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Turning_blades/r/MGTOW29/11/19 04:57 PM
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Because they didn't treat women like starter girlfriends before. Essentially, they tried to treat women very well, which kills attraction in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 04:45 PM
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Well then, you answered your own question. Yes, some people seem like they just complain. But many people come online to share stories, compare notes, and solicit advice on why they might be failing and how to fix it. Sometimes, people find their problems and experiences to be so similar that they form groups such as red pill to discuss these shared experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:43 AM
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There aren’t forums after forums of people complaining they aren’t millionaires, that they don’t have some bodybuilder level physique I've read that around 9% of Americans are millionaires, I'm sure those with a body builder physique are similarly low. I think most people can accept that these are very rare and exceptional people. Are you implying that people having a romantic partner or a family should be the same level or rarity and difficult attainment as millionaires? So around 9% of America…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 01:36 AM
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Yeah sure, anything is possible. Is that your argument? We discuss generalities because it is necessary when talking about trends and the big picture. Of course, that always seems to be beyond what blue pillers are capable of. "But, but, I know a 5'1" balding indian janitor that slays." Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:39 AM
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Ans what makes a woman feel more special? A man who says "I don't know babe, whatever you want to eat?" Or a man who says "be ready by 7, I'm taking you to that new Mediterranean place in town." You can't separate the biological, and most women prefer the traditional, take charge, masculine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 02:29 AM
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Yeah but at some point they will grow large enough to make a big impact. And their loud complaints and discussions will help coordinate their efforts to bring about positive change for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:10 AM
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I hope they complain louder and more frequently, just because people hate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:04 AM
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Women will literally date a man who can't wash his ass before dating a non-Chad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:01 AM
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Well at least he’s an expert on dying I think in your head this was some very witty burn, but dying is something that happens to literally everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:37 AM
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No we see women constantly telling men their standards are too high if they don't want to date obese women and/or single mothers. Even if the guys are not obese and not single parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:34 AM
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Non-criminal women like criminal men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:45 PM
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An unhealthy relationship is subjective, but the point is that women would rather mate with a literal criminal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:35 PM
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Criminally convicted men are more likely than non criminal men to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:29 PM
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everyone can have whatever standards they want. Correct, but that doesn't mean we can't call them out on it. Since overweight women have less issues dating than overweight men it's relevant to notice and call out the disparity. every day men here tout their standards and yell they want some checklist woman. why can’t women do the same? Projection. Even on this post, women are saying they want Chad or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:16 PM
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Then the average woman is fat too. Many men are attracted to and chase chubbier women. Chubby women on the other hand think they are too good for their looks match.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:55 PM
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Men expect women to experience attraction the same way they do and get disappointed. Unfortunately female attraction doesn’t work like that. Chadfishing experiments consistently prove that is a lie. Female attraction can be just as raw, strong, and explicit. But only for Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:51 PM
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No but women still fall for these types of men, if they are Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:19 PM
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Painting Chad as a woman-hating villain is the interesting theory, but it isn’t remotely true. Men who are successful with women rarely hate women, they tend to enjoy women’s company. Great strawman, a classic blue pill tactic. Point to me where I said Chad hates women, or even used the word hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:31 PM
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That is an interesting theory, however one big problem with that that being misogynistic, making comments about sluts, treating women badly, etc. doesn't hurt Chad's chances with women. Women will throw themselves at men who treat them poorly if he is Chad, and keep coming back for more while complaining to her friends and beta orbiters about the Chad who won't return her calls or only sends a "you up?" Text at 2am. But rest assured she will answer that text and deliver herself to him anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:43 PM
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I like your first 2 points, as they were thought provoking to me, but your last point, basically "it is what it is". Yes, it may not be ideal. Yes, many women do hamster and say a lot of bullshit to justify this or themselves. But strip all that away and you still have an 'is what it is' situation. Women and men can like what they want, above, equal or below them. And both women and men can be alone if they cannot land an attractive option. This is at best, just an acknowledgment of red pill bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 03:21 AM
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No I'm saying "Chad" is by definition rare and greatly above average in physical traits. A 5/10 face doesn't cut it. You said bodybuilders get women but non-Chads in general can get women too. Getting a woman doesn't automatically make you a Chad and being a bodybuilder doesn't automatically make you a Chad. But it does increase the odds that person is a Chad vs a non-bodybuilder.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:25 AM
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Meh, you probably could find ways to delude yourself still. It actually takes alot of mental strength, mindfulness, practice, and discipline to exert this level of control over your consciousness. You are basically saying "just be a Tibetan monk bro". Like it's not easy or even within the realm of possibility for most people. The best they could hope for is a subconscious delusion which is where the mind will delude yourself as a coping/self defense mechanism to extreme pain (things like child a…
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:14 AM
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Bodybuilders should have a low body fat content, much lower than your average man. Not having a fat face bestows alot of advantages in facial beauty such as sharper more defined jawline and other features. With so many people being fat, this benefit will easily put them at least 7/10 face unless deformed or ethnic.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:09 AM
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They are telling on themselves. Their experiences, and thus complaints about all men in general, are based on them only going for men way above their league and being treated like crap.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 02:02 AM
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Is your argument that ignorance is bliss? This is pretty well accepted in the mainstream. The problem is that once you have the knowledge of the red pill, you can't really live in ignorance anymore.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 01:59 AM
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5/10+ face 5/10 in ANY physical characteristic is not Chad. Maybe Chadlite.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 01:55 AM
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“Please don't take testosterone if there's no medical need for it.” They really hate the thought of being tricked by a guy who wasn't born a natural Chad lol
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 06:48 PM
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Women, virginity, and sex are not some kind of prize given to men to affirm their value and masculinity. Strawman argument. I never said this. Y’all need some self esteem and respect that isn’t based on others. Ad hominem fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 01:34 AM
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Jesus, that's a low bar for feeling special. I mean, every woman who has ever had sex has had their first gentleman feel "special," right? So, what... we have a couple of billion guys out there who were "special" at that moment in time. It renders the term almost meaningless. Well with the rise in incels, the 80/20 rule, twice as many young men single as young women, are we dating the same guy pages/groups, it's not difficult to realize that many women are sharing the same small group of top men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:53 PM
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Cool, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 02:10 AM
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Can you purchase property/condos in the Philippines without being a citizen?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 01:45 AM
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Women love the simping, but they hate the simp. Similar to how a man might enjoy the easy sex a slutty woman provides, but not respect her enough for a serious relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate03/08/23 03:29 PM
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From your own presented evidence: "The current evidence, however, does not support Black males being more attractive than White males." So when asked, women said they found black faces for attractive. That doesn't necessarily translate into being more sought after by women, especially if women are considering other stats of black males such as lower income and higher rates of incarceration. In a time when everyone is scared of being called a racist, women calling black men attractive without nec…
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 03:15 AM
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I'm still waiting on your data showing black men as more desirable for dating.
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 02:50 AM
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Meaning that WW/BM is going to become more common. So now you are speculating on the future, which is difficult to do even with all the best data. And surprisingly, you are still presenting no data. Bro it’s common knowledge Source: Trust me Bro as time moves on society gets more progressive and less racist. There is alot of evidence that society and culture tends to move in cycles rather than just linearly in one direction.
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 02:44 AM
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If you have more recent data to the contrary, I'd like to see it. Funny to dismiss my data as outdated when you have presented none of your own.
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 02:36 AM
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https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women From the data we have available, black men receive the lowest amount of interest from women, while white men receive the highest. When you think about black Chads slaying, you are committing an "Apex fallacy". Of course Chads (of any race) have an advantage in the dating market. If you just think about celebrities, athletes, movie stars, men above 6ft, rich etc. Of course you a…
/r/AllPillDebate22/07/23 02:25 AM
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I think most people are nicer to people they find attractive, versus people they see as beneath them. Trying to date within your league uses this to your advantage.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 09:51 PM
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If he is much more physically attractive than the guys who normally LTR you. Is not an indication of character but can increase the odds his intentions are good if you two are in the same league.
/r/AllPillDebate20/07/23 09:33 PM
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I'm disabled and it's offensive that you would even compare the two. The difference between you and I is that I get all the sex I want So being short is worse than being disabled lol
/r/AllPillDebate16/07/23 03:35 AM
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It's not racist, that's just the dominant culture in the west. If a white guy goes to China and complains there is little white representation in magazines and media, that doesn't make them racist. You are just not the dominant culture in that area.
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 02:03 AM
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Does OP live in a third-world country?
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 03:11 AM
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If these people really thought that young women couldn't be mature enough for a relationship with another adult, they would be pushing to increase voting age for women to 25 or something. But they don't, so obviously we can all tell it isn't about the young women not being "mature" enough. It's just about policing men's sexuality while women are given free reign.
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 05:44 PM
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then why are so many women choosing neither? Because of online dating. Women now have tons more attention, from higher quality men than they would have had before online dating. Women find it difficult to be satisfied with average men like her mother did because she has experienced so much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:52 PM
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You can’t request this level of trust from people, especially considering that you can easily uncommit. Best argument against modern marriage I have heard in awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:12 PM
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There is no agenda to make men have no type. It's just market forces acting upon bottom 80% men. Most men just can't afford to have a type, and that's ok because men can be attracted to alot of different types of women, by design. You are designed to want to spread your seed far and wide.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 11:58 PM
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Well now you are talking about the exception not the rule. Most women don't want to be pumped and dumped lol oh brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 12:08 PM
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Real attraction cannot be negotiated. And a woman is not a shrewd negotiator because she lets herself get pumped and dumped by Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:55 AM
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McDonald's, charge they phone, twerk, be bisexual, eat hot chip, and lie.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 04:59 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:26 AM
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So men and women in western countries are not more privileged, on average, than men and women in the third world countries that constantly seek to emigrate to the west? Interesting lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:58 AM
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to put it into perspective, women got the right to vote in your great grandparents generation. When men have the right to vote, they have the responsibility of being drafted to fight in wars (WW2, Korea, Vietnam, etc.) When women got the vote, no such responsibility was assigned to them. Curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:06 PM
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Most people had it hard, men and women had different kinds of hard. Still doesn't mean society catered to the comfort of most straight men like OP suggested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:03 PM
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That is correct. Now you should ask who is privileged but has been made to believe that they are not privileged... Women and minorities in western countries, relative to women and non-whites in the countries they fled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:16 PM
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Society has uplifted straight young men for centuries. In the past, every aspect of society was developed and constructed around comforting and supporting straight men Apex fallacy as usual. Saying for centuries that society catered to straight young men, you would only be talking about a very small group of wealthy noblemen. Life for most men, the common working man, the poor, this was typically very brutal. From black lung in the coal mines to feeding the meat grinder in wars for said wealthy …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:56 PM
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Most women are average, and can't all deserve 6ft tall, 6 figure earning Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:42 PM
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That’s the problem. A lot of women are overqualified and still can’t find commitment. Most women are not over-qualified for the very few men they are all fighting over, but won't give them commitment. Unless you think a majority of women deserve some mythical Giga Chad who is better than the 6ft tall, 6 figure earners who are stringing them along for sex. Who themselves represent the smallest pinnacle of top SMV guys who exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:42 PM
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You can always find an exception to every pill, to every rule. We are speaking in generalities here to discuss a diverse amount of human experiences.
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 09:22 PM
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You have to first appreciate how low of an opinion they have of most of their options. Sure, but that just proves OPs point true which is: that she went for conventionally very attractive men that she always had actual serious suitors she didn't give a toss about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:18 PM
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unimpressive boys in the suburb the same way you wouldn't count a toothless old woman Look how extreme we have to make the unattractive women example, to explain to men how unattractive the average man is to women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:27 PM
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Sure everyone should want the attention of someone they are interested in too, but if a sizable amount of women decide that means no less than 6ft tall, 6 figure earners? Well then the math just doesn't add up. In your analogy it means alot of women are holding out for jobs which are exceedingly scarce and most are under-qualified for. Which they are well within their rights to do, but again, the math won't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:20 PM
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I'm saying if any person finds the average person of the opposite sex as repulsive as your analogy claims, then yes that person has some personal issues to work on. So most women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:16 PM
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So women only considering a 6ft tall, 6 figure earner (a very small percentage of the population) is the equivalent of a man not wanting a drug addict lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:11 PM
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Strange men in foreign countries are not my "bros". It's just competition and life, men are always expected to "adapt and overcome". No one cares about the struggles of men, that's why the only complaint you hear is about how it might be exploiting the foreign women, not about the foreign men who get out-competed.
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 06:05 PM
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So you are a kiss-less virgin by choice? If so, why are you asking if it is over for you?
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 11:24 PM
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That is still a stark difference from: get my dick sucked, beat somebody up, walk around holding my dick, bust somebody from the back doggy style, run a train on a chick, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:03 PM
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So what? Enjoy the decline, right? Do you want these guys to fix the problems of the west? A problem they didn't create and have no real power to fix.
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 02:20 AM
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Wahmen moment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:14 AM
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The bottom 80% of men are so undesirable, that they might as well be a whole different gender than the one you are attracted to. If sex with them is the equivalent of a straight man being penetrated by a gay man. Brutal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:27 AM
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I'm not sure you can possibly imagine how gross a suggestion this is unless I recommend that you mercy fuck ugly gay dudes. It would be a real kindness if you just let an ugly and weird gay dude put his hard dick in your mouth and ass I love how the equivalent of a straight woman having straight sex with a lower 80% man, is a straight man being penetrated by a gay man lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:13 AM
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I agree with this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:15 PM
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Most males will go clinically insane before living a life of wage cuckoldry with no chance or sex, partnerships, or love. Mother's don't expect this will happen, which is why these unattractive boys are told "just wait until you are older." Meaning, just wait until she is 37 with 3 kids and then you can finally settle down with her. And obviously parents must take care of their kids by law so that is going to be a lot of money spent on their childs ever spiralling mental health After 18 they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:38 PM
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Women do not care about men's dating issues, not even their own sons. Even if a man says he feels like his own mother actively lied to and gaslit him about how to be attractive to women. Even if he says his mother's advice was counter-productive to finding a healthy relationship, the response he will get is "ewww, why should your mom tell you how to get laid." Women's in-group preference towards other women is so strong that they will raise their own sons to be simps and cucks. Wage slaves who g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:29 PM
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Not just turning a blind eye, but actively cheering on any negative outcomes for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:56 PM
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Ding, ding! We have a winner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:21 PM
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For it to be rigged someone has to be messing with it. Well social media, online dating, even social safety nets for single mothers at the expense of non mating men. These are all man-made and relatively new inventions so I think they qualify as rigging the game. In fact, that’s life man. If you were born poor, the world is rigged against you, but so what? What are you gonna do about it? No argument here, yes life is unfair. But if the question is why are more men choosing not to play the dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 05:07 AM
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I think most men at the beginning do enjoy dating women. They are attracted to women and like to spend more time with them. But at the end of the day, a date can be boiled down to be successful or unsuccessful for a man. Individually he can determine what that success means, but I think for most men it means making a romantic connection with a woman who is also attracted to you and wants to take things further. Given that dating is becoming increasingly cut throat, winner take all due to OLD, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:10 AM
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That's a great example of survivorship bias that I had never considered before, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 08:27 PM
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A women feeling no romantic or physical attraction for a man says nothing whatsoever about his value or worth as a human being. Then why have women often used the term "virgin" as an insult to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:35 PM
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It seems, from my perspective, that TRP advocates that young men need fathers, but also says to never date/marry single mothers and attack them as well. Sorry TRP, you can't have it both ways! Yes TRP can have it both ways, because the goal of TRP is not to solve the problems of the world, but instead to give individual men knowledge they don't get elsewhere so they can make decisions that maximize their own personal circumstances. Enjoy the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:50 AM
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I don’t see why similarity in promiscuity is any more important a factor than say similar taste in food. Because I feel that promiscuity informs other values and beliefs such as around sex and relationships in a way that "taste in food" does not. It is a red flag, it's a risk factor. It is no guarantee but when vetting someone for an LTR and so much is at stake for men, they should be more discerning, not less. Similarly, if all her friends were drug addicts or criminals, this isn't a guarantee …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 05:35 AM
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pretty sure there are other factors that people can share beyond level of promiscuity/sex drive that dictate their friendship compatibility. Well I never said that similar sex drive is the only factor most people consider when making friends, so you can stop laboring against that straw man. "Birds of a feather flock together" is an old saying that means people tend to associate with other people who have similar values, personality, interests, etc. Is there one single attribute or belief that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 04:34 AM
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Cool, you may be an outlier, most women I encounter on PPD claim to be. But anyway, birds of a feather flock together doesn't mean your friends "incentivise" you to do something. It means people tend to befriend and hang out with people who have similar interests and personalities as them. Again, you may be an outlier to that, but the phrase speaks to people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:44 AM
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Birds of a feather flock together. If you find yourself wondering why all her friends are hoes but she seems like a nice, innocent girl. I've got some bad news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 12:14 AM
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Part of the consequences of the sexual liberation movement & hookup culture was obviously relaxed views and behaviors on sex, which benefited men in that they often no longer had to propose marriage or even seriously court a woman to get sex. Only a small portion of men (Chads) benefit from this. The men who have to study/use red pill were not getting the benefits of these sexual liberated women. The sexual revolution meant they have to settle for them later after they rode the CC. The red pill …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 12:59 AM
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I am saying women have options to free themselves of pregnancy with no legal consequences. Men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:16 PM
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If the woman doesn't want this burden, she has options to free herself with no legal consequences. The man does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:11 PM
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I see a lot of guys here who hate single mothers. Based on that, if an incel guy gets with a woman (big IF) We can stop here at "big IF"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:03 PM
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Regardless of a man’s smv, should he decide to abandon a family, he just can, with literally no consequences besides child support . Yep, absolutely no consequences except a huge one that can have his wages garnished and even land him in jail for non-compliance. Other than that no big deal. Once a woman is pregnant it’s not like the baby can just go away. I guess traveling to a blue state for an abortion or giving up for adoption don't exist as choices for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:02 PM
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These men are not bothering any woman, nor trying to tear down society. They are just living their own life, working just enough for them, and yet they are hated. They may not be trying to tear down society but that's what will happen if a large enough percentage of working age men do this. Society relies on the surplus and abundance than men work for when they want to compete for mates. If enough men check out and do their own thing it will bring down society. I think people realize this on an …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:13 PM
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Zero debt, zero children, zero years older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:44 PM
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Yes but in practice this means "I want to marry you so you have to wait around while I ride the CC for years. And even if we do get around to dating, you will get sex much later and after putting in more effort than previous men." So in practice it is an insult to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:38 PM
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When a nation goes to war, it’s soldiers aren’t “ submissive” to the state, they fight and sacrifice for the state, Soldiers are trained to submit to the orders of their commanding officers. And to submit themselves to the overall mission.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 10:27 PM
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All my female friends who are well-adjusted So unicorns lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:51 PM
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That's not intuition, that's just trying to save face and not appear to be so shallow when rejecting an ugly man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 08:49 PM
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Moderately does not mean equally. Great, that's not what I said. In my example, both man and woman are both moderately disagreeable, and to the same extent (so equally disagreeable as well as moderately disagreeable.) I'm sorry this is so difficult for you to grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:46 AM
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neurodivergent people may be more likely to find the ritual of small talk exhausting and prefer depth in all conversations. Ok I agree with this. But I thought adhd, autism, etc. were considered disabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:43 AM
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You’re contradicting yourself. Doing something moderately means doing something within reasonable limits. Not really. A man and woman can be of equal disagreeableness, as measured in a gender neutral and objective way, say a personality test. The man will still be seen as more attractive to many women but the woman will be seen as a bitch by many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:40 AM
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I was told recently that the desire to have in-depth conversations over small talk is a neurodivergent trait. Intelligent, non-mentally disabled people love in-depth conversations too. But the difference is they can read a room and know the right time and place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:37 AM
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There are differences in agreeability in men and women, and these inform our mating choices. That's why a moderately disagreeable man will be seen as confident and assertive (attractive) to most women. The opposite, a moderately disagreeable woman will be seen as a bitch (unattractive) to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:23 AM
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Men are often pretty agreeable with whoever is at the top of the heirarchy they’re part of. Maybe they aren’t always happy with the decisions being made. But they’re complacent with it up to a certain point. Most people of both gender are fairly agreeable. But most of the very disagreeable people are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 11:54 PM
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I want to come home to someone I can debate with, not only pretty young face. You are very much the exception, as most men do not want to come home from a long day at work and then "debate" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:39 PM
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Your friends reflect who you are, your IGs and TikTok reflect what you like and interact with the most. Not what the broad reality is or even what universal trends necessarily are. Women to Men: You can't even trust your own eyes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:32 AM
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Oh yeah, you think that would be their major concern? Not the transgenders twerking at the library while reading to kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:27 AM
1

Hypergamy confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:13 AM
1

So we assume every woman in her 20's is abusing her boyfriend in his 20's? Since at this point she has more SMV leverage than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:21 AM
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You forgot this part, it's important too: a man who doesn't know his true value on the dating scene and is "naive" about being a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 05:16 AM
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He was a GREAT man & good at many things, I dated a man who was very set in life and could take care of me I probably loved him as much as I did bc I saw him as my equal. He was brilliant, and arguably the male version of me. So besides the last guy, being a humble brag of you being so smart, how is this not agreeing with OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 02:44 AM
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It's the insane ramblings of reddit permavirgins Argues credibility, then resorts to ad hominem attacks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:16 PM
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ace men exist. Great. Very rare exceptions do not prove anything. Obviously, we are discussing generalities here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 11:10 PM
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Low value men and women are the same to me. It's hilarious to me that on a question for women asking to define low value women, they can't help but shoehorn men into the conversation. I'm posting this reply to each occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:35 PM
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It's hilarious to me that on a question for women asking to define low value women, they can't help but shoehorn men into the conversation. I'm posting this reply to each occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:34 PM
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It's hilarious to me that on a question for women asking to define low value women, they can't help but shoehorn men into the conversation. I'm posting this reply to each occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:33 PM
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Question for women, what is a low value woman? A low value woman or man in general honestly its both men and women Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:14 PM
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Thanks, now I gotta wonder if she's thinking about me, or the gorilla in a cage lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 03:14 AM
2

Salty RP dudes are actually laying in wait for me to go to sleep so they can raid the subreddit. Female solipsism confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:23 PM
1

Someone who judges people based on their abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:20 PM
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people won't be as accepting until most or half of the population has autism, aspergers, or adhd. Man, this sounds like a living hell if we get to this point and you are one of the few non-spectrum people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:18 PM
3

Nature vs nurture. There are lots of things that are prolific today that aren't exactly optimized from a biological standpoint. Culture plays a role, which pushes homosexuality. Technology plays a role also, as many people who have eye issues survive now, since we can easily correct with glasses, contacts, and surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:02 AM
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I tried to reply to your post but went under automod. And also this poster pointed out the same section that I thought pisses men off the most: You said: For the most part, men have a harder time finding any partner, women have a harder time finding the right partner. Both are difficult and lonely for different reason. Sounds like: For the most part, a homeless man has a harder time finding any food, a wealthy woman at a buffet will have a harder time finding her favorite food. Both are difficul…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:18 AM
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For the most part, men have a harder time finding any partner, women have a harder time finding the right partner. Both are difficult and lonely for different reason. For the most part, a homeless man has a harder time finding any food, a wealthy woman at a buffet will have a harder time finding her favorite food. Both are difficult and lonely for different reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 04:13 AM
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LMAO. Women will go through such mental gymnastics to avoid the truth, only to finally admit it when pressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:11 PM
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good guys don’t use underhand methods to ‘get sex’ Doesn't matter, had sex. This makes them easy to spot The number of single mother homes says otherwise. I don’t argue that some guys appear to be good but use underhand tactics to ‘get sex’ but it’s not easy to keep that mask on I didn't say it was easy, I said it worked. not many guys are smart enough to pull it off False. Low IQ criminals reproduce at a very high rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:05 PM
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He’s got a good sense of humour, knows when to be cheeky and confident, knows when to be serious and has good idea for making boring stuff fun, Perfect. Because when you ask a guy for a definition of a good guy it will be things like trustworthy, honorable, loyal, ambitious, hard working. A woman's definition of a good guy has nothing to do with those things and everything to do with being a mind reader who knows when to push or pull depending on her own whims and wherever she is on her cycle at…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:42 PM
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its mainly because he’s a good guy What's your definition of "good guy"? Because lots of high n count criminals, celebrities who already have tons of kids they don't see, etc. all have more women lining up to be their next mistake than alot of good guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:24 PM
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Genders matter - if you’re a bigot. Society already treats women better in the justice system. No feminists complaints there. I guess if everyone is a bigot then maybe it becomes meaningless. Casual sex is not more disgusting when women do it Disgust is a matter of opinion, so if men find women who have had alot of causal sex to be disgusting. Then that is just how they feel you can't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:39 PM
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"No, men are exempt. They can have endless casual sex with as many sluts as they want and it has no bearing on his morality or virtue." No one says this and most guys will tell you the male equivalent of a slut (fuck bois) are not a good choice for women to date. Either everyone is a bad/amoral slut for having casual sex, or nobody is. This isn't true either. Our sense of Justice allows for nuance and some grey area. For instance a poor woman who steals a loaf of bread for her starving children …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:37 PM
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Would you be okay if numerous people told you that, because your own personality and values go against something they're holding up as a majority statistic, you are inherently a liar? It's because many people are trying to discuss overall trends and experiences that affect a large portion or a majority of people. So when a guy posts something like a statistic about a majority of women will not date a guy shorter than them. And then like clockwork a PPD woman will chime in with a low IQ response …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 12:49 AM
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Ok so based on what you I say I can tell where you are on the timeline. You went from Chad's booty call to "I'm a strong, independent woman who don't need a man."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 03:01 AM
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Yes serial monogamists. Just starting with the hottest but least likely to wife them up, moving slowly down towards least hot but most likely to wife them up. And their lowering of standards does not coincide with "maturity" but rather inability to do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:57 AM
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No because AF/BB means they do want them around, but just not for right now. They want them to stick around waiting for them to finish riding the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 02:53 AM
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Yep. Definitely must have hit a nerve lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:38 AM
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Don’t care what you do. Just stop telling the women who don’t want you. We do not care. I love the passport bro movement because it turns women into MGTOW types. Basically can't shut up about how much they don't care about these dudes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:33 AM
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How can you think of men as superior, made themselves etc when they abandoned you 70% of divorces initiated by women. Women are more likely to be granted custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 12:01 AM
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Educated, high income 250k/year, assets in 7 figures, white collar professions. This is not "most men", as you falsely stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:58 PM
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Im not Fucking any of the guys I’m seeing. Then they are fucking other girls. These finance bros and tech bros (who are very nice) are still making time for me. Yeah, they are definitely fucking other girls. If they are HV enough to have options (ex. Women describe them by their careers/income.) Then they have just demoted you to "let's keep on backburner and see what happens. Unless they are spending all their time with you, which is impossible because you are seeing other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:35 AM
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From the point of view of a man trying to get a relationship or casual sex, 2 and 3 are functionally the same. You aren't getting with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:09 PM
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So women want a man to deal with their emotional responses in a specific way without having to deal with his emotions at all. Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 05:02 PM
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The "word" privilege implies unfair preferential treatment. This is in your head. Meaning you are making assumptions that aren't being said. Privilege is neutral. I fly alot and have accumulated airline status. Due to this I have the privilege of early boarding. Being fair or unfair is a separate issue. And someone being at fault is another issue too. Mens realistic expectations (relative to women) mean that women have an advantage (privilege) in dating in this regard. Both men and women are fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:33 PM
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To be unrealistic like many women? Why would they do that? Why would a man say I only want to date the top 15% women in height, the top 10% women in income? Just because women think they need this level of partner to be happy doesn't mean that men think the same way. Having realistic expectations is not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:16 PM
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It's a female privilege that men have more realistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 02:10 PM
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Yes, that's the right answer. Stay away from Alpha widows
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 08:54 PM
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even if I'm a jacked millionaire I'll still be 5'10 with an average looking face. So unless I go down the plastic surgery rabbit hole then my absolute limit is about a 6/10. And the real issue is after all that, your looks match or a girl 2 points lower will still act like she is doing you a favor
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 07:30 PM
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Plenty of single moms on dating apps, it's a cliche at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 08:05 PM
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In other words: men do the same things that they criticize women for doing (dating low-quality partners and then becoming cynical when things crash and burn) Can be true yes. Yet, my mom had zero problems pulling high-value men. The difference is the average man is not having zero problems pulling high-value women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:56 PM
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my mother. she didn't do dick Hmmmmmmmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:35 AM
1

Yes. And kind of worse than height because not only you can't change it, but it keeps depreciating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:17 PM
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What is your criteria of the top 20% genetic fitness in men? And where is your evidence that women are choosing these men? Because there are many great men who aren't picked to be fathers, and many objectively bad men who are picked over and over again. Example: In the U.S. we have higher rates of single mother homes than in the past, and this had been connected with all sorts of negative consequences for society. So it actually seems like women are not picking the best men to be fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 05:59 PM
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Men are also needed in baby production, therefore, men are not disposable. Yes but one man can impregnate many, many different women without having to wait 9 months in between. So surplus men are disposable, relative to women.
/r/MensRights24/10/22 05:31 PM
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If that were the case tho, the companies would report things like loosing subscribers or the app being deleted at a rapid rate. But they aren’t. No they wouldn't. The men are the main cash cow, why would they let on that their apps are actually a sausage fest? the apps don’t care: they make their money of the thirsty dudes. Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 04:15 PM
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Of course there are more thirsty dudes active on OLD. There are more thirsty dudes than thirsty women in general. And the women that want a hookup can easily jump on, find what they want, then delete the app and/or not be active until they need it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:55 PM
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9 dudes for every girl doesn't mean that 90% of men are active on apps either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 03:44 PM
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Reproduction being a strong incentive/biological urge, etc. is well studied and documented in the scientific community. It applies to almost all living organisms on Earth. The fact that you seem to think this idea is a PPD thing is hilarious and makes me wonder if the shortage of women in STEM fields is due to lack of interest or lack of ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:56 PM
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Do you really think that if enough women refused to sleep with him he would have been "fixed"? Depending on the type of charges, this "toxic male" inmate might already be a lost cause. The point is to show that women are incentivizing this type of masculinity in society, and if this wasn't the case then guys won't become toxic after seeing the success with women that it would bring them. There are always going to be criminals and other undesirables. But maybe we can reduce the amount by creating…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:18 PM
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Even if I agree with you that climate change is real, the when being the tough part (leftists have been claiming we will all be dead in the next 10 years for about 50.) Wait until societal collapse to have a love life is the most blue pill advice ever. In the sense that it isn't good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 09:08 PM
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Jordan Peterson and a bunch of red pill yourubers told me climate science isn't real bro, everything's gonna be fine And we all know climate change is real, so... "Just take a shower and wait for the apocalypse." If this is the best that blue pill has to offer, why would anyone need the red pill 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:52 PM
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It's great being tall/big...until food shortages come along. Just wait till the apocalypse, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 08:09 PM
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Then it's the same advice women always seem to give men. Stop doing online dating lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:58 PM
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About 85% of the country is pro-choice, and about half of pro-choicers are men I would be very surprised if even 60% of Americans identified as pro-choice. You have any data for that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:47 AM
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I am against abortion and you immediately jump to legalizing rape next? It's so interesting to see how unhinged the left is becoming. And sure, refuse sex to whoever you want. Most women I know who are most vocal pro choice are purple haired, overweight, lesbians anyway. Which I still don't understand, like who is getting them pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:39 AM
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How are conservatives pushing women away? You have to take a road trip to kill babies now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:29 AM
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They don't have to carry any pregnancy to term. They can choose to prevent it and not get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:20 AM
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Ok, but do you understand how one side would antagonize and push men away more often? Say sike right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:19 AM
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Abortion harms both male and female fetuses. It is not a gendered issue!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:14 AM
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You are certainly entitled to that opinion. TRP will continue to grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:48 AM
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Justice and fairness aren't selfish. Slaves might be good for society but it's bad if you value individual people. Also TRP is not concerned with morality. They aren't going to change because someone shames them so really no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:40 AM
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if you need to be appreciated to have morals than you aren't a moral person. its that simple Not if their morals are based on fairness towards them. Then they are moral people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:35 AM
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I don't believe there is anything dishonorable in making the best of a bad situation. Again, most TRP men are not Chads so are in a bad situation, SMV and RMV. Try to get married and start a family but most women will resent and mistreat them? Many men come to this revelation and go MGTOW. A sense of honor and duty should go both ways, and if society does not appreciate some men then they are doing maintaining their honor by not simping for a society that is adversarial to them. A society that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:20 AM
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i dont see any indication of redpillers working towards a traditional or honorable lifestyle at all. Well now you are judging red pillers on your morality, which is fine but doesn't make them hypocrites. These people believe that there is nothing they can do to fix things, and so they live their lives according to those beliefs. maybe there's some contingent of honorable redpillers but i clearly missed them TRP is not about making morality claims, so anything that makes these men honorable or no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:59 AM
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i mean i was talking about those two guys in my original comment tho. like, why are those guys are supposedly pulling girls not wifing the good ones with low n count? that was my question And I am saying that those two are not representative of TRP or even a majority of it. Most guys are not Chad and most who find TRP are not Chad. If those two guys are a hypocrite for believing that trad life is the best but not working towards it, that isn't an indictment of TRP or even most red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:30 AM
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the fresh and fit guys are saying it every five seconds so I assume at minimum those guys do. Two red pillers (if they claim that) believe themselves to be Chad's. This could be the case but doesn't make them representative of all or even most of TRPers. Again, most come to TRP truths because they are not Chad. isnt the whole poitn of redpill to change that about themselves? It is a part of it, but that is no guarantee that most will be successful at it, or even that it could make a significant …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:21 AM
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Being TRP doesn't mean you have a certain set of morals. It is just a theory of how the sexual marketplace and women act, and some tools on how to successfully navigate that to your advantage. Men can absolutely be TRP and have an "enjoy the decline" mentality. If they act in accordance with that then there is no moral hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:07 AM
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it seem to me like they have ther pick of whoever they want, and then they are choosing to create the very problem they go into villify, then blame women for it. make it make sense chief Who said TRPers have their pick of whoever they want? Guys who have no issues in the SMV are unlikely to even search out and find TRP. Once many guys find TRP, they may realize that most or all of their available choices are not good enough for an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:03 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:30 PM
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Then after you break up she is sleeping with Chad fast again. Guys have seen it too many times to believe the "I learned from my mistakes" line. At least those are the girls they are complaining about, and there are many.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:40 PM
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Women median = 3 sex partners in a LIFETIME Hard to trust these numbers for real. I bet if you remove the super fatties that nobody wants, and really old ladies that aren't really on the market. It has to be much higher than 3 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:04 AM
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I think that is a bad analogy, at least for what I was describing. I meant I've heard autistic people say things they know they should do more of or less of, and these are usually all behaviors. I'm not talking about a skill based tasks like singing. Like if I tell people "I should be making eye contact when I talk to you" and then I don't make eye contact. People would just think I was a jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:06 AM
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Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense to me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 06:11 PM
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Autistics seem to usually be able to explain what they do wrong and what they should be doing instead. Like ok so just fix it right? Probably alot more to it that I don't understand lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:52 PM
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It has been the sad awkward scientist with a bad childhood or the socially awkward guy who struggles a lot with his mental health, or the extremely neurotic medical student with a fear of abandonment, or the guy that was a virgin because of sexual trauma and feeling uncomfortable around attractive women. I bet in most cases these guys are all hot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:45 PM
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PUAs weren't saying looks don't matter. That's why they had a term called peacocking and generally encourage men to dress in a way that makes them look like the biggest asshole in the room. They are using looks to portray confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 09:55 PM
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Yeah that's why I jumped in for OP. Took about 5 minutes to type out no biggie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:24 PM
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"I want to buy a car and the salesman wants to sell me a car, why should we be considered opposing?" Because if you do not, you will get taken advantage of by the other side because each has their own goals above and beyond just the sale. Namely, the salesman wants to sell the car for the highest price he can get and the buyer wants to buy the car for the lowest price they can get. Another buyer or salesman can also be considered opposition, especially if there are supply issue such as not enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:19 AM
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He’s a hypocrite if he expects and demands “consistency” between himself and all past partners of hers but is not willing to do the same. What if he did like her as much as he did previous girls and even showed her? Treated her just as well if not better, and even willing to LTR her just as soon? But she made him wait for sex while Chad got it fast and easy. He is now under no obligation to treat her just as well because she isn't treating him just as well. He can walk away and not stick around …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:03 AM
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Therefore if you’re a man arguing this, under your own logic, you better be willing to wait as long as you ever have previously. Lest you’re signaling how little you desire your future partners and are a hypocrite to boot. Ok and if he isn't willing to wait as long for another girl, that means he moves on. How is that making him a hypocrite? If he stuck around and kept telling her how much he loved her, then he is willing to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:54 AM
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This is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:44 PM
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Legalized prostitution will lead to more trafficking. Cite your source please, if this is true I would be interested to know more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:38 PM
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But there is no one "implied solution", and actually there are many solutions discussed which have nothing to do with reducing female freedom. Things such as legalized prostitution, maybe even sex vouchers for guys that are on the worse end. Of course I am talking about willing participants not sex slaves or anything. There are also small cultural things such as being more honest about sex and attraction with boys in the same way we are with girls. Parents of really short boys can maybe get assi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:19 PM
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B. However, she gets plated while I look for someone else to be serious with, since I can't take her serious after that. She basically just let me know she isn't serious about me, doesn't respect me/us, and should be demoted to plate. I'm not (A) breaking up because it could still be easy/good sex which will help me be less thirsty while out looking for the one. I'm not (C) making a big deal about it and telling her to lose his number because if she was serious about me and respected what we had…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:52 AM
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Freedom and security - As a man, I pretty go much go anywhere and do anything, I want, Men are the victims of violent crime more than women. You can feel safer but statistically you aren't. As a man, I control when encounters happen with women When I walk into a nightclub, I determine who I approach, and when/how it happens. I'm in control of the action. I don't have to be passive, and hope the "right" woman approaches me For the average man, this is not a choice you make, that's just how things…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:45 AM
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One thing I can tell you is young love isn't as great as those who missed out idealize it to be. Just think about how shitty the average modern women that you know are. Now add even more of all the things that make them shitty. More immature, more impulsive, more about "me, me, me". The same rules apply, and if you aren't like 3 or 4 points above her, lose frame, etc. She will cheat/branch swing faster than shit. Even more because she is not considering the consequences more than an older woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:59 PM
1

That's a great option too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:53 PM
1

Tbf, nothing is more boring and lower value then a good responsible man. Which is why a smart man will adapt. Men can be much more successful at getting what they want when they learn to employ subtle abuse and manipulation on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:12 PM
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Women have high standards yet we have a single mom crisis going on Modern women have high standards for things that are superficial or shouldn't be as important. Like 6 foot tall, 10/10 looks, etc. But they have low standards for stuff that should matter like "Is he responsible? Will he stick around after a kid? Will he make me a wife?" As long as he meets the first paragraph she won't care as much about the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 08:28 PM
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Was that social experiment done on dating apps or in real life? Because if looks are the only thing offered of course they matter. Looks were not the only thing offered. In the Chadfishing experiments he is talking about, the very attractive men self identified as rapist, child predators, etc. And the majority of women didn't care because he was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:01 AM
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Are all black people scheming liars in your world as well? Not touching that one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:59 PM
1

Yes exactly, this is why modern women are so skilled at subterfuge and manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:42 PM
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Women had to be able to quickly change allegiances and move on with the new man in order to survive. Those who chose to remain loyal to her dead husband and defeated tribe were killed. I am placing no judgement on those decisions, I probably wouldn't be here if those choices weren't made. But that is why modern women are the way they are, can't blame them. Women's survival was based on placing yourself above others. For men it is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:11 PM
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It's the same thing? So a woman raped in 65 BCE could call the police? Have a man charged with rape and imprisoned? A woman in 65 BCE could carry a gun to level the playing field between her and a male aggressor? Is rape as common in civilized (western) societies as it was when we lived by the laws of nature? Is a single back alley assault (your example) the same as a lifetime of sex servitude (my example)? Back then a woman had no recourse and as I stated her husband was already killed. Why wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:02 PM
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Cool thank you for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 03:06 PM
2

What if you knew plenty of women found him creepy? They didn't know any extra information on him that you didn't know, so no secrets or anything. But they just found him creepy and you didn't. You thought he was great. Would the views of these other women change your views of him?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:46 PM
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So you have to actively seek out their spaces, and people do this on purpose to get offended?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 07:22 PM
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Despite telling women that he is fucking other girls, won't give them a relationship and won't even care if she enjoys having sex with him, women are still lining up. Exactly, TRP wasn't created in a vacuum. This is the treatment women respond to, so we are just giving them what they want. When it stops working, TRP will stop doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 02:09 AM
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Because your comment is a clear example of virtue signalling. I agree with you, it is textbook virtue signaling. And is probably such a big part of who he is that he even does it when in an anonymous forum. Also, does this sound like any guy you ever met? Or maybe like a female larping as a dude? Single moms legitimately don't bother me. I really only care that women I date are hot, smart and cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:14 PM
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Honestly, I get accused of white knighting by guys like OP all the time. It never resonates with me. I'm never actually defending anyone—I'm just attacking a weak argument. Probably because you say things like: Men here seem to have a big aversion to single moms. Why? What's the big deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 07:34 PM
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Lol rekt
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:00 AM
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What does dying alone have to do with 80/20? Well that was your argument against OPs claim of 80/20, so you tell me. It is good advice, and I agree people should try to make the best of a bad situation, but that is still doesn't disprove 80/20. I'm definitely well within the 20% line and I'm probably going to die alone too lol 80/20 doesn't mean every single person in the top 20 will have a perfect relationship and not die alone. Especially, if they aren't looking for a good relationship or view…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:56 PM
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Just die alone. Soooooooo.......80/20 rule confirmed, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:17 PM
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Kim Kardashian is dating someone significantly poorer than herself. Because she's typical of the average woman? Women with more money do date and marry less educated and less financially secure men. Sure, but usually they are outliers and/or only do it when they have no other options. Men marry less financially secure women as a rule. Most times women would rather remain single than enter into relationship with a man less financially successful than them. Except for maybe billionaires like Kim K…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:11 AM
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This question seems to arise when a woman who isn't poor and has social status won't date or have sex with a man that has less than her. And this question doesn't arise If the genders are reversed. Men marry and date down financially and socially all the time. Because their financial equals don't want him, she wants higher than herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:21 PM
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Ok, and the average man finds the average woman attractive, unlike the reverse, so that's not a small group of women we are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:18 PM
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We're all attracted to money, looks, social status, Most men are not looking for social status or money from their female romantic interests. Yeah as a man honestly Cool but you have to know you are not typical for men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 11:15 PM
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No I stand by what I said. Some other urban subcultures are much more red pilled than your typical American household. In those places I expect to hear "guard 'yo MF seed, yo!" Or some variation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 01:11 AM
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This guy apparently sat around listening to his drunk and high uncles calling women bitches and whores and doesn't realize that isn't typical of most men's childhoods lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:11 PM
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“Protect your seed” Outside of maybe Hip-hop culture, most Americans don't talk like this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:59 PM
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You need to ask those men who got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:30 AM
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Women have it too easy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:27 AM
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It’s the reason rape is illegal and marriage is not So the worst thing that can happen to women is illegal, and the worst thing that can happen to men is legal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 03:24 AM
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So women are not hyper competitive with each other when it comes to their men? Showing off big engagement rings, trying to get that perfect pic of them together posted on social media, bragging about their husband's careers. Chasing rich, famous, and otherwise high status men. If that's not you, cool. Women on here constantly remind us they are the exception to every rule. Doesn't prove the rule, and what men observe, to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 07:32 PM
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Because when women are honest they are never satisfied with "good enough". A woman always wants the very best and only settles for "good enough" when she has no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 07:16 PM
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Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it? If all humans have standards they want met in a potential partner, why are we all angry about each other’s standards? Hypergamy is not just "having standards"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:18 PM
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I would rather a woman be comforting, as that is more feminine to me. As a matter of fact, I've never looked to a woman for solutions to any problem I had, unless it was actually her job to do so. Nor do I know any other man who would look to a woman, especially a romantic partner, for solutions. Generally men want feminine women, that means leading with comfort. Of course if we are a couple dealing with a shared problem, I want her to help with a solution as it probably needs to be something we…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:49 PM
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Women's attraction is not similar to men's, it is similar to other women's. Even the women on here routinely state that they see men as either fuckable or not. Where men favor the 1-10 scale. It's really why this sub exists, there is very little common ground in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:28 AM
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Ok cool. So your OP is wrong but men do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:48 AM
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The reason men think women's attraction is complicated and intricate and easily lost is because most of them are only on the cusp of being attractive to a woman So most men are on the razors edge of attractiveness to women, such that it doesn't take much, just a small variable, to push them over the edge either way. And this is NOT the same thing as saying women's attraction is intricate and easily lost?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:43 AM
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The conversation we need to be having now: is why some, if not most, women do not like men who are 'emotionally expressive'? That's easy. Dealing with someone else's emotions is difficult. And someone who is being emotional is unable to give you their full attention. So emotional men are both more difficult to deal with and also are unable to give full attention to women. And the question is why do most women not like emotionally expressive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 09:53 PM
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Well, for starters, look at history, then the relative size, strength, bone density, aptitude for violence of men and women. The problem, and main point of OP that everyone is tap dancing around: In peacetime, many women and/or liberals are all about affirmative action, gender quotas, etc. But once the bullets start flying, suddenly it's "best person for the job, biology and such..."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:12 PM
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Ok then you will need to explain that further, since circular logic and paradoxes don't usually stand on their own. Outside of maybe theoretical physics or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:06 AM
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Sure. So you made this statement: If there are jobs we didn’t need we wouldn’t have them. For the above statement to be true, that unnecessary jobs can't exist because they are all eliminated. This would mean that each enterprise within a free market is 100% optimized and efficient. I know this to be false, however, since the free market is not 100% optimized and efficient, for reasons I explained in my first response. Ex. some companies are so large and/or without competitors and so don't need …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:59 PM
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I don't disagree with anything you replied here, just your initial claim that: If there are jobs we didn’t need we wouldn’t have them. Which as I stated is not the case currently, and this is possible because not all free market enterprises are 100% efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:16 PM
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A job is a job. If there are jobs we didn’t need we wouldn’t have them. Offering jobs that aren’t needed in a capitalist society makes 0 sense. You are assuming that every enterprise in a free market is 100% optimized and running at peak efficiency. In truth they are not. Some companies are so big and without meaningful competition, that they can have BS jobs and no one really looks into it too deeply because it isn't noticed. The departments that do produce create so much profit no one cares. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:03 PM
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I love how women that cheat are automatically unreliable Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:11 PM
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Did you read what I posted before arguing? I never said rapists are never convicted or always get off or anything like that. Honor killings are at about the same rate as that oh-so American variant of it, the murder- suicide, usually when the wife has filed for divorce I never compared the two. to think that an average raped woman in a Moslem country will be killed and her violator will walk Scot-free is so divorced from reality I never made this claim either. I didn't quote numbers or stats. Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:51 PM
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I simply pointed out that in Islamic countries convicted rapists are EXECUTED. In some countries sure. In many they are very rarely prosecuted. Many times the victim is killed instead. It is called an honor killing and the men who do the killing are also rarely prosecuted. If you think this doesn't happen then I won't try to convince you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:37 PM
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Well, my argument was not that the west is perfect. But instead that many Islamic countries are much worse for human rights and less progressive objectively. Due to: Many Islamic countries, specifically those strictly adhering to Sharia Law are objectively worse in terms of human rights violations according to international organizations. Middle Eastern refugees don't go to their middle eastern neighbors, they flee to the west. If the west is worse why flee here? And if they don't know how bad i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:25 PM
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Ah yes, Sharia Law, the hallmark of a progressive and enlightened society. Many Islamic countries scoring among the lowest in human rights by the UN and other international organizations is just racist propaganda. I'm sure rape is almost non-existent in those places. And when it happens the offender is prosecuted harshly and the victims are protected. There are no high burdens of proof for rape, no legal loopholes allowing escape of prosecution if the rapist marries the victim, and no honor kill…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:12 PM
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This isn't from the perspective of a western journalist, did you even read your own article? They're quoting from Nader Elhamessi from the Libyan aid agency, World for Libya, and the ICC. World for Libya is an NGO, a charity registered in the UK to help Libyan people. So very much western. Them calling it a war crime is expected, but doesn't mean that the rapists in Libya are charged. Is the NGO prosecuting them? Of course not. Despite the laws, in practice, the male rapists in many Islamic coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:01 PM
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How is it Islam in practice if it's considered a crime? The rapists are seen as predators, even in the article you provided they say it's a war crime Omg really? Yes from the perspective of a western journalist with the freaking BBC, it is a war crime. They are trying to bring awareness to an issue that happens in the 3rd world, where the rapists are not punished in those societies. Not only that, but in the very same article it says the women are killed out of "love", in an effort to "save" the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:29 PM
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My point is in many places, that is Islam, at least in practice. And it isn't a new or modern thing either. The rapists are not seen as predators, and the women are often punished by death at the hands of male family members.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:07 PM
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Do you understand the difference between saying rapists aren't punished in Islam, and rapists aren't punished in Libya? Honor killings happen in more places than Libya. And I never claimed it was every Islamic country. There are honor killings in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and India too. It's not just Libya If that was the impression you received.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:59 PM
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My experience comes from living in those regions and talking to the people about their customs and laws. As outsiders we are also briefed by authorities there on customs so we don't insult anyone and also are prepared to see things that we don't consider normal in the west. Not sure I would put too much into your wiki sources, but here is the BBC talking about honor killings. It is a very real thing I assure you. Not only is the rapist not charged, but many times the male family members doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:21 PM
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Many cultures that have forced women to cover up have done so because apparently men are deviant sexual predators Which cultures believe this? In Islam women cover up less because men are "sexual predators" and more because they are just victims of their lust. This is why in fundamentalist Islamic cultures when a woman is raped the man who did it isn't blamed, the victim is. In many cases she is killed by her own family to preserve their honor. Men aren't seen as deviant predators, or even held …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:02 PM
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Man I never thought about it this way but that's exactly right for me too. The times I've been most upset about their history is when a girl tried to give the opposite impression of the kind of girl she was, and I found out the truth later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 09:46 PM
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Thanks for explaining the white experience to us lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:20 AM
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Maybe more common for white Americans then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 02:42 AM
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No problem with you asking the question, and the above represents my opinion. I just wanted to correct you that I did not replace attractiveness with average. I used attractiveness because that's what everyone here discusses.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:51 AM
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I didn't replace words, I used them both. Average attractiveness. That is usually what people mean when they discuss the "average" man in here. What were you using to rate men if not attractiveness to women? Were you trying to find the average man in terms of golf abilities? Public speaking? Income? IQ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:31 AM
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There are always at least 2 versions of average that people discuss. Is a man average because he’s okay (like not too good/not too bad) or because 50% of men are over/under him? You are missing the most important definition if we are talking about attractiveness to the opposite sex. Which is what do women define as average. This is important since they are doing the picking. If you subscribe to the OLD 80/20 rule, then the guy who is better than 80% of men is the average. Those below are below a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:38 PM
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So the "progressive" left actually reduced opportunities for women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:02 AM
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“For sexually unrestricted women, the type of man she wants to have a fling with is very different from the type of man she ultimately wants to marry. However, women who are more sexually restricted want a one-night stand who is similar to her ideal husband.” And more importantly, female dual mating strategy confirmed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:43 AM
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I think you don't understand the difference between a right and a privilege, so your entire post is flawed. Men saying they think it should not be this difficult to get a woman, doesn't necessarily mean they believe it is their right to have one. Example: I don't think it should be so difficult to become a homeowner. But I also don't think owning a house is a right. No one owes me a house, i know I will have to work for it. Example #2: I don't think college should be so expensive. I don't think …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:35 PM
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If the first thing you assume when a potential partner says you're "boyfriend material" is "well, she must not be attracted to me then", then TRP has rotted your brain. Gaslighting. The average guy is so starved for affection from women that he won't disregard what seems to be a compliment on its face, without a very good reason for doing so. 12 years ago a random girl told me I had "cute shoes". I will probably never forget that, even though I have had plenty of long and short term relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 06:23 PM
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TIL women have never used the me too movement, police, and HR departments to bring false accusations against men that had a negative effect on the lives of those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:01 AM
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People who win the lottery do not consider it a scam. Ok, and? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 12:28 AM
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Please stop. All those Korean boy bands have great skin and millions of women admire them and don’t think they’re gay. Just be a Korean pop star, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:57 PM
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Imagine being jealous of the attention a mother gives her own children, whether yours or not. Lmao. Ask anyone who’s been a biological parent about that moment their kid yells “I hate you!” in a fit of anger. Kids are gonna be kids. Yeah these can be challenges in regular relationships with biological children. The difference is that usually a mans instincts kick in and he realizes that his compromises are towards a higher goal, the care of his child, his legacy. Asking a man to put up with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 11:23 PM
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Men as a "whole" are stronger and more athletic Aren't these the things that women find attractive? Then why would a straight woman say that women are more attractive than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:04 PM
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Jodi Arias entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:00 PM
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Yes. Were you expecting a scientific criteria for something that is basically preferences and opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:11 PM
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Definitely subjective and depends on the person doing the evaluation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:47 PM
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I am saying there is a more lenient criteria to throw out a prenup contract as unfair and a much more strict criteria to throw out all other contracts as unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 02:17 AM
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By that logic, every single contract is worthless, since it has the potential to be overturned… WRONG. If I want another contract overturned I have to provide evidence that I signed under duress, or was not in healthy mental state. If I tell a judge that my mortgage is unfair and I want out, short of the above, I will be shit out of luck. A prenup can be judged to be unfair, and thrown out, without the requirements stated above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:37 AM
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So are you suggesting that female judges would purposely overturn a prenup in favor of another woman? No. Of course, they have flaws, that doesn’t mean they go out there overturning every prenup they see just because #metoo Biases exist. If my legally binding contract is subject to this, then it is worthless to me. Which was my original argument. Politicians rigging the systems to enrich themselves and their friends isn’t equal to judges overturning prenups, false equivalence. The point was that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:25 AM
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No, not a woman, a judge Women can be judges in the U.S. a federal employee Is this supposed to impress me? Lol. No, because "federal employees" have flaws just like the rest of us. a person with very extensive knowledge on the law. Oh you sweet summer child lol. And I'm sure all the politicians up on capitol hill are just always doing things fair and square. For the men following at home. Don't be gaslight, do your own research. Not saying be fearful of everything, but please do not approach ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 01:03 AM
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Just be Chad, bro. Lol Yes I agree it is simple, but not easy. And probably impossible for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:28 PM
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Sure but now you are agreeing with me that circumstances and experiences shape how these men feel about women. Having sisters helps More attractive men will, on average, have better experiences with women and so will enjoy their company more. It's not simply "ladies men love ladies, so just become a ladies man, duh"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 07:51 PM
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Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 06:53 PM
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I mean if your argument is that boys are just born disliking or liking women and that life experiences and circumstances do not influence this. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:43 PM
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a ladies man type of guy who actually enjoys spending time with women is at a massive advantage, in terms of sexual success. A "ladies man" enjoys spending time with women because women also like him. It is a pleasurable experience all around. If it was one sided where he was all over women with no reciprocity then he would be called a creep, not a ladies man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 02:29 PM
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Or move there and live like a king. Or go back and forth. One of the benefits of remote work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 02:51 AM
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RP men thinking they can get low N waifus in their 30s is one of the funniest revenge fantasies. Foreign women entered the chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 01:54 AM
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Of course. Every woman on PPD is always the exception lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:18 PM
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And a high N woman is not hard for a guy to spot if you know what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:30 PM
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You are definitely in the minority as most women would care about their husbands previous sex life if it included gay sex or hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:04 PM
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Ok so by that same logic it is still the same because a guy can chose not to disclose he saw hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:02 PM
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So for as long as I want? Lol. Thanks babe, that's all I wanted to know. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:10 AM
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Yes but how long can I keep you going? The power is intoxicating. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:06 AM
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I guess you really don't understand the point of entertaining fools. Are you not entertained? LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:04 AM
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I would believe you if you didn't flip flop on your position so much. "He's not a prince.....wait ok he is a prince and now I'm right because in the end he wins her over." Also, you think Disney movie proves anything in the real world. Oh brother. LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 01:00 AM
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And you fell for it LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:52 AM
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The fact that she stayed with him and married him really just emphasis my point even more, that at the end of it women don't give a fuck about what you did - as long as you are good to her NOW, the present overrides the past. You can't seriously expect me to take a fictional, animated film as evidence LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:50 AM
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I'm going to need you to cite your source that he wasn't fully made a prince when all of the wishes the genie granted come true in the film. If royal blood is required to be a prince and Aladdin asked the genie to become a prince that would be part of it, or else the genie is a fraud and there just is no evidence of that in the film. Also, you asked for evidence of a woman getting upset at hearing her man had a different past. That he eventually overcame her initial reaction doesn't change that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:28 AM
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At least I know what I am talking about. Watch the movie, all the (allowable) wishes granted by the genie come true. Aladdin became a prince lol. What you are arguing simply isn't in the movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:16 AM
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It appears that you accidentally mistook a fictional animated film as a serious argument. Very well. and at the time was pretending to be a prince. He was not pretending. He made a wish and the Genie was obligated to actually make him a prince. Jafar wishes to be a genie and is actually turned into a genie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 12:09 AM
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Perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:27 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_(1992_Disney_film)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 11:26 PM
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I literally never said it was impossible lol. But if your comprehension and awareness is lacking this much I can only imagine there is an equally big gap in what you think your relationship is and what it really is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:24 AM
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Given you won’t date progressive women I do give them a chance, and they are excellent placeholders in the short term when I'm in between the girls I really want. But all their talk of how much they will love and respect their man is usually just that, talk. They usually tell on themselves and you can see their true feelings on men when they do something dumb such as using a term like "fragile masculinity" ;
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:03 AM
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Like I said, every woman on PPD is always the exception lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:53 PM
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Wrong. When men encounter "non-traditional" "progressive" women, those women tend to treat them as an adversary due to years of feminist brainwashing. It's not "fragile masculinity" to want your partner to at least like and respect you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 09:20 PM
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Ehhhh not necessarily the case Well I never said or implied that this was a hundred percent always the case. As a matter of fact I know that every woman on PPD is always the exception to the rule lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:45 PM
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Yes it is a shit test, most often used by women, that should be unacceptable to any man. Unfortunately this is a little more difficult to vet out, most men won't know how they're woman would react if she had higher earnings status until it happens and then it's too late. Hell, she probably thinks everything would be fine too but is unaware of how much that would lower her attraction. And if the man starts out for anything less than her when they meet, she is more than likely not interested in st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:27 PM
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I've seen it happen many times too. Many women want a strong man and so if they feel they have too much Leverage over him they will try and push it to see just how strong he is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:13 PM
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Alpha Chads usually are
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 08:06 PM
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it's a bad argument to make up a person Why is this person made up? Is there no one in real life that is this way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:19 PM
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By saying he made up this woman are you saying this type of woman does not exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:08 PM
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-high anxiety -mental health or trauma history Try finding a modern woman who doesn't self identity with many of these.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:53 AM
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Be a good husband and women won’t lose libido for you. Look here men, if she is going to weaponize her libido, and withhold sex as a way to punish you or change your behavior, leave. Just leave. It isn't going to get any better if this is her mentality and what she considers a healthy acceptable way of dealing with conflict. This isn’t a woman problem, it’s a man problem. Yes It is his problem that he is with a woman like this (unfortunately many women are like this). So it is in his best intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 02:48 AM
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, go to a Walmart or grocery store and notice you aren’t seeing a bunch of women with men that look like idris Elba, Absolutely. Because Chad's aren't going grocery shopping with their booty calls lol. The 2am, "hey, you up?" texts are the only times she hears from him. When he's bored because the girls he really wants to date were busy blowing him off. Chad wouldn't be caught dead in public with her. Like a scooter, fun to ride but I don't want anyone I know to see me putting around town on one…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:19 AM
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are attracted to I think that is OPs point. What they are attracted to is someone who is way out of their league. Maybe not for casual sex, but for a long term relationship. If majority of women are aiming for the very top, alot are going to be left out. A majority of women cannot also be the top 10% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:59 PM
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Not a "progressive" but also never thought this. In fact, I think a woman should be more serious and marriage minded in her 20s when she has the most she will ever have to offer a man (her youth). In this way she can also secure the most high value man she ever will as later she has less to offer. So it's a better deal for both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:32 PM
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Believe it or not, there are many areas to get away from the modern world and have a life close to what you describe. Up in the mountains of Colorado, places like Montana, etc. There are places you can go to live a simple life. I am too accustomed to the conveniences of the modern world, but I can understand your position too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:03 PM
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Some of these girls I know who were riding the CC at age 19/20 were sexually frustrated femcels years later. Girls who were 180 lbs. These are not "top girls." Almost every girl acts like this when they're young. There was even a guest on an feminist podcast ("fematics") who admitted she dumped a boyfriend she dated when young thinking she could do better. This is how they act and then they want pity later when their actual SMV/RMV becomes clear to them. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:57 PM
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You as a WOMAN, finding a lawyer and a game developer in OLD has absolutely nothing to do with what the average MAN can find in OLD. Low effort, low IQ post. Thanks, I hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:58 PM
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SNL is mad cringe bro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:22 PM
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Sure and why should any woman value you when you don't live by your own expectations for others? They probably shouldn't, but they do lol. It helps that I don't really discuss these things in real life, and especially not around women. I would probably seem autistic AF. Also women have expectations of me that they don't live up to. They don't mind me having a high paying career, no debt, and good upper body strength. Even though they do not embody these traits! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:20 PM
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To be fair, dudes here have done the same thing when I say I'm only interested in low N men. Well outliers exist, but women are not shamed for their preferences in open society as much as men are. I think it's great, if women weren't all chasing after the same high n men, there would be less incels lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:56 PM
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What does that have to do with women? That's for women to decide. Why should any woman care about your risk? That's for her to decide. You are asking a woman to have a moral standard but then trying to act like this isn’t about morals. I am not asking women to do anything. I am just stating my preferences. A woman can make up her own mind how to act and I will value her accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:41 PM
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Good! Then you should be rooting on women who like casual sex. They serve their purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:27 PM
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Exactly. Tons of no strings attached sex but won't accidentally marry a hoe lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:25 PM
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Do you know who ends up with women lying about the number of partners they have had? Dudes who hold these beliefs. Agreed. That's why I put on a sex-positive, non judgemental mask and let them tell on themselves. And then laugh as they wonder why I never bring them around friends, introduce to family, post on social media, etc. And when they want something more serious I tell them I am just not ready for an LTR (with them).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:22 PM
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As I've said I'm okay with men having preferences. Ok I heard you. Their reasoning sometimes makes them hypocrites. So you aren't ok with their preferences then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:16 PM
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Just not to assume you understand who a person is and what they are capable of I don't presume to know them as individuals. I know statistics and likelihoods. I know risk mitigation. Are all high n count women cheaters? No of course not. Is it more likely? Yes. We use these as shortcuts to avoid wasting time having to evaluate each woman individually and potentially getting taken to the cleaners
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:15 PM
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Because when men here say it's a preference, women try to call it something else (morality, being grossed out) etc. Just to find a way to shame their preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:12 PM
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So I can't comment with a different point of view on why men don't like high n counts? And from a male perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:10 PM
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My attraction to low n women isn't about morals either, it is about risk mitigation and my own self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:07 PM
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I wouldn't call it a moral failing, but I will decide what type of relationship I have with her based on that information. The situation matters. If a rich mother who has nanny's, personal trainers, dieticians, etc looks great soon after giving birth, I am not impressed. If a woman who has access to none of those advantages also looks great soon after giving birth, I will admire that and want to ask her for weight loss tips.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:06 PM
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Women tell other women that if they want a happy relationship they’re better off avoiding players Great, I wish they would. Also, the only people who admire players are men. Women don’t typically admire this, These men don't care about supposed "admiration" from these women, because women give them something much better. They sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:58 PM
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It's not that a man is bad at it, just that it requires much more effort than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:54 PM
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If you want a submissive woman, better be a submissive man. Yeah, because that's how attraction works lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:49 PM
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Man: I don't want a high n-count slut. Women: That makes you insecure Man: Fine, I'd rather date this extremely high n-count escort. Woman: That also makes you insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:37 PM
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I agree with OP as well, neither are top choices but between the 2 would pick a high class escort
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:13 PM
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Sucks. I had an ex-wife who I found out lied to me about something not the same but of similar significance. I couldn't get over it and didn't want to spend the rest of my life resenting her. A marriage is hard enough without adding a shaky foundation to it. On the other hand, seeing the gender dynamics here would probably make any relationship issue alot more tolerable, if only to avoid potentially meeting some of these people IRL lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:46 PM
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I thought he was a virgin when we first fell in love and slept together. Based on what exactly? Did he tell you he was a virgin? Or did you suddenly not care about one of your rules because rules are for Betas?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:36 PM
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I, like the other commenter, simply want the standard to be raised for men as well. Ok yeah I agree. I've only ever been with my husband. But I was like his 4th partner. So much for raising the standard for men as well lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:31 PM
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Ok sure. But guys are becoming smart enough to see through those shaming tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:53 AM
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I mean so what? A guy says one thing and someone thinks it's something else. Either way guys have an aversion to it and that's just the way it is. It's obvious it upsets you that guys are this way but it's not gonna change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:45 AM
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Half correct. We find their lack of morals yucky. I mean really, it reflects poorly on us, and so much of the value of a man is how much he is respected by others. Yeah it feels yucky, but for a very real reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:39 AM
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The point is to try and level the playing field so that no one side has an overwhelming advantage, bc yeah, it's human nature to look out for personal short term benefits over long term societal benefits. And right now it's a race to the bottom. It's not just women taking advantage. Men who realize the game is rigged are looking out for themselves too, why care about a society that doesn't care for you. We aren't heading towards a very good place, so I'm just trying to have my fun and hope it do…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:30 AM
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Now you understand. And I believe that things are only going to get much worse. Definitely for the average man, of course. But also for the rest of us, given enough time, if a balance cannot be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:16 AM
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I agree that is part of the problem. But men have always been thirsty, so something else must have changed. We will have to look deeper if we want to find a root cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:09 AM
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Are you saying men have no self control and if a woman wants to have sex with him he has to have sex. Not really about self control, it's the circumstance men are in. Take a man you have much respect for, now starve him for a week. When he grabs the first food item placed in front of him, we wouldn't say he has no self control, because we understand it is only due to the circumstances he is in. This is the situation most modern men are in, they are starved for affection. Now you can say he would…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:04 AM
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Only after the women selects them for sex. Women are the sexual selectors. We can argue whether it should he that way or whether it's fair, but that's just the way it is. Men can be turned on by and happy with a wider range of women. But it's the woman who decides if she will be associated with a certain man, based on perceived benefit to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:21 PM
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But most men don’t really care about morals or character do they? Many men do, this usually manifests as an aversion to high n-count women and single moms for serious relationships. Her poor choices reflect bad morals, poor character.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 11:12 PM
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So when she is ready to settle, she is happier when she finds her beta bucks who works extra hard for her to "compensate" for her higher attractiveness. She is happier when it's Alpha fucks, beta bucks. In that order. This post wasn't the flex on Black Pill that you thought it would be lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:25 PM
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The only "spin" here is you trying to make this an anti black pill proof but as many others here have pointed out, it isn't. Black pill doesn't say men don't prefer attractive women. And women being happier with less attractive man doesn't mean she will always be ok with that arrangement. Just that at that particular snap shot in time, she prefers it now to the neurosis she feels if her man is too hot for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:12 PM
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Chronically single doesn't mean celibate. Guys know these girls are out sleeping around living their best life. So when he is ready to settle down, has own place, car, savings, etc like you mentioned. He is not looking for her, he is looking for a younger model.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:55 PM
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It says the men are compensating because they are less attractive. That's different than just being a "good husband".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:51 PM
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Most men complaining about not getting sex are really just complaining that they cant get laid. Um, what is the difference if I may ask lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 10:43 PM
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A dating app where users select mates of the opposite sex based mainly on their pictures? What does that have to do with measuring attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 07:03 PM
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Being called husband material by a woman you are being fucked by is a compliment If she is fucking him and calling him husband material then that means he was lucky enough to meet her thresholds for BOTH. This does not however, refute the OP that one is better than the other. Example: Having both a five and ten dollar bill is better than just having either one. This does not refute the fact that one of those bills is more valuable than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:09 PM
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I agree and what is interesting to me is that it seems most men realize this though. They know that seeing themselves as the fuck boy she can't live without is a compliment, but they also know that women she things just the opposite. A man would not call a woman a good fwb type of girl instead of a relationship type girl unless he was trying to insult her. Are men more introspective than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:42 PM
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Responding to an incentive does not make you a child. So men are only incentivized by pussy? How does the first point, connect to your point? How does saying that men can be and often do act in a way that they think will get them laid, a fact which shouldn't really be news to anyone here. How does saying that this happens, mean that they are "only" incentivized by pussy. The rest of your response is full of the same, utterly ridiculous and on the spectrum thought processes. So I won't address th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:27 PM
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Teachers reward good behavior, So children. Do you think all students are children? What a ridiculous mindset. All men are children, according to this subreddit. No one made that ridiculous claim but you. Here's a hint. Responding to an incentive does not make you a child. People go to work because they are paid, people do things for people who are nice to them, people pay their taxes because not going to jail is a great incentive. Why do you think that only children are given and respond to inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 08:41 PM
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Teachers reward good behavior, parents reward good behavior, men reward good behavior. When you go to a store and the salesperson is helpful, you may decide to later come back to that store. This is rewarding good behavior. It's common and perfectly normal and I don't understand why you think this type of action dehumanizes anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:40 PM
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Being sweet and soft requires trust, and I think a lot of men either weren’t taught or ignore this fact Young men are learning not to trust women. TRP, discussions with other men online, our own interactions with women, etc. Shows us the true nature of women. With me too, etc. It's not worth trying to help women in anyway, and we know if we do it won't be appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:57 PM
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Idk where you’re getting that 80% number from You must be new here, welcome. I wouldn’t take this sub as a good indicator of average people in society. Agreed. But sometimes the extremes can give you an idea of where we are all headed. The worst of us just got there first. Most men and women end up married (and re-married lol) at some point, so they’re all finding people to fill their “criteria.” Married yes, but happy no. At least women constantly rate themselves as unhappier than in the past. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 12:10 AM
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The fact that women rate 80% of men below average, and many women on here say that most men today aren't husband material, makes me believe women are not easily finding the relationships they really want. But still probably content to share Alphas. I wouldn't consider myself a Chad, maybe a 7/10 looks, great career. But I can find tons of women who meet my looks threshold (single mothers, etc) to string along for easy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:59 PM
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So MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 03:51 AM
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Pair Bonding Species: male and female more equivalent in size (Think of animals that you cant tell gender vs the ones you can tell with a naked eye) This isn't true for the average human. -women attracted to mates who are more like themselves, than their opposites Not attracted to similar or opposite, attracted to higher status than themselves -females look for traits in males better suited for equal roles equal parenting unit The prevalence of single mother's now that women became free of socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 03:41 AM
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but if they lower their standards enough, they'll have options. I mean, even Arnold Schwarzenegger cheated...with a potato looking woman. So the average man can have options if he lowers his standards enough. But a potato woman get have sex with a rich and famous Arnold Schwarzenegger lol. Great argument for why women have more options to cheat. Isn't it men who are typically the ones who will do shit like have literally two families (wives, kids, houses, everything) in two different cities or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 03:18 AM
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They're not for me then. Fair enough. I know for myself and many other men I know, don't really have the luxury to be this discriminating with modern women. If I want casual sex I will have to overlook some red flags, pretend to be interested in an LTR, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:45 PM
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I've learned to not ask right away or ever since some will be offended by the question and others will just lie to look higher value. I get better indications by pretending to be open minded and let her tell on herself, which they always do because they assume it's high value behavior since they like men who are studs. This only happens once they are sure you aren't one of those "insecure losers" who don't want to be with the town bike.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 06:14 PM
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Yes Ma'am I do. And I welcome that oppression of women. Scorched Earth policy. If I can't have choice she can't either
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:32 AM
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You have complete power to avoid pregnancy. You have complete control over your body. That's what these rights are about No because a woman can accidentally get pregnant but still end it. A man can accidentally get a woman pregnant but not have a say in ending his responsibility. So both can make careless mistake but only women get an extra chance to save themselves. Men don't. Forcing a woman to bear a rapist's baby is the most evil thing I can imagine. I heard that is only like 1% of abortions…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:13 AM
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Yeah uhhh we're talking about women, not you. If your body could be taken hostage by a rapist's fetus maybe you'd understand So I'm going to be 100% real right now. I could give a shit about aborted babies. I joined the pro-life movement for the very petty reason to take away women's choice in the matter since men don't have a choice. So for me it's not about women, it's about me. If I can't have a choice, no one can.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:46 AM
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The pro-choice movement is about avoiding pregnancy, not parenthood Distinction without a difference from men's point of view. As it avoids both pregnancy and parenthood effectively. Also, abortions obviously benefit men. Yes but it still isn't my decision, just women's. Unless you'd rather society forced you to marry and financially support the first girl you banged forever I can already be forced to pay child support. Banning abortions will not force men to marry baby mommas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:32 AM
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I don't think financial abortion will ever be a thing for men. For that reason, me and many other men would rather just join the pro-life movement and take that right away from women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 02:53 AM
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Does not = Asian people are doing better why can’t African American. No, not ALL Asian people are doing better. Specific groups of Asians are doing better. Not saying all Asians are doing better than whites. Just that the average person who self identifies as Asian is doing better than the average person that self identifies as white.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:38 AM
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I'm not saying either of that. These surveys where they get data people identify themselves as Asian. I am not selecting who is Asian, the people themselves are. And point being an average of those who identify as Asians are beating the average of those who identify as white. A few asian doing better than whites does not = Asians are doing better that whites . It's not just a few Asians. It is enough to pull the entire average of all Asians above the average of whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:36 AM
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Thank you for your unsolicited ad hominem fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:30 PM
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Apology accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:24 PM
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dude, you didn’t even try to argue back The text next to the vertical lines is the nonsense that you posted. The text below that are my rebuttals proving you wrong. If you are new to reddit welcome, this is how it works. this is such lazy debating. Just because I make it look easy, does not mean that I am lazy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:16 PM
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he wasn’t talking specifically about academia or news networks; so this is really just a straw man. When OP said: is due to indoctrination pushed under the guise of 'education' Do you guys actually read these things before typing? first of all, nobody is gaslighting you by stating their opinions. use that word correctly. Please see above lmao. And nobody is gaslighting by stating an opinion? Nobody? So every instance of gaslighting is only done by stating fact? Too easy. Too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:02 PM
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Black people: You know, we have some serious problems today. Fragile white people: But I never made anyone pick mah cotton! Asians as a minority have been historically oppressed as well. Maybe not to the same extent as blacks but definitely treated as less than white, put in concentration camps, etc. In the U.S. and yet they outperform whites in this country in education and earnings. But if you are honestly stupid enough to just point to the past and some vague generalized boogeyman of "systemi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:57 PM
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it’s funny because we can say the same thing about trp and the manosphere in general. Really? So manosphere ideas have infiltrated academia in the same manner as radical feminism? I can take classes on men's issues or even speak on men's issues without being labeled an incel or a misogynist at most major universities? So manosphere ideas are regularly pushed in mainstream media such as CNN, NBC, popular magazines, etc. This "both sides do it" is a gaslighting technique designed to prevent ideas …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:49 PM
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Men: You know, men have some serious problems today. Women: But history! How things were 50, 100, etc. years ago, when most dating age men and women weren't even alive, is of little relevance to the issues people face today. And honesty just reinforces the OPs point that women will do absolutely anything, including studying ancient history, to avoid acknowledging mens problems today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:39 PM
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Both genders do it. I believe this is OPs point. Maybe there are examples of both genders "playing oppression Olympics" but only one side (women) have this view reinforced and validated by society at large. While society mostly ignores or even makes fun of the plight of men. So yeah sure, both genders do it. But that statement still misses the entire point and even reinforces the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:35 PM
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So you're a married woman but he should have tried to seduce you instead of saying mean things? Lmao You’re out of the game before you’re even in, man! This is hilarious. Just assuming some stranger online should be "competing" for you. Hurry and get married fellas, and your wife will be cruising PPD for more male attention lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 02:41 PM
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Well exactly. That isn't the same as men not having agency. Men are going to choose to be human trash. That's like, just your opinion man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:15 PM
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Doesn't matter, had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:55 PM
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dON't mEn HAvE aGeNCy? Who says men don't have agency? These are average and/or low value men who women only see as valuable for a relationship not for casual sex. They want casual sex though, so they are taking responsibility for their desires by taking steps and compromising (entering a relationship they don't really want) to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:23 PM
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men naturally want to impregnate as many women as possible while women want to be impregnated by the best man. By that knowledge, wouldn’t that put men who want long term monogamous relationships in beta male category? No. By nature I want to eat as many tasty and calorie dense junk food as I can. It tastes good, and sends feel good chemicals to my brain. I choose to not be a slave to my natural urges, that doesn't make me a beta male. So if a man desires monogamy, wouldn’t that automatically ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:49 PM
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The depressive and self destructive spiral comes from the fact that the women makes it subtly clear her attraction to him is diminished after a job loss and he has only a short span of time to fix things before she ejects from the marriage because "he changed so much after he lost his job."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:40 PM
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Women can abort. Men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:04 PM
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If you are my friend and you need my help I help you So there is a reciprocity. To receive your help they first have to be considered a friend by you, and of course there are requirements on their part to be called your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:45 PM
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Rights are inalienable Incorrect. If rights are based on which country you are in, then they can easily be taken away. Examples of how this could happen would be the U.S. government collapsing or an American woman moving to Afghanistan. Suddenly "inalienable" rights are now gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:01 PM
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Casual sex / hookups are not pump and dump. In those cases they both know what's up and that it's just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:41 PM
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8% did crave it 8% expected relationship to happen. 40% wanted a relationship to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:33 PM
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Assumption of a female engaging sex being a 5 or 6 is not only grossly generalizing/objectifying 80/20 rule. Me and other men here have seen it with our own eyes. All kinds of women hook up with all kinds of guys. Incels would like a word with you lol. Ugly girls may hook up with hot guys 100% agree. A cheap and easy snack for a HVM. and vice versa Hot girls hook up with ugly guys? Is he rich? Is he famous? Is she a literal sex addict? We can all point to exceptions of course, doesn't disprove t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:24 PM
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But how can you be so sure that they all got pumped and dumped? I never said they were all pumped and dumped. Your OP was about hookups in college, and a large portion of women in college by your numbers (42.9%) wanted a traditional romantic relationship instead. For all we know that's just the regular way to vet partners. You have some casual sex and if you are compatible with each other you start to go on dates. I agree with that, but doesn't mean women are happy about that. Again, by your pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:17 PM
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So women are dumb sluts for wanting to have a relationship with a guy/having deep feelings for a guy they enjoy having sex with? These are mostly mid level females (5s and 6s) trying to snag a HVM (9s and 10s) with sex. That absolutely does make them dumb and sluts. The girls aren't at fault for being manipulated with sex. They are manipulating themselves into thinking they have a shot with guys orders of magnitude higher than them. It's a classic move of many narcissists, and we all know how ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 02:57 PM
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Only 4.4% of men and 8.2% of women (6.45% of participants) expected a traditional romantic relationship as an outcome, while 29% of men and 42.9% of women (36.57% of participants) ideally wanted such an outcome Did you bother to read what you posted? We can see from this section of your OP that what women expected and what women wanted is not the same thing. They want a romantic relationship but instead only got sex. Hence pump and dump. 42.9% of women wanted a traditional romantic relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 02:40 PM
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I expect the modern woman to be absolute shit in a relationship. So when she is, she actually isn't, because I expected it. I expect to be fired from my job for showing up late. My boss did fire me, but actually, that means I'm not fired because that's what I expected. I expect this to go over your head. So when you don't understand it, you actually do, because I expected you to not understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 02:16 PM
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The fact that they EXPECT to be pumped and dumped, doesn't make them any less pumped and dumped. This is exactly right. Or put another way: I don't want her to monkey branch, but I expect her to. So when she does monkey branch, she actually didn't? Because I already knew she would? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 01:45 PM
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they are "pumping and dumping" their own friend group when they're young, they just simply remain friends with them afterwards. I am not saying all casual sex was pump and dump. Of course sometimes they are friends at first and sometimes remain friends afterwards. Pump and dump still exists though, enough to be complained about and feared by women. The guy who dumped me when I was 18 Ok so at university, which is again, a small slice of the overall adult sexual marketplace, one where even women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 01:38 PM
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That's why they pump and dump in college. The men that can pump and dump, HVM, will do so as long ad they have the opportunity too. And they do so with female 5s and 6s who keep trying to punch above their weight. That's why the "they don't pump and dump because it would affect them socially, with their friend group" is utter bullshit. Of course a HVM (9s and 10s) will not pump and dump the females in his friend group (other 9s and 10s socially, economically, and attractiveness). He is pumping a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 01:17 PM
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So, first off: TRP has no idea about casual sex. Why? Do you think TRPers were born that way or do you think they had years of socialization, dating, and other interactions with women? As a matter of fact most of TRP will tell you their views were formed from interactions with women. As TRPers don't like having female friends (or just generally being socially active) they don't get a full view of the picture. Again, are you operating under the assumption that most TRPers were born with those vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:49 PM
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Yes of course she will get older and that's ok. But most men would like to at least get to enjoy some of her best years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:03 PM
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liked masculine locker room talk? Yeah, and anyone who regularly partakes can tell the difference between what is normally light hearted ribbing VS a guy who definitely got butt hurt like you. I thought you masculine men Oh now it makes sense, but seriously dude I have no problem with LGBT so your anger is misplaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:33 AM
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I'm twice the man you are. Being mistaken for a woman online. Not to insult, but as an honest mistake, wouldn't hit a nerve so hard as to illicit this response from a normal, confident, well-adjusted dude. Lol oh brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:17 AM
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Almost all the advice that women give is for the sole benefit of helping men be better simps or beta bucks to further female imperative. I'm not talking about things your mother told you. I'm talking about things your female friends can teach you. Mother's advice to their sons is intended to make them simps and beta cucks? This is really a horrible thing to admit. That mother's would put the imperatives of women she doesn't even know over the happiness of her own son. Like some men have suspecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 12:07 AM
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"in return he gets a partner who only fucks him to keep him around" Hmm.. almost like you need more than just a yes-sir bang maid to get married to huh.. A relationship is pathetic if all a man looks for in it is sex, housekeeping and a baby oven. Data: women suck. Women: Y'all just need to pick better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 04:42 AM
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I am not blaming men. I am saying they are justified to call out women who lie since their hypocrisy is out in the open for all to see. They say incels have unattractive personalities but then date attractive men with personalities just as bad or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 03:11 PM
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People who claim the 6,6,6 thing must not know many women. It's just observably false. And then... One of my first girlfriends left me for a tall basketball player and essentially entered a "simping" relationship with him unlike anything she had with me How many times can you contradict yourself in one comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:55 PM
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Backing with what? We don't get any help with stalkers or sexual assault. In fact a girl I know was killed a week ago by her stalker after the police ignored several pleas for help from her informing them that she was being continuously stalked. As compared to how male victims of stalking and sexual assault are treated? Hint: They are taken even less seriously, it's basically night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 02:52 PM
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they think women intentionally sniff them out like bloodhounds. Some men think this because many women tell incels it's not their looks it's their personality that women find repulsive. So they think "oh well if it isn't my looks how come these guys with huge personality flaws (selfish, rude, etc.) get all the ladies but I do not. How can she tell that I am misogynistic before I've even said 2 words but still ends up with abuser after abuser"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:55 PM
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Okay? I didn't claim to run counter to what TRP assets. But in OP you said... TLDR: Men don’t seem to understand what triggers arousal for women. Most men in here are RP, so the men in here do understand what triggers arousal for women, being in the top 20% (green light). So who are you trying to convince? I think many of the Black Pillers and "incels" actually fall into the Yellow category, not the Red, So either way, not arousing to women at face value. They know this. I know this. We know thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:16 PM
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The crux of my OP is that the majority of men are yellow So the visuals of up to 70% of men do not arouse women. 80/20 rule confirmed, plus or minus 10%. It's blah. Eh. Meh. Blank stare. Invisible. What gamers call an NPC. 70% of men are inherently invisible to women, and will have to go to extra lengths to just be noticed. This is almost the exact opposite of men who can be aroused by a wide range of women. These dudes would likely do better in person. I haven't used OLD in years but that seems…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:07 PM
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This roughly translates into a red light, yellow light, or green light. 🔴: Where the red light means we will not let him into our orbit because he looks repulsive to us. 🟡: Where the yellow light means he’s invisible to us and unarousing to us unless he does something behaviorally to trigger our arousal at which point we will let him into our orbit. 🟢: Where the green light means we will easily let this man into our orbit, but he could fuck it up by being behaviorally inept/unattractive/repulsiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:00 PM
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The OP was the example sorry, not the top comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:31 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/jdwz05/looks_matter_but_if_you_cant_find_even_one_woman/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share The Original Post
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:14 AM
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Saying that incels don't get laid because women can sense their bad personality, sexism, etc. Yet studies show women do love dark triad, deviant personality types
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:08 AM
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maybe it’s time for it to crash and burn for good. I don't disagree, was just answering their question of what is wrong with declining birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:19 PM
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Because I would like to retire one day without the economy being in shambles
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:15 PM
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We get mad when we see women as a whole not doing this actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:19 PM
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Yes exactly. And if more women did this, and chose actual HVM based on things like character, ambition, intelligence, etc. Instead of dark triad fuckboys who give them tingles it would solve a lot of problems. We would have a lot less single parent homes for starters and that would manifest in many more advances (lower crime rates, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:18 PM
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That's why I said "you seem to think" So now you are a mind reader? Oh brother lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:34 PM
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you seemed to think that marriage stats reflect the current reality and not the reality of a few years ago. Nope, I never said that either, try again. When it's only been 30 years that women can have their own credit card Women could get credit cards since the Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974, so longer than 30 years lol And even so, are you saying that young women today (age 20- 35) are not getting married? Just these old broads who couldn't get credit cards in the early 70s? Double lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 08:15 PM
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I didn't say anything was instant. Are you replying to the right person? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:46 PM
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Yes, only 20% of women who were once single, are now married to men who make less than them. Not that difficult to follow but I guess there is always that one person who has trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:45 PM
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Not sure why you thought that needed explaining but yes I agree. However, all married women were once single women. And from that population, they out-earn men yet only a minority of those who become married do so with a man who earns less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:27 PM
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We have no real data that says women have always gotten bored of sex with their partner faster than men in very different cultural settings. Well that's why I said "I think". I was not intending my speculation to be seen as scientific evidence, but it is fun to discuss these things, at least for me anyway. I think we are in danger of falling into one of the common flaws with things like TRP. TRP doesn't claim to be an exact science with rigorously tested hypothesis. I think most TRPers intuitive…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:11 PM
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That's true, but I think it might be the female version of high risk males. Like, many high risk males die off, but the few that do get successful get an amplified boost in an evolutionary sense that makes up for those that are lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:23 PM
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Because men aren't being forced to give anything when it comes to having quotas for women. Wrong. If there are 10 spots on a board and you mandate that 5 spots must go to women no matter if other men are more qualified, then you just took something from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:03 PM
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Well young single women out earn single men. And yet only 20% are married to men who earn less. So women by and large are not marrying men who make less, so telling guys to marry a woman who makes more equal or more money is a fools errand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:58 PM
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why women become more sexually dissatisfied with the same partner more quickly than men. There doesn't seem to be any obvious or intuitive reproductive reason for this or evolutionary advantage. Because women are not as physically strong as men, which was especially important pre-civilization when you just took what you wanted. They also were historically not as educated, or high status by means of occupation, etc. Really the only way for a woman to "level up" in life was to find a better man. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:46 PM
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Um that’s not true because currently more than 20% of wives out earn their husbands. 20%. And there's no telling if they got engaged/married in that circumstance vs. the dynamic changing after marriage. And given the higher number of women in higher education, not to mention affirmative action/gender quotas in the workforce/education? I would say maybe half that number, 10% could have got married where the woman explicitly made more than the man. Often men are told to just date better, don't dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:08 PM
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They are angered and betrayed beyond belief that you shared such INTIMATE and PERSONAL things with complete strangers before sharing with them. This isn't a very good analogy because guys aren't biologically wired to seek out as many intimate thoughts and feelings from people as they can. And Society does not judge men on their ability to pry deep dark secrets out of as many women as they can. As a matter of fact, most guys would see it as a huge benefit if you went to a professional with these …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:57 PM
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If that's what women consider mentally stimulating it's no wonder they need gender quotas lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:36 AM
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You know she's operating off more than a line or this would never happen. Assuming there's also a pic? Ahh yes, the pic of a hot guy was the mentally stimulating part lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:31 AM
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Wow I must have really struck a nerve lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:34 AM
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If you're going to insist on using anecdotal evidence, then I'm going to provide anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Please continue to do so, and I will continue to laugh at how it is always so predictable and out of touch with men's reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:30 AM
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Every woman on PPD is the exception to what us men observe in real life. And they all know a 5'0" balding Indian janitor who is quite the ladies man. Never fails lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 02:18 AM
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No, because my own observations are not scientific studies. And focusing on single women in my age group who are taking active steps to date is pretty much the demographic I care about anyway, so in that sense I am sampling the correct population.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:19 PM
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I do tend to trust my eyes and everyday experiences, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 05:47 PM
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So the breakdown happens because many women state this requirement on their dating profiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:48 PM
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Until the wall hits, then it seems they all want the traditional men back
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:46 PM
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If you want traditionalism, be prepared *to look for foreign women. *fixed it for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 07:42 PM
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Ironically, this is why women hate "mansplaining" they seem unable to follow a logical argument until it is broken down elementary style for them. And then they get pissed because it sounds condescending. Well no shit, I had to word it like I would to a 6 year old before you would acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 01:30 AM
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http://udallasnews.com/2020/02/12/strength-without-stereotypes-toxic-masculinity-response/ "Contemporary examples of toxic masculinity could include problems such as “mansplaining,” when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending manner." https://www.gottman.com/blog/robbins-men-must-stop-mansplaining/ "In the case of Robbins, he seems to have epitomized the kind of male dominance that the #MeToo movement is trying to combat. Instead of listening, he mansplained." "He challenged her …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:03 AM
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Mansplaining is an action. Toxic masculinity refers to harmful societal standards which are placed on men. If mansplaining was just an action, and not an indictment against the way men are (masculinity) then it would just be called peoplesplaining. Men tend to be logical and action-oriented. To us, it is more important to be able to quickly resolve issues than worry about feelings. So when a man is explaining something to someone it's because they don't seem to understand and the man wants to br…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:41 PM
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the narrative that fds women are damaged, and my point is thats not “fds” women its ALL women Red pill confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 03:27 PM
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I definitely had some natural advantages..I am 6-2 and was a former athlete Lol well that certainly changes things
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:41 PM
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Rich girl at a fancy buffet dinner wondering why the homeless and starving man outside chooses to eat food from the trash. " you have to filter, not all mushrooms are poisonous. Go forage, homeless man and hope you find some mushrooms that are not poisonous" says the rich girl between bites of filet mignon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 08:34 PM
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That would solve it sure but it's not going to happen. Baby boomers are the largest voting cohort in the U.S. then you have to and then a large portion of the younger cohorts to vote to inflict this misery on their loved ones parents grandparents Etc. Which will also be even more difficult considering that young people tend to be more liberal, Progressive, Let's help everyone. And older people tend to be more conservative and vote more to take care of themselves over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 06:06 PM
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Its nice to believe that you will peak later but for the majority of men this is not the case. Pussy will never be easier and "cost" (time/money/effort) less than during your late teens and early 20s. Apex fallacy. The men you are talking about, who peaked in high school/college and got pussy "easier' are definitely, 100% not the men who are being discussed here. We are talking about the late bloomers if it wasn't obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 05:17 AM
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I get your point, but on the flip side, let's not pretend that a guy who got asked out by a fat girl in high school, said no, and now 10 years later she's become fitness obsessed and is built like a bikini model, wouldn't also potentially "change his tune". That is quite different. She was fat and is now a fitness model, quite the change. On the other hand, he is a mild mannered nerd with a good work ethic who was destined for a good job and a comfortable salary, always was. He didn't change at …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 05:08 AM
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It's common for men to quote Marilyn Monroe? Maybe as joke but surely not "common" as in anywhere near how much women do. And with full sincerity lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 04:53 AM
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Wait until the only people having children want to have children, so eventually the problem fixes itself. There is no reason to believe that the problem will fix itself. When people have the choice, many are not interested. Given the increased life expectancy is in prosperous countries, once you have too many retirees drawing from the system (Medicare, social security) and too few young workers paying into the system (taxes) you are in a pickle. The elderly retired, many who are a childless, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 01:39 AM
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Your not necessarily wrong. But I'm going with the two wrongs don't make a right, get more bees with honey school of thought. Appeasement never works with women, it just makes things worse. As a matter of fact, not holding women accountable is a big cause of the shit show that is going on. Women see niceness as weakness. The nicer you are to them the more they resent you, the more they will push to get more and more, just to see what they can get away with. Just to see how far you will let them …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:01 PM
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Can't really relate on either side lmao Interesting. I feel it's pretty normal for people to be treated differently depending on their perceived value, looks, and abilities in our modern (shallow) society but I understand there could be some closed off societies, groups, etc where this is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 09:05 PM
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Treating not as good is one thing- especially if it's a 2-way street. Nothing abusive, I am just the typical "bad boyfriend" to them that girls love complaining about. Doesn't always text back, answer the phone, etc. Like "oh sorry I'm bad about texting". But if they could see how I act with a girl I see as more in my range, she would probably call me a simp lol. But my real question is this. How do you find these LVW? Doesn't it take time and effort to even get with a kinda lower class of woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:24 PM
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So both men and women are deluding themselves but rationalizing it differently. To your main point though, I can speak for myself and other men I know, I treat women I think are not at my level for an LTR and just want to have sex with much differently (not as good) as a woman I see as meeting my threshold for LTR/marriage. The later is just much more rare and has much more competition for her that I don't have as much chances with them. From the outside looking it, it might seem like I'm choosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:54 PM
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My argument is that you have to be dense not to see plenty of men out there who are unavailable for relationships, no matter how high value a woman is. So when women stop being so "dense" maybe this technique will stop being used as it won't work anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 06:39 PM
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Here come all the PPD women who all just happen to be exceptions to every rule men see outside of reddit in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/21 11:58 PM
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What does him being a 10 mean. Or him being a 7 mean. Oh brother. 10 > 7. A 10 is more attractive than a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:40 AM
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I didn't realize Saved by the Bell was targeted at women only. Nothing is black or white, but I would say that a teen drama that explores social dynamics, who's dating who, etc. with an "ohhhhhhhh" track on q everytime someone "gets a kiss". I would say that is targeting young girls more than young boys. Of course the " media lied to young boys about the true nature of women" is much bigger than any individual show, and when you look at it, most of the examples given of "it's right in front of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:33 AM
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My point is men can gain perspective by engaging a wider interest. Alot of men would agree they would have more perspective by wider interests. That isn't what they mean when they say they felt lied to by greater society though. The "lied to" part was that these messages were specifically included in media not targeted at them, while being missing from media that was targeted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 02:09 AM
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Obese. Or if she has some curves it's ok if they are in right places (hourglass). Physical attributes however, are secondary to my non-physical deal breakers: Must be feminine Must be respectful (of me and herself)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 05:39 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:40 PM
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Men get together online to share notes and realize we've all had very similar experiences with women. Because this is counterproductive to their interests, women will resort to gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:38 PM
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My argument is not that it is 100% or nearly 100% biology, so my argument can weather a few exceptions. Your theory cannot. Guess you were off taking a shit while they were teaching science. Taking a shit for at least 12 years of grade school? Guess we shouldn't take anything you say seriously huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:16 PM
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The Hazda don't exhibit a preference for height Hey I found an obscure hunter-gatherer tribe that has no real bearing on sexual relations in the developed world where most reddit posters are from. I guess I just disproved your rule. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:45 PM
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Women assign as much value to attractiveness as men. When people say men are more visual, it means that it is the primary factor men look for in women, versus women who also want a top level attractiveness man who is also top level social status, career/income, intelligence, well dressed/fashionable, etc. Men care about these things but to women a man must have them all, at top 20% level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 08:39 PM
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I meant that the situation for those isis guys is way way waaaaaayyyyy worse than your average left behind guys in the west I'm an American, but I have spent a significant amount of time in parts of the Middle East and I understand and agree with you here. I agree that sexless guys in the West do not have it as bad relative to the impoverished in the third world. But when these guys scroll through their Instagram full of hot girls they will never have a chance with, I promise you they are not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:15 PM
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I never said incels would radicalize from being poor. And besides poor like anything else is relative. Do you think these sexless dudes in the west are comparing their lives to the third world poor living in mud huts? Hell no. If they if they did they would be a lot more grateful and complain less. In the third world people are radicalized for lack of basic necessities. In the first world you just move up Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Their definition of a good life may differ, but feeling like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 08:52 PM
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Ok so disenfranchised young men who feel left out of society (sexually or career-wise) radicalized by promises of solving those problems for them (return to traditional gender roles where they can have a mate or in case of ISIS as you state "food, money, hope for the future"). Yeah I guess those don't sound similar at all ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 08:04 PM
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Ok thank you for explaining that to me. I still disagree and think that this is even worse. To discuss the problem but for society (women are a big part of society) to not be able to acknowledge that it is a problem or to be able to acknowledge the causes if those are attributed to women. Without being able to acknowledge the problem or its causes, you can't really begin to solve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:58 PM
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I'm definitely not saying don't discuss the problem or say it's a problem etc. Your OP seems to say the exact opposite but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:21 PM
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I didn't say they were incels or that it is 100% exactly the same, obviously the problems and culture of the western world and middle east are different. But promising young men virgins if they blow themselves up wouldn't be very effective if they were already feeling sexually successful in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:06 PM
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men who are taking things too far by making toxic choices because they think that it will lead to more sexual success. But that's the point, it actually does lead to more reproductive success. That's why women complain about their asshole boyfriends to the nice beta simps who will never get a chance with them. Well not until she is a 30+ single mother in need of a bailout.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 05:49 PM
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Yeah especially when anti-depressants list suicide as a possible side effect lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:10 PM
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This right here. Basically what ISIS did for young men in failed states in the middle east. Just replace pushing for a return to fundamental Islam with pushing a return to traditional western values.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:05 PM
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Also, more women than men seem to have kids. 80/20 rule confirmed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 09:06 PM
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It is if we are discussing sexual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:55 PM
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Wouldn’t I just be creating more low value women who have higher N counts? No. Give women a little credit here, they are making a choice which makes them lower value, unless you are raping them the decision is theirs. I don't outright lie, but I can be ambiguous. And it's ok to change your mind, as any woman will tell you. But if I'm not sleeping with them someone else is so I do what I have to. Take care of yourself man, no one else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:23 PM
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Society is not, and will not ever attack women, so you better hope they are not the root cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:10 PM
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It's men and women not taking responsibility for their sexual urges. And society punishing one more than the other. By giving more lenient sentences society says women have less responsibility for their actions than men do. Women on here will do quadruple backflips to avoid anything that doesn't portray women as victims
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 01:28 AM
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I have no kids, I have near perfect credit. I'm good at taking responsibility. Do you think having kids and good credit are the only things someone would say take responsibility for? LMAO. You can add me to the long list of people telling you to take responsibility. Until you fix whatever it is about you that's prompting these responses telling you to take responsibility you will continue to receive them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:40 AM
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That actually has nothing to do with men constantly telling you personally to take responsibility. If you find a common denominator in literally half the population that means you have reduced it down enough. That's why it's easy to say multiple men telling you personally to take responsibility is specifically an issue caused by you. Violence against women or violence in general as a much larger more complicated problem that would be too difficult to solve here. But multiple been telling you spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:31 AM
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I don't hear that phrase very often real life either said to myself or other people, men and women. If you constantly receive this as feedback I would definitely recommend you do some soul-searching because the common denominator in that is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:18 AM
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Then why did you mention a bunch of hypotheticals in your original post instead of just quoting the conversation that happened where someone told you to take responsibility an asked people for their opinion on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:15 AM
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I'm telling you what men mean in general when they say that. Only because you seem to be confused by the difference between being responsible for something and taking responsibility for something. If you want to know why a specific guy in a specific situation told specifically you to take responsibility then you're going to have to ask that specific guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 12:05 AM
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Female child molesters serve less time than male child molesters
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:40 PM
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If someone is a victim of a crime, aren't they already "taking responsibility" because it is inescapable? They have to deal w the trauma Feeling the consequences of your own actions is not the same thing as taking responsibility for your actions. Taking responsibility is thinking about what you did wrong and what you can do different to prevent those consequences from happening again. When men say take responsibility for your actions they mean stop dating assholes after you become a single mom. …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:38 PM
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It's like saying "I want someone who loves food but doesn't really eat", it's contradicting and unrealistic. No for men it's like saying "I want a woman who is a foodie but not a fat disgusting pig who has no self control and engorges herself on food 24/7"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 02:15 AM
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You wrecked him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 11:10 PM
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so why do some women choose the feminine men? I just told you why, because he did not make an absolute statement. Also you are quoting him saying it is the most important and taking that to mean other qualities don't matter or that if 100% of women don't follow that rule then it is invalid. He said it's the most important thing. Some women choosing based on other traits doesn't make that incorrect. He didn't say it was the only thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 08:08 PM
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Saying money and status is the most important thing women desire doesn't mean it is the ONLY thing women desire or care about. Just that it is at the top of the list. This also doesn't mean that this will apply to every single woman 100% of the time. You are reading a generalization and understanding it to be an absolute statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:48 PM
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If you strongly prefer virgin, or very low N count women, you're obligated to wait for sex on dates. I do not want a virgin but I prefer a low N count for LTR and marriage. This obligation does not exist since I do not always date in an LTR or with the goal of having an LTR with that particular girl. So if I am just dating her for the sex, then N count is of no major concern for me. This would be how I would mostly start, then if she would like a real LTR (she might think we are already in one a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:08 PM
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Basically for most men they have to choose one or the other I don't think this is true in the real world. There aren't 2 categories that women fit neatly into and you pick one or the other. There are ranges to it, a girl can be high n compared to a nun, but still low n compared to other women she grew up with. If I am talking to two women of equal attractiveness, I will prioritize the one with the less slutty past and lower n count. Yes you can never know these things for certain (even if you as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:52 PM
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None of us are very special. Thats just it. I think you misunderstand me. I am not claiming to be objectively special, but I prefer a woman who makes me feel this way, and I think most guys also want a woman who makes them feel this way. Best relationships I've had were with girls who just couldn't get enough of me, just a primal level of attraction. That coupled with their personality and knowing they weren't out chasing random guys or letting random guys be all over them. These girls made me f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:43 PM
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Yeah, being hot for every guy was an exaggeration. My point was from a guys perspective, we feel less special and validated if she has a high n count. I don't feel like I did anything special to win her over, if she has been seduced by many other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:28 PM
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Slutty Sally finds men viscerally, sexually appealing. Well yes she finds men sexually appealing but in general. If she gets hot for any guy, if any guy will do, then I am not going to feel very special that she is with me. I think that's a big part of it for men, and why they want slutty for them not slutty for everyone. If she is like that for every guy then there is nothing about me in particular making her go crazy, that's just the way she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 03:11 PM
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Men desire sex get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:57 PM
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Men are abnormal if sex is on their mind during a relationship. Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:55 PM
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Women go home with complete strangers if they are hot enough. I know because I have been that guy a few times. Not much safety and security offered there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 06:52 PM
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It makes sense, from a female perspective, to not prioritize money and stability in their 20s but to change their priorities as they mature. It also makes sense for men who were overlooked in their 20s to resent that this happened. Are men upset that having money is considered an attractive feature? No they are upset that they are expected to accept much less for this (an older woman with baggage) than their hotter but less financially successful and ambitious peers did in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 05:16 PM
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Smaller percentage of the total population producing and greater percentage of the total population leeching is a net negative no matter how you slice it. You can say that we are still doing okay as a country or even increasing GDP despite it but a net negative means that without these factors in play we could be doing even better. Therefore it is a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:49 AM
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Less likely to go to college and more likely to live off the government has nothing to do with the rise of NEETs? It's basically the definition of the rise of NEETs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 01:36 AM
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80/20 rule. AKA, many women are sharing the top men so the "shortage" isn't as apparent. That's why "where are all the good men" doesn't come about for casual sex, it comes once they are ready for serious relationships and/or marriage. Of course they don't always consciously realize they are sharing. It's just they have a high SMV/RMV fucc buddy who is also seeing many other women on the side. But they are content because he is two or three points above her SMV/RMV. And they delude themselves in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:50 PM
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Working out, right fitting clothes, etc. can help make mutual attraction. But it isn't guaranteed, and of course won't work on every woman. There are limits to everything. But yeah even in my most blue pill days I knew there had to be mutual attraction. I mean, if not that means you just pine after someone who doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:47 AM
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What is there to discuss? How were you reading red pill stuff and not realizing that life isn't fair and attraction matters in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:52 AM
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I've never denied your statistic that NEETs are rising. Actually at the beginning of this thread you argued against this statement: People will become even more isolated, less ambitious, more resentful, less likely to go to college and more likely to live off government help until the profits begin to suffer due to economic uselessness of these people This person said this will happen to working class people. This is a description of NEETs increasing. Bear in mind the poster didn't say all at on…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 01:18 AM
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I read somewhere that married couples with daughters divorce more than those with sons. https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/02/06/parents-of-daughters-are-more-likely-to-divorce-than-those-with-sons
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:02 PM
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I majored in archaeology Yeah that doesn't sound very plausible. Considering I had to explain what a scientific theory is and that scientist can come to a consensus about what is likely to have happened in pre-historic times. Yes, even without written records ::gasp:: Good try though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:55 PM
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There is no way to know alot of things for sure, but that's just science. There are theories that are generally accepted even if we can't conclusively prove them. Scientific method. There's no way we can for sure know what it's like on Pluto, never having been. But that doesn't stop science from forming a hypothesis and theories that can be tested, attempted to be disproven, and generally accepted by those in that field of study.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:47 PM
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Nope. People don't really like to look at the ugly side of humanity sometimes. People are only as civil as they have to be. But you don't have to go that far back in history to see it in action. Look at places like in middle east where the government has broken down and people like ISIS move in. Look at the American south during slavery. Black women were raped all the time, because they were property and it was allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:40 PM
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Technology changes much faster than biology. Which is why these things cause problems now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:25 PM
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Raising other men's children has always been common. That is just very recently in human civilization, a blink of an eye if you consider the whole of human existence. For most of that time though, the new man would kill the previous offspring when taking the bride. Heck, for most of human existence rape was pretty normal since we lived as prehistoric people for tens of thousands of years. We haven't been very civilized for long (again, taking the entire time span of our species).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 07:23 PM
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I'm not saying the rise in NEETs is a good thing So we agree it is happening. Glad you came around. At worst, we'll have more incel terrorist attacks. Not good. But not overall damaging to society at large. Not sure why you think an increase in terrorist attacks is not damaging to society. Since 9/11 attacks we have had an increase in the surveillance state, military industrial complex, increased involvement in foreign wars, just to name a few. Also, these "incel" terrorist attacks are often use…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 05:35 PM
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NEETs are low IQ anyways You don't need to be high IQ to be a drain on society at best, and a destabilizing force at worst. That's all I'm saying, these people are on the rise in society, and that isn't a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:36 AM
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The U.N. said the number of young people not in employment, education or training (NEET) is on the rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 01:33 AM
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The U.N. did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:35 PM
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Being the best available doesn't mean good. Especially when trying to measure gradual movements of people's feelings and attitudes over time I can tell you're not an economist... Lmao And I can tell you aren't a good debater. Appeal to authority much? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:09 PM
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GDP increase is not a real figure of people in the workforce, or their wages, or their attitudes. You know that most of the U.S. economy is just a few big megacorps? We have tons of people at home collecting unemployment now as well. I'm not sure what you think that proves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:20 PM
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The economy is growing. Which economy? And how long can it continue at that pace? Is it faster than the growth of NEETs? What are your sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:45 PM
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OP said it will increase in the future. U.N. says it is on the rise now. Where is the disconnect for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:28 PM
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The U.N. says the number of young people not in employment, education or training (NEET) is on the rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:10 PM
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It is a fallacy to assume that because things are a certain way now, that they cannot change or reverse in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 07:26 PM
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Well yes, both run the risk of entering a bad marriage. The difference you noted is that men have a higher risk of bad outcomes after that marriage is dissolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:19 PM
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Most people even with good degree still have to work for a living. That doesn't make them less ambitious, less motivated, more isolated, whatever else the post says. Please try to remember the original post you are arguing against. Not saying that they are unmotivated and less ambitious now, just making the prediction that they will become more this way in the future. I'm.... Not saying we'd decrease to 1900 levels overnight. I simply said in 1900 we'd have had much fewer capable people and used…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 02:15 PM
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The poster you replied to had this prediction People will become even more isolated, less ambitious, more resentful, less likely to go to college and more likely to live off government help until the profits begin to suffer due to economic uselessness of these people Then clarified this as working class people. You argued against their prediction, stating it can't happen because we have 10x as many college educated people as 1900s. I am saying this is not a good argument due to: College educatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 09:03 PM
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Not sure I would, but that isn't what I said. I said I would feel I had more options. That I would feel more desirable if ladies gave me this attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:26 PM
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I'm not sure I would describe it as satisfying. But it does alter their perceptions to a degree, if even on a subconscious level. I know if I had a bunch of ladies I did not know hitting me up in that fashion I would be very spoiled for choice. I might feel as if there was no hurry to find a long term partner and would certainly feel that I had more options than I do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:17 PM
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If lying to get a woman to sleep with you is equivalent to wearing makeup then that's great because it makes me not an asshole lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:01 PM
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Anything in American society decreasing to 1900 levels is not going to happen overnight
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:46 PM
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But for some reason today's man doesn't see the amount of effort needed to attract a woman worth the reward one gets when that happens. Because after all that work he gets a woman a couple attraction points lower than him, who, after finally deciding to settle down is resentful that he's an even bigger loser than the guys she blew off in her early 20s. That resentment will manifest in ways that makes guys realize the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:43 PM
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The average woman gets way more attention from the opposite sex on social media than she would otherwise receive. The average man, although also a consumer of social media, is not affected in this same way. He does not receive a large amount of attention, compliments, validation, and simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 05:26 PM
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I agree however I would make the distinction that blue pill men tend to believe women want the first definition of good and red pill men understand the nuance a bit more in the second definition. That is to say, red pill men understand women want a man near the top of attractiveness (80/20) and good paying/high status career. Blue pill men believe that "there is someone for everyone" and "Just be yourself" etc. etc., being blind to the fact that attraction is way more important than virtue. Sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:24 PM
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Most violence against women is "intimate partner" violence. In the West at least, that means her choice. It's not being edgy to observe the behaviors of those around me and adjust my behavior accordingly. Now I give women the abuse (calm down, mostly just mental, mind games and the like) they so desperately crave and they can't get enough of me. When I was a passive, doting gentleman? Pussies dryer than the Sahara. So when not giving a shit about women stops working, I will adjust accordingly, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:13 AM
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Nah I'm good. Fortunately for me and alot of men, we stopped caring about women who don't care about us. Also I'm sure many of the women in that book chose to associate with those "abusive" men despite all the warning signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 03:00 AM
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I think the number one indicator that a woman will be beat is her not making good choices. In the company of men she keeps, in particular since most abuse/rape comes from those closest to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/21 01:52 AM
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Yes all the time. Usually, it's because she said or did something that made me realize she isn't good for an LTR/marriage, but still hits the spot in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:00 PM
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I've seen that alot too and it's heartbreaking. Guys I know who would be called "low value" for the crime of being a very average, 5/10 in every category women care about but have a good heart and just want to make someone happy. They end up with a woman who resents the hell out of him despite having no reason to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 02:22 PM
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I love that no one realizes male feminists are the most sexist of all "sit down honey and let a man fight for your rights" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 01:49 PM
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You have a reference for that? He provided one for his argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:33 PM
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No. There are definitely different levels to it. Something being more readily available or easier is going to make more people tempted to do it. I am not a thief. If I looked in your window and saw $10,000 sitting on your dinner table, I am not going to break in to steal it. If you left the cash in your driveway and I saw it while walking by and no one else was outside. Now I may be more tempted to take it, if I thought I could get away with it. I am not determined to steal from you, that wasn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:14 PM
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For the average man, paying a prostitute he finds attractive is easier than seducing a woman he finds attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:06 PM
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Actually more accurate to compare online vs meeting in bar or restaurant since you can do that by yourself without relying on other factors (friend group). In that comparison, online dating is more prevalent in terms of dating options people can do themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 12:12 AM
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Wrong. Being more selective doesn't fix anything when it's her selection criteria that is messed up. A girl who only dates guys with fucc boi tendencies who decides to be "more" selective to date only guys with fucc boi tendencies who are over 6 ft. tall has not reduced her odds of having a deadbeat baby daddy. In fact, she probably increased her odds of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 01:06 PM
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The amount of dead beat dads is staggering So proof that women as the "selectors" are not vetting men with the right criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:54 PM
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Exactly, don't listen to what women say, watch what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 02:32 AM
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But it’s important to recognize that protests don’t represent most people, or every day situations. They’re kind of extreme and fairly rare events. So your personal anecdote of perceiving to have white male privilege is any more widespread? At least my examples happened to more people than just you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:28 PM
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In the United States at least, this is not true. Famous white people will be "canceled" if they are seen as not speaking out in line with the progressive narrative. Non-famous white people will still be shamed, etc. and many cannot choose to sit out these issues without consequences. I saw videos of BLM/antifa bothering and attacking random white people who were just enjoying a meal and sitting outside. White business owners had their businesses destroyed during racial protests, heck even those …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 05:54 PM
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So females lie to police and are horrible to men only when they are angry and no other reason? Or is that a justification?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 02:22 AM
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If women are willing to lie to hurt a male partner, what makes you think a male "friend" has any chance of better treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:24 AM
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At the same time, she demands that I give of myself - time, money, attention, resources. No. I'm not getting anything back for it. Many guys here will share having the same experiences being "just friends" with women. Of course, every female on PPD will then come in to announce how they are all different and contrary to your experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 12:11 AM
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It's not a double standard. Women can choose to be picky about n-counts too if they wanted. But of course that isn't the case and they usually wet themselves over players and fucc bois.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:38 AM
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This sounds amazing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:48 PM
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There's no difference in self awareness between the sexes. Are you replying to the right person? I never said men and women as a gender have differences in self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 11:13 PM
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Of course, but that's not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:53 PM
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It's a fine line and many women are not self-aware enough to stay on the right side of it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:50 PM
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I think it's hilarious they said they won't include drug possession charges because it's mostly black people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:43 PM
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Women love "bad boys" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 04:41 PM
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This resonated with me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:42 PM
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That's your reasoning That's not my reasoning though since I said "as long as no laws are broken" All a person with mentality has to do is never get caught or not care about jail. No I am against breaking the law, I am not advocating people break the law but try not to get caught or not care about jail. This is a strawman since it is not actually my argument or position.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 02:10 PM
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"Everyone's stealing, so who cares if I'm doing it?" Nice straw man you got there. I said i don't do anything illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:19 PM
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TRP'ers have a more realistic, though negative, view of women. Why would they have anything but the bare minimum amount of long-term connections with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 01:17 AM
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But why even do it in the first place when there are other means of having sex that don’t involve purposefully hurting someone else? Because I can get sex from hotter women by having a win at any costs mentality than I can by being 100% honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 07:51 PM
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but people can definitely call you out on it and ostracize you for it. This is why most guys never admit they are doing it. It's easier to say "I think we are growing apart" or "I just need some time to myself" or a million other things rather than "I never really liked you I just wanted sex". If she still wants to be upset well I can just move on to a different group of people who don't know her and can't hear any "horror stories" about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 07:43 PM
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Everyone tries to give themselves an advantage in life. When women do it, men call them immoral, when men do, women call them immoral. As long as no laws are broken we have to accept it will happen because there is no way to force people not to work in their best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 07:34 PM
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Sure I do. I'm not doing anything illegal. Me maintaining a relationship so I can have sex is the same as a woman giving me sex so she can have a relationship. Voluntary transaction, no victims here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 06:55 PM
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For the women maybe, not for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 05:06 PM
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The article is talking about American women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 03:17 PM
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Lmao wow. Actually, the only guys I have seen who put up with women this self aggrandizing and boastful, are low value men who have no other choice. But this is way too over-the-top, even for here. This has to be a dude poking fun at the women on PPD with an exaggerated caricature. But it's hilarious and I'm here for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 10:08 PM
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This is such a meme post. People who talk like this in real life are usually trying to convince themselves more than others that everything is a-ok
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 09:02 PM
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If single mothers are being shamed for the series of less than optimal choices that led to their predicament Single mothers are not shamed in the mainstream (those that do are often called misogynist and/or incels) and in fact, their bad choices are even subsidized by the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:16 AM
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Who it applies to, and who society actually, and forcefully applies it to, are different things. If you hear an echo it may be your echo chamber
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:27 AM
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Self help books for people who are already searching for help. So they are more receptive to that and take it in healthier. Men and boys are hit with "advice" whether they like it or not. As even women can't stop themselves from declaring what a "real man" is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:23 AM
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Yeah but even in BP that advice is usually only directed at men. How can men man up and be better men, husbands, fathers. On the other hand no such expectations on women and they can act however they want with no consequence besides the loud yells of "yass queen!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:07 AM
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You are! Every woman on PPD is always the exception to these guys experiences lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:26 AM
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Based. And great explanation of female branch swinging.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:24 AM
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I do not ask straight questions, I determine after observing her actions, mannerisms, reactions to things, etc. Plus as others have said women usually cannot wait to tell on themselves once they think you are "cool". Would you end an otherwise happy and fulfilling relationship? Would you be truthful when breaking up with the girl that her n-count was the reason? No I would not bring it up because some women can get really crazy and make a scene (if women can justify lying out of fear for their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 08:11 PM
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ON THE OTHER HAND cooking meals and gift-giving is more of an actual girlfriend job, not a general girl thing. I cook for my friends (have them over for BBQ, etc.) And i also buy friends gifts. Females do this for their female friends too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:00 PM
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Agreed. I am saying a female friend provides neither
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:57 PM
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The difference is a male friend would help me move, help me fix things, etc. I have asked male and female friends to help me move, usually only the guys actually show up and if a female does show up she mostly just wants to stand around and pretend to (supervise). So a female provides none of the benefits of a male friend and no unique female friend benefits either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:59 PM
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Wrong. It's because even when I was friends with a female I was not attracted to, I was expected to perform boyfriend type duties (ask me to help them move, ask me to help them fix things, expect me to listen to her problems, etc.) While getting no girlfriend type benefits (received no gifts, no home cooked meals, didn't want to listen to my problems, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:44 PM
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Even if "reward" is not intended by the seller, that is in essence what is happening. By offering an in demand good or service for an amount of money, i am helping to create an incentive for people to work to get money. In the same way, a woman may intend to trade value for value, but an unintended but very real consequence is that she is creating an incentive for men to cultivate the value that she is demanding to trade for what they want (sex with her)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 03:57 PM
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And if he wasn't a loser before, he will be after the divorce rape. Step right up fellas, do your duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:35 PM
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You're not a man imo if you've never been married Ah yes the shaming tactics, a sure sign of being right. You aren't a man unless you accept the deal no matter how bad it is, with no questions asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:23 PM
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Marriage isn't risky for men. Famous last words.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:07 PM
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Marriage is never going to workout for somebody that wants to theorize their way into a successful one. Ah yes, who needs logic when I can base major life decisions on things as fleeting and fickle as emotions and feelings. Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:03 PM
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I suspect most men don't mind these things at face value. Cleaning up after yourself, cooking, etc. is not the problem. What I most hear is dissatisfaction with the double standard of having your sexual relationship based on how much you do for her, if you know that she allowed other men to have a sexual relationship with no such obligations placed on them. The guys who have to do all these things to have a sexual relationship will of course resent the fact that there are other men who can have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:58 PM
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Sex is so easy to come by that it is worthless. Don't try and shift the goalposts now. I'm confident that when men say this, they have a Hollywood conception of what an ugly woman is. Not if they have an online dating profile. They get to see tons of fat ugly bitches with 5 kids who demand the world in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:05 PM
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Majority of these conversations rely upon pretending ugly women don't even exist. No, alot of guys on here mention ugly women. Many say that women have it so easy that even an ugly woman has access to tons of attention and even sex. This is a common them in this sub, are you new?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:37 PM
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You should tell the next girl that you're the pretty one in the relationship. I usually am, just not by so large and sad of a disparity lol. What's your ncount? I'm a 7/10 with an exciting, well-paying career and above average extroversion so I've lost count. Also a high N count was never my goal anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:44 PM
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There are underwhelming girls and then there are what you described. I'm maybe a 7/10 on a good day and do alright for myself but I would be embarrassed for any of my friends to know i slept with the type that you described. But I guess if society and white knights and feminists want to keep blaming men for not accepting 0/10 beasts who get called ugly to their faces....well I guess I don't care if the downward spiral continues at least we will get what we deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:33 PM
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I'm sure it is funny. But again, to expect guys to make these absolute bottom of the barrel girls their sexual strategy or else their standards are too high. That is an absolute smooth brain take but society will do absolutely anything to avoid placing any blame on modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:17 PM
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some he personally called ugly to their face. A girl would have to be not only ugly, but also have some severe mental issues to even allow someone she is sleeping with to do this to her. This is the literal bottom of the barrel type woman but y'all would rather say guys standards are too high for not pursuing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:11 PM
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I'm honestly surprised that anyone would have such an idealized view of other people. Me too, but luckily men and boys are starting to wake up and find the real truth out there Luckily my eyes were opened to the realities of the world when I was propositioned for sex as an 11-year old. Ok and? I already agreed that girls are not lied to about the true nature of sexual relationships. But men are lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 04:30 PM
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Difference is that he'll date her, which is ultimately what women want. Exactly. That's why men have more reasonable standards. .. 😒 Women learn the true nature of men the second they hit puberty (and some before), and everyone makes sure she knows it as she grows up Exactly. This is why men need help, they were not given the knowledge they needed to survive in the same way women were. Yes women were given the advantage of having the opposite sex explained to them from an early age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 04:20 PM
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How do you know that sexual attention from an ugly man is indeed not disgusting to a woman? I agree with you that it is. My point is to show men how women feel about ugly men. That they are seen as worse than a man sees an ugly woman. The fact that women think gay sex for a straight man is equal shows how women really feel about men. I am not disagreeing with you, I am agreeing and amplifying in order to share red pills with my brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 04:15 PM
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If a man sees an ugly woman as a masturbatory sleeve, then he just sees attractive women as an attractive masturbatory sleeve. Yes I am sure there are men who are like this. My comment, on the other hand, was pertaining to normal well-adjusted men. Again, my point was to help red pill men by letting them see how women see them, and you guys came out in full force to prove my point, it's amazing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 04:04 PM
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Why not? They both disgust the other. If my friend made me a pizza with pepperoni and I said they disgust me, he would probably tell me to just pick them off and I would say that is reasonable. If I then made him a pizza but took a shit on it he would say that disgusts him. While he is disgusted with shit on pizza and I am disgusted with pepperoni on pizza, we would both reasonably agree that the two are not in the same league, it's a false equivalence. I wouldn't mind being told to pick peppero…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:57 PM
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Just showing the dichotomy between how men and women think and evaluate each other. But I think what we have shared so far is sufficient to thoroughly Red Pill any man reading so no need to go overboard. They get it, women are much harsher in their assessment of unattractive mates. We don't want to totally demoralize the men reading and make them Black Pilled lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:02 AM
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Yeah that's true, but straight men still see ugly women as women. We don't see being with them as on par with gay sex. Again, just a good truth bomb I am glad we can provide to men who are reading. More Red Pills for the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:58 AM
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Exactly. That unattractive men are seen as not even the same gender as attractive men. And that women see this as similar to a straight man being sexual with a gay man. Major truth bombs for men reading so thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:28 AM
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Its exactly the same because the viewing male and his hard on is not a sexual option. Yes I know, I just like to point out this female logic so men can read and see how they are really seen. A straight woman sees an unattractive man the same way a straight man sees a gay man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:00 AM
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Men do have a choice. They just let their instincts and loneliness control their choices in this regard. Because of female nature and their hypergamy, the choice is accepting a woman of lower status/value who would actually take him, or not mate at all. If men chose this then we wouldn't be here so maybe be thankful for male thirst lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:58 AM
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this dynamic would not exist without male hypogamy. Without male participation, women couldn't be hypergamous. This would not exist without male thirst, not male hypogamy. The difference is women are hypergamous by choice. Men have to date down because that is the only way they can reproduce. Basically if men didn't play by women's rules they wouldn't have a mate and we wouldn't be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:51 AM
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"Just be gay bro" A straight woman showing her body to an ugly man is not the same as a straight man showing his body to a man. One is an ugly version of the gender I am attracted to, the other isn't even the gender I am attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:25 PM
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Easy. AWALT. It doesn't matter who you are and how on top of your game you think you are, she is still bound by her hypergamy and could even make what we would consider bad choices if they seemed right to her at the time (created tingles). Look at what happened with Will Smith. The fact that these guys exist does not disprove TRP, it proves what TRP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 02:00 AM
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Well we probably need more ChiCom TRPers to comment on those specifics. What if the communists issue all their men a waifu? Then that would explain why they don't like stronger men, they don't have a choice so it doesn't matter. Also, it's super tough to get jacked on a diet of rice, so they may not even have access to enough strong men for that to even be a consideration for them. Even in kung fu movies, it's tough to tell the guy is jacked unless he takes his shirt off. Yeah, we need a mainlan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 12:50 AM
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I have not seen alot of active TRPers from mainland China. Nor have I heard any TRP post claiming to explain relationship dynamics in mainland China. women cross culturally probably can't potentially think or act in other ways that TRP assumes that they do, too. Yeah they potentially could act a certain way, or they potentially couldn't. Either way, the possibility is there. AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:58 PM
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If there is a study that shows that women don't always prefer more muscular bodies, then it means NAWALT This doesn't really dispute any TRP claim to say that many factors can influence attraction. AWALT is typically taken to mean all women could potentially be "like that", so you need to act accordingly and keep your guard up. Finding an exception to the rule does not invalidate this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 02:13 PM
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Is "a straight man engaging sexually with a man for benefit" a fair comparison to "a woman being with a man she finds repulsive for benefit"? No it is not a fair comparison. If a woman sleeping with an unattractive man was so repulsive to her that it was on par with a straight man having gay sex for some benefit, then one would expect the two to happen with similar frequency. I think that many more women have sex with guys they aren't attracted to for benefit, than straight men having gay sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:36 PM
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I don't think TRP ever claimed it would work for all men everywhere. Originally, I believe it targeted the average frustrated chump. This guy was not 5'1", horribly deformed, and ethnic. It was a guy that can get lucky occasionally but has no real idea how, and would like to gain a slight edge to improve. Bottom of the barrel guys wouldn't even have the experience to understand many TRP concepts. Shit tests, plates, holding frame......how would a 1/10 incel who has never even kissed a girl under…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:15 PM
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which disproves TRP’s claim that women’s preference for muscular men is biological TRP can claim this is rooted in biology while still allowing for culture to influence this as well. I've never heard TRP say culture has no effect on attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:10 AM
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No wonder women are so neurotic with these types of fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:44 PM
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I get the social risk of being rude but physical risk. Just curious, what country do you live in that you think a man will bash you over the head for saying you aren't attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 08:40 PM
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Just be gay bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 07:32 PM
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He's hoping you end up dating a Chad because another man sleeping with you turns him on. Or he is just hoping y'all will buy him a Nintendo Switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 03:03 AM
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It is used to explain to a clueless guy why his girl monkey branched even if he was doing everything right. It is a quick, informal explanation of women's nature (hypergamy).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:47 PM
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Why do women always bring up some ultra-rare exception and present it as anything noteworthy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 03:47 PM
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So what "data set" did OP present?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 03:02 PM
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Well unlike blue pill and FDS, TRP does address this. Red pillers point to women entering the workforce, birth control pill, legal abortions, family legal system that is stacked against men, the education system catering to girls at the expense of boys, over diagnosis of boys with ADHD, etc. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 09:04 PM
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We have no proof these women are psychos, pedos, or killers. Just that they don't mind men who are those things if they are also hot. AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 02:04 PM
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With the justified social stigma surrounding pedophilia, and that women are usually more socially aware than men, any amount of women feeling comfortable with these men despite the social stigma is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:50 PM
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I do find the results really underwhelming though So women like pedophiles if they're hot enough, big deal? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:10 PM
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TRP soundly beat the Bloops in here. Now it's Incels trying to subtly drop black pills without attracting MOD intervention while FDS tries to gaslight them into taking the blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 01:31 AM
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I thought chicks dig black dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:53 PM
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That certainly is a strategy for maybe avoiding gold diggers but i mean two guys of equal hotness who aren't rich, a woman is still going to use money and/or status as a tie breaker so it is important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:33 PM
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Whomever rejects or selects you is determining your "league" relative to them, as they are the ones making a choice. You and society do not determine your own league, but can heavily influence it such as: If you are athletic and your society values this, then that can influence your league. If you decide to make an online dating profile that includes pictures of you playing sports (or discuss playing sports IRL pick-ups), you are also influencing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:29 PM
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Women will consider a man in a more holistic way when looking for a relationship. You never really know who else you are competing against. If you are a 7 and she is also talking to another 7, but he has less of a career/job (which easily translates to money), then this would potentially be the tie breaker that makes her choose you over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:19 PM
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Or increase your attractiveness where you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 06:11 PM
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Thanks for defining marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 12:36 AM
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Multiple people are posting studies showing high N linked to infidelity and you call being wary of high N irrational?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 07:04 PM
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Well let's see someone could be Low N because only been in a few, long term relationships. But that person could still desire sex on a daily basis, just with the same person in committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:25 PM
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If she's eating 100 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches you are better finding a girl who doesn't need to go through so many different sandwiches, rather than hoping she will finally be happy with your sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:08 PM
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I don't get what's so great about a woman who comes across to a guy as more on the asexual end of the spectrum Low N does not mean asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:02 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:48 PM
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there are plenty of joyful women out there, They already know how to play the game, they are sexual expierenced These two are mutually exclusive in my experience with American women. and they often make great partners. Not what me and other guys in my country are finding. Career women are also often a great choice. Any woman who calls herself a "career woman" is a poor choice in mate. Her temperament will be more like a man than a woman. Deep down women want to be led and protected, these are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 05:42 PM
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If you have no problem in securing short term sex, then you also should have no problem in securing a quality LTR, where you have all the benefits described above, no? Not necessarily, because my standards for a quality LTR are much higher and those girls have too many options for most to effectively compete without too many shit tests, wasting my time, etc. The girls I get for short term are hot enough to sleep with and be seen with but usually have some other issue that disqualifies them from …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:59 PM
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If you are not a Chad (= you bring to less to the table to be attractive), then what? And she is no longer the young, fun, unjaded and nice girl she used to be. Rather have a sexless life without women? Rather turn to prostitutes? Nope, I have short-term relationships with women in order to secure sex until she realizes it's going nowhere and moves on. This is basically „She liked x more than me and did more for him, while he hasn’t put any work into it. That’s unfair!“ Now you are getting it. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 03:18 PM
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This was my original assertion. Can you convince me that a woman going under the knife is a sacrifice for men (original claim made that I am refuting) instead of a sacrifice for herself (counter-claim I am making)?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:52 PM
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Ok cool but a woman getting plastic surgery still isn't a sacrifice for men, it is a sacrifice to improve her own personal outcomes in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:47 PM
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if you see Coca Cola or some such brand people offering free product(as part of the advertising campaigns they tend to periodically do in big cities), are you now boycotting that brand because "it's unfair that people get different treatment"? No because that is different from my analogy in that I would have the same opportunity for free Coca Cola if I was only at the right place and time during the promotion. If I had been there it wouldn't be denied to me and given to someone else right next t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:23 PM
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The parts of the „higher price“ or „the strings attached“ are just part of „being in a relationship“. He does pay a higher price, I literally put that in the analogy. The Chad gets those benefits of a relationship too (gifts, cuddling, time spent together) as often as he would like (can come test drive anytime for free). The regular guy gets those benefits of a relationship with more requirements on his part (must take her out on nice and/or expensive dates, study hard for a nice career to impre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:19 PM
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All women going under the knife to attain the optimal did so on a general scale as a sacrifice for men. This was not a sacrifice for men in general, this is a sacrifice women make for themselves, to secure a better man for herself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 02:08 PM
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I never said that either! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:50 PM
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Who said I only see women as a body for sex? In my analogy, he wants to buy and maintain the car for long-term. He wants a relationship, you don't have to sell him on the benefits. He is just upset that he has to pay a higher price for used goods when another man has more opportunity while providing less. Don't take for granted that men get so much from a relationship with a woman, if many are starting to say the juice ain't worth the squeeze for community property.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:40 PM
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Which convo? I didn't mention anal or specific sex acts. Just that guys don't like paying a higher price for used goods. And OP didn't mention specific sex acts either. OP talks about better/worse treatment in relationships vs FWBs and gives examples of things outside the bedroom (baked goods, gifts, visiting family). So again....congrats....on not having unwanted sex...I guess lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:22 PM
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You can always stay away from unwanted sex. That's a given. What do you think that added to the conversation? What response did you want me to have? It's a weird point to make. But it's predictable, typical even. RPer: Men have a problem with this. Women: Life's not fair. RP: Ok so that's why men aren't engaging with women the same anymore. Women: Well I don't want to sleep with those men anyway. RP: um...cool? The "you can't fire me, I quit" is the standard female fall back position when you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 10:03 PM
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Um...congrats? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 07:02 PM
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RP men understand that life isn't fair. They are just choosing to not accept what they see as a bad deal for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 06:56 PM
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A great analogy I once read was: You go to a car dealership, you want to buy a brand new sports car. You are quoted at $50,000 and told you need to put down $5,000 to even test drive it. Oh well, it's a great car and you plan to own it and take care of it long-term. Before signing the papers, you notice there are some miles on the odometer, not very many and you are assured it is still new. When you ask for more explanation, the saleswoman tells you a really rich dude that is well liked came in …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/20 05:48 PM
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Or I will say it excludes broken, low value women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 11:48 PM
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Fine. I will start saying that TRP teaches "the nature of women who actually matter to most men".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:46 PM
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Says alot about your character. I assure you the alternative was much worse. But I am a victim no longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:35 PM
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It's understood by most people that TRP isn't saying how to understand and bed lesbians. Like to anyone not on the spectrum this is understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:30 PM
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TRP explains the nature of women. Most men are not looking for gay women, asexual, hate commitment, queer, and whatever other broken segment of women you can list here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:28 PM
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Which problems? And who in society is ignoring them? Too much to get into here. But men post their grievances here and on red pill forums every day. Given your name I wouldn't expect this to be news to you. Actually, that you would ask what problems as if you have never heard this before, yet have the name "red pill is a cult, is exactly what I mean about society ignoring mens problems. I am fine with the status quo. I took responsibility for making my life better and I have, usually at the expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:26 PM
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What about poly women? Asexual women? Women who don’t want commitment? Women who don’t want marriage? Women who don’t want kids? Women who are deeply interested in their careers? TRP does address these women. It quickly defines them as low value women not worthy of chasing and then moves on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:21 PM
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They don’t take a bunch of women into account at all. Not Nuro diverse women, not gay women, not poly women, not queer women, not asexual women, not hyper sexual women, not women who don’t want commitment, not women who don’t want to be married, not women who have zero desire to have kids or be a stay at home parent... Why would TRP care about these types of women at all except how to identify and avoid them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 09:18 PM
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Society has largely ignored the problems of young men in this country. And now that they have finally found something that helps them, society wants to ask for alternatives. They better offer something of substance and they better do it fast. If not no skin off my back, I am enjoying my current reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:45 PM
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Nope the cities were in fact burning. Some still are. The fact that Democrats can't even finish anything they start is not an affirmative defense for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:40 PM
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Democrats (the party of burning down cities) don't get to lecture people on how to be functional adults
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:36 PM
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Fine. But if society expects better from young men they owe them a better alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:34 PM
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And I'm not a woman, I'm a dude Never called you a woman, I meant in general. Real healthy attitude. That chip on your shoulder is the size of a fucking boulder. If it works, I appreciate the results thus far. The language of abuse. Sad, but not surprising Again, it works. If they didn't want it they would stop rewarding my behavior and go after one of those nice guys they complain about. moral or ethical framework next? I will not impose morality where none exists. In other words, why abide by …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:18 PM
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Yes, if you're cool with being a shitty person, lying and manipulation 'works', at least on some people. I don't care what shaming language scorned women call me, I've seen what makes them applause. If you're only doing all that self improvement stuff for women, guess what? You're 'becoming a totally different person to please a woman'. Yeah but after all that self improvement, I realize these women aren't worthy of what I have become. Plus they prefer to be treated badly, or at least they respo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 07:06 PM
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Lying and manipulation work good enough though. And it's easier than becoming a totally different person to please a woman. I just pretend to be the beta provider that will marry her and make all her self-imposed problems go away. Just put on the mask, get what you want, then take off the mask when done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 06:51 PM
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these broad studies, make leaps of logic about all women, If broad studies and leaps of logic don't work then who cares? to try and use women for sex. I think TRPers find that it works, so they stay red pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 06:31 PM
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Well TRP is basically explaining female nature and offering advice to improve yourself. Both are equally helpful. Men come to TRP because they had trouble with women and find that what is said about female nature matches up with their experiences. As for generic, no Blue pill generic advice ever told me to spin plates, hold frame, don't simp for women, do not open up about personal stuff, how to pass her shit tests, etc. That stuff might be generic if you grew up in the hood, but not for most yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:46 PM
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So you don't have ant better solutions than TRP's workout, build career, get a hobby? So then don't bash it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:38 PM
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I never said you had no other solutions to TRP. Please direct your comment to the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:30 PM
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Did I say completely destroyed? Democrats are engaging in rioting, looting, violence, and arson throughout the country. In cities that have been mostly Democrat governed lol. But no the Democrats have not completely destroyed them yet, thank God. Portions of cities have been burned down. By Democrats. Hope that clears it up. MAGA
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:23 PM
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Yeah but still much better than "healthcare is bad and I have no suggestions to fix it" Since that was your first point, it's ridiculous for you to then criticize TRP's real, actionable steps for improvement. And if it was so generic and self-evident then there would be nothing to debate here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:21 PM
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It's really not a gotchya on me, more of a self own on rp'ers. Nope. Because TRP offers solutions so guys can actually work to improve. Versus: "Healthcare sucks and I have no idea how to fix it, just do something with that" - a complainer
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 05:08 PM
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Who cares if you think another system is better? If you offer no solutions on how to improve our system then we just stay the same. Which is why, saying a system is bad while offering no solutions to fix it is a huge gotcha to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:59 PM
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It's similar to stockholm syndrome. For this to be stockholm syndrome those women searching violent porn would have to have been victims of unwanted violent sex. I don't believe you have any stats to back up that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:46 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_uk/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn More men watch porn, but women are twice as likely to be looking at the violent stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:40 PM
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So far, the year 2020 has seen riots in Atlanta, Saint Louis, Seattle, New York City, Minneapolis, Chicago, Oakland, Denver, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, Trenton, Atlantic City, Boston, Louisville, Bakersfield, Columbus, Dallas, Des Moines, Detroit, Los Angeles, Sacramento, Phoenix, San Jose, and I’m sure I’ve missed lesser-covered violence. Residents of Portland have endured “87 straight nights of protest on the streets of Portland, 23 more arrested Sunday night, nearly 20 riots declared ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:39 PM
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It's like saying that if I think the US healthcare system is broken, but have no idea how to fix it, thats some kind of gotchya. It is a "gotcha" in the sense that if a solution is never offered, we will just keep the same healthcare system.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:34 PM
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Women view these genres of porn too, at a higher rate than most believe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:31 PM
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Do you think women do not search for violent porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:30 PM
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After I saw someone being happy about his gf unable to pair bond TRP warns about women doing this to themselves, and on a much larger scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:26 PM
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I'm personally over Democrats going high, for example. Democrats have been rioting and burning down cities for months. Democrats have had their gloves off fighting dirty for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/20 04:22 PM
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I don't think this explains it entirely though. After 1 date with a person you don't really have an emotional connection. Well even after just one date, if someone is looking for something serious they can sort of build up a romantic idea in their head of what a relationship with this person would be like. It's a pretty natural thing to occur because in essence you are evaluating them during a date to see if you think you would enjoy seeing them more. Now again for the job seeker, i may imagine …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 11:36 PM
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Most people do not have the same emotional connection to their jobs as they do to a lover. You tolerate that in the job search because you know it's not personal, it's just business.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 10:52 PM
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Well that certainly explains you arguing for men having lower standards for women. And also you not understanding what the phrase "putting pussy on a pedestal" means lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:41 AM
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If just finding a feminine woman is some "angelic standard" that you can't get then sorry bro lol. They are out there but you gotta bring some A game
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 12:25 AM
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Pussy so high on that pedestal lol Um, holding women to a higher standard of behavior is the opposite of "putting pussy on a pedestal". At least the way that phrase is used in the United States, I have no idea where you are from.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 11:57 PM
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Fine. All these men are lying about their own experiences but you know better than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 08:16 PM
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Seems more likely that you are coping, instead of all these men coping with the same thing in the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 07:23 PM
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https://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:40 PM
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"Every man is a liar if I don't agree with their experiences as men. As more and more men keep having the same experiences I am more convinced they are lying!" OK
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 05:28 PM
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I'm pointing out the tendency So you encounter a diverse group of anonymous men online who have no reason to lie to you, who have had very similar experiences to each other so of course... All these un-connected men must be lacking personal accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:55 PM
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I don't believe so. Men and women are different. There are expectations women have of men that they do not embody and vice-versa. My preference is woman that has what I consider to be feminine characteristics. I am not a hypocrite for not being feminine myself. A hypocrite is someone who pretends to have virtues, morals, or principles that they do not actually possess. I am claiming to value low-N counts in women, and that is what I actually value in women. The principles I claim to have, I do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:28 PM
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PPD Women: Asks question about men's experiences Men: Answers the question PPD Women: We can all play the blame game
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 04:09 PM
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Men choosing to remarry when they're on the wrong side of this incentive is less easy to explain. Humans are imperfect, and do not always make the best choices, even when there is obvious incentive to do so. In this specific example men have alot going against them. First, a BP upbringing will persuade a divorced man that since "women are wonderful", they must have just stumbled upon the rare, bad women. They think they will be prepared to make a better choice in women next time or that at the v…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 03:16 PM
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And your football scenario is basically lifted straight from porn, so also not really applicable. If you think my point was specifically about threesomes and football gangbangs then you missed the forest for the trees. The point is low-N girl has fewer sexual experience/hangups to bring into your relationship, so you two can bond better by experiencing and learning something that is more rare and meaningful together. or men who are insecure but judge the woman for it. There's no reason to judge …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:58 PM
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We wanna be comfortable and have fun while learning. For most men this means being with a low-N (relative to them) girl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:50 PM
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Divorced men who don't already have children are so much more likely to remarry than any other demographic it's insanity, so obviously there's something going on there. You see similar behavioral trends in voles; Grieving males readily find a new mate, grieving females greet potential new suitors with violence. I was with you until this point. Women evolved to more readily accept and move on to new mates. The fact that they don't remarry as much as divorced men has more to do with recent social …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:29 PM
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People that have had a few more partners are probably a bit more likely to actually know what they like and enjoy as well, and may well be less shy about educating you. Guys want to explore and figure this out with someone. They don't want to show up inexperienced and have their girl tell them "well i had plenty of threesomes, I don't like them now" or "I like when you jackhammer me, I learned to love that while hanging out with the football team" Men shouldn't hunt for a virgin (impossible), bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 02:20 PM
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You’ve managed to generalise every relationship down to “the guy just wants sex”. He didn't say guys just want sex. He said modern women don't offer men anything else of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/20 11:35 PM
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Where are you going out that you and your friends are counting pennies instead of just telling the waitress/server "split the check please"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 07:45 PM
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I liked the idea of being a girlfriend, but loving who he was as a person was a nonsense concept to me. Truth bombs right here. This is how they start. Self-serving in their relationships, and that's before they get old and jaded. And only get worse with age. Your idea of romance does not exist to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/20 05:28 PM
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And no. I dont feel "free". Knowledge allows you to make a more informed choice. In this way, it is freedom. Not everyone can handle being free, not everyone can handle the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 01:03 AM
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or the boring dude who might have raised a child that wasn't his I believe most men would pick almost any other option over this but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 06:21 PM
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Sure but not enough to make a difference. As more men fall off the radar the standards only go up. And even if no actual person within her proximity is better than you, there is the idea in her head of the guy she deserves. You will compete against this hypothetical guy because she won't realize that he doesnt exist or wont commit to her until she's already hit the wall herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:10 AM
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So I think that my point stands that, overall, it's a good thing for men who can manage to attract a woman in the first place Yes it is a good thing to be a man who can manage to attract a woman As opposed to.....a man who cannot attract a woman? No argument from me on that. However, as soon as he attracts her he now has competition whether he knows it or not. If he screws up or gets boring? This is all subjective and relative of course. He is only boring if she meets a way more exciting guy. He…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 02:02 AM
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Well that's your online persona at least. I'm sure you aren't compensating or anything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:31 AM
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No most people gain RP truths from experience. That girl in high school that kissed another guy between classes, watching their uncles get divorce raped, etc. Hell, most of this my best friend and I heard from his older brother trying to impart some knowledge on us. RP in Reddit and other places online is just people using the internet to push those comms out exponentially. But nah dude, you aren't average. You made it clear in your previous posts that you are super cool and all knowing man. Jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/20 12:05 AM
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I'm just showing you how the BP and RP advice is objectively different. I am not arguing that people do not have different interpretations. But it still is not just "wow repackage the same thing" Also, you seem like an even bigger edgelord than the RP guys that upset you so much. "Yeah RP is right, but I was totally just born knowing that everything I was told as a kid was bullshit, so now I'm gonna get pissed off on Reddit because other guys had to come to the same conclusions later in life aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:44 PM
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BP advice: Just be yourself RP advice: Do not let your guard down around women, keep your problems to yourself, do not show weakness, always improve yourself, hold frame This guy: I mean yeah, same same
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 11:18 PM
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Distinction without a difference. Why does it matter if guys would rather avoid both. In fact, having her just leave you for a guy isn't even as bad as her staying with you and cheating. Also, hypergamy includes her having an affair because the other guy was better "in the moment". You stated if a guy manages to attract a woman she will be loyal. Even if you don't call it branch swinging, a cheater is not loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 08:41 PM
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If a guy manages to actually attract a woman, then she’ll be loyal. Negative. You are assuming that when women step out it is always with an objectively better choice than her current man. Will Smith's wife cheated on him with a depressed young nobody. Women will cheat on a great guy with a one night stand on girls night or the gardener or a personal trainer. AWALT and no matter how good of a catch a man thinks he is, his girls loyalty is never assured.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:18 PM
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"Scary for us men" implies unhappiness with the nature of women I am also afraid of snakes, because their natural instinct would be to bite me. I am not unhappy that snakes exist, i am not upset at snakes. I am not even blaming them for acting according to their nature. But i do still find them scary. I hope you will find this concept easy to understand with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 09:13 PM
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Why do I have to get pissed at anyone? Especially for things done long before I was even born? You must be a liberal. I will hold women living today accountable for their actions. That is a much more rational response.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 09:10 PM
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so who’s fault is it really? People who are long dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:46 PM
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then why would you be mad at women when it’s men who caused it? Please re-read my post until you realize I never said I blamed women or was upset at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/20 06:44 PM
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Scary for us men to imagine that women have evolved to have a more "flexible" idea of loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/20 08:24 PM
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Until the bar is set so high no man (available to her) can reach it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:35 PM
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Boring is stagnation. Stagnation is the mind-killer. Boring/fun is way too subjective for this to hold weight. If a significant portion of those in the dating age think going out to get drunk is fun then someone who doesn't is seen as boring. There are many other more productive things they could be doing, but doesn't matter if the prevailing thought is that he is boring. Does not getting wasted every weekend mean he is in stagnation since he is boring to many his age?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 02:32 PM
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They’re typically honest about their history, so I don’t understand your problem. Most women with a promiscuous past, are not up front about this. Especially when they decide you're the "good guy" they want to settle down with. And that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 01:53 PM
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TRP guys agree with your observations. It's why they would rather date a younger woman with less experience. For one, she doesn't have as good of an understanding of her market value. But secondly, and more often talked about, she hasn't been ran through by so many men. If you date a high-n women, you are competing against a fictional conglomeration of all the best traits of all the guys she has been with. Guy #1 was a talented athlete, guy #2 was the charismatic life of the party, and guy #3 wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 08:35 PM
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Exactly Those are the types of people that hold those views You have managed to prove these views wrong merely by insulting those who hold these views. Genius!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 11:09 PM
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Ah yes, personal attacks in lieu of an argument. The mark of a true genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 11:04 PM
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No way, people would tell my gf that I am an incel lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:08 PM
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This is a very interesting point. Whether in older oppressive societies or modern Egalitarian ones, more women had their sexual imperatives met than men. Women really are by and large the winners no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 08:19 PM
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I believe myself to be superior to wolves in every way, being a human being who has higher intelligence, the use of tools, written language, etc. But I would still view packs of wolves roaming through my town as a threat to society and my well-being. In this way men could feel superior to women, and still understand the threat to society they could represent with unchecked female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:56 PM
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but no, rights you are not born with. In the United States at least, we believe differently. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" Rights are given by creator. Governments do not create rights, gove…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:51 PM
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https://youtu.be/0OyFTT2MQ90
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 07:13 PM
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is representative of humankind. It may not represent humankind, but it does represent an increasingly large portion of the dating market. I mean why does a person looking to date care if the world is full of nice little kids and nice old grandmas too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:57 PM
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become a complete asshole because that surely works better... Many men find that it does work better for them though. They find TRP and it works and women hate it. (I do not think TRP teaches you to be an asshole, but I have seen women's response to TRP is to call those men assholes)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:54 PM
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Decent women want decent men because their values lie around personality, not looks, money, or shitty 'bad boy' crap. Nah, too many men here have seen it is often the same woman, just at different times of her life. When she is young, only the "bad boy" will do. Once she is too old for that, she suddenly is "mature" and wants the exact opposite of what she has always chased.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:51 PM
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Just be James Bond bro
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:48 PM
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I'm saying that if women are socialized to be equally ambitious (as is becoming true) Is becoming true? This has been the case for at least 30 years. I remember as a kid in the early 90s there was "girl power" "you go girl" "girls rule boys drool" "you can grow up to be anything you want" "a high powered career and time to find a husband and start a family after" I'm in my 30s, if you are talking about the childhood socialization of much older women, sure. But when most in here discuss the gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:24 AM
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Dude that is the agreement when you get married. And when a woman files for divorce, she seeks to void this agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 02:46 PM
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why would she settle for less when her own value is highest? A woman will leave a man for someone she thinks is better, or even the possibility of having someone better. Since Alphas can string women along, it is not impossible for a woman to leave her beta husband, only to find out the alpha she left him for doesn't want anything serious with her. Also, women write love letters to men in prison. The guy she leaves for may not be objectively better, but he may be more exciting or whatever her ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:55 AM
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Not choosing a high-n woman for LTR because that is correlated with infidelity is not within the BP narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:51 PM
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If you don't care about how something happens, and are more concerned with avoiding a bad outcome for yourself, then yes correlation is enough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 08:11 PM
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Because we already know men can be capable of bad things. Society constantly reminds men that we are all potential rapists who harm women by simply gazing upon them while passing in the street. Greater society gives no such warnings, especially to boys and young men, to be wary or distrustful of women. So yes, both genders can be capable of harming you. AWALT is needed to counter the "women are wonderful" sentiment that society pushes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:32 PM
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Even if someone lied during a job interview, how is that comparable in terms of ethics to lying in order to get sex Do women just all have pointless jobs where they can't imagine how lying to get that job could be disastrous? Found the gender wage gap apparently lol. Lying to get sex is trivial compared to lying in a job interview. What if someone lies and makes fake credentials to prove they are a surgeon? Or a pilot? Lots of people could lose their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/20 06:37 PM
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All great points, thank you. The right and left do seem to play different roles at different times. This will also be affected as things start destabilizing and going bad. People tend to take on a different set of morals in a crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:22 PM
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I don't know if this would be enforceable, at least in the United States. The right favors personal freedom and the left favors sexual freedom, so not sure there would even be a large enough base to support these measures. Although I agree something that drastic might be our only hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 04:49 PM
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I said it is not contradictory to find a woman who is too unattractive to date, who also has unrealistically high standards to date. It is not contradictory because both of these can he true at the same time. It is a possibility. The issue could be with the guy. This is also a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 01:20 AM
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Why cant the guy be the problem? I didn't say the guy couldn't be the problem. Who said the guy couldn't be the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 12:39 AM
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Incels / MGTOW: The dating market is unfair because women view the majority of men as unattractive. 80-20 rule, wah wah wah. Also Incels / MGTOW: The dating market is unfair because the majority of women are not attractive enough for me. This isn't contradictory. Women can be unattractive and have unrealistically high standards. In fact, the two often go hand-in-hand unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 08:33 PM
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Maybe they want to educate their fellow man perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 02:59 PM
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Yes. You should have asked me for my source instead of just saying "clickbait articles" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:39 AM
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Clickbait articles? That is how women really talk. My friends fiance told us she has to receive a ring at least $5000, because that is the cost of the ring he bought his ex-wife. The fact that a woman can say that to a mixed gender group and get smiles and laughter but a man is horrible for saying that he wants the same level of affection as previous partners and he doesn't want to wait longer than they did for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:35 AM
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What “society” thinks is a complete non sequitur Why? Women don't shame other women for doing the same, but they are upset when men do it. Yep, total non sequitur for sure. Except women being upset when men do it "want the best" is the point of this discussion. And no one should tolerate anything they do not want to. He is free to hold her to a standard, and she is free to leave if she refuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:21 AM
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I see no problem with this. I think both sexes should want their partners best, and if they are unwilling then they can break up and find someone else. As far as I can tell society will "you go girl" her but call him a misogynist for the same thing, expecting the best of their partner (same as the exes) and leaving if they don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:11 AM
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Oh sure I missed where you said that How did you miss a comment that you replied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:06 AM
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If everyone wants to be treated as good or better, then why do women get upset when men say they want this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:04 AM
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"Now women want to say it's the same thing because they are both a choice. Those choices are not comparable though." This was my original point. If you claim low value men should see an escort over beta bucks then yes I agree. But this does not dispute my point that men's and women's choices in dating are not the same and so not comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:02 AM
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Not argued by me? I am not standing by or supporting that point. I am saying men want to be treated as good or better. It's about how they are made to feel. I have seen many more men make this argument than the other more extreme example, and I think it is fair to admit men should want to be treated as good as an ex as a baseline. Do you have an argument against this or do you concede this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:57 AM
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Ok so guys should let themselves be used and abused as an unloved and disrespected Beta bucks because "who cares what society thinks, don't be a pussy bro"? I don't agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:50 AM
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That sounds like an extreme example. Most guys genuinely don't bemoan not being able to find love, just because they want someone to mistreat. They mostly just don't want to be treated worse than previous men. They don't want less love and affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:40 AM
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Oh ok well I'm a guy Not an argument against my point. I think men shouldn't give a flying fuck about any of that societal approval nonsense so Just go against your needs as a social creature bro. Not feasible. Most guys aren't mentally equipped to live this way and would probably end in more suicides.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:37 AM
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I have heard many guys argue they want to be treated as good or better than the guys in her past. just because you’re not going to put up with mistreatment that you suffered from someone else in the past. Which guy made this argument? Which poster said he wanted to be able to mistreat a girl as badly as her ex? I have never seen that argument made so I have to believe you have constructed a straw man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:20 AM
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Cool. My point was that women do and what moral said are not the same thing, which I think you were trying to argue to the other poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:14 AM
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That the choices aren't the same. A beta staying with a bad choice of woman (starving man eating tainted food) is not comparable to women making bad choices in men (spoiled kid choosing not to eat their vegetables. Your counter was that men could "pay". But that is not a good option either because women do not respect men who pay (either beta bucks or those who see escorts). They only pretend to like value a beta bucks man and suggest that choice (when they know the man is still not respected an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:00 AM
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So that's the fallback position once you are proven wrong. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:50 AM
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Yeah because like I said, when men complain about these women they aren't talking about the age group you mentioned. Congrats on destroying the straw man you created.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:27 AM
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Some of the beta men can afford to buy the desert Sure, but that is never presented as a healthy choice. Not by men or women. Women want nothing to do with a man who has seen an escort, but want to convince men they should be happy being a Beta Bucks. Why is that? If they are both paying for it why do women only praise the option that benefits them, yet will avoid men who choose the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:24 AM
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I don't think most guys would care if a girl got her act together by 20 lol. Like wow I would kill for such a unicorn. When guys describe these "option B" girls as in the OP who "learned their lesson" and "matured" they are almost always 27 and up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:17 AM
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I don't think most guys would care if a girl got her act together by 20 lol. Like wow I would kill for such a unicorn. When guys describe these "option B" girls as in the OP who "learned their lesson" and "matured" they are almost always 27 and up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:16 AM
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He said he would if she asked him to. Women make no such concessions. They will not treat these Betas like Chad if they ask her to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:13 AM
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Well in terms of the options they have yes it is very lopsided. When you are young women have all the power of choice in dating and relationships. Beta guys choose between taking what they can get and being alone. Now women want to say it's the same thing because they are both a choice. But a spoiled kid not eating vegetables because they want dessert, and a starving man choosing to eat tainted food are both making a choice. Those choices are not comparable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:08 AM
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A little exaggerated, but yes you get the point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:02 AM
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So the argument is not that TRP is incorrect, but that it should be obvious to more men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:51 AM
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Or you could act like an adult and be honest with your intentions rather than acting like a teenage headfuck. Many men tried that and it didn't have as favorable of results for them. Look the men who do this aren't worried about being judged a good person. They already feel like society doesn't care about them so they might as well take care of themselves if no one else will. Well no shit your relationships are all shallow and the women you attract are trashy if all your doing Is being manipulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:47 PM
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the fact she can act like that in her youth indicates personality traits that probably wouldn't be compatible with a guy who expects (what a virgin, 2-3 previous partners??) a person at 35 to have next to no sexual history. Exactly. We are saying these high n girls are not good for relationships to low n betas (the average man) so he needs to be on the lookout for the signs because not all women will be up front about this. In the relationship advice sub and others there have been posts from wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:40 PM
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You didn't answer my point,women who are promiscuous are probably carefree and have a party lifestyle. So your point hinges on the assumption that people's priorities and lifestyles never change? She is carefree and a party girl so will always be that way? I think it would be pretty obvious to anyone with real life experiences that this is not accurate. There's no way I could convince someone who believes this that it is not true. Over time, when you and your friend group grows up you will reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:59 PM
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That's not what I mean and you know it. Get out of my head! AAAARRRGGGG! lol I wouldn't want a partner who doesn't accept that. Cool story. I imagine you don't speak for every woman. Or they'd just accept your partner is human and like most adults at 35 have had sex previously. The men on here say otherwise but believe what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:48 PM
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why would a woman who enjoys casual sex want to be with a guy who disapproves? It's called wanting to have your cake and eat it too. Or if you ask them it is "well now that I am 35 and have matured...". They know the Beta providers would suffer too much of an ego hit if he knew he was marrying the town bike.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:25 PM
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No lol. Can't remember specifics (it was like 10 years ago) but he intentionally instructed them to dress and act skanky/trashy as possible as part of the joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 06:20 PM
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Ok fair enough on the fear part. And agreed there is morality in social interactions. In situations that are honest I act accordingly. No one can make me feel guilty about finding an advantage in a game that is already stacked against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:29 PM
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Buddy of mine from the Army took two hot as hell strippers with him to our military ball (very formal dining and dancing event). All the fat wives were pissed it was hilarious. He was getting out and not worried about the next promotion of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:57 PM
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I would say that fear is irrational since the first one to mention violence in this exchange was you not me. I have learned to be amoral in an amoral game and it has paid off though. Alot of men I talk to have come to the same conclusion. The truth is this probably hurts women much more than actual violence though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:52 PM
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Ok then, the non-Chad majority of men who get shit on daily in the dating game. When they finally snap and realize what they have to do to stop losing, they will do it even if they are hypocritically called "immoral"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:42 PM
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The average value man, if RP aware, probably feels the chips are stacked against him for a healthy family legacy. The average value man has also seen no morality protecting him or his interests in dating and relationships, and so will not concern himself with maintaining fairness in a game that had never been fair to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:31 PM
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Agreed. If an average value man wants a relationship, their best strategy might be to keep the possibility of marriage on the table, then just keep stalling until she is finally fed up. Then you find someone else. Lather, rinse, repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:20 PM
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Most women are attractive enough to demand equality and traditionalism at the same time, and so they do. If you aren't Chad and would prefer to deal with your wife on level ground, do not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:12 PM
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She is judging you for your past (post) history lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 06:31 PM
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Yeah that's a chick lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 06:19 PM
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It is not MEN who did those things, but a small set of amazing people. These amazing people were overwhelmingly men so my point stands lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 03:32 PM
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But they don't build civilization. As usual, RP men cannot acknowledge that civilization does not even exist without children being brought up into it, Only a woman would counter the overwhelming amount of men advancing civilization as mathematicians, philosophers, architects, engineers, inventors, explorers, scientists, etc, etc. With........well women push out babies. Women historically did loads of valuable work in maintaining and running civilization, like running the farm, harvesting and pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 03:01 PM
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Insecurity is caring so much about who another person wants to date that you try to shame them into accepting sluts. At least men who are vocal against sluts do it to (hopefully) increase the non-sluts in the world and in their dating pool. What do you get as a man trying to shame other dudes preferences and try to sell them on LTRing sluts? Only logical explanation is you are insecure in your own choice of women and want to drag other men down with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 11:21 PM
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Well I actually never said or even meant telling who was a slut. Guys who want a girl who will do anything sexually should go for sluts. I mentioned subtle aggressive tone as an indication to most men that this girl is jaded and has some sexual hang ups, which guys who want a woman's best will want to avoid. Ironically, your mind going straight to "slut tells" when that is not what I was discussing, is actually a huge slut tell lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:46 PM
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Women with this kind of subtle yet aggressive tone are dead giveaway because most people who act like that were not always like that. Guys who want the young, inexperienced women will instantly know you aren't their type, and that should be fine because it sounds like you wouldn't want that type of guy either. I am sure your online persona is probably more unfiltered than in real life, but honestly you would have to pretend to be a totally different person in front of a guy all the time for him …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:17 PM
1

Great username - response synergy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 02:08 PM
1

Tradcons are red pillers that wish the blue pill was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:31 PM
6

Karen, like other memes isn't an age, it's a mindset. I see some millennials get called boomer all the time for their personality and beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 06:43 PM
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I have no idea how you read this: "The Modern hypocrisy of A lot of Women sexualizing and objectifying themselves and then being upset when they are treated as sexual objects is proof that the modern world lets female hypocrisy slide on a large scale" And only understood "sexy clothes"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 01:33 PM
14

Here we go again. Some guys do bad things, all guys are culpable and will be shamed for it and expected to speak up against it at every turn. Some women do bad things. Get over it, people are like that, life isn't fair. Even their answer to hypocrisy is more hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 12:19 AM
1

Funniest thing I've heard all year. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:56 PM
2

Yeah I don't have much experience with sex ::Looks at girlfriend:: Omg why are you so obsessed with this shit!?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 08:34 PM
41

Just get rich and famous bro
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:40 PM
2

Great explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 09:31 PM
1

Unless you are new here you have seen most men say the same. I'm not going to produce a study to show women use sex to gain favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:50 PM
1

Nope not delusional, I've seen it myself. Women gladly trade sex for things they want/need.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:35 PM
1

False equivalence. Women using sex to get what they want, which they already do naturally, is not the same as men (who are overwhelmingly straight) having to take a dick in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 01:33 PM
-1

No, more like, a woman with nothing can still sell dat a$$ but a man with nothing literally has nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:15 AM
11

"In 2018, men died by suicide 3.56x more often than women." https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/ "While the majority of individuals who experience homelessness are men, too many women also find themselves in these circumstances" https://endhomelessness.org/demographic-data-project-gender-and-individual-homelessness/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:58 PM
8

There is more men than women on the streets in the U.S., there are more men than women committing suicide in the U.S. Those are facts, regardless of how many times you pretend you can't read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:47 PM
1

My friend lies to single mothers that he wants a serious LTR with them. I used to think it was just to get laid easily, but now I realize he was just avoiding potential violence from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:12 PM
2

Actually, if men stop taking these "risks" then women would just let humanity die off rather than swallow their pride and change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 08:02 PM
1

I can't believe anyone didn't realize white western men are Chads in developing countries lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 08:21 PM
1

The thought of eating fast food for the rest of my life is disgusting. That doesn't mean I am disgusted to eat McDonalds once, just that the thought of it long term is disgusting. I find the thought of marriage to the town bicycle as disgusting. That doesn't mean I will refuse my turn to ride once.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 04:52 PM
2

You have any statistics proving statistics are unreliable?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 11:24 PM
5

"Fine, do what you want just stop letting other men in on our secret." -women on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 10:33 PM
2

I know. That's why I wasn't replying to your post, I was replying to the question above me of what is the purpose of the bottom 80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 06:45 PM
3

I wouldn't call them bitter since they are taking active steps to improve themselves and their lives by taking TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:42 PM
1

Well maybe the bottom 80% is here to keep the lights on (dirty jobs, etc.) for the top 20%. Chads and Stacys don't typically like doing those jobs and usually aren't necessarily the ones innovating solutions to problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:17 PM
0

Lmao harsh. But true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 11:04 PM
1

Then you could have just agreed with me from the beginning lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 07:01 PM
2

I guess some men take their relationships more seriously than a box of paints.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:44 PM
0

Not how things work for serious matters (such as employment or loaning large sums of money). I guess one could decide not to care about the past but those that do are being logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:30 PM
6

The first time I became interested in a guy was because he cried. You are definitely an exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:27 PM
5

What they did or didn't do previously is irrelevant Try this in a job interview. Maybe use this to explain bad credit when you want a loan. If someone ever says the past doesn't matter they are trying to control the situation to their benefit at your expense. But omg it's just dating right? Well half-assing anything is not a recipe for success.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:12 PM
1

You better check it then, no one is going to inject men hormones that is insane. As if this isn't already happening...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:51 PM
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https://www.insider.com/isis-brides-asking-to-return-home-years-after-fleeing-for-syria-2019-2
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:19 PM
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https://youtu.be/ErB02IIPSzE
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:15 PM
1

This is unironically the type of mother figure he really needed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:10 PM
3

So being in touch with your emotions enough, and trusting of your partner enough, to share a tough experience like that instead of bottling it up inside and letting it manifest in unhealthy ways. "Nah, that requires me to be supportive of you in a way that I would expect you to be of me.....so not what I meant by sensitive" - women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:53 PM
4

TRP is men realizing the world doesn't care about them. Black guys already grow up learning those lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:39 AM
28

Bernie let the DNC cuck him twice. That is not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 06:28 PM
1

In the modern world you have that option too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:25 PM
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Suicide is a luxury. The things that killed humans in much greater numbers have been reduced. We don't worry about dying of dysentery, small pox, warfare where 10s of thousands died in a single battle. I say the world is a much better place for humanity if the greatest threat you face is from yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:49 PM
2

Young men get the worst deal. Young men having a tougher time in the modern dating scene does not justify flipping the table and upsetting the entire system. You are alive at the zenith of human advancement. Especially if you live in the west, there has never been a better time to be a human being (man or woman) in terms of life expectancy, quality of life, etc.) We are living in life on easy mode compared to men in the past and I believe most men are rational enough to know throwing that and al…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:38 PM
9

I have next to no relationship with my brother. I had to cut him off when he became obsessed with Blade Runner: 2049 Say sike right now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:49 PM
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Underrated comment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:40 AM
1

I always find the translations (this is what she says, this is what she means) to be very helpful. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:28 AM
1

I always find the translations (this is what she says, this is what she means) to be very helpful. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:27 AM
1

I always find the translations (this is what she says, this is what she means) to be very helpful. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:27 AM
1

I hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 12:34 PM
1

Well the consequences of a failed marriage are very usually higher than for a failed LTR but sure you can go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:25 AM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:19 AM
1

Don't need a guarantee to avoid a bad bet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:17 AM
1

Yep. Don't get married if you want good odds of happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:14 AM
1

This must be the infrared pill lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:05 PM
1

Half of couples gets divorce, there is still another half No guarantee that all those who don't divorce are happy though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:47 PM
1

illegal where I live… Not trying to pry so don't be specific, but is this a western country? I've never heard of paternity tests being illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:46 PM
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No one in TRP thinks you can get a hot young girl without putting in the work to make yourself a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:53 PM
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Relationships and marriage are risky to men in the west no matter what. If I can lose my ass to miss frumpy land whale just as easily as her hot younger sister, well then the higher reward makes up for the risk for many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:47 PM
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The usual scenario is a middle aged man dating a high school kid freshly turned adult or a girl in early college age. One day guys are delusional if they want a much younger woman. The next day it's the usual scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:08 PM
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If men are affected this much from watching porn, imagine how messed up high n-count women are? Yes, men can't compete with those characters but they don't have to. Women kind of do have to compete with women in porn because these people actually exist. This is why high n-count women are worse than porn addicted men. We both compete against real people, but for her it's real people she actually met and slept with in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:25 PM
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1) It’s limited to a specific age range between the sexes, but humans aren’t limited to dating people within a specific age range. People on the edges of the age range are going to skew the numbers if their partners are outside of the age range. Not specific to one gender. 2) Single only means “not married”. Those in monogamous or poly relationships are included in this. So this stat doesn’t accurately portray the “casual sex market”. So most women are sharing the same few men for casual sex and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 06:32 PM
2

I believe the judgement is: Bald = unattractive Maybe more specifically low T or bad genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:22 PM
2

So you have never seen someone judge another based their appearance? Have you not heard "don't judge a book by it's cover?" It's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 06:50 PM
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Agreed. I know alot of guys who have been more successful finding wives overseas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:08 PM
1

Men and women are not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:51 AM
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Unless you think that monkeys give consent to each other, rape is natural. It is not legal because we live in a civilized society but it is absolutely natural. There are no laws in the jungle except survival of the fittest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:10 PM
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are hilarious and pathetic. I'm still a rampaging pinko Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 08:29 PM
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Ask them what? To stop treating women like low mental capacity children? I'm just amused that women are ok with that or just not smart enough to realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:02 PM
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Women need to do better, why should there have to be hiring quotas or special programs to get more women into STEM fields?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:56 PM
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I did not say WIC and others were cash, nor did I say you could live off them. I said women get gov subsidies if they cannot afford their children. Men get risk of imprisonment. You then said women have to be employed to receive gov subsidies. Then I said WIC, which is a gov. (Food) subsidy. Now let's see how far you move the goalpost again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:38 AM
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So you first said you can't get government subsidies without employment. I proved you wrong by invoking WIC, a government food subsidy. You really love moving these goalposts but doesn't make it seem like you are debating im good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:18 AM
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Look it up if you don’t believe me. I looked it up, you don't need a job to qualify for WIC. This is a government subsidy which I argued women can get with no income if they cannot afford their child. Men are afforded no subsidies for child support and can face imprisonment for being unable to support their children. Wic is food and formula. See above. It is still a government subsidy for women who can't provide for their children. You falsely stated one would need an income for government subsi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:02 PM
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Hopefully alot more now. I think traditionally it is mostly divorce raped dads, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:43 PM
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TIL you need employment to qualify for WIC, tax credits, and other government subsidies... Unless your poor, you don’t go to jail for not paying CS. Just don't be poor bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:42 PM
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Your alternative involves a time machine for many on here lol. These guys couldn't get a HVW when they were young so hopefully with TRPs advice they can increase their SMV to acquire one now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:40 PM
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I didn't say this applied to all things but nice try! Take heed Men, they will try to shame you into taking their best interests over your own. That's why PPD is a bunch of wine aunts telling young men to chase promiscuous women in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:37 PM
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Usually more feminine and less jaded than her older counterpart though. Honestly the more society tries to discourage or shame men for this, the more I realize it must be in men's best interest to pursue younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:46 PM
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I would have to see the stats but me personally I think the risk is high enough either way with the modern woman. I may as well take my chances with a younger, more beautiful lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:36 PM
0

a high-quality older woman? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:06 PM
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Exactly. And men are right to be cautious when that same imprisonment risk is almost 0% for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:35 PM
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Because older women are the alternative to younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:31 PM
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I'm sure that half includes men used to pay but suddenly couldn't for reasons outside their control (medical emergency, laid-off at work, etc) and now they are in jail because that's what happens to men who can't support their kids. Women who can't support their kids get government subsidies instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:13 PM
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The point is the term "alt-right" is thrown around so much it is pretty much meaningless as most people who are called that do not subscribe to those extreme racist beliefs. The few who actually call themselves alt-right should probably be referred to as white supremacists or just racists as that is more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:16 PM
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The problem is that too many different groups are called "alt-right". From Jordan Peterson to Pewdiepie. It really doesn't mean anything except just an insult leftists use for people they find "problematic"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:48 PM
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There absolutely is a system. In the U.S. for example women's bad choices of whom to sleep with will still be subsidized by the rest of society. Without this and other social stigma that used to be prevalent women are released from the consequences of their choices at the expense of good men who used to have a mate and larger stake in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:50 PM
0

There absolutely is a system. In the U.S. for example women's bad choices of whom to sleep with will still be subsidized by the rest of society. Without this and other social stigma that used to be prevalent women are released from the consequences of their choices at the expense of good men who used to have a mate and larger stake in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:49 PM
0

There absolutely is a system. In the U.S. for example women's bad choices of whom to sleep with will still be subsidized by the rest of society. Without this and other social stigma that used to be prevalent women are released from the consequences of their choices at the expense of good men who used to have a mate and larger stake in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:49 PM
5

The real black pill: even your own mother would rather you be an incel than be exciting to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 09:17 PM
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Only those with no standards remain
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:37 PM
1

Ah ok cool. Cuz tons of guys in accounting look like the rock apparently. Or even enough to support this argument lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 02:18 AM
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Omg, these girls posting as examples of literally the top .01% of good genetics in bone structure and face. Also millionaire movie stars by the way. See? Girls like bald guys lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:50 AM
1

Just smother her bro lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 02:26 AM
0

Just become a Muslim bro lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 11:47 PM
1

Where are all the good men articles are more in the mainstream than where are all the good women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 09:58 PM
2

Damn that was brutal lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 05:38 PM
1

When women run out of sound arguments, the personal attacks begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 05:23 PM
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Men definitely reach their prime at a later age, there is no denying that but I am a firm believer than women do to in terms of what they want and need from a partner. Women reaching their prime is having higher expectations? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/20 04:59 PM
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Stand strong Kings! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:12 PM
1

Calling men names won't change how they feel. More men are realizing these shaming tactics for what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:58 PM
1

If those two points don't matter to you that's fine. They matter to men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 02:35 AM
2

Shifting goalposts. I said not all women pair up and your produced evidence to that claim. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:34 PM
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I said not all women paired up, then you posted stats to agree with me. Ok cool. Do you realize the 80/20 rule mostly pertains to dating and or hookups, not really marriage so it seems like you are confused about the subject matter entirely. And I never called these women holding out for the one an epidemic, but even your own stats show that the amount of not married adults is actually increasing. So really you just saved me the effort by posting evidence for me. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 05:21 PM
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The attacking man often has higher levels of aggression and the element of surprise. Anyone who has ever been in a fight knows how important those are. The best fighter in the world is easier to dispatch if you catch him off guard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:59 PM
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You are assuming that every woman pairs up, they don't. Some hold out for their dream man forever rather than their actual match. You are also assuming women do not share men, if he is high status enough, they absolutely will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:28 PM
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What they eventually settle for and what they really want are two different things. Women initiating 70% of all divorces tells us this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:27 PM
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What he stated is pretty much the TRP stance so not sure which men you are talking about when you say ALOT of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:45 PM
1

TRP doesn't say that only Chad gets sex BTW
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:43 PM
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Should be learned/taught at home. School system is to women-oriented to let that happen and all these divorce raped dads should be warning their sons anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:29 PM
2

This right here is all that needs to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 08:28 PM
3

Never thought about that before but you are right. I've been following/reading red pill books, forums, articles for a long time and they never used to use the term "Chad" that I can remember anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:07 PM
2

Why not? They have money, social status (know other important, trendy, and rich people), the lower class wants to be them and very few upper class would be upset to share a limo/table with them. Sounds high class to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 10:23 PM
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Lmc/lc girls take all their fashion/beauty cues from the rich and famous. Kim K, Beyonce, etc. are all emulated. Not saying they are always successful but they do try to make themselves a working class version of these high class heroes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 10:11 PM
1

I have never met a "real" American UMC that ever referred to themselves as "intelligentsia". Sometimes PPD reads so much like fan-fiction lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 10:07 PM
1

I mean, either it's bad to be a slut or it's not. Guys instinctively know it's bad but the response from these women just confirms it so I don't care when they call me insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 10:57 PM
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Either there is nothing wrong with it and ladies should be proud and own it. Or it is an insult and not a good way to live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 08:49 PM
1

What is your point? For different reasons, many men with options don't want to LTR sluts. I just wish women didn't try to shame these men into changing their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:57 PM
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I agree with you if a woman is up front with her past behavior and doesn't try to deceive. Many women will hide and attempt to deceive men in regards to their sexual past. I have seen that in real life and also women on here encourage others to do it. Doesn't really matter because the signs are there and eventually the truth comes out or becomes self-evident. I wish more women could be like you and just own it, but instead they get super defensive and start shaming men for having a different pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 07:21 PM
1

Distinction without a difference. Why does it matter whether a guy thinks it's wrong for his partner to be a slut or is disgusted by his partner being a slut? Either way it is not something he wants and all other things being equal, most men will pick the partner who doesn't have a slutty history over another one who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 04:24 PM
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Actually yes. Your father would be grossed out at the details of your sex life because you are his daughter. As an unspoken rule you allow him to cope with that disgust by not talking to him about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 02:46 PM
1

AFBB
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/02/20 04:13 AM
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If someone says they aren't bothered by your sexual past but don't want to hear about it. They absolutely do care about it and it does/would bother them. The i don't want to hear about it is literally a cope, and people don't try to cope with things they are cool with lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/20 12:11 AM
1

Massive red pills being dropped here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:57 PM
2

Apology accepted
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:10 PM
3

Well I agree stable women exist it is just hard to find them when so many women are on antidepressants, etc. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/884285
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:09 PM
2

No you said A club promoter generally markets his club to the general populace as opposed to going woman to woman bringing them in. I said they do not focus on the general population but instead focus on getting women in. This is why there is ladies night and not men's night.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:04 PM
1

Do you think PPD exists to specifically discuss your grandma and her friends or sexual interactions between the general population? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 11:00 PM
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No they market to women because men go where the women are. Ever heard of men's night? Or how about ladies night? Clubs will waive women's cover charge just to get them in the door so guys will come and spend their money buying those women drinks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:56 PM
2

No, these women will be submissive for the right man, for a strong, dominant man. And they have admitted as much on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:50 PM
4

Where are the stable women? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:44 PM
1

Beta buddy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 10:41 PM
1

Should be top comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 02:09 PM
1

No they are killing themselves because of shitty women, divorce rape, etc. Suicide rates of men go up after divorce. In this way warning men by spreading TRP is literally lifesaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/20 01:58 PM
1

Women do want these men, but if you want to be more than friends with them you still have to pass the attraction threshold first.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 08:28 PM
21

90-10 rule, good Lord it's getting worse? Lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/02/20 04:19 PM
1

Men don't use the term creepy to imply ugly, and it is clear that women do. Therefore it is hard for me to see this alleged hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:25 PM
2

I don't even have a reddit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 02:10 PM
1

It's easy. If my partner tells me she cheated on me I will be upset. I can be upset that she cheated and it doesn't change my perspective to want honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/20 06:01 PM
1

I think downvoting is against the rules in here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 10:29 PM
2

You may be the exception, and that's fine, but most consider it impolite
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 08:33 PM
2

It's just a random, unsubstantiated claim made against you. No biggie lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:43 PM
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How is it hypocritical? She had the same opportunity when she was younger to start a family, it's not this random mans fault that she waited until she was 35 and now wants to make her problem his problem also. Men call it desperate because that's what it is, these women wasted their own time and no one feels sorry for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/20 05:29 PM
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Would that opinion not make him red pilled though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 07:37 PM
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It's common knowledge that red pill men on here don't like women with high n counts. And then the women call them insecure man babies. So if anything that bisexual thread was a gotcha for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 08:59 PM
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So can a guy have similar sexual boundaries? Most women don't like when men Wants to know your n-count and we'll just say the past is the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 10:17 PM
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A high value man won't ask n-count but will look for clues. Just have to listen and watch and a woman will show you who she is. Look at the woman in the description you are replying to. Always catered to, always entertained, has tons of options. Do you think this type of girl will be hard to read?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 03:14 PM
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My point is guys can spot these guys pretty easy so get frustrated women claim "he changed"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 09:21 PM
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Women say this, but whenever they point to an ex and say he was abusive most other men can look at him and not be surprised. The alcoholic in and out of jail with a gambling problem is abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 10:26 PM
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She chose them too. Wow the mental gymnastics of women is amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 09:49 PM
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Well I don't personally frame it as all media, but media directed at me. Which is still very insidious. Also they are arguing against society in general, so not just media but female authority figures like mothers, teachers, etc. Who push the same narrative. At the end of the day I think they have real grievances and most women just are not sympathetic in the same degree that men are now sympathetic to womens issues
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 01:50 AM
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No one is blaming you personally For the way the media indoctrinates young boys/men. But your responses to their situation Is the same disgust that most women have for men who just don't get it. Ie. Men who aren't naturals. Women in PPD shoving red pills of truth down our throats. Men just need to come here and read lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:55 AM
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I agree with you. It's obvious if you know what to look for. A growing segment of men are holding to the ideas of the media that is made for them and are not figuring this out on their own. Maybe not a majority but a sizable amount, enough that it is discussed more and more online. The red pill offers these men a path to knowledge they couldn't figure out on their own. And that upsets alot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:37 AM
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Intentional or not I'm just telling you why men feel lied to if media targeting them paints an unrealistic picture of the nature of women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:33 AM
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No, they say men are being spoon-fed lies. Subtle but important difference
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:22 AM
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Men are upset because they are deliberately fed a false narrative. Then women say oh it existed, it's just your fault for not watching shows made to appeal to women. Talk about gaslighting lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:18 AM
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So the media deliberately present a different and false view on women's nature to men. Well those men shouldn't have liked media that was created for them, duh lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:13 AM
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Even the women in here are shoving red pills down our throats. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:10 AM
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Just stop being indoctrinated bro lol. That's literally the red pill argument but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:08 AM
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It really does sound worse when you consider the decline could be deliberately orchestrated rather than just us being idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 12:05 AM
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Free to do whatever you want. My point is all the above Are consequences to Society for those actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:43 PM
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Ok gotcha. I know there was a study that women only found top 20% of men above average attractiveness. So that's what I meant by a bottleneck for evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:42 PM
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No, but I've talked to the guys that do. They pretty much admit It's only because they are bad with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:30 PM
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Well, you probably don't notice Society telling men to step up Because you are not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:28 PM
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So women only choose the best or are attracted to a wide range of men? Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:26 PM
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You asked for the consequences. So I listed them. That's all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 11:25 PM
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Think you explained some of the angry women on PPD lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:44 PM
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Well I do see more "where are all the good men" type articles alot more than "I didn't get to become an astronaut"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 07:34 PM
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Safer? Yes. Better? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:16 PM
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Single motherhood, the welfare state required to subsidize them. Funds that could be put to more productive use if she instead created a family with a stable man who could provide for them without my tax dollars. Also the cycle of poverty, criminals, etc. that come from broken homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:14 PM
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Life needs genetic diversity to evolve. Only few men passing on their genes creates a huge bottleneck that will hinder progress of a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/20 06:11 PM
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Higher rates of divorce, higher rates of single motherhood, fewer men feeling sexually satisfied. If blue pill is the status quo then I think it's fair to hear the red pill guys out at least lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 11:44 PM
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If men were able to hold women down so long then they literally are better
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 05:30 PM
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That's what the excuses sound like to me "well she is an adult but she is younger than him, he should expect to be abused!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 04:34 PM
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This is so bizarre. If you think patriarchy means being assigned a spouse then there has never been widespread patriarchy in the USA at least. Which begs the question, why are feminists so upset about something that never existed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 09:19 PM
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Oh I guess you asked all 3 billion women alive? Good grief lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 12:18 AM
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It's either one or the other, are you serious? Lol people are alot more diverse and nuanced than that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 12:03 AM
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Being low n-count doesn't automatically mean you don't like sex and will avoid it in a serious relationship or marriage. Sometimes it is done for cultural or religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 12:01 AM
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I don't believe you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 06:25 PM
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I've seen the chad fishing chats and mostly women having pretty genuine seeming convos and yet totally brushing off these guys saying they are rapists, etc. The women aren't saying like "subscribe to my channel or click here for nudes" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 05:44 PM
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If even half are real women that says alot though
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:34 PM
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I'm so confused. So you are saying I'm wrong some people do not like men having preferences and I notice it doesn't as often go the other way? Also not sure about your auxillary point but maybe I have no experience with whatever kind of hurt people you are meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 03:03 AM
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Probably spent more time with ppl that experience hate and oppression than most american posters, unless you think poor Americans have it worse than people in third world countries facing actual genocide/holy wars, etc. So not sheltered but my point was that i am not ignorant to those kinds of people and circumstances. The rest of what you said about rolling backpacks is true. Yes people can and should let them know how they feel about their preferences, I wouldn't stifle free speech. Guess I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:42 AM
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Exactly. I was arguing against your point that I'm too sheltered to know the difference. When I never said that being called a square is the worst thing ever, and in fact it is tame compared to what guys who have preferences are usually called. Point is preferences are usually encouraged in women and shamed in men. And usually it is women doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 11:50 PM
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Ah yeah you're probably right
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:30 PM
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I've been in combat twice, being called a square isn't the worst thing I've seen happen to someone. And to be fair it is pretty tame compared to what guys usually hear for having preferences in women. But it is still a far cry from the "you go girl!" That most women get when stating their laundry list of preferences for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 10:10 PM
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Men are being more choosey and less begging. Guess that's why so many people get so upset at someone else's personal preferences lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:50 PM
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I rarely see this much as hate at someone's innocent choices unless it's a man having preferences. But if you are an exception then cool. Still seems like you're upset though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:47 PM
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Don't hate the messenger hate the data lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:45 PM
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Apology accepted
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:43 PM
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Women seem to hate when men have their own preferences. The shaming language never ends lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:42 PM
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Infidelity, passing off someone else's kid as your own, divorce rape........ these kinds of women can be very abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:36 PM
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Does it matter how close he is if he can see what he sees anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:34 PM
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No one was speaking in absolutes Cool you are an outlier but no one did a study on you and your preferences. And I have data to prove my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:23 PM
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You minimized the importance of tough dirty jobs men do by saying Society doesn't need strength that much anymore and then gave the overabundance of tertiary jobs as an example. Am I being Seagulled? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:21 PM
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Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:13 PM
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An employer not calling me back for a job isn't the same as a potential mate rejecting me. One is a business decision, the other is someone deeming my genetic line unworthy of continuation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:10 PM
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Whataboutism lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 09:00 PM
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Just because there are way more tertiary jobs doesn't mean they are more important to civilization. In fact you can't even have tertiary jobs without the primary and secondary ones. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 08:56 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201812/feminists-think-sexist-men-are-sexier-woke-men The women who say they hate misogyny the most are the ones who secretly love it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 08:53 PM
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We now have countries that have much less problems with gender equality and they're doing fine. Look at Norway, for example. Sweden is considered a fully feminist (gender equality) country https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/world/europe/international-womens-day-feminism.html And yet rape cases are increasing, wouldn't call that having much less problems https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-27/rape-case-surge-puts-focus-on-crime-as-swedish-election-looms?utm_source=url_link What happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 08:39 PM
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Society doesn't need strenght that much anymore, your point is outdated. How privileged to not even realize all the tough and dirty jobs men have to do to keep our society running lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 08:25 PM
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I'm interested to hear what his female brained vibes are because this seems like just a thinly veiled attack lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 08:16 PM
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Because higher insurance premiums do affect me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 08:04 PM
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I'm didn't say women watch more porn in general or that I know the reason they would have certain preferences. I just said women watch more rape porn which that article says.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 02:29 AM
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When I was growing up no one told me anything about six foot being a lot of women's the minimum criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:45 PM
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https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:47 PM
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I thought it was women who watch more "rape" porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:04 PM
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You guys talking about "back then" and what normal men would do, realize this kind of stuff happens right now in war torn third world counties. Genocide, human slavery, and rape is a real thing in those places.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:04 PM
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Real world? Go look at real world places with no law and order. Rape and worse does happen regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:01 PM
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Had a bunch of women on another thread today basically agreeing that red pill is right about the nature of women, but that they can't be upfront because they think guys will harm them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:35 PM
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I don't think women with dating profiles are outliers. Especially since we are discussing gender dynamics between people who date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:55 PM
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If women only find the top 20% of men attractive then most men do not have the experience to spot red flags, hence TRP shows them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:49 PM
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This is why men need the red pill, society doesn't warn men about women like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:45 PM
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This just in, women admit the red pill is mostly accurate, but it's more convenient for them to lie. Also why are you hanging out with incels or aggressive dudes that you don't feel comfortable being yourself around?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:40 PM
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Just don't date a woman with a hidden agenda bro lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:22 PM
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If you think it often plays out that women cheat when drunk how do we know they aren't intentionally putting themselves in those situations so they can shrink responsibility for their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:20 PM
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The thing is men are socialized to be wary of strange men, but to go out of their way to help strange women. Never taught to be wary or expect bad of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 05:13 PM
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If you are already feeling it at 28 then the wall more real than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 01:43 AM
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They have to be intentionally misunderstanding you. I mean come on, really? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:57 PM
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Yeah, if the extra info given is accurate and relevant. When you are taller than a 5'9" man in every heel size you will ever wear, but still give a heel height excuse as a reason you need to date a guy 6'3".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:55 PM
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Discuss without rule of law now Men are very much appreciated for the security they provide
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:19 PM
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I'm just saying, these guys aren't pulling "women love criminals" out of thin air like some are suggesting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 08:37 PM
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I think you said the other day that a woman's idea of alpha male is a drug dealer and a criminal?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:18 PM
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I'm not going to look up stats but alcohol related deaths and arrests are a thing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 05:08 PM
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If you don't want to get taken advantage of, don't get married lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 03:20 PM
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Just be able to tell with 100% certainty when people are not being completely honest, bro lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:11 PM
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Just throw away all the future plans you had for the rest of your life and divorce bro, it's easy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 10:09 PM
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To a wife who resents the fact that you weren't her first choice. Dead bedroom, High rates of divorce, initiated overwhelmingly by women. I guess I can just see why a lot of guys are pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 11:03 PM
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Well when they were told to be good to get a gf/wife, no one told them that is actually the exact opposite traits that were most attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 10:47 PM
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