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Ok boomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 10:26 PM
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Seek validation. I didn't bring myself up until you did. You're really bad at this. Responding to a dumb personal attack =/= seeking validation. And lol "Kiddo" I'm in my 30s dude. I don't have an ego to guard here, I told you the truth. But, as I covered, believing it would shatter your worldview. You didn't offer an opposing opinion. You offered an ad homenim attack. Why don't you google that term so at least you can understand what I'm saying well enough to respond with something that doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 10:25 PM
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No it didn't. The only way you can say that is if you're genuinely fine with women having no voice in their society, being subject to abuse and control by men who haven't earned shit and don't deserve to have a say over anyone elses life, and are fine with a government that dismantled worker protections among other things to drop us back down to late 1920s wealth inequality and the resultant economic instability that that brings. You don't know politics, you don't know government, and you're stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 10:24 PM
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Interpretation: The idea that this person might be right scares me to my core so much that I have to call him a stupid name like mangina and disagree by throwing out an ad homenim attack that was old before Facebook allowed people to join without .edu addresses. Also my worldview would be shattered if I actually knew and could allow myself believe that I'm saying this about a guy with two girlfriends and a fuckbuddy who all know about each other cause it's 2019 and ethical polyamory is totally a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 10:17 PM
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My only real reply is to laugh at you calling a current observation of what red pill is "outdated theories" like I'm pulling from someone or quoting someone saying that. Red Pill is what it is, the emotional maturity is flat out not there, it's plain to see to anyone who has even the slightest amount of real empathy and balance to their perspective, anyone who is not so childishly immature that their perspective is pure solipsism. Sadly, you do not seem to be among that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 09:42 AM
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lol it's a pretty bad reflection on western women that they can't vet men. Really? You don't get it. Non shitty men by the standards women want to have are rare. Actually rare, especially in the US. Depending on your definition of settling, everyone does. Settling is compromise you make with yourself, no one is ever your list of ideal traits, so you try to go for what you think you can get, this is universal in dating when people actually go out and date and try people on. And then, love is fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 09:40 AM
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I think other guys who want anyone to eat pizza with a fork and knife obnoxious and distasteful. Wtf. You're just...wierd. "If it's inexpensive it's distasteful" you actually sound like some kinda trust fund incel. Are you the ghost of elliot rodger?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:28 AM
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Fuuuuuuuck no. Fuck no fuuuuuuuuck no I would not trade being a man in the dating world for being a woman. FUUUUUUUCK THAT. I'll take not being assaulted for 800 alex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:25 AM
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Let me go and actually read a bit before I reply...hmm. The top non stickied thread is a refutation of "women hit the wall" bullshit men actually do say with the explicit intention of making women more willing to settle for them. It is absolutely a "lower your fucking standards" line from guys. I didn't get into the comments, but the OP is pretty correct and the end of the post is about maintaining your standards and not settling. That's dating advice I would give literally anyone but especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:24 AM
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lol I'm the armchair psychiatrist and you just diagnosed me. That is projection. I'm a few years away from a degree to be an actual psychologist. You relabeled projection to shaming. This is incorrect. Shaming is an action. Projection is an emotional motivation. Shaming arises from projection, the idea that other men SHOULD feel how they feel and that they should react how the guy projecting reacts to things. Thats basically how projection would be defined in any textbook you care to look at. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:11 AM
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Male and female imperatives are conditioned horseshit that supports a man working woman at home traditional worldview. It is pseudoscientific garbage purported by red pill to justify emotional immaturity on the part of both men and women and to make human actions immutable truth rather than bad decisions made by lots of people for bad reasons that are easily observable and describable in the world around us, should anyone care to look. You said valid? Red Pill advocates all kinds of manipulative…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:05 AM
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You're making alot of assumptions from a single post, but I'll bite. Your entire perspective "The left eating its own" and the way you present yourself is someone who wants to be above everything, yet you're here. I made a post about something that annoys me, you decided to do the same directed at me. Nice need for personal engagement and antagonism there, and way to project the kind of arrogance you display using first year graduate words again without much context as to your own views to just …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 06:00 AM
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You can take your stupid abortion comment and go somewhere else. I'm all for abortion. Don't want to have a kid, don't. Don't have a uterus? Shut up about abortion. Have a uterus? Shut up about rights that don't belong to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:57 AM
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There are a myraid of problems with self reporting. It's not about lying its about accuracy and people misremeber all the time. But the reason self reporting is so overall inaccurate is that it provides almost zero actual studied context. We know nothing about those reporting. What they do with their time, how they live, how much they seek sex in the first place, etc. It's just a contextless self reported anonymous number. Without some kinda controlled scientific study about it, all you can say …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:56 AM
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You created a life for yourself in an economy that doesn't exist anymore and hasn't since the late 90s, by the time the recession hit you were established. Some of us were hitting the workforce during the recession. I have friends with college degrees and no openings in their field because a majority of people your age can't retire. You exist in a life full of privilege that you either don't see or aren't admitting to acting like you made something of yourself by oversimplifying what success is.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:53 AM
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TRP discourages marriage so heavily because these guys WANT to get married and have to counter that desire with something, so they imbibe all kinds of content about how awful marriage is to make themselves terrified of it and not want to do it anymore. The spinning plates advice is a response to red pill becoming disillusioned with the original goal of marrying a hot sweet virgin who will love them forever and take care of their house and kids for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 11:01 PM
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Agree, they're the same old "I want to fuck a slut and marry a virgin after" dudes that have existed since the beginning of time with modern context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 11:00 PM
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That's literally avoiding half the planet. You don't need to come up with an identity for that so you're properly labeled you should just have a damn conversation. This is why people fuck up social interaction now. Everyone wants it laid out for them before they dip a toe in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:57 PM
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lol my ignorance. You make alot of generalized statements about people without actually saying anything. You certainly are keeping your cycle of self reinforced biases quiet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:56 PM
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So... That survey treats the entire world as if it is straight. Gay men are virgins/celibate and were not accounted for by that study, telling you that study has AWFUL methodology. That chops at least 10% off your 30% right there off the bat. I get it's been around a long while, that doesn't mean the survey is meant to be used as hard scientific numbers as you are using them. Sex has been declining in all sectors overall. The total amount of sex being had in America has declined since 2008. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:54 PM
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lol this isn't even your issue and my stance is clear. There's no need to be open minded in this thread, but your stupid ass contextually inappropriate generalization sure makes you look like you've got much of a brain and know how to use it. Tell me, are you trying to insult me, or was this more generic reinforcement of your own biases and thus a comment that was mostly for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:41 PM
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They project their own desire to not have kids or raise someone else's kids onto everyone and shame anyone not in "their group" to feel better about themselves. Less selfish, more reasonable, whatever they can rationalize. The truth is that it's an internal reaction to their own recognition of exactly how selfish they are, so they have to denigrate the action so that their desire to never go near it and live a life that puts no one above themselves is normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:40 PM
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I'm an extremely left leaning social justice type. I'm not looking to discuss much tbh, I'm looking to tell the few idiots who might label themselves as demisexual not to fucking talk about it, no one cares and the label is utterly meaningless. It pisses me off. I'm a bi dude who has had people assault me over it before. Lots of us LGBTs have faced real discrimination, violence, and have had to fight for the recognition we have, had to fight to reclaim labels like bisexual from a hostile majorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:29 PM
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A preference is something you desire that isn't hard wired. I prefer linguine over penne. I cannot change that I am attracted to both men and women, and I have been this way and aware of it since I developed sexual attraction to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:26 PM
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I didnt say it didn't exist i said it isn't real. If you're going to ask dumb questions repeatedly like this you should at least be able to follow the content and context of what is being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:24 PM
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This doesn't really make that much sense, and I would guess comes from someone who isn't a part of a protected minority? If you're a white woman you don't really count, white & cis > woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:23 PM
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lol a third. Where you getting those numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:21 PM
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The judge game him freedom to not be restricted by default, not to commit crimes. This is a hard case. On the one hand it's a win for mentally ill people overall, there is a point to be made about allowing people the human space to make their own mistakes. On the other hand, yeah, something bad is likely to come of this. Hard line to know how to draw, but setting the precedent for this guy sets precedent for lots of other people who are far less risky than him or who are at risk for different th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:20 PM
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It's really not that complicated. Some people need an emotional connection for sexual attraction. Some people do not. Neither side is in the minority here, neither side is oppressed based on this. Yet, the label "demisexual" was taken. Imitating lgbt naming conventions like bisexual, homosexual, transsexual, etc. We use these labels because they were given to us, mostly. We have had to reclaim them from a hostile majority that used to use these labels (and often still does) to identify and oppre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:15 PM
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It pisses me off alot. I've met alot of straight people who call themselves demisexual. They talk about it like shitty vegans and try to include themselves in LGBT discourse far too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:05 PM
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Because it's appropriation bullshit that's taking a label that imitates label conventions of a legally protected minority that has nothing to do with being a legally protected minority. Demisexuals are the wiggas of the LGBT world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:02 PM
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I just went and glanced at that sub and the entire front page is about not putting up with the shit men throw at women. Looks more like a support group than TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:48 PM
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Literally nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:43 PM
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Demisexuality is "I work like half the world, needing emotional connection and non casual sex, and need a label that sounds like LGBT language conventions to make me feel special about it" It is not a real thing because it's an attempt to pretend to be some kinda social minority when they aren't. Or to attempt to be a more special version of a social minority, as I do know some stupid ass fellow gays who take the label because they don't feel individual enough among the gay community and feel th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:40 PM
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No demisexuals aren't even about not caring about looks, it's only about caring about "emotional attraction first" they can be just as shallow as anyone else. It's even more meaningless than you thought it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:34 PM
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Demisexuals are not an orientation. A significant portion of humanity requires some kind of emotional connection for sexual attraction. Demisexuals are a way for straight people to attempt to be LGBT, or for LGBT to be lgbt snowflakes. That's all it is. It's as stupid as coming up with a specific word that imitates orientation language conventions to say that you prefer to have sex on top. It's almost as stupid as the label "sapiosexuality" which is literally just a humble brag.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:32 PM
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Umm, look at any republican politician, chances are he's said some awful shit about single mothers at some point in his career. Lots of guys in the manosphere treat single mothers like predators out to steal a man's money, time, and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:31 PM
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It's a way to deflect as much attention as possible from the reality that a large number of men are godawful fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:30 PM
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lol "paying your dues" I have told you that you don't understand shit about economics on a micro or macroeconomic level and you keep saying the same shit about your personal, statistically insignificant life experience. Please shut up and go away. I don't have time to waste on a Boomer or Gen Xer who never learned critical thought and who just vomits her own experience out in response to critical discussion. You do not understand anything beyond what you see, the world mostly exists out of your …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 09:28 PM
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You live in a country where more than half of people under 30 live under the poverty line and you're talking about an economy you haven't participated in at an entry level way in years talking about the economic success you enjoyed at a time when the economy was actually working for you. Your perspective is irrelevant to todays world and doesn't reflect the realities we live in. You live in pleasantville lady. Stop talking about what opportunities exist. P.S. I don't want to assume, but if you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:36 PM
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The comment you are replying to was not in response to you so I'm not really sure why you continued the conversation as if it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:18 AM
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Capitalism is not a meritocracy what are you a 19 year old econ freshman? Your views are hopelessly idealistic and do not reflect anything that has ever been what capitalism is or how it's worked. The meritocracy rewards innovation? Really? Do you know anything about our patent system? Know that microsoft and apple were both based on stealing technology from the original innovator? Know what a "buyout cycle" is? I am guessing not. You're tossing around a few people who exploited their way to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:17 AM
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Don't meet people at night clubs, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:12 AM
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It's called "Cherry picking"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:12 AM
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Stop pretending that with your "relationships are a job I should get paid for" analogy that you are personally someone who is emotionally capable of offering women any of what they want in any kind of an intimate romance. No one wants to fuck you because of your attitude, acting like "well I'm still not gonna get laid so why should I bother" is a huge part of it. People are not sexual resources for you to exploit dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:11 AM
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Men are more emotional, not less. THey are more repressed. Take the more emotional sex, teach them stoicism, turn them all into emotional pressure cookers with a toddler's emotional intelligence, and you've got a nice stock of irrational citizens who are easy to misdirect with propaganda and keep chasing their own tails. The other half of male privilege is male control. We got domination over women in exchange for accepting domination over ourselves by other men who control the resources. Men tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:09 AM
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Red pill has always had free speech, you took the platform for granted. You act like this is a reddit admin decision for money but the reason it's a decision they can make for money is because it's what the majority of reddit users want: people like Red Pill gone. Whether they know it or not, whether they care about red pill specifically or not, the kind of shit red pill is about is not what most people are about and the manosphere has beyond lost any semblance of mainstream credibility. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:05 AM
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Saying that I can get laid without money and that there are women out there in our poor ass paycheck to paycheck generation who don't care about money so long as you can successfully work and help like a partner is not revolutionary or implausible dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:45 PM
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lmao children don't need to be raised to be emotionally healthy to breed and our entire societal structure has been and still is maintained on the back of the threat of force which is a solid motivator for most people what world do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:43 PM
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Male stoicism, the expectation of male privilege, rigid roles of what dominance, leadership, alpha qualities, etc are that benefit a narrow cross section of men who are specifically like that for no specific reason except those men tend to accumulate enough wealth to set the tone. Capitalism is greed worship and a pyramid scheme and that translates into a culture which has been defined by capitalism for a few generations thanks to TV and men who have been raised to be stupid worker drones and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:40 PM
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Dating is different. It is harder for some men who have been socialized to how dating used to be. It is easier for other men who have adapted to how things are now. Generalizing how men have it is really fucking hard because I am way more successful in dating people now than I was in my late teens/early 20s when facebook was still .edu emails only.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:26 PM
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I do not care about N-count. I quietly absolutely care about cheating and infidelity in the past, and I care about how someone left an ex. I've found if you offer someone empathy for their feelings they'll willingly spool out the events of their past and give you plenty of chances to make an objective judgment about how big a risk you're taking investing in them personally. I've had girls go from potential girlfriend to friend. Like, you're cool, we can hang out, but I would never want to live w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:24 PM
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As a guy I think women have plenty to contribute to red pill discussions. The entire problem with them is that they're extremely solipsistic from a male perspective and need balance in reality. Women are needed to provide that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:20 PM
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YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Confidence comes from taking control of what you can, accepting the things you can't, and learning to succeed at making the genuine best of the hand you got dealt. My dad beat me for 14 years. I used to bring it up constantly. Now you don't see him peppered through my posts. You can let anything go, if you actually want to. How much of who you are on a daily basis is the bad shit you've been through? Yall smell of anger, fear, and resentment red pill. Humans respond subconsciou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:06 PM
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There are many types of women. Find a new type.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:53 PM
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No I really don't. Common parenting methods are in opposition to child mental health. It's not that everyone is stupid, it's that no one has actually been taught how to raise an emotionally healthy, independent child. And that most people don't really want to know because it would mean facing how wildly abusive and neglectful so many of our parents were. Spanking is illegal in multiple other countries and it's still touted as "a thing that's whats best for a child here" despite us having hard sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:48 PM
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I think by far the most common customers would be bisexual people who have a heavy dislike for one gender or another due to past trauma. I honestly would consider giving up my attraction to men if i could. I'll never find a guy I can actually connect with, what's the point of looking anymore? Bi male for reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:45 PM
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If you think you need alot of money to create mutually enjoyable shared experiences I feel sorry for you. I literally keep women interested with conversation and sex. That's my lure, that's how I get girls to like me, that's how I keep them around. Talk to them, listen to them, fuck them like it's the end of the world every once in a while, and you find alot of loyalty
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:38 PM
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"You probably can't do both simultaneously" or, stop dating men who are literal emotional children. Like, all of them. You're a girl, you know how fucking low women's standards are. You're here basically advocating for them like men who have the emotional maturity to be contradicted and still be productive don't exist. This is enabling latent male emotional maturity and is a fucked up disingenuous way to live. My answer is I don't date people who's emotions I have to babysit. And wouldn't you kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:36 PM
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No one in the history of the world has contributed enough as an individual to deserve control over a billion dollars and the power granted by that level of wealth, yet we have billionaires. You do not see the inherent flaw in the system that property ownership trumps everything else about resources on a world we share? You don't see that greed transitioned to hoarding 100% of the time and that profit itself is theft of the value added by labor to goods for the benefit of capital owners? Capitali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:33 PM
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lol You know nothing about children today. I have no experience outside of America, but in America 98% of the kids I see are somewhere from a good bit to extremely fucked up. And by kids, I mean people under the age of 20 all the way down to toddlers. The adults are just as fucked up. The vast majority of the US is severely mentally ill and undiagnosed. Depression and anxiety and PTSD run rampant in the streets. And our kids are inheriting it all. Well, not mine, cause I did the research and kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:29 PM
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lol how's this for challenging your view? People are abusive often. Sometimes by accident, sometimes on purpose, sometimes out of ignorance, sometimes out of malice. This tendency knows no gender, and a smaller subset of everyone are straight up abusive toxic ass people who should be avoided by everyone until and unless they fix themselves. Lots of men are trapped in abusive relationships. Lots of women are trapped in abusive relationships. The pendulum hasn't swung far at all dude. People do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:26 PM
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Your life has biased you towards extreme individualism and you have as a result devalued things like being a follower. Let me tell you, as someone who likes to lead, without a follower or two I am not a leader of anyone. Your attitude is a huge problem for women itself. The idea that women should lead themselves and never follow, as opposed to a healthy balanced view where people factually are leaders or followers and should learn to be themselves in a healthy, mindful, self protective way. Also…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:20 PM
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This post is a complete mess. I don't know what to address first, the inherent bias from your childhood or the false dichotomy you've got going on that modern women are what you think they are or that feminism is what you think it is. The one thing I will grant you is that we have a massive crisis of people (of all genders) not working on self improvement, self knowledge, or introspection. This is not an issue that is specific in any way to feminists and framing it as a feminist issue is pointle…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:17 PM
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This is just horse shit. I feel sorry for the life you've lead that cause you to think this is a factual phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:09 PM
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No, plenty of women like games. Video games are low status because they are now universal. Any guy they meet they assume plays games, so if that's what you have to talk about it's a glaring red flag for how boring you are as a person and how little you have to offer that you need to bring up video games at all in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 09:09 PM
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There is no actual hierarchy. Not across society that everyone is a part of. There are many small hierarchies. A job you have might be some asshole GM dude's fiefdom. Politics is a male dominated hierarchy that if you aren't in politics doesn't affect you that much outside of what those assholes vote for. There is no hierarchy except among men who choose to be a part of one or cannot see themselves outside of one, but the hierarchy they see themselves in and the place they see themselves at in i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:55 PM
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Childcare sucks. No, really. Go visit a daycare sometime. Most people's kids suck. People are garbage at parenting. My daughter hated day care, got along great with the teachers and the kids loved her, would all call her name and run to her. She hated it. People do not raise and teach their kids. They just shuffle them off to daycare. Kids raised like that, suck. The kids liking her didn't help that they were all fucked up messes of little people with zero self control, mindfulness, or empathy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:52 PM
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I feel like I could go and post in the thread you linked, it is interesting, but you didn't even make much of a comment or statement about it so there's nothing to respond to in *this* thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:42 PM
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On the one hand, no, you shouldn't by default with any woman you'll kill your chances with a fair few good matches that way. On the other hand, being open to it absolutely helps land hypersexual women if that's who you want to date. I don't require or push for sex on the first date, but it happens alot with the kind of women I date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:39 PM
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I'm not traditional and date non traditional people. My daughter is being raised non traditional. Our traditions with regards to gender are garbage rooted in male privilege, nothing more. It gives me pleasure to throw them out and watch my 5 year old yell at boys who harass her and hit back harder than she gets hit, while being kind and sweet to anyone who isn't mean to her first. I have to get her ready both for professional life and a post apocalypse, it's going well so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:36 PM
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Welcome to America dude. Your reading is right on. Though losers is not the way I would describe them. I would describe them as self defeating sophists with huge victim complexes who want to externalize blame for a lack of desired success. Loser is too unspecific for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:35 PM
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The obvious answer here is to tell her that youre jealous as hell and that rather than a fear of loss, it's envy of her experiences, and see if she's up for some orgies with you. Having a loyal girl who vouches for you is the easiest way into kink circles for straight men, if she's into swinging and you wanna not be so conservative instead of dealing with the emotions on the back side, deal with them on the front by evening out the experience a little bit and sharing some shit with her while you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:27 PM
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Right to work came from conservatives, destroying collective labor bargaining. You want your company to do well? Ok. That proveably won't benefit you, as evidenced by the growing inequality present in our country. Free markets are an adult fairy tale. A thing stupid old white men who do not understand economics OR human nature believe in. It's magical thinking, like a market is alive. Libertarians are the worst with it. "The free hand of the market is literal magical thinking" and the rest is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:25 PM
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Yeah I'm a guy and this soft soaping of men's egos is enabling and I want no part of it. Also, I'm bi, and I fucking REFUSE to date gay men because they need the same kinda bullshit ego babysitting that straight men do and suffer from the same privilege issue. Especially white gays. Some women are like this, I don't date them either. You're saying it's a good idea to be your husband/boyfriend's mommy. Maybe if you're both in your early 20s that's cool. Past about 25 it's a sign that you (they) a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 08:22 PM
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Yep. Same here. Even when it is totally the woman's fantasy, I haven't met a cuck couple yet where the man didn't either match or exceed her enthusiasm for her fucking other people. Like, it seems pretty common for hotwives to be "Yeah this is fun! New sex is pretty cool. Feeling hot and desirable is pretty cool" while the dude is either in the room or at home seconds away from cumming if ANYONE touches him he's so excited about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:45 AM
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I'm a dominant who's actually fucked hotwives with cuckolds lol I know people who actually live this lifestyle. The idea that people just want to watch their partners fuck? That's where people end up swinging together. Cuckolding is inherently submissive. Watching your wife fuck someone else is not, hence the common "Stag and hotwife" couple existing as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:35 AM
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That women's sexuality is by default submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:34 AM
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What's to explain? Submissive men in a society which emphasizes loyalty and a man owning his woman's sexuality seek to submit by surrendering control over their partner's sexual escapades to some degree or another. It's a form of surrender more specific to men than women because men are the ones who are supposed to be in control of their partners sexuality, though cuckqueans who like watching their men fuck other women the same way cuckolds do certainly exist as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:29 AM
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As a guy, I really, REALLY do not want to live in a world where every woman treats me like a loaded gun. How about men just stop raping? How about we men stop talking about what women should do to prevent rape and only talk about what we should do? How about you straight boys in your straight friend groups have grounded consent conversations when women aren't around? How about you stop victim blaming and acting like PERMANENT PARANOIA AROUND HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD IS REASONABLE! I have fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:25 AM
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I'm a fat dude and women like me, women's standards aren't that high unless you've genuinely got nothing to offer her but looks/sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:22 AM
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As someone who engages in CNC let me tell you that the desire to engage in fucked up, potentially violent sex is not a gender biased issue. It's an issue that women are far more allowed to talk about. Let's be real, we do not yet live in a world where I can talk about how much fun it is to hold down someone whos crying and fuck their ass without lube without providing lots of context about "No it was a negotiated scene and we'd done alot of impact before and I knew exactly how much she could tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:19 AM
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When I say it I mean an owned submissive in the BDSM sense. And from experience I can tell you as someone who actually likes dating submissive women, not all women are submissive and not all women with submissive tendencies are cut out to be BDSM real life submissives. But overall, submission is about following and dominance is about leadership and the vast majority of people in the world lead and follow as the situation calls for it. In that way, I would say that just because someone has submis…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:16 AM
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Hey Red Pill? When us blue pillers talk about avoiding women who play games? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Hun, why are you marrying a dude so stupid and immature that he'd buy a boat just to fit in anyway? I take by your example you regularly date the bottom half of men by intellect?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:14 AM
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Everyone who says that has no idea what submission is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 01:12 AM
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Lord. You don't understand dominance like at all. You described competition. Dominance is not about winning. Not in the slightest. Winning doesn't make you dominant, a drive to compete and win doesn't make you dominant. Dominance is about leadership. My sub follows me because I am a good, knowing leader who knows how to lead her to the places not only that she wants to go, but to places she cannot get to herself alone. Subspace is really hard to induce on yourself lol. Dominance is about being s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:58 AM
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lol you think women are what determine masculinity standards. No. Masculinity is and always has been primarily decided by men for the benefit of certain men over other men. Masculinity is a male power game that women stand by and watch, when you're talking about the traditional forms you specifically are talking about. I'm a bisexual dude with a huge feminine side and I get laid plenty. Have relationships, have fwb, sleep with people I am physically attracted to only, and have pretty high standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:24 AM
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If you aren't a millionaire there is no benefit to conservatism. Conservatism is screaming about moral issues to hide the economic issues that actually matter (and are the only things that actually matter) to conservatives. Everyone who votes conservative (at least in America) is either a rich person who needs to actually die, or a poor person who is stupid enough to think they're a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, or a bigot who is there for the social issues to begin with. There is no four…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:13 AM
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Ugh. On the one hand, your generalizations take things that could have a bit of truth and draw them into extremes that don't reflect reality. On the other hand, you view people who aren't getting laid as "Have nots" like sex is a commodity. I've slept around a good bit. My girlfriend has close to double my number. I could care less. I'm older than she is, so if you look at it through a different metric, thanks to relationships and swinging and serial monogamy I have had WAYYYYYY more sex if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:07 AM
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Not as red pill defines it, I'm actually friends with them and often continue the friendships after sex stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 11:54 PM
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If you wanna go dating I'd say overall it's a solid like 60% of people I generally avoid entirely and another 35% I'm just not personally compatible with in any way. Lots left in that 5% though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:52 PM
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Because it's correct. Men are taught to suppress emotions and do not learn how to deal with them while experiencing them. This causes men to have two modes. Logic driven mode that men all act like it's the pride and epitome of human thinking that lacks any cogent emotional input (empathy, stuff like that) and emotion mode where men are in their feelings and act like what they feel is true is objectively true in the world and demand that the world bow down to these untameable male emotions. I mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:44 PM
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If you're asking if I've ever walked up to a girl and asked for casual sex unprompted, no. I am open about my intentions with people and do ask directly for casual sex with people though. You just have to be talking to the right kind of people. I am a kinky person, I seek casual sex in kinky circles, and we're all pretty openly sexual and open to other people being sexual. So long as you're respectful about it. I am, and you would be amazed what you can ask people if you are respectful about it …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:33 PM
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Raising boys and girls without any daily co-ed socialization sounds like a fucking terrible idea on a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:29 PM
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You're committed to a shitty dude sounds like
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:08 PM
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That's a shrinking dating circle under the age of 40 and it's a pool full of absolute garbage to sift through.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:06 PM
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What would I do if we went back in time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:04 PM
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Why is it settling? See, the normal process of the human brain is to grow in complexity over time, corresponding to how we grow more complex as people. An 18 or 20 year old woman (or man) doesn't really know shit about what they need in an adult relationship, out of sex, etc yet. No one really knows themselves as an adult at 20, at least not in our culture. As people age, date, fuck, and refine their experience and understanding of their own needs and desires, priorities naturally change. Also, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 04:01 PM
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Ok, this is a thing that one person said, that rad fems (who are the KKK of the LGBT world) have repeated for clickbait type attention, etc. This is not a feminist idea. But the basic concept is that in a world where women are raised to be sexual objects for men, conditioned by media and culture to like value their own purity as a gift for men and shit, that in that world women cannot truly consent to equal sex because they've been conditioned to consent to inequal sex. It is a bad clickbaity me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 02:56 PM
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Hmm. Yes and no. I'm a bi dude and I have to say that rather than homophibic, it's more like this place is hetero-exclusive. I don't get hate reactions from TRPers when me being bi comes up in conversations. I get "Oh you're outside the demographics I'm talking about and not relevant to my thoughts" and such. I think that individual TRPers have some latent homophobia that's tied specifically to their ideas about traditional masculinity. That their ideas about what makes a man "beta" sometimes st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 02:53 PM
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Red pill is full of men who do not have the experience sleeping with multiple women that the women they decry do. It is a mixture of jealousy and insecurity at trying to date women who all have more life experience than these guys have access too and default resentment at the natural inequality of being a woman in a world full of men desperate for sex vs being a man in a world where women are not nearly so desperate for it on average. Red Pill conflates male desperation with male sex drive, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 02:47 PM
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Agree. FWB are more fun than random hookups when you're older. If someone is worth the investment to fuck at all, they're worth fucking more than once to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 02:43 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 02:34 PM
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Don't conflate male feminists with the kinda dudes who orbit hot, assholeish women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:47 PM
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Don't conflate male feminists with the kinda dudes who hang on hot assholish women. We are clearly not they.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:46 PM
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Not all women are worth dating. Some people suck. Elevate your dating pool. No one I've ever dated acts like you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:42 PM
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It's almost like men enter into codependent relationships which drain the woman and depend on her far too much and that's a really shitty deal for women to sign up for!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:41 PM
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Thiiiiissssssss
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:39 PM
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lol that's what you're gonna generalize about. The ability to not rape women. No mr "I'm gonna reduce your entire post down to one absurd point and pretend I'm making a cogent argument" it's the ability to not place the responsibility for my mental and physiological well being on women fucking me like the guy I'm responding to blatantly asked. And if you knew what the BDSM scene is like and how many shitty dudes exist who discourage things like safeword use you'd understand the comparison betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:24 PM
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You're generalizing away manipulative influence and how abuse actually works (cause you don't know things like the abuse -> oxytocin cycle) by saying "This person in general likely has nebulous other options that exist that should motivate them more than anything any specific guy has to offer" and that's not how people, emotions, etc work in the vast majority of contexts in the world. You've reduced human interaction to exactly one significant variable. That's dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 05:17 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 03:34 PM
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18 people, the kinda people I'm attracted to don't wait. If we don't have sex the first time we meet, it absolutely happens the second, every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 03:28 PM
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Opening up is a good thing. Venting your insecurities onto someone in a way that demands that they answer and be the source of your reassurance is another. Red Pill conflates the two. Owning your insecurities is in part about owning the responsibility for dealing with them yourself. If you can tell someone you're insecure about something without having to act out irrationally or demand that your partner change their behavior to accommodate your insecurity it goes down differently. I mean, it's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 11:37 PM
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Look at that first sentence. "The heck is an emotion if not a state of mind created bi our biological makeup" Baseline emotions are biological, yes. Humans have baseline emotional responses, anger, happiness, sadness, disgust, etc. These are shaded and transformed through context. A baby, sure, has a very few baseline emotional reactions to things. A few instinctual responses. Mimicry would be a third human instinct. Babies mimic what they see other humans doing. In doing so, in mimicing, babies…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 03:52 PM
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Actually your post is male solipsism at the worst. I'm a hypersexual male sex drive doesn't actually get higher than mine, I'm good multiple times a day every single day of my life. Like, I can't go 10 times in a day unless I've been denied a while, but I have a good hour or three of sexual energy to throw at anyone who's in the mood every single day of my life. I can't remember the last day I didn't masturbate, sex or no sex. Your perspective is based entirely on "If women just knew what it was…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 03:38 PM
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This is a thing I have literally never run into ever in my life in dating. The 35 year olds act like 35 year olds. The 23 year olds act like 23 year olds. Who is actually lying about their age? Do we have statistics on this because my anecdotal experience is that this is an urban myth,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 03:26 PM
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The only instincts people are born with are the instincts to suck at a nipple and to curl your hand around something that touches your palm. What you're talking about instinct, it's emotion. I am consistently floored by how often Red Pill type views conflate instinct and emotion. Red Pill acts like emotions are immutable by calling them instincts. This is what an adult child perspective is. Treating emotional desires like "instincts" and pretending that they're like evolutionary psychology and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 03:24 PM
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It amuses me. It's fun to watch her shoot dudes down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 07:54 AM
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Societal pressure I do not care about, but I prefer not to date under 25 these days absent a ton of chemistry that I don't feel like ignoring. Legal teenagers are fun to fuck, make good fwb. Dates? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 07:52 AM
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I'm attracted to men but I have male intimacy issues vis a vis an abusive father and so I cannot actually get emotionally close enough to men to date them. Like I can fuck men fine but when it comes to emotional intimacy with them, sharing how I feel and being vulnerable, my brain starts trying to run like hell
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:53 PM
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- Gen X women are much, much less likely to be in active treatement for mental illness, depression, anxiety, etc that most people have. - Gen X women are much much less likely to be friendly to LGBT people (I'm bisexual) - Gen X women are much more likely to be super shamey about non-monogamy and act like there's something wrong with you if you can't/won't commit emotionally and sexually to one person. I am not monogamous. - Gen X women are more likely to have unconfronted bigotry issues, like r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:33 PM
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Because younger women do not have life experience leverage to manipulate older men into situations that the older men do not have the life experience to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:28 PM
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lol internet feminism isn't just on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:23 PM
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I'll date my own age down to 20-22, depending on them. Currently talking to a 25 year old and living with a 26 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:21 PM
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Having tried dating up I can say on average yeah millenial women are 10x better than Gen x women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:20 PM
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Yeah no this is a false dichotomy. Older men use their experience primarily to enter into relationships that are slanted their way. They use their experience to find people who do not have the understanding of relationships they need to see that it's one sided. Exploitation is exploitation you're pretending that these men are getting into relationships with the intent of having a healthy, equal relationship when nothing could be further from the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 06:16 PM
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If you only knew how much bad sex resides on Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:53 AM
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That the women who fuck guys straight away and the women dating average guys and waiting for sex are likely two different populations of women. Lots of women do not participate in the casual sex market. Like, at all. Serial monogamists are totally a thing. Different women have different reactions dude. You're confused because you're trying to box all women down into like one type of person with one universal set of reactions and thats not how humans work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:52 AM
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Domestic abuse happens because people lie dude. There are more than one type of bad dude. The type you're talking about, the kind who gets radared, is the dude who openly has some fucked up ideas about how men and women should relate. The dude who often doesn't know that his views and actions are anywhere from problematic to abusive. There are lots of men like this in the world. Manchild is absolutely a specific description of a specific type of guy who has the uncontrolled emotional reactions o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:47 AM
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There is no such thing as actual unconditional love. The closes humans come to is obsessive love, which can grow in the absense of reinforcement and love from the other party. Normal human love, healthy love, requires reinforcement from the person you love on a regular basis. Relationship maintenance is a basic concept plenty of people know about, but why does a relationship have to be maintained in the first place? It's because love isn't unconditional and never has been and we've been pretendi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:33 AM
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I was overly nice in my teenaged years because my father was an abusive piece of shit who didn't leave me alone until I beat him straight up in a fist fight. The nice was how I appeased my abuser. I'm a confrontational asshole now. Turns out I was like this all along, I just hid it even from myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:22 AM
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Wow. You seriously think it's impossible to build a new social circle past high school. The fuck are you straight people even doing with life this is like all the gays among us spend our time doing once we escape our parents houses, build community and find family you choose. The fact you think this is impossible lol, you're exactly the kind of not sociable person the OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:19 AM
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Men are emotionally stunted by society on purpose, of course women have deeper friendships on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 11:03 AM
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You're dipping into Gen X territory which is going to skew your numbers. Of all the generations present today Gen X got fucked the hardest and subsequently imo ended up the most fucked up. I am 34 and refuse to date up, not because there is an issue with older women in general but because all the women older than me are gen Xers who I would not touch with a ten foot pole. That generation is just a bonanza of untreated mental illness normalized as "personal quirks" And feminism isn't murky. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 10:55 AM
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Yeah that's not true at all. Your standards for what makes for a toxic situation for kids is pretty low if you think this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 10:52 AM
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Do me a favor and google "People are putting off marriage" and just see what you get. How many articles a year across the internet for the past idk like five years you think you can find? A few hundred? More? Hint: Lots of our parents refused to divorce and should have and we're all gunshy as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:47 PM
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Yeah I read the article. Saying that women's LTR choices are primarily economic is not a statement the article makes, it's yours. The article leads you in that direction without stating it because it's an incorrect statement. The study is a one dimensional attempt to explain a mutating social concept that people are actively moving away from on all sides. Red Pill and Blue Pill alike are not thrilled with the concept of marriage. We talk about it in here CONSTANTLY that people are not getting ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:44 PM
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I dumped her. And no that's not me making up some shit, it didn't work out because there were specific things I was looking for and being taken care of monetarily wasn't one of them, so the other things were dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:36 PM
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People often choose to get married when they achieve financial stability. We have an economy designed to deny that to a majority of people. Saying that women choose long term relationships for purely economic reasons ignores that people do factually choose long term without marriage in the absence of mutual economic stability and that people are also choosing away from marriage for a multitude of other reasons. If you wanna talk about how kids do please cite me something. I know all about child …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:35 PM
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Agree. Anecdotal evidence, Recently had a nurse who works 60 hours a week and makes 120k a year express serious interest in a dude who is more than willing to be a stay at home dad and has his own kids. It didn't work out, but the idea that women are not willing to be the breadwinners? Maybe they just don't trust you to take care of a house lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:25 PM
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You do realize that both men and women under 35 have increasingly seen marriage itself as undesirable and that at the same time millenials have like a massive history of serial monogamy and long term cohabitation. I've been with my partner for 4 years we don't really talk about getting married. We use the term partner to indicate someone we do not intend to leave. That's increasingly common. People are exploring polyamory alot, which is at odds with traditional notions of marriage. You're pinnin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 07:24 PM
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You know, when I read the title I thought that the intent was to say that Blue Pill are just here to mock red pill, who are bullies. And I thought to myself, for some of us that might well be the only real purpose blue pill has, they come here to vent stress at online bullies and go home or something. And then I read and I realized that you see Red Pill as the victims here. The nerds lol. Alright so like I've been around for a long time. Back when /r/jailbait or whatever existed and before we ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 03:33 PM
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Things are different. 30 year old women mostly weren't into me in my 20s and are now, and women in their 20s are still into me. My dating pool is wider. Red Pill talks about an abundance mentality. I have kinda the polar opposite. There are a ton of women in the world, most of them aren't people I am compatible enough with to really want to date. I am a kinky person, I am a poly person, I am not monogamous, and while some women very much vibe with that, others do not. Some of the women who vibe …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 03:01 PM
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Why are you comparing who makes more in a country where wages have been mostly frozen since 1980 and we're all underpaid?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 02:49 PM
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I love people who put stuff this way. You already subsidize things worse than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 09:55 PM
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You are really caught up on dick size dude. The rules of dicks mirror the rule of Tinder. "Be over 5 inches. Don't be under 5 inches"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:55 PM
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It's 2019 why do you think anyone is on grindr. Surprise, not all of us men in here are straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:54 PM
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The basic principle of UBI is that correctly adopted it would amount to a sustainable wage that allows you live a basic life. The idea is that you do not have to work to survive, changing the nature of labor participation in the market and giving them an inherent power against the collective negotiating power of corporations that they did not have before. So, in my ubi pipe dream it would probably be considerably more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:48 PM
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Men are trained for stoicism and women are not. Women are trained for performative emotions. So where a man might feel and show nothing, a woman might show and feel nothing. There's no objective way to measure this so I tend to settle on "Evidence suggests everyone is miserable"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:44 PM
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Pretty much never. So on the one hand, I know lots of guys who settled down with girls with higher N counts than them. The easiest way to describe it is these women went into sex very one dimensionally. They fucked guys who turned them on in an instant gratification kinda way. And that wore off, often pretty quickly. Instant gratification sex is often not great sex. If you're fucking a guy for his face, well, how many other things can be lacking? Girls found out, quite alot. Red Pill talks about…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:43 PM
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Games and dishonesty are number 1. Serious denial complexes about their lives number 2. Lack of consideration for others number 3. Addiction in any form number 4. Nongendered list (bi guy), anyone who ticks these boxes I avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:31 PM
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Red Pill is a reaction to the vanishing of male privilege from dating faster than just about any other space in the world. Feminism has not come to congress like it's come to dating. When this all first sprang up, when the biggest hub on Reddit was /r/MensRights and Red Pill wasn't actually a term in common useage yet, it was a mixture of men angry about divorces, PUAs who were angry at being called out for straight date rape tactics (Isolate her at your house, drive her so she can't leave, get …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:25 PM
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I've seriously dated a single mom. I'm in my 30s, have kids of my own, and so the thought of adding someone else's kid to the house wasn't exactly offensive, she'd be taking care of mine as well. It didn't end up working out but hey. And some men are built to be dads. I think I was. I knew I wanted kids when I was 12 and it never changed. When that's just like who you are as a person, the thought of dating a woman who has kids is alot less scary, like even to a guy who doesn't have his own kids.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 03:06 PM
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This is true. I am a huge slut and very sexually positive. I enjoy swapping sex stories both good and the fun horror stories. Women feel more comfortable being their sexual selves around me because of it. If you've got your jealousy and insecurity handled, if you can be open about sex, you draw people in when they're interested in it. I generally end up in my first conversation about sex, kinks, desires, fantasies, etc by the second day of talking to a woman that we're interested in each other. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:56 PM
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That's irrational. You're literally saying that you can't overcome like false positive emotions about women without countering it with some serious emotional negativity. That's not how brains work dude. The actual goal is mindfulness. Not countering it but stepping the fuck outside of your emotions for five minutes and trying to observe them objectively. Countering irrational emotions with irrational emotions is clinically unhealthy. Any therapist could tell you that. It forces you too far in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:42 PM
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I would rather enshrine in law that disallowing abortion is akin to forcing one person to provide a transfusion or organ donation to another person and that rather than focusing on the unborn fetus we should focus on a woman's right to end the physical state of pregnancy and not go through one. The fetus dying is an unfortunate side effect of a woman's right to not experience pregnancy. If we focused our attention there, there's really nothing more for men to say or tack on, as men cannot experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:31 PM
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Depending on your definition of fit I've found a few of those. But you gotta be a dom to get them. Niches are fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 07:33 PM
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As someone who's shit is definitely not all together, visible progress fucking matters. If you have low self esteem, get a therapist. Take it seriously. Work on that shit. You don't have to be DONE working on that shit. You need to be working on that shit. Women care less about where exactly you are than where you're going and how. They aren't just gonna date you today. Dating goes into the future. Where are you going in the future? If they feel like you're going in a good direction, you'll get …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 04:51 PM
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Consider going on fetlife and looking up dommes and just chatting with them. Find ones in relationships and have a completely platonic conversation where you ask them all about their life if they're willing to talk about it. See how you feel interacting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 04:11 PM
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lol np.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 04:10 PM
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The red pill idea that men are the true romantics comes from I think the reality that men really are the more emotional gender. More emotionally reactive, often more emotionally sensitive naturally. Except, you know, trained stoicism. You can't turn the stronger sex into cubicle drones or soldiers if they're in their feels constantly and being guided healthily by them. So while women are the naturally more pragmatic, men have been trained to go further than that and be unhealthily pragmatic. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 04:06 PM
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You are both wierd insecure people who formed a bond over agreed upon mutual exchange to cement security in the relationship in places other than just emotional security with each other. That wouldn't work for 7 years if she wasn't alot like you in certain mental ways. A traditionalish relationship formed out of mutual need.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:58 PM
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I think you've got the problem wrong. What you just described is one of the common aspects of dating RP kinda does understand and is mad about. They don't want there to be different standards. RP men see that lightning attraction of casual sex as something they want in their relationships. They want to feel like that guy with the woman they're with, and don't because of her past history. You see RP talking at times about "getting a raw deal" when a woman doesn't want to do like whatever sexual e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:55 PM
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Huh so in the end your answer was similar to the other people here who find success in some form. Like seeks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:45 PM
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I don't really know how to explain the bias to you right this second, I'll think on it. I just disagree on the attractiveness thing, I think a ton of attraction is socialized and about who and what you've been exposed to. You're absolutely right that RP doesnt apply to a ton of women. The entire LGBT population, neurodivergent women, etc. Just by default, none of them work the way Red Pill says. It has been discussed that red pill focuses primarily on American, mostly white, mostly middle to upp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:44 PM
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I guess it depends on your definition of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:36 PM
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Mostly same. An increasing segment of the dating population every year too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:36 PM
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You need a dominant woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:35 PM
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Jesus. Maybe go see a therapist? You sound more miserable on a daily basis than I am and I get to deal with regular CPTSD suicidal ideation that has literally nothing to do with how my life is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:34 PM
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lol ok then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:33 PM
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Like meets like. Everyone so far whos had a specific answer gives this one. If you aren't finding success, guys, pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:32 PM
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There you go. Simple and effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:32 PM
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Yeah... My woman cooks, cleans, and fucks. But I have to do those too. That's the non traditional part. I don't get a clean house unless I do half the work. I don't get a home cooked meal every day unless I do half the cooking. I don't get laid... lol well that's probably the smallest problem I have right now. But still I have to like put in the effort, throw her some good foreplay regularly, make sex about her a good bit to keep her coming back. As long as I do, though... The traditional part i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:29 PM
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I feel like you should actually add a few qualities to your list of sought out things. You have you handled, but have no actual path to seduce someone because you don't have a full type to seduce, imo. I like bubbly and kind. I also like hypersexual bisexual submissives who are bookwormish and like to read alot. Prefer girls who like pets but aren't obsesssed with them and who enjoy domestic tasks from a nontraditional standpoint where if I am cleaning she'll get up and help because she wants a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:21 PM
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Oh god not that. You know that was entirely because of the male power structure where the property owners used the lesser men as spear fodder attacking other tribes to obtain more property. Women were at that point, property. The men who didn't get laid didn't get laid because they weren't allowed to. By other men. This is history. That article is absolute horseshit that got disproven like a couple of years ago in this very sub, that's why I haven't seen anyone bring that up in a while, I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:17 PM
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Sanity is high on everyone's list.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:16 PM
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The chameleon thing...no sense of self. External success and predatory "Find someone who is desperate" The problem with desperation seeking is, of course, that the woman expects to stop being desperate in a relationship with you and I bet she does not, so in the end she leaves. Super unhealthy way to live dude. Trapping someone is a super unreliable way to get women to want to be affectionate and love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:15 PM
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=/ Yeah girls who don't incite drama absolutely exist in droves, just not in Tinder Culture. Why don't you attract them do you think? Personal answer, not red pill jargon. If it's too personal I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:12 PM
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Yeah see, "won't ever" is false by default, but even if that weren't a logical fallacy that is straight up not true. You seriously see all women as the same because there are enough of your type out there that your anecdotal experience is that your type is the world, and Red Pill is designed to self select away from women it does not work on, and fast, so they really don't form a part of your perspective despite existing. And worse, you can't see that alot of how the sexes see each other in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:06 PM
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Even I won't say status matters to no women. It's that you can't generalize across all women about any of it. For example, there are women who are sincerely turned on by men in uniform and what it represents. It isn't HIGH status that these women are into. It's the status of a cops authority, or the status of being a fucking hero who gets on a truck and charges into burning buildings, or the status of being a military man, or whatever else. Status definitely matters in dating, but it matters to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:29 AM
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Okcupid is full of girls who self describe as nerdy. So are the r4r subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:23 AM
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You're literally the first person to respond saying "I put out what I look for"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:22 AM
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Brazil, ok. Sorry bout your forests.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:22 AM
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Yeah I can't agree with this at all and with "consolidated all that makes a man attractive" I don't think there's common ground here. That's such a radical oversimplification of what makes men attractive I genuinely don't know how to even address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:21 AM
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Ok then yeah I'm literally dating someone who's not into fetish culture rn. I am a dom and being so gives me access to a niche others have no access to. I still have to meet standards, and the standards I have to meet as a dominant are wayyyyyyy higher than just your average straight girl. I'll be honest, by my standards most women's standards are on the floor. You'd have to dig to lower them. "Women are very similar to one another and their sexuality works the same way" I cannot agree with thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:18 AM
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Now this is more of an answer. Thanks for the input
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:10 AM
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Yeah true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:08 AM
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No but every TPR man I've ever encountered in the actual world was an angry dude who has serious issuse getting laid. I didn't comment on it cause it's anecdotal, but that's my experience. Not like there are studies to go on so idk but I don't see TRP men admit weakness much or complain directly about their personal lives, at least not in this forum, so I have a lack of data to really know one way or the other. I admitted in another thread the manipulation tactics Red Pill likes absolutely work …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:07 AM
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I was trying to figure out why your answer felt off to me even for RP and then I saw other country, so I guess fair, I have zero idea what socialization is like in whatever country you're from. And money and status just got thrown in together cause it's habit. Though I am like 3/3 on really simplistic and generalized personality desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:03 AM
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Huh fair. I select for humor. Specifically go looking for girls who can make me laugh. Among other things but it's one of the criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 01:00 AM
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Support, bragging, continuing to be a part of a commmunity of like minded people I imagine. Though I have heard RPers say pretty much the same thing themselves. That they're all beta. There are always a few people who talk like they're RP and have active sex lives and find the success they want with it. Few and far between, but they pop up in threads. No idea if they're actually successful or not, it is the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:57 AM
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So your biggest selection criteria is humor and a lack of anxiety. Fair. How do you attract fun women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:54 AM
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So a very generalized view of women and criteria that literally any woman could match. What's the way you attract all women? I do have to disagree, though I am not in the actual Red Pill subs, I've not seen much evidence of success at all. I have seen alot of men call themselves betas or former betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:52 AM
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Yasssss finally someone who sees the self selection bias away from healthy relationships and people that Red Pill engages in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:49 AM
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Believe me when I say that my dominance is in no way "standard alpha behavior" dude. And it isn't game. I mean, I have game, not saying that. But this is who I am. Subs can tell, like without me telling them, that I am a dominant. I have that feel or whatever, or so I've been told. Completely un/subconsciously. Game is conscious. It's the choices and methods you use to seduce. In the BDSM world, game is worth less than most places because there are far many more doms (fake doms) who can only tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:49 AM
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Everyone has a niche dude. Everyone exists in niches. Humans are like 90% alike 10% different anyway, we way overemphasize differences to stand out from the crowd of similarly socialized mammals all using similar money systems and worrying about bills and sex and what to eat for dinner. Standards aren't lower. If anything they're much higher. Intelligent submissives have highhhh fucking standards for behavior and personality dude. But like, do you think I just walked in? No. I chose my market an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:20 AM
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Tinder is not the world dude. Tinder is a vocal minority of the dating population. There's literally a thread about how there are only about 20 million American Tinder users and men outnumber women on that app like 2-1. Only about ten million regular active users on the app alltogether, which most of are not in the US. Data is beautiful sure you get some nice numbers. Numbers that in context don't mean a whole hell of alot. Tinder also appeals to certain specific kinds of personalities. I have l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:06 AM
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Compatibility is made up of alot more than those four things. Money is less relevant, lots and lots of people do not have any and don't expect their partners to, millenials are saddled with trillions in school debt, people under 35 don't care about money unless they have some themselves and most of us don't. Game isn't about hypergamy at all, it's part of attraction but not something people "date up" for. There is no "up" with game. You have it or you don't. And that matters or it doesn't. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 12:02 AM
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A red pill idea that I agree with? I agree that instilling dread, keeping emotional distance, being the less invested, absolutely hands you the power in the relationship if you can maintain it and they don't see through it. It's very effective manipulation that works on just about anyone who doesn't know what's actually going on. I think it's super fucked up, but I agree that it works. I disagree with just about everything else. I think hypergamy generalizations take "People like to date the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 11:42 PM
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Sounds suspiciously blackpill. Saying you can't talk a woman into bed (or talk yourself out of her bed) is just appallingly unrealistic. No there are no rules and no magic bullet. But acting like social interaction can't severely increase your chances of getting laid with an individual you have good conversation with is just straight denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 09:33 PM
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Well, welcome back from the echo chamber at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 08:24 PM
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lol welcome back to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 08:21 PM
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Just came to laugh at tinder statistics being thoroughly torn apart, carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 03:19 PM
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Just pointing out a source bias here, rape kits are going to come by and large from the kinds of rape that are most likely to drive someone to the cops. Violent rapes are way more likely to be reported than drunk/date rapes. Even so, we have known for quite a while that not all men are actually rapists. The problem has been, the major feminist line has been, that social standards allowed rapists to hide way too easily under a plausibly deniable curtain of "men are supposed to make the moves" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 12:41 PM
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18 partners. I pick and choose who I go after and am not a fan of ONS. The criteria is selection, that's why I said that close rate is a bad measure. It only holds relevance in proportion to like an approach rate. How many women do I try to sleep with? A few more than I've gotten to. And like, I don't consider flirting to see if a woman flirts back to be trying to sleep with her. How do you wanna measure the intention to sleep with someone? It just all seems really subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 09:56 AM
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This is in context to you asking a woman out and the first thing you bring up when doing so. Are you saying that men should advertise to all women all the time how attracted they are? Cause that's genuinely more information than women care to have about guys they aren't interested in. Are you saying like maybe men doing business deals with women meeting them for the first time should blurt out "I think you're hot and I want to fuck you, now you know my bias"? I can't figure out what the world yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 09:23 AM
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Came here to post this. 100% honesty gives no one any room to handle their emotions in private or have an inner monologue that's personal to them. 90% works really well in relationships. And priority matters. Of course we shouldn't comment about appearance first. Why? Because a woman assumes that you're attracted, attracted enough to *approach her*. Absent vanity, she doesn't need any more immediate information about your attraction. It is uninteresting to her compared to additional topics she c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 08:19 AM
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If you want to date up in appearance you have to have something else to offer. Money does work, red pill is at least not wrong about that. Status can, depending on the type. My advice is to offer a new option. Whatever your objective, being able to fluidly relate, remember the shit she says, treat her with a default level of human respect, and entertain her in conversation is a huge thing to offer. People thirst after social interaction. Whether or not they're looking to attach it to sex, no one…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 08:08 AM
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A ratio seems like a really bad way to measure it. I'm at best a 7 and I bat better than 400. I know my audience and if I go after someone it usually happens. Probably 4/5 times. And then, like, how do you define attempt?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 08:02 AM
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Hmm who are the people who are attracted to you and who are the ones you're attracted to? That's definitely a problem but one that is more individual. Why is there a gap between who you want and who wants you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:44 AM
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I get what you're saying and yeah in general as an N type I am primarily attracted to other N types.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:39 AM
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100% isn't healthy. Timing matters. Context matters. I think like 95% though is. Brutal honesty isn't really conducive to good communication both ways, and immediate honesty ignores that timing matters. But if people were more honest people would be forced to adapt to more honesty and I think the world would improve with the increase in accountability possible when everyone is not disingenuous by default until they decide they can or want to trust someone. I think current society and social poli…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:37 AM
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This is like the single most common piece of advice I see given to men by men for self improvement. Need a date? Lift. Need confidence? Lift. Need to be healthier? You don't need cardio, Lift! It's a little ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:34 AM
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Ok but why are the people you're attracted to not interested in conversation? Who are these people? Are you specifically attracted to women who want to like meet and fuck with as little talking as possible? Need more context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:30 AM
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Well that's the dating advice. Casual sex advice varies by what you're looking for. I can't help you much with one night stands. I'm not a fan myself, I never learned how to pursue it. Talking to a girl for a week on an app and then being fwb or taking her out on a date? That I do pretty regularly. Swinging and kink stuff? Do that too. Another thing I think red pill is quietly hamstrung by is a focus on instant gratification. I feel like alot of guys are like angry at the idea that yeah maybe yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:19 AM
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Wow. Quite the defensive reaction. Yeah it's on you to set YOUR boundaries. I didn't say the boundaries of the entire relationship, I said yours. I told you to figure yourself out, and I feel like you don't like that concept. I would pen a longer response but your issue seems to boil down to envy and an inability to get whatever level of sexual interaction you want in your life. I said that you have to be able to hand a woman a healthy relationship, that means your side of it. At no point did I …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/19 04:09 AM
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Continued. And btw I will say part of blue pill, and also my personal opinion, is that controlling things like jealousy because your girlfriend has tried anal, didn't like it at all, and doesn't want to try it with you, falls under the heading of expected self control. Get over it or break up without treating her like shit about it and go specifically find someone who's into anal. Bring it up the first time you have sex and if she's not into it, don't see her again. You don't have to be rude or …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:12 PM
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You ask what blue pill dating advice is? What it is a bad explanation for very complex concepts about how human emotions, maturity, and attraction work. It's trying to reduce more than a few books worth of information into a paragraph or three online. The funny thing, ok. So you said you think Red Pill is about making yourself into the kind of man women want to sleep with. I don't think that's true. I think Red Pill is about making yourself into the kind of man you want to be without regard to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 03:12 PM
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Lol no that's what Red Pill is. I'm someone who's studied human psychology and sociology enough to have figured out what's wrong with our society. Funny thing, more people agree with me than don't. That wasn't the case when I started saying this shit 15 years ago. Also lol @ the fact you're joining in a comment thread about how good men are at running things in a world that's been headed off a cliff since the moment we developed the technology to shit up the environment enough to kill it, or at …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 12:59 PM
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You're mistaking what golddiggers are. Women who's focus is child rearing have a shitload of other factors involved in choosing relationships besides just material wealth. Being a single mother living in luxury because your husband doesn't do shit for the kid is still hard as fuck. Being father material eclipses social status, attractiveness to some degree, and money issues to some degree especially these days where relationships are often less traditional and men are expected to be involved fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 01:05 AM
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History tells us that they'll more likely just steal/take credit for it. Also you have a child's notion of what investment and starting a business is actually like. Know what a business plan is? Ever tried to apply for a serious business loan?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 12:51 AM
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That laughter is your brain's discomfort reaction because you just said some dumb generalized shit in a "look how smart I am durr" tone and you know literally nothing about history, patriarchy, or anything else involved in the conversation so you don't have anything else to really respond with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 12:50 AM
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80% of what spending? What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 12:48 AM
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Humans may go extinct within the next 200 years because a primarily male controlled power structure has destroyed the planet for profit. Empirical evidence is that men are god awful at running things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 12:26 AM
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Right! Just build a company! Not that women control the capital required to do so for the most part. Just start a fortune 500 company! You sound like you suffered a few dozen concussions when you were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 12:25 AM
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How old are you? You sound gen X. Women looking at your shoes, the severe emphasis on social status that no on has, if you are I get it. Gen X imo got the hardest shaft of any generation and no one talks about it. No internet, fully fractured communities in adulthood, a rapidly diminishing safety net and reganism on all sides, the death of "the american dream" and all that shit. The end of wage growth just as they hit the workforce en masse. I have never tried to interact romantically with a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 05:54 PM
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I'm a polyamorous feminist lol Just because a woman is a feminist doesn't mean she can't internalize other bad ideas. No one is perfect. White feminism is a fucking problem. One feminist problem, not the only one. I'll be the first to offer critiques. The gender critical "Rad Fem" crowd are literally a hate group specifically targeted at trans people who still try to take part in mainstream feminist dialogue. Feminism isn't perfect. It's not "The Solution" it is a widespread attempt to address r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 04:43 PM
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I really don't believe a free market is possible. A free market requires that no entity have the financial power to manipulate an entire market on purpose to exist, or that laws directly prevent that. Look at where we ended up with capitalism. Like, I get that in a free market society if it was actually sustainable some of the ideas you're talking about might actually work long term and capitalism could be sustainable. But it all depends on that and you know what kills the free market? The inevi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 04:01 PM
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This genuinely isn't how most people form relationships and while, yes, sex work has exploded, that's more a reaction to widespread poverty than like a result of women just widespread objectifying men and seeing them as walking wallets. I feel like it's kinda ridiculous, in a sub where RP is specifically complaining constantly about the free casual sex market and female hypergamy as dictated by their irrational desires, to then come in and say that women are as any kind of a trend being too calc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 03:52 PM
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Agree. Adulthood is a farce and the only real measure of it is taking personal responsibility for your life and emotions, beyond that it's all bullshit and the vast majority of people (at least in America) don't really seem to know how to manage their emotions like adults. I spend a fair amount of time chuckling/cringing through places like /r/niceguys and the number of people out there who are just like one trigger (rejection) away from some kinda meltdown is insane. And I feel like on the male…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 03:41 PM
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It's changed some things. Social circles often exist online. People on PPD talk about Tinder constantly, and not only are there a bunch of busy non matching dating apps, but there's an entire internet full of meeting places for local communities. Fetlife is covered in BDSM people having munches every month to give new people and isolated people personal face to face access with the BDSM community. And full of people using Fet as a dating site. Reddit has a shitload of R4R subs. Everywhere you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 03:21 PM
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Ok, pure collectivism in a society where everything is really scarce, no it isn't going to work. Pure collectivism in a society that isn't in any way globalized? Not going to work. Pure collectivism in a time when you can't have an involved voting populace that is factually informed on the countries issues and has the ability to respond and be aware in real time of serious evens going on in their country? Yeah it doesn't work. I will try to remember to look those two authors up later. Saved the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 03:05 PM
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Humans arrive with a very few base level instincts like nursing and closing our hands when something touches our palm and pretty much everything else about us is socialized. Red Pill puts out theories on how humans function while operating primarily from a western (primarily American) perspective and ignores things like regional variances in socialization and custom and tries to oversimplify every argument into only the datapoints that support their arguments. They generalize on attraction far t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 04:07 AM
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Pretty much anything having to do with mental illness is mental illness shit and doesn't have too much to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:09 AM
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No idea. I can't imagine Red Pill concepts being universally accepted. They're just so wrong. It wouldn't be the world we currently live in. For them to be universally accepted they'd have to be right, and that's factually not how humans work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 02:03 AM
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lol dude the only girls who complain about viewing habits are girls with jealousy issues and they aren't the majority, though they are vocal. Addiction on the other hand is a valid thing to complain about. Work, drugs, porn, pop culture, addiction fucks up the addicts life and the lives of everyone who loves them. I don't fuck with addicts of any flavor, bad experiences with both friends and relationships. Porn addition fucks up home lives. Addiction is a problem that's not about the fucking gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 01:56 AM
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Normal is an entirely subjective concept designated primarily by the reactions of people who are statistically more average than not why would I even care about normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 01:45 AM
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Youre really wishing hard for this aren't you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 03:02 PM
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Literally nothing. Dave chappelle being a gen xer whos very out of touch in some ways and not a role model for anyone isn't going to give the idea of legal paternal surrender any traction or teeth, you're just spinning escapist fantasy because someone who makes you laugh said something really fucking stupid that you happen to agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:29 PM
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I'd genuinely like to physically castrate every guy in here who's like "oh no there's actually not that much rape and girls should just accept some of what you think is rape because we think you're being sensitive and men should be allowed to do the things that we won't ever publicly acknowledge happen" Moments like this are why I still kinda hate red pill. It's like the male dating version of the blue wall of silence with cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:27 PM
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"Women are generally not attracted to working class men" Are you aware that in America more than half the working population live paycheck to paycheck? Like millenials as a generation are bereft of savings and saddled with debt and gen X is not doing so great because the boomers can't afford to retire and so gen x has no up to move up to and millenials and now starting Gen Z are serious job competition and it's all fucked. And you really think your stratified class bullshit reflects reality? You…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:27 AM
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Red Pill, the manosphere, traditionalist men who want to put men in the lead whether they deserve to lead or not, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:56 PM
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Not sure yet, not sure we'll survive as a species long enough to reach it either. I don't think there will be humans alive by the time my kids would have grandkids, but if we don't all die or end up as half life warboys in Fury Road the real life drama, I think that the stability will return when people (as they are starting to now) reject things like Tinder as a primary means for people to meet and date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:54 PM
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Yeah but that's anyone reasonable. Men are socialized to be hypersexual but for many men that fades and they want a stable sexual relationship, not wild wings of excitement. Men are reactive, have you ever seen a guy who's tired from work when his girlfriend pulls out the lingerie and toys to cheer him up? Saying that female sex drive is reactive a factually inaccurate over-generalization in RP context because they're talking about it's off without interference, even if you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:49 PM
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Who cares if it's normal, it's fun
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:36 PM
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It's a fun way to structure a BDSM relationship with someone and with gen X and the boomers being such awful parents it's hard to find a girl who doesn't have some daddy issues hidden somewhere. :Edit: Cant tell if thread is full of sour grapes, or full of SUPER boring people with awful sex lives, or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:35 PM
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It's happening more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:34 PM
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You must be kidding. I'd totally fuck a ghostbuster 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:32 PM
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I think unable. Most of my friends are girls, all of the women I date are usually pretty attractive and the kind who get flooded with messages online and such. I get sent all kinds of awkward screenshots from dudes from multiple sources and especially since I tend to talk to kinky girls I feel like the usual problems get exacerbated a bit. It's like, there's a bunch of fucked up, fun, kinky, freak-flag-flying sex going on in the world. But not everyone has access. Some people have the access the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:31 PM
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Better imo. This is not the endgame. This is the middle of societal change that takes place over generations. We're the first iteration, things will continue to develop if we don't kill the biosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:22 PM
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I date hypersexual people so not only have I never tried to hold off, all my best relationships have been with people who in no way wanted to. I've got a sub I'm talking to now, met her online two days ago, it's already clearly established that the first time she has time to come over I'm going to throw her around and fuck her silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:21 PM
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I think you hit it on the head with 2. People are not mature. People in America specifically are mostly not adults. If you define adulthood by the ability to accept accountability for the shit you actually do wrong and work to fix it, the ability to take personal responsibility not just for your actions but for your emotions, I'd say 75% of both sexes in our country are adult children regardless of orientation, gender, whatever. Also like 2/3 people under 35 that I talk to came from moderately t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:16 PM
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I date 10 years down plenty. Almost 35, talking to a 23 year old sub rn, it's going well. 25 would be illegal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:13 PM
1

No, alphas are a personality type. Defined by internal characteristics, not external success.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:12 PM
1

Learning to address my internal biases and recognize sexist, disrespectful habits and behavior let me work on and trim lots of little things that were getting in the way of me actually having fluid interactions with women and the result has been that I actually like online dating and have had alot of success finding people I actually like who actually like me rather that the crapshoot of "She's cute and acting nice, maybe I'll take her out on a date and see if there's anything worth exploring be…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:11 PM
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I see them throwing social interaction at women without paying attention to or understanding the responses they get and just going off some proprogrammed "boyfriend behavior" they think they're supposed to do rather than having any kind of organic relationship or intimacy with anyone and finding that women get bored with them really fast. Also they suck in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:05 PM
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Men think women don't care about N count because you as a virgin waiting until marriage are at this point a statistical irrelevancy as people who think like you are a shrinking population at least in America with every passing year and the vast majority of women either won't ask or will only ask out of curiosity. My experience personally is that N counts don't decide if a woman will date or fuck you, and they only really care about it if you're really good or really bad in bed, with opinions var…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:02 PM
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If it worked it would be going mainstream lol. It does not, and it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:56 PM
2

Amateurly produced group sex porn is generally some of the most unproblematic porn I've seen and since that's kinda my biggest kink, well, bonanza.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:53 PM
3

I'm raising my daughter to be intelligent, kind, sweet, and when necessary completely ruthless. It's going well, all I need to do is teach her how to actually physically hurt people and she'll be set for the collapse of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:51 PM
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Women's sexuality isn't just reactive that generalization is patriarchal bullshit to deny women agency and at the same time starfish are boring and "maintinence sex" is more than being a literal fleshlight unless that's your kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:48 PM
1

The idea that female sexuality is reactive is a myth spread to continue and justify the generalization that men are "supposed" to sexually harass women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:42 PM
2

I generally find out N Counts on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:41 PM
1

Because Red Pill spends more time talking about casual sex than relationships, being focused on getting laid over getting a long term commitment and often eschewing long term commitments altogether. While they sometimes generalize about what women who want to marry rich do, they also do not focus much on seeking that population or figuring them out and it's kind of a sidenote to their more central thesis about hypergamy being women being severe lookists who don't wan't to have casual sex with av…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 04:43 AM
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You'll never hear me say that Red Pill never has a valid complaint. I wouldn't be on a debate forum with them if they were nuts like, say, /r/braincels. No one has taken note that at no point have I told women what they should do. This was a question that asked why we (men) care. I am the blue pill perspective, but I am a man who is directly affected by this in my daily life and I have a perspective that answered the question. The fact that my genuine experience as a feminist guy is this and rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 04:28 AM
1

Actually the answer is healthier emotional education so people actually emotionally grow up and learn to handle difficult emotions instead of becoming a country of reactionary avoidance artists who consider the best life to be insulating yourself from everything you don't like with enough wealth/power to not be accountable to anyone who doesn't have a judge behind them. That way people will be adults capable of beginning to really handle the world critically by the time we send them off to colle…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 04:27 AM
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How I dress, how I am groomed, the pictures I take, sure those are mostly under my control. Lots of other things about me, like being bald, are just dealbreakers to some people and attractive to others. In that way, something out of my control really like slices through the pool of potential dating options in really polarizing ways. I accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 04:24 AM
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Oh look the throw in response from someone who has nothing of substance to say
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 04:23 AM
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Ok and I am a dominant who's had casual sex with submissive women who know themselves well enough that the specific conversation about limits and needs literally takes about ten minutes to get a good baseline sense of each other. Sex is an act, not all of us have intimacy explicitly attached to it. In fact, this is a sub somewhat dedicated to that concept on both sides. Still doesn't change the fact that the specific "not a fully formed adult" that you look for makes it creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 04:22 AM
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You sound like you're not really educated in these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/19 04:18 AM
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Because our first associations in this world aren't generally with loving parents who are much bigger than us, right? Because we're innately cautious of our formal attachments when they're healthy? Cause that's how human cognition works. I actually know the neuroscience behind this a bit, and you're making generalizations that sound like you would have to source me with posts from your facebook feed. People do not work the way you think they do. Mental associations like this are not "natural thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:56 PM
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From evo psych to "it's what parents teach their kids" and you're still missing the nuances of the argument for shits and giggles. I'm done. Well, one thing. I didn't say assume I'm a good guy. I said approach situations without default negative emotions overlaid across the interaction which must be overcome to "prove" I'm not one of the bad ones. You still don't get it. Do you not understand how forcibly throwing negative energy, suspicion, and distance at someone until they prove they deserve …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:49 PM
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1) Yes I absolutely think that all of those are socialized responses and you don't really understand it well enough for me to waste time explaining it to someone who isn't even questioning that it's right. 2) Yes I know what you were referring to. And I tried to explain to you that humans do not innately see each other as predators, but I don't think you're really ready for me to get into an explanation of how agriculture brought about the concept of conflict over resources that previously didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:44 PM
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Umm. It was in the first reply. Being treated with a default "you're a male who's not obviously gay" suspicion fucking sucks. It's exhausting to interact with and I genuinely didn't cause it, so the fact that it's objectively justified doesn't change the fact that I personally don't deserve to be subject to the irrational reactions conditioned by things done by people not me who I don't know and never met. Just because trust issues are justified doesn't make them healthy for anyone if everyone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:32 PM
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Yeah I don't put much stock in evopsych. Especially since humans are born with only a few super base infant instincts and even human infants don't start by seeing other humans as "Other creatures" and the fact that you can't see that otherization itself is what's trained away from the base human default of "we are one species, and those are my parents" idk what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:24 PM
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All women who trust casually? Or just a significant enough minority to draw a ton of attention? You're full of black and white thinking. Again, no one is challenging the reality of the conditioning, I'm saying you're absolutely wrong to say that anyone is entitled to want to not be treated that way and you're absolutely wrong to treat the way you function as something to move anywhere but away from on purpose because that's how you get yourself emotionally healthier. Have you never challenged a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:18 PM
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lol a "male luxury" Sure, call healthy emotional functioning as established by medical science "A male luxury" I think we're done here. That's just a bullshit dismissive argument because you don't have an answer to anything else I said. The realities that exist currently in our communication saturated world where women can easily be inundated by shitty male communication change absolutely nothing about what healthy emotions are or your projection. Plenty of women are just as exhausted as I am of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:11 PM
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lol entitled to be viewed with a lack of suspicion. I get you feeling entitled to your own suspicions. Projecting that across a species as a default like it's not largely socialized though? And you put the entitled label on me for it. Insulting, thanks for that. You'd think poorly of me. I give trust, and then I let people prove me wrong. I'm not suspicious, but I am observant. It's an emotionally neutral ground to step foot on with people and from what like 4 therapists have told me, it's the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 04:05 PM
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I see the issue. The Red Pillers you talk to and the ones I talk to are vastly different. Fair lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 03:58 PM
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You're subtracting a few things, like suspicion. Suspicion is the antithesis to trust. The two cannot coexist, and one naturally depletes the other. Being treated with a default suspicion designed to draw out my honesty when I'm already giving it is emotionally exhausting. It's reigning in the moments when something I say might hit a filter before it hits critical thought and get me a bad reaction. It sucks, and it's not about expecting instant trust, but rather expecting to not be placed under …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 03:51 PM
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It's bad faith because you're narrowing Red Pill's actual argument to the point you can make a logically unsound argument against it and it actually seems to make sense for a second until you think about it instead of being obviously bad. Red Pill does talk about resources, but if you read through their arguments they've taken note of the distinct lack of materialism that is acceptable in most places in the dating world now on all sides. Milleninals are broke as fuck and we accept it in our dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 03:46 PM
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I'm not upset with women about it but it genuinely sucks to be a guy and to get treated like you have sexual intentions towards every single woman you look at twice. It sucks to have to toe such a cautious line with women sometimes because they're so inundated by shitty dudes and their bullshit that the level of patience and acceptance they have for any man with hetero inclinations is extremely low. I'm a bi dude who genuinely makes most of his friends among women, and like it's legitimately har…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 03:29 PM
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Your view is highly subjective bullshit about how much you hate perceived disparities in responsibility and choice. Why would I want to change your irrational views, that's what you pay a therapist for.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 03:24 PM
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This is a genuinely bad faith argument. I'm blue as hell, please represent us better. The concept of hypergamy as Red Pill lays it out isn't purely about money either and applies to situations where materialism is not an issue. Ugh don't make me clarify their side, do the reading, know what you're talking about. Their arguments can be torn apart but not by this kinda shit come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:25 PM
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I absolutely say no if the person involved has no idea what they're getting into. An experienced sub, I can have a ten minute conversation about boundaries, limits, and needs and be set to come up with a scene for her. A new sub who is still experienced sexually? It can take weeks to really feel them out, get them to relax and open up to conversation enough to get inside their head. A new sub who's not experienced sexually? No I genuinely will not touch that with a ten foot pole. Learned that le…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:22 PM
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Yeah but damages are a very, VERY specific definition under tort law and changes depending on the law. For example, you're entitled to punitive damages for emotional harm if the harm came from certain specific civil laws, but not necessarily for breaches in criminal law that nonetheless create potential tort issues. Sure, you can FILE for anything. That doesn't mean your case won't get thrown out over any number of technicalities if it can be. Adding paternity fraud to tort law is 1) Dangerous b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:18 PM
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They aren't ridiculous just because most people don't measure up in American society, and they aren't sexually based that's why I said "in some ways aren't adults" Adulthood is a complex concept I didn't try to act otherwise. But that doesn't mean you don't have a wall of justififcations designed to enable you to set up a default power dynamic. That's another thing you do not get, one that has nothing to do with them or their adulthood. I'm a dominant. I dominate people plenty. I do so consensua…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 01:58 PM
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No idea. Don't care. It either stops me or it doesn't, no point in wasting time on something that's mostly not under my control.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 01:51 PM
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The first picture is awful. Makes his head look larger than it really is. The second is a decently attractive dude. So unknown on the first without a better picture and 7-8/10 on the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 01:50 PM
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How is this controversial. Of course they should. The fact that proven no paternity can still result in the court treating you as the parent is horse shit. :Edit: I can't say I support financial damages. Too messy and tort court is messy enough. But if you can prove that someone defrauded meeting the criminal standard present in court, I have no problem with fraud charges.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 01:46 PM
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The entire point of my post is you're seeking people who in some ways don't qualify as adults. That's what makes it creepy. I get it. "A 20 year old is an adult!" They really aren't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 01:45 PM
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Gay and bi men don't tend to aggressively hit on many people, and I'm a big 6'2 broad shouldered dominant personality so I tend to attract more effemine guys who want to be dommed anyway. A woman with a knife threatening to force me into sex is still a person with less reach and strength than me and that's not scary, so much as unlikely to ever happen and if it did, well, my response to deadly threats doesn't know gender so she's gonna get knocked the fuck out. Even if either of those was a like…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 03:04 AM
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There's nothing in life that threatens me like men threaten women they want who don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:09 AM
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Not all sexual preferences are created equal. This isn't a kink, nor is it an orentation. I'm not shaming him for liking feet, or even for liking younger women. I'm shaming him for his unconfronted emotional reaction to women who are more experienced than him which is indicative of a severe lack of adult emotional maturity that he's parading around AS a preference. It's not about waiting, it's about growing, and you very apparently are not. You're stuck in this space where you permanently feel m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 02:06 AM
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Blessed with confidence? Dude I'm a chubby bald dude with a 6 inch dick. I earned the confidence I have. I learned, applied myself, treated sex like a skill and got good at the skill. And yeah it bothers me. How low N are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:47 PM
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Congrats you said a statement so meaningless and generalized that you wasted everyone's time who read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:45 PM
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Because you're not selecting for more submissive you're selecting for more innocent. Innocent and inexperienced don't mean someone is more submissive, it means you can put them in a submissive place whether that's where they need to be or not more easily. That's what's creepy about it. That's also EXACTLY why I prefer experience. I AM a dominant. Like, pretty experienced in the BDSM world. I know exactly what it is to try to get a girl to submit who is not a submissive and i prefer women with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:38 PM
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Rollo Tommasi is literally a shill grinding out his 30 minutes of fame however he can. I don't ever see him quoted here, idk about the Red Pill sub but like "A Voice For Men" has been thoroughly proven to be scum and most of that side of the man o sphere I never hear about anymore except for outrage articles an posts like this. Probably a good sign that his echo chamber is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:25 PM
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Yeah, the thing about that is that the people you are seeking are as close to the line of "not adult" sexually as you can find without legally being over that line and that is creepy as fuck. "I have a fairly innocent view of sex and expect my partner too as well" except your expectations are couched in misogyny an "She should be *more* selective than me and in general purity coveting is just creepy as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:20 PM
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lol yeah no sorry "I want to be on the automatic upside of a power dynamic" isn't a preference it's a need for easy manipulation in your relationship and I'll shame it all I want, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:17 PM
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It's my experience that women treat sexual history alot like job history. If you have a good sexual history, a number of enjoyed sexual partners and good experiences and no like unexpected kids or STDs, it's reassuring and they appreciate your sexual history often. Note: Jealousy repels me like I'm a mosquito and you're showering three times a day in citronella oil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 02:03 AM
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As a dominant, let me assure you that there are plenty of women who don't actually want to be dominated in bed. Now, I will say culture has conditioned women to expect performance on the part of the man and not always on the part of themselves. Starfish are a thing. These are the women who, they don't want to be dominated, they just don't want to take the lead in anything. There's a difference between submissive and lazy. There are lots of submissive women. Submissives are not lazy in the slight…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:57 AM
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If you want to be a father it can be alot of fun lol. Making babies on purpose is kinda hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:51 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:50 AM
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I feel like this is quietly a realdoll marketing poll. Also do I get to be 25 forever too or do I get to look more and more like a pedophile each passing year past about 45?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:47 AM
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Your attraction to innocence and inexperience is creepy af. The "ick" factor is that you can't shape her like you want to. You say teach, I say control. You want a submissive relationship but you want the default to be an imbalance in experience. You want deference that you haven't earned through trust but by a default "I know and am more comfortable with all of this than you" and that's really fucking weird in an adult man dude. That "ick" factor is probably you being intimidated by the thought…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:40 AM
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I agree and "I like teaching an inexperienced girl" is so fucking creepy to me. Give me a girl with 10+ partners and a thought out kink list any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 01:32 AM
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I think that without the internet alot of these guys would just be alone in their houses without any contact with women and I think that this is kinda a bubble that will pop given that the economic conditions that have made sex work such an appealing option for so many women are unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:11 AM
2

Chris Hemsworth, The Rock, Terry Crews. Soft eyed men who IRL have an inner strength and self certainty about their actions that lets them be feminist men and who demonstrate empathy and understanding of others and a high degree of emotional intelligence. Terry Crews is one of the most manly dudes I know, but he's deep. That's a side to him, not his entire persona. He's also a father to all daughters, it's him and his wife an the girls in his house. He values positive masculinity and femininity …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 01:59 AM
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Ok even as a blue as fuck dude less than half of men are chads to anyone. That's just true. Maybe when your entire dating pool was who was local to you that was true. The internet has factually made us more image conscious than before and have opened up dating pools to anyone you can see, and that is changing the psychology around dating in real time. I agree with the rest. There are attraction demographics and there are people attracted to all kinds of body types if those body types are healthy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 01:53 AM
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What's the context for both men? Where do they live, what do they look like, how much money do they have, who do they know, how charming are they? How intelligent? How educated? Who are they attracted to? If you were going to rate self esteem and self worth separately, 1-10, what's this guy's rating on both? Like from an objective standpoint, not his opinion of himself. Hell, 1-20, with 10 being a healthy self esteem and 20 being unchecked arrogance. The actual solid blue pill response to man 1 …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 01:30 AM
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There are few times I would say an abused woman deserves what she gets. But being a nazi in an abusive relationship with another nazi? Whatever you get, you deserve worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 01:06 PM
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Yeah I think that most women under the age of 30 don't want to date a nazi. Sure, there are also women under 30 who are nazis, but it's a shrinking group from what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 12:51 PM
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I think men are more sensitive but who has "more emotions" isn't something you can generalize. I think that the world has circled around treating men's emotions like objective truth for so long that men forgot they have feelings because the world was structured to enable a peaceful (white) male existence compared to most and now no one has any peace and it's all falling apart. The idea that women can't have sex without involving feelings is laughable. I know a few I wish had. The idea that men c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 11:46 PM
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Oh they absolutely try to just ignore all ethical questions around manipulation justifying it all as "the hivemind of womanhood does worse this is how we survive it" and it's pretty sad sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 09:16 AM
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Yeah you pretty much hit it on the head. Red Pill is a search for generalizations you can make about women that will increase your chances with any women. All of their theories proceed from AWALT, the fundamental logical fallacy that Red Pill is founded on philosophy wise. Black pill is a retroactive attempt to justify being single and lonely by men who have been excluded from dating, an attempt to externalize all blame for it and pretend there was a day when incels were guaranteed a wife and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 06:16 AM
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You can work on low self esteem, you can't work on a liar. The fact you think dishonesty is the smaller red flag says alot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 05:08 AM
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I feel like as a chubby tall guy, there are more women attracted to me than to a short wiry dude, all else being equal. But the girls who like me would consider the wiry dude, and the girls who prefer the wiry dude won't touch me with a ten foot pole. A surprising amount of women don't give a fuck about fat if you're tall and muscular underneath it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 05:57 PM
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I consider it natural selection. There's going to be pushback, but let's face it it can't be good for the species if every guy gets to breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 05:47 PM
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Factually untrue. Introversion and self confidence issues aren't part and parcel, contrary to mainstream collective supposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/19 06:13 AM
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You're way overthinking this. Yes, understanding women intuitively helps immensely in dating. Stupid generalized philosophical concepts like "You're a slave to whatever you need" and your "if you have a feminine side you don't need a woman" don't really describe what any of my life is like so I don't even know how to approach that attempt at philosophy. Women are attracted to more than one simple caricature of men and the idea you need a default level of ignoring her or being extroverted to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 01:18 PM
1

Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 01:13 PM
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I think that it is common for people, based on like /r/relationships, to feel jealousy and have issues with their partner being attracted to anyone but them. Though, the older people are the more common this gets, and I've seen women in their 30s who still in 2019 think things like "If I send him nudes that's all he should fap to" like the concept of purely visual stimulation and the male sexual response to it aren't common knowledge these days in that subreddit. I think that monogamy is the sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:42 PM
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I think the entire AF/BB dichotomy describes a specific subset of overly materialistic women in the straight world only and say that Red Pill way overgeneralizes women who have a casual sex life at some point and then settles down as if such women have one codified thought process about it. It's such an oversimplification of people that it loses all applicability to real life. I think that being a stable choice and an exciting choice aren't mutually exclusive when you're not both emotional child…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:38 PM
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This is actually part of why I'm in a triad. I didn't give it up, I just restructured it into not like separated sister wife polygamy. Having the ability to have two full time incomes and a stay at home parent kicks ass financially let me tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:33 PM
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I mean how much younger. Under 22 you're taking the risk of bringing a genuine child into your life in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:32 PM
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The term "the feminization of society" makes it sound like things were in balance before. I look at Terry Crews and see one of my masculine ideals. Dude is swole, masculine as hell, but can confidently engage with his feminine side. It doesn't make him any less of a man, it makes him a more complex, complete person. I think that that should be the goal in society. Balance between the masculine and feminine natures. Both seeking to support the other. I don't think that's a pipe dream, I just thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:31 PM
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I can't speak for the rest of Blue Pill but when it comes to cheating I tend to say look for evidence if you feel you need to and don't assume until you find it. If you feel like you need a paternity test, get one. It isn't that hard to do. Expecting women to do it for you is unreasonable, expecting women not to react to suspicion about it is unreasonable, women expecting all men to have no doubts about it ever is also unreasonable, and the simplest human solution is if you doubt paternity get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:24 PM
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I don't think sex work is devaluing themselves. You're only looking at dating. Sex Work is a response to younger generations having to rip money out of the hands of older generations by any means necessary. Lots of sex workers genuinely wouldn't be in a better economic climate, but we are where we are. Their choices have nothing to do with dating and much more to do with the economy and with the fact that "traditional jobs" do not give rewards equal to the work required anymore if you're making …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:15 PM
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There isn't much difference and 18 year olds are socialized to be children in this day and age. I've got a friend who's 18. Genuinely just a friend she's leaving for freshman year in college in two weeks and I was both shocked and kinda unsurprised to find out that she's required to live on campus for two years and not allowed to have a car on campus just to go to her school. Almost like adolescence is being extended on purpose and 18 year olds today are being prepped to still be kids where it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 01:17 PM
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How do you not see the marketing involved? So a 17 year old sings about sex, that doesn't mean she's a sexual adult who like knows how to ... I just don't get it. None of that is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 01:14 PM
1

Not when you're fat. I get zero matches on Tinder or any other match based app, and I do really well on apps that allow me to send whatever message I want unprompted. Though I do need to move to a city, when I was done setting up my okcupid search filters there were less than 20 total women who showed up in my area who were online in the last year. I know I'm picky but damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:54 PM
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Therapist first, then bring in your SO. Much easier to talk to them about it if you have active progress and direction in working on your shit to talk about. But in the mental illness community we tend to tell people at the point your mental illness starts affecting your partner you owe it to them to disclose it. So far as talking about your feelings, it has to be framed right. When you feel something irrational, part of what's upsetting is that in the moment it feels true, and you end up having…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:33 PM
1

6'2.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:32 PM
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Yeah but you can showcase more than aggressive pursuit, and women do. I bet men could form a /r/AbusiveExTexts or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:31 PM
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No, not every woman can sell access to her sex, and often those who can don't make a ton of money, hell if you wanna stay with economics comparisons the market there is pretty saturated and I know hot girls who cam and don't make much money because they're honestly shitty actresses and the hot girls who can act are the ones who make bank. You're way oversimplifying the world to try to match your views. Demand for some women is unlimited. Demand for most women is not. That's just false on it's fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:46 AM
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hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:39 AM
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Hmm. I disagree that corporate competition is more forgiving. There's no empathy to corporate dealings. There's no human emotion factor involved in it in it's "ideal form" because emotion is often the enemy of efficiency and efficiency is one of the chief contributors to profit. And monogamous relationships are 1:1, but not all relationships are monogamous (increasingly so) and dating is not inherently exclusive in its early stages pretty often. Neither is casual sex. Then you get to talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:35 AM
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Yeah but no interest in commitment isn't a dealbreaker for women looking for casual sex. A dude who's a shit dom and doesn't respect limits on the other hand, can totally be a dealbreaker. As can narcissistic abuse and manipulation and other such things that women have been passing around stories and articles written by psychologists about on the internet the last 15 years. It's not universal, but those kind of standards for women have been on the rise. That's why there's a number of organized s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:26 AM
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Yeah that is true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:24 AM
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It's not that hard to develop things to offer women. I'm average faced, fat, bald, but tall and broad to balance it out so my appearance overall is average at best. Most of what I offer isn't looks and I'm a broke motherfucker who just dates non-materialistic girls (not super hard to find) and it works. Men don't have absolutely nothing to offer women. The more common problem is men don't know what or how to offer what they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:12 AM
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Ahh yeah that's true, some will. I don't have any numbers on it, but it feels like there are alot fewer women who will sacrifice other expectations for good looks than men. Good sex, on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 06:00 AM
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Nope. Bi guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:59 AM
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I would say that the percentage of guys who meet standards and don't know it are not that small, in part because so many men just have no idea what can or should be expected of them in a relationship. Men aren't raised to know that stuff. You said markets race to the bottom, but sex doesn't actually follow along with economics and using economic principles to define dating is inherently flawed because the economic race is a coldly rational headspace and romance absent narcissism is generally any…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:57 AM
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The first line, women won't do the reverse? What exactly do you mean by that? The reverse seems like you're saying women will sacrifice looks to get a non abusive guy, and if that's what you're saying I agree. Like you I think the ugly people being invisible is a complex topic and I think you're right, it's moving more towards gender neutrality. But I don't think it's there quite yet. The last bit, no I don't think she's missing out, but at the same time the supply of men who don't think that wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:49 AM
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There's no such thing as default value. Value itself is a societal construct and the "sexual market" as it currently exists didn't in the 50s because society was different. Value isn't just determined by the buyer, if we're talking about economics. You're acting like demand is permanently inflexible and that's just not true. You're reading what you want to into facts, making very bad subjective interpretations of some very basic facts that don't actually give us much in the way of why things are…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:46 AM
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Hmm. I will grant you that lots of men do not meet the high standards women have and you're right, in alot of ways a shitty dude is a shitty dude no matter his standards. But, if we walk away from the shitty dudes and into the categories of men who actually meet women's standards, everything I said is still true. And, if all dudes, even the shitty ones, didn't tolerate abuse from women either, it would change the value women have to play with in their own lives. Raising men's standards isn't abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:03 AM
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Depends on my luck in my local area (rural texas) but this year I've had everything from two days after we started talking to a few weeks, my last new gf it took 3 months cause we lived in different cities and it took that long to see each other. Varies by circumstance and who I'm talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:58 AM
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Some women get shot for saying a hard no
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:56 AM
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I think it's different and hard on all sides. You say women have all the value and men have none of it, but that isn't a reflection of intrinsic values but varying standards. Women's standards are much higher on average, and the problem with that isn't women having too high of standards, but men having too low. Too many desperate men will put up with shit they shouldn't from abuse to neglect to lukewarm commitments in order to get a hot girl and such. Men don't have low standards because they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:52 AM
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Leaving the house in that situation? Sure. Leave. Leaving the fucking country? Sorry, you just became a worse mother than he's a father and you left the country for you, not your child. Extradite her and throw her in prison. Those laws exist for a reason and if she didn't get a judge to OK her move she deserves whatever happens afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 03:30 AM
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Because existence is meaningless and having money doesn't bring any meaning to your life and white people especially in the west have a dearth of culture (hence all the appropriation) and that lack of community, culture, or any of the usual places people go to get social neurotransmitter release don't exist for the rich, often. Being wealthy in the west is socially isolating and wealthy people tend to suck because they have the money to avoid self improvement at any and all times they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 02:54 AM
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They aren't contradictory because there's nothing ethically wrong with having a sex bot, but it does advertise massive issues with human connection which is a glaring red flag for romantic interest of any kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 02:51 AM
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I swap stories, especially sexual horror stories. Those are always hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 04:12 AM
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Nah I think that Red Pill is based on Junk Science and that most of what gets posted comes with a massive subjective reinterpretation attached. As Atlas B Shruggin said one time, Red Pill is a belief system not science, it's just that many of them believe that the science supports their beliefs. I think AFBB is probably the most factually incorrect idea you have, and I think that the concept of Hypergamy is entirely based on Red Pill's subjective belief that women are worth less than women unive…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 04:07 AM
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I've seen alot of red pill expressing that guys get angry if a girl doesn't give them "the same deal" as a previous guy. Like, if a girl tries anal with a guy and decides she doesn't like it and it's a limit, a red pill guy would be furious if she didn't give him a shot at it from what they say. I still don't understand the concept of "accept her n count" like just having a partner number that's not under 5 makes her automatically unacceptable. I often feel like it's as close as they can get to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 06:35 AM
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lol "weeks or months" Are guys really so desperate and self absorbed that waiting a few weeks to a couple of months to sleep with someone is a dealbreaker if you're both looking for a serious relationship? I'm not, so I guess this falls outside of my experience. Is the relationship worth a little wait? That's what I'd be looking to answer. If not, no I wouldn't. If so, yeah I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:46 AM
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"Has to accept" Why do you have a problem accepting her high n count?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 05:39 AM
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Men are largely in control of what gets broadcast and who gets picked and so female recognition is often subject to male gaze issues where the most qualified woman will easily lose out in attention to the second, third, or tenth most qualified woman if she's the hottest of them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 07:03 AM
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I do understand your point of view. It's old and outdated, it isn't anything new. People have been against abortion for whatever reasons you're personally against it as long as it's been around. I don't try to understand dinosaurs dude, I'm not an archaeologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:55 AM
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lol Your entire argument is "WHAAAAA I DON'T HAVE CONTROL AND THEY DO ITS UNFAIR AND UNEQUAL" and that is the horse shit. It's an emotional appeal about how unfair it feels and the empathy you deserve for not being in control of something other people are that involves you. This is male privilege. The idea that you are entitled to some kinda "absolute fairness" and your complete lack of empathy for the women who actually have to go through pregnancy. It's not about dogma dude, I'm a dad with two…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 06:53 AM
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Possibly the most hypocritical single sentence I've seen on PPD. Almost impressive, considering the company. You're not pro life you're just anti abortion, pro life is a bullshit label the republicans came up with, lets not be disingenuous here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:22 PM
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The best way I have to describe the structure is there are three people and three relationships. Picture a triangle, we are the points, the lines are our connections. I date both of them, they date me and each other. There's also a group dynamic in the house, what we're like when we're all together. All 4 relationships there require some mindfulness and attention regularly. How it functionally works is we spend our evenings mostly the three of us and pair off on dates alot or just hang out whoev…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:20 PM
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lol She wouldn't. Women want someone more complex than "ALL YOU BRING INTO MY HOUSE IS SEX WHY AREN'T YOU HAVING SEX WITH ME?!" and are choosing accordingly more and more. Like a previous post said, women have preferences and standards, most men when you get down to it just have preferences. They want to be accepted for the simple creatures they are and women are just saying no. It's a minority of men who seriously get hung up on previous partner counts though. Red Pill is one of the last spaces…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:05 PM
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I love how "the deal" is just treated like an objective concept. Men had to earn more money! Well most men still do. They just do. Not like they specifically try to or anything, they just tend to earn more money. Very true I've gotten hired on making more than my girlfriend at the same job when she'd been there for nearly a year and we both had plenty of experience. The female end of the deal... stay a virgin for your future husband, be the homemaker, structure your life around pleasing your hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:53 PM
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It doesn't. That's not the issue. The issue is that once a child is physically born in the world, the kid is what matters. Terminating parental rights fucks the child over. If you knock someone up and a kid is born, the least you can do is donate some money to help raise the kid if you're not gonna be around to be a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:42 PM
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I would imagine you intended to and forgot
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:40 PM
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I'm in a poly triad and my flair is just a joke that makes me chuckle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:40 PM
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So you come up with a ridiculous, unworkable legal solution? I like how this entire concept is borne out of jealousy for women having a choice about abortion and men not. It's not unequal, it's asynchronous. Women are the baby carriers, they get decisions over baby carrying, men are not, therefore they don't. That's pretty cut and dried and if you want to bitch about equality you should look into men getting surgically inserted wombs to carry children to truly make it "equal" Ugh. What is there …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:38 PM
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The standard gross red pill response to abortion not being under control of men, in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:34 PM
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Yeah no. No way in hell. Not about the women, about the kids. Sucks that some parts of life cannot be made to be fully equal but women get a say on abortion and men don't, men should not ever get to willingly terminate parental rights without a court and the mother agreeing that he can. I think we can definitely work on the back side, treating parents more equally after a child is born, but once you bring a kid into the world it's not the mom who needs the support it's the kid. Especially since.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:34 PM
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Right, because socialization, environment, etc play no part. You cherry pick facts to fit your beliefs. It's funny you cited religion because that's what your specific version of Red Pill is most like, irrational beliefs in the face of evidence. "It cannot be anything else but magic" is a fundamentally irrational statement. You cling to your biases like fleas to a sick dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:03 AM
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I'm a guy and I don't get it. I don't understand the obsession with needing to equal or exceed your partners partner count to keep ahold of your masculinity, I don't understand why the emphasis on innocence, I don't understand why beta guys are beta in the first place tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 04:00 AM
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They want women to either act all the way like men and fuck most guys who want a fuck, or to act like women from the 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 03:58 AM
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Because "Bad boy" and "assholes" are wild generalizations that actually mean "Any guy I can find a reason to dislike who's fucking a girl I want to fuck so I can't"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 03:55 AM
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According to someone who said it stands for Anti Feminist Cunts now you and I are both old and have been around the manosphere too long
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 03:54 AM
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LPS?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 03:53 AM
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Critical thinking about your own life is like one of the last things that our society is geared to teach anyone male or female, excepting therapists offices which at this point are almost subverting the desired order of the world. Though, where is this population of men who hang on the every word of instagram models? Like, I remember hearing about Fyre Fest but I literally don't know anyone who even began to think about going this seems like an above upper middle class thing tbh which would mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:47 PM
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You need to woman up, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:43 PM
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So right off the bat "If a man rejects a woman for not being good enough he is criticized" By who exactly? Who is walking around arbitrating men's breakups with women for the women not being good enough? As a guy who has dumped a woman somewhat recently I am genuinely curious. You're just saying things you feel to be true without any actual basis this isn't even Red Pill dogma this is like a personal list of complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:42 PM
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As a bi guy who dates bi women pretty much all gender based expectations get thrown out, except for the killing bugs things and trash. Sex is usually expected on a first date, because by the time I ask a girl out on one I've talked to her enough that she's decided whether or not she's going to fuck me before she sees me in person. LTRs are negotiated among my kind seemingly more often than not and I would be the rule rather than the exception there. My expectations aren't about gender really eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:51 PM
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Special in that I grew up and learned how to be authentic, yeah. Took quite a few years of therapy in the end to get me there, but I can say absolutely that the average person lies constantly, at least in American society, about what they think and feel to blend in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:46 PM
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I date up in looks and look for 10/10 personalities from my perspective soooo...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:35 PM
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On the one hand you're kinda right, on the other you're pretending men aren't by far the largest perpetrators of violence in all directions in the world compared to women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:32 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:31 PM
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Oh i figured it was for the lgbts, we don't really have a pill yet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:30 PM
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You talk about a man but aggression doesn't make a man it makes an aggressive boy. You mistake aggression for both masculinity and maturity. It's true, some women want that excitement. It makes you an aggressive boy in a sea of boys and that's why they aren't getting picked anymore. Men are few and far between.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:29 PM
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Absolutely disagree. Sex is fun and I think if you want it you should have as much as you safely can with whoever you can safely have it. I'm not a monogamous person. There is no good sex life any one girl could give me that would make me suddenly monogamous. Before marriage as well... I'm not going to marry someone unless the sex is already good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:26 PM
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This is way over thinking spiders
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:21 PM
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You don't know what I'm talking about and that's ok, but you shouldn't contradict things with an academic basis with something this generalized. The authentic self displays true emotions. Most people don't do this. We create false selves to hide our vulnerabilities and lie to each other
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:20 PM
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You just compared sex and defacating. I mean, even leaving out scheduling your poo around a busy life and using modern facilities and all the things we learn about poo that aren't inborn, sex has become one of the areas we devote the most critical thought to and such. Go look at porn. Point me to things that exist in nature please besides just the bodies. Can you not see how ridiculous it is to begin to think that sexuality, One if the moyai controversial modern subjects, which has been talked a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 07:16 PM
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huh fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 04:15 AM
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No, in your specific example I don't think that's a test of your masculinity. I think most girls don't really question how masculine a guy is. If you aren't a straight guy you can tell. Hell, usually from what I've seen if you are a straight guy you can tell, straight guys just don't talk about it openly, no one wants to be the loser in a "who's objectively the most masculine guy here" conversation. Girls don't really like test your masculinity. They aren't super concerned about it. They'll test…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 03:51 AM
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First, Red Pill gets female attraction incredibly wrong almost on purpose, reducing women in ways that are at best loaded with confirmation bias and at best purposefully intellectually disingenuous. Second, while the "Stated" goal of Red Pill is to get men laid, the unstated one is "Without giving up male privilege" You can argue with that one, we'll have to agree to disagree. I've seen the Red Pill sub. It's fifty times more of a mess than is seen here and full of vitriol and ideas about women …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 02:09 AM
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Looks mattering varies much more among women than men. Women were trained to value other things and especially if you look at media not released in the last few years the men often were a male ideal or male power fantasy rather than a female ideal while the women were all hot women by male standards. Sexual media catered much more to men than women for most of the history of media and still does moreso than to women today, though it's balancing out (Looking at you Chris Hemsworth) But personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:58 PM
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Yeah no. Noooooo. I like my massive sex drive, I have two girlfriends and until recently had a fwb too to handle it lol. But I don't have focus issues because of sex. If anything, my focus issues are ADHD related and the doctors won't give me adderal or anything cause I'm "too high functioning" and all my distraction is like thinking about marvel shit or something when I'm bored. Do you have a pill that makes you stop daydreaming about Harry Potter at 34? I need one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 09:00 PM
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People are not red pill false dichotomies. Does not compute because your brain is trying to smash people down into caricatures of humanity that do not exist in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:58 PM
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Jesus christ dude GET A NO FAULT DIVORCE. I'm 34 and let me tell you you are TOO YOUNG FOR THIS SHIT. I get it. You fucked up. You hid your authentic self cause you were insecure and didn't find a girl who likes it. Staying together for the kids is an awful idea. You'll raise them thinking that's what relationships are. Get the fuck out and go see a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:56 PM
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On the one hand, Americans very specifically have huge accountability issues. The American dream is literally to gain enough power and wealth to be accountable to no one. We fetishize answering to no one in our lives and having to be mindful of no one as a culture. It's toxic as shit and sadly unchallenged in our culture most of the time Women and men are equally prey to this and it breeds mental illness and emotional and mental immaturity. On the other hand, men do actually do the shit women ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:49 PM
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1) you're right about red pill (well I can't say about the income speculation but the losers part, yeah) 2) you're a successful narcissist and in a different way you are not an example to follow and phrasing learning mindfulness in any form as being a slave to someone else's well being is a really like glaringly obvious red flag for a lack of empathy. Your disdain for the emotions you're neurologically incapable of empathizing with puts you in the creeper narcissist category and people like you …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:32 PM
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2.5 with the Caveat that I've never met a guy I felt like I could actually date (because men are broken toys and it's 50 times harder to find a good man in the tiny pool of gay dating than to find a good woman who's attracted to men)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:25 PM
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Beta men don't really exist. Just like women are not so simple as to exist as a monolith (AWALT) men aren't so simple as to be divided into alpha and beta men. Its all over generalization and fundamentally false by virtue of being too generalized to represent anything or any real population of people. That's why you're here. If you think it through it stops making sense
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:21 PM
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So your first paragraph is just you assuming. Literally it's "I didnt get any messages, must be because I'm short" That's you making up an explanation that's about your insecurities, thus validating them and blaming the issue on something you can't control. I'll tell you two things. 1) more people dislike fat than short 2) I'm a fat guy who meets all his dates online How? My messages kick ass. I read profiles and find people who write things I like then talk about it. I send messages that make p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 08:07 PM
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Because 80% is a bullshit number and women's selection is about much more than just being physically attractive. Women are less shallow because they factually haven't been trained to be shallow and men have. It isn't universal, there are women who are as shallow as any guy. But that's their personality not their conditioning, so it's on an individual basis. When men aren't shallow it's because they can't be. When women are shallow its because they can be. Generalizing all women based on how whit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 07:09 PM
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Receptive itself is not a binary state and I feel like you're assuming that short is the issue when there isn't chemistry to begin with. The emotionally distant part is me talking about the fact that attraction is complex and that most women don't have short as just a "turn off dealbreaker" but a preference along with a bunch of others. If online dating is brutal it's not because you're short, it's because you genuinely don't know how to engage women in conversation that keeps them interested an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:23 AM
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Your depression is making a mess of your reasoning. You got danced with but you have severe social issues that drive people away and hypergamy is the problem? "Oh but I have another roommate who all I told you about him was his height and that he's mexican (racism is still a big factor in dating sadly but it's hypergamy folks!) and his lack of success is proof because I'm depressed." This is confirmation bias. You disinclude all factors that aren't proof of your idea that your lack of success is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:18 AM
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Because you think swooning = fucking and it doesn't, not nearly as much as red pill thinks. The average number of partners is still around 7. That's not a cock carousel nor is it "alpha fucks and beta bucks" or "women swoon over any hot guy" I'm not going to say that there aren't girls who don't care about height. But there are plenty who don't. Connection and chemistry trump everything else and if you're dating looking to find that and do, your height genuinely don't matter. But the kind of emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 06:01 AM
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You're a black man. Passivity isn't a character trait dude it's a survival mechanism. It is your nice black boy face to put on to the world to not be easily generalized into "violent thug" categories. It's about as trained as things get cause your life is literally on the line in ways few other situations put your life on the line in daily life. Being an aggressive black man can get the cops called and continuing to be aggressive even just in tone can get you killed in America and even if it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 02:14 AM
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This exactly. There are different ways of thinking about control and people who actively take control of their lives can do so by focusing that control internally over controlling all their own actions or externally controlling whatever variables they can in their environment. Some people feel in control by controlling whats around them, others feel in control by having absolute control over whats within. I'm that second type. I don't feel the need to boss anyone around, I'm very live and let li…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 02:08 AM
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Ouch yeah by comparison my upper middle class white boy face lets police interactions be one of the more passive encounters I might have on both sides. I've literally watched a cop walk up to my car with his hand on his gun and remove it as soon as I started speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 02:04 AM
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I would say that passive and nonconfrontational aren't the same thing. Nonconfrontational is when you let people walk all over you. People who are afraid of or actively avoid necessary confrontations in life is the doormat effect you're talking about. Other people are passive in that they neither seek nor run from confrontation while the typical Red Pill alpha is in fact a confrontational person and Red Pill tries to bring non negative confrontational aspects into some of it's mind meta. I diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 02:03 AM
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You didn't read it and don't get the context. You're describing these effects as if they exist without context. It is not theory or opinion that our society is functionally structured to deny power and agency to as many people as possible from minorities to women to men who simply do not have the power or money that other men do. The effects of this are being actively studied and discussed but the cultural ennui experienced in a world where you have zero say in the many external variables in you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 01:50 AM
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So you read a definition and provided a wikipedia link and your opinion is "you're wrong" and also "Your facts are opinions" Ok. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 01:26 AM
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I hope "secretly" is tongue in cheek.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 12:21 AM
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What? I don't feel like a big guy all that often because the average height of people around me is not that much shorter than me compared to a girl who's 5'2 and 120 lbs. It's a like perception thing, when there aren't other guys who are 6'2 around I personally can like almost pretend they don't exist for a bit and like I'm just a big gorilla of a guy more than I actually am. It's sill and self indulgent but like I said, fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 12:20 AM
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lol I'm 6'2 so I am like apparently the ideal height. I have 2 gfs, one is 5'10 and still smaller than me, the other is 5'3 and fucking tiny and it's great. I kinda have a thing for girls that make me feel like a gorilla. It's funny cause I'm not visually attracted to girls who are shorter, it's that I am a big guy but in daily life I don't like feel like a big guy all that often. 6'2 is tall but there are plenty of guys in the world taller than me. But alone in a room with a short girl I can fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 12:08 AM
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No I'm not drawing conclusions from them. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moments-matter/201708/locus-control There go read that. When you get to the point that it stays people with an external locus of control often end up with anxiety, consider how fucking much our society is designed from the ground up to be out of control of the average person. External locus of control issues arise from environmental factors, obviously. Each has it's own challenges, but both are objectively, without…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:56 PM
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So do I. I know lots of girls who date men around their height. Not too many who date shorter, but also lots of women are just shorter than the vast majority of men. Men who are 5'7 forget that there are girls who are 5'0 who a "taller" man is a minimum of 5 inches taller than her. And I know plenty of girls who are 5'8 who don't mind dating down, but girls over about 5'6 have their own problems being too tall for many men to be attracted to them. I'm not going to pretend being 6'2 isn't an imme…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:50 PM
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The first two are not places you ask sex questions. Bad choice in forum. /r/sex is what I would call overly feminist like into taking it too far and reacting irrationally to men who they deem remotely questionable. The other part is that there's not really a solid answer anyone can give you. People who aren't traveling for business often don't have the money in this world economy, especially internationally, so there's a lack of real experience to draw from to tell you how to travel for ethical …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:47 PM
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I think that for attractive women they get so much attention that if they aren't themselves shallow and honestly dumb men start to feel the same very fast and the ones that stand out do so by personality. I do think that if a woman is attractive if she dates an attractive man is about does she find one that measures up, but if she does, wouldn't you? I think that where like men seem often to evaluate everyone, women don't. I feel like the average straight guy has been trained to work back from a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 11:13 PM
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Lol you think I'm red pill. The reason that women don't do well with it is that they're taught to control the wrong external variables to reach ends that really aren't in their best interests. That's patriarchal gaslighting. The point, which you missed, is that internal and external locus void control are ways to describe how people think about the world and relate themselves to it naturally. You can do both well, or badly. Life can cooperate, or it can just not. These are other variables and a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:58 PM
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I'm in a poly relationship with two gfs who live with me who both have high sex drives and we're open. I basically structure my life from the ground up for that to never ever happen to me. Not kidding.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:50 PM
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34 and no. I think in compatibility terms. The more we have in common the more time we can share or parallel with little effort. The fewer gaps we have to bridge and the more we can live life together rather than "make it work" This isn't just interests. I'm complex and I date complex people and i figure out how their brains work. How they think about things, what their politics are, what their habits are. I've found that if you go deep people really are more alike than different and that thanks…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:49 PM
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Yes. And it was because he was a creep who didn't try to read the room. Nice guys are notoriously unmindful of everything that isn't them trying to get laid. I've seen guys I know like talk shit about solid relationships going through normal growing pains or not knowing how to handle loss any better than most people and shit. I've seen guys who smile at girls while being super toxic behind their backs. I've seen non narcissistic men engage in narcissistic behaviors that seem pretty trained by me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:36 PM
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Atheist and ultimately no. But I prefer women who are experienced with sex already in relationship context. Idc if you fucked one guy five hundred times or a hundred guys five times each if you're clean and cute and not abusive. But I do care a bit if you've only had sex five times in your entire life. And I care alot if you've only had casual sex. That's a red flag even for causal sex, cause if that's all you've had you suck in bed. Period. You suck. Gtfo. And I'm bi so that's shots fired in ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:23 PM
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I don't care about double standards. Want who you want. But. A high n man who wants a lower n woman, I assume either he wants to take advantage of her or he's got terminal insecurities. Its a big red flag to look into who he is as a person. A virgin fetish I just see as unfortunate. That sucks bro. I think comparing women dating up materially to n count counting is a bad comparison. Material affects your actual life in objective ways that affect anyone in this world. A woman with a low n count i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:20 PM
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I think it should be. Stop fucking women who are passed out or incapable of coherent speech. You act like "drunk sex" is on the up and up most of the time and isn't some drunk asshole fucking a girl who literally is incapable of expressing that she doesn't want this. No the "you made a bad decision" shit is projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:14 PM
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Constant male sex drive is not because all men are horny its because sex is tied to both one of the only safe access to intimacy most men have and validation of being the kinda guy who gets laid. You don't even understand women well enough to know they have the same sex drive variance we do but external motivations to not have sex while we have external motivations to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:11 PM
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Lol. You know nothing about human interaction. Uncertainty can come from many places and so can excitement. The constant false dichotomies in this sub are tiring
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:06 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:03 PM
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For most women no its irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:03 PM
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In order to connect like you're saying people would need to first conquer some level of their own insecurities and accept accountability so they didn't have shit to hide like everyone does now. Lots can't or won't do that so dishonesty reigns most places as "how things are done" Yes, its dumb. But that doesn't change how much some people will not change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 10:02 PM
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Blue as fuck, yes. Dating is fucked on that we agree, it is red pills conclusions, critical analysis, and methods I have an issue with :edit: In America.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:58 PM
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Have open relationships, be fully transparent by habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:56 PM
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Its been my experience that a not tiny minority of women are on the whole as shallow as any man. And that the majority, rather than any generalized attraction, decides physical attraction based on individual positive characteristics. Or in short when it comes to looks I feel like men look at a woman's entire body and look for dealbreakers and women look at specific things for positive reactions. Like a guy will see a relatively attractive woman but she's got boobs he doesn't like and he'll veto.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:54 PM
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Yeah I think the male form is just a bit more utilitarian on average than the female form for whatever reason and that men have a harder time being attractive. I mean, I am a bi guy who fucks men and I still think male genitals are the goofiest thing I've ever seen. Two balls and a tube, external plumbing, what was God even thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:44 PM
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I'm a pretty dominant person and I'm attracted to kinky submissives so no. The kind of women I have serious chemistry with are not the kind of women who make the first move and I'm ok with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:43 PM
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This is a general problem in the dating world and don't take ANYONE out on a date without a few days of engaged conversation on a messenger throughout the day first. That's my rule. I ain't gonna take you to dinner until you spend some time asking me about myself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:40 PM
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I'm a bi dude. I fuck guys, I do not date them. Men as red pill would define it have abysmally low RMVs. I cannot find a gay or bi dude anywhere who measures up to the standards that my female partners measure up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:38 PM
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No you just don't understand how people really work and the diversity of experience and are trying to generalize everyone into one easily definable category while denying others exist. The entire point of internal vs external locus of control is that they are two ways of perceiving the world which can have benefits and pitfalls. Tell me, if you met an alpha dude who was GOOD at controlling the world around him, who could externalize his control and get what he wants, do you think he would lack c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:33 PM
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A 17 year old red piller doesn't have the life experience or critical thought capacity to know what they're talking about when it comes to other people. No 17 year old has conquered their ego well enough to see others clearly yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:30 PM
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They get overall higher, but also change. As factors besides physical appearance become more important to anyone, those factors become a part of attraction itself. This is kinda part of natural human growth, and something that Red Pill seemingly does not experience much, their constant emphasis on looks pointing to a lack of maturity and depth to their attraction Though I'll say if you think college women aren't dating men in their 30s lol when you see a good woman taken off the market in her ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:29 PM
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Ok, now take those two definitions you mentioned and follow them to their logical conclusions as to how they play out in behavior, if someone believes they have to control the outside to change their life, vs if someone believes they have to control themselves to change their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:25 PM
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Blue pill isn't "Please your wife until she fucks you" Blue pill is "Talk to your wife openly and honestly about your needs, find out what hers are, see if she's even motivated to fix the issue or what her emotional and critical response to it is, and go from there" Blue pill is also "Go to therapy to get an outside opinion" And finally, blue pill is also "Yeah, if you need sex and she really does not want to do it, you have every right to end the relationship. Think about it carefully, but at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:24 PM
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Yes, men should be more emotionally intimate, it's the only way to develop true emotional maturity and I totally view people who are commitment phobic as people who have among other things fundamental maturity issues that close them off from intimacy that our brains were seemingly designed by nature to need. Though, I will say, women have their own issues. Men are out of balance with too little support. Women are out of balance with entitlement to support. Red Pill describes women using men as "…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:17 PM
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When you ask "Why does a man do this completely nonsensical thing" and the man is cishet the answer is often because "other men would react badly" Want another eye opener. The concept of a trophy wife is far less about the man with the woman seeing her as a trophy and far more about the rest of maledom agreeing with that sentiment. And exists because in more patriarchal times (like dating in the 90s) men totally bragged a ton on whatever woman they could land if they thought they could get away …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 09:11 PM
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There are two basic types of dominant people, There are the external locus of control people. These are the Alphas as Red Pill tries and often fails to describe them. Men who externalize the control they exert and the expressions of their dominance. And then there are the internal locus of control people. These are people who do not need control over others, they need control over self, to some degree or another. I too am an internal locus of control person. I am a dominant because it's fun, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:58 PM
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Sexual strategy as it's talked about treats women like an objective, not people with will and consent and needs of their own that matter. Sexual strategy is itself does not talk about or even give credence to morals or ethics, beyond what limitations are required to stay out of legal trouble. Back when men could expect to get away with alot more, sexual strategy was much looser and like /r/seduction was full of factual like potentially prosecuteable accounts of date rape being bragged about as "…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:43 PM
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They are abjectly terrified of losing their man card tbh. It's not about innate dominance. I'm a dom, female lead relationships don't personally threaten me and I'd be willing to bet most men from RP it doesn't like actively threaten them. The woman doesn't anyway, they'd just tell you not interested. But, the kinds of friends they maintain among men, the kinds of men perhaps in their families, might literally drizzle bbq sauce over their balls and eat them if they became publicly known to be "i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:28 PM
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Yeah I'm absolutely sure and you shouldn't say "Above you" on a forums where comments move around based on karma and posting time. I don't think what's above me now is what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:17 PM
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Agree with the false dichotomy. Reducing people to one of two basic motivations in dating is overgeneralization to the point of being intellectually dishonest. Red Pill isn't wrong that those women exist, it's just that's not how "all women" or even a majority of women actually work. Serial monogamy is more common than casual sex for a while and then settling down and in the age of hook up apps people are having less sex than they used to overall. Hook up culture is a specific loud minority of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 02:17 PM
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Depends on the girl. Everyone has their own specific inner metric for what they find attractive. One girl might be staring at your stomach, another at your forearms, and the third at your face. Just like asking a guy if he's a boobs or ass man, most people have some kinda preference either way. I'm a tall chubby dude with a nice beard and I literally have women compliment the beard, specifically. I'm not cut but I am broad and lumberjacky and rugged seems to be "in" in certain circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 06:10 AM
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Birth control changed what sex positive or sex negative means. Now it's a highly individual choice. What you're going to see is some societal wisdom about people deciding for themselves if the casual sex scene is for them or not and I think sexuality when it comes to kink will move more out of the mainstream again as people find it is acceptable for them to not participate in it and be fine and for dating to be held more and more separate from it. So compared to the past, things are going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 06:04 AM
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I think that there's a significant chunk of humanity who are dumb sheep who just imitate what more intelligent people do trying to get what the more intelligent people get out of it. I think that kink spaces used to be dedicated to those who sought them out and have seen a recent influx of attention from people seeking highs they'll never reach but covet and hear about. Fetlife is full of fake doms and fake subs. Men who just want to abuse someone under the guise of "domination" and women who wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:54 AM
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lol there is no such thing as a person without mental illness in America over the age of 10. Our society creates depression and the people with the privilege to avoid depression and anxiety and PTSD generally have serious empathy problems as well as serious critical thinking problems due to the lack of a need for it in a cushy modern life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:48 AM
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Yeah this is super judgy and unscientific about a subject that makes you uncomfortable. I do CNC with consenting partners who have rape fantasies. It's alot of fun. Get over it, what consenting partners do in their own time isn't your business. You make alot of comparisons that you're asking for agreement on irrational (100% emotion based) decisions in made up circumstances with zero nuance. Grow up. Your irrational reaction to rape porn isn't universal and the fact it makes you uncomfortable do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:43 AM
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The wall is bullshit but your personal experience doesn't disprove it, it's not like a majority of women over 30 get the kind of attention you talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:40 AM
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I got told a good rule a while ago. "Compliment something she obviously has control over" and then "You can't go wrong with shoes and accessories, mostly" I tend, if I want to pick someone's day up, to shy away from compliments myself. It feels so ham fisted, some people don't take compliments well. Small talk is better. There's always a comment or question I can find that'll get them talking. Even if it's just asking someone what they like to eat from the place they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 12:17 AM
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So in other words you think that everyone internally defines loyalty like you do and that the self awareness is faked. Insincere means you think they think it's bad and they're fronting. I get why you think that would be sleazy. I'm a guy in a poly triad. Two gfs, we share a bed. We're open to other people. I'm the main one who occasionally seeks. Emotional fidelity and our family really has nothing to do with my desire for sex with new partners. I put my family first. I put my kids first. We ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 12:13 AM
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lol sexual horror stories are first-afterglow conversation material for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 12:08 AM
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IOIs are moments of potential fluid reaction. They're opportunities in conversation. I feel like assuming attraction you miss those, and that's a few less moments I get to make a girl blush imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 12:07 AM
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Of course we are. We're trained to be. Ok, so, feminism has seen the rise of female sex symbols and female oriented sexual material. From porn to Chris Hemsworth corporations have learned there is money in catering to women and female gaze to some degree or another. In this case, equality seems to functionally be to just take women in the same direction as men and train them to consume sexual material everywhere. For men, there hasn't really been much of a dip in how much shit is catered to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 11:59 PM
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I think you can find a better comparison than tacitly accepting prison rape and it's a really bad practical example as real life is nothing like the atmosphere of prison and the social dynamics aren't remotely comparable. I mean like, you're basically making a male rape joke, but at the same time there's alot more subtlety to like pressuring a girl into sex than Edward Norton's gangrape or whatever you want to say being treated like a guy twice your size in prison would treat you. Could you mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 11:31 PM
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We split up chores mostly around who likes what. Like, I do not mind sweeping and vaccuming and my gf doesn't mind dishes and I take out the trash but she handles making our daughter's lunches most days. There are no fixed roles, just fixed jobs that must be done every so often. And in general most cleaning gets done by both of us at the same time as one of us will be "I feel lazy will you help?" and the others like "fuck...yeahhhhh ok"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:30 PM
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Your post is so incoherent and full of personal bias the only thing I really feel compelled to respond to is the idea that corporations want a "cucked" populace like men weren't corporate slaves giving up their lives and health to subsidize corporate wages and costs in the 50s when they had complete ownership of the household. You don't get it. Male culture makes men "more employable" by allowing men to treat other men as expendable. It is a male originating idea, male disposability. The real wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:28 PM
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Because Red Pill falls under the fundamental assumption and fallacy that you have to tear women down to build men up. You said "need a little misogyny to take women off the pedestal" No, you need a little therapy. Misogyny is an unhealthy substitute that makes you exchange one bad generalization (treat women like gold) for another (treat women like shit at least a little) and both perspectives are inherently unbalanced. For me it is men that I have a hard time treating as individuals. So many wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:25 PM
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This is why I have open relationships with non monogamous people. The only cheating is going outside of expected boundaries and I date super responsible non monogamous people who are cool with like letting me see their new partners test results and stuff so yeah I don't take marriage seriously anymore and I do think that the concept that a lifetime commitment to one person is right for everyone is horseshit. I told my newest relationship on our second date that if we got serious we would not be …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:21 PM
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As a guy fuck no I do not. I HATE workplace drama and I do not date/fuck anyone I work with. I go to earn money and go home, that's it. My life is not at work, it is at home. Customers/clients/whatever don't tend to ever hit on me it's only co-workers who are around me more than a few minutes so that's where my focus goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:17 PM
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Assuming attraction is a great way to shotgun any interaction with any woman who sees you doing it right in the face. Women are getting better by the year at spotting this. Confidence is a turn on, arrogance is the opposite most of the time, and a smart person knows how to ride the line well enough that if they get a little arrogant it gets mistaken as confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:15 PM
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Commonalities. The differences are flavor, most humans living in the same local area are more alike than they are different. Male, female, we emphasize the differences so much because we want to stand out from the massive 7 billion pack of other humans who are more like us than they are different and if you're looking at the right qualities we're all barely discernable from each other while if you look at what we focus on we seem wildly different. Differences aren't where you start unless you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:12 PM
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No, sympathy is where you are like "I am sorry you're sad this is not my sadness" and empathy is "I feel what you feel" and the issue is the opposite. Also bullies often don't have empathy at all they know what will hurt through trial and error and the long history of people hurting each other. It is not difficult to figure out how to hurt someone else. Often times bullies are very hamfisted with their delivery. They look for big obvious buttons to push and mash them flat as much as they can, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:09 PM
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I'm open to the idea, but I have a divorce under my belt and am wary as hell about it. I don't see marriage itself as a goal. I see it as a potential tool that could help in life if I'm dead serious about sticking with someone and want the tax benefits. But marriage as a "goal" has been utterly ruined for me and I tend not to date people who are like super marriage focused. I've found that marriage and commitment are not mutually inclusive or exclusive and I am not married right now but feel far…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:05 PM
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False dichotomy. Equality doesn't mean we don't also address how some men (like you perhaps OP) treat other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:03 PM
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Yeah I agree. Ugly girls are basically invisible to society and it's a very polar message because there's no clear cutoff or anything, some girls just get completely ignored. The concept that female incels do not exist is laughable but blackpill is convinced it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:01 PM
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In 2019? Like when do they hit adulthood? In a decade? I think we'll find out then, the kids today aren't here telling us how shitty life is when everyone is connected and still no one talks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:58 PM
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I've had feelings for a FWB where we also had boundaries. It was clear "we're just going to enjoy this while it lasts" cause our lives wouldn't go together and we didn't want to try. It lasted until she got serious with a guy (I like him, he's good for her) and we went back to just friends and I'm fine with that. She's the only FWB I've ever had feelings for and that was established on both sides at the start. The rest, I've had two develop feelings for me such that we couldn't continue and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:55 PM
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No you shouldn't put limits on her because you're depressed, if you try that you might as well just end it now, it'll be uglier otherwise. Or you could go to therapy and keep trying with her. Focusing on your shit doesn't mean bailing on your relationship, or it doesn't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:52 PM
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In my experience if women don't really ask about your N-count unless they have a high one and wanna like compare notes with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:50 PM
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Sleazy? That's a very specific description. Why is it sleazy instead of just unappealing to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 09:49 PM
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Lord. It isn't THAT bad. Close, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 08:41 PM
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It's depressing as hell. And I mean that in a societal way, not a personal way, though it depresses me too I have tried to break those patterns. Most people just live in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 08:41 PM
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Gay men are almost as bad as straight men in bed on average, at least that's my personal experience. Bisexual men married to women are on average the best. But like gay dudes do not have as much sex as everyone thinks. Just like in straight culture, a minority subset of gay men fuck constantly. And the rest act like any normal dude except they like dick. Just as awkward, inexperienced, and often stoic and emotionally unreachable as the average straight man when it comes to serious emotional expr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 08:36 PM
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What's the gesture though? The gesture is "I hope this goes somewhere besides conversation" This is why I either a) Only buy established friends more than one drink b) flirt before the second drink so intentions are extremely obvious or c) Don't buy people drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 08:31 PM
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Yeah I put that line about fetishized conversation in there on purpose. As someone who can offer hours and hours of conversation on multiple topics and keep it flowing, I know not everyone has natural flowy charisma and Red Pill really doesn't like talking about THAT being a major factor in dating success these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 08:30 PM
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I have spoken to many men I know are bad in bed. Most of them don't know they are. Men are not raised, overall, to pay attention to what women think and feel. Look at Atlas_B_Shruggin and her insane ideas about what men should act like to find success. "Don't care about them at all, only care if they get off because it makes you a more badass man" etc. Male privilege was the right to have a wife and give no fucks what she thought. It was the right to fuck your wife whether she wanted you to or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 08:24 PM
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Ahhhhh. You found the type and chased it. Ok. Fair. ​ This isn't intended as a brag, I'm the type you talk about. Just am, have learned every long term sex partner I've had well enough to make her cum within 5-10 minutes of clothes coming off with such reliability it wasn't even really effort intensive. Men are even easier but I fuck them much less frequently. I get told by every woman I interact with that they can't find guys like me. I'm the first to most of them and when I'm not it's usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 10:05 PM
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I know all about the dark triad. It is a generalization for the layman, not a term used in diagnosis, treatment, or academic discussion generally. I'm a few years away from my license to practice therapy, specifically for PTSD/personality disorder patients primarily. Therapy is manipulation. It is open, very transparent manipulation. "If you do this thing this way repeatedly your brain will accustom to it and if you allow me to criticize you you'll benefit from it. Retrain your own brain to acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:47 PM
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It is not my job to solve the problems of these guys for them. Why is that even part of a response? This is not a thread asking to solve the problem it's a critical discussion on if men have it better or not and if you read my post you'd see that it's a complex issue on both sides. The male side is put up every day here, the female side got put up by me. Your response is completely off topic and is the actual unproductive response here, my criticism is at least part of the discussion being had. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:39 PM
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I'm a guy and this is what the vast majority of women with straight partners report. I'll admit that it is slowly changing the younger you go in your demographics, but if you've seriously fucked 30+ different straight men and had mostly good experiences you're an outlier case with better judgment and observation and critical analysis than most people have access to and don't significantly affect average statistics because you are able to essentially avoid the pitfalls most women do not have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:35 PM
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Ok, then I'll correct you again. Manipulation is not inherently bad. Seduction is manipulation, convincing someone to go to see a movie you wanna see is manipulation, anything where you purposefully sway someone's judgment is manipulation. Bad manipulation is when you hide your intent, try to misdirect someone so that either they don't think that what they're doing is about you, or don't think that what they're doing is actually what they're doing, convincing them it's something else. Relabeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:30 PM
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It's not bait, straight men factually suck in bed. You know those studies about "most women require clitoral stimulation to cum" Bullshit. Utter bullshit. Studies biased by straight relationships and the flaws and blind spots inherent to straight male privilege. You can train people to cum with barely a touch, with the right presence and atmosphere. Straight men are garbage lovers on average and the statistics bear it out. This problem of women not cumming doesn't exist in lesbian relationships,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:23 PM
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Uhh, says who? Manipulation is a human trait claiming it as masculine is just on it's face wrong. Some of the most manipulative people I've known weren't masculine about anything including that at all. Manipulation can be masculine or feminine oriented, the concept itself is genderless and no one gender does it more or better except where society allows them to, it does not naturally come to more masculine people and in fact I would say that manipulation is anti-traditional masculinity because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:20 PM
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You're talking to a guy dude. I'm just not straight. Bi male who dates women (because even men in the gay community are awful more often than not) But way to jump on a post that talked about women using "they" and not noticing cause I struck some kinda nerve. And like, finding out of a guy is good in bed requires either a girl be slutty to fuck around until she finds a good one or... What? What's the other option here, if a girl finds sex to be important to her at all, how is she going to find o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:55 PM
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It's mostly a nightmare. Communities died in the 70s and 80s and are just now starting to come back. No community meant no community accountability outside of crazy religious sects here so our social dynamics are fuuuuuucked. People from Europe come here and describe our touch isolation as surreal. Like we don't touch each other at all here outside of blood family and serious relationships, often. So adults with dating issues are adults without healthy touch. We're a first world economy with thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:51 PM
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Its not and a bunch of guys are really falling all over themselves to explain things. "the social politeness of buying girls drinks" Its gaslighting. "oh its not too get laid (it totally is) I'm just being polite and you should let me ply your self control with a depressant while assuming I just wanna be polite until my hand is in your pants" This is beta as fuck to me. I'm not rp at all but like Jesus be open in your intent. If I buy a girl a second drink its after I've brought sex up and gotte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:47 PM
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The social politeness of buying girls drinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:42 PM
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This is a lie. There are no normal people. If you buy her more than one drink you're trying to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:41 PM
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You missed a 5 Women by and large have no experience approaching. When they do it is often with the grace and subtlety of an 8th grader who's never been taught by anyone how to do it and the approach signals the wrong kinda things. It can be cute as hell if you're already into a girl, but if you're not its just awkward as hell. Look at lesbians. Lesbian dating is literally a nightmare of "who goes first" because they were neither taught nor given experience how to approach and hit on anyone so g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:38 PM
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I'm blue as fuck but yes absolutely as I've gotten better at interacting with and attracting women my standards for who I'm willing to date have skyrocketed. If you know you can get people of quality and attractiveness by your personal standards to look your way, why wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:31 PM
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Straight men are also on average awful in bed compared to what the average woman needs. Straight men don't need much in bed they're often in their own heads. Fucking a wet hole and enjoying the sensation. Unaware of the experience of the women they're with at all. Not all, but more often than not, this is the sex women who fuck straight men report. Women can find a dick very easy. Good sex is in extremely short supply. There's one guy who's damn good in bed per ten women in America at best. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:30 PM
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Male, I have connections even with casual flings. It is commitment and planning that defines casual to me, not emotional investment. If I can't talk to someone, if they don't interest me personally, I'm not really interested sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:17 PM
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Everything I said is accurate, have you not been around here long or something? And he asked a question specifically pertaining to a comment by an unhinged poster. I very civily answered his question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:13 PM
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Two things lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 08:12 PM
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There's not significant biological risk until 35 and 25 at the earliest to 35 is still a 10 year window to have a few kids in. Unless you're going for a duggar family, seems pretty reasonable. I also don't think that marriage and kids are mutually inclusive or exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 10:19 PM
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I'm 100% sure Atlas has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. She doesn't present as a sociopath. Sociopaths are chameleons. Atlas is standing up for a perspective of exploitation and self centeredness that is narcissistic. Someone with Antisocial personality disorder wouldn't be arguing on the internet to no point about it. They wouldn't get anything emotionally out of the arguments, especially being on the losing side. Atlas is a narcissist seeking validation of her predatory impulses and narciss…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 10:11 PM
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I would say yeah you do, but society is against it. Are you over 30 talking about how it used to be, or under 30 commenting on pressures now? I'd appreciate a more complete response. Why not, realistically?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 10:05 PM
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More like "I don't know how to squeeze" or "I can't get a liter of juice out of an orange" territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 10:04 PM
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The answer to this post, which is a bit nuts, is that Atlas is really nuts. You're a pretty normal dude. Atlas is a narcissist who came to Red Pill in a time when it was full of narcissistic types who were getting actively excluded from dating. Red Pill is slowly filling with other types of dudes than just exploitative abusive narcissists like it started in the early days when Seddit was full of prosecuteable date rape admissions and Red Pill was full of men who wanted to violently rape women fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 10:03 PM
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Under no circumstances do I think anyone under 25 should contemplate marriage and 30 is more reasonable. Exceptions made for immigration, two bros getting fake gay married for financial aid, etc. And yes as a bi dude I support straight dudes gaming the system for financial aid fuck the college system get what you can out of it as cheap as you can get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 09:56 PM
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I pick women up online on non matching dating sites and apps lol. I do pretty well anywhere I can send a first message without her having to know I exist before it. I also know my type and go for it, and through self improvement I became more of what my type wanted and I see a good bit of success. You say beauty isn't in the eye of the beholder. Well, yeah it is. But. People are much more socially aware often than we really think about. The concept of "arm candy" is a pretty old one and goes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 09:53 PM
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My experience with MGTOWs is that they come in one of two flavors. 1) Too many issues interacting with women that they don't want to try to overcome and would rather focus their energy away from women and into other places they feel effort will be better rewarded 2) Bitter about not being able to be on the default permanent upside of a power dynamic just by existing just like most incels that I see seem to be but not unable to get laid ever like incels so they have to actually walk away as oppos…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 09:21 PM
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You nailed it on the head. Like down the line you understand how society dictates whats normal much more than biology and THAT is the real Red Pill that the Red Pill doesn't want to swallow. In their dumb universe the actual matrix they need to wake up from is the idea that the way things have worked pretty much since the advent of agriculture and then war is not actually what is natural for humans and it is the nature of property that so distorted our social perceptions and actions for so long …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:51 PM
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By modern definitions of rape it was extremely common. Now, how often were women conditioned to accept sex from controlling husbands as part of their duty? Very often for the last two millenia, perhaps longer. So if you took a woman from back then who was ignorant and if you go further back than a few hundred years likely illiterate and asked if it was rape, you might well get a no. If you took a modern woman who's educated and used to choosing what happens to her body and when and put her back …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:45 PM
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The idea that you can't be sure of her intentions in dating is ludicrous and a sign that the guy is unwilling to talk about or face hard truths for fear of rejection. I do serious relationships and if going to things that aren't all about you is a negative aspect of the relationship you're an emotional child who really doesn't belong in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:42 PM
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lmao "Silly?" Lets see how many I can come up with for you that are real and that I actually pick people based on. These are all pretty hard dealbreakers absent some AMAZING chemistry. I am a guy who dates women fyi. -No assault rifle owners (I live in texas girls with guns totally exist and they're all batshit) - No political conservatives of any kind - No small yappy dog owners - No _exclusive_ vegetarians/vegans (I refuse, if you won't eat my non sexual meat we are not compatible, if you eat …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:39 PM
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The vast majority of Americans are mentally ill and the vast majority of those are unaware that they are mentally ill, creating the most massive mental health denial complex any society has ever seen. So yeah you're on the nose a bunch of dumbass guys who have natural charisma and don't get that about themselves trying to advise people on how to be them when they don't have natural charisma decided that they didn't need academics or "science" to tell them about women's behavior they're more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:18 PM
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Ouch. I can see it. I agree on the not funny. I haven't laughed at the incel community in years and never at foreveralones and the less hateful and less violently unhinged segments of the lonely-sphere. I see alot of people who just don't want to do years of self improvement work to get where they want to be, and lots who can't be convinced that self improvement would ever work. You see women as a monolith and that I really just don't get though. But I do get having bigger life problems than not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:14 PM
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Saying that "alphas" are a one dimensional asshole caricature is not describing things accurately. Saying that "alphas" exist as far more than just assholes and that people with leadership qualities can come in all kinds of personalities is accurate and a complex statement that is 100% true. It is only Red Pill that needs to believe that all leaders are unrepentant narcissists out to exploit others at every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:06 PM
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Not much you ever say is, but hey of all the voices in this forums yours is usually one of the echoes I see laughed at by others most often so cheers if I'm not laughing at least someone is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:38 AM
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Yeah and I'm telling you that you don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:37 AM
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thinking about the inner lives of women at all is a beta mindset. who cares about what the women think or say, or whether its a reward or they "want it to" or anything. its about you, not them you cant still ensure they enjoy sex, but you do it for YOU, because it gets YOU off and because YOU take pride in your sexual prowess ​ Etc. This is what you're agreeing with. This, clinically observed, is a narcissistic flawed thought that puts being empathyless on a pedestal. Lacking empathy is not how …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:33 AM
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No, narcissists act like that. Alpha =/= narcissist except by her standards and the idea that all men who are capable of leading a room are narcissistic in nature is a straight up flawed thought. I get how you'd think that, narcissists are greedy and so in a capitalist society that elevates greed (profit) it is the narcissists who are at the top right now, that doesn't mean those people are to be emulated it means there aren't enough woke people yet and capitalism is still really good at maintai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:30 AM
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No I'm saying that your father's experience biased you into thinking the world works that way everywhere just like her experience has baised her. And no, an actual alpha as even most red pillers who aren't nuts like Atlas describe isn't an exploitative abusive narcissist who gives zero fucks about anything having to do with the woman and feels like he's won the interaction by getting laid by giving the woman as little time, attention, money, and anything else he can avoid giving her as possible.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:28 AM
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Your loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:23 AM
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Bottom tier men and women aren't only ugly. There are also lots of socially repugnant average people in the bottom teir and literally no one wants to date them, even the uggos. See: /r/braincels and more than half of the actual pics posted by users there. I've legit seen dudes more handsome than me bemoaning some facial feature they think is the kiss of death and I'm like "dude have you talked to a therapist about your body dysmorphic disorder?"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:21 AM
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Bi/Pan, nonmonogamous, woke, highly intelligent, pretty, kind, sarcastic/clever, marvel/harry potter fan, John Mullaney/Patton Oswalt fan, wants kids, smokes weed, moderately to very kinky.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:15 AM
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Your observations are extremely limited and your clear bias in favor of the kinds of people you are attracted to and spend time with has slanted your experience and views towards thinking that the most successful people are those who display open narcissistic traits, and your own personal issues with it cause you to express these observations in a positive way because you relate to the mindsets and they make emotional sense to you. I didn't insult you. I observed you and described you objectivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:11 AM
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The bluest thing I think is that the average man is significantly more emotionally immature and lacks self awareness of his emotions and internal processes than the average woman across western culture and that as much as 80% of the straight male population are a complete waste when it comes to dating and relationships and should be avoided at all costs. The reddest is that at least a solid 50% of women are undateable and that male standards should rise to reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:05 AM
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All of the power structures that make men expendable were established by and are still run by men. All of the companies that used men as expendable labor and had to be fought tooth and nail for safety standards were run by men then and are still mostly run by men now. All of the wars fought over stupid, petty, or greedy aims in history pretty much were fought by men. Way back when, when men first started stealing and raping women after conquering a native tribes, well, yep, still all men. To say…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 03:03 AM
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I like how being a strong independent woman is the worst possible version of yourself. Counter argument. You represent a specific viewpoint that we are moving away from and dating is no longer for you because you do not want to want what women are trying to become, and people like you will find as the generations go on and the internet allows us to raise more and more kids in a pretty feminist culture whether the rest of you like it or not more and more there won't be people with your traditiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:53 AM
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I think you just asked a question that has a highly individualized answer and that you can't possibly accurately generalize women on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:51 AM
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I think that our society has been designed to create and exacerbate an artificial lack of emotional maturity and critical thought in the average human especially in America and that this is occurring at a very critical time of social change and so yeah the current incarnation of mate selection is like a snapshot in the middle of the most massive social change in human history and is not indicative of where we'll end up when the coin stops spinning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:50 AM
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Life stages matter a bit age gaps much less so, maturity gaps matter a ton. Most men in decent relationships with younger women aren't in transactional red pill type relationships. My gfs are both a decade younger than me and tbh it's just if you want smart, pretty, funny, and single they mostly don't exist past about 25. I don't date women my age because none of the ones I'd consider dating are single and I don't feel like haunting the internet for a few years hunting for one who's recently sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:48 AM
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I'm gonna go ahead and say that "Am I The Asshole" on reddit is not the most balanced of audiences and even that reddit feminism is often full of it's own issues as any group of people who share some beliefs tend to be. I tend to draw the line on, are you shaming someone for something they cannot help, or shaming someone for a choice. In this case, yeah, if you are a feminist who fucks an unrepentant and open misogynist it's not even about "rewarding his behavior" it's you just are a person with…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:41 AM
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I love how "alpha" is straight up now just a narcissist. And how you're generalizing that all men are and almost should be narcissists. Your neurodivergence is not one to celebrate or propagate, Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:34 AM
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I don't think most women have those bad boy experiences. I think the specific subset of white upper middle class straight American women that red pill both fetishize and hate tend towards bad boy experiences. I also think that "bad boy" experiences is kinda a way of not directly talking about the fact that a ton of men are genuine assholes who's "confidence" stems from their lack of empathy for others and that telling those men from men who actually give a shit can be difficult. If you want a ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:20 AM
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Not really. I don't hate her and her new husband is enough like me that we get along if she's not in the room. If she wasn't such a jealous bitch we could like coparent together and not have to stay on opposite sides of our son's extracurriculars. But she's factually unahppy with her life all the time and you can see it on her face and I am not unhappy in my life without her and she knows it makes her really fucking stupid for leaving me cause I was seriously committed. I was willing to go to co…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:19 AM
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She's married to me Version 0.65 and I am in a poly relationship with two girls who are both much hotter than her which matters waaaayyyyy more to her than to me but like she can't be in the same room as me and anyone I date she has anger episodes about it and acts nuts. Like clear jealousy spiral that she tries to pretend is just hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 02:51 AM
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Too many grey areas to address this simply.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:52 AM
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I don't but I'm also poor so my partners aren't choosing me for wealth either. Also they pretty much let me run the finances in the family. I'm the mathy one of the three of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:51 AM
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My ex wife married a weaker willed, dumber, fatter version of me. And she locked him down hard after I moved in a girlfriend after the divorce and stopped talking to me, so I think she wanted me to come like beg to come back and I told her the day the divorce was signed I'd consider a reconciliation if she wanted one but we'd have our first date in a therapists office.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:50 AM
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To answer this question I'd have to preface this with the fact that there are multiple dating markets in existence with different rules. The Christians and the kink community are going to be pretty polar opposites in alot of ways and like all humans will have a ton of similarities, but the differences are stark enough to qualify them as "separate dating markets" So I'd say in that context that within a few markets I have a very high SMV and within more markets my gfs are high SMV and if I had to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:47 AM
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Daughter, two girlfriends, many female friends. I'm around women all the time and blue as fuck because women aren't some foreign scary creatures I need to generalize to try to regain some level of social power over so yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 01:43 AM
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Huh. I think about them all the time but I'm not obsessive or up their ass about it. I don't send more than a few messages without waiting for a response and just don't date people who keep me waiting much. I want to be into someone, I want them to be into me, and if they aren't I move on. I consider dealing with someone being ambivalent about dating me to be settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 03:52 AM
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I've always wondered. Never sent one, only send dick pics during sexting to people who have or are planning to play with it. ​ I genuinely do not understand, all I can think is that this is what flashers in the past were about and now you can just do it online instead of streaking a stadium or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:40 PM
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Dating isn't hunting and your perspective on it as "A lion asking a gazelle how to hunt them better" basically removes all female agency from the equation. Feminism isn't about dating tips, it just lays out some ground rules for what isn't allowed now. The rest is not the job of feminism, to figure out how to help men find success in dating women. Now, you ask why lots of male feminists think it's dating advice? The answer to that is that they were already datable minus some real issues that wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:37 PM
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Status where? You're generalizing the worst outcomes in a highly individual circumstance. I went through a divorce as the one who got dumped by my ex wife and her entire family clustered around me for a good while until she straight up threatened to remove our son from their lives if they didn't remove me. They said no until her mother died young and were genuinely afraid she'd remove him from their lives. Some divorces go well, others don't. Some are public, others private. You're asking a ques…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 10:32 PM
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You aren't a niche. Women have niches. You misunderstand. I figured out what niches there were and I figured out how to move myself towards some of them. You figure out what some group of women want and you move in that direction personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:12 PM
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Many, they're just quiet about it. People who open up and don't have issues with it don't end up online complaining about their relationships and lots of things that happen in poly and/or open as a matter of course are considered humble bragging in the monogamous world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:29 AM
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There are men who were raised to be nice, and to respect women, blah blah . They don't even register as sexual options to women Yeah, no. Men were raised to DO THINGS FOR women. That is different than "being nice" Anyone can be nice. Anyone can lead with it. I do. But that's not all I am. The kind of guys you're talking about are specifically people who all they are is nice. They're one dimensional, nice is their like "safe zone" in human interaction and they seldom leave. No, blue pill is not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:27 AM
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I think that as close as I've been able to see, people seem to be about 50/50 monogamous/nonmonogamous. That is, like half the population seems to be wired primarily for one partner and the other half seems to not be. I know there are lots of people who are happily monogamous in the kink community alongside people who very much aren't and I think the cheating issues in monogamous relationships come from this. I think if men had the sexual power (in a society that is otherwise equal by most femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:17 AM
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Primarily group sex porn of some kind and it affects my life by keeping my fantasies fresh between swinging events.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:11 AM
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I sincerely wanted to fuck my 8th grade english teacher and would have jumped on it if she'd ever showed any interest back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:08 AM
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It's not crashing, it's changing. Growth is seldom a pretty process. Progress too. Dating used to lack agency often on both sides. Rigid roles, arranged marriages, societal expectations. Those things being torn down didn't give us new patterns to depend on. They have to be charted as they go. America has an issue with instant gratification that is echoed across the rest of the world. Our generations have suffered from having way too much of it. It isn't that too much agency is a bad thing. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 03:07 AM
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Free food, no. Free boyfriend experience, yes. I've seen LOTS of girls who will casually date someone, fuck them, but as soon as there are expectations or talk of commitment of any kind they bail hard and fast. Go dutch. Seriously. Make them contribute. If you're looking for romantic interest, have her put some skin in the game. If she's not willing to, she's not that interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:57 AM
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Nope. When you're blaming a guy who hit someone, you've got a clear issue involved. A clear action. When a woman "doesn't recognize the patterns" there could be a million reasons why and without knowing her specific experience you don't know. But I'll teach you a little something about brains. One of the neurochemical responses to abuse that is possible is oxytocin. The bonding chemical. If your abuser is someone you love, the average brain will respond with a rush of oxytocin during abuse. Why?…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:53 AM
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Below a certain appearance threshold (that is factually higher for men) there is no such thing as "casual sex whenever you want". The "whenever you want" is crucial. If you're not hot you're not going to download Tinder and be inside a girl four hours later. If you're decent looking and can hold a fun conversation getting laid is just a bit more of a drawn out process where you have to find the kinda girls who like the type of guy you are. Red Pill thinks Niches are a minority of women, "Unicorn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:44 AM
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No. Men are not lions. Pretending that we don't have the critical capability of telling our emotions and impulses no is dehumanizing and blaming women for male violence just perpetuates male violence. Women are no more to blame for being beaten than men are responsible for narcissistic gaslighting and emotional abuse patterns displayed by manipulative women who act like Red Pill is terrified all women act.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:39 AM
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Nah that's what Red Pill is from an objective standpoint, not the internal idealized standpoint that Red Pill want to believe of themselves to maintain intellectual and "moral" superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 11:18 PM
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This is alot of words to say that you refuse to believe anything besides the explanation that makes your lack of success in the dating world not your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 11:17 PM
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You miss the point. The things you said are so ridiculous it's tough to engage with. How do you explain to someone who believes in a flat earth in 2019 that no globes are not a lie and neither are pictures of the earth from space? You believe things that come from nowhere. "Women feel happy and safe when attractive" or whatever because nature. That's a nonsense statement. You can't contradict nonsense that's why no one can disprove the existence of God.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:11 PM
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I changed the game first off by realizing that your first sentence is so wildly inaccurate that it is actually severely counterproductive. Second, I went online in spaces where women talked and I listened. In places that came before /r/relationships I went and read the honest shit women posted about their lives and I tried to understand girls. I remember the 90s. I remember "Men are from Mars, women are from Venus" and shit. That's how everyone thought and it always seemed dumb and overly simpli…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:06 PM
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Red Pill's idea of what a sexually successful man is is ludicrious. They create wild and varied overgeneralizations (AWALT being my flagship "violates numerous logical fallacies" example) which seek to remove women's agency and create an idea of a world where you can just play on natural inclinations to get laid. Red pill is the practice of drawing irrational conclusions from factual information in order to attempt to find some way to maintain patriarchal power dynamics in relationships without …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:53 PM
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I feel like you're asking me to challenge your view that the earth is flat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:47 PM
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Lots of women are moving away from mind games, but when women say "Well I want a guy to find a way to ask for my consent verbally" there's pushback from the old guard. I get it. I was a teen in the 90s, I was directly taught "grab something, she'll tell you if she wants you to stop" as how dating and escalating physical touch was done. It was all fucking stupid and yeah competent communication (like is taught in therapy) is necessary and our society isn't structured to teach people how to have r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:45 PM
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So, what, is your old lady brain suggesting we return to "Knock out with club, drag to cave?" or what? Is that like what you think natural human dating is? I'm genuinely curious where this line of thought is going because ethics and morality don't exist anywhere, ever, unless people inject it into the situation. The idea that dating involves ethics is that if it doesn't, then there's no structure present to make the relationship healthy for both parties. These ideas you're seeing, besides tradit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:07 PM
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Happens quite frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:04 PM
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MGTOW is reactionary bullshit and relative to what is going on in the world it is a petulant escalation of perceived passive aggressiveness. MGTOW understands that no one will miss them or their interactions so they take it to some next level of societal and personal disengagement where they can act like they are MORE disengaged from women than women are from them, thus they win. It's the social equivalent of being arrogant about voluntarily naturally selecting yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:03 PM
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Red Pill isn't designed to make men more successful in relationships. It is designed to justify the lack of success some men see in the casual sex market and try to find a way around it without directly engaging with modern dating culture in any way. If Seddit is people who seem to be trying to figure out how women actually work and how to talk to them, Red Pill is men trying to figure out themselves and how to talk to themselves and ignoring women entirely. Red Pill is an attempt to remove all …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 06:59 PM
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If casual sex is more freeing your relationships are garbage and you should see a therapist before entering into one again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 06:45 PM
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If you're looking for personality disorders, yeah lots probably do, no it's probably nothing like universal. If you're looking at like some serious incarnation of depression or anxiety I would say that 90% of both sides of this board is mentally ill at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 06:43 PM
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You create alot of labels based on assumptions don't you? You call hitting the gym and learning game "stripping themselves of conditioning" and you ignore pretty much any area of self improvement. But yeah I don't know why I'm talking to you either, you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of emotions in pretty much everything you post and it all comes out as assumptions that service you and aren't fact based in any way. I didn't construct a strawman, you just don't recognize traits you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:34 AM
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In the last 10 years specifically? Harder. 10 years ago we were at the very beginning of online dating and much romantic matching still went on face to face much moreso than it does today. Face to face matching is somthing that, while a complete mess, was still "the way things had been done" for decades. Today, we exist in a dating world that didn't exist 10 years ago. It is just as much a mess as ever but there are fewer coherent guides for people to follow to make sense of it all and dating ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:19 AM
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I'll talk to them for a few weeks. I know my audience and I don't chat up girls who don't like guys like me. So usually it's just a matter of "Are you currently available and looking" and if they are, a bit of conversation later they come hang out and fuck me generally. I have alot of success fucking girls in open relationships with guys who are actually really chill about it. I tend more towards FWB and avoid ONS, if I'm going to fuck someone I wanna do it more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:16 AM
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The fact that you cannot tell the difference between repression and emotional control is pretty telling dude. Nothing I am talking about is stoicism. Stoicism is "Just do what you gotta" I'm talking about rational self examination and self improvment that is not currently a significant part of american culture. Internal self improvement, examining biases, assumptions, reactions, and emotions to understand them rather than going to the gym, getting better clothes, and learning to speak more eloqu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:12 AM
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Hmm. Actually I was citing an article I think got linked here about the eating disorders potentially being on the actual rise among men as image focused internet hook ups move male competition away from money/power and towards looks and expression. Women being treated badly before is not a fake idea. Like, that's the most historically incontestable fact involved in this post I don't know what you're even trying to say. Women were property. Money was exchanged from husband to father to pay for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:10 AM
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Male maturity is the ability to experience an emotion and have some objective awareness of the context of it and to be able to remain mindful of others while experiencing it. Male immaturity is losing perspective under the influence of serious emotions, losing mindfulness of self and others and allowing emotional responses to become the "truth" of the situation. "I feel attacked, therefore you were attacking me. I feel annoyed, therefore you are annoying" It is externalizing all blame for emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:49 PM
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Immature in comparison to pretty much any human being raised with a healthy and accurate understanding of their own internal emotions. In comparison to men from countries that don't have unhealthy touch barriers and hypersexualized ideas about human connection, friendship, etc. I've read writing from and talked to a ton of people from Europe who talk about the lack of touch in America being surreal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:42 PM
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No this is the post of someone who's very close to a pair of graduate degrees to be a therapist and is applying Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy concepts to America. Just because you don't know what any of this is or what a healthy emotional/cognitive process is doesn't mean that mania is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:39 PM
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Ever considered that you are a type who attracts a type?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:37 PM
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I don't experience mania, sorry. Like, legit it is not one of my symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:35 PM
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The awful partner choices thing is, I think, a temporary state of affairs. We're absolutely in a time of change and dating as it exists isn't where things are going to end up much moreso than likely any other time in human history. The internet and the conversations it enables are changing social dynamics rapidly. Part of that is the introduction of lots of fact based discourse, articles written by people with graduate degrees in psychology and sociology who are trained to deal with relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:35 PM
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Fair. That definitely trumps America for most toxic societal setting I've heard of when it comes to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:31 PM
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Obviously the title was (as directly stated) an attention grab and not actually the primary thesis of anything I wrote. I'll take this as a lesson that this sub once fixed on a point of argument can't let it go even if told to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:30 PM
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Welll damn ok. Are there things I could read in more detail about this? Or is this like just scattered events and articles and stuff you've absorbed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 11:28 PM
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My brain is shutting down cause its getting close to sleep time I'll respond to this later
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:15 PM
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Then you're unaware of a ton of historical and current context to understand all of it tbh. That's why you call it a wank and literally no one else is saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:12 PM
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That's too subjective for me to say its absolutely factually inaccurate but I want to so badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:10 PM
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I think the extended adolescence exists because that's mostly what the last two generations had. Boomer life was the bumper lane at the bowling alley. Gen x was that and they deflated the bumpers half way through, and millennials just got lied to and told the alley next to the bowling alley was a lane with bumpers and gaslit by the previous two generations who lied and said "we started in that lane too!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:09 PM
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Other than obeese the rest of your post sounds like it's working as intended. The women you don't want don't want you and would just as much rather be alone or use a guy who acts like you for sex. Alot of guys when they say they want someone who acts like a woman they mean a woman socialized to be a good wife 20+ years ago, which is what I think you mean. Obedient and eager to please just to get and keep any man. You see the bad attitude because you have one by their estimation too and they show…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:06 PM
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Hmm. While women competing for men is definitely down compared to like the hellscape dating was in the 90s I wouldn't say they are above it, but the increasing rate of things like male eating disorders simultaneously supports this point while contradicting your assertion that women are the more mentally ill of the two genders. You talk about the average happiness of the population but you're ignoring the experience of all the women who hated being second class citizens so they could be apportion…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:01 PM
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Umm. Did you read the entire post? They're alot more than one factor mentioned and the one you're talking about affected a majority of our nation for most of the last hundred years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:51 PM
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Unable to handle real genuine emotions at full intensity with adult self control, unable to rationalize their emotions internally causing them to externalize blame and them control, unable to identify specific emotions by name and discus emotional experiences rationally, unable to be mindful of others without constant effort and attention due to not being taught these habits as children, unable to make decisions based on rationalized emotions and critical thought simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:49 PM
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How to put this Either a) not everyone had awful families and you're one of those or b) you don't understand what I mean by the difference between authoritative and authoritarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:47 PM
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The title was mostly for attention, I wanted to discuss the actual synopsis lol. You're the second person to mention the Saudis, are they like all rich or is that a subset of their men? Both seem possible, I really am not well traveled. Also, on my way to a masters in clinical social work, bringing DBT and CBT to the people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:45 PM
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Hmm. You call it female privilege I call it a change in focus. You say men don't have to worry about survival like they used to and women are above that, but that's not true except for the top percentage by physical appearance and ignores all trade offs that women experience trading a relationship for finances. I said relationship to differentiate from actual sex work. It is true women got picky so long as survival wasn't tied to men. That's not a bad thing, the standards were on the floor befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:41 PM
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Fair, can you give me more of an exploded version?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:33 PM
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Hmm. I'm curious as to why I don't know much about Saudi men I haven't read in an awful article about a specific bad thing or another over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:32 PM
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You should do some research into who those doctor were and what influence they had over pediatrics and childcare. But I can see that you focused entirely on the title looking for a comparison rather than the info.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:31 PM
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Boundaries don't work with someone who doesn't have the emotional self control to respect them. The choice is therapy or break up in a world where you have no way without really getting to know a guy if the next one is going to require the same shit. That seems pretty forced to me. I can't cite you more than half. You're right, some men are more emotionally open and literate than we have ever been. A minority of them. Trump still got elected, Fox News still has a massive viewership, there are fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:39 AM
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Funny you think I'm a girl but I'm actually a bi guy who's had the same experiences trying to date gay men and straight up gave up on them and now I just fuck guys and date girls. You are right about the expectations of male stoicism and how they can affect women and bring out irrational reactions in them. Emotional immaturity itself is a complex problem, some of the male side comes from male privilege, but plenty of it comes from American culture and that hits both genders equally and there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:18 AM
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The honest answer is because you're too emotionally repressed and logical to see the emotional side of it or be motivated by it and you cannot imagine making a huge life choice for an irrational reason that's considered as part of a rational decision to make kids. Balanced and emotionally healthy decisions involve both emotional reasoning and critical thought. Americans are severely handicapped about this overall because they often operate entirely from one or the other, men especially. They ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 08:56 AM
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You started this post off really well and then derailed into male focused masculine power fantasy stuff. So, first, yes Red Pill severely lacks in advice about how to be a better you. They focus on being a hotter, less emotionally vulnerable you. This is barely useful in upping your chances of casual sex and absolutely useless past the first week or three of anything even slightly romantically inclined. Red Pill has blinders on that they act like this is the only way/the best way to get laid and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 08:51 AM
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Yeah, no. You don't get it. There is a wide, thick line between "Emotional support" and "Being your partner's involuntary therapist" and the latter isn't healthy for the relationship or the partner being forced into a therapist role and agreeing to be in a relationship is not agreeing to that unhealthy bullshit. The tone of the thread is off to you because you do not understand the context and content of the interactions being discussed. You do not understand the concept of a guy who can't manag…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 08:37 AM
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The hornets nest is his mental illness that he's not addressing. If he were in a relationship that mental illness would affect his partner, and he would be directly responsible for dealing with it and trying to minimize or eliminate the effect on his partner. This is not the choice most men make when it comes to mental illness. Trained stoicism leaves men without healthy emotional coping or expression mechanisms. So when he can't actually handle his shit she either has to pretend along with him …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:48 AM
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For the same reason men try to outlaw abortions when they're in their 60s and are beyond done having kids. Because shitty dudes want to make other people's lives shittier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 07:42 AM
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CPTSD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:05 AM
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Women judge you far more on how put together your appearance is than if you're some idealized body type or facial type.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:04 AM
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No thanks, I'd rather talk my way into someone cute's bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 02:02 AM
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Feminism and identity politics aren't bullshit, it's just hard for a cishet dude who's identity is constantly validated by everything around him to understand. Yeah, there are economic issues from labor organization to wage suppression that are not at all gendered issues. Totally agree with that. But there are also economic issues that are gendered issues, and the pay gap is one of them. Saying that other compensation besides wages makes up for lost wages is the same kinda economic bullshit that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:23 PM
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You're so close to the realization that all of this is in service to capitalism and property owners and that none of this is justified and that you've just accepted "the way things are" including the standards that corporations lay out for their own benefit that justify paying part of the workforce less. This is that situation where there are 3 people, 10 cookies, the CEO has 9 and tells you "Hey that third person wants part of your one cookie" and you just go with it and focus on that third per…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 08:50 PM
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So in other words you agree that there's a pay gap and your justification is "It's justified" What if I told you that men have lead the way in accepting incredibly unhealthy working conditions and that they've worked too much overtime, sacrificed too much for efficiency, taken too many risks, to allow work environments to be what they need to be. There's a thirty hour work week in like Italy and they're doing fine. We don't need to have 40 hours of productivity out of every citizen for society t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 08:27 PM
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Actually, all you have to do is go to non matching platforms. OKcupid with it's extensive profile and questions system helps. Fetlife has been great for meeting submissive partners (like BDSM submissive not fantasy Asian wife submissive) and I'm chubby, but the platforms I choose emphasize writing and allow me to identify myself by it and identify potential partners by it too. You're right, there ain't shit I could do to get better Tinder matches besides lose weight. I just don't use Tinder to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:56 PM
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Thoughts... First, let's just remember that it is absolutely true that the diagnosis rate for mental illness in men is lower because men seek treatment less and admit that they have internal problems less than women. I'll blame 99% of that on men being trained to be stoic, we've known for years that men in the boomer and gen x generations had severe issues with not going see doctors for serious health issues that later got them hospitalized or dead. So, let's not immediately assume that the onli…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:40 PM
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Someone already covered this, you're confusing sexual and physical attraction. Looks are very tied into how physical attraction responds in people. Some people looks are also very important to sexual attraction, some people's sexual attraction comes from places other than physical appearance primarily. Varies widely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:18 PM
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Yeah, no, it has not been debunked. Like, at all. Every time I see someone say they debunk it, they throw out a bunch of justifications that don't include women getting the same hourly pay for the same work with the same qualifications. But you know, anecdotally, I've been hired on at higher pay than the women working the same job at literally every job I've ever worked, for every company I've ever worked for. Women aren't more equal. The fact that you think that just goes to show that you do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:16 PM
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Your hornets nest, clinically defined, is unaddressed mental illness that you don't deal with so she has to (if anyone wanted to deal with you, the MGTOW indicates probably not). You talk about the dam. The dam is incredibly emotionally unhealthy. The dam doesn't stop your emotions from leaking, it stops you from being in control when they do. Your emotions leak out, you act out, everyone who represses shit and has an inner hornets nest like that is this. It is terminal emotional immaturity that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:12 PM
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It is absolutely true that men (in America at least) are cripplingly emotionally immature, like below the expected emotional maturity for the average teenager raised in a good environment, and that the habit of externalizing their emotional control by being emotionally dependent on their partner is an extremely common trend. The average straight guy (again in America, at least) is absolutely an emotional gold digger. They seek to date up in emotional maturity and emotional intelligence rather th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 07:08 PM
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Oh I just think war is inevitable but if you think that men with sex bots wouldn't continue to be more misogynistic and legislate women's lives and such you're lying to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:57 PM
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Not even close. Equality would be the end of abortion politics permanently, not trying to justify a pay gap with maternity leave, and other such changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:53 PM
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Wow you must be REALLY historically uneducated for this to sound like total gibberish, to the point that even your average red piller would be embarrassed about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:52 PM
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lol women would leave men who want them to their sex bots and live their own lives. If some subset of men wouldn't accept full legal equality in every detail after that point I imagine there would be a war at some point they would lose to all the women and a shitload of very supportive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:50 PM
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They do, but evolutionary psychology is mostly bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:48 PM
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PPD poster in denial of manifest reality, news at 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:37 PM
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Yeah, no, the fact that the type of men at the top haven't changed isn't about patriarchy, that's about greed and masculinity and male privilege that hasn't been dismantled. These things are far more complex than you seem to want to look at and your generalizations that "Patriarchy is a system designed to direct male labor towards a common social good or objective" is idealistic enough to be called denial. Patriarchy is a system designed to give men power over their own homes so that power can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:36 PM
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Oh look someone misquoting empirical literature to overgeneralize and label. Nice. P.S. I'm only an outlier because the average man's personality is dogshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:32 PM
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Really? With the rise of a feminist world and the creeping of feminism into our media and thus mainstream culture, you're saying it hasn't been seriously challenged? Really? With the long history of exploitation and abuse on the part of men who have societally reinforced power over women patriarchy "does work" There is no rational grounding anywhere in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:25 PM
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Nope. I'm tall, chubby, and bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:24 PM
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Car culture was isolated to specific people who were really into car culture. I lived in a city with a pubic high school dedicated primarily to art. Though no my high school didn't have an auto shop unfortunately. Definitely would have taken it if it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:23 PM
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That's a laughable comparison. Though free markets don't work. They do not, have not, and will never exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:21 PM
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That's why I said it wasn't everyone's experience. If you wanted to group people into categories you'd need alot of categories subdivided by race, income bracket, geographic location... But we didn't have that. Lots of places didn't have that. Lots of quiet neighborhoods in white america over the last 70 some odd years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:44 PM
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I use personality to get laid in a matter of days or weeks. You just have to know your audience. Yeah, Tinder is not ever gonna get me laid with someone I like. OKcupid, fetlife, Bumble, etc can and do. Hell, I'm bisexual and it is easier for me to find girls I like who will show up and fuck me than it is to find guys on grindr who match the same basic criteria. :Edit: I do not spend much if any money to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:38 PM
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Your entire argument falls apart at the complete destruction of the real potential of half the population for the sake of the other. If patriarchy actually worked it wouldn't be challenged. Even if we assume that you're right about your red pill assumptions the idea that we should, what, shape society primarily around irrational dating preferences? is utter insanity. You literally just in one post basically explained how economic change has driven a forced equality as women must be as productive…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:37 PM
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You disagree because you think that your emotions entitle you to some control over a woman's medical decisions. You have trauma of your own related to subject and you incorrectly mistook me commenting on emotional maturity as commenting on intelligence, somehow. You personalized my comment. It was impersonal. But yes, if you are a person who thinks that your emotions give you some right or entitlement to control over women's medical choices specifically in the case of abortion where you are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:30 PM
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Oh, we definitely went out. But I grew up in Houston. Anywhere interesting you wanted to go out cost money, thus jobs and planning were needed and accommodations were made for the times in between when people had money to go out. That meant lots of pizza, hanging out at people's houses, and having the TV on. We learned to interact with movies we'd seen before in the background, learned to be quiet and focus together on new content so we could all experience it. By the time we got to college, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:19 PM
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Sure, done
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:02 PM
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Ha I still have not untrained the part of my brain that sees women as objects. ​ I've been able to greatly expand my view of women and deepen my understanding, I've learned that empathy is a choice and if you're thinking critically and mindful of any person you can choose to empathize with them and operate from that. So like, I can turn my objectification into a background process. But I started dating someone new at the beginning of this year and my selection process for dating is pretty comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:41 PM
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When I was younger it was like that, but by the time I was like 10 most social discourse revolved around current media. We talked about Dragon Ball Z and Power Rangers and Batman The Animated Series and it just grew from there. I am attracted to stories. I love a good story, most of my favorite games are ones with great storylines like Horizon, and stories make up alot of the social discourse with the kinda people I hang out with. Media tells stories, and for a long time media told very very bia…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:20 PM
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My parents do not understand basic respect as a concept, everything about them is conditional from love to respect including within their own relationship. So other than my dad not hitting and not yelling at my mom where I could see him do it (I have no idea if he did it behind closed doors but I think it's likely) I got like zero guidance and didn't get women at all until college. Then I had high speed internet and anonymity and I ended up in places like /r/relationships before reddit ever exis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:15 PM
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Because men are still privileged relative to everyone else, especially straight white men, and so many men are comfortable enough or insulated enough from issues that affect many men to not care and not feel the need to do anything to help men with an issue they don't have because boys are trained to be empathyless terminally-individualistic corporate cogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:05 PM
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What that amounts to is social isolation from the influences that affected most people. I get that. I was born in 84, and like you I had to get used to like doing real book research to know what I was talking about before there were a billion citable resources for everything free online. People who were less socially isolated were more affected by this conditioning, is all. If your friends are all into TV culture, you will likely be too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:00 PM
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For two generations in America most of American culture came from the TV. There's a reason we have the most developed media, they poured billions upon billions of dollars into producing media to keep us mentally busy and to establish a cultural narrative and it took a serious hold over the imaginations of the Boomers and Gen X. Millenials would have gone the same way if not for the internet and the re-establishment of social communities and not-corporate-decided social culture. To be fair many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:35 PM
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I find that the more I shed traditional masculinity and embrace the fact that I'm a bi dude who had enough testosterone flowing through him to start going bald at 19 and that I am my own kinda masculine, the more I find women attracted to me. Confidence really is the number 1 killer in the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:33 PM
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Your measure is off, American social dynamics are more fucked than any other first world country from the bottom up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:32 PM
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Actually I'm gonna call you back to paganism and the worship of female sexual divinity, the belief that mutual orgasm was the closes two people could come to communion with the gods, to show that yes in a very basic way men are like "OMG YOUR PUSSY IS WONDERFUL THUS SO ARE YOU" and have been enamored by what it feels like to fuck a girl since like the beginning of time. That doesn't mean that balance can't exist. It means that in a male privileged dominated society for the last few millenia we'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:30 PM
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I don't date people who are heavily involved in mainstream social media. I would be much, much more welcoming of someone who does porn than someone who's got over a thousand followers on instagram. I have much more respect for people who show themselves off for money than those who are just stuck in an unhealthy validation cycle. Business is business, but mental illness and a need to be seen by tons of people to feel like you are someone are red flags for serious narcissism and I walk the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:12 PM
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Basically, enough men are dangerous to make the generalization true like at least 80% of the time. Red pill generalizations like AWALT are actually generalizations that apply to a small subset of women who engage with things like Tinder and are White Middle Class Americans between the ages of 20 and 35 and say AWALT which is wildly inaccurate from any kind of an objective perspective. The answer to your question is your generalization doesn't get shut down because generalizations are bad, they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:08 PM
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You don't hear about it because society hasn't conditioned women through generations of war to view men as stealable/rapeable national resources of an opposing country and so there's not a thread of ownership of men winding it's way through history to be expressed by the worst men who totally could have gotten away with keeping a sex slave a few hundred years ago and are pissed today that they have to go through so much effort to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:04 PM
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All of your points are very subjective to you and your personal preferences. Like, in my family we literally have one bank account with three names and all three adults in the family have access and discuss purchases. We're broke enough no one buys much without asking the other two people in our family. Materialism varies wildly from person to person and for those of us on the low extreme end of the scale (I date people like me cause I'm not fucking stupid) money is rarely a dealbreaker. Your po…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 07:02 PM
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Agreed. UBI for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 06:42 PM
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Ok, first, I think at most half of people are like truly monogamous. I can't give you a statistic I didn't make up but between habitual cheaters and the rise of acceptable, ethical non monogamy no women do not largely want monogamy. Women are not a monolith about anything but especially sex and relationships. Your entire argument is that it's not fair for a woman to fuck more men than her man fucks women. You talk disparagingly about "slut it up" despite very badly wanting to fuck these girls be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 06:41 PM
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Nah. Fuck people who aren't virgins or don't the world doesn't owe you pussy. What needs to happen is embracing natural selection and offering comfort(real dolls) to the naturally selected
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:34 PM
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Some people are monogamous, but if I were id be doing fine. I'm not the goto for casual sex but submissives looking for ltrs love me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 07:18 PM
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1) i exclusively look for dates online. These days on fetlife.com lol. Though I did meet one of my two partners at work. 2) yep 3) I don't get matches on tinder, though I live in a city in a rural area so it's not super dense here. 4) doesn't happen to me I do not think it's a tragedy that women's standards have risen enough that some men just can't find dating success. I feel like the dating scene has seen an improvement and women being quick to dealbreakers is a necessary part of eliminating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 04:41 PM
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Raising two generations on a dream of zero accountability through acquisition of wealth in a country where schools raised the kids and parents were taught to be tyrants and everyone got their culture from TV
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:41 PM
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Yes its almost as if you.... Don't... Care... About context...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:23 AM
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Two generations of narcissists destroying the country and creating a society run from the top down by greed and materialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:54 PM
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Oh i attack the ideas too but that's not the thread. But way to attempt to create a false dichotomy in conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 11:48 PM
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No I know lots of women who are traditional who have anxiety it's just the diagnosis rate is way up. Though American society is very dystopian these days and I think we're probably more mentally ill on average than most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:52 PM
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In all seriousness reading your first post and the onset of meaninglessness because these women were so interchangeable that you couldn't connect at all to any of them in any way other than physically is sad. You assume that this girl's experience is the same as yours, that she didn't enjoy her men. I haven't fucked nearly as many people as you, barely over 20, but even as the names are hard, I can remember the sex. Good or bad it was mostly with people I liked as people and could talk to and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:15 PM
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Ohhhh fair someone is projecting their own self loathing!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:00 PM
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Yeah that's what any rational perspective comes to. It follows that TRPers are the kinda people who embrace irrational emotional responses, unhealthy patterns, and emotional reasoning for self protection. They're the kinda people who treat their anxiety response like rational thought and embrace self limitations through irrational triggers, basically. Tldr: Red pill are pretty universally people who won't challenge their own mental illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:41 PM
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I do at least agree that red pill has a big issue with men who are incapable of personal growth in any way that would affect Theriot emotional maturity or intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:38 PM
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Someone's jealous of her sex life
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:35 PM
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Men are taught to view sex as a goal to reach that is personally important to them. That they are better men if they reach the goal and men who reach the goal or "achieve success" more are better men in some intrinsic way. Women are taught to view sex as a commodity that they are the supply of and to value and increase the scarcity of the supply. Both are unhealthy. But women tend to challenge theirs more because there's not much advantage in life to being anyone's supply of anything. Men on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:33 PM
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Someone doesn't like being called out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:38 AM
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As a poly person I'll be the first to say that this is not for everyone and lots of people think they're poly and they aren't. And I'll also say that polycule "relationships flow into and out of my life freely" poly is for people with major commitment issues who want no actual responsibility to their partner beyond the rules of interaction between them while they're together. I've known too many people who have three relationships, but when they have to go to the emergency room they have to go a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 07:49 PM
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Chadfish tells us that matching apps where you swipe often based just on a picture are heavily biased towards a non majority subset of the population who want casual sex with attractive people. Tinder is not the world. It is where people often go to find casual sex that night. I do not get matches on tinder who are attractive enough for me to consider fucking but I can meet pretty girls on non matching apps like okcupid where I can send an interesting first message and appeal to emotions besides…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 07:22 PM
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Women don't fake romantic interest, they give you real romantic interest with no intention to commit and just avoid commitment topics in my experience. Its like they pay for the boyfriend experience with sex and then are shitty gfs who bail when any expectations are placed on them but who place emotional expectations on you. So yeah my experience with fuckgirls are ones who are like looking to casually exchange sex for emotional labor. But aren't up front about it at all. But I wouldn't call the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 07:09 PM
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For the most part picky is individual to the girl and personality type in my experience. I've had ugly girls tell me I'm too fat and hot girls be into me and tell me I have a dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:29 AM
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The truth is that hetero relationships are often performative and lack emotional intimacy and it is emotional intimacy that keeps sex fresh over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:27 AM
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I'm not materialistic and date the same. Property wasn't an issue in my divorce so no I can't say I'm scared of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:20 AM
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The only part of dating that isn't easy is finding something worth committing to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:18 AM
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When beauty, intelligence, and confidence collide you get a person who naturally intimidates many people around them. Combine with and kind of introverted personality that doesn't welcome interaction by default and you've got a recipe for social isolation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 10:13 AM
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I think it's more that the combination of having boomers and gen x parents (both highly narcissistic generations relative to pretty much any other time in US history) and the full swing effects of watching Reganomics and NAFTA and the Clinton Administration and the hard sell of racist police politcs and the complete lack of meaning to all of it has created possibly the most mentally ill generation in world history.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 02:32 AM
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Gen x got fucked the hardest. The oldest millennials had internet and the rebirth of social community by the time we were 18. Gen x fully realized adulthood as nuclear families getting most of their culture from tv, right in the middle of the death of a middle class supporting economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 01:51 AM
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I'm blue as fuck and bisexual and most of what you said doesn't apply. I don't pursue ONS and I'm not hot enough to get any matches on tinder but i have no issues finding dates and fwb. Though by your standards I am probably "an alpha" of some kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:12 AM
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I live in rural Texas and fetlife.com is my goto these days. Finding submissives on like okcupid is hit or miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:06 AM
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Your list seems like a list of boomer and gen x traits we're trying to stamp out of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 12:03 AM
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I do, though I fuck 5-6 new people a year and she only does 1-2. Swinging is fun dude you should try it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 05:45 PM
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The bp counter is that this generalization applies the behavior of a very small subset of white American cishet women across all women and that's absurd enough to need no other counter. It is true that it has become more common for some women (not all, not even a majority) to engage in casual sex and that lots of men are not what they're looking for and don't get to engage in this casual sex culture. But the surrounding generalizations about women being used up and settling for a "schmuck" and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:38 PM
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This post is a one dimensional caricature of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:29 PM
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1) absolutely 2) the difference between a Nice Guy and just a nice person is the nice person leads with kindness and mindfulness and the Nice Guy throws performative things attempting to build an exploitable store of good will. Girls who've never been exploited often can't tell. Girls who have seen it before often can. 3) Genuinely nice people tend to be more sexually successful than not absent serious issues preventing them from relating to others. Yes they can still be dominant personalities a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:25 PM
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I treat obtaining verbal consent as an opportunity to tease a partner. Consent is pretty clear when you tease a woman until she explicitly says "I want you to fuck me" and tell her she's gotta say it to get what she wants. I don't think I've ever fucked someone without getting them to say it. People portray it as like a confidence thing, I treat it as an adult thing. If you're an adult who wants to fuck you don't need to be shy about saying so. I'm also pretty dominant so I prefer clear permissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:09 PM
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Too many broad generalizations that don't reflect more than anecdotal experience to really address. You talk about what women do as of women are men and do the same things. This post is mostly projection and envy of the power dynamic flip in modern dating. P.s. Poly and open are alot of fun as a guy if you can get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 10:02 PM
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