationship, the relationship deepens. There are many aspects. Many facets. You can't see how much fun it is to be able to have entirely lazy laying around on the couch binge watching Big Mouth while you occasionally fuck days off. You can't see being in a relationship long enough that you genuinely need to be left alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:40 PM
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I agree with your bolded statement. That I think is entirely true. But your analysis of attraction is (as always with red pill) one dimensional and thus pretty much worthless. There are many factors to attraction and women rate them all differently, so what has changed? The changes in attraction are seen on more than just Tinder. They are seen in face to face interactions and they are seen in places which focus more on words than pictures online. In every arena of dating, across all demographics…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:33 PM
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People in today's society are wired for denial. Denial is cultivated. A lack of critical thought is cultivated. And there's an experience gap. Men far more than women do not have healthy relationship expectations. The last thing the word teaches men is what they CAN reasonably expect from a partner. The expectations the average man is conditioned to have by society are awful and wrong and absent that there's no guidance until you start entering into relationship therapy territory, often. Our fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:15 PM
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Half of women and more than half of men are completely undateable. *Bisexual
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:00 PM
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Internalized misandry would imply that men internalize the expectations of women which is not true. Men internalize the expectations of other men. That is toxic masculinity. Women internalize the expectations of men who neither understand nor can relate to their experience. This is a different process in every way. That's internalized misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:57 PM
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Known facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 04:55 PM
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You read this wrong. You said you "used alot of energy to make the conversation exciting" You can't artificially generate excitement and projecting that much energy at anyone without warming them up first is going to make them edgy and push them away. Keeping yourself rooted is forcing you to tone it down to "not overwhelming" levels and is helping other people engage with you better.
/r/seduction08/11/18 07:03 AM
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You might want to check election results. Also, Trump didn't win, Hillary lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 01:02 AM
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Oh. Well hello. Alright I'll adjust, you aren't the usual red pill party line that nature rules all, you're prepared to enter into a nature vs nurture debate. First, the bad generalization had more to do with the "hot girls vs land whales" comparison. Two somewhat unspecific categories. Fat is different to different people until you hit obesity and obesity has many contributing things that go along with it besides appearance from health to genetics to personal habits and assumptions and question…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 12:40 AM
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Hahaha what a load of bullshit Enjoy your conspiracy theories, I'm sure if you need company the flat earthers feel just like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 08:46 PM
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No it's not. This is a debate forum and Red Pillers are usually completely ignorant of modern psychology. The assertion of evo psych being valid is actually the affirmative claim that needs to be proven in this world, the fact that this board doesn't know enough psychology to understand that does not change my position one bit. Your ignorance does not flip the coin on who has to prove what dude. It just shows you are not nearly educated enough to belong in the debate and there is no reason for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 08:05 PM
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1) Men choose the hottest women over landwhales This is a bad generalization that does not reflect reality unless you are stating that men choose women who do not look obeese over women who don't. In that case, the motivations for such can vary from health perceptions to beauty perceptions and more. At the same time, you're generalizing all men in your first point which makes it automatically incorrect. Logical fallacy. Intellectually worthless. But, the trend of going away from fat people and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:52 PM
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"I bring dank shit to house parties" Also this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:38 PM
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lol I'm from Louisiana so I wanna talk to the dude who knows Creole cooking tbh. I'd come kiss her on the head and engage him on cuisine talk. Who am I kidding I am the Creole guy in your story sans accent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:37 PM
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Depends on who you ask. Straight men might say it because they want to be better than the rest of the straight men in some way, quantifiable or not. Straight women might say it because that is their personal experience that they are trying to relate, as well as the experiences of other girls they know, forming a compelling picture of men as abject losers on average. LGBT people might say it because straight men rule the world and make us the enemy and political scapegoat for their evil. The gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:34 PM
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It is not my job to educate you on accepted academic fact and scientific theory dude. This is a concept that is only debated by Red Pill and most Red Pill science is either made up BS or debunked BS quoted from decades ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:31 PM
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Ok, the fact that evolution has influenced our development is not up for debate. Evolution affecting current, every day psychology yes has been thoroughly debunked by existing facts about how mental associations work, how the brain works, etc. Evolutionary psychology is non-sequittor. It is "This seems like it might be an influence here" or "this seems like it might be there" everywhere the scientific method gets applied to it ends up with studies that cannot be reproduced or that got debunked b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 07:29 PM
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Evolutionary psychology has been mostly debunked by other psychology. Often when you see dudes here quoting it they're quoting psychologists from 40+ years ago and are completely ignorant of everything that's come up to debunk it since then because their source is cherry picked, not something they came across actually educating themselves. There's no rational challenge to your view. It is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:32 PM
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"I think those 'unmet expectations' you name are actually just unfounded fears from men who haven't interacted much with women" Hit the nail on the head ​
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:30 PM
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I'm annoying and pretentious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:24 PM
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Yeah I have. They're rare but they exists. And like, when I say I've met them, I'm bisexual. I have blown 2 12 inch dicks to completion in my life and seen in my presence a few more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:22 PM
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I am genuinely oblivious enough that if I am not interested in a girl and she's flirting I don't notice. I never notice unless I'm interested back and my ADHD mind has a reason to focus on and look for indicators of interest. I have been told I was being hit on many times to my complete surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 10:15 PM
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Because men have been conditioned to give expecting some kind of return. Because money is a privilege men have had over women since it was created and so it is part of the conditioning. Men spend money on women. That is what is expected and men with little else to offer don't know what to do besides that so they throw some money at girls hoping someone responds to the most generic and meaningless of all social gestures.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 10:12 PM
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Bullshit. Generalizations about women and hardwired are evolutionary psychology which is basically all bullshit. Some people are less monogamous or more monogamous than others. Some rare people are completely not monogamous, I think that people who are completely monogamous are just as rare and most people fall somewhere in the middle. And society is just starting to allow monogamy to not be the expected default that you're a shit person if you aren't into.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 06:37 PM
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How does it feel knowing you touched your dad's dick before your mom's pussy? This is a dumb question.
/r/seduction06/11/18 04:14 AM
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You can't even see that "do you think there are more virgins than promiscuous women" is a different question from "do you think more women are pressured into promiscuity than are repressed" so now the question has changed and this is really getting stupid. I'm not wrong, but obviously you want to move on so feel free, you're not getting it either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 03:46 AM
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I don't really know how to break it down any better to make you understand that a false dichotomy is a false comparison and it can be made false any number of ways, but one of them is taking something of objective measure and taking something subjective that can't be accurately measured... and then we get to "It's up to you to decide if there are more promiscuous women than virgins to your own standard" and I come to understand that you're asking our subjective opinions on a ratio of virgins to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 02:17 AM
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No, virgin isn't subjective. Promiscuous is. Extremely so. What's more common depends entirely on your definition of promiscuous or "High N count" or whatever. But promiscuous is generally itself more complex than just N count and involves behavior and habits. A girl who fucks a bunch of one night stands and has 50 bodies in her past and a girl who has seven fuckbuddies at the same time and an N count of 9 could both be said to be extremely promiscuous. According to an incel a woman who's had se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 01:58 AM
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You remember that rejection is not about worth it's about compatibility and if someone rejects you it's because they feel a low level of it with you.
/r/seduction06/11/18 01:33 AM
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Yeah it is. You're creating the categories "slut" and "virgin" which only have subjective significance in the first place and then asking to compare the two to determine what women are like in general. That is exactly the definition of what creating a false dichotomy is. It is not just the bad comparison, it is the creation of a pair of categories to compare and then implying that your comparison has implications beyond your subjective opinion of that comparison. That is what a false dichotomy i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 01:19 AM
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I wasn't snarking at the OP, but it's nice to know you project snark to justify the snark you go out looking to throw around on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 12:10 AM
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The idea that one of those two, repression or sexual openness, are the only two options is a false dichotomy. You're attempting to form another overgeneralization about women, that's a fallacy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/18 12:09 AM
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There is when your comments about both are chock full of logical fallacies and over generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 09:34 PM
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I wish you were intelligent enough to see the hilarious contradiction between all of the talk of women's natural state and tendencies and hypergamy and you acknowledging that the problems that exist are first world focused and thus that environment is a big enough factor to make other women's lives outside of your cherrypicked environment or study or example irrelevant. How you can't see the contradiction there is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 09:05 PM
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lol you're one of the biotruthiest posters on here and you want to discount the majority of women who exist. Sounds like a good way to frame an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 08:42 PM
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Lol that means she feels like you're a guy who won't sexually assault her if she's vulnerable around you. It's an overall good thing. Means you don't throw off "I'm looking to exploit you" vibes.
/r/seduction05/11/18 07:31 PM
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You're asking a question that depends almost entirely on societal and family context. In America you can have serious sexual repression next door to a family that gives comprehensive sex education to their kids. In other countries it can vary just as much, be more open, or be much more repressed. If you looked worldwide I would say repression is likely far more common. The sexual revolution is a western concept in many ways, and in poorer countries especially, gender roles tend to be more preval…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 07:30 PM
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As usual blackpill takes a study with some nuance and removes all of it. No discussion, just a title that's misleading. The study states that women tend to prefer those attitudes because they indicate a man is willing to invest in them. That expressions of benevolent sexism are a sign that a man is forming an emotional attachment, basically. This study shows that women are willing to accept childish, entitled behaviors from men if those behaviors indicate that he is willing to invest in her. Not…
/r/BlackPillScience05/11/18 07:24 PM
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False dichotomy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/18 06:10 PM
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Love is a word used to describe a very complex emotion. Love is a feeling that people imbue with personal meaning. Love is a feeling that grows as a person experiences healthy love and deepens with your understanding and appreciation of the person you love. This is how it functionally works in your brain. Some people never have a pattern for healthy love in their lives. Their parents are a mess, other family is the same, abusive patterns abound in all directions. Some people are isolated in an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 08:20 PM
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If you are a dude with a hot trophy wife who's head is empty, most women will treat you like the kind of man who needs a manageable trophy. There's an inherent disrespect for men who date women who are significantly less intelligent than them that is much more powerful than any respect or other positive attention you might get for dating a hot girl. If a man dates an awful woman who's controlling and assholish, he is perceived as weak. One thing I will say about women, they are just as much prey…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 07:37 PM
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Masculinity and confidence not only aren't synonymous, they don't even have a correlation. I've literally met dudes with 12 inch dicks who felt insecure and small cause their girlfriend has a 14 inch dildo a little thicker than them. Masculinity is not a path to confidence. What you need is self love. You're trying to acquire confidence by obtaining things you think others will value. Unfortunately in the real world individuals will value those qualities unpredictably and in varying amounts. AND…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 04:50 AM
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No I can't say there is. I've been with girls who had money and girls who didn't, girls who were career oriented and those who weren't. Like if we're talking compatible enough for me to ask them out? No real pattern except that I don't tend to rub circles with rich people and that's not something about my life I have any desire to change and I avoid materialism like the plague. Exceptions made for collectors, because hey if you wanna fund like a magic habit or really like collecting vintage pict…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 04:40 AM
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Low education, yeah. And I don't mean formal education like having a degree, I mean like genuinely uneducated and uninformed. One of my gfs hasn't taken an hour of college classes yet, she decided to work after high school and got into retail management and doesn't mind it. But then 14 bucks an hour goes alot further in Texas than it does other places. She likes the reliable 40 hour work week. But she is highly self educated. Can have high level discussions in politics, science, economics, and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 02:25 AM
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Assuming everything else lines up my standards are pretty high. I only date girls prettier than me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 01:39 AM
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Easier? Like across the world who knows. Individual countries vary so highly that some places it's awful to be both, some one or the other. In general though, men are privileged above women when it comes to living independently in most places in our world. Men have more opportunities, come by respect more easily, get paid more, etc. But male privilege has it's limits. Where any woman can look at almost any man and see life advantages he has, most men can look at other men and say the same thing.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 01:36 AM
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Taking a dick down a peg is sexy, but so is thoroughly winning an argument and refusing to back down when you're right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 12:56 AM
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Wow. Sexist much? Let me break this down for you. 1) I was talking about how they behave in arguments. Like, where it's already an argument on both sides. Yes, they're argumentative in arguments. It is your perception that this is a bad thing in a woman because men act like this all the damn time all over everywhere and it's normal but in a woman it's "unwomanly" or something. 2) Combative is your contextless assumption based on personal bias. 3) It's not my fault you can't handle an argument du…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 12:55 AM
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P.S. "Thanks for playing" really? What are you sixteen?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 12:50 AM
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lol I know what the OP said. I like how your little brain can't wrap it's head around conversation. You're like a chat bot someone loosed on Reddit. "The only thing more useless than your comment is my commentary on your comment, but lets not talk about that right now I need to 1up someone on the internet!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 12:49 AM
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Oh intelligence and charisma are totally show off worthy qualities in a partner. I love watching my girlfriends take someone apart in an argument while they look at me like "aren't you gonna tell your women to settle down" and I'm like "nope!" Also, it is a bigger status symbol to other men if she's hot, but women judge you far more on who you date than what she looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:11 PM
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If you had read the OP you might have noticed I was replying to the OP's personal perceptions of a parade of women and not anything in the article itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:10 PM
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Try to keep in mind that just because you see a parade doesn't mean you see the entire country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:02 PM
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1) Just from the title, it's sad how men losing their assigned gender role in society leaves them aimless. But projecting that onto women is, well, projection. The concept that you need to be aimed is itself anti-critical thought. Figure your own life out. 2) Your concepts of "wall" and "decreasing SMV" have little to do with how most people live their lives or make decisions day to day. The rare exceptions of people who want to run out their hotness with casual sex are not how most women work. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:00 PM
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Sex to me is a few things. BP bi dude Need fulfillment first off. It's a a pretty significant method to fulfill emotional intimacy needs, it's a way to vent stress or just dispose of sex drive. Communication second. It might be "I love you" or it might be "You look hot today" or it might be "I want you to make funny noises, go!" but touch and acts of service are two of my top love languages (giving and receiving) and sex folds those in nicely. Any meaning beyond that depends on the situation. Ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 04:58 AM
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Because it's used as a place women put men and in truth it's a place men put themselves. If she doesn't want to fuck you, get over it. If you're throwing energy down a hole with a girl who clearly expresses a desire to be friends, it's your adult fault. If you're associating with people who exploit you for resources giving nothing back while gas-lighting you to keep it going that isn't women that's a narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 04:48 AM
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Lord. Ok so you are functionally not looking for the same relationship most people are looking for. So new question. Most men and most women are not looking to get "the only things you can't get from male friends with less effort" and it really boils down to women are not people in your life, they serve a purpose or they don't exist in your orbit. Why would you talk about "the position of the husband" when you have specific issues that are definitely minority issues and not reflective of the rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 01:14 AM
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No idea. Definitely has alot of enthusiasm though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 01:07 AM
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Ugh. Gross. We disapprove of that in the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 01:07 AM
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I don't see much of a difference. If anything, girls who fucked around in high school and stopped are more likely to have guilt complexes about sex and I'd sooner date someone who started in high school and never stopped, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 01:04 AM
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Privilege makes you weak. Privilege is an automatic advantage, whether noticed or not, that gives you if nothing else one less thing to worry about in life. Remove that privilege from someone who has had it their entire life and they are not prepared to handle it. Men used to have the privilege to take advantage of women sexually not only without legal consequence, but often without any form of social consequence either. That was a fact. Marital rape used to be legal. Men do not have that privil…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 01:02 AM
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In a society that emphasizes beauty in everything from over sexualization of women in the entertainment industry to advertising and common media, is it any surprise that as women become more equal as men women begin to become as vain about dating as men have, in a socially reinforced "I don't like this but I don't really have a choice" kinda way. Women are not immune to toxic social dynamics that arise from any number of places on an individual level. Do you know what the depression statistics a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:50 AM
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It doesn't ring true. It's a generalization made to express that a husband is getting less value from his wife than guys who fucked her casually. And to imply that women only align with men to gain exciting sex or financial support. Projection on the part of shallow, immature men who cannot imagine women being deeper than they are or seeing life in a different way than they do. Solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:45 AM
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The concept that a husband getting commitment and love and such is getting more than dudes she hooked up with is so backwards I don't know how to tell you that that is what's wrong with your whole perspective. You're valuing a woman based on what kind of deal she's offering you. Women don't fall in love with and be emotionally faithful to the art of the deal dude. You attract shitty, calculating women when you act like that. The only thing you the prospective husband care about is the sex. And n…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:39 AM
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Huh. I'm a blue pill man and while I do not agree with Cavill's fear as being justified in the world, I think it's valid and exists for a rational reason. It's still real and it is a fear that men are having to deal with and I think the response to his words was poor. I think that this is a thing worth discussing and that his fear should have been validated and explained. A huge part of that fear is the gap in communication between men and women and both sides have personal responsibility to tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:35 AM
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Because you're creating a false dichotomy. It's not "Oh you're allowed to do it" because an off color sexual joke at work can get you fired even if you are genuinely trying to entertain. I am not stating I have a personal problem with that idea, lol the guy I'm referencing was stupid and deserved to be fired for more than that. But that's what pulled the trigger. And the point there is that "social consequences" come in many forms. Free speech is a legal distinction, and men have had both free s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/18 12:22 AM
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I agree with this post completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:53 PM
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Yeah like what's the not superficial difference between someone who fucked alot only in high school vs someone who fucked around alot only in college. How does that specific difference even affect me as a man who wants to date two girls with those two specific backgrounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:49 PM
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Oh it totally sounds like some sixteen year old watched a few too many bound gangbangs and doesn't understand that there's a consent discussion in advance of every one of those that includes all the male actors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:48 PM
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That is just not true. Most gay and bi dudes are not into straight dudes that is a minority fetish that the rest of us do not encourage. One of the first thing gays tell other gays is don't fall in love with the straight girl or guy it won't go well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:46 PM
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It is definitely partially conditioned. I also see tons of women seeking sex and having spontaneous sex drives, the more women have access to spontaneous sex the more it arises. I also think that studies are biased by straight relationships some. Unhealthy patterns exist more in the heterosexual world than anywhere else when it comes to intimacy between partners. I think that labeling women as responsive on average is as premature as labeling all men violent because of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:43 PM
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Gay men are also repressed in ways that being openly gay and having gay sex puts you outside of any expected role so far as mainstream society and it's straight focus goes. Once you're that far outside the rules, things look differently. Straight women aren't outside the rules. They aren't outside of societal roles just by wanting sex. Life is different on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:41 PM
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What's the manifest difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:39 PM
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I tend to prefer dating women with high counts. Much more likely to be kinky, much more likely to be open to stuff. Most submissives aren't inexperienced past their very early 20s. I've only actually had sex with two virgins and one was a dude lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:37 PM
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Not a chance in hell. Anyone I date better be about being home more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:31 PM
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D) "Friends first like you don't want dating pressure right now and need to take anything slow or friends first like you're not really interested but open to seeing if I'm more appealing later?"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:28 PM
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I think that she took a ton of real problems and then swerved off on some biotruth bullshit every bit as bad as red pill ever has. Men are taught too be aggressors. Men are taught they are less of a man if they are less aggressive. I don't think men subjugated women so they could establish financial dominance over women. I think men established dominance over women because men wanted power over other men and if you give a man power in his house, he will often not notice losing it in other places…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:36 PM
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lol "Not allowed" Here's how this works. In the past, women had no real social pressure to bring to bear to effect change in their immediate lives. Men collectively did not allow that. Women who went outside of male established social order (the people you said have tics) and rejected common social conditioning were often ostracized. If you've studied history, witch burnings were an example of such ostracism, back when the Catholic Church really had power in the world. In less serious examples t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:06 PM
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I just about lost it at the anal callout though he's not incorrect about making a girl spread her ass just purely to be dominant and make her display herself for you. Two things can be right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:40 PM
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I was just thinking "This totally works for me but I'm half gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:39 PM
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You're looking at one facet of a diamond and thinking it's the whole gem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:36 PM
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I don't think that needing a narrative is the opposite of having a spontaneous sex drive in any way. Gender studies show that as equality increases in a country women behave more like men. Are more assertive, seek their own drives, do not wait to be acted upon. Your generalization is way too broad. The internet is full of women expressing constant, spontaneous sex drive. It's not universal, but it's not a minority of expression either. Wanting a narrative, wanting an interesting meta to sexual s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:32 PM
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I don't think many men know what is good for them in many areas of life. I think the same can often be said of women. But this post is a trainwreck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:18 PM
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Not at all. Seems like it's harder in straight culture, to be fair. Gay dudes make easy friends. Openly bi dudes too. Straight dudes have...challenges. There's an inherent competition, often. Doesn't mean straight men don't have friends, but straight male culture is not built to allow dudes much emotional support or expression. It fits some straight men very well and others not at all and the not at alls are often left out or encouraged to change their core selves because they aren't good enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 07:10 PM
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Huh it keeps disappearing Its supposed to be blue
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 07:06 PM
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I have to say I am a gender nonconforming man in many ways and girls do seem to enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 10:53 AM
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1) People go outside of shitty relationships, often. And lots of people exist in shitty relationships. 2) Monogamy is not universal of any gender. Enforced monogamy is going to result in cheating. Men cheat too. Tons. Cheating is common. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america I googled that really quick, seems accurate and other results back up that men are overall more likely to cheat on their spouses than women are. So any red pill reasons for women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 10:52 AM
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Not true. It's a majority but not vast. There are far more switches out there than you have any idea and only in hetero relationships are things well, heteronormative. Women who aren't straight work way differently than the women you're used to in their day to day lives. Once you're outside mainstream society, you're outside it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 09:14 PM
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Not true. It's a majority but not vast. There are far more switches out there than you have any idea and only in hetero relationships are things well, heteronormative. Women who aren't straight work way differently than the women you're used to in their day to day lives. Once you're outside mainstream society, you're outside it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/18 09:14 PM
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I'm not conflating them, assuming someone's submission is a form of emotional abuse in the BDSM community and you are assuming the subimssion of women as natural. Towards every woman who's not naturally like that, you're invalidating them as people and telling them they're wrong. You said the sub community is mostly women. It is actually true that the BDSM community itself is mostly women. Many doms do not participate in it. Many male subs do not participate in it. Cis men by and large participa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 01:41 AM
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Women desire height because it has been linked with sexual attractiveness in the collective imagination. Fat used to be attractive, a sign of wealth and privilege, or if you go further back a sign of fertility. Standards like that change over history and with cultural context. Explain to me why some tribes in africa think a longer neck is attractive to the point of stretching it with jewelry? But your premise that tall means safe to women is flawed. That is a completely unsupported conclusion an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 01:12 AM
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No, foreveralones have a BP frame. They own their shit and try to support each other and find a way out. Blackpill is red pill taken to an extreme too far for any sane person to follow, that's all. They cite many of the same studies and pull worse conclusions than even yall do. They stand on shaky science and generalizations so stupid I can't explain them not seeing their their own bullshit any way other than Blackpill is Red Pill minus fifty IQ or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:34 AM
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You're projecting. The first quote is a true observation about the world from a woman's perspective. Men outwardly value a woman's contribution less. Men use pregnancy to justify paying women less. Men treat stay at home mothers like freeloaders (commonly generalized about in this very sub) and men do not treat women with the same respect and right to agency that they treat other men. Women when they have these dichotomies are trained to be deferential to men. Men when they have these dichotomie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:30 AM
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Yeah but "everyone is of equal worthlessness" is like the second basic principle to nihilistic thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:09 AM
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You don't know what emotional safety is. Male gender roles do not make women feel safe. Stability provided can, but that is the stability itself not the man that makes them feel safe. When women say they want a safe man they mean a man who is mature and emotionally intelligent who they don't have to worry about abuse, gaslighting, invalidation, and dismissal from. You yourself are prey to misoginistic generalizations and incorrect thinking. You label cowardice and submission the same and they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:08 AM
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Sounds about right
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:45 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:42 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:52 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:52 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:43 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:40 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:37 PM
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Depends entirely on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:35 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:33 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:33 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:33 PM
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I've known a few MGTOWs in real life and they match 100% with what I've seen in online communities. What I see in online communities is Red Pillers who want to disengage from women instead of figuring out how to come out on top in hook up culture. You all generalize to the point of turning cogent observation and verifiable facts into ludicrous ideas and harmful beliefs (harmful to both yourselves and others) Just like Red Pill you take out the nuance and try to oversimplify the world. The strawm…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:32 PM
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Ok. And who wrote that social contract dude? The answer is other dudes with more power created a world where men worked themselves to death for other men and were rewarded with a woman to have power over. "Give a man power in his house and you can take it from him in the world" is the basic idea and it worked really goddamn well. Traditional gender roles were a trap for everyone but they were male created and male enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:17 PM
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Ok. And who wrote that social contract dude? The answer is other dudes with more power created a world where men worked themselves to death for other men and were rewarded with a woman to have power over. "Give a man power in his house and you can take it from him in the world" is the basic idea and it worked really goddamn well. Traditional gender roles were a trap for everyone but they were male created and male enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:16 PM
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I love how your post tacitly endorses slavery like it makes more sense the other way with people being owned. Really shows your bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:54 PM
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Weezer isn't my thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:49 PM
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I'd have to read his book to really break anything down but Eric Berne also died in 1970. His work is far out of date, lacks many modern scientific inclusions into the psychological body of knowledge we have now. Eric Berne knew nothing about the brain to help him with the understanding of the mind, not like we know today. He knew nothing about neurotransmitters and such. About the actual biological side of emotions and personality. Not evolutionary biology related, but in the moment internal br…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:37 PM
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Oh thats how that works. Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:25 PM
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What's it like to get naturally selected?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:32 AM
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When you pretend you know what other people are thinking, does it bother you in the back of your head that you're making shit up or does it just fly by?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:38 AM
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No. Irrational beliefs and behavior conditioned from the outside don't change women's inherent value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:34 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:32 PM
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I would not date either of those women. Serious materialism is an immediate dealbreaker but so is expecting me to be emotionally constipated. I take woman C, someone who isn't an emotional child and isn't materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:28 PM
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This. Mind games telegraph that you're a child to any woman who's an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:16 PM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:14 PM
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I don't think it's harmful at all, and it's insanely common. Most people won't marry someone they haven't had sex with these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:13 PM
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I don't understand how this is difficult. You can be conditioned to believe untrue things. There are multiple mental illnesses that center around being conditioned to see or believe things that aren't true. And more than that, you can be conditioned to feel things even if you don't believe them. This is what neurosis is and it's a big academic topic to get into. You're mistaking belief in inferiority for inferiority. There is no link between the two. Women don't feel inferior because they natura…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:13 PM
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Actually the truth is that women have it better and you feel like you get to say when is good enough. Your measure is irrrational. "Better than they've had it most of history" is an incredibly low hurdle to jump over, but that isn't what matters to you because the truth is you just want women to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:12 PM
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This is basically a nonsense reply. Evolutionary psychology is pretty much all horse shit fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 12:09 AM
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They've always charged ten bucks for membership. I joined in 2001 and it was ten bucks then. Unless that's changed? I logged into my account for the first time in a few years to look up the latest skyrim modding thread and reinstall that but I haven't ventured out into the rest of the site to see what it's like now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 07:47 AM
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In Ye Olden Times on Something awful we had a goon virginity megathread that was about trying to get guys like that dateable. Varying successrates. There were some dudes who went from virgins to respectably dateable people. There were some toxic dudes that I am surprised never ended up in the news. And there were a bunch of guys who were just too stubborn to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 07:25 AM
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I thought real men weren't lazy and had good work ethics
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 04:13 AM
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This is what you do in your little friend group and that's fine. Most of the world has ceased to work this way and like there's no way to apply what is essentially a minority view on masculinity across other men and have an impact like fifteen years ago because you do not have a significant majority of men following along and enabling it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 04:11 AM
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We haven't been saved from shit the country is on fire top to bottom. I will say I think a solid 3/4 of Democrats would have laid back and patted themselves for four years saying "We did it, we saved the world" and the country would still be on fire if she'd been elected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 12:24 AM
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Ahh, you begin to understand what class systems have actually been through much of history. Sanitized slavery. It is completely relevant because with a class system you can have tiered slavery. These people are free compared to those people, so they think they aren't slaves while kings murder and tax and invade and conscript at whim. These things are historical realities. Like, you're ignorant of it, but women's history is an academic topic. Women have spent most of the history of "property" as …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 11:56 PM
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How is that? I started growing a lumberjack beard at 17 but the rest has always been what I would consider below average hairy for guys and I honestly like it this way. What's it like to be an actual bear?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:58 PM
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Wow. Pretending there aren't specific classes of property. Pretending there aren't varying rules governing the use of property. How about instead of an example of killing your wife, I instead explain that there are forms of property, like government easements designed for road or utility expansion, where you are not in fact allowed to destroy your own property! Houses protected as historical landmarks you can buy and own so long as you maintain them as regulated! Women were a special class of pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:54 PM
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Its been a day, ill get back to you tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:51 PM
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Good lord. No. Jesus Christ no. I am HEAVILY non monogamous. I am in a poly relationship that is completely sexually open. We can all fuck who we want. We don't fuck outside of our triad much. It's like, it's there when we want it, we go through spells. A few months of wanting to play, a few months of ehh I have no desire to go out lets watch Netflix and cuddle. This is not a life for everyone. I have tried to date someone who was monogamous. It was miserable, honestly. I was monogamous with her…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 07:13 AM
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An honestly scary amount of truth here compared to most red pill posts. You do have the emotional involvement part right, though seen through a frankly predatory lens. If I cared to fake my reactions in a relationship I could do what you describe. When I really like a girl she tends to like me back. I pick well and I know what I like in women and what kind of women like guys like me. And I've spent a decade learning to be a respectful, woke dom so there's also that. Give women what they want, gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 07:04 AM
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I think your basic premise is wrong. Kindness is a desirable attribute but it is not inherently romantic. However, kindness from someone you have chemistry with and desire gets an attraction tagged onto all the associations because you are attracted to them and kindness both logically and emotionally can be a sought after trait. But kindness with someone you are not attracted to is something that brings on friendship, potentially. Kindness is not a sexually charged aspect of human interaction so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 06:55 AM
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Is he not? I think he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 05:56 AM
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That's the thing. Ok so you brought up the word faggot. That's not illegal. You cannot be sued or prosecuted unless you say it enough times that the pattern of repeated action crosses harassment lines. You can call literally anyone a faggot one time almost consequence free. Almost. There used to be no social consequences for saying certain things. You could say the N-word and while some people would be uncomfortable usually no one would say anything. There were social consequences for saying oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 05:32 AM
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Look up "gender identity" and "gender role" and report back when you get why they're different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:57 AM
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Because being a hipster is in no way about your gender identity. Being a hipster is like being punk or emo only dumber. Wtf is this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:32 AM
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Oh ok. Yeah that's mainstream feminism. I see the difference in perspective. You say limiting free speech but feminists aren't even trying to get hate speech actively outlawed. What you mean is responding in kind when it comes to tone and intensity to things we don't like. Or restricting harassment. The catcalling argument isn't a free speech argument it's a criminal harassment one, for example. I don't know where you fall on it, but many men often say that they are having their free speech rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:31 AM
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Damn lol. This is getting fun. I'm going to have to copy this, cut out my quotes, and organize a response, while looking up markup so I can format it to be readable. And bed is in half an hour so I'll get to it tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:08 AM
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I mean it's not meaningless at all but I understand if the concepts are so foreign to you that it internally makes no sense and you can't relate to it. Ok. Lets say you have masculine and feminine qualities. Each quality can have a rating of 1 to 10 for strength or whatever. A cis man will have masculine and feminine qualities to his personality and emotions, but the masculine qualities will all tend to be stronger AND he will tend to act from them first if he has feminine qualities which could …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:43 AM
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Hmm. Here's the thing. You provided specific examples. What about when a man talks about his need for money? What about when a man talks about his cancer? What about when a man talks about his need for a better job to support his family? There are certain problems that no one tries to listen to. Sexual assault is just as likely to be an ugly process for the victim as a man who reports as a woman, just in different ways, and action is just as unlikely. Other problems, men get listened to and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:25 AM
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It gets alot more complex than that it was a one sentence explanation. Yes, everyone has masculine and feminine aspects. But you might say that like Terry Crews is a cis guy who has masculine and feminine aspects and the masculine aspects are naturally dominant (hence, getting in touch with his feminine side. It takes introspection and attention) and he's still a guy. The person being responded to is a queer person. Everyone is a mix but they don't have a masculine or feminine dominant. They mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:14 AM
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It's no different from "Oh are you gay, must be a hipster then" yes I'm serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:11 AM
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Gender nonconforming is an internal label. It means that there's a mix of masculinity and femininity inside. Not that you're challenging external gender norms by wearing a bun and an ugly romper.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:58 AM
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Hipsters are assholes queers are a legally protected identity it's not funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:54 AM
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Break up when it's not right. I don't wait, if it's wrong gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:53 AM
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https://media.timeout.com/images/100673261/image.jpg This is my ideal I am not that hairy. Like less than half that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:52 AM
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Don't be a douchebag, douchebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:48 AM
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Nope we just get TERFs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:47 AM
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Hmm. Yeah that's fair. I'm not anti self interest but I am vehemetly anticapitalist. I think capitalism has an inevitable progression especially in a partially globalized world where wealth and power concentrates at the top without massive and systemic regulation on how it's allowed to work and all of that regulation is socialist in nature. I think that capitalism unregulated turns out the worst kind of people because it glorifies profit above all else and greed is not a good principle to base y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:45 AM
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Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and the electoral college still handed Trump the election after Hillary flat stole the primary from Bernie Sanders. Votes don't fucking matter, every state is gerrymandered to hell, voter suppression is widespread and organized and government run. We live in oligarchy and fascism, what am I supposed to be pleased by.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:02 AM
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Saying that is still a problem because describing it as a "transnational relationship" implies that is primary and the psychology of attachment doesn't back that up at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 01:28 AM
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Ok. Then like the concept that some people are hypergamous and some aren't, and of those who are some it's a little important and some it's alot, I will agree with you that it is common and advised and healthy to both look at yourself and a partner and ask what you both bring to the table in a relationship and to have those things be an active part of your dynamic where they are acknowledged between you and appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 12:30 AM
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Yeah I get what you mean about dealbreakers I can't stand people who generalize in order to dismiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 12:29 AM
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Well we don't have any form of honored democratic input so I will say I do not think capitalism can GIVE you honored democratic input. But then we are also a republic when we should have been a democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 12:28 AM
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https://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2012/9/19/as-gender-equality-increases-male-and-female-mate-preference.html It is also worth mentioning that women seemed to care less about wealth and status in countries with greater equality; however, men's preferences for wealth and status did not increase in such cases. Overall, men's preferences tended to be more consistent across countries, whereas women's preferences varied more with changes in equality. I don't know how to do markup on comments in unread s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 12:27 AM
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Actually I have. I'm the social learning theorist side. That's my entire plank when I get into a discussion with someone who can actually keep up. Congrats, you're the only one so far. Studies back up that when a country is not male dominated in both it's power structure and social hierarchy things change. We see this in Europe, particularly Western Europe in countries like Sweeden and Denmark where equality has made the most progress, mate selection criteria changes drastically. We are seeing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 10:46 PM
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Ok. Now we're on the same page. I have run into people who specifically cite that hypergamy and transactional relationships are the antithesis of love and that women do not love. Ever. I have had people say that being 100% genuine and argue it in detail. Provide sources. I agree that hypergamy exists. I agree that some individuals are hypergamous. I agree that some individuals hypergamy is their primary motivation in dating. Where I disagree is where anyone says "Most women" or "All women" becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 10:14 PM
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I would agree with the insecurity thing. Everyone is. This society is designed to produce insecure people. Deodorant wasn't a thing until adveritising convinced everyone that smells were bad. Not saying that wasn't an improvement, but in the 1800s people just stank or didn't and you dealt with it. I do not think that men are more replaceable. You have not seen people going through divorces in real time. Going through breakups. You haven't seen women breaking up with and getting back together wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:59 PM
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That depends entirely upon the legislative foundation and structure of the government
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:53 PM
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You can't prove a negative. And when it comes to relationships not being transactional and loveless like read a human psychology textbook. Specifically human sexuality. Like, the contention that people are in it just for the exchange, look at /r/relationships. This isn't something people bother studying because the ideas you're putting forth are so hopelessly overslimplified compared to how human interaction works that the ideas have no intellectual merit or use except to interact with a specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:52 PM
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I think a few public false allegations yeah can cause an effect. I also think that the movement has had an effect. Employers are taking sexual harassment more seriously, people are getting fired not just on the news for it, and lives have been affected. The discussion becomes complex when the consequences start falling on people. I don't think the american opinion has "shifted against" victims I think that most of the same people feel the same way and some people in the middle have shifted for r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:46 PM
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No. Please go read the entirety of a modern human sexuality textbook and get back to me on why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:41 PM
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The problem here is that men and women each have the right to talk about problems. When men talk about problems, they are often listened to. When they are not, it is often other men who are the first to turn away. They are seldom fought. You don't see women walking into threads about dudes who got legit shafted by family court saying "That's how it should be you're a man you can't care for children" look at evolutionary psychology men have made war throughout history their place is out of the ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:40 PM
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It is incredibly common. One of my gfs is on fetlife and dudes will just send dick pics. Sometimes they like announce it. Usually, the announcement comes and before you have time to process, the pic comes after. Sometimes it just pops up at a lull in conversation. Besides all the other bad aspects of it I really love imagining a face to face conversation where that's the moment someone just whipped their dick out of their pants and was like "so, do you like it" because if you saw anyone do that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:33 PM
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I outgrew lonely nerd in college. I just wish I'd come out as bi, there were a few guys who wanted to date me in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:28 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:26 PM
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It is in consumerism. We make things to break. We're gonna have to stop doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:26 PM
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See, that second part I'm like "where?" Where have I said anything like that? That's an assumption on your part. I have not encountered many complaints about male problems that the source of the problem is actually women, I will say. Like, almost every problem I have in my own life can be traced back to a man whether it's me or someone else. I am after full legislative equality between men and women. We have to legislate it because obviously it's not happening without fighting the men who have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:24 PM
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I have done my own research. Red Pill's issues are often not the validity of it's sources but the conclusions they then draw. The issue is not one of facts but logical fallacies. By inviting discussion I get to really parse down exactly what those are. Though I'm finding for every red piller there's a different version of Hypergamy which I did not expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:17 PM
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Sure they are. People are unplugging from social media. Like, understand, college is also it's own thing and the dynamics of college students who still live most of their lives online at times are not adult dynamics. That's kinda an in-between stage. People with kids and families, adults with careers who are dating, divorced parents, these people aren't on instagram acting out high school dynamics. The population you're referencing is a small segment of society. Even in high school tons of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:15 PM
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Near Dallas
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:10 PM
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Very correct. Male access to women has often been under the control of other men and not women themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:10 PM
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You're right, those were the rules of the game. We're trying to rewrite the script. That's the entire point. You understand what most here do not. That exploitation is not a part of male biology that we have to accept but rather a cold choice made in the light of self interest and that there will always be people willing to exploit because it factually works and is often an effective mechanism for survival. You're 100% right about that. /r/braincels is the result of us pushing back against explo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:11 PM
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I'm a socialist thank you. Government ownership is tyrrany. Public ownership might actually save the world if we don't suffocate or fry first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:07 PM
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If you think men are actually replaceable to the women who date them you really understand nothing about human connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:06 PM
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Not when everyone who says it also says that it is the dominant thought process and that women do not love. This is goalpost moving. That is not how it is used in conversation here, not how it is defined by the people who use it. Saying that relationships are transactional isn't just saying it's presence of mind about what is gained. It is used specifically to say that women treat relationships like a transaction and try to get out of men whatever they can while giving as little as they can beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:06 PM
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Ugh. Men are not polygamous. Some men are. I'm an actual poly dude. Like, two girlfriends who date me and each other polyamorous. Believe me when I say most men are not like me. The thing you think is polygamy or polyamory is actually a facet of objectification. Monogamy is not a universal trait but it is a common one. I've seen people on both sides of the fence use the existence of one or the other to overgeneralize. The truth is people are a mix and there's not a binary here. Some people are j…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 08:03 PM
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Saaaaame. If someone just told me "I'm attracted to intelligence" I'm like me too. People say they're sapiosexual and I'm like "I'm bisexual gtfo" I feel like sometimes it's used by straight people to like "try to be LGBT" kinda but then I run into lesbians who say they're sapiosexual or something and I'm like "you fucking snowflakes stop that"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:46 PM
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1) Women are still largely socialized to be passive in relationships before they enter adulthood and start getting dating advice that comes from actual adults they know and not their parents, the media, and their friends. It is not universal, but it is extremely common. 2) Men aren't safe. You can google articles about men reacting violently to rejection. Sometimes women get shot and die for saying no. Of fucking course women mostly do not approach. 3) Outside of cishet social circles, women app…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:43 PM
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Because I'm inviting Red Pill to bring me their science and the attached logic so it can be discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:36 PM
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Men also fought and died much more often. I mean, we're talking the time before fucking bows and arrows here. Fighting had casualties and men went out and fought each other. It is not an assumption. Women have been treated as property and as second class citizens at best in certain limited times and roles like the height of rome if you were an upper class woman. This is documented historical fact across history.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:35 PM
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Fuck no. Libertarianism is the mistaken idea that society can exist without regulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:32 PM
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It's that last bit. "The fruits of men's labor" Define that please, in detail. In your mind or in your argument, what exactly are women taking from men and not providing themselves. Your only example so far is tax revenue and considering that male ownership of capital and gender conventions in child rearing as well as gender pay gaps are all involved in that concept. That is one example of you citing a non example, a statistic that in full context means nothing for your argument. That's the thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:31 PM
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Oh it's beyond there. If we gave up our heavily meat centered diets, invested heavily in nuclear power, solar, wind, and tidal power generation, invested in that lab grown meat (which has a tiny carbon footprint compared to growing cows and such) and invested in publicly owned robotic production which was allowed to be managed by private companies (basically the robots get paid wages by the company and those wages fund universal basic income) and we could rebuild the entire economy on robotic pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:22 PM
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Nobody dates down. Red Pill specifically talks about dating people with high social status and good looks. The top 20% of men is a commonly cited number. Your first paragraph is goal post moving in this discussion because you're expressing a different and more generalized view of hypergamy. The idea that 80% of women will only date the top 20% of men is more than controversial. Its like looking out the window and seeing rain and being convinced it's a clear day. How many women would be happy? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:17 PM
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lol you mean the sub where they take limited studies and generalize across the entire female population and contexts that the studies they cite have nothing to do with and deny the importance of any concept that disagrees with them or any critique of the logical process by which they arrive at insane conclusions? P.S. I did not cite my experience as evidence, I cited my experience to relate the lack of understanding of how Red Pill worldviews get as twisted as they do. You missed that emotional …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:00 PM
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If you don't want to discuss it then you didn't have to respond to the thread. No, I have an example in this very thread about the proof given as evidence of Hypergamy being someone taking a completely unproven hypothesis put forward by one scientist which has since been debunked and citing it as scientific theory based in and proven by many supporting facts. Red Pill science is often misusing studies. Hypergamy hasn't been proven, the fact that some women agree with you doesn't mean shit statis…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:56 PM
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Yeah it is a growth time but you're supposed to leave it behind. It's not that life is high school. It's that a significant portion of people never emotionally mature into adulthood. This exists in all genders for different reasons. It's not universal but it is very widespread. Some people are stunted, some people are naturally immature, some people catch up at some point in their life, some people stay children forever and poison most environments they exist in for the rest of their lives. Part…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:53 PM
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Yeah, no. I live in fucking Texas dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:45 PM
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Factually untrue in tons of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:44 PM
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That's entirely dependent on who you're connected with. My facebook is full of people I know in real life and we mostly share current news around and use messenger to coordinate. I buy weed off it. Reddit, this is not like high school this is like lord of the flies with both genders. Twitter is just anarchy every which way which I guess if that's your high school experience jesus where did you go? I've never had an instagram account and the only people I know who do are like moms who share shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:09 PM
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Yeah I just got in an argument with a dude who seemed about 40 and well spoken who was just too fucking lazy to actually do his research. Started quoting erroneous history at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:52 PM
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I see wat u did there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:52 PM
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You must be kidding. The average straight guy is riddled with hidden insecurities there is no such thing as a woman who dates men who doesn't date an insecure man. I have literally met a dude with a 12 inch dick who felt like he was too small because his girlfriend had a dildo a little bit longer than he was. Like dude she has to have something to fucking grab onto but dudes are fucking stupid insecure all the time. It just gets hidden behind stoicism and you pretend it doesn't exist. Stoicism i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:51 PM
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When one person hoards so much wealth that other people are starving on a world we were all born to and all have the same fundamental right to, yeah you're stealing. See, that's the thing. You say people don't owe you anything. I say everyone born here deserves a share of what this planet produces. There's no goddamn reason in the world for me to respect billionaires and inheritance and a country who's economic system has been shaped to funnel money away from the middle class and into the pocket…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:49 PM
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No this is gymbros who are awful dudes and no one wants to play with them. Guys you might say are like 6-8s in the face and 8+ on body who are just garbage humans underneath so much they can't hide it and women just have no interest, they can't get far enough into social interaction to get laid or get dates. One of the things that feminism does is educate women on abuse and such and teach them to run the fuck away from guys who exhibit those traits. Go look at /r/relationships. It's full of men …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:43 PM
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I love how you pretend that power runs along "Apex men" lines. The monarchies built Europe and you can study history the kings were OFTEN not "Apex men" Nobles, same deal. The manly men who are like manly men you might admire today were peasants. They did as they were ordered by their "betters" on pain of starvation or more immediate death. That's not apex men, that's slavery. If you wanted to say that, that men built society on the back of slavery, theft, murder, and oppression, that would be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:34 PM
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Yeah, they mostly had to steal or inherit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:25 PM
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I'm a guy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:19 PM
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Uhh. Because an all powerful dictator refused to return power to the senate. Still waiting for one of you to not prove my point when you misquote history.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:15 PM
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Ahhhh. Pretending to be above it all at the end of a long thread. How I've missed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:14 PM
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Call me when we switch back to monarchy. Or when we aren't watching social progress be undone by a tyrannical dystopian government before our eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:02 PM
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Uhh, no, Runaway capitalism, rampant consumerism, systemic racism, and men being in charge of things is causing the collapse of western civilization. Please find a way to blame the car manufacturer layoffs resulting from Trump's tarrifs on women. I wanna see you try.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:59 PM
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Hahaha mhm. No answer. About what I expected. I shot your example to pieces and your only response is "It's well documented" I'm starting to think you have no idea what you're actually talking about, Terry. P.S. "It's a natural move" is a non sequitur. That's the logical fallacy where you imply a link of logic where there just isn't one and move on and I have to sit here and point out that your game theory is complete horseshit and there is no such thing as a "natural move" in logic. Your conclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:52 PM
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Nooooo. Most women are attracted to specific men. Men experience a far more generalized attraction to women a la objectification and physical attraction and who a woman is matters less to many men than who a man is matters to the average woman. Red pill projects this "interchangeability" that men experience towards women as something women experience towards men. So while a man will look at every hot girl in the room and think "I would date any of you" and that's pretty fucking common, women pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:51 PM
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I agree. And the value people look for is entirely subjective. Some people want stability. Everyone wants stability in some form, some people want a partner who brings it to their life, some people don't need that, some people do not want stability. It's like that for everything. The quiet goal of this is to see if I can fish out any TRPers with enough critical thought capacity that I can maybe show them this is bullshit, but so far I've just gotten insults and a few references to pretending one…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:43 PM
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K
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:36 PM
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Go away incel this is not for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:36 PM
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P.S. Do you know what a patrilinear dynasty is? That's that class system where only the wealthy and powerful reproduced? The male run class system where men did not allow lower class men to even have wives, but women from any class were allowed to get married. The system where "female hypergamy" is actually male greedy hoarding of women. The thing incels think chad does? That's what you think ye olde men did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:35 PM
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I love that you won't even discuss it. Come on lets talk about that 17 to 1 ratio. So at one point in history we identified that a very small amount of men reproduced. The hypothesis (not theory) is by a specific scientist involves wealth and power. Lets talk about the world at that time. 6000bc. We don't even really have estimates for the world population then, but the guess puts it at between 5 and 20 million humans. Low technology. This drop happened across the world, in populations that neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:30 PM
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Lol someone's getting angry at having their facts challenged. I thought this was a debate forum. That's part of debating, Terry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:13 PM
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Ahahahahaha Uh huh. Ok. Distribute half of all equity to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:05 PM
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Well known shit that Red Pill draws a massive amount of completely unsupported conclusions from yes. So either lets actually talk about it or kindly shut the fuck up, this thread isn't for you =)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 11:49 AM
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Please post up the dating site statistics you're talking about. It's been a while since I've seen those. And written in our DNA? Are you talking about the desire to "obtain the best mate"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 10:16 AM
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Dating down is rare because of pure socialization. I don't have access to any rich girls. I know tons of poor to middle class girls of all appearances and personality types. I don't really know any rich people. I went to a school in a major city, the public school smack dab in the middle of the 3 million dollar lot with no house district, so the local property taxes were insane and we had like 9 computer labs and shit. In the early 2000s. The rich kids went to the private school across the stree…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:54 AM
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Hypergamy as defined by Red Pill largely does not exist in the every day world. Status for most people doesn't exist in a meaningful way like it used to and the concept of the male hierarchy is something that primarily exists among men, for men, and they're the ones actually paying attention to it. Red Pill contends that relationships are transactional. That women do not love at all, and that they view relationships like business decisions with an eye to profit. I contend that is all untrue for …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:14 AM
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I'm a bisexual guy and your introductory statement was immediate gaslighting and invalidation of my goddamn writing style without a single word about post content. I'm stoned and I wrote something inviting friendly discussion. You are not that, go away. Oh, and BPD is Borderline/CPTSD. Bipolar is BD. I don't have mania or depressive episodes I was beaten until I got angry enough to beat back and spent my 20s learning anger management. My writing style being indicative of a scattered mindset ston…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 08:38 AM
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Plug is what everyone who sells weed (illegally) calls themselves these days. And you can go fuck yourself with the crazy comment. I have CPTSD and I'm done talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 08:21 AM
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This. This is a very well put explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 06:21 AM
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Ok, here's my experience with this. Insecurities are tricky. When you are with a good partner who gives a shit (and I only date women at this point so thats' my experience) insecurity talk is fine so long as your emotional reactions are not dependent on her. Now, it is totally true women will do this. Men allow it when they should not. I think every man should learn about codependence (among other topics) not because women are overly codependent but because men are overly shitty at recognizing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 06:16 AM
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Uhh pretty much every conclusion you draw from any facts involved (few) in blackpill is unscientific and full of logical fallacies. There is no actual scientific process involved in blackpill. You just misquote some facts and then go off on a completely unsupported ramble about what those nebulous facts mean that show a complete absence not just of critical thought, but any capacity for it. Go away dude. Even Red Pill has some intellectual merit to it in some places. Your views are just banal in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 04:15 AM
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My father is a piece of shit and I'm well shot of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:39 AM
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Blackpill is not science
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:25 AM
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Yeah that's true. You've got a society where men have enabled that way of life for a long time. A society where women weren't allowed to DO anything but get married and have babies if they wanted to be with a man at all. We're coming out of that fog now but it's slow going. And lol. Some people are just garbage no matter what gender, sex, orientation, creed. I know a few gay athiests who need a beatdown right now because they stole and set on fire an ex boyfriend's car. Like, the cops have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:59 AM
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i·de·ol·o·gy/ˌīdēˈäləjē,ˌidēˈäləjē/nounnoun: ideology; plural noun: ideologies 1.a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy."the ideology of republicanism"synonyms:beliefs, ideas, ideals, principles, ethics, morals; More the ideas and manner of thinking characteristic of a group, social class, or individual."a critique of bourgeois ideology" Blackpill is an ideology. Facts are part of or support an ideology. But the ideology inclu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:49 AM
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Because men jump on and exploit each other's insecurities viciously in ways women do not, and some women taking the lead from men do the same, creating an environment which punishes male insecurity. Women are often opposed to this primarily male mosh pit of a social dynamic, but women have not had the power to change social dynamics like this in the world until the last couple of decades, really. Not in their own lives. Women on the other hand, their value in men's eyes too often does not come f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:42 AM
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I can't believe he responded to "fair" and not the intellectual garbage that is evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:37 AM
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Because your ideology is fundamentally insane and Red Pill is just horrifically misguided
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:36 AM
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YASSSSSSSSSS But negotiation is a skill. You can be talented at it, but most of it is learned. ​
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:26 AM
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Are you in the US? Most of us are 2 income households. It's required in this economy to survive for most people. Especially in families with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:26 AM
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Voting for trump makes you a problem for everyone who suffers while he's in office. You know, like the children being adopted by families here after their own families are separated from them and deported. Your decision is killing people. Stop trying to be like "oh I just voted" and please stop talking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:59 AM
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It shows a lack of empathy because you're wrong and you are emotionally invested in not changing your opinion. Your self concept is based on men having it harder. You don't want to give that up. Ergo you empathize with yourself over women when you are in the wrong. That is an empathy problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:58 AM
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lol I have social anxiety disorder and I have two girlfriends, so that first line is complete horse shit. Demand they be extroverts? That's a lie. You just label all introverts in relationships as "betas" and pull some Aesop's Fables shit and call what they have sour grapes and pretend that every single one of them is a cuckold. Well, not you, I have to quote red pill ideology to you a bit here and assume you agree I guess. I'm an anime fan and a gamer. I know girls who are anime fans and gamers…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:57 AM
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Or in shorter form, just because you don't like your life doesn't mean it isn't still easier than other lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:31 AM
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There is no possible debate with a nonfactual perspective. There is no point in arguing with your logical fallacies. The logic is all there. The world is complex, Red Pill tries to oversimplify it in order to establish some kind of ability to stay on top of what's going on in the world. Your circular logic and over-generalizations are a substitution for the feeling of being above and in control privilege used to give men. This discussion is nothing more than a placebo for your entire ideology al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:29 AM
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A person says white people are the problem (we totally are) and your response is "Ok fine I'll kill us all I swear to God" That is the dumbest thing I've seen someone say. Trump isn't your friend. He's not helping you. We're losing jobs. The economy is tanking fast. Regulations are being stripped for everyone. You are a garbage human. So privileged you will comfortably sell out your fellow citizens AND GET NOTHING OUT OF IT just out of spite. Please do not respond to me further. You're the kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:23 AM
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Replace the word women with men and your meaningless generalization has just as much truth in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:21 AM
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TRUUUUUUTHHHHH
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:20 AM
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A few inconveniences. You are lonely because you are socially maladaptive. He works a dangerous job because the men above him wouldn't consider hiring a woman. She got raped because she's a woman he thought wouldn't fight, get loud, or tell anyone. They are a population that factually has it worse than you and you can't see it because YOU are the one who lacks any form of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:19 AM
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The last paragraph is the only thing you wrote that has any truth to it. Most relationships do not work like that. Even the bad ones aren't transactional, that idea is a very small subset of people that you are applying across all of humanity. But that last one is totally true. You aren't complete in the eyes of other men if you can't land a hot girl. Cishet men need to stop treating each other like shit so yall can all calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:15 AM
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Yeah I think TONS of men would have a problem with this. You really don't get it. You do not understand the concept that if you lived a woman's life you wouldn't still have your perspective. When you imagine this scenario do you know what you do? You only imagine the first moment. You don't imagine getting fired because your honestly gross looking boss who you couldn't have gotten it up for if you tried got rejected and got mad at you for it. You don't imagine going home to your wife to explain …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:22 AM
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You don't have to be in shape yet. Being in the process is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:05 AM
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That's not how anything actually works in real life. Yall endless different types of people and relationships down into like 3 or 4 easy to digest categories. I'm not a walking wallet. I might have some alpha personality traits, but I'm average looking. Just intelligent and funny enough, woke and respectful enough, for women to very much enjoy spending time around me. The ones who find me attractive make for loyal girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:05 AM
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Developing community relationships, reforming and changing social conventions to suit the needs of new populations and emerging problems. You know, feminism. The civil rights movement. LGBT equality. Sustainability from economy to daily life. All that hippie shit we've been yelling at you about that amounts to learning to live in a society that from the ground up is not constantly trying to tear itself apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:02 AM
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I'm kinda ready for a world not run by white people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:59 AM
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The fact that you think that that was the comparison I was making... I was saying that if you read history, social progress doesn't reverse. Ever. And that trying to make it reverse would require a tyrannical government a la the handmaids tale. I was saying that that's your goto example for how it would go if you tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:59 AM
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lol your idea of what it is to live a life where you have a stable relationship is nothing like what real life is like. Your ideas are a cricature of humanity that don't reflect what most people go through. Like, even the bad relationships are far more complex than the stuff you talk about. I'm not a doormat. I'm also not a chad, I'm not hot, my value is entirely in my charisma and intelligence and humor pretty much I am not rich either. I don't get to fuck the hottest girls. I do get to fuck pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:57 AM
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I love that you have to say that they don't have it that bad at all. You cannot in good faith say they have it "as good as men do" It's just an outright lie. It ends the argument and we both know it. Your response is trying to pretend "ehh it's so close it could go either way" which really is a way of saying you don't really understand what life is like for women, you haven't really listened to any of the problems or perspectievs out there, and you're not really going to so from where you stand …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:53 AM
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More like a trap of self reinforcing neurosis that hopeless men downward spiral into that keeps them from self examining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 03:51 AM
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Trying to legitimize MGTOW is worse
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:49 PM
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Ok and you're not being ironic here you just lost a fan what? The majority supports trump? Are you just trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:28 PM
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There are no high status men in MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:27 PM
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I want to bronze this post and put it on my wall to laugh with you just got yourself a fan sir. You also could have just copypasted The Fox and The Grapes lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:24 PM
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lol no they wouldn't. The attention men give is objectifying. Imagine if women just walked by and grabbed your ass but weren't nice to you before or after. See, you're thinking like this attention is admiration. It isn't. If you think it is, you're en a shitload of denial about how men behave. The attention women get is entitled, presumptive, creepy, and often turns to hostility. So lets actually give you what you want. You are 5'2. Women are the tall ones, death by snu snu, all that. You're hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:15 PM
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A complete lack of critical thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:10 PM
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How about we say there's nothing more masculine than being a father to your genetic legacy. Nurturing is a genderless concept. lol I like this question I wanna see the answers. I have literally had women lean out the window of their cars to yell actually nice things "Have a great day!" seeing me walk down the street with my daughter with her holding my hand and I've had other women express that me being a father turned them on so yeah I'd say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:07 PM
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This is such a bad comparison. Ugh. Ok. So, by your definition I'm very alpha. I'm bluepill as fuck, but I've spent most of my life working to tone down my natural aggression and you merely need to check my post history lol to see Charisma. I have had conversations with people like me about the empty bravado of being a tough guy who will follow through. About the empty courage of knowing you're bigger and stronger than most and can easily solve problems with violence or intimidation. About how l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:06 PM
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THIS. Evolution is a social game now, boys. Social evolution is the name of the game with humanity. Our technology has far outpaced our social development as a society and as things change, those who do not adapt are being naturally selected. Think that women are wrong and we need to "go back to better times" yall? Read some history. It has and never will work that way without a tyrannical government enforcing a return to previous social dynamics. You're asking for The Handmaids Tale, basically.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:44 PM
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Yeah, no. That is a violation of consent and "it is implied that you will consent unless otherwise stated" is your own nuance you want to introduce because that's how you want the world to work. That is not how it works. I am a man and that was rape. Unambiguously. I'm also a dominant. I fuck my submissive in her sleep to wake her up. I do so because I talked to her beforehand and established it's acceptability AND I'll stop if she indicates that she wants me to (through established safewords or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:29 PM
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The entire narrative of humble bragging is a concept where people with nothing to talk about themselves get uncomfortable in the course of normal conversation where someone else relates experiences they do not have and that uncomfortable person wants an excuse to not listen anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:24 PM
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Uhh no it takes at absolute best six months to get far enough down the road to self improvement to be able to showcase that improvement and use it to your advantage in the dating world. Some women NEVER manage to sort the wheat from the chaff. The Chaff has learned to lie dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:15 PM
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Not really. Men have to hit fame to get unwanted attention most of the time. When I say unwanted attention you understand I mean creeps, scary interactions, groping, threats, control, etc. Men don't have to deal with that on the same scale as women until they're famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 11:04 PM
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True, but men can change themselves into better men who's attention is wanted easier than women can sort out the men who's attention they do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 10:49 PM
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This post doesn't represent anything in real life though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 10:37 PM
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This is a terrible strawman argument that doesn't represent anything I can identify to agree or disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 10:33 PM
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Yeah I think so. Not just to herself but to you. You're setting yourself up for long term failure in exchange for short term benefits. Wish her well and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 10:32 PM
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Irrelevant, because the attention garnered for being attractive to men is disproportionately unwanted. This attention does not benefit women and in fact does the opposite to the point that it is common to try to lessen it in day to day life for most attractive women. Women who want attention that they actually welcome have a much harder time finding it than men. The social value that affects that is not as easy to come by because many women are competing for a relatively small portion of the mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 10:31 PM
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