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So what separates a need from a want? Is it a difference of kind or degree? Or is there no difference? I need food. Is it also true that I need pasta? If no, why? Could sex be satisfying a need for emotional closeness and validation that could be satisfied less enjoyable with things besides sex? Similar to how flavorless porridge might satisfy my need for food as well as pasta but illicit less enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:51 AM
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I'm a sexually unsuccessful man, and I don't do any of this. But my job title is scientist, so make of that what you will. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:45 AM
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I've read a lot of history. We've been paying taxes to maintain public order for thousands of years. What history of humanity are you talking about? Hunter gatherers? You want to return to monke? Monke doesn't have home to defend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:02 PM
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Do people not also need love as adults? Does it stop being a need as soon as you turn 18, or when your parents both die? If adults have this need, who is responsible for meeting it? And aren't you conflating love and care? A parent can't choose whether or not to love their child. No one chooses what they feel. How can someone be ethically responsible for something they didn't choose? But a parent can choose to take care of a child even without loving them. Isn't that meeting all of their ethical…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:56 PM
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I'm not saying it is a need, but the logic here is backward. 'I don't like the implications of the claim, therefore the claim is wrong.' 'I think taxes are unfair, therefore housing and food aren't needs.' It's bad logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:46 PM
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But that’s not what people are advocating. What people? Where are the people saying we need a brothel in every 7-Eleven? Your case is a counterpoint to no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:02 PM
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I find it noteworthy that both of your examples are monetary. That presupposes that our economic system is a good metric of what's valuable. But I'm sure you can think of valuable things no one will pay you a dime for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:26 AM
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Yeah, guys do orbit, and if she had a single, straight, male friend, I'd put it at a good likelihood that he was orbiting. But I don't care what he's doing. I care whether I can trust her, and if I don't trust her then what's the point of being with her exactly 🤔? If I do trust her, I don't need to micromanage her friend group. I want to communicate boundaries, but I also want to have healthy boundaries.That's why my ask isn't "shut yourself off from half the world," it's "be transparent about w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 08:57 PM
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Bro, if I need to act like a woman's parent, it ain't even worth having her number. I'd rather be single than parent an adult ass woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:18 PM
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Yes. I knew infidelity happened. That's not news. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:39 PM
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Lol. I'm not going to police who's in a partner's friend group. I'd be outraged if they tried to police who was in mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:13 PM
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It cannot be one without the other. If the standards have risen, you can blame society for raising the standards and men for not rising with them. The meaning is the same: men aren't meeting society's standards. Everyone is to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:27 PM
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I recommend referring to Peter Zeihan. He's a geopolitical forecaster that, annoyingly, only has a hammer, but it's a hammer uniquely fit for your question. Populations will decrease, in some places faster than others. This can be ameliorated by immigration, but there will be some unavoidable economic pain and restructuring for everyone. The US maybe least of all, as our population decline will be much smoother than -- say -- Germany's or China's based simply on the people who have already been …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:16 AM
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The average woman is 5'4 and 170lbs. I just came back from a BMI chart. You mean to tell me the average woman is overweight and borderline obese? That's a problem. I'll stay single, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:33 PM
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Ain't my fight. Not taking any pills. the main poor stands. That's not English syntax. And in closing. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:51 PM
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What. The. Fuck. Are you talking about? I'm making a narrow observation that the hypothetical the OP offhandedly mentioned has a specific flaw. I didn't say anything about whether Tinder is or isn't useless. I didn't say anything about how picky women are or aren't. You need to take your baggage. Put it back onto the bus. Keep moving. I'm not going to have someone else's argument with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:41 AM
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That is the narrative, but here the OP said "even if women literally had no standards ..." He presented a hypothetical, and his conclusion doesn't pan out in his hypothetical. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:20 AM
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No, but the statement I was responding to was incorrect. More than 25% of men would get dates unless we assume that the women are only matching with a small minority of the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:49 AM
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if women literally had no standards only %25 of men could actually get matches or dates/sex from it That would only be true if women dated exactly one man at a time and never broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:32 PM
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Is there anything she could have done to help you? She could have expressed her interest, if she had any. If I don't think I have a chance with someone, I'm not going to waste our time. Would you have liked her less if she tried to nudge you? Of course not. Why would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:25 AM
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I've frequently not made a move for girls I was totally smitten with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:51 AM
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I don't remember people for their height unless they're literally midgets, but I also live in south Texas, and 5'2 wouldn't stand out by much. The point is, numerically, 1/250 isn't a very small number, because you probably pass by at least 250 people everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:15 PM
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Is 0.4% really that small? That's one in 250 people. You can find someone like that if you do a lap through a WalMart.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:58 PM
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Can attest to this. Lost 155 pounds. Look fine in a t-shirt. No women are materializing around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:50 PM
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I treat men and women exactly alike, which is to say, I don't really talk with any of them. 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:47 PM
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Obviously, you're not comfortable with the situation, and you're about sick of it. So what do you do? Tell her she can't keep doing girls' nights? That would be controlling, right? Is that okay? Why or why not? What are the alternatives? Tell her how you feel. If she doesn't make an adjustment, leave. If your partner is doing something you can't tolerate and won't voluntarily change that behavior, you don't need to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:00 PM
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No one said anything about yelling or assaulting him. We're talking about being unreceptive. We're talking about giving one word replies and walking away. That's not treating anyone badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:07 PM
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This is the problem. Your country has 1/10 the crime rate of the US. Some people commenting here are probably living in cities that have 20x or 30x the crime rate of where you live. Your priors are different, because you're in a different environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:31 PM
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Completely different situation - those are people you know in familiar surroundings so I have no problem interacting with them. You don't really know them, so I'd rather they stay away as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 03:19 PM
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IVF has existed since the 70s and let's you do exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 03:35 PM
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And how, wise man, would you recommend I do that?
/r/seduction16/03/22 09:31 PM
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I hear you, but I think that's being too generous. "Women like sex," is a serviceable generalization, but OP adds, "All of them." If that's not overreaching, I don't know what would be.
/r/seduction16/03/22 08:12 PM
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Being persistent and trying again a few minutes later is, you guessed it, attractive. I did not, in fact, guess it. Normally, when I tell someone not to do something, I don't want to see them try again in 5 minutes.
/r/seduction16/03/22 05:42 PM
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"Just do what feels natural, bro" isn't a guide. What's instinctive for you isn't instinctive for everyone. If I did what felt natural, escalation would come in a few months. Women love sex. All of them. I am literally dating an asexual woman. You are wrong.
/r/seduction16/03/22 03:23 PM
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... most women have an average of 7 sexual partners in their lifetime. ...Does that sound like a small number to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 03:11 AM
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Any guy on the planet would be floored to receive the nudes of any moderately attractive female stranger. Speak for yourself. If I want to see a naked woman, I'll go to Google. I don't want unsolicited shit sent to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 06:39 PM
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If I thought I was settled for, why would I stay in the relationship? I told him if I knew his personality then sure but I wouldn’t have gone for him for him off the bat. He then says that if I saw his profile on Tinder I would have swiped left and not thought about it. If I were him, I'd be seriously considering leaving the relationship after hearing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:31 AM
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If you can't open up to a woman, what's the point of being with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:35 AM
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I'm almost too old at this point, and I have other things to do. That's beside the point. The point is, you're wrong about what it takes to succeed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:27 AM
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Ahem. Votes for Libertarian Party presidential candidates over time. Increasing Libertarian Party Registration in NJ. On the ballot in all states. Third largest party as of 2020. Not sure they're dying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 12:20 AM
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. . . apparently none of you guys wanna put in any effort at all. I did the things. I lost the weight. I got the degree. I expanded my social circle. I did the sports and the martial arts, the hiking, the traveling, the social hobbies. I didn't get sucked into the pathologic online subcultures. According to your model, I should be able to get at least couple dates every decade. Your model doesn't explain me, so it probably doesn't explain a lot of loveless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:54 PM
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I never see men bitch about going to the gym Let me be your first. I hate working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 10:06 PM
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And there it is. Muscles and good skin. Even you asked for muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:19 PM
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It's not a muscular shape. Doesn't have broad shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:08 AM
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I have the body of an otter and my skin has more bumps and holes than the lunar surface, and I've got gay men trying to pick me up every other month.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:05 AM
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Complications: Generational differences. Inter-generational advice may not be the same as intra-generational advice. Your boomer parents may not know what's hip with the kids. Familial context. The advice you may be willing to give to a complete stranger may not be the same advice you're willing to give to your child. Prevalence of advice. Are mothers even giving any dating advice to their sons? How often does that happen? I was raised by a single mother, and she never once gave me a word of dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:19 AM
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I don't know. I'm most attracted to women who have a genuine look, who don't put on make up and show up with bedhead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:22 PM
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It actually matters whether it's a proxy for what they care about or what they actually care about. If it's just a proxy, you can signal that you don't have the qualities she's actually trying to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:33 AM
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On average, 0.03 per year.
/r/seduction27/12/21 04:11 AM
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Thank god for deepfakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:27 AM
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Unless someone sees your butthole. Then your skills will be meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:22 AM
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Your kids won't be able to get jobs either? Damn. Sounds bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:20 AM
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I'd be more worried ... every pervert in the IT department has jacked off to pics of my asshole and leers at me You'd be more worried about being leered at than not being able support yourself? Weird priorities, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:15 AM
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I'll accept this as a substitute for a dentist. Judging by her Facebook, it looks like shes been working for the last year at a custom shop and married a technician there, so I'd say she's doing fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 09:10 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:55 AM
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Can you point to any dentists losing their jobs over an OnlyFans account?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:51 AM
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You seem to be vulnerable to a lot of black-and-white thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:49 AM
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They'll employ a technician, agent, or middle-manager with an OnlyFans though. That's the most anyone had hope of becoming in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:47 AM
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Young clerks could be going to school. I'd bet a lot of creators on OnlyFans are going to school, and it's OnlyFans that's enabling them to do so. Most OF girls could have led normal lives if they hadn’t traded their self respect for pocket change. Wages have been frozen for fifty years while the inflation adjusted cost of a college degree has tripled in that time. People are looking for other ways to improve their RoI. Gigwork. OnlyFans. It's evidence of just how unappealing "normal lives" are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:42 AM
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who wants to hire someone with an OnlyFans? It's a pretty big assumption that that will be disqualifying for all worthwhile jobs. I don't see any evidence of that. Plenty of firms just won't care, because they have more important, technical things to worry about. That said, if you're not working or going to school while you're operating your OnlyFans, you'll exit that market without any marketable skills. If I were a creator, I'd be more worried about that. Plenty of people are using their OnlyF…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:28 AM
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Yes.
/r/seduction09/11/21 06:08 PM
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Not in and of itself, but population decline could break a lot of the economic assumptions our civilization is based on and upturn the lives of millions or billions of people. Insofar as mate selection contributes to that, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 04:42 PM
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Don't be afraid to let flirty humor flow out. Let it? Like I'm holding that tsunami back with dikes and flood barriers? Just let it flow he says.
/r/seduction09/11/21 01:46 AM
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You did say they'd be coming to your door.
/r/seduction23/10/21 02:14 PM
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This sounds like one of those occasions where two separate people made unrelated arguments, but because they share a demographic, you conflate them, giving the appearance of self-contradiction when in reality, different women think different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 06:45 AM
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Is there any dating app for which that isn't true? I think that's a feature of the entire market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:43 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:41 PM
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I understand you can have the experience of only running into people who are blackpilled, but what you experience doesn't tell you what's representative. The forums you go to are appealing to and accessible by fractions of narrow demographics, and your own circle has you up to your ears in selection biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 03:50 AM
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I like how people online think their niche communities are representative of a silent majority, of larger trends and forces that will shape the future. When the currently blackpilled generation There is no "blackpilled generation." While a relative handful of these people concentrate in highly visible pockets, the other 99.9% of the generation is too busy living their lives to be distracted by nihilistic social theories on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:36 AM
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Men have to worry about all the things you mention, but dissecting how those risks are similar to and differ from those faced by women in type, prevalence, and severity, is something I'm not going to achieve to everyone's satisfaction in a generalizing metaphor about pizza. The important point is that both parties face severe problems, whereas OP seems to believe the only risk women face are opportunity costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:06 AM
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10 hours = 600 minutes 2/600=0.003 = 0.3% Now factor in about 80 percent of these were just men saying "good morning beautiful", and you've got an even more incredibly miniscule number. And even in the worst situations, nothing 'appreciably' bad happened. If something bad were to happen, she should have mace on her. It's the same reason why I think men who live in dangerous areas would be wise to be armed. Should I also point out the urban demographics of the areas she was walking through being …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:13 PM
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That's still not an answer to my question. Even if I conceded that I didn't have a reason to think it ever happened, that would just move me to not knowing how often it happened, but that's not the position you're arguing for. You're making the claim that you know it doesn't happen appreciably often. So how do you know that? I'm not familiar with the video, but it's also not evidence of anything either way. No one claims that the worst behavior manifests in public between perfect strangers in br…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:12 AM
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You didn't answer my question. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:44 AM
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Whether it's exaggerated is irrelevant. What matters is whether it happens appreciably often. What gives you the impression that it doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:26 AM
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Even believing that men have it incredibly hard in the dating market, I think this is far from a fair analogy. Scenario A doesn't capture the threats a woman faces, be it harassment, coercion, or bodily harm. A better analogy is the pizza one. Restaurants won't deliver Joe a pizza. Hes called every Pizza Hut and Dominos in town. Usually he hears, "Sorry, we don't deliver to that address," but sometimes they'll charge his card and deliver him an empty box. Hes tried talking to the managers, custo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 02:19 AM
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Knowing that, it's quite clear that swipe-based apps are insane. An app built around the idea of 30-second introductory videos might actually work to get men into relationships. The apps built by Match Group are specifically designed not to get men into relationships. But you can add videos to your Tinder profile. I don't have anything interesting to put in one, but I digress.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 03:43 PM
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men can enjoy fucking women they're not attracted to. Ew. No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:23 PM
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I knew it was going to be bad when it characterized descriptions of motive as justifications. Against my better judgement, I kept reading, but the article did not improve.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/21 09:30 PM
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Are you going for a Guinness World Record?
/r/seduction21/02/21 10:34 PM
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I lost 66kg, and nothing changed. 😐
/r/seduction26/10/20 07:12 PM
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Presumably you can seduce someone for the purpose of having a fulfilling, committed life together.
/r/seduction23/10/20 02:24 PM
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You'll just know if there's attraction or not. Oh. Ok. False alarm everybody. There wasn't any attraction.
/r/seduction29/09/20 12:49 PM
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So many girls find you attractive ... What!? Where!?
/r/seduction29/09/20 03:51 AM
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Just because many people do doesn't that it's good. Good is not the word I used. It's not the word you used. We were talking about maturity, not goodness. To be mature is to be fully developed with respect to age. To be good is something altogether unrelated. With such inattention to detail, I see why you're having trouble with signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 04:45 PM
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What exactly is the alternative you have in mind? Should romantic initiation look like, "I saw you across the parking lot. I think you are attractive, and I would like us to have a date toward the end of sex and a relationship"? Anything less forward would be sending a hint, but it's also highly intrusive, and potentially threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 04:41 PM
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No it's not. It's immature from you to hold on onto this questionable behaviour. If the vast majority of adults do it, isn't it mature by definition? What's maturity if not the thing fully developed people almost always do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 04:28 PM
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Yes. I was alluding to this when I said, "More liberal countries have driven women workforce participation higher ... by making it easier to work and have children." That's why the trend has halted first and hardest in the US, because it has run into the lack of subsidized childcare (among other things).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 02:03 PM
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Sociological trends continue until they run into something. In the US, workforce participation among women increased for fifty years, but before it reached parity with men's workforce participation, it ran into the limits of fertility. Its flattened or dropped since 2000, around the time women in generation X were running out of fertile years and had to choose between work and child rearing. More liberal countries have driven women workforce participation higher with less ambivalence about abort…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 06:52 PM
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what're they going to do...just keep pining for what they can never have or attract again for all eternity? Well ... Yeah. As a thirty-year old virgin, I can say that it's not so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 07:01 PM
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Sexless != boring
/r/seduction16/07/20 04:30 PM
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It probably won't leave you in the happiest place, but that is an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 07:01 PM
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... stop crying about it Everyone should do this. You'd be surprised how much quitting porn/ instagram/ hentai does for how you view real women though. Did it lower your attraction bar down to 1s and 2s? If not, then a 2/10 guy would still have to date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 06:55 PM
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And how is that a problem then? The problem is that having sex with someone you're not attracted to eliminates the value of sex for all parties involved. The man has no reason to engage in that sex and the women probably don't want to sleep with someone who isn't even attracted to them. Obviously the solution is either men lower their standards for looks only or become more attractive themselves The first option often gives us the above problem and the second option is not always possible (Edit:…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 08:09 AM
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I think I'd prefer the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 11:19 PM
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What should a woman have done to not contribute to fucking up modern relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 10:40 PM
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I agree up to a point, but in all pursuits, it's possible to do everything right and still fail. Life isn't fair. At some point, I'm prepared to say, "This isn't for you, and it may never be for you. So let's make sure you'll be okay with that."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 10:37 PM
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All the sexless millennial men I know have active social lives in meatspace. I bet there's more underlying this trend than the shy basement dweller stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:08 PM
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if they want to have sex they should go for women in their league. Yeah, but then you're having sex with people you're turned off by, and that kind of spoils the point, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:00 PM
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What do you say to the men who do have active social lives but still can't form sexual or romantic relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 08:56 PM
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Ironically, I don't think it attracts people by being effective at making money. I think it attracts them by being a species of cheap entertainment, and for that, it may rank highly against the alternatives. How else are you going to squeeze dopamine out of $2? Similarly, TRP may not attract people by being effective at getting dates. It may attract them by being a community of sympathetic men sharing a hobby. As that, it may rank highly against the alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 04:02 PM
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... why don't you collectively decide to create a dating environment that facilitates such outcomes from men There is no governing body of women that makes collective decisions. What the hell are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/20 02:49 PM
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it’s dangerous because it’s logical conclusion is fascism. How would you know that? Edit: At the very least, this is a less empty arrangement of words than "dangerous ideology."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 07:59 PM
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For the purpose of getting money, their alternatives are better in literally all circumstances, so what people choose cannot evidence the quality of their alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 05:38 PM
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I assume people with goals use the best tools they have available to get to those goals. People buy lottery tickets, don't they? Are lottery tickets the best tools available to those people to meet their goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 04:37 PM
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"Dangerous ideology" is the emptiest of phrases. Exactly every ideology looks dangerous from the perspective of every ideology opposed to it. If you had said, "...and sneakily indulge them in something I dislike," no information would have been lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 04:31 PM
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21. Any later and I look like I'm 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:41 PM
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remember flirting is fun! it really is. Eh. Everyone finds different things fun. It seems more like a chore to me.
/r/seduction14/06/20 05:03 PM
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Keep in mind, looks are still a confounding variable in the latter case. Guy#2 is a 5-6. He has looks, they're just not amazing. Repeat the experiment with someone who's 1-2, and report back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 05:07 PM
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No, it probably won't have any negative repercussions for you, but is that the only test you use for deciding whether you should do something?
/r/seduction20/12/19 10:07 PM
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who gives a fuck what some girl thinks. Most decent people. that's so fuckin lame and weak. Equating empathy to weakness sounds like psychopathy. Do you have a therapist? you are a man you're gonna let the opinion of a little 100lb girl dictate whether you approach her or not? that's fucking pathetic Her weight and sex have no bearing on whether you should care how she feels. You're talking about people like you only care whether they're useful or threatening to you and like any other considerat…
/r/seduction20/12/19 08:07 PM
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no one is going to give a shit. You don't think she'll give a shit whether you "creep her the fuck out"?
/r/seduction20/12/19 01:59 PM
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one that saw it. I'm creeped out just reading it, and I'm a guy.
/r/seduction20/12/19 05:12 AM
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Talking to 5 girls a week on Friday nights and not getting results? Increase that number to 10 girls Friday night and 1 girl a day during the week. Still not happy with your results? Talk to 5 girls a day every day and 20 on Friday night. "Talk to a hundred girls a day and 500 on Friday night! Talk to a thousand girls a night!! Talk to infinity girls!!! Buahaha!" ... creep her the fuck out ... Nobody will give a flying fuck other than you. I can think of at least one other person that would care…
/r/seduction19/12/19 04:33 PM
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But there are gradations you're missing. Maybe Joe gets approached at a rate of one woman per year. Maybe Scott gets approached at a rate of one woman per month. On a Boolean scale, you're missing that substantive difference. Joe and Scott are not principally or practically as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 07:00 PM
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Seems like this could all be avoided if you explained where you wanted it to go from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 05:19 PM
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So why are you bringing this up? I'm bringing it up because you asked what specifics women have given me, you dolt. You brought it up. I guess you want some victim points ... poor poor victim ... your victim narrative ... Stop being such a victim. I don't have a victim narrative, because I'm not a victim. Who the hell would be victimizing me? I'm not complaining. I'm not claiming persecution. I'm not saying anything is unfair. So where are you getting this from? You asked what people said was wr…
/r/seduction27/05/19 04:33 PM
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The next person to respond will say something like " But you only self improved to get dates! You didnt do it for your OWN sake! Women can sense that! Youre not confident! Start over!" I do feel like I've heard that one before. There's an almost dogmatic insistence that someone can't be single strictly because they're physically unattractive. It's a strange thing to be so committed to. You wouldn't expect them to care why other people can't find dates, and it'd be so easy to just admit to the va…
/r/seduction25/05/19 05:27 PM
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So. Just to clear things up: The woman who was talking about my skin was talking about my trypophobia inducing pores. She's still a friend, and we're on good terms, so I'm inclined to think she was being honest and not just reacting to me being a creep. That's part of what I can't get on board with. You seem to assume in every case that women are mistaken, lying, or equivocating, and they never intend the literal meaning of what they're saying. I couldn't disagree more. Women generally know what…
/r/seduction25/05/19 12:55 AM
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That's good news because those are skills you learn. That reply proves you have the wrong mindset when talking to women. So. In the ten years that I've been working on myself, I've by all accounts become good company. I have a wide, mixed-sex group of friends. No one doubts that I'm funny and interesting and full of stories and fun life experiences to share. In 2009, however, I had the social skillset of an autistic honey badger. These are things you can learn, and they are necessary, but they a…
/r/seduction25/05/19 12:18 AM
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Some have given specifics, yes. Skin, hair, teeth. "You look old, and not in a good way." "Your pores are giving me trypophobia." "Teeth are a deal breaker for me."
/r/seduction24/05/19 07:21 PM
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Look as good as you can? Great. Your not getting rejected because you are not attractive enough. But women tell me I'm not attractive enough. Are they lying?
/r/seduction24/05/19 06:32 PM
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If dates are really that abundant for him, why make allowances for bad luck? If he's getting like ten dates a week, he doesn't need to take the risk that those few hours really did signal disinterest.
/r/seduction14/05/19 09:03 PM
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