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UmeaHC/r/seduction03/11/10 05:13 AM
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10-4 man this is all solid Game
/r/seduction27/11/10 11:32 PM
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When you responded with "you're a real pain in the ass, you know ?" Why bother ? It is an unnecessary reaction to the situation. It's also very hard to read that jokingly through text, as cheddarchexmix said. If she had read it jokingly, and not in a completely different light, you wouldn't have gotten the essay back.
/r/seduction27/11/10 11:20 PM
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Try it with no alcohol. Don't use it as a crutch to break down whatever anxiety you have. Your wits are sharper when you are off of it, and the escalation process will be more clear to you.
/r/seduction27/11/10 10:52 PM
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Indifferent or not, cheddarchecmix point still holds. It might have been that indifference that attracted her in the first place.
/r/seduction27/11/10 10:50 PM
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If you had 10 other options besides her, would you have reacted so strongly to her blow off ? Probably not.
/r/seduction27/11/10 10:43 PM
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Talk some, listen more. Look for the things the two of you can talk about without forcing the issue, that are interesting for both of you. We all agree on something, sometimes we just don't have the ability to see beyond our own narrative or content.
/r/seduction27/11/10 10:36 PM
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Wait, wait......You want her to miss you ? Big mistake. You wouldn't care as much if you had created more opportunities for yourself. I.E. More women. You're waiting for HER to feel differently ? Truth is, man, you feel differently already, I would move on.
/r/seduction27/11/10 08:09 PM
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You should control the frame.......If you let them blather on about what-have-you, without catching the threads that interest you, you're in girlfriend zone. In short; Listen, pick out things they say that interest you, run with them, control the frame.
/r/seduction27/11/10 07:41 PM
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You wont know how bad it was until you hang out again. If you are met with resistance, or you fail to close in any way, You'll know why.
/r/seduction27/11/10 07:19 PM
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My best friend is asian, and an amazing wing and PUA. If you get your self confidence up, and come from a completely different place than they expect, you are already two steps ahead of them.
/r/seduction27/11/10 06:08 PM
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I guess the non-answer would be; talk to them anyway. Don't let a lack of knowledge when it comes to women hold you back.
/r/seduction27/11/10 06:06 PM
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I used to do this alot, more than I care to remember. I thought I was making the conversation more fun. I was wrong. When I look back at these interactions, I remembered that NONE of them evolved into anything good, or worthy of my time. Not only is it a DLV, by attempting to get people to laugh all the time, you will become the clown. Also something you do not want, or need. You can be funny without putting yourself down. Work on it.
/r/seduction27/11/10 05:49 PM
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When she says she misses you, say " you just lost 10 points ".
/r/seduction27/11/10 05:32 PM
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I'm not a fan of rescheduling based on her availability. Although with this one, and a girl I've been talking to, they seem to have a hard time interacting in any other way. The only mistake I see is when you keep asking her to come, even though she said it wasn't going to happen.
/r/seduction27/11/10 05:30 PM
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All good things, man. I'm hoping that your text didn't go something like "I had a really good time, did you ?" or "So, did you have a good time?" say it aint so!!!!!
/r/seduction27/11/10 05:24 PM
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I used to manage in a book store. It is a playground for any PUA, or PUA learning. Here's why; 1) If you are a good reader, or know a fair amount about a particular subject, you can take advantage of it and have decent conversation based on that 2) There is usually an easy insta-date location nearby( E.G. Coffee shop, etc.) 3) You are showing high value by intellect alone if you know books. 4) Opinion openers do work in here, ask her for a good book rec. It will open up all sorts of doors to goo…
/r/seduction26/11/10 12:44 AM
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I agree with ThrowawayPUA in most of this. There are benefits in taking the initiative to get her number from friends. I wouldn't go that route though. You will show more value if you have the patience to wait until everyones together again, generate some GENUINE attraction, and go from there.
/r/seduction25/11/10 07:40 PM
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Not fake, actually. Just didn't pan out. My mistakes during the PU lead to a "blurring".
/r/seduction25/11/10 07:33 PM
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I will, indeed.
/r/seduction25/11/10 12:37 AM
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Because it is like she gave you a piece of pine instead of a means to contact her. Imagine asking her number, and she handing you a 2X4. This is good for, nothing.
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:41 PM
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No. For obvious reasons. Is there any POSSIBLE way you can lower your value any more from the 1st second you utter a word to her ? There probably is, you could say "I'm a loser, and I need validation, and I see you as someone above my level who I would LOVE to have sex with and call my girlfriend because I see you as a higher status person than I am" My bad, you are already saying that to her.
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:38 PM
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I think you're ok, man. As far as I can see, you didn't get blown out. You know where she works, and can return to talk with her a second time. Be advised though, if you fail to get her number the next time, she will not see you as a man who takes what he wants.
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:34 PM
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You have to give yourself credit where it is due! You got "lucky" when it came to working with women who you were attracted to, but at some point, and in some ways, you were doing something right.
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:24 PM
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It means the number did not convert into a date or a meetup. It was probably my first time ever doing a cold approach and stepping out of my comfort zone to go into a set.
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:20 PM
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They are higher quality women because they are considered "hired guns". The managers (if they are men, usually) will go out of their way to hire a more attractive woman, as it increases foot traffic and business. Just remember, they are essentially doing their job by engaging you in conversation. If you feel she asks a question or makes a comment that she wouldn't necessarily make around her boss, then she is most likely either A) very good at her job, or B) opening you.
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:18 PM
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My "a-ha" came the very first time I went out and got a number close from a bartender at a strip club. It was wood, but it allowed me to gather some confidence in all the method, and material I had been studying, not to mention, confidence in myself.
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:08 PM
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This is not a slight on you in any way, man; Luck had nothing to do with it. You had the raw materials, just not a method Furthermore, you always have good input for seddit, and I appreciate that.
/r/seduction24/11/10 10:06 PM
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Sounds like she's a little try-hard dude. She will push for a relationship, in my opinion. Nothing about her attempts to contact you, or your interaction screams to me "casual relationship". If she acts this way now, barely knowing you, think of how she'll be when the attachment grows stronger, I.E. sex. Remember that for a lot of women (not just her) a sexual relationship will create an emotional bond for her, as I see it.
/r/seduction12/11/10 06:46 PM
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If they were met with reply WHATSOEVER ?? I guess I'm just old school in the way that through a text there is less risked and therefore, less gained. Easier to say no to a well worded text, as opposed to a fucking awesome conversation.
/r/seduction09/11/10 01:41 AM
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One thing ? Too much text game. All this 'I texted her and waited around for a response for days' stuff is overboard.
/r/seduction08/11/10 03:46 PM
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I think it's more a DHV on her part, than an IOI. Definitely a good initial reaction, sounds like she's trying to make sure you are not that kind of guy. What she is essentially saying when translated is "I'm someone desirable that guys lose their heads over"
/r/seduction08/11/10 03:43 PM
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You gave her comfort when she gave you the good girl routine ? That, right there was the issue. You should have stopped and pulled away. The point is making the break off of contact more awkward than actually moving forward with the seduction. When she stops, and says she's a good girl, completely back away and say something like " You're right, this is probably a huge mistake, I never do this" then move forward. Ideally, the LMR should be something that you are working on breaking down from the…
/r/seduction07/11/10 10:39 PM
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Rather than continuing to pursure her with Kino when she made a joke about you holding her, you should have punished her, and completely brushed her off. It might not have mattered but it sounded a little bit forced. It does indeed sound like an LJBF situation. If she was into you, and you had demonstrated certain qualities on your date, it wouldn't have mattered whether or not you were moving away.
/r/seduction07/11/10 04:04 PM
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Recovery probability with her is very low. I do not condone going through your sister to try and find out the truth and/ or pass messages though. She would most likely tell your sister the same thing so as not to hurt your FEELINGS. Move on, man. That window of opportunity was most likely closed after the first initial encounter. Just remember that demonstrating that you are a man who takes what he wants is one of the most important things to demonstrate at the early stages. Don't feel too bad t…
/r/seduction07/11/10 03:59 PM
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Yeah I agree with most of what was said below, try something more like "lets catch a movie tonight". Her saying something like "awww that's sweet of you" translates to "you are so not what I'm looking for"
/r/seduction07/11/10 04:19 AM
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Good input RM, thanks. I didn't specify that the initial encounter was very short, and that is half the reason why I considered this next meet up an ACTUAL day 1. Short as in 20 minutes or so, minus the time she wasn't at our table. SO really more like 10 mins of actual interaction.
/r/seduction03/11/10 07:42 PM
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You didn't show enough interest. A girl wants a MAN who knows how to take charge, you need to show her a couple of things: That you are, in fact into her (actions, not words) That you are a man who takes what he wants Invite her out for drinks this time (not your place) show her your qualities as a man, and then find an excuse to bring her back, like "oh I have some really cool videos I saw that reminded me of you, you will laugh your ass off!" Once you have her there, make your move.
/r/seduction03/11/10 06:59 AM
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If you feel more comfortable trading numbers, pull out a sheet of paper, hand her half of it, and begin writing your number on the side you have.
/r/seduction02/11/10 03:20 PM
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Also, want to know what "needing to define a relationship" turns into ? Watch the movie "500 Days of Summer"
/r/seduction31/10/10 12:57 AM
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agreed! Heading out soon over here too.
/r/seduction31/10/10 12:56 AM
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Sounds like for whatever reason, her shit test was graded on a curve! HAHA you got lucky to be sure, but I guess it would also depend on how much attention she was paying when you did it....Was there ALOT of alcohol involved ?
/r/seduction30/10/10 06:52 PM
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My trigger is rusty too, man. Keep your head up. Sounds like she's into you, so you should have another chance to get something going with her. Don't wait too long.
/r/seduction30/10/10 06:48 PM
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Be mindful of the fact that there is never REALLY security in any relationship. It's a classic dude thing to do. You want to say "hey is this going somewhere, are we dating now?" But do you honestly think that taking her the dictionary route and forcing her to cop to being IN a relationship with you will change anything ? If you guys are seeing eachother and you dig her (sounds like you do) then you need to try and be happy with that for now. I had a very similar situation before with a similar …
/r/seduction30/10/10 06:46 PM
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It's never a sure bet. Keep at it, man. It does get easier, and the ultimate idea is that at some point you wont have to ask these questions, it will all be normal behavior for you. Try and imagine the best result possible, and the alternative as far as your goals with women. Then and only then will you see that you have come far, but have a long way to go, like us all.
/r/seduction27/10/10 06:13 PM
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Ask for her opinion about an interesting lecture, maybe in the class you're in, or another interesting topic.
/r/seduction27/10/10 05:54 AM
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I have been talking about this quite a bit with a fellow sedditor and friend. it's great advice and for those of us who ritualistically pound and abuse ourselves. A whole new world worth living without the fappage.
/r/seduction26/10/10 08:00 PM
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Agreed, In the future if she or any other girl were to ask you to reschedule, reply with a simple "don't have my calendar in front of me, it's a busy week"
/r/seduction26/10/10 07:48 PM
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props.
/r/seduction26/10/10 04:50 AM
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I love that when I read the title for the thread, I said to myself "yes, you most definitely are" but I don't think that's the case here. Sounds like this case is closed for you, my man. It's pretty much in the bag, and you sound like you know what your doing, just remember to prepare for the inevitable LMR's and have fun! Also just as a side note - dual induction massage ?
/r/seduction25/10/10 07:50 PM
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Work on a solid kiss close, man. Sometimes it's as easy as saying "do you want to kiss me?" If it's a maybe answer, say "lets find out" and if it's a no, shrug it off, give your own IOD's then ask again
/r/seduction24/10/10 06:40 PM
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Read up on "photo routine" and a few kino games if you havent done that already. I really love the "cube" or 5 questions game if you want to check those out. Having said that, I agree with the poster before me, she's on your bed and you are going to be close, remember to push pull with her, and if she gives you IOD's you have to be ok with punishing her a little, ignoring her, etc. Then continue. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Go forth and plunder, my good man.
/r/seduction24/10/10 06:38 PM
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Ever hear the term don't dip your pen in company ink ? Yes, it IS possible to get something going on with them, just ask yourself, if it doesn't work out, is it something you would like to deal with an a daily basis ?
/r/seduction23/10/10 06:46 PM
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Good job, but I agree, too much initiating of convo on your side. Let her be the one that contacts you next. Make her chase, and you will get your f-close.
/r/seduction23/10/10 04:37 PM
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It doesn't mean she's not interested, just a nice sturdy hurdle to jump. Try asking about what she's reading for crying out loud. Am I crazy ? She is telling you something about herself without saying a word. Is it romance ? Psychology ? Fiction ? I can understand you being a little gun shy if you are not an avid reader, but there are still plenty of ways to get around this.
/r/seduction23/10/10 04:31 PM
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She is not a hired gun, she is a sniper. Paying her for sex is what it will always boil down to. You have to try and see her without the precondition of sex for money. Keep it simple. " We should have dinner this weekend, wear something less slutty,"
/r/seduction23/10/10 04:27 PM
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It is always a great idea to change venues, but try your best not to put the place down too much, just chalk it up to "I have a place you will like a lot more" grab her hand and lead her out of there, then take her to a nearby alley and pull your best kiss close.
/r/seduction23/10/10 04:23 PM
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You can go with funny scary, or romantic, in my opinion. Stay away from the drama's, though. Always play Led Zeppelin IV, side two.
/r/seduction23/10/10 04:19 PM
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With the assurance of some good IOI's, I say just make sure you keep it fun for everyone, and move fluently between all three. You might need to enlist a wingman to pull this off properly, because you will undoubtedly get attention from all 3, remember to isolate a target for some fun games, and one on one time, kiss close her, or more, then re-frame after the fact. How far can you take her ? If she is giving you doggie dinner bowl eyes, make sure you don't get concerned with the other two, and …
/r/seduction23/10/10 04:16 PM
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For the most part I think you were doing something right. There are a couple of choices of words that I would change, but alot of your inclinations were good. You: "You're such a nerd! smile (push) I'm usually not into that (pull) You: "does that mean it's a good time to take advantage of you ?" it's a weird statement, you were probably right in not saying it. say this instead: " I like you better when you're drunk, it's a lot more fun " (push) Her: "why ? You don't like me sober ?" (now she's c…
/r/seduction23/10/10 04:07 PM
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I really appreciate your thoughts. Let me ask you this, though, have you ever been totally clear with a girl/woman about what you wanted but still were courted to be her new man ?
/r/seduction03/10/10 09:17 PM
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