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| 3 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?They won't take responsibility and thats what pisses off so many men. If these women had the same seriousness of finding a husband at 25 as they do at 33, most of these women would have been long since married by their 30s. They should just own it and not flip it like men are the problem when they wasted their best years on screwing around and having their fun. They can't do that and then dictate that men are wrong for doing the same thing during the time we choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?I was trying to be serious with too many exes in my 20s and THEY always thought they could do better. Most didn't, but my point is that they weren't serous until they were and when they got to that point, they had an expectation that the guys should be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 07:02 AM |
| 6 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?Thats why I don't waste my time caring for what women my age think. They hold the line that supports what is best for them NOW, not what makes sense or what is logically consistent with what they have done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 07:50 AM |
| 2 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?Im over 30 and I have seen it happen with a bunch of women I have known since at least their late teens until the present. Most of these women are not enjoying dating compared to their 20s. I can think of least 5 of them I know personally who in the last year have made comments to some effect of 'men who don't want to settle down are losers'. Most of these same women had more than a few hookups and fun for years. I can say I was shocked when I started hearing these same women who had no problem … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:46 AM |
| 5 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?What is any different for men doing that in their 30s compared to women doing it in their 20s? I find it strange that women especially are willing to criticize men for not wanting to settle down in their 30s because they want to have fun dating around, while these same women rarely will show similar contempt for women in their 20s who do that. It comes across as very self-service and hypocritical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?I don't think it really matters all that much. Im over 30 and the women are looking for husbands and they don't want average guys. They want dudes who have achieved something and bring in something financially. I think a decent percentage of single 30 year olds are in this mindframe, meaning that these women are disproportionally chasing the top 10% of men. The number of women chasing these men is fight higher than the number of these men available. Many of these men are dating younger women, wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:39 AM |
| 5 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?It's even more competition because women are far more choosy than men are when it comes to relationships. Most of the single women I know in my 30s are looking for top 10% men at the very least they are willing to tolerate, and I mean they will think that a 90th percentile guy is them 'settling' while they actually want a top 1 or 2% guy. It makes the real competition that much worse by then because the women remaining tend to be pickier because less picky women are more likely to end up married… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:34 AM |
| 4 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?Thats kind of the point that many of us as men won't say because the women take it so badly. I've been there where you date a woman and see how it goes and she will sleep with you on the first or second date and then have a sexual relationship with you for some time. During this time I am seeing this person and determining if I want a committed relationship where I have to avoid other options and publicly align with this woman and all the expectations that come with it as everyone around her wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:31 AM |
| 8 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?I've found that most of the women my age (30s) are looking for relationships and husbands, but will not come out with this at first because they don't want to come on too strong. They sleep with you on the first or second date and then play it casual for a bit and then try and transition it to a relationship. It's actually often subtle and easy to miss. It's kind of frustrating because these same women are then not happy if the guy says he thought it was just casual and not wanting a relationshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:28 AM |
| 16 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?Exactly. They feel age and their clocks ticking and know their dating options are not going to improve so they attack men in their 30s if they are not ready to do what women want regarding being ready to settle down now. As a guy in my 30s, I am consistently surprised by women my age I have known since my early 20s who went from having no problem with hookup culture in their 20s to now calling men their age now disgusting for doing the exact same thing these women did years earlier. Its actually… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:24 AM |
| 3 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?I think it is more about them having seen the world for what it is and now live their lives based on that. We've seen how dating and society work in our 20s while we were working our asses off trying to get ahead in something. We get to our 30s having achieved some goals and walk into a work that treats us very different. We realize that we really are not that much different than our 20s, yet people and women now act like we have completely changed into something else. We see that there is nothi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:21 AM |
| 4 | Many TRPers in here have a high external locus of control, and are hypocritical about it.I agree that too many men on here are guys who have never had a girlfriend and many have no or almost no dating history. I generally don't understand what guys like this can bring to a conversation that they have no understanding or experience in other than hearing it from other second hand accounts. It would be like someone who can't cook instant noodles trying to discuss the complex aspects of cooking find dining quality meals. I think most of the complaining by men and women is by those that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:27 AM |
| – | The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material womenI have no idea who these men were, I just saw them come and go or their car outside her house from time to time. I cannot imagine these guys were high class or successful to put up with her for any amount of time. I also have no idea what these men wanted out of dating her. Maybe it was just physical or someone to help avoid having to be alone. Not sure. Regardless, some guy would seemingly always be with her even though she was a disaster and probably the worst excuse for a mother I have ever s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:18 AM |
| – | The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material womenPretty much. I mean don't have such massive deficits and personality shortfalls that they make life so difficult and unpleasant to interact with the person. Nobody is perfect but expecting better than the worst is not unreasonable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:12 AM |
| – | The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material womenI think OP is unstable, or at least has ideas that have little basis in reality 'Unreasonably difficult' is where a person is just never happy or nothing is ever good enough. The person who goes out to a decent place for dinner and gets a nice meal but still finds some small detail to complain about and act like it could always be better. Also someone with a terrible attitude or entitlement complex that nobody can disagree with her and tell her that she is wrong. Unreasonably unstable would mean… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:10 AM |
| – | The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material womencompletely agree. Its a problem that even these pathetically low standards are difficult to fill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:06 AM |
| 14 | The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material womenThe OP expectations were a little high. Should have been: Don't be unreasonably difficult Don't be massively overweight Don't be unreasonable unstable Don't have a horrible personality Don't be overly promiscuous Even modifying OP's description, I wonder how many would meet these far more reasonable things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 07:10 AM |
| -5 | The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material womenEven women who fall short of these pathetically low expectations can get men. I think of a neighbor from years ago who was an unstable alcoholic with 3 kids. She was probably on drugs too, yet she always had some guy she was dating or having a relationship with who would put up with her in spite of her life being a train wreck. She wasn't hideous or decent looking either, and not that overweight. In this case her 'best qualities' were not being hideous and fat, and almost nothing else. She didn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 07:07 AM |
| 1 | Women often confuse drama for passion and that's why they get bored of stabilityBeen there done that. I wish these people would have the self awareness to know and admit they don't actually want or enjoy a stable relationship. These women are usually the types who always play the victim card. They can justify it as the guy who supposedly treated her like crap as just being the bad guy, when in reality she was perfectly happy with that and got what she wanted in the relationship (or situation ship) I had an ex who played me like that. Complained that an ex just used her and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Women often confuse drama for passion and that's why they get bored of stabilityI've seen so many cases of where the woman claims she hates idiots and bad dudes and wants someone stable who treats her better, only to find that she doesn't actually like that guy when she finds and dates him. There are way more toxic emotionally unstable women out there than our society is willing to admit. These women like the bullshit and will go to any length to hide this fact because they don't want to admit to themselves or others that this is who they actually are and what they actually… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 01:27 AM |
| – | Attending a rap concert was a humbling experience as an average guy.I knew a few dudes like that. They always dressed very nicely while they lived in run down houses and could barely afford to put gas in the tank. Each time I was shock to find out their homes relatively to how well they dressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 01:31 AM |
| – | How Do You Think Pornograpy and Instagram Have Affected The Dating MarketI think social media (Instagram) has played a far bigger role than porn. Porn has existed for a long time, with the only difference that people can get it with their phone or computer anywhere. Social media has made people more visually oriented because when scrolling through instagram you see photos or videos. It makes people think of relationships to an extent about how this person would look with her on social media- women are more active on social media than men. I think of this girl I was t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 03:08 AM |
| – | Would you rather date someone with low standards or high standards?I think the cheating conclusions you make are not exactly valid because cheating has to do with much more personality aspects than high or low standards. I would say constructs such as 'loyalty' 'ability to emotionally connect with a partner' ' level of entitlement'- would be much stronger predictors of cheating than simply having high or low standards. I would rather have someone with moderate standards. People with really low standards tend to not have much ambition or drive to better themselv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 03:01 AM |
| 1 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeIt's seeing the world through very different lenses. Increasingly I see less and less point trying to even explain things to them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:49 AM |
| 1 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeI'm in a long term relationship and get out plenty. I have no need to cope with anything. Using those terms is simply a way to define and explain things for the sake of not going on endless to describe every nuance of each term. It is like rating someone 1-10. It is obviously imperfect and imprecise, but it is an effective way of quickly communicating that someone is desirable or not. In this case SMV means basically the options of whoever are declining with time. It's semantics entirely using a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:47 AM |
| 1 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeI also was a slow learner when in college. I never heard of the black pill or any pills at that point, but I improved in many things and over time those gains promote more gains and success. I think many black pill people would come to be shocked if they went through a similar arc in their own lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:41 AM |
| 1 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeLook at Rollo Tomassi, he has been married for over 25 years. For what it's worth, I would say his writings are the best for TRP because he attempts to put a scientific basis behind the ideas using behaviorism, evolutionary psychology, and social psychology. I put a link to his site below. He has great articles and they are in depth and attempt to actually make sense of RP ideas from a logical perspective. Link below I am RP and generally relationship oriented. The ideas are very useful in terms… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 02:39 AM |
| 1 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeThey do care. Find a feminist you know in real life and make a nonaggressive statement that disagrees with one of the foundational tenants of feminism and see how that goes. Tell her that the wage gap is bullshit because they have shown time and time again that men and women working the exact same jobs make the same amount of money. I'll bet a bit of money that she will care, just like I bet the ones here who get unglued if anyone dares disagree with her feminist ideals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:26 AM |
| 2 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeBP guys practically are feminists. I rarely have met a BP person that didn't either say they were feminist or effectively hold most of the positions that feminism preaches. These guys reject any notion that women date strategically and are not always making decisions out of some ideal or kindness in their own hearts. I asked one of my married BP friends once about it regarding a relationship I was in. I made the point that if he and I were less successful or had less going for ourselves than we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:24 AM |
| 1 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeIt doesn't change the fact that most guys who think they are hot shit, and most women who think they are 10s are not actual those things. The stupid part is many people try and use language and act like they are those things as if saying certain things somehow magically manifests it into existence. Reality doesn't care what we think or feel. These same men and women who think they are amazing will go out and find out the truth that they are not amazing because people who are actually amazing hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:19 AM |
| – | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeI get frustrated with BP people. The women with those flairs are ridiculous most of the time. Talk about something like hypergamy or women wanting to date up in looks or money, and these BP flared women will say things like 'you can't judge a woman and just know what her level is because some amazing guy might also think she is amazing'. These posters act like the idea of beauty and attractiveness is so esoteric mystery that nobody can even understand or describe in tangible concrete ways. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:16 AM |
| – | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeI think it's more about RP guys looking at reality for what it is and giving guys more accurate information they can take and use as they figure. Many RP guys are married; a truth that most people attacking RP don't acknowledge. I think BP guys just don't really seem to worry about the how's and why's of dating. They also seem to reject the transactional nature of relationships from women's perspectives because they get often get very defensive of the idea that women choose men for what we bring… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:11 AM |
| – | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeI agree with the toxic ideas of the black pill. So many guys don't understand that just because things haven't worked out doesn't mean they will always be that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:02 AM |
| 5 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeThe few most unhinged nutcases believe those things. The vast majority of RP guys are not insane. Any guy who thinks that taking all rights away from women is a good idea is a lunatic. Thats probably below 5% of guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:47 AM |
| 8 | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeMy issue is that Blue Pill guys seem to reject the concept that women are doing and acting in ways that benefit them (at the expense of men) so as a result men should see this for what it is and look out for ourselves. Most red pill people are reasonable enough to realize that hypergamy is not happening for all women. Older you get, the higher amount of single women are doing it because the women with non-entitled standards are far more likely to be married or in long term relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:45 AM |
| – | It does feel like the Blue Pillers here are committed to making men feel like they're never the prizeI think Blue pill guys live in a different universe that people who advocate for the red pill. My many conversations with friends that have blue pill ideas has led me to believe that they have no concept of sexual market value, and have no concept of the idea that women are doing what they can to get the best they can for themselves; and that it makes sense for men to do the same thing. These BP guys are astonished by things like talking about the 'epiphany phase' (link below) where women change… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menTroll. Goodbye | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menPlease go take your medication | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menAre you okay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 01:38 AM |
| – | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeI agree. These women struggle when they age and their looks fade or they gain weight, because they have depended on their looks and sexuality to attract men. They will lose their beauty in time, and they are also screwed in the sense that they are addicted to the short term thrill that is not what a long term relationship or marriage is defined as. They may marry because of wanting a family and kids, or long term security, but I don't think most of these types will be either happy or faithful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 01:38 AM |
| – | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeI completely agree. I think the issue is that many of the women are not honest with their intentions. I have met women on apps that I wasn't overly into where we talked and had good conversation to where she wanted to come over or myself come over and have sex. I have told these women afterwards that I'm just seeing what is out there and not looking for anything serious considering my life has been very busy. If it goes well, I am okay with seeing her again and continuing the dynamic. I have bee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 01:34 AM |
| – | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeMet a few of them. They are love addicts who love the thrill of the early phase, only to get bored and move on to the next guy who can bring that rush and excitement. The worse part is that as the guy you don't see this until it is too late where she is already moved on (regardless of if she broke up with you yet) and there is nothing you can do to keep her excited anymore | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 01:23 AM |
| – | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeI've had this experience where I've dated a very attractive woman and the sex can be great, while the other aspects of her personality are lacking to say the least. Most of the higher end attractive women I have dated have also been the most unpleasant personalities. I got the feeling that they were like this because they were very pretty and pretty women will always have options. If her terrible personality made a guy leave her, she could get another one in a blink of an eye. They can be selfis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 01:21 AM |
| 2 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.They did get laid. It took more of their time and energy to do so because they couldn't just do it on a phone in their spare time. There was an anecdote someone said years ago about professional athletes now get more sleep than a generation ago because their ability to get laid and meet women is so much easier now with apps and instagram compared to the past where they usually had to go to a club or bar to meet women. Dating apps make easier, and more efficient, what was already happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 12:14 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Dating and committing are 2 very different things. A guy dating a woman means about nothing. A guy introducing a woman he is dating to his friends and family, means a lot more. I guy willing to give a title to a woman of girlfriend and posting about her on his social media also means a lot more. I didn't say women had to sleep around to get men. I was saying that when dating a guy who she wants get in a more committed context, women will often sleep with him faster than they want to if she feels… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 12:12 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Got you. I didn't get that you were referring to alcohol. And absolutely it will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menFunny how that works out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menIronic that the person commenting on that had almost no mental maturity herself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 12:05 AM |
| 2 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menYour take is a little ridiculous. Most of the time the 2nd best guy in a group is not 5 tiers below the top guy because guys in social groups tend to hang out with other guys somewhat closer to him in a variety of measures. Millionaires don't generally hang out with unemployed stoners. Women don't outpace men. They care more about hygiene, but they are not more driven, and the emotional maturity claim i strongly question. Look at stats of who works most overtime and you will find that it is men.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 12:05 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Men did it, but I would bet far fewer men would approach a woman in person than do men spamming tons of women in online dating. Or if men did this, the number of women a single guy could approach in person would be far less than what a guy now could send out in likes on dating profiles because swiping right on 50 profiles can be done in 2 minutes on tinder, and on a phone in your spare time. To walk up and talk to someone takes far more time per woman that a swipe on a phone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 11:59 PM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menThey are saying what every guy has seen in social circles where most of, or all, the women I'm that circle would rather chase and compete with the other women over most desirable guy as opposed to going after the 2nd or 3rd best guy in the group with no competition. We all know this to be true, while women usually won't admit it because it makes them look superficial and picky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:31 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.But before apps and social media, if she wanted to date or have a relationship she had to meet people. There was no other choices unless someone she knows set her up with the person she got into a relationship with. She didn't want MOST men, but even the men she initially didn't want would have some chance to talk with her and women often do change their minds after seeing more of a guy than just a picture and knowing his height and job. I know many people my parents are friends with who met eac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:27 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I think you are right in how women think of sex different than men. I think the part that gives is that women will have sex sooner than they want to because they know a desirable guy has options and is probably not going to wait as long as she wants when it comes to sex before he gets bored and looks elsewhere. I've talked about this with female friends who admit that they will do this because the person has to be seeing you to develop feelings and have an eventual relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:23 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.How is it destroying your health? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:19 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Thank you for your insightful comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:18 AM |
| 2 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Having your own place helps a lot. That itself isn't going to get you anything if no woman is interested | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:17 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.The men whose lives are not advancing in any way because they spend so much time and energy playing video games while neglecting all the ways they can be productive Not good for society either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:16 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.But they can do it now far easier with lower time investment meeting other people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:15 AM |
| 3 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I agree with that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:14 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Not what I said. My point is that the modern dating environment is not helping most men succeed compared to generations past. I think of a scenario where a woman has an idea of what type of man she wants. She is at a social gathering and ends up talking with a man who isn't her type and she is not initially interested in him, but after talking a few minutes she finds that she really likes his energy and they have so much in common. She likes how he makes her feel so she agrees to go on a date wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:13 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I agree with what you are saying how the apps are trying to keep people single while also raising expectations (particularly for women). The best way to keep a woman on an app is to raise her expectations to levels where she is very unlikely to meet that caliber of person. They also compensate for this by manipulating what profiles they show by making her think there are all these amazing people out there and she has a real chance of getting one of them. Dating apps finances and dating success o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:09 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I don't. To match with someone or send a message on social media takes no time, energy, or courage. Going up to someone in person and complementing her or asking her out is much more personal and the rejection is more personal and real. For guys to spam a ton of female accounts and hope for a bite is easy and if she swipes left rejecting him he never hears about it and never even has to think about it again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:05 AM |
| 2 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.100%. These apps manipulate who they show and make it seem like there are endless gorgeous single people on them and it's just a matter of time before you meet one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:03 AM |
| 2 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Apps have helped me for the limited times I have used them. Met hookups and a few FWB (that never end well). I think these apps have helped a few men like me and you, but most guys I don't think are better in the current modern dating environment than they would have been 20 years ago before the apps and social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:02 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.As a 30 year old guy that is not what I have seen with women in my professional and social groups. The single women my age all are looking for effectively top 5% men. I acknowledge that this may be selection bias in the sense that the pickiest women are most likely to be single because high expectations are harder to meet, thus all the less picky women who are married I am not hearing about complaining of dating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 03:01 AM |
| – | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.More people seem to complain about how men and women have changed as opposed to technology affecting things. Thats been my perception at least from the posts I have seen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 02:58 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I agree that most don't want to get pumped and dumped, they want him for commitment. Women understand that hot guys have options and that same hot guy probably isn't going to wait 5 dates to sleep with her when he can get laid relatively easy. This is why women will often sleep with a guy faster than they want too. They are trying to keep a guy interested when they know he has options | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 02:58 AM |
| 5 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I'm doing fine in dating. It wasn't a post about my life. It was about what I observe and trying to make sense of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:39 AM |
| 3 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.When apps create a low risk, low investment, high reward situation it is inevitable these things are happening. They are not good overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:38 AM |
| 0 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Dating apps giving women unrealistic expectations of the type of guy she can get based on her thinking more exist than in reality because of app manipulation, and even unremarkable women getting many matches- has really warped a lot of women's perception of reality related to dating. I think dating apps do this making women think they can get a fabulous person she cannot, because it keeps women single and chasing the unobtainable, while also keeping her on the apps. The apps don't make money whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:37 AM |
| 3 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I just made my post as someone looking at it like a social psychologist might. It's a fair point about people who are looks obsessed. I don't necessarily think most of the women who do that are looks obsessed. I think they see it rationally that if they are able to filter out the types they are least likely to like, and maximize the types of men they are most likely to like, why wouldn't they do that? Its like me saying I will limit my search parameters on a website of trying to by tools. Spendi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:33 AM |
| 1 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Thats an interesting hypothesis. It might be right in the sense that iGen Z is more technology based than millennials, yet they seem to be rejecting online dating that would seem to be the opposite of what might be expected for how much they otherwise use technology. Many of the comments are accurately mentioning so many issues that online dating has put out. I agree with you on so much of the content about other genders making people more averse to relationships. Redpill has made men more cauti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:30 AM |
| 5 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Thats a completely different issue. I agree with you. I think video games are the worst on there. Guys spending ungodly amounts of time on these games at the coast of fitness, socializing, career advancement, socialization. Its a problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:25 AM |
| 7 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Probably to an extent the women will. My point was that women going out to meet guys would give other guys a chance to interact with her and showcase attributes that don't show up on dating apps: humor, personality, interests, being a good person. Dating apps highlight looks, job, height, and thats about it. Guys who have strengths outside of these areas are gong to struggle to showcase them to women who are only on apps and are very unreceptive to getting approached, because she only wants to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:24 AM |
| 3 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.Mens low standards were always there prior to apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:20 AM |
| 7 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I agree with all 4 of your bullet points being valid reasons why online dating is not working for men or women I also think that technology is not helping with any of the issues of the 4 points. Specifically the 2nd and 4th point are definitely made worse by dating apps. 1 is also made worse by the apps in the sense that guys without much time or effort can try and get sex easily. They could do this in person prior to the apps, but it took more time and effort on their part having to actually me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:20 AM |
| 4 | The biggest issue with modern dating is how technology made dating way easier for a small percentage of men, and way harder for all the rest.I agree that they can be avoided. The point of the post was that women can CHOOSE to use them and completely avoid any guy who she isn't initially interested in. That opportunity for men to show their personality or sense of humor, that used to be available for men for generations, is now far less available with so many women on the apps. The apps have taken some debated percentage of women who could be met in public away from this opportunity. This isn't helping opportunities of most men was my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 06:56 AM |
| 5 | Victim mentality to avoid responsibility 101Most of these reasons they cite are them not admitting the truth that the guy in question is not what she is looking for, be it about looks/height or finances. Her assigning some negative to the guy as why she wasn't interested in is about her saving face and not having to admit that she won't date anyone under 6 feet tall, or she wants someone who is financial able to provide her with a certain lifestyle. She doesn't come across as what she really is. I think men would take these listed reasons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 06:53 AM |
| 2 | People tend to misunderstand female body positivity on this sub.I think the rage against 'body positivity' is to do with the pendulum swinging the other way, and how those in the body-positivity community are so extreme. Many people in the body positive community are hyper vigilant against ANYTHING that says something negative about obesity, regardless of if the statement is true (example is saying obesity has massive impact on heart heath and diabetes risk). The Body positive community is so militant that even pointing out that obesity leads to an estimated… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?I think that is something to do with a pushback from hookup culture that so many people realized wasn't giving them what they need. I think it is where more people are abstaining while a lot of other people are knee deep in it. I might even describe them as completely separate groups in terms of how they view and engage in dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 05:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: women with delusional standards due to sexual attention from appealing men are the functional equivalent of men who fall for strippers who just want their moneyEvery FWB relationship I have gotten in, the woman wanted a relationship or more than what I said about not wanting anything serious. Making it explicitly clear that I didn't want a relationship at the beginning also didn't help maters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 06:42 AM |
| 4 | The most toxic form of femininity is women’s refusal to acknowledge or call out poor behavior from their own genderIt's also that women play for team women because they view it as creating a world and standards in it that never will hold them accountable. Women want a world where they can get everything and never have to be at fault when women generally are problematic, or individually. Look at how when a woman is talking about a breakup with her ex how she will almost never claim that it was a joint thing. It is almost always either say he was the sole responsibility, or he was overwhelmingly at fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 06:21 AM |
| 1 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?Possibly. Penicillin was discovered in 1928 and became widely available in the mid 1940s with WW2 needs facilitating the manufacturing of the antibiotic on larger scales. I question that treatment and concern for STDs was so much involved in the rise of casual sex. Penicillin treats syphilus and used to be used for gonhorrhea, it doesn't work on chlamydia. this treatment came around over 20 years prior to the sexual revolution in the 1960s. From all I have read, STD rates were very low until the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 06:14 AM |
| 1 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?that is true. Even so, the amount of casual sex overall was far less for the average man in 1920 than it was today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?I am well versed in history. Dating success today may be skewed in the sense that some men are way above average, but there is still more casual sex in todays world than there was prior to the late 1960s. Dating is not unrealistic. Go to any restaurant on a saturday night or a shopping center and you will see numerous couples. Maybe that is no every persons expectations, but people are dating and having relationships. What controls do you propose on dating apps for women? If you have dated so mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?Still the exception. Average number of sexual partners for men now in lifetime is still way higher than generations past. Obviously there were outliers then as there are now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 06:00 AM |
| 8 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soIts the way they shit on men by phrasing it as comparing us to a wild animal. Just by asking the question it is implied that men are so vile and evil that it is a legitimate question of if we are worse for women than one of the most dangerous and aggressive animals in nature- that absolutely has killed people. It's their way of attacking men without explicitly using mysandrist terms and phrases. They may not be saying "all men are shit.", but it is obvious that is exactly what they are saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 06:15 AM |
| 13 | Hating men is perfectly permitted on Reddit and the converse less soThe left has nothing to say to men other than 'don't be oppressive and don't engage in toxic masculinity'. If it isn't about telling men how awful and privileged we supposedly are, the left would have nothing to say about men generally. It certainly has nothing to tell men about how to live or what we should strive for out of fear that this will lead to that same toxic masculinity. I think this 'intersectional' view is a big part of why so many men left the left. It only sees men as in privilege… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 06:12 AM |
| 4 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?Those are pretty extreme solutions to change society. Completely incompatible with Constitutional rights. I question if those people are actually in favor of the extreme solutions they present, or it is just a way of saying how much they hate things at present | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 06:04 AM |
| – | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?I don't think that people can change the game. The game is on a macro societal level that has so many factors beyond our control. Men can opt out of it, or play the game on more limited terms, but changing it seems damn near impossible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 05:45 AM |
| 28 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?This post has no understanding of history and how sex is WAY EASIER to get now than any point prior to the 1960s when the sexual revolution happened. Prior to the pill and easy access safe abortions, casual sex was very rare because the risk of getting pregnant for a woman was enormous. It was not social acceptable to have a child out of wedlock. It's the story of parents who would send their pregnant teenage daughter to a relative out of state to have the kid because the shame was so high. Wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 05:44 AM |
| 2 | Are men not also hypergamous?Because for most situations it will not work for men. There are 2 main reasons for this Men are not wired for hypergamy. The ape male brain looks at women based on attractiveness of who is the best we can get out genes passed on, and if not the best then as much kids as we can have as possible. This is an evolutionary psychology thing with how men were the hunters and gatherers who acquired the resources. Our brains have not evolved for the modern world where women can have the resources It just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 05:14 AM |
| 2 | Why haven’t more men quit the market?That absolutely would help Still a minority of the women, and thats my other issue in how most of those that are better than average think they are just about perfect. Thats the 'mid at best thinking they are amazing' problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 03:24 AM |
| 25 | Why haven’t more men quit the market?Lots of men have done more of a soft check out I think. I mean that many men at a certain age just say 'screw it' to where they will sleep with a woman if it is there and not too much work, but the guy isn't looking for relationships and certainly isn't looking for marriage. Over 30, the quality of women in the dating market in the US just falls off a cliff. 2/3 are overweight and 4/10 are so overweight they meet obesity criteria. So many of them are also single mothers by then. All those things… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 12:35 AM |
| – | Men NEED sex. The use of prostitution should be normalized, legalized, and recommended for struggling men.Who is benefiting from this? the woman who is emotionally dead because she has sex with 20 men a week? The men who associated sex and intimacy with an exchange of money? The men who see real relationships and commitment as not something to strive for, but something to avoid seeing these women? I don't see who is better off in this world | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Men NEED sex. The use of prostitution should be normalized, legalized, and recommended for struggling men.Go to California where they passed insane laws that greatly limit the police ability to stop or detain prostitutes, leading to a situation where they advertise in the wide open. This is often where women are nude (or very close to it) and near places like schools and daycares where children inevitably will see this. Prostitution is not good for our society or the men who use it. Sex should have more intimacy than a simple exchange of money. Sex workers and their customers are worse off for it. L… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:32 AM |
| – | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.It falls apart when too many of the users are unwilling to accept what the dating market is telling them, but still insist on getting what they want. I don't think people have an understanding of what 'average' actually means. in the sense of that they might not be average and the person they want might well be way above average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 12:19 AM |
| 2 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.I think it is a bit of some of those things. I think that women have higher standards than men on the apps. I think women are generally more unreasonable and entitled on the apps compared to men, but too many men are also the same level of unreasonable. I've had too many of my male friends on the app who are not the most attractive and desirable out there. Most were at least average, but most were not top 10% either. Too many of them were functionally looking for a top 20% woman on these apps. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Why "just date someone from your social circle" is often poor advice for nerdy, socially awkward, sexless men and why cold-approaching as many women as possible is betterIt's another level removed from that. Have those in your friend group recommend you to their friends who are outside of the group. I've had good luck in the past dating friends of my female friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?I agree that some people are inherently bad, but is practically every one of these guys evil? Some people are shit and your example seems to fit that description. My point is that hearing women in my social circles talk about breakups it was like more like 95% of the time they are blaming the man on the breakup, or accusing him of abuse. Most of those the women will not say that she is responsible for any of the issues, or she was somewhere close to half the reason the split happened. It is to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 08:29 AM |
| 2 | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?Those are not good to just lay blanket statements that don't actually look at the individual person. I would take out the 'incapable of fidelity one'. If a partner cheats I generally lose about all sympathy for his/her complaints about the other person. Nobody caused you to cheat and if the person was truly awful then get out. I think is more of what most guys have experienced with an ex who seemingly magically has a new guy a few days after the breakup. I have 3 exes I know of how had somebody … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 03:05 AM |
| 3 | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?I agree. That is the the obvious conclusion from someone who claims they had more than a few exes who were all evil or crazy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 02:59 AM |
| – | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?Or the person (man or woman) telling the story would rather blame it entirely on their exes and not have to take any accountability for their bad relationships and bad decisions or behaviors in them. It's very convenient. The person never has to admit any fault. The person can claim they are perfect and present an unrealistically positive picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 02:01 AM |
| – | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?It is rare that I hear any woman talking about an ex and not accusing him of either being abusive, or responsible for all the issues in the relationship. They either blame the ex for 100% of the issues in the relationship or something like 90%. I cannot consciously remember the last time a woman said something to the effect of her behavior being a major reason the relationship didn't work, or even it being even responsibility for her and the guy for the breakup. I hate terms like 'always' and 'n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 01:57 AM |
| – | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?Or she probably wasn't exactly a princess in the matter either and did her share of actions in the relationship. Of all the stories I have heard of women who blamed everything on their ex, most of them are a 2 way street when all the details come out. Her laying all the blame on him is a tool women use to gain sympathy while also completely avoiding taking any accountability for her part in the relationship. I've been at the end of that where I told women straight up I did not want a committed r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 01:53 AM |
| 3 | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?Women saying that all her exes were assholes has the motivation of her not having to take any responsibility for her previous dating decisions. If she is just a poor mistreated victim, it is a way of her distancing herself from the fact that she either picks horrible partners, and more specifically that she probably did some not great things in these relationships either. She can put all the blame on the exes so she doesn't have to question herself or take responsible for what happened. I had an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 01:48 AM |
| – | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?And usually you find out over time that a person who is always claiming to be the victim is not actually such in many of the situations. The details will slowly leak out about what happened and you realize that the narrative of the 'victim' is often a one sided perspective that skips all the inconvenient aspects that show it was a 2 sided thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 01:43 AM |
| 9 | Is it a red flag if a woman says that none of her exes or guy's she has slept with treated her nice?It is a concern for several reasons. My first concern is that she has a victimization complex where she always sees herself as the victim and never will take any personal responsibility for anything. A woman who says ever ex treated her poorly and the wrongs of the relationship were largely or entirely the fault of the men, is a woman who is probably always going to see herself as the victim. Most men or women who have this complex are immature and would rather blame anyone and everyone for what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 01:41 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I don't have ED or anything close to it. Regular sex just fine can do 3 times without issue. Most men slow down sexually because of testosterone decline. This is due to men who eat like crap, have too much body fat, and don't exercise. Fat tissue releases estrogen, which is really a problem in fat men. It is also one of the reasons that fat men often have poor sperm quality. Obesity is far more likely to have heart disease and poor blood flow compared to healthy weight. If men lift regularly it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 01:28 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.They have studied ED and most of the men who have under 70 is for psychological reasons. They can test this by putting a monitor on a mans junk to see if he is getting erections at night. What they usually find is men who struggle to get an erection during sex are able to achieve firm erections in their sleep- meaning that the issue is not heath that they are not physically able to get hard, its that they have some stress or other psychological factor at play. It isnt a blood flor or physiologic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 12:30 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.You can have your opinion, I just don't agree that it is accurate. I don't remember any of the women I know from 20-25 having anything to say on dating guys 8-15 years older than them. Many of them did date men that older. Maybe I don't remember or it just wasn't something people talked about or cared about that much at the time. I will point out that the inconsistency of what you are saying. You are claiming that these relationships almost never happen, yet for something that is supposedly very… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 05:43 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.That guy who is bald and 5'11 is facially very unattractive. Like 9/10 guys easily would have higher facial attractiveness. Maybe in my book that takes his physical attractiveness down a bunch, even with him being in good physical shape. His wife is stunningly beautiful and is a stay at home mom. She has a bachelors degree. I don't really take into account partners earnings with dating value because I don't date women in medicine because Ireally do not enjoy them as partners. I have been called … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 05:35 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.US Even as a resident, women seem to perk up because they know what they means with earning potential being right around the corner. Many colleguesI know have wives who are impressive to put it lightly. One colleague that comes to mind is maybe 5 foot 11 inches tall, bald, not that good looking, is in very good physical shape- this guy is married to a woman 15 years younger than him and she is stunning. He's a generous 4/10 and she is a 9.9/10. An anesthesiologist I know is maybe late 60s and is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 03:40 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Most men who need viagra do so because they have heart issues, and/or are fat. Most men who have ED are over 70 years old with other comorbid health issues. Nobody has to accept aging. I am in better shape than most 21 year old despite being over a decade older. It is all about how we take care of ourselves. The people who take care of themselves can live amazingly well into their 80s and 90s where they can still do activities and have little or no physical limitations. You are right that it isn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 12:51 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.You are probably right that some of it is enjoying the youth we spent too much time working on achieving the things we did. We want to enjoy the things we didn't have the time and money to do when we were in our 20s. For better or worse, I meet a woman over 30 (I'm early to mid 30s), she is going to want to be engaged in a year and a half and married in 2. She wants kids in 3. I get it because of how fertility and pregnancy issues get more likely with age. At the same time, that just isn't my ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 12:46 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Read your link. It says 2017-2018. The link YOU posted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 12:17 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I apologize for assuming your comment was an attack. I'm not saying I am amazing but well educated and in good shape. Being tall doesn't hurt either. It just gets tiring when it is usually middle age women who have so many emotions over men dating younger women. It's not just saying it is wrong for whatever reason, they delegitimize the concept entirely that is is acceptable for men to value beauty or age in women. It's always convenient that it comes at a time when these same older women are at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 12:16 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.It's not that men 30+ are jaded, many of us spent so much of our 20s working our asses off trying to get where we are. The amount of hours I spent in a library or research lab would astonish people. Those are hours not spent having all the fun life experiences most people in their 20s get to enjoy. It's the cost to pay and I am not saying it is better or worse for the people who do or don't do that. It feels like trying to pick up life in our 30s from all the things we missed out on. I think it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 06:50 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I 100% agree that scrubs in their 30s are not getting hot 22 year olds. In my personal life, I cannot recall ever seeing a dude I thought was unimpressive (in his 30s) who got a woman who was 20-24 and attractive/desirable. Some women in their early 20s women will meet a upper guy like that and fall for him and maybe have enough perspective that they probably will never find someone better who can give what that guy can, and thats okay. Find what they are looking for. Most doctors I know are mar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 06:37 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Because I can beat a 25 year old in numerous other things that women like. Intelligence, achievement, better housing, more life experience, more understanding how the world works, more experience how to interact and talk with women, more confidence having gained somewhat from experience, dress better, more financial stability, have more mature interests. These things matter a ton. Women are not like men where they see a hot person and want to have sex no questions asked. Women want to feel conne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 05:01 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I'll go on a whim and guess my biology and medical background might just be extensively more than yours. Maybe I even went to medical school and did research on fertility and embryonic processes! ! At some point dating is transactional as much as nobody wants to believe it. Her beauty is an asset and I bring things that are assets to them. The women over 30 are just as, if not, more shallow in terms of how they look for partners to marry based on who gives them the best financial and life prospe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 04:43 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.You're so wise. Any other outdated nonsense i should know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 04:36 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.If guys hit the gym and eat well, they can age very well. Can have muscle and not be fat. It isn't easy and requires discipline, but absolutely can be done. They have ultramarathons for men who are over 65. It's a thing. If guys can do that at 65, there is not reason guys at 35 cannot look and feel great. Just got to make it a priority | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 01:16 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.But like you said 'they don't have those things'. The women I have had relationships around 10 years younger than me had in common that they wanted a guy who was serious and felt frustrated that most men their ages (20-25) were not serious. They wanted to party too much and play video games. Most had little direction or drive in life. I had those things and kept in shape with lifting and various forms of cardio. I learned alot in college as an undergrad and post-grad studies. My exes appreciated… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 01:14 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Your data is from 2017-2018. That is 6 years old. It is not up to date . Alot has changed in the last 6 years public health wise. I meant that a majority of the men dating younger women are not those negative attributes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 01:08 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Your response is as typical as women commenting on the matter usually do. Delegitimize the idea that it is even really happening for guys in their 30s to date attractive women 20-25 Insult the men who say they are by saying they clearly are a joke and not worth anything, inspire of the fact that the attractive younger women DO date us. We clearly have to be immature and superficial because we would rather date a pleasant and attractive 22 year old compared to most 30+ women who are fat, resentfu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 01:03 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I mean guys who are definitely above average. The average 35 year old guy is going to struggle horribly trying to get an attractive 22 year old woman. I mean guys who have some success, and I don't mean rich. Guys in shape, generally educated helps, confident, and have social skills. I spend time to go to the gym each day, and worked very hard to get where I am having been to too much college. The guys who are dating younger women are not average. You have to bring something to the table (I do n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:56 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I didn't say one word about my relationship status either way. Did not mention exes either other than saying I have had committed relationships with younger women. It's about looking at life and seeing what you want to accomplish and balancing that with the risks of relationships and how serious you want to be, be it marriage or a committed relationship or keeping it casual. Marry the wrong person, or anyone, and this has many implications on the future and what someone can accomplish. It is all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:53 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I don't think most men or women get their shit together. Most people prefer things easy. That is why 2/3 American adults are overweight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:50 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I have no kids, no tattoos, no MH issues. Also in shape and have muscle without being overweight. I have a great education and have done alright with it, though I'm not at my final destination yet. Your claim about more obese men than women is not true for the US. Many countries it is by not the US. Men are 41.6%, women are 43.8% (link below) I didn't mention my relationship status... I just say how it is. So many people place this narrative that guys can't date younger women or we are creeps an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:49 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.The ugly unattractive guys that age. If a charismatic attractive 30 year old was interested it very likely would have been a different story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:43 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.It isn't just money or the things that cost money like a house. I have learned a lot in my time and this shows compared to a dude who is under 25. Life experience. It is the soft skill of knowing how to talk and interact with women. Knowing how to make them feel special and other soft skills that I sure as hell didn't in my early 20s. I don't think I knew these things in my mid to late 20s. Take these skills that come with age and experience and combine them with staying in shape and aging well,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:42 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I guess we know different people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:38 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I'm not rich enough to be a sugar daddy, nor would I be if I was. I am in better shape than most 23 year old guys, I have more muscle. I have post-graduate education and know a lot more to have a lot more conversations about more topics. I have more drive and ambition than most 23 year old dudes who would rather drink and play video games than try to achieve anything. I am absolutely not in the same boat as 30+ women. My fertility window isn't about to decline, I could have kids 30 years from no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:32 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Most people guess my age wrong at least 7 years younger than I am. Work out 4-5 days a week and can run a 6:30 mile. I'm stronger and can run faster more than most 21 year old guys. Yes, I am a millennial in my 30s. It isn't about money. I have a postgraduate degree, but I am not rich. With age comes experience in soft skills like having a conversation and knowing things to talk about. It isn't just cultural issues or stuff we grew up with. We can enjoy doing things and events. Go hiking or take… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 12:29 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Same thing I have said. I'm in my 30s and it's shockingly easy to date women 20-25. The women who say it's so rare or that only celebrity or rich men can do it, are just wrong. You can't be a bum and you can't be fat and look like shit, but you bring something to the table a hot 23 year old will appreciate that you are so much smarter and more driven than the guys her age who mostly want to drink and play video games. Its all women in their late 20s and up who know they will never be able to com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 10:47 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.It's way easier to date younger women than women over 30 (a hunch that is you) want men to believe. I say that because most of my exes over the last few years were at least 8+ years younger than me. It works because men who have value and grew in many ways have way more to offer a 23 year old than the guys her age who are generally idiots who don't know anything, lack purpose and ambition, and whose time is overly spent on video games and drinking alcohol. These women like guys like me because w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 10:30 AM |
| -3 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.They want serious because it serves their needs to get the best guy they can before their looks and fertility decline any further. It isn't some wise decision they are making. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 10:26 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.That line is so overused and is just lazy. Recent obesity statistics have women as 42.5% obese in the US. 2 out of 3 are overweight. Just on that category alone it is nearly impossible to find someone. We are not even getting into single mothers, women with excessive tattoos, women with severe mental health issues, women who are entitled princesses. I stay in shape and I would rather date a women in her 20s who is 10-15 years younger than me compared to some land whale my age who gave up trying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 10:25 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Hit the gym and don't eat like shit and guys can be in as good, if not better, shape at 35 than they were at 20. Most men don't because they would rather eat like shit and not work out. Most of the single guys who talk about how hard it is to keep in shape and work out are the same guys who play xbox for 35 hours a week and get to bed too late as a result. Its all about priorities | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 10:22 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Most women in their late teens to early 20s dated a guy who was around (or more than) 10 years older. A majority of the women I know over 30 have at least one of these experiences | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 10:20 AM |
| – | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.I think people who act like you have to be rich for it to happen are wrong. I've had no problem dating women ten years younger than me who are attractive. I'm not rich. I am educated and doing better than most people, but not a celebrity or a prince. If a guy is confident, can talk to women and be interesting while doing so, has learned anything in life, has some sense of drive or purpose, goes to the gym and takes care of his body, dresses better than a slob- you absolutely can date 20 year old… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I agree, who is to know anything about what it means to be desirable. Not a formula but to act like it is unknowable is just idiotic. Ask 100 men if they think Scarlet Johansson in her prime or Amy Schumer at present is prettier. You will get either 99 or 100 of the men saying that Scarlet was prettier. Just because there isn't an exact formula does not mean there is nothing to the concept. If a man or woman shows preference for someone of a certain attractiveness and this caliber of person is e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 01:34 AM |
| 4 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I think it has more to do with wealth and education than anything else. More education and wealth creates a higher opportunity cost of having kids so fewer people do. In poor countries it really doesn't matter because the people will be poor regardless of how many kids they have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:44 AM |
| – | Western women's dating options are shrinking.I hear you, but if she is only interested in a man who is clearly better than her then that is entitlement. Men or women who only want partners who are superior to them in total are entitled and unrealistic. It's like someone having 10 dollars and thinking that they should be able to get a 3 course meal at a nice steakhouse. You get what you pay for and dating is you get about what you bring to the table. If she won't like her equal then it says a lot more about her than it does society. Worse i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:42 AM |
| 3 | Western women's dating options are shrinking.But thats the point, men and women see so many other people on these networks that are exceptional that they think the 'average' guy is nothing by comparison- and thus invisible. Average people are invisible because women's perception of average has been so distorted from reality. What many women think is average is actually way above average. This is why women think most men are below average, they have no accurate perspective | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:37 AM |
| 1 | american women are sabotaging themselves in datingI don't think that the perceptions individual people have are often accurate. One study looked at a large group of college professors and asked them individually if they thought their work was better than average compared to their colleagues. 92% said that they were above average. Unless it is a very specific type of skew, that is mathematically impossible. Single people are not much different. I say this as a guy who has known and seen so many women who were below average thinking that 4/5 guys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:05 AM |
| – | Western women's dating options are shrinking.It's mostly expectations. People can see everyone on social media and dating apps and those will show you the most attractive people first and most often. They are selling users the fantasy. It gives people an illusion that the extraordinary is just normal. When they get out into the real world they will find out that most people are not stunningly attractive with perfect charisma and a perfect job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:54 AM |
| – | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Maybe. The issue is so many men and women have such unrealistic entitled expectations. Most are unrealistic of their own dating value in the dating market. That, or they may have a realistic idea of how desired they generally are, but still want someone who is way more desirable than them. It's alarming that so many men and women are so entitled as to only be happy if they get someone extraordinary, compared to what he/she offers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:52 AM |
| – | Western women's dating options are shrinking.Its not that simple as OP puts it. I think it's more of an issue in that too many women have vastly higher expectations than they are likely to get. I've met very few women in life who will admit that they are average or below average. Many men do this also, but reality tends to be more honest with men than women where men are not given a gray area. Unattractive women can still match with lots of men and she can have a one night stand or situation ship with a dude way more desirable than her who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:50 AM |
| 1 | What are some reasons for still being a virgin that would be a red flag?Yeah and it begs the question of why no woman has thought of the guy as desirable. The next question is going to be how can the guy be worth dating if at some age way past high school no woman has thought of him as desirable enough to have sex, and this is in a world where sex is more readily available than probably any time in history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 11:49 PM |
| – | Do you think men need a stronger sense of collective male identity to collectively advocate for male interests, especially as a counterweight to female interests?Either women or men who might as well be women. Academia is largely left leaning women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 08:39 AM |
| – | Do you think men need a stronger sense of collective male identity to collectively advocate for male interests, especially as a counterweight to female interests?I in the strongest possible terms would agree that women have a very strong sense of collective interests and 'team woman' compared to men. Look how many men call themselves feminist, or at least will parrot and defend all the talking points about how supposedly oppressed women are, ignoring all the endless examples of men getting screwed by comparison. It is so common among women that they have names for women who don't believe in the talking points. They call them 'pick me girls', or claim the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 07:44 AM |
| 3 | 95% of bad Dating decisions by man (single moms, girls with several trauma which cheat on you) happen because those dudes have no options, the argument "they just love them" is manipulation and our society needs to stop with this. Be real.I agree. Most men and women will not admit that they are below average. Seen too many men and women I know who cannot comprehend or admit that they are just shopping for someone who is more desirable than them and this is why they are single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 07:19 AM |
| 1 | The problem with modern marriage is that there are 0 repercussions for cheatingI AM JEFF BEZOS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:24 AM |
| 1 | The problem with modern marriage is that there are 0 repercussions for cheatingNumbers 2 through 6 are questionable assumptions. I have had friends in my social circle whose wives cheated on them prior to divorce. There absolutely was social repercussions for the woman who cheated in that the mutual friends of the couple took the side of the man who was cheated on and did not associated with the cheating woman afterwards. People don't like individuals who are untrustworthy and show it in their actions. It's the idea that a person who is a bad person is not just going to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:24 AM |
| – | What are some reasons for still being a virgin that would be a red flag?I think women judge it because they ask themselves why no woman has previously thought of the guy as worth having sex with. I mean when religion or consciously choosing to not have sex are not reasons for still being a virgin. I met a woman online and she seemed normal and I enjoyed several long conversations with her before we went on a date. On the last one I asked when the last time she was in a relationship was. Her answer was that she had never been in a relationship. She was over 25. My im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:05 AM |
| 5 | What are some reasons for still being a virgin that would be a red flag?Depends on the context. If a guy is deeply religious and is a virgin for those reason, it makes sense and isn't generally as big of a deal. If a guy isn't religious and has no moral objection to having sex and would have sex if a woman was willing, but he hasn't because no woman wanted too- that would be something that would make women view it with suspicion. I mean by that is she is going to wonder why the guy has never had sex in the sense that why has no woman up to that point thought enough … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 05:53 AM |
| 2 | Anyone else (all genders) get torn between wanting to be a slut and actually having something serious with one partner?I've had that too. Funny how they never mention they have been in a relationship with some guy for years and they live together. Seeing it from that side was shocking to me how disloyal so many women are. I've had instances with women in my social circles in relationships who have said and done things that really felt like they were testing the waters to see if interest was there, while doing it subtly enough that there was plausible deniability if it came back to her partner. Most guys have had… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 01:30 AM |
| 3 | Anyone else (all genders) get torn between wanting to be a slut and actually having something serious with one partner?I think most people go through that like of thinking. Both have their drawbacks. Most healthy people will realize that playing the field is overrated. Most of the women who will sleep with you easily are not exactly the loyal or reliable types. Most stable women will want some sort of commitment with moving the relationship forward if she is sleeping with a guy she develops feelings for. The women I have seen who are okay sleeping with a guy perpetually without giving it a name are either love a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 01:26 AM |
| 1 | How would the world look if women ruled it?The parental investment theory has proven nothing for explaining why women are more selective with who they have sex with than men?It is as well documented of a theory in behavioral biology as any. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_investment%23:~:text%3DParental%2520investment%2520theory%252C%2520a%2520term,competition%2520for%2520access%2520to%2520mates.&ved=2ahUKEwihktC7qN2GAxXmklYBHa0rCPUQFnoECB8QAw&usg=AOvVaw1GauVMyon4tg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 09:42 AM |
| – | How would the world look if women ruled it?Its is evolutionary psychology. It is men and women having very different hormone systems such as men with much higher testosterone. Fat women were considered more beautiful in very rare and isolated contexts that had to do with food insecurity. Men tested on all cultures on earth, at any age, never find women more physically attractive than after age 23 when studied. This is a 25 year old in Canada or a 75 year old in India. This greatly shows that there is evolutionary and biological factors t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 06:02 AM |
| 1 | How would the world look if women ruled it?Yes the invisible boogie man that is the patriarchy. That group that is men who create a society by men for men that gives men 63% longer prison sentences for women, has men being 7/10 murder victims, has men being 95% of workplace deaths, has men getting 50% college degrees than women, has most homeless being men, most suicides being men, having men die younger, and screws men in civil and divorce court. The patriarchy is a fantasy that makes sense if you don't question the idea about how it ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 05:44 AM |
| – | Women/bluepill men here downplay the relevance of women's online discourseIt's always how 'only the real feminists___' mantra. I have almost without exception never met a feminist who actually in any meaningful way wanted gender equality. Its attacking all the ways women are supposedly victims and ignoring the endless areas that women have clear as day privilege, like in men working almost all dangerous jobs, men getting 63% longer prison sentences for the same charges, men being 50% less college graduates than women, and so on. They have no problem with privilege as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 05:39 AM |
| – | How would the world look if women ruled it?Look in the Scandinavian countries where they have tried to eliminate gender based differences, and specifically with employment, and the society still has massive gender differences- studies show even more so than most western countries. This goes entirely against what feminists and social constructionists would have predicted. Biology is part of who we are. There is a reason that 99 out of 100 or 100 out of 100 men will say that Gigi Hadad is more physically attractive than Lizzo. There are ce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 05:37 AM |
| – | How would the world look if women ruled it?Look at Scandinavian countries and how they tried for gender egalitarian policies and the self chosen gender differences are still present. Biology does matter to a great degree here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:56 AM |
| – | How would the world look if women ruled it?I agree that no 10 year old boy says he wants to be a brick layer, but the point is that men are WILLING to actually do that to support themselves and their families. Women are not. Regardless of socialization there are major biological differences in men and women to where women prefer certain things and men prefer certain things. The social constructionists will never admit this despite massive evidence to support it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:54 AM |
| – | Women/bluepill men here downplay the relevance of women's online discourseAnd very willing to be whatever they think the women want them to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:51 AM |
| – | Women/bluepill men here downplay the relevance of women's online discourseThey make excuses like how she is 'neglected', or he is 'abusive', or how she communicated what she wanted so many times and he just didn't listen so her she finally took the initiative and went out to get what she needs. They are making excuses and withholding judgement as to not hold the women accountable. My frustration is when I flip it around and ask if a man who cheats with him secretary at work deserves the same benefit of the doubt. The answer is no because he is a piece of shit who dese… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:50 AM |
| – | Women/bluepill men here downplay the relevance of women's online discourseIt's hard to avoid them in dating because it seems like these ideas are so prevalent among women to various degrees. I just avoid the topics generally. Women rarely can get away from taking any position that isn't 'pro team woman', no matter how unreasonable or logically deficient the position is. I just accept it as impossible to avoid and if it gets too much with someone, just walk away and find another. The funny thing is these types don't seem to find the pro feminist dudes attractive who wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:25 AM |
| – | How would the world look if women ruled it?There have been various attempts by some of these fields to produce campaigns to try and recruit women to some of these rolls I mentioned like in plumbing and electricians, because there is a shortage of people in these positions regardless of them being male dominated. These efforts have been failures to actually get women to want to do these jobs. How many women do you know who want to be bricklayers? How many women do you know who want to carry 75 pounds of cement and then mix them on a const… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:16 AM |
| – | Women/bluepill men here downplay the relevance of women's online discourseAgreed. I've had that frustration arguing with feminists about their endless number of double standards and how it is very rare for a feminist to take a position, or defend, a position that does not directly or indirectly benefit her or other women. Also hearing them hold other women accountable for bad behavior is very rare. Its actually astonishing the rationalizations they make for things like women cheating and women showing cruelty towards men- while also making it clear that they would nev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:59 AM |
| – | Women/bluepill men here downplay the relevance of women's online discourseWomen will say what they actually believe online when the words don't get attached to them and there isn't social stigma like there would be if she said it in person or put it on her Facebook page where everyone would know it was her. I don't think you even really need to go that far. I watched a short video on youtube that was the SNL news part where he was talking about new statistics that said men in the US were dying 6 years earlier than women, and you can hear sooo many women cheering. Prob… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.If it's worth continuing on then ride the wave for what it is worth. I think the quality of the dating pool keeps getting worse as we get older because the most desirable are likely to find relationships and get taken out of the pool leaving the least desirable and these with mental issues, entitlement complexes, or excessive baggage. The women I rejected in my 20s who I thought weren't worth the time then now look like treasures in comparison to most of the women my age who are still single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:30 AM |
| 3 | How would the world look if women ruled it?They would probably need to use men for all the jobs that women almost never do. Drive past any construction site and you will see either no women or maybe 1 woman for every 10 or 15 men. Mechanics, oil workers, firefighters, plumbers, engineers, computer programers, trash collectors, electricians, factory workers, policeman, welders, grouters, fishermen- all of these fields are male dominated and most of them have over 90% of workers being men. Even with a world with half the population gone (m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 12:28 AM |
| 0 | How would the world look if women ruled it?It would be a disaster. So many essential jobs in society are done overwhelmingly by men where 90% or more of these rolls are done by men such as: trash collectors, plumbers, electricians, construction workers, farmers, firefighters, police officers, engineers, computer programers mechanics, factory workers, welders, and more than that. The world would have almost nobody to actually fix or make anything because women almost universally in American are not interested in working jobs that are phys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 12:22 AM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I think that hypergamy is much more prevalent now than 15 years ago due to the rise and influence of social media. Now we can be bombarded with Instagram posts from the richest and most beautiful people to the point where we think these are normal representations of normal people. Also social media is so visual based like showing pictures of your life to where women, who are generally more into social media than men, think more in terms of if a potential partner is photogenic and will look good … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.It's not about fairness, I'm just pointing out the entitlement and stupidity of it, and how it explains why dating is such a joke for most men out there. If you don't care then don't comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.But the women should have enough clue that a guy way better than her overall is not going to be interested in her for anything other than a hook up. Instead of owning that they are entitled and have unreasonable expectations, they say things about there being no good men and how its not her fault she is single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.I swear most people cannot read or understand basic english on this sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.I am talking about WOMEN WANTING AND ONLY BEING INTERESTED IN MEN WAY BETTER THAN THEM. That is entitlement to expect someone way better than you and not be interested in anyone close to your equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:33 AM |
| 1 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.Nothing close to what I am talking about. None of my friends are anywhere close to that picture of a guy who is a total loser. Try again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:32 AM |
| 1 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.And the guys end up finding women way more attractive that most they match with in the end. My point is that the amount of entitlement of women on the apps is shocking. Probably why they are still on the apps; nowhere near as good as they think they are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.People can like who they want. My point is that it is astonishing the level of entitlement you see from women on the apps. Most of them do not want equals, or guys even close to them. The guys who see this pattern are not crazy and are not unreasonable to point it out. Body positivity and all these self-esteem movements have made every 300 pound land whale think she is a 10 and deserves a prince even if she has 3 kids with different men and works at circle k. I understand you clearly dipshit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:29 AM |
| – | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.It's that people commenting are illiterate and cannot comprehend basic english. I am talking about MASSIVE DISPARITIES HERE. A good looking guy who is in great shape matching with ugly fat women. A guy with a masters degree who earns great money getting likes mostly from women who don't earn half as much as him (and not measuring up attractiveness wise). Learn to read | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:27 AM |
| 1 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.If the women are as bitter and jaded as you then they should get off the apps entirely and see a therapist because clearly they are emotionally incapable of dating in the first place. == | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 06:26 AM |
| – | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.I know that. That is one obvious reason why it is extremely common for men to have the realization that they are not matching up with women on their level- because supply and demand allows women to go after men above them and too many men will be okay with that. It fits with what I see in single women in my social circles who are not okay with dating their approximate male equivalent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:52 AM |
| – | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.Get over yourself. Attraction may not be as 'objective' as possible, but let's not be so stupid to act like we can never know such a thing. 99 or 100 out of 100 men will say that Gigi Hadid is prettier than Lizzo. There is generally accepted universal cues of attraction. Look into polls of who is hotter and there will generally be a strong consensus if the 2 people are not what is considered generally close in attractiveness. Sorry but a guy who is fit and considered handsome is clear as day mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:50 AM |
| – | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.I mean entitled in the sense of someone wanting better than they personally bring to the table. Someone who is hideous should not want someone gorgeous, or the same with education etc. I acknowledge that it is complicated because everyone has strengths and weaknesses. What I am talking about is seemingly very mismatched type of matches where the profile of the guy seems clearly way beyond the women matching back (assuming he is swiping right on everything and filtering matches as most guys do). … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:31 AM |
| – | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.Every guy I have known on dating apps consistently struggles to find women liking him back who is his female equivalent. The guy can be in shape and most of the matches will be women who are way overweight and not even close. I see this same thing with income and education where most of the guys matches are usually lower in both fields. Some of these are laughable levels of difference in between the dude being so clearly way more desirable than her. If this is happening to seemingly happen to wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 02:38 AM |
| – | Why are so many dudes whipped?That is an excuse. They need to stand up to people being unreadable, be it men or women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 12:24 AM |
| – | Do women think hypergamy doesn’t exist?I don't even think it is about looks where women generally compromise, unless the situation of education/income is so lopsided like he is a surgeon and she is nurse type of thing. The single women in my various social circles are not dating men as overweight as them and are rarely dating men who are shorter than them from what I have seen. It is also rare for them to date men who both don't make more than them or have an equal education level. I've heard the conversations these women have with t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 07:21 AM |
| 4 | Do women think hypergamy doesn’t exist?The architects I know either make very mediocre money or left the field years ago because they could make more doing something else | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many dudes whipped?I meant more in a sense of women are told to be demanding and that being difficult is perfectly okay because they are supposed to get what they want and men are supposed to give it to them. Using your words as a man with an entitled woman is not going to matter. If she feels she iw owed something, regardless of how ridiculous or unreasonable it is, and you don't provide it for her she will be upset at you. I agree that many men are spineless and put up with this crap when they need to take a sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many dudes whipped?What do you mean exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 01:49 AM |
| 3 | Why are so many dudes whipped?Because society tells men that is what he are supposed to be. Rollo Tomassi is right when he says that society is almost entirely framed from the gynocentric perspective of arguing things from what benefits women the most, delegitimizing perspectives that speak to mens interests and point of view. So many women are taught with social media and modern culture that they need to be assertive and can have anything and everything. They are told to 'have a voice' and 'you are worth it too'. They are t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 01:18 AM |
| – | CMV Dating only becomes easier for men in their 30s because women at that age become more desperate.I disagree because I was more attractive to 20 year old women at 30 than when I was 20,. The reason is I improved greatly in those 10 years of my life. Got degrees, got muscle, dressed better, got game, learned many things, accomplished things, better finances. Men do better in dating because the ones that work on ourselves and improve suddenly find ourselves with a set of tools in dating that we didn't have in earlier years. Also you comment about women in their prime not wanting guys who are 3… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 06:18 AM |
| – | You aren't in the mood. Your SO promptly masterbates and calls it a night. How do you feel?Only ugly people need to poop or pee | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 06:12 AM |
| – | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.It's the princess complex where it feels like dealing with an entitled spoiled brat. I've dated a few and it got old quick and the relationship was done soon after. Entitled people are impossible because they believe they are owed everything and will be resentful and upset wne n they don't get it. Having unreasonable expectations will not lower their anger when they don't get what they feel is deserved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 06:10 AM |
| – | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.You described it well. Its women who often want everything her way and think that not getting that is her being exploited or deprived or what she is entitled too, or what she deserves. Which begs the question of why any woman would need to use the word in the first place. I can see she has a job and that she is able to cook and do the things necessary to live. That would be obvious very quickly. It's the covering for the second option (that you mentioned) that concerns me because using the term … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 06:08 AM |
| – | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.When I've seen it used in my life is mostly women using it as a cope. Kind of along the lines of 'men are just intimidated by me'. The men aren't intimidating, the women who use that are usually difficult and a pain in the ass to deal with. The 'independent' women I've seen are typically entitled brats who use it as a cope because it is easier than admitting they (these women) are not as good as they think they are, and their expectation of a man on this imagined level she sees herself at, hasn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 06:04 AM |
| – | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?Most things are zero sum game. The more time you spend partying and chasing women, the less time you have for learning or trying to working or your career. That is my point. The guys who want it all now can try and get that, but that time and energy comes at a cost. For guys who are not doing well with women, I think it is especially a bad investment in time and energy. If these guys struggle to meet women in person and are invisible on the apps, it means that they will probably spend a lot of e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 06:25 AM |
| 1 | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.The girl boss persona is definitely becoming more of a thing. I think more woman are like than now in my 30s than 10-15 years ago. Maybe it is social media That or maybe they are so intolerable that it explains why they are still single and less obnoxious women are more likely to find someone and not still be looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 06:16 AM |
| 2 | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.Those men are very few. The idea of a woman who never says anything and bows down to me just seems strange for a relationship. Somewhere between not extremely difficult and completely submissive sounds right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 06:14 AM |
| – | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?I ended up with several degrees way before 25 and was able to use them to get a hell of a lot further than most people ever will. Most of my friends who lived the best social live imaginable did so at the expense of ever achieving anything. Also they have aged badly because the alcohol and greasy food you eat at 2am, are not exactly great when your metabolism slows around 25. Mid 30s, these guys look like shit and will be working dead end jobs the rest of their lives in all likelihood. Youth is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 02:24 AM |
| 1 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?The number may be down. The point is that if you life in or near a major ctity that is still tens of thousands of men and women who are having casual sex. This is on college campuses, social settings, etc. There are still so many people who are involved in hookup culture even if the number is down. The people who want and know how to get casual sex can easily do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 02:05 AM |
| 1 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?Every man can improve themselves in major ways, even if his ceiling isn't Leonardo DiCaprio level dude. Look how 40% of adults in the US are overweight with women being a little more than men, but many men could greatly improve their fitness and physical attractiveness if they lifted weights and did some cardio. You see statistics that show an alarming amount of men spend an alarming amount of time playing video games. I'm talking 30 or more hours a week. Those same guys take half of that time a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 02:01 AM |
| 15 | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.What men want is a woman is isn't a nightmare to deal with and is not constantly difficult about everything. This doesn't mean she has no standards and this doesn't mean she gets walked over. It means that she isn't constantly unhappy with everything and isn't complaining about everything that isn't perfect. I've had exes who had the mentality that nothing was ever good enough, and it's exhausting to deal with. Usually the women who say they are 'independent' are the difficult and entitled types… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 01:56 AM |
| 22 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?The internet never lies! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 11:49 PM |
| – | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?Maybe sexual activity is down, but the hookup culture is going very strong. Finding women on apps and in real life who are down for casual sex isn't hard to come by. That is regardless of more men/women checking out of the hook up culture because so many are still in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 11:49 PM |
| -2 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?I think men need to focus on themselves and not worry about the dating market when they are younger. The first 7 years after high school will be until a man hits 25 years old. Those 7 years can be the difference between a great future if a guy works hard and has vision and discipline, or be wasted by focusing partying and hooking up with women at the expense of doing things to help your future. I mean this when I say that dating 22 year old women was easier for me at 32 than it was for me at 22.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 11:47 PM |
| 1 | The only ones who really care about 30+ year olds dating 18+ year olds are older, and/or unattractive and unable to partake"The ones insisting they are looking out for the “young, vulnerable girl they used to be” are full of shit. " That is a direct quote from OP that says exactly what I commented on about how those women making that claim are not being honest about why they are doing it. The reasons are clearly identifiable from that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 02:07 AM |
| 1 | The only ones who really care about 30+ year olds dating 18+ year olds are older, and/or unattractive and unable to partakeTracking the metaphor wayyyy too far here. I said that he was right about the claim that the women making these claims attacking older men for dating younger women, are generally doing it out of jealousy because they (the 30+ women attacking men) are not that attractive and view younger women as a threat. Being ugly has nothing to do with being full of shit. That wasn't even the point of what I said or OP. The point was that the women attacking the men do so not out of actual legitimate concern … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 01:36 AM |
| 0 | The only ones who really care about 30+ year olds dating 18+ year olds are older, and/or unattractive and unable to partakeIt would have nothing to do with it because her attractiveness, or lack thereof, has no implications on the nature of her claim about the color of the sky being true or not. A non sequitur. The OP made a specific claim about the type of women who are the ones complaining about a particular subject. What I said was that my personal observations of seeing this dozens of times support the claim OP is making regarding the attractiveness of women making these claims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 11:32 PM |
| -4 | The only ones who really care about 30+ year olds dating 18+ year olds are older, and/or unattractive and unable to partakeThe OP is 100% correct. As a dude in my 30s I can tell you from experience that the women who complain about men dating younger women are the women who are not attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 11:04 PM |
| -4 | The only ones who really care about 30+ year olds dating 18+ year olds are older, and/or unattractive and unable to partakeWhich is exactly what I didn't do. It's the same shit of women complaining and making something about what it isn't because they don't like how something makes them feel. Vote me down. Shows the pettiness of the women on here that they get emotional over facts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 09:53 PM |
| – | The only ones who really care about 30+ year olds dating 18+ year olds are older, and/or unattractive and unable to partakeIt's speaking out against the stupidity and contradiction of women who have these views. They browbeat men their own age for not wanting them while these same women refuse to 'settle' and date men who are a little older because they don't want these men. These same women complain about the same men who wont settle for them while they as women are not willing to settle for dating who they don't want to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 07:49 PM |
| 3 | The only ones who really care about 30+ year olds dating 18+ year olds are older, and/or unattractive and unable to partakeIt's so true. Every woman I know over 30 talks about Leo like he is some kind of monster for dating women 25 and under. In my 30s and women my age have subtly and not so subtly expressed animosity about women I have dated who were around a decade younger. Of course these same women dated older guys at that age and these same women have made complaints about how guys our age are looking for younger women. The part that is so dumb is these women have dating options because guys in the their late 3… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 07:47 PM |
| – | The only ones who really care about 30+ year olds dating 18+ year olds are older, and/or unattractive and unable to partakeGo on hinge and set age filters to 33-40 and most of these women will be obese being at least 70 pounds overweight. It's not being a little overweight, it's looking like a person literally makes zero effort to take care of herself/himself. Expecting someone who isn't so overweight that it puts their health at risk is not unreasonable. I hit the gym at least 4 days a week and am not even overweight. I'm okay with a little overweight but cannot be obese. Got to try a little | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 07:42 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: how often do you think men sleep with women they are not attracted to?It's not hiding anything. It's having to suffer consequences and going through reflection to realize that people should be treated a certain way. A person who never goes through any suffering for his/her actions isn't likely to ever ponder the right or wrongness of what they are doing. Look at spoiled rich kids who get everything they want from parents that never discipline them. That is what I am talking about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 07:00 AM |
| 1 | If women want sex as much as men, why do they consider it “being used,” make men wait, and have the ability to go without sex for extended periods of time?Women say 'being used' as a way of communicating that they didn't get what they wanted out of an encounter or while dating or having an ongoing sexual relationship with a man. It is her way of being the victim and blaming the man for mistreating her because she doesn't like the way what she was doing with the man made her feel, or it didn't get the outcome she wanted. I had this happen several times where I made it clear to a woman that I wasn't interested in a relationship and was down for casu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 01:05 AM |
| – | Q4M: how often do you think men sleep with women they are not attracted to?I think many of the less attractive women are better people and have better personalities compared to very attractive women. Gorgeous women are often terrible people with awful personalities because nobody has ever really held her accountable. Most men will put up with a lot of crap from a gorgeous woman, and if one guy won't she can have him replaced in no time. This situation of always having men wanting her means that she never faces any real repercussions for her actions and may never learn … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 12:47 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: how often do you think men sleep with women they are not attracted to?A woman who WANTS to have sex with you who has great sexual energy is so sexy, even if she isn't as pretty or fit as we want. Look on apps how attractive women are so hard to please and get interested. They have tons of guys matching her and for her to find any one guy interesting and be excited about is kind of a challenge sometime. Compare that to a less attractive woman. She is excited for a better looking guy and that energy and flirtatious energy is so refreshing. I've had a few times where… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: how often do you think men sleep with women they are not attracted to?It's not that simple. Maybe she isn't that attractive, but her enthusiasm and energy can be very attractive. A woman who makes it clear that she wants you and wants to make it happen that night, is a very attractive thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 12:33 AM |
| 5 | Q4M: how often do you think men sleep with women they are not attracted to?Even a woman below average attractiveness is still sexy with when is naked on top of you and you are inside of her. I will say that less attractive women are more enthusiastic in bed and that gets a bunch of points towards how enjoyable it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: how often do you think men sleep with women they are not attracted to?The women on apps just say they want to come over and sleep with you and expect nothing else. There is a big difference between going out of your way to take a woman on dates and maybe sleep with her compared to a woman just telling you straight up she wants to come over tonight and sleep with you. I don't think these women are honest that they expect no committement and are not looking for anything serious. Almost every friend with benefits I have had like this wanted to turn it into real dates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 12:29 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: how often do you think men sleep with women they are not attracted to?I gave a straight up answer that I did it a few times with women who I matched with on apps. Several I wouldn't have spent the time dating or inventing in it, but they either said they wanted to come over that night for sex meaning they were a sure thing, and I decided why not since it took no effort and why not take a good time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: how often do you think men sleep with women they are not attracted to?I have a few times. A few times on tinder I matched with women who were interesting to talk too, but were not women I would date or bring around anyone I knew socially or otherwise. One girl was not that attractive, but was smart and I enjoyed our conversations. She was heavier than I liked and had too many tattoos, but she had great sexual energy. We slept together 4 times a week for a few months and I made it clear my life was not in a position for a relationship. We both only slept with each … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/24 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spacesDepends on the jobs they do, but yes having a single working parent to provide a decent standard of living is a luxury not reserved for a ton of people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spacesMost of the women I worked with who went on maternity leave would come back for a few weeks to a few months before putting in their 2 weeks notice and then stopped working. They came back for a brief period because if they didn't the workplace could demand their maternity pay returned because that is contingent on the woman not quitting. I think that negativity from men is because many of those 'career women' who left the workplace after having a kid are the same women who talk down and look dow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spacesWhich is the only thing feminists will focus on because it supports the narrative that a trad wife is being oppressed by her husband. It isn't about not getting picked. It's about women working while single and hopefully meeting someone decent who she can have a family with. I don't think very many people would tell a woman not to work if she was single with no kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 03:01 AM |
| – | Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spacesIt is an attempt to fix the issues that are getting worse with child behavioral issues, worsening school performance, kids having little parental observation and interaction, less eating dinners at a dinner table. Studies have shown that kids eating dinner at a table with their parents a majority of days has great predictive benefits to emotional health, school performance, and avoiding teen pregnancy and incarceration. If both parents are working full time jobs the family is not eating together… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 02:58 AM |
| 1 | Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spacesIt isn't so much less prestigious as it is working a less hectic and less time consuming position. If you work a 50 hour a week job, it really limits your ability to be a parent and help out in other ways. Compare that to a 25 hour a week job, where the woman can help with kids more and would have far more time/energy to be a part of the family outside of work. The thing is most prestigious jobs are not part time and many work over 50 hours a week. Look at many lawyers and doctors who put in ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Wanting less competition for elite or high status jobs is what really behind the sudden tradwife push in some manosphere spacesYour take is ridiculous. The reason they talk about these 'high status jobs' is because it is to show that most women who work them are unhappy. The difference is that the low paying retail jobs are obviously worse off that being a stay home mother with a husband who pays the bills. The arguments for low earning women being happier not working really don't even need to be argued. Work at Walmart for 16 dollars an hour to barely make enough to stay out of poverty and nowhere near enough to buy a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/24 02:52 AM |
| 2 | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?I agree. The amount of charisma a short ugly dude needs to get a woman is less than a tall good looking guy. This is why I have said to too many people on these subs who say they are too ugly and if only they could switch bodies with a Chad they would do so well: they wouldn't because a woman would be interested in them for being attractive and after 2 minutes of awkward dull conversation she is going to lose all interest. These guys think that if they were magically as good looking as Bradly Co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 06:54 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?I agree. If a woman matches with you and the conversation is dull and boring, she will unmatch you and certainly is not going on a date with you or meeting in person. Even a top 10% person has to have some social skills to have dating success. Women don't work like men where they would sleep with you just for being hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 06:46 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?I just shake my ass in the club and the women come running over wanting to get a piece of my hot stuff. So many that it is overwhelming | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 06:20 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?Absolutely words and communication work differently in person. I was never huge on electronic communication and found communicating with women in person far easier than the apps. Humor goes a long way and nonverbal communication also is huge. Plus there is such a huge difference actually being a real person in front of a woman than a profile that might be a bot. She can see what you are about and you can win a lot of points that you won't get on tinder. Also in person you are competing against y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 06:19 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?I agree that just looking good isn't enough if you cannot hold conversation and lack even a basic level of charisma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 06:16 AM |
| 2 | Why should a man focus on building up his personality(as long as he has basic social skills) when there are 4 or 5 other factors that are more important to attracting a woman?Attracting and keeping a woman are 2 different things. she might initially be interested but if you have no empathy and are a terrible person, it's not going to last long, or be soothing positive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 04:08 AM |
| 2 | Dating culture advice from women is Null. Because they also participate while giving the exact opposite advice.No but it is positive reinforcement compared to getting none. Imagine going on dating apps and getting either zero or almost no likes week after week. Not my experience but for half of men that is. Getting dozens of likes, regardless of if these men want to actually date her and not just sleep with her, is more than nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 03:58 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?Also, Karma is my boyfriend- even though I am a completely straight male | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 03:55 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?Nobody says that. People are attractive to quality and will gravitate towards that. Be it cars, restaurants, or people- we want what is the most desirable. Just like a poor person thinking anything less than a Ferrari is unacceptable, a person who has no concept of how desirable on a dating market, is likely to make decisions that don't go well. Self awareness goes a long way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 03:55 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?i have said the same thing too many times. Guys who are not doing well on online dating need to go out and meet women in person. Online dating works for a low percentage of men so go meet them in person where the attributes that online date don't support (meaning everything but looks and height and job title) will be able to be demonstrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 03:53 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?You are being dramatic. Almost anyone going to the guy to do some lifting and cardio will end up looking better. More toned and bigger muscles will help with this. The only way a guy is a waste of time is if you walk on the treadmill at slow speed for hours or lift very low weight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 03:51 AM |
| – | Case study: A top 10% man who has it all. Why aren’t women interested in him?I would guess that the guy has no game and no ability to talk to women in a way that is interesting or exciting. Assuming he is all the qualities you say, if he cannot hold a conversation it isn't going to go anywhere. A hot dude who is boring to talk to for women just means that they will lose interest very quickly because he is so dull to talk too. Also what is he doing in his free time? If he plays 60 hours of Call of Duty a week, he isn't coming into contact with women, or at least women he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/24 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Dating advice by men, for women?Some of those pieces are coming from a place of negativity, but some of them are not insane. Going after the hottest guy will make getting commitment harder. That isn't wrong. I agree that saying sexual coercion isn't real, is just stupid because it is a thing that shouldn't be done. What guys SHOULD be saying is having realistic expectations for a partner and too many people male and female are in denial greatly overestimating how attractive they are and it makes dating a nightmare. Be realisti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Dating advice by men, for women?I think men are generally more honest with women because men have shown (back by studies) that they engage in must less repetitional management with things we say. Men can be much more honest and straight to the point. I think men do a much better job of being real about things we don't like, where women engage in much more coping and denial with this that affect them negatively emotionally. Men will tell women the truth in what we want and believe. I think this is the biggest reason that men an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 04:27 AM |
| 21 | Dating culture advice from women is Null. Because they also participate while giving the exact opposite advice.I don't generally get dating advice from women because I rarely meet a woman who has any understanding of what life is like in the dating world for men. A woman can be not that pretty, very overweight, with a not so great personality and get a decent number of likes on a dating site. A guy has to be pretty decent to get a large number of likes. It is hard for women to realize that there is so many more challenges for men to be viewed as desirable. The second issue is that women rarely will admit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 02:27 AM |
| 3 | How often does being the “backup plan” lead to a successful new relationship?You can be a choice she prefers over her relationship making you the first choice. Say she met you long after her current relationship started with the current dude and wants you over the current BF. That would make you her first choice over her current guy. The bigger problem is a person with a complete lack of loyalty. She sees men as tools to give her what she needs and discards them the second she thinks she can find different or better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 02:19 AM |
| 1 | How often does being the “backup plan” lead to a successful new relationship?A woman who leaves someone for you will do the same thing to you for someone else. It is her emotional wiring and the strategy she uses to deal with a relationship that isn't working. That wiring and response doesn't just stop just because she is in a new relationship. found those out the hard way | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 02:17 AM |
| 1 | How often does being the “backup plan” lead to a successful new relationship?The backup plan rarely works. Usually the guy is either a total simp who is willing to profess his feelings and dedication for a woman while she returns none of the effort, feelings, or validation. The other scenerio is the guy just wants to sleep with her and will make promises he has no intention of keeping. Maybe the guy is more desirable than her boyfriend, it also means he has options and very likely may not be keen on giving the woman the same relationship as the boyfriend she is consideri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/24 02:15 AM |
| 2 | Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assaultThe part is that this standard of 'drunk sex is rape' is never used in reverse. I don't even know a situation where a woman has been accused of rape by having sex with a man because he was too drunk to give consent. I agree with the DEI consultants and what you said how they exists to promote their own interests. They will never admit that much of this stuff is the exact type of scenario I mentioned where 2 drunk people who don't know how to communicate and don't have much experience with sex ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 03:33 AM |
| – | Women promote ridiculous and overly broad definitions of sexual assaultThe issue is that what someone calls 'sexual assault' and concentual sex can often come down to a definition of how the woman feels about the encounter. Ill give an example: Situation 1: A male and female college student go back to her apartment after drinking and start making out in bed. They get undressed and he uses his hand on her. She is enjoying this but does not want to go any further and have sex. She doesn't tell him this and feels that the man is pressuring her to have sex. The guy isn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 02:38 AM |
| 1 | A 40 year old woman switches bodies with her 20 year old daughter. Which of them do you think more men would want to date?the mind of the person whose body it is. I was being sarcastic about wanting the grandmother | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Are Red Pill and Blue Pill Defined Differently Than They Used To?I think it's about how these ideas see the world and what they do. RP used to be more about pickup artists and understanding social and evolutionary psychology and how to act and talk to women in ways that made people successful. Now I think RP has different aspects where one is still the ideas of spinning plates and meeting women. The other part is the idea of seeing women and dating for how things really work, not the way that society and the media will lie to you. Personally, I advocate for R… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 01:50 AM |
| 3 | Men should stop asking women for adviceThanks. I call it like it is and tell what I have seen. Too much of the conversation on here is people who either have never dated, or people who see it from a perspective of only the present of someone who is younger. Time gives the ability to see and compare and watch as the changes happen. But yeah, I think taking advice from women on dating has nearly no value. Often it is worse than not getting their advice at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 01:42 AM |
| – | Men should stop asking women for adviceI think the bigger reason it is stupid for men to ask them for advice is because women will give advice based on what they (women) see as their ideal self, not their actual self. Women want to see themselves as smart, enlightened, worldly, deep. They will tell you answers that reflect how they want to be perceived, not what is actually true. This may not even be on a conscious level. I saw one study (no I am not going to spend 20 minutes finding a link) that had women rate from choices on a list… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 01:28 AM |
| – | A 40 year old woman switches bodies with her 20 year old daughter. Which of them do you think more men would want to date?Is the 65 year old grandmother an option? I would prefer the 65 year old grandmother unless the 90 year old great grandmother is available. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 01:12 AM |
| 7 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.That's not a conversation. I mean have a conversation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 06:10 AM |
| – | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.Dedication to trolling? Some people are dedicated to strange things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:40 AM |
| – | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.I actually struggled to comprehend most of it because it was so rambling and incoherent. I don't think it was a serious post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:14 AM |
| 3 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.What kind of therapy perspectives is your therapist using on you? I'm guessing CBT, Gestalt, and psychoanalysis? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:12 AM |
| – | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.Or learn basic social skills. That might work too. Just reading this post, I wonder how this person would even do in a conversation with a woman if she saw him and was interested walking over to talk. Based on the OP, I don't think it would go well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:10 AM |
| 9 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.It was kind of entertaining like watching a drunked dude smoking dope struggling to stand up while he is yelling at an invisible person. Both terrifying and kind of poetic in the way that it is so unhinged | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:08 AM |
| 10 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.You just don't seem understand sex or women on a very fundamental level. Your ideas are as if an alien came to earth and without ever meeting or studying them, just formed ideas of what they were like based on a few random descriptions of what they wrote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:07 AM |
| 7 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.Funny and ridiculous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:06 AM |
| 1 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.Sex is oppressive just like eating and showering. If I had no sex drive, I would accomplish more than Einstein. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:05 AM |
| 3 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.SSRI's are mostly horrible for sex drive. Biggest reason patients don't take them as prescribed. Buprion is the one exception. Not sure why that matters for this sub or any actually | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:03 AM |
| 4 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.I bet you would be a sex god if only you were having it. Women would be screaming in so much pleasure that most would completely lose their voices and only be able to talk in a whisper after | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:02 AM |
| 2 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.Don't lump us into that please! Most guys do not think that way or have that bad of an understanding of human nature | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:01 AM |
| 4 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.If it was that shit they wouldn't be having it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:00 AM |
| – | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.Thats fairly accurate. The OP was one of the most incoherent and deranged posts I've seen in awhile. Its almost too ridiculous to even comment on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 05:00 AM |
| 2 | I think people need to accept the fact women just don't enjoy sex.Is this post meant to be satire in a hilarious sort of way? Just because women do not want sex with you does not mean they don't want it with anyone. If that was the case there would be a lot more female virgins out there. The rest of the post was too incoherent to even make a response to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/24 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older?Yeah. If she is an escort or he is some rich Hollywood dude, all bets are off because those are very unique atypical situations. If you are incredibly rich all bets are off | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 06:21 AM |
| 4 | Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older?I guess it depends. I usually have won them over. In some ways they like they I'm not an idiot loser her own age with no drive or ambition. Just depends on the type of people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older?So what does it matter if these old gross dudes keep getting rejected? Let them since they aren't having success anyways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 06:17 AM |
| 33 | Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older?It's kind of true. Date a woman 10 years younger than you where she is under 25 and it will take some work to gain trust from those in her camp. Its not impossible though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 03:00 AM |
| 3 | Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older?I am over 30 and I can run a faster mile that most 20 year olds and bench press as well. I am also drastically more educated and know more about a lot of topics. My bank account also is better than almost every 20 year old who isn't born to rich parents. I have never seen these gross fat men stereotypes ever get a woman in her early 20s. It's guys like myself who stay in shape and do something with our lives. I've never seen one example of some fat bald loser pulling a hot 22 year old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 02:59 AM |
| 2 | Have you noticed the only ones who seem to care about age gap relationships are older or less desirable women, and they only care when the man is older?I can say being over 30 that meeting 21-23 year olds is now easier at my age than it was when I was that age. I am not rich either. For men to keep in shape and age well really isn't that difficult. Go to the gym to life and eat healthy to keep on muscle and avoid getting fat. Men can keep looking very good and physically hardly decline from their early 20 to 40 if they keep at it. I have found that early 20s women appreciate a guy with confidence, someone who is knowledgable, has his life toget… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 02:55 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.You do the same thing as the feminists forums, focus of the worst examples and use that to label all men as bad as humanely possible. Maybe a lot of people like myself agree that pitting genders against each other is stupid and doesn't actually solve anything. It just makes dialogue that much worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:51 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.You think a grizzly bear is going to ignore you if it is very close to you in the forest? You think a 7 foot tall hungry brown bear is going to leave you alone in a forest, or if it has cubs nearby? Go to Alaskan wilderness without a gun and test your theory. Good luck to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:47 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.You are absolutely right that even disagreeing with female sentiment that a bear makes more sense than a male will make them come at you with vitriolic rage because how dare your challenge her feelings as a privileged male oppressor! I argued with a woman I know in person about this saying anyone who picks a bear is making a horrible decision. Discussed how if it is a Grizzly, there is a 100% chance of death because no human can fight one off or outrun them, and how a Brown bear either means dea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:45 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.You have a tag saying you hate people, and you are calling everyone else severely damaged and unhinged? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:38 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.They don't have a fucking clue. It is as surface level as saying all men have privilege and we are depraved violent psychos out to harm and hurt every woman we see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:37 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.They are the same umbrella of conflict theory ideologies that produce a rigid flawed viewed of the world, and have idiotic ways they claim will lead to 'liberation' of these oppressed groups. Guess what, they aren't oppressed. We elected a black president 16 years ago and he won his 2 elections by higher margins than any of the other 4 elections held this millennium. Sorry but America is not remotely close to as racist as these people want to believe. Every company alive constantly panders to th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:36 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.I would say that Marxism is the most illogical ideology that I have seen that is followed by more than a few people. I would say that feminism, which borrows many aspects of marxism just switching the class struggle to one of a gender based struggle, is number 2 for illogical philosophical frameworks that no thinking sane person should take seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:32 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.It is woke intersectionality in action where tons of groups brand themselves as 'victims' and then use this identity to then attack anyone they feel has wronged them under the umbrella of 'liberation'. It is the change in modern times that being a victim is viewed by progressives as itself being justification of taking power and entitlement. In the past it was a call to change, not a badge of honor that made people worthy of any power. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:27 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.It's more about not wanting to take any accountability or ownership of any shortcomings or problems women have collectively or individually that is motivating this. You can see this by the endless number of blatant double standards of feminism. They attack men for being arrogant, hyper sexualized, uncaring, and all about themselves as individuals as toxic masculinity- but they will then call a woman who displays these exact same behaviors and attitudes, strong and empowering. They are hypersensi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:24 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.Feminists know what they know and don't let your facts or logic get in the way of their feelings. They are the most sexist members of society I have ever come in contact with, which is ironic as all hell considering they for a second wouldn't tolerate the male equivalent of themselves who says the same things but in reverse attacking women. They will justify this obvious double standard like they do everything else, with an appeal to how women are just poor helpless victims. Of course these same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:16 AM |
| – | Women's spaces have a hard time trying view men as human.Read Feminist website articles and the trend I got was this attitude that men were just irredeemable at our baseline and if we manage to become super woke and 'understanding' and 'supportive' of feminism and its asinine talking points, we will rise to the status of being just tolerable. They are usually sly in the way that they describe and characterize men as to not usually blatantly say how much they detest and despise anyone who is male. They will phrase it as every man having many aspects of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 05:13 AM |
| 1 | If women hit the wall, according to men, would it be in a young woman's best interest to NOT date older men?A guy who is 40 will appreciate a woman who is 30 because he is just glad she is physically and emotionally more desirable than women his age; also the 30 year old can still have kids unlike most women at 40. A guy at 30 is less likely to value a 30 year old woman because he can probably get much more desirable 25 year olds. It depends what women want. I found that women in their mid 20s like me more after 30 than when I was that age. As a guy you gain confidence, learn things, have worldly expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/24 12:44 AM |
| – | Men, why won't you commit?I feel like the emotional damage many of these women have at that age is too much to overcome. Most have had their share of situation ships and heartbreaks from chasing guys out of their league who won't stick around. They don't trust men and you will pay the price from all their past romantic failures. I don't feel like most of these women at that age will work as anything other than seeing casually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 11:29 PM |
| – | Men, why won't you commit?I won't go on a second date with an avoidant woman. It is their wired response on how they connect with you emotionally. Avoidants are so damn difficult because they want to be connected, but it scares them so much that they sabotage the relationship in various ways. I have made the mistake of dating these women in the past and never again. The issue is that most women by 30 on dating apps are either avoidant or anxious. I've been on those dates where it is so obvious they have clear emotional d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Men, why won't you commit?It is her problem but she can make it yours by retaliating or accusing you of anything and everything. She can go on the one of those women only facebook groups where they ask if their partner is cheating or about guys on apps, and say whatever she wants about you. It is her problem and she can act however she wants and it then is yours | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 11:23 PM |
| 6 | Men, why won't you commit?Exactly. I've been on dates and usually within 5 minutes it is obvious why the person is still single. Not over ex, emotionally unstable, mental disorders, entitled brat, love avoidant personality type- you pick up on them quick. The surprising thing in those is that they seemed completely normal when matching on apps and messaging before the date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Why do people associate being a provider with power/dominance? It's just not the case any more.Big difference. Moving on from a dead spouse is different that a job that doesn't value you to begin with. These men probably loved their spouses and cared for them while they were there. Businesses on the other hand don't even care for you when you are working for them. World of difference there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:39 AM |
| – | Men, why won't you commit?Thats probably the biggest truth. Chances of finding someone in their 30s who is so great that you want to put a ring on it is rather low. The dating pool quality change from age 25 to 30 was a massive drop. Most of the desirable women by then were either married or in long term relationships. The unstable and undesirable ones would always get recycled back in and the pool just becomes a disaster at some point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:28 AM |
| 2 | Men, why won't you commit?Communication works great until someone has feelings and then it all becomes a ver different situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:25 AM |
| 2 | Men, why won't you commit?That stuff never ends well. I've been on that side too many times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:24 AM |
| – | Men, why won't you commit?Usually women will lie to you and tell you they want something casual or are not looking for something serious when they in fact are. They do this to not come on too strong and scare the guy away. I have been in this situation too many times where after some time of seeing her she then will want a relationship, in spite of telling you that she didn't and being just fine with you saying you didn't either at that time. She will want a relationship because she FEELS attached to you and will be upse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:23 AM |
| 15 | Men, why won't you commit?The reason is that we are concerned for ourselves in the future because picking the wrong woman to marry or have children with can ruin the life of a man. As a guy who worked hard to get where I am, marrying the wrong woman can undo a lifetime of hard work to get to this point. Look at divorces how women are filing for 75% of divorces and look at the disproportional amount of alimony women get. As a man, that means I could have a woman divorce me and take half my net worth instantly, and be payi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 03:21 AM |
| – | Why do people associate being a provider with power/dominance? It's just not the case any more.Most businesses and corporations do. Do you think your job (whatever it is) would be truly crippled if you left? Would they not find someone to replace you in a few weeks or a month who does about the same without significant changes in the company relatively soon after? I know almost nobody male or female who can say that. If they can it is usually because they work for a very small business or company and have a large influence as a result, but even they are replaceable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Why do people associate being a provider with power/dominance? It's just not the case any more.They identified as feminists, read feminists books, and cited feminist mantra. Seems like they would fit the label. I have obviously met women in my life who were not intolerable mysandrists | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/24 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Why do people associate being a provider with power/dominance? It's just not the case any more.I've met dozens of feminists in my life and probably about 4 out of 5 are hard core mysandrists. They blame men for everything and never take any personal responsibility for their personal problems or for women collectively. It's inspiring how they go from strong empowered independent women when talking about their capabilities, and suddenly claim to then be helpless victims when it comes to taking accountability for anything. This is most of the ones I have ever met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Question for women who have/had hookups & FWB: What's your perception of men who can only get sex in a relationship?Lots of guys have no game where they just cannot hold a conversation with a woman that isn't boring or awkward. These guys are going to struggle because women are far less looks based than men and like to connect verbally. Having no game makes getting casual sex a big challenge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Why do people associate being a provider with power/dominance? It's just not the case any more.I don't get it. At least the husband cares about her and is a team. Corporations see everyone as replaceable and will do so the second they think it benefits them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/24 01:35 AM |
| 2 | Why do people associate being a provider with power/dominance? It's just not the case any more.It goes with the feminism framework of always seeing women as victims whenever it suits their narrative. It's how they see slaving away at a crap job as liberating while having a husband who makes more as oppressive. Working as a ant in a business who doesn't care about you and can instantly replace you is more freeing than being married to a man and having a family and being a team. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/24 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Prove me wrong Male Gold diggers are more worse then Female gold diggersThere the same thing but somehow our society thinks differently when the woman has the money. Its a ridiculous double standard. Even worse is most single women are explicit in how much money matters to them because they will tell you how they they won't date someone who doesn't make at least a certain amount, or who makes less than them. In my experience, very few men, and particularly successful men, look at dating this way. Such emphasis on income that women have when looking at a partner is n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 11:29 PM |
| – | Prove me wrong Male Gold diggers are more worse then Female gold diggersThese men do exist, but they as a percentage are far less frequent than female gold diggers. I had a male friend change his occupation on tinder from an average unremarkable job to doctor and magically he got around 5 times as many likes the next week with the same pictures and everything else kept the same. I'm sure its because he just happened to magically get far more attractive in an instant... A woman changing her occupation like that won't even get twice as many likes because the vast majo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/24 11:26 PM |
| 3 | Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating.Apparently 2/3 Americans don't even have 500 dollars saved for an emergency fund. One of my friends changed his Tinder description fro 'sales associate' to 'anesthesiologist' and magically he happened to get about 5 times as many likes during the next several weeks. Same pictures and description other than that change. I'm sure him changing his job title from an okay income to a great income had nothing to do with the greater interest or how his SMV seemed to greatly rise.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 05:06 AM |
| 0 | Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating.They have shown that Americans who own a passport have a median income of around 100k, which is substantially higher than the income of all Americans on average. Buying a flight to Thailand, Phillapeans, or somewhere in Eastern Europe is not something that a dude working a mediocre job can typically afford. Maybe they are 'sex tourists', but these guys cannot be broke scrubs to have money to fly and do stuff there. These guys can't be that low SMV can they? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Is there a hill that you would die on when it comes to standards for a relationship?If the partner is endlessly entitled, if the partner undermines my success in what I am trying to achieve (and have been doing so for years), a partner who resents me or feels she can do better than me, a person who is selfish, a person who wants me for what I can do for her life (and not me as a person). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/24 01:02 AM |
| 3 | How Women Actually Use Dating AppsMost medical specialties are making over 350k USD per year, and many make double that. Maybe the best of the best salesmen in the right areas can do that- but thats top 1% performance there by guys who are just amazing at it. Everyone says they want to be a doctor because of the salary, and not looking at the endless school, very challenging school, endless pressure, and a career that is rarelly relaxing. Theres benefits, but most people don't want anything to do with the gritty parts that aren'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Do you think the red pill community destroyed the concepts of "alpha males"?It did screw it up because now everybody either wants to be, or self-proclaims to be an alpha when most are nowhere close. Its like the concept of 'high value woman'. What woman would want to see herself as low value compared to high value? The answer is none so now the vast majority of women claim to be high value and special, when very few actually are. The whole thing is stupid because someones dating market value has nothing to do with what they think it is in the sense that proclaiming or f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:48 AM |
| 7 | How Women Actually Use Dating AppsI had a friend do something similar changing his job from 'sales associate' to 'anesthesiologist'. Shockingly his number of matches over the next week were about 3-4 times more!! That really was shocking to me. I also noticed that a way higher percentage of matches sent him a message first, and many more of the matches responded to his first messages. Shows what really matters on these apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:39 AM |
| 1 | Do women often marry men that they don't passionately love?As a guy in my 30s I would say that I know women my age who have dated guys they are not attracted too because they want to be mothers and do it while married to someone. Several of these women go between going the men they are attracted too who rarelly view these women as more than hooks ups or friends with benefits types arrangements, meaning wont give them committed relationships because these guys have better options, and dating the guys who will date and have relationships with them who are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 04:14 AM |
| 2 | Opinion on a woman saying she'll take anyone at this point ?Women saying this is about the psychology behind it and not what the words actually mean. It is her finding a way to take no responsibility for her shortcomings, her poor decisions, or feelings of entitlement wanting someone better than herself for keeping her single. She is placing blame that there just are no guys than can meet her bare minimum expectations that are completely reasonable. It is the motivation to not have to look in the mirror and have any sense of real reflection | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:57 AM |
| 3 | Opinion on a woman saying she'll take anyone at this point ?That is the point. If her standards finally did reflect the truth that she isn't that desirable herself, she would actually find a guy willing to date her. She is still single because her standards are still way above what she brings to the table and rather than admit she is entitled wanting better than herself, she is placing external blame on there being no men who can meet very low reasonable standards. She is saying she holds no blame or responsibility for being single and not finding the ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:55 AM |
| 8 | Opinion on a woman saying she'll take anyone at this point ?Its her way of saying "its not my fault I am single because my standards are not unreasonable, there are just no men who can meet my reasonable standards". Its a way of getting away form having to take any accountability for why her previous dating and relationship decisions have no got her the relationship she wanted, and putting these failures to her being a victim of circumstances out of her control. She just cannot find anyone even with her very reasonable non-superficial standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Opinion on a woman saying she'll take anyone at this point ?I've known some women who used that line or something like wishing she could be on the show 'married at first site', where a team of matchmakers and psychologists match people where the first time they meet is at the wedding. These women who say these things are usually the pickiest where they have a long list of things they expect in a partner, and show themselves to be the most fickle at eliminating potential partners. These women are trying to make it seem like she is open to anything but the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?Then what is your point? Any ideology that toxic will motivate far higher numbers of people to do far more levels of harm and destruction. That is what I am trying to point out. The umbrella of the TRP isn't that or even close to that. Instead of just admitting they don't like TRP (almost all women don't in my experience) and disagree with it, people are acting like it is some massive force for evil on this planet when the numbers do not remotely support that argument. I just want some trace of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?1.5 incidents a year for content read by tens of millions of people, so clearly banning it is the only solution. Far more sports fans get into violent clashes with opposing sports fans so lets ban all sports to solve that issue! Far more people are killed by their refridgerators a year so lets ban them! 2 people in the US are killed each year by sharks so lets ban people from every beach! Random falling trees in forests kill a few people a year so lets ban all people for entering forests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 02:34 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?12 whole entries on that page over the course of 10 years.... 1.2 incidents a year is clearly that is mass violence. Thats almost 1.2 incidents a year for TRP that is read by 10s of millions of men. Lets think critically for a second and use our brains and ask the question if it makes sense that this ideology is so toxic that less than 1 in a million people who has seen the content acts in this way? Does that actually make any sense? Is it a remote possibility that such a relative low rate of vi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?If TRP was even 1% as toxic as the people on here claim then there would be more than around 20 cases in the last 10ish years of guys enacting violence because they were inspired by the ideology. Even calling TRP an idiology is inaccurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:58 AM |
| 5 | The idea that men are "low effort" is literally projection from female-dating communities.They would probably hate it. Most women don't understand why dating is so hard for men and why sex is a big deal for men because it is so easy for them by comparison. A woman could message 10 random dudes she never met to hook up that night and 8 probably say yes. They don't understand that it takes work for men to have options and be desirable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:51 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?Because guys having girl problems is apparently completely uncommon. It doesn't matter. The number of individuals who were supposedly inspired to do evil is AT MOST a couple dozen over the course of a decade. The people pushing this crap are trying to exploid less than 20 distrubed men over a long period of time to imply that any message telling men information society lies to them about, is truly toxic and irredeemable. It is a horseshit argument that deliberately attempts to avoid any attempt … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:48 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?That could describe half of men in their 20s. Guess than is enough to push their narrative. What a joke. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?Reread it please. I'm saying that describing something as 'mass violence' when at best you can find less than a few dozen lunatics across the world over the last decade who meet this criteria is just slightly misleading of a statement. Last I check a few dozen people or less over 10 years isn't a mass anything. Its an isolated phenomena of the most unhinged people imaginable. But intellectual honesty is a detriment when it comes to pushing narratives. The people who have already called the Sydne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:39 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?I haven't heard one media source saying anything about him wanting a girlfriend or sexual frustration. Everyone is more than happy to jump to conclusions to support a narrative. Why be foolish and wait for evidence when you have an agenda to push!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:31 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?You think that most men are so narrow minded that they think there is no counterexamples to every narrative? Nobody is dumb enough to think that. TRP is about avoiding bad traits and finding good ones. By definition of avoiding bad traits, it would have to mean that these cannot be universal because they couldn't be avoided otherwise. If anything was universal in that regard there would be no advice to give because nobody could avoid it anyways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:30 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?A university social science joke of a paper. I spend enough time in my life in that world enough to tell you that anything not perfectly politically correct will never get published. Other than that its the typical nonsense of taking the most extreme example and making everyone out to be that. Of course take the most toxic feminists (or even the average one) with their blatant mysangry and suddenly the conversation is how most feminists are not mysandrists and these are only the 'extremists'. Fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:27 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?It is not saying that every woman is any way. Women are different as are men. It is saying that a large number of women will have certain ideas and behave in certain ways. Also says women will have values and ideas due to evolutionary psychology and the impacts of modern culture. Providing information that isn't always the most cheery isn't 'raging'. Telling people to avoid scams isn't 'raging' against scams. I could go on with endless examples. If it comes to women and dating, apparently any in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:22 AM |
| – | The idea that men are "low effort" is literally projection from female-dating communities.The women who bitch about low effort do so because attacking men and dating culture is easier than her taking any sense of accountability to acknowledge why she hasn't found the relationship she wants. Last time I was on the apps I was astonished how many of the women would shit on all men and make themselves into the victim as if they are only single because there are no good men out there and its not her fault in any way! Its never that these women have emotional damage, are entitled brats, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:16 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?When people say 'mass' anything, it is applied that this is something like millions or tens of millions of people are into something be it fashion, a game, protests, social movements. Saying 'mass violence' is saying that it is breaking out everywhere and affecting untold millions of people. Even if the Sydney nutcase was affected by TRP (which at this point nobody has actually provided evidence other than speculation) that would be 1 lunatic in the world. More to the point is that the detractor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:11 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?Its not about raging. Its about giving advice to men about how the world works and how women work so they don't make the mistakes that too many men before them did. It is about avoiding the type of women that will use them and cause them massive damage. Its not more about 'raging' against women than someone warning others about the dangers of buying a timeshare is 'raging' against the timeshare industry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:06 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?I am still waiting on a source from anyone. To this point its just random claims being made trying to tie him to a community. The investigation has just began and not official findings have been released. Even most of his past is unknown other than he just got to New South Wales from Queensland and he has some mental illness that was not named. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?Where is the evidence of this? Is there a source because I am yet to see it other than random claims people are making | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:03 AM |
| – | Should the manosphere be held accountable for misogynistic mass violence?The investigation into the Sydney stabber has just started and I am yet to hear one piece of evidence that he was in any ideology or participated in anything. The only thing people are talking about is that he had some type of mental illness and had some association with Queensland, what exactly is yet to be shown. For you to say that he did those evil acts because he is a member of whatever community, when none has been shown, shows exactly what you post is a bad faith discussion where you take… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/24 01:02 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?It depends on how the conversation is communicated. If the guy knows there is a 0% chance he would have a relationship with that woman, yet tells her he is just taking it slow and seeing what happens- while she makes it clear she wants a relationship, that would be manipulative behavior on his part. I think what happens more is women will go on dates with men they like, and could see them as boyfriends, and sleep with these men because they know that sex is easy to get for desirable men and thes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 03:50 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?To say that men have destroyed the women is not exactly the whole story. Look how many women tell other women to 'find yourself' and 'have a hoe phase'. Women encourage other women (and men) to enjoy the promiscuity of modern dating. Much of the time the men are giving the women the casual fun they want. So many women by their early 20s have slept with 15+ men. Unless those women were looking for relationshps from every one of them, it means that the guys were giving them the casual fun the wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 03:44 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?You nailed it with the point, "the fact that more and more women age out of men’s desired age preference every year and few girls age into their preference." That is what I have seen where the percentage of decent women in the dating pool seems to decline every year. I get the logic how the love avoidants and unstable people are not likely to have successful relationships and get thrown back into the pool constantly while the desirable ones will be taken out either in marriages or long term rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 03:40 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?Its too much of a liability and a lot to take on before a guy even knows if things will work. Its a difficult situation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 03:32 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?Also it is not one of the poorer areas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 01:04 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?No. I live in a suburb less than 20 minutes outside of a top 10 most populous city in the US with a overall population in the millions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 01:04 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?I don't think I would say that it necessarily is that different. The women I know who dated dudes with kids described the same issues that my guy friends who have dated women with kids discuss. You have a person who is responsible for another person and this child makes planning difficult and costs money and time. I guess one difference from the people I know is that the women were not dating broke guys with kids. The men with kids the women dated were generally making at least 80k or more which… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 01:03 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?If I was willing to date a single mother, I would rather date one who at least is mature enough to have a relationship with the father as opposed to one who either got knocked up by a deadbeat idiot who abandoned her or a woman who cuts the dad out of the life of the kid out of vindictiveness. If a woman cuts a father out of the life of a kid (who wants to and is trying to see his kid) that is a black flag alert that this woman is not dating or relationship material. She is just a bad person at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 12:55 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?The men are pieces of shit if they willfully abandoned their kids, nobody is saying otherwise. The issue is that I as a man don't have to date those men. If I dated those women the issues become mine and it opens up a whole can of worms involving a kid that I would take on more and more responsibilities for as the relationship progressed, yet have no actual legal rights or assurance that the mom doesn't completely remove this kid from my life forever if we happen to get close in time. Its just a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 12:52 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?Even if you adjust some of those to maybe doesn't have blue or bright red hair, is at least paying her student loans, has few tattoos or not many visible tattoos, (and keeping all the rest of the criteria you mentioned like mental health, no kids, feminine) you still are going to get at best maybe 6-8% of women. I think myself and most men are open to some compromise. I have had exes who had a couple small tattoos hidden and died hair to be a naturish color, or voted democrat. We will compromise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 12:49 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?Finding even half of these is nearly impossible, and thats not even getting into core problems with women in the dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 12:40 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?Its a disaster in the US. To find a women who isn't fat, no kids, not a terrible personality, no major mental issues, not totally jaded with dating, who late 20s or older- is like finding a diamond in your backyard. The women I have seen in places outside the US are far more desirable. They are not so fat and have not been ruined by the toxicity of modern feminism. They don't have such extreme entitlement and godess complexes either. Any guy who has the means should look at dating elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 12:39 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?I think the number of these women is shockingly low. Go on major apps to age 30 and up and over half of real profiles will be heavily overweight or obese. That leaves around 50% of the not fat crowd where many will be single moms or divorced with kids. Of the remaining, many will not be attractive. Take the final slice of pretty, not fat, no kids you will finally have the potential issues of emotional issues, entitled brat, no earning potential where you as a the guy carry all the financial resp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 12:19 AM |
| – | How many minimum value women even exist in the US?Those women don't wnat a man who isn't fat and childless, they want a man who isn't fat, childless, makes WAY better money than them, is more attractive than them, and works out more than them. The women by and large are not looking for an equal. I have seen so many times where a woman isn't fat with okay face, not saying she is toned or works out, where she thinks just that makes her 8.5+ where she can demand a top tier dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/24 12:14 AM |
| 0 | Defeatism and misplaced priorities on one’s preferences is why many of the men on here struggleI have commented in past articles that men struggling need to change what they are doing and get off on line dating, and I have gotten so many responses how women hate being approached, it never works, they have tried and failed, and so on. I don't understand the logic of people who keep doing the same thing that fails yet refuse to change anything or try something different. I suggest learning better communication skills because this helps with women as well as professionally. That will get pus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 12:37 AM |
| 3 | Women today are the ones slut shaming men and trying to control men's bodies.If you want to know what most women will believe at any point in life just ask the question of what would benefit her the most. Women 18-28ish when they are in their physical prime have no problem with men who sleep around because these women can attract tons of men and its not an issue. Fast forward to when they hit their epiphany phase usually occuring in late 20s to early 30s, you will how they then think that men who don't commit are immature and shame them for it. Its because when women get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/24 12:33 AM |
| 7 | Truth be told, as delusional as women are a man’s greatest enemy is always going to be the desperation of other men. No matter how well your deck is stacked, if you have standards there is always going to be someone willing to work harder than you for less. You simply cannot compete with this.The challenge is that more desirable people themselves have more options. There are fewer desirable people and these have way more options than undesirable people so the problem actually gets exponentially more challenging the more attractive partner someone aims more. But yeah, I agree that simps might as well be invisible to the women they chase, unless these women just use these guys for favors without giving them anything in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 01:27 AM |
| 5 | Truth be told, as delusional as women are a man’s greatest enemy is always going to be the desperation of other men. No matter how well your deck is stacked, if you have standards there is always going to be someone willing to work harder than you for less. You simply cannot compete with this.I don't get how men fail to see this. Women see a desperate simp as low value because why would anyone who had something to offer be so desperate for someone who didn't want them and riciprocated none of the attention or affection. These guys desperate for women who don't want them are that way because they don't have other options for a variety of reasons. Its not sexy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 01:07 AM |
| 2 | Truth be told, as delusional as women are a man’s greatest enemy is always going to be the desperation of other men. No matter how well your deck is stacked, if you have standards there is always going to be someone willing to work harder than you for less. You simply cannot compete with this.If that was true they would all be single. Most women aren't single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 01:03 AM |
| 7 | Truth be told, as delusional as women are a man’s greatest enemy is always going to be the desperation of other men. No matter how well your deck is stacked, if you have standards there is always going to be someone willing to work harder than you for less. You simply cannot compete with this.This take is wack. If your logic was sound it would mean that there would be no single women anywhere because they could just instantly go on a dating app and find someone desperate for her. The problem with that logic is that there are tons of single women and many are on the apps single in spite of getting ample messages. The reality is that the men 'desperate' for these women are the men that these women don't want. There is nothing sexy to a woman about a simp who has no self-respect and cha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/24 01:01 AM |
| 1 | There's just as many low quality Women as MenIts a stupid strategy that will leave a woman (or man) single. People cannot just will someone way more attractive than them to come and like the person if they don't want too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 09:11 PM |
| 2 | There's just as many low quality Women as MenIt means that they are maybe around average yet think they are 9s or 10s. Its them not knowing how desirable they are to men, or refusing to accept they are not as desirable as they wish they were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 09:08 PM |
| 48 | There's just as many low quality Women as MenThey do have problems because they want relationships from the men they are sleeping with above their level. They often are not interested in a guy on their level and want the dude who thinks enough of her to sleep with and not enough to commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 12:02 AM |
| 12 | There's just as many low quality Women as MenFeminists tend to get upset if you point that out. The 'average' woman in America is a size 14 and you go on Hinge or Tinder and you will find that probably half the women are obese because the ones who are in shape and generally more desirable and likely to find someone thus leaving the bigger ones. Just to find someone who looks like they hit a gyn more often than never, no kids, not having as many tattoos as a prisoner, not being severely mentally ill, and not having insecure attachment- is l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/24 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?The weaponization of therapy speak is over the top. Its taking every insecurity and emotional issue and twisting them to be 'boundaries' and about her standing up for her worth and needs. I didn't even get into the issue of dates feeling more like job interviews than a chance to actually get to know the person and see if we vibe. I just gave up and changed my age preference settings on the apps to 28 and younger. The pool of women I met was substantially better. I give this advice to men I know … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that most people cannot lower their standards biologically?I think people can come to terms and find positives about things, including the people they find attraction too. I've done the exercise with several single women I know asking about what they want and will find acceptable in a man. Every time its basically the same criteria: tall, good looking, humor, education, good income. I have pointed out to these women that this guy is definitely far less than 1% of all men and finding a guy who has all these characteristics is going to a be a challenge. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 12:22 AM |
| – | Men of the western society, I'd like to know if you're really not able to find even one decent woman out there?It isn't impossible to find a decent woman in the US, but after a certain age it feels damn near impossible. The dating pool always gets worse because the most desirable people, and those who are psychologically fit for a relationship are always being taken out of the dating pool because they have options and can make a relationship worse. After late 20s, most of the woman left are a disaster. As a guy I can tell you that the pool of women are practically undateable after 30. The average woman i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/24 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI agree that abuse and avoid toxic people who treat you like trash should always be present. I think these movements all seem to inevitably turn into this toxic version of the 6/6/6, be it the male or female 'empowerment' content. It seems to become how everyone is special, meaning they are highly desirable, and deserve someone highly desirable. If everyone is special, the word fails to have any meaning. We see someone who can bench press 400 pounds or a balerina who can stand on the tips of her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 09:13 PM |
| – | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkI think you are correct in how dating has changed (with your 6/6/6 example showing one way). Even this 'high value' partner stuff wasn't a think 10 or 15 years ago. I almost wonder if it has something to do with these self empowerment types of movements that are happening where so many people think they are such hot shit and deserve only the cream of the crop, regardless of how mediocre they might be themselves. I'm amazed how there are endless videos of these people who tell their audience that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 08:47 PM |
| – | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkIts a mountain in her mind only at that point. She sees a pile of dirt 5 feet high and thinks its Mount Everest. Thats my point, taking small things into a scale that is often not reasonable. I guess everyone has free will to decide what they want and vows be damned | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 08:43 PM |
| – | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkSounds like you know more reasonable people who take responsibility than I have. Maybe as people get older they become that way compared to their teens and 20s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:43 AM |
| – | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkOr maybe men just don't sweat the small stuff and internalize every last thing and make it into something it isn't. Maybe forgetting to move something is about having a lot on our mind and not an intentional act of hurting the other person. I feel like men do a far better job of contextualizing things and not making a molehill into a mountain, as the phrase goes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:28 AM |
| – | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkMaybe in your case it was communicated and he just didn't care to listen. I will also say that in my 30+ years of existence I cannot even remember 3 different occasions of a woman admitting that her actions were responsible, or mostly responsible, for why a relationship fell apart. I've heard at least 10 times a woman whose cheating broke the relationship apart actually blame the partner she cheated on for her cheating. Take what you want from that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/24 03:26 AM |
| 1 | In modern, western society men are always assumed to be the problem in relationshipsI can say that in my life I cannot remember even 3 instances when a woman talking about a breakup she was in said something in the line of how the breakup was entirely or largely her fault, or could have been prevented had she done something different. Men have to be accountable because society doesn't care how we feel and we will not get validation if we are not doing well. Many women (especially the more attractive ones) have no sense of accountability or responsibility because she has never b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 09:24 PM |
| – | Men are not blindsided by breakups/divorce as much as they thinkThere is very often a difference between what a woman says she communicated to a man and what she actually said. Often this is her saying a few comments here and there while in her mind it is her communicating what she wants and feels very explicitely and how she wants him to change. I have been on the receiving end of that scenerio as a guy many times feeling like the woman expected me to read her mind or make more sense of her lackluster communication that she did based on how badly it was com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 09:20 PM |
| 3 | Online dating has permanently damaged the way we perceive and value others, both online and offline.I don't think too many people would argue against this. The internet is meant to make money and you see this with dating and social media sites. Look at how much of the videos and content people consume is based on showing the exception things and individuals. Dating apps show you the most beautiful people because they want to convince users that they will get you that perfect partner you dreamed of. We see the lifestyles of the .1% of people who living in palaces and take 6 figure vacations. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/24 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?Older women attack the men who date younger women because it reinforces the truth they don't want to admit that younger women are more desirable in most of the things men generally prefer. Its a threat | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 08:22 AM |
| – | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?It has nothing to do with 'control/having the upper hand'. Its about finding a partner who is better because the truth is that the dating pool becomes worse and worse with age. The percentage of single women at 25 who would make good life partners is drastically higher than the percentage of women at 33 who would make good life partners. The reason is that most of the quality women are either married or in LTR by the age off 33. Left at that point is the love avoidants, the emotionally unstable,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?Its all the other things: success, confidence, maturity, knowledge, social positioning, income, being worldly. These things usually increase with age. A younger guy might have less wrinkles, but an older woman is going to be turned off with his lower maturity, lower success, and feeling like she is dating a child. Every female friend I have ever had who dated a younger guy has said the same things almost verbatem about how they really do not like that younger guys lack these things. Relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Do women have a wall for men but they are too embarrassed to admit it?I don't agree that women see men as havinf a wall unless it is some very large age gap situation where she is 25 and he is 55. Of all the age dynamic relationships, the ones I would say that generally work out the worst are older woman with younger man dynamics. They almost never work for a long amount of time, and if they do get married they often lead to divorce when the man is in his 30s/40s. The reason for this is that a man in his 40s who is desirable can get a woman 10 years younger than h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 07:10 PM |
| – | The fundamental problem that many men faceI have known men who have struggled with dating and they seem to end up with 2 different issues. They are either so frustrated that they cannot seem to find anyone, or they are so desperate to find someone that they fall for a woman so quickly and avoid really obvious red flags that will end up causing way more issues in the future with the woman. From what I can tell, by my late 20s it seemed like most of the remaining single women were looking for men better than themselves to where you had ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 04:28 PM |
| 6 | If we can agree hypergamy is realMost of the people 'dating up' will never admit such because doing so means having to acknowledge that he/she is entitled to someone better than themselves, and that they are not as good as that person. I've known too many women, and a few men, who are looking for someone better than themselves. Not a single one that I can remember has admitted to wanting someone better than themselves. They say 'wanting someone on my level'. I have heard many of these women do the copping phrases we all love: '… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsNot affecting me, sure. I guess its the point that I think it is destroying modern dating and this issue is causing greater societal issues. Most of the single women I know over 30 are strong feminists in part because resenting and hating men is a way for them to psychologically distance themselves from the fact that they are hurt by the fact that they cannot attract the amazing man they feel entitled too. Most of these women are shopping above their level in trying to get an elite man, but woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsThose videos are not that far from the truth. I am not sure I can consciously remember a woman I have met in the last 5 years who was complaining about dating would admitted she was either average or below average. Its like a study years ago where like 90% of college professors who filled out questionnaires said they thought their personal work was better than a majority of his or her collegues. Unless it is something with a crazy skew or specific phonemenon like 'average number of arms people h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsYou might be right on people attracting someone with relatively psychological health. Based on my male friends horrid stories of online dating where I just go WTF, I hope my friends are not that unhinged as many of the people they match with... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 11:36 PM |
| – | Being afraid to ask women personal questions is betaI would disagree that a high body count is good for men or women in the sense that it creats biochemical and emotional changes that are not helpful for having successful monogamous relationships. Women's biochemical feedback systems work by mainly releasing oxytocin and dopamine who it comes to sex. Having this done excessively by numerous partners will make the effect and ability to feel connection on a biochemical level, weaker. Countless partners also shows concern for various mental disorder… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 06:18 PM |
| 4 | People can't blame men for the " procedure" of dating when it wouldn't exist without their actionsIt is a bunch of entitlement. I will also point out that single women blamming men is a great way for them to not have to take any responsibility for why she is single. It is a woman saying 'there are no good men', as a way to not have to take any ownership or her issues, or how she feels entitled to a guy who is far better than her male equivalent. By trashing all men, woman can basically say to herself and the world that she is amazing and still single because there are no men on her level, ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsThe statistics show that each subsequent marriage after the first is less likely to succeed than the one before it. A person who couldn't make it work during first 2 marriages probably isn't going to do better on number 3. Regardless of marriages, I think it is also the inability to work successfully in the context of a committed relationship, be it married or unmarried. The skills to make a relationship work are the same as what it would take to make a marriage work. I think dating apps are lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 06:06 PM |
| – | Being afraid to ask women personal questions is betaIf someone is so sensitive about their past that merely asking a very reasonable question causes her to ghost you, it shows a person who is not remotely mature enough to be considered relationship material. Nobody has a perfect past without something they regret. Being an adult means coming to terms with it and being able to acknowledge it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:58 PM |
| – | Being afraid to ask women personal questions is betaA woman who acts like that is only going to attract very weak men who lack confidence an assertiveness. Probably also men who haven't achieved anything in life and never will. The comments of asking on the first date are a little rushed in my opinion. I think it should be asked when it feels right and the time is right, be it the first date or the 5th date. It should be asked before a relationship for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:57 PM |
| – | Being afraid to ask women personal questions is betaI think the unwillingness to ask, or the unwillingness to do anything about these answers is a move that men should not do. Too many men are so desperate for women that they fall head over heals so quickly for a woman who shows they some attention and spends time with them. This is a huge mistake men make. If I could tell my 18 year old self one piece of advice for dating it would be to not overlook things early in dating them because these small issues will become bigger issues the longer you a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:54 PM |
| – | If a man wouldn’t want the women in his life being in porn, then his feelings about porn are pretty anti-porn.This post is ridiculous. Wanting a relationship with someone who isn't screwing other people is not anti-porn. It is simply wanting someone who is intimate with you as you also commit to just being intimate with them. There is a huge difference in having a libertarian approach that maybe just because I don't want something, or like it, doesn't mean that we should make it so nobody should do it. If a man or woman freely and willfully wants to do porn and understands the consequences of their acti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:43 PM |
| 7 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsThe actual point is that entitlement is out of control. Its that women who are not special or even above average, think they deserve someone who is special. I know numerous women like this is my personal and professional groups. Its the so prevelent mindset that few people are willing to accept that they are not special. If a man or woman thinks he or she is going to get someone who is better looking than them, in better shape than them, is less emotionally damaged than them, and has better care… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:30 PM |
| 8 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsI think so. Dating apps past the mid to late 20s become a pool of rejects where those that either aren't that desirable or have emotional issues that make a healthy relationship impossible, keep getting recycled back into the dating pool while those who are capable and desirable get into relationships and thus are no longer in the dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsI don't think that is right with the 25 year old number. The average age a woman gets married in the US is 28.6 (see link below). I think a lot of women meet their partners in their mid to late 20s. Of the single women older than that I know, I would say most of them are still single because their expectations of a partner are way higher than the degree these women are considered desirable by these men. Its basically a 'perception gap'- the gap of how good she thinks she is compared to how goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:24 PM |
| 9 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsThe point these guys make is that scores of women are so entitled that they FEEL they are special. I rarelly ever have known a woman who would admit that she is below average, or even average. Its that women have been told by society and all these self esteem movements that they are special, regardless of how far from the truth that is. Each time I look at a buddy's tinder or hinge page it feels like I am looking at a joke where the women liking these profiles are massively overweight and just n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:21 PM |
| 5 | Western women and shaming gold-diggersThis is especially true when women hit their late 20s and are looking for husbands. Late teens, early 20s many women are more forgiving, but financial concerns become huge as she gets older and realizes the man she marries will have drastic effects on finances for the rest of her life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/24 06:31 PM |
| 15 | Western women and shaming gold-diggersWoman shame men for any attitude men have that doesn't benefit them. Say we want someone who isn't obese- thats body shaming, say we don't want someone who is damaged and entitled- that mysogynistic, say we don't want someone who has a body count of a Ted Bundy and can no longer pair bond effectively- we are slut shaming. I rarelly meet a woman late 20s and older who will either date a guy who makes less than her, or at least won't complain about it. This is shown to be true of woman of all econ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/24 06:28 PM |
| 1 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youMost of those people who had one night stands probably had more than a single one night stand. Most of the people I have ever met (men or women) who had a one night stand did it at least 5+ times. Its like someone who gets a speeding ticket, probably wasn't the only time they were ever speeding where they just happened to be unlucky and get caught. I don't think my experience and those of people I know are particularly uncommon | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 11:56 PM |
| – | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI get the logic that they have one night stands and relationships at different times. You specifically said 80% of the sex women under 30 were having was in relationships. Your claim is implying that one night stands are rate for women under 30, while at the same time showing that one night stands are in fact very common. Unless they are having these one night stands after 30, the logic falls through the floor. Most of the women I have known don't just go celibate between relationships. Unless y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 06:19 PM |
| – | If being a nice guy doesn't work, why do guys keep behaving like always losing nice guys?I personally act as antisocial as possible. I run people off the road while driving. I throw things at random strangers. Sometimes I even push elderly people off the electric scooters at the grocery store. These behaviors keep me from becoming the dreaded nice guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 12:41 AM |
| 2 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI've been involved with a variety of different research topics and my advice is for people to not view it as the end all truth. If you think bias and political correctness don't play a major part, you might be shocked. We only have to go a few years back to see the medical community deny that the vaccines were causing anyone harm, or death, because any questioning of such was not acceptable and would get you blocked on social media platforms. Could get into social science research and data minin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 11:38 PM |
| – | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI have seen a decent amount of the data and it is a mess with so many primary and secondary effects. The educated and financial factors really seem to make the most difference, which is not shocking because life is far less stressful when not being broke. I am speaking from what I have seen and too many successful men I have known who lost their asses in divorce. Also I am completely skeptical about the claim of 80% of women only sleeping with boyfriends. Maybe for women over 40 that is the case… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 08:21 PM |
| – | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI think you don't actually understand the issues you are attempting to explain. TRP is about not ending up in bad situations or relationships because of ignorance of not understanding how dating works or how women can work. It isn't expecting a woman who is a virgin and it isn't about expecting a 'perfect' partner. It is about understanding how dating dynamics work for men and how they work for women. Men and women have different biology and different ways of navigating dating as a direct result… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Women act like TRP is some kooky conspiracy theory rotting men’s brains but then tell bold faced lies like “maybe if you were nice to women and took a shower you would get a date.” This blatant dishonesty is the very foundation of red pill ideology.I think it is a question of if women (or people generally) have high enough self awareness to know what they want. I mean that what women claim they want in dating is quite often not what I have seen in my life. Its women saying they want a nice, caring, attentive guy and then watching her cheat on her boyfriend who has those characteristics, with some fuckboy who is none of those values she claims. I have seen that situation many times. Its seeing women who sleep with assholes on the first nigh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 07:35 PM |
| 12 | Women act like TRP is some kooky conspiracy theory rotting men’s brains but then tell bold faced lies like “maybe if you were nice to women and took a shower you would get a date.” This blatant dishonesty is the very foundation of red pill ideology.Giving advice and given good advice are 2 very different things. Giving terrible advice isn't of value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 01:41 AM |
| 8 | Women act like TRP is some kooky conspiracy theory rotting men’s brains but then tell bold faced lies like “maybe if you were nice to women and took a shower you would get a date.” This blatant dishonesty is the very foundation of red pill ideology.It isn't that. Its that men want the truth and not narratives that sound good but hold little in the form of reality. I think many men see how the world works with dating and that what they notice quite often goes against what men are told. That is where the questioning comes in. It is the difference in what women say they want and what they actually do and responde too. Nothing about that is about wanting step by step instructions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 01:40 AM |
| 1 | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenThe single women I know in my social circles over 30 are for the most part not doing well in dating. I have specifically noticed a cycle several of them engage in where they proclaim they 'know their worth' and 'will not settle' and struggle to line up dates. They then go to the other part of the cycle where they date the men who want to actually date them (as opposed to just casual hook ups), I mean men that are late 30s to early 40s many divorced with kids. These women thenare frustrated becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 11:36 PM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenI don't agree. I was on the apps several years ago and got into a relationship rather than keep dating a bunch of people, and I was getting a decent number of matches. Relationships are more rewarding that wasting so much time talking to too many women and dealing with all of it. You get more and better sex with someone in a relationship and get an actual emotional connection. The player lifestyle is overrated. A fulfilling relationship with a decent woman is always an upgrade over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 05:11 PM |
| 7 | When it comes to romantic, or frankly any kind of relationship, love must be conditional.Relationships are conditional at some level, even if it isn't explicitely said. Cheating is usually going to kill the love. Violence of a spouse is also something that will kill love an a relationship. When people say "I will always love you", it is unspoken implied that there are obvious criteria for unacceptable behavior that is understood and doesn't need to be said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 04:50 PM |
| 1 | What turned you off dating people you were initially interested in or had dates with?Mostly I look for psychological and emotional issues. Does she have insecure attachment? Does she have unstable or inconsistent behaviors? Is she likely to have a major mental disorder (bipolar, borderline, histrionic, major depression, narcissistic). This is always the first line of concern and no matter how cool or pretty she seems, if she can't check these areas there is no point going further into a situation that is going to become an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 04:46 PM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenI agree the internet has changed the world and especially dating. My point is that too many men who are not having success with dating apps don't do anything different when these apps havent worked for them for years. It seems like too many of these men just complain about online dating, but just doing the same thing trying to use these apps and continuing to have no success. I think the internet and the apps have distorted peoples perception of dating and what they can get. I'm over 30 and I re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 04:03 PM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenExactly. The women aiming for the stars are not getting what they want out of it as you say being 'strung along'. Guys shouldn't worry about it. Let women do what they want and like most guys trying to get women out of their league, the women who do the same generally end up disappointed. Its their choice and let them make it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 03:58 PM |
| 1 | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenIt is demographics really 2/3 adults in america are overweight by their late 20s. Its mostly just filtering matches and not wasting time on the ones that are not desirable. If over 20% of matches are decent looking then thats good enough to work with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 03:55 PM |
| 1 | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenI think you underestimate the degree women are so focused on their desires and experiences. I see it so much in women in know over 30 who are not happy that their dating options at that age are way worse than the guys they hooked up with and could get relationships with from her ages of 18- late 20s. I've seen it in my social circles with these women who will sometimes say blatantly that they don't like the men who actually are willing to date them and give them relationships. Its a comparison t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:32 AM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenWeird but very normal unfortunately | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:27 AM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenDont date these women. I'm over 30 and I know too many of these women who are single wanting husbands as their biological clocks tick faster and faster. These women are at a crossroads to accepting that their dating value is not what it used to be and they either have to come to terms with that and how they won't get the man they dreamed of and will have to lower their standards to find a husband, or they will be single forever. Thats one thing of advice men my age tell other men in not getting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:26 AM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenMost women dream of a relationship with a guy out of her league that she will never get and most ordinary dudes dream of sleeping with lots of women they will never get to experience. Most guys are lazy, fat, out of shape, dress like shit, have no ambition, play too much video games, and are content with living an easy mediocre life. This is why they get nowhere. On this sub I have made comments on my old account that men need to approach women to learn social skills and because the quality of w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:23 AM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenI think he is talking about how it is not acceptable for a man to say that a woman is unacceptable comparec to the reverse where it is way more socially acceptable for women to say things like 'men are trash' etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:13 AM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenHis experience is the same with about every guy I have known on these apps who is in good shape. Lean, muscular and fit- most of the matches of myself and guys I know who are in shape are women who are at least 50+ pounds overweight, and some way more than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:11 AM |
| – | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenGuys should stop worrying about it. Chances are these women are not generally happy that the men they want (who are way out of their league) just used them for sex without any intention to actually date them or see if a connection moved forward. Many women get bitter and upset about it and resent all men for it. Let these women think what they want and think they can get a prince. She isn't your problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:09 AM |
| 2 | We overestimate the effort needed from women to date elite men while also undereatimating how difficult for men to date beautiful womenSimple math will tell you that only so many women can date a top 1% guy because these men are so few in number. Some women are okay with casual sex from hot men, but from what I have seen on dating apps with myself and others, most of the women do not just want a casual encounter with the guy and will only see him or be intimate if she has a sense of connection of some sort. Few women want the emotionally disconnectex brand of sex. Even when the guy is clearly way above the woman in attractivene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/24 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Are men accepting far less these days or has it always been like this?I think many men are weak and also the dating pool is getting worse all the time. I was generally shocked how shallow the dating pool was when I was last on the apps. Over 30 and to find a woman about my age who wasn't hideous, wasn't massively overweight, didn't have baby dadies or 2 divorces, didn't have excessive tattoos, and didn't have extensive emotional or psychological issues- was damn near impossible. Look at obesity statistics where almost half of men and women are that overweight. For… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Debate : The Bluepill doesn‘t exist anymore since around 5-10 Years.I don't think even 10% of men defend the blue pill. Most men who have seen anything of the world will tell you that the blue pill is utter bullshit. TRP isn't perfect either, but it is far more valid in understanding the world and making sense of how things work | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Women will sabotage you talking to their friends without hesitation, and regardless of what anyone says it is usually against their willSo many things could have happened that it is hard to tell which it was. Maybe the friends had some plans they already made for the night. Maybe the friend was drunk and wanted to talk to the other friend. Maybe the frient falsely read the situation and thought something was happening that wasn't. I wouldn't jump to conclusions on the matter regarding intent and intentions. It is so hard to make objective conclusions in these situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 04:07 PM |
| 1 | I wish men would stop normalizing women approaching them and trying to "shoot their shot". Almost every man i've seen feels very uncomfortable with a woman approaching themNo person is going to be interested in everyone else. Sometimes it was physical and sometimes it was personality. We all have our reasons for rejecting someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/23 08:38 AM |
| 23 | I wish men would stop normalizing women approaching them and trying to "shoot their shot". Almost every man i've seen feels very uncomfortable with a woman approaching themI loved it when women approached. It takes all the ambiguity of the interaction away and I know that I have someone down for flirting and whatever comes with it. I will say that I have not been interested in most of the women who have approached me. Most of the women who approach men is because the guy is on a higher level than her and she knows that without making the first move he isn't likely to ask her out. I will say that some of the time it worked and we dated. Women approaching is a great… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/23 07:48 AM |
| – | Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young womenI can find women up to standards, I just date them 5-10 years younger than me because I can. Thats the fucking point. Finding a woman over 30 who is 'up to standards' is a nightmare. I hit the gym and have a decent job and postgtraduate degrees. Finding an over 30 single women who isn't a hippo is like finding a diamond in a sandbox at your local park-probably not gonna happen. Single women over 30 usually are not that great. Instead of owning that fact that these group scores low in qualities m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 03:22 AM |
| – | Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young womenOr a nice way to say you don't like what I said, and rather than articulate it like someone with an IQ over 50, you just go into personal attacks. Very impressive of you. Clearly you are a jewel of humanity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 03:07 AM |
| -3 | Older women are way easier to manipulate than younger girlsI happen to kind of agree. A 20 year old knows she has dating options and is not likely to go after someone who isn't decent to her because the opportunity cost is so high. Women over 30 are often feeling their biological clocks ticking with age and seeing so many of their female friends married and having kids by this point. I think the 30+ women are wanting something so bad that they buy into bullshit losers tell them because they want it so bad. Its the analogy of shopping while very hungrey … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Why do fathers react so differently to the idea of their daughters dating?I think it is that men see dating from the perspective of the red pill when it comes to their daughters a lot of the framework is accurate. Men over 30 have seen enough of the women they have known in their lives and can see that the women who got married prior to that age are generally more well adjusted and happier compred to the women who were still single at 32-35 still trying to find a husband when her dating value keeps slipping. This is why I can tell that most blue pill guys don't actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 02:59 AM |
| – | Women hate age gap relationships because they are scared of being tossed aside in favour of young womenSaying men want to manipulate these women is the tired trope that older women keep saying even when it is refuted again and again. If there were 30 year old women who actually weren't 80 pounds overweight with severe emotional baggage and resentment of men, I and many men would date them. Seriously, go on Hinge or Tinder and find a woman 30 or over who is close to being in shape and not hideous, without kids, without tons of tattoos, and has secure attachment. I bet you will find very few of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/23 02:53 AM |
| 1 | this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to beLots of women have emotional intelligence and maturity. The trick is not wasting your energy on those that don't. No need to slam all women like that, and especially when the point isn't close to accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/23 06:55 AM |
| 12 | this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to beI am straight and don't date men, but I would say that many of the problems here are also present when dating really attractive women. I have dated a few and they can be a nightmare to deal with. Several of these women gave me the feeling that they never really had to grow up or become a good person because her looks were very impressive and a guy either was okay with her terrible personality or she could replace him easily. In this sense guys were expendable and no amount of holding her account… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 07:43 AM |
| – | What advice would you give my 37F perpetually single friend? I’m at my wit’s end with herIts just math. The number of women looking for top 1% men is way higher than the number of these men available. I'm over 30 and I've met too many women just like the friend mentioned in the OP. Its a scenerio of 500 people wanting to buy a car going to a dealership with 25 cars available. Best case scenerio is 475 go home without a vehicle assuming everyone gets financed etc. Unless these men are getting cloned or created in high numbers, those pursuing them will end up single or have to lower t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 08:00 AM |
| – | What advice would you give my 37F perpetually single friend? I’m at my wit’s end with herYou need to tell her that her views and attitude are completely repulsive to men, and especially the high earning men she is interested in. Tell her that high earning men have enough problems with their jobs or business and the last thing they want is someone like her who is a difficult nightmare to deal with. Ask her the serious question if it means more to her to find a husband or if it is more important to not change herself and continue to be single. If she says that finding a husband is mor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 07:57 AM |
| – | When does putting your best foot forward become deception?Her argument is very stupid when you consider who many women: -use filters that can drastically change her appearance for the better making a 4 look like a 7 -use old photos that she her far thinner than her appearance in person will not tell you they are sleeping with other people on the side will not tell you how many mental illnesses they have and so on. Everyone puts their best foot forward when meeting someone. It becomes fraud when you lie about things like your education and work history,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/23 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Societies response to anger is gender specific and bizarreThis is modern progressivism in action. If you are labelled a privileged group (men, white people, straight people, rich people) your actions will almost always be viewed with suspicion where there is an attempt by most progressives to hold you at fault for something. If you are an oppressed group (women, black, gay, poor, not white) your actions are always justified or defended because there is some greater societal oppression that is ultimately responsible for the negative behavior in question… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 01:33 PM |
| 1 | How do you approach dating knowing full well you’re going into it with your judgement impaired.Try and be level headed and not let emotions flood your brain with irrationality. An example is not getting so head over heels about someone you just meet by getting so invested too quickly that you overlook major red flags or things like compatibility because you are so intoxicated by the idealized image you create of this person in your head. As yourself rationally if one of your best friends was in your exact circumstances with that person if you would encourage them to date the person in que… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 01:20 PM |
| 2 | Do most people settle or just have lowly standards?'compromise' usually means meeting the equilibrium. People want what they want but will struggle in dating if they want someome better than themselves because those more desirable people will have more desirable options than the person reaching. This usually sorts itself out by people who are fairly equal in terms of dating value getting together for relationships where looks are similar and barring a situation where one of the people has something to augment their desirability like very high ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that being rich helps men in terms of dating and finding relationships etc? If so do you think this is to do with the status that comes along with it or the lifestyle and wealth?I might be in the minority, but I think it will only help a guy get his foot in the door. If he lacks social skills or has no ability to communicate and connect with women, he is only going to get the blatant gold diggers. Its the same thing I have said about very good looking guys only getting a woman interested where he still has to be interesting and know how to flirt at the very least. A lot of what makes successful guys sexy is not the money as much as it is the confidence and ability to fl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Why do guys take it personally when women see them as a safe option, when guys end up marrying those options as well?I think the difference is that women more than men have a sense of entitlement and will become resentful when what they feel they are due is not delivered. Look at how you rarely will hear men say to another man, "you deserve ____", yet women say this all the time about themselves or other women deserving something. A person who feels she deserves something and gets less than that is not going to be happy. Men mostly look at it as hoping to get what they can, but not this feeling of being owed s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/23 05:28 AM |
| 3 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?I would be skeptical. She has been to therapy "for 10 years", in her words. She needs to get her money back if that is true. I think people who change have to be willing to change. Someone has to see that they have an issue and be mentally ready to have a plan to change and have the discipline to do it. Her video comes across as attacking the therapist and playing the victim card. She doesn't admit that a single point the matchmaker made as valid, and has no self-awareness that her behaviors are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I think that might be an easier situation if you someone in your situation was willing to marry someone who also had kids and didn't want anymore. I woul guess it would be easier than a 30-35 woman who does not have kids but wants to find someone with kids. Those single women I know that age are getting asked out by a lot of divorced guys who are late 30s to early 40 who already have kids from the marriages. From what I have gathered, some of those men are open to another kid or 2, some are not.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 07:10 PM |
| 5 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outShe wouldn't. I think its hard for men to be this unrealistic because the world doesn't care about saying about protecting mens feelings from an early age. There are no society wide movements like body positivity for women that are entirely to elevate the self esteem of men by saying something that the opposite sex almost universally does not believe. I have discussed with some women and explained to them that the number of women looking for top 1% guys is drastically higher than the number out … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Not many people are widowed these days and I will give a pass for divorced from cheating. Those 2 options still only account for a very small percentage of single women at that age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?It did not sound like that is something she would be willing to do. Even if she did quit it sure doesn't sound like she will be open to not being the primary decision maker. How attractive would that sound to a man: you get to make all the income all while your wife puts your balls in her purse and makes all the decisions and controls the relationship. No ambitious successful man is going to do that for a woman, certainly not her not attractive 38 year old self with a nightmarish personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:49 AM |
| 2 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?There is a reason she is single at 38. Aside from her insufferable personality, she isn't pretty or aging well, and has an ego that could reach outer space. She doesn't get it because her ego is too big to accept that she isn't as great as she thinks. Look at how she goes off about how terrible the matchmaker was and twisting the words to say she 'didn't deserve love' when she said at the beginning that wasn't the case. She was told the truth by the matchmaker that her personality and expectatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:46 AM |
| 6 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?She cant get a successful man and also want to boss him around. A less successful guy who isn't ambitious might be willing, but not a guy who is on her level. Successful men are that way because they won't follow someone else. If they were like that, they would be far less likely to be successful. She wants both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?She isn't bad for wanting that. Her problem is she wants both ways of getting the guy on her level, but also having ultimate control of the relationship. If she said she wanted control but was also willing to date someone who made far less than her, I would say that is reasonable. Her problem is that she wants it both ways when that just wont happen. Ambitious successful men are not taking a backseat to a partner because they are not passive and laid back. Her ego is too big to accept these so s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:41 AM |
| 7 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?If that lady in the video was honest about what the matchmaker said, I would have a lot of respect for the matchmaker for telling her the truth that she has too many issues for the matchmaker service to help her. The matchmaker told her the truth that her attributes are completely incompatible with the man she is looking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:39 AM |
| 4 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?I felt the same way. She is insufferable and has no self awareness of it. The amount of emotional baggage that is apparent in just that short video is also very high. She said she has been in therapy for 10 years also. She needs to get her money back because its not helping her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:37 AM |
| 10 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?She doesn't have the emotional intelligence to want those things. She did not mention once in the video wanting someone who had a good personality or who was loving. She talked about CONTROL and ON HER LEVEL. Her ego is the size of the solar system and that is why she wants the man she does. The man she wants is a horrible fit because he isn't going to take a back seat to her becaus he is ambitious. She doesn't see that because her massive ego blinds her to anything other than her basic level fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:36 AM |
| 6 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?Yes but her ego won't accept that. Her ego is so inflated that she will not have someone who makes less than her because she views it as accepting that she isn't as good as the dream man she is looking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Two leaders in a relationship. Thoughts?It doesn't work having 2 people who both want to drive a car. I mean 2 people who want to take the lead as opposed to having an equal partnership. These women want their cake and to eat it too where they want a guy who makes more than them who they would respect and be attracted too, but also is not going to want to lead. Those high achieving men are not going to take a back seat to a woman because they are not the passive type- they have ambition and are not going to give that up. If these wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:33 AM |
| 4 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outYou could say that. i think all those phrases are coping and not wanting to admit to (most themselves) others that they aren't as hot shit ans they think. If a woman remains single she can say thinks like 'theres no good men'. This phrase takes her unwanted singledom and puts reason as an external issue as there just aren't good men so there isn't much she can do about it, and she isn't going to take less than she deserves. If the woman were to accept the truth that she is shopping out of her pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 04:22 AM |
| 5 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outI found that out. I wasn't being mean. The few women I have done that with I was close too and wanted to give some real advice because they each at times expressed how dating wasn't working and they were not happy about it. It wasn't an effort to be mean or upset them. I think most people would be happier in fulfilling relationships and should strive for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?If someone had a great personality without issues I mentioned, she would find someone unless she is really aiming for someone way more physically attractive than her. That means the best ones get removed from the pool and the rest recycled. Its like looking for geniuses in a remedial class. If any of them were geniuses they wouldn't be in a remedial class in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Possible. I see similar behaviors in women I don't date who I know from various circles. I think there is something to be said about the psychology of aging and processes most people at a certain age have been through. That would happen on or off an apps. I would agree that women off apps are generaly better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Its been a long while since that happened. One of them got diagnosed after we split up. Hindsite is 20/20 for a reason | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/23 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Look at men who have options and see who they date. Wealthy and famous men very often date women far younger than they- because they can. The 'average' guy has no options to do this. Many men who can date younger women do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 11:33 PM |
| 6 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outI've actually explained that exact concept you are talking about to several women over 30 when I asked them what they are looking for and they list criteria that would eliminate over 98% of men. I explained that wanting someone elite in several categories will eliminate most available men. Maybe the even bigger issue is that the remaining men who are that desirable to meet these stringent criteria will be in high demand by so many women that getting him to commit to you will be a challenge becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?22 year olds have their own problems. I would never claim otherwise. My point was if men can date women over 30 or under 30, the under 30 will generally have less issues overall. Its just a suggestion for what is more likely to lead to a successful relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Is it true that male "players" were shamed prior to the sexual revolution?These guys were shamed. Listen to 'papa was a rolling stone' by the Temptations. It is about a guy who is a player who has kids with multiple women and is a terrible father. The song has a bluesy feel to it and the tone is not cheerful. This song wasn't modern hip hop rapper bragging about all his baby mamas and the hoes he is pulling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 11:02 PM |
| 5 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outI agree. Finding women on dating apps over 30 who are remotely in shape is a challenge, and I am talking as a guy who has lived in cities with well over a million people so it isn't because of a small sample size. I often did what guys did and would swipe everything right and then filter the matches to save time. So often I would match with women who were obese and beyond who would be messaging me first. Like sorry, I work out and take care of myself. Not interested in someone who puts in no eff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I am skeptical. Studies have shown men on average at any age will never view a woman as more attractive older than 23. This is 18-80 year old men who never see women as the most attractive after age 23. I am guessing they don't tell you the truth in order to appear less shallow. When I was dating someone around 10 years younger than me (I was over 30), the reactions I got from women in my social circle were less than approving. There was definitely some side eyes when I brought her up in convers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 10:56 PM |
| 2 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Or they thought they could find the same guy years later when they were 'ready' to marry. I think it is hard for women in their early to mid 20s who have so many matches on dating apps and rarelly get turned down for relationships or sex, to possibly comprehend that these options are not likely to last forever and most of the most marriage oriented men will be out of the dating market by 30 either married or in a long term relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?You said 30 isn't old and I was explaining why it is old enough to cause issues related to timing and fertility. I was responding directly to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?If a guy wants kids, 30 for the woman is already putting things under a time crunch. If I as a guy want to date a woman for 3 years before getting engaged she is 33. If it takes a year to get married she is 34. If I want even 2 kids in 3 years, we have to get pregnant nearly instantly meaning she has the first at 35 that is called a geriatric pregnancy for a reason due to increased medical risks. Wait a year and have another and she is having a kid around 37- an age that is very common for ferti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I walk around wearing a dunce hat so people know to avoid me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:40 PM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I bave a list of different problems and said that they all have different issues. I acknowledged that they are not the same. They have issues that I listed, though they are different ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?You are right that the 25 year old is. The difference is that she is doing it in a way that isn't ruining the vibe and overshadowing the whole date. It doesn't feel like this heavy cloud suffocating the room. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:38 PM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I agree. I am so insane that I should be put in a mental home and given electroshock therapy daily. Last time I got institutionalized I escaped and men in white suits came after me with a van and took me back in for awhile. I needed to hide better after escaping was the lesson learned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Ask men how they feel about it who actually date them. You might be surprised the responses you get and that so many don't think it is the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Unless the woman doesn't want any kids of her own and is okay being stepmom, that scenerio wouldn't be feasible. There are lots of men in their late 30s early 40s without kids would would be a good match for a 30+ woman who wants kids. She should date someone who fits what she is looking for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:33 PM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?People are stubborn and do fight reality because they refuse to accept the way things are. Women almost all the time would have far better dating options if they started looking seriously prior to 30. Some famous author I cant remember the name of was criticised around 10 years ago for suggesting that women in college 18-23 should be attempting to find their husbands while in college. She didn't say they should marry them at that age, but was saying they should find their long term partners and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:30 PM |
| 6 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outUnfortunately your scenerio is probably right. I had a friend I knew years ago on dating apps. Good looking guy, in shape, charismatic, well educated, great job, made 300k a year, mongamist, well respected, and 5'8 height. On dating apps the guy matched with either women not that pretty who were no where near him success wise, or women who were pretty heavy. I was absolutely stunned. Like what the hell are women wanting? They think they will get another guy who is well in top 1% earnings good lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:24 PM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Lol. Not gray or old. Can run a 6.5 minute mile and my weight is fine. Again just fine over here and thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Not wanting kids does make that easier. If either the guy or woman wants kids, dating in your 30s just adds another challenge where it isn't just your preference, but also dealing with biology and the partners ability to have kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 07:14 PM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Being spit on would be less painful that the "splitting" of when you become the worst enemy of the person! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 06:15 AM |
| 5 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outIts just a way of simplifying things from an explanatory perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 06:14 AM |
| 33 | Women genuinely, "settling" never really works outIf you think most women are looking to date a male equivalent, I have some shocking news for you. The women my age in my social circles who are over 30 are mostly single because they are all basically looking for top 5% men. Doesn't matter how pretty, overweight, unstable, personality issues she may have, the ones I know all think they deserve an elite guy. The whole term 'settling' itself is used wrongly by women. Women say 'settle' like it is some evil word where she is taking less than she ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 06:13 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I have dated 2 of them with BPD in the past.. Its a fucking nightmare. The splitting is out of this world. You are either the greatest person on earth to them or the cause of all their issues. It is the cycle where at the point you feel like leaving the person comes back to being the best version of themselves you have ever seen and you think the bad stuff is gone. You go through that cycle a few times until you realize it will never be any different. High advising against it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 05:56 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I got a postgraduate degree then another and was more concerned with that than finding a wife. I had relationships at various points. Forget the analogy. Almost every 30+ I've been on a date with in my life has one of a few things: has severe emotional baggage from past relationships lacks secure attachment being either avoidant or insecure attachment blatantly resents men with clear mysandrist talk thinks she is a godess and deserves the best of everything -copes hard for why she is single "the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 05:54 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Its worth considering. I really don't think too highly of American women and every year I get older they seem to get worse. Travelled oversees a few times and was very impressed with what I saw in several European countries and elsewhere. Never been to Philippines, but know a couple guys who married women from there who seemed very happy with their lives and family they created. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 05:10 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Asking me questions about my career, income, education, and when I want kids has nothing to do with my personality. It is literally going through an Excel spreadsheet with questions to see if the person ticks boxes. Finding out personality is about just having a natural conversation and seeing where that goes. Won't find that asking someone if they have student debt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 04:57 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?The average American woman is a size 16.. I don't know how that is possible but apparently it is. I hit the gym several times a week. Finding a woman over 27 who isn't 50 pounds overweight is not that common. Just that bare bones level expectations are so hard to meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 04:55 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I've made excuses to end dates quickly when that starts happening. If she is already that concerned with these things, I would be highly concerned that she wants a ring on it less than a year. I agree. First date is just seeing if we mesh and even want to see each other again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 04:51 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I envy your situation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 04:49 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I sure did!!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 04:49 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I've been there breaking up with a few exes because they wanted to move things along too quick and I wasn't putting my future at risk by doing so. It doesn't go well. Its not much different from casually dating a woman telling her you do not want a relationship and just want to keep things chill. Often they do want that after a short time and are not happy when you tell them you were serious about what you told them previously about not wanting a relationship. For women at that age, it feels lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 04:48 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?If I went to a restaurant and almost every time the food was mediocre and crap service, and it was overpriced, would I be wrong for not wanting to go back based on each experience being subpar? Dates with women over 30 are like that restaurant, done it and it is almost always subpar. There is a reason they are 30 and single. Men are not complicated creatures. Be minimally pleasant, don't be completely nuts, don't be toxic, more sexually exciting than a nun, and be a decent person. If no guy thou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 04:44 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Thats almost a bait and switch. Let you think all is good and moving normally to then putting you on alert that the timeframe you were reasonably led to believe is completely different than the actual frame in her head and you need to adjust. Never had anyone pull that one me, but I would not be happy if a woman did. I would bail because thats not going to work and I am not being manipulated into something like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:38 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I've had job questions a few times, but that ends because what I'm in is pretty straight forward with making sense of. I tell all men to get off dating apps. Women off them are way better and connecting to an actual person is way easier when aspects of someone are not reduced to a few pictures and sentences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:34 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Okay??? The OP was talking about age and I gave answers to it. Is there something else you would rather discuss? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:32 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?But on a first date is a little much. I don't even know if we like each other or have any chemistry and she is asking about how I feel about kids and marriage in the next 3 years. I am not exagerating because I have got that exact question on dates with these women several times before. The weight of her expectations and clock ticking just crushes any emotional space to connect with the person because it makes it all feel too heavy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:31 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?It makes sense what you were experiencing with your 40s and clarity. I feel like women my age of 30 are in way more of a hurry to have kids and get married because her fertility clock is very different than mine. She has to find someone ideally within 5 years to have kids before her fertility gets into dicey territory all while she is competing with younger women at that same age. Dating 25-27 year olds doesn't put this same time crunch on relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:28 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I feel that rushing the relationship is just not worth it because is playing into her hand and not what is ours. I think when a woman over 30 on a first date is asking so many questions trying to see if I fit boxes, it comes across like she is more concerned with finding someone who on paper is good enough, than actually wanting me or any specific guy. It feels like she is ready to marry the first guy willing to have her who fits the boxes, as opposed to contecting with the actual person. Its to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?You nailed it about how men have to do something and be of desire for those options to happen. A 10 year age gap for men in their 30s isn't really that much if the guy stays in shape and takes care of himself. Guys can keep their testosterone levels almost the same as in their 20s by eating well and lifting weights. Your skin won't be as good, but confidence, style, income, will all improve greatly. I agree that the RP ideas of 20+ year gaps of 40 year olds dating 20 year olds is mostly unrealis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:19 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Thats the problem and I have seen it also. I have felt that there are few women over 27, certainly over 30, that I don't even feel it is worth the effort to date in the pool. As we get older the dating pool just keep recycling the rejects meaning that it gets worse all the time. Those that value monogamy and can handle it get taken out of the pool while those that don't value it or can't handle it, or arent that desirable, will just stay in the pool or keep getting thrown back in. Dating younger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:15 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I'm over 30 and most single women in my social circles I would say are not marriage material. Most of them are entitled, have a godess complex, have no self-awareness, expect someone way better than her male equivalent, have emotional baggage, resent men, and are difficult to make happy. If I had to compare that group to the women over 30 I know who are married I would say that group by comparison is far more desirable. Way prettier and fit on average, better personality, less emotional issues, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:13 AM |
| – | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I would agree with you, though its not politically correct to say so publically and people will judge you for saying it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/23 02:08 AM |
| 4 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?You said it well in, 'not in a rush to rush through a relationship". I agree that maybe that 30 year old is great, but hearing how she wants to get married sooner than later and kids is a lot to hear on a first or second date. Like we have no emotional connection yet and the weight of all her expectations is already on top of everything. Its too much too quick and just a situation I cannot go forward with. I need to know I like and connect the person before those thoughts can be in my head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I wonder if all the men smoked or were really overweight and unhealthy. Even smokers on average make it to 66 year old. Thats pretty bad if they all croaked that young. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:48 PM |
| 2 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Year a gap over 20 years is only typically happening with successful men who have money. Doctors and businessmen can pull it off because the women know being with that dude gets them a lifestyle very different that most men her own age. A 50 year old guy who makes 80k is almost never getting a 25 year old. I have dated women around 10 years younger in my early 30s and its a mixed bag. They may be hot but it is dealing with problems that I was more than happy to be done with long ago. Having date… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:47 PM |
| 3 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?That is well put about how the rejection fantasy is dumb. I and most guys weren't rejected because we had dates and relationships in our 20s. Most men who achieved things also had other priorities than relationships meaning the relationships we did have would take second in priority to what we wanted to accomplish. Its simply we enjoy the better options because they are better. If 2 cars are priced the same, I will take the better one. I can get dates and relationships from 25 year olds, so why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:44 PM |
| 3 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I would say that most of the 31-34 year olds I know are dating those late 30s men because these are the men who will date and give them relationships. If you know lots of men dying in their 60s I would question what health choices they are making | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:27 PM |
| 7 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?As a dude over 30 I probably would have agreed with you until I got to 30 and noticed how different dating these women was compared to even 5 years younger. Biological clock is a thing and most women do want to have kids and the unmarried ones generally are feeling it by 30, almost certainly by 32-34. Its also most women seeing many of her friends married and kids by that age, her having been to so many of those weddings. I was shocked how different it felt dating 30 year olds compared to 25 yea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:25 PM |
| -10 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Maybe but she isn't then and I would rather enjoy dating a relationship far more for that time than going after someone 30. Also the logic doesn't hold becaues a woman who is 25 and gets married before 30 will be far different than a woman over 30 who isn't married because the younger woman is far less likely to be coping so hard at that age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:23 PM |
| 4 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?The age gap absolutely increases as people get older. What are you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:21 PM |
| 3 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I did not say 30 year olds were 'old maids'. I will say that hte difference is absolutely palpable and its big enough that I many men like myself don't date 30+ women because it is so much less enjoyable. Its not our fault we feel this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?As men age the age gap in relationships typically grows. Most 40 year old men are dating early 30s women. Most 30 year old men are dating 25 year old women. Most guys will not go for more than 20 year gap because that creates issues and she likely won't be interested in you unless you have some things going for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I have more muscle at 30 than I did at 20, but yes I am not as good looking. I will say that dating 22 year old women as a 30 year old guy is easier than when I was 22. I am not rich, but I know how to dress and hold a conversation better than 22 year olds. I have ambition and know things that younger guys don't. You would be amazing how some women in their early 20s appreciate these things in guys a little older than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 10:59 PM |
| 8 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?Typical response that does not actually address the issues of dating a woman who is over 30 compared to dating a woman 25 or under. Women over 30 on average have way more emotional baggage, are way more demanding, weigh more, are less pretty, want relationships to move too fast, and are coping very hard. Men like myself who can date a woman over 30 or a woman 5+ years younger often pick the younger ones because it is just easier and more enjoyable. I love the attack on men dating younger women. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 10:57 PM |
| 19 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?It really isn't. I'm over 30 and I will not date 30 year olds because dating them is so drastically different than dating 25 year olds. Getting a date with a 25 year old is very easy and thus I do it. I don't hate 30 year olds or have a 'revenge fantasy', I just don't enjoy dating them where every date feels like an interigation where she is more concerned with seeing how many boxes I check than seeing if we even vibe or connect. Would you deny that dating a woman 30 would be very different than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 10:53 PM |
| 15 | Real talk, why is RP so obsessed with women’s age?I think that age defines a lot of dating for men where dating a woman who is 21 is very different from dating a woman who is 25, or who is 30. This became apparent to me after I turned 30 where the dating aspects with 30+ women was light years different than someone even 5 years younger than that. Not all women are the same, but most women at 30 have very different mentalities and attitudes as women who are 25. Women at 25 feel like time is on their side and most 30 year olds are feeling their b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 10:50 PM |
| 4 | The red pill men on youtube have 30 and 40 YEAR OLD WOMEN terrified of aging. Can we please normalize older women being just as beautiful as the 20 something year oldsI don't think it has anything to do with youtube. They have studies showing that at no age will men every view women as the most attractive age older than 23, at any point in the mens life from 18 to 80. You cannot reform biology. You cannot make women like the short ugly guy anymore than you can make men think the average 30 year old is prettier than the average 25 year old. Saying it or not saying the truth about what men or women find attractive isn't going to change these preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 11:23 AM |
| – | “Women are hornier than men”Wrong. The evidence based on testosterone levels, attitudes towards casual sex, regret over casual sex, and every other piece of actual evidence shows men on average have way higher sex drive. The women with the most sex drive will have higher than some men but the 'average' male probably has a sex drive higher than at least 3/4 women. Those claiming otherwise need to look at documented evidence and not some subjective perceptions of random women on tiktok | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 09:44 AM |
| 2 | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?I think your situation is a little different from most people. Being a virgin until 32 is kind of unique demographically in the US. Im in my 30s and most of the single women in my social circles are similar at least in the sense of not being able to find a person that meets what they want, or a certain standard. You could say that if it taking over 5 years to find a certain person, the standards are either too high or the strategy needs adjustment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?One book doesn't invalidate the trend that is still overwhelmingly present | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?That is the insideous part of the sexual revolution and hookup culture that people just act like isn't there. We cannot have a society where people constantly have casual sex with near strangers and little committement and think there won't be issues. Condom use at best is not great showing that around half of sexual encounters are not using them, and thats going to lead to numerous unplanned pregnancies. Being honest, almost nobody I have ever met has been perfect using condoms, even when doing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?I agree that hte patriarchy theory is a myth and perpetuated by people that are very biased or don't think very hard about the arguments they make. Probably right about womens collective will. That or maybe society just cares about what women have to say more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 02:26 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The widely accepted misandrist rhetoric when it comes to dating needs to stopIn my example I think the 'trauma response' is over the top. Take responsibility that she had sex with a huge number of guys, most she didn't know on a level deeper than some conversations on a dating app, where doing this is inevitably going to lead to some bad situations when you put yourself in these situations so often. If I choose to walk around in a gang ridden area after dark 3 days a week every week wearing expensive jewelry, I can expect that I will get robbed at least once or twice. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/23 02:24 AM |
| – | CMV: The widely accepted misandrist rhetoric when it comes to dating needs to stopThe whole argument misses the point that the vast majority of men are not rapists. The argument of assuming that less than 5% of the worst men define all men is a way for mysandrists and feminists to attack all men by phrasing men generally as only defined by the worst of us when in fact the average man is nowhere near the rapist abusive stereotype. I had an argument with a female I knew a few months ago trying to make that claim that all or most men are rapists or abusive. This same woman who c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 11:21 AM |
| – | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?I don't see how things could swing that far just by the fact that we are a free society and have a Constitution that gives everyone at least a set of individual liberties. I don't know if it will change. The number of women childless and never married is going way up, and it seems those in their 20s will have even high rates of this in the next 10-20 years. I have seen research that suggests around 80% of those childless never married 40+ women did not want to end up that way. I see it going tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 11:13 AM |
| – | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?Maybe not for society, but most people do not date those whose values go completely against their own. This is seperate from what people advocate for socially and politically that do have greater implications for those around us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 05:06 AM |
| – | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?Many women would not look at the results of the sexual revolution and hookup culture as a good thing on society. The prevalence of broken families and single parent families has skyrocketed over the last 60 years. STDs are at all time highs and mental illnesses are at highest recorded levels ever by young people. Not all of this is the sexual revolution and modern hookup culture, but lets not act like a lot of it isn't due to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 04:42 AM |
| – | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?Feminism doesn't call out women because thier enemy is men and they see the world as the priveleged men against the oppressed women. They see the world very simply in those lens and to call out other women for supporting those things cuts into the core of the logical consistency of feminism and womanism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 04:40 AM |
| -1 | Why do women never blame Married women for their persistent support of the GOP and the Pro Life Movement like they do sexless/dateless men?Nobody is doing that, or if a few people are they are the most outer fringes of batshit crazy. Thats conspiracy theory lunacy on par with those arguing the earth is flat or hollow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menMedicine is less objective as well. Cases become very complicated and the right course of action and timing are often debatable to some extent. For the police it is less so because the question of 'do I have reasonable fear that my life in danger to use x level force'. That question has many layers, but details can get boiled down to several factors and several specific people.. Medicine gets so damn complicated so quickly with everyone involved from EMT, nurses, doctors, etc. Also many issues w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 03:03 AM |
| 5 | Do you think there are more men willing to be house husbands or more women will to have house husbands?Depends on the guy and woman. I am skeptical that most women will respect a man who stays home and earns no income, regardless of how clearn and well kept the home and children are. There are some women who would be down with the arrangement, but I doubt even 30% of women would. I work with high achieving women and I really don't see these women being attracted to men who are not 'on their level' in terms of education and success. For her to find a house husband, she would have to take a man who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 12:46 AM |
| – | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menI believe you because I have seen some of it myself in hospitals... Flooding critical patients they don't think will make it with fluids so they die before going to the operating table because if they die on the operating it becomes a state investigation. The lines people don't think get crossed often do and people would be shocked. I'll leave it at that. Doctors can get in sticky situations with their personal lives ans sexual lives intersecting with work, but most sensible doctors don't screw … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/23 12:09 AM |
| 2 | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menMaybe. Can't say I ever watched it. Don't care for the medical dramas. They are so convoluted and unrealistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 06:07 AM |
| – | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menThat would put his work in jeapordy. She says he assaulted her or manipulated her into sex by saying he would retaliate against her professionally if she doesn't- both of those are not going to end well for him. Doctors don't do this with direct subordinates very often for these reasons | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 06:06 AM |
| – | Women with high standards should date unattractive menThat is like saying someone should stick their head in a trashcan so almost nothing will smell bad by comparison. Your post is ridiculous and probably not even serious. To date someone for 2 months that the other person is repulsed by would be an effort in massochism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 06:04 AM |
| – | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menIt doesn't sound like the show is painting men much better. I read a basic plot summary on wiki and one of the male main characters (her bf for awhile) was cheating on his wife that he never told Gray about. Lots of other things that seem to paint most of the characters as degenerates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 05:36 AM |
| 6 | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menLook long enough and you can find an example for anything. Generally speaking, the situation is not the most likely to happen. The guy is putting his career at risk because he is dating a subordinate who is kind of unstable. He could date a nurse or anyone else not directly under his authority and it would not be anywhere near the same level issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 04:18 AM |
| – | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menAbsolutely. She would have been kicked out of her residency program many times over. Among the numerous issues with a show that in pure fantasy land | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 04:15 AM |
| – | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menPeople want to watch things that are exciting and get them out of their normal monotonous lives. Most people work an ordinary job that isn't paying a ton and have ordinary experiences where they live. The thrill of these shows is that people in the target audience (this case women) can imagine themselves in the place of the main character that has personality issues and isn't stunningly pretty, and imagine this fantasy of having an amazing life and meeting an amazing man is true. This isn't just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 04:01 AM |
| – | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menThese really do not that often. Derek is both very handsome the top of the hierarchy and dating a woman as physically ordinary as Grey would be well below his options and put him at risk for workplace related issues. In real life Derek would not be dating her. Maybe a much hotter friend of hers, but very unlikely her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 03:56 AM |
| – | Grey’s Anatomy perfectly captures how women perceive and evaluate menShows and movies use themes that appeal to people, specifically the target audience. Grays Anatomy heavily targets women and many of the storylines you describe kind of go along with that. Look at Dirty Dancing, 50 Shades series, Sex and the City- they all appeal to women and tell the fantasy that women love about a woman who isn't extraordinary getting a man who is by comparison far better than her. 50 shades is a college student who through chance connects with a billionaire and he wants her a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many men obsessed with being the top guy when they know most men will never be the top guy?Seeing the recent poll for this sub showing most posters are virgins, it seems like many people here dream of the day that they will be on top and all the struggles will be behind them. It is the same with console video games where someone is an extraordinary character who does extraordinary things in terms of achievement and impact. Compare this to modern life where few people will ever go down in history or have a wikipedia page full of information. Dreaming of greatness is a human escape from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | What is your take on the PPD survey/demographic results?The survey showing that so many are virgins is both shocking and a problem. It suggests that so many (or even a majority) of the responders have no clue about dating or these issues and are just saying what they hear from others or want to believe. The fact that most of the people are at least 25 and virgins is very surprising. I thought the sub was filled with people who have some clue ot dating and talk about their experiences. A 25 year old virgin probably has very little of this. I was not e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Let's say there was a reliable test to see if your male partner had ever cheated or would ever cheat on you. Would you use it, and would you judge other women negatively for using it? Also included in the test is if they've ever abused a woman in the past, or will abuse you in the future.I told my partner that if she put my image on one of those women only facebook groups 'are we dating the same guy', I would be furious. I have never cheated and the idea of a partner putting my face up to the world where women I may have never met can just slander me without any way of defending myself or verification, would be completely unacceptable. At least a paternity test can be completely prive where nobody knows the results. Some of these cheating groups like I mentioned are completely p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 11:43 PM |
| 0 | 'Provider, Protecter, Leader' is outdated.Most of the male doctors I know are married to women at least 15 years younger than them, many of them 20 years younger. For every male doctor with a partner within 5 years of him I know at least as many with a 15+ age gap. Many of their partners do not have a postbachelor degree, and some don't even have degrees. Look at how many male celebrities who married women who did normal jobs. That happens far more that you think. Women can do whatever they want for whatever reason they want. If they wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 05:02 AM |
| 1 | 'Provider, Protecter, Leader' is outdated.I don't agree that this has something to do with 'acting demure'. I have no problem being challenged. I don't like women who have a difficult attitude and ones who feel like they are 'above' everyone else. its an attitude of snotty entitlement. I agree that some women on this level are very pleasant, but I also think the percentage of women who are high earning with unpleasant personalities is way higher than the percentage of women with just bachelors degrees who have diffiicult personalities. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 02:06 AM |
| 0 | 'Provider, Protecter, Leader' is outdated.Depends how you look at it. I do well and am very educated and I would not date someone on my level just because so many of these women are so egotistical and entitled. Many have this attitude that they have achieved alot and are godesses and deserve only the best. I would rather date someone not as wealthy who is leff difficult to deal with and less demanding and easily upset about things. It depends how much a woman makes. If a woman is a doctor and wants a on her level, she is going to have t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 01:43 AM |
| -1 | 'Provider, Protecter, Leader' is outdated.I don't think men get threatened if it is they are even. 16% of women make more than husbands. Maybe that was the 80% I was thinking- marriages where man makes more or equal. Respect for me meant that the woman thinks highly of him and thinks of him as valuable and desirable. It depends on the woman. I know many high earning women over 30 that are not enjoying dating and struggling because they want me who make what they do while the men they want are going after younger women most of the time. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 01:38 AM |
| – | 'Provider, Protecter, Leader' is outdated.I would like to see statistics on it. I have a while ago, and I think it was lower than 45%, but I could be wrong. I heard what you said, I just don't necessarily agree with the reason. I think that men also cheat on higher earning women because these women don't respect the men and the men get a 'screw it' attitude. I've had exes who made more than me while I was in school and I could sense at times how they felt about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 12:13 AM |
| 0 | Who does it benefit to say “people on medication are a red flag”?Your post if very defensive. I think it is more of a conversation of things to look at when dating. If I met someone who told me she was on clozapine, used for treatment resistent schizophrenia, I would probably not be interested in dating her because she likely has a high degree of mental health issues. I dated someone with borderline personality disorder and I would not wish that on my worst enemy. If my friend came to me and said he met a woman he wants to date who told him she suffers from t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 12:06 AM |
| -2 | 'Provider, Protecter, Leader' is outdated.People can say whatever they want, but I care what they do. What you will see with women of all economic brackets is the desire to have a partner who earns more, this is true if you are dating a woman who makes minimum wage or if you are dating a woman making 500k a year as a partner at a law firm. The lower income women benefit more greatly from a higher earning man because it will greatly raise her standard of living compared to a higher earning woman who will live well regardless of who she c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 12:01 AM |
| 11 | What really changedI agree that our society is having a crisis in terms of marriage and declining birth rates. Japan, South Korea, and China are in deep trouble in the sense that their declining birth rates will cause massive social and economic changes these next few decades with an aging population and fewer workers for each retiree ration. In the US, we are having massive uptakes of never married childless women. I would project that a very high percent of women aged 20-30 now will end up joining that group. I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 11:41 PM |
| 9 | Nice guys/gals don’t finish last people with unhealthy dating patterns do.I agree with most of that. A woman who is willing to go for a guy who is a hot mess is not the kind of woman that would make a good partner. I had a buddy whose life was continuously a train wreck with multiple baby mamas, criminal history, owed tons of reputation, mediocre job, previous drug addict, terrible job- yet this dude always had shockingly good women who were educated with great jobs chasing him around. The guy wasn't bad looking, but he pulled women that his life circumstances had no … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 10:13 PM |
| 5 | What really changedI think what you might be seeing is the 'loudest voices' thing happening where the most extreme loudest people get heard even when they are not the majority. I think the most extreme 'modern women' are not the majority of women out there from 18-35. I think become more prevalent on dating apps by percentage as age goes up just by the effect that those more fit for long term relationships will end up in one and those not fit for them keep getting recycled back to the dating pool. Some of these wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Are assumptions around women based on lack of exposure?I think that many comments in this subreddit are from people who see things too rigidly as if every woman or every man is one way not realizing that things are very nuaned with variety. I think the red pill is failry accurate describing things in general terms, but doesn't tell the story of every individual person and can differ for individuals. I think too many people take the red pill to be literal truth with every single woman and are blinded to realize that its not always so clear what is th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 09:54 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Get off the black pill and live in reality. Datin can be hard for men and women for different reasons. Not saying it is easy for men, or even most men. I think the disagreement is too many men keep doing the same things that lead to failure and then saying that dating is impossible. Get off the apps. The apps work for certain types of men and are not good to others. Meeting women in person will be able to show much more of yourself that just image, height, and job that are the only things a dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 09:25 PM |
| – | Most women don't even like men like that. Stop wasting your time.Get off the black pill and live in reality. Datin can be hard for men and women for different reasons. Not saying it is easy for men, or even most men. I think the disagreement is too many men keep doing the same things that lead to failure and then saying that dating is impossible. Get off the apps. The apps work for certain types of men and are not good to others. Meeting women in person will be able to show much more of yourself that just image, height, and job that are the only things a dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Why divorce rates initiate by woman are so high, even on lesbian marriages?You see statistics where around 3/4 women marry a man who makes more than her. That automatically puts her in the driver seat unless he has a solid prenum, and even then that will only protect him so much. The men they are married too have way more lose in terms of financially and custody wise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/23 10:24 AM |
| 0 | A lot of men are justifiably annoyed by a culture that blames them for the male gaze yet pumps "wet ass pussy" into the airwavesI don't think men who brag about sexual contexts are cool, I think it is the sign of men who need validation and ego gratification. My point is that feminism cant have it both ways where it is empowering for women to sexualize themselves but apalling when men sexualize women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 02:16 AM |
| 2 | The Wall ain't real at all, and I say That as a woman who wishes It were the caseAlmost every single guy I know 30-35 is dating women 22-29. I don't know a single one who seriously dates women over 30 or considers a woman that age as someone he would have a committed relationship or marry. Every woman is different and if a woman is in good shape and takes care of herself, she will have way better options at 30 than most women, but that is very few women who do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:53 AM |
| 1 | The Wall ain't real at all, and I say That as a woman who wishes It were the caseDifference in marrying at 19 compared with getting married at 35. Wait until you are maybe 23+ but before 30. That would solve both issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:51 AM |
| 0 | The Wall ain't real at all, and I say That as a woman who wishes It were the casewomen I know over 30 have said it has happened to them less than 10 times in their lives when I asked several last year if this is a common thing they have gone through. It sounds more like an excuse for women to be the victims and find another excuse to blame men rather than own their misandrist views | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:42 AM |
| 1 | A lot of men are justifiably annoyed by a culture that blames them for the male gaze yet pumps "wet ass pussy" into the airwavesWomen should be able to sing about how getting choked and creampied by a stranger is empowering but a guy looking at a woman's tits sticking out is oppressive. This is a culture that has lost its mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:40 AM |
| -1 | A lot of men are justifiably annoyed by a culture that blames them for the male gaze yet pumps "wet ass pussy" into the airwavesIts a deep convoluted issue. Because feminists want to spread the message to our culture that women are both strong and empowered in every sense, but also can play the helpless victim card being crushed by the patriarchy, and of course men have to be their violent oppressors in every context. The contradiction is that feminism wants to have it all at once: the freedom and empowerment to do everything, but never actually have women in a position to take responsibility for anything that goes wrong… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:39 AM |
| 5 | The Wall ain't real at all, and I say That as a woman who wishes It were the caseI think the difference is that women back then didn't have this resentment of men so prevalent in modern women. There wasn't this looking down at the role of being a wife or mother like so many under 35 women do in modern times. Maybe our grandmothers got around, but there wasn't this anger towards men and feeling like being a wife or mother is beyond them because those are such oppressive things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 07:18 AM |
| 9 | The Wall ain't real at all, and I say That as a woman who wishes It were the caseThe key word in your post that is telling is "MID TWENTIES". As a guy in my 30s, I will tell you that most women in their 20s are very naive about how age and time will change them. As a 22 year old about how she will be physically in 10 years and I would bet that almost all of them are overly optimistic about their future compared to what will actually happen. I knew many women in their mid 20s (when I was that age) who were on top of the world with dating having essentially endless amazing opt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 07:15 AM |
| 2 | Suppose you're a libertarian / conservative / right-of-center dude in a coastal city. How are you supposed to date women?I've had this issue. Most cities are more left leaning regardless of what state you are in. Even the most red states will be solid blue in the most central areas of its big cities. My approach is to just be straight up with your beliefs. If you get a woman who is a super woke intersectionalist socialist, it is going to be a nightmare to deal with her generally. If that is a 'deal breaker' for a woman then I consider it a victory that I avoided the hassel in the first place. Women politically lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 06:54 AM |
| – | Having 0 suitors and 100 suitors is the same thing if you don’t like any of themTaking the analogy too far. All I meant was having lots of options usually means at least 1 is good enough if people don't instantly reject them for superficial reasons. In real life that means thinking someone had a bad photo and not considering anything else. If someone thinks 100/100 options are horrible, it probably shows the person is unreasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 04:40 AM |
| 1 | Having 0 suitors and 100 suitors is the same thing if you don’t like any of themI meant more that the woman would find some option that is satisfactory from her perspective. I was not looking at the perspective of men in my analogy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Women are against the legalisation of prostitution because they want the "hoeflation" to continue, and are ok with men being miserable.I don't think it is that simple. Many women don't like prostitution for the same reason many men don't like prostitution, it isn't goof for communities. Go to areas of high prostitution and you see women almost naked parading on streetcorners in full view of children and all to see. Look at the law passed in California that made it harder for police to question or arrest prostitutes. What happened is that it is now free reign for this to be even more open and visible because the fear of repercus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 03:40 AM |
| 1 | For those who believe it’s impossible to find women who aren’t promiscuous - do you believe promiscuity is natural in women then?I think that it is not inherent because women over 70 on average did not have levels of sexual partners that most women do today. Tinder and smartphones and a changing of social norms has changed things. To meet a woman on a dating app who has had less than 20 is very difficult. In person, it is easier to find women with lower counts because women who are more relationship oriented and more capable of having successful relationships, tend to get off the apps and find these relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 03:05 AM |
| 4 | Having 0 suitors and 100 suitors is the same thing if you don’t like any of themI doubt any woman would have options truly that awful. If a woman describes them like that she is probably being dramatic and over the top | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 03:02 AM |
| 11 | Why do older people seem to give younger men more credit compared to younger women, in dating?Its modern progressivism that frames the world as putting people into groups of either oppressor or oppressed. To these people men are only ever in the oppressor group and thus we can never be victimized, this more so with women always put in the oppressed group, thus a woman is powerless to victimize a male in this hierarchy of victimization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:52 AM |
| 14 | Having 0 suitors and 100 suitors is the same thing if you don’t like any of themOr if they tried every chocolate available they might find that they actually like some of the chocolate options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:51 AM |
| – | Having 0 suitors and 100 suitors is the same thing if you don’t like any of themI think a very logical response to show that idea making no sense is to point out that even 100 bad options gives you a chance for something to happen if you change your mind, while 0 options doesn't. She may not like all 100 options, but if she actually put in some effort to message and talk to these guys, she probably would find some of them are better than her initial and initial superficial assessment. Lots of couples who are married who met in person wouldn't have even matched online, and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Pop culture is more female-oriented in the Gen Z 2020's, which is a big part of the shift.I think this has to do with a lot of things such as women involved or controlling 80% of consumer spending, access to smartphones where apps and internet are always available, dynamics of dating markets reflected by female choice on apps. Men are simply responding to this because men historically and in the present will do what it takes to get access to women. I think the smartphone and social media have increased the size of the world and connections to where women don't feel they need to ever … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:45 AM |
| 3 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsI think you are right about preferences but I also think you are missing maybe a far more important point in that the quality of single women isn't great. I think it has a lot to do with womens preferences and the general decline in the quality of women in the dating market. As a 30 year old guy, to find a woman on a dating app (in a major city) who isn't massively overweight or hideous, is a chore. I am not talking about matching with women on just these 2 desirability points, I mean just seein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:34 AM |
| – | How to get men in 30s to be more serious?I agree that your idea of vetting would make more sense than first couple of dates, but in my experience that is not how it usually happens. That is one reason I have been so turned off by dating women over 30. It comes across as desperate when the first date she is asking about kids and wanting to get married, but thats what so many of these women do. Those types of questions put so much weight on it that it makes the idea of dating her seem too heavy for not even being involved yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:51 AM |
| – | How to get men in 30s to be more serious?Finding women with low body counts over 30 is nearly impossible to do. I don't even know where they would be because I have never seen them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:47 AM |
| 2 | How to get men in 30s to be more serious?Finding women with low body counts over 30 is nearly impossible to do. I don't even know where they would be because I have never seen them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:47 AM |
| 1 | How to get men in 30s to be more serious?The point is that the woman got to have her fun times in her early 20s and when men get to where we want to be and have those options after 30, we don't want to immediately get married to someone the same age just because that is her biological imperitive as her clock ticks loudly. You have many men over 30 like myself who are not going to bail out some woman our age who wasted her best years casually dating and only NOW after her looks faded does she want someone to be her ideal husband. Women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:46 AM |
| – | How to get men in 30s to be more serious?The problem with 'vetting hard early' is that it translates into dates that feel like interviews and are not enjoyable. From the male perspective (I've been there) it looks like a woman over 30 whose clock is ticking where it is obvious that it is ticking and she is more concerned with finding someone to check boxes and connection is secondary. I leave those dates feeling zero connection to the person and with the impression that the person would be okay marrying anyone if the guy checked enough… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:42 AM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSIts called economics and the market is self-correcting. Aim too high and the person won't date you seriously because he or she has better options. Same as when people go too low how these options won't fit with what they can get. People who doubt this either don't understand economics or refuse to beleive it, usually out of coping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:30 AM |
| 1 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSI don't speak for everyone, but I can tell you how economics work and how markets generally work. People generally end up with people roughly of the same attractiveness because someone more attractive will not commit to someone less attarctive because he or she has way better options and would know it. People aim too high and get rejected and find the sweet spot of where they fit. This is not precise but you seem to think that this lack of absolute precision means that we can never say who or wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/23 01:27 AM |
| 4 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSMaybe at 22 the apps have a good selection, but at 30+ they do not. Over time the quality people tend to leave while the mentally unstable remain. The older you get the more this is the case. If a woman was committement oriented, stable, secure attachment, reasonable standards, and pleasant, what do you think the chances are that she will be on Tinder or Hinge at 32-35? Unless she just got out of a long term relationships the answer is near zero. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:43 AM |
| – | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSYour response was the definition of using too many words to say what could have been said in 1/10th as many. Yes beauty and desirability are subjective and not entirely definable for any person, but lets not get all posternistic and act like there aren't certain things that are more attractive and MOST people will generally put the attractiveness somewhere closer to where it belongs. It's like saying 'how are we to know that Gigi Hadid is any prettier than Lizzo' because beauty is in the eye of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:40 AM |
| 5 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSThe normal reasonable people are in relationships and not on tinder or hinge for extended periods of time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 03:29 AM |
| – | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BSI think most women consciously do not understand how her preferences are disconnected from her dating value. I have had discussions with women in my social circles and they ligitimately are not aware that successful handsome 6 feet tall men represent 2% of the population at most and the number of women pursuing these guys is many times higher than that. These women usually do not have any realistic idea about what her male equivalent is and how this equates to groups of men who will sleep with h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:32 AM |
| 14 | “80% of women date 20% of men” is BS I think that what people don't realize is the online dating numbers inevitably are going to be biased towards the pickiest most unreasonable women remaining. The reasonable women who have a realistic idea of their dating value and pursue, and are happy, with the men on their level will find relationships and leave the dating pool and thus be off the apps. Over time this means that most of the reasonable women are off these apps in long term relationships or married. Left on are the love avoida… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 01:29 AM |
| 1 | 4 things I feel men should always remember.I so strongly identify with the third one. When it comes to my own life I am not wanting that type but when it comes to women in my family I am suddenly a modern feminist not wanting them to get with broke guys. My hypocracy is beyond words on that front. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 12:07 AM |
| – | Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt?Because if she had a boyfriend and still accepted the drink that is acting in bad faith. She knew a guy asking her for a drink is assuming she is single. I wouldn't retaliate. At most I might say something about how it is was convenient to tell me about her partner then and not when I offered the drink. I would otherwise take the loss and accept it as what happens why you trying and find women at bars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/23 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt? The only reason a woman would lie (assuming she had the boyfriend) is to get a free drink. Her lying by omission is letting a guy think there is a chance, thus why he is buying her a drink, when there was no chance and she is just using him for a free drink. Flip the question around and ask guys with girlfriends if they would be okay with other men buying her a drink when you are not around. Most men would not be okay with it because everyone knows that accepting the drink is implying that she… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 05:24 AM |
| 3 | Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt?If she actually has a boyfriend, I call foul because nobody who does not live underground would mistake a guy offering to buy a woman a drink anything other than showing romantic intent. IF she has a parter, she is clearly not acting in good faith by leading him on that she is single by letting him buy the drink when she 100% knows he is showing interest and also 100% knows that telling him she has a boyfriend will not get her the free drink. If she doesn't have a boyfreind then I also call foul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/23 05:21 AM |
| 1 | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleAt least there maybe your other attributes can shine and something will happen. Best of luck to you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 09:48 PM |
| 1 | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Many men like myself have been busy working on other things in life and have not prioritized having a wife because that creates logistical issues. I worked 60+ hours a week to get where I am and I have postgraduate degrees to show for it. This isn't a failure, its not rushing into a situation that gives me no flexibility to achieve the things I have set out to do. It's not about lecturing women, its about telling them the truth. I've seen lots of women my age (over 30) who are having a nightmare… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 09:47 PM |
| 1 | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI met my partner on a dating app also which I am self aware enough to realize kind of goes against my whole argument. i think you and me have outcomes that seem to be atypical for these apps. I say that because most of the single people in my social circles seem to have a miserable time on these apps. I think many of these people have other obvious reasons for why they can't find a relationship, but it seems like there are far more bad experiences than good overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 09:29 PM |
| 1 | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI'm skeptical that will work. Dating and relationships only work if the other person wants you as well. A guy paying 500 dollars a month for the new Tinder highest elite status is not really going to help him other than the women who are blatantly gold diggers and only want him for the money. At that point he might as well hire an escort because that is functionally about the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 09:27 PM |
| 1 | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleA lot of things there. First my bias probably reflects that going on these apps to sleep with generally less than impressive women is not something most people find fulfilling for extended periods of time. Maybew I am under the ideal that a fulfilling committed relationship is just better. Your numbers show that Tinder does not work for 60% of men. I don't disagree that many of these guys are not the most desirable and would struggle at dating regardless of what method they were trying. My point… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 09:25 PM |
| 1 | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI would say I am definitely above average in looks and height. I have a post bachelor education in an area with prestige. Any way you slice it, I am in the top 10% of guys. Comparing my individual success with the average person is not valid. I did fine, but most of the women I matched with were not that great or had issues. I wouldn't even put 5% of my matches as actually relationship material. Most of the ones who were on that level were flaky and difficult because they probably had more match… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 09:15 PM |
| 1 | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleMayber men do date out of that fear. I didn't feel obliged to do that because I made it clear I wasn't looking for a relationship and I was not going to be manipulated into one. In my experience it felt like a 'bait and switch' type thing to use sex to get what the women wanted. For them to lie and say they only want to enjoy casual fun and then flip it to where they thought we were dating seriously, was not going to work for me. they should have been straight up like I was. I guess if women can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 09:11 PM |
| 2 | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleThose flags would make reddit a more amusing experience for us all! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV One Big reason why man today struggle is because they are delusional about they‘re own SMV.I agree. If a man will not give a committed relationship to a woman, it doesn't mean anything because anything less than that means he still can pursue all other options. He can sleep with her and anyone else. When he is willing to forgo those other options it shows something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 04:39 AM |
| 3 | CMV One Big reason why man today struggle is because they are delusional about they‘re own SMV.But they don't actually contextualize it liike that. They literally think that this top 20% is there level, but it was the guy who was an asshole for not committing and only when I find one willing to commit will I have a relationship with this level guy. These women absolutely either don't know the difference or are in complete denial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI ready sections of Das Capital years ago when I took a class on Marxism as an undergraduate. I couldn't get past his labor value theory how Marx thought the price of good should be based on the labor put into making the goods. No economist alive today would make that argument. I've seen the Peterson debate in question. Peterson destroyed him. It wasn't even close. I am in the sciences and my knowledge of Marxism isn't a scholar level, but I have read more of the source material than you think. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 04:37 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you single100%. Some exceptions to people who are very shy or those who work crazy numbers of hours who don't put time into relatonships. For people who kept trying and didn't get it for years, that is a major red flag | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:48 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleYes every statisstic is wrong. Communism is always a roaring success that never commits any wrongdoing against anyone. Also communist countries are the most economically successful and have the most freedom. Dilectal materialism is a religion that Fredrich Engles invented. We could talk about Hegel and how Marx flipped his dilectics on its head. Historical materialism at its base is how Marx thought that society was defined in the largest sense by the relationship between the working class and i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:47 AM |
| – | CMV One Big reason why man today struggle is because they are delusional about they‘re own SMV.I think a majority of women will not date the male equivalent of her. I am amazed by women in my social circles who are in the bottom third of women physically for their age who think they are above anyone outside of the top 20%. These women either get casual sex from these guys or stay single. Doesn't mean her 'value' is on par with the guys she wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:39 AM |
| – | CMV One Big reason why man today struggle is because they are delusional about they‘re own SMV.I don't disagree with many men overvaluing themselves, but this issue with men is far less than for women. Not even close. On dating apps to match with a woman who is above average in prettiness and not overweight is difficult. I have been called handsome many times, tall, and have postbachelor degree, and the matches I got on dating apps were mostly women who were way below me, and some decent ones as well. My exes are very attractive showing that I can get quality women. Amost all the men I kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:37 AM |
| – | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Its not that older women are trash. I think that depends on the person, not the age of the person. I think many men are not happy that they marry someone who is fit only to have her gain 100 pounds in the 5 years after getting married. In that cases the guy was led to believe he was getting one things where she stopped trying as soon as he committed to her long term because she thought she didn't have too. That I think is where the issue comes. I've seen a few guy friends who got married and kep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:30 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI havent used the apps for a while, but when I did I had lots of women who were at a level I wouldn't consider dating messaging me and flirting. Several I messaged back and a few times I hooked up with them just because they threw it on the table. I never promised them anything and even said I wasn't looking for a relationship. A few I hooked up with several times and then they want to start dating in a real sense or to agree to not see other people. I think these women did that is because I was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:24 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you single100 million people dead is just a statistic, not like those were real people or anything. Like Stalin said about millions of deaths being just a statistic nobody will care about. I could go into the issues with the Communist Manifesto if that would be better for you? Want to discuss Dialectical materialism? Historical materialism? Try me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:18 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI agree that most of the people who are chronically single are for a reason. They want someone better than they are, have insecure attachment, don't like monogamy, have mental issues, etc. I think that if everyone was 100% self aware enough to know their value on the dating market and only go after those people, that would help substantially with getting people into relationships. Also if people were able to identify their issues that would help. I guess my point is that it doesn't work because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:15 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI 100% agree that those on dating apps for years have a diproportionate number of people with personality disorders and lack secure attachment. I went on too many dates and after 3 minutes I could tell exactly what issues the person had that kept her single. Over time those who value monogamy and are capable of getting it will find someone and be off the apps while those that can't do it just keep getting thrown back in to the pool. Also the least desirable people get thrown back because most of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:11 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI'm in a relationship doing fine. My advice was more directed at other people struggling on the apps. Too many friends and people in my social circles are chronically single on the apps and I talked about the things I notice consistently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:03 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI did fine on dating apps when I was there. I am not the typical person and maybe you arent either. I see too many people I know struggling on these apps and also the fact that almost nobody likes them. I don't blame anyone. I was simply statiing the way things are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 03:01 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI agree that using the apps doesn't have to be anyones exclusive strategy. Reading any number of posts on these forums you get lots of guys who despite hating online dating, will say that meeting women in the real world is either impossible or too difficult. I think those men are wrong and making excuses by refusing to do something different when that thing has had little or no success for them. Apps cater to women just like bars do because they know that men will flock to where the women are at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 01:11 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI think it is about making money in terms of apps. Also in nature there is always going to be a hierarchy where those that do things better or appear to preferences will outcompete those that do not. The fastest strongest kid will usually be better at sports than the rest and better looking people will have more dating options. Kind of just the way it works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 01:05 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleIf you are a communist then there probably isn't any logic I can use to make anything make sense to you. If every failed communist experiment in the history of humanity can't change your mind, then I probably won't either. Maybe the 100+ million murdered by various communist countries in the 20th century might do that. Communism if for malevelent sadists or those who don't know anything about economics, political theory, or history generally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 01:04 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI don't believe women offline have such crazy standards because I have attractive exes and have always been able to get them easily, versus online matching with that same caliber of woman is far more uncommon than not. It makes sense. If a dude is desirable, any woman below that would date him and being near the top means that there are far more women below you than equal or above. I used these apps previously and had some hookups and friends with benefits type stuff. These were with women I mad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 01:01 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI didn't get into the fact that most men have very low success on these apps. Probably should have to further reinforce the argument. I think the only group to benefit from these apps is highly desirable men who now can get far more women because the costs in time and effort of messaging is way lower, and these guys will be desired by whatever women they come in contact with. You could argue it helps less desirable women because even they get matches. Most of those matches are not about men want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 12:57 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI think that is probably true. Men will continue to use dating apps even when they don't work for them. Women can get lots of matches on some apps, so they will flock to apps where they do have options. Kind of another reason for men to get off the apps at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 12:54 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleWhat is your point? In all those sentences you did not manage to communicate a single coherent idea other than some nonspecific rambling that doesn't actually explain anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/23 12:53 AM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleHomo Habilis and Australopithecus Aferensis evolved around 2 million years ago. We should turn this forum into one about anthropology and human evolution! That would mix things up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 11:20 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleMaybe there is a huge difference. Have not seen data that shows it is or isn't yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 11:19 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleMost common yes, still less than 40% is also yes. Means that more people still are not meeting with the apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 11:12 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleThat gets into a bad place of killing innovation and free enterprise. To just take over an app because it isn't 'ideal' is what communist countries do. Tinder may be awful, but it isn't breaking any laws last I checked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 11:11 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI think people act like the alternative is harder than it is. I think the quality of women offline is way higher, and these women have much more reasonable standards IMO. I have met most of my partners offline. To me, I would rather not waste my time and energy doing things that don't work. Thats completely irrational | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 11:05 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleMost people are not that self aware | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 11:03 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI don't disagree with what you said being that women often do not use these apps in ways that will lead to their success, to which they do deserve blame. I think this is true when women go for the 'best' options when there is such a gap between how desirable he and she is that it basically ensures there is 0 chance of him wanting anything but sex. Women make this miskae going after fuckboys thinking it will get them a boyfriend. I don't disagree with you. I think too many of the men are not fulf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 11:02 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleEven a broken clock is right twice a day. Even things that aren't great work sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:59 PM |
| 5 | Dear women of PPD, what do you think - is this place suitable for constructive discussion?I have felt that reading posts. Some posts seem so strange with how they view dating I sit here asking myself if the person who wrote it actually has ever dated before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:58 PM |
| – | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Most men don't do that. For every Leonardo who leaves his girlfriend before she turns 26, there are 10 normal guys who would rather build something with someone and have a life together. I've dated women 10 years younger than me and physically they are stunning, but it is also dealing with someone who has the problems that girl in her early 20s has, and those are not ideal. I think most men would rather find someone to build something with and hope she takes care of herself. My skin isn't as tig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:54 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you single Heres a link that shows 39% of relationships started online. In my experience 90% of the matches I had on the apps I used were less attractive than the women I have had relationships in the last 5 years. Almost every match could not hold a candle physically to my last 4 girlfriends. Most of the guys I know are the same way. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fchart%2F20822%2Fway-of-meeting-partner-heterosexual-us-couples%2F&psig=AOvVaw2OUadT9DQWinhtDKfoJQqr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:49 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleMy point is these apps are not good for women. The women I know complain that they date men who have no desire to have relationships with them and only want sex. I'm over 30 and women that age are generally looking for husbands, but it shows that women are largely not happy with what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:47 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleQuite possibly. I doubt they texted each other as often as we do today. Probably less dates to the movies and shopping centers as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:45 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleSource that tinder was not around 2 million years ago? Here is a source my friend Google quickly found me. Says 39% of relationships met online. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fchart%2F20822%2Fway-of-meeting-partner-heterosexual-us-couples%2F&psig=AOvVaw2OUadT9DQWinhtDKfoJQqr&ust=1700779448581000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCKjtwKnX2IIDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAI | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:45 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleHAHA most likely. Maybe you live in a retirement community of widowed elderly women... In that case it is possible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:39 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleIn person the way people have done for 2 million years. More relationships are found offline than online today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:38 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleThe apps are easier but people generally know they are shit. I don't think people are so robotic that they cant adjust somewhat. People still go to college even though a bachelor degree is a 4 year committement. that shows long term thinking. Maybe I am a delusional optimist | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:38 PM |
| – | People should get off dating apps because they are designed to keep you singleI agree with you how the business model is about making money and not helping users. Maybe with apps the difference is that people agree that they are dogshit. It seems to me like there is a generalized agreement from about everyone that these apps are not good for individuals or society. My point is that lets take that and make appropriate actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 10:36 PM |
| 1 | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Me neither! men are so gross! ewwww | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:26 PM |
| – | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?I think your premise is innaccurate. First of all woman who are married tend to age better because they aren't going out and drinking so often. Also most men don't leave their women because their wives have shown VALUE outside of just their looks. A guy who has married a 25 year old woman near her beauty prime is not likely to leave her because they have built love and a life together. He probably wishes she was always that pretty, but men rarily leave her in her 30s (or beyond) because she has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:26 PM |
| 2 | More men should consider taking antidepressantsThese pills often are prescribed long term because getting off of them is kind of a nightmare. Also with the categories used (SSRI, SNRI, etc.) they really have to try and figure out what works for each individual patient because most of these have success rates around 30% meaning that most first doses given will have to be adjusted. I think what is happening medically is doctors spend so much effort trying to get the treatment right that there is a fear that the person will have negative result… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:14 PM |
| – | More men should consider taking antidepressantsIt is a quicker 'fix' than someone going to the gym 5 times a week, or seeing a therapist, or reorganizing their life to manage stressors. Taking a pill requires opening a bottle and swallowing once per day. This is far less time or energy than the other things I mentioned that have been shown to lower depression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:11 PM |
| – | A combination of male and female imperative requires complete social restructuring.Exactly my point. Unless people are slaves who have no choice who they date or sleep with, there will never be a way to equalize dating success. Even the idea of equalizing dating success is as ridiculous as equalizing sports performance. Some people are stonger and faster than others and will always do better at sports. Way it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 09:08 PM |
| – | More men should consider taking antidepressants People want easy solutions to things and that means asking your doctor to give you pills. The doctor probably has too many patients and rather than go into all the explanations of stress and exercise and diet, it is easier to refer to a psychiatrist or prescribe an antidepressant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 05:20 AM |
| 11 | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Or don't want these guys until after they have been ran through where her looks and body have faded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 05:15 AM |
| 13 | If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life?Because life comes at people quickly. Its the analogy of aging star professional athletes that stick around so long that they just become average or below average players, yet still haven't realized that they just don't have it anymore. The same is true with women aging. I'm in my 30s and so many of the single women I have known are struggling now in the dating scene because they didn't see themselves in this position. They thought the attention and options of their 20s would be around for when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 05:15 AM |
| 16 | More men should consider taking antidepressantsI don't think most people understand the negative effects of antidepressants. Also they are a nightmare to get off of. The idea of getting on these meds is the idea of taking medication to cope. Studies have shown that going to the gym regularly can be just as effective as an andidepressant. People should try to exhaust all other alternatives before getting on these meds. The meds help the people that actually need them, but they are so overprescribed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/23 04:57 AM |
| 3 | A combination of male and female imperative requires complete social restructuring.Many people find monogamy more rewarding that sleeping around meaning that someone with a few monogamous partners is happier than someone with 50 partners. The 'losers' as you call them, should either look to improve themselves in others ways, lower their partners standards if they don't want to raise their own value, or focus on other things besides dating. Get an education or start a business and your dating life will improve along with you professional life. Dating isn't the end all. Again, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Does lovebombing even work when women do not like being put on a pedestal?If everyone could tell when they were being love bombed and prevent it, there wouldn't be bad effects of love bombing. The fact that it is often hard to see, shows that those who use the tactic are often skilled at doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 09:52 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmExactly, get on it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 09:51 PM |
| 4 | A combination of male and female imperative requires complete social restructuring.There is no system on earth or nature that is ever going to be 'equal' because hierarchies will always be present when there is any sense of preference or meritocracy. The best looking dude with great social skills will always be more desirable than the dide who is terrmible looking and broke who can't hold a conversation. This is the way it is and the way it will always be. It is the same in economics where those who are more skilled and work harder will do better most of the time compared to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 09:49 PM |
| 2 | Does lovebombing even work when women do not like being put on a pedestal?I as well, but I prefer them shorter than 3'3. 3'5 is too intimidating for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 09:41 PM |
| – | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmYour harsh 'truth' isn't ture. I have met almost all my girlfriends offline in my life. It is cited that 40%ish of relationships are met online. That means 60% are met ofline. In case math is hard for you, that means more relationships are met in the real world than online. I have empathy for people who live in reality. Your expectation is delusional based on your false perception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmI don't debate the societal importance of the internet. I doubt your logic when I have met almost all of my girlfriends off line in my life. Even if the 40% of people meeting online is accurate that means 60% are meeting OFFLINE | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 09:38 PM |
| 2 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmThis is what app companies want: they want to offer everyone all the hope and options imaginable, but keep the users single because their users who get into successful relationships or marriages will no longer use the apps. Its basically a very bizarre incentive structure that a successful app will lose all its customers. I think this reflects the environment of OLD now. They make it seem attractive for men that they can always get laid easily to keep them out of relationships and on the apps. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 06:30 AM |
| 2 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmIf you meet a woman in the real world, she isn't going to be online matching with those guys. Also in real life things about you other than looks, height, and job title, start to matter because a woman sees the whole of you. The women I match with online regularly are over 95% of the time less impressive than ALL 4 of my last girlfriends. I met these women in the real world where these women valued real things, not the fake stupidity that is online dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 06:25 AM |
| 2 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmYou are sounding kind out nuts dude | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 06:22 AM |
| 1 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmYou refusing to do anything that leads to what you want is your own fault. That is like me saying that it is impossible to get in shape because I refuse to go to the gym or exercise or eat well. Don't mistake reality for your bad decision making. You choose to be single with your actions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 06:21 AM |
| -1 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmYou need in reality and get off black pill bullshit. So many of the women offline actually have reasonable expectations and all you got to do is talk to them!!! Its such a crazy concept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 06:19 AM |
| 3 | Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harmWhat are you talking about? Most people meet their partners offline as they have since we were a species. Your perception that there is almost no chance online and is actually 0 offline is delusion. I struggle to believe your comment was serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 06:18 AM |
| 9 | A combination of male and female imperative requires complete social restructuring.Your post seems to imply that humans are robots who have no sense of emotions or ways we are wired to think. I think your view on human nature is completely out of touch with reality. One reason poly relationships seem like such chaos is because someone who loves another person will have emotions about that person having sex with other people. Men who love a woman, don't want the woman sleeping with other men because we care about her and are wired to want the love and sexuality of this person b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 06:12 AM |
| – | Does lovebombing even work when women do not like being put on a pedestal?I think your description is dead on. I've had a couple exes do it and looking back I am shocked how skilled they were. Maybe I was naive, but they portrayed it in a way that didn't seem so obvious. Their action and fake emotions came across as convincing. Its the kind of thing you wake up from a few months in and wonder what the hell happened and where did the person I used to know disappear off too. Kind of confusing actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 03:14 AM |
| 3 | Does lovebombing even work when women do not like being put on a pedestal?Or just be an actual person with honest emotions. A healthy partner will not need to be manipulated. This advice you gave is toxic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 03:11 AM |
| – | Does lovebombing even work when women do not like being put on a pedestal?People usually cannot sense that it is actually happening in real time. They could see it just like so many romantic movies paint it as some 'special' connection that only the couple experiencing it could understand. I've been on the receiving side of it. I can say it is far easier to sense it when you are looking back and not when you actively experience it at the moment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 03:11 AM |
| 4 | Does lovebombing even work when women do not like being put on a pedestal?I have never love bombed anyone because I think it is bullshit and manipulative, but I have known guys I am fairly certain have. For them it works very well. The ones I think do it are desirable dudes who are good looking and have attributes that women generally like a lot. These guys seem to have women wrapped around their fingers because they always provide these women with some reinforcement. I think that its these women seeing a very desirable guy who wants her and gives her attention and va… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 03:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Love and romance is dead by the time people are in their 30sI think its the difference in biological clock. Women at 30 are usually feeling that hard and they want to settle down then because its on her clock. Men at 30 very often feel no rush because we can have kids at 50 if we want. Woman don't like that because it means men their age have other options and can do a timeline that isn't ideal for them. I gave up on dating 30+ women. There is just no enjoyment out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 07:36 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Love and romance is dead by the time people are in their 30sThats a very absolute stance and can be refuted to a degree by the fact that many people marry after 30. If it was just 'transactional' than many men would have zero transactional benefit in marriage because their wealth can buy them all the benefits without taking the risk. Without love the actions of these men would make no sense. As a dude in my early 30s, I would agree with you that dating isn't that enjoyable with women my age. These dates feel like strange job interviews like the women try… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 03:46 AM |
| 2 | Western Women are the luckiestMost people who slam the West are the same people who have no clue about how good we have it generally now or in the context of looking at people through human history. On average, we can expect to live about 80 years in the West. The 'poorest' people in America have access to food and freshwater that is better than most people on the earth even 50 years ago. People who hate the West generally are ignorant and hold the West accountable for every issue we have, while at the same time completely i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Do you think there’s a lack of good men?Hope you are not actually a communist. These leftist conflict theories and social constructivist frameworks think humans can be made into anything they want us to be made into. It's feminists arguing that attraction trends seen all over the world are due to media imaging and not because our brains were wired to like certain body types because these display biological cues to fertility and good genes. Marx himself thought humanity could be remade completely and rules of economics or human nature … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 02:06 AM |
| 4 | Do you think there’s a lack of good men?Left leaning ideologies hate things such as evolutionary psychology or the idea that there is an innate nature of humanity because it goes against their social constructivist framework that all issues can be solved if only we can change society because people are completely maliable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Do you think there’s a lack of good men?You are right in the sense that men have no motivation to be honest from a rwards standpoint. There are a lot of attractive charismatic guys who can get what they want with tons of women by playing on her emotions and making her think he is really into her, when in fact he has no desire for anything but sex. I've known a few of those guys. I think this reflects women who are looking at the wrong things in dating. Wanting a super charismatic good looking person will get you that, but it won't mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:07 PM |
| 32 | Do you think there’s a lack of good men?I have tried giving this advice to a few women I know who are chronically single over 30. I tried to be sensitive and let them know that their standards basically eliminate 98ish percent of men and the 2% of men remaining are going to have a lot of options and getting them to want and commit to you will be a difficult and probably unachievable task. To put it shortly, the women never take that very well. I then get coping phrases about 'knowing my worth' and 'not settling'. Not trying to swallow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Do you think there’s a lack of good men?I think there are a lot of good men that women don't consider for numerous reasons. For good men I consider to be honest, loyal, caring, hard working, and is willing to put in effort. We go on about hypergamy, but it is definitely a real problem. I'm in my 30s and most the single women in my social circles are struggling to date in large part because they have standards that would eliminate well over 90% of men from consideration. These women want men who are good looking, fit, charismatic, succ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 09:58 PM |
| 1 | The quality of women’s dating app profiles in Europe is far superior to the profiles of women in USA.I've dated international women (don't ask where) and I would say that these women put American women to shame. The women outside the US were far less overweight that physically it was not even a comparison. I felt the women outside of the states had less of the 'angry feminist attitude' towards men that showed resentment and annoyance. There was far less of the godess complexes as well. The women actually are enjoyable to talk too and have far less of the vibe that even messaging you is a hassle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older menWhat constitutes older men? I've had numerous exes 5-10 years older than me (in my early 30s) and many did like that I had things guys their age did not. One ex even said that she liked how we could have much better conversations than with guys her own age because they just talk about drinking and stupid shit because they don't know anything. I have also heard from several exes that it is sexy for a guy to have ambitions and actually achieve things versus many guys 18-22 who often don't have dir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 02:29 AM |
| 1 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.That would be a nice way to push your narrative forward. I don't buy it with how many stories we see of people who did a DNA family lineage service to find out the dad they thought wasn't the actual father or they had a full sibling who in fact had a different dad. This stuff happens more than society wants to believe because it is not pleasant to accept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 10:54 PM |
| 1 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.Why would someone sign up for a study with explicit criteria that you are biologically related to your child if the man knew he wasn't related? Either the guy is a complete moron or just likes filling out paperwork for the sake of doing so. Its makes zero sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 10:36 PM |
| 2 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.i wonder how common the cheating was. Part of me thinks that the social acceptability of cheating would be far less in decades past when casual sex was much less socially accepted. There also have been so many instances of people who do geneology sites who run their DNA and find out family secrets about paternity that they were not expecting. Many of these DNA services actually warn in a disclaimer that you may find out truths about your family that could be emotionally devastating and are compl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 10:12 PM |
| 1 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.These men stated that they were the biological fathers so whatever the situations they were led to believe that their sperm conceived this child. I read the study years ago and being the biological parent was a requirement for admission to the study as a participant. I don't remember the whole study but I do remember that being a criteria. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 10:09 PM |
| – | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.I can tell you a lot about behavioral genetics as a methodology, but no I cannot tell you the specific of the study other than those results. For the point of the discussion, I don't see the relevence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 10:07 PM |
| 1 | The reality of dating for menExactly! These apps make people want the wrong things by only highlighting things such as looks, height, and job title. All other aspects of self such as humor, charisma, chemistry, interests, being a good person, body language, intelligence- these all are eliminated because a picture cannot show any of these attributes. When you have a woman in front of you met off these apps, these things can shine and she can see the value in you she may not have seen. so many men and women have said their sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:30 PM |
| 1 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.1 in 12.5 men being decieved is paranoia. Paranoia is like worrying about a 1/100,000 event, not something you could expect of about 2.5 children in a classroom of 30 students. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:27 PM |
| – | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.Those 8% of men in the behavioral genetics study seem sure 'knowing their partners were loyal and honest', and how did that go for them? The answer is they are raising a kid they thought was theirs but isn't. Those 8% of men stated explicitely they were the biological parents before the study (as would be needed for that kind of study). Your logic is absurd. Thats why people pay for termite inspection- because they DON'T KNOW. That is why men want paternity testing- becaust they DON'T KNOW. It i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:25 PM |
| – | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.Your grandma is from a generation where this cheating was probably far less common. I'm not under an illusion that this stuff didn't happen, but I don't think it was as common prior to the sexual revolution and dating apps where affairs are much easier to have now compared to then. I have heard women in their 50s fight against universal testing, or defending laws that don't allow men to get the kid tested without her consent (like in France). These women 50+ are not able to have kids and still s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:20 PM |
| 1 | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.The fact that feminists almost always oppose university paternity testing shows clear as day that they don't actually care about or support gender equality. If they cannot support a position so reasonable as this it just shows that they are just womanists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 09:17 PM |
| 4 | Hookup culture is insidious and most people aren’t cut out for itIt depends what people want in life I guess. It suits some people for long periods of time, though I don't necessarily think most of them are functional. I think that people who engage in hookup culture for too long will struggle to be monogamous. I don't know if it that the more dysfunctional people are drawn into hookup culture and would not have been successful at monogamy regardless, or if its people who become dysfunctional because they were in the culture. Some people do it for a short per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 07:51 AM |
| – | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.Women view it emotionally. There was a big behavior genetics study in the 90s that had results showing 8% of men who said they were biological fathers in fact were not the fathers of the children they said were biologically theres. If that 8% number is a representative number for how often paternity fraud is (it may or may not be, its another discussion to be had) that would mean that 1 in 12.5 men who think they are biologically fathers are in fact not. Most people wouldn't choose to buy a hous… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 07:42 AM |
| – | One of the biggest red flags for guys to look for in women is if they are against paternity testing. By being against it they out themselves as selfish at best or cheaters and manipulators at worse.I disagree that it is because she intends to cheat or do that. I think it is more about women taking the side of other women because women all have a vested interest in supporting a system that benefits the collective female interest- even if doing so is not defensible in the instance. This is the primary reason most women hate the red pill arguments; it creates a world where the comfortable scenerios the world (and feminism) have taught her are not actually true. TRP is the antithesis of the fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 07:37 AM |
| – | Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreatedI have been on a couple dates in my life with women who were legitimately shocked that I just got out of a long term relationship AND I actually asked to go on a date with her. Several of these women seemed shocked that guy was actually someone who did relationships and that I asked her on a date instead of asking her to come over and Netflix and chill. I didn't end up going on dates with any of them again, but it made me question what the hell their dating eperiences had been. Was their experie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/23 12:34 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Normal women get ignored.Not 99% but I was shocked at the low quality of single women on dating apps | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 02:53 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Normal women get ignored.These trends are a disturbing trend among single women. I don't have exact numbers, but the fact that myself and so many guys I know get girlfriends WAY prettier than the women we match with shows that these entiteld or hypergamous standards of single women are not just isolated to a small percentage of women. I do move on as do most men. the problem is when the number of quality women is too low for most men to get someone who is even tolerable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 02:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Normal women get ignored.These trends are a disturbing trend among single women. I don't have exact numbers, but the fact that myself and so many guys I know get girlfriends WAY prettier than the women we match with shows that these entiteld or hypergamous standards of single women are not just isolated to a small percentage of women. I do move on as do most men. the problem is when the number of quality women is too low for most men to get someone who is even tolerable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 02:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Normal women get ignored.These trends are a disturbing trend among single women. I don't have exact numbers, but the fact that myself and so many guys I know get girlfriends WAY prettier than the women we match with shows that these entiteld or hypergamous standards of single women are not just isolated to a small percentage of women. I do move on as do most men. the problem is when the number of quality women is too low for most men to get someone who is even tolerable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 02:52 AM |
| – | The reality of dating for menMen need to get off of online dating. That is the story here. The apps have algorithms that make men and women feel that there are so many attractive people and you can get one. These apps give women especially an illusion of infinite choice for several reasons. The first is that women who are satisfied will find a partner and get in a relationship and leave the app. These apps make money by ads and paid plans. These apps foster hypergamy by giving a false illusion of choice because making femal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 01:42 AM |
| 10 | CMV: Normal women get ignored.You have to meet women in the real world. My last 4 girlfriends were decent looking and on the apps I would estimate that at least 93% of matches I got were women less physically attractive than all 4 of my exes. I mean that if these matches were put in a room with my 4 exes, the matches would be the least attractive over 90 percent of the time. Guys would be amazing how much better women are who are not on the apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 01:35 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Normal women get ignored.I think you overestimate what men actually want from women. I have met most of my previous girlfriends in person with apps being the exception. If I asked the question of 'what percent of women that match with me (assuming I just swipe right on everything for time sake) are prettier than ANY of my last 4 girlfriends', I would have to answer that at least 90+ percent of my matches on Tinder, Hinge, or Bumble were less physically impressive than my last 4 exes. I use the benchmark of commited rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 01:32 AM |
| – | The problem with stepdads is that most of the time these women wouldn't date them if they didn't have kidsIts the way the world works. There was a book years ago (link below) called 'the case for settling for Mr. good enough', that talked about the scenerio many women face around the time they hit 30. The link has reviews and if you click to the 1 star reviews most of them are women who are coping and upset with the implication that many single women are single because they are superficial and have unreasonably high standards. They sound just like the single friends of your mother. The book describe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI have been in a research lab that used data mining where you hand out packets of papers of surveys to undergraduate students on dozens of variables with answers of 1-7 for 'strongly disagree' to 'strongly agree'. You then use a computer program to run hundreds of multifactorial ANOVA's together trying to find 'statistical significance' and then once finding these 'significant' results, work backwards and develope some idea to explain the data and publish. When running hundreds of calculations a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 11:32 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI agree. There is a reason women why women are on these apps for years . If she wanted someone on her level she would have found it. Denial is a powerful force. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 11:20 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousn par with two world wars and a sexual revolution? to compare the 'shift' as only meaningful if it can compare to Wars that killed over 100 million people and the sexual revolution; is an absurd comparison. I would not put the effects of dating apps and social media on par with WW2 alone just like no reasonable person would. There are so many issues with a single page and 156 participants attempting to explain an entire generation of people. Pasted a link below. For a 3% margin of error and a 95… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 11:04 PM |
| – | The real wall is the fertility wallThere are many competing things at play. Social influences with many women not wanting to have kids young because of education/school/social reasons are a huge reason many women dont want kids in their early 20s. I think this is why man women around 30 get a stong urge to have children because they put that off for so long along with the reality that their fertility clock is ticking louder each year and finding her future husband is a process that needs to get moving. I think that both social an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:53 PM |
| 3 | Q4M- How would you feel if your wife got your child a medical exam after you looked after them to make sure you didn't molest them?First of all when you throw around a topic as serious as the abuse of children, the words 'way more men' and 'not too unlikely your child was abused', are just not appropriate.- precision is necessary. Research typically puts the range from 1-5% of men being these predators. So even your posting acting like this is so widespread is bullshit when the evidence does not support that. Also how many of these predators are on the street compared to jail is a question I would like to know because I dou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:34 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousDo you know what the term 'construct validity' means? It means that the variables and measures are measuring what they claim to be measuring. So much of psychological research is done on 18-23 year old undergraduates at American Universities where the 'findings' are extrapolated to be about an entire population even though these demographics being tested are not even close to representative of the whole population. If that screenshot is from a study like most of the psychology research is done, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:25 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI think that the "instagram mentality" is also at play. Women can see other women on instagram and how good they look with their partners and feel like they has to compete with that. The single women 30+ I've met have so much coping where they are using their partner as ego validation of her self-worth. I've heard so many times some derivitave of 'I know my worth', or 'I won't settle'- phrases that are both about how she feels she is above the options available to her. I agree that so much of it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 10:17 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI think the women say this as a way to try and get a guy interested in her who she doesn't think would be if sex wasn't there. Maybe the way I've done it has caused issues. With FWB, I've been in situations where my life was too busy for a relationship and I am okay with myself and her agreeing to sleep only with each other for however long it happens for the rational purposes of lowering the STD risks. To me thats a rational choice of keeping us safe. I get a sense that women's brains don't rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:40 PM |
| 1 | The real wall is the fertility wallBut do these women want these men you listed? From my anecdotal experience of seeing single women 30-35, I see frequet frustration of the men who are pursing them for dating/relationship purposes. These women are not finding and average looking 39 year old man with 2 kids who is divored as a very desirable dating option. If these women 30-35 were interested and attracted to these guys, they could find a husband rather easily. I guess that goes back to the point of my OP that the women not findin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:35 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI have taken plenty of statistics thank you. 200 people in a country of 340 million is a joke for a representative sample- even assuming it was a perfect random sampling for those small numbers. My bad on the graph being about age being born. Swear I am more literate than that. I would need more context on what the study is and what year it was taken. It doesn't show methodology or get into demographics of the sampling. Did the results end recently or a decade ago when dating apps were far less … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:32 PM |
| 1 | The real wall is the fertility wallMy last 2 exes were over 8 years younger than me. In ways I think they enjoyed dating me compared to guys their own age for many reasons. I can hold a conversation better in my early 30s compared to a guy in his early 20s. Confidence is way higher. I have more money to do fun activities and take trips compared to early 20s. Many men like myself also are more focused on moving forward with life and maybe marrying- something that would appeal to more traditional women who see guys their own age as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:27 PM |
| – | The real wall is the fertility wallThe evidence is numerous in terms of attachment of parents to newborns. Look at how a mother giving birth is flooded with oxytocin after birth (meaning after contractions are done that are stimulated by it as well) as a way to help her bond with the infant that will take so much of her time and energy. Look at stories of men who die trying to protect his children when coming under attack. The whole framework of evolutionary psychology is the ability to produce viable offspring with an endless li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:22 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousThere might be data, but I am just basing this off what I have seen as dude in my 30s and the data on how much of the dating success is following something close to a 80:20 model with most of the men at the top enjoying most of the success. Any model of the 80:20 variety will mean that the women having casual sex will inevitably be sleeping with men on a higher tier than herself some degree of the time. I have seen below average women with very high body counts were almost all of her partners ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:19 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI think it is more that women in their 30s overvalue themselves to a shocking degree. There is a reason that many men in their early 30s strongly prefer dating women 25-28 over a woman 30-35. that is because these women score higher in so many areas on average. Plus dating younger women doesn't feel like an interogation on the first date where she is just trying to qualify or disqualify you rather than connect on an emotional level. The single women I know 30+ seem to have no actual comprehensio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:15 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousNot sure your intentions, but I wasn't even really intending to use the apps that way. I simply responded to the hand I was being dealt. My experience seems to be that of many men I have spoken to on the subject that matches on apps are not as desirable as the women we can get outside of the apps, and women who have been in committed relationships with us over the last few years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:09 PM |
| 1 | The real wall is the fertility wallI your experience is reflected by most of the committement and children oriented men being out of the dating pool by their early 30s and leaving men who either don't want marriage and kids or men maybe do but are in no hurry because they can have kids in their 40s and beyond if they want too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:07 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI think you are right in why this entitlement of getting a top guy has led to why 70% of the divorces filed are done by women. I look at the single women I know my age over 30 and they frequently go between going after the top percent guys who don't want them for anything other than short term, and the men who want them who are usually late 30s and older, often have kids, and usually have been divorced at least once. These women I have seen are not attracted to the men who want relationships wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:04 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI didn't say a majority of 25 year old women. I said a large amount of the chronically single women in their early 30s do have high expectations. These are some ofthe women I know in my social circles and the women I have matched with on apps when I was using them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 09:00 PM |
| 2 | The real wall is the fertility wallMy last 2 relationships were women over 8 years younger than me. The relationship befor that was over 5 years. I don't think many men go on forums just to lie about their datiing history. Maybe some do, but that shows a shocking amount of insecurity if they do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:58 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI think the women say that, but I don't think it is true much of the time. Every time I had a casual hook up or became hookup budies with a woman from an app, it would become her wanting actual dates or wanting to introduce me to friends or some level beyond the 'physical' she said was 'all she was looking for'. Thats my experience for whatever its worth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:56 PM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousThat is true that so many more men today have have pretty much completely exited from the dating world entirely. It feels like the changes are so substantial to even 15 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:54 PM |
| – | The real wall is the fertility wallAs a guy in my 30s, I have dated women 5-10 years younger than myself for years now, as have most of my single friends. I enjoy dating these younger women more because dates don't feel like an interrogation or job interview compared with a woman in her mid 20s. Also dating women in their 20s doesn't put so much pressure on the relationship to get very serious quick like a woman in her 30s who is concerned with her fertility clock and not wasting time of a relationship if it doesn't get her what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:57 AM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI would describe as the average level of my last 4 committed relationships. If a woman is willing to commit to a guy publically to her friends/family/and other social groups- I will presume to say that level of committement through multiple relationships would tell to some accuracy how desirable a man is. With a committed relationship, a woman is publically saying to the world she finds you good enough to associate with you on an intimate level. Because of all those social ties, men and women ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:50 AM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI agree that online dating self-selects for those with unstable attachment styles, emotional issues that make successful relationships a challenge, and those that don't want stable relationships. I've met many women my age in their 30s who want a husband and children who keep on these apps trying to get men at a high level while finding the less desirable men that are willing to date them (divorced men or older men with kids) as unattractive and not what they want. You could argue these women ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:47 AM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything serioushttps://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/numwomen-m.png The graph ends in 1989- thats 34 years ago... I would love to see the data for the last 3 decades because so much has changed culturally and with technology. Also the sample sizes from the 1970s to 1989 are less than 200 for each decade. that is not a sample size that I would take seriously as representative or with enough statistical power to take much away from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:42 AM |
| – | Hypergamy has made mostly made dating apps a tool for men to sleep with women they wouldn't date and women to chase after men out of their league who have no interest in anything seriousI'm over 30 and I can tell you this modern dating environment wasn't anywhere close to this level 15 years ago. This thing did happen with guys sleeping with women they wouldn't date, but far fewer women back then had expectations of getting a top 1% guy. There were women like that, but it is nowhere near what dating apps have done giving tons of women hope that they can get that guy when they actually have close to 0 change. I'm saying there is a meaningful difference in the degree that it is h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 08:38 AM |
| – | The real wall is the fertility wallI don't think it is as simple as that. I think you are talking about the neurochemical signals women often get when hitting their late 20s as biology telling them to get it together and have a baby. I have seen many women who go from that switch in their late 20s to early 30s where they suddenly want a committed relatoinship and want men they could see as future husband material. You are right that biological drive to reproduce is part of the equation- evolutionary psychology would absolutely ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 07:12 AM |
| 1 | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?The CEOs, judges, politicians and journalists make up far less than 1% of men and don't actually tell the reality of what a typical man looks like. I find it interesting how most of the pro-feminist types that say the same thing you do about men 'picking themselves up from their bootstraps', are the same left leaning people who would never find that conservative attitude acceptable for any other issue. An example is more men than women in corporate high positions. These same left leaning feminis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:31 AM |
| – | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?Because the societal biases against men are prevalent almost anywhere you look. The bias against men getting alimony is very prevalent in society where men judge other men as weak if they get alimony from an ex wife, while society is far less hostile to women receiving alimony from men. The sex of the judge is irrelevent in the sense that the bias still exists and is asserted in judgements. Look at the biases against men by the media, shows and movies, social media, and academia. The major ways … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Women indulge in hyper-gamy even in today's age. They say so explicitlyI would argue that women are hypergamous, but I disagree with your take that they will explicitely say so. Women far more than men engage in reputational management and as a result are less likely to say what they actually mean or believe out of fear that they will look bad. For this topic you will see that large numbers of women absolutely are engaged in hypergamy, but they usually won't call it that. I'm a dude in my 30s and I've been given a view to women my age in my social groups who are st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 03:52 AM |
| – | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?If men ON AVERAGE are getting harsher prison sentences for the SAME CHARGES as women that means for doing the SAME CRIMES based on charges, the man can be expected to serve 63% longer prison sentences than women on average. What this means is that a woman facing 10 years in jail for a charge ON AVERAGE would mean the man is going to serve 16.3 years- or 63% LONGER THAN HER. Having to serve that extra 6.3 years in this example (equal to the 63% longer sentences for men on average compared to wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 03:41 AM |
| – | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?⬆️ 10 upvotes! · 9hGo see your comment on r/PurplePillDebate: "Why do men sleep 'd..." I don't think that the female perpetrators bring about the sense of rage that male ones do and thus are not pursued so vigorously. I also would speculate that males as victims might be less likely to see themselves as victims that females so they are not reported the conduct as often. Most appointed judges being men doesn't matter because the evidence is clear that men are getting longer sentences for apples t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:46 AM |
| – | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?They are the same thing. Not getting screwed over is a privelege. The 2 positions are 'getting screwed over' and the other is 'not getting screwed over'. Being in the 'not getting screwed over' box is a privelege because it is a clearly more preferred position to be in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/23 12:33 AM |
| – | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?Makes sense. Why address the points if they don't support your narrative. Easier to just ignore them completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 03:21 AM |
| – | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?Even if 95% of pedophiles were men (I doubt it is that high) that doesn't make it acceptable for male pedophiles to get higher prison sentences than women when they are being sentenced for the same charges. Each person in front of a court is a person and each person should have to face the punishment for what they have done. women do not face the same punishment for men for the same crimes. That is my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 03:20 AM |
| 1 | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?My points were not lies. It is society in general that doesn't see men as important | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/23 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?You missed the point. Men are getting longer sentences for the SAME CHARGES. The number is irrelevent. It is an apples to apples comparison saying that men and women of identical charges (charged with a 3rd degree felony assault or 2nd degree vandalism etc.). For doing the same charges we as men get the 'privelege' of longer prison or civil penalties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women?I am a man in my 30s and I can say from what I have seen that women my age HATE that men are dating younger women. I was dating a woman 10 years younger than myself recently and the negative responses I received from women my age were just over the top. Apparently dating a 22 year old college graduate is dating a 'child' according to the women over 30 that I know in my social circles. I think if these women were completely honest, it would be outrage that the men they want to date would rather d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?For the most successful men you are talking .0001% of men. This is like 1 in a million or 1 in several hundred thousand men and in no way represents the typical male experience in life. When feminists (not saying you are one) point to the most successful men be it billionaires or presidents, they are using some easy representative as opposed to making a nuanced argument that looks at typical people. I think it is easier to be a 23 year old woman right out of college today than it would be a male… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 10:31 AM |
| 3 | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?Men I have known have struggled to get 50/50 custody and fought like hell to get it. One guy I know had to fight off ridiculous abuse claim after another by her and her attorney to deny him that equal custody. My point about movies is how we regularly see movies that are so blatantly spiteful towards me. The Barbie Movie is a perfect example of writers and director who clearly detest men. The chances that a major studio company would make something similar but in reverse where women are shit on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 06:20 AM |
| 12 | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?Women do face issues, I would never claim otherwise. The difference is that society actually gives a shit about the problems women face. I find it strange that when arguing with feminists they will argue that each issue is a social structural argument and only when we change society will these issues be fixed. This reflects that most feminists are left wing progressives. When it comes to issues that affect men, they have this whole 'men need to pull themselves up from their bootstraps' attitude … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 04:07 AM |
| 9 | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?You ignore everything I said that shows institutional issues. The media, academia biased against men. Ignored men getting longer sentences for the same crimes. Ignored men getting screwed in civil court and divorces. Try again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 04:04 AM |
| 24 | Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges?Probably biased, but I would say women have more priveleges overall in society. Short list: -women cannot be forced to serve and die in the military -far more men in prisons -men get far longer prison sentences for the same charges -men get screwed in custody and allimony in civil courts - more homeless men -more men addicted to alcohol and drugs -more men die of overdoses -men are 90% of on the job fatalities -men work most of the dangerous and physically demanding jobs in society (construction… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 03:15 AM |
| 3 | Why do men sleep 'down' so much?Its that men will treat women different based on what box we put them in. If a man only see her as a casual sex option he isn't going to put in much time or effort, and likely will only see her if she wants to have sex straight away (depending on the guy). A woman he thinks is relationship worthy, he isn't going to ask her to come sleep with him right away because she probably won't (because she is desirable) and he doesn't want to tank what potentially could be something longer term. Men can go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 03:04 AM |
| 4 | Why do men sleep 'down' so much?You treat each option differently. A woman who fits in category 1 gets invited to come over and category 2 gets asked out on a date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 12:12 AM |
| 9 | Why do men sleep 'down' so much?It is so true. A woman lower in attractiveness in my experience, will sleep with me easier, is more excited when spending time with her, is a better conversation, puts in more effort during sex. I think that many attractive women have horrible personalities because they could get away with it. They had so many options and could find a new guy in a second if he wouldn't put up with her attitude. Unattractive women cant get away with this terrible personality so they learn to be better people. Thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 12:11 AM |
| 3 | Why do men sleep 'down' so much?Most guys are not rude and will try and lightly let a woman down. Its guys saying "I'm not looking for anything serious right now". That translates too 'I don't want a relationship or anything serious with you'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 12:06 AM |
| 2 | Why do men sleep 'down' so much?I think men are using duel strategies. Most men would have a relationship with a woman on her above his level because he sees someone who he thinks is worth it. These same men also will sleep with women below his level because these women aren't affecting his pursuit of the more desirable women. This is how men will respond to matches very differently based on how he values her. If he sees her as relationship material, he isn't going to flirt super hard and ask her to come over and sleep with hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Why do men sleep 'down' so much?The solution is that women who want men better than them (hypergamy) will get men who only view them as options for sex. If women would be okay with dating her male equivalent and not give up sex so quickly, she would find men willing to date her and have relationships. Every guy I know, and I've done this too, who has casual sex and one night stands, is usually doing it with women slightly or moderately below his level. Its women who offer sex quickly and often without even having to be taken o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/23 12:01 AM |
| 14 | Why do men sleep 'down' so much?Men take the tradeoff that we will sleep with a woman below us and do relationships only at our level. This is why hypergamy isn't working for women. It only gets them involved with men who will never commit to them and see them only as short term options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 11:56 PM |
| 45 | Why do men sleep 'down' so much?Plus its just easier to sleep with less attractive women. These women who aren't as desirable will sleep with guys way easier than a very attractive woman. I think its because they know the guy wont be interested if she expects him to spend a lot of time and money taking her out. They get to enjoy someone hotter than them and the guy gets sex easily, thats pretty much it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 11:55 PM |
| – | Solving men's struggles on OLD is easier than you think (with the help of AI!)Because men will swipe yes on anything and go on these apps no matter how bad their success is. That says to the apps that they can make them as non-male friendly as possible and men will still use them while women have apps with options that are meant with the entire purpose of appealing to women- see Bumble for instance. Thats why no app shows concern with how men like or don't like the app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 06:19 AM |
| – | Solving men's struggles on OLD is easier than you think (with the help of AI!)I don't think they want it to work for anyone. Anyone who has the successful outcome of an app will be in a relationship, which women strongly prefer over random hookups, will be off the app and thus isn't making the company money. I think what the companies do is try and offer HOPE that they can get you someone amazing and the massive number of users on them is how they see that hope. They want women to think they can get an amazing guy so that she isn't interested in men on her level, so she d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 06:17 AM |
| – | Solving men's struggles on OLD is easier than you think (with the help of AI!)I think the OP proposal was so off the rails nuts that even making it make sense is just not possible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 06:15 AM |
| – | Solving men's struggles on OLD is easier than you think (with the help of AI!)Your idea is insane. Like seek some help level crazy. I think a better use of anyones time would be to meet women in person or spend the time going to the gym and getting an education; things that offer you benefits in life. Creating all these profiles won't help because women reject most profiles anyway. they reject 80% of profiles so what is rejecting a few more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 06:14 AM |
| 2 | Oppression olympicsI think your point that 'we all have it pretty terrible' is inaccurate. People have no perspective of history. Right now, we live in the safest most productive time anywhere in human history. The 20th century was the least violent century on record, and that is including the tens of millions of people (mostly men) who died in the world wars. The 'average' person today in America and most of Europe can expect to live about 80 years on average. Global poverty is in sharp declines of even 20 years … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 02:26 AM |
| 1 | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.If someone makes enough money his or her partners income really isn't going to affect the lifestyle substantially. A woman who makes 150k+ should financially be in a position to take off time for a child without enough in the bank and maternity leave. The fact that women on this level struggle to find husbands because they expect men who make more than them, shows it isn't a practicality thing and more of an ego thing. That was the whole point of this thread- that men and women view relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 02:02 AM |
| – | Is it unfair that hinge has a height preference but doesn’t have a weight/body type preference?Ive been on several dates in my life where the women was at least 60 pounds heavier than any picture she posted. I felt lied to when I saw them in person and what they were was very different than what the picture showed. I think a weight filter would be even more frustrating because someone selecting something to weed a heavy person out would mean that to see a woman who is heavier than that, she would have had to explicitely lie on her listed weight. That would be another level of deception an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 06:57 PM |
| – | Is it unfair that hinge has a height preference but doesn’t have a weight/body type preference?They don't do this because the app would become so undesirable by women that most women wouldn't use it all. The AVERAGE American women is a size 16 with around 40% of women being obese and 2/3 women overall being at least overweight. Considering men have a strong preference against overweight women, this would basically mean that these overweight women, who already are having issues getting the men they want on dating apps, would be even that much more challenged. From my experience as a dude i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 06:46 PM |
| 5 | Does organised prostitution indeed prove that sexual intercourse is more important for gynophilic men than for androphilic women?Actually flip your question on its head to if women would sleep with a man as easily as men will sleep with women if that woman knew there was a 100% chance she would have an orgasm. I still don't think that many women would say yes if she could be as sure of having an orgasm as men are. Thats ignoring the infeasability of how she could be 100% of an orgasm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Does organised prostitution indeed prove that sexual intercourse is more important for gynophilic men than for androphilic women?I've messaged women on dating apps previously who I matched with who had something provacitive in their bio, where they said they would do something sexual after a date or a few. I don't know if that is very typical for women TBH | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 06:36 PM |
| 9 | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.perience, the women I've talked to" instead of speaking in generalizations all the time. That's why women attack rp's rigid thinking, because a lot of red pill men speak like this and it's bleeds into them thinking that all women actually are like that instead of just the people they attract I think there is a big difference in how women attacking men make generalities and men do back. Saying that MORE women than not show a major concern with the income of a man is a closer reflection to reality… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 06:35 PM |
| 5 | Does organised prostitution indeed prove that sexual intercourse is more important for gynophilic men than for androphilic women?Valid points. I think that women still have an abundance of sexual options and thus are rarelly overtempted for an offer like that from someone on the street. I think most men would still be that down for sex if it was offered just because of how our brains are wired. It's not rational, just how biology works sometimes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 06:26 PM |
| 1 | What is your experience with women who earn significantly more than their partners/husbands?I've never been in a relationship with a woman who made more than me. From what I have seen as a dude in my early 30s with women I have known the last 5 years through work and social circles is that most of the women dating lower earning guys seem to be either annoyed or not thrilled with it. Maybe just my subjective experience, but the women in this scenario seem to not value their partners as much as women with higher earners. When I was in medical school, many of the women had boyfriends or h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Does this subreddit actually help anyone? To me, its the question of what is the point of having knowledge if it never goes to any use that leads to change? Maybe this subreddit makes some positive difference. I see all the issues affect men on a macro social level and wonder what the hell can be done. The media, academia, and Hollywood are so progressive and pro-feminist that mens issues as a whole are almost completely ignored- or if they are covered its in some frame of how these issues are negatively affecting women. I don't know … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 03:46 PM |
| 22 | Does organised prostitution indeed prove that sexual intercourse is more important for gynophilic men than for androphilic women?I think that men's testosterone compared to women shows that the average male will have higher sex drive than the average woman. The bell curves overlap with many women having higher drives in men for a variety of reasons. Look at the studies where an attractive male or woman would walk around a college campus and ask one of 3 things about if the person of the opposite sex would sleep with them, call them, or go on a date. They found that when the woman asked the question, she got the highest nu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 03:41 PM |
| – | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.I work with women in STEM. I think many men feel, but won't say, that many of them are a pain in the ass to deal with. Women in STEM compared to men are much more likely to view findings that they feel are 'harmful' should be supressed and that 'equity' matters more than 'capability'. Look at the numerous things written about how academia has gone so far left since women have joined in large numbers. It was also never political like it is now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 03:36 PM |
| – | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.It means not undermining everything a man does, especially if the guy is far more successful and accomplished than she is and has earned the credibility. 80% of women marry men that make more than them, and so many of these women want to security and lifestyle that comes with this mans income, but feel her judgement should always take at least equal presidence to his despite him demonstrating his ability to be more successful. This is what men mean. Women very often want more successful men but … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 03:32 PM |
| 10 | Many women want to be loved, but they don't want to love.Do i have a girl’s or woman’s vagina I don't disagree with your criticism of TRP in that it too often just wants to pain all or nothing narratives without getting into the nuance. I think what these men are saying is that MOST or MANY women do the behaviors they describe. They are describing them as either very common or more likely than not as a way to try and make sense of what is happening. The problem with the logic of those against TRP is they just attack the people and rigid ideaology with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/23 03:28 PM |
| – | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleThat would make the fuckboys move on! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 01:26 AM |
| – | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleA simpler option would be don't sleep with a guy on the first date. The second date as well. No guy wanting just sex is going on 3 dates with a woman if he hasn't got laid yet. If he goes that long, he probably has real interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:53 AM |
| 1 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleEven if you aren't a chisled god, just getting in better shape generally helps. Helps with mood and confidence. Most guys don't have flat stomachs outside of their 20s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:52 AM |
| – | It is very unlikely that couples today will last deep into their 70s and 80sThat is different from modern no fault divorce, but people also weren't filing for divorce anywhere near as often. It wasn't like they had tons of filings that got rejected. I don't think the 'no fault' was necessarily a major driving factor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:49 AM |
| – | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleThe part I disagree with is that the only 2 options are constant casual sex with hot guys or not using the apps. Women get interest from hotter guys who see them as someone they only want sex with, but also many guys on their level who would be interested in dating them and potentially having a relationship if that goes well. They have both casual sex options and dating options. These women are getting many dating options that are not looking for casual sex with them. The part that they don't be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:48 AM |
| 2 | It is very unlikely that couples today will last deep into their 70s and 80sYour point is absolutely valid because of a time bias favoring millenials. Looking back at baby boomers 30 years ago, they would have had lower divorce rates overall because many of them got divorced after decades together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:42 AM |
| – | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleI think it is about perspective of people realizing how desirable their are on the dating market. Look around and ask the question if people who look as good as you in your position typically have committed relationships with someone who is as desirable as the other person showing interest. Just that question alone can usually eliminate people who just want sex 90% of the time. Its like if a rich guy who is very phyically unattractive is getting interest from a stunningly pretty woman. He can be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:40 AM |
| – | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleKeep trying and something will happen. Be the best you can and good things will come in time with effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Men don’t actually like “good” womenI disagree completely. My ex only slept with 2 men before me and was very traditional in almost every sense. She wanted to be a stay at home mom with kids. I valued her so much and wanted to make it work with her. I practically tried to go to the end of the earth to make it work with her. It was very sexy to a have a woman who wasn't a modern feminist who wanted to have a family and didn't resent men in the process. Having someone wanting to take a role that made the most sense with what I was t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:28 AM |
| 1 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleIts not that women are stupid, it is that they lack self-awareness. I have been called handsome more than once and I've been in situations on dating apps where I am messaging a woman I didn't find particularly attractive and she wants to come over and have sex that night. The chats before then were flirty and sexual and lead to it. Each time I did that I was usually happy to sleep with her again, but they want more. They want to go to there birthday dinner and take them out on actual dates. I ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:18 AM |
| 1 | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleThe waiting of sex til committement worked because it self-selected to levels. Without hookup culture, a guy who is a 10 would never be spending any time going after a woman who is a 3-5 other than maybe as the bar is closing where he is trying to get lucky for the night. Now these top guys will message and see these women because the guys know it can lead to getting laid easily. Women know that the modern dating environment has devalued sex so much that men can get it easily and are not particu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:06 AM |
| – | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopled with social media and online dating. Or if women would have more self-awareness. The chances that a guy who is like a 9 wanting to have meaningful connection with a woman who is below average attractiveness is about 0. I've seen my dating apps and other guys who get lots of matches from women who are bottom 20% trying to get them to take them on a date hoping that he likes and wants to date her. Sometimes these women will sleep with the guy if he explicitely asks, but I don't think that is the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 12:01 AM |
| – | I’m convinced online dating doesn’t work for the majority of peopleI would argue this is not helping women at all. I am in my 30s and the single women my age from my social circles are struggling horribly. Many have been in hookup culture in their 20s and find the difficult lesson that their hookup options from their 20s are way higher than their dating/relationship options in their 30s. I've met a decent number of women in their 30s who are very unhappy with dating because they are not attracted to the men that want to have relationships with them because bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:57 PM |
| 5 | It is very unlikely that couples today will last deep into their 70s and 80sMost of the 80 year old married people I have ever met seem very happy. Maybe they make self depreciating jokes about themselves or each other, but there is love an happiness. I rarely sensed that they didn't deeply care or value the other person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:50 PM |
| – | It is very unlikely that couples today will last deep into their 70s and 80sThe paradox of choice would apply here. I think couples who got married 50+ years ago had the social stigma of divorce and as a result they often did not view divorce as a valid option except for extreme circumstances. Feeling like they didn't have divorce as a viable option, would psychologically cause these people to be happier in marriage because they had no other option to compare it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:48 PM |
| – | It is very unlikely that couples today will last deep into their 70s and 80sI think it also is that millenials marrying are often doing so in a better position in life than many people in previous generations. 2 college education people getting married (college educated people are more likely to be married) will have better income thus more stability than a lower income couple decades ago. The millenials also get married later meaning they have more self-awareness thus are more capable of dealing with marital issues that could have otherwise led to eventual divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:45 PM |
| – | It is very unlikely that couples today will last deep into their 70s and 80sI think what might prove to happen that would go against your prediction is that the number of marriages today is in steep decline and maybe a high percentage of these people getting married are more in a position and mentality to make it work than in previous generations. In previous generations you had almost everyone getting married because that is what people were supposed to do. Many people who didn't want to get married and were not suited for marriage got married because of pressure from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Contrary to what reddit says , I think it's mainly women who want families and kids, men primarily want sex above allMany men want families. I do and so do most men. Sex is something that is like eating candy. Eventually it is just another bag of skittles and isn't going to be life changing. After a guy has sex with enough women, each new one may be fun in the sense of having variety, but it isn't generally fulfilling. Its chasing a nother dopamine hit. In relationships having sex is good for your mind and health, and connecting to a partner, but I don't think many confident men would marry a woman just for se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:12 PM |
| 2 | The worst quality for a good man to have is EmpathyI would disagree with how you define empathy, but I think your arguments falls apart is when you have to take the perspective of having no empathy with women and seeing where that will get you. First, having empathy is the ability to understand the feelings of others and see it from their perspective. You can have empathy and also realize that dating a specific person may not work for simple compatibility reasons. Deciding that someone wants more of you than you feel the relationship is worth, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Cold approach is one of the worst methods of getting women.I am saying that the skill of being able to cold approach women is a skill that is related to general social communication skills. These communication skills of talking and interacting with other people will help in pretty much any social context. I am talking about being able to comfortably have a conversation with someone you don't know. These skills help with school, work, friendship, etc. They can be applied in so many contexts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 10:52 PM |
| 9 | There is a active push to limit the scope of socially acceptable venues to approach a womanThis is more black pill bullshit All it involves is talking to a woman and seeing if she is interested in a conversation. Her words, tone, and body language will make it clear if she wants to talk or not. If she doesn't want to talk, you politely make some reason to leave, or just leave, and tell her to have a good day. There is no movement. Many women wish men would approach them. Even better is that in person many women get to see aspects of men outside of looks that online dating completely i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 08:38 PM |
| – | Cold approach is one of the worst methods of getting women.Meeting women in social circles is easier than cold approach, I agree. Many guys in thier teens and 20s do not have large social circles that give them many opportunities to meet women. These are the guys that would be well off learning to cold approach women. The learning to approach women would help them increase their social skills generally that would then help them get a social network as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 08:30 PM |
| 6 | Cold approach is one of the worst methods of getting women.You don't beg for attention. Just make a comment and have a conversation if she wants it. Thats it. If you can sense bad energy or she isn't interested, tell her to 'have a good day' and politely leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 08:06 AM |
| – | Cold approach is one of the worst methods of getting women.I couldn't not disagree more for so many reasons. I will preface this by saying that the women you meet on tinder or hinger, or bumble are generally not very impressive. Even unattractive women on dating apps gets lots of likes and if these women were will to pursue men on their own level they would have met a man and been off the apps. This means that the desirable and reasonable women are getting removed from apps and the less desirable and unreasonable ones come to hold the majority. The issu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 08:04 AM |
| – | Men want what they would never allow to womenIts mostly gained weight and never does anything to lose it. If 2 years after giving birth the woman still hasn't lost any of the weight, usually having gained much more, its not about the weight being pregnancy related. Even better is when women get out of relationships or marriages how they often manage to lose a large amount of weight in only a few months. She can lose that weight to attract a new partner but cannot put in the effort to lose it and keep a current partner attracted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 07:51 AM |
| – | Men want what they would never allow to womenThey want a guy who makes them FEEL good. It has nothing to do with how likely this guy is to give them a relationship or how authentic he is. The thought of being with a certain guy excites them and she will often throw it all at him because of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 07:47 AM |
| 1 | Men want what they would never allow to womenIts that these women refuse to date men on their level and feel entitled to someone better than herself. They think it only takes one man on this level to give her the partner she always wanted and keeps hoping that the next guy is the one. Over time she finds out that these men will use her to get off with and not ever have any intention of taking it beyond that. I've had women on these apps message me and want sex that night. Starts with flirty conversations and they want some excitement. Afte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 07:45 AM |
| 1 | Men want what they would never allow to womenMost men hate that women have options (meaning options to hook up with and far fewer that will commit to them meaningfully) and pursue men who are obviously way better than them- and then get to hear these women bash all men as being trash and so on. It should be clear to any sensible person when a woman who is a 4-5 is communicating with a guy who is a 9 that the guy is nearly 99% likely to only view her as a short term option he gets to sleep with. He might go out with her once because he thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 07:39 AM |
| 4 | Men want what they would never allow to womenYour perception is wrong because it ignores reality completely. You can find some unreasonable men out there who want women way better looking than them, while these men don't have anything to offset that difference in physical attraction- but to say it is anywhere near the delusional standards of women wanting top 2% or less men when they themselves are nowwhere near that threshold, is laughable. As a dude in my 30s I didn't even believe half of TRP stuff until I saw it for myself. Of the singl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 07:34 AM |
| 1 | What are the most common reasons women get divorced?I'm on a crack binge and that is the best thing that I could come up with. I'm seriously losing my mind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 03:54 AM |
| – | What are the most common reasons women get divorced?Women file because they are not happy and thought they deserved better than what they would get. I thought this was a myth until I got to my 30s to witness so many of the single women in my social groups who have unimaginable expectations for the men they want to have relationships and ultimately marry. These women want men better looking than them, better jobs than them, in better shape than them. I have also seen too many women who are upset that the top 5% of men don't want them and only see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 01:41 AM |
| 4 | What are the most common reasons women get divorced?I strongly question the statistic showing men being more unfaithful when women are more likely to have orbitors and guys that may not be physical but absolutely cross the line. I think it is that these women simply don't cite this as cheating because the instances in my own life I've seen women behave inappropriately there are so many rationalisations how it wasn't cheating and so on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 01:37 AM |
| 2 | Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truthAs a woman you see it differently than men thus could pick up on lessons at far younger age. For men it takes trial and error to see that the messages we have been fed are a load of shit. I was taught that being nice to women was the way to go, with the implication that being agreeable and easygoing were also positives. It got me too many women who would take advantage of that. I became more assertive and quite putting up with women's shit and they then suddenly stopped acting like children or I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 12:50 AM |
| – | Why “open communication” is often code for “adhering to a woman’s terms” in a relationship…Men are more logical. We want to know the issue so we can think of a solution to the problem. This is the logic that makes guys crazy. Its not enough to do what a woman wants but you have to do it for the right reasons and be insincerely sensitive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 12:41 AM |
| 1 | The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make itI agree that applying anything universally is almost certiainly going to be wrong because few things are universal. I think it is better to put what you say into context like 'most single women over 30___'. It communicates general trends and information that can be acted upon while also showing that its not something that can be accepted as fact 100% of the time. I agree that people who say all for things just want some simple narrative and not actually get in the complexities of things | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/23 12:12 AM |
| 1 | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?I have got women 5-10 years younger than me that are attractive. done this for years now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:14 PM |
| 1 | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?I say this is the average experience of women because these are the things I hear consistently with women in my social circles. The 30+ women who 'cant find a man' and complain about the dating world are the same women who want someone better looking, makes more money, less overweight than her, and less psychological problems than her. I have heard these and similar sentiments dozens of times by women I know in my life since I turned 30. I never even believed half the shit TRP said until I kept … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:13 PM |
| – | The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make itI think AWALT means 'most' as opposed to 'all'. I get that all is in the acronym, but I don't think that most guys worth having a conversation with would think that literally every woman is like any specific description. Even 99% of women having a trait is not every last one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 09:00 PM |
| 1 | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?Men and woman aging are different because the things men value in women decline with age while many of the things women value in men increase with age. Also mens fertility doesn't fall off a cliff and stop completely around 40. I am still in good shape over 30 as I have been my whole life. I can run a 6.5 minute mile and bench 200 pounds easily. got a couple more wrinkles than 20 but my career has skyrocketed and dating 25 year olds is cake. My ability to date women 10 years younger than me isn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 08:58 PM |
| 1 | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?I will always be able to find a decent woman regardless. It is more of a comentary on the issue of hypergamy and how it is having negative effects on so many critical societal level issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 08:53 PM |
| – | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?Its the entitled attitudes that frustrate men. Its constantly seeing women who are not even average thinking they deserve someone elite. This entitlement is so prevalent that it is ruining dating culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 06:19 AM |
| 3 | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?I am a BMI of 22 and I have decent strength so those guys aren't me. Of the single women I know over 30, I have heard several of them talking about what they want in a partner and no matter how overweight or not pretty the woman is, she tends to want men who are handsome and usually tall. These women DONT WANT the same overweight men and this is why they are single. It is the entitlement of wanting someone better than herself that keeps women single. Cant be a 4 wanting a 9 and expect good resul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 06:18 AM |
| 1 | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?People who don't accept reality can feel and think what they want, but reality will decide for them. They cannot just manifest someone to want them if he doesn't. The part that gets me is how there is so little self-awareness of accountability to accept that their standards are often entitled by wanting someone better than themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 06:15 AM |
| – | The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make itVery few people are so cognitively rigid to think that all women are one thing or another. There are good women out there, though I don't think they are close to the majority | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 02:47 AM |
| – | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomenOver30/s/EcfyyTrfG8 I think many of these women are the ones who are unmarried because they have way higher expectations than themselves. It is a 4 wanting a 9 type of thing. I have rarely in my life met a single woman over 30 worth dating who either hadn't recently got out of a long term relationship. The reasonable decent women already found partners and husbands because they are reasonable and decent. What that leaves is women with emotional issues who cant do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 02:42 AM |
| – | There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions?That the advice they give and strategies they use explain why so many women over 30 are single. Many of the posts show that these women have high physical standards and want someone hot. The average woman in America is a size 16. 4 out 10 women are so overweight to the point of obesity, and 2/3 are overweight. As an dude in my early 30s I was shocked how many of the women on Hinge and Tinder my own age are so fat. Like finding a non-hideous non-whale over 30 was nearly impossible. Read the forum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/23 02:38 AM |
| – | The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make itI think that TRP uses evolutionary psychology and takes data and tries to provide explanations for why we see what we do in society. While these explanations often have a lot of truth built in, they do not describe EVERY woman accurately. There are women who are loyal, loving, caring, and value men. I think the biggest issue is that TRP does not do more to attempt to show men how to find these quality women and distinguish them from the type of toxic woman men should avoid. The women you can get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 10:15 PM |
| – | The biggest misunderstanding about TRP comes from the fact that very low percentage of men who try it actually make itI think you only look at the TRP in terms of how men see it for themselves as individuals. I think TRP should be seperated into 2 areas: 1 being how it affects men in their individual lives, and 2 how society looks at men on a macro level. The first area of men in their personal lives is where individual men can make choices that affect themselves and their life. Areas like career, personal development, physical development, learning social skills reading books, social activities, etc., can mean… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 10:09 PM |
| 3 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.If you are trying to have a meaningul relationship with a woman, like a relationship and someone you consider spending your life with, there is a lot more to it than with some woman you see casually where sex is the only real glue keeping it together. Guys who are so extremely hypermasculine that they NEVER show weakness will probably have a woman who isn't emotionally open to you because they don't feel comfortable emotionally connecting. Feeling like you as a man cannot be even minimally vulne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 09:52 PM |
| 2 | The recent trend of women using "therapeutic language" to insult and stigmatize menI don't agree in the sense that I don't think it is so much a 'new' thing as it is just a rewording of things women used to say, but phrasing it differently. The 'therapy speak' seems to me more like a way of phrasing the conversation to be more of a 'I am an enlightened self-aware person with healthy boundaries' as opposed to the reality that what they are saying is actually 'I have a lot of emotional baggage and accepting it for what it is would be too hurtful to accept and own it". Those thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 09:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.At some point it isn't completely black or white. A real relationship is seeing someone for who they are and all these notions of never being this or that, kind of become impossible because you spend enough time around the person that any act you put on will fall through because nobody can stay in character forever. If a guy is crying all the time for things that are not serious then yes that is something that will turn her off. Crying over a close friend might actually make her see you as an em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 09:00 PM |
| 3 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.At some point it isn't completely black or white. A real relationship is seeing someone for who they are and all these notions of never being this or that, kind of become impossible because you spend enough time around the person that any act you put on will fall through because nobody can stay in character forever. If a guy is crying all the time for things that are not serious then yes that is something that will turn her off. Crying over a close friend might actually make her see you as an em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 08:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.It isn't easy but they can find better women than someone who has no emotional maturity as a human. Get off the black pill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 08:56 PM |
| 2 | What advice would you give your sons to help them have stable healthy families in the West?I would strongly hope they have IQ scores better than 110.... I would teach them to be motivated individuals with a desire for truth and knowledge. I would teach them to see mindless pleasures like instagram and video games as a waste of time and energy. I would teach them to have character and treat others with respect. I would teach them to have self-confidence, but with a growth mindset of understanding strengths and improving flaws. I would teach them to avoid dating woke feminist women. Dat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 06:12 AM |
| 4 | Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselvesI disagree that men should not make it clear that the bad examples cited of mens behavior only applies to some small fraction of men. The reason I think this is because of how feminism sets the tone of almost every discussion as men being predators or just goddamn awful generally and should be suspected of being horrible at baseline. They will present some example of evidence and THAT defines all men. By pointing out that these men who do these bad things are usually like 5% or less of men, just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 06:08 AM |
| – | Politics defines modern dating.SO much of the time when anyone says conservative they are automatically portrayed as 'far right'. Every election or report describes anyone a inch right of center as 'far right'. Most conservatives are not far right. The world in nuanced and most people don't just swallow everything from any perspective. I wouldn't even say 10% of the conservatives I have met meet political science criteria for far right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 06:00 AM |
| -2 | Q4A: Are women more responsible for divorces?Or maybe men don't want to see their kids less than half as often while paying to maintain his household and most of hers through alimony. 80% of women marry men who make more than them meaning that financially it will hurt him the most in allimony. Look how 98% of alimony goes from men to women. Men know that courts don't give men a fair shake when it comes to custody and alimony. So most men decide to not put their children through the trauma of divorce that would result in them seeing the kid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 04:24 AM |
| -1 | Q4A: Are women more responsible for divorces?That is called entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4A: Are women more responsible for divorces?My theory is women having far higher levels of entitlement as well as women generally having a lower capacity for discomfort than men. Look at most people working 80+ hours in society and you will see that most are men. Look at most people working dangerous jobs (men over 90% of workplace deaths), or physically demanding jobs like construction, or jobs in the middle of nowhere, or high stress jobs- all of these are mostly done by men. Notice how feminists never say a single word about the massiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Question: if only around 17% of US males make at least 100k, are the remaining 83% percent doomed ?Most of the guys will be fine just like most people now are fine not making 100k. More money will improve the life of anyone who isn't wealthy, but the idea that people cant get by with less than 100k is overstated. The per capita GDP in America is 70k. That is skewed because of some very rich billionaires, but shows that most people are making it fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 04:01 AM |
| 14 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.Too many post like yours (and the OP) are wack. There is a difference between healthy emotion and being weak. Crying over the death of a friend makes you a normal person. Crying over spilling a coffee makes you ridiculous. To equate all 'crying' with weakness is way off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 03:58 AM |
| 25 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.If a woman breaks up with you for crying after a friend dies, then she did you a favor because she isn't supportive has no emotional maturity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 03:56 AM |
| 74 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.Seriously. If a woman is so undeveloped as to not be attracted to a man for crying over the death of a close friend, I would question why any sane man would want this woman as a girlfriend in the first place. I don't think any reasonable person can say a man is wrong for crying in that situation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 03:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept.If a man shows legitimate emotion for a situtation that warrants it (your friend dying absolutely meets this criteria), then a woman should be okay with that. I will note a difference in if men are just hyperemotional and cry about stupid things like being upset that the restaurant you want to eat at closed and you have to find a new place. If a woman cannot accept a man crying because of something like a friend dying, it shows that this is not a woman who is relationship material. If she is so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/23 03:52 AM |
| 17 | Thoughts on the concept of the 'Better guys" dating app? What does the design say about women's expectations in online dating?The idea of the app is stupid beyond words. No self-respecting single man is going to waste his time using it. It will be swingers almost certainly. I agree with your assessment that it is the same anti-male framing that is so typical in the gynocentric culture we live. 'All men are threats and should be viewed with the most suspicion and negativity as possible until he can reach some high threshold at which point he is tolerated'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Politics defines modern dating.And many minority groups feel the same way about only wanting kids with a partner of the same ethnic group. Who cares. Wasn't even the point of the post. The point was talking about the issues of dating as a conservative in areas where most women are way further to the left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Politics defines modern dating.Lets not be dramatic and fear mongering. We both know that there were no skinhead vibes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 02:02 AM |
| 2 | Politics defines modern dating.Do you know how to read? Not one part of it was race baiting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 02:01 AM |
| – | Politics defines modern dating.I have had the same issue. Women want a masculine man who physically is the masculine ideal, while wanting a dude who is a flaming progressive. I have had discussions with this about some of these women trying to point out the hypocrasy of wanting a guy like me who is tall, works out, is motivated for success- but want me to have the left leaning politically views of men who usally are not successful. It is the liberal cult and illogical bullshit that is feminism. feminists want the benefits of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 02:00 AM |
| 14 | Women Choosing Better MenThe OP is so vague and imprecise that even knowing what she means is impossible. If she told the issues she faced it would be easier to list the red flags for them. Without that it is shooting in the dark | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them.I have said the same thing. Its women who have body counts stacked to the moon who inevitably meet a few bad men out there and instead of taking responsibility for getting involved with so many men they didn't know or have any vetting, they then will assume that ALL men are evil because a single man did her wrong.. They then go back to their dating past and retrospectively find ways all their exes were abusive towards them with explanations that don't even make sense. I have never abused a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them.The OP is the same garbage we see in feminist books an media all the time- most men are predators and the rest of the men should be viewed with extreme suspicion regardless of if there is any allegations or evidence of the behavior. Sorry to break it to you but the vast majority of men are not abusers and have never abused anyone. I think it is 5% of men who are pieces of shit and instead of feminists actually admitting this truth they act like 'most' men are despicable it is a way for feminists… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:50 AM |
| 1 | The argument of 'Men having No Standards'.Its that women's standards are way better than what she brings to the table. To have the same standards as what you provide is knowing your worth. To have standards of wanting someone better than yourself is to be entitled. Men feel that most women have very entitled standards by the fact that most of the women matching up with men on apps are below them in looks and other measures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 02:08 AM |
| 1 | The argument of 'Men having No Standards'.“I would never date a fat woman Because women use old pictures that look nothing like themselves. I have been on several dates with women whose pictures they posted were at least 75 pounds less than the version of herself that showed up on the data. That is basically catfishing. Had she seen that I don't want that type of person, I doubt these women would have gone through with the deception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 02:04 AM |
| 1 | The argument of 'Men having No Standards'.I think your perception is probably about dead on. I and many men have slept with women we would never date or bring around anyone we know. I have done it a few times messaging women on apps and she just says explicitely that she wants to come over and have sex. Its always someone who is clearly way lower on the looks department. But yeah, its only because sex was on the plate and available. Why I don't have a ton of sympathy for women who sleep with men on the first night and are upset he didn'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 02:00 AM |
| – | There’s a hypocrisy around spotting red flagsSo many of the women are on the apps because they want someone better than themselves. These guys have better options and would only be interested in someone way below him if he could sleep with her and keep it a secret. I know too many men in your situation. Guys in shape and okay looking get interest from women way overweight who make half as much as they do. The apps are a waste of their time while meeting women in person goes better becauae aspects outside of looks become much more important… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:41 AM |
| 1 | What if most men just can't make a decent profile on dating apps?I think men would benefit from better pictures and profiles, but it only will go so far and won't make a short of ugly person that much more attractive. I had a friend on these apps years ago who was about the whole package. Made 250k a year, highly educated, smart, charismatic, well respected, strong history of monogamy, good person, in shape, and facially attractive. The only downside I could see was his height being 5'10. Also his profile looked great with decent photos. The women he matched … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:34 AM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI think it is coping. One way people feel better about things not going well is to tell themselves that they actually do like it and it is exactly what they want. The poly people I have known are emotionally disturbed (straight men/women, gay, lesbians). Rather than admit they have emotional issues and couldn't make a healthy monogamous relationship work, they would rather engage in chaos and rationalize that there is some better outcome living in chaos than having a functional relationship. I r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:27 AM |
| 2 | N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI feel the same. I can't remember the last time I met a male or female poly person who I didn't walk away questioning what the hell was wrong with the person. I think it is either unstable people that are attracted to the lifestyle, or the lifestyle turning people crazy due to the drama, chaos, uncertainty, and trying to maintain numerous relationships at once. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:17 AM |
| – | There’s a hypocrisy around spotting red flagsThat is the idea of 'hoeflation' or having to do more to get women worse than what men got historically. As a dude over 30, I would agree that the expectations of women are often delusional. I see women in my social circles who are over 30 and they legitimately cannot understand why they cannot find a man when they have checklists that would eliminate 98% of men, and especially would eliminate men anywhere near their level. They want someone way better than them but then hope that this great guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:15 AM |
| – | There’s a hypocrisy around spotting red flagsIt is considered cool to have mental health issues. Anxiety is practically a trend | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:11 AM |
| – | There’s a hypocrisy around spotting red flagsThats the point I agree with that isn't stressed more- people who continually make bad choices. If someone's spouse or long term partner becomes a different uncaring person, I find it meaningfully different because that was not something that usually can be foreseen. It is the forseen stuff that I lack sympathy for. Its a woman letting a guy know she will sleep with him on the first date and her feeling used and manipulated when he isn't interested and seeing her again having just wanted sex tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:10 AM |
| – | There’s a hypocrisy around spotting red flagsBecause most of the 'red flags' women ignore are so obvious. Sorry but if a woman who isn't that pretty and is way overweight and she meets a much better looking person on a tinder who is into her and showing interest and she then proceeds to meet up and sleep with him only to find in the next few days that he isn't into her or just wants sex- she is a product of her own stupidity. That example situation is far too common. The guy showed some initial interest in her and she gave him what she wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: As a society there's almost nothing we can do to help lonely menI agree with the notion that attraction cannot be negociated. The rest of the article I do not agree with. I think that the issues of the manosphere should be seperated into 2 distict parts. You have the general societal macro issues that entail the issues men collectively face (longer prison sentences, falling behind in education, more homeless, mysandry widely more acceptable than mysogeny, media and academic bias against men, courts bias against men, etc.), and the micro issues that have to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date.I will start by saying I think lots of sexual partners is damaging for both men and women, but for very different reasons. Women and men do not get each other because we live such different lives. Men will never understand the reality women have in always having the option of having sex if they want it, even with guys way more desirable than them who otherwise would never date them. Men also cannot understand how so many women have such unrealistic expectations of their (women's) own dating valu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/23 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Mario Batali was found not guilty and wants to resume his career. He’s getting a lot of backlash. How do you feel about men being found not guilty from sex allegations and still not being allowed to move on from it?okay bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/23 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Cold approaching doesn’t workI happen to think you are unfortunately right about many people being black pilled on here. I think the black pill is mostly complete apathy and complaining that things are terrible and there is nothing we can do about it. It actually drives me nuts hearing things to the effect of either you are born as Chad or there is no dating hope for you. I don't mind MGTOW who mostly think that there are better uses of your time than dating. MGTOW is taking a functional approach and urging men to advance t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 04:34 AM |
| 1 | Mario Batali was found not guilty and wants to resume his career. He’s getting a lot of backlash. How do you feel about men being found not guilty from sex allegations and still not being allowed to move on from it?To defend yourself in court requires paying a lawyer a substantial amount of money, or you get a public defender who is often unexperienced and has too many cases to be able to meaninfully devote enough to you to mount a quality defense. And if you do get 'not guilty' charge you then get set free and all the money you paid to your lawyer is not reinbursed to you at all, nor is the time, energy and lost income spent on the case and in court. And you have to unanimously convince a jury picked by b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Why the whole Mensrights, Red pill, and the general "Manosphere" was/is necessary.I think you are onto the issue that is the problem of modern society has completely different differences in how we view and deal with womens issues and how we deal with mens issues. I look at the fact the institutions of society like social media, Hollywood, news media, academia- all will show feminist talking points while at the same time mens concerns are either completely ignored or not addressed. Imagine a major studio movie production that male version of the Barbie Movie coming out this y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 04:03 AM |
| 1 | Should we feel sorry for guys who are forced to have relationships in order to get sex?Sex isn't owed to anyone. Women want what they want for sex and if she wants a relationship to have it, the guy has the freedom to decide if he wants to do that or not. The guy isn't forced to do anything. No, I do not feel bad for a guy who willfully chooses to be with a woman because he wasn't forced in any way to do that. If you aren't the relationship type, then find women who are like that as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:30 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Using a man to be a penpal/surrogate is just as bad as using a woman for sexThe point is that both people should take action to ensure they are not being 'used'. Men should not be messaging and talking to a woman forever without trying to meet in person, be it a date or even for a coffee. Women should demand some type of commitment from a guy before sleeping with him. The problem is that people don't do these things. Men just message a woman for so long without either trying to meet up or stop messaging her if she does not want to do that. This will quickly eliminate th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:27 AM |
| 5 | Mario Batali was found not guilty and wants to resume his career. He’s getting a lot of backlash. How do you feel about men being found not guilty from sex allegations and still not being allowed to move on from it?That is the point: you cannot prove a negative. To prove a negative requires some extraordinary evidence like having him on tape during the exact moment he was accused, or definitely prove that he was too far away from the person at the time to have committed the acts. In almost all cases, this level to 'prove innocence' is impossible. The fact that he is still judged as guilty in spite of a court with every resource and opportunity to prove as such, shows that he should be removed of the suspic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:22 AM |
| 5 | Mario Batali was found not guilty and wants to resume his career. He’s getting a lot of backlash. How do you feel about men being found not guilty from sex allegations and still not being allowed to move on from it?Why even have a court system if the person is presumed guilty regardless of the court outcome? Any semblance of justice has aspects of something called 'due process'. This is a process for an accused person to make a defense against them and be able to present this evidence on equal footing with a party that is arguing for guilt of this person.This guy did this and won. For the payouts, it isn't as simple as saying he is guilty. People of high enough stature are affected massively by their reput… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:19 AM |
| 4 | Mario Batali was found not guilty and wants to resume his career. He’s getting a lot of backlash. How do you feel about men being found not guilty from sex allegations and still not being allowed to move on from it?It serves their agenda. The easist way to define feminism and its positions is to ask yourself, 'what positive would benefit women on the issue'. The answer you come up with is almost every time what the majority of feminists believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:13 AM |
| 6 | Mario Batali was found not guilty and wants to resume his career. He’s getting a lot of backlash. How do you feel about men being found not guilty from sex allegations and still not being allowed to move on from it?If a prosecution who has time, resources, money, and can gain so many search warrants to make every attempt on earth to find evidence to prove guilt- and still fails to do so, the person deserves the presumption of innocence in every respect. To actually get 'not guilty' in court is a difficult bar to pass most of the time. in many states you can get 1 or 2 jurors to think you did it and 9 who say not guilty where the state can retry you with a hung jury. The state can retry you over and over ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:12 AM |
| 4 | Mario Batali was found not guilty and wants to resume his career. He’s getting a lot of backlash. How do you feel about men being found not guilty from sex allegations and still not being allowed to move on from it?I think it is appalling that a person can showcase in a neutral setting that they are not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and still face consequences in spite of the fact that in the face of every effort to prove your guilt, the efforts failed to do so. Its complete bullshit and afront to the idea of justice or fairness. There is not such thing as justice if a person is considered guilty if found guilty but is still judged as guilty even if found innocent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:09 AM |
| 3 | Would you date the opposite gender versiomof yourself?I respect the self-awareness! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:05 AM |
| 1 | Cold approaching doesn’t workThis notion that approaching women is impossible is possibly the biggest misconception in the RP community. I have met most of my girlfriends in person. I also think that the selection of women off dating apps are better than the women on them. My question to all the guys who think that cold approaching is impossible is what would be the option more likely to lead to success: either continuing to go on the apps that don't work for you, or going out and meeting women in the real world? To me the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 03:03 AM |
| 2 | On dating apps over the past 5-8 years, why do you see the same exact women on them? Why are they perpetually single?Because they are searching for Mr. Perfect and think that the next swipe will be him and he is looking exactly for her. The people that are on dating apps for years without relationships either cannot handle relationships, don't want relationships, don't want the options they have (thus want better ones), or are always looking for something better. The women I have known on there for years are mostly in the 'hoping for someone amazing' group. After a woman has been with so many people and hooked… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 02:56 AM |
| – | Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship.That is the credibility that these activists try to gain by having titles like "PhD" after their name like they are experts. Most of these people are activists trying to change the world as they see fit truth being whatever moves their agenda forward. The best part is that the scientific journals for social science are made up of professors in the same fields who almost have uniform beliefs where in their echo chamber they can all reinforce the same bullshit and say anyone who questions them is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 12:48 PM |
| – | The wall does exist but there are misconceptionsI like your Hill analogy because it puts it more accurate as a smooth decline. As a dude in my 30s I will say that the remaining single women I have known for some time that are my age, are generally really struggling with dating in their 30s. Most want a husband and kids and are amazed how bad their dating options are at 31-34 compared to 25-27. Many of these women I know went from dating hot dudes their own age at 25-27 to now at 31-33 are most only being asked on dates by men 37-45 who often … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 07:29 AM |
| 1 | The wall does exist but there are misconceptionsNot in the sense that the put together guy at 30 can attract a decent looking 23 year old who is on average going to be far prettier than 90% of 30 year olds. A guy who has options at 30 would be shocked how easy it is to date women 5-10 years younger. If the guy who comes into his own marries the first woman his age he can get with then sure, she might be his best. Men who explore their options will find out that he can do better than most 30 year old women his age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 07:23 AM |
| 1 | The wall does exist but there are misconceptionsHaving kids past 40 is very difficult and thats assuming that the woman is healthy and hasn't gained too much excess weight (the estrogen produced by fat can inhibit ovulation cycles). Some women have genetic advantages for longer, but those are the exception and not the rule. Also the chances of haviing a major birth defect or miscarriage rise far greater for women over 35 than men to the same age. I believe the relative risk of a 40 year old pregnancy is higher than if the man is over 60. This… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 07:20 AM |
| 1 | The wall does exist but there are misconceptionsI don't really take it to mean that much of what Gen Z claims to want when the oldest of the generation is maybe 26 or so? I am a millenial and i saw many women my age say they didn't want kids only to hit their late 20s-early 30s and suddenly its not wanting to party and hookup and find a reliable husband and have kids. This page from the Ratonal Male describes what I saw almost to a T. The biological drive to have kids hits most women at some point and they understand that fertility is declini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 07:15 AM |
| 1 | The wall does exist but there are misconceptionsI think it is as much weight gain and decline is beauty that are both at play. Also for most women it isn't just a day she hits 'the wall' and suddenly goes from hot to ugly. Most women usually start declining by around 27 because after 23, women lose much of their brown adipose tissue and have major declines in metabolism. At this point a woman much either exercise more and lower her calorie intake or she is likely to start gaining weight that will often adds up substantially within a few years… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/23 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship.You are absolutely correct. You see this as well when some of these studies try using multi factorial ANOVA type models to find some complex theory to explain data results. I think the real issue is that the alpha level (percent chance that the statistical significant results are due to chance and not actual phenomena) of any experiment when doing what is called a T test is when they run all these ANOVA associated stats with main effects and secondary effects, they ensure that they will find sta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship.The problem is so much of the literature is awful that it makes finding the truth a challenge. So many times I have read an article in the media or on Scientific America only to then actually read the whole paper and find that the conclusions have questionable methodology or were somewhat misrepresented by the media. It is even to the point that many of these 'studies' create a basis where other studies on the matter are published and thus create the 'literature' that is then cited as clear evid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship.100% straight up fiction. The definition of 'reality' is very broad. Yes, the lab I was in did have data based on questionaires given to undergraduate students. The methodology, sample population, logical consistency, data mining, and conclusions established- all raise serious questions about the conclusion being worth the paper it is printed on, but I guess in the loosest terms you could say it is in reality. With these degrees of obvious issues, is it safe to say that any of these conclusions … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Porn is mostly positive for menI would say that. People like things that give dopamine hits. Look how social media companies design their products to maximize dopamine hits so users continue to use them. Porn and sleeping with new people will both give that same dopamine hit. It really is the same reason some people abuse drugs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 08:59 PM |
| – | Men experience more loneliness because they don’t form any meaningful relationships in their life.So much to unpack there. I think that the fact that most men get married at some point in their lives shows that they don't view women as a "replaceable NPC body devoid of thought and personality". These men actually love these women and that is why they want to marry them. The fact that 80% of marriages in America are where the man makes more money, so financial insentive to marry these women is not there for most men. I think a lot of these men gave up on social interactions because they just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship.I briefly mentioned the 'political correctness' issue, but yeah you are absolutely right that it happens when findings that are not 'to ideological likings' are ignored and not published. I didn't see any blatant outright fraud you were talking about, but I have zero doubt that it regularly happens. You have some paper published on nonsense bullshit that lacks quality evidence or even a logically consistent theoretical framework that is then cited in other dogshit papers and someone this creates… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 06:39 AM |
| – | Porn is mostly positive for menThe idea that something as stimulating and dopamine causing such as porn cannot be addicting, is a strange argument I have never understood. Anything that releases dopamine at high levels is addicting such as meth, cocaine, any stimulent really, sex, alcohol, buying things, video games, even social media. All these activities have capacity from addiction, and have many people addicted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 06:05 AM |
| 1 | It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years.Grew up in US and been here whole life, in my 30s. Its not about being a sex symbol as much as it being about having income and status socially. Doctors work too much and can be pricks, but they are a top of a social hierarchy (hospitals) and most make top 1% money. You think that as bad as hypergamy is, most women would want the lifestyle that income can afford or the prestigue of telling their friends they are married to a doctor? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 04:38 AM |
| 5 | Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship.I would completely agree. They sell it well unfortunately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Porn is mostly positive for menMost porn addicts are generally functional people who can communicate. The idea that no women want to be approached is way overblown. I've met most of my girlfriends that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 03:32 AM |
| – | Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship.That description is dead on. Most of the 'research' is a sham with horrible methods and results that can't hold up to scrutiny. Its an industrial machine to pump out more useless 'research' to get more funding and get tenure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Porn is mostly positive for menI think men still would watch it. Porn is an easy and free dopamine hit that strikes hard. Not many forms of stimulus do that and the ones that do aren't free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 03:29 AM |
| 1 | Being monogamous and wanting children should guarantee every man getting a female partner. Our current dating environment is just an anomaly before population collapse.I think a lot of women come down to not finding the partner they want. My example (if valid) showed that most women still want to have kids and a family. I think too many of these women were lied to for too long with other women, feminism, and society feeding them a picture that they were perfect and deserve someone perfect. they were told they could find someone just as easy after 30, only to find thats now how it works. I am over 30 and I say that because I know too many of these women in my c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 03:27 AM |
| – | It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years.If you think a janitor is getting laid easier than a doctor, I can assure you it isn't the case 99% of the time. Maybe a 22 year old wants the janitor, but after 25 it won't be close. Any person who gets with a successful man knows that her life is drastifally going to change for the better for a lot of reasons. successful men can get beautiful women through matchmakers services if they don't have the social skills to find what they want. There is a reason you rarelly see successful people on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 03:23 AM |
| – | Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship.I wouldn't have believed you had I not seen some of the dirty hidden realities of social science resesarch by being involved in research labs at my university. The shit I saw showed how much of a scam most of the published stuff is. It is all based on getting research grants that help fund university departments and pay for stipends for graduate students. It is this constant pressure to get published and the quality of the work means nothing. On research lab I was in would hand out a packet of p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 01:21 AM |
| 1 | Porn is mostly positive for menI think there is a different aspect of the debate looking at it as 'ethical' or 'positive'. Ethical I would say it is becaues the actors in it thought getting paid the rate they were (usally not bad money relative to the time spent working) was worth doing the job. For that part my question would be who is being exploited to make it unethical? For the 'is it positive question', I think it is much more challenging. For the performers, I think many do not have a clue how much this will follow them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 01:11 AM |
| – | Porn is mostly positive for menI don't agree. Not saying I never watch it, but there is a lot of evidence that porn has negative effects on men. So many men cannot even get an erection or ejaculate because they watch so much porn and have a 'death grip' that the stimulation of an actual vagina isn't going to cut it. Porn makes our human interactions with women to be very stunted and confusion. Porn has been shown to make men look at women as sexual objects. That doesn't even get into how common porn addiction probably is for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Do you think you would exist if your parents had to endure modern dating?Its a scary thought to think of, but probably not. My parents were both very good looking and would have had so many options dating. My mother likely wouldn't have married at the age she did and/or my dad would have been having more attractive women at his feet from apps than he could handle (assuming the technology went with the modern dating even though it obviously wasnt there for the parents of anyone commenting) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 12:58 AM |
| – | Being monogamous and wanting children should guarantee every man getting a female partner. Our current dating environment is just an anomaly before population collapse.It depends what happens doing forward with our society. I think dating apps have made issues so much worse such as hypergamy and people who are endlessly entitled wanting a partner better than himself or herself. I think the gap is getting worse because prior to dating apps and social medial, people generally had a realistic perspective of how attractive people were and how attractive they were. People had to talk in person and it wasn't like online dating where any woman will get tons of dudes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 12:55 AM |
| – | It’s important to party/date/socialize in high school. Those people are more successful than the nerds who studied all 4 years.It depends what these 'nerds' end up doing and if you define success as financial or otherwise. If the nerd ends up going to medical school and being a doctor, he or she will definitely be more successful. If that person who studied learned enough skills to start their own business, they could become successful. From what I have seen, most of the people that studied the hardest in high school ended up going onto better things than the average person. These studiers were generally hard working an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/23 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Women get a lot of credit for being “good” people for no valid reasonThis all seems like an attempt to hold onto anger that feels clear, rather than questioning the structure that created those circumstances bc it avoids all the complexity which such exploration entails. Y It is said that to be a conservative is to have the courage to admit that the we don't have all the answers and own that it is okay that we don't. Ideology shouldn't matter. If laws were bullshit to women I would fight them because we shouldn't live in a society that screws men or women. Its no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 05:40 AM |
| – | Women get a lot of credit for being “good” people for no valid reasonYour argument that 'women dont start wars' is a comment that should embarrass anyone who says it. Because no female monarchs in history were every violent or aggressive (Bloody Mary). Link below about how peaceful female rulers have been (sarcasm). To call women not priveleged when it is illegal for Ukrainian men to leave the country while millions of women have left the country for safety, is beyond absurd, like arguing the world is flat level nonsense. There is 2 levels of issues for men being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 04:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.I think those people that don't see things coming are like most humans in that we live in the here and now and struggle to realize that the here and now is just a temporary thing. The list of once dominant companies who proceeded to lose it within a few years or decades is a pretty extensive list that in retrospect seems to be that the leaders did not thing the world would change at all, or did nothing to prepare for it. Look at professional athletes who very often are broke in a few years. They… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 04:21 AM |
| 1 | Why not many women-only communities?That your 'descrimination' argument is a load of shit. Men put up with woke progressive HR departments ran by women who are complete joke in how they are so anti-male that any reasonable person coudl see that. Men just 'tolerate' it better than women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 02:25 AM |
| – | Why not many women-only communities?The fact that you can look to the statistic of men being overwhelmingly the ones who work 70 plus hours a week is telling in itself. Men are willing to be far more uncomfortable and make more sacrifices for their careers than women. Men may find that working 70 hours a week having their whole life devoted to a singular purpose is worth it, almost no women older than their 20s show this same attitude based on their actions and data. Look at what is happening with the scandanavian countries and ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Women get a lot of credit for being “good” people for no valid reasonFrom the feminists I have known in my life and defended, I would disagree with your assertion that feminists show grace or concern with mens issues. Maybe the most frustrating part of talking to feminists is dealing with an endless number of double standards they apply to men and women for the same things. These are the same feminist social progressives that will on every single issue say for any group or social issue that we need to socially change our society to deal with racial inequalities o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 02:01 AM |
| 1 | Why not many women-only communities?No women just don't want to do these jobs. Look at how many women study engineering at universities. Women graduates outnumber men 3-2 in terms of degrees awared yet men overwhelmingly have higher number of engineering students. Also some of these fields don't require working with men. A female plumber can start her own business and go on jobs solo, or pick jobs that she can do solo if it is that bad to work with men. I find it disingenuous when women make the argument that the extreme gender di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/23 01:52 AM |
| -2 | Why not many women-only communities?Because at the end of the day women can talk about how they don't need men but the fact that most women will never do the fields dominated by men (construction, plumbing, mining, farming, etc.) show that these communities will not work. Many of the these trades have made efforts to recruit women because of labor shortages and they consistently fail because women don't want to do these jobs, or would only be interested at a pricepoint way higher than men are willing to work for. From what I have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on “the wall” and beyondWomen don't usually understand that it isn't just an age thing. It is the fact that women who are single for a substantial amount of time usually have or develope personality characteristics that men usually don't want. Women over 30 (I am over 30 so I've met them) have VERY HIGH standards for men. Even though most of these women have gained a substantial amount of weight since their early 20s and are not even close to how pretty they once were, they often want a man to marry who is either the o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?I do blame these women. First of all, if a woman who is about average is getting interest from a dude who is top 10%, what are the chances that he has a real interest in dating and emotionally connecting with her and not just sleeping with her? I think the answer is very low. I think these women subconsciously know this and will sleep with him trying to get him to like her and continuing to see her with the hope of a major connection that leads to a relationship. It usually doesn't work because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 11:09 PM |
| 1 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?So according to you men have left the dating market due to not being satisfied with it, where as women haven't, suggesting then that they are still somewhat happy with the dating market. You see the issue in this? For many men its more like there is no seller at the market who is willing to sell them apples. Below average men will have a hell of a time finding really anyone on dating apps and many just quite trying because it feels like they have no options. You are not wrong in saying the men w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 11:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.I am just making it clear that I am not one of those guys who complains more than takes actions. Its my biggest frustration with RP community that apathy seems somewhat widespread. It isn't a good thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.I am a medical resident, I get it. I spent so many damn hours and nights in an empty fucking library studying chemistry and biology to get into school and later to get through medical school. I could look around at the entire library and see almost nobody because the rest of the world was getting 8 hours of sleep a night while I was grinding and holding a job at the same time. If everyone had 20% of my determination, things would be different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:40 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.I am not saying the system is fair because we could go on for hours how it isn't, because it isn't. I was saying that more men could do more to improve their personal lives. Look at statistics of video game usage in the US and it is stunning. There are men, I have known a few, who spend more time each week playing video games than they do with work/school combined. Look at how much time some men watch porn or are on social media? Look how many men are smoking weed and drinking too much? That tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:37 PM |
| – | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.I live my life doing what I need to do and hide from nobody. It is okey to point things out and not let it cripple you or even affect you in any major way. I don't know who you think you are talking too because I am not that guy who is butt hurt over some joke of a movie. I still take care of business regardless and so do most men with a backbone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:31 PM |
| 0 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?You are saying that you find it weird that women aren't compromising from the things they measure the value of a man, Men and women can both be wrong about their own value and what they are looking for. I was saying that these women I see in my world want a man who is better than them on all major areas. They want looks, fitness, career, less emotional issues, and tall. They feel entitled to someone way more desirable than them as in they have very high standards and are looking for someone to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?Yeah it becomes a middle ground type of thing. Women gets some sense that he is committed enough to have a relationship and state so publicly to show he isn't just going to sleep with her and run, and he isn't waiting until the end of time for sex. I think that is a reasonable compromise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?Anecdotal evidence can be off because of a small sample. I read a study a few months ago that was sampling women who were 40+ with no kids and never married (I do not have a link or time to find it). Breaking down the responses, it could be interpreted that around 80% of them did not wish to have no kids and not be married. Less than 20% said they did not want marriage or kids and knew this for some time. I think this study showed what most people see in that most women do want kids and marriage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Women get a lot of credit for being “good” people for no valid reasonSome people find it easier just to make a blanket statement because its easy and just supports their narrative. I usually don't waste my time arguing with those people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 09:13 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.times, when I speak with older individuals who care to keep hip with the young kids and look into this type of content, I note a good trend of "well I've done it, something must be wrong with you for you not to be able to do the same". I am just frustrated that my partner and womenfrom my career world in their early 30s are complaining about dating and relationships when most of the issues they face are really almost entirely their fault. It depends on people. I didn't get anywhere because I was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 07:55 AM |
| 0 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?Why? Staying single is always an option. And it's a better option than dating someone you don't want to date. Settling is so much worse than remaining single. Data has shown that most straight women at some point want want to have kids and most of these women would rather not do it as a single mother for numerous reasons. The problem with the 'pill' arguments is most of the people having it are in their 20s. Life in that decade for people is not real in the sense that things will change for them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 07:49 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.The groupthink in universities is astonishing sometimes. We are seeing it right now with how many professors have been saying statements defending Hamas and thier actions of murdering civilians under some guise of 'liberation'. The media is like that to the point where they act like even talking about boys in elementry school falling behind girls test scores, is somehow toxic masculinity. This is talking about children here and somehow this gets dragged in these gender wars to where mainstream m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Women get a lot of credit for being “good” people for no valid reasonYou literally did not give a single example why I was wrong other than just asserting it. I can't even responde to anything else you said because nothing you said actually conveys any clarity what you mean other than braod statements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 07:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.You make a reasonable point and I wasn't trying to dump on my fellow man. I think I have a generalized low opinion on people generally. 40% of Americans are obese and so many spend ungodly amounts of time on social media and video games that I legitimately wonder how anythiing gets done. I think most people in the world are lazy and want as much pleasure while putting in as little work as possible. I don't think most women are much better and only a basic look into the entitlement of women 20-35… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 03:41 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.This content phrasing of men in horribly negative light is one reason why society shows a strong apathy towards mens problems while at the same time shows much more concern and action for those that affect wome I don't know if you are a troll or legitimate, but I will say that the progressive society we live in seems so concerned about any groups issues and how society structurally is disadvantaging these groups, yet when it comes to men have the attitude of 'lifting yourself by your bootstraps'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 03:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.The issues on a macro and minor scale are different. The micro level is about men and their own lives and dating lives that they can make changes to affect. These areas I think men should use self-improvement to help them succesed and I get frustrated when there is such pushback for suggesting it. For the societal issues, I agree. We have to bring attention to mens issues because the media sure as hell won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?I did not say that at all. The guys I know with high body counts are the guys I would never recommend to any women because most of them are psychologically not relationship material. Most women who have high body counts are the same way. Having a standard of having sex with someone after the person agrees to some commitement or relationship does not make someone a slut and is not even close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 03:26 AM |
| 2 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?That is not what I said. I think that women would have better results if she waiting for a man to at least be exclusive and/or have a relationship before sleeping with him. Doing this would eliminate fuck boy types because they are not going to wait more than a couple dates at the most because the only thing they want is sex. A man at any level will wait some amount of time for sex with a women IF HE FEELS SHE IS WORTH IT. This is where the issues come in. Not that desirable women throw themselv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 03:23 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.I think that men who are striving for achieving a lot and spend lots of time doing that will find purpose in these pursuits and not feel so down about their lack of dating success. That is what happened to me. I had little dating success in my teens and early 20s and just kind of stop worrying about it. I did good and school and life got better. My 30s have been easier to get women under 25 compared to when I was that age. Your comment about how they can have the world when they are old and brok… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 03:14 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.People will want better than worse and all else equal will pick the better option in whatever domain it is. I agree with that. That doesn' change the fact that many men spend far more time complaining about dating than doing things to make themselves more attractive. Look at obesity statists and see that many men (though less than women) are really overweight. If these single fat dudes spent 3 hours a week working out they would have major physical changes that would make them more attractive. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:56 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.You are talking about different levels of issues here and I think that each of them requires a different perspective and solutions. You as an individual in your career, dating life, social life, and personal development- can all be affected by you as an individual. The greater social arguments of society are on a whole different level. I don't disagree with what you are saying regarding how the system is shitting on men 24/7 and ignores mens issues while is hypersensitive to women's. That does n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 02:48 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.I don't think you actually understand that having society shit on men constantly is creating many harmful things. Boys today in education have fallen behind women to a degree greater than women were behind men in the 1970s that caused Title 9 to be implemented to even out academic achievement amoung sexes. Women receive 50% more college degrees than men. Men get way longer sentences in prison than women. More men are homeless than women. I could go on. This content phrasing of men in horribly ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 12:37 AM |
| 4 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?so why is it so crazy to think that more and more women are also experiencing this same thing? I am just saying what I am seeing with women in my social circle and those my partner knows. They women are early 30s and express the frustration that they are still single because they want a husband and to have kids in the next few years. If these women did not express unhappiness with being single, I would agree with your point about being okay with solitude. The fact that they express their unhappi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 12:33 AM |
| 2 | What percent of men are able to date casually or date without the prospect of commitmentI do the same in saying there is a difference in obese and slightly overweight. Also how she carries the pounds matter because bigger curves and low abdominal fat looks way better than a woman of the same weight with no curves and lots of belly fat. I have slept with a couple women in my life who were large and threw no-strings attached sex at me. I wouldn't have dated them and did so because it was just there. I've know men who had high body counts and were desirable men at that, who had slept … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Are men really not attracted to fat girls?Most men do not like fat women. The truth is that many of these men will sleep with a fat girl if it doesn't require much effort and nobody has to know he is doing that. Men will often put these women in the 'sleep with but wont date' category. I think it has to do with the fact that most fat women I have seen are into men who are in better shape than them. Society will judge a man by the woman she dates. I am in shape and was dating a woman years ago who was a little heavy. She would notice tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/23 12:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.Cowardice and that these people don't actually care about the truth or reasonableness. It shows that the desire to push a narrative is the actual agenda that is more important than these other values | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:56 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.Me not wanting to fuck or date these women doesn't change the fact that their opinions and attitudes are changing the social discourse for the worst. Look at how the media is so blatantly pro-feminist and look at all the shows and movies that are blatantly mysandrist (see Barbie Movie, She Hulk etc.). Large amounts of people believeing toxic things has had strong negative effects on American culture. This has nothing to do with me or other individuals choosing to date or sleep with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:55 PM |
| 9 | Do Red Pill men try to eat their cake and keep it too with the: "Modern women are sluts... Women today have so high standers."?I think my frustration was seeing females in my social circle (in my 30s) or female friends of my girlfriend, talking about how they can't find a man and woe is me type of complaining about modern dating. What I have seen is these mostly chronically single women who are not that desirable who want men who are realistically top 5% of men, and these women showing constant refusal to accept that these men are not interested in comitting to them because they have better options and finding a man to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:52 PM |
| 1 | What is up with the term “tingles”?Its about attraction and what men makes her FEEL a certain way. I think it is where a man makes a woman feel a certain way where she wants him and her actions become mostly emotional based and less logical because she feels that intense desire and attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:42 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.This study I agree with you. People lose credibility when they rationalize and make excuses for what any unbiased person can clearly see what is happening. I think much of it is that people are scared to call out their 'tribe' be it feminists or other ideologies because it risks upsetting allies or people are afraid it will weaken the position of the ideology. The irony I think is that in not calling out toxicity, the loss of credibility is way more damaging to the ideology than calling out the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:26 PM |
| 1 | What percent of men are able to date casually or date without the prospect of commitmentYes. Saying you don't want fat or obese women is going to eliminate like 40% of obese women and overall around 2/3 women are overweight. Sadly just having that criteria of a woman who is not overweight will make it substantially more difficult. Also I think that larger women are more likely to have sex with you quickly than thin women. Thin women generally know they have more desirability and dating value and thus are less likely to give it up before they want too in order to try and keep you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:21 PM |
| 1 | What percent of men are able to date casually or date without the prospect of commitmentI think it depends on how desirable the man is and how desirable the women he is looking to date or sleep with are. I think the most honest description of Tinder would be a place for women to find casual sex with men more attractive than them who rarelly would want to commit to them while men can find casual sex with women below them if they are willing to entertain these women to an extent. I have done it and so have many other men. I have slept with women from dating apps that I wouldn't take … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:18 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.How have those men done more for men that those who actively improve themselves? I think that if every individual man as individuals was concerned with his success and improvement, it would mean that every man would rise up together. We all have control of our own lives and not those of others. It's the saying "be the change you want to see in the world". These people actively do make change while the 'activits' who do nothing but act as keyboard warriors or hold up signs at protests are basical… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:12 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.The problem is perpetual complainers would rather complain than actually do anything to get ahead. These people alienate most others because they will spend endlessly more energy in the act of complaining than the energy they spend to improve their situation. An example is that I argue that men should get off online dating because it really only benefits the 20 or so percent of men who are tall or handsome or successful. These apps reduce all aspects of a person into basically looks, while meeti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:09 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.In my experience with feminists I have known, other feminists are often very reluctant to call them out in major ways. Often it is the more reasonable feminists just saying that the blatantly mysandrist feminists (who I think are the majority) are in fact not real feminists because real feminism is not sexist towards anyone and doesn't hate men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:05 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.Many feminists will say mens desire for women who are not overly difficult women is because these men want to 'control' a woman who is not going to fight back what these men want. It is basically viewing men as negative as possible to take what men say and want and make it into as negative a light as possible I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:03 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Male spaces are losing because they won’t kick out those who don’t want help.I have felt similar things when I posted on my old account on RP articles that attempt to offer what I think are better solutions that what are often given. I would say things like men being better off not worrying about dating in their late teens and early 20s and going to college to get a degree or learning a trade or starting a business, because all of these things will help men grow as people and will be reflected with confidence as success increases. This plan is not quick or easy, but it s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 11:01 PM |
| 7 | Women get a lot of credit for being “good” people for no valid reasonI think it has a lot to do with intersectionality framing of the world in terms of oppressed groups and groups that are oppressors. Intersectionality also frames it that groups who are oppressed are also virtuous while the oppressors are vile and evil. There is the standard that if you are a victimized group you can do no wrong and the 'oppressors' can never be perfect enough. One of my biggest arguments against feminism is that most of the time it either blatantly of subtly phrases men in negat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 10:52 PM |
| 1 | So many people try to make women give honest feedback to men, but it's just rude and unsafeI think these men are more threatening because they display a type of deception that most other guys do not. A person who will tell you how they actually feel is at least transparent compared to the BP guys that generally are insecure people pleasers who hide their actual feelings because they think it will benefit them. Me, I'm past the point of lying to make people see me for what I am not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 10:46 PM |
| 1 | The Difficulty of Dating For Average Men is Nowhere as Hard as People in this Sub Makes it Out to BeWelcome to modern progressivism. As long as you can be labeled in an oppressed group you get a ladder to the top | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 05:26 AM |
| 1 | The Difficulty of Dating For Average Men is Nowhere as Hard as People in this Sub Makes it Out to BeI think I am more of an attractive guy than most (tall, been called handsome regularly, doing well success wise) and the matches I had were generally uninspiring. Most of the women I matched with on Tinder (in a very large city) were generally 4/10 attractiveness at best. To match with a woman who wasn't really heavy and above average facial, was not something that happened all that often. If my self-perception is accurate that I am physically more attractive than most guys in looks and have an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 05:25 AM |
| 1 | The Difficulty of Dating For Average Men is Nowhere as Hard as People in this Sub Makes it Out to BeI am confused by the contradiction in your post saying that "average" men can get dates easily, to which you then complain how much you dislike these same average men and how they aren't shit. You completely contradict yourself. If you said you were happy with 'average' men then that would be a different discussion. Also we don't know how attractive you are. If you are way below average and think an average man is okay (which your views don't actually support) then that would mean a way below av… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 04:11 AM |
| 1 | How does a woman's social media use affect your attraction to her?The more she does social media the less I am interested in her. There is a type of perfectionism called 'social perfectionism' that involves people who want to appear perfect to everyone else. These are people who do things only to manage the impressions others have of them. In relationships these are the people who post all the cute couples pictures, even if they are fighting and having a miserable relationship because they want the appearance of perfection. These people are more motivated by t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 04:06 AM |
| 1 | If you are unattractive, chances are it has NOTHING to do with your weightPersonality matters for relationships. You are mostly right though. I remember all the women in my 20s who had terrible personalities but still got relationships because they were hot. If one guy got tired of her bad personality, she could have him replaced in no time with someone just as good, and so they never faced any real consequences for their actions. Being in my 30s, I see many of these same women struggling so hard to find relationships because their expectations of men haven't changed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 04:02 AM |
| 1 | If you are unattractive, chances are it has NOTHING to do with your weightIt is a matter of there being so few women who are not fat that makes it difficult. As a guy in my 30s it is so rare to find a woman on a dating app who isn't 30+ pounds overwight or obese. In person among single women it is difficult to find women who are not overweight. Demographics say that about 2/3 Amerian adult women are overweight with about 40% of all adult women being obese. Because thin women are more desirable and more likely to find a partner, that makes the remaining single women di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:56 AM |
| 1 | If you are unattractive, chances are it has NOTHING to do with your weightI don't agree based on what I have seen with women I have known either being friends of my girlfriends I've had or women in social circles. Maybe I have seen a specific sample, but most of the single women I have seen are not interested in dating men who are as fat as they are. The women who are 50+ pounds overweight have had almost entirely avoided men who were as overweight as them. This is the men I've seen them go home with from bars, sleep with from the apps, or go on dates with from the ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:52 AM |
| 0 | The issue with dating todayIt really has made tinder a problem. I do like most guys and swipe right on whatever and then filter based on matches. I've done it a few times where I talked to fatter women than I prefer and slept with them just because they threw me the option. One girl I was just messaging for the hell of it and she asked to come over to my place and hook up that night, so I did. Told me she just got tested and let me blow in her 5 hours after we first messaged. Wasn't proud of it and I would never have date… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:44 AM |
| 0 | The issue with dating todayIt is so bad. My partner's female friends are so bad like this. They are all clearly meeting the obese threshold and always complement each other when they wear these tight outfits that make them look like hippos. About no man on earth wants that and these women, and others I have seen in my other social groups, will tell each other how beautifil they look when it should be obvious with anyone who has any working vision that this is just not true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:38 AM |
| 1 | The issue with dating todayExactly that. I would say most of the women on tinder or hinge are not even would I would rate 5 out of 10. I don't know about men because I don't date men or see their profiles. Among single women, I think that more than 40% are obese because a fit woman is viewed as more attractive and is far more likely to have found a partner she finds as adequate compared to an obese woman. This is will leave it that obese women would be overrepresented on the apps and thus be way higher than 40%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:34 AM |
| 2 | The issue with dating todayI don't think most men would put a fat woman as a 7 under almost any circumstances. Obese means that someone is drastically overweight, not just a few pounds. If I in my 30s met a woman who is obese now I can only be terrified how much worse it might get in the next few years. You cannot be obese and be a 7. I don't think it is possible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:31 AM |
| 1 | The issue with dating todayIts probably confidence if anything. I did better at women at 30 than 20, but my life got better with achievement and confidence was way better also. Learning to talk to women also made a world of difference | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 03:30 AM |
| 1 | So many people try to make women give honest feedback to men, but it's just rude and unsafeBlue pill men are the type of men who say what they believe because they think the nice guy act will get them laid. Their 'niceness' is based on the condition that you like them and give them what they want. These guys are fake as all hell and I can tell you because I have met many of them. Its an act. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 01:31 AM |
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