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Truedemocracy5/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 03:57 PM
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Awwww are someone’s feelings hurt???
/r/askTRP26/12/19 04:22 AM
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Yep. People compare TRP to FDS. FDS is comfort nonsense. Telling them they did nothing wrong and to raise standards (fair advice when you’re already a whore which is the likely case if on that sub) TRP tells people they aren’t ok how they are and to make difficult changes. MGTOW and black pill though are the “tell people what they want to hear” contingent of the red pill, believing it’s all luck and they have no power That group is no better than FDS. Those men are pathetic
/r/askTRP26/12/19 12:21 AM
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If you look at the memes and the content it might as well be taking life advice from a lizzo song
/r/askTRP26/12/19 12:19 AM
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Basically any frequency of arguments at all. Most women with a man they can run over will start fights over trivial shit on a weekly basis. If she’s arguing with you anything more than being snippy during her period then boot her to the curb
/r/askTRP25/12/19 03:13 PM
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Yep, PUA arguably birthed the red pill I could be wrong but back in the day PUA didn’t focus much on things like lifting, but mainly how to get girls when at bars or during the day. Talks about stuff like negging more than TRP
/r/askTRP25/12/19 03:11 PM
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FDS is low RMV ghetto trash.
/r/askTRP25/12/19 03:09 PM
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This is again an above average male Average = average job. Little to no savings, a little debt Not obese but certainly not fit Social life is “normal” as in going to bars occasionally with guy friends (normal guys have small social networks. Top guys have large ones. Low value guys have none) or playing video games on weekend nights
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:08 PM
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I’ve likely been red pilled far longer than you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:05 PM
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No excuses to look like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:33 AM
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Yep. I spend $3-$5 on a lot of my shirt. If you’re lean and built you’ll look good in anything
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:14 AM
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Most men are pathetic with how we dress. Athletic shorts, t shirts, sneakers. Look like you give a damn
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:13 AM
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Agree
/r/askTRP25/12/19 02:42 AM
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They don’t disregard system. They have their own value system that is irrational yet predictable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 02:42 AM
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You fucking these girls? These relationships lasting more than 1-2 months? (When love bombing turns into this guy is pathetic) And if you’re being sexual then it likely offsets most of it. Good guys and nice guys often don’t know how to escalate and that’s what kills them
/r/askTRP24/12/19 09:02 PM
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Not my thesis. It's reality. Women dont pick men to sleep with based on logic and comfort, that's how they pick men to marry. This is Red Pill 101 stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:59 PM
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If the night club is dead then your next best bet is the pool
/r/askTRP24/12/19 07:30 PM
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And? You’ve been conditioned to think big muscles = intimidating but that doesn’t mean don’t lift
/r/askTRP24/12/19 07:24 PM
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Can see that working. Makes her realize the sex isn’t a transaction
/r/askTRP24/12/19 07:23 PM
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I have no problem paying for drinks, which most here disagree with but oh well never fucking had been an issue for me with scoring chicks That said I DO NOT buy girls drinks at a bar I just met, only on dates that I initiated. And I NEVER buy a girl food or anything beyond a glass of whiskey if we aren’t fucking
/r/askTRP24/12/19 07:22 PM
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There is no mean. Value changes based on setting and situation. The chubby guy in upper management is valuable in the office but not out of it. The guitar player has value at the bar but none out of it. One thing you’ll learn about women is they have no consistency in their value of men. It’s just whatever guy is worth the most at that time in place. It’s why the high school quarterback gets girls, not the future doctor. It’s why the doctor gets girls, not the former quarterback
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:01 PM
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Actually, it does. Because the person speaking on their preferences obviously have no idea what they want If you want to start a business ask a business owner, not a customer who will give you 100 different stupid ideas. Women are no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:59 PM
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Courted more women then you ever will so actually know much much much more on the topic than you Now how a dick tastes on the other hand, I will let you be the expert on ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:48 PM
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Again what does that have to do with anything. Why are you so triggered by facts. Thin meek bodies are a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:23 PM
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And a lot of them play dumb to have plausible deniability but know in fact these guys like them. I could never imagine continuing to be close friends with a woman if I took a pass at her and it fell through
/r/askTRP24/12/19 06:22 PM
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Go to a large gym and you’ll see those guys Also agree the stumpy lift looks bad as well, which is tough if you’re shorter. But even getting that big takes years of lifting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:20 PM
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Think you need to look up the word discrimination and understand what it actually means And who said anything about you feeling bad for marathon runners? Reading comprehension sweetie
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:18 PM
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Hard to tell. But I’ve seen women who seem sweet flip a switch So i am only friends with girls who I know I could sleep with if I wanted to or ones I don’t find attractive
/r/askTRP24/12/19 06:17 PM
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Haha same with the push ups! Can do 50 consecutive good form pushups but struggle benching my body weight. I’m 6’3 and 210 at maybe 16% body fat. For those lifts right now do: Bench press. 4x8 170 pounds Deadlift 4x8 295 pounds Overhead press 4x8 115 pounds Squat 4x8 265 pounds Long wing span and small wrists are my blame for bench press not really being great. But am tired of bulking (was 175 18 months ago) and am ready to get lean again so trying to lose 10-15 pounds by spring
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:14 PM
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Good call out on riverdale. Women think their standards aren’t obtainable. Which really isn’t true - there is no example of modern fitness from women in movies that they can’t get to with regular work outs and diet. But if you want to look like someone such as Chris Pratt in guardians or Creed in the creed movies you literally can’t. It takes steroids and as you said, starving / dehydrating self plus a certain pump plus lighting Go watch the old Sean Connery bond movies. Dude was a former body b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:08 PM
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Low value on who’s terms? Societal terms? The deadbeat starving artist is low smv but high smv to women. Same with a drug dealer. Men’s terms? The shredded pool boy is low to men but high smv to women Unless you’re taking about PUA which are low value men acting like players. But id still disagree. As someone who’s gone down that path once you have consistent success with PUA you internalize that stuff and actually become the smooth guy yourself. Then you are no longer low value
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 06:05 PM
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Lmao at all the “isms” you just made up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:53 PM
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Oh man if you’ve never been behind closed doors with a woman who has orbiters you have no idea They absolutely shit on these people. Even the ones who are their “friends” they will laugh at their expense and view you more as a puppy than a penis (awww but he’s so sweet) Guys. If she doesn’t want to fuck you then she doesn’t respect you
/r/askTRP24/12/19 02:36 PM
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We got a similar build. What are your major compound lift #s out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:09 PM
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Lol the marathon runner body on men is gross to most women. They don’t want someone who weighs less than they do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:07 PM
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Too much muscles on a guy is a myth. You can’t get to that level without steroids - trust me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:05 PM
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Thought about this. As women gain financial power over men a man being a provider isnt a differentiator. She will either want men who make more than her (a shrinking group) or men who are better looking (trophy guy) The dad bod nice accountant loses. The broke physical trainer or wealthy investment banker wins
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:03 PM
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There’s definitely been a shift with things like television and movies. Look at a buff bod 20 years ago - gladiator for example. That looks like a dad bod compared to the marvel shit that’s came out Instagram and social media has also normalized shredded dudes. While there are fitness channels for women a skinny but otherwise out of shape woman will not look THAT different than a fit woman, unless you actually train and can eye the subtle differences For men it’s much more noticeable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:59 PM
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Yep. Gunbuster got caught in his argument and is now desperately back pedaling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:50 PM
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Half of ugly people is a sizable portion of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:46 PM
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Would also add not a gullible idiot Sadly that cancels out your church girls
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:45 PM
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Impossible for me to say or agree, every married sap thinks they have a unicorn
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:43 PM
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“That doesn’t mean act on it”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:42 PM
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Women make bad decisions all the time. Red pill accepts this. Banging an Alpha Fucks type is generally a bad decision. The beta is logically a better decision. Women don’t operate on logic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:41 PM
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Plant based meat is another item being forced by the left. “Healthier” “better for the environment” Again a shit test to make weaker more controllable men
/r/TheRedPill24/12/19 01:33 PM
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lol wrong. Red Pill is not nearly that much ingrained in society
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:01 AM
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not really
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:01 AM
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Sadly, that is not how value is defined. You can think your one dollar bill is the greatest bill in the world and worth a billion dollars. No one else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:00 AM
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not that poster but the bodybuilding.com message board basically refers to red pill methodology quite frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 05:00 AM
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Hard to do and be 100% sure since they arent going to give it away or say bullshit like "spin plates". That said I think it will be more noticeable in time. The manosphere is getting more mainstream, and the red pill with it. Many blue collar guys are already pretty red pilled about women though arent smart enough to connect all the dots. ​ White collar types i.e. Reddit are often giant pussies when it comes to women. Rise of feminism and liberal politics in major cities and campuses only builds…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:59 AM
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There is a TON of hamstering in this comment section from women, it's hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:54 AM
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ha haha hahahahahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:53 AM
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beta* males
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:53 AM
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And again exhibit A of a woman having no idea how she works. Dont ask fish how to catch fish
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:51 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHA this is so fucking rich cant believe someone believes this unironically. Women only fuck men of value. If they are fucking them without commitment then those men either have immense value or have aspects to them they find more sexually appealing than their 'hubby' - aka a idgaf personality or hot body compared to resources and security.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:51 AM
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Wrong. On their thoughts and logical portion of the brain they suck ​ On their emotional side which actually makes decisions? They are high value
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:46 AM
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Cope. ​ As a guy there isn't a better metric for your life than if women want to fuck you. Looks, income, personality, status - your SMV encompasses EVERYTHING - it is the most important metric to define yourself by ​ That doesnt mean act on it. But it determines you position in society
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:44 AM
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Only Bloopers consider fuck boys low value. They are generally classic Alpha Fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:41 AM
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the closest thing to a unicorn is just a high quality LTR. ​ AWALT but some women are qualty enough to be considered 'unicorns' - though exceptionally rare. ​ Likely: ​ - n count less than 5. All from relationships - more conservative family values - good relationship with family - little to no social media use - doesnt get FOMO - Has goals. This does NOT mean ambition. It can, but corporate climbers are among the worst to date - Views motherhood as a privilege, not a burden - Healthy lifestyle …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 04:37 AM
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Yep. Women also are poor estimators of physical strength. A power lifter will look less strong to them than someone who is vascular
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:30 AM
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Love investing in companies like chipotle going through a scandal that doesn’t impact their long term business strategy Peloton very recently with that ad was similar. Took a stock hit, bounced back up very quickly
/r/TheRedPill24/12/19 01:06 AM
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Probably just fuck her
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 06:45 PM
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Opposite actually. Am considered very good looking and women usually come up and hit on me openly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 06:01 PM
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Painfully true. I have small wrists, am tall, and lanky I lift 5x a week, diet on point, etc. despite this regular lifting can only get to 225 for one rep on bench. But can pick up things like distance running much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:20 PM
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This is true. If you’re in lifting circles or go on bodybuilding message boards you’ll have a pretty warped view I’ve been working out regularly for 5 years and lifting not for about 2. By any conventional lifting measures Im between a novice and intermediate. I’m 6’3 and around 205. I can only bench 225 for ONE REP. Despite that I get called: jacked built like a super hero built like Gaston muscular From social circles of men and women. At my gym I’m definitely on the weaker side of men is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:17 PM
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The girls I know who are the most vocally feminist have also been the biggest hypocrites when it comes to dating. Equal parts funny and pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 04:07 PM
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It’s pretty clear what I’m saying. Suggest re-reading a couple times buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 05:31 AM
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There are blessings in having no expectations and nothing to lose
/r/askTRP22/12/19 11:45 PM
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Women of any age will have dick thrown at them. That’s not what the walls about It’s about quality dick (the ones they want commitment from) and their ability to leverage power over it
/r/askTRP22/12/19 11:44 PM
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If someone’s consistently making self depreciating jokes I assure you they have poor self esteem
/r/askTRP22/12/19 10:08 PM
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Ok wrinkles
/r/askTRP22/12/19 07:41 PM
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Would add a caveat to this statement. Women don’t push men to make stereotypes. There’s a huge movement from women to ask men to share feelings, not be so “toxically masculine”, not make sexual advances, be ok with earning less money, etc etc But.... Women REWARD men who fulfill male stereotypes. They want someone tall, strong, wealthy, and to be dominated in every aspect When you meet women they deny this through their teeth with their words only to fulfill it with their behavior you will reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:09 PM
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AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:06 PM
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Yep. Behind almost every red piller was a broken hearted blue piller. You think the average red piller wants that reality to be true? No. But it is the reality we live in and must operate in
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:04 PM
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Because red pillers recognize that the only plane unconditional love, or anything resembling it, exists on is between a parent and a child You’re not loved for you, you’re loved for what you bring to the table. Anyone who went from Loveless beta to someone “Spinning plates” surely recognizes this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 05:03 PM
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Never seen a bigger load of shit than this post lol
/r/askTRP22/12/19 04:46 PM
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Disagree with other comments here. Bringing a friend is always better when traveling, but has to have the caveat: similar time you in what you want to accomplish. Want an active trip? Want to go to museums? Want to go to clubs or not to that stuff? Make sure the person is similar Someone similar to you that’s a friend makes traveling much much much better. No need to be a loner in everything you do
/r/askTRP22/12/19 04:45 PM
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Found the old hag that doesn’t understand dating dynamics lol
/r/askTRP22/12/19 04:39 PM
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PM me a pic of your face, hard to give advice without knowing if it’s a true deformity or just incel nonsense
/r/askTRP22/12/19 03:42 PM
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Current DiCaprio for sure. Women don’t mind dating up in age. Gives men a larger dating pool
/r/askTRP22/12/19 03:14 PM
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Again trying to simplify this to some good vs bad debate when it comes to people. Very immature view of the world In reality the vast vast vast majority of people you meet are self serving, that includes you, that includes me. With small percentages on either side that are great people or complete cunts AWALT buddy. Has nothing to do with a woman’s moral compass
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 03:14 PM
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For men, yes. Women lust after George Clooney, not a 21 year old
/r/askTRP22/12/19 04:49 AM
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Marry a doctor :D
/r/askTRP21/12/19 04:14 PM
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Woman who isn’t self aware of her own sexual preferences disagreeing with the red pill - more at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:13 PM
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“You’re such a slut, I would never form a relationship with you” though....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:11 PM
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Nearly every girl in a one night stand says that hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:10 PM
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In my experience it’s mostly correct. Again with any quick line there’s truth to it, but also nuance you have to consider. Same with this one or with another quality one: men love women, women love children, children love puppies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 04:09 PM
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Wrong. And women don’t value youth and fertility in looks, men do
/r/askTRP21/12/19 04:04 PM
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Depends. Historically, yes, women were well aware of their clock and thus shamed their own daughters if they were still single into their mid to late 20s Now? 25 is still “so young” and late 20s are still the time to travel and discover yourself (whore talk, these things you can easily do in a relationship). These women live for the day and have no idea what’s coming
/r/askTRP21/12/19 04:03 PM
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I’d recommend trying to find some real life ones as well you can use to mentor you Thing is you’ll never find one whose everything you want to be. But separate them - a business mentor, a fun mentor, a fitness mentor, etc
/r/askTRP20/12/19 09:31 PM
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You say closing so I’m going to assume you mean with a girl you just met. There is both physical and mental kino, physically being escalating the degree of touch between you two. Mental being escalating (in her eyes) the time spent between you two. This will sound tacky but trust me it works: Physical: -initial touch. Should be on arm or shoulder when telling a story or joke - moving across room to get a drink, bar, whatever - guide her by small of her back. - if sitting next to each other let y…
/r/askTRP20/12/19 09:25 PM
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Red Pill self actualization is knowing pussy comes up to you and that you don’t have to go after it Let the drunk sloots be drunk sloots. You handled it well
/r/askTRP20/12/19 09:08 PM
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Nexting someone was far less common. You weren’t dating multiple people at a time unless you were a SERIOUS player or slut on either side. Now, it’s never been easier to pull together a bunch of interested candidates So you’d go on dates and would likely see the person again unless there was something badly wrong with them. This could be a good or a bad thing - market is more efficient now so a hot introvert of either gender used to be dating someone below their league, less common now Being exc…
/r/askTRP20/12/19 06:05 PM
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When it comes to divorces I still blame men for being shell shocked. From the outside it’s pretty damn clear something is amis
/r/askTRP20/12/19 05:51 PM
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Last part is key. So many here worry about divorce rape. Marry a woman who has her own ambitions and finances and you can’t get divorce raped.
/r/askTRP20/12/19 05:48 PM
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Sounds pretty gay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 05:21 PM
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Calm down. Here’s some quick tips for you: A: red pillers are a very small percentage of the population. There’s a good chance you’ve never even met one B: if you did and they had any idea what they were doing you would never know they were red pilled. The women’s rights nutcases and other feminists I bagged would never in a million years think of getting with a red piller C. If you did meet one and they didn’t pursue you it’s not because you aren’t a slut, it’s because you aren’t attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 05:16 PM
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Canned pickup lines isn’t red pill. You say it doesn’t work on you - you don’t even know what it is Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 05:07 PM
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No, RP realizes you exist. Women don’t know they are being gamed when they are. You are just too high and mighty to think it wouldn’t work on you. It does.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:41 PM
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The ideal dad bod that some reference is someone who still lifts/works out 4x a week and is basically on a bulk cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:40 PM
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Any normal person would think that’s weird haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:08 PM
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I can’t imagine going solo to an office party for a SO that’s the most pathetic thing I’ve ever heard
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 03:07 PM
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Mathematically that is possible, But it’s a misinterpretation of the rule. Basically women only find 20% of men PHYSICALLY attractive or attractive enough to consider sleeping with without the promise of resources Tons of men are in relationships because women like their personality, income, comfort, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:49 PM
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It’s not that women want Chad, it’s that they will throw away any and all inhibitions to be with “chad”. That can include being cheated on, receiving zero commitment, get treated like dirt, etc and that personality means nothing, kindness for sure means nothing, and basically everything you were taught goes out the window Been both sides of the coin so know this quite well
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:46 PM
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Haha yep. Would it be better if I said men weren’t any different? People aren’t special and we are hard wired to our biological impulses
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:16 PM
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This is the correct answer. And once you’re red pilled you understand how the female brain works Dad bod originated from an Odyssey article by a southern college sorority girl a few years back. She was talking about how attractive it is because the most attractive guys on campus (in this case fraternity members) had them. If you were Greek at a southern school you’d realize how many dudes have pudgy bodies from not working out as much as in high school combined with all the beer. She was legitim…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:35 PM
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Lol at buying into this lie. No one likes dad bods. They like the fact you aren’t attractive enough to get other women to pursue you and are thus pure comfort. Read about the origin of the term dad bod, once you understand it then get back to me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:27 PM
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AWALT Blue pill cope is thinking the only women it works on are sluts. Fact is all women are sluts and whores for the right man. You need to accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:25 PM
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Once you become red pilled you realize most women aren’t even aware of what they are attracted to, and actually appreciate the ones that are and are brave enough to say “tall guy with 6 inch cock” Women have power in being viewed as innocent and morally superior creatures. Some have even convinced themselves of this so much that they believe the lie. Red pill reveals their attraction for how ugly it really is - they don’t like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:24 PM
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Couple factors metoo and women in general complaining about being pursued. While this is generally intended for low betas and omegas, it’s caused a lot of high betas and maybe even would be alphas to grow up cucked and not engage in that risk Also dating apps has made opportunity cost near zero for dating. Why break a sweat “chasing” you if I can line up 5 dates in the next hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:40 AM
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Haha yep. If women were logical they’d go after and lock down the nerdy kid in high school or college. Instead they chase the jock or frat bro
/r/askTRP19/12/19 11:11 PM
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Status is how your peers place you, and this can be situational The lead singer of a band at the bar has VERY high status in that moment and in that room. If there’s a girl who’s single there he can likely score her, even if he’s broke. High status, no money The fat exec at your company as high status in the walls of your office. Men shmooze him and women flirt or even sleep with him. Outside the office with randoms he has no power. Money = situational status The accountant has a stable and nice…
/r/askTRP19/12/19 11:06 PM
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6’2 and chubby or rail thin won’t get you girls mate Being tall alone isn’t much lol
/r/askTRP19/12/19 07:47 PM
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It’s counter intuitive. Women legitimately don’t know what they want because they want is barbaric, just as barbaric as what men want. They prefer to think themselves sophisticated but end of day just animals like we are
/r/TheRedPill19/12/19 07:46 PM
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Brilliant post. You’ll see stuff like this, though not as blatant, mixed in throughout your daily life Maybe it’s the girl complaining to you for listening to Baby It’s Cold Outside. Maybe it’s your employer wanting you to go to gender awareness training. Perhaps it’s just the typical woman blabbering about how sexist society is The weaker man will read that article and think “I should never check a girl out” or “wow I never thought how dangerous my mere presence could be”. Trust me - those wome…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/19 07:39 PM
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If she makes similar money it cancels a lot of that risk out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 06:17 PM
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Women are red pilled because men don’t lie about their sexual preferences the way women do. Women do lie to other women however, and due to feminism you are seeing a female blue pill emerge. Focus on career! Don’t settle down! Travel around! Sleep around! Which is the new blue pill lie for women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 06:02 PM
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I fall in the “reluctant player” category. Am tall, handsome, in shape, so gettin women isn’t an issue. However, after joining RP few years back and experiencing its truths first hand with women I also don’t get attached very easily. Never been one programmed to sleep around, and turn down causal sex from bar girls or girls on apps many times just because I dont really care too much to do the dirty with someone that I know won’t go anywhere. So my dating life usually is sleeping around with girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 06:00 PM
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If you want kids it’s the risk you take
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 05:52 PM
1

Agree and disagree. Yes they want the alpha of the group. So if you go to a comic con where there’s way more girls than guys the attractive girls will still date and be with guys who are generally conventionally attractive and have social skills. They might even like them more than the football player frat bro But I’ve also seen these women throw away their bullshit preferences time and time again for a Chad type guy. Liberal starving artist who paints about racism for a living? Will still want …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 05:52 PM
-1

Sure thing fag
/r/askTRP19/12/19 03:47 PM
1

Lol so wrong
/r/askTRP19/12/19 03:46 PM
1

Lmao yes. And just as important - respect from other men. I get approached by women all the time because I now have a strong athletic build
/r/askTRP19/12/19 03:00 PM
1

I’m up to 210 from 175 two summers ago and at 6’3, going to cut in the spring down to 195 or so. You have ton of room to grow. Need at least 20 pounds of good weight, ideally more
/r/askTRP19/12/19 02:59 PM
1

Work on yourself so your self esteem isn’t shit
/r/askTRP19/12/19 02:58 PM
3

It’s a bar job dude, not a career. Shit away
/r/askTRP19/12/19 02:55 PM
-2

Doing nothing is convincing yourself it’s alpha when it’s really a beta move
/r/askTRP19/12/19 02:51 PM
-1

That’s confrontation dipshit not crying and complaining
/r/askTRP19/12/19 02:38 PM
0

Lol how is that beta? Ignoring is beta. The above is more assertive and definitely better in terms of career
/r/askTRP19/12/19 01:01 PM
8

If you’re a guy the easiest way to make sure you don’t end up in a dead bedroom is to make sure you’re still desired by other women Women sense this shit like crazy. Call it female mate guarding
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 05:03 AM
2

The last part is true - but that’s why red pill prioritizes low n count women ALL women want alpha cock. Ive gotten with those nerdy girls before who have their safe nerdy boyfriends. They aren’t different in their primal instincts. A low n count woman means she hasn’t had the taste of it yet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:42 AM
1

Not that poster but my dads straight up told me
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:35 AM
3

Yep. Women aren’t maturing. Their needs are just changing. Put them back into a sandbox, remove money, and they will go after a different guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:34 AM
1

Studies mean shit. Want me to link contradicting research ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 04:32 AM
-4

Not really, and not nearly the same as for women Don’t kid yourself. Both genders have advantages and disadvantages. Time is yours, and it’s ticking
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:39 AM
0

Among a number of reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/19 12:38 AM
15

Yes AWALT but some women are worse with this than others If they are a heavy social media user then they likely fall into the above. Even if they have an active Instagram it’s a red flag
/r/TheRedPill19/12/19 12:37 AM
-2

Taking that quote out of context sure. But with everything else - yes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 10:13 PM
2

I’d add some caveats. Alpha bucks is more than 1%, and low beta is usually classified as omega. I’d say in dating marketplace talked here, alpha bucks is 5-10%, and alpha fucks is 10-15% of the male population. These combined make the top 20% of men that can get sex without commitment and usually have power in relationships over women I’d say the next ~30% is beta bux or high betas. Not great looking or super interesting guys but have provider roles, contribute to society, marry women and have k…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 09:41 PM
2

A lot of text, not a lot of content Hate to break the news to you buddy but if you don’t see the relationship dynamics change in your 30s and you’re still thirsty for plenty 30 year old women then you likely are below average SMV male. No one is saying that women will never have a supply of dick to choose from as they age. Nursing home women still get hit on. It’s their relative power to men that changeS. As they hit 30 the baby fever kicks it and the clock is ticking, they look to settle down q…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 09:32 PM
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Women like this were sold the world growing up and will never be satisfied. You think if she decided to marry an accountant and have kids she’d be happy? Lol no - she would resent him for “holding her back” and not being able to sleep around more in her 20s and 30s. Her problem is internal. It’s what got her to this spot
/r/TheRedPill18/12/19 09:27 PM
1

Yes. So not 3x5 bloat lord crap
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 06:02 PM
2

If you’re attractive you have social value. People of social value have higher expectations to live a standard life, as well as being in bigger social circles Ugly people don’t have this and are more likely to turn to degeneracy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 05:52 PM
3

This is the real answer tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 05:51 PM
0

I don’t know what the fuck I just read but it sure as shit isn’t red pilled
/r/askTRP18/12/19 03:22 PM
1

Lol low T. That’s a strength program bud. It’ll make you look better than someone who doesn’t lift (90% of this sub) but you won’t be cut and getting butt doing 3x5
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 03:15 PM
2

I’d argue something like a college degree, healthy lifestyle, etc are universally accepted as positive value traits That said, quality like smv is relative. To some a college degree is quality. To others it needs to come from a prestigious school.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 03:14 PM
1

Sure, but chest also adds to the illusion of a large torso small waist
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:06 PM
1

Who said anything about waist? Big chest, broad shoulders, small waist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:05 PM
1

Alpha and beta is relative. If you’re in an isolated community then sure, the women can go around thinking her guy is high value. Ex: small town. Stay at home mom. Etc The more guys she meets though the greater the chance of her meeting a relative alpha to you and branch swinging
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:05 PM
7

SMV is subjective as well but there is still a market value. High quality is the same way Smoking lowers your overall value
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 01:01 PM
3

Yep on the last part. 100% I would not consider OPs girlfriend to be a high quality woman. Already displays a number of red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 12:59 PM
2

Of course not. You get them by providing other things like resources. Hence beta bux. This isn’t new lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 12:57 PM
2

Damn, good work son
/r/askTRP18/12/19 05:02 AM
2

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 11:29 PM
1

Must be a manlet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 11:28 PM
0

Lol so wrong. The V Taper is the super hero look, that is built from a chest
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 11:28 PM
2

Enjoy your strong lifts bloat lord
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 11:27 PM
0

Lol vice is proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:22 PM
6

Yep. It’s impossible to get too muscular naturally
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:21 PM
2

That will not create an aesthetic body
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:20 PM
0

Don’t take that shit advice. You want a big chest
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:16 PM
0

Lol what? Chest is V Taper dude
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 10:16 PM
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Breasts have always been overblown by media. Men don’t care for breasts, it ranks pretty low on overall attraction Being slim and face are MUCH more important. A flat girl can still be beautiful and 9+. A chubby or busted girl can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 09:03 PM
3

I love anger. You’ll never find a better motivational tool. Angry from a girl cheating on you? Channel it at the gym. Angry at how your boss treats you? Channel it on starting your own business. Angry at anyone doubting you? Mocking you? Channel it to prove them wrong It’s a good emotion to have. But as cliche as it sounds you need to control it or it will control you
/r/askTRP17/12/19 06:30 PM
2

High value man here, by any measure. Lol at justifying my existence to a FDS trash thot. Enjoy your ghetto memes and childish behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/19 06:24 PM
0

What a socially autistic question
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 11:00 PM
1

Stop me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 07:40 PM
2

Depends on what I’m wearing. DYEL in a sweater or button down, but if I’m wearing a shirt people have said I look like Superman lol
/r/askTRP16/12/19 07:40 PM
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Omegas don’t either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:22 PM
1

I know what you meant, and you’re still wrong. Take the same guy, give him a ceo job and he will go from unattractive to attractive. It’s not the traits, it’s the respect from others
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:19 PM
1

I agree with that. Though women will try that sabotage stuff with other women all the time. They work behind the scenes, men are overt
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 06:18 PM
1

Whatever incel
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 05:41 PM
1

Lol enjoy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:40 PM
1

Correct. It’s self delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:40 PM
1

Lol wrong. It’s the job. God the Hamstering women do to avoid admitting they want money and power is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:34 PM
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It’s a big issue. Every parent I know, and these are UMC parents as well, use iPads to entertain their kids in their formative years. Can’t blame them, easy to distract them with a glowing screen than spend time with them after a long day of work What’s sad is the pivot. Our parents knew too much gaming was bad and the argument was “quit playing video games and go outside” Now parents are so scared of the outside world that they are HAPPY their kids are playing video games all weekend because it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:28 PM
5

Your issues are more mental than physical at this stage
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:24 PM
0

Low smv emo trash party club? Yea, hating on it with everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:24 PM
0

Being a bachelor isn’t MGTOW Being a loser is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:19 PM
0

You can find a vice headline for any degenerate behavior Doesn’t happen
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:13 PM
1

Leonardo DiCaprio isn’t mgtow lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:13 PM
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That’s the dudes problem, took the juice You can’t reach unattractive to women with muscles unless you go that route
/r/askTRP16/12/19 04:12 PM
2

Yep that’s way too big. I’m 7 inches taller than that guy and 220 lean is as big as I want to get. Can’t imagine that at that height
/r/askTRP16/12/19 04:10 PM
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It’s not that we know too big isn’t a thing, it’s just a thing you will never have to worry about if you’re natural. 5’8 and 220 though is certainly “too big”. When women say they don’t like overly muscular guys they mean the dudes on the cover of body building magazines. I lift 5x a week, drink protein shakes every morning and night, but will never look close to one of those guys
/r/askTRP16/12/19 04:06 PM
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Jesus Christ 5’8 at that weight and bf% is MASSIVE I lift regularly, am 6’3 at 210 and 13% body fat and have women approach me all the time. Tbh at that level, and it’s damn near impossible to reach naturally, you are likely “too big”. Women bodybuilders may be into it but women are into a strong and athletic body. If you’re built like a boulder it can turn off many women
/r/askTRP16/12/19 04:05 PM
1

Lol do girls realize every guy friend they’ve ever had would sleep with them if given the opportunity? Do you realize that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 04:01 PM
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Yes there is a way to win. It’s called not to give a fuck about what others think and go for it when the opening is there early. That’s what high value men do. And no, women usually won’t care if you shoot your shot It’s only the online crowd that makes a fuss and they are low smv troll lookalikes anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:57 PM
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Men have PLENTY of deep friendships. Even nerd men have deep friendships with other low value men. In fact I’d say men’s friendships are much deeper with one another than women friendships That said most men don’t have friendships they can open up with and are starved for an emotional connection. There’s also the fact that women being friendly and their IOIs are often the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:56 PM
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Women don’t know what work men put into a body “Healthy” = lifts 4-5 times a week and diets “Ripped” = on human growth hormone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:46 PM
2

Yep. Lol at the guys here on a red pill debate thread hearing women say one thing and actually believing it. That’s how you get blue pilled in the first place. If you listened to women online you’d think: dad bods are attractive asking permission before a first kiss is cute women want equality in a relationship asking consent before sex is something you should do Etc. etc. Fact is women want muscles. Until you’ve been a guy and seen the difference in how you’re treated with and without muscles t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:42 PM
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Ask men and any other non red sub on reddit is full of beta cuck soy boys who’ve slept with at most 3 women their entire life Do NOT ask low smv men for dating advice. Reddit is full of low smv men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:29 PM
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Men don’t operate the same way as women. If we don’t want another man to interfere with our interests then we just don’t help them or tell them not to, we don’t intentionally give bad advice to sabotage. That has never even entered my head As for advice men will genuinely try to help. The difference is the success of the man who’s giving advice. Most men aren’t good with women so most men give terrible advice. But if you have a friend or relative who has success with women then that advice is go…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:26 PM
-1

That trend never happened
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:22 PM
4

MGTOW are bottom of the social hierarchy among males. Not alpha at all
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:20 PM
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Using the term NPC is pretty aspie in itself You’re right through - most alphas just “do” without overthinking their behavior, alphas really don’t care how they are received No one will say red pill is for alpha males though. It’s for turning betas into more of alphas, and in that context these discussions are helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 03:20 PM
1

Lol red pill 101 stuff mate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 01:58 PM
3

Depends on your social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 01:56 PM
3

Tattoos are a huge slut tell, and a good filter to see if a woman is LTR worthy Tattoos indicate a lot of things. Poor long term decision making, little regard for how you present yourself to others, and overall bad taste in style for starters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 01:55 PM
1

He absolutely is. He’s the fucking POTUS. A bunch of keyboard warriors who haven’t accomplished anything meaningful in their lives (myself included) calling him beta is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 03:16 AM
1

Another thing that you see in articles but in person would gross out most people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 03:14 AM
1

Heard something similar - go on a international trip with someone, if you still want to be with them throughout then they are worth keeping because you will have things go wrong 2am rule makes some sense but if someone is calling me then they better have a good reason. If it’s just to talk then it’s a red flag that they have commitment issues Seriously, if my phone rings at 2am then I’m expecting someone to be dead when I answer
/r/askTRP13/12/19 08:17 PM
15

Don’t hate the move tbh. Zigging when she expects you to zag. Listing out in details things she can work on makes you fall into her frame, probably makes her self defensive, and might not even improve those areas. A gesture like this, subtle and not over the top, can make major inroads That said the power from it comes in defying expectations, not the roses themselves. Getting flowers all the time will turn a woman off.
/r/askTRP13/12/19 08:00 PM
1

Currently? Yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 07:18 PM
2

Yep. Never bought a woman a drink at a bar without her buying me one first and getting laid ain’t a problem
/r/askTRP13/12/19 07:16 PM
2

If you are smart and know how to game yes. Smart alone turns no one on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 07:15 PM
1

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 04:35 AM
8

Someone who spends all their time in a cubicle
/r/askTRP13/12/19 04:08 AM
1

lol people who spend all day watching sports are NOT alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:56 AM
1

lol insecure much?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:54 AM
2

lmao women dont know what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:53 AM
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lol what you are saying in that first sentence is why the red pill exists. Yes, we agree - logically Betas ARE attractive. But sexual preference isn't logical. And none of those traits turn women on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:50 AM
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wouldnt use the word attractive lol. Betas = starfish duty sex in marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:48 AM
3

I know guys with attractive women as well who have no control of them and dont know they are getting fucked on the side. ​ No one is saying a beta cant marry or date attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:46 AM
2

You literally just described Alpha Fucks and Beta Bux lol ​ ​ so 'male delusion' is exact red pill philosophy. There are 4 types TRP mainly describes: ​ Alpha Fucks - The bad boy. You know you cant take him home to meet your parents or an office social, but he is the one you and your friends will talk about how hot he is. Can be the sexy yoga instructor, guy that owns a motorcycle and some blue collar job, the guy at the bar with the tattoo on his bicep that talks to you in a way your other guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:42 AM
2

Beta Bucks is a guy who wouldnt get sex from that woman without the promise of resources - it's that straightforward. ​ Beta Bux dont get one night stands, and when they date it's taken slow. Women fuck them for comfort. ​ Alpha Fucks can get the same pussy just by showing up and making her tingle
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:21 AM
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Just because someone makes money doesn't make them a beta lol ​ Beta Bux basically ignored pursuing taking major chances or following their dreams. They patiently studied throughout college and were the wallflowers at parties knowing their day would come. They got a good paying job (doesnt have to be big money, just enough to provide for her) and provide that stability. ​ The AVERAGE male in society is a Beta Bux. Look around your office and guarantee 90% of the men fit this description. Cubicle…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/19 03:18 AM
6

Yep lol got a masters with concentration in finance and it’s some alpha dogs but a TON of try hard betas. Nothing alpha about working in excel for 80 hours a day
/r/askTRP13/12/19 03:06 AM
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Haha found the cubecel cuck. It’s about financial freedom, not income. Most of the biggest betas I know are high income earners trying to offset some other Deficiency
/r/askTRP13/12/19 03:04 AM
13

I would extend that and say rationalizing any bad decision. “I’ll start that diet next month” “I’ll go to the gym tomorrow” etc etc
/r/askTRP13/12/19 03:01 AM
6

Can identify with a lot of these. Bought into the “girls are into different types of guys” hook line and sinker. Wasn’t until I started lifting that had to beat women off me
/r/askTRP13/12/19 03:00 AM
19

Apologizing for everything and self depreciating jokes are big ones
/r/askTRP13/12/19 02:55 AM
72

Yep. Everything is an act. As I became the guy that fucked these women I experienced it first hand. That feminist that can’t shut up about equality and how she’d never have sex with a republican? She wants to be dominated and told to fuck off more than anyone The religious girl next door who says she’s slept with only 2-3 guys her entire life? Into some bondage shit The girl who says she cares about personality? Just wait until she sees your muscles
/r/TheRedPill12/12/19 10:51 PM
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Seeing your sweet nerdy innocent Christian crush date the school bully who was also a jock is one hell of a red pill - recommend it to everyone
/r/TheRedPill12/12/19 10:00 PM
1

If you’re a guy I’d move to the south East - Nashville, Atlanta, etc. There you have a ton of bombshell types and guys that are absolute shmucks. Seriously, a double chin can get you a model tier girl. Granted - you must have conservative values ie be the breadwinner (doesn’t mean rich) and “Christian” values time score LTRs in this market But if you go there and are decent looking you can get women that wouldn’t be near your league in a place like NYC or LA
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 07:38 PM
1

Yep. And on the inverse I was in business school with a concentration of finance where there was a ton of men and few women. Even an average girl could get a 8/10+ guy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 07:36 PM
3

High value guys won’t date a girl for 3 months and no sex They will date her will fucking other women on the side (been there) or just end things and laugh at their outdated standards (also been there)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 07:19 PM
5

Yep. If any of those guys have slept with more than 5 women in my life then I’d eat my hat
/r/askTRP12/12/19 05:39 PM
8

You have to understand that the average redditor is a complete phaggot who has had sex with 2-3 women in their life, can’t bench a single plate, and live around a clock of when the next marvel movie is coming out What people think about you online is meaningless. I’d never let any friends family women in real life know i post here, but literally all you need to know is the average redditor is a loser with a capital fucking L. Don’t sweat their opinions
/r/askTRP12/12/19 05:35 PM
2

Beautiful quote
/r/askTRP12/12/19 02:43 PM
0

Downvote me to hell but my bro split hasn’t failed me
/r/askTRP12/12/19 02:28 PM
2

Approach? Or blatant IOI? Approach probably last time I went out to bars (three weeks ago). IOI? Work random girls will chat me up and invite me out from time to time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:26 PM
1

Most men know it’s BS but do it for a pat on the head from their corporate overlords are to look like their organization is doing something The other men are either legitimate cucks who actually buy into the oppression BS or outcasts who just put their heads down, work, and likely don’t get promoted
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:23 PM
1

Timing sometimes ain’t right
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:17 PM
1

Davidson is ugly as sin despite his height
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:16 PM
1

I’m sure they do in this selfish generation. Wouldn’t wish being an only child on someone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 02:12 PM
1

If you want women you’ll have to beat out the average Joe
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/19 12:05 AM
1

In terms of fitness The average man is skinny fat, who might go on a jog or a pickup basketball game once a week and do the occasional 5k. He doesn’t live on Big Macs but he also doesn’t calorie count. Might try diets now and then but won’t stick with them. In terms of hygiene he showers daily, brushes his teeth, all that but might have a peasant beard or dumb haircut In terms of clothes he doesn’t know going out attire comparing to on the couch attire. Likely wears a graphic T or some poorly fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:48 PM
2

They are all below average in looks, driver maybe a 6. But none are good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:41 PM
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Which is true, but again just exposes how full of shit he is The term this bro is looking for is “investment banker” rofl And no, even at 24 the majority of them aren’t making that much money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:28 PM
3

Women don’t date down. Noticed this in college as part of the Greek system. Fellow frat bro’s had no issue dating GDIs. Sorority girls would only date their equivalent fraternity or better (not even worse frats)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:22 PM
6

Career women also aren’t LTR material for other reasons - generally being career focused. That means no kids or less kids, and them moving for work. Have dated several women that moved to other cities for their career
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:08 PM
5

Haha I know you’re full of shit just from your post Having went to an elite school and grad school myself and worked in prestige areas of finance, consulting, etc along with knowing plenty of people in law and medicine it’s pretty evident you have no idea what you’re talking about and are projecting very hard core Still laughing at someone thinking being a stock broker is a lucrative career. Go back to getting your reality from movies kid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:02 PM
5

People that age making six figures are few and far between. And lol at you thinking stock brokers (low income job), lawyers (low paying job on average), or doctors (residency at that age) are making anywhere close to that much money by mid 20s You should feel very good about yourself if you hit six figs in your twenty. Acting like it’s remotely normal is comical. Yea sure in some tech circles, but it’s still uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 10:33 PM
2

Huh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 10:11 PM
3

Fair enough. Enjoy keeping up with the joneses
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:52 PM
3

Women want men to make their lives better and more exciting. Men want women to make their lives more comforting and easier. A woman that seems expensive to me is a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:39 PM
5

No. Just no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:19 PM
2

What state? Washington or Cal?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:19 PM
3

Guy revealed himself to be full of shit by bringing up law and stock brokers as making more money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:12 PM
12

Lol wrong. That salary at that age 100% is amazing, that’s literally top 1-2% of income earners for that age
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:12 PM
9

Use context clues. 24, making six figures, tech, of course she isn’t a single mother lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:11 PM
3

Yep. Just decreases their dating pool
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:10 PM
2

Yep that last quote to me means either OP works a ton and this guy prefers more leisure, or she has a high standard of living to go with her income
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:10 PM
4

I go back and fourth on this tbh. Are men intimidated by successful women, or do women want men that make more money than them? I’ve seen career hypergamy from women up close before, and women prefer to be dominated in most aspects (physically, in bedroom, with planning, etc) that career is a natural transition So hard to tell. As a guy I wouldn’t care about how much she made - but I WOULD care about if she viewed me as less for making less
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 09:08 PM
9

Yep. Don’t try to win on the career plane. You never will and it’ll eat you alive when you meet others that make more money or have a better sounding job. Win on the physical front and interesting front. If you do interesting things, have a good body, then career doesn’t matter as long as it’s not terrible
/r/askTRP11/12/19 08:49 PM
3

I’d rather be 6’2 tbh. Anything else you’re gangly unless you have a lot of weight on you. Will not deny that tall + athletic is lethal to women, even with a meh face. But height alone isn’t worth a damn if you’re not well groomed or fit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:41 PM
1

Partially true. How you conduct yourself, education, and career, can change the social circle of those guys and let you filter out for the better hard dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:24 PM
1

This is never new. After a few years you should not be coming back to the red pill asking questions. Is catch and release, with the purpose being “unplugging” others.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:19 PM
1

TRP is locker room talk. Anyone there that’s internalized the pill is likely successful with women in real life and wouldn’t be obviously misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:18 PM
11

Sounds like your plates are locking onto their beta provider, good for you for avoiding FYI any guy that I know who did a career for prestige or women are miserable blokes whose wives spend their paycheck on frivolous shit and work so many hours it’s impossible to maintain frame because of exhaustion or getting a cubicle body. Not impossible to avoid, but happens. To me if you sound passionate about your work, latch on the interesting parts, then you’ll be ok. Women will hear “oooh real estate” …
/r/askTRP11/12/19 07:06 PM
1

How does one balance bulking with shitting and farting non stop lol
/r/askTRP11/12/19 07:02 PM
1

Men are as deluded as ever. If you dress decently well and work out 4x a week congrats you’re top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:01 PM
1

That’s not dating down. That’s dating their SMV equivalent. A woman who is ugly with a PhD and six figure incomes dating equivalent isn’t the same as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:01 PM
1

Church and religion is another blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 07:00 PM
5

That lie and also “there’s someone out there for everyone” lie, or the lie that women have different tastes in men. They really dont
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:59 PM
8

This is how I felt when I was blue pilled in high school. Did I notice the jocks getting girls? Duh. But I didn’t even WANT those girls, I just wanted one that was similar to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:58 PM
4

Yep. Men are blunt and don’t read into things. Women read into everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:57 PM
4

Nail on head. Women genuinely don’t have any idea what they are attracted to, so when men listen to them they will get terrible information. For example many women here will say Ed Sheeran am is attractive. Or Pete Davidson. Or Adam Driver. No, they aren’t. None of them are above a 6, Ed is close to a 4.5. They are attracted by the Status, characters they play, or the social proof (he dated Ariana Grande?? He must be interesting!) But if you’re an average bloke who looks like one of the above th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:54 PM
2

Lol you’re basically asking men why would they be dumb enough to listen to women. As a red piller I know myself and others like me lacked a masculine presence (active father, involved big brother, coach, etc) to look up to and guide us on these issues, and when you’re a kid you’re very impressionable. When BOTH your mom AND media AND other girls you talk to tell you one thing what else will you believe? Television and kids shows were very red pilled decades ago. For some reason in the 90s and 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:48 PM
2

Red pill knows relationships are generally doomed to fail and that it involves concessions which aren’t worth making
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:41 PM
2

This is so untrue lmao Will agree that men will put women down with those terms. But that’s more male showboating, almost every guy I know who has used terms like that is married to or dated a uggo. They just like to use things like butter face to feel cool with the guys That said, average women have social value. Average men don’t. example look at a GDI in college - women can get into any party. Men masturbate at home alone. In high school average women still get dates. Average guys really don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:38 PM
4

6’3 But height isn’t everything. First kiss was in college, and didn’t have success with women until my mid 20s when I got my shit together
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 06:33 PM
9

If you come here never having heard of the red pill then I will help If you come here after 8 years of being “red pilled” then I will laugh
/r/askTRP11/12/19 06:32 PM
2

A lot of exercise and diet my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 03:47 PM
6

More like what’s her idea of “beautiful”. Women all think their friends are beautiful even when fat or plain looking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:34 PM
1

Key word bank account
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:34 PM
3

I view it even simpler. Women can not have attraction for you but based on personality (ie status and income) can gain that attraction My rank goes: 0: she wouldn’t find you sexually attractive even if you’re A CEO or POTUS 1: not noticeable to her but can become attractive based on personality 2: attracted and would sleep with you regardless of your income level, status, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:33 PM
7

I always say here that dating apps are the best way to tell your SMV if you’re a guy. Now I don’t know if I’m an 8 or a 9 (probably closer to low 8 or high 7) but I know I’m top 10% or so in looks. Dating app experience is matching with 95% of the women I swipe right on, and I’m very picky myself with who I select. Almost all are fit and successful (minimum college degree and job) Usually at my office job will have a new girl try to take a pass at me every 1-2 months even though I do little in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 02:29 PM
34

Spot on. Can’t imagine being 8 years into the red pill and even asking basic questions like this. Guy just sounds like he read everything but internalized nothing “Maximized smv” Already how I know this guy is full of shit
/r/askTRP11/12/19 02:25 PM
6

If you’re a 8 or 9 guy you don’t have to wait until end of the night
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 04:51 AM
0

Who the hell is ‘we’. You don’t? Great. People here certainly do. People on the red pill certainly do.
/r/askTRP11/12/19 02:58 AM
0

When the point of your analysis of women is in contrast to that of men then yes, male behavior is important
/r/askTRP11/12/19 02:02 AM
1

Me too isn’t an issue if you’re not socially autistic
/r/askTRP11/12/19 01:30 AM
70

I’m a “Chad” by any standard here and no we don’t hook up with ugly women but the belief that a 8 or 9/10 guy will sleep with a 6/10 woman is 100% true Meanwhile a 6/10 guy would never get a 9/10 woman without some help from the bank account
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:28 AM
0

Just another side of red pill theory bro. Spend some time on the main sub and you’ll see it If you only use it in the context of women without reflecting on yourself then you’re doing yourself a great disservice
/r/askTRP11/12/19 01:26 AM
2

Women get off on the idea of cheating because they love the emotional thrill ride. A good husband will not provide those emotional peaks and valleys that women crave
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:23 AM
1

K
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 01:22 AM
2

What are you even talking about bro
/r/askTRP11/12/19 01:21 AM
1

Fortunately am very photogenic. Think I look better in most pics than real life
/r/askTRP10/12/19 09:25 PM
7

Yep agree 100% Women rationalize things to themselves more. Men more likely to feel guilt
/r/askTRP10/12/19 09:18 PM
13

Bet he fucks mad pussy
/r/askTRP10/12/19 06:32 PM
4

Far less are than people online would have you believe
/r/askTRP10/12/19 06:22 PM
18

Cope. Show me a shredded guy with style who’s ugly. Doesnt exist
/r/askTRP10/12/19 05:49 PM
-1

Lol I get hit on by attractive women nearly every time I go out, have never cheated
/r/askTRP10/12/19 05:48 PM
33

Will call out things I disagree with since it’s easier to mention the many things I do. Hope this doesn’t sound like over defense of women because that is not the case, but there are times red pill is hypocritical: AWALT & Hypergamy - these are true, but the problem is limiting this to just women. Men are very much AMALT, just in different ways. Similarly, men are “hypergamous”. Not in status or money like women are, but for sure with looks. Starter wives is a term for a reason and it’s very com…
/r/askTRP10/12/19 05:46 PM
1

I never plan on staying at a company more than 3-4 years so I never go to this shit But if you want to climb, go and shmooze
/r/askTRP09/12/19 12:48 AM
1

Only unrealistic if you can’t get those women brother Will say when you reach a certain level it takes a lot for a woman to impress you. So much so to the point that those women hardly exist Keep climbing
/r/askTRP09/12/19 12:42 AM
1

Beta bux game is different. If you’re beta bux aka the pudgy accountant then will she cheat on you with another pudgy guy who makes more? Doubtful. She may leave you for this person though. It secures more resources on her end
/r/askTRP07/12/19 04:14 PM
2

lol at anyone here saying it doesn’t work, is pseudo science, placebo, etc Not jerking it for several days in a row clearly makes you hornier
/r/askTRP07/12/19 03:24 PM
0

No fap works. That said - the problem isn’t that you shouldn’t jack off ever, that will lead to terrible decision making. But if you’re jacking off daily or more then that’s an issue
/r/askTRP07/12/19 03:23 PM
2

Being red pilled doesn’t mean you spin plates, you’re an alpha, you have success dating,etc. All it means is you’ve internalized how dating/sex marketplace and the nature of women/people really are Once you have this information you can do whatever you want with it. Red Pill obviously endorsed a certain subset of behaviors to maximize this return for you - but that doesn’t mean you can’t use red pill knowledge in dating or marriage If you want kids then yes marriage is the best option (some disa…
/r/askTRP06/12/19 04:24 PM
1

Lmao at getting so triggered over fucking a hooker. Just when you couldn’t be more pathetic
/r/askTRP06/12/19 04:20 AM
12

No, fortunately didn’t listen to terrible advice like this
/r/askTRP06/12/19 01:06 AM
4

Disagree on 2. Bring her flowers on the next date. Hold the doors open for her. Hell, write her a poem even. And make sure you ask her permission for a kiss because women don’t like pressure for sex and taking it slow is the gentlemanly thing to do - and women love gentlemen Then when she ghosts you immediately after the red pill will be crammed so far down your throat you’ll know not to emotionally compromise yourself on a skank whore that’s likely going to sleep with 3 other dudes this month e…
/r/askTRP06/12/19 12:11 AM
1

Lol group dates. Sack up and 1 on 1. Not a college shit dive bar either, a place where you can control the situation like a cocktail bar No food
/r/askTRP05/12/19 11:45 PM
18

Shit advice. The “I had to sleep with a hooker” cloud is far worse and more pathetic than the “virgin” cloud
/r/askTRP05/12/19 11:44 PM
1

The average person on that sub is no more a man than my crippled grandmother. Live by the soy die by the soy
/r/askTRP05/12/19 04:23 PM
7

No woman will ever say “casual sex with you” to that answer It’s tinder. If she’s looking for a relationship there are other apps. If she’s on tinder she’s looking to whore around
/r/askTRP05/12/19 12:14 PM
7

Avoid ghetto trash
/r/askTRP05/12/19 12:08 PM
7

If you’re worried about exposing you are a sperg The amount of people, let alone women, aware of red pillers is miniscule. Vast vast vast majority of women aren’t in reddit, those that are don’t post, those that post don’t post here. If you’re doing everything correctly no one should have any idea you’re red pilled except maybe other red pillers
/r/askTRP04/12/19 11:14 PM
1

Chapelles most recent stand up was masterful on push pull with humor
/r/askTRP04/12/19 07:02 PM
2

It’s a fine line for sure. There’s being funny, and there’s being the clown. The clown has social equity, but girls almost never want to sleep with the clown. A lot of red pillers might struggle with this too. Being funny/a clown is one of the quickest ways to become popular and gain a social standing when growing up even if you’re short/fat/ugly/poor/whatever. That can’t be said for other people at the top of the ladder who got there via looks, athleticism, strength, money. So when you do work …
/r/askTRP04/12/19 07:01 PM
2

Yep. If someone is complaining here about girls not being able to talk then it’s clear they are low value or can’t converse themselves. On a case to case basis some chicks are like that. But get a woman going and she can’t shut up. I have been on over a hundred dating app dates and have only ran into an issue of a girl being stick in mud with talking maybe 2-3 times
/r/askTRP04/12/19 03:50 PM
60

good stuff. Lesson on how to stand out in personal life, business, whatever: zig when others zag Cold approaching has been demonized so much that good boy betas think it makes them creepy. But when has a woman ever known what she wants from a man? It’s a good way to stand out and make her think you have balls. Women don’t want the nice guy. They want the conquerer who happens to treat them (occasionally) well. As to one of the later points that women don’t understand the dating marketplace it’s …
/r/TheRedPill04/12/19 03:40 PM
0

I’m the same height you are, a little more weight. Curious what your lifts are
/r/askTRP04/12/19 02:20 PM
14

This is stupid. You are stupid.
/r/askTRP04/12/19 02:20 PM
3

Exactly
/r/askTRP03/12/19 03:40 AM
11

Height has depreciating returns after 6’2 dude and anything above 6’4 often enters circus freak status - not attractive UNLESS the guy has a stellar frame, which is very rare for people that size The former rower almost surely does. But make no mistake most look like a lurch
/r/askTRP03/12/19 02:01 AM
0

And you just fail
/r/askTRP02/12/19 10:13 PM
1

So what? Never said that was the case. Red pill still applies. And it applies with relationships too. A woman isn’t going to end a 2+ year relationship to branch swing unless the newer guys increased value is worth the social cost of that branch swing
/r/askTRP02/12/19 07:31 PM
13

Being red pilled is just being aware of the world around you when it comes to sex and dating dynamics (in this instance). Being aware doesn’t mean winning by any stretch. Red pill used to motivate behavior change. Sadly in the last few years men take the red pill and decide to do nothing with it (MGTOW) or evening worse think it’s a lie (black pill). Those men are the type to never have accountability and love to make excuses If you really want to make a difference then the next step after takin…
/r/TheRedPill02/12/19 06:06 PM
20

Congrats on finding RP in high school. You’re a lucky man. And high school / early college is the land of oneitis - no shame , good to be self aware you have it Right now you just need experience. Experience dating, fucking, and getting your heart broken. Go after it for sure knowing damn well that this story doesn’t have a happily ever after ending. It will hurt but you will learn from it next time you get oneitis
/r/askTRP02/12/19 06:02 PM
6

You know how every girl you fuck on the first date or have a ONS with says “I never do this” or “I’m not this type of girl usually” It’s like that.
/r/askTRP02/12/19 05:59 PM
1

I did. In my example. The one you refuted.
/r/askTRP02/12/19 05:58 PM
-2

Lol no. Chad has a certain personality type and swagger
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:44 PM
0

The perfect embodiment of who Chad is is Robert Gronkowski
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:44 PM
3

Guarantee you are missing numerous other slut tells with this woman. Thin hair? Lol Jesus.
/r/askTRP02/12/19 05:38 PM
0

Yes that’s true. And they are also experts at smelling the bullshit other girls are giving. If a girl leaves her husband and kids for a different guy she will hurt her social value Now, that happens all the time. But it ain’t happening unless there’s a massive difference in male value
/r/askTRP02/12/19 05:32 PM
-1

Lol comically wrong
/r/askTRP02/12/19 05:14 PM
4

Gun crimes. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 05:12 PM
3

This is the best reply in this thread A guy can’t be similar or slightly better but usually outright better. And like you said - must be a real opportunity
/r/askTRP02/12/19 05:12 PM
0

People always think hypergamy means she meets a better guy and it’s over. This isn’t the case, especially in an LTR The real equation goes: New guys SMV > your SMV + social costs of monkey branching Last part is hard to quantify. But if you’re dating someone for years and she meets a guy a little taller, a little better looking, etc then she likely won’t leave you for him assuming you’re owning your shit well. If you’ve been dating her for a month or a few months then yea the margin is smaller. …
/r/askTRP02/12/19 05:03 PM
0

Lol pussy
/r/askTRP02/12/19 04:26 PM
36

Yep. Hypergamy is a bitch but something every man needs to see and experience up close
/r/askTRP02/12/19 04:18 PM
112

Here’s the thing mate. You can do everything perfectly. Lift, focus on yourself, have a good career, maintain frame, etc but hypergamy is hypergamy and it will mean nothing if she meets a significantly better option In that case there is nothing you can do BUT prize yourself and realize if she moves on then fuck that bitch you’ll be better off. As others said use this as motivation to continue building yourself and don’t appear jealous in any way as this will just add gasoline to any spark. Some…
/r/askTRP02/12/19 04:11 PM
0

Long term* relationship
/r/askTRP02/12/19 01:03 PM
7

Break things off face to face like a normal human being
/r/askTRP02/12/19 04:49 AM
2

Like your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:31 AM
1

Do yourself a favor and do research on how to construct an argument. Once you take the time to do that reread this entire conversation and then get back to me on what you have learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 04:31 AM
4

OP is very clearly a pussy from his post
/r/askTRP02/12/19 04:30 AM
5

"got the balls"? Dude lol the amount of sheer hamstering here is astounding. Soft nexting someone you're in an LTR with is a puss move. Acting like everything is fine when it's note is a puss move. 3 years is definitely long enough for you to be having these conversations. Your reaction? You guessed it - Puss. Move. ​ ​ Not Red Pilled in the least.
/r/askTRP02/12/19 04:29 AM
2

No shame. Just honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 03:53 PM
6

Eh when you start lifting men give you more respect too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:44 PM
4

Just noticing how women flirt with you is pretty fun. Receiving stares, IOIs, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:40 PM
1

I’d recommend you take a logical argument course because lmao It’s clear you have no idea what you are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 01:38 PM
5

As red pill preaches: women have a lower ceiling than men - but a much higher floor. Society only gives a damn about fixing one of those issues
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:52 AM
1

Outlier? Lol no he isn’t. Red pill doesn’t mean alpha and blue pill isn’t beta. There are so many blue pilled high smv guys out there. It’s more normal than finding one red pilled
/r/askTRP01/12/19 04:24 AM
9

Don’t think his issue is competition. It’s first fuck syndrome
/r/askTRP01/12/19 04:20 AM
1

Girl hit a jackpot. Sunk her teeth into a high value guy early on when their value was likely more similar. He has never had the alpha lifestyle so he doesn’t know how to be one. You can be good looking, muscular, whatever, if you’ve only dated one girl your entire life you’ll still be a beta in that relationship
/r/askTRP01/12/19 04:20 AM
1

She has other options she’s more interested in, likely holding onto you as backup
/r/askTRP01/12/19 04:01 AM
0

Went to an ivy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 02:49 AM
2

If you’re truly MGTOW you wouldn’t be here right now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 02:48 AM
1

Alpha is relative. I’m an alpha in many aspects. If a bigger one came along then she could easily cheat on me for him. I’ve seen this play out first hand. Dated girl at work who left me for a guy with a better job title in same company. She then left him for a guy with an even better job title It’s relative
/r/askTRP01/12/19 01:24 AM
6

Depends. Red pilled men aren’t victims. The ones that took the bill and went MGTOW or black pill are the pathetic ones though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 10:18 PM
0

What you said has nothing to do with my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 10:16 PM
14

You don’t need to spend long in today’s climate to understand there is social power in victimhood. Claiming being a victim and blaming others is easier to do than pulling yourself up and taking accountability Doesn’t matter your race, gender, religion, economic status. You aren’t happy with yourself then you can be the biggest agent of change in your life. Yeah life isn’t fair - but fucking deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:13 PM
1

They aren’t. Women say they are but again it’s bullshit
/r/askTRP30/11/19 05:08 PM
3

Yes. All the time. I have friends like this, most idiots. It’s called thinking with your dick over your brain
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:02 PM
1

Yep. Can’t reason or bargain attraction. You know it when you see it. And for women that’s a man dominating them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:01 PM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:56 PM
0

Average men realize this and accept the trade off. Below average men bitch and moan and jack off that night
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 11:02 PM
2

I do agree that a lot of people place emphasis on job and money while neglecting what makes them attractive - ie beta bux game. I have friends that make more than I do but get steamrolled by their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:57 PM
2

Probably just fugly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:50 PM
1

Don’t need money for any of those
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:32 PM
1

And?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:32 PM
5

Climbing, kayaking, surfing, any money making side hustle like photography, bilingual, etc really anything that keeps you active physically or mentally , especially if you have an audience
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 10:13 PM
2

It’s not about conventional attractiveness. Attraction is relative. I’m an 8, OPs girlfriend is probably unattractive to me. If I dated her I’d have the power in the relationship. Doesn’t mean she is unattractive, and in a relationship with OP maybe she has the power
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:59 PM
0

Men want to be loved by women like they were loved by their mother. Women only love men like they love their father. Need someone they respect and to guide them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:58 PM
0

Nothing will reveal yourself quicker as being a low value man on reddit than asking “why don’t women approach more!”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:52 PM
5

To have power as a man you need an X factor. There are X factor jobs like fighter pilot, doctor, whatever. Any other standard career won’t be held against you but not a panty dropper. Being fit or tall or having cool hobbies is an X factor though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 09:51 PM
7

Yep. Any PUA who articulates what he does and why will sound like a major creep. Women will think he is disgusting - when in reality it’s just a mirror of what works on them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 06:01 PM
3

You only convinced yourself you like them because your smv isn’t high enough to get buff guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 03:22 PM
6

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/19 06:58 AM
5

Men control the world. Women control men. That’s how it’s been for years
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 11:27 PM
1

Wrong. Very very few women can get commitment from a Prince Charming tier men. They can generally get attention from them though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 11:25 PM
1

A kind man, but not one who can get women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 11:24 PM
41

Lol men are much more honest about their sexual desires
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 10:04 PM
5

Friend zoning is the exact same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:51 PM
42

Yep. Women care much more about social perception than men. If they act aloof and innocent they can signal value to both men and women - and often they don’t even realize they are engaging in this behavior. Also why they will never admit to liking buff guys and not giving a shit about personality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 09:47 PM
4

Alpha at its most basic definition is leader of the pack. Men look up to you and follow you, women by default do this as well. What you are describing is just someone being studious. Yes, there is alpha in not caring what others think but I’ve seen Betas and even Omegas do the exact same thing in the classroom. If your peers don’t look for you to be a guide on what they CARE about then you won’t be an alpha in that situation. In this classroom it sounds like many are indifferent, so no - no one …
/r/askTRP28/11/19 05:24 PM
1

It’s a by product of the red pill / manosphere movement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 05:04 PM
3

Depends on the region
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:16 PM
1

Yes, if she’s out of the blue with the intent to get to know you better for sexual / romantic purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 10:33 PM
7

I’d say 5-10%. Maybe closer to 5. It only happens to guys that are tall, have an above average face, and are physically fit for most part
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 10:05 PM
1

Am a good looking guy and can confirm this happens - though rarely go out alone. However most (not all) times I go to a bar I’ll have women approach me. Either their friends come up say “she thinks your hot”, they approach themselves, and on one occasion a girl literally walked up to me and started making out without any prior conversation - again that part isn’t normal haha but experienced it. If not for that then you for sure will get IOIs. Basically girls staring, staring and giggling/talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 09:58 PM
1

Kind of.... “normal” as in average guys don’t get shit tested at all, they get shit on. If you’re receiving shit tests it’s a good sign - she thinks you’re alpha and is trying to confirm. This happens to chads as well. If you aren’t getting shit tests then she already views you as a beta or omega. The exception is if there is a big SMV gap between the two parties. A hot bar hopper will shit test a hot bar guy. She won’t shit test Brad Pitt or Tom Brady. She also won’t shit test joe redditor
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:21 PM
30

Yep this exactly. Crazy feminist? If she’s hot she won’t have a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 07:19 PM
15

5’6 and 180 is fat as fuck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 12:53 AM
2

Not even remotely true. Women can get there through diet or simple cardio exercise. You have no idea how much harder it is for men to pack on muscle lnao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 12:52 AM
1

Not only that but being fit for a woman is incredibly easy compared to the equivalent for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 12:51 AM
1

Lol believe it or not being tall is not a one defining trait between fortune and famine
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 07:32 PM
1

Cope. I’m tall and attractive because the work I put it. I know what it’s like to be an ugly loser. Never had a date to a dance in high school, didn’t have a girlfriend until my 20s, first kiss was with a drunk fat whale at a party in college. Fitness, diet, style, confidence, interests, ambition, etc all go into it. If you’re a 5’6 midget you have my sympathy. Anything else you don’t have excuses
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 06:04 PM
1

Gain social skills. Everyone flirts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:45 PM
2

Ugly men aren’t losers. Ugly men that think women not approaching is why they aren’t getting interest are losers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 05:45 PM
9

You will maximize the body component of smv with only 3-4 gym trips a week and on point diet. Anything else is for yourself, which is fair. Problem is red pill harps on lifting so much that people assume bigger = better. This is true when you start, not when you reach your limit
/r/askTRP26/11/19 05:37 PM
9

You’re a fucking unit
/r/askTRP26/11/19 05:33 PM
1

There’s definitely such thing as being a gymcel. I frequent bodybuilding.com forums as well and plenty of guys are shredded and fail with women. As a man you want to be well rounded - and lifting like anything else has its depreciating returns. Once you reach your “natural limit” after a few years then any additional gains without steroids will be very slow and unrecognizable to others. Similarly, a woman won’t change her attraction to you if you go from 7 to 10 percent body fat. I’m not saying …
/r/askTRP26/11/19 05:31 PM
2

Oh, so trailer trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 01:24 PM
2

Coming from a guy I 100% guarantee women have never flirted with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 01:09 PM
4

Agree 100%. It’s not hard to find interested women when out. The crowd that says “women need to approach more!” Are generally internet losers who wouldn’t be approached anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 01:07 PM
4

Yep. Nothing on improve yourself. Just more female excuse making. More female version of mgtow than red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 08:19 PM
9

100% yes. Also to note - alpha widows generally can’t be created in relationships. Only short term flings/summer love type situations. Why? Because at the end of the day even the best men are still human - and for her to be alpha widowed she has to fall in love with the idealized version of you in her head that does crazy shit, is hard to lock down, and takes risks. You can’t be this guy forever once in a relationship. She will eventually see the version of you who wants to watch Netflix on a Fr…
/r/TheRedPill25/11/19 08:06 PM
9

Damn right. What’s sad is we have a generation of women who idolize hedonism from people such as Lizzo If you can find role models/mentors who are actually worthy of that position - and not just people who placate your poor decision making - then you’re already at a head start
/r/TheRedPill25/11/19 07:53 PM
13

Part of being a man is to realize no one gives a shit about your problems, and you’re only hurting yourself by trying to complain about them because it reveals yourself (sometimes correctly, sometimes incorrectly) to be weak. Life is about perception. MRAs and feminists are both pathetic for that reason. You have ample opportunity but still look for reasons to be slighted
/r/TheRedPill25/11/19 07:51 PM
8

Lol I’ve been a RP contributor for years. Plenty of gay members, and I’ve not seen any outright homophobia
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 04:01 PM
5

Yea once I hit 15%+ I notice my face rounding out, losing definition, etc 10-12% body fat and being able to bench 225 is Far more attractive than 22% being able to bench 300.
/r/askTRP24/11/19 05:04 PM
1

I’m 6’3 currently and at ~208. Long term goal is to get to 220 at around 10-12% body fat. You’re definitely a stick at that height until you get to around 190. If I were you I’d aim for 210 with 15% body fat or less. Will take a while - making gains when you’re tall is tough
/r/askTRP24/11/19 05:02 PM
1

Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 12:01 PM
2

Class can be faked short term - harder over long term. And if she wants an Alpha Bucks those guys have been with enough women to know fake from real That said she absolutely can snag a high tier Beta Bux with that behavior and for almost zero skill set leap huge in economic standing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:22 PM
1

Lol what? That’s your issue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 02:27 PM
2

By and large yes - but within looks there is also ‘hot’ (sexier, higher smv) and ‘beautiful’ (what men consider wife material, classier). The red pill trope that “looks is all that matters to guys, I don’t care if she’s a doctor or a McDonald’s cashier” is false to high value men. We want a woman we can still converse with, show off to family, and all that. So intelligence and class/how she conducts herself matter as well as personality What usually doesn’t matter are things like income, her soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 02:25 PM
1

This exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:24 AM
2

Mental load lmao. It’s self inflicted. Just like with drama women hate hate hate comfort. If the house is fine they’ll find something to do even if it’s pointless. If relationships are fine they’ll need to inject drama to entertain them. Men care about what actually matters. Women don’t carry an extra mental load outside of stuff they add themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:23 AM
3

Never too late my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 05:08 AM
1

Lol well I’m tall with a solid face too. Fame helps but isn’t a requirement at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 10:55 PM
1

Not true at all. Pierce Brosnan or Joe Rogan have masculine faces and age well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 10:09 PM
4

Yep. Pretty boys rely on smooth skin and youth. Rugged face ages fine especially if hair keeps up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 10:06 PM
1

Lmao aging HELPS masculine men. And when I say masculine I don’t mean smokes cigarettes, drinks beer, etc but instead has a rougher face/strong brow/etc and not a “pretty boy” Masculine face is someone like pierce brosnan. If you take care of yourself you’ll avoid issues of aging until like your 60s. Pretty boys are the ones who aging kills by their late 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 10:05 PM
4

Yep. Anyone denying this is deluding themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 09:59 PM
2

Women are valued for what they look like, men for what they achieve No one says life is fair , but that’s how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 09:59 PM
1

Straw man strawman strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 09:05 PM
2

Genetics are only part though. Like I said earlier I didn’t have a girlfriend or date or anything until late in college. Never was good with women growing up. Yes I was tall but did zero in terms of fitness and style. That builds a body a lot more than people give credit for
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 09:05 PM
1

Probably a 2. If you get approached on any regular cadence at all you’re likely a 2, even if it’s once every 2 months or if it’s by girls that are average to slightly below
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 09:04 PM
2

A lot of it is how to sell yourself mate. Most men do terrible on apps for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:44 PM
1

Not super models or anything just people who appeared in ads lol And trust me I ain’t a 9 or 10. Face is above average, just happen to also be tall and fit. But again not even the biggest guy at the gym and don’t have a veiny six pack or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:43 PM
1

Aaaaaand now you’re changing the subject. Lol pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:42 PM
2

Yep. Will say that most beards look like shit because most men just let it grow wild. If you groom it around the cheeks and neck then it will enhance your appearance and subconsciously make you look more masculine
/r/TheRedPill22/11/19 06:36 PM
10

Beards are more masculine and can square your face better
/r/TheRedPill22/11/19 06:34 PM
2

Some notes too: Facial hair and beards are in. Most look like shit. Trim that around your neck and just as important your cheeks so it makes your face appear more angular / narrow. Sub 10% body fat helps with the face but only go for this if you’ve already been lifting for a few years. 9% body fat but rail thin isn’t a great look. If bulking go to around 15-16% body fat and then cut to 10 and repeat until you’re strength level is acceptable. To me that is roughly around a 1,000 pound total ( ben…
/r/TheRedPill22/11/19 06:31 PM
1

You’re getting way too focused on concepts and not realistic execution lmao And no one said anything about obesity. Obesity for sure will never put you in AB or AF category. But you can be overweight and an alpha fucks or bucks - generally have to be tall though as they can wear it well. And alpha fucks doesn’t just mean bad boy with six pack. A guy can have personality/status traits not tied to comfort that will make a woman want to fuck him. Status can mean many things, it’s neither alpha nor …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:46 PM
1

No. Have never seen it either. People that say yes generally aren’t using the term “friend” correctly. Men and women can be acquaintances, sure. But men and women can’t be friends that travel together, get dinner together, go out for drinks one on one etc unless someone wants something more. Yes they can be friends in group settings, or work, or friends of friends but not true friends. Based on the above acquaintance definition probably like a dozen or so. Only standards I care about are if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:34 PM
1

No, you’re misrepresenting Beta Bux big time. You can have status and not be the provider that is a beta bux. Women don’t get turned on by stationary pictures of guys. His body language, presence, personality all greatly factor how she views him and yes how it impacts sexual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:29 PM
1

For women it absolutely is
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:17 PM
1

Nah. If a guys got good status or whatever he can get model tier women that way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:01 PM
1

If you can’t get women or men you are low value plain and simple. Either you have low social skills and thus are awkward, don’t communicate well, push people away, etc. or you are low value in terms of contributing to society - monetarily, charity, etc. both of the above reflect your personality and you’re inability to get a date is a good proxy that you’re just a loser in life The 3rd camp are uggos and those ones I feel bad for. Problem is most incels think they are in that camp and they aren’…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 04:00 PM
3

Alpha and looks aren’t the same, but it’s close. You can be meh in looks and absolutely be an alpha male that women lust for. You can also be good looking and a social dunce that kills attraction. See both all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:54 PM
1

Eh depends on fat. Tall and chubby can absolutely work, especially with a good face.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:51 PM
1

Yep. If you’re fat then it will boost your SMV by at least 2 points. If you’re a former athlete then no, the benefits will be depreciated If you’re tall then it helps big time. Tall and lean / fit is catnip to women - even if you have an average face. Think John Krasinski from the office or jack ryan. If he was 5’9 he’d be considered ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:47 PM
2

7.5 to 8 out of 10. In high school was a solid 4 and didn’t kiss a girl until 2nd year of college so have seen both sides of coin. Adopting red pill principles has really helped me. Life in late 20s compared to late teens is night and day Why I consider myself a 7.5-8: tall, solid hair, dress well, work out and lift 5x a week, good at banter. On dating apps I’m very selective and even then match with 90% of the women I swipe right on. If I downloaded hinge or bumble today I would have 50+ matche…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:45 PM
8

Attractiveness for men isn’t binary. But you could argue it’s more closer to a 3 tier approach than 1-10 for men - as women almost never use that scale the way men do. It’s the following: 0- unattractive. Can have a great personality, money, whatever but not attractive enough for the woman to consider dating or sleeping with. MINORITY of men are in this bucket. Incels and blackpills think they are here - they aren’t. 1 - unremarkable either way. The girl won’t see this guy from across the room a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 03:36 PM
1

Wish you were right but nope
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 12:18 PM
1

Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 12:54 AM
1

Lol low value women. Low value club trash will be thrown off by a guy in a cheap suit. Only posers go out wearing that stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 07:24 PM
1

Lol fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:32 PM
2

Have had many with women not dressing like an accountant that’s for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 04:31 PM
1

Men are honest about our nature. Always have been. No red piller will deny that AMALT as well. The difference is men have never lied about their nature like women do (and not even saying it’s their fault, women can’t be as crass or blunt as men are without losing social value). The other difference is men aren’t pedestalized like women are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 03:44 PM
1

Lol incel
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 03:42 PM
1

If you don’t think clothes can boost your smv then you don’t know how to dress plain and simple
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 03:42 PM
2

Wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 03:00 PM
1

Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:59 PM
2

Completely 100% wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:59 PM
2

Clothes display frame. And yes, clothes can absolutely take a guy from attractive to unattractive and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 02:58 PM
2

Sure, if you’re model status yes. A lot in between that though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:39 PM
0

Lol San Fran chads. Again - beta bux game
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:33 PM
0

And clothes greatly impact looks
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:18 PM
2

Yep. Lifting is talked about a ton but fashion and hair style / grooming can be as important
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:18 PM
3

Status shows beta bucks. Trust me, I will score more puss in a well fitted black vneck that cost $9 than a $90 brooks brothers shirt
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:17 PM
1

Nope. Well fitted clothes can make a guy look so much better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:16 PM
1

Nope. Good fitting clothes can make a guy look so much better
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:16 PM
2

Someone can easily raise or lower their looks by 1.5 points with how they dress
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:15 PM
3

Yep - class. Thing is women can easily fake it one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:14 PM
1

I will agree in the fact that the bar for guys is so LOW in terms of looking good. Average male in the sexual marketplace will wear stupid t-shirts, poorly fitted button downs, cargo shorts, athletic shorts and sneakers, etc out and look terrible. In saying that money and brands of style has NOTHING to do with it. What matters more is the style itself and fit. If you are a guy and are lifting/in shape then you will want a shirt that shows that off far more than hiding behind a $90 brooks brother…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 08:09 PM
2

Yep. Guessing this girl raised her RMV to the point that any guy she wants has the power dynamic Usually women hold the dynamic in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 05:34 PM
1

Guess I can agree with this. In that our parents and grandparents would almost always talk to one person at a time and after 2 or 3 dates would be “dating”. Now boyfriend and girlfriend status is reserved meaning you’ve already slept together, went on plenty of dates, and hung out for several months
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:26 PM
4

In before “ok boomer”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 03:22 PM
3

Not happening if you arent dating crippled elderly men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:38 AM
0

Imagine being so sheltered you think not using straws makes a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:36 AM
0

People need to unplug and join the real world. Worried about mass shootings and melting ice caps? Lmao way to go liberals - fucked over an entire generation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 01:35 AM
2

Thought the gas thing was odd too. Screams of “this is something I should do but she asked me to do it so if I do it now I’ll break frame and look weak” Truth is part of owning your shit is making sure a woman doesn’t need to tell you when to get the oil checked, gas filled, tire pressure fixed, etc
/r/MarriedRedPill19/11/19 10:23 PM
2

Yea not sure what pumping gas has to do with red pill. To me OP is projecting. Wife asks him to do something which makes him not want to do it because he doesn’t want to look weak or “break frame”. But you bet your ass I’m pumping gas and you also bet your ass when the driveway gets covered in snow I’m muscling through it to get a good shovel pump and blood flow before fucking my wifes brains out
/r/MarriedRedPill19/11/19 08:45 PM
2

Wrong. It’s that men are competitive for pussy and don’t want to be associated with failed men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 07:45 PM
1

Women rarely say publicly what they want. They use dog whistles instead though. Ambitious instead of rich. Confident instead of high status. Healthy instead of muscular. And then they say things like “funny” or “nice” which again - means nothing. So yes, watch what they do and not what they say. Many women know what turns them on but also know they’ll be shamed for it so they act innocent. Others have no clue and legit want the Male feminist Yet later on have no idea why they aren’t attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:22 PM
5

You wanted an example of women lying to men I gave you one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 04:13 PM
3

Lmao come on poppy don’t play dumb. I’ll start with one example. “The dad bod”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 12:56 PM
3

Agree with that. Women will rather meet a guy in real world and will have much lower standards as well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 12:50 PM
2

If I say no does that make you my beta orbiter?
/r/askTRP18/11/19 10:12 PM
20

Lmao anyone that says orbiter after 2 dates and no sex is a dumbass
/r/askTRP18/11/19 06:50 PM
2

Depends on what you’re after. Relationship? No. Plate? Yes
/r/askTRP18/11/19 06:49 PM
-2

Lol I go on plenty of dates with no intention of trying to sleep with the girl
/r/askTRP18/11/19 03:35 PM
8

Yep. In high school I remember thinking the “girls want guys with money” thing was bs. The rich guys at our school weren’t any better with women, many were worse. It’s because in high school money doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 09:32 PM
1

Who said anything about tinder?
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 09:30 PM
2

Hinge for sure. Bumble in some markets
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 05:57 PM
4

That and the benefits of the roles men play change. Yea the dumb high school jock is great to date, but once the status benefit from that role is removed the exact same guy with the exact same traits loses luster in the eyes of women. Really is pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:48 PM
25

The lack of self awareness in this post is astounding. You don’t dislike the skater boy because your preferences changed. You don’t like him because his status changed. That’s it. Men are at least consistent in what we like. In high school women want the jock, in college they want the frat President, afterwards they want whoever makes the most money. You think when a woman looks back at the dumb athlete they dated or the drunk frat bro that their preferences “changed”. No sweetie. It’s just that…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/19 05:47 PM
-1

Attractive, educated, fit, and young
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 05:11 PM
-1

No, lol no it isn’t. Tinder is used almost exclusively by community college lower class and lower middle class trash. There are other dating apps that hot and educated women use
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 05:10 PM
-12

Yep. Pure cope from that dude
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 03:30 PM
-8

This is a lie and absolute pure cope at its finest. Plenty of quality top tier women on apps. The fact that you referenced tinder shows how out of touch you are with the modern dating world. No one in those circles uses it
/r/TheRedPill17/11/19 03:30 PM
18

If that’s the case it could be an RMV issue and definitely not SMV. But - in today’s dating app age things are definitely different. It’s a race to who can care the least and who has the most options. So you’re probably not giving off as much relationship vibes as other guys
/r/askTRP17/11/19 07:26 AM
1

And what blow is that? Your inability to open a pickle jar without our help?
/r/askTRP16/11/19 09:16 PM
1

exhibit A of a low RMV lonely ugly woman
/r/askTRP16/11/19 09:07 PM
2

Something no one is mentioning: the birth of a female blue pill. Women never needed a red pill because men have always been honest with what they want. However, thanks to feminism and liberalism a lot of women are being fed lies. Lies like: casual sex is fun and empowering don’t settle down early. College is for partying, not finding a boyfriend focus on career - which requires advanced degrees and moving cities. Don’t prioritize relationships. women are victims. Men are oppressors you can throw…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 08:58 PM
1

I think online dating is what made a lot of this go mainstream. Lifted the curtain on how disadvantaged men are
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 08:52 PM
1

Sad but true. Red pill is “work on yourself, it’ll be worth it” Black pill is “even if you get women, fuck them. Not worth it I’ll play video games”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 08:52 PM
2

Alternatives to sex are far greater The manosphere is relatively young but the most recent evolution has been the growing black pill or incel movement
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 08:45 PM
1

Yea I’m like a 7.5 or 8.0. But growing up was below average for a number of reasons so know both sides of the coin
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 01:43 PM
1

That lie is recent but is still a lie, and the result of feminism. Women never needed a red pill before, but that’s starting to change as well. The ones that were taught to hold off relationships, to discover themselves, to balance career ascension and healthy relationships are learning it’s not possible
/r/askTRP16/11/19 01:40 PM
2

I love it. I love that the shit show that is modern dating is now taking female casualties. I love the decline that’s been talked about for years on the red pill is finally here. I love how brutally honest they are - people think those women may be stuck up but those are ALL women just like TRP represents the wants of ALL men. If all women acted like they do on FDS then the red pill wouldn’t even be exist. But instead men were spoonfed and coddled and built a lie that personality and kindness ma…
/r/askTRP16/11/19 04:56 AM
0

Just because you’re jacked doesn’t mean you’ll get pussy, but it elevates your own attraction level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 04:29 AM
1

What app you use? What are your pictures? I’m not a top tier guy or shredded or anything. I lift 4-5x a week and am tall and know how to build a profile. I’ll get approached by women at bars but am not a 9 or 10
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 12:19 AM
2

Use hinge as tinder is almost exclusively lower class trash. In a relationship now but when I had it I matched with 90-95% of the girls I right swiped with and was very selective in my swipes. All were college educated, fit, etc. was nearing 700 matches in my medium sized city by the time I deleted the app. Can definitely give advice. Im not particularly a great looking guy but for sure above average - and know how to sell myself on an app
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:12 PM
3

Young love or blue pilled love
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:10 PM
0

Trust me - women aren’t into strongmen
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:06 PM
3

Women lie about what they want because society dictates them to be kind and precious. Around their friends they will rip a guys dick size, body, height, etc Men have always been honest. However even now that’s starting to change as less masculine men lie to appease feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:06 PM
1

Not really
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 09:01 PM
2

You can compare it to the tier of women you match with
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:38 PM
1

If you’re still using tinder then that’s a you problem. Try apps actual people who didn’t go to community college or work in retail use
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:36 PM
1

It’s because women have no idea what they want or how a man should get it. M
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 02:09 PM
1

Those studies are pictures mate not real life interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:21 PM
1

Yep. And hot guys can lose interest from women in the blink of an eye if he acts weird or awkward
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:21 PM
0

Red pill will boost your smv. No one who uses the red pill will be anything less than a 6
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:15 PM
1

I’m a guy and used the apps for validation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:13 PM
6

Most incels are actually average. The problem is average guys don’t get approached
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 01:12 PM
1

In the dating app era everyone can quickly find out their level of hot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:49 PM
2

Use dating apps, you’ll know
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:48 PM
4

Yep. I have plenty of below average looking friends - awful style, don’t take care of themselves, and overweight. However in America at least it’s so easy to look around and point at even fatter and uglier people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 12:45 PM
9

This is where men and women differ. Men’s eyes tell them what’s attractive. Women value status, and that relies on that persons worth to others Most guys would rather have a girl no one else wants than a girl all the guys are going for. But as a man we legitimately don’t care, it’s a non factor. We aren’t women - we don’t base our attraction on those more material things
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:24 AM
3

Have you seen the posts on FDS? They are all alpha widowed former plates
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:15 AM
3

Feminism did do that. A ton of stay at home mom shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 09:12 PM
1

over years sure. Short term after noon gains you won’t gain strength at a reasonable rate
/r/askTRP14/11/19 08:24 PM
2

Only people dogging online dating are bottom 80% average looking guys who likely have no idea how to sell themselves Game is important but if you’re online dating game is on point it’s like passive pussy income
/r/askTRP14/11/19 08:01 PM
1

Lol then gaining muscle is impossible
/r/askTRP14/11/19 07:51 PM
1

Lol wrong. Feminism made the accomplishment of starting and raising a family to be less than making partner at a law firm. Which one will leave the better legacy for yourself? For the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 07:50 PM
1

Despite what women will tell you, no, being up front about wanting to keep it casual doesn’t work. Ever. Even on tinder. Even if you’re too 20% or 10% or whatever (unless someone can bounce a quarter off your abs then maybe) That doesn’t mean women aren’t down for causal. They just don’t want you to think they are a whore either. Last minute resistance and that type of stuff is a thing. Just about how you frame it. Because of this we “mislead” women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:19 PM
1

Wish I knew to lift and not treat women as equals long ago. Have a tall build so would have slayed in high school and college. More than made up for it in 20s tho
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:13 PM
2

Online and in made up world of a tranny in every restroom and a roofie in every drink? Yes. In the real world of actual normal people who like to have fun? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:09 PM
4

Lol except men did stop dating women. Men are dropping out of dating en mass, and we are only at the start of this trend
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:07 PM
6

This. Red Pill works because it makes you stand out from other men. FDS would make women more aware of things like negging, plate spin type behavior, push/pull. FDS also says things like make women wait for sex until a relationship is formed. This would never work in society because the Pandora’s box of apps has been opened and any RP guy who lifts, holds frame, etc can move onto another willing woman. If all men became more masculine and traditional then yes, it could work, and would basically …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 06:06 PM
1

What body fat % do you get up to on a bulk? And how do you even accurately measure that?
/r/askTRP14/11/19 02:58 PM
1

Yep being tall and lean is a unique challenge. Getting a 225 bench for example is much much much harder
/r/askTRP14/11/19 02:43 PM
2

Yep. Peak natty you and still have a six pack and definition. But don’t expect to be huge
/r/askTRP14/11/19 02:42 PM
1

Any advice? Been lifting 2 years but have plateaued. Don’t like the weight gain and lack of cardio that comes with a bulk
/r/askTRP14/11/19 02:39 PM
1

Depends on your starting point. If you’re fat or a stick then no, you can’t do that in 1.5 years. If you are a former high school athlete with a dad bod then yea, it’s possible For a new lifter I would say that physique is closer to 4 years. Mainly because of the low body fat and mass, hard to obtain both in a short period of time
/r/askTRP14/11/19 02:27 PM
3

That’s achievable natty. Not in 2 years though unless you have previously experience
/r/askTRP14/11/19 02:23 PM
1

Damn looking good. What does your bulking and cutting cycles look like? What % body fat are you in both pics ? I’ve been lifting for 2 years and noticeably have muscle. But I want to get to better strength standards (ex: reps of 225 bench) which is impossible to do without gaining weight
/r/askTRP14/11/19 02:21 PM
1

Women are fine dating and marrying absolute assholes of humans as long as they are decent to them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 02:16 PM
4

A man who bends over to appease women to get sex, but ultimately doesn’t get sex. Someone with no backbone who lets others tell them what’s right or wrong and doesn’t stand for themselves Most male feminists are cucks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 09:43 PM
3

Eh you’d be surprised how subtle women can be with checking a guy out - especially in an office setting. You want to know if she’s into you? Go to happy hours
/r/askTRP13/11/19 02:57 PM
2

Yep. Alcohol isn’t the issue. She knew she wanted johns dick and wanted to be the girl to openly flirt with her and knew alcohol would get her there. Taking away alcohol means less uber rides of her crying drunk. Doesn’t take away the resentment
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 02:44 PM
1

10 minutes with this girl could probably spot the red flags
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 02:43 PM
8

To do that in front of the husbands sister and mother is also a complete lack of respect she has for him, and her drunken state was only an excuse to flirt more with chad John
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 02:32 PM
1

The uber took 30 min to get to her parents house. Guessing they live closer than that - she probably went back to good place and John saw her as a drunk mess and told her to fuck off
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 02:12 PM
2

What the fuck does that even mean. “You are the most ethical person I’ve met” Sounds like something a NPR listening cuck would say about a feminist wife
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 02:09 PM
6

Any woman will turn disrespectful and into a bitch when given that much weakness. It’s their nature
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 02:06 PM
19

Can you imagine the balls John has to hit on this guys wife in front of his husband and invite her out to get food later knowing damn well they’d be together?
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 01:39 PM
3

Picked that kind of behavior up on the post. He’s probably a very nice husband and but but that’s not what women want. You can tell by how he didn’t raise any internal alarms by this John character, and later on by saying they always talk about sexual desires and what not. His wife probably has plenty of whore tells me missed as well
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 01:37 PM
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Yep. AWALT in that all women are capable of cheating but this guy likely missed some seismic red flags for that kind of behavior
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 01:32 PM
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Lol yep. Anyone here who actually lifts knows that physique isn’t possible naturally in that time frame
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 01:06 PM
-2

Lol if anyone here thinks this body wasn’t the result of steroids. Good way to see who actually lifts and who just talks it
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 01:06 PM
2

5 years ago the answer for sure was in person or you look like a pussy bitch In today’s world tbh don’t think it hurts you either way. Especially if you’re on the younger end
/r/askTRP13/11/19 12:57 PM
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Disagree. Women have it better except at the top. A wealthy man or a very attractive man has it better than his female counterpart All else is true
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/19 04:39 AM
1

I struggle gaining strength and having energy without carbs. My carbs come from sweet potatoes and quinoa though - healthy foods
/r/askTRP13/11/19 04:36 AM
1

Question on lean and strong. How do you recommend getting both? Strength requires bulking and weight gain, which goes against being lean. What body fat do you work with?
/r/askTRP12/11/19 09:30 PM
2

Love the first one. I used to use self depreciation all the time as a form of humor. It is absolutely a sign of low self esteem unless used sparingly.
/r/askTRP12/11/19 09:28 PM
5

Hair on your head and facial hair.
/r/askTRP12/11/19 09:26 PM
3

It’s the black pillers in delusion. Majority of Guys can become top 20% in looks by lifting
/r/askTRP12/11/19 09:25 PM
1

My 3 were some of the toughest to swallow for me but also the most important. Many are counter-intuitive, but have been proven correct time and time again based on my experience AWALT - common critique of TRP is it only works on damaged women. I’ve used it to sleep with feminists, church girls with low n counts (or so they claim), college athletes, former models, doctors, college cheerleaders, lawyers etc. It applies to everyone. Men love women, women love children, children love puppies. Basica…
/r/askTRP12/11/19 09:18 PM
3

Status is king is useful but it doesn’t mean always chase status - that can lead to beta bux. There are ways of demonstrating status without relying solely on your wallet to win girls
/r/askTRP12/11/19 09:14 PM
1

Difference also being women can work any job they choose - artist, musician, teacher, etc and still get a middle or middle upper class lifestyle reserved for professionals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:53 PM
1

Lol compared to men where not wanting or needing to work eliminates a chance of finding a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:51 PM
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Yep. There’s a reason women don’t commit suicide as much or shoot up schools. Their pussy gives them inherent value. An average woman at college still goes to crazy parties, sleeps with attractive fraternity guys, etc The average guy at college does none of those things
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 06:48 PM
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Mad projection? Lmao it’s called awareness and working as a marketing consultant for some of the largest brands in the world You ain’t buying luxury. You’re buying the feeling of luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:58 PM
1

It’s subjective. If you’re a lonely feminist or a beta soy cuck everything is objectification. If you’re an alpha dog then you just don’t give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 03:56 PM
1

Then do you really want to change your behavior and be someone with a stick up your ass who can’t joke about anything ever? When I was running through the reasons a girl broke things off with me the fact that I made a mass shooter joke crossed my mind. But realistically who would just flip their attraction based on something like that unless it was already not very firm to begin with
/r/askTRP08/11/19 08:04 PM
2

Yep. You get good at what you need to get good at to survive. Women are MUCH better than men at emotional manipulation but also reading people’s body language and reading a room. If someone makes a subtle gesture that they are sad, upset, flirty, etc whatever women will pick up on it more than men. This is because they couldn’t survive on their physical strength so had to develop in other ways
/r/askTRP08/11/19 07:52 PM
2

I hate running but can tolerate boot camp style fitness classes. When cutting do a couple of these a week while also lifting and cut back on carbs, any fat will melt off
/r/askTRP08/11/19 07:24 PM
1

Yep. And when she loses attraction she likely won’t know why but it’s due to the above. Could be anything
/r/askTRP08/11/19 07:23 PM
3

Girls care about perception and being viewed as nice and kind. Men don’t. We are honest, they aren’t.
/r/askTRP08/11/19 07:21 PM
1

Closure is a myth brother. You can’t get inside her head to learn the truth and whatever candy coated shit she says won’t be it. You can believe her and think she wasn’t in the right place for a relationship, she needed to discover herself, and that you’re the kindest guy she’s ever met The cold hard fucking reality is she could have lost interest for any number of reasons Maybe the sex wasn’t good Maybe your place was too dirty Maybe you texted her too much and too quickly Maybe she found a dif…
/r/askTRP08/11/19 07:17 PM
6

Trust me brother I always abide by that rule, and have turned down many women at work. Thought this one was special, but it’s good to get reminded on red pill principles from time to time Learned that lesson with experience
/r/askTRP08/11/19 06:56 PM
2

You can be single to move cities and travel the world, but don’t put off relationships forever. You’ll find dating can be harder at 30 than 25
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 03:43 PM
2

Most red pillers know the difference between a woman with a career (good) and a career woman (bad). Most anyone who works in an office should too. A woman with a career is smart, dedicated, but not overcommitted. Her ceiling is likely middle management which isn’t a bad lifestyle. Career women will put off other responsibilities to focus on career. That includes family, self, relationships. This means long hours, traveling, moving cities, and evenings happy hour networking. They live to move up …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 03:33 PM
1

No. It’s the ability to attract a partner. Men want sex, women want commitment. This isn’t new
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 03:30 PM
3

Yep. “Just lift” is good advice but you will achieve 90% of the benefits from it in this first 2 years. From there on out any progress is a grind
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 03:29 PM
3

Then you aren’t self aware enough to realize your own motivations lol Nothing “luxury” about the two of those things. They are 99% the same vehicle. Nothing “luxury” about that $3,000 bottle of wine either. It’s indistinguishable from something 1% it’s cost. You like it because of the feeling of superiority it gives you and with that the status among other men and the ability to attract women with it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 03:28 PM
3

I feel alpha widow is only possible in STRs or one night stands. In an LTR even if there’s an smv gap she will see you when you’re sick, beaten from a tough day, off your game, mustard on your shirt, etc whatever from time to time The only girls I’ve alpha widowed are ones who probably built up an idealized version of me in their head.
/r/askTRP08/11/19 03:26 PM
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Met a girl at work who instantly clicked with, the kind that you feel you knew for years just because your personalities are so similar. I date and sleep with a good number of women - so is rare when I get feelings towards one. Dated her for a bit until she left me for an older guy at the company who had a better job title. Funny thing is they dated each other for a bit until she left him for an even older guy who had an even better job title. All same office too lmao Yea. AWALT. Learn and move …
/r/askTRP08/11/19 03:23 PM
2

That woman will cry for a day, maybe a week, before slutting it up again and finding a new dick to get attached to in less than a month. Girls take the news much worse than guys often up front, but they forget about you much quickly.
/r/askTRP08/11/19 03:20 PM
1

Yea but what does that have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 01:47 AM
1

Beauty and youth sells to women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/19 01:46 AM
1

“Nice” is defined as two things: What helps you get ahead in the male dominance hierarchy or what helps get you laid. Is that bmw really nicer than the Camry? Don’t kid yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 09:47 PM
5

Lol at thinking you want to keep them all of them around. Take her off that pedestal buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 07:38 PM
0

Yea no
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 07:37 PM
2

Balls and shaft - you could never fuck again in this scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:40 PM
21

There is no one who took the red pill and accepted it willingly at first. We all choked on it, didn’t believe it, fought it at first. Similarly - most don’t just take it at face value but only believed in when application proved it true The more and more I engage in RP behavior, even if it was against my kind nature, the more results worked. Offer dread instead of flowers. Tell them what to do instead of treating them as equal. Insult them instead of provide flattery. Lift weights instead of get…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:25 PM
0

lol at the self delusion. Sex sells is marketing 101, not red pill theories
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:15 PM
5

Yep. If you took the dick off any high achieving man then their behavior will change - trust me. I would probably give up lifting outside of baseline fitness and probably play video games all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:03 PM
6

Yep. Also marketing as well. Is that brooks brothers shirt really better quality than the one off the rack at TJ Maxx? No, not really. But you pay more to signal to others your status
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:02 PM
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Yep. Men that are honest with themselves will admit its a driving factor. Same to women saying what they like in men. It’s not “personality” but they won’t say “he’s tall and a doctor!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:00 PM
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If men are being honest with themselves - it’s accurate When I joined my fraternity everyone would talk about the reason they joined was brotherhood and to give back to the community. Don’t lie to yourself - it was parties and pussy No one enjoys working 55-80 hours a week in a fucking cubicle. You think clicking through PowerPoint decks and making excel models is “ambitious”? Lol its monkey work. But can be highly paid monkey work. End of the day men do this for sex or for traits that signal th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 02:27 PM
0

lol at beta bux game. If you focus on getting money to get women, respect, etc. you are playing a losing fucking game mate. ​ ​ That said - dont chase women like they are the end all either. I put myself before both. My body, my interests, my passions, my dreams. Dont get me wrong - have a good career for my age. But I personally find the corporate cock suckers pathetic, especially those doing so for women
/r/askTRP07/11/19 12:00 AM
0

Will admit liberal soy cucks virtue signal
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 11:28 PM
9

Those men are higher status than their relative women dipshit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 11:28 PM
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No one on TRP denies AMALT. Difference is men are brutally honest about what attracts them. Women aren’t. Not even blaming women - if a woman comes out and says “status, height, money” she will be shamed by other women as well as men. So she says “personality and kindness”. Thus the birth of the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 06:56 PM
3

You aren’t. Men’s dating value is based on who they can sleep with. Women’s dating value is based on who they can get commitment from
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 06:50 PM
0

Women and me both have unique issues in life - modern dating is no different. 80/20 is absolutely true for men, which means many women are chasing after the select few men. What you end up seeing are women “used” for sex. Look at Female Dating Strategy sub - the equivalent of male incels. The difference is they can get sex, just not anything more This is a common problem for women with dating but it isn’t new. The “can’t get him to commit” trope has been going on for ages, as has the sexless mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 06:49 PM
1

Lmao know these terms are very popular and long predate the red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:48 PM
5

That’s not a couple of red flags that’s a walking game of minesweeper That shot is tolerable from hot tight 22 year old club rats. By your late 20s you should have that stuff figured out
/r/askTRP06/11/19 12:48 AM
8

And a Napoleon complex if he’s 5’5, rich, and fit
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:13 AM
5

Yep being full of yourself gets girls interested. Being vulnerable turns them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:07 AM
15

Women love cocky. If a woman ever calls you an asshole, arrogant, or douche bag it’s a good thing and 100% means she wants to fuck you. Those insults mean you’re in a position of relative power Creepy, weird, loser, etc on other hand aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 12:05 AM
1

We are already seeing this in urban areas and other developed nations. Women with less suitable partners. So you see a man with his shit together having more options. The other women who can’t secure the top 20% guy will just ride the cock carousel until finding a beta they make more than and don’t find attractive or going full on cat mode
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 10:32 PM
1

women only value talent if you can gain status or money from it. Since things like writing, music, art can be subjective then it's pretty much chance
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 03:23 AM
1

one weird thing I noticed with girls I love or had deep crushes on. I can beat off to the thought of other women but cant with them. It's like a special place in my heart theyve reached
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/19 03:20 AM
1

it works on any plane. Music, intelligence, corporations, etc. A mans SMV incorporates so much more than looks - that if there were a bunch of 10s walking around there would still be differences to create a hierarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 07:45 PM
1

Disagree. It’s cold, cynical, analytical and honest view of the dating marketplace. If you’re lost it helps. RPW works better overall I’d say.FDS is about building self confidence and respect but RPW is about actually building your value
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 06:14 PM
0

Maybe by bust his ass he means go to gym regularly, eat well, work hard, etc You can be born into the top 20%, you can also work to get there. Work is busting your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 04:56 PM
1

I’d say most women and men on reddit are very low value in the sexual marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 04:55 PM
1

Not true in your hypothetical. The difference between them would be small, but still a difference, and still a hierarchy. Look at the nba. Top .001% of basketball players. In that group is there hardly a difference? No. There are massive differences
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 04:21 PM
0

Yep. Saw this in college with our fraternity. Guy would go from struggling to get laid to elected chapter president to spinning the hottest plates on campus
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 04:19 PM
-2

Haha and how do you know? I’m in the top 5-10% myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 04:18 PM
4

Yep. 20% of men are good looking enough to actually get women based on something other than kindness and wallet size. These guys can download an app and get matches right away. In a proverbial high school they are athletes. In college they are the frat bros. Chad? Chad is the high school quarterback. Chad is the fraternity president. He’s the guy that can text a girl at 2am to come over for a fucking before Ubering her home. He gets what he wants when he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 04:16 PM
1

Lol at saying this when it’s true x 1000 for women. They have no idea what they want in men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 04:14 PM
2

If you read FDS and don’t think it’s nothing but low RMV thot trash then I have no idea what to tell you. Posts there complain about former boyfriends that had drug issues, treated them like shit, were unemployed, etc. not really people you want to take advice from to attract Prince Charming or even a decent dude. Is a good display of red pill truths though. FDS is more ghetto game than girl game. Do love the sub though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 04:12 PM
0

Hot girls aren’t on tinder. Anyone that uses tinder of either gender is low SMV in general Apps like hinge or bumble have far better women
/r/askTRP04/11/19 02:11 PM
0

If it's with an entire gender then it's your own autistic fault
/r/askTRP04/11/19 04:17 AM
2

well obviously - bay area is full of asians
/r/askTRP04/11/19 03:59 AM
2

most dont. some do. Cost of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/19 03:59 AM
8

Life tip for you lads. Her income doesn’t matter, her spending habits do. A teacher who is truly low maintenance will best out a lawyer wife who wants to keep up with the joneses Don’t look at her money, look at her lifestyle. And no they aren’t correlated (rich people can be simple, poor people can have terrible spending Habits). Also found the more she cares about money the more hypergamous she will be in general. Someone that compares herself to others nonstop will compare her man to others a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:49 PM
-5

Offerman is a phaggot
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:11 PM
1

Agree 100%. Is this a double standard? Yes, but they exist for a reason. The fallout of a guy sharing his emotions/crying and being a sexless loser is far more damaging than bottling it up inside
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 07:10 PM
2

Cool. Ive only been lifting heavy for 2 years but trying to get to around 220 lean as a long term gosl
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 06:09 PM
1

One of saddest things about the red pill is that if you were raised to be a sweetheart like most nice guy beta blue pillers are (myself included) then you die a little inside implementing RP techniques, and then even more when they work. At least at first - it goes away eventually as you yourself change to be that man
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 06:09 PM
8

Lol seen something similar once at dinner at a friends house. His wife talked about how she hooked up so much in college and her husband looked so defeated and kept trying to change the subject
/r/askTRP03/11/19 06:07 PM
3

Common misconceptions about shit tests. They are a good thing. It means she sees you as an alpha at some level, and now needs to confirm. If you aren’t receiving a shit test she’s either not interested or your SMV is 3+ points above her. So at a certain point if you aren’t getting shit tests it means you’re either settling or your smv is just astronomical (not likely to be achieved by anyone here. We should all build to be that man - but just a reality)
/r/askTRP03/11/19 01:53 PM
1

Must have a ton of safe or beta traits
/r/askTRP03/11/19 01:50 PM
1

The worst kind.
/r/askTRP03/11/19 01:50 PM
14

It’s exceptionally trashy. Do you want the mother of your children to have been fucked by two guys at once?
/r/askTRP03/11/19 01:49 PM
1

lol at thinking lifting is all there is to it
/r/askTRP03/11/19 01:46 PM
1

Lol looking at DNA. It’s true. What’s also true is men are similar but not with status. Rich guys trading in their first wife for a younger hotter one happens all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 01:11 PM
6

He should never be talking to her anyways , sounds like the seeds of oneitis
/r/askTRP03/11/19 12:53 PM
12

If a girl ever says she hates a guy, or that he’s an asshole, or that he’s a douche bag - then 10/10 times she wants to fuck his brains out Girls respond to emotional triggers. Someone who makes a girl angry is creating that emotional response and the feeling of hate is very close to love for women. Her going over there is much more rude to you than not going would be to her friends. You know what to do, now have the balls to do it
/r/askTRP03/11/19 12:52 PM
2

Nice dude. What program got you there? I’m a little taller, but struggle with gaining strength now. Heard going to 15% body fat, then to 10, and back to 15, is best way to slowly put on muscle. Any thoughts? I’m 205, 6’3, 12% bf, can only do 225 for one rep. Fortunately have a naturally big chest so look bigger than guys stronger than me
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 12:41 PM
4

Lol there is so much more to the red pill and self improvement than lifting
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 12:39 PM
29

Problem is the spinning plates life isn’t fulfilling, at least to me, either. It’s freeing - not having to put value in what women think of you or not feeling vulnerable to the false feeling of love - but it’s not great as a purpose You need to find another purpose in life outside of women and go after that
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 12:35 PM
3

Don’t have much in the way of advice but want to say I’m so sorry you’re going through this mate. 4 years is a long time with someone, and moving for her was a huge sacrifice on your end You could be overthinking it and it could be any number of factors. Does her family like you? Her friends? Or there other men in her circle? At 24 she is likely seeing the last few years of her early 20s go by without the sleep around experience so many women want. She is also young enough where she can dodge th…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 12:33 PM
2

And then it’s time to turn it into an STR ;)
/r/askTRP03/11/19 02:24 AM
1

It literally can build your sexual presence in her eyes. Good looking and no social skills gets you nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 02:24 AM
-1

Not random ass. Work on yourself
/r/askTRP03/11/19 02:23 AM
1

That’s a false assumption
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 02:22 AM
-2

Tough. Deal with it. If every time you talk to chicks it’s dead end conversations then that’s your social autism - not theirs
/r/askTRP03/11/19 02:22 AM
-4

If you can’t get women to talk it’s not their problem, it’s yours.
/r/askTRP02/11/19 11:20 PM
1

Yep and more women need to get this. Sex is part of the package on if you’re LTR worthy or not. I can like everything else but if the sex isn’t there I’m out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 05:00 PM
1

Different argument. Girl game works on all guys just like red pill works on all women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:56 PM
1

Exactly. It’s why I laugh reading female dating strategy. Just really low RMV women attracting trash. If you’re a woman worth a damn guys will respect you and vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:55 PM
1

I’m not saying hot girls lack personality. I’m saying most girls do and hot women are no exception They are trash in the wind going wherever it takes them. Social media posts every day and bars every weekend type. Spend money on whatever is being marketed as the next cool thing. Conversations are about people or shows or other stupid shit. No depth there
/r/askTRP02/11/19 04:53 PM
1

Today? Yes. If you’re a guy your kill count is a big deal when young And don’t get me started on women who need to “find themselves”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:48 PM
1

Fair enough, I definitely treat women differently based on that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:46 PM
1

Um yes, it is. Social skills and game boost your smv
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 04:44 PM
4

Lol no Anyone asking for nude pics is likely cat fishing you
/r/askTRP02/11/19 04:43 PM
11

Yep. Having someone to do things with, on demand sex, the inside jokes, and deeper connection with someone is worth experiencing But just remember it’s only your turn
/r/askTRP02/11/19 04:39 PM
19

In college and in general girls have it easier but guys can have it better Learned this very early. If you’re a girl you have built in social equity. You can get into any party you want and be treated well. As a guy you aren’t getting in unless you’re in a fraternity or a known athlete. If you aren’t either of those and went to State U then your parties sucked As a girl you’ll instantly have friends , be socialized , get invited to things. As a guy you or your group needs to make that stuff happ…
/r/askTRP02/11/19 04:26 PM
1

They exist but these days only in religious circles and get married young.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 07:26 PM
3

Lol once you become high value yourself enough you’ll see that these hot girls are just girls like anyone else and a lot of them are dumb and lack personalities just like anyone else. I’ve ghosted plenty of 8+ in my day. If it’s not a match on a non-sexual level then it’s not a match plain and simple
/r/askTRP01/11/19 06:43 PM
2

Yes but vast majority of women would propose this to their beta husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:32 PM
3

Nah it’s true. If you don’t ejaculate for 2-3 days you will become much hornier and assertive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:32 PM
4

Lol been guy #2 before. We never had an exclusivity talk but she assumed it. Fucked other girls while waiting on this one
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:10 PM
3

They absolutely do and it’s not even debatable at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:09 PM
2

High social market people ideally. If he friend group sucks then the dating pool sucks Also those high value trad guys exist but are taken up by early 20s. They usually are successful, date a girl they meet in college (who also is a trad), and are married by 22 with kids soon after If you’re 25+ you are hunting a unicorn for a trad guy in his late 20s who is single and high SMV or RMV. So yea you’re pool is losers. If you want a good trad you have about a 3 year window to do so (18-21 in college…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:01 PM
6

Congrats! Hookup culture is glamorized but end of day not very fulfilling. College is a great time to meet SOs and build a life together as you can share so many new experiences. Too many people take that opportunity for granted
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:00 PM
1

Low betas will say how high when a girl says jump in regards to sex But agree only religious sheltered dudes or betas very close to omega status would take this deal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:50 PM
1

Is the ideal route, but becoming less common in today’s age. Also probably easiest way to end up settling. Dating apps are many things - but it’s also an efficient dating market in terms of economics. You go on a hundred dates with different people you will eventually reach an equilibrium of someone whose your RMV worth. If you limit that pool then you can swing up or down in either direction This will filter out not only alphas for sure but high betas. All that’s left will be betas with low sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:48 PM
2

getting over setbacks quickly and moving on.
/r/askTRP01/11/19 05:16 PM
3

It is too far. And is just another giant shit test
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:15 PM
7

Depends. As others here said introducing yourself to the guy in a friendly yet assertive manner works. If she runs off and dances with him, especially if something like grinding, then just leave and break up with her next day. Not worth time to turn it into an arms race by dancing with other girls
/r/askTRP01/11/19 03:29 PM
11

Yep. At 16 they look 18/21 and at 25 they look like a 30 year old trying to be 18. Not even fat either, a lot of their diets is just drugs and not eating. A girl that eats healthy but actually works out will last much longer
/r/TheRedPill01/11/19 03:28 PM
5

Open marriages is the answer. Shame men into it. Either that marriage as an institution is sexist, or that “both” couples should have freedom to meet other people. Betas will say yes to appease the woman like they’ve always have. Thus husband still provides, wife fucks Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 03:26 PM
3

Eh I’ve had women where I took too long, I’ve had women where I’ve moved too fast. The key is a short memory, and moving fast.
/r/askTRP01/11/19 03:25 PM
8

Disagree. I think they destroy marriage altogether and instead try to built an ultimate AF/BB situation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:50 PM
1

TRP isn’t a cult dumbass. People can think whatever they want
/r/askTRP01/11/19 11:25 AM
1

Yep. Sensitive bitching here, no surprise. Thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 11:24 AM
1

Glad the answers here aren’t being a work drone. Yes it’s important to have a career but my friends that are 100% work 0% everything else are miserable and look miserable
/r/askTRP01/11/19 11:24 AM
3

Man I get the “you should run game everywhere” but at a bar women will either stare or initiate conversation with me frequently. Never see the same response from cute girls at the grocery store
/r/askTRP01/11/19 11:21 AM
-8

You’re doing it wrong if you think it’s a cuck move
/r/askTRP01/11/19 11:18 AM
-3

Agree completely with your response. There’s a degree of power in being the friendly guy (as long as you’re doing so in an assertive way). I’ve hit on girls with boyfriends before and that reaction was always the one that threw me off but also didn’t add unnecessary escalation to the situation
/r/askTRP01/11/19 11:17 AM
72

Yep, this isn’t a test on you it’s a test on her.
/r/askTRP01/11/19 11:15 AM
9

I’d add social to that as well. A hobby that gets you involved and meeting people
/r/askTRP01/11/19 01:28 AM
1

Exactly proving my point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 06:22 PM
2

The “wow” response, just like sending a guy “k” when angry lol what a chode
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 06:22 PM
2

Case and point overly sensitive puss right here
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 06:21 PM
1

All women will whore for the right guy but there’s definitely a spectrum
/r/askTRP31/10/19 06:10 PM
1

I disagree. If you’re an alpha you stand out so much more at a church setting. Thing is you have to go in LTR hunting (even though church has plenty of sloots) or else you’ll be disappointed. A girl you meet at church will be less of a whore right away than if you met at bar even if it’s the same girl. But if you want an attractive girl with family and conservative values it’s your best shot.
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:59 PM
1

Lol dumbass plenty of 29 year olds are better than a 6
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:55 PM
1

You set everything on an alpha beta frame where people are worse than you then you’ll always put other people better than you You’ll lose an identity and chase being what someone is instead of the best version of yourself
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:54 PM
2

If you try to amog there it will be abundantly clear to everyone and you’ll look like a tool. Don’t need to get steamrolled but don’t need to make an enemy either
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:47 PM
3

Yep. Not denying this girl is hot but at 29 , still single, going out and getting drunk all the time she’s a fucking mess
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:38 PM
1

Act faster. Doubt this woman is looking for anything serious with a guy 7 years younger If you’re 22 and she’s 29 she’s either looking for no strings attached sex or blowing smoke up your ass so you give her attention
/r/askTRP31/10/19 05:32 PM
1

Yep. So much easier to do this than go the beta bux way
/r/TheRedPill31/10/19 04:32 PM
3

Not doing monk mode also sets you up for failure. Say you suck with women. You begin lifting, eating better, having cool hobbies. A month or two in you already see progress and start trying to date. You went from not being able to get anyone to now getting 5s, at this point you will settle or go back to your destructive tendencies
/r/TheRedPill31/10/19 04:29 PM
11

Yep. Proof of this is if you frequent bodybuilding forums a ton of guys are ripped and have problems getting girls Yet there are dad bod dudes in my frat days who had the game and could pull 8+ women. Women DO approach but don’t rely on it
/r/TheRedPill31/10/19 04:25 PM
30

If you think bartenders are high tier women then you really need to get out more
/r/TheRedPill31/10/19 04:14 PM
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A lot of these women do not age well. Either because the contrast from their prime is so stark or because the lifestyle I’ve dated models and high tier women. They fall into 2 camps usually. Yes they all know they are hot but not all engage in the hard partying lifestyle (have to go for the more conservative ones). The drugs, plastic surgeries, alcohol, and 3am nights in Prague take their toll though
/r/TheRedPill31/10/19 04:13 PM
-2

And women don’t understand it at all is the best part
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:46 PM
4

If she does that then she’s likely insecure and a mental mess so good filtering process. Changing your behavior out of fear of offending a woman is a good way to immediately break frame and lose respect though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:42 PM
1

Hahahahaha haha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:11 PM
6

Men are better and more natural with banter, but I think women are better at receiving it from men than men are from women. Women are used to being coddled and put on a pedestal by men. A guy that banters is going to intrigue and challenge her. Guys are used to relying on women for emotional support. If a woman jokes with him he will take much more offense than if from a friend Being able to banter is also a display of high SMV. Basically bantering is how men shit test each other
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:10 PM
3

Has to do with smartphones and social media. People don’t go out as much. Instead easier to spend a Friday night complaining online Yes even a fat loser back in the day could go to the local bar and get lucky once in a while. Still can happen today, they just choose to stay inside
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 03:07 PM
1

Called having a life you fat fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 09:38 PM
1

FDS seems full of high smv low rmv women. Dating apps have also made it easier to get sex, harder to get commitment - as has the view of causal sex in general. This doesn’t mean don’t put out early. But it does mean to work on your RMV. Sadly feminism and culture is trying to turn women into men and vice versa. This is an RMV death knell
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:55 PM
0

Well it’s unhealthy for starters, and unattractive secondly. Not hard to figure out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:32 PM
0

Also a lot of it is what the genders care about. Broad generalization here but men care more about utility while women care more about emotional benefits. Men care if the house does what it’s supposed to do. Is the couch comfortable, Does everything work, etc. women will care about paint, interior, making it clean. Many men are fine leaving a plate of dinner on the counter overnight if it means getting to it when they want - a lot of women aren’t Yes men can be neat women can be slobs but the “I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 06:31 PM
3

Going to shoot straight , it’s going to cost you in many relationships. You should remedy that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 01:25 PM
1

Lol rich women do not go for young men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:13 PM
3

Women think men bantering is bullying. It’s not. It’s roughing you up. If you’re fat then you’re fat. Much more productive then women keeping their head in the sand
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:13 PM
1

Those aren’t outlets, and those aren’t near as crass as this place
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 11:12 PM
3

Nope. Money and status give men options. Doesn’t for women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 09:20 PM
2

Yep, so refreshing to hear actual honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 09:19 PM
1

Don’t play dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 09:13 PM
1

They aren’t fully red yet. Yes they understand casual sex is bad for them and it’s ok to be honest in what you want - but they still are feminists slowly losing their views. Ex: body shaming = banned immediately there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:13 PM
0

Women in the past haven’t needed such an outlet. Seems like that’s changed
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 08:02 PM
3

Love how they also have similar terms “Pickmes” and “manoids” Fascinating times we live in. Cats out of the bag and it ain’t going back in
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:29 PM
8

TRP is a male only space there is no bullying that goes on, and “manipulation” lol that’s a woman’s game - TRP is just the playbook I agree though on FDS. It’s a nice counter move to the red pill. It also means in a way the red pill has won. It’s tenets are almost accepted as a universal truth now. Feminism lied to men by telling them women want you to be passive, kind, and treat them as equals. Feminism lied to women by telling them it’s ok to be fat and sex positive. Maybe the genders need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:25 PM
1

Lmao blue pill NAWALT behavior All women are like that sub. You just haven’t seen those conversations. Women only act nice to look innocent to men and superior to other women. That sub is 100% true. Women behind closed doors will comment on your dick size, on your bank account size, on your height, etc Once you learn all women are like this then you take them off the pedestal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:06 PM
8

Yep. Those posts make you uncomfortable? Good. It should. Welcome to how women honestly view the sexual marketplace
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:03 PM
2

Those women still are blue pilled in many ways (any body shamed is instantly banned). But interesting to see the overlap between red pill women and fds (mostly liberals) land squarely on “casual sex is bad for women” No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 07:02 PM
2

Also sounds like OP is the “tall jacked” phaggot and the “loser” is someone. Just a hunch
/r/askTRP29/10/19 06:56 PM
1

Who knows. You don’t know the situation, and I certainly can’t trust your telling of the situation Maybe the “loser” is rich. Maybe you don’t know what jacked means. Maybe she didn’t leave him but just told you that to save face. Could be anything
/r/askTRP29/10/19 06:55 PM
2

This stuff is crystal clear when outside but in the trenches (having been there myself in bp days) not so easy It’s called having self respect and having options outside your girl. These guys have a decent SMV? Odds are probably not. Absolutely pathetic to take that disrespect and if you take her back she will NEVER respect you again
/r/askTRP29/10/19 06:48 PM
2

“Another thread” what - the faggy relationships sub?
/r/askTRP29/10/19 06:42 PM
1

Tours over boyo
/r/askTRP29/10/19 06:31 PM
2

Most 8+ aren’t dating investment bankers with a square jaw lol having been in those circles that’s more myth than reality. Vast majority of guys in high finance are Asian or dad bods.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:57 PM
2

5 to 7s also by definition have most ‘equal’ partners. They are socially active (anyone 5+ is) and out of a bar on a Friday night there are dozens who they’d go home with If you’re an 8+ male or female (especially with RMV) you’re partner is going to be good looking, tall if a man, has their shit together, interesting, successful in some capacity So at the bar there is maybe 1-2 people now in the entire room who is similar to your SO and for you to “branch swing” that person would have to be BET…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:53 PM
4

I’ll say this as an attractive guy who has Unattractive friends who have cheated. When you’re attractive the opportunity is everywhere. I can’t go to bars on a weekend without women either staring or approaching me. Can’t work without a new girl in the office asking you out every 1-2 months. Etc, and that’s fine. When you find someone you like enough for an LTR you KNOW you’re sacrificing those hookups because they are so available to you My ugly friends who have cheated (men, can’t speak for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:48 PM
2

Agree - those that are triggered by it are phaggots
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:45 PM
2

Yes this is true. Women maki. Money gives them power to not be powerless, but it does not tilt them over men in the relationship power dynamics. Looks and being desired does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:45 PM
11

How so? It’s literally dating strategy similar to here or TRP. Men just aren’t used to women being so open and blunt. Trust me, they have these conversations behind closed doors so might as well have it on a sub for men to see. 100% any friends of girlfriends you’ve had know your dick size for example
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:43 PM
3

I’m in. Can’t wait to fuck your girl while you watch
/r/askTRP29/10/19 03:21 PM
13

I actually appreciate the honesty. Don’t know why men here are so pissy. Men have always been blunt about what we want, women have to lie. That lie is what created the blue pill If women were honest there would be more hurt feelings (you mean women don’t want my short chubby body!??) but more paths to legitimate improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:05 PM
-1

Lol pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:04 PM
0

Nope. No man will concede power to a woman because she got a pay bump. Now if she lost 15 pounds and got a firmer ass and new wardrobe maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:02 PM
9

Yep. Money doesn’t give a woman power over a man in a relationship lmao, does give her power over herself though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 03:00 PM
1

Cosmo of new maybe. Just like GQ now tells men to ask for consent before having sex. Both have lost their way due to liberal nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 02:59 PM
8

A woman making money does not give her power over a man in relationship, it just prevents him from having that kind of power over her. If a woman wants power over a man in a relationship then she needs to become as hot as possible to attract as many suitors as possible, it’s that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 02:58 PM
2

Trump is a billionaire lol at you thinking he has a goldfish acumen. He plays you as well. Sheep
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 02:04 AM
1

and how while still in college. Internship?
/r/askTRP29/10/19 02:01 AM
-3

not my kink but I will try anything
/r/askTRP29/10/19 02:00 AM
1

People are different. People are the same. Just playing the odds dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 01:59 AM
1

Yes have seen this play out many times in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 10:50 PM
0

You’d be better off improving yourself until you can get guys that are hot instead of convincing yourself you don’t like them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 10:49 PM
1

Yea that’s what I said about omegas. And fair, pure alphas and pure betas don’t really exist - and you can be alpha in all aspect of life but beta with relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 10:49 PM
1

Yes and I have results
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 10:48 PM
-2

Girls either think this or say this. Would you rather her not tell you?
/r/askTRP28/10/19 10:46 PM
3

Lol at the non-Indian. There are hot Indian guys. But yea basically. RMV = relationship market value SMV = sexual market value 80% of men are either beta bucks or omega males. They get sex and relationships by either trading resources/commitment or not having sex at all (omegas). Being a beta isn’t a bad thing by any means, majority of men you know likely are this. The last 20% are alpha fucks and alpha bucks. Both are hot and dominant guys. One is the former college athlete who works in a profe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:40 PM
4

If they are it’s due to misapplication or just using it as an outlet to bitch about women. I can speak personally to it’s truths as well as almost everything else in the pick up community
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:32 PM
2

Having used RP on feminist women myself always laugh at how little they control their biological imperative
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:29 PM
1

A lot of that was bullshit though. Girls don’t read profiles on guys that hot so they will of course swipe right. I think what It did reveal was the difference between Alpha Fucks and Beta Bux. That is another red pill tenet that’s widely accepted now but sounded crazy when introduced
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:28 PM
0

For them, yes. I’d argue it is. But there are more alternatives today than even a decade ago for low value men to distract themselves with
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:07 PM
0

Feminism may be promoted but red pilled men (whether or not they post to the sub) are absolutely killing it in the dating world while lost feminist soy boy types are directionless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:04 PM
7

All women want masculine men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:03 PM
20

“It only works on damaged women” has been a defense against it for years now. I’d say it’s moved beyond that even further to “it works but you’re a scum bag for manipulating someone”. Two things nuked the blue pill. The first was the popularity of the internet where men could share experiences and see how common being forever alone or friend zoned was. What used to be a individuals plight was now a almost shared experience by average men. Similar to how the internet helped kill religion, it did …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 03:03 PM
13

If you’re a high enough smv man you can get women, even feminists, to agree with the red pill. Just have to remove the autistic type language and make them laugh while doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:59 PM
0

I’ve seen it accepted in other subs as well, subs where it would be bashed or “no way that’s true”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:58 PM
3

I’d say it both won and failed. It succeeded in having its ideas permeate the “mainstream” of any discussion board where men congregate. Body building forums, dating forums, male forums of any kind will mention RP tenets even if worded differently Where it failed was with the new generation. Previous generations of coddled beta losers read that, decided they didn’t want to be a beta loser anymore, put in work, and found success The current generation of coddled beta losers read that, decided it …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:57 PM
4

Only a matter of time. Online internet discussions have always been a male space. Made it easy for low smv men to congregate and share ideas (thus TRP was born, with the goal of turning those men high smv) Now as reddit is more mainstream you see not only women but higher smv women do the same. That sub is full of low RMV women basically doing the same thing, trying to boost their value Is interesting to see the shoe on the other foot. Also bet the outcry against it is much more muted because wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:48 PM
3

Age doesnt, but experience does, and the two are heavily correlated. A 22 year old guy that’s been with dozens of women will be more knowledgable about what women want than a 45 year old doctor who’s dated one or two women in his life
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 12:58 PM
1

Your sexual standards change as you change. If you’re a fat ass who gets ripped you WILL not be attracted to the girls you used to like
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:17 AM
21

haha it's pathetic but Ive heard the typical "you are the most thoughtful guy Ive ever met", "you're such boyfriend material", "youre going to make someone very happy someday" blah blah blah during breakups before. ​ ​ Fact is women get off on being disrespected far more than respected
/r/TheRedPill27/10/19 10:18 PM
1

As a man I’m fine with women not approaching. On ask men or other loser subs on reddit you’ll see low smv beta men complain that women should approach more. They shouldn’t and don’t need to What they do need to do is IOIs though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 05:33 PM
5

Only 2 types of men deal with that shit Men who are low RMV (maybe high smv) who have their own mental and maturity issues themselves and thus you have the couple who’s arguing Loudly in public but then being “in love” with each other 4 hours later The other are low smv but somewhat high rmv beta bux guys who just get used and abused by these women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 05:31 PM
1

Made me more self aware as a red piller as how some of us come across - because that sub is clearly full of low RMV trash women dealing with cope. Difference is that sub is about blaming men. TRP, when applied correctly (not always the case), is about BUILDING men. Red pill attracts low SMV men. Female dating strategy attracts low RMV women. Difference is TRP turns those men high SMV. Female dating strategy turns those women into even bigger bitches Takes one second on that thread to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 05:30 PM
1

Vast majority of women don’t understand banter. Similarly, most men don’t understand the subtleties that women engage in
/r/TheRedPill27/10/19 05:25 PM
1

This is obvious to anyone who is actually honest with themselves. Men are more likely to be better storytellers, more charismatic, wider variance in sense of humor, funnier, etc And this isn’t even a brag. Women have built in social equity based on their pussy - they don’t need to develop these traits like men do. Men also are more likely (or perceived to be) to be creepier, socially stunted, weird, etc
/r/TheRedPill27/10/19 05:19 PM
34

Yep. “Oh gross” is 100% she thinks you’re pathetic. Take it from a guy who heard it in his Bp days I shove my girlfriends head to my crotch by her hair and get enthusiastic head on demand. Day that stops is when I know it’s time to start looking elsewhere
/r/TheRedPill27/10/19 05:16 PM
2

Yes 100%. I’ve seen the very same feminist nut job types who will publicly outcry how sexist it is for a man to touch them on the shoulder when asking where the restroom is but also have men cross much bigger lines publicly when they are interested in them Just part of being someone with a penis. Women are very attracted to the assertive guy who’s not afraid to go up to her and take what he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 01:34 PM
2

lol at acting like men are conscious if their behavior. We aren’t. Just in different ways
/r/askTRP25/10/19 05:49 PM
7

Yep as long as you’re fucking her whenever you want then you know what you’re doing is working. It’s like when a woman makes some outlandish request. You may think she wants you to do x (not go on that bachelor party, buy her that new appliance you can’t afford, etc) but she really wants you to stand up to her
/r/askTRP25/10/19 05:48 PM
1

If it’s an app and you book a date for 10+ days out there’s a very good chance she will bail
/r/askTRP25/10/19 05:45 PM
1

Nah I use it to stroke my ego
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 01:26 PM
2

True average as in median dude? Have a couple friends like this They swipe endlessly and will Occasionally match an uggo, rarely match a decent looking girl who won’t message back, and might get someone who is willing to go on a date with them once a month. Average guy probably gets a right swipe rate of 1% I imagine And this isn’t below average, this is a pure median dude
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 01:26 PM
5

Difference between men and women is a woman thinks “cleaning” and creating tasks for herself is productive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 01:21 PM
3

You and me both. My other post on this thread I had my then gf go on date parties and formals with other men because they were “friends” and I was too much of a puss to put a foot down
/r/askTRP24/10/19 10:41 PM
1

Men can only get commitment if they are getting sex Basically a woman had the power until she puts out, then the man has the power because women only do that for guys they are really into while guys do it for anyone. Once they are fucking it’s the guy who can spin her as a plate or decide to add commitment Not always the case but usually
/r/askTRP24/10/19 10:01 PM
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Less conversation is a big one. Shorter communication. Trying to instigate conflict over every tiny thing. Also shit I tolerated in my blue pill days are her going on “not a date” with other guys. Ex: going with another guy to a frat theme party in college as “friends” Yea I was in it bad
/r/askTRP24/10/19 09:59 PM
11

You’re too good for me likely means you are playing your beta traits too strongly. Use it as an opportunity to reevaluate yourself
/r/askTRP24/10/19 09:58 PM
25

Yes, the world moves faster in general. In dating things like social media and apps mean she has more options and dates than ever before It also means when you wait 5 days to text her back you stick out more which can be positive. In terms of game and getting laid this is a good thing - it’s never been easier if you own your shit. In terms of relationships and meaningful LTRs just a further sign of decline. You date a girl for 3 months and begin falling for her? 10-20 years ago that might mean s…
/r/askTRP24/10/19 02:42 PM
1

Face and weight is everything. If a girl has a busted face then she could be perfect in ass and tits department and still not be sexy. If a girls face is cute she just needs to be thin. Doesn’t matter if she’s fit, tall, short, whatever. All in those two things
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 12:15 PM
1

How would you know if they cook or are clean at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 08:50 PM
1

Ever met a millennial?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:57 PM
3

Chest doesn’t matter to men. Face much more important as well as weight
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:39 PM
3

I’m a man in his late 20s. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:39 PM
1

From experience with my guy friends both high and low value
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:35 PM
1

AMALT
/r/askTRP23/10/19 05:35 PM
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Also, I have never ever ever ever once in my life heard a man say “I like so and so, but she can’t cook or she’s sloppy, not relationship material” Unpleasant yes. Money yes. Home keeper? Men don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:12 PM
1

You’re making up your own argument. Pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:06 PM
1

No one finds a woman in a tailored suit attractive. A knee high tight skirt with a low cut blouse on the other hand? Basically club attire
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:05 PM
2

Yea if your personality is shit I agree. But so many women today take pride in being shit cooks, sloppy, etc and still secure commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 02:04 PM
5

Yes a woman can have true unconditional love for you, even if you lose your job, even if you break down and are a mess, even if you get fat and ugly, even if a better looking guy or richer guy comes around. That woman is called your mother. Anyone else? No, it’s all conditional
/r/askTRP23/10/19 01:26 PM
1

Just have to find a guy who thinks you’re beautiful. Plenty out there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:19 PM
1

Lol well above average. Would probably swipe right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:18 PM
12

Yep. You want six pack and 6’ jacked Chad to commit you might need all those things But if you want sex with him, or if you want commitment from a top 20% man you just need to be thin and have a decent face. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:14 PM
1

Lol no, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 01:13 PM
1

Compared to by who? Other women? Themselves? Men don’t give a shit about all that. Cute face and being thin is all you need to secure commitment from a top 20% dude. Don’t need to be fashionable. Don’t need a nice ass. Don’t need tits. Don’t even need to be fit Just thin with an above average face
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 12:58 PM
3

Ah found the reddit soy boy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 05:05 AM
2

And it’s still sexual. Women’s office wear is meant to grab attention
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:53 AM
2

Work for a fortune 100 company. Yoga pants are allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:52 AM
0

Case of wanting their cake and eating it too. Women know this, they enjoy the attention as long as it’s from the right guys. Sorry ladies but pencil skirts are sexual, skirts above the knee are sexual, showing your shoulders off or cleavage is sexual, a short dress is sexual. You don’t want to be objectified then don’t dress like a sex object. Women have many avenues for attire. Men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 04:51 AM
6

lol so wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 10:06 PM
3

Extreme example but true. Key is that some things carry over. If you are charismatic, have confidence, and are physically imposing then you can still gain respect in other circles
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 02:29 PM
14

I’d always assume attraction And make a move but if she’s a legit 9 she likely just has an over the top attention seeking flirt with everyone personality. This does not mean she’s messing with you in a malicious way. But that she just fucking craves attention from men and knows she can get it whenever she wants
/r/askTRP21/10/19 02:07 PM
1

Agree there’s AMALT too. But we aren’t pedestalized like women. While there are differences in behaviors women by and large are the same
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 10:54 PM
2

No. No it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 02:58 PM
8

Lol and what’s wrong with initiating sex? Women want to be forced down and fucked good
/r/askTRP20/10/19 02:55 PM
5

Girls at any age live in the moment
/r/askTRP20/10/19 02:01 AM
18

Any lifter knows that gains is 10% diet, 10% effort, and 80% lighting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/19 07:07 PM
6

Not really. Holding frame, negging, leading, push pull, what have you all dark red pill concepts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 10:50 AM
1

I’m not addicted to pussy, I’m addicted to being the kind of man who can get pussy easily. As the saying goes everything is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 08:07 PM
1

Female attraction and male attraction are different. If your sexy wife comes home crying about an awful day at work you will still want to rail her. If your fat wife comes home bragging about a new promotion you still won’t want to fuck her. If your sexy husband comes home crying about an awful day at work he no longer is sexy. If your fat husband comes home bragging about a new promotion he now is sexy (for a short period at least).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 04:00 PM
4

Women denying the wall is real is like a woman thinking a guy is into her because of her college degree or job lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 03:41 PM
8

10/10 any woman who identifies with this meme is ugly trash
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 04:38 AM
2

And what will happen is someone breaks it off and then she fucks another guy at the office making you a chump
/r/TheRedPill16/10/19 03:11 AM
2

A lot of truth here. Don’t be a sperg and you won’t get me tooed. Only socially inept weirdos have to worry about that Still don’t recommend it unless you don’t see them on day to day
/r/TheRedPill16/10/19 03:07 AM
4

Been burned by hypergamy at the office before. Not worth that shit
/r/TheRedPill16/10/19 03:00 AM
1

I use my own phone and don’t use company wifi either. Sucks but smartest way to not be tracked
/r/askTRP15/10/19 07:52 AM
4

I would get a new job. This shit would and honestly should stick with you, and you will never shake that reputation. People will definitely talk about it behind your back. Also, probably need help of some sort. 100+ pages about a breakup ain’t normal
/r/askTRP15/10/19 03:57 AM
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Yep. Women don’t need that shit. I’ve done legwork in the past only for a guy to swoop in and seal the deal. Don’t waste your time
/r/askTRP14/10/19 11:12 PM
4

Dealbreakers: Has a tattoo. Has an exotic piercing. Smokes cigarettes. Goes out to bars late regularly. Is a vocal liberal. Must haves: Would add to the pot financially. Doesnt have to make a lot of money, teacher is fine, but if so she better have cheap taste Must be fit Must be pleasant to be around Must be willing to try new things
/r/askTRP14/10/19 10:15 PM
5

Lol at thinking majority of men had education and employment opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 10:11 PM
15

20% of the Rabbits have 80% of the rabbit sex. This rabbit isn’t a complete incel, dresses nice, clearly lifts. Black guy though so lower smv Needs to step away from beta bux game
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 04:01 AM
1

Then you’re likely hooking up with low tier women. Gross
/r/askTRP14/10/19 03:57 AM
57

Yep that’s all this is lmao
/r/askTRP12/10/19 07:51 PM
105

“Listen to their actions, not their words right” As you do the same fucking thing lol
/r/askTRP12/10/19 07:51 PM
5

Depends. Is there possibility of future income? Ex: starting your own business? Yes Is it something that has points for being cool? Ex: firefighter? Yes Is it something you’re passionate about? Ex: teaching or working for non profit? Yes Any of the above framed the right way will work for majority of women if you’re other skills are on point. You can still be ambitious even if the end goal isn’t making money, they just usually overlap If your job is say working as a cashier or something then no,…
/r/askTRP12/10/19 08:45 AM
1

Because you don’t have women friends and are likely a phaggot
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 08:40 AM
5

Lmao at believing women don’t shame balding men True delusion here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 08:40 AM
1

Yes you likely lack self awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/19 08:38 AM
1

Lmao this has been proven wrong again countless countless countless times Completely idiotic post
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:26 PM
4

Media used to idolized masculine, confidence, charismatic men. Now we idolize relatable and average men. The difference is the women for both of these didn’t change
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:22 PM
2

This life is death by a thousand cuts and why I encourage either financial independence or entrepreneurship to any RP man. Giving this corporate BS lip service and living a lie just kills you slowly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:05 PM
4

Women don’t want to be seen as equals. They tell themselves that but have no idea what it implies
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:02 PM
0

It’s true. It’s adorable to see women say stuff like “would never fall for that shit”. Yes, you would. I’ve slept with many so called feminists that would believe they are too smart to be “tricked” but go with it anyways. Don’t feel bad ladies, boob jobs work on men just the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/19 06:01 PM
4

Wasn’t trying to brag, just lying evidence at the feet
/r/askTRP09/10/19 09:50 PM
1

If they want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 09:49 PM
2

So this is what the mind of an incel is like
/r/askTRP09/10/19 05:58 PM
3

Guess you’ve never seen statistics on women doctors falling out of the workforce? Women work for the same reasons men do, it’s how we were raised. Only after a decade or so of the corporate bullshit do they often drop out. Though also note that most women don’t have the luxury of a husband who can allow them to do this. Hypergamy will never let a women with a masters degree be a stay at home wife to a tradesman who makes six figures. A banker with the same salary though? Sure
/r/askTRP09/10/19 05:54 PM
1

I found the idolization of people like rollo or other endorsed members to be the height of phaggotry. Have gotten into arguments with fellow TRPers only for responses like “no, you’re wrong, rollo said X” You can’t pretend to be alpha and suck the dick of other dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 03:01 PM
6

The father is simply alpha bucks
/r/TheRedPill09/10/19 02:37 PM
3

Disagree with your conclusion. Omega has been talked about largely here as has ‘the father’ under a different name: Alpha Bucks. Alpha Bucks contribute to society, probably have a sexual past but it’s not their sole focus, are commitment and family focused but still commands respect from others. These are the golden goose for women but are exceptionally rare. They are more or less the hot guy in the office that everyone wants. They also climb the ladder and make good money for their age. Think 6…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/19 02:37 PM
0

Gaslighting is a term used exclusively by the buzzfeed crowd and is indicative of someone with narcissism who will likely try to falsely accuse you of rape one day
/r/askTRP09/10/19 02:23 PM
96

You have a lot to learn and are missing a big component on the red pill: AWALT. Yes, some women are significantly better than others. But EVERY woman will respond positively to the same red pill traits. If they say they don’t they are either coping (ex they can’t get ripped guys so they say they like chubby ones), lying to themselves (“I’m a powerful independent woman I want an equal partner!”), or the much smaller group - women with odd fetish kinks that might light your fat hairy ass. Traits t…
/r/askTRP09/10/19 02:18 PM
3

Try apps like hinge. Less trash
/r/askTRP08/10/19 10:01 PM
5

Most people need sales type training
/r/askTRP08/10/19 10:01 PM
4

The ultimate paradox. Lose body fat, get more definition, LOOK stronger, but are actually weaker and smaller
/r/askTRP08/10/19 10:00 PM
5

Good perspective. Most blue pilled guys have no idea what goes into a mans smv (hence, being blue pilled). They think “I buy her flowers, I wear khakis and polos, I have a good office job, my smv is high” and “that guy is a dumb gym rat, he has a stupid tattoo, he says offensive things to her. His smv is low” I often see this confusion with the beta bucks crowd. On the provider plane they are strong, but the smv plane they are weak (flabby bodies, safe personality, etc)
/r/askTRP08/10/19 09:59 PM
12

Oh man the amount of “good girls” I’ve seen do slut shit abroad with low IQ any club rat is hysterical. Oh your nerdy girl listens to NPR, likes podcasts, and has a 3.9 GPA? She still will get wild for the hot dumbass who has nothing in common with her
/r/askTRP08/10/19 09:56 PM
6

This makes sense intuitively. If your mate is higher smv then you would be fine “trapping” him. Could work in reverse too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 09:53 PM
1

Parents got divorced. Their brothers and sisters all divorced. Their respective parents divorced. All for a number of reasons (affairs, child pressures, money, etc) Despite this I’ve always had an idealized version of love and happy marriage despite no evidence it even exists. Goal was always to have that perfect marriage myself. I think it’s led me to be too “comfortable” in relationships. Had breakups end with the woman saying things like ‘you’re the most thoughtful guy I’ve ever met’ or ‘your…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 04:39 PM
2

Lol at believing what women say vs what they do. Women that say that are just morally posturing. Also, there’s absolutely zero reason for them to say that on a profile. It’s an autistic thing to say anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 06:35 PM
13

It’s a common misconception to believe that pretty girls = bitch, and fat girls = nice Happens with people who lack life experience and get their knowledge from movies/shows/internet (bloopers and redditors are often like this) Other misconceptions: Jocks are jerks Nerds are nice Poor people are good Rich people are mean/bad People hate Americans abroad Etc etc etc
/r/askTRP07/10/19 02:43 PM
2

Went from one sexual partner to over 30 so yes. Smv probably went from a 4 to an 8 in that span as well
/r/askTRP07/10/19 02:39 PM
6

Yep. The pitfall is you’ll have many “plugged in” people say that’s it’s childish to do the above or “play games”. But the truth is subconsciously you have to do it or else they will lose interest The vast majority of men and women lack the self awareness to realize the above
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 02:35 PM
2

I know what dread is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 02:33 PM
1

Yes and no. 80% of men can get in the top 20%. They just don’t want to put the work in. Yes, if every man in that 80% got fit, got a good job, etc then the top 20% would change but don’t expect that to happy anytime soon
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 02:33 PM
1

Same, took a girls virginity who was that age as well. Had the stains on my bed to prove it.
/r/askTRP07/10/19 03:11 AM
10

He’s gotta learn the hard way my friend
/r/askTRP07/10/19 03:09 AM
1

Women generally behave very well in the office. Get them at happy hours or after work socials and it’s a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:02 AM
5

stop asking questions like this and grow a fucking spine
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 03:01 AM
29

Playing hard to get/showing less interest to hold power It sounds dumb to do things like waiting X time before texting back, not texting too long, not being too “easy to get” when hanging out, etc. that stuff sounds like high school BS. But as someone in his late 20s that’s absolutely 100% the game you need to play to have success. I’ve had girls be super into me but by being too easy to be won they lose attraction. Similarly, being distant st times or even dating multiple people at once will ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 02:00 AM
1

Stopped reading at that moment. He’s making the top 20% sound inaccessible. It’s not. MOST men can get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:57 AM
3

Sculpted bodies, movie stars, and the rich aren’t top 15-20%. Those are the top 1%. The guy with a college education, solid job, and goes to the gym 3x a week with a friend group is the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:56 AM
3

If your “I want this to be a relationship” variable is because she’s physically an 8 instead of a 7 then you’re already playing a stupid game Very very few women are worth being in a relationship with. The traits that make one worthy of that aren’t hotness and they won’t be on tinder
/r/askTRP06/10/19 12:48 PM
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And to be fair that is how it should be in many ways. For most office jobs MANY people can do that work. So get someone who is capable but also pleasant to work with
/r/askTRP05/10/19 05:06 PM
10

Yep. Charisma, getting to know people and getting them to like you, staying late and doing all the Bs corporate events and happy hours, etc is what gets you promotions in office jobs
/r/askTRP05/10/19 05:05 PM
15

Based on this post there’s a very real chance you came across as arrogant. In saying that an attractive girl on entry level roles will always have the edge over guys. Especially for jobs like marketing or accounting that anyone can really do, just need a degree
/r/askTRP05/10/19 05:04 PM
6

Red piller here and actually agree with your post above about disenfranchisement. When it comes to sex/dating/etc women may not be less intelligent but they 100% are less self aware of what they are attracted too, and if they are then they are 100% less honest than men. Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 01:33 PM
7

It 100% is intended as a callout. Hence it being “women are hypergamous” and not “people are”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/19 01:29 PM
4

While it’s certainly not impossible I do have my doubts at the credibility of someone receiving IOIs from check in girls at the gym also being a guy that would even consider a sex doll
/r/askTRP05/10/19 01:22 PM
30

Lmao and daddy issues
/r/askTRP05/10/19 12:45 AM
1

Lol no the wall is very real and lying to women about it is the same as telling men to be nice or be yourself. Does more harm than good That said 25 is safe, but about time to start dating with intent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 05:51 PM
2

Music festival fans Stays out late (past 2am) on a weekly basis Feminist
/r/askTRP04/10/19 01:56 PM
1

Nothing wrong with pursuing an LTR mate. For all it’s trouble there are also benefits. Just remember to stay red pilled that she will leave/disrespect you if you begin letting up, and to always be improving
/r/askTRP04/10/19 01:51 PM
2

Lmao at thinking a mans age has anything to do with his smv.
/r/askTRP04/10/19 11:29 AM
6

Once you realize a journalist intentionally misrepresents an area you have a strong understanding of, you realize they do it for every area as well Currently as is this is happening more frequently on the left
/r/TheRedPill04/10/19 11:27 AM
3

When you’re starting out you should approach everyone. Making small talk out of nowhere and having real conversations with anyone will make it that much easier when it’s a cute girl
/r/askTRP03/10/19 09:38 PM
3

Yea the girls Op is talking about are very very low smv
/r/askTRP03/10/19 08:20 PM
2

What? Women love bullies. Women know how that guy treats her compared to other men is different
/r/askTRP03/10/19 08:20 PM
2

Real men and corporate world is an oxymoron
/r/askTRP03/10/19 08:19 PM
2

The women the nice guy accountants are with are higher tier both in looks and status than jail birds don’t kid yourself
/r/askTRP03/10/19 08:19 PM
7

A few reasons. Criminals / bullies are by definition either Alpha or Sigma - they don’t care about societies rules and have confidence to do what they want. They also aren’t at the bottom of the male hierarchy since to be a bully you need someone beneath you. My high school oneitis was this sweet Christian girl who dated one of the biggest asshole bullies in the school. Learn that personality means nothing to women. Women don’t care how their man treats other men as long as he treats her “well”.…
/r/askTRP03/10/19 08:14 PM
1

No i didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:50 PM
-1

Haha yep. Granted you can have a well paying white collar job and generally hit 40 hours so depends on what distinguished would count as Something like banker, doctor, lawyer? Not happening
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:50 PM
1

Usually have work history of jobs well beyond 40 hours, or often exceed it with research. But agree the work life balance on it is good
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:49 PM
0

What? Not anything white collar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 06:49 PM
3

Been out of school for 5 years but certainly didn’t see it then
/r/TheRedPill03/10/19 06:46 PM
9

Very good answer. This is the blunt honesty guys need to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 12:33 AM
13

Probably ~1-3% of the male population, closer to a top tier man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 08:48 PM
1

Hahaha this completely
/r/askTRP02/10/19 06:59 PM
1

Obviously. That doesn’t change anything I said
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:50 PM
0

Not quite. The power shift happens in part because of more resources and confidence for men, but also because women’s value and power plummets during the same span. It’s all relative
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 06:49 PM
2

Jokes aside you see a lot of unhappy relationships and even marriages because one party didn’t have the balls to break up the relationship and it just went on until the logic of “if I break up now I threw 3 years away” comes in I have several friends that are in situations like this. Breaking up is tough but it’s part of being an adult
/r/askTRP02/10/19 03:49 PM
1

Nope. Men are fine as long as they are attracted to her. Now if the hottest came onto them it’s a different story
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 03:48 PM
5

The term gymcel exists for a reason. Lifting is important for a ton of reasons. Discipline, routine, building something, health, confidence, etc. but you can quickly go to the bodybuilding message boards and see plenty of jacked forever alone types. You need the game and mental aspect as well
/r/askTRP02/10/19 02:43 PM
5

205 at 6’3 still is far from big lol
/r/askTRP02/10/19 02:36 PM
4

The entire point of self improvement is to never be content with your achievements. Not to look at other shit hole countries and pat yourself on the back for being just mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 02:08 PM
2

One of my problems here for sure. She wants a girls trip? Tell her no, if she doesn’t respect you she isn’t LTR material. You want a guys trip? If she says no she isn’t LTR material. It’s silly
/r/askTRP02/10/19 01:52 PM
1

It’s relative to the environment, but they want the leader of the pack. And if that pack is all leaders they will only want the top of it, and if that pack is all losers a leader will emerge and they’ll want that guy. It’s hilarious tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 01:34 PM
3

Part of why feminism is so toxic. It’s the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 11:48 AM
1

Aka maintaining frame. Glad years of red pill taught us how to handle this shit
/r/TheRedPill02/10/19 02:27 AM
17

Yep. Treat it like you would a woman saying “I will not be breaking up with you at this time”.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/19 02:25 AM
2

Attempted * insult
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:36 PM
0

Spot on again. Trying , and failing, to even the playing field
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:35 PM
2

Yep this is correct. As someone who’s had life experience I’ve been in areas where unattractive guys got laid easily because of hypergamy and areas where top tier men struggled because of the power dynamics Making everyone good looking would just move the needle to other areas
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:34 PM
1

So wrong. Top 20% is relative. In a good looking pool then other areas matter
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 08:33 PM
5

Dating app and relationship subs about to get a darker shade of red
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:34 PM
1

Yep. Any sub that is remotely conservative will be banned. Any sub that isn’t will remain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 03:21 PM
5

I had this too with crushes or girls I dated and was in love with. Like don’t get me wrong, could absolutely fuck them - but would never masturbate to them. Almost felt guilty or weird if I did
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 09:21 PM
11

By other women though, not by men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/19 03:41 AM
12

whatever you do, DO NOT make this decision because of money or pussy. Youll be miserable
/r/askTRP30/09/19 02:35 AM
1

Youll learn to resent them eventually, as you dont see why other people dont want to improve themselves. They will resent you too, for your progress. And it will build naturally. ​ Ex: He invites you over on a Friday night to smoke weed until 2am and hang out. You say you cant, he asks why, you have X actual event of importance in the morning. Enough things like that and he will dislike you, but oh well
/r/askTRP30/09/19 02:33 AM
1

Nah, I'm pretty fair. Top 5-10% of men for sure. Cant speak for actual models but have easily had girls go from all over me to interest lost just based on small behavioral things in the past
/r/TheRedPill29/09/19 04:55 PM
2

OP in the link is just posting cope for the average chumps on reddit. Some good advice, but nothing new. Basically discredited himself with the first bullet point. I was in my early 20s when tinder launches and at the time only had sex with one person my entire life. Dating apps helped me refine and sharpen my dating abilities, while interacting with sooooo many more women that I never would have the confidence to offline.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/19 10:45 AM
0

Fucking wrong dude. I am that tall hot guy and have lost women by displaying beta traits
/r/TheRedPill28/09/19 06:45 PM
3

Yea agree with this. If you frame your mind to think others are beneath you and constantly judge them for it then you’ll also be framing your mind to think others are better than you when you meet those who exceed you on those same parameters
/r/askTRP28/09/19 06:43 PM
2

Wrong. Median household income is less than 60k. That’s household.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/19 04:27 PM
2

Precisely. Made same callout in my post. Women can get sexually attracted to a guy they weren’t initially physically attracted to based on a number of factors
/r/TheRedPill28/09/19 04:26 PM
3

To be honest the entire foundation of this analysis is built on bullshit. Yes, the 80/20 rule applies to online dating and RAW physical attraction. Meaning you pick a guy, put him in front of a woman, and add no other context they’ll only find 20% above average in looks. That doesn’t mean there is dissatisfaction in relationships involving not top 20% men. Anyone whose been here before online dating and apps took off will tell you the importance of charisma, maintaining frame, being decisive, be…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/19 04:18 PM
2

Those women are high RMV and will have high competition Believe it or not “being nice” as a guy means jack shit to a woman. Be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:41 PM
18

Fat women aren’t nicer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:40 PM
2

Absolutely true. Growing up my father made excuses for everything. All it shows is that he didn’t have control of any aspect of his life I make excuses for nothing. Late to a meeting? It’s not traffic, it’s that you didn’t leave early enough - or likely didn’t care overall Once you realize how much agency you have you can impact your own world and the world around you, even bending it to your will
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/19 02:39 PM
3

Go owner occupied in a multi family. Can get financing for less than 5% down. Look for Duplexes, triplexes, or 4 units. After a year move out, get another one, and do it again
/r/askTRP28/09/19 05:22 AM
35

Haha I’ve fucked many “this would never work on me” types. That’s the thing about women - they can’t control their biological imperative
/r/TheRedPill28/09/19 04:17 AM
6

Not really. 4 years cash flow post college, real estate prices are high but easy to get in. Can get 2-3 units a year for under 10k total. If you wait to make 6 figures you’ll likely be in your 30s and could have less flexibility to take this risk
/r/askTRP28/09/19 12:08 AM
4

26
/r/askTRP27/09/19 09:55 PM
4

Most celebrities, sure. Him? By all accounts no
/r/askTRP27/09/19 09:55 PM
41

Jackman just seems to be a different breed of niceness IMO, something like stability and companionship probably mean more to him than just looks. Some people are wired differently, even if their smv is exceptional
/r/askTRP27/09/19 09:50 PM
4

People don’t get rich from working at corporations lmao
/r/askTRP27/09/19 09:47 PM
14

Disagree on the last paragraph bigtime. Don’t make close to 100k and have been gobbling up rental properties for the last few years
/r/askTRP27/09/19 09:47 PM
-1

Cliffs?
/r/askTRP27/09/19 09:46 PM
1

Bigger pockets - great to get into real estate and helpful community
/r/askTRP27/09/19 09:45 PM
1

I know plenty of tall white low smv guys. Davidson has game and would have no problem getting chicks, but can’t deny he’s ugly and sounds like a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 09:12 PM
1

I’m a big guy. Got a bit carried away
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:40 PM
3

Lmao most likely this. Especially since there was no second date. It’s quite possible that you go a first 1 or 2 dates without a shit test but they’ll come. Examples of ones OP may have received and didn’t realize it: “So you date a lot do you?” “You on these apps pretty often?” “Bet you take other girls here” “You’re only wearing a t shirt on this date?” “Oh you live in the suburbs? How do you have fun out there?” Or any number of random ass things. If you give legitimate answers you failed
/r/askTRP27/09/19 04:34 PM
4

If there wasn’t a 2nd date then he sure ain’t Chad. But if he got a date then he ain’t a beta in their eyes (yet). Most likely what happened was he didn’t realize shit tests when they happened
/r/askTRP27/09/19 04:32 PM
1

Have slept with a number of feminist women and always laugh at how they try to go against their biology when it comes to attraction but fail so hard
/r/askTRP27/09/19 04:28 PM
5

It can be pretty damn close. Someone who is 60-80% bigger than you can beat you without training
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:06 PM
5

Martial arts means dick when the other person is twice your size. Had an ex want to test all her self defense training on me (and she was very fit) but the second I got on top of her she couldn’t physically move me and was legitimately surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:05 PM
0

Yes and no. It is very similar to DND where if you gain in certain areas you’ll be hurt in other areas. But you can add more points to the total Can’t speak from it in terms of martial arts. But as someone who has gotten into marathon running, endurance contests, power lifting, swimming, sports, etc at different stages of life things that help in some will erode others. That said by being active you can add more points to the pile so even though I’m big and heavy I can run longer and quicker tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 04:03 PM
1

slept with more than I can count
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 03:32 AM
6

Good callout on the real alphas don’t attack people. You can be high on the dominance hierarchy and attack other men, but that comes from a big position of insecurity. the biggest alphas I know are friendly, yet firm. They don’t care if they get approval or not. They have an opinion and stick to it - usually when you hold frame other weaker people will fall into it. Not to get political but this was a big reason for trumps success. Most politicians get caught doing something and apologize for it…
/r/TheRedPill26/09/19 06:24 PM
1

Despite my low smv growing up I have an above average face, am tall, full head of hair, intelligent, and come from a good family in terms of finances.
/r/askTRP26/09/19 05:47 PM
3

Black men only have success with high tier white women if they are athletes, never seen any other way
/r/TheRedPill26/09/19 05:46 PM
7

Yep. Women rely on cues of other women to tell them a guy has value. Men don’t need other men to know a girls hot
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:41 PM
5

Agree with this. Past boyfriend was chubby and short? Doesn’t bother me. Past boyfriend was good looking but covered in tribal tattoos and did drugs? That’s a concern
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:40 PM
6

Pete Davidson is riding the Ariana Grande ex wave to some primo puss. He’s by all accounts a low smv individual, especially in the celebrity space, but if a hot woman wants him other women will want to find out why. As for me, call it insecurity but I want to look at my girls ex’s and be the best she’s had. If she dated a fat slob I wouldn’t really care, just means she will want me more I think it’s reversed with women. They see your ex was attractive then they want to mate guard you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 05:35 PM
1

Exercise, style, social skills, hobbies
/r/askTRP26/09/19 11:26 AM
1

Fair enough. I was able to get from below average to top 5% but had things working for me
/r/askTRP26/09/19 02:56 AM
1

Fat is common in south, Midwest, and anywhere rural. Exception is major cities and places that are active like the Rockies
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:19 AM
1

God that buzzfeed article is disgusting. Promoting such unhealthy lifestyles. Just because the majority of Americans are slobs doesn’t mean that’s a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:18 AM
0

Lol just lol at thinking it’s men who’s standards are too high
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 11:53 PM
2

Good call on father. If you seem weak or avoidant it’ll make him trust you a lot less.
/r/askTRP25/09/19 11:15 PM
0

Top 20% is very easy to get into, assuming you aren’t noticeably short
/r/askTRP25/09/19 10:46 PM
10

The vast majority of them are blue pilled. They don’t believe the 80/20 rule and wouldn’t if you showed them. Just like how so many people are religious solely because they were raised that way or nothing more They were raised to follow orders, be a good little boy, get a pat on the head, and maybe marry one day if they are lucky. If they aren’t then the promise of eternal love is out there to keep them foolishly looking. So many people don’t understand the agency they have in life. They are bor…
/r/askTRP25/09/19 10:46 PM
1

Wrong boyo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 10:22 PM
1

You can also overtrain, which makes you need to eat more. If you’re tall already that means eating more will become basically impossible. I didn’t get good gains until I went to the gym LESS and did less cardio. Went from 6x a week with two a days 3x a week to 4x a week and active rest on off days
/r/askTRP25/09/19 07:38 PM
1

You need to eat more, period. At your stage as a rail thin newb certain techniques or rep amounts will not help you differentiate, that’s for after the noob gains have been reached As for now focus on the different major compound lifts. 4x8 is good beginner stuff. And eat eat eat.
/r/askTRP25/09/19 07:36 PM
-1

Women focus more on social acceptance, men on things/ideas. Social media is dominated by women Forums are dominated by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 07:16 PM
1

Whatever you believe. Fact is a jacked body that’s tall will make any face look good. Michael Phelps is ugly as fuck. But he looks good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 07:13 PM
1

Lol and you think that means anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 07:12 PM
1

They’ll pay what it takes to move and they know that will require more money Outright lying will hurt you since many employers check
/r/TheRedPill25/09/19 07:12 PM
3

Rape is like racist. Used to have meaning but it has been eroded so much by certain groups that it sadly no longer does
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 12:48 AM
0

Muscle is body shape you mouthbreather
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/19 12:47 AM
5

Even better just say you’re up for a promotion in the next few months where you’ll be making X (that 10%), so if you are to move you’ll need X more (that 15%) So if they ask to verify income you’re still good
/r/TheRedPill25/09/19 12:25 AM
3

The start of this post read like a Wall Street oasis forum post and was about to call it out for BS. As someone who went to a top tier business school program and know plenty of consultants and bankers their lives are not enviable. Well paid, yes, but still drones on call 24/7 Agree with the rest though. The rat race is pathetic. The more you get immersed into your company, the networking events, happy hours, politics, etc the more nose down you are on a path that will never end. Kiss ass, deal …
/r/TheRedPill25/09/19 12:17 AM
2

Probably am by some definition. Definitely a rape victim more times though based on those same definitions. So in the black overall
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 11:32 PM
2

Yes, women like yourself have no idea what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 11:31 PM
0

Other accounts disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 11:30 PM
4

Both were drunk. Girls and guys can go from awake to passed out during sex. It’s happened to me on both ends before. Take it you lack sexual experience
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 09:17 PM
1

100% wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:55 PM
-2

Nope. At a party together, dancing together, making out. Plenty of IOIs right? They leave the party together willingly. Still good. Then while they are together on the ground she passes out while he’s fingering her. Is he in the wrong? Sure. Is that worth be villainized how he has? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:48 PM
11

That’s one date bud. Second, third, so on. Women want to be led. That means get used to leading
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:46 PM
8

Ahhhhh soy boys
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:44 PM
43

lol at this comment. Men provide 80%+ the entertainment in the courting phase. We assume shit from you all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:42 PM
0

Tell that to Brock Turner
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:40 PM
5

Yep. A woman will rarely be the one to do any work here. If it happens or not it’s up to the man Shitty spot for guys to be in during the me too era but oh well, nothing risk nothing gain
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:40 PM
1

Oh man TONS. A legitimate kind/good man will turn off or annoy most women. These things include: saying I love you more than her texting frequently, even if not needy introducing to friends or family quickly being “won” too easy. If a guy acts like you two are exclusive after 1-2 dates it will turn women off even if they deny it (lol) buying gifts like flowers regularly wanting her equal input on a range of decisions (from where to eat to vacations) These are things that are associated with good…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 08:20 PM
0

Obese women can’t get sex from chad don’t push that drivel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 04:51 PM
6

Being a jacked tall guy is the ultimate combination to getting pussy, it’s incredible
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 04:50 PM
9

Too big is impossible if lean and natural You’ll never get to the point where you are “too big” without steroids. Unless you’re a power lifter in that case you look like a fat stump
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 04:50 PM
3

Rape and real Sexual assault already is a non issue, that currently is being made to look more common that it is by liberals/feminists to weaponize it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 04:48 PM
1

I have no issues with women mate, know how they work quite well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:37 PM
2

5’5 is tiny for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:36 PM
2

It’s because people would rather be nice than helpful if that help means giving hard truths
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:35 PM
2

To an extent, maybe. But someone who makes self depreciating jokes all the time is a fucking loser and will repel women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:33 PM
5

Lmao blue pill advice. Feel so sad for guys that legit take advice on these loser reddit subs. “Get more confident” and “put your height on your bio” will result in zero matches and no progress. What’s red pilled is this. Some men simply aren’t meant to reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:30 PM
5

Lol the way you talk
/r/askTRP24/09/19 11:53 AM
0

Would this be winning the battle but losing the war? You’ll die a slow death as you do this with work, your spouse, etc
/r/askTRP24/09/19 11:50 AM
1

AWALT bro. Fucked plenty of nerds in my day.
/r/askTRP24/09/19 11:48 AM
15

And also don’t care if she thinks you’re beta, she’s a coworker. It’s hard to display alpha traits all the time, especially when you’re learning, it’s another reason I advise against dating coworkers. You have to be “on” all the time Do agree though from personal experience. It’s very easy to go from alpha to beta. It’s very difficult to change perception from beta to alpha
/r/askTRP24/09/19 11:47 AM
1

Being assumed promiscuous is assumed preselection even if there isn’t evidence for it at the time
/r/askTRP24/09/19 11:45 AM
12

You're a fucking moron - very likely a teenager. At least I hope so.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 02:54 AM
37

lol that last paragraph is so fucking true
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 02:25 AM
15

A LOT of bull shit in this post. Look, I'm not going to endorse unicorn hunting, but I'm also not going to sit back and watch stats be misapplied either. 50/50 in general - yes. When you account for education level, waiting to get married, and income for the type of people that post here then that divorce number PLUMMETS. ​ Now, that's not to say TRP is wrong on marriage. Even if that rate is 10-20% divorce those are shit odds. And that's not saying the other 80% of marriages are happy. In fact …
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 02:21 AM
1

If you've been in enough groups you will see that an alpha will ALWAYS rise. You can go to a comic con and pluck 10 of the biggest losers there, put them in another country for a month, and one or two will eventually end up being the one driving the bus. Sure, they will suck ass at it but will still become a leader. ​ ​ Agree there's a leader mentality but also believe that it's relative
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 02:14 AM
1

Yep. If that man is ruthless to everyone else but her then that's a "good man"
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 02:09 AM
1

Agree and disagree on the women are too stupid crap, because I dont think men are much better. ​ When a woman is with a guy, other guys KNOW if that dude is a good person or an absolute cunt - the woman has no idea. Similarly, when a woman is with a man other women can smell her intentions a mile away. Both genders get played at this
/r/TheRedPill24/09/19 01:51 AM
1

It's not getting any individual pussy that's important, but it's getting it in general. A mans SMV is arguably his most important trait. Not his height, his income, his bench press, his IQ, etc. Why? Because for men SMV incorporates EVERYTHING. Women wanting to fuck you will always give you respect
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:12 AM
2

Same way that devoting time to making money and wealth frees you from it. You dont want to care about money? You can either be a bum (MGTOW) or wealthy to do whatever you want (applied Red Pilled principles). Either way it takes a minor obsession with it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:10 AM
2

Chad buys gifts. Those gifts are handcuffs and a blindfold for a 3 hour fuck session
/r/askTRP24/09/19 01:09 AM
2

lol low smv asian phaggot
/r/askTRP24/09/19 01:07 AM
2

Yep. When out in public with my woman people turn heads and comment on how good of a couple we are. Two very attractive people so it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:06 AM
1

Doesnt seem worth doing all that for a bit of pussy? Son. Every action taken by men is for pussy. Whether they know it or not, everything is about pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/19 01:05 AM
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