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| 4 | Does the transsexual experience support gender essentialism? | Purple Discussion | TyrianXIII | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/14 10:30 PM |
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| 0 | Q for Purple Pillers: What about you is blue, and what about you is red?Since my nickname in highschool was "Weyoun", let's use a Deep Space 9 Analogy: TRP believes the Jem'Hadar are more alpha than the Vorta. But when you really look at it, TRP is to pussy what the Jem'Hadar is to white. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/14 03:04 AM |
| 10 | Question for Blue: What's the problem with this strategy?"His behavior isn't immoral, his semantics are!" --The dying breath of bluepill intellectualism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/14 02:37 AM |
| 3 | "Red Pill" as behavior, not philosophyIf TRP just came out and said we prefer a certain kind of relationship dynamics where the man leads and the woman follows and here's how to find that and next the people who don't conform, I can't see how that could offend people It says the man optimizes his reproductive strategy by preferring this "certain kind" of relationship. There are no naturals in TRP -- the men are taught to prefer this type of relationship to please women. (Which is beta as fuck, imho, hence purple) edit: Would anyone … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/14 09:50 PM |
| 3 | What does your side get wrong?Yes, certainly. :) It is quite a shame that very few on either side choose to observe the protocols of polite disagreement. Now, the final piece, Having given to me that women are free to reward behavior as it pleases them, and given that, certainly, at least some women reward disrespect, is the man who disrespects this woman her enemy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/14 02:07 AM |
| 3 | What does your side get wrong?The woman that rewards this disrespect, is she your enemy too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/14 01:25 AM |
| 2 | What does your side get wrong?Honest question: Are you contemptuous of the women that undermine "common sense" by reinforcing disrespect via sexual selection? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 08:25 PM |
| 4 | What does your side get wrong?Anyone else think schrödinger's rapist is usually a black guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/14 07:59 PM |
| 7 | Humans Can't Be Empathetic And Logical At The Same TimeI'm not interested in which gender is more irrational any more than I am which race is more irrational. When we start thinking like that, we are indulging in the "lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism." If men are more irrational or less irrational, how would knowing that serve me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/14 06:02 PM |
| 1 | First post regarding attraction to dominance ( for tbp women )When I stopped assuming that women are just like me, as I was always told, and started operating under the tactical assumption that they do not demand as much deference as I do, everything changed for me. You are, however, correct. I should not discount the possibility that my analysis of this change in their disposition is flawed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/14 06:32 PM |
| 0 | First post regarding attraction to dominance ( for tbp women )And also yes, it is looks that leads to attraction in women. Pretty much every study ever confirms that looks are always number 1 when it comes to "animalistic attraction." All the women in my life had told me I was a "good-looking guy who just hadn't met the right woman." It was only when I accepted that women irrationally pursue submission, abandoned my feminist sensibilities, and stopped treating women like men that I actually had enough evidence to believe them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/14 06:00 PM |
| 0 | Do you think society is being feminized?I'm saying it's no longer something that can be blindly accepted as fact. The culture wars being "over" should have been correctly identified as rhetorical hyperbole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/14 07:14 PM |
| 0 | Do you think society is being feminized?the circles where traditional gender roles are enforced are more common. If this is the post-postmodern 21st century and the culture wars are over, I don't think that is necessarily the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/14 06:48 PM |
| 2 | Western Bias?Truly, the culture of european whites is the most progressed of all the cultures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/14 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Study: Men and Women Happier with ChivalryTRP teaches that the disposability of males is a rational population growth strategy, but when the world is overpopulated and three billion people MUST die, perhaps we need to rethink our "population growth" attitude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/14 10:32 PM |
| 1 | I am the virgin loser strawman you all talk off. Ask me anything.How you like Marine Le Pen? Is she still relevant over there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/14 10:24 PM |
| 1 | I am the virgin loser strawman you all talk off. Ask me anything.Of course it is, but a little bit of psychological damage never hurt anyone. It certainly doesn't justify humiliating yourself by indulging in the exploitation of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/14 09:57 PM |
| 1 | I am the virgin loser strawman you all talk off. Ask me anything.Oh, I completely agree that the people bitching about incel are spineless, and the idea of "psychological damage" in general is pretty overrated. I'm not sure why you're talking to me, Tyrian Purple, about what RPM think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/14 09:44 PM |
| 1 | I am the virgin loser strawman you all talk off. Ask me anything.Hehehe~ Kid, you're alright. Are you on team "CAN'T FLIMFLAM THE ZIMZAM" or team "CAN'T CORNER THE DORNER"? :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/14 09:27 PM |
| 1 | I am the virgin loser strawman you all talk off. Ask me anything.My point is that telling people that they are silly for being depressed and ashamed for suffering from involuntary celibacy is unconscionable, given the importance of sex in the human psyche. It is only in the past few years that acquiring sex is finally as thoughtless to me as acquiring food or water, or anything else on the baseline of Maslow's pyramid. The stress from involuntary celibacy surely affected me psychologically, but it was ultimately productive, once I stopped self-medicating with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/14 09:11 PM |
| 1 | I am the virgin loser strawman you all talk off. Ask me anything.You are wrong for being ashamed. You are wrong for being depressed. Exploit those who have no alternative but to sell their body. Be a good prole and it will help your self-image. Suppress bad feelings with mind-altering substances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/14 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Do you think women can make good friends?Yes, I am quite certain this part of my brain is somewhat defective, and I compensate with a rigorous intellectual attempt at understanding the underlying behavioral psychology. Your reminder of what "like most people" do is much appreciated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/14 01:04 AM |
| 2 | Do you think women can make good friends?"Establishing value" here is used exactly the same as what you called "to size someone up", just from the other role. It must be known fact which party, if any, desires anything romantic before their motives can be reliably determined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/14 12:28 AM |
| 4 | Do you think women can make good friends?The man could be the one deciding the woman's sexual value is too low for a more intimate relationship as well. Actually, I find the friendships that have come from that scenario to be much more comfortable than when the woman decides my sexual value is too low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 10:55 PM |
| -1 | The ideal male lifestyleThe house is an analogy for the stature of one's lineage. The blood is an analogy for one's genetic lineage. The tradition is an analogy for one's memetic lineage. The "paramount survival" is an analogy for the survival of the lineage, where the individual is just a unit in the collective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 09:09 PM |
| 3 | Do you think women can make good friends?Some of my most valuable friends have been women, but for hetero women it seems this process can only take place after our perceptions of our own and each other's Sexual Value has been established. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 09:06 PM |
| -1 | The ideal male lifestyleI am simply a man presenting his lifestyle and ideals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 08:56 PM |
| -1 | The ideal male lifestyleYes, both of those works were definitely required reading growing up. :) Karma be damned: that's definitely my position, and I could not care less about internet points on a throwaway specifically made for this experiment of "figuring out where I belong" on this new political axis. I just simply can't resist calling it out when I see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Does the transsexual experience support gender essentialism?I was speaking more to the process by which they come to the realization that their blood be the blood of a woman. The process by which the individual realizes that their true nature is one of the opposite sex. It is intrinsic, the expectations of others is irrelevant, only one's own notions apply here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Does the transsexual experience support gender essentialism?Ah, you have stirred in my mind another interesting hypothesis: Is gendered behavior apparent in those who are unable to learn what is expected of their sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Does the transsexual experience support gender essentialism?Then of course, the only question remaining is whether or not this "je ne sais quoi", this spectre in one's own mind of a self-as-woman, ultimately derives from the experience and rationalization of the "incorrect" gender imperative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Does the transsexual experience support gender essentialism?Although I have always found it difficult to successfully broach minority politics in casual conversation, when I do, every transwoman has said that being a woman is more than just the physical aspects, which are superficial, but ventures out into the territory of the "je ne sais quoi" of the feminine spirit. Although it's admittedly a lame argument, your explanation does not meet my anecdotal experience. The purpose of the physical transformation is purely social -- to encourage others to recog… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 06:40 PM |
| 1 | The ideal male lifestyleI am laying down the foundations for my house, blood & tradition to survive and flourish, feminism or contra-feminism be damned. None of us are entitled to this paramount survival: even the liberals only suggest we are entitled to the lesser, temporal & corporeal survival. edit: -1? That'll teach me to disagree, will it? Purples have no friends here. edit: Either my griping was premature, or we have a sniping problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 05:44 PM |
| 4 | Does the transsexual experience support gender essentialism?I fear you have reduced the transsexual experience to nothing more than a Body Integrity Identity Disorder of the sex organs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 05:29 PM |
| 4 | Does the transsexual experience support gender essentialism?feminine trans men How do you define the word "feminine" in this context? The word "man"? edit: It appears you do not believe that either biological sex or essential gender is what informs the transperson's gender identity. Do you posit the existence of some "third mechanism" that only trans people possess? In line with question 2B, which criteria for the definition of "mental illness" does the third mechanism meet? If we define mental illness thusly: Mental illness: "A condition that changes a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 02:07 AM |
| 2 | Does the transsexual experience support gender essentialism?Yes, with a particular emphasis on gendered behavior (As opposed to gender identity, to which the individual's understanding of the binary sexes is trivially antecedent.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/14 12:51 AM |
| 0 | If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRPYou are right, my intention was to qualify that TRP does not suggest maximizing sexual success per se (as a potential parsing of the word "in order" may read). How does "should" instead of "may" sound? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/14 09:57 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pill isn't "beta"Under the sex/commitment theory of gendered behavior, the counterpart would be a woman who dominates (vs. male supplication) in the commitment-pursuit (vs. the sex-pursuit) Supposing freely here, with no loyalties except that my personal philosophy is far more well-received in TRP (which regrettably means my allegiance will likely be ultimately solved by expedience) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/14 06:44 PM |
| 1 | If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRPThen the debate shall reveal his own flawed understanding of statistics, unless he is washed in some subhuman-level ignorance. Only for these, the subhumans, would I dare say "Best not even try, then." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/14 06:34 PM |
| 1 | If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRPFair enough, but I still believe it is productive and important for laypersons to argue the meaning of a scientific study, to argue its implications & merits, and to allow our understanding to progress and evolve. To shift ideas in our own mind from "unknown unknowns" to "known unknowns", is always a noble thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/14 06:25 PM |
| 1 | If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRPHow dare those proles try to advance their understanding of a difficult subject through socratic debate! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/14 06:10 PM |
| 1 | If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRPI would change this sentence to read From these theories, the red pill then suggests that certain behaviours may maximise success in interacting with men/women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/14 06:06 PM |
| 0 | Women and emotional intelligence - what do redpillers have to say about contradictory evidence?This is all political movements in the 21st century. The vulgar speak on behalf of the refined, and incorporate their allegiance into their identity, turning the quest for truth into a vehicle for the expression of cultural dominance. Anyone who thinks that this doesn't happen to "their people" is a fool blinded by confirmation bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/14 10:55 PM |
| 1 | So, the BPers have spoken, so I'll ask the opposite question - RPers, how was your sex life with people who were non-RP and how did it differ from your RP partners?I'm also not sure what you mean by non-RP, I've never dated a woman who was RP-aware. My first girlfriend stole cars and sold drugs, and made a mockery of my affection for her at every turn. After the relationship, she taught me a lot about the way men and women work. We remain good friends. Another was a feminist, we had a temporary fling, she broke it off and told me she had a boyfriend the whole time. We remained good friends until she allowed an academic dispute on the proper methodology to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/14 10:50 PM |
| 15 | He's coming for us aka the retroactive male hamster.A sight he'll never see -- how many more love letters receives the man he locked away. edit: Also, "raping science" in the comments. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/01/14 06:47 PM |
| 5 | Is anyone else worried about the men?The more redpill I became, the less isolated I felt, as I was better and better able to command the respect of my peers. But perhaps ironically, I was merely choosing to obey every bougie liberal fuck that told me to "stop crying over women, you aren't entitled to their affection." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/14 01:26 AM |
| 3 | Guy finds out his buddy is unknowingly dating a former porn star and wants advice. r/relationships reaction? "A woman is about to be held responsible for her actions? Quick, white knights! To the Chivalrymobile, away!"It leads one to wonder, if merely viewing pornography skews ones perceptions, how must one be affected by being a participant in its production? | /r/TheRedPill | 26/12/13 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Questions and thoughts about LMRI do not tolerate last minute resistance in any form. If she says she doesn't want, and consequently doesn't get, then if she really wanted after all she missed out, not me. With the issue of sexual consent, I side with the feminists -- I refuse to tolerate ambiguity. People who shy away from direct communication are the epitome of cowardice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/13 09:26 PM |
| 5 | I have (basically) given up. (Warning: wall of text)If the frame is difficult to maintain, then you're not in your own frame, you're in what somebody else told you your frame should be. You are supplicating to an abstract standard of behavior. | /r/TheRedPill | 20/12/13 10:02 PM |
| 1 | What makes you take your stance?I am Tyrian -- Royal Purple. I cannot endure the woman with either the servile RPW mentality or the typical feminist victim narrative. Both are pathetic in strikingly similar ways: a voluntary self-alienation from the power process. I cannot respect such a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/13 02:59 AM |
| 2 | What's TRP's response to the retraction of alpha/beta theory of wolves by the very scientists that came up with it?Correct. It is a cultural construct -- a manufactured schema for understanding. A necessary shorthand to describe a complex topic. I recall that Donald Knuth "made-up" the up-arrow notation, but no one disputes its legitimacy. edit: I would point out, as a favor, that there is a related question that more "falsifiable" and less "semantic", which reads something like "Does the sexual success of human males follow a bimodal distribution?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 02:39 AM |
| 2 | Honest question: How do you TRP fellas truly feel about sluts?Because he thinks she is undeserving of a "good" man (as defined by him) because she's had a bunch of sex before him. Who said that? Feel free to explain the difference in terms of how a woman having 100 previous sexual partners changes her sexual market value, outside of it lowering in your head due to your moral constructs around sex and fairness. Although I would argue that it has nothing to do with morality, it is true that my valuation only diminishes because of my own psychological process… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/12/13 10:55 PM |
| 2 | Honest question: How do you TRP fellas truly feel about sluts?Note the word "deserve". How fucked up is that? It's the same as women who say they "deserve" a good man who "treats her like a queen". Nobody deserves anything. How does what the guy said contradict your statement that "nobody deserves anything?" No one gets mad at a dog fucking. Other dogs do. I'm not in the same sexual marketplace as a dog. | /r/TheRedPill | 13/12/13 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers: do any of you want to grow old with a woman?Of course, I had always fantasized about growing old with someone else. But along the way I had to make the conscious decision to not allow that fantasy to leave myself vulnerable to spiritual & material ruin. In some sense, I see RedPill as the ritualistic murder of the "hope to marry" and the attendant sufferings that come with that hope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/13 02:23 AM |
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