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DebateUpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:43 PM
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DebateUpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:55 PM
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DebateUpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:20 PM
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UpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:48 AM
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DebateUpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:47 AM
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UpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:47 AM
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UpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:05 AM
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DebateUpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:19 AM
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DiscussionUpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 08:29 AM
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DebateUpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:26 PM
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UpperInjury590/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:44 AM
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Good answer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/26 10:07 PM
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Cool. Wish you the best
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:13 PM
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No disrespect, your comment sums up what I don't like about blue pillers or this mindset. It turns personal preferences and things relationship related into moral issues. Valuing romance more doesn’t automatically make someone needy or transactional, and not wanting to stay friends after rejection doesn’t mean the friendship was fake. I also don’t think friends, family and hobbies are supposed to to make up for romantic intimacy. Different people need different things. A healthy person doesn’t n…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 05:12 PM
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I agree with the first part, neither is inherently better or worse. But I think the rest is kind of a separate issue from what I’m talking about. Obviously if a guy is only pretending to be a woman’s friend because he thinks being nice will eventually earn him sex, then yeah, that’s not really a genuine friendship. But that doesn’t really tell us anything about whether it’s unhealthy to value romantic relationships more than friendships. Someone can genuinely value their friends and still think …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 04:50 PM
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Yeah I mostly agree with this. There’s obviously a difference between saying “my life has literally no value unless I’m in a relationship” and saying “I have other good things in my life, but not having a romantic partner still makes me pretty unhappy.” I think people sometimes downplay the second one though. You can have good friends, hobbies, family, a decent career etc and still feel a pretty major absence if what you really want is romantic intimacy, sex, a life partner, marriage, kids or ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 04:46 PM
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Ironically, friends tend to drift apart over time and bros sometimes ditch their friends once they have a girlfriend. Though ultimately its a bit more nuanced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/26 03:43 PM
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Not every person who deals with jealousy is your sister. Their not always malicious they might have understandable insecurities. You might have difficulty understanding someone who's in that position perspective due to your privilege and history with your sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/26 07:49 AM
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Let's agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 04:51 PM
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Sometimes hatred is inevitable, you cannot deny or ignore reality it is human. Ironically yes, your correct that's why rather than trying to get rid of it pretending that differences don't matter and eventually everyone will love each other we work around hatred instead. Envy is an evil feeling. It is always negative, always bad. Yes but it's human and uncontrollably at times so you have to manage it It's still not good to leave the friendship. No one is owed or entitled to friendship Why were y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 11:51 AM
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I think we’re talking past each other. I’m not saying dating success should determine self-worth. I’m explaining why people often connect the two. And saying someone’s dating failure is caused by their “negative mentality” immediately after saying dating success has nothing to do with self-worth is exactly the contradiction I was pointing out. Mindset can affect dating, but you can’t infer someone’s character or the cause of their romantic outcomes just from the fact that they struggle. We clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 11:45 AM
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You are literally contradicting yourself in this comment and don’t seem to see it. On one hand, you’re saying people shouldn’t base their self-worth on dating success. But on the other hand, you’re saying men who struggle with dating probably complain, blame others, lack self-awareness, or have character traits that hurt their chances. Why do you think people tie their self-worth to romantic success in the first place? A big part of it is what that success seems to say about them: whether they’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 04:37 PM
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Dating is a reflection of your own success with the opposite sex. If you’re not good at it, self-reflection is necessary. Otherwise, you’ll continue to shift blame onto your friend’s success rather than take responsibility for your own shortcomings. That’s exactly the kind of contradiction I find frustrating and hilarious in dating advice. People will say “don’t base your self-worth on dating success,” then in the next breath say “if you’re not successful with the opposite sex, there's something…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:49 AM
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A jealous person is a jealous person. This character trait manifests in all aspects of their life. No it doesn't it can sometimes but not always. People are way more complex than your assuming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 05:22 AM
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I agree that nobody can speak for most people, and your friends clearly handle that dynamic well. That’s genuinely good. But your experience doesn’t prove that everyone who reacts differently has a fragile ego or poor coping skills. People have different insecurities, histories, and emotional limits. Your friends being able to tolerate the comparison doesn’t mean everyone can just choose to feel the same way. I also don’t think celebrities, a boss’s car, or a coworker buying a house are fully co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:46 AM
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You’re taking one hypothetical friendship ending and using it to invent an entire personality: poor social skills, unreliability, inability to cope with life, and probably being responsible for their own dating problems. None of that automatically follows. If someone repeatedly cuts off everyone who becomes more successful than them, then yes, that would be a serious pattern and a reasonable red flag. But one specific friendship becoming emotionally unsustainable does not prove they behave that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:43 AM
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I think you fall into the trap of repeating slogans that sound good but are ultimately empty. Sometimes comparison is inevitable, you cannot deny or ignore reality it is human and frankly logical. And yes envy isn't evil its the action you take that makes it good or bad it could even be used to improve yourself in some situations. "Comparison is the thief of joy." - T.R. Which is why leaving the friendship would be reasonable in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/26 02:33 AM
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Envy isn’t inheritly isn't evil and its pretty normal. Leaving a friendship because it creates envy and hurts the person mentally is a valid choice. Sometimes coming to terms with your limits and that you can't handle a situation and leaving is the most emotionally honest choice. Emotions aren't in your control only actions are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:59 PM
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Agree to disagree then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:45 PM
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Social media is not real life. That's why people say to get off it. What you're seeing there is so fake and processed, it's irrelevant to life. “Social media isn’t real life” is too simplistic. It involves real people and real experiences the problem is that we only see selective, edited snippets shaped by algorithms. But that also happens offline we rarely know the full reality of someone’s life. It is absolutely petty, insecure, and self-centered to be so affected by a friend's success that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:56 PM
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I feel like that's black and white thinking and demonises the person in that situation. Insecurity isn't evil nor is someone who leaves self centered. Even then they're situations where you need to put yourself first. We literally tell people to stop watching or reading about romantically or financially successful people on social media because the constant comparison damages their mental health this would be a similar situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:17 PM
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Leaving the friendship is a way if manging those feelings though. You can still work on those insecurities and make sure you have other friends. Why do you think we tell people to stop spending on social media watching or hearing people have what they want especially in dating? Because it naturally creates comparison and it happens automatically without the person's control, hurting mental health. I would say the same thing applies in this situation though leaving a friend makes things more comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:13 AM
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I agree with you. Its just that I think they can work on themselves, make sure they have friends and make new friends while still leaving the friendship if they feel they need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:03 AM
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👍 Agreed. Leaving the friendship should be step 1 in trying to get better next would be therapy and so on. On its own it makes the problem worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 10:11 PM
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Your right though, people are free to judge and are going to judge. At the end of the day most of the people judging don't care about the unattractive person in this situation outside if giving them empty platitudes. Even if the friends who might care can't do much and might eventually just say it's their problem (they would be right). Thus it would be in the best interest of someone in that situation to put themselves first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:59 PM
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You can be happy for someone and still feel envy emotions and human beings are complicated. Your right though, people are free to judge and are going to judge. At the end of the day most of the people judging don't care about the unattractive person in this situation outside if giving them empty platitudes. Even if the friends who might care can't do much and might eventually just say it's their problem (they would be right). Thus it would be in the best interest of someone in that situation to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:52 PM
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I think your response is genuinely kind, and your friendship with her sounds great. But I also think your situation is probably easier to handle than the one being described. Having attention occasionally shift to your attractive friend is different from repeatedly going out, approaching women, getting ignored, and then watching them focus on your friend instead. Especially for men, where they are usually expected to make the approach and take the rejection, that can become humiliating pretty qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 09:26 PM
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I don't think that's whining though. People tend to have a just world fallacy when it comes dating that isn't really true and his pushing against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 02:03 PM
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Not necessarily they could be a helpful friend in some situations but others might be too much for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 11:02 AM
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I mean, that’s basically part of my point. If being around someone is creating resentment or animosity, it may be better to step away than stay and slowly become bitter toward them. But I don’t think having those feelings means you never cared about them or failed as a friend. You can love and support someone and still realise the friendship is bringing out something unhealthy in you. Sometimes leaving is the more honest option for both people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:42 AM
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I think that’s fair, especially the point that if every successful person triggers the same insecurity, the problem will probably follow you. Where I disagree is that simply liking someone is always enough to make the friendship sustainable. You can genuinely like and care about someone while still finding the dynamic painful. And I don’t think shared experiences are a weak basis for friendship. Feeling understood because you’ve gone through similar things together can be a huge part of closenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:38 AM
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I get what you’re saying, and I agree that ending the friendship probably won’t fix the insecurity by itself. You’ll still see other people succeeding, so the deeper issue still has to be worked on. But “stop worrying about other people” and “love yourself” are much easier said than done. Sometimes you can know a reaction is unhealthy and still feel it anyway. My point is not that leaving magically solves everything. It’s that you can work on yourself while also deciding that one particular frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:36 AM
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I get your point, especially if we’re talking about a genuinely close, supportive friendship built over decades. I agree that ending something like that shouldn’t be taken lightly, and distancing yourself from one person obviously won’t remove every reminder of dating or relationships. Where I disagree is calling it a weak mindset. Being motivated by successful friends is your reaction, but it isn’t everyone’s. For some people, especially after years of struggling, the comparison just creates re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:35 AM
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I don’t think therapy and ending a friendship have to be one or the other. You can work on your envy and self-esteem while also admitting that a certain friendship keeps making you feel worse. Your experience with therapy is valid, but it doesn’t mean everyone will get the same result just by working harder or finding the right method. Therapy can help you cope, but it can’t change the situation itself or guarantee the comparison will stop hurting. And ending one friendship isn’t the same as iso…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:33 AM
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I don’t think considering ending the friendship means you never valued the person that much. You can care about someone deeply and still find the dynamic emotionally unbearable. Sometimes it actually hurts more because the friendship matters. Their success is constantly in front of you, the comparison feels more personal, and you may feel like someone who once understood your situation no longer does. That doesn’t make them a bad friend or mean the friendship was fake. It just means valuing some…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:30 AM
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I think you’re putting a bit too much faith in therapy here. Therapy can help someone understand and manage the insecurity, but it can’t change the reality they’re reacting to or guarantee the feeling will just disappear. Some insecurities aren’t completely irrational. If you’re constantly watching someone get the attention and experiences you struggle to get, that comparison can genuinely hurt. You can work on yourself, go to therapy, and still decide that a friendship is making you feel worse.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:27 AM
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I mean, yes. People are allowed to end friendships because of their own feelings, even when the other person did nothing wrong. Calling it “inadequacy,” “jealousy” and “baggage” doesn’t really change the argument. If someone knows the friendship constantly brings out insecurity and resentment in them, leaving may be healthier than staying and eventually treating the friend badly. The person should own that it’s their issue and not blame or shame the friend. But friendships are voluntary you don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:27 AM
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I get your point, but I think this assumes that doing the hard work will actually produce the outcome you want. It might help someone cope better, but effort and therapy do not guarantee that the insecurity will disappear. You can understand your feelings, challenge unhealthy thoughts and still be hurt by the same reality. Sometimes therapy helps you accept that a certain friendship or situation is not good for you rather than teaching you to tolerate it forever. Also, ending one friendship does…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:25 AM
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That’s fair, and I get why you’d be upset. I agree the insecurity should be worked on, but that doesn’t mean someone has to stay in a friendship that keeps making them feel worse. They should probably try less drastic options first, like spending less time together or avoiding certain conversations. But if the friendship still hurts more than it helps, I think ending it can be valid even if nobody did anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 04:19 AM
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Debate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 09:34 PM
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Some people are introverted and don't enjoy social interaction with strangers or even just casual friends with exceptions being extremely close friends or a romantic partner. Talking can just be energy draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 06:44 PM
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There are men who have zero female friends but get sex or have a relationship. There are men who have female friends but are virgins or are single. It can help but its not that simple and sometimes unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 03:32 PM
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50/50. I do think its possible for men to get better but it's not guaranteed even if he does work on himself since they are ceilings when it comes to looks and personality and also there is luck. Also women can still be attractive even she stays healthy and ages well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:20 PM
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Well most didn’t like it in the first place unless the guy was attractive, which was rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:18 PM
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I agree with parts of this, especially not forcing attraction, respecting rejection, and not building fantasy narratives from basic politeness. But I think the idea that attraction should already be “more or less a done deal” before asking someone out is unrealistic. Human attraction is often ambiguous, messy, and uncertain. People misread signals, hide attraction, act shy, or only develop feelings after more interaction. If everyone waited for near-certainty before initiating anything, a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:33 AM
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I think this is a much more reasonable comment than some of the others, and I agree that social awareness and taking rejection well matter a lot. But I still think there’s a contradiction in modern dating advice sometimes. By the end the standard becomes “don’t make a move unless it’s obvious they’re really into you,” but attraction often isn’t obvious, especially for shy, inexperienced, average-looking, or neurodivergent people. A lot of relationships started because someone took a chance despi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:24 AM
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I agree social awareness matters, but I think “only approach when attraction is already obvious” mainly benefits attractive or socially skilled people who already receive clear signals. A lot of socially inexperienced people genuinely can’t read attraction well, so the advice starts becoming circular: “take initiative, but you should already know beforehand if she wants you.” Also, humans are honestly bad at predicting attraction sometimes. Plenty of relationships started from situations where o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 07:19 AM
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I agree, though it does undermined the advice for struggling men to ask women out. They can't do that if they can't find any indications that a women is attracted to them. But I agree with your advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:30 PM
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Treating us like theres a secret way to all of us is an issue yall created That's a bit unfair women, and men do give guys struggling contradictory information when there looking for advice. But I agree with the rest of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:18 PM
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I don’t think friendship is the issue though. I think most people value friendship a lot, but unreciprocated romantic feelings can still genuinely hurt without that automatically meaning “I only wanted sex.” Most people want both emotional connection and romantic/sexual desire, and wanting to feel desired doesn’t make someone incapable of friendship. Otherwise heartbreak after rejection wouldn’t even exist. You can genuinely care about someone as a person while also feeling sad that the attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:02 PM
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It's progressive overreach
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 12:29 PM
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Dating, Reletionships and so on are complex so theirs no right answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:48 AM
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I agree on everything except the looks and personality, being funny or having a good personality cannot overshadow looks. It will only help you in your own looks range.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:41 PM
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I think it depends on how you say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:33 PM
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That's the Black Pill not Red Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:11 PM
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This is the best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 07:43 AM
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Depends on the person, it can increase the attractiveness of some men but do nothing for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:29 PM
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Eh, the women who sleep a lot would mainly sleep with attractive men, so it doesn't benefit them if men sleep around. They're angry that they don't sleep with them. Which is why they hate them, but they still want sex so having to wait pisses them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 08:42 AM
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When did he imply that he saw women as prizes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:50 PM
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Person A wants a relationship with Person B, B simply wants to stay friends so B rejects A. Thus A was friendzoned. Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 03:48 PM
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He was above average but definitely not handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:38 PM
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This is the best answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:35 PM
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And other people (mainly progressive types) tend to do the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:30 PM
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I'm surprised their are still people on this sub that bel looks don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:08 AM
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It's simply down to looks, the reason why most people get friendzoned is because the friend isn't attractive to the other friend plus all his/her positive traits make him/her a good friend but not reletionship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:14 AM
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"highly extroverted" you mean attractive right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:20 PM
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"So? Just because men give alot of money to women on Only Fans and Sugar Babies, doesn't mean I'm about to sell my body for money." I don't understand what you mean by this, if you don't wanna have a only fans account that's up to you. Likewise, if men want to pay women on only fans it's there choice. " So as I expected and said in Paragraph 2. This was never about "Women always going for the bad boys", nice guys just want an easy lay and they're mad that the assholes are fuck boys." That's a ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:18 PM
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Depends on the context. I could see a nice guy complaining that girls go for hot bad boys simply because he believes that he deserves female attention for being nice. On the other hand, girls sleeping with attractive assholes aren't really giving these guys any incentives to stop. It's supply and demand. If the bad boy has lots of option despite his behaviour he has no reason to change or treat women better because he can afford to be a asshole and still get laid. It's just how dating works. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:04 PM
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People lower their standards all the time. Which is why ugly traits get passed on. It still doesn't change the fact that their still bad traits. Also while beauty is subjective, there are simply some features that are more appealing than others and this can be proven by data. Finally, if it's because of the media than why do babies respond to attractive people positively?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:08 PM
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Genetics aren't that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 03:51 PM
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It's biological, we seek attractive mates because it's are animalistic nature. Plus, some traits are more attractive than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 03:45 PM
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End the friendship. Makes it much easier to take the blown and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 08:04 AM
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At the end of the day, if your attractive you can make anything work. Whether your manly or a pretty boy it's fine as long as your hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 12:55 PM
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Some guys have to simp and spend money on attractive women in order for them to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 07:52 AM
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1) How about if I'm not interested in a relationship and I'm just looking for sex? 2) A women can still call you manipulative, since they can't tell whether you slowly developed feelings or just wanted a romantic relationship from the start. 3) Asking a friend out can ruin the friendship in some cases. 4) What do I do if I found a women attractive? I can't start a friendship because that would be tricking her but I can't ask her out either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 10:46 AM
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But knowing a women platonically first and then asking her out is seen as manipulative by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:07 AM
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It was more likely because they were basketball players.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 03:47 PM
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I'll say it's both. Men have have harder time getting their sexual needs meet and they often don't have strong support groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:18 AM
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Thats only half the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:04 AM
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The idea that you can attract women with money is an myth, unless your an millionaire or billionaire. And even then you will only attract golddiggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:10 AM
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Interesting, I heard from the women on reddit that you shouldn't talk about an woman's body when hitting on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:32 AM
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SOME people have friends from college not many, the nature of friendship means that an lot of people you once knew will eventually leave you. I barely remember the friends I had from secondary school or even university, sometimes romantic relationship tend last longer than friendship with have examples of marriages that lasted for 20 years or more, in some situations where friends abounded you someone SO stayed with them. Friendship can be just as fleeting as friendship. Not to mention friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 07:17 AM
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Friends are definitely not forever, in fact an lot of friendships grow apart as you age. That's an major part of growing older.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 05:12 AM
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But how did these players meet girls that were willing to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:02 AM
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Why is it bad that an guy is only looking for sex. Not everyone wants an relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/21 07:07 AM
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You can make friends while still cutting the people who aren't attracted to you out of your life, while getting the same benifits. Good for you for staying, but if I want an relationship I'm not gonna be happy with an friendship plus cutting the friendship makes it easier to move on anyway. I simply work on making new friends. So, staying friends when rejected is an skill I have no interest in learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 05:22 PM
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An link?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 02:14 PM
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