The term BB is too limiting. More and more often, women often lock down a beta man for his predictability and obedience, not necessarily his bux.

Aaren_Augustine · 2020-02-27T17:00:54+00:00

You are incorrect in taking Beta Bux too literally if you think it's limiting. And this isn't to be taken literally either, but there is a reflective nature in saying women need security like men need sex.

Its not too limiting to see that women and their hypermagiggles want it all. Now, these days women can find "enough" security in a career.

She may still enjoy his added resources but they are a secondary consideration.

They aren't secondary consideration and no smart woman will see it as secondary. My wife makes about 13k more than me, but we make a lot. The added stability is a night and day difference between just someone who can make around a 100k and adding a spouse that makes an additional 85k.

I've been calling this the "subordinate boyfriend."

Can you envision men in relationships or married that aren't spineless weaklings? Because there's plenty of them. And you're fucking yourself over by making it too binary. Because if you never become absolute alpha you'll categorize yourself as absolute beta and cock block yourself into an early grave.

XtoDoubt · 2020-02-27T17:14:03+00:00

Beta bux is a misnomer. It's more like beta comfort, but that doesn't flow off of the tongue as well as bb. I don't think anyone in trp classifies someone as beta on money alone.

petrichordium · 2020-02-27T16:55:52+00:00

Do you think this should maybe recontextualize the value of money and success for men who AREN’T psychologically subordinate to their partners?

Basically. Do you think it’s useful to put these “subordinate bfs” into the same reductive beta bucket alongside men who simply aren’t ONS-only fuckboys?

So much of the current manosphere involves discouraging men from basic forms of courtship because apparently spending money ever in a woman’s eyesight = BETA. I think this is a deeply stupid attitude that shoots basic men in the foot for either pussy OR partnerships. Especially men whose strengths will NEVER be the charismatic club player.

So basically do you think acknowledging this will lead to a richer understanding of male sexual personae, or do you think it will just contribute to the bleak collage of self loathing men increasingly make? Basically this should be an exercise in DIFFERENCE, not fusing together disparate archetypes of men into one hopeless beta strawman.

wtknight · 2020-02-27T18:15:47+00:00

In other words, many women who are done with AF still get with a 'BB' because he's safe and will follow her lead and never leave her first.

Why would a woman decide to be with a man like this if it’s not primarily for his resources?

teibe · 2020-02-27T18:01:32+00:00

Men say they wish women would select men based on character but isn't this exactly what is described here?

Xemnas81 · 2020-02-27T19:12:08+00:00

That's the Beta in BB lol

infps · 2020-02-27T19:43:16+00:00

I have seen exactly this in Asia in a lot of "post wall" women (and there that often means age > 30..... maybe 32 or so in these progressive times.).

I had a girlfriend who was my date to a few such weddings and fond of pointing out that the men generally appeared "Easy to steer where you want them to go."

sadomasochrist · 2020-02-27T22:37:13+00:00

That is bucks. Provisioning covers comfort traits.

PMShine1 · 2020-02-27T23:07:00+00:00

It's all bullshit. Red Pillers will move the goalposts to make any scenario fit into their ideology.

TheHeartBrokenPrince · 2020-02-27T23:37:58+00:00

OP's arguement is destroyed by the percentage of single women over 30, which is a rapidly rising figure

24_7_AMOGGER · 2020-02-28T01:09:04+00:00

"Bux" is just a euphemism for "provision" or "provider". Predictability and obedience are provider traits.

Sid_Insidious · 2020-03-01T05:06:57+00:00

I think the idea is that the quintessential Chad doesn't "pay" for sex (earn it) where Beta Boy needs to jump through serious hoops PLUS show he can provide.

AF/BB means she wants Chad for his genes, and Brad for what's in his jeans. $$$

Get it? Ok, good. because I gotta go LIFT BRAH.

majani · 2020-02-28T02:46:33+00:00

For the love of - this isn't a gendered thing. Dominant people want partners who are a little more submissive. It's pretty much impossible to have a relationship where the power balance is exactly 50/50.

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Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2020-02-27T17:19:03+00:00

Take off the “bux” and the model still holds.

OverEasyFetus · 2020-02-28T00:16:23+00:00

Those men are disgusting, I hate them with a passion. Little cretins.

CHAD_TDK · 2020-02-28T02:57:43+00:00

Predictability and obedience without being a decent provider don't go far enough.

DXBrigade · 2020-02-28T20:44:05+00:00

Next time they are gonna complain that women choose men who actually commit to them. The problem is not that women exploit men who are spineless simps but that these men are spineless simps.

SeemedGood · 2020-02-28T21:47:48+00:00

Q: But why are predictability and obedience important characteristics to seek?

A: They indicate a higher probability of stable long-term provision (aka more expected bux).

passepar2t · 2020-02-27T20:45:50+00:00

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bonusfruit · 2020-02-27T20:04:43+00:00

Either way, no guy wants to be the bb

NixieNik99 · 2020-02-28T01:29:00+00:00

Most men are not going to be top built good looking CEOs . Most men will just work menial jobs and be average to good looking . I think personally it's the female who will have to learn through experience that there are very limited men in those top tier areas . She will have to of sorts date down to find a LTR . This is good for the common man right ?
Just a thought maybe the Alphas should be worried about the Betas . Really don't think men who want a family and have a genetic relevance in this world are Beta technically . Just a thought .

Title	The term BB is too limiting. More and more often, women often lock down a beta man for his predictability and obedience, not necessarily his bux.
Author	passepar2t
Upvotes	28
Comments	107
Date	February 27, 2020 4:41 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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