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DiscussionAaren_Augustine/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 11:00 AM
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Suspended for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 04:12 PM
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Lets take an average couple with a house and one or two kids. How easy do you think it is to leave such a life? How costly will the divorce be? I'm sure sex is in the top 5 reasons for divorce, right along with finances. Wonder why. This is why many men aren't even entertaining marriage to begin with. Rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:44 AM
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Every single relationship ive been in has had plenty of sex. You don't prove the majority. tf are they still in that horrible relationship? Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 12:15 AM
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you’ll have to put in more effort/“pay more” Not if men find an easier way to trick women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 11:34 PM
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If men could get all the sex they wanted from their GFs and Wives, none of this would even be a thing. So on paper, I agree. In practice it doesn't work very well. And the only response is a dismissive "well pick a better partner". So then I answer the same way as I just did...If it worked that way...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 10:11 PM
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Women have made it this way, so it's only fair that nice-men start demanding their free drinks and food. My concern is that this behavior is what topples Rome, so to speak. But for men, it's fine. I usually put it like this - The House doesn't want card counters. Specifically because its bad for business.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:29 PM
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Its dangerous economics. Imagine that it gets out at a trendy restaurant that some patrons get drinks and food for free when you're paying 10 bucks a beer and 30 bucks a plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:08 PM
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Bad boys get quadruple the return at half the potential cost. Nice guys get half the return and quadruple the price. More specifically women WILL put a price for beta bux every time. Cost may be zero for Alpha fux. These posts are really about how some women just can't put themselves in men's shoes. Its literally impossible for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:02 PM
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Sure, but it doesn't change the negative attitude; which is the main problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:11 PM
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Lol, yeah acting like she's doing you a favor so isn't going to put much work into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:10 PM
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Or they've been with 9s and can't stand their shit. Which is why Tomi Lauren is saying men are trash. If she was worthy, she'd be married. But she's not because she attracts spineless men and can't keep Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:08 PM
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Which is the more cooperative woman? The 6.5? Then her. She's built for long term relationships. The 9 sounds god awful outside of the bedroom. Desperate men choose the 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 08:05 PM
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No weirdo guy would ask because women wouldn't show up. But she'll ask for help without returning it. Thank you for asking why men shouldn't have one sided friendships with women that won't show up Thanks for proving men shouldn't ask women to be equal. They aren't. Because they won't show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:34 AM
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It's not that deep. When you misunderstand, at a fundamental level, the opposite sex, you incorrectly say "It's not that deep."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:30 AM
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Well, congratulations. You've won the "most disingenuous argument answer of PPD since SipsSparklingWater". Men don't ask because women don't show up. And when they do, they do so because of THEIR MEN. I'm continually annoyed at how RP is so systematically correct. Sarcastically, thanks for proving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:20 AM
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Awesome! Given a hundred women, how many women would help men move?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 04:02 AM
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Have you helped men change the oil, move apartments, or otherwise do man shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 03:54 AM
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Here's the thing. How many guy friends did you help move? Did you help change their oil in their vehicles? Did you wing man them at the bar? Did you help them co-op the last modern warfare game or go shoot literal guns at the range? Women will "women" with men. Women rarely "men" with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 03:52 AM
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If so, how? Its simple for men. Pass the shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 05:02 AM
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I had a coworker that thought the same thing. She got knocked up because she wanted a kid. That kid and that woman were a fucking mess. Not just my opinion. It was clearly a mess. I watched her daughter as a whole bunch of my wife's female coworkers went to Poland to buy pottery. That poor little girl was just starving for stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 03:09 AM
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Agreed. But is it a win or a lose? The stats say its a lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 03:09 AM
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Is simple. Women, without securing actual commitment in the form of marriage, lets a man shoot up her club. Let that sink in. Women, who "don't have a stable dating pool of men" allowed a man they wouldn't marry pass on his genetic lineage for free. We can all say marriage is outdated and corporate-lingo speak like "threshold level of lack of utility". What that says is that man isn't worth marrying but he is able to eat free at her establishment. So, I disagree with the OP. Because Lie is basic…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 02:08 AM
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If desire means sexual attraction- 666 baby. Devil's over six feet tall, earns over six figures and is more that six inches long. AFBB in one man. You can ask women all day long what they want on paper. But who do they fuck for free? Men look for sexy, cooperative and pleasant women. In and outside of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 05:01 AM
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This is the stream of consciousness from a woman that's basically describing AF and BB. why do people pretend like one is more important than the other? Because women prioritize and give sex freely to men who they find sexually attractive. They don't require commitment from these men. which is that people are capable of developing feelings/"love"/attraction for just about anyone Not sexual attraction. They can develop love for a beta bux. But don't necessarily find BB sexually arousing. Cold app…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:45 AM
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Its the reality of men no matter what you believe. And its worse because that line of work exponentially increases the risk of abuse, violence and STDs. IN ADDITION to being excluded from marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 04:36 AM
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Oak...do you have a daughter? This is a nice mental exercise, but the reality is...much more horrifying. I mean, its so catastrophic that you'd start a "savings fund" in a theoretical example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 04:21 AM
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The women that go into that field are fundamentally broken. I get men want to say all women would consider it. They might, but the existence of men that won't have fuck all to do with those kinds of women says only broke bitches consider that kind of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 04:07 AM
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An understatement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 02:33 AM
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I got two sons and a daughter. So while that might be the case, I'd be pretty adamant that its not okay. I wouldn't disown her...look I'm not in the business of controlling my children or being fully vested on who, or what goes into her body...but god damn, that's an extremely poor choice for her future. Nobody says, "I relieved I was a sex worker. It's brought so much joy and positivity in my life." At most you got a whole lot of mental illness and your another porn girl complaining that no man…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 02:29 AM
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facepalm
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:37 AM
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Odd answers for a dude. So are you married or is this all hypothetical conjecture about what you think marriage is and should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:27 AM
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In the very unlikely case that was true That's a weird way to say "average". he can just get divorced and almost achieve the hypothetical scenario Are you girls really this clueless about what men go through in divorce? it's women that are doing the divorcing. Its what the statistics are saying, regardless of how you feel about it. which was a wife A lot of women want to be married but they don't want to BE wives. I have never met or even heard of someone who got married because he thought it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 01:04 AM
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Why would a guy get married if he wants casual sex? Because the husband isn't having much sex to begin with. He incorrectly thought marriage would achieve his sex goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/21 12:44 AM
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I simply don't believe it. And when you start to understand the nature of men and women, it becomes less realistic that women can just learn to be single. Sexual revolution happened in the 60s. So what, 50 plus years ago? Its absolute bullshit to think its now "propaganda" when women had to literally liberate themselves from underneath men's collective bootheel. WOMEN fantasize about their wedding. Women fantasize marriage and children and happily ever after. Now, are you ever going marry if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 03:59 AM
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You are now suggesting women cannot become smarter with an education. Funny how easily women can exit the cult since divorce is usually initiated by women. Seems very exit friendly for a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:22 AM
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Irrelevant? Men that are sexually attractive get married are still going to be sexually attractive. Its number one on your list. Hardly irrelevant. Or do you think the 70 lbs over weight balding man with a bad combover is getting all the quality and quantity of sex he wants from his wife? Can you not understand what type of man is in each of your categories? Why the hell do you think you're asking for a prenup and paternity test? Is there something about you that confirms you won't be in the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 12:19 AM
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Because the House doesn't take kindly to card counters. I've said it for years. Women are the driving force of marriage. And it only lowers when government policies replace what marriage used to provide. They still NEED those things because they are the ones that give birth to children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:59 PM
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Strong and independent women with BS, MS and PHDs still want to get married. This seems to suggest that educated women are still easily duped, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:59 PM
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Then why are women marrying at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:45 PM
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Also, not everything is about sex. Remove sex. Like from marriage, tell men that when they marry there will be no sex. Guess how many takers you'd get? Sex is the base standard, it gets women in the door. Its absence gets them shown the door. Isn't it you who said men can love unconditionally? That wasn't me. No one loves unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:35 PM
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That really doesn't justify marriage to men. They are amenities on things that are extremely unlikely to happen until late in life. And what has marriage evolved into?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:31 PM
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No, because mods will ding you for it if its in anyway unflattering. This is a very important thing to discuss but we aren't able to due to reddit's more liberal rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:07 PM
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I believe this is a 'statistic' fds types use. Because it suggests that women can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 11:06 PM
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Men that need to get married to get laid shouldn't be marrying. Men that get laid without marriage don't need to get married to get laid. The only reason to gamble with something like marriage is because you want kids and you want them to give them the best chance of being well adjusted adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:57 PM
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Okay, lets just boil down men's wants - A sexually available wife that's pleasant, loyal and responsible. Do you think feminism is more likely to create ladies or masculine women? Which one is more able to be sexually available, pleasant and responsible? Further more, while I know what I get out of marriage, its no god damn walk in the park and can be some real hard work. Especially with children. They may live longer, very debatable because men have been told to suck it up buttercup, who hurt y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 10:37 PM
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Like I said, that doesn't work out in the long term. Which is why a lot of married women can easily answer this question and avoid communication with past exs that don't fit into your two categories. And why I hardly hear those wives call their husbands controlling and jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 08:10 PM
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Well, I just like using Sausage Smoker in a example. Either way, men need to see themselves as the prize, not another business partner...which is essentially what the OP is asking men to see in a high n-count women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:48 PM
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And did you agree? You see how this is going? You are clearly showing WHY men should avoid high n count women. You are just lucky she couldn't go after you for child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:38 PM
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And did you say "lets have a baby" or did she kind of unilaterally decided to keep the baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:35 PM
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Its disrespectful to the new boyfriend. Let me ask it this way. If both of them were married and she reached out to an ex and said that, would it give the husband warm fuzzy feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:32 PM
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Most men are more pragmatic and less afraid of being alone than that. You're explaining desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:29 PM
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I have 2 children with two different very attractive women and we all make it work and live happily. Were you married to the first woman? Did you agree before hand to have a child with her? And do you pay child support?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:27 PM
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I mean I know this is on TRP like once a month "what's the safest way to have kids" MarriedRedPill is the next option if men want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:21 PM
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They're upset because women expect beta buxes to just wife them up whenever these women get done fucking the guys they REALLY wanted. They're upset because these same women, upon turning a new leaf, will cut sex off with those life partners. Because they don't want to be seen as promiscuous anymore. AND she's probably had much better and isn't going to be turned on by said "life partner".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:19 PM
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It does men no good to completely disregard your life experience when their decision to have you in their life could be catastrophic. We should never hire someone that's not fit for the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:14 PM
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Lets say you run a Sausage Smoking restaurant chain. You're the CEO. And this person comes in who's experience is some management but mostly associate level cooking experience. Now this person is wanting to be YOUR CFO. Is that a wise decision for your Sausage Smoking business?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:05 PM
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Okay, so a red flag doesn't really have to have a specific problem. I don't have to look up a code in a manual to realize its a red flag. I understand it’s frustrating to feel left out but it’s not fair to be upset with women for the imbalance in the dating world. Its entirely fair. Men can be frustrated at women. If the roles were reversed and all of a sudden you could have casual sex (that maybe you thought was dating and they thought was hooking up )with 10s while you searched for your life p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 07:02 PM
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Most success is due to work ethic. Your want to succeed is a reflection of you as a person. In your relationships and your career. And your mindset is why a lot of women do great in a corporate structure and go home to cats. They work even when they don't feel like it and they don't relationship when they don't feel like it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:49 PM
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I see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:34 PM
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I don't like going to work or working out sometimes. Even due to stress. But we do it because giving up and avoiding your life is what adults don't do. I'm glad you got support... what happens when that continues to happen over and over again?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:33 PM
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Why consequences? I just gave my reason, so I'm off the hook, by your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:28 PM
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If women can't handle it, then they shouldn't marry. They aren't fit for the job. Plain and simple. We all manage to go to work and keep a clean house, but when it comes to a relationship their staring down the barrel? Women are adults right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:25 PM
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I don't feel like going to work today. What do you think my boss will do and say?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 06:22 PM
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Sure entirely truthful once and a while. In the context if deadbedrooms, is it appropriate?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:23 PM
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Example- I had a long day so I'm not going to work out. I know that I should to have a healthy life, but I don't feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:20 PM
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First off, why do you do this under CMV? It's clear your mind is made up. What you clearly don't understand is a lot of men feel a connection with their SO through sex. The problem is some women don't want to hear it's the women's fault. That she's using her lack of energy, messy state of the house or bad day at work to not have sex with her spouse. So combine a complete lack of understanding with believe all women and men ain't shit and you get this post. Two fundamental failures in basic relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 02:50 PM
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Men will say women are and women will say men are. Confused men and women want the opposite sex to act like their gender. Women in particular want a man to both be a dude and a chick but wonder why men won't stick around because she's spent years being a masculine girl who's only quality to men is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 11:47 PM
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It already has. Kevin Samuels. Like I've been saying for years. TRP will be picked last for kickball. The rest will have a purple slant that's far more easy to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/21 11:29 PM
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Older women are wiser and know how to play the game. Yeaaah. Many of them aren't wiser because that would entail they understood men. Which is statistically NOT probable. Go ahead, ask older women what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 04:59 AM
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You observe a very short timeline on a very new experiment. guys can earn less/have more artsy careers, but they need to make it up in other ways And when they don't "Trent Reznor Lite" and never go anywhere other than to be a chaotic mess, women divorce them for not offering the traditional stability of men. C'mon. When the artsy career doesn't pan out, dump. And you know that. You did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:48 AM
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As more women earn more, I really do think that the pressure for men to be traditionally masculine is going to lessen Perhaps. And that's a lot of women that sit in the "man seat". So more and more women are going to be very single. Men don't want to sit in the "girl seat". The reason TRP exists is because women crush men for not being "traditionally masculine". The resulting response is going to be to avoid women. Because women ruin men that try to act non-traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 03:34 AM
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It’s going to take a few more generations before we really see what is hardwired and what is socialized I think that's just what the majority of men want. Its not legacy, its just not what women want to be. Look how much "traditional" male roles are still required by most women. None of this is going away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 12:45 AM
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Plenty of people will admit it. Its usually the college or early 20's crowd that want to say it doesn't exist. And frankly, they just don't have enough life experience or didn't listen to it when it was flogging them over the head. Because its really hard not to easily see how accurate TRP is. Even if they don't know the "why".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 12:43 AM
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Men can learn women but women are UNWILLING to understand men You're probably right. But the ubiquity of women's unwillingness makes women look even worse than what you've described.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 11:51 PM
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Basically, TRP is teaching men to count cards and the House don't take kindly to that fact. Men can learn women but women seem incapable of understanding men. Well, Atlas gets it and often says women shouldn't...and I'd agree. Personally, I'm purple because I accept the reality that TRP has observed about women and I'm only going to use that in "self-defense" rather than take advantage of it. Aka moralizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 11:37 PM
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When it comes to the nature of men, they find compliant women attractive and want to usually keep those women around. Someone that has to be convinced to leave their apartment is not compliant. Sounds like my vetting system would correctly vet you out as a bad fit. If your goal was to be single most of your adult life, then yes. When you say men are generally not fun or nice or interesting to be around, you vet out nearly all men. And you vet them out because you make dating you work. And no won…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 06:42 PM
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What about his grilling skills? Credit score? How long his past relationships lasted and how they ended. History of cheating? His relationship with his mother? What life philosophy does he have? The problem with naming something very specific and then being very general tends to give men the impression women don't have a clue about what is a good litmus test for a man's character or personality .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:53 PM
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What's the best or a better litmus test then if sex is a "really good test"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:33 PM
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Do you have to have literal experience when women clearly feel fuck boys are good in bed and have terrible character?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:30 PM
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Ever consider women will act poorly even if their men never got lazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:25 PM
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Lol, nice dodge.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:18 PM
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Gree, your first paragraph is all about the guys...I don't think you have it figured out if you don't think what I've said is true or a good part of the picture. It's the reality of many men. I'll say it a million times, I think men's perspective is way beyond what most women can understand. And with women being the more empathetic sex, how can this be?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:15 PM
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So what about a fuck boy? Good in bed, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:10 PM
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Because it will give you a better understanding of men. No, hanging out with wives will get you a good look at the image they want to show you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:06 PM
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Lol. You missed it when British and Australian women call in. C'mon, that's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:04 PM
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You don't hang out with married men then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:52 PM
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Whatch any Kevin Samuels video on YouTube for a crystal clear image.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:27 PM
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I'd also add a lot of women are in a relationship where they think they can do better, so they require far more from their man and only return breadcrumbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 10:23 PM
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What should be and what actually is are two different things. And they aren't scared over nothing. People find FDS and TRP because people treated them poorly and these people essentially allowed it in their optimism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 06:41 PM
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Okay, c'mon. If you are still finding yourself being lied to and still being tricked you're failing to understand actual empowerment and adulthood because you're too invested in being NOT responsible for your own live. Victims my ass. Unless its rape and women start going to the police, this has nothing to do with being an actual victim. That's just buyers remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:52 PM
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If people weren't thinking about swindling others, maybe they would understand that people are being genuine for a reason. Look, I completely agree. Like we should have some sort of rules to courtship or something. Instead, we have a buyer beware market after the sexual revolution. And there's no rules to any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:45 PM
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They are being lied to, getting stringed along under false hope, etc. A failure to be assertive and protect their boundaries by walking away. That is personal accountability. Why is it women’s fault for being given false hope and lied to while it’s not the men’s fault for being the one to do it? Because a metric shit ton of women never make it their fault, which is precisely why they are so easily tricked.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:43 PM
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It's not about "giving out easy affection." It's that they're being genuine and expecting other people to be the same. Men see it as easy affection and a woman that's easily swindled.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:35 PM
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Wow. I rarely hear this from women. Has this happened multiple times? or just once?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:32 PM
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And my point is they are over correcting and it looks like they are blaming men rather than looking at taking ownership for their poor choices. That's why its foolish to call this awareness. They are blaming men. Its deflection and nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:23 PM
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Okay. Well women are falling for that lie and I know they don't like it either. But that's the deal in a sex positive culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:21 PM
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I'm assuming most of these women are adults and have the adult tendency to state and expect what they want before giving up what men want. Are adult women so easily tricked?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:04 PM
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Why are women giving out easy affection and sex then?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:54 PM
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Absolutely. All they have to do is ask one question. What do the men that you want, want in YOU? And when you explain what that is, they say they won't be a doormat. Which is fine. Cats need a home too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:42 PM
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Awesome. I hope in the future there are more women like you. Jim Butcher is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:26 PM
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I sat down and went "hey, Papa Nurgle or the Imperium of Man" are fucking awesome so let me spend 2k on table top mats and terrain and the associated army I like because its fucking awesome playing "Grim Dark Chess" with 30 die.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 04:25 PM
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They aren't rare. They just had a man that walked them into a hobby like Warhammer 40k or some other high geek hobby. Hot women didn't sit down and go "hey, Papa Nurgle or the Imperium of Man" are fucking awesome so let me spend 2k on table top mats and terrain and the associated army I like because its fucking awesome playing "Grim Dark Chess" with 30 die. That's not how women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:27 AM
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Discourage?! Lol. No. Men like women that follow them down the path of geekdom. But talking about the theatrical release of Aliens as apposed to the directors cut of Aliens doesn't net women better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:16 AM
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Yep, it's a reflection of who they are as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/21 03:49 PM
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To be fair, it is a sound strategy to net a beta bux...that should have been employed years before. The problem is, they are then asking 20 year old prices when they are 30 year old models. Which is fine if you bring something to the table men actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 07:59 PM
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Okay, so this is kind of weird to say. We don't have women with functional genitals located on their knee. You don't have women with something other than estrogen running through their veins. No 3rd breast like Total Recall. These are all shared traits. Etc, etc. AWALT. Individual variations are well within what we'd expect. They all go under the AWALT umbrella. Obviously things like hair color and personality and size and weight will fluctuate. Personality will be different. Preferences will ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 04:07 AM
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The very idea of a bunch of humans scattered and isolated from one another for centuries evolving to have the exact same preferences is contrary to evolutionary biology in and of itself. Evolution of...centuries. You can't be serious. That's about a half a second to evolution. Dicks are dicks, there's a difference between estrogen and testosterone, we got nipples for the most part. Oh, and we can blow air out our throat and move our mouth in such a way we can communicate. That ALL still happens …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 02:32 AM
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It’s shocking to me that this is at all controversial, or perceived as negative The house doesn't take kindly to card counters teaching others how to count cards. And how can a woman be special if AWALT?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:35 AM
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A lot of women will straight out just tell you trying to get you on their side. Like "look how awesome I am to guys, keep me around" type of conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:02 AM
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Yeah, I like calling my shoes that are falling apart gently used. Because you know, language is important around people who are easily offended. You are proving my point flapper.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:41 PM
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Yes, and I've always admitted men need to kill their ego and be able to hear the truth. This is why TRP is so offensive. So weak men can toughen up and understand they ain't shit thus need to get to work. Damn, see how easy that was to admit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:39 PM
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Can you imagine having to sit a woman down and tell her something she doesn't want to hear. You don't have to be rude about it. And you'll end up tip toeing around the subject because the moment she catches wind she's trying to make it your fault rather than take constructive criticism. None of that has to be about redpillers. You're literally doing what women do when they don't want to hear it. Case in point: You.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:29 PM
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I'm not. It simply is. Women get very defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:24 PM
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Yes, most women can't handle the truth so it isn't spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 11:21 PM
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It doesn't change the nature of women just because some women opt out of having children. Selection might change slightly but its still going to be women's interest to get a man that earns around or more than she does. And it still causes men problems when they aren't able to do that for the women that accept them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 09:49 PM
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Not sure that’s true. How, he's said as much. There are a few couples that are childless. THe majority of people have at least one kid. I've been all around the world. I could get UK. Its very expensive there. And crowded. London was wonderful. America is vast with lots of land and lots of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 08:34 PM
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Women with high body count enjoy sex so just because they’re in a relationship doesn’t mean I’m going to stop having sex. That sounds nice but it's not the reality. Men have to deal with how those women treat them and it ISN'T the positive thing you think it is. I know myself included have fairly high body count and have never cheated. Are you married? Do you understand the long game of keeping a relationship going through decades not months? What's your longest LTR? Why does a woman making a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:21 PM
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The inherent risk of a promiscuous woman far out ways the value a women like that brings to the "commitment table". It's clear a lot of them will cut off sex because their bored, because they ain't like that anymore and don't want to be seen as sluts. They can easily cheat. They will think they deserve better due to the men they fucked in their past and can easy divorce. You are basically asking men to hire a woman to be their CFO when these women clearly can't hold a job. The same for a man. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:06 PM
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Because she not gf or wife material. Even the virus free women. Friend zoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 04:04 PM
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My wife puts down her phone or pauses her show when I come into the bedroom and start talking. Don't matter if its literally about nothing. She usually pleasant and receptive. When she's not, she's quiet. If there's criticism is usually wrapped around comedy so it doesn't sound overly critical. She doesn't nag.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:14 AM
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Showing respect is how men know their women love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 01:52 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:44 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch/jnJmyw7hxZw Rihanna hit first btw. Well, if you believe Brown's response.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:37 PM
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I've never heard a woman say I make 100k so I'm okay with him making 35k. I've hear plenty of women say I make 50k and I expect him to make 150k.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:07 PM
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I think the odds are actually quite good if he makes good money and meets liberal women with high salaries Oh really? Because it won't matter how much he makes. He's not willing to provide. Its in the title of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:05 PM
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his is the problem with the purely evolutionary psychology argument. I don't give a shit about any of this and I do believe you're a dude. There are a lot of men who really aren't up for tons of strange sex including me. I'm not red but purple. 3 kids and one wife. You’re accounting 100% of female preferences to nature and leaving no room for individual preferences or choices. I'm sorry Aramuis but this is the base nature. You might have a few like this but they are going to be very far and few …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 10:02 PM
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There's a few ways to describe women. AF, BB. As a base understanding women want security and comfort like men want sex. There's wiggle room there of course, but generally, you turning them off after initially turning them on is you failing the beta bux side of women's nature. Its that simple. So you are asking women to get into a relationship with you all while telling them you aren't willing to have children or provide for them. Dude, this is like a woman looking for a husband while stating fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 09:45 PM
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Okay Smurf...lets shoot from the hip. He doesn't like ONS and he doesn't want to be a provider. What do you think is odds, percentage wise, of him landing a gf? Even in a liberal area? He's basically looking for a dude chick that'll let him be the pretty girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 09:32 PM
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Those aren't ambitious women. They are adult women. Ambitious is code for I've dated losers because that's my reflection and I want a competent adult to share my life with...event though I'm not valuable enough for that. Most men don't want to date a woman who's working 16 hours a day splitting her time between being a neurosurgeon and running her health clinic in impoverished areas. THAT'S ambitious. But then they realize that means I don’t want the traditional role of being the provider. Well …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 09:24 PM
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Good nights will happen eventually. You have to take a moment to understand how all your efforts have made a child that will do more than you. So stop looking at the clock. Start looking at where they want to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 04:29 AM
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Naw, two big paychecks are freedom. You can be as disciplined as you want but if you don't make money? LMFAO! Discipline makes way for two big paychecks. How did you not see this?!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/21 04:09 AM
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Lets say you get ass cancer. Its going to be a lot of chemo, vomiting, weight loss, slowed sex life, etc. You think your gf would support you through that? Now, perhaps a wife won't either. But along the way, seeing what my wife and I have been through, I'd be shocked if she cut and run. This is what I mean when I say life punches you two in the face. You're perspective is just being nice and safe in that associate level of responsibility and work. Nice, calm, and easy. How could it every create…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 10:37 PM
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but maybe your just an outlier Your idea of true love is the absence of challenge. I think challenge really tests people and it distills what kind of person you're with. You are removing obvious pitfalls and calling that true love for some reason. Unfortunately, an untested relationship can be nothing but convenience. What if life punches you two in the face?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 10:27 PM
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if you have children you arent free ... cause you have children who depend on you. We went to Europe and lived there for 4 years. Had our 3rd child on the German economy. Took our three kids everywhere. That is the result of hard work, dedication and two large paychecks. I think Jocko has a good understanding - Discipline is freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 10:15 PM
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Then you should be against these two people working so they never give attention to anyone but each other. I'm thinking too many anime comics on this one. The reality is adults have responsibilities. Its not a pure sense of love you are describing. You are describing an immature concept on what love should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 10:10 PM
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Yes, and that's not true love. Call it freedom all you want, but I'd call it a lack of dedication.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 10:05 PM
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And the moment it because inconvenient it's easily dropped. You are associating stability with "never been tested". And you really don't lose much in failure either. Having two parents work and raise kids is FAR more work. So what is true love if it isn't two parents dedicated to each other even during hard times that almost always come with raising children?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 10:00 PM
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I didn't get a full nights rest for 4 years. 2 years for my first son and two for my second son. Daughter was easy though, just pinched her between the couch and me. My wife did get a lot of sleep after that. However, it did take another year before I stopped walking up halfway to the door to check on the crying baby I heard, only to become lucid enough to know my kids were too old to sound like an infant. Very easy to neglect a relationship when you have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 09:46 PM
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Any "traditional" relationship with children is just a kind of comfortable business relationship that is conducted in order to raise a child. Uh, children are a lot of work and I would never associate it with comfort. They are an absolute test on both parents. I really think a childfree relationship is the comfortable business relationship. No real tests. No kids throwing up in the middle of the night. Worried they'll go full retard and walk out into the middle of the street. Making them do thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 09:38 PM
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Its funny. Many of those ideas when it comes to communicating were used in a book When I say no I feel guilty by an actual psychologist. Most of these guys need assertiveness training because they are striking out with women. You would agree that assertiveness is attractive to women, yes? Most of what you bring to the table is dismissal. What advice can you give a guy that NEEDS more help than your average man? You can't do anything with Confirmation bias or dunning kruger. How are they supposed…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 03:07 AM
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Because they're right. You don't even understand the curriculum. Its nearly immediately verifiable. It works very well. The observations are spot on. So there's nothing you get about it other than how TRP guys talk and act like idiots. I’ve read, listened to, and watched plenty. And how many women do you actually interact with? Its damn obvious. It literally explained to me nearly every interaction with women that historically had me scratching my head. I used to wonder how the hell I got away w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:55 AM
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You don't know shit about TRP. You people don't even do your due diligence on what you are criticizing. But thanks for the canned blue statement without even knowing some of the basic concepts...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 12:28 AM
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And I'm sure you've read the whole sidebar and confirmed it doesn't work, right? Anyone who doesn't like TRP usually doesn't like the tone. Because once you remove that, it's "well that's common sense". What's your opinion on shit tests and pressure flipping? Are you okay with amused mastery?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 09:58 PM
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And part of killing your ego is not asking questions of absolution so you can be right. Not only does it make someone look ridiculous, it also makes the user irrational to actual reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:53 PM
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Killing your ego enough you don't blame other's for you not getting it. Be the example you wish you had in other men. I like the blue pill analogy in the movie. Those part of the system can't help but be an extension of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:45 PM
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Completely agree. For a lot of men, it still won't matter. TRP is showing men how to count cards. However, the sheer amount of work for these guys is so insurmountable they'd rather blame others for guiding them incorrectly instead of rolling up their sleeves and getting to work. Its like a new atheist, angry about people "actively" lying to them. That shit goes away when you start seeing how difficult it is to recolor your brain. Reds shouldn't be angry at blue mindsets. Its extremely difficult…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 05:45 PM
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Very little comes down to luck. If you're Tomi Lauren and you think all men are trash, it's a reflection of you. If you are having an issue with women cheating on you, its fair to say you have a serious issue with boundaries. If all you see are man babies, you're a child yourself no matter how clean you keep your house. I can tell you the sheer amount of work to improve myself has bettered every aspect of my life. With my wife, parents, coworkers and friends. Even my pay. Luck is a rationalizati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 08:13 PM
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Which is why it's happening in another discussion on this post...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:43 AM
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When did I say you were wrong? You didn't have to, just appose what I said. C'mon, do you not see how that looks? More specifically, don't you see the mixed message it sends to men? ... because it's not improper, disrespectful or suspicious when you're single? Was it when you had a boyfriend? So all the responses you've made when it comes to men and women was in the context of NO COMMITMENT...right? Its vastly important to men to convey these things. They don't naturally put this together. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:40 AM
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I know. Its pretty damn critical to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:26 AM
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Because it would be improper, disrespectful and suspicious. You girls. So quick to tell men they're wrong. Then turn around and admit they should be careful. Like I said, this is just a natural transition For you. Why wasn't it natural to understand it was improper, disrespectful and suspicious when you were younger? Why did you have to get married in order to change your tune? We've just reached the stage of grown-up life where all our hangouts are group affairs. Wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:23 AM
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And yet... I haven't hung out with him one on one in years. As people start pairing up it's just a natural transition to hanging out as couples instead of hanging out alone. Hell I barely even hang out with my girl friends one on one anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:08 AM
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I haven't hung out with him one on one in years. Why do you think that is? Why don't you hang out with him without your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:07 AM
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and especially once we have kids I've got three. Marriage changes a lot the longer we are married. Kids change a lot the moment they exist. There's a reason as we get older it get a little more obvious. Iceberg right ahead!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 04:03 AM
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That's awesome. How many women do you know that have gone out of their way for men like you do? I don't know one. I can name a handful of men that would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 03:39 AM
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I also think when you're in a relationship you have to keep stricter boundaries. As you age, this is why you tend to not see your perspective. This is the difference between young people that think it SHOULD be rather than dealing with the fallout of bullshit that IS. I'm 40 and married, I know zero people like you are explaining. How old are you? Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 03:33 AM
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Will girls show up with a tool box and change tires, brakes, build decks, an outhouse, get a truck out of the ditch, etc? Co-op a video game, show up for poker, bring a handle of booze, bring her own fire arm to the gun range? I've seen too many stories and know a few women that just want men's attention like men want women's bodies. Is it platonic if it's found out that women want men's attention because they are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 03:12 AM
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Oh, I don't know, maybe practice what you preach by aligning your words to what you now say you practice. Sexual temperance seems a little more constructive than ashes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 12:15 AM
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So if everything burns to ashes, you think that's a good thing? I like how some women's answer is to act like a bad boy when they get the freedom. Two wrongs...revenge against men long gone for women long gone. What a irrational rationale to get the guts to act however they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 11:59 PM
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I don't see why this is so hard for you to see a man's perspective. Anger Phase TRP guys are mainly pissed that they believed this bullshit when it's now painfully obvious. It just took some woman treating him like shit to flash burn that ego away. How is it I understand your perspective better than you understand men's?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:41 PM
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I got a running theory that most women don't have a clue about men. That they may be more empathetic, but only to other women and children. It clearly doesn't extend to men in general. So these women go "hey you dummy men, you suck for not being a woman and naturally understanding a women's perspective. Who hurt you?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:36 PM
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They don't want to be seen as shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:20 PM
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"Ugh, that Moral guy is an asshole. He just wants to zoom zoom in my boom boom. Nice Guy, you're such a good listener. Why can't I find a good man?" Every sitcom out there has a bumbling unattractive man with a hot wife. Most men don't walk by chick novels and take notes about Fabio being on the front cover. Most adults want to give men what "should be" rather than give the reality. How many adults you think are going to say "Johnny, your fat. And you won't get laid being a fat ass?" No, they sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 03:15 PM
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The question is basically do women what to be treated as equals? ...could they even be able to explain men's perspectives enough to understand what "equals" even means?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:14 AM
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My view here is, women should not depend on or need men in any say for their safety. Next you'll say men should forsake their libido because feelz. You know women need men for safety. You asking for women to admit this by showing their cards to a weaker man as proof and its fucking stupid. Go ahead. Show up to a poker game and expect players to show their hand to YOU before you place a bet. What a tool. You've showed women!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:10 AM
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It is for them. That's why the come to TRP. They are there to become more masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:17 PM
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Only delusional men with no experience genuinely believe that you can never ever show a soft side. They aren't delusional. All of them have ONLY their soft side to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:07 PM
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The fact you cant easily ariculate this is telling. Egalitarianism is truly knowing both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:38 AM
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Sex is always bad for women, according to men. Disingenuous. You're better than that. Except for the first man who calls dibs on us Disingenuous plus two. Then three and four and...I've struck black gold! Rub...These aren't good examples and your "men need variety" is fucking idiotic. Reality requires you to think a little more than you want to. Don't act like a lot of reds with this insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:01 AM
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Defending your family from a bad guy is good yes? Is sex good and positive if you are cheating on your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 01:35 AM
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I live in Colorado but not in a mountain town or Denver. Its enough. I've also lived in Kansas, its enough there too. Back when it was just my paycheck, around 2009, I had a 210k house and the mortgage was 1100 a month. With a wife, car and one kid at the time. Easily doable if one isn't a moron with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 04:32 AM
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Yeah will do. They charge too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 12:02 AM
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Yeah, we have 3 kids. Dual income is the way to go. Especially with college in the next decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 11:24 PM
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I wanted to have my wife stay at home with the kids. She didn't. Okay, no biggie. I make close to 90k, she makes 104K as of today. Really good news and she's earned every penny. Looking back, we could have done it with just my paycheck. But god damn all that money has afforded us so much in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 10:48 PM
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Yeah, that was all good but general advice a lot of men need. Calling it misogynic is far more sexist (misandrist) than the advice he was giving. I don't actually understand that angle. And I think that's the error. They've failed to understand the opposition. How can you be NOT sexist if you fail to see the opposite side in such a tame example?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 02:42 AM
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I can’t imagine dating a girl more than 2 years younger than me. Uh, wat? Like...someone more than 48 months younger than you is somehow a psychological expression of creepiness you find revolting? How about a woman that's 22 and your 26? 30 and your 40? Are women perverts for preferring older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 11:14 PM
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Kevin Samuels is more helpful and entertaining. So is Entrepreneurs in Cars. Point being they look the look and can keep up with RP observations and make them Not Autistic in how they convey it to their audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 10:07 PM
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Are colleges a matriarchy Well, are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:39 PM
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At no point have I been talking about the mongol empire. This is the opposite of goal post. Its giving context before someone decides to say something wildly out of context. You would think what's happening in politics right now means something to someone using "patriarchy" in a serious manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 09:38 PM
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Hmmm, so you need someone reporting it? The majority of her CMVs it's pretty self evident. Like fair enough on personal attacks. Didn't know rules weren't rules as long as no one reports them. I'm assuming then someone called you about me personally attacking Babs, here...yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:07 PM
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Is there rules against bad faith CMVs?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 08:01 PM
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I dont known if you've noticed but some of the most bitter and "radicalized" people on PPD use the word should. They can't accept reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 02:05 PM
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The other side of this coin is that he's there to sit that boy down and tell him the truth about men and women. That he navigates that boy not on feelings, but on the truth. He doesn't sugar coat it and he constructively gives him outlets that help him build a stable, emotionally masculine understanding of himself and the world. This is why it's difficult for males to become adult men. Women cannot do this. A grandfather, uncle or father or step father has to put the time into raising the kid wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 07:51 PM
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I have three kids. Someone's going to be responsible for that money. Lets be idealistic and good with math!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:06 AM
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Being 100k plus in student debt is a little unrealistic? Big undertaking for anyone that gets their dreams easily disassembled with basic math. So, NOT a little unrealistic. VERY unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 12:41 AM
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Why are you oddly focused on W.A.P.?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:53 PM
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Then why complain we don't have to pay alimony payments like men do? Uh, because it's a legitimate complaint. You're mainly leaving in bimbos, party girls, gold diggers, and stupid sluts with daddy issues. Most adults are fully capable of having a sexual relationship with their significant other and not be ex sluts or something. What a weird thing to say, Lillth. Men are so fucking worried about divorce, but they're not filtering for those committment. Can you articulate the women men should foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:45 PM
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maybe men should take our advice since they're so jealous of us. What? How are men jealous of women? I've seen what you people go through. No way would I be jealous of that. Don't solely filter women based on looks and tightness of W.A.P. Er, most men just want their women to be sexually available the majority of the time. Its not that crazy. Its like women wanting men to be and STAY committed. Not a crazy request. What part of "Dont marry women just because they're hot" do men not understand? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:53 PM
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while not caring about her income, her intelligence, or her morals. Women expect an income if there's a relationship. That's at least number two on their list. Men do care about morals...at least the beta men that might actually want to take care of you. Most men like a good conversation too. If you date loser men though... You're suppose to take calculated risks. Yeah, there's no getting around this for anyone. So I agree. Just because you don't think investing in a relationship is worth, doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:40 PM
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it was obviously a symbolic gesture You are renaming shit to pooing in order to remove the offensiveness of it. Adults don't act like that. "She didn't throw it out of anger, she was being overtly manipulative". You think adults are immune from doing such things I get the mindset of some blues here. Women can do no wrong when you just reframe the occurrence into something less offensive. Then saying, hey, no one's perfect, as if to be the male version of woman rationalizing her shitty husbands' …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:08 PM
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And when you are dealing with this kind of women, you aren't dealing with an adult. My kids throw things when their really mad too. You are disagreeing on the basis that "dramatic gestures" doesn't mean she's immature... Have you ever acted like that to her? And how did she react?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:00 PM
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What's the worst argument you've had with your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:57 PM
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Man, I was listening to Kevin Samuels on Youtube. He had a 19 year old woman who wanted to be a trauma surgeon, have 3 kids and split her time between her part time practice helping impoverished families and working part time in the ER. It took about 5 minutes for Kevin to do the math and show her that there was no way reality was going to warp to that outcome no matter what she did. There's pressure and then there's not living in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:55 PM
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What makes you think it’s not allowed? Ever dealt with a woman in a relationship that you're mad at with a valid reason? This is a really silly question because its obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:46 PM
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Only my first kid didn't get that treatment because he pooped and breathed it in. NICU - "Welcome to parenting, bitch". No one tried to kill him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:12 PM
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Agreed. Women need to woman up and know when they are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:58 PM
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Can I also answer a question with more questions? Will deflection solve anything? Can woman own their mistakes or are they like Tomi Lauren that will say all men are trash before understanding she's most likely the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:52 PM
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to prevent their suicides Can I have whatever drugs you are on? They sound like a crazy time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:34 PM
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...No woman believes she's part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:33 PM
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Anger towards and about the woman you are "opening up to" is verboten. It elicits defense mechanisms that don't allow a couple to resolve shit. Which is why dead bedroom husbands can have a million come to Jesus talks with their wives and it doesn't amount to shit. Oddly enough, the "abusive" behaviors seems to kick women's ass into gear...but only because they stand to lose something. Which is why you don't Defend, Excuse, Explain or Rationalize with a spouse. A lot of women don't respond to "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:26 PM
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If you told men collectively that this is a test by women to see if you'll be a spineless coward, most men would start to get clued into how to pass shit tests. If you then told them you can do whatever you want, but you need to be a good leader so don't overdue it, most men would start to get clued into how to lead within their immediate family. Rollo did a nice article on "teaching the slaves to read". Its a good understanding that for men that didn't just get it, damned if they do and damned …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:16 PM
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What would women do to solve this problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:40 PM
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I think how you approach your sex life with your husband is more of a qualification of worthiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 11:01 PM
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I think a lot of men are getting clued into the fact that they're going to be 4th or 5th with women that have their kids so they are opting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:41 PM
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Transitional "for you". Most restaurants give away their 50 dollar meals for free if you look good enough. That's kind of why this is a buyer beware market and TRP says not to buy; just take. And that's why FDS, who gave meals away for free, now say to charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:44 PM
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The concept of obeying is about as impossible for you to understand as it is to act upon. Men lead and women follow. RP men know this Because they're right. Immodest women display such behavior for male attention, stop giving them attention They don't want a relationship and they don't want to be married. So why should they listen to you? Feminism or the sexual revolution isn't coercing you to participate in it Its ubiquitous. The audacity you exude just proves it given you seem to feel you're a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:19 PM
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Men want to know they are getting a fair trade. Women want to know they get the best with minimal responsibility and minimal effort. TRP is a response to western women treating them poorly and flip that back onto women. FDS says be a bad boy to all men and triple your asking value. Problem being, half the population has exactly what you got.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:08 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:22 PM
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Space, every "beta" male wants to sexually please their spouse. You have a very inaccurate view of most husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 02:10 PM
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When I lived in Germany for 4 years I had a bunch of husbands as a social circle. Good looking bunch. They surprised me with a visit to a brothel. I ain't like that, so while 10 husbands were fucking, I sat at the bar and got served a lot of whiskey by a Romanian wearing nothing but red high heels. It was 150 Euro cover charge...I might have drank enough to get my money's worth. Hands down, best money I ever spent to understand men and women. Given the long conversation I had with her...they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 05:12 AM
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It warps how everyone sees you, like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:55 AM
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Which makes him a terrible example
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:39 PM
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Our resident swinger does have a few good things to say...he just doesn't understand how his lifestyle warps the words that are coming out of his mouth. Or maybe he does and that's part of his interest here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:21 PM
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Lol. That's a great way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:06 PM
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I've got three kids. What do you think the best environment for raising kids is? I'm super critical about it working in actual marriage. Then you missed all the success stories. And you should be able to tell which marriages should end in divorce and which ones were easy to fix. AND know the why. Most people don't put in that kind of work. Too worried about getting hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 11:05 PM
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Yes, let them choose. And give them the tools to be successful. Many of MRP's sidebar material is straight purple and seeks to let everyone involved get what they want. Look, TRP knows you can't negotiate desire. So let them choose what they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:43 PM
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It might be a shock to you, but a lot of men really like sex. Also nice personal attack it really highlights who is really butthurt here. Me disagreeing with you and not vilifying people with vaginas doesn't cause me any more feelings than mowing my lawn. You are telling me to get over myself and not be butthurt. I'm assuming you are new to confrontation. I however, have been here for like six years. Only Atlas pisses me off occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:40 PM
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I can see that. I don't know how I can be any more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:35 PM
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So then don't marry. Easy. Now what about all the men that "wake" up during marriage? You want them to improve their lives or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:35 PM
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I'm absolutely not. That's their choice as an individual. You don't need no man. It was dumb when feminists said it and its dumb when RP guys say it. SO MAYBE we just give them the tools to be successful and let them make that choice for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:31 PM
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What baffles me is at what point did these men think life isn't a gamble? I've heard RP guys say Feminism steered men and women wrong. And it theoretically made a lot of people unhappy. Its probably the case. But RP is doing the exact same thing by saying beta men should be better off alone. You don't need no man. It was dumb when feminists said it and its dumb when RP guys say it. SO MAYBE we just give them the tools to be successful and let them make that choice for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:28 PM
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Well its not up to me or you. Its the man's decision as an individual what kind of full human experience he wants. Sorry I inflamed your irritated ego, gatekeeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:23 PM
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Married or not, MRP absolutely works. they make more decisions and "happy wife, happy life" trope You must not be familiar with MRP. Most of the prep for MRP is getting the wife to fall in line or divorce. Its the same path of self improvement. Save the man, not the marriage. That's their "trope". Also, RP WILL be reaching men who are married and didn't know better. That's the majority of their users. TRP has some great insight. MRP has been in the trenches in a way TRP has never even dreamed of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:20 PM
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Did Bezos even feel that loss of money? I'm thinking he's pretty sad he can't upgrade to gold plated toilets on his Yacht until next fiscal year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:13 PM
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Their best bet is to get to MRP, get familiar with the material, read some Rollo; especially about a "full human experience". Because for some reason, some of you reds want men to live like monks so that at LEAST women don't get ANY benefit even if it leads to a guys full human experience. Women might hurt them or they might have no issue sucking their dick a couple times a week. Give men the answers. Men can always make more money. Which is funny that you'd name fucking Jeff Bezos, who did just…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 10:02 PM
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Devils in the details, Rub. You are here because TRP outlined the details. I don't go to a sub where people think the world is flat. No one needs to. They are "flat" wrong. Yet here you are. Surface level bullshit trying to masquerade as wisdom. And your answer is "whoosh". Like most of your answers, full of air and not much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:37 AM
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Not how they are separate. So women fail men for not being a competent woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:17 AM
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I think it will grow much larger due what I saw while living in Europe. Feminism is confusing everyone in order make us believe we are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 11:44 PM
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Mass projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 11:42 PM
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But seriously, is it a medical condition caused by low iron or the result of severe mental illness over sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 08:05 PM
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Yes I understand you're a chick. I don't find beta traits to be bad, I'm saying women don't sexually reward beta traits. Comfort doesn't build sexual attraction. And with this mindset I should presume “all men” have negative qualities until proven otherwise. Presume what you wish. Men already must qualify to women in order to get laid. It's not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:39 PM
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Right. Overcorrecting is the act of someone that doesn't know why or how to avoid it in the future, just that they want to have it not happen again. This tells me they aren't taking full responsibility for their role in their own life. Which is why they make everyone after pay the price.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:35 PM
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What you prefer and what women find sexually attractive are two different things. And men should presume to think All Women Are Like That unless shown otherwise. Because the view point gets them laid. Regardless of what you appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 07:30 PM
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Right. Given that their aren't that many rules, if any, and not that many consequences...being in a committed relationship should be a great middle ground. What I don't get is how it all became so transactional. You like giving? BETA BUX!!! You like being a great wife or GF? DOORMAT!!! Like we are actively telling men and women to fight each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:53 PM
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That said, I’m okay with marriage and its risks. Yeah, one can only reduce risk. The best things in life are a risk. I think a lot of TRP guys don't like that. They just say the juice isn't worth the squeeze because the fruit isn't free to them. Anything approaching "you're not awesome" is scary to these guys. Which is why the hang onto N Count. Going further hurts their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:50 PM
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Butthurt? Me disagreeing with you doesn't make me butthurt. Stop being so sensitive on a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:41 PM
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Green Eyed Devil was a flair for a swinger guy a while back. You aren't a swinger are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:26 PM
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We really have no rules to all this stuff. Its created a buyer beware market. So, all is fair in love and war becomes a rationalization for fucking people over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:25 PM
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A lot of men use it to avoid women altogether. Which is why I say don't rely heavily on it. But go ahead, assume the world to be so simple; its why a lot of men are so bitter in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 05:18 PM
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Because i have morals. And if you are red, most of this means you choose to be amoral in your behavior. And while I can start a war as I did in my anger phase, I choose not to because that's short term game not long term strategy. Is she aware you're active on these internet subs? My wife knows everything because I told her. From the very beginning. And she probably still reads most of my posts. She says she doesn't, but I'll catch her say something that makes it obvious to me she's still readin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:43 PM
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Here's the thing. Women, AFTER FUCKING, start coming to their senses. RP guys will know she's caught the Feelz and will follow them through a blizzard if the guy wants her to show up. I've known plenty of women that will admit this. They date bad men that treat them poorly and those women do ALL the work to stay with that bad boy. TRP noticed this and have used it to great success. If you are naïve or judgmental, no one, not even your friends are going to admit that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:31 PM
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Well, marriage is a WHOLE separate existence if your a guy. I think men need to be as restrictive of marrying women as women are restrictive of who they let into their vagina. Top 20 percent only! So yeah, if your at that level, N count is a first step of thousands to consider in a wife. Dating or GF, meh. Okay, she's got a high N count. Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:24 PM
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pressure flipping Pressure flip is the idea is you're not phased by the question and answer so quickly that now the spotlight is on her, all because you're flipping the script with haste. Now my wife figured this one out, so when she does I might agree and amplify or change the subject or just completely ignore depending on if the conversations fun or she's annoyed. Of course, this all sounds ridiculous as most of it I do without much conscious thought, but I do remember the MRP days where I had…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:19 PM
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It is just a qualitative selection. Well, so if we are evaluating qualitatively, its a concern to me that we are using a "quantitative value" of N. N count might be a good stepping stone, but men shouldn't be relying on it too heavily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:13 PM
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Amused mastery was always my favorite. Because basically is was teaching you to be fun. And I can be overly intense, which has it's value in some situations, but not all. Don't Defend, Excuse, Explain or Rationalize to your wife because she'll see it as bullshit. And I've coupled that with AM or pressure flipping. Of course, my wife can adapt to that so PF becomes a source of comedy with AM. Shit tests and comfort tests was vastly important in the beginning though it fades into the background to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 04:08 PM
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Idk, pretty sure not bring cheated on and insulted is definitely a factor is creating the safe space for attraction to happen. If he's LL then how would you experience any of this? Additionally, I'm sure you didn't go, "Oh yeah, he's got a giant throbbing stable safe space happening right now. We gonna fuuk"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:58 PM
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And I'm sure they won't be outing themselves if you're the type of woman that will bulk at some of the crazy shit they did when their social circle wasn't watching. And the mere fact that you'd think they were desperate tells me they'd never be comfortable revealing that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:52 PM
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ALL of my relationships improved. At work, at home, with a mother that I never got along with. The assertiveness training on MRP's sidebar is hands down the most valuable information I've ever read. I agree with TRP's observation of women. I agree on how to pass tests. I however don't like the manipulative tactics because you can easily accomplish what you need to by being assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:50 PM
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11 years. Its clear MRP and TRP have unraveled the "mystery of women". But as long as I'm married and continue to want my whole family to succeed, there's no fucking way I could call myself red. So purple it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:44 PM
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Also, you included "settling for betabuxx," which is basically punishing good men. I don't think that. Women don't at all reward or appreciate beta bux. And this is the key reason men complain about that: BECAUSE WOMEN EXPECT IT as a foundational "service". Most women like their husbands from what I can tell. They don't find beta behavior sexually attractive. They find it comforting. Thus it doesn't get men laid, married or not. Like, its very important to be self aware, so I don't know how this…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:37 PM
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They've never been effective on me. So are you the liaison for the Office of All Women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:34 PM
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Man, I hate to be that guy, as I'm also married. But why is any man aiming to get married? Avoiding high N count isn't all of it. What's her mentality? How did those relationships end? And ONS? What's her family life like? Is she okay with YOUR frequency of sex and your expectation of that continuing? Do you know her work ethic at home? At work? Does she know you have no problems divorcing if this shit goes south? Are YOU okay with divorcing? Are you REALLY good at being assertive and "boundary …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:30 PM
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So they're left with being nice as a dating strategy. They've been sold the idea that men should use female strategy to fuck women. Of course, they've never used a male strategy, don't even know what that looks like and then never get to see how successful it is. Thus a average frustrated chump is molded over a few short years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:20 PM
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Funny... I don't see women doing that, and yet men will still say stuff like this. Then you're young and or not very observant. Its so obvious that I'm questioning how you didn't see that. So yes, funny...Many women reward bad behavior even if you are not part of that group. That's why MRP and TRP are SO EFFECTIVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 03:12 PM
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Thanks. Theirs always something I'm missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 02:11 PM
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I always say that women need comfort and security like men need sex. It becomes more apparent once women's choices start to dwindle. Are women forced to settle for men that are less physically attractive I think as they age, the prioritize security. I think it's real shitty of any woman that sees this as settling because Minor Chad and Major Chad didn't want to stick around. A woman's level is the man she can keep, not that man that will pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:39 PM
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why the fk are they so delusional? Well it couldn't be all the real attention from men from the very moment they sprouted boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 03:31 AM
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Not really an expert on women if that's the conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 03:15 AM
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Bullshit. BPD women have almost no problem abusing and betraying their men. F-.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:55 AM
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Yeah. Its the "good girl I am" narrative and when you try to tell them why it isn't, they won't see it. Some get it when they are married, but they get it in a way that says if I fuck this up my husband will leave my ass. That's why I doubt equality is even achievable. This is only fixed by educating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:29 AM
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Well, I'm not going to go onto the dance floor and shake my ass while some weirdo stares at me so there's obviously a balance. You expect people to be fucking Saints? We can't take virginal beliefs and inject them into relationships here. Because you are expecting a work of supernatural fiction...kinda like a Christmas movie!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:06 AM
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Yeah, me too. People that act like Oakman's explanation get ostracized. He sounds like all theory and no life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:03 AM
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Thing is, most people don't know how to balance those things. Most adults know how to do this. I don't know who you live around but they sound like broken people who can't be arsed to do shit if it doesn't have some personal gain...but we often attract our reflective counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:02 AM
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It would be nice if more people are motivated by internal virtue ...so your saying people are motivated by reciprocity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:00 AM
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My father took her back because her last friend had it with her. So she lucked out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 12:11 AM
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A good way to not be taken advantage of is to be assertive that way you can defend your boundaries. If you can't do that all you can be is a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 10:34 PM
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Then have boundaries...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 10:23 PM
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You read that wrong. Its dangerous for women to help men and it makes men weak. Holy shit. I'm literally agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 08:56 PM
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Women should never be in the business of solving problems for men. Its abysmal for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 08:42 PM
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When my father got separated from my mother, he stayed with us. He's been blue pill all his life. In his late 50's, when he finally bought his dream car, a DeTomosa Pantera, my mother flipped her lid. See, this retired Lt Col and ex Chief Operating Officer somehow betrayed my mother in her eyes. EVERYONE sided with my dad and she lost nearly everyone. My wife and I took care of my father, did what we could to give him space to fully process what amounted to a spoiled brats' temper tantrum. It ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 08:39 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:00 PM
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He is playing games. Because if he wasn't, he'd say I'm busy with this chick over here and I'll text you later if I feel like it but you aren't that important. But BECAUSE she's an option to get some pussy later down the line, he's not going to be honest. How are you not seeing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:35 PM
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And I don't have enough digits to count the times I've gotten a "i don't usually do this" or "don't think this is going to get you anywhere" AND it exactly got me what I wanted. The girls just didn't want to appear easy to get. Its a game. If no meant no, TRP wouldn't have a whole lot of information on precisely what it actually means to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:26 PM
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The mere fact that you accept a drink means you are playing games. If you said no thank you and didn't accept, then yeah, you aren't playing games. I get it. Women aren't usually assertive and they are dealing with men that don't talk indirectly. Men's complaint about play games doesn't mean men aren't mostly responsible for it. Depending on women's behavior, they do share some of the criticism. Your personal morality tends to be your go-to I suppose in most discussions with you. But your inabil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:22 PM
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Why would you accept drinks from a man you probably know has ulterior motives? That's literally saying I'm conscious of your reasons for buying me a drink, but I'll play this game with you anyways. Am I “playing games” with him? Absolutely you are. YES. You've just explicitly said he's not going to win, but lets play anyways. Lol. Not my fault your going to lose is not the same as not playing games.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:09 PM
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So...wait. C'mon. When you ask if she's playing games you are making it very ambiguous here. So if she's intentionally playing games she's playing games. If it's just this Obfuscated Cooperate Politician speak, well that's just "dynamics at play". Grid, you playing games with me here?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:59 PM
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No doubt. I wouldn't call these women innocent. They are intentionally using men and that clearly is poor behavior...wouldn't you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:45 PM
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There are some women that want beta orbiters and it's well observed women will play games to keep men's attention by "playing games". So while she's not interested sexually, she knows full well he's into her and she's using him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 04:42 PM
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You look through a victim mindset. You aren't your point of origin. You have your mind shoved right up the collective vagina of women and even though you are so close, you've absolutely failed to get the basics right. If you're trp, you've failed like thousands before you to simply do the god damn work on the sidebar. You're "effin tired of games" because your lazy ass can't be bothered to both learn game and find it fun. Because your a boring ass shit. So, yeah, how are you supposed to know shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 05:39 AM
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This is why one of MRP's mandatory reading is a book on assertiveness. They are scared of a women half their size and half their strength for no reason. And it makes no sense. They aren't getting fucked anyways. Why not rock the boat?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 02:51 AM
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The house doesn't like card counters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 06:55 PM
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I mean, can you point to the group of women that find obese, short, jobless men who live in there mother's basement sexually attractive? Because you just solved a whole bunch of men's problems right here. Or can everyone just admit most men, especially TRP, got a Good Enough Understanding to be useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 06:38 PM
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Don't say it. I still have flashbacks to how much money my wife spent on pottery when we were stationed in Europe. But yeah, a young woman wouldn't necessarily notice such things. But I've also seen a few Germans that would say the same thing. And all I can assume is that the blue pill is stronger the further west you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 04:21 PM
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Also a lot of 6 figure jobs tend to be stressful and demanding I work DoD acquisition but I've been all around government contracting for several military branches. It doesn't matter if its a GS or NH pay structure. The moment you approach 100k, the amount of extra work and responsibility does NOT justify the miniscule amount of pay you might get in return. Guess I could go Gov Contractor and make over 100k. But then I'd be worried about contracts getting renewed every year and if I'll have a jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:46 PM
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What Men Hear From Women - have an attractive face, be above average in most or all categories, don't have a small dick, be a functional man, be a functional woman, make 50k to 120k minimum, don't be a push over, be educated, be sensitive when it's necessary, don't be dull but be stoic in times of crisis, be good in bed, be a provider, be assertive, want children, know your place, be okay with my past sexual experience, know your value and don't overstep that, understand woman because women want…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:37 PM
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...I'm assuming you aren't American then and probably very young. Am I generally correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:06 PM
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Really? You dont see anything true about RP observations on women's nature?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:54 PM
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They also don't like the tone for that very reason. Which is why many women will agree as long as you're PC about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:08 PM
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No, that would be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 12:42 PM
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The world is changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 04:18 AM
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Lol, yeah I'm being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:32 AM
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She literally told him the real reason. He messed up that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:14 AM
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Yep. And OP directed a whole lot of flatline, so she was polite but probably super annoyed that she just wasted her evening. Hell, she was pissed enough to call him dull and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:12 AM
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They want “positive” emotions and not “negative” emotions Oh, fuck that, women tend to want both. They just don't want boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:07 AM
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You have to illicit feelings within her to find you interesting. Yes, that means be entertaining. No, don't be a clapping fucking monkey. Try to just be stoic when there's a "crisis". Also, try to do a little more homework if you want to understand women better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 02:06 AM
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What? Its real if you wait right? Its not true attraction or a real relationship unless we act like we don't find each other attractive for exactly 10 to 15 dates. That's what girls say, right? Wait if you think it's going to be a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:29 AM
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Oh yeah, second hand cuck. So hawt yo. All the boys like that milkshake and I'm going to be the one that gets to take care of her the rest of my life. So much winning. Need a cold shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 01:24 AM
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Men are fairly simple. Dont recoil when a dude wants to kiss you, physical affection, all sorts of stuff. But c'mon, women have to throw out obvious interest or else we're going to come to the most obvious conclusion that you aren't into us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 12:38 AM
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I feel like a chick really finds me hot when she makes me wait 10 to 15 dates before we fuck. TRP guy isn't going to get married anyways. And they clearly know women break their rules for men they find attractive. They don't break rules for betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 11:44 PM
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52 dicks? Oh boy...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 11:25 PM
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So high n count but mostly in LTRs? So I'm dealing with a woman that cant keep a relationship? That's not a good look either...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 09:23 PM
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If that were the case we wouldn't have any beta orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 07:19 PM
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Men have been taken advantage by some women...you can understand this yes? Rub, the basis for all this n count stuff does revolve around women not treating men correctly and men taking issue with being treated poorly by women. Do you think men just wanted to arbitrarily become big meanie heads to women for no good reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:13 PM
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Great. Don't really care who invented it. Just tell the weird women I used to date not to bring it up please. That'd be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:09 PM
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Sure, but at that point I'd assume I'm making a judgement on who she is as an individual. Like I said - In the end, N count is one of many indicators. You have to start trying to understand the opposite sex at a personal level at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:07 PM
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Taking advantage of a man? Okay, so at some point you'd have to be able to understand men in some fairly basic was. Men have been taken advantage by some women...you can understand this yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:05 PM
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Women don't want to hear that their actions might have consequences. Its viscerally scary to some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:58 PM
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I value sex in a relationship not sex outside of a relationship. FWB feels like immature high school bullshit to me. So why would I get into an LTR with an immature woman? all sex must be for serious “pair-bonding” What does this even mean? I think most men don't want to be taken advantage of by a woman that's just using them to pay the bills. Is that so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:56 PM
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No, you just have the Madonna/whore complex If that were the case, I'd have divorced my wife for being a normal girl in the sack. She's great and I don't expect porn star sex. That's why you lack object constancy YOUR approved version, sure. But who told you men and women think the same things? she can be capable of BOTH things. She can be whatever she likes. And I can choose to not be with her if I don't find her behavior attractive or line up to my morals. Accept it or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:50 PM
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My closest male friend is Bi, and used to have a crush on me like 15 years ago That's not a friend then. He might have wanted to be a lover though. But that makes HIM a "beta orbiter" of sorts. sexual attraction towards one of your friends doesn't mean it has to compromise being a good friend The mere existence of sexual attraction in my mind negates friendship. Because they stick around you due to sexual attraction. My perspective might also be influenced I think you might want to take the othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:44 PM
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Which is fine on her part. But if she tells me, its going to turn me off in having an LTR with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:38 PM
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Exactly. Thanks to MRP and TRP, its no longer a gut feeling but a conscious observation. I always hated that it was on the tip of my tongue but I could never articulate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:31 PM
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I pretend to be the most cucky sex positive person in existence at which point they bring it up with themselves. If your attractive and non-judgmental, they'll tell you every gory detail. I side with FDS on this one; women should shut up past a few basic questions. Especially if they want to be in an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:23 PM
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Like most of life, its assumed you might try shit and then find its not for you and grow from there. The men that are overly sensitive to N count are naïve and don't have a lot of experience to actually help them navigate women. N count is training wheels for clueless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:19 PM
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Would you end an otherwise happy and fulfilling relationship? Look, I know this is going to be unpopular but chances are people with high n counts aren't that good at relationships. Some might be, but its not really good for people to give them a "chance" for the most part. If I owned a business and needed a CFO, I'm not going to hire a sausage smoker that doesn't have the experience to run my finances. Women will say the same thing about virgin men for the most part. So while we might be happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:10 PM
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I think men underestimate the value women place on male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:22 PM
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Yeah, no. This is absolutely retarded and that's the responsibility of law enforcement or people that deal with mentally ill citizens, not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:19 PM
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I certainly did have female friends before that, but there definitely was at minimum a small amount of lust there. I think we can make a term like "friend" so ambiguous that the word itself doesn't even have an inherent value. I know who my friends are because they show up and help me move, help change brake pads, build decks or otherwise do shit that's NOT convenient. The moment you say you low level find them attractive, you lose the definition of friend, because what friend would you even fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:17 PM
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They don't need to be aware. What good would it do women to be aware of the dating crisis some men experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 04:09 PM
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Where is this 'science'? Happy, one must be wise enough to know the difference between quantitative values and qualitative values. You don't get a nice convenient encapsulation of my views or yours. Because quality isn't something you can just numerically present as "science". I'm sorry you've missed the nature for whatever reason you've missed it. But you have missed it. Stick around a while. Maybe you might learn something about women and yourself. And how that differs from most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:51 AM
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I started out as one, ascended and now seem to have fallen back down. There's got to be a different title for you. Maybe just divorced. Are you Japanese or living abroad?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 12:19 AM
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did men treat women as property more than the reverse? Men don't anymore in westernized countries. Do you want me to acknowledge that men used atlatls to down mammoths and then take credit for that be virtue of being a dude? How unbelievably ridiculous that is. What specific human right did YOU specifically have to fight for? You're what? 22 or 23. Always had a right to vote, have a bank account, etc. No one owned you. When some TRP guy says men built the world, I clown them too because they don…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 10:46 PM
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women were genuinely oppressed Anyone alive in America that isn't allowed to go to college, vote, have basic human rights? Any women kept as legal property in westernized countries? I know I don't own any women. My father doesn't. My grandfather didn't. And I know my wife voted because I handed in her ballot. And she owns half our bomb ass house given the paperwork we have. Its weird to hear, we kind of care, but we don't really because men who aren't alive anymore used to own women as literal p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:48 PM
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Men shouldn't be in the business of giving women a chance when it's clear that will put them at risk of getting hurt. And many men ARE disgusted with investing with such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:37 PM
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ou don't listen to actual women. You are not Interested in understanding or communicating with women. I've spent years learning. My life with my wife and my mother are innumerably better. The science is there, the picture of how women behave is clear. Men aren't your girlfriend. Most men don't want to hear gory details of women past and women don't like that. None of this makes me emotional at all...you know, because I accept what women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:32 PM
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Hey, someone tends to get shot in the face either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:28 PM
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They do, but some take it too far. Stats are there though. Higher n count in women does increase you chances of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:24 PM
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And your edit displayed a continued lack of understanding or misreading. I don’t know what a pick me dude is. ...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:57 PM
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I misread and added an edit. You're a pick me dude. Plane and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:50 PM
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women just don't care about men as a whole I don't think most of them even understand men in any basic way. the more I am convinced that Karen Straughan is correct She's great. But it wasn't until she got divorced before she started getting it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:47 PM
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The men that do this clearly want to find every excuse to avoid women altogether. That's why they rate a girl that should be a solid 8 as a 3. That way, no woman will ever be good enough and they can stay safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:42 PM
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Edit: Wow, nvm. Okay some men like being cucks and need other men's lust over their gfs to turn them on. Most men are not like that. They in essence overcorrect in order to appeal to women as a "pick me" guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:32 PM
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Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, absolutely. Though, men should in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:27 PM
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You shouldn't apply logic to something you hardly have a grasp of...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:23 PM
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Men can be sexually attracted to and can fuck women with high N counts. They can also be viscerally disgusted at the idea of marrying that same woman. Look, I don't go to my wife's credit score or dick count and go, yeah, okay you are now more physically attractive due to the number of cocks in your past. Hawt. Additionally, the red pill, and almost any male improvement guide teach men how to get sex easily or casually. Yes and they are totally against marriage...why do you think that is?!?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:21 PM
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Would you be okay watching an old porno of your gf fucking a past ex? The only thing I can think of as to why someone would care is due to their insecurities. Then you've listened to too many bullshit rationalizations from women and you aren't listening to men when they tell you why. A lot of men are viscerally disgusted by it. And biologically, we get that due to the nature of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 08:14 PM
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That takes experience. Which requires comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:37 PM
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Good things to talk about - Do you beat, cheat or otherwise treat your SO poorly? Bad things to talk about - Any specifics that draw a picture in your SO's brain that adds other people into the context of you and your SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:36 PM
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I get what your saying. Some women DO compare in detail. You just compare in how they make you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:27 PM
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Well, women are hypergamous. Their very nature is to test and measure men in all ways. Now, it might just be about feelings, like the OP is saying. And I get she doesn't want to be offensive, but I'd love women to shut the fuck up about their past sex lives past a few details I need to know. Cheating, any ONS, etc. 7-8 inch range so realistically shouldn't every guy who is not also in that 7-8 inch range assume his gf has had bigger? I suppose, but I don't know what that'll accomplish for the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:24 PM
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Why do you think women tend to prefer men with sexual experience? They tend to want taller partners who make a lot of money. You are just redefining "comparison" to mean something that is VERY specific to support your view. I just feel like maybe people don’t think about their exes as much as you think they do. Men tend to be competitive. So do women in their own way and they'll notice where they rank when she starts looking at some facebook post or something. Also, go ahead and tell your BF you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:05 PM
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extremely misogynistic I think what your seeing is a that you have no real life experience in dealing with women in a sexual relationship as a man. While there might be plenty of sexist men, most of the RP people were VERY beta and easily had women's back...until they started catching on to why women treated them poorly. But yes, there are some young men that are just parroting TRP because they're flat scared of women and want a reason to stay away from them. Either way, if what you are reading …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:42 PM
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I think a lot of people are straight blind both to their own understanding of themselves and the understanding of others. It takes a lot of conscious effort to attain both. And it's painful to kill your ego to get at what I'd define as wisdom. But the first "state" HAS to be fully understanding one's self. And from there you can start to understand other individuals both in how you are similar and how you differ. In my few years here at PPD, its clear many people project onto others, which is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:25 PM
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That's bullshit. Mindset is very important. Its not at all a cop out and that's so obvious I don't even know where to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 05:15 PM
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I think he genuinely cares about the plight of young men and is trying to offer words of encouragement Exactly. The "manosphere" doesn't do itself any favors by dismissing men that clearly want to see men succeed. TRP wrote a post "Jordan Peterson isn't your friend". It failed to connect an ally and instead dismissed what could have helped spread their own observations to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 12:54 AM
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MGTOW should be playing the long game. They should be apathetic to women. MGTOW is dismissed by simply complaining. Right or wrong, there are more moves left. But their mad and they want to show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 12:51 AM
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NEITHER should be allowed to get away with it. Does MGTOW say that or do they complain that women can play that card but men can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 12:48 AM
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k jojo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 10:31 PM
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Rationalizing hamster will wreck this like Godzilla on Tokyo. Its best to understand women's nature, then meet individual women and make a determination on each woman. People are not equations with clear methodology dictating their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:48 PM
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The idea of TRP's Oneitis is that you start caring more for the woman than for yourself. It means you aren't able to keep your boundaries anymore and you'll let her trample you or take her back if she cheated. Given the reality of women, its clear women most likely won't return the favor. Now this isn't in every case of course. But men tend to want women to fix them rather than do the job themselves. Which is the main issue for these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:05 PM
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So then why are you answering on a ask TRP question?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 09:01 PM
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That's what we call victim mentality. And people don't hate MGTOW, they are annoyed at this kind of mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:21 PM
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Married too. There's a vast difference from "best you can possibly get" and "soulmate". Soulmate is tunnel-vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 08:10 PM
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Jordan Peterson promotes slave mentality I think that's categorically silly. See, that's what I'm talking about. No one is going to take MGTOW seriously with this kind of talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:57 PM
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Two things. MGTOW is completely justified given the state of men and woman in the western world. MGTOW doesn't make a good case for itself by looking like guys taking their toys and going home. Bill Maher has a great way of explaining this. And at it's core is really the tone MGTOW uses. I've said it for years. TRP, MRP and MGTOW have the right information and there's a reason they are still picked last for kickball. The message needs to turn "purple" if you want it to spread like wildfire. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:55 PM
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I want a soulmate I guess TRP could have changed, but I'm pretty sure TRP strictly tells men NOT to develop Oneitis with women. In fact, it's probably the number on indicator that a guy is setting himself up for a huge fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:26 PM
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My assumption of sophisticated IN CONTEXT to Sado's original comment is opposite of traditional. To be liberal and new age, which is stepping away from what most men would deem LTR material.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:58 PM
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Yeah, we used to make margaritas for my MIL after her chemo every month. She'd stay at our house that night. This was before it got real bad so she didn't have a problem having dinner. So "that time of year" I usually buy good tequila. This year its Herradura Tequila. We usually have a few drinks and reminisce on what a wonderful person she was. I've found it's best to steer into it rather than not talk about it, but that's only if he's ready for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:37 PM
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Yeah, but that's what it's called, what would the ulterior word be if you sacrifice and it pays off? Being a supporting spouse that's both a cheerleader and a partner. Regardless if it pays off or not. We do that because that dignifying. Not because you expect a certain result. Your support IS the result. Victim's hear that and they automatically think "doormat" or "bang maid". Which isn't the case. They are letting their fears drive them. And that doesn't allow you to do things for your partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:29 PM
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Your partner is fallible. That's a fact of life. And when people are working at a deficient its best to acknowledge and or learn what is most attractive to a partner that's going to be helping you with a giant burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:22 PM
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I quit my job to move to Germany because she was offered a job there. Didn't want 3 kids but she always invisioned having three kids. So we did, and we have a wonderful little girl who's turning 5 tomorrow. I wanted her to be a stay at home mom. She wanted to work. We got all sorts of cool shit and we pull in a ridiculous amount of money. So yes, I've sacrificed more for her than the other way around. And it's led to so many wonderful things. Of course, I don't call is sacrifice. That's a victim…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:17 PM
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Zom, we call a partner that can be a cheerleader...a supportive partner. Many women can achieve this. Only the most broken of women cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 05:02 PM
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My wife having a double mastectomy didn't change the fact that I like boobs. And it didn't stop me from taking care of her while she recovered from surgery after surgery. It didn't stop us from moving two children to Europe and having a 3rd kid on the German economy. When her mother died of cancer, it didn't change my wife's personality or how much I cared about her. And it didn't change how much we both cared for our three children or about continuing to move through life towards our goals; whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:57 PM
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I had a coworker in Europe just beside herself when she couldn't get a man to commit. She ran through the gambit of Has a High Paying Job, Has a Masters Degree, and goes on all sorts of adventures With Her Daughter. She made a good dude with very little time for anyone else. Drank a lot, was loud, assertive and fucking annoying. It was clear why men would fuck her but not stick around. The guy position was already taken in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:46 PM
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Welcome to the party, pal. Shall I whip out my marriage creds and we measure? Or can I just come to a conclusion of your marriage experience with what you've chosen to lead with?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:33 PM
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Well, duh. You think he's somehow a snow flake that is unique and somehow unrelatable to men's common psychology in what men generally find attractive? Women just don't like to hear they are unattractive to men, which is what you are taking issue with. But obviously it hit a nerve in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:27 PM
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So go ahead. How does a sophisticated women act? And when a woman acts sophisticated, do you think men find it sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:18 PM
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Also, if she critiques you in front of your family, is that ok? Neither man or woman should be correcting their spouse in front of the family. That's absolutely disrespectful. You guys want a lot from women but I never hear about what you're willing to do to work on the relationship Then you're tone deaf to what RP men actually are. They are reformed beta men that clearly know how to work in a relationship. What they need to learn is to be assertive. This idea you have in your head is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:15 PM
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Okay Cathy Newman, can you really not understand what he's saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:10 PM
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Hot dudes aren’t automatically “assholes”/arrogant” they just get a pass for it A lot of women reward such behavior because they find it attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:15 PM
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You're existence doesn't exclude Beta Bux. That's incredibly naïve to think so. YOU are not the standard for all women, but your perspective is common for women to think. What happens in 15 years and you start worrying about what you missed out on by marrying at 22?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 04:08 PM
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You are completely misunderstanding my line of questions. Its pretty damn clear so I dont know how you aren't following along.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 08:18 PM
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Precisely. Its so fluid I can't tell if people are actively lying or truly believe this crazy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:48 PM
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So all the citation above cannot be attributed to feminism as its virtually meaningless? This was simply women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:46 PM
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How is this even valid when your top comment is to dismiss the CMV with this answer? CMV - Modern day feminism has done more damage than good. You - There is literally no grand leader who gets to decide what is feminism or not. None. How are you then going to tell me of all the good it's done, while at the same time answering the CMV as you did? Look, I agree with most of this. I just can't believe you'd post this after dismissing the critisism by saying its leaderless. It makes ZERO sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:38 PM
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Exactly. Imagine walking into some "my Kung Fu is better than your street fighting" CMV and the top comment is "well, street fighting doesn't really have a unified leader or the best approach to fighting so...Like what the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:33 PM
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I think feminism did a lot right and is doing some things fairly poorly. I think its a bullshit answer to say it can't be criticized because it lacks a leader or unified group of people. Rosmask is implying that with her answer to the CMV. Put plainly it can receive credit and criticism even if it lacks a "rigid militaristic hierarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:29 PM
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Completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:26 PM
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Its. A. CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:24 PM
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As a matter of debate, the top comment is saying that the OP's criticism is invalid because feminism has no leader. As if that's the reason feminism can't be damaging. So you are just literally agreeing, out of context of this post that feminism has no leader? Oi vay. Not Answer strikes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:22 PM
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Agreed. What has feminism done poorly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:15 PM
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Agreed. But was that really feminism that accomplished that? Or was that equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:14 PM
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Then how can you agree with Rosmask? She is literally saying that feminism can't be damaging because there's no grand leader who gets to decide what is feminism or not. How can you agree with her and then in the next breath tell me what feminism has done for you? Why are you giving feminism credit if it can't be criticized? For the record, I think feminism has been very beneficial for women. But it can't simultaneously take credit for the good and then not take credit for the bad because it - ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 07:12 PM
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Good, then go ahead, tell me what good has feminism done for women? Because if you list anything, your initial answer is complete bs. How could feminism do good for women if - There is literally no grand leader who gets to decide what is feminism or not. None. Seriously, people speak of feminism like this formally organized Freemason society. Feminism is among the most vague political epithets that exist. This is why ''feminists'' spaces will have internal, substantial, disagreements. So...did s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:55 PM
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What good has feminism done for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:51 PM
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Can you blame us with answers like this? Look, can women at all tell me what feminism has done to improve women's lives? Because if you can, I'm going to through down this trump card - There is literally no grand leader who gets to decide what is feminism or not. None. And I'll say there's no way feminism can take credit for anything because isn't not even a group of people. just an very watered down idea that is changed by every individual. So YES, when women routinely say feminism is literally…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 06:49 PM
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I'll make this real simple. What good has feminism done for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 05:59 PM
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I've been doing this for years. I don't need input on arguments. You are giving a Not Answer which cannot be argued against. Pre-gamergate or post-gamergate. If there is no definition of what feminism is and what it isn't, you don't have a stance because you don't have a definition that people agree upon. All you have is feelings that you are trying to quantify which typically leads to "Not this thing or not that thing". In your case, "No Feminism is Alike". So no, it isn't good advice given how…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 05:42 PM
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Feminism is so pervasive and ubiquitous that it is simultaneously the salvation of all women while doing nothing wrong because everyone's feminism is completely different. This is the problem with trying to discuss these ideas and I think most men eventually catch on not to listen to these types of arguments from women. This is why ''feminists'' spaces will have internal, substantial, disagreements. Then feminism is nothing. So should men just point at women in general rather than "feminists"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:24 PM
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In some sense, I understand. Some were force fed in insane asylums. They learned jujitsu or some shit and often did whatever it took to have equal consideration in society. And that's what it took to get it. I think women should be able to own land, vote and generally have appropriate influence in their own life. The problem became that many women want all the authority and none of the responsibility or consequences of being an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:17 PM
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I shudder at the theoretical food bill...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 10:09 PM
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Rest? I think you mean raise. Nobody is god here. After 3 kids, yeah, I wouldn't recommend kids after 40 because you get too fucking old to raise small babies. Had 3 kids starting when my wife was 29, 32, and 34. You have trade offs. More money due to being older or more energy due to being younger. Late twenties to early thirties is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:15 PM
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I think its pretty clear most people who are "bitter" have been treated poorly by actual people. Not due to some ratio. At very least they've constructed theories about the opposite sex due to literal interaction. You aren't seeing generalization. You are often hearing from people with life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:33 PM
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Is a "bad boy" toxic? Are women that fuck him considered toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:54 PM
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What is positive masculinity to women? I get all the "Not answers". Its not this and it's not that. I don't think anyone said it was. Not answer right there. Most of RP is slightly annoyed at women's nature to give these Not Answers. Because the other side of the coin is that women, when pressed to give an answer, just explain how a girl should act. Which doesn't help in getting women to sleep with men. Which is the take away I get from this post. Women will call positive masculinity things that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:43 PM
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I'd love to hear both sides. What women deem positive masculinity and toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 07:24 PM
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I've thought for some time women, that don't get men, will fail men for being inadequate women. This just kind of supports that. Clueless women want men to be their type of man and their type of woman, clearly requiring men to be just about everything. Which gives these clueless women tons of "see I told you" points of failure when men inevitably don't live up to being a functional woman and an attractive man at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 06:35 PM
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Okay...so we cant say "not being murdered" is a benefit of anything. It should be reasonably expected that your spouse doesn't try to kill you. With no fault divorce, how much has changed with men and spousal support? Or is it still cheaper to keep her? My point being is it indirectly supporting shitty behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 08:27 PM
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I did, to a degree, but never fully. I could write books about how much I agree with you. They'd all be horror fiction. But the end result is men should never do this for women. And it pisses me off to no end to admit this. Women don't appreciate it. They feel they do theoretically. But when it happens...fuck that shit. Never, ever loose sight of your mission.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/20 05:39 AM
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And why do you think they haven't yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 10:33 PM
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I think there’s also a socialization element. Yeah, i'd believe that. I just think other guys didn't pull these dudes aside and give them the R-rated version. And they aren't going to get that answer from their mother either. Hell, it shouldn't be up to her to do so. So I can get why RP dudes think all women lied to them. And it's always reinforced by "that one girl" that rips their heart out. In general, women shouldn't be in the business of spelling it out for men and definitely not with guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 07:52 PM
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And I'd add some dudes such as myself couldn't articulate it with the front part of our brains. And that makes a world of difference. I've had plenty of guys give me that turned head look like they were a puppy I just whistled at when saying the "truth" in a purple tone. But they don't get it like women do because those men don't have men hitting them up left and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 07:23 PM
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Yes. Most people have a problem with RP tone. If you explain it in an inoffensive way, they tend to agree. The hard core blue guys are the only ones in the dark. Blue chicks get it, if course.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 06:10 PM
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Obviously men should worry about the effects. But only if you are considering committing. But at that point it's a part of a bigger whole in understanding someone at an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 07:05 PM
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Lol. Never been married with children before, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 04:06 AM
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Yeah, my indicators of success make my opinion invalid. Okay Mr. Gatekeeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:18 AM
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Man, I can't wait to go back to playing poker in my local poker league. I got one of my friends Far Cry 5 so we could play the campaign together. Twice a week we shoot the shit. I also just got a Golden-doodle puppy that looks like a poodle in a bear suit. That girl is going to be a nice jogging dog. More outside time to go along with the garage gym my wife and I have been slowly adding to. I call my Dad more often since we can't meet in person. Face time during thanksgiving on my wife's side. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:49 PM
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Gender ratios? No, man, I just try to notice who shows up. Those are your actual friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 02:25 PM
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I think, similar to the word "love", friend is used way too often when they are just acquaintances. I look around every time I have to change brake pads on my BIL's F350, build decks, move people, build an outhouse, cut wood for camping, shoot guns or otherwise do shit that's inconvenient. Maybe shooting guns a girl will show up. The rest are men. Also, I've never had sexual feelings for friends. Thats...not a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 12:45 AM
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Its an odd feeling when TRP is consistently more honest than blue men. You'd think I'd be used to it by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 11:25 PM
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Like any "strategy" against someone else's poor judgement, we can give a canned statement like this. Theory is cheap. If one's goal is to preserve and maintain a monogamous relationship, it's a bad strategy to be controlling and emotionally abusive. You talk about it from the man's position as if women don't do anything wrong. And when its brought up, it's "your in a toxic relationship and you should dump them". Again, obvious. But these men have to navigate all this. And I get the impression yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 09:02 PM
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In theory, I agree. Do you not believe some men are going to pull this strategy on women? And do you think its successful enough that these men continue to play this strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:29 PM
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I get that. And without a marriage license, it shouldn't go to arbitration or resolution. There's no agreement. None. Look, we've had this discussion and we both don't agree marriage is a contract, so why are you bringing up a constructive contract now? Its not a contract. No one formally entered into said "contract".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 09:52 PM
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Because women can't be adults...So yeah, its sexist all around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 08:31 PM
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Look, like you said, "don't do that". You think that list is getting smaller or larger for men? why shouldn't the state (where it does) treat it as a marriage which is a ready made framework for settling disputes regarding the breakup of households Uh, because no one agreed to shit other than move on in. No marriage license was signed. Ultimately, that's making people pay for effectively playing house. So what fucking business is it of the states to get involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 08:29 PM
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That's up for women to say, not for you to say for all women. And not for the government to say either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 08:25 PM
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Translation - women need protection from men not giving women a benefit...dude, how do you not see this as trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:43 PM
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Needed to protect women from men unwilling to commit and waste the best years of a woman's life. Women don't need that kind of protection. They're adults and can leave men that don't commit. Its kind of sexist to even say women need protection from men LITERALLY unwilling to do something for women. This is a SipsSparklingWater level answer right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:40 PM
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Shouldn't exist in this day and age. Another idea that means you don't have to have an expressed agreement to actually be something. Consent to sex is consent to be a father. Consent to live together is consent to be married. Like, wtf? Yeah, okay, we live in a man's world, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 07:11 PM
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And I'm sure there were similar conversations about radio shows as apposed to TV shows. Reading books and playing INTERACTIVE media will have at least some ROI in relation to watching TV, which is completely passive. Hello multiplayer...very social. I don't think is healthy to expect you need to be "creating value" every waking moment. Besides, reading Jurassic Park and playing the video games back in the day brought me to writing horror novels. Its enriched my life in more ways than I can count…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 05:27 PM
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None of this has made you wise. Just mentally ill. And what does your brother being a ranger have to do with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 01:13 AM
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Giant unchecked, and unchallenged ego. Stay here a while, we can cure that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 01:00 AM
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Men largely don’t give a fuck about understanding women if it means they won’t get to sexually exploit us on their terms so fuck your “middle ground”. This is just flat wrong. You just fail them because they don't care like a woman cares. Again, misandry. Part of that systematic sexism you people all talk about. You're part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:49 PM
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So women tend to use victimhood as their reason for misandry. I was bullied in school when I was young, got into fights and generally had to defend myself from assholes. For no reason also. So? Welcome to party, pal. That's not an excuse to be misandrists. But I get you'd hide behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 07:47 PM
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Lol. Well, a good faith attempt at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 03:25 AM
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I find it weird that people haven't noticed this yet. I got a theory that you can't move to the balance middle without understanding both sides. So it'll be impossible for most sexist people to actually understand their "opposition". This stops all progress that isn't technological.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 02:48 AM
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Its odd that they have the same kind of rationalizations too. Chauvinist pigs looked down upon women for being inadequate men and now misandrist women have looked down upon men for being inadequate women. They are the same shitty sexist person living in different times. I just think it's fairly insidious when it's under the name of "diversity".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 02:23 AM
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If it's one thing I learned you have to learn to stop being so sensitive, which leads to arguing better and then meeting someone who'd kung fu is better AND THEN realizing where you're wrong. These weak and sensitive newbies are boring and it makes PPD less enjoyable and entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:42 PM
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Why the fuck are people downvoting so much? Is there not a rule against that bullshit? Do you peeps understand you are essentially losing by tapping the mat?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:22 PM
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Do you have your own kids? Yes if yours. No if not yours. No one needs to spend a second understanding that; its obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 02:39 PM
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When a girl throws out the sexists card it clear they cant even deal with the reality of men and women. I guess FDS is not at all compatible with long term relationships. If it was it would show some semblance of understanding of how to achieve a successful ltr. But what would any of you girls know about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:46 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:31 AM
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No, that's not at all what I'm saying and I'm confused as to how you ended up there. Look up how to deal with a shit test if you'd like on how to deal with shitty behavior from your girl. What world are you existing in. This was "do my jeans make me look fat". Not "you piece of shit man how dare you challenge my vagina like that!" Seriously, where are you getting any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:31 AM
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The chances that she'll find such a man sexually attractive are remote. Maybe I missed it in their sex section. How much info is about sex IN a relationship in order to continue being in a relationship? Because...that's telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 11:29 PM
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Why are people going to try to do better if that just means everyone is going to be mad at them the rest of their lives for no longer being a doormat or a slut. Because those men now have the responsibility of your new choices. Women have a very hard time understanding that when they "up their standards" it usually means men have to over pay for those women. And it also means they'll restrict themselves while wanting something better. To clarify, they get into a relationship AND THEN restrict. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 11:22 PM
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I will too. But I lead all this with treat your mother well because no other women is going to love you like she does. He's got to know he can't turn gfs into Mom 2.0. Eventually, all this will click "naturally" and he won't be so lost with the crazy shit. Because you know some woman is going to be like "yeah, I kissed that random guy but that's all I remember and it meant nothing." And I know who he's going to be calling for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 11:08 PM
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Well, I think introducing this to him has the highest chance for him to enjoy life. My oldest son was extremely shy like his mother. It was fairly easy to get him to be assertive due to MRP's When I Say No I Feel Guilty. And he's only 10. This will allow him to NOT be steam rolled by women in his life and other guys. That alone is priceless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:55 PM
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You'll get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:35 PM
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Agreed, and yeah, fuck I don't like the conclusion either. But I have two sons that kind of need to understand all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:34 PM
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Yes, this is part of men that just get it. How many times have you taken energy out of your day to explain the obvious to a woman you were involved with? Well...sadly, very few women I know can articulate this. VERY few. Men don't say "we want a woman that just gets it" because that usually annoys women or they think they do, but they clearly don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:30 PM
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I find it funny that RP laments against women with "high body counts" while simultaneously hating women for taking time and getting to know a man before she beds them. That's because you are misunderstanding them. They don't at all hate women with high N counts. They want to fuck them. They however tell men to avoid giving COMMITTMENT to high N count women. Literally VERY logical as we clearly understand the risk involved with such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:18 PM
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But since this is a retarded position to take, I don't understand anyone saying it. Then you don't understand very many men. A lot of them will come to this conclusion and its rational for men to think. Luckily, FDS tells it's users to STFU about their past and they really should. But let it slip and you'll give a man the impression that you view them as lesser. I saw you give money to xyz this way so you owe me this too Would you like to know a man let another woman live with him for free but h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:07 PM
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Unless TRP upped their game with dealing with comfort tests, I like MRP better. But they are both important so...to each his own. FDS...man, they kinda got the same problem TRP does. They take hostages rather than learn how to be fucking awesome. FDS just seems to be about falsely inflating their value. And that clearly attracts man babies. Obviously, the first part about not flinging their vag everywhere works. But what they'll do is lock the pussy up when the secure commitment. Once again, ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:12 PM
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Sounds like she neutral to it and goes with you because you want to. That's good. Maybe you don't like her lack of enthusiasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:53 PM
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i geel like I'm good at leading until i get some push back and then I'm too disagreeable even if i want to know what my gf wants genuinely. And that might be all your gf is looking to do. To see if you will lead or grumble.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:36 PM
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Pour over MarriedRedPill and askMRP looking for applying comfort or passing comfort tests. Read about D.E.E.R. because it'll help you not beat a dead horse and you'll be able to pick your fights better. Reread any and all Jack10ofhearts, I think that's the user name or its something like that. You'll come across him one way or another. And it might be counterintuitive, but read When I Say No I Feel Guilty. And read it as many times as you need to start seeing where you escalate shit needlessly. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:23 PM
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You still haven’t connected your points about communication styles for giving criticism to the OP’s point about the timing of when you share important information about yourself and whether you lie about yourself in the early stages of dating. Well, shit, early stages of dating isn't a job interview. You're just getting to know each other. How is anyone going to share something so personal with a stranger? You literally have to know them in order to understand how they communicate and how you sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:43 PM
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You decided I failed the test? She decided. You bombed so bad she told you she's not coming to you for comfort. Sometimes you gotta be cruel to be kind. Okay. And women will fuck some beta because they couldn't get comfort from their asshole bf or husband. It happens ALL THE TIME and looks exactly like this. We often say AF/BB and women will routinely say they want that in the same person. Women need comfort like men need pussy. But hey, you probably don't have to worry, you've got her trained.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:36 PM
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Begins to do the expected pout thing Test failed. Look, they are not very flattering on you Going for the F minus rather than the F. If you want honest feed back, ask me, if you don't, then don't but I'll never lie to you about this sort of thing. You could have said if it makes you feel fat then how about we get a gym membership. She's not stupid, she understand what it means "yes you are fat, but he loves me and is sparing my feelings." Men fail to play the long game. They fail by failing many…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:11 PM
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As I said somewhere else in this post. The most important concerns for a guy is to catch specifically what his girl is saying. He can apply his own life rules as to how he's going to approach it. And if he's concerned about a long term relationship he'll answer to his girl personality. Good on both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:02 PM
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I feel like you're implying that there's a universal "correct response" to questions like that Your feelings are incorrect. The most important concerns for a guy is to catch specifically what his girl is saying. He can apply his own life rules as to how he's going to approach it. And if he's concerned about a long term relationship he'll answer to his girl personality. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with your misinterpretation of what I said either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:00 PM
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Fine. Go ahead and tell me what you specifically said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:49 PM
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Its a "can you pass a shitty comfort test".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:49 PM
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Most of the radically honest men are single too. Well, no shit, for the exact reason I explained. To most people, radical honesty is synonymous with social ineptitude. Well don't start walking back into generalized psychobabble on this one since you just threw out the "complicated and nuanced" card. I think it's more complicated and nuanced than that. Yes, but you clearly don't fundamentally know how or why. Because this shit should be obvious to you. Married men or men in long relationships kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:41 PM
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Yes there are many men like that. This does not negate what I've just said. And yes, due to how men dont want to hear it, they will get offended. There's nothing less sexy than a women who says you suck at sex. And I haven't missed anything. You aren't catching that men an women need to use a complementary style that communicates what you need to without being a cruel bitch about it. But go ahead make sure you call them insecure. That'll inspire them to try harder and to like you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:23 PM
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Your feelings are incorrect. Most of the radically honest women are single. They're offensive and if too direct men clearly think them bitches. Because they are. And women are clearly okay with men lying to them. Most of them are fine so long as you don't grovel when caught. That's why passing shit tests are so important. To make sure the dude isn't a giant aggravated pussy. Learning how to state your opinions without lying or being too insensitive is a critical communication skill. Specifically…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 06:04 PM
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Way to avoid the issue here. We both talk directly and I've heard far more of that shit then I've given out. So why are you making women out to the the good guys on this? Women clearly wear their hearts on their sleeves because they want to point out where they don't want you to be honest. Should I be honest about what I think about her insecurities? I mean, c'mon man, haven't you ever had a woman ask if her ass looks fat in them jeans? YOU think we should approach that with honesty? And do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 05:42 PM
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Repulsed? No. Look, it's pretty clear women are going to recoil if you are critical of them. So men have to curtail how they communicate. Just the other day my wife commented on how terrible I was at putting up Xmas lights. Said they looked like poo. Fair enough. I'll fix it in the next few days and make them more even. 15 years ago I told her that her ironing skills were terrible. I still haven't been able to get her to iron my clothes. I wouldn't wrap this around being dishonest. Perhaps not h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 05:33 PM
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That said, there have been plenty of studies put out saying that couples that split chores are more likely to divorce, so pick your poison. The only thing my wife and I ever fought over. And I KNOW we got the chores more or less equal. They get divorced because women are always looking for where the husband isn't doing his fair share. And when you win that argument, they lean back on emotional labor...which we have zero ability to measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 09:15 PM
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Obviously, I think that answer is somewhere in between. Just from divorce court, there is very little reason for men to marry. Given child support laws, there's very little reason for men to knock a woman up and every reason to get a paternity test. Oddly enough I'm starting to see some women say enough is enough with you low value bitches. So its not just men getting clued into the fact this isn't anywhere near equal. Everything, starting with culture will need to change. I do believe it will r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 09:11 PM
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Marriage is a test on humanity. What I assume to be the building blocks of a stable society. Its a serious issue that women can't find the right type of guy to marry coupled with men clearly seeing how terrible the prospects of marriage are. But maybe I'm just getting older and it's not really that apocalyptic if men and women aren't going to marry much in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:04 PM
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Its not unnecessary shaming. But I can see people thinking it is. Back in the 90s Dean Kootz was the junk food. Stephen King was the prime rib. The level of skill with both authors was above a certain skill set. No one is criticizing the readers of 50 Shades of Grey. This shit sells. The discourse does not extend onto the viewers or readers. Most know this because an author does not choose their audience. And this is why SJW fiction is not doing very well. They are attempting to write for a cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:19 PM
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Fan fiction is fine and has it's place as free material for others to enjoy. It, however, looks like Game of Thrones when you incorrectly apply it; taking one of the greatest shows of all time into a absolute unsatisfying shit show. And yes, it should be shamed. The material is not good enough and the writers need to improve. So either keep fan fiction where it belongs or gamble at what could be a very costly bomb.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:50 PM
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One of my favorite characters of all times is Ripley from Aliens. The uncut version. Due to the events of the first movie, she missed her daughters entire life. This is the main motivation for saving Newt throughout the movie. Its realistic and you can just sit down and go, yep, a woman would subject herself to that kind of horror to both redeem herself as a mother and protect a child. Its not girl power either because that woman is absolutely terrified the whole time. No Mary Sue here. All the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:29 PM
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I wish more men took the time to understand women. It a real wtf moment when you start noticing it in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:47 PM
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To worsen this fact, when women REALLY fuck up, they rationalize their shitty behavior after the fact so they can merge it with their running narrative that they are the good girl. Ex- I cheated in Cancun because I didnt know how to break up with my bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:33 PM
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People aren't going to go out of their way to prove themselves to you when they didn't personally do anything wrong. You're just telling people not to trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:03 PM
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Well I think you aren't listening at all. This answer clearly says you won't believe men either way. Even the right answer is just a setup...holy fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:42 AM
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Uh, 2...has merit? What reality are you living in? It's so ambiguous that it's both the greatest liberator of women and nothing at all when discussing all the damage it did. Egalitarianism doesn't need a feminine title. It should be gender neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:03 AM
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I thought the left was all about science...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:15 AM
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Jesus, our species is never going to advance if that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:58 PM
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Wait, so just books? Like, no actually getting to know women irl? Of course with actual women. Part of my job was public speaking at the time. I've talked to thousands of people. Here in the states and in Europe. Hell, even then, there will be a limit to how closely you can truly "understand" something you have never experienced. Its enough to be useful and predictive. Not 100 percent, but enough to be useful. Look, women want a man that just gets it. I just think women don't like what it looks …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:43 PM
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Men generally find a larger amount of body types sexually attractive. Its a loaded question to say prefer. As you might have noticed the statement "men will fuck anything with a wet hole" has some truth to it. Women cannot say they are sexually attracted to a wide amount of body types. They almost always sexually "prefer" the top tier of men. Even though the do settle all the time. And most men clearly want to take care of women. Most women don't want to take care of adult men that can't take ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:20 PM
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That's the kicker. They stand firmly for ambiguity; especially in your tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:43 PM
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I read nearly two feet of books along with countless submission on TRP and MRP over the last 6 or so years. These were clear indications that while there is overlap, we are fundamentally different. How many women can say that about men? How many women have worked that hard to understand men? Atlas clearly gets it. PlaneJane too and a few others. Now Atlas has been doing this quadruple the time I have and you can see by her answers, they align with what we've observed. We know through communicati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:59 PM
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Very sensitive too. I haven't seen this many downvotes since SipsSparklingWater.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:01 PM
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Well make sure you downvote and prove me correct. Most people, when they are extremely wrong, others ignore. But you want people to get pissed? Give them truth that isn't politically corrected. Women want to be mysterious. They aren't. Neither are men for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:34 PM
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We can all find killers and rapists. We can look at some war tribe in Africa that want to rape women. We can find all sorts of over lap. However, you'd be hard pressed to find women as violent as men on average. Men rape more on average. There aren't wild bands of women raping and murdering men. Serial killers are mostly men. You're premise seems to be, well there's some women that do it too. But the gravity and sheer number of men to women is very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:31 PM
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We understand enough that women are mostly predictive. No one wants to be a mind reader nor could they be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:04 PM
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I just like her. Didn't really matter. I like them all for the most part. My wife is far more attractive. That didn't really matter either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:53 PM
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I caught her cheating, kicked her out of my apartment and she went homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:51 PM
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With little life experience so he falls back on what he's tought.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:48 PM
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Thanks for proving my point. Yes men tend to be more violent and rapey. Clearly different in nature than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:47 PM
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Plenty. Dated one through most of college. My long time friend is married to one and has taken care of her through years of health problems. About 3 army guys in my last job. All started out living with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:43 PM
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Why are you doing a CMV in bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:38 PM
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...C'mon. Surely you've seen some female hotties loving up on some fatties out in public, right? Just pass all those romance novels. Point out the cover that has a long haired man with a beer gut and bitch tits, is standing heroically in the morning sunlight with sword in hand. Are you able to have a honest conversation with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:33 PM
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Well, one has a huge estrogen response to being emotional, and shock, shock, the other is a testosterone response to being emotional. You can't tell me on average they look the same. And at that point, I hope you don't think testosterone and estrogen are the same and have the same effects...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:30 PM
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What will happen if every man strives to be better, is the notch of date-ability will just move up. People with RP knowledge will excel. I get the inequality of these women. But they won't last forever as they'll price themselves out of anyone's reasonable expectations. And lets be honest, a simp is just a future RP guy. It's only a matter of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:26 PM
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I think these people are convinced everything is a social construct and can be changed. A fluid sexuality is often associated with females. So I can kind of see them coming to that conclusion. And not to be critical but women clearly have a difficult time understanding men in almost any fundamental way. Of course they'd believe there's no difference between male and female nature to a woman that can't understand men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:22 PM
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How many women do you know date, fuck and are sexually attracted to jobless, obese men that live in their mother's basement?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:18 PM
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There is a vast array of "states" between not interacting with women and simping for women. I totally agree with giving more advantages to men. While Jack and you might use RP knowledge as a source of rationale, I've seen men use it to fuel their fear. The whole point of RP was to dispel that fear or confusion and get laid more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:16 PM
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Historically women were little more than property. Not a reason to continue to do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:00 PM
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Ultimately, they do this in secret because its absolutely shitty. I'd love to see men sit down with their wives and give them OPs rationale. More importantly I'd love to see what those women would do. Dont be married at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:49 PM
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Your roommate doesn't like when your free attention is threatened. Other than that, I can't tell what clues you missed about the other girl. Probably has something to do with the blow. You all are at fault. This is why having female friends can be...problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:29 PM
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Given your response in this post. I'd ask you to consider not going to TRP and just work the MRP sidebar. Much more constructive and purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:11 PM
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Holy fuck. Dude, go over to MarriedRedPill and learn about the comfort tests that you are failing. Stop using anything RP until you fucking understand what you are doing. Just focus on being not fat and fun to hang around. Most of all, focus on actually doing your homework, because you aren't. Also, how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:46 PM
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And in the long run, you'll get less in return by giving those things up. As in if you stagnate, she restricts. However, when I said fuck it - weightlifting, gaming, poker, darts, camping, kayaking, fishing, shooting guns, building outhouses, decks, truck repairs, etc with the guys...the more friends you have and the more opportunities you get. Got me several jobs including the one I have now, and leads everyone around you into a better quality of life. Or, give up everything and be my coworker …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:25 AM
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Well said. Thank you. Unfortunately, every single alternative I've come across is feel good bullshit draped in vagueness They sound exactly like this Alfred guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:00 PM
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Do you disagree with how they describe the nature of women? Or do you disagree with the tone?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:06 PM
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Well that's very dunning cruger of you. Love these comments. They sound so much like corporate synergistic babble too, mostly because the person using it doesn't have a good grasp of the material...so of course it would look like that. You just end up being an example of what you accuse others of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:46 PM
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It really does seem that way. That's why I'm a fan of Rollo's full human experience. And that's why I use the example of men occupying the empty "gay closet". My concern is these men are trying to kill their attraction like a gay guy and we all know how that turns out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:42 PM
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LMFAO!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:03 PM
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You are failing to understand men and being defensive. Something at your age, you should know due to life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:00 PM
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We'd have to be mind readers. You'd have to, in the most basic of ways, understand men...How is this something you're confused about at 54?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:50 PM
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This isn't what's happening so your whole premise to this question is wrong. Sounds like projection on OP's part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:38 PM
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Why do I get the feeling this is "Hey, here's a dishonest question, honest answers only and only the ones that fit my narrative".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:28 PM
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So when I got to MarriedRedPill and TheRedPill, I immediately knew they were correct. Before that, I listened to women and I paid attention to what they did so I could never resolve the two. Made me feel like I was going nuts. This shit was on the tip of my tongue yet I couldn't use the front part of my brain to get a clear picture. And with everything I had experienced with women, TRP and MRP had an exact answer. Didn't have to verify it. It explained every interaction, break up, and why my shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:21 PM
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Here's my worry. Men and women have some pretty big differences. I'd be concerned men would see this and incorrectly apply their own psychology onto women; aka projection. Perhaps women just want the attention, their bored, their bipolar messes. I'd be wondering how this test allows a guy to resolve the fear he might have of women rather than put his efforts into keeping his head in his own "frame"...and I hate that term btw. But by running an experiment that might make it more difficult for men…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:07 PM
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Okay, so this is a serious question...why are people running experiments to check if water is in fact wet? What purpose does this serve in your own head?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:51 PM
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About 15 years ago I nearly got shot by my ex-fiancé because I found out she was cheating and confronted her about it. What should men do in that position? Run faster than a bullet?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:48 AM
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If these guys ran the sidebar on MRP, they'd all be fairly prepared to deal with all this stuff. But they'd rather avoid the tussle all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:23 AM
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Here's the thing...the moment you want to have women around, you're going to have to navigate an individual. Like, learn who they are as an individual. You're golden rules aren't going to allow any of that because it's some sort of war drum that pits you against her. This is a list to go your own way and give your girl the impression she can't come to you for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:59 AM
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These men may be missing the basics but TRP ain't it. Ain't it for you. How they choose to accomplish this is up to them. I always thought being a good person would be enough. That having courage, assertiveness, honesty and humility was needed. However, not everyone attains these things nor do they get treated with it in return. Men find TRP and MRP for that reason. Most of them fucked up. Most of them were treated very poorly. And until women or other blue men can get a better answer, TRP and M…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:52 AM
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Admittedly, my home life was very stable and as a child, I had a good social life and self worth, so I don’t understand what many young men of TRP have been through. If you really want to find out what kind of hell some of those guys went through, spend some time there. However, if you've never had serious issues with both yourself or your wife, then I'd hold off judgement. I'm assuming you are young, don't have children and aren't married. That's a lot of "things" that can go very wrong. And wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:47 PM
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And below is the top comment. This is their response to that idiot. Most of the comments are telling him he's a failure and how to fix it. SO YES, these young idiots should be taking MRP advice because it's fairly balanced. I am concerned about your ability to be honest in all this though. Or at least your reading comprehension. You cheated on your wife and not only did she forgive you, but she still fucks you regularly? Count your blessings and be grateful. Being a good husband and father is st…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:17 PM
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The phenomena you're describing are rare. How old are you? I'm 40 and I see it all the time. Its common enough to be called Divorce Rape. Simply talking about mandatory paternity tests is a good way to get into a argument. I wouldn't minimize either one though. They're both important for a society to address and adults shouldn't be in the business of playing victim Olympics here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:51 PM
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Careful now. You don't want to sound like the red version of a liberal retard either. It was clear to me a few years ago that TRP's top motherfuckers dropped the ball when they called out JP. And the response was a resounding shut the fuck up. TRP had an opportunity to understand how to advance in all this. They failed miserably. Hope you don't make fun of the left "eating its own" because this is what it looks like when RP gets rid of potential allies. That keeps RP observations from spreading …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:48 PM
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TRP only represents a tiny portion It won't be for too much longer. MRP will solve just about every problem husbands have with a shitty wife. We all change throughout live and its extremely beneficial to men to understand what women are specifically attracted to. So this silly generalized response is only beneficial to men who don't need help...thus not at all helpful or valuable information.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:08 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:49 PM
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I know, I was being sarcastic. Anyone who watches his videos knows he's as middle ground as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:48 PM
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Tone is harmless when no one is calling for violence. Hurt feels is not a valid reason. So who is pretending here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:33 PM
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men describing themselves as mgtow without using the terms, in response to an OP of essentially "anyone else just give up on dating". This is what kinda annoys me. Women clearly have a problem with tone. I think that's why political correctness became such a big thing. Which is really weird because I've seen VERY liberal people call anyone who isn't as liberal as them a Alt Right Nazi...as if to suggest they are a hate group. These men are about as radicalized as Jordan Peterson. They just don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:56 AM
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Its a betrayal on either side. I once had a married "friend" that said it wasn't cheating if you fucked a prostitute because that was little more than jerking off. We are more aggressive than women. Should we be going around beating people up because men are more biologically predisposed to violence? The consequences are still the same. The rationalization of cheaters to make themselves feel better is still the same. The mental paths men and women take are different but the destination is still …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:26 AM
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I'm all for pointing out where women fuck up, but what the fuck? If anything, culture changed it. THEN law started backing it up. Divorce court keeps it reinforced. At least in my mind. Weak men who couldn't put their foot down is equally complacent in all this. Giving women basic human rights is the cause? Are you out of your mind? Of course I don't know about you, but can you imagine the absolute pain in the ass owning women would be like?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:13 PM
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Did you read anything I wrote? Holy smokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:37 AM
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I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:33 AM
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Their vary maintenance heavy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:52 PM
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Quiet a bit. I'm a bit of a verbal slut. I talk to husbands too. Much more positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:37 PM
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Yes. She'd probably be making the same amount of money she did back then. Her pay was that shitty. I'm indifferent to her education level. It's nice but just like I didn't care before, I don't really care now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:55 PM
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I just don't hear lots of wives complement or brag about their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:49 PM
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Another indication of character. Is she as miserable as she is ungrateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:18 PM
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Bet she's the only one who married an UMC guy. Yes. She couldn't, at the time, afford it without me. Now, I could have been more of an asshole and come to the conclusion she's a loser give how much she was struggling. But then I was raised by a stereotypical UMC mother that's had WAY too much plastic surgery and is addicted to Oxy and Methadone. Given that fun experience, I would like to think my wife's character was more important rather than OP's version of what she finds successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:11 PM
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No man or woman who grew up from the suburbs with college educated parents will naturally marry someone who's from the trailers/ghetto and from a family of high school dropouts. She's from a family of...with is your original point, now you are changing it. The exception is not the rule. What exception? You say there's 3.5 billion women, so none of what I've said or you've said means anything about men or women in general...This is a very lazy way for you to dismiss things though. Either way, wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:45 PM
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I see women pick losers ALL the time. For a short fling. And many of them think they're "settling" with their husbands ALL the time with a ton of reasons as to why they are settling. But they stay with them because they want what husbands provide for them. Its dishonest to me that these women both stay with their husband and then think they are doing their men a favor by sticking around. It's just that successful women are bitchy or just that men are intimidated by successful women. Men don't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:11 PM
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I personally don't think it is shallow because you are still looking for something in her. Its shallow if you are looking down on people in this manor - Yes, women don't want a deadbeat who has no job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:47 PM
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When I met my wife, she was losing her roommate and couldn't afford her apartment. Had nearly balding tires on her vehicle and couldn't afford the asthma inhaler she needed, even cried in frustration over it. I thought she was great. If the situation was in reverse, a woman would want that man to grow up. I don't think we're the more noble sex, but if I bought into true equality and had OP's mindset, my wife would have been shit out of luck. Imagine me calling her a deadbeat over it. Instead, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:39 PM
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that's just daft And yet thats literally what they think. you're looking at this the wrong way and assuming that men are orchestrating this... It would require feminists to see it from mens perspectives rather than a victim mindset trying to put themselves into the perspective of a male aggressor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:52 PM
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This is why I firmly set TRP as a sexual strategy. The adoption of it or any idea as an ideology makes people blind as fuck. They cannot see what's right in from of them. Its also quiet clear women have a HUGE problem understanding men in the most basic of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:45 PM
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I lived in Europe for about 4 years. Lived in Winnweiler, Germany near Kaiserslautern. We traveled to damn near every country we possibly could. Its self evident there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:29 PM
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Have you never ever been to walmart? Tons of fat girls with men half their weight. Seriously, any amount of observation makes this self-evident. Do you seriously conjure up some image in your mind of Joe Dirt when someone says "Gold digger"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:22 PM
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One day the woman changes jobs to earn 70k. Suddenly the man is hypergamous. Hypergamy does exist. You are conveniently using an example that doesn't make sense to support your position. My wife now makes a little more than I do. I made significantly way more than she did in the beginning. That obviously was a factor for her and her poor ass wasn't a factor for me then. The fact that she starts making more than me doesn't make me hypergamous because she got a pay raise. I'd actually have to be l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 04:08 PM
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I know women like this. They wreck everything and end up alone and miserable. I get the distinct impression they're running from themselves and cant stand what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:33 PM
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Money has always afforded an opportunity to fix your shit. Seems like rich people rarely take the effort to fix themselves though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:07 PM
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You aren't listening. Women are very forgiving of their husbands in general. A couple of slipups? Mother fucker was married SEVENTEEN YEARS.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 07:01 PM
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You understand that Red Pill Praxeology was founded by men that didn't look like Brad Pitt, right? Shall we throw away the entirety of RP because it was created by men that were fundamentally flawed, short men that weren't very physically attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:58 PM
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Did he appear weak to you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:48 PM
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Because you have to account for most women getting married in good faith. And its damn clear a lot of women do marry in good faith. Gold diggers don't. You might look down on beta providers, but a lot of women want a provider. Even Patrice O'Neal knew this and played to his enormous benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:40 PM
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It isn't. Most wives will go to great lengths to give you the benefit of the doubt. Especially if your fucking rich as shit. Now, gold diggers...well thats a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:33 PM
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Sure. Like I said, shouldn't have married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:31 PM
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MRP is a balance as long as wives participate. You can't be a Raging RPiller and expect her to stay. You're required to stop being a druggie or drunk. And then yes all the rest. In the trenches, there's a ton of shit to deal with when it comes to wives from comfort tests to shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:31 PM
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No. It looks years for all these men. Had they followed MRP, perhaps it would have been different. Either way these instances really make a case for men to not marry. Which I personally dont really like, but that's the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:22 PM
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Short answer, they married. Their wealth makes them bigger targets than the average Joe, so you are seeing average results more clearly and more publicly. Also, this is more about divorce than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:14 PM
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Lmfao!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 03:33 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/jg1504/you_deserve_someone_who_takes_care_of_you/ I know all about this life. HBOC. My wife's lost a cousin and her mother to cancer. I've taken care of my wife and put her on a pain med schedule, washed her, brought her to the bathroom, and wrangled our kids while she recovered from a double mastectomy and subsequent breast reconstructive surgeries. She'll have her ovaries removed soon and I'm assuming she'll eventually die of cancer. We bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:15 AM
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your comment is just another example of a tone deaf male who thinks he understands women while he projects Went right over your head. Speaking of factual statements, can you admit men have helped women get to where they are today in the western world? Can you at least name one man that measurably helped women in general? How about Carl Djerassi or Gregory Pincus? Or is that not factual enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 03:45 AM
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Well, you got the white knights, but they want sex. So you don't count them. You got men who, by knowing women in their lives, care but well they won't start a crusade for all women. So you don't count them. Imagine wasting a life waiting for a VERY SPECIFIC narrow kind of empathy only women are capable because you've removed all other indicators of empathy you've deem insufficient....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 03:21 AM
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My wife makes more than I do. And I'm absolutely terrified in my 4 car garage working out in my full gym looking at my fathers fully restored 1971 De Tomosa Pantera. I would never have gotten this place without my wife and my powers combined...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:32 AM
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Men are terrified that women might treat them the way they've traditionally treated women. I know. Look I'm 40. Back in 1953 I had a wife that I kept having to pop in the face because I was like BITCH YOU CAN'T HAVE A JOB! More money isn't at all preferable to me or you! Without the sarcasm, how do you think men have traditionally treated women? Are you serious with that crap?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:27 AM
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Ever been on the receiving end of a gf or wife that thinks she's above you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 12:11 AM
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Good luck with this. Women will never see or understand how women treat a bf or husband they feel is below them. None of it involves steaks, bjs, and pleasantries of any kind. In fact, this is why MRP and TRP never have to advertise they exist. These women will point men in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 11:59 PM
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Dismiss the tone, fail to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 09:36 PM
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When women hear "she's not yours" they think men want to own women as property. In reality men want someone to care for and protect. What RP is doing is killing that part of themselves so they don't see women as anything but a vagina. So the same woman that says don't be a doormat and you can't control me are inevitably the one that will sing "where have all the good men gone" in her late to early thirties. Obviously, most men don't want to own or control you. That's absolutely retarded. But wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 06:52 PM
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Yeah alpha. Used wrong word.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:22 AM
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Women have super finely tuned radar when it comes to men showing any sign of weakness. I think a lot of women have become overly sensitive in failing men for perceived weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:28 PM
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Its still survival of the fittest. That will never change and shouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:16 PM
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So that men can start connecting why women are treating them like they do. So they can understand what is sexually attractive to women and what is comforting to women. Most men in TRP don't need any more beta traits. They need to increase sexually attractive traits. This idea of delineating the two is what starts clueless men into the realm of "sexual strategy". If your husband stopped alpha traits, he'd be completely cut off from sex and the quality of your sex life would plummet. They don't un…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 10:07 PM
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Its the most basic ideas of RP. You literally have to actively avoid TRP to misunderstand that this is common RP knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:59 PM
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To add, when it comes to men, this is very important to understand when considering marriage or a long term LTR. The alpha fux beta bux is extremely predictive in how women will treat a guy depending on "where he is on the spectrum". Men can more easily navigate their life and women with a clear understanding of Alpha and Beta. But there will always be some woman or blue dude who doesn't like the tone or thinks it's offensive thus unhelpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 09:52 PM
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So you have zero relationship experience? Who have you attracted in the past? edit:...dude, your post history...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 08:14 PM
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I have a Bachelor of Arts Not fuckable, men mostly don't give a shit. a full time career at a top tier firm as an exec legal assistant Not fuckable, men mostly don't give a shit. However, you won't be a monetary burden. I’m studying for my LSAT Not fuckable, men mostly don't give a shit. I have a very small circle of high quality female friends Tomi Lauren is single for a reason. Value value. What's your relationship history? Do you have time to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 08:12 PM
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I haven't looked to closely and FDS lately. Are you saying they just learned to "con" better? Surely they have self-improvement as part of their sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 08:03 PM
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What in gods name are you talking about? Stop being a weirdo. This is exactly how my wife did this. She thrives, we thrive. I thrive, we thrive. Together. I dislike equality because the women who measure it always fail men for not being "woman" enough. They fail to appreciate men just like how TRP fails to appreciate women. Your "toxic" response is precisely why woman should have high standards in themselves first and others second so they step away from this equality bullshit. It is literally b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 07:59 PM
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You can attempt to get the right partner by avoiding all attempts at equality and being the high standard. If you aren't valuable to men it wont matter what your standards for men are. Also, you'd have to define what men see as a good spouse; not what women project on to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 04:31 PM
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If ever there was a question that indicated that most women were absolutely clueless about men, this would be it. That OP might be a dude....oh boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 03:44 PM
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Lol! Ever asked a girl pal to the gun range? Help building a deck? Call her about what you need to do when changing the rotors and brake pads on your Ford F150? Ask to borrow her impact drill? I'd think women would be offended they aren't being treated like one of the guys...And yet they never show up for me. I can name 5 dudes that would help me right this second.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 01:08 AM
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They're super sensitive at first. But I see it as a win; like a guy tapping the mat when he's been beat. Also why I never downvote. Its an admission I've lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/20 12:18 AM
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MuTron, what's the most terrible thing a gf or wife has done to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:48 PM
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You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:17 PM
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How old are you? Its seems maybe I've hit a nerve and you don't like the way it makes you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:11 PM
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Perception is reality. I absolutely agree. So why have such boundaries? A few women here are saying that's controlling and that men should be able to trust their women. If you'd give your husband a side-eye, are you controlling and don't trust him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 10:09 PM
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Women misunderstand these things. Like I said...A friend that wants to fuck you isn't a friend. Its god damn creepy. Only a fool would call out a SO who's warning you over the creepy dude that's got ulterior motives. And to continue to interact with such a person makes you look bad as well. You can't be that naïve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:59 PM
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Her view is fairly naïve. Men are mega horny all the time. And if you're an attractive women...whew. I worked in Germany for 4 years. The last year, I worked with a mid-twenties woman that was clearly a 10. She was absolutely terrible to work with, but I got to see a HUGE revolving door of men that came to see her every day to shoot the shit. It got to the point I wanted to move out of the room because it was such a fucking distraction. And she clearly had no idea at all, because "she was marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 09:46 PM
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Sure. We all need to learn how to "girl" or "guy" better. Just like OP is more comfortable with the opposite sex because he can't "guy" better, some women need to learn how to make female friends. That means not being so offensively blunt. My wife is like that. But if women have more guy friends, its not a huge logical leap to understand most of those men will tolerate you not because of who you are as a person, but because you're a girl they probably want to fuck. That's just men with testoster…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 08:10 PM
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When you got divorced, how many male friends let it be known they wanted to get with you? Edit: huh. All the girls say men and women can be friends!...until you ask the right question under obvious consideration...then its well "in principle but in practice yeah no". Watch, not listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:56 PM
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This too me is indicative of a big problem for OP. You do understand the point I'm trying to make. You are just seeing it from the female perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:51 PM
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Women misunderstand these things. My wife once had a male friend that clearly wanted to be more than friends. She said "You don't have anything to worry about". And I said, I'm only worried that it makes you look bad to me. Its disrespectful to keep "male friends" around when they want you. Major's bf sees it a mile away. Men lose a lot of trust in their women when they fail to comply with some obvious pitfalls. Do you think women are exempt from showing their men they are trustable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:48 PM
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female energy bc it's the closest thing he can get to a girlfriend. Lack of dude energy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:40 PM
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Alternatively, these kinds of guys struggle to "dude" well too. Which is exactly whats keeping them unfuckable. Using chick strategy on a chick keeps all the clothes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:38 PM
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This post is about him saying its okay to have friends of the opposite sex and that it's fine. And yes, generally speaking it is. 4 years without a girlfriend and he clearly wants to be in a relationship that includes sex... So he's wasting his time being best friends with a girl that's not going to be is girlfriend. So in his case, he clearly SHOULD care about having female friends. We have met each other's parents, go on small trips together, make sure to see each other at LEAST once a week an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:32 PM
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Not to shame or anything, but this post is probably why you have trouble getting girls. They get free attention and you get zero percent laid. This is why TRP suggests NOT having women as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 07:09 PM
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We eventually start having boundaries as adults because fuckery starts happening some where down the road. I don't think there's anything wrong with you two being good girlfriends to each other. And women will be okay with it because it's going to work for women in general. All you need is a few "things just happened" comments before you start seeing maybe we should have have boundaries. Maybe not right away, but definitely when you get married. It sends the wrong messages to your spouse. Which …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 06:53 PM
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For women to understand equality they'd have to understand men. If PPD has shown me anything, it's that they absolutely don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 06:39 AM
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I wonder if women are beyond understanding men. This is so obvious that any women who says she's an empathetic person should be mortified for not "just getting it". I've seen this distilled many times over on PPD and yet it's calculus to a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 06:31 AM
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This is why I like MRP's sidebar and lifting requirements. There's a huge mental change men need to go through and this surface level shit from dating coaches just doesn't reach that deeply. And when you aren't shallow, you can approach women to see them as people rather than a host of logical "if then" statements like a damn robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 11:01 PM
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And yet they devise very effective tools to sexual strategy. And the nature of women is easily explained. Deny it to your hearts content. But its pretty damn predictive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/20 01:39 PM
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Why, we want women that "just get it". Most women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 06:39 PM
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TRP pretty much used the scientific method to come up with most of its OBSERVATIONS. So if we are talking about science, sure. But we are talking about social interactions and so we need to fashion tools that work well enough. This idea where people need citations just tells me they don't have enough life experience to know what's accurate and what's not. As if their very mind doesn't want to critically think because what's presented to them is offensive and inflaming their ego. Most of all, bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 04:02 PM
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On something that is fairly self-evident? Does it need explaining? What do you think men go through when their women are pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 02:39 AM
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Do women find it sexually arousing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 07:42 PM
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No ones confused about the convo. Its so apparent what's happening. Women just don't like the tone of what men are saying about it...which is really the crux of most arguments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 07:41 PM
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Entangled doesn't more accurately describe the affair. Affair accurately describes the affair. I get they were on a break like some friends episode and I get he took her back for whatever reason. But she specifically used that word because she knows exactly how horrible it makes her look.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 07:29 PM
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...yes, which is why I broke it apart like I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:06 PM
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That's why I loved the Jada Smith entangled speech. At 50 plus that woman couldn't ever be accountable. Not even at 50 could she be an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 04:43 PM
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And how significant or accurate do you think polling surveys are?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:59 PM
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Could you imagine what would happen if someone released a study that might make women look bad? Or simply just measure the reality of all fathers married, single and divorced? And I'm not joking, I'm concerned it wouldn't be published.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:43 PM
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Men don't want to be forced into fatherhood. I think that's a very BIG point you are glossing over. I've had three kids with my wife. I have yet to see a woman or a mother articulate what fathers go through. Because if they could, they'd feel miserable about themselves. I like your stats. And it is central to men's identity, which becomes a really big fucking problem if women want to divorce them. I strongly suspect women use these stats all the time to show how husbands are all happy and live l…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:23 PM
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And that's for women to answer...and well if I go off of most women, the answer is no. Which is why I say its fairly one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:13 PM
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And yet its prevalent in most of my observations. Women just hide it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:12 PM
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I think you can have a moral code. I have an obligation to prepare my 3 children for the world. I have a wife and I am responsible for her as she is to me. I think dignity is important and make sure I'm not doing shit that would ruin that for me or my wife. But duty and honor are kind of out the window when it's fairly one sided. Do women have a duty to men? I doubt it. But do wives have a duty towards their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:59 AM
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Why would missing out on a full human experience be enlightening? That sounds very foolish, but some people think a life of hardship is just.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 03:51 AM
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My wife and I have a new house we're stuck in over this COVID thing. We drink margaritas while we watch the Broncos lose, watch the whole subdivision of houses get built from our back deck, wife orders gym equipment for our garage while I put up insulation because its fucking cold. I would do this all while single. But imagining doing it single seems utterly depressing. This is what I mean by low-key.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 01:18 AM
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I think it's worse than that. These men WANT to give up. They don't want to notice normal couples because they want to stay far away from women. Also, its pretty clear women need security like men need sex. Some women can get it from cats and a career like some men can just jerk off. The rest of us actually want and low key need the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:25 PM
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Some people want to wallow in drama. Also, some women have this fantasy of being a power couple. A lot of men don't want some pain in the ass. A lot of feminist women misunderstand this because they've chosen men that will treat them like a doormat so that's all they see in TRP. When in reality normal men don't want another women trying to be the guy in the relationship as those men have already taken that spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:47 PM
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And yet he doesn't help when she wants help. So its true no matter what you think SHOULD be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 03:34 PM
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Anarcho, do you understand men that aren't losers? Do you understand what makes women losers to men? Because it seems this is an absolute projection from someone who's easily failed to understand men past their cocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 05:03 AM
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Its...the other way around. Holy fuck...Women are as valuable as the men they can keep, not who they can fuck. How are you missing this? A woman who can't "keep a job" until she's in her mid twenties isn't worth, in ANY WAY, hiring. Let alone can't get a job until mid twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 04:52 AM
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With my middle child I got very little sleep for a few years. He's like me and has to keep moving, even in sleep. I've watch hundreds of hours of muted TV while bouncing him in the middle of the night. With my 3rd child, I just pinched her between me and the couch and fed her when she woke up. Did that the majority of her 1st year of life. I've easily done half of the diaper duty, night duty, and house work. For several years after I'd be half asleep, hear a baby cry and be half way to the door …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/20 12:58 AM
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Not that I disagree with you but men should NEVER settle down with a woman that holds this view. They will expect perfection from their men, but fail them because these men can't "woman" well enough. And at that point, they restrict all things men value in women. Men can be helpful with doing 50%. They however didn't campaign to be the alternate wife to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 11:38 PM
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Its not stupid, and I get what you're saying. Just understand the moment you start finding out this is a "buyer beware" market, you'll start seeing why its best to understand women, be assertive and to defend your expectations with consequences. Most women expect your optimism and effort as a base standard. You'll be in for a rude awakening if you think your effort and optimism will be returned to you by virtue of your good will. RP men that are out of the anger phase can afford their optimism. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 10:05 PM
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I believe we should treat each other with dignity. Much of TRP is pissed off dudes that allowed women to fuck them over. So it's best to understand the nature of women and how to be assertive. I'm purple. RP clearly understands women. I disagree with how it's used. All bets are of if I'm not treated correctly. BP ideals may not get when women fuck them over. Either way you can understand an unattractive truth and not kill your optimism. That's not so easy for a lot of trp guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 09:28 PM
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Of course. I dont think them evil either. But this is why you must understand how women will paint themselves in the most positive light even after the most biggest fuck ups. The answer is somewhere in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 09:13 PM
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One of the better outcomes of accepting the reality of women is to be free in who you are and how you defend your boundaries with women. OP will only lose ego. And nothing of value is lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 08:36 PM
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It scales with the amount of men willing to pay you, not the amount of work a girl puts into it per se. As I said. Though I doubt one is coding 16 hours a day or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:36 PM
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I'm always reminded of Patrice O'neal when women say stuff like that. I think its important to know the collective value of pussy when looking at something like onlyfans. Because there's no one woman worth the amount some are pulling in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:13 PM
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I imagine being a phonesex worker is much like trying to make a lot of money writing erotic fiction for men; the main "piece" is absent. The reason onlyfans is so successful is that anyone with a little clout and looks don't have to work very hard. And any girl with "clout" also does it for the attention. Ultimately, one is stepping away from the 9 to 5 job where you get two weeks pay for two weeks effort. It scales with the amount of men willing to pay you, not the amount of work a girl puts in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 06:08 PM
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate the amount of work in creating and maintaining an Instagram or Facebook account? And how much harder do you think a 9 to 5 desk job can be?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 04:27 PM
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But you're perfectly happy asking the question...which is it? You sound dishonest as fuck. Triggered people like you don't like the personal reflection TRp gives them. Sorry you made poor decisions; it's not TRPs fault. Just yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 02:38 AM
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Then go to TRP. Sidebar to the right. Do the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 01:27 AM
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Sure, a woman that knows how to balance things in her life, picks good partners to have babies with and generally makes room in her life for the people that love her. But those aren't the women RP is discussing. Women can be losers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 09:12 PM
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If she makes money, she’s a ball busting “careerist” Men don't want to be penciled in when dating women. Its unattractive to a lot of men. If she doesn’t make money & had kids at a young age She's a single mother (busy AF) and men don't want to be penciled in when dating women or objectified as a wallet and babysitter to other men's children. Its unattractive to a lot of men. This may be hard to understand, but there are consequences to life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 09:09 PM
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I have close to that 21 number and my girlfriend was very concerned about it Sure, because that's a threat to the commitment you've given her...still your gf though. Might want to look up Comfort Tests. TRP doesn't "neglect" this topic; its more like your knowledge of the material is limited.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 09:05 PM
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I don't think it's an exception either. I just want to see how dismissive someone will be when they are wanting to be challenged in a CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 02:10 AM
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...Are you upset that women don't want spineless men they can push around, that they can beat in every category that women find important? Seeing a pattern? That women are different than men. That many women (and men) that have strong ideology tent to be very untested world views. That they are naïve and uninformed of the opposite sex. When you stop listening to those people, you might start noticing women that are married to men that are less educated or make less money. They date and fuck men …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/20 12:15 AM
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Everything is a social construct This is the Left's version of "Praying the Gay Away". To deny that our social constructs aren't heavily influenced by our biology and nature is simply ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:13 PM
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Do what you wish. But is this how you reward good men, darling?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 04:22 AM
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Women dont give pussy for acting moral, which is the argument I'm putting forth. If women found it SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE, TRP wouldn't exist. TRP found out that women reward bad behavior. They find immoral behavior sexually attractive. But I suppose they find moral behaviours comforting...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 11:02 PM
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Do women sleep with men for acting moral?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:35 PM
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Probably told it a couple years ago, just not recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/20 10:25 PM
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So strong and so independent she needs tons of men...this "being a cuck" acceptance speech wont change the facts that theres a lack of self respect and dignity with whoever holds this mindset. But hey, at least it doesn't hurt anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/20 04:56 PM
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My mother has a friend. She lined up another guy at the age of 50 (20 years ago), thought it would work out and divorced her husband. At the time, we were all kind of like...wtf is she doing? She says she didn't like that he watched porn so she was getting rid of him now that her 4 kids were adults. So soon to be ex husband immediately gets a girlfriend. The guy my mother's friend wanted owned a real estate business she worked for and was also 50. Divorced, she finds out he's dating women 15 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 01:15 AM
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The intent is negligible. This is why its almost retarded to evaluate a qualitative person using quantitative values. And that's what I see whenever some newly "freed" red guy starts spouting "facts" here on PPD. Most adults start understanding how to "evaluate" a person at an individual level. Some however, don't have the life experience to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 05:12 PM
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Its the Tomi Lahren Syndrome. They're stamping their feet saying how they don't need it and I think they doth protest too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 02:00 AM
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They wouldn't even date. They'd fuck you though. I'm assuming you weren't interested it that. So "they" aren't hot enough for quick sex to you, and you aren't "relationship material" enough for them to give commitment. Men 101 and women's misunderstanding of men 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 05:21 AM
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Turned you down how? You don't make enough so I won't fuck you or you don't make enough so I don't want to be responsible for you in a relationship? Because men will take one look at your busy ass and see you have not time for them. I doubt most men will care if you live out of your car if it's just fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/20 02:07 AM
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100 percent paternity testing. I'd love to know the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:50 AM
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The fact that lilastr would play this card...how monumentally dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 03:25 AM
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Then don't play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:54 PM
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Simping is a whole new level of pathetic. I don't know if I should be offended or impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:28 AM
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Its their argument so that they can whine and complain. They don't intend to do anything with the information. Its like saying Survival of the Fittest is unfair and so they quit. So yeah, it sort of is...so? Should we collectively turn nature into HR for being sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 11:07 PM
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Uh....we've been doing this for years. But you caught us. Jolly good show.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 10:02 PM
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She's established. And I know she hates my rotten guts, so don't think I'm a fan of hers either. But no one knows who the fuck you are. No one will mistake you for Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:35 PM
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lmfao! Alberic, are you an attention whore?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:20 PM
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See, this is all you and your friends could ever do when trying to debate incels - resort to petty name-calling. To use your own words - "its the truth". So now that' you've told the truth and no one here is confused about what incels believe or that they exist. Go away. Go truth tell somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:16 PM
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Incels are losers. They know how to steer things towards the bottom of the barrel where they are most comfortable with. And I don't know what you mean by "people like me"? I'm ex-MRP, did all my TRP and MRP homework. I've been part of RP and PPD for years. I've probably forgotten more than you currently know. Silly incel. Stick to eating Trix.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:08 PM
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The sub would collapse and no one would come here. Loser's wouldn't even know what success looks like even if their behavior didn't get them banned. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Go ahead, make a Black Pill debate sub. Be the moderator since you seem to know how shit is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:58 PM
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Even when incels had their chance they fucked it up. The mods here are the best with the exception of a few calls about race or using specific communities to support one's position. So while not perfect, you're hard pressed to find a better set of mods to regulate two very confrontational and opposing sides. Lastly, incel's main argument is its the woman's fault. So I'm yawning at your very common answer. It is neither interesting or that accurate due to the absence of ownership incels have adop…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:51 PM
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I've yet to meet an incel that knew the material he's supposed to know, debate in any sort of good faith, communicate effectively when pressed or even be constructive. So this comment is so inaccurate I wonder what galaxy your consciousness lives on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:41 PM
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Derek's mindset makes everyone a loser, even when you win occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 06:47 PM
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Absolutely. Women should never be direct with men. The men expecting women to give honest advice FROM women never got honest advice from women before. Those men are fools. And women should never help fools.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:32 AM
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You ARE arguing tone policing. To suggest otherwise is pretty damn silly. You are trying to not offend. Young is trying to be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:52 AM
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You are arguing for tone policing. This is precisely why TRP exists. The military has made this a very effective tool. They break you down by calling you a fat ass lazy shit, make you run mile after mile and only give you a complement when you've actually earned it. Obviously, this is not women's job to do. But tone policing is the worst thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:35 AM
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Precisely. Women's existence is their feelings. They are their feelings. They are trying to help men feel better, but men want to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:22 AM
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I've been doing this a while. Its FUCKING clear that women don't understand men. Women are terrible at understanding any psychology that isn't their own. And men fail to understand women too. Women give terrible advice. Not on purpose, but by nature. Imagine a world where men know how women work. It would be fucking horrific for most women. At best, they give men advice to be the guys that are advantageous to women...because they had men that they bent over backwards for, gave everything to, onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 04:11 AM
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they just marry men who aren’t outdated chauvinist fools. This chick is the female version of the "outdate chauvinist fools". That's why she's single. Not that all conservatives that work at Fox News are sexist...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 09:58 PM
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Then they sit alone. I like how the answer is some variant of "doormat". As if women can't be adults and have boundaries on how their men treat them. Its as if women don't know how to sit in a damn seat correctly or be average adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:59 PM
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Most of the 'traditional' women I separate all these words. Liberal, feminist, traditional. I toss 'em. You got two seats - the girl seat and the boy seat. What seat does she sit in? She's the best man in her life and the only open set is the girl seat. No "valuable man" is going to sit in the girl seat. Thus, she's single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 08:14 PM
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she does whatever she wants. You can tell with her "make a plans" speech. "That ship has already sailed" bullshit just screams she's not there for you like you'll be there for her. Additionally, she's clearly acts like a dude and expects dudes to find her dude persona to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 07:33 PM
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Not that I disagree, but what do you mean "the lack of responsibility and self control of women is destroying the west". Like, how exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 04:01 PM
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His Frenchie post clued me into a problem at work when I lived in Germany. I've said it occasionally over the last few years but I still look at my LES statement and thank him for the insight. I would likely have been fired had I not read it. That and TheFamilyAlpha's relationship PTSD post are my top post from MRP. TRP is only a primer, but the real wisdom is from the trench warfare of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 08:04 PM
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The OP is saying she fears she missed out by not partying. Did she? I partied in college too. So did my wife. Some people plan their way through life. Don't know why that's some kind of virtue thing or puritan idea. I however can see when it ruffles feathers when it goes against the "you can have it all" observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 07:29 PM
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Lol! Sure, if you'd like. Hopefully, as a Bobo, I don't start choking on virtue popsicle sticks while thinking super uncivil things. You should up your poker game though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:26 PM
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I'm sure they did. They married the type of guy that went out with the party girls. I've see a few of those too. But given a long enough timeline, I think its a huge gamble. I use that example because I was so shocked at how "across the board" they all were at not having children and not being married even though they absolutely wanted both. Don't choke on the virtue popsicle dude. Yeeeeah, I'm not the one choking on it, goat. You are married, right? Otherwise I'd assume you resemble those women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 05:09 PM
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Then why in the hell are you asking this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:58 PM
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Most men aren't MRP. Most men who want to get married aren't what women want, so it makes sense you'd say "men do not necessarily want to settle down with the good girl". i frequently tilt my head and think super uncivil things about the weird trajectory of your thought webs Are you offended there was consequences to these party girls? Is that what annoys you? Aren't you married and have been for a long time? How is it normal for you to think most men view women as MRP men view women? Does your …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:48 PM
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Most men would easily be willing to settle down with such a woman. Like the type of guy that wants to take care of women would sign up to this type of woman. BUT! The moment you add this - she’s doing it more for stability than for lust, she’s approaching the wall, you aren’t exactly her first choice All but the most pathetic of men will scatter. These questions are interesting and seem to show just how little some women understand men in the most basic of ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 04:38 PM
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My wife's nick name in college was "Mara the Mom". ALL of her friends wanted to be married and have children. All of them were party girls. While she went clubbing sometimes they will all attest that my wife was too busy working and studying. I'm 40 now and my wife is 39. We have a bomb ass house that holds our three children. We've lived in Europe. We've done some pretty great things in under 13 years of marriage. BECAUSE she is disciplined. EVERY SINGLE friend my wife knew in college? None of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:38 PM
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Disciplined women are viewed as trustable. Relationship material if you will. This is different than a "career woman" that almost always prioritize the men in their lives in last place. That's why they are single and men don't want to date them. No one wants to be "penciled" in. I for example was raised in a military household Did your mother stay at home at any period of your childhood? The princess type that has fun asks questions later has plenty of options. It depends on what you want. A fam…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 03:20 PM
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No, they fail for personal reasons. And then blame all women as if they knew all women. This is called a lack of personal accountability. It may be the case there are many delusional women. But this is a separate issue from men failing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 12:27 AM
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Lamo! I failed at all this until I fixed it. Which is how I know. I'm no different from these men. I'm just further down the road. Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:51 PM
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Yes, I'm agreeing with Genny, so? I am adding onto what Genny has added. Okay, Dad. You're barking up a tree with zero squirrels in it if you think my angle is "not like other guys". Okay, kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 09:53 PM
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You are looking for angles that aren't there. That's fine but offering unsolicited advice just drives home the quoted line above. Its a CMV, my guy. And I regularly get guys who IM me because I hit a nerve and they want me to explain it further. Some even say it helps them and unlike you, I drop the suspicion and accept they are telling me the truth. Don't project your ego onto me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:36 PM
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I agree that free will is part of the human condition. Critical really. What destroys this is the absence of free will via addiction AND then the hope that absence of your weaknesses will give you your free will back. I think it's only an illusion. Human existence is fascinating. The older I get the more fascinating it becomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:29 PM
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If you get past the defensiveness when someone spells it out honestly, it can save you nearly a decade and allow you to get back to exploring a full human experience. "Grieving" for 8 years is excessive. Perhaps not for him, but the vast majority of men...its excessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:25 PM
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Well, clearly their treats and moderation are not adequate Well, those people need to be adequate. Same problems most people have, just expressed with different vices. It's not the diet. The diet works. Its their ability to deal with temptation. Can you have a few beers without getting blitzed? Can you be in a relationship and not bitch out on your girl? Can you eat one treat and leave the rest of the bag? So I'm not shocked when I hear a long time addict that cleaned up for 10 years suddenly fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:08 PM
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Absolutely. Their suggested list that I think BluePillProfessor put together was also outstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:05 PM
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Don't know, maybe you are listening to girls too much that men sound like women to you. I am pointing out a massive deficiency that would make their lives easier if they just put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 06:02 PM
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Yes, I think it's a myth too. Staying away from shit that brings out your addictions is like treating a wound without ever asking how you got stabbed. So this right here is filed under "no ability to move on", rather avoid the issue and pretend its solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:45 PM
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It would make dating fucking boring. It would further the divide between hawt dudes and average dudes. I was being completely inappropriate by taking my future wife bed shopping on our second date. Last gf moved out and took her bed with her. If I had been pleasant and polite I'd have been seriously bored. One of us had to be ridiculous and interesting at least. She told her boss the next day it was the best date she'd ever been on. I pulled shit like this all the time to see who would stick aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:35 PM
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Yeah, common issue. We get into these problems when we are presented the best way forward but we skim ourselves out of success. Like showing up at the gym and half-assing the workout.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 04:24 PM
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So then why go 8 years? What dude needs to do that in order to get over a massive problem within himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:59 PM
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You're still a Nice Guy. You've just flipped the script from pedestalizing women to villainizing women. Natural progression for sure but only NGs think being assertive means youre a narcissist. This is clearly explained in No More Mr Mice Guy. Should be mandatory for RP guys. It is for MRP for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:49 PM
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These men fail at meeting women at an individual level. They fail because they have yet to rise as an individual mostly separated from their adolescents. This is what keeps a lot of RP guys stuck; no rite of passage or ability to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 03:28 PM
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Offers are not you keeping a guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 07:10 PM
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I've often asked "what can women do to save their relationship". Its not just realization. They'd have to fully connect HOW they fucked up and then HOW to behave that will keep a relationship healthy. That's an insurmountable amount of work for a lot of these girls that cant even handle the emotional burden of a man that sporadically does the dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:23 PM
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Not right away, I'd fight her tooth and nail first, but I agree. You almost wouldn't need to disown her. We use the term sex worker to somehow turn a blind eye to all the probable behaviors a prostitute will go through outside of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 05:10 PM
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Men in countries where guns aren't common largely don't want guns. You vastly misunderstand men then. Most men also don't and can't protect their families You vastly misunderstand men in such a way that you get an F-. because they are not with their families until night-time. This is a silly fucking comment. Of course men can't drag their wives to work. What is your intent behind this ridiculous comment? What is true is that men are more likely to respond to the threat from other men Uh...again,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 07:08 AM
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That's not the same as saying "find a girl dude".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:38 PM
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She cursed like a dude, was too assertive like a dude(which is fine in business but nobody wants to deal with that all the time), fixed things around the house like a dude, drank like a dude. The only position open was to be feminine, and let me tell you that position was WIDE open. You think men want to sign up for that position?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:47 PM
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Then she was deficient in some way or asking for more than what was fair. Correct. I seriously doubt men would have committed to her if only she had been jobless and uneducated, which is what you're implying. That's not at all what I'm implying. This is exactly what I mean when I say she's selling shit men don't want to buy. They don't care if she's got a career or is jobless. You aren't understand what men want from women. You are only understanding what women want from men and then projecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:36 PM
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From your own mouth - I’m not particularly feminine I’ll admit (which is why I have more male friends) and I mean I’m masculine in the sense of how I relate with others socially. That means you are masculine. Most guys don't want to get into a relationship with his buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:29 PM
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Yes to all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:19 PM
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I don't care what TRP men complain about. Much of it is obviously hypcritical. And independent woman Normal adult women are valuable because they are not a burden on a man. Which is what you are hearing from TRP men, women being more of a burden than what they give back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 06:18 PM
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I knew this woman at work. I told her the same thing when she complained that she couldn't get a guy to commit. I said, men take one look at you and see the position of "dude" is already taken. I kept reiterating to her that if you want a man, you have to be what men what to "buy". And then she'd list off that she makes 80k per year, had a masters degree. I had to stop her there. I go that's what you want to buy from a man. That's not what men want from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:53 PM
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Yes all "tools" that arouse from a biological need of some kind. Maybe people disliked starving to death so the created agriculture. Maybe men who wanted power and control thus created bureaucracy; perhaps men wanted order too. Over time the need to hunt produced an unnatural atlatl to throw a very unnatural spear further than naturally possible. And it unnaturally advanced into a rifle that can kill a man a mile away. So what if monogamous marriage wasn't in every culture. Its the prevalent soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 05:45 PM
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I could easily argue marriage is also about raising children thus it is VERY representative of our biology. This is why I don't trust the whole "its a social construct" perspective. Nothing is concrete and its mostly learned behavior, which it isn't. Edit: apply it to everything. We are biologically geared to be social creatures, thus we create arenas, parties and cell phones to keep in touch with other people. Most men have a need to protect their family, which is why I'm eyeing a few PDW 9mm g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:52 PM
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I doubt marriage and long monogamous relationships are biologically wired. Well, sure. Handguns aren't biologically wired, but most men are wired to be aggressive and to fight. These created concepts and tools arose from our nature as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 04:44 PM
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Dude, whenever I see guys like you I get a HUGE impression you're scared of women. So you "have standards" that clearly ensure you will never be touched by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:15 PM
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Give me a name I can google. What's your bare minimum you'd be willing to fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:06 PM
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I don't need to send you a pic, your standards are too high because as you say you're a "kissless virgin". You've already said you aren't attracted to Asians...like, what? So me sending you a pic to "evaluate" just kind of says you got your own hypergamy going on. This whole thing about "looksmatch and hypergamy and judgement...you've already made up a girls' mind for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:59 PM
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I think your brain is cock blocking you. Not your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:10 PM
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Men really get a lot from a woman that doesn't know how to be assertive. But specifically this chick is going to NEED girl game. Both to get a guy and to keep him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:04 PM
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So I constantly see all this talk of dating strategies for men but none for women. Women need strategies for keeping a guy. It seems that men look down on femininity and dislike women acting “basic” Think you're taking notes from the wrong men. yet are also turned off by women with more masculine personas (even if they look feminine) Why date a woman who is already the best man in her life? I also see a lot of posts bemoaning women’s “arrogance” yet low confidence is viewed as an unattractive th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:20 PM
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Completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 09:30 PM
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Some men don't consider that learning is an excuse to treat your exes better than you treat your current partner. It always seemed to me these women "inverted" their boundaries when they got hurt by some guy. Literally making the next man responsible for her poor past behaviors and choices. That isn't learning. That's just adapting in order to not get hurt again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 09:25 PM
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If a man is being exploited One can develop boundaries, break up with women and generally not treat themselves like helpless victims. You are suggesting avoidance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:58 PM
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Then I will be precise. Paying someone to be around you implies people don't want to be around you normally. How would you ever be a beta provider if your only means to keep them around is explicitly pay them? The way you word this seems to paint the picture you had a choice of both. RP will call this a rationalizing hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:39 PM
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Sure, I'm just looking at his words, not other women. You know, funny rationalizations people have when they say shit like this. It became clear to me that some women wanting men to be "clapping fucking monkies" were the boring ones too. And I see the same sort of elements in the OP. The existence of boring women isn't proof this dude is a party animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:28 PM
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Yes, I told Nacho the same thing. Not everyone has the ability to be their own boss, but if it can be achieved, do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:11 PM
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I get it if you want to "diversify", but you can quit a husband just as fast as you can quit a job. Yes, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:07 PM
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If you are bored, YOU are boring. And "maximize your fitness traits" is what some boring person would say. This "pragmatic" decision to explicitly keep someone around just confirms one is not interesting enough for other people to WANT to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 08:03 PM
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Its not hard to understand. Its silly. A shit ton of jobs don't develop shit, don't pay enough and burn you out more than give you a sense of accomplishment. I get it if you want to "diversify", but you can quit a husband just as fast as you can quit a job. Businesses are notorious for for just letting people go at a moment's notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 07:57 PM
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I did listen. You aren't financially independent from jack shit. That's what all these people are telling you. You're just dependent on a business paying your bills rather than a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 07:18 PM
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The context, unless I'm mistaken, is working within marriage. I find it funny whenever I hear someone say they are financially independent in the context of marriage. I don't think married women suck for going to work; hell my wife does it and we've been able to do some pretty fantastic things. But the moment you start having kids, zero financial independence and now you've got a husband, boss and a giant daycare bill. Have more than one kid? Then you quickly get an idea how dependent everyone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 05:03 PM
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Yes, it was literally want they wanted. To be free. Both got that. Men and women. No gay man is asking "should gay men go back into the closet" because that's fucking ridiculous. We all know this. And the men that say women should go back into the kitchen shouldn't be listened to...right? So why are women asking if their place is in the kitchen and raising children?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:51 AM
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Gay men shouldn't be shamed. Neither should women. Gay men just stopped talking about it because they got what they wanted. I think women who still talk about it discuss it because they got what they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:42 AM
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Oh jesus are we really going to do this
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:36 AM
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Gay men escaped their closet and never talked about it again. Women escaped their kitchen and can't stop talking about it. Wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 02:04 AM
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it's losing your soul to strike out at the gender who hurt you. Which is just what rp instructs men to do. Very well said. Either side seems to be willing to give up their happiness to spite the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 11:08 PM
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My assumption as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:09 PM
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Oh, I agree, it isn't enough for most women. But even just separating this element from the list of things women require; Myrgan's argument still seems flawed. with a net result of more men being left out completely. I think that bubble will pop with a lot of women as they age. I often say you can't put the cat into the bag on what women gained with "feminism" or their want to be treated as equals. I think RP and how it will trickle out to most men will be another cat that will never go back int…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:49 PM
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I kinda agree if it's a woman that doesn't want a men in general. But it lacks the forethought of having two combined paychecks. Or that women don't want to be "forever gfs". Marriage is very much something a lot of women require from men because it's the highest form of security women can obtain from men. Earning power, as an idea, is better with a betabux as it's going to be around double your current earning power. What if a pandemic happens and you lose your job? So by your own logic, it won…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:35 PM
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Its the reality. Often times, people don't connect how their perspectives bleed out into their actions and ultimately make themselves their own worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 04:25 PM
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any gender that’s literally what 2 people are supposed to do when there in a relationship like wtf This is a great way for men to evaluate if they are treated the same as how they treat women. Just look at her level of enthusiasm to get an idea if you are over investing. I get a lot of women would like that, I just don't know of women that respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:14 PM
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Its not a problem to the vast majority of betas. Sexual situations the majority of the time those guys initiate would be enough. Just don't starfish. Women would LITERALLY just need to put a slightly above minimal effort or just act Not Bored. Now you are just moving that goal post because you can no longer lean on the idea that women are gentle and wonderful when they give "occasional sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:09 PM
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There you go, that's what you should have commented instead of bring up the hypothetical example of an FDS thread. No. Women need to start getting this. This has nothing to do with how I've told it. All to do how women understand men and their near absolute inability to listen to men. Most women "just don't get it". but then also arguing that prostitutes wont solve their needs for sex. Yes, and it should be obvious why that is. At its core, validation. You don't get that with women you are payin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:04 PM
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She does not understand men at all The bane of their own misery and misery of any man that tried to love such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:55 PM
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We all have our responsibilities to do our best. But some women want to make it men's fault for women treating their men poorly, all while say they emotionally support their men. But they aren't really. But ofcourse men want Chad treatment Not really. But please continue to make women treating men poorly a problem for men. I don't think it's right, just like when men make excuses for men treating women poorly because "she was asking for it by the way she was dressed". You just replace it with "d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:52 PM
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Well then they should stop being so ugly if they want to be desired Hahaha, gotcha. See how then this statement - They still get love, emotional support, affection, intimacy and children and occasional sex Is absolute bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:31 PM
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If you can't see how I disagreeing with her, there's no amount of communication that exists for you understand. But let me distill it one last time - Sexlesness is still an issue, a different issue from women treating men poorly. TLDR - Oh, you prefer a broken toe to a broken finger? Well then a broken toe is no longer an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:28 PM
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They still love, emotional support, affection, intimacy and children and occasional sex This is not understanding men then. Men don't want what you are selling. You want what you are selling: emotional support, love, affection, children. Men need more than the "occasional sex" to understand and get to the love, emotional support and affection. Problem being, when this is expressed in a relationship (as in the real world with actual women) the occasional sex ALMOST ALWAYS means occasional love, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:20 PM
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Then why are you asking this question again but gearing it towards sexlessness? No one wants to be treated like shit, from Chad or Stacy or whoever. People prefer to be treated with dignity. It seems what you are saying is be grateful to be used and treated like shit; those people did you a favor. Now you are saying, without getting why people bristle at such a statement, men prefer no sex over being used...thus "no sex" is no longer an issue due to wanting a more important need of "not be treat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:10 PM
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See this is how I know, you don't understand the problem. You can't view it from men's AND women's perspective to see why both examples are so similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:02 PM
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Think of a post where some FDS woman, fed up with how men are taking advantage of them and then you tell them to be grateful for the table scraps. This is a coherent rebuttal. They parallel exactly. And if you've never caught men and women fighting over this set of elements, your listening skills fucking suck. This has been all over PPD. They're gonna just keep crying about how shit the beta man's options are and how theyre not getting a "fair" deal Especially when FDS showed up with this exact …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:53 PM
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Think of a post where some FDS woman, fed up with how men are taking advantage of them and then you tell them to be grateful for the table scraps. Its not going to go over well. In fact, a man should never date a woman that holds your perspective that a woman is doing him a favor...because such a woman almost NEVER treats that man with the most basics of respect or dignity. Only as a nuisance. TLDR - you are leading yourself to a conclusion about men so you don't have to have a negative conclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:32 PM
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It's never paid for women to be direct. Think about it rather than assuming I'm defending women. Its a nature thing. And when a bunch of weak guys start getting triggered over it, what would you expect women to do? Be a man? Communicate directly like a man? Potentially be treated like a man. Progressives think I don't care about political ideology or identity politics. Its for dismissive people who don't want to think, left or right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:27 PM
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I think these women equate traditional AS abusive. I wonder if that's why they usually fail with men in general. These women never seem to consider traditional might mean "How can I be more likable and lovable to a potential boyfriend or husband".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:22 PM
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"Hey, if I act likable, will I be beaten? How about if I choose a weak partner I can dominate?" Who's the potential abuser here? Its as if some women are geared to abuse with this kind of talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:18 PM
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Those two are weirdos and scientologists. Most guys with boundaries would just divorce. Hollywood will never be a good example of what reality is for "the rest of us".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:59 PM
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So survival of the quitest?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:14 PM
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Women have two choices. Either they tell the offensive truth about who they screw and be labeled some version of the scarlet letter. Or they be nice and polite and be labeled a liar. In both cases when should the "house" ever tell men how to count cards? Women speak indirectly for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 09:17 PM
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That & I realise that TRP will never be conventional wisdom. Of course it never will be. But WE are the products of some sad fucking stories. WE, I mean that sort of loosely, are meant to filter that into "acceptable" bites for "guys that need it". Or not. Disillusion as you see fit. But we can't all just get along if we go down that path. How am I going to lie to this kid? You aren't. You give him the rule set before he's fucked over. I know you don't have kids. I do. And you need to consider s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:42 AM
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Jack, you've been here for a while. Don't make me think you haven't gained some wisdom about men and women. Because you should be able to navigate young men without making them bitter. Otherwise, what the fuck good are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:16 AM
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I think a lot of guys need to divorce the idea that having fun with women requires you to be an honorable gentlemen. That's precisely what young women don't find fun. One is not a bad guy for not following some social expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 10:53 PM
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Nice Guys are not assertive, which is something most women find attractive in men. Also no I'm not red pill. You only need two books if you're interested. A book called When I Say No I Feel Guilty ( basically its Verbal Kung Fu and assertiveness training). And Models by Mark Manson. Those two things will help you navigate women without getting all angry at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 10:16 PM
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LMAO. Hey, whatever leaves you unchallenged, programming/anime guy. Some of us can get a good deal. Lesser men can't
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:12 AM
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You aren't tracking. Again, what is it that you aren't understanding? YOU think it isn't fair. And for many men, it might not be. But that isn't women's fault. That's a man that can't be assertive or express his boundaries. That's a spineless guy. You just want to make men into victims of women. Which is really the mentally ill perspective. I've gone through both TRP and MPR, check my history. I just think more of men than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:54 AM
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From the perspective of raising children (got 3 of 'em) in a stable environment, from the perspective of pooling two paychecks together (wife's and mine), there's a tried and true method of success. With obvious risks that are not negotiable. Do you believe in business partners or must we kill a pet to get it done? Investors? Are collaborations too risky (pet slaughter) that one should just go through life completely independent of others? Because all these things require a buy-in that is struct…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 03:32 AM
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What is it that you aren't understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:15 AM
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There's optimal and there isn't. I see it as optimal. But I'm okay with risk too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:14 AM
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I don't need to be married to raise children either. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 01:46 AM
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Well tell me how you got 40 percent. Because that sounds like you made it up with fear based statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 12:55 AM
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It's just seems irrational to get married in general. Addressing this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 12:54 AM
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How do you know? Are you fucking those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 12:47 AM
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Except when raising children, marriage is absolutely a VERY rational idea. Pooling two paycheck together, if you've chosen the right person, is a VERY rational idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 12:29 AM
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Jesus Christ, I don't want to have the right to make a woman get an invasive medical procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:48 PM
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The same type of rhetoric is basically used by pro-lifers when the concept of abortion is brought up. Their oh so simple solution is "don't want kids, don't have sex, easy peasy". It kinda sidesteps the crazy idea that people have sex without the intent to get pregnant. Beautiful insight. And that's why both answers annoy me; its the same answer. Couldn't put my finger on it so thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:18 PM
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no one here believes you do this equally with your wife. Its called life experience. I get that's inconvenient with your perspectives on life. Nature doesn't care about your feelings. Biology works toward reproduction. Neither does a car, or BC, or abortion procedures. We were never meant to fly, move at 80 mph along the ground, control when we have children, avoid cancer with elective surgeries, communicate with someone in near real time even though they are both thousands of miles away. They d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:08 PM
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And you know what they don't have? Financial restitution for getting an STD. They get 50/50 custody of little Herpes and no child support to speak of. But we are talking about pregnancy and birth. Not STDs. You can ABSOLUTELY avoid giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 08:47 PM
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There are actually NO fool proof ways to avoid pregnancy other than abstinence. Are you a conservative? I can't believe I'm hearing this. Of course. But it's reasonably assured you won't HAVE A BABY on accident. One has to ACTIVELY choose to not use the tools available to NOT HAVE A BABY. Impossible to know. So. You aren't going to get warranties on your vagina, spouse, baby's daddy or your child. Its all a gamble.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 08:44 PM
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Consent to having sex isn't consent to being a parent. And in this modern age, that's just stupid. We don't live in a mud hut with no way of obtaining several forms of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 08:39 PM
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Lol! Biological differences aren't applicable for what OP is complaining about. If we look solely at "biological differences" then we shouldn't be talking about consent, or abortions or financial abortions or state forced pregnancies or being conservative. Its the wrong element to look at. That's all social aspects. And to put it your way, the technology is present just about everywhere in America to render "biological differences" nearly null. You don't have to keep it in your pants. Women aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 08:33 PM
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Remember, you are the one arguing that biological differences are not arguments. I am?! Where did I stumble into that hornets nest?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:42 PM
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That is because the baby is inside her body and connected to her. The father is not carrying the baby. Father has no say. Both men and women have a financial obligation to care for and make sure the child is healthy once that child is in this world. Father has no say. The right to abortion stems from this and isn't relevant for the purpose of the first obligation. Father has no say. Because not woman. Which is fine. Men will always find a way to buck the system if it completely disregards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:20 PM
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Sex does not mean consent to be a parent. There are so many alternative to avoid pregnancy, most people can avoid pregnancy if they want to. Or abort it if they don't avoid it. If you don't want it to be one-sided, women should only have sex when they know the person will stick around. Otherwise, yes, women have unilateral right to their bodies as so with unilateral right comes 100 percent of the consequences. That's how unilateral right works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 07:11 PM
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Therefore, there is a risk of conception that triggers both responsibility in the male and responsibility in the female if conception occurs and a child is formed. Debunk reality all you'd like. If the guy told her to get an abortion, she doesn't have to. Its her decision. And if he said he'd want to keep the baby, she doesn't have to. Its her decision. And it should be. It should always be her decision. The rest of your text is needless details. Abortion services should NEVER be taken from wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:54 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:15 PM
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if all of the responsibility and consequences of sex always fall entirely on women It doesn't. I don't know how you are getting that impression. why should men have any rights to their children? If they don't want it they shouldn't have rights to the child. Furthermore, there are a ton of men that actively talked to their spouse about having children. They agreed and got pregnant. And now they are BOTH responsible for their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:14 PM
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No, that is their consequence. Its a miserable existence. For her and for the child. This is the end result of your "consent because sex" mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:10 PM
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I went into living together, and marriage with the EXPLICIT INTENT of having children with my wife. I would like to know if someone can explain how cumming in a women and her getting pregnant, doesn’t mean you consented to having a child? This is not two adults having a very adult conversation about bringing a child into this world and raising it as parents. Its the exact opposite. And we talked A LOT about having a third child. We communicated. it is somehow hard for you to understand that many…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 06:06 PM
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Its true you can get pregnant. Its not true that women use this as the basis of every choice they make thereafter and what they use as a shield from criticism. If you got pregnant and the guy that knocked you up said he didn't want it, what would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:55 PM
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And yet they don't accept this responsibility or potential consequence. They expect the sperm donor to do that for them. They'll make that decision to keep the baby, expect him to pay, expect him to parent. And call him a dead beat dad when at every avenue he's probably made it crystal clear he doesn't want to do any of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:52 PM
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I made an extremely valid point. Don't be mad at me because you don't understand it. See, I signed up for children. Even with our third. I didn't want a 3rd kid. Not for a while. But I got to thinking about how my wife had felt because, you know, I can do what you aren't able to. I didn't want to take her full human experience away from her. She always envisioned her life with 3 kids. And thank god I did that and decided to have a 3rd kid. Our daughter is amazing. And I look at her wondering how…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:46 PM
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Yeah, like what we were talking about yesterday. A lot of women, even when making an active effort to understand the man's pov, simply aren't capable of "just getting it". And their only answer is a trump card. Because woman. Because womb. Because birth. Not connecting no one made that decision for them. These women did that all on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:38 PM
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No I get why women think how you do. Risk averse, not wanting to raise a child alone, might not being able to afford it. You can NEVER be another race and you can NEVER be pregnant. Ah, so ask men, then get an answer you don't like so you pull the you'll never be pregnant? I have three kids. I've spend untold hours in the middle of the night bouncing, feeding, changing. Right along side my wife. And with years of child rearing, I believe both parents MUST be on the same page about what they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:33 PM
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Not at all being sarcastic. THis is basic "math".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:29 PM
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This concept as a concept shouldn't be too difficult for women to understand. Maybe difficult to accept, but not understand. In government contracting, we have two types of contracts. Bilateral and Unilateral. Bilateral means both parties must agree. Unilateral means the government gets to decide without the contractors approval. So having sex DOES NOT EQUAL CONSENT to starting a family. This is so obvious, I don't even know where to start. If this was truly the case with women, NONE of you woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:22 PM
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Why would they be? The man carries all the risk when things go south. Nobody said they do? That's exactly what Ramblin is suggesting. That they are consciously doing this. Which is my only issue with his statement. It might be the reality, but most women aren't consciously doing all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:26 PM
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I see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:38 AM
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Women will always be a good test for men. You don't blame the test when men fail it. Most men have that moment where they know its A not B. Yet they pick the wrong answer, against their own gut feelings, and are then shocked when the wrong answer acts exactly like the wrong answer that they are. You can't bitch about an F.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:06 AM
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Are you confused about the rationalizing hamster?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 03:44 AM
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They are turned on by successful men at work and aren’t shy about going after them. A lot aren't shy, sure. The man carries all the risk when things go south. Dude, they aren't making a risk analysis chart. They don't put their insidious hat on and start plotting how they can fuck over a man...They carry some risk. Read Monika's story after her cigar habits were exposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:34 AM
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I always waited with sex untill we were in a relationship. An excellent way of doing all this. Its just more important to not be restrictive in a relationship than outside of one. Of course this assumes women in general value being in a relationship; not just existing to please men. But to keep the men you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:31 PM
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What do you mean by based? Do you mean biased? Because your opinion is far more biased than I'll ever be. Its so ridiculous that if you're serious, its bordering on mental illness. Is your penis suddenly ordained or destroyed by how many vagina's its been in? Do you somehow not own that woman because you slept with her? It isn't explaining over protective fathers. Those are guys that clean shotgun on the porch when the date comes over. No father should be in the business of knowing his daughter …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 02:15 PM
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One of the main reasons MRP exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:05 AM
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Ah, yes, artificial inflation. So good right up until it pops. You'd better make sure he NEVER cracks the code on this one. The moment he does, he'll have zero respect for you. And what's there to respect. It isn't earned. Its restricted. Being pussy whipped isn't respectable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:03 AM
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The sex a man has to wait for (especially in a relationship) will never be worth the wait, because it usually sucks and she's got it in her head she's doing you a favor. And over the long run, strangles the relationship to death. Women that withhold sex both kill their man's interest over time and make those women useless to all men when they are inevitably dropped by their guy. Its probably counter-intuitive to a woman that plays these stupid games. You don't continue to act like you want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:59 AM
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The fact that you would say that means I'd give you a ton of pictures of ugly women and you'd just see white space. I'm an alpha btw Lol. m'kay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:22 PM
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Are you are getting what you want out of life? If so, see it as a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:24 PM
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You're in the minority. The VAST minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 03:12 AM
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Here's where this line of reasoning goes - because you don't want to tell a near stranger that you aren't into them, you are now responsible for the clueless bag or baguette that doesn't just get it. Furthermore, you are asking the unoffended party to be less attractive by explaining a game that's all about being attractive. We wouldn't have sites like TRP if most women didn't get a "pussy pass" at treating men like absolute shit. This is not a result of someone trying to be easy on others. TRP …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:47 AM
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It is the main part. Some men lack the ability to be in relationships so they pump and dump. I'd hope by now women would be able to tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:46 PM
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Most men would lock themselves in that deal WAY before they realized they wanted children. And the vast majority of the men that would eventually realize they wanted children wouldn't be too worked up about never having children with all the sex they are getting. TLDR Human species go bye-bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:54 PM
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Of course it's so much more. BUT the foundation for a guy IS sex. The rest is built upon that. This is really where a lot of women simply fail at understanding men. What do you think is happening with a boyfriend that doesn't want to have sex with his girlfriend any longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:49 PM
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I get that. And women are using BC to artificially avoid accidental pregnancy. I've had several women tell me "thank god I never got pregnant with soandso". Still married "beta" men, still had children with them. I think you have this idea where woman are trying to play Pokémon with their womb. I don't think that's what they are doing. Seems to me they are looking for a blend of both AF and BB before they get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:43 PM
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It's funny you list pharmaceuticals and then forget how birth control really stops your assertion from happening. Also, lots of women cant get AF and still want children. BB is still a viable strategy. Just not as successful FOR A GUY than AF...at getting laid, not reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 07:12 PM
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Believing in TRP will always begin to erode and sabotage any relationship I mean, yeah. TRP is about getting sex without exchanging commitment to get it. Its pretty much the most incorrect tool to get into a relationship or at least to keep a relationship going. Which is why you see a massive difference in reading material for MRP. Which is a HUGE sidebar geared to keeping a relationship. I would argue though, if you need either for a relationship then YOU and/or your significant other outright …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 08:05 PM
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The problem with these types of men is that nerdy girls they find attractive won't date them. These guys are almost hypergamous but don't have the physicals looks to be hypergamous. Its less about being hypocritical and more about keeping women at bay because they are scary. But its women's fault because she's an uggo or a whale or too hot and uptight. They literally paint themselves into a nice secure corner with no chance of success. THey also don't want to be married because it automatically …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 06:52 PM
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Seemed so out of character. These deepfakes are getting crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:21 PM
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Yeah, I think he's reading a letter. Only some sort of incel that DOESN'T have kids, is afraid of women and worries about being cheated on would write something like that. I've never seen Jordan Peterson ever say anything of the sort. I think dads have two "psyche" options. You lead as a good example, which is fucking difficult, or you lead as a tyrant, because brute force seems pragmatic. But you have to play the long game. Tyrant is NOT a good long game strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:08 PM
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Jesus, I even hate typing it out. Basically having a daughter makes you the biggest "cuck" ever. Even uses the word. Because you are raising this sweet innocent girl to be ravaged by other men. I don't know if its his opinion or he's reading it, because it sounds like he's reading someone's letter. Either way, its a metric fuck ton of possessiveness over a woman you aren't ever going to know sexually. But he formulates his answer as if it was. So fucking weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:54 PM
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This is why you divorce the idea that you own your children. They are part of you but not literally you. I get his answer, but what the fuck do I care what she does with her body? Seriously, I can raise my daughter and give her all the best tools to navigate HER life, but what a silly response. At the core, its a really weird possessive motivation to answer like Jordan Peterson did. Because it's fairly incestious to come to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:47 PM
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I have two sons and a daughter. They are wonderful and show you aspects of both sexes that I've come to appreciate very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:36 PM
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I believe their are men that hate themselves for being beta; like a gay dude that has yet to come to terms with himself and just say "fuck it, I'm going to accept and enjoy life". But instead of having the hateful parent that will disown them for being gay, these guys are the hateful party. Due to that, they also don't want women to win, so being a "attractive beta that works hard" is seeing women benefit in a way these men don't feel they deserve. Sit with that a moment. They hate the idea of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 04:31 PM
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Fair enough. It should have been their recommended readings. It wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 12:03 AM
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The first two mandatory books are No More Mr. Nice Guy and an extremely good book on assertiveness training (I Feel Guilty When I Say No). MRP has the better sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 10:11 PM
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I've seen several of them. Men won't get the answers there. Only how to "listen" and how to communicate starting with "I feel". Its at best a way to depressurize the resentment. Its not going to get answers for men that need it. I would say MRP's sidebar was enough to get over that nice guy mentality. And if one would argue that TRP wasn't beneficial, I'll show you a person that didn't do their homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 09:29 PM
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Women - Hella thick to hella thin equals fuckable. Men - Top shelf or you pay girl to hang around you. Victim - Why you no love Quasimodo? What? I'm not Quasimodo and you just are turned off by how low my self-esteem is? No, no. I identify as victim. Accept me, even though I can't accept me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 03:27 AM
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I think it would just be a catch all to men that women wouldn't have considered in the first place. It'll be pretty obvious, just spot the anime elf chick robot from Nihongo Systems and look at who "she's" following. Take a good long look because I think you'd be able to reverse engineer how such a man got to buying a fucking robot as a companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 02:11 AM
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I’m not saying it’s never happened, but I can say it’s rare enough that it’s never happened to anyone I know or heard of. And what woman would EVER admit it to even their husbands, let alone you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 06:37 PM
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You're like a religious person that thinks atheism is just another form of religion because you can't possibly imagine the absence of it. TRP doesn't advocate men be just and fair (Moral). TRP doesn't advocate sexual violence (Immoral). The sexual strategy is what's AMORAL. And I hope you rail against shitty women like you do TRP. Or do you give them a pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 03:07 PM
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I don't really care. Or maybe that's just obvious. I care that the kind of man I'm talking about is uber weak, which is why he's at TRP to fix. Not find another angle to his weakness. With TRP, single women shouldn't be a problem. And they almost universally, can't get a date from single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 09:57 PM
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Are you okay with a "buyer beware" market where it's easy for consumers to get fucked over by businesses?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:20 PM
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Used to be PR, but due to following my morals, I'm purple. In some sense, for men, I think you have to see things amoral first. And if you can then "afford" morals, go for it. sleeping with a married woman Given my extensive time in askTRP, men that want to do this have a very sick fetish in cucking the husband. Its usually because they still lack options so they are going after women with only 1 "opponent". These dude are so beta, they'll never even rise to be beta bux. cheating on your LTR I j…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 07:43 PM
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...are you on crack?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 05:36 AM
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And there's no longer a "thang" that is "wives submit to your husbands" because now there's "Happy wife, happy life" which is the same damn thing but in reverse. So while you can't remember, lets cringe together.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:36 AM
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Well, I'd hope after RP, tone policing would be neutralized. That one could look at intent and agreement...and see a complementary phrase for what it is - a complement. If "bad ass" has lost all meaning then disregard my complement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:32 AM
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I've worked with hundreds of guys. Happy wife means happy life, is the worst cringe ever. There is no Happy husband, happy chick phrase because women don't make happy dudes when they're happy. And that's the cringe. Women don't have a saying like this for their men. Because that's not the direction it works. No wife/ happy life is the default answer for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:13 AM
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You don't treat people like Not People. But that's what you are doing, Not People.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:46 AM
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Fuck you. Hit a nerve!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:28 AM
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That fuck deleted his account. From MRP to now, you really do take out the trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:26 AM
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Willow has more ability to out man you than you do on the best day of your life. She runs a fucking farm, FactsIareNot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:10 AM
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Dude, I hope ur a troll. Because if you aren't, get your soul on a workout routine so you can work it out until you are strong enough to become a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:06 AM
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No because it seems in your answers you don't understand reality. And you have no idea about standards when you clearly do not really understand PEOPLE. You know, the other entities that walk around and have heads and legs and use their mouths to communicate?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 01:56 AM
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So much of this is bad ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 12:20 AM
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I would say that about both sexes needing each other. Women just will be VERY risk averse with weak men and men will be VERY risk averse with weak women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 12:12 AM
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I write horror fiction. Mostly Cosmic Horror. I like that you can melt away societal bullshit and really get to what we are as humans. Not in a nihilistic way, but what truly matters when the chips are down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 11:42 PM
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Youth would think that. Losers would think that. Unchallenged lazy ass people would come to that conclusion. You'd be living in a post apocalyptic future if that was the case. As I get older, its clear their are fewer and fewer losers. Because they have enough life experience to stop being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 04:13 AM
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I have three kids. Your answer is naïve at best. If you think that, you haven't done shit with your life. And your answer is "emotion"? Really? What, I have to be a impenetrable robot to be seen as an adult? No talk of merit or accomplishment or experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 03:33 AM
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Okay, if you are pretending, you've failed to launch essentially. This is kinda silly if you have children because it's really easy to separate the two. The ability to be assertive and honest is really the lynchpin of being "genuine". Children pretend because they give answers they think other's want in order to be accepted by others. So, we are not all children pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 03:17 AM
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Yeah, no. You're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 03:11 AM
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I agree. Can't be genuine if you're as shallow as a kiddy pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:58 PM
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You have to be able to see which ones are looking for it. I had a coworker at my last job that just ran herself ragged. She was a real bitch, but you could tell she was just defensive and upset no one noticed how hard she worked. She was heated over a few decisions upper management made, ran her mouth and got in trouble. In private I said I'd rather work with someone that actually cared about her job than someone who didn't give a fuck at all. She just wanted to be noticed, that someone saw what…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:41 PM
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There's no question about what type of value. If you are afraid you're going to be a plow horse or get taken advantage you suck royal at having boundaries and being assertive. Avoiding family is still worrying about your own ability to handle people close to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:37 PM
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MRP is doing it right for the most part. And their side bar, their mods and the askMRP is run very well. That's why I didn't bring up MRP. Its still not TRP and the messages are fairly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:35 PM
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This is why I say some Rp men often spite their own happiness because it just might see women benefit. To be valued by others IS to be valuable yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:22 PM
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Oh, I've heard all sorts of bullshit posts. It's not a core tenant. If it had been a core tenant of TRP then TRP would be much more successful and popular by now. It would have been featured on the sidebar and be prevalent throughout the sub. This is my point of bringing up Jordan Peterson's success and TRP's lack of growth...well lack of growth in a positive way rather than all the left over men that linger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 06:19 PM
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This answer right here is why Jordan Peterson has made millions and TRP gets picked last for kickball. Better to be useless to all than be used by some. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:53 PM
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Well they must have added that after I left. Where's the core tenant listed in TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:36 PM
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They might be biologically suited if they were in an environment that "fought back". But we are in a very stable environment where men SHOULD be able to thrive. TRP, as far as I've seen, doesn't find a purpose. Its a praxeology to get women. And I distinctly remember RP mods saying Jordan Peterson isn't your friend; which was one of the last nails in the coffin for me. JP gave an answer to nihilistic men that want a direction. The fact that JP and RP exist is because men have gotten really weak …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:23 PM
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And women are complaining about this because it's limiting advancement opportunities for women. Uh, I just think they're getting a feel for competition and now, just like men, these women are subject to it. Now these women have to prove themselves and gain a reputation instead of be given a chance just by virtue of being women. HR existed to effectively protect a company from this kind of shit, but it was usually geared towards protecting women. Guess HR is going to be sitting in with those annu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 01:52 AM
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Yes. And it will shift HOW men deal with women. This is a good thing. Over time, less men will be taken advantage of and there will be less men taking advantage of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 01:39 AM
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I've running the gambit of examples with you, I've given my stance on it (which is somehow black and white) which I just call reality, I've gone along with your examples too and you'll pick all of them apart even using cherry picking on YOUR example. Along the whole spectrum, it's going to be personal responsibility that saves most people. Maybe prison or cops scare you straight, maybe you put sunscreen on, maybe you put the damn phone down or blunt down or controller down when it's time to go t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 12:02 AM
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I smell a lawsuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 11:15 PM
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As I've always said, it might not have been your fault, but it is now your problem. The ones that make it out alive take personal responsibility and improve. The ones that don't blame everyone but themselves. I don't blame the sun for my genetic disposition to not absorb sun light correctly. My BIL had plenty of help to NOT be a addict. He chose time and again to keep using even when he knew he had a problem. Even when he stole from his dying mother, I shit you not. His whole environment tried t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 09:57 PM
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You're severely misunderstanding what I said if that's your takeaway. I'm not saying that people will always give in to excess if it's available to them, I'm saying that if we're surrounded by, saturated in, and grew up with knowing nothing but one reality, it feels silly to hold someone 'personally responsible' for not choosing something else. I very much understand. You are making people victims of their environment. I am not. I'm saying it's their choice. My phone has facebook installed on it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 09:42 PM
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We're only as free in our choices as the options available to us I think you have to give people the benefit of the doubt or you just start to sound like some women that says "all men will cheat if given the opportunity." I think that kind of mindset really setup everyone up for failure. A self-fulfilling prophecy. My wife drinks beer but we have whiskey and vodka. By your logic, she's going to go straight for the spirits and be running around the yard half naked a few hours from now. I think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 08:57 PM
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In general it might be. Some just use it to keep in touch with family members or have some silly facebook page that's from the perspective of their pet corgi. I can say that about online games too. You haven't lived unless you've had a 14 year old boy talk about banging your mother. But i'd still blame that on the user, not the platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 08:44 PM
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I don't think they'd be wrong about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 08:41 PM
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If getting off of social media was the solution, wouldn't that make social media the issue? If I played World of Warcraft, didn't shower, shit in a pan rather than be bothered to get off my chair and go to the bathroom, how is this WoW's issue? I don't say Blizzard has a gaming addiction, I say the gamer that can't balance his life with games has a gaming addiction. Its basically having healthy boundaries. "Everything in moderation".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 08:39 PM
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And zero serious relationships. It gets you on a date where you no longer get to blame this on OLD because you're in person. I'm assuming your standards are too high, which is deterring you from getting into relationships with women that would entertain the idea. It would be very different if you couldn't get a date through OLD at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 07:20 PM
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Stop with the identity politics. It looks ridiculous on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 07:17 PM
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I take a more passive approach, maybe open them or just wait for them to do it. But for the most part I match their effort. Found your problem. Do you expect women to chase you? You do the chasing. Can you guess which one happens more often? Yep, I can. Why do you think you're relationship material for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 07:12 PM
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Frankly I don't know if any of it true or not, and how hard is it to say "No I won't be coming over to your apartment?" On the other side of the coin, when it comes to poor behavior of women, I completely agree. you're now expecting them to be PC about it? No, you're supposed to be professional. That's the expectation of all that show up to work. Reiterate agendas all you want. But the people that get called out aren't acting professionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 07:03 PM
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If your wife deleted social media, while it means she is part of the problem, social media is obviously the other half Do you believe in the Prohibition? If someone is addicted to smoking, obviously the addiction is bad, and the person should get help. Do you believe its other people's moral responsibility to control these addicts like the Prohibition? There isn't an equivilant to compare the issue of tinder for women against men. Do you think it's society's moral obligation to control women so …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 06:59 PM
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However people are not constant and people that might have otherwise turned out decent can be led astray by the above. I'm not going to be responsible by accounting for other people's personal responsibility to NOT be led astray. And every time I hear this I always think of old cowboy movies when the guy is about to be hung for murder and he cautions the crowd to not let the drink take over your life or you'll be hung too. It is not the "tools" problem people are abusing it. It's the people's pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 06:54 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/hei0b9/former_ign_employee_mitch_dyer_speaks_out_about/ And this is what's causing it. This is the result of a system that doesn't naturally remove vile people. This is years of intimidation and threatening. I would rather have none of it. I don't give a shit about politics in corporate America (Liberal agenda) because it doesn't address the vileness of people in power. There's no room for politicians grabbing tits or sniffing people hair. There shouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 06:13 PM
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My question still stands, how are you doing anything different by saying red armchair psychiatrists is "actually dangerous" by doing the exact same arm chair psychology pointed at another "target audience"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:45 PM
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I worked with a swinger in Germany. He liked grooming women and seeing if they were open to fucking him and his wife. Hell, he even did it at work with my wife and I. Dude didn't even think he was doing anything wrong, but as the EEO rep, I had to hear all about it. You see, he didn't realize he was making them very uncomfortable because no one would tell him in the moment. That's not to say that's what you did or didn't. I just don't know you from Moses. Were you fired? Was your pay reduced? Di…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:26 PM
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My point is. What is actually dangerous is red pill armchair psychiatrists diagnosing sweeping problems with society and women caused by social media without any research or data supporting their positions. With all do sarcasm, do you have a link for that? Otherwise you're an armchair calling out an armchair.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 05:08 PM
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First link, guess what? Men are lawyering up against that stupid shit. They still work. They still get paid. Second link, not innocent. https://www.dmlp.org/threats/washington-post-v-tunison Here's the legal reason he was fired and I'd wonder if THATS what really caused his heart burn not the spreadsheet. Additionally, two editors from IGN are getting the shit the deserve after a shit ton of shitty practices and everyone, men and women are coming out of the wood work to call them out. Working as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:47 PM
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What innocent men are being destroyed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:14 PM
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Cancel culture is an excellent test of our society. It got some dick bags out of their position of power and it showed how some people are parasitic. Joey Diaz has an excellent take. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdQnTyu3sIo It creates better men, removed the ones that should be there, and it shows men that women are far from perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:10 PM
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I think you are throwing too much male into a woman's perspective. Women will say the same thing about video games and porn because it takes away time and attention from them. So social media is lessening women's choices and that's ruining it for men. Lots of MGTOW or incel guys will say women offer nothing so porn is easier. Which is good for women because they were never going to be considered to begin with. And for attention whores and Instagram models, this is good for men because it easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 04:02 PM
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It is natural for some women. And for men that want to take care of women (BB) it's natural to bulk at this kind of woman. Often times, when these women aren't so young anymore, they do go after these stable types. And when SHE'S older, SHE is a very bad match for those stable types she now wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 01:46 PM
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And further down that line of thought, this is the "instinct" a lot of women feel when they get even a hint of judgement from men. Its like the old tale of the Grasshopper and the Ant. Grasshopper plays around all summer long while the ants prep for winter. So when winter comes along, Grasshopper panics because it's going to starve to death. Expect in reality the "grasshopper" is like "alright, yeah I'll go with you Ant, but look...I'M doing YOU a favor." I get why a lot of men bulk at this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 01:37 PM
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This list, the whole idea that you have to look out as if sluts are roaming the street looking to dup you into a relationship...is stupid. You don't need a list. Men that would write that shit about common things they should watch out for...aren't what those types of women are looking for in a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 03:18 AM
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I was part of TRP and MRP for years. I've seen this perspective play out in askTRP for YEARS. And I doubt you did your homework with the RP sidebar. I can tell a mile away because the ones that learned a damn thing wouldn't say shit like this. They don't need a MAXIM magazine of 25 tells because you already know what to look for when you interact with them and meet them as people. It just reinforces this inability to see the opposite sex as something positive. How old are you? Have you found som…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 03:04 AM
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There are no magic ways to find a good girl, just good advice. No, its shit advice. It says all women are shit. And you'll never meet a good girl even if you ran right into her because you're too busy looking for bad girl tells. Did you even manage to read the TRP sidebar or the MRP sidebar? At least you'd be in the stratosphere of "good advice".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 02:49 AM
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I'm embarrassed for these young clueless men and I'm pissed I even care enough to be embarrassed for them. This isn't just delusional, it comes off as mental illness. "Everything means she pokes, except when there's no signs at all which might also means she pokes." Who the fuck says such idiotic things with a straight face?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 02:45 AM
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How is body hair common sense, bro? Evidently even non-smoking women without tattoos could also poke, so it’s not a foolproof method This seem like common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 02:29 AM
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Feign being a non-judgemental sex positive cuck. LMFAO. You mean, be an attractive guy she thinks she can open up to and you'll get the full history. I think you've invested so much time looking for signs she's a man eating vagina monster you forgot to see women as people. And your "return of the kings" 25 signs of being a slut?! Wtf? Has a slut face, excessive body hair, big breasts! Should be titled 25 signs you ain't ever going to touch chicks like that. so it’s not a foolproof method Its a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 01:36 AM
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Sex acts, partying, drinking or otherwise "fun stuff". Kids make her tired. Job was grueling. Regular adult stuff gets in the way and she gets boring AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:52 PM
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They don't do the shit they used to, so they're less fun and require more to even get to the "less fun".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:38 PM
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Its a great tactic if a woman applies it to all men. But it rarely happens that way. And what I've seen is that women become overly restricted and overly inflate their value; accidently going too far and punishing the guys who do stay because there was this "one guy" that hurt her. So its off putting because you are probably dealing with a chick that's asking WAY too much and might not be worth the exchange of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 10:28 PM
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Does the average joe have the same kind of protection? Angry Joe on YouTube is about to find out. He has a lawyer and I think it's the only answer with this kind of shenanigan's. If you aren't going to the police, and posting this shit for the court of public opinion, its the only logical answer men have to defend themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:36 PM
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I think the real question is what do they restrict in marriage. Not what they save.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:23 PM
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I mean, I kinda get what he's saying. These "assumptions" are based on hours upon hours of arguing on this sub. As such, I don't use the word "anecdotal" because its just used to dismiss someone's EXPERIENCE. But I love this whole post because you get to see how some people absolutely struggle to even wrap their brains around this. I think women lead with emotion and can support with logic. And men lead with logic and support with emotion. Not all, but most of the time this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 01:48 PM
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Stop assuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:46 PM
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I think a woman should care, because her "standards" should also dictate her own behavior and how she treats others. I often hear women talk about standards and then discuss how shitty they've treated men. And they will often ADMIT without understanding the implication. I had a coworker that cheated on her boyfriend. She said she had standards and wasn't willing to stick around. That's not standards. Thats rationalization after the fact so you don't feel like a shitty person for being shitty to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:43 PM
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If women are okay with a woman have sex with a random guy while making another guy wait then they need to be okay with what men will do when they find out they're the one waiting. Its hypocritical. I'm actually shocked any woman would be upset by the guy dumping her. This is clearly a woman that "doesn't just get it" when it comes to the basic understanding of men. Its incredibly tone deaf, and men should avoid such women like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:37 PM
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Agreed. It just seems their ego gets in the way and they want to look perfect rather than be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:23 PM
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It's just what I've noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 07:22 PM
2

Are all plain Janes promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:18 PM
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Plain janes are more fun in nearly every aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 06:05 PM
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It'd be refreshing to know she's treated other men like this due to it being her standard. However, its a moot point and not worth waiting for if its a rule in place because she's been burned by men. I get the need to improve, I just wouldn't consider her for a new 3 month wait due to her inability to pick better. Lets also make Hannah one point above you in attractiveness No, that'd be a no go. I've seen those relationships. Haven't seen one where the man got a "good deal" out of it. He's alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:59 PM
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Since your list did not include looks nor socio economic status just makes my job easier. I used to think this was just setting your sights low, though I don't anymore. My wife grew up dirt poor. Now, she's always been a sweet girl but I'd think she'd rather get shot then be forced to give a complement she didn't wholeheartedly believe. Fast forward 13 years and she recently admitted that she wouldn't be where she is now if it wasn't for me. I can kind of see that, because she couldn't even affo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 05:31 PM
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Awesome, so whats the more likely reason? I'm game, but unless there is some hawt alien species (that looks like a young Jeff Goldblum) women are dating, this data is pointing to a very simple reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:33 PM
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I don't swallow, so replace that with being assertive. I do all sorts of shit while I raise my 3 children. My wife and I are closing in on 200k per year total which affords us many things and many opportunities. You're a guy, why are you asking men about their qualifications? Why are you speaking for women? Why are you asking men to exercise humility when that won't ever get them sex from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:30 PM
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Got to be it to receive it. That's why these stances are fairly foolish. "Sell me on you." Its inherently a powerplay and you'll get dishonesty on both sides. TRP says go to the gym, diet, dress well, make money, etc. That’s good and all, but also pretty cookie cutter and well understood at this point. Well, then you forgot to actually do some basic TRP learning. One of the more important ideas is "You can't negotiate desire." What do you think women respect? Do they respect that I'm talking to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 04:11 PM
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Oh for Christ sake, really? This is impossible for you to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 03:02 AM
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...one you're paying to be there. The other wants to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:54 PM
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Okay, so this is where you go to MRP and start running their sidebar. Divorce or not, there's some obvious glaring flaws in your own mindset that's causing all this. And I'd bet if I started getting to the root problem, we'd see some crazy shit you let slide that you shouldn't have. And that's the info you should have led with, not this ambiguous bs I'm reading. 10 years of a shitty relationship doesn't translate to wisdom and you're too close to all this to see it clearly. You are expecting her…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:09 PM
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Both are at fault, so it's all men's fault Yes you are on one side. By "complete lack of personal responsibility" you do mean women. Quit the bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:32 AM
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Both are at fault but only men can fix themselves. Stop being a victim of women, they don't give a shit about you like you seem to give a shit about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:15 AM
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Lived in Germany for a few years. Prostitution is legal there. So many Eros centers. As for improving men's issues...It didn't and it won't. Just like porn didn't fix men. Going to a bar and getting a woman that's willing isn't the same a paying a girl to show up and fuck you. The difference should be fucking obvious. If not, well, I'll get a girl to pretend to like you for like 20k. Women and sex won't fix men's issues. Men must fix themselves. It might improve the quality of relationships too,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 05:10 AM
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"Why are weak men weak? They should just be strong!" What, you need a manual because you can't figure it out? Did you even reflect on this topic for a single second before writing your comment? Do you think it's anyone's problem but the complainer to fix. Just be strong means use your brain and solve your issues and stop thinking someone else has to do it for you. Men are built. They build themselves. It's not. But if they don't, they will have very very limited dating pools, especially when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 03:07 AM
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This is the result of a victim mindset and weak men. At some point you need to be mentally resilient enough to not take rejection from a small, physically weaker woman as some soul crushing event because they aren't interested. And it's worsened by some men's inability to be confident. So this sets women's creep'o'meter off right away. While I don't like the whole amoral aspect of RP, it gives the best advice on it's sidebar. And so does MRP's sidebar. BP advice doesn't need to be recognized by …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 10:23 PM
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Its very bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 08:30 PM
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I find it so weird that “commitment” is always presented as something men “have” that women want when it’s literally the opposite. Most men don't have that problem and the man you describe is so low level that they lack any type of average value. Shit tests, comfort tests, how women communicate indirectly...it all spells out that women need comfort like men need sex. If you're a young guy, you won't have status and if you aren't attractive, you won't get "free pussy". As men age and become more …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 02:32 PM
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Well, congratulations on being in the top 20 percent. This is not indicative of most men. And do you find commitment difficult or just not care to be committed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:28 PM
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It doesn't need to. You can go down the rabbit hole of evolutionary biology and stats if you'd like. I'm sure you can wring that rag for every droplet of water. But if you want answers, get a dna test.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:17 PM
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Well, not a literal tart. Aggr doesn't have the same appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:12 PM
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Good. Judging from the downvotes, someone doesn't like that parallel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:37 AM
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No. The opposite is a woman that gives sex easily if she knew it would get her commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:32 AM
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Ego, Tart. It pure ego. The one thing that makes men utterly weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:27 AM
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Did you mean that men would take care to pay all the bills and clean the house if they knew it would get them sex from their wives?? No, I don't mean that. I mean the exact opposite. Which is why I was being sarcastic with wtknight. He's being god damn clueless about his blue pill perspective. And it bleeds over when he puts his green hat on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:19 AM
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I agree. And women shouldn't. I'm just explaining what clueless men complain about when it comes to women's advice to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:16 AM
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Aka Women find commitment difficult and sex easy. Men find sex difficult and commitment easy. Regardless of sex, you hit the eject button on any spouse that does either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 02:49 AM
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Women don't get wet knowing a man can pay the bills. This is RP 101. Beta bux, Alpha fux.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 02:42 AM
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Its not hard to understand. The common denominator of that "combination" is a certain physical standard. Women don't lead with that when communicating with men. And the men that don't put that together are annoyed it wasn't directly communicated to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 02:41 AM
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A passive-aggressive nag against men that, should it even be fulfilled, still leaves resentment behind. Yeah, very fucking true. There is literally no way to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 10:18 PM
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Its dry as fuck, but has extremely valuable info in it. It should be called "verbal kung fu".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 08:40 PM
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Huh, I'll be damned. Not in the right place though. Should be in the spotting red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 08:14 PM
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FDS needs to put When I Say No, I Feel Guilty as mandatory reading. Its really good in spotting bullshit a mile away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 07:55 PM
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could actually turn women on in some poor country. Sure, because they don't want to be miserably poor. They aren't sexually attracted to a pay check. Again, if that were the case, you'd have a metric fuck ton of Bob's from accounting with Eastern European mail order brides. I also think a few women are actually turned on by genuinely nice behaviors, too. Which is why I use the book as an example. He's attractive already. The fact that he is doing a nice gesture isn't what is turning that chick o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 07:37 PM
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I think that some women are wired so that certain beta comfort traits are actually sexually attractive alpha traits to them. My wife got a "Foreplay" book from one of her cousins as a wedding gift. In it was a half naked buff dude petting bunnies, paying bills, cleaning out toilets and general husband stuff. Its funny to me because none of those things are actually true. You might have an odd duck or two, but the vast majority of women aren't going to find these this "hawt". If they did, every m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 07:18 PM
2

Can I say "race riots"? Or is that racially charged too? Top comments about race? Or is it the color I have to negate in order to uncharge it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:34 PM
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The one problem I have with PPD. If I was rude, using the "N word" or otherwise being disrespectful, I'd agree. This isn't a racially charged comment. This is an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 03:14 PM
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Get over what, mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 02:42 PM
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I hope it continues to be peaceful. I've been looking to get a low end PDW; 9mm to .40 caliber. They are all out of stock on every site. I have people I work with that have never owned guns before and they are buying several of them. Throw in Seattle's fuckery and you gotta wonder when this shit's going to pop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 02:41 PM
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So, a construction guy...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:45 AM
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Is a construction guy really giving me shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:38 AM
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Lol, I wouldn't call shoving a hellfire missile up someone's ass a office bitch. Though I owe that career to her. Sounds like you expected women to be men. I've trained Special Forces in Germany and I've worked with ex Calvary guys. None of them had any animosity towards women that I could tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:33 AM
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Then I don't have a clue who you worked for. I've worked Army and Air Force and I've seen some stellar men and women. They were good shots, caught shit that would make a jet fall out of the sky and generally looked out for you when someone had it out for you. The best boss I worked for was a two star female. You're lower physical standards and pull ups just tells me you're looking at it from the outside in, aka have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. It just looks like it makes sense o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:16 AM
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Lol. Oh god no.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:10 AM
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Military women lose bf quickly all the time. And you can imagine the pay being reduced is a VERY big motivator. If she didn't gain a lot of bf during the pregnancy, six weeks to 2 months and she's golden. Use prerecorded videos between now and then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:09 AM
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What, you don't like agree and amplify? You don't like amused mastery? Or are you not following me because you went full retard by being completely serious about linking mating choice to the ability to vote? But I guess personal responsibility is out fashion these days. That's it. You can't vote either. You went from "women can't vote due to who the fuck" to "personal responsibility is out of fashion". I mean, yeah, because you are taking one of their key abilities to be PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 01:02 AM
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Oh god, she could sell them breast milk...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:49 AM
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Lmao. Wonder what her audience would do if that were true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:42 AM
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That woman is someone I admire because of how ruthless she is I think she's brilliant in her execution too. Maybe I'm giving her too much credit but just look at how some beta men react to her. Who's the twitchy dude from 3H on youtube? He's got a great wife but that guy will buy her drool and bathwater like he was dying in the middle of a desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:32 AM
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Okay there, gatekeeper. There were plenty of female soldiers I trained with and work with that I'd pick to watch my back. We're all fucking stupid at 18. Look even now, you've said something a non-retarded adult would never say. Should we restrict you from voting for it? While were at it lets make sure pie fuckers and watermelon fuckers don't get to vote either. Fruity fuckers, the lot of 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:26 AM
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I find the best discussions are grounded on case studies or surveys with actual data. I might believe it, except its used dismissively with "citation please" and often the people that use it have minimal life experience. There have been a few good "studies or surveys" but when they are heavily negated by tone policing, its hard to take them seriously. There aren't that many studies, for instance, that paint women in a bad light. And socially, its fucking difficult to apply the scientific method …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 09:03 PM
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You don't even have to participate in TRP or MRP. Just run the sidebar. I wouldn't be calling them losers if you can't accomplish that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 07:13 PM
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But I also believe that this stuff works best with guys who have already had some sort of basic or moderate success in the dating world. Its just a case of joining up a few dots to make a difference. Ah, yeah. Good point. Didn't consider that. I can kinda get some men are just so far behind that bridging that gap can seem insurmountable. Doesn't mean they should quit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:25 PM
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Which is fine. But to blame a good answer that will help others because they can't seem to make it work is...well its like blaming your gym for you not showing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:09 PM
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It is, and if I remember correctly, you'd do best to use TRP and MRP to improve yourself. So imagine being the guy that has all answers in front of him and too weak to accomplish any them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 04:48 PM
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I would hope that it's obvious. If one woman was willing to be with this guy there are others. Its actually very unreasonable to think otherwise. The rest of this, as I will always maintain, is about men learning to have better boundaries with women in order to not have women be a burden to him. So yes, you can't negotiate desire. I'm just at a loss of how you don't then come to the conclusion that assertiveness is the correct avenue when dealing with women in relationships. Especially when near…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 02:22 PM
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it's not solvable for everyone Its solvable to any husband. The saying "save the man not the marriage" is intentional. And if you can't get the wife to come around you divorce. Do you see how all this boils down to fixing your shit, being assertive and then enforcing your boundaries? I think you have some victim mindset when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:04 PM
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That happens regularly? No, because they don't come back. Which is kinda funny because for me, it was initially a good way to take a verbal beating and be okay with people challenging you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 02:52 AM
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They are saying you don't have looks and hope you have a personality. Like I was hinting at before, if your personality sucks you have nothing to fall back on. Like your physical form, there are things you can do to improve your mental "attractiveness". But if you are just going to complain and give up, no one wants a ugly loser. Your looks don't arouse women and your personality doesn't invoke any positive feelings either. And I think it's worse to be mentally soft and weak than it is to be ugl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:15 PM
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Yes, I'm being sarcastic. In hopes that you, in the future, don't miss an obvious girl move. I mean, its the whole reason you take your date to a horror movie. Make that fear cuddle happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:19 PM
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...its like seeing both sides of a dead bedroom. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:09 PM
5

Yes. Make a move. Sit right back down say everything is good, your safe and break out the Chess board...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 07:07 PM
1

You seem more red pill than before. Is it just the topic? Or am I simply getting tired of the incel complaints? Clueless guys just need to be beaten over the head to learn. But we are all getting tired of the incel complaints hence me being more asshole than usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:38 PM
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Well, I don't look at them like I do a watch and wonder what they say about me. They feel good, they feel fun, and generally they're unhappy girls looking to let loose. Great opportunity if you can get over whatever is making you not fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:37 PM
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"I still don't know what that was about." Will this dude protect me? And if so, will this dude make a move on me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:35 PM
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If I went through your personal history will I find out you are equally unattractive in your personality as you are with your looks? Because fat chicks are fun. They do cooler shit in bed. Usually are good cooks. Seem way more appreciative too. A lot of dudes let their ego's cock block themselves. They get all judgmental like a mean girl. Like they literally embody a feminine psychology and hetero women don't want to fuck a girl dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:18 PM
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See, you're taking everything literally because you can't form a deeper or more complex understanding. But yes, I know, I have a computer science degree. Funny how I knew that'd be something you'd get and yet still not get.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:03 PM
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as if it's some kind of imposed oppressive expectation from men unto women. And its not oppressive men. Women what this more than men. And women expect men to be more like women when they aren't. Unless I missed some history lesson where men in the 1950's campaigned to be stay at home dads while women campaigned to enter the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:01 PM
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You know why this is incoherent to you? People don't make sense to you. Only assembly language zero's and one's. I cannot make something more coherent than blatantly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:46 PM
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Sigh, "free personal protection"? Really? I love how you are taking love and a need to care or protect into some sort of weird service. You make men look bad by making everything transactional and you make women look bad by misrepresenting what they find attractive and what they want from men. You aren't deconstructing gender roles. You are partitioning people into transactions and impersonal services. aka dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:17 PM
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Was it ever implied that women meant Quasimodo? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 05:00 PM
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Police? We had this stray cat that hung around our previous house. It pissed our two cats off something fierce. Stupid me left a window open, but the there was a screen between them. Two in the morning, there was this alien wail that was so god awful, I immediately got the shotgun and went to kill whatever was in my house. Cats nearly died that night, but I became fully awake before murder ensued. Imagine it was an actual emergency. Waiting even ten minutes for some police to get dispatched to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:58 PM
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Well, then I assume you're noticing the loud people over the rational people. Makes sense as it's more "entertaining". I like both, so I tend to see who's got valuable information I can steal while I watch some of the clown shows that occur. Its funny, I once listened to someone crazy person talk about extended fasting on the keto subreddit a few years ago. Saw how unbelievably successful extended fasting was. Same with MarriedRedPill. So while there are massive generalizations on both sides, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 04:25 PM
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That isn't a relationship problem, but a picking problem. And those sizeable minority of men fail themselves by not learning how to be assertive with women and have boundaries with those women. MRP has solved this with their sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:48 PM
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Maybe because I came from MRP and to some extent TRP, but if you think this is an echo chamber I hope you never become part of an echo chamber. I see plenty of blues, plenty of middle ground folks, and some smart reds that obviously learned a few things and can participate in a good faith argument or discussion. The rest are FDS or hardcore feminists or crazy RP/incel dudes that get run off for being completely unable to have a "good faith" discussion. I've seen it plenty of times with a handful…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 03:38 PM
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Right. But to indicate that it's a burden is to somehow "reprice" the current deal in hopes of getting better value while doing nothing else to earn the better deal. And when this comes from a RP guy, it's obvious they haven't done their homework as one of the hard and fast rules is "you can't negotiate desire".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:33 PM
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Yes, I remember. And no I don’t hang out with them. They’re just men who I know are in love or in strong like with me. I don’t engage them. But I know they exist. Which is the appropriate way to handle them. Especially if you're married. This is a good look for wives to have from the perspective of their husbands. Is the fact that she or I can admit that is the problem? Its how you handle it that's important. You aren't bragging. You have boundaries. That's how an adult handles this. I have no p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:14 PM
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Congratulations and good luck. So where does a girl like me find these mythical men who dont want to fuck? Most male adults have developed boundaries and respect them. I think your ego is inflating any passing interest or notice that you are attractive as wildly thirsty beta orbiters.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 02:04 PM
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It's the "I'm wife material" because I'm attractive that I don't agree with. I still have like 5 stalkers (orbiters) who would commit tomorrow And to me, this says more than I'm attractive and assume my male friends want to fuck me. It says I know without a shadow of a doubt because they've made it known in a very direct manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:59 PM
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There isn't. Men that say this don't have very good boundaries and have a problem defending what little boundaries they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:53 PM
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All a woman's male friends want to fuck her If you know they want to fuck you and would be in a relationship with you tomorrow, they aren't your friends. I've had plenty of female friends I didn't want to fuck. That's why men will exchange commitment and never marry these types of women. They are giving off forever gf vibes, not wife material.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:50 PM
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I still have like 5 stalkers (orbiters) who would commit tomorrow even though ive been in a relationship for 7+ That might be an indicator to you. Smarter men, if they knew you had beta orbiters, would drop you because that's not a sign of quality but a sign you lack fundamental boundaries and can't be trusted in relationships. Are you a wife or a forever gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:33 PM
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"I'm going to say shit that puts you in a deficit so work harder" (which is what you are doing). Its a bad look on anyone who employs it. Relationships aren't a burden. Perhaps you aren't relationship material and thus you are artificially inflating YOUR value just like when women do this. I think we are exceedingly good at finding our "match" values in a relationship. Shitty women don't like this and they use the "I could do better" mindset to restrict themselves from their partner while at the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:18 PM
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You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:40 AM
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The girl is following his lead in sex without commitment. What she said to him clearly says she wants a relationship if he's open to it. He's calling her a savage for following him into this FWB arrangement. Its hypocritical, he doesn't understand how women communicate, and he's so misinformed about women that he's intentionally holding this one at bay...and then has the silliness to call her "savage" over a situation he created, won't change even when she wants to change it to relationship stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 01:29 AM
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Back in my askTRP days, this was a very common worry. And it was a worry from men that didn't do enough work on the sidebar and enough self reflection over who and what they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 11:08 PM
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That might be part of it, but that’s a completely reasonable concern to have. Its not when you have an issue with women fucking you without commitment when you are busy fucking them without commitment. Its not a reasonable concern for doing the exact same thing WITH YOU. Its hypocritical and it lacks a healthy degree of self reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:38 PM
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That's what I caught too. He can't call women savages and then patriciate in savagery without being hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:23 PM
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I don’t even wanna get into the implications of how that mentality would affect fidelity in LTRs I've been doing this long enough that's the end of the road. That he's somehow "shocked" by this, yes, he's fearing getting close to women so he doesn't get hurt. Your attitude makes it sound like you’re saying that men should be lucky to be able to sleep with women at all. Its not, and that couldn't be furthest from my own view point. You're hearing a tone that isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:17 PM
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Her - "Hey I'm kinda into you and I'd like to have a relationship but I'm too immature to actually have a direct conversation with you so hopefully this fuck buddy convo lets you get the hint. Imma cool girl like that." You - THESE SAVAGES! Sun, take a good hard look at what you are able to participate in and be complicit with before fearing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 07:28 PM
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All those people who are extremly bitter or resentful never left the red pill rage phase Exactly, because they're too weak to get over it. And they look at women to fill that "gap" in themselves that they could never fix. Queue the downward spiral of disappointment and resentment. Now blame the opposite sex for not solving your issues for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 03:02 PM
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At it's core, I think resentment is for the weak minded. If you hate women or men and cannot appreciate them for what they are, then you expect the opposite sex to act like you. And get disappointed when they don't act like you. Any woman or man that is sad over this shit doesn't want to accept that men and women are different. Furthermore, they didn't put in the effort to truly understand HOW they are different. So they go the gay route because at least they understand their side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 02:53 PM
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Emotional Neglect - Which came first? The crazy or the cat? I think crazy cat ladies are crazy because they can't net a dude. It slowly warps them over time. Protection - When something wakes them up in the middle of the night, do you know any woman that has a gut reaction to go kill whatever is trying to get in the house? I don't. Financial...Ever make double your paycheck? They may not need two, but it's a way different world. Raise a family I've got three of them. Single mothers are miserable…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 11:34 PM
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Like nearly every thing. Its easy to not fail. Difficult to get it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 02:10 AM
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Suddenly the woman who did not want us and was like LJBF, decides she does want us. She had free delicious attention from a guy. Has you trained and when you don't sit when she says sit, she ups the Pavlov response. But just to be clear, you're never going to get her ever. She's just playing you. I feel guilty when I say no is one of the best books out there in assertiveness training. Mental Kung Fu.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:28 PM
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Sure they can be choosers. Pussy's great, but no man wants a cunt. I suspect those broken men also have zero tolerance for women just like you have zero tolerance for men. Its convenient in a "You can't fire me because I quit" kind of way. I just don't know why people call it zero tolerance and blame the opposite sex when really they just suck and no one wants to be around them. That's how beggars become choosers. But I do agree with you, there's healthier ways to find validation...unless you su…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 06:55 PM
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Its far more grey area in that it's definitely not a stereotypical beta relationship. Unless you assume women are shit and they're just there to deepthroat your wallet and have constant "headaches" when you want them to deepthroat your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 06:20 PM
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Or some men have standards and paying someone is a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:46 PM
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Its an easy answer. Treat it all like a collective shit test. I don't know why men want to point out the hypocrisy of these clueless girls and get spun up over what boils down to projection. There's so much comedy there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:08 PM
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Sigh. This guys so off base I'd hoped someone would light him up. Only the "valueless" would come to his conclusion. Only a guy that can't even rise to being a "betabuxxers" would say stupid shit like he is. Only someone who lacks the ingenuity and personal success would misunderstand what combined resources can accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:57 AM
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Betas don't "pay" for a wife. They benefit from a second income and/or free childcare. From a woman's perspective, sure. My wife and I did a metric fuck ton of childcare for all three of our children. So did daycare, which we easily afforded. Also, the AF does not get any of that. You misunderstand what all men want. Women care about this, not men. Nor do they get the love, companionship, time, and devotion that the woman gives to her husband. And its wonderful. Hallow if the desire isn't there.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:40 AM
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female companionship even if it means sacrificing resources and self respect to do so. On the self respect part, are there any married men you would deem respectable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 02:26 AM
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In the context of sexual strategies, the Alpha gets for free what the beta has to pay quadruple for and get a fourth of the return. In the grand scheme of things, all us betas have it easier now. The gig is up. Its easier to have boundaries, easier to tell women no, easier to walk away if you aren't getting what you need. This affords all sorts of opportunity. And if your wife isn't an asshat, you might end up liking them even more and enjoying your life with her. Women think they're the prize. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 02:17 AM
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I'm not sure why the comments veered off into sperm jacking You are asking why men should be CONCERNED. This is one reason. But yeah, I get what you're saying so there's no CMV on my side. However, these RP men aren't your husband. They're more unattractive and have to deal with women that don't mind treating them poorly. Remember, every RP guy had a positive image of all women. It changed when they actually started interacting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 07:54 PM
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The undertone of the OP is that women do no wrong. I assume Phil hasn't been a evil chick. But there are evil chicks out there. After I got cheated on, nearly shot and had to put a restraining order on a ex, I think I'll just pay attention to my spouses motivation from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 06:22 PM
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I always thought it was designed as "how to be fun" training wheels for boring guys. The idea that their dancing monkeys has victim mindset stamped all over it. You want to give women what they want! Dancing monkey! You're not really like that? Well women want a crazy fucker that'll love 'em or cut them up into pieces! Damn women, why you no like boring dudes, this is all your fault!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:20 PM
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Projection. They want men to have experience. They think men want an experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:49 PM
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Its like this. Lets have a mature conversation where I don't get to see how a woman fits into my life. Instead, I'll have to NOT react while getting a mental image of X amount of cocks that SHE'S had inside of her before me. What a turn off. Its not an insecurity and I wish several women had shut up about who they were with. They should have because it then became hard to see them as LTR material even though that's exactly why they explained shit in gory detail. Everyone should just shut up unle…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:11 PM
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Well, she lost everything in that attempted branch swinging. Other dude went away too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 08:08 PM
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