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| 1 | When you're dating a guy who's a long term / serious prospect, how do you decide whether to hook up with him first or delay sex until you're both serious/exclusive?It's reasonable. I mean, IRL the chat about monogamy often happens after the hookup. Like, "Hey, lets stop seeing other people." Sometimes the "Lets get tested and toss the condoms" chat happens before that, but usually after that first hookup, which is about when "this is monogamy" comes into the picture. No? Am I talking weird here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/24 10:16 PM |
| 3 | Men are worse off than women in all developed countries. This is so controversial that UN falsifies the Gender Development Index to hide this factSome people fetishize the trappings of academia as if they are moves to make playing checkers with idiots on reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 02:47 PM |
| 2 | Men are worse off than women in all developed countries. This is so controversial that UN falsifies the Gender Development Index to hide this factI'm not googling this for the next 20 minutes for you, but I have an undergrad in Sociology focused on Gender studies and what they are talking about is definitely a thing. I graduated in 2007, so I cannot recall the citations (these days I'm in engineering anyways). Your trail is things like intersectionality, POC feminism, feminist critiques of feminism. If you have a GPT 4o subscription, it might help you. Bell Hooks, as someone said, seems like a good candidate to search. She was notably cri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Widespread internet usage killed romance, not feminism or the economyWe had economic ups and downs and plenty of feminism up through the late 1990s, which most people here seem to agree was a much easier time for people to meet each other and organically just fall together and have sex, and that happen a lot, for the Culturally stereotype serial monogamy of the middle class (or the absurd sluttiness of the lower classes and controlled sluttiness of the upper classes). If not the internet, what? We had plenty of feminists like Mary Daly in Universities (I went and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 10:06 PM |
| 11 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.the biggest self-improvement for any man happens in a relationship. I remember this line from the height of PUA. 2007 era RSD "Get this handled and everything else will be set to fall into place." Frankly, it just isn't true for a lot of people. Plenty grow more in careers, or doing something they really love and feel can change the world, or even just following to the end point of making art or doing sports or something else where they become genuinely surprised with their own beauty and power.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 02:09 PM |
| 2 | Women complaining from not getting approached anymoreI was in strategy consulting. I am recently in civil construction management and finishing my double master of engineering this semester. These are multi floor industrial facilities - everyone at my level is engineering trained and surprisingly progressive. But I do get a lot of hillbilly sexism in the trades working the projects. A long time ago, in another world, I was an English Teacher. The thing is, for someone brought up modern upper middle class American with business working types as par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 01:48 PM |
| 6 | Women complaining from not getting approached anymoreI would agree. If I'm standing in a room solving some problem with a colleague, it's not like we're bothering about sex and gender. We're using sterile language, wearing corporate uniforms, and staring at computer packages, not each others packages. Frankly, I barely notice my female colleagues as being female and my male colleagues as being male. The male colleagues will make coarser comments sometimes (sometimes), but that's about the extent of the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 02:26 PM |
| 3 | Women complaining from not getting approached anymoreHere's something odd along the lines of what you are saying. I am a relatively high performing assignably male (however, transgendered and have taken hormones on and off for many years, depending on what I wear, I can get a 'ma'am'). I have years of experience in strategy consulting, 2 masters degrees in engineering. I have walked into so many circumstances and provided excellent solutions to problems, and my own standards for myself are high (probably chips on my shoulders). Someone earlier thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 02:23 PM |
| 6 | Women complaining from not getting approached anymoreEveryone needs plausible deniability in flirtation. To turn plausible deniability strategies into policies and business models seems utterly clueless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Women complaining from not getting approached anymoreI don't get it. I never thought this in the 1990s. I did not see the "creepy" frame show up until sometime mid 200x's. Women never seemed to me to want to be "left alone." Now, some women would want to play the class/leagues games and would act as if the approach was out of calibration, but isn't that also obviously just a play? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 01:17 PM |
| 0 | Blue pillers and Red pillers agree on somethings, one of which is "The guy has to wait his turn"To be fair I went back to college for M.Eng and am at a T-20 university campus. (Dating two women regularly, would frankly date a lot more but... it turns out engineering graduate school is non-trivial). This forum is strange though. Do you notice just how lonely everyone out there in real life seems to be? Like if you give a little attention and are cool and happy and nice to deal with, they want to just glom on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 02:31 AM |
| 29 | Blue pillers and Red pillers agree on somethings, one of which is "The guy has to wait his turn"I don't know your framing exactly on all this. I will say that at 44, I find dating trivially easy. Female peers do sometimes literally try to jump my bones. Younger women do sometimes want to go out, make first moves, get attached, get swoony, etc. My own belief is that people now are very very lonely on average, and just being friendly and cool and somewhat healthy and lean will get someone a long way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 10:10 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI mean, this forum overdoes the "achievement" angle of all this, and is hyper gender normative. But there are whole subsections of the world where you can use entirely different approaches and frames and be fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 02:22 AM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADSo one of my girlfriends picked a pair of glasses for me that are... too big. But she insisted they're cute (and what the heck, we're going to New York City next week together). Well, since then I noticed the women around my university campus being way more OPEN, chatty. Smile, reach up, do their hair, blush, giggle, etc. I think people underrate themselves, so doing a bit of Nigel Farage tusseled hair equivalent (which kind of "takes him down a peg" in intimidation) can be a good thing. I do th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 12:59 AM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADI think the Bi-Femme man sex appeal is massively underrated on this forum. Yeah, there are Chads who are totally ripped and stuff, but the femme/thin/obviously-bi crossover look has served me all my life, never been lonely and am less so now than ever. I have met other AMABs running that pattern just fine as well. The other thing I notice these days, out here in the real world in 2024 is people are so profoundly lonely. If you can cure someone's loneliness, like be the person they'll have a grea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:48 PM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADGo to an airport at 4:30 AM, when everyone just rolled out of bed and as in the long security line for their 5:15 flight. Sweats, no makeup, hair tied back, half barely brushed their teeth. You have to keep passing people, the line moves slowly, you can look at people. What you'll notice is that other than size, and maybe pink vs gray sweats, and haircuts -- it's hard to tell women from men without a lot of work put in for the women to look like they're halfway back to age 17. I think a lot of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 03:24 PM |
| – | MMA boyfriend gets pounded and girlfriend gets disgusted at it.The vast majority of martial artists in the world have dealt with most of their internal demons way better than normal people. They tend to be pretty internally peaceful compared to average. I can see where you would not understand this having not been around the culture of it. I grew up with an American Staffordshire Terrier (breed name of the Pit Bull). That dog was tough, and could take anything. Many times when I tried to start a small fire in the driveway, the dog put the whole thing out wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 04:21 PM |
| – | MMA boyfriend gets pounded and girlfriend gets disgusted at it.MMA is a honor duel, and the woman involved is someone who also participates in honor duels. The rules of honor duels include very specific issues about "face." "Oh no it's a real street fight." BullSHIT. In a real street fight, the guy has an ally you don't know who hits you in the back with a pool cue. Or someone throws salt in your eyes and breaks your knees. Etc. In a real street fight there is no tapping out and the only sensible answer is run. MMA is a style of honor duel and needs to be u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 04:09 PM |
| – | Whats the reason why Russian women want their man to be an ' handyman' or be able at fixing things in the house?I'm tempted to call BS for the reason that I'm pretty competent, but very few people are going to be competent at all of the above. Like, I'm a good carpenter and can fix anything non-computer and non-electric on your non-chrysler car. I can do electrical work. That's maybe the easiest of house work. But Plumbing? Shooooo.... fall and all that. It's hard. Even removing an old iron sink and putting in a lighter newer thing was a job I thought I wasn't going to be able to complete. That's the hard… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/24 03:03 AM |
| – | Whats the reason why Russian women want their man to be an ' handyman' or be able at fixing things in the house?With the amount of shit typical people can dish out on this reddit board, I might guess a high number. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/24 02:57 AM |
| – | Whats the reason why Russian women want their man to be an ' handyman' or be able at fixing things in the house?I'm the guy who isn't a pro, but is good at this stuff. I think the truth is closer to the middle. I just replaced some rotting boards on a corner of the house, set the proper tilt to the the gutters, etc. Tablesaw, used an old sled I made to cut the angles, etc. This kind of thing takes a lot of work and thought. But again, I'm not a pro, just competent at carpentry as a hobby. Same with fixing cars. Wife's Yaris motor moving around, vibrating. Needed motor mounts. I changed everything but the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/24 02:53 AM |
| 1 | What are some unique burdens that the opposite gender has?This is an interesting point, maybe the most interesting on the whole thread. Having serial monogamy with (mostly) women from 17 to now 44, and having a sister, I think you might be right. Actually, it is one of the most attractive things to me in a woman (I've been married twice, lived with for 1+ years 4 times).... can she just be happy/cool/relaxed? Like.... can I work, we hang out, go to the gym, eat some food, fuck, repeat, maybe walk around a park on the weekends, and there's no problem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 06:38 PM |
| 4 | The existence of the r/sextortion sub proves that men are not the smarter or more logical sexYeah, in some of the Romance Scams, the man has a PhD and is called a "Psychologist" and the woman pays by the hour to sit on a couch and talk about herself. These can go on for years, if the scammer is compatible. Men seldom seem to fall for these. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/23 04:54 PM |
| – | Why should men enter relationships when any woman has to power to legally easily ruin you life forever?I mean, I literally moved to Asia for 12 years. You are free to leave tthe system. Whatever reason you have for 'can't' is surely less than losing 40 years of your life or just being alone, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/23 10:27 PM |
| – | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?Bisexual women who SO dig that are a thing, man. And the sex is hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 02:17 PM |
| 9 | Do you feel that growing up in strict, religious environments makes men lack confidence?From what I have seen, it can make men have a lot of difficulty relating to or even looking at women properly. Particularly societies with strict separation (such as South India), tend to bend men towards being "creepy" without even knowing it, because they just haven't casually related to or even casually been around women in easygoing ways. If anyone is in a situation like that, I think the first step for them would be hanging out at mixed gender parties and just being cool and laid back and f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Do most girls actually flirt/sex/hookup with fboys while simultaneously developing connections with good genuine guys on the side?In the case of my family, pop was racking up the n-count, both overseas during the war (WWII) (which both of them were all-but open about) and more when he got home. Granny, as far as the records I could find after she died, had at least one boyfriend from childhood she would occasionally hook up with. Photo and love notes found deep in hassock. Still, 3 sons, all well educated, and 60+ years of marriage ain't bad. TL;DR: I guess also, who cares they also fucked someone else? What's the big deal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 08:10 PM |
| – | "No one owes you anything" is another battle women are going to loseThe study doesn't even say what he says it does. Can't people glance at an abstract without lying to themselves? The rest appears to be loads of projection. Any guess we're all being trolled and this is just a slightly edited GPT article? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 05:23 PM |
| – | Staring vs glancinghttps://www.lesswrong.com/tag/moloch No, but there are powerful tribal incentives to do the filming and provide the indignancy. And powerful $$$ incentives for tiktok to put it in your feed. Isn't this whole forum basically about people's responses to social incentives? TL;DR: Every word spoken about this and every watch means Tiktok VPs and CEO have such high SMR right now, they're uber chadwick and no one can compare to their their tunsten hard dicks. Like that episode of black mirror where th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/23 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Are women turned off more by guys being okay with their pasts than they let on?Asking them about their sexual history and being okay with it, is very different from you being turned on by that sexual history and using it in sexual play. What OP said didn't sound quite like this. More like she described some of the stuff she had done, then OP stroked his chin and said, "Wow, I had never thought of that. Sounds like fun." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 07:43 PM |
| 4 | Staring vs glancingThe point of the videos is two-fold: (1)Start arguments (which apparently it got you doing). It wouldn't do this if it were obvious/cut and dry/clear answer. Remember, it's a social media company. Attention is oil for the company. You're getting drilled. Consider deleting the app. (2)Allow expensive signaling to a tribe. This gets complicated, but if there is ambiguity or even better if something clearly isn't a case of "staring" but I swear up and down that it is, or say so publicly with a stra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 07:02 PM |
| 3 | Redpill ideology, when used actively to pursue women, puts someone in a similar mindset as a sexual predatorIf you're experiencing that, like from the Alien's perspective, it sounds more like the effects of Taking LSD than learning PUA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 10:53 AM |
| 5 | Redpill ideology, when used actively to pursue women, puts someone in a similar mindset as a sexual predatorI don't know, in my circle the loss of funds is often called "The best money you ever spent." Not that it's fun to spend it, but a year later you wonder why you waited so long. And what class are you in where you're going to fully lose custody of your children? Any man without a criminal record is going to get whatever he pursues in this arena, up to half, at least among any I have known. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 10:50 AM |
| 3 | Redpill ideology, when used actively to pursue women, puts someone in a similar mindset as a sexual predatorf women accepted that sex and intimacy is as important as other elemts that make the relationship exist Literally every girlfriend I have ever had knew this, if nothing else from reading pop psychology and caring about relationships. Even if I am working all the time, traveling, or currently grad-school plus consulting, most of the time a girlfriend will simply bring it up if a couple of weeks go by and sex gets put off: "We need to make more time for sex." Often it's literally in terms of "This… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Watching people be unaware of their type is funny.This is interesting. I like tomboys and highly educated women, a good argument, eyes that glisten with intellect. My current LTR has PhD and is a professor and she sometimes complains that people assume she's a lesbian. My previous LTR was a logistics coordinator, almost as smart as the PhD, and quite a tomboy. Previous LTR was just coming off successive LTRs with women, and at the time, I was taking a more Estradiol and had enough curves my dad once commented in a photo of me at a distance, "Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:27 AM |
| 1 | It's honestly extremely based that society is just tearing apart at the seams and neolibs/bluepills are like "Hell yea man, products to consume"Liberal-ass Berniecrat Gen-xer with an Undergrad in Sociology/Gender Studies here who thinks Red Pills are only for Autists and Narcs. And I think we're in for 10+ years of War, and I note that in the USA both halves of the citzenry seems to think the other half should die off as fast as possible, which is insane. I also think ecological cataclysm and economic problems and even governance problems in general will be solved or we will die. Also, we might face runaway AI. Moreover, most of my lib-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/23 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Male friendships suck just as much, if not more than female ones todayhttps://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/09/real_men_want_to_drink_guinnes.html 'Dedication. Loyalty. Friendship. I'm sorry, is this an ad for beer or golden retrievers? Why not "good nutrition" or "isn't always yapping about her frenemies"? Just because the guy saying them sounds like a man doesn't mean these words are branding for men. Usually "male" values are the things you have to teach or encourage people to do, like bravery, or sacrifice, or stoicism, where the default, the easier thing, is t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Past promiscuity stances from RP are misleadingSometimes you unexpectedly meet people. You still rule out this possibility that the poster above said. I have had this happen also, and it can upset a whole life. It's like being mid-career in something and coming across experiences in another field that drive a major change. This happens. It doesn't imply anything other than something came along that changed your mind, made you evolve, and think and live differently. It could just as easily be read as a good thing if you were open to framing i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:13 PM |
| 0 | Past promiscuity stances from RP are misleadingI think it's just "Everyone should have a serial monogamy for 10 years before settling down." No one blames you for a serial monogamy, period. I couldn't imagine a girl or guy getting blamed for that. And we all know there's months long, years long sweethearts, and weekend flings in that. It's totes fine, ya? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:33 AM |
| 3 | Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t?No, this just isn't true. My girlfriends love that I love their ass, curves, bodies, etc. They love being told their scent is sexy or I cannot keep my hands off their thighs. I've apologized sometimes and said, "I hope I'm not objectifying you" and every time in my life been told (sometimes through a light flush) "NO, I think it's GREAT you like my breasts/ass/legs/neck/waist/lips/etc so much." Women like this just fine, girlfriends, dates, whatever. I guess if it's "first date and this is forma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 02:29 AM |
| 0 | The narratives pushed in this sub are not representative of the average dating experienceDo you think you're "average," even though n=1 for each of our cases? You probably don't even understand stats enough to have a sensible opinion on this. Example: If we list a dozen traits, you have 1-(.9812) =.21% chances of one of them or more being 2 standard deviations outside the mean (single tailed). When you consider all the dozens or more of traits that make a person, most could list several odd qualifiers, just as I did. But I guess you're telling me you want this to be your me, myself,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Alcohol is a means of coping with anxiety/poor social skillsSCA, LARP Events, D&D (or White Wolf) Meetups, Church Alcohol still though, except the last one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Resilience is probably the most important personality trait you can have as a man datingIt's probably the most important skill you can have as anyone living on planet Earth, just in general, doing nearly anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:57 PM |
| – | Attraction cannot be quantified. Discuss.I mean, for both genders is it just "tall and healthy?" Tall more important for men and healthy BMI more important for women? Basically the Skaarsgard Boys vs Jon Voight's Daughter being the standards for men and women, respectively? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:53 PM |
| 2 | The narratives pushed in this sub are not representative of the average dating experiencePlease, what is a glow up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:46 PM |
| 4 | The narratives pushed in this sub are not representative of the average dating experienceNow this is very sensible. It could be 15%, but that would also matter, have social consequences, and be millions of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:45 PM |
| 2 | The narratives pushed in this sub are not representative of the average dating experienceYeah, but this board also tells me that my experience in life is not what I am actually experiencing (AMAB, Kinda femme/masc/trans, introverted engineer consultant, but smart, kind, tall, bald, generous in bed, and seldom alone for any time at all since late 20s -- women sometimes pick me up, etc). I just don't see it. But that's just my lived life experience, which everyone here seems to want to negate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:44 PM |
| 6 | The narratives pushed in this sub are not representative of the average dating experienceI'm pretty sure this is correct. My own lived experience tells me this and the people I know around me. Many friends, average looking, with enjoyable, from pretty up to hot women. In other words, yeah..... this board purports to have the secret US counter-indoctrination scrolls with the real facts no one wants to hear, but it's more like a highly skewered view people tend to have here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:40 PM |
| 2 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?Is this correct? Where are you getting the information? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:17 AM |
| 2 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?which is pretty much all of them. I think this is correct. My Red-Leaning friends sometimes say this. Basically women are socially more progressive than men (I think this would hold across societies and time-periods on average, as well). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:15 AM |
| 0 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?My sister. Hit 33 and had a kid, health and looks fading. Lonely. Married a 31 year old with alcohol issues who believes the Earth is flat. They now have two more kids and live in the backwoods of backwoods. This kind of thing would be "desperate woman." And frankly, I'd rather someone shell out for transactional hooker sex, even if it put them into debt, than deal with such a life-altering cost as that. I wish she had just hired hot male escorts or something, for example. Every weekend, still w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:12 AM |
| 0 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?30% vs 15%. Percent Delta is half. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:10 AM |
| 2 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?Interesting point. Would it replicate now? In Sociology this is always a big question mark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:09 AM |
| 5 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?That's reading a lot into what you are replying to. If you could go out and talk to women and "maintain frame" this well (about a completely different frame, though), you'd be swimming in laid in no time! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?The answer to whether this is "right" is something other than 1 or 0. Reality is seldom a binary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:04 AM |
| -1 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?My lived experience (n=1, (like all of us)), I'm dual masters (Stem and non-Stem), well-read, undergrad in sociology, thin, tall, femme/masc/semi-trans (took low dose estrogen for about 15 years, sometimes a little curvy thin, but I work out and am off for the past year, so not currently so androgynous, but it never seemed to hurt me), nice job, etc. I can hang with Northeastern PhDs or West Coast Libs, no stress, and chill. Literally sometimes beautiful women throw themselves at me. And I get d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 12:56 AM |
| 2 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?My experience is in Japan you have a lot of 35+ year old pretty female cels (in or vol, at some point it is academic) with great jobs who sit down to Hagan Dasz and their pet cat every day forever. Is this also happening in the USA? I can see some evidence it might be. As a healthy, fun, 40+ guy, the level of admiration, flirting, and come-ons I get daily from clearly middle-class and above women is .... sometimes surprising. And I was basically a "passport bro" in late 20s to early 30s, before … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:25 PM |
| 2 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?So a lot of immigrant men kinda get left behind by their own women, while not being able to attract women of other cultures and races. Are you saying in the US and West, most of them are non-whites? Does anyone have stats on the skew on this? What you are saying may have merit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:21 PM |
| 5 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?Whose grandfather got this? This seems like a hypothetical legendary imagined thing. Like the "wonderful 1950s" during which in reality there were 3 recessions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:20 PM |
| 2 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?Are those guys actually in the educated liberal camp? Like for real? Could they hang out with a bunch of educated Northeasterners with PhDs who wouldn't vote for Gun rights if you put a gun against their head for a weekend and not stick out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:18 PM |
| 4 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?I take it as read that someone ranting on reddit probably isn't capable of doing much in almost every case. But the edge cases are, as the parent comment to yours said, a great case for concealed carry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:15 PM |
| 6 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?It seems like in countries with less female autonomy, dads and families are controlling women and society is keeping women strongly separated from men (my experience is multiple visits to South India). THAT doesn't help guys get laid. I grew up in the roaring 90s and we were all having sex at 15-17 onwards. What happened between then and now? It doesn't seem like there was less agency and autonomy among women at that time compared to now, no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:14 PM |
| 6 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?I would think that whatever situations desperate women are getting themselves into can have a cost too. In my experience, problems you can solve with money are about the easiest and cheapest problems in all of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:11 PM |
| 2 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?Internet seems to be "something." I'm not sure what. People socialize less, so maybe without a social setting to show off one's social strengths, men are at a disadvantage compared to women who could just post a couple of pictures of boobs and get suiters? I mean, crudely put, does this boil down the internet problem for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:10 PM |
| 10 | Is much of the incel problem due to highly Trad/Conservative men?Anything other than your instincts to show this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 10:09 PM |
| 1 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.Men are the ones who ridicule and humiliate men who date women who are single moms. Really? Just in this forum or somewhere else? I lived abroad for several years and have only been stateside for 5 years and am in a liberal educated upper middle class bubble. Is this a thing? MEN are the ones who insult and put down women who are over 30, chubby, or unattractive. Women can be pretty nasty and judgmental to each other. Men are the ones who are ashamed to be with a woman who looks a certain way. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:12 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.I think some also just find foreigners hot. I dated one for several years, was married for awhile to her, etc. She said that the English teachers growing up were just hot to her. Men in her culture don't grow beards, and she was almost obsessed with mine, couldn't stand if I shaved, etc. I mean, she was just a case of foreign guys being hot. From my friends who also ended up with those women, I think this accounts for several of them. The "Too dark" for local culture also plays in sometimes. Als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:09 PM |
| 1 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.Yes. I should have said that. It's a key point in the whole game. Like "Who checks out more women, men or women?" It's women, for sure. And with a way more critical eye than most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.Okay, these are fair points. Probably there is a memetic element to what men want as well and I hadn't thought of this when I made the OP. I think the wide use of porn drives trends too, somehow. I'm 44, and when I was 5-15, I formed my own opinions on what I thought was beautiful, and they have stayed with me. I guess there was TV, but I still had my own tastes. (And some of it was influenced by neighborhood girls, TBH. The Finnish immigrant girl my age with the bicycle shorts while we rode aro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:04 PM |
| 1 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.I don't think it's worthy of criticism, but i think a lot of guys could care nil. I did spend several years with a super introverted woman who wouldn't hang out with my friends and had few of her own. But she was sweet, funny, great in bed, liked me, supportive, and enjoyed her life. When my friends did meet her, they thought "Wow, I see why you like her" but she mostly didn't like spending time with others. I think more men just weight that at zero or very low importance than women would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 04:01 PM |
| 1 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.For women, it's like they are trying hard to win at being normal YES! I feel this since moving back to the USA, especially. My current girlfriend is really into a kind of normacie, like I make her look good and I talk well and my job sounds good at parties, social media, and among her friends and family. Meanwhile, I haven't mentioned my girlfriend's job, or etc to really anyone. The only person who noticed was one of my business partners, but he's sensitive to "the kind of woman any man would b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 03:59 PM |
| – | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?I'm no Chad, but 6'1", 175, work out and thin. My strength isn't very high (overhead 70 lbs, pull 135, row 135, fly 140, no press) but cardio is good. Bald and shaved head. IQ 138. Go through low-dose estrogen "femme/masc/queer" periods, obvious slight curves and some women like the bisexual thing with me being "Hey Cowgirl, get you're ass over here." Not doing that lately, though, just normie smart engineer guy. Mostly vegeaquarian, but sometimes the body craves a bit of meat and I go with it. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 03:55 PM |
| – | What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say?Normal Serial Monogamy case here and I don't understand "shortchanged." Yeah, sometimes I was alone for a few months (once for over a year) in my 20s. Post 30, my dry spells in dating dropped to nearly 0 months every time, and in early 30s, I spun plates for awhile. Also, the relative scale of beauty and social power of my girlfriends went up from late 20s and into 30s. Now I am post 40, divorced, no kids, and almost every woman my age looks at me obviously admiringly and with attraction, it's e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 03:48 PM |
| 1 | What age is it weird for a guy for never have any dating/sexual experience at all?Why the hell would you tell them? It's weird because the whole thing is ultimately all in someone's head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:29 PM |
| 6 | What age is it weird for a guy for never have any dating/sexual experience at all?No one knows this if you don't tell them, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:27 PM |
| 7 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.I think for women, even their non-mainstream society/subculture will have a determining effect on her potential mates. I don't think the slightly unattractive hipster girl is going anywhere near any guy who smells the slightest bit MAGA, no matter what. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:23 PM |
| 1 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.In the US, this bar is low these days. Due to the obesity pandemic, it seems like just being not-fat / healthy gets a lot of foots in the door. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:21 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.What I noticed when I started dating American women again after a long Hiatus in Taiwan was that the brags to the female friends are almost like reading the highlights off my resume that are relevant to the Tribe we're currently hanging out with. That's when it clicked, "Oh, I'm a status symbol" But not the same way a girl could be a status symbol to a guy, which boils down to the other guys thinking she's way hot, smart, and cool (Somewhat Hottie Hipster Girl with a Synth collection who has eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:18 PM |
| 2 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.That's 100% of my point, thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:16 PM |
| 3 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.lots of men are embarrassed to be in a first name basis with a fat or butch woman, for example. Is this true? I have not seen it in any social situation I have been in. A butch lady, like a tomboy, short haircut Dykey James dean? I think in the male circles I have been part of, if that's your thing, and you're happy together, I don't see any guys judging you about it. Leftist/Liberal Educated tribe, though, so maybe my viewsed are skewsed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:16 PM |
| 5 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.I'm pretty sure the social group pressure to date a woman who signals group membership and doesn't provide a huge hit to group status is not nearly as serious with men as with women. Guys aren't policing and judging each other about the women they date, marry, etc, nearly as much as women. About the only person who might do this to a man is a conservative family member. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:13 PM |
| 1 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.Women like men with social proof. AS social proof. That's a very different point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:12 PM |
| 0 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.Spoken like someone who hasn't been in many relationships. I mean, for normal, average guys in serial monogamies, a long period of not being in a relationship has obvious benefits. It takes a really special somebody to even be worth leaving that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:11 PM |
| 10 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.I think you're missing the point entirely. You might walk in and think that, or not. To her, the cohort is her peers, and she's competing with them and they are judgmental as fuck (have you been around groups of women, much?)..... maybe there's a guy she would really fall for, but if it doesn't fit socially, she's going to put up with hell. I knew a guy like this. He was dating a woman who was an olympic swimmer (long distance, US team), and he was several years her senior. I was around them and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:09 PM |
| 11 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.I have seen some men do it, but it's the edge case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:06 PM |
| 20 | A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works.Also, women are extremely influenced by groupthink and trends I think this is true. a trophy husban This part I think is fundamentally different between men and women. For men, it's the equivalent of a Porsche, which the vast majority of men will at least concede is "pretty badass." For women, it's more subtle signaling of success and affiliation to her tribe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 10:06 PM |
| 2 | It is cruel, immoral, and hypocritical to call RP guys "losers, idiots etc"Blanket misogyny comes off as low IQ. If not that, then someone who "just doesn't get it" or "isn't quite with it," which translates to either "unstable" "low-IQ" or "Asshole BMW bro I wouldn't want to so much as sit down a drink a beer with, and everyone will laugh when his half-crappy law practice collapses because he cannot milk more referrals." Now, reading between all those lines, yeah, you're talking about guys who are probably really damaged. A question is, how can any of us actually help… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 08:00 PM |
| 2 | Q4A, on preselection by men: Where exactly can a 25+yo man find a 25+yo woman who is both of a good character AND single?25?! This isn't even slightly old. Grad School, Church, Social groups like the SCA, LARP groups, Yoga, Clubs, or just a freakin' Bookstore. Most of the above also work at 30 or 40, too. Or, reading between the lines, are you specifically looking for conservative leaning women? Then your place is church and sorry but you're going to be in a large group fighting for a small group of women. IF you'd ever like to switch sides over to the Libleft team, I assure you that the waters are warm here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 07:49 PM |
| 1 | You'll Find Love When You Stop Looking: Fact Or Fiction?Causality here might be sketchy due to confounders. For example, maybe the person who has "stopped looking" did so because their life became super-interesting, they got a great job, started a degree program they were totally psyched about, etc. And coincidentally, being all happy and in love with their life (and potentially around a new circle of people), they met somebody, were in good state, and they hit it off nicely. "Stopping looking" didn't cause them to find someone, but something else ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/23 02:03 AM |
| -2 | The only reason women have such an extreme upper hand in dating is for one simple reason - men are way hornierWomen do not have as much of an upper hand in liberal/leftist tribe areas. See: https://putanumonit.com/2020/01/26/skewed-and-the-screwed/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/23 05:25 PM |
| 0 | Why should women today deal with the averаge man?Also, check out when people on this sub start throwing around citations sloppier than a 2nd year Humanities student, along with weasel language meant to sound academic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/23 07:20 PM |
| – | what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially?"everyone?" "always?" I don't know if someone with such rigid frames would feel comfortable there, but have you ever gone to a Unitarian Universalist congregation? There you will find one of the most comfortable, nonjudgmental, kind places to socialize and meet people (yes, humans, some of whom will be female!!!!!11). Or if you're trad, go to a regular church. You can also talk to women in bookstores if you're just cool. But back to the abnormalcy. UU churches are like the valley of misfit toys,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 08:30 PM |
| – | The unavoidable corruption of dating apps. I worked in the dating industry for a dozen years and it is an probably the most intrinsically fake legal industry in existence. The entire thing is built on misconceptions, half-truths, and flat out lies, mostly about men and their chances of success.pick-up artist tactics - lying and misleading women This isn't PUA. PUA is just about reproducible methods of being a cool, attractive guy. At least that's what it was in the 2000s when I was part of it. Mystery's five triggers of attraction: Successful risk taker Leader of Men Emotional Circuits firing correctly Preselection by other women Something else I cannot remember. You demonstrate these (best to show don't tell, but tell subtly if you must tell), and people are attracted. There's nothin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/23 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Dating begins after 25Yet I read studies that the population of Incels is very high, people are not getting together and having sex in record numbers. Is this inaccurate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Dating begins after 25I read stuff like this and feel so sad for modern fellas. I grew up in the 1990s and 2000s, and I had my first date at age 13, LOL. I started dating where we were making out and feeling each other up (to the point of orgasms) by 16, and etc. And I was in a conservative Christian milieu at that time. Thing is, most of the people I knew were about the same. Even "Late Bloomers" -- like short guys and such at least had a girlfriend or two by 18 or 19. Sometimes the really unattractive guys would kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 05:06 PM |
| 5 | Dating begins after 25"Everything prior to age 40 is research" -- Carl Jung | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 05:01 PM |
| 2 | What was the original RP?That's a subreddit, not the etymology of the Red Pill. The key question would be if that subreddit is the first occurrence of the concept of "The Red Pill" in that way. The reason I brought up RSD is I think they mentioned the phrase in a PUA context as far back as pre-2010. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 03:32 PM |
| – | Do you think status has a big affect on attraction?Either way they are all top of their craft. That could also be a marker for intellect, drive, communication skills, and other strong indicators of character and health. You rarely get to be at the high end of any field without those factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Irl dating online dating, in your experience which one is more optimal and why?IRL is better for almost anything. When I'm doing business development, I'd rather be at a trade show talking to people directly -- there's body language, charm, ability to (accurately) project trustworthiness. It's harder to just "forget" about me or make the default non-decisions when we meet in person. Meanwhile, online is all SEO, eyeballs, dwell time and numbers, numbers, numbers, numbers. You get .3% response and click through and another 5-15% of that is buys. It's cold, senseless, chuggi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 02:10 PM |
| 2 | What was the original RP?Didn't it grow out of RSD's PUA methods, basically? (OG PUA 2005-2007, back when it was like building a fun gay scene for straight people) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 02:02 PM |
| 43 | A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stabilityI mean, "A lot of people, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stability" is simply a correct sentence. If people debate you much about this, they're just wanting to argue. But your point number 2 isn't a stage of denial, it's also true. Were you ever 25? XY Chromosomes here and I broke up with my stable LTR around that age to move across the world for more adventure. I think that's healthy, sane, normal behavior in your 20s if you can afford it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 01:59 PM |
| – | Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing?Correct. In 2007 PUA culture, between ATL lair and Michigan Detroit Lair (which felt colder than ATL to me), I heard no such anything like this! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 03:39 AM |
| – | Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing?I was in PUA culture back in the golden age (2007, ATL lair). The guys back then were mostly decent and attractive guys who had maybe missed out on the past several years (as of that time) of social changes. Most were surprisingly good-looking, several were quite wealthy, most were middle class. When you got down to it, very few were Jackals or anything, they were just lonely or had more 'dry spells' than they wanted. We watched each others and different outside presenter's talks about dressing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Where does this hostility towards men today really come from?Sir (or Madam, but I think "Sir" from your argument), the argument you're looking for here is "Base Rate Fallacy." People are not wired to grok it, but it's the root of most racism, sexism, etc. It won't solve what you're upset about, but you'll at least understand the situation better if you read up on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 02:53 AM |
| 12 | Are today's men dropping below even a reasonable woman's attraction floor?Culture-war-informed woke-amplification checkmate. Nice play! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 06:59 PM |
| 2 | What happens to women and go their own way?People do insane things, including slipping drugs to each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/21 01:22 AM |
| 2 | What happens to women and go their own way?Her excuse was that her lesbian lover had put meth in her food. If indeed someone put meth in her food, this is a valid reason for a psychotic break. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/21 12:30 AM |
| 1 | What percentage of men you've slept with are great in bed?You may be able to tie a cherry stem in a knot with your tongue, but can you spot someone whose mind is already made up AF? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 02:11 AM |
| 1 | The only men getting consistent action are men with no/ loose standardsNot the only men, but the men I have known who had the highest non-prostitute "N-counts" also had the highest prostitute N-counts almost always a little higher than the non-prostitute counts. There's a lot to the vibe that you aren't gonna make more out of this or get all soppy and starry eyed or clingy or whatever. You wanna fuck, girl wants to fuck, it really can be easy, but it needs to be fucking easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 01:29 AM |
| 2 | What good is a woman withholding sex as a strategy if she's not withholding until marriage?infps We know what's up INFP is typically very good at subtly modeling other humans in their mind. Makes for good writers and therapists. Or.... on this forum, a Cassandra saying truths no one else really cares to see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 02:40 AM |
| 2 | What good is a woman withholding sex as a strategy if she's not withholding until marriage?If that is literally true about this specific girl, maybe you need to date someone else. If you're applying your beloved sociological approximations to individuals, then.... well, may God have mercy on your soul. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 02:36 AM |
| 3 | What good is a woman withholding sex as a strategy if she's not withholding until marriage?What men object to is the differing/worse treatment they get vis a vis the treatment they gave Chad. Correction, what the men imagine they gave "Chad." Unless you were there with that girl while she was 'giving' 'it' to Chad, it really is just your own assumptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 07:50 PM |
| 5 | What good is a woman withholding sex as a strategy if she's not withholding until marriage?So, as soon as the frame is "Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free" i.e. an exchange of sex for something like commitment, etc, then it is subject to market forces on cost of the exchange. And prostitutes are almost always cheaper in the long run by that calculation, so I don't think it's a good overall framework for women to operate from. Anyway, it also reduces relationships to a form of expensive prostitution, which as someone who likes relationships with women, kind of skeezes me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 07:46 PM |
| 10 | How Come Women Like Feminine Men But Men Don't Like Masculine Women?Who says men don't like Masculine Women? I've been enthralled with tomboy softbutches since I was like 9 years old. One of my perfect types, and I dated several throughout college and early 30s... (though I settled down with basically a manic pixie anime girl)... maybe the extra T makes the masculine ones terrorists in the bedroom though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 01:14 AM |
| 7 | How Come Women Like Feminine Men But Men Don't Like Masculine Women?I dunno, I play my wife in games and such all the time. She whines and wants me to let her win, but i prefer it when she wins fair and square. Isn't the point of a competition that you put everything into it and it's fun to win or lose? Some games she's just better than me at (othello, for example), and some bets she wins hard (she called 2016 election and won an electric guitar from me.... if it had been anyone else, LOL). Still, she's a very sore loser and thinks I should let her win everythin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 01:11 AM |
| 3 | Is Porn a Cause of, or a Symptom of, the Rising Number of Virgin/Sexless Men?It could be that they are unrelated. Porn pre-existed the "rising numbers of sexless men." Source: I had a modem in 1989 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 05:57 PM |
| 1 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?I would suspect that more violence will result if the only response society can imagine is putting more and harder pressure on young men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 02:38 PM |
| 2 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?I saw that when I was hanging out around University of Mannipal. It was a mini sexual revolution with open relationships, people comfortable advertising they have multiple partners and are interested, etc... Middle to upper middle class, all educated. Women not very coy at all nor coming off as assey or straightforward. Just meet someone, hang out, fuck. It was actually socially smoother and more comfortable than if you'd been dropped into "Before Sunrise." As a 6'1" Western male, it was.... eas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 02:34 PM |
| 1 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?It just puts pressure on technological innovators to come out with hot gynoid robots. And whoever gets there best and first is going to make billions. I'm not even remotely incel and I would prefer a robot for live-in and sex as well. Maybe they will lead to a Ursula-Laguine-esque utopia where people are appreciated as friends for their humanity rather than their masculinity or femininity. Meanwhile we all fuck gods and goddesses we have wrought from steel and plastic and code. Or it might all g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 02:25 PM |
| 2 | Are 'Urban Cultures' naturally exposed to the harsh realities of men and women more? Is it now being spread to others causing this 'surprise' ?Never heard it prior to today. No Cable so no MTV, was in college listening to Post Rock and Ambient. At that time I was living through what I thought was a 'normal' experimental middle class Bisexual serial monogamy with occasional dry spells. Haven't listened to Hip Hop since Dre and Snoop, Refugee Camp, and KRS-1. Haven't watched MTV Since REM, Radiohead, and Pulp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Explain to me how an older man manipulates a younger woman (18+)I think it's far more manipulative and power-dynamics abusive to get someone your same age from an uneducated 3rd world place. In my opinion, that stands a great chance of being truly exploitative. Even if that 3rd world place is the bad side of Atlanta instead of the bad side of Chennai. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 12:16 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Explain to me how an older man manipulates a younger woman (18+)All depends on jurisdiction, though. People forget how much of this 'minors' thing is a social construct. A lot is legal in England that ain't in Georgia, and stuff's legal in Japan that ain't in England. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Explain to me how an older man manipulates a younger woman (18+)I think the stupid boy (or stupid young girl) has a lot of chance to do a lot of damage to their peer. . . The argument about older people aside, young, stupid, and confused people are imprinting damage and insecurity on each other than will likely last a long time also. Take me back in time to 17 and give me a kind and patient 36 year old 'showing me the ropes' over my fucked up peer any day! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 12:12 AM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexTrue. It's not even such a big deal. Even Paul in the Bible suggests that if you want to get into this whole marriage and sex thing, you've got a whole world of problems you're asking for. People on this forum seem to just pretend that side of the coin doesn't even exist, or is somehow invalid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:43 AM |
| 3 | If women are hypergamous by nature....This is the confusing part. You move into a social milieu where that's meaningless. However, for loads of people within a 50 mile radius of you, not at all in social circles you'll hang with, it means something. Not saying it's the golden key to wet panties or any hyperoverstatement. Just that it DOES mean something, even though in your peer group and social circles you have access to it might not. Congrats if your peer group puts engineers near the BOTTOM of heirarchies. If so, you run (in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 06:00 PM |
| -1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having Sexlife quality Whoa whoa whoa there Mr. "Simp for Low N-Count Women" You can be living with someone, sleeping with them and fucking them and be lonely as they're on the other side of the world even as your sweaty bodies are falling asleep together. They can be like a 7.8 and it can hurt worse than just being alone. (specificity in this case is because I have lived it). Even aside from that extreme, I have seen so many men who are basically trapped in some LTR or marriage like it's prison, and it a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 04:51 PM |
| 2 | I can only see current trends acceleratingI hope there's a backlash and people start leaving it Wasn't there a mass Gen X Exodus from FB back in 2012 or something? "Facebook Seppakku" would delete all your pics and untag you everywhere and lock you out of your account, LOL. I just bid everyone adieu, deleted account, and changed password to a long random string I then lost forever. Maybe there will be different waves of this. Like the upscale 'dumb' phones and stuff. Not everyone wants a zillion miles of tech up their asses all the fuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:40 PM |
| 6 | I can only see current trends acceleratingI generally agreed with this. However, I think this might be age-skewed and even class skewed or some other things skewed. I mean, I'm bald, soft-jawed, thin, deep AF voiced, 6'1" (which, LBR, is not that tall by todays standards), 42, Masters degree, management experience, and consulting gig work while starting second masters. Not rich, def middle class, but would have to actively work to fall to lower class. I lived a serial monogamy, used PUA to get through a few dry spells before moving to A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:03 PM |
| 1 | How exactly does career/wealth play into SMV?I don't believe there is a case where someone rents a masarati and puts it on profile picture, dresses nice and rents one to pick the girl up and he gets convicted of rape because he lied about social class. (granted, that's like 650 bucks using turo.com, a price he could have gotten a cheaper hooker) So, what specifically are you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 01:09 PM |
| 1 | How do you avoid people like this?Leave the USA for warmer waters, and avoid the very materialistic girls in Europe, East Europe, Asia. If they aren't blinging their cell, expecting you to pay for lots of foodie bullshit and trips, or being all about masaratis and nonsense, then most are okay. Some ex communist area girls are really really wounded about money and are just the dirtiest of transactionalists, and plenty of poor Asian girls are really really wounded about money in similar ways. Some poor Asian girls are REALLY poor … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 01:03 PM |
| 5 | Has this sub changed your views or interests in any way?I have come to understand, at 42 and finishing undergrad in the great days of peakPUA (2005-2007), then moving to Asia for ten years.... I don’t have any idea what the lads these days are living through. Seems like the dating market has just gone nuts and “regular people” meeting each other and hooking up just isn’t happening for most guys. (I met my current LTR by chatting her up on a bus— she was reading catcher in the rye, 2 hour ride from Taichung to Taipei where she was going to see a post … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:50 AM |
| 1 | YOU HAVE TO "PUT WOMEN ON A PEDESTAL"This is true. I have walked over river and gorge with my fuckin 6.5 looking for a boar. They’re smart and they’re cool and they taste good, but no way I am putting them on a pedestal. Thanks for pointing this out, I had never thought of it before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:14 AM |
| 3 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?I don't see any issue unless someone is already primed to read between those lines. The list itself is pretty sensible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Women of purple pill debate, what things do you agree with from the red pill perspective and what things do you not agree with?I agree, the thing people remember will be the bad part. However, in an attention based economy, that may be the only option to spread much of anything. https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 12:39 PM |
| 2 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.This is interesting. Is the area generally impoverished? I find a lot more attractive women, as I said in another reply, in Poland, Taiwan, and India's Middle+ class. (I mean like loads of 6s-7s, basically). Midtown ATL is cool, and north Atlanta (rich areas like John's Creek) not terrible, but still not like swarming with women I want to play with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 12:34 PM |
| 2 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.Well older guys can be huge pervs and generally a younger girl isn't interested. True, this also happens with some guys. I think Sadhguru put it that life's energy leaves people and whatever their worst traits are will surface. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 06:24 PM |
| 5 | Women of purple pill debate, what things do you agree with from the red pill perspective and what things do you not agree with?we don’t spam..”baby” “sis” or “sweetie” at every turn.. I notice that transgendered people sometimes run this program self-consciously until the cringe factor goes to infinity. If I have to hear another TG say "Hon" six times in two paragraphs..... well, I stopped attending Southern Comfort after two times for this type of characture-ish nonsense (in another life when I myself was outwardly MtF). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Women of purple pill debate, what things do you agree with from the red pill perspective and what things do you not agree with?-If you go into things with the mindset that you suck and are lucky to get any attention, shitty people will take advantage; if you walk in with the mindset that you're great and people are lucky to be around you, you'll have a better time PS: This also works at work/interviews, etc... I'd be damned before I ever act 'grateful for a job' for example, unless it was literally just heaven, in which case I would be grateful if a person had connected me to it somehow. But the client still needed the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Women tend to make bad decisions in regards to their safety. They are too lenient with dangerous men and too cautious with safe men. They have standards which actually rewards pushy guys and pushes away respectful ones.America really sucks in this regard as well as many others. The crime rate is high, gun ownership is high, murders are high, entitlement is high (as much as men bitch about women, it seems there are a lot of frustrated and entitled men out there). It's a fucking powder keg. The money is here to be made, but I bide my time until leaving again. I hadn't considered it until now, but 'warmer' dating cultures might directly correlate with absence of violent crime. Taiwan is notably a place where it i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 05:34 PM |
| 4 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.India is huge and I have only hung around the South. Mannipal university area in 2016 had a lot of grad students who seemed to be having a mini sexual revolution, girls and guys alike were very innocent and open about short term and multiple partners for enjoyment, socializing, and casual sex (which is pretty taboo in that area!). Temple-hopping and traveling middle class North Indians hanging around the South were friendly and easy-going. If family isn't around (i.e. you meet at a hostel in Kod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 04:46 PM |
| 2 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.You may be interesting, educated, enchanting, and/or pretty. It is hard to say from this comment. I mean, there is this 53 year old lady who runs a Karaoke bar in the town where I spent 10 years living in Taiwan. She is more than 10 years my senior, but you know what? She hasn't got. one. drop. of. shame. And being around her is just WONDERFUL. Every guy who goes into that bar finds her attractive. I liked singing REM's "Losing my religion" just because she would dance and shake her tambourine e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 04:10 PM |
| 6 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.When I am in Taiwan or parts of Europe or some of Asia, I see Waaaaaaaaaay more hot women, take more effort to meet them, etc. The middle class and up women I meet in India are also typically much hotter. Just hanging around Atlanta, most of the time I'm like "Meh" outside of midtown. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 04:00 PM |
| 1 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.As I said to someone else: Yes, declining from "Waaaay in excess, driving me half crazy" to "Yeah, it's there, but I wouldn't be willing gun down strangers over it anymore." And yeah, totally normal. Probably not worth jacking testosterone back to the point of being near violence at times due to 'the hunger.' Not an epiphany, nor presented as such. That you read it that way says more about you than my own thinking (as is always the case). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:53 PM |
| 2 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.I don't understand why more 35+ women don't turn cougar and just pin down and manipulate 16-20 year old guys. Would likely be easy, and many would probably be just about willing to work in a salt mine if there was sex involved, especially if it was accompanied by some kindness. I would have at that age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:47 PM |
| 1 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.I would think there are always notable exceptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:43 PM |
| 3 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.That's all approximately what I'm saying. Basically it's going to vary by tastes from man to man, but ultimately the urgency of the need is noticebly less and the awareness of the cost is more. William Burroughs said "Beware of whores who say they don't want money. What they mean is they want more money. Lots more." As I said in OP, for the majority of girls out there, the juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze and all I might be open to would be a zero-effort (cash or not) transaction and just be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:41 PM |
| 1 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.I have a highish sex drive and a very high natural t level but outside of when I was a young 19 year old virgin I've never been a "two tits a heart beat and a hole" kinda guy either. I was never satisfied with that, although when I was younger I think I should have been. Back then I was trying to get validated as much as scratch an itch, which I feel is conflating two different drives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:37 PM |
| 2 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.Hell yes I still want to bang women. The default for say, an average college girl or younger is "Would bang if zero effort." The default for average girl over 30ish is "Maybe slightly repulsed to go down on, maybe eeeeeever so slightly repulsed to fuck." Of course, the pretty ones I feel totally different about, and would enjoy having sex with them! Now, you get the more attractive ones (personality wise as well as physically) of either category, and my enjoyment would go up, willingness to put … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:35 PM |
| 5 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.It's interesting because the drive is still there. I mean, at 42 I still like it, LOL. Maybe at 62 I won't even care anymore, who knows? But as you say, small amount of time having sex, large amount of time jumping through obstacles. Couldn't I just work on a business project or learn something new or take a trip or something? Is sex with girl X going to be more rewarding than those things somehow? LOL, maybe.... maybe. But it's going to take some convincing me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:31 PM |
| 3 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.Yes, declining from "Waaaay in excess, driving me half crazy" to "Yeah, it's there, but I wouldn't be willing gun down strangers over it anymore." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:28 PM |
| 2 | "The default is that a woman is attractive and a guy wants to bang her" probably only applies to men up to mid thirties or so.I am not saying the women aren't attractive. This applies as much to the 28 year olds as the 38 year olds I'm looking at. I am saying most of them are not worth the time unless I have chemicals whispering in my ear that pussy is pure diamonds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:27 PM |
| 3 | What drives people who are willing to be paid for, or pay for, sex?I dated a former stripper/prostitute for awhile. She said it was a hell of an ego boost to get paid for sex, and that was more addicting than the money. Just one anecdata point to confirm your bias/like or disconfirm your bias/dislike. Also, my current LTR has recently asked me several times why I never hired a prostitute myself, being pretty innocently convinced if she was a guy she would like to occasionally fuck prostitutes (as well as lots of hot gays, LOL). For that anecdata point you might… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 12:56 PM |
| 1 | What it’s like dating at 27- how accurate is this tik tok/ the comments that follow it?So you think you are in a real relationship. It is possible, in good faith, that they do not yet know either, and are not trying to waste your time (or theirs, none of us have forever). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Straight men will not spend a significant amount of time/are not close friends with a straight woman in whom they are not sexually or romantically interested.Sometimes it happens that you are close colleagues. Especially at mid-level work where you get less choice as to which colleagues are "close." It's not like you're picking who to write journal articles with when you're both anywhere from clerks to middle management. It's mostly a roll of the dice who you have to work with every day at that point. I have worked with people of my "sexual attraction genders" and become very friendly (drinks after work, etc) and not been at all attracted, all due to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 12:22 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?Have you tried meeting people in notably ‘warmer’ approach/dating nations? It can be very healing. You might consider a sojourn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Assuming you are an attractive guy, what are places to look for long lasting relationships?I speak from experience as opposed to rumor or speculation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 03:49 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?E) Leave the US for warmer waters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 02:21 AM |
| 6 | Assuming you are an attractive guy, what are places to look for long lasting relationships?Meetups related to other things you have mutual interest in, like a kayaking group, cycling club, or spiritual/yoga group. Also Colleges, Churches, Taiwan, Germany, and Poland. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 10:38 PM |
| 4 | Having sex is a mutual benefit for the man and the woman, not just for the man.Overrated generally. I had one GF who was exclusively vaginally orgasmic. Would not recommend a vaginally orgasmic woman, at least not one that is exclusively that. And even having it as an option doesn't seem any better than a clit. Clits are just so convenient and easy to access compared to the hole itself. Even for sex you can get up and grind your pubic bone on hers like a couple of tribbing ladies and often get her off while you're inside (or you can switch and she can use your pubic bone o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 11:31 PM |
| 2 | Having sex is a mutual benefit for the man and the woman, not just for the man.Unless the man is generous and proactive about making sure his partner is also having an orgasm, yeah, seems to sound like it’s more for his benefit. I haven't been a woman fucking lots of men, so I am asking an honest Q here out of blind ignorance: Is that actually a thing? Am I living in an idealized bubble where during undergrad and 30s middle-class serial monogamy-thons it was assumed that everyone was going to be eating pussy as much as (even potentially more time than) riding? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Having sex is a mutual benefit for the man and the woman, not just for the man.I’ll never understand how you can pay for sex. 1). You are paying for sex rather than validation. 2). It's a lot cheaper in most cases than what you end up paying anyway. (see Chris Rock on 'women basically get half') | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 11:20 PM |
| 3 | Why are men in denial that feminine men do well with women?Typically niche markets are where the easiest money is at, though. The non-niche is a big bloody sea full of sharks. I mean, I'm not trying to pick up every woman. And there's plenty in my bi-femme-guy loving niche, and usually it just clicks. That was true when I was 22 and still now at 42. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:47 PM |
| 3 | Why are men in denial that feminine men do well with women?I have said this many times, bi-guys are the real alphas. Some femininity usually comes along with this. See, I have gone into the whole thing knowing, since my early 20s and the first time I had a boyfriend, exactly what the value proposition is from a man. I mostly favor women, but I have had several wonderful experiences with men over the years. I know the powerful feeling when men have their energy directed at me, it's like a slow-burning sunshine coming off of them. So, I use that same vibe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:42 PM |
| 2 | For those who have been able to get sex before RP, how did you learn?Well enough. No gender markers on your message that I could see. Guys do basically talk how you did sometimes, which is always completely bothersome to me. The idea of "getting pussy" like.... what does this entail? A sex change? Anyway, I also answered your Q as to how it worked out. I basically was a nerd hanging out with nerds, and learned some PUA to make it more repeatable by finding out what was working and what wasn't. Then I moved to Asia and all that was seriously overkill. However, to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 08:31 PM |
| -1 | Opt-in vs Opt-out Subscription == Dating vs MarriageI think if in your case it did not, that would actually be a minority opinion. At the very least, marriage changing things is not rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Opt-in vs Opt-out Subscription == Dating vs MarriageThen it's one of those things similar to guys whose "strategy" is explicit permission for escalation. It's rare, but I have seen it work very well for those guys who do it. But I mean, if it's outside your experience, it can't be real, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 06:43 PM |
| -2 | Opt-in vs Opt-out Subscription == Dating vs Marriageif the only reason you got married is to game the system. That pressure you feel is the weight of a commitment you just aren't built for and should of never placed upon yourself. I like your ability to reframe things with some intensity serving your intent. Serious question, have you considered writing? However, it isn't as if I invented the expression "Marriage is the cure for love." People generally accept and know some form of that phrase as true. Much of what I am saying transcends our case,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 06:40 PM |
| 3 | Opt-in vs Opt-out Subscription == Dating vs MarriageSure from an American society POV our relationship was taken more seriously than when we were just cohabitating. It seems to impact everything from the entire (Christian) family's interactions with us, to coworkers, friends, etc. I guess the social context seems to change completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Opt-in vs Opt-out Subscription == Dating vs MarriageI mean, even if you prove that is the case in the tens of thousands of years of human history, technology and our ways of living are changing and will continue to change extremely rapidly. It is questionable if/how that applies now or will apply in a near-future world where we all end up interacting through VR worlds, taking pleasures in bizarre AI-generated beasts tailored to each individual person's shadows and secrets, for example -- or what happens when we all go to space, or have UBI and ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 05:33 PM |
| -5 | Opt-in vs Opt-out Subscription == Dating vs MarriageMaybe most people get married, so they never get the chance? Deeper in the story: When we started LTRing, it wasn't initially exclusive, I was in Taiwan (6'1", White, bi, thin, extremely nice voice is my most conventionally attractive asset) and was choosing best out of a very large pool (Man also willingly "choosing" rather than settling makes a big difference, perhaps?)... Also, I was 31 by then, so my choice was a lot more sensible for "long term" than any of my choices/attempts during my 20s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 05:25 PM |
| -6 | Opt-in vs Opt-out Subscription == Dating vs MarriageA huge number of people who wake up married and its less fun would also say something is the fault of marriage. "Marriage is the cure for love" is an idea pre-dating me and my girlfriend quite a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 05:23 PM |
| 2 | Opt-in vs Opt-out Subscription == Dating vs MarriageI know why marriage existed as a difficult opt-out system (ostensibly: kids). However, I still don't think anyone experiencing it will enjoy it as much as an opt-in system, and not just because it "keeps one on one's toes." Lost optionality is another easy capitalist play on something everyone universally dislikes and shows up in almost all advertising. As the saying goes in sales, "If there is no deadline (thus promised loss of options), there is no offer." Given that marriages end up being dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 05:21 PM |
| 1 | For those who have been able to get sex before RP, how did you learn?Your questions are framed horribly and revealing part of the problem. In 2006-2010 PUA culture, ATL lair, it was often a joke that you would "get" sex or they "give up" sexy time or whatever. Bi guys, like myself, always have an easier time partly because we appreciate what fun and power a man brings to the table. I am guessing you only like girls, and you don't know what that's like. But trust me, you are putting more into the equation that is more valuable than you seem to realize. Basically a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/21 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Women have more freedom than they’ve ever had in history, but they still choose to sell their bodies for incomeI disagree with the frame of "sell your body." There's nothing in particular about that transaction other than whatever society makes it and making sure your health is taken care of. What is the big deal about it being sex? What is the big deal about paper being involved? You have to accept that a lot of social frames have some sort of absolute saliency to worry much about it, but then it should matter to camels or dogs or horses as well. This whole question is like someone telling a story then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Us Males love "bad girls" toocenturies of indoctrination. THAT is overstating the case for sure. Sex per se as a separate category from everything else is a relatively new concept (see Foucault's history of pleasure for a pretty good sense of this).... Additionally, romance is mostly a new concept in the past hundred-ish years -- marriage being more like a business contract to produce babies and run a farm (and in some cultures arranged with few choices or no choices at all made by either participant)... By "centuries of in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 05:05 AM |
| 3 | Socio-Economic Class Mega Threadfuck you rich (200k a year and or a million dollar house). Totally aside: That's aspirational fuck you rich when you're 35 or 42, but not at all when you're 62. Medical costs will eat that up faster than most people realize. Insuring that life against contingencies late 50s and beyond costs about 5-8 million in the bank, no less, preferably more. (that's 50% of 200k saved for 50-80 years, in other words, you didn't come close, so don't quibble my numbers unless you can change it by orders of mag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Socio-Economic Class Mega ThreadYup. Uncles and great uncles pictures hanging in the old courthouse on my dad's side of family. When we go to the reunions, my well-travelled and broader educated banter rolls bigger than the real-estate guys pulling more money, especially because the big men (and one big woman) in the family are all in law. And I'm not even in the "Rich" group like Woodruffs or something. Not even close. We're just well-cultured multi-generational Southern upper-ish middle class. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 04:08 AM |
| 11 | Socio-Economic Class Mega ThreadEducated skews liberal, be it male or female. The demos you are looking for just don't match up. STEM mitigates a bit of that (outside of Bay Area), and startup culture is a whole other world.... but even so, educated generally means liberal, more educated generally means more liberal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 04:04 AM |
| 3 | Why are men shamed by other men for being virginsAlmost everything that defines the social world of high school is stuff that one looks back on for the rest of their lives as trifling meaningless insecure nonsense that they would never take seriously in any other context. Most all of it is shame-based because people there tend to be so full of shame and fear. It's just that in high school you don't have another context yet and it seems like it's just how people are. Most people (Thank God) grow out of the worst bits of what you're talking abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/21 03:58 AM |
| 4 | Would you be ok with a marriage where you both lived in different houses? Why or why not?I think that is almost an optimal situation for long term for most people. Even owning two apartments across the hallway from each other would be excellent, I think. The opposite is COVID, locked together in quarantine, and many relationships have suffered from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/21 04:07 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: Would you date a woman who is taller than you?Have done, would gladly do again. (I am 6'1", she was about 6'2" or so, beating me by maybe 3/4". I once tried to date a woman who was about 6'4", but she did not seem interested. I would enjoy, though.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/21 04:06 PM |
| 4 | People in relationships: under what *external* circumstances would you leave your partner?I once did number 3. We had lived together for a year and she had JUST started a yoga business in Atlanta and I got a job offer thousands of miles away that I really wanted. It wasn't going to work and we both knew it. She requested I not try to reach out or be friends in the future. I said I understood, we kissed goodbye and that was it. Never saw her again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/21 01:26 PM |
| 1 | There is no correct way of approaching women without potentially coming off as "CREEPY"I guess if you're stuck in a high school or shitting where you eat (work) or some other rather limited environment, this could happen. In a city anywhere, it's hard to imagine this being a factor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadDownside risks are a lot with Western/American women, LTR or marriage. I wouldn't consider living with/LTR/or marriage with one of them, and in professional settings I act utterly "gender oblivious" to avoid trouble. If "called out" by anyone anywhere, I give major liberal creds and deep SJW-friendly projections, with a businessy level of distance and auditability to make the conversation go away. That's just best practice now and every corporation does it. I am not at all interested in how this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 04:32 PM |
| -1 | Weekly Community Chat MegathreadJust try wearing a ring and announcing you're married and be 40+. I don't know why, but I was basically serial monogamy with occasional ONS/weekend fling in my 20s and 30s. NOW, Jesus.... Different world of easy. And this is after moving back to the USA from Asia. Yes, I am 6'1" tall, have a very nice voice, and am thin, attractive, educated, and middle class (somewhat "weak" jawline, though). But the EASE now vs my 20s, when I also had all that, is amazing. Of course, I also have changed. I cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 04:28 PM |
| 1 | RP'rs, what are your thoughts on spinning plates in an LTR as a male?I bet this varies by age. What you're saying seems to skew under about the mid-thirties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 02:10 PM |
| 1 | RP'rs, what are your thoughts on spinning plates in an LTR as a male?Just gradually and jokingly get your girl into the idea of open relationship. If she's not into it and freaks out, you have the benefit of knowing an exit point (which could be more valuable than you realize down the road). If she is indifferent or perhaps positive, let it simmer awhile. Frankly, you must be willing to reciprocate on this, but a lot of women are more open to open than I think most people think. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 02:08 PM |
| -2 | Why do you think about the men who wife up murderous and outright criminal women?You are misinterpreting that situation and conflating a lot of things. That lady sounds very not slut and very submissive to me. Her husband might be thinking about building her a better cult and training her better. Or maybe in the back of his mind he subconsciously has someone he wants help to destroy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 02:03 PM |
| 4 | There is no correct way of approaching women without potentially coming off as "CREEPY"And.... who cares? I mean, a couple of girls thinking you're creepy is a joke, right? Put it in perspective: You hang out with girls for awhile, you'll notice half of them are insulting and destroying their best friend when she gets up from the table to go pee, with the same facial expressions they use when they say a guy is creepy and a shared eyeroll with their other friend. See this enough times, you'll lose the bother of "Oh, she squinched up her pretty face and said I was creepy, then eyero… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 01:59 PM |
| 8 | Us Males love "bad girls" tooThat level of intensity seems to translate well to the bedroom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Some women find serial killers and psychopaths irresistible. And people don't like to talk about that.And he was a psychopath that drove weak minded people to kill for him. This part is also what the state said, but they did not do much job in the way of proving it. As I said, Manson's main sin was being illegible to most people (though he does speak rather consistently, and even plainly if you listen to it, but not in the frames most people are used to). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 01:10 AM |
| 17 | Us Males love "bad girls" tooI'm thinking "crazy girl who is good in the sack." EVERY guy had one of those. Like, "Fuck, this girl is going to ruin my life, but boy is this sex the best ever." Mine was one I lived with for about a year and a half, girl was an alcoholic and a total spaz who was torn up inside and sad and angry... but holy Shiva and Jesus was the sex constant, creative, and aggressive. I still dream of her occasionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 12:58 AM |
| 9 | If there’s any hesitation from your date, he’s/she’s just not that into you and you should eject immediatelyI think you are overrating people's capacity to judge what the other person is thinking (and people's ability to correctly interpret implicit actions overall). It is also possible that not everything they do and say is about you. As an example, I was in a relationship years ago, and a girl brought up my mid teenage years and dating. I didn't want to talk about it. She got hurt like I was being evasive or something, until after several days of asking me I told her I grew up in a very restrictive … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/21 12:54 AM |
| 1 | If the problem with no sex (or not enough sex) isn't solely about sex, people need to make that very clear.You are part right. The only thing you are missing is that to relatively healthy men (and women) the main thing, maybe the only thing that makes a woman (or man) ugly is shame. Those 52 year olds can be quite hot when shameless, as in #wouldbang and #yesimgoingdowntown. Societally, there is pressure to feel shame, and when they take that on, it is what creates ugliness, not the years by themselves. Same for men, like I said. 60s+? I don't know. This is out of my territory. Men or women. I guess … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 09:38 PM |
| 1 | If the problem with no sex (or not enough sex) isn't solely about sex, people need to make that very clear.Also at that point, why don't those dude just go for a full on mystical experience of some kind? Go drink Ayahuasca in the forest for a few days or something. I am not convinced this internal hole of wanting and needing love and validation could ever be filled by anything a human could possibly do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 09:28 PM |
| 1 | If the problem with no sex (or not enough sex) isn't solely about sex, people need to make that very clear.but rather the earning it, the being considered worthy of it. It seems to me that this frame alone ensures the person cannot possibly be satisfied by a human interaction of any sort. What they want at that point is for God to fuck them while they are high on DMT or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 09:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most relationships are initiated/founded on covert contractsYou don't need one then, either. People usually don't write out detailed contracts when just interviewing clients and partners. Although, when I was involved in the Golden Age of PUA (2007), Juggler came to our Atlanta "Lair" and taught a method I found very applicable and used in every dating experience thereafter. It's simply to ASK what top three things someone is looking for in a (LTR, fuck buddy, BF/GF, Dom, Sub, or whatever you are considering them for at the moment). Also useful to make y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Some women find serial killers and psychopaths irresistible. And people don't like to talk about that.Humanity has a long list of paraphilias and fetishes, hybristophilia isn't particularly unique or outrageous comparatively. Also, it is only tautologically even 'considered' a paraphilia or fetish. Frankly, she could just be attracted to him, and our post victorian psychosexual classification habits need to categorize her sexuality. See Foucault, basically prior to the Victorians "sex" was kind of like pissing and pooping and eating, just a human organic function as opposed to a separate study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Some women find serial killers and psychopaths irresistible. And people don't like to talk about that.Which country are you in? What you are saying is absolutely explicitly incorrect by the constitution of the USA, which was where the man was prosecuted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 09:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most relationships are initiated/founded on covert contractsFor the most part this is correct -- the only exception would be when the bargains and contracts are explicit, which is the way to go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 09:10 PM |
| 1 | If men want more opportunities for sex, why don’t they put the same amount of effort into grooming, self care and “glowing up” as most women do?The logical followup question would be, "If the time they would spend on this per week, paid at their normal hourly rate, would easily pay for a prostitute's time and a 'sure thing,' then why would a man bother?" My wife easily spends an hour on this a day, and 7 x hourly would have bought me at least one nice prostitute a week over my entire working life. Even when I was quite young, a decent one every two or three weeks. However, I also just like feeling and looking good, so skincare routines … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 09:02 PM |
| 3 | Some women find serial killers and psychopaths irresistible. And people don't like to talk about that.This is not even in the same class. If you have state power over those you order to do something, then you can actually use people instrumentally. Functionally this is completely different than your "ideas" "causing them" to do whatever they did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 03:59 PM |
| 2 | Some women find serial killers and psychopaths irresistible. And people don't like to talk about that.Neither of these things are a crime. And the prosecution never even has him directly ordering people to kill Sharon Tate, just that his "ideologies" "drove" them to. By their rationale, Salinger is responsible for Mark Chapman shooting Lennon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Some women find serial killers and psychopaths irresistible. And people don't like to talk about that.Charles Manson didn't actually kill anyone, and given a decent defense in the last 30 years would probably have walked. His main sin was that he was illegible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Your opinion regarding male pattern hair loss at a young age...I agree wholeheartedly. Honestly, one of the toughest things in life are that none of us choose our gifts. I am also transgendered and born in a time when that wasn't really dealt with. I asked for help at 7, 8, 12, 14, and was passed from ministers to psychotherapists and given every psychopharm under the sun except any help whatsoever in transitioning. Bottom line, I would have preferred to have been female and was acutely aware since like 3 years old. However, I am also acutely aware that I a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 03:40 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't care about women's careers. But class definitely plays a role when it comes to datingYou are already thinking of relatively wealthy women. Have you ever been to a REALLY poor country or poor place? With few exceptions, among the broad population, past a very very young age there are no such thing as 9s. I cannot put pictures in thread, so google "National Geographic Afghan girl then and now." I also see similar stuff in lower class sectors of the USA. Past a shockingly young age, there aren't attractive women (or men really, but it's a bit different). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 02:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't care about women's careers. But class definitely plays a role when it comes to datingIt has been said, "There are no ugly people in the world, just poor people." The effects of poverty on beauty are a big deal, for men or women. Personally I think even the obsession with weight is just a class marker. In the past, chubby coded as rich. Now fat codes as poor, so it's out. Fashionably underfed codes as "I can afford Carrot juice and avocados, maybe even a Vegan diet and I never buy cheap calories at McDonalds." It ALL comes down to class in most cases, I think. A really SMART play… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 02:49 PM |
| 2 | The rise of neetsAs a late gen xer, I think I got very lucky. My first real job was sales of exercise equipment in 1997-1999. I was 17 to 19 at that time and I averaged 30 bucks an hour (working at an upscale mall mostly on commission). In my 20s, I never took a single job for less than 25 dollars an hour, even abroad. I pretty much always had the attitude that I wouldn't roll out of bed sober on a Tuesday afternoon for less than 25 an hour (on a W2!). It shaped everything I ever got paid and my strong advanceme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 02:43 PM |
| 4 | How many of your relationships abided the Golden Rule?The Tantric who taught me S&M required that masters abide by two rules: A). You never ask the sub to do anything that you yourself wouldn't do. They are allowed to call you out on this in good faith. B). You always make the sub do what it NEEDS to do, not what you want or even what the sub wants. Most masters think it's sub's job to wake them up with a blowjob every morning or something, but that is not actually being a master, that's just working out your own psychological wounds on someone els… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Careerist women are the exception, not the rule, so why are guys here focusing so much on them?Reddit is just a series of echo-chambers confirming biases. As long as it only ever leads to leftist terrorism, that's okay though. Echo-chamber effects are a systemic risk in most any panel of experts. Of course it happens with regular people who aren't trying to avoid it, and whose main reasons for being somewhere amount to either schadenfreude, boredom, or their own personal axes to grind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Female Dating Strategy subreddit doesn't offer any actual strategy to find and keep HMV (High Value Men)Ambitious and successful men I know are generally bored with wives and bothered by how little power, agency, and intention they have. The optimal woman for many of us would either be Claire Underwood from House of Cards or else someone so genuinely happy and different to the mean that she might be described by outsiders as "Actual Manic Pixie." The trouble with the second one is that you need someone who is relatively healthy and unarmored and interested in whatever they are interested in. The t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 02:13 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of Sigma males?Whoa whoa whoa, you want to talk about something outside of binary simplistic classifications that can easily be pseudoscienced to confirm someone's personal wounds and biases? This is totally not the place for that! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 10:55 PM |
| 2 | For those of you who are in LTRs and cohabitating, why haven't you married yet?We went ten years without getting married, then got married. We both really dislike how other treat us socially, normitize our relationship, and the pressures of "commitment." As soon as she gets her passport, both want to dissolve the marriage and go back to cohabitating, LTRing. It's nice when both people know, every year, "I'm just hanging out with this person because I actually want to." Add in a contract, and a lot of the bloom is off the rose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 10:52 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on "pick me" women?It depends. Your message presupposes that no one could say any of this honestly. For a counterexample, go to the SCA events (where by and large, everyone is getting laid, BTW).... You will find women who are sincerely, in good faith, saying everything from ""Women wear 10lbs of makeup but not me I'm natural!" "Women like shopping and make up and I like video games and sports!" to "Lets go back to my place and play D&D and drink craft beer, what do you think?" ALSO, "That stitch on your shirt is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Men don't care about a woman's education, career, or money. The salesman doesn't get to decide what the buyer wants. If you want a good man you should be willing to provide what that man's looking for.You are speaking for yourself. I think education, career, and class mean a lot. Imagine the intense example in the wrong direction, some girl from some exotic place who barely has a high school education, no money, and no career prospects. Which guy would date her? I guess some guys would keep her around for boobs and sex and pretty almond eyes, I guess.... But I don't think that would last. Unless he himself were fairly low class and not much educated. Over time, insipid is really annoying. I m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Why is lesbian prostitution almost non-existent, yet gay prostitution is thriving?Do you know many Lesbians? Lesbians move in together so fast, and tend to get bonded and enmeshed at an alarming rate. Most Lesbians I have known seem to think that whoever this new girl they met is, she is their twin flame I mean their soul mate. This particular set of drives doesn't work well with prostitution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 02:29 AM |
| -1 | How do men want women to behave?I LTR with an East Asian woman who is well-educated but not from an overly Westernized city. She takes pride in being my mother, sister, best friend, and whore. Strip away the armoring and defenses from what people say. These are the classes of relations men want from women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Your opinion regarding male pattern hair loss at a young age...I lost almost all my hair by 24, and it never seemed to influence my dating life one way or another. I am 6'1", thin but not overtly muscular (around 160-175 depending on if I am bicycling all the time or not), a bit feminine due to microdosing estrogen on and off for decades, but no obvious gyno characteristics (gently androgynous, but furry?), bisexual, psychedellic, and upper middle class, educated, and well-travelled. It's never been a factor. I just shave my head. It mattered to ME, but eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 11:21 PM |
| 1 | What's the point in marriage?Correct, however if you have no income for a given year, but a spouse does, their income counts for your maximum. (Normally you cannot make contributions to a Roth IRA beyond the amount you made during a year) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 11:14 PM |
| 5 | What's the point in marriage?Childfree couple for about a decade before getting married for legal reasons to hang out together in the USA for awhile, plan to dissolve the marriage and return to Taiwan eventually (With me a pair of Masters degrees and her a US passport and maybe a Masters degree). DEFINITELY enjoying the tax advantages, such as being able to max Roth IRA contributions (using previous savings) even in years I was in University and did not work, tax advantaging all the easy stock market money from the ongoing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/21 03:08 AM |
| 1 | Why did the standards of beauty change historically when it came to weight in women?A long time ago, chubby meant upper class, now fat more often codes as lower class. (probably not a popular answer, but I think it is accurate -- go drive around a poor, lower middle class, etc area and obesity and fat rates get really high) Along similar lines, even people my parents age think not eating meat is "too poor to eat meat" and they have plenty of money. For people my age, (40s), vegetarianism is also a bit of a class symbol in the USA as it is typically more expensive and time-consu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/20 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Does it bother men that women watch porn?Not even a little. Finding my wife's preference for anime bondage porn gave me a huge hint that she liked being tied up and spanked and such. Basically, it led to me finding a slightly sadistic domme side that loves pushing her juuuuuust past where she's comfortable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/20 02:30 AM |
| 2 | What problems that overwhelmingly affect the opposite gender do you completely sympathize or empathize with?I used to just always say yes to this and leave it at that. But I also found no one ever does it. It's going to depend on your style. First off, do you like Asians in general? Are you cool with languages that are actually hard to learn? (German, by comparison, is basically trivial. I have learned easily two to three times as much German just casually studying a book and listening to radio shows in a few months than I learned in years of living in a non-foreigner, Mandarin only town and working e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/20 01:13 AM |
| 3 | What problems that overwhelmingly affect the opposite gender do you completely sympathize or empathize with?As an average man I would just be there. Literally just there. A healing experience for myself and a lot of expat men I know is moving to parts of Asia or parts of Eastern Europe and suddenly being like a 6-7 woman, getting stopped to have photos taken with you (and maybe even getting asked out, or friendly company afterwards), being constantly told you're attractive, getting approached by women, getting brought in for things like "language exchange" and it turning out to mostly be a subtle way … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 01:49 PM |
| 13 | What problems that overwhelmingly affect the opposite gender do you completely sympathize or empathize with?"Beautiful women die twice." It's sort of heartbreaking to watch the last interview with Betty Page. She won't let you see anything other than one of her hands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 01:40 PM |
| 1 | How important is dating/sex to you? How much do you prioritize it compared to other things in life?1) Books, writing, grad. school, paid gigs 2) Mysticism / Meditation / Spirituality 3) Family (incl. Wife; no kids but a niece that's close) & Very dear friends. The order varies all the time, though, depending on what's on my plate. Lately, due to COVID, everything is prepping, putting supplies in, fixing the tractor and tiller, quartermastering our TP, PPE masks, and the like, etc. Pop (grandfather) always said to get the field done before Good Friday, and I might not do that due to logistics.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:50 AM |
| 2 | Ladies: how would you describe a sexy man?Ahhh, you're a classic average Ren Fair girl, I see. Meet me for mead and mutually satisfying oral sex. Odd drama to follow tomorrow, probably to the merriment of all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:36 AM |
| 1 | Ladies: how would you describe a sexy man?On the surface, your post looks like some major minor-league shit-testing for a recovering Pickmeisha. If that's the case, frankly, good on you, and I upvoted you for it. If not, read on. "Most men don't give a shit about female pleasure. They won't go down on you, they won't care if you cum unless it's to boost their own ego." For the most part, men in the US seem obsessed with pleasuring women..... although, to risk some kind of flack, there seem to be some racial-cultural differences in willi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Ladies: how would you describe a sexy man?See, this I don't get. I have hung out in India several times, particularly on pilgrimage through South India. I find the men there rather beautiful in a lot of cases. Women too. The main separator there was, unfortunately class. The educated people I was hanging out with were often hot, and on University of Mannipal campus I even dated a girl for while (They seemed to be having a miniature sexual revolution there, and a lot of people in the Philosophy department were experimenting and kind of i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:31 AM |
| 0 | What are your height preferences/requirements for a potential boyfriend?Bisexual and XY Chromosomes here. I like 'em taller than me, though within an inch or two shorter is fine. The smell has to be correct on a man for me to want him, and that's the bottom line. Also, I like them sort of younger than me, though when I was actively fucking men sometimes, I was in my 20s, and sometimes took them older. Now I am 40, and find most 40+ year old males in the USA to basically be slobs I'm not attracted to. There are exceptions, though. However, I am married, and it's impo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:20 AM |
| 6 | Most of the bond girls were late 20s - early 30s.Isn't half the theory of this sub that they were going to nut to almost anyone who was sort of young and fertile-looking? Most porn stars are not particularly pretty, that is for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:14 AM |
| 3 | Most of the bond girls were late 20s - early 30s.girl gets wrinkly around the face she gets very unfuckable. What? Jesus. Just not true. You like Catholic or something and think it's only for pro-creation? Never went cougar-hunting in college? My experience with that was one of the "red-pillest" parts of my life -- a lady who, at 43, knew that period time should be "blowjob" week, and she needed to be DTF all the time, and up for a threesome. In exchange, she got a guy who was 27, could cook well, and DTF all the time. No one expected it to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:11 AM |
| 3 | Most of the bond girls were late 20s - early 30s.Yup, same logic as "wanting to fuck someone younger is sooooo creepy." "Stranger-danger" is root-caused by older women's anxiety about men's preferences and their potential exclusion. In the end, a dog doesn't bother too much about who it's fucking, old young, fat, missing a leg, whatever..... But yeah, "Ev-Psych" and all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:04 AM |
| 1 | You don’t need a pill to understand why marriage is not a good idea and why the vast majority of the general population is not suitable for itWell, it's worth noting that Even Paul in the bible said you would have an easier life if you just lived solitary. This line of thinking, that it's a lot of work for less than you put in is nothing new, and even applies to red-pill heavens like ancient Roman territories. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Coronavirus quarantine has proved the 80/20 rule of the casual sex marketWow, so proved. Basically, anyone who isn't lifting like a bull and claims to have got sex for free from a female is either LARPing, underestimating their own wealth/class/social skills, fucking land-whales, or about to get divorce-raped. That's the only possibility because Ev-Psych. I'm so glad there are ACTUAL DATA-SCIENTISTS on reddit proving this constantly with Coronavirus data, non-coronavirus data, data from other planets and solar systems, and data on elections, job markets, sociology, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/20 11:59 PM |
| 2 | The implications of what this subreddit says are very scaryIt's also possible for man to find an older wealthier woman and be an armpiece. I did this myself in my last year of university. It was fine and fun and the sex was predictable and I lived in a nice house near Agnes Scott college and got taken to Europe when she was teaching a yoga retreat. People live all sorts of ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/20 04:28 AM |
| 1 | If sex is a need, why dont more guys just go to hookers?Totally OT, but have you tried SCA type events? A lot of people get laid there that "don't have any business getting laid with someone that hot." Both males and females. Hey, even a chubbier than your normal standard girl looks hotter in a tight bodice while swinging around a sword. And she'll be comfortable and having fun so the smile will make her more radiant. My own "red line" is I'm not attracted to fatsos, but I might totally consider it differently if she was just happy and radiant and en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 06:28 PM |
| 1 | If sex is a need, why dont more guys just go to hookers?I do understand that. However, what you're saying, between the lines, is also that you cannot offer validation to the girl JUST for the girl. Think about it, if you could, then the prostitute would be fine. You could love her, even if just for the moment (even if she's getting the validation of being fawned over and paid (and it does boil down to this being addictive for at least some strippers and prostitutes)). So, you're looking for a person who isn't getting validation from you so nakedly, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 04:59 PM |
| 1 | If sex is a need, why dont more guys just go to hookers?Absolutely true! Also, something about those guys, they also give off a vibe that naturally attracts the women who want a hungry guy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 04:51 PM |
| 1 | If sex is a need, why dont more guys just go to hookers?My problem with the "It" framework is several things: 1) It's overrated after all. It's just sex! 2) That mindset seems to preclude actually enjoying encounters. Like, that's also another human being you're sitting there with. There's a lot to enjoy besides fucking her (and if there isn't then why in god's name are you wasting your time with her and not hiring a prostitute?) 3) The whole frame kind of reduces ALL relationships to rapist/prostitute. I mean, the girl is going to "get the highest p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 04:50 PM |
| 2 | If sex is a need, why dont more guys just go to hookers?I did not personally hire them, but I occasionally saw just the low end of sex work, in KTVs and Binlang stands (where you could pay extra for just ONE Binlang, and get to touch the girl's boob -- like I said low end of sex work, LOL).... You know the non-commital half-smile that strippers do? I see that a lot with Binlang girls and KTV girls. Though I also see that with laobanyang's (female business owners), and I think it has to do with gauging and sussing things through the process of a negot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 04:42 PM |
| 2 | If sex is a need, why dont more guys just go to hookers?This reminds me of the old saying, "You're not paying for the sex, you're paying them to leave afterwards." I could see with married men that would be a major utility proposition that would be a lot harder to arrange with say, a mistress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/20 04:36 PM |
| 1 | What go you expect women to do when they’re horny?I see people responding to your statements as if they're bullshit. Here's an honest question though: How old are you? My experiences jibe with what you wrote here, and I just turned 40. I was into PUA in 2007, kind of at peak PUA, but didn't do too badly before that. However, I think the younger groups of men are fucking up because they are completely trying to do everything online. In the virtual, there's nothing but algorithms and leagues. OTOH, IRL, I have never, EVER had a sense that leagues… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/20 05:47 PM |
| 7 | If sex is a need, why dont more guys just go to hookers?like real sex So.... you want that girl who is like super-responsive to you and makes you feel all warm and wonderful and stuff? Trust me, she's a Swiss prostitute and she costs 500-1000 an hour. It's worth it because she will actually deliver all that. In the long run it's pretty cheap compared to all the time, money, and heartache you might go through looking for that perfect connection. Real sex with actual girlfriends is so variable that one could not say it is a monolithic thing. Ohhhhhhh..… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/20 05:08 PM |
| 25 | If sex is a need, why dont more guys just go to hookers?I honestly don't understand most guys on the internet. In my experience, many of the guys who freely visit hookers are also the guys who get free no-strings-attached sex pretty frequently. I think the really constantly hungry guys are doing it, and the really easy going guys do it a lot and don't have hang-ups about it and also come across to women very viscerally as guys who don't have hang-ups about casual sex. So the women around them who want casual sex naturally gravitate together with them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/20 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Where did "I Am The Prize" Go?Conversely, in the dating field, you are absolutely dependent on the approval of others. If you don't receive the approval of others then it is absolutely senseless to delude yourself that you're 'the prize'. Because you're quite clearly a prize that no-one wants. Unfortunately, due to the nature of women and the advent of technology, it's now unbelievably difficult to genuinely be 'the prize', or to view yourself that way without an inordinate sense of delusion. Because it becomes quite obvious… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/20 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Differences between men's and women's reactions to the one that got awayWitnesses to crimes are extremely unreliable. Memory is largely bullshit. When you look back at an EX, it's too easy to think of how hot they were or how nice the sex was, or how swell the beginning of the relationship was, or whatever. Hell, you probably have pictures of good times to look at. Some time in my late 20s, I started actively making sure to note the bad stuff leading up to the breakup. I missed exes a lot less when I was like, "Well, that drunk to retardation girl lying in the bed n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/20 02:19 AM |
| 5 | Discussion: But seriously, why isn't anyone dispensing red pill dating advice without the over the top craziness? You know, do the same fundamental thing, but like a normal personStoicism, real confidence, where does self-worth come from, how to be well rounded, etc. I reckon a lot of the people who get into Redpill and benefit from it read all this between the lines while getting rid of the insanity. People without that inherent tendency, to throw out dirty bathwater, while finding the baby in it, are probably not getting much out of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/20 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Going up or down? Relationships and COVID-19We live on a pretty big farm here in the States. We considered going back to Taiwan since I'm a legal permanent resident and she's got a passport from there, but my parents would have no one to take care of them at the end of the world. We're helping each other. There's some stress. But really, most days, most of the time, I could almost forget the world is ending. It's all basically fine. After getting groceries and trying to deal with the 16 steps of decontamination before moving from the gara… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/20 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it's possible to manipulate women's sexual preferences through mass propaganda?Everyone's preferences. I would wager nobody knows what they ACTUALLY want. If kids were never shown videos of other kids having orgasms ripple across their faces while opening candy or toys or playing with whatever, they would mostly find something else to like. Same with adults and whatever they think gets them going. I mean, a Corvette? Jesus, thing looks like an insect. But it's a symbol. Gucci bags? Really. Go fuck a lamp-post. None of that means anything to a 10th century viking (who has h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/20 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men : How much work/effort is dating (only during the time actually spent on your date) ?Married after serial (mostly) monogamy, just normal guy. Looking back, I would say that during happy periods, bad periods, honeymoon periods, and breakup periods, all of it is a large drain on resources and time. I know that doesn't directly answer your question, but I reckon that even compared to most LTRs, even during good times 100 bucks an hour for a hooker isn't a bad price in terms of all the other things one could be doing with one's life. I guess dating, being in love and romance, breaki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/20 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?afraid to clarify the situation it’s cus you know it might cost you the pum. Upvoted for your lack of comprehension. In the instance where there was something more than casual, and there was a reasonably implied expectation, I faded as gently as I could. Sometimes stuff just doesn't work like you expect. That's real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?Having a girlfriend comes with expectations, and one of those is exclusivity. Maybe things don't always work that way. But not reading the simple reality of it or thinking in steelmen rather than strawmen is a great dodge. Take an internet point for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 06:50 PM |
| -1 | Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?How so? I didn't give any of them a ring or promise them anything. And I actually ended up really liking one of them and sort of faded all the others out pretty fast..... What did I do that was wrong? The other thing you gotta know about that supervisor, is we really started out as "just friends." We went horseback riding a lot. Thing is, I really just enjoy horsemanship. I think she did too. I think it naturally evolved and we weren't expecting it. Eventually it was beyond where I thought it wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/20 05:38 AM |
| 3 | Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?No. Supervisor was the biggest crash. We'd been dating for awhile, just on and off and such. Not had sex yet. The situation needed care. She was clearly vulnerable. Once she emailed me on Friday evening and wanted to go to this famous romantic hotel out in another city by the sea. She emailed me at 6 or 7PM, and I had gone out drinking with one of my coworkers. I got her email at like 3AM, and she had sent like three more about how she had thought I might say no, but she trusted I would not just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Different women want different types of men. Why is this so hard to understand?"dating like 5 Asian girls at the time" The problem is that this is perceived as some kind of accomplishment. I had five girlfriends for awhile while living in an Airport town in an Asian country. Four of them were Asian and one was a White chick 1) White chick had slept over while I had been having sex with my previous GF (during previous GF's going away party, this girl had drunk too much alcohol and slept on the couch. BUT it was GF's going away party, so it wasn't like we weren't going to st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Is career still as important / a dealbreaker for women?Probably not what you think it will be. Before moving to Asia and getting a certain kind of different view of things, I did the "Younger Arm Candy" thing for awhile. She was hot, just slightly older than myself, and a yoga teacher who bent like a acrobat from le cirque, which she would take us to go see at 150 bucks a ticket. And she took us to Europe once as well. I lived with her in the good section of town (spitting distance from Agnes Scott College if anyone cares), and I attended college an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/20 11:54 PM |
| 6 | heres an idea. what if a girl didnt "wait for sex", but demanded STD tests from every guy?As over-rated, literally, as fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/20 11:42 PM |
| 1 | heres an idea. what if a girl didnt "wait for sex", but demanded STD tests from every guy?What is going on these days? I went to college in the early 2000s and this was exactly what everyone normally did. The cools and the Hots did it in HS, I gathered. I hear the new wave of Melennials and Gen Zs have less sex and are more conservative overall, but the whole "use condoms until you both have a clean bill of health" was just an accepted norm. Am I from the disappeared Middle Middle class or something and this mixture of Middle Class, well-educated "Not fucking everything that breathes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/20 11:40 PM |
| 3 | The term BB is too limiting. More and more often, women often lock down a beta man for his predictability and obedience, not necessarily his bux.I have seen exactly this in Asia in a lot of "post wall" women (and there that often means age > 30..... maybe 32 or so in these progressive times.). I had a girlfriend who was my date to a few such weddings and fond of pointing out that the men generally appeared "Easy to steer where you want them to go." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/20 07:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As a bisexual guy women are generally far more homophobic than men are when it comes to their partner being bisexual or having experimented with the same sexI would concur with this. A lot of women may be used to being really lazy bottoms in sex, unless they're from big cities and have explored more.... The key though, is to be willing to train a lover how to enjoy and be enjoyed in either role. For example, the second a girl sees herself with some leather chaps and a whip in her hand, there's a better than decent chance she'll get some level of excitement from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 03:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As a bisexual guy women are generally far more homophobic than men are when it comes to their partner being bisexual or having experimented with the same sexMy current age is 40 and married. Throughout my 20s and 30s, being openly bi, and openly switch (happy to hit someone with a riding crop or get hit, top or bottom, guy or girl, as long as they are hot) -- I think helped me get more gf's. I always think there's a sexy edge it gives off, somewhere between femme and dominant and masculine. Like Mick Jagger or Alexander the Great (both highly bi). Bi guys are often the REAL alphas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 03:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As a bisexual guy women are generally far more homophobic than men are when it comes to their partner being bisexual or having experimented with the same sexNo woman is ever going to say "well I guess my boyfriend sucking dicks isn't so bad after all". I dated at least four who liked it. One actually liked watching and fucking afterwards. Maybe you're right about the majority, but you know how stats work. Even if you're 99% correct, in a pool of ten women, there's almost a 10% chance one of them is different. Or, if you even think you are 99.9% correct (3-ish sigma certainty), then in a pool of 100 women, there is about a 10% chance one of them will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 03:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: As a bisexual guy women are generally far more homophobic than men are when it comes to their partner being bisexual or having experimented with the same sexMy experience has been that gay dudes sometimes hate and fear bisexuality. There's a lot of disgust for women and female anatomy, etc in some gay cliques. How many times did gay guys lecture me about how I was really just gay.in denial/trying to fit in/etc? Plenty. Meanwhile, I actually like women more than men. I just happen to be aware I am aroused by both, particularly based on scent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/20 02:55 PM |
| 1 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Given the state of Reddit, if he has any sense, he has inbox replies disabled. Everyone should always do that with every thread, and nothing to do with "how good" someone's arguments are. This guy says it better than me: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2020/01/16/the-internet-of-beefs/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Are Western girls culturally broken?I would definitely agree that big city people tend to be more blase and cynical about almost everything, including sex, relationships, etc.... By the time I finished High School, I was going to my second model UN in New York City (being from the South), and the high school students I met there attituded like they were 30. And my experience was similar in France. Paris -- bitches, even the guys. Privas, St Etienne -- REALLY nice and friendly girls everywhere. Even in the sense of being nice to me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/20 03:58 PM |
| 0 | Are Western girls culturally broken?This may have changed recently, but when I was getting my undergrad in Sociology (2004-2007), Black women had very strong in-group preferences, and much research was done about their frustration due to the lack of "marriageable black men" -- largely due to biases in the criminal justice system against Black men. Like I said, some of this might have changed in recent years. When I moved back to the USA, I was surprised by how many of my buddies are in biracial relationships. Maybe more black wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:57 PM |
| 4 | Are Western girls culturally broken?It depends where in Asia. In some places you're going to meet a lot of girls who definitely don't want to leave (Japan or Taiwan, from experience, have loads of these). I mean, if you were talking Switzerland or something, it would be cool, but not the US. Of course, poorer countries, he should be way more wise. However, he might be experiencing complimentary genetics/genetic diversity attraction. Also there's a bit of "exotic becomes erotic" in every culture. Also, my own experiences in Taiwan … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:49 PM |
| 5 | How common is it to see each other naked and it NOT lead to sex? (Dating)Teen in the 1990s, and I laugh looking back at those church services where you needed to repent for last night's fingering and partial blowjob. Yeah, I mean, growing up in that culture had its own set of quirks. Basically had done "everything butt" PiV by 17, but didn't actually do PiV until 23. I actually didn't manage to orgasm during PiV until 27 (and there wasn't a 'lack' of doing PiV between 23-27. I was in college, bi, androgynous, experimental, etc... I mean, I had plenty of fun, but foun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:34 PM |
| 1 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Your rhetorical question is bullshit, and you're deliberately avoiding the forest for small trees. Lets put it this way: One of the most common meditations that millions of people have reported getting peeks into emptiness / nonself is Ramana Maharshi's method of self-enquiry, "Who am I?" It goes directly there pretty fast, and specifically pointing to the emptiness within the person. You are almost guaranteed to succeed on it with a little dedication, and that will definitely strongly loosen so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 04:09 AM |
| 1 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....1) I had a Kung Fu teacher that would respond to everyone's bitching about relationship issues by telling them to think of S.O.s as a pet you like a lot, and if it shreds the couch or pisses on the floor or something, you don't need to make such a big deal out of it. After all, you knew you were getting a pet, right? You can still love it and play with it, but who cares, it's just a pet. THAT FRAME helped me a lot after I had a little PUA tech. 2) I like your phrase "Validation Fairy." Many of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 04:01 AM |
| 1 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Struggle does make men (people really) stronger, humble and more wise. But struggle doesn’t make you happier or more fulfilled. Nor does it make you more attractive to a woman. I agree, but you miss that stronger and more wise usually leads directly to happier and more fulfilled, and thus more attractive. Also, your thing about genetics and attractiveness, have you ever heard of the complimentary genetics theory of attractiveness? I hadn't even noticed it before, but I'm 6'1" and Bald. A lot of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:53 AM |
| 3 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Make sure she also wants that. Most everyone is coy about what they actually want. Most everyone in their 20s wants a serial monogamy or total nonmonogamy, whether they admit it (even to themselves) or not. A lot of shitstorms come after someone gets into a situation they didn't admit to themselves they didn't want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:48 AM |
| 2 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....in order to foster an LTR she has to be YOUR ENTIRE WORLD, because if you put in any less effort she won't be satisfied. No way. That will never satisfy anyone. I have always found girls happiest when they're NOT even close to my "entire world." Mostly because most girls do make relationship stuff (which is largely a waste of time) their entire world. It's better to be a pillar for them to lean on than be leaning my entire world on them.... For realz, if an LTR is your entire world, or even clos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:46 AM |
| 1 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....The one person who did is widely believed to have done that 2500 years ago and apparently no one else has since then. One known exception in all recorded history. Practcally speaking, the statement stands that as a general rule you don't drop an identity and replace it with a void. Not even close to the case. This is the weirdest reading of Buddhism ever. Yeah, to become a Buddha is rare in Guptas of Guptas of time, but to become enlightened? No. To have Kenshos, Nondualities, and genuine Samedi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:39 AM |
| 3 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Everyone is always interchangeable, and that's fine. If you were born to different parents wouldn't you still love them? If you had a different pet growing up, wouldn't it still be your favorite? If your brother or sister were a different person, would they be less so your brother or sister? If a different person had been born your child, would you have loved them any less? It doesn't really mean anything that people are basically interchangeable. It really isn't a big deal, either. If I underst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/20 03:34 AM |
| 1 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....You like S&M? I enjoy the experience of pushing someone past where they're comfortable. "You want to be spanked? You think it will be like x? Les see what happens when it crosses into the realm of too much/loss of control/real fear." The look in the eyes, the voice, etc.... it's priceless. A long time ago, I never thought I would like it. Now I think it's great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 11:51 PM |
| 2 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....This really doesn't apply to me, although I wish it were true. I've been really trying to put myself out there for the past few months, and have just gotten my self-esteem crushed. I haven't found it "shockingly easy" to get laid at all. So, I give a detailed answer below. One of the things I have seen is if a guy can "get the ball rolling" with a few successes, then often things turn around. Two or three things can be helpful. 1) I have seen some really wounded guys do okay in Taiwan, outside T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 09:10 PM |
| 1 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Look, the women are mostly damaged people in a damaged culture (so are men). But it's also true that you don't owe anything to damaged people or a damaged culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 08:55 PM |
| 2 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Well, I thought of this, and think of this from time to time. I actually agree with you in the sense that it works when it's not fully overwhelming. But you also don't want a single message to turn into a "wall of text." I've been bitched at enough times about that on reddit to cut some nuances when I post. Like Taleb (who is a fan of crossfit style training) says, Jumping off a bench a few times will probably make you stronger, or overwhelming your body with workout occasionally will make you s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 08:51 PM |
| 2 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....You don't drop an identity and replace it with a void. You've obviously never met Buddhism, where the method is often precisely that. Now, you might put the identity back on afterwards, but there's a difference between knowing its an empty mask (one which is a lot more flexible than before) and thinking the mask was who you were. "I want to be a Chad" identity for a "I'm ok waiting even longer for sex, because I'm a reasonable man". That's also a really horrid dichotomy. Why are those the two ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 03:31 PM |
| 3 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Okay, so your experience differs. Maybe I'm wrong about it, or it doesn't apply for some other reason, but I have found there is a correlation. I haven't ever hired one for myself, but I have hired them for a teacher and for a friend. I would be very comfortable hiring one for myself. The people I have known who had a lot of casual sex and high N count were also people who would fuck prostitutes. The thing is, most of the Incels want validation. You've gotta see that, at least. Now, this gets co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 02:57 PM |
| 9 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....I basically object to the idea that "fair" somehow means one automatically gets everything they (think they) want. That doesn't even make sense. And I'm not even talking in the "be tough" gruff sense of "life's not fair" but I mean that's not even a realistic view if you fucking got all your wishes. Life, for people who have any sense, is clearly more like the Daoist story: "There was once a farmer in ancient China who owned a horse. “You are so lucky!” his neighbours told him, “to have a horse … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 02:47 PM |
| 6 | "Being Settled for" and narcissistic wounds... a lot of the crux of incel/RP/MGTOW/BP/etc.....Here's a litmus test: Would you fuck a hooker or would it damage your identity to "have to pay for it?" I find guys who are comfortable hiring prostitutes are often also in the category of "naturals" for whom it's also relatively easy to go and find reasonably attractive women for casual sex, be it in person or via Scout. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 02:42 PM |
| 6 | How is a guy going to slut-shame women and then throw a fit if a woman has a three month rule?My close female friends for decades come from a Christian high School we attended, and what you say is correct. Drunken confessionals only rarely boil down to having engaged in a lot of "risky behavior" (which means sex, to women), and normally boil down to Failed LTRs and a lot of self-questioning as to why they failed, and a couple of ONSs, and maybe wondering if they could have been more. The ONSs aren't a rogues gallery of Hotties either, like you said. Some of them are rebounds. There are s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 02:17 PM |
| 12 | How is a guy going to slut-shame women and then throw a fit if a woman has a three month rule?I think you're hitting the nail on the head. People are combining two different statistical averages, assuming 100% on both of them and thus 100% overlap. "She ''made'' me ''wait'' for it." Happened to him a few times, happened to some other 6 guys online. Therefore "AWALT." "That guy 'didn't have to' ''wait''." Happened to his hot buddy once in High School, happened to some other Chads online. Therefore "AWALT." All the French intellectual quotation marks are because the underlying frames of al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 02:12 PM |
| 3 | How is a guy going to slut-shame women and then throw a fit if a woman has a three month rule?You ever watch plays? In almost every case, after everyone takes off their mask and gets applause, the villain gets the most applause, the standing ovation. I think it's because people are all hrboring shadows of inconsistency, conflicting desires, values they claim to have versus vales they have (and even the truly held ones might appear hypocritical and in conflict when laid bare). We humans are a complex lot, and if you want logical consistency, even within a single person, you're asking too … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 02:03 PM |
| 1 | TRP, FDS, the prisoner's dilemma, and the endgame.Dude, there are incel women in High Class Asian cultures (Taiwan and Japan, don't know about Korea). I have met >30 year old women who had money, traveled the world, had their first boyfriend at 35, couldn't figure out the basic social stuff... can't make it work. One of them is still fighting one-itis about her German programmer boyfriend (who I don't think was ever what I would have called her "boyfriend" anyway, but was her first BF, and she's like past 40). There are more than you think. The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 03:41 AM |
| 1 | TRP, FDS, the prisoner's dilemma, and the endgame.Assuming a single play with a single person, you're right. Effectively you turn it into an iterative game. But, there are also long-play iterative co-op/non-cooop games happening all around us. They're called LTRs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 03:35 AM |
| 1 | TRP, FDS, the prisoner's dilemma, and the endgame.Non-coop is good for single round PD. Co-op, though is a lot better for iterative. Now that you're putting it this way, what about the algrithms that can, overtime, choose absolutely what score their partner converges to (and thus have some amount of extortionist or payoff capabilities for "play ball with me).... Maybe those algos will save Westerners' LTRs? LOL, but maybe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Why do redpillers ignore the grimy side of getting a high N-Count?"They don't talk boyfriends how try to shank you because their girl cheated with you" In 2007 or 2008, Matador and that kid who won "The Pickup Artist" '''reality show''' came to Atlanta lair a couple of times. Those guys were fly, but the kid did get punched in the jaw at a club after making out with some married chick (who TBH, deceived the kid, and was probably gaming her husband more than anything).... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Do you agree that everyone can be perceived as creepy including (even attractive) women?Well, the bar is set differently for different types. Take Arya Stark, a fictional character who was loved, idolized, hence accepted by many. She's a fucking psychopath. BUT, everyone forgives it because baby_face+female+young+we_know_backstory. Any one of those is pretty much useful (even baby faced males get lighter sentences).... but all of them together? I mean, she was absolutely right in the universe of that story to do everything she did, but imagine it being a 32 year old guy. It might f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/20 03:19 AM |
| 2 | Why do weeb Red Pillers fetishize Japan and Korea when these countries have many of the problems they complain about?That's what I mean. I don't think people who haven't traveled "Off-the-beaten-path" for a good period and been around people from backwards places in a few different contexts really understand it. This isn't about "looking down" on someone -- I don't know a polite way to say it, it's just a situation where there's no basis for relating and nothing like an equal footing for relating. Oddly, I have run across native aboriginals from Taiwan that you could probably bypass mosr of these problems with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/20 05:24 AM |
| 3 | [CMV] The Red Pill is literally encouraging men to become mentally ill; even if the process attracts women, it is extremely damaging to a man's psycheAndrew Yang might not know "what he's talking about" in some sense, but you picked the wrong sentence to quote for that. The fact that a whole fuck-lot of job are about to be automated, being automated, already GOT automated is non-controversial, well-known, and would be stupid to try to debate against. It's very little to do with offshoring that is making Red State flyover Hicks unemployed and everything to do with automation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/20 01:11 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] The Red Pill is literally encouraging men to become mentally ill; even if the process attracts women, it is extremely damaging to a man's psycheNot to change your view, but our culture is set up to make both men and women mentally ill. Women spend a lot of time "making men wrong." I mean, people contextualize it as "shit testing" but if you pay attention to how much of the time Girls and women roll their eyes or otherwise "i can't even" or some other expression of the people around them are wrong -- it's nuts. It's so prototypically feminine in the West that it's a way to appear feminine, just roll your eyes and huff. Do a somewhat more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/20 01:06 AM |
| 2 | What would happen if men were allowed free reign of sexual expression?"You know that one scene in Gia where the girl has Angelina Jolie, pushing her boob up against the fence? Yeah? That's so hard and awesome." Just check "Queer Positive" and "By Womyn For Womyn" or some permutation of all this in porn. 50% will be S&M. Now, I know that a person can get piled on, and I'll probably redact this later, but for a percentage of the Ls in GLBT, Lesbian Bed Death (LBD) shows up. Not all, LOL. Plenty are open, swinging, crazy fucking, fun and enjoying themselves into thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/20 12:56 AM |
| 1 | What would happen if men were allowed free reign of sexual expression?You already have this. It's called gay culture. As far as I could tell when I was in it, PUA in the 2006-2009 golden era was mostly like creating a gay culture for straight people. And oddly, a lot of what people say about productivity on this thread DOES apply to gays (along with plenty who sink into depravity).... Lesbians are also quite productive, I find, with somewhat less depravity (except S&M to overcompensate against LBD -- yeah, I'm looking at you EVERY "By Lesbians For Lesbians" "Sex P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Why do so many people like anal sex?I had a GF want to peg me anally, and I said, "Sure, just let me prep" -- almost exact same line, and she lost interest. I mean, I've been with guys, it's fine. I didn't care. She looked hot packing, and I was fine with it.... I think there's something about "the idea of it" that gets messed up when reality is involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 08:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Dark Triad Looks Bad on DweebsObvious inward-turned anger, which always festers and does more damage than outward-turned anger. Won't Glock the office (probably), but a healthy reptile brain will still steer you well clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Why do weeb Red Pillers fetishize Japan and Korea when these countries have many of the problems they complain about?As long as you don't kid yourself into thinking its not cold-needled prostitution, you'll be fine. Like I said, god help you if you try to make it into something else. I meant in your mind/heart/soul. Even when she "falls in love" or even Falls In Love. Look, in real life, in this for-real prostitution, that poor kid is gonna fall in love with you ""for real"" (TM). And that's when prostitution tends to turn its darkest. Hey, maybe you'll come out okay. Maybe. Maybe you're a unicorn or she's a u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 03:30 AM |
| 2 | Are sex robots the cure to all of men’s woes?It could be he's very successful and high value. See, I worked really hard in my 30s and now run my own consulting and project management businesses. I do something I like, I get paid decently, and I feel very interested in my life and where it is continuing to go. I also keep developing new skills to bring my consulting in new directions, constantly learning new things, etc. Really, I don't have time for most people, CERTAINLY not any kind of relationship Drama, neediness, etc. If things didn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 03:02 AM |
| 5 | Are sex robots the cure to all of men’s woes?If I wanted to give my credit card to Reddit, I would give you Gold. I often stop my wife in the middle of an argument and say, "You and I sound like a couple of goddamned NPCs, lets go watch a movie." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 02:55 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Dark Triad Looks Bad on DweebsLook, the basic premise of OP is kind of easy to prove to anyone with some social sense. Here's the physical exercise: 1) Stick out your jaw, like an overly angry veteran or something. 2) Now puff out your chest. 2b) Take a picture, look in the mirror, whatever. 3) Now cave your chest inwards, roll your shoulders forward. Basically "hunch over" with your jaw still stuck out all angry. 3b) Take a picture, look in the mirror, whatever. "Aggressive" when someone is otherwise healthy just looks aggr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Why do weeb Red Pillers fetishize Japan and Korea when these countries have many of the problems they complain about?Okay, fair. But you will NEVER get shoulder checked crossing a street by a Japanese or a Taiwanese guy. You will NEVER get any overt aggression and hatred because you're foreign from a Japanese under 45 or a Taiwanese of any age (They're all too busy rolling their eyes and being embarrassed for the loud-ass Hong-Kongers and Chinese). And you will get no flack in Taiwan (and maybe about as much flack in Japan as in Korea, though) for dating or marrying the family's anointed special princess daugh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/20 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Question For Women: If you were suddenly a man, what would you do to have sex with women?I don't understand how milennials could afford NOT TO do that. Like, what money are they making out in Meth Country that they wouldn't make in one of the 11 major cities in USA? I grew up close to one of those major cities (Atlanta) and starting at age 18, never worked for less than 20-25 dollars an hour (in 1998, in sales) throughout my 20s (exception, during undergrad, I worked at the school for a tuition discount and 12 dollars an hour, though I ran my "real business" on the side)... But peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/20 04:49 PM |
| 2 | Question For Women: If you were suddenly a man, what would you do to have sex with women?Can confirm, all this actually worked. Source, Female in Male body (aware of since age 3), didn't take hormones or change anything, did all the above, not on Social media AT ALL, and haven't had "dry spells" since age 26 (was super religious until 21, so had a little learning curve (about everything)). Eventually moved to Asia, lived happily ever after (so far, anyways) RP isn't the only way to happiness, and BP are all idiots. Life is meant to be lived and enjoyed. Generally people in the proce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/20 04:42 PM |
| 5 | Why do weeb Red Pillers fetishize Japan and Korea when these countries have many of the problems they complain about?Simple answer, from someone who lived in Asia (Taiwan) and Hung out in Japan a lot over my ten years in Asia: It's basically a "warm" dating culture, similar to Eastern Europe. It's easy to meet and talk to people anyway, on trains, at coffee places, in parks, etc. People are warm and welcoming. Also, as a foreigner you have got some natural attractiveness, to at least some of the population. As an American, in some places, you're going to have extra clout (though in Hipster circles, they need t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/20 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Women find negative feminine traits unattractive.I sometimes think "Tall beats all" in attractiveness. My experience is that being just over 6' tall, I am usually with women more easily, and who are on average prettier than a lot of guys with more SRV who are short. I knew a 5'6" doctor who drove us both around in his 300z, who just struggled everywhere we'd go. There was always somebody for me to hook up with in the end, it seemed. Of course, Re: OP, I'm also transgendered, but never took much estrogen or did any surgeries, and often get cloc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/20 04:38 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyWow, I hear Syrian Rue is a bit less gentle than Mama Aya. Caapi, I am informed has got some balances of harmalines that tend to create pleasant warm feelings. Rue has a different mixture. Acacia is strong, though. My own solo experiences have been Caapi vine and Acacia Confusa I wild-harvested in the mountains of Taiwan, well away from society. Just getting "the right one" was sometimes a journey in itself. I have been fortunate to have found a very good Shaman, not just some asshole Bruja or f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/18 11:44 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyHey, thanks for your reply! But the SOC evolves and gets added to as medical knowledge and science catches up, it is not static and it’s something you have to prove with expert testimony. The SOC did not become invented specifically just for lawsuit prevention - it’s primary purpose is for patient safety and efficacious treatment. I understand that SOCs change and why people think they are writing them. My point is, it is in the doctor's best interest to stick to the SOC regardless of whether he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/18 09:10 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with Therapy"Colors" is vague enough that I must agree, LOL. I would say if done well it should "color" your experience very useful. Also, are you EVER the sole origin of your experience? How would you even do that? Most of what is in every brain is like a garbage can from the society around that brain. Even if you've done a lot of meditation, there's still going to be lots of those things. ESPECIALLY if you've done a lot of meditation, this should be obvious. And with Aya, there are huge interactions with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/18 07:13 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyI don't mean that a lawyer directly speaks to them to tell them what to say and what not to say. It wouldn't matter if your Pyschiatrist thought you should go and take Psilocybin Mushrooms, he's going to prescribe SSRIs and follow procedures because if someone goes and takes the SSRIs and then they kill themselves or get in a road rage accident or whatever, if he gets called into court, all his actions are defensible. If the same patient took the psilocybin, the psychiatrist is more exposed. I t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/18 07:05 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyNeither do many "Professionals" give specialized and tailored self-help advice. They will often tell you what the lawyers say they need to be taught to say to not get sued. You got any idea how many people MD's kill in a year by over-prescribing meds alone? (One hint, the number is bigger than suicides). There are a lot of fucked up incentives in those industries. They aren't even close to purely science and knowledge-based at this point. No particular reason to have faith in their advice anymor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/18 10:05 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyI would TOTALLY agree on number 2. Number 1, I had to realize was also, "I would not like to be with that girl." I mean, I roll around pretty confident and unapologetic for much of anything (ruined by a decade in Asia, my man). When I go to most American Bars/Clubs the people strike me like a bunch of Hungry Ghosts, looking for attention and hoping to vampire social status off of people, getting their rocks off with velvet ropes and shit. Someone would say they have "Approach Anxiety." I might s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/18 09:59 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyConsider pressing the "easy button" on your life and moving to Asia (Or Eastern Europe). I was doing 'fairly well' with PUA in the USA, then I got out in the big world and my game was waaaaaaaaay TF more than necessary. People will say, "You don't even need game in those places" and I'm like, "Why didn't I move there when I was 22? Is there some benefit to banging your head against a cultural wall of wounded bitches and special princesses in the USA?" My friends in Poznan sometimes bump into Roo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/18 09:54 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyI think the people who get into doing a thousand approaches are often the guys who are enneagram 3, emotionally achievement oriented and don't want to lose face. Hey, that's a huge market. This type also easily confuses activity for achievement, and a lot of gurus sell to this tendency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/18 09:48 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyI have sometimes found it's just really good. Ayahuasca notoriously gives you what you NEED. Everyone seems to have some puritanical notion that that always means pain, LOL. Maybe Aya wants to heal that, who knows? In my case, the first two sessions had a whole lot of that lesson for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/18 09:46 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyIs it okay to pay your Shaman? The ceremony is half the benefit of Mama Aya, when done right. I agree though that therapy can be a kind of prostitution that leaves one a little..... cold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/18 09:44 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyThe therapy model often sees people as partial people. What I mean by this is that Psychiatry takes you for an idiot. Like placebo controlled studies. Lots of people KNOW when they get a pill that doesn't do anything. A REAL placebo would do nothing except make your fingers tingle or something, so you thought, "Oh, I got the real medicine." But Psychiatry assumes everyone is so completely out of touch with their bodies and minds that they really don't know when something is affecting them or the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/18 09:41 PM |
| 1 | My Beef with TherapyA therapist can only do one of two things: Collude with you or collide with you. Collusion on the part of the therapist makes people stick around, as in "I love my therapist, I've been seeing her for fifteen years." Basically they can turn you into an annuity. Collide with them and they will leave. Even Gary Halbert, the great salesman extraordinaire, failed entirely to sell a weight loss product based on the notion that "You're fat because of your choices and habits." You just can't sell that. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/18 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Study documents surprisingly high rate of female-perpetrated rape.My guess is these conversations tend to devolve a bit because we are putting people into categories. PROBABLY none of the people in this conversation ever raped anybody, so when someone says, "Meh, call US when YOU are getting raped less than US," it's a categorization issue. Any "US" and "YOU" is just going to create problems. The best I've seen of feminism, there is only US -- humans. Isn't it just as bad if any individual gets raped? I don't begrudge anyone for making the most useful decision… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 06:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The 'sexual liberation' only benefits women and top-tier men.Then the main thing you should look out for if you move over to Asia is a girl marrying you because you are easy to steer. I watched this happen to loads of the successful and intelligent local men in Taiwan. I saw it happen to one or two foreigners as well. I guess they were happy with the wives they got "out of their league" (by their Western social standards, not Taiwanese standards, LOL). All I'm saying is to make sure you live your life the way you want. You're young and you don't have kids… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 06:02 AM |
| 1 | Is the "cock carousel" truly the reason why women aren't attracted to their "beta" husbands?Yeah, and I'm saying that what she wants isn't even what she wants. Nor, frankly, is what he wants. Instead, it's all kind of socially manipulated narcissistic identity games. Unless that's dealt with (and it's a huge topic, getting at the heart of most people's major life drives), then any other solution is really going to do fuck all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 05:51 AM |
| 2 | There's no such thing as a "rape fantasy".I get what you're saying, and it seems tautologically true on the surface. On the other hand, what if the fantasy is linked to the real desire to NOT HAVE CHOICE and be OUT OF CONTROL? Like the desire to be tied up. Everyone who gets tied up doesn't have the person tying them up doing everything they command them to do. The fantasy is about loss of choice and loss of control, and the desire to act it out is common and real. If the person doing the tying up FAILS to in some way break expectations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Very very very simple question about N-count. This is for men in particular but women can respond too and give their thoughts.I was replying to someone saying that EVERYTHING is transactional. I was giving examples of people who engage in all kinds of things having nothing whatsoever to do with SMV or RMV transactional value at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Very very very simple question about N-count. This is for men in particular but women can respond too and give their thoughts.Not remarkable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 05:03 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The 'sexual liberation' only benefits women and top-tier men.Perhaps, in this case. Perhaps. But there's always more than what's said, IRL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 04:56 AM |
| 1 | Is the "cock carousel" truly the reason why women aren't attracted to their "beta" husbands?But here's a problem: WHY does she want him? Everyone says, "biology, biology, biology" but then you go to the Trobriand Islands and everyone is fucking everyone at age 12, and every man is trained to give every woman multiple orgasms through vaginal sex, and every woman is trained to have them easily, the tribe benefits from more kids, and everyone fucks with no restrictions. They're all basically "done" by early 20s, and occasionally do it, but it "ain't a big deal" and they tend to view it as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Is the "cock carousel" truly the reason why women aren't attracted to their "beta" husbands?Are you saying Johnny Mascis doesn't get laid real hard like Saint Chadwick due to the Law of the Jaw? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 04:19 AM |
| 3 | Is the "cock carousel" truly the reason why women aren't attracted to their "beta" husbands?This is true. My observations in PUA was that a lot of guys can SDL because they make it clear that they get it, and they don't mind that they're interchangeable with someone else (after all, the girl is, too), and this could just be for one night or maybe another call or maybe not. The LEAST successful PUAs I knew were often the ones who really REALLY wanted the girl to want him just for HIM. Like good lord, what would that even entail? But nowadays when I go to a bar, I see those kinds everywh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 04:17 AM |
| 1 | Is the "cock carousel" truly the reason why women aren't attracted to their "beta" husbands?This sounds like bitterness, not science. On the other hand, you might have a point. Anonymous surveys might not mean shit, but you'd have to find a way to demonstrate it outside conjecture. Is this like Kinsey following guys from bath houses to their suburban homes and quizzing them in anonymous surveys and finding they deny having any homosexual tendencies even though they were directly observed giving rad head to some chiseled 1950s Chad just a week before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 04:11 AM |
| 3 | In the wake of all the porn threads: what do we think of data showing women are more likely to search out violent porn and have rape fantasies?Church is fucked up. Basically in church sex is the devil. I think the calculus is this: 1) "Some" women are "pure" and not sex obsessed. This is the only category of people who might be alright. 2) Women who aren't "pure" or who like sex are evil. 3) We know all men are pigs, so they are also definitely evil. I don't think anyone gets out of it sane. As for who gets it worse? Well, women get the fucked up standards to TRY TO LIVE UP TO, and feel guilt and shame for failure. Men get guilt and sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 03:56 AM |
| 1 | In the wake of all the porn threads: what do we think of data showing women are more likely to search out violent porn and have rape fantasies?Same. When I think I've "pushed it further than she has any right to be comfortable with." Instead of the first safe word, I usually get a glossy look and a really happy smile. Then it becomes a normal thing. True with most of them. Not exactly 100%, but def. more than 50% or 66%. Sheesh, can't a guy get a cuddle or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Is this King/Queen or Captain/First Mate model entirely in people's heads?Right on! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 05:31 AM |
| 1 | Is this King/Queen or Captain/First Mate model entirely in people's heads?"It seems most people live in tight loops where few real decisions are made, and most arguments stem from miscommunication rather than the allocation executive power." That's right on. Most people's entire lives are in tight loops to avoid decisions. And most arguments are definitely due to miscommunication in relationships, but people FEEL IT as executive power issues. People often get horny on power relationships, they have loads of internal auditory rehearsing use of power and assertions of i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 05:29 AM |
| 1 | The TMI laydees-only sex toy thread. Or, "how my understanding of women's orgasms was smashed on the weekend..."Okay, if I've understood you correctly, you're saying that 1) women respond to pleasure basically like men do. I think that's clearly true. Everyone will respond to orgasms. If you could push a button and come, men and women and everyone would push that button a whole lot (I think this has been demonstrated in animals). 2) Women often get excited about sex and go into it really wanting to have the fun orgasms. Okay, this also makes sense, like DUH. 3) PIV sex and sometimes oral or whatever is be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Very very very simple question about N-count. This is for men in particular but women can respond too and give their thoughts.Except the fact that girl number one was 15, and he banged her on and off until she was 19 and they both moved away to college. Those years are longer and more vivid than anything he's likely experienced in the interim. Girls from 15-19 are unearthly beautiful. Even if they're "just" a "six," compared to any human female over 23, they're a twelve. He was horny enough back then they fucked seven, eight times a day. And it was exciting and had all kinds of danger and social "wrong attached to it."… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 03:51 AM |
| 3 | Very very very simple question about N-count. This is for men in particular but women can respond too and give their thoughts.I brought this up in another thread. So, Einstein dreamed one night of riding a lightwave, and he got excited about his intuition, know he was onto something. He spent the next two or three years trying to figure out the exact maths, but ended up with special relativity. Where's the transactional drive of that? That has little to do with Sexual Market Value. Plenty of people have been driven by Truth and Beauty and lived almost monk-like existences. Michaelangelo. A good book is "The Agony and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 03:40 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The 'sexual liberation' only benefits women and top-tier men.Have you considered moving to Asia? If you have money, or you can make money programming, consider China. Keep your visa teaching and make your money on Upwork with your computer gigs. Otherwise, if you're just a guy who is a bit awkward, Japan. Stay outside of the big cities in China or Taiwan. Girls in places like Taipei and Shanghai are like girls in New York -- there's a lot to prove, often to other women or themselves or family or whatever. Just too many fucking axes to grind. Korea is some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 03:19 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The 'sexual liberation' only benefits women and top-tier men.It's a weird point. I've had two different girlfriends suggest that I should do that at some point if things got to a certain point over the years they expected to be with me..... It was a weird conversation that I didn't bring up in both cases. It's definitely not always as cut and dry as "No" = "No." I'm not advocating rape, but I'm saying you gotta have some sense about real people in real situations in real lives with real agreements with each other that are balanced carefully between explic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 03:07 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The 'sexual liberation' only benefits women and top-tier men.Sorry. women are marrying men they're just not all that into. If it were otherwise, women wouldn't be talking incessantly about their past sexploits. To be realistic, you've claimed a mind read followed by a mind read followed by a generalization and a mind read. Think about this for a second. Aren't their other very simple reasons why someone could Dead BR? I mean, lets look at the very people who INVENTED IT -- lesbians. These people would swear they found their soulmate every time they meet a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?What I described overall is the type of relationship that is egalitarian. As I said: "RP might be ONE WAY for couples to find attraction together, but almost entirely opposite frameworks and mindsets can also work very well and naturally. And I think within those mindsets and frameworks there could be a lot of horizontal relating and clear and transparent communication. There's room for weakness and strength in both parties." If I am mischaracterizing RP as being basically anti-egalitarian and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Are all these groups connected to particular personality types?Most people I run into are either authoritarian-moralist, scientific-materialists, or egalitarian-relativists. Some people will have a little of one or two of the others here and there, but most everyone is firmly in one of those three camps. This is in politics, religion, business, whatever... Also, each of them things the others are destroying everything good about humanity and life. But it also seems obvious that they are are all useful. Sometimes. :-) The promise of "Purple Pill" is surely t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Are all these groups connected to particular personality types?You know, I've thought on all this on and off, and I happen to agree with what you say, that RP is a first stepping stone towards these kinds of thoughts. See, one thing I DO GET is that most men out there are basically acting like total twats who expect someone else to take responsibility for them and validate them. There's no sense of SELF to build anything upon. Basically, men largely don't seem to have any foundation in the self and are hoping to have someone else prove to them that they exi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?Wouldn't it be much easier to find the honesty in the relationship if the beginnings of the relationship were based on the same honesty? My experience tells me that the character you START something with will color the entire duration of the thing. Example: I once dated a girl after we had both moved to Taiwan. We clicked like REAL WELL, but neither of us knew how long we'd stay there. Eventually she called me up one day saying, "I'm really horny, lets make this thing happen." Even though we end… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?Many have heard the story that the first wife of Adam was Lilith, who was his complete equal, and wanted to take the sexually dominant position as often as not. Adam didn't like this, so God made him another. Not many have heard the story of wife number 2. I've never heard a name for her, but supposedly Adam watched as God took part of him and made her, starting with the bones, then the muscles, and nerves, and blood vessels and everything. He saw her from the inside out as she was being made. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?75-80% of couples or maybe a lot more are just two people that are trying to prove that they exist, in some kind of symbiotic relationship with the other person's patterns. Maybe RP applies to a lot of them because most men aren't taking responsibility for their own positions and emotions, instead expecting the woman (or guy buddies) to feelz along with them and validate them. Meanwhile, insecure women are trying to keep men in their place (which is ultimately, in her reptile mind, right there b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?Right, this has also been my own experience since around age 30. And I think the people I've been doing this with haven't been unicorns, either. Nor was everyone involved exactly 100% happy and everything all the time either. But my experience tells me that it's possible to just be straight with people without being autistic or it necessarily putting people off. Although, IRL, I do put SOME PEOPLE off..... because I'm pretty direct about everything all the time, and I don't try to be unoffensive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?That seems like a useful question. I mean that whatever is being talked about, yes means yes, no means no, a question really means a question, and an answer really is an answer. If there is a sense of incongruency (and basically everyone is a good detector of this), then people won't feel comfortable to whatever extent that incongruency is there...... from "Hmmm, something seems a little awkward and normally everything is free-flowing between us" all the way to the hairs on the back of my neck r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?For the most part, I agree that "liking subtext and drama" is something neurotics get into. But we've got to allow that something like 20%, maybe less, of conversation is the content, the rest is other than conscious.... All the left-brained auditory in the world doesn't amount to a huge percentage of what we're actually about as humans. So, I could rephrase to "subtext is a normal part of human interaction for every non-vulcan." But then, the subtext of open and honest clear communication is pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:30 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?BY THE WAY, I do get where you're coming from, if he was saying EVERYTHING HE THINKS, there would be something repulsive happening. It would be a bit like a guy losing attraction for a girl after she walks around farting all the time. But I'm also saying that one's own shame is the cause of all that, and there are other approaches besides TRP for dealing with it. Yeah, use a bit of judiciousness about what is revealed, but that's a fairly natural process which has got nothing to do with TRP. I n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?I was definitely not being poetic, I'm putting everything in concrete real-life examples. Each of those is things I mention I've done, and the vibe is fairly typical of how I like to interact (except being a "Bernie Bro," but I am a leftist)..... Anyways, what if the truth IS poetic? I cannot speak for "men" but the thing you said: " if men were 100% transparent to [women] about their wants, needs, worries and desires. please include their SEXUAL longings" I am pretty sure that to say all that, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?Is that a pre-requisite? Couldn't people also be honest about sex? Did you ever see "A beautiful mind?" I think it's pretty much the story of John Nash's life. He finally met a girl where his whole theory of, "Can we skip the pre-amble and get to the sex" worked. I felt from the way it was presented that she LIKED THE DIRECTNESS. It's nice to know exactly where you really stand with someone, isn't it? Where no means no and yes means yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?Okay, I agree with you that A) it's very broad and B) you probably shouldn't tell EVERYthing to ANYone. Do you think that TRP ideas of evolutionary biology explain the things you can and cannot talk about, or is it just that you don't necessarily want to find that you "do not meet" on those points, or what? Basically, I'm asking if TRP groks the reason you shouldn't talk about those things or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?I get it, but I'm painting a picture of a type of person who is as diametrically opposite the TRP evolutionary biology about men being dominant and SMV based on certain vertical relating points. And trying to do so while not invoking unicorns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?Okay, I get that "relationship advice" sources are often self-serving, infantalizing, and stupid. I like that RP has got some fire in it for sure. But couldn't the dominance, traditionalism, and identity frameworks of TRP end up also breaking up some relationships? You know there are some leftist men who have some really nice sexual relationships with some leftist women, right? I don't think this is unicorn territory, either.... but comparing a TRP guy and a handsome Bernie Bro, who is more like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?You've never met anyone who was a counterexample? Someone who trusted their own innocence and spoke their mind where "yes" really meant YES and "no" really meant NO? You're essentially saying every woman you've known is so self-deceptive that they would never be capable of honesty..... I get that this could be common (probably a lot of men are also just as armored and fucked up), but good lord is there any good reason to deal with those women of whom you think that is the case? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe straightforward and transparent conversation can exist between men and women? What about in an LTR?Okay, so if I follow what you're saying, after some period of time, attraction will pass..... (by the way, this happens in non-straight relationships as well)... So the main usefulness of RP, or some other method of managing subtexts, is in maintaining a relationship over a long haul? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 02:45 PM |
| 6 | TRP mimics the syptoms of being attractive, not the cause.That's interesting. In a way, fitting the strong and powerful independent archetypes might ALLOW the man to finally be the knight in shining armor, the pillar for his woman, that he really wanted to be all along. I do see the string of conservatism and traditional roles running through TRP, and it seems a lot of those guys might really like to be "nice guys." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 02:10 PM |
| 4 | If being a male feminism is not a sexual strategy, why are gay male feminists almost unheard of?Femininity is often seen as a perjorative, and one that's slung against gay males especially: "sissy," "swish," etc. Gay males have a lot of personal interest in feminism from the perspective that there should be nothing wrong with femininity, and I have heard gay men talk about it from that perspective. Yes, MOST of the gay guys I have met have been hyper-masculine, plenty of gym rats and Superman's mandible jaws. But swishes also exist, and the fact is that young men who deviate from masculini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Are all these groups connected to particular personality types?Building a healthy body generally benefits anyone who does it, for a huge pile of reasons. Open to risk is a trait that helps reach peak experiences a lot faster. Sociopathically ruthless is great in a capitalist society. I'm not saying these aren't USEFUL. I wouldn't bother to argue against people's lived experiences. The STORY that gets told about it might be false, though, even if a lot of people buy the frame. You mention stoicism, which based on my reading of Marcus Aurelius is specifically… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Are all these groups connected to particular personality types?Do you think I'm misrepresenting RP? How so? My whole thought process really does hinge on that view. "It seems pretty insane to boil down human relations to "SMP" with "Males" and "Females" when there are so many other personality traits in people. It's almost like materialist science fundamentalism prevails in RP circles. I.E. and E.G. "Biology and chromosomes drive everything you and everyone else does, regardless of whatever else you imagine." Isn't that a lot of the "Red Pill" that someone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Are all these groups connected to particular personality types?Does TRP attract certain types of people based on personality fit? It doesn't matter so much, and any type theory is just a huge ball of wax. As I said, at the very least the examples I gave of human personalities (someone who wants a lot of time by herself, and someone who sees themselves primarily as 'givers') do exist in the world. That's all this hinges upon. Well, are there people who are at kind of moral-authoritarian, biology trumps all mindset and RP just "works" with their entire worldv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Are all these groups connected to particular personality types?"Red Pill" implies Morpheus giving Neo the choice to go about in his fairyland of comforting lies or to accept the Truth. At least some of the Truth the Red Pill seems to reveal is that biology is a trump card. This is implicit in most PUA and RP material I've ever seen (Juggler Method being an exception, in the world of PUA). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Are all these groups connected to particular personality types?FINE, Heartiste's claims don't apply to ISTJ women, just as an example, and would likely drive one away quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 02:27 AM |
| 2 | Should we decrease the population by killing off the majority of third worlders?I've spent enough time in South India to concur. You'll find Auto drivers who work a few hours and then knock off because they made enough money to get through the day and save some... Cost of living there is just SO LOW that it's possible to live without working all that much. Of course, yeah, there's plenty of crazy abject poverty. But the middle class of India is something like the entire population of America.... and it's not too hard of a place to live for those folks. I've met some laid ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 01:46 AM |
| 1 | Should we decrease the population by killing off the majority of third worlders?Whoa.....! One of the sociological constants throughout pretty much all cultures everywhere is if education increases, birth rate declines. All you have to do is spread education and birth rates go down. No need to go all Dalak on them and start shooting plasma guns and smallpox into the crowded movie theaters. Fucking Georgia Guidestones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Test: Which of these women do you find more attractive (guys only pls)Not really my type, they all kind of look same-ish in that way. (I prefer at least a bit of androgyny. Would have chosen pictures of Joan Jett anywhere from like 18-40, or Charlize Theron in Mad Max). From those pictures, Beyonce and Scarlet J are the most obviously alluring. I'd never looked at a picture of Beyonce before, and I know I just find Scarlett really pretty sometimes in films. But that's not the only factor in choosing someone to spend time with. Several of them looked really NICE to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 01:35 AM |
| 7 | QForWomen: Why did you break up with your ex-partnerYeah man, you get the classic "arguing while nude" and it's like, shit is going down and you're incompatible and it isn't working but you're still both totally hot for each other. It's sort of confusing and degrading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 01:02 AM |
| 3 | QForWomen: Why did you break up with your ex-partnerNarcissists fool a lot of good people! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/17 12:56 AM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.Do you think girls and boys are socialized differently? Essentially I'm saying that both have all kinds of neurosis, but due to social factors it plays out differently in both of them. Yes, both are disrespectful of their parents. It plays out in different ways. I would think more teenage boys would be prone to physically active/violent tantrums and outbursts, for example. How many 15 year old girls punch holes in the drywall? Some no doubt (I've seen it, in fact), but compare it to the number o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 09:04 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.It sucks that Ayn Rand is such a package deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 08:40 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.I get that. You know the old joke, "If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it, is the man still wrong?" I'm kind of pulling from that. I like Ayn Rand's idea of a "package deal" where words tended to get loaded with so much stuff that no one really knows what they mean anymore. In order to avoid that, I tried to use a term that wasn't already loaded. If I say, "Woman being obedient or submissive" or even "woman looking up to" a man it gets confusing, in a different way, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Valuable men select women, women select shitty men"Easy test, who compromises more often? They're lower in power and need the other more, that's what their behavior reflects." That's so manipulable it's not even related to whatever is meant by one's "value," unless you mean it in the most subjective and in-the-moment way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 06:16 PM |
| 1 | There are no high or low value women. There are just women.Mate, Baby Momma/Daddy, and Fuck Buddy selection is largely like Facebook. People friend and post and agree with stuff that they think the type of person they imagine themselves to be would friend and post and agree with. In other words, everyone has an identity, and they mediate their persona through that. Same with who they want to fuck. "Social Value" is imagined by how well one performs all this in front of an audience, based on who the audience perceives themselves to be in relation to the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 06:09 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.The anger part of it and all the blame. There are no ribbons to pin on anyone and no one to hang for the state of society. If 75%-80% of observable couples fall into the "bitch/bitch appeaser" category, it's as much the fault of the insecure men as it is the insecure women. Placing fault on "post modernism" and "degenerate society" (Like I have often seen Roosh going on about, for example), is just armoring your wounds. As I said above, mercantilism is dead, the geniuses in silicon valley are pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 03:39 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.The reasons the neg works: 1) You're now in rapport. 2) You're running her pattern, she doesn't have to. She can actually relax a little. 3) You're no longer being symbiotic to her neuroses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 03:23 PM |
| 2 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.No probbers: 1) Men and women are both using neurotic patterns in a symbiotic relationship due to their social insecurities. 2) No one is really happy with the situation. It turns both men and women into insufferable cunts for both parties. Neither has a real sense of independent self. 3) The male symbiotic counterpart to the "bitch shield/eyeroll/negging/"If a Tree Falls in the Woods and no one is there to hear it, is the man still wrong?"" female is "I want to make sure I am okay, and you are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 03:21 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.Sounds like something an ENFP, maybe an enneagram 2 would say. (J/K) You should go try some of the xNFP forums if you really want to see some drek, LOL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 03:12 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.Well, this is why I try to take out the content. I think that amounts to exactly the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 03:10 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.It depends on the person you're dealing with. As I said, East Asian women are socialized differently and more typically run the program similar to Western men. "I exist and you also exist and I want to balance the two and honor both." So, I went and got a girl with whom shit tests don't exist (Taiwanese, not from Taipei). When I was doing PUA in the USA in my late 20s and early 30s, I removed all the content, WHAT SPECIFICALLY a girl might be rolling her eyes about (or whatever equivalent commun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 03:07 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.Many men also fall into the trap of taking the attitude at face value, rather than recognize it as a play for attention and control - sometimes bitchy, sometimes playful. This is correct. I was an English teacher for ten years (yeah, make the joke, LOL), and I have actually observed the bitchiest, eye-rollingest 16 year old is normally the most insecure and freaked out about her looks/social power/who likes her. Add ten years or twenty, and it's basically the same. You ever hear the expression, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 02:58 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.Yeah, but you're just talking about TRPs psychological defenses and the story they tell long after a long train of emotional reaction has already played out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 02:48 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.This WILL read as EXTREMELY FEMININE to ANYONE, because it's a behavior women are so deeply socialized to do in US culture. Actually, nope. Teenage boys do it too. On the aggregate, this reads as feminine. If you're male, just go and TRY IT instead of looking for counterexamples. Now, I grant that for younger generations, this could also be changing. The whole way I wrote this was an attempt to prevent abstraction and stay grounded in actual occurance. That's not easy to do when making a complex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/17 02:47 PM |
| 1 | The truth underlying TRP: Looking at process versus content, a lot of the nonsense in TRP could surely be dropped.How happy would a (straight) man be with a woman who always makes him RIGHT? That's actually all the TRP fantasize about. How happy would a (straight) woman be with a man who puts all his attention directly on HER instead of trying to spread the energy around due to fear? That's a whole lot of female fantasy stories. TRP is a step away from the symbiotic relationship style that leaves both parties feeling shafted. -- a WARPED STEP, but without the wounded anger, it's actually the right step. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/17 03:09 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Is the Red Pill really that bad?I get that, but if the moral thing isn't as functional, then it's also deeply flawed. I just started a thread about process versus content in response to what you said, because I think it's pretty much crux. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/17 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Is the Red Pill really that bad?Maybe the strongest point in what you're saying is that Red Pill men have had experiences which confirm to them, "This way WORKS. I treat women like children and they are apparently happy in the relationship, I have more girlfriends, and they treat me more nicely. I try to be more 'horizontal' and they really do read it as 'beta' and fire me." I think that's a legit thing for anti-red-pill to address: Do you just assume every red pill guy is lying or delusional on the level of their simply sayin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/17 02:17 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.I'm saying all this talk about categories of "men" and "women" isn't something actionable by anyone. It's basically as abstract as talking about history. Your ex was apparently an asshat. That's actionable. You left, smart choice. He has to take responsibility for himself, that's his choice. He cannot take responsibility for "men" -- such a thing doesn't exist. ALL HE COULD POSSIBLY DO is take responsibility for himself. Should he feel responsible for the crimes of another man? I'm sure for all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/17 02:08 AM |
| 4 | How would you react if your child came out as transgender?I knew I was trans when I was 4. I mentioned it several times through childhood. When I tried really hard to get help, around 11 or 12 and again at 15 and 17. It was the early and mid nineties. They didn't do things in Georgia the way a kid would get treated now. I'm almost 40, and transition is off the table for me for a lot of reasons. I'm a very happy person (I know that this will be hard for people to get, and that's fine, but suicidal thoughts and genuine happiness exist in frames beyond sm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/17 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Women who say that they hate men because they're more likely to commit crime use the exact same logic as to why neo-nazis hate black people. The difference is that hating men is seen as acceptable.Yeah, look up domestic violence in lesbian relationships. It tends to be brutal and there's a good amount of it. It was "not publishable" until a lesbian published on it (because what's reported by social sciences is as much politics as science). It came out during my years studying for my sociology degree. I think the book was called "Betrayed" or "Betrayal" or something like that. Women can and are often quite violent given someone physically equal or weaker to them. The majority of abuse of c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 03:23 PM |
| 2 | What Women Mean By "Looks Don't Matter"After a year together, my experience is everyone basically looks the same. I've never dated or lived with someone who was like a 2 or a 3. But I've been with 5s through 9s. Maybe one say, 4, but she was cool and rich and taught yoga took me to Europe and basically I just liked her.... After living with anyone for a year, or dating for 2 or 3 years, I think 5=6=7=8=9=10=someone whose become part of your life. Presumably you like that person. In that sense, LOOKS DON'T MATTER at all. I don't think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 02:55 AM |
| 2 | CMV: As more men become incel due to the massively disproportionate SMP getting worse, more Elliot Rodger type shootings will continue to happen...Not to mention psychology as a 'discipline' cannot fucking study anything worth a sack of beans, so if someone could cite peer reviewed studies it would be meaningless. evidence: wikipedia search "reproducibility crisis" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 01:12 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.Nobody is "men" and nobody is "women." If someone could be "men" then they could take responsibility for something really huge, beyond one person's life. And if someone could be "women" then someone else could make amends for thousands of years. Someone called "men" could apologize on his knees and make reparations and billions of injustices from Hypatia to Ghandi's abused wife could be repaired. And then after that was made right, "women" could also apologize to "men" for whatever their part wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 01:06 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The best thing women can do now is bow out gracefully by refusing to procreate and letting men do whatever they want after we’re gone.Best cure is probably Ayahuasca. I think it could help TRP-tards, Libtards, Contards, Feminazis, nazis, Incels, Cucks, Asshats, Blackpilltards, religious fanatics, physicalism-materialists, woo-tards, and stuck-straights. But the lightbulb probably does still need to want to change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/17 12:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.As I was just saying in another thread, men don't see where women are coming from, and thus often feel "women have all the power." I'm sorry to here that your ex became a shithead after reading about red pill. That movie is a documentary made by a progressive feminist woman. It's far from perfect, but it's not bad. I'm also aware there is a lot of stupid stuff people are out there saying. A lot of men are feeling powerless. What's the reaction people typically have to feeling powerless? Well, I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 10:20 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The best thing women can do now is bow out gracefully by refusing to procreate and letting men do whatever they want after we’re gone.This is part of why I say bisexual men are the true alphas. You wouldn't feel ANY of this if you YOURSELF appreciated the beauty of males. I mean, dear god, a man being around you with his full affection and attention is like the heart of the sun pointed directly at you. It's Delicious and AMAZING. Tingles. LOL! After a few experiences of that in college, "PUA" wih women got pretty easy and I could not only recognize WHEN I was playing like that with women, I could feel their own balanced natura… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 10:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.Sure, "take one for the team" is a stupid idea. I've never heard of anyone arguing for that. All I'm saying is as long as you approach this as a fight against men, you will have a fight. With "men." And that won't go anywhere. And in ways that few will notice, those fighting against men will likely be perpetuating the same problems.... Back to what this whole discussion started with, looking at ones own shadows and laughing heartily at one's own deeply held beliefs is actually a step closer to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 09:48 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.Also, IF you are correct and men are bitter as you are saying, for the reasons you give: "[T]hey've been in advantage for a millenia, sexually, politically, socially. Now that womyn will not take crap anymore," then that is also a fear reaction. Fear of losing something they have or had. Those men have a lot in common with the feminists who you say are afraid of having something hard won taken away from them. You have essentially described both men and women as being afraid of having social powe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 04:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.You bring up one thing I've wondered sometimes. Does the fact that someone has been advantaged or disadvantaged for millenia mean much to the individual in the here and now? I mean, if someone is in a shitty situation, they aren't going to care about ancient history. Likewise, if someone is in a situation of power and ease, they aren't going to be affected one way or another by lives of people long dead are they? I mean, do you understand what I mean? Neither you nor I are experiencing history a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 03:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.I can respect that. I haven't been around long, either. It's quite possible that I was HYPER generous in reading "Purge week" as being about playful self deprecation and looking at one's own shadows. And yeah, sometimes people here just say stupid nonsense..... but then again, isn't that the nature of the whole internet? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 03:13 PM |
| 1 | The purge is fantastic if you wish to know which posters are worthlessI'm the only person who thought purge week was about insightful self deprecation then? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 02:06 PM |
| 3 | indian incels, can you just admit that you consider yourself celibate because you cant date 5'8" blonde white shiksa hb9 goddesses, not because you couldnt get an indian girl that you just dont wantMy experiences on pilgrimages in South India, as an American, told me that due to cultural separation, men and women re forced into really different worlds and don't learn to interact much. South Indian men thus don't know how to LOOK at a woman. . . The culture creates a lot of problems, but decent looking college men looking at women the way an eleven year old boy looks at women is definitely one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/17 01:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.This is similar to how, for Christians, everything proves we all need Jesus. When you wear green glasses, everyone will be in the emerald city. I was going to say, "Come on, this is the yearly purge, you can do better than that" but I note from your name that you're probably being serious. The thing about this forum that gets respect from me is this: The purge here is clearly about 95% people laughing about THEMSELVES. If you cannot mock your own feminism HARD and laugh heartily about it, then i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 01:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If all women were blind, incels still wouldn't get laid.Exactly, otherwise how would the lesbians and feminists find each other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Why TBP is full of idiots (aka. how to get banned during The Purge)liar, narcotics got mentioned several times in the comments. "Oh, I'm such an awesome shitlord, I don't deign to 'read' 'posts.' I just tell people I didn't have time to read it and insult the incel because he had seven whole minutes in his life of definitely NOT FUCKIN' available to write a few paragraphs." Always a clear indicator of who the real snowflake attention princesses are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Q 4 girls: how do i let my captain know he is my captain"Slutty" is such a social construction. Don't worry, anything labeled in his mind as "cheerleader" will be simultaneously slutty and innocent. I think in countries like Australia where imaginary child porn is banned, you can still probably dress up as a cheerleader and act the part of a slutty little innocent perfect slut who hasn't hit the "peri-wall" of 17 yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 03:53 AM |
| 1 | Advice Needed: Overcoming Shit TestsGo your own way, man. Let that pussy take care of itself. Seriously, don't give it any attention or validation and you'll see it cooing and basically begging you to give it sustenance. Otherwise, you'll be cucksauce, just taking care of that pussy while it gets preggo by some tomcat with gold teeth and drivin' a fourth hand benz... probably some lezbo SJW prosecutor will make you pay child support. You're at the fuckin' fork in the road. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/17 03:40 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Smoothness vs. something being "off," awkwardness, "red flags."I think I can contribute to answering number 5. Sometimes it takes particular experiences. I think the 250 approaches or 10,000 hour rule is more about setting yourself up to have some insights. Because a lot of those 250 would probably not include much improvement, and if you could have the 10 experiences that led to improvement, then it might work out a lot faster (could be the difference between a "natural" and a "not natural.") Here were a couple of mine: 1) When I was teaching English, ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/17 04:29 PM |
| 11 | Q4All: Masculine women vs. feminine menBisexual men are often very powerful. Look at everyone from Alexander the Great on up to all the rock stars from Jagger and Zep to the Crue. A man with certain feminine characteristics reads as the most powerful walking atomic bomb of sex in the room. He's going to out alpha a Mel Gibson or Tim Allen, "man without a feminine thing in his existence" any day of the week. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/17 04:09 PM |
| 2 | Different models of dominance and submission: have you seen these? Do you see dominance this way?I was an English teacher for ten years and I lived by the same two principles in my classroom. We're talking about dominance and submission. It's not that I want to see someone submitting to anyone. But sometimes something inside someone really wants it and needs it. I've done it in BDSM, with ropes and riding crops and everything as well. My slave eventually grew out of needing it, so the medicine was what she needed. Maybe I needed it, too, and I'm thankful for the ones who taught me because p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/17 06:01 AM |
| 1 | Different models of dominance and submission: have you seen these? Do you see dominance this way?I knew a guy. Someone at BBC made a documentary about him, which wasn't aired because it was "too controversial" or some nonsense. If you pay attention to the straight cuts and what actually happens, it's a good show because they really make reality different to how it is on that movie. Also, the White Knight narrator is a conniving ass. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ57HoTqNU4) He taught dominance in a way I always adhere to. These are the rules: You make the slave do what it needs, not wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/17 03:20 AM |
| 1 | Can we discuss the gender inequality of suicide?"Get attention" is inaccurate -- suicidal gestures activate social responses and resources that might be more valuable to one gender in society over another. The most lethal methods recommended by people who are very serious about this kind of thing generally leave unscathed corpses in all cases. And this information is the simplest of google searches away for anyone of any chromosomal configuration The difference is whether men see a suicidal gesture as being useful to them versus women. I thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/17 02:01 AM |
| 1 | Can we discuss the gender inequality of suicide?Worth noting is that psychology in general has a "reproducibility crisis" on their science side. If a man were to "seek" "help," who should he go to? All society offers is an arguably intellectually unsound and failing system built more on professional societies and historical legal precedents than science with a lowercase "s." If we're saying men approach things differently than women, I think men might prefer something more solid than an almost entirely socially constructed Western Entity. Als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/17 01:51 AM |
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