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The more correct answer is that men who don’t get laid are either too inhibited, too selective, or both. If you don’t have any standards on who you fuck, there are a million options out there, and if you take initiative towards fucking those options, you would get laid quite a bit. This applies to women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:41 PM
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We’re not congratulating them on their misery, we’re congratulating them on getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 09:05 PM
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I don't see how making money can't be a passion/purpose of yours if that's something you're passionate about.
/r/seduction03/07/21 05:14 AM
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Bro you still live with your parents at 24 with a good career? That’s an absolute goldmine right there. All the money you make you can take home and invest. Fuck women dude... if I was in your position, I’d just continue to make my pile of gold bigger and bigger every year.
/r/seduction01/07/21 02:20 AM
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No one mentioned there’s only two kinds of men. There’s definitely at least three.
/r/seduction22/05/21 07:26 AM
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That’s not stupid, rich guys do score, especially when they stfu and the girl finds out about it without him mentioning or hinting at it
/r/seduction22/05/21 01:26 AM
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She was going 60 in a 25
/r/PussyPassDenied20/04/21 01:00 AM
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The real question is, how many of these are "good enough" if you're good looking?
/r/seduction23/01/21 12:29 AM
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I love this. Free entertainment.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/12/20 02:49 AM
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I've noticed girls tend to be very "in the moment". In the moment they gave you their number, they might've been genuinely excited to want to go out with you. Maybe when you texted them back, they weren't in the same mood as before. It's also an environment and vibe sort of thing. You might've met them where the atmosphere made them really open to meeting new people. Now that you're following up with them, it's not the same environment. Of course in many situations, there won't actually be a lot…
/r/seduction16/12/20 12:08 AM
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I've always hated the "walk this way" kinds of advice. Most people who follow these just look like they're compensating for something. Imagine being so insecure and in need of validation that you micromanage your walk to give a false impression to others who might not even know you exist. Even if these people are hiding it well, just walking however you wanna walk because you don't give a fuck what other people think is a better mindset to have.
/r/seduction11/12/20 09:05 AM
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Lol the judge probably knew her story was bullshit way before she could tell the 6th different version
/r/PussyPassDenied22/11/20 09:05 PM
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I think 5 women are bullying a girl. Idk tho.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/11/20 08:36 AM
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This is what I said. "There's something repulsive about people who just treat others nicely because they want something from them" What i described isn't norms of reciprocity. What i described is quid pro quo and is therefore exploitation. For it to be norms of reciprocity, the other person would have to WANT or FEEL OBLIGED to return the favor. That wasn't indicated at all from what I said, all that was indicated was the intent to gain. Regardless, you can ask literally anyone how they feel abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 08:55 PM
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Norms of reciprocity isn’t treating others nicely because you want something from them. That’s called exploitation. You can USE norms of reciprocity to exploit, and in that case it’s repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:22 PM
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There’s something absolutely repulsive about people who just treat others nicely because they want something from them. You can judge a person pretty well by the way they treat those who can’t do anything for them. It won’t get you laid, you’re right. What it can do is make you look like a far shittier person than you would be otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:21 PM
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Yeah... idk if these people are the type you can reason with
/r/PussyPassDenied20/10/20 01:30 PM
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People are so easily manipulated into believing whatever conclusion it is that others want them to believe. Or more likely, they just give people half of the puzzle and allow them to see what they want to see so they can fill in the blanks themselves.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/10/20 03:58 AM
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If she looked liked a beached decomposing whale on a steady diet of mcdonalds, she would've been harpooned after the first insult.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/10/20 05:08 PM
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Hey this is good advice for guys too I think
/r/seduction17/08/20 04:19 AM
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Lord of the flies was the book that helped me understand the significance of symbolism and how fundamental symbolic reasoning is in being able to get the deeper meaning of things. What's funny is that I didn't find out how important this book was. It wasn't until years later when something clicked and I immediately thought "ohhh so this is what lord of the flies was all about" in both it's message and it's symbolism that I learned to appreciate it for what it was.
/r/seduction03/08/20 04:38 AM
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Instruction unclear, 27 and still kissless
/r/seduction02/08/20 12:48 PM
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"Tomorrow isn't guaranteed" isn't good. It IS true. The advice "you might not have a chance in front of you again" is different from "tomorrow isn't guaranteed". The former is probably a more accurate representation of reality than the latter, and the decisions made from such a position would therefore be more beneficial. "memento mori" is also different from "tomorrow isn't guaranteed". Living life and making decisions based off the knowledge that you'll eventually die will result in different …
/r/seduction31/07/20 06:29 AM
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Yeah it sucks for everyone all around. I guess it depends though, some might have it easier than others. Good luck to you too!
/r/seduction31/07/20 06:18 AM
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Well first you'd have to know why you can't approach a girl. So why do you feel you can't? Or that it's not possible?
/r/seduction31/07/20 05:48 AM
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"Make now matter" is a good message, but "tomorrow isn't guaranteed" isn't. That perspective is coming from a place of emotion, fear, scarcity, etc. It's a mentality that doesn't factor in the reality that though tomorrow isn't guaranteed, the chances of tomorrow happening is still highly likely. It's a mentality that prevents foresight, planning, investment, preparation, etc. The good thing about that mentality is that it increases motivation and causes a person to take action. The choice to ac…
/r/seduction31/07/20 05:42 AM
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Although that's a concern, embarrassment and shame are still the top reasons guys don't want to get rejected. Expressing interest in someone takes a lot of vulnerability. Additionally, it changes a relationship if this is a person you'll be seeing often. To the extent that relationship is changed will depend.
/r/seduction31/07/20 05:28 AM
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I think when we reach these conclusions, we have to take a step back. Yes, we aren't guaranteed tomorrow, but odds are that there will be a tomorrow. Success in many aspects of life, including dating, doesn't come from a "yolo" mentality, it comes from preparation, investment, and playing the long game. Taking risks isn't always the way to go either. Taking action is, but not all action has to be risky, and the rationale behind that action can't be "because there might not be a tomorrow" since t…
/r/seduction31/07/20 05:15 AM
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Women aren't ambiguous in what they find attractive, especially when it comes to height. [Proc Biol Sci. 2017 Dec 20; 284(1869): 20171819. Published online 2017 Dec 13. doi: 10.1098/rspb.2017.1819] [Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2013 Apr 23; 110(17): 6925–6930. Published online 2013 Apr 8. doi: 10.1073/pnas.1219361110] [Stulp, G., Buunk, A. P., Kurzban, R. & Verhulst, S., Jul-2013, In : Animal Behavior. 86, 1, p. 37-46 10 p.].html) Even if they were, stating counterexamples and anecdotal evidence wo…
/r/seduction26/07/20 06:31 PM
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They're not teaching you how to hunt, they're telling you what they find attractive. It's a fact, women generally find taller guys attractive.
/r/seduction26/07/20 05:35 PM
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Oh yeah that's the other thing, you miss 100% percent of the shots you don't take, but take the shot and miss and you're jobless with a restraining order.
/r/seduction25/07/20 06:24 PM
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Again, i'm not saying that playing the numbers game won't get you results. I'm saying that rejection comes at a cost people fail to acknowledge, whether that's lost time, lost energy, lost confidence, etc. Even then, playing the numbers game might not even be the best strategy in the long run if your goal is to get women, in the same way taking a shot no matter how contested it is every time you touch the ball isn't conducive to winning the game.
/r/seduction25/07/20 06:22 PM
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This isn't only about validation. This is about all the consequences of rejection. For one, rejection to some might not be a big deal, but to others, it's demoralizing enough that it'll dictate their future interactions beyond dating. Also, to continue with the analogy, timely assists can mean more than taking dumb shots. Why not leverage your advantage as a guy and invest in yourself and your career until the balance of power in the dating pool switches with age? While you spent your 20s chasin…
/r/seduction25/07/20 06:12 PM
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I think that's whole saying about "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take". What people don't realize is that if you take the shot and you miss, you just proved to your team that you aren't able to make the shot. If you had missed this shot before the cutoff, you could be cut from the team, as opposed to waiting until after when you have more security to take the shot. People who propagate that message tend not to talk about the consequences of missing shots. I'm not saying fortune doesn't fa…
/r/seduction25/07/20 09:02 AM
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But how do you know it was that particular compliment and the content of that compliment, not for example, the delivery of the compliment, or the change in frame and atmosphere that a compliment creates
/r/seduction17/07/20 11:28 AM
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But how do you know they became flirty and receptive because of the particular compliment about their clothing and not for any other reason?
/r/seduction17/07/20 10:51 AM
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Omg!! Those jeans are SOOO cute!
/r/seduction17/07/20 10:38 AM
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Why u insult potatoes like that?
/r/PussyPassDenied10/07/20 12:40 AM
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​ So yeah, knowing that you are a catch will change the outcome That's wrong. Even if your experience or your friends experience says otherwise. just by itself it makes you more attractive than the other guy who tries to "compete" for a girl Wrong. Again, just because you give less fucks doesn't necessarily make you more attractive Attraction isn't "complex". If a girl considers you above her league she is attracted. If you are a leader in interaction she is automatically attracted. Again, not n…
/r/seduction09/07/20 06:15 AM
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Wrong. Caring less won't necessarily make you more attractive because what's considered "attractive" puts into account many different variables on top of the girl's preferences. The guy could be qualifying himself to the girl but if he's got more social proof and he's better looking and she's into it, it won't matter how little shits you give, you're probably fucked. You can't just reduce something as complex as attraction into one variable... That's nonsense. And before you say "being outcome i…
/r/seduction09/07/20 05:22 AM
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You can just be like "nah i'm a virgin" with a smirk. She'll get the message, which won't matter to her either way because you communicated what you needed to like you mentioned.
/r/seduction08/07/20 11:07 PM
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Being physically attractive or having a lot of girls around you (social proof). Other suggestions might get the girl's attention like having high energy or peacocking, but might also turn her off because you're obviously trying to seek attention.
/r/seduction08/07/20 11:01 PM
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Knowing you're a catch won't change the outcome of the girl leaving with the other guy if she finds him more attractive.
/r/seduction08/07/20 10:59 PM
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Cockatoos don’t get enough credit. I think we give pandas more credit than they deserve
/r/PussyPassDenied19/06/20 12:01 PM
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Admitting you’re wrong doesn’t mean you’re any more or less intelligent. It just means you aren’t as invested on being right. That could be for many reasons like having a more agreeable personality, seeking common ground, or just not caring enough about the subject.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/06/20 12:55 PM
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I think these replies are missing the point. She shouldn’t treat men like that because “they could be rich”. She shouldn’t treat men like that PERIOD. In fact... She shouldn’t treat ANYONE like that, regardless of their net worth.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/03/20 08:59 AM
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Agreed. People think I’m happy when I’m actually dead inside. Where’s my academy award?!
/r/PussyPassDenied05/02/20 06:26 PM
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What makes you think this is something I give a fuck about? Not once did I make a value statement. If the point you’re trying to make is “women prefer tall men, but it doesn’t matter” like I said, idc whether it matters or not. What I’m saying can be summed up in 4 words: Women. Prefer. Tall. Men. Anything beyond that is “mental masturbation” by your definition. Of course, it’s only “mental masturbation” if it’s a dialogue you don’t agree with. And no, this has nothing to do with “scarcity” or “…
/r/seduction04/02/20 05:06 PM
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It’s not surprising. If anything it makes sense. Using rational arguments is less effective for changing minds. Trump leverages exposure and emotion. Same thing Hitler did. Confidence plays a role, but it’s only one of the variables.
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:26 PM
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Lol this comment was an absolute rollercoaster from start to finish.
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:17 PM
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I was starting to think no one would notice! Lol. I don’t mind the downvotes. I’m used to the echo chamber nature of reddit. It’s funny how subs like these pride themselves in their “wokeness” yet are just as (if not more) deluded than the people they consider to be “sheep”.
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:13 PM
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Just because they’ll suck a short guy’s dick doesn’t mean women don’t prefer tall men. You 100% missed the point. I guess that makes sense though... if you’re gonna use the “black pill” card, you’re probably just as logically inept as those baboons.
/r/seduction04/02/20 04:01 PM
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Yes I’m 5’5, and yes I can get results if I want. Whether I’m short or tall doesn’t matter. Whether I’m constantly thinking about my height doesn’t matter. Whether I get results or not doesn’t matter. Whether I’m wearing a white lab coat while I’m telling you this doesn’t matter. That’s because none of that changes this fact. Women (as a whole) prefer tall men. Therefore, short guys have it harder. Here’s an example. Stanford likes students with 4.0 gpas. If I was a student with a 3.5 gpa, I cou…
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:36 PM
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Yeah, people decide they know you better than than you know yourself from a short statement you make. My girlfriend is an inch taller than me, she was the only blonde in the classroom and all the guys were trying to get with her. I don’t usually have to mention that part, but people make the knee jerk assumption you’re some self deprecating virgin if you say short guys have it harder.
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:13 PM
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The guy said it was a struggle and you’re saying it’s not? Are you contradicting his experience with your opinion?
/r/seduction04/02/20 02:06 PM
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Did you backwards engineer my self esteem from the statement I just made? Stating that fact and having low self esteem don’t go hand in hand. In fact, it’s owning it. But even if I did have low self esteem, I’d rather have that than be confident and ignorant/delusional.
/r/seduction04/02/20 01:44 PM
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I’m currently in a successful relationship. Not looking. Regardless of whether it’s toxic or not, or who’s delivering the message, it won’t change the how true it is. Short people have it harder. That’s a fact.
/r/seduction04/02/20 01:35 PM
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If she’s looking down at you, it won’t matter how muscular you are. It’s still going to be an uphill climb.
/r/seduction04/02/20 09:48 AM
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RIP short dudes
/r/seduction04/02/20 09:05 AM
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So basically, if you want to get a girlfriend as an ugly guy, don’t be ugly.
/r/seduction27/01/20 04:47 AM
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The fact that some people who were born genetically gifted don’t even have to go to forums like these because they get results without having to try. If they did however, it would only make them that much more effective.
/r/seduction26/01/20 10:23 PM
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He didn't know any better. Maybe you can show some sympathy instead of kicking a dead horse.
/r/seduction26/01/20 05:43 AM
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Knowing everyone and being a leader helps, I’m not disputing that, but we’re talking about the REASON he gets results. Leadership and knowing everyone isn’t the reason. The reason is because he differentiated himself by being a down to earth guy who isn’t as predictable and easy to get like the other horn bags in the party. In this scenario, the dude can be the leader of the room and also be the most social and outgoing guy, but if he behaved like every other horny guy in the party, he wouldn’t …
/r/seduction15/01/20 11:56 PM
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Sorry I don't talk to 2nd tier families like greyjoys
/r/seduction15/01/20 04:05 AM
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I don't think it's about value or being the leader or anything like that, it's simply being a good guy and a normal dude. The attraction isn't from value or leadership. It's from being different. The girl recognizes you have more depth than other guys that they can show a little boob towards and turn them to putty.
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:19 AM
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I beg to differ. Your intention could be to get in their pants, but because you treat them differently from the 99 other guys, they become attracted to you.
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:12 AM
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so if the two finger touch doesn't work, do i downgrade to the one finger poke?
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:07 AM
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kinda like politicians, pretend like you fixed a problem that wasn't there in the first place (or that you caused)
/r/seduction15/01/20 03:06 AM
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girls are actually amazing at this! Learn from girls and how they initiate physical contact! I remember one time I was walking with a girl and she did this adorable shoulder bump. For the most part, most physical contact will occur in tandem with emotional spikes. They should come from an emotional place since this will give you both the motivation and the rationale for the touch. Additionally, you shouldn't have to think about it! It should feel organic and should come naturally since the major…
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:59 AM
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You're right about women caring about looks and money. They're just as vain as guys are and looks are important to them too, make no mistake about it. However, what is what the whole "women are deceptive" part? Women might like talking to you even though you're "repulsive" because they might like you for reasons that aren't sexual. Maybe it's because they're nice people who can carry a conversation? I hope you aren't projecting yourself by saying you wouldn't continue carrying a conversation wit…
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:52 AM
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damn once a week? I usually just text twice in one week and dip if i don't get a response
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:42 AM
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Fun fact. Ash ketchum got pikachu because he was late too late to get the other pokemon :)
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:39 AM
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This is the same kind of game I run! I think the attraction stems from you being unaffected by her (unlike all the other guys). At the very least, it will make you different and interesting since you're not like the other guys.
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:34 AM
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I mean... what you described is the experience of a typically attractive person. Where would you put yourself looks wise? cuz it DOES make a difference.
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:29 AM
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Keep in mind it might not be the escalation. In fact, women will go as far as initiate escalation if they find you attractive enough (trust me, they'll make it really easy for you). Can you think of any other reasons?
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:24 AM
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Watching porn doesn't kill your sex drive. especially to the extent of OP's boyfriend. People in healthy relationships watch porn all the time, whether their SO knows anything about is a different story.
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:10 AM
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you're kidding. If anything, she should stick it out with the guy because 1) he's depressed and losing someone close to him could exacerbate his condition, and 2) he's staying with the girl even though he lost sexual interest, making him one of the better dudes. A lot of guys find a new gf's after they lose sexual interest
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:08 AM
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okay doc
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:06 AM
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You shouldn't give up after the first "ghost" though. It doesn't hurt to send another text. If she doesn't reply to that, then yeah cut the line
/r/seduction15/01/20 02:02 AM
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but that advice was exactly what OP needed to hear (but yeah it was vague). What she pretty much said was "don't put women on a pedestal" since the dude that froze up obviously had the woman on the pedestal, and putting women on a pedestal is essentially forgetting that they're human too. In fact, Julien preaches for guys to remember that she shits and has bad breath in the morning too. The woman just said it differently.
/r/seduction15/01/20 12:42 AM
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If a woman says "make her qualify herself to you", is that bad advice? The quality of advice is indifferent to the person relaying it.
/r/seduction15/01/20 12:32 AM
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Julian Blanc was criticized for being derogatory and rapey. The media wouldn't have cared if he wasn't so extreme, which he was.
/r/seduction15/01/20 12:23 AM
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Yes but that can be remedied with time, practice and experience. I can assure you your experience would’ve been different had you been a 36 year old balding Indian man with a little pudge. Not to bring race into this, but it’s most definitely a factor to most people, and anyone saying otherwise is in denial.
/r/seduction12/01/20 09:45 PM
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Just curious, where would you say you are in terms of looks? (putting biases aside)
/r/seduction12/01/20 08:57 PM
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Ohhhh ok. It sounded like a "throw caution to the wind" deal which is placing way too much faith in humanity
/r/seduction11/01/20 06:02 PM
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But the amount of danger you're putting yourself in, is it worth it for the benefits of going out alone? I admire the confidence but for safety reasons, at least go with a friend and agree to do your own thing.
/r/seduction11/01/20 04:31 PM
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Being cynical can make the situation worse, especially if the person’s self consciousness stems from social anxiety.
/r/seduction11/01/20 06:37 AM
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What works for me is changing my values. The reason why this works is because your values dictate your goals and desires, those goals and desires dictate where your energy and attention is spent. Insecurity and self consciousness usually comes with (or are byproducts of) its own set of values. Examples are: wanting people to like you (so you supplicate often), avoiding pain and criticism, etc. Add to this the value of women to you (which can be ridiculously high depending on your situation) and …
/r/seduction11/01/20 06:34 AM
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The whole "girls poop, girls have snot” doesn’t really do it for some people because there are different reasons people put women on a pedestal. A guy who has been a virgin his whole life but has extremely attractive women friends and family already know women are just like everyone else in that they have insecurities and stuff, yet they’ll place them on a pedestal regardless. You’ll have to find out WHY you’re placing women on a pedestal first.
/r/seduction08/01/20 04:29 PM
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Why is he a fool tho?
/r/seduction08/01/20 11:10 AM
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Sorry for the late reply but just so you know, this is the one of the best and most informative responses I've received. Also it's really refreshing to hear someone apologize in this sub (no worries, i TOTALLY get it xD) and it's probably the first time I read the words "sorry" typed out in this sub since people here are probably more scared of using that word than getting an STD. Also if you don't mind me asking, why do you take the time out of your day to help these dudes out? You do realize t…
/r/seduction05/01/20 04:18 PM
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This is really helpful since it explains the underlying psychology involved. However, I was hoping for more actionable stuff. Like if you were trying to initiate the physical escalation process, what would it look like in terms of what you’re doing physically? If I were to pull a girl from a club, do I just jump to make out with her? Or do I hold her hand? Lean in and whisper something so it feels intimate?
/r/seduction01/01/20 02:59 AM
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I’m not fighting you, I’m just looking to understand since my experience has been different from yours. So basically girls who just want to fuck go for looks while girls who want a relationship look at personality? I mean that would make sense considering sex is more prevalent and accepted in today’s culture than it has ever been. People today look for sex and sexual compatibility first and if a relationship comes out of it, it’s a plus. That’s the same from my experience, people look for attrac…
/r/seduction01/01/20 02:47 AM
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They’re both great guys and really fun to hang out with. The funnier friend just has a far better sense of humor, has a “stronger” personality, and definitely leads the group. Think Tom cruise minus the looks and psychopathy/narcissism. Also, if you were to find a guy really attractive, you wouldn’t date him just because of incompatible personalities? I get how that works, but from my experience, girls also tend to give the attractive guy MANY more chances and some even make excuses and reasons …
/r/seduction31/12/19 06:08 AM
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I know what my funny friend is doing right... it’s not that hard to notice pushing and pulling and spiking emotions. He knows how to attract interest using social proof. He uses body language in a way that makes women feel they’re slowly winning him over and he has a stronger frame because his sense of humor dictates the pace of conversations. Of course all of this is subtle but people don’t need “game” to see it. Despite all that, the results of my attractive friend are more consistent, of high…
/r/seduction31/12/19 05:26 AM
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Maybe for unattractive dudes. My attractive friend’s numbers barely ghost or flake on him. When I say “numbers” I meant HIS numbers. And yes I do know this cuz he would show me how the texts he had with the girl “from the other day”
/r/seduction31/12/19 04:32 AM
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And you can tailor how much you’re willing to invest in game and learning game depending on how big of a difference being good looking makes (hence why I asked the question) because if you’re not a good looking guy and good looks make a big difference, then learning game isn’t going to affect your results any differently than playing the numbers game.
/r/seduction30/12/19 02:25 PM
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It’s a good point because I didn’t consider the women who eye fucked my attractive friend still would never choose to be with him because they are LOYAL to their SO. I completely overlooked the variable that people can be loyal too and for a moment, I simply saw people as shallow and willing to upgrade to the next available eye candy they come across.
/r/seduction30/12/19 02:21 PM
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So with your redhead singer, do you think she would’ve stayed if you had been confident? Did you consider that maybe your personality isn’t as big a variable in the decision she made and that’s he would’ve made that decision regardless?
/r/seduction30/12/19 02:01 PM
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I’ve literally observed my friends with amazing game and amazing personalities (one of whom is a loaded anaesthesiologist and an overall great guy) who are unable to get results with the volume and consistency my attractive friend can get. I don’t understand why looks don’t matter because I witness the EXACT OPPOSITE happening all the time. Looks don’t just make a difference, they make a MASSIVE difference. It’s not about mentality, it’s about reality. I’m talking about hard evidence and objecti…
/r/seduction30/12/19 01:40 PM
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Another man’s success does impact yours if that other consistently successful man is your friend and women want him, not you :/ Basically in the club, it feels like the other girl is humoring you while their friend talks to your attractive friend. In the meantime, while you guys are vibing, you can tell either she’s not all there or that she’s still throwing glances at your attractive friend. Honestly, this is all just motivation for me to focus on other things besides game. Like you said, it’s …
/r/seduction30/12/19 01:24 PM
0

Why shouldn’t they be allowed?
/r/seduction30/12/19 01:05 PM
2

It would be dumb to try and learn game without knowing what you’re working with.
/r/seduction30/12/19 01:05 PM
1

This makes so much more sense than “looks don’t matter”. So much so that I’m surprised how that mentality even made it to the point where people shut down statements like those.
/r/seduction30/12/19 02:30 AM
1

But what people don’t mention enough in this sub and even to the point of vehemently denying is the fact that looks play such a big factor that it decides whether you have the opportunity to express the many other traits women find attractive in men. It can also either let you get away with missing a lot of those unattractive things, or it can prevent you from needing those things altogether, as is the case with my friend
/r/seduction30/12/19 02:07 AM
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Well the two options you have for me is “keep fishing even though it’s a hard time, or stop fishing and starve”. What I’m asking is “is it worth fishing when fishing is hard? Or is it better to stop fishing and not catch any fish but meanwhile, you’re improving your fishing rod and reading up on how to be a better fisherman or maybe doing something else you might be more passionate about” Maybe what I have to do to succeed is to quit trying for women because looks are too significant a factor an…
/r/seduction30/12/19 01:50 AM
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You mention the reality that less attractive guys get the supermodel, but what about the more common reality where attractive people like my friend only has to not mess things up to get laid, while my colleague who makes half a mil as an anaesthesiologist, is confident, humble, a great leader, socially adept, has amazing status and saves life for a living BUT short and not the most attractive, is struggling with girls. You mention that we are entering an era of psychological and intellectual pro…
/r/seduction30/12/19 01:40 AM
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He’s getting laid by all kinds of girls, trashy, smart, models, etc. When he opens, he has instant social proof if the girl is with other girls. His attractiveness buys him an instant phone number from girls who are available (trust me I’ve seen it. He doesn’t have to do much). A phone number is WAY more than 30 seconds and to some guys, it takes them PERFECT game just to get that. Him being nice is seen as a HUGE asset and girls literally giggle and shit when they talk to him. He can fake not h…
/r/seduction30/12/19 01:19 AM
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There isn’t much to learn. He’s attractive. Talk, has nice hair, has nice style, muscular, good face, etc. Signs of attraction? Girls make it so obvious that any posts about IOIs can be summed up to “if you have to ask, she’s probably not attracted”. They take LONG glances at him, they “put on a show” if they have other girl friends and get twice as loud, they fix their hair and throw occasional glances. It’s really not subtle at all. And yeah, if you want a particular girl but you know she’ll b…
/r/seduction30/12/19 12:47 AM
2

Anyway to bring that down to like... 0%?
/r/seduction29/12/19 06:53 PM
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I meant the unattractiveness of the guy, not the girl. Like at what point of ugliness would make it so time consuming for a guy to get with one attractive girl that he would be better of spending that time elsewhere, like maybe on himself? For example. If I was really attractive and I’m guaranteed to go home with a girl any given night, I would be going out EVERY night. BUT, since I’m not attractive, would it be better for me to stay home and develop my business instead? Or learn other skills? O…
/r/seduction29/12/19 06:43 PM
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Good point...
/r/seduction29/12/19 06:27 PM
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Not being good looking is an excuse to not go out because all that time, money, and effort you’re spending could go down the drain the second a more attractive dude comes by. And this applies both to one night at a club, and to a 5 year relationship. In other words, if looks have the significant impact that they do, at what “unattractiveness” and levels of investment is it not worth for any guy to pursue women considering that time could be spent on something with more return on investment?
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:38 PM
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Your friends have GFs because because coming to the conclusion attractiveness matters doesn’t mean unattractive people can’t have GFs. Additionally, an ugly person having an attractive GF doesn’t dispute that looks matter.
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:25 PM
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I’m not sure this is the right mentality. Not trying isn’t necessarily a bad thing, especially if you’re investing that time in yourself to make things easier for you down the road. That’s like telling a boxer “if you don’t punch, you’ll never land a hit” ignoring the fact that there are 12 rounds in a match.
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:20 PM
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Yeah good question. That’s the point I’m in right now. I’m focusing on myself and can at least get some return on my investment by doing that. Spending it trying get women when you’re fighting a really steep uphill battle doesn’t seem like a smart move, especially considering all that time you spend with/on them could just go down the drain the second some really attractive dude says the right things at the right time. Yeah it’s definitely unfair that average guys are the second option and will …
/r/seduction29/12/19 05:12 PM
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Well I’m convinced they’re either deluded or trying to make money off me.
/r/seduction29/12/19 04:59 PM
1

I agree with attractiveness being relative to the guy around you, but wouldn’t a head turning type of attractive be considered universally attractive? The guy I mentioned above literally turns ALL heads and gets second glances even from REALLY attractive women. So should I not hang around this guy?
/r/seduction29/12/19 04:35 PM
1

Can you expand on part V? Not a lot of material on how to do that
/r/seduction29/12/19 02:23 PM
2

Not if you’re attractive. I have a friend and everywhere he goes girls will either follow them with their eyes or throw multiple glances at him. Not to seek his attention or anything, but just to look at him. If he were to ask any of these girls out, the would be putty in his hands.
/r/seduction20/12/19 12:44 PM
2

care to elaborate? you answered the question but you get a C- for this answer.
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:38 PM
2

That's a weird line since all successful people have overcome some kind of self doubt, but not all people who overcome self doubt become successful. That can be applied to pickup too. All men who have girlfriends have talked to women, but not all men who have talked to women can get girlfriends. I guess my point is self-doubt isn't the one thing that holds all of us back when it comes to seduction. For example, if a girl straight up tells you "no", there's no room for any kind of doubt there, se…
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:35 PM
1

Not saying you're ugly or anything, but unless you're directly competing with someone more attractive than you for the same girl, looks "don't matter".
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:25 PM
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Some people just don't have it in the looks department and that's fine. A guy who can turn heads of women but doesn't do anything about is less effective than a guy who can talk to 5 women and get laid from one. How much action are you actually taking? If you can't win the game in the looks department, just don't lose in that department and win elsewhere down the road.
/r/seduction18/12/19 06:24 PM
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Yeah Tyler’s infields are good. What I can’t tell is if the women are enjoying it or tolerating it. Honestly if a random dude came up and hugged me, I’d humor him and be super giggly too, but it could be out of nervousness.
/r/seduction17/11/19 09:52 PM
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I've been checked out by girls for being with a lot of girls. I know social proof works. Confidence, not so much. I know being insecure is a turn off, but I have no proof that confidence is a turn on other than everyone saying it is.
/r/seduction17/11/19 11:49 AM
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What's with "mansplained?" isn't the issue here because he assumed your thinking? If he was a woman (and we don't know that), would it be anymore appropriate? You'd have a stronger case if you didn't make it about gender, unless it is.
/r/seduction14/11/19 09:56 AM
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That analogy doesn't work because the deer doesn't want to be hunted and will tell you wrong information with the intent to mislead you. Women WANT you to succeed and any wrong information they tell you isn't designed so they can see you fail.
/r/seduction14/11/19 09:21 AM
0

How will jumping out of a car fix anything?
/r/PussyPassDenied06/11/19 08:07 AM
1

I’m going to guess he was somewhat taller than you, in good or ok shape, and not ugly? I think those are variables that people don’t give enough credit. In other words, if he was a 35 year weaboo that did the exact same thing, the outcome would be different
/r/seduction26/10/19 03:54 PM
1

It also helps to deliver the compliment because you mean it and not just for the purpose of getting her to like you more
/r/seduction23/10/19 04:47 PM
4

How do we know this isn’t satire?
/r/PussyPassDenied05/10/19 12:41 AM
2

This is pretty funny tho lol.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/07/19 08:10 AM
2

But keep in mind, that approach (especially the first guy’s) is the type that can get drinks thrown at the guy, or labeled as sexual harassment.
/r/seduction28/06/19 07:40 PM
1

I’m pretty sure you could get typhoid or hepatitis from rimming. No thanks. I prefer poop in the toilet, not my mouth
/r/seduction16/06/19 09:20 AM
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Yeah i hate how a lot of stuff in this sub comes off like fluffy guru enlightened shit It's like they're incapable of recognizing how variable people are
/r/seduction04/06/19 06:39 PM
1

People probably shared this with you for free and you're trying to make a buck out of it? Not cool... Pirating is one thing, but selling it is a new low, even for someone who pirates. It's also how you get caught and get a whole community in trouble.
/r/seduction04/06/19 01:44 AM
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I mentioned this exact idea in one of my other replies on this thread. This idea works best with safe statements where she judges you by your delivery, not the content of your speech. The issue is if you say something too pretentious or sexually aggressive, you could be smooth in your delivery but will still cause her to reject you because she can't just overlook the content and what it implied. So yeah it does matter to some extent and it's totally worth focusing on.
/r/seduction04/06/19 01:35 AM
1

Thats the point, people are blatantly over thinking and it shows through these super fruity responses
/r/seduction03/06/19 05:25 PM
2

But I'm pretty sure boring is better than being a thirsty tryhard For some reason anything implying sex overtly as the opener can come off socially uncalibrated and/or creepy. Being sexual isn't in the words as much as it is in the vibe. He can say "how's it going" and have it be super sexual.
/r/seduction03/06/19 09:11 AM
3

Seems a little corny Why not just tell her "I'll ask what I want to ask" or just laugh it off
/r/seduction03/06/19 09:07 AM
3

Pickup isn't necessary Just a shred of social aptitude will do
/r/seduction31/05/19 08:21 AM
3

Well Idk what that last guy did wrong, seemed to me like he was being normal and trying to have a fun conversation with women and you kinda just shit on him telling him he doesn’t get laid.
/r/seduction25/05/19 11:09 AM
1

There are many ways to get laid and there are many ways to show confidence but. Why? What did you have in mind? And how would you go about it?
/r/seduction25/05/19 08:16 AM
1

Yes feeling disappointment is a choice and yeah I’ve thought about this rationally. If you know people can be better but instead they choose (not necessarily consciously) NOT to be better while also enforcing a status quo that puts women as the main motivator for a man, wouldn’t you be disappointed to? And I am taking control. Control isn’t just choosing to be happy all the time. In this case, choosing to be disappointed is better than accepting mediocrity. In this case, mediocre values.
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:23 AM
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I disagree with the first point. Feeling disappointment isn’t a choice, nor can you invalidate a person’s disappointment just because some people have the ability or have taken the time to practice choosing how they feel. Yeah It’s okay to want women. What I consider kinda weak is making a change using “getting more women” as your sole or central motivator. I know people can’t help it and that it’s natural, but to me, it’s similar to saying you wanna travel because you wanna have awesome selfies…
/r/seduction24/05/19 10:00 PM
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from people who are attractive and interesting. Would you say the same if the eye contact wasn't from a cute blonde with blue eyes? ​ What you'll end up with is the conclusion and the belief that eye contact is strong and magical, when in reality, it's that eye contact is strong and magical when it's coming from someone attractive. It's important to distinguish that.
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:59 PM
2

It's not necessarily traits either. A guy with three attractive women having laughing and having fun around him and throwing him glances is instantly attractive and there is nothing to tell you that indicates the traits he has other than the women's reaction around him. And those aren't traits.
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:56 PM
1

It's so strange that reading this I could tell you're a physically attractive guy. You didn't have to put that last part in there for me to guess you were attractive. The success stories of those who are less physically attractive tend to be different somehow, I can't put my finger on it. ​ Usually the stories from less attractive guys involve them making the first approach, them asking for the number, and less overt indicators of interest from a woman.
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:50 PM
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Sounds to me like the people this advice applies to are already in the upper percentages in terms of probably perceived social value and/or physical attractiveness because a lot of guys here struggle with getting girls to check them out, much less actually have girls be excited to hang out with them. In other words, for guys starting out who DON'T get these ioi's, cold approach is the only way to force the ball on her court. Otherwise, what you'd end up with is a guy insecurely scanning the room…
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:45 PM
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Something about this sub is reflected in that statement “be butt hurt or improve”. We tend to draw these cut and dry dichotomies and also apply them to people and situations without acknowledging the abundance in our options as to how to react. It also doesn’t put into account those who try to do a lot of improving but don’t get any results so they have every valid reason to be “butt hurt” yet are shamed for it, or assumed that a person who is butt hurts can’t be improving at the same time Lastl…
/r/seduction24/05/19 06:43 PM
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These are the types of guys that get girls. Message to all loser virgin nice guys. Downvote me bitches <3
/r/PussyPassDenied18/05/19 12:38 AM
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They didn’t need to flex on us like that
/r/PussyPassDenied18/05/19 12:36 AM
29

Nah man... You gotta go up to women and piss on their shoes. Alpha males mark their territory and you'll never be put in the friendzone like a nice guy.
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:43 PM
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She likes confident tall rich guys with big dicks. I don't think she'll 100% ignore that guy lol
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:38 PM
69

Yeah but if you don't read the situation right, you could get in real trouble.
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:37 PM
7

But don't let this stop you for actually fighting for someone if you think they're in the right I'm guessing this would make you a black knight? Or white peasant?
/r/seduction16/05/19 09:36 PM
1

Yeah I'll do this. Better to be turned down for being real than accepted as a fake.
/r/seduction11/05/19 01:43 AM
1

This is awesome! Thanks for this! Something I’d like to add are people like Ted bundy who were described as charismatic and charming. He wasn’t exactly the best looking guy and from the interviews, he wasn’t exactly funny either. I wonder what it was about him that made people think of him the way they did.
/r/seduction10/05/19 06:10 PM
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Completely ignoring the fact that the type of woman you’re with is a pretty significant variable here...
/r/seduction09/05/19 11:11 PM
1

I won't. But what if she asks what I do for fun or if I've traveled anywhere or what was the coolest thing you've done recently. I mean, either im confident that I don't do anything, or I deflect like I should be ashamed of it.
/r/seduction09/05/19 06:15 PM
1

This isn't pity, I just want to know if it can work out and how I can get it to work out if it's possible because I don't want to waste my time if it won't. Maybe other guys cry themselves to sleep for not having a social life. I'm completely fine with it, but that's not the point. And yes she is better than me in the sense that she has more social connections and experience. That's not frame, that's just reality. What I'm asking is in the circumstance that she is better than me, is there any wa…
/r/seduction09/05/19 05:59 PM
1

So what should I do in this coffee date? Should I just give up now?
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:18 PM
1

Ok. How did you ask those girls you like? What went through your head (like what were you feeling)? Also did those girls know you exist at all? Had they shown any sign of interest? Also did you consider that maybe they were actually in relationships?
/r/seduction09/05/19 04:12 AM
1

How do they hit on you?
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:41 AM
2

Are you physically unattractive and/or short? Also is your vibe off? You seem like a nice guy, maybe you can lower your standards for the time being. I'm gonna get down voted because I mentioned looks. Trust me, it matters unfortunately
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:41 AM
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Be open to talk about sexual topics. Strong eye contact, confidence, and being able to physically escalate.
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:36 AM
1

Women rarely hit on men
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:35 AM
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Dont forget to bring a wooden club. That way you can bash her over the head with it and drag her unconscious body back to your cave while pounding your chest along the way so other males in the vicinity know you're the alpha.
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:34 AM
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Not random. If you look like a chad, you're gonna attract a Stacey and everything below. If you look an ogre, you could do everything you mentioned above and the only things you'll get is "I have a boyfriend" and/or restrain orders.
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:32 AM
2

It's usually over as soon as she starts ghosting you. Easiest way to "get her back" without supplicating is by having her see you being admired by other women, being around other women, having a life that other make other wen want you, becoming a guy (physically, financially, etc) that other women want. And you can't tell her. She will somehow need to notice this. Then go up and talk to her and all of a sudden she's smiling and friendly again.
/r/seduction09/05/19 03:24 AM
1

Dude i dare you to post "does height matter?" on this subreddit and you will get down voted to oblivion because "it's so obvious..." or "girls don't know what they want" or "confidence and game bro"
/r/seduction04/05/19 10:49 PM
2

Thanks for this! But what if the guy has no friends, weak hobbies, and kinda broke, yet doesn’t piggyback on the girl? I can see how attraction wouldn’t flow if the guy has no life and leeches of the girl, but what if the guy doesn’t leech of the girl, gives her space, but still doesn’t have a life to invite her in?
/r/seduction04/05/19 03:50 PM
1

I’m asking because it’s reasonable to assume
/r/seduction04/05/19 07:33 AM
1

One night stands basically? So try to get them in bed before they find out you don’t have a life?
/r/seduction04/05/19 05:03 AM
2

So if you don't have 6, there's no point in even trying to get women attracted?
/r/seduction04/05/19 04:26 AM
1

Wow... Really well put. So height doesn't matter in the sense that there are always women out there where it won't make a difference. I was under the impression that when to talking to a given woman, there's a way to nullify the negative effects of height to her attraction to you, therefore height doesn't matter because you can still get any given girl. This begs the question, can a really good face make up for height vs a tall guy when it comes to attracting women in a set? And is there anythin…
/r/seduction01/05/19 12:51 AM
1

But even then, random dudes introduce themselves into your sets. Wdyd?
/r/seduction30/04/19 08:25 PM
1

It's just tough because people call this sub out for making a big deal about height and that it has no impact on attraction, Yet you have situations like these that are more likely to happen than a girl getting with a shorter guy than you that REALLY illustrates how huge a variable height is. So are people in this sub just willfully ignorant of that fact? Are they just blissfully optimistic? Where is it coming from when they say "height doesn't matter" when in this situation it clearly does?
/r/seduction30/04/19 07:17 PM
2

Or 100% glad half full. Or half empty? Idk...
/r/seduction28/04/19 08:33 PM
2

You're absolutely right! I am obsessed! However I'm aware people are too different, but they are also similar in many ways and being that attraction IS a process, it'd be cool if someone could create a model and identify the variables that would account for the majority of ppl. And yes you're also right that at some point, stressing out and trying to optimize all the variables is counterproductive, and that doing your best and being yourself is sometimes the most you can do, but that also comes …
/r/seduction25/04/19 09:42 PM
1

So how does confidence affect you? (Assuming you're a woman into guys). Is it like a switch that's turned on and you're like "omg lol" or is it more like a points system where a guy gains "attraction points" and the more he piles up the more you warm up to him and see him in a different light?
/r/seduction25/04/19 06:34 PM
3

So is this saying you have to like yourself for someone to like you? Or that liking yourself is attractive? I feel like if Henry Cavill said he didn't like himself, women would still like him. And there are a bunch of guys I know who like themselves but women don't find them attractive, and if they do its not for that reason
/r/seduction25/04/19 06:29 PM
1

For the last part of your response, it's like sitting down to draw a map. You're not getting any closer to your destination but at least you'll know how to get there
/r/seduction25/04/19 06:21 PM
1

But are they attractive? Especially if you have the option of choosing someone who isn't shy? (Considering many women tend to have many options)
/r/seduction25/04/19 05:48 PM
4

I personally like shy women who are comfortable with their shyness. Idk if this applies to men because persistent shyness is a turn off
/r/seduction25/04/19 05:00 AM
5

But what about short or ugly guys with a lot of confidence? I feel like they're phenotype speaks more about their genetic fitness than their personality amirite?
/r/seduction25/04/19 03:29 AM
1

So more like conviction/integrity?
/r/seduction24/04/19 08:16 PM
4

This makes sense too, but how does certainty generate attraction? I can be certain the sun will rise tomorrow, but expressing that won't make women any more attracted to me, so maybe it's something else?
/r/seduction24/04/19 07:57 PM
9

Thank you for the thorough reply! It would make sense that this idea of competence and capability is what is actually attractive to women. Basically if you open a woman with the idea that you're capable of getting her, you'd be more "confident". So confidence is just an indicator of capability and competence. But why is capability important? Is it important because it implies the guy has a social life? Or maybe he had a lot of resources or potential to acquire resources? If so, does having a lot…
/r/seduction24/04/19 07:55 PM
1

What if they say yes but they weren't as enthusiastic as they were the first time? Personally I would WANT to go, but I would also be spending time with someone I'm into who isn't as into me, so what should the avg guy do here?
/r/seduction23/04/19 10:30 PM
1

But where do you draw the line to give up vs ask her out again? Do you take the initiative of asking her out? Do you wait for her to invest more and chase? Do you move on and retain your self respect?
/r/seduction23/04/19 10:28 PM
2

How do I get a woman comfortable with talking about sex? I feel like anything regarding the topic and women will give you that weird sideways "wtf" look.
/r/seduction17/04/19 09:52 AM
2

I'll try this. Thanks! Hard part is doing it from a position that isn't self loathing or whatever
/r/seduction17/04/19 07:26 AM
1

If I have to be a wet flannel to never feel the need to get laid ever again, i'll be the wettest flannel out there.
/r/seduction17/04/19 07:23 AM
1

No, is that a symptom of autism?
/r/seduction17/04/19 06:53 AM
1

What changed? Also are you tall and/or handsome? Or maybe rich? And how do you meet these mid 20 ppl?
/r/seduction17/04/19 06:50 AM
3

Kind of. Basically if there was a way I could be asexual, a lot of problems like these wouldn't be problems at all. Things that would stress people out or things that people would spend a lot of time, energy and money thinking about, I wouldn't have to. I really dont want to have to cut my balls off (not that I would) if there's another way to put this sex bs at the bottom of the list of things I give a fuck about.
/r/seduction16/04/19 11:25 PM
2

Wow this is amazing, thanks for taking the time to write all this. To respond to your first question, I feel like a coping mechanism is necessary because anything relating the pursuit of women is a band-aid solution. Even if it's something I get really good at, the fact is that it's still something I "need". For example, if you owned a car that ran on gas and you reached a point of your life where you can buy as much gas as you want, the fact is, you are still dependent on gas. By the same logic…
/r/seduction16/04/19 11:05 PM
1

I'm considering castration lol
/r/seduction16/04/19 10:38 PM
3

Thanks for this, this is solid advice but idk if this would fix the problem. Here is the issue. Imagine you were starving, and you were looking at a person and they are able to get a full course meal with a simple ring of a bell. First off, wouldn't that make you wonder "how does one get to that point?" and "I wish I was that person". Second, If I said to myself "at least I wasn't as hungry as I was yesterday", it doesn't really make solve anything. ​ I guess what I'm asking to do is what I coul…
/r/seduction16/04/19 10:38 PM
2

Not their happiness. I don't necessarily care and may even be excited for them if they accomplished or won something. It's specifically about hooking up and the idea of them having sex and making it seem so easy that's triggering. It's like a slap to the face to everyone else who struggles. Not that they mean to slap anyone in the face, but just cuz it's something they don't intend doesn't mean that the subjective interpretation isn't having its negative effects. ​ And yeah that's my problem not…
/r/seduction16/04/19 10:30 PM
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Omg yeah!!! That idea of wanting to know how the other person did it or how it all went down, what the guy did or had going for him, all those things hit me at the same time when a guy or a girl mentions they hooked up. That footage too, lol. Definitely hits home. The difference is that I'm totally alien to the idea and the whole thing is a mystery to me, including hookups outside of social circles. I've been trying to cope by finding out how it happens, or hearing the experiences of other peopl…
/r/seduction16/04/19 10:22 PM
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I'm glad you made this point because you're right. However, it might be indicative of another problem about myself that I could use it as a jumping off point to maybe figure myself out better. Hopefully it offers solution, but probably more questions along the lines of whether my values are in the right place and how to change something that's that deeply ingrained.
/r/seduction16/04/19 09:47 PM
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Yep looks definitely matter. If you’re not good looking, good luck cuz you’ll need it.
/r/seduction16/04/19 02:54 AM
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Sex tourism wouldn’t work in America cuz prostitution is illegal
/r/seduction14/04/19 08:50 PM
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How would it be different the goal was sex?
/r/seduction14/04/19 05:13 PM
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It must to some extent. I'm wondering to what extent that is and whether face and body can make up for it
/r/seduction12/04/19 05:58 PM
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This is reassuring, thanks man! Yeah it's just a read a post about a guy who approached 15 girls and got 8 numbers and the top two comments were "are you tall?"
/r/seduction11/04/19 09:32 PM
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Nice man! Great job! Don't think to much about the flood of advice you'll be getting. These ppl mean well but before you think too hard about it, ask yourself. If she had said yes, would that person still be giving you advice? and would it still be relevant? Just because she said no doesn't mean you did anything wrong.
/r/seduction08/04/19 06:12 AM
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Girls do text first with guys they’re interested in. I know from experience. If she’s not initiating, especially when you haven’t texted her in a while, she’s not that interested.
/r/seduction01/04/19 01:40 PM
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Actually it goes both ways! (like you said). You know that whole deal when your SO is super mad at you and you try to get him/her to laugh, and when they finally crack you feel like you're off the hook because you made them laugh? That's the principle that makes humor attractive to someone. Basically when you make someone laugh, there's a moment where the two of you are on the same level together (no matter what their status is). In this moment, the other person becomes open to considering you a…
/r/seduction21/03/19 12:05 AM
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Yep exactly. For example, women say they like funny guys but I promise you, the funniest guys are the most attractive ones. In other words, when they say they're attracted to guys who can make them laugh, they're saying they're attracted to guys they find attractive. Maybe humor does develop attraction but it's more common that attraction can make something funny that wouldn't be if it had been said by someone they weren't attracted to. This applies when they say they like nice guys.
/r/seduction20/03/19 06:39 PM
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Only if they like you
/r/seduction20/03/19 09:30 AM
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This is true of both genders assuming they like you to begin with. If they don't, they'll be indifferent.
/r/seduction20/03/19 09:29 AM
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You're still scared of talking to that girl BECAUSE you'll lose your job (so it still holds true) And you can own it and still not do anything about it. I can own that I'm the biggest pussy on the planet and it won't change a thing
/r/seduction08/03/19 07:44 PM
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Bro 6 girls??? I wouldn't have the balls to do that, that is BOLD. Instant respect from every girl x6. Not only that, you seperated yourself from all the other guys by making a move like thaf
/r/seduction26/02/19 04:12 AM
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Ok this is helpful. Yeah it's not something straightforward like height which is unanimously a turn off or turn on. Thanks
/r/seduction25/02/19 07:38 PM
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I was on a date this weekend. Somehow we got talking about each others body count. I don't wanna make it seem like I'm hiding something im insecure about it because I'm not. Hypothetically speaking, IF it happens somehow, how will it affect a girl when they find out you're a virgin.
/r/seduction25/02/19 05:46 AM
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Hey man... I learned this last week and since then I’ve been going on coffee dates left and right. Women will NOT approach you. YOU have to take the initiative. As incentive, being able to approach women usually shows so much confidence that they will AT LEAST be a little interested. At least from my experience. Idk, I think being bold turns them on or something, haha.
/r/seduction23/02/19 04:45 AM
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“Don’t talk about your lack of success” How badly do you have to avoid this? What if it comes up and you say for example that you’re a virgin? I don’t imagine that making a HUGE difference if as a guy you can own up and not be insecure about stuff like that.
/r/seduction23/02/19 04:34 AM
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You should ask your therapist why you should set yourself up for disappointment in the future when you can just be disappointed now and get it over with xD But actually though, props on you for taking initiative. I MIGHT do the same. We’ll see
/r/seduction20/02/19 11:39 PM
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Did the therapist say it was harder to make friends as you grow older? Or is this you saying this?
/r/seduction20/02/19 10:08 PM
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Doesn’t it make you feel bad and worthless that some other guy could talk to her and she would be nice to them and they’d eventually sleep together?
/r/seduction11/02/19 06:18 PM
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So how often does this actually happen to the average guy? Is it every other approach? Once in a blue moon? Ppl in pickup tend to only talk about and over exaggerate the positives and I’m just trying brave myself for reality if this sort of thing happens often
/r/seduction11/02/19 06:15 PM
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This is happening in college too
/r/seduction02/02/19 10:16 AM
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Gayjing?
/r/seduction02/02/19 10:15 AM
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You’re basically saying “don’t worry about it” in a subreddit built on worrying about it.
/r/seduction02/02/19 10:14 AM
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But what is the elephant’s growth equivalent to? If it’s looks or money, then people have a reason to think they can’t breakaway because they probably can’t considering they’re still a small elephant
/r/seduction28/01/19 10:30 PM
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Like the average girl, not insanely attractive but attractive and outgoing but not too outgoing. Also they have their life together well enough and they’re nice with a close group of friends. But I get what you mean. It depends on the girl too and that can vary
/r/seduction26/01/19 03:49 AM
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I agree both probably don’t have a good chance, but given a random ordinary average girl, which of the two would have a better chance with said girl?
/r/seduction25/01/19 11:59 PM
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Maybe too much effort, Too busy with school, College student so they’re broke, Maybe invests in himself more than he does in other people, Too busy working, maybe tired of putting with ppl’s bs and emotional baggage, maybe he’s just a confident introvert? Idk could be a lot of things. Confidence doesn’t always mean social from my experience. Maybe capable of socializing, but too much effort to go out
/r/seduction25/01/19 11:19 PM
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thanks but the “why” behind their rejection isn’t as interesting to me as the “how”
/r/seduction04/03/18 08:23 PM
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i hedge my bets by not approaching at all actually
/r/seduction04/03/18 05:31 AM
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That sounds absolutely brutal. Do you live in the city?
/r/seduction03/03/18 07:40 PM
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thanks mate, it literally cant be found anywhere so im guessing its short
/r/seduction25/02/18 03:06 PM
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thanks man!
/r/seduction30/01/18 08:15 PM
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I have it and it's really good. How much is it for? I got it for free but i would say it's not worth more than $80 dollars, but that depends. A lot would argue it's worth its weight in gold. People say it's good for beginners mostly because it works on laying down the mindsets you should have. These mindsets reframe situations to your advantage so that you don't get intimidated and leave sets too early, while gaining confidence and feedback from positive outcomes. In a sense, you can say this pr…
/r/seduction24/11/17 01:51 PM
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Any way of telling the difference between shit test vs. banter?
/r/seduction06/11/17 01:53 PM
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Do you have experience physically escalating? Because that's the answer :) does she playfully nudge you in any way? Does she get close to your personal space? If so reciprocate and double down! Fun fact. If you cross her boundries (which is pretty inevitable) and you acknowledge it by backing off without recoiling like a little bitch, she will get more attracted to you. She will also let you know if there was nothing there to begin with. You can't lose!
/r/seduction06/11/17 07:53 AM
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This is good, but keep in mind that your brain will internalize affirmations a lot faster and integrate it into your "frame" sooner, in smaller chunks. Treat your mind like a dog who's behavior you're trying to change. In other words, keep your commands simple. Focus on one aspect of the natural frame and repeat that over and over, then stack another on top of it (ex: "i'm good enough" x50 every morning. The week after "i'm good enough and i'm fun" x50 every morning). This works the same for lea…
/r/seduction06/11/17 07:42 AM
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Sorry link isnt working
/r/seduction16/10/17 02:34 PM
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Thanks for the sound advice. Hopefully this will just become common sense with maturity
/r/seduction26/09/17 10:31 AM
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What if he doesn't stop pursuing her? Would this be a reason to confront the guy? If not, under what circumstances would you take action? And what type of action? Thanks for the reply btw, they don't teach these things in school and I dont know where else to look for answers
/r/seduction21/09/17 08:16 PM
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How would you confront the guy? Do you just go up to him and tell him its not cool to talk to your gf like that? And how would that prevent anything from developing between the guy and your gf? Just wondering because I've never had this experience but I want to be prepared when the time comes. It's kind of a nightmare scenario for me actually.
/r/seduction21/09/17 03:58 AM
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check.. check.. check...
/r/seduction03/11/16 05:33 AM
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niiiice. give this man a cookie :)
/r/seduction22/06/16 07:37 AM
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Also, it manifests itself biologically by having high testosterone and low cortisol. This gives you that overly chilled out and leaning back vibe like nothing can go wrong because you obviously won't die and anything else besides that is ok. It has been shown that having this biological makeup allows you to naturally emulate characteristics of leaders. "alpha males", guys with a lot of friends and/or with a woman, leaders, and people of high authority have been shown to have high testosterone an…
/r/seduction22/06/16 07:31 AM
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Because this is outer game stuff involving canned lines, you have to deliver it with the correct frame and the correct vibe. When zach says "your facial expression should be a smile like you're on to her just playing hard to get whilst she actually does want you" you actually have to know what zach's frame was when he said this to deliver his lines with success. Otherwise you'll come off as creepy, sleazy or pushy because you'd be incongruent. This is also where experience comes in and its why p…
/r/seduction18/05/15 05:53 AM
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Its the opposite imho. Tyler durden from the youtube link above, hit it spot on. It's more like learned helplesness, not doing anything to compensate for the obvious disadvantage and wallowing in self pity instead.
/r/seduction24/03/15 05:39 AM
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Thanks man! yeah, personally there is something about people who fake being the shit. It seems really incongruent and i cringe when i watch them strut with their chests out but to be honest, i have friends like that and it worked for them. Eventually, they got girlfriends and their fake walk gradually changed to the "poised, im in control, i dont need to walk fancy cuz i KNOW im the shit walk". Fake it till u make it i guess
/r/seduction24/03/15 05:30 AM
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Yes! That guy is the epitome of confidence. I like his canned line when someone calls him short "Doesn't matter, I'm big where it counts". If that's not confidence, idk what is. Thanks!
/r/seduction24/03/15 05:24 AM
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Thanks! yeah, a message like yours is most probably the reason seddit was made. especially for the self improvement part and inner game part
/r/seduction24/03/15 04:58 AM
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This articles nice. Bookmarked
/r/seduction24/03/15 02:30 AM
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This is literally on point. It's kinda what im going through and thanks to the community, im starting to think that height isn't game breaking at all
/r/seduction24/03/15 02:27 AM
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That's some tough love but it's pure gold! I've never looked into RSD but Tyler knows what he's talking about. I'll look more into his work too, thanks!
/r/seduction24/03/15 01:30 AM
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Application is important too, there's nothing like getting feedback (bad or good) on "the field". techniques and tactics r like papers, philosophies and theories are the folders and experience is like the file cabinet. you wont just be a jumbled mess of theories nd techniques because talking to ppl will get u feedback that will allow u to learn more about urself nd what works for u. u'll also start recognizing patterns and drawing correlations between the material you've learned thus far and not…
/r/seduction05/10/14 07:28 AM
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i highly suggest it. its kinda long but man... the guy has a way with words. Instead of telling u this nd that, what he does is he allows u to feel what its like to see the world the way he does. its a different level of teaching but he talks about how "men fall in love with their eyes nd women fall in love with their ears" nd he demonstrates it throughout the book. Even the story itself is abstract. A lot of deep symbolism if u read between the lines
/r/seduction27/08/14 03:23 AM
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I definitely agree with u, a LOT of positive psychology going on there. Zan makes great use of the self fulfilling prophecy and seeing the good in people. Its admirable if nothing else. way to point that out!
/r/seduction27/08/14 03:17 AM
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Yesss!!! This is awesome! so i guess it is possible, but what other areas of ur game can be improved? social status nd personality? plz elaborate
/r/seduction26/08/14 10:14 PM
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Awesome! thx for clearin that up. i was quoting mystery's nd david deangelo's work but from what i understand, ur saying to do whatever works. Being genuine and authentic is important to me as well. This is y im hoping zan's philosophy is the real deal cuz its the best fit for me. we were all newbies at one point nd im trying to get to where i won't "need" those guidelines nd these answers definitely help
/r/seduction26/08/14 09:53 PM
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i guess its in the name, thats probably how mystery nd style do it. lol
/r/seduction26/08/14 07:58 PM
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its not genuine tho. instead u should genuinely ask them how much sleep they got because they look tired. i do that if they dont put any effort into how they look. but they might actually be swamped with work nd stuff. in that case, tell them ur on the same boat only if its true. be genuine, ingenuinity signals manipulative intent.
/r/seduction26/08/14 07:51 PM
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