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It's another gotcha moment from them. We seem to get this same kind of question a lot here. Look at common manipulation tactics. Shame, blame, guilt trip, insult. Blame shifting is a part of that list. To make you focus more on you, rather than the point you were trying to make.
/r/MensRights31/07/26 03:17 AM
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Who said anything about using that as any form of evidence? There are thousands upon thousands of videos on TikTok of women openly doing that. There are thousands on YouTube. Who needs that unheard of case?
/r/MensRights30/07/26 12:23 PM
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You could literally Google women calling for all men to die and be killed off. You can Google women beating on men in public. Then look at all the comments, from women cheering the women on. You'd have to be extremely blind to not find it online.
/r/MensRights29/07/26 11:28 PM
58

I mean... they also support it publicly....
/r/MensRights28/07/26 10:19 PM
3

Well it would be great if society stopped hating men. That would be a wonderful start
/r/MensRights28/07/26 10:18 PM
13

Let's be real... as soon as they did, women would invade, and claim it was misogyny
/r/MensRights28/07/26 10:17 PM
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Same with - choosing the bear. Lasted until it became stale, and men got to where they made enough fun of it. - rewriting history, to demonize men. Still ongoing. But the more we point it out, the more they give up on saying those particular things (the right to vote being exclusively their victory...etc). - women are so much smarter. Was huge for a while, now it's dying down because men are figuring out ways to counter - women experience all the emotional labor - feminism is about equality - my…
/r/MensRights21/07/26 12:31 AM
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Of course it is. The point is not to be logical. It's to shut the other down. If you notice, they say it until men collectively come up with a response that makes it look dumb. Then, they change it to counter. Then men must come up with another. It's all a smokescreen to keep men thinking about a possible response, rather than collectively address the main issue.
/r/MensRights20/07/26 05:30 PM
7

It's not a skin color problem... it's that the justice system is extremely biased towards women.
/r/MensRights19/07/26 07:57 PM
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And go where? Lol divorce because they both can't stay exclusive. Then go date others that are expecting exclusivity from people that proved they can't provide that. Meanwhile, they are both semi ok with it as is I think they should just open up their marriage.
/r/MensRights19/07/26 12:48 PM
3

Gaslighting and shaming tactics eh....
/r/MensRights10/07/26 12:51 PM
23

It's extremely gynocentric. I would not classify it as matriarchal, or patriarchal. "Patriarchy is a social system where men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege, and control of property." Primary power: men Predominant political leadership: men Moral authority: both Social privilege: extremely favoring women Control of property: both Other factors: law enforcements, favoring women. Court bias, greatly favoring women. I guess we c…
/r/MensRights09/07/26 02:30 PM
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There are things to boycott Disney for (like all the really sus children missing, cruises, etc). But that's like saying women should boycott old spice for making a whole line of products just for men. If that's their consumer base, then that is who they are trying to sell to. So be it. If you like a movie they make, then fine. Enjoy it. If they make stuff you don't like, don't watch it. Pretty simple really.
/r/MensRights09/07/26 02:17 PM
15

I call it weaponized empathy. A mix between social polarization, confirmation bias, and being very impressionable. Same can be said about many men as well. But our current subject is women, so we shall stick with them for this argument. But I don't think that's all of them. Just probably most. The very thing that made them wonderful companions, and survival helpmates, is the very aspect that now makes them dangerous. They have been systematically indoctrinated from very early on. TV, movies, boo…
/r/MensRights08/07/26 04:14 AM
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If they overtly said it, then it would destroy their plans. Hence, why women covertly communicate.
/r/MensRights07/07/26 11:56 PM
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I'm starkly anti feminist. And I agree that we should be far more active. Silence only shows them they can keep moving forward. Despite how many privileges they already have, they'll keep going until a sizeable enough wall stops them. An object in motion stays in motion, or an object at rest stays at rest, unless acted upon by a positive net force. Sitting and whining about it is not a positive net force. Arguing with them is certainly one way, giving money to others that are currently fighting …
/r/MensRights01/07/26 09:56 PM
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They openly hate on men for anything men do. There are literally thousands of videos online of that very thing. The only thing society acts like, is acting like men don't matter.
/r/MensRights28/06/26 03:31 AM
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"which is ironic because we live in a day and age where society is constantly shouting to be yourself and open." Lol no. What rock you been under? That's only for women. Men are hated on for existing. Just honestly shows how privileged of a society you live in, and how bad men have it these days. Where women think men are actually welcome, while actually being shat on at every turn
/r/MensRights27/06/26 10:19 PM
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Lol you might get arrested from just saying this on social media.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 03:04 PM
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They are supposed to. They just don't. And they don't because men don't hold them accountable.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 06:40 PM
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And yet, notice how you didn't refute, by giving an example of a great woman leader... I implied exactly what I've seen. Rather, not seen.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 03:53 PM
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Well and let's be honest here... so what if men are in charge? That's what gets me. They vilify men, as you say. But, the more power women get over the decades, the worse off it gets for all. One of the best definitions of an intelligent decision, that I've heard, is that decision benefits all involved. Whereas, stupid harms all. In a patriarchy, all benefitted. Even when things were bad (if it wasn't, then men overthrew leaders, until they got a competent enough leader). Yet, the more the balan…
/r/MensRights22/06/26 04:58 AM
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Irrelevant. Now, I'm striving to change things to be more fair for men. I'm actively trying to improve things for men.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 11:03 PM
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There no moving the goal post. It's the same idea. Protecting might mean to change the system in place to make it safe and healthy. It's the same concept. Just circling around for different perspectives.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 11:02 PM
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True. So get up and actively do something about it. Hence, set and enforce healthy boundaries. I agree with you on that, and agree that we men need to stand up against the incredibly unbalanced ways things are at the moment. We were handed a shit start. Tough times. So, let's put our efforts into making things more balanced for us.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 07:54 PM
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I can tell by your shaming tactic (ad hominem, and common manipulation tactic), that you are beginning to see my point. And yet you still haven't connected the dots i already spelled out for you. Just because men should set and enforce healthy boundaries, doesn't mean men always do. This is why the saying exists, for the cycle. "Good times create weak men..." Good times create times where men don't feel the need to enforce healthy boundaries, so they let things change in unhealthy ways. This con…
/r/MensRights19/06/26 07:52 PM
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There's a balance for sure.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 05:27 PM
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Cool, so then you have no right to complain about what anyone decides for you.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 05:26 PM
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You still aren't getting it are you?... it's like talking to a parrot. By the way, I am a veteran, and was homeless at one point. Besides the point though really. They fought for their country. Which defeats your whole argument. They didn't do that so you could shit all over their service, because you want to virtue signal on some high horse. You're making strawman fallacy statements all over the place. I'm not saying society cares. I'm saying it's men's responsibly to enforce. Which sometimes m…
/r/MensRights19/06/26 03:51 PM
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That's a completely fair and rational follow up question. One major contribution is to have children, and help raise them. The other is to support the men any way they can. As you say, perhaps make drones and such. Back in WW2, women in the states went to work in factories, to help supply ammo, and the the rest of goods for the war. But, fairly, the us wasn't fighting a home turf war, that was to project that war to another land. In the case of Ukraine, invading soldiers could occupy, then rape …
/r/MensRights19/06/26 03:42 PM
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There was no translation needed. You read what you wanted to read into that. Not what my intent was, not what my message was. But what you wanted to read into it as. That's on you.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 01:57 PM
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"that clearly does not care about me. That isn't being a man its having no self respect. " You didn't absorbe anything i said huh... Men are to set and enforce the healthy boundaries. What about setting and enforcing do you not get? If someone doesn't respect you, then make changes. That's called enforcing healthy boundaries. If a society doesn't treat you with respect, enforce the healthy boundary. But you can't have it both ways, where you cower behind the one wielding the sword, then demonize…
/r/MensRights19/06/26 12:27 PM
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It absolutely is what it means to be a man. It's a big part of it. If you don't have the patriotic drive to serve your country, then you should at least have the drive to change it into what you would be driven to serve. Either way, you're serving your country. Being a man means to set and enforce laws and systems, to have a thriving society. If you don't have that, then it's your duty to make it such. If you don't "feel" that way, then you don't deserve the same protections that other men have …
/r/MensRights19/06/26 11:56 AM
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Being part of a nation means you must contribute to that nation. The largest thing men can contribute with is in the protection and enforcement of that nation. That's what it means being a man.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 11:20 AM
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A victory in war doesn't mean it was a great experience...
/r/MensRights18/06/26 08:10 PM
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Depends who the winners are. The reason things were good, was because the good ones won the power grab. The reason toxic is winning is because the bad ones are getting everything they ask for, and good ones aren't stopping them. Complete collapse means , very likely, bloodshed, and reset for who holds power. So, it just depends...
/r/MensRights18/06/26 04:23 PM
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Other victim mentality women. That's the problem. They get into this constant, perpetuating circle jerk of being victims. They make it up, then all claim they were the direct victims of it.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 01:49 PM
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Only two ways to come back from this really... complete collapse, or men stand up now in mass.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 10:48 AM
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I literally asked where it was, not all the ways it was hidden. If there are no policies, laws, (or anything we can see or measure), then there's zero evidence. So, I think it's important to point out where something is, so we can address it. Yet, what you're doing is gaslighting, and strawman fallacy. If it does exist, let's address it. Otherwise, all we can do is be aware that it could be out there. In fact, that there aren't anything concrete that anyone can point to, id argue loving women is…
/r/MensRights15/06/26 03:27 PM
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So basically, you're saying it isn't in anything tangible? That we can't see it, in any measurable way? Is that what you're saying?
/r/MensRights15/06/26 12:42 PM
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Out of curiosity, where is the misogyny?
/r/MensRights13/06/26 10:03 PM
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Thing is... the last 5 years have seen some extreme deterioration, as far as dating goes. Any sign that women can't control or take from men, and the women leave. There's no such thing as mutual anything anymore.
/r/MensRights12/06/26 10:31 PM
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What do toxic manipulators do, when confronted? Shame, insult, guilt trip, blame. Google top manipulation tactics, these pop up. So, of course, they will use strawman fallacy to attempt to shame us.
/r/MensRights11/06/26 03:47 AM
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It's all based on men never keeping strong boundaries. No one is ever respected unless they set and enforce boundaries. Men allow women to, therefore they do.
/r/MensRights04/06/26 10:09 PM
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What good leader doesn't hear out their companion's opinion? You're trying to make this into some extreme or another. Just because the man is top priority, it doesn't mean he should lead without her input. At the end of the day, you're painting it into something it's not. That is why today's society has the issues it has. Because people like you think if a leader has final say, it must mean their opinion is the only one that matters. No. The one that is responsible for survival should have the a…
/r/MensRights01/06/26 06:29 PM
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Same tier? Yet women have far more privileges, and not anywhere near the same responsibilities. How is that equal? How is that the same tier?
/r/MensRights01/06/26 10:37 AM
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The one responsible for survival traits should get top priority. The one for supporting roles should get second. Men are supposed to provide, protect, and lead. All survival responsibilities. Therefore, the man should be top. Women are to be for support, nurturing, and helping. All support roles. Therefore, she should get second. Children should be third. It's like in the plane. In an emergency, you put your own mask first, then the other's. If you don't get theirs on in time, you both die. If y…
/r/MensRights01/06/26 03:59 AM
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They don't have leadership, and they're already declaring on social media that the world would be better off without men... that alone tells me everything.
/r/MensRights22/05/26 05:10 AM
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The root cause is deeper. You asked how you cannot hate them. So, my solution to that, is to understand the root cause. Follow the rabbit hole. Men haven't stood up for their rights for a very long time. So, it's only natural that the other side is going to keep pushing. Human nature is to press until stopped. Modern men are pushovers. So, they will keep getting pushed. The next step is to understand your part in it. We can't control the hand that is dealt to us, in our generation. We also can't…
/r/MensRights22/05/26 02:57 AM
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The crazy part is it's always women advocating for telling men what they should do. But it's never women standing up against the men centered hatred... And yet... what do feminists love claiming?? That the whole movement is for equality. Laughable
/r/MensRights15/05/26 11:33 AM
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Yeah pretty much. Excessive delusion from women.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 10:36 AM
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France even openly admits it would cause too much ruckus
/r/MensRights15/04/26 01:06 AM
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Yeah that's exactly my thinking. Men only get to vote because they have to potentially fight and die for their country. So it is only fair that men get a say in who sends them off to war. But it isn't the same for women. Women get all the privileges, with none of the costs. It's not just. No one should have any say in that which they have no skin in the game for.
/r/MensRights14/04/26 10:29 PM
5

There's no equal to dying in combat. The equal part was just what men collectively decided was good enough. Raise kids, and stick around for life. If they didn't, then they became pariah of society.
/r/MensRights14/04/26 04:16 PM
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Either draft, or they can't vote. I'm convinced it is the source of why our society has declined so rapidly the last several decades
/r/MensRights14/04/26 03:41 PM
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You brush over selective service like it's nothing. The nuance of what it means is EVERYTHING. Men MUST serve at times. Give their lives. Something that only happens to women as a consequence of men surrounding them defeated in some way. Yet, women get the ability to make major decisions, that could send men to die, while women aren't. So women make decisions that play an active role in society, effecting things that could, and do, cost men dearly. That's not a small thing. Especially when women…
/r/MensRights13/04/26 03:43 PM
1

All chows are dogs. Not all dogs are chows. Not everyone that are able to say it are free of it. But certainly those not allowed to say it are. Though, if you are able to say it, it surely represents a much more lenient disposition than if you are totally. In this case, women usually argue that men oppress them. Yet, who is allowed to speak up? And who isn't? If it is truly one sided, and it is truly against women, then why do women get to openly show disdain and hatred towards men? Why are they…
/r/MensRights13/04/26 03:35 PM
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There isn't a goal post to move. You haven't stepped on the field to play. You're just outside the gates screaming in. You've got 2 brain cells fighting for 3rd, and don't realize it.
/r/MensRights13/04/26 01:43 AM
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Accusations from evil doesn't make it true. Anyone can accuse anyone else of anything. It doesn't make it true. Yet, we have direct physical evidence that numerous democrats did actual crimes. Yet, you ignore them, virtue signaling the whole trip, like you're on some moral high ground. And you come here, spewing the same indoctrinated rhetoric and propaganda, as if it's facts.
/r/MensRights13/04/26 12:41 AM
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What do you mean by "we need to be a little more extreme, in how we give our time to others?" How many women openly show hatred towards men, yet still get dates, husbands, even government handouts? Men have become ok with being slowly eaten by the system they allow. To put it more harshly, we need to stop sacrificing, in any way, for those that don't appreciate us. Let them starve. If they hate men, they shouldn't get government benefits, shouldn't get dates, shouldn't get college grants or scho…
/r/MensRights12/04/26 10:48 PM
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That's some powerful indoctrination you got there.
/r/MensRights12/04/26 10:42 PM
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I truly believe that's what we need. And also, we need to be a little more extreme, in how we give our time to others. Also, it greatly helps to build references/ evidence to our claims. Personally, I also financially contribute (indirectly as well as directly) to those that stand up against it. On Facebook, I give money to someone that stands up against the unbalanced court system, for example. And subscribe to those online that do similar. This way, it doubles up on shifting momentum. I'm my p…
/r/MensRights11/04/26 11:39 PM
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Been happening for decades. We gotta get more involved. Men have been seen as guilty until proven innocent for a long time. It will never change for the better if we just kept sitting idle when it happens
/r/MensRights11/04/26 10:45 PM
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They were in death camps.... you kind of missed the point.
/r/MensRights11/04/26 06:31 PM
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The problem isn't false allegations. It's that they are being taken as facts. There's a reason it's supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty". Men are too passive to push back against the system that are treated guilty until proven innocent. Protection means sometimes fighting back against unjust ways. Not simply taking videos to prove innocence. That's just supporting the broken system. There should be follow up. Judges, congressmen, etc should be held accountable for the prosecutions of fa…
/r/MensRights11/04/26 04:44 AM
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Lol it's way more simple than that. If women were oppressed, they wouldn't be allowed to say they are. Totally coincidentally, exactly as men aren't allowed to (without getting met with blaming, shaming, guilt tripping, gaslit, etc).
/r/MensRights10/04/26 12:31 AM
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It only happens because of how privileged women are. We men need to stop feeding the unappreciative. We need to save our care and generosity, for those that at least appreciate our sacrifices. As for the rest, we need to be ok with letting them starve. Zero special treatment. Zero privileges. Zero protections. Zero safety nets. That's truly the root cause to all the misandry, men are far too agreeable, and far too empathetic, to the detriment of men. And therefore society as a whole.
/r/MensRights09/04/26 04:39 AM
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I love how people like you gaslight and project. You're on here demonizing men for their opinion (and of the facts they state), on a sub for men to discuss with each other, all while claiming facts are evil, and men moreso for stating them, yet you attempt to appeal to men to be open to your opinion, while hating on men for theirs. You're truly a hateful person.
/r/MensRights30/03/26 11:22 PM
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Lol we always use logic and facts? Pretty sure you just proved yourself slower than intelligence. Really thought you were cooking huh?
/r/MensRights30/03/26 11:17 PM
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Men pay 76% of taxes. Women receive 80% of all welfare. Every number added to the mix after that just shows the true picture. Our system is set up to take from men, give to women, demonize men, and pedestalize women. Women receive every bail out, men sink or swim. All while women claim they want equal.
/r/MensRights30/03/26 10:37 PM
1

Let's get real here. Any men's issues are going to be gaslit and dismissed, unless we have overwhelming, unequivocal evidence of the observations we see first hand. My proposed solution: we make a central site online, with all the legit sources, and facts. link to it every time we have a discussion about it, with anyone we're debating. But, the harsh reality is... those that care, are working hard to make it in life in general. Therefore don't have the time to pour into that site. The ones that …
/r/MensRights25/03/26 01:55 PM
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Sadly women would not go to jail for that. That's how messed up it is for men. Women have online forums, discussing how to do just that to men. All to get child support.
/r/MensRights21/03/26 06:42 PM
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Solution: more workplace safety, better wages. (leftist) That wasn't the point of men doing those jobs. When that point is brought up, it's to say how the wage gap doesn't exist. Women want to paid equal, but never want to work the jobs that get paid more. They never want to work the really long hours that men do, to get that pay. Some jobs are inherently dangerous, no matter how many precautions one takes. Thereby making the jobs pay more (simple supply and demand). It isn't some left verses ri…
/r/MensRights15/03/26 01:33 PM
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I drop it immediately.
/r/MensRights08/03/26 07:55 PM
7

I believe that take is short sighted. It seems to me you are greatly underestimating the impact men can make, should we band together better. Just by refusing to marry, society would take a huge notice. By refusing to even date, it might only take 5 years before society starts flipping out. The government is already tracking kids being born, marriages, etc. We just have to effect those numbers. Even a 15% drop will cause alarms. If it's 70% (large majority), I believe laws will change quite fast…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 01:44 PM
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The main reason is why... it filters out those that aren't interested. If they insist on buying their time, they aren't there for you. So, it helps to weed out many that are only there for free stuff.
/r/MensRights05/03/26 11:16 PM
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I really wish it were otherwise, but a man shouldn't. Not until laws and court practices change to be more equal.
/r/MensRights05/03/26 11:10 PM
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Bring it up, and vast majority of time you'll get gaslighted, dismissed, or minimized. Discussion isn't the problem. The problem is the bias. The hatred of anything masculine these days is so prevalent, any mention of men problems will be met with toxic manipulation.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 04:59 AM
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That's the same logic women use, when they expect men to read their minds. An unexpressed boundary isn't a boundary. Expressing a boundary is telling them what you're ok with or not. Then it's up to them to decide to change that behavior or not. Then it's up to you to decide how much is too much, and therefore when to leave the relationship. Not saying what it is to begin with, it's just dumb
/r/MensRights24/02/26 06:27 AM
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When they pedestalize women, they find excuses for everything they do wrong. It's called bias. And it should be called out.
/r/MensRights18/02/26 08:27 PM
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Just remember: any time you want a life that doesn't pedestalize women, they will resort to shaming, insulting, guilt tripping, blaming. Manipulation tactics, in other words. It's like walking on a minefield, that you suspected was a minefield. But it goes on for so long, that you almost forget at times it is one. As soon as you let your guard down....
/r/MensRights10/02/26 11:54 PM
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It really doesn't though. The answer is always to follow the money. Men pay a very large amount of taxes (roughly 75%), women receive a very large amount of government assistance (ie, money originated from taxes)(roughly 80% of all welfare... add in government school grants, etc etc). On the front end, it might look relatively even. But, once you follow the money, it becomes extremely obvious how one sided it is.
/r/MensRights10/02/26 11:51 PM
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Their entire platform of power depends on men giving them power. If men are ignoring their manipulation, their only recourse is to try to manipulate more.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 05:04 PM
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I think if she isn't punished sufficiently, we all should sue the courts.
/r/MensRights06/02/26 04:35 AM
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That's the same thing... if you're afraid of consequences of doing that, then you are afraid of that. I'm afraid of heights. I'm afraid of falling to my death. Same thing. But, I also add: what's wrong with that? Nothing
/r/MensRights05/02/26 02:26 AM
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So then... that begs the question, what are you doing?
/r/MensRights23/01/26 01:40 AM
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You are simultaneously asking if men are being active in righting wrongs, and also complaining men on here aren't posting enough... Be the change you want to see in the world. The wolf that wins is the wolf you feed. Currently I'm donating to causes, where men are advocating for men's rights, fathers rights, etc. Every feminist group that pops up on my feed, I block. Every men's advocate i see gets a like and follow. In both the physical sense, and digital media sense, I'm pushing for men's righ…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 12:55 AM
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Every single one of those, we've found that feminism pushes for those things in greater extremes. You need to learn that, most times men say stuff to men, it's to warn of what men must do to get women. Meanwhile, covert feminists like you say it's men's fault, when it's women that insist on those roles. The further we get into the direction of feminism, the worst every one of those things become for men.
/r/MensRights19/01/26 03:44 PM
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That goes along with destruction of family. They destroy, and call it empowerment. They unravel, and call it righteous.
/r/MensRights12/01/26 09:10 PM
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Good. Men should always be in that state. Do what's right, and let the chips fall where they may
/r/MensRights12/01/26 03:48 AM
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It's like with any discipline. If you aren't consistent, too harsh, or not enough, then it's quite ineffective. Even detrimental. But, many times, the punishment is barely even a punishment. That's where the consequences are more severe.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 04:18 PM
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"prison is a terrible place to send people. Let them free" "don't whip the kids. You have to be understanding" It's all about nurturing their feelings, rather than enforcing boundaries to be safer. It's part of the demonizing of masculinity, which enforces boundaries to protect.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 03:05 PM
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Exactly. After all... ying yang was not about good verses evil, not order/ chaos. It was about feminine/ masculine.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 03:13 AM
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Yes. Look at what they seek. - destruction of family units. - power, via destruction of merit/ competency based structures - nurturing over safety. - demonizing masculinity (leadership, provision, protection). All of these things are cornerstones in successful societies. Pillars of infrastructure. And it's all being broken down, so that those women can get power. Instead of gaining that power through competency at those industries, they destroy it. All to gain authority.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 11:59 PM
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Sympathy isn't something you do because you get it back. But, being a healthy adult means you learn to only give to those that give back. So you're talking about 2 closely related things, but they shouldn't be mixed up. We should sympathize with them. But that doesn't mean we should be aquiescing to their every whim, as we are currently doing in society.
/r/MensRights08/01/26 12:25 AM
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I'll be honest here... I think it's been that way since the beginning of the movement.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 07:42 AM
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No. But I think the US should get out of it.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 12:53 AM
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Yes. It's a mask. Like most Marxist, feminist beliefs. They openly declare the other side is doing what they themselves are actively trying to do. It's a web of traps. That no feminist I've talked to yet is willing to follow to its end. At the final node, is hatred of masculinity. Even then, I'm not totally sure that is the end. I suspect it's deeper than that... I believe it's women's way of forcing (through the only way they can force us) to stand up against an overbearing system. Make it so b…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 04:40 AM
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To make people more dependent on the wealthy. That's why they're also quick to give handouts, from tax money.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 06:20 PM
1

Exactly. Supply and demand. Twice the workers, double the work output at same price
/r/MensRights27/12/25 06:17 PM
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I don't know if I'm right about this, I'm still thinking about it. I think gun violence is a mix of issues. boys are demonized from early on. Everything masculine is suppressed and demonized. Movies, shows, schools, procedures, disciplining, etc. It's all geared towards demonizing masculinity. Except one major thing, you can't suppress or eliminate masculine traits. You can't beat millions upon millions of years of evolution, just because women think it's evil. The masculine and feminine complem…
/r/MensRights27/12/25 02:08 PM
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That will never happen, because women can't serve in the same capacity. Not in a generalized, mass scale. My compromise is this: There should be 2 different levels of voting. Top level (like president, senators, etc) are for those that serve. Under that, for those that pay taxes in general. That way, there's no unfairness. Everyone being taxed is represented. But those forced to serve have a higher power, and therefore more fair, to make up for the sacrifices.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 11:28 PM
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Well it is disproportionate. Roughly 60-70% of dv are strictly women. So there's that
/r/MensRights22/12/25 04:44 PM
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It's all along the same attempts though. Compete with each other. That creates an unspoken hierarchy with them. Hypergamy never goes away.
/r/MensRights20/12/25 03:53 AM
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Look up common manipulation tactics. Shaming, blaming, insulting, guilt tripping.
/r/MensRights20/12/25 03:27 AM
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Women could also not accrue debt, all debt they accrued was put onto their husbands. So, men were 100% responsible for their wife. Further, women could inherent their late husbands finances and property. There were documented women millionaires back in the 1800s. Yet another gross misrepresentation of history.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 10:24 PM
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It's awfully convenient of a statement there. Presenting that in a way to demonize men, is arguing in bad faith. For the vast majority of US history, before that, most men and women weren't allowed to vote. The denial to vote was not exclusively towards women. After, the majority of men got the right to vote, if they signed up for selective service. Soon after, men asked women if they wanted it, they said no. Because they didn't want to need to sign up for selective service. To which, men have t…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 10:21 PM
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How is misogyny systemic? Give any example of that. Meanwhile, every step of the way, everything masculine is disregarded, dismissed, demonized, prosecuted, and ignored. As the other said, laws greatly favor women, and are against men. An exact example? If a woman rapes a man, he's ignored. Women even openly declare "you can't rape a man", while they laugh. Yet, if a man is said to have raped a woman, courts prosecute him to the fullest. Even with zero evidence, just by her word alone. There are…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 08:35 PM
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Read to understand, not to respond. What did I type directly after that? Lol people like you love downvoting to disagree, but you're not comprehending what I'm typing. Think before you respond.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 04:54 PM
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Then you are searching for reasons to dismiss or disagree. Your responses are giving vibes of "i want to demonize him, I just can't find any reason to directly". Sounds like a you issue. When you say "all men" I know you're not referring to disabled men, but it does give off a feeling of "useless men should be thrown into a pit of lava" I did address that very comment, I edited my response to add that very subject. I think even those with physical disabilities should, if they can. but it does gi…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 03:19 PM
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Lol that was never my argument. "Strong independent" females are full of bs. My argument was simply that I think all men should serve. And my main reasons really don't have anything to do with what I responded with. But you asked for those answers. So I gave them. But they are the results of men serving, not why I think they should serve. Not a lot of countries conscript females for support roles Yeah, and I'd claim for good reason. I don't think women should be forced to serve. I don't think it…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 03:07 PM
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Front line, it's been proven that women cannot cut it. For various reasons. Mainly because men have more strength, so women can't physically carry what they need in combat. Further, men deal with battle stress differently, and are better able to cope and make it. Whereas, women can't. The big media coverage women's groups have been reported to collapse in battle, crying and freezing up. So, they were pulled from front line. There are some women that can be, but it's very rare. Apparently far mor…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 03:02 PM
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Already done.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 01:59 PM
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I agree.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 12:14 PM
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Unpopular opinion: I believe that every man should serve. The issue isn't being forced to serve. You live in that land. It protects you and provides for you. If it doesn't, then that service should be in changing it, until it does protect you and provide for you. We men carry that burden in life. Any time you are in a social organization, we have duties to that society. The problem is, now days, it's like we are forced to those duties, yet that system is stacked greatly against us. That's why me…
/r/MensRights18/12/25 05:30 PM
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It's deeper than that. They must appeal to men to enforce regulations. Ultimately, it comes down to men to collectively stop enforcing what doesn't at least represent us normally and in neutrality. Negatively, and we should not even be participating. Ie, marriage, child custody, alimony, taxes (80% of taxes are paid by men), tax social benefits (75% of welfare goes to women). Every step of the way, men are demonized. Yet, women are given every feasible safety net. And still, women demand more pr…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 08:30 PM
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I don't agree. That would assume they have the ultimate power in our society. While it might seem they do, all of it is given to them by men. Men have the power, they just give the authority to women. If men collectively stopped giving into women's every demand, it wouldn't matter what feminists believed.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 07:33 PM
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Fair
/r/MensRights16/12/25 01:30 PM
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And see... with your positive attitude of appreciation, I'm sure that we men would love to rally to protect and provide for women like you. Thank you for appreciating us. It really does go a long way
/r/MensRights16/12/25 04:01 AM
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When will men learn... Women will always move the goal post. They will always resort to manipulation tactics, because they cannot resort to physical force. They must, always and forever, appeal to the men, to change other men. Shaming, insulting, blaming, guilt tripping. This rebranding is just the latest in the attempt to shame men. The harder we try to set and enforce boundaries, the faster they will cycle through rebranding manipulation tactics. They are quick to get into their echo chamber, …
/r/MensRights16/12/25 03:59 AM
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You are doing what you are claiming we shouldn't. If even a majority of them are like that, it's safe to generalize. In this case, the overwhelming majority of them are. there's still women who are kind and appreciative towards men. The overwhelming majority are not. That's the issue. We get mad if they generalized all men They are doing the opposite. They are generalizing all men, based on the small amount that they choose. We men are generalizing, based on the vast majority we encounter. Go ou…
/r/MensRights14/12/25 01:30 AM
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Men are now waking up to the fact that it is in no way equal. Now days, women have it so good, many more privileges than men. All while they claim they have it worse. Yet, they can't name a single thing that they have it worse in. But yeah, that's why men have made it that way for women. Because men want life to be good for women. The issue is that modem women don't appreciate it. They don't appreciate men at all, nor all the sacrifices we make for them. They live a life of cushions, all while s…
/r/MensRights14/12/25 12:30 AM
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Well and who cares if there is a patriarchy. The only issue is if it's a toxic one or intelligent (benefits everyone) type of patriarchy. We see how women use their power... extremely toxic.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 06:55 PM
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Actively doing something for men. Though, I would like to think it's more than that. I would hope that it's in true fairness to all, not just in favor of men. I often think of an intelligent decision as a decision that benefits all involved. So, I would hope that doing things in favor of men does not exclude fairness to women. I believe that is the stark difference that I see between MRA and feminism. After years of believing feminism, and advocating for fairness for women, I've realized that mo…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 09:15 PM
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It's easy to demonize based on data, when the only data you take is one sided. Ignoring men victims inflated the numbers against men. No surprise there
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:06 PM
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Are you referring to the men that doesn't want the kids to begin with, but didn't have a say in the matter? Or are you referring to the women that alienate the fathers, and therefore justice forcing him to pay for the kid that they never get to see? In either case, men get zero authority, while women get 100%. Responsibility without authority is slavery, which is what men currently are forced into.
/r/MensRights08/12/25 04:34 PM
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Hyperbole is the classic go to, to manipulate others to their will. Define to demonize, and all of a sudden, it becomes a huge cause that "needs" attention. I really wish every man would read the rational male. It should be required reading for men. Right up there with signing up for the selective service.
/r/MensRights08/12/25 04:28 AM
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Lol this whole thing cracks me up
/r/MensRights08/12/25 12:13 AM
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I didn't read beyond the title. Yes, it's rational to be apprehensive about marriage. Modem courts and society incentivizes women to leave, at the cost of men. It's extremely rare these days to find any woman that will stick around beyond her single friends echochamber, or gynocentric rhetoric in today's society. That same thing applies to even broke men. They even throw out a ton of prenups. Defeating the whole purpose. The fact that you're high earning just makes you a bigger target. Which mea…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 06:51 PM
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The only thing you failed at was having healthy boundaries. That's it. Read about healthy boundaries. Set and enforce them. Stop letting others take advantage of you. Stop letting your feelings of them, and your hopes of what they should feel about you, dictate your reactions, and blind you from enforcing the boundaries you should be. Enforcing healthy boundaries feels harsh, if you care. Problem is, that caring leads to your demise. Instead, save that caring for those that have proven they dese…
/r/MensRights26/11/25 01:01 AM
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It's their bludgeoning tool for forced social polarization. Your call. But remaining quiet is exactly how it got to be this bad to begin with. For decades, men have just let it happen. Let it grow and fester into what it is now. Remaining quiet about it is similar to not putting the lid onto a python enclosure, then wondering why it's taking over the Everglades.
/r/MensRights22/11/25 01:43 AM
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It's like a script of a movie. Everything points towards men=evil, women=infallible. Any man that disagrees with this script, is labeled with all kinds of demonized, manipulation tactics. The phrase masculinity crisis is just the latest attempt at the same, just the most recent propaganda rebranding.
/r/MensRights13/11/25 05:35 PM
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Not just 20s. It's that way for most women these days. Across several generations
/r/PussyPassDenied12/11/25 02:41 AM
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It's a desperation move to manipulate. They see men are starting to turn their backs on modern feminism bs. In larger numbers than ever. So, now they are trying really hard to manipulate men, to go back to being agreeable.
/r/MensRights08/11/25 06:14 PM
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That's a huge reason why the numbers are skewed too. How many dv cases don't even get counted, simple because it's the man that's the victim? It's truly sad.
/r/MensRights05/11/25 03:20 AM
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Well it's not about being negative. It's about correction.
/r/MensRights02/11/25 07:03 PM
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We are all famous enough to call it out. If she's posting on social media, then respond to it.
/r/MensRights02/11/25 03:03 PM
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Call her out. Silence is seen as being correct.
/r/MensRights02/11/25 01:11 PM
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Not by the church. That's the whole point. Church isn't preaching any of that. There might be some out there that do. But I haven't been to any. And that should say something, since I've been to over a hundred in the last couple years alone. Most of them pander to women, and make no suggestions about pushing women to do anything of the sort you're claiming. Yet, feminists love pushing the narrative that conservatives are saying that.
/r/MensRights29/10/25 05:40 PM
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Assuming i hate women, just because I disagree with you? Saying that having kids and being at home is a terrible thing? Convert feminist. For someone that isn't openly claiming feminism, you sure are spouting the same exact rhetoric as they do. But hey, keep yourself in delusion.
/r/MensRights29/10/25 03:16 PM
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Incorrect. You say those things as if they're an insult. Additionally, modern churches pander to modern women. Everything you're saying is just straight up feminist propaganda. The antithesis to equal. The antithesis to valuing men and women.
/r/MensRights29/10/25 02:54 PM
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Call it out for what it is. Then separate yourself from that group. I also like taking screenshots of those comments. They become my proof, of when people say it isn't dismissed, etc.
/r/MensRights27/10/25 04:34 PM
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Because modern churches are drinking in the same gynocentric propaganda that most of society is. They have become what Christ himself said to avoid. They are of the earth, not just in it.
/r/MensRights27/10/25 04:17 PM
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Lol I'm sure all the guys thought the same thing, when they find out at 70, that their kids aren't theirs. You dating you don't need one is a cope. It's you being in denial. Naive at best
/r/MensRights25/10/25 03:32 PM
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Ok I get what you're saying now. I just couldn't get what you were saying, your original response had too many gaps in it lol but yeah I hear you now. I agree. As you said though, it's hard to find benefits. Even still, with all the stretched benefits, they are greatly outdone by all the negatives. The pros cons list almost always shows this one to be stupid to try lol
/r/MensRights23/10/25 03:00 AM
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Sorry.. I tried understanding that. I wanted to laugh with you. I just don't get what you mean lol
/r/MensRights23/10/25 02:45 AM
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That's closer to women's nature. Rollo tomassi explains it best.
/r/MensRights22/10/25 11:43 PM
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That's a valid benefit. However, the list against is larger.
/r/MensRights22/10/25 04:13 PM
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Risk verses reward. I challenge everyone... make a list that favors the decision to get with a single mom.
/r/MensRights21/10/25 10:48 PM
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He'd be in jail. Gotta love that modem female privilege
/r/MensRights21/10/25 10:03 PM
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Yeah they do lol their words say they don't. Their actions say they do. Actions speak louder than words. Hell, there are hundreds of videos online of them openly admitting they do. So there's that
/r/MensRights21/10/25 04:03 PM
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The only reason it exists, is because men allow it. It would be like stopping the rain from dropping into the house. We build huts that can do this. We can build survival shelters that do this pretty well. All the adverse effects that feminism causes, can be stopped just as simply. All by setting and enforcing healthy boundaries. If women refuse to appreciate that which is given easily to them, then they don't get those things. If the hunting party took weeks to hunt down sufficient food for the…
/r/MensRights18/10/25 12:01 AM
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When you realize it's just an attempt for them to manipulate you, then you'll realize two things: it doesn't bother you anymore, and the fact it doesn't bother you ends up bothering them. So my response is usually along those lines... I thank them for passively admitting I'm right, or call it out for being manipulation. Then move on with my life.
/r/MensRights17/10/25 05:55 PM
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Read rollo tomassi's book, the rational male. It explains this very dynamic. It's all a ploy to keep getting more privileges for them. Got nothing to do with truth or abilities.
/r/MensRights15/10/25 02:44 PM
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Exactly.
/r/MensRights11/10/25 12:31 AM
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Lol you are vastly underestimating the commonality of straight stupidity. You have to realize. The vast majority of people do not have the capability to foresee the consequences of decisions. Which means they cannot see the ignorance on their own mindsets. No matter how much you tell them, most cannot grasp it. That goes for men and women. That's why it's supposed to be left up to society to set up rules and social norms, to avoid those consequences. That's why it's supposed to be set up, to rel…
/r/MensRights10/10/25 10:52 PM
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You sound like a toddler on the faith, rebellious and childish. But hey, that's between you and Jesus.
/r/MensRights10/10/25 10:43 PM
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So we're clear here.. it's social, but no society in the history of humanity is ever recorded as largely not protecting and providing for women...? It's not biological nature, yet the only ones that don't are ostracized, in every culture, in every society ever recorded this far? Not doing so for women is usually given with numerous justifications for making the exception. Yeah I don't buy it. It might be hugely supported through societal construct. But if it had no biological basis, then it woul…
/r/MensRights06/10/25 11:00 PM
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If many men stood together, we could put some heavy pressure on the courts, to stop screwing over men in divorces, and or child custody rulings. It doesn't even need to be physical. It can just be financially effective. We could show up to local courts, in support of men going through these issues. We could hold women accountable for how they're falsely accusing, etc. We could stand up to correct other men, and women, from making false claims. Thereby slowing social polarization and manipulation…
/r/MensRights06/10/25 04:43 PM
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I agree there. But there is masculinity in teaching boys that their feelings can't dictate their actions.
/r/MensRights06/10/25 12:36 PM
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Your points aren't very clear at all, in what you're trying to say. Every statement you make can be interpreted multiple ways, each conflicting with each other.
/r/MensRights06/10/25 12:32 PM
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Your statements are contradictory to rational self interest. Therefore, your proposed solution is more likely to fail than to have any positive change. So, I propose that we stand up against the system, just not in the ways you mentioned to do so. Going to jail only feeds the system, not counters it. Instead, maybe contribute to a cause that already fights the system (those that are already going to courts to give men more rights, and take away unfair privileges that women have. Etc. Etc) Stop g…
/r/MensRights06/10/25 03:50 AM
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Of course. Just as it's a natural instinct to protect women, it's a natural instinct to protect offspring. it's up to society to teach how to channel these instincts, into healthy avenues. Problem is, masculinity is demonized. Therefore, from early on, those healthy avenues are forgotten, and ostracized. It's no longer about loving. It's men being hated on, until they either snap, or they withdraw.
/r/MensRights06/10/25 03:43 AM
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Our nature is to protect and provide for them. To the point that we will go against other men. Problem is, that very dynamic is what can lead to them being more harmed than either one of those. As the more we listen to women, the more we do them harm, and the less that they are provided for.
/r/MensRights06/10/25 02:11 AM
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God tells men how to set up and enforce boundaries for a society. It's up to men to make that happen. Ergo, men are the ones that make that happen for women. If men decided to take away said privileges, there's nothing women can do, that will be effective in stopping that from happening. To believe otherwise is just showing how pampered you are from life. 1:26-28 that God gave humanity, both male and female, dominion and responsibility over the earth and all its creatures There are several verse…
/r/MensRights02/10/25 12:26 AM
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That kind of supports my claim, not disproves it. Men are starting to wake up, and put up boundaries. And the smallest changes are causing wide spread change. If we put up that same level of resistance, towards every healthy boundary, the large majority of our issues would cease to exist.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 03:50 PM
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Lol now...? That was the last straw for you? Let's be real here, we all know it's been out of hand for a while now
/r/MensRights01/10/25 02:17 AM
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There is no war on men. It's men's jobs to set and enforce boundaries. For decades now, they've pushed, and we've not pushed back. We've shown too little resistance. So, we've shown no boundaries. So, we don't see change.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 02:15 AM
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I say yes. They could choose the types of men that would care about their orgasms. But they choose men that don't. So, it's their fault. Just like it's their fault for choosing abusive men. They filter out all the men that aren't, then complain those men don't change.
/r/MensRights28/09/25 10:46 PM
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I don't really know of many honestly. But I would bet that many are. And many i don't think are. But, the more important question is... who cares. Even if 100% are, it doesn't change the fact that their public message is against the modern feminist machine. And it gains male attention. Which, at the very least, causes female mating instincts to short circuit. If women hear the same message, from men they don't care about, they won't change their minds ever. But, if they see another woman being t…
/r/MensRights26/09/25 03:15 AM
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Well that's the secret to humans in general. Actions speak louder than words. It's not just some over played idiom. It holds water every time.
/r/MensRights23/09/25 01:30 PM
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And how does that disagree with what I said? I agree with you. I think there should be a balance. Right now though, we men are giving far too many protections. To the point that they are trying to push the men off the proverbial cliff. So, I agree that we should be letting them experience that danger. We need to let some "starve" (ie, face the consequences of their actions), because that's from their very own decisions. Especially while they are openly being hateful towards us
/r/MensRights19/09/25 11:11 PM
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It's because women live a life of pillows, that men surround them with. We give them every safety net we can. That's why they shouldn't be in charge of anything major... because they are free from the majority of the consequences. Therefore, they have a warped sense of reality. Danger to them is when a pillow is replaced, they are less protected. In real terms, they make decisions, and never have to experience the full consequences of those decisions. So, they very well could start wars, lead to…
/r/MensRights19/09/25 09:37 PM
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I did not know that part.... wow that's crazy. Hell, for that kind of money, he could've hired several people to try, like some kind of tryout. Then pick the best one to take over after that.
/r/MensRights19/09/25 06:20 PM
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To carry that over, logically, so women should also not get a say in who runs the country. No one should ever get a say in a game they don't have skin in.
/r/MensRights19/09/25 05:29 PM
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Problem there is... most likely, the best person to carry the torch, would be someone that couldn't afford to buy it from him. So, it's a stalemate there. Lucas would've had to found someone to be a good fit, maybe partner with them to make a few, then make some kind of deal from there. But of course that's not going to mean he gets that 4 billion dollars from Disney.
/r/MensRights19/09/25 05:16 PM
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Men have been given more for accusation. So, yes, it is a light sentence for the crime.
/r/MensRights16/09/25 12:55 AM
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Yes. It's absolutely garbage. So, I call it out every time.
/r/MensRights13/09/25 02:44 AM
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Just because you disagree with how something is, it doesn't stop it from being a requirement for men. Deleting and ignoring a cost that men have to pay, isn't proof that men have the same privileges as women...
/r/MensRights13/09/25 02:43 AM
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Gaslighting at its finest. Delete one side as possible. Then use that as "proof" that the data shows ___ conclusion.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 08:04 PM
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And that's just two factors... to say nothing for how many times courts will side with women, in custody and divorces. Despite men wanting otherwise. To say nothing about how that determines child support and alimony. That's just the tip of the iceberg. It's extremely obvious these days, just how screwed over men are.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 07:58 PM
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I'm genuinely curious... can you link any instance of him advocating for people to be shot, that disagreed with him?
/r/MensRights11/09/25 01:40 PM
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Agreed. Most taxes come from men. Most tax benefits go to women. That said, it's a whole system that paints that picture more clearly. Not just taxes.
/r/MensRights10/09/25 11:55 PM
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The only way to fix things is to go backwards in many ways. Rebuild the family. Real time data shows that men make better parents, in raising positive members of society. So, courts need to stop enabling women to being the default custodians. In fact, data supports men being the better default custodians. No more incentivizing women to divorce. No more no fault divorce. No more believe all women (women can accuse men of anything, and the courts will jump straight to believing them). Stick to the…
/r/MensRights08/09/25 08:40 PM
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The number one lesson for men: STOP listening to women's words. Only pay attention to their actions. Some women care about men's issues. Most don't. Either way, their actions will prove it to you. Their words will not
/r/MensRights06/09/25 04:45 AM
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Well, beyond genocide being used incorrectly, I think you're far too zoomed in. It's a purposeful degradation. But not annihilation of men. It's to weaken men, so we are pacified, while the other pieces move into place. By the time we are aware of what's going on, checkmate will be near imminent. But that's the typical human behavior. That's why systems never last forever. Our greatest strength is also our greatest weakness. Forgetting.
/r/MensRights04/09/25 04:20 PM
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It's their tactic to appeal to the good natural instinct of men, to protect and provide for. It's hatred, under the guise of honor. At the heart of it, this is how Marxism thrives. By claiming the other side is the evil, it speaks to the masculine nature, to drive the instinct to provide and protect. "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - mark Twain Once they believe they are the honorable ones, it becomes near impossible to get them to reconsider. So, what d…
/r/MensRights02/09/25 04:09 AM
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Men's value is only as much as men enforce it to be. No boundaries leads to no value perceived. Men going quiet, when women speak: no boundary. Men not speaking up or calling out the bs: no boundaries Men not standing up against unfair systems: no boundaries. Everything that women have, it's because men have it to them. Those women complaining about men, or resorting to manipulation tactics, aren't any effect, unless men allow it to be effective. The only thing counter productive is men still al…
/r/MensRights01/09/25 09:10 PM
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It's because they know, any equality will push away the privileges they currently enjoy. Feminism has never been about equality. If you ignore their words, and just look at actions, or becomes painfully clear. At first, they wanted privileges, with a few added responsibilities as possible, and giving up the responsibilities they had. Then, it became about putting more responsibilities onto men, without any return value added. Now, it's about removing more of their responsibilities, and still att…
/r/MensRights29/08/25 11:01 PM
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I agree. I think they just don't want to stand up for themselves. Which looks awfully similar to enjoying it. Which is absurd.
/r/MensRights28/08/25 03:30 AM
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It's very much evidence in them having zero empathy. It's all geared towards manipulation. They will keep going, until they meet a wall they can't get around or through. They will complain. But if it's a hard boundary, they'll eventually stop. The current issue is that men don't put up walls. They try, then cave as soon as women complain. The why is purely selfish of them.
/r/MensRights28/08/25 01:13 AM
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So, we need to stop contributing to anything against our best interests. And, contribute, if even small amounts, to things that are for us. You're absolutely right about your assessments. We just need to move forward, and stop ourselves from being abused by society.
/r/MensRights28/08/25 01:10 AM
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Yeah! Let's get this going! Fairness all the way. Else, we won't support it.
/r/MensRights28/08/25 01:06 AM
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Here's what I think: I think we should start contributing to people that are already going that way. For example: mark ludwig is currently advocating for rights of fathers. He has a Facebook group, where you can subscribe for $9.99/ month. That's one way. I only know about it, because that's what I'm currently doing. But, really you can choose any major cause that means something to you. I recommend these types of people, because it's far more likely their cause is legitimate, and that they will…
/r/MensRights28/08/25 12:45 AM
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Lol you don't know me or what I've been through. I've fought back more in the last few years than you probably have your whole life hiding in your basement. Even still, that doesn't matter. My original point was go out and try again. Yours is to hide away and give up, and speak out against men trying any other way than hiding. That alone is every bit of evidence of which is the right way. One may lead to positive change. The other leads to negative change. I'll leave it up to your superior intel…
/r/MensRights27/08/25 11:53 PM
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Ok cool. Stay in your victim mindset, never go out to try anything to fight back. Just stay in your basement and cry about it. Meanwhile, don't talk down to others attempting to change things for the better, like you're currently doing. If you're going to hide away and do nothing, at least sit back and let others attempt to better the lives of men, without going against them. All you're doing is stifling any improvement, and complaining about no improvement.
/r/MensRights27/08/25 11:33 PM
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Fair enough. But at least trying to start over is better than wasting away, huddled in the corner, feeling helpless. Still, challenges exist, that we wish didn't. But, the answer isn't to just give up and say woes me. You're absolutely right, about all those things happening, and how unjust it is. But I was suggesting a way to get out and try. Not to solve all issues that come from it. We really need to get together and start fighting against this system. We need to get groups started, contribut…
/r/MensRights27/08/25 11:06 PM
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So don't update social media. I agree that men have it bad these days. But, there are solutions that help minimize that. Like, not updating where you live in social media, not having contact with those you used to, etc. The situation sucks.
/r/MensRights27/08/25 03:37 PM
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Not sure what to do to help. Most attorneys provide free consultation, usually for a small amount of time. Id recommend going to an attorneys office, and seeing if they could help. Otherwise, perhaps you could up and leave the area, if at all possible. Then start fresh. Sorry this is happening to you. I wish you well in your journey.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 11:53 PM
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I think any abuser like that should face some serious repercussions. I'm sorry that you had that happen to you, and that they seemingly got away with it. I really hope you find healing. And i hope justices is done.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 08:48 PM
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There are definitely limits to everything. But, today's society has really swung tree pendulum deep into hate all men territory, and pedestalizing women. Take all the current cases coming out in the media. Women are killing kids, and their spouses. They're breaking their vows in record numbers, and molesting kids (teachers sleeping with minors). Yet, still look at the served time. You'd have to get 10+ women together, to add up to one man, given the same crimes. That's absolutely absurd. And the…
/r/MensRights26/08/25 01:05 AM
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It's an incredibly broken, biased system. Women? Instant pass. And the more they cry, the more pass they get. It's very rare for them to be held accountable, in any way. The more people stand up against that system, then eventually it'll change.
/r/MensRights25/08/25 11:38 PM
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Lol that's not how it worked. As one example: most women refused to push to vote. They said it was because they didn't want to be drafted. So men made it to where they could, without having to be drafted. It wasn't a fight. It was straight up men giving it to them (while they were trying to reject the whole thing), while not making them pay the consequence on top of it. Define any instance where women "fought" for anything. Peacefully marching while topless isn't fighting. The most they do is pr…
/r/MensRights21/08/25 11:14 PM
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Yeah right lol the law coddles women, no matter their crimes. It's very rare to see true justice dished out to any woman. It shouldn't be that way. But men can't seem to get together, to fight back against that system.... so it'll keep getting worse until men decide to change that.
/r/MensRights11/08/25 05:37 AM
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Exactly. It makes you wonder if some places have it right, with how they don't give certain privileges.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 10:49 PM
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It's never been a war, from the men's perspective. A war from the men's perspective would last seconds. Remember: men give women every privilege they have. All it would take is for men to decide to stop the bs.
/r/MensRights21/06/25 02:28 AM
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I disagree. It is only an abuse of power they have. To stop them from getting your provision, all we have to do is refuse. It is predatory however to have multiple systems in place to force men to pay for their stuff... which there are multiple of.
/r/MensRights14/06/25 03:10 PM
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First, absolutely stunning work there. Second, id like to point out that many countries don't count female to male sexual assault as valid sexual assault. Their laws literally state exclusively male to female is against the law. So by law, female to male doesn't exist. Which would greatly skew the results, in favor of men looking like the majority of perps. Other countries, like the us, go largely unreported, and largely undocumented, for similar reasons. Because law enforcement, as well as cour…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:21 AM
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Who says I haven't? I've greatly removed myself from many things I used to engage in. All for the sake of protecting and providing for myself. As you said, many systems are rigged against us. So don't participate in them. Until laws change, I'm not getting married. As far as dating goes, it's important to be selective, but still reasonable. If it doesn't fit, then move on. Simple as that. When i was actively seeking lifelong partnership, I found myself forcing women into being compatible with me…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:10 AM
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Everyone has three lives: a public life, a private life and a secret life. - Gabriel García Marquez There are whole psychology/ sociology studies around this concept. And it isn't just men. It's women too. It's not as ominous as you might think. It just seems that way at first. In fact the cia and fbi teaches that psychology. Why? Because it shows one use for it. It all boils down to safety. We must have 3 layers of protection. But, we must also have levels of vulnerability. After all, we must h…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 02:03 AM
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Overall, I think it's important to speak on the silent killer of infrastructure.... a certain individual went on national television, decades ago (80s), and outright said he HATED AMERICA, AND WOULD DO ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO TO DESTROY IT. His exact words nearly ("I hate this country..."). He has poured billions into that cause, and now passed the 'legacy' to his son. Going back, there have been multiple documents found, of other wealthy people/ families, that have said similar. In other words, it…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 12:54 AM
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Yeah they did. A lot was expected of them back then. My great grandmother and grandmother's generation was extremely hard working. To say otherwise it's disingenuous, and just as disrespectful as what women are saying about men now. How do I know? Because my grandfather, and great grandfather, would tell me how much they did. Not just as some hyperbole. But they'd list many things that were actually hard work. Great grandmother, for example, would go help with the farm work. Then come back in, t…
/r/MensRights13/06/25 12:12 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree. And the sad reality is... it got that way because men stopped standing up to the bs. They let it go on. Now, we have to do the harder work. If we want this to stop, we have to stand up to it every time. We must remain inexhaustible. Otherwise it'll keep growing out of control, until a great rebalance is the only path left... and that's a scary day right there.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 02:43 PM
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Nobody's blaming men Except that's exactly what women do. Blame men. Y'all seem to think that providing something (centuries ago) no one asked for entitles you lifelong gratitude When did I say that? Strawman fallacy right there I said that women are rewriting history, to make it seem like men are some evil beings. While completely negating their own choices in the matter as valid. Women are pushing back and telling you no. No to what? Pushing back against what? You're so close, yet so far from …
/r/MensRights12/06/25 03:46 AM
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You read to respond instead of understanding. Internalize what I'm saying, and you'll get it. With us together, men and women, choosing that path leads to survival AND thriving. Feminists choice is to crumble and destroy, while claiming it's for the best. You're on here trying to blame men for your choice, and claim it's because you're exercising your choice. But so is choosing to survive and thrive. You claim it's men who are trying to get you to choose the path... it's not. Men are telling you…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 03:19 AM
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Women demonize men. The agreement was never a blank check, for men to sacrifice for nothing. We, men and women, sacrificed together. The moment women demonized men for everything, and provided nothing in return, then that's when men stopped being your sacrificial lambs for you to slaughter. You stay in a victim mindset, all while blaming men for everything evil in the world. Women like you rewrite history, to gaslight society into Marxism, and claim it's because of men. It wasn't choice that sto…
/r/MensRights12/06/25 01:11 AM
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What happened? The rich and malicious struck at women. They propagandized, indoctrinating women into believing that leaving families behind was the way to go. That it was freeing and liberating to sleep around, and warring against men. That it was righteous to demonize the protectors they had through history. And women ate it up. They chose diamonds and hair cuts, over smiling children holding their hands.
/r/MensRights12/06/25 12:59 AM
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Change the laws. Stop incentivizing women to leave. No fault divorce needs to go, for starters. The whole take half bs was for when women didn't work. So get rid of that too. Child custody needs to be more fair too, and cold support needs to be limited. And there needs to be some kind of agreement, or compromise. Especially with sex. Too many women stop having sex with their man after marriage. So women need to come up and give a good alternative, that they are also good with. Forced celibacy is…
/r/MensRights11/06/25 08:45 AM
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Yes. Hating all of a group is a huge red flag. Whether it's race, sex, or whatever. If she hates men, why would i, in any way, want to be associated with someone that hates me? And how in the world would that make her a friend?
/r/MensRights09/06/25 08:34 PM
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I recommend you read/ listen to the rational male. Where it breaks down the beyond the why that women do this. It's an attempt to manipulate. I no longer look at women's nature as vile, instead I think of it in terms of doing what's right, and the why behind their words and actions.
/r/MensRights04/06/25 04:01 PM
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True. But it's the why behind what they're doing that's important.
/r/MensRights04/06/25 03:59 PM
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They don't NEED to manipulate men. They could also just, you know, cooperate, be a good person, find a good husband and support him, etc. The underlying premise to my point, is that to keep their agenda going, they absolutely need to manipulate men, in order to get men to comply. As far as cooperating, the feminist propaganda has been against that for years. Submission is a point of contention for them. Does a small, physically weak man need to be a manipulator, even though he couldn't beat up a…
/r/MensRights03/06/25 09:40 PM
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Here's the thing though.... Everyone knows, in general, that women are physically inferior. Meaning, they can't physically force us to do anything. Which means, they MUST resort to mentally "making" us (via coercion, manipulation, etc). And perhaps, if they can, get other men to side with them, by those same means. So, is it really childish? Or is it the only means to which they can balance it out? That said, i agree totally. The sooner we men realize their tactics, the better our lives truly wi…
/r/MensRights03/06/25 05:41 AM
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They do that for anything, that could be used as derogatory towards men. Hence, shame and insult. It becomes another tool to use, to attempt to avoid accountability, and take the attention away from them. To get people on their sides. They do the same exact things to other women, should those women prove to be good competition against them.
/r/MensRights02/06/25 11:27 PM
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You're missing the intent behind their words. Number one lesson about women: always listen to their actions far more than their words. It's an attempt to shame and insult... if you Google "common manipulation tactics", you'll quickly find those very examples, and the why behind their uses. It's not sexual harassment. It's disrespectful. But not harassment. But, once you have figured out what their intentions are, you'll realize how to overcome them, and then rise above their attempts, should you…
/r/MensRights02/06/25 10:39 PM
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Lol no but I wouldn't doubt it one bit.
/r/MensRights02/06/25 07:56 PM
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I've literally been asking for ONE example, for a while now. The best counter I've gotten so far was, "you should fight for your own". Then I like to point out several times that men were the ones responsible for giving rights and privileges to them. They just resort to trying to rewrite history. Google truly is a great tool for quick response to them lol
/r/MensRights02/06/25 01:27 PM
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Women who do that are rushing to have a kid. They know their bio clock is ticking. And they know you will pay child support, and the government will enable the whole thing. The short: they don't care what type of relationship it'll be, because they aren't looking to stay in one that long. Advice: run. Not even worth the risk of having your fun with them. Just part ways. Your priorities seem like they're in the correct spot, as to searching for the right relationship first, then wondering about k…
/r/MensRights28/05/25 09:10 AM
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The English language doesn't do the concept justice. Look up Greek types of love. Further, I don't know why it's such a weird concept. Women love their family and friends very well many times. Yet, then they'll turn right around and limit it to butterflies only for the man. I've personally seen, many times, women turn to their childhood friends, perfectly spell out their feelings, then turn around and give their man the silent treatment. When I call it out, they just say something like "well if …
/r/MensRights23/05/25 01:54 AM
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The more unbiased you look at the dynamics, between men and women, the more tilted you see the scales are against men. After I saw how high the women were, i began to look for groups with like ideas. That's when I stumbled upon this group. Funny enough, most people in this group aren't so extreme. Say something totally not justified, going too far against women? Well, very likely many in this group will stand up and correct you. That's how things should be. Not in the pursuit of power and privil…
/r/MensRights23/05/25 12:24 AM
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It's their way of gaslighting. Trying to make everyone believe a hatred doesn't exist. Then, the classic rewriting of history. Throughout most of human history, both men and women were oppressed, depending on the class, etc. Every point they try to make, is just a rewriting of history, to make them look like ultimate victims, and to give men zero credit for the positive changes they helped make. As for your response: great! We truly need to stop letting them have any platforms of lies and deceit…
/r/MensRights23/05/25 12:18 AM
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Well yeah... because it prevents one sided benefits from initiating it. "Never sign a contract, where the other side is exclusively incentivized for breaking it".
/r/MensRights19/05/25 08:24 AM
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Insinuating something isn't as serious as someone says, is a form of denial. That said, I'm not viewing it nearly as any extreme as my text might suggest. I'm simply stating that it might be far more serious than you might think. That, in fact, I might not be overstating it.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 04:23 AM
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Anything is laborious to those that already hate the subject at hand. Feminism is, and always has been, about rising hatred of men. They go into it biased, and therefore they see anything they themselves doing in that relationship as a burden. They will define anything and everything in this light. Expect it, and it just makes sense. It will not be the last thing they try either. It'll keep coming. Because they love to hate men. Next, they'll say kissing is some laborious burden they have to car…
/r/MensRights19/05/25 04:08 AM
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Sure, deny all you like. I've seen it first hand. It greatly depends on the judge at the time. I've seen video and audio recordings not even be enough to get a dude out of the line of fire from the court. All it takes is for the judge to believe her side, and it's over.
/r/MensRights19/05/25 03:33 AM
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First, I'm not looking at it from a defeatist standpoint. I'm looking at it from today's reality. I'm not overstating anything. I'm stating it, because it's the vast majority of cases. Second, on to the point of defeatism, to say how it is isn't accepting ultimate, hopeless defeat. It should be a big wake up call. Understating threats is far more dangerous that overstating it. We should all be together, and this should be a call to action. We men need to show up, to change things. Right now, we …
/r/MensRights19/05/25 03:17 AM
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Truly wake up. It's both sides that are the issue. One side pushes to make things worse, the other puts up no boundaries to stop the other side.
/r/MensRights18/05/25 04:13 AM
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In today's courts that doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights18/05/25 04:03 AM
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The numbers haven't flipped, though trans men have increased to be close to, but still less than, trans women. Otherwise, agreed.
/r/MensRights17/05/25 02:39 AM
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All great points. Kind of makes you wonder... how bad does it have to get for men, for them to all give up on the whole institution of it. It seems it's already fairly extreme, against men. So, I have to wonder, why do men get married there, at all? At what point does the question become "how dumb do you gotta be to keep getting married"?
/r/MensRights14/05/25 05:52 PM
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It's classic gaslighting.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 04:32 PM
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You're right. But be prepared for the consequences. They'll attempt heavy manipulation tactics. Shame, insult, guilt trip, blame, etc. They will attempt to get others to believe in those tactics, and even try to get other men to bully you into submission. It's something we should absolutely do. But, we should also be aware of the consequences for such a thing. The answer is: if enough of us stand up for men's rights, and enough of us are punished for it, then eventually enough men will band toge…
/r/MensRights21/04/25 12:26 AM
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Yeah i just posted a list of the metallurgy points. Not all of them applied to the subject. But, I do like how physics applies to human interactions. In this case, how the concepts of weakness applies to the subject.
/r/MensRights12/04/25 04:02 PM
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In metalworking, "weakness" typically refers to a condition where a metal component becomes prone to failure, often due to repeated stress or damage. This can manifest as fatigue, corrosion, or other defects that reduce the metal's ability to withstand applied loads. Here's a more detailed breakdown: 1. Metal Fatigue: Metal fatigue is a process where metal parts weaken over time due to repeated stresses, even if the stresses are below the metal's ultimate strength. It can lead to the formation o…
/r/MensRights11/04/25 06:34 PM
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It's only that way because it's perpetuating cycle, until we stand up for ourselves. Those before us didn't stand up for themselves, so it got worse, until it's in the dilapidated state we have now. If we don't push back now, it'll eventually get to another state, where the only way back is bloodshed. That's how "weak men create tough times. Tough times create strong men..."
/r/MensRights11/04/25 04:41 PM
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Of course. Because men never stop the moving wall, pushing them off the cliff. They just let it move. "A lack of boundaries invites a lack of respect"
/r/MensRights11/04/25 01:36 AM
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Because, any space where we can be in a group together, it's seen as a threat to their takeover. Remember, equality was never their goal.
/r/MensRights08/04/25 01:59 AM
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People in general, if never held accountable for their poor decisions, will never think they could be the problem.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 12:52 AM
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Google "do toxic people play the victim" That's all you'll need to know. It's not about what they actually believe, it's what they want others to react with.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 12:51 AM
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I no longer try to date. I've done a lot of work on myself, mainly realizing why I was just as much at fault as my ex. Because I allowed it to happen. I allowed the relationship to continue even though I saw red flags. If a woman doesn't bring what I need, then it just won't work. If she shows red flags, then release her back to the streets. I'm no longer the "we have great potential" guy. I'm now the "let's see measurable, reasonable progress, or I'm out" guy. If any attempt at accountability i…
/r/MensRights28/03/25 11:40 PM
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It's the same answer every time. Google manipulation tactics. Shaming, blaming, accusing, insulting, guilt tripping These are all ways that manipulators will use, to attempt to change the behaviors of others. Any time they go to those methods, for no provocation, it means they're attempting to manipulate their audience. Plain and simple
/r/MensRights28/03/25 01:28 AM
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Feminism: fascism Masculinity: fair and open discussions. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
/r/MensRights26/03/25 01:32 AM
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Be in any long term relationship with a woman, and you'll find out really quick who breaks down from rejection. There are some men that don't deal with it well. And there are some women that don't deal with it well. But men are, in large majority of cases, expected to pursue, while women mostly don't, in the slightest. Further, let's consider how women think. They will remember the bad men, and forget the good men. The men that respond in positive ways, they'll never even blip in her memories. T…
/r/MensRights26/03/25 01:30 AM
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Once you realize the game, you'll never meet those phrases with anything except avid apathy. Shame, insult, blame, guilt trip. That's their go to moves for attempting to manipulate you. As soon as they go there, it's a low key way to admitting they've lost, that they feel inferior to you. So, no need to be disgusted, or angry, or anything really. Just put them in your "couldn't care less about them" box. And move on with your life. Don't argue, every word you speak after that is a waste of breat…
/r/MensRights22/03/25 01:08 PM
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Switch the genders and is it still OK? The answer is usually "hell no". And so should it be with men/ boys.
/r/MensRights22/03/25 01:29 AM
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Someone breaks into your home with a gun.... you going to talk them to death? You going to cower in a corner, hoping they'll leave? At some point, the only way to protect is to fight. And sometimes the only way to make them stop attacking, is to kill. It doesn't mean that's the first choice, or a desirable one. It means it's the only viable option to protect.
/r/MensRights11/03/25 07:50 AM
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The harsh reality is that is incredibly short sighted. Men are absolutely designed for war, by nature. Men's natural responsibilities are: protect, provide, lead. Part of protection is fighting. We should try every avenue to avoid that. But, that has a limit. And certain circumstances only allows for fighting. To claim otherwise, is to avoid the harsh reality of nature. Without the proclivity of violence, our species would've died off a long time ago. That proclivity though has a down side. It m…
/r/MensRights10/03/25 08:22 PM
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"We're having a discussion about men right now. Talking about women is a different conversation. Please stay on topic" It's not a versus. If they can't stay on topic, they aren't worth discussing anything with.
/r/MensRights09/03/25 03:34 PM
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If anyone says that to me...i indeed man up. Rdr2 has an amazing quote: "When I showed you kindness, you mistook that for weakness. Now I will show you strength, and you will mistake that for brutality". Women love to say man up. But, part of being a man is having great survival instincts. Which includes not giving af about someone that proves they don't belong to your tribe. So anyone that tells me to man up, in that way, they become outside my tribe. They are less to be than strangers.
/r/MensRights09/03/25 03:55 AM
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Let's also remember, it's extremely easy to inflate the assault on women, when they don't even count most cases from women against men as actual assault.
/r/MensRights07/03/25 05:28 PM
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Virtue signaling. Fembots have a script. The general script is: make an argument that sound empathetic and mature. But, in action, it is selfish and egotistical. It's all about claiming one thing, while actually performing the opposite, and justifying it along the way. It's why feelings should not be relied upon for major life decisions. They FEEL that taking advantage of men in every way is justified. They FEEL that it is only right for men to cry, because they are human. Then, when they cry, t…
/r/MensRights07/03/25 12:41 AM
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Gynocentric society. That's why.
/r/MensRights01/03/25 03:51 AM
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I'd argue that it needs to happen EVERY time. But, alas, it will not. It is refreshing to see though.
/r/MensRights28/02/25 03:33 AM
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The harsh reality is that we men set and enforce boundaries. When men are struggling because of women, it's either because they caused it themselves, or because another man has. So, we need to wake up, and wake others up to that fact. You can't force a horse to drink though. All you can do is tell them, and hope they see the harsh truth.
/r/MensRights28/02/25 02:20 AM
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Once I realized how women work, it has really opened my eyes to their ways. When women use insults, etc, it's all manipulation tactics. Not all women are toxic. The toxic ones though are either using manipulation tactics to cross boundaries, or they're rebranding their manipulation tactics, by dressing them up in different clothing. When the tactic doesn't have an effect, they switch tactics. This is no different. They're boldly declaring that they themselves are toxic. When i was younger, I'd g…
/r/MensRights28/02/25 02:09 AM
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Imagine walking to a table, with a chess board set up on it. The person on the other side is set up to win, checkmate, no matter what move the empty seat makes next. No matter what, it's guaranteed checkmate, if you sit down in that empty chair to play.... That's like dating modem women, in the modern world. Men are set to lose, no matter what we do. Unless the other person completely blunders their next turn, you lose. So, no thanks. If the option is to guaranteed lose, or keep walking alone, I…
/r/MensRights26/02/25 06:16 PM
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We have these problems precisely because men haven't been pushing back for near a century. Setting healthy boundaries means we have to enforce those boundaries. And of course they will fight that. Because they have it so good, they are afraid of losing it.
/r/MensRights16/02/25 07:52 PM
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I don't know if it's good or not. I just respond with: "Are you open to evidence that you're wrong? Or you looking for sympathy for your perpetual victim mentality?"
/r/MensRights17/01/25 06:16 PM
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That's because they're taught from birth to hate men.
/r/MensRights06/01/25 08:51 PM
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Of course. When the outcome doesn't align with their wants, they resort to manipulation tactics.
/r/MensRights06/01/25 08:36 PM
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Because men are the ones that enforce it. In every way, men are the ones that decide what privileges, who gets them, and how to enforce each infarction. It's not pointless. There are two major reasons things are the way they are: men have allowed it, and women plan on groups. If men got together in groups, and got in the same page, things would stabilize and get better for all.
/r/MensRights05/01/25 06:38 PM
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Honestly, I'd say no. I think we should block off a whole place, completely wild, undeveloped. Fence it in. Then send every woman that says "I don't need a man". Whether they thrive or starve is 100% on them. That would fix the situation a lot more than men only cities.
/r/MensRights05/01/25 04:16 PM
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That's just it. We don't have to really like that to be heard. Stop getting high paying jobs. Stop dating all together. Stop volunteering to join military. Stop paying for OF. Starve the system, and see how fast they run to ask what we want. Women must rally, because men are doing all the infrastructure work.
/r/MensRights07/12/24 12:28 PM
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Because women complain about it. Men don't. So, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Even if it's the broken one. That's how society works in general. Groups will keep pushing boundaries, until people stand up and push back. Men haven't pushed back for decades... so, women keep pushing. Therefore, courts keep pushing.
/r/MensRights07/12/24 02:26 AM
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And you are forgetting, exonerated doesn't mean the women are guilty of false allegations. Just means that there was insufficient proof of the case to be believed enough for conviction. The best I think we can do is to implement some kind of slander case punishment. Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way to restore reputation from such a thing. But if we all shift our mindset, then it's far less likely to be tarnished like that in the first place. As a society, we are gynocentric. That's …
/r/MensRights03/12/24 10:08 AM
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The problem is that this would require so much proof, that it would only catch a very small number. So small in fact, that it might as well be considered negligible. All women would have to do is just not leave a digital trail of admitting they did so maliciously. That's why public opinion needs to change, with regards to the original ruling. We need to hold law enforcement, and court systems to the standard already set. Currently, men are guilty until proven innocent. When it should be the othe…
/r/MensRights03/12/24 09:53 AM
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Or... hear me out... we should just stick to the rule we already have, instead of blatantly disregarding it... innocent until proven guilty.
/r/MensRights03/12/24 01:56 AM
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You literally said you hate being born a man. Having an entire movement directed at demonizing masculinity, and you don't think it's evil? Yeah OK. Enjoy your misery then, since you like denial that much.
/r/MensRights30/11/24 11:22 PM
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Nah you need to learn that's exactly why they are the ones in the wrong. Love yourself. The more you love yourself, the more you'll see how evil the others are for calling what you naturally are as evil.
/r/MensRights30/11/24 11:00 PM
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I used to think it was just a mental health problem. Until I realized it has everything to do with men being shat on for decades, with society (mostly women) ignoring, degrading, etc men at every turn. It's only now that they seem to care. Ironically, only after huge signs have begun to show. Men remaining single on purpose, men going to other countries for companionship. Men choosing not to have children (population decline is actually really bad for society as a whole). Men choosing not to wor…
/r/MensRights29/11/24 09:22 PM
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Bingo bango
/r/MensRights19/11/24 10:09 PM
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Men are not made to be enslaved to fight and die in wars. Strawman fallacy. I tried to argue against this on my other responses. Hoping you'd see, through context, that I didn't see it that way. Instead you double down and argue against what I'm not even arguing. In light of this, you aren't discussing in good faith. So, I'll stop discussions with you, as you are more interested in responding to things I never said, rather than discussing with my actual words. Have a good day.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 10:58 PM
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With that, I agree totally.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 09:21 PM
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Spoken like someone who has never been to war. The only way you'd believe lifting a gun is the only need in a war, is if you've never left the safety of what was fought for you to have. Which just goes to prove my point of you having no idea what was done for you. Which is fine. But it also shows you fall into the same trap feminists do. You truly believe they are just as capable as men to wage war.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 09:16 PM
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Before the last few decades, they did. Which already proves your point wrong. It's not enslaving if we sign up for it. It's like when feminism claims it's enslaving them to become mothers and to do housework. In any natural state, that's the nature of how we are. Not enslavement. But the natural state. If you don't agree, then you also don't truly understand the real sacrifices, and true purpose of men in our species. Women need to be conscripted Perhaps in the modern age, but only to equalize, …
/r/MensRights11/11/24 08:33 PM
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The harsh truth is that war is a necessary ugly of life. It isn't sexist, because nature designed us for it. For better and for worse. The issue is that modern women refuse to acknowledge the sacrifice, and therefore don't appreciate it. Their lack of understanding it (by understanding and valuing masculinity) leads to it all being severely diminished in value overall.
/r/MensRights11/11/24 08:06 PM
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Nationwide, mandatory [paternity] testing. Sorry... but the distinction is important for the government lol
/r/MensRights08/11/24 10:46 PM
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Human nature. Children, under the age of 8, tend to believe anything their parents tell them. Or any outside authority figure really, but especially their parents. Before that are, they do not have the ability to analyze before believing what they're told. Feminism has been going on for a couple centuries at this point. But the last few decades they've really ramped up the propaganda and rhetoric. Tv, movies, radio, then the internet came out. When is the last time you've seen any commercials, t…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 06:51 PM
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The problem is that you're arguing something that the post didn't even mention. It's a strawman fallacy, that doesn't even apply to the conversation topic. Stay on topic, and stop trying to insinuate I'm making an argument i never even mentioned, let alone took any side in.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 05:06 PM
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The biggest problem i have with your response is that you're using anecdotal (assuming they were actually raped, as many falsely accuse or claim it to begin with. But we'll assume you are correct), to insight emotional response, into thinking your argument is valid. Meanwhile, your argument isn't even responding to anything the original post mentioned, nor is it responding to anything I said. You might as well have brought up global warming, for all it applies.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 04:25 PM
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"It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they have been fooled" mark twain Social polarization, from years of propaganda and rhetoric. It starts when they are children, they are indoctrinated into the beliefs. Children automatically believe what they are told, until they are old enough to think for themselves. But by then, they've already been fooled. Meanwhile, men don't correct them. So they continue through their lives, truly believing they were taught correctly. Once in that…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 09:13 AM
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The reality is that they will certainly have sex, with men that they don't plan on having relationships with. Sneaky links. Which will absolutely only hurt themselves, and their cause. It's been the same thing this whole time, just faster down the path of self deprecation. Just like feminism as a whole. They think they're empowered by sleeping around. Which only rewards Chad's and Tyrone's behaviors. Which only forces all men to be celibate, or become like them. Which leads to men not wanting lo…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 09:03 AM
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You can't sit here and claim women do no wrong, when there are so many that have been wronged by women. And you can't sit here and claim all men would be a part of your painful experiences. You have generalized your pain, cultivated it into hatred, and blame all men for it. And ignore the pain that women cause men daily. In no way am I minimizing your experiences. But you make claims that just aren't true about women. You say your pain matters. Ok. Yes it does. But that doesn't give you the righ…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 04:18 AM
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You clearly haven't been on social media... at all, in the last 10 years. Where women openly laugh at, ridicule, and shame men for the very things you say only men do to other men. Literally all of those things, have videos where women openly admit to those things, or wanting to outright. Tyrant: someone who uses power in a cruel and unfair way. Women: use courts, police forces, etc, to subdue men, even when they themselves are the abusers. Use the same systems to force the kid to live with them…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 03:53 AM
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Lol be careful of tyrannical, hateful, toxic, gembots... ok cool. I already am avoiding them. They're easy to spot. Just look for nature's symbol for danger: bright colors (dyed hair), and rattles. Fr though... Men are already avoiding them. So them avoiding us is kind of comical. Men are already going over seas, in record numbers, for foreign women. Women are already having crying, toddler style, meltdowns, all over social media, because men are avoiding them. Women are already confused why men…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 02:09 AM
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Tyrants and bullies push as far as the crowds let themselves be pushed. Men used to be considered stronger, because men used to refuse to be pushed once the first attempt was made. Now days, men get pushed on the edge of the cliff to keto the peace, until enough fall off, that they see how serious the pushing really is. That's the harsh reality. As long as we men allow it, they will keep pushing us. For decades, we've watched and laughed, right along with them, during shows and movies that portr…
/r/MensRights07/11/24 01:46 AM
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Same here in the states. It'll degrade to the point that things will go back to survival mode. In this, women are not equipped for functioning consistently. Which will fall on men to do so. Then the long struggle back up will begin.
/r/MensRights30/10/24 11:56 AM
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I think you underestimate the power men truly have, and will always have. Men have ALL the infrastructure jobs, and women refuse to take them. No matter how many programs and preferences there will be for hiring women, women just refuse to do them. That alone puts all the power towards men. Men will also always be the enforcers of authority. No authority is ever given, without the consent of men, because men are the ones that ultimately enforce it. "Never bite the hands that feed you." Screw ove…
/r/MensRights29/10/24 10:48 PM
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Men care more about respect than love. Should we? Maybe. But, respect actions should take higher priority.
/r/MensRights28/10/24 09:14 PM
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didn't give u a link but that's general information u can find on the internet on gov sites And you can literally Google kamala's contradicting statements online. Live videos and all. So you clearly are only interested in looking up information to confirm your bias, and have zero interest in anything truth. You claiming my behavior is cringe, for doing exactly what you're doing, is quite funny though.
/r/MensRights28/10/24 04:06 PM
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Yeah that's where you're not arguing in good faith. If you expect evidence, then you must give it. You started it, so the burden of proof is on you. I gave u evidence that No you didn't. You just stated it, as if it were fact, with zero evidence. If your word works as evidence, then so does mine.
/r/MensRights28/10/24 01:00 PM
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You start by saying Trump is far worse, and give ZERO evidence for this. Yet you demand i give evidence? Lol
/r/MensRights28/10/24 02:14 AM
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Lol I think it's funny that you truly believe that. She has been changing her speeches every few months, each with completely different policy ideals. Each contradicting the others she's made. That's not opinion, that's fact. For the last couple years, that's all she's been doing, is releasing contradicting statements, on what she'd do. Meanwhile, what exactly has she done with the position she's had thus far? Nothing. So for you to say she has great ideas, just shows that you somehow are blind …
/r/MensRights27/10/24 01:21 PM
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At this point it isn't who's for men... it's who will not make things worse. Sadly, that same mentality goes for nearly every issue plaguing this country.
/r/MensRights26/10/24 07:25 PM
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Of course. That's like saying a dog barked. Because what you described is exactly what feminists do. Your job, that nature has instilled in you, is to want to protect your wife. You were doing your instinctual duty by trying to do so.
/r/MensRights23/10/24 11:23 PM
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Distance whenever possible. And buy a recorder. They can sell for pretty cheap, and can store lots of time of audio. If nothing happens, delete the audio recorded. If something sus happens that time, then save on another drive somewhere. Get a notebook, write down time and date, with details of sus stuff that may happen. If anything legal comes up, hand your attorney the audio files, and the notebook. If you start to worry about her safety, or yours, then tell the manager or supervisor, record i…
/r/MensRights23/10/24 01:45 AM
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Which is actually great news. I used to really be embarrassed when I thought of that being the alternative for many. But now i think it's infinitely better than simping to these waste of spaces online.
/r/MensRights23/10/24 01:40 AM
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Problem is, men still believe marriage is the way to go. Still agree to being screwed over for life.
/r/MensRights22/10/24 11:54 PM
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I'm the stages of life, the first 8 years are the most crucial. And those are the stages that children blindly accept what they are told, as truth. If television says, matter of fact, that men are trash, that's what they'll believe. I don't think feminism the only root cause to the whole dynamic. But I think it's a major factor. How many decades now have groups been shamed on main stream TV? Movies? Shows? Etc. What once started as jokes, became accepted as fact, no matter how outlandish. The ot…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 03:12 AM
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You're putting the carriage before the horse. Societal normalization, via polarization, has led to it being seen in dating apps, and dating culture in general. Don't believe me? Look up old shows and movies. Where father figures are portrayed to be complete idiots. Old commercials too. It's been OK to be outright hateful towards men for decades. I dare say 50 years. It's slowly but surely crept into every facet of our society. To where now it's expected. And it'll continue, until men stand up fo…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 12:39 AM
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Mums get accused of emotional incest whilst the dads get praised and other stuff like "that's his little princess" Even if that is the case, it's not widespread enough to even represent a majority, or even a large number. I'd be willing to bet that might have been a single comment. Which does not represent a large enough number to even conclude that being the case. But yes, i do think there are unhealthy attachments between mothers and sons. Yet, I wonder what that has to do with truly protectin…
/r/MensRights22/10/24 12:32 AM
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Totally agree, except for the part about mothers protecting their kids. I've never, not once, seen or heard of a woman being ridiculed for that. I've only seen praising.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 10:58 PM
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It's in real life too. How many men do that in real life?? Pulling out their gun, or threatening any suitor. Yet they're the same ones that can their daughters princess. Treat them like one, except zero responsibility. Zero accountability. Then they wonder why their daughters grow up to be with one extreme or the other, with complete jerks, or way too feminine men. Because they either rebel, by going to the assholes, or choose someone that will treat them like their dad did... pushovers. Any cen…
/r/MensRights21/10/24 10:02 PM
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When, in their whole lives, are they ever humbled? Most fathers treat them like forever toddlers, not doing what fathers should do. Mothers do the same, often reinforcing the bad behaviors. When they get old enough to date, the guys are just telling them what they want to hear, rather than the truth. Society as a whole backs up their delusions, and gives them a safety net for literally every bad decision they could make in life. So, where exactly are they humbled?
/r/MensRights21/10/24 04:04 AM
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Ask a feminist what the definition of feminism is. Ask them what their purpose is. Nearly every one of them says it's for equality. How do things become equal if they don't stand up against inequality?
/r/MensRights19/10/24 11:40 PM
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For the exact reason that women "attack" men for disagreeing with them. Shame, insult, guilt, blame. It's all manipulation tactics. When they can't convince through normal arguments, they resort to manipulation tactics. If not to convince again, then to avoid accountability.
/r/MensRights14/10/24 08:16 PM
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Yeah. I call her my ex mom.
/r/MensRights01/10/24 01:57 AM
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It can be a good thing. But the stock market proves that a downturn doesn't mean it's declining for good. The key is to just continue on, as if it's still in full effect. Let the chips fall where they may.
/r/MensRights28/09/24 05:59 AM
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I'm glad it's happening to rich people. If it happens enough, best believe they'll be putting some major cash flow towards ending the bs.
/r/MensRights27/09/24 02:13 AM
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You just said what I said about the media, just with different words. And yet you're right and I'm wrong? You don't mean offense, for saying what I'm saying? Lol "make it make sense" as they say My only point was two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the media is doing it, doesn't make it worse for us to. But hey, "disagree" all you want.
/r/MensRights12/09/24 10:52 AM
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Hmm fair point actually. Not sure. It could've been before. Which would make sense in retrospect. It's the same reason I deleted TikTok. But TikTok was way more recent.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 05:37 PM
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At least on Twitter there is less censorship unlike certain websites. Yeah not true at all lol I deleted Twitter, after they censored The woman posted how men are terrible. I simply said that not all men are terrible, just like not all women are terrible. Her comment didn't get censored, mine got deleted, because my comment apparently was hateful lol That's when I knew it wasn't a safe space for men at all. It's one big giant echo chamber for women hating on men.
/r/MensRights09/09/24 03:42 PM
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I agree completely. It shows where their priorities are. And yet, we men keep rolling over to acquiesce to their every demand.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 06:57 PM
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When though? That's my very point. When did they ever stand for equality? At no point in history did they stand for equal. It's always about power for them. Has never been about equality
/r/MensRights06/09/24 06:55 PM
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Feminists themselves claim equality is their goal. Men aren't complaining about it. They're pointing out the hypocrisy of feminists. All those points you just mentioned are exactly that, proof that feminists do not care about equality. If feminists were truly about equality, they'd advocate for those very things, as they are ways that men are being taken advantage of in our current world.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 06:54 PM
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Yup lol it's incredibly obvious they don't care. The movement has been around for roughly 200 years now. NOT ONCE have they advocated for men, in any way. That should tell you all you need to know really
/r/MensRights06/09/24 04:58 AM
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This is a prime example of evidence that this group is grounded in the just and righteous. The comments show that we don't want rights and privileges, just for the sake of having them. The responsibility is heavy. And that means we must admit when things go too far, in the wrong direction. The evidence points to that man being quite abusive. So it's not really good news that he's with his kids. Maybe under strict visitation restrictions, but he should absolutely not be around them if he's abusin…
/r/MensRights02/09/24 12:53 PM
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The problem with that explanation is that it is erroneous. It doesn't properly define what could be considered, and what couldn't. They can change what is considered, at whim. Then call it terrorism motivated. Sounds awfully like being equated with. If you disagree with women, they can call you a misogynist. Thereby categorizing you with the ideologies. It's completely up to their interpretation of it, and therefore can be changed as they interpret it that way. And boom, you're in prison for ter…
/r/MensRights01/09/24 03:08 AM
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It's good in the right direction. I'm actually surprised. Some of the recent changes in law over in UK have been quite negative for men (like how they are making it to where anything considered misogyny is equivalent to terrorism. They claim disagreeing with them is misogyny. So it's super scary). But yeah this is a good change.
/r/MensRights01/09/24 12:02 AM
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Everyone lies. Men included. The problem is that the "justice" system backs up women when they do lie about it. Justice is supposed to be blind. Yet it's incredibly biased for women. Here's the catch though... it's because men haven't did up for true justice for a while now. We've allowed the roots of corruption to take hold. We've allowed the system to sway in favor of women, at the cost of men.
/r/MensRights31/08/24 11:50 PM
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No. But she did file a report on me for a reason she made up. I didn't feel I deserved to sit down and let her verbally abuse me. So I left the room. She followed after me, stormed up to the door yelling, then started hitting the door so hard it nearly broke it. It was a cheap door, but still. I was the only one working, and i barely made enough to break even on bills. So breaking the door might have been more than we could afford. So I left the room. She got in my face, and started yelling agai…
/r/MensRights31/08/24 04:05 PM
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Maybe. But where would a man find a mentor, if they don't already have one? That's like saying everyone needs a million dollars. If you aren't offering, isn't it a moot point? As for therapy: most of it is completely geared towards women (as you said, for feeling better). But when you go into it, it's your responsibility to tell them what you're wanting or if it. If you're a man, chances are you should tell them you want solution based therapy. Otherwise they will default towards therapy for wom…
/r/MensRights29/08/24 04:36 PM
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The original feminist movement was in the early 1800s, and came from really rich people. That was the goal the whole time. Current oligarchs are funding it, just as they have been.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 09:17 PM
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Original feminism was created to do that. It has just taken this long for it to start crumbling the infrastructure of the nuclear family.
/r/MensRights28/08/24 09:14 PM
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I agree. Just like the countless millions of men that are not speaking up to disagree with them.
/r/MensRights25/08/24 04:37 PM
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Why is sexism towards men so normalized To directly answer the question: I think it's because women are greatly susceptible to social polarization. Nature has made them wonderful partners, under certain circumstances (survival). The downside is current times have drastically removed them from that natural order. It used to be, both parents present at least. Therefore, a natural teaching of social rational beliefs. A balance between masculine and feminine. But feminism has pretty much destroyed t…
/r/MensRights25/08/24 05:10 AM
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We are in a nose dive into misandry right now. So there is no response but walk away. Our only recourse is to change things behind laws and go from there. If things don't change that way, that is the peaceful way, then it will lead to violence. Not because we want it to. But because that's the natural equilibrium response for open hatred towards a group. The line will only move so far in one direction, before an extreme reaction. Don't like the extreme change? Then they shouldn't push the entire…
/r/MensRights25/08/24 04:42 AM
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They represent whoever they are moved to represent. Men are silent. Women are loud. Women are pushing the government to change things. Men are rolling over and letting it happen. Can't expect them to represent a group that doesn't speak up for itself. Men are the ones that are supposed to set boundaries. Otherwise, the shelter crumbles. That's been our place since the start of our species. Now is no difference
/r/MensRights19/08/24 05:14 AM
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Yeah and who enforces rules to be followed? At the end of the day, we men are the ones to blame for allowing it. Women are like children in that way. They'll keep going, until acted upon by a strong enough boundary. Then and only then will they stop. It doesn't matter how absurd their actions get, they keep going. Doesn't matter how detrimental their actions are to society, they'll keep going. Doesn't matter how many people they hurt, no matter how much they cost themselves, or how many things t…
/r/MensRights19/08/24 02:59 AM
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The entire purpose of men is to set appropriate boundaries for societal norms. We are the ones that allow our own treatment. We are the ones that allow injustices, through inaction or direct approval. It is our responsibility to set those boundaries. So if you don't like the injustice, how are you going to contribute to the change in the right direction? I'll ask myself the same question.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 08:12 PM
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Lol I'm totally confused by your response. Have no idea what your intent was, or what you were going for. It just looked like one of those cheesy late night sales channel ads.
/r/MensRights18/08/24 04:00 PM
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Well that's the weirdest shopping network ad I've seen
/r/MensRights18/08/24 04:18 AM
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Dunno...I haven't spent more than this moment right here, in my whole life, worrying about it. So not exactly a whole lot of meaning. But to be fair, I'd say it likely means far greater than what I compared it to lol it was just the first random thing that came to mind
/r/MensRights18/08/24 03:20 AM
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I used to, and now know why. Now my eyes are really open about things that are going on. So, I don't feel bad at all. I do what is right, as much as I can So, I hold myself accountable to those moral standards. But, otherwise I'll ignore any and all critics. If they aren't important enough in my life to trust, then their opinion matters as much as my lost foreskin.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 04:57 PM
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Yeah my immediate question is always "like what?" They usually bring up the same couple. And those are easily debunked, assuming they want to be questioned.
/r/MensRights15/08/24 03:07 AM
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First off, it's up to them to provide proof of their claims. That's what burden of proof means. That said, there are several government sites, that debunk every claim that fembots make. I'm not going to do the report for you. But, I'll say this: - look up the percentage of divorces initiated by women, and the reasons they use for initiating - look up the percentage of divorces that end with the men giving up half their stuff. - look up the number of cases where the men are forced to pay child su…
/r/MensRights14/08/24 08:18 PM
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It's the same question, 9/10 times on this subreddit. Just with different wording. It's manipulation tactics. When women say things, that make you immediately think "how in the world is that close to true", chances are that it's some form of manipulation tactic from them. It's to manipulate you to believe them. Look up manipulation tactics. It's all there. Shaming, blaming, accusing, gaslighting, etc. All to take the focus away from their words or actions. To put the focus onto you, and how men …
/r/MensRights08/08/24 03:38 AM
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Exactly lol If I can be forced to pay, then they should be mandated to sleep with me still right?? Only fair
/r/MensRights07/08/24 03:50 PM
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How does that disprove my point? How many of those are in current wars? How many of those have been in conflicts in the last 100 years? How many of those have been in higher amounts of conflicts, than more monogamous societies? There is a direct correlation between polygamy and war. There is a direct correlation between number of men not procreating, and war in that region. And often, the victors are those that have closer to the monogamous way of life. What in your data goes against these claim…
/r/MensRights07/08/24 05:18 AM
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I've been homeless. Before that, I was in an abusive relationship. I'd much rather be homeless again, than in another abusive relationship. That said, many women that say they are victims, are the perpetrators. It's like a logical flow chart. Many pick men with abusive tendencies ("bad boys"). Those at the same women that believe if the man isn't abusive, then it means they don't love them. One woman I dated said since I refused to hit her then it meant I didn't love her. Like...wth. and yet tha…
/r/MensRights07/08/24 05:10 AM
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Yes, which destroys the family unit, which gives men little/no reason to fight against tyranny. So working as intended. Not true at all. History proves that false. The fewer men that have families, the more violent they become. The more men are oppressed and have no partners, the more they buck the system in place. This is a huge reason why polygamy is so rare. Birth rates are near equal, between men and women. So, allowing polygamy means there will be far more men that have no partners. Over ti…
/r/MensRights07/08/24 03:17 AM
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I completely agree. My argument was to simply show just how unjust our current system is, by pointing out that even if he's 0% at fault, and she is 100% at fault, and she leaves, she can still get half (which isn't even accurate. As it's far more than half most times). We're using rules and regulations, from a time that is long gone. This isn't 200 years ago. Women and children aren't going to get taken (killed and or worse), or starve to death, if they don't have a man taking care of them. Wome…
/r/MensRights07/08/24 03:12 AM
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Yeah I think it's absolute garbage. My ex would never had made decent money. If she never met me, she would've been that way, for life. But, somehow, she tried getting alimony after 2 years of being together. She tried getting half of what I'd saved up before we had even met. Luckily my attorney put a stop to all that. But it's crazy what women think they are entitled to, and even crazier what courts will back them up with. In one point, they'll say they can have all the opportunities to make th…
/r/MensRights07/08/24 02:42 AM
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You're making all kinds of idiotic strawman fallacy attempts, which shows how little you care about making any constructive arguments. It's just about bullying to you. Never about actually standing up for what's right.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 06:09 PM
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So you avoiding the question means you know you can't stand up to that argument. Got it. Brought a knife to a gun fight, didn't you lol
/r/MensRights04/08/24 06:00 PM
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Ok cool. So you believe that abortion should be illegal?
/r/MensRights04/08/24 05:22 PM
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Spoiler: it's never been about being logical. It's about them trying to manipulate men into doing what they (the fembots) want. If those don't work, they will switch to another wording, but use the same tactic. It's all they have. They can't physically force us to. They have to resort to mental gymnastics, to try and manipulate us to.
/r/MensRights01/08/24 02:43 PM
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Throughout all of history, having two people makes paying living expenses easier. Walking in a park is basically free (minus paying, or something like that). If love and finding a lifetime partner is the goal, then setting the expectation of either paying rent seems unreasonable. The question should always be (assuming you're intent is indeed to be with them forever) "how are we going to make it happen".
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:20 AM
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No. Not until people get their heads out of their respective asses.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:40 AM
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The problem isn't being able to date. It's paying for exaggerated expectations that is the problem.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:40 AM
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Finally
/r/PussyPassDenied25/07/24 04:34 PM
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Yeah it's completely messed up. Women can do with their body what they want. Awesome. But men are forced to work for the next 18 years, to gone that money for kids the system won't let them see. Women openly lie about the men, and the system believes them. Men say it isn't true, and the system disregards them. women rights to their own bodies So yeah, doesn't apply to men. how about men’s rights to their own money Screw that. It's about their rights to their own body.
/r/MensRights24/07/24 10:30 AM
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Men, you know you're treated as the disposable sex, so if you're not getting a good deal, consider just walking away and not investing in a system that thinks nothing of your well being And what's crazy... Men gladly do so, if only they are appreciated for it. If we've got a special woman in our life, that deeply appreciates the sacrifices we make for them, we will gladly do whatever terrible job awaits us. But the moment we aren't appreciated for our sacrifices, that's the moment we buck whatev…
/r/MensRights22/07/24 09:47 PM
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As my uncle once said (he's a farmer, so he's always got those weird farm sayings...) "You're riding the horse you say you don't need". It's always funny to me when women say that kinda crap. Because they're riding that horse, yet say they don't need it. Every bit of their existence, minus like a couple things, were all engineered, built, shipped, mined, assembled, etc by men. Many women these days also take alimony, child support, and keep the house and cars, while saying they don't need men. M…
/r/MensRights22/07/24 01:56 AM
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Yup. Don't worry though. They'll spend on stupid stuff, which is owned by other men. All it's doing is transferring the wealth to the already wealthy, under the proxy of women. Trick the women to leave. Make laws to give them over half of the man's assets. Trick the women to spend on stupid stuff (cars, purses, clothes, they don't need). Those things are owned by men. Those men become richer. The poor get poorer from this process, because the mass of screwed over men don't stand up and change th…
/r/MensRights16/07/24 04:40 PM
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shame insult guilt need to be right Those are the go to tactics for manipulative women. When women know they can't win the argument, they resort to these tactics. It's all a tactic, to get you to focus away from their accountability. That's all it is.
/r/MensRights16/07/24 12:57 PM
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Ok but we'll see her back on the streets after a few years. Yeah she gets pass denied now. But she'll still get way less time, than if it were a man doing the same atrocities
/r/PussyPassDenied12/07/24 12:48 PM
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Yup lol In this case though, I think the change would be worse. The last time someone was convicted, for not doing so, was 1986. So, by in large they don't enforce the rule. I do think that the whole thing is a joke now. Men were forced to agree to sign up for selective service once they turned 18. I'm exchange, they got the right to vote. Then they turned around and gave the voting to women, with zero cost. Now they're giving it to illegal immigrants, with extra benefits, without any cost. What…
/r/MensRights11/07/24 11:41 PM
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Yeah it's not automatic. But you could face jail time if you don't... so.. is that better?
/r/MensRights11/07/24 11:15 PM
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In the modern countries, absolutely. But if you believe that for the natural state of both, then I totally disagree. Mutualism is the natural state. Commensalism is the first sign of trouble. The last several decades though have been largely parasitic.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 10:00 PM
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Watch the news. Women are openly insulting men on live television. Go anywhere in public. Women are openly disrespectful and ignomineous towards men in general. They have practical jokes, that show men getting beat by women, and everyone laughs. Other way around, and people crowd around to stop the man. Women leave marriages because they can't sleep around, or because they are frustrated. They kill their own children. If the question is if some women would, then sure. But most wouldn't.
/r/MensRights11/07/24 09:22 PM
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That was a hard lesson I had to learn. Never give control of finances. Unless you can trust her with money (extremely rare). I used to be in that exact position. I'd work, then she'd have control of finances. It was too convenient, to assume she had free time and therefore could be responsible for it. Instead, I learned that she had free reign to do whatever she wanted. And what she wanted was to be irresponsible. When I had control, we had some debt. But it was manageable. Car loan and school l…
/r/MensRights11/07/24 02:12 PM
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It has always been a pendulum. Balanced of power swing one way. When it gets too far, people rush to the other side. Then the pendulum slows in that one direction, eventually heading the other way. And so on. Right now, this group is growing, because the balances of power have become extreme, at the cost of most men. And so, now more men are rushing to fight that. The point I'm trying to make is, indeed in current times it's against most men. But this group is growing. With our without this dire…
/r/MensRights10/07/24 03:37 AM
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It's very simple. Women HATE accountability. If any argument shows they're full of bs, they will get angry. They will insult and shame. That's how most women are. Most modern women are so incredibly indoctrinated, into the feminist propaganda, that any counter argument is seen as a direct attack. Indeed: it's easier to fool people than convince them they've been fooled. - Mark twain
/r/MensRights09/07/24 06:49 PM
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Definitely wish all could be aware of it. I just mean that it's the same stuff, different attempt. Every man needs to be aware of the tactic, and not be controlled by it.
/r/MensRights03/07/24 01:31 PM
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Others just don't get it. It's the same tactic. I don't think they truly get that is what women do. Whatever norm that women have, that's the norm we men have made for them. Now, women are flipping out, because we men have gotten sick of giving everything and getting nothing. So, women are resorting to the only tactics they know. Shame, insult, guilt. When the wording doesn't trigger a response, they'll change the wording. But it's still the same thing. They're fighting us the only way they can.…
/r/MensRights02/07/24 03:13 PM
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It's not new though. Shame insult guilt. It's always the same. If an insult isn't working, they'll change the insult. But it's always the same tactic. Why? Because they can't force us, they must resort to manipulation tactics. If they can't convince us to change, then they know it's our way or nothing.
/r/MensRights02/07/24 02:18 PM
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How? When the courts are on their side, how do men protect their kids from women like that?
/r/MensRights29/06/24 02:28 AM
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There are phases in every person's life. The first 7 or so years is the extremely impressionable age range. Whatever their caretakers teach them, they'll accept as fact. If they see that a certain behavior is acceptable, then they will expect it. From partners or from themselves. It takes a lot of work to unlearn those things, and then to learn the correct. And taking unbiased accountability, for your own emotions and actions, is rare. When parents avoid conflict, avoid having tough conversation…
/r/MensRights28/06/24 12:48 AM
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Extremely underrated comment. Fathers and mothers have both been contributing to that very problem, for decades. Roll over, whatever the daughter does, make her feel valid, but zero correction. Zero accountability. So, what else is expected when they hit the rest of society...
/r/MensRights28/06/24 12:44 AM
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Any rebuttals Why rebuttal at all? Best way to beat their game is to walk away, and leave them to their self made consequences. Let them hate. Let them tell all the lies they want.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 04:03 PM
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First, I'm no expert on the Bible. So, take my thoughts as a grain of salt. There are many points with this story. samson paid little care of who he chose to sleep with. He was living in lust, believing none could defeat him. He chose Delilah, his mistress. She continued to ask him what his weakness was. Each time, he told her, and she attempted to betray him. He continues to allow her in his bed, in his safe place. Nearest to him. Multiple times, she tries to betray him. Until finally, he gives…
/r/MensRights21/06/24 06:29 PM
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It doesn't explicitly state that men aren't to be. Nor does it right out say they should be. On the other hand, it mentions many times of how important it is for men to be vulnerable (2 corinth 12:9 for example). How important it is for men to be intimate with their wife (what is intimacy, without knowing weaknesses along with strengths? How can one know another's weaknesses without them opening up to them?). How good wives are to be supportive, helpful, and nurturing. How important it is for a …
/r/MensRights20/06/24 10:39 PM
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It's kind of irrelevant at this point. The entire agreement, that we men have made with the government, was broken by the government. We were given the right to vote, in exchange we had to sign up for the possible draft. They're giving illegal citizens the ability to vote now. Women have never had to sign up for the draft to be able to vote. Further, they keep openly finding evidence that the voting has been rigged in multiple elections. So, it's kind of a moot point, to limit anything. It doesn…
/r/MensRights20/06/24 03:42 PM
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Where does it say that
/r/MensRights20/06/24 02:41 PM
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It is evidence to me, that we live in a modern world of gynocentric beliefs. It's eerily similar to tyranny. The more you pay attention, the more similar it seems. Any time a man is a victim, feminists say it's other men's fault. Any time it could be a woman as the perp, it is diminished, disregarded, ignored, etc. Swept under the rug as how it's not possible. They socially polarize other women to believe their propaganda and rhetoric, force feeding it until they agree. Constantly changing the n…
/r/MensRights14/06/24 04:12 PM
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Oh no. Do not misunderstand me. I'm not defending the overgeneralization that feminists have been exercising. I'm simply stating that we shouldn't fall into the same trap they have. If we are on moral high ground, then we should be right. Regardless how wrong the other side is. Their broken moral compass should not dictate where ours points. That's my only point. Not to defend them.
/r/MensRights14/06/24 02:39 PM
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Careful not to over generalize. I'm glad it's becoming more exposed. But, the media is great about hiding, and great about only exposing information to illicit the responses they want. When floods of information is suddenly seen, it's important to caution against basing ourselves towards any over generalizations.
/r/MensRights14/06/24 02:35 PM
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They were working well before the 1920s: https://equitablegrowth.org/womens-history-month-u-s-womens-labor-force-participation/#:~:text=Gradually%2C%20beginning%20after%201890%20and,as%20a%20U%2Dshaped%20curve. The source for college: https://www.bestcolleges.com/blog/history-womens-colleges/#:~:text=Before%20the%20rise%20of%20women's,women's%20college%20in%20the%20world. Women were also allowed to vote in certain states, in the 1800s (property owners, etc): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timel…
/r/MensRights14/06/24 01:44 AM
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Women have been working outside the home since the 1800s. They've had that choice long before feminism movement. Georgia opened a women's college in 1830s. long before feminism started. Women didn't want the right to vote. Because for men to get it, they had to sign up for the draft. And women didn't want to sign up for the draft. So, men made it to where they could vote, without signing up for draft. But originally, women were totally against it. Meanwhile, where was the feminism outcry over ho…
/r/MensRights13/06/24 12:16 PM
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The man's body belongs to him. Which was the original argument you made, their body their choice. Money gained by their labor. If they don't work, they still owe money. In many cases, men are charged money they can't even afford. Yet they can still go to prison for not paying. Once again, their labor, from their bodies. Being forced upon them because of a decision someone else made for them, while giving them zero say.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 08:19 PM
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I made the arguments, because they're all in the same argument. Checkmate (it's a metaphor) isn't about two pieces or one move. It's about a series of events and decisions, an entire set up. Same is applied to the current rights of men. Which is the entire point of the post. It isn't one fracture of a right. It's a culmination of conditions, which leads to the overall problem. It's all about balance. And right now, men are right out screwed over.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 08:15 PM
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That's what many men are pointing out these days. The feminism movement isn't about equally. It's about control and power. Tyrannical movement. The current system is gynocentric. And it's backed by very wealthy people. Has been since the beginning of the feminist movement. Imagine billions going into tyranny. Well, it's not imaginary.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 07:42 PM
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Great point. Also, on that note: there have been women that gave up kids like that, despite the father wanting custody. Yet, the law backed up the women. Meaning, the father had zero choice about losing that child to the foster system.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 07:25 PM
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But abortion is legal because, well, it's their body. Ok, cool. Then, with that same logic, if women are allowed to be the sole decision makers with their bodies, then why can't men decide against forced servitude for 18-21 years? It's their bodies, right? Women openly admit online to committing what should be paternity fraud (where they say the father is one guy, but it ends up being another entirely). They have zero repercussions from that. Men go to prison for that. Women openly admit to usin…
/r/MensRights12/06/24 07:01 PM
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Yeah it's crazy... women freaked out over taking away abortions. They claim it's taking away their freedom to opt out of parenthood, yet it still leaves dozens of other options. Meanwhile, in the current law system, men have zero say in the matter. When we bring up our own lack of any option, women freak out and think it's some kind of joke.
/r/MensRights12/06/24 12:30 PM
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Masculinity is the culmination of 3 main categories: Protection, provision, and leadership. To protect, we must also protect ourselves, just as much as those closest to us. To provide, we must provide for ourselves, just as much as for those closest to us. And good leadership is about serving those we lead, and submitting to the expertise of the competent around us. Society forgets that masculinity built this modern world. It has made it safe enough for the weak and dumb to speak out, even at th…
/r/MensRights12/06/24 12:09 PM
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Wow. Well that's ONE way laws there are better than in Texas LOL I had to get my ex to fill out a form, and I filled out the same one, where we said all the details, to show I paid each time on time
/r/MensRights11/06/24 08:35 PM
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That's not how it is in the US, unfortunately. It should be. But it's not
/r/MensRights11/06/24 08:27 PM
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It's all a manipulation tactic, plain and simple. It's the go to for women. If they encounter any confrontation about any double standards, they revert to the good ol manipulation tactics. Shaming and blaming are their go to. It is an attempt to take attention away from their own actions, behaviors, or words.
/r/MensRights11/06/24 08:02 PM
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Therapy is allays a great option. Just let the therapist know you're looking for solution based help. Most therapy is based around helping women feel better. When they try the same methods for men, it just doesn't work. When I went, it just kept going around and around. Felt more like a feel good than anything. Finally, I told the therapist I was looking for solutions, not to feel better. Then they started giving real world possible solutions. Just be ready for that. It means it'll likely lead t…
/r/MensRights11/06/24 04:48 PM
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There's not a single rule that says women shouldn't lead. This hasn't been a patriarchy since it's beginning. Men led, but logic dictates it has little to do with them being men. It's about competency. The further we get from that, the more feminists are winning, the more issues pop up in society as a whole.
/r/MensRights28/05/24 11:57 PM
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Women do that with all men that have any dating issues. They just tailor out to the man they're talking to at the time. So, it sucks. But you aren't truly alone in this.
/r/MensRights27/05/24 06:59 PM
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That's just it.... only fools make assumptions that any study is true, just because it says so. But yeah, downvote me because I'm not as gullible as you lol I'm not even saying the findings are incorrect. I'm just stating there's missing info that is very important, in order to determine how reputable the studies were.
/r/MensRights23/05/24 12:58 AM
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nationally representative What exactly does that mean? How is it nationally reprentative? That still has zero substance. Stating it is doesn't make it so. That's why it's important for a source to state those things, in order to be reputable as a legitimate and believable source. Not stating these details shows big question marks, on the part of it being reputable. Anyone can ask their church (or book club, or strip club) to fill out the questions, then claim it's nationally representative. That…
/r/MensRights23/05/24 12:50 AM
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General sample is way too vague. It says nothing
/r/MensRights23/05/24 12:38 AM
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Sure... but WHERE? That's the main point, that I may have been bad at effectively getting across. 2000 random? Awesome sample size. 2000 couples right out of a church? Could be really biased
/r/MensRights23/05/24 12:37 AM
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Asking 2000 people is not a good sample size, for determining "most women" conclusions. Over 600 is statistically significant (in that it shows 95% confidence with 4% margin of error) My problem with it is that they don't mention how those were chosen. If they only went to a feminist rally, for example, that would greatly skew the results in one direction. Besides that, these surveys aren't proof. They are supporting evidence at best. And only such for what women are openly willing to divulge. I…
/r/MensRights23/05/24 12:30 AM
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I firmly believe there's no such thing as men's rights. There's just a set of agreements made by men. When the scale tips (too many men feel like they're being screwed over), then groups of men stand up to force a renegotiation of those rules. Women are just along for the ride. Whatever rules men allow women, that's what is allowed. We can stop this at any time, if enough of us make that call (stop sleeping around, stop being in relationships with women that have had more than a few partners, st…
/r/MensRights22/05/24 02:09 PM
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That is not a simple answer. we live in a gynocentric society. Dating apps only reflect that societal norm. dating apps are designed to play against the natural mating selection process between men and women. Women typically like men more once they get to know them. So, parading pictures in front of them only serves to support shallow matches, while eliminating the getting to know them factor. Meanwhile, men historically have higher chances of success by trying in person. Not online. Not where t…
/r/MensRights08/05/24 06:53 AM
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True. But no one is immune to boundaries set by a stronger force. Remember, fembots only get the power they are given. And that comes from men. If we all stood up today and said enough, it would be done and over with, right then
/r/MensRights02/05/24 12:14 AM
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I think it was about 10 years ago or so. It came from one question. When is the last time they stood up for men? And then I noticed the answer is never. When women do wrong, they rally in her corner. When they do wrong towards men, they rally in her favor. When the men are wronged by society, an entity, anything really, there's zero support for the men, from them especially. In 50 years of feminism, they've not ever once stood up against women taking advantage of men. Not once did up for men bei…
/r/MensRights01/05/24 12:18 AM
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I respectfully disagree. I think people try to over complicate what is quite simple. This isn't the first time things have swung in favor of women. And it won't be the last. Nature will take its course. We aren't playing some over complicated, insurmountable games. We're playing the same old game we've been playing since the beginning of our species. And men will end up back where we belong in the natural course of things. Just a matter of when and how. Men naturally will demand, with time (when…
/r/MensRights26/04/24 11:37 AM
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People are already starting to question why so many are walking away from marriage, and from dating all together. Sadly, you might be right, that more extreme measures are needed. I just don't think it's as far off as "but we won't"
/r/MensRights26/04/24 11:30 AM
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Yup. Imagine a speed dating scene. Where all the tables have women sitting at them, and on the table is a chess board with pieces. As you look, you see that each board is set up slightly different, but all of them have the next move as checkmate. You look more, and find that the board is positioned, such that anyone that sits in the empty spot, across from the woman, is set to move next. Then they move, and it's checkmate against anyone that sits there. Men are starting to see exactly this. Exce…
/r/MensRights26/04/24 12:14 AM
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The issue is that those women think they are all 10, so they refuse to "Settle"
/r/MensRights26/04/24 12:04 AM
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We should care. Caring means we are the ones in the right of it. If we can see both sides, and then the overall consequences, then we can be the ones to facilitate the necessary changes when the time comes. But, if we don't care, then we should not in any way have control over the needed changes afterwards (to correct the situation, in mitigating those consequences). People rebel against a system that only costs them, and does not benefit them. That's why men are rebelling currently. So, it's cr…
/r/MensRights22/04/24 10:36 AM
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So play them. One by one, get with them. Just not the one that called you gay. Then you won't have to say anything to defend yourself.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 08:00 PM
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What equality though? I mean everything they claim they got in equality, men were the ones that pushed for them to get it, without the downsides men had to take on for same privileges. Since the beginning, it was always about superiority. Name one time they've stood up for men? One example. That would be equality. It doesn't happen.
/r/MensRights21/04/24 02:06 AM
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It's like any dictatorship. They want ultimate power. Curve ball though. Them getting it means it will unravel society. It's like burning the whole town, to become mayor.
/r/MensRights18/04/24 04:24 AM
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There are a billion reasons why the current dating scene is trash for men. But it is what it is. Loyal men in the west are screwed. Find you a good woman. And hint, there at also bad women in other countries. Just gotta filter out.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 03:44 AM
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Men's responsibilities in nature are protector, provider, leader. The harsh reality is that one can't protect without the ability to be violent. The propensity towards violence is always a lurking presence in a man's psyche. The only thing ever keeping it in check is himself. But there are breaking points. Society, as a whole, removes the majority of the ones with little control over that side of themselves. The factor of excluding it to just the US is an unnecessary additive. It's all over the …
/r/MensRights03/04/24 10:31 PM
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culture is based around women and has no real benefit to men Absolutely true. So we’re forced to comply with these standards because feminists have convinced any less makes a man “dusty”. It's all a manipulation tactic, designed to keep men doing the same. The harsh fact is: nature made women have children, because otherwise they are not needed. We can make them useful, but we take the brunt of the dangerous and muscle survival tasks. We simply give them the stuff to make our life easier, that t…
/r/MensRights19/03/24 07:23 AM
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I think it's because feminism has never been about women's rights. It's been about power. Men's rights has been about men's rights. Rational, within reason. Has nothing to do with power. Trying to seize power is loud, and makes big changes. Quiet plea towards a rational outcome, that's quiet and the tyrants see it as complaining
/r/MensRights05/03/24 04:06 AM
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progressive There's your problem. They're indoctrinated into the rhetoric and propaganda. It's checkmate for men to play the game, by modern standards. They're just too indoctrinated to see it.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 03:52 AM
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Protection, provision, leadership.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 04:39 AM
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I think it's a mix. The aspects that make them great partners for men, also make them enemies of men. Context, environment, is everything. I recently saw an interview, where an ex CIA agent talked about several things. One was stages of development, and how that affects people making decisions later on in life. The early stage (I believe from 0 to age 8), children (men and women both) are highly susceptible to what they are taught. By in large, they don't have the ability to filter what they're …
/r/MensRights29/02/24 04:06 AM
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Anyone who buys rap music for starters. How many people buy, or play, rap songs about murdering others? Only one example. I've seen more people disagree with rapists than killers. I've seen more people turn away from supporting rapists, yet I see many supporting killers.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 03:37 AM
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And that's how men find out about MGTOW. Many feel the same way.
/r/MensRights10/02/24 06:56 AM
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It is a tactic, to set themselves up to always look in the right. Either men are toxic, or they're not men. It's their attempt at demonizing men.
/r/MensRights28/01/24 12:55 PM
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It's a manipulation tactic. Blaming others takes the focus off of them, so that they never have to take accountability for their actions or words. Women very often resort to manipulation tactics, because they can't win physically. Those women spent the first few decades of their lives bashing men. Refusing to seek out meaningful relationships. Now they're on the rejected side for the first time. If you expect them to submit now, after decades of rebellion, that makes you the fool. Instead, they …
/r/MensRights28/01/24 12:15 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly. My ex told me, when she left, that nothing I did was good enough for her. That's the reason she gave for leaving. How much of a slap in the face that she tried to get alimony? How can you sit there and say nothing I have you want, then turn around and demand I give to you. That's ridiculous. Like someone else said too.. if I'm having to pay as if she's still my wife, then she should be required to provide wife duties. She didn't have a job. So as long as I'm paying, she n…
/r/MensRights19/01/24 11:31 PM
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Yeah extremely crazy. I've experienced some of that bias personally. I used to have a "trust" mindset for authorities. After that, nope. Now I have to protect myself from women, because the law will absolutely take their side. Men are guilty until unequivocally proven innocent. It's surreal. So you both must be shocked.
/r/MensRights19/01/24 03:19 PM
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Sadly, this is on the lighter side of what men can face. Which really says how bad things are for men. It's absolutely insane how gynocentric this country is. (I saw one of your responses, where you said you live in the us).
/r/MensRights19/01/24 10:13 AM
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Here's what I think. But, I don't even know if I'm way off, or it's right. It just feels right, given my limited knowledge on life in general. So here goes: the modern world is gynocentric. In every sense of the definition. So, it's geared towards propagating those ideologies. TV, social media, movies, magazines, all push that rhetoric and propaganda. some might very well be nefarious. It seems to fit really well that people like George soros is in on that. Decades ago, he openly admitted in nat…
/r/MensRights19/01/24 08:34 AM
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I know what I experienced. I don't need to rectify anything to you. It's the internet, I'm not obligated to do shit for you. Get fucked. People don't have to believe shit I say, doesn't hurt me any. It was the truth. That's what truth is, regardless of asshats like you saying otherwise lol
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:51 PM
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I was there. You weren't. And you were wrong :) mmkay If you had started with polite questions, then I'd be more receptive to discussion. But passive aggressive insult isn't going to illicit that open discussion
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:39 PM
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Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know you were there lol
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:25 PM
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What do you mean? I did go to court, to defend myself.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:18 PM
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Blaming is a manipulation tactic. It's to take the focus off of themselves, in order to confuse others to misplace the fault.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 08:12 PM
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I mostly agree with your statements. I think it really far fetched to assume feminists will side with men, nor do I think those that support those groups will such over. There is clearly a side agenda, and they clearly are very adamant in pursuing it to its fullest potential. Sadly. I also agree that, if we get enough together, then we can hit their income stream. Problem is, people don't do that for things that could be chalked up to conspiracy theories. Budlight only worked because they openly…
/r/MensRights04/01/24 06:14 AM
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The way to change that is to get wealthy people to start backing it. To stop supporting rich people that are against that (like educating ourselves about people like George soros, etc). The only other real option is to get a lot together, to fight back in large groups. Major issue is that the law backs up the gynocentric society we're in. They enforce the rules. They're the ones backing up toxic women, and charging innocent men.
/r/MensRights04/01/24 03:56 AM
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It nearly happened to me. My ex tried to say I abused her. With zero evidence. They tried to prosecute me over it. Meanwhile, in her statement, she openly admitted to being verbally abusive towards me... nothing. They took no actions against her. They ended up dropping the case against me, due to lack of evidence... you know... the thing they should've had before they started trying to prosecute me. But only after I took a domestic violence/ anger management course. So I had to pay over a thousa…
/r/MensRights04/01/24 03:21 AM
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This is a gynocentric society. Period. Everything revolves around women. They can blatantly decide towards men, downright hateful. But we can't even disagree without it turning into a huge ordeal. It's really like a dumpster fire. The best way to get rid of a dumpster fire is to let it burn itself out. Problem is, it might take a generation or 2. Once enough men go overseas to find wives, or straight out refuse to date, then women will die alone and miserable. The next generations will see that …
/r/MensRights02/01/24 08:09 PM
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The goal is the same, the method of approach is different. They seek to shame men into complete submission. That way they have all the power and control. So they'll insult, guilt, shame. Do anything they can get away with, just to make that happen. It's no different than a hostile takeover from a dictator.
/r/MensRights01/01/24 06:13 AM
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There are multiple types, that might fit into this category. There are those that pretend to be kind, while having alterior motives. Some might think they actually are, but having the other motives make them not such. There are some that are genuinely kind and nice. But, there are some in this realm that are right out pushovers. They don't have healthy boundaries. This is a recipe for disaster. Many nice men fall into the trap of believing in modern day feminism. They are at war with themselves.…
/r/MensRights01/01/24 12:37 AM
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I disagree. Men are instinctually responding to consequences we foresee. Evolution/ creation (whichever you prefer) has designed us to step up for right and just. If we see something we know is unjust, we can't just turn off the inclination to at least respond. A good leader/ protector will at least say something. But it is their choice to allow it or not. So, a good leader will allow them to make their own mistakes.
/r/MensRights20/12/23 04:02 PM
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Gynocentric society. When every woman is a 10, then they can't do anything wrong. So it's gotta be really extreme for it to pattern interrupt.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 08:02 PM
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The world has always been a challenge. That's life. Just in different ways. I encourage you to seek help, or a good connection of friends. Even though it's what I'm also struggling with. In my case, it became way better, once I accepted that I'll just be alone. I'd rather be alone than with the wrong person. So, I'll do my best to just enjoy life where I can.
/r/MensRights18/12/23 07:51 PM
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Or until it's obvious enough that younger generations see the truth for what it is. Whichever comes first.
/r/MensRights18/12/23 07:48 PM
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As someone with a naturally warm heart, here's what I've learned: Learn appropriate boundaries. This means you'll have to get used to taking the cold approach, with people that are simply there to take. I recommend reading the book boundaries. Don't let people gaslight (or really use any toxic method out there) in order to manipulate you into giving more than needed. They are your resources (time, money, energy, etc). So, keep them. BECAUSE when you save your resources, protecting them from take…
/r/MensRights05/11/23 04:49 AM
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I think: - both are concerned about appearance, just for different factors. Priorities - women tend to prioritize looking good, being good mates. So they'll tend to shut down any mention of something that contradicts their image looking good. And they tend to follow most women's opinion. - which leads to competition among women. The smaller the pool of potential suitors (relative to their perceived number anyway), the more harsh their competition will be. - so echo chambers are their way to esta…
/r/MensRights28/10/23 05:16 PM
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There's only one solution... and it's the hardest one to accept. Don't expect or seek out companionship. Put all your effort into monetary gains, and something hobby related (balancing financial stability and fun).
/r/MensRights14/10/23 08:58 PM
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Before, she used the excuses that she wanted it to be Godly, meaning in marriage. After marriage, she came up with different excuses all the time. Sometimes it would change after a few days. Sometimes after a month. But one thing was absolutely consistent... her rejecting the whole idea. I was duped, in more ways than one. Thankfully, even though it felt like crap at the time, it didn't last long after that. It's insane how they believe they can have exclusivity, yet starve us simultaneously. So…
/r/MensRights04/10/23 09:33 AM
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Stop all kinds of pandering to women who aren't in your inner circle. Don't give them time, attention, resources, unless they are in a close relationship with you. Let them struggle.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 08:09 PM
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Nature doesn't care of you have kids, or if you have a sick mate at home. It doesn't care if you had a bad week, or if you've been having the greatest week of your life. We men are responsible for protection, provision, and leadership. It is absolutely necessary that we have that control over what we do, regardless of how we feel. We can go overboard, certainly. But it's crucial that we know when to process what. Feelings have a time and place to process. If we don't have the strong network, a g…
/r/MensRights27/09/23 09:19 PM
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Who said I was a liberal? Awfully judgemental of you. For someone preaching hang together, you are speaking divisively. You must love the guy, just because he's liberal.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 09:17 PM
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It's the age old trick of the devil. Make people love you, and you can do any number of horrible travesty. And the people will likely thank you for it. I think that's exactly what's going on with him. He does terrible things. But because he does it under the guise of love, people love him for it.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 08:30 PM
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Agreed. It's something that Jordan Peterson points out. Yet people hate him for it.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 08:21 PM
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Look up George soros. The guy is a menace, and has been for decades. He was on national television decades ago. He right out said he hated this country, and will do anything he can to destroy it. He has multiple "humanitarian" non profits. They all give to various groups, including those pushing feminist agendas. He's put billions into backing political candidates in cities, to get them into office. Strangely, years later, the economy in those regions has crashed, with those neighborhoods becomi…
/r/MensRights30/08/23 08:19 PM
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I bet if we followed the money, it would lead to some monetary support from George sorros. It doesn't surprise me. It should. But it doesn't.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 06:05 PM
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Agreed. But we used to, and feminists called it sexist gender roles. They called it patriarchal. But I agree, it should be both ways.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 09:07 PM
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people say that this is just a cope and it's all up in our heads. Classic example of gaslighting. Some men are absolutely doing that, because of that reason. But that's not the root. It's the fact that women get away with abuse, with zero accountability from the law. Our only means left to defend ourselves is to leave. They can be actively attacking us, with weapons, and somehow the law will arrest us, not them. We would be charged with assault. They, most times, wouldn't be. Yes, there are exce…
/r/MensRights23/08/23 03:28 PM
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It's called ad hominem fallacy. It's a major tactic they use to "win" a stance, or argument.
/r/MensRights14/08/23 07:23 AM
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Crazy how the truth is downvoted... I'd bet by women, the very ones it benefits the most
/r/MensRights09/08/23 11:42 PM
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Those are so far and few between, that we can't really factor that into the equation. It's like hiring a financial team to look after our lottery winnings, when we haven't won the lottery. That's why this concept, of men going their own way, is gaining so much traction. How feasible is it for men to find those women? They're largely inaccessible to most men. Further, how few of them are there out there? Making them even more inaccessible. Meanwhile, how many women out there are the antithesis? T…
/r/MensRights07/08/23 09:54 PM
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Yeah for sure. I was in manufacturing. Women would always ask men to do certain tasks. At first, I'd help, especially since management said we should. After a while, I refused. Management got mad of course, but I didn't care. I'd always point out that it was a direct job function for them while helping them was indirect. They should be able to so the task without help. Yet, they continuously refused to. Thereby refusing to do certain job functions, while making others do it for them. Management …
/r/MensRights05/08/23 04:51 PM
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Awesome. I do wonder where her intentions are, as many women are just out to gain followers, by appealing to them. So, they'll say things that men want to hear, just to get their support. But behind closed doors, they don't neoprene those things at all. That said, does it matter much, if they are putting out our voices, and spreading the beliefs? If they are helping the cause, of what most of us advocate for (true equality, fairness across the board), then I don't think it matters much. Today's …
/r/MensRights03/08/23 10:15 PM
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I think some videos do a great job at calling out the bs. Like asking them to point out ways that men are more privileged than women. Like asking them to point out ways women are oppressed. That sort of stuff. I think we're only at the seeds planting right now in society. I don't think we can totally change people's minds over night. There are too many that hate men for existing. So, plant seeds of doubt. Ask for examples, get them thinking, actually thinking, about the details of what they're s…
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:09 AM
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Yeah it's all about correcting others when you notice it. Other than that, I think it's awesome you're seeing through the bs.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:40 AM
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Absolutely. Every storm ever has ended at some point. This storm is bad. It'll turn around eventually. Because that's how life works. This is the digital age too. So it'll likely happen way sooner than if it weren't all over the internet. Awareness is growing. And men choosing to stay single, or go to other countries for women, will make a huge change eventually. Don't know exactly when. But it is going to happen. And I'm guessing it's going to be a huge change.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:12 AM
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Rhetoric, mixed with the fact that women are naturally more susceptible to suggestion. Feminist agendas are everywhere. From early on, it's on every TV show or movie. Go to school, and it's in classrooms. In college, it's pushed like an aggressive religion. Groups form, to shove the Rhetoric into women's faces. Billionaires are literally pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into feeding the narrative. An object in motion will stay in motion, or an object at rest will stay at rest, until acted…
/r/MensRights02/08/23 03:23 AM
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I think it'll be really good in the long run. But I do think there should be better oversight, on the admissions system overall. There's no real check or balance on it being prevented. If I had to make rules regarding it, I'd make it about aptitudes. If they check the big boxes, and still aren't chosen, then why not? That sort of thing. Without this, and it doesn't prevent the issue from arising again. But my problem with the original stance is that it forced colleges to about people in, with on…
/r/MensRights30/06/23 12:45 AM
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It's extremely rare to find a woman like you out here. I could wish all kinds of things (like that more women would see how that culture is harming everyone, including them. Or that they'd see there are great men out here too). But wishes are for genies, and I'm fresh out lol You are rare though, and in such a great way. I would say this though, I'm good with women wanting their own way. I just think both is fine. If they want to be the home maker, then great. If not, then great. Everyone should…
/r/MensRights10/04/23 06:01 AM
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Why would I need to argue against something so obvious to anyone that wishes to see truth? The answer is clearly, absolutely not. The western world is privileged. We live a fairly cushioned life, compared to the rest of the world. Yet, women have it far easier. Far more privileged. Look at how they unleash their emotional turmoil onto men, and nothing happens. Do some real studies on domestic abuse. While the most violent abuse cases are done by men, most abuse comes from women. Yet, society com…
/r/MensRights09/04/23 04:11 AM
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If by less than half you mean zero.. then sure I agree. How many stories lately are coming out, with women teachers raping young boys, and they get zero jail time?
/r/PussyPassDenied14/03/23 12:51 AM
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There’s also all these beta males Just to be clear: You are shaming the very men that are being treated poorly, and saying you agree with the sentiment of it not being right. Thereby only supporting the movement of the women that are believing in the ways you then claim you are against. In doing so, you also insinuate one can control the beliefs of women, and anyone who can't is then less than you. Meanwhile they are still believing this, therefore you must be less than yourself (since you are n…
/r/MensRights03/03/23 03:20 AM
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Shame insult guilt need to be right. That's their tactics. Any time something challenges their narrative, it will turn into these tactics. It's not rocket science. (These types of) Women are using the same tactics, they just change the wording when it isn't as effective.
/r/MensRights03/03/23 03:08 AM
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Indeed. The only time this logic is considered a good argument is when women use it to say how much they do. The roomba vacuumed for 3 hours today, so that means I worked for 3 hours right? In every other context those same women would rightfully trash the argument.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 03:28 AM
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Many studies have shown that the large majority of domestic violence cases are mutual. So, I'd imagine they are very close in numbers, to what women report. If not, then more. In many cases I know of, if men reported, they are often the ones charged. While there are outliers, that's what I'd be willing to bet.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 02:48 PM
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I misinterpreted nothing. You seem to be projecting, because really none of that applies to me.
/r/AntiFeminists24/02/23 03:15 AM
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The question was just a question. We would simply be gone. You guys would have nothing but each other for company. I'm not claiming it would be a good outcome, by any means.
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/23 12:38 AM
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OK well enjoy your life then lol
/r/AntiFeminists22/02/23 12:20 AM
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I'm simply answering the prompted question. The end game would be victory, in the battle of the sex wars. As the OP prompted us to. The message you don't get is how disrespectful your tone is, and yet truly don't understand men. You are sitting in the shield that our predecessors have built for us (including men and women, by the way), and insulting the men that were a part of building it. Then using your currently shielded life as "proof" of how women could make it outside of the shield just fi…
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/23 11:20 PM
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Women would outwit and escape you This is the comment that makes you look idiotic. I'm fairly confident that there are an equal number of men as women, that are just as witty, intelligent, etc. To say women would simply escape, and walk away, is just stupid. Would very likely mean you would be the one overly confident, and therefore permanently captured. Not saying I agree with the morality, just saying it's what is most likely. And it points out a concept you simply do not understand. Men are n…
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/23 11:09 PM
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Oh no side would win. No matter which side would claim victory, no side would truly win. There is no winner in war. But i also do not think it would ever be that extreme, to wipe out all of one side or the other.
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/23 10:56 PM
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If you don't truly need men, go away then. The cold truth is that men and women need each other. The only reasons you have all the cushions you have are because WE (as men and women) have built a solid infrastructure here that allows that, over generations. Remove those cushions. Women would fall flat and wonder why. We, men and women, need to stop that bs of not needing each other. It's completely idiotic. Even in the sense that you describe. You aren't in a survival situation. You are in a ver…
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/23 10:53 PM
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I love how she puts quotes, and it's not what I said lol if you're going to quote someone, at least get it right
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/23 10:10 PM
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Some people just don't get it lol
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/23 12:58 PM
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No such thing. Men are designed to war. Through millions of years, through creation, whichever way you want to look at it. Men are created for fighting. So it's not a gender war. Never will be. It's that men allow the disrespect and hatred to continue. Two fold. If most men decided to change it, it would be a fast process to put a stop to it. The other way is more passive, and greatly detrimental. Men don't decide to put a stop to it, letting feminists unravel the infrastructure of the country, …
/r/AntiFeminists21/02/23 02:30 AM
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Same thing from most of these posts. Shame tactics. Devaluing in order to be seen as dominant. It's all about power and control from them.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 11:24 PM
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And rich. Feminism is an attempt to control. That's all it is. Control is based upon devaluing anything and everything those under your control contribute, and make everything you do as Godly. They admit it, indirectly, by their projections (psychological definition of). "Patriarchy", despite any proof of contrary. They're not going after equality. They're going after complete power and control. Complete authority.
/r/AntiFeminists07/02/23 01:58 AM
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Shame, insult, guilt, need to be right. These are tactics they use to win against men. That answers the first part. As to the next part, their whole lives are about blaming and not taking accountability for their actions. So yeah, they aren't going to see the very consequences as stemming from their own actions. Because they don't want to. Further, people tend to see what they want to see. The see men as evil, therefore will notice only the "assholes". They'll use those examples as "proof" for t…
/r/AntiFeminists05/02/23 01:16 AM
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Women hate knowing about competing with anything. Just how they're wired. You say you love your dog, even having nothing to do with sex, and women will be jealous.
/r/MensRights31/01/23 06:28 AM
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Ying yang. Peace does not exist without war. Those insistent on peace, without being just as willing to fight, aren't peaceful. They're weak.
/r/MensRights30/01/23 05:25 PM
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The title is misleading. Women are following feminism, right off the cliff. Despite Men advising against it. When men attempt to help them, stop them, or warn them, the men are met with hostility. That's freedom for you. If you refuse help, and claim patriarchy, or tyranny, and insist on ignoring wise advice, then it could lead to the very consequences you choose. Society is collapsing because they are choosing to remove load bearing pillars, that men put there, and advise to keep. So yeah... Me…
/r/MensRights30/01/23 05:23 PM
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"It's a way of women trying to raise their market value to men". It's all part of the plan. If they starve men enough, most will believe about anything, including what is supposed to be attractive, etc. Problem is, that's where post nut clarity comes into play. After that, they see what's really going on, if even small pieces, yet effective enough to turn them away from it. But toxic women will shame insult guilt need to be right, in order to attempt to get their way. Which will only lead to fur…
/r/MensRights27/01/23 11:27 PM
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The way I see it, they are pushing the boundaries as far as they can, before it's pushed back. But here's the thing, men aren't weak, we just look like we are right now. They are confusing kindness for weakness. We've made their lives way too soft. So they're taking what they see as weakness, and exploiting it. They'll keep doing so until we all stand up in unison, declaring enough is enough. Then there will be some large show of strength. Just enough to prove we are way too strong for them. We'…
/r/MensRights25/01/23 01:18 PM
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Every bit of life, I've found it to be true "life makes many choices for us. But it's up to us to make choices to navigate what's left. " To a large degree, we do create our own problems. But we also don't create many of our own, we just try to make the best of what's left. The same is true for women too. Sentient beings are greatly responsible for our own outcomes. The main issue is that it's tough to navigate towards the truth of why things happen. I love the quote from Dr who "that's people's…
/r/MensRights21/01/23 02:31 AM
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It's refreshing to see that a woman is self reflecting enough to see she could be the problem. I'm sad that you do have a fear of men. I think some fear of men is healthy. I'm a man, and I also have a level of fear for other men. Being masculine is about being dangerous, yet under complete control of ourselves. So it's a huge part of being masculine. Therefore, it should be feared. But not to the point of it keeping others from interacting with us in healthy ways. Again, under control is a huge …
/r/MensRights19/01/23 01:00 AM
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Crappy thing is they are blaming men for the overturning lol
/r/MensRights17/01/23 09:04 PM
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Exactly the point. Emotional intelligence is very important. Being empathetic towards fellow human beings is important. Most women don't care though.
/r/MensRights15/01/23 04:03 AM
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I say, stop giving advice unless they ask for it. Yes, or means the train wreck of their life will happen. Yes, it means they'll go through life oblivious to their own stupidity. But if they don't care, neither should you. If someone asks you what your thoughts are, they are the ones that deserve your thoughts.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 04:18 AM
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All jokes aside: she's absolutely delusional. In other countries, absolutely women have it harder. In western countries, women have it so freaking easy that it's insane. They mainly create a lot of their own problems. There are terrible men, that will harm women in general. But it's far less common than they portray. Meanwhile, men have it incredibly hard, in the dating scene. Our lives in the western world in general isn't difficult, by comparison. But, men definitely have things harder. Most l…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 12:56 AM
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For context, I used to be that guy, bending over backwards for people that didn't value what I did for them. I'm much happier now that I don't have to. For those that show me I'm valued, I'll do anything for. But for those that don't value me, they see my cold side. It's about balance. I'm cold to those that don't value me, they might even call me heartless. But that's so I can put all that heart into those that do value me.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 07:52 PM
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Sounds to me like you need to unlock your true "real man" and tell them no. Put up boundaries, and tell them that's what real men do. They want stuff done, pay someone to do it. You got stuff to do. For people that value me, sure, I'll do stuff for them. But for them to say I need to be a real man... that puts them to the cold exterior. So, be a real man and put them in the cold. If they ask, tell them real men are busy, and they should pay someone to do those things, instead of using you. Not b…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 07:48 PM
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To add to that... they've also convinced women to give that hard earned money to the wealthy (buying so many overly priced goods, just because it's popular). Even to get a man in their life, just so they can give more money to those big corporations. It's absolute absurdity.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 09:57 PM
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When women can't convince with argument, they resort to shaming tactics. Using "you hate all women" as a smokescreen for what they're really doing. It's not them who can't learn... you're not learning their same tactics. They keep using the same tactics. So, learn from it. They might change the words. They'll use any shaming, gaslighting, or whatever works. So, stop assuming they are unwilling to learn what they're doing. They know. Eventually, enough men will get sick of it, and then turn again…
/r/MensRights05/12/22 11:49 PM
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